From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 2 13:29:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B053D42901 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 13:29:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 717E740537 for ; Tue, 2 Jul 2013 13:29:29 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1372793367; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=BOUOVI8I+1/MLVsDimYZYr009g6AC9wM53CbiWW4Uy5EEdrDJOynUFfd1VZHHuUu7 +lU/Pc9s/sK552nOoXaEfOzAK4IcMVUrWZfokIB2DJatOdG6i6o/rcNdjTeGeo4R98 NhE3kGPNUGHNK4OYZrR/C47u6Z8vwk5qd2kMSeko= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.102]) by smtpout03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABJ7GLR9ATHLJZS for (sender ); Tue, 2 Jul 2013 12:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [108.88.216.197] by webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 19:28:15 GMT From: "mgbob@juno.com" Full-Name: "mgbob@juno.com" Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2013 19:28:15 GMT To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] TD running board rubber strips Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net In preparation for painting, it's time for me to remove the rubber running board strips. How is this done? They appear to be secured with a rivet head under the running board. Is the rubber peeled out of the aluminium strip to reveal the flared rivet or a machine screw head? How is that done w/o damaging rubber or aluminium? The new Moss bits I bought look to be good repros, but I would prefer to use the originals again, if possible.Bob ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 3 12:23:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1999842F8B for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 12:23:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from nm18.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm18.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D8E42BB6 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 12:19:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.107] by nm18.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jul 2013 18:19:06 -0000 Received: from [67.195.14.95] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jul 2013 18:19:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp110.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jul 2013 18:19:06 -0000 FakJZsse3.yOIG7raurHPPPek2XN5JrfZm_o69VbXE_J.79RFOBdstet07Ml 8sT0JqA7zxkMyyKXiCVc7vQoaTkN8RnDUDgGP7zgbMtde4_O5N1Uk6AjIVRX 1LMuQRQmzZYZM61mmkyhnWqEkZtzbWfQm7v8UqUxUerolLYc53T1Hjft7MiW Qy9v4n2gVewanMBGJrYo6EQy_K8tCMtItgtrIheIfiFMWglMaDE73PjmOmCw SzU0y7wVqWBJfgFXvH3IdsZcutKA_iXeeDjWPW8dfaGTzHIQ5ToEg6VKEFP4 S7dnoFPXOkn9buovN5WQh_VPnBTKq4aRgcaV8UYX4u9St5jKWaZx.Rxxhl_i KK8dipmOROwri2tElgKystHtdMOVHeHPlWSoZ50YfQgBgSjXpJZw9mA8m58b kgPmLR4IjJnsOPVsNxonzRsBJt8l19Nc3zloH1TvT4XHo8XMfXfZDXLxidDM lC2ADEdEN51P1ubyZH3TjwPdOS7t0jVpFKmbq8dXifnI- smtp110.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Jul 2013 11:19:06 -0700 PDT From: Duvall Video Productions Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 13:19:05 -0500 References: To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Mg-t Digest, Vol 7, Issue 96 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Bob, The rubber strips just squeeze in. If yours are old they may not be flexible enough to pull out without damaging them. The aluminum strips used a nut and bolt originally so you may have to drill those out to get them off. On Jul 3, 2013, at 1:00 PM, mg-t-request@autox.team.net wrote: > Subject: [Mg-t] TD running board rubber strips > Message-ID: <20130702.152815.27217.8@webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > In preparation for painting, it's time for me to remove the rubber running > board strips. How is this done? They appear to be secured with a rivet head > under the running board. Is the rubber peeled out of the aluminium strip to > reveal the flared rivet or a machine screw head? How is that done w/o > damaging rubber or aluminium? The new Moss bits I bought look to be good > repros, but I would prefer to use the originals again, if possible.Bob ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 3 13:56:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E617242735 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 13:56:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail2.ecu.edu (mail2.ecu.edu [150.216.17.112]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F99140453 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 13:56:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown (HELO Hub1.intra.ecu.edu) ([150.216.17.188]) by ironport2.ecu.edu with ESMTP; 03 Jul 2013 15:56:20 -0400 Received: from MOE.intra.ecu.edu ([169.254.3.202]) by Hub1.intra.ecu.edu ([150.216.17.188]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 15:56:19 -0400 From: "Gable, Gerry" To: "mg-t@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Gear Shift Lever Thread-Index: Ac54J3SRpXhFllVrTgirP+mruZxjqg== Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2013 19:56:18 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [150.216.17.75] Subject: [Mg-t] Gear Shift Lever Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net I am removing my engine on my TC to clean it up and paint it. I started to take off the gear shifter and it seems to have more springs and washers in it than noted in any diagram I can find. Does anyone have the correct configuration for putting it back together? Further, I have not been successful in removing the two pins that hold it In place. Is there a secret technique to removing them? Thanks Gerry ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 3 14:25:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1568042E88 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 14:25:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from s417.sureserver.com (s417.sureserver.com [216.35.197.131]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3798242C61 for ; Wed, 3 Jul 2013 14:25:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 20440 invoked by uid 504); 3 Jul 2013 20:25:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (lawrie@98.244.5.122) by s417.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 3 Jul 2013 20:25:37 -0000 Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 13:25:46 -0700 From: Lawrie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: mg-t@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Gear Shift Lever Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Gerry, The pins are held in by the metal at their outer ends having been peened over, so file or grind this away till you can clearly see all of the diameter of the pin. Next, take an old punch and grind two sides flat to the width of the groove in the ball of the lever where the pins locate the lever. Then grind the punch to a gradual taper. Push the lever to one side, insert the modified punch in the groove under the head of the pin and hammer downwards. This will drive the pin out. Repeat on the other side. When re-installing the lever, tap the pins back in and seal their ends with a small blob of JB Weld. Lawrie > I am removing my engine on my TC to clean it up and paint it. I started to > take off the gear shifter and it seems to have more springs and washers in it > than noted in any diagram I can find. Does anyone have the correct > configuration for putting it back together? Further, I have not been > successful in removing the two pins that hold it In place. Is there a secret > technique to removing them? > Thanks > Gerry > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/lawrie@britcars.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 4 09:49:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4062442AD1 for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 09:49:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D6D94006C for ; Thu, 4 Jul 2013 09:37:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cypress ([86.8.152.135]) by know-smtprelay-10-imp with bizsmtp id wFdj1l0042vXtG601Fdj2r; Thu, 04 Jul 2013 16:37:43 +0100 a=ml-e3DNAqj0A:10 a=uObrxnre4hsA:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=mIvPSeKpWwQA:10 a=IkUhBnY1A877EFh_MygA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=6TQV7dGyitum4VoPy9sA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=B7jGu9YLcIG0zcb8:21 a=PwYPgAp4zzY326Yfju+9Og==:117 From: "Clive Sherriff" To: Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2013 16:37:40 +0100 Subject: [Mg-t] Combat, Barrie Lyndon, and MG by McComb books available Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net A local bookseller has a copy of Barrie Lyndon's famous book "Combat", the record of MG's 1930/31/ and 32 racing seasons, for sale at #65 - It's in good condition, some foxing to the edge but pages are clear. Good binding, no dustjacket. Any interest contact me offlist He also has a nice copy of MG by McComb, with dustjacket (protected in a plastic cover) at #38. Its the one with the racing MGB on the dustjacket. I've no connection with the seller Clive Oxford, UK = ===================================== ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 8 06:24:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A9934040A for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 06:24:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s25.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s25.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F9440356 for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 06:24:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU0-SMTP31 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s25.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 8 Jul 2013 05:24:51 -0700 Received: from amd ([174.91.28.127]) by BLU0-SMTP31.phx.gbl over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 8 Jul 2013 05:24:51 -0700 From: BOB GRUNAU To: "Lawrie" , Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 08:28:47 -0400 FILETIME=[24E2E370:01CE7BD6] Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Gear Shift Lever Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net note, you only need to remove one pin, the lever will then come out. I tap the pin hole 1/4" , ( BSF, NF, NC all work OK ) , and install a bolt with the inner end tip machined down to pin diameter where it enters the gear lever. Bob, Canada -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Lawrie Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 4:26 PM To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Gear Shift Lever Gerry, The pins are held in by the metal at their outer ends having been peened over, so file or grind this away till you can clearly see all of the diameter of the pin. Next, take an old punch and grind two sides flat to the width of the groove in the ball of the lever where the pins locate the lever. Then grind the punch to a gradual taper. Push the lever to one side, insert the modified punch in the groove under the head of the pin and hammer downwards. This will drive the pin out. Repeat on the other side. When re-installing the lever, tap the pins back in and seal their ends with a small blob of JB Weld. Lawrie > I am removing my engine on my TC to clean it up and paint it. I started to > take off the gear shifter and it seems to have more springs and washers in it > than noted in any diagram I can find. Does anyone have the correct > configuration for putting it back together? Further, I have not been > successful in removing the two pins that hold it In place. Is there a secret > technique to removing them? > Thanks > Gerry > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/lawrie@britcars.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/grunau.garage@sympatico.ca ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 8 06:31:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189154044A for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 06:31:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.ecu.edu (mail1.ecu.edu [150.216.17.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE704006D for ; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 06:27:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown (HELO Hub3.intra.ecu.edu) ([150.216.17.190]) by ironport1.ecu.edu with ESMTP; 08 Jul 2013 08:27:38 -0400 Received: from MOE.intra.ecu.edu ([169.254.3.202]) by Hub3.intra.ecu.edu ([150.216.17.190]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Mon, 8 Jul 2013 08:27:37 -0400 From: "Gable, Gerry" To: BOB GRUNAU , Lawrie , "mg-t@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Mg-t] Gear Shift Lever Thread-Index: Ac54J3SRpXhFllVrTgirP+mruZxjqgAJZIYAAOrMdIAACG+sgA== Date: Mon, 8 Jul 2013 12:27:37 +0000 References: <51D488CA.1060702@britcars.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [150.216.17.75] Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Gear Shift Lever Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Bob, Your suggestion and solution seems to be the best. Have a great day, Gerry -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of BOB GRUNAU Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 8:29 AM To: Lawrie; mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Gear Shift Lever note, you only need to remove one pin, the lever will then come out. I tap the pin hole 1/4" , ( BSF, NF, NC all work OK ) , and install a bolt with the inner end tip machined down to pin diameter where it enters the gear lever. Bob, Canada -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Lawrie Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 4:26 PM To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Gear Shift Lever Gerry, The pins are held in by the metal at their outer ends having been peened over, so file or grind this away till you can clearly see all of the diameter of the pin. Next, take an old punch and grind two sides flat to the width of the groove in the ball of the lever where the pins locate the lever. Then grind the punch to a gradual taper. Push the lever to one side, insert the modified punch in the groove under the head of the pin and hammer downwards. This will drive the pin out. Repeat on the other side. When re-installing the lever, tap the pins back in and seal their ends with a small blob of JB Weld. Lawrie > I am removing my engine on my TC to clean it up and paint it. I > started to > take off the gear shifter and it seems to have more springs and > washers in it > than noted in any diagram I can find. Does anyone have the correct > configuration for putting it back together? Further, I have not been > successful in removing the two pins that hold it In place. Is there a secret > technique to removing them? > Thanks > Gerry > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/lawrie@britcars.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/grunau.garage@sympatico.ca ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 11 12:16:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A460F403DE for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:16:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.234]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C304038C for ; Thu, 11 Jul 2013 12:15:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.176] by nm26.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jul 2013 18:15:05 -0000 Received: from [67.195.14.111] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jul 2013 18:15:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jul 2013 18:15:05 -0000 s=s1024; t=1373566505; bh=mRPtvLAhCrmK0K3t7I+rgHELOENo4vzkci0rN1iZHJE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=a+2bgSiVCEV7ecEkI9s82qOqHfd5YjY3soVXc8o20uJ3UesuPfESW+2SZPRfWGUW/72RhgzqSbajEiAHI5DAAXOMa62yIRaNe/YEg5Tn1X8W8mFOwOYaSZtULDcBNimhJhRyKlH+X46bJtx09N4UolegSv9JLxmjixQHj+EETOY= E_lmTOpNIfRXQcXHTPlpo5TWa93BlpaxCyEGGmjouu26v2N6YHEwPqaTL0sV jSuJG3dQGkKs_JCfOQgO4zoDkmPObYpaY4oA8lou8Hd4sSJlEVAXjk88lnPL oVp57DmF9j9XKpb6rOHwJPjq3Jtohw8hiEeAhOH9jM5HQw7DWyNcF8kvaCvz PfzVKWRU1YgId.7BLhzaYULxEVDNyIidw7d9ARRe4vAkddvXGvB3w3t6Kv70 f52JdGdFANCo9S8WN65CYTNW9ajLYcqcFQzT2FetpZSSLbcLA4y9BIwum3jk tbiafNFF2sSP8J.h8gyhLMrssMYyYRK1xHB57rxCkF.sviMsmNGoXop2bdAF U.iCEXJtMIISp0ng9iZJggnNJ_At1tab.asw5Td8IHkRk79T077n6tubmBHG YdvrORChNIZQrqLWYL3Bhq1uuESXX3v67tJMDaG2nOCe5Gxhv6k3zcWmONKk 5FJUrmMKa.aHdHY3z6xwYXdl9WvgVJQ-- plain) by smtp108.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jul 2013 11:15:05 -0700 PDT From: Gene Gillam Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 13:15:03 -0500 References: To: Richard Lindsay Cc: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Updates? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Just realized I hadn't heard anything from you in a while on the TDgive up or taking a well-deserved break? Gene Gillam ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 12 12:49:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AF2F403B9 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 12:49:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f50.google.com (mail-vb0-f50.google.com [209.85.212.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E8B2403A7; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 12:49:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id w16so1797600vbb.23 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:49:18 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4egtqNlku0nFynVhP42u/h+Csm1x8tHQmvCqgTr2FsA=; b=LYU+t+EmV14NSZ4dmO5uGisZ/CH3hH4WEk+h7rVuCOE/9VL6iTv5bYaezZFIuZLDjL CD0LqLp8U2MEI8GL2NnRv7JI1Xfljdy7zh/CV8+06dh9GvOiFntKcWUCZbz+r18RX7AF 9a+8APfOv1l13+7bboeRXLmgE3XtmVNnnKGsfPp/GDsTHhULrqZmB9ooL0PHr8OTYto7 H2Sd62ybycM/A3+prYFUY4sGEwXZ46JlZQpZFbPQmOH3VUyo2RM7sggQG8BTUOayEpp/ 5u7wXwsbGtSWxq1+ZQmMACR+WqEAPYlt+SBYn4RWzn4nK5Hvo2O3c58wSSigMCgDPSYD ujnA== p16mr25217064vce.88.1373654958295; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.66 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 13:49:18 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net, "mgs@autox.team.net List" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] MGs in Porto Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, In an earlier note, I made reference to the number of fantastic MGs in Porto, Portugal, as well as mention of a restoration shop with zillions of parts. The place was just astounding! Here are some photos to back up those claims. First up are just some pictures of T-Series cars (etc.) in various states of restoration / preservation starting with a beautiful competition car at '2013 Boavista'... http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0053.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0054.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0055.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0056.JPG ...and another... http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0101.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0102.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0103.JPG Now, some in-progress pictures from that shop I referenced... http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0377.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0378.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0379.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0380.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0381.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0382.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0383.JPG ...and some of the cars in the showroom - some customer cars and some for sale. http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0397.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0398.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0399.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0400.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0401.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0402.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0403.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0404.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0407.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0408.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0409.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0410.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0411.JPG Here are some pictures of the shop, including the zillions of parts. I drooled. http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0386.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0387.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0388.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0389.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0390.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0391.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0392.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0393.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0394.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0395.JPG And finally, a period poster from their shop proclaiming, "The new MG Midget - A man's car." This art appeals to my despise of political correctness. :-P http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/mg_poster.jpg -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 12 19:02:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C644C403D8 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 19:02:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f179.google.com (mail-ob0-f179.google.com [209.85.214.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9F240079 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 18:59:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f179.google.com with SMTP id xk17so12029604obc.10 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 17:59:34 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=UMHAPtt7ILazalXLZu7kXcUPVRbMITPJkvRbfeXCHbg=; b=IXJeZwlDSgwxKO16uB523DxSfVPBgywkltJtY/S1nzH+jMsH35UNMXLZdysGrsmorc jmv2JXdJNKU+j7/cgNVn9VfIBbOy0crWRv/1Tus3mjsxpo4a1eX2nJPcTY69cifltMNZ Z79xrLmS3vPTlOPaVJJxXTUhdciI+WVQzA45ozjtXIPkJ4plG2hEOMmFi9+CplQ68W1M 1wpDYHT45tzTPf8EZhgLyTWgJPTRTz+zcaa6I1HorgYdgKeL2MYbH1ZKhtMKPFRnHNBq 9fXH3j5OHdvYxGNcKkqEtVFs9sK7wzyevCP7BOVh8QEFRQioe+rr92zbTa7oPqR//GdB JChA== o9mr37956222obr.54.1373677174433; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 17:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id mq1sm57416247obb.14.2013.07.12.17.59.32 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 12 Jul 2013 17:59:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 19:59:30 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: mgbob@juno.com, mg-t@autox.team.net, rui.gigante@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Mg-t] [Mgs] MGs in Porto Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Bob wrote: B > Question--did you find yourself never wanting to leave, or > impatient to get home to the TD? A bit of both. B What I really wanted to do was bring cars home! B Rui is really busy at work, with family and with his hobby - Ferrari restoration. B Still, I'm sure he'll give us the reference for the Porto MG shop. B However, we may be able to get Rui to go select various parts from their boxes, as long as we don't get excessive with our requests. -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. -------- Original message -------- From: mgbob@juno.com Date: 07/12/2013 6:02 PM (GMT-06:00) To: richardolindsay@gmail.com Cc: mg-t@autox.team.net,mgs@autox.team.net,rui.gigante@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGs in Porto Rick, B B Thanks so much for the pics. B B B Question--did you find yourself never wanting to leave, or impatient to get home to the TD? Bob ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Richard Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net, "mgs@autox.team.net List" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mgs] MGs in Porto Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 13:49:18 -0500 Hello Friends, In an earlier note, I made reference to the number of fantastic MGs in Porto, Portugal, as well as mention of a restoration shop with zillions of parts.B The place was just astounding!B Here are some photos to back up those claims. First up are just some pictures of T-Series cars (etc.) in various states of restoration / preservation starting with a beautiful competition car at '2013 Boavista'... http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0053.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0054.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0055.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0056.JPG ...and another... http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0101.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0102.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0103.JPG Now, some in-progress pictures from that shop I referenced... http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0377.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0378.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0379.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0380.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0381.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0382.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0383.JPG ...and some of the cars in the showroom - some customer cars and some for sale. http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0397.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0398.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0399.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0400.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0401.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0402.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0403.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0404.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0407.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0408.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0409.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0410.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0411.JPG Here are some pictures of the shop, including the zillions of parts.B I drooled. http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0386.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0387.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0388.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0389.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0390.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0391.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0392.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0393.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0394.JPG http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/DSCN0395.JPG And finally, a period poster from their shop proclaiming, "The new MG Midget - A man's car."B This art appeals to my despise of political correctness. :-P http://www.aubard.us/Porto_MG/mg_poster.jpg -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbob@juno.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 13 00:16:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 270E340410 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 00:16:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f180.google.com (mail-we0-f180.google.com [74.125.82.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C2EC40329 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 00:16:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f180.google.com with SMTP id w56so8665606wes.39 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 23:16:44 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zsClFDz3BfW5wO/kcCNwWgqV7M7EmsICViBtU6o2Zvk=; b=0CDCyrSmch8bG+XwkaXSRMQ0CeEYtHhTnVwM4Qv8GVaWwBdOTSaFP2Af7eQku2FhOa FiO02lIw57ZqoU9I9mfnIkZpduQpm3wkvBVC8A+gFeHVa8nqaZHn3YAcMeo1QqO4FK88 Xb0lkAHfErTrDgsgYtgpgiZoeyG72K8lvNJKoZKLnE1BQwytIAenBrBWBXvyqt+XEtAD ja46P2kpCrE7nJfKwZs8buHXonE0QAkjIz6MAp5euDkzE7iN1bpouWaUYCxfZ09FCaDJ z+Rvhg/R9F0uSaDP2Din0G5C+GWNgpTyBf+V6PcQSSpfVJ2mVBAqMyfNfso6eGetN9Py xgyg== jc18mr3481886wic.61.1373696204458; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 23:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.14.199 with HTTP; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 23:16:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 02:16:44 -0400 From: JohnD To: MG T List Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MGs in Porto Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net I think I would take a vacation to Portugal, wherever that is, just to wander around that shop. What a treat! Thanks for the pix. John Deikis -- *Driving in the past lane!* JohnsfollyVintageRacing ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 13 06:07:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A54403E9 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 06:07:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f171.google.com (mail-ob0-f171.google.com [209.85.214.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13D9403C5 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 06:06:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f171.google.com with SMTP id dn14so12496808obc.30 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 05:06:41 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=I1hE+osKhj9mjGLsY2MUnvnogje66/Z4TA+/Ex2PFXg=; b=hqBy3SxL7msrmUgCecLCXHcjKEmPDD8eWIcOE90LFOvqyLALC8MkqpID17cbBfF+FC Vn8xT9BspRwqRQr2as3l2CjGZRKpmgfFsy9aRqc6g/OsN0mGicusrdLRZlwYZUvctrWc 4bkUUP3Lch19M4PSMSFFA7PcbYW8MKESLkVNV52TxT+r2m3G+OGJNrHQ0RzKh/hfA2JX ft++FzJ5i8r8s2dx65o7JCQLCWcp3+CZxRJ6OCS8qSEkpF4f5KCUoOSuhjTxH+6E68zE esB5WoOZvqEBbEOnckTeCrkz/fr/iuCNojnRMa16lDIAvjafvlRHqdWOfikk8rNBSeU6 EomQ== b10mr38930906oeo.16.1373717201136; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 05:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o4sm59320622obl.7.2013.07.13.05.06.39 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 13 Jul 2013 05:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 07:06:38 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Back to the garage... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, I'm off to the garage. B (Retirement is awesome.) B Yesterday I cleaned up most of the mess, except the work benches. B I'd left them a nasty mess, cluttered with rusty thermostat bits, before the trip. B Today I address those buggers. B As we all know, a disassembled car takes up three times the space of an assembled one. B I have to fit all that stuff into a two-car space so keeping things clean and organized is the key to not loosing things or worse, getting hurt. B The goal is to have the garage ready by tomorrow so I can start back working on the TD. I have also learned that I have to clean my air compressor. B Here in Houston's high humidity, condensation in the tank is a bad problem. B Its so bad now that the compressor is spitting a little water! B I'll drain the compressor and tank, and clean it up as part of the garage clean up. B I cerainly can't paint with it as-is, even with moisture filters on the spray guns...and I want to start painting! Happy Saturday, -rick, who's brain is not yet back on Central time. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 13 13:57:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C0D40434 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 13:57:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f170.google.com (mail-ve0-f170.google.com [209.85.128.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15983403CF; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 13:53:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f170.google.com with SMTP id 14so9104715vea.15 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 12:53:31 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zZJDovB+JbioRAR8hnSeCqQ8lKOm/KIs8DV8y+wNuhE=; b=SOqR5ZGd9WdKNwU5cAe2ex03W5h+IfzV8w13sgyrqqljWD7T5HWp1SKm0J88a3itUo HJvfQFQJKCPioIx3xtzC2uaESKe05gQ8q4CYl9ANJB64Q9MLsFF5lpVNdFLtn5WNWt3n GH5R1G85smz4x8TAuiHfJtbkyuIx5T6A8qLMf34hxJha1qkUwDGPiPyXMbv+N+0mnmWM q+qh/ctG1b93SHwZIXSlAwB31a0Fl0XJJ8eJQ8Sx/ZNMRYfWVCu2Xn/uJ7wyc3oSwAfa njBNEK9MUBJt7N/Mh1EU/mPRBz/vk4eIHF5wYty/WzmekcPVYM0PiyIT9HsI5AaPvz4i Ldzw== d17mr22459244vdj.74.1373745211029; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 12:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.66 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 12:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 14:53:30 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Back wrenching on the TD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, As intended, I spent a little time in the garage today. Its uber-hot here in south Texas so one can only work in short stints in an un-air conditioned garage. Fortunately, I have a huge fan that I keep on me (except when painting) and work (almost) with a water bottle in one hand. So today's update is small. I started by loading the rear wheels into the SUV along with the left front wheel. (The rest later...) I'm taking them to my neighborhood shop to be broken down so I can take the wheels to be media blasted. They're lots easier to store w/o the tires mounted. That's all of little interest right now so I have no pictures. What I do have a couple of pictures of is the left front suspension. Here's how it looks as it sets today. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1324.JPG Here's close-up of the left tie-rod end. Its a safe bet that these guys haven't been replaced in a l_o_n_g time. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1323.JPG Fortunately, I have a full front suspension and steering rebuild kit. (Thanks Bill!) With no overall direction in mind (see note), I next chose to clean up the wood that forms the top of the side-curtain box. I took these pictures just to remind me how the factory wrapped the upholstery onto the wood. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1325.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1326.JPG I didn't take a picture after I melted away the old cement (with lacquer thinner) and sanded the wood clean. I'll do so later. I then moved on to the two radiator stay bars. I removed them, sanded away the rust and degreased the un-rusty bits, then cleaned the ends on the wire wheel. I then primered them and painted them gloss black. Here is a picture of the bars with the paint drying. This has to be one of the most boring pictures yet posted. :-P http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1327.JPG The reason for the tags is obvious. I think I'm done for today. Its 34C ( 93F ) with typical south Texas humidity, in the garage and I just don't want any more of that right now. Happy Saturday, -rick Note: The "...no overall direction in mind..." line is a double salute to "Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency" and "Willard and the Bowling Trophies." ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 13 15:39:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B1A40454 for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 15:39:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm1.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm8-vm1.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D847D4041E for ; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 15:38:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.239] by nm8.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jul 2013 21:38:14 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.236] by tm20.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jul 2013 21:38:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jul 2013 21:38:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 23244 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Jul 2013 21:38:14 -0000 s=s1024; t=1373751494; bh=+56INqsY+3FknmA3Bo/+Z7sX7Hl1QS6RbPymfdgHrqM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wjXRIvn25KPXyGCb32dQO/sc+nPpHGQDNLXVscBfZCh+lfolGAdtzcmBz9/5TMZaek6Gh7OxBUcmun4ptd682Pzc3KmcJThgH7uXC0kLvOngNwIF5bVwOWZSQSvhulrDtacy+5M5qsVGtqIq2oM/4OXORu0HHIla89c3ZcE1Aoc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FeJIm5gNWiNsG012ztHb6rG4c2BZnj2rL73wSrhNxU7JlGimagBH+PxuPI8qHsXEp7aVRLEABFe6xvHJU727SNTB8d9pTpSHlGkQ2Hyfr89B+MtWRHX7orykB5l+/hGoavd/HhdqUAWu2PwEY5Z2u5AXd8qhHgDwq0pCp7o1z2Q= ; GQvvfUATZzLG5naR4gAnUuk2reg8JqS7bpuhBwd5WD9lmJRNbJY0QOb4duD0 qpOT2fJkmeDy_Mp41S2JO3rn__nLMNCtwlJtyjS49bcsThEGI7CyEieYAj5R mX.qOffzyldk9wpI5Vh.hxGOtQ9KDz5_h0kjXMOqYrQ7iLChr5VkARK5ev6. rxG4aMLyoEdwJl_Jklozav44fGwbRwmzWoz7RJGtGDRKJjUAwwPOqhBhXC.A Jp.xaML2Y68Uom7_4S7BxV5E6RRKZXOQVnQ.aNIta4CCnzP15HA8qiqJBNsV mjwifUP6vSevfQY5TW3_1vp8wVpbQwDHJIg0A907Q30wztp8v2Yt1QtOMSyj yUqzH0EjwJ4eUBjsbVlKitITWOlQXqzX.h.QOe6vj4zcaQjSRyk5Cx.x4A55 9ecBVK9DlTi3SrfaJDv_RibrUIPQJgaSNiemmqgFJ7DaUs9fCzsOwA6lAWU7 JRnKMLmdwaHpMgOWZ92wl4cBJV7TFB4winvNUFiRZmHWvxD2GomNrlc0uQO8 - Received: from [96.49.208.191] by web171805.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 13 Jul 2013 22:38:14 BST SSBub3RpY2VkIGxhc3Qgd2VlayB0aGF0IEhhcmJvdXIgRnJpZ2h0IGhhcyBhbiBhdXRvbWF0aWMgY29tcHJlc3NvciBkcmFpbiBraXQ7ICQxMCBvciBzbywgaWYgbWVtb3J5IHNlcnZlcy4gwqBNaWdodCBoZWxwLgoKUmVnYXJkcywgTG9kZ2UsIFRDIDE3MDQgaW4gaG90IGFuZCBzdW5ueSBWYW5jb3V2ZXIuCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIEZyb206IFJpY2sgTGluZHNheSA8cmljaGFyZG9saW5kc2F5QGdtYWlsLmNvbT4KVG86IG1nLXRAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQgClNlbnQ6IFMBMAEBAQE- References: <4xsaclpkvnocx3ob5o1hw15q.1373717198435@email.android.com> Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2013 22:38:14 +0100 (BST) From: David Lodge To: Rick Lindsay , "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Back to the garage... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net I noticed last week that Harbour Fright has an automatic compressor drain kit; $10 or so, if memory serves. Might help. Regards, Lodge, TC 1704 in hot and sunny Vancouver. ________________________________ From: Rick Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, 13 July 2013, 5:06 Subject: [Mg-t] Back to the garage... Hello Friends, I'm off to the garage. B (Retirement is awesome.) B Yesterday I cleaned up most of the mess, except the work benches. B I'd left them a nasty mess, cluttered with rusty thermostat bits, before the trip. B Today I address those buggers. B As we all know, a disassembled car takes up three times the space of an assembled one. B I have to fit all that stuff into a two-car space so keeping things clean and organized is the key to not loosing things or worse, getting hurt. B The goal is to have the garage ready by tomorrow so I can start back working on the TD. I have also learned that I have to clean my air compressor. B Here in Houston's high humidity, condensation in the tank is a bad problem. B Its so bad now that the compressor is spitting a little water! B I'll drain the compressor and tank, and clean it up as part of the garage clean up. B I cerainly can't paint with it as-is, even with moisture filters on the spray guns...and I want to start painting! Happy Saturday, -rick, who's brain is not yet back on Central time. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/emmgeeteecee@yahoo.co.uk ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 06:27:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32364069A for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 06:27:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from nm40-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm40-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.209]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD6034006F for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 06:27:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.146] by nm40.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2013 12:27:14 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.160] by tm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2013 12:27:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp217.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2013 12:27:14 -0000 s=s1024; t=1373804834; bh=Q9PaapLW99ZCB5BuDUMCgCA3532ny2nL7LkjmCTGaJE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=bGe6X1gKyMLIRzKAIsCRL+Mu2X6rsXjehgwjS4p+4UYvNx9WE9jJwsUWmbsE9yX2ZZeWjyZgcCpeYNcn5h6yN7TV0Lr90o0oMnlqAM3qzw8+J70lds/fooWwbGKcD46WjvYOzpllA0jRfafwNnYom0xvO1CnDhVpfKiDLsGhKLE= h45B0xokMLf4a1iCpKh6JuxtA4zFU.7EdcX3mTmSni2AXaGAhyfnlRgZLgxp IHvULUUa_1IFm3KTONO3TrN.pEUkSyvjsB1slAfH4euzCcLbzpWPjEnEaSKd WteCZJFLTs5Bej_zO6kA3BNr6vzp6DrHZjaTXLsJu9gVSTa9CG_pO2b4R2bQ GFOZcrCu15GJ5IgF200U54KL4y3f0wzFJfDpCkChqlzyNOuMwQwO9T_3J_rN mZ3RGEnB71J7r9GUFi.HECs5JJWWqBDRseXkRXmBzj.s26mG6QvbIhlpuVvh 7cpVnH.X6XU7sNV16WsL9rqxXO95GLQluWwYfqGKRgZ2UnKv61Uua8zPvZDk sGZ8HHCeEwfqX5hbkgeloJm5LE1WXUfp2na1lZlgO88rjKgn5Av0btUGwUmR UOduvlVbopNje8jBHkKfKRPKo0YHP92PLnUlFj7yTl51jlaLI4njUQceCh6N LQMfvclBAStGBYYHUTn68DOLCzvkzEKgTMjCHFTY- smtp217.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jul 2013 05:27:14 -0700 PDT References: <4xsaclpkvnocx3ob5o1hw15q.1373717198435@email.android.com> <1373751494.13723.YahooMailNeo@web171805.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> From: Gene Gillam Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 07:27:12 -0500 To: David Lodge Cc: "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Back to the garage... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net I don't think the HF kits will work on a large compressor, their pressure rating is too low. Gene Pardon the brevity, this was sent from my iPad On Jul 13, 2013, at 16:38, David Lodge wrote: I noticed last week that Harbour Fright has an automatic compressor drain kit; $10 or so, if memory serves. Might help. Regards, Lodge, TC 1704 in hot and sunny Vancouver. ________________________________ From: Rick Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, 13 July 2013, 5:06 Subject: [Mg-t] Back to the garage... Hello Friends, I'm off to the garage. B (Retirement is awesome.) B Yesterday I cleaned up most of the mess, except the work benches. B I'd left them a nasty mess, cluttered with rusty thermostat bits, before the trip. B Today I address those buggers. B As we all know, a disassembled car takes up three times the space of an assembled one. B I have to fit all that stuff into a two-car space so keeping things clean and organized is the key to not loosing things or worse, getting hurt. B The goal is to have the garage ready by tomorrow so I can start back working on the TD. I have also learned that I have to clean my air compressor. B Here in Houston's high humidity, condensation in the tank is a bad problem. B Its so bad now that the compressor is spitting a little water! B I'll drain the compressor and tank, and clean it up as part of the garage clean up. B I cerainly can't paint with it as-is, even with moisture filters on the spray guns...and I want to start painting! Happy Saturday, -rick, who's brain is not yet back on Central time. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/emmgeeteecee@yahoo.co.uk ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/anngene@bellsouth.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 08:03:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D4040C02 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 08:03:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com (mail-oa0-f41.google.com [209.85.219.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC57F40525 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 08:03:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id n10so14849719oag.0 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 07:03:36 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=Ltyq5YXMWLz4+wpOQNv8Ggqp0oRsnb9QjJ3TDzF4tFo=; b=wzHeOD4Q9fyTTXLtuvO2F5bDup2Yj1nTdMwq5+vDcNWtl2Gw17vDLJt7S+kAOeG8c5 ARLvcHQfCyhSCEXrSf/5alsXQMHIq2ewbGA3EhWAakzQNclvL2TyS07mkHcNR8ioOoOc nIMA47IsNdNlHfMt+eFfwTAeEh7G202Q7PLNUzhnihjFAIXbrABVnwoj0QRpL47lh43T Rht5VUnbv2vRgoKlctAMZsEasKvde+Qtz1npMooIYCPHT0+FJ+u2Jct5rgq2lg62V2T9 R4gJOXvmssnSMqv8by54i1qJORq/CCCWBpnEhgFlJN/TirWOK27lRw4ihZHgBb6QXRwY QB/w== z10mr40798565obk.74.1373810616830; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 07:03:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. 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Today is a planning day, not a wrenching day. -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 10:39:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC27842264 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:39:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f177.google.com (unknown [209.85.214.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F7240535 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:32:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f177.google.com with SMTP id ta17so13034524obb.8 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:32:19 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=LR8Ye1pSULN5Pzdn7/2njD2X2fy6pzryH9S28TdYEsw=; b=Fpy5p8reOhJU4RvegI01Fc13zuUB/5hFTDnFkwDCFh214tL1Mx4N1gn5MLfo0W2k5O HOl3AKQjhvlE+e6cboX3GeNP6UfaKDfxUn91Yu7fKyg8Bvnc90kAkK/GG7jJrF/v4jSB rRE0sGUMzPTTdYj2Zg0YsVykqZ+eT6icALDomPLwEmXwTJo+NmQ6WmP1usht/Yerbr1i SZ6mfq3cH+G7uHJcIcr3+Ij4uyStQRjToq8o89G6XdRcySDeTEdYEYz0ao6kLMx8XBM/ T/ud5GfahhW2Q29IsUwLpuvw3OjGtSV2r8E2nP0axYILKxYBh7mb4FY5A+iOCHVKCLbh 5gVQ== nm4mr2178164obb.56.1373819539673; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:32:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id cp7sm64427294obb.0.2013.07.14.09.32.18 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 14 Jul 2013 09:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 11:32:15 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, What is the preferred method of mounting an XPAG on an engine stand? -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 11:41:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69FF94069F for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 11:41:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f45.google.com (mail-vb0-f45.google.com [209.85.212.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA23840436; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 11:41:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f45.google.com with SMTP id p14so2642975vbm.18 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:41:49 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zYI7Pqo4zdxkY+pVTgHV1xSutE0ldcWZlK0WpcsiRGc=; b=tWY5/m3+ap628kOhAEekAAofrHtdttF5vd9k0hKfk3yE8JwpbJDprhq+lHC3b4/PYi 6++HitWviUhM7J3AzjU5EU9nM0mbrXYdSeOAcB1pVFVJBsEwily7Tc9tIPj1mW2LOwV5 /T90rgUlj/z/39q4hnyXYjRhEUhVdzYniHgqCpbBn52eP3KrmfeXB6T6KMh6CCyNojNI 0yBUr44i2yRlOAjKvmEecNA5aJZ2x8uXAFX2lEl1zn9dHNtfPM1yMd4pYmmBmDd99bQL zqBmdW9Kuh6B3Ijo9wJukzJy3nGwr1JhxuOjaBMNdF1PS4FNLWIrFwmq9IbSA595Ob2P A5AA== ay3mr26906331ved.78.1373823709550; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.66 with HTTP; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 10:41:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 12:41:49 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net, "mgs@autox.team.net List" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] TD work planning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, Planning today. First up is moving back to the tub. The wings, running boards and valances are no-brainers but the tub still needs work. Let me explain. The rear of the tub is just fine. Here it is with primer on the metal, and a light coat of primer on the wood. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130509_093433.jpg The metal and wood on the right side sill is sound but all the wood is dry. I soaked the wood on this side with multiple wet coats of Minwax's Wood Hardener, following the maker's instructions. Doing so saturated the wood and hardened it beautifully. I followed that work with wood filler in the divots, just to make the surfaces even again. Here's a look at the sill with the cured wood filler in place but not yet sanded smooth. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1328.JPG The metal behind the passenger seat is sound. The metal behind the driver's seat has a small rusted through hole. This area will be repaired before reassembly begins. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1329.JPG The right side of the sill is another story. The metal is sound but the wood needs replacement. I've already purchased the new timbers and will install them in the next week or so. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1330.JPG The cowl wood has a few divots around the rear attachment point for the bonnet. I still need to infill these divots with wood filler so I can attach the rubber trim smoothly across this area. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1331.JPG Here are a couple of pictures of the front end of the tub, still needing cleaning and primering. The battery area cries out for a new battery box. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1332.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1333.JPG The tool box needs to be cleaned and refitted with light tan felt. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1334.JPG And while still in the garage, I took a picture of the pedal shaft and pedal box. This area needs a full restoration. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1335.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1337.JPG I continue to plan... -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 16:27:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B896142704 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 16:27:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail15.tpgi.com.au (mail15.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.61]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FDCD403E4 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 16:27:25 -0600 (MDT) date=Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:27:23 +1000; auth=/X0J75t1ChDYY67dqz+6Qd4jQKMnvLVol4kYJX68JBs= Received: from ghs-wks03.ghs.local (60-242-4-206.static.tpgi.com.au [60.242.4.206]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail15.tpgi.com.au (envelope-from arundell@ghs.com.au) (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r6EMRHkT001148 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:27:23 +1000 From: Murray Arundell Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:27:17 +1000 References: To: Rick Lindsay Cc: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net I'd use bolts, but if you're feeling lucky try glue........ Murray Arundell On 15/07/2013, at 2:32 AM, Rick Lindsay wrote: > Hi Friends, > > What is the preferred method of mounting an XPAG on an engine stand? > > -rick > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/arundell@ghs.com.au ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 16:30:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC42242705 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 16:30:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f54.google.com (mail-oa0-f54.google.com [209.85.219.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C65F4044C for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 16:30:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id o6so14760659oag.41 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:30:12 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:cc:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=3Wcqs0wa74Y4WN9tdz6WA06Cd9oVh8mG8Y24zC/xd0M=; b=RHGMDF9OD1kR4dmphNUZFNd0vU4s7veVUb3Zydf1SmMb2+NQTpgQJnXHeuiZCiNTCW WLs3PQV1oJRWaAB4LiIrty231CKTEJ/4zWBztDXRv7L1RWszt6BsqUflckUYcRPxQY/L 1wg1wWWGSGyG2sI63F6wWHcRZ1aQ9z1urnPJ7lh7vuu/cbIepPHgYtprqQQloj+UOpiV cMiLLuYlaxhbvwZbZ6oGeuaEHd1VAGg7nf9wiOdRYtM7rve0BZSoW0QxTGV2aRFMzeZi RDkTQt2fKKGPzn14S1COhKNPb3iP/ckbuMUQqOaOUEe16cy/74waC1hmhfa1bpIlnJHl 8pWA== sp7mr42263034obb.14.1373841012048; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:30:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.72] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id df11sm66938330oec.0.2013.07.14.15.30.10 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:30:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 17:31:45 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: arundell@ghs.com.au Cc: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wow. B That helps! -rick Sent from Samsung tabletMurray Arundell wrote:I'd use bolts, but if you're feeling lucky try glue........ Murray Arundell On 15/07/2013, at 2:32 AM, Rick Lindsay wrote: > Hi Friends, > > What is the preferred method of mounting an XPAG on an engine stand? > > -rick > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donationB $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/arundell@ghs.com.au ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 16:30:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1270742704 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 16:30:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail15.tpgi.com.au (mail15.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.61]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33F74044C for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 16:30:50 -0600 (MDT) date=Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:30:49 +1000; auth=/X0J75t1ChDYY67dqz+6Qd4jQKMnvLVol4kYJX68JBs= Received: from ghs-wks03.ghs.local (60-242-4-206.static.tpgi.com.au [60.242.4.206]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail15.tpgi.com.au (envelope-from arundell@ghs.com.au) (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id r6EMUlW3013341 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:30:49 +1000 From: Murray Arundell Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:30:46 +1000 References: To: Rick Lindsay Cc: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Just trying to be helpful...... :-) On 15/07/2013, at 8:31 AM, Rick Lindsay wrote: > Wow. That helps! > > > -rick > Sent from Samsung tablet > > Murray Arundell wrote: > I'd use bolts, but if you're feeling lucky try glue........ > > Murray Arundell > > On 15/07/2013, at 2:32 AM, Rick Lindsay wrote: > > > Hi Friends, > > > > What is the preferred method of mounting an XPAG on an engine stand? > > > > -rick > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. > > ______________________________________________ > > > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/arundell@ghs.com.au ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 16:52:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92B042707 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 16:52:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FE14044C for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 16:50:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.167] by nm24.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2013 22:50:42 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.232] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2013 22:50:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1003.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2013 22:50:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 41816 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jul 2013 22:50:42 -0000 s=s1024; t=1373842242; bh=YDpXo/JQcIviLE9E/udM4z+QDEuSits6mlfVlmBcCHA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Jy075T/s37V6hGRP7R8j0ZHdCMUUxlASTs3jlgKl5PgZb5cHc4wtXWYV4IlXVciMcqFoqwb07/zVuwfrqXiM5MTM2z4F38dMVeSbOJjGsyVX5rrfaviWbgOmnGjzTv4mqNTR0ansoFDuoZ9HYtrODA1brirTv1VuYbQihV7K6FA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wDbYmvOxh7LHqhG4gmEFqWtDtFZBw5/AjbA3i+AwYBv0wo0Blf2Eq8CEfYVa+2bv3Lnus8LREGyYEMqe61JSWHb+hA3BiwmcG49eo+nkunGdQf8of7vwhj+JnMytlGaeyO5Cqeb76ukUcCOg4tJj1XqZf9Ev3OFcHIiBRNpTuhg= ; h9lTX52TEaIQZcprdT3HHyHnGuz4hP8hOOdZ0EPe1acjmE2QjM4F.St9W8Lh eVa2kKKlPy4ipF3W1saBFw2XaHo6MLMnJrYNAipSR7cg42mBcvN7Di3FWeid e0brN4Fljh8fp.J0ttp9EGPULGVc.dJa0_Hgx3YR1zVKkpGGYm7nFcubZHYs dBC44cY41ysvZ.ovrSOTYKck0mExS0C0LqnvUjv_QJDPITP01HDcDXvDPQRT _eGbjoAQ8._R2c17YV1H8N9ZCibwu9pVAjLGo2ZiILjr2eJVD67oMpEuVERA 2eT9q1jMrtYiqpLyumGm3fhda0Qq2sVkUt4cWE6XrbBwkRzG.2uYq8u3a3DH bAkdeq.S3_xgbtgPQ1NtFIrgpNBuOp3ukZoQ3btKUchzM_EWQjsB9shr3Uzp dT6.XRet7VJ6KW4LXC8PtstwVrWdVKLLUcdefombiUrwBT0HVgGkt7.yijCY 9pRztc7_xdaLlsXzdCZd3wm069Liee5oCymH0GiaKQEACr_m1jMa8brbTc8F saPLNNi9K9qLDbJE6G8Q2sNQ_9U7u Received: from [71.131.182.189] by web181304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:50:42 PDT SSBvbmNlIHRyaWVkIHRvIG1vdW50IGEgWFBBRyDCoG9uIGFuIGVuZ2luZSBzdGFuZC4uLi4uZm91bmQgaXQgdG8gdXNlbGVzcy4uLi5hIHdvcmsgYmVuY2ggaXMgbXVjaCBiZXR0ZXIuClRlcnJ5IGluIE9ha2xhbmQKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogTXVycmF5IEFydW5kZWxsIDxhcnVuZGVsbEBnaHMuY29tLmF1PgpUbzogUmljayBMaW5kc2F5IDxyaWNoYXJkb2xpbmRzYXlAZ21haWwuY29tPiAKQ2M6IG1nLXRAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQgClNlbnQ6IFN1bmRheSwgSnUBMAEBAQE- References: <8B14F9DA-25C3-4493-A40F-A0AA53F14A9C@ghs.com.au> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 15:50:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Sanders To: Murray Arundell , Rick Lindsay Cc: "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net I once tried to mount a XPAG on an engine stand.....found it to useless....a work bench is much better. Terry in Oakland ________________________________ From: Murray Arundell To: Rick Lindsay Cc: mg-t@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG Just trying to be helpful...... :-) On 15/07/2013, at 8:31 AM, Rick Lindsay wrote: > Wow. That helps! > > > -rick > Sent from Samsung tablet > > Murray Arundell wrote: > I'd use bolts, but if you're feeling lucky try glue........ > > Murray Arundell > > On 15/07/2013, at 2:32 AM, Rick Lindsay wrote: > > > Hi Friends, > > > > What is the preferred method of mounting an XPAG on an engine stand? > > > > -rick > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. > > ______________________________________________ > > > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > > > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/arundell@ghs.com.au ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/taterry@pacbell.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 17:00:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B181142705 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 17:00:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm2-vm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C854340528 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 17:00:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.166] by nm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2013 23:00:36 -0000 Received: from [67.195.22.117] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2013 23:00:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp112.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jul 2013 23:00:36 -0000 s=s1024; t=1373842836; bh=unAnzm/oCrTikehwoOnRk6jDhuYC3I9OXo+tYsvzLjc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=3qkGg0vkIJKin0hvacbA1KVNxN0Ux8ncmgsEOzEFHCkKysi/NmoPjZ87hXsWquP/m9z7icAHT9h8YVZCFI2UD1CQp6HoiJS97+z7R3nUx6pVq/mWS2lOTC40qVb+t9nCiG0uku3ewTIjciLzlv6+9k05CFP6BsTc+hNJCkpTJh8= RLMrWSNBaTpXnm9AJAC8IGnwD0FhtTKKVJF.NMwQ7TUSTV4bd1AHuean85hM NpB3R18V2PSb1F4dT8qxuHxpU6aAzNxbRjqMO6naYw9_J4dQ1fnoMlKQnLLr GcbxBrCJIbrqrjzrIkCGc12T9uny1xGWQwTNmIiuBYxW8gUusA9SAoLpVJJL __omNDofaXMBwhBqpsdQSy_IIE01LUjgFhMrs0WHDVSLvqsukHcEcDycK.je Z3g1eNzX7I8OKJ2FskLlaWqY.GFdSvDvbmUJf9m.QzpyMg5fovH3jolIqRPh .ZIS3xeTfTxdFOIbgSBbKlRvpFx0PmwFEGp9o8aethzbXDPvWHsxexm0_JHQ Po5YwhUm8OkGb2677iCauCIMDW6XZ8Wrssp1ahq2vArzWZxM8YBYHgCPPLG3 BCRxvLs31ycSrItCp0jHKiDJQgGMeW9ahfBlHxM9G5DA1LPwulbZ3GmGQiuF dqEtpdK5fQc5fKcETRir2obJnmZSEV0hOJdxY smtp112.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jul 2013 16:00:36 -0700 PDT Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 18:00:34 -0500 From: Charles Hill User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: mg-t@autox.team.net References: <8B14F9DA-25C3-4493-A40F-A0AA53F14A9C@ghs.com.au> <1373842242.39723.YahooMailNeo@web181304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net I never got that far. I didn't want to take a chance with only 4 8mm bolts holding up the engine. A work bench is much safer. Not that I am against engine stands. I've used one a lot on things such as Chevy V8s. Charles Hill On 7/14/2013 5:50 PM, Terry Sanders wrote: > I once tried to mount a XPAG on an engine stand.....found it to useless....a > work bench is much better. > Terry in Oakland ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 18:03:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 017744053A for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 18:03:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D6140435 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 18:03:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0Ptc1m0021HzFnQ56Q3Jd2; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 00:03:18 +0000 Received: from GenePC ([65.96.195.105]) by omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0Q3H1m01R2GusAh3aQ3J6R; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 00:03:18 +0000 From: "Gene" To: References: <8B14F9DA-25C3-4493-A40F-A0AA53F14A9C@ghs.com.au> <1373842242.39723.YahooMailNeo@web181304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <51E32D92.9040202@sbcglobal.net> Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 20:03:15 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6A5f2MlxszG6UKQ+GPMZJ4kaxliAACIW3Q Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1373846598; bh=YaqdsL43KUrc+iaK2qv0EZB+TtPnBdvxl6jkZq2ICGU=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=fbq7TO+l27dg8By2hSJxPsTo6tl7oV9l/Zv3vz/Mh0LZY8ClV+g/+q832K/2mt3dt yKUrLNhHNaKKmqgkfRMy0U5ba7q8nwfWmHO6MufsPsaehlcHy2eywU+RhJo8l5l5uq EikrwQDnLqwGJMJ7CmPo3aUrB1N3GlMwgn1qBJenIRbQihGFMGU6kPSysX93SyBVTs Yu8b2xgHkEMXPeYJpeLTQa4ekrDp+nTX6x/Fl+N3ukKu2C42DS5IW66LCd3W0LOSP5 S8CZ0yQLpnCEf5vXs58h1fn1h0lK0zgyqnxANBLhPqSaVw8jGvU2yFTuaqqtxnh8np 0jmT5pK+fxoBw== Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net I've heard tell that a grocery cart with the basket removed can be easily modified to carry the XPAG ... never tried it though. G Vermont -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charles Hill Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:01 PM To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG I never got that far. I didn't want to take a chance with only 4 8mm bolts holding up the engine. A work bench is much safer. Not that I am against engine stands. I've used one a lot on things such as Chevy V8s. Charles Hill On 7/14/2013 5:50 PM, Terry Sanders wrote: > I once tried to mount a XPAG on an engine stand.....found it to > useless....a work bench is much better. > Terry in Oakland ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/crownwheel@comcast.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 18:12:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 407AE4053A for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 18:12:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail7c25-1785.carrierzone.com (mail7c25-1785.carrierzone.com [64.29.147.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6890540334 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 18:12:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from plausa.com (plaseram-gw.customer.alter.net [63.66.38.238] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mail7c25-1785.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r6F0CWlq011737; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 00:12:34 GMT Received: from 10.10.0.11 by plausa.com with SMTP; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 20:13:33 -0400 Received: from MSERVER.PLASSERUSA.COM ([fe80::8506:be5c:fde0:50a2]) by MSERVER.PLASSERUSA.com ([fe80::8506:be5c:fde0:50a2%10]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 20:13:33 -0400 From: Ron Olds To: Rick Lindsay , "mg-t@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG Thread-Index: AQHOgLI+NFkOaRH2bE2ydPGSQCj4Q5lk3aQg Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 00:13:32 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.10.0.135] a=Uy-bu7-60c4A:10 a=6erICXQavsoA:10 a=aWpDN6JOaUgA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=pSk3U5zQ5k+FXcUof0lIzw==:17 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=4QKFqgILAAAA:8 a=6VgHB8F89dttY1DLGTMA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=fm6Sv6J__GwA:10 a=v2V8PyU7F8UA:10 a=kB584znziBIA:10 a=zee8tk4_CSIA:10 a=zhMRcyEhnvUA:10 a=0mUpw9oFRS8A:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=jHqhL58HGh8A:10 a=v35Ya3IxRM0DJM7Y:21 a=y4jbg8wop-SxNDQo:21 a=pSk3U5zQ5k+FXcUof0lIzw==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Rick, Used a conventional engine stand for my engine with no difficulties. I did need to make four pieces out of bar stock because I couldn't get the engine stands mounting to come in close enough to bolt up to the engine. I bolted the brackets to the engine and then to the engine stand. Ronald Olds Sales Manager Plasser American Corporation PO Box 5464 2001 Myers Road Chesapeake, VA 23324-0464 Phone (757) 543-3526 Cell (630) 240-0818 Fax (757) 494-7186 The information contained in this e-mail including any attachments may be proprietary, privileged or confidential and is intended solely for the use of the addressee. Any unauthorized distribution, disclosure or any other such use is strictly prohibited. Furthermore, any reviews, dissemination or copying by anyone other than the intended recipient is expressly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and destroy all copies of the original transmittal. -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Lindsay Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 12:32 PM To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG Hi Friends, What is the preferred method of mounting an XPAG on an engine stand? -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/rolds@plausa.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 18:56:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECBD40425 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 18:56:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3CE403F0 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 18:55:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.73]) by qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0QP51m0051ap0As56QvV9c; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 00:55:29 +0000 Received: from [10.255.179.209] ([174.228.0.106]) by omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0QvJ1m00B2HDY3y3iQvLQG; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 00:55:27 +0000 To: "Gene" ,mg-t@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:55:27 -0500 s=q20121106; t=1373849729; bh=JLQK3Biireeh0G2eWRXm7/bkuoLSvlbneBVDACvV3es=; h=Received:Received:To:From:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ATEp2fcQhlJBI+Ap4Uk7DREV2yxAn7fmq71bpOBxImCgA3uZxeWsVyetjH3P2rX26 bDWyzKfZJPkNdiP2QJnMNJ+nW5Ifdzl+B5y8LsJWdaEsM2XEJcB8yqF5nsg9WFt8GW Zlfb7kaBSyJQSPgwYchQjcAnUnS3r4CBAmDK8N+YKmv+WKUf/BeBpyyRYlsWvg94ZW FjQdQsh0Vct8QpQ/RgzDv5kr4DXfk/aVu5ZAmL/BVnUo/5gTqIJwDdOhSp4H6FNXdh C5c4kkqNnGMtREZlazwUiF2I8yd8CWDXqy4v7zkrBbd7GdEXHWc8oJgb7/DC69fYQj MxbDptJdiy/8w== Subject: Re: [Mg-t] =?utf-8?q?Engine_stand_+_XPAG?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Gene usually uses one of those fold up ladders. It's ok, gene. I squealed. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Gene" To: Subject: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG Date: Sun, Jul 14, 2013 7:03 pm I've heard tell that a grocery cart with the basket removed can be easily modified to carry the XPAG ... never tried it though. G Vermont -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charles Hill Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:01 PM To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG I never got that far. I didn't want to take a chance with only 4 8mm bolts holding up the engine. A work bench is much safer. Not that I am against engine stands. I've used one a lot on things such as Chevy V8s. Charles Hill On 7/14/2013 5:50 PM, Terry Sanders wrote: > I once tried to mount a XPAG on an engine stand.....found it to > useless....a work bench is much better. > Terry in Oakland ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/crownwheel@comcast.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 19:36:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23ED44041A for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:36:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 591AB400A4 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:36:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id va7so13143830obc.41 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 18:36:34 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=7UX7/gGmvtRsz4nSfe4Uj7Rzc+j3cgxCgULzo0gm6CA=; b=AnuK1Mn6EtGX6o+70imFSFJKCjY8V+G5tpq1DStZkuKWiXxDFr67No4pj26+8PK2yA qAj7mQwLSlAL+n08ZqzfpYmU8++1q/hMhf6zqagzqqBbB7aNE1YJXV9506q8L94nS2yE Ae/m9xtDU5uhDfgrSrgbnTtWvDTNk4jp3dr7fwcBwIcIJehDsQn4Uv8jQ39H1Rrfcjt3 DzvC95XKywZsgXWMFKoj2atcivUiZXmJgaqvIeXis/Dmey1KSerUvhY1cfjVfUCP3Azo lxPEm6YHaJXQ6dlHsp6mEMYTGvtSIR09M9v5hITz7/HkSauOuFC/wQVKMsuuex9fAhmz nbkA== j6mr41736254oem.56.1373852194290; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 18:36:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hm1sm66111385obb.9.2013.07.14.18.36.33 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 14 Jul 2013 18:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 20:36:31 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks everyone.B -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. -------- Original message -------- From: spook01@comcast.net Date: 07/14/2013 7:55 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Gene ,mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG Gene usually uses one of those fold up ladders. It's ok, gene.B I squealed. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Gene" To: Subject: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG Date: Sun, Jul 14, 2013 7:03 pm I've heard tell that a grocery cart with the basket removed can be easily modified to carry the XPAG ... never tried it though. G Vermont -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Charles Hill Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 7:01 PM To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG I never got that far.B I didn't want to take a chance with only 4 8mm bolts holding up the engine.B A work bench is much safer.B Not that I am against engine stands.B I've used one a lot on things such as Chevy V8s. Charles Hill On 7/14/2013 5:50 PM, Terry Sanders wrote: > I once tried to mount a XPAGB on an engine stand.....found it to > useless....a work bench is much better. > Terry in Oakland ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/crownwheel@comcast.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 21:35:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009BA40449 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 21:35:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A353403E4 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 21:35:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0SpK1m0020EPchoAATbN9q; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 03:35:22 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2601:5:1dc0:15:541c:f68d:f7ed:1ded] ([IPv6:2601:5:1dc0:15:541c:f68d:f7ed:1ded]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0TbM1m0091iVVNt8MTbMZK; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 03:35:22 +0000 Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 20:35:19 -0700 From: Glenn Schnittke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: mg-t@autox.team.net References: s=q20121106; t=1373859322; bh=ei9KAxewSkcyf+JmEFPruRUS49wgf2B9S8Ilc9pZGhE=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=J2zEoooXhxZ6X/pJRK7EEqWrdQiWfc4e5de1ot587DvNClTwlFSG05iDaUVafZEOG Ucv4iQifgNRn/RBVe6+OO/KWBd2QWMVKo+mHxgCUmQcLJS2dQYzS0hlIpCRqY5pAYY inEuSMAkXTSAFBcmecp1b55lNB/iwGUFFnIfKwCgs5z6AvwYmrBxaTjSFPElajs45B nJtoCRzZVFmtfX/3COvZG1y2Fe14KYSb6fNsnymOMyfvq8Z+Lh3k5Kwqo93CHNHTgT YNIXEc27FH9AnBla1q2u2+YbnfjidpwfxMgkfNnt2AzSIqpMlx0LTSLymnuVjc+tM9 pCyw0z05XwD6Q== Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Mg-t Digest, Vol 7, Issue 102 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Yeah... glue would work, but hard to get off. Race tape is better. It'll come off. But if you know it's going to take a while, POR-15 will stick to anything. I found that fixing the stand to the front of the block allowed me to get the rear taken apart quite easily, and then it's a combination of bench and, yes, four 8mm bolts at the rear. It's not a heavy block. At half my age I could lift it loaded. Hmm. Maybe I shouldn't have said it that way. Glenn On 7/14/2013 6:36 PM, mg-t-request@autox.team.net wrote: > Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG > Message-ID:<502E0C10-05D9-483C-91F2-E4022B2985E5@ghs.com.au> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > I'd use bolts, but if you're feeling lucky try glue........ > > Murray Arundell > > On 15/07/2013, at 2:32 AM, Rick Lindsay wrote: > >> >Hi Friends, >> > >> >What is the preferred method of mounting an XPAG on an engine stand? >> > >> >-rick >> >Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just > like a BlackBerry. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 14 21:38:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F53640443 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 21:38:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E6B403E4 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 21:38:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1316AA0394 for ; Sun, 14 Jul 2013 21:38:51 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 21:38:50 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: mg-t@autox.team.net References: <51E36DF7.5070303@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Mg-t Digest, Vol 7, Issue 102 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Glenn Schnittke wrote: > > > It's not a heavy block. At half my age I could lift it loaded. Hmm. > Maybe I shouldn't have said it that way. > So at your age now you only get half loaded? mjb. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 15 01:43:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BAA240425 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 01:43:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-1.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-1.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E508A403BA for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 01:43:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cypress ([86.8.152.135]) by know-smtprelay-1-imp with bizsmtp id 0XjL1m00N2vXtG601XjLJd; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:43:20 +0100 a=6erICXQavsoA:10 a=uObrxnre4hsA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=t1cGqjV_9WsA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=38At0T2Ay8cUno5tyeYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=PwYPgAp4zzY326Yfju+9Og==:117 From: "Clive Sherriff" To: "Rick Lindsay" , References: Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 08:43:20 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net I generally used to just assemble on the bench, it's not like a V 16 where you have to spend hours putting it together. Then, however, I bought a second hand Yoda, from a Star Wars Surplus shop, and now it just hovers at the right height and he turns around to any angle I want it at. May the force be with you, Clive In a Galaxy far away . . . ! = ============================= ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Lindsay" To: Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2013 5:32 PM Subject: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG > Hi Friends, > > What is the preferred method of mounting an XPAG on an engine stand? > > -rick > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, > just like a BlackBerry. > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/clive.sherriff@ntlworld.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 15 05:58:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88FBC40434 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 05:58:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f176.google.com (mail-ob0-f176.google.com [209.85.214.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 491C7403FC for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 05:58:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f176.google.com with SMTP id v19so13571023obq.7 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 04:58:41 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=186kTh0VRAwaUiIcEgNaLT6RrlkGcS8gaZTfCRll0pA=; b=E5a9G3EB0cyShwP6C1QcF6+h1Jnfk+ecpMU8hk2vGZ5b0Boc2v1afl38xzfm94DPsC GQxgxQzFjNrVUI3FRqYQJ2h3GJjdfX+pqf8LfzaFItsaessL9FCOVEOmVfAWZ5k1uRPo D9pxEaWlLlxdQm3Rixnpuy6eYcwuKLNwYJ1zmbPdRSfR363ZQcK39isgkwN/5TqxlloQ IbMWwAb8DewTztCJxssJ1ZbPiFcLpi/fXihb+9tNE/E5kIES9fX0aB85AHc1wrjZgnkP cucUJ16QIYpYaLQLgJp/O3SrvH4Qoe4CvGtAq+x/n/mYQPQNo5VOC3cc3R2Efl9+riLF r9IQ== aq7mr42232558obc.103.1373889521014; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 04:58:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g1sm69248679oeq.6.2013.07.15.04.58.39 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 04:58:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 06:58:36 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: g.schnittke@comcast.net, mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Re. Engine mounting Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Glenn, et al., I have a nice ceiling- mounted electric hoist so moving the engine around is no problem. B I can easily change from front mount to rear mount to workbench. B Your advice is really appreciated in that (and all) regard(s). What I really was fishing for with my initial post was to learn whether there was a problem with using any particular mounting point (e.g. potential of breaking an ear off the casting, or something.) B I just didn't state my question well. B One kind list-member advised to use caution when positioning on the workbench to avoid bending the dipstick tube, as it's difficult to repair. Sounds like the rebuild job is straight forward except for fitting the pistons from below the deck. B One guy recommended fitting the pistons sans rings, from below of course, then pushing them up mostly above the deck, fitting the rings, then back in with a conventional ring compressor. B Sounds like an obvious if reasonable plan. B I love engine building; everything from clean-up, to measurements, to final assembly. B Its precision work and right down my nerdy alley. I've just about had my fill of scraping dirt and grease from the frame! :-P I hope to hear from two shops today; the chrome shop with a quote, and the radiator shop. B The chrome work I requested is just the radiator shell and cap plus the headlight pods. B They're 'acceptable' as-is, but against new paint, I'm afraid they will look shabby. B The other chrome is probably beyond saving. I took the TD radiator to the shop just to get it boiled out and clean. B There was no evidence of leaks and the system was full of fresh-looking coolant when I took it apart. B All should be fine once cleaned. B I also took to the shop, my friend's radiator from the Elan he's restoring. B Its getting a new core. B I rebuilt the Elan's Lotus-Ford Twincam engine earlier this year. B Its ready of go back in if Jack ever gets the frame prepped.B Off to the garage... -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. -------- Original message -------- From: Glenn Schnittke Date: 07/14/2013 10:35 PM (GMT-06:00) To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Mg-t Digest, Vol 7, Issue 102 ... I found that fixing the stand to the front of the block allowed me to get the rear taken apart quite easily, and then it's a combination of bench and, yes, four 8mm bolts at the rear. It's not a heavy block. At half my age I could lift it loaded. Hmm. Maybe I shouldn't have said it that way. Glenn ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 15 10:59:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9318540530 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:59:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy9.bluehost.com (oproxy9.bluehost.com [69.89.24.6]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E42E40066 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:56:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 17108 invoked by uid 0); 15 Jul 2013 16:56:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy9.bluehost.com with SMTP; 15 Jul 2013 16:56:55 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=z9+OfPjJRhlIUTi/DutFycgSUh8Zbhv7V0U/KcVT2fE=; b=dnqCNk4K3ziqSyU5UfPyNEHZba/+wIM93JXGwOA/mHxHBqYgqbZU7K3iMGzG/nngKjaZbbiBH9bvVhHEzlGrgpjwoE2hiLFE+9I6a+t1gpNbr3IqD4HrZtrNKN27yt3e; Received: from [24.15.13.164] (port=36507 helo=[192.168.0.101]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uym50-0007dQ-T0 for mg-t@autox.team.net; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 10:56:54 -0600 Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:58:00 -0500 From: "\" Just Brits \" Shop" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: mg-t@autox.team.net References: {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with shop@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Re. Engine mounting Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net << On 7/15/2013 6:58 AM, Rick Lindsay wrote: > the chrome shop with a quote, >> Hee Hee, what condition is your heart in, Rick ? ? ? << The other chrome is probably beyond saving. >> I suggest you take the original to the shop. You could be amazed at their talent to "repair/mend" parts. Several years ago just for grins, I sent a radiator shell to the chromer I use and IIRC the fee for "repairing/mending" was $100.00. Dubiously I told them to go ahead. Upon arrival I came close to having a heart attack myself; it was absolutely STUNNING ! ! And the slats were all straighten- ed, DE-chromed & primered ! ! There was a note with the Invoice that said by the Car's Numbers the slats should NOT be chromed, but painted Body Colour ! ! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 15 17:26:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7EE84052A for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:26:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.197]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C20B840405 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:26:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.56] by nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2013 23:26:51 -0000 Received: from [212.82.98.70] by tm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2013 23:26:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2013 23:26:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 93995 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Jul 2013 23:26:51 -0000 s=s1024; t=1373930811; bh=/z/y1QjyBVMcdJagRq+QTSGm5CrTPP8exWfaaaDNj5k=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=W3HnO/0i1wvqn7WWcRUt6J/vTczurPRoOwNI9hW0zv6KWbnDI7rW12qI9b0Fx4cumUtd8uQtSCTE/jqF6zYRJ1rv9+R5QZUCFxPG59MBC2JoL8HNvLF2AsL6IdyYqDstIpPcKw7jCvhtpg0J1dsMJb1WK4ysdY6c+lzpt2GVVt4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nV8o0AugxZ8wB+wSewNe3wcELZkiF9ye9EXDBnoQ/cu9WRj1SXb5AMFjdTDX8ZVDcbOgvoch1aKDylUy4Q/3bOxT3PqNbWEdZqtCeEFmIM6NtFIiHDe72I5SvCX+j7edDWlhQ4QKg/2x8FZ0Snzg9MlxhZhX5J2oZUmYmeu3apg= ; 6S6W7azlVXf_6x4ff5a0PC16eSjN.PJQvIZ2haptdLQLcXPJwRNi28w1SNDR DF34tZXhjE3aX.CByA7jhhQjJPhgPCv8RgDfnC.oioFPjWSdNriGexvZb46Q OUAAxKSioYDk2aTnGAIiuBh0iwMH7svZxmTqrF62r1SNsJ3As69lojDVefSW kjpYIABJDXKWWAyqvHH98S7EGnJgJfjOLbFQFA6YLo_eSqgII8Cng8f0584n f39jr60yXIK.RFEhNblSqNj6RN8d9n3xYGAf.9.kx35O74NxKZMz.I2cSTa. 2i2q91n3XXQ.ep6QFz4HPcuTG4T2gWzXtZv9dwynj3R5uu4hxVH4KfOshU_8 a1ntwdX09ZCANqRHXsENIWtX8AiS5fw7DMAsUvmCEZUeLdIK0jjA8WpNWYXL L4uZH_cgHSdv5..Xf_dU14SlixQOf5GjLMCjRSSDjI7tv_W2pizyUvtfFkYo nhmI5aifzUtDG14rBV.qhLeTa6pCs4FI_qwyjwVQFIe9YzHh7 Received: from [96.49.208.191] by web171806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 00:26:50 BST S25vdyB3aGF0IHlvdSBtZWFuLCBDaGFybGVzLiDCoEdvdCBhIFBvcnNjaGUgZW5naW5lIGhhbmdpbmcgb24gYW4gZW5naW5lIHN0YW5kIGF0IHRoZSBtby4gwqBWZXJ5IGV4Y2l0aW5nIQoKUmVnYXJkcywgRMKgCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIEZyb206IENoYXJsZXMgSGlsbCA8Y2hpbGxtb2dAc2JjZ2xvYmFsLm5ldD4KVG86IG1nLXRAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQgClNlbnQ6IFN1bmRheSwgMTQgSnVseSAyMDEzLCAxNjowMApTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogW01nLXRdIEVuZ2luZSBzdGEBMAEBAQE- References: <8B14F9DA-25C3-4493-A40F-A0AA53F14A9C@ghs.com.au> <1373842242.39723.YahooMailNeo@web181304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <51E32D92.9040202@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 00:26:50 +0100 (BST) From: David Lodge To: Charles Hill , "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Know what you mean, Charles. Got a Porsche engine hanging on an engine stand at the mo. Very exciting! Regards, D ________________________________ From: Charles Hill To: mg-t@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2013, 16:00 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG I never got that far. I didn't want to take a chance with only 4 8mm bolts holding up the engine. A work bench is much safer. Not that I am against engine stands. I've used one a lot on things such as Chevy V8s. Charles Hill On 7/14/2013 5:50 PM, Terry Sanders wrote: > I once tried to mount a XPAG on an engine stand.....found it to useless....a > work bench is much better. > Terry in Oakland ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/emmgeeteecee@yahoo.co.uk ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 15 17:39:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C38DC40567 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:39:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f48.google.com (mail-oa0-f48.google.com [209.85.219.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3FE40439 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 17:39:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id f4so46350oah.7 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:39:15 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=U9H3IyOh2FAizMm5YTfixOQBxhN4TwfViNNh5+Ynyu8=; b=mRpfnaQ7uAxFzyYx724deU+FHm3GLObFoWIEKpQgoWK1iJj9oiLDzYqyGAUALkyfRx 9ZMdDc12zgM/Kxz2RgZhe8SxA6MpzipS6wbFOZS53YrdH0mm/9QT6uwCs9QelXX/w2vB BxgiWqHnDcvH4O+4Yy3oqzIKURjiS3zJBM6MwzcoWXe6IRvifbEiiOlq0Fm5IvcZxpDI 6yM1+kW14mTcSuajBBXCAPmo6cOukLP7STE3bMl6JWz9pbIByl1fbI1di0IDYlswup7P uR5H5iVB8kHyexpjO9M/q8T2dCpx6DZ+RMJtEYSFntsBolRbxKk6lTRR7TQLy6Su6QEV IoiA== Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:39:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id rs1sm70423123obb.12.2013.07.15.16.39.13 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 15 Jul 2013 16:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 18:39:12 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: emmgeeteecee@yahoo.co.uk, chillmog@sbcglobal.net, mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net You make my point. The XPAG is so small, it should be no problem. B I too am used to working on bigger engines; most recently a 5-liter Testarossa V12 (180 degree boxer)! -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. -------- Original message -------- From: David Lodge Date: 07/15/2013 6:26 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Charles Hill ,mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG Know what you mean, Charles.B Got a Porsche engine hanging on an engine stand at the mo.B Very exciting! Regards, D ________________________________ From: Charles Hill To: mg-t@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2013, 16:00 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG I never got that far.B I didn't want to take a chance with only 4 8mm bolts holding up the engine.B A work bench is much safer.B Not that I am against engine stands.B I've used one a lot on things such as Chevy V8s. Charles Hill On 7/14/2013 5:50 PM, Terry Sanders wrote: > I once tried to mount a XPAGB on an engine stand.....found it to useless....a > work bench is much better. > Terry in Oakland ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/emmgeeteecee@yahoo.co.uk ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 16 00:18:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6E54056A for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 00:18:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm3.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm24-vm3.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B6B9040522 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 00:18:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.238] by nm24.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jul 2013 06:18:45 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.126] by tm19.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jul 2013 06:18:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1035.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jul 2013 06:18:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 87078 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Jul 2013 06:18:45 -0000 s=s1024; t=1373955525; bh=AbfdFTsZSi15mdwNs70LE43sCtIa2rvJlYmExeIZFHs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PzH6rXTyelqbToKNDJwQPVbYxKz3cvcMM0ipsNfYJfJNuCeFNaDEdABUonoUuagLIJYgeWBj0COsjblq3QWjCaVEPDWnTfOqdpmACh9+hPYcdXd/r8P377PVgH6bnaK2TdD91Trb8+fhdev1MoDvng6+xNmnIslDJ8waVtoNG6g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zJml1zLk6EFWI/r2xTFhGHD3QAIFpjdUNd82Y07rTO4ZprMZ23Mxv7YhJhFyteBC4DfyhdP7rFYVB3WSK53lBh2KejcxzT8fUfFU2EgfJuY/pYNRCHM20mNvRxaCiL4v82TtiHuE758/fQABVxE8GLT8ICXxubG+uH2YiVfvcA8= ; p0QeEfrJPgFCkJWQK8_JjyTTQU.HS1GyjUmiE9_YaOc_WHGpgKN5MG.UTK_q FKR4HaiWT25i5TsCo6LI5JyUghS9ZWGEI6q6YquJlqD5FixWL3zQJu.RLh6u x0NsqGYt.t6njw_pvcnm.Zbc9ar36KHTPWMyi30U2fAz8jvRDbpCaR6cR9jf KGw25vArpxJ3urGzGmYTljVqXM4FtspaEESiRP92G5Vmxp3tWX6VxzLCCSCN nc_p7iAJg5jHHqv3QFn8oeh7Zt9naXEtL_YgvkGQDYyxH4nMCzKfw6DepCfO mvuJDWY3t1_BGioAArPmLxcallxFI_kaGkrbm0doEO6MGIITi26_UbQXJPaj _NmJROlp.QWU7F4pBg4BDD_AdEmImIsLIwsRSRWeQ8fUDZ2y1HmEsr5mCSe2 A1ZknIFZp83DF5DEynhpJG4_yX4vMeUUODD6FV5Sabj2pWiVupQbShflyKsv LppJCLvd6cOgtMAUNwRP4ZCHC3zWm7mpgl5eGobYR.DSQ99yh3A-- Received: from [96.49.208.191] by web171804.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:18:45 BST VGhpbmcgaXMsIFJpY2ssIHRob3NlIGNhc3QtaXJvbiBzdHVkIGJvc3NlcyBvbiB0aGUgWFBBRyBmbHl3aGVlbCBob3VzaW5nIGFyZSwgd2hhdCwgMy84IiB0aGljaywgaW4gaGlnaGx5IHF1ZXN0aW9uYWJsZSBxdWFsaXR5IG1hdGVyaWFsPyDCoEp1c3Qgc2F5aW5nLgoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCiBGcm9tOiBSaWNrIExpbmRzYXkgPHJpY2hhcmRvbGluZHNheUBnbWFpbC5jb20.ClRvOiBlbW1nZWV0ZWVjZWVAeWFob28uY28udWs7IGNoaWxsbW9nQHNiY2dsb2JhbC5uZXQ7IG0BMAEBAQE- References: Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:18:45 +0100 (BST) From: David Lodge To: Rick Lindsay , "chillmog@sbcglobal.net" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thing is, Rick, those cast-iron stud bosses on the XPAG flywheel housing are, what, 3/8" thick, in highly questionable quality material? Just saying. ________________________________ From: Rick Lindsay To: emmgeeteecee@yahoo.co.uk; chillmog@sbcglobal.net; mg-t@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, 15 July 2013, 16:39 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG You make my point. The XPAG is so small, it should be no problem. I too am used to working on bigger engines; most recently a 5-liter Testarossa V12 (180 degree boxer)! -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. -------- Original message -------- From: David Lodge Date: 07/15/2013 6:26 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Charles Hill ,mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG Know what you mean, Charles. Got a Porsche engine hanging on an engine stand at the mo. Very exciting! Regards, D ________________________________ From: Charles Hill To: mg-t@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, 14 July 2013, 16:00 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Engine stand + XPAG I never got that far. I didn't want to take a chance with only 4 8mm bolts holding up the engine. A work bench is much safer. Not that I am against engine stands. I've used one a lot on things such as Chevy V8s. Charles Hill On 7/14/2013 5:50 PM, Terry Sanders wrote: > I once tried to mount a XPAG on an engine stand.....found it to useless....a > work bench is much better. > Terry in Oakland ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/emmgeeteecee@yahoo.co.uk ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/richardolindsay@gmail.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 16 07:15:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA3A042707 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:15:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCFC403EE for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 07:15:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 10nH1m0050FhH24A31Fcal; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:15:36 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2601:5:1dc0:15:b151:c756:16e4:21b8] ([IPv6:2601:5:1dc0:15:b151:c756:16e4:21b8]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 11Fb1m00B0iyNrU8U1FcBo; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:15:36 +0000 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 06:15:32 -0700 From: Glenn Schnittke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: mg-t@autox.team.net References: s=q20121106; t=1373980536; bh=oc4lmvdMyCl4ldJXKKjVBjtHxGNRGTsT/kBdM8D1uKk=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=egTrm3JJOcOfO8SG/s0W3vXlpfHqWz3ctsES/ve0nHbJsmPZ6tO8yiNoATwjFFoDs AC46AI5sIxlKvfYKhEm/c20umxDeR4eCESdLCfcJno3/PL+XLm50B0FzLPrtlAkRJH EAA5dirSdQzUhNzR0uaLDPJPc8jh+X62jjpHOu9z5ZPoeVRwW1V3a+j/Htcjq+O3ic u6pnpggxswYugKZc6lHMuMORtjkKGwLZ5j2yA1plvxNcwGQEeMo7OUBnRVkmZNB9u8 Ny65u03MnfRMl++21yvS5DV+kj/jKAN1rc8qobUq7Dv83VABvPOg7xayoDM4IBtFk6 URzPquexLSPBA== Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Mg-t Digest, Vol 7, Issue 103 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Fully loaded, just half cocked, g On 7/15/2013 11:00 AM, mg-t-request@autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 21:38:50 -0600 > From: Mark J Bradakis > To:mg-t@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Mg-t Digest, Vol 7, Issue 102 > Message-ID:<51E36ECA.8060401@bradakis.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Glenn Schnittke wrote: >> > >> > >> >It's not a heavy block. At half my age I could lift it loaded. Hmm. >> >Maybe I shouldn't have said it that way. >> > > So at your age now you only get half loaded? > > mjb. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 16 12:13:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695BD4271A for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:13:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f174.google.com (mail-ve0-f174.google.com [209.85.128.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601F34054B; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 12:12:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f174.google.com with SMTP id oz10so750385veb.19 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:12:57 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=zcic+5jPa5XPM8ct64pAgOHu1tMC0PSr/akjLCWzuI0=; b=m9hZLsao5ouxSwo7pSCalpOHScCjBOu9HMq+NTaP5lh3Fxk6wA/EzKfZk/AXlbGnmQ fBGnhf5Km7UYPhOXPULDgrHmz6hpNAhCcNwCPtMFMUWI56Cutnv3CjQD5REkVM5cKCqD 0PU8w0BSPMIY7GUPMtc/Yd/WQ72IernsFhnhdmF3IlB8w/KxHztwcruAW56DEN3Ou4cn E1tns1CIPoW3eUF9sPTYkp5rstaQq0My/tzLzCkyX0Plb5vvAu9DYXR97Qwvy0dMnCdU 4VGteOUVh7dFBokncy9VQuvXfpf/BI448RGmscCTgfAcxo62Pu6w/5sR6DQts0yW9TjK TNdQ== Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.66 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:12:57 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] TD radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, Today I took the five wheels to the shop to have the old tires removed. I'll pick the wheels up tomorrow and get them media blasted. After that, I drove on to the radiator shop to check on the progress there. Short story regarding the radiators I delivered is: The Lotus radiator needs a new high performance core (at a cost of $420)! That work has begun. The M.G. radiator got boiled out and flushed thoroughly. And even though the TD doesn't have a pressurized cooling system, the shop pressure-tested the radiator and it passed beautifully. No further work was done. I brought the radiator home and cleaned it carefully. No, I didn't try to make it look new but rather, just as clean on the outside as it is now on the inside. Here's how it looked when I got it back. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1344.JPG I then sanded and wire-brushed the metal bits in preparation for paint. But first, I cleaned the brass labels. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1347.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1348.JPG The next step was to spend an hour or so with duck-bill pliers straightening bent cooling fins. Yes, there are 'combs' for this purpose but I find it therapeutic to straighten the fins by hand. I just have to avoid that second (and third) cup(s) of coffee. :-P Given that a radiator is a heat exchanger, its important for ideal operation, that both fluids - air and coolant in this case - contact the tubing and fins optimally. That translates to flushed out tubes and straight cooling fins. Here's how the fins looked once I was done. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1349.JPG Here's the other side, also with straightened fins and with a coat of primer on everything but the fins. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1350.JPG Here's another look. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1351.JPG And finally, here's how it looks with a coat of gloss black paint. The fins now are painted too but the paint is VERY thin (because paint is essentially insulation). http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130716_122450.jpg The brass labels were masked off first so they would show with their brass finish. Even thought that's not 'correct', I like it. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1353.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1354.JPG The brass outlet for the temperature probe and the cap neck were also polished and masked but the tape had not been removed in any of these pictures. And that's it for this afternoon. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 17 09:07:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2201342747 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:07:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f173.google.com (mail-ob0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE7B840326; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:07:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id wc20so2367738obb.4 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:07:35 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=4VBMOJdCngRJJu8kBZ1JhfW16LUFQlE2HzMsgH0TcVs=; b=WXBhTsLfO9LNEMRbDHvhpK+voNzpZhzcvh/8rujb6Ehx1JSxT1Mhx8JmhKe9qMj+s1 WfwpgBAlyrDToi5DAySP96JpkiilR2j/KMLp4oVCYFL5RuJLQ27R/Ufs+MkjgAHfgnTn RhZwmQous38qqjaokiNx4FCXTNoayZnJd4m/L55/Wsa/MnPhJswEhKp+v83DgdRyebaK h1rpLp+DWDTEUQe+hY2dFiVs4vKPSVTiq5m9m/5WHfU1QgIiZhgmWnss8ehU3QenK6cv B2gxIHOySpUGezybaWDhmKFTJgdT9OAoDJXEaccxIw/BXMV+rSjIkYHxxgPb4fJrVM/D bB7g== g1mr8722590oel.41.1374073655486; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id m11sm8031987oer.4.2013.07.17.08.07.34 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:07:31 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net, mgs@autox.team.net, rui.gigante@gmail.com Subject: [Mg-t] Media blasting: wheels Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Friends,B I'm sitting at Enviro Cleaning Corp. Waiting for the owner to arrive so I can get a quote and drop off the TD wheels to be soda blasted. B Its just started to rain. All five wheels are sound but there is rust on the inside of the spare wheel where it sat deflated. B Otherwise, we just need to strip away 2 or 3 coats of chipped paint and remove the occasional surface rust spot. The owner has now arrived so I'll go get the quote... ...Okay, I'm back. B $125 to do all five wheels, stripped to bare metal. B Its rainy early this week so the shop is going to do the job once the weather changes so the wheels don't flash-rust before I get them primered. B Promised by next Monday (5 days) unless the weather allows sooner. B I'll primer and paint them as soon as I receive them, and after paint. B Tires are due to arrive today. B Pictures when I get the wheels back and after the tires are mounted. -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 18 06:25:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91F65403F2 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 06:25:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.55.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5538B403C8 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 06:25:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 32089 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jul 2013 12:25:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 18 Jul 2013 12:25:16 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=b4TWLVL/63MTCETNPyLgzfjH5a2tNYan1RnKDJLOXyk=; b=cD0qaJstCzq4bkVHvbeZ4ubS70Gyt/6DIawFSRS7ozmGWKOUK00DfcKaffe7KAoKkhspd8Ye8xeKwL5qkfrCZqBfcHwNDQx7UcGJePp36pEXkRqoh+qE5I5jCSC9jltT; Received: from [24.15.13.164] (port=35849 helo=[192.168.0.101]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UznGm-0003t8-DS for mg-t@autox.team.net; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 06:25:16 -0600 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 07:27:33 -0500 From: "\" Just Brits \" Shop" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: mg-t@autox.team.net References: {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with shop@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Starting on the head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net << On 7/17/2013 3:29 PM, Richard Lindsay wrote: Or perhaps something like this: >> That $20 one is ABSOLUTELY USELESS ! ! I tried one around 40 - 45 years ago and after 3 or 4 valve "Attempts" I actually DENTED the Trash Can from THROWING the damned POS "tool" 'that hard' ! ! ! NOW I can LMAO at the 'memory'. Tnx for that ! ! ! << The C-clamp kind is expensive, but more likely to fill the bill; >> WORTH EVERY PENNY ! ! ! I have actually WORN TWO [2] OUT ! ! ! Mine (all 3] have come from my Snap-On Dealer. He WILL 'come to your house' as long as you have an OPEN Revolving Charge Account, BUY enough on an ON-GOING basis ! ! And before anyone asks/infers; NOT the same guy/Dealer for all that time ! ! LOL ! ! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 18 06:38:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398EF403E2 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 06:38:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.ecu.edu (mail1.ecu.edu [150.216.17.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 919C3403D5 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 06:38:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown (HELO Hub3.intra.ecu.edu) ([150.216.17.190]) by ironport1.ecu.edu with ESMTP; 18 Jul 2013 08:38:27 -0400 Received: from MOE.intra.ecu.edu ([169.254.3.202]) by Hub3.intra.ecu.edu ([150.216.17.190]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 08:38:26 -0400 From: "Gable, Gerry" To: "\" Just Brits \" Shop" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Mg-t] Starting on the head Thread-Index: AQHOgyx+1pOzIa2Sgk2lRnPT95hWD5lqoRCA//+9NvA= Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 12:38:25 +0000 References: <51E7DF35.20707@justbrits.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [150.216.17.74] Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Starting on the head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Good day all, When I rebuilt my TD I had a mechanic friend that had the necessary tools and borrowed his. Without such a friend is that something Advance or AutoZone would lend or rent out? Thanks Gerry -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of " Just Brits " Shop Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 8:28 AM To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Starting on the head << On 7/17/2013 3:29 PM, Richard Lindsay wrote: Or perhaps something like this: >> That $20 one is ABSOLUTELY USELESS ! ! I tried one around 40 - 45 years ago and after 3 or 4 valve "Attempts" I actually DENTED the Trash Can from THROWING the damned POS "tool" 'that hard' ! ! ! NOW I can LMAO at the 'memory'. Tnx for that ! ! ! << The C-clamp kind is expensive, but more likely to fill the bill; >> WORTH EVERY PENNY ! ! ! I have actually WORN TWO [2] OUT ! ! ! Mine (all 3] have come from my Snap-On Dealer. He WILL 'come to your house' as long as you have an OPEN Revolving Charge Account, BUY enough on an ON-GOING basis ! ! And before anyone asks/infers; NOT the same guy/Dealer for all that time ! ! LOL ! ! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 18 06:48:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D550B40422 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 06:48:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.55.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DD547403D5 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 06:44:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 4252 invoked by uid 0); 18 Jul 2013 12:44:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 18 Jul 2013 12:44:18 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=3gFM1CGAdaz4Tbp+SBn+a9H5tKqKyc9w6c/pJASmAck=; b=Bs4EkGDBiQ03hW6ZENGPszyH4pVATKdxdWmhjt/nRUYbOe1KVhLW7LbT/AR1N/j/c6Yo//8YYxKC/21NbuDovnIZsrLmGTXClQrGYKCOr0SLk84NfH8tzgS/7mBnfW3D; Received: from [24.15.13.164] (port=36189 helo=[192.168.0.101]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UznZC-0003Jf-Lp for mg-t@autox.team.net; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 06:44:18 -0600 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 07:46:39 -0500 From: "\" Just Brits \" Shop" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: "mg-t@autox.team.net" References: <51E7DF35.20707@justbrits.com> {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with shop@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Starting on the head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Gerry, $5.00 says Rick is NOT a "borrower" buy a "Buyer of NEW Tools" ! ? Ah, let's make it $ 10.00 so it's worthwhile ! ! Ed ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 18 06:58:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F34A4053C for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 06:58:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f50.google.com (mail-oa0-f50.google.com [209.85.219.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F022040355 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 06:58:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id k7so4131304oag.9 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 05:58:16 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=/NWVU6e0Lquer+pJtEJPhpUWXG89olvjqyShjfAnanE=; b=rKmu1pG1CevhsnnHsUPmn6h8pcA9jTU2nMEDeZ1DmnV9VOImZeIk3Xu38GmJO2woIU wg43SSV4KgTCqqcHY4yxGabq9pc3u7jmYl4nQGu4h/Do8f1akvkyufpj2JFqJ9l5q+ai dANQZoiEuNKCg+5ohxv1y2knljt4legWFRE0qVCDpLGYyRkerx9bw7n9vuNESY1t25Ee +iM/tnTzs3qG15Af1NGolJNng0Ft+wxlbx7i3um8NfxlgtvcZqQ/VMMYu6BCR+Q3kgrs Ng/pJXIgMqQw0oo88sl2Ie19mFt0VrmjLlPDOGXvOeSt42PsYgMX7xaUdHJlKs5UrmuW rDhQ== du9mr7420752obc.106.1374152296574; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 05:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ps5sm14804363oeb.8.2013.07.18.05.58.14 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 05:58:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 07:58:11 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: emmgeeteecee@yahoo.co.uk, mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Starting on the head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi David, et al., > Great stuff, Richard and thanks!B Thank you, and good afternoon. B I'm just sharing my fun, not preaching or instructing. B I'll leave that to the experts. B I do appreciate that you enjoy following along. > Shames me into putting in more garage time! B LOL. B I've read those words from more than a few list members! > Incidentally, your pics show up regularly, but does anyone elseB > have a problem with this new Yahoo stripping out photos? B I got the new Yahoo! mail tool too, for another account I use there, but I use gmail through Chrome for most everything else - including the M.G. Lists. Let me be more precise; I post links to pictures, not the puctures themselves. B Are you saying that the new Yahoo! mail tool strips the links out? B If so? Perhaps its B just an overly vigilant security setting? > What do I do about it? Hummm... B I switched to gmail when my I tired of my inbox AND junk mail folders being flooded with Spam. I also use a Samsung Galaxy Tab2 tablet and this Galaxy SIII phone. B The mail tool on those devices offers no option to send simple ASCII text, only formatted rich text. B That's a problem for some of the old list servers like the E-Type List. B It accepts only simple text and no attachments, as a means of preventing virus propagation. B To use that list, I have to send simple text from a web-based gmail session, not this tool on the device. We sometimes out-smart ourselves. -Rant mode on I'm a scientist and I use computers to do math. B That is increasingly difficult as the new operating systems are turning our machines into toys for enterainment.B -Rant mode off Hope to buy the tool and get the valves out of the TD's head today. B Fun! Best regards, -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 18 07:03:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5474051D for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 07:03:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f174.google.com (mail-ob0-f174.google.com [209.85.214.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4079940355 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 07:02:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f174.google.com with SMTP id wd20so3693787obb.33 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 06:02:42 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=ePwTKzwEw6CXPkMmFWebIl/alnLZwu+267sHGH5Eja0=; b=bB7h60/Hkll8WTQXxfAicrXbPqKpB4dFrgBVKNb0c2k4GjP97hyS23ZbeJeDYWAvhG Hd2y8L/YxWhe8EAWGbvXTN9l4/H9mI4VmpUL1AdzlUTq/6+9ltt7jreRAA4L1e/rUzBt O/MthijTWSB5sFPR+uFJA7FT/JT8qi8vh+fVVMAouaFXxKeWyDOHZsn+eQYQdCQRSw7K EpkK5TeoJvzbVEuydL3dv0/S47HChhZPwpXO8iMTQ6q9VAhJYONpGWYKizTH/Z9v01UJ N0wKt4nhlHb7D3lUTZ2KHrDrY5u1XlR3UkY8DhAQrfP2c2yrqOj1hd09paY3pFF33xOL B/sQ== u7mr7500050obd.100.1374152562279; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 06:02:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ps5sm14804363oeb.8.2013.07.18.06.02.41 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 18 Jul 2013 06:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 08:02:39 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: shop@justbrits.com, mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Starting on the head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net LOL. B I would borrow if I felt that this was the last engine I would rebuild. B But such is not the case. B I have a Volvo 1800ES purchase waiting in the wings... :-o -rick - who likes tools Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. -------- Original message -------- From: "" Just Brits " Shop" Date: 07/18/2013 7:46 AM (GMT-06:00) To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Starting on the head Gerry, $5.00 says Rick is NOT a "borrower" buy a "Buyer of NEW Tools" ! ? Ah, let's make it $ 10.00 so it's worthwhile ! ! Ed ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 18 10:17:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 720E042707 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:17:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f51.google.com (mail-vb0-f51.google.com [209.85.212.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983A34052E for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 08:58:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id x17so2424050vbf.38 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 07:58:51 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=cw60ucIYBfrDq+kdDFZTJoYU/rwofEQozDW0ASeevhI=; b=SlolmtQ1+pF5eldMLRwXyP+M9LQBrGI2srm3GWAUNv49Xfpxot3WUmBEABnXRR+Yoi etYwNpcIWSmUmd/8DU1QiErfLUiEbkwYwGA8q4pnSgZPy1/pZMzh5vi6Ch/OFSmDJiJt E3Ruae3W47R/nB7uy3vA0/LzU2RRCOwEqYoibBgRYzaR8fs2p/e2ubvKK5iKMWJJEMaN mpUCjrKKcg45oGwJlwTmvfWdfc8iGlgEbhVWhWeBkOVTCbgKc+oCLsQoadjTDp+Nguv8 B/DdmN/WXXUcegURRnVzA9Z39GQtKV4Cv1C+h5ZNHdbuNt8LkIG9xFRriaX/Q6D74qhB Dd6w== ty10mr4111005vcb.42.1374159531084; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 07:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.66 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 07:58:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 09:58:51 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Glaze Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, Fingers feeling the bores reveal that if the taper and ovality measurements are within spec, I'll only need to break the glaze on the cylinder walls with a simple hone, and all will be well. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1368.JPG -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 18 15:20:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89FF40416 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:20:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A62340042; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:20:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9EE2A1417; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:20:20 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:20:20 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , mg-t@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Mess, run out of space Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Messy garages? 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net About three hundred years ago I bought a pair of engine mounts for the TC. I promptly put them in a ziplock bag and forgot about them. Now I've rediscovered them and I find that one is made of hard rubber, the other soft. Which is correct and does anyone out there sell single ones? (I tend to think that the soft rubber is correct, vibration transmission and all that). Regards, Lodge, TC 1704, taking a break from welding upside down in pleasantly sunny Vancouver. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 18 15:52:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF68B4054D for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:52:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f180.google.com (mail-vc0-f180.google.com [209.85.220.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F076400A4 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 15:52:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id gf12so1613026vcb.39 for ; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:52:53 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=736Wpge1eftqEisOENt29Zeo/T/csGuDFpoG9O3+ogM=; b=ScStWalZFuW1eVUVp+idTvwag6myBbSJ0bl+ql05h0/Kyr0PTjIJnQl6tVsTIsziF0 aSKfyzfQo3Y9i5jaViwQpAA9FZsfQj5g8zTMD1afotrOSE+Mzl4gJJGuqVADUzv2PIIW 2tl9y5J7psYLfg91mcDE1AynDolU0h2JvBBRh0cJCwaqW4h33i+8jZk4GqE58t6z/yZO Fhr7evpepAQsAJBHhH0im/LvcbHVTCtOACcIYpM7cWNNOTN9NxSn5cK5IC5bwMBs4C3E NH0i7lmL2xQJaBEgRvhQxgwy55iwLiHBKIO0uMFJvFFboWTS6MM3sujSQxsx77HTwURc dFKg== ay3mr4671888ved.78.1374184373777; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:52:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.66 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Jul 2013 14:52:53 -0700 (PDT) References: <1374184200.97185.YahooMailNeo@web171801.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:52:53 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: David Lodge Cc: MG-TABC , "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mg-t] TC engine mounts. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Does the TC used the same mounts as the TD? I may have a spare set... -rick On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 4:50 PM, David Lodge wrote: > About three hundred years ago I bought a pair of engine mounts for the TC. I > promptly put them in a ziplock bag and forgot about them. Now I've > rediscovered them and I find that one is made of hard rubber, the other soft. > Which is correct and does anyone out there sell single ones? (I tend to think > that the soft rubber is correct, vibration transmission and all that). > Regards, Lodge, TC 1704, taking a break from welding upside down in pleasantly > sunny Vancouver. > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/richardolindsay@gmail.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 19 14:43:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840A840E20 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:43:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f170.google.com (mail-ve0-f170.google.com [209.85.128.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75FDC40C01; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 14:43:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f170.google.com with SMTP id 14so3714176vea.1 for ; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:43:04 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=X4m1Zf8+IKGkikdcCLThaa7RhoVn8QtlGyxaLIWW2Cc=; b=cxBcflbziAJg8QlcJVwFlPt6a/ALj/lWEIiuIYUhZFDJQ+4be8ci0QBTZMzqYw13/M gssw/1CSEoxoO456NnCOQV7HYJBSgQr5tSaPIOeKPfitWcNk97Icfpp3/WtgYPQq07yC O6tP5Jpmb4mrbW8rKC5CBkqAU2tflM6QWWrhIIKXp7TJ4qvIrMJAw9R+r2l/gMFjNiQR g9Z+VBDWG8H4zsplRZR2nRnoLRbNAfU/hnVYn66rODjdCIYp0yATui644lOt37j22qQD lBgP2bC07bTJ4PnacLmb9AEnrjn+8E81xHpKHm1WZ1KI/3FZhCu201zYujkvgus0UyZe hzGA== jq9mr6323553vec.53.1374266584141; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.66 with HTTP; Fri, 19 Jul 2013 13:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 15:43:04 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] TD bore measurements Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, Today I spent a little time doing the kind of work I really like; diagnosis. Here's what the workshop manual says about the XPAG cylinders: Bore: 2.6180" 1st over-bore: 2.6381" Here are the measurements, made just a few minutes ago on my TD's cylinder #1. Note: The precision of my instrument is about 0.0003" and although I repeated the measurements a few times, these are the numbers I recorded. #1 Bore inline (top): 2.6390" #1 Bore inline (bottom): 2.6380" #1 Bore cross (top): 2.6388" #1 Bore cross (bottom): 2.6381" Ovality (top): 0.0002" Ovality (bottom): 0.0001" Taper (inline): 0.0010" Taper (cross): 0.0007" Initial interpretation: This engine is on its first over-bore and acceptably healthy, at least the #1 cylinder's bore. More measurements and more 'careful' measurements will be made once the the block is cleaned. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 20 17:36:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4747440514 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 17:36:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f47.google.com (mail-oa0-f47.google.com [209.85.219.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C43403F5; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 17:36:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id m1so7530288oag.6 for ; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 16:36:22 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=j6muGOc0x+JluzJ2C2zcAMhW2ozkGSr/+jjWlfnv4hc=; b=xIEhW5qGJ5E78rQHDZbmVu9pXKiwG1vdKdwdbLbBAW45oOs01qAQJbQ329P26QIQNo PoRhIH2LZZEtyrrvK07HNgSpOhi0mrL+E76okcyPBuIuEOKMgZiXy0Aj0CTSOsHX7Fi2 SvGNfbtpEsNv+pd6/MdyM5+qpF3TIolEtZR3SzyCODCY72Cn+ah9HQ9onjv4002yz4Yu rdVxFWNYDWleAzTAxnNVmSD5DmUC2AaP9kUeEt5EY3uqmnQpctrW8myqjwZq+LCIMBdB nwouT7j/hu4lWOPyCgCSv53PACSjXPeEysI3c5J0bBCQtmwyW0uyGHbhBXDTxVwLfFtX jffA== e8mr13194554oej.34.1374363382414; Sat, 20 Jul 2013 16:36:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id tu4sm20310975obb.5.2013.07.20.16.36.21 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 20 Jul 2013 16:36:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 18:36:18 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, rui.gigante@gmail.com Subject: [Mg-t] Valve spring compressor arrived Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, Valve spring compressor arrived today. B Its bigger than I expected but in retrospect, it needs to be that big. B See picture with pen included for scale. http://aubard.us/MGTD/SC_1.jpg -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 22 09:38:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD4D40E1B for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 09:38:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f177.google.com (mail-ve0-f177.google.com [209.85.128.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F55140323; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 09:38:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f177.google.com with SMTP id cz10so5173710veb.36 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 08:38:33 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Q9hsDh40kpXxtNSxxnL0xushS6vkzHloC592L3yHwls=; b=aDctUhHFqEu8bka93gyz/1ar57bAX896qYM5moqPjNMjmngM0Y3OhnbqNI5/mSLABA xEDJ12BAq1pwpDnSVwlj83D2NU461cTEUVT3f4lsxUFzWSGhZll94bZaL1dhm+0CJ/AB vM9r3VKw4lyQRJ1TUb28tBRvgQMo9ELOr5OIcTzwQ0oIMmPUxou0Vo2uSJQ1CRfhaXoa fXqo+SEXO1ntUdxK5lVvGohjMh5jE9eaqy/6QRiDzdeHEmhHSzvmrcHu3paI7MOIVz16 G7K56H+jrK3RPqb/erpjYZ0lBhuVm/wVZSeUBpKFk163GFdHmzGMJ4dZ2H7toVOyLDgv WhSw== p16mr9479173vce.88.1374507513135; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 08:38:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.66 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 08:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 10:38:32 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Winny The Poo is out of the Honey Tree Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, The new valve compressor works great but even it needs to have the valve springs given a good whack first! Now the Honey Tree news: #2 valve, the one actuated by the broken pushrod, was stuck firmly in the guide. I had soaked it nicely with penetrating oil, then the valve came out - with some tapping. The valve stem and inside the guide, were coated in gum and carbon. It seems that the valve just wasn't getting lubricated OR the valve stem is bent OR there was so much slop in the guide that exhaust blew into the gap. Diagnosis to follow. Here's how the head looks now. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1372.JPG I'll get it into a thorough clean up shortly but first, I'll degrease the springs and associated bits, and clean up the valves on the wire wheel. Right now, they live in numbered ZipLoc freezer bags. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1373.JPG Once everything is clean I will insert each valve and measure the guide wear. I didn't get a picture today, but the valves and valve seats look healthy. I'll next lap the valves onto the seats and make further assessments. I called the media-blast guy this morning. We expect more rain today so we're delaying the soda blasting until tomorrow when its dry. That way we avoid flash-rust from the high humidity. I'll paint the wheels Tuesday and get the tires mounted Wednesday. Happy Monday, -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 22 15:45:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 483FF403FB for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 15:45:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f169.google.com (mail-ve0-f169.google.com [209.85.128.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C23BD40075; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 15:45:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f169.google.com with SMTP id m1so5577125ves.0 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 14:45:05 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=uR1YR3DLkR/1VdE8DfIYRl/Y0Vxuk4WHfuStTfFCRp0=; b=ECM+Jr1cPul4M7yDJW5/vflEYVHYEdD3aXQH/C0kPvzhkLa7zai4FfxTDCsfsBIaxo WuJ5AKAiedXmGOpYS/hSBkiBQfgEywVqO01R3e8arET5rrq/wyf4mSqdvfMonTmjP/Bk raBtIDgNzordgGPMfIKBfPX/Jl2iuIvGXsC9c2ERcdjqKSIXQQwJQIvRqadhyrenNayu ykeB//95DDuFRV34GrWdor16nJs03iNbi9cO7vDc8NMqsplIrt0nKloMNO9LP4JKLvh6 u27VLYS36IdE/tSg7ULloYyackdpWfv1rzCM8o1yIZNDCUJCpZ1/5qh1ID5uYfrQu0fH EDew== yu12mr8309425vdb.40.1374529505509; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 14:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.66 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 14:45:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 16:45:05 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Springs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Friends, Found a little time this morning and got the TD's valves removed. I think I told you that earlier. I have since cleaned the valves and they are beautiful - even the one that was stuck in its guide. I have not yet taken any pictures of the valves. What I did photograph is a line up of the bigger valve springs. I have not yet measured their compression strength, but at first glance, I note that their static lengths are excellent. Here's how they look in as-installed order. Number 1 on the right. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130722_145541.jpg I'm cooled off a bit and re-hydrated now (garage temperature is nearly 100F), so I'm heading back to the garage to continue the work. regards, -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 22 18:52:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3074054C for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 18:52:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f181.google.com (mail-ve0-f181.google.com [209.85.128.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4FEC40413; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 18:51:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f181.google.com with SMTP id db10so5473034veb.40 for ; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:51:54 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=7Qe8yeBvWdPhgmM35cTyzAW9XepmC2umMDegEumw43Y=; b=BDBoL72T/R3HRTWa/EA4RVl3jSebVzeWLqBF6tQU2S+rUCsfOqFhrhFfcU38O26+RL 893MrJ7kjbHuI5NXEliHJKMy73r1wNMMM02JAdSlGaCkPf+q1dMxsvGM8OXuG0KDZzbI ohhh/iBdo3dOKIipm39yszAWXksn65aPZPxD94O3YOdhxYMqalv83sRUFLnxIIFh4t/u xAU8JhT5/ZyjjWfEW8nnNZPRPTjQytNZdPmOvHc62r7iRVjst5E4iotYdXDH1sVPXBfA qCW0vsWPGHD7/yvQCz5GgGZ2vsLe8n7atLdDAi0tIgTdI5DE5oVcFljI74jmmalzqfTv ekEg== yj5mr8575184vdb.104.1374540714519; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.66 with HTTP; Mon, 22 Jul 2013 17:51:54 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2013 19:51:54 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Inner TD springs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Friends, Gene, et al., asked about the inner springs. I'll post more tomorrow but for now, here's a look at the inner springs. They also look just fine. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130722_171855.jpg So far, I have cleaned the valves and both sets of springs. I'll get the rest of the bits done in the morning. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 23 12:14:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01A6D40447 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 12:14:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f51.google.com (mail-oa0-f51.google.com [209.85.219.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FF1B40359 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 12:14:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id i4so12068413oah.10 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:14:41 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=0iUcewxZuqLFIy6s0DyeXoncPFA0xQYjC/enXhquBE8=; b=Zuprwhj4jjNEvxY9Phy+VSbVgKXudeDuOymIcg8knYMUx0SV/3IxdlI9cy8IBxKeXG k9S7n7HTDcoFw+Bv2a5G6b4TwHcOIn9Y8yxslv+hDy6KowMFkueDMtwunox7/x8ARZTX AHwtOVUdh+J0VCDmZ2eqG3DFx/JzwQeolVjT6qO0r+SYCKQwdH/Vu/dWo0ridq+uh8e7 Agz5SATynMN7UtD+IDShXhcYNJ19meFrowXFN15mlLJNtHe94yNzxXeMLi8ULnFcDwYD 57LjbWv717giR6qnPiUr8WD5+jChMx6dEvezsbM1E3N7EoLvkah/UI8O05iewcxjXa8Y 5uSQ== id2mr26074519obb.95.1374603281686; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fk3sm41791811obb.2.2013.07.23.11.14.40 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 13:14:39 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Valve advice please Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends,B If you've followed along with my '53 TD restoration, you know that valve #2 (inlet) stuck in its guide, causing the push rod to bend then break. I drifted the valve out without too much force and the guide did not move. B The 'glue' that stuck the valve was burned oil / carbon. Both valve and guide cleaned up perfectly. Upon removal of the valves I discovered that although they did have the 'neoprene sealing rings', they did NOT have 'oil shields'; using the terms from the workshop manual. B To my mind, this means that without oil seals installed, excess oil may have migrated down the stem-to-guide gaps. B And in the case of #2, burned enough to stick the valve. Your thoughts? B In your rebuilds, did you install 'oil shields'? B I haven't cracked open my gasket set so I don't know if they are included... Thanks again, in advance, for your invaluable advice. -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 23 12:22:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA5F40408 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 12:22:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f42.google.com (mail-oa0-f42.google.com [209.85.219.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F70D4009A for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 12:22:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id j6so12123051oag.1 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:22:12 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=VIKmJvx9kxnffGn3PWsoF26AQh5/HeqTmbpTmPhw0bI=; b=EpoJzAXCx8EDErBMYmdEsLpufyl9XdCh5NGtBb3B8OLELX56HiUnLFjzeDfPtFoB8w 57EH6T417fPseyMsYPVRXDfJuOR/KUQDVIY7XRu/byHplLu1ZReAVJVtJBLUB891l8j2 79fLthWn6iC2i4HXoiWB1RrPz9GtJSA7cfjFsdyje6ybDfdqMn1i+tu9ug765d5qJ4tQ XUxcqizhrQXN8Xm9u6i+loUqllv7v0/5grj/xYWFWiaarsweOiNghq+MFYQnI+IBZEB8 ggSpghYFfrRCIUnAKjqS4TKEHekKyvm+ecnBQTbG3Fk5de6TyEtnzyfFowPW2hew08oa i5dQ== q7mr26390774obi.77.1374603732335; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fk3sm41791811obb.2.2013.07.23.11.22.10 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 13:22:10 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Wait! My bad! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net My valves DO have the oil shields. B I was thinking that they were rubber, not the steel (?) inserts in the tops of the inner springs. Sorry, -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 24 04:42:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B20B403E2 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 04:42:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f51.google.com (mail-oa0-f51.google.com [209.85.219.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D9D4032A for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 04:42:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id i4so546849oah.10 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 03:42:22 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=Fzlb1c8cBiQjGcXYAEE6uDQVkAYgShgj0gYBwkAHWhw=; b=0YiVZ3VzmZ42LNCXE8l/Dsw26FOsCtWCeiazTzhRa/NhkVArTA/xMN7mFMpE+XtAGp gn7vE4YmSlYnlMhnbKKzARF0rUsp/mlSWLqPOQjs4YFUj5OjGb2JNgNSIeTDaQG/Flc5 V36W7Y8UomJjdFpbeLLenx7kfc5ifrLQbiJe2GkXwy+OCEIYFenTz8O75zdRhmcUUcr+ fup70hbbU9RcLQgD63qy5RngvjcFPC/no+jJ9yQL8YIGtuhqMJ48Zb7t7ePQ6zefvDaJ hSizQ5P6T2xOtfLlP3SKbcDoEnBDY9jEjRf5yUrI94dpk5pcwL/sIfKuXQyDl8EJHwQo ozzg== wg7mr29701458obc.50.1374662541937; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 03:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id et8sm44237987obb.6.2013.07.24.03.42.20 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Jul 2013 03:42:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 05:42:09 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Valve stem pre-lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Morning Friends, Once again, I ask for (and appreciate) your sage advice. Upon final assembly of valves in their guides, I have historically used assembly-lube and have never had a problem. B However, the TD workshop manual for the XPAG recommends using clean motor oil. B Is that because oil is better than assembly-lube in this application, or because the manual pre-dates the common used of assembly-lube? Your opinions are appreciated.B -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 24 07:34:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE93C403E8 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:34:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f173.google.com (mail-ve0-f173.google.com [209.85.128.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45621403DB for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 07:34:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f173.google.com with SMTP id jw11so6947873veb.32 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 06:34:30 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=e1rIuStfIQFTKByejXqBsULU/oI0P/Y99bPhq9uxMkE=; b=vAJCLUkWNPieCNnJ0l98w0bZpQnen700WhbC2YjYQf3WoDRjdvgg363ZLgNPnyHrOr 4oyifLQSkbiTedGPHAvukVMUc0R3uP1C4sXbu7jd+xWr4tLs4fiMxhBdFjxhTY6iTNbt vm2SfHMw0airF7XSLXL3cGrdN2j+NYgnvsF3qpMx36snfDf/K3ykEuQa0f0zvYlf/D2i iXf3kFGnLdrdiCZyenTfc0QJlBa5UIOzZihaGjAUpCA952Ie8aU5+40pRpcBPS5zn82y DMAtSPGjm0w51lmz4TPUfMBnDhjZhH/Us69x04yj0klX4kR6I2iKW3NxHqHL41ga4oC4 2Jew== f17mr12240423vdu.48.1374672870159; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 06:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.66 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 06:34:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 08:34:30 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Oil shields on XPAG valves Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, While the primer is curing on my TD's wheels, I went back to the engine. This morning I cleaned the oil shields (can't remember what the manual calls them) and took a picture to illustrate the differences in them. Here it is. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1376.JPG My question is: Are these a mixture of parts that some previous rebuilder pulled from his M.G. parts bin, or did M.G. mix up parts from this '53 XPAG with parts for the new 1500cc engine, being built the same year? I know Jaguar used new style parts on previous generation motors as that line finished, and visa versa. Some new engines got the left-overs from the previous runs - all when on the cusp of a change. The more important question is: Should I reuse these parts or buy a few replacements? Or buy a whole new set? The budget is already strained... Thanks, as always, -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 24 09:11:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1648240414 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 09:11:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from dub0-omc1-s32.dub0.hotmail.com (dub0-omc1-s32.dub0.hotmail.com [157.55.0.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40021400AD for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 09:11:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DUB123-DS21 ([157.55.0.237]) by dub0-omc1-s32.dub0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 24 Jul 2013 08:11:10 -0700 From: Ulla & Sven Ordell To: "'Richard Lindsay'" , References: Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 17:11:10 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac6IcoidsUptX2riSjqJ4WPiaIkiUgADTQGQ Content-Language: sv FILETIME=[076A6E10:01CE8880] Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Oil shields on XPAG valves Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Richard I suggest you do away with the original type oil shields and use modern top hat type shields instead. Others will surely have opinions. Happy your rebuild proceeds and good luck Sven TC in Sweden -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fren: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net] Fvr Richard Lindsay Skickat: den 24 juli 2013 15:35 Till: mg-t@autox.team.net Dmne: [Mg-t] Oil shields on XPAG valves Hello Friends, While the primer is curing on my TD's wheels, I went back to the engine. This morning I cleaned the oil shields (can't remember what the manual calls them) and took a picture to illustrate the differences in them. Here it is. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1376.JPG My question is: Are these a mixture of parts that some previous rebuilder pulled from his M.G. parts bin, or did M.G. mix up parts from this '53 XPAG with parts for the new 1500cc engine, being built the same year? I know Jaguar used new style parts on previous generation motors as that line finished, and visa versa. Some new engines got the left-overs from the previous runs - all when on the cusp of a change. The more important question is: Should I reuse these parts or buy a few replacements? Or buy a whole new set? The budget is already strained... Thanks, as always, -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/bispmotala@hotmail.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 24 10:35:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC421403E7 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:35:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8636E403D5 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:35:24 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1374683722; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=qnsDqGosdxkv3EkufcJ4ggPEUDF5f1OEuTaKjML4fQUaBxvPnJFV84GWyH6Sapsn0 LoENVdKTwt+1JQaco/LnJPvRv1c932sbVOiJPYhufpZV/5Vvsrl+AYMXTiZ6TpSioS 8GPAP9KKUxdt4cB7F6aqcus8qiquMcevO4yK5eXk= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail-beta03.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.103]) by smtpout01.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABJ9AATDA56H3HJ for (sender ); Wed, 24 Jul 2013 09:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [108.88.216.197] by webmail-beta03.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:33:51 GMT From: "mgbob@juno.com" Full-Name: "mgbob@juno.com" Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 16:33:51 GMT To: richardolindsay@gmail.com Cc: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Valve stem pre-lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Motor oil predates assembly lube, but either will work fine if engine is to be fired up shortly after assembly. If it is to be seat aside for a while, I would expect assy lube to stick to the metal better and longer. Bob ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Rick Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Valve stem pre-lube Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 05:42:09 -0500 Morning Friends, Once again, I ask for (and appreciate) your sage advice. Upon final assembly of valves in their guides, I have historically used assembly-lube and have never had a problem. B However, the TD workshop manual for the XPAG recommends using clean motor oil. B Is that because oil is better than assembly-lube in this application, or because the manual pre-dates the common used of assembly-lube? Your opinions are appreciated.B -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 24 10:39:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 887A7403F8 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:39:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f48.google.com (mail-vb0-f48.google.com [209.85.212.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D4FC403D5 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 10:39:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f48.google.com with SMTP id w15so6592631vbf.35 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 09:39:08 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2fuywu5anMEjJ/o2EuebyftAuCfu5guRWTsDPFh8BDk=; b=yxgJsHCu3q5BIkR53/9sXHXAoA1wJ4bU+tKB2VwgU1KcBcUB6SuBHvGa7cDjtVBPuo aVshM+MIFAr3upfcUcwtFH/pq8RZzOGwwunFaOkSLHjK2C8WjyOHRtuH0iDT74vYXKSs 5DfG91Ks4cNgXTe7u8QL6D8QB///ECHQ7aKdXa20SEQwBjTa0CW+NCcljeZHb4GPa8Lb KkdqSWfMnly8nNOcqDiCI6UQFKqetxxV75UbZM3tdxKmaHgcLUBgUx1tdFO5rC7Iayd8 WP99/sQlNGEmB/F/tUd/L3ZsKP99v2L3Kkq8y9oBBIOQ8Wa9X0iVosh2P2mv58NZ/eRm 56yQ== bp7mr6313937ved.67.1374683948767; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 09:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.66 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 09:39:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:39:08 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Wheels Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Friends, I painted my TD's wheels today. I used a semi-gloss, silver-gray metallic wheel paint that is darker than 'correct'. I did that because I don't like the look of the 'correct' light silver wheels with chrome hubcaps. The caps disappear on the silver. The wheels are now about the same color as the hub cap medallions. And after all, its just paint. Here's how one of the wheels looks with the first coat of paint. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130724_110751.jpg All five wheels have now been painted. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 24 14:25:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5418D403F9 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:25:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f176.google.com (mail-ve0-f176.google.com [209.85.128.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8CE403E7; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:25:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f176.google.com with SMTP id c13so7405743vea.35 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:25:26 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=mcN2saBA7AXwhNehu/o9W8AGMVD48weJwjd+9RCIEaY=; b=C7mu8XOa1AjtnEJQ15j2s4Gbjtb9F245fGswSsRYqVHjFLg+ppXScc11xTUsdoNSdb EAFahSceAt5mtlK0skHATkws0m5mb/Hx8q3BZKHa0xFBzUO8nVRU90wET0RLLxs3XCXo /6s6XAUi19/mkGCmJinlM3q7Hb5lWdVG0sbfiWqWikKx8p+zrvvMCfrNmrCZpIDGU4E9 Ui9pOKcz38UpXIAe1py3D1VRlhmIlZB6JRnQ1Gwg6CU8S/QDryRCc6Sr9eblBIPyuPI7 zWXLZW8NRRiF2G7ZonYcLpyq5KeKR/U2j9/j0bTUpWxxc3bWMvLXXKrK8YuYIIZb2AUK 4MTQ== jq9mr15764133vec.53.1374697526086; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.66 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jul 2013 13:25:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2013 15:25:25 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net, "mgs@autox.team.net List" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] TD head restoration Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, My TD's head is bare, clean and being refinished. The ports are cleaned and the valves are all lapped on to their seats. Spark plug holes have had their threads chased. Here's how it looked when masked and in primer. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130724_140221.jpg And here's how it looks now with the red paint applied (and still wet). Yes, the paint is probably too bright red, the flash makes it look even brighter, and the pictures are a bit washed out - but that's no big deal. Its clean and ready for reassembly of the valve hardware. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130724_150551.jpg Here's another look. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130724_150600.jpg I still have to order parts. First of all, I need to replace two of the oil shields. Two of them are too short - including the one at the stuck valve. I also have to order a replacement pushrod (of the correct length). And despite my careful efforts, one collet has gone astray. I'll order 2 or 3 replacements, just in case. In the mean time, I need to clean and restore the rockers. And that's it for today. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 26 11:32:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A074D4041B for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 11:32:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f46.google.com (mail-vb0-f46.google.com [209.85.212.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C77E40406; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 11:32:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f46.google.com with SMTP id w8so1415935vbf.19 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 10:32:45 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=msbTLEj1CocUAeHHSBIcM1HagDUy0grv2w9rXGUA5tQ=; b=RYMoX2AxHnrEc2pwpasF/r+FC5KphUE51PDdQ632fFHtXmZ0NX/7ozKj4rJv1QYuu0 bwei4sNr6FrpYR93uYooHG4tHvs12QEAvWg0Isetgmv5tvrDK15tgns57LjVccgNRV+I 4KYgt74ffkjckkTAOFt5r4vL9SrEwjZafDRgY3PxOWTODcq+C0G1iYsZNYB2z6AZbEuM ionKrJx05bL+IAgHjCbkYcRrWTx849QNGeq7YsBGUoX+8x0nqwXnVMYtocYK63ZSz591 INGHoNxnlFWj1SkKF93h6AGHaFJZwYw/OBJR6Y5vKCZMiejWE64h5v13qtzrqKJCysIl N1tg== mq3mr3942951vcb.20.1374859965280; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 10:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.66 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 10:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 12:32:45 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net, "mgs@autox.team.net List" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] lifter chest cover and generator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, I continue to work on the bits that I have removed from the TD's engine. I'd go ahead and pull it from the car but part of my engine stand is still attached to my friends Lotus-Ford TwinCam - and he's in Europe for another week or so. Ergo, I work on the things that are easy to take off and refurbish. Today, I stripped the paint - again, at least two layers - from the lifter box cover and vent pipe. And although I did not take a picture of the pipe and clamp, they too are refinished. Here's a look at the cover. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130726_095210.jpg In between cleaning, primering, painting and snapping pictures, I disassembled the generator. The brushes are in great shape, being 16mm or so long! Springs behind brushes feel strong too. The commutator cleaned up with a gentle wipe with ScotchBrite, showing no wear at all, and all the shafts and bushings look and feel undamaged. So after degreasing and stripping away the old flaky paint, I primered and painted these parts too. Here they are drying on my paint stand (a.k.a. garbage can covered with an old shower curtain). http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130726_120732.jpg After cleaning up the tachometer gear reducer, I decided not to paint it. I suspect that it was originally left bare metal. I'll give it a good blast of lubricant and install it, as is. Here's how it looks now. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130726_120745.jpg So, I'm back inside cooling off and drinking copious quantities of water. I expect to assemble the generator and give it a bench test, later this afternoon. I'll then put some of these reconditioned parts away safely, then call it a day. Tomorrow? Perhaps the starter. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 26 11:59:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C8240435 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 11:59:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.55.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D5B040401 for ; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 11:56:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 27139 invoked by uid 0); 26 Jul 2013 17:56:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 26 Jul 2013 17:56:08 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=4K9933arnm96ETfLhor+VW62LQDt/mDqBr8qtu3/DcY=; b=NUPMPlCX0IdEPc0YmOivuJJUD8ZuYMMAiiyBJW7Usxdo3tmCUxzEYToEiP2Xd2UWyZM03WfGzrD/Gby1xIfpfyQPWjirFuhVxyKkrmIhmUcjApJsl3IMKq3TtUFTF58r; Received: from [24.15.13.164] (port=38196 helo=[192.168.0.101]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1V2mFL-0003D7-Rw for mg-t@autox.team.net; Fri, 26 Jul 2013 11:56:07 -0600 Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 12:57:49 -0500 From: "\" Just Brits \" Shop" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: mg-t@autox.team.net References: {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with shop@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Mg-t] lifter chest cover and generator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net << On 7/26/2013 12:32 PM, Richard Lindsay wrote: I'll give it a good blast of lubricant and install it, as is. >> Graphite please (ONLY). << Here's how it looks now. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130726_120745.jpg >> Over-resolutioned pic is only 1/2 there, Rick. Better RE-TAKE @! ! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 31 08:36:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1998740424 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:36:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f181.google.com (mail-ve0-f181.google.com [209.85.128.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13826403BB; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 08:33:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f181.google.com with SMTP id jz10so829385veb.26 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:33:51 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=u/aiGD434Q+5oEmrTIHZWpr7vO3nB2tBv8ZilL20Fbg=; b=aYqpQ1fNKknLKyHC0I+pRxwNKZyp9tU3/RElaOnABgmCG2UF2qH8UKveW2Y6oZ3+JQ r3HgzGwP9YBDFL6PRn1iRleRu3LWk6gS2Ep9WFtdbOC1ojg9MohIgOlLwBEbwmPk6y7H 6TetT5nAbOUK8JDArosrJGqAPiLVWXNf6/NsekdrHLv7zx/+eEh8oSBtEjDlCW54hEMZ eEKij9CtDAgFArGr9FfKQELhIbAA22joCCMdC+8OBW6Pu9b35BOAD6eKsIp2pCzMgYcj ylpBfK3hiXmlXB5FbXRRAljZ46YDZR75wIVlF01mzV+lCfJomBx3X6Zm7fEYfsqP+WJP KT7g== u10mr28870090vek.39.1375281231866; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:33:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.66 with HTTP; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 07:33:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 09:33:51 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Tiny TD update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, The Moss order arrived yesterday (Isn't that always fun?!) so I went back to work on the head this morning. I installed all the valves, lubricated the stems with assembly lube, and used the new parts that just arrived. I had previously lapped the valves onto their seats. Here's how the head looks now. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130731_085607e.jpg Just for safe, clean storage, I put the previously refreshed rocker gear in place and installed the bolts finger tight. And just because this is a passion, I had to take a glamour shot (by Deb). http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130731_090641e.jpg In that picture you can see the oil filler cap. The plating has eroded away over the car's 60-year life, so I just cleaned the cap, lightly polished the metal, and installed it. That's it for this morning. Gotta run to the autoparts store for five valve stems - the kind that attach with a nut. The holes for the innertube stems is a little too large for conventional rubber valve stems. Perhaps there is a special stem for this purpose. I'll check. Happy whatever day this is. -rick PS: I read on some list, possibly this one, that classic car restoration/preservation is more than a hobby; Its a passion. Thus, the use of that word above. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive