From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 1 18:08:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 173722584E78 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 18:08:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B716C2584866 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 18:08:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7782C01D3 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 18:08:30 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 18:08:29 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1 To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Woo hoo! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Well everything is back to normal, or as normal as it ever gets. You should now be able to send mail to Team.Net lists and have it work as before. mjb. PS: Still overpaid and underworked, but a LOT less stressed out! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 1 18:50:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF1A258455C for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 18:50:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com [17.158.236.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F18258055A for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 18:49:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.0.1.82] (67-3-96-39.desm.qwest.net [67.3.96.39]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.35.0 64bit (built Dec 4 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NPA00LZ4KZ6UP30@nk11p04mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 00:49:56 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.14.151,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-06-02_02:2015-05-29,2015-06-01,1970-01-01 signatures=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1412110000 definitions=main-1506020010 From: Steve Myers Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 19:49:53 -0500 References: <8D1FCC41C1DB50D-21F4-B1A2D@webmail-vm077.sysops.aol.com> To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] TR6 J-Type Gearbox in TR4? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm sure this has been discussed many times before but I was always looking for an A-Type not a J-Type. I know it will require different rear mounts. Today a guy dropped off a ton of TR6 parts he didn't want anymore and one was a TR6 gearbox with the J-Type overdrive. I've thought about wanting overdrive in my TR4 racecars to keep the revs down a little more at Road America but is this a good idea? My car seemed very competitive as it sits now and maybe it isn't worth the trouble, or at least not the gearbox I would want. -Steve _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 1 19:03:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B3D2584834 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 19:03:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm39-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm39-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.109]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8974C25803C9 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 19:02:57 -0600 (MDT) t=1433206977; bh=KWb7C91nuwb8Ke9RhXD1ueRXwwYqNBpdaj3uN2c4k7g=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=grvhjsBBOCg0FYlB08xOGkn6uPsN/BYbppAFFss5bkTMDKGpxK7KUekXpgaM2/8Nr796jPPprEmp3k6c72zWMhOS8C2P64ICbz9h1cDlIIg9Im6bfb5tQA9JGnLms8t3aQhRpi3J22LWb9BmNCRdGBV9860PomYAYZkuhJsH35CadPf1iFExLLeRLpy3By8BvaSxmky4ne806fBRlpklL+R/18RQJ9Nvs+7koRniCHzHFmCZu6/4CgXwNmfxFMGH+MqqFS6m6O2Nzik8vTnmHLDGFuOe8Z8tkeCFaLagbT9kUFLCAnGfEgCs9P3jDlvWRzIjNqh0EA/JhnYpZFpL2A== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm39.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2015 01:02:57 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.60] by nm39.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2015 01:00:17 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.223] by tm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2015 01:00:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1031.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2015 01:00:17 -0000 gvNJs_LZz4M1DnyAJanhmAZN4JTAVTnh8.B52zZG2UxLhqs9j1gyMLcnYaCI5fdvFole4iT1GCk1 Gt7KDPAWYP_kyK8zTwLSy_6KERenswc4WAFdr.78vIRfg7EmC7mXIZeK25qbvucS5jyEQmvdD.sx NMMoP7QX0T5ggJYM7yswJ0F1gj0x3OZrXKAi5mDTLYqTwQnI7A1vN_ZWBYeOSV3.lvrphprJGKhs 2QppJIFR8Ndio.GWREERrrooQNOEKTBjJuLuyMre_4D42qY_UStrASbR6kWy5SZ3kXTcSVSOJOQM p4dQ6yI3y22GxWT.efS.b3yq1kSYT5EQaL1vtObI0RlLJ2J_XQEj0V8HuvUTqwKV6..M78azBgXa u.RENoktsmK.2EFhZpw4FVEm.Bva_qkZFd8A3eMKTAQYGp4y2NCEHKIpn.ks0HqAR8k44aqzDin6 2llPSToMceO8P Received: by 216.39.60.193; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 01:00:16 +0000 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 00:59:57 +0000 (UTC) From: Brian Schirano To: FOT List Triumph References: <775733090.259320.1432833821919.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: [Fot] Fw: Ignition wires? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3996810909177937193== boundary="----=_Part_1569725_1488071456.1433206797920" ------=_Part_1569725_1488071456.1433206797920 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Guys Apologies on the many questions since I joined FOT, but it's an expensive sport to learn by trial and error, so much prefer to collect your opinions when I don't know the answer short hand. Thanks for your help to date, looks like I will use intake retainers across all valves but add full Roller Rocker assy from Richard Good Next question, looking for ignition wire suggestions, Cobalts from Moss or= =C2=A0 Magnecores? Or ?? I run a Pertronics distributor and an Accel Super coil,= =C2=A0No MSD. Thanks Brian 69 GT6+ #26A 73 TR6 #28 Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell=3DA0 BSchirano@yahoo.com ------=_Part_1569725_1488071456.1433206797920 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Guys
<= div id=3D"yiv4053352036">

Apologies on the many questions since I joined FOT, but i= t's an expensive
sport to learn by trial and error, so = much prefer to collect your opinions
when I don't know = the answer short hand.

Thanks for your help to date, looks like I will use = intake retainers across
all valves but add full Roller = Rocker assy from Richard Good

Next question, looking for ignition wire sugg= estions, Cobalts from Moss or 
Magnecores? Or ?? I= run a Pertronics distributor and an Accel Super coil, 
No MSD.

= Thanks
Brian


69 G= T6+ #26A
73 TR6 #28

Brian Schirano
= 585-305-0349 Cell=3DA0
BSchirano@yaho= o.com


------=_Part_1569725_1488071456.1433206797920-- --===============3996810909177937193== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3996810909177937193==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 1 21:39:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB926258508D for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 21:39:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336FB2584536; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 21:38:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5142C00BA; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 21:38:23 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 21:38:19 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1 To: Triumphs , Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] A white, solid axle 4A .... who, me? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Uh, surface rust?? http://www.ksl.com/auto/listing/2194781?ad_cid=1 Hmm.... mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 1 22:16:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2289E258048A for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 22:16:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6293F258048A for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 22:16:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([71.116.26.215]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NPA003GWUJ0CQ31@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 23:16:13 -0500 (CDT) a=IJ9pWlWUkYEA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=XAFQembCKUMA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=03UyVVEXwfofdsw_ipMA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=BzU1eOZshhwA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=-4m2nCqOGtTzPQdoYhAA:9 a=RWXnxMN11i2TBqNV:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Brian Schirano" , "FOT List Triumph" References: <775733090.259320.1432833821919.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1206015550.1569726.1433206797926.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 00:16:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Ignition wires? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============7973982681610580827== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01B1_01D09CC9.537DFE70" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01B1_01D09CC9.537DFE70 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brian, I bought a set from Jeg's, Accel, I think. 8mm, cut to your own = length. They come in a set of 8, so you can have a couple spares. Not horribly expensive and work great. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Brian Schirano=20 To: FOT List Triumph=20 Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 8:59 PM Subject: [Fot] Fw: Ignition wires? Hi Guys Apologies on the many questions since I joined FOT, but it's an = expensive sport to learn by trial and error, so much prefer to collect your = opinions when I don't know the answer short hand. Thanks for your help to date, looks like I will use intake retainers = across all valves but add full Roller Rocker assy from Richard Good Next question, looking for ignition wire suggestions, Cobalts from = Moss or=20 Magnecores? Or ?? I run a Pertronics distributor and an Accel Super = coil,=20 No MSD. Thanks Brian 69 GT6+ #26A 73 TR6 #28 Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell=3DA0 BSchirano@yahoo.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net ------=_NextPart_000_01B1_01D09CC9.537DFE70 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Brian, I bought a set from Jeg's, = Accel, I think.=20 8mm, cut to your own length. They come in a set of 8, so you can have a = couple=20 spares.
Not horribly expensive and work = great.
Cheers, Bill
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Brian=20 Schirano
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 = 8:59 PM
Subject: [Fot] Fw: Ignition = wires?


Hi Guys
Apologies=20 on the many questions since I joined FOT, but it's an = expensivesport to=20 learn by trial and error, so much prefer to collect your = opinionswhen I=20 don't know the answer short hand.Thanks for=20 your help to date, looks like I will use intake retainers = acrossall valves=20 but add full Roller Rocker assy from Richard GoodNext=20 question, looking for ignition wire suggestions, Cobalts from Moss=20 or Magnecores? Or ?? I run a Pertronics distributor = and an=20 Accel Super coil, 
No=20 MSD.ThanksBrian69 GT6+=20 #26A73 TR6=20 #28Brian=20 Schirano585-305-0349 Cell=3DA0BSchirano@yahoo.com


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------=_NextPart_000_01B1_01D09CC9.537DFE70-- --===============7973982681610580827== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============7973982681610580827==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 01:46:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711A62584549 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 01:46:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from andre.telenet-ops.be (andre.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F8E525805CF for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 01:46:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([IPv6:2a02:1812:d1c:7a00:1955:131c:9d3d:dce1]) by andre.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id bKmH1q00X4B2rjG01KmNqH; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 09:46:22 +0200 From: "Marcel Van Mulders" To: "'Steve Myers'" References: <8D1FCC41C1DB50D-21F4-B1A2D@webmail-vm077.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 09:46:13 +0200 Thread-Index: AdCczhcwyImyPojbSkadhTZvW0fTOwAOTipg Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 J-Type Gearbox in TR4? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Steve, With an A-type or J-type overdrive gearbox, you can mount a 1:4.33 or better still, a 1:4.55 rear axle : acceleration is much improved and on most circuits, the overdrive has to be engaged 1x or 2x a lap. It really shows in laptimes. Marcel -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Steve Myers Verzonden: dinsdag 2 juni 2015 2:50 Aan: Friends of Triumph Onderwerp: [Fot] TR6 J-Type Gearbox in TR4? I'm sure this has been discussed many times before but I was always looking for an A-Type not a J-Type. I know it will require different rear mounts. Today a guy dropped off a ton of TR6 parts he didn't want anymore and one was a TR6 gearbox with the J-Type overdrive. I've thought about wanting overdrive in my TR4 racecars to keep the revs down a little more at Road America but is this a good idea? My car seemed very competitive as it sits now and maybe it isn't worth the trouble, or at least not the gearbox I would want. -Steve _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 06:16:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68A5125849A3 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 06:16:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p14im-asmtp001.me.com (nk11p14im-asmtp001.me.com [17.158.72.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D484725847A5 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 06:12:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (pool-108-16-127-157.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [108.16.127.157]) by nk11p14im-asmtp001.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.35.0 64bit (built Dec 4 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NPB0086NGL38D50@nk11p14im-asmtp001.me.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 12:12:40 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.14.151,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-06-02_11:2015-06-02,2015-06-02,1970-01-01 signatures=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1412110000 definitions=main-1506020163 From: Scott Janzen Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 08:12:38 -0400 References: <775733090.259320.1432833821919.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1206015550.1569726.1433206797926.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> To: Brian Schirano Cc: FOT List Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Ignition wires? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2399015873026204638== boundary=Apple-Mail-E4EB7542-22E4-48A9-AF4D-3EABC94E64B9 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-E4EB7542-22E4-48A9-AF4D-3EABC94E64B9 charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I run magnacor 8 mm blue wires with my Mallory with a unilite optical trigge= r. Trouble free for years. $82 for the set from magnacor. Sent from my mobile device=20 On Jun 1, 2015, at 8:59 PM, Brian Schirano wrote: Hi Guys Apologies on the many questions since I joined FOT, but it's an expensive sport to learn by trial and error, so much prefer to collect your opinions when I don't know the answer short hand. Thanks for your help to date, looks like I will use intake retainers across all valves but add full Roller Rocker assy from Richard Good Next question, looking for ignition wire suggestions, Cobalts from Moss or=20= Magnecores? Or ?? I run a Pertronics distributor and an Accel Super coil,=20= No MSD. Thanks Brian 69 GT6+ #26A 73 TR6 #28 Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell=3DA0 BSchirano@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --Apple-Mail-E4EB7542-22E4-48A9-AF4D-3EABC94E64B9 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I run magnacor 8 mm blue wires with my= Mallory with a unilite optical trigger. Trouble free for years.  $82 f= or the set from magnacor.

Sent from my mobile device 
=
On Jun 1, 2015, at 8:59 PM, Brian Schirano <bschirano@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hi Guys

Apologies on the many questio= ns since I joined FOT, but it's an expensive
sport to learn b= y trial and error, so much prefer to collect your opinions
wh= en I don't know the answer short hand.

Thanks for your help to date, looks like I w= ill use intake retainers across
all valves but add full Rolle= r Rocker assy from Richard Good

Next question, looking for ignition wire suggestion= s, Cobalts from Moss or 
Magnecores? Or ?? I run a Pertr= onics distributor and an Accel Super coil, 
No MSD.

Thanks
Brian


69 GT6+ #26A
73 TR6 #28<= /span>

Brian Sc= hirano
585-305-0349 Cell=3DA0
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= = --Apple-Mail-E4EB7542-22E4-48A9-AF4D-3EABC94E64B9-- --===============2399015873026204638== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2399015873026204638==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 06:18:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C1E25849B1 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 06:18:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.168]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA0A25846AA for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 06:18:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-20v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.244]) by resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id bQJp1q0025Geu2801QJpoX; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 12:18:49 +0000 Received: from locutus ([50.170.163.20]) by resomta-po-20v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id bQJo1q00Y0Sj6Ay01QJoiN; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 12:18:49 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: "'Bill Tobin'" , "'Brian Schirano'" , "'FOT List Triumph'" Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 06:21:24 -0600 Thread-Index: AdCc6wPfBochNmEPSsq0Ifq7EjF0ZAAQx6Ig s=q20140121; t=1433247529; bh=LChCdr34qSdaLUuKcI1Ri6RGCkO0iFpvDVyz4/wMyrk=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tAs3xYBqEyi+cg8f5n15Z8O8oYj+ENiedhsULMWxLaARwACkvGVmRtVS55pmd3cEv WKPlOpBLcPDU/7LuicdTgrZT5lyBu2HXD8OD+5YdQq7QiP/0T5hFh4fProvOmFnerb HbE2EcUWB0cfPlh8Qs4rIniwlywNujgeih8WbgDAnZLBwQEXMe1J5UMfBygUvBdKR9 ERJDPSkQ47bibBmhXEY9iwftHVdR4DVcGBW/7k5HgEUCEmHRKtCCTZHyuKkZuUg98D L2s4ezBqIx9aYaPRxXHi5HWgpAg2Iri5Zky3mPzp9dmOKInQZT01HLJUtleJRcdMNi 1Wv0UsWE0Hi5A== Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Ignition wires? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0559237080919726036== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01D09CFC.5A4C0ED0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01D09CFC.5A4C0ED0 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I went with the accel wires too because I could buy a generic V8 kit locally but also learned I needed accel the crimping tool to get reliable end connections. jim g _____ From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Tobin Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 10:16 PM To: Brian Schirano; FOT List Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Ignition wires? Brian, I bought a set from Jeg's, Accel, I think. 8mm, cut to your own length. They come in a set of 8, so you can have a couple spares. Not horribly expensive and work great. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Monday, June 01, 2015 8:59 PM Subject: [Fot] Fw: Ignition wires? Hi Guys Apologies on the many questions since I joined FOT, but it's an expensive sport to learn by trial and error, so much prefer to collect your opinions when I don't know the answer short hand. Thanks for your help to date, looks like I will use intake retainers across all valves but add full Roller Rocker assy from Richard Good Next question, looking for ignition wire suggestions, Cobalts from Moss or Magnecores? Or ?? I run a Pertronics distributor and an Accel Super coil, No MSD. Thanks Brian 69 GT6+ #26A 73 TR6 #28 Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell=A0 _____ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01D09CFC.5A4C0ED0 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I went with the accel wires too = because I could buy a generic V8 kit locally but also learned I needed accel the = crimping tool to get reliable end

connections. =

jim g

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Tobin
Sent: Monday, June 01, = 2015 10:16 PM
To: Brian Schirano; FOT List Triumph
Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: = Ignition wires?

 

Brian, I bought a set from Jeg's, Accel, I think. = 8mm, cut to your own length. They come in a set of 8, so you can have a couple = spares.

Not horribly expensive and work = great.

Cheers, Bill

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Subject: [Fot] = Fw: Ignition wires?

 

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Apologies on the = many questions since I joined FOT, but it's an expensive
sport to learn by = trial and error, so much prefer to collect your opinions
when I don't know = the answer short hand.

Thanks for your help = to date, looks like I will use intake retainers across
all valves but add = full Roller Rocker assy from Richard Good

Next question, = looking for ignition wire suggestions, Cobalts from Moss or 
Magnecores? Or ?? I = run a Pertronics distributor and an Accel Super = coil, 

No MSD.

Thanks<= br> Brian


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------=_NextPart_000_0006_01D09CFC.5A4C0ED0-- --===============0559237080919726036== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0559237080919726036==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 06:30:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60052584A1F for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 06:30:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE342584897 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 06:26:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.229]) by resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id bQRz1q0054xDoy801QSK7f; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 12:26:19 +0000 Received: from locutus ([50.170.163.20]) by resomta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id bQSJ1q00Z0Sj6Ay01QSKwd; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 12:26:19 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: "'Marcel Van Mulders'" , "'Steve Myers'" Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 06:28:56 -0600 Thread-Index: AdCczhcwyImyPojbSkadhTZvW0fTOwAOTipgAAnfqCA= s=q20140121; t=1433247979; bh=3D+WLV4+LbxF+9n8HT8/YZ+5F35dD/Bwnq1+cBMi6IY=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=g4tWQ/Kzxla45/zs4vWwBI+KxfbgH8eZrnPvmuQvYXXWLOSMYe9WP4o6zYsp32DG4 NL2YWFkOV1BQId118IxAboIe5tEKjreh8UQjCGImarXG04MpQ1X4rJER9WKQSFe8f3 hkiIbQU8W4bIJx5G2rr7yxhgt/NIsCNDcXRJXRd4nP8fuCJMjB2MlfTty6QID0Wsrw srZDX5L4plH/p/nRktiukKVhx9Sc5doSQBrdmCEc4kyFLUyKtt1Otx+PKjYskF5DVl PWAQzW/WLWdIOxxUHGHa+O8gyh1ExYTiBOk9cSlo3w4vLtm7jtaXn13B/92+ltq3PL rXgRT85UEG/vA== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 J-Type Gearbox in TR4? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I agree with Marcel. I have a J type with 4:10's and it really gives you a lot of choices. I like the J type because I can access most of the important bits from below, filters & such. One thing I learned at The Kastner Cup at Road America is shield the solenoid wire. Mine became disconnected in the Cup race from a piece of road debris so I ran the entire race with no OD. jim g -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Marcel Van Mulders Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 1:46 AM To: 'Steve Myers' Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR6 J-Type Gearbox in TR4? Steve, With an A-type or J-type overdrive gearbox, you can mount a 1:4.33 or better still, a 1:4.55 rear axle : acceleration is much improved and on most circuits, the overdrive has to be engaged 1x or 2x a lap. It really shows in laptimes. Marcel -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Steve Myers Verzonden: dinsdag 2 juni 2015 2:50 Aan: Friends of Triumph Onderwerp: [Fot] TR6 J-Type Gearbox in TR4? I'm sure this has been discussed many times before but I was always looking for an A-Type not a J-Type. I know it will require different rear mounts. Today a guy dropped off a ton of TR6 parts he didn't want anymore and one was a TR6 gearbox with the J-Type overdrive. I've thought about wanting overdrive in my TR4 racecars to keep the revs down a little more at Road America but is this a good idea? My car seemed very competitive as it sits now and maybe it isn't worth the trouble, or at least not the gearbox I would want. -Steve _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 06:31:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF772584B2E for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 06:31:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1292584897 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 06:28:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t52CSaM1023362; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 08:28:36 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 08:28:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Jim Gray References: <20150602121916.A9A312584AA9@autox.team.net> Cc: 'FOT List Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Ignition wires? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jim brings up a good point - whether you buy Accel or MSD or whatever, it's best if you find a race buddie or two that use the same setup you have. That way when you need to fab a wire late at night at the track you can find the proper crimping die (or have it in your bag of tricks) I leave all the leftover stuff in a box in my truck so it's always there. Regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 07:08:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21A32584E17 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 07:08:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF5F2580873 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 07:07:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aao02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aao02.mx.aol.com [172.27.21.16]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B637870000087; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 09:07:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mla04h.mail.aol.com (core-mla04.mail.aol.com [172.27.37.4]) by mtaomg-aao02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8069538000085; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 09:07:50 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 09:07:50 -0400 To: mark@bradakis.com, fot@Autox.Team.Net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1433250470; bh=upLXyGb7yOMSYfzlBcKZT5M7+sMTBWHijiirIBNcP50=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MTbHEzwIY5OHQLw8Icat7PY1Kfi9g027mZhDM18xxtn5iTz+351/BBGrYQDNkXOJ8 UH4TiW3zYsWk0M3zOwnny13EW0DEvJJtO5tW2I8ro5IB02qCDc+FkwxPHu+8xegK1D 7zpMw5gw/oOX7lQqFS8jKB5YnFg2bBYGG5i2aSyc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b1510556daaa640ef Subject: Re: [Fot] Woo hoo! Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1707824108225810399== --part1_133f79.29c9fb70.429f04a6_boundary Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 06/02/2015 1:00:31 AM Central Daylight Time, mark@bradakis.com writes: > PS: Still overpaid and underworked, but a LOT less stressed out! > And loved by all...loved by all. Bill Dentinger --part1_133f79.29c9fb70.429f04a6_boundary Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message= dated 06/02/2015 1:00:31 AM Central Daylight Time, mark@bradakis.com writ= es:


PS: Still overpaid and unde= rworked, but a LOT less stressed out!

And loved by all...loved by all.

Bill Dentinger

 --part1_133f79.29c9fb70.429f04a6_boundary-- --===============1707824108225810399== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1707824108225810399==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 07:48:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A42B52585024 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 07:48:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p14im-asmtp001.me.com (nk11p14im-asmtp001.me.com [17.158.72.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C9A25845FF for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 07:48:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.99.30] (c-68-80-11-16.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [68.80.11.16]) by nk11p14im-asmtp001.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.35.0 64bit (built Dec 4 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NPB00IUBKZDKV00@nk11p14im-asmtp001.me.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 13:47:39 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.14.151,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-06-02_12:2015-06-02,2015-06-02,1970-01-01 signatures=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1412110000 definitions=main-1506020185 From: Scott Janzen Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 09:47:35 -0400 References: <20150602121916.A9A312584AA9@autox.team.net> To: "Robert M. Lang" Cc: 'FOT List Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Ignition wires? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8671487081575040714== boundary="Apple-Mail=_1578A369-F6EE-449D-84D9-4BA6EFDC68FC" --Apple-Mail=_1578A369-F6EE-449D-84D9-4BA6EFDC68FC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=us-ascii I carry a spare set of wires, plugs, cap, rotor, unilite, coil, rotor, = hmm, guess I'm missing a spare distributor! On Jun 2, 2015, at 8:28 AM, Robert M. Lang wrote: Jim brings up a good point - whether you buy Accel or MSD or whatever, = it's best if you find a race buddie or two that use the same setup you = have. That way when you need to fab a wire late at night at the track = you can find the proper crimping die (or have it in your bag of tricks) I leave all the leftover stuff in a box in my truck so it's always = there. Regards, rml = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= - Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 = --------------------------------------------------------------------------= - _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com --Apple-Mail=_1578A369-F6EE-449D-84D9-4BA6EFDC68FC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=us-ascii I = carry a spare set of wires, plugs, cap, rotor, unilite, coil, rotor, = hmm, guess I'm missing a spare distributor!

On Jun 2, = 2015, at 8:28 AM, Robert M. Lang wrote:



Jim brings up a good = point - whether you buy Accel or MSD or whatever, it's best if you find = a race buddie or two that use the same setup you have. That way when you = need to fab a wire late at night at the track you can find the proper = crimping die (or have it in your bag of tricks)

I leave all the = leftover stuff in a box in my truck so it's always = there.

Regards,
rml
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= --Apple-Mail=_1578A369-F6EE-449D-84D9-4BA6EFDC68FC-- --===============8671487081575040714== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8671487081575040714==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 09:01:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E1A25851C9 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 09:01:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7854325844ED for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 08:57:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([71.116.26.215]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NPB005PWO7EAN20@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 09:57:15 -0500 (CDT) a=IJ9pWlWUkYEA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=XAFQembCKUMA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=HHGDD-5mAAAA:8 a=F3Idto8y5kN9Qz-TILAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=noQjv9YW-iYA:10 a=KTDso90Uc2QA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=PwXdmIL_qsaVACYZuaUA:9 a=nIuqO5CvfqXwLsJe:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Scott Janzen" , "Robert M. Lang" References: <20150602121916.A9A312584AA9@autox.team.net> Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 10:57:11 -0400 Cc: 'FOT List Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Ignition wires? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============3265315355915288598== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0211_01D09D22.E0AB0E60" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0211_01D09D22.E0AB0E60 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I carry one of those too! Bob brings up a good point: keep the excess/spare stuff with you; you = may be able to help out a friend. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Scott Janzen=20 To: Robert M. Lang=20 Cc: 'FOT List Triumph'=20 Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Ignition wires? I carry a spare set of wires, plugs, cap, rotor, unilite, coil, rotor, = hmm, guess I'm missing a spare distributor! On Jun 2, 2015, at 8:28 AM, Robert M. Lang wrote: Jim brings up a good point - whether you buy Accel or MSD or whatever, = it's best if you find a race buddie or two that use the same setup you = have. That way when you need to fab a wire late at night at the track = you can find the proper crimping die (or have it in your bag of tricks) I leave all the leftover stuff in a box in my truck so it's always = there. Regards, rml = -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 = -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net ------=_NextPart_000_0211_01D09D22.E0AB0E60 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I carry one of those too!
Bob brings up a good point: keep the = excess/spare=20 stuff with you; you may be able to help out a friend.
Cheers, Bill
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Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Ignition = wires?

I carry a spare set of wires, plugs, cap, rotor, = unilite, coil,=20 rotor, hmm, guess I'm missing a spare distributor!

On Jun 2, 2015, at 8:28 AM, Robert M. Lang wrote:


Jim brings up a good point - whether you buy Accel or MSD = or=20 whatever, it's best if you find a race buddie or two that use the same = setup=20 you have. That way when you need to fab a wire late at night at the = track you=20 can find the proper crimping die (or have it in your bag of = tricks)

I=20 leave all the leftover stuff in a box in my truck so it's always=20 = there.

Regards,
rml
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------=_NextPart_000_0211_01D09D22.E0AB0E60-- --===============3265315355915288598== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3265315355915288598==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 09:06:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 423AE2585225 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 09:06:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2F6825844ED for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 09:05:53 -0600 (MDT) t=1433257554; bh=ASg+8Tq8Ua9QbVddY7itUmT63Hm0N7rreg/g+trRMHA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=gFJzMIgCu/k9oGHv/ent05jWXILtmRHxNNBjX5/awFWRYodsaYzsawKjMUqCm/9lKs5Mhx9ZUpyScV/Cz3O6l4/jaX9NrF6lixtHVZsFp8MCV7LPqLkfHH8Q4wK8f9AcZWy4pLE9ap1kGyxscOwARqXFhfzIUFi5br4JgDb7cct/eFClNmzJhpUOlDGS65qP9VbJaTKNjYaNYY5LT8dR8K5MbJFkBcXiZE25uIw3TyNPWqK1i6WTV7klfKhjfggqRh7DFPcdphsusNGo+lwRG+0ZDaRCKJkZgyWMlyLlRdIq3atCEd6YRzv/VJ/K5EjPrX/X+kyfDYCLi+SnahFFIg== Received: from [98.137.12.59] by nm23.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2015 15:05:54 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.232] by tm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2015 15:05:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1040.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2015 15:05:54 -0000 6lF3ltd4xrqMvq1SGML_IzyL9y_aGsC3HJL01r5qN0tpUdnZFyvMqzonZWNj6NYYRlZb5NTQWE22 tKpVnOp3Ke2.jMPFGALkxlr32852KVP6EP54K0.Kzqb6MtOK655qSGOLWiW.TFme0EvMq7Br6wza fmduyCF70J3oQKPGxGeZmG8Aaz.ModfWn2c8fAP8UDnlT8f2JZzCBQQOL7Of961A6.b84XGJM4rY Dbmn6rB6rf7iRpFtiR1cXOh_w4cEV16w2Bxp3Tq2NAiaspYORVJgqJLFy.TYF4l.9eZ8NrXmDph0 aoQV5xp_hp1eWNy0XflpTS_3sHRPkLPMPVZbzD0y.yf_M1GXX1esvkwF3YGuXPu0c2s1lFtjoysg DzOFBZoWgh7_VMLbIxpDIw7I4V6zSfLe6Uz8aollnME0HjtlkqVnfNBkkiV9.iQmRmabSO6U_6nj JzbQB8w-- Received: by 98.137.12.54; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 15:05:53 +0000 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:05:53 +0000 (UTC) From: Brian Schirano To: Bill Tobin , Scott Janzen , "Robert M. Lang" References: <548F06D3875245609AF41F1785EF7616@hpd530> Cc: 'FOT List Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Ignition wires? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1970917735286263929== boundary="----=_Part_1778897_1767096426.1433257553139" ------=_Part_1778897_1767096426.1433257553139 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yup, carry the old wires, 3 heat ranges of plugs, extra cap n rotor, used t= o have the old points and condenser and gave them away last year at an even= t to someone. I don't take my spare transmission or diff with me, I need to= build a couple of crates I suppose=C2=A026A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell=C2=A0 BSchirano@yahoo.com From: Bill Tobin To: Scott Janzen ; Robert M. Lang =20 Cc: 'FOT List Triumph' =20 Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 10:57 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Ignition wires? =20 I carry one of those too!Bob brings up a good point: keep the excess/spare= stuff with you; you may be able to help out a friend.Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Scott Janzen To: Robert M. Lang Cc: = 'FOT List Triumph' Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Fot]= Fw: Ignition wires?=20 I carry a spare set of wires, plugs, cap, rotor, unilite, coil, rotor, hmm,= guess I'm missing a spare distributor!=20 On Jun 2, 2015, at 8:28 AM, Robert M. Lang wrote: =20 Jim brings up a good point - whether you buy Accel or MSD or whatever, it's= best if you find a race buddie or two that use the same setup you have. Th= at way when you need to fab a wire late at night at the track you can find = the proper crimping die (or have it in your bag of tricks) I leave all the leftover stuff in a box in my truck so it's always there. Regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0Triumph TR6!! =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0| =C2=A0This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0| Voice:617-253-7438 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0| =C2=A0Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive m _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 31@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive oo.com ------=_Part_1778897_1767096426.1433257553139 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yup, carry the= old wires, 3 heat ranges of plugs, extra cap n rotor, used to have the old= points and condenser and gave them away last year at an event to someone. = I don't take my spare transmission or diff with me, I need to build a coupl= e of crates I suppose
 
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From: Bill Tobin <william.tobin31@= verizon.net>
To: Sc= ott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com>; Robert M. Lang <lang@isis.mit.edu>=
Cc: 'FOT List Triumph= ' <fot@autox.team.net>
Sen= t: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Ignition wires?
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I carry one of those too!<= /div>
Bob brings up a good point: keep = the excess/spare=20 stuff with you; you may be able to help out a friend.
Cheers, Bill
-= ---- Original Message -----
From:=20 Scott= Janzen
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<= b>Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 9:47=20 AM
<= b>Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Ignition=20 wires?

I carry a spare se= t of wires, plugs, cap, rotor, unilite, coil,=20 rotor, hmm, guess I'm missing a spare distributor!

On Jun 2, 2015, at 8:28 AM, = Robert M. Lang wrote:



Jim brings up a good= point - whether you buy Accel or MSD or=20 whatever, it's best if you find a race buddie or two that use the same se= tup=20 you have. That way when you need to fab a wire late at night at the track= you=20 can find the proper crimping die (or have it in your bag of tricks)
I=20 leave all the leftover stuff in a box in my truck so it's always=20 there.

Regards,
rml
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------=_Part_1778897_1767096426.1433257553139-- --===============1970917735286263929== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1970917735286263929==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 09:53:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99FA52585393 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 09:53:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC1S20.hotmail.com (blu004-omc1s20.hotmail.com [65.55.116.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39775258464A for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 09:52:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W115 ([65.55.116.7]) by BLU004-OMC1S20.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Tue, 2 Jun 2015 08:52:55 -0700 From: marty To: Bill Tobin Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 11:52:54 -0400 Importance: Normal References: <20150602121916.A9A312584AA9@autox.team.net>, , , <548F06D3875245609AF41F1785EF7616@hpd530> FILETIME=[30803BD0:01D09D4C] Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Ignition wires? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5508411777098518511== boundary="_dd169ff4-e3ba-4d1f-ab78-eddef852b081_" --_dd169ff4-e3ba-4d1f-ab78-eddef852b081_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey=2C no need to drag me into this! :) Marty From: william.tobin31@verizon.net To: sjanzen@me.com=3B lang@isis.mit.edu Date: Tue=2C 2 Jun 2015 10:57:11 -0400 CC: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Ignition wires? I carry one of those too! Bob brings up a good point: keep the excess/spare stuff with you=3B you may= be able to help out a friend. Cheers=2C Bill =20 = --_dd169ff4-e3ba-4d1f-ab78-eddef852b081_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey=2C no need to drag me into t= his! =3B :)

 =3BMarty
From: william.tobin31@verizon.net
To: sjanzen@me.com=3B lang@isis.mit.ed= u
Date: Tue=2C 2 Jun 2015 10:57:11 -0400
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I carry one of those too!
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= --_dd169ff4-e3ba-4d1f-ab78-eddef852b081_-- --===============5508411777098518511== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5508411777098518511==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 11:11:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A826258541F for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 11:11:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p02c11o141.mxlogic.net (unknown [208.65.144.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5101E258537B for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 11:01:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO p02c11o141.mxlogic.net) by p02c11o141.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.4.0-1) with ESMTP id 871ed655.2b26ddc15940.276099.00-533.803296.p02c11o141.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Tue, 02 Jun 2015 11:01:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] by p02c11o141.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.4.0-1) over TLS secured channel with SMTP id 33cdd655.0.259803.00-271.760174.p02c11o141.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Tue, 02 Jun 2015 10:39:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::dc8d:98d4:a80c:1957]) by ATLPEXCAS01.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 12:37:37 -0400 From: John Hasty To: marty Thread-Topic: [Fot] Fw: Ignition wires? Thread-Index: AQHQnURnlnGn5zrzx0+fUH+jpnPhYJ2ZoOUA///JcG4= Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:37:37 +0000 References: <20150602121916.A9A312584AA9@autox.team.net>, , , <548F06D3875245609AF41F1785EF7616@hpd530>, Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-exclaimer-md-config: cee22798-72e9-40a9-949b-68671b12e107 Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Ignition wires? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Now that George sold the 4 my ready source of parts is gone... Sent from my iPhone Hey, no need to drag me into this! :) Marty ________________________________ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 10:57:11 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Ignition wires? I carry one of those too! Bob brings up a good point: keep the excess/spare stuff with you; you may be able to help out a friend. Cheers, Bill ________________________________ _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 11:46:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35FB2585476 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 11:46:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73B65258535E for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 11:41:00 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge02 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [107.107.191.9] ([107.107.191.9:50524] helo=[10.209.226.169]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id ED/69-08286-AAAED655; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:41:00 +0000 From: Greg And Alison Blake boundary=Apple-Mail-A66002A3-E44F-4812-9F56-C9B31065FEA8 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 12:40:55 -0500 To: Amici Triumphi Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [Fot] IRS diff overheating Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --Apple-Mail-A66002A3-E44F-4812-9F56-C9B31065FEA8 charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some of yall may have followed the social Media posts provided by our teamma= tes through the weekend. We were racing the Beanitos TR6 this past weekend a= t what was to be TWS's last ever race. It was a split 16 hour endurance race= (Sat&Sun).=20 We had a strange failure on Saturday. About 6 hours in, the truck was full o= f gear oil. I had routed a diff vent line to the trunk. Upon returning to th= e garage, we discovered melted poly diff mounts. Pic below.=20 I've been scratching my head on this one. Prior to boiling the diff fluid, w= e had zero leaks in the freshly serviced diff. I had replaced all seals and f= illed with STALUBE 90WT GL4.=20 I've been racing my TR3 using this same diff fluid for 6 years (replaced eve= ry two weekends). Never a problem with my vintage race car. Of course, I've n= ever run the 3 for 6 hours straight.=20 Some of the more seasoned endurance racers asked what fluid I had in the dif= f. 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AfgqqlLSHYFzm6FHKANODjMFNssi3.zXVZh4KSuSyFm5AGz74zxE1zWM.Xv6TZo.JJlU._94uc5c Qg0jqXqZBVkrA9ra6Jy.Xc8DJicPTonbB0A7dNGIMyKxBkGqVV2NvhvfUWvbZ4aUx8kkMTQ6gopa ojtY9QHkPpWsb59fdPi0aDg8_b8ninUDD2EtRZNaao9b7sMB4zbMQbcJPgb64F7C.qP4J2WdOnMh ix01.PMrQkOG8MgaQAWzkWzR7bc0wuBqFkGUNIFk3bmHwtiXcceUW2eBmeXh76RLK7S9EpRihTVb _IYXOeJ1r1xlp.A4_imH.qGARbYRgj1N5GAeFwYiJ2WgRCylTx4DKMxp68qwGk21..kYmCJIIFDK dcYfkeSa91S4K.OFGaPAW6i7SJR3.X1jpiAk4WSRuujdkDcSAYw3XhQ5EmiEo7GHxhVcJqIBn2Au _MW291rSioD0- Received: by 98.138.105.201; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:50:50 +0000 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 17:50:50 +0000 (UTC) From: Jamie Palmer To: Greg And Alison Blake , Amici Triumphi References: Subject: Re: [Fot] IRS diff overheating Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8389936392163397522== boundary="----=_Part_3577857_1529840536.1433267450079" ------=_Part_3577857_1529840536.1433267450079 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greg, we used to have issues with the RiffRAF TR6 (ChumpCar) until we went = with Redline. =C2=A0Never looked back, no issues from that point on. =C2=A0= I also use it in the LeMons Marina without issue. Good Luck! =20 From: Greg And Alison Blake To: Amici Triumphi =20 Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 1:40 PM Subject: [Fot] IRS diff overheating =20 Some of yall may have followed the social Media posts provided by our teamm= ates through the weekend. We were racing the Beanitos TR6 this past weekend= at what was to be TWS's last ever race. It was a split 16 hour endurance r= ace (Sat&Sun).=20 We had a strange failure on Saturday. About 6 hours in, the truck was full = of gear oil. I had routed a diff vent line to the trunk. Upon returning to = the garage, we discovered melted poly diff mounts. Pic below.=20 I've been scratching my head on this one. Prior to boiling the diff fluid, = we had zero leaks in the freshly serviced diff. I had replaced all seals an= d filled with STALUBE 90WT GL4.=20 I've been racing my TR3 using this same diff fluid for 6 years (replaced ev= ery two weekends). Never a problem with my vintage race car. Of course, I'v= e never run the 3 for 6 hours straight.=20 Some of the more seasoned endurance racers asked what fluid I had in the di= ff. All suggested that mineral based fluid is not a good choice for enduran= ce events.=20 I'd love to hear opinions as to the route cause of our failure and more imp= ortantly, suggested remedies.=20 As to the results, the car was running consistently 2:1x laps with a fast l= ap of 2:10. We ended up taking the workers choice award. Had we run w/o dif= f failure and a subsequent battery failure, we could have been in the hunt = for a podium finish. Fastest lap in our group was 2:09.9 Great weekend Thanks=20 Greg _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive oo.com =20 ------=_Part_3577857_1529840536.1433267450079 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greg, we used to have issues with the RiffRAF TR6 = (ChumpCar) until we went with Redline.  Never looked back, no issues f= rom that point on.  I also use it in the LeMons Marina without issue.<= /span>

Good Luck!
<= br>
From: Greg And Alison Blake <ablake2@austin.rr.com>
= To: Amici Triumphi <fot= @autox.team.net>
Sent:= Tuesday, June 2, 2015 1:40 PM

Some o= f yall may have followed the social Media posts provided by our teammates t= hrough the weekend. We were racing the Beanitos TR6 this past weekend at wh= at was to be TWS's last ever race. It was a split 16 hour endurance race (S= at&Sun).

We had a strange failure on Saturday. About 6 hours in= , the truck was full of gear oil. I had routed a diff vent line to the trun= k. Upon returning to the garage, we discovered melted poly diff mounts. Pic= below.

I've been scratching my head on this one. Prior to boiling = the diff fluid, we had zero leaks in the freshly serviced diff. I had repla= ced all seals and filled with STALUBE 90WT GL4.

I've been racing my= TR3 using this same diff fluid for 6 years (replaced every two weekends). = Never a problem with my vintage race car. Of course, I've never run the 3 f= or 6 hours straight.

Some of the more seasoned endurance racers ask= ed what fluid I had in the diff. All suggested that mineral based fluid is = not a good choice for endurance events.

I'd love to hear opinions a= s to the route cause of our failure and more importantly, suggested remedie= s.

As to the results, the car was running consistently 2:1x laps wi= th a fast lap of 2:10. We ended up taking the workers choice award. Had we = run w/o diff failure and a subsequent battery failure, we could have been i= n the hunt for a podium finish. Fastest lap in our group was 2:09.9

= Great weekend



Thanks
Greg
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------=_Part_3577857_1529840536.1433267450079-- --===============8389936392163397522== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8389936392163397522==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 12:01:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79138258561F for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 12:01:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B64225851D9 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 11:57:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.228]) by resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id bVxr1q0024vw8ds01VxrHY; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:57:51 +0000 Received: from [100.92.71.204] ([70.196.205.226]) by resomta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id bVxg1q0084tcNCN01VxiiP; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:57:49 +0000 From: Bud Rolofson Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 11:57:38 -0600 To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Spitfire timing? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici, What timing setting are you Spitfire racers using? I've seen suggestions from 32 degrees total advance to 48. Thanks Bud Sent from Vail pass 10881 ft elevation. Will be back home in a couple hours from our Utah National Park tour in the RV. Sent from my Commodore 64 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 12:33:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954F42585A37 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 12:33:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.168]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4D72258577E for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 12:29:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.227]) by resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id bWUu1q0014ueUHc01WVS1n; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 18:29:26 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-208v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.218]) by resomta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id bWVS1q00N4j68Km01WVSCg; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 18:29:26 +0000 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 18:29:26 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: Bud References: <94AA7993-1E6A-4B50-9EE6-F41C368100B5@comcast.net> Thread-Topic: Spitfire timing? Thread-Index: oqTM3xiQYKhqndAqS5aCABA5w80fTA== s=q20140121; t=1433269766; bh=qLdl0S3qJuHqFKj51AAYd4QLYiD70Pzixw5Obwf1/l8=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=KyPMf1qGrAvsAlIyGuhZDZNweH8QF79alF/opJHP7dUJmM7PxXinSTOH/fe9K4col R/SRRqIDmGL1yvXXo4YWh5qdj7Qcxs29fdbtwI0drny5B3HVpmf2vxg55ujTXBXmF3 V2pZMsPHDH5DjWvyUfRcueb+CyhYuCW/TCatGD7Qj+SSg4GA4iEVspfaAWi7wtoAA7 /w7eKDaP+ch1R/7SNKMjw5g/Vr0NdjWQn1gXjfR69Pii+SMi5hpInqJQNgvMksSN5E kbbB8dRKoapevnYfzml7Ghi4BDygrs9GfleShLNVh027SFP6Ct42c1oLY0IxL2zsGy NNGuV7tGhtT6A== Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire timing? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6444053493524908385== boundary="----=_Part_21072258_662714414.1433269766165" ------=_Part_21072258_662714414.1433269766165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bud, Correct me if I'm wrong but you are talking about timing the spit to elev. 5000'-5200' where our tracks are or are you planning a trip to sea level? jg ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud" To: "fot" Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 11:57:38 AM Subject: [Fot] Spitfire timing? Amici, What timing setting are you Spitfire racers using? I've seen suggestions from 32 degrees total advance to 48. Thanks Bud Sent from Vail pass 10881 ft elevation. Will be back home in a couple hours from our Utah National Park tour in the RV. Sent from my Commodore 64 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ------=_Part_21072258_662714414.1433269766165 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Bud,
Correct me if I'm wrong but you are talking about timing the spit to elev. 5000'-5200' where our tracks are or are you planning a trip to sea level?
jg

From: "Bud" <levilevi@comcast.net>
To: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2015 11:57:38 AM
Subject: [Fot] Spitfire timing?

Amici,

What timing setting are you Spitfire racers using? I've seen suggestions from 32 degrees total advance to 48.
Thanks
Bud

Sent from Vail pass 10881 ft elevation. Will be back home in a couple hours from our Utah National Park tour in the RV.


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Use how you wish, just give me photo cred.

Enjoy...

Shawn Frank

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dhontqx9hq1rtjx/AAD2AVdXuCxDBtmGsQGVWRRqa?dl=0
--1716467154-1090869793-1433269934=:7549-- --===============0351322647682975280== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0351322647682975280==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 12:36:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D4372585C3C for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 12:36:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm48-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm48-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.121.113]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A55452585B5D for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 12:36:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm48.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2015 18:36:40 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.130] by nm48.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2015 18:33:48 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.167] by tm18.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2015 18:33:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1068.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2015 18:33:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 4746 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Jun 2015 18:33:48 -0000 t=1433270028; bh=HFHXFw94iIhWWP8bnOtR1aHVlFQYuoBGeprjTNxx2pU=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qczv0bvYGSgtwJFZVo43KUIdojNAC98vLAaDCGl5evCenbYzgw74OYKuuxWur2QEbgZ8L/kSEmhaXKplQpS2owJ8L2moOjteBsAwLWghlFjaLF88w0dqDrbJUp2JUoFSfJSJd/tseizjUdGwIpxkv2KgxbAnhAwHRyuarexJtuk= a2cn8gRmHzu85FgnWRGuiRMsI8CAIzdzMa6U_pPf.3oAiPE6URDcWJF6gQiM Wyad8pArBHLtQu.spHAYNWCLhlVAq1aMqvM.8i1P.nvk0mKiscRAsJARytop FpsUQfYceAwGMebcmdJaByqpwCJwWt8_xOi0lg0SxY560_YfwQU9VW1hvplL khP0D907r4oPaji9p4HNBl7RmOA59lSSaT_958xKW28zuJFO0nnjR_NkI3en Wt5Xcz937HXVwR1qph0iyzY1heKSlbGN6QkL9RiZmcRcQN4P1hhz2ccURuIQ 5l2_H7pZ0Q5XwKxUUfJErKczV8SwF4QOmOfbW81wDNwQvMJ2RIBd3rYh.wJ_ jQYBMQX7T54Rahsn3ZJgCip32G21JtIKFQpkOQlXgZbkUsrM2wHyGkSSqGFG u1mNb8Gihhk.TodCIiYFR34QC0LEA6v2xzeHV0l3wx_L1iS39WqsVoVpUqw1 QFFMt8GF74SMg1xGi6RGBd62KE2abr5_7Hvhqriw91TXY.QnFNzO5sWoJ.RB qbrcHLyvXJf5tB08QkRh12fuxQGKk Received: from [238.103.1.57] by web122904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 11:33:48 PDT SGVyZSBhcmUgdGhlIGNhcnMgc2l0dGluZyBzdGlsbC4uLgoKCkFnYWluLCB1c2UgaG93IHlvdSB3aWxsLCBqdXN0IGdpdmUgbWUgcGhvdG8gY3JlZC4KCgpTaGF3biBGcmFuawoKCmh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmRyb3Bib3guY29tL3NoL3cyaGJkbW04bGlhbHc5ZC9BQUJsVVFFby1oZHZUeEZfOEZnY0ZHblJhP2RsPTAKCgEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 11:33:48 -0700 From: Shawn Frank To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] KCUP cars pics link Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8545051425907170532== --1919040978-928879102-1433270028=:1301 Here are the cars sitting still... Again, use how you will, just give me photo cred. Shawn Frank https://www.dropbox.com/sh/w2hbdmm8lialw9d/AABlUQEo-hdvTxF_8FgcFGnRa?dl=0 --1919040978-928879102-1433270028=:1301
Here are the cars sitting still...

Again, use how you will, just give me photo cred.

Shawn Frank

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/w2hbdmm8lialw9d/AABlUQEo-hdvTxF_8FgcFGnRa?dl=0
--1919040978-928879102-1433270028=:1301-- --===============8545051425907170532== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8545051425907170532==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 12:39:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397C72585DB3 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 12:39:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm47-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm47-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.121.99]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AABDF258592E for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 12:38:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm47.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2015 18:38:50 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.115] by nm47.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2015 18:35:55 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.234] by tm106.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2015 18:35:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1049.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2015 18:35:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 66380 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Jun 2015 18:35:55 -0000 t=1433270155; bh=BN8kfKjHpn71fGMcG3MuzozcqPWmoHxzS6xBwkWb9xQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nFTMq/ywLgwsSoMo8SKKOAD+cQa+tpaIDq+jsHaox/rl/lXrfoSsK5OtFqnafVVJQAkE4i/TnzGPaUmzFnDAZt8wfUk2mcDeiXspaRwc5GufPuJ2/kRPy5JsSP6bNYjXB/Sjl2aFRcCJoCnFPY81g2YnVqdLQTYs9dIUzPSpLB0= RJ3Hw0xqUExxgAHZVnc6P2jADYY_0OQINg5X2om4oUK5ySW5sUbwSLHB0Rjk wUyHrFeqhFwn0dEDnRAvd.ckv6PvCxdr9RNUaNcd13iFNxVWmRphXSc7fKKu 8CpCEs1SNkwZqXrmKfl8t3nbJDQDsgOD1LYmlrJg2xRiRmF28N8kQGQ0cnGd H0Xsa1QT3ETwoqjA42_3lUQEZLsPJ31_lzeG.FvmFw.WBj6LN4RNtpfEylqh Q6q885KpxU1OtbcovVeJ5FrCkhHW0fLyQ_s.Yv45dYgsTbj1I5zGO.YJ92gz NX89TB.e_WWJRKF0iltvHPPI51Tn0Flnqb6n9SC3iBiDl86PaC4sKe0yQwy_ CV.wjr7yY8C4Vh9yHtjllblNzKaZx9TteMkzmCCHYKpB2B5UOp_.EHN6x4xJ a_f1cM5XMeWkfT5u3kbDnFdIhg5th6SkUZbrbHNL25xOnSU6OiCJ_uA4rsgJ KLWEGGna.IFNGkHFZjELO74Qqy7oq7oRQyzDCKLM1W2yQaQfIuSSFnTnzdRX ZqnGlH.7oo7Vh4iec6E_OPGABrWYc Received: from [238.103.1.57] by web122901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 11:35:55 PDT SGVyZSBpcyB0aGUgZ3JvdXAgcGljIHNlc3Npb24uCgoKRW5qb3kKCgpTaGF3biBGcmFuawoKCmh0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmRyb3Bib3guY29tL3NoLzloZ2RlN3diOHVzOGZmNC9BQUFGX01qTmZyRUFZdFhqXy1wWGRqZDRhP2RsPTAKCgEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 11:35:55 -0700 From: Shawn Frank To: Friends of Triumph Subject: [Fot] Group pics link Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7903134576331139725== ---396438602-681134956-1433270155=:49614 Here is the group pic session. Enjoy Shawn Frank https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9hgde7wb8us8ff4/AAAF_MjNfrEAYtXj_-pXdjd4a?dl=0 ---396438602-681134956-1433270155=:49614
Here is the group pic session.

Enjoy

Shawn Frank

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9hgde7wb8us8ff4/AAAF_MjNfrEAYtXj_-pXdjd4a?dl=0
---396438602-681134956-1433270155=:49614-- --===============7903134576331139725== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============7903134576331139725==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 13:03:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F93F258480E for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 13:03:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f174.google.com (mail-lb0-f174.google.com [209.85.217.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8AD2584614 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 13:02:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbcmx3 with SMTP id mx3so110714065lbc.1 for ; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 12:02:19 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Sj8zCL44LLd0pqLghLwabQpBLhUksj1adL7riGXEwi0=; b=hvROyqAUVUcahuiNpWDLGJxeNLMylwzTK5QZEj9cnjM+YjiF+Vfivvp3QCk+cLrFaJ 0g25wuyFW+u8rav9NRqxsRHqOLLMyxdtGyYWQvYkxLYodOUKO2vT6unsmT4vBoTB9JGQ Ss2/3VUx6aDT531PYFB9jjTelLY90E5H0SA8IOnEP5l7NqxLqmINb3ywP4HUwYiMFns9 naO2vmUIkFjFXv0LrelcMJr9m8kOqvdMS7knW5f1c54sxMspsrNrHdE8GcXmm2bnHx+F 3lYX7TiNxR61tcy1rLvVVwtXiNG08WByLT4YvMtzd7YWLkawOhH0HW7ZZ2SYtqvKmaPw /CkA== Tue, 02 Jun 2015 12:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.189.98 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 12:01:38 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Kas Kastner Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 12:01:38 -0700 To: Greg And Alison Blake , FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] IRS diff overheating Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7462315036299068583== --001a11c36c96ded73205178d9425 I had failure of all three cars at Sebring with the IRS cars. In practices the diffs overheated and puked oil out the breather tub as you describe. I laid part of it to a new diff but most to the heat generated by a disc type limited slip. The capacity of the diff is marginal for endurance running. Add to the capacity or add a cooler. *Never be beaten by equipment.* On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Greg And Alison Blake < ablake2@austin.rr.com> wrote: > Some of yall may have followed the social Media posts provided by our > teammates through the weekend. We were racing the Beanitos TR6 this past > weekend at what was to be TWS's last ever race. It was a split 16 hour > endurance race (Sat&Sun). > > We had a strange failure on Saturday. About 6 hours in, the truck was full > of gear oil. I had routed a diff vent line to the trunk. Upon returning to > the garage, we discovered melted poly diff mounts. Pic below. > > I've been scratching my head on this one. Prior to boiling the diff fluid, > we had zero leaks in the freshly serviced diff. I had replaced all seals > and filled with STALUBE 90WT GL4. > > I've been racing my TR3 using this same diff fluid for 6 years (replaced > every two weekends). Never a problem with my vintage race car. Of course, > I've never run the 3 for 6 hours straight. > > Some of the more seasoned endurance racers asked what fluid I had in the > diff. All suggested that mineral based fluid is not a good choice for > endurance events. > > I'd love to hear opinions as to the route cause of our failure and more > importantly, suggested remedies. > > As to the results, the car was running consistently 2:1x laps with a fast > lap of 2:10. We ended up taking the workers choice award. Had we run w/o > diff failure and a subsequent battery failure, we could have been in the > hunt for a podium finish. Fastest lap in our group was 2:09.9 > > Great weekend > > > > > Thanks > Greg > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com > > > > --001a11c36c96ded73205178d9425 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I had failure of all three cars at Sebring with the IRS ca= rs. In practices the diffs overheated and puked oil out the breather tub as= you describe. I laid part of it to a new diff but most to the heat generat= ed by a disc type limited slip. The capacity of the diff is marginal for en= durance running.=C2=A0Add to the=C2=A0=C2=A0capacity or add a cooler.=C2=A0=

Never be beaten by equipment= .


On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Greg And Al= ison Blake <ablake2@austin.rr.com> wrote:
Some of yall may have followed the social Media posts p= rovided by our teammates through the weekend. We were racing the Beanitos T= R6 this past weekend at what was to be TWS's last ever race. It was a s= plit 16 hour endurance race (Sat&Sun).

We had a strange failure on Saturday. About 6 hours in, the truck was full = of gear oil. I had routed a diff vent line to the trunk. Upon returning to = the garage, we discovered melted poly diff mounts. Pic below.

I've been scratching my head on this one. Prior to boiling the diff flu= id, we had zero leaks in the freshly serviced diff. I had replaced all seal= s and filled with STALUBE 90WT GL4.

I've been racing my TR3 using this same diff fluid for 6 years (replace= d every two weekends). Never a problem with my vintage race car. Of course,= I've never run the 3 for 6 hours straight.

Some of the more seasoned endurance racers asked what fluid I had in the di= ff. All suggested that mineral based fluid is not a good choice for enduran= ce events.

I'd love to hear opinions as to the route cause of our failure and more= importantly, suggested remedies.

As to the results, the car was running consistently 2:1x laps with a fast l= ap of 2:10. We ended up taking the workers choice award. Had we run w/o dif= f failure and a subsequent battery failure, we could have been in the hunt = for a podium finish. Fastest lap in our group was 2:09.9

Great weekend




Thanks
Greg
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bud, it depends on the cam you're using. Typically it is safe to set for a total of 32 degrees at 3000 rpm on most comp cams. Set it according to the cam data sheet though to be safe. Russ Moore Spitfire #49 -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Rolofson Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 1:58 PM To: FOT Subject: [Fot] Spitfire timing? Amici, What timing setting are you Spitfire racers using? I've seen suggestions from 32 degrees total advance to 48. Thanks Bud Sent from Vail pass 10881 ft elevation. Will be back home in a couple hours from our Utah National Park tour in the RV. Sent from my Commodore 64 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 14:33:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41892584849 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 14:33:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f177.google.com (mail-ig0-f177.google.com [209.85.213.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE5A25845FF for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 14:29:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: by igblz2 with SMTP id lz2so20690941igb.1 for ; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 13:29:45 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=eTPA2/DGbMOFhYgwhOizGP0if6OAcYBOTct/P+ftKF8=; b=mVS7guQYsAUsqTwQLT+2p/KRNZAwYWIYvOcZlwJPb39XArtLtfYcqEtKEj1/udSWJF Or86GMLIZ7ewHOMvsqpc+JDUfl4xmho3789kKyXziBw1GDnMJR8hNvbfZfHLNm1wLN+3 tkVDB5NMz/l/8EC1SjoeXzcv6U/2zFud2i+kd62JY/gldSeIPtqI8ayElQllKHKjo2cx i9ZVCMGNtizShsNDHjp3dGmVXTT1LjhxIVjkt2xwYUNqmAyOio9FCJ7SsCaHyy9atTWr k4Gmf/VLcbJ5oR4BWjntx42ftV1Yj/S3XPco3pZTJNn9GlispyU5PGOdNTaTFzVEKDtM VFtw== Tue, 02 Jun 2015 13:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.110.202 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 13:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:29:45 -0500 From: McKearn McKearn To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Weber help Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============9009792802043998433== --001a11c29e1493f5f205178ecdcb Hi all. Not sure if the previous post got out or not but I just wanted to say thanks to those who helped me diagnose my carb problem. As it turns out the problem was with the rubber O-rings in between the carb and manifold. They got flatted and leaked. New O-rings and were back good again. Pat --001a11c29e1493f5f205178ecdcb Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=C2=A0Hi all.
=C2=A0 Not sure if the previo= us post got out or not but I just wanted to say thanks to those who helped = me diagnose my carb problem. As it turns out the problem was with the rubbe= r O-rings in between the carb and manifold. They got flatted and leaked. Ne= w O-rings and were back good again.=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Pat
--001a11c29e1493f5f205178ecdcb-- --===============9009792802043998433== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============9009792802043998433==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 15:04:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577FC2584C48 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:04:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB8B2580873 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 14:58:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [76.84.235.224] ([76.84.235.224:4572] helo=guinanhp) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 31/D2-08286-FF81E655; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 20:58:40 +0000 From: "Joe Guinan" To: , Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:56:36 -0500 Thread-Index: AdCddpz7l08K5GoPSnGa94KdolKz2Q== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Spitfire FE or FK engine? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1667003332131697791== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0169_01D09D4C.B4FEB0D0" Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0169_01D09D4C.B4FEB0D0 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed, Good reference for Spit engine numbers is here - http://www.triumphspitfire.com/enginenumbers.html My understanding is the two early 1296 (FD and FE) are preferred for racing as they are "small main bearing" blocks - using the same basic crank as the 1147. The later FH and FK blocks are large mains. These can be used, won't spin up quite as fast though they will take high rpm better than the stroked cranks of the 1500's. Joe Guinan Fremont, NE Looking at a big pile of Spitfire. $800: Two so-so roundtail bodies, 1970 chassis, very nice. PRI rear end assembly. FK engine & FC engine. Overdrive trans & non-O/D trans too. Two hardtops, two dash' with instruments, and quite a few other parts. I've currently got a very nice '64 1147 race car, and a '66 very unrestored 1147. Son in law wants to build another vintage racer. I've heard that there are two versions of the 1296 motor, with one being not so good. The motor included with this deal is an FK. Is the FK the "good" one to build for vintage racing? Edward Dunn ------=_NextPart_000_0169_01D09D4C.B4FEB0D0 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Ed,

 

Good = reference for Spit engine numbers is here - http://www.tri= umphspitfire.com/enginenumbers.html

My understanding is the two early 1296 (FD and FE) = are preferred for racing as they are “small main bearing” = blocks – using the same basic crank as the 1147. The later FH and = FK blocks are large mains. These can be used,  won’t spin up = quite as fast though they will take high rpm better than the stroked = cranks of the 1500’s.

 

Joe = Guinan

Fremont, = NE

 

Looking at a big pile of Spitfire.  $800: Two = so-so roundtail bodies, 1970 chassis, very nice. PRI rear end assembly. = FK engine & FC engine. Overdrive trans & non-O/D trans too. Two = hardtops, two dash' with instruments, and quite a few other parts. I've = currently got a very nice '64 1147 race car, and a '66 very unrestored = 1147. Son in law wants to build another vintage racer. I've heard that = there are two versions of the 1296 motor, with one being not so good. = The motor included with this deal is an FK.  Is the FK the = "good" one to build for vintage racing?

 

Edward = Dunn

 

------=_NextPart_000_0169_01D09D4C.B4FEB0D0-- --===============1667003332131697791== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1667003332131697791==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 15:19:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C002584EB6 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:19:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk [65.20.0.183]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA3525849F2 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:19:20 -0600 (MDT) reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 ip=82.69.34.57, rules=__CT, __CTYPE_MULTIPART_ALT, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY, __CTYPE_MULTIPART, CTYPE_MULTIPART_NO_QUOTE, __MIME_VERSION, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __HAS_FROM, __PHISH_FROM2, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, __HAS_X_MAILER, __IN_REP_TO, __MULTIPLE_RCPTS_CC_X2, __CTE, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __MSGID_APPLEMAIL, __REFERENCES, __TO_MALFORMED_2, MIME_LOWER_CASE, __ANY_URI, URI_ENDS_IN_HTML, __FRAUD_BODY_WEBMAIL, __CP_MEDIA_BODY, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, SUPERLONG_LINE, __HAS_HTML, BODYTEXTH_SIZE_10000_LESS, __MIME_HTML, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML, __RATWARE_SIGNATURE_3_N1, RDNS_GENERIC_BROADBAND, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, __URI_NS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, __PHISH_FROM, MULTIPLE_RCPTS, RDNS_SUSP, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, REFERENCES Received: from [10.238.106.67] (82.69.34.57) by rgout06.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (8.6.122.06) (authenticated as keithfiles@btinternet.com) id 556DCBAF001956DE; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 22:19:17 +0100 s=btcpcloud; t=1433279962; bh=BKi662uteo6xBRCc4QAOa0fwtc4psJzsZ085xeEVgC4=; h=Mime-Version:Subject:From:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Message-Id:References:To; b=ZpzQgksy+iGx9nuaup5+iSsvc3nXMqzavbOBZbDU3m6sUEWJxuRDo7i5+amihCVt2Qeh0leftI1BEHW2TbDulb4xH76KUVW7cCGJkDRJUjDYdnNGZ1B6bX2CP8F3CTbPLh3QMpiCrcpC496lThKP0iGJY516FukFrn4Zlc8H5Hc= From: Keith Files Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 22:19:16 +0100 References: To: Kas Kastner Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] IRS diff overheating Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3318034009711717251== boundary=Apple-Mail-0E139E37-47AD-43E8-A55D-DA79EA2507F0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-0E139E37-47AD-43E8-A55D-DA79EA2507F0 charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We use a diff cooler to avoid the problem on the TR6, a lot cheaper than con= tinual rebuilds of the diff. I ran with one doing 3 hours of the Nurburgring= Nordschleife a couple of years ago, it worked perfectly. Keith Sent from my iPad > On 2 Jun 2015, at 20:01, Kas Kastner wrote: >=20 > I had failure of all three cars at Sebring with the IRS cars. In practices= the diffs overheated and puked oil out the breather tub as you describe. I l= aid part of it to a new diff but most to the heat generated by a disc type l= imited slip. The capacity of the diff is marginal for endurance running. Add= to the capacity or add a cooler.=20 >=20 > Never be beaten by equipment. >=20 >=20 >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: >> Some of yall may have followed the social Media posts provided by our tea= mmates through the weekend. We were racing the Beanitos TR6 this past weeken= d at what was to be TWS's last ever race. It was a split 16 hour endurance r= ace (Sat&Sun). >>=20 >> We had a strange failure on Saturday. About 6 hours in, the truck was ful= l of gear oil. I had routed a diff vent line to the trunk. Upon returning to= the garage, we discovered melted poly diff mounts. Pic below. >>=20 >> I've been scratching my head on this one. Prior to boiling the diff fluid= , we had zero leaks in the freshly serviced diff. I had replaced all seals a= nd filled with STALUBE 90WT GL4. >>=20 >> I've been racing my TR3 using this same diff fluid for 6 years (replaced e= very two weekends). Never a problem with my vintage race car. Of course, I'v= e never run the 3 for 6 hours straight. >>=20 >> Some of the more seasoned endurance racers asked what fluid I had in the d= iff. All suggested that mineral based fluid is not a good choice for enduran= ce events. >>=20 >> I'd love to hear opinions as to the route cause of our failure and more i= mportantly, suggested remedies. >>=20 >> As to the results, the car was running consistently 2:1x laps with a fast= lap of 2:10. We ended up taking the workers choice award. Had we run w/o di= ff failure and a subsequent battery failure, we could have been in the hunt f= or a podium finish. Fastest lap in our group was 2:09.9 >>=20 >> Great weekend >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Thanks >> Greg >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >>=20 >> http://www.fot-racing.com >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@= gmail.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/keithfiles@b= tinternet.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-0E139E37-47AD-43E8-A55D-DA79EA2507F0 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We use a diff cooler to avoid the prob= lem on the TR6, a lot cheaper than continual rebuilds of the diff. I ran wit= h one doing 3 hours of the Nurburgring Nordschleife a couple of years ago, i= t worked perfectly.

Keith

Sent from my iPad<= /div>

On 2 Jun 2015, at 20:01, Kas Kastner <kaskastner@gmail.com> wrote:

I had failure of all three cars at S= ebring with the IRS cars. In practices the diffs overheated and puked oil ou= t the breather tub as you describe. I laid part of it to a new diff but most= to the heat generated by a disc type limited slip. The capacity of the diff= is marginal for endurance running. Add to the  capacity or a= dd a cooler. 

Never be bea= ten by equipment.


On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Greg And Ali= son Blake <ablake2@austin.rr.com> wrote:
Some of yall may have followed the social Media posts provid= ed by our teammates through the weekend. We were racing the Beanitos TR6 thi= s past weekend at what was to be TWS's last ever race. It was a split 16 hou= r endurance race (Sat&Sun).

We had a strange failure on Saturday. About 6 hours in, the truck was full o= f gear oil. I had routed a diff vent line to the trunk. Upon returning to th= e garage, we discovered melted poly diff mounts. Pic below.

I've been scratching my head on this one. Prior to boiling the diff fluid, w= e had zero leaks in the freshly serviced diff. I had replaced all seals and f= illed with STALUBE 90WT GL4.

I've been racing my TR3 using this same diff fluid for 6 years (replaced eve= ry two weekends). Never a problem with my vintage race car. Of course, I've n= ever run the 3 for 6 hours straight.

Some of the more seasoned endurance racers asked what fluid I had in the dif= f. All suggested that mineral based fluid is not a good choice for endurance= events.

I'd love to hear opinions as to the route cause of our failure and more impo= rtantly, suggested remedies.

As to the results, the car was running consistently 2:1x laps with a fast la= p of 2:10. We ended up taking the workers choice award. Had we run w/o diff f= ailure and a subsequent battery failure, we could have been in the hunt for a= podium finish. Fastest lap in our group was 2:09.9

Great weekend




Thanks
Greg
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= --Apple-Mail-0E139E37-47AD-43E8-A55D-DA79EA2507F0-- --===============3318034009711717251== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3318034009711717251==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 15:33:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB8E2584F5C for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:33:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF082584EE0 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:27:03 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge03 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [107.107.191.9] ([107.107.191.9:20705] helo=[10.209.226.169]) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id EB/9B-02086-6AF1E655; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 21:27:03 +0000 References: From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:26:59 -0500 To: Keith Files Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] IRS diff overheating Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0062631124283611214== boundary=Apple-Mail-2437B7AE-6232-4860-8B90-997810C2D492 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-2437B7AE-6232-4860-8B90-997810C2D492 charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Keith Can you send me info in this? I assume it requires an external fluid pump. Thanks, Greg > On Jun 2, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Keith Files wrote:= >=20 > We use a diff cooler to avoid the problem on the TR6, a lot cheaper than c= ontinual rebuilds of the diff. I ran with one doing 3 hours of the Nurburgri= ng Nordschleife a couple of years ago, it worked perfectly. >=20 > Keith >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 >> On 2 Jun 2015, at 20:01, Kas Kastner wrote: >>=20 >> I had failure of all three cars at Sebring with the IRS cars. In practice= s the diffs overheated and puked oil out the breather tub as you describe. I= laid part of it to a new diff but most to the heat generated by a disc type= limited slip. The capacity of the diff is marginal for endurance running. A= dd to the capacity or add a cooler.=20 >>=20 >> Never be beaten by equipment. >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: >>> Some of yall may have followed the social Media posts provided by our te= ammates through the weekend. We were racing the Beanitos TR6 this past weeke= nd at what was to be TWS's last ever race. It was a split 16 hour endurance r= ace (Sat&Sun). >>>=20 >>> We had a strange failure on Saturday. About 6 hours in, the truck was fu= ll of gear oil. I had routed a diff vent line to the trunk. Upon returning t= o the garage, we discovered melted poly diff mounts. Pic below. >>>=20 >>> I've been scratching my head on this one. Prior to boiling the diff flui= d, we had zero leaks in the freshly serviced diff. I had replaced all seals a= nd filled with STALUBE 90WT GL4. >>>=20 >>> I've been racing my TR3 using this same diff fluid for 6 years (replaced= every two weekends). Never a problem with my vintage race car. Of course, I= 've never run the 3 for 6 hours straight. >>>=20 >>> Some of the more seasoned endurance racers asked what fluid I had in the= diff. All suggested that mineral based fluid is not a good choice for endur= ance events. >>>=20 >>> I'd love to hear opinions as to the route cause of our failure and more i= mportantly, suggested remedies. >>>=20 >>> As to the results, the car was running consistently 2:1x laps with a fas= t lap of 2:10. We ended up taking the workers choice award. Had we run w/o d= iff failure and a subsequent battery failure, we could have been in the hunt= for a podium finish. Fastest lap in our group was 2:09.9 >>>=20 >>> Great weekend >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Thanks >>> Greg >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>>=20 >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>=20 >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner= @gmail.com >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >>=20 >> http://www.fot-racing.com >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/keithfiles@= btinternet.com >>=20 >>=20 --Apple-Mail-2437B7AE-6232-4860-8B90-997810C2D492 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Keith

Can you= send me info in this?  I assume it requires an external fluid pump.

Thanks,

Greg



On Jun 2, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Keith Files <keithfiles@btinternet.com> wrote:

We use a diff cooler to avoid the problem o= n the TR6, a lot cheaper than continual rebuilds of the diff. I ran with one= doing 3 hours of the Nurburgring Nordschleife a couple of years ago, it wor= ked perfectly.

Keith

Sent from my iPad
=

On 2 Jun 2015, at 20:01, Kas Kastner <kaskastner@gmail.com> wrote:

I had failure of all three cars at Sebrin= g with the IRS cars. In practices the diffs overheated and puked oil out the= breather tub as you describe. I laid part of it to a new diff but most to t= he heat generated by a disc type limited slip. The capacity of the diff is m= arginal for endurance running. Add to the  capacity or add a c= ooler. 

Never be beaten by= equipment.


On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Greg And Ali= son Blake <ablake2@austin.rr.com> wrote:
Some of yall may have followed the social Media posts provid= ed by our teammates through the weekend. We were racing the Beanitos TR6 thi= s past weekend at what was to be TWS's last ever race. It was a split 16 hou= r endurance race (Sat&Sun).

We had a strange failure on Saturday. About 6 hours in, the truck was full o= f gear oil. I had routed a diff vent line to the trunk. Upon returning to th= e garage, we discovered melted poly diff mounts. Pic below.

I've been scratching my head on this one. Prior to boiling the diff fluid, w= e had zero leaks in the freshly serviced diff. I had replaced all seals and f= illed with STALUBE 90WT GL4.

I've been racing my TR3 using this same diff fluid for 6 years (replaced eve= ry two weekends). Never a problem with my vintage race car. Of course, I've n= ever run the 3 for 6 hours straight.

Some of the more seasoned endurance racers asked what fluid I had in the dif= f. All suggested that mineral based fluid is not a good choice for endurance= events.

I'd love to hear opinions as to the route cause of our failure and more impo= rtantly, suggested remedies.

As to the results, the car was running consistently 2:1x laps with a fast la= p of 2:10. We ended up taking the workers choice award. Had we run w/o diff f= ailure and a subsequent battery failure, we could have been in the hunt for a= podium finish. Fastest lap in our group was 2:09.9

Great weekend




Thanks
Greg
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= --Apple-Mail-2437B7AE-6232-4860-8B90-997810C2D492-- --===============0062631124283611214== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0062631124283611214==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 15:34:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A332585115 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:34:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E9E2584EE0 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:28:46 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge03 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:29495] helo=cdptpa-web21) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 8D/4D-02086-F002E655; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 21:28:47 +0000 Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 21:28:47 +0000 From: To: Keith Files , Kas Kastner Sensitivity: Normal Tue, 2 Jun 2015 21:28:47 +0000 Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] IRS diff overheating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We ran Cool Shirts for the WRL race. While the diff was boiling over we were cool, calm and carrying on. So let's see, I'll be adding a Cool Shirt system with a little 12 Volt pump, and the diff cooler with a little 12 Volt pump makes sense. Don't anyone dare let me try out a helmet cooler. I guess I can't put off getting an alternator wired in any longer. Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com ---- Keith Files wrote: > We use a diff cooler to avoid the problem on the TR6, a lot cheaper than continual rebuilds of the diff. I ran with one doing 3 hours of the Nurburgring Nordschleife a couple of years ago, it worked perfectly. > > Keith > > Sent from my iPad > > > On 2 Jun 2015, at 20:01, Kas Kastner wrote: > > > > I had failure of all three cars at Sebring with the IRS cars. In practices the diffs overheated and puked oil out the breather tub as you describe. I laid part of it to a new diff but most to the heat generated by a disc type limited slip. The capacity of the diff is marginal for endurance running. Add to the capacity or add a cooler. > > > > Never be beaten by equipment. > > > > > >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: > >> Some of yall may have followed the social Media posts provided by our teammates through the weekend. We were racing the Beanitos TR6 this past weekend at what was to be TWS's last ever race. It was a split 16 hour endurance race (Sat&Sun). > >> > >> We had a strange failure on Saturday. About 6 hours in, the truck was full of gear oil. I had routed a diff vent line to the trunk. Upon returning to the garage, we discovered melted poly diff mounts. Pic below. > >> > >> I've been scratching my head on this one. Prior to boiling the diff fluid, we had zero leaks in the freshly serviced diff. I had replaced all seals and filled with STALUBE 90WT GL4. > >> > >> I've been racing my TR3 using this same diff fluid for 6 years (replaced every two weekends). Never a problem with my vintage race car. Of course, I've never run the 3 for 6 hours straight. > >> > >> Some of the more seasoned endurance racers asked what fluid I had in the diff. All suggested that mineral based fluid is not a good choice for endurance events. > >> > >> I'd love to hear opinions as to the route cause of our failure and more importantly, suggested remedies. > >> > >> As to the results, the car was running consistently 2:1x laps with a fast lap of 2:10. We ended up taking the workers choice award. Had we run w/o diff failure and a subsequent battery failure, we could have been in the hunt for a podium finish. Fastest lap in our group was 2:09.9 > >> > >> Great weekend > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Thanks > >> Greg > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/keithfiles@btinternet.com > > > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 15:35:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CB2025853A4 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:35:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from rgout0501.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (rgout0501.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk [65.20.0.222]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914562585108 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:35:19 -0600 (MDT) reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 ip=82.69.34.57, rules=__CT, __CTYPE_MULTIPART_ALT, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY, __CTYPE_MULTIPART, CTYPE_MULTIPART_NO_QUOTE, __MIME_VERSION, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __HAS_FROM, __PHISH_FROM2, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, __HAS_X_MAILER, __IN_REP_TO, __MULTIPLE_RCPTS_CC_X2, __CTE, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __MSGID_APPLEMAIL, __REFERENCES, __TO_MALFORMED_2, MIME_LOWER_CASE, __ANY_URI, URI_ENDS_IN_HTML, __FRAUD_BODY_WEBMAIL, __CP_MEDIA_BODY, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, SUPERLONG_LINE, __FORWARDED_MSG, __HAS_HTML, BODY_SIZE_10000_PLUS, BODYTEXTH_SIZE_10000_LESS, __MIME_HTML, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML, __RATWARE_SIGNATURE_3_N1, RDNS_GENERIC_BROADBAND, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, __URI_NS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, __PHISH_FROM, MULTIPLE_RCPTS, RDNS_SUSP, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, REFERENCES Received: from [10.238.106.67] (82.69.34.57) by rgout05.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (8.6.122.06) (authenticated as keithfiles@btinternet.com) id 556DA85400327ABB; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 22:35:10 +0100 s=btcpcloud; t=1433280913; bh=aA603oZKYH3CmNeqGJToKSN21rNQfVOYq9qv99J2BL8=; h=Mime-Version:Subject:From:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Message-Id:References:To; b=wL51Rwa2cS0P7R+3iSxyVXwxHuEeNGfPjDKd08VKyIXExeHDwFv2hfoo2bUSRWBkK9n1cD4KbaAGY3wmfQWjv9ZJ83C5RTQmSSWBMErji78Z9QwbUAGX/Sg800K0/2DAUCEB9LZFl09G6I9Ncbdi6rG+6hk56ar4crdXsH9d6gI= From: Keith Files Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 22:35:16 +0100 References: <1DA620E4-3E47-4A4C-878D-D9BC2899AC47@austin.rr.com> To: Greg And Alison Blake Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] IRS diff overheating Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5551512809549387962== boundary=Apple-Mail-8143EBD1-E2C6-45B0-ADCF-EE58F736FAB3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-8143EBD1-E2C6-45B0-ADCF-EE58F736FAB3 charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sure. I will also send you some pictures when I get the car back in 2 weeks t= ime. What we did was to buy a small 6 row cooler (I think but will check) that w= e mounted to the boot (trunk) floor by the inner rear valance. We cut a larg= e hole (8"x 3" or so) in the boot floor just in front of the oil cooler and= manufactured an air scoop which we attached to the underside of the boot fl= oor. The cooler pipes were attached to the diff and cooler and driven by an o= ld Lucas fuel pump. As I said I will send you photo's and more precise measurements when I get t= he car back from the workshop. Hope the above helps for now. Keith Sent from my iPad > On 2 Jun 2015, at 22:26, Greg And Alison Blake wro= te: >=20 > Keith >=20 > Can you send me info in this? I assume it requires an external fluid pump= . >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Greg >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On Jun 2, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Keith Files wrote= : >>=20 >> We use a diff cooler to avoid the problem on the TR6, a lot cheaper than c= ontinual rebuilds of the diff. I ran with one doing 3 hours of the Nurburgri= ng Nordschleife a couple of years ago, it worked perfectly. >>=20 >> Keith >>=20 >> Sent from my iPad >>=20 >>> On 2 Jun 2015, at 20:01, Kas Kastner wrote: >>>=20 >>> I had failure of all three cars at Sebring with the IRS cars. In practic= es the diffs overheated and puked oil out the breather tub as you describe. I= laid part of it to a new diff but most to the heat generated by a disc type= limited slip. The capacity of the diff is marginal for endurance running. A= dd to the capacity or add a cooler.=20 >>>=20 >>> Never be beaten by equipment. >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: >>>> Some of yall may have followed the social Media posts provided by our t= eammates through the weekend. We were racing the Beanitos TR6 this past week= end at what was to be TWS's last ever race. It was a split 16 hour endurance= race (Sat&Sun). >>>>=20 >>>> We had a strange failure on Saturday. About 6 hours in, the truck was f= ull of gear oil. I had routed a diff vent line to the trunk. Upon returning t= o the garage, we discovered melted poly diff mounts. Pic below. >>>>=20 >>>> I've been scratching my head on this one. Prior to boiling the diff flu= id, we had zero leaks in the freshly serviced diff. I had replaced all seals= and filled with STALUBE 90WT GL4. >>>>=20 >>>> I've been racing my TR3 using this same diff fluid for 6 years (replace= d every two weekends). Never a problem with my vintage race car. Of course, I= 've never run the 3 for 6 hours straight. >>>>=20 >>>> Some of the more seasoned endurance racers asked what fluid I had in th= e diff. All suggested that mineral based fluid is not a good choice for endu= rance events. >>>>=20 >>>> I'd love to hear opinions as to the route cause of our failure and more= importantly, suggested remedies. >>>>=20 >>>> As to the results, the car was running consistently 2:1x laps with a fa= st lap of 2:10. We ended up taking the workers choice award. Had we run w/o d= iff failure and a subsequent battery failure, we could have been in the hunt= for a podium finish. Fastest lap in our group was 2:09.9 >>>>=20 >>>> Great weekend >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Thanks >>>> Greg >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> fot@autox.team.net >>>>=20 >>>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>>=20 >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastne= r@gmail.com >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>>=20 >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>=20 >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/keithfiles= @btinternet.com >>>=20 >>>=20 --Apple-Mail-8143EBD1-E2C6-45B0-ADCF-EE58F736FAB3 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sure. I will also send you some pictur= es when I get the car back in 2 weeks time.

What we= did was to buy a small 6 row cooler (I think but will check)  that we m= ounted to the boot (trunk) floor by the inner rear valance. We cut a large h= ole  (8"x 3" or so) in the boot floor just in front of the oil cooler a= nd manufactured an air scoop which we attached to the underside of the boot f= loor. The cooler pipes were attached to the diff and cooler and driven by an= old Lucas fuel pump.

As I said I will send you pho= to's and more precise measurements when I get the car back from the workshop= .

Hope the above helps for now.

Keith

Sent from my iPad

On 2 Jun 2015, at 22:26, G= reg And Alison Blake <ablake2@au= stin.rr.com> wrote:

Kei= th

Can you send me info in this?  I assume it r= equires an external fluid pump.

Thanks,
<= br>
Greg



On Jun 2, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Kei= th Files <keithfiles@btinter= net.com> wrote:

We use a= diff cooler to avoid the problem on the TR6, a lot cheaper than continual r= ebuilds of the diff. I ran with one doing 3 hours of the Nurburgring Nordsch= leife a couple of years ago, it worked perfectly.

K= eith

Sent from my iPad

On 2 Jun 2015, at 20:01, Kas Kas= tner <kaskastner@gmail.com>= ; wrote:

I had f= ailure of all three cars at Sebring with the IRS cars. In practices the diff= s overheated and puked oil out the breather tub as you describe. I laid part= of it to a new diff but most to the heat generated by a disc type limited s= lip. The capacity of the diff is marginal for endurance running. Add to= the  capacity or add a cooler. 

Never be beaten by equipment.


On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Greg And Ali= son Blake <ablake2@austin.rr.com> wrote:
Some of yall may have followed the social Media posts provid= ed by our teammates through the weekend. We were racing the Beanitos TR6 thi= s past weekend at what was to be TWS's last ever race. It was a split 16 hou= r endurance race (Sat&Sun).

We had a strange failure on Saturday. About 6 hours in, the truck was full o= f gear oil. I had routed a diff vent line to the trunk. Upon returning to th= e garage, we discovered melted poly diff mounts. Pic below.

I've been scratching my head on this one. Prior to boiling the diff fluid, w= e had zero leaks in the freshly serviced diff. I had replaced all seals and f= illed with STALUBE 90WT GL4.

I've been racing my TR3 using this same diff fluid for 6 years (replaced eve= ry two weekends). Never a problem with my vintage race car. Of course, I've n= ever run the 3 for 6 hours straight.

Some of the more seasoned endurance racers asked what fluid I had in the dif= f. All suggested that mineral based fluid is not a good choice for endurance= events.

I'd love to hear opinions as to the route cause of our failure and more impo= rtantly, suggested remedies.

As to the results, the car was running consistently 2:1x laps with a fast la= p of 2:10. We ended up taking the workers choice award. Had we run w/o diff f= ailure and a subsequent battery failure, we could have been in the hunt for a= podium finish. Fastest lap in our group was 2:09.9

Great weekend




Thanks
Greg
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= --Apple-Mail-8143EBD1-E2C6-45B0-ADCF-EE58F736FAB3-- --===============5551512809549387962== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5551512809549387962==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 16:03:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FFBB2584E1F for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:03:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A5C25849F2 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:01:43 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge03 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [107.107.191.9] ([107.107.191.9:50656] helo=[10.209.226.169]) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id E2/48-02086-7C72E655; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 22:01:44 +0000 References: <94AA7993-1E6A-4B50-9EE6-F41C368100B5@comcast.net> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 17:01:40 -0500 To: Bud Rolofson Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire timing? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Not a spitfire guy but 48???? WOW that seems really high. My TR3 race motor likes 30. It's never been on a Dyno so I am sure I am leaving some power unused, but I don't melt Pistons or hammer bearings either. > On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > > Amici, > > What timing setting are you Spitfire racers using? I've seen suggestions from 32 degrees total advance to 48. > Thanks > Bud > > Sent from Vail pass 10881 ft elevation. Will be back home in a couple hours from our Utah National Park tour in the RV. > > > Sent from my Commodore 64 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 16:34:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283382585385 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:34:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (aso-006-i438.relay.mailchannels.net [23.91.64.119]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799422585097 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:32:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from s15-dallas.accountservergroup.com (ip-10-204-4-183.us-west-2.compute.internal [10.204.4.183]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 529C9A07DD; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 22:32:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from s15-dallas.accountservergroup.com (s15-dallas.accountservergroup.com [10.21.145.197]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.4.8); Tue, 02 Jun 2015 22:32:11 +0000 Received: from ppp173-233.broadband.gorge.net ([209.216.173.233]:47875 helo=[10.0.1.183]) by s15-dallas.accountservergroup.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1YzujB-000BQM-2I; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 17:32:09 -0500 From: Bill Babcock Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:32:07 -0700 References: To: Keith Files Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] IRS diff overheating Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8529268248516463490== --Apple-Mail=_CA584408-78AC-476A-BAC6-E0D6800CC7DA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 I don=E2=80=99t know if you=E2=80=99ve seen the diff cover on Peyote. I = don=E2=80=99t remember where I got it, but it sure solved my diff = overheating problems. If nothing else the sheer mass of aluminum helps, = but it=E2=80=99s deeply finned. I=E2=80=99ve put temp sensing paint on = it a few times and the outside of the cover never gets above 170F. the = cast steel banjo never gets above 180F. I doubt the oil gets much above = 250=E2=80=94there=E2=80=99s none of toasty sulfur smell when I drain it.=20= > On Jun 2, 2015, at 2:19 PM, Keith Files = wrote: >=20 > We use a diff cooler to avoid the problem on the TR6, a lot cheaper = than continual rebuilds of the diff. I ran with one doing 3 hours of the = Nurburgring Nordschleife a couple of years ago, it worked perfectly. >=20 > Keith >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 > On 2 Jun 2015, at 20:01, Kas Kastner =20 >> I had failure of all three cars at Sebring with the IRS cars. In = practices the diffs overheated and puked oil out the breather tub as you = describe. I laid part of it to a new diff but most to the heat generated = by a disc type limited slip. The capacity of the diff is marginal for = endurance running. Add to the capacity or add a cooler.=20 >>=20 >> Never be beaten by equipment. >>=20 >>=20 >> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Greg And Alison Blake = >> Some of yall may have followed the social Media posts provided by our = teammates through the weekend. We were racing the Beanitos TR6 this past = weekend at what was to be TWS's last ever race. It was a split 16 hour = endurance race (Sat&Sun). >>=20 >> We had a strange failure on Saturday. About 6 hours in, the truck was = full of gear oil. I had routed a diff vent line to the trunk. Upon = returning to the garage, we discovered melted poly diff mounts. Pic = below. >>=20 >> I've been scratching my head on this one. Prior to boiling the diff = fluid, we had zero leaks in the freshly serviced diff. I had replaced = all seals and filled with STALUBE 90WT GL4. >>=20 >> I've been racing my TR3 using this same diff fluid for 6 years = (replaced every two weekends). Never a problem with my vintage race car. = Of course, I've never run the 3 for 6 hours straight. >>=20 >> Some of the more seasoned endurance racers asked what fluid I had in = the diff. All suggested that mineral based fluid is not a good choice = for endurance events. >>=20 >> I'd love to hear opinions as to the route cause of our failure and = more importantly, suggested remedies. >>=20 >> As to the results, the car was running consistently 2:1x laps with a = fast lap of 2:10. We ended up taking the workers choice award. Had we = run w/o diff failure and a subsequent battery failure, we could have = been in the hunt for a podium finish. Fastest lap in our group was = 2:09.9 >>=20 >> Great weekend >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Thanks >> Greg >> _______________________________________________ >>=20 >> http://www.fot-racing.com >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html = >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com = >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >>=20 >> http://www.fot-racing.com >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html = >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/keithfiles@btinternet.com = >>=20 >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill@ponostyle.com >=20 >=20 Bill Babcock Bill@ponostyle.com Editor: Ponostyle Celebrating Water Editor: Xtreme Geezer Fitness and Fun After Forty 503.936.7660 http://www.PonoStyle.com http://www.Xgeez.com --Apple-Mail=_CA584408-78AC-476A-BAC6-E0D6800CC7DA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 I don=E2=80=99t know if you=E2=80=99ve seen the diff cover on = Peyote. I don=E2=80=99t remember where I got it, but it sure solved my = diff overheating problems. If nothing else the sheer mass of aluminum = helps, but it=E2=80=99s deeply finned. I=E2=80=99ve put temp sensing = paint on it a few times and the outside of the cover never gets above = 170F. the cast steel banjo never gets above 180F.  I doubt the oil = gets much above 250=E2=80=94there=E2=80=99s none of toasty sulfur smell = when I drain it. 

On = Jun 2, 2015, at 2:19 PM, Keith Files <keithfiles@btinternet.com> wrote:

We use a diff = cooler to avoid the problem on the TR6, a lot cheaper than continual = rebuilds of the diff. I ran with one doing 3 hours of the Nurburgring = Nordschleife a couple of years ago, it worked perfectly.

Keith

Sent from my iPad

On 2 = Jun 2015, at 20:01, Kas Kastner <kaskastner@gmail.com> wrote:

I had failure of all three cars at Sebring with = the IRS cars. In practices the diffs overheated and puked oil out the = breather tub as you describe. I laid part of it to a new diff but most = to the heat generated by a disc type limited slip. The capacity of the = diff is marginal for endurance running. Add to = the  capacity or add a cooler. 

Never be beaten by = equipment.


On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:40 = AM, Greg And Alison Blake <ablake2@austin.rr.com> wrote:
Some of yall may have = followed the social Media posts provided by our teammates through the = weekend. We were racing the Beanitos TR6 this past weekend at what was = to be TWS's last ever race. It was a split 16 hour endurance race = (Sat&Sun).

We had a strange failure on Saturday. About 6 hours in, the truck was = full of gear oil. I had routed a diff vent line to the trunk. Upon = returning to the garage, we discovered melted poly diff mounts. Pic = below.

I've been scratching my head on this one. Prior to boiling the diff = fluid, we had zero leaks in the freshly serviced diff. I had replaced = all seals and filled with STALUBE 90WT GL4.

I've been racing my TR3 using this same diff fluid for 6 years (replaced = every two weekends). Never a problem with my vintage race car. Of = course, I've never run the 3 for 6 hours straight.

Some of the more seasoned endurance racers asked what fluid I had in the = diff. All suggested that mineral based fluid is not a good choice for = endurance events.

I'd love to hear opinions as to the route cause of our failure and more = importantly, suggested remedies.

As to the results, the car was running consistently 2:1x laps with a = fast lap of 2:10. We ended up taking the workers choice award. Had we = run w/o diff failure and a subsequent battery failure, we could have = been in the hunt for a podium finish. Fastest lap in our group was = 2:09.9

Great weekend




Thanks
Greg
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[69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id x77sm10317947oix.24.2015.06.02.15.53.59 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 02 Jun 2015 15:54:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 17:53:58 -0500 References: <94AA7993-1E6A-4B50-9EE6-F41C368100B5@comcast.net> <4A5B8B94-C7FE-45D0-8F6D-77242104FFE3@austin.rr.com> To: Greg And Alison Blake Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire timing? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I assume that includes vacuum advance, which many racers would not use. I have always assumed that the vacuum advance is really a fuel economy improvement device and that it would not ever come into play at full throttle. Duncan (Texas) > On Jun 2, 2015, at 5:01 PM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: > > Not a spitfire guy but 48???? WOW that seems really high. > > My TR3 race motor likes 30. It's never been on a Dyno so I am sure I am leaving some power unused, but I don't melt Pistons or hammer bearings either. > > >> On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Bud Rolofson wrote: >> >> Amici, >> >> What timing setting are you Spitfire racers using? I've seen suggestions from 32 degrees total advance to 48. >> Thanks >> Bud >> >> Sent from Vail pass 10881 ft elevation. Will be back home in a couple hours from our Utah National Park tour in the RV. >> >> >> Sent from my Commodore 64 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 16:56:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F3F62585408 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:56:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from internal.dunnwalshholdings.com (internal.dunnwalshholdings.com [206.176.247.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF842584BFF for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 16:56:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c]) by TITAN.dwholdings.local ([fe80::6cea:93a1:26a:8c3c%15]) with mapi; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:56:25 -0700 From: Edward Dunn To: FOT Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 15:56:23 -0700 Thread-Topic: [Fot] Spitfire timing? Thread-Index: AdCdhwtl1oyB/aq0Tj6sDBtf1BpIMQAABu+g References: <94AA7993-1E6A-4B50-9EE6-F41C368100B5@comcast.net> <4A5B8B94-C7FE-45D0-8F6D-77242104FFE3@austin.rr.com> <4BF415B7-BE14-4AE9-B5F9-82EF9BF6355E@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire timing? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0581996810948083127== Content-Language: en-US boundary="_004_36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB04E8CB462F0CTITANdwhold_"; type="multipart/alternative" --_004_36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB04E8CB462F0CTITANdwhold_ boundary="_000_36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB04E8CB462F0CTITANdwhold_" --_000_36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB04E8CB462F0CTITANdwhold_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My 1147 is at 36 degrees. Edward Dunn Quality Fuel Trailer and Tank Inc. 1390 N. McDowell Blvd. Suite G-283 Petaluma, CA 94954 707-509-5577 x 7012 800-509-1904 [cid:image001.jpg@01D09D4C.AC9BA060] -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Duncan Charlton Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 3:54 PM To: Greg And Alison Blake Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire timing? I assume that includes vacuum advance, which many racers would not use. I = have always assumed that the vacuum advance is really a fuel economy improv= ement device and that it would not ever come into play at full throttle. Duncan (Texas) > On Jun 2, 2015, at 5:01 PM, Greg And Alison Blake > wrote: > > Not a spitfire guy but 48???? WOW that seems really high. > > My TR3 race motor likes 30. It's never been on a Dyno so I am sure I am l= eaving some power unused, but I don't melt Pistons or hammer bearings eithe= r. > > evilevi@comcast.net>> wrote: >> >> Amici, >> >> What timing setting are you Spitfire racers using? I've seen suggestions= from 32 degrees total advance to 48. >> Thanks >> Bud >> >> Sent from Vail pass 10881 ft elevation. Will be back home in a couple ho= urs from our Utah National Park tour in the RV. >> >> >> Sent from my Commodore 64 >> _______________________________________________ >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@au= stin.rr.com >> >> > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.char= lton54@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive fueltrailers.com --_000_36946218D9EC344498D59FD515FE20FB04E8CB462F0CTITANdwhold_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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I assume t= hat includes vacuum advance, which many racers would not use.  I have = always assumed that the vacuum advance is really a fuel economy improvement= device and that it would not ever come into play at full throttle.

 

Duncan

(Texas)

 

> On Jun 2= , 2015, at 5:01 PM, Greg And Alison Blake <ablake2@a= ustin.rr.com> wrote:

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> Not a spitfire guy but = 48????  WOW that seems really high.

> 

> My TR3 race motor= likes 30. It's never been on a Dyno so I am sure I am leaving some power u= nused, but I don't melt Pistons or hammer bearings either.

> 

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>> On Jun 2, 2015, at 12= :57 PM, Bud Rolofson <levilevi@comcast.net= > wrote:

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>> Amici,

>> 

>> What t= iming setting are you Spitfire racers using? I've seen suggestions from 32 = degrees total advance to 48.

>>= Thanks

>> Bud

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= >> Sent from Vail pass 10881 ft elevation. Will be back home in a cou= ple hours from our Utah National Park tour in the RV.

>> 

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Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0581996810948083127==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 17:19:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B14258577F for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 17:19:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f177.google.com (mail-lb0-f177.google.com [209.85.217.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6101F25850E3 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 17:14:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbcmx3 with SMTP id mx3so114196520lbc.1 for ; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 16:14:18 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=xpr+GFBwvYTG8y7OuhiLIMXq3WPhNENpBxYuxXGbmTI=; b=tPzdHxObMYgaViJour+mIZsqzRvDkFPMtNtaXop8lHzCmbYCdsBLDLpRJ5PIDTWBAe qiRW5JmQRLN+7tgknaoRtq3PCtQhyY94PwnT7l5OeGsaNJESS/BHWEWJePJ3GlgWY1pT LzS+iAOoYKtXQzLPVEhjWD1BwnSoo8a8TZrOp8QQJjLtB+T8BxSrYZeyH3TCaedqiZn3 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Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2139268231357651132== --001a11c36c96112bfb0517911a6d Ignition timing is decided by the quality of the gasoline provided to the engine and the elimination of detonation. With 100 octane you would not dare use more than 30 degrees with a TR-3,4 full race engine, but with 110-113 generally provided by the race management for sale (be sure to ask) then another couple degrees is certainly reasonable and there will be a power improvement. Maybe even a little more timing than that if you have not yet optimized your compression ratio. If you wait to* hear *detonation, chances are you will be to late to save the engine from some damage. Detonation occurrence is the determination of how much ignition advance you can safely use regardless of the engine type, style or manufacture. CLEAN spark plugs and a high rev shut off will tell you about all that. Oh yeah, here is old Kas again ranting on about checking the spark plugs. *Never be beaten by equipment.* On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Duncan Charlton wrote: > I assume that includes vacuum advance, which many racers would not use. I > have always assumed that the vacuum advance is really a fuel economy > improvement device and that it would not ever come into play at full > throttle. > > Duncan > (Texas) > > > On Jun 2, 2015, at 5:01 PM, Greg And Alison Blake > wrote: > > > > Not a spitfire guy but 48???? WOW that seems really high. > > > > My TR3 race motor likes 30. It's never been on a Dyno so I am sure I am > leaving some power unused, but I don't melt Pistons or hammer bearings > either. > > > > > >> On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > >> > >> Amici, > >> > >> What timing setting are you Spitfire racers using? I've seen > suggestions from 32 degrees total advance to 48. > >> Thanks > >> Bud > >> > >> Sent from Vail pass 10881 ft elevation. Will be back home in a couple > hours from our Utah National Park tour in the RV. > >> > >> > >> Sent from my Commodore 64 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com > > > --001a11c36c96112bfb0517911a6d Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ignition timing is decided by the quality of the gaso= line provided to the engine and the elimination of detonation. With 100 oct= ane you would not dare use more than 30 degrees with a TR-3,4=C2=A0 full ra= ce engine, but with 110-113 generally provided by the race management for s= ale (be sure to ask) then another couple degrees is certainly reasonable an= d there will be a power improvement. Maybe even a little more timing=C2=A0t= han that if you have not yet optimized your compression ratio. If you wait = to hear detonation, chances are you will be to la= te to save the engine from some damage.

Detonation= occurrence=C2=A0is the determination of how much ignition advance you can = safely use regardless of the engine type, style or manufacture. CLEAN spark= plugs and a high rev shut off will tell you about all that.

=
Oh yeah, here is old Kas again ranting on about checking the spa= rk plugs.

Never be beat= en by equipment.


On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Duncan Charl= ton <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com> wrote:
I assume that includes vacuum advance, which many = racers would not use.=C2=A0 I have always assumed that the vacuum advance i= s really a fuel economy improvement device and that it would not ever come = into play at full throttle.

Duncan
(Texas)

> On Jun 2, 2015, at 5:01 PM, Greg And Alison Blake <ablake2@austin.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Not a spitfire guy but 48????=C2=A0 WOW that seems really high.
>
> My TR3 race motor likes 30. It's never been on a Dyno so I am sure= I am leaving some power unused, but I don't melt Pistons or hammer bea= rings either.
>
>
>> On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Bud Rolofson <levilevi@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Amici,
>>
>> What timing setting are you Spitfire racers using? I've seen s= uggestions from 32 degrees total advance to 48.
>> Thanks
>> Bud
>>
>> Sent from Vail pass 10881 ft elevation. Will be back home in a cou= ple hours from our Utah National Park tour in the RV.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Commodore 64
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--001a11c36c96112bfb0517911a6d-- --===============2139268231357651132== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2139268231357651132==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 19:26:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A660258614F for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 19:26:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.161]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684D4258560F for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 19:06:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-19v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.243]) by resqmta-po-02v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id bd5t1q0025FMDhs01d5uob; Wed, 03 Jun 2015 01:05:54 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2601:1:9700:aa6:4dde:a38d:aa06:b9c6] ([IPv6:2601:1:9700:aa6:4dde:a38d:aa06:b9c6]) by resomta-po-19v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id bd5t1q0054ZT7TZ01d5t0l; Wed, 03 Jun 2015 01:05:54 +0000 From: Bud R Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 19:05:52 -0600 References: <94AA7993-1E6A-4B50-9EE6-F41C368100B5@comcast.net> To: FOT s=q20140121; t=1433293554; bh=w4u503ke5jfz59fk/IvBIgwkBRMFmdW4XJ+aea8Ob7Q=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=r9jfY1dCsxhjzoKl9h1gfAYFR42E8PFg/d3cVVJfHJ7RhDRVLisvxSSoo4ua/X7hG lOMfG0ib4Z3+9mB48vQEigVjGB0Q5/DAQp1bEHpw7AHLcG1u9ZAo7wMNAXNwyK0JVb FzLUiLVa98YSPCnRVXf+vfRyaINKFt8xhzukmTKTD9w/cBfqFj+AnJciPSbZ/tpuCL HOpWMfeb2g6hiP+OxqjSWUQFuMHNlAZUCmN8nbCOIOcxZxfTVMEN3VL7A6V0YZXGpi /68ujOBAlJHau9hr2smx3NuG7I9EFiSZ65Nj6aexnBI17ys3ZWw9pWhHg7Op58ApI/ cUVJyrv783ivw== Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire timing? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2361524621839513257== --Apple-Mail=_2982D6B4-9DD4-46BB-96B7-B8E917E75213 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=windows-1252 Thanks for all the comments on timing. The source of the 48 timing number indicated that was a typo and they = meant 38 degrees total advance and going down from there until no = detonation. Sorry about that. I was just curious as Kas=92 spitfire competition manual says 32 max or = there will be detonation. Which is where I have it set now with no = detonation. The car is going on the dyno on Tuesday so hopefully once the carb (DCOE = 40) is dialed in we will get the timing to where the engine likes it = best. Thanks Bud Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle=20 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > Amici, >=20 > What timing setting are you Spitfire racers using? I've seen = suggestions from 32 degrees total advance to 48.=20 > Thanks > Bud >=20 > Sent from Vail pass 10881 ft elevation. Will be back home in a couple = hours from our Utah National Park tour in the RV. >=20 >=20 > Sent from my Commodore 64 --Apple-Mail=_2982D6B4-9DD4-46BB-96B7-B8E917E75213 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=windows-1252
Thanks for all the comments on = timing.

The source of the 48 timing number indicated = that was a typo and they meant 38 degrees total advance and going down = from there until no detonation. Sorry about that.

I = was just curious as Kas=92  spitfire competition manual says 32 max = or there will be detonation. Which is where I have it set now with no = detonation.

The car is going on the dyno on = Tuesday so hopefully once the carb (DCOE 40) is dialed in we will get = the timing to where the engine likes it = best.

Thanks
Bud



Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)

71TR6 CC57365 (Good = 6)
71 Spitfire MK IV = Race Car #3
69 Spitfire MK III = (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 
77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda = Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)












On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Bud Rolofson <levilevi@comcast.net> = wrote:

Amici,

What timing setting are you Spitfire racers = using? I've seen suggestions from 32 degrees total advance to 48. =
Thanks
Bud

Sent from Vail pass 10881 ft elevation. Will be = back home in a couple hours from our Utah National Park tour in the = RV.


Sent from my Commodore = 64

= --Apple-Mail=_2982D6B4-9DD4-46BB-96B7-B8E917E75213-- --===============2361524621839513257== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2361524621839513257==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 19:40:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F6025854AA for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 19:40:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CB225859CC for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 19:20:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-18v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.242]) by resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id bdKW1q0015E3ZMc01dLANU; Wed, 03 Jun 2015 01:20:10 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2601:1:9700:aa6:4dde:a38d:aa06:b9c6] ([IPv6:2601:1:9700:aa6:4dde:a38d:aa06:b9c6]) by resomta-po-18v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id bdL91q00R4ZT7TZ01dLA4a; Wed, 03 Jun 2015 01:20:10 +0000 From: Bud R Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 19:20:09 -0600 References: <94AA7993-1E6A-4B50-9EE6-F41C368100B5@comcast.net> <4A5B8B94-C7FE-45D0-8F6D-77242104FFE3@austin.rr.com> <4BF415B7-BE14-4AE9-B5F9-82EF9BF6355E@gmail.com> To: Kas Kastner s=q20140121; t=1433294410; bh=qxLV0+WoFfS87dJGEoKemPTCJDFGzmZWyy1YDtdee4g=; h=Received:Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=aDqQvq02kECLsiQLlTTJtkxt7picNkYmTaX5wIbJqgCoDNVVE697/j2c2FFApy4iy ddKl8GjhWVa3hJOFC7nDm49e6oBg7DtDVO1OD9AB1tYFv7+9nuI51zMb4PuqboVD2d u2Re/UwM3XcKxRwTUfzaZF1GIC1eVi3Pz2aqyC2qRPz4zG/gfUg8GqbB2/yGiqYutY ReTtWdikGK1KiccADzVrYX9EurOiATUczkpHAqQlpHBON1A9okigHELJT5e4Epj1O/ E6HZsUZs9aP6JWEEI3J2jhadrLPz9xHbkEzWAOeQnWJ3yphTVhUGZXy4wVfl6qwwf0 CO1zzyKaKbckw== Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire timing? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8110779567980212526== --Apple-Mail=_6F9ED575-BFD6-4C92-ACE1-841D27FE1F7D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=windows-1252 Thanks Kas, The idea of starting high and backing off the timing until no detonation = just didn=92t seem like a good idea to me at all. Why do that to an = engine? Thanks for affirming that is a bad idea. I=92m running 110 Sunoco, no domed pistons, and about 11.57 CR. I=92ve = got a dyno test setup so that will get it where the car runs best. Thanks Bud Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle=20 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Jun 2, 2015, at 5:13 PM, Kas Kastner wrote: > Ignition timing is decided by the quality of the gasoline provided to = the engine and the elimination of detonation. With 100 octane you would = not dare use more than 30 degrees with a TR-3,4 full race engine, but = with 110-113 generally provided by the race management for sale (be sure = to ask) then another couple degrees is certainly reasonable and there = will be a power improvement. Maybe even a little more timing than that = if you have not yet optimized your compression ratio. If you wait to = hear detonation, chances are you will be to late to save the engine from = some damage. >=20 > Detonation occurrence is the determination of how much ignition = advance you can safely use regardless of the engine type, style or = manufacture. CLEAN spark plugs and a high rev shut off will tell you = about all that. >=20 > Oh yeah, here is old Kas again ranting on about checking the spark = plugs. >=20 > Never be beaten by equipment. >=20 >=20 > On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Duncan Charlton = wrote: > I assume that includes vacuum advance, which many racers would not = use. I have always assumed that the vacuum advance is really a fuel = economy improvement device and that it would not ever come into play at = full throttle. >=20 > Duncan > (Texas) >=20 > > On Jun 2, 2015, at 5:01 PM, Greg And Alison Blake = wrote: > > > > Not a spitfire guy but 48???? WOW that seems really high. > > > > My TR3 race motor likes 30. It's never been on a Dyno so I am sure I = am leaving some power unused, but I don't melt Pistons or hammer = bearings either. > > > > > >> On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Bud Rolofson = wrote: > >> > >> Amici, > >> > >> What timing setting are you Spitfire racers using? I've seen = suggestions from 32 degrees total advance to 48. > >> Thanks > >> Bud > >> > >> Sent from Vail pass 10881 ft elevation. Will be back home in a = couple hours from our Utah National Park tour in the RV. > >> > >> > >> Sent from my Commodore 64 > >> _______________________________________________ > >> fot@autox.team.net > >> > >> http://www.fot-racing.com > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com > > > > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_6F9ED575-BFD6-4C92-ACE1-841D27FE1F7D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=windows-1252 Thanks = Kas,

The idea of starting high and backing off the = timing until no detonation just didn=92t seem like a good idea to me at = all. Why do that to an engine? Thanks for affirming that is a bad = idea.
I=92m running 110 Sunoco, no domed pistons, and about = 11.57 CR. I=92ve got a dyno test setup so that will get it where the car = runs best.

Thanks
Bud

Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)

71TR6 CC57365 (Good = 6)
71 Spitfire MK IV = Race Car #3
69 Spitfire MK III = (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 
77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda = Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)


On Jun 2, 2015, = at 5:13 PM, Kas Kastner <kaskastner@gmail.com> = wrote:

Ignition timing is decided by the = quality of the gasoline provided to the engine and the elimination of = detonation. With 100 octane you would not dare use more than 30 degrees = with a TR-3,4  full race engine, but with 110-113 generally = provided by the race management for sale (be sure to ask) then another = couple degrees is certainly reasonable and there will be a power = improvement. Maybe even a little more timing than that if you have = not yet optimized your compression ratio. If you wait to = hear detonation, chances are you will be to late to = save the engine from some damage.

Detonation = occurrence is the determination of how much ignition advance you = can safely use regardless of the engine type, style or manufacture. = CLEAN spark plugs and a high rev shut off will tell you about all = that.

Oh yeah, here is old Kas again ranting on = about checking the spark plugs.

Never be beaten by = equipment.


On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Duncan = Charlton <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com> = wrote:
I assume that includes = vacuum advance, which many racers would not use.  I have always = assumed that the vacuum advance is really a fuel economy improvement = device and that it would not ever come into play at full throttle.

Duncan
(Texas)

> On Jun 2, 2015, at 5:01 PM, Greg And Alison Blake <ablake2@austin.rr.com> = wrote:
>
> Not a spitfire guy but 48????  WOW that seems really high.
>
> My TR3 race motor likes 30. It's never been on a Dyno so I am sure = I am leaving some power unused, but I don't melt Pistons or hammer = bearings either.
>
>
>> On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:57 PM, Bud Rolofson <levilevi@comcast.net> = wrote:
>>
>> Amici,
>>
>> What timing setting are you Spitfire racers using? I've seen = suggestions from 32 degrees total advance to 48.
>> Thanks
>> Bud
>>
>> Sent from Vail pass 10881 ft elevation. Will be back home in a = couple hours from our Utah National Park tour in the RV.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Commodore 64
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= --Apple-Mail=_6F9ED575-BFD6-4C92-ACE1-841D27FE1F7D-- --===============8110779567980212526== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8110779567980212526==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 20:07:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF24225853FC for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 20:07:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D592584F6A for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 20:07:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-18v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.242]) by resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id be711q0075E3ZMc01e7G4G; Wed, 03 Jun 2015 02:07:16 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2601:7:880:469:8d37:ba6c:eb0c:f700] ([IPv6:2601:7:880:469:8d37:ba6c:eb0c:f700]) by resomta-po-18v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id be7D1q0022uKcJP01e7Fy0; Wed, 03 Jun 2015 02:07:15 +0000 Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 19:07:13 -0700 From: Jim Norlin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <94AA7993-1E6A-4B50-9EE6-F41C368100B5@comcast.net> s=q20140121; t=1433297236; bh=XtVlsFdsMSbu3eqrAx0e4SxPoqknud1U/bLhAoNuto8=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=sRv83EeTM4rhp25hu6Q8d5a0QB1TtFZ1yk3fucj1Ytdc/JLJ3b99DkXdC6b1gwOIq 2jTVXvA50+qqGfD3qrXL/U/OQgyX5FWK/x0Ssh+gaLNrGvODZ91TiC42bhdo7Laq1U cqJZ2BmA8pFA+wdv2Z3ZmuiC7BYESIDkz/L+7D7Z0iDHyGYz43EH3S1u7DIdGyBMQe NlV1SDpTtrsq2TFRxvhVeIATDRLlWQ1hnkDuBg4v5Iz//+421xdmfzLUy8JpjelBJf 1fmt9KsRPVpSpl40XWHBbUgQxAZe9LVAvGC1f5CyYUI7Wul2pG8V7TkmUGREFXXLAl 4iJzHwE/OF26w== Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire timing? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1096427882396640526== boundary="------------010107070607060602030601" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010107070607060602030601 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm going off of memory from the last dyno run which is always a dangerous thing - memory, not the dyno. Our 1300 is prepped to SCCA HP limited prep rules - 11:1 compression, Kastner A8 cam, Sunoco 110 leaded fuel. We made initial pulls at 36 degrees and then played around a bit. We made slightly more power by advancing up to 42 degrees but we all agreed (engine builder, dyno operator and me) that backing back down into the 30's in the interest of engine reliability made sense. I think we ended up at 38, but it may have been 36. Guess I ought to check, but then the engine is out of the car right now. BTW, in my opinion, chassis dyno time with an experienced operator is the cheapest horsepower and best assurance that your timing and A/F mixture is set right. Jim On 6/2/2015 6:05 PM, Bud R wrote: > Thanks for all the comments on timing. > > The source of the 48 timing number indicated that was a typo and they > meant 38 degrees total advance and going down from there until no > detonation. Sorry about that. > > I was just curious as Kas’ spitfire competition manual says 32 max or > there will be detonation. Which is where I have it set now with no > detonation. > > The car is going on the dyno on Tuesday so hopefully once the carb > (DCOE 40) is dialed in we will get the timing to where the engine > likes it best. > > Thanks > Bud > > > > Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) > > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) > 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle > 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Bud Rolofson >> Amici, >> >> What timing setting are you Spitfire racers using? I've seen >> suggestions from 32 degrees total advance to 48. >> Thanks >> Bud >> >> Sent from Vail pass 10881 ft elevation. Will be back home in a couple >> hours from our Utah National Park tour in the RV. >> >> >> Sent from my Commodore 64 > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/norlinengineering@comcast.net > > --------------010107070607060602030601 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I'm going off of memory from the last dyno run which is always a dangerous thing - memory, not the dyno.

Our 1300 is prepped to SCCA HP limited prep rules - 11:1 compression, Kastner A8 cam, Sunoco 110 leaded fuel.  We made initial pulls at 36 degrees and then played around a bit.  We made slightly more power by advancing up to 42 degrees but we all agreed (engine builder, dyno operator and me) that backing back down into the 30's in the interest of engine reliability made sense.  I think we ended up at 38, but it may have been 36.  Guess I ought to check, but then the engine is out of the car right now.

BTW, in my opinion, chassis dyno time with an experienced operator is the cheapest horsepower and best assurance that your timing and A/F mixture is set right.  

Jim



On 6/2/2015 6:05 PM, Bud R wrote:
Thanks for all the comments on timing.

The source of the 48 timing number indicated that was a typo and they meant 38 degrees total advance and going down from there until no detonation. Sorry about that.

I was just curious as Kas’  spitfire competition manual says 32 max or there will be detonation. Which is where I have it set now with no detonation.

The car is going on the dyno on Tuesday so hopefully once the carb (DCOE 40) is dialed in we will get the timing to where the engine likes it best.

Thanks
Bud



Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)

71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 
77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)












On Jun 2, 2015, at 11:57 AM, Bud Rolofson <levilevi@comcast.net> wrote:

Amici,

What timing setting are you Spitfire racers using? I've seen suggestions from 32 degrees total advance to 48.
Thanks
Bud

Sent from Vail pass 10881 ft elevation. Will be back home in a couple hours from our Utah National Park tour in the RV.


Sent from my Commodore 64



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--------------010107070607060602030601-- --===============1096427882396640526== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1096427882396640526==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 21:09:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D9B2585A4B for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 21:09:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f180.google.com (mail-ig0-f180.google.com [209.85.213.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFCD125852D7 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 21:09:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by igbhj9 with SMTP id hj9so101950223igb.1 for ; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 20:09:30 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=xo9KlqrG/F7IYmdlM0ZkeKgdlX0cTcRljaXAtrTeQHc=; b=EOKkP41Gi3ujs5EznKOTQfHRZYCheHTZJkF6sNLLMAFiEe9uCbZRAwxLcaHMSrqkdw OTpycT+3/R6KpWnVC6CPXtKagwuiWM+9Xn4YfBmi8f2JHaIKahJ5nbk1i/Jr0EgR8Xq7 8zTcz/ohQhKAlQu4w3/5m/O5JddBDl2D8Q4l1aHor1FvijdQkzoq8aoINbv+CTl9jvDb mpj6ucE9cV2X1Ugo1yT2GdYCK1uW2b7w8wDRq+JtNBTbhWPy3Wb+qU9+KXQldBM+zj6V kf80YzkkYocnGiSEaJ8/LOsi1gMi4VlBAtrzLNv16BcqkgnsJ7T/XQacocw9QwCRhhOU JCyA== 02 Jun 2015 20:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.118.215 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 20:08:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2015 20:08:50 -0700 To: Friends Subject: [Fot] Need help with PI -- no fuel to injectors Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6605762447245439449== --089e0122e764379a9e05179463cd Just did some work on the car -- replacing thrust washers and rear main seal. Took engine out to do repairs as the thrust washers are pinned in. Removed the drive unit and pi assembly, but did not remove head or timing cover . Put engine on a stand upside down. Put all back together, installed everything. Engine would not start. Timing correct. Valve timing correct. Checked injectors, number two was leaking all the time even when the fuel pump was on, even with no engine rotation/starting attempt. Couple other injectors were not injecting at all and a couple were spraying fine. Ig removed number two banjo bolt and replaced the two o-rings. Reinstalled. Checked injectors and now none were spraying -- was not even any pulsing in the lines. Removed PI unit and disassembled the metering unit. Movable stop came out fine, shuttle and fixed stop did not. Removed number one injector hose inlet and rotated the rotor till I could see the hole. Blew in some compressed air and the movable stop came out. No shuttle. Strange. Removed the drive unit and holding plate and pushed the shuttle out. I had put the pieces together wrong at least two years ago -- do not know how the car ever ran as well as it did! Put the pieces back together correctly, reinstalled and tested. Still no pulsor gas. Check fuel pressure -- good, checked to see gas was actually coming into the metering unit -- good. So now I am stumped -- what is keeping the unit from functioning? --089e0122e764379a9e05179463cd Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just did some work on the car -- replacing thrust wa= shers and rear main seal.=C2=A0 Took engine out to do repairs as the thrust= washers are pinned in.=C2=A0 Removed the drive unit and pi assembly, but d= id not remove head or timing cover .=C2=A0 Put engine on a stand upside dow= n.=C2=A0 Put all back together, installed everything.=C2=A0 Engine would no= t start.=C2=A0 Timing correct.=C2=A0 Valve timing correct.=C2=A0 Checked in= jectors, number two was leaking all the time even when the fuel pump was on= , even with no engine rotation/starting attempt.=C2=A0 Couple other injecto= rs were not injecting at all and a couple were spraying fine.=C2=A0 Ig remo= ved number two banjo bolt and replaced the two o-rings.=C2=A0 Reinstalled.= =C2=A0 Checked injectors and now none were spraying -- was not even any pul= sing in the lines.

Removed PI unit and disassem= bled the metering unit.=C2=A0 Movable stop came out fine, shuttle and fixed= stop did not.=C2=A0 Removed number one injector hose inlet and rotated the= rotor till I could see the hole.=C2=A0 Blew in some compressed air and the= movable stop came out.=C2=A0 No shuttle.=C2=A0 Strange.=C2=A0 Removed the = drive unit and holding plate and pushed the shuttle out.=C2=A0 I had put th= e pieces together wrong at least two years ago -- do not know how the car e= ver ran as well as it did!

Put the pieces back t= ogether correctly, reinstalled and tested.=C2=A0 Still no pulsor gas.
=

Check fuel pressure -- good, checked to see gas was a= ctually coming into the metering unit -- good.=C2=A0 So now I am stumped --= what is keeping the unit from functioning?
--089e0122e764379a9e05179463cd-- --===============6605762447245439449== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6605762447245439449==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 21:34:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 672482585E7C for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 21:34:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p01c11o144.mxlogic.net (p01c11o144.mxlogic.net [208.65.144.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742E1258570B for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 21:29:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO xcentric.com.outbound10.mxlogic.net) by p01c11o144.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.4.0-1) with ESMTP id 0847e655.2abb3e616940.700668.00-538.1862918.p01c11o144.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Tue, 02 Jun 2015 21:29:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO xcentric.com.outbound10.mxlogic.net) by p01c11o144.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.4.0-1) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id d747e655.0.700663.00-282.1862887.p01c11o144.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Tue, 02 Jun 2015 21:29:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::dc8d:98d4:a80c:1957]) by ATLPEXCAS03.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 23:29:01 -0400 From: John Hasty To: Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley Thread-Topic: [Fot] Need help with PI -- no fuel to injectors Thread-Index: AQHQnaq9qw2zJATFFEqwUOrDL++hjZ2aH4em Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 03:29:01 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-exclaimer-md-config: cee22798-72e9-40a9-949b-68671b12e107 Cc: Friends Subject: Re: [Fot] Need help with PI -- no fuel to injectors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Injectors? Sent from my iPhone Just did some work on the car -- replacing thrust washers and rear main seal. Took engine out to do repairs as the thrust washers are pinned in. Removed the drive unit and pi assembly, but did not remove head or timing cover . Put engine on a stand upside down. Put all back together, installed everything. Engine would not start. Timing correct. Valve timing correct. Checked injectors, number two was leaking all the time even when the fuel pump was on, even with no engine rotation/starting attempt. Couple other injectors were not injecting at all and a couple were spraying fine. Ig removed number two banjo bolt and replaced the two o-rings. Reinstalled. Checked injectors and now none were spraying -- was not even any pulsing in the lines. Removed PI unit and disassembled the metering unit. Movable stop came out fine, shuttle and fixed stop did not. Removed number one injector hose inlet and rotated the rotor till I could see the hole. Blew in some compressed air and the movable stop came out. No shuttle. Strange. Removed the drive unit and holding plate and pushed the shuttle out. I had put the pieces together wrong at least two years ago -- do not know how the car ever ran as well as it did! Put the pieces back together correctly, reinstalled and tested. Still no pulsor gas. Check fuel pressure -- good, checked to see gas was actually coming into the metering unit -- good. So now I am stumped -- what is keeping the unit from functioning? _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 2 21:49:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1BEF2585EAD for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 21:49:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 721F72585A03 for ; Tue, 2 Jun 2015 21:43:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 17124 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jun 2015 03:43:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw4) (10.0.90.85) by gproxy2.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 3 Jun 2015 03:43:09 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw4 with id blbs1q00W1NzpT901lbvl0; Wed, 03 Jun 2015 03:35:57 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=vMvCflnOSPkWcizgKizuPA==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=ojRePYIazggA:10 a=XAFQembCKUMA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=vEspJLaZeZ0h3HpPF_sA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 Received: from [173.31.224.109] (port=62011 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Yzza3-00032n-6e; Tue, 02 Jun 2015 21:43:03 -0600 Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2015 22:42:54 -0500 To: Greg And Alison Blake , Amici Triumphi From: Tony Drews References: {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.224.109 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] IRS diff overheating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm not running an IRS, and my diff is Ford 8", but I ran into an interesting thing with the vent line. I'd puke a bunch of gear lube out of the vent. I put it in a catch can and would put a bunch of gear lube into the catch can. I ended up plumbing the vent into the BOTTOM of the catch can so that the oil would run back into the diff between sessions. Totally solved that particular problem. If you puke out the oil, it can't lubricate the diff. I'm running a detroit locker, plate type LSD's generate much more heat. Cheers, Tony At 12:40 PM 6/2/2015, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: >Some of yall may have followed the social Media posts provided by >our teammates through the weekend. We were racing the Beanitos TR6 >this past weekend at what was to be TWS's last ever race. It was a >split 16 hour endurance race (Sat&Sun). > >We had a strange failure on Saturday. About 6 hours in, the truck >was full of gear oil. I had routed a diff vent line to the trunk. >Upon returning to the garage, we discovered melted poly diff mounts. >Pic below. > >I've been scratching my head on this one. Prior to boiling the diff >fluid, we had zero leaks in the freshly serviced diff. I had >replaced all seals and filled with STALUBE 90WT GL4. > >I've been racing my TR3 using this same diff fluid for 6 years >(replaced every two weekends). Never a problem with my vintage race >car. Of course, I've never run the 3 for 6 hours straight. > >Some of the more seasoned endurance racers asked what fluid I had in >the diff. All suggested that mineral based fluid is not a good >choice for endurance events. > >I'd love to hear opinions as to the route cause of our failure and >more importantly, suggested remedies. > >As to the results, the car was running consistently 2:1x laps with a >fast lap of 2:10. We ended up taking the workers choice award. Had >we run w/o diff failure and a subsequent battery failure, we could >have been in the hunt for a podium finish. Fastest lap in our group was 2:09.9 > >Great weekend > > > > > >Thanks >Greg >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 3 01:08:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E2F92584FDD for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 01:08:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f49.google.com (mail-wg0-f49.google.com [74.125.82.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98EEF2580160 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 01:08:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wgez8 with SMTP id z8so1053799wge.0 for ; Wed, 03 Jun 2015 00:08:06 -0700 (PDT) d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=F1YZlRlV8IO7QMPR3HW/8oQ2zOxSrWerl97nFd09E0A=; b=xC2gZIpiR2nB+jkx+f8olwo7ZGrQMVj3r1eQuzQKbtfiwNj+isnb2aregvYhpeQTk9 ikWaZQAbcKZ2dV1KshjoUt8llLWOGmpyJudR78JFRVTtezQJuzUaTeUiq3KwJKQ+SfTf Fq/cLxjBQtkpd+Le7m4rCAhFapqWrBIJLTW74WCeGCfihEerdzwzSeAvKeZ1qqY8The4 NgXL0pjYooJoU4+2gyLwnxp30bbu79NLOfgQGp4NIhF1DZ74x1B4sOartjT90Fw3W6zv 5NS58Y0BiaG/UIYeww15fVrqrZzV4pyQ9lGa6VVcL/FfWCx0iK1CHMsgmFf+Ce32aFyh 8grA== Wed, 03 Jun 2015 00:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.162.236.107]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hu1sm203395wib.6.2015.06.03.00.08.02 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Jun 2015 00:08:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'Fot'" References: <20150603034927.4EFB92585EC2@autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 09:08:08 +0200 Thread-Index: AdCdsErjbKW9EYLPQhGnYb5d5TIPnAAG13bw Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] IRS diff overheating Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net The TR8 uses also a Ford axle. The vent hose is attached to the left axle tube so on right hand corners the oil climbs into the vent tube. The trick is to put the catch tank on the right side of the car. No problems with it. LSD is a Yukon Posi. Cheers Chris -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von Tony Drews Gesendet: Mittwoch, 3. Juni 2015 05:43 An: Greg And Alison Blake; Amici Triumphi Betreff: Re: [Fot] IRS diff overheating I'm not running an IRS, and my diff is Ford 8", but I ran into an interesting thing with the vent line. I'd puke a bunch of gear lube out of the vent. I put it in a catch can and would put a bunch of gear lube into the catch can. I ended up plumbing the vent into the BOTTOM of the catch can so that the oil would run back into the diff between sessions. Totally solved that particular problem. If you puke out the oil, it can't lubricate the diff. I'm running a detroit locker, plate type LSD's generate much more heat. Cheers, Tony _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive eam.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 3 01:33:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0DB2585D5D for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 01:33:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from andre.telenet-ops.be (andre.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2D32584CD6 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 01:33:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([IPv6:2a02:1812:d1c:7a00:1955:131c:9d3d:dce1]) by andre.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id bjZ01q00D4B2rjG01jZ3Mo; Wed, 03 Jun 2015 09:33:04 +0200 From: "Marcel Van Mulders" To: "'Bill Babcock'" References: <762F2C1A-5181-4210-8FD1-54C4FA6B7A0C@ponostyle.com> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 09:32:55 +0200 Thread-Index: AdCdhFArwsb7C6EJTx+p4+KTzB5jCwASUdcQ Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] IRS diff overheating Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2739846222165857200== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003F_01D09DE0.4586C640" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01D09DE0.4586C640 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I got a diff cover with really big fins from Racetorations (Darryl Uprichard) some 10 years ago and it's a big difference in cooling and = oil capacity. In 2011 I ran a new 1:4.33 crown and pinion, and this diff = cover was mounted, yet the diff oil got very hot and escaped through the axle seals. Since then I use to check the T=B0 of the diff casing after races = and practices. I ran 4.1 / 3.9 / 4.33 / 4.55 ratio's since 2011 and experienced so far that the crownwheel/pinions in the diff housing made = up for most of the T=B0 rising. With an original old Triumph 4.1 crownwheel/pinion the diff housing stayed really cool. Worst is my 4.33 ratio. I suppose, the friction between pinion and crownwheel, and hence the = heat generated, can be very different depending on manufacturing, assembling = of the parts, running in of the diff.. Marcel _____ =20 Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Bill Babcock Verzonden: woensdag 3 juni 2015 0:32 Aan: Keith Files CC: FOT Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] IRS diff overheating I don=92t know if you=92ve seen the diff cover on Peyote. I don=92t = remember where I got it, but it sure solved my diff overheating problems. If nothing = else the sheer mass of aluminum helps, but it=92s deeply finned. I=92ve put = temp sensing paint on it a few times and the outside of the cover never gets above 170F. the cast steel banjo never gets above 180F. I doubt the oil gets much above 250=97there=92s none of toasty sulfur smell when I drain = it. =20 On Jun 2, 2015, at 2:19 PM, Keith Files = wrote: We use a diff cooler to avoid the problem on the TR6, a lot cheaper than continual rebuilds of the diff. I ran with one doing 3 hours of the Nurburgring Nordschleife a couple of years ago, it worked perfectly. Keith Sent from my iPad On 2 Jun 2015, at 20:01, Kas Kastner wrote: I had failure of all three cars at Sebring with the IRS cars. In = practices the diffs overheated and puked oil out the breather tub as you describe. = I laid part of it to a new diff but most to the heat generated by a disc = type limited slip. The capacity of the diff is marginal for endurance = running. Add to the capacity or add a cooler.=20 Never be beaten by equipment. On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: Some of yall may have followed the social Media posts provided by our teammates through the weekend. We were racing the Beanitos TR6 this past weekend at what was to be TWS's last ever race. It was a split 16 hour endurance race (Sat&Sun). We had a strange failure on Saturday. About 6 hours in, the truck was = full of gear oil. I had routed a diff vent line to the trunk. Upon returning = to the garage, we discovered melted poly diff mounts. Pic below. I've been scratching my head on this one. Prior to boiling the diff = fluid, we had zero leaks in the freshly serviced diff. I had replaced all seals = and filled with STALUBE 90WT GL4. I've been racing my TR3 using this same diff fluid for 6 years (replaced every two weekends). Never a problem with my vintage race car. Of = course, I've never run the 3 for 6 hours straight. Some of the more seasoned endurance racers asked what fluid I had in the diff. All suggested that mineral based fluid is not a good choice for endurance events. I'd love to hear opinions as to the route cause of our failure and more importantly, suggested remedies. As to the results, the car was running consistently 2:1x laps with a = fast lap of 2:10. We ended up taking the workers choice award. Had we run w/o diff failure and a subsequent battery failure, we could have been in the hunt for a podium finish. Fastest lap in our group was 2:09.9 Great weekend Thanks Greg _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com =20 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com =20 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/keithfiles@btinternet.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill@ponostyle.com Bill Babcock Bill@ponostyle.com Editor: Ponostyle Celebrating Water Editor: Xtreme Geezer Fitness and Fun After Forty 503.936.7660 http://www.PonoStyle.com http://www.Xgeez.com ------=_NextPart_000_003F_01D09DE0.4586C640 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I got a diff cover with really big fins from=20 Racetorations (Darryl Uprichard) some 10 years ago and it's a big = difference in=20 cooling and oil capacity. In 2011 I ran a new 1:4.33 crown and pinion, = and this=20 diff cover was mounted, yet the diff oil got very hot and escaped = through the=20 axle seals. Since then I use to check the T=B0 of the diff casing after = races and=20 practices. I ran 4.1  /  3.9  /  4.33  / 4.55 = ratio's=20 since 2011 and experienced so far that the crownwheel/pinions in the = diff=20 housing made up for most of the T=B0 rising. With an original old = Triumph 4.1=20 crownwheel/pinion the diff housing stayed really cool. Worst is my 4.33=20 ratio.
I suppose, the friction between pinion and = crownwheel,=20 and hence the heat generated, can be very different depending on=20 manufacturing, assembling of the parts, running in of the=20 diff..
Marcel

Van: Fot = [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net]=20 Namens Bill Babcock
Verzonden: woensdag 3 juni 2015=20 0:32
Aan: Keith Files
CC: FOT
Onderwerp: = Re: [Fot]=20 IRS diff overheating

I don=92t know if you=92ve seen the diff cover on Peyote. I = don=92t=20 remember where I got it, but it sure solved my diff overheating = problems. If=20 nothing else the sheer mass of aluminum helps, but it=92s deeply finned. = I=92ve put=20 temp sensing paint on it a few times and the outside of the cover never = gets=20 above 170F. the cast steel banjo never gets above 180F.  I doubt = the oil=20 gets much above 250=97there=92s none of toasty sulfur smell when I drain = it. 

On Jun 2, 2015, at 2:19 PM, Keith Files <keithfiles@btinternet.com&g= t;=20 wrote:

We use a diff cooler to avoid the problem on the TR6, a lot = cheaper than=20 continual rebuilds of the diff. I ran with one doing 3 hours of the=20 Nurburgring Nordschleife a couple of years ago, it worked = perfectly.

Keith

Sent from my iPad

On 2 Jun 2015, at 20:01, Kas Kastner <kaskastner@gmail.com>=20 wrote:

I had failure of all three cars at Sebring with the = IRS cars.=20 In practices the diffs overheated and puked oil out the breather tub = as you=20 describe. I laid part of it to a new diff but most to the heat = generated by=20 a disc type limited slip. The capacity of the diff is marginal for = endurance=20 running. Add to the  capacity or add a = cooler. 

Never be beaten by=20 equipment.


On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Greg And = Alison=20 Blake <ablake2@austin.rr.com> wrote:
Some=20 of yall may have followed the social Media posts provided by our = teammates=20 through the weekend. We were racing the Beanitos TR6 this past = weekend at=20 what was to be TWS's last ever race. It was a split 16 hour = endurance race=20 (Sat&Sun).

We had a strange failure on Saturday. About = 6 hours=20 in, the truck was full of gear oil. I had routed a diff vent line = to the=20 trunk. Upon returning to the garage, we discovered melted poly = diff=20 mounts. Pic below.

I've been scratching my head on this = one. Prior=20 to boiling the diff fluid, we had zero leaks in the freshly = serviced diff.=20 I had replaced all seals and filled with STALUBE 90WT = GL4.

I've=20 been racing my TR3 using this same diff fluid for 6 years = (replaced every=20 two weekends). Never a problem with my vintage race car. Of = course, I've=20 never run the 3 for 6 hours straight.

Some of the more = seasoned=20 endurance racers asked what fluid I had in the diff. All suggested = that=20 mineral based fluid is not a good choice for endurance = events.

I'd=20 love to hear opinions as to the route cause of our failure and = more=20 importantly, suggested remedies.

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Lang" To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, Better late than never, right? Here's a few laps from the Kastner Cup, 2015 edition. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dTeOwnwGQo Feel free to "share". FWIW, I had an awesome time!! Lots of fun. Turns out my "smoke" was a blown head gasket. The gasket eroded into the lifter gallery. Then it was oil "everywhere". Go figure. And that stud that mysteriously fell off the car after I parked it in the trailer. What's up with that? c ya, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 3 07:32:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A49E25862DA for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 07:32:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26BB32586165 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 07:30:26 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge02 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [166.172.120.59] ([166.172.120.59:14309] helo=[10.33.40.52]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 15/9A-12775-2710F655; Wed, 03 Jun 2015 13:30:27 +0000 References: From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 08:30:24 -0500 To: Amici Triumphi Subject: Re: [Fot] IRS diff overheating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Got some great feedback on this one. Such a great list. Just wish I knew before last weekend about this failure mode. We could have turned another 200+ laps. One follow up. Is there a down side to overfilling an IRS diff unit? I am thinking I'll install a metal catch can in the trunk and plumb to the bottom of the can. Would putting in another 1/2 quart into the diff aid in cooling or just get puked out earlier? If that's not an option, I'll investigate adding a bit of capacity to the cover along with a few fins. Thanks. > On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: > > Some of yall may have followed the social Media posts provided by our teammates through the weekend. We were racing the Beanitos TR6 this past weekend at what was to be TWS's last ever race. It was a split 16 hour endurance race (Sat&Sun). > > We had a strange failure on Saturday. About 6 hours in, the truck was full of gear oil. I had routed a diff vent line to the trunk. Upon returning to the garage, we discovered melted poly diff mounts. Pic below. > > I've been scratching my head on this one. Prior to boiling the diff fluid, we had zero leaks in the freshly serviced diff. I had replaced all seals and filled with STALUBE 90WT GL4. > > I've been racing my TR3 using this same diff fluid for 6 years (replaced every two weekends). Never a problem with my vintage race car. Of course, I've never run the 3 for 6 hours straight. > > Some of the more seasoned endurance racers asked what fluid I had in the diff. All suggested that mineral based fluid is not a good choice for endurance events. > > I'd love to hear opinions as to the route cause of our failure and more importantly, suggested remedies. > > As to the results, the car was running consistently 2:1x laps with a fast lap of 2:10. We ended up taking the workers choice award. Had we run w/o diff failure and a subsequent battery failure, we could have been in the hunt for a podium finish. Fastest lap in our group was 2:09.9 > > Great weekend > > > > > Thanks > Greg > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 3 08:38:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE8A258621C for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 08:38:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f41.google.com (mail-qg0-f41.google.com [209.85.192.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F432585835 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 08:37:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by qgfa63 with SMTP id a63so4542188qgf.0 for ; Wed, 03 Jun 2015 07:37:58 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=lUJqNO/8lynrIFp1om/49LZkExQmcx2mMTxElJXcA10=; b=GX3ozgzt66VprowSlFCGTB6FvWh5Cq+QT4/pmI7bBd78aLs7xMytJqYgl7NrC7g/It 3Vj24TPFqtOIxMiTAueTLu2e7svXB6BrE//mzr1wbt5xkEcbBAqOoZBfjeL0JyoGDnZX lqmwUiA2f+rWAn6BZqWbM/3pyMJl+QJHZd/Zb9n7GQo8pgVaTCPOymlZTtY6P5AXVRr3 FMl1hFw1O4K6J2Vi6sEaI5b5T7fckVzhmolzBn+O307gOPMaq9IynlSossrstAoeu0sV D9UHw92ag+EverkfEK71Oj7E24mhpKS/o9HMW83e8iA9B1KwYb6EZ8Pj1jT7uYMwKpK4 rrdA== Wed, 03 Jun 2015 07:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.11] (cpe-75-178-72-5.ec.res.rr.com. [75.178.72.5]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b191sm459164qka.14.2015.06.03.07.37.57 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Jun 2015 07:37:57 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Chip Collingwood Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 10:37:56 -0400 To: Greg And Alison Blake Cc: Amici Triumphi Subject: Re: [Fot] IRS diff overheating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I would recommend the oil cooler route. We had a modified half shaft with mechanical pump and belt. It sometimes spit the belt. An electric setup would be the best choice given you run an alternator. I don't believe adding capacity will get you where you need to be Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 3, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: > > > Got some great feedback on this one. Such a great list. Just wish I knew before last weekend about this failure mode. We could have turned another 200+ laps. > > One follow up. Is there a down side to overfilling an IRS diff unit? I am thinking I'll install a metal catch can in the trunk and plumb to the bottom of the can. Would putting in another 1/2 quart into the diff aid in cooling or just get puked out earlier? If that's not an option, I'll investigate adding a bit of capacity to the cover along with a few fins. > > Thanks. > > >> On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: >> >> Some of yall may have followed the social Media posts provided by our teammates through the weekend. We were racing the Beanitos TR6 this past weekend at what was to be TWS's last ever race. It was a split 16 hour endurance race (Sat&Sun). >> >> We had a strange failure on Saturday. About 6 hours in, the truck was full of gear oil. I had routed a diff vent line to the trunk. Upon returning to the garage, we discovered melted poly diff mounts. Pic below. >> >> I've been scratching my head on this one. Prior to boiling the diff fluid, we had zero leaks in the freshly serviced diff. I had replaced all seals and filled with STALUBE 90WT GL4. >> >> I've been racing my TR3 using this same diff fluid for 6 years (replaced every two weekends). Never a problem with my vintage race car. Of course, I've never run the 3 for 6 hours straight. >> >> Some of the more seasoned endurance racers asked what fluid I had in the diff. All suggested that mineral based fluid is not a good choice for endurance events. >> >> I'd love to hear opinions as to the route cause of our failure and more importantly, suggested remedies. >> >> As to the results, the car was running consistently 2:1x laps with a fast lap of 2:10. We ended up taking the workers choice award. Had we run w/o diff failure and a subsequent battery failure, we could have been in the hunt for a podium finish. Fastest lap in our group was 2:09.9 >> >> Great weekend >> >> >> >> >> Thanks >> Greg >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chip@theukmotorsports.com > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 3 08:42:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5392586408 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 08:42:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f170.google.com (mail-qc0-f170.google.com [209.85.216.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 515D325804B5 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 08:41:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by qcxw10 with SMTP id w10so4766546qcx.3 for ; Wed, 03 Jun 2015 07:41:55 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=IEAAxmjl/KlZyi25mMyfgWqMZZ4tOl20JLxaDVlg/3c=; b=NW1l+qlI8vvCUi2fGa9OgYY+CB+Ii8tS5sarr2ETsY8ntOwxJ6Aiq6ZnopiAvgMz9Y aCUbsghYQUO89S1HR1mwblEXFF7+Rp8/QcQcOfy7Xylb3WulYpLrrY6JYIEqiOwKULIW uzE3KfIQsVKHYcuIdIe3f/y/ArSI02ukHVBT9hynpAM1fAc7a1UCvndWjsExOEUYRp5M Nr70BXEj7v8GnnFC2/HwUaSaKmuQgrcPuJwZp8LQbf+lyOgWjx1mpJCf9pd+j/huwwtA Ow56LzZoOqM2Y5AEN/oRLEGejw/V1CHNvLzHkIYQuwC1LnmX9aHUrDoXQagHb2PdEl+f pPbg== Wed, 03 Jun 2015 07:41:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.11] (cpe-75-178-72-5.ec.res.rr.com. [75.178.72.5]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p90sm465829qkp.27.2015.06.03.07.41.54 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Jun 2015 07:41:54 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Chip Collingwood Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 10:41:53 -0400 To: Greg And Alison Blake Cc: Amici Triumphi Subject: Re: [Fot] IRS diff overheating Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Don't overfill the diff, it is designed to run in a shallow amount of fluid, not in a bath. Definitely use synthetic as it will run cooler Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 3, 2015, at 9:30 AM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: > > > Got some great feedback on this one. Such a great list. Just wish I knew before last weekend about this failure mode. We could have turned another 200+ laps. > > One follow up. Is there a down side to overfilling an IRS diff unit? I am thinking I'll install a metal catch can in the trunk and plumb to the bottom of the can. Would putting in another 1/2 quart into the diff aid in cooling or just get puked out earlier? If that's not an option, I'll investigate adding a bit of capacity to the cover along with a few fins. > > Thanks. > > >> On Jun 2, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: >> >> Some of yall may have followed the social Media posts provided by our teammates through the weekend. We were racing the Beanitos TR6 this past weekend at what was to be TWS's last ever race. It was a split 16 hour endurance race (Sat&Sun). >> >> We had a strange failure on Saturday. About 6 hours in, the truck was full of gear oil. I had routed a diff vent line to the trunk. Upon returning to the garage, we discovered melted poly diff mounts. Pic below. >> >> I've been scratching my head on this one. Prior to boiling the diff fluid, we had zero leaks in the freshly serviced diff. I had replaced all seals and filled with STALUBE 90WT GL4. >> >> I've been racing my TR3 using this same diff fluid for 6 years (replaced every two weekends). Never a problem with my vintage race car. Of course, I've never run the 3 for 6 hours straight. >> >> Some of the more seasoned endurance racers asked what fluid I had in the diff. All suggested that mineral based fluid is not a good choice for endurance events. >> >> I'd love to hear opinions as to the route cause of our failure and more importantly, suggested remedies. >> >> As to the results, the car was running consistently 2:1x laps with a fast lap of 2:10. We ended up taking the workers choice award. Had we run w/o diff failure and a subsequent battery failure, we could have been in the hunt for a podium finish. 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Subject: Re: [Fot] Need help with PI -- no fuel to injectors Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============5823173640330853744== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01D09E01.E9066250" Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01D09E01.E9066250 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In theory, the Lucas injector pump is pretty simple. I would think = either the rotor is not turning or the shuttle is not moving. I = can=E2=80=99t think of why you get no fuel other than that. To have all = six nozzles plugged would be unlikely but not improbable if there is = dirt in the lines. =20 Tim Murphy =20 P.S. This is based on my TR5 experience. =20 From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Arnold = and/or Kathleen Kelley Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 10:09 PM To: Friends Subject: [Fot] Need help with PI -- no fuel to injectors =20 Just did some work on the car -- replacing thrust washers and rear main = seal. Took engine out to do repairs as the thrust washers are pinned = in. Removed the drive unit and pi assembly, but did not remove head or = timing cover . Put engine on a stand upside down. Put all back = together, installed everything. Engine would not start. Timing = correct. Valve timing correct. Checked injectors, number two was = leaking all the time even when the fuel pump was on, even with no engine = rotation/starting attempt. Couple other injectors were not injecting at = all and a couple were spraying fine. Ig removed number two banjo bolt = and replaced the two o-rings. Reinstalled. Checked injectors and now = none were spraying -- was not even any pulsing in the lines. =20 Removed PI unit and disassembled the metering unit. Movable stop came = out fine, shuttle and fixed stop did not. Removed number one injector = hose inlet and rotated the rotor till I could see the hole. Blew in = some compressed air and the movable stop came out. No shuttle. = Strange. Removed the drive unit and holding plate and pushed the = shuttle out. I had put the pieces together wrong at least two years ago = -- do not know how the car ever ran as well as it did! =20 Put the pieces back together correctly, reinstalled and tested. Still = no pulsor gas. =20 Check fuel pressure -- good, checked to see gas was actually coming into = the metering unit -- good. So now I am stumped -- what is keeping the = unit from functioning? ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01D09E01.E9066250 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In theory, the Lucas injector pump is pretty simple.=C2=A0 I would = think either the rotor is not turning or the shuttle is not = moving.=C2=A0 I can=E2=80=99t think of why you get no fuel other than = that.=C2=A0 To have all six nozzles plugged would be unlikely but not = improbable if there is dirt in the lines.

 

Tim Murphy

 

P.S. This is based on my TR5 experience.

 

From:= = Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chuck Arnold = and/or Kathleen Kelley
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2015 10:09 = PM
To: Friends
Subject: [Fot] Need help with PI -- = no fuel to injectors

 

Just did = some work on the car -- replacing thrust washers and rear main = seal.  Took engine out to do repairs as the thrust washers are = pinned in.  Removed the drive unit and pi assembly, but did not = remove head or timing cover .  Put engine on a stand upside = down.  Put all back together, installed everything.  Engine = would not start.  Timing correct.  Valve timing correct.  = Checked injectors, number two was leaking all the time even when the = fuel pump was on, even with no engine rotation/starting attempt.  = Couple other injectors were not injecting at all and a couple were = spraying fine.  Ig removed number two banjo bolt and replaced the = two o-rings.  Reinstalled.  Checked injectors and now none = were spraying -- was not even any pulsing in the = lines.

 

Removed PI unit and disassembled = the metering unit.  Movable stop came out fine, shuttle and fixed = stop did not.  Removed number one injector hose inlet and rotated = the rotor till I could see the hole.  Blew in some compressed air = and the movable stop came out.  No shuttle.  Strange.  = Removed the drive unit and holding plate and pushed the shuttle = out.  I had put the pieces together wrong at least two years ago -- = do not know how the car ever ran as well as it = did!

 

Put the pieces back together = correctly, reinstalled and tested.  Still no pulsor = gas.

 

Check fuel pressure -- good, = checked to see gas was actually coming into the metering unit -- = good.  So now I am stumped -- what is keeping the unit from = functioning?

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Hi all.
=C2=A0 I am in need of a GT6 rear c= ompetition spring. This is for a MK2.=C2=A0 I was hoping someone might have= a spare they would be willing to part with. I have tried stiffening the st= ock spring by adding leaves which worked fine for stiffness but the thing g= ot so thick that I can't lower the car down to where it needs to be. Th= is is a rotoflex car so I don't know if the Spitfire spring will work o= r not but I'm sure you all=C2=A0=C2=A0will know.
=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Thanks. Pat
--bcaec5161a83990fb90517a4cdf0-- --===============6593494537995906164== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6593494537995906164==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 3 17:35:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5521725862D3 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 17:35:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (omr-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE3C2585EB0 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 17:34:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aan01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aan01.mx.aol.com [172.27.19.79]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7FE8D7054CCC0; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 19:34:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mja09g.mail.aol.com (core-mja09.mail.aol.com [172.27.32.9]) by mtaomg-aan01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4944138000082; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 19:34:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 74.209.22.240 by webprd-m88.mail.aol.com (10.74.71.99) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 03 Jun 2015 19:34:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 19:34:03 -0400 From: "Andrew S. Mace" To: mark@bradakis.com, Triumphs@autox.team.net, FOT@autox.team.net References: <556D252B.5040705@bradakis.com> x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1433374444; bh=4D7s+Tqr7RfeJ0N6LloilM6PHDfNzS2BXcua+fLTPjo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NE7oNHOcNY7N/qi8jm2VfHJqNXztoWZqvzn5ouctP6M5EINpugDlrLDkLmm/P9yhK AIhoDQJjcNYptq1hdwROFSdYXWsNi5TV44BOmxoGoQSIYsf1uSA9MnIGqEKpJcIUNh 4Nmix/1r5qnlwOHc9/ixzR1+echBVL+YT3cLvDVA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b134f556f8eec1731 Subject: Re: [Fot] [TR] A white, solid axle 4A .... who, me? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6979417229658458522== boundary="----=_Part_15274_962131801.1433374443879" ------=_Part_15274_962131801.1433374443879 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Indeed, the rust has finally made it (from deep inside) to the surface. :( --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us -----Original Message----- From: Mark J Bradakis To: Triumphs ; Friends of Triumph Sent: Tue, Jun 2, 2015 2:01 am Subject: [TR] A white, solid axle 4A .... who, me? Uh, surface rust?? http://www.ksl.com/auto/listing/2194781?ad_cid=1@aol.com ------=_Part_15274_962131801.1433374443879 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Indeed, the rust has finally made it (from deep inside) to the surface. :(

--Andy Mace

*Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet?
*Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings.
-- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22)

Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org

Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us


-----Original Message-----
From: Mark J Bradakis <mark@bradakis.com>
To: Triumphs <Triumphs@autox.team.net>; Friends of Triumph <FOT@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jun 2, 2015 2:01 am
Subject: [TR] A white, solid axle 4A .... who, me?

 ------=_Part_15274_962131801.1433374443879-- --===============6979417229658458522== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6979417229658458522==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 3 20:07:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66F325867ED for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 20:07:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f43.google.com (mail-pa0-f43.google.com [209.85.220.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D0B52585F74 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 20:07:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by payr10 with SMTP id r10so19024495pay.1 for ; Wed, 03 Jun 2015 19:07:30 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GoPamYHZtsS04jS+kBPAYwSrj7xEuWYlM1NXk8kXxCQ=; b=Y6HxJk/FAkL7vO9RLQklqrk8aLM+yhhSJ/2fZg2K1u4FrMrnHVhAhM463YwtN9QrOA KmN9CEBuaxOc+Fb7HyK/k6FPoBrNtPnTU9fWoIbAgamr3zre0fU2fYDbwFqHgv/rZgeS zB4OaCi+MNdFU9Ih8sOTD2xfyO3OR1mkY3xINuKh2p0uwP5CuSfc1rLLwHDTd7vgMWWs pJMdvDbrmUUs7C5OVbF6PFMGwUksGUueLOvIhPUoENpWUUgzwXf64Vx1LiA2sUPIWUuB 8eidHOeINpQ8EaIUEeDAaPjBP1C6850/a9MUuPOidStbklV+kl2xPIlbqawT0zzw0ri8 nM0A== Wed, 03 Jun 2015 19:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.218.164 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 19:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 21:07:30 -0500 From: Jason Ostrowski To: triumph friends Subject: [Fot] missing man honor Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3758414230680454587== --047d7b2e080949ec5c0517a7a394 Good evening my Triumph Friends. As you know, last October we lost a good friend; Bob Wismer. Bob was a true racer, a true friend, and a good man... rich in character in so many ways. North Suburban Sports Car Club and The Midwestern Council of Sports Car Clubs will salute his racing life with our highest honor. Bob Wismer will lead his final race this weekend at Blackhawk Farms. With distinction and due respect, Bob will be Honored as The Missing Man at pole position for his group on Sunday. Anyone wishing to Salute the man will be welcome to Stand in mourning along the front straight at the track he raced so many times throughout his racing career. A fitting tribute to man who loved to race. So many wonderful cars he drove. So many lives he made better. So many races he raced. This weekend at Blackhawk Farms... There will be no car and there will be no man, The Missing Man... an empty spot at the front of the pack where Bob will always be; racing with us until the end of time. This weekend He is the best, He is the fastest. He is our Missing Man. GODSPEED Bob Wismer! On behalf of Midwestern Sports Car Clubs and North Suburban Sports Car Club, Jason Ostrowski NSSCC Race Chairman --047d7b2e080949ec5c0517a7a394 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good evening my Triumph Friends.
As you kno= w, last October we lost a good friend;
Bob Wismer.
Bob= was a true racer, a true friend, and a good man... rich in=C2=A0character = in so many ways.
North Suburban Sports Car Club and=C2=A0The Midw= estern Council of Sports Car Clubs will=C2=A0salute his racing life with=C2= =A0our highest honor.
Bob Wismer will lead his final race this we= ekend at Blackhawk Farms.
With distinction and due respect, Bob w= ill be Honored as The Missing Man at pole position for his group on Sunday.=
Anyone wishing to Salute the man will be welcome to Stand in mou= rning along the front straight at the track he raced so many times througho= ut his racing career.
A fitting tribute to man=C2=A0who loved to= race.
So many wonderful cars he drove.
So many lives = he made better.
So many races he raced.
This weekend at= Blackhawk Farms...
There will be no car and there will be=C2=A0n= o man, =C2=A0
The Missing Man...
=C2=A0an empty spot at= the front of the pack where Bob will always be;
racing with us
until the end of time.
This weekend He is the best, He i= s the fastest.
He is our Missing Man.
GODSPEED Bob Wism= er!

On behalf of Midwestern Sports Car Clubs=C2=A0= and North Suburban Sports Car Club,
Jason Ostrowski
NSS= CC Race Chairman
--047d7b2e080949ec5c0517a7a394-- --===============3758414230680454587== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3758414230680454587==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 3 21:43:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18356258781F for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 21:43:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f178.google.com (mail-ie0-f178.google.com [209.85.223.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4B2258761A for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 21:42:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iesa3 with SMTP id a3so27845808ies.2 for ; Wed, 03 Jun 2015 20:42:39 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=fX07aEyVr7QSZnXXhOJOs004qphSnRNyN1iz4F0Erg0=; b=I3LB2iy0kD1RBXZ1LO1aPMRccmlBGXwgK89Yb7Dbw/m2pkPrfCkIuDZf8RXfzlrVbz L0WNxRKNDKqz2Nd8v8Uigc7e28fxRAPgZa5PjA4t0vxVGIgVjZGnWvtAh+GiMly5Ngo+ vrwHZM6KdRW0TaFvlNBGQ/Pv3PG+kJyGwq6u9lxSlrZu3WrWyrMVbE102gR/VsZwGdCm ZNip6BjHBWfdn0MjAbu0TJyk5if1r2AViApunkunJh0UO1qP20EBtSET+2NKU/Ayqst3 EAYQXckHebTqR6JIDmwS02OdEOcd3b9lmT+BulXie6pY7UhtydMQDX4ztC734wmt8j9a T7CQ== 03 Jun 2015 20:42:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.118.215 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 20:41:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Chuck Arnold and/or Kathleen Kelley" Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2015 20:41:58 -0700 To: Friends , Oilywragg overdrive Subject: [Fot] PI woes, continued Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3632471571410126073== --90e6ba5bc5f59303ee0517a8f742 Everything back together. Can feel pulsing in the injector lines, but no injector is spraying gas. Leads me to believe there is not enough pressure. Therre is a full 120 lbs going into the metering unit. I am beginning to think too much is going back to the tank. What controls the pressure such that it does not just flow around the rotor and go back to the tank. Any other thoughts. Am going to attempt to measure the pressure at the injectors tomorrow -- any thoughts or help with that idea? Thanks, Chuck --90e6ba5bc5f59303ee0517a8f742 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Everything back together.=C2=A0 Can feel pulsing in = the injector lines, but no injector is spraying gas.=C2=A0 Leads me to beli= eve there is not enough pressure.=C2=A0 Therre is a full 120 lbs going into= the metering unit.=C2=A0 I am beginning to think too much is going back to= the tank.
What controls the pressure such that it does not just= flow around the rotor and go back to the tank.

= Any other thoughts.=C2=A0 Am going to attempt to measure the pressure at th= e injectors tomorrow -- any thoughts or help with that idea?
Thanks,

Chuck
--90e6ba5bc5f59303ee0517a8f742-- --===============3632471571410126073== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3632471571410126073==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 3 23:07:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C7D258791C for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 23:07:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35493258784C for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 23:02:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.30] (ool-4574ac83.dyn.optonline.net [69.116.172.131]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0NPE0001UM0P9N90@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 04 Jun 2015 01:02:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 01:02:48 -0400 From: Todd Redmond To: Jason Ostrowski References: Cc: triumph friends Subject: Re: [Fot] missing man honor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That is wonderful! Well done. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 3, 2015, at 10:07 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > > Good evening my Triumph Friends. > As you know, last October we lost a good friend; > Bob Wismer. > Bob was a true racer, a true friend, and a good man... rich in character in so many ways. > North Suburban Sports Car Club and The Midwestern Council of Sports Car Clubs will salute his racing life with our highest honor. > Bob Wismer will lead his final race this weekend at Blackhawk Farms. > With distinction and due respect, Bob will be Honored as The Missing Man at pole position for his group on Sunday. > Anyone wishing to Salute the man will be welcome to Stand in mourning along the front straight at the track he raced so many times throughout his racing career. > A fitting tribute to man who loved to race. > So many wonderful cars he drove. > So many lives he made better. > So many races he raced. > This weekend at Blackhawk Farms... > There will be no car and there will be no man, > The Missing Man... > an empty spot at the front of the pack where Bob will always be; > racing with us > until the end of time. > This weekend He is the best, He is the fastest. > He is our Missing Man. > GODSPEED Bob Wismer! > > On behalf of Midwestern Sports Car Clubs and North Suburban Sports Car Club, > Jason Ostrowski > NSSCC Race Chairman > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 3 23:54:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A1A2587A6F for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 23:54:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EDBF25879B5 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 23:54:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6502C01D3 for ; Wed, 3 Jun 2015 23:54:30 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2015 23:54:30 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1 To: triumph friends References: Subject: Re: [Fot] missing man honor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Often I am glad that I am cold hearted, unemotional bastard and stuff like this has no effect on me. None whatsoever. None. None at all. mjb. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 4 00:07:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C443E25878B5 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2015 00:07:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [70.40.196.235]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E93F42587698 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2015 00:01:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 20547 invoked by uid 0); 4 Jun 2015 06:01:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy7.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 4 Jun 2015 06:01:28 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw3 with id cBuY1q00H1NzpT901BubrY; Thu, 04 Jun 2015 05:54:35 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=vMvCflnOSPkWcizgKizuPA==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=ojRePYIazggA:10 a=XAFQembCKUMA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=yMcFLeOjmxysFWsR6GoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=psXREZS0v_AA:10 Received: from [173.31.224.109] (port=58626 helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0ODU-0006uv-3p; Thu, 04 Jun 2015 00:01:24 -0600 Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2015 01:01:20 -0500 To: Mark J Bradakis ,triumph friends From: Tony Drews References: <556FE816.5010106@bradakis.com> {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.224.109 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: Re: [Fot] missing man honor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yeah, choked me up too. Tony Drews At 12:54 AM 6/4/2015, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >Often I am glad that I am cold hearted, unemotional bastard and >stuff like this has >no effect on me. None whatsoever. None. None at all. > >mjb. > > >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tony@tonydrews.com > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 4 04:40:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6688F2587BFF for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2015 04:40:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from DUB004-OMC2S1.hotmail.com (dub004-omc2s1.hotmail.com [157.55.1.140]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AD392585F5A for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2015 04:39:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DUB128-W69 ([157.55.1.136]) by DUB004-OMC2S1.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Thu, 4 Jun 2015 03:39:55 -0700 From: John To: "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 10:39:54 +0000 Importance: Normal References: FILETIME=[CBB3CD30:01D09EB2] Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 DVD Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3802292916314217514== boundary="_c9bfad72-96a4-41cf-8057-8825dc492531_" --_c9bfad72-96a4-41cf-8057-8825dc492531_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just wanted to give you all an update with regards to the progress of thi= s very extensive video production. Currently I've just completed the first= rough cut and will be putting it all together and having a critical look l= ater today. It certainly looks very good in the editing software but I'm b= eing cautious because it is so big I doubt there's a computer powerful enou= gh to be able to run it through well enough to display it properly. In ord= er to do that I need to compile it=2C join it all together and watch it as = a master AVI file. The race looks terrific thanks to the use of multiple in-car cameras and th= ree track side cameras. There is a lot going on all the time and despite u= sing split screen techniques (up to four camera views concurrently) it's no= t possible to include every single piece of action that went on=2C particul= arly after the very frenetic re-start. The only part of the race that has = been edited is of all the cars lined up in the pit lane following the black= flag. And yes=2C we do see the TR6 spin off onto the tyre wall. About 150 hours solid editing time has gone into this so far. I need a vac= ation! John C. = --_c9bfad72-96a4-41cf-8057-8825dc492531_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just wanted to give you all an= update with regards to the progress of this very extensive video productio= n. =3B Currently I've just completed the first rough cut and will be pu= tting it all together and having a critical look later today. =3B It ce= rtainly looks very good in the editing software but I'm being cautious beca= use it is so big I doubt there's a computer powerful enough to be able to r= un it through well enough to display it properly. =3B In order to do th= at I need to compile it=2C join it all together and watch it as a master AV= I file.

The race looks terrific thanks to the use of multiple in-car= cameras and three track side cameras. =3B There is a lot going on all = the time and despite using split screen techniques (up to four camera views= concurrently) it's not possible to include every single piece of action th= at went on=2C particularly after the very frenetic re-start. =3B The on= ly part of the race that has been edited is of all the cars lined up in the= pit lane following the black flag. =3B And yes=2C we do see the TR6 sp= in off onto the tyre wall.

About 150 hours solid editing time has go= ne into this so far. =3B I need a vacation!

John C.
=
= --_c9bfad72-96a4-41cf-8057-8825dc492531_-- --===============3802292916314217514== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3802292916314217514==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 4 07:32:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5182C2587EE5 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2015 07:32:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m1.mx.aol.com (omr-m1.mx.aol.com [64.12.224.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93872587D92 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2015 07:31:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mcd01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mcd01.mx.aol.com [172.26.223.207]) by omr-m1.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8E18038000138; Thu, 4 Jun 2015 09:31:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mla02a.mail.aol.com (core-mla02.mail.aol.com [172.27.37.2]) by mtaomg-mcd01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5737838000081; Thu, 4 Jun 2015 09:31:52 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 09:31:52 -0400 To: alfetta95@optonline.net, jason@multivintage.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1433424712; bh=Y1oqv1alBXJgfHTDNogY/gpSZdsUGicEFGndsXSEyM8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Rgq3/sOxLZcYwG33N4jB4wV8OIpD6mGFb0pdorAqHpHWJFl96dgN7gi3z0Imxnho2 f2OJEb7BRvwkvEx7YQJOnp0lOI6/a4sd9ifquLVKkp6H2Jk7XCDKwoVu9/Mpbg3/ZP iEYTJI0+2vB0QqEBzbqI2CaVI+uzlAuS00tyAgTg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1adfcf557053486bce Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] missing man honor Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7935673392690812217== --part1_e347b.22749e60.42a1ad48_boundary Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Amici... Alas, Sunday is my dear Mother's 95th birthday, which will be celebrated with a gala party at the Brookfield Rehab Hospital and Home that afternoon. Regardless...I must find a way to be at Blackhawk Farms by noon for the start of that missing man race. I need to be there! My Mom will understand. After all, Bob Wismer and I raced together as a team for more than thirty years. For sure...I gotta be there. Hopefully, I can leave right after the race and get back to Brookfield for the very end of Mom's party. Regardless...Mom's healthy as a horse. It is far more likely that she'll have a 96th Birthday next year, than I'll have my 77th next March. She's tough. No surprise about all this. Really! The Midwestern Council of Sports Car Clubs is made up of people like that. God bless them. Bill Dentinger --part1_e347b.22749e60.42a1ad48_boundary Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Amici...

Alas, Sunday is my dear Mother's 95th birthday, which will be celebrated= with a gala party at the Brookfield Rehab Hospital and Home that afternoo= n.  Regardless...I must find a way to be at Blackhawk Farms by noon= for the start of that missing man race.  I need to be there! = My Mom will understand.  After all, Bob Wismer and I raced together= as a team for more than thirty years.  For sure...I gotta be there.<= BR>
Hopefully, I can leave right after the race and get back to Brookfield for= the very end of Mom's party.  Regardless...Mom's healthy as a horse.=   It is far more likely that she'll have a 96th Birthday next year,= than I'll have my 77th next March.  She's tough. 

No surprise about all this.  Really!  The Midwestern Council of= Sports Car Clubs is made up of people like that.  God bless them.
Bill Dentinger
 --part1_e347b.22749e60.42a1ad48_boundary-- --===============7935673392690812217== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============7935673392690812217==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 4 08:02:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE0422585AA5 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2015 08:02:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.98]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BCCA2585AA5 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2015 08:02:48 -0600 (MDT) t=1433426570; bh=CyZ+6jkr3MskLlW1if4N69FX399TDNW37S3shJ/s9A8=; h=References:In-Reply-To:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:From:Subject; b=nP0M6TEochMnevuvi09tN18BygMEaT9ldLfz6/odnth5PBgp3A4hHT4zZw5/TWywNjihAPJLyGKiji9jVkAdk8skClLv/3CgrQjtT2YM2xS2UIeEz4ojg3rgmDuJOf4eNJifs9K4sLAXlFBeEpfskozNln8vmWDDCubyWSlXPfdsU8wXLuitJzk9f0Pwd/K5iMZJL2kgbZgLIwqTw7VsLPpUvuQ/BFAJgUnVjz8pRFsd4H7TG1aLRNVCP7hOU5m7Z5m/4fGLWb+MRWHt+JvhY9EOaNvud/qaVNupL7EGlssfmiAVJMioDxXe7yInyJNq6YlKT5uU9aR4bBJZlIBMUQ== Received: from [216.39.60.181] by nm24.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2015 14:02:50 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.210] by tm17.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2015 14:02:50 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp221.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2015 14:02:50 -0000 l87jd._5sdCij6UJZ3Ul.JGApiRmAL1xFn5A1Tyo5i4talLM_iMdWgjPg0uC qTRoni316mr8Z_mWZBbhafjEz_aSLMfHBJyq0q4SOWfhynZArN89FeH8p88M uaVKp4Ipg47Sof8N5rnrJIn2WPsDLYPGJUHNWh4LwYGaLeX3qU_qVeTXwqyW dYL_PcOxtxrCBCKKofdmthhRUGSBeTX06H1kzCSouzv1jQ9hvtimwjMbj6Na VV8MgwSxEf6zdROj0Ke4WT7jxaa0lI.LzFHrypt7oOU1Dg01anyvEPLjCr.x oASxsbyqz0d2bv_EIQsalBUDn4jxYhxDfSmos8j5l.Jbb9k85RZ.Yj30LlwA QDCnu.xhorb1e8.WutgDpciwAJzaFCde_XM3cBPjLVhJQwxPF9MI3.EhjKn6 FncUf0CHkDeVKmsVu2aYSXaxk77I6oHlWmAbE4b86zvrrBmhpmr8M.Gva8VL Ep3NLhWh8nCykHMjs6nfHFIUhYHwUED97.eB80rv3 References: From: Mike Deweerd Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 10:02:47 -0400 To: John Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 DVD Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5450394639671373504== boundary=Apple-Mail-796C0060-11F4-444F-9109-C183E4A78206 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-796C0060-11F4-444F-9109-C183E4A78206 charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Your hard work is well appreciated !=20 And I know I'm looking forward to seeing it completed=20 Cheers=20 Mike=20 Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 4, 2015, at 6:39 AM, John wrote: >=20 > I just wanted to give you all an update with regards to the progress of th= is very extensive video production. Currently I've just completed the first= rough cut and will be putting it all together and having a critical look la= ter today. It certainly looks very good in the editing software but I'm bei= ng cautious because it is so big I doubt there's a computer powerful enough t= o be able to run it through well enough to display it properly. In order to= do that I need to compile it, join it all together and watch it as a master= AVI file. >=20 > The race looks terrific thanks to the use of multiple in-car cameras and t= hree track side cameras. There is a lot going on all the time and despite u= sing split screen techniques (up to four camera views concurrently) it's not= possible to include every single piece of action that went on, particularly= after the very frenetic re-start. The only part of the race that has been e= dited is of all the cars lined up in the pit lane following the black flag. = And yes, we do see the TR6 spin off onto the tyre wall. >=20 > About 150 hours solid editing time has gone into this so far. I need a va= cation! >=20 > John C. > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/deweerdm@rog= ers.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-796C0060-11F4-444F-9109-C183E4A78206 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Your hard work is well appreciated !&n= bsp;
And I know I'm looking forward to seeing it completed 
Cheers 
Mike 

Sent from my iPhone
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On Jun 4, 2015, at 6:39 AM, John <bfcc@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

I just wanted to give you all an update with regards to the= progress of this very extensive video production.  Currently I've just= completed the first rough cut and will be putting it all together and havin= g a critical look later today.  It certainly looks very good in the edi= ting software but I'm being cautious because it is so big I doubt there's a c= omputer powerful enough to be able to run it through well enough to display i= t properly.  In order to do that I need to compile it, join it all toge= ther and watch it as a master AVI file.

The race looks terrific thank= s to the use of multiple in-car cameras and three track side cameras.  T= here is a lot going on all the time and despite using split screen technique= s (up to four camera views concurrently) it's not possible to include every s= ingle piece of action that went on, particularly after the very frenetic re-= start.  The only part of the race that has been edited is of all the ca= rs lined up in the pit lane following the black flag.  And yes, we do s= ee the TR6 spin off onto the tyre wall.

About 150 hours solid editing= time has gone into this so far.  I need a vacation!

John C.
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= --Apple-Mail-796C0060-11F4-444F-9109-C183E4A78206-- --===============5450394639671373504== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5450394639671373504==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 4 12:26:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F15C25885E8 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2015 12:26:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD00E25853D9 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2015 12:24:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.225]) by resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id cJQF1q0044s37d401JQWlC; Thu, 04 Jun 2015 18:24:30 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-503v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.178.3]) by resomta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id cJQW1q00A04nC6y01JQWQU; Thu, 04 Jun 2015 18:24:30 +0000 Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 18:24:29 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Friends of Triumph Thread-Topic: first drive at Laguna in TR3 Thread-Index: nWM51ETxsKJm2RgIwL6rHB++5t9zUA== s=q20140121; t=1433442270; bh=UQPhHZxs1I0oL2q853TSqQFzdeRJ9t3jNblyrEUeKyE=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=HRTxF+4jnSAaDh9xZRyrhWK/aqoakpgzbx63O3dVOzfTnSPzkEJlNVXfi2ErYMrs/ dThlrfgPh/b7rVmx6KUyNaTUmUej/n5h2YbE53kCUd8ngiCNEsbqbzd7alZ8WksMzZ XamSzqdL1MSXpyeXs/+/5nMVd91sOVVIWKBFNhAsUuuWfGkN0xBUKP9lpeROJLZprN qO+eXc2tBvFFZ1Q0eJEZU0SY0ZU7bGOJgHTbNt61i00cpkagFVKd6MmobwEJK0tu4K lfEaxvhaAMfgHROjLGcitluz5Ow1BGt4MCuu/IqrsNcGBzcnvfOLLjyE3Ic3KS8grg 6nO3N/e4JLyTQ== Subject: [Fot] first drive at Laguna in TR3 Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4795053129532471624== boundary="----=_Part_3675628_772260728.1433442269831" ------=_Part_3675628_772260728.1433442269831 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Friends, I completed my first race at Laguna with HMSA's LSR event Tuesday and Wednesday. This is the event the Kastner Cup ran in 2011. I qualified towards the front of the pack and had some really fast machines ahead of me....Maserati Tipo 61, V8 powered Dailu Mk2, Devin Porsche Spyder, Byers-Volvo Sports Racer, Elva Mk7S. In the first warm up session on Tuesday, I had a close race with Tom Price in his ex-David Love Ferrari Testa Rossa. I made 2 passes on him going into 11, only to be over taken under power going up the main straight. I got by him for good in the qualifying race when he locked the brakes going into turn 5. I have good video of close racing with this amazing car. Stay tuned. Yesterday's final race was relatively uneventful, after I settled in behind an Alfa Sebring Spider that I could not get around. I ran a fast lap of 1:56.2 in the qualifying race, but I'm not sure if I improved on this time on Wednesday, as I haven't obtain the results. For comparison, I'm wondering what lap times the Triumph racers ran back in 2011. Anyone remember? Dave H. ------=_Part_3675628_772260728.1433442269831 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Friends,
I completed my first race at Laguna with HMSA's LSR event Tu= esday and Wednesday.  This is the event the Kastner Cup ran in 2011.
I qualified towards the front of the p= ack and had some really fast machines ahead of me....Maserati Tipo 61, V8 p= owered Dailu Mk2, Devin Porsche Spyder, Byers-Volvo Sports Racer, Elva Mk7S= .
In the first warm up session on Tue= sday, I had a close race with Tom Price in his ex-David Love Ferrari Testa = Rossa.  I made 2 passes on him going into 11, only to be over taken un= der power going up the main straight.  I got by him for good in the qu= alifying race when he locked the brakes going into turn 5.  I have goo= d video of close racing with this amazing car.  Stay tuned.

Yest= erday's final race was relatively uneventful, after I settled in behind an = Alfa Sebring Spider that I could not get around.  

I ran a fast = lap of 1:56.2 in the qualifying race, but I'm not sure if I improved on thi= s time on Wednesday, as I haven't obtain the results.

For comparison= , I'm wondering what lap times the Triumph racers ran back in 2011.  A= nyone remember?

Dave H.




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His friends in south Florida really miss him...
Glen Efinger



-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Redmond <alfetta95@optonline.net>
To: Jason Ostrowski <jason@multivintage.com>
Cc: triumph friends <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Jun 4, 2015 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] missing man honor

That is wonderful!  Well done.


Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 3, 2015, at
10:07 PM, Jason Ostrowski <jason@multivintage.com> wrote:
> 
> Good evening my
Triumph Friends.
> As you know, last October we lost a good friend;
> Bob
Wismer.
> Bob was a true racer, a true friend, and a good man... rich in
character in so many ways.
> North Suburban Sports Car Club and The Midwestern
Council of Sports Car Clubs will salute his racing life with our highest
honor.
> Bob Wismer will lead his final race this weekend at Blackhawk
Farms.
> With distinction and due respect, Bob will be Honored as The Missing
Man at pole position for his group on Sunday.
> Anyone wishing to Salute the
man will be welcome to Stand in mourning along the front straight at the track
he raced so many times throughout his racing career.
> A fitting tribute to man
who loved to race.
> So many wonderful cars he drove.
> So many lives he made
better.
> So many races he raced.
> This weekend at Blackhawk Farms...
>
There will be no car and there will be no man,  
> The Missing Man...
>  an
empty spot at the front of the pack where Bob will always be;
> racing with
us
> until the end of time.
> This weekend He is the best, He is the
fastest.
> He is our Missing Man.
> GODSPEED Bob Wismer!
> 
> On behalf of
Midwestern Sports Car Clubs and North Suburban Sports Car Club,
> Jason
Ostrowski
> NSSCC Race Chairman
>
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> fot@autox.team.net
> 
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------=_Part_30539_1480441693.1433446280631-- --===============4656213566313467015== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4656213566313467015==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 4 13:32:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2802587CDE for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2015 13:32:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4C02587762 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2015 13:32:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mab01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mab01.mx.aol.com [172.26.249.83]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id DFD9A705F2455 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2015 15:32:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-aaa05d.mail.aol.com (core-aaa05.mail.aol.com [172.26.125.5]) by mtaomg-mab01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3A76E38000082 for ; Thu, 4 Jun 2015 15:32:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 173.189.203.171 by webprd-a80.mail.aol.com (10.72.96.226) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 04 Jun 2015 15:32:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2015 15:32:52 -0400 From: Bruce Lapierre To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1433446373; bh=BCqR9BJByW8ElSVj9Syzy8UJgmNjHmM8GbLLAiUuTRg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aT59Gk5V9XsBj4v60ObRhewIRhj4uLuFWD8Q/qDh2CaH8yIL6Ru7RDBX42aSGuD44 p2r9gtb8YZ4amm9tkT7M/wFAzQHWywh79Ijpp9C8DN/v1b96G7h0v1nLQ2HPY+IW51 TEaNLqSp9D2dJcPHwcJybC3bAvnW4FehdAU534Hg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1af9535570a7e565bc Subject: Re: [Fot] missing man honor Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5867604648756896314== boundary="----=_Part_29001_60945990.1433446372840" ------=_Part_29001_60945990.1433446372840 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Way to go Jason. We should all be remembered with such reverence. What a better world it would be. -----Original Message----- From: Todd Redmond To: Jason Ostrowski Cc: triumph friends Sent: Thu, Jun 4, 2015 3:15 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] missing man honor That is wonderful! Well done. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 3, 2015, at 10:07 PM, Jason Ostrowski wrote: > > Good evening my Triumph Friends. > As you know, last October we lost a good friend; > Bob Wismer. > Bob was a true racer, a true friend, and a good man... rich in character in so many ways. > North Suburban Sports Car Club and The Midwestern Council of Sports Car Clubs will salute his racing life with our highest honor. > Bob Wismer will lead his final race this weekend at Blackhawk Farms. > With distinction and due respect, Bob will be Honored as The Missing Man at pole position for his group on Sunday. > Anyone wishing to Salute the man will be welcome to Stand in mourning along the front straight at the track he raced so many times throughout his racing career. > A fitting tribute to man who loved to race. > So many wonderful cars he drove. > So many lives he made better. > So many races he raced. > This weekend at Blackhawk Farms... > There will be no car and there will be no man, > The Missing Man... > an empty spot at the front of the pack where Bob will always be; > racing with us > until the end of time. > This weekend He is the best, He is the fastest. > He is our Missing Man. > GODSPEED Bob Wismer! > > On behalf of Midwestern Sports Car Clubs and North Suburban Sports Car Club, > Jason Ostrowski > NSSCC Race Chairman > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttr4@aol.com ------=_Part_29001_60945990.1433446372840 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Way to go Jason.  We should all be remembered with such reverence.  What a better world it would be.
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Redmond <alfetta95@optonline.net>
To: Jason Ostrowski <jason@multivintage.com>
Cc: triumph friends <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Jun 4, 2015 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] missing man honor

That is wonderful!  Well done.


Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 3, 2015, at
10:07 PM, Jason Ostrowski <jason@multivintage.com> wrote:
> 
> Good evening my
Triumph Friends.
> As you know, last October we lost a good friend;
> Bob
Wismer.
> Bob was a true racer, a true friend, and a good man... rich in
character in so many ways.
> North Suburban Sports Car Club and The Midwestern
Council of Sports Car Clubs will salute his racing life with our highest
honor.
> Bob Wismer will lead his final race this weekend at Blackhawk
Farms.
> With distinction and due respect, Bob will be Honored as The Missing
Man at pole position for his group on Sunday.
> Anyone wishing to Salute the
man will be welcome to Stand in mourning along the front straight at the track
he raced so many times throughout his racing career.
> A fitting tribute to man
who loved to race.
> So many wonderful cars he drove.
> So many lives he made
better.
> So many races he raced.
> This weekend at Blackhawk Farms...
>
There will be no car and there will be no man,  
> The Missing Man...
>  an
empty spot at the front of the pack where Bob will always be;
> racing with
us
> until the end of time.
> This weekend He is the best, He is the
fastest.
> He is our Missing Man.
> GODSPEED Bob Wismer!
> 
> On behalf of
Midwestern Sports Car Clubs and North Suburban Sports Car Club,
> Jason
Ostrowski
> NSSCC Race Chairman
>
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> fot@autox.team.net
> 
>
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> 
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> 
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In the Kastner=C2=A0Cup event at Laguna Seca in June of 20= 11, =C2=A0Mordy Dunst=C2=A0=C2=A0 was the fastest in his TR-4 with a 1.51:5= 39=C2=A0. Jerry Barker did a 1.52:118 in his Herald and Steve Belfer was a= =C2=A01.58:688 in his TR-3.

N= ever be beaten by equipment.


On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:24 AM, davehogye <= span dir=3D"ltr"><dlhogye@comcast.net> wrote:
<= div>Hello Friends,
I completed my first race at Laguna with HMSA&= #39;s LSR event Tuesday and Wednesday.=C2=A0 This is the event the Kastner = Cup ran in 2011.
I qualified towards the front of the pack and ha= d some really fast machines ahead of me....Maserati Tipo 61, V8 powered Dai= lu Mk2, Devin Porsche Spyder, Byers-Volvo Sports Racer, Elva Mk7S.
In the first warm up session on Tuesday, I had a close race with Tom Pric= e in his ex-David Love Ferrari Testa Rossa.=C2=A0 I made 2 passes on him go= ing into 11, only to be over taken under power going up the main straight.= =C2=A0 I got by him for good in the qualifying race when he locked the brak= es going into turn 5.=C2=A0 I have good video of close racing with this ama= zing car.=C2=A0 Stay tuned.

Yesterday's final = race was relatively uneventful, after I settled in behind an Alfa Sebring S= pider that I could not get around. =C2=A0

I ran a = fast lap of 1:56.2 in the qualifying race, but I'm not sure if I improv= ed on this time on Wednesday, as I haven't obtain the results.

For comparison, I'm wondering what lap times the Trium= ph racers ran back in 2011.=C2=A0 Anyone remember?

Dave H.




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Interesting that my rear brakes failed after the third lap. The brake pipe kinked and cracked. Fortunately the fronts held. But the final turn prior to the front straight was not so much fun. Had to lift and brake way too early. That's where jerry passed me on the inside. Except he couldn't hold the line and had a transient off track excursion. What fun in the rear view. He still had one great race and deservedly won the cup! M.N.Dunst Gasket Works USA, LLC Triple R Munitions, Inc. gmt-8 Pacific time 626.358.1616 voice 626.354.1591 SMS/Text 626.628.3777 fax 626.201.9471(munitions) On 06/04/15, Kas Kastner wrote: In the Kastner Cup event at Laguna Seca in June of 2011, Mordy Dunst was the fastest in his TR-4 with a 1.51:539 . Jerry Barker did a 1.52:118 in his Herald and Steve Belfer was a 1.58:688 in his TR-3. Never be beaten by equipment. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:24 AM, davehogye wrote: Hello Friends, I completed my first race at Laguna with HMSA's LSR event Tuesday and Wednesday. This is the event the Kastner Cup ran in 2011. I qualified towards the front of the pack and had some really fast machines ahead of me....Maserati Tipo 61, V8 powered Dailu Mk2, Devin Porsche Spyder, Byers-Volvo Sports Racer, Elva Mk7S. In the first warm up session on Tuesday, I had a close race with Tom Price in his ex-David Love Ferrari Testa Rossa. I made 2 passes on him going into 11, only to be over taken under power going up the main straight. I got by him for good in the qualifying race when he locked the brakes going into turn 5. I have good video of close racing with this amazing car. Stay tuned. Yesterday's final race was relatively uneventful, after I settled in behind an Alfa Sebring Spider that I could not get around. I ran a fast lap of 1:56.2 in the qualifying race, but I'm not sure if I improved on this time on Wednesday, as I haven't obtain the results. For comparison, I'm wondering what lap times the Triumph racers ran back in 2011. Anyone remember? Dave H. _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 5 10:26:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C162589249 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 10:26:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p14im-asmtp001.me.com (nk11p14im-asmtp001.me.com [17.158.72.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02D99258009C for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 10:15:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.99.30] (c-68-80-11-16.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [68.80.11.16]) by nk11p14im-asmtp001.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.35.0 64bit (built Dec 4 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NPH00DQEBTG8L00@nk11p14im-asmtp001.me.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:15:18 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.14.151,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-06-05_13:2015-06-05,2015-06-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1412110000 definitions=main-1506050209 From: Scott Janzen Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 12:15:16 -0400 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] racing windscreen for TR3 wanted Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0105850707127867640== boundary="Apple-Mail=_66CAF57E-7E88-4C8E-A29A-306A11F65F81" --Apple-Mail=_66CAF57E-7E88-4C8E-A29A-306A11F65F81 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=us-ascii I'm trying to help out someone who is not on FOT, and I'm not a TR3 guy. = Any sources and options for a racing style TR3 windscreen? I'm not sure what style he is interested in. I thought you guys just = removed them entirely?= --Apple-Mail=_66CAF57E-7E88-4C8E-A29A-306A11F65F81 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit charset=us-ascii I'm trying to help out someone who is not on FOT, and I'm not a TR3 guy.  Any sources and options for a racing style TR3 windscreen?
I'm not sure what style he is interested in.   I thought you guys just removed them entirely?
--Apple-Mail=_66CAF57E-7E88-4C8E-A29A-306A11F65F81-- --===============0105850707127867640== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0105850707127867640==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 5 11:28:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC9DA2589362 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 11:28:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29742258639F for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 11:08:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.248.153.253] ([172.248.153.253:4300] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id CD/A4-20776-597D1755; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 17:08:37 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Scott Janzen'" , "''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'" Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 10:08:39 -0700 Thread-Index: AdCfrE7c8mxhctKySiOU3taAQ717MAABanWA Subject: Re: [Fot] racing windscreen for TR3 wanted Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > I'm trying to help out someone who is not on FOT, and I'm not > a TR3 guy. Any sources and options for a racing style TR3 windscreen? Perhaps this is what he is looking for? http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=32046&SortOrder=10 IIRC though, those don't fit the original threaded holes in the early TR3 bodies. You have to drill new holes for them. -- Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 5 11:55:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DDDF2589405 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 11:55:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (ftx-008-i771.relay.mailchannels.net [50.61.143.71]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2552D25808AC for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 11:32:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from s15-dallas.accountservergroup.com (ip-10-33-12-218.us-west-2.compute.internal [10.33.12.218]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E0E4C1D097F; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 17:32:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from s15-dallas.accountservergroup.com (s15-dallas.accountservergroup.com [10.232.134.233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.4.8); Fri, 05 Jun 2015 17:32:29 +0000 Received: from ppp173-233.broadband.gorge.net ([209.216.173.233]:33536 helo=[10.0.1.183]) by s15-dallas.accountservergroup.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1Z0vTn-0008wn-UI; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 12:32:28 -0500 From: Bill Babcock Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 10:32:26 -0700 References: <62F4A2EB-131C-4CDB-91C8-74BE3A240947@me.com> To: Scott Janzen Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] racing windscreen for TR3 wanted Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2595556712315651812== --Apple-Mail=_4A9E7C7B-CD29-41D9-95FC-8FAE6E0ED641 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 There are brooklands screens available, but they are mostly for looks, = they don=E2=80=99t do much. I=E2=80=99ve seen stock windscreens cut down = to about half height with lexan in place of the glass. But simply = removing the screen entirely is the simplest and probably best option.=20= > On Jun 5, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: >=20 > I'm trying to help out someone who is not on FOT, and I'm not a TR3 = guy. Any sources and options for a racing style TR3 windscreen? > I'm not sure what style he is interested in. I thought you guys just = removed them entirely? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill@ponostyle.com >=20 >=20 Bill Babcock Bill@ponostyle.com Editor: Ponostyle Celebrating Water Editor: Xtreme Geezer Fitness and Fun After Forty 503.936.7660 http://www.PonoStyle.com http://www.Xgeez.com --Apple-Mail=_4A9E7C7B-CD29-41D9-95FC-8FAE6E0ED641 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 There are brooklands screens available, but they are mostly = for looks, they don=E2=80=99t do much. I=E2=80=99ve seen stock = windscreens cut down to about half height with lexan in place of the = glass. But simply removing the screen entirely is the simplest and = probably best option. 
On Jun 5, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Scott Janzen = <sjanzen@me.com> = wrote:

I'm trying to help = out someone who is not on FOT, and I'm not a TR3 guy.  Any sources = and options for a racing style TR3 windscreen?
I'm not = sure what style he is interested in.   I thought you guys just = removed them = entirely?
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= --Apple-Mail=_4A9E7C7B-CD29-41D9-95FC-8FAE6E0ED641-- --===============2595556712315651812== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2595556712315651812==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 5 12:42:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571F9258491A for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 12:42:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from DUB004-OMC2S35.hotmail.com (dub004-omc2s35.hotmail.com [157.55.1.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA1632580995 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 12:28:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DUB128-W95 ([157.55.1.138]) by DUB004-OMC2S35.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Fri, 5 Jun 2015 11:28:51 -0700 From: John To: "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 18:28:51 +0000 Importance: Normal References: FILETIME=[78D143C0:01D09FBD] Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 DVD Update Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4127193341332153285== boundary="_8ad1cf34-a351-4b42-b7f2-02700959bf25_" --_8ad1cf34-a351-4b42-b7f2-02700959bf25_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable More progress has been made since my last email. Right now I'm trying to e= nsure I've got everyone's name right on their captions. To that end=2C Jer= ry Barker's wife collected his trophy so can someone tell me her first name= ? If not=2C I'll have to leave it simply as 'Trophy collected by Mrs. Bark= er'. What an incredible drive Jerry had - I think it looks even more impressive = in the video. John C. = --_8ad1cf34-a351-4b42-b7f2-02700959bf25_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
More progress has been made sinc= e my last email. =3B Right now I'm trying to ensure I've got everyone's= name right on their captions. =3B To that end=2C Jerry Barker's wife c= ollected his trophy so can someone tell me her first name? =3B If not= =2C I'll have to leave it simply as 'Trophy collected by Mrs. Barker'.
<= br>What an incredible drive Jerry had - I think it looks even more impressi= ve in the video.

John C.
= --_8ad1cf34-a351-4b42-b7f2-02700959bf25_-- --===============4127193341332153285== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4127193341332153285==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 5 12:44:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C197D25895B0 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 12:44:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE10D2580995 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 12:35:29 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge03 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [166.172.123.54] ([166.172.123.54:21373] helo=[10.214.177.213]) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 09/12-32534-0FBE1755; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 18:35:32 +0000 References: <62F4A2EB-131C-4CDB-91C8-74BE3A240947@me.com> <6DC51A3A-7455-4604-8D7B-3353F14CD3DE@ponostyle.com> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 13:35:24 -0500 To: Bill Babcock Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] racing windscreen for TR3 wanted Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3991942102922335550== boundary=Apple-Mail-7085FD49-4764-4F73-A708-DEE33494C099 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-7085FD49-4764-4F73-A708-DEE33494C099 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can attest that your head and neck take a beating w/o the windscreen. I en= ded up making a rather ugly windscreen with a small piece of lexan which mad= e a surprising difference.=20 If you are going for good looks, Dave hogeye has a very nicely done windscre= en.=20 > On Jun 5, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: >=20 > There are brooklands screens available, but they are mostly for looks, the= y don=E2=80=99t do much. I=E2=80=99ve seen stock windscreens cut down to abo= ut half height with lexan in place of the glass. But simply removing the scr= een entirely is the simplest and probably best option.=20 >> On Jun 5, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: >>=20 >> I'm trying to help out someone who is not on FOT, and I'm not a TR3 guy. = Any sources and options for a racing style TR3 windscreen? >> I'm not sure what style he is interested in. I thought you guys just re= moved them entirely? >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >>=20 >> http://www.fot-racing.com >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill@ponost= yle.com >=20 > Bill Babcock > Bill@ponostyle.com > Editor: Ponostyle > Celebrating Water >=20 > Editor: Xtreme Geezer > Fitness and Fun After Forty > 503.936.7660 > http://www.PonoStyle.com > http://www.Xgeez.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@aust= in.rr.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-7085FD49-4764-4F73-A708-DEE33494C099 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I can attest that your head and neck t= ake a beating w/o the windscreen. I ended up making a rather ugly windscreen= with a small piece of lexan which made a surprising difference. 
If= you are going for good looks, Dave hogeye has a very nicely done windscreen= . 


On Jun 5, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Bill Babcock <= Bill@ponostyle.com> wrote:
<= br>
There are brooklands screens available, b= ut they are mostly for looks, they don=E2=80=99t do much. I=E2=80=99ve seen s= tock windscreens cut down to about half height with lexan in place of the gl= ass. But simply removing the screen entirely is the simplest and probably be= st option. 
On Jun 5, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com> wrote:

I'm trying to help out someone who is not on FOT, and I'm not a TR3 guy. &= nbsp;Any sources and options for a racing style TR3 windscreen?
I'm not sure what style he is interested in.   I thought you guys ju= st removed them entirely?
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= --Apple-Mail-7085FD49-4764-4F73-A708-DEE33494C099-- --===============3991942102922335550== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3991942102922335550==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 5 13:13:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7856325884D4 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 13:13:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp10.bis6.us.blackberry.com (smtp10.bis6.us.blackberry.com [74.82.85.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60A4258009C for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 12:56:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from b15.c1.bise6.blackberry ([192.168.0.115]) by srs.bis6.us.blackberry.com (8.13.7 TEAMON/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t55BQxcf029462 for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 18:56:26 GMT Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: "FOT" From: gasket.works@verizon.net Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 18:56:24 +0000 Subject: [Fot] Fw: Racing Windscreen Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5089324262121408553== --part4567-boundary-1399922916-871477522 If someone has knowledge of windscreen info respond directly to Larry. Mordy Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: Larry Brown Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 05:52:14 To: gasket.works@gte.net Subject: Racing Windscreen I am looking for a source for a Lexan racing windscreen for my TR3B. I'm close to getting the car back to as it appeared in the late 60s SCCA E Prod events sand coming up short on finding something other than a Brooklands...appreciate any leads. 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Wagner" Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 12:20:33 -0700 To: Larry Brown Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Racing Windscreen Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2726627858762018858== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit boundary=Apple-Mail-96BF313B-2BE4-4BBA-92C9-7B685ED564DB --Apple-Mail-96BF313B-2BE4-4BBA-92C9-7B685ED564DB charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have no personal experience with these, but they look cool and correct! S= ee link below. --Justin Triumph TR 2 and TR 3 Factory Option Aero Screens | eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-TR-2-and-TR-3-Factory-Option-Aero-Screens-/3= 21619221825?hash=3Ditem4ae1ffdd41&vxp=3Dmtr > On Jun 5, 2015, at 11:56 AM, gasket.works@verizon.net wrote: >=20 > If someone has knowledge of windscreen info respond directly to Larry. >=20 > Mordy > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > From: Larry Brown > Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 05:52:14 -0500 > To: gasket.works@gte.net > Subject: Racing Windscreen >=20 > I am looking for a source for a Lexan racing windscreen for my TR3B. I'm c= lose to getting the car back to as it appeared in the late 60s SCCA E Prod e= vents sand coming up short on finding something other than a Brooklands...ap= preciate any leads. Many tks, Larry > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jmwagner@gre= enheart.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-96BF313B-2BE4-4BBA-92C9-7B685ED564DB charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have no personal experience with= these, but they look cool and correct!  See link below.  --Justin=


On Ju= n 5, 2015, at 11:56 AM, gasket.w= orks@verizon.net wrote:

If someone has knowledge of windscreen info respond directly to Larry.
Mordy
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
From: Larry Brown <larryb1703@hotma= il.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 05:52:14 -0500
S= ubject: Racing Windscreen

 I a= m looking for a source for a Lexan racing windscreen for my TR3B. I'm close t= o getting the car back to as it appeared in the late 60s SCCA E Prod events s= and coming up short on finding something other than a Brooklands...appreciat= e any leads. Many tks, Larry
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= --Apple-Mail-96BF313B-2BE4-4BBA-92C9-7B685ED564DB-- --===============2726627858762018858== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2726627858762018858==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 5 13:44:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05CE258883B for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 13:44:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p14im-asmtp002.me.com (nk11p14im-asmtp002.me.com [17.158.72.161]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D763B2580489 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 13:24:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.9.104.239] (mobile-166-170-031-038.mycingular.net [166.170.31.38]) by nk11p14im-asmtp002.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.35.0 64bit (built Dec 4 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NPH005G3KKNTZ50@nk11p14im-asmtp002.me.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 19:24:25 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.14.151,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-06-05_14:2015-06-05,2015-06-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1412110000 definitions=main-1506050244 From: Scott Janzen Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 15:24:23 -0400 References: <1245546563-1433530586-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1036079191-@b15.c1.bise6.blackberry> To: "gasket.works@verizon.net" Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Fw: Racing Windscreen Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0585038696802445376== boundary=Apple-Mail-2B342DE9-40AD-4A2E-BC7B-1A4FB7D8E6C8 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-2B342DE9-40AD-4A2E-BC7B-1A4FB7D8E6C8 charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This was the same email I was asking about. Sent from my mobile device=20 On Jun 5, 2015, at 2:56 PM, gasket.works@verizon.net wrote: If someone has knowledge of windscreen info respond directly to Larry. Mordy Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From: Larry Brown Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 05:52:14 -0500 To: gasket.works@gte.net Subject: Racing Windscreen I am looking for a source for a Lexan racing windscreen for my TR3B. I'm cl= ose to getting the car back to as it appeared in the late 60s SCCA E Prod ev= ents sand coming up short on finding something other than a Brooklands...app= reciate any leads. Many tks, Larry _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --Apple-Mail-2B342DE9-40AD-4A2E-BC7B-1A4FB7D8E6C8 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
This was the same email I was asking about.

Sent from my mobile device 

On Jun 5, 2015, at 2:56 PM, gasket.works@verizon.net wrote:

If someone has knowledge of windscreen info respond directly to Larry.

Mordy
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
From: Larry Brown <larryb1703@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2015 05:52:14 -0500
Subject: Racing Windscreen

 I am looking for a source for a Lexan racing windscreen for my TR3B. I'm close to getting the car back to as it appeared in the late 60s SCCA E Prod events sand coming up short on finding something other than a Brooklands...appreciate any leads. Many tks, Larry
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Most of the ones that I've seen have been home-made.

=C2=A0

John

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I'm trying to help out someone who is not on FOT, = and I'm not a TR3 guy. =C2=A0Any sources and options for a racing style TR3 windscr= een?
I'm not sure what style he is interested in. =C2=A0 I thought you guys= just removed them entirely?


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--=_42hshc8sdie8-- --=_3t0d7x5icehs-- --===============2627045235959413558== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2627045235959413558==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 5 14:44:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26EF02588B20 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 14:44:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (omr-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D972258545E for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 14:35:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mad01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mad01.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.207]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id DE85070550000; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 16:35:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mla06g.mail.aol.com (core-mla06.mail.aol.com [172.27.37.6]) by mtaomg-mad01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7EF6238000088; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 16:35:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 70.194.142.211 by webprd-a33.mail.aol.com (10.72.57.52) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:35:27 -0400 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 16:35:27 -0400 From: billdentin@aol.com To: sjanzen@me.com, fot@autox.team.net References: <62F4A2EB-131C-4CDB-91C8-74BE3A240947@me.com> x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1433536528; bh=u1AhMxUQecIIQ5bmHgcTxOZmGZSPrUNbU+W7MCnoSoQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0AxRdEBow6G1NySB2UKoHxCAu5Rf95BK9XcpghsBa2DGXudJb/LTf6Xe9GKKQL6sT OfraSJHuRTBSjsWVIphsWlWbg141rMwQvgHcVwhueQcxWfzdGvuDq++/5GzHW7oRVZ rvPJXf6zzEzZbl9lQ3YwFmpTDKsO35caV0WvYkZk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1addcf557208101352 Subject: Re: [Fot] racing windscreen for TR3 wanted Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2275505231452942702== boundary="----=_Part_45303_156581416.1433536527485" ------=_Part_45303_156581416.1433536527485 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The TR3 actually comes from the factory with mounting holes for a traditional BROOKLANDS WINDSCREEN. I am pretty sure spares houses like Moss and The Roadster Factory sell them, at least they always did. I ran a pair of them on my TR3 race car for decades. They look proper and do a fine job of deflecting wind. Bill Dentinger From: Scott Janzen To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Sent: Fri, Jun 5, 2015 1:55 pm Subject: [Fot] racing windscreen for TR3 wanted I'm trying to help out someone who is not on FOT, and I'm not a TR3 guy. Any sources and options for a racing style TR3 windscreen? I'm not sure what style he is interested in. I thought you guys just removed them entirely? ------=_Part_45303_156581416.1433536527485 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
The TR3 actually comes from the factory with mounting holes for a traditional BROOKLANDS WINDSCREEN.  I am pretty sure spares houses like Moss and The Roadster Factory sell them, at least they always did.  I ran a pair of them on my TR3 race car for decades.  They look proper and do a fine job of deflecting wind.
 
Bill Dentinger

 
 
From: Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com>
To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Jun 5, 2015 1:55 pm
Subject: [Fot] racing windscreen for TR3 wanted

I'm trying to help out someone who is not on FOT, and I'm not a TR3 guy.  Any sources and options for a racing style TR3 windscreen?
I'm not sure what style he is interested in.   I thought you guys just removed them entirely? 
 
 ------=_Part_45303_156581416.1433536527485-- --===============2275505231452942702== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2275505231452942702==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 5 16:46:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29D12588C7E for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 16:46:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f170.google.com (mail-ie0-f170.google.com [209.85.223.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D8462588073 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 16:40:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ieclw1 with SMTP id lw1so67423846iec.3 for ; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 15:40:02 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=NUmVk0maMmE7Ykguo9gNOr6qyzzM3jsRO6mG/hSW5iU=; b=wHm+xLdsgupo49OPHsJGawGebNo/dmjxWxMGuBQrsCZPSAARicv5FSvtk9h2KkolA1 Z6HyJ/qECeAcrBMaR7MVqHKg4agQPJagGIlAFsEQdys0pF9Ei3nAneK53SzhrOGajSci UQ0aL9oY3MlGfgeKugVoGoHnUUFpVkJuvvdtGmiiVMJxpzjan1ukJpK4DW6jBIq983qo MTXCAomnQDn4zDtxZUerQK/oUaF+b1b2OhaznOtT3g8pmHbfetUqbwhOS0rifLYjz41S uqtXXk5OtVgKQ3lzwOyWWIcmFABC4JTX812UZ5niduYLnJ59qMoykJBS112JRgM8OrYI ukeg== Fri, 05 Jun 2015 15:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.127.213 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 15:40:02 -0700 (PDT) References: <62F4A2EB-131C-4CDB-91C8-74BE3A240947@me.com> <6DC51A3A-7455-4604-8D7B-3353F14CD3DE@ponostyle.com> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 18:40:02 -0400 From: John Styduhar To: "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" Subject: Re: [Fot] racing windscreen for TR3 wanted Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6028240745664119660== --001a11c2c5880a45920517ccf995 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My club rules say the following concerning windshields: 3.2.10.3. A transparent windscreen capable of deflecting debris away from the driver, is required. In my club like most others you need to have some type of windscreen, which is a good idea no matter how small to deflect tire rubber, stones, oil and smoke, and parts that come flying off the car(s) in front of you. Some of you guys that have been hit in your visor by track debris know what I am talking about. The little Brooklands screen that they (moss and others) sell will work on the TR3 and is what I use. But I changes the mounting brackets so it is more in line with the direction of the wind and impact. If you are concerned about drilling holes in your TR3 like I was, drill them just below where the lower rubber weatherstrip on the stock windshield would rest on the scuttle. They will be hidden if you convert your car back to road use. Sitting low in the car also help protect the driver. On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: > There are brooklands screens available, but they are mostly for looks, > they don=E2=80=99t do much. I=E2=80=99ve seen stock windscreens cut down = to about half > height with lexan in place of the glass. But simply removing the screen > entirely is the simplest and probably best option. > > On Jun 5, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: > > I'm trying to help out someone who is not on FOT, and I'm not a TR3 guy. > Any sources and options for a racing style TR3 windscreen? > I'm not sure what style he is interested in. I thought you guys just > removed them entirely? > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill@ponostyle.com > > > > Bill Babcock > Bill@ponostyle.com > Editor: Ponostyle > *Celebrating Water* > > Editor: Xtreme Geezer > *Fitness and Fun After Forty* > 503.936.7660 > http://www.PonoStyle.com > http://www.Xgeez.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com > > > > --001a11c2c5880a45920517ccf995 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My = club rules say the following concerning windshields:

3.2.10.3.=C2=A0A=C2=A0transparent=C2=A0windscre= en=C2=A0capable=C2=A0of deflecting=C2=A0debris=C2=A0away=C2=A0from=C2=A0the=C2=A0driver,=C2=A0is=C2= =A0required. =C2=A0

I= n my club like most others you need to have some type of windscreen, which = is a good idea no matter how small to deflect tire rubber, stones, oil and = smoke, and parts that come flying off the car(s) in front of you.=C2=A0 Som= e of you guys that have been hit in your visor by track debris know what I = am talking about.=C2=A0 The little Brooklands screen that they (moss and ot= hers) sell will work on the TR3 and is what I use. But I changes the mounti= ng brackets so it is more in line with the direction of the wind and impact= . If you are concerned about drilling holes in your TR3 like I was, drill t= hem just below where the lower rubber weatherstrip on the stock windshield = would rest on the scuttle. They will be hidden if you convert your car back= to road use. Sitting low in the car also help protect the driver.=C2=A0

On F= ri, Jun 5, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Bill Babcock <Bill@ponostyle.com> wrote:
There are brooklands screens available, but they are mostly for looks,= they don=E2=80=99t do much. I=E2=80=99ve seen stock windscreens cut down t= o about half height with lexan in place of the glass. But simply removing t= he screen entirely is the simplest and probably best option.=C2=A0
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I'm trying to help out someone who is not on = FOT, and I'm not a TR3 guy.=C2=A0 Any sources and options for a racing = style TR3 windscreen?
I'm not sure what style he is interested in. = =C2=A0 I thought you guys just removed them entirely?
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--001a11c2c5880a45920517ccf995-- --===============6028240745664119660== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6028240745664119660==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 5 17:01:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271122588767 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 17:01:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p01c11o149.mxlogic.net (p01c11o149.mxlogic.net [208.65.144.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97442585649 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 16:56:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO p01c11o149.mxlogic.net) by p01c11o149.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.4.0-1) with ESMTP id 80922755.2aace7c25940.116751.00-567.325195.p01c11o149.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:56:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] by p01c11o149.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.4.0-1) over TLS secured channel with SMTP id 70922755.0.116423.00-289.325174.p01c11o149.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:56:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::dc8d:98d4:a80c:1957]) by ATLPEXCAS01.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 18:55:58 -0400 From: John Hasty To: John Styduhar Thread-Topic: [Fot] racing windscreen for TR3 wanted Thread-Index: AQHQn+CP7JjkKtJ3dky0WJpsDWgwxp2ehdGH Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 22:55:58 +0000 References: <62F4A2EB-131C-4CDB-91C8-74BE3A240947@me.com> <6DC51A3A-7455-4604-8D7B-3353F14CD3DE@ponostyle.com>, Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-exclaimer-md-config: cee22798-72e9-40a9-949b-68671b12e107 Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] racing windscreen for TR3 wanted Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net We have also replaced the glass with plastic in our brooklands Sent from my iPhone nstydo@gmail.com>> wrote: My club rules say the following concerning windshields: 3.2.10.3. A transparent windscreen capable of deflecting debris away from t= he driver, is required. In my club like most others you need to have some type of windscreen, which= is a good idea no matter how small to deflect tire rubber, stones, oil and= smoke, and parts that come flying off the car(s) in front of you. Some of= you guys that have been hit in your visor by track debris know what I am t= alking about. The little Brooklands screen that they (moss and others) sel= l will work on the TR3 and is what I use. But I changes the mounting bracke= ts so it is more in line with the direction of the wind and impact. If you = are concerned about drilling holes in your TR3 like I was, drill them just = below where the lower rubber weatherstrip on the stock windshield would res= t on the scuttle. They will be hidden if you convert your car back to road = use. Sitting low in the car also help protect the driver. l@ponostyle.com>> wrote: There are brooklands screens available, but they are mostly for looks, they= don=92t do much. I=92ve seen stock windscreens cut down to about half heig= ht with lexan in place of the glass. But simply removing the screen entirel= y is the simplest and probably best option. com>> wrote: I'm trying to help out someone who is not on FOT, and I'm not a TR3 guy. A= ny sources and options for a racing style TR3 windscreen? I'm not sure what style he is interested in. I thought you guys just remo= ved them entirely? _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive e.com Bill Babcock Editor: Ponostyle Celebrating Water Editor: Xtreme Geezer Fitness and Fun After Forty 503.936.7660 http://www.PonoStyle.com http://www.Xgeez.com _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive il.com _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive w.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive eam.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 5 17:16:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F8125883C2 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 17:16:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4C92585551 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 17:08:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by labpy14 with SMTP id py14so63891240lab.0 for ; Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:08:21 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=6bXi+81IGVeEbi96cSmEBtWKt9u3hU4iaSrXFRnuQos=; b=E8UQkcl/9fc17XIQFTBoG0PLjdVgT99LAUj4Krgj9qD4pk5xqZ54zXFR5bJhN2H9Rt +jfaW+NbGfBKJkGFCKPPxtDSzMaj6aT8x5L21uGtvlIgAS1mGTevsBeMsmsmtW1/hzzJ +7U+Y17xrO6bTZwmbKCqEOn7xuUaAqgtSO+hOFfh3LuJChTw5FNOhJLh357wswVOtAV1 g7w4EWEQqsIbZmSyyilQBz8YOoevqKSzh5DyB0ncQLuRECP58Y/+mWtwIShaW5FJwGVo 9KA35tNEVqoYp/gX47lfdjE3KoMkzaMd20q1BXxDPhyJCLf+DaPjiKvWXfSziQ2nj013 YqTA== Fri, 05 Jun 2015 16:08:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.189.98 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Jun 2015 16:07:40 -0700 (PDT) References: <62F4A2EB-131C-4CDB-91C8-74BE3A240947@me.com> <6DC51A3A-7455-4604-8D7B-3353F14CD3DE@ponostyle.com> <8F08C0BF-1536-4A12-87CB-A52191906C6E@mhc-law.com> From: Kas Kastner Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 16:07:40 -0700 To: John Hasty Cc: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] racing windscreen for TR3 wanted Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============9085135228872991245== --001a11c25cac40544d0517cd5ef8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Brooklands racing screens are IT. Nine years cannot be that far wrong. *Never be beaten by equipment.* On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 3:55 PM, John Hasty wrote: > We have also replaced the glass with plastic in our brooklands > > Sent from my iPhone > > johnstydo@gmail.com>> wrote: > > My club rules say the following concerning windshields: > > 3.2.10.3. A transparent windscreen capable of deflecting debris away from > the driver, is required. > > In my club like most others you need to have some type of windscreen, > which is a good idea no matter how small to deflect tire rubber, stones, > oil and smoke, and parts that come flying off the car(s) in front of you. > Some of you guys that have been hit in your visor by track debris know wh= at > I am talking about. The little Brooklands screen that they (moss and > others) sell will work on the TR3 and is what I use. But I changes the > mounting brackets so it is more in line with the direction of the wind an= d > impact. If you are concerned about drilling holes in your TR3 like I was, > drill them just below where the lower rubber weatherstrip on the stock > windshield would rest on the scuttle. They will be hidden if you convert > your car back to road use. Sitting low in the car also help protect the > driver. > > Bill@ponostyle.com>> wrote: > There are brooklands screens available, but they are mostly for looks, > they don=E2=80=99t do much. I=E2=80=99ve seen stock windscreens cut down = to about half > height with lexan in place of the glass. But simply removing the screen > entirely is the simplest and probably best option. > sjanzen@me.com>> wrote: > > I'm trying to help out someone who is not on FOT, and I'm not a TR3 guy. > Any sources and options for a racing style TR3 windscreen? > I'm not sure what style he is interested in. I thought you guys just > removed them entirely? > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill@ponostyle.com > > > > Bill Babcock > Editor: Ponostyle > Celebrating Water > > Editor: Xtreme Geezer > Fitness and Fun After Forty > 503.936.7660 > http://www.PonoStyle.com > http://www.Xgeez.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhasty@mhc-law.com > > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com > > > --001a11c25cac40544d0517cd5ef8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Brooklands racing screens are IT. Nine years cannot be tha= t far wrong.

Never be beaten = by equipment.


On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 3:55 PM, John Hasty <= span dir=3D"ltr"><jhasty@mhc-law.com> wrote:
johnstydo@gmail.com<mailto:johnstydo@gmail.com>> wrote:

My club rules say the following concerning windshields:

3.2.10.3. A transparent windscreen capable of deflecting debris away from t= he driver, is required.

In my club like most others you need to have some type of windscreen, which= is a good idea no matter how small to deflect tire rubber, stones, oil and= smoke, and parts that come flying off the car(s) in front of you.=C2=A0 So= me of you guys that have been hit in your visor by track debris know what I= am talking about.=C2=A0 The little Brooklands screen that they (moss and o= thers) sell will work on the TR3 and is what I use. But I changes the mount= ing brackets so it is more in line with the direction of the wind and impac= t. If you are concerned about drilling holes in your TR3 like I was, drill = them just below where the lower rubber weatherstrip on the stock windshield= would rest on the scuttle. They will be hidden if you convert your car bac= k to road use. Sitting low in the car also help protect the driver.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Bill Babcock <Bill@ponostyle.com<mailto:Bill@ponostyle.com>> wrote:
There are brooklands screens available, but they are mostly for looks, they= don=E2=80=99t do much. I=E2=80=99ve seen stock windscreens cut down to abo= ut half height with lexan in place of the glass. But simply removing the sc= reen entirely is the simplest and probably best option.
On Jun 5, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com<mailto:sjanzen@= me.com>> wrote:

I'm trying to help out someone who is not on FOT, and I'm not a TR3= guy.=C2=A0 Any sources and options for a racing style TR3 windscreen?
I'm not sure what style he is interested in.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I thought you = guys just removed them entirely?
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--001a11c25cac40544d0517cd5ef8-- --===============9085135228872991245== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============9085135228872991245==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 6 12:00:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63295258476E for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2015 12:00:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173023pub.verizon.net (vms173023pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.23]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78581258476E for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2015 11:41:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([71.116.26.215]) by vms173023.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NPJ003DQAFTEXB0@vms173023.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 12:40:47 -0500 (CDT) a=IJ9pWlWUkYEA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=XAFQembCKUMA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=MQijyaZTAAAA:8 a=HHGDD-5mAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=-BlcdmchAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=H7-MHZqd_s8KhP9FcPcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Jvb2yr4NQscA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=PERfu5hel6MU41oq53gA:9 a=EKOUC8AILfSW0Mh6:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 From: "Bill Tobin" To: "John Styduhar" , "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" References: <62F4A2EB-131C-4CDB-91C8-74BE3A240947@me.com> <6DC51A3A-7455-4604-8D7B-3353F14CD3DE@ponostyle.com> Date: Sat, 06 Jun 2015 13:40:40 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] racing windscreen for TR3 wanted Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============8560817251364081321== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01A5_01D0A05E.609609C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01A5_01D0A05E.609609C0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, the debris thing is why I wear safety sunglasses under my visor = when driving. Another layer of safety. I think I remembrer Hulmet Marco, the F1 driver in the 60's, losing an = eye to debris during a race. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Styduhar=20 To: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph=20 Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] racing windscreen for TR3 wanted My club rules say the following concerning windshields: 3.2.10.3. A transparent windscreen capable of deflecting debris away = from the driver, is required. =20 In my club like most others you need to have some type of windscreen, = which is a good idea no matter how small to deflect tire rubber, stones, = oil and smoke, and parts that come flying off the car(s) in front of = you. Some of you guys that have been hit in your visor by track debris = know what I am talking about. The little Brooklands screen that they = (moss and others) sell will work on the TR3 and is what I use. But I = changes the mounting brackets so it is more in line with the direction = of the wind and impact. If you are concerned about drilling holes in = your TR3 like I was, drill them just below where the lower rubber = weatherstrip on the stock windshield would rest on the scuttle. They = will be hidden if you convert your car back to road use. Sitting low in = the car also help protect the driver.=20 On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Bill Babcock = wrote: There are brooklands screens available, but they are mostly for = looks, they don=E2=80=99t do much. I=E2=80=99ve seen stock windscreens = cut down to about half height with lexan in place of the glass. But = simply removing the screen entirely is the simplest and probably best = option.=20 On Jun 5, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: I'm trying to help out someone who is not on FOT, and I'm not a = TR3 guy. Any sources and options for a racing style TR3 windscreen? I'm not sure what style he is interested in. I thought you guys = just removed them entirely? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill@ponostyle.com Bill Babcock Bill@ponostyle.com Editor: Ponostyle Celebrating Water Editor: Xtreme Geezer Fitness and Fun After Forty 503.936.7660 http://www.PonoStyle.com http://www.Xgeez.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net ------=_NextPart_000_01A5_01D0A05E.609609C0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Hi All, the debris thing is why I wear = safety=20 sunglasses under my visor when driving. Another layer of = safety.
I think I remembrer Hulmet Marco, the = F1 driver in=20 the 60's, losing an eye to debris during a race.
Cheers, Bill
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Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 = 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] racing = windscreen for=20 TR3 wanted

My club rules = say the=20 following concerning windshields:

3.2.10.3. A transparent windscreen&n= bsp;capable of=20 = deflecting debris away from the driver, is&= nbsp;required.=20  

In my club like = most others=20 you need to have some type of windscreen, which is a good idea no = matter how=20 small to deflect tire rubber, stones, oil and smoke, and parts that = come=20 flying off the car(s) in front of you.  Some of you guys that = have been=20 hit in your visor by track debris know what I am talking about.  = The=20 little Brooklands screen that they (moss and others) sell will work on = the TR3=20 and is what I use. But I changes the mounting brackets so it is more = in line=20 with the direction of the wind and impact. If you are concerned about = drilling=20 holes in your TR3 like I was, drill them just below where the lower = rubber=20 weatherstrip on the stock windshield would rest on the scuttle. They = will be=20 hidden if you convert your car back to road use. Sitting low in the = car also=20 help protect the driver. 

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Bill Babcock = <Bill@ponostyle.com> wrote:
There are brooklands screens = available,=20 but they are mostly for looks, they don=E2=80=99t do much. = I=E2=80=99ve seen stock=20 windscreens cut down to about half height with lexan in place of the = glass.=20 But simply removing the screen entirely is the simplest and probably = best=20 option. 
On Jun 5, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com>=20 wrote:
I'm trying to help out = someone who is=20 not on FOT, and I'm not a TR3 guy.  Any sources and options = for a=20 racing style TR3 windscreen?
I'm not sure what style he is interested in.   I thought = you=20 guys just removed them=20 = entirely?
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------=_NextPart_000_01A5_01D0A05E.609609C0-- --===============8560817251364081321== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8560817251364081321==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 6 13:46:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B4325891A2 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2015 13:46:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from albert.telenet-ops.be (albert.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.90]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3FB2584C33 for ; Sat, 6 Jun 2015 13:35:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([IPv6:2a02:1812:d1c:7a00:3405:995e:605a:dedf]) by albert.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id d7bW1q00d1LprLW067bc8z; Sat, 06 Jun 2015 21:35:36 +0200 From: "Marcel Van Mulders" To: "'Bill Tobin'" References: <62F4A2EB-131C-4CDB-91C8-74BE3A240947@me.com> <6DC51A3A-7455-4604-8D7B-3353F14CD3DE@ponostyle.com> <7A4A7FF698C74693AC509AB872F4AFB9@hpd530> Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 21:35:30 +0200 Thread-Index: AdCggpzDbP/sZJzWSSamxIZjDjvizAACr6Cw Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] racing windscreen for TR3 wanted Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============9155754341523650884== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0009_01D0A0A0.B6D07270" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01D0A0A0.B6D07270 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I wonder if you drivers are looking over the wind deflector, or do you hold your face behind it? Probably most of the road debris will be deflected above the helmet, even if you look over the windscreen. Racing without a screen is definitely unsafe (although motorcycle racers have no deflector and they keep their head very low!). I've tried my racecar on the road without any deflector : breathing and keeping my head upright was very difficult. A deflector of 4" is making a huge difference. Marcel. _____ Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Bill Tobin Verzonden: zaterdag 6 juni 2015 19:41 Aan: John Styduhar; Triumph 'Friends of Triumph Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] racing windscreen for TR3 wanted Hi All, the debris thing is why I wear safety sunglasses under my visor when driving. Another layer of safety. I think I remembrer Hulmet Marco, the F1 driver in the 60's, losing an eye to debris during a race. Cheers, Bill ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, June 05, 2015 6:40 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] racing windscreen for TR3 wanted My club rules say the following concerning windshields: 3.2.10.3. A transparent windscreen capable of deflecting debris away from the driver, is required. In my club like most others you need to have some type of windscreen, which is a good idea no matter how small to deflect tire rubber, stones, oil and smoke, and parts that come flying off the car(s) in front of you. Some of you guys that have been hit in your visor by track debris know what I am talking about. The little Brooklands screen that they (moss and others) sell will work on the TR3 and is what I use. But I changes the mounting brackets so it is more in line with the direction of the wind and impact. If you are concerned about drilling holes in your TR3 like I was, drill them just below where the lower rubber weatherstrip on the stock windshield would rest on the scuttle. They will be hidden if you convert your car back to road use. Sitting low in the car also help protect the driver. On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Bill Babcock wrote: There are brooklands screens available, but they are mostly for looks, they don't do much. I've seen stock windscreens cut down to about half height with lexan in place of the glass. But simply removing the screen entirely is the simplest and probably best option. On Jun 5, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: I'm trying to help out someone who is not on FOT, and I'm not a TR3 guy. Any sources and options for a racing style TR3 windscreen? I'm not sure what style he is interested in. I thought you guys just removed them entirely? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill@ponostyle.com Bill Babcock Bill@ponostyle.com Editor: Ponostyle Celebrating Water Editor: Xtreme Geezer Fitness and Fun After Forty 503.936.7660 http://www.PonoStyle.com http://www.Xgeez.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com _____ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01D0A0A0.B6D07270 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I wonder if you drivers are looking over = the wind=20 deflector, or do you hold your face behind it?
Probably most of the road debris will be = deflected above the helmet, even if you look over the=20 windscreen.
Racing without a screen is definitely = unsafe=20 (although motorcycle racers have no deflector and they keep their head = very=20 low!). I've tried my racecar on the road without any deflector : = breathing=20 and keeping my head upright was very difficult. A deflector of 4" is = making a=20 huge difference.
Marcel.
Van: Fot = [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net]=20 Namens Bill Tobin
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Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] racing windscreen for TR3=20 wanted

Hi All, the debris thing is why I wear = safety=20 sunglasses under my visor when driving. Another layer of = safety.
I think I remembrer Hulmet Marco, the = F1 driver in=20 the 60's, losing an eye to debris during a race.
Cheers, Bill
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My club rules = say the=20 following concerning windshields:

3.2.10.3. A transparent windscreen capable&nbs= p;of=20 = deflecting debris away from the driver, is&= nbsp;required.=20  

In my club like = most others=20 you need to have some type of windscreen, which is a good idea no = matter how=20 small to deflect tire rubber, stones, oil and smoke, and parts that = come=20 flying off the car(s) in front of you.  Some of you guys that = have been=20 hit in your visor by track debris know what I am talking about.  = The=20 little Brooklands screen that they (moss and others) sell will work on = the TR3=20 and is what I use. But I changes the mounting brackets so it is more = in line=20 with the direction of the wind and impact. If you are concerned about = drilling=20 holes in your TR3 like I was, drill them just below where the lower = rubber=20 weatherstrip on the stock windshield would rest on the scuttle. They = will be=20 hidden if you convert your car back to road use. Sitting low in the = car also=20 help protect the driver. 

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Bill Babcock = <Bill@ponostyle.com> wrote:
There are brooklands screens = available,=20 but they are mostly for looks, they don’t do much. I’ve = seen stock=20 windscreens cut down to about half height with lexan in place of the = glass.=20 But simply removing the screen entirely is the simplest and probably = best=20 option. 
On Jun 5, 2015, at 9:15 AM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com>=20 wrote:
I'm trying to help out = someone who is=20 not on FOT, and I'm not a TR3 guy.  Any sources and options = for a=20 racing style TR3 windscreen?=20
I'm not sure what style he is interested in.   I thought = you=20 guys just removed them=20 = entirely?
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------=_NextPart_000_0009_01D0A0A0.B6D07270-- --===============9155754341523650884== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============9155754341523650884==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 8 01:57:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1472584502 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 01:57:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f175.google.com (mail-ob0-f175.google.com [209.85.214.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F68E2580057 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 01:52:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: by obbir4 with SMTP id ir4so50105236obb.1 for ; Mon, 08 Jun 2015 00:52:06 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=+SLPrfv/TyjK19VIvdhuSKFvzGPmLX2F6s7MuEDGiFM=; b=FAPEKHgtyy7bAS0d9zrw6fysM3GviYAWaEkGG5Q9OLJaouRkL3yuk8vefwXll1o7mQ A77GQSHlduLd1R3sDuibjoLIerSfQjYAIWKI7aKeesxFmvDEbV79ehnbQ+cOwGFbYgKJ OoLf/4kAvML0n0Y/p870dvSg3p0PeBeK+bqqchglxIqasPHVY7wpm57JCnRzZA04zZy5 +5cMBDo3EuEaEEnl34KL354DHOCdj6L8IZdFLWr/dwi8erhCSO6qES4zkIDLM68k9PFR V0Go8mxzjkUx5jRWQX7BRLBtgJ1Jfv+B4txF4K10CMGCNqKtqOBMMD+tXLVyNE3PDOPl tt5Q== 08 Jun 2015 00:52:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.87.212 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 00:51:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "Enquiries Road & Track" Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 17:51:46 +1000 To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] TR6 race cam Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6546810787230724702== --089e015376121468b70517fcebb0 would any of the serious racers be prepared to share info on what camshaft they are using (maker/code # or timing data) . In asking around, it seems most of the blanks can that can now be bought locally, only suit moderate grinds thanks, Terry --089e015376121468b70517fcebb0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
would any of the serious racers be prepared to share info = on what camshaft they are using (maker/code # or timing data) . In asking a= round, it seems most of the blanks can that can now be bought locally, only= suit moderate grinds

thanks, Terry

--089e015376121468b70517fcebb0-- --===============6546810787230724702== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6546810787230724702==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 8 09:19:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152D22584C19 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 09:19:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p14im-asmtp002.me.com (nk11p14im-asmtp002.me.com [17.158.72.161]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2576258466C for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 09:11:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.99.30] (c-68-80-11-16.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [68.80.11.16]) by nk11p14im-asmtp002.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.35.0 64bit (built Dec 4 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NPM00LTWSVC6N00@nk11p14im-asmtp002.me.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 08 Jun 2015 15:11:38 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.14.151,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-06-08_09:2015-06-08,2015-06-08,1970-01-01 signatures=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1412110000 definitions=main-1506080247 From: Scott Janzen Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 11:11:35 -0400 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Leaky Pinion seal Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0980045683243897786== boundary="Apple-Mail=_F9E3CDC4-6E43-4CE1-AE15-A2B19FC5F4BE" --Apple-Mail=_F9E3CDC4-6E43-4CE1-AE15-A2B19FC5F4BE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=us-ascii I had a leaky pinion seal on the GT6 differential, and figured I had = remedied it by putting in a new seal and a speedi-sleeve this winter. = Guess what? It's leaking more than ever. =20 Any thoughts on a better fix?= --Apple-Mail=_F9E3CDC4-6E43-4CE1-AE15-A2B19FC5F4BE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit charset=us-ascii I had a leaky pinion seal on the GT6 differential, and figured I had remedied it by putting in a new seal and a speedi-sleeve this winter.  Guess what?  It's leaking more than ever.  

Any thoughts on a better fix?
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Scott,

How was the sealing surface on the front flange? If that is damage= d or is worn then a speedy- sleeve might help. Also possible is I have seen= leaks from the behind the pinnion nut...oil migrates up the shaft past the= splines and out from behind the nut and washer...assembling with a little = silicone helps this. Did you get the flange back on in the same attitude as= it was before dis-assembly....in other words did you mark the flange and s= haft and tighten the nut to the same spot....this is what sets the pinnion = pre-load and depth

=
Chip Collingwood
= (804) 564-1839

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Scott Janze= n <sjanzen@me.com> wrote:
I had a leaky pinion seal on the GT6 diffe= rential, and figured I had remedied it by putting in a new seal and a speed= i-sleeve this winter.=C2=A0 Guess what?=C2=A0 It's leaking more than ev= er. =C2=A0

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--001a1144d0b09e5b7d0518035469-- --===============5806977656227864310== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5806977656227864310==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 8 09:49:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330152584F3A for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 09:49:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p14im-asmtp002.me.com (nk11p14im-asmtp002.me.com [17.158.72.161]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC1D2584D19 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 09:36:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.99.30] (c-68-80-11-16.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [68.80.11.16]) by nk11p14im-asmtp002.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.35.0 64bit (built Dec 4 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NPM00JGRTZMJ840@nk11p14im-asmtp002.me.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 08 Jun 2015 15:35:49 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.14.151,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-06-08_09:2015-06-08,2015-06-08,1970-01-01 signatures=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1412110000 definitions=main-1506080251 From: Scott Janzen Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 11:35:46 -0400 References: To: Chip Collingwood Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Leaky Pinion seal Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3019989769373508289== boundary="Apple-Mail=_44BCA850-CF7F-4011-B814-DFA4BB064CD2" --Apple-Mail=_44BCA850-CF7F-4011-B814-DFA4BB064CD2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=us-ascii I did put a speedi-sleeve on it - good tight fit, with some permatex = under it to make sure that didn't leak - as the surface had some wear = marks. I marked everything and re-assembled as it was to maintain the = same pre-load; the diff was removed from the car so this was not = difficult to do, and there was no wobble - i.e., the preload setting was = good. I'll check to see if it was migrating from the nut - interesting = possibility, though I'm pretty sure from the visuals that it is at the = seal. Using Redline gear oil, 85 weight. On Jun 8, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Chip Collingwood wrote: Scott, How was the sealing surface on the front flange? If that is damaged or = is worn then a speedy- sleeve might help. Also possible is I have seen = leaks from the behind the pinnion nut...oil migrates up the shaft past = the splines and out from behind the nut and washer...assembling with a = little silicone helps this. Did you get the flange back on in the same = attitude as it was before dis-assembly....in other words did you mark = the flange and shaft and tighten the nut to the same spot....this is = what sets the pinnion pre-load and depth Chip Collingwood theukmotorsports.com (804) 564-1839 On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: I had a leaky pinion seal on the GT6 differential, and figured I had = remedied it by putting in a new seal and a speedi-sleeve this winter. = Guess what? It's leaking more than ever. =20 Any thoughts on a better fix? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chip@theukmotorsports.com --Apple-Mail=_44BCA850-CF7F-4011-B814-DFA4BB064CD2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=us-ascii I did = put a speedi-sleeve on it - good tight fit, with some permatex under it = to make sure that didn't leak - as the surface had some wear marks. =  I marked everything and re-assembled as it was to maintain the = same pre-load; the diff was removed from the car so this was not = difficult to do, and there was no wobble - i.e., the preload setting was = good.  I'll check to see if it was migrating from the nut - = interesting possibility, though I'm pretty sure from the visuals that it = is at the seal.
Using Redline gear oil, 85 = weight.

On Jun 8, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Chip = Collingwood wrote:

Scott,

How was the = sealing surface on the front flange? If that is damaged or is worn then = a speedy- sleeve might help. Also possible is I have seen leaks from the = behind the pinnion nut...oil migrates up the shaft past the splines and = out from behind the nut and washer...assembling with a little silicone = helps this. Did you get the flange back on in the same attitude as it = was before dis-assembly....in other words did you mark the flange and = shaft and tighten the nut to the same spot....this is what sets the = pinnion pre-load and depth

Chip = Collingwood
(804) = 564-1839

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Scott = Janzen <sjanzen@me.com> wrote:
I had a = leaky pinion seal on the GT6 differential, and figured I had remedied it = by putting in a new seal and a speedi-sleeve this winter.  Guess = what?  It's leaking more than ever.  

Any = thoughts on a better = fix?

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= --Apple-Mail=_44BCA850-CF7F-4011-B814-DFA4BB064CD2-- --===============3019989769373508289== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3019989769373508289==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 8 10:29:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900EF2584F9A for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 10:29:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC80D25809C1 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 10:18:26 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge03 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:33809] helo=cdptpa-web10) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 75/14-25745-650C5755; Mon, 08 Jun 2015 16:18:30 +0000 Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 16:18:30 +0000 From: To: Scott Janzen , Chip Collingwood Sensitivity: Normal Mon, 8 Jun 2015 16:18:30 +0000 Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Leaky Pinion seal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Diff's can build pressure if the little cotter pin is clogged and force oil past the seals. I try to buy the best seals I can because the cheap rubber parts placed in bags by our suppliers seem to be crap. Speedie Sleeves aren't big enough to cover the whole surface so locating them is a high priority. I have never installed one where the surface was so poor that I has to use sealant below the sleeve. I have used Permatex No2, the semi-hard stuff on the splines in an attempt to seal the splines but I still get oil under the washers that drips out when I separate axles and drive shafts. Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com ---- Scott Janzen wrote: > I did put a speedi-sleeve on it - good tight fit, with some permatex under it to make sure that didn't leak - as the surface had some wear marks. I marked everything and re-assembled as it was to maintain the same pre-load; the diff was removed from the car so this was not difficult to do, and there was no wobble - i.e., the preload setting was good. I'll check to see if it was migrating from the nut - interesting possibility, though I'm pretty sure from the visuals that it is at the seal. > Using Redline gear oil, 85 weight. > > On Jun 8, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Chip Collingwood wrote: > > Scott, > > How was the sealing surface on the front flange? If that is damaged or is worn then a speedy- sleeve might help. Also possible is I have seen leaks from the behind the pinnion nut...oil migrates up the shaft past the splines and out from behind the nut and washer...assembling with a little silicone helps this. Did you get the flange back on in the same attitude as it was before dis-assembly....in other words did you mark the flange and shaft and tighten the nut to the same spot....this is what sets the pinnion pre-load and depth > > Chip Collingwood > theukmotorsports.com > (804) 564-1839 > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: > I had a leaky pinion seal on the GT6 differential, and figured I had remedied it by putting in a new seal and a speedi-sleeve this winter. Guess what? It's leaking more than ever. > > Any thoughts on a better fix? > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chip@theukmotorsports.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 8 11:21:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFE1258513C for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 11:21:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (aso-006-i442.relay.mailchannels.net [23.91.64.123]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5B92580489 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 11:09:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from s15-dallas.accountservergroup.com (ip-10-204-4-183.us-west-2.compute.internal [10.204.4.183]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0E95461672; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 17:09:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from s15-dallas.accountservergroup.com (s15-dallas.accountservergroup.com [10.45.8.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.4.8); Mon, 08 Jun 2015 17:09:36 +0000 Received: from ppp173-233.broadband.gorge.net ([209.216.173.233]:46963 helo=[10.0.1.183]) by s15-dallas.accountservergroup.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1Z20YJ-000DFc-32; Mon, 08 Jun 2015 12:09:35 -0500 From: Bill Babcock Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 10:09:32 -0700 References: To: Scott Janzen Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Leaky Pinion seal Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1052569513675240193== --Apple-Mail=_4B122971-9CB0-4A86-A81E-1189520D7E07 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 Get a UV leak detector kit to spot exactly where it=E2=80=99s coming = from.=20 > On Jun 8, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: >=20 > I did put a speedi-sleeve on it - good tight fit, with some permatex = under it to make sure that didn't leak - as the surface had some wear = marks. I marked everything and re-assembled as it was to maintain the = same pre-load; the diff was removed from the car so this was not = difficult to do, and there was no wobble - i.e., the preload setting was = good. I'll check to see if it was migrating from the nut - interesting = possibility, though I'm pretty sure from the visuals that it is at the = seal. > Using Redline gear oil, 85 weight. >=20 > On Jun 8, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Chip Collingwood wrote: >=20 > Scott, >=20 > How was the sealing surface on the front flange? If that is damaged or = is worn then a speedy- sleeve might help. Also possible is I have seen = leaks from the behind the pinnion nut...oil migrates up the shaft past = the splines and out from behind the nut and washer...assembling with a = little silicone helps this. Did you get the flange back on in the same = attitude as it was before dis-assembly....in other words did you mark = the flange and shaft and tighten the nut to the same spot....this is = what sets the pinnion pre-load and depth >=20 > Chip Collingwood > theukmotorsports.com > (804) 564-1839 >=20 > On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Scott Janzen I had a leaky pinion seal on the GT6 differential, and figured I had = remedied it by putting in a new seal and a speedi-sleeve this winter. = Guess what? 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On Jun 8, 2015, at 8:35 AM, Scott Janzen = <sjanzen@me.com> = wrote:

I did put a = speedi-sleeve on it - good tight fit, with some permatex under it to = make sure that didn't leak - as the surface had some wear marks.  I = marked everything and re-assembled as it was to maintain the same = pre-load; the diff was removed from the car so this was not difficult to = do, and there was no wobble - i.e., the preload setting was good. =  I'll check to see if it was migrating from the nut - interesting = possibility, though I'm pretty sure from the visuals that it is at the = seal.
Using Redline gear oil, 85 weight.

On Jun 8, = 2015, at 11:31 AM, Chip Collingwood wrote:

Scott,

How was the sealing surface on the = front flange? If that is damaged or is worn then a speedy- sleeve might = help. Also possible is I have seen leaks from the behind the pinnion = nut...oil migrates up the shaft past the splines and out from behind the = nut and washer...assembling with a little silicone helps this. Did you = get the flange back on in the same attitude as it was before = dis-assembly....in other words did you mark the flange and shaft and = tighten the nut to the same spot....this is what sets the pinnion = pre-load and depth

Chip = Collingwood
theukmotorsports.com
(804) 564-1839

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:11 = AM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com> wrote:
I = had a leaky pinion seal on the GT6 differential, and figured I had = remedied it by putting in a new seal and a speedi-sleeve this = winter.  Guess what?  It's leaking more than ever.  

Any thoughts on a better = fix?

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= --Apple-Mail=_4B122971-9CB0-4A86-A81E-1189520D7E07-- --===============1052569513675240193== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1052569513675240193==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 8 15:24:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE192584FC4 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 15:24:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from icp-osb-irony-out3.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out3.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.153]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C725325809C1 for ; Mon, 8 Jun 2015 15:14:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown (HELO PetersTowerPC) ([124.170.44.202]) by icp-osb-irony-out3.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 09 Jun 2015 05:14:53 +0800 From: "Peter Vucinic" To: "'Scott Janzen'" , "'Chip Collingwood'" References: Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 07:14:11 +1000 Thread-Index: AdCiArTCgdz8NPIQQtu4eo1Dbt+8FQALT6rA Content-Language: en-au Cc: ''Friends of Triumph' Triumph' Subject: Re: [Fot] Leaky Pinion seal Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============6433115047761561179== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0507_01D0A283.E2AF2910" Content-Language: en-au This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0507_01D0A283.E2AF2910 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scott, If you didn't put any sealing compound under the pinion nut/washer. It will be coming out of there. "You can Make a Small Fortune From Motor Racing. As long as You Started With A Lage Fortune!" Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR4 - TR7 V8 - Spitfire MkII _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Scott Janzen Sent: Tuesday, 9 June 2015 1:36 AM To: Chip Collingwood Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Leaky Pinion seal I did put a speedi-sleeve on it - good tight fit, with some permatex under it to make sure that didn't leak - as the surface had some wear marks. I marked everything and re-assembled as it was to maintain the same pre-load; the diff was removed from the car so this was not difficult to do, and there was no wobble - i.e., the preload setting was good. I'll check to see if it was migrating from the nut - interesting possibility, though I'm pretty sure from the visuals that it is at the seal. Using Redline gear oil, 85 weight. On Jun 8, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Chip Collingwood wrote: Scott, How was the sealing surface on the front flange? If that is damaged or is worn then a speedy- sleeve might help. Also possible is I have seen leaks from the behind the pinnion nut...oil migrates up the shaft past the splines and out from behind the nut and washer...assembling with a little silicone helps this. Did you get the flange back on in the same attitude as it was before dis-assembly....in other words did you mark the flange and shaft and tighten the nut to the same spot....this is what sets the pinnion pre-load and depth Chip Collingwood theukmotorsports.com (804) 564-1839 On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: I had a leaky pinion seal on the GT6 differential, and figured I had remedied it by putting in a new seal and a speedi-sleeve this winter. Guess what? It's leaking more than ever. Any thoughts on a better fix? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chip@theukmotorsports.com ------=_NextPart_000_0507_01D0A283.E2AF2910 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Scott,

If you didn’t put any sealing compound under the pinion = nut/washer. It will be coming out of there.

 

 

 

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Kind Regards

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Subject: Re: [Fot] Leaky Pinion = seal

 

I did put a speedi-sleeve on it - good = tight fit, with some permatex under it to make sure that didn't leak - = as the surface had some wear marks.  I marked everything and = re-assembled as it was to maintain the same pre-load; the diff was = removed from the car so this was not difficult to do, and there was no = wobble - i.e., the preload setting was good.  I'll check to see if = it was migrating from the nut - interesting possibility, though I'm = pretty sure from the visuals that it is at the = seal.

Using Redline gear oil, 85 = weight.

 

On Jun 8, 2015, at 11:31 = AM, Chip Collingwood wrote:

 

Scott,

 

How was the sealing = surface on the front flange? If that is damaged or is worn then a = speedy- sleeve might help. Also possible is I have seen leaks from the = behind the pinnion nut...oil migrates up the shaft past the splines and = out from behind the nut and washer...assembling with a little silicone = helps this. Did you get the flange back on in the same attitude as it = was before dis-assembly....in other words did you mark the flange and = shaft and tighten the nut to the same spot....this is what sets the = pinnion pre-load and depth


Chip Collingwood

(804) = 564-1839

 

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at = 11:11 AM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com> wrote:

I had a leaky pinion seal = on the GT6 differential, and figured I had remedied it by putting in a = new seal and a speedi-sleeve this winter.  Guess what?  It's = leaking more than ever.  

 

Any thoughts on a better = fix?


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= --Apple-Mail-3-225043887-- --===============8107554797752647397== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8107554797752647397==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 9 06:17:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B0A2584F00 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2015 06:17:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173025pub.verizon.net (vms173025pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A30C258455C for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2015 06:05:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([71.116.26.215]) by vms173025.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NPO009NJEWRAG10@vms173025.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 09 Jun 2015 07:05:16 -0500 (CDT) a=IJ9pWlWUkYEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=XAFQembCKUMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=HHGDD-5mAAAA:8 a=Kpvx8K5RAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=Nls0Bfneu_fktl64G2IA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=0qjUQifb_h4A:10 a=HLWUf4PyEfMA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=1QxL4-FO5KAA:10 From: "Bill Tobin" To: , "Scott Janzen" , "Chip Collingwood" References: <20150608161830.O0P57.190853.root@cdptpa-web10> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 2015 08:05:15 -0400 Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Leaky Pinion seal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I agree with Bob about the breather in the diff. I drilled and tapped the breather hole for a fitting and ran a -4 breather hose up and around the frame. Seems to work. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Scott Janzen" ; "Chip Collingwood" Cc: "'Friends of Triumph' Triumph" Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Leaky Pinion seal > Diff's can build pressure if the little cotter pin is clogged and force > oil past the seals. I try to buy the best seals I can because the cheap > rubber parts placed in bags by our suppliers seem to be crap. Speedie > Sleeves aren't big enough to cover the whole surface so locating them is a > high priority. I have never installed one where the surface was so poor > that > I has to use sealant below the sleeve. I have used Permatex No2, the > semi-hard stuff on the splines in an attempt to seal the splines but I > still get oil under the washers that drips out when I separate axles and > drive shafts. > > Bob Kramer > rkramer3@austin.rr.com > > ---- Scott Janzen wrote: >> I did put a speedi-sleeve on it - good tight fit, with some permatex >> under it to make sure that didn't leak - as the surface had some wear >> marks. I marked everything and re-assembled as it was to maintain the >> same pre-load; the diff was removed from the car so this was not >> difficult to do, and there was no wobble - i.e., the preload setting was >> good. I'll check to see if it was migrating from the nut - interesting >> possibility, though I'm pretty sure from the visuals that it is at the >> seal. >> Using Redline gear oil, 85 weight. >> >> On Jun 8, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Chip Collingwood wrote: >> >> Scott, >> >> How was the sealing surface on the front flange? If that is damaged or is >> worn then a speedy- sleeve might help. Also possible is I have seen leaks >> from the behind the pinnion nut...oil migrates up the shaft past the >> splines and out from behind the nut and washer...assembling with a little >> silicone helps this. Did you get the flange back on in the same attitude >> as it was before dis-assembly....in other words did you mark the flange >> and shaft and tighten the nut to the same spot....this is what sets the >> pinnion pre-load and depth >> >> Chip Collingwood >> theukmotorsports.com >> (804) 564-1839 >> >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: >> I had a leaky pinion seal on the GT6 differential, and figured I had >> remedied it by putting in a new seal and a speedi-sleeve this winter. >> Guess what? It's leaking more than ever. >> >> Any thoughts on a better fix? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chip@theukmotorsports.com >> >> >> >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 9 11:23:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89092585AEF for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2015 11:23:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from DUB004-OMC2S12.hotmail.com (unknown [157.55.1.151]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9AD258599E for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2015 11:10:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DUB128-W26 ([157.55.1.137]) by DUB004-OMC2S12.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Tue, 9 Jun 2015 10:10:03 -0700 From: John To: "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 17:10:03 +0000 Importance: Normal References: FILETIME=[20553DB0:01D0A2D7] Subject: [Fot] The DVD is ready! 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= --_1d6e5dfe-3e3d-42bc-a4d5-6fa713715938_-- --===============7167027984271945212== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============7167027984271945212==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 9 16:27:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FF7D2585E18 for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2015 16:27:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m06.mx.aol.com (omr-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71DA5258486B for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2015 16:16:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mbc01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mbc01.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.141]) by omr-m06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 39981700308EA for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2015 18:16:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.230.13.239] (unknown [64.72.67.162]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mbc01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 00C053800008F for ; Tue, 9 Jun 2015 18:16:50 -0400 (EDT) From: fmccjr@aol.com Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2015 18:16:50 -0400 To: "fot@autox.team.net" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1433888211; bh=ew2TQeHzs2DTvEX4C84TkPsaeifXmlUT4/5S5GbyCvA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=GOkwSVtOYBerHQPViB12BpiJKcEo6yUwe7rdA5uWGIROy3/klPy5oQajKB04UgjPf pJ6dlZxMEufRn46NRkZ3fv28MH3qi2MVsur9PgvReHGdWMN9vrpRQDGjabHmT/1GPk acX1gAOpZzX/XsO1bOzGki6cJRA0k0OIV4kR4lYU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1add8d557765d26a21 Subject: [Fot] Wheels Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, a Is there anyone out there who is racing a Tr3 (with steel fenders) who might share information about what wheels you are using? I have Avon 175/60/15 tires on TR6 rims, and the front fender sits right on the tire. No racing for me, yet! (No issues in the rear, in fact, I'm using 3/4" spacers). I am a VSCCA member, and I'm stumped! ...The original 4 inchers won't do. What width and offset do I need to clear the front fenders and brakes with these tires? Thanks, Rick McCurdy Newburgh, NY Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 10 06:47:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E142585B68 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 06:47:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9676E25855A0 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 06:43:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.30] (ool-4574ac83.dyn.optonline.net [69.116.172.131]) by mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0NPQ00LGZBC7FQV0@mta8.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 08:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 08:43:19 -0400 From: Todd Redmond To: "fmccjr@aol.com" References: <45907396-F3A6-4D64-9845-A6FD5A464859@aol.com> Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I'm interested in hearing the responses. I'm sure it's been said, but did you roll the fenders? Todd Redmond Sent from my iPad > On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:16 PM, fmccjr@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, a > Is there anyone out there who is racing a Tr3 (with steel fenders) who might share information about what wheels you are using? I have Avon 175/60/15 tires on TR6 rims, and the front fender sits right on the tire. No racing for me, yet! (No issues in the rear, in fact, I'm using 3/4" spacers). > I am a VSCCA member, and I'm stumped! ...The original 4 inchers won't do. > > What width and offset do I need to clear the front fenders and brakes with these tires? > > Thanks, > Rick McCurdy > Newburgh, NY > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 10 07:03:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5902586051 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 07:03:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.henryfrye.com (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2773258059F for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 06:57:05 -0600 (MDT) tests=BAYES_00: -1.665,T_URIBL_SEM: 0.01,T_URIBL_SEM_FRESH: 0.01, T_URIBL_SEM_FRESH_10: 0.01,T_URIBL_SEM_FRESH_15: 0.01,T_URIBL_SEM_RED: 0.01, URIBL_RHS_DOB: 1.514,TOTAL_SCORE: -0.101,autolearn=no Received: from [10.4.4.120] ([10.4.4.120]) by mail.henryfrye.com (Kerio Connect 8.4.1) for fot@autox.team.net; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 08:54:01 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 08:57:06 -0400 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AdCjA21LrGxAMkgWW0GabSzF2PKrOgAeJcng References: <45907396-F3A6-4D64-9845-A6FD5A464859@aol.com> From: Yellow04 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Old Blue sits on Panasport Ultra Light racing wheels, 5.5X15. Not sure of the backspacing, maybe Bill remembers? http://www.spruellmotorsport.com/15x55-panasport-ultra-light-racing-wheel-p-68.html > -----Original Message----- > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > fmccjr@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 6:17 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Wheels > > Hi, a > Is there anyone out there who is racing a Tr3 (with steel fenders) who might > share information about what wheels you are using? I have Avon 175/60/15 > tires on TR6 rims, and the front fender sits right on the tire. No racing for me, > yet! (No issues in the rear, in fact, I'm using 3/4" spacers). > I am a VSCCA member, and I'm stumped! ...The original 4 inchers won't do. > > What width and offset do I need to clear the front fenders and brakes with > these tires? > > Thanks, > Rick McCurdy > Newburgh, NY > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow04@tr4racer.com > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 10 07:52:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5212586554 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 07:52:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from oms-m03.mx.aol.com (oms-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.233.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20A52585181 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 07:51:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omr-m03.mx.aol.com (omr-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.77]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by oms-m03.mx.aol.com (AOL Outbound OMS Interface) with ESMTPS id 9885B3800200F for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 09:48:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mtaout-mad01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mad01.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.205]) by omr-m03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8CA4770037384; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 09:48:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.230.13.239] (unknown [64.72.67.162]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mad01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 6320B38000086; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 09:48:18 -0400 (EDT) From: fmccjr@aol.com Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 09:48:15 -0400 References: <45907396-F3A6-4D64-9845-A6FD5A464859@aol.com> To: Todd Redmond x-aol-global-disposition: S s=20140625; t=1433944098; bh=137AlTpMyHgnI+LmiIPaEFZ+MSNf5tHyrVGDk0jQSdA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=ICf2/SKHKpi+U3QnGJZJUqPIKmF4fhHF4D0UQuuMhOkbcQBLYZRa2rbxCdZRSqsL3 PCC/TNoQDR6HoixJjq7y2j+WXJtbsbh5/ICkfG4BetBEFLBcn3xDLvzFIWiRfUM/0T xePsV7Pk/2GE2jTZ4CFl7pjVIy08aXgVOyfHPAN8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1addcd557840227923 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net No, I didn't (...yet). I'd like to find a less "intrusive" solution (I worked like a dog to get those fenders as straight as I could!). The car is at least an inch lower than stock, but I'm sure there is a wheel (aftermarket) that will work! Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:43 AM, Todd Redmond wrote: > > I'm interested in hearing the responses. > > I'm sure it's been said, but did you roll the fenders? > > Todd Redmond > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:16 PM, fmccjr@aol.com wrote: >> >> Hi, a >> Is there anyone out there who is racing a Tr3 (with steel fenders) who might share information about what wheels you are using? I have Avon 175/60/15 tires on TR6 rims, and the front fender sits right on the tire. No racing for me, yet! (No issues in the rear, in fact, I'm using 3/4" spacers). >> I am a VSCCA member, and I'm stumped! ...The original 4 inchers won't do. >> >> What width and offset do I need to clear the front fenders and brakes with these tires? >> >> Thanks, >> Rick McCurdy >> Newburgh, NY >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net >> >> _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 10 08:03:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DEF525867CE for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 08:03:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58642585A09 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 08:01:03 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=j4W0ZZHVQw5g/ir/EW7WxX2/EInqhW4QZNwE5T/QF2v5MRODrVuiDIyYGyBwPU3z; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Cc:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.44] (helo=elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Z2gZ2-0000XW-H4; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:01:08 -0400 Received: from 209.179.51.160 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:01:08 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:01:08 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Mike Jackson To: fmccjr@aol.com, Todd Redmond Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Pshaw! Only and inch lower than stock? Mines so low we had to make room for the diff to get higher than the body shell's belly pan. -----Original Message----- >From: fmccjr@aol.com >Sent: Jun 10, 2015 9:48 AM >To: Todd Redmond >Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" >Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels > >No, I didn't (...yet). I'd like to find a less "intrusive" solution (I worked like a dog to get those fenders as straight as I could!). > >The car is at least an inch lower than stock, but I'm sure there is a wheel (aftermarket) that will work! > >Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 10, 2015, at 8:43 AM, Todd Redmond wrote: >> >> I'm interested in hearing the responses. >> >> I'm sure it's been said, but did you roll the fenders? >> >> Todd Redmond >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:16 PM, fmccjr@aol.com wrote: >>> >>> Hi, a >>> Is there anyone out there who is racing a Tr3 (with steel fenders) who might share information about what wheels you are using? I have Avon 175/60/15 tires on TR6 rims, and the front fender sits right on the tire. No racing for me, yet! (No issues in the rear, in fact, I'm using 3/4" spacers). >>> I am a VSCCA member, and I'm stumped! ...The original 4 inchers won't do. >>> >>> What width and offset do I need to clear the front fenders and brakes with these tires? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Rick McCurdy >>> Newburgh, NY >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>> >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net >>> >>> >_______________________________________________ >fot@autox.team.net > >http://www.fot-racing.com > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/grandwazoo@earthlink.net > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 10 10:19:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC122587770 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:19:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.154]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A35A258764B for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:11:53 -0600 (MDT) t=1433952718; bh=7V+gKq8udB3Q+zlU/DI5MvPANMKDt6CoM6MAUKEeMyg=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From:Subject; b=K99DhvmKFSCtApuUl3MdAnwAjrZ9/qtPXMqoTypLenQe31YLBO3afhiu1jRIOsk6zmx/5oSM/QEpA9X7OS8iDtbDMsDHOpQD861aPw7PZrisJtwGs6dAbONfABgAD27gCxe6RGPNsMFV0qRrN/bz5+QHfgsxBMDwEXEvapeaaJsLT8VX7CXl9z9hCOe6EVgDRq05xuov9Ze6LaTFKbne5dp2gc3P2xvuEHhXavwpLJjIWVM8rk7pDnpAw8P+EY+DCspsF7DE+ALKOSZOhQGqNjBHUNU3jZasvEh6rnLG2AtyUDasOawd6iICstqSLYJrv8y9e/UcKFz+Ib13kr7fQg== Received: from [98.139.170.180] by nm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2015 16:11:58 -0000 Received: from [68.142.230.77] by tm23.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2015 16:11:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp234.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2015 16:11:58 -0000 btY3ucScAc88tCp8.ifsu2l7OsD_ktHJu8ocMsvflYkyXcFNo_nK1YMnZC4A epp8rq7NaqbVxzsRhljhXGBA8Xeprh5f8UxkDUlc9.Qanv2PamaAKEQJXydG tlQG_JzdGYDe1aM7dLbZiyNvLs3el3i6FKE02d6oRJRihjO1y529_ha_DSUR UB1QYAw9E5fYQRbRoWomj6rx5vL7QoGFfDQV8uEmHVSmKt_Ul_vYRT.tMpxN 0XZXkRgKWreXuyjgjaBCHZID4TL4KFUsnDqOYuhnBdpCv_2ozEP9JWtFW1p8 5VLQAEWpE2UVKCrZplf9FWJdmjaQIbc.l.pFma6YZNSz0DIVNuctzdBm0DlP mNoqd12a70FR.NEa.qMNqcVC6xe.WUYQMLtpkRVjb1x2rZUx8g6Qtk0xLo1a tdnqi15Xv.FLNFm90l.BhIlKyQucvBh3btcXH244IuzjYy3MTb78EmvYIf7C tLtulZdCFGuZ7YFYezpSVlejb1_uY1ji06K.H.eY- From: Mike Munson Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:07:31 -0500 References: <45907396-F3A6-4D64-9845-A6FD5A464859@aol.com> To: Todd Redmond Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels(Panasport) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Be forewarned, Panasport wheels design has changed! The ultra-lights are no longer available. They have redesigned them they say for more clearance for bigger caliper. They moved the mass (spokes) to the outside of the wheel. They also no longer have steel inserts at the lug mating surface. So, they made them cheaper, heavier and more expensive. I could have bought 2, 1/2 sets of Rotas for what I paid for this set. Mike Munson #28 EP TR6 > On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:43 AM, Todd Redmond wrote: > > I'm interested in hearing the responses. > > I'm sure it's been said, but did you roll the fenders? > > Todd Redmond > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:16 PM, fmccjr@aol.com wrote: >> >> Hi, a >> Is there anyone out there who is racing a Tr3 (with steel fenders) who might share information about what wheels you are using? I have Avon 175/60/15 tires on TR6 rims, and the front fender sits right on the tire. No racing for me, yet! (No issues in the rear, in fact, I'm using 3/4" spacers). >> I am a VSCCA member, and I'm stumped! ...The original 4 inchers won't do. >> >> What width and offset do I need to clear the front fenders and brakes with these tires? >> >> Thanks, >> Rick McCurdy >> Newburgh, NY >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> _____________________________ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 10 11:38:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573A12587AB5 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:38:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C31E2587AA9 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 11:38:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.228]) by resqmta-po-11v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id ehdB1q0044vw8ds01heGE5; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 17:38:16 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-503v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.178.3]) by resomta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id ehcG1q00X04nC6y01hcGBZ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 17:36:16 +0000 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 17:36:13 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: "Redmond, Todd" References: <45907396-F3A6-4D64-9845-A6FD5A464859@aol.com> Thread-Topic: Wheels Thread-Index: CQqjBlhmJ/mGFpZ+RQ5OQx+a8OfVfA== s=q20140121; t=1433957896; bh=ZooIbOCOD15+BxLEzLbRsqgDx1SiK+lf+ZfMKQBHptg=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=fmLqnL9C1wvQM4ur+TJ7yXpI96tKD/bnZGEPzn9eSnZbrzcMt2zznZFriVV9V6lhq gZBUOLmCpnqX7YUoEw28bstNoE9yS4hfHcjNxylZeZHCNCxx/BUGPhIO5UKsdQfkUW 6OXvlJTKuxqmlXqHx8eFgKMPEcB6dRrz+0GUPSCw/oZFxQ3uCVxHgJ0jUmyS3a6HPr Cl6l0nLKzpwepsFhXlcJ+wwWvWfw2dpECMBK/2PU73KeDrnTEuomeq6lJuKvWvjnVo NQthmLhtcD9Z/w89lfZlIwg3EmPA+BS4RQOtETAb2PPGfbMvIVoJdZgfTs2MJiBFkK 2scr+Mxt8vJsQ== Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8773369533495595046== boundary="----=_Part_9291707_1308372742.1433957773839" ------=_Part_9291707_1308372742.1433957773839 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Like Henry suggested, Spruell is the place to buy Panasports. You can check size and offsets by what Moss lists for our TR3s. 15x5.5 wheels are the rule for vintage racing, but 15x6 will work too and many run the 6s without a problem from the race group. 185-65-15 tires will just clear on the rear fenders, the fronts aren't usually a problem. 205-60s will contact the rear fenders slightly, so a slight amount of rolling the fender will do. It's best to have a pro do the rolling before painting with a wire in the roll. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Redmond" To: fmccjr@aol.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:43:19 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels I'm interested in hearing the responses. I'm sure it's been said, but did you roll the fenders? Todd Redmond Sent from my iPad > On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:16 PM, fmccjr@aol.com wrote: > > Hi, a > Is there anyone out there who is racing a Tr3 (with steel fenders) who might share information about what wheels you are using? I have Avon 175/60/15 tires on TR6 rims, and the front fender sits right on the tire. No racing for me, yet! (No issues in the rear, in fact, I'm using 3/4" spacers). > I am a VSCCA member, and I'm stumped! ...The original 4 inchers won't do. > > What width and offset do I need to clear the front fenders and brakes with these tires? > > Thanks, > Rick McCurdy > Newburgh, NY > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ------=_Part_9291707_1308372742.1433957773839 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Like Henry suggested, Spruell is the p= lace to buy Panasports.  You can check size and offsets by what Moss l= ists for our TR3s.  
15x5.5 whee= ls are the rule for vintage racing, but 15x6 will work too and many run the= 6s without a problem from the race group.  185-65-15 tires will just = clear on the rear fenders, the fronts aren't usually a problem.  205-6= 0s will contact the rear fenders slightly, so a slight amount of rolling th= e fender will do.  It's best to have a pro do the rolling before paint= ing with a wire in the roll.  
<= br>
Dave H.

From: "Todd Redmond" <alfetta95@optonline.net>
To: = fmccjr@aol.com
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesd= ay, June 10, 2015 5:43:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels
I'm interested in hearing the responses.

I'm sur= e it's been said, but did you roll the fenders?

Todd Redm= ond

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 9, 20= 15, at 6:16 PM, fmccjr@aol.com wrote:
>
> Hi, a
> Is the= re anyone out there who is racing a Tr3 (with steel fenders) who might shar= e information about what wheels you are using? I have Avon 175/60/15 tires = on TR6 rims, and the front fender sits right on the tire. No racing for me,= yet! (No issues in the rear, in fact, I'm using 3/4" spacers).
> I = am a VSCCA member,  and I'm stumped! ...The original 4 inchers won't d= o.
>
> What width and offset do I need to clear the front fen= ders and brakes with these tires?
>
> Thanks,
> Rick Mc= Curdy
> Newburgh, NY
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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[69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z19sm7037440obp.17.2015.06.10.10.50.03 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 10 Jun 2015 10:50:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 12:50:02 -0500 References: <45907396-F3A6-4D64-9845-A6FD5A464859@aol.com> <1735613161.9291708.1433957773839.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> To: davehogye Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0705214864790549878== --Apple-Mail=_66B9BE2F-DAF1-4AAD-A104-D05DFAD92178 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 Dave, you mentioned what was on my mind =E2=80=94 it=E2=80=99s been = decades since I owned a TR3 but I did restore a =E2=80=9956 and my = recollection is that there is just a rolled edge with a wire in it on a = TR3, not folded metal that will push out of the way. Duncan > On Jun 10, 2015, at 12:36 PM, davehogye wrote: >=20 > Like Henry suggested, Spruell is the place to buy Panasports. You can = check size and offsets by what Moss lists for our TR3s. =20 > 15x5.5 wheels are the rule for vintage racing, but 15x6 will work too = and many run the 6s without a problem from the race group. 185-65-15 = tires will just clear on the rear fenders, the fronts aren't usually a = problem. 205-60s will contact the rear fenders slightly, so a slight = amount of rolling the fender will do. It's best to have a pro do the = rolling before painting with a wire in the roll. =20 >=20 > Dave H. >=20 > From: "Todd Redmond" > To: fmccjr@aol.com > Cc: fot@autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:43:19 AM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels >=20 > I'm interested in hearing the responses.=20 >=20 > I'm sure it's been said, but did you roll the fenders? >=20 > Todd Redmond >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 > > On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:16 PM, fmccjr@aol.com wrote: > >=20 > > Hi, a > > Is there anyone out there who is racing a Tr3 (with steel fenders) = who might share information about what wheels you are using? I have Avon = 175/60/15 tires on TR6 rims, and the front fender sits right on the = tire. No racing for me, yet! (No issues in the rear, in fact, I'm using = 3/4" spacers).=20 > > I am a VSCCA member, and I'm stumped! ...The original 4 inchers = won't do.=20 > >=20 > > What width and offset do I need to clear the front fenders and = brakes with these tires? > >=20 > > Thanks,=20 > > Rick McCurdy > > Newburgh, NY > >=20 > > Sent from my iPhone > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > >=20 > > http://www.fot-racing.com > >=20 > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@optonline.net > >=20 > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/dlhogye@comcast.net >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_66B9BE2F-DAF1-4AAD-A104-D05DFAD92178 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 Dave, you mentioned what was on my mind =E2=80=94 it=E2=80=99s = been decades since I owned a TR3 but I did restore a =E2=80=9956 and my = recollection is that there is just a rolled edge with a wire in it on a = TR3, not folded metal that will push out of the way.

Duncan

On = Jun 10, 2015, at 12:36 PM, davehogye <dlhogye@comcast.net>= wrote:

Like Henry = suggested, Spruell is the place to buy Panasports.  You can check = size and offsets by what Moss lists for our TR3s.  
15x5.5 wheels are the rule for = vintage racing, but 15x6 will work too and many run the 6s without a = problem from the race group.  185-65-15 tires will just clear on = the rear fenders, the fronts aren't usually a problem.  205-60s = will contact the rear fenders slightly, so a slight amount of rolling = the fender will do.  It's best to have a pro do the rolling before = painting with a wire in the roll.  

Dave H.

From: "Todd Redmond" <alfetta95@optonline.net>
To:= fmccjr@aol.com
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:43:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels
I'm interested in hearing the responses.

I'm sure it's been said, = but did you roll the fenders?

Todd Redmond

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:16 PM, fmccjr@aol.com = wrote:
>
> Hi, a
> = Is there anyone out there who is racing a Tr3 (with steel fenders) who = might share information about what wheels you are using? I have Avon = 175/60/15 tires on TR6 rims, and the front fender sits right on the = tire. No racing for me, yet! (No issues in the rear, in fact, I'm using = 3/4" spacers).
> I am a VSCCA member,  and I'm = stumped! ...The original 4 inchers won't do.
>
> What width and offset do I need to clear the front = fenders and brakes with these tires?
>
> Thanks,
> Rick McCurdy
> Newburgh, NY
>
> Sent = from my iPhone
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= --Apple-Mail=_66B9BE2F-DAF1-4AAD-A104-D05DFAD92178-- --===============0705214864790549878== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0705214864790549878==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 10 13:26:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BAA82585CD2 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:26:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B62C02587D23 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 12:16:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.228]) by resqmta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id eiFP1q0034vw8ds01iGREi; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:16:25 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-503v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.178.3]) by resomta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id eiGR1q00104nC6y01iGRfY; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:16:25 +0000 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:16:24 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Duncan Charlton References: <45907396-F3A6-4D64-9845-A6FD5A464859@aol.com> <1735613161.9291708.1433957773839.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <943B6FE9-7B10-486C-ACB9-B030ADF8F507@gmail.com> Thread-Topic: Wheels Thread-Index: VUhtst0lEc8NtEmqxbo5buz9EhRrLg== s=q20140121; t=1433960185; bh=CYoPMd28UqjkTMTojU8essk7EddOdzVkXQrHvrySdR0=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=gba7qDuh13onl/AGUMekood8jplmOYz2QAmZKXeE8R+EEKKg4vbP8JVAzn04A+dhb CfIeYqldOXuUgvfEmEUsqFplNfpiq8JERW9KH3xmAEuOfGYQ0wVtvLjUoGQCXzmILI r4OYlVTh86jzX4GQe7dCUJauYqWuXY0CVbSoBK5Q80gukv2TbQ+3POKa3EmVrp55YK YMGJVNy2IerRaJlN0NUg2nFArit8I6MmsZ3iDYTD9domtr8dxyoTtMbUDz0GiuytC7 ZKVUTSqqx4InlP6HWWpuC45NLXCIttxDIwnPLazHG/5O2QSwwuAAdBUsvJX5oA8rJ0 cqAXxMggE5WQQ== Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5632941896798659138== boundary="----=_Part_9339657_1589530634.1433960184668" ------=_Part_9339657_1589530634.1433960184668 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Friends,=20 The front fenders on a TR3 have a rolled in wire from the factory. It's a n= ice touch to copy this on the rears. Jeff Snook's TR3 is like this and I wi= ll copy this soon. Doing this will eliminate tire clearance issues.=20 Dave=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duncan Charlton" =20 To: "davehogye" =20 Cc: "Todd Redmond" , "Friends of Triumph" =20 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:50:02 AM=20 Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels=20 Dave, you mentioned what was on my mind =E2=80=94 it=E2=80=99s been decades= since I owned a TR3 but I did restore a =E2=80=9956 and my recollection is= that there is just a rolled edge with a wire in it on a TR3, not folded me= tal that will push out of the way.=20 Duncan=20 On Jun 10, 2015, at 12:36 PM, davehogye < dlhogye@comcast.net > wrote:=20 Like Henry suggested, Spruell is the place to buy Panasports. You can check= size and offsets by what Moss lists for our TR3s.=20 15x5.5 wheels are the rule for vintage racing, but 15x6 will work too and m= any run the 6s without a problem from the race group. 185-65-15 tires will = just clear on the rear fenders, the fronts aren't usually a problem. 205-60= s will contact the rear fenders slightly, so a slight amount of rolling the= fender will do. It's best to have a pro do the rolling before painting wit= h a wire in the roll.=20 Dave H.=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Todd Redmond" < alfetta95@optonline.net >=20 To: fmccjr@aol.com=20 Cc: fot@autox.team.net=20 Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:43:19 AM=20 Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels=20 I'm interested in hearing the responses.=20 I'm sure it's been said, but did you roll the fenders?=20 Todd Redmond=20 Sent from my iPad=20 > On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:16 PM, fmccjr@aol.com wrote:=20 >=20 > Hi, a=20 > Is there anyone out there who is racing a Tr3 (with steel fenders) who mi= ght share information about what wheels you are using? I have Avon 175/60/1= 5 tires on TR6 rims, and the front fender sits right on the tire. No racing= for me, yet! (No issues in the rear, in fact, I'm using 3/4" spacers).=20 > I am a VSCCA member, and I'm stumped! ...The original 4 inchers won't do.= =20 >=20 > What width and offset do I need to clear the front fenders and brakes wit= h these tires?=20 >=20 > Thanks,=20 > Rick McCurdy=20 > Newburgh, NY=20 >=20 > Sent from my iPhone=20 > _______________________________________________=20 > fot@autox.team.net=20 >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com=20 >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive=20 > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums=20 > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@o= ptonline.net=20 >=20 >=20 _______________________________________________=20 fot@autox.team.net=20 http://www.fot-racing.com=20 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive=20 st.net=20 _______________________________________________=20 fot@autox.team.net=20 http://www.fot-racing.com=20 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive=20 on54@gmail.com=20 ------=_Part_9339657_1589530634.1433960184668 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Friends,
The front fenders on a TR3 have a rolled in wire from the factory.=  It's a nice touch to copy this on the rears.  Jeff Snook's TR3 = is like this and I will copy this soon.  Doing this will eliminate tir= e clearance issues.

Dave

From: "= Duncan Charlton" <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com>
To: "davehog= ye" <dlhogye@comcast.net>
Cc: "Todd Redmond" <alfetta95@= optonline.net>, "Friends of Triumph" <fot@autox.team.net>
Se= nt: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:50:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Fot] W= heels

Dave, you mentioned what was on my mind =E2=80=94 i= t=E2=80=99s been decades since I owned a TR3 but I did restore a =E2=80=995= 6 and my recollection is that there is just a rolled edge with a wire in it= on a TR3, not folded metal that will push out of the way.
<= br class=3D"">
Duncan

On Jun 10, 2015, at 12:36= PM, davehogye <dlhogye@comcast.ne= t> wrote:

Like Henry suggested, Spruell is the place to buy Panasports.  Y= ou can check size and offsets by what Moss lists for our TR3s.  
=
15x5.5 wheels are the rule for vintage racing, but 15x6 wil= l work too and many run the 6s without a problem from the race group.  = ;185-65-15 tires will just clear on the rear fenders, the fronts aren't usu= ally a problem.  205-60s will contact the rear fenders slightly, so a = slight amount of rolling the fender will do.  It's best to have a pro = do the rolling before painting with a wire in the roll.  

Dave H.
=
From: "Todd Red= mond" <alfetta95@optonline= .net>
To: fmccjr@aol.com
Cc: fot@autox.team.net=
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:43:19 AM<= br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels

I'm interested in hearing the responses. =

I'm sure it's been said= , but did you roll the fenders?

Todd Redmond

Sen= t from my iPad

> On J= un 9, 2015, at 6:16 PM, fmccjr@aol.com wrote:
>
> Hi, a
> Is there anyone out there who is racing= a Tr3 (with steel fenders) who might share information about what wheels y= ou are using? I have Avon 175/60/15 tires on TR6 rims, and the front fender= sits right on the tire. No racing for me, yet! (No issues in the rear, in = fact, I'm using 3/4" spacers).
> I am a VSCCA member, &nb= sp;and I'm stumped! ...The original 4 inchers won't do.
>=
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------=_Part_9339657_1589530634.1433960184668-- --===============5632941896798659138== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5632941896798659138==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 10 14:41:23 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B0E258530E for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:41:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f174.google.com (mail-ig0-f174.google.com [209.85.213.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252A12584864 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:38:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by igbpi8 with SMTP id pi8so43632162igb.0 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:38:55 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:thread-index:content-language; bh=hzf77ZSgo4b8UQFo4WqgXtXuJz8V5BXe1RUOCwGsyJQ=; b=SFE1+4vFpjk4hDk765HV8szfanI6fURsqnUUT0UNxCHKSUByk0cW/pgZNRVO9TMqxo 1CCWeDCdTb7uKvMishKj8I5Le9ZtehjOcQew+44iPE8cAl7lGZUeqdNisUS/ryjIwFDm gsmK9tOxrly2LXv2iUYjZ69ktB3of611e56jY1scvuZu0Bn5A7R3f4tPn+EBGOYYT4n4 W1DX9iUyDSgCQLnkYdCNMyInPvI4acAgr59Mu3vBXaF//iqXYCMVzOmIHT0cTEXAkB7i ZptpzbTLYddImdIGmxSI0j7BUfEdoTs1f0evDrly/p3xgWIut3/UEPVc+PnJOdFhaMfp Barg== Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SnookPC (cpe-71-72-104-70.columbus.res.rr.com. [71.72.104.70]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ot6sm3963804igb.11.2015.06.10.13.38.54 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 10 Jun 2015 13:38:54 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jeff Snook" To: Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 16:38:48 -0400 Thread-Index: AdCjvXQXvmkb7Ka+SsGNc/DPrVtJnQ== Content-Language: en-us Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] TR3 Wheels & Wheel Wanted Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Rick, et. al. I ran Panasport 6X15s on my TR3 for many years. I now have a new set of the ROTA 6X15s they sell for TR3s and TR4s. They fit fine with slightly different spacers than were used with the Panasports. I'm running Hoosier Speedster 185/65R15s on the ROTAs with no clearance problems. WHEEL WANTED: I have three of the 6X15 Panasports Model FS15E that are no longer available. I am looking for "one" of the FS models if anyone has one they would like to sell. That would give me a matching set of four that I could use for a spare set of wheels/tires. Then I could be like TR4 "hot shoe" Mark Wheatley and rotate between sets based on wear!! Thanks! Jeff Snook http://www.snooksdreamcars.com 419-344-0319 (Mobile) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 10 14:52:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1672585614 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:52:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F6F72584864 for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:47:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mad02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mad02.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.208]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E82FC705BD8F6; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 16:47:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-lga03a.mail.aol.com (core-lga03.mail.aol.com [10.76.11.3]) by mtaomg-mad02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id BD25B38000085; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 16:47:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 98.77.32.177 by webprd-a65.mail.aol.com (10.72.57.75) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 10 Jun 2015 16:47:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 16:47:41 -0400 From: fubog1 To: jeffsnook01@gmail.com, fmccjr@aol.com References: <00a401d0a3bd$74d4e480$5e7ead80$@com> x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1433969261; bh=buQm3Q7omWD7MCVjciDCkrRIehUna7OSFbiTTuQoHvc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=E7GRAPtsFo1ckxnDI5Za98rhW0g/OAlfp1S4NrXe1LXa11mOdp17ZuxNzkLLu8qYl ua1/9nvJjlCdrmZas/zImkyotWN8Wpx2jHXEsv0Ivz3UmGZceInqfGOV/BChmBp0dy ++gvo2ytYz7UQ3KPW6HYDSjd0GWE+rZvKHJxWIKI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1addd05578a26d1570 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3 Wheels & Wheel Wanted Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6998656390276532105== boundary="----=_Part_127337_1769942099.1433969261630" ------=_Part_127337_1769942099.1433969261630 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Uhhh, one caution though, just speculating... coincidentally... both Jeffs & Mikes cars have no more lip on the rear fenders, as has been mentioned, and there MIGHT be a little more room back there than a stock TR-3... Glen -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Snook To: fmccjr Cc: fot Sent: Wed, Jun 10, 2015 4:40 pm Subject: [Fot] TR3 Wheels & Wheel Wanted Rick, et. al. I ran Panasport 6X15s on my TR3 for many years. I now have a new set of the ROTA 6X15s they sell for TR3s and TR4s. They fit fine with slightly different spacers than were used with the Panasports. I'm running Hoosier Speedster 185/65R15s on the ROTAs with no clearance problems. WHEEL WANTED: I have three of the 6X15 Panasports Model FS15E that are no longer available. I am looking for "one" of the FS models if anyone has one they would like to sell. That would give me a matching set of four that I could use for a spare set of wheels/tires. Then I could be like TR4 "hot shoe" Mark Wheatley and rotate between sets based on wear!! Thanks! Jeff Snook http://www.snooksdreamcars.com 419-344-0319 (Mobile) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1@aol.com ------=_Part_127337_1769942099.1433969261630 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Uhhh, one caution though, just speculating... coincidentally... both Jeffs & Mikes cars have no more lip on the rear fenders, as has been mentioned, and there MIGHT be a little more room back there than a stock TR-3...

Glen 



-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Snook <jeffsnook01@gmail.com>
To: fmccjr <fmccjr@aol.com>
Cc: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Jun 10, 2015 4:40 pm
Subject: [Fot] TR3 Wheels & Wheel Wanted

Rick, et. al.

I ran Panasport 6X15s on my TR3 for many years.  I now have a
new set of the
ROTA 6X15s they sell for TR3s and TR4s.  They fit fine with
slightly
different spacers than were used with the Panasports.  I'm running
Hoosier
Speedster 185/65R15s on the ROTAs with no clearance problems.

WHEEL
WANTED:  I have three of the 6X15 Panasports Model FS15E that are no
longer
available.  I am looking for "one" of the FS models if anyone has one
they
would like to sell.  That would give me a matching set of four that I
could use
for a spare set of wheels/tires.  Then I could be like TR4 "hot
shoe" Mark
Wheatley and rotate between sets based on wear!!

Thanks!

Jeff
Snook
http://www.snooksdreamcars.com
419-344-0319
(Mobile)



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Remember the wheel backspace?  I can't remember if I had breakfast (until I look in the mirror).
 
Bill
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Yellow04 <yellow04@tr4racer.com>
To: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Jun 10, 2015 2:38 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels

Old Blue sits on Panasport Ultra Light racing wheels, 5.5X15. Not sure of the
backspacing, maybe Bill remembers?


http://www.spruellmotorsport.com/15x55-panasport-ultra-light-racing-wheel-p-68.html



>
-----Original Message-----
> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of
> fmccjr@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 6:17 PM
> To:
fot@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot] Wheels
> 
> Hi, a
> Is there anyone out
there who is racing a Tr3 (with steel fenders) who might
> share information
about what wheels you are using? I have Avon 175/60/15
> tires on TR6 rims, and
the front fender sits right on the tire. No racing for me,
> yet! (No issues in
the rear, in fact, I'm using 3/4" spacers).
> I am a VSCCA member,  and I'm
stumped! ...The original 4 inchers won't do.
> 
> What width and offset do I
need to clear the front fenders and brakes with
> these tires?
> 
>
Thanks,
> Rick McCurdy
> Newburgh, NY
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com ---- billdentin@aol.com wrote: > > Remember the wheel backspace? I can't remember if I had breakfast (until I look in the mirror). > > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: Yellow04 > To: fot > Sent: Wed, Jun 10, 2015 2:38 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels > > > Old Blue sits on Panasport Ultra Light racing wheels, 5.5X15. Not sure of the > backspacing, maybe Bill remembers? > > > http://www.spruellmotorsport.com/15x55-panasport-ultra-light-racing-wheel-p-68.html > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of > > fmccjr@aol.com > > Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 6:17 PM > > To: > fot@autox.team.net > > Subject: [Fot] Wheels > > > > Hi, a > > Is there anyone out > there who is racing a Tr3 (with steel fenders) who might > > share information > about what wheels you are using? I have Avon 175/60/15 > > tires on TR6 rims, and > the front fender sits right on the tire. No racing for me, > > yet! (No issues in > the rear, in fact, I'm using 3/4" spacers). > > I am a VSCCA member, and I'm > stumped! ...The original 4 inchers won't do. > > > > What width and offset do I > need to clear the front fenders and brakes with > > these tires? > > > > > Thanks, > > Rick McCurdy > > Newburgh, NY > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/yellow04@tr4racer.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: > http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin@aol.com > > > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 10 15:52:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC94D258798A for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:52:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p01c11o149.mxlogic.net (p01c11o149.mxlogic.net [208.65.144.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40BD2258756B for ; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:43:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO p01c11o149.mxlogic.net) by p01c11o149.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.4.0-1) with ESMTP id 07fa8755.2aacf0a00940.2494444.00-520.6738787.p01c11o149.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:43:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] by p01c11o149.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.4.0-1) over TLS secured channel with SMTP id 86fa8755.0.2493845.00-393.6738595.p01c11o149.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Wed, 10 Jun 2015 15:43:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::dc8d:98d4:a80c:1957]) by ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Wed, 10 Jun 2015 17:43:01 -0400 From: John Hasty To: davehogye Thread-Topic: [Fot] Wheels Thread-Index: AQHQo8ZsTKfDthxeO0W2uHVwPG6TCQ== Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 21:43:01 +0000 References: <45907396-F3A6-4D64-9845-A6FD5A464859@aol.com> <1735613161.9291708.1433957773839.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <943B6FE9-7B10-486C-ACB9-B030ADF8F507@gmail.com>, <544796958.9339658.1433960184669.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-exclaimer-md-config: cee22798-72e9-40a9-949b-68671b12e107 Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mine too Sent from my iPhone e@comcast.net>> wrote: Friends, The front fenders on a TR3 have a rolled in wire from the factory. It's a = nice touch to copy this on the rears. Jeff Snook's TR3 is like this and I = will copy this soon. Doing this will eliminate tire clearance issues. Dave ________________________________ 54@gmail.com>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 10:50:02 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels Dave, you mentioned what was on my mind =97 it=92s been decades since I own= ed a TR3 but I did restore a =9256 and my recollection is that there is jus= t a rolled edge with a wire in it on a TR3, not folded metal that will push= out of the way. Duncan @comcast.net>> wrote: Like Henry suggested, Spruell is the place to buy Panasports. You can chec= k size and offsets by what Moss lists for our TR3s. 15x5.5 wheels are the rule for vintage racing, but 15x6 will work too and m= any run the 6s without a problem from the race group. 185-65-15 tires will= just clear on the rear fenders, the fronts aren't usually a problem. 205-= 60s will contact the rear fenders slightly, so a slight amount of rolling t= he fender will do. It's best to have a pro do the rolling before painting = with a wire in the roll. Dave H. ________________________________ t>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 5:43:19 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels I'm interested in hearing the responses. I'm sure it's been said, but did you roll the fenders? Todd Redmond Sent from my iPad > > Hi, a > Is there anyone out there who is racing a Tr3 (with steel fenders) who mi= ght share information about what wheels you are using? I have Avon 175/60/1= 5 tires on TR6 rims, and the front fender sits right on the tire. No racing= for me, yet! (No issues in the rear, in fact, I'm using 3/4" spacers). > I am a VSCCA member, and I'm stumped! ...The original 4 inchers won't do. > > What width and offset do I need to clear the front fenders and brakes wit= h these tires? > > Thanks, > Rick McCurdy > Newburgh, NY > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/alfetta95@o= ptonline.net > > _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive st.net _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive on54@gmail.com _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive w.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive eam.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 11 12:28:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B026625876C2 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 12:28:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94C22584628 for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 12:23:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([71.116.26.215]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NPS005KQLQIPM40@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 11 Jun 2015 13:23:07 -0500 (CDT) a=IJ9pWlWUkYEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=XAFQembCKUMA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=xRfjoxBpAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=lxd2buMdNv4f5KZXgt0A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Mike Munson" , "Todd Redmond" References: <45907396-F3A6-4D64-9845-A6FD5A464859@aol.com> <40DF02FE-2F39-4C59-9C37-1BF1D27A12B7@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:23:05 -0400 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels(Panasport) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Actually I did buy a set of Rotas a few years back. Reasonable price and seem to work fine. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Munson" To: "Todd Redmond" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 12:07 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels(Panasport) > Be forewarned, Panasport wheels design has changed! > The ultra-lights are no longer available. They have redesigned them they > say for more clearance for bigger caliper. They moved the mass (spokes) to > the outside of the wheel. They also no longer have steel inserts at the > lug mating surface. So, they made them cheaper, heavier and more > expensive. I could have bought 2, 1/2 sets of Rotas for what I paid for > this set. > > Mike Munson > #28 EP TR6 > >> On Jun 10, 2015, at 7:43 AM, Todd Redmond >> wrote: >> >> I'm interested in hearing the responses. >> >> I'm sure it's been said, but did you roll the fenders? >> >> Todd Redmond >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Jun 9, 2015, at 6:16 PM, fmccjr@aol.com wrote: >>> >>> Hi, a >>> Is there anyone out there who is racing a Tr3 (with steel fenders) who >>> might share information about what wheels you are using? I have Avon >>> 175/60/15 tires on TR6 rims, and the front fender sits right on the >>> tire. No racing for me, yet! (No issues in the rear, in fact, I'm using >>> 3/4" spacers). >>> I am a VSCCA member, and I'm stumped! ...The original 4 inchers won't >>> do. >>> >>> What width and offset do I need to clear the front fenders and brakes >>> with these tires? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Rick McCurdy >>> Newburgh, NY >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _____________________________ > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 13 12:08:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123012588210 for ; Sat, 13 Jun 2015 12:08:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.165]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A5F2584B9A for ; Sat, 13 Jun 2015 12:04:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.233]) by resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id fu4J1q00852QWKC01u4JDs; Sat, 13 Jun 2015 18:04:18 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.8] ([24.5.210.5]) by resomta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id fu4J1q00307Y4z401u4JwY; Sat, 13 Jun 2015 18:04:18 +0000 From: Dave Hogye Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 11:04:17 -0700 To: Friends of Friends of Triumph s=q20140121; t=1434218658; bh=1AqWOPFAAfz6HE2IzdXLXyax05UgLIV2XyrEhgRoXos=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To: Mime-Version; b=FGLvzt3f1gFXcSAUxFthwHfHv28A/cLiqN0gV9tIBLe9mChDVCDVTvncsBrb/y4Kw 8lCXiaRrx4R/Y+fLPdGDUlaqrjvTbyQXWM37ylZWoYC1MwvJghco99ITPlYFo7xBMx Gunpqhm0ffwjdzGqq7nOIGxidOWOLflJnjeI6TDQxm0UeBVoWG5ybNLPYbDIJ9OluS /YMDgXGXBPWlX7rja2PAqm3Gi10kyRfQIpmHJ8TLyjt4z5fMN85yuRmWLQAV8P3cME 3uw9GgYmX4IVhTtEBdEhA1BZjyy94yFOfdsTl2eIuYjFgvbpYB6S4s9QOFrzCAbXRE y4p6hRb2g5Beg== Subject: [Fot] TR3 qualifying race at Laguna Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3515235974181270392== --Apple-Mail-17-644924655 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=us-ascii Hello Friends, Here is the link to the quali race during the recent HMSA event at = Laguna Seca. There is a lot of action in the video. I had some close competition. = Finally got by the Ferrari 250TR after he locked the brakes going into = turn 5... I posted my fastest lap of the event durning this lap, a = 1:56.2. =20 There is a fast Elva Courier that takes an aggressive move on the = Ferrari and almost pops it in the door. The Ferrari driver shakes his = fist at the guy as he passes him back under power. In defense of the = Elva driver, the Ferrari driver took a similar line into turn eleven on = most laps, leaving the inside line wide open, then he'd shoot across to = the apex. My TR3 was handling pretty good after a front spring and shock change = before the event. The Tuesday and Wednesday races were relatively uneventful after = positions settled in the early laps. =20 Please enjoy Dave H. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DJKgu2DyVYDw --Apple-Mail-17-644924655 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=us-ascii
Hello = Friends,
Here is the link to the quali race = during the recent HMSA event at Laguna Seca.
There is a lot of action in the video.  I had = some close competition.  Finally got by the Ferrari 250TR after he = locked the brakes going into turn 5... I posted my fastest lap of the = event durning this lap, a 1:56.2.  
There is a = fast Elva Courier that takes an aggressive move on the Ferrari and = almost pops it in the door.  The Ferrari driver shakes his fist at = the guy as he passes him back under power.  In defense of the Elva = driver, the Ferrari driver took a similar line into turn eleven on most = laps, leaving the inside line wide open, then he'd shoot across to the = apex.
My TR3 was handling pretty good after a front = spring and shock change before the event.
The = Tuesday and Wednesday races were relatively uneventful after positions = settled in the early laps.  
Please = enjoy

Dave = H.

https://www.youtube= .com/watch?v=3DJKgu2DyVYDw

= --Apple-Mail-17-644924655-- --===============3515235974181270392== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3515235974181270392==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 14 15:33:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FBB25849A9 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:33:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm1-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm1-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B4F2580999 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:26:14 -0600 (MDT) t=1434317181; bh=qKQliMoToTuKiW62NZK9RlYOxjSenlSQpUcZKhHvMQM=; h=To:From:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=hf459tQKqesX9MQ7X8HrEd7/HU7ZfA8c5+8iRDOCEzmvf7cf5OGnf0jdYIzAi5vFna8GEE7us58um7c069IkPMoAvudMOW7NBaseuQgfxLtFlLp80nsTxpa3UyEOWxzi6Cuta5DULhx4posAkSYiJpH0YQUnWvttVvO5QHTtsQevNQeZ/Fp09IQu9c7SqjE5U1Obv0Lzv/mYRH2Mz9ssS+CEKqVuGsqNutpq1nO7MgCk7Qry6NH4+ZWrGnFDp1is0ikRp44S+Vx7tMliTAp4Xhvh9VscfSC1D5f2uCujfHP9+goiU73nhLuomyuSov9Os5+K+ZNRxgiFdDXjceP4Ag== Received: from [98.138.100.116] by nm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jun 2015 21:26:21 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.47] by tm107.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jun 2015 21:26:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jun 2015 21:26:21 -0000 drfZR6Ue8jtMEc5mSPhV06GcbO0O8r6hOmv.we3.Ql3XX_cQ4_OuATRt5_mq JZQ9xf9ywT5FOqverw0Wy1gf7ZCPIrGpU10OzqBcZBjJipqF4sWRGIoJ8Qu2 yGIEOH5aCMMxYMIljbHmzUPZwzyOj3pc_pyipddpxmJH64E6oh_P0Vixku7z t2Ah8RZgLLe33RY.puimDUl.sCCF6rzKuQkdT0a0w5JCEQK3nsdmHyzCdt_L HOIJ89F6WDXltoQCcmxhVkMyRAuMMohw24lm7DxmPq5PfQBxj9CwYbR2oQj7 USdEZl5yTE2WDAwYgJtix_yYWLIYwH7yvvVxnM1vSxOyP2M57t2OqdIg75NX xxaqd2V9XNM8aVIQeu9HLcwSTPF90Fm0RU8G3sF_CUmlI18AmIAzcv6aD1OL JYKpB44fZSQhZzdxp58IkVGpfWKqe6QYblx44.1_MiYk0Dkjbw8sVA00CVYF chAWXT38iyD.rUWuMx7Wmd6WW2FJksAbHjdqCxvny To: "fot@autox.team.net" From: Brian Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 17:26:07 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Triumph tie rod cup Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1031444943650411806== boundary="_85CF4D0D-40F6-4A3C-B014-D52543E2C03F_" --_85CF4D0D-40F6-4A3C-B014-D52543E2C03F_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What are folks using in gt6 & spitfire steering racks for the cup the tie r= od goes into on the rack? I used to run the steel cups but had an issue and= put in a plastic cup. The plastic cup has play in it after not much use. Thanks, Brian = --_85CF4D0D-40F6-4A3C-B014-D52543E2C03F_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What are folks using in gt6 & spitfire steerin= g racks for the cup the tie rod goes into on the rack? I used to run the st= eel cups but had an issue and put in a plastic cup. The plastic cup has pla= y in it after not much use.
Thanks,
Brian
= --_85CF4D0D-40F6-4A3C-B014-D52543E2C03F_-- --===============1031444943650411806== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1031444943650411806==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 14 15:45:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB2E25857FC for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:45:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p14im-asmtp001.me.com (nk11p14im-asmtp001.me.com [17.158.72.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA19B2580706 for ; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 15:43:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from new-host-3.home (pool-108-16-127-157.phlapa.fios.verizon.net [108.16.127.157]) by nk11p14im-asmtp001.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.35.0 64bit (built Dec 4 2014)) with ESMTPSA id <0NPY0021DEZF9W20@nk11p14im-asmtp001.me.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 21:42:53 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.14.151,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-06-14_03:2015-06-11,2015-06-14,1970-01-01 signatures=0 suspectscore=33 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1412110000 definitions=main-1506140401 From: Scott Janzen Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 17:42:50 -0400 References: <423702.70464.bm@smtp115.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Brian Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph tie rod cup Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5877441989269462191== boundary="Apple-Mail=_3C4D455A-3CBF-4FB6-B60A-01DD1D5B0EA9" --Apple-Mail=_3C4D455A-3CBF-4FB6-B60A-01DD1D5B0EA9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=windows-1252 I use the original steel cups. Disassembled, inspected and adjusted my = GT6 rack this past winter. Procedure described in manual is good; shims = for adjustment of cups and rack free play are available from the better = suppliers. I found that with the wear in the center of the rack, I had = to set for bind at the far left and right and then the center is a = little loose. Do it the other way and the rack won't move at the = extremes. On Jun 14, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Brian wrote: What are folks using in gt6 & spitfire steering racks for the cup the = tie rod goes into on the rack? I used to run the steel cups but had an = issue and put in a plastic cup. The plastic cup has play in it after not = much use. Thanks, Brian _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/sjanzen@me.com --Apple-Mail=_3C4D455A-3CBF-4FB6-B60A-01DD1D5B0EA9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=windows-1252 I use = the original steel cups.  Disassembled, inspected and adjusted my = GT6 rack this past winter.  Procedure described in manual is good; = shims for adjustment of cups and rack free play are available from the = better suppliers.   I found that with the wear in the center of the = rack, I had to set for bind at the far left and right and then the = center is a little loose.  Do it the other way and the rack won't = move at the extremes.

On Jun 14, 2015, at 5:26 PM, = Brian wrote:

What are folks using in gt6 & = spitfire steering racks for the cup the tie rod goes into on the rack? I = used to run the steel cups but had an issue and put in a plastic cup. = The plastic cup has play in it after not much use.
Thanks,
Brian =
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= --Apple-Mail=_3C4D455A-3CBF-4FB6-B60A-01DD1D5B0EA9-- --===============5877441989269462191== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5877441989269462191==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 15 10:05:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C1D25854A9 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:05:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.165]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D7625849FE for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 09:55:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.228]) by resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id gfvF1q00B4vw8ds01fvjED; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:55:43 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-208v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.218]) by resomta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id gfvj1q0014j68Km01fvjYw; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:55:43 +0000 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:55:42 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: fot Thread-Topic: TR4 High speed driveline vibration Thread-Index: bBL6pnFuWnm3aG1watjtE6QMl9WQUw== s=q20140121; t=1434383743; bh=2MfhvaC98RuGzDwsjvO4HMxuRGB0I9L1Iy1+BIo6DZw=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=l1JtwGV/BFfeMWEFfpH4SaK5Ih6sAVd+//7lDrvYlLZtXQnbrhbz3Nw3y/EpetWQG aeUtO5+AoW9T/Cxk9W//qfy78kJI4RHIMN8duX0xaGY2Jn4JI1eQ1TUnuf83pLLnhd I9meXpPWXXMrUn9/xloXIj4OT1LLem2obLnxmAYot1wDD8qrl+F3bECZnmfIJfszzn ZHdT8sqlsN5U85/ciLRmsR+GHhZGlXVi5HsI+DSqEk1Ow+OgsQ9X0e/lr0mIgmD1r9 2IvyOz34NIcP1pssYf/o8WUfh4lhfDnNRlN9uuZG2HJnW+O8R4/bdcuDlMNt5zzYwv anqPGFetZoLbw== Subject: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5209864979376923439== boundary="----=_Part_29150193_1172879380.1434383742905" ------=_Part_29150193_1172879380.1434383742905 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FoT, I have a driveline vibration that doesn't start up until I get to about 95- 100 MPH. I figured I would start with the driveshaft before looking into the diff or OD/trans. I have an IRS car with Richard Good CV axles and hubs so it's very un likely its that but I will inspect them. I'm wondering if anybody has any advice on high speed vibration diagnosis or detection. What I'm wondering is even if it is the driveshaft how would I know with it sitting on my bench. Any help would, as always be greatly appreciated. Jim g ------=_Part_29150193_1172879380.1434383742905 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
FoT,
I have a driveline vibration that doesn't start up until I get to about 95- 100 MPH. I figured I would start with the driveshaft
before looking into the diff or OD/trans. I have an IRS car with Richard Good CV axles and hubs so it's very un likely its that but
I will inspect them. I'm wondering if anybody has any advice on high speed vibration diagnosis or detection.
What I'm wondering is even if it is the driveshaft how would I know with it sitting on my bench.
Any help would, as always be greatly appreciated.
Jim g
------=_Part_29150193_1172879380.1434383742905-- --===============5209864979376923439== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5209864979376923439==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 15 10:32:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5AC62585EAD for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:32:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm20-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (unknown [98.136.217.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65BA52584CD2 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:18:34 -0600 (MDT) t=1434385111; bh=3EqTG2FOCCr88TfMZQd4K06S3zbpe+EUL1rWvGcHspE=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=MIe/9s8NE+H2DQIgwZjZXUVTMRqFI2tGcLOCj8Dmxfbjyg/FqSQz0xsD+R9v3LQcbN6tPAGk123ws6e0i+s+GDveG8WsAsQcvylGYK8RDVcSC0FAeSMHMzLBYRsPUz+HXJ8nnZtCRRqg0DGQriwlLwLe7DYgZ/KLmTnNjmdcjwsKhDnYU7932442eoAzWsNJgp0XM+egzSsUEhNnX0yWPSsy83yoEoOyXyHE2Lc504Db/bA3m0JhM8KwZVgSdqJfug8/mvnBWdAwaGxT0SY7+Ho0hAmplASsQ8I9YzVYqRLMtVLU/11CWvC/3YBNVQ3ChZ2ytNELtG/mgOUjBRvWig== Received: from [98.137.12.191] by nm20.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jun 2015 16:18:31 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.244] by tm12.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jun 2015 16:18:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1052.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jun 2015 16:18:31 -0000 NZMnBVpZ9mFcz_vjzKj0ZdxnHX1RIsPNqqWxzOusFOGl2T7its8D1n_7ZKCHA0K_yu0CmdNBoayU ee3r8Am0GwlPbHs80fg2qMB8JWZX872N01bs268GO_pmwTKzkpWKisZxAZ6K_obgjUad9OJa.YvA 9t1jWVdH2ah_3NQ.6nwADo3qtnDedmoJdXRw293sli2B2Zu7Tfci0ys9Ncklxq_iJiDlVZs0YNqw 0En74U88l8eNOwEdBcEXJxEd2OXDylnkHQFkhNPYO4oaRGe1.hHmMyw1D9TDmoBG4IQkyG_nCL5y tKGiM6HTm7Y.blpRwAIJGuYPkEv5z0gpQXWQi9kHpHnvRDoYXbTFeqG14osEkqU0d_nfZG6REuYY D_2a.JYpRj0ZGOaWoKb7VSGlw1xj_DjtTVRYZCYgLt9WSfY1tUe_cNhYYxcwYs2RAlbuTdxs.8td pa_U0GWIE Received: by 216.39.60.200; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:18:30 +0000 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:18:30 +0000 (UTC) From: Jack Wheeler To: "toodamnfunky@comcast.net" References: <831343847.29150194.1434383742906.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6815376102715632983== boundary="----=_Part_1600407_1153112090.1434385110417" ------=_Part_1600407_1153112090.1434385110417 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had a high speed vibration years ago with my TR-4A IRS.=C2=A0 It was caus= ing my engine to miss.=C2=A0 At the suggestion of an engineer friend, i too= k the driveshaft to a clutch and driveshaft company to have it balanced.=C2= =A0 I'm not sure how closely the factory balanced them, or if someone using= the driveshaft prior to me had done something to get it out of balance.=C2= =A0 Anyway, after having it balanced, the vibration, and the high speed mis= s went away.=C2=A0 Problem solved. Jack=20 From: "toodamnfunky@comcast.net" To: fot =20 Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 11:55 AM Subject: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration =20 FoT, I have a driveline vibration that doesn't start up until I get to about 95-= 100 MPH. I figured I would start with the driveshaftbefore looking into th= e diff or OD/trans. I have an IRS car with Richard Good CV axles and hubs s= o it's very un likely its that butI will inspect them. I'm wondering if any= body has any advice on high speed vibration diagnosis or detection.What I'm= wondering is even if it is the driveshaft how would I know with it sitting= on my bench. Any help would, as always be greatly appreciated.Jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive yahoo.com ------=_Part_1600407_1153112090.1434385110417 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I had a high speed vibration ye= ars ago with my TR-4A IRS.  It was causing my engine to miss.  At= the suggestion of an engineer friend, i took the driveshaft to a clutch an= d driveshaft company to have it balanced.  I'm not sure how closely th= e factory balanced them, or if someone using the driveshaft prior to me had= done something to get it out of balance.  Anyway, after having it bal= anced, the vibration, and the high speed miss went away.  Problem solv= ed.
<= span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1434194137202_166934">
Jack

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Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 11:55 AM
Subject: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration

FoT,
I have a driveline vibration = that doesn't start up until I get to about 95- 100 MPH. I figured I would s= tart with the driveshaft
before looking into the diff = or OD/trans. I have an IRS car with Richard Good CV axles and hubs so it's = very un likely its that but
I will inspect them. I'm wond= ering if anybody has any advice on high speed vibration diagnosis or detect= ion.
What I'm wondering is even if= it is the driveshaft how would I know with it sitting on my bench.
Any help would, as always be = greatly appreciated.
Jim g
=
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------=_Part_1600407_1153112090.1434385110417-- --===============6815376102715632983== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6815376102715632983==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 15 10:35:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6BF258605D for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:35:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from e39.co.us.ibm.com (e39.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 668612584EE9 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:23:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from /spool/local by e39.co.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted for from ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:23:48 -0600 Received: from d01dlp01.pok.ibm.com (9.56.250.166) by e39.co.us.ibm.com (192.168.1.139) with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:23:46 -0600 Received: from b01cxnp22035.gho.pok.ibm.com (b01cxnp22035.gho.pok.ibm.com [9.57.198.25]) by d01dlp01.pok.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D5638C8046 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:23:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from d01av03.pok.ibm.com (d01av03.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.217]) by b01cxnp22035.gho.pok.ibm.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id t5FGNkb651707942 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:23:46 GMT Received: from d01av03.pok.ibm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by d01av03.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id t5FGNjK6030805 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:23:46 -0400 Received: from d01ml099.pok.ibm.com (d01ml099.pok.ibm.com [9.63.8.34]) by d01av03.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/NCO v10.0 AVin) with ESMTP id t5FGNjAb030780 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:23:45 -0400 type=4; name=$KeepSent To: fot@autox.team.net From: George Harmuth Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:23:44 -0400 February 25, 2015) at 06/15/2015 12:23:46 x-cbid: 15061516-0033-0000-0000-000004D8F03B Subject: [Fot] Triumph TR4 (TRS) - 1961 Le Mans 24hrs Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7138678055892795320== Boundary="0__=0ABBF4F6DFCA28358f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBF4F6DFCA2835" Content-Disposition: inline --0__=0ABBF4F6DFCA28358f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBF4F6DFCA2835 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable This may have been posted here in the past but it's still interesting t= o watch. A Standard- Triumph promo video of the 3 car Triumph TR4 effort = in the 1961 LeMans race. Driver change is quick, no belts required but the= y do put a seal on the gas cap to make sure no one is adding anything to the= tank, somewhere on the track, outside of the approved fuel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVGfQOLFHgYE&feature=3Dyoutu.be Thanks to Hemmings for publishing this. G. Michael Harmuth= --0__=0ABBF4F6DFCA28358f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBF4F6DFCA2835 Content-Disposition: inline Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

This may have been posted here = in the past but it's still interesting to watch. A Standard- Triumph pr= omo video of the 3 car Triumph TR4 effort in the 1961 LeMans race. Driv= er change is quick, no belts required but they do put a seal on the gas= cap to make sure no one is adding anything to the tank, somewhere on t= he track, outside of the approved fuel.

https://www.youtube.com/watc= h?v=3DVGfQOLFHgYE&feature=3Dyoutu.be

Thanks to Hemmings for publishing = this.


G. Michael Harmuth
= --0__=0ABBF4F6DFCA28358f9e8a93df938690918c0ABBF4F6DFCA2835-- --===============7138678055892795320== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============7138678055892795320==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 15 10:37:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CA425862C2 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:37:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from COL004-OMC2S12.hotmail.com (col004-omc2s12.hotmail.com [65.55.34.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31102585F8C for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:35:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL130-DS14 ([65.55.34.72]) by COL004-OMC2S12.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Mon, 15 Jun 2015 09:35:46 -0700 From: "Terry Stetler" To: "fot" , References: <831343847.29150194.1434383742906.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:35:41 -0400 Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:35:41 -0400 FILETIME=[5446AB20:01D0A789] Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============5679479542356911404== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01D0A767.CA785C20" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01D0A767.CA785C20 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 Very first thing to check are the U-Joints. If they are worn the shaft = will spin in an eccentric pattern and cause your vibration. If the = joints are OK take it to a good driveline shop and have it balanced, and = replace the U-Joints anyway while the shaft is out of the car. =20 Terry Stetler ----- Original Message -----=20 Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 11:55 AM Subject: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration FoT, I have a driveline vibration that doesn't start up until I get to about = 95- 100 MPH. I figured I would start with the driveshaft before looking into the diff or OD/trans. I have an IRS car with Richard = Good CV axles and hubs so it's very un likely its that but I will inspect them. I'm wondering if anybody has any advice on high = speed vibration diagnosis or detection. What I'm wondering is even if it is the driveshaft how would I know with = it sitting on my bench.=20 Any help would, as always be greatly appreciated. Jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tlizzard@msn.com ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01D0A767.CA785C20 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF = =20 =20

Very first thing to check are the U-Joints.   If they are = worn=20 the shaft will spin in an eccentric pattern and cause your=20 vibration.   If the joints are OK take it to a good driveline = shop and=20 have it balanced, and replace the U-Joints anyway while the shaft is out = of the=20 car.
 
Terry Stetler
-----=20 Original Message -----
To:=20 fot=20
Sent:=20 Monday, June 15, 2015 11:55 AM
Subject:=20 [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration

FoT,
I have a driveline vibration that doesn't start up until I get to = about=20 95- 100 MPH. I figured I would start with the driveshaft
before looking into the diff or OD/trans. I have an IRS car with = Richard=20 Good CV axles and hubs so it's very un likely its that but
I will inspect them. I'm wondering if anybody has any advice on = high=20 speed vibration diagnosis or detection.
What I'm wondering is even if it is the driveshaft how would I = know with=20 it sitting on my bench.
Any help would, as always be greatly appreciated.
Jim=20 = g
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------=_NextPart_000_001D_01D0A767.CA785C20-- --===============5679479542356911404== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5679479542356911404==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 15 10:54:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13797258653C for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:54:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F3725857F1 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:53:50 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge02 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:63584] helo=cdptpa-web06) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 53/DB-15023-6230F755; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:53:58 +0000 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:53:58 +0000 From: To: fot@autox.team.net, George Harmuth Sensitivity: Normal Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:53:58 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph TR4 (TRS) - 1961 Le Mans 24hrs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net There is a surprising little tidbit of hand work at about 2:35 in...... Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com ---- George Harmuth wrote: > > > This may have been posted here in the past but it's still interesting to > watch. A Standard- Triumph promo video of the 3 car Triumph TR4 effort in > the 1961 LeMans race. Driver change is quick, no belts required but they do > put a seal on the gas cap to make sure no one is adding anything to the > tank, somewhere on the track, outside of the approved fuel. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGfQOLFHgYE&feature=youtu.be > > Thanks to Hemmings for publishing this. > > > G. Michael Harmuth _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 15 11:50:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51C7B258661C for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 11:50:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from COL004-OMC1S3.hotmail.com (col004-omc1s3.hotmail.com [65.55.34.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E44A25864F3 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 11:41:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL130-W54 ([65.55.34.7]) by COL004-OMC1S3.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:41:39 -0700 From: Joe Henry To: Bill Tobin , Mike Munson , Todd Redmond Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:41:38 +0000 Importance: Normal References: <45907396-F3A6-4D64-9845-A6FD5A464859@aol.com>, , <40DF02FE-2F39-4C59-9C37-1BF1D27A12B7@yahoo.com>, FILETIME=[88A5B790:01D0A792] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels(Panasport) Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3567707397656578039== boundary="_1761268e-c501-40ec-9149-6fa42c904221_" --_1761268e-c501-40ec-9149-6fa42c904221_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Word of warning about TR6 stock wheels. Do not race on stock TR6 wheels. = We race a Chumpcar TR6 and can't tell you the wheels that failed on us befo= re we bought race wheels. =20 Joe Downer Charlotte=2C N.C. RiffRAF Racing TR6 > From: william.tobin31@verizon.net > To: fasttrs@yahoo.com=3B alfetta95@optonline.net > Date: Thu=2C 11 Jun 2015 14:23:05 -0400 > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels(Panasport) >=20 > Actually I did buy a set of Rotas a few years back. Reasonable price and= =20 > seem to work fine. > Bill > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Mike Munson" > To: "Todd Redmond" > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday=2C June 10=2C 2015 12:07 PM > Subject: Re: [Fot] Wheels(Panasport) >=20 >=20 > > Be forewarned=2C Panasport wheels design has changed! > > The ultra-lights are no longer available. They have redesigned them the= y=20 > > say for more clearance for bigger caliper. They moved the mass (spokes)= to=20 > > the outside of the wheel. They also no longer have steel inserts at the= =20 > > lug mating surface. So=2C they made them cheaper=2C heavier and more=20 > > expensive. I could have bought 2=2C 1/2 sets of Rotas for what I paid f= or=20 > > this set. > > > > Mike Munson > > #28 EP TR6 > > > >> On Jun 10=2C 2015=2C at 7:43 AM=2C Todd Redmond =20 > >> wrote: > >> > >> I'm interested in hearing the responses. > >> > >> I'm sure it's been said=2C but did you roll the fenders? > >> > >> Todd Redmond > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >>> On Jun 9=2C 2015=2C at 6:16 PM=2C fmccjr@aol.com wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi=2C a > >>> Is there anyone out there who is racing a Tr3 (with steel fenders) wh= o=20 > >>> might share information about what wheels you are using? I have Avon= =20 > >>> 175/60/15 tires on TR6 rims=2C and the front fender sits right on the= =20 > >>> tire. No racing for me=2C yet! (No issues in the rear=2C in fact=2C I= 'm using=20 > >>> 3/4" spacers). > >>> I am a VSCCA member=2C and I'm stumped! ...The original 4 inchers wo= n't=20 > >>> do. > >>> > >>> What width and offset do I need to clear the front fenders and brakes= =20 > >>> with these tires? > >>> > >>> Thanks=2C > >>> Rick McCurdy > >>> Newburgh=2C NY > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> _____________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage:=20 > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net > > > >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jhd11@hotma= il.com >=20 >=20 = --_1761268e-c501-40ec-9149-6fa42c904221_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Word of warning about TR6 stock = wheels. =3B Do not race on stock TR6 wheels. =3B We race a Chumpcar= TR6 and can't tell you the wheels that failed on us before we bought race = wheels. =3B

Joe Downer
Charlotte=2C N.C.
RiffRAF Racing T= R6

>=3B From: william.tobin31@verizon.net
>=3B To: fastt= rs@yahoo.com=3B alfetta95@optonline.net
>=3B Date: Thu=2C 11 Jun 2015 = 14:23:05 -0400
>=3B CC: fot@autox.team.net
>=3B Subject: Re: [Fot= ] Wheels(Panasport)
>=3B
>=3B Actually I did buy a set of Rotas = a few years back. Reasonable price and
>=3B seem to work fine.
>= =3B Bill
>=3B ----- Original Message -----
>=3B From: "Mike Muns= on" <=3Bfasttrs@yahoo.com>=3B
>=3B To: "Todd Redmond" <=3Balfett= a95@optonline.net>=3B
>=3B Cc: <=3Bfot@autox.team.net>=3B
>= =3B Sent: Wednesday=2C June 10=2C 2015 12:07 PM
>=3B Subject: Re: [Fot= ] Wheels(Panasport)
>=3B
>=3B
>=3B >=3B Be forewarned=2C= Panasport wheels design has changed!
>=3B >=3B The ultra-lights are= no longer available. They have redesigned them they
>=3B >=3B say = for more clearance for bigger caliper. They moved the mass (spokes) to
= >=3B >=3B the outside of the wheel. They also no longer have steel inse= rts at the
>=3B >=3B lug mating surface. So=2C they made them cheap= er=2C heavier and more
>=3B >=3B expensive. I could have bought 2= =2C 1/2 sets of Rotas for what I paid for
>=3B >=3B this set.
&g= t=3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B Mike Munson
>=3B >=3B #28 EP TR6
>= =3B >=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B On Jun 10=2C 2015=2C at 7:43 AM=2C Todd R= edmond <=3Balfetta95@optonline.net>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B wrote:>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B I'm interested in hearing the = responses.
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B I'm sure it's been= said=2C but did you roll the fenders?
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >= =3B>=3B Todd Redmond
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B Sent f= rom my iPad
>=3B >=3B>=3B
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B On Jun 9=2C= 2015=2C at 6:16 PM=2C fmccjr@aol.com wrote:
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B Hi=2C a
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B Is there a= nyone out there who is racing a Tr3 (with steel fenders) who
>=3B >= =3B>=3B>=3B might share information about what wheels you are using? I = have Avon
>=3B >=3B>=3B>=3B 175/60/15 tires on TR6 rims=2C and = the front fender sits right on the
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= --_1761268e-c501-40ec-9149-6fa42c904221_-- --===============3567707397656578039== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3567707397656578039==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 15 12:06:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3E82586E33 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:06:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f48.google.com (mail-la0-f48.google.com [209.85.215.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23B42586596 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 11:58:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lacny3 with SMTP id ny3so43132944lac.3 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:58:56 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=OG2M9g8GLwIZfSu4NmyYVJ2RlUy/Ym+roz//7pSXnJY=; b=e+lS7N83+oFw9lY7lbRlQSNBOdJhZrMhcSDt1kynkyrGUf4pwVaho/XdRX7UtTfnGE zAJN0usQpUZMoMWnU9wVE5LvpgP1ReCjP619m0H/QdOCml8rghcidPW74uwtlYNWA5lL 0LQih2NXiyTJhl2lLAiJ4tOJepv/+K+MACdf9XXlQwr5VFcTHjiibPWznHWw9kvd1y6k vPxRl2GOLwnSfjbHevmrOdthzTY1RYyvH+FA1Xezm4ZLFlEYtDHmGb26cVD6MIFani7J w2/q7X3ixCzZvyEr+6AlV4WnAcUF47tPhHJNlBiMD2lpxnTiJ5quara3AnyFxXXmAPPs OAgQ== 15 Jun 2015 10:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.189.98 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:58:15 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Kas Kastner Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 10:58:15 -0700 To: George Harmuth Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph TR4 (TRS) - 1961 Le Mans 24hrs Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4303791819498407082== --089e014942fe21d7780518923649 The seal is applies by the pit steward each time you fueled the car so that you cannot add any fuel anywhere else but in the pits. The did the same thing at Sebring in 1963 (and probably before) but then in 1965 that regulation was not applied nor afterwards. I made certain the tab holes for the wire seals were LARGE so there was not stuttering around getting the seal in place. *Never be beaten by equipment.* On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 9:23 AM, George Harmuth wrote: > This may have been posted here in the past but it's still interesting to > watch. A Standard- Triumph promo video of the 3 car Triumph TR4 effort in > the 1961 LeMans race. Driver change is quick, no belts required but they do > put a seal on the gas cap to make sure no one is adding anything to the > tank, somewhere on the track, outside of the approved fuel. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGfQOLFHgYE&feature=youtu.be > > Thanks to Hemmings for publishing this. > > > G. Michael Harmuth > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kaskastner@gmail.com > > > > --089e014942fe21d7780518923649 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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This may have been posted here in t= he past but it's still interesting to watch. A Standard- Triumph promo = video of the 3 car Triumph TR4 effort in the 1961 LeMans race. Driver chang= e is quick, no belts required but they do put a seal on the gas cap to make= sure no one is adding anything to the tank, somewhere on the track, outsid= e of the approved fuel.

https://www.yo= utube.com/watch?v=3DVGfQOLFHgYE&feature=3Dyoutu.be

Thanks to Hemmings for publishing this= .


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--089e014942fe21d7780518923649-- --===============4303791819498407082== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4303791819498407082==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 15 13:23:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560E42587963 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:23:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A27302587737 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:13:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by obbsn1 with SMTP id sn1so71009618obb.1 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:13:38 -0700 (PDT) h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=kNoHyREuiqr+uj5/4qxbiIcZlsF7s/vxNsuGCryhIPI=; b=wIJczsOWWkMUbyrTN1EyHkHqOaByxtU1yqrwl7mOlmRWFnXTXwfejlT0flOQm/S5kN dtVwB6n/pXpG0IweIkzkt7zRrOczpOm2uNPd2gdMJPndw+D6EU2iEFLbrTnexKiMahKX 5aN3cTz75ZEf6uRit69vqKhNTd6F5+WxWJcINrPxdRHtpLvAixMPZFkQHwoQuq7oU54w c0LIsS0sLdlU1YxncsFup4a1obK18gnDEwazBAgXnTT9Cj4Cukys8Mhazl09Pw8TTEgD eBWW9MOuFvXSI45bfC3VbzzOUKUtgAF8xSX4CrGOmz2UwejP4ZaMN0XUhcqB4W7J5FOz OIzA== Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.6] (client-69.170.103.254.tx.skybeam.com. [69.170.103.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r127sm9365062oia.22.2015.06.15.12.13.35 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:13:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Duncan Charlton Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:13:33 -0500 References: <831343847.29150194.1434383742906.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6413352928461981556== --Apple-Mail=_9783F483-9A7A-4D3A-892F-BE78B371B7B6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 Jim, How are your motor and trans mounts? If they allow the engine/gearbox = combo to shift out of line when under high torque, the u-joints could = move out of proper alignment, but then when power is reduced, things = would shift back into position. If you put the car on jackstands and = run it to this rpm in top gear (might not be a bad idea to remove the = drive wheels and tires if you=E2=80=99re sure they=E2=80=99re balanced) = there won=E2=80=99t be much load on the engine, so if the vibration is = due to deformation of the mounts, the vibration should not appear. Duncan > On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:55 AM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: >=20 > FoT, > I have a driveline vibration that doesn't start up until I get to = about 95- 100 MPH. I figured I would start with the driveshaft > before looking into the diff or OD/trans. I have an IRS car with = Richard Good CV axles and hubs so it's very un likely its that but > I will inspect them. I'm wondering if anybody has any advice on high = speed vibration diagnosis or detection. > What I'm wondering is even if it is the driveshaft how would I know = with it sitting on my bench. > Any help would, as always be greatly appreciated. > Jim g > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/duncan.charlton54@gmail.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_9783F483-9A7A-4D3A-892F-BE78B371B7B6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 Jim,

How = are your motor and trans mounts?  If they allow the engine/gearbox = combo to shift out of line when under high torque, the u-joints could = move out of proper alignment, but then when power is reduced, things = would shift back into position.  If you put the car on jackstands = and run it to this rpm in top gear (might not be a bad idea to remove = the drive wheels and tires if you=E2=80=99re sure they=E2=80=99re = balanced) there won=E2=80=99t be much load on the engine, so if the = vibration is due to deformation of the mounts, the vibration should not = appear.

Duncan

On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:55 AM, = toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote:

FoT,
I have a driveline vibration that doesn't start up until = I get to about 95- 100 MPH. I figured I would start with the = driveshaft
before looking into the diff or OD/trans. I have an IRS = car with Richard Good CV axles and hubs so it's very un likely its that = but
I will inspect them. I'm wondering if anybody has any = advice on high speed vibration diagnosis or detection.
What I'm wondering is even if it is the driveshaft how = would I know with it sitting on my bench.
Any help would, as always be greatly appreciated.
Jim = g
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= --Apple-Mail=_9783F483-9A7A-4D3A-892F-BE78B371B7B6-- --===============6413352928461981556== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6413352928461981556==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 15 13:38:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715972586467 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:38:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f173.google.com (mail-wi0-f173.google.com [209.85.212.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F57425848DF for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:32:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wiwd19 with SMTP id d19so84805073wiw.0 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:32:11 -0700 (PDT) d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:thread-index:content-language; bh=lflN2zDjnYEOnj/SbOMct0slj9Ml9q4oJizeOBoOIVg=; b=he8SFYQteAN8dYcoEj+vCraO90QnbWnAlPjWMq2QqMq+vvUZFSXhmSDQwGSAZd96Q4 1AECQ+xLDDgLHi7keFU4MNpEEei1f3JBTeBOeLciLW8Ks0GZM+evVIUpImP7J00et89a ZwrfFEJDQvIZov9HM/CBwMxvhkde25Xjs34Mii+OkTbi33T0be215jPTToWBN5qjHfq/ 1fvuHQT1voi2pcluUMuUF0snlxv7SJTPyYqGF1YWRWqhfmWxbyk2l3Lg1gguN4HYc3m+ I6si5DqU6HoGk1LdICucbCwMFCNf3fg1y9Lttg8H/1l6eKCZsoOtNVMji0x3QYcgxryZ Qt/w== Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.163.43.102]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fx7sm20354522wjb.10.2015.06.15.12.32.09 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:32:10 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: "'fot'" References: <2096510848.29137698.1434382863545.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <831343847.29150194.1434383742906.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 21:32:11 +0200 Thread-Index: AdCnofnzPvCKaPAySXOHauZpZyPP8w== Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============5726434693990674066== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00EB_01D0A7B2.BF09EB60" Content-Language: de This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00EB_01D0A7B2.BF09EB60 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Had this on the last race. Found all screws gone on the rear gearbox mount J =20 =20 Von: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von = toodamnfunky@comcast.net Gesendet: Montag, 15. Juni 2015 17:56 An: fot Betreff: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration =20 FoT, I have a driveline vibration that doesn't start up until I get to about = 95- 100 MPH. I figured I would start with the driveshaft before looking into the diff or OD/trans. I have an IRS car with Richard = Good CV axles and hubs so it's very un likely its that but I will inspect them. I'm wondering if anybody has any advice on high = speed vibration diagnosis or detection. What I'm wondering is even if it is the driveshaft how would I know with = it sitting on my bench.=20 Any help would, as always be greatly appreciated. Jim g ------=_NextPart_000_00EB_01D0A7B2.BF09EB60 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Had this on the last race.

Found all screws gone on the rear gearbox mount J

 

 

Von:<= /b> = Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von = toodamnfunky@comcast.net
Gesendet: Montag, 15. Juni 2015 = 17:56
An: fot
Betreff: [Fot] TR4 High speed = driveline vibration

 

FoT,

I have a = driveline vibration that doesn't start up until I get to about 95- 100 = MPH. I figured I would start with the = driveshaft

before looking = into the diff or OD/trans. I have an IRS car with Richard Good CV axles = and hubs so it's very un likely its that = but

I will inspect = them. I'm wondering if anybody has any advice on high speed vibration = diagnosis or detection.

What I'm = wondering is even if it is the driveshaft how would I know with it = sitting on my bench.

Any help would, = as always be greatly appreciated.

Jim = g

------=_NextPart_000_00EB_01D0A7B2.BF09EB60-- --===============5726434693990674066== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5726434693990674066==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 15 13:38:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2314325864AE for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:38:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.168]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A4325848DF for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:32:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.228]) by resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id gjXZ1q0094vw8ds01jYedr; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 19:32:38 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-208v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.218]) by resomta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id gjYe1q0054j68Km01jYejS; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 19:32:38 +0000 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 19:32:36 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: "Charlton, Duncan" References: <831343847.29150194.1434383742906.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <44831B3A-B957-4C8E-89F3-EF1605F65612@gmail.com> Thread-Topic: TR4 High speed driveline vibration Thread-Index: tlyENxLY5zLiDZQh8/LXpQv0/Ali8Q== s=q20140121; t=1434396758; bh=KIApAyXI4YgSC1cHEjJ6VbsKDf2ZKMt4Z68YeMa6oYs=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Pw9hgX16coJOI6bEoLcInlgKaFTEbAxKKB06ZrB/JxFoEeWAjywWCAvR9ySIXQPU6 kbYb99kIQEbvmv3F5yEF+hTEcw3TBk2GUuLVSLQ8Md+GIHpi27AppVdt09Ogq2/U26 Y2xVMoFOSYWlRYy52J3Kgtg5Kr7M4E2kN9jae4SEUSScFUVMMczyDqhqF7S/fD+ou5 HGnQN10QZtQ3lbFPljSj+NIDkvmQQ1clmAvfdb/wUPnzkg/jm+kS32JRmrJ7QAXnPZ ++zRSZ1LYCWEPWfPccY2H34pZyfiplWv3frQM0nEIT7x0cXfNILZWdv1v216PACCfz HsGH7S4Mm6b3w== Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2674162700314300389== boundary="----=_Part_29321697_2141821927.1434396756862" ------=_Part_29321697_2141821927.1434396756862 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Duncan but I never get the vibration under high loads like coming of= f a corner, it's only at top speed.=20 However the trans mount is worth looking in to. I'll have the driveshaft ou= t to a shop by next Monday to check the balance and install new u-joints=20 just in case. I hope the problem is that or the trans mount.=C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=20 jim=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duncan Charlton" =20 To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net=20 Cc: "fot" =20 Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 1:13:33 PM=20 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration=20 Jim,=20 How are your motor and trans mounts? =C2=A0If they allow the engine/gearbox= combo to shift out of line when under high torque, the u-joints could move= out of proper alignment, but then when power is reduced, things would shif= t back into position. =C2=A0If you put the car on jackstands and run it to = this rpm in top gear (might not be a bad idea to remove the drive wheels an= d tires if you=E2=80=99re sure they=E2=80=99re balanced) there won=E2=80=99= t be much load on the engine, so if the vibration is due to deformation of = the mounts, the vibration should not appear.=20 Duncan=20 On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:55 AM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote:=20 FoT,=20 I have a driveline vibration that doesn't start up until I get to about 95-= 100 MPH. I figured I would start with the driveshaft=20 before looking into the diff or OD/trans. I have an IRS car with Richard Go= od CV axles and hubs so it's very un likely its that but=20 I will inspect them. I'm wondering if anybody has any advice on high speed = vibration diagnosis or detection.=20 What I'm wondering is even if it is the driveshaft how would I know with it= sitting on my bench.=20 Any help would, as always be greatly appreciated.=20 Jim g=20 _______________________________________________=20 fot@autox.team.net=20 http://www.fot-racing.com=20 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive=20 on54@gmail.com=20 ------=_Part_29321697_2141821927.1434396756862 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Duncan but I never get the vibration under high loads like = coming off a corner, it's only at top speed.
However the trans mount is worth looking in to. I'll have the drivesha= ft out to a shop by next Monday to check the balance and install new u-join= ts
just in case. I hope the problem is that or the trans mount. 
 
jim

<= B>From: "Duncan Charlton" <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com>
To:= toodamnfunky@comcast.net
Cc: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>= ;
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 1:13:33 PM
Subject: Re: [= Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration

Jim,

How are your motor and trans mounts?  If they allow the engine/ge= arbox combo to shift out of line when under high torque, the u-joints could= move out of proper alignment, but then when power is reduced, things would= shift back into position.  If you put the car on jackstands and run i= t to this rpm in top gear (might not be a bad idea to remove the drive whee= ls and tires if you=E2=80=99re sure they=E2=80=99re balanced) there won=E2= =80=99t be much load on the engine, so if the vibration is due to deformati= on of the mounts, the vibration should not appear.

Duncan


On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:55 AM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote:

FoT,
I have a driveline vibration that doesn't start up until I get to abou= t 95- 100 MPH. I figured I would start with the driveshaft
before looking into the diff or OD/trans. I have an IRS car with Richa= rd Good CV axles and hubs so it's very un likely its that but
I will inspect them. I'm wondering if anybody has any advice on high s= peed vibration diagnosis or detection.
What I'm wondering is even if it is the driveshaft how would I know wi= th it sitting on my bench.
Any help would, as always be greatly appreciated.
Jim g
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Donate: http://www.team.net/d= onate.html
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------=_Part_29321697_2141821927.1434396756862-- --===============2674162700314300389== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2674162700314300389==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 15 13:53:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF90225875F6 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:53:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8EB2585079 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:44:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aae01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aae01.mx.aol.com [172.27.1.99]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C2C2E700000A0; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:44:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-lga10d.mail.aol.com (core-lga10.mail.aol.com [10.76.11.10]) by mtaomg-aae01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 98D9638000088; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:44:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 98.77.32.177 by webprd-m19.mail.aol.com (10.74.15.139) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:44:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:44:12 -0400 From: fubog1 To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net, duncan.charlton54@gmail.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1434397452; bh=zn1SD7jYdtMA2IombepFs8ObKEaEWgArk/KSuYZfaM8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xNArsG9Elf7QJl7i0/SjyrgCDlZDREbsapudBgE1MQZUMrIkLJ7ybuDf4Lb2ecv27 on7cEjya3QQt7ceeg8qH+uqSddj3px5cC5nCCILO3Xcb1z3BwbDmo9mruqWskCW1KH dK+Q2LTVokdhPEV1PKS2yQpkmWzUY5HggIMgld7M= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b0163557f2b0c1dcd Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8216862837790303303== boundary="----=_Part_51310_787257306.1434397452455" ------=_Part_51310_787257306.1434397452455 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable and also check the phasing of the U-joints, ie crosses lined-up... Glen =20 =20 =20 -----Original Message----- From: toodamnfunky To: Charlton, Duncan Cc: fot Sent: Mon, Jun 15, 2015 3:38 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration =20 =20 Thanks Duncan but I never get the vibration under high loads like coming of= f a corner, it's only at top speed. =20 =20 =20 However the trans mount is worth looking in to. I'll have the driveshaft ou= t to a shop by next Monday to check the balance and install new u-joints = =20 =20 just in case. I hope the problem is that or the trans mount. =20 =20 =20 =20 jim =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 From: "Duncan Charlton" =20 To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net =20 Cc: "fot" =20 Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 1:13:33 PM =20 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration =20 =20 =20 =20 Jim, =20 =20 =20 =20 How are your motor and trans mounts? If they allow the engine/gearbox comb= o to shift out of line when under high torque, the u-joints could move out = of proper alignment, but then when power is reduced, things would shift bac= k into position. If you put the car on jackstands and run it to this rpm i= n top gear (might not be a bad idea to remove the drive wheels and tires if= you=E2=80=99re sure they=E2=80=99re balanced) there won=E2=80=99t be much = load on the engine, so if the vibration is due to deformation of the mounts= , the vibration should not appear. =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 Duncan =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:55 AM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: = =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 FoT, =20 =20 =20 I have a driveline vibration that doesn't start up until I get to about 95-= 100 MPH. I figured I would start with the driveshaft =20 =20 before looking into the diff or OD/trans. I have an IRS car with Richard Go= od CV axles and hubs so it's very un likely its that but =20 =20 I will inspect them. I'm wondering if anybody has any advice on high speed = vibration diagnosis or detection. =20 =20 What I'm wondering is even if it is the driveshaft how would I know with it= sitting on my bench. =20 =20 Any help would, as always be greatly appreciated. =20 =20 Jim g =20 =20 =20 _______________________________________________ =20 fot@autox.team.net =20 =20 http://www.fot-racing.com =20 =20 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive =20 on54@gmail.com =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1@aol.com =20 ------=_Part_51310_787257306.1434397452455 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable and also check the phasing of the U-joints, ie crosses lined-u= p...
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-----= Original Message-----
From: toodamnfunky <toodamnfunky@comcast.net>
To: Charlton, Duncan <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com>
Cc: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Jun 15, 2015 3:38 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration

=20
=20
Thanks Duncan but I never get the vibration under high loads like coming of= f a corner, it's only at top speed.
=20 =20
However the trans mount is worth looking in to. I'll have the driveshaft ou= t to a shop by next Monday to check the balance and install new u-joints
=20 =20
just in case. I hope the problem is that or the trans mount. 
=20 =20
 
=20 =20
jim
=20 =20

=20
=20 =20
From: "Duncan Charlton" <duncan.charlto= n54@gmail.com>
To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net
Cc: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 1:13:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration
=20 =20

Jim,=20 =20

=20 =20
How are your motor and trans mounts?  If they allow the engine/gearbox= combo to shift out of line when under high torque, the u-joints could move= out of proper alignment, but then when power is reduced, things would shif= t back into position.  If you put the car on jackstands and run it to = this rpm in top gear (might not be a bad idea to remove the drive wheels an= d tires if you=E2=80=99re sure they=E2=80=99re balanced) there won=E2=80=99= t be much load on the engine, so if the vibration is due to deformation of = the mounts, the vibration should not appear.
=20 =20
=20 =20
=20 =20

=20 =20
=20 =20
Duncan
=20 =20

=20 =20

=20 =20
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On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:55 AM,=20 toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote:

=20 =20
=20 =20
=20 =20
=20 =20
FoT,
=20 =20
I have a driveline vibration that doesn't start up until I get to about 95-= 100 MPH. I figured I would start with the driveshaft
=20 =20
before looking into the diff or OD/trans. I have an IRS car with Richard Go= od CV axles and hubs so it's very un likely its that but
=20 =20
I will inspect them. I'm wondering if anybody has any advice on high speed = vibration diagnosis or detection.
=20 =20
What I'm wondering is even if it is the driveshaft how would I know with it= sitting on my bench.=20
=20 =20
Any help would, as always be greatly appreciated.
=20 =20
Jim g
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------=_Part_51310_787257306.1434397452455-- --===============8216862837790303303== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8216862837790303303==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 15 14:53:44 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023FC25861F7 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:53:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m08.mx.aol.com (omr-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.222.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298B6258470D for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 14:53:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aac01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aac01.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.35]) by omr-m08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 58F79704DB288; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:53:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-aaa02e.mail.aol.com (core-aaa02.mail.aol.com [172.26.125.2]) by mtaomg-aac01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 2990738000086; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:53:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 173.188.57.98 by webprd-a28.mail.aol.com (10.72.57.51) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:53:12 -0400 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:53:12 -0400 From: Bruce Lapierre To: rkramer3@austin.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net, harmug@us.ibm.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1434401593; bh=OJWM0WqAsKN14vQF5sEcDX1GveY0aPAYawzXjai164Y=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=da3ajTKMsHSUws+Uttu4aPB3M+fiho/m/DvJVvM1pMwIQIQmK9cZwsGRGr18tKU+H 4oBeuzRgSnhw0T6Bz/WCTnu/bMdGq4OMsLwVpny08Gs/L2SFxQMfT8rLqdyifV4Hkv ZS6CelKZJ5i4mL8PiS+JQ5oFvnSbzVfDw1ake4MA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b0223557f3b3845e8 Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph TR4 (TRS) - 1961 Le Mans 24hrs Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2167175039880023108== boundary="----=_Part_71166_1345353460.1434401592001" ------=_Part_71166_1345353460.1434401592001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Missed it in the first pass. Nice work if you can get it. -----Original Message----- From: rkramer3 To: fot ; George Harmuth Sent: Mon, Jun 15, 2015 4:29 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph TR4 (TRS) - 1961 Le Mans 24hrs There is a surprising little tidbit of hand work at about 2:35 in...... Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com ---- George Harmuth wrote: > > > This may have been posted here in the past but it's still interesting to > watch. A Standard- Triumph promo video of the 3 car Triumph TR4 effort in > the 1961 LeMans race. Driver change is quick, no belts required but they do > put a seal on the gas cap to make sure no one is adding anything to the > tank, somewhere on the track, outside of the approved fuel. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGfQOLFHgYE&feature=youtu.be > > Thanks to Hemmings for publishing this. > > > G. Michael Harmuth _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fasttr4@aol.com ------=_Part_71166_1345353460.1434401592001 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Missed it in the first pass.  Nice work if you can get it. 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: rkramer3 <rkramer3@austin.rr.com>
To: fot <fot@autox.team.net>; George Harmuth <harmug@us.ibm.com>
Sent: Mon, Jun 15, 2015 4:29 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph TR4 (TRS) - 1961 Le Mans 24hrs

There is a surprising little tidbit of hand work at about 2:35 in......

Bob
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rkramer3@austin.rr.com

---- George Harmuth <harmug@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> This may have been posted here in the past but it's still
interesting to
> watch. A Standard- Triumph promo video of the 3 car Triumph
TR4 effort in
> the 1961 LeMans race. Driver change is quick, no belts required
but they do
> put a seal on the gas cap to make sure no one is adding anything
to the
> tank, somewhere on the track, outside of the approved fuel.
> 
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGfQOLFHgYE&feature=youtu.be
> 
> Thanks to
Hemmings for publishing this.
> 
> 
> G. Michael
Harmuth

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I = don=E2=80=99t mean high loads as in high side loads generated by = cornering, which, as you imply, could cock the motor and gearbox a bit = to one side.   What I mean is that in top gear, as you approach the = point where the amount of drag equals the amount of power available, the = driveline is absorbing maximum power and the mounts mounts are providing = maximum resistance to the engine=E2=80=99s torque reaction.  The = motor/gearbox might cock a bit even in a straight line, I = think.

Duncan

On Jun 15, 2015, at 2:32 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote:

Thanks Duncan but I never get the vibration under high loads = like coming off a corner, it's only at top speed.
However the trans mount is worth looking in to. I'll = have the driveshaft out to a shop by next Monday to check the balance = and install new u-joints
just in case. I hope the problem is that or the trans = mount. 
 
jim

From: "Duncan Charlton" <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com>
To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net
Cc: = "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: = Monday, June 15, 2015 1:13:33 PM
Subject: = Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration

Jim,

How are your motor and trans mounts?  If they allow = the engine/gearbox combo to shift out of line when under high torque, = the u-joints could move out of proper alignment, but then when power is = reduced, things would shift back into position.  If you put the car = on jackstands and run it to this rpm in top gear (might not be a bad = idea to remove the drive wheels and tires if you=E2=80=99re sure = they=E2=80=99re balanced) there won=E2=80=99t be much load on the = engine, so if the vibration is due to deformation of the mounts, the = vibration should not appear.

Duncan


On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:55 AM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote:

FoT,
I have a driveline vibration that doesn't start up until = I get to about 95- 100 MPH. I figured I would start with the = driveshaft
before looking into the diff or OD/trans. I have an IRS = car with Richard Good CV axles and hubs so it's very un likely its that = but
I will inspect them. I'm wondering if anybody has any = advice on high speed vibration diagnosis or detection.
What I'm wondering is even if it is the driveshaft how = would I know with it sitting on my bench.
Any help would, as always be greatly appreciated.
Jim = g
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= --Apple-Mail=_3EDA905C-6DE0-4888-8144-70CA69D41E44-- --===============8259847341872314172== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8259847341872314172==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 15 16:25:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70ADB258767C for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:25:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0092E2585138 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 16:20:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.236]) by resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id gmLT1q00456HXL001mLTh5; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:20:27 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-208v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.218]) by resomta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id gmLT1q0094j68Km01mLTUm; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:20:27 +0000 Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:20:27 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: "Charlton, Duncan" References: <831343847.29150194.1434383742906.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <44831B3A-B957-4C8E-89F3-EF1605F65612@gmail.com> <805491843.29321699.1434396756862.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <18804D3A-D01C-4B76-BAA9-E4CD2AE2CDC5@gmail.com> Thread-Topic: TR4 High speed driveline vibration Thread-Index: ed+texOTgFvDakDAQF6KVep9SsZ1Zw== s=q20140121; t=1434406827; bh=zpe9GSgj6MpcvuQkONY2M8SrPEkfJLoGm37uU0PcT60=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=o+GqcA+VP+FHnjRh2RympM+6tGJV/JMxzJxoz/cuwgk+bX4rrAJLqsXpwWvscSSa3 Ux8k94qYYOc3SewYphr5URD3kOUrlRB5nMxNraGq833OTaHoWLWSsSzDKTB14ZTAbY O6+H5Okb9T0x3Cn7SlBrvpLtEeMiDseGR+Nw8RkNxthz8v1d1aZi8JFand5lo8bv0f x3bOtJP2GI5PP2UR6M3fKNUWLMD9yz6avr1PlH1cwuf22Z+6YdHxBW6zfnhQIYEwGB K/xqaq1XE1ETOA7J3RtZlgXYP7Lth9lC8J5DZvXGG0XxDIVUfzxIXBrLNArEMIFpTB dvI1AmOT6IGNw== Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0122466160054524620== boundary="----=_Part_29427496_1350815032.1434406827182" ------=_Part_29427496_1350815032.1434406827182 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK,=20 I got it. The engine mounts are good but I may have a little movement in th= e trans mount.=20 I'm glad you brought it up and I'll check it.=20 jim=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duncan Charlton" =20 To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net=20 Cc: "fot" =20 Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 4:13:44 PM=20 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration=20 Hi Jim,=20 I don=E2=80=99t mean high loads as in high side loads generated by cornerin= g, which, as you imply, could cock the motor and gearbox a bit to one side.= =C2=A0 What I mean is that in top gear, as you approach the point where th= e amount of drag equals the amount of power available, the driveline is abs= orbing maximum power and the mounts mounts are providing maximum resistance= to the engine=E2=80=99s torque reaction. =C2=A0The motor/gearbox might coc= k a bit even in a straight line, I think.=20 Duncan=20 On Jun 15, 2015, at 2:32 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote:=20 Thanks Duncan but I never get the vibration under high loads like coming of= f a corner, it's only at top speed.=20 However the trans mount is worth looking in to. I'll have the driveshaft ou= t to a shop by next Monday to check the balance and install new u-joints=20 just in case. I hope the problem is that or the trans mount.=C2=A0=20 =C2=A0=20 jim=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duncan Charlton" < duncan.charlton54@gmail.com >=20 To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net=20 Cc: "fot" =20 Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 1:13:33 PM=20 Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration=20 Jim,=20 How are your motor and trans mounts? =C2=A0If they allow the engine/gearbox= combo to shift out of line when under high torque, the u-joints could move= out of proper alignment, but then when power is reduced, things would shif= t back into position. =C2=A0If you put the car on jackstands and run it to = this rpm in top gear (might not be a bad idea to remove the drive wheels an= d tires if you=E2=80=99re sure they=E2=80=99re balanced) there won=E2=80=99= t be much load on the engine, so if the vibration is due to deformation of = the mounts, the vibration should not appear.=20 Duncan=20
On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:55 AM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote:=20 FoT,=20 I have a driveline vibration that doesn't start up until I get to about 95-= 100 MPH. I figured I would start with the driveshaft=20 before looking into the diff or OD/trans. I have an IRS car with Richard Go= od CV axles and hubs so it's very un likely its that but=20 I will inspect them. I'm wondering if anybody has any advice on high speed = vibration diagnosis or detection.=20 What I'm wondering is even if it is the driveshaft how would I know with it= sitting on my bench.=20 Any help would, as always be greatly appreciated.=20 Jim g=20 _______________________________________________=20 fot@autox.team.net=20 http://www.fot-racing.com=20 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive=20 on54@gmail.com=20
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OK,
I got it. The engine mounts are good but I may have a little movement = in the trans mount.
I'm glad you brought it up and I'll check it.
jim

<= B>From: "Duncan Charlton" <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com>
To:= toodamnfunky@comcast.net
Cc: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>= ;
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 4:13:44 PM
Subject: Re: [= Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration

Hi Jim,

I don=E2=80=99t mean high loads as in high side loads generated by cor= nering, which, as you imply, could cock the motor and gearbox a bit to one = side.   What I mean is that in top gear, as you approach the point whe= re the amount of drag equals the amount of power available, the driveline i= s absorbing maximum power and the mounts mounts are providing maximum resis= tance to the engine=E2=80=99s torque reaction.  The motor/gearbox migh= t cock a bit even in a straight line, I think.

Duncan

On Jun 15, 2015, at 2:32 PM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote:

Thanks Duncan but I never get the vibration under high loads like comi= ng off a corner, it's only at top speed.
However the trans mount is worth looking in to. I'll have the drivesha= ft out to a shop by next Monday to check the balance and install new u-join= ts
just in case. I hope the problem is that or the trans mount. 
 
jim

From: "Duncan Charlton" <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com>
To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net<= BR>Cc: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, June= 15, 2015 1:13:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline = vibration

Jim,=20

How are your motor and trans mounts?  If they allow the engine/ge= arbox combo to shift out of line when under high torque, the u-joints could= move out of proper alignment, but then when power is reduced, things would= shift back into position.  If you put the car on jackstands and run i= t to this rpm in top gear (might not be a bad idea to remove the drive whee= ls and tires if you=E2=80=99re sure they=E2=80=99re balanced) there won=E2= =80=99t be much load on the engine, so if the vibration is due to deformati= on of the mounts, the vibration should not appear.

Duncan


On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:55 AM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote:

FoT,
I have a driveline vibration that doesn't start up until I get to abou= t 95- 100 MPH. I figured I would start with the driveshaft
before looking into the diff or OD/trans. I have an IRS car with Richa= rd Good CV axles and hubs so it's very un likely its that but
I will inspect them. I'm wondering if anybody has any advice on high s= peed vibration diagnosis or detection.
What I'm wondering is even if it is the driveshaft how would I know wi= th it sitting on my bench.
Any help would, as always be greatly appreciated.
Jim g
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He's Italian...



On Jun 15, 2015, at 3:53 PM, Bruce Lapierre <fasttr4@aol.com> wrote:

Missed it in the first pass.  Nice work if you can get it. 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: rkramer3 <rkramer3@austin.rr.com>
To: fot <fot@autox.team.net>; George Harmuth <harmug@us.ibm.com>
Sent: Mon, Jun 15, 2015 4:29 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph TR4 (TRS) - 1961 Le Mans 24hrs

There is a surprising little tidbit of hand work at about 2:35 in......

Bob
Kramer
rkramer3@austin.rr.com

---- George Harmuth <harmug@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> This may have been posted here in the past but it's still
interesting to
> watch. A Standard- Triumph promo video of the 3 car Triumph
TR4 effort in
> the 1961 LeMans race. Driver change is quick, no belts required
but they do
> put a seal on the gas cap to make sure no one is adding anything
to the
> tank, somewhere on the track, outside of the approved fuel.
> 
>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGfQOLFHgYE&feature=youtu.be
> 
> Thanks to
Hemmings for publishing this.
> 
> 
> G. Michael
Harmuth

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--Apple-Mail-91E8DB8B-E695-477E-BB5A-54CC05A6873D-- --===============1419179000973355359== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1419179000973355359==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 15 18:28:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65886258644D for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 18:28:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SNT004-OMC2S42.hotmail.com (snt004-omc2s42.hotmail.com [65.54.61.93]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B212580782 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 18:28:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT407-EAS69 ([65.55.90.73]) by SNT004-OMC2S42.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Mon, 15 Jun 2015 17:28:23 -0700 From: Tony and Annie Garmey Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 19:28:21 -0500 References: <2096510848.29137698.1434382863545.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <831343847.29150194.1434383742906.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <00ea01d0a7a1$fb811b60$f2835220$@com> To: MadMarx FILETIME=[5AE87D90:01D0A7CB] Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3568316571895919663== boundary="_413f4b67-86a2-4296-9fdf-325c75438912_" --_413f4b67-86a2-4296-9fdf-325c75438912_ boundary="Apple-Mail-58C6141E-F8E1-4DEF-9E30-8F7574654FC3" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-58C6141E-F8E1-4DEF-9E30-8F7574654FC3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There a great clip on you tube about driveline alignment , phasing and vibra= tions.=20 Inland empire drive lines in LA are very very good .=20 > On Jun 15, 2015, at 2:38 PM, MadMarx wrote: >=20 > Had this on the last race. > Found all screws gone on the rear gearbox mount J > =20 > =20 > Von: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von toodamnfunky@c= omcast.net > Gesendet: Montag, 15. 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Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3568316571895919663==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 15 20:25:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30AC72584AE7 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:25:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849C72584A5E for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:20:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [65.25.182.78] ([65.25.182.78:33609] helo=[192.168.100.99]) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id F9/C5-04993-5F78F755; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 02:20:37 +0000 From: Allen Washatko To: FOT Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 21:20:37 -0500 Subject: [Fot] Overdrive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FoT, I'm selling my race prepared "J" - type overdrive. If anyone is interested, please contact me off-line. Thanks, Allen Allen Washatko #6 Triumph TR6 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 15 20:26:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5241E25862DA for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:26:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C4325862DA for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:26:25 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge02 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [107.92.58.96] ([107.92.58.96:31675] helo=[10.14.81.221]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id FE/66-11471-8598F755; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 02:26:33 +0000 References: From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 21:26:28 -0500 To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: [Fot] Fwd: Triumph TR4 (TRS) - 1961 Le Mans 24hrs Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7855967098993999725== boundary=Apple-Mail-5A4A4E28-6FD3-45F4-8DC8-F266D20EFB68 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-5A4A4E28-6FD3-45F4-8DC8-F266D20EFB68 charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've got a set of fenders with my name on them that need to get from mid Ohi= o to TX. Anyone have travel Plans that might intersect one and near to one of those?=20 Thanks.=20 Greg Begin forwarded message: > From: Ted Schumacher > Date: June 15, 2015 at 8:33:05 PM CDT > To: Greg And Alison Blake > Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph TR4 (TRS) - 1961 Le Mans 24hrs >=20 > Hi Greg. Anybody coming to Mid-Ohio that could pick up fenders? Ted >=20 > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID >=20 >=20 >>=20 --Apple-Mail-5A4A4E28-6FD3-45F4-8DC8-F266D20EFB68 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've got a set of fenders with my name= on them that need to get from mid Ohio to TX. Anyone have travel
= Plans that might intersect one and near to one of those? 
Thanks. 

Greg



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<= b>From: Ted Schumacher <tedtsi= mx@bright.net>
Date: June 15, 2015 at 8:33:05 PM CDT
= To: Greg And Alison Blake <a= blake2@austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Triumph TR4 (TR= S) - 1961 Le Mans 24hrs

Hi Greg. Anybody coming to Mid-Ohio that could pick up fe= nders? Ted

Sent fr= om my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID



= --Apple-Mail-5A4A4E28-6FD3-45F4-8DC8-F266D20EFB68-- --===============7855967098993999725== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============7855967098993999725==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 15 20:40:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A830E25877FD for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:40:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298F32584D19 for ; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 20:33:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mbc01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mbc01.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.143]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 67CE070000092; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:33:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-lrb02e.mail.aol.com (core-lrb02.mail.aol.com [10.76.58.12]) by mtaomg-mbc01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 24CE738000088; Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:33:53 -0400 (EDT) References: <44831B3A-B957-4C8E-89F3-EF1605F65612@gmail.com> To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net Received: from 50.184.7.34 by webmail-va005.sysops.aol.com (149.174.108.27) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:33:52 -0400 From: malaboge@aol.com Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 22:33:53 -0400 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1434422033; bh=wlBkCoDPhRKha17e1a8/dMqkJ0RzvD4eeBXZx0uM1lw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IlL5AcaMqmWTIkrJzQ5bYOJeb3l6+fX61aRldyQNZH85z7mHjDFIVrF18n6SXu6Vm kGzSZl27uaJoNJIhFWd8RMTYozJBPoI5LuZIxPNlKHNMxIeDUpvOFVV3TXA935BXSO ryu5gzRj+7m48zGgVOZly6OQnte2MBmw4yr9jB/E= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1add8f557f8b113461 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============6322820761646588394== boundary="--------MB_8D275F404E545A3_808_154DA1_webmail-va005.sysops.aol.com" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8D275F404E545A3_808_154DA1_webmail-va005.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20FOTer's,=0D=0AI=20will=20assume=20this=20car=20has=20the=20stock=20style=20tr= ans=20mount,=20not=20the=20later=20TR6=20style=20setup...yeah=20I=20know=20about= =20assuming=20anything,=20but=20here=20I=20go.=0D=0AIn=20order=20to=20keep=20the= =20rear=20of=20the=20trans=20where=20it=20belongs=20and=20yet=20allow=20some=20m= ovement=20and=20inslulation=20this=20is=20the=20mod=20I=20have=20utilized.=0D=0A= Remove=20the=202=20trans=20to=20mount=20bolts=20and=20drill=20straight=20down=20= thru=20those=20mounting=20holes=20thru=20the=20small=20trans=20crossmember.=20En= large=20those=20new=20holes=20in=20that=20crossmember=20to=20about=205/8"=20or=20= so.=20Purchase=202=20new=20bolts=20that=20are=20treaded=20all=20the=20way=20and=20= are=20long=20enough=20to=20go=20thru=20the=20trans,=20the=20trans=20mount=20and=20= the=20crossmember.=20Drop=20the=20bolt=20thru=20the=20trans=20and=20trans=20moun= t=20and=20start=20a=20nut=20up=20the=20bolt=20to=20tighten=20the=20trans=20to=20= the=20mount.=20The=20bolt=20will=20now=20extend=20thru=20the=20trans,=20the=20mo= unt=20(tighten=20the=20nut=20securely=20to=20hold=20them=20together)=20and=20the= =20crossmember.=20Use=20a=20large=20washer=20and=20a=20nyloc=20on=20the=20bolt=20= where=20it=20now=20extends=20thru=20the=20crossmember.=20Tighten=20this=20nylock= =20only=20until=20it=20"just"=20contacts=20the=20crossmember.=20Because=20the=20= bolt=20is=20smaller=20than=20the=20hole=20you=20just=20drilled=20it=20will=20all= ow=20the=20trans=20to=20move=20a=20small=20distance=20in=20any=20direction,=20bu= t=20will=20stop=20any=20excessive=20movement,=20including=20saving=20the=20radia= tor=20in=20event=20of=20a=20serious=20impact!=0D=0A=0D=0AClear=20as=20mud?=0D=0A= =0D=0AA=20little=20out=20of=20balance=20in=20Nor=20Cal=0D=0ANick=0D=0A=0D=0A=20=0D= =0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A-----Original=20Message-----=0D=0AFrom:=20Duncan=20Charlton= =20<duncan.charlton54@gmail.com>=0D=0ATo:=20toodamnfunky=20<toodamnfunk= y@comcast.net>=0D=0ACc:=20fot=20<fot@autox.team.net>=0D=0ASent:=20Mon,=20= Jun=2015,=202015=2012:23=20pm=0D=0ASubject:=20Re:=20[Fot]=20TR4=20High=20speed=20= driveline=20vibration=0D=0A=0D=0A=20=20Jim,=0D=0AHow=20are=20your=20motor=20and=20= trans=20mounts?=20=C2=A0If=20they=20allow=20the=20engine/gearbox=20combo=20to=20= shift=20out=20of=20line=20when=20under=20high=20torque,=20the=20u-joints=20could= =20move=20out=20of=20proper=20alignment,=20but=20then=20when=20power=20is=20redu= ced,=20things=20would=20shift=20back=20into=20position.=20=C2=A0If=20you=20put=20= the=20car=20on=20jackstands=20and=20run=20it=20to=20this=20rpm=20in=20top=20gear= =20(might=20not=20be=20a=20bad=20idea=20to=20remove=20the=20drive=20wheels=20and= =20tires=20if=20you=E2=80=99re=20sure=20they=E2=80=99re=20balanced)=20there=20wo= n=E2=80=99t=20be=20much=20load=20on=20the=20engine,=20so=20if=20the=20vibration=20= is=20due=20to=20deformation=20of=20the=20mounts,=20the=20vibration=20should=20no= t=20appear.=0D=0ADuncan=0D=0A=0D=0AOn=20Jun=2015,=202015,=20at=2010:55=20AM,=20t= oodamnfunky@comcast.net=20wrote:=0D=0AFoT,=0D=0A=20I=20have=20a=20driveline=20vi= bration=20that=20doesn't=20start=20up=20until=20I=20get=20to=20about=2095-=20100= =20MPH.=20I=20figured=20I=20would=20start=20with=20the=20driveshaft=0D=0A=20befo= re=20looking=20into=20the=20diff=20or=20OD/trans.=20I=20have=20an=20IRS=20car=20= with=20Richard=20Good=20CV=20axles=20and=20hubs=20so=20it's=20very=20un=20likely= =20its=20that=20but=0D=0A=20I=20will=20inspect=20them.=20I'm=20wondering=20if=20= anybody=20has=20any=20advice=20on=20high=20speed=20vibration=20diagnosis=20or=20= detection.=0D=0A=20What=20I'm=20wondering=20is=20even=20if=20it=20is=20the=20dri= veshaft=20how=20would=20I=20know=20with=20it=20sitting=20on=20my=20bench.=20=0D=0A= =20Any=20help=20would,=20as=20always=20be=20greatly=20appreciated.=0D=0A=20Jim=20= g=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A_______________________________________________=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D= =0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20=20=20=20__________________________= _____________________=20fot@autox.team.net=20=20http://www.fot-racing.com=20=20D= onate:=20http://www.team.net/donate.html=20Archive:=20http://www.team.net/archiv= e=20Forums:=20http://www.team.net/forums=20Unsubscribe/Manage:=20http://autox.te= am.net/mailman/options/fot/malaboge@aol.com=20=20=20=20=0D=0A=20=20=0A=0A ----------MB_8D275F404E545A3_808_154DA1_webmail-va005.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =0D=0A=20FOTer's,
=0D=0AI=20will=20assume=20this=20car=20has=20the=20= stock=20style=20trans=20mount,=20not=20the=20later=20TR6=20style=20setup...yeah=20= I=20know=20about=20assuming=20anything,=20but=20here=20I=20go.
=0D=0AIn=20ord= er=20to=20keep=20the=20rear=20of=20the=20trans=20where=20it=20belongs=20and=20ye= t=20allow=20some=20movement=20and=20inslulation=20this=20is=20the=20mod=20I=20ha= ve=20utilized.
=0D=0ARemove=20the=202=20trans=20to=20mount=20bolts=20and=20dr= ill=20straight=20down=20thru=20those=20mounting=20holes=20thru=20the=20small=20t= rans=20crossmember.=20Enlarge=20those=20new=20holes=20in=20that=20crossmember=20= to=20about=205/8"=20or=20so.=20Purchase=202=20new=20bolts=20that=20are=20treaded= =20all=20the=20way=20and=20are=20long=20enough=20to=20go=20thru=20the=20trans,=20= the=20trans=20mount=20and=20the=20crossmember.=20Drop=20the=20bolt=20thru=20the=20= trans=20and=20trans=20mount=20and=20start=20a=20nut=20up=20the=20bolt=20to=20tig= hten=20the=20trans=20to=20the=20mount.=20The=20bolt=20will=20now=20extend=20thru= =20the=20trans,=20the=20mount=20(tighten=20the=20nut=20securely=20to=20hold=20th= em=20together)=20and=20the=20crossmember.=20Use=20a=20large=20washer=20and=20a=20= nyloc=20on=20the=20bolt=20where=20it=20now=20extends=20thru=20the=20crossmember.= =20Tighten=20this=20nylock=20only=20until=20it=20"just"=20contacts=20the=20cross= member.=20Because=20the=20bolt=20is=20smaller=20than=20the=20hole=20you=20just=20= drilled=20it=20will=20allow=20the=20trans=20to=20move=20a=20small=20distance=20i= n=20any=20direction,=20but=20will=20stop=20any=20excessive=20movement,=20includi= ng=20saving=20the=20radiator=20in=20event=20of=20a=20serious=20impact!
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=0D=0A-----Original=20Message-----
=0D=0AFro= m:=20Duncan=20Charlton=20<duncan.charlton54@gmail.com>
=0D=0ATo:=20tood= amnfunky=20<toodamnfunky@comcast.net>
=0D=0ACc:=20fot=20<fot@autox.t= eam.net>
=0D=0ASent:=20Mon,=20Jun=2015,=202015=2012:23=20pm
=0D=0ASubje= ct:=20Re:=20[Fot]=20TR4=20High=20speed=20driveline=20vibration
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=0D=0A= =20=0D=0A=20=0D=0A= Jim,=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0AHow=20are=20your=20motor=20and=20trans=20mounts?=20 If=20they=20= allow=20the=20engine/gearbox=20combo=20to=20shift=20out=20of=20line=20when=20und= er=20high=20torque,=20the=20u-joints=20could=20move=20out=20of=20proper=20alignm= ent,=20but=20then=20when=20power=20is=20reduced,=20things=20would=20shift=20back= =20into=20position.=20 If=20you=20put=20the=20car=20on=20jackstands=20and=20= run=20it=20to=20this=20rpm=20in=20top=20gear=20(might=20not=20be=20a=20bad=20ide= a=20to=20remove=20the=20drive=20wheels=20and=20tires=20if=20you=E2=80=99re=20sur= e=20they=E2=80=99re=20balanced)=20there=20won=E2=80=99t=20be=20much=20load=20on=20= the=20engine,=20so=20if=20the=20vibration=20is=20due=20to=20deformation=20of=20t= he=20mounts,=20the=20vibration=20should=20not=20appear.=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0ADuncan=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=
=0D=0AOn=20Jun=2015,=202015,=20at=2010:55=20AM,=20toodamnfunky@comcast.net=20wrote:
= =0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0AF= oT,=0D=0A=20=0D=0AI=20h= ave=20a=20driveline=20vibration=20that=20doesn't=20start=20up=20until=20I=20get=20= to=20about=2095-=20100=20MPH.=20I=20figured=20I=20would=20start=20with=20the=20d= riveshaft=0D=0A=20=0D=0Abefore=20looking=20into=20= the=20diff=20or=20OD/trans.=20I=20have=20an=20IRS=20car=20with=20Richard=20Good=20= CV=20axles=20and=20hubs=20so=20it's=20very=20un=20likely=20its=20that=20but=0D=0A=20=0D=0AI=20will=20inspect=20them.=20I'm=20won= dering=20if=20anybody=20has=20any=20advice=20on=20high=20speed=20vibration=20dia= gnosis=20or=20detection.=0D=0A=20=0D=0AWhat=20I'= m=20wondering=20is=20even=20if=20it=20is=20the=20driveshaft=20how=20would=20I=20= know=20with=20it=20sitting=20on=20my=20bench.=20=0D=0A=20=0D=0AAny=20help=20would,=20as=20always=20be=20greatly=20appreciated.=0D=0A=20=0D=0AJim=20g=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A_______________________________________________= =0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A=20=0D=0A=20=20=0D=0A=20=20_______________________________________________=20<= a=20href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net=20=20http://www.fot-racing.com=20=20= Donate:=20http= ://www.team.net/donate.html=20Archive:=20http://www.team.net/archive=20Forums:=20http://www.team.net/forums=20Unsubscribe/Manage:=20http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fo= t/malaboge@aol.com=20=20=20=20=0D=0A=20=20=0D=0A ----------MB_8D275F404E545A3_808_154DA1_webmail-va005.sysops.aol.com-- --===============6322820761646588394== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6322820761646588394==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 16 02:02:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF5D25878BB for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 02:02:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy4-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.23.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E497F2585D43 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 02:01:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 24041 invoked by uid 0); 16 Jun 2015 08:01:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy4.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 16 Jun 2015 08:01:49 -0000 Received: from just64.justhost.com ([173.254.28.64]) by cmgw2 with id gvu91q0061NzpT901vuClU; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 01:54:13 -0600 a=vuSASFU9Tp3ZfMgjgJIBGg==:117 a=uLDvYvOgOfs3xa9etAN/jQ==:17 a=BY8XqHikAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=BDfbDYkREbEA:10 a=wPDyFdB5xvgA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=PqYVp9QRvtMA:10 a=JMHYQVG13d8A:10 a=XAFQembCKUMA:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=55BJk5IO3pmNlBMW49sA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:51998 helo=just64.justhost.com) by just64.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1Z4loW-0002rh-R7; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 02:01:44 -0600 Received: from 83.247.116.40 ([83.247.116.40]) by just64.justhost.com (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:01:42 +0000 Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:01:42 +0000 From: tony@tonydrews.com To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net References: <831343847.29150194.1434383742906.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H5 (6.1.4) Content-Disposition: inline {sentby:smtp auth 127.0.0.1 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net In my case, the bolts at the transmission / driveshaft flange had started to come loose. Only felt it in top gear at high rpm. Really obvious when I started to dig into it. Tony Drews Quoting toodamnfunky@comcast.net: > FoT, > I have a driveline vibration that doesn't start up until I get to > about 95- 100 MPH. I figured I would start with the driveshaft > before looking into the diff or OD/trans. I have an IRS car with > Richard Good CV axles and hubs so it's very un likely its that but > I will inspect them. I'm wondering if anybody has any advice on high > speed vibration diagnosis or detection. > What I'm wondering is even if it is the driveshaft how would I know > with it sitting on my bench. > Any help would, as always be greatly appreciated. > Jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 16 02:28:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD66E2584D3C for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 02:28:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395DE258024F for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 02:20:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from new-host.home ([74.110.155.96]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NQ1006OX364I060@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 03:20:33 -0500 (CDT) a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=XAFQembCKUMA:10 a=dKaUxyAQAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=Y7f6PoQgWLjr8V5O7iIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=VGLg7-GoWV0A:10 a=M5JLVGrAk_8A:10 a=d0jZmtfEhZgA:10 From: Dean Tetterton Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 04:20:28 -0400 References: <831343847.29150194.1434383742906.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <20150616080142.Horde.143Q2-2qQqg-eEMghKGtTA7@just64.justhost.com> To: tony@tonydrews.com Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tony I use Stover Lock nuts on the 3/8-24 drive shaft bolts instead of the nyloc nuts. Hold much better. Dean T. On Jun 16, 2015, at 4:01 AM, tony@tonydrews.com wrote: > In my case, the bolts at the transmission / driveshaft flange had started to come loose. Only felt it in top gear at high rpm. Really obvious when I started to dig into it. > > Tony Drews > > Quoting toodamnfunky@comcast.net: > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 16 06:02:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3342587A22 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 06:02:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41796258511C for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 06:02:11 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge01 smtp.user=rkramer3@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:44960] helo=cdptpa-web06) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id C9/75-04993-B4010855; 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a=XAFQembCKUMA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=Gk8NrVJ6FWqUJHQDXoIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=jNMOTF1biZivxmX7ab0A:9 a=282lmg2WQrBy0bKA:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 From: "Bill Tobin" To: , References: <44831B3A-B957-4C8E-89F3-EF1605F65612@gmail.com> <8D275F404D95EC3-808-BED31@webmail-va005.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:10:02 -0400 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============5946440633800617227== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_05A1_01D0A80B.D8AA9930" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_05A1_01D0A80B.D8AA9930 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Clear as mud. That's basically what I did on my car when I put the = Celica trans in. Works fine. Someone mentioned the exhaust system interference. Last year I did some = work on the car and when I put the exhaust pipes back on, one was very = close to the rear trans mount and gave a hellish hi-freq vibration. Ten = minute fix and an oops! Bill ----- Original Message -----=20 From: malaboge@aol.com=20 To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net=20 Cc: fot@autox.team.net=20 Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration FOTer's, I will assume this car has the stock style trans mount, not the later = TR6 style setup...yeah I know about assuming anything, but here I go. In order to keep the rear of the trans where it belongs and yet allow = some movement and inslulation this is the mod I have utilized. Remove the 2 trans to mount bolts and drill straight down thru those = mounting holes thru the small trans crossmember. Enlarge those new holes = in that crossmember to about 5/8" or so. Purchase 2 new bolts that are = treaded all the way and are long enough to go thru the trans, the trans = mount and the crossmember. Drop the bolt thru the trans and trans mount = and start a nut up the bolt to tighten the trans to the mount. The bolt = will now extend thru the trans, the mount (tighten the nut securely to = hold them together) and the crossmember. Use a large washer and a nyloc = on the bolt where it now extends thru the crossmember. Tighten this = nylock only until it "just" contacts the crossmember. Because the bolt = is smaller than the hole you just drilled it will allow the trans to = move a small distance in any direction, but will stop any excessive = movement, including saving the radiator in event of a serious impact! Clear as mud? A little out of balance in Nor Cal Nick -----Original Message----- From: Duncan Charlton To: toodamnfunky Cc: fot Sent: Mon, Jun 15, 2015 12:23 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration Jim,=20 How are your motor and trans mounts? If they allow the engine/gearbox = combo to shift out of line when under high torque, the u-joints could = move out of proper alignment, but then when power is reduced, things = would shift back into position. If you put the car on jackstands and = run it to this rpm in top gear (might not be a bad idea to remove the = drive wheels and tires if you=E2=80=99re sure they=E2=80=99re balanced) = there won=E2=80=99t be much load on the engine, so if the vibration is = due to deformation of the mounts, the vibration should not appear. Duncan On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:55 AM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: FoT, I have a driveline vibration that doesn't start up until I get to = about 95- 100 MPH. I figured I would start with the driveshaft before looking into the diff or OD/trans. I have an IRS car with = Richard Good CV axles and hubs so it's very un likely its that but I will inspect them. I'm wondering if anybody has any advice on high = speed vibration diagnosis or detection. What I'm wondering is even if it is the driveshaft how would I know = with it sitting on my bench.=20 Any help would, as always be greatly appreciated. Jim g _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net = http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html = Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/malaboge@aol.com =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net ------=_NextPart_000_05A1_01D0A80B.D8AA9930 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Clear as mud. That's basically what I = did on my car=20 when I put the Celica trans in.
Works fine.
Someone mentioned the exhaust system = interference.=20 Last year I did some work on the car and when I put the exhaust pipes = back on,=20 one was very close to the rear trans mount and gave a hellish hi-freq = vibration.=20 Ten minute fix and an oops!
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 malaboge@aol.com=20
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 = 10:33=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High = speed=20 driveline vibration

FOTer's,
I=20 will assume this car has the stock style trans mount, not the later = TR6 style=20 setup...yeah I know about assuming anything, but here I go.
In = order to=20 keep the rear of the trans where it belongs and yet allow some = movement and=20 inslulation this is the mod I have utilized.
Remove the 2 trans to = mount=20 bolts and drill straight down thru those mounting holes thru the small = trans=20 crossmember. Enlarge those new holes in that crossmember to about 5/8" = or so.=20 Purchase 2 new bolts that are treaded all the way and are long enough = to go=20 thru the trans, the trans mount and the crossmember. Drop the bolt = thru the=20 trans and trans mount and start a nut up the bolt to tighten the trans = to the=20 mount. The bolt will now extend thru the trans, the mount (tighten the = nut=20 securely to hold them together) and the crossmember. Use a large = washer and a=20 nyloc on the bolt where it now extends thru the crossmember. Tighten = this=20 nylock only until it "just" contacts the crossmember. Because the bolt = is=20 smaller than the hole you just drilled it will allow the trans to move = a small=20 distance in any direction, but will stop any excessive movement, = including=20 saving the radiator in event of a serious impact!

Clear as=20 mud?

A little out of balance in Nor Cal
Nick


-----Original Message-----
From: Duncan Charlton=20 <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com>
To: toodamnfunky=20 <toodamnfunky@comcast.net>
Cc: fot=20 <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, Jun 15, 2015 12:23 = pm
Subject: Re:=20 [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration

Jim,=20

How are your motor and trans mounts?  If = they allow=20 the engine/gearbox combo to shift out of line when under high torque, = the=20 u-joints could move out of proper alignment, but then when power is = reduced,=20 things would shift back into position.  If you put the car on = jackstands=20 and run it to this rpm in top gear (might not be a bad idea to remove = the=20 drive wheels and tires if you=E2=80=99re sure they=E2=80=99re = balanced) there won=E2=80=99t be much=20 load on the engine, so if the vibration is due to deformation of the = mounts,=20 the vibration should not appear.

Duncan


On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:55 AM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net=20 wrote:

FoT,
I have a driveline vibration that doesn't = start up until=20 I get to about 95- 100 MPH. I figured I would start with the=20 driveshaft
before looking into the diff or OD/trans. I = have an IRS=20 car with Richard Good CV axles and hubs so it's very un likely its = that=20 but
I will inspect them. I'm wondering if anybody = has any=20 advice on high speed vibration diagnosis or detection.
What I'm wondering is even if it is the = driveshaft how=20 would I know with it sitting on my bench.
Any help would, as always be greatly = appreciated.
Jim=20 = g
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2015 07:00:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A525258465D for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 06:55:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.225]) by resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id h0vA1q0024s37d4010vviC; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 12:55:55 +0000 Received: from locutus ([50.170.163.20]) by resomta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id h0vu1q0090Sj6Ay010vukx; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 12:55:54 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: , Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 06:58:14 -0600 Thread-Index: AdCoLE7uWeLLP6suT7+rvBu1cjIiPwABtwSw s=q20140121; t=1434459355; bh=9XfgpmigK/gSd2idzHK8KvtKK4p47XCMQRPQ2cOtjec=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jju8Pn/Gwb4k5KAM0daKuxKDoWEIIAKU7QdYfmHOD/vmUFzkpkiPpqL8r5Ktz1Luj p8RSyI1uJxnPyKC3VQjjshkYi8AhmT6IiS/TsCPafk+b3XdDwr/I5aqrp9S4qQlp6O 6YkroNe08aaopmQ29yAWAy1+QYJEc4P+zUBueT9gbnNwNT2L/cV1mjWJ9CYyAwMFrU K9m6zAt8fDImd9vRmXBu/ebP4IVr2ob/XjpIMks7UE27/ZrqTW7vFVhGEhEbHeXFfE f635Y5UO3ctgq/s6ahnYhPgPMFu9pq8BZrFwVNIMreaDiDwWcKAwwrEUgGeXn83yvZ KZNhyHdgRyRUA== Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have verified all the driveshaft and trans mount bolts are tight. I use a J type OD and I haven't been able to find a trans mount for the J type in this car. I believe they are available for the early tr6 and TR250. Even though I don't believe yet it's the trans mount I would still look at = a better trans mount than I currently have. Does anyone know if the trans mounts were the same from the IRS 4A frame to the TR250 /early TR6 ? I'm still hoping my driveshaft is either out of phase or simply out of balance. jim g -----Original Message----- From: rkramer3@austin.rr.com [mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com] = Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 6:02 AM To: toodamnfunky@comcast.net; malaboge@aol.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration Or just buy one of the ARE poly trans mounts and forgetaboutit. Bob Kramer rkramer3@austin.rr.com ---- malaboge@aol.com wrote: = > FOTer's, > I will assume this car has the stock style trans mount, not the later TR6 style setup...yeah I know about assuming anything, but here I go. > In order to keep the rear of the trans where it belongs and yet allow some movement and inslulation this is the mod I have utilized. > Remove the 2 trans to mount bolts and drill straight down thru those mounting holes thru the small trans crossmember. Enlarge those new holes in that crossmember to about 5/8" or so. Purchase 2 new bolts that are treaded all the way and are long enough to go thru the trans, the trans mount and the crossmember. Drop the bolt thru the trans and trans mount and start a nut up the bolt to tighten the trans to the mount. The bolt will now extend thru the trans, the mount (tighten the nut securely to hold them together) and the crossmember. Use a large washer and a nyloc on the bolt where it now extends thru the crossmember. Tighten this nylock only until it "just" contacts the crossmember. Because the bolt is smaller than the hole you just drilled it will allow the trans to move a small distance in any direction, but will stop any excessive movement, including saving the radiator in event of a serious impact! > = > Clear as mud? > = > A little out of balance in Nor Cal > Nick > = > = > = > = > = > -----Original Message----- > From: Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com> > To: toodamnfunky <toodamnfunky@comcast.net> > Cc: fot <fot@autox.team.net> > Sent: Mon, Jun 15, 2015 12:23 pm > Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration > = > Jim, > How are your motor and trans mounts? =A0If they allow the engine/gearbox combo to shift out of line when under high torque, the u-joints could move out of proper alignment, but then when power is reduced, things would shift back into position. =A0If you put the car on jackstands and run it to this = rpm in top gear (might not be a bad idea to remove the drive wheels and tires if you=92re sure they=92re balanced) there won=92t be much load on the engine,= so if the vibration is due to deformation of the mounts, the vibration should not appear. > Duncan > = > On Jun 15, 2015, at 10:55 AM, toodamnfunky@comcast.net wrote: > FoT, > I have a driveline vibration that doesn't start up until I get to about 95- 100 MPH. I figured I would start with the driveshaft > before looking into the diff or OD/trans. I have an IRS car with Richard Good CV axles and hubs so it's very un likely its that but > I will inspect them. I'm wondering if anybody has any advice on high speed vibration diagnosis or detection. > What I'm wondering is even if it is the driveshaft how would I know with it sitting on my bench. = > Any help would, as always be greatly appreciated. > Jim g > = > = > _______________________________________________ > = > = > = > = > = > = > = > = > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/malaboge@aol.com = > = _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive eam.net From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 16 07:03:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8031C2587C06 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 07:03:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB7D2585314 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 07:03:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::2819:d35:6942:b765]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::2819:d35:6942:b765%15]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 08:03:14 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: Joe Alexander , "" Thread-Topic: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration Thread-Index: AdCoNM0MyE69CV37QxmUsGL6i+4mSg== Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 13:03:13 +0000 References: <20150616120219.Q6ZVP.278007.root@cdptpa-web06> <968D6342-5500-441D-81A7-90871DEA7C46@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.81] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] TR4 High speed driveline vibration Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net SSBjYW4gdm91Y2ggZm9yIHRoZSBnYXNrZXRzLiAgSSBqdXN0IHB1dCBvbmUgb24gdGhlIFNwaXRm 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b=Sk1oAB2gxVpZFlAl/YWDH3oidlq+yxixdIg/FAzCe2v6KYiabmHlLEab9DAllCJXCK 9k4u7+B8w5bOruycSMro/VlkdgmbagLACAQjg9a/qtEFnsjmbr3KygCIyK1ZDN/AV55T gkVBq9UpQoLdH7FujBRfXQ4w5PopN4U9y3s7QM0+VQ+hy5/7inL1r9C+zrnrYxrLers6 ucTKIYuvQxQGXXfkjDX7b2qSdwAH6ZqY3Mi0iXZEqadyEGabzxnY4yZIPHwKHFqcS5Ns ESemupAugw4fMu/T7S8AsvyY2Da2HTEAa76/KOJiVG+wpcA8bkNmDQYUhUhWjO8Nz9lZ +6Zw== Tue, 16 Jun 2015 06:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.46.22 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 06:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 09:27:02 -0400 From: Jason Sukey To: FOT list Subject: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4679250874259963150== --047d7bea2f9899646e0518a287f3 I'm currently looking for a Quaife LSD unit for the Spitfire/GT6 differential. Any recommendations on a source for this- I'm OK with new or used. Thanks! Jason Sukey --047d7bea2f9899646e0518a287f3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm currently looking for a Quaife LSD unit for the Sp= itfire/GT6 differential.=C2=A0 Any recommendations on a source for this- I&= #39;m OK with new or used.

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This= is where I got mine a couple years ago. They had it in stock. Was also the= best price for diff and shipping. They are in UK. Make sure they include a= very detailed description for customs. UPS returned it to sender without c= hecking with sender or receiver. Fed-ex called me. For customs they wanted = to know exactly what it was RE: car part,rear differential, locates in rear= suspension/drive-train of car, made of steel. 

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Jason On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Greg And Alison Blake < ablake2@austin.rr.com> wrote: > Not to spark a huge debate, but I simply weld the spider gears. It's a > little cheaper. > Of course the driving style is a little different. > > Greg > > On Jun 16, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Brian Dennis wrote: > > That looks much better. > Thank you, > Brian > Foster, RI > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Charly > *To:* Jason Sukey ; FOT list ; > Brian Dennis > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:27 AM > *Subject:* Re: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 > > Try this > > http://www.motorsport-tools.com/catalogsearch/result/?carfittment=95&q=quaife > > > > On Tue 16/06/15 6:52 AM , Brian Dennis britracer89@yahoo.com sent: > > This is where I got mine a couple years ago. They had it in stock. Was > > also the best price for diff and shipping. They are in UK. Make sure > > they include a very detailed description for customs. UPS returned it > > to sender without checking with sender or receiver. Fed-ex called me. > > For customs they wanted to know exactly what it was RE: car part,rear > > differential, locates in rear suspension/drive-train of car, made of > > steel. > > Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Marian / Triumph > > - Part Number: QDF8K - Sparktec Motorsports - ATB Helical LSD > > Differentials [1] > > [2] > > Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Ma... > > [3]Manufacturer: Quaife Part Number: QDF8K Product Description: A > > direct replacement for standard open differentials, the Quaife ATB > > Helical LSD differential trans... > > View on www.sparktecmotorsp... [4] > > Preview by Yahoo > > BrianFoster, RI > > ------------------------- > > FROM: Jason Sukey > > TO: FOT list > > SENT: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:27 AM > > SUBJECT: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 > > I'm currently looking for a Quaife LSD unit for the Spitfire/GT6 > > differential. Any recommendations on a source for this- I'm OK with > > new or used. > > Thanks! > > Jason Sukey > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com [5] > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html [6] > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive [7] > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums [8] > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com [9] > > > > > > Links: > > ------ > > [1] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > > [2] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > > [3] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > > [4] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > > [5] http://www.fot-racing.com/ > > [6] http://www.team.net/donate.html > > [7] http://www.team.net/archive > > [8] http://www.team.net/forums > > [9] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com > > > --001a1132f2147c0c3e0518a7e19b Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This diff is going to be used for autox, vintage race, and= street....I think the Quaife offers the best compromise for me- welded spi= ders would be a bit too much.

Jason

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12= :59 PM, Greg And Alison Blake <ablake2@austin.rr.com> wr= ote:
Not to spark = a huge debate, but I simply weld the spider gears. It's a little cheape= r.=C2=A0
Of course the driving style is a little different.=C2=A0=

Greg

On Jun 16, 2015, at 11:02= AM, Brian Dennis <britracer89@yahoo.com> wrote:

That looks much better.=C2=A0
Thank you,
Brian
Foster, RI


Tr= y this

http://www.motorspor= t-tools.com/catalogsearch/result/?carfittment=3D95&q=3Dquaife
<= br>
On Tue 16/06/15=C2=A0 6:52 AM , Brian Dennis britracer89@yahoo.com sent:
>= This is where I got mine a couple years ago. They had it in stock. Was
= > also the best price for diff and shipping. They are in UK. Make sure> they include a very detailed description for customs. UPS returned i= t
> to sender without checking with sender or receiver. Fed-ex called= me.
> For customs they wanted to know exactly what it was RE: car pa= rt,rear
> differential, locates in rear suspension/drive-train of car= , made of
> steel.=C2=A0
> Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential= Caterham / Morris Marian / Triumph
> - Part Number: QDF8K - Sparktec= Motorsports - ATB Helical LSD
> Differentials [1]
> [2]
&g= t; Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Ma...
> [3]= Manufacturer: Quaife Part Number: QDF8K Product Description: A
> dire= ct replacement for standard open differentials, the Quaife ATB
> Heli= cal LSD differential trans...
> View on=C2=A0 www.sparktecmotorsp... = [4]
> Preview by Yahoo
> BrianFoster, RI
> --------------= -----------
> FROM: Jason Sukey
> TO: FOT list=C2=A0
> = SENT: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:27 AM
> SUBJECT: [Fot] Quaife for Spit= fire/GT6
> I'm currently looking for a Quaife LSD unit for the Sp= itfire/GT6
> differential.=C2=A0 Any recommendations on a source for = this- I'm OK with
> new or used.
> Thanks!
> Jason S= ukey
> _______________________________________________
> fot@autox.team.net>
> htt= p://www.fot-racing.com [5]
>
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--001a1132f2147c0c3e0518a7e19b-- --===============5538954125306877163== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5538954125306877163==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 16 14:49:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42C382586A80 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:49:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S17.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s17.hotmail.com [65.55.111.92]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3411B2580B7A for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:49:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU173-W35 ([65.55.111.71]) by BLU004-OMC2S17.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Tue, 16 Jun 2015 13:49:14 -0700 From: Henry Morrison To: "riverside@southslope.net" , Greg And Alison Blake , Brian Dennis Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:49:14 -0600 Importance: Normal References: <19362.1434468452@mitchelplumbing.com>, <671054839.3961113.1434470563269.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com>, <8F354817-A634-4E22-AF50-F3C705D0BA5F@austin.rr.com> , FILETIME=[E7DB3FD0:01D0A875] Cc: fot Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3080896658881924004== boundary="_da3cbc41-6976-4232-950a-fe7943305222_" --_da3cbc41-6976-4232-950a-fe7943305222_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's after the day................ =20 From: riverside@southslope.net To: dos_gusanos@msn.com=3B ablake2@austin.rr.com=3B britracer89@yahoo.com CC: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Date: Tue=2C 16 Jun 2015 14:41:54 -0500 =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= It was legal in the early =9170=92s=0A= =0A= art d=0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= From: Henry Morrison =0A= Sent: Tuesday=2C June 16=2C 2015 2:34 PM=0A= To: Greg And Alison Blake =3B Brian Dennis =0A= =0A= Cc: fot =0A= Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6=0A= =0A= =0A= Welding the gears in the day was illegal. =20 Henry =0A= Morrison =20 =0A= =0A= =0A= From: ablake2@austin.rr.com Date: Tue=2C 16 Jun 2015 11:59:21 -0500 To: =0A= britracer89@yahoo.com CC: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for =0A= Spitfire/GT6 =0A= Not to spark a huge debate=2C but I simply weld the spider gears. It's a = =0A= little cheaper. =0A= Of course the driving style is a little different.=20 Greg=0A= On Jun 16=2C 2015=2C at 11:02 AM=2C Brian Dennis = =0A= wrote: =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= That looks much better. =0A= Thank you=2C=0A= Brian=0A= Foster=2C =0A= RI =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= =0A= From: Charly To: Jason Sukey =3B FOT list =3B Bria= n Dennis =0A= =0A= =20 Sent: Tuesday=2C June 16=2C =0A= 2015 11:27 AM Subject: Re: =0A= Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 =0A= =20 Try =0A= this http://www.motorsport-tools.com/catalogsearch/result/?carfittment=3D95&q=3D= quaife =0A= =20 On Tue 16/06/15 6:52 AM =2C Brian Dennis britracer89@yahoo.com sent: > =0A= This is where I got mine a couple years ago. They had it in stock. =0A= Was > also the best price for diff and shipping. They are in UK. Make =0A= sure > they include a very detailed description for customs. UPS =0A= returned it > to sender without checking with sender or receiver. =0A= Fed-ex called me. > For customs they wanted to know exactly what it =0A= was RE: car part=2Crear > differential=2C locates in rear =0A= suspension/drive-train of car=2C made of > steel. =20 > Quaife =0A= ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Marian / Triumph > - =0A= Part Number: QDF8K - Sparktec Motorsports - ATB Helical LSD > =0A= Differentials [1]=20 > [2] > Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential =0A= Caterham / Morris Ma...=20 > [3]Manufacturer: Quaife Part Number: QDF8K =0A= Product Description: A > direct replacement for standard open =0A= differentials=2C the Quaife ATB > Helical LSD differential =0A= trans... > View on www.sparktecmotorsp... [4] > Preview by =0A= Yahoo > BrianFoster=2C RI > ------------------------- > =0A= FROM: Jason Sukey=20 > TO: FOT list =20 > SENT: Tuesday=2C June =0A= 16=2C 2015 9:27 AM > SUBJECT: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 > I'm =0A= currently looking for a Quaife LSD unit for the Spitfire/GT6 > =0A= differential. 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Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/= GT6
Date: Tue=2C 16 Jun 2015 14:41:54 -0500

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On Jun 16=2C 2015=2C at 11:02 AM=2C Brian Dennis <=3Bbritracer89@yahoo.com>=3B =0A= wrote:

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On Tue 16/06/15 =3B 6:52 AM =2C Brian Dennis britracer89@yahoo.com sent:
>=3B =0A= This is where I got mine a couple years ago. They had it in stock. =0A= Was
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>=3B differential=2C locates in rear =0A= suspension/drive-train of car=2C made of
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&= gt=3B Quaife =0A= ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Marian / Triumph
>= =3B - =0A= Part Number: QDF8K - Sparktec Motorsports - ATB Helical LSD
>=3B = =0A= Differentials [1]
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>=3B Quaife ATB Helical LSD Diffe= rential =0A= Caterham / Morris Ma...
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>=3B direct replacement for standard open = =0A= differentials=2C the Quaife ATB
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>=3B BrianFoster=2C RI
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>=3B SUBJECT: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6
= >=3B I'm =0A= currently looking for a Quaife LSD unit for the Spitfire/GT6
>=3B = =0A= differential. =3B Any recommendations on a source for this- I'm OK = =0A= with
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= --_da3cbc41-6976-4232-950a-fe7943305222_-- --===============3080896658881924004== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3080896658881924004==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 16 15:03:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1872585D99 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 15:03:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f172.google.com (mail-wi0-f172.google.com [209.85.212.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4402580535 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 14:52:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wicnd19 with SMTP id nd19so63944143wic.1 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 13:52:46 -0700 (PDT) d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:thread-index:content-language; bh=gHfn0JiBAd0bemEeJ1JxPizObppBJfPb9Yv6P5pCKXo=; b=N9U3/Z03upQtatYQMzA5XBDAsY8F/qdsDR4PIz/cUHBumgaMmqIRrA2TNG575vSntk VpPP//pGLznR3qF+8kRnCeImHRLKdBx925KgBVftOZD15ybza8ChxcdhXm3bJb1tLrXL yGi2mHuVixLI+1lusanarXqmPVlnOmi0WUApNLNM3SnD2+0YTeSoRE6pVE71ncfm2/Ws L9mlXyJ6beyEauLQuksJdwjXwf73Blxapa+jBVyMBVrCbFL87EjcOGhtALHHK2zwTFRH ep4woz2Godc1o1/mkfzGIP0GJL2Qz8hlcrIj9w5TX0CNIW3jXBQY4OG4pwMzBSo4TJ4h VRhQ== Tue, 16 Jun 2015 13:52:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.161.191.148]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ej5sm3405331wjd.22.2015.06.16.13.52.45 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 16 Jun 2015 13:52:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 22:52:47 +0200 Thread-Index: AdCi2QDfJ1MzdnAxT3idRPobarwoNgFnTGmA Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] The DVD is ready! Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============8280408908134550494== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0031_01D0A887.2B2794D0" Content-Language: de This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01D0A887.2B2794D0 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I=92ve got my copy today and I was so pleased to see so many faces = I=92ve met at Road America. Also the racing footage is great. Okay, I must confess, I don=92t have enough eyes to follow all the = screens on the K-Cup race J =20 Cheers Chris =20 Von: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Im Auftrag von John Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Juni 2015 19:10 An: fot@autox.team.net Betreff: [Fot] The DVD is ready! =20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIQ6h1u_kkCU The full details are on www.triumphdvd.co.uk where you will find a whole bunch of stills from the video which - in addition to the preview = trailer - will give you a pretty good idea of what to expect. A lot of time has = gone into it so I hope you all think it's TRific. If you've had something form my web site previously I hope you've kept = the link to the previous customer page but if not drop me an email and I'll = send it through again. I haven't heard from everyone who let me use their in-car cameras so = could Paul King, Tony Drews, Mike Moore, Jeff Clark and Mike Munson please let = me have their postal addresses so a finished copy can be sent gratis. Most people receiving this email and wanting a copy of the DVD will be = in North America so in case you have any trouble with the PayPal buttons on = my web site this link should take you straight there - https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=3D_s-xclick &hosted_button_id=3DG75SF3WNTNERY John C. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01D0A887.2B2794D0 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I’ve got my copy today and I was so pleased to see so many = faces I’ve met at Road America.

Also the racing footage is great.

Okay, I must confess, I don’t have enough eyes to follow all = the screens on the K-Cup race J

 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIQ6h1u_kkCU
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Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 16 22:22:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E95225878C6 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 22:22:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.162]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D3025844B2 for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 22:20:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-13v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.237]) by resqmta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id hGLm1q00557bBgG01GLmTE; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 04:20:46 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.110] ([71.196.236.31]) by resomta-po-13v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id hGLl1q00P0hKggf01GLlZK; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 04:20:46 +0000 References: <19362.1434468452@mitchelplumbing.com> <671054839.3961113.1434470563269.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <8F354817-A634-4E22-AF50-F3C705D0BA5F@austin.rr.com> From: Bud Rolofson Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 22:20:44 -0600 To: Jason Sukey s=q20140121; t=1434514846; bh=rEdSsSb4Dd895tHEZPuEB2N2tIoqPNPUsXRY1HjPXQI=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=h091qrCSYNggB5sDboAjf7J+G3+/RoNa6YkGOOsLyKOKSaGkUA07mWEslc0qxVALy TjxGF8i/Uaxbhsy+pCKd7ClDR6yPTROAnGxyKj53aj6h4h4Tp4aTB9D9ziscWzRP1b bv0p1zWlgCnFsvmOx0VMSyRYmJpU9QSA6rVzeX+vNdMqfTsSqJpYB8m76zeK1uSAja EnGAnE+U8TxQgHWhZiWCKJGjiPwTh8pfeHgwYtUK0RidiSgEP4LHL+h2HCNH1u19R3 ar3U0BTjCfwY188nfa+zrN8S/g8iICJlacz9mN+20UvERwe3t+7oYqpKdkCop3Xyk+ 5HSO8Qed8zU/g== Cc: FOT list Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1253076375265881672== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit boundary=Apple-Mail-C83FCA26-580C-4D7F-A8A3-F64818A08043 --Apple-Mail-C83FCA26-580C-4D7F-A8A3-F64818A08043 charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jason, Take a look at these options. Marcel uses the Yukon I believe and the other l= ets you convert your diff to a LSD.. I have tried neither but they look like good options to the Quaife. Bud https://www.yukongear.com/Downloads/Manuals/Zip_Locker_Installation_Manual.p= df http://www.importperformanceparts.net/imports/phantomgrip-triumph.html Sent from my Commodore 64 > On Jun 16, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Jason Sukey wrote: >=20 > This diff is going to be used for autox, vintage race, and street....I thi= nk the Quaife offers the best compromise for me- welded spiders would be a b= it too much. >=20 > Jason >=20 >> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: >> Not to spark a huge debate, but I simply weld the spider gears. It's a li= ttle cheaper.=20 >> Of course the driving style is a little different.=20 >>=20 >> Greg >>=20 >>> On Jun 16, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Brian Dennis wrote= : >>>=20 >>> That looks much better.=20 >>> Thank you, >>> Brian >>> Foster, RI >>>=20 >>> From: Charly >>> To: Jason Sukey ; FOT list ; Brian= Dennis =20 >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:27 AM >>> Subject: Re: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 >>>=20 >>> Try this >>>=20 >>> http://www.motorsport-tools.com/catalogsearch/result/?carfittment=3D95&q= =3Dquaife=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Tue 16/06/15 6:52 AM , Brian Dennis britracer89@yahoo.com sent: >>> > This is where I got mine a couple years ago. They had it in stock. Was= >>> > also the best price for diff and shipping. They are in UK. Make sure >>> > they include a very detailed description for customs. UPS returned it >>> > to sender without checking with sender or receiver. Fed-ex called me. >>> > For customs they wanted to know exactly what it was RE: car part,rear >>> > differential, locates in rear suspension/drive-train of car, made of >>> > steel. =20 >>> > Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Marian / Triumph= >>> > - Part Number: QDF8K - Sparktec Motorsports - ATB Helical LSD >>> > Differentials [1]=20 >>> > [2] >>> > Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Ma...=20 >>> > [3]Manufacturer: Quaife Part Number: QDF8K Product Description: A >>> > direct replacement for standard open differentials, the Quaife ATB >>> > Helical LSD differential trans... >>> > View on www.sparktecmotorsp... [4] >>> > Preview by Yahoo >>> > BrianFoster, RI >>> > ------------------------- >>> > FROM: Jason Sukey=20 >>> > TO: FOT list =20 >>> > SENT: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:27 AM >>> > SUBJECT: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 >>> > I'm currently looking for a Quaife LSD unit for the Spitfire/GT6 >>> > differential. Any recommendations on a source for this- I'm OK with >>> > new or used.=20 >>> > Thanks! >>> > Jason Sukey >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > fot@autox.team.net >>> >=20 >>> > http://www.fot-racing.com [5] >>> >=20 >>> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html [6] >>> > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive [7] >>> > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums [8] >>> > Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com [9] >>> >=20 >>> >=20 >>> > Links: >>> > ------ >>> > [1] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html >>> > [2] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html >>> > [3] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html >>> > [4] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html >>> > [5] http://www.fot-racing.com/ >>> > [6] http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> > [7] http://www.team.net/archive >>> > [8] http://www.team.net/forums >>> > [9] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com >>> >=20 >>> >=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> fot@autox.team.net >>>=20 >>> http://www.fot-racing.com >>>=20 >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@au= stin.rr.com >>>=20 >>>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@com= cast.net >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-C83FCA26-580C-4D7F-A8A3-F64818A08043 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jason,

Take a= look at these options. Marcel uses the Yukon I believe and the other lets y= ou convert your diff to a LSD..
I have tried neither but they look= like good options to the Quaife.

Bud

<= br>
Sent from my Commodore 64

On Jun 16, 2015, at 1:50 PM, J= ason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com> w= rote:

This diff= is going to be used for autox, vintage race, and street....I think the Quai= fe offers the best compromise for me- welded spiders would be a bit too much= .

Jason

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Greg And Alison Blake <= span dir=3D"ltr"><ablake2@austin.rr.com> wrote:
Not to spark a huge debate, but I simply weld th= e spider gears. It's a little cheaper. 
Of course the driving= style is a little different. 

Greg
=

On Jun 16, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Brian Dennis <britracer89@yahoo.com> wrote:<= br>
That looks much b= etter. 
Thank you,
Brian
Foster, RI<= /div>
<= font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"> From: Charly <charly@mitchelplumbing.com>
To: Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com>; FOT list <fot@autox.team.net>; Brian Dennis &= lt;britracer89@ya= hoo.com>
Sent: Tu= esday, June 16, 2015 11:27 AM
Subjec= t: Re: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6
=
Try this

http://www.motor= sport-tools.com/catalogsearch/result/?carfittment=3D95&q=3Dquaife

On Tue 16/06/15  6:52 AM , Brian Dennis britracer89@yahoo.com sent:
>= ; This is where I got mine a couple years ago. They had it in stock. Was
= > also the best price for diff and shipping. They are in UK. Make sure> they include a very detailed description for customs. UPS returned it<= br>> to sender without checking with sender or receiver. Fed-ex called me= .
> For customs they wanted to know exactly what it was RE: car part,r= ear
> differential, locates in rear suspension/drive-train of car, mad= e of
> steel. 
> Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Cater= ham / Morris Marian / Triumph
> - Part Number: QDF8K - Sparktec Motors= ports - ATB Helical LSD
> Differentials [1]
> [2]
> Quaif= e ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Ma...
> [3]Manufactu= rer: Quaife Part Number: QDF8K Product Description: A
> direct replace= ment for standard open differentials, the Quaife ATB
> Helical LSD dif= ferential trans...
> View on  www.sparktecmotorsp... [4]
> P= review by Yahoo
> BrianFoster, RI
> -------------------------> FROM: Jason Sukey
> TO: FOT list 
> SENT: Tuesday, J= une 16, 2015 9:27 AM
> SUBJECT: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6
> I= 'm currently looking for a Quaife LSD unit for the Spitfire/GT6
> diff= erential.  Any recommendations on a source for this- I'm OK with
>= ; new or used.
> Thanks!
> Jason Sukey
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= --Apple-Mail-C83FCA26-580C-4D7F-A8A3-F64818A08043-- --===============1253076375265881672== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1253076375265881672==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 16 23:36:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD212587C1F for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 23:36:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (fed1rmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDBA258054F for ; Tue, 16 Jun 2015 23:35:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo306 ([68.230.241.174]) by fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20150617053556.GEAE11247.fed1rmfepo203.cox.net@fed1rmimpo306> for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 01:35:56 -0400 Received: from Bedroom ([70.176.189.205]) by fed1rmimpo306 with cox id hHbv1q00b4SLNRA01Hbvgn; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 01:35:55 -0400 a=uetZiEMWpZhrLyW6kl3xSA==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=Jh2qCAFuAAAA:8 a=grmTje-iAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=p_3VnqCNAAAA:8 a=k4OGVYi5AAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=NcDIJUqMAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=lSXpTFc2CZisuSnTQfgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=6GOpK4YL3L8A:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=yStRAOXWMOYA:10 a=JiEfN8u286CdwrdR:21 a=vHPFCPylyzAz5icj:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=SbXIy89XYaqX2S2jgtIA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=Hqu_E6--ByoQu6L4:21 a=u-snVEpGj3b3iN8g:21 a=bnYRVbEoZ0fKhDcI:21 a=uetZiEMWpZhrLyW6kl3xSA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'Bud Rolofson'" , "'Jason Sukey'" References: <19362.1434468452@mitchelplumbing.com> <671054839.3961113.1434470563269.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <8F354817-A634-4E22-AF50-F3C705D0BA5F@austin.rr.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 22:36:02 -0700 Thread-Index: AdCotT7OleWnztNfQ8OByvfrmB0JigACb/aA Cc: 'FOT list' Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============4515065915349987314== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0093_01D0A884.D3592A90" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0093_01D0A884.D3592A90 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I don't know anything about the Yukon, but I can say that the PhantomGrip is more phantom than grip. When I tried it, my times did not improve any over an open diff. Save your money on that option. The Quaife does provide limited slip potential but because it is torque biased, if you break an axle or U-Joint on one side, you lose all drive on both sides. So you will be pushing the car off the course. Joe _____ From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Rolofson Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:21 PM To: Jason Sukey Cc: FOT list Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Jason, Take a look at these options. Marcel uses the Yukon I believe and the other lets you convert your diff to a LSD.. I have tried neither but they look like good options to the Quaife. Bud https://www.yukongear.com/Downloads/Manuals/Zip_Locker_Installation_Manual.p df http://www.importperformanceparts.net/imports/phantomgrip-triumph.html Sent from my Commodore 64 On Jun 16, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Jason Sukey wrote: This diff is going to be used for autox, vintage race, and street....I think the Quaife offers the best compromise for me- welded spiders would be a bit too much. Jason On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: Not to spark a huge debate, but I simply weld the spider gears. It's a little cheaper. Of course the driving style is a little different. Greg On Jun 16, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Brian Dennis wrote: That looks much better. Thank you, Brian Foster, RI _____ From: Charly To: Jason Sukey ; FOT list ; Brian Dennis Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Try this http://www.motorsport-tools.com/catalogsearch/result/?carfittment=95 &q=quaife On Tue 16/06/15 6:52 AM , Brian Dennis britracer89@yahoo.com sent: > This is where I got mine a couple years ago. They had it in stock. Was > also the best price for diff and shipping. They are in UK. Make sure > they include a very detailed description for customs. UPS returned it > to sender without checking with sender or receiver. Fed-ex called me. > For customs they wanted to know exactly what it was RE: car part,rear > differential, locates in rear suspension/drive-train of car, made of > steel. > Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Marian / Triumph > - Part Number: QDF8K - Sparktec Motorsports - ATB Helical LSD > Differentials [1] > [2] > Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Ma... > [3]Manufacturer: Quaife Part Number: QDF8K Product Description: A > direct replacement for standard open differentials, the Quaife ATB > Helical LSD differential trans... > View on www.sparktecmotorsp... [4] > Preview by Yahoo > BrianFoster, RI > ------------------------- > FROM: Jason Sukey > TO: FOT list > SENT: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:27 AM > SUBJECT: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 > I'm currently looking for a Quaife LSD unit for the Spitfire/GT6 > differential. 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I don’t know anything about = the Yukon, but I = can say that the PhantomGrip is more phantom than grip.  When I tried it, = my times did not improve any over an open diff.  Save your money on that = option.

 

The Quaife does provide limited = slip potential but because it is torque biased, if you break an axle or = U-Joint on one side, you lose all drive on both sides.  So you will be pushing = the car off the course.

 

Joe

 

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Rolofson
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, = 2015 9:21 PM
To: Jason Sukey
Cc: FOT list
Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife = for Spitfire/GT6

 

Jason,

 

Take a look at these options. Marcel uses the Yukon I believe and the other lets = you convert your diff to a LSD..

I have tried neither but they look like good options to the = Quaife.

 

Bud

 

 



Sent from my Commodore 64


On Jun 16, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com> wrote:

This diff is going to be used for autox, vintage race, and = street....I think the Quaife offers the best compromise for me- welded spiders would = be a bit too much.

 

Jason

 

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Greg And Alison Blake <ablake2@austin.rr.com> wrote:

Not to spark a huge debate, but I simply weld the spider gears. = It's a little cheaper. 

Of course the driving style is a little different. 

Greg


On Jun 16, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Brian = Dennis <britracer89@yahoo.com> wrote:

That looks much better. 

Thank you,

Brian

Foster, RI

 <= /o:p>

From: Charly <charly@mitchelplumbing.com>
To: Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com>; FOT list <fot@autox.team.net>; Brian Dennis <britracer89@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, = 2015 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Fot] = Quaife for Spitfire/GT6

=


Try this

http://www.motorsport-tools.com/catalogsearch/result/?c= arfittment=3D95&q=3Dquaife


On Tue 16/06/15  6:52 AM , Brian = Dennis britracer89@yahoo.com sent:
> This is where I got mine a couple years ago. They had it in stock. = Was
> also the best price for diff and shipping. They are in = UK. = Make sure
> they include a very detailed description for customs. UPS returned = it
> to sender without checking with sender or receiver. Fed-ex called = me.
> For customs they wanted to know exactly what it was RE: car = part,rear
> differential, locates in rear suspension/drive-train of car, made = of
> steel. 
> Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Marian / = Triumph
> - Part Number: QDF8K - Sparktec Motorsports - ATB Helical LSD
> Differentials [1]
> [2]
> Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Ma...
> [3]Manufacturer: Quaife Part Number: QDF8K Product Description: = A
> direct replacement for standard open differentials, the Quaife = ATB
> Helical LSD differential trans...
> View on  www.sparktecmotorsp... [4]
> Preview by Yahoo
> BrianFoster, RI
> -------------------------
> FROM: Jason Sukey
> TO: FOT list 
> SENT: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:27 AM
> SUBJECT: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6
> I'm currently looking for a Quaife LSD unit for the = Spitfire/GT6
> differential.  Any recommendations on a source for this- I'm = OK with
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> Thanks!
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I had the Phantom Grip with the heavy = duty springs. It worked for almost one hill climb event. I shipped the diff= out to them for their"extreme" treatment. They re-machine the spring seats= to accept bigger heavier springs. Again worked for about one hill climb ev= ent. I suspect with the dry installation of the friction blocks it took tha= t long for the oil to work in between the blocks and spider gears. This was= just my experience with that diff. Maybe with street tires in non-race con= ditions it may work better. My recommendation is to stay away from that one= . Brian=20 -----Original Message----- From: "Bud Rolofson" Sent: =E2=80=8E6/=E2=80=8E17/=E2=80=8E2015 12:22 AM To: "Jason Sukey" Cc: "FOT list" Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Jason, Take a look at these options. Marcel uses the Yukon I believe and the other= lets you convert your diff to a LSD.. I have tried neither but they look like good options to the Quaife. Bud https://www.yukongear.com/Downloads/Manuals/Zip_Locker_Installation_Manual.= pdf http://www.importperformanceparts.net/imports/phantomgrip-triumph.html Sent from my Commodore 64 On Jun 16, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Jason Sukey wrote: This diff is going to be used for autox, vintage race, and street....I thin= k the Quaife offers the best compromise for me- welded spiders would be a b= it too much. Jason On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: Not to spark a huge debate, but I simply weld the spider gears. It's a litt= le cheaper.=20 Of course the driving style is a little different.=20 Greg On Jun 16, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Brian Dennis wrote: That looks much better.=20 Thank you, Brian Foster, RI From: Charly To: Jason Sukey ; FOT list ; Brian De= nnis =20 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Try this http://www.motorsport-tools.com/catalogsearch/result/?carfittment=3D95&q=3D= quaife=20 On Tue 16/06/15 6:52 AM , Brian Dennis britracer89@yahoo.com sent: > This is where I got mine a couple years ago. They had it in stock. Was > also the best price for diff and shipping. They are in UK. Make sure > they include a very detailed description for customs. UPS returned it > to sender without checking with sender or receiver. Fed-ex called me. > For customs they wanted to know exactly what it was RE: car part,rear > differential, locates in rear suspension/drive-train of car, made of > steel. =20 > Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Marian / Triumph > - Part Number: QDF8K - Sparktec Motorsports - ATB Helical LSD > Differentials [1]=20 > [2] > Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Ma...=20 > [3]Manufacturer: Quaife Part Number: QDF8K Product Description: A > direct replacement for standard open differentials, the Quaife ATB > Helical LSD differential trans... > View on www.sparktecmotorsp... [4] > Preview by Yahoo > BrianFoster, RI > ------------------------- > FROM: Jason Sukey=20 > TO: FOT list =20 > SENT: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:27 AM > SUBJECT: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 > I'm currently looking for a Quaife LSD unit for the Spitfire/GT6 > differential. Any recommendations on a source for this- I'm OK with > new or used.=20 > Thanks! > Jason Sukey > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com [5] >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html [6] > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive [7] > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums [8] > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com [9] >=20 >=20 > Links: > ------ > [1] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > [2] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > [3] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > [4] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > [5] http://www.fot-racing.com/ > [6] http://www.team.net/donate.html > [7] http://www.team.net/archive > [8] http://www.team.net/forums > [9] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com >=20 >=20 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive n.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ast.net= --_B7BDA91D-B5DF-454E-BEC4-D2AA33E4E887_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The Traction Concepts model looks like the o= ld Phantom Grip, AKA: phantom slip as in it doesn't work very well. I had t= he Phantom Grip with the heavy duty springs. It worked for almost one hill = climb event. I shipped the diff out to them for their"extreme" treatment. T= hey re-machine the spring seats to accept bigger heavier springs. Again wor= ked for about one hill climb event. I suspect with the dry installation of = the friction blocks it took that long for the oil to work in between the bl= ocks and spider gears. This was just my experience with that diff. Maybe wi= th street tires in non-race conditions it may work better. My recommendatio= n is to stay away from that one.
Brian
= From: Bud Rolofson
Sent: =E2=80=8E6/=E2=80=8E17/=E2=80=8E2015 12:22 AMTo: Jason Sukey
= Cc: FOT list
Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6

J= ason,

Take a look at these options. Marcel uses th= e Yukon I believe and the other lets you convert your diff to a LSD..
=
I have tried neither but they look like good options to the Quaife.

Bud




Sent from my Commodore= 64

On Jun 16, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com> wrote:

This diff is going to be used for= autox, vintage race, and street....I think the Quaife offers the best comp= romise for me- welded spiders would be a bit too much.

J= ason

O= n Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Greg And Alison Blake &l= t;ablake2@austin= .rr.com> wrote:
Not to spark a huge debate, but I simply weld the spider gears. I= t's a little cheaper. 
Of course the driving style is a litt= le different. 

Greg

On Jun= 16, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Brian Dennis <britracer89@yahoo.com> wrote:

=
That looks much better. 
Thank = you,
Brian
= Foster, RI

=
From: Charly <charly@mitchelplumbing.com>
To: Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com>; FOT li= st <fot@autox.te= am.net>; Brian Dennis <britracer89@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Fot] Quaife for= Spitfire/GT6

Try this

http://www.motorsport-tools.com/catalogsearch/resul= t/?carfittment=3D95&q=3Dquaife


On Tue 16/06/15  6:= 52 AM , Brian Dennis britracer89@yahoo.com sent:
> This is where I got mine a cou= ple years ago. They had it in stock. Was
> also the best price for di= ff and shipping. They are in UK. Make sure
> they include a very deta= iled description for customs. UPS returned it
> to sender without che= cking with sender or receiver. Fed-ex called me.
> For customs they w= anted to know exactly what it was RE: car part,rear
> differential, l= ocates in rear suspension/drive-train of car, made of
> steel.  =
> Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Marian / Tri= umph
> - Part Number: QDF8K - Sparktec Motorsports - ATB Helical LSD<= br>> Differentials [1]
> [2]
> Quaife ATB Helical LSD Diffe= rential Caterham / Morris Ma...
> [3]Manufacturer: Quaife Part Numbe= r: QDF8K Product Description: A
> direct replacement for standard ope= n differentials, the Quaife ATB
> Helical LSD differential trans...> View on  www.sparktecmotorsp... [4]
> Preview by Yahoo> BrianFoster, RI
> -------------------------
> FROM: Jason= Sukey
> TO: FOT list 
> SENT: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:= 27 AM
> SUBJECT: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6
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= --_B7BDA91D-B5DF-454E-BEC4-D2AA33E4E887_-- --===============5568369797700537971== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5568369797700537971==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 17 05:38:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC2325881A1 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 05:38:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FDA42580852 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 05:29:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::2819:d35:6942:b765]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::2819:d35:6942:b765%15]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 06:29:15 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: Joe Curry , 'Bud Rolofson' , 'Jason Sukey' Thread-Topic: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Thread-Index: AQHQqEj2tJAPhecrS0WLSL1BK4Xu4wACb/aAnbB83NA= Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 11:29:14 +0000 References: <19362.1434468452@mitchelplumbing.com> <671054839.3961113.1434470563269.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <8F354817-A634-4E22-AF50-F3C705D0BA5F@austin.rr.com> <8923D4F98EA348408A97FD2E84576D9B@Bedroom> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.81] Cc: 'FOT list' Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2712356082969576143== Content-Language: en-US boundary="_000_84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50BA672B0SVREXCH02mccart_" --_000_84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50BA672B0SVREXCH02mccart_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Quaife isn't ideal purely for racing, but it would be a great compromis= e for a car that's street legal and sees time on the track, too. Once you= unweight the right rear tire, you lose drive. But that's not going to hap= pen on the street at anything like legal (or reasonable) speeds. And on th= e track, it has the benefit of teaching you to be very smooth transitioning= the weight of the car around - if you don't turn in smoothly enough, you'l= l unweight that tire and regret it. Scott B. From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Curry Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 12:36 AM To: 'Bud Rolofson'; 'Jason Sukey' Cc: 'FOT list' Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 I don't know anything about the Yukon, but I can say that the PhantomGrip i= s more phantom than grip. When I tried it, my times did not improve any ov= er an open diff. Save your money on that option. The Quaife does provide limited slip potential but because it is torque bia= sed, if you break an axle or U-Joint on one side, you lose all drive on bot= h sides. So you will be pushing the car off the course. Joe ________________________________ From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Rolofson Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:21 PM To: Jason Sukey Cc: FOT list Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Jason, Take a look at these options. Marcel uses the Yukon I believe and the other= lets you convert your diff to a LSD.. I have tried neither but they look like good options to the Quaife. Bud https://www.yukongear.com/Downloads/Manuals/Zip_Locker_Installation_Manual.= pdf http://www.importperformanceparts.net/imports/phantomgrip-triumph.html Sent from my Commodore 64 ail.com>> wrote: This diff is going to be used for autox, vintage race, and street....I thin= k the Quaife offers the best compromise for me- welded spiders would be a b= it too much. Jason On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Greg And Alison Blake > wrote: That looks much better. Thank you, Brian Foster, RI ________________________________ > Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Try this http://www.motorsport-tools.com/catalogsearch/result/?carfittment=3D95&q=3D= quaife cer89@yahoo.com> sent: > This is where I got mine a couple years ago. They had it in stock. Was > also the best price for diff and shipping. They are in UK. Make sure > they include a very detailed description for customs. UPS returned it > to sender without checking with sender or receiver. Fed-ex called me. > For customs they wanted to know exactly what it was RE: car part,rear > differential, locates in rear suspension/drive-train of car, made of > steel. > Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Marian / Triumph > - Part Number: QDF8K - Sparktec Motorsports - ATB Helical LSD > Differentials [1] > [2] > Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Ma... > [3]Manufacturer: Quaife Part Number: QDF8K Product Description: A > direct replacement for standard open differentials, the Quaife ATB > Helical LSD differential trans... > View on www.sparktecmotorsp... [4] > Preview by Yahoo > BrianFoster, RI > ------------------------- > FROM: Jason Sukey > TO: FOT list > SENT: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:27 AM > SUBJECT: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 > I'm currently looking for a Quaife LSD unit for the Spitfire/GT6 > differential. Any recommendations on a source for this- I'm OK with > new or used. > Thanks! > Jason Sukey > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.fot-racing.com [5] > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html [6] > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive [7] > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums [8] > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com [9] > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > [2] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > [3] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > [4] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > [5] http://www.fot-racing.com/ > [6] http://www.team.net/donate.html > [7] http://www.team.net/archive > [8] http://www.team.net/forums > [9] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive n.rr.com _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ast.net --_000_84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50BA672B0SVREXCH02mccart_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The Quaife isn’t ideal purely f= or racing, but it would be a great compromise for a car that’s street= legal and sees time on the track, too.   Once you unweight the right rear tire, you lose drive.  But that’s not going to h= appen on the street at anything like legal (or reasonable) speeds.  An= d on the track, it has the benefit of teaching you to be very smooth transi= tioning the weight of the car around – if you don’t turn in smoothly enough, you’ll unweight that tire and regret it.

 

Scott B.

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.= team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Curry
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 12:36 AM
To: 'Bud Rolofson'; 'Jason Sukey'
Cc: 'FOT list'
Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6

 

I don’t know anything about the Yuko= n, but I can say that the PhantomGrip is more phantom than grip.  When= I tried it, my times did not improve any over an open diff.  Save your money on that option.

 

The Quaife does provide limited slip poten= tial but because it is torque biased, if you break an axle or U-Joint on on= e side, you lose all drive on both sides.  So you will be pushing the car off the course.

 

Joe

 

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Rolofson
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:21 PM
To: Jason Sukey
Cc: FOT list
Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6

 

Jason,

 

Take a look at these options. Marcel uses the Yukon = I believe and the other lets you convert your diff to a LSD..

I have tried neither but they look like good options= to the Quaife.

 

Bud

 

 



Sent from my Commodore 64


On Jun 16, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com> wrote:

This diff is going to be used for autox, vintage rac= e, and street....I think the Quaife offers the best compromise for me- weld= ed spiders would be a bit too much.

 

Jason

 

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Greg And Alison Bl= ake <ablake2@= austin.rr.com> wrote:

Not to spark a huge debate, but I simply weld the sp= ider gears. It's a little cheaper. 

Of course the driving style is a little different.&n= bsp;

Greg


On Jun 16, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Brian Dennis <britracer89@yahoo.com> wrote:

That looks much better.&nbs= p;

Thank you,

Brian

Foster, RI

 

From: Charly <charly@mitchelplumbing.com>
To: Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com>; FOT list <fot@autox.team.net>; Brian Dennis <britracer89@yahoo.co= m>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6


Try this

http://www.motorsport-tools.com/ca= talogsearch/result/?carfittment=3D95&q=3Dquaife


On Tue 16/06/15  6:52 AM , Brian Dennis britracer89@yahoo.com sent:
> This is where I got mine a couple years ago. They had it in stock. Was=
> also the best price for diff and shipping. They are in UK. Make sure > they include a very detailed description for customs. UPS returned it<= br> > to sender without checking with sender or receiver. Fed-ex called me.<= br> > For customs they wanted to know exactly what it was RE: car part,rear<= br> > differential, locates in rear suspension/drive-train of car, made of > steel. 
> Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Marian / Triumph=
> - Part Number: QDF8K - Sparktec Motorsports - ATB Helical LSD
> Differentials [1]
> [2]
> Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Ma...
> [3]Manufacturer: Quaife Part Number: QDF8K Product Description: A
> direct replacement for standard open differentials, the Quaife ATB
> Helical LSD differential trans...
> View on  www.sparktecmotor= sp... [4]
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> BrianFoster, RI
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> FROM: Jason Sukey
> TO: FOT list 
> SENT: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:27 AM
> SUBJECT: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6
> I'm currently looking for a Quaife LSD unit for the Spitfire/GT6
> differential.  Any recommendations on a source for this- I'm OK w= ith
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-0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p02c12o143.mxlogic.net (p02c12o143.mxlogic.net [208.65.145.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59BB725806FD for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 08:10:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO p02c12o143.mxlogic.net) by p02c12o143.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.4.0-1) with ESMTP id ddf71855.2b7bb59f9940.122685.00-554.336584.p02c12o143.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Wed, 17 Jun 2015 08:10:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] by p02c12o143.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.4.0-1) over TLS secured channel with SMTP id 9cf71855.0.121739.00-270.335955.p02c12o143.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Wed, 17 Jun 2015 08:10:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::dc8d:98d4:a80c:1957]) by ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 10:09:39 -0400 From: John Hasty To: Joe Curry , 'Bud Rolofson' , 'Jason Sukey' Thread-Topic: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Thread-Index: AdCotT7OOUf8JaCQ30C/YmsRx/hOgAACb/aAABIjoYA= Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 14:09:40 +0000 References: <19362.1434468452@mitchelplumbing.com> <671054839.3961113.1434470563269.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <8F354817-A634-4E22-AF50-F3C705D0BA5F@austin.rr.com> <8923D4F98EA348408A97FD2E84576D9B@Bedroom> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [192.168.123.236] x-exclaimer-md-config: cee22798-72e9-40a9-949b-68671b12e107 Cc: 'FOT list' Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2253816970069810647== Content-Language: en-US boundary="_000_F4B338FE9635B14C903076FEC6B0E2A5550C8EBBATLPEXDAG006xcl_" --_000_F4B338FE9635B14C903076FEC6B0E2A5550C8EBBATLPEXDAG006xcl_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just wondering why no one has mentioned the Salisbury unit...I find that it= works great...not sure exactly how it is set up....maybe 60/30...Larry, do= you remember? John H. Hasty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A. Attorney at Law 301 South York Street (zip: 28052) P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053-0488 Telephone: 704.864.6751 | Facsimile: 704.861.8394 JHasty@mhc-law.com | www.mhc-law.com From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Curry Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 1:36 AM To: 'Bud Rolofson'; 'Jason Sukey' Cc: 'FOT list' Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 I don't know anything about the Yukon, but I can say that the PhantomGrip i= s more phantom than grip. When I tried it, my times did not improve any ov= er an open diff. Save your money on that option. The Quaife does provide limited slip potential but because it is torque bia= sed, if you break an axle or U-Joint on one side, you lose all drive on bot= h sides. So you will be pushing the car off the course. Joe ________________________________ From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Rolofson Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:21 PM To: Jason Sukey Cc: FOT list Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Jason, Take a look at these options. Marcel uses the Yukon I believe and the other= lets you convert your diff to a LSD.. I have tried neither but they look like good options to the Quaife. Bud https://www.yukongear.com/Downloads/Manuals/Zip_Locker_Installation_Manual.= pdf http://www.importperformanceparts.net/imports/phantomgrip-triumph.html Sent from my Commodore 64 ail.com>> wrote: This diff is going to be used for autox, vintage race, and street....I thin= k the Quaife offers the best compromise for me- welded spiders would be a b= it too much. Jason On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Greg And Alison Blake > wrote: That looks much better. Thank you, Brian Foster, RI ________________________________ > Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Try this http://www.motorsport-tools.com/catalogsearch/result/?carfittment=3D95&q=3D= quaife cer89@yahoo.com> sent: > This is where I got mine a couple years ago. They had it in stock. Was > also the best price for diff and shipping. They are in UK. Make sure > they include a very detailed description for customs. UPS returned it > to sender without checking with sender or receiver. Fed-ex called me. > For customs they wanted to know exactly what it was RE: car part,rear > differential, locates in rear suspension/drive-train of car, made of > steel. > Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Marian / Triumph > - Part Number: QDF8K - Sparktec Motorsports - ATB Helical LSD > Differentials [1] > [2] > Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Ma... > [3]Manufacturer: Quaife Part Number: QDF8K Product Description: A > direct replacement for standard open differentials, the Quaife ATB > Helical LSD differential trans... > View on www.sparktecmotorsp... [4] > Preview by Yahoo > BrianFoster, RI > ------------------------- > FROM: Jason Sukey > TO: FOT list > SENT: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:27 AM > SUBJECT: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 > I'm currently looking for a Quaife LSD unit for the Spitfire/GT6 > differential. Any recommendations on a source for this- I'm OK with > new or used. > Thanks! > Jason Sukey > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.fot-racing.com [5] > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html [6] > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive [7] > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums [8] > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com [9] > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > [2] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > [3] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > [4] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > [5] http://www.fot-racing.com/ > [6] http://www.team.net/donate.html > [7] http://www.team.net/archive > [8] http://www.team.net/forums > [9] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive n.rr.com _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ast.net --_000_F4B338FE9635B14C903076FEC6B0E2A5550C8EBBATLPEXDAG006xcl_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just wondering why no one has mention= ed the Salisbury unit…I find that it works great…not sure exact= ly how it is set up….maybe 60/30…Larry, do you remember?

 

John H. H= asty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A<= b>.

Attorney at Law

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P.O. Box 488
Gastonia, NC 28053-0488
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From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.= team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Curry
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 1:36 AM
To: 'Bud Rolofson'; 'Jason Sukey'
Cc: 'FOT list'
Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6

 

I don’t know anything about the Yuko= n, but I can say that the PhantomGrip is more phantom than grip.  When= I tried it, my times did not improve any over an open diff.  Save your money on that option.

 

The Quaife does provide limited slip poten= tial but because it is torque biased, if you break an axle or U-Joint on on= e side, you lose all drive on both sides.  So you will be pushing the car off the course.

 

Joe

 

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Rolofson
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:21 PM
To: Jason Sukey
Cc: FOT list
Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6

 

Jason,

 

Take a look at these options. Marcel uses the Yukon = I believe and the other lets you convert your diff to a LSD..

I have tried neither but they look like good options= to the Quaife.

 

Bud

 

 



Sent from my Commodore 64


On Jun 16, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com> wrote:

This diff is going to be used for autox, vintage rac= e, and street....I think the Quaife offers the best compromise for me- weld= ed spiders would be a bit too much.

 

Jason

 

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Greg And Alison Bl= ake <ablake2@= austin.rr.com> wrote:

Not to spark a huge debate, but I simply weld the sp= ider gears. It's a little cheaper. 

Of course the driving style is a little different.&n= bsp;

Greg


On Jun 16, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Brian Dennis <britracer89@yahoo.com> wrote:

That looks much better.&nbs= p;

Thank you,

Brian

Foster, RI

 

From: Charly <charly@mitchelplumbing.com>
To: Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com>; FOT list <fot@autox.team.net>; Brian Dennis <britracer89@yahoo.co= m>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6


Try this

http://www.motorsport-tools.com/ca= talogsearch/result/?carfittment=3D95&q=3Dquaife


On Tue 16/06/15  6:52 AM , Brian Dennis britracer89@yahoo.com sent:
> This is where I got mine a couple years ago. They had it in stock. Was=
> also the best price for diff and shipping. They are in UK. Make sure > they include a very detailed description for customs. UPS returned it<= br> > to sender without checking with sender or receiver. Fed-ex called me.<= br> > For customs they wanted to know exactly what it was RE: car part,rear<= br> > differential, locates in rear suspension/drive-train of car, made of > steel. 
> Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Marian / Triumph=
> - Part Number: QDF8K - Sparktec Motorsports - ATB Helical LSD
> Differentials [1]
> [2]
> Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Ma...
> [3]Manufacturer: Quaife Part Number: QDF8K Product Description: A
> direct replacement for standard open differentials, the Quaife ATB
> Helical LSD differential trans...
> View on  www.sparktecmotor= sp... [4]
> Preview by Yahoo
> BrianFoster, RI
> -------------------------
> FROM: Jason Sukey
> TO: FOT list 
> SENT: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:27 AM
> SUBJECT: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6
> I'm currently looking for a Quaife LSD unit for the Spitfire/GT6
> differential.  Any recommendations on a source for this- I'm OK w= ith
> new or used.
> Thanks!
> Jason Sukey
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Have they ever made one for that application? Joe C. _____ From: John Hasty [mailto:jhasty@mhc-law.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:10 AM To: Joe Curry; 'Bud Rolofson'; 'Jason Sukey' Cc: 'FOT list' Subject: RE: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Just wondering why no one has mentioned the Salisbury unit.I find that it works great.not sure exactly how it is set up..maybe 60/30.Larry, do you remember? John H. Hasty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A. Attorney at Law 301 South York Street (zip: 28052) P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053-0488 Telephone: 704.864.6751 | Facsimile: 704.861.8394 JHasty@mhc-law.com | www.mhc-law.com From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Curry Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 1:36 AM To: 'Bud Rolofson'; 'Jason Sukey' Cc: 'FOT list' Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 I don't know anything about the Yukon, but I can say that the PhantomGrip is more phantom than grip. When I tried it, my times did not improve any over an open diff. Save your money on that option. The Quaife does provide limited slip potential but because it is torque biased, if you break an axle or U-Joint on one side, you lose all drive on both sides. So you will be pushing the car off the course. Joe _____ From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Rolofson Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:21 PM To: Jason Sukey Cc: FOT list Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Jason, Take a look at these options. Marcel uses the Yukon I believe and the other lets you convert your diff to a LSD.. I have tried neither but they look like good options to the Quaife. Bud https://www.yukongear.com/Downloads/Manuals/Zip_Locker_Installation_Manual.p df http://www.importperformanceparts.net/imports/phantomgrip-triumph.html Sent from my Commodore 64 On Jun 16, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Jason Sukey wrote: This diff is going to be used for autox, vintage race, and street....I think the Quaife offers the best compromise for me- welded spiders would be a bit too much. Jason On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Greg And Alison Blake wrote: Not to spark a huge debate, but I simply weld the spider gears. It's a little cheaper. Of course the driving style is a little different. Greg On Jun 16, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Brian Dennis wrote: That looks much better. Thank you, Brian Foster, RI _____ From: Charly To: Jason Sukey ; FOT list ; Brian Dennis Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Try this http://www.motorsport-tools.com/catalogsearch/result/?carfittment=95 &q=quaife On Tue 16/06/15 6:52 AM , Brian Dennis britracer89@yahoo.com sent: > This is where I got mine a couple years ago. They had it in stock. Was > also the best price for diff and shipping. They are in UK. Make sure > they include a very detailed description for customs. UPS returned it > to sender without checking with sender or receiver. Fed-ex called me. > For customs they wanted to know exactly what it was RE: car part,rear > differential, locates in rear suspension/drive-train of car, made of > steel. > Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Marian / Triumph > - Part Number: QDF8K - Sparktec Motorsports - ATB Helical LSD > Differentials [1] > [2] > Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Ma... > [3]Manufacturer: Quaife Part Number: QDF8K Product Description: A > direct replacement for standard open differentials, the Quaife ATB > Helical LSD differential trans... > View on www.sparktecmotorsp... [4] > Preview by Yahoo > BrianFoster, RI > ------------------------- > FROM: Jason Sukey > TO: FOT list > SENT: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:27 AM > SUBJECT: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 > I'm currently looking for a Quaife LSD unit for the Spitfire/GT6 > differential. Any recommendations on a source for this- I'm OK with > new or used. > Thanks! > Jason Sukey > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com [5] > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html [6] > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive [7] > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums [8] > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com [9] > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > [2] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > [3] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > [4] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > [5] http://www.fot-racing.com/ > [6] http://www.team.net/donate.html > [7] http://www.team.net/archive > [8] http://www.team.net/forums > [9] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net ------=_NextPart_000_0039_01D0A8E5.DA9724E0 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have never seen a Salisbury for the Spitfire = diff.  Have they ever made one for that application?

 

Joe C.

 

From: = John Hasty [mailto:jhasty@mhc-law.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, = 2015 7:10 AM
To: Joe Curry; 'Bud = Rolofson'; 'Jason Sukey'
Cc: 'FOT list'
Subject: RE: [Fot] Quaife = for Spitfire/GT6

 

Just = wondering why no one has mentioned the Salisbury unit…I find that it works great…not sure exactly how it is = set up….maybe 60/30…Larry, do you = remember?

 <= /o:p>

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From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Curry
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, = 2015 1:36 AM
To: 'Bud Rolofson'; = 'Jason Sukey'
Cc: 'FOT list'
Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife = for Spitfire/GT6

 

I don’t know anything about = the Yukon, but I = can say that the PhantomGrip is more phantom than grip.  When I tried it, = my times did not improve any over an open diff.  Save your money on that = option.

 

The Quaife does provide limited = slip potential but because it is torque biased, if you break an axle or = U-Joint on one side, you lose all drive on both sides.  So you will be pushing = the car off the course.

 

Joe

 

 

From: Fot = [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.= net] On Behalf Of Bud = Rolofson
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, = 2015 9:21 PM
To: Jason Sukey
Cc: FOT list
Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife = for Spitfire/GT6

 

Jason,

 

Take a look at these options. Marcel uses the Yukon I believe and the other lets = you convert your diff to a LSD..

I have tried neither but they look like good options to the = Quaife.

 

Bud

 

 



Sent from my Commodore 64


On Jun 16, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com> wrote:

This diff is going to be used for autox, vintage race, and = street....I think the Quaife offers the best compromise for me- welded spiders would = be a bit too much.

 

Jason

 

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Greg And Alison Blake <ablake2@austin.rr.com> wrote:

Not to spark a huge debate, but I simply weld the spider gears. = It's a little cheaper. 

Of course the driving style is a little different. 

Greg


On Jun 16, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Brian = Dennis <britracer89@yahoo.com> wrote:

That looks much better. 

Thank you,

Brian

Foster, RI

 <= /o:p>

From: Charly <charly@mitchelplumbing.com>
To: Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com>; FOT list <fot@autox.team.net>; Brian Dennis <britracer89@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, = 2015 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Fot] = Quaife for Spitfire/GT6

=


Try this

http://www.motorsport-tools.com/catalogsearch/result/?c= arfittment=3D95&q=3Dquaife


On Tue 16/06/15  6:52 AM , Brian = Dennis britracer89@yahoo.com sent:
> This is where I got mine a couple years ago. They had it in stock. = Was
> also the best price for diff and shipping. They are in = UK. = Make sure
> they include a very detailed description for customs. UPS returned = it
> to sender without checking with sender or receiver. Fed-ex called = me.
> For customs they wanted to know exactly what it was RE: car = part,rear
> differential, locates in rear suspension/drive-train of car, made = of
> steel. 
> Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Marian / = Triumph
> - Part Number: QDF8K - Sparktec Motorsports - ATB Helical LSD
> Differentials [1]
> [2]
> Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Ma...
> [3]Manufacturer: Quaife Part Number: QDF8K Product Description: = A
> direct replacement for standard open differentials, the Quaife = ATB
> Helical LSD differential trans...
> View on  www.sparktecmotorsp... [4]
> Preview by Yahoo
> BrianFoster, RI
> -------------------------
> FROM: Jason Sukey
> TO: FOT list 
> SENT: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:27 AM
> SUBJECT: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6
> I'm currently looking for a Quaife LSD unit for the = Spitfire/GT6
> differential.  Any recommendations on a source for this- I'm = OK with
> new or used.
> Thanks!
> Jason Sukey
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------=_NextPart_000_0039_01D0A8E5.DA9724E0-- --===============1639399628195583572== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1639399628195583572==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 17 11:25:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23FC125887EC for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 11:25:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p01c11o143.mxlogic.net (p01c11o143.mxlogic.net [208.65.144.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB23625844CE for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 11:20:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO xcentric.com.outbound10.mxlogic.net) by p01c11o143.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.4.0-1) with ESMTP id a7ca1855.2b4168a00940.1344660.00-595.3754108.p01c11o143.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Wed, 17 Jun 2015 11:20:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO xcentric.com.outbound10.mxlogic.net) by p01c11o143.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.4.0-1) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 57ca1855.0.1344589.00-354.3753909.p01c11o143.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Wed, 17 Jun 2015 11:20:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::dc8d:98d4:a80c:1957]) by ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 13:20:52 -0400 From: John Hasty To: Joe Curry , 'Bud Rolofson' , 'Jason Sukey' Thread-Topic: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Thread-Index: AdCotT7OOUf8JaCQ30C/YmsRx/hOgAACb/aAABIjoYAABjY2EAAAenUg Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 17:20:53 +0000 References: <19362.1434468452@mitchelplumbing.com> <671054839.3961113.1434470563269.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <8F354817-A634-4E22-AF50-F3C705D0BA5F@austin.rr.com> <8923D4F98EA348408A97FD2E84576D9B@Bedroom> <816FCB67C0184DE482AF9B4CA6F2745A@Bedroom> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [192.168.123.236] x-exclaimer-md-config: cee22798-72e9-40a9-949b-68671b12e107 Cc: 'FOT list' Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1902350889076655449== Content-Language: en-US boundary="_000_F4B338FE9635B14C903076FEC6B0E2A5550C902DATLPEXDAG006xcl_" --_000_F4B338FE9635B14C903076FEC6B0E2A5550C902DATLPEXDAG006xcl_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Don't know...I have a TR3....you might check with Taylor... John H. Hasty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A. Attorney at Law 301 South York Street (zip: 28052) P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053-0488 Telephone: 704.864.6751 | Facsimile: 704.861.8394 JHasty@mhc-law.com | www.mhc-law.com From: Joe Curry [mailto:spitlist@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 1:11 PM To: John Hasty; 'Bud Rolofson'; 'Jason Sukey' Cc: 'FOT list' Subject: RE: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 I have never seen a Salisbury for the Spitfire diff. Have they ever made o= ne for that application? Joe C. ________________________________ From: John Hasty [mailto:jhasty@mhc-law.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:10 AM To: Joe Curry; 'Bud Rolofson'; 'Jason Sukey' Cc: 'FOT list' Subject: RE: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Just wondering why no one has mentioned the Salisbury unit...I find that it= works great...not sure exactly how it is set up....maybe 60/30...Larry, do= you remember? John H. Hasty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A. Attorney at Law 301 South York Street (zip: 28052) P.O. Box 488 Gastonia, NC 28053-0488 Telephone: 704.864.6751 | Facsimile: 704.861.8394 JHasty@mhc-law.com | www.mhc-law.com From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Curry Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 1:36 AM To: 'Bud Rolofson'; 'Jason Sukey' Cc: 'FOT list' Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 I don't know anything about the Yukon, but I can say that the PhantomGrip i= s more phantom than grip. When I tried it, my times did not improve any ov= er an open diff. Save your money on that option. The Quaife does provide limited slip potential but because it is torque bia= sed, if you break an axle or U-Joint on one side, you lose all drive on bot= h sides. So you will be pushing the car off the course. Joe ________________________________ From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Rolofson Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:21 PM To: Jason Sukey Cc: FOT list Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Jason, Take a look at these options. Marcel uses the Yukon I believe and the other= lets you convert your diff to a LSD.. I have tried neither but they look like good options to the Quaife. Bud https://www.yukongear.com/Downloads/Manuals/Zip_Locker_Installation_Manual.= pdf http://www.importperformanceparts.net/imports/phantomgrip-triumph.html Sent from my Commodore 64 ail.com>> wrote: This diff is going to be used for autox, vintage race, and street....I thin= k the Quaife offers the best compromise for me- welded spiders would be a b= it too much. Jason On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Greg And Alison Blake > wrote: That looks much better. Thank you, Brian Foster, RI ________________________________ > Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 Try this http://www.motorsport-tools.com/catalogsearch/result/?carfittment=3D95&q=3D= quaife cer89@yahoo.com> sent: > This is where I got mine a couple years ago. They had it in stock. Was > also the best price for diff and shipping. They are in UK. Make sure > they include a very detailed description for customs. UPS returned it > to sender without checking with sender or receiver. Fed-ex called me. > For customs they wanted to know exactly what it was RE: car part,rear > differential, locates in rear suspension/drive-train of car, made of > steel. > Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Marian / Triumph > - Part Number: QDF8K - Sparktec Motorsports - ATB Helical LSD > Differentials [1] > [2] > Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Ma... > [3]Manufacturer: Quaife Part Number: QDF8K Product Description: A > direct replacement for standard open differentials, the Quaife ATB > Helical LSD differential trans... > View on www.sparktecmotorsp... [4] > Preview by Yahoo > BrianFoster, RI > ------------------------- > FROM: Jason Sukey > TO: FOT list > SENT: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:27 AM > SUBJECT: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6 > I'm currently looking for a Quaife LSD unit for the Spitfire/GT6 > differential. Any recommendations on a source for this- I'm OK with > new or used. > Thanks! > Jason Sukey > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.fot-racing.com [5] > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html [6] > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive [7] > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums [8] > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com [9] > > > Links: > ------ > [1] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > [2] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > [3] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > [4] http://www.sparktecmotorsports.com/qua-qdf8k.html > [5] http://www.fot-racing.com/ > [6] http://www.team.net/donate.html > [7] http://www.team.net/archive > [8] http://www.team.net/forums > [9] http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/britracer89@yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive n.rr.com _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ast.net --_000_F4B338FE9635B14C903076FEC6B0E2A5550C902DATLPEXDAG006xcl_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Don’t know…I have a TR3&#= 8230;.you might check with Taylor…

 

John H. H= asty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A<= b>.

Attorney at Law

301 South York Street  (zip: 28052= )
P.O. Box 488
Gastonia, NC 28053-0488
Telephone: 704.864.6751 | Facsimile: 704.861.8394
JHasty@mhc-law.com<= /span> | www.mhc-law.com=

 

From: Joe Curry [mailto:spitlist@cox= .net]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 1:11 PM
To: John Hasty; 'Bud Rolofson'; 'Jason Sukey'
Cc: 'FOT list'
Subject: RE: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6

 

I have never seen a Salisbury for the Spit= fire diff.  Have they ever made one for that application?

 

Joe C.

 

From: John Hasty [mailto:jhasty@mhc-law.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 7:10 AM
To: Joe Curry; 'Bud Rolofson'; 'Jason Sukey'
Cc: 'FOT list'
Subject: RE: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6

 

Just wondering why no one has mention= ed the Salisbury unit…I find that it works great…not sure exact= ly how it is set up….maybe 60/30…Larry, do you remember?

 

John H. H= asty | MULLEN HOLLAND & COOPER P.A<= b>.

Attorney at Law

301 South York Street  (zip: 28052= )
P.O. Box 488
Gastonia, NC 28053-0488
Telephone: 704.864.6751 | Facsimile: 704.861.8394
JHasty@mhc-law.com<= /span> | www.mhc-law.com=

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Curry
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 1:36 AM
To: 'Bud Rolofson'; 'Jason Sukey'
Cc: 'FOT list'
Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6

 

I don’t know anything about the Yuko= n, but I can say that the PhantomGrip is more phantom than grip.  When= I tried it, my times did not improve any over an open diff.  Save your money on that option.

 

The Quaife does provide limited slip poten= tial but because it is torque biased, if you break an axle or U-Joint on on= e side, you lose all drive on both sides.  So you will be pushing the car off the course.

 

Joe

 

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bud Rolofson
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:21 PM
To: Jason Sukey
Cc: FOT list
Subject: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6

 

Jason,

 

Take a look at these options. Marcel uses the Yukon = I believe and the other lets you convert your diff to a LSD..

I have tried neither but they look like good options= to the Quaife.

 

Bud

 

 



Sent from my Commodore 64


On Jun 16, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com> wrote:

This diff is going to be used for autox, vintage rac= e, and street....I think the Quaife offers the best compromise for me- weld= ed spiders would be a bit too much.

 

Jason

 

On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Greg And Alison Bl= ake <ablake2@= austin.rr.com> wrote:

Not to spark a huge debate, but I simply weld the sp= ider gears. It's a little cheaper. 

Of course the driving style is a little different.&n= bsp;

Greg


On Jun 16, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Brian Dennis <britracer89@yahoo.com> wrote:

That looks much better.&nbs= p;

Thank you,

Brian

Foster, RI

 

From: Charly <charly@mitchelplumbing.com>
To: Jason Sukey <jsukey@gmail.com>; FOT list <fot@autox.team.net>; Brian Dennis <britracer89@yahoo.co= m>
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6


Try this

http://www.motorsport-tools.com/ca= talogsearch/result/?carfittment=3D95&q=3Dquaife


On Tue 16/06/15  6:52 AM , Brian Dennis britracer89@yahoo.com sent:
> This is where I got mine a couple years ago. They had it in stock. Was=
> also the best price for diff and shipping. They are in UK. Make sure > they include a very detailed description for customs. UPS returned it<= br> > to sender without checking with sender or receiver. Fed-ex called me.<= br> > For customs they wanted to know exactly what it was RE: car part,rear<= br> > differential, locates in rear suspension/drive-train of car, made of > steel. 
> Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Marian / Triumph=
> - Part Number: QDF8K - Sparktec Motorsports - ATB Helical LSD
> Differentials [1]
> [2]
> Quaife ATB Helical LSD Differential Caterham / Morris Ma...
> [3]Manufacturer: Quaife Part Number: QDF8K Product Description: A
> direct replacement for standard open differentials, the Quaife ATB
> Helical LSD differential trans...
> View on  www.sparktecmotor= sp... [4]
> Preview by Yahoo
> BrianFoster, RI
> -------------------------
> FROM: Jason Sukey
> TO: FOT list 
> SENT: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 9:27 AM
> SUBJECT: [Fot] Quaife for Spitfire/GT6
> I'm currently looking for a Quaife LSD unit for the Spitfire/GT6
> differential.  Any recommendations on a source for this- I'm OK w= ith
> new or used.
> Thanks!
> Jason Sukey
> _______________________________________________
> fot@autox.team= .net
>
> http://www.fo= t-racing.com [5]
>
> Donate:  http://www.team.net/donate.html [6]
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I would like to nominate Jim Bynum for membership. He has picked up a TR7 and =C2=A0plans to enter it as = a vintage race car.....shooting for next May's Jefferson 500 at Summit = Point.

 

Jim currently runs a Porsche 944 race car, he is = heading to WG this weekend for a DE event there.  He races it in = PCA Club Racing as well. From Jim:

 

=E2=80=9CI'm planning to pull the motor in the Fall and = start the rebuild (which I'll be doing myself).=C2=A0 I have a guy who = will do the roll cage this winter once I strip the chassis down.=C2=A0 = And then I'll start piecing the rest together.

 

I'm also looking for any pictures of TR7 or TR8 race = cars - would like to use them to get ideas for "decorating" = the car to give it that '70s vintage look.=C2=A0 I've seen the Group 44 = cars, but don't plan to go to that extreme with the fender flares and = fiberglass stuff.

 

Anyway, any info/advice you might have would be very = welcome!=E2=80=9D

 

Can I have a second?

 

Thanks

Paul

 

------=_NextPart_000_0037_01D0A906.37FC8BA0-- --===============2341020798246996987== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2341020798246996987==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 17 12:55:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425CA258882E for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:55:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S22.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s22.hotmail.com [65.55.111.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B11258454B for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:45:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU436-SMTP168 ([65.55.111.73]) by BLU004-OMC2S22.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Wed, 17 Jun 2015 11:46:08 -0700 From: Vangoughv Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 14:46:01 -0400 References: <003601d0a927$bf0ca500$3d25ef00$@rogers.com> To: Paul MacDonald FILETIME=[DEF4EC00:01D0A92D] Cc: Fot , Jim Bynum Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4016489803363383926== boundary="Apple-Mail-24D4D9F7-92EE-4738-AFCE-8744ABEB1333" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-24D4D9F7-92EE-4738-AFCE-8744ABEB1333 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds great !! Seconded :) Vince > On Jun 17, 2015, at 2:02 PM, Paul MacDonald wrote:= >=20 > =20 > I would like to nominate Jim Bynum for membership. He has picked up a TR7 a= nd plans to enter it as a vintage race car.....shooting for next May's Jeff= erson 500 at Summit Point. > =20 > Jim currently runs a Porsche 944 race car, he is heading to WG this weeken= d for a DE event there. He races it in PCA Club Racing as well. =46rom Jim:= > =20 > =E2=80=9CI'm planning to pull the motor in the Fall and start the rebuild (= which I'll be doing myself). I have a guy who will do the roll cage this wi= nter once I strip the chassis down. And then I'll start piecing the rest to= gether. > =20 > I'm also looking for any pictures of TR7 or TR8 race cars - would like to u= se them to get ideas for "decorating" the car to give it that '70s vintage l= ook. I've seen the Group 44 cars, but don't plan to go to that extreme with= the fender flares and fiberglass stuff. > =20 > Anyway, any info/advice you might have would be very welcome!=E2=80=9D > =20 > Can I have a second? > =20 > Thanks > Paul > =20 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@ho= tmail.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-24D4D9F7-92EE-4738-AFCE-8744ABEB1333 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sounds great !!  Seconded :)
<= br>Vince

On Jun 17, 2015, at 2:02 PM, Paul MacDonald <macdonaldp@rogers.com> wrote:
=

 

I would like to nominate Jim Bynum fo= r membership. He has picked up= a TR7 and  plans to enter it as a vintage race car.....shooting for ne= xt May's Jefferson 500 at Summit Point.

 

<= p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white">Jim currently runs a Porsche 944 race car, he is= heading to WG this weekend for a DE event there.  He races it in PCA C= lub Racing as well. =46rom Jim:

=  

=E2=80=9CI'm planning to p= ull the motor in the Fall and start the rebuild (which I'll be doing myself)= .  I have a guy who will do the roll cage this winter once I strip the c= hassis down.  And then I'll start piecing the rest together.=

 

I'm also looking for any pictures of TR7 or TR8 race cars - would= like to use them to get ideas for "decorating" the car to give it that '70s= vintage look.  I've seen the Group 44 cars, but don't plan to go to th= at extreme with the fender flares and fiberglass stuff.

 

Anyway, any info/advice you might have would be very welcome!=E2=80=9D=

 

Can I have a second?

 

Thanks<= /span>

Paul=

 

= --Apple-Mail-24D4D9F7-92EE-4738-AFCE-8744ABEB1333-- --===============4016489803363383926== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4016489803363383926==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 17 12:56:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79DB6258468D for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:56:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm4-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm4-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.165]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F47258454B for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 12:53:34 -0600 (MDT) t=1434567223; bh=nQPycbU+G1OS35BLADpRO/meBfj3Z+1/3haKOU9he9U=; h=References:In-Reply-To:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:From:Subject; b=KCJVoXesVb6q2PWmLvyvbRZxWDBFrK2/0NFrgXSlCH609uXdv7sJe/LauzKV0Gy9EyBHOsccL9stYXXnOXW1KZxVohQ9RiENycHPUZC8YWsNBqRhlNZXAspQtemwe9VcTq6UCnO0kBiG5cucIi1moF/xSfETW9Vmjdk13EJHR22OzW6kkP2ieoUzetJ69htd/Z3JHGraO+vwlV/C5OmemXJFyuyhmw9UGUI/UDlR2luRfyDg0zndJK7lOSoM5tvGDdeiXnkugwIAdRV+IM6qTuQjok9xosDm4sLzYJ2cbEe2ST4QVnmcy4sCvnW8j56hm+zsI4SjyjgYDFK96OM4zA== Received: from [98.137.12.58] by nm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jun 2015 18:53:43 -0000 Received: from [98.136.164.71] by tm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jun 2015 18:53:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp233.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Jun 2015 18:53:43 -0000 yny0fW9fXQSDTKo9YdX34iij5vU1i6kjg1JzsXu6WewiVFk9nDrW7McXeY38 YjDBszKP4N_edLOvmSTLU2aiIIq.bPbIo0g9xX3kxTwFVf0.zlI_UOfx1IeI HnzL0JDUSHuC1Ay.N_qKKAKmY31n6Y7gfBqJnBwfRdMQjtg2484QxjCrFfp8 Hf7SwCNh4Q0aco_VAV8hsM6DnP8poH0r1LuMak8ly3LBoqCbHSg6ZaAaVcRa g15y65aK3PB9libY93XrzOmg5pHQLgG9EhtDnw4jeCfYv.q.g22uRrLhW3rG 5vZgOkqO8NxfgySZJIeYsxoOgdrB_eOrJcZg.Qi2ljvGK2ogF9BQS1MoF09D HgXtHuq6ugb8ZdlIIeY9Agpp6p9vsDcEk81fgWamXIZbvAYRssKwo9qii8_W hBIs25kuWW7Z7aEGmJS1GkG7SHoeIBC4Av4Ku2lNgXt8XYHbTv_.CaoML4lo yMZ0z8ZGySQPKAUGwRa.Hpm.L_mqNPOg3LvdH References: <003601d0a927$bf0ca500$3d25ef00$@rogers.com> From: Mike Deweerd Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 14:53:26 -0400 To: Paul MacDonald Cc: Fot , Jim Bynum Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5512464645231132551== boundary=Apple-Mail-D6BADC52-4B59-4A3D-B4E1-77A9C36D6AB3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-D6BADC52-4B59-4A3D-B4E1-77A9C36D6AB3 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'll second for a TR7 to get in our grid=20 Welcome aboard !=20 Mike Deweerd=20 Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 17, 2015, at 2:02 PM, "Paul MacDonald" wrot= e: >=20 > =20 > I would like to nominate Jim Bynum for membership. He has picked up a TR7 a= nd plans to enter it as a vintage race car.....shooting for next May's Jeff= erson 500 at Summit Point. > =20 > Jim currently runs a Porsche 944 race car, he is heading to WG this weeken= d for a DE event there. He races it in PCA Club Racing as well. =46rom Jim:= > =20 > =E2=80=9CI'm planning to pull the motor in the Fall and start the rebuild (= which I'll be doing myself). I have a guy who will do the roll cage this wi= nter once I strip the chassis down. And then I'll start piecing the rest to= gether. > =20 > I'm also looking for any pictures of TR7 or TR8 race cars - would like to u= se them to get ideas for "decorating" the car to give it that '70s vintage l= ook. I've seen the Group 44 cars, but don't plan to go to that extreme with= the fender flares and fiberglass stuff. > =20 > Anyway, any info/advice you might have would be very welcome!=E2=80=9D > =20 > Can I have a second? > =20 > Thanks > Paul > =20 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/deweerdm@rog= ers.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-D6BADC52-4B59-4A3D-B4E1-77A9C36D6AB3 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'll second for a TR7 to get in our gr= id 
Welcome aboard ! 
Mike Deweerd 
=


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2015, at 2:02 PM, "= Paul MacDonald" <macdonaldp@roge= rs.com> wrote:

 

I would like to nominate Jim Bynum fo= r membership. He has picked up= a TR7 and  plans to enter it as a vintage race car.....shooting for ne= xt May's Jefferson 500 at Summit Point.

 

<= p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white">Jim currently runs a Porsche 944 race car, he is= heading to WG this weekend for a DE event there.  He races it in PCA C= lub Racing as well. =46rom Jim:

=  

=E2=80=9CI'm planning to p= ull the motor in the Fall and start the rebuild (which I'll be doing myself)= .  I have a guy who will do the roll cage this winter once I strip the c= hassis down.  And then I'll start piecing the rest together.=

 

I'm also looking for any pictures of TR7 or TR8 race cars - would= like to use them to get ideas for "decorating" the car to give it that '70s= vintage look.  I've seen the Group 44 cars, but don't plan to go to th= at extreme with the fender flares and fiberglass stuff.

 

Anyway, any info/advice you might have would be very welcome!=E2=80=9D=

 

Can I have a second?

 

Thanks<= /span>

Paul=

 

= --Apple-Mail-D6BADC52-4B59-4A3D-B4E1-77A9C36D6AB3-- --===============5512464645231132551== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5512464645231132551==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 17 13:23:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14AF2584503 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 13:23:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD492584503 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 13:23:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.230]) by resqmta-po-07v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id hXND1q0044yXVJQ01XPD3U; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:23:13 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-208v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.176.218]) by resomta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id hXPD1q00C4j68Km01XPDXT; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:23:13 +0000 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:23:12 +0000 (UTC) From: toodamnfunky@comcast.net To: Paul MacDonald References: <003601d0a927$bf0ca500$3d25ef00$@rogers.com> Thread-Topic: Nomination Thread-Index: AdCpJ7tAbMmU4W+/Ts6JpWvfxNFrgUPwpEDF s=q20140121; t=1434568993; bh=wo2pflZIq0VafG8TTCZJwZg/43udRF4RzZQ9VePCxho=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=HgN8kJRTKPTFjtER1+eHOLanQIigncVcbouNmTZ7O+7Bibv2C5hX1nVQcMhD7hLHU 4Q3ryaHAyYK+1NQC1ygV6qTkC15aAFcaykFGIe1c1k4vkyks1d0eTDcDV2LfxrVwxM fU1adkYnyr98yZR8tJzA1022cPTrAzc+k3u/xq8P88AZi3fPlMSamnPGFUIsibWWsK e8qZ8fD8l5GWffL7yKcKdXDLiWDYgGKNwtKUQzZJHvHJIzon08wA3BiMkbMhHNy3T3 kEAVHLZCdCGTJaLPtRoVPZlRRMpg8ABNc6Ni2rAauxGDHs1GrU0Hsnzt2vjEB1/H6D J1LxYckzrML6Q== Cc: fot , Jim Bynum Subject: Re: [Fot] Nomination Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1812607094123261438== boundary="----=_Part_30767878_1006037465.1434568992753" ------=_Part_30767878_1006037465.1434568992753 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable As a former TR7 owner I will second.=20 Jim g=20 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul MacDonald" =20 To: "fot" =20 Cc: "Jim Bynum" =20 Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 12:02:15 PM=20 Subject: [Fot] Nomination=20 =C2=A0=20 I would like to nominate Jim Bynum for membership . He has picked up a TR7 = and =C2=A0plans to enter it as a vintage race car.....shooting for next May= 's Jefferson 500 at Summit Point.=20 =C2=A0=20 Jim currently runs a Porsche 944 race car, he is heading to WG this weekend= for a DE event there.=C2=A0 He races it in PCA Club Racing as well. From J= im:=20 =C2=A0=20 =E2=80=9CI'm planning to pull the motor in the Fall and start the rebuild (= which I'll be doing myself).=C2=A0 I have a guy who will do the roll cage t= his winter once I strip the chassis down.=C2=A0 And then I'll start piecing= the rest together.=20 =C2=A0=20 I'm also looking for any pictures of TR7 or TR8 race cars - would like to u= se them to get ideas for "decorating" the car to give it that '70s vintage = look.=C2=A0 I've seen the Group 44 cars, but don't plan to go to that extre= me with the fender flares and fiberglass stuff.=20 =C2=A0=20 Anyway, any info/advice you might have would be very welcome!=E2=80=9D=20 =C2=A0=20 Can I have a second?=20 =C2=A0=20 Thanks=20 Paul=20 =C2=A0=20 _______________________________________________=20 fot@autox.team.net=20 http://www.fot-racing.com=20 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive=20 comcast.net=20 ------=_Part_30767878_1006037465.1434568992753 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As a former TR7 owner I will second.
Jim g

<= B>From: "Paul MacDonald" <macdonaldp@rogers.com>
To: "f= ot" <fot@autox.team.net>
Cc: "Jim Bynum" <hobiecat23@yah= oo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 12:02:15 PM
Subje= ct: [Fot] Nomination

 

I would like to nominate Jim Bynum for me= mbership. He has picked up a TR7 and  pl= ans to enter it as a vintage race car.....shooting for next May's Jefferson= 500 at Summit Point.

 

Jim= currently runs a Porsche 944 race car, he is heading to WG this weekend fo= r a DE event there.  He races it in PCA Club Racing as well. From Jim:=

 

=E2=80=9CI'm planning to pull t= he motor in the Fall and start the rebuild (which I'll be doing myself).&nb= sp; I have a guy who will do the roll cage this winter once I strip the cha= ssis down.  And then I'll start piecing the rest together.

 

I'm also looking for any pictur= es of TR7 or TR8 race cars - would like to use them to get ideas for "decor= ating" the car to give it that '70s vintage look.  I've seen the Group= 44 cars, but don't plan to go to that extreme with the fender flares and f= iberglass stuff.

 

Anyway, any info/advice you mig= ht have would be very welcome!=E2=80=9D

 

Can I have a second?

 

Thanks

Paul

 


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[216.51.203.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z15sm4172494igp.12.2015.06.17.16.09.42 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Jun 2015 16:09:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 18:09:41 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net Cc: "joealexandervintage@gmail.com" Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015. DVD now released. triumphdvd.co.uk Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT, If you wish to see a comprehensive preview and trailer of John Clancy's DVD of the Kastner Cup at Summit Point, go to triumphdvd.co.uk and click on "Kastner Cup" icon and scroll. They are available at a special price with distribution in North America. John is shipping to me in bulk and I have volunteered to complete the packaging and will ship to you. NFI. You might also have an interest in John's other DVDs. Please indicate your interest and I will secure those for you, as well. triumphdvd.co.uk Thanks, Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 17 17:56:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5948D2584586 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 17:56:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f179.google.com (mail-ie0-f179.google.com [209.85.223.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2162580048 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 17:56:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iecrd14 with SMTP id rd14so44593731iec.3 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 16:56:20 -0700 (PDT) h=subject:from:content-type:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=hrAdFaWj62j6Sy0cWxAtTzhDFQ85s2RFqdIF5M8nk48=; b=a/eqXf046D7rmor4xKHuIOVyjYqjWOSW4VjZ6jGJlL5fwgCoWJfJWdYJ0wbVRhL4om UrIKat2rLHM1Z0MZv6S5tYn2jBuRYJNl8GNudFKhcnxmF1cM7W9PL4M15KtbZVZutd4d t0rlHMUiRkpg6evEm3XeBW1Ui1P/yVnOA4iTAAybHNRHsatO3r0avo8lrmqh6ZT4fNPS kU9LZG+dGOEwTd26q8Z6SC1nicmtIprTC2TmGSRiJWl0wCytwKPht8d2BgEFd/QGa1WJ EWH+pyPrm6BTQcK3Md1+QTPfN/txsOFn2f3Epr6hH8fVWgoiUWLUoyimY6PjIUhPENrB W44g== Wed, 17 Jun 2015 16:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net. [216.51.203.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i7sm4250604igt.18.2015.06.17.16.56.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Jun 2015 16:56:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 18:56:19 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Sighting I-25 between Pueblo and Colorado Springs. #3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT A member of FOT? Being pulled by Class C motor home headed north. This was last Sunday during a huge back up of interstate traffic due to a very large accident. Regards, Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 17 19:01:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACBE625849F9 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:01:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B9F2580212 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:01:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-16v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.240]) by resqmta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id hczL1q00A5BUCh401d1J3T; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 01:01:18 +0000 Received: from locutus ([50.170.163.20]) by resomta-po-16v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id hd1H1q00U0Sj6Ay01d1J4m; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 01:01:18 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: "'Joe Alexander'" , Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:03:09 -0600 Thread-Index: AdCpWlAd2VWC0SvXRCuFTmv/VWfPfQAB6Q0g s=q20140121; t=1434589278; bh=eo+54pRVDdtTLyQVQKX7kw/kNiXmgz7cW3qUrOtOhhE=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DLhUCba81bEhNW8Uvbb1i8/7wphwIHu8tpQpo1nrtNTpExcML86hqGuHshVCWotju 0d/9kd09l01BhEFbo15DnYJbUGByDOZ3VNO0K83/mtbWcSN4G8mz8FTHFpM3irPXAa EjnPajFTV1LxGStOnxkJX2nVekBw8esPJv0dczfxdd7vukfO7Gm6ruuywH5uH2vM+q FKfpMRjx5Fwtolne8HZUtVvwV7/YjJbff3Ck22KOaFG/KeMrZDbS5XqAv1os2a5ask GHbaPL23KBlcjIbIkw+F90UCxmrJ2lRONWgN4m28TU4WP6PhbdGQErTN1PpPZG0IpO 4y7PmWMZjla1w== Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Sighting I-25 between Pueblo and Colorado Springs. #3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, that was our buddy Bud, # 3 black & silver. We were on our way back from the race. We got rained out in the afternoon races. I was in the same traffic jam. Jim g -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Alexander Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 5:56 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Spitfire Sighting I-25 between Pueblo and Colorado Springs. #3 FOT A member of FOT? Being pulled by Class C motor home headed north. This was last Sunday during a huge back up of interstate traffic due to a very large accident. Regards, Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/toodamnfunky@comcast.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 17 19:31:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22602587C35 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:31:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.168]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE2D25806EE for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:30:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.233]) by resqmta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id hdWh1q00852QWKC01dWn4s; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 01:30:47 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.110] ([71.196.236.31]) by resomta-po-09v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id hdWm1q00T0hKggf01dWnRb; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 01:30:47 +0000 References: <6F7F6DF8-06BC-421C-A63B-3DEF06E338D5@gmail.com> From: Bud Rolofson Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:30:40 -0600 To: Joe Alexander s=q20140121; t=1434591047; bh=27pHSwMlcwnuR35zK6pQctx7AmvqtPOVeSrv8GUwInM=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=ljjoFMfVd4rNi2xlwxkiAGM3ACIXIv9SZbZHz/JnlLfkPYjLdkema+RX84/1bDEs2 0GfRzedfC4p4UZt6e5BCRb3MxPi3VvHOY5PXl4LA5ouQlyPRE8DoPHY2PCi3iZp7E3 UD0/KaFh7Jl96soCgnUad4W4KEMfSb3UVh1JNlea7czlqkclk08Rohfgod/Hy0k0Tn q49cMw1iZjZNEwWcEzbmUZxpOFreWTnWU7qp66QP9DkLPETXeisTfwkbmAKng3KOdd 8YtCxyZILpm7F3X6x/jG6DSpnoI8nN/t3yfyVIkG16Xq8rsKhEssjtw4+nCpgmewDg c40TwtmULKIMg== Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Sighting I-25 between Pueblo and Colorado Springs. #3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net That would be me with the #3 car. We got hailed out of the Sunday PM races by a huge thunderstorm and I was headed home early until a truck laid down 300 yards of hydraulic fluid in 3 lanes in the middle of Colorado Springs. Took an hour to get through that mess with Sunday traffic headed back to Denver. Had great fun racing at Pueblo motor sports track that weekend with Jim Gray and our Triumph crew. Bud Sent from my Commodore 64 > On Jun 17, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: > > FOT > > A member of FOT? Being pulled by Class C motor home headed north. > > This was last Sunday during a huge back up of interstate traffic due to a very large accident. > > Regards, > > Joe Alexander > 645 1st Street > Jesup, IA 50648 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 17 19:38:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E227F2587BE1 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:38:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f175.google.com (mail-ig0-f175.google.com [209.85.213.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E1725806EE for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:38:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by igbiq7 with SMTP id iq7so80826182igb.1 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 18:38:17 -0700 (PDT) h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=zJn5rsFphONceQhIABXEDHp1vIXI0Zi44opCcAzDIE8=; b=Rhn809xjCeFNoImDJzyEAw+zE/x7MX9pF1fbYHyemcNsu+3zpvcZjYUpJ4IQUnbVPB P2GdjmEbLWdL3jFPHAoKEunQYkcDdlNNYLN03k5fbh9ay/LB3us9cup/3MgkCkWzqmgG WORcokCpUNXA3dJUPYN6Yo6pbqo8NJrLdA10/XL4ruQIi+AdGf4nCc5HXCfbCHlu4q+Q sotfwiVjvc37a1TxugZWiQAEXVdiTSRh2KEUU6Fh0Q4g8d4lgFttJ1q0hnooLgjHYUWx 3d+Nxd0pFqmRxA1Ty8v9NCBQN7x54WfXvPxtl5mi7ddsNrjOz72B+gYDcK4f5SZmb32R UzGg== Wed, 17 Jun 2015 18:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net. [216.51.203.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g1sm3845160iog.4.2015.06.17.18.38.16 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Jun 2015 18:38:16 -0700 (PDT) References: <6F7F6DF8-06BC-421C-A63B-3DEF06E338D5@gmail.com> From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 20:38:15 -0500 To: Bud Rolofson Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire Sighting I-25 between Pueblo and Colorado Springs. #3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bud! We were in the Silver Miata with the top down, when you dusted us off in the right hand lane with your motor home and trailer. We got off the next opportunity. I knew it would be somebody familiar. This will be no surprise to Jan. Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 > On Jun 17, 2015, at 8:30 PM, Bud Rolofson wrote: > > That would be me with the #3 car. We got hailed out of the Sunday PM races by a huge thunderstorm and I was headed home early until a truck laid down 300 yards of hydraulic fluid in 3 lanes in the middle of Colorado Springs. Took an hour to get through that mess with Sunday traffic headed back to Denver. > Had great fun racing at Pueblo motor sports track that weekend with Jim Gray and our Triumph crew. > Bud > > Sent from my Commodore 64 > >> On Jun 17, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Joe Alexander wrote: >> >> FOT >> >> A member of FOT? Being pulled by Class C motor home headed north. >> >> This was last Sunday during a huge back up of interstate traffic due to a very large accident. >> >> Regards, >> >> Joe Alexander >> 645 1st Street >> Jesup, IA 50648 >> The-vintage-racer.com >> Gasketinnovations.com >> Cell: 319.464.4711 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >> >> http://www.fot-racing.com >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/levilevi@comcast.net >> >> _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 17 19:57:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195972587ED5 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:57:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB7D62584D68 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:57:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aai01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aai01.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.99]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2C8CA70000096 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:57:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mba06e.mail.aol.com (core-mba06.mail.aol.com [172.27.44.6]) by mtaomg-aai01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0B93538000083 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:57:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 72.84.135.18 by webprd-a12.mail.aol.com (10.72.12.230) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:57:31 -0400 Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 21:57:31 -0400 From: kkjjk@aol.com To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1434592652; bh=XrYD2ps7Xr2SeKzqP4/OThpGushfCuLzRwee9K43UA0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=x9uPvKEkmLD0qUYBfbyN2NUB3GHAwYfuk7HqFwaJnApdQgDNCLE7hID4zLckZ6GW9 J7gXnz5iGuiJfpcF5uyH3chBNVFN6MGMxWyPTzCaTWV00jq8kPcZIhbxNXivUhOLsS lSThV+EqPs9qrB0b53I0EbGpr6FJgbc2rPg1etZM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b02635582258c63b2 Subject: [Fot] new member Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8353635016674343963== boundary="----=_Part_2410_1183668689.1434592651501" ------=_Part_2410_1183668689.1434592651501 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, all- I would like to nominate my son, Jeffrey De Pol, as a member of FOT. He was my crew man in my rookie session at the Jefferson 500, and I could not have done it without him (and the many fine people whom helped us out with advice and support). He is a great "kid" (26), mostly self taught, and most importantly of all is crazy enough to own several Triumphs in various states of confusion. Thanks for your consideration.-- Jay De Pol (#84 GT6). ------=_Part_2410_1183668689.1434592651501 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, all-  I would like to nominate my son, Jeffrey De Pol, as a member of FOT.  He was my crew man in my rookie session at the Jefferson 500, and I could not have done it without him (and the many fine people whom helped us out with advice and support).  He is a great "kid" (26), mostly self taught, and most importantly of all is crazy enough to own several Triumphs in various states of confusion.  Thanks for your consideration.-- Jay De Pol (#84 GT6). ------=_Part_2410_1183668689.1434592651501-- --===============8353635016674343963== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8353635016674343963==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 17 20:24:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63C02588193 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 20:24:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p14im-asmtp001.me.com (nk11p14im-asmtp001.me.com [17.158.72.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B802587C15 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 20:24:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.196.123.169] (mobile-166-171-056-139.mycingular.net [166.171.56.139]) by nk11p14im-asmtp001.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.35.0 64bit (built Mar 31 2015)) with ESMTPSA id <0NQ400FXZC12OR10@nk11p14im-asmtp001.me.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 02:24:41 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.14.151,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-06-18_01:2015-06-16,2015-06-18,1970-01-01 signatures=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1412110000 definitions=main-1506180040 From: Scott Janzen Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 22:24:39 -0400 References: <14e0462a8f0-6d10-84b@webprd-a12.mail.aol.com> To: "kkjjk@aol.com" Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] new member Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5498082562535362284== boundary=Apple-Mail-A7C4CBCB-4BBA-4A9F-B6EA-A63370DA6B96 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-A7C4CBCB-4BBA-4A9F-B6EA-A63370DA6B96 charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Second! Another GT6 guy! Sent from my mobile device=20 On Jun 17, 2015, at 9:57 PM, kkjjk@aol.com wrote: Hi, all- I would like to nominate my son, Jeffrey De Pol, as a member of FO= T. He was my crew man in my rookie session at the Jefferson 500, and I coul= d not have done it without him (and the many fine people whom helped us out w= ith advice and support). He is a great "kid" (26), mostly self taught, and m= ost importantly of all is crazy enough to own several Triumphs in various st= ates of confusion. Thanks for your consideration.-- Jay De Pol (#84 GT6). _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --Apple-Mail-A7C4CBCB-4BBA-4A9F-B6EA-A63370DA6B96 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Second! Another GT6 guy!

Sent f= rom my mobile device 

On Jun 17, 2015, at 9:57 PM, kkjjk@aol.com wrote:

Hi, all-  I would like to nominate my son, Jeffrey De Pol, as a= member of FOT.  He was my crew man in my rookie session at the Jeffers= on 500, and I could not have done it without him (and the many fine people w= hom helped us out with advice and support).  He is a great "kid" (26), m= ostly self taught, and most importantly of all is crazy enough to own severa= l Triumphs in various states of confusion.  Thanks for your considerati= on.-- Jay De Pol (#84 GT6).
= --Apple-Mail-A7C4CBCB-4BBA-4A9F-B6EA-A63370DA6B96-- --===============5498082562535362284== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5498082562535362284==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 17 20:42:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8953C2584954 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 20:42:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S1.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s1.hotmail.com [65.55.111.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0172425809B4 for ; Wed, 17 Jun 2015 20:42:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU173-W23 ([65.55.111.71]) by BLU004-OMC2S1.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Wed, 17 Jun 2015 19:42:09 -0700 From: Henry Morrison To: fot Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 20:42:09 -0600 Importance: Normal FILETIME=[5F6C78C0:01D0A970] Subject: [Fot] Looking for a good stock set of front springs for a TR250 Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============9112188126010275795== boundary="_845aadb0-1cca-401d-8e98-0a3182d48165_" --_845aadb0-1cca-401d-8e98-0a3182d48165_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mine are too low and I worry my redlines are going to take out the front wi= ngs. =20 Cheers=2C Henry Morrison =20 Albuquerque=2C NM=20 = --_845aadb0-1cca-401d-8e98-0a3182d48165_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mine are too low and I worry my = redlines are going to take out the front wings.
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Cheers=2C He= nry Morrison
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Albuquerque=2C NM =3B
= = --_845aadb0-1cca-401d-8e98-0a3182d48165_-- --===============9112188126010275795== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============9112188126010275795==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 18 12:15:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D58C2588AD7 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:15:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C21A325845DF for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:08:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-14v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.238]) by resqmta-po-04v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id hu831q00J58ss0Y01u8pri; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 18:08:49 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.5] ([71.196.236.31]) by resomta-po-14v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id hu8o1q00P0hKggf01u8o3b; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 18:08:49 +0000 From: Bud R Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:08:48 -0600 To: FOT s=q20140121; t=1434650929; bh=VkCnaLacn2T3ibbJyAdrnJdtKTrma3o3126IOvkltMo=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Date:Subject:To:Message-Id: Mime-Version; b=YBKRg5MhWbnCuaCRxGC/wEURf2bK0CE/6FPInZR3rM5Vh6GAXzVJ0zFgrGBsV9bWf qoktBL9LfZOnEaeqG+rk1ngLn7o8CRYvrquTb30sr7BRf8TETtfM+OYd5mm1kobSZ6 +2Ija2AGEMyNfNxEtpXNHQDyOzpYvXtPE90FadaipzyqCoNqGHr/LCACzFhpYFJ/gM Oxxj48bP1bhzxpAd2Snk8oxd/3wgFSg8FkbGuCg6ihhG5AcZHDgi/p4M0CH3CQdd1F RhbFCrRxfx75dPqLiWWn4pVEjidYwp7YBn0b2sUpnsZ6xXj25HJuvQ9IY/MAhsnbrr KYhoLpoSTMivQ== Subject: [Fot] Differential gear oil? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6943013749216356832== --Apple-Mail=_C86A8051-40E9-41E4-BDB7-D0BE5E69C48B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=windows-1252 So Redline shock proof =93light=94 gear oil is what I=92m leaning to use = in the refurbished diff I=92m putting in the race car. What do others use? Thanks Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle=20 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) --Apple-Mail=_C86A8051-40E9-41E4-BDB7-D0BE5E69C48B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=windows-1252 So = Redline shock proof =93light=94 gear oil is what I=92m leaning to use in = the refurbished diff I=92m putting in the race = car.

What do others = use?

Thanks
Bud Rolofson

Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)

71TR6 CC57365 (Good = 6)
71 Spitfire MK IV = Race Car #3
69 Spitfire MK III = (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 
77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda = Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)












= --Apple-Mail=_C86A8051-40E9-41E4-BDB7-D0BE5E69C48B-- --===============6943013749216356832== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6943013749216356832==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 18 12:45:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6C032584819 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:45:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC1S8.hotmail.com (blu004-omc1s8.hotmail.com [65.55.116.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40A925845DF for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:45:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU436-SMTP162 ([65.55.116.8]) by BLU004-OMC1S8.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:45:25 -0700 From: Vangoughv Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:45:17 -0400 References: <4C5CA38C-441E-4673-85ED-2B793DD18A6A@comcast.net> To: Bud R FILETIME=[EF0F2320:01D0A9F6] Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Differential gear oil? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1876110876040490654== boundary="Apple-Mail-5D41248A-5A76-4A1B-9986-4E8D5D092222" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-5D41248A-5A76-4A1B-9986-4E8D5D092222 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use standard #90 gear oil as per original mfr spec Vince > On Jun 18, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Bud R wrote: >=20 > So Redline shock proof =E2=80=9Clight=E2=80=9D gear oil is what I=E2=80=99= m leaning to use in the refurbished diff I=E2=80=99m putting in the race car= . >=20 > What do others use? >=20 > Thanks > Bud Rolofson >=20 > Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) >=20 > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) > 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle=20 > 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/vangoughv@ho= tmail.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-5D41248A-5A76-4A1B-9986-4E8D5D092222 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I use standard #90 gear oil as per ori= ginal mfr spec

Vince
So Redline shock proof =E2= =80=9Clight=E2=80=9D gear oil is what I=E2=80=99m leaning to use in the refu= rbished diff I=E2=80=99m putting in the race car.

What do= others use?

Thanks
B= ud Rolofson

Extreme Parts Racing (more than j= ust a haircut)

71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
7= 1 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine= /dinghy car)
93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 


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= --Apple-Mail-5D41248A-5A76-4A1B-9986-4E8D5D092222-- --===============1876110876040490654== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1876110876040490654==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 18 12:49:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4AB5258823E for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:49:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f176.google.com (mail-ie0-f176.google.com [209.85.223.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A462584B9A for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:49:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iecrd14 with SMTP id rd14so60824535iec.3 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:49:44 -0700 (PDT) h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=hutJgE6yPlUwwIrYCO7eW1jXpLTIDGvKkmfWOO9VN0s=; b=uWYpUx8Uhh8BES3+hYjlOO+oJJhfRzpuJojbv7MmJAQdiU9TtCmoWdEwpmRrgEO+7W fkkTrR+wPwRyeGZW1aqF/IbjGTFuGGTfvsyXh6xUHvKHb3VQgHgVNFqrkwDOjBkDJqiL jDwkM8k1Lt36lKlfaYPaEKIHuS6H927jrDn2UgBvZ/JLt8Q/xipXo3ce3DxFvvzedt63 c0pbXgmX3j/WmmS/kooetjXzB3jflFzN0bEHxaSgqRBU0qNG+j06ap2FTQGGG9NSFr88 W56dKCFCHm4wYW4s1TAbZwfistPmdy22FHAMMNUwruc8BzaqkiW/yJU+nmj12VvRRX6n XEuw== Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [22.193.40.244] ([66.87.76.244]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b15sm76240igm.12.2015.06.18.11.49.44 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 18 Jun 2015 11:49:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Aaron Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:49:43 -0400 References: <4C5CA38C-441E-4673-85ED-2B793DD18A6A@comcast.net> To: Bud R Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Differential gear oil? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============9113807624954986124== boundary=Apple-Mail-0398C089-A209-41F3-879A-FD70B94B0012 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-0398C089-A209-41F3-879A-FD70B94B0012 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use the heavy shock proof in the spitfire I've had diff failures but none= attributed to the oil in use. =20 Aaron Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 18, 2015, at 14:08, Bud R wrote: >=20 > So Redline shock proof =E2=80=9Clight=E2=80=9D gear oil is what I=E2=80=99= m leaning to use in the refurbished diff I=E2=80=99m putting in the race car= . >=20 > What do others use? >=20 > Thanks > Bud Rolofson >=20 > Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) >=20 > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) > 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle=20 > 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/hpspitfire@g= mail.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-0398C089-A209-41F3-879A-FD70B94B0012 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I use the heavy shock proof in the spi= tfire  I've had diff failures but none attributed to the oil in use. &n= bsp;

Aaron

Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 18, 2015, at 14:08, Bud R <levilevi@comcast.net> wrote:

So Redline shock proof =E2=80=9Clight=E2=80=9D gear oil is what I=E2= =80=99m leaning to use in the refurbished diff I=E2=80=99m putting in the ra= ce car.

What do others use?

Than= ks
Bud Rolofson

Extre= me Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)

71T= R6 CC57365 (Good 6)
71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
69 Sp= itfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
93 Minnie Winnie Rac= e Support Vehicle 
77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail= Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)












= --Apple-Mail-0398C089-A209-41F3-879A-FD70B94B0012-- --===============9113807624954986124== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============9113807624954986124==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 18 13:04:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E5F22588BCA for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:04:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC1S30.hotmail.com (blu004-omc1s30.hotmail.com [65.55.116.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D57A42580489 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:04:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W96 ([65.55.116.8]) by BLU004-OMC1S30.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:04:23 -0700 From: marty To: Bud Rolofson , FOT Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 15:04:23 -0400 Importance: Normal References: <4C5CA38C-441E-4673-85ED-2B793DD18A6A@comcast.net> FILETIME=[96EB0580:01D0A9F9] Subject: Re: [Fot] Differential gear oil? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2384329483050252877== boundary="_2e2ca989-7be1-440f-a9fd-ec381e1fc60a_" --_2e2ca989-7be1-440f-a9fd-ec381e1fc60a_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yup=2C I figgured we were about due for a fluif thread. Right Joe? :) =20 Marty =20 From: levilevi@comcast.net Date: Thu=2C 18 Jun 2015 12:08:48 -0600 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Differential gear oil? So Redline shock proof =93light=94 gear oil is what I=92m leaning to use in= the refurbished diff I=92m putting in the race car. What do others use? Thanks Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle=20 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://w= ww.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://w= ww.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com = --_2e2ca989-7be1-440f-a9fd-ec381e1fc60a_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yup=2C I figgured we were about = due for a fluif thread. Right Joe? =3B :)
 =3B
Marty
 =3B
From: levilevi@comcast.net
Date: Thu=2C 18 Jun 2015 12:08:48 -0600
To= : fot@autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Differential gear oil?

So Red= line shock proof =93light=94 gear oil is what I=92m leaning to use in the r= efurbished diff I=92m putting in the race car.

What do others use?

Thanks
Bud Rolofson

Extreme Parts Racing =3B(more than just a haircut)

71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle =3B
77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)


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Any thoughts on Redline MT-90 75W90 GL= -4 Gear Oil?

Brad Eells
Sent from my iPhone

O= n Jun 18, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Bud R <levilevi@comcast.net> wrote:

So Redline shock proof =E2=80=9Clight=E2=80=9D gear oil is what I=E2= =80=99m leaning to use in the refurbished diff I=E2=80=99m putting in the ra= ce car.

What do others use?

Than= ks
Bud Rolofson

Extre= me Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)

71T= R6 CC57365 (Good 6)
71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
69 Sp= itfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
93 Minnie Winnie Rac= e Support Vehicle 
77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail= Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)












= --Apple-Mail-E5A92495-3238-474E-9F66-C244FC9D99C2-- --===============5817090431884301223== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5817090431884301223==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 18 13:16:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 139A4258837F for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:16:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (fed1rmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8520425844E6 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:12:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo210 ([68.230.241.161]) by fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20150618191247.WBXG6320.fed1rmfepo103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo210> for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 15:12:47 -0400 Received: from Bedroom ([70.176.189.205]) by fed1rmimpo210 with cox id hvCm1q00T4SLNRA01vCmr7; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 15:12:46 -0400 a=uetZiEMWpZhrLyW6kl3xSA==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=v2KNO6lEd1oIuOOzsYgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=3IWTN2IwCnqef3KZJG8A:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=cmnI7cWA60Tm4ay3:21 a=uetZiEMWpZhrLyW6kl3xSA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'marty'" , "'Bud Rolofson'" , "'FOT'" References: <4C5CA38C-441E-4673-85ED-2B793DD18A6A@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:13:02 -0700 Thread-Index: AdCp+acmqGJe/3fPQGy6cdJZEv9d8wAAR0Dg Subject: Re: [Fot] Differential gear oil? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============8946005735407456577== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004B_01D0A9C0.1FEF3610" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01D0A9C0.1FEF3610 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Indeed! _____ From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of marty Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 12:04 PM To: Bud Rolofson; FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Differential gear oil? Yup, I figgured we were about due for a fluif thread. Right Joe? :) Marty _____ From: levilevi@comcast.net Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:08:48 -0600 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Differential gear oil? So Redline shock proof "light" gear oil is what I'm leaning to use in the refurbished diff I'm putting in the race car. What do others use? Thanks Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hotmail.com ------=_NextPart_000_004B_01D0A9C0.1FEF3610 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Indeed!

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From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of marty
Sent: Thursday, June 18, = 2015 12:04 PM
To: Bud Rolofson; FOT
Subject: Re: [Fot] = Differential gear oil?

 

Yup, I figgured we were about due for a fluif = thread. Right Joe?  :)
 
Marty
 

From: levilevi@comcast.net
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:08:48 -0600
To: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Differential gear oil?

So Redline shock proof “light” gear oil is what I’m = leaning to use in the refurbished diff I’m putting in the race car. =

 

What do others use?

 

Thanks

Bud = Rolofson

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Extreme = Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)

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71TR6 = CC57365 (Good 6)

71 Spitfire = MK IV Race Car #3

69 Spitfire = MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)

93 Minnie = Winnie Race Support Vehicle 

77 Z-50A = Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit = Bike)

 

 

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------=_NextPart_000_004B_01D0A9C0.1FEF3610-- --===============8946005735407456577== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8946005735407456577==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 18 13:18:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4EE2588C1A for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:18:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from isis.mit.edu (isis.mit.edu [18.142.2.157]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C9E258516C for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:18:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ISIS.MIT.EDU (ISIS.MIT.EDU [18.142.2.157]) by isis.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id t5IJIC98029790; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 15:18:12 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 15:18:12 -0400 (EDT) From: "Robert M. Lang" To: Brad Eells References: <4C5CA38C-441E-4673-85ED-2B793DD18A6A@comcast.net> <2460A762-CDF1-4A3F-928A-7FBAE13FB85B@gmail.com> Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Differential gear oil? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net On Thu, 18 Jun 2015, Brad Eells wrote: > Any thoughts on Redline MT-90 75W90 GL-4 Gear Oil? I use this on all my TR6's in the diff., and MTL in the 4-speed trannies. GOOD STUFF. > Brad Eells > Sent from my iPhone regards, rml --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent Former NER Solo Chair | Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 18 13:30:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1881A258825A for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:30:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC4S3.hotmail.com (blu004-omc4s3.hotmail.com [65.55.111.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F7F25845DF for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:25:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W78 ([65.55.111.135]) by BLU004-OMC4S3.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:25:15 -0700 From: marty To: Bob Lang , Brad Eells Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 15:25:13 -0400 Importance: Normal References: <4C5CA38C-441E-4673-85ED-2B793DD18A6A@comcast.net>, <2460A762-CDF1-4A3F-928A-7FBAE13FB85B@gmail.com>, FILETIME=[80F35DB0:01D0A9FC] Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Differential gear oil? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6544939681838287713== boundary="_bbd19454-6b36-405c-b1c7-a7278ebdb9d0_" --_bbd19454-6b36-405c-b1c7-a7278ebdb9d0_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting. Years ago=2C like probably 20. I had a phone conversation with= the tech folks at Redline and they told me to use the MT-90 in the Triumph= transmissions=2C NOT the MTL. I guess they both work. =20 Marty =20 > Date: Thu=2C 18 Jun 2015 15:18:12 -0400 > From: lang@isis.mit.edu > To: tr4abrad@gmail.com > CC: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Fot] Differential gear oil? >=20 > On Thu=2C 18 Jun 2015=2C Brad Eells wrote: >=20 > > Any thoughts on Redline MT-90 75W90 GL-4 Gear Oil? >=20 > I use this on all my TR6's in the diff.=2C and MTL in the 4-speed trannie= s. >=20 > GOOD STUFF. >=20 > > Brad Eells > > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > regards=2C > rml > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > Bob Lang Triumph TR6!! | This space for rent > Former NER Solo Chair | > Voice:617-253-7438 | Cell: 339-927-4489 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/trmarty@hot= mail.com >=20 >=20 = --_bbd19454-6b36-405c-b1c7-a7278ebdb9d0_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Interesting. Years ago=2C like p= robably 20. I had a phone conversation with the tech folks at Redline and t= hey told me to use the MT-90 in the Triumph transmissions=2C NOT the MTL.&n= bsp=3B I guess they both work.
 =3B
Marty

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>=3B Date: Thu=2C 18 Jun 2015 15:18:12 -0400
>=3B From: lang@is= is.mit.edu
>=3B To: tr4abrad@gmail.com
>=3B CC: fot@autox.team.ne= t
>=3B Subject: Re: [Fot] Differential gear oil?
>=3B
>=3B = On Thu=2C 18 Jun 2015=2C Brad Eells wrote:
>=3B
>=3B >=3B Any = thoughts on Redline MT-90 75W90 GL-4 Gear Oil?
>=3B
>=3B I use t= his on all my TR6's in the diff.=2C and MTL in the 4-speed trannies.
>= =3B
>=3B GOOD STUFF.
>=3B
>=3B >=3B Brad Eells
>=3B= >=3B Sent from my iPhone
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>=3B regards=2C
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= --_bbd19454-6b36-405c-b1c7-a7278ebdb9d0_-- --===============6544939681838287713== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6544939681838287713==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 18 14:31:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EE82588486 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:31:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE342580024 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 14:26:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.248.153.253] ([172.248.153.253:2697] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 17/CE-23060-98923855; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:26:50 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: "'FOT'" Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 13:26:56 -0700 Thread-Index: AdCp/U+JmCl9NDsSTkeeK0BEo+j/XQAB35rg Subject: Re: [Fot] Differential gear oil? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > Interesting. Years ago, like probably 20. I had a phone > conversation with the tech folks at Redline and they told me > to use the MT-90 in the Triumph transmissions, NOT the MTL. Perhaps their attitude changed over the years then. More like 10 years ago, they told me that MTL would be fine with no OD; but the OD would probably want the heavier oil. As I recall, he said the viscosity was the only difference between MTL and MT-90. But neither one is recommended for differentials. Randall _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 18 19:47:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7DD32584E45 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:47:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA712580428 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 19:41:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [65.25.182.78] ([65.25.182.78:32821] helo=[192.168.100.99]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id B8/78-25733-E4373855; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 01:41:35 +0000 From: Allen Washatko To: Randall Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:41:34 -0500 References: <17.CE.23060.98923855@cdptpa-oedge03> Cc: 'FOT' Subject: Re: [Fot] Differential gear oil? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I use the MT- 90 in the TR6 transmission and the 75W90 High Performance Gear oil in the diff. The MTL is a 70W80 grade oil and doesn't match the original specs. for a 90WT oil. Allen On Jun 18, 2015, at 3:26 PM, Randall wrote: > >> Interesting. Years ago, like probably 20. I had a phone >> conversation with the tech folks at Redline and they told me >> to use the MT-90 in the Triumph transmissions, NOT the MTL. > > Perhaps their attitude changed over the years then. More like 10 > years ago, they told me that MTL would be fine with no OD; but the > OD would probably want the heavier oil. As I recall, he said the > viscosity was the only difference between MTL and MT-90. > > But neither one is recommended for differentials. > > Randall > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/awashatko@wi.rr.com > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 18 20:22:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784A72584DBE for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:22:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D212584539 for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 20:22:26 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge02 smtp.user=ablake2@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [107.92.56.118] ([107.92.56.118:21341] helo=[10.192.35.32]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 56/90-25733-AEC73855; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 02:22:36 +0000 References: <4C5CA38C-441E-4673-85ED-2B793DD18A6A@comcast.net> From: Greg And Alison Blake Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 21:22:30 -0500 To: Bud R Cc: FOT Subject: Re: [Fot] Differential gear oil? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8247596682184139444== boundary=Apple-Mail-CBE94231-FC4C-4674-86FB-1860DBCAE937 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-CBE94231-FC4C-4674-86FB-1860DBCAE937 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I use the Costal GL4 from NAPA and change it every 2 race weekends in the TR= 3. This is a welded diff so not as much heat as an open diff or one of those= fancy limited slips. Works great and about $30/gal.=20 I tried using this in the WRL endurance TR6 last month. In hour 6, we boiled= the fluid right out of the diff and melted the poly mounts. This was a stoc= k open diff. Most of the endurance racers I spoke to said that they use full= synthetic in their endurance diffs due to the prolonged heat.=20 I will continue using Costal in the 3, but will only use full synthetic from= now on for endurance events. We lost about 3 of seat time due to that fail= ure. Well worth the extra cost of synthetic. Not to mention all those bearin= gs and damn side seals that have to be replaced now. What a pain. =20 Greg > On Jun 18, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Bud R wrote: >=20 > So Redline shock proof =E2=80=9Clight=E2=80=9D gear oil is what I=E2=80=99= m leaning to use in the refurbished diff I=E2=80=99m putting in the race car= . >=20 > What do others use? >=20 > Thanks > Bud Rolofson >=20 > Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) >=20 > 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) > 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 > 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) > 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle=20 > 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@aust= in.rr.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-CBE94231-FC4C-4674-86FB-1860DBCAE937 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I use the Costal GL4 from NAPA and cha= nge it every 2 race weekends in the TR3. This is a welded diff so not as muc= h heat as an open diff or one of those fancy limited slips. Works great and a= bout $30/gal. 

I tried using this in the WRL e= ndurance TR6 last month. In hour 6, we boiled the fluid right out of the dif= f and melted the poly mounts. This was a stock open diff. Most of the endura= nce racers I spoke to said that they use full synthetic in their endurance d= iffs due to the prolonged heat. 

I will contin= ue using Costal in the 3, but will only use full synthetic from now on for e= ndurance events.  We lost about 3 of seat time due to that failure. Wel= l worth the extra cost of synthetic. Not to mention all those bearings and d= amn side seals that have to be replaced now. What a pain.  
<= br>
Greg





On Ju= n 18, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Bud R <le= vilevi@comcast.net> wrote:

So Redline shock proof =E2=80=9Clight=E2=80=9D gear oil is what I=E2=80= =99m leaning to use in the refurbished diff I=E2=80=99m putting in the race c= ar.

What do others use?

Thanks
Bud Rolofson

Extre= me Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)

71T= R6 CC57365 (Good 6)
71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
69 Sp= itfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
93 Minnie Winnie Rac= e Support Vehicle 
77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail= Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)












= --Apple-Mail-CBE94231-FC4C-4674-86FB-1860DBCAE937-- --===============8247596682184139444== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8247596682184139444==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 19 09:58:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A4D2258850C for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:58:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from xavier.telenet-ops.be (xavier.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0B6258837C for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 09:58:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([IPv6:2a02:1812:d1c:7a00:d57:d520:526f:b0f8]) by xavier.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id iFyS1q00C3ohQGF01FyXzJ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:58:31 +0200 From: "Marcel Van Mulders" To: "'Greg And Alison Blake'" References: <4C5CA38C-441E-4673-85ED-2B793DD18A6A@comcast.net> <6017FDEF-4CE5-42F5-966F-0D2B04EF9D87@austin.rr.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 17:58:21 +0200 Thread-Index: AdCqNtkJ17wTe3/VSSCyjTdUM20xawAb01Ag Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Differential gear oil? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0039585136126879539== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01D0AAB9.880D5070" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01D0AAB9.880D5070 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The content of E(xtreme)P(ressure) additives is designated by the GL specification and GL4 is stong enough for gearboxes, but normally not for hypoid rear axle gears. GL5 is necessary , especially in racing. Synthetic gear oil is much better in resisting to the shear forces (sliding action) of hypoid gears. High viscosity is only necessary for the oil to stick onto the gears. At least this is what I've heard and it seems to make sense. Marcel _____ Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Greg And Alison Blake Verzonden: vrijdag 19 juni 2015 4:22 Aan: Bud R CC: FOT Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Differential gear oil? I use the Costal GL4 from NAPA and change it every 2 race weekends in the TR3. This is a welded diff so not as much heat as an open diff or one of those fancy limited slips. Works great and about $30/gal. I tried using this in the WRL endurance TR6 last month. In hour 6, we boiled the fluid right out of the diff and melted the poly mounts. This was a stock open diff. Most of the endurance racers I spoke to said that they use full synthetic in their endurance diffs due to the prolonged heat. I will continue using Costal in the 3, but will only use full synthetic from now on for endurance events. We lost about 3 of seat time due to that failure. Well worth the extra cost of synthetic. Not to mention all those bearings and damn side seals that have to be replaced now. What a pain. Greg On Jun 18, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Bud R wrote: So Redline shock proof "light" gear oil is what I'm leaning to use in the refurbished diff I'm putting in the race car. What do others use? Thanks Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/ablake2@austin.rr.com ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01D0AAB9.880D5070 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The content of E(xtreme)P(ressure) additives = is=20 designated by the GL specification and GL4 is stong enough for = gearboxes,=20 but normally not for hypoid rear axle gears. GL5 is necessary ,=20 especially in racing. Synthetic gear oil is much better in = resisting to the=20 shear forces (sliding action) of hypoid gears.
High viscosity is only necessary for the oil to stick = onto the=20 gears. At least this is what I've heard and it seems to make=20 sense.
Marcel
Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] = Namens=20 Greg And Alison Blake
Verzonden: vrijdag 19 juni 2015=20 4:22
Aan: Bud R
CC: FOT
Onderwerp: Re: = [Fot]=20 Differential gear oil?

I use the Costal GL4 from NAPA and change it every 2 race weekends = in the=20 TR3. This is a welded diff so not as much heat as an open diff or one of = those=20 fancy limited slips. Works great and about $30/gal. 

I tried using this in the WRL endurance TR6 last month. In hour 6, = we=20 boiled the fluid right out of the diff and melted the poly mounts. This = was a=20 stock open diff. Most of the endurance racers I spoke to said that they = use full=20 synthetic in their endurance diffs due to the prolonged = heat. 

I will continue using Costal in the 3, but will only use full = synthetic=20 from now on for endurance events.  We lost about 3 of seat time due = to that=20 failure. Well worth the extra cost of synthetic. Not to mention all = those=20 bearings and damn side seals that have to be replaced now. What a pain.=20  

Greg





On Jun 18, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Bud R <levilevi@comcast.net>=20 wrote:

So Redline shock proof “light” gear oil is what = I’m leaning to use in the=20 refurbished diff I’m putting in the race car.

What do others use?

Thanks
Bud=20 Rolofson

Extreme=20 Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)

71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
71=20 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69=20 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93=20 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle  77=20 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit = Bike)


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------=_NextPart_000_0003_01D0AAB9.880D5070-- --===============0039585136126879539== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0039585136126879539==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 19 10:25:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C85E258877D for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 10:25:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp650.redcondor.net (smtp650.redcondor.net [208.80.206.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF1B2585217 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 10:24:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cgp.netins.net ([167.142.228.191]) by smtp650.redcondor.net ({9ef01f99-b982-4add-83fd-b7c41c74273c}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20150619162506750_0650 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:25:06 +0000 Received: from [208.126.78.151] (account riverside@southslope.net HELO rileyPC) by southslope.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.2) with ESMTPA id 946742332 for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 11:24:43 -0500 From: To: "FOT" Date: Fri, 19 Jun 2015 11:24:29 -0500 Importance: Normal Subject: [Fot] Old TR3 racer Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============6593873516535019432== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01D0AA82.81DC8E50" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01D0AA82.81DC8E50 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The August 2015 issue of Hemmings Sport and Exotic arrived=20 and page 56 caught my eye. Pictured at Daytona in =E2=80=9869 was my old friend long passed Bill Boemler in his famous =E2=80=9CFlying Bedstead=E2=80=9D TR3. Bill was my instructor at my last driving = school and mentor thereafter. Bill was a very fast presence and Midamerica Raceway at Wentzville and other Midwest Div tracks. I have not seen any other pics of him over the years in any publication. =20 art de armond ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01D0AA82.81DC8E50 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The August 2015 issue of Hemmings Sport and Exotic arrived
and  page 56 caught my eye.   Pictured at Daytona in = =E2=80=9869=20 was
my old friend long passed Bill Boemler  in his famous = =E2=80=9CFlying
Bedstead=E2=80=9D  TR3.   Bill was my instructor at = my last driving=20 school
and mentor thereafter.  Bill was a very fast presence = and
Midamerica Raceway at Wentzville and other Midwest Div
tracks.   I have not seen any other pics of him over the=20 years
in any publication.  
 
art de armond
------=_NextPart_000_0016_01D0AA82.81DC8E50-- --===============6593873516535019432== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6593873516535019432==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 19 16:57:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 510AF2584978 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:57:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f180.google.com (mail-ob0-f180.google.com [209.85.214.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424152584705 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 16:50:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by obpn3 with SMTP id n3so337593obp.0 for ; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 15:50:42 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=Jx3XqLeiuD2O7ky+MKyCsGnRBz62tnnHUbm2aQ+jvKY=; b=DOIKhKqPdSH+b+yV6QZxJl9l/qiqlC8CKdi7Bo+6whl0OGjifatic02ZNoaQJ/W7dN A7mWFRJevtC8yf3IVnINRFV9gEmeGnEFQK7MF0F97/YvCX15fZkzuCatEdAcF/5FpvL1 xrlnh5NdrFeDMlKHgbtI2PLwR0IWlmhYAg10INF+SHSf4ySrZoMthnzeNsYhxt9Uq/FT NMqSvFvGJOdzoEP6KZ5JqWPYUXPDd4ryLkmY4W0c0N8A4XTLRjFkGD+jHkfaLdUIN67k pNUmcm4gOQhOSO8DhT+CAHJvkzx8Dg9NMcamCPkat1L7zPK07kja32t7KBou9PZzCpqc NN5w== Fri, 19 Jun 2015 15:50:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.87.212 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Jun 2015 15:50:21 -0700 (PDT) From: "Enquiries Road & Track" Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 08:50:21 +1000 To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Differential gear oil? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7684051852141891180== --001a11403caef13cd00518e6c084 The diff and gearbox oils are definitely different if you want either/both to last as they should On our race Triumphs we normally use 85-140 diff oil . This used to be called EP85-140 (EP for extreme pressure), but nowdays they drop the EP and just say GL5. All the big brands have this grade, as its commonly used in light commercial vehicles. The brass syncro gearboxes cannot handle most GL5 rated oils for long. Sulphur compounds in the additive package erodes the brass materials. There are endless articles floating around about this, and i can support it from decades of experience overhauling gearboxes. GL4 oils dont have the same additive package and are just fine. Pick a brand you like. Some suppliers, like Redline, make special note of this on their spec sheets. Under no circumstance use Redline Shockprooof Green.. you will have zero syncros withing 12 months Terry O"Beirne --001a11403caef13cd00518e6c084 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The diff and gearbox oils are definitely different if you = want either/both to last as they should

On our race= Triumphs we normally use 85-140 diff oil . This used to be called EP85-140= (EP for extreme pressure), but nowdays they drop the EP and just say GL5. = All the big brands have this grade, as its commonly used in light commercia= l vehicles.

The brass syncro gearboxes cannot hand= le most GL5 rated oils for long. Sulphur compounds in the additive package = erodes the brass materials. There are endless articles floating around abou= t this, and i can support it from decades of experience overhauling gearbox= es. GL4 oils dont have the same additive package and are just fine. Pick a = brand you like. Some suppliers, like Redline, make special note of this on = their spec sheets. Under no circumstance use Redline Shockprooof Green.. yo= u will have zero syncros withing 12 months

Terry O= "Beirne

--001a11403caef13cd00518e6c084-- --===============7684051852141891180== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============7684051852141891180==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 21 12:32:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A40F2585D35 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 12:32:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CEE6258591A for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 12:32:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com [172.26.50.176]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 74B22700000A0 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:32:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-aba03h.mail.aol.com (core-aba03.mail.aol.com [172.27.22.3]) by mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5712D38000085 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:32:36 -0400 (EDT) From: KENMUN@aol.com Full-name: KENMUN Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:32:36 -0400 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1434911556; bh=UDGftkywmiRzVGVs7Eq4Mp0+FRjC3UGSlCe6x6XjqLA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=O3jsLfSaDAHk3FbssJomMibTswNvFG69QahRemHugyNKZSZRGb+akyjr+Bk70a8lr ZDHJZ6rFT0h4V6ZSTdiTWTZJU/GlhY9UCSwKVAHuwYis/Y6GkG6yspZH4HWFB9p7Vq ZYKnMpCNnOPEKHuHRxP2sfkicUFPxE0bTg0Ksfek= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a32b0558703443a18 Subject: [Fot] tr3 clutch stuck Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3521848468974923811== --part1_d945c.57b3fee5.42b85d44_boundary Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit my tr3 race car has been sitting for a while. when i started it, it wouldn't shift into gear. the clutch seems stuck to the flywheel. the slave cyl. piston is moving. any ideas? thanks ken m. --part1_d945c.57b3fee5.42b85d44_boundary Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
my tr3 race car has been sitting for a while. when i started it, it= =20 wouldn't shift into gear. the clutch seems stuck to the flywheel. the slav= e cyl.=20 piston is moving. any ideas? thanks ken m.
 --part1_d945c.57b3fee5.42b85d44_boundary-- --===============3521848468974923811== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3521848468974923811==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 21 13:31:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C90A258510E for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 13:31:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45B4025849E1 for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 13:28:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SohlPC (ool-4350f739.dyn.optonline.net [67.80.247.57]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with SMTP id <0NQB00GQ97FRUA50@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 15:28:40 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 15:29:01 -0400 From: Bill Sohl To: KENMUN@aol.com, fot@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Fot] tr3 clutch stuck Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1645569474896931346== boundary="Boundary_(ID_iZnApgfU/REFnVNBjQoGGA)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_iZnApgfU/REFnVNBjQoGGA) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT One way that has worked for me is: Jack up the car so the rear wheels can rotate. Run the engine in gear and with your foot on the brake and the other foot on the clutch, hit the b raake ffirmly and it may then pop off. Bill Sohl, been there - done that ----- Original Message ----- From: KENMUN@aol.com To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 2:32 PM Subject: [Fot] tr3 clutch stuck my tr3 race car has been sitting for a while. when i started it, it wouldn't shift into gear. the clutch seems stuck to the flywheel. the slave cyl. piston is moving. any ideas? thanks ken m. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billsohl@optonline.net --Boundary_(ID_iZnApgfU/REFnVNBjQoGGA) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
One way that has worked for me is:
 
Jack up the car so the rear wheels can rotate.
Run the engine in gear and  with your foot
on the brake and the other foot on the clutch,
hit the b raake ffirmly and it may then pop off.
 
Bill Sohl, been there - done that
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Subject: [Fot] tr3 clutch stuck

my tr3 race car has been sitting for a while. when i started it, it wouldn't shift into gear. the clutch seems stuck to the flywheel. the slave cyl. piston is moving. any ideas? thanks ken m.

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Ken it's very common.
Make sure you have an area clear in front of you so you can drive short distance.
Bring engine to normal temp. Shut off, put in gear, clutch pedal down and hit the starter. It will usually break free immediately, hard cases may require driving in low gear, on and off throttle a few times will do it.
Remember pedal down when you do this.
HTH
Glen
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Subject: [Fot] tr3 clutch stuck

my tr3 race car has been sitting for a while. when i started it, it wouldn't shift into gear. the clutch seems stuck to the flywheel. the slave cyl. piston is moving. any ideas? thanks ken m.
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------=_Part_69154_643962944.1434918102023-- --===============1719222021021086782== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1719222021021086782==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 21 15:19:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E190D258464D for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 15:19:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm4-vm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm4-vm3.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.114]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5EE225807EF for ; Sun, 21 Jun 2015 15:19:45 -0600 (MDT) t=1434921597; bh=XHNPKw/Eqa6W4UnthGcBIQ+/GMfnUYpcoHNqMvoSppY=; h=From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=tvPvVdX60/8apDYEowkP3+GDZJFgY049h0rGZ54E5GqNMsHfvYbfxkvYH/9XuGKcEdAVEbJeWEFTpVXpsrmRAJGZ6obvv3S6H+yRjfCR6qkTJolGjsCCA2QKYZchfr4b71Gkpdyd0i49Gf3BFBrW7Nn/pmRwZfvcmLA0YZ6JtTPJFdHq6FoNsEranQ4FB/Iic6qrMKmES5ayNLCK+FxRj5aj3GO9BHJ/+ARXjtrUiPVqUV4IaBhxg1M6cCJqoJW200piAdPOOyWet1mki00O4C8aQ1260vKt8I0cjafa3MJx53GKjniaJuRSjZEfHCEPfFeiMZDNbdTb1vEK+AAdvQ== Received: from [66.196.81.158] by nm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2015 21:19:57 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.157] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2015 21:19:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp117.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2015 21:19:57 -0000 dfQmBizjKHjf2R1.ZUJ9Rzob7XeqfjyFxkOVnNhwXwBM53pi9Uy2WYC2iwHQ C8uX3b6fX0ySqjeGYEc0H_Qa_ohAVHvd2Zt22vSp0f1BYu6X0S6dVOVEYZ9. nvLs71RMyyDdM5cLhJz1CUAaJUeXzzQ_kblvDdqNGC8JJPLiz2uTbfwuj9MM lLJOntj1uygSkfn.6osErX9SVC8Dseo8UiE_7WLsAEdbGbrKrPyUtTK14XBI 4fs9hjh0cxiTl5j4qt6aVsfILQOTt6V7ZHb0juI7cplJOPwyXBP2xZSChGDS BSkNL4aZO.kOJSokMz3zxJ552mYQtc1TkssiaL_kaLO8QawwkqTn_IpUbqTH M1YkK2pov3ApDm307Vyc9mooAtrrJ8LapV7_qpoFLte1bEpOby9fNBfRpiHq pDkyzXbfdLh.s3HCb31k7NGYtIfu_yb3B7gTtPrrOE2mMnCWhnkC1UCmfTyb 6dBuucDM_ircDVsX9r7pG2NLwW1kdr.l.i50J3hCb6iCL0Oo9PjA- From: "Paul MacDonald" To: "'Bill Sohl'" , , References: Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 17:19:55 -0400 thread-index: AQHfgkghIDZGp/uTjliwxrhmNz86ygH2/SH/nYoTVYA= Content-Language: en-ca Subject: Re: [Fot] tr3 clutch stuck Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============4727493689305271194== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_009E_01D0AC46.7E4D0790" Content-Language: en-ca This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01D0AC46.7E4D0790 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rocking it in third gear works too, at least for TR8s From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill Sohl Sent: June 21, 2015 3:29 PM To: KENMUN@aol.com; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] tr3 clutch stuck One way that has worked for me is: Jack up the car so the rear wheels can rotate. Run the engine in gear and with your foot on the brake and the other foot on the clutch, hit the b raake ffirmly and it may then pop off. Bill Sohl, been there - done that ----- Original Message ----- From: KENMUN@aol.com To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, June 21, 2015 2:32 PM Subject: [Fot] tr3 clutch stuck my tr3 race car has been sitting for a while. when i started it, it wouldn't shift into gear. the clutch seems stuck to the flywheel. the slave cyl. piston is moving. any ideas? thanks ken m. _____ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billsohl@optonline.net ------=_NextPart_000_009E_01D0AC46.7E4D0790 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Rocking it in third gear works too, at least for = TR8s

 

From:= Fot = [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bill = Sohl
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To: KENMUN@aol.com; = fot@autox.team.net
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O= ne way that has worked for me is:

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J= ack up the car so the rear wheels can = rotate.

R= un the engine in gear and  with your = foot

o= n the brake and the other foot on the = clutch,

h= it the b raake ffirmly and it may then pop = off.

&= nbsp;

B= ill Sohl, been there - done that

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F= rom: = KENMUN@aol.com =

S= ent: = Sunday, June 21, 2015 2:32 PM

S= ubject: = [Fot] tr3 clutch stuck

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m= y tr3 race car has been sitting for a while. when i started it, it = wouldn't shift into gear. the clutch seems stuck to the flywheel. the = slave cyl. piston is moving. any ideas? thanks ken = m.

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------=_NextPart_000_009E_01D0AC46.7E4D0790-- --===============4727493689305271194== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4727493689305271194==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 22 16:18:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8537F2584B39 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:18:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173023pub.verizon.net (vms173023pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.23]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D0325805B5 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:17:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from new-host.home ([74.110.155.96]) by vms173023.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NQD00IXQ9XULG30@vms173023.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 17:17:59 -0500 (CDT) a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=XAFQembCKUMA:10 a=MGlSJLyAritJ6U5rSPgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=vpkealmWesIA:10 a=7U0RnZ-bP20A:10 a=zyu4lKZPplkA:10 a=vh4V9BTXoD4A:10 From: Dean Tetterton Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:17:54 -0400 To: "fot FOT@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] Spitfire MKI tranny parts needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Any body have a shifter for a 63 three rail gearbox. This is the part that has the shift lever and bolts to the top of the box cover with 4 studs, 5/16 and two dowel pins. The one I have is so worn that the shifter ball falls thru the cup. Even with a new shifter kit installed. Contact direct. Dean T. tr3a58@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 22 16:44:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A88D82585AB1 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:44:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523382580401 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 16:41:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [74.79.113.220] ([74.79.113.220:63638] helo=Shop) by dnvrco-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 58/52-01044-42F88855; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 22:41:40 +0000 From: "Spitfire Racing" To: "'Dean Tetterton'" , "'fot FOT@autox.team.net'" References: Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:41:40 -0400 Thread-Index: AdCtOWtgNcQ6WPXJRwCa1VAE1cCEdQAAyNVA Content-Language: en-us a=qdxjAw6wJAQPS8z/UKQXKQ==:117 a=qdxjAw6wJAQPS8z/UKQXKQ==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=yWe_gs48HKS5HCt6SRQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=7U0RnZ-bP20A:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 Subject: Re: [Fot] Spitfire MKI tranny parts needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What color do you want?????? Russ Moore -----Original Message----- From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Tetterton Sent: Monday, June 22, 2015 6:18 PM To: fot FOT@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Spitfire MKI tranny parts needed Any body have a shifter for a 63 three rail gearbox. This is the part that has the shift lever and bolts to the top of the box cover with 4 studs, 5/16 and two dowel pins. The one I have is so worn that the shifter ball falls thru the cup. Even with a new shifter kit installed. Contact direct. Dean T. tr3a58@verizon.net _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 22 18:05:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC61C2580401 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:05:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5DD2580359 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 18:05:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mae01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mae01.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.143]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 75E9A70035441 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 20:05:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mba10e.mail.aol.com (core-mba10.mail.aol.com [172.27.44.10]) by mtaomg-mae01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3AA7E38000083 for ; Mon, 22 Jun 2015 20:05:53 -0400 (EDT) From: SpiwakD@aol.com Full-name: SpiwakD Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 20:05:53 -0400 To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1435017953; bh=5/1r7P/GFLffelijSuQToGZN1KRlFZ7NT1hGYYD4C6Q=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=USBgcfSa/E80BJYnjArWgFPdlJ6tMeRBFTkoM6uru4JT6i0el1VLZtGwss+fvKvOa zilUv8h9LYJ+3JnXFPQA0F+l/lkeC7/izEzSGIoviLr/F/JC3Nutld6gJ5KUcdFmoF 9AJSm8a5YqimErmYKpzIB+b41Gbf3z5hY1Ye9nwY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afe8f5588a2e17182 Subject: [Fot] Overheated parts Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8456516337312952999== --part1_fbdcc.3a25a833.42b9fce1_boundary Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The oil pump broke in my TR4 and roasted the bearings. The Moldex steel crank and Carillo rods are not damaged but are now a blue color from being overheated. The machine shop is wondering if it is ok to use them. What are FOT thoughts? It takes 6 months to have another crank made. --part1_fbdcc.3a25a833.42b9fce1_boundary Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The oil pump broke in my TR4 and roasted the bearings. The Moldex ste= el=20 crank and Carillo rods are not damaged but are now a blue color from being= =20 overheated. The machine shop is wondering if it is ok to use them. What ar= e FOT=20 thoughts? It takes 6 months to have another crank=20 made.
 --part1_fbdcc.3a25a833.42b9fce1_boundary-- --===============8456516337312952999== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8456516337312952999==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 23 03:37:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2232584C2B for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 03:37:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out9.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7E925846BF for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 03:37:11 -0600 (MDT) d="scan'208,217";a="659739052" Received: from unknown (HELO PetersTowerPC) ([124.170.44.202]) by icp-osb-irony-out9.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 23 Jun 2015 17:37:22 +0800 From: "Peter Vucinic" To: , References: Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:37:41 +1000 Thread-Index: AdCtSLKiX/4yuQVSQWSxMkZ5IptkaAATqpLw Content-Language: en-au Subject: Re: [Fot] Overheated parts Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============8568947352076868693== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_02A8_01D0ADEC.1243E170" Content-Language: en-au This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_02A8_01D0ADEC.1243E170 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow! That's getting a bit scary! 400F or there bouts for blue. Would not have done the steel structure any favors at all! We are in 'stress relieving' territory for crankshaft materials. I would not be placing a bet on the components if you use them again. Best talk to Carrillo. Whatever they recommend will go equally as well for the crank. You may find that they are distorted beyond use in any event. "You can Make a Small Fortune From Motor Racing. As long as You Started With A Lage Fortune!" Kind Regards Peter Vucinic TR4 - TR7 V8 - Spitfire MkII _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of SpiwakD@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, 23 June 2015 10:06 AM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Overheated parts The oil pump broke in my TR4 and roasted the bearings. The Moldex steel crank and Carillo rods are not damaged but are now a blue color from being overheated. The machine shop is wondering if it is ok to use them. What are FOT thoughts? It takes 6 months to have another crank made. ------=_NextPart_000_02A8_01D0ADEC.1243E170 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Wow! That’s getting a bit scary! 400F or there bouts for = blue.

Would not have done the steel structure any favors at all!  We = are in ‘stress relieving’ territory for crankshaft = materials.

 

I would not be placing a bet on the components if you use them again. = Best talk to Carrillo. Whatever they recommend will go equally as well = for the crank.

You may find that they are distorted beyond use in any = event.

 

 

"You can Make a Small Fortune From Motor Racing. As long as You = Started With A Lage Fortune!"

Kind Regards

Peter Vucinic

TR4 - TR7 V8 - Spitfire MkII

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From:= = Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of = SpiwakD@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, 23 June 2015 10:06 = AM
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Subject: [Fot] Overheated = parts

 

T= he oil pump broke in my TR4 and roasted the bearings. The Moldex steel = crank and Carillo rods are not damaged but are now a blue color from = being overheated. The machine shop is wondering if it is ok to use them. = What are FOT thoughts? It takes 6 months to have another crank = made.

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New email account but same o= ld racer.
I've been using u joints with the grease nipple in t= he center of one of the bearing caps vs the type with the nipple in the cen= ter (main body) of the joint. I've had problems greasing up the center = of the body type, there always seemed to be something in the way while they= were installed in the car, while the end cap type could always be accessed= . Looking on line now it seems like almost everything available now are the= main body type. The last set of end lubed joints only lasted a year before= they got sloppy so I'm reluctant to put another set of them in.
Any suggestions on making the center fill ones easier to lube on the= car ? I've already converted the 1/2 shaft axles to larger joints and = they're great.

Plan B?

Thanks
mike h=

63 Spitfire race car and a coven of street ones
--001a113ee5e461818e05192fbfad-- --===============7215603173651013467== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============7215603173651013467==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 23 08:06:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753072584BB2 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:06:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.henryfrye.com (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D692A2584A7B for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 07:58:39 -0600 (MDT) tests=AWL: 0.782,BAYES_00: -1.665,TOTAL_SCORE: -0.883,autolearn=ham Received: from [10.4.4.120] ([10.4.4.120]) by mail.henryfrye.com (Kerio Connect 8.4.1) for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:55:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 09:58:49 -0400 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AdCtvLqb33fTglf5QhiYAXVY58C1Rw== From: Yellow04 To: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: [Fot] TR/MG challenge at Mosport Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net So last year the Canadian MGB's took 1-2-3 in the Challenge Race at Mosport after a certain famous TR6 had an engine failure. This year our numbers didn't quite get us our own Challenge Race, but VARAC called it "a race within a race", which I guess actually spanned three groups. The faithful will be happy to know the fastest lap turned by the marques was done in a Canadian TR8, and an MG did not finish in front of a Triumph in the hotly contested VH3-VH7 race group all weekend. That group ran the TR3-TR250 vs MGA-MGB. Congrats to Jeff Snook for turning a blistering 1:43.8 in his TR3A, that's truly amazing. Way to go Glen and Terry for building and maintaining a very fast and pretty car. Jeff paddocked with us, Mark and I have never had so much action under our tent. Thankfully everybody was looking at a pretty white TR3! VARAC is committed to continue with the TR/MG Challenge Race, this year our numbers were a little off from attrition being so close to the Jefferson 500/Kastner Cup weekend. Mark your calendars folks, this is the June race to run!!! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 23 08:22:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980AC2585A62 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:22:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f171.google.com (mail-ig0-f171.google.com [209.85.213.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43CF32584BCC for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 08:13:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by igblr2 with SMTP id lr2so54385842igb.0 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 07:14:02 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=VkCfaGrqnYka2ri1aN8qOSPzgfyUM0CYlOT/XeGvG68=; b=tTbkBu+2JExv8dHNLbRvmN6tApfrbQtbTeX86WXzyFJ4Dd/zXvcdPxaLGR32DjFxxi t5igQA/RtRH9hlNZAhq589YKaH+7KhPQ925MZodtO1ZccDWqaz7EFXXV6vvB5eye5jhB wPhxdQ7aqgGEZY/Hyi3MK7ZE5QN0VZovod2Wb0boGl8qP9ip1Wiy1LBkV6oFYbGXYaHs xdmitts9Dhm1WRNhj1HcVXrXpRdyGQhT9MJ9G2BR6LL8srSh85hC6aBqNjNzhuVBHzpu KkZyuq1KMy6XTmG6CMdegf2KEXG2wu5TO6S+g7ww8V7VjR/wzDIyUf0Re7JF/ObS9+1n QwYQ== Tue, 23 Jun 2015 07:14:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.46.146 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 07:14:02 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:14:02 -0400 From: John Styduhar To: "Triumph 'Friends of Triumph" , David Spiwak Subject: Re: [Fot] Overheated parts Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1007650275155575527== --001a113fb64e9a11a405193000f1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you want to do any more racing this season, find a good stock crank, have it balanced/nitrided and buy another set of rods for the engine rebuild. Also buy one of Steve Yott's oil pumps! On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:37 AM, Peter Vucinic wrote: > Wow! That=E2=80=99s getting a bit scary! 400F or there bouts for blue. > > Would not have done the steel structure any favors at all! We are in > =E2=80=98stress relieving=E2=80=99 territory for crankshaft materials. > > > > I would not be placing a bet on the components if you use them again. Bes= t > talk to Carrillo. Whatever they recommend will go equally as well for the > crank. > > You may find that they are distorted beyond use in any event. > > > > > > *"You can Make a Small Fortune From Motor Racing. As long as You Started > With A Lage Fortune!"* > > Kind Regards > > Peter Vucinic > > TR4 - TR7 V8 - Spitfire MkII > > _______________________________________________ > > fot@autox.team.net > > > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of * > SpiwakD@aol.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, 23 June 2015 10:06 AM > *To:* fot@autox.team.net > *Subject:* [Fot] Overheated parts > > > > The oil pump broke in my TR4 and roasted the bearings. The Moldex steel > crank and Carillo rods are not damaged but are now a blue color from bein= g > overheated. The machine shop is wondering if it is ok to use them. What a= re > FOT thoughts? It takes 6 months to have another crank made. > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/johnstydo@gmail.com > > > > --001a113fb64e9a11a405193000f1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If = you want to do any more racing this season, find a good stock crank, have i= t balanced/nitrided and buy another set of rods for the engine rebuild. Als= o buy one of Steve Yott's oil pumps!

On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:37 AM, Peter V= ucinic <pvucinic@netspace.net.au> wrote:

Wow! That=E2=80=99s ge= tting a bit scary! 400F or there bouts for blue.

Would not have done the ste= el structure any favors at all!=C2=A0 We are in =E2=80=98stress relieving= =E2=80=99 territory for crankshaft materials.

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I would not be placing a= bet on the components if you use them again. Best talk to Carrillo. Whatev= er they recommend will go equally as well for the crank.

You may find that t= hey are distorted beyond use in any event.

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Kind Regards

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The oil = pump broke in my TR4 and roasted the bearings. The Moldex steel crank and C= arillo rods are not damaged but are now a blue color from being overheated.= The machine shop is wondering if it is ok to use them. What are FOT though= ts? It takes 6 months to have another crank made.

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--001a113fb64e9a11a405193000f1-- --===============1007650275155575527== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1007650275155575527==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 23 11:07:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 263742584AA6 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:07:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from COL004-OMC2S10.hotmail.com (col004-omc2s10.hotmail.com [65.55.34.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769072584679 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:07:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL130-W3 ([65.55.34.71]) by COL004-OMC2S10.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Tue, 23 Jun 2015 10:07:18 -0700 From: Joe Henry To: "fot@autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:07:17 +0000 Importance: Normal FILETIME=[0F80FD70:01D0ADD7] Subject: [Fot] Grill Badges Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1428696301771705768== boundary="_1705a304-1c4e-4aa5-a98b-0d303a91a81a_" --_1705a304-1c4e-4aa5-a98b-0d303a91a81a_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Are there any of those beautiful FOT Grill Badges still around? A fe= llow TR guy is turning 60 and one would be a nice gift! Thanks in advance. Joe Downer Charlotte=2C N.C. RiffRAF Racing TR6 = --_1705a304-1c4e-4aa5-a98b-0d303a91a81a_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 =3B =3B =3B =3B=  =3B Are there any of those beautiful FOT Grill Badges still around?&nb= sp=3B A fellow TR guy is turning 60 and one would be a nice gift! =3B T= hanks in advance.

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= --_1705a304-1c4e-4aa5-a98b-0d303a91a81a_-- --===============1428696301771705768== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1428696301771705768==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 23 11:38:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8FC2586297 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:38:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from laurent.telenet-ops.be (laurent.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 708B225856AC for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:31:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([IPv6:2a02:1812:d1c:7a00:d57:d520:526f:b0f8]) by laurent.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id jtXs1q01R3ohQGF01tXvqv; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:31:55 +0200 From: "Marcel Van Mulders" To: References: Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:31:51 +0200 Thread-Index: AdCtSG4XfR8cSDuYSR+UcPx/yGe7sAAkLnIg Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Overheated parts Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============4442783887661355576== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01D0ADEB.417E9940" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01D0ADEB.417E9940 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Maybe the blue colour doesn't mean that much. When you have a new exhaust manifold, it will turn all sorts of blue after a short run. Maybe, if the cranckshaft is not bent, or only minimal out of balance, the damage is not serious? Probably the Carrillo rods will be still as strong as before the overheating. Marcel _____ Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens SpiwakD@aol.com Verzonden: dinsdag 23 juni 2015 2:06 Aan: fot@autox.team.net Onderwerp: [Fot] Overheated parts The oil pump broke in my TR4 and roasted the bearings. The Moldex steel crank and Carillo rods are not damaged but are now a blue color from being overheated. The machine shop is wondering if it is ok to use them. What are FOT thoughts? It takes 6 months to have another crank made. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01D0ADEB.417E9940 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Maybe the blue colour&nb= sp;doesn't mean that much.  When you h= ave a new exhaust manifold, it will tu= rn all 
sorts=20 of blue after a short run. Maybe, if the cranckshaft is not bent, or = only=20 minimal out of balance, the damage is not serious? Probably the Carrillo = rods=20 will be still as strong as before the overheating.
Marcel
Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] = Namens=20 SpiwakD@aol.com
Verzonden: dinsdag 23 juni 2015=20 2:06
Aan: fot@autox.team.net
Onderwerp: [Fot] = Overheated=20 parts

The oil pump broke in my TR4 and roasted the bearings. The Moldex = steel=20 crank and Carillo rods are not damaged but are now a blue color from = being=20 overheated. The machine shop is wondering if it is ok to use them. What = are FOT=20 thoughts? It takes 6 months to have another crank=20 made.
 ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01D0ADEB.417E9940-- --===============4442783887661355576== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4442783887661355576==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 23 12:24:34 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7E6625850DC for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:24:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4C862584A10 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:16:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.229]) by resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id juGt1q0044xDoy801uH5ax; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:17:05 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-503v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.178.3]) by resomta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id juH51q00D04nC6y01uH5r1; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:17:05 +0000 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:17:04 +0000 (UTC) From: davehogye To: Yellow04 References: <112e9050-5ac6-4693-a7af-e118da76deb8@tr4racer.com> Thread-Topic: TR/MG challenge at Mosport Thread-Index: AdCtvLqb33fTglf5QhiYAXVY58C1R6suFaWp Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR/MG challenge at Mosport Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6582073516202691010== boundary="----=_Part_22018478_288889298.1435083424023" ------=_Part_22018478_288889298.1435083424023 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for sharing this great news, Henry. It's good to hear that you guys are enjoying quality time racing together. Jeff sure does an amazing job of driving his TR3. He and his car have been an inspiration to me since our first meeting at Watkins Glen during the Kastner Cup in 2008. If I could keep up with him, our TR3s would look great racing together. I hope to get that chance someday. Dave H. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yellow04" To: fot@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 6:58:49 AM Subject: [Fot] TR/MG challenge at Mosport So last year the Canadian MGB's took 1-2-3 in the Challenge Race at Mosport after a certain famous TR6 had an engine failure. This year our numbers didn't quite get us our own Challenge Race, but VARAC called it "a race within a race", which I guess actually spanned three groups. The faithful will be happy to know the fastest lap turned by the marques was done in a Canadian TR8, and an MG did not finish in front of a Triumph in the hotly contested VH3-VH7 race group all weekend. That group ran the TR3-TR250 vs MGA-MGB. Congrats to Jeff Snook for turning a blistering 1:43.8 in his TR3A, that's truly amazing. Way to go Glen and Terry for building and maintaining a very fast and pretty car. Jeff paddocked with us, Mark and I have never had so much action under our tent. Thankfully everybody was looking at a pretty white TR3! VARAC is committed to continue with the TR/MG Challenge Race, this year our numbers were a little off from attrition being so close to the Jefferson 500/Kastner Cup weekend. Mark your calendars folks, this is the June race to run!!! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ------=_Part_22018478_288889298.1435083424023 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for sharing this great news, He= nry.

It's good to hear that you guys are enjoying quality time racing= together.

Jeff sure does an amazing job of driving his TR3.  H= e and his car have been an inspiration to me since our first meeting at Wat= kins Glen during the Kastner Cup in 2008.  If I could keep up with him= , our TR3s would look great racing together.  I hope to get that chanc= e someday.

Dave H.

From: "Yel= low04" <yellow04@tr4racer.com>
To: fot@autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 6:58:49 AM
Subject: [Fot] TR/MG= challenge at Mosport

So last year the Canadian MGB's too= k 1-2-3 in the Challenge Race at Mosport after a certain famous TR6 had an = engine failure. This year our numbers didn't quite get us our own Challenge= Race, but VARAC called it "a race within a race", which I guess actually s= panned three groups.

The faithful will be happy to know = the fastest lap turned by the marques was done in a Canadian TR8, and an MG= did not finish in front of a Triumph in the hotly contested VH3-VH7 race g= roup all weekend. That group ran the TR3-TR250 vs MGA-MGB.

Congrats to Jeff Snook for turning a blistering 1:43.8 in his TR3A, that= 's truly amazing. Way to go Glen and Terry for building and maintaining a v= ery fast and pretty car. Jeff paddocked with us, Mark and I have never had = so much action under our tent. Thankfully everybody was looking at a pretty= white TR3!

VARAC is committed to continue with the TR/MG= Challenge Race, this year our numbers were a little off from attrition bei= ng so close to the Jefferson 500/Kastner Cup weekend. Mark your calendars f= olks, this is the June race to run!!!

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------=_Part_22018478_288889298.1435083424023-- --===============6582073516202691010== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6582073516202691010==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 23 12:55:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26C02584FFD for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:55:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f172.google.com (mail-ig0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 272182584F47 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 12:46:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by igboe5 with SMTP id oe5so96249965igb.1 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:46:24 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:thread-index:content-language; bh=SB63hOTIfmKKmW3MmNfauobXzIwcwo8AhteY/Az8l9I=; b=ZhvhkFIVZ6djFcJviuXhSfVZ5XXFog06dZAOdcls8k0scGcAj+09zLTcw/lRHO/8or KPvKUckSxGjLmGluB4sww6YjNIplEyOMaaYx3XFMj7JQAnnprlOOVh9d9AUu7SfJqR+E 6DQotQJ+8ss55e9gIOMGspsVzLpRuqaU1Nn9gbc6ttDgW1TwpJLP2vbtJ3+s9yj08bKW qmyfrGq+O1iqmeYd3fv5oQXRX1t1gj2G7tCYO5RM06JzNFVT+D4vOtmsdPj8ZSYAavT+ tUeZ5Wpsbtsdi2ZjZjhtACub/lh+I/KSccaOb7rrZPi1MZRZf4iwGhVXRVKzEmcbihR6 UUaQ== Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:46:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SnookPC (cpe-71-72-104-70.columbus.res.rr.com. [71.72.104.70]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z6sm292672ign.13.2015.06.23.11.46.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 23 Jun 2015 11:46:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jeff Snook" To: Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 14:46:06 -0400 Thread-Index: AdCt5N0qfO3P92d1ROm0MsinQ/jhXQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Mosport TR/MG Challenge Addendum Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net What Henry did not say in his email was that no MGs were in front of a TR in our group, because his TR250 finished in front! First in Class and 3rd O/A. Way to go Henry, and this was the only 2nd time for his TR250 to be on the track! This was my first time there and OMG what a fast track. Only 10 turns and most of it flat out. My SUs sucked so much fuel I could almost see the fuel gauge going down! Lots of blind turn-ins and more experience will be helpful to me. Only 3 turns required braking, and not much at that! I was told that turn 8 only required a "touch" of the brakes, but I was not as comfortable as Henry & Mark in that regard. Russ Moore sets us up in a great paddock area, near the restrooms, and the only electrical outlets in the paddock. Thanks to Russ for that touch. Russ also spearheads the TR/MG challenge and organizes the trophies and festivities for us. This track is 7 hours away, but will be on my race schedule for many years to come. I would encourage everyone to experience this track once in a lifetime. Vroom, vroom, Jeff Snook http://www.snooksdreamcars.com 419-344-0319 (Mobile) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 23 13:40:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADB332584AAB for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:40:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m04.mx.aol.com (omr-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C2D2580B97 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:33:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aaj02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aaj02.mx.aol.com [172.27.3.208]) by omr-m04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id F1D93700000B9; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:34:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mla04d.mail.aol.com (core-mla04.mail.aol.com [172.27.37.4]) by mtaomg-aaj02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CAAF438000082; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:34:06 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:34:06 -0400 To: yellow04@tr4racer.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1435088046; bh=uVvB3h3rzejM5er9pxjirB90S9fYvhmj6j6DHAGjL0k=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Y0Fi8iJju/7T4T2LttT8RCMJRspUhJNq9qLBLFFZYfM+9YFDuxcJkWzh8uX4qbKhL yMsod4aXcYfqnPTZxEp8Uhj6zkD7/MssXWNWHq0cv3RwavFBD/q3KPK5InY/s8UBGs 3c8lX+hAgFEzHCAerrs5cWsMtOJbVz7ozcJi6LU0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b03d05589b4ae6b3e Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] TR/MG challenge at Mosport Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8598379973920532911== --part1_10f8b3.14bbd2f8.42bb0eae_boundary Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Henry... All GREAT news to hear about that new TR250 race car. You need to consider racing GRATTAN in mid-August. Jeff Snook will be there, as will Tony Drews. We are in garages 8, 9 and 10 in the upper paddock. And I don't have to tell you. You sure know full well what a great track GRATTAN is for TRs. Bill (Damdinger) --part1_10f8b3.14bbd2f8.42bb0eae_boundary Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Henry...

All GREAT news to hear about that new TR250 race car.  You need to co= nsider racing GRATTAN in mid-August.  Jeff Snook will be there, as wi= ll Tony Drews.  We are in garages 8, 9 and 10 in the upper paddock.
And I don't have to tell you.  You sure know full well what a great= track GRATTAN is for TRs.

Bill (Damdinger)
 --part1_10f8b3.14bbd2f8.42bb0eae_boundary-- --===============8598379973920532911== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8598379973920532911==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 23 13:55:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6DB25846C9 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:55:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m04.mx.aol.com (omr-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD8B2580915 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 13:49:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aab02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aab02.mx.aol.com [172.26.126.208]) by omr-m04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6F72470001D56; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:50:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mla04d.mail.aol.com (core-mla04.mail.aol.com [172.27.37.4]) by mtaomg-aab02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4DCD93800008A; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:50:05 -0400 (EDT) From: BillDentin@aol.com Full-name: BillDentin Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:50:05 -0400 To: jhd11@hotmail.com, fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1435089005; bh=x4Fn7KB7ITtqoOL9+lA9dje/ZDE9u38z0NVXMmxkuw0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mHUe2CmLST9HJ5jdRsg45PAx9JwqTjDO8jasWjQP9N2h6/nZPcP0Ztcw6uwfNJZxQ rlBQj6TbUsiTxeMp8XTaO48q/32mVl90EkJpk+nSUgD0GHWXgg/l2NnaWSh+Bs5cOh jdi1KLIZNMaLNouRfeeDkL76b5CmwDCHdg/Kueto= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7ed05589b86d7ba2 Subject: Re: [Fot] Grill Badges Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4877746249351375890== --part1_110a3d.4ba9c711.42bb126d_boundary Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 06/23/2015 2:37:18 PM Central Daylight Time, jhd11@hotmail.com writes: > Are there any of those beautiful FOT Grill Badges still around? A fellow > TR guy is turning 60 and one would be a nice gift! Thanks in advance. > Hmmmm. I've seen the decals, cloth patches, and flags...but I don't recall ever seeing a Grill Badge. Did we have such an animal at one time? If we did...I sure missed getting one. Bill Dentinger --part1_110a3d.4ba9c711.42bb126d_boundary Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message= dated 06/23/2015 2:37:18 PM Central Daylight Time, jhd11@hotmail.com writ= es:


Are there any of those beau= tiful FOT Grill Badges still around?  A fellow TR guy is turning 60= and one would be a nice gift!  Thanks in advance.


Hmmmm.  I've seen the decals, cloth patches, and flags...but= I don't recall ever seeing a Grill Badge.  Did we have such an anima= l at one time?  If we did...I sure missed getting one.

Bill Dentinger
 --part1_110a3d.4ba9c711.42bb126d_boundary-- --===============4877746249351375890== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4877746249351375890==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 23 14:26:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF352584E9E for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 14:26:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F612580A7E for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 14:20:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::2819:d35:6942:b765]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::2819:d35:6942:b765%15]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:20:20 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: "BillDentin@aol.com" Thread-Topic: [Fot] Grill Badges Thread-Index: AQHQre3Mud4v5H8hS022HdOZx2SuTZ26iDET Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:20:19 +0000 References: <110a3d.4ba9c711.42bb126d@aol.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Grill Badges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, there were some great badges. Did Chris Bock do those? Scott Barr McCarty Law LLP (920) 257-2233 BillDentin@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 06/23/2015 2:37:18 PM Central Daylight Time, jhd11@hotmail.com writes: Are there any of those beautiful FOT Grill Badges still around? A fellow TR guy is turning 60 and one would be a nice gift! Thanks in advance. Hmmmm. I've seen the decals, cloth patches, and flags...but I don't recall ever seeing a Grill Badge. Did we have such an animal at one time? If we did...I sure missed getting one. Bill Dentinger _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 23 14:56:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F0025863E9 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 14:56:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p02c11o145.mxlogic.net (p02c11o145.mxlogic.net [208.65.144.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08416258058D for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 14:50:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO xcentric.com.outbound10.mxlogic.net) by p02c11o145.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.4.0-1) with ESMTP id d96c9855.2b7818c2d940.446770.00-597.1264054.p02c11o145.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Tue, 23 Jun 2015 14:50:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO xcentric.com.outbound10.mxlogic.net) by p02c11o145.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.4.0-1) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 696c9855.0.446716.00-346.1263862.p02c11o145.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Tue, 23 Jun 2015 14:50:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::dc8d:98d4:a80c:1957]) by ATLPEXCAS03.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:50:26 -0400 From: John Hasty To: davehogye Thread-Topic: [Fot] TR/MG challenge at Mosport Thread-Index: AQHQrfY7A4KVVeuEiUKDq2qxlTMGVA== Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:50:26 +0000 References: <112e9050-5ac6-4693-a7af-e118da76deb8@tr4racer.com>, <201835477.22018479.1435083424026.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-exclaimer-md-config: cee22798-72e9-40a9-949b-68671b12e107 Cc: Friends of Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] TR/MG challenge at Mosport Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Dave, been trying for 4 yrs only finished in front of him once @ VIR......(his motor broke) Sent from my iPhone Thanks for sharing this great news, Henry. It's good to hear that you guys are enjoying quality time racing together. Jeff sure does an amazing job of driving his TR3. He and his car have been an inspiration to me since our first meeting at Watkins Glen during the Kastner Cup in 2008. If I could keep up with him, our TR3s would look great racing together. I hope to get that chance someday. Dave H. ________________________________ Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 6:58:49 AM Subject: [Fot] TR/MG challenge at Mosport So last year the Canadian MGB's took 1-2-3 in the Challenge Race at Mosport after a certain famous TR6 had an engine failure. This year our numbers didn't quite get us our own Challenge Race, but VARAC called it "a race within a race", which I guess actually spanned three groups. The faithful will be happy to know the fastest lap turned by the marques was done in a Canadian TR8, and an MG did not finish in front of a Triumph in the hotly contested VH3-VH7 race group all weekend. That group ran the TR3-TR250 vs MGA-MGB. Congrats to Jeff Snook for turning a blistering 1:43.8 in his TR3A, that's truly amazing. Way to go Glen and Terry for building and maintaining a very fast and pretty car. Jeff paddocked with us, Mark and I have never had so much action under our tent. Thankfully everybody was looking at a pretty white TR3! VARAC is committed to continue with the TR/MG Challenge Race, this year our numbers were a little off from attrition being so close to the Jefferson 500/Kastner Cup weekend. Mark your calendars folks, this is the June race to run!!! _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 23 15:00:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2432585464 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:00:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p14im-asmtp002.me.com (nk11p14im-asmtp002.me.com [17.158.72.161]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4AC2258530A for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:00:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.99.30] (c-68-80-11-16.hsd1.pa.comcast.net [68.80.11.16]) by nk11p14im-asmtp002.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.35.0 64bit (built Mar 31 2015)) with ESMTPSA id <0NQF00LC010WNY00@nk11p14im-asmtp002.me.com> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 21:00:34 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.14.151,1.0.33,0.0.0000 definitions=2015-06-23_07:2015-06-23,2015-06-23,1970-01-01 signatures=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1412110000 definitions=main-1506230335 From: Scott Janzen Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:00:32 -0400 References: <20150608161830.O0P57.190853.root@cdptpa-web10> <1F8E10EFD68E4653B1AD68B32924FC2B@hpd530> To: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph Subject: Re: [Fot] Leaky Pinion seal - follow-up Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6476161438355728005== boundary="Apple-Mail=_E397E023-05EF-4412-A952-76D783ADC920" --Apple-Mail=_E397E023-05EF-4412-A952-76D783ADC920 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=iso-8859-1 so, the upshot of this was that the pinion seal is not leaking a drop. = However, old gaskets and Redline synthetic must not like each other too = much, as it seems like the thing is just leaking along the front gasket = and bolt holes where the carrier bracket bolts on. I did not renew this = one when I had the diff apart. Breather vent is open. =20 Another project for another time! =20 On Jun 9, 2015, at 8:05 AM, Bill Tobin wrote: I agree with Bob about the breather in the diff. I drilled and tapped = the breather hole for a fitting and ran a -4 breather hose up and around = the frame. Seems to work. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Scott Janzen" ; "Chip Collingwood" = Cc: "'Friends of Triumph' Triumph" Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [Fot] Leaky Pinion seal > Diff's can build pressure if the little cotter pin is clogged and = force oil past the seals. I try to buy the best seals I can because the = cheap rubber parts placed in bags by our suppliers seem to be crap. = Speedie Sleeves aren't big enough to cover the whole surface so locating = them is a high priority. I have never installed one where the surface = was so poor that > I has to use sealant below the sleeve. I have used Permatex No2, the = semi-hard stuff on the splines in an attempt to seal the splines but I = still get oil under the washers that drips out when I separate axles and = drive shafts. >=20 > Bob Kramer > rkramer3@austin.rr.com >=20 > ---- Scott Janzen wrote: >> I did put a speedi-sleeve on it - good tight fit, with some permatex = under it to make sure that didn't leak - as the surface had some wear = marks. I marked everything and re-assembled as it was to maintain the = same pre-load; the diff was removed from the car so this was not = difficult to do, and there was no wobble - i.e., the preload setting was = good. I'll check to see if it was migrating from the nut - interesting = possibility, though I'm pretty sure from the visuals that it is at the = seal. >> Using Redline gear oil, 85 weight. >>=20 >> On Jun 8, 2015, at 11:31 AM, Chip Collingwood wrote: >>=20 >> Scott, >>=20 >> How was the sealing surface on the front flange? If that is damaged = or is worn then a speedy- sleeve might help. Also possible is I have = seen leaks from the behind the pinnion nut...oil migrates up the shaft = past the splines and out from behind the nut and washer...assembling = with a little silicone helps this. Did you get the flange back on in the = same attitude as it was before dis-assembly....in other words did you = mark the flange and shaft and tighten the nut to the same spot....this = is what sets the pinnion pre-load and depth >>=20 >> Chip Collingwood >> theukmotorsports.com >> (804) 564-1839 >>=20 >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Scott Janzen wrote: >> I had a leaky pinion seal on the GT6 differential, and figured I had = remedied it by putting in a new seal and a speedi-sleeve this winter. = Guess what? It's leaking more than ever. >>=20 >> Any thoughts on a better fix? >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >>=20 >> http://www.fot-racing.com >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chip@theukmotorsports.com >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net >=20 --Apple-Mail=_E397E023-05EF-4412-A952-76D783ADC920 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=iso-8859-1 so, = the upshot of this was that the pinion seal is not leaking a drop. =  However, old gaskets and Redline synthetic must not like each = other too much, as it seems like the thing is just leaking along the = front gasket and bolt holes where the carrier bracket bolts on.  I = did not renew this one when I had the diff apart.  Breather vent is = open.  
Another project for another = time!
 
On Jun 9, 2015, at 8:05 AM, Bill = Tobin wrote:

I agree = with Bob about the breather in the diff. I drilled and tapped the = breather hole for a fitting and ran a -4 breather hose up and around the = frame. Seems to work.
Bill
----- Original Message ----- From: = <rkramer3@austin.rr.com>
T= o: "Scott Janzen" <sjanzen@me.com>; "Chip = Collingwood" <chip@theukmotorsports.com>= ;
Cc: "'Friends of Triumph' Triumph" <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: = Monday, June 08, 2015 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Fot] Leaky Pinion = seal


Diff's can build pressure if = the little cotter pin is clogged and force oil past the seals. I try to = buy the best seals I can because the cheap rubber parts placed in bags = by our suppliers seem to be crap. Speedie Sleeves aren't big enough to = cover the whole surface so locating them is a high priority. I have = never installed one where the surface was so poor = that
I has to use sealant = below the sleeve. I have used Permatex No2, the semi-hard stuff on the = splines in an attempt to seal the splines but I still get oil under the = washers that drips out when I separate axles and drive = shafts.

Bob = Kramer
rkramer3@austin.rr.com

---- Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com> = wrote:
I did put a speedi-sleeve on it - good tight fit, with = some permatex under it to make sure that didn't leak - as the surface = had some wear marks.  I marked everything and re-assembled as it = was to maintain the same pre-load; the diff was removed from the car so = this was not difficult to do, and there was no wobble - i.e., the = preload setting was good.  I'll check to see if it was migrating = from the nut - interesting possibility, though I'm pretty sure from the = visuals that it is at the seal.
Using Redline gear oil, 85 = weight.

On Jun 8, 2015, at 11:31 AM, = Chip Collingwood wrote:

Scott,

How was the sealing surface on = the front flange? If that is damaged or is worn then a speedy- sleeve = might help. Also possible is I have seen leaks from the behind the = pinnion nut...oil migrates up the shaft past the splines and out from = behind the nut and washer...assembling with a little silicone helps = this. Did you get the flange back on in the same attitude as it was = before dis-assembly....in other words did you mark the flange and shaft = and tighten the nut to the same spot....this is what sets the pinnion = pre-load and depth

Chip = Collingwood
theukmotorsports.com
(804)= 564-1839

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:11 AM, = Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com> = wrote:
I had a leaky pinion seal on the GT6 differential, and = figured I had remedied it by putting in a new seal and a speedi-sleeve = this winter. Guess what?  It's leaking more than = ever.

Any thoughts on a better = fix?

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= --Apple-Mail=_E397E023-05EF-4412-A952-76D783ADC920-- --===============6476161438355728005== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6476161438355728005==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 23 15:11:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690A725865BF for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:11:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m4.mx.aol.com (omr-m4.mx.aol.com [64.12.226.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBC1258058D for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 15:09:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mab02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mab02.mx.aol.com [172.26.249.82]) by omr-m4.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1BB75380000B0 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:10:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.239.51.215] (unknown [166.170.31.153]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mab02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 9A5C23800009E for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:09:59 -0400 (EDT) References: <110a3d.4ba9c711.42bb126d@aol.com> From: christopher bock Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 17:10:00 -0400 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1435093800; bh=VcjMcHSGi3L+LP4YdMn7wfwfG7OWXDtEliOSRIQbhU0=; h=From:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=WWCMEXlk/9PhVXxEJ2E8z8VTmUZNA8r5BzO2rqDzAylnoxy+ZhLxgo0TztWTSQ4gq K+kPoSXALcAHaLUWgdp1BjzWfGg68swgj9hsgQ3Bpt+DtPzSR8LFlxQ6vsTcoEZWp0 Wns2Q3OVe7naq6HDzBgZLCB1qFraq3cjQCAlQqbs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1af9525589cb277176 Subject: Re: [Fot] Grill Badges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yup. I still have some and flags also. Email sent off list. Sincerely, Chris Bock SeaCubeCo.com 609-319-4322 > On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:20 PM, "Barr, Scott" wrote: > > Yes, there were some great badges. Did Chris Bock do those? > > > Scott Barr > McCarty Law LLP > (920) 257-2233 > > > BillDentin@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 06/23/2015 2:37:18 PM Central Daylight Time, jhd11@hotmail.com writes: > > > Are there any of those beautiful FOT Grill Badges still around? A fellow TR guy is turning 60 and one would be a nice gift! Thanks in advance. > > > Hmmmm. I've seen the decals, cloth patches, and flags...but I don't recall ever seeing a Grill Badge. Did we have such an animal at one time? If we did...I sure missed getting one. > > Bill Dentinger > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/seacubeco@aol.com > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 23 16:27:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 518AD258682A for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:27:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CE125844EA for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 16:19:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mab02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mab02.mx.aol.com [172.26.249.82]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 73E6F700000B1 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.239.51.215] (unknown [166.170.31.153]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mab02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 18D3B3800008A for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:19:51 -0400 (EDT) From: christopher bock Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 18:19:51 -0400 To: FoTTriumph x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1435097991; bh=qxsGiLVtJCHU3h+hJJxXvOJm53PN7ZctdN7l6USDjAk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=VtxUO1aYA+XUHpNdJlIQxF0DJxNKG9ko0VcOYArxmdC1llOaCZVS+QLf2mDepaebw d4/9jOruaxxwrp0YwedXTDwIF6fwGcChB5ahSad7C1j1Kxz5R9g0TXu7jCD9VzlzpK GA2gYqsE3X0/q2qKdPrwESAiI6HnzH4qx06pOINM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1af9525589db876c8a Subject: [Fot] Grille Badges and Flags Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Amici, I do have grill badges and flags! Grill badges are $30 Flags are $15 Prices include shipping PayPal to seacubeco@aol.com Or check to Chris Bock 19372 Handy Rd. Bridgeville, DE 19933 Sincerely, Chris Bock SeaCubeCo.com 609-319-4322 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 23 19:32:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59E422584C9A for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:32:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CAA425846FF for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:31:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.225]) by resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id k1XA1q0024s37d4011YCue; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 01:32:12 +0000 Received: from locutus ([50.170.163.20]) by resomta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id k1YB1q00M0Sj6Ay011YBpC; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 01:32:12 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:35:11 -0600 Thread-Index: AdCuHgKwrWccAQ1bSLaY3fgwWyg6IQ== Subject: [Fot] # 450 TR4IRS-TR5-TR6 rear coils springs? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============8587020847226746219== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006E_01D0ADEB.B8704670" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01D0ADEB.B8704670 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone happen to have a set of #450 rear springs they are willing to part with ? Thanks, Jim g ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01D0ADEB.B8704670 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Does anyone happen to have a set of #450 rear springs = they are willing to part with ?

Thanks,

Jim g

------=_NextPart_000_006E_01D0ADEB.B8704670-- --===============8587020847226746219== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8587020847226746219==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 23 19:33:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204A425868F6 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:33:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ACF925845EE for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:31:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-20v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.244]) by resqmta-po-05v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id k1Y51q00A5Geu28011YC6Y; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 01:32:12 +0000 Received: from locutus ([50.170.163.20]) by resomta-po-20v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id k1YB1q00b0Sj6Ay011YBU9; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 01:32:12 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:35:11 -0600 Thread-Index: AdCuHgKwrWccAQ1bSLaY3fgwWyg6IQ== s=q20140121; t=1435109532; bh=YKjfc5nxnsMnYOlP+gWGnoaIJsffE6OJewqqdPwKhug=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bt0Tt+h4yiprG0RzdJHHPY6PrPYVGojutr+lr1CjzEOT+C+lSzChpJvk0Fbdv4Vf7 Ll2Ig3lqMrA0EvnUvyxMoqJOYnGjNZaPFgUpcbV9RPhjCCBfEEkQRPDivZV332l+70 Mv4eb/zfDSeB6EtLgkAeCT7X0u3CW1pPUdWHUeBGzetm/OxcRZXtecwcWixiVureDn +R4zfQ0U3NZ7rPy3Mp9GbDq3I10zXQ9926ooFEIdgKCIjipkUKY8l6zhFz17IjdxbG VjCvaMNQJFixaCTNg2JvnKTfyxXjs1qaezEh0r+6hddqcD2vF6U1RIy0kWCbPjXMoA jnpevcLRx9WuQ== Subject: [Fot] # 450 TR4IRS-TR5-TR6 rear coils springs? Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1929208108204571076== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01D0ADEB.B8777260" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01D0ADEB.B8777260 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone happen to have a set of #450 rear springs they are willing to part with ? Thanks, Jim g ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01D0ADEB.B8777260 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Does anyone happen to have a set of #450 rear springs = they are willing to part with ?

Thanks,

Jim g

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Pardon my igno= rance, don't know what they are, but somewhere around the garage are a pair= of stock springs
 
26A GT6+, 28 TR6<= /div>Brian Schirano
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BSchirano@yahoo.com
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To: fot= @autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:35 PM
Subject: [Fot] # 450 TR4IRS-TR5-TR6 rear coils springs?=

=20 =20
= Does anyone happen to have a set of #450 rear springs they are willing to part with ?
=20
= Thanks,
=20
= Jim g
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------=_Part_3082_503869308.1435110267127-- --===============0032818529275604662== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0032818529275604662==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 23 20:01:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DED32584870 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:01:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1845A2584870 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:52:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.236]) by resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id k1sQ1q00256HXL0011ssiv; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 01:52:52 +0000 Received: from locutus ([50.170.163.20]) by resomta-po-12v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id k1sr1q00D0Sj6Ay011srsd; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 01:52:51 +0000 From: "Jim Gray" To: "'Brian Schirano'" , Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 19:56:12 -0600 Thread-Index: AdCuH06ea6QFz6aeRauIe2/lcZMtGAAAPR2w s=q20140121; t=1435110772; bh=hI59PoJC2jZgl5e4y7KR4PmN3QiPtoDzqAdBH9oA2M8=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=u6VDT14AOqFhHGaAjKZ5MEJBB5lWNftKinV+IL5peJt7J8iNQmBAtzmDJEBNb94eH tIGzlOUB0AAk/X/C0LxDGYl2ls4yjzcxxyF5qzngiMGTWkH5xQheskqTu5e96w77+H 11GJ7J+Mm6p/A3auVZI8bhCeMlAsbBCDBt9o33WmPu3ELDLPcxFALHHxmH1U2xbKoJ ybYfBT+GIP020Mb/q+eqRbj4yYnnH8boUKiDt0lH3lJvanAV3e14juZbjrBXE7gSLS qeyulfP8wsvBf8BL7PXpBQZ5kLe6/m46Ez1C8qY93nFv8y9VkRQ1r0Fz8hcg27EpEt aIfgyO8OKElBA== Subject: Re: [Fot] # 450 TR4IRS-TR5-TR6 rear coils springs?..more Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============8643172583390580979== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01D0ADEE.A82568B0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01D0ADEE.A82568B0 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable After some further looking at available spring rates I found #450 = aren=92t made for the 4 -6. They go from 420 to 510 & 550. The inside diameter of these springs is 2.75=94. There is no shortage at all of 2.5ID springs = on the market. I can=92t think of any reason =BC=94 will make any difference = but I=92ve been surprised before. Any input would be appreciated, jim g =20 _____ =20 From: Brian Schirano [mailto:bschirano@yahoo.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 7:44 PM To: Jim Gray; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] # 450 TR4IRS-TR5-TR6 rear coils springs? =20 Pardon my ignorance, don't know what they are, but somewhere around the garage are a pair of stock springs =20 26A GT6+, 28 TR6 Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell=20 BSchirano@yahoo.com =20 _____ =20 From: Jim Gray To: fot@autox.team.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:35 PM Subject: [Fot] # 450 TR4IRS-TR5-TR6 rear coils springs? =20 Does anyone happen to have a set of #450 rear springs they are willing = to part with ? Thanks, Jim g _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com =20 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano@yahoo.com ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01D0ADEE.A82568B0 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

After some further looking at = available spring rates I found #450 aren’t made for the 4 -6. They go from = 420 to 510 & 550. The inside diameter of these springs is 2.75”. There is = no shortage at all of 2.5ID springs on the market. I can’t think of any reason = =BC” will make any difference but I’ve been surprised = before.

Any input would be = appreciated,

jim g

 

From: Brian = Schirano [mailto:bschirano@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, = 2015 7:44 PM
To: Jim Gray; = fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] # 450 TR4IRS-TR5-TR6 rear coils springs?

 

Pardon my ignorance, don't know what they are, but somewhere around the garage = are a pair of stock springs

 

26A GT6+, 28 TR6

Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell 
BSchirano@yahoo.com

 
------=_NextPart_000_0004_01D0ADEE.A82568B0-- --===============8643172583390580979== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8643172583390580979==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 23 20:31:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03A12584E45 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:31:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail.henryfrye.com (wsip-98-174-80-202.ri.ri.cox.net [98.174.80.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CE022580428 for ; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 20:29:51 -0600 (MDT) tests=AWL: 0.587,BAYES_00: -1.665,TOTAL_SCORE: -1.078,autolearn=ham Received: from [10.4.4.120] ([10.4.4.120]) by mail.henryfrye.com (Kerio Connect 8.4.1) for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:26:25 -0400 Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2015 22:30:00 -0400 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AdCt5N0qfO3P92d1ROm0MsinQ/jhXQALOpeQ References: <00ad01d0ade4$ddde5a70$999b0f50$@com> From: Yellow04 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Mosport TR/MG Challenge Addendum Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Snook > Subject: [Fot] Mosport TR/MG Challenge Addendum > This track is > 7 hours away, but will be on my race schedule for many years to come. I > would encourage everyone to experience this track once in a lifetime. Fair warning, folks. This is the reaction almost everybody has once they experience Mosport! _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 24 07:08:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD90258792D for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:08:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (omr-relay-3.cniteam.com [209.143.0.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8F7925807BE for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 06:58:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rg7.cniteam.com (rg7.cniteam.com [209.143.0.247]) by omr-relay-3.cniteam.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id t5OCwkT3064149 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 08:58:46 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([216.201.14.237]) by rg7.cniteam.com (MOS 4.4.5-GA) with ESMTP id BHF56378 (AUTH tws@bright.net) for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 08:58:43 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 08:58:49 -0400 From: Ted Schumacher User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.7.0 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <20150624020148.E4C3B258764C@autox.team.net> ip=, rules=__MOZILLA_MSGID, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, DATE_TZ_NA, __HAS_FROM, __USER_AGENT, __MOZILLA_USER_AGENT, __MIME_VERSION, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __TO_NO_NAME, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __REFERENCES, __IN_REP_TO, __CT, __CTYPE_MULTIPART_ALT, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY, __CTYPE_MULTIPART, __BAT_BOUNDARY, __TO_IN_SUBJECT, __ANY_URI, URI_ENDS_IN_HTML, __FRAUD_BODY_WEBMAIL, __FRAUD_CONTACT_NUM, ECARD_KNOWN_DOMAINS, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __C230066_P5, __STOCK_PHRASE_6, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, __HTML_BOLD, __HTML_FONT_BLUE, __FORWARDED_MSG, __HAS_HTML, HTML_NO_HTTP, BODY_SIZE_10000_PLUS, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, __MIME_HTML, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML, __STYLE_RATWARE_NEG, RDNS_NXDOMAIN, __URI_NS, HTML_70_90, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, RDNS_SUSP, TO_IN_SUBJECT, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, REFERENCES, NO_URI_HTTPS refid=str=0001.0A020202.558AA983.01CE, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=0.0.0.0, so=2014-06-20 05:37:11, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32, mode=multiengine Subject: Re: [Fot] # 450 TR4IRS-TR5-TR6 rear coils springs?..more Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0208482582725603826== boundary="------------060004020703020700050700" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060004020703020700050700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jim, are you looking for small diameter springs for use with a coil over? We make uprated springs, either stock length (11 1/2") or 1" shorter. These are OE ID & OD. Rate is 475#. We may be able to supply "coil-over" springs as well. What length do you need for this? Ted On 6/23/2015 9:56 PM, Jim Gray wrote: > > After some further looking at available spring rates I found #450 > aren’t made for the 4 -6. They go from 420 to 510 & 550. The inside > diameter of these springs is 2.75”. There is no shortage at all of > 2.5ID springs on the market. I can’t think of any reason ¼” will make > any difference but I’ve been surprised before. > > Any input would be appreciated, > > jim g > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*Brian Schirano [mailto:bschirano@yahoo.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 23, 2015 7:44 PM > *To:* Jim Gray; fot@autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Fot] # 450 TR4IRS-TR5-TR6 rear coils springs? > > Pardon my ignorance, don't know what they are, but somewhere around > the garage are a pair of stock springs > > 26A GT6+, 28 TR6 > > Brian Schirano > 585-305-0349 Cell > BSchirano@yahoo.com > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:*Jim Gray > *To:* fot@autox.team.net > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:35 PM > *Subject:* [Fot] # 450 TR4IRS-TR5-TR6 rear coils springs? > > Does anyone happen to have a set of #450 rear springs they are willing > to part with ? > > Thanks, > > Jim g > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano@yahoo.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/tedtsimx@bright.net > > -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx@bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. 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Jim, are you looking for small diameter springs for use with a coil over? We make uprated springs, either stock length (11 1/2") or 1" shorter. These are OE ID & OD. Rate is 475#.  We may be able to supply "coil-over" springs as well. What length do you need for this? Ted


On 6/23/2015 9:56 PM, Jim Gray wrote:

After some further looking at available spring rates I found #450 aren’t made for the 4 -6. They go from 420 to 510 & 550. The inside diameter of these springs is 2.75”. There is no shortage at all of 2.5ID springs on the market. I can’t think of any reason ¼” will make any difference but I’ve been surprised before.

Any input would be appreciated,

jim g

 

From: Brian Schirano [mailto:bschirano@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 7:44 PM
To: Jim Gray; fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] # 450 TR4IRS-TR5-TR6 rear coils springs?

 

Pardon my ignorance, don't know what they are, but somewhere around the garage are a pair of stock springs

 

26A GT6+, 28 TR6

Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell 
BSchirano@yahoo.com

 

From: Jim Gray <toodamnfunky@comcast.net>
To: fot@autox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 9:35 PM
Subject: [Fot] # 450 TR4IRS-TR5-TR6 rear coils springs?

 

Does anyone happen to have a set of #450 rear springs they are willing to part with ?

Thanks,

Jim g


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--------------060004020703020700050700-- --===============0208482582725603826== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0208482582725603826==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 24 07:23:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E1D2587946 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:23:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D91A25846DB for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 07:19:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::2819:d35:6942:b765]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::2819:d35:6942:b765%15]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 08:19:27 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: Marcel Van Mulders , "SpiwakD@aol.com" Thread-Topic: [Fot] Overheated parts Thread-Index: AQHQrUh1c+z1SKDRgkSgSYdWaa4DYp26rjuAgAD3WbA= Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:19:26 +0000 References: <01D73164DF294B978AF04FF03B486F2C@GebruikerPC> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.1.81] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Overheated parts Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1256095382454102053== Content-Language: en-US boundary="_000_84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50BA6E561SVREXCH02mccart_" --_000_84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50BA6E561SVREXCH02mccart_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a set of Pauter rods and I turned one blue once when I spun a bearin= g. I sent it back to Pauter for inspection and actually talked to Mr. Paut= er himself who told me it was no problem. Specifically, he said "You shoul= d see what those Porsche guys send back to us!" I've now been using that rod with the big end turned blue for a 7 or 8 year= s, with no problem. Scott From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Marcel Van Mulde= rs Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:32 PM To: SpiwakD@aol.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Overheated parts Maybe the blue colour doesn't mean that much. When you have a new exhaust = manifold, it will turn all sorts of blue after a short run. Maybe, if the cranckshaft is not bent, or = only minimal out of balance, the damage is not serious? Probably the Carril= lo rods will be still as strong as before the overheating. Marcel ________________________________ SpiwakD@aol.com> Verzonden: dinsdag 23 juni 2015 2:06 Onderwerp: [Fot] Overheated parts The oil pump broke in my TR4 and roasted the bearings. The Moldex steel cra= nk and Carillo rods are not damaged but are now a blue color from being ove= rheated. The machine shop is wondering if it is ok to use them. What are FO= T thoughts? It takes 6 months to have another crank made. --_000_84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50BA6E561SVREXCH02mccart_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have a set of Pauter rods and I tur= ned one blue once when I spun a bearing.  I sent it back to Pauter for= inspection and actually talked to Mr. Pauter himself who told me it was no problem.  Specifically, he said “You shou= ld see what those Porsche guys send back to us!”

 

I’ve now been using that rod wi= th the big end turned blue for a 7 or 8 years, with no problem.<= /span>

 

Scott

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.= team.net] On Behalf Of Marcel Van Mulders
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 12:32 PM
To: SpiwakD@aol.com
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Overheated parts

 

 

Maybe the blue colour = ;doesn't mean that much.  When you have&= nbsp;a new exhaust manifold, it will turn&nbs= p;all 

sorts of blue after a short run. Maybe, i= f the cranckshaft is not bent, or only minimal out of balance, the damage i= s not serious? Probably the Carrillo rods will be still as strong as before the overheating.

Marcel

Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens SpiwakD@aol.com
Verzonden: dinsdag 23 juni 2015 2:06
Aan: fot@autox.team.net Onderwerp: [Fot] Overheated parts=

The oil pump broke in my TR4 and roasted = the bearings. The Moldex steel crank and Carillo rods are not damaged but a= re now a blue color from being overheated. The machine shop is wondering if it is ok to use them. What are FOT thoughts? = It takes 6 months to have another crank made.

--_000_84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50BA6E561SVREXCH02mccart_-- --===============1256095382454102053== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1256095382454102053==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 24 08:39:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AAB92587A54 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 08:39:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth05.mfg.siteprotect.com (smtpauth05h.mfg.siteprotect.com [64.26.60.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00FD82584F76 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 08:33:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.16.58.88] (unknown [74.124.40.40]) (Authenticated sender: don@dcphotos.com) by smtpauth05.mfg.siteprotect.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C4C1210A08BFF for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:33:35 -0500 (CDT) From: "don@dcphotos.com" Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:33:34 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Fot] Weber 45 DCOE top cover needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hey, Somehow the float fulcrum on my 45 DCOE broke. (Honest Dad, I was just standing there and it broke!) Was wondering if anyone here might have a top cover for a DCOE. I think they fit all size DCOE or at least a 40 or 45 as the rebuild kits seem to. Or if you have a 45 DCOE 13 you want to sell. Thanks Don DON COUCH PHOTOGRAPHY (512)-680-3540 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 24 09:10:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4875A2584BA9 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:10:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.q.com (smtp.quartz.synacor.com [205.169.121.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A462584509 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 09:10:10 -0600 (MDT) q=dns/txt; i=@q.com; t=1435158623; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=3nCYgtTQ75IsbWwULwwU/zPSpnc=; b=Sm1kCp5DsJSn8O353sMyxwaw1S2c/TZS1SCwGapm3OYjkq/v5cpLdSrxGsAOdFAh 5F7gc6o+CpyPbcfOiW8yE+5Gi37xxYB23bCt1tLy48UYYwxTMGhukGm366EHIlOf bbEPQs+1fIwShXY2urDVFuRzMifMDYZUjmvU4hAMnshAwAS8VhRf7APMnH17Crz5 uHNWYE22GM2JCwCwGPBATeMGLZ5AumHBY05Y9Hc73i7LypWoSGD1UA6IGuiQ/6Zx PgimJ8pWyV7RjyKcZYQS6dpRCmf4PR32dAlcWz7WbjeZSb01MvK20uSL59ZQBTRx qlW+4oAU4IN8IPBHqKsgEw==; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=MVt/OeM/O+V7psr6YXG+1g==:117 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=6mYzRVKZlpoA:10 a=BM2Wo2QsAAAA:8 a=NdO5p7YqPMjegSLou4cA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hn1LNCl3YYEA:10 a=SKIH2XrBguUA:10 a=U3GjKWlNdtgA:10 a=5a4worhDY6-lwg2swdwA:9 a=NA0ANv-NpN3-UtUf:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Received: from [10.30.7.251] ([10.30.7.251:36114] helo=md04.quartz.synacor.com) by smtp.q.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 4A/AE-15303-F58CA855; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:10:23 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:10:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Dan Forgey To: triumph fot Subject: [Fot] TR4 Head Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8556633837610405517== boundary="----=_Part_617036_86315362.1435158623076" ------=_Part_617036_86315362.1435158623076 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Seems the head on my TR4 race car has expired. Cracked in combustion chamber for some unknown reason. Anyway I do have a stock head that can be modified but would like to ask if anyone on the list has a prepared or semi-prepared head they would like to sell. Thanks, Dan Forgey ------=_Part_617036_86315362.1435158623076 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Seems the head on my TR4 race car has expired.  Cracked in combustion chamber for some unknown reason.

Anyway I do have a stock head that can be modified but would like to ask if anyone on the list has a prepared or semi-prepared head they would like to sell.

Thanks,

Dan Forgey 
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What are the internal differences between a tr6 and a gt6 transmission?

--047d7b414172334e920519467049-- --===============7559350898893763715== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============7559350898893763715==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 24 11:12:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1C1258798E for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:12:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f181.google.com (mail-ie0-f181.google.com [209.85.223.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D00AE2584668 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:00:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ieqy10 with SMTP id y10so37516747ieq.0 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:00:56 -0700 (PDT) h=subject:from:content-type:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=aPbf3NbcBUaFI7Ot2a7qiSVdFxVO5yWac1EtSVH9iTY=; b=etbZMSW27LZI6S73vkadUczYi0mb2C2kToQ9TntQc6Q4muxGNaVzKdHazLt1rE7bmn JkL0DbYd3r//l0a2LbDv6KUw3s5MoMpHM1fvTrlo1XyZJMOikQ+v6PpiElOgWVEL8xrI uaFJi5EfA2QHjd5cVNRBcv4RksvKu52RpRgqfmRz98UAf0CEvQ4S7GOWn77ZLgRrzOMU p7JtmUa9q5bWWy20mMY7+TZrDmN+fOY/bsjxCUcmUhck+GC7OVFjYJ45hun96tb0Bof6 hqOd1GSvy/EbAtENG5OOh9jGm+R3yi6f3IhZNKOriR+0xRkW02v+Q1vLxV8C5n9fYs3a WEGw== Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] (jesp-12-118.dsl.netins.net. [216.51.203.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 77sm17665663ioi.20.2015.06.24.10.00.55 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:00:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:00:53 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup DVDs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT I am settled in again, and shipping the Kastner Cup DVDs. I think I have moved about 20 out of the 25 in the bulk shipment that I received from John. I assembled into deluxe cases and installed the artwork, keeping the cost down. $25 including postage. I will request more when these are gone. You can also order directly from John, as well. If you have received yours and are willing to review, please do. It is unlikely we will ever have coverage of a Kastner Cup like this again. All proceeds go to John Clancy Productions. Thank you very much, Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 24 11:57:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687692584EE0 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:57:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC2S35.hotmail.com (blu004-omc2s35.hotmail.com [65.55.111.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70F025846AD for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:46:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W109 ([65.55.111.71]) by BLU004-OMC2S35.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Wed, 24 Jun 2015 10:46:33 -0700 From: marty To: FOT Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:46:32 -0400 Importance: Normal FILETIME=[B57D50B0:01D0AEA5] Subject: [Fot] PVGP at PittRace next month Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6140372371395502877== boundary="_dd105003-5fdd-4d26-b6c7-35b0c5db24a1_" --_dd105003-5fdd-4d26-b6c7-35b0c5db24a1_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you are planning on running the PVGP at PittRace next month and If you h= aven't seen it yet... a rebel video was taken before the final coats of pav= ement were put down. See it here: http://ow.ly/OH08Y . This is a section of= the new track extension. Ye Haw! :) =20 Marty = --_dd105003-5fdd-4d26-b6c7-35b0c5db24a1_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
If you are planning on running t= he PVGP at PittRace next month and If you haven't seen it yet... a rebel vi= deo was taken before the final coats of pavement were put down. See it here= : http://ow.l= y/OH08Y =3B. This is a section of the new track extension. Ye Haw! = :)
 =3B
Marty
= --_dd105003-5fdd-4d26-b6c7-35b0c5db24a1_-- --===============6140372371395502877== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6140372371395502877==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 24 12:29:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447232587C18 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:29:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AEEB2584B9F for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:05:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [184.58.135.148] ([184.58.135.148:61216] helo=SLTC) by dnvrco-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 23/8A-13752-751FA855; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:05:11 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: "'dan griffin'" , References: Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 13:05:07 -0500 Thread-Index: AdCuoPo8GP/0wiarQm6Xs5QgS0JJ7wABrOiw Content-Language: en-us a=fnFn1fNgoXPPV0bsU6PlVg==:117 a=fnFn1fNgoXPPV0bsU6PlVg==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=Zr7miEi8wWIA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=2oeSqxxVzlsA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=H3W9wgvoIlGYMa651bAA:9 a=_13HAEzBYXBHtry9:21 a=ntUDtqeT_ZyEwWE6:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=XxeBmfOh_ncV-wN_:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 Subject: Re: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============7340314159635072017== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0088_01D0AE7E.658D0F40" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01D0AE7E.658D0F40 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just about everything! These are totally different designs. The GT6 is = closely related to the Spitfire gearbox and the TR6 is the culmination = of improvements of the 2000 and TR2 gearboxes. The later TR6 gearboxes = are the best you can find for reliability as there are a number of = modifications available to improve the reliability as long as you stay = in the 175 to 200 HP range. =20 Steve Yott =20 From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dan griffin Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:00 PM To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission =20 What are the internal differences between a tr6 and a gt6 transmission? ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01D0AE7E.658D0F40 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just about everything!=C2=A0 These are totally different = designs.=C2=A0 The GT6 is closely related to the Spitfire gearbox and the TR6 is the culmination of improvements of the 2000 and TR2 gearboxes.=C2=A0 The = later TR6 gearboxes are the best you can find for reliability as there are a = number of modifications available to improve the reliability as long as you = =C2=A0stay in the 175 to 200 HP range.

 

Steve Yott

 

From:= Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dan griffin
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:00 PM
To: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission

 

What are the internal differences between a tr6 and a gt6 = transmission?

------=_NextPart_000_0088_01D0AE7E.658D0F40-- --===============7340314159635072017== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============7340314159635072017==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 24 12:30:39 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F372587CE8 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:30:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m2.mx.aol.com (omr-m2.mx.aol.com [64.12.133.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5912584775 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:10:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mbe02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mbe02.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.176]) by omr-m2.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8FF7B38000181; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:10:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-ana04a.mail.aol.com (core-ana04.mail.aol.com [172.27.9.14]) by mtaomg-mbe02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5EDB438000085; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:10:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 24.120.231.2 by webprd-m81.mail.aol.com (10.74.55.16) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:10:19 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:10:19 -0400 From: gt6steve@aol.com To: dangriffin154@gmail.com, fot@autox.team.net References: x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20150623; t=1435169419; bh=thuJO0i972VGF9V77s+KpagIo7RrzeR5GJDFNhLSHww=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=C5OVOn8uU08CY7/vK8X5j5VMKAYnRHHFRaj3hJtUiMUyRd0hSLdiLeqOjpiT6+7Be Is5eytdyOsoaUAPE1lTGHqDXGVru1toiEb/vSzY3ArZyZQYfncTIqmf0p+vrKjA+TC Ww9OYXs2lEPogOqZK/TX0KC4FeYBh/m8V9lgFJSY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afeb0558af28b5700 Subject: Re: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4309488359023970668== boundary="----=_Part_115545_1750386061.1435169419085" ------=_Part_115545_1750386061.1435169419085 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scale. The TR box is substantially bigger. They can be interchanged with some modifications. -----Original Message----- From: dan griffin To: fot Sent: Wed, Jun 24, 2015 10:47 am Subject: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission What are the internal differences between a tr6 and a gt6 transmission? _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/gt6steve@aol.com ------=_Part_115545_1750386061.1435169419085 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Scale.  The TR box is substantially bigger.  They can be interchanged with some modifications.


-----Original Message-----
From: dan griffin <dangriffin154@gmail.com>
To: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Jun 24, 2015 10:47 am
Subject: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission

What are the internal differences between a tr6 and a gt6 transmission?
 ------=_Part_115545_1750386061.1435169419085-- --===============4309488359023970668== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4309488359023970668==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 24 12:59:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901CA2587A7F for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:59:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ABB6258508D for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 12:41:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbbpo10 with SMTP id po10so31777405lbb.3 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:41:13 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=zhJmzXc4Yny50FPfwWrQaOm9DjmXiN0Ss/goJ0ZLymo=; b=kt8XGoYUjMlZA/GhuHUJk3L9SxJGYWNuAi7+K6qJ6skeLCPBAgZD06TKsBko9A2za2 kVfMdLE0rnKg+PsUw+y0AT3DuDgKghA1A/7CN3NXKXLRm6ovMAxAve+Xkxz9drVGKfiQ QfiG67NmU3Mv4JizJsBRIwDQFg32VlAAitVPkIUukKnqHljqa8kbgbVO32Lga7nG+ayl 6qGbTrHJRXf7W6+cqzhaLqL3m/a1pmtLr4uvK82meEIaBqtTy6AA+8VVXeAeOV7ZhbYF HZ+72eNG6CPd2GV9NO/aGSLCzxWkQAY8dZZpu/HG61nL2P5NkfQNH8FrmkLCXmDyeRHY VBOQ== Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.189.98 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:40:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Kas Kastner Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:40:34 -0700 To: FOT Subject: [Fot] The Clancy FOT & K Cup video Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3962072159909586058== --001a11c34eb4f11e07051947d9b3 Great job by John with lots of interviews and shots of the lots of racers and other stuff. Really grand job. *Never be beaten by equipment.* --001a11c34eb4f11e07051947d9b3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Great job by John with lots of interviews and shots of the= lots of racers and other stuff. Really=C2=A0grand job.

Never = be beaten by equipment.

--001a11c34eb4f11e07051947d9b3-- --===============3962072159909586058== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3962072159909586058==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 24 15:31:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5509258545A for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:31:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SNT004-OMC3S26.hotmail.com (snt004-omc3s26.hotmail.com [65.55.90.165]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FAD825800B4 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:24:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT407-EAS390 ([65.55.90.136]) by SNT004-OMC3S26.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Wed, 24 Jun 2015 14:24:29 -0700 References: <008701d0aea8$4e631740$eb2945c0$@rr.com> From: D V Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 16:24:26 -0500 To: Steve Yott FILETIME=[27B1A140:01D0AEC4] Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6607149767579147012== boundary="_886be2d2-e8d1-4f0a-a072-49718f4c6367_" --_886be2d2-e8d1-4f0a-a072-49718f4c6367_ boundary="Apple-Mail-6698F2F3-7B9E-4ACE-AFCA-589A846B9D0C" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-6698F2F3-7B9E-4ACE-AFCA-589A846B9D0C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Later TR6 transmissions starting when? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Steve Yott wrote: >=20 > Just about everything! These are totally different designs. The GT6 is c= losely related to the Spitfire gearbox and the TR6 is the culmination of imp= rovements of the 2000 and TR2 gearboxes. The later TR6 gearboxes are the be= st you can find for reliability as there are a number of modifications avail= able to improve the reliability as long as you stay in the 175 to 200 HP ra= nge. > =20 > Steve Yott > =20 > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dan griffin > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:00 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission > =20 > What are the internal differences between a tr6 and a gt6 transmission? >=20 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/explore8@out= look.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-6698F2F3-7B9E-4ACE-AFCA-589A846B9D0C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Later TR6 transmissions starting when?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Steve Yott <tr4@wi.rr.com> wrote:

Just about everything!  These are totally different designs.  The GT6 is closely related to the Spitfire gearbox and the TR6 is the culmination of improvements of the 2000 and TR2 gearboxes.  The later TR6 gearboxes are the best you can find for reliability as there are a number of modifications available to improve the reliability as long as you  stay in the 175 to 200 HP range.

 

Steve Yott

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dan griffin
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:00 PM
To: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission

 

What are the internal differences between a tr6 and a gt6 transmission?

--Apple-Mail-6698F2F3-7B9E-4ACE-AFCA-589A846B9D0C-- --_886be2d2-e8d1-4f0a-a072-49718f4c6367_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --_886be2d2-e8d1-4f0a-a072-49718f4c6367_-- --===============6607149767579147012== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6607149767579147012==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 24 18:48:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249D22587766 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:48:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2552E25807BA for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 18:38:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-16v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.112]) by resqmta-ch2-06v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id kQee1q0032S2Q5R01QfB77; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:39:11 +0000 Received: from [10.215.146.173] ([166.177.249.3]) by resomta-ch2-16v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id kQex1q002058mZA01QezX9; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:39:09 +0000 References: <008701d0aea8$4e631740$eb2945c0$@rr.com> From: Jeff Durant Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:38:58 -0700 To: D V s=q20140121; t=1435192751; bh=n/AMunVrcqQoQa8xXnVAkd3AMeN8rxHFh1rGbsZQR3U=; h=Received:Received:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:From: Subject:Date:To; b=qbIuRJGEO4xLUJkWTIVn3gbmrG0ZvWFnYZvNO+Iy1kUcVsMgxL6KCKhoZHR8B8htD Vy/h7JT8i8EBRQQIDaPpr3wo7LESZeVm8+1WZmHQiJhCdvv5wa3BH1ZB2Bp2TOhBDE T/N+4qQN58UaaOn21Yu4Sw5rU1l4X7mXC4k0Qr5i+BJhEmn/TeVtlYBXNSXgegsFe+ x/28/BBUcfETetqmdN9Nlkv8WmnVKx6hb8GYBkz3o01onNsRct2DZvFTCIdwRAfBjJ MuJwuY/7M34ZOqTqiWXqTorGTmcZn786UOzYAC/0HEojTmFr9oELs7pcK5ONuGT6K+ 2IvSa7ms5eBhA== Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7203124296152136842== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit boundary=Apple-Mail-39E0ED4E-9968-4FD1-860C-934EBF02A685 --Apple-Mail-39E0ED4E-9968-4FD1-860C-934EBF02A685 charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Steve, Should be '74 from comm #CF12500. R/ Jeff Durant On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:24 PM, D V wrote: > Later TR6 transmissions starting when? >=20 > Sent from my iPhone >=20 > On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Steve Yott wrote: >=20 >> Just about everything! These are totally different designs. The GT6 is c= losely related to the Spitfire gearbox and the TR6 is the culmination of imp= rovements of the 2000 and TR2 gearboxes. The later TR6 gearboxes are the be= st you can find for reliability as there are a number of modifications avail= able to improve the reliability as long as you stay in the 175 to 200 HP ra= nge. >> =20 >> Steve Yott >> =20 >> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dan griffin >> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:00 PM >> To: fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission >> =20 >> What are the internal differences between a tr6 and a gt6 transmission? >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >>=20 >> http://www.fot-racing.com >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/explore8@ou= tlook.com > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jeff_durant@= comcast.net >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-39E0ED4E-9968-4FD1-860C-934EBF02A685 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Steve,
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Should be '74 from comm #CF12500.
R/
Jeff Durant

On Jun 24, 2015, at 2:24 PM, D V <explore8@outlook.com> wrote:

Later TR6 transmissions starting when?

Sent from my iPhon= e

On Jun 24, 2015, at 1:29 PM, Steve Yott <tr4@wi.rr.com> wrote:

Just about everything!  These are totally different desi= gns.  The GT6 is closely related to the Spitfire gearbox and the TR6 is the culmination of improvements of the 2000 and TR2 gearboxes.  The later T= R6 gearboxes are the best you can find for reliability as there are a number of= modifications available to improve the reliability as long as you  stay= in the 175 to 200 HP range.

 

Steve Yott

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team= .net] On Behalf Of dan griffin
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:00 PM
To: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission

 

What are the internal differences between a tr6 and a gt6 transmission?

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= --Apple-Mail-39E0ED4E-9968-4FD1-860C-934EBF02A685-- --===============7203124296152136842== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============7203124296152136842==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 24 19:18:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 202C52587DEB for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:18:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC8425846FB for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:06:34 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge03 smtp.user=rdavis4@cfl.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:41502] helo=cdptpa-web26) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 4E/BE-19564-7245B855; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 01:06:47 +0000 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 1:06:47 +0000 From: To: fot@autox.team.net, 'dan griffin' , Steve Yott Sensitivity: Normal Thu, 25 Jun 2015 1:06:47 +0000 Subject: Re: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I've heard over the years the Stag 4 speed is the best of the big TR design. It had internal changes to handle the V8 torque. The input shaft is longer so would have to be swapped with the shorter TR 6 shaft. Bob ---- Steve Yott wrote: > Just about everything! These are totally different designs. The GT6 is closely related to the Spitfire gearbox and the TR6 is the culmination of improvements of the 2000 and TR2 gearboxes. The later TR6 gearboxes are the best you can find for reliability as there are a number of modifications available to improve the reliability as long as you stay in the 175 to 200 HP range. > > > > Steve Yott > > > > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dan griffin > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:00 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission > > > > What are the internal differences between a tr6 and a gt6 transmission? > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 24 19:48:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17B02587E80 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:48:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42AAF2587DEF for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:28:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [184.58.130.97] ([184.58.130.97:50460] helo=SteveLaptop) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 45/78-26896-3395B855; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 01:28:20 +0000 From: "Steve Yott" To: , , "'dan griffin'" References: <008701d0aea8$4e631740$eb2945c0$@rr.com> <20150625010647.XCL1C.49938.root@cdptpa-web26> Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 20:28:16 -0500 Thread-Index: AQIMLHIXjuKif5A3tbdSrfpzD5KXU51FcEHQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net I have also read this information and have actually overhauled a number of Stag gearboxes. You are correct in that the input shaft and matching first motion gear have to be changed for the TR series of engines. The lay shaft itself is different in that the lay gear carries two rear bearings and the thrust washers are replaced with needle roller thrust bearings. You could convert a TR box to this type of setup but I really don't feel that it is worth the time. I say this because if you run a modified lay gear with dual rear bearings you will rarely see much wear on the bronze thrust bushings used in the TR box. One of the main reasons for bronze thrust washer wear is when the rear bearing on the lay gear gives up and starts wearing the shaft. The whole lay gear assembly then begins to go off perpendicular and the thrust washers will take the load without a good result. I have had very good success using the CD gearboxes and changing the main shaft gear bushings to the steel variety and also boring the lay gear to accept two rear bearings. This configuration is fairly robust. The latest CF gearbox already has the steel main shaft gear bushings so just the lay gear modification is required plus a good clean overhaul with close attention to all dimensions. Sometime machining is required to get these boxes into spec! Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: rdavis4@cfl.rr.com [mailto:rdavis4@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:07 PM To: fot@autox.team.net; 'dan griffin'; Steve Yott Subject: Re: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission I've heard over the years the Stag 4 speed is the best of the big TR design. It had internal changes to handle the V8 torque. The input shaft is longer so would have to be swapped with the shorter TR 6 shaft. Bob ---- Steve Yott wrote: > Just about everything! These are totally different designs. The GT6 is closely related to the Spitfire gearbox and the TR6 is the culmination of improvements of the 2000 and TR2 gearboxes. The later TR6 gearboxes are the best you can find for reliability as there are a number of modifications available to improve the reliability as long as you stay in the 175 to 200 HP range. > > > > Steve Yott > > > > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dan griffin > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:00 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission > > > > What are the internal differences between a tr6 and a gt6 transmission? > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 24 20:34:05 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02412584A0F for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 20:34:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8EA9325846AA for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 20:31:09 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1435199481; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=i6Ev/5bcA8db6qv34qb72iiPooQPpRc+bD4egTKGHg8RQtnBmBNRzZSGmSB5zvzY/ /b3WPs0YCHks97zp2xw1NAoshRADoA6jkPiKOUWcSN+8xNQX7xMxmgDMzVKwLdtm/5 u9GKUG3W2ynECSorDhRzwgQl/skGQG24FFB7gabs= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail07.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.147]) by smtpout02.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABL2Y39QAENVA2A for (sender ); Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [76.23.185.62] by webmail07.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 02:31:00 GMT From: "Joe Boruch" Full-Name: "Joe Boruch" Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 02:31:00 GMT To: SpiwakD@aol.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Overheated parts Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4501664343105849435== ----__JWM__Jac768ad.cdac901S.769c5b17M Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Same thing happened to me 10 years or so ago. I sent the crank back to = Moldex to be reworked by them. Less time than a new crank, but still to= ok a while. The Carillo rods were toast. Some were twisted. Did not w= ant to risk using them, even if we tried to straighten them. Changed to= Pauter rods, since they are much less expensive. With all the expense = of an engine, it is not worth trying to get by with questionable parts. = Good luck with it. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: SpiwakD@aol.com The oil pump broke in my TR4 and roasted the bearings. The Moldex steel = crank and Carillo rods are not damaged but are now a blue color from bei= ng overheated. The machine shop is wondering if it is ok to use them. Wh= at are FOT thoughts? It takes 6 months to have another crank made. ____________________________________________________________ Want to place your ad here? 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Same thing happened to me 10 years or so ago.  I sent th= e crank back to Moldex to be reworked by them.  Less time than a ne= w crank, but still took a while.  The Carillo rods were toast. &nbs= p;Some were twisted.  Did not want to risk using them, even if we t= ried to straighten them.  Changed to Pauter rods, since they are mu= ch less expensive.  With all the expense of an engine, it is not wo= rth trying to get by with questionable parts.  Good luck with it. &= nbsp;Joe(B)

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The oil pump broke in my TR4 and roasted the = bearings. The Moldex steel crank and Carillo rods are not damaged but ar= e now a blue color from being overheated. The machine shop is wondering = if it is ok to use them. What are FOT thoughts? It takes 6 months to hav= e another crank made.


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www.adsonar.com ----__JWM__Jac768ad.cdac901S.769c5b17M-- --===============4501664343105849435== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4501664343105849435==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 24 20:49:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 535FF2584D8A for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 20:49:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E029625847A5 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 20:39:21 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1435199974; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=Pof3lJE8DeDRwvCj51SQAqqZpRSR83fHdD7kwYAChqiovsmv7QleQ0K1Me3ETSSNL tAl6mRXDZmx1W1lsHJ7xb3eCdgssoZdOSGmzt67YTogzl75/W9C182JrI8l1lkZPqU ZzH4Q7ysdEiJpleNNlqxWcIDtky6GQ3+IZ6bhssA= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail07.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.147]) by smtpout04.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABL2Y4QYAFQW8X2 for (sender ); Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [76.23.185.62] by webmail07.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 02:38:57 GMT From: "Joe Boruch" Full-Name: "Joe Boruch" Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 02:38:57 GMT To: KENMUN@aol.com Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] tr3 clutch stuck Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5076711432153384469== ----__JWM__J26584e5d.de6dc36S.387ee6baM Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Stuck happens. Can try starting it in gear with clutch pedal depressed = (somewhere where you have lots of room). With some help you can try roc= king it back and forth with the pedal depressed. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: KENMUN@aol.com To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] tr3 clutch stuck Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:32:36 -0400 my tr3 race car has been sitting for a while. when i started it, it woul= dn't shift into gear. the clutch seems stuck to the flywheel. the slave = cyl. piston is moving. any ideas? thanks ken m. ____________________________________________________________ Want to place your ad here? Advertise on United Online http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/558b69d63a5d569d61fd9st04duc= ----__JWM__J26584e5d.de6dc36S.387ee6baM Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Stuck happens.  Can try starting it in gear with clutch = pedal depressed (somewhere where you have lots of room).  With some= help you can try rocking it back and forth with the pedal depressed. &n= bsp;Joe(B)

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Subject: [Fot] tr3 clutch stuckDate: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:32:36 -0400

my tr3 race car h= as been sitting for a while. when i started it, it wouldn't shift into g= ear. the clutch seems stuck to the flywheel. the slave cyl. piston is mo= ving. any ideas? thanks ken m.


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www.adsonar.com ----__JWM__J26584e5d.de6dc36S.387ee6baM-- --===============5076711432153384469== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5076711432153384469==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 25 01:36:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E0A25847A5 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 01:36:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from rgout0206.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (rgout0206.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk [65.20.0.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F45F258457F for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 01:22:31 -0600 (MDT) reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 ip=109.155.227.131, rules=__CT, __CTYPE_MULTIPART_ALT, __CTYPE_HAS_BOUNDARY, __CTYPE_MULTIPART, __MIME_VERSION, __BOUNCE_CHALLENGE_SUBJ, __BOUNCE_NDR_SUBJ_EXEMPT, __SUBJ_ALPHA_END, __HAS_FROM, __PHISH_FROM2, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL_FROM, __IN_REP_TO, __MULTIPLE_RCPTS_CC_X2, __HAS_MSGID, __SANE_MSGID, __MSGID_APPLEMAIL, __REFERENCES, __TO_MALFORMED_2, __HAS_X_MAILER, __X_MAILER_APPLEMAIL, MIME_LOWER_CASE, __ANY_URI, URI_ENDS_IN_HTML, __FRAUD_BODY_WEBMAIL, __CP_URI_IN_BODY, __SUBJ_ALPHA_NEGATE, SUPERLONG_LINE, __FORWARDED_MSG, __HAS_HTML, BODY_SIZE_4000_4999, BODYTEXTP_SIZE_3000_LESS, BODYTEXTH_SIZE_10000_LESS, __MIME_HTML, __TAG_EXISTS_HTML, RDNS_GENERIC_POOLED, __URI_NS, SXL_IP_DYNAMIC[131.227.155.109.fur], HTML_50_70, BODY_SIZE_5000_LESS, RDNS_SUSP_GENERIC, __USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL, __PHISH_FROM, MULTIPLE_RCPTS, RDNS_SUSP, __FRAUD_WEBMAIL, BODY_SIZE_7000_LESS, REFERENCES, NO_URI_HTTPS Received: from [192.168.101.128] (109.155.227.131) by rgout02.bt.lon5.cpcloud.co.uk (8.6.122.06) (authenticated as keithfiles@btinternet.com) id 5588CEB8004417BA; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 08:22:37 +0100 s=btcpcloud; t=1435216964; bh=bNMOUnREPLtGZrhioNEa6Nclw1knfo8YrvkDX50zXQk=; h=Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=mvUylT5ku8e8Q8M9u6nUeFuGnBFTM1z1mYt7uSWQBTpsOykl3kD08yo6ttSY5hQcf/2eY48aLBXfSJZXrMWvkpYqAh+hXTyZQ4DzchuMu/0wwbcf4B7xGKNX+l6RC1HMRZYhn/9iV7Jm1PIooCM/6+Xg9QrS/tB3nqH3lfctPzw= From: Keith Files Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 08:22:37 +0100 References: <20150624.223857.32193.1@webmail07.dca.untd.com> To: Joe Boruch Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] tr3 clutch stuck Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2640427907859826231== --Apple-Mail=_63D4AC4B-D632-4A22-8991-5FBF0CDF3DAE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=windows-1252 or you can be a little bit more brutal and tow the race behind a truck = with it in gear until the clutch face frees off - only do this as a last = resort=85 Keith > On 25 Jun 2015, at 03:38, Joe Boruch wrote: >=20 > Stuck happens. Can try starting it in gear with clutch pedal = depressed (somewhere where you have lots of room). With some help you = can try rocking it back and forth with the pedal depressed. Joe(B) >=20 > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: KENMUN@aol.com > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] tr3 clutch stuck > Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:32:36 -0400 >=20 >=20 > my tr3 race car has been sitting for a while. when i started it, it = wouldn't shift into gear. the clutch seems stuck to the flywheel. the = slave cyl. piston is moving. any ideas? thanks ken m. >=20 >=20 > ____________________________________________________________ > Want to place your ad here? > Advertise on United Online > = = www.adsonar.com = = _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/keithfiles@btinternet.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_63D4AC4B-D632-4A22-8991-5FBF0CDF3DAE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=windows-1252 or you can be a little bit more brutal and tow the race = behind a truck with it in gear until the clutch face frees off - only do = this as a last resort=85

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Date: Sun, 21 = Jun 2015 14:32:36 -0400


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= --Apple-Mail=_63D4AC4B-D632-4A22-8991-5FBF0CDF3DAE-- --===============2640427907859826231== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2640427907859826231==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 25 04:38:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764DA2584F16 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 04:38:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from michel.telenet-ops.be (michel.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67DE2584E46 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 04:31:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([IPv6:2a02:1812:d1c:7a00:489b:68e3:2855:d999]) by michel.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id kaXD1q0465S6kg406aXHSJ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:31:17 +0200 From: "Marcel Van Mulders" To: "'Joe Boruch'" References: <20150624.223100.32193.0@webmail07.dca.untd.com> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 12:31:11 +0200 Thread-Index: AdCu73b2GbrkezzkS8SW29z6EPj9pwAQVO/A Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Overheated parts Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0659555744029882010== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01D0AF42.D205C440" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01D0AF42.D205C440 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Take a risk of reusing or not : maybe it depends on how the bearings and bearing surfaces are looking : if bearing material is heat welded on the crankshaft or the crank bearing surfaces are rough, you cannot reassamble the engine like that of course. But if the bearing surfaces are unmarked (except for the colour), why not try and reassemble the engine with new bearings and check after every added bearing and conrod if the crankshaft is rotating without high points? Marcel _____ Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Joe Boruch Verzonden: donderdag 25 juni 2015 4:31 Aan: SpiwakD@aol.com CC: fot@autox.team.net Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Overheated parts Same thing happened to me 10 years or so ago. I sent the crank back to Moldex to be reworked by them. Less time than a new crank, but still took a while. The Carillo rods were toast. Some were twisted. Did not want to risk using them, even if we tried to straighten them. Changed to Pauter rods, since they are much less expensive. With all the expense of an engine, it is not worth trying to get by with questionable parts. Good luck with it. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: SpiwakD@aol.com The oil pump broke in my TR4 and roasted the bearings. The Moldex steel crank and Carillo rods are not damaged but are now a blue color from being overheated. The machine shop is wondering if it is ok to use them. What are FOT thoughts? It takes 6 months to have another crank made. ____________________________________________________________ Want to place your ad here? Advertise on United Online www.adsonar.com ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01D0AF42.D205C440 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Take a risk of reusing or not : maybe it = depends on how=20 the bearings and bearing surfaces are looking : if bearing material = is heat=20 welded on the crankshaft  or the crank bearing surfaces are = rough, you=20 cannot reassamble the engine like that of course. But if the bearing = surfaces=20 are unmarked (except for the colour), why not try and reassemble the = engine with=20 new bearings and check after every added bearing and conrod if the = crankshaft is=20 rotating without high points?
Marcel

Van: Fot = [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net]=20 Namens Joe Boruch
Verzonden: donderdag 25 juni 2015=20 4:31
Aan: SpiwakD@aol.com
CC:=20 fot@autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Overheated=20 parts

Same thing happened to me 10 years or so ago.  I sent the = crank back=20 to Moldex to be reworked by them.  Less time than a new crank, but = still=20 took a while.  The Carillo rods were toast.  Some were = twisted.=20  Did not want to risk using them, even if we tried to straighten = them.=20  Changed to Pauter rods, since they are much less expensive. =  With all=20 the expense of an engine, it is not worth trying to get by with = questionable=20 parts.  Good luck with it.  Joe(B)

---------- Original = Message=20 ----------
From: SpiwakD@aol.com

The oil pump broke in my TR4 and roasted the bearings. The Moldex = steel=20 crank and Carillo rods are not damaged but are now a blue color from = being=20 overheated. The machine shop is wondering if it is ok to use them. What = are FOT=20 thoughts? It takes 6 months to have another crank = made.


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------=_NextPart_000_000F_01D0AF42.D205C440-- --===============0659555744029882010== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0659555744029882010==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 25 05:39:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2922585216 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 05:39:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m09.mx.aol.com (omr-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7F52584E70 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 05:25:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mab02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mab02.mx.aol.com [172.26.249.84]) by omr-m09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 21F05700000B5; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:26:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-lga09d.mail.aol.com (core-lga09.mail.aol.com [10.76.11.9]) by mtaomg-mab02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E381338000084; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:25:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 98.77.32.177 by webprd-a57.mail.aol.com (10.72.52.218) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:25:59 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:25:59 -0400 From: fubog1 To: tr4@wi.rr.com, rdavis4@cfl.rr.com, fot@autox.team.net, dangriffin154@gmail.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20150623; t=1435231560; bh=kAFyXqPFp9SAu2ePUeVkAzj07d1z5N0Wux8FEYQX7tM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GJN4SLjLtTn2UZKII+4vUqjig4emwkJVSncSwRIxXDOa1HaPg8ruK/m/qGkkNehJX HjoplgW99ncN2Dw93B450NPfRMcB6yDUveoOndUHyVjFkNrSofSN2D1yfbIdDgZImT fnjLc+kwjkQuMQpC/ICiglcAcR+lxPtYw504SbCs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1af954558be547077e Subject: Re: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0385905199342969391== boundary="----=_Part_130866_525507958.1435231559785" ------=_Part_130866_525507958.1435231559785 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'll agree with all that Steve has said, with emphasis on this- "closeattention to all dimensions." Clearances and end-float are critical. Glen -----Original Message----- From: Steve Yott To: rdavis4 ; fot ; 'dan griffin' Sent: Wed, Jun 24, 2015 9:57 pm Subject: Re: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission I have also read this information and have actually overhauled a number of Stag gearboxes. You are correct in that the input shaft and matching first motion gear have to be changed for the TR series of engines. The lay shaft itself is different in that the lay gear carries two rear bearings and the thrust washers are replaced with needle roller thrust bearings. You could convert a TR box to this type of setup but I really don't feel that it is worth the time. I say this because if you run a modified lay gear with dual rear bearings you will rarely see much wear on the bronze thrust bushings used in the TR box. One of the main reasons for bronze thrust washer wear is when the rear bearing on the lay gear gives up and starts wearing the shaft. The whole lay gear assembly then begins to go off perpendicular and the thrust washers will take the load without a good result. I have had very good success using the CD gearboxes and changing the main shaft gear bushings to the steel variety and also boring the lay gear to accept two rear bearings. This configuration is fairly robust. The latest CF gearbox already has the steel main shaft gear bushings so just the lay gear modification is required plus a good clean overhaul with close attention to all dimensions. Sometime machining is required to get these boxes into spec! Steve Yott -----Original Message----- From: rdavis4@cfl.rr.com [mailto:rdavis4@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:07 PM To: fot@autox.team.net; 'dan griffin'; Steve Yott Subject: Re: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission I've heard over the years the Stag 4 speed is the best of the big TR design. It had internal changes to handle the V8 torque. The input shaft is longer so would have to be swapped with the shorter TR 6 shaft. Bob ---- Steve Yott wrote: > Just about everything! These are totally different designs. The GT6 is closely related to the Spitfire gearbox and the TR6 is the culmination of improvements of the 2000 and TR2 gearboxes. The later TR6 gearboxes are the best you can find for reliability as there are a number of modifications available to improve the reliability as long as you stay in the 175 to 200 HP range. > > > > Steve Yott > > > > From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dan griffin > Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:00 PM > To: fot@autox.team.net > Subject: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission > > > > What are the internal differences between a tr6 and a gt6 transmission? > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/fubog1@aol.com ------=_Part_130866_525507958.1435231559785 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I'll agree with all that Steve has said, with emphasis on this-

"close attention to all dimensions."

Clearances and end-float are critical.
Glen

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Yott <tr4@wi.rr.com>
To: rdavis4 <rdavis4@cfl.rr.com>; fot <fot@autox.team.net>; 'dan griffin' <dangriffin154@gmail.com>
Sent: Wed, Jun 24, 2015 9:57 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6 transmission

I have also read this information and have actually overhauled a number of Stag
gearboxes.  You are correct in that the input shaft and matching first motion
gear have to be changed for the TR series of engines.  The lay shaft itself is
different in that the lay gear carries two rear bearings and the thrust washers
are replaced with needle roller thrust bearings.  You could convert a TR box to
this type of setup but I really don't feel that it is worth the time.  I say
this because if you run a modified lay gear with dual rear bearings you will
rarely see much wear on the bronze thrust bushings used in the TR box.  One of
the main reasons for bronze thrust washer wear is when the rear bearing on the
lay gear gives up and starts wearing the shaft.  The whole lay gear assembly
then begins to go off perpendicular and the thrust washers will take the load
without a good result.

I have had very good success using the CD gearboxes
and changing the main shaft gear bushings to the steel variety and also boring
the lay gear to accept two rear bearings.  This configuration is fairly robust. 
The latest CF gearbox already has the steel main shaft gear bushings so just the
lay gear modification is required plus a good clean overhaul with close
attention to all dimensions.  Sometime machining is required to get these boxes
into spec!

Steve Yott

-----Original Message-----
From: rdavis4@cfl.rr.com
[mailto:rdavis4@cfl.rr.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 8:07 PM
To:
fot@autox.team.net; 'dan griffin'; Steve Yott
Subject: Re: [Fot] Tr6 and gt6
transmission

I've heard over the years the Stag 4 speed is the best of the
big TR design. It had internal changes to handle the V8 torque. The input shaft
is longer so would have to be swapped with the shorter TR 6 shaft.

Bob


---- Steve Yott <tr4@wi.rr.com> wrote: 
> Just about everything!  These are
totally different designs.  The GT6 is closely related to the Spitfire gearbox
and the TR6 is the culmination of improvements of the 2000 and TR2 gearboxes. 
The later TR6 gearboxes are the best you can find for reliability as there are a
number of modifications available to improve the reliability as long as you 
stay in the 175 to 200 HP range.
> 
>  
> 
> Steve Yott
> 
>  
> 
>
From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dan griffin
> Sent:
Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:00 PM
> To: fot@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Fot]
Tr6 and gt6 transmission
> 
>  
> 
> What are the internal differences
between a tr6 and a gt6 transmission?
>


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Cryotreatment might be something to consider. Were fortunate here in Denver to have a local company that does it at a good = price.

jim g

 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 23, = 2015 3:38 AM
To: SpiwakD@aol.com; fot@autox.team.net
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Wow! = That’s getting a bit scary! 400F or there bouts for = blue.

Would not = have done the steel structure any favors at all!  We are in ‘stress = relieving’ territory for crankshaft materials.

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I would not = be placing a bet on the components if you use them again. Best talk to = Carrillo. Whatever they recommend will go equally as well for the = crank.

You may = find that they are distorted beyond use in any event.

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Subject: [Fot] Overheated = parts

 

The oil pump broke in my TR4 and roasted the bearings. The Moldex steel crank = and Carillo rods are not damaged but are now a blue color from being = overheated. The machine shop is wondering if it is ok to use them. What are FOT = thoughts? It takes 6 months to have another crank = made.

------=_NextPart_000_0087_01D0AF11.00BFD0A0-- --===============3459377283908194001== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3459377283908194001==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 25 07:55:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9471258546E for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:55:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1C42584940 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 07:51:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mcb01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mcb01.mx.aol.com [172.26.50.175]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0C66C70545D8A for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mla05h.mail.aol.com (core-mla05.mail.aol.com [172.27.37.5]) by mtaomg-mcb01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id BD7BA38000085 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:51:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 70.194.130.176 by webprd-a69.mail.aol.com (10.72.57.79) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:51:13 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 09:51:13 -0400 From: billdentin@aol.com To: fot@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20150623; t=1435240274; bh=PF9CZ1NHi1uQrqOVBaRo2C6+Bn5pqRWAaba9H4+Lvvc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Q1i3qL0FzJFlenGO6ZaunV7IgK2ZnU9zdzq2XwNUtp02XjsWGWmWN8P0ssndBjTDD 9edLXFmpnhR3ju/f/XQ3PqqsX0gvuPPXFYbGnj1eEBUFL2kJJtT4ri5FEsdf12n+R5 2lU+ChHDZAk184elMvnZKf2eb1h05m8tWq01Kt3o= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a32af558c0751033f Subject: [Fot] Bob Wismer Memorial youtube video... Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2058483470882427424== boundary="----=_Part_130020_1976518762.1435240273502" ------=_Part_130020_1976518762.1435240273502 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Amici... Recall a few weeks back I reported concerning the very 'classy' Missing Man Ceremonial Lap the Midwestern Council of Sports Car Clubs held in Bob Wismer's honor at Blackhawk Farms Raceway earlier this month. Obviously it was a very emotional experience for me, his race team partner for over thirty years, and the twenty some members of Bob's family who attended the event. Bob's son-in-law, Todd, is a professional (newspaper) photographer. He has put together a short, relative video, just 3 minutes long (+/-). You will hear a short dossier on Bob Wismer, which was read over the track's loud speaker just prior to the playing of the National Anthem, and the start of the day's first feature race. For those interested, and in particular those of you who knew Bob Wismer, I hope the link below will get you to it. https://youtu.be/UNyVCdv8LO8 Here in the Midwest, the Midwestern Council of Sports Car Clubs is a pretty big deal. Sure, they do not get as much 'ink' as the SCCA does, but, in fact, they're older and they have stayed very true to the basic needs of amateur road racers. They've been road racing a long, long time. And as people go...they are "SALT of the earth". None nicer! Bill Dentinger ------=_Part_130020_1976518762.1435240273502 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 
Amici...
 
Recall a few weeks back I reported concerning the very 'classy' Missing Man Ceremonial Lap the Midwestern Council of Sports Car Clubs held in Bob Wismer's honor at Blackhawk Farms Raceway earlier this month. 
 
Obviously it was a very emotional experience for me, his race team partner for over thirty years, and the twenty some members of Bob's family who attended the event.  Bob's son-in-law, Todd, is a professional (newspaper) photographer.  He has put together a short, relative video, just 3 minutes long (+/-).  You will hear a short dossier on Bob Wismer, which was read over the track's loud speaker just prior to the playing of the National Anthem, and the start of the day's first feature race.
 
For those interested, and in particular those of you who knew Bob Wismer, I hope the link below will get you to it. 
 
 
Here in the Midwest, the Midwestern Council of Sports Car Clubs is a pretty big deal.  Sure, they do not get as much 'ink' as the SCCA does, but, in fact, they're older and they have stayed very true to the basic needs of amateur road racers.  They've been road racing a long, long time.  And as people go...they are "SALT of the earth".  None nicer!  
  
Bill Dentinger 
 
 
 
 ------=_Part_130020_1976518762.1435240273502-- --===============2058483470882427424== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2058483470882427424==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 25 08:25:58 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7FEE2587F25 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 08:25:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B09E92584E70 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 08:18:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mcb01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mcb01.mx.aol.com [172.26.50.175]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 427CF705E3123; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 10:18:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mla05h.mail.aol.com (core-mla05.mail.aol.com [172.27.37.5]) by mtaomg-mcb01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1629B38000083; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 10:18:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 70.194.130.176 by webprd-a69.mail.aol.com (10.72.57.79) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 25 Jun 2015 10:18:29 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 10:18:30 -0400 From: billdentin@aol.com To: jaboruch@netzero.net, KENMUN@aol.com References: <20150624.223857.32193.1@webmail07.dca.untd.com> x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20150623; t=1435241910; bh=NJjbvZv20YvT6ShLvTpnkp1XH/gPWo3ELPqTt303qXc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lq4aS8k7tLD8RwpLBe656+ndL800dndZ6cPuw9z5ZDMNpq217VIePkP6fP5eQdq77 krksYOvWc/yPdsVU9nfF+kyoGSDSqkvjDR5wbim4KrKoEh/xt+VHtxCKHCiS/kACeF vXW92bNzWwwbKe0yK/MaFbdI73FBXjeWzGjujix8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a32af558c0db61fb2 Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] tr3 clutch stuck Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5417526316105677144== boundary="----=_Part_130621_446500128.1435241909990" ------=_Part_130621_446500128.1435241909990 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Amici... Fine details elude me right now, but seem's like Kas share a procedure for this with me a long time ago and this happened to my TR3 in the paddock. It was something he had used from time to time when he was still handling the new stock arriving in California from England. I think it involved staging the car against a brick/block or other sturdy wall, and then trying to work the drive train free, using the wall to prevent catastrophe. I never tried it, and quite frankly it struck me as a bit scary...but let's face it...if it was something Kas used...I am sure it worked. I probably have the details bassackward, but maybe Kas will chime in. Bill Dentinger. -----Original Message----- From: Joe Boruch To: KENMUN Cc: fot Sent: Thu, Jun 25, 2015 1:27 am Subject: Re: [Fot] tr3 clutch stuck Stuck happens. Can try starting it in gear with clutch pedal depressed (somewhere where you have lots of room). With some help you can try rocking it back and forth with the pedal depressed. Joe(B) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: KENMUN@aol.com To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] tr3 clutch stuck Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:32:36 -0400 my tr3 race car has been sitting for a while. when i started it, it wouldn't shift into gear. the clutch seems stuck to the flywheel. the slave cyl. piston is moving. any ideas? thanks ken m. ____________________________________________________________ Want to place your ad here? Advertise on United Online www.adsonar.com _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/billdentin@aol.com ------=_Part_130621_446500128.1435241909990 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Amici...
 
Fine details elude me right now, but seem's like Kas share a procedure for this with me a long time ago and this happened to my TR3 in the paddock.  It was something he had used from time to time when he was still handling the new stock arriving in California from England.  I think it involved staging the car against a brick/block or other sturdy wall, and then trying to work the drive train free, using the wall to prevent catastrophe.  I never tried it, and quite frankly it struck me as a bit scary...but let's face it...if it was something Kas used...I am sure it worked.
 
I probably have the details bassackward, but maybe Kas will chime in.
 
Bill Dentinger. 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Boruch <jaboruch@netzero.net>
To: KENMUN <KENMUN@aol.com>
Cc: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, Jun 25, 2015 1:27 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] tr3 clutch stuck

Stuck happens.  Can try starting it in gear with clutch pedal depressed (somewhere where you have lots of room).  With some help you can try rocking it back and forth with the pedal depressed.  Joe(B)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: KENMUN@aol.com
To: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] tr3 clutch stuck
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:32:36 -0400

my tr3 race car has been sitting for a while. when i started it, it wouldn't shift into gear. the clutch seems stuck to the flywheel. the slave cyl. piston is moving. any ideas? thanks ken m.


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Money=C2=A0is the question, along with time. Money to repl= ace and time until you need the engine to race. If, as Marcel has mentioned= , the bearing surfaces are okay and the parts still measure out properly=C2= =A0then to me it hard to imagine that a blue BILLET STEEL=C2=A0crank and BI= LLET STEEL rods will not still be a lot better than the=C2=A0stock crank an= d stock rods which=C2=A0may also be=C2=A0suspect. Measure this chance again= st any alternative you have.

Never be beaten by equipment.

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Yes, the stuck clutch happened a lot on the new TR-3 cars = just off the ship.=C2=A0 They did have wood bumpers to protect the front of= the cars during shipping.=C2=A0 We would just roll=C2=A0the car=C2=A0up to= a brick wall or telephone pole=C2=A0that was handy, put the foot on the cl= utch pedal=C2=A0and hit the starter.=C2=A0 Worked every time and saved pull= ing the gearbox.

Never be bea= ten by equipment.


On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 7:18 AM, <billde= ntin@aol.com> wrote:
Amici...
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Fine details elude me right now, but seem's like Kas share a proce= dure for this with me a long time ago and this happened to my TR3 in the pa= ddock.=C2=A0 It was something he had used from time to time when he was sti= ll handling the new stock arriving in California from England.=C2=A0 I thin= k it involved staging the car against a brick/block or other sturdy wall, a= nd then trying to work the drive train free, using the wall to prevent cata= strophe.=C2=A0 I never tried it, and quite frankly it struck me as a bit sc= ary...but let's face it...if it was something Kas used...I am sure it w= orked.
=C2=A0
I probably have the details bassackward, but maybe Kas will chime in.<= /div>
=C2=A0
Bill Dentinger.=C2=A0
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To: KENMUN <KENMUN@aol.com>
Cc: fot <fot@autox.team.net>= ;
Sent: Thu, Jun 25, 2015 1:27 am
Subject: Re: [Fot] tr3 clutch stuck

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Stuck happens.=C2=A0 Can try starting it in gear with clutch pedal depresse= d (somewhere where you have lots of room).=C2=A0 With some help you can try= rocking it back and forth with the pedal depressed.=C2=A0 Joe(B)

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To: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] tr3 clutch stuck
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2015 14:32:36 -0400

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my tr3 race car has been sitting for a while. when i started it, it wouldn&= #39;t shift into gear. the clutch seems stuck to the flywheel. the slave cy= l. piston is moving. any ideas? thanks ken m.
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--001a11c3da106e40b20519591a03-- --===============3247005715289400299== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3247005715289400299==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 26 09:31:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3F32585A54 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 09:31:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f178.google.com (mail-ie0-f178.google.com [209.85.223.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7D972584EE1 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 09:31:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iebmu5 with SMTP id mu5so77901270ieb.1 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 08:31:39 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:thread-index:content-language; bh=c85ctE4rUZG4e4IXOWuYYGduXzDuK+hPuhPbAHlmd7A=; b=QSs8YnRhpUU3iTv+GXtZZbu8Wuyg0XLcNWo7+M4vsbqJraLh2z0CxmbAe+nKegs4uv ZZsZengNg8TzaY7i1WidPlcuW0qoMag1WC7xklERAuKbOzWHB5eef7R/YqZHiM5pwvEI vE5q5rjuwrDChDzFto2uzr9krf226sWiE/H7NzqdpodqGHp80gf+T0Q7Oouc3FjNvJhR 8UV5QVPYNrSDp5NcrvWkwbpxTg/ed9vCkrOuZZCq+7UDlqKrIRbwzQ2lHW0KHJIXtVIb oUt1XJOTaf4NfknEjRCUiVo/rfI1iqlabxT9hf/OpbOvUpT22IwJBO518geipfj/3XdT yr9w== Fri, 26 Jun 2015 08:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SnookPC (cpe-71-72-104-70.columbus.res.rr.com. [71.72.104.70]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 196sm21831212ioe.23.2015.06.26.08.31.38 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 26 Jun 2015 08:31:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jeff Snook" To: Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 11:31:21 -0400 Thread-Index: AdCwJSc23dHHR0cHTY+acbg0Bm+q/A== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Fot] Bill Babcock Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Bill if you are out there, please shoot me an email. Looking at a TR3 from Monte Shelton in Portland, says he knows you. Thanks, Jeff Snook http://www.snooksdreamcars.com 419-344-0319 (Mobile) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 26 12:18:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CCD92585C4A for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 12:18:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB4F2587DD5 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 12:08:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([71.116.26.215]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NQK001NPD2SI2A0@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 13:08:53 -0500 (CDT) a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=8A7brI4kjU8C6ETGAX3PRdgeao0=:19 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=IJ9pWlWUkYEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=XAFQembCKUMA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=P29MqJxZAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=RhkfpWF-0k1lCBri2c8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=CKWd9ZXVIlYA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Jeff Snook" , References: <007801d0b025$27e85340$77b8f9c0$@com> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:08:53 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Bill Babcock Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Jeff, the Monty Shelton who used to race Can Am cars? How's Mid Ohio? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Snook" To: Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 11:31 AM Subject: [Fot] Bill Babcock > Bill if you are out there, please shoot me an email. Looking at a TR3 > from > Monte Shelton in Portland, says he knows you. > > Thanks, > > Jeff Snook > http://www.snooksdreamcars.com > 419-344-0319 (Mobile) > > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 26 15:51:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A782825805A6 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 15:51:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from aso-006-i441.relay.mailchannels.net (aso-006-i441.relay.mailchannels.net [23.91.64.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516392580214 for ; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 15:51:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from s15-dallas.accountservergroup.com (ip-10-220-9-73.us-west-2.compute.internal [10.220.9.73]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9319B1D05AF; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 21:51:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from s15-dallas.accountservergroup.com (s15-dallas.accountservergroup.com [10.232.141.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.5.1); Fri, 26 Jun 2015 21:51:57 +0000 Received: from ppp183-206.broadband.gorge.net ([209.216.183.206]:52708 helo=[192.168.1.105]) by s15-dallas.accountservergroup.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1Z8bXQ-000BGd-2z; Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:51:56 -0500 From: Bill Babcock Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:51:53 -0700 References: <007801d0b025$27e85340$77b8f9c0$@com> To: Jeff Snook Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] Bill Babcock Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8633925549757229774== --Apple-Mail=_8E472873-779A-4900-8547-A10237CA08A2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=us-ascii Hi Jeff,=20 Sure, I know Monte. How can I help you?=20 Bill > On Jun 26, 2015, at 8:31 AM, Jeff Snook wrote: >=20 > Bill if you are out there, please shoot me an email. Looking at a TR3 = from > Monte Shelton in Portland, says he knows you. >=20 > Thanks, >=20 > Jeff Snook > http://www.snooksdreamcars.com > 419-344-0319 (Mobile) >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill@ponostyle.com >=20 >=20 Bill Babcock Bill@ponostyle.com Editor: Ponostyle Celebrating Water Editor: Xtreme Geezer Fitness and Fun After Forty 503.936.7660 http://www.PonoStyle.com http://www.Xgeez.com --Apple-Mail=_8E472873-779A-4900-8547-A10237CA08A2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=us-ascii Hi Jeff, 
Sure, I know Monte. How can I = help you? 
Bill
On Jun = 26, 2015, at 8:31 AM, Jeff Snook <jeffsnook01@gmail.com> wrote:

Bill if you are out = there, please shoot me an email.  Looking at a TR3 from
Monte Shelton in Portland, says he knows you.
Thanks,

Jeff Snook
http://www.snooksdreamcars.com
419-344-0319 = (Mobile)


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= --Apple-Mail=_8E472873-779A-4900-8547-A10237CA08A2-- --===============8633925549757229774== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8633925549757229774==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 27 10:13:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23CC52589B5C for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 10:13:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm20-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm20-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADF2258797B for ; Sat, 27 Jun 2015 10:09:52 -0600 (MDT) t=1435421406; bh=HqXh6hZy8tVoNl/HIu1WUhLNCu0UcdG0DN+6hpQ2Fkk=; h=To:From:Subject:Date:From:Subject; b=gAzX/+CJaWpiIBRWf2TDkpNA6kMHThTH7vQ9jjh/EmArGydJuWNMcLNWqzMUtr/ihccP6LiIZkMCbxbFEkIbbD9Pj3kmEl4+fyhS93UfXhZxSpirox9XsqwuP1XI58/UI8O7kkxPdeYZUXQ/cRGozUkQbj4xHK3GcEfWeVUAZb82fFaZ/3rYyyR8q8HOZe2dPEm2SU4TV8tJPk18SDxzTb+tOfK5XpsfIGc1PGeNDAI8uxQ1jAIFtmqOfH3UMpQ2RgAjuXG8QpaMr/+UtyRf4CQp/G08FopyYkJAoLBCaxpv2rbDhvqJs4EEsYUU729Zvlf4RHP+t2WPl1EJqNtGpg== Received: from [98.138.100.114] by nm20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jun 2015 16:10:06 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.58] by tm105.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jun 2015 16:10:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp209.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jun 2015 16:10:06 -0000 7sM95yUaF37wavOYPkyQT3_BT4yBettKxDuW4cL9.6YX3LzgDdfEPTLuilWb 2hc7tS5dWzURGNGKRxo67biI_kGTT6DcUAJ3TJyNc5YmnSmXFnY02SBBQArb 0s.Ez2v0RUsoidQlF9t_Jrb0uKgYQXGGbapxZ0_PJrgIrRgckIgMa.7BOvjz o6GYIjS0HoBu4zww0T4q8rXkvKTE2YsfBSqIxpvPgrI0mduW5gRjC_jIKrpX 0JmsUI__hr1hXsOwQQchr2Fly1pAVklYvkXA1OVhogsTVwuXAVKPP3rUceMc 6lP7RWb8V6iNMuwQWA.4dMhUzbDxcvbKGtlwTmd.IIzuxR9zH78BmgosD9NE xmpvdDKo20vTkfSbjt1tVMSTyZa.Ugd.qemtDHUFOBiORRXnej_j7VknLaIJ HqGZAnGXLOfksYqhAD249OWYvsNlnleGFN3cItIGdLF6rpPdYjt4EkhfPWQu _GkiweGsFE7kJWTrgse_EqUMYpEYufMJ8erKGkiXBF9e6 To: FOT list From: Brian Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 12:09:34 -0400 Subject: [Fot] Spitfire steering shims Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7237306552622132482== boundary="_6C1065C3-21E4-4959-948E-A2CEAEE7C062_" --_6C1065C3-21E4-4959-948E-A2CEAEE7C062_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone have a source for steering rack shims on the tie rod ball/socket? Thanks, Brian --_6C1065C3-21E4-4959-948E-A2CEAEE7C062_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Anyone have a source for steering rack shims on th= e tie rod ball/socket?
Thanks, Brian
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Hi All.
=C2=A0 I=C2=A0 finally put the fron= t end back together=C2=A0went for a spin and blew up a rear halfshaft U joi= nt (inner).=C2=A0 So now=C2=A0it's time to improve the=C2=A0rear axles.= .. I would love to hear what GT6 rs=C2=A0 are doing to improve the rear axl= es. I have heard CV joints are the hot item but just not sure what parts ar= e being used or where to find them. I have considered TR 4A-6 rear axles al= so. Any suggestions??
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Thanks. PJ
--089e0111c016a87d2305198d10fd-- --===============8506418326793961059== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8506418326793961059==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 28 17:55:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF6A2584715 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:55:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm35-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm35-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.216.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8BE25804B5 for ; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:49:41 -0600 (MDT) t=1435535396; bh=SabDuBwiLaLDpPOpEnh0TkwjPbrAmv4B6AZVoFLc7gM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=Woe31dmM4H2p1K/KlRteR1Jjk7nJ16yvORkRQF3+U58RxAetMILETKe8bskzHoGtps+8Mjj03pJ/Qi05Y6lRe5RHhpWreeh+gp0WoieZCAvRafJIHHTtF3BRPfQc39sh70rN8qhluxrD9jPPoYFMSmMOTeGXvxxa13sYodR+9de0GfF8MF7KJBuudLoBBXR1Ul6ijpgMh/9dbsjjOVaUegLiimEhhUZdoWj6fsjTx0WYg/gh9DRlWU0+6qzwu6CEsznDvsa62didWh0T693X8PJhLrYtxSnKjpJkBmYnKmL0QCRjKRidqgebhdTMll4bdx1y8aKFAIWvXTUuJTWk7Q== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm35.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jun 2015 23:49:56 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.190] by nm35.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jun 2015 23:46:56 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.217] by tm11.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jun 2015 23:46:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jun 2015 23:46:56 -0000 tZ7QMeEOMp0rsF29idCfrBvoZ61vBDtwz9jrEhmo9eVUe3xBg3KWMFiKUnF5PYXmwo6t_N8F0GBP YH14UwdE.zQA.GTm_8T6aRtOQR0HGG.3COMQefJdwfAyvQrl2_QnPnZz_dfH2Xlbo03uK.MdSBC0 _y8V_Lni97YCF2mSGgJEnz..ufiPdLGIOheKBlXAOl9JP_ggh.mbCKo3p0B4Wt_TLhbZ56TGeE2A PF44mN349GUBKzJc2MsWoLX52BcZryAbL3wPUDk8.qgystz4RFqDZyKWG7NW6p9YmM9OqVxAF0Wy yUWs2eTWwB5HWhulTAJnG2hbDM5_36mcf8lhchr0fMYeF1ftkJL8Xz0fW5.6k2I8lp_OpKaxJ9sD gLcZdeP0XXtDtFwZe3UKTzSv93YA6ZaMJFZSLmh.siVxU4a1rCW8ZbX375APfvKhE_28rWOTtb6V cA9Vd5nxz400QaNMSe4wG Received: by 98.137.12.248; Sun, 28 Jun 2015 23:46:55 +0000 Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 23:46:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Brian Schirano To: McKearn McKearn , "fot@autox.team.net" References: Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4118812422868143713== boundary="----=_Part_691142_903138847.1435535215620" ------=_Part_691142_903138847.1435535215620 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Myself with a GT6 and a buddy with a Spit have these axles from Joe Siam Ch= equred Flag out in Ca, http://www.chequeredflagracing.net/Custom_Parts.php.= =20 =C2=A0=C2=A026A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell=C2=A0 BSchirano@yahoo.com From: McKearn McKearn To: fot@autox.team.net=20 Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 1:15 AM Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear axles =20 Hi All.=C2=A0 I=C2=A0 finally put the front end back together=C2=A0went for= a spin and blew up a rear halfshaft U joint (inner).=C2=A0 So now=C2=A0it'= s time to improve the=C2=A0rear axles... I would love to hear what GT6 rs= =C2=A0 are doing to improve the rear axles. I have heard CV joints are the = hot item but just not sure what parts are being used or where to find them.= I have considered TR 4A-6 rear axles also. Any suggestions??=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Thanks. PJ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive oo.com ------=_Part_691142_903138847.1435535215620 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Myself with a GT6 and a buddy with a Spit have t= hese axles from Joe Siam Chequred Flag out in Ca, http://www.chequeredflagracing.net/Custom_Parts.php.
 
 
26A = GT6+, 28 TR6
Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell 
BSchirano@ya= hoo.com

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F= rom: McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.com>
To: fot@autox.team.net
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 1:15 AM<= br> Subject: [Fot] GT= 6 rear axles

Hi All.
  = I  finally put the front end back together went for a spin and bl= ew up a rear halfshaft U joint (inner).  So now it's time to impr= ove the rear axles... I would love to hear what GT6 rs  are doing= to improve the rear axles. I have heard CV joints are the hot item but jus= t not sure what parts are being used or where to find them. I have consider= ed TR 4A-6 rear axles also. Any suggestions??
   &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;         Thanks. PJ

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[216.51.203.118]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o19sm4256044igs.18.2015.06.28.17.36.35 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 28 Jun 2015 17:36:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe Alexander Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 19:36:31 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 DVD. By John Clancy Production Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net FOT, Just a reminder: $25 to my PayPal Account. N197tr4@cs.com. (For John Clancy) Or a check below. Joe Alexander 645 1st Street Jesup, IA 50648 The-vintage-racer.com Gasketinnovations.com Cell: 319.464.4711 Great reviews are coming in on the DVD, including Triumph World magazine in the UK. My supply is almost exhausted but another batch is coming from the UK. All monies go to John Clancy. If you are interested in any other of his DVDs, ask, and I will try to get them to you. Triumphdvd.uk.co Joe _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 29 06:50:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10D8C2584855 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 06:50:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com (h69-129-70-242.applwi.dedicated.static.tds.net [69.129.70.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7F9258061B for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 06:50:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::2819:d35:6942:b765]) by SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com ([fe80::2819:d35:6942:b765%15]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 07:50:48 -0500 From: "Barr, Scott" To: Brian Schirano , McKearn McKearn , "fot@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Fot] GT6 rear axles Thread-Index: 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_______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2795505753005681247==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 29 07:12:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54E41258513D for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 07:12:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com (mail-ie0-f172.google.com [209.85.223.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7312A258507D for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 07:07:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iecvh10 with SMTP id vh10so114506798iec.3 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 06:07:57 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ue5PpJgPnZh+KvsVPEiwS6v0HDOMvKF6o2RB0gtvl2U=; b=tj4KzgpX0g3SVpelwDWMnAMf7URvBYzl5QkUY4gCosVMufmFweVO+L1YV2w4B/wgB9 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My GT6 has the stock rotoflex rear axles and 3.27 rear end. P.J. On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Barr, Scott wrote: > Wait, what? You=E2=80=99ve put swing axles on your GT6+? That seems li= ke going > in the wrong direction. > > > > Scott B. > > > > *From:* Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Brian > Schirano > *Sent:* Sunday, June 28, 2015 6:47 PM > *To:* McKearn McKearn; fot@autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles > > > > Myself with a GT6 and a buddy with a Spit have these axles from Joe Siam > Chequred Flag out in Ca, http://www.chequeredflagracing.net/Custom_Parts.= php. > > > > > > > > 26A GT6+, 28 TR6 > > Brian Schirano > 585-305-0349 Cell > BSchirano@yahoo.com > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* McKearn McKearn > *To:* fot@autox.team.net > *Sent:* Sunday, June 28, 2015 1:15 AM > *Subject:* [Fot] GT6 rear axles > > > > Hi All. > > I finally put the front end back together went for a spin and blew up = a > rear halfshaft U joint (inner). So now it's time to improve the rear > axles... I would love to hear what GT6 rs are doing to improve the rear > axles. I have heard CV joints are the hot item but just not sure what par= ts > are being used or where to find them. I have considered TR 4A-6 rear axle= s > also. Any suggestions?? > > Thanks. PJ > > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano@yahoo.com > > > > --001a113ed82a48fbda0519a7c78b Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi.
=C2=A0My GT6 has the stock rotoflex re= ar axles and 3.27 rear end.
=C2=A0 P.J.
=C2=A0

On Mon, Jun 29= , 2015 at 7:50 AM, Barr, Scott <sbarr@mccarty-law.com> w= rote:

Wait, what?=C2=A0 You=E2=80=99ve= put swing axles on your GT6+?=C2=A0 That seems like going in the wrong dir= ection.

=C2=A0

Scott B.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Schirano
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 6:47 PM
To: McKearn McKearn; fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles

=C2=A0

Myself with a GT6 and a buddy= with a Spit have these axles from Joe Siam Chequred Flag out in Ca, http://www.chequeredflagracing.net/Custom_Parts.php.

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

26A GT6+, 28 TR6

Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell=C2=A0
BSchirano@yahoo.co= m

=C2=A0

From:<= /b> McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.com>
To: fot@auto= x.team.net
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 1:15 AM
Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear axles

=C2=A0=

Hi All.

=C2=A0 I=C2=A0 finally put = the front end back together=C2=A0went for a spin and blew up a rear halfsha= ft U joint (inner).=C2=A0 So now=C2=A0it's time to improve the=C2=A0rea= r axles... I would love to hear what GT6 rs=C2=A0 are doing to improve the rear axles= . I have heard CV joints are the hot item but just not sure what parts are = being used or where to find them. I have considered TR 4A-6 rear axles also= . Any suggestions??

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Thanks. PJ<= /p>


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--001a113ed82a48fbda0519a7c78b-- --===============5322009090255369849== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5322009090255369849==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 29 07:13:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 150AF258579A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 07:13:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.177.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF22E258507D for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 07:08:07 -0600 (MDT) t=1435583303; bh=YH5JqVOd2I4QGDKcGkl9C5mYT9WmvHhNIxlSWDNM8KA=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=MIerDVAdo6bZt5ebwJBBwQWjzQqgiZKGKRa4pbPp99mLh4D8P+01Mhrsrf06YUPrPQaHCdt2vqGZ+f0k/Ab6R/BpOttaaFY3cUw3ty+S2vmvhewZ9LYBnKg9L/arZ1FfZ1FywZ9kP5EjiBGHXzImJ3CPp/g1vg0POoch5c8UmUWudJoDJmx/6BIrUK7ZLMCQOSnuNzK0p8kuGCooujm4lc+1t7PDPAj3dRqLT+lA3CIkj1FI8tV68O0QC6dYF0Oav6OUuHT5Va4BrV6LzCyc2LECQnG7L7gsdp70OIQYbMGNhKiC+SGaZvNhq75EPkSdw1sbpuV49bijOUKpZVzceQ== Received: from [216.39.60.182] by nm17.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jun 2015 13:08:23 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.196] by tm18.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jun 2015 13:08:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jun 2015 13:08:23 -0000 E.A9AYVDR.G6PS_XDt6OlLER84M7MSCYLjmiFT8ubkE7nkCx1dnWIIlwKkvdk4CNUDxuP3uyE3Ia yV37oyKsmZ_X8c2ciiK0jmdB9OL7ixVvrkXZiwBMAF5utlm9Z_KjwvfxcZSAx7PKPfrlA9oubVG4 92uoXptThS_5U6gVMxLv3cUAhK7S_pW4WNazSn9fRjL4Ak2ek1RyDT2lWDiLKizxIUBQfm1QHIu4 DF8c_OrxyBMSebYbNfcinchPtdKQ.nyHEax.yr_NfCeQrc00J_8lKESg6TtRjakCSy2H3UU8HqIv nJ3LOYjkZ1jwNu6NJR1M0.WaXhwFUdnJ.CITrPwzjRkI0EYKepH482RwLpG0kTlUlx50mlCqLaV9 Xud43ezmFaxGMl064ucYTfpqsza9fkokbtF7t9qCIlN5fueZnzYUcBV67S05qPAe.2QIPT2WIXGh cMmMp5Pid6g-- Received: by 98.137.12.54; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:08:22 +0000 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:08:22 +0000 (UTC) From: Brian Schirano To: "Barr, Scott" , McKearn McKearn , "fot@autox.team.net" References: <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50BA7326D@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4301112050614619305== boundary="----=_Part_819926_1306268808.1435583302218" ------=_Part_819926_1306268808.1435583302218 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Previous guy installed them and lowered the car correctly, no problems, so = I just installed uprated ones (after stock ones snapped at the hubs!). I th= ink I'd rather have the original set up and go with CVs / Corvair or Datsun= axles, where I've read you can then have adjustable camber (or so I read).= =C2=A0=C2=A026A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell=C2=A0 BSchirano@yahoo.com From: "Barr, Scott" To: Brian Schirano ; McKearn McKearn ; "fot@autox.team.net" =20 Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 8:50 AM Subject: RE: [Fot] GT6 rear axles =20 #yiv9711778945 #yiv9711778945 -- _filtered #yiv9711778945 {font-family:Helv= etica;panose-1:2 11 6 4 2 2 2 2 2 4;} _filtered #yiv9711778945 {panose-1:2 = 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv9711778945 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:= 2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv9711778945 {font-family:Verdana;panose= -1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv9711778945 #yiv9711778945 p.yiv9711778945MsoNo= rmal, #yiv9711778945 li.yiv9711778945MsoNormal, #yiv9711778945 div.yiv97117= 78945MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv9711= 778945 a:link, #yiv9711778945 span.yiv9711778945MsoHyperlink {color:blue;te= xt-decoration:underline;}#yiv9711778945 a:visited, #yiv9711778945 span.yiv9= 711778945MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv= 9711778945 span.yiv9711778945EmailStyle17 {color:#1F497D;}#yiv9711778945 .y= iv9711778945MsoChpDefault {font-size:10.0pt;} _filtered #yiv9711778945 {mar= gin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv9711778945 div.yiv9711778945WordSection1 {= }#yiv9711778945 Wait, what?=C2=A0 You=E2=80=99ve put swing axles on your GT= 6+?=C2=A0 That seems like going in the wrong direction. =C2=A0 Scott B.=C2= =A0 =C2=A0=20 From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Brian Schirano Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 6:47 PM To: McKearn McKearn; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles =C2=A0 Myself with a GT6 and a buddy wit= h a Spit have these axles from Joe Siam Chequred Flag out in Ca,http://www.= chequeredflagracing.net/Custom_Parts.php.=20 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 26A GT6+, 28 TR6 Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell=C2=A0 BSchirano@yahoo.com =C2=A0 From: McKearn McKearn To: fot@autox.team.net=20 Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 1:15 AM Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear axles =C2=A0 Hi All. =C2=A0 I=C2=A0 finally put th= e front end back together=C2=A0went for a spin and blew up a rear halfshaft= U joint (inner).=C2=A0 So now=C2=A0it's time to improve the=C2=A0rear axle= s... I would love to hear what GT6 rs=C2=A0 are doing to improve the rear a= xles. I have heard CV joints are the hot item but just not sure what parts = are being used or where to find them. I have considered TR 4A-6 rear axles = also. Any suggestions?? =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Thanks. PJ=20 _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive oo.com =20 ------=_Part_819926_1306268808.1435583302218 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Previous guy installed them and lowered the car correctly, no= problems, so I just installed uprated ones (after stock ones snapped at th= e hubs!). I think I'd rather have the original set up and go with CVs / Cor= vair or Datsun axles, where I've read you can then have adjustable camber (= or so I read). 
 
26A GT6+, 28 TR6
Br= ian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell 
BSchirano@yahoo.com

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From: "Barr,= Scott" <sbarr@McCarty-Law.com>
To: Brian Schirano <bschirano@yahoo.com>; McKearn McK= earn <mckearn2@gmail.com>; "fot@autox.team.net" <fot@autox.team.ne= t>
Sent: Monday, J= une 29, 2015 8:50 AM
Subject: RE: [Fot] GT6 rear axles

= Wait, what?  You=E2=80=99ve put swing axles on your GT6+?  That s= eems like going in the wrong direction.
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From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounc= es@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Schirano
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 6:47 PM
To: McKearn McKearn; fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles
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Myself with a GT6 and a buddy with a Spit have these axles from = Joe Siam Chequred Flag out in Ca, http://www.chequeredflagracing.net/Custom_Parts.php.
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26A GT6+, 28 TR6
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Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell 
BSchirano@yahoo.com
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From:= McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.com>
To: fot@autox.team.net
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 1= :15 AM
Subject: [Fot] = GT6 rear axles
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Hi All.
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  I  finally put the front end back together went= for a spin and blew up a rear halfshaft U joint (inner).  So now = ;it's time to improve the rear axles... I would love to hear what GT6 rs  are doing to improve the rear axles= . I have heard CV joints are the hot item but just not sure what parts are = being used or where to find them. I have considered TR 4A-6 rear axles also= . Any suggestions??
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           &= nbsp;           &nbs= p; Thanks. PJ
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------=_Part_819926_1306268808.1435583302218-- --===============4301112050614619305== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4301112050614619305==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 29 07:14:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D05E7258606A for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 07:14:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm9.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm9.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.177.233]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB20258507D for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 07:09:46 -0600 (MDT) t=1435583401; bh=U/AfteunXxRwuFIyJDFFjs6SL7cYQ1bO9qSai/vcPgs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=hgHK/JO3EJGHfReri8hLE0S9pvuzbUAFLbfrNmr1AoGpH3SJBwVfOVnY9Wrf5SCKRTFaXS/UVWBERCGGko6uP+qsgL685SHLJyLxkBSqsta3d6Z1vRUQ5QlegxKQMOhFnjaW5UdyIxItie+ofh9CpP6Icapt3Ssb+BeeI3Br0qbsXMLbyuJt9ks4Gm8GhyHwht08AvpmaqGCdmPmB5X0IYToNfmV7W5TVNWso1q8WIFH6qilVdGUF6QrDpiJJ51rU+h21zceb31o1T1rHgLGKhsnvk0MSoENOQVN0C6I+Bf7UlASkoif8UgXTCydRt+ynbQ9Fx1qL+D5Id8QuXidSw== Received: from [98.137.12.60] by nm17.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jun 2015 13:10:01 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.211] by tm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jun 2015 13:10:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jun 2015 13:10:01 -0000 406QGQo7CTZvnJcH_8lJJR70sHbx03rHLfnqcrIMbI.pbVEk6KsZFHdywm5UngJfNvJlM1Kjuqo3 kaPrD8OMabz2cFZfAgHuJKKU3A4VnQZxOYzYd0ZUWB7ioaeH7QCobg9TLlM1tFvx9Y4.nzqkeEkd WAA7KTNGLiZjsbdo_FsCE3jkb1.sEIBX6X5d86VMEZe2zmB13EP_m8cOw51nh9LPUbYGMadoApTO F3N4Y5MMEA7BsfOFO4TlV_.SO1ugT70oEkrAeg4o.Eovrub4qWX9PxSVYqfulszQM0n4XcTHaUFy DeKZvyppw2NmTDlwPrrskmtjOAybt.r4rEGIP4mz3DeCbnf.r8K384ZQdgsEGM1BU8aeEUwQqVU3 Tg8iICQdJZIudbqOw4SqCdVDD2yxBvPq9cMzdU.q1A2BWsdpO5fHOL2KrCiKeAdNeG9T9CwYkgGr aT7M9HwHCew-- Received: by 98.137.12.51; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:10:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:09:56 +0000 (UTC) From: Brian Schirano To: McKearn McKearn , "Barr, Scott" References: Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5898724769697320713== boundary="----=_Part_836269_1586544809.1435583396658" ------=_Part_836269_1586544809.1435583396658 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable beware if racing, see my previous message re snapping off at the hubs=C2=A0= 26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell=C2=A0 BSchirano@yahoo.com From: McKearn McKearn To: "Barr, Scott" =20 Cc: Brian Schirano ; "fot@autox.team.net" =20 Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles =20 Hi. =C2=A0My GT6 has the stock rotoflex rear axles and 3.27 rear end.=C2=A0= P.J.=C2=A0 On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Barr, Scott wrote: Wait, what?=C2=A0 You=E2=80=99ve put swing axles on your GT6+?=C2=A0 That s= eems like going in the wrong direction.=C2=A0Scott B.=C2=A0=C2=A0From: Fot = [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Brian Schirano Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 6:47 PM To: McKearn McKearn; fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles=C2=A0Myself with a GT6 and a buddy with a= Spit have these axles from Joe Siam Chequred Flag out in Ca,http://www.che= queredflagracing.net/Custom_Parts.php.=20 =C2=A0=C2=A026A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano 585-305-0349 Cell=C2=A0 BSchirano@yahoo.com=C2=A0From: McKearn McKearn To: fot@autox.team.net=20 Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 1:15 AM Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear axles=C2=A0Hi All.=C2=A0 I=C2=A0 finally put the fr= ont end back together=C2=A0went for a spin and blew up a rear halfshaft U j= oint (inner).=C2=A0 So now=C2=A0it's time to improve the=C2=A0rear axles...= I would love to hear what GT6 rs=C2=A0 are doing to improve the rear axles= . I have heard CV joints are the hot item but just not sure what parts are = being used or where to find them. I have considered TR 4A-6 rear axles also= . Any suggestions??=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Thanks. PJ _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive oo.com ------=_Part_836269_1586544809.1435583396658 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
bewa= re if racing, see my previous message re snapping off at the hubs
 
26A GT6+, 28 TR6
Brian Schirano
585-305= -0349 Cell 
BSchirano@yahoo.com

From:<= /b> McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.com>
To: "Barr, Scott" <sbarr@mccarty-law.com> Cc: Brian Schirano <b= schirano@yahoo.com>; "fot@autox.team.net" <fot@autox.team.net> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2= 015 9:07 AM
Subject: R= e: [Fot] GT6 rear axles

Hi.
 My GT6 has the stock rotoflex rear axles and 3.27 rear end.
  P.J.
 



On= Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Barr, Scott <sbarr@mccarty-law.com>= ; wrote:
Wait, what?  You=E2=80=99ve pu= t swing axles on your GT6+?  That seems like going in the wrong direct= ion.
 
Scott B. 
 
From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Schirano
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 6:47 PM
To: McKearn McKearn; fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear a= xles
 
Myself with a GT6 and a buddy with a Spit have these= axles from Joe Siam Chequred Flag out in Ca, http://www.chequeredflagracing.net/Custom_Parts.php.
 =
 
26A GT6+, 28 TR6
Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell 
BSchirano@yahoo.com
 
From: McKear= n McKearn <mckearn2@g= mail.com>
To: fot@autox.tea= m.net
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 1:15 AM
Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear axles=
 
Hi All.
  I  finally put the front end back together&= nbsp;went for a spin and blew up a rear halfshaft U joint (inner).  So= now it's time to improve the rear axles... I would love to hear what GT6 rs  are doing to improve the rear axles= . I have heard CV joints are the hot item but just not sure what parts are = being used or where to find them. I have considered TR 4A-6 rear axles also= . Any suggestions??
         &= nbsp;           &nbs= p;   Thanks. PJ

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------=_Part_836269_1586544809.1435583396658-- --===============5898724769697320713== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5898724769697320713==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 29 07:29:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D95E52586317 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 07:29:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f174.google.com (mail-ie0-f174.google.com [209.85.223.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A392585971 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 07:28:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iecuq6 with SMTP id uq6so15535441iec.2 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 06:28:25 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=qdTEFW0HMggKZsO2lgSFf+9qWFfODVwMQJOdCbVlWZY=; b=KrJN7LExAsl3K2xpXI8k79orklKp9dt3r+gq8CqaJNRu5BadZurlnT4kqfSzNr4HYH d8FDL9ZfuOZ2trRlgHPaS3E+dzRvmiYtCK5+JuvpNXNquTRXsJU9XI5vWSwW/RdQiKWF GfrdejmaY6j4QhveU229CMfHjjyedKKTaP806SJSi8Ai6CfDWKNeRC44ByCTu7XZVtML WiYIHdr+I6vUvRZlIPByXUDaFjdAiYOqWreD+oXwORiw8o/t5jFvW4Ai9odha3WwqQYG V9TTAKkw0A/2zAFDSCw4uOYegu5IZqPcPb+Tj5LzZMZkdYqV5szMAd+GJlcIdCwgefS3 cqXA== Mon, 29 Jun 2015 06:28:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.5] (c-67-175-120-238.hsd1.il.comcast.net. [67.175.120.238]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id y6sm5441597igl.17.2015.06.29.06.28.23 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 29 Jun 2015 06:28:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Ostrowski Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 08:28:23 -0500 References: <1356244933.691143.1435535215627.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50BA7326D@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> To: McKearn McKearn Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4176316368660556566== boundary=Apple-Mail-324A072A-F541-47E8-91D6-277BADA3540C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-324A072A-F541-47E8-91D6-277BADA3540C charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Is the inner axle now damaged?or was it just the u joint that broke?=20 Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 29, 2015, at 8:07 AM, McKearn McKearn wrote: >=20 > Hi. > My GT6 has the stock rotoflex rear axles and 3.27 rear end. > P.J. > =20 >=20 >> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Barr, Scott wrot= e: >> Wait, what? You=E2=80=99ve put swing axles on your GT6+? That seems lik= e going in the wrong direction. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Scott B.=20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Schirano= >> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 6:47 PM >> To: McKearn McKearn; fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Myself with a GT6 and a buddy with a Spit have these axles from Joe Siam C= hequred Flag out in Ca, http://www.chequeredflagracing.net/Custom_Parts.php.= =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> 26A GT6+, 28 TR6 >>=20 >> Brian Schirano >> 585-305-0349 Cell=20 >> BSchirano@yahoo.com >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> From: McKearn McKearn >> To: fot@autox.team.net=20 >> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 1:15 AM >> Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear axles >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Hi All. >>=20 >> I finally put the front end back together went for a spin and blew up a= rear halfshaft U joint (inner). So now it's time to improve the rear axles= ... I would love to hear what GT6 rs are doing to improve the rear axles. I= have heard CV joints are the hot item but just not sure what parts are bein= g used or where to find them. I have considered TR 4A-6 rear axles also. Any= suggestions?? >>=20 >> Thanks. PJ >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >>=20 >> http://www.fot-racing.com >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano@y= ahoo.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multiv= intage.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-324A072A-F541-47E8-91D6-277BADA3540C charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is the inner axle now damaged?or was i= t just the u joint that broke? 
Jason Ostrowski
Fri= endly Ghost Racing

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 29, 2015,= at 8:07 AM, McKearn McKearn <mckea= rn2@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi.
 My GT6 has the stock rotoflex rear a= xles and 3.27 rear end.
  P.J.
 

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015= at 7:50 AM, Barr, Scott <sbarr@mccarty-law.com> wrote:

Wait, what?  You=E2=80=99ve p= ut swing axles on your GT6+?  That seems like going in the wrong direct= ion.

 

Scott B. 

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Schirano
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 6:47 PM
To: McKearn McKearn; fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles

 

Myself with a GT6 and a buddy w= ith a Spit have these axles from Joe Siam Chequred Flag out in Ca, http://www.chequeredflagracing.net/Custom_Parts.php.

 

=

 

=

26A GT6+, 28 TR6<= /span>

Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell 
BSchirano@yahoo.com=

 

=

From: McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.com>
To: fot@autox= .team.net
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 1:15 AM
Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear axles

 

Hi All.<= /p>

  I  finally put th= e front end back together went for a spin and blew up a rear halfshaft U= joint (inner).  So now it's time to improve the rear axles..= . I would love to hear what GT6 rs  are doing to improve the rear axles.= I have heard CV joints are the hot item but just not sure what parts are be= ing used or where to find them. I have considered TR 4A-6 rear axles also. A= ny suggestions??

     = ;            &nb= sp;       Thanks. PJ


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= --Apple-Mail-324A072A-F541-47E8-91D6-277BADA3540C-- --===============4176316368660556566== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4176316368660556566==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 29 08:47:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03ED32586F1B for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 08:47:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com (mail-ie0-f172.google.com [209.85.223.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473782585370 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 08:46:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iecuq6 with SMTP id uq6so17214734iec.2 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 07:47:09 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=n1LhNeTFvu0A1Hg8fU+KGFgbdJ5Dp5QlIsK7eny5oVE=; b=IGE0NQFkR5kpS3rGGKQCLv+uNGp9NLKjC0NAEs1UdGifaVC1PzY8hSAEPKLijFOjdj V5grU+Bk17n9uo9pgA1ZY8QC4cj0sO1D/4Msw+I3c4MgGBfULHnjGPjVCgBQcnvjB991 CTHP/yezwmZaBfYLdlMucf5fxiHkiiwb7HHvyamzs4Nt9RA4VOWf0DpALE/Ux8k/upAT JEaKhXYXWk/957H+OusRPXoe89o3hV4+UOkLk2p6TdCUIv5nUNof+t6uy4J1P0yvQAIH J1usPynuCe8a4EZpa9xvadC1yBki0I60DVrcisAKy2atNsHxZFuPMMhqV61nCdbOz4TM +4QA== Mon, 29 Jun 2015 07:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.76.145 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 07:47:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:47:09 -0400 From: Mike Harmuth To: fot@autox.team.net Subject: [Fot] Spitfire rear spring arch and rate Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5208049878435356315== --90e6ba6137c20d42a90519a92a34 I've found my rear spring, 63 spit race car, is bent and (slightly degree or 2) twisted. A local spring shop can take out the bend but they would like to know what the correct arch should be. It's a custom spring (fixed not swing type, 3 leafs) that's been in it the since I bought the car and I've always been concerned what I would replace it with. Any one have a number for an arch? How about a spring rate? In case there's an issues with this one, what rear springs are the Spit drivers running? thanks mike h --90e6ba6137c20d42a90519a92a34 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I've found my rear spring, 63 spit race car,= is bent and (slightly degree or 2) twisted. A local spring shop can take o= ut the bend but they would like to know what the correct arch should be. It= 's a custom spring (fixed not swing type, 3 leafs) that's been in i= t the since I bought the car and I've always been concerned what I woul= d replace it with.
Any one have a number for an arch? How abo= ut a spring rate?

=C2=A0In case there's an issues wit= h this one, what rear springs are the Spit drivers running?

th= anks
mike h
--90e6ba6137c20d42a90519a92a34-- --===============5208049878435356315== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5208049878435356315==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 29 09:58:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6841E2585186 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:58:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m03.mx.aol.com (omr-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4882580219 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:58:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mad01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mad01.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.205]) by omr-m03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9A54070036207; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:58:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.8] (cpe-76-176-197-48.san.res.rr.com [76.176.197.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mad01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 7EBC638000085; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:58:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Gee Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 08:58:26 -0700 References: <1356244933.691143.1435535215627.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50BA7326D@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> To: McKearn McKearn x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20150623; t=1435593508; bh=u/dVmFMKtTqOcL+SJEB+QBMdWDNk+FsH6acUfJ0dM+A=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=xsjBrGJ6DEUx6eytsvwumu+PuyLaNU7QZfg9SboNygKPklSCn/UTuFXwt9LMeqwrl Hrobv0fCkwendUvKceXSYalOnq9ojNWW2h5Wipwq9Y4oZkgcZGXr3OhyIQX0H8eCFs algqHDMFHfbw0RyC4/4FcUH7a2PCEjoqcCBulngc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1addcd55916b231e17 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3098456033586395886== boundary=Apple-Mail-B6FB814E-8DCE-4048-B0FE-A8D3918DBDD9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-B6FB814E-8DCE-4048-B0FE-A8D3918DBDD9 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would recommend picking up Kas' last book with my GT6 build. It includes a= chapter on axles and does a nice job of describing the different options. Changing to swing axles has proven to be a viable option because of the weig= ht savings. I know some of the UK guys have done it with success. Not sure= if there is any good data comparing swing vs independent, but you can get s= wing axles to work very well. Chuck > On Jun 29, 2015, at 6:07 AM, McKearn McKearn wrote: >=20 > Hi. > My GT6 has the stock rotoflex rear axles and 3.27 rear end. > P.J. > =20 >=20 >> On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 7:50 AM, Barr, Scott wrot= e: >> Wait, what? You=E2=80=99ve put swing axles on your GT6+? That seems lik= e going in the wrong direction. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Scott B.=20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Schirano= >> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 6:47 PM >> To: McKearn McKearn; fot@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Myself with a GT6 and a buddy with a Spit have these axles from Joe Siam C= hequred Flag out in Ca, http://www.chequeredflagracing.net/Custom_Parts.php.= =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> 26A GT6+, 28 TR6 >>=20 >> Brian Schirano >> 585-305-0349 Cell=20 >> BSchirano@yahoo.com >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> From: McKearn McKearn >> To: fot@autox.team.net=20 >> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 1:15 AM >> Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear axles >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Hi All. >>=20 >> I finally put the front end back together went for a spin and blew up a= rear halfshaft U joint (inner). So now it's time to improve the rear axles= ... I would love to hear what GT6 rs are doing to improve the rear axles. I= have heard CV joints are the hot item but just not sure what parts are bein= g used or where to find them. I have considered TR 4A-6 rear axles also. Any= suggestions?? >>=20 >> Thanks. PJ >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> fot@autox.team.net >>=20 >> http://www.fot-racing.com >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bschirano@y= ahoo.com >=20 > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net >=20 > http://www.fot-racing.com >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/chasgee@aol.= com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-B6FB814E-8DCE-4048-B0FE-A8D3918DBDD9 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I would recommend picking up Kas' last= book with my GT6 build.  It includes a chapter on axles and does a nic= e job of describing the different options.

Changing= to swing axles has proven to be a viable option because of the weight savin= gs.  I know some of the UK guys have done it with success.  Not su= re if there is any good data comparing swing vs independent, but you can get= swing axles to work very well.

Chuck

On Jun 29, 2015, a= t 6:07 AM, McKearn McKearn <mckearn= 2@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi.
 My GT6 has the stock rotoflex rear axle= s and 3.27 rear end.
  P.J.
 

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 7= :50 AM, Barr, Scott <sbarr@mccarty-law.com> wrote:

Wait, what?  You=E2=80=99ve p= ut swing axles on your GT6+?  That seems like going in the wrong direct= ion.

 

Scott B. 

 

From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Schirano
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 6:47 PM
To: McKearn McKearn; fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 rear axles

 

Myself with a GT6 and a buddy w= ith a Spit have these axles from Joe Siam Chequred Flag out in Ca, http://www.chequeredflagracing.net/Custom_Parts.php.

 

=

 

=

26A GT6+, 28 TR6<= /span>

Brian Schirano
585-305-0349 Cell 
BSchirano@yahoo.com=

 

=

From: McKearn McKearn <mckearn2@gmail.com>
To: fot@autox= .team.net
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 1:15 AM
Subject: [Fot] GT6 rear axles

 

Hi All.<= /p>

  I  finally put th= e front end back together went for a spin and blew up a rear halfshaft U= joint (inner).  So now it's time to improve the rear axles..= . I would love to hear what GT6 rs  are doing to improve the rear axles.= I have heard CV joints are the hot item but just not sure what parts are be= ing used or where to find them. I have considered TR 4A-6 rear axles also. A= ny suggestions??

     = ;            &nb= sp;       Thanks. PJ


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= --Apple-Mail-B6FB814E-8DCE-4048-B0FE-A8D3918DBDD9-- --===============3098456033586395886== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3098456033586395886==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 29 10:02:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B665A2586F87 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:02:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f47.google.com (mail-wg0-f47.google.com [74.125.82.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854192584583 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:02:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wguu7 with SMTP id u7so145330981wgu.3 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:02:52 -0700 (PDT) d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:thread-index:content-language; bh=hZKtbMJfYE7PmV5H1uAACuRgMfvD50Arg9hhJzryBeE=; b=jpZiOEPix4ss9K6oHf85Byk1YlnTcGUWDZn8dHRu5tcrR2lYJbYt6y46Zm7ZldTeBP kD6hvKtHGDZvy0mq7fShYbXv6xN0LQjBbC/XIICHA4ozRPg83FD0ID18tDtxX1o0hGeI VOOlqXhtERazRu5uaBa2p04syW0+EW0wF20CzKYq9VxRo1sTfu+6aHfoC0ONpqQSD0wd oxu0VLUtsDyhzSAPh05u35Xeh51Qz9xgHqmwRqObfDymxRZ2MDJA1BE+ofxr1Q2KYkPm Qyxs0UE7uxySJq46VC5bBsWnnUZbwgZWGJfe8NGgBqHHi8s+sG4zSxK7XdkDvBXVGGZC iW0w== Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.160.165.162]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n8sm12771087wiy.19.2015.06.29.09.02.50 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 29 Jun 2015 09:02:51 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <1356244933.691143.1435535215627.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50BA7326D@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <672D1680-E97E-4E19-9B83-176812D7AB40@multivintage.com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 18:02:58 +0200 Thread-Index: AdCyb5Lv2Vcky7FGTWqEW2OzAA2MWwAFVzlg Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] [Video] Spa Summer Classic Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============4705681416530938836== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0020_01D0B295.D5F88690" Content-Language: de This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01D0B295.D5F88690 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some video from Spa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKNC5FaEblA4 = = &feature=3Dyoutu.be =20 Have fun. =20 Cheers Chris ------=_NextPart_000_0020_01D0B295.D5F88690 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Some video from Spa:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKNC5FaEblA4&feature=3Dyoutu.be=

 

Have fun.

 

Cheers

Chris

------=_NextPart_000_0020_01D0B295.D5F88690-- --===============4705681416530938836== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4705681416530938836==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 29 10:58:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93B982587542 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:58:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from laurent.telenet-ops.be (laurent.telenet-ops.be [195.130.137.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A4B258460C for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:57:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([IPv6:2a02:1812:d1c:7a00:1db3:6776:67c1:ed7f]) by laurent.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id mGxG1q00W5RZ1k401GxLH6; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 18:57:20 +0200 From: "Marcel Van Mulders" To: "'MadMarx'" References: <1356244933.691143.1435535215627.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50BA7326D@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <672D1680-E97E-4E19-9B83-176812D7AB40@multivintage.com> <001f01d0b285$126fb690$374f23b0$@com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 18:57:15 +0200 Thread-Index: AdCyb5Lv2Vcky7FGTWqEW2OzAA2MWwAFVzlgAAGJVBA= Cc: fot@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Fot] [Video] Spa Summer Classic Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0224792901278452417== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01D0B29D.6AA54510" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01D0B29D.6AA54510 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It was close racing between Christian Marx and me and with 62 cars (the Triumph Competition race went together with the UK Swinging Sixties) the track was busy too. In the 2 long left bends , I had no acceleration during some 5 seconds, idem on the left part of the Raidillon for a couple of seconds (the left/right sloping bend after the fast dive) because of a loose fuel uptake pipe inside the fuel tank On the other hand, I was lucky to have a buffer car every now and then between me and Chris, otherwise he would have overtaken me. After the pit stop, I suddenly had a slipping clutch because one of the six clutch cover bolts broke and my race was over. The clutch and fuel air leak were recitfied for the 2nd race but then a conrod bearing failed in the 4th lap! So , I still have mechanical troubles, but the car has proven to be very fast when it is in good shape. Sooner or later it will show in the results. Marcel _____ Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens MadMarx Verzonden: maandag 29 juni 2015 18:03 Aan: fot@autox.team.net Onderwerp: [Fot] [Video] Spa Summer Classic Some video from Spa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNC5FaEblA4 &feature=youtu.be Have fun. Cheers Chris ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01D0B29D.6AA54510 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It was close racing between Christian Marx = and me and=20 with 62 cars (the Triumph Competition race went together with the UK = Swinging=20 Sixties) the track was busy too. In the 2 long left bends , I had no=20 acceleration during some 5 seconds, idem on the left part of = the Raidillon=20 for a couple of seconds (the left/right sloping bend after the fast = dive) because of a loose fuel uptake pipe inside the fuel=20 tank  On the other hand, I was lucky to have a buffer car = every now=20 and then between me and Chris, otherwise he would have overtaken me. = After the=20 pit stop, I suddenly had a slipping clutch because one of the six = clutch=20 cover bolts broke and my race was over. The clutch and fuel air leak = were=20 recitfied for the 2nd race but then a conrod bearing failed in the 4th=20 lap!
So , I still have mechanical troubles, but = the car has=20 proven to be very fast when it is in good shape.
Sooner or later it will show in the=20 results.
Marcel

Van: Fot = [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net]=20 Namens MadMarx
Verzonden: maandag 29 juni 2015=20 18:03
Aan: fot@autox.team.net
Onderwerp: [Fot] = [Video] Spa=20 Summer Classic

Some=20 video from Spa:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKNC5FaEblA4&feature=3Dyoutu.be=

 

Have=20 fun.

 

Cheers

Chris

------=_NextPart_000_0003_01D0B29D.6AA54510-- --===============0224792901278452417== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0224792901278452417==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 29 11:47:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFFF2587647 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:47:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f170.google.com (mail-wi0-f170.google.com [209.85.212.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D902A2584EA2 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:47:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wicgi11 with SMTP id gi11so79057662wic.0 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:47:18 -0700 (PDT) d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:thread-index:content-language; bh=U8up2KAIJHGXcjFvuIpSo2rYBuYYcBmwxYFvdLjwBbM=; b=B8PffPEsBwQ6mpLfc1wEoCDsm8PvkpIB9+IDfCtZ9ORnXBJ9XVY1PFSippeW4//NUv h78SlA06XKt4ZnPJi9i44pHAFytnhm/IA+xcATSEe3IR5X1v7ijN+p+SenESLii+ypmW KyKb5Z+oTIyctC0vwrHauxV5wQvOkDXkgIWVScy6lz622l4OLGU2Ncg2AM9Pa7DTij9V ajSZuhgY+JoK7mGxmFzh+O+yD7U2EZg/Joyc1sfQK0dzbvfAy7C1EOWEE3ZKxg+e2VaG C7AyfY7dLp5Uc5ZkQ6TCbgC1lDS0Z+hK3ioun1F93+QTJDUG5RLdpYQyyzcouwk/twIO lbzg== Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:47:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.160.165.162]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fa8sm13151624wib.14.2015.06.29.10.47.16 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:47:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <1356244933.691143.1435535215627.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50BA7326D@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <672D1680-E97E-4E19-9B83-176812D7AB40@multivintage.com> <001f01d0b285$126fb690$374f23b0$@com> <8A04B4513BF34414B70107A0FE6B64D3@GebruikerPC> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 19:47:23 +0200 Thread-Index: AdCyb5Lv2Vcky7FGTWqEW2OzAA2MWwAFVzlgAAGJVBAAAiBhwA== Content-Language: de Subject: Re: [Fot] [Video] Spa Summer Classic Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0786623038339157377== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0055_01D0B2A4.6C5D9F40" Content-Language: de This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01D0B2A4.6C5D9F40 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Indeed it is Marcel! Von: Marcel Van Mulders [mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be] Gesendet: Montag, 29. Juni 2015 18:57 An: 'MadMarx' Cc: fot@autox.team.net Betreff: RE: [Fot] [Video] Spa Summer Classic It was close racing between Christian Marx and me and with 62 cars (the Triumph Competition race went together with the UK Swinging Sixties) the track was busy too. In the 2 long left bends , I had no acceleration during some 5 seconds, idem on the left part of the Raidillon for a couple of seconds (the left/right sloping bend after the fast dive) because of a loose fuel uptake pipe inside the fuel tank On the other hand, I was lucky to have a buffer car every now and then between me and Chris, otherwise he would have overtaken me. After the pit stop, I suddenly had a slipping clutch because one of the six clutch cover bolts broke and my race was over. The clutch and fuel air leak were recitfied for the 2nd race but then a conrod bearing failed in the 4th lap! So , I still have mechanical troubles, but the car has proven to be very fast when it is in good shape. Sooner or later it will show in the results. Marcel _____ Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens MadMarx Verzonden: maandag 29 juni 2015 18:03 Aan: fot@autox.team.net Onderwerp: [Fot] [Video] Spa Summer Classic Some video from Spa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNC5FaEblA4 &feature=youtu.be Have fun. Cheers Chris ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01D0B2A4.6C5D9F40 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Indeed it is Marcel!

 

Von:<= /b> = Marcel Van Mulders [mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be] =
Gesendet: Montag, 29. Juni 2015 18:57
An: = 'MadMarx'
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
Betreff: RE: [Fot] = [Video] Spa Summer Classic

 

It= was close racing between Christian Marx and me and with 62 cars (the = Triumph Competition race went together with the UK Swinging Sixties) the = track was busy too. In the 2 long left bends , I had no acceleration = during some 5 seconds, idem on the left part of the Raidillon for a = couple of seconds (the left/right sloping bend after the fast = dive) because of a loose fuel uptake pipe inside the fuel = tank  On the other hand, I was lucky to have a buffer car = every now and then between me and Chris, otherwise he would have = overtaken me. After the pit stop, I suddenly had a slipping clutch = because one of the six clutch cover bolts broke and my race was over. = The clutch and fuel air leak were recitfied for the 2nd race but then a = conrod bearing failed in the 4th lap!

So= , I still have mechanical troubles, but the car has proven to be very = fast when it is in good shape.

So= oner or later it will show in the results.

Ma= rcel

 

Van:<= /b> Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.= net] Namens MadMarx
Verzonden: maandag 29 juni 2015 = 18:03
Aan: fot@autox.team.net
Onderwerp= : [Fot] [Video] Spa Summer Classic

Some video from Spa:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKNC5FaEblA4&feature=3Dyoutu.be=

 

Have fun.

 

Cheers

Chris

------=_NextPart_000_0055_01D0B2A4.6C5D9F40-- --===============0786623038339157377== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0786623038339157377==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 29 12:47:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEFD82587818 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 12:47:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f177.google.com (mail-wi0-f177.google.com [209.85.212.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7852587636 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 12:46:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wiwl6 with SMTP id l6so108795480wiw.0 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:46:53 -0700 (PDT) d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:thread-index:content-language; bh=n/fa4Z+SZe0qPKbdOLsOr0Wg75frsQXFqQl0X/T4O5k=; b=j4UHZFejrq6b7kdTELUnIPe49zpggq/FARe/r4glmkTR1/qju9etGHZ/jAAgcJHPu4 b5fG1/9OVzjeYCmBMDlNOdEWwXywkJXqFU2pcMxf1iQ3uGoDNBD89S0VthH+G/jW5iVA gHH30mB2/WFbIdu6kZ+EYG6WCI6udmvzZOQCgsz2lhdbW8MnDsxCwIXjQicW86zX6oXo MdshF2vLmYKtEuFG/KzdybVOUWXcFWLdGUbOm4lo6fJwbiQaFagfoYOcjdUnrnNYDd6x qoBiYCaqMN9K36PyYcr8e2GZdQZaYI55NStXijanLUCAWmybvDpIje8qVn10dvojlbdS T5bg== Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Home ([2.160.165.162]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fo13sm13350925wic.0.2015.06.29.11.46.51 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 29 Jun 2015 11:46:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "MadMarx" To: References: <1356244933.691143.1435535215627.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50BA7326D@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <672D1680-E97E-4E19-9B83-176812D7AB40@multivintage.com> <001f01d0b285$126fb690$374f23b0$@com> <003201d0b28c$c3c72c00$4b558400$@com> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 20:46:58 +0200 Thread-Index: AdCykibR5b79h447QwqvPogF2d3yCAACb7Pg Content-Language: de Subject: [Fot] Model cars Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============8192930730201195234== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0076_01D0B2AC.BFDC28A0" Content-Language: de This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01D0B2AC.BFDC28A0 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This one looks nice: http://www.renardy-modellbau.de/grafx/gallerie/Bild16.jpg Cheers Chris ------=_NextPart_000_0076_01D0B2AC.BFDC28A0 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
------=_NextPart_000_0076_01D0B2AC.BFDC28A0-- --===============8192930730201195234== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8192930730201195234==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 29 12:58:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 774552587AEF for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 12:58:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p02c11o149.mxlogic.net (p02c11o149.mxlogic.net [208.65.144.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39DB22584B9F for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 12:58:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO p02c11o149.mxlogic.net) by p02c11o149.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.4.0-2) with ESMTP id e5591955.2b9850813940.328887.00-475.907801.p02c11o149.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 29 Jun 2015 12:58:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] by p02c11o149.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.4.0-2) over TLS secured channel with SMTP id d5591955.0.328020.00-339.907733.p02c11o149.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 29 Jun 2015 12:58:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::dc8d:98d4:a80c:1957]) by ATLPEXCAS01.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 14:58:08 -0400 From: John Hasty To: MadMarx Thread-Topic: [Fot] [Video] Spa Summer Classic Thread-Index: AdCyb5Lv2Vcky7FGTWqEW2OzAA2MWwAFVzlgAAGJVBAAAiBhwAACfLo+ Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 18:58:08 +0000 References: <1356244933.691143.1435535215627.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50BA7326D@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <672D1680-E97E-4E19-9B83-176812D7AB40@multivintage.com> <001f01d0b285$126fb690$374f23b0$@com> <8A04B4513BF34414B70107A0FE6B64D3@GebruikerPC>, <005401d0b293$a8d4cf40$fa7e6dc0$@com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-exclaimer-md-config: cee22798-72e9-40a9-949b-68671b12e107 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] [Video] Spa Summer Classic Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Neat you guys! Sent from my iPhone Indeed it is Marcel! Von: Marcel Van Mulders [mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be] Gesendet: Montag, 29. Juni 2015 18:57 An: 'MadMarx' Betreff: RE: [Fot] [Video] Spa Summer Classic It was close racing between Christian Marx and me and with 62 cars (the Triumph Competition race went together with the UK Swinging Sixties) the track was busy too. In the 2 long left bends , I had no acceleration during some 5 seconds, idem on the left part of the Raidillon for a couple of seconds (the left/right sloping bend after the fast dive) because of a loose fuel uptake pipe inside the fuel tank On the other hand, I was lucky to have a buffer car every now and then between me and Chris, otherwise he would have overtaken me. After the pit stop, I suddenly had a slipping clutch because one of the six clutch cover bolts broke and my race was over. The clutch and fuel air leak were recitfied for the 2nd race but then a conrod bearing failed in the 4th lap! So , I still have mechanical troubles, but the car has proven to be very fast when it is in good shape. Sooner or later it will show in the results. Marcel ________________________________ Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens MadMarx Verzonden: maandag 29 juni 2015 18:03 Onderwerp: [Fot] [Video] Spa Summer Classic Some video from Spa: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNC5FaEblA4&feature=youtu.be Have fun. Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 29 13:01:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812D32587D13 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:01:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from p01c11o144.mxlogic.net (p01c11o144.mxlogic.net [208.65.144.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5F02587B90 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:00:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO xcentric.com.outbound10.mxlogic.net) by p01c11o144.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.4.0-2) with ESMTP id de591955.2b2dc583b940.2100448.00-496.5271616.p01c11o144.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:01:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown [64.88.174.96] (EHLO xcentric.com.outbound10.mxlogic.net) by p01c11o144.mxlogic.net(mxl_mta-8.4.0-2) over TLS secured channel with ESMTP id 7c591955.0.2099944.00-336.5270112.p01c11o144.mxlogic.net (envelope-from ); Mon, 29 Jun 2015 13:00:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ATLPEXDAG006.xc.lan ([fe80::dc8d:98d4:a80c:1957]) by ATLPEXCAS02.xc.lan ([::1]) with mapi id 14.03.0210.002; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 15:00:22 -0400 From: John Hasty To: MadMarx Thread-Topic: [Fot] Model cars Thread-Index: AQHQspwQNnWwNHP9wEGY58O45caMLZ3D1noe Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 19:00:22 +0000 References: <1356244933.691143.1435535215627.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <84F56CFCC31FAC48AE160008ADDECFA50BA7326D@SVR-EXCH02.mccarty-law.com> <672D1680-E97E-4E19-9B83-176812D7AB40@multivintage.com> <001f01d0b285$126fb690$374f23b0$@com> <003201d0b28c$c3c72c00$4b558400$@com> , <007501d0b29b$fc5358a0$f4fa09e0$@com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-exclaimer-md-config: cee22798-72e9-40a9-949b-68671b12e107 Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Model cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Paul Newman's Sent from my iPhone This one looks nice: http://www.renardy-modellbau.de/grafx/gallerie/Bild16.jpg Cheers Chris _______________________________________________ http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 29 14:21:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C3F25862B2 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 14:21:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from xavier.telenet-ops.be (xavier.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 611C92584DAE for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 14:21:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from GebruikerPC ([IPv6:2a02:1812:d1c:7a00:1db3:6776:67c1:ed7f]) by xavier.telenet-ops.be with bizsmtp id mLMC1q00F5RZ1k401LMFGZ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 22:21:15 +0200 From: "Van Mulders Marcel" To: Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 22:21:12 +0200 Thread-Index: AdCyqSRAgNRZtKUNRQ+Pz9owGqkGCA== Subject: [Fot] Francorchamps Tr Competition June 2015 Qualifying Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============7203245879015216800== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0000_01D0B2B9.E80AA510" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01D0B2B9.E80AA510 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit https://youtu.be/0ZMv2JFlEtk This should be a link to a video of the qualifying session. I didn't manage to make a clip, hence it is that long. Marcel. ------=_NextPart_000_0000_01D0B2B9.E80AA510 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
https://youtu.be/0ZMv2JFlEtk
This = should be a=20 link to a video of the qualifying session. I didn't manage to make a = clip, hence=20 it is that long.
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(envelope-from ) id 1ZA2Kg-00015q-Rk for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 14:40:42 -0600 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 15:40:37 -0500 To: fot@autox.team.net From: Tony Drews {sentby:smtp auth 173.31.224.109 authed with tony@tonydrews.com} Subject: [Fot] Steve Borowski - request to add to FOT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Steve Borowski was nominated to the FOT but still isn't on the list. Mark, can you please add him? e-mail address is: biznzman@pacbell.net He has a ton of questions and is desperate to get on the list to get some help rebuilding his TR-4 racer. Thanks, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 30 18:44:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE3525852CF for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 18:44:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m2.mx.aol.com (omr-m2.mx.aol.com [64.12.133.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6212584740 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 18:44:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mae02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mae02.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.144]) by omr-m2.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 411D438000050; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 20:44:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mba01g.mail.aol.com (core-mba01.mail.aol.com [172.27.44.1]) by mtaomg-mae02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0199B38000081; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 20:44:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 71.255.184.116 by webprd-m80.mail.aol.com (10.74.71.90) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 30 Jun 2015 20:44:15 -0400 Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 20:44:15 -0400 From: kkjjk@aol.com To: tony@tonydrews.com, fot@autox.team.net References: <20150630204035.BE51B258519A@autox.team.net> x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20150623; t=1435711456; bh=tPjNjQtWHvjzhbDLywVVP7dik0ALBUtNxXduaCaDR7E=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WoYaQwI7dhk7IT1ZCb5LMj4gzLvagEcdzOIVJ9A9cOpH+UPRELQNskqwqcTBquF0j x8WBpbMGijRC/V5DzKMcy9zCDhrN34yW+7dsZBlgZbkakHIfCBs3FPqSsmUQL1/mEa B2+T5/Qa3mi5SgHYBG6M2+99my1o8PaBnzAbBquw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afe90559337df2a5c Subject: Re: [Fot] Steve Borowski - request to add to FOT Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4907378889173074359== boundary="----=_Part_222478_1662024616.1435711455857" ------=_Part_222478_1662024616.1435711455857 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Same for Jeffrey De Pol, Mark. His email is dep1505@yahoo.com. Tony, how do I access the member's list? If he has been added, Mark, please accept my apology! Thanks!- Jay De Pol -----Original Message----- From: Tony Drews To: fot Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 4:40 pm Subject: [Fot] Steve Borowski - request to add to FOT Steve Borowski was nominated to the FOT but still isn't on the list. Mark, can you please add him? e-mail address is: biznzman@pacbell.net He has a ton of questions and is desperate to get on the list to get some help rebuilding his TR-4 racer. Thanks, Tony Drews _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/kkjjk@aol.com ------=_Part_222478_1662024616.1435711455857 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Same for Jeffrey De Pol, Mark.  His email is dep1505@yahoo.com.  Tony, how do I access the member's list?  If he has been added, Mark, please accept my apology!  Thanks!- Jay De Pol


-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>
To: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2015 4:40 pm
Subject: [Fot] Steve Borowski - request to add to FOT

Steve Borowski was nominated to the FOT but still isn't on the 
list.  Mark,
can you please add him?
e-mail address is: biznzman@pacbell.net

He has a ton
of questions and is desperate to get on the list to get 
some help rebuilding
his TR-4 racer.

Thanks, Tony
Drews

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fot@autox.team.net

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Donate:
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------=_Part_222478_1662024616.1435711455857-- --===============4907378889173074359== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4907378889173074359==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 30 19:11:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87EFE2584BAD for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 19:11:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E31C2584597 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 19:10:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9370E2C04EE for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 19:11:14 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 19:11:11 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1 To: fot@autox.team.net References: <20150630204036.40CA02585278@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Fot] Steve Borowski - request to add to FOT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tony Drews wrote: > Steve Borowski was nominated to the FOT but still isn't on the list. Mark, can you please add him? > e-mail address is: biznzman@pacbell.net Yes, he IS on the list, has been for a while. AT&T is almost as bad as AOL. Jun 30 19:07:06 autox postfix/smtp[20722]: 54C65258607D: to=, relay=ff-ip4-mx-vip1.prodigy.net[144.160.159.21]:25, conn_use=10, delay=243977, delays=243971/6.1/0.28/0.03, dsn=4.3.0, status=SOFTBOUNCE (host ff-ip4-mx-vip1.prodigy.net[144.160.159.21] said: 553 5.3.0 flph395 DNSBL:ATTRBL 521< 50.198.190.17 >_is_blocked.__For_information_see_http://att.net/blocks (in reply to MAIL FROM command)) _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 30 19:31:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3B52585456 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 19:31:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.165]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C42525845DF for ; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:04:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-17v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.241]) by resqmta-po-06v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id hu3S1q0035Clt1L01u47zy; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 18:04:07 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.5] ([71.196.236.31]) by resomta-po-17v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id hu451q00Z0hKggf01u46qF; Thu, 18 Jun 2015 18:04:06 +0000 From: Bud R Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 12:04:05 -0600 To: FOT s=q20140121; t=1434650647; bh=G9cJXBNOkJyQjiVapz3W4/2PldQkigkNqOW2u3KCzrc=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Message-Id:Mime-Version:Date: Subject:To; b=W6mqHHKkrv4OZFT/bimgo04cu2pvZHFNMTXSXz0bttXDjD7vMc3esV2jc91f97vZL 7oI+TZUHGYtSGAIDkyS7mFQ2ZE8JV51/dNIT3NDEkGdO8VIJkmU+KyGvN70OHfuP0V V54N6z0f4pQAncpwEY0kfnzSqA/2zolNwODh/YSZXReUG5DVe9N6nKWTEMgjSyqVDl r9R/JQb4ydeIr/3KeHJp5S7029c3kAlUtqS8v4qsdv11WwXKWAc8xZJz97hgznzQAx SgO3pTbpPYVKiajT7yWS+TaGaczNqrEDPsaQ0H3u4OUk+q4RhnxEHajhZqZ7s4ATUn IfBKBxMGx8uxg== Cc: Jim Gray , "Mark A. Eden" Subject: [Fot] Even a blind pig finds an acorn once in awhile. Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3424163163165567293== --Apple-Mail=_0E909B2B-9720-47E8-8E13-045EF7386819 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=windows-1252 Listerati, As luck would have it the 4:11 differential (one of the spares that came = with the race car) I had refurbished for my Spitfire this week turned = out to already be welded. So I don=92t have to worry about some of the = tighter turns lifting a wheel. That=92s a relief.=20 I hadn=92t even considered I=92d be that lucky, and it was missing the = inner hubs/flanges so I never tested it for being welded up and hadn=92t = ever opened it up. Since I had already been driving a welded 3:89 I=92m kinda already used = to the welded axle driving style, whatever that is. I think I=92ll go buy a lottery ticket. It=92s not often I walk out of a = shop feeling so good about picking up a part. Now if anyone knows where I can get a 1/2 inch version of the aluminum = lowering block that goes on top of the diff I=92d appreciate knowing. I = believe the 1/2 inch block is supposed to give you 2 degrees negative = camber and right now I have 3 degrees of negative camber. Chequered = Racing only has 1 inch blocks. Thanks, Bud Rolofson Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut) 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car) 93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle=20 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) --Apple-Mail=_0E909B2B-9720-47E8-8E13-045EF7386819 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=windows-1252
Listerati,

As luck would = have it the 4:11 differential (one of the spares that came with the race = car) I had refurbished for my Spitfire this week turned out to already = be welded. So I don=92t have to worry about some of the tighter turns = lifting a wheel. That=92s a relief. 

I hadn=92t = even considered I=92d be that lucky, and it was missing the inner = hubs/flanges so I never tested it for being welded up and hadn=92t ever = opened it up.

Since I had already been driving a = welded 3:89 I=92m kinda already used to the welded axle driving style, = whatever that is.

I think I=92ll go buy a = lottery ticket. It=92s not often I walk out of a shop feeling so good = about picking up a part.

Now if anyone knows = where I can get a 1/2 inch version of the aluminum lowering block that = goes on top of the diff I=92d appreciate knowing. I believe the 1/2 inch = block is supposed to give you 2 degrees negative camber and right now I = have 3 degrees of negative camber. Chequered Racing only has 1 inch = blocks.

Thanks,
Bud Rolofson

Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)

71TR6 CC57365 (Good = 6)
71 Spitfire MK IV = Race Car #3
69 Spitfire MK III = (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle 
77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda = Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)












= --Apple-Mail=_0E909B2B-9720-47E8-8E13-045EF7386819-- --===============3424163163165567293== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3424163163165567293==-- From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 30 21:21:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F2B02586574 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 21:21:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from vms173023pub.verizon.net (vms173023pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.23]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D702586465 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 21:19:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hpd530 ([71.116.26.215]) by vms173023.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NQS009IGH90HZC0@vms173023.mailsrvcs.net> for fot@autox.team.net; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 22:19:54 -0500 (CDT) a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=IJ9pWlWUkYEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=XAFQembCKUMA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=k0i7qWdVAAAA:8 a=jg_yglyPAAAA:8 a=B6ARQbUIAAAA:8 a=JcvzPq48AAAA:8 a=lLl4j-B_5cRuCkry9k4A:9 a=Xzdrm8q7E3v1LFGj:21 a=o5aCgEugM5jsd6P7:21 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=MG4Rcr4xqJIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=f_jo5SVVs6EA:10 a=bXXmjBwangUA:10 From: "Bill Tobin" To: "Joe Alexander" , References: <37BA385F-BF04-4BA3-86D6-8D62FBA5133D@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 23:19:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 DVD. By John Clancy Production Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Joe, I just watched the DVD: very well done! Great job to all who took part in making it. Thanks, Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Alexander" To: Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2015 8:36 PM Subject: [Fot] Kastner Cup 2015 DVD. By John Clancy Production > FOT, > > Just a reminder: > > $25 to my PayPal Account. N197tr4@cs.com. (For John Clancy) > > Or a check below. > > Joe Alexander > 645 1st Street > Jesup, IA 50648 > The-vintage-racer.com > Gasketinnovations.com > Cell: 319.464.4711 > > Great reviews are coming in on the DVD, including Triumph World magazine > in the UK. My supply is almost exhausted but another batch is coming from > the UK. > > All monies go to John Clancy. > > If you are interested in any other of his DVDs, ask, and I will try to get > them to you. > > Triumphdvd.uk.co > > Joe > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/william.tobin31@verizon.net > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From fot-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 30 23:22:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3578B25856EC for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 23:22:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: fot@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f180.google.com (mail-ie0-f180.google.com [209.85.223.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76EF525851C4 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 23:19:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iecuq6 with SMTP id uq6so27289465iec.2 for ; Tue, 30 Jun 2015 22:19:29 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=tbSstmlZIh7DFgmcjOyDPgJNvrXD4I0UQtdbmTRTC28=; b=QcOn2HjFCS8qDdzjtIsrV77Yp5Yr+Db5zTu+k12v/YCO0Pxb7T4pW4Xi5VTilQv+JD 9tlPBxzzaByueIC1QOeegCyG5SWUijHvz+SVip3VdVcWc4NE1j/Rid/mrdn+sK3/mY6t +JF7F1Lyct6rAqDx0EIpnij2pPJZyZ48ORxQ1OFnk7YX/W7bKmZ6StmRoZTu3cR1vUQd NacZTRYL0YHD+eRs1q7kbELpBTJ2X2GJ78hjk33155foGmSTpE2edWlmpFDtFckALe6D rPZbHMGKsghKyNGRcCIBsu7tO/wPMVRwdzGZ/wGgEGV8Kf09TWonblodAH5FM1DnZJ+J psvg== Tue, 30 Jun 2015 22:19:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.106.142.22] ([166.175.184.196]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o19sm9423351igs.18.2015.06.30.22.19.26 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Jun 2015 22:19:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Ostrowski Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 00:19:27 -0500 References: <20150630204036.40CA02585278@autox.team.net> <55933E2F.4060108@bradakis.com> To: Mark J Bradakis Cc: "fot@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Fot] Steve Borowski - request to add to FOT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: fot-bounces@autox.team.net Yeah, have him check his "spam" all my Fot Mail goes there now. It all used to go to my regular inbox. Now unless I keep telling my devices that Fot messages are "not spam" I would never get them. And that sucks cause my triumph/Fot life is a lifeline to the outside world. Otherwise it would just be me alone in my garage trying daily to reinvent glorious speedy GT6 moments of days gone by... Jason Ostrowski Friendly Ghost Racing Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 30, 2015, at 8:11 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > Tony Drews wrote: >> Steve Borowski was nominated to the FOT but still isn't on the list. Mark, can you please add him? >> e-mail address is: biznzman@pacbell.net > > Yes, he IS on the list, has been for a while. AT&T is almost as bad as AOL. > > > Jun 30 19:07:06 autox postfix/smtp[20722]: 54C65258607D: to=, relay=ff-ip4-mx-vip1.prodigy.net[144.160.159.21]:25, conn_use=10, delay=243977, delays=243971/6.1/0.28/0.03, dsn=4.3.0, status=SOFTBOUNCE (host ff-ip4-mx-vip1.prodigy.net[144.160.159.21] said: 553 5.3.0 flph395 DNSBL:ATTRBL 521< 50.198.190.17 >_is_blocked.__For_information_see_http://att.net/blocks (in reply to MAIL FROM command)) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fot@autox.team.net > > http://www.fot-racing.com > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/jason@multivintage.com > > _______________________________________________ fot@autox.team.net http://www.fot-racing.com Archive: http://www.team.net/archive