From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 1 14:32:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0450142991 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 14:32:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f173.google.com (mail-vc0-f173.google.com [209.85.220.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC34B427C7; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 14:32:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id gd11so2774711vcb.4 for ; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:29:39 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8SwA7xC3IRuI7SHB3MPkFVv7ocAAC4oWh3PGefONP68=; b=Ij81Q4t5tQltWnkPfLCu7loA/JfzN2jbHSAN7BUf2KSSI48EYYYfxoM+W+K0rfBgVO xGJ1mxLReHOGRo+SGsCoAo7CA+6haX67aazK2xXl+qJrflhBbCsnf+rL2dIkkdsCxMje tvbBzOvWDXuAu/5YiDHQ/64Wihv8BmltGjh5jL0nrteNhyrojl9a3dGXlwzCZVWq5Wsf +tUY3ugpqWq8tyxi47gTvKf/aOJatT9Wv9tj5mNC8vqlHw9oiXx2Mgod0glm1CyK1Q3Z gDkMV/YkSixHiFjzJxA+figtHJDPgY4vfc3PdjlWlvY+L2mwX0c1s4PvLX7zjXA+op1x qLEQ== qu6mr7631714vec.35.1364848179153; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 13:29:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.18.210 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 13:29:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 15:29:38 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante , Neil Shannon Subject: [Mg-t] More TD work, a.k.a. First day of retirement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Its the first day of my retirement and...wait for it...YES! I got a call this afternoon from the company asking about some data I processed! No escape! However, I have had a good day in the garage. Story follows; A couple of days ago I wrote to you stating that I would probably rebuild the '53 TD's fuel pump rather than replacing it - and that is what I have done. Here's how the pump looked on the car. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1030.JPG Here's how it looked on the bench with the filter and the fuel chamber removed. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1041.JPG Here's a look at the non-return valve before any cleanup. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1042.JPG Here are the valve parts (almost) ready for reassembly. I say almost because the valve disks still need to be cleaned. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1043.JPG And here's the pump reassembled with new gaskets, the contacts burnished, and tested. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1044.JPG It runs great and looks nice. >From there I moved on to the next component to rebuild; the starter switch. Here's how it looked while still on the car. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1050.JPG Same switch on the bench, awaiting cleanup. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1051.JPG Some fuel pump debris is still on the bench. All has since been cleaned up. Here's a look at the switch, now cleaned up, refinished and tested. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1054.JPG And finally, a look back at the car with the parts removed. This picture is my guide as to the correct placement / orientation of the various mounting brackets. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1053.JPG And that's it for now. I like sharing the work and I know some of you probably enjoy seeing the progress. Please feel free to just hit 'delete' is uninterested. With kind regards, -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 1 14:47:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6397B429BE for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 14:47:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D65429B2 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 14:46:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JamL1l0040Fqzac53kjg20; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 20:43:40 +0000 Received: from GenePC ([65.96.195.105]) by omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Jkhf1l00Q2GusAh3Ukhf4M; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 20:41:40 +0000 From: "Gene" To: "'Richard Lindsay'" , , , "'Rui Gigante'" , "'Neil Shannon'" References: Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 16:41:57 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4vF/t39iO/Xrh4SQeGagkL9tDF0gAAUMtg Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1364849020; bh=V6pB7d5CCVSsyxWcZtb1uq2BXo6T91/KXv6gWJrlG88=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=F8hXEN9lwK2UEM7zqYRYSJhwL5Q6WddjRlekXD71BSTedrrkmmhY7pq++lfDIyKTe Nn11R8Zl/Zba0Hvuq9U1zuKXqd+vs50jmyfJkjgYzbJ1u4oM2ZkceCJUQq+YzyG+Mb QaPdn109PF734cSZfYFAAptgCdO6pLnEFb0trqkksvw4/CMPJg7YU+6sMOEeRXIBdM kVqYQkZUoTEeDGsD6sguvEn+IxtN/f+nyKeznVnHQZL68pomVTAEzf7CHLG1Ot+a7l 0iDkETHvkxz+/RVNF7lYTxx3nZn4RpNQ/DmzQ/KsHic+5z1/15qtmtnz32BYwcrJ3f vQ5pQsA7i6UWQ== Subject: Re: [Mg-t] More TD work, a.k.a. First day of retirement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Truly, things of beauty ... Thanks for the updates. I bet it may help others in the restoration process. Cheers Gene -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Lindsay Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 4:30 PM To: mgs@autox.team.net; mg-t@autox.team.net; Rui Gigante; Neil Shannon Subject: [Mg-t] More TD work, a.k.a. First day of retirement Its the first day of my retirement and...wait for it...YES! I got a call this afternoon from the company asking about some data I processed! No escape! However, I have had a good day in the garage. Story follows; A couple of days ago I wrote to you stating that I would probably rebuild the '53 TD's fuel pump rather than replacing it - and that is what I have done. Here's how the pump looked on the car. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1030.JPG Here's how it looked on the bench with the filter and the fuel chamber removed. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1041.JPG Here's a look at the non-return valve before any cleanup. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1042.JPG Here are the valve parts (almost) ready for reassembly. I say almost because the valve disks still need to be cleaned. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1043.JPG And here's the pump reassembled with new gaskets, the contacts burnished, and tested. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1044.JPG It runs great and looks nice. >From there I moved on to the next component to rebuild; the starter switch. Here's how it looked while still on the car. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1050.JPG Same switch on the bench, awaiting cleanup. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1051.JPG Some fuel pump debris is still on the bench. All has since been cleaned up. Here's a look at the switch, now cleaned up, refinished and tested. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1054.JPG And finally, a look back at the car with the parts removed. This picture is my guide as to the correct placement / orientation of the various mounting brackets. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1053.JPG And that's it for now. I like sharing the work and I know some of you probably enjoy seeing the progress. Please feel free to just hit 'delete' is uninterested. With kind regards, -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/crownwheel@comcast.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 1 17:07:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA9842571 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 17:07:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f180.google.com (mail-vc0-f180.google.com [209.85.220.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A974E40519; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 17:00:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id m17so2918807vca.11 for ; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:57:23 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=kFIdtAPJB5prFk/uH9XNxIRFOqn4IukH5LHrJAeUW/M=; b=itL/6YQWqOvoeqVQ1zAiu1+dhyZnjMVsnJHRMjX3reeBDiJ+Ecf6egFZjz5r2l+WC7 5S5Inac+KFB6a1APZAtbMJDEAD4+x6JCH/XMJE0dJTKAMH3l9vGYlYNHgPrj0FQn4eaU PRUD40x0MqbC1GlC59QbANfaAV3olr6c6s9ok1uLqF+80zOoEGaFBL1N7xUvdKcvdffP +Tphl9SNiDVtseo1YRglHnyEYqNJ0w4BGBOoDqZJLzRDdzJD5mLiAQ5FB13byIacxd6b mVE0GCjf8ZLgik7dH8gRWlZlF7g/OVIVCz29IykB91+KNAGOjA6TYmJljyz03tkqBALS aNig== bq7mr10600380ved.51.1364857043055; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 15:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.18.210 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 15:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 17:57:22 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, schooler , Neil Shannon Subject: [Mg-t] Only in our world... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Only in our perverted world would this be called progress! http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1057.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1058.JPG -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 1 17:09:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C8A40E16 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 17:09:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9844C40523 for ; Mon, 1 Apr 2013 17:06:20 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1364857419; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=snjwD2p0J9yEfiOCZT902lXdZtKliJ+zHcPBK0Spu9S3u5B7n6P51epeYTC46PJUn u5bq/VJ0OuQWV7PZS68mqBpYBgJUNHbQjMABNgqiHoSCq9DGLg98sbrHxV7Os/P/3D vdumKuOZC1wuSEVm/RpfBkO5tl/hvBFanl8WZhX4= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.102]) by smtpout02.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABJXWETZABRAB6J for (sender ); Mon, 1 Apr 2013 16:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [108.88.216.197] by webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 23:02:19 GMT From: "mgbob@juno.com" Full-Name: "mgbob@juno.com" Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 23:02:19 GMT To: richardolindsay@gmail.com 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 43ea0f57d727d76f9bef339b07cf3f339f1333be2a6eeb4e4e2bfbaf4b677b4eab3e0383dbfb034be3ba0e5a8acfef7e5a777713 Cc: neiltshannon@gmail.com, rui.gigante@gmail.com, mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] More TD work, a.k.a. First day of retirement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for the pics. Nice to see these good old components brought back into service. The starter switch even has its build date showing. What are you using for finish on the switch metal? Bob ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Richard Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante , Neil Shannon Subject: [Mg-t] More TD work, a.k.a. First day of retirement Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 15:29:38 -0500 Its the first day of my retirement and...wait for it...YES! I got a call this afternoon from the company asking about some data I processed! No escape! However, I have had a good day in the garage. Story follows; A couple of days ago I wrote to you stating that I would probably rebuild the '53 TD's fuel pump rather than replacing it - and that is what I have done. Here's how the pump looked on the car. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1030.JPG Here's how it looked on the bench with the filter and the fuel chamber removed. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1041.JPG Here's a look at the non-return valve before any cleanup. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1042.JPG Here are the valve parts (almost) ready for reassembly. I say almost because the valve disks still need to be cleaned. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1043.JPG And here's the pump reassembled with new gaskets, the contacts burnished, and tested. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1044.JPG It runs great and looks nice. >From there I moved on to the next component to rebuild; the starter switch. Here's how it looked while still on the car. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1050.JPG Same switch on the bench, awaiting cleanup. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1051.JPG Some fuel pump debris is still on the bench. All has since been cleaned up. Here's a look at the switch, now cleaned up, refinished and tested. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1054.JPG And finally, a look back at the car with the parts removed. This picture is my guide as to the correct placement / orientation of the various mounting brackets. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1053.JPG And that's it for now. I like sharing the work and I know some of you probably enjoy seeing the progress. Please feel free to just hit 'delete' is uninterested. With kind regards, -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 2 11:38:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D706540E46 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 11:38:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f175.google.com (mail-vc0-f175.google.com [209.85.220.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2349D4042B; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 11:21:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id hf12so684740vcb.6 for ; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 10:18:20 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=nikOzoO/jQG1I+9dVQhfjhy10TdhW7Ek4qRMJRq3zJg=; b=vlJt5JAV+0eXRTCfj6MDDpqo5kdhE8qivI2pWyGZ+QA+k6uI5t1jD01wFb8h7g4CCy 4CyQa4pQw2+V8JRbc2fXaLCZAAwiNfvocCpgMVGh7cgLkTdb5HHn/miKamCiDhv7HF4d cgGCbJ3NZQTe/tBOx2CqjaulkvpiUP5SBdbOsmlveoqlLugz83vbW3aeSF9tdqPFH0Ls YEBRbdblrmKg7ciFmoOWI3bZaKC2s93TMksQoydXXe8CqucYcWA16+rRQUf6T0CBqCNn IR8HeprVrV0BxVW0mzFw86SyykSudmt1uSAJrxBvlYWjkru3XwVN+QR0MPwz9Sb98nAK X7uQ== n2mr13447210vcw.40.1364923099835; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 10:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.18.210 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 10:18:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 12:18:19 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] A little more TD progress. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, This morning I cleaned the garage and worked on a few parts. Its really humid here today so painting was out of the question, after opening the garage door. However, un-painting is viable. :-) Here's a look at the instrument panel (taken by Bill and cropped by me). http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/Instrument_before.jpg Once removed from the facia and on the bench, I coated it with paint stripper. Even the outer edges of the chrome were smeared with black paint by some PO, when the facia was painted. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130402_094932.jpg And 10 minutes later, the paint was stripped and the chrome edge was polished. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130402_100853.jpg That guy is going to look really nice! And that (almost) begs the question; What is the 'correct' finish on the panel? I've seen everything from tan to chrome to body color. The biggest variability I have seen, even in Clausager's book, is in the A, B and C series. The Ds and Fs always seem to be medium-tan. The finish on my panel was brown-to-tan and 'may' have been metallic paint. The interior will be Moss's Honey Tan so my first thought is a medium brown. BUT, your advice would be appreciated. The next project was the horn-push. Here's how it looks once disassembled. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130402_101519.jpg Everything is now restored, the contacts burnished, tested and the metal repainted (before opening the garage door into Houston's humidity). However, the little screw heads are damaged so I'm off to the hardware store for parts. I'll share a picture of the restored switch, complete with new wires, once I have it reassembled. Regards, -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 2 14:42:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571B540E11 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 14:42:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc1-s8.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc1-s8.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9167B40430; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 14:18:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT124-W7 ([65.55.90.8]) by snt0-omc1-s8.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 2 Apr 2013 13:15:52 -0700 From: Mike E To: , , "mg-t@autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 16:15:52 -0400 References: FILETIME=[E01D39E0:01CE2FDE] Subject: Re: [Mg-t] A little more TD progress. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Rick, The dash panel paint is metallic bronze, Moss part #220-530. Same for TD and TF. -Mike EldredWilmington, VT1951 M38 Jeep 1954 MG TF (Need a '60s car!)1973 Midget1977 MGB > Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 12:18:19 -0500 > From: richardolindsay@gmail.com > To: mgs@autox.team.net; mg-t@autox.team.net; rui.gigante@gmail.com > Subject: [Mg-t] A little more TD progress. > > Hi Friends, > > This morning I cleaned the garage and worked on a few parts. Its > really humid here today so painting was out of the question, after > opening the garage door. However, un-painting is viable. :-) > > Here's a look at the instrument panel (taken by Bill and cropped by me). > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/Instrument_before.jpg > > Once removed from the facia and on the bench, I coated it with paint > stripper. Even the outer edges of the chrome were smeared with black > paint by some PO, when the facia was painted. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130402_094932.jpg > > And 10 minutes later, the paint was stripped and the chrome edge was polished. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130402_100853.jpg > > That guy is going to look really nice! And that (almost) begs the > question; What is the 'correct' finish on the panel? I've seen > everything from tan to chrome to body color. The biggest variability > I have seen, even in Clausager's book, is in the A, B and C series. > The Ds and Fs always seem to be medium-tan. The finish on my panel > was brown-to-tan and 'may' have been metallic paint. The interior > will be Moss's Honey Tan so my first thought is a medium brown. BUT, > your advice would be appreciated. > > The next project was the horn-push. Here's how it looks once disassembled. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130402_101519.jpg > > Everything is now restored, the contacts burnished, tested and the > metal repainted (before opening the garage door into Houston's > humidity). However, the little screw heads are damaged so I'm off to > the hardware store for parts. I'll share a picture of the restored > switch, complete with new wires, once I have it reassembled. > > Regards, > > -rick > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/redscirocco@hotmail.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 2 15:29:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA9A40E20 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:29:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C1D2A4042E for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 15:12:14 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1364936969; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=bQtZ9UR/fcw4N2Yf8R+9miRg4cvg8eqif/txI/4HUTlK6Q9misw7M18vJrPP572u5 wnLV+wJzZCXcQmeAczjaC8amAX1jIoXAyr8ooAdVbpc2dOjSKRtktu0O1k5OR61YNT Ss5X87iMcqJfINL3j1s/wHCxFW/WG7Dzg3f8mNdg= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.101]) by smtpout04.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABJXYUJDA6W6E2S for (sender ); Tue, 2 Apr 2013 14:09:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [108.88.216.197] by webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 21:08:09 GMT From: "mgbob@juno.com" Full-Name: "mgbob@juno.com" Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 21:08:09 GMT To: redscirocco@hotmail.com 218d0c214129010c49f90ca52cc1d5e5b1f9e509c5cc81d50d45cdac65ece5fc8de5f928a99528d8a85c95dc989538f865cd35ed98353c4c5888cde19d599905115c7c5c381cac0d1ceca19c0dcc780de9d59dad7171c84de568dcdd71799148c5214d48688915b55d4ca1ac555d252578 Cc: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] [Mgs] A little more TD progress. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Looking better every day, Rick. Hardware store is unlikely to have BA (British Association) fasteners, just something close enough to chew up existing threads. Try Jon Caswell, British Tools and Fasteners, for a source that ships fast. Bob ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Mike E To: , , "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mgs] [Mg-t] A little more TD progress. Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 16:15:52 -0400 Rick, The dash panel paint is metallic bronze, Moss part #220-530. Same for TD and TF. -Mike EldredWilmington, VT1951 M38 Jeep 1954 MG TF (Need a '60s car!)1973 Midget1977 MGB > Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 12:18:19 -0500 > From: richardolindsay@gmail.com > To: mgs@autox.team.net; mg-t@autox.team.net; rui.gigante@gmail.com > Subject: [Mg-t] A little more TD progress. > > Hi Friends, > > This morning I cleaned the garage and worked on a few parts. Its > really humid here today so painting was out of the question, after > opening the garage door. However, un-painting is viable. :-) > > Here's a look at the instrument panel (taken by Bill and cropped by me). > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/Instrument_before.jpg > > Once removed from the facia and on the bench, I coated it with paint > stripper. Even the outer edges of the chrome were smeared with black > paint by some PO, when the facia was painted. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130402_094932.jpg > > And 10 minutes later, the paint was stripped and the chrome edge was polished. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130402_100853.jpg > > That guy is going to look really nice! And that (almost) begs the > question; What is the 'correct' finish on the panel? I've seen > everything from tan to chrome to body color. The biggest variability > I have seen, even in Clausager's book, is in the A, B and C series. > The Ds and Fs always seem to be medium-tan. The finish on my panel > was brown-to-tan and 'may' have been metallic paint. The interior > will be Moss's Honey Tan so my first thought is a medium brown. BUT, > your advice would be appreciated. > > The next project was the horn-push. Here's how it looks once disassembled. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130402_101519.jpg > > Everything is now restored, the contacts burnished, tested and the > metal repainted (before opening the garage door into Houston's > humidity). However, the little screw heads are damaged so I'm off to > the hardware store for parts. I'll share a picture of the restored > switch, complete with new wires, once I have it reassembled. > > Regards, > > -rick > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/redscirocco@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbob@juno.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 2 20:51:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4C6942586 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 20:51:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573B3403D3 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 20:35:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9C00038000095; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 22:33:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mjb002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mjb002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.103.69]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 57CB5E000083; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 22:33:10 -0400 (EDT) References: To: richardolindsay@gmail.com, mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, rui.gigante@gmail.com, neiltshannon@gmail.com From: Sonny Surles Received: from 67.238.166.131 by webmail-d288.sysops.aol.com (205.188.93.234) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 02 Apr 2013 22:33:09 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 22:33:10 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364956390; bh=pF4wwdi/Orj96jGU4ypq9zza7zbqZOywaxU0g3UGTro=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=x7yeRxQLiPjiGSNM2B5xdRmHLsMUSjJR81YglPiraYXjeN2gCEtyYVu/OJojrSuOK ppGRg1ymO49KobhKlTsM+JWzim2F/pr43wUNLrl797s8XA1W7gnAXzvbvUToaxF8aK rT9tIq9UWotbEOOVL/+WXSJrpgI7Op9LgFlAVpH0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d515b94e668b5 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] More TD work, a.k.a. First day of retirement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net This is encouragement for many of us. Thanks for sharing, terrific! Sonny -----Original Message----- From: Richard Lindsay To: mgs ; mg-t ; Rui Gigante ; Neil Shannon Sent: Mon, Apr 1, 2013 4:30 pm Subject: [Mg-t] More TD work, a.k.a. First day of retirement Its the first day of my retirement and...wait for it...YES! I got a call this afternoon from the company asking about some data I processed! No escape! However, I have had a good day in the garage. Story follows; A couple of days ago I wrote to you stating that I would probably rebuild the '53 TD's fuel pump rather than replacing it - and that is what I have done. Here's how the pump looked on the car. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1030.JPG Here's how it looked on the bench with the filter and the fuel chamber removed. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1041.JPG Here's a look at the non-return valve before any cleanup. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1042.JPG Here are the valve parts (almost) ready for reassembly. I say almost because the valve disks still need to be cleaned. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1043.JPG And here's the pump reassembled with new gaskets, the contacts burnished, and tested. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1044.JPG It runs great and looks nice. >From there I moved on to the next component to rebuild; the starter switch. Here's how it looked while still on the car. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1050.JPG Same switch on the bench, awaiting cleanup. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1051.JPG Some fuel pump debris is still on the bench. All has since been cleaned up. Here's a look at the switch, now cleaned up, refinished and tested. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1054.JPG And finally, a look back at the car with the parts removed. This picture is my guide as to the correct placement / orientation of the various mounting brackets. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1053.JPG And that's it for now. I like sharing the work and I know some of you probably enjoy seeing the progress. Please feel free to just hit 'delete' is uninterested. With kind regards, -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/nsurles@aol.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 2 21:36:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5009D4246F for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 21:36:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm3-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.136]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB4740E92 for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2013 21:13:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.196] by nm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2013 03:10:47 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.105] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2013 03:10:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Apr 2013 03:10:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 96197 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Apr 2013 03:10:47 -0000 s=s1024; t=1364958647; bh=/W6QnmtxKZSRGHbCpKqmAtfs/4yJ0a2wjhR05fFEdb4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fvhMS564JjVJtcHWVx8FutmwR+bn/PBRaIcUGRwvcT/7gPh0dQPhjdBWNTAwu1p0x6blhuFONbLeiND8BNgnltF9vliByBZLhc4pqsf3CFb2cVs/8ZhVk7eV14Ytdj0Br+o2tcNyUtG2iQIfSGV/3w6p7cKBwHVielzL16yO51Q= s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cTbd7ikOG41c5A0x9EIzQq7SmrVf6wOFoNnbJ2Dz71UlzDJ5qegXGCExV+DjKYkfxGVKgHsH0GTU8+VT/S7XlQhlmDVAV/28bCpWbUcNdr887h/mMbMC3pe87V07ANpFh18oh0FP/JRhWn/HKls9H/o5t46f6AYPXIRLVU5HASI=; ykNvLTdTXazrlXSOpOqZUtWTMucub_dNyjqgcZmXNIOCRdmPY7xzHbirVKRf cxu5ebWGuzCYfrZwheV5lc_1rojIauclJjNyUPsXg6dN6vwJSGrX9DRhqJ7i K9o1tTbZUp3G.R_hSIf6zy9txN8RHG_HN3XzmnchNwBezM984fm2dct.OP76 Kp6jH8aaff62r9A4SKR9kLgwqhaALjg4Ib.vcmHLiZgQp91J6oxtsJeUFwF2 hdmzSuRU.YxyamsEtLeqmqCM.ChYd26BLmqNq2S9GB2tTOhKPFeSzlErhhkz f1nhb.NLUYAALLMt.N8v6InpgetSp_D9o219TjVThZdZ.d7fjnw2HXRQRpBh wCoTjJaaspsEE.a2g.DaQWfxRgUZA0SS9tNEcvublpZuvpTHCf3kRHNO_9Go VCg_wRiM9wYR8qZdWtHWbIRPlt1lgtDlj4O7Em1UMkUC_N5IjyoE0RPgHM7r VM0cdMr8FDeCj3WKzztMD76VTEQDKWQqOzweJSeQy_tEt4voUD5pjDyLxbY0 xMCMWvopOx9i95lElhmMjUZa7fwq6S8qPWRAxoZlmH.Vt1CirPhxWBZw- Received: from [71.131.185.207] by web181301.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 20:10:47 PDT SSd2ZSByZXN0b3JlZCA1IE1HcyBhbGwgb2Ygd2hpY2ggY2FtZSB0byBtZSBpbiBiYXNrZXRzLi4uSSBmb3VuZCB0aGF0IGlmIHlvdSBkbyBzb21ldGhpbmcgZWFjaCBkYXkgbm8gbWF0dGVyIGhvdyBzbWFsbCwgdGhleSBmaW5hbGx5IGdldCBkb25lISENCk5BLCBUQSwgVEMsIEFybm9sdCwgVEYxNTAwDQpUZXJyeSBpbiBPYWtsYW5kDQoNCi0tLSBPbiBUdWUsIDQvMi8xMywgU29ubnkgU3VybGVzIDxuc3VybGVzQGFvbC5jb20.IHdyb3RlOmggZGF5DQoNCkZyb206IFNvbm55IFN1cmxlcyA8bnN1cmxlc0Bhb2wBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 20:10:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Sanders To: richardolindsay@gmail.com, mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, rui.gigante@gmail.com, neiltshannon@gmail.com, Sonny Surles Subject: Re: [Mg-t] More TD work, a.k.a. First day of retirement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net I've restored 5 MGs all of which came to me in baskets...I found that if you do something each day no matter how small, they finally get done!! NA, TA, TC, Arnolt, TF1500 Terry in Oakland --- On Tue, 4/2/13, Sonny Surles wrote:h day From: Sonny Surles Subject: Re: [Mg-t] More TD work, a.k.a. First day of retirement To: richardolindsay@gmail.com, mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, rui.gigante@gmail.com, neiltshannon@gmail.com Date: Tuesday, April 2, 2013, 7:33 PM This is encouragement for many of us. Thanks for sharing, terrific! Sonny -----Original Message----- From: Richard Lindsay To: mgs ; mg-t ; Rui Gigante ; Neil Shannon Sent: Mon, Apr 1, 2013 4:30 pm Subject: [Mg-t] More TD work, a.k.a. First day of retirement Its the first day of my retirement and...wait for it...YES! I got a call this afternoon from the company asking about some data I processed! No escape! However, I have had a good day in the garage. Story follows; A couple of days ago I wrote to you stating that I would probably rebuild the '53 TD's fuel pump rather than replacing it - and that is what I have done. Here's how the pump looked on the car. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1030.JPG Here's how it looked on the bench with the filter and the fuel chamber removed. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1041.JPG Here's a look at the non-return valve before any cleanup. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1042.JPG Here are the valve parts (almost) ready for reassembly. I say almost because the valve disks still need to be cleaned. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1043.JPG And here's the pump reassembled with new gaskets, the contacts burnished, and tested. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1044.JPG It runs great and looks nice. >From there I moved on to the next component to rebuild; the starter switch. Here's how it looked while still on the car. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1050.JPG Same switch on the bench, awaiting cleanup. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1051.JPG Some fuel pump debris is still on the bench. All has since been cleaned up. Here's a look at the switch, now cleaned up, refinished and tested. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1054.JPG And finally, a look back at the car with the parts removed. This picture is my guide as to the correct placement / orientation of the various mounting brackets. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1053.JPG And that's it for now. I like sharing the work and I know some of you probably enjoy seeing the progress. Please feel free to just hit 'delete' is uninterested. With kind regards, -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/nsurles@aol.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/taterry@pacbell.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 3 06:37:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C23429C2 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 06:37:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f170.google.com (mail-ie0-f170.google.com [209.85.223.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD06403A6; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 06:20:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f170.google.com with SMTP id c11so1607723ieb.29 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 05:17:57 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to :mime-version:content-type; bh=2Cgr7CB7mhBYnYrK3gJj7BOCUFTOwUNgfka5fZopVdg=; b=fUb7ZWS0nAhPn1asBaQSU/Eju4r4H/jfVPIQsplJK1tx9eji3f3XbE10apDlcSeZcU Ijna7TvkFYu0LOgrIxMo2mlqrGbMsYLj74RobfJ0uaiVguVeMbjrRr7Nu97eXgP68Gdy qxZwhxOgc/kC+CRyz7RUOTpuiNllS+yuXlWM2sNA0yaQv7cnKtau3Vq1dOEn+fX/RE9X lRb7y1qndY0YgGk2HVzazuJcPvgE8cmjNxxHVDGgAEl+EzSfojmP2mxW1/Vba8rwg8QB dQ3JyfH4E0In6DZXSg+PA0/IOja9UFlcNmlK8sd7UBXPXxDOaiMFtbTou0UfZpaQquRC 1sPA== Wed, 03 Apr 2013 05:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id in10sm8505977igc.1.2013.04.03.05.17.55 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 03 Apr 2013 05:17:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 07:17:54 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Autumn Red Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone have a picture of (any) MG in Autumn Red, to share please? B Google images returns many options but they all seem to be different. B I'm looking for a rich dark blood red that is neither orangish nor burgundy. B Metallics need not apply. :-p Your advice (and picture) is appreciated. -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 3 18:03:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CCF43069 for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 18:03:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f177.google.com (mail-ve0-f177.google.com [209.85.128.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD0A44302A; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 17:37:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f177.google.com with SMTP id jw11so2176554veb.36 for ; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 16:34:30 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=dcNtzBYyEQSWJ/uPKQ+i1KV4Z2RXWsHC07rvVBiQiBA=; b=lj/Xo52tfCSzzZzcU22+23v2zzEaiJyAYOTKh566haJJLylHL0zhFrkLmQLrA20PTm +tlyIsKLHbqEW/ym7O5ZsCGBQpmv9hNAAxaeM5dY2mGIqGjhu25jrg4Y4cny0YtBwxNj vCE+1ey76+cqHnG1C/MfhtIAg9f5QX/hnk+NXlAMhW6ZLOyXb6gnz+ljXZhZ7JThL/bP d14bN2rQf+YtYXju9A03/WXthc+Ylp+ttKFLiWn1L/j6vhuJdkIhohgfEZbHOse01c+L IqcCYi/ATXdFUZ/a/phRQz+Ggk9jTJwYRk65iv3eJNOmutv13BPSpjQole7UOG7u6360 OcvQ== Wed, 03 Apr 2013 16:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.18.210 with HTTP; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 16:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 18:34:29 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, Neil Shannon , Rui Gigante , Ed Helsing Subject: [Mg-t] Didn't get a lot done today BUT... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net ...I did play with our new grandbaby!!! Woohoo! Hello Friends, I did make progress this afternoon so I'll share that work. First of all, I cleaned the choke cable, inside and out, and cleaned away a little surface rust on the outer sheath. I also cleaned and sprayed the knob with clear acrylic. Once dry, the cable got lightly oiled. Here are the two cables, ready to re-install. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1073.JPG I next cleaned, refinished and tested the turn signal switch. When some PO painted the dash black, the handle also got painted - kinda. Here it is refinished and ready to reassemble and re-install. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1072.JPG I next cleaned and evaluated the power sockets from the instrument panel. The metal bits are fine but the black and red insulators are shot (falling apart) - and they're expensive. I also don't expect to reconnect them so I went for an alternative; two grommets in the holes with the metal bits re-installed. One of the grommets is now red. Later, if I (or someone) wants to reconnect these sockets, the parts are available. Picture of the grommet follows, and in a later picture with the other bits. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1074.JPG The next repairs were made to the 'ignition', 'low fuel' and 'turn signal' lights. As many of you might know, the lamps are 2-1/2 volt units in series with a coils of wire serving as a dropping resistors. Unfortunately, the resistive wires were damaged on all sockets and were damaged further upon removal from the instrument panel. Instead of buying replacements or fighting many feet of tiny wire, I modified the lamp holders by jumpering across the ballast contacts and switching to 12 volt bulbs. Testing verified that the assemblies work fine. That said, I have seen indicators like this with the plastic lens melted by contact with the hot lamp. To address that issue, I am going to use very low wattage bulbs. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1077.JPG Here are the rest of the refurbished bits. From left-to-right; the kludged auxiliary power fittings, the fog lights switch, and the LEAST useful bit of any British car: the dash light dimmer. Really?! Actually, its damaged inside and will be bypassed. The knob hasn't been acrylic coated because its broken. I'll replace it with the push-on aftermarket part from Moss. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1078.JPG And finally, here is the license plate currently on the car. The first owner, in the mid-'50s, held some position on the consular staff in Jordan. I can easily read the 'C.C.125' but the Arabic text is beyond me. Any of you able to read it? http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1075.JPG Happy Wednesday, -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 3 19:02:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995EA4318E for ; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 19:02:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F121543113; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 18:38:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D01A07E8; Wed, 3 Apr 2013 18:37:51 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 18:37:50 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16 To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Mg-t] [Mgs] Didn't get a lot done today BUT... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Richard Lindsay wrote: > ...I did play with our new grandbaby!!! Woohoo! > > > Nice. I really need to get busy on a project or two. As was mentioned doing even just one thing a day gets you closer to the final goal. The weather here in Salt Lake is getting nice and warm, I need to get in the habit of spending at least half in hour in the garage every day. mjb. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 4 20:36:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA12044672 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:36:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f50.google.com (mail-vb0-f50.google.com [209.85.212.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFB344581; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 20:12:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id w15so1795137vbb.37 for ; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 19:09:14 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=3/kSyR+TLI7cXMdDSR/9QqstWq/HfiSPFRz/1UfMVJQ=; b=XqEEGFGTPoPq/JBjwHCnAeW+5QYgLd836Lwum4hPWOnumF7TRkDGGKGYbvev5YWMiI PWN4Yh4E2xlDqfrUxg9Zm8fX+m0yxBC5tQf07kjjRfHJPw+KLBH0qg5SutJM/gSFJFM4 ZG9jiMQ59Sz0tHvCqH1oqJEO0lgibi9g34sZKlFXPZk5/huWupnUbRKsT/MxALxs0Ia8 ENgl1YN0mXAuXrpOpzOw9Dja4UKin97vr9HGKN1teyplNkkLZn6OknB4GD9jP8Q/9JCg Kn0OJN8ASN/Oc1dQJ/RGBFCz2ONeN8xbp0mlOAQTvgWKVokOxowwf8bEC0vsQFr5pWRw 4UUg== ge15mr6763104vcb.15.1365127754359; Thu, 04 Apr 2013 19:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.18.210 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Apr 2013 19:09:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2013 21:09:14 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante , Ed Helsing , Neil Shannon Subject: [Mg-t] Combo oil pressure / coolant temperature gauge Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, Today was a grandbaby hugging day so not a lot of car work got done. This evening I did clean the combo gauge and while its LOTS better, it still has a lot of 'patina' on the face. Here's how it looked when I started. (The website is REALLY slow this evening so if you can't get to the pictures, please try a little later. The ghost's in the machine!) http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1070.JPG Here it is, as it looks after tonight's work. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1080.JPG I'll paint the gauge hands before final reassembly and put a new wrap of green cellophane around the light opening. These little buggers are really expensive so I don't want to mess with it too much and risk damage. I think it will be just fine as is, if showing a little character. If I change my mind later, there are reputable shops who can restore the instrument. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 5 03:43:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5329B44935 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 03:43:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D3D44841 for ; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 03:23:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta16.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.88]) by qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id L9LR1l0041uE5Es5D9LvYP; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 09:20:55 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([98.229.243.26]) by omta16.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id L9Jv1l0060atUmS3c9JvT6; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 09:18:55 +0000 Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2013 05:19:11 -0400 From: Bud Krueger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16.2 To: Richard Lindsay , mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante , Ed Helsing , Neil Shannon References: s=q20121106; t=1365153655; bh=MYo4mNxfBbtFgTZw7gF9W0vNmyN2ocW5nWLGl5WBC3M=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=MRw3cx+794+niojdqUrT8bzhHiRWZGyZvsztvNc9KNLsYrtX7RItA+GLFhBkqCYPw S4sRJKw+k7OPN21qyS7vcAjAxLXjDhZ/ovekMgiGjeZ8D2CXTCsVQsZF1/JIUan8hM XjTPDH6MfOhFr0Vg2xr0G2jB6MhSH0lnhtg631xe8ih8MxZt8hsWLFZoOgKTZRmwZ5 D84I/2fkMAFmN0I8bXYjsNHy34CC5/zmAtEumfhxCStyb7lj7NwyzCVbnFCHOdjGmg avANapVQx5Fg4VQecc0u+E3ioi0GRJwPkVGDBOw5UZGxo77eDR5LATOsvTiZ4cWcgH dH6zRebNmCGJw== Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Combo oil pressure / coolant temperature gauge Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Rick, While you have it out you might as well check its calibration. Just put the temperature sensor bulb into a pan of boiling water and see where the needle goes. Bud Richard Lindsay wrote: > Hello Friends, > > Today was a grandbaby hugging day so not a lot of car work got done. > This evening I did clean the combo gauge and while its LOTS better, it > still has a lot of 'patina' on the face. Here's how it looked when I > started. (The website is REALLY slow this evening so if you can't get > to the pictures, please try a little later. The ghost's in the > machine!) > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1070.JPG > > Here it is, as it looks after tonight's work. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1080.JPG > > I'll paint the gauge hands before final reassembly and put a new wrap > of green cellophane around the light opening. These little buggers > are really expensive so I don't want to mess with it too much and risk > damage. I think it will be just fine as is, if showing a little > character. If I change my mind later, there are reputable shops who > can restore the instrument. > > -rick > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/budkrueger@comcast.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 6 00:05:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE49442C73 for ; Sat, 6 Apr 2013 00:05:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f179.google.com (mail-ve0-f179.google.com [209.85.128.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0312403E0; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 23:52:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f179.google.com with SMTP id cz11so4112735veb.38 for ; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 22:51:57 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=tlDV5xqAQuKYjP8h4uhkHyeAL+pKvc149s2XCXy4z6U=; b=aOMb34zVVJmWyNc6X01O00qZ3WP2XRI6ELCLqTbG6IeNKBz+9cieFGONskotgnCks7 jaHDO2q/QoIR8EWyhPs69Y7+vdC6ybrG+rOgsyHpIV9pM/rB9XMJLISSRiVZgoEXpJUs DEg7hA1ubvD/DZbh2LraDuIKdvOQxg46fe6ZeMCSnJRGsGhtf7tMkftFh2LCTHh3xZAA BYtMMlBs5EqQkybLQHDxRNr/8DudqNLyXwwxSNNc0siw564lIkVtwNAa2E9dibYddXZ9 wSyOZENpiKJUo1wne51AUOw7pKffvrfmhfgPZIh9UkTDo6x55ZRdB3uJAqwiGbAcPaLW 2vCA== wv3mr8114417vdb.82.1365196776387; Fri, 05 Apr 2013 14:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.18.210 with HTTP; Fri, 5 Apr 2013 14:19:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2013 16:19:36 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, Neil Shannon , Ed Helsing , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Friday's TD work Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, More work today. Retirement is fun. :-P After cleaning up the workbench, work began on the facia. Here's how it looked just as I removed it from the car. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1081.JPG The vinyl has been sprayed black - along with parts of the chrome trim. In this next close-up you can see better the original interior green color. The exterior of the car was originally Woodland Green. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1082.JPG The first disassembly work started at the glove box door. I had previously removed the hinges. Here's how it looked on the bench with the chrome trim and the vinyl removed. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1083.JPG In that last picture you can just see the split wood allowing screws to work loose. In this next picture you can easily see the wood delaminating and splitting from years of use stressing at the wood screw holes. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1084.JPG Before affecting repairs to the wood, I took three photos of the facia with the trim removed but the vinyl in place, just as a reminder of how the factory attached the vinyl. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1085.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1086.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1087.JPG I then set about repairing the glove box door wood. After a good cleaning, I flowed waterproof wood glue between the laminae and into the splits. I then clamped the wood closed and wiped away any glue oozing from the repairs. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1088.JPG Working all around the door (until I ran out of clamps) I repeated the process. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1089.JPG That work is now drying and won't be touched until later tomorrow. I then removed the windscreen and the mounts. Here's how the metal looks. Yes, I have some work to do here. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1090.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1091.JPG In the second picture, you may have noticed that the inside rear-view mirror has also been removed. It looked TERRIBLE and I felt that it was a goner - until I attacked it with Semichrome polish and fine steel wool. Its totally restored now and looks awesome. I didn't get a picture after I finished but here's a look at it just after discovering that it WOULD clean up nicely. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130405_143922.jpg And that's where work ended for today. Time for the shower. Nancy says I stink. :-o -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 7 14:51:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85D344552C for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 14:51:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f177.google.com (mail-vc0-f177.google.com [209.85.220.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF25454AA; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 14:51:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id hr11so681747vcb.8 for ; Sun, 07 Apr 2013 13:50:49 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=FNI6Fp0yNBPVx5EBg3xCAJBLtoxeIRp0o1bj2aCtWrk=; b=NsT0FcBfRigAvvDjdylfohvTObj7A6lA4BGFGRSmt455b6ngffbF/p2RB4GUrUM8oA dgnhKD44U82akpqP039JO3BUZULYK3nox65WYhkvo1+7rHBWp4BsnbAwdTqMU2zUCn6l WHlL2q8pvv53zrR8wdOR1egcgrlN9Axjd89Xl2w9LDZrmQ6w8lJsB+8hz8gIKoFpgQN+ KJGCtq64l1pDO6XUFiPIBlEzkEcDIu06pqDa/JecrIpzabl4GYqzjrKXShcmLq8yskRu 9SBb0nMTS4ccxmiViZ5WzZN32qI9Onc/nfKArIhgVP7KzTFZlHPyF248qvNT1lgMBmx8 ciMw== bq7mr13668279ved.51.1365367848897; Sun, 07 Apr 2013 13:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.18.210 with HTTP; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 13:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 15:50:48 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Okay, this is just weird. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Today, I removed the trim from the TD's doors. Inside I found one plastic chopstix laying on the bottom timber of each door. Yes, BOTH doors! Freekin' weird. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 7 15:02:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F554557C for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 15:01:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.184]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8559545466 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 15:00:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm24.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2013 21:00:00 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.45] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2013 21:00:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp113.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2013 21:00:00 -0000 s=s1024; t=1365368400; bh=CQypLLwTOH02fsEZp8fv10DxXQYr9ekRLNRH0/fgseY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=wCE/R6YtPH9v1/BGftFll1CfLcgpTxP7GqEphll14B12OqhRRx3VDBPTQ/e2KnBoHsL87P3sUZK6ZDjZCNv5ALsM+mg05K95jG7m9u3kLoG1DYNKs0PfV0cisRqJ2e/CZB7tcDI8uQr0jBptNbaPLf/up1JkKL7RypQ8mUDjnTk= 76bN6efAVKHT2aksK_KstB2sjDr4DSnPFfcUXUpbsVAPtzOumbgw3l3Uw9sz qURaxptjguv7snK_ZuvvGs6mJdyE8teE_39wn2JCIkxnvVdvhg.MtDTcpmWd k887PKoIycRTh3FFKX0vqXx93_3D5SmnWGFr4lzn8RkkUjfaAHVlCMLQvH4J KLCChV7vOyZRhh.MkmlMSl33k0thni8OGOvgelL8_0_SoVblHRz9JuOFfSfn QWsnlqfNLiMPbv6Qcus1VMZShESSLbiCWX.3SiwCPuN4kQYBKxfUkr8jbLDC mFPjAU.OH1u.5XiELPAKX18ovUPeQu7cZbT9WvwEazjwOTzNYHlaGPsBqQx6 eOUgxHqcvX7hffxioqPyiOXFRKt3lgeeD3iRKi0cN.Y1V8xAgvFYhtxPvzyf kFuTCQPF8K_Rntnli8nDxOQ-- plain) by smtp113.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 07 Apr 2013 14:00:00 -0700 PDT References: From: WBEECH Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2013 15:59:56 -0500 To: Richard Lindsay Cc: Rui Gigante , "mgs@autox.team.net" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Okay, this is just weird. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Just now, someone is having nice giggle over something they did 20 years ago. Sent from mobile Bill On Apr 7, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Richard Lindsay wrote: Today, I removed the trim from the TD's doors. Inside I found one plastic chopstix laying on the bottom timber of each door. Yes, BOTH doors! Freekin' weird. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/wbeech@flash.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 7 15:08:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8EC445569 for ; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 15:08:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D1F454C7; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 15:08:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 565B7A0CFE; Sun, 7 Apr 2013 15:09:33 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2013 15:09:32 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16.2 To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Mg-t] [Mgs] Okay, this is just weird. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Richard Lindsay wrote: > Today, I removed the trim from the TD's doors. Inside I found one > plastic chopstix laying on the bottom timber of each door. Yes, BOTH > doors! > Gotta keep the weight distribution even from side to side. mjb. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 8 10:19:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCE2E44882 for ; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 10:19:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f169.google.com (mail-ve0-f169.google.com [209.85.128.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA51E446B2; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 10:19:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f169.google.com with SMTP id d10so5630504vea.28 for ; Mon, 08 Apr 2013 09:18:56 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Bm3p5tnh21Djcz7nZBGfXeRfa1fzd88wGYgWOJ5Hg0g=; b=cWVCt3FS6PzWZgyxq6IaSlQ3wzhQsDWbgvcwj7pDuoHly6gcxqxU3niBJNlkDHrbpF pQTDl8cd5+1YJUAPLOEZkko+OnAbfW9TiuwSkATn+L2P+IhnDxeY/Pk9oCV5kkMfRals vPub2xUh5oePMxQO9VuDCK4LZwE0xhQ4Eb5JamlKWZ0him+yZ9KNRpcMnvxfrb3DdpX3 omIK+6W0gB1MGxPaM64f+vk/YUx4I2ln/a2jQdSVroAKLvWKusPnKqxWwqEnwnW4OSWH hNM2U1rLZMp8sJZfOpnYEpMYgyqbSJOncXIuXuIGE3BSfsB+BkfcBCenuEM3YlKwQrHA SfHQ== cz1mr13655516vdc.7.1365437936229; Mon, 08 Apr 2013 09:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.18.210 with HTTP; Mon, 8 Apr 2013 09:18:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 11:18:56 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] '53 M.G. TD documentation pictures Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, Today I just took a lot of 'documentation' pictures. At reassembly time, there can NEVER be TOO MANY pictures - although I do take a lot... If you would like to see more 'before' pictures of the '53 TD's various bits, go to www.aubard.us/MGTD and start at picture: http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1092.JPG ...through... http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1176.JPG -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 9 17:41:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2714573D for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 17:41:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f180.google.com (mail-vc0-f180.google.com [209.85.220.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3534642D66; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 17:41:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id m16so1980520vca.11 for ; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 16:40:05 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Ne2pkshkvtmikbf+mdwVM21eZglqg2oV548aV/qzZLQ=; b=v1b3A9bcl5f9CjJw8LwOT5BAWZArHwflNPaWwSbjrqJOCG/CgaiEeLOQo7fJotFG2K s70Tnb9CrpAdZmGMJP0CYvMGi5tde9fqvCeS3K3LJAbDZDLqwhVUmfvf7MNdWZXBGrSp O8ZDix7lrRu65XAPUQbndhx9qGnv/rbJrCrnDZlAfY4ZeYLWNREMolWy4J7Ez1Ing04T /74/ijLw4rDq4Lo8ut/GkL/5r2NqNznOxNVrF3luMHO9bOAgAjTJNYAv2gf8p0ABVhC+ vlptDQFQs9pm2o7OobbD7svS93b8NoPm9BzprdInAbWPDGpYrJnu0Yqo0w1gLtezJDvG 5RGA== ge15mr20973540vcb.15.1365550805270; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 16:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.18.210 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 16:40:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 18:40:05 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Thank you List! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, I'd like to thank the list-member who argued that I should bite the bullet and buy the correct Moss paint for the TD's instrument cluster. Sadly, I can't remember who it was. I was leaning toward using some kind of paint from the garage shelf, probably because of my Scottish ancestry (read: being CHEAP). However, I did order the correct paint and here are the results. First of all, I stripped the old finish with Aircraft Stripper... http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130402_094932.jpg ..., then polished the chrome edges of the panel. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130402_100853.jpg I then taped and primered with an automotive primer that adheres better to bare metal, like chrome. I then applied the first mist coat of paint. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130409_171710.jpg And here's how it looks now with two coats of the Moss finish and the masking tape removed. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130409_172451_1.jpg I think it looks AWESOME. Thank you MG List! And now, I have a question for you same great guys. What color are the blind-headed screws used to attach the panel? I've seen pictures of black screws and screws painted with the bronze paint. Which is 'correct', if either? -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 9 17:48:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C1DB45806 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 17:48:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DC745746 for ; Tue, 9 Apr 2013 17:48:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta21.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.72]) by qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id MrGp1l00L1ZXKqc51znNFp; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 23:47:22 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([98.229.243.26]) by omta21.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id MzlN1l0030atUmS3hzlNa2; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 23:45:22 +0000 Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 19:45:24 -0400 From: Bud Krueger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17 To: Richard Lindsay , mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante References: s=q20121106; t=1365551242; bh=R5oy1dFl6TZVR3A+ys4CqhIwFSDLzmMyWWtWx70ewzw=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=ApsO0f0BElAUJienGWQ8Vgk0M9Wj7KvrHAqaeP6i867KbB7WFyZbtseOByYXQYgWi HgME0f6KKTE8zhAD6MUjXMmeu/C6Yqx7hhd9t7aJBX6nPlAlzdHFOBN8SB7p2enjH6 O5sP2l64Nra8gS5FBQ+w/+5MrM6Db7WDYT1VJeTZA/ix/Cw/JjPsMBMDpunHuCjzqU cDCOx+ww02jaEnX/GZHe5zbN7AHwXbg/BWa7assu51MiR7JiEPKewLs+WOCLiJM6/D Wh0QuF+Lod5w2h/8hSMAnw6LgtIHjKw6xTvLX7U5gx1LdOf7LMaGyd+dxrLtEhdU84 mjTI+4T8aBVcw== Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Thank you List! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net The heads of the screws are black, Rick. Panel looks great. Bud http://www.ttalk.info/ Richard Lindsay wrote: > Hello Friends, > > I'd like to thank the list-member who argued that I should bite the > bullet and buy the correct Moss paint for the TD's instrument cluster. > Sadly, I can't remember who it was. I was leaning toward using some > kind of paint from the garage shelf, probably because of my Scottish > ancestry (read: being CHEAP). However, I did order the correct paint > and here are the results. > > First of all, I stripped the old finish with Aircraft Stripper... > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130402_094932.jpg > > ..., then polished the chrome edges of the panel. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130402_100853.jpg > > I then taped and primered with an automotive primer that adheres > better to bare metal, like chrome. I then applied the first mist coat > of paint. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130409_171710.jpg > > And here's how it looks now with two coats of the Moss finish and the > masking tape removed. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130409_172451_1.jpg > > I think it looks AWESOME. Thank you MG List! > > And now, I have a question for you same great guys. > > What color are the blind-headed screws used to attach the panel? I've > seen pictures of black screws and screws painted with the bronze > paint. Which is 'correct', if either? > > -rick > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/budkrueger@comcast.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 10 10:05:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8666844261 for ; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 10:05:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s2.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s2.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2BC04395C; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 10:05:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU177-W37 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s2.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 10 Apr 2013 09:04:04 -0700 From: Mike E To: Richard Lindsay , "mgs@autox.team.net" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , Rui Gigante Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 12:04:04 -0400 References: FILETIME=[062D1FC0:01CE3605] Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Thank you List! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net It looks great. I really need to do the one in my TF. -Mike EldredWilmington, VT > Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 18:40:05 -0500 > From: richardolindsay@gmail.com > To: mgs@autox.team.net; mg-t@autox.team.net; rui.gigante@gmail.com > Subject: [Mg-t] Thank you List! > > Hello Friends, > > I'd like to thank the list-member who argued that I should bite the > bullet and buy the correct Moss paint for the TD's instrument cluster. > Sadly, I can't remember who it was. I was leaning toward using some > kind of paint from the garage shelf, probably because of my Scottish > ancestry (read: being CHEAP). However, I did order the correct paint > and here are the results. > > First of all, I stripped the old finish with Aircraft Stripper... > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130402_094932.jpg > > ..., then polished the chrome edges of the panel. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130402_100853.jpg > > I then taped and primered with an automotive primer that adheres > better to bare metal, like chrome. I then applied the first mist coat > of paint. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130409_171710.jpg > > And here's how it looks now with two coats of the Moss finish and the > masking tape removed. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130409_172451_1.jpg > > I think it looks AWESOME. Thank you MG List! > > And now, I have a question for you same great guys. > > What color are the blind-headed screws used to attach the panel? I've > seen pictures of black screws and screws painted with the bronze > paint. Which is 'correct', if either? > > -rick > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/redscirocco@hotmail.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 11 15:01:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF1944243 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:01:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74C4429EA for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:00:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Nb6C1l0060ldTLk53kz5nP; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 20:59:05 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([98.229.243.26]) by omta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Nkx51l0090atUmS3Qkx5kX; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 20:57:05 +0000 Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 16:57:10 -0400 From: Bud Krueger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17 To: Richard Lindsay , mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante References: s=q20121106; t=1365713945; bh=VTaG9Xdk71ihbg5/B+eDbIuHYHePILtDjwJTLoi4Ipg=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=hEXMBlKT7tpAB7MGxbSnI+Q92u6rIMfz87erNOLRKuMD0hTb3kEdwgFJ+yaE6GCkZ ONe4qtjrQEL0F6WU25QSjVuJNlAr4MYmOJ16uLUSfrCplUrAyq792nGrl4CBEz6f0S kipNsIyl1h8m3xvY6t3VzSECy4A1cp/ls820vfVjX6bjh6MnLeXc+1KBLO5zih6oW0 YQnAAmdfJzlpzTX3KtGyQL7tVt97twHB3U80WMa7BY5HmhyGz3HY96GyhEUQxkQmQc FjEIDH496hDWMr2XYWT/M4NvqYAtAQ/nCA5JQSj7vARZNwZ0Nqn0z9N+Tt35VN0ohk z6Pq4jstpqcTA== Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Thursday TD progress Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Rick, See http://www.ttalk.info/Directionals.htm - there is a tab between terminals 6 & 7 to assure cover orientation. Bud Richard Lindsay wrote: > Hi again Friends, > > Little by little the TD project is moving along. As I'm sure you are > aware, this is an EVERYTHING restoration. Nothing on the car should > be by-passed. That said, a lot of the stuff works with simple > cleaning / maintenance. The latest in that quest is the turn signal > relay box. Here's how it looks with the cover off. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1179.JPG > > And there are two points I wish to make about this refurbishment. (1) > The cover comes right off allowing cleaning and refinishing, BUT, it > is not keyed to fit only one way. That means, when you take it off, > if you loose track of how it came off, you have to figure out which > side is 1-4 and which side is 5-8! Trust me. I learned the hard way. > I had to go back to the wiring diagram to work it out! (2) The > little craftsman metric wrench with the goofy box-end arrangement > works GREAT for those of us who attach rusty Whitworth bolts and nuts! > WELL worth the investment. (Got mine for Christmas and thought I'd > never use them!) > > I cleaned the relay cover on the wire wheel then gave it a thin coat > of 'cast-coat aluminum' engine paint. That stuff is great. I also > burnished the relay contacts and verified that they both work, as > advertised, using my bench power supply. Here's how the bits look > cleaned up and painted but before assembly. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1180.JPG > > And after assembly (the right way around)! > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1181.JPG > > After that work was done, I removed the fuse block and voltage > regulator. I have new units for both, thanks to Bill including them > with the car, so I have not spent time cleaning up these bits. I did > repaint the mounting screw heads black (yea, I'm pathetic and need a > life). Here's how that area looks now that the electrical bits are > removed (sans coil). > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1184.JPG > > I have applied rust eater to a bunch of bolts and nuts so that has to > set for a while. In the mean time, and just for completeness, I took > a few more documentation pictures. There's no such things as too many > pictures. Here are a few odds and ends. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1185.JPG > > Those floorboards are going to be a P.I.T.A. to remove as the nuts are > on the bottom exposed to rust-city! > > The handbrake adjusters are soaking in rust eater. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1186.JPG > > Same with the rear tunnel bolts. They're soaking. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1187.JPG > > Other bits. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1188.JPG > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1189.JPG > > -rick > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/budkrueger@comcast.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 12 15:02:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CB3A452C0 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:02:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f177.google.com (mail-we0-f177.google.com [74.125.82.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC74845285; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:02:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f177.google.com with SMTP id o7so216455wea.8 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:01:24 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=L9MZHjdAF3QkjmObiL8nT55ZOTdiW+0ne/pQJB2viYc=; b=bwlL98TB0j1A1vx7UMF0ZWARkox+1Na95vJ5MRoJGhNXvXH5MSmg4wTCA3bZ3uM4Ig zjlXCJjNJelWYJXIys16c43wB6JZAU79AiOeUb8ZPe2slzi7v0n+laSspJc1c6+V5Hgz 3FmiDBofNN6JnX3to1Wd7FECB3MA4srg8nM7FX9jg4MHBMMKq6BTyuNLrxZrO88jOaqd /xkw2ycMf7BhwRdBPaE6I+wz5ZSOcU2sGf/AauEfKQch5VNyULVFn0XqcRtGvlT4URG9 h+UnShSkuGpz1aa+uwrURd1QmCZlowvmhU8OPcPV1Pt2Sp/JPR1istnk/RfZYrUxqKwD 61yQ== fu1mr309552wib.4.1365800484032; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:01:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.221.9 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:01:23 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:01:23 -0500 From: Mark Stolzenburg To: Richard Lindsay Cc: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] A couple pictures from yesterday Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Rick, I am absolutely astonished by your progress and determination. And you even have time to take pictures and do write-up's of your progress on the Internet. You are making me feel really guilty :>). I also recent purchased an unrestored MG, a 1954 MGTF 1500. It's a California black plate car that is an original "survivor" car. I'm currently working on the mechanical items, brakes, motor mounts, pedal shaft/bushing etc. The body on this car is solid enough that I might just get it street worthy and have some fun before a full restoration. Anyway, one of your pictures showed you using Simi Chrome Polish which I believe is a German product. I've never heard of it before.What can you tell me about it. Thanks and keep the progress reports coming! Mark Stolzenburg Chesterfield, Missouri ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 14 11:49:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2039E4426B for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:49:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from nm30-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm30-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C8542A01 for ; Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:49:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.102] by nm30.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2013 17:47:55 -0000 Received: from [67.195.23.148] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2013 17:47:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp120.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Apr 2013 17:47:55 -0000 EV6cxKTzfQmr2hau0ZgB44J0FNpjvi9A1IvWdkLRM27ZkJT2oFD7i8Zsj1Fi lTTuUntjNMOSc_8AH071U5KxmmbVDDRimaa9dpdr3.AVZAx._qOVg6aeB0Gb 2d4Pj6O06S8QIgUO1KbPzHmu6GjEo64byabHeqtucqQb5IYknxstWyzV9Gca CIxYRDsYwjWJz6oe4Skto9YJ_UtVn4DwvTF6RAyPinrKlK05DJeew3cAhI53 Wgx6RIbIfZ4nZGaD9Hzv1ahaxOzlmL8Snu3Q1rzXsEu7Ft9H6v7x_eXUpBj. SK5TUP4N_ysSRDCyweKt2kUZ69XPDXfobJC.fXcSrujdC5E.oHPCj6g0BCqj .moHLNdneKZ7eyXcYWiFkvI5KG_COmo0pIRytIBaMOYUmrUfCJRjD9QXk_Ng Sx9ORfZM- smtp120.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Apr 2013 17:47:55 +0000 UTC From: Duvall Video Productions Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 12:47:51 -0500 To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] distributor gear pin Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net On an early Lucas distributor, can I use a spring pin instead of a dowel pin to hold the gear on? ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 15 01:58:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFB944457B for ; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 01:58:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com [81.103.221.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A4043C99; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 01:49:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20130415074750.LBYM4711.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com>; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 08:47:50 +0100 Received: from cypress ([86.8.152.135]) by aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vG.3.00.04.00 201-2196-133-20080908) with SMTP id <20130415074750.YYNJ12753.aamtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@cypress>; Mon, 15 Apr 2013 08:47:50 +0100 From: "Clive Sherriff" To: "Duvall Video Productions" , , References: <56F71ED7-8FA4-400A-A6EE-74552DE2B3A4@duvallvideo.com> Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 08:47:50 +0100 cv=AUhbpHVS+xhHrj9wLCYAQoYnFLYUZdbP8UM0GmH2jwk= c=1 sm=0 a=9Gq1rglfE7kA:10 a=uObrxnre4hsA:10 a=Gs_J0NPePjEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=VGxG94oaAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=ESjS3DNt4R6deajvrUIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=gkfSzkTfGfcA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] distributor gear pin Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net I have used spring pins for the distributor gear with no problems. The drive of the distributor does not take any significant load, unlike the oil pump drive, and in fact, the strength of the higher quality spring steel material, over the plain mild steel original pin, probably means that the spring pin may actually be stronger. Clive = ==================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: "Duvall Video Productions" To: ; Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 6:47 PM Subject: [Mg-t] distributor gear pin > On an early Lucas distributor, can I use a spring pin instead of a dowel > pin > to hold the gear on? > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/clive.sherriff@ntlworld.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 20 10:02:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8DD42A05 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 10:02:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f51.google.com (mail-vb0-f51.google.com [209.85.212.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389FB42926; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 10:02:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id x19so4533764vbf.24 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 09:01:14 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8GCM7CVXB4KEYNG6Rr4+YvPZIT/nhMLlhRyIyBOUc2w=; b=bmWBYh1mQkVySo08olloDDdLgQUGSRJP+2hEnT4e4lTiGc6tvrvVkC0wDagOSaWDPZ 82EBPxBcZEifzu/7iyazWo/2TOiZGCtqlNl9siSdAtTwZ52TOOx8jl8EmqCNVR9mr0NH 8TRfhkOclFdCSq1P1rXzPgReNcjc6ejNYuRhiI8EQ8mGx6nyOWRdOrn6WChOTPIvgbfr tXR3OpplZoLeFdzF0EU2FdaFdxb2takymYUZ3ITkyUdg3IF6ZDkH8CDZ87War9dGEwSZ K00gpzPG+GjXo/5v/AaXUiWQ8MBxQ921qniSrSXFbCNp62GlSHe1VJtyzvoAQkz1mOHN SQAg== o13mr14870077vcp.22.1366473674444; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 09:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.18.210 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 09:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 11:01:14 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Thank you again. Even better than expected! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, This note is intended to share a technique and to thank Mr. Bud K., who once again had the right answer! Earlier I posted a picture (or twelve) of the tach and speedo cleanups. If interested, you might remember that I painted the inner trim rings brown, resulting in this appearance. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1066.JPG While some might argue that the look is 'attractive' or perhaps just 'acceptable', Mr. K wrote, "...it just won't look right." and that prompted me to take his sage advice and rework the gauges. Bud recommended a Valspar paint from Lowe's but the only option they offered me was a QUART of flat latex in the color recommended. Nothing in spray can format. Instead, I took a color sample card to my neighborhood Ace Hardware ( a.k.a. my generic autoparts store. :-P ) and had a half-pint 'sample' mixed in a nearly-perfect match to the Lowe's color. The little can of paint was mixed in egg-shell so its a soft semi-gloss. With this paint, I applied the base-coat to the trim rings. After a night of drying I took the rings out into the driveway and gave them a very light dusting of aluminum spray paint over the teal-green - just to add that metallic luster found on the gauge faces. When sprayed from about half a meter away, in short bursts, here's how the rings looked. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130420_100130.jpg And here's how the trim rings look re-installed in the gauges. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130420_100506.jpg Bud was right - again. I think they look just fantastic. His color and the light dusting of aluminum made for an excellent match. Thanks everyone! -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 20 10:36:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6317342A36 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 10:36:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1ACD42A15 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 10:36:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SGS71l0041HzFnQ5EGbU4b; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 16:35:28 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([98.229.243.26]) by omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SGZT1l00R0atUmS3aGZTut; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 16:33:28 +0000 Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 12:33:34 -0400 From: Bud Krueger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: Richard Lindsay , mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante References: s=q20121106; t=1366475728; bh=bUIYZsfSrNm8gCAMIxdenYHtNcmnT17MQCpUB3OzrFI=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=IVDeD6aTGRivzkLQw/di4I0oSQ/8MFvp4bSe9qGaerT2X1Gj0NIhgBE2v1cmU8EmR yjjc+utqrrzbgVQZaxQw2Y0ycEvm+zl4xdnf+ThU1wyJOicHqXKxPldElmaPTkuTYO 6+7V3Qo8fVcZcPqPj/mDGk0IVNqqOCKUaOaFbmexqnD2hdzrQy+lugMtva4DaCZlj9 FikkMgB1jaAVqaqPfH9EmtzBw1YmsX3k3Xt12S4huH7fZws/dqB6W8zX9gRDmVturm 0dpWjX7M68gNhcBPth3cGlkfcxmEeU8NwCNnNxmLqCSbMmhZ7pNehHSWoIJf7z9uep Lalf6vbtnDtQw== Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Thank you again. Even better than expected! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thank you for the kudos, Richard. Your dusting of aluminum spray was a great idea to tone down the green. Bud Richard Lindsay wrote: > Hello Friends, > > This note is intended to share a technique and to thank Mr. Bud K., > who once again had the right answer! > > Earlier I posted a picture (or twelve) of the tach and speedo > cleanups. If interested, you might remember that I painted the inner > trim rings brown, resulting in this appearance. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1066.JPG > > While some might argue that the look is 'attractive' or perhaps just > 'acceptable', Mr. K wrote, "...it just won't look right." and that > prompted me to take his sage advice and rework the gauges. > > Bud recommended a Valspar paint from Lowe's but the only option they > offered me was a QUART of flat latex in the color recommended. > Nothing in spray can format. Instead, I took a color sample card to > my neighborhood Ace Hardware ( a.k.a. my generic autoparts store. :-P > ) and had a half-pint 'sample' mixed in a nearly-perfect match to the > Lowe's color. The little can of paint was mixed in egg-shell so its a > soft semi-gloss. With this paint, I applied the base-coat to the trim > rings. > > After a night of drying I took the rings out into the driveway and > gave them a very light dusting of aluminum spray paint over the > teal-green - just to add that metallic luster found on the gauge > faces. When sprayed from about half a meter away, in short bursts, > here's how the rings looked. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130420_100130.jpg > > And here's how the trim rings look re-installed in the gauges. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130420_100506.jpg > > Bud was right - again. I think they look just fantastic. His color > and the light dusting of aluminum made for an excellent match. > Thanks everyone! > > -rick > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/budkrueger@comcast.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 20 15:32:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC2042AE1 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 15:32:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D5D425B8; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 15:31:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id ht11so2824136vcb.27 for ; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 14:30:38 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ovuVUimno3HD/YhTEHnSK4lXOgFhm/Y2+oDiZrkImwY=; b=q07JjUCR00a8KcHwv/0vFUiMjyHyg+zfedTFZbyTbdp8pY95I9D1S5QD05ZAuFVZzz E77Z7LGFA/nB/LnGFdTVsgGD1aZTtsGUfv/MDTwH/BEgzAjR/TddXMionAy8cjXwtOU3 S1Udig/5hIu/67JBV2q9MTAhPR/w4TDVTXnqc1JO/g2MR+CkD4pLxvk4qH8bpxWUKaxS KMHi+04MFgps6SLYTZuogXZnAKsrwEJ5sjWE+bN5/12M0o0VHTBhTCJJcS/Zz8L35EyQ STkGqECekfVlAQZyIZ8iM3QeW1gJ06UvhXvXslPYGsZKKVJXAB9nuwFuiyRQrsB+lfF5 dAfg== d5mr15090189vch.47.1366493438439; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 14:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.18.210 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Apr 2013 14:30:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2013 16:30:38 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Experiments with metal, etc. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, This afternoon I took a look at the wood and metal on the right-rear side of the tub. This pictures shows the good and the bad of the body tub. Fortunately, the bad is easily repaired. The good is, well, ...good. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130420_154459.jpg The view above, inside the rear quarter, shows the wood to be in great condition except for the zillions of nail and screw holes. Some PO years ago, installed this interior without removing the tacks from the previous installation - which may or may not have been the original. That means that after pulling all those tacks, the wood is left full of holes! The screw holes are wallowed out or have split the wood. Fortunately, it has no wood rot! Therefore, the solution will be to glue and clamp the splits and glue wooden toothpicks in all the holes - including the screw holes. Then, at installation time, a proper wood screw drill bit will be used to drill new correct-size holes. Please notice that the inner wheel-well has surface rust but the metal is beautifully sound! I'll clean it with MetalReady then coat it with POR15. Because the body metal here has bits of surface rust where the paint has chipped off, I experimented with stripping a little of the paint and sanding the metal. Here's how it looks. I've only done the upper edge. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130420_154442.jpg Here's another look where you can see the leaded corner, carefully stripped of paint, http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130420_154447.jpg And by this time, I was really tired so I put a light coat of red primer on the bare metal and called it a day. Sorry for the poor focus. In this picture the primer was not yet dry. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130420_155057.jpg One last comment: The screws securing the wood panel over the differential, are terribly rusted and will almost certainly have to be drilled out. With a little luck, I'll be able to re-tap the threaded metal and use new screws. If not, I'll find some other cool way of attaching the panel. That's it. Good evening. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 22 09:58:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BC2442DE4 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 09:58:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail2.ecu.edu (mail2.ecu.edu [150.216.17.112]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0965442BF3 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 09:58:05 -0600 (MDT) d="scan'208,217";a="262860350" Received: from unknown (HELO Hub2.intra.ecu.edu) ([150.216.17.189]) by ironport2.ecu.edu with ESMTP; 22 Apr 2013 11:57:04 -0400 Received: from MOE.intra.ecu.edu ([169.254.3.100]) by Hub2.intra.ecu.edu ([150.216.17.189]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:57:04 -0400 From: "Gable, Gerry" To: "mg-t@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Parts Thread-Index: Ac4/cedkE6C6n3VcRNSt4wck5xJCXg== Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:57:03 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [150.216.17.74] Subject: [Mg-t] Parts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Can anyone help me out with a replacement seat cage for a MG-TC? Thanks Gerry ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 22 11:19:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7825242EB4 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:19:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D54442E5D for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:18:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id w16so6146430vbf.27 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:17:55 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=YinMntrTsVP3kyhOgZujQq8QNy4CbVDL+mK0BIGtO2I=; b=LSEKKrqSi1TMXgDAvW2MgbZ7lXmabq2ZhJ1xIrnYH3487MhdQtKrDN9DD7Wq/gxUdq 6/U7Pb3UJ23/Or4y9y2ZnXOU2x3j12+7pxQ9+H5fLl3dvBbWbduPIT0EzacUaI7/8BbH QYfdgdO0+YliONwWTnbDSg5/WnhTCzXA3j+Nv9DktvYsT7bP7gghfTGcMZtixwpHsj0P po4mzakWEUN8eszP2KL2tMVqLpvrhuVZkKRnA08NhTLUS3XwUTifvTsgi95ItzCmZMYn YXae20WZzLeJLWla8YptY3WLBSoFEWvdMWVFcj/tDI9YSxJ6+dWnAX70QFE7NYFY96Pf KE1A== kv15mr16595202vdb.23.1366651075720; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.18.210 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:17:55 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: wbeech@flash.net, mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] replacement timbers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Friends, a friend from over on the TR3 list has a wood shop where he makes quality ash body timbers (wood). He has made numerous TR3 parts and has offered to make TD parts for me, if needed. I have all I need right now, having already purchased new wood BUT... Bill can make wood parts for you at a reduced (below Moss) price. His e-mail address is included on this post and repeated here: wbeech@flash.net . -rick PS: I have no commercial connection with Bill. He's just a good guy with the same addictions we enjoy. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 22 11:54:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF72342EC4 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:54:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f173.google.com (mail-vc0-f173.google.com [209.85.220.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0903842EB3; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:51:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id gf12so6448584vcb.18 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:50:46 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=4VmHdcGlAILxg+HtbzogEcmCoC9TCI4ulis3tlnIs7A=; b=t/egjUSSKdsPfXeor/WVHX2yi+pa0mZiPN2XZJSb2w+EaGXBgHUUk74zYLsVF9D2tX 0iBzGNUNbghjTrfbKMirLZC3lzwQveTu4MzYeujNIQ2urD3fksO/vUBPC39HmL2rvhUk A+Y1ePA3VUzH0jXwdNdy0Jnvmz+iwjypNvXswzFDueOK8tUsRS/d5C7BULVgtsPT9xQD p+40W/EQ8d6F+bIFYux1/lilsqgClxPsS6upSNpM4j4DJ87zt9lm8qYTsDvHeTF2peSQ rp37fXFobW2JJlzrVPYiAeMMMEILdaTjk1Lsqx8lfj9xA101xD+Rr8JVqKopmgsnXOW1 g1Vw== bh5mr3939396vcb.22.1366653046253; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:50:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.18.210 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 10:50:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:50:46 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante , schooler Subject: [Mg-t] Been stripping (paint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, I spent some time this morning stripping paint and assessing rust damage. And of course, I took a few pictures. To start, here's the passenger rear quarter with the running board off and the rear wing partially removed (read: loose). http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1192.JPG In that picture I have done nothing other than strip the paint and wipe the metal clean. No sanding, no grinding. That will come later. Here's a look at the worst damage on the entire car. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1193.JPG The metal is rusted away and 'some' of the wood is decayed. However, this timber is about 2" thick so the 1/8" of wood that's surface-eroded, is not (in my opinion) a real issue. When poked with a screwdriver, the wood is sound everywhere. I'll vacuum this whole area out, seal the timber with a wood preservative then replace the metal. Here's another look at the door opening. I would have removed the rear wing BUT, the damned previously-captive nut has broken out of its cage. Its also NOT available to be held, being deep down between welded panels. :-( Gurrrr. I hate rusted bolts. And in this case, I'm going to have to cut this rusted bugger off! http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1194.JPG Here's another look. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1195.JPG The running board came off pretty easily, for rusted bolts. It is beautifully undamaged and will be easily refinished. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1196.JPG Before realizing that the front once-captive nut broke free from its 'captivity', I removed the tail light and left the wing hanging on one top bolt (and the stuck one). http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1197.JPG After getting cleaned up, I clipped the toothpick-wood-repairs off but haven't yet sanded the surface. I'll wait until I've repaired the remaining tack holes, the screw holes and any gouged wood, before refinishing that inner surface with wood sealer. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1199.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1200.JPG And finally, I can't believe I've gone this long - over 45 years - restoring cars without owning a set of these wheel dollys!!! They're genius! http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1198.JPG Best regards from a dirty garage in Houston, -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 22 18:04:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E24429D3 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:04:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7305642277 for ; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:04:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id T2JU1l00H1GhbT853C3FJ2; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:03:15 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([98.229.243.26]) by omta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id TC3F1l0050atUmS3TC3F0K; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 00:03:15 +0000 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:03:17 -0400 From: Bud Krueger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: Richard Lindsay , mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante , schooler References: s=q20121106; t=1366675395; bh=QPLr1/fnX5sOzkGLudRPkqB0BSKxAQfihltmzDHruwM=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=Zkw2vMlvQa/YQ8o6hBsi0GnGSpK9JDwOS47XA4vIP3ljw3Q8QGLvsnDk+Ovmjrwf1 JvdA5OG6zdkStqWpcFx3T697FoNlUZfcTx+HSbVbNUexGF3dIwtvPfkeLCLXu4GJ3B JbfW2uCPuBZiSbYtp/KdaBlUhqWchYad9YVKL1uWFDsD3AIp76oS7UEItFQ6GRySft 1427jcsEA2+vS5w5hzcvBJSxJm0s2Mf+PkMRhJeUIK1v2U8P9pHXchX+7Ycrjd6hRw HlGogTKj1efF9W9zSE8ekoosdNuFPO8Dauql7dG5nl3kH/zp5m9Cs/8LoAB8wuhZIW YoAT+saDb/6Rw== Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Been stripping (paint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Rick, Maybe you need to slow up a bit. For instance, the section of the hinge pillar that is mortised into the bottom main side isn't much more than a quarter inch thick. The wooden components of the TD's frame have a symbiotic relationship that is important to the tub's rigidity and support. These 1/8 inches can be the difference in doors latching or popping open. Do you have sort of deadline that you're working toward? Bud Richard Lindsay wrote: > The metal is rusted away and 'some' of the wood is decayed. However, > this timber is about 2" thick so the 1/8" of wood that's > surface-eroded, is not (in my opinion) a real issue. When poked with > a screwdriver, the wood is sound everywhere. I'll vacuum this whole > area out, seal the timber with a wood preservative then replace the > metal. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 10:08:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC91E40404 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 10:08:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from nm40-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm40-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A80440359 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 10:08:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm40.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2013 16:07:40 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.175] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2013 16:07:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1031.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2013 16:07:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 15946 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Apr 2013 16:07:40 -0000 s=s1024; t=1366733260; bh=PzOqwQd8Nv4zPN5jYSjtYi3CGgvFV/X2ZDm/rVe64IU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jt5IogI1ch6kqBRhlVgZ9yInT1C7MEWSxOsaTbUo+SY/asGUZ/8a5bj7spR+gOfU1OnsMyk352EaPW85I+36DmL9segn5vZeo1MEucm9vebGwKDcW2lQmh/igEAuHL/PZ0P526g3MDOg70Eics/r+HMJG3u3zgzJsX2wm7bG2MM= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KZADQDG4VXoRWwLrSId8iyXMNtRo/iHa6WBmRUBKRblan1fqwVeIjAUZKtk5Khxe9AJ3VRRvvZhNHdaA3zVF4cv3kUgbun6Ajw//EparxJL0onpyWykPCPR60V2uBXCJobQMe991fxqaWgiwALjwxJvbUQcKn6WEY5uRXdXwUms=; yfN_Y62VdRqzbLpoj7SJBoa1MVZtao7jXUMYmatSWmbTuJrcOz70s7cycmvt dsslAIVCqqxG8EhNDEJ2NKdcxxdVRp7U_Ea7N57RaaXZmLAKlGhJimbjpC0V GaMzUsfyP1WTi2XW8ENXgfEcED6rrG5mLmN7W_KOmuqmc7D8sS7wssdLDzSN wvoL.Cv_l8FixvRi7cC87l_OAbuuQHAtxLHAc1Z73tiAxriMI0cXFax1rXIE sOPBEHBUcb4dIg5fVjOatuYHrF6EJH1PVzOZCMUh3oejfdqIMJ3wkweNHU6x m2fp8R9Hm_WR6iBob_cHwpEPtf37e5mMAB3d4_XiW_i0gMJ1O6F98lZAsSVV rVHEr.NRlpvfYa0WWj3i2Lz71mIitrXpfmUdb3LGTLlt6Ff0iqkL1AU9fjoi r8Rjlv11509G9RAEAnwai7INrhSdylH1RxCPUnoB7V6zk_vXJ0qxBFAusbSZ TG71mWgUS6ccv6qARQxy426IBCm7PR5JbJnHhZT7UeHDegdlUS9uEwUXUY3S J9tVrqkRAolS_6mzv8r7jVjw2xZ39CNg9e_3PLmUMy0Xxtl0OrEosldo2UtH hz_xYthOqAN4g4qpQBEewmp1fZuly1yX3BVsWGbXi.EaAYTMH1b70fSQ- Received: from [50.53.154.28] by web121901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 09:07:40 PDT VHVlLCBBcHIgMjMsIDIwMTMgYXQgOTowMSBBTQo5OjAxwqBBTQpNZXNzYWdlIHN0YXJyZWQKZnJvbcKgU2NvdHQgRmlzaGVywqB0b8KgMcKgcmVjaXBpZW50CkknbSBiYWNrIGluIHRoZSBmb2xkLi4uCkhpZGUgRGV0YWlscwpGcm9tCgkqIFNjb3R0IEZpc2hlcgpUbwoJKiBtZy10QGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0wqAKQWZ0ZXIgcm91Z2hseSAxNSB5ZWFycyBvd25pbmcgSXRhbGlhbiwgR2VybWFuLCBhbmQgSmFwYW5lc2UgY2FycywgSSdtIG9uY2UgYWdhaW4gYSBkZXZvdGVlIG9mIHRoZSBncmVhdCBnb2QgTW93b2cBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 09:07:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Fisher To: "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: [Mg-t] Well, I'm back in the fold... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:01 AM 9:01 AM Message starred from Scott Fisher to 1 recipient I'm back in the fold... Hide Details From * Scott Fisher To * mg-t@autox.team.net After roughly 15 years owning Italian, German, and Japanese cars, I'm once again a devotee of the great god Mowog. (If we don't know each other, we will; just look through the archives for sfisher.) This time, I come bearing -- or borne by -- a 1951 M.G. TD. It's incredibly original -- paint and interior just as it left the Pavlova Leather Works 62 years ago. It's close to the color I'd call Almond Green on a Mini, but with just a hint of sparkle to it, and a few minor touched-up scratches here and there but no bodywork damage, apparently ever. The interior is tan; the leather seating surfaces are cracked and the cracks are dark with years of dust and grime, but no rips or tears. I've given it one good dousing with leather lotion but it needs saddle soap and a soft brush first, I think. Carpets are decent, with some wear in the passenger's heel, but I won't start with the Moss carpet set just yet; we'll see what Woolite can do first. The top and side curtains were replaced some time ago; I haven't looked at either yet, it being that rarest of things, a sunny spring day in Portland, Oregon. The car was brought to my attention by a longtime friend, Jeff Zurschmeide, who currently owns his father's '59 MGA (the very car illustrated in Fred Puhn's "How To Make Your Car Handle," with a caption to the effect that the driver of this MGA -- Jeff's dad, at a San Diego area autocross in the Sixties -- would enjoy his car more if it had an anti-sway bar. It still doesn't, and the owner says it never will.) Jeff found it on the Portland Craigslist and sent me the link. I wrote to the seller, saw it that afternoon, and agreed on a price. Yesterday I went back with a cashier's check and we chatted, as Britcar folks tend to do, and after a while I took the key and started her up. Caught immediately; I selected first, let out the clutch (it's quick to catch!) and motored off. I immediately noticed it was only running on three cylinders, but kept driving in hope that it was a fouling plug that would clear up. About a mile and a half down the road the car lost virtually all power so I coasted to the side of the road. My wife had followed me in The Simulator (a reference to my first drive in one of those cars -- surely you'd recognize it, it looks like a Lotus Elan scaled up to 150%, they made a million of 'em) so she put on the emergency flashers. I got out and was greeted by a smiling local -- this being out in the country -- who happily announced he had once owned a Gazelle. Took me a while to remember, they were the Mercedes replica on Ford running gear. We popped the ignition side of the bonnet and the problem was immediately obvious: the #1 plug had broken the ceramic clear through, and the wire (with the insulator still in it!) was hanging just aft of the generator. I went to the trunk of the Miata and took out my tool kit. (The Miata is old enough that it's needed a couple of roadside repairs of its own, including one time when the #1 plug actually backed out of the head, but that's another story.) Julie, my wife (and if you were expecting a different name, write me separately), found a couple of spare, used plugs in the box that came with the TD, so in a moment or two I had the old half-a-plug out and the whole one in its place. It ran, about like you'd expect a car to run with the plug that was probably taken out because it was running badly, but it ran. And oh, what joy! My previous experiences with the Sacred Octagon were all post-1965 cars, three and a half MGBs and a chrome-bumper Midget, The Car That Started It All. Everything about those cars made sense as I wound around the bends in the country roads between Scholls and my home in Tualatin. The Armstrong lever shocks (...wait: T Series cars switched TO Armstrong from something else, and I haven't looked yet) gave it a wonderful ride with the independent front suspension (perhaps in part because the Simulator is also my track day and autocross toy... it's a bit stiff at the moment). The steering is amazing, it really does take only about 6" of travel on the wheel to negotiate a 90-degree corner. And the sounds! The smells! It's like coming home. More later to avoid the 5K limit (yep, it's Fisher all right, his first post is too big...) --Scott Fisher Tualatin, Oregon ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 23 16:15:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52C8840452 for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:15:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD374042C for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:04:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ED30A077C for ; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:05:22 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:05:22 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17 To: "mg-t@autox.team.net" References: <1366733260.97532.YahooMailNeo@web121901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Well, I'm back in the fold... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Welcome back. By the way I think the yahoo, sbcglobal and btinternet snafu is under control. mjb. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 24 15:40:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998E640EBB for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:40:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f44.google.com (mail-vb0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E304068D; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 15:40:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id e12so2174371vbg.3 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:39:05 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=kxOGIIwSqBXa5KRboUifJP8ZkG23SDqlitBDMZb2v1g=; b=GU6obHDu72eVlxb12YP4D/in0E0PCv5gvVrtv2nW3E48bztFBNdVsUlX2wWOzZuAms xz8Xs+HlXAirJ0+8uQRUVw+I2lQxXcatG4HaD2Dn/6SeIv19FPm+cjJfQEGNyeHj5Sz2 eqhGOk5Z8qQVm8xevPF2lGnd8ACQFewcyC07hReSiLjhlSmXzUuTvdcWfbaBr+/PmKaT jrHiEHgJJHfGhX14dOlVm2hEks+YF/Ze+YKNkbBywvysYrwj6AAlpATjE5JHo/sljfrr MUg5/ZjVUFr3fD82gTLSse5akhCGV37hLG7o7YaxOYmdXwhSoOc1oMiQfEgbkJpILyMl XnNQ== nn7mr7276816vec.16.1366839545472; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.18.210 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:39:05 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Here's what I found... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net ...under all that rust and ugly turquoise paint: METAL http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1210e.jpg The dark areas are where the Restomotive's MetalReady has attacked rust, yet to be removed, neutralized, and coated with rust sealing primer. Here are a couple other pictures showing the leaded ends of the facia metal. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1217.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1216.JPG I sent an update earlier but I had too many addressees so it bounced, awaiting admin approval. Hopefully it will get posted soon. -rick PS: Just a look into the garage (before cleanup): http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1222.JPG ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 24 16:00:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91CCD40EDC for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:00:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f171.google.com (mail-vc0-f171.google.com [209.85.220.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C84740569 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:00:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id ha11so2315028vcb.30 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:58:59 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=A97hPAMvLbC/Y+IMBzFdKLzuVdg6ybShLrCfUXrOpWY=; b=Vts2djH1PWq9EgcBGuKhEP9immP8C2bkI+QMCxPxX/CwLNCRnhhVP7hJTHOrNFg97V CgHjghVk42stHlGBqnuGlQI6NzCrk3XPrhi9lvuUdO0CsHr2wzXgI/kPVZHy0/pCZAtv SjQSsryqB0m0AayYucyj/4ZpBQp4FkCEHwbqtq+RcdUaF0KqrmjTrCMrTjr4cN3nJW2B DF/2XBo95K0jpeHQYfXApfZzbMvs9BWuc9sAKVgyABXLwP/b7AiZMNpbllcjAHus0PKu zSCYb54TOcrcSyANAkO3E5ZYtXpBndBwxjBADfiLd4tHS9Uf0sGSxMLEoa5fztxJkeCr vpZg== z1mr26088218vec.40.1366840739223; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.18.210 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 16:58:59 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] As it sits today... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, I'm writing to share a few documentation pictures of my '53 M.G.TD. Please know that I photograph everything for MY use, not to tell you what to do. That's not a disclaimer, just a statement. I write because I like sharing the experience. Here's how the project looks today. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1201.JPG I pulled a few more carpet tacks from the timbers, removed the spare tire carrier and tank straps and removed the remaining tail light. I then stopped, cleaned up and took some pictures to aid in rerouting the new electrical harness. Here's a look at the harness area where it exits the left-hand side frame rail. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1202.JPG The five wires there terminate in a knot of splices. From there a sub-harness exits to the right where the first breakout is left-hand brake/turn/parking light wires. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1205.JPG In about the center-line of the car there is another breakout for the fuel sensor and license plate lamp. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1204.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1203.JPG You can see that the fuel outlet has been weeping. My 5 gallon gas can is over in the storage unit so I have not yet gotten around to draining the tank. It has about a gallon of old, terribly nasty smelling fuel onboard. Further on to the right the remaining wires from the harness dive over the frame and under the corner of the wing, supplying power to the right hand lighting. I didn't get a picture of that but it is a mirror image of the left hand side. The harness is secured at the rear wing mounting bolt. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1207.JPG You can see that some ugly splicing has been done. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1208.JPG Here's another look at the harness on its way up to the left hand lighting (opening). http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1207.JPG The insides of the wings are remarkably rust free. When I refinish the undersides, I'll paint them with POR15 before spraying on primer and body color (Autumn Red). That's it for now. Happy Wednesday. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 24 21:18:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 502EF427C6 for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:18:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m04.mx.aol.com (omr-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CF104056A for ; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 21:18:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by omr-m04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8F8967000D849; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:15:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mjb003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mjb003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.103.73]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 491DAE000081; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:15:52 -0400 (EDT) References: To: richardolindsay@gmail.com, mg-t@autox.team.net From: Sonny Surles Received: from 67.238.166.131 by webmail-m131.sysops.aol.com (149.174.9.18) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:15:52 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 23:15:52 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1366859752; bh=teFE4zD0JllODB/+QGQiZGDjph0z/GkZbpK7SX481h0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=swd8rZdc6Oijv+0m6HbwBqLrw5i7CNMU+qzdi2GjhdvqojLhVe/4yUJ7h+ZIOufRV aGb1/gZsbMV9VW6sEOxITB/QqSjjushegCWvXxWoInJPNkBCDDs1U+qmRdu9mwWKxN OtlQXsUeOMy8VFqCgd6pA6Jnmmcsaui10ZyFzREw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c51789fe8286d Subject: Re: [Mg-t] As it sits today... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Rick, I do look forward to your posts. It is a great encouragement! Thanks, Sonny -----Original Message----- From: Richard Lindsay To: mg-t Sent: Wed, Apr 24, 2013 5:59 pm Subject: [Mg-t] As it sits today... Hello Friends, I'm writing to share a few documentation pictures of my '53 M.G.TD. Please know that I photograph everything for MY use, not to tell you what to do. That's not a disclaimer, just a statement. I write because I like sharing the experience. Here's how the project looks today. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1201.JPG I pulled a few more carpet tacks from the timbers, removed the spare tire carrier and tank straps and removed the remaining tail light. I then stopped, cleaned up and took some pictures to aid in rerouting the new electrical harness. Here's a look at the harness area where it exits the left-hand side frame rail. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1202.JPG The five wires there terminate in a knot of splices. From there a sub-harness exits to the right where the first breakout is left-hand brake/turn/parking light wires. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1205.JPG In about the center-line of the car there is another breakout for the fuel sensor and license plate lamp. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1204.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1203.JPG You can see that the fuel outlet has been weeping. My 5 gallon gas can is over in the storage unit so I have not yet gotten around to draining the tank. It has about a gallon of old, terribly nasty smelling fuel onboard. Further on to the right the remaining wires from the harness dive over the frame and under the corner of the wing, supplying power to the right hand lighting. I didn't get a picture of that but it is a mirror image of the left hand side. The harness is secured at the rear wing mounting bolt. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1207.JPG You can see that some ugly splicing has been done. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1208.JPG Here's another look at the harness on its way up to the left hand lighting (opening). http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1207.JPG The insides of the wings are remarkably rust free. When I refinish the undersides, I'll paint them with POR15 before spraying on primer and body color (Autumn Red). That's it for now. Happy Wednesday. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/nsurles@aol.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 25 15:11:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6E7425C5 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 15:11:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from nm16.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm16.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.217]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2B140E46 for ; Thu, 25 Apr 2013 15:11:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.194] by nm16.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Apr 2013 21:09:44 -0000 Received: from [98.139.244.52] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Apr 2013 21:09:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp114.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Apr 2013 21:09:43 -0000 C89QfiEa4Dd.uNzogIF45ImvpDXYJNIy415sLH0Pr0iCN6Y6F0J4f4PA.K24 BGt.RQU4Q4Di8WMww8gzPnv.QUQWxiuyOkLGLMJ6nEQLX62N_ZasHwdrVyDs yIoWEMCj4mY.25vri9l7sWccZe7oU3PTncMWWlkRB31r3Xo22pD0wSYJda8x IDzcv9Nt7UwT0eH2F1nWKzmeOdWYT14St0BBX7giT_QS__.e_6X5XTFmKxZI Smqg35rrnnweWdMl0w7OFZjtFcP40kYDpYWWfxgqxgcoveixD.fOpzQrgvoE gsdqB7NVyck6KSqqkxInIu4Wjf1hVLeqKqaCiQmzVTVxB2E44xSHIdc2chCy peXg8rPNf5ol65xUNG71fhF4WgygrXyD4lmnlMCCZ1V9SyIMOh8OgNvZOLFx fjeucZt8fIdg- smtp114.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 2013 14:09:43 -0700 PDT From: Duvall Video Productions Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 16:09:42 -0500 References: To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Mg-t Digest, Vol 7, Issue 44 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Rick - Adhesion of he brand finish paint you use is an issue so POR15 isn't the best under color. If your not careful, you will get pin holes with POR15. Here is the manufacture's description of POR15 POR-15. is a high-tech, high performance rust-preventive coating designed for application directly on rusted or seasoned metal surfaces. It dries to an incredible rock-hard, non-porous finish that won't chip, crack, or peel, and it prevents rust from recurring by protecting metal from further exposure to moisture. Use it to coat rusty frames, floor pans, farm equipment, marine equipment, or even a heavily corroded battery tray. On Apr 25, 2013, at 1:00 PM, mg-t-request@autox.team.net wrote: > > The insides of the wings are remarkably rust free. When I refinish > the undersides, I'll paint them with POR15 before spraying on primer > and body color (Autumn Red). ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 28 15:15:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542D0403EF for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 15:15:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f177.google.com (mail-vc0-f177.google.com [209.85.220.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E87403E6; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 15:13:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id gf12so2838152vcb.36 for ; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:12:24 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=lItnmTzxaz3BTJjjO85fLSprn4penwauskIPPzc0L2A=; b=0sOe7l8bQj6ImH2+dnM4xz7+boc7NuDl93KPxEBr5X1FPYY6oOe5PSQ5IM+7faozmO xb1f4vIi7/fXeUpSz3EuQfIEL5oQiNqgkKgq2YspaaIYGSBn2UjAXhlwWjHMy8wm/MFQ EUbtADkTPlFowN2qQZ5+ThXgXn89BPDiaj5m8RmF1yk3zumYYZN9nkCe15yhnhQzyfy1 GJvbBZjtKbmyx6HW8CcoMtOy6ZkqonRQswGXSrKxkp5qqvb/R50bnKplLOefjfeNlJIZ dvLPY11lh2s2f/676vpjSNYNAtXrpsJNWKUKTQHikJuYqeQ5TbV/yYfRi7z/EPzKObYt xvoQ== bq7mr31560980ved.51.1367183544817; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.18.210 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Apr 2013 14:12:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Apr 2013 16:12:24 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] A little progress, lots left to do Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, Today I spent most of my ergs repairing the garage wall at my son's house where his wife proved once again that the car and the wall cannot occupy the same physical space. Once back home, and rather pooped, I worked on the TD a little. Specifically, I stripped more paint from the tub and sanded away a little rust. The wooden timbers are generally very healthy on this car, with the exception of the one timber below the driver's door. The aft end of it is rotted away. Over on the passenger side, the tub metal is rusted through at the running board and a bit below. I have the replacement timbers but haven't yet begun the replacements. So far, I am trying to repair everything possible on the tub, using the installation on the frame to maintain the alignment. Both doors close beautifully and the latches engage fully and I want to keep it that way. Here's a picture of that rotted timber. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1224.JPG Despite the wood debris laying below, the timber along the bottom of the tub is in perfectly sound shape! Therefore, the strength of the tub is still there. Most of the wood elsewhere in the car is sound, such as the plywood behind the seats. Here's how it looks. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1225.JPG All of the screws holding these parts together are rusted into solid chunks. I won't disturb the two outer bits, other than sanding, but I will drill out the screws holding the center panel over the differential so it will be removable for fluid-servicing the diff. While looking around in the cockpit, here are a couple of pictures inside the tub. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1226.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1227.JPG This metal in these hidden places will be lightly sanded and coated with POR15, then just primered and painted. Moving on around the tub, here's the A-pillar. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1228.JPG Despite looking rather ugly, this area is really sound. I'll tighten the wood screws and clean this area up with a wire wheel in the drill. I'll reinforce any holes with the toothpicks and wood glue before reinstalling the door latches. Here's a look at the pedals. The rubber draft excluder is perished but I have a new one. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1229.JPG Back on the right rear, here's a slightly out-of-focus look at the tub where the little tack strip ends attach. You can see that the screws have split the wood. I'll put strong wood glue into those cracks then clamp the wood back together. Same toothpick treatment in the screw holes, if needed. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1232.JPG Here's a look at the left rear side, where no work has been done. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1233.JPG Here's a look at the point on the rear of the tub where one of the tank straps and spare tire carrier attaches. All metal damage is just surface rust. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1234.JPG And while on the rear end, here are two looks at the fuel tank filler. They will need a lot of cleaning and polishing. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1235.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1236.JPG I still haven't gone to my storage area to get the gas can. Into that can, I'll drain the gallon or so of fuel from the tank. I'll then disconnect it and lift it away for repairs and refinishing. BTW, its really hard to find someone to take/recycle old gasoline! Back in the garage today, I didn't feel like attacking rusty bolts so I stripped paint instead. I first removed the paint behind the door on the passenger side, then did the same on the driver's side. Here's how the later looks. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1237.JPG I have sanded the upper half of the panel, mostly to see how easily the rust is removed. The bad news is that its hard to remove. The good news is that it DOES come off leaving a nice surface for paint. One could do the whole tub is one long, painful day. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1239.JPG Most of the paint on the panel ahead of the door has been removed but not yet sanded. Same with the rest of the tub. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1238.JPG The final two pictures for today are, first of all, of the lower left edge of the dash top showing the leaded corner. This side is pretty messy, unlike the passenger side. I'll sand and possibly fill this area to make the surface smooth. I suck at lead work. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1240.JPG On the leaded corner at the rear end of the door opening, the lead needs a little filing to reshape the joint. Otherwise, it too will be fine. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1241.JPG And that's it for today. With best regards, -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 29 11:33:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A201240446 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:33:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.186]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4D44042E for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:21:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm26.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2013 17:20:11 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.254] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2013 17:20:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1046.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2013 17:20:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 68488 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Apr 2013 17:20:11 -0000 s=s1024; t=1367256011; bh=tg19QGpqV/1caweauWFzF1PSltmAUZs8H1K1NUxo6Vw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ee+8ihlugxv1jCZ4QBjQRJS5152ufCUSXK6rrxPYcC7ywhaZK3NwEh/+tvhow6BK8U/eaErfm3qgZW1LTUh7wzwE4en1oogXmMqj+T3sd0ggcEnKNQPYA4AzHPJYxjfha7akL1KYLbz91X9oNK/Hk9AgDrj/p1NfmIS418bIkTQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=mOQTGN6AHfroLB5sAE17nEPzXkMqLRHBQMhYyQrYWJiHbg5tTp7J6+yxsGf6ZQn8/BltPpgCKQCZZ1GeyG5mxDfq7b+QDIoyMb/3wW+lVYG002mfEk4T1oi7uBJZPnw7SI8NajZgR7/c46ccBw4PSA8oe+ODwptXb31EaspR41o=; sMI6HRHbg7DkIROnDMMVX8cx_YfFdfd9DX33wRqPq5M6Vscy4wTql27J2oQV TyZxSewK2Y7ojlQN.lYOKasVmFzX9CFK5UpLQYKfjl56y1Gfa1dY81rVGdZO 08lNG4KYOztIA5ougkZT2dmADdXZSVPfnDkGKGau1PYYvdYTjq0IaS80kVfa FwQX49itk1HjSzQf_2v8rivMkCn8CoO4NtZ6OafYR.WoSB37_SOF9EWWTfd. xq_gZHMXTdl9_aS0ieOZaQRAHz6LpGOAZXHoMDpHuz7Z2uWsWyZ9n.iMBR6b T9VunTsgkSc0lsDw30DVn72HF4a1w1m488T6qJQCaznp4V57dKi.pqtXUr8M s7KTIjDA0ZUr6R15KOp.Uzv4OrSPXCnNaNfBVrWh6ecJ4ZrYx_PAhdpAj.Bl qKEATDAl9H5i_T7duqRnyLrb6OKhoSYxWmD8qq6DH72s9c9dgxFB0lZ3d Received: from [137.254.4.7] by web121906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:20:11 PDT CgpTbyBhZnRlciBudXJzaW5nIG15IG5ldy10by1tZSAnNTEgVEQgaG9tZSBsYXN0IE1vbmRheSAoc3dhcHBpbmcgaW4gYSBzcGFyayBwbHVnIGF0IHRoZSByb2Fkc2lkZSwgdG8gcmVwbGFjZSB0aGUgb25lIG9uIHdoaWNoIHRoZSBjZXJhbWljIGhhZCBzbmFwcGVkIGluIHR3byksIEkgc2V0IGFib3V0IG1ha2luZyBhIGZldyBkaXNjcmVldCBpbnF1aXJpZXMsIGFzIHRoZXkgc2F5LCBpbnRvIHdoYXQgd2FzIHVwIHdpdGggaXQuCgpUaGUgZGFzaHBvdHMgd2VyZSBub3QgcXVpdGUgZHJ5LCBidXQgY2VydGFpbmwBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 10:20:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Fisher To: "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: [Mg-t] The TD Is Revived... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net So after nursing my new-to-me '51 TD home last Monday (swapping in a spark plug at the roadside, to replace the one on which the ceramic had snapped in two), I set about making a few discreet inquiries, as they say, into what was up with it. The dashpots were not quite dry, but certainly very low. Adding a little light oil (actually, ATF, which I understand to be the active ingredient in Marvel Mystery Oil) brought the level up above the brass dampers on the rods. I still suspected much of the trouble to be in the ignition, so I pulled the distributor cap. The cap had no cracking or tracing, but the carbon brush didn't retract very far when I tested its spring, suggesting it was quite worn. The rotor had the usual discoloration indicating it was well-used, but didn't seem abnormally so. The points gap seemed appropriate at 0.012" but my feeler gauges (which have spent many happy hours under the rocker arms of my Midget and MGBs) are a little large to fit into the TD's dizzy. I was a bit more concerned with the advance mechanism. The rotor WOULD turn when twisted, but there seemed to be some slop before the weights and springs engaged. (I've had a distributor wear so much that the pivot holes in the advance weights were oval, making for scattered timing at full advance.) I simply added some more light oil down the central shaft and returned the cap. The car ran significantly better after this, but still had some backfiring on acceleration about 3500 RPM. So when I went to the auto parts store to buy rags, a soft brush, and some other bits for the cleaning, I also ordered four spark plugs of the appropriate size (Champion L 10, available at the warehouse, shipped to my local shop the next day). I also bought a feeler gauge with smaller blades. On installing the new plugs, after gapping them to 0.022" as per the manual, I noticed that the #1 plug -- the one which had broken at the roadside, and which I replaced with an old spare from the box the seller included -- was broken AGAIN, this time in my plug socket. VERY odd. I think this might be due to the condition of the plug wires, which are so old and stiff that they barely bend out of the way to get to the plugs. Could the vibration be transferred into the #1 plug (it being the longest wire) and weakening the porcelain? When I pulled the #4 plug lead, the wire separated from the clip that holds it to the plug. Damn. I shoved it back in as best I could and held it in place with some duct tape -- only because I had the car's first official outing the next morning. I had already ordered the full tune-up gear from Moss, including new plug wires with the correct screw-on ends, new cap, new rotor, new plate in the distributor with points and soldered-in condensor, and just for fun, a new Lucas Sport coil. (Next year: bumblebee plug wires!) The car started as it always has, even with only three plugs: a gentle tug on the starter switch and the car roared to life. But even backing out of the driveway I could tell there was more throttle response. Motoring down the road, the car felt like an M.G. again, brisk acceleration and that wonderful straight-cut gear whine in first! The car pulled strongly past the 5000 mark on the chronometric tach, no backfiring apart from an incredible snap and burble from the well-worn exhaust. (It appears to have a single cherry-bomb glass pack in the straight tube.) More later, including the car's first public outing and a bit of "interior design" work... --Scott Fisher Tualatin, Oregon ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 29 12:35:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5A5740515 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:35:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from nm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.213]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7C740046 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 12:21:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.126] by nm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2013 18:19:29 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.213] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2013 18:19:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2013 18:19:29 -0000 lArI3.ko6jyOWz1nQw1uaBtFnS29UvRVRB2ASpxp9jAHez.dKLOsHupuaNKQ etGn7OICCwNgsKy3kZMfi3GP9SPbe6E2nAZG0a4jNWxpIXvTO_mSNogE4NrA I3SuoUvEso.VNoxyUSsdOEJwzjIZgv0P4nzGfg09K0E9d08aGio6vm7Wi5WP hqcHx9UEfX3Fin2luyLC27ouGY9RUoMB9qZA8_iOjsSPcfYGly6zZFd308mM sZqYbHxfgwuEVyT.cxBekrUSxLTEOLGqtXN41RjqwzIYVhX.UXcLFLSfJPgu wgEVUFGwjC0C4vJyg.Kemk6ABNdKU7UVVoGFO9l15pCXkuEkEYt03nEfIryM in10P2EFF6Ug4wz3PUGVaDdX9Vg88aGqpgp.uw03ZERV3RFk.vDejgXmGMdZ oo6d3cjKToQ-- smtp102.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2013 18:19:29 +0000 UTC From: Duvall Video Productions Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 13:19:26 -0500 References: To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Mg-t Digest, Vol 7, Issue 46 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Rust is a difficult--- even if it looks good you should acid etch with something like Eastwood's Fast Etch, (then filler if needed and after sanding acid etch metal again), then epoxy primer then high build primer..... On Apr 29, 2013, at 1:00 PM, mg-t-request@autox.team.net wrote: > have sanded the upper half of the panel, mostly to see how easily > the rust is removed. The bad news is that its hard to remove. The > good news is that it DOES come off leaving a nice surface for paint. > One could do the whole tub is one long, painful day. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 29 16:08:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D5440554 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:08:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f169.google.com (mail-ve0-f169.google.com [209.85.128.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767A940445; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:04:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f169.google.com with SMTP id pa12so1894651veb.14 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:02:35 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ZiOwfkrm0snk2Ml2xasIR2w6VG/VL0hHvrHtIUoxukQ=; b=FHZ9xJ2LBAICA+bepIGMsnbm4XER6QT7+NJh03Wz0ESExACXw8cjOkLnP0Wk2kBZmh QgEhv/0ThR8AgdXigIAzcPKAIRUWBR6SctOoPfkz/AsOZAY9myakbqsrxBkOepqQPi7x kFByaRpAcQMxEWmHkwb3RQiCWbXCP0aoti/SyYuFTDpCXPwAhUUxyln4uX+hhR5qwP2J FEds99Y+ZZ0K3OgaJT+kCMGPnq1HInkh/Bfjz8f5fSOFdrDBZUI5FPycVBQQb6wTxgkB Q0M1ZlZP8PMTMxbEzkNWHkQA5Kl//BEQ0FbUfl77kwZAmW7cq3lA4SqOG8Q9dics2geg rnvg== ky8mr29137351vdb.128.1367272955649; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.18.210 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:02:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 17:02:35 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Monday's TD progress Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, Today I just disassembled more car, stripped more paint, created more clutter, swept more garage. Instead of weaving a tail, here are a bunch of new pictures with minimal comment. First up was the removal of the headlights. Here's the wiring inside the left pod. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1242.JPG And a look at the front end with the bumper, front valance and headlights removed. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1243.JPG Here's the left front wing, now on the garage floor. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1244.JPG The frame is in great shape and access to the engine is superb. All bolts on the front wing came out easily - exactly the same way the rear ones didn't! http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1245.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1246.JPG The following pictures are included to demonstrate proper alignment of the rubber trim. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1247.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1248.JPG Here are a couple of pictures of the left front suspension, taken just because this was the first time I got a good look at it. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1249.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1250.JPG Here's a look at the left front of the tub bolts. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1251.JPG I stopped for a moment to show you how cluttered the garage is getting. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1252.JPG Here's the car now with most of the paint stripped from the tub and the floor swept. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1254.JPG The next three pictures are just documentation of the tub steel, stripped but not sanded. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1255.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1256.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1257.JPG Here's just another look at the car, as of 29 April 2013. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1260.JPG Lots of coats of paint, primer and who-knows-what on the left rear wing. I stripped a little of the paint just for a look underneath. There's at least three different colors of primer and two colors of paint! The ugly top-coat of turquoise paint is directly over the Woodland Green, without primer. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1262.JPG Here's the front valance, just removed. The radiator in the box if from the Lotus Elan. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1263.JPG Here's a box-o-lights. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1264.JPG And finally, just a look into the car's grill, as it sits today. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1265.JPG I'm tired, but happy. On top of our recent Houston flooding, we're expecting more rain. Or as Shmi said, "Storm's a commin' Annie." -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 29 17:24:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453834056D for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 17:24:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f173.google.com (mail-vc0-f173.google.com [209.85.220.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5B240515 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 17:18:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id ia10so4547999vcb.4 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:17:08 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=fIwoeVAndC9RXiTcS/glCuffccx23bRlWLM1ubZHGr4=; b=corsyEv+QmM+Os2G36qcC8o/0ti70cC+sh3pyV3yD/NZS5dFVuw2cKpPelNjDYKnnN 4zLOD2YLUD3m1CzuiJg485UYSQ3MjvJvW+rmXVnEwQxbGsfUcDnW5hoHRdEkx9qfAu80 14AepxotC5gNFQK8hFceUYLaJnLQpiXZiY4qEjEz0rRwz1thqHbsQuQ2oL6quyf8te0D n043Zq4qFMhMM81Y/atSvBQSc+fGtpUbgxZksJe3ogN6iQsWHkURfaFa8iTmT5dTK7h4 fa1G0C+l1VUEvFg+dT9iIpWHFquoRyvmMg9n28diYPyPMlXIWJ8HleSD0/bmhHkB7Suq ujLA== kv15mr28612322vdb.23.1367277428182; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.18.210 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Apr 2013 16:17:08 -0700 (PDT) References: <1367256011.66508.YahooMailNeo@web121906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2013 18:17:08 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: Scott Fisher , mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] The TD Is Revived... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Scott, its time to check your car's compression. Warm it up then pull all plugs. Remove the distributor cap or just remove the rotor. Open the throttle 100% and block it open. Spin the engine on the starter for about 4-5 revolutions with a compression gauge held into each plug hole in turn, and record the pressures. Gauge available at Harbor Freight quite inexpensively. After making the 'dry' measurements, add about 1 teaspoon of motor oil into each cylinder, through the plug holes, and make the 'wet' measurements, again recording the pressures. THEN, post the results here please. -rick PS: Remember, "Diagnose BEFORE surgery." On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Scott Fisher wrote: > So after nursing my new-to-me '51 TD home last Monday (swapping in a spark > plug at the roadside, to replace the one on which the ceramic had snapped in > two), I set about making a few discreet inquiries, as they say, into what was > up with it. > > The dashpots were not quite dry, but certainly very low. Adding a > little light oil (actually, ATF, which I understand to be the active > ingredient in Marvel Mystery Oil) brought the level up above the brass dampers > on the rods. I still suspected much of the trouble to be in the ignition, so I > pulled the distributor cap. > > The cap had no cracking or tracing, but the > carbon brush didn't retract very far when I tested its spring, suggesting it > was quite worn. The rotor had the usual discoloration indicating it was > well-used, but didn't seem abnormally so. The points gap seemed appropriate at > 0.012" but my feeler gauges (which have spent many happy hours under the > rocker arms of my Midget and MGBs) are a little large to fit into the TD's > dizzy. > > > I was a bit more concerned with the advance mechanism. The rotor > WOULD turn when twisted, but there seemed to be some slop before the weights > and springs engaged. (I've had a distributor wear so much that the pivot holes > in the advance weights were oval, making for scattered timing at full > advance.) I simply added some more light oil down the central shaft and > returned the cap. > > The car ran significantly better after this, but still had > some backfiring on acceleration about 3500 RPM. So when I went to the auto > parts store to buy rags, a soft brush, and some other bits for the cleaning, I > also ordered four spark plugs of the appropriate size (Champion L 10, > available at the warehouse, shipped to my local shop the next day). I also > bought a feeler gauge with smaller blades. > > > On installing the new plugs, > after gapping them to 0.022" as per the manual, I noticed that the #1 plug -- > the one which had broken at the roadside, and which I replaced with an old > spare from the box the seller included -- was broken AGAIN, this time in my > plug socket. VERY odd. I think this might be due to the condition of the plug > wires, which are so old and stiff that they barely bend out of the way to get > to the plugs. Could the vibration be transferred into the #1 plug (it being > the longest wire) and weakening the porcelain? > > > When I pulled the #4 plug > lead, the wire separated from the clip that holds it to the plug. Damn. I > shoved it back in as best I could and held it in place with some duct tape -- > only because I had the car's first official outing the next morning. I had > already ordered the full tune-up gear from Moss, including new plug wires with > the correct screw-on ends, new cap, new rotor, new plate in the distributor > with points and soldered-in condensor, and just for fun, a new Lucas Sport > coil. (Next year: bumblebee plug wires!) > > The car started as it always has, > even with only three plugs: a gentle tug on the starter switch and the car > roared to life. But even backing out of the driveway I could tell there was > more throttle response. Motoring down the road, the car felt like an M.G. > again, brisk acceleration and that wonderful straight-cut gear whine in first! > The car pulled strongly past the 5000 mark on the chronometric tach, no > backfiring apart from an incredible snap and burble from the well-worn > exhaust. (It appears to have a single cherry-bomb glass pack in the straight > tube.) > > More later, including the car's first public outing and a bit of > "interior design" work... > > --Scott Fisher > Tualatin, Oregon > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/richardolindsay@gmail.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 30 13:50:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFD2D40E45 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 13:50:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F1624056D; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 13:44:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id ht10so766615vcb.41 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:42:31 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=yoC8gvP/H+I+0P0JgMARNUwHO+pSByUaVUZaxTUT1pE=; b=Yhz3i6lEPn134xJziAVwipFQoGoWM/xxBTy5DiUxmW7WIrLqBwrfGW5ar6nyF3Ooh9 osGjjOiU7BxT3BAq8nPydMqN1n4LbrwDaQ5jYW+KySxTq6d2+g8f7/hJizuG9gmLaStk CbXBNXQkMddj81QlIk4K2hIupZiFTd0lqXZBNs98kbuHBv7McnP7myxihjMt1QpvxbRb rduA3i4aVb1kZaJeL7IoVhcqSBMDGZKGkDi4gfiomn4LAGmTuaVh5UlKXM5HLwHltVFY KAECV2gNMElb9bpdoIr5LP+ILpkoLRllGP6B/QLcECeORVozvXTU0wGkmFEeAn6pIWCB I9QA== Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:42:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.18.210 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Apr 2013 12:42:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 14:42:30 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Stripping paint, uggg. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, After hauling all the big metal bits to the storage unit, I spent a couple of hours this afternoon stripping paint off of the spare tire carrier. What a P.I.T.A.! Still, its coming up nicely and will look good. I keep telling myself that. Here's a couple of pictures of the carrier in two stages of paint stripping. The first picture was taken about an hour before the second one. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130430_131837.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130430_142757.jpg I guess, with 20/20 hindsight, I should have researched a shop that does sand/media blasting but as I am cheap... -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive