From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 4 21:33:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D84D942A79 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 21:33:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.100]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02254429F8 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2013 21:32:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.165] by nm12.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2013 03:32:54 -0000 Received: from [67.195.22.113] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2013 03:32:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2013 03:32:54 -0000 uSOB6iUeLuqUxxVBfNq0Mv24_wNQpXxxmbauViS8SSeiGW3LH8XkfPe3RN9P rhbW4TIbeReXvHIUht7SqgzilYZSJee6shQXNGNZ2_R_dkJ7CwqH8_EDgDse JpN2HYGdFb5wBVo1UQDSZfYV4HeX.jabjB.nUpsoOoYiE7Q.QH8lzLErdAlf 02AFg8n04HSiC_0K6F.c3.sP2_IeZ8U41tQ1KHOt28.ZWzkToIUK7GP7AwPA IrdWQenpw_2mN7TjnGThLrvZQ7YqW0Ipe.p7c4cWfU92yn_ZZMDOHUG8Pg45 Qzi448of6CjIZwhjQOgrz3fg8UYjZirP6fBAuwwcu4IEIi.Ad43lFeRAsp14 khnxpQxrRe0wp.Wj8WhqOL97gee6fRoxGyL7Xtx.fwZrRqPRfdhjUcRkbQY3 0AkTcNPOFAQUKzpVCUcsWcithekJcaV8uZUD3EnpGAHDjFNP9aQDT.09T4eU J8dReCIjoeXEez9yW9Lbgfn5a12HO4Ctj8RPdN_Ft1KSX6Ilfdg-- smtp115.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Aug 2013 20:32:54 -0700 PDT From: Duvall Video Productions Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2013 22:32:53 -0500 To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] front seal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone have any experience with replacing the crank front rope seal without removing the engine? Is it possible? ( don't mention the crappy kits moss sells, I used their parts and my T leaks worse than ever) ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 03:27:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 726C942857 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 03:27:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A4242706 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 03:27:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 33B0D7003545F; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 05:27:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-meb002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-meb002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.46.133]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CBCD3E000081; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 05:27:43 -0400 (EDT) References: To: mike@duvallvideo.com, mg-t@autox.team.net From: laf48@aol.com Received: from 96.239.93.8 by webmail-d298.sysops.aol.com (205.188.93.240) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 05 Aug 2013 05:27:43 -0400 Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 05:27:43 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1375694864; bh=ATHS2bt9EQ6BtOx3j+yjDauQJEjMBuahIFnKZg4t+y8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WkXS4t6vP/rIX9/mV1W2WAjxn8VYfoSQcOhg2eQUwhPJ7AHBi5OSX/9AUSQFJ5usY Fyd6JE6wUFsXYLg9+KT4lrbsfAyu0Ze2+Oox2o49ZgUvYwLuXoJ/MqY5KinBvdLQHh MWoYb0jthBjmr2IZar9obpVM/OxQH4dm7i6dK+IM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d51ff700f465d Subject: Re: [Mg-t] front seal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Mike, Use a'88 volvo cam seal. gates pn ks 13945.national # 1172, fel pro tcs45725. it fits better than a moss seal, & has a double lip seal, not a single lip seal. No machine work required Len Fanelli -----Original Message----- From: Duvall Video Productions To: mg-t Sent: Sun, Aug 4, 2013 11:33 pm Subject: [Mg-t] front seal Does anyone have any experience with replacing the crank front rope seal without removing the engine? Is it possible? ( don't mention the crappy kits moss sells, I used their parts and my T leaks worse than ever) ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 09:01:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFC5842AE9 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:01:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (unknown [209.86.89.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B727A40382 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 07:56:10 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=sbR2ZwQhFUOruUBTozJB/zJdPfbj+ke7o432Rh5SzQq5SHg1VVNqMLLtbjnzV3jD; h=Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [99.146.30.53] (helo=[192.168.1.33]) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1V6LGD-0001aT-EV; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 09:55:45 -0400 From: John Seim Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 06:55:44 -0700 References: To: Duvall Video Productions Cc: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] front seal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net You have to remove the oil pan and front timing cover. Chances are, the lip seal cut a groove into the cast iron front crank pulley. You might want to place a Speedi-Sleeve onto the pulley shaft, for the rope seal to seal against. CR99146. 1.411-1.417 diameters. John Seim Irvine, CA On Aug 4, 2013, at 8:32 PM, Duvall Video Productions wrote: > Does anyone have any experience with replacing the crank front rope seal > without removing the engine? Is it possible? > > ( don't mention the crappy kits moss sells, I used their parts and my T leaks > worse than ever) > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 09:49:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542C342B4F for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:49:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f179.google.com (mail-ve0-f179.google.com [209.85.128.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31EF425C4; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:38:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f179.google.com with SMTP id c13so3253319vea.38 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:38:03 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SPqomR/taA1zv1qu56yrPv0CDUyztSkYsxedRirGo0k=; b=0O5fTVMxnBfj1qpWs7tK6OcyIHjR7UVLHEAL6kJs6lTcS9HFipkJnONuoalYWbj8cY 9mBkIw1HVZq1lo9/99FAnM0BGM3MdNWCKR2RAn3BmZxgN4TS+m2fSfGwdEbkzounQC+9 MV/spJlO5Zm8VWNZsApqn7lRkzrlmUclZAX+r9En5hZoconqj8DI/gQ9ljCKSVykCrKQ OGYW+9ps8wWzp/n1/8wy3rpti0eBe9C2h1UUDSiw0waDQgQkL8oZkNlKTuHpLdPc33TV N4AxCLEab1EnXmncf3msSbgdrVjTH83VzOd7haGNP2dQW9IIVvP2TQOcK0KeKstAGe3P Xo1A== Mon, 05 Aug 2013 08:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.66 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 08:38:03 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:38:03 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net, "mgs@autox.team.net List" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Oh no! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Good morning Friends, Today I made an embarrassing discovery! While stripping the paint from my TD's starter, I discovered...GREEN Triumph engine paint! I'm not going to tell the old boy what I found for fear of a 'breakdown'. Never a dull moment with these fun old cars. Of course, I'm teasing. The XPAG engine and the TR3's engine, use the same Lucas starter, just as many cars share other Lucas, Bendix, Smiths, etc., parts. My little TD has a Lucas starter that once lived on a Triumph. To complete the story, the starter is now rebuilt and painted black. Its pretty and runs great. No pix to share. Sorry. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 5 10:16:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 494D542B5A for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:16:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f178.google.com (mail-ve0-f178.google.com [209.85.128.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4642B40551; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 10:09:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f178.google.com with SMTP id ox1so3342227veb.9 for ; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 09:09:49 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=qONAgMLKbt9Wp9ysWy3FGaafVExLatMXfLnGS9gSufY=; b=sDuoaTRDiLGrAfeeY2yEDKEySnh3dRvkGn31v+BpLPQuo1s25CAPhZWsRQT2RG6HIU UgNuG6EMSTtQo6JpTYi3Bzp7h9MrSF6GSp8wSb03mLv74vVbWa12XPoVzoo9AhQgmaSi lM8HUt1AZAUjcBDF1PYkVLloc4vWK5Z2bsGnn/2bgWmSIWoQ2c3uI7A/0TnCX6KC2Gqu F/gusinFgL0SJizXujBCLUnsgK0Je3hDWZxTm3HzoB5yS6qo7vPUpq0+29HrPc/nVhaL 6zbednYkxLTjNNGNnKJUIga46rxy8gRsxW46CdP2ymafQ09CZH9v1gjuOHpMVpc8/XcY 6cOA== y13mr1468732vcl.20.1375718989577; Mon, 05 Aug 2013 09:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.66 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Aug 2013 09:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 11:09:49 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: peter gregware , "mgs@autox.team.net List" , mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] OT - My friend has a great car needing a good home Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, Please forgive the commercial nature of this post. I'm not writing to advertise a car so much as trying to help a friend who badly needs to liquidate his car. The car is a Triumph TR3. Yea, I know this is the M.G., list but this is a great car for someone - and at a bottom-dollar price. (Check Hagerty to see the value of a nicely restored car!) Sadly (or not) I already have NINE cars. Here are a few pictures; http://www.aubard.us/Pete/ ...and his listing, http://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/3937042732.html Thanks guys and again, sorry for 'marketing'. Peter's a really good guy. He just needs a little help right now. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 6 15:01:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374C24292B for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:01:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f47.google.com (mail-oa0-f47.google.com [209.85.219.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D54428FE; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:01:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id g12so1816142oah.6 for ; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 14:01:02 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=OP91ENv55oIQrIZ0Mu2bHfD+f1px42aI/Kc8loIz7K8=; b=UuM532zidQlM2rZ+ECVXkrCHFXztwj8/Y0NofLkU0r0jGabOHSnChHPLlbvjXtwt/n wpRWknGiTW8Zaad62twXkw5T00JKWRBb9jKYrBxkwR8xMdyqGJ0hPcOsRpjO1F7RMQR1 78noJ1TuD3eZBqmZbjmeypFliVPnu6hef2Uhzlo5VKNcnuWMKsFs2huW1T5TkBw2Pe5e T/uFYXq7OQo1OwRXzVfloeG+dFpPkdm/KlPw1YX7ZEm0yU+WEwLxgdtpDLOGFzeZv+Au CjLJwRvmWniJ9kkevHa7ulFWe+bIMGsOKX9P1C8mMEInO72JMJuzOrSqih8G9/O8vkO8 0ypg== Tue, 06 Aug 2013 14:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.42.4] (99-37-165-19.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [99.37.165.19]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n2sm3786639obo.6.2013.08.06.14.01.00 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 06 Aug 2013 14:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 16:00:58 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net, mgs@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Starter rebuild... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, My '53 TD's M35G starter rebuild is almost complete. B Everything is clean and lubricated, where appropriate. B Bushes are just fine, oil soaked and their journals are smooth. What I did discover is that the brass terminal post is not soldered to the field windings! B The two flat conductors from the field, were just pinched into the slot in the inner end of the post. B They were quite grimey at the contact point, so they've been like this for quite a while. Reviewing the workshop manual today, I see that the flat conductors should be (apparently) soldered to the post. B Can you verify that is correct? B Considering the current drawn, I can't imagine that a simple press-fit connection is valid - but I could be wrong. B Your thoughts? -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 6 15:18:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34E342950 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:18:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5794291B; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:18:22 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=beugzjYQ8PRcOvmsffEU3r4VDbTbl8IIEwjKavyc8Xz1NMRehrUQql28I01posO6; h=Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [99.17.31.117] (helo=[192.168.1.33]) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1V6oe5-0002RD-Gc; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:18:21 -0400 From: John Seim Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2013 14:18:20 -0700 References: To: Rick Lindsay Cc: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Starter rebuild... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Chances are, you have aluminum replacement coils in your starter. Originally, the brushes were crimped to the aluminum, as you cannot solder them. Might have been spot welded. When brushes need to be replaced, and the field coil is made of aluminum, best to replace the field coils with those made of copper. John Seim Irvine, CA On Aug 6, 2013, at 2:00 PM, Rick Lindsay wrote: > Hi Friends, > > My '53 TD's M35G starter rebuild is almost complete. B Everything is clean and lubricated, where appropriate. B Bushes are just fine, oil soaked and their journals are smooth. > > What I did discover is that the brass terminal post is not soldered to the field windings! B The two flat conductors from the field, were just pinched into the slot in the inner end of the post. B They were quite grimey at the contact point, so they've been like this for quite a while. > > Reviewing the workshop manual today, I see that the flat conductors should be (apparently) soldered to the post. B Can you verify that is correct? B Considering the current drawn, I can't imagine that a simple press-fit connection is valid - but I could be wrong. B Your thoughts? > > -rick > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/kingseim@earthlink.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 6 15:20:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D61A14295B for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:20:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A89442926; Tue, 6 Aug 2013 15:20:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id dn14so2035338obc.40 for ; Tue, 06 Aug 2013 14:20:20 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:cc:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=cf0mVQCJCxuhl9RAsuARNVYBWnMrXgmbCTB1NN8CYvI=; b=MfxFcl/F5VPIhjGhypLD2kQFAnV3KWttv2tASchFFO0KN+kZT01VcLsrYpqLvrkTBI ell9Plv+aNMKQZInlp+LtYCjRciJKFFDnmolbmRtME3gPsEyMxBd5sIHhhud/xA2TM5L xQKnDG1RO8qvnQx9fvgTzdmUlilNmaLQsd6VsgvA/v7pY/CMu5Cw1VCKol4LS20URHe1 dZqhICd7naudyITs+pDxyN8/RNMPp8k4RQto9QdJL4IFUm49KITr3XvnGtRDfCIc+x/w wjElkzxcty1sw+xfBP3XlYB7lnYMSs2uWr71sy5RXxpBXlkFOcKxoiKcKLmannS4vq7z kuxA== Tue, 06 Aug 2013 14:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.16.42.4] (99-37-165-19.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [99.37.165.19]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g5sm799507igc.9.2013.08.06.14.20.18 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 06 Aug 2013 14:20:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2013 16:20:15 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: kingseim@earthlink.net Cc: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Starter rebuild... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi John. B Thanks. B They may be aluminum. B If so, I understand the problem. B Thanks. -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. -------- Original message -------- From: John Seim Date: 08/06/2013 4:18 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Rick Lindsay Cc: mg-t@autox.team.net,mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Starter rebuild... Chances are, you have aluminum replacement coils in your starter. Originally, the brushes were crimped to the aluminum, as you cannot solder them. Might have been spot welded. When brushes need to be replaced, and the field coil is made of aluminum, best to replace the field coils with those made of copper. John Seim Irvine, CA On Aug 6, 2013, at 2:00 PM, Rick Lindsay wrote: > Hi Friends, > > My '53 TD's M35G starter rebuild is almost complete. B Everything is clean and lubricated, where appropriate. B Bushes are just fine, oil soaked and their journals are smooth. > > What I did discover is that the brass terminal post is not soldered to the field windings! B The two flat conductors from the field, were just pinched into the slot in the inner end of the post. B They were quite grimey at the contact point, so they've been like this for quite a while. > > Reviewing the workshop manual today, I see that the flat conductors should be (apparently) soldered to the post. B Can you verify that is correct? B Considering the current drawn, I can't imagine that a simple press-fit connection is valid - but I could be wrong. B Your thoughts? > > -rick > > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donationB $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/kingseim@earthlink.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 10 09:18:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255E043133 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:18:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC012438F1; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 09:17:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id q14so4698056vbe.41 for ; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 08:17:50 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=GsptHju11lnbTJvqVuOU9XC/Rg565XVfmWUhIvn/Zo4=; b=RM5oooJszvSvS9+3j23slJ6YdMDXHGXUMU9/LqcGGz35A7f8PyK2Dsofg/LLX3/xPe 1e9m7xA6fQSianH+i+SOimRh88hdE/hpoEtsbylrIxJlVWY/54O/VuEPi7Q4m57Gu2gh bJ8o2JqJGGbTD8PmO+MvK8ZWwkbGozgOm3wGpd8BadWK/cV6jZSXTdSPE3ECilKUw5xR AYexqMsUsPqhkAkpzT4PmQeWVz2FfyCE4QpaMVDJCMvWVucYSkbzrITVRys8eRgvcxHK 6Z0xaTcvsk0SF80latOEB2POxwqHBeIMqpjdjcZcB2WnCTGe4uarEaJ5WSlBKSmjmKxE pvxQ== Sat, 10 Aug 2013 08:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.66 with HTTP; Sat, 10 Aug 2013 08:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2013 10:17:49 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net, "mgs@autox.team.net List" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] HOT! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, Man is it ever hot here in south Texas! You'd think it was August in the south! Wait... I got up early this morning and swept a clean spot in the garage. I then rolled the TD chassis over into that spot while I swept out the work area. I followed that with the putty knife scraping each of those little globs of greasy dirt from the concrete, followed by sweeping again. Needless to say, even at 8am, it was already 3.28125 x 10^23 degrees F with 347% humidity! I spent the next 10 minutes sitting on the roll around stool, in front of the garage fan! With that area clean, I pushed the chassis back into the work bay and washed the floor of Nancy's bay. Its drying now, adding another percent or two to the already impossible humidity. Here's how the garage looks now. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130810_095905e.jpg No, I don't like cleaning up any more than the next guy, but when the grunge gets so bad that I risk tracking the crud indoors, its time to act. If I spooged the new carpet, there'd be hell to pay! Happy Saturday, -rick PS: While I winge on about the summer heat and humidity in south Texas, I remain reminded that winters here are genius. One can drive with the top down all winter long, thereby creating balance in the universe. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 12 06:18:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87F41438A4 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 06:18:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.ecu.edu (mail1.ecu.edu [150.216.17.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 140BF4313B for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 06:16:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown (HELO Hub1.intra.ecu.edu) ([150.216.17.188]) by ironport1.ecu.edu with ESMTP; 12 Aug 2013 08:15:41 -0400 Received: from MOE.intra.ecu.edu ([169.254.3.202]) by Hub1.intra.ecu.edu ([150.216.17.188]) with mapi id 14.02.0328.009; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 08:15:41 -0400 From: "Gable, Gerry" To: "mg-t@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: TC Tub Thread-Index: Ac6XVctAdTvz2NUpS8C1Wn/Z/9facg== Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 12:15:40 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [150.216.17.74] Subject: [Mg-t] TC Tub Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Good day all, I am in the process of replacing the wood in a TC. Mainly the side curtain box and one of the side rails. I was going to have someone do it for me but that person is really jammed up at this time. I got most of the wood needed from Craig Seabrook and have the blow ups out of the Moss catalogue. I went as far as to pick up a dilapidated tub to use as a show and tell for where and how the pieces go together. However, the tub I got is somewhat different from the one I have and only tells me part of the story. Would anyone out in MG land have pictures of the wood being assembled and how they are held in place-that would be the Rest of the Story. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Gerry ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 12 18:52:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB30429B0 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:52:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f180.google.com (mail-ob0-f180.google.com [209.85.214.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCEF2427E5 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 18:51:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f180.google.com with SMTP id up14so9628663obb.39 for ; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:51:01 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=b74VcYpYCdeR0mTxE5yILuaFb2/jzz8xagQMf/V3n1k=; b=xNjzskaEYptYsj98fJPKWt2xSc20ga+HMAwkieCZ/xN+jo3iD12z02aOkE+gJaf5JW iEkWrW4br2v7rm6RuLUfI4VFaeuSwSL0SPpk4dw+UlkXdZLOi7GAxerIgUfC0PmKvg5m uRkz2qvzCW8kruzzMgLfwKnyJPolWV4fSQbQMgOl+uAmmZqjEyTthJBd8TYlwoLPca3B RX3EevT4A7iieiB8RkwM3+rzu+HuSs19dl3qncmgMPNAjNFawwz1MvkdiIu00AxKDRDD wR75stbnr8qBzdcUS154XEVDy+kbHr+4TJs2t8gCKLYICVtxGrO9Oz7G7oHyIfxh0JVe HrsQ== sy7mr1261474obc.24.1376355061497; Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id xr8sm219670obc.12.2013.08.12.17.50.59 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 12 Aug 2013 17:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 19:50:56 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] TD progress Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends,B Still cleaning the engine and gearbox. B Nothing worth pictures happening until I get them clean and ready for primer. -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 14 13:25:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BC640449 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 13:25:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E20340421 for ; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 13:21:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CiwX1m0060S2fkCA8jMcAa; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 19:21:36 +0000 Received: from yourmb2swywknr ([98.223.26.205]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id CjMa1m00n4RWySi8VjMbjx; Wed, 14 Aug 2013 19:21:35 +0000 From: "Bob Donahue" To: "mg-t" Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 15:21:55 -0400 s=q20121106; t=1376508096; bh=Da7zAWXooS8cxQSa0JfW5/c5zFpziK29i8u/Afn9iT8=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=PdTbri5bTQaB3BWeBUuYhuyKhDAgHPGGXKN+mj3FbC86trrPDlc8VSUb9P/qPGsqV 6SKmpcz9cqqaDsTMbRKsh/efcQVqU5V/aKlz4KsJlzqq/FosIa3qfFAttGUS5Z1dyv L3U45IAszXmk8G2Wgd6KB5fnrUYv9ErNPojz2Y+99OFUALRGb4e0SHF66s4m86umfF Ntvty0/wDMt2pTBFKyC4a5gtASIWuaxqaPvTIZz3jUKHkbMdGChdSfsCeElG+pRm5f 4I7RkvipHCiyh0hwkOuwhuLbzdq8Td9YatpUmYbwIQD7DkvNTgZClM74i800F8CY4i O6ZXEtLtpz7qQ== Subject: [Mg-t] Allen wrench size for Moss Wind Wings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone know the allen wrench size for the setscrews on the Moss Wind Wings? The "supplied" allen wrench was not supplied on my order. (I suspect it is metric since mine do not fit.) Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) Email - bobmgtd@comcast.net Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 Member: NEMGTR #11470 NAMGBR # 7-3336 Hoosier MGB Club Olde Octagons of Indiana ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 15 11:55:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4F1403FB for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:55:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f180.google.com (mail-ve0-f180.google.com [209.85.128.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 545FC403F0; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:55:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f180.google.com with SMTP id pb11so810127veb.11 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 10:55:42 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=shhc0xpNe/tQiJffnW00s+4tHWzVEpPuIN67m0LSTl0=; b=wLFR7kJ3LktAF0O1VIQujv62f6pmmtUpQ3nKH+VcZGxIFi2jurl6g6RBJIBeSh0q1K j6qerAI3tSPIrhdKwg3up0OEvBZhlZRrR7SGLKYEQbbfRc3vYT++bNqhmEVf1Ikre88J xHFaQeRbw1zPHh7en+xhUCtk7PRVra8V+Ry9bvUwzpWSTIullrGqATHD7V4xi37e1ap6 SqsStrm6AEFRelSrj0isnJ/ufB4nVmDoJvI1nkZZnqvglDMFJTTdLa5MUx7Fk6+YpBiv l6kDIzLig+FXtioNZKyfxKZWMXP0ommP793RqUphRYohkK6esx5jZBBvvLxPOBWPyMqx YXww== ec1mr663049vdb.49.1376589342049; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 10:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.66 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 10:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 12:55:42 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Engine and gearbox clean Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, I haven't written much lately but I have been in the garage. Included below are pictures of my TD's engine and gearbox, primered and ready for red paint. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130815_122938.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130815_122949.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130815_122959.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130815_123024.jpg Today is really humid, thanks to off and on rain showers. That's no real issue when painting primer. However, the humidity will cause milky finish problems with gloss paint. Therefore, I am waiting to paint the assembly tomorrow when fine weather is forecast. Pictures to follow. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 15 15:22:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDD74041C for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:22:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f178.google.com (mail-vc0-f178.google.com [209.85.220.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447BA403FC; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 15:21:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id ha12so884509vcb.23 for ; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 14:21:54 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=hcgf6rqL20XTKQeBM58dNkqVD8MeopzLRfHrVGJsVdA=; b=aEHkcABXCMIoPWL2JJkng1FVsoNYHAUKqA1+zJux3az7fHClQhQS/dugFhH/X+k3oa BYnjNrW3Uxhals/M4czHIlQCsiqLKkym0WB2Y08E2sYnp8QR9K4CYp1R1aqVYD2t8WLJ mgDftcFDir91bAgTiv4dbbz6OcTQVDPpDVMT0vP25lWvXB4Z9zsXgP0OM94bZ4MS/Lxx dlQnvqPDUppBVsNBVUlVgZhmbBDbfsWwAR97iDk4Df/rwJb3D3sIeeINl7AfE8Pma/MN BI302vEgDOOyMO3mvcvnZcyNlLdLL6ZTF4rZ04GzZAFgiTYNlyDZZDjVx9rpoasBt+1O 2xNg== g2mr16333000vee.12.1376601713890; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 14:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.59.1.66 with HTTP; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 14:21:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 16:21:53 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Engine and gearbox painted Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Friends, Weather cleared and the relative humidity went down. Therefore, I could paint. Without a bunch of words to muddle thing up, here are some pictures, as the TD's engine room looks today. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130815_154942.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130815_154954.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130815_155009.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130815_155016.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130815_155024.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130815_155049.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130815_155102.jpg The engine is secured at the rear but is resting on a floor jack in the front, under the sump, while the front bracket is refinished and the motor mount is being replaced. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 16 13:16:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827F34069F for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:16:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f43.google.com (mail-oa0-f43.google.com [209.85.219.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695BF4006E; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:15:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id i10so2699580oag.2 for ; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:15:05 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=CdIGHXiGVfP0l/gV4tGKET3Du29Ten35H/LgwqIU/0k=; b=lLPXOwWSWaxxvTGSFA0TiRQ3cHflsnSZpqDmZED9He9RQkKipDMbdXBDRt2bzo2b0D xnmPMmVUCphtA3NI9t07rCQflGYEYRHnHPgtKcwKWS2ZfAg/MfALtYJUEmXwBu65dlI3 SlPTgNQiInmwXec5s5+JD3zp1+RjNW/b+4Ol+taR0UVmf6+5QpkO2XyCth9Q1F2Dq5Vt CJr4wzgvKMJDBGWyWtwSFKo4pOTvvhFircInb4ahEk7HuvAl0idA70MhevFBGyB8triA /onebDT+qe8ThMC3KDooIJoWxvhM91h5UfLYOv14Ny44/2aBRpIsESV9z+mBwv5C7PXv Nurg== p10mr2558514oei.18.1376680505877; Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id fk3sm2584963obb.2.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 16 Aug 2013 12:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 14:15:01 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net, tr3a@yahoogroups.com, mgs@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] OT - Radnor Hunt Concours Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, Any of you planning to attend the 2013 Radnor Hunt Concours d'Elegance (in Pennsylvania)? http://radnorconcours.org/ Theme this year is cars of the art deco era! I love that style, if more French than British.B Nancy and I will be there and driving a boring rental car in the rallye. Join us? -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 19 07:17:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 146A4403D5 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 07:17:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f170.google.com (mail-ob0-f170.google.com [209.85.214.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F66403B9 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 07:17:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f170.google.com with SMTP id eh20so5338596obb.15 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 06:17:11 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=2s9T3E1Jf7CI0o6ljwqKm2VnfEEuGqK20Hd6I8Msf1s=; b=GqRqyQqqRgB7s9ymBn1SSIHy8RNtpJJa4ajtxUPtjP8pHvPvRWynLUxHm+O2CFwIS8 J3qdA+DXOVg1NGIh4tmBX5cydpQ4Sr9/ZK8ccbL6eA2DcrrrjquK3egoNwuhpGqIkA3f NDYaJy0cJbz4mIclMDaCWTw0BTcWVRubG3mj2IaG6ly/vac8UIeCi+YrbKMp+Uu0QNMX sgMRPG1HtviyikPhps7UDRTIEpnc6fbhrmozCPFKHhmwrFdcbISOaNdOmPDHmRUnj83i S4uVIz9kXREAkQ2/1mYzcRO3pwYgFmEGxOA6dtd6INlQ7BFP693FFY7cYvSTMVzEmTVO r4vg== Mon, 19 Aug 2013 06:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2600:1015:b11f:643c:27b5:2c53:e5cd:7029? ([2600:1015:b11f:643c:27b5:2c53:e5cd:7029]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id i3sm2286515igh.0.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 19 Aug 2013 06:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 09:17:05 -0400 From: Rick Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Gearbox 'remote control' Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, I have never rebuilt a gearbox, nor have I ever even opened one. I have flushed them with clean oil and refilled them, but cracking them open is scary. Today I realize that I should remove, clean, lubricate and reinstall the TD's gearbox 'remote control'. I have read the workshop manual, and have studied the manual's exploded diagrams, and I thought I understood the removal procedure. Hummm. My TD is a very late '53 model and the manual says to simply remove the four bolts securing the remote control to the gearbox and lift the assembly away, then cover the open wound in the gearbox with a cardboard cover. Simple, eh? And being a late car, there is no risk of pesky ball falling down into the gearbox entrails. B So with the gearbox in neutral, I followed the manual's procedure. However, the remote control's business end appears to be attached within the gearbox! What's up with that? Is it that the ball-end of the selector is stuck in a receptor requiring a little 'pull' to free it, or is there a paragraph missing from the manual, or am I just doing something wrong? Expiring minds want to know.B All advice would be appreciated. Thank you. -rick, in Houston Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 19 07:27:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19A4E40515 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 07:27:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E891403B9 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 07:26:43 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=MZCmQWlVDk7OuHZMIcZrBttTs2rtAYZH8Es62sl9gN6+jv8+wef9/h6ZSXuniPCH; h=Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [108.71.33.252] (helo=[192.168.1.33]) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VBPTc-0004LQ-OA; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 09:26:32 -0400 From: John Seim Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 06:26:31 -0700 References: To: Rick Lindsay Cc: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Gearbox 'remote control' Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net The 3rd-4th shift rod is longer, than earlier models. Shift the transmission into 4th. That moves the rod forward, and places the shift pin at the rear of its travel. John Seim Irvine, CA On Aug 19, 2013, at 6:17 AM, Rick Lindsay wrote: > Hello Friends, > > I have never rebuilt a gearbox, nor have I ever even opened one. I have flushed them with clean oil and refilled them, but cracking them open is scary. > > Today I realize that I should remove, clean, lubricate and reinstall the TD's gearbox 'remote control'. I have read the workshop manual, and have studied the manual's exploded diagrams, and I thought I understood the removal procedure. Hummm. > > My TD is a very late '53 model and the manual says to simply remove the four bolts securing the remote control to the gearbox and lift the assembly away, then cover the open wound in the gearbox with a cardboard cover. Simple, eh? And being a late car, there is no risk of pesky ball falling down into the gearbox entrails. B > > So with the gearbox in neutral, I followed the manual's procedure. However, the remote control's business end appears to be attached within the gearbox! What's up with that? Is it that the ball-end of the selector is stuck in a receptor requiring a little 'pull' to free it, or is there a paragraph missing from the manual, or am I just doing something wrong? Expiring minds want to know.B > > All advice would be appreciated. Thank you. > > -rick, in Houston > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/kingseim@earthlink.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 19 15:32:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D5744044F for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 15:32:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1598A40323 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 15:32:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.76]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Edi11m0031eYJf801lYP7F; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 21:32:23 +0000 Received: from yourmb2swywknr ([98.223.26.205]) by omta19.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ElYN1m00N4RWySi01lYPVd; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 21:32:23 +0000 From: "Bob Donahue" To: "mg-t" Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:01:07 -0400 s=q20121106; t=1376947943; bh=GYBF8fFm4CqK/Tek7mXQDJ4RTFAIP4XzvWYT9TRr7mI=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=ahAZ4bMpr6cDTjdIBbhRqcoXPiUGF1hQLsjjawiAD5cpdsVMGZB5uQJk/5fm9D2m7 5Bd5H7ctO/XzVIEAYKn9ICr5+sbhdDesVjwfVUOy2yvtXsvSHTljvZjwoNrIbacXSo iHETNg7sTPBeXZs+tgBjP14Nx7Tx69cZptJjn3rqkZznC9m4c6nwv+Ex2Mw3y3hF/x 6v0m5hJfFG9Uxvf+L6qqIacBnmA4z5gArhRv987tx5WW5/btCvl5825SUQ2raaoKcs oBnYKYfh+YfLyz18fEGwsoXtRHnAOb+NuWi5WNf+Jv8a+oC7Kan7gRu29Z08Te0BVA e+cNWdeuIjf3A== Subject: [Mg-t] Wind Wings, waste of money? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net I bought a set of Wind Wings for my TD. I have to say I'm not impressed. I still had to stick an ear plug in my left ear to protect my eardrum. Are these things a complete waste of money? I set the wings for a 45 degree angle, like the instructions said. Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) Email - bobmgtd@comcast.net Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 Member: NEMGTR #11470 NAMGBR # 7-3336 Hoosier MGB Club Olde Octagons of Indiana ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 19 15:43:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480CE4272D for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 15:43:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f177.google.com (mail-ie0-f177.google.com [209.85.223.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C913840406 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 15:42:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f177.google.com with SMTP id u16so463135iet.8 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 14:42:40 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Q6NWCyWz8x2h/7IrFc4ncRzwa5Pdq4DmiwulqIK8oAk=; b=AVk/t61LM3rnCZEpb5sXpCvnhAa8Qf51RuTZ5D4PHp9UFlSRWbqPeOVBoC1l4YZjxd STw/bGYLFERCJWLNSWx0Jx+4ijHPxL2Y3mEe6Pa3QDIWUOjEvp6VitnrOEFxYpp6tnhY 09VR8h4vjTaTGWvAcbZpP6ZCReymvAGHIytNhTBgigLipEw3e/mcM5KWsGJrw2yTbEhx 2KWp4MYjEt6KLygUhSM6wDI2FRIW+oTRQa9ejIofV22pn4zOblCZd4zSh5e6ZiPOBSrz 0HF6YfHTfUnlu4pGLvpXn92UqYggXfK6+nGuBuBeeBSZcL8wU4M6htTPUgXUXmprFv5n V5Iw== Mon, 19 Aug 2013 14:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.225.67 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 14:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.225.67 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 14:42:40 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 22:42:40 +0100 From: Geoff Rawlings To: Bob Donahue Cc: mg-t Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Wind Wings, waste of money? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net I'd have to agree. I made a pair years ago for our Morgan and they were a waste of time. I also tried them on Penny's TC, my PA and still no use. Never gave up though. The only car they've been effective on is our wonderful Talbot! Mind you, the windscreen is very narrow. Geoff Rawlings Temporarily at: 97 Downshire Road, Holywood, BT18 9LY WWW.GOING-THE-EXTRA-MILE.COM No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number if electrons were terribly inconvenienced! tel: +44 (0) 28-9042-5564 mob: +44 (0) 78-6048-7932 skype: Geoff_Rawlings On 19 Aug 2013 22:32, "Bob Donahue" wrote: > I bought a set of Wind Wings for my TD. I have to say I'm not impressed. I > still had to stick an ear plug in my left ear to protect my eardrum. Are > these > things a complete waste of money? I set the wings for a 45 degree angle, > like > the instructions said. > > Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) > Email - bobmgtd@comcast.net > Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 > 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 > Member: NEMGTR #11470 > NAMGBR # 7-3336 > Hoosier MGB Club > Olde Octagons of Indiana > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/geoff.rawlings@gmail.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 19 16:28:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC6E40411 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 16:28:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from nm47-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm47-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8997403B9 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 16:28:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.214.32] by nm47.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2013 22:28:05 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.205] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2013 22:28:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp214.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2013 22:28:05 -0000 s=s1024; t=1376951285; bh=b44c6WntEF9mJLp6iqEZnuosuHjySrxNoC77gresK14=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=h5XXGH8AwnsJXzs/xQdUZeAeLrR5e1wFK7bd7RmmzfRuZiIuTvUV/vYynvLJtuYGnJG9TYDIOXYaLnBzorgfcsWMxlzGb5zRChPdxakYERz0ymil/Cn6GV00GYU2/4EHi6qV0SzrLNFEMXPvL7x/1ORkFkvxWMhhjhT2FYFHFTA= fhY_IVLgqty3h0YyVoOpKiWQIBkBXGQyJg8xpwLiJE5Mcstq4gjoEaWxh8yH 6KTAIH.WB2wFS1DhyEiKWG_.0D1pTSSMLPQUFRi5Zvuuq6xa4WbOUdTxdXn. D9MpmNkSfqpviyVXjpP3Kmv4M859jUK5G6QgEjoZb5kM1YlM_5dwwO9F8p.a k.pCVt0GUIPh94Oq_yEVhLfCu_UeiPdMlrqPafySVMlMCr5b5AVxiwtR8RXV QM.ADVMZWuG.6HRbApDjAtopMw6FTNFOGQmrylm7R_ZQmRsJP1OsMGZJW4i1 pjqv9_v8I_C.mWJ4vX1HnOgaiJiYqxt.1bqldhK0DGUzidTKNSBFYVSbyovz fra9ZA2H2lXsLWQoRcYdpEqOnTGt4YqQPNzp74Op8cM3CkuoGZeO9D7bj8HI wPaVPCTJO63.mp5IALSp2CPCrytCATwUUN68VQtudbVAZbbqmRwus43tAQVi 11PrMn3KALb9v06ng54Ki.cliFQEyutSiPJQrK1HThGzEKmK77y1g8FZiPpB D smtp214.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Aug 2013 15:28:05 -0700 PDT References: From: WBEECH Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:27:44 -0500 To: Bob Donahue Cc: mg-t Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Wind Wings, waste of money? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net I have them on my Triumph, I can sure tell a difference. Still windy but not so much in you face. Bill Sent from my iPhone On Aug 19, 2013, at 4:01 PM, "Bob Donahue" wrote: > I bought a set of Wind Wings for my TD. I have to say I'm not impressed. I > still had to stick an ear plug in my left ear to protect my eardrum. Are these > things a complete waste of money? I set the wings for a 45 degree angle, like > the instructions said. > > Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) > Email - bobmgtd@comcast.net > Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 > 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 > Member: NEMGTR #11470 > NAMGBR # 7-3336 > Hoosier MGB Club > Olde Octagons of Indiana > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/wbeech@flash.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 19 16:30:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC16403EB for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 16:30:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D921403B9 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 16:29:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ekdi1m0030x6nqcAFmVwGc; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 22:29:56 +0000 Received: from [10.242.182.196] ([174.228.4.19]) by omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id EmVk1m00X0QdFVq8YmVnNv; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 22:29:54 +0000 To: "=?utf-8?B?Qm9iIERvbmFodWU=?=" ,"=?utf-8?B?bWctdA==?=" From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:29:52 -0500 s=q20121106; t=1376951396; bh=GLOk0mDPOSndAwT3QOCIvQFAN5pqH3Z8eiIwr7RWAv0=; h=Received:Received:To:From:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kmaSJjV1zZUvLBa+7tDuqpEfSM2XkKzlzeiKt4zR1MLsLsrcJOhMYSTomWSRnwIgX rB7hXZk2w8K9kxmSrMZH7FFBF8FdPQsHJtpt4LI9d4ky905lGxwiRKDkSlVN1AMLBH vdieLxHL4FfhdY7pjBZmYI215gH21CRaB2VnUTUGTOffo1B0wufYrwikyscUS8pRez kafGfrRvSdBbdYsJlJoeHuL/rrVc6LyFQsdOKbe19HicqlXUw0d73WMVeUj457UjNm q86CzFRk4KIxyD2uD25VgqTg5yN322Rkr8wHj6/XyI8YEF5aUzfUBUqDFIN8gZdLDs pB9Jx38bRYeLw== Subject: Re: [Mg-t] =?utf-8?q?Wind_Wings=2C_waste_of_money=3F?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net They reduce turbs a little, but not much. They limit the water pouring around the windshield, though! Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Bob Donahue" To: "mg-t" Subject: [Mg-t] Wind Wings, waste of money? Date: Mon, Aug 19, 2013 4:01 pm I bought a set of Wind Wings for my TD. I have to say I'm not impressed. I still had to stick an ear plug in my left ear to protect my eardrum. Are these things a complete waste of money? I set the wings for a 45 degree angle, like the instructions said. Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) Email - bobmgtd@comcast.net Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 Member: NEMGTR #11470 NAMGBR # 7-3336 Hoosier MGB Club Olde Octagons of Indiana ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 19 17:35:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D50B40447 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:35:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f53.google.com (mail-vb0-f53.google.com [209.85.212.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DCE140323 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:35:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f53.google.com with SMTP id i3so3554204vbh.26 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 16:35:33 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=23vwl6iYcWU+SShOWv5tqmZ6UM+cZ2gQpICjhPwJnss=; b=LZZCnUfcIhOSJojTce04XkQCLmc3HzL5mr48P9XfNSSJISOGrhpeHXdCvNcPyUqXhi ngxsK7v/lWNUeS6N/CvvJg6IGpD9NnOsZsmViXF/y0skfIWN84NmsKtaghGra6hTsFwy 8w7LjA3I3/Bklcn8V56pN7ZKrx0zHtf5WxjRfv4pfOix+oFH6jJfZr2pJBTudPCcWrQC b9UZ+QuzBM7NyowDSs9DkxwEN6hcPbw4LikmSGrjs2sDF2dN+sixhwd0ge+VovMh+oBe dkDJ3fAy7/rKDawSYpzybxiYt52Zvu6/NSiH5yqQioWB0+PPCn4VvD6yjbyr8uDQDuA6 q2NA== s12mr306398vdj.36.1376955333747; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 16:35:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.72.129 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 16:35:33 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 19:35:33 -0400 From: MARK SHERMAN To: Bob Donahue , MG Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Wind Wings, waste of money? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Bob: If the wind wings are not making a difference, you are not going fast enough! Mark Sherman On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Bob Donahue wrote: > I bought a set of Wind Wings for my TD. I have to say I'm not impressed. I > still had to stick an ear plug in my left ear to protect my eardrum. Are > these > things a complete waste of money? I set the wings for a 45 degree angle, > like > the instructions said. > > Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) > Email - bobmgtd@comcast.net > Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 > 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 > Member: NEMGTR #11470 > NAMGBR # 7-3336 > Hoosier MGB Club > Olde Octagons of Indiana > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/mrkshrmn@hotmail.com > > > -- Mark Sherman ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 19 18:37:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F8A403C8 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:37:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ye0-f175.google.com (mail-ye0-f175.google.com [209.85.213.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58133403C8 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:37:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ye0-f175.google.com with SMTP id m9so1079537yen.20 for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:37:15 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=7bqKWmf4YN+4nlLU9hhdABwvE6SixNR3On9w9DME+Yc=; b=KWwSLBIvQovGCImpHFGi18TX+u8FcO4InZLfukgxqS1OMhNuyG2CZ0qOzkzj0wo6bE 2QcYl1kMChUmrDhDvNvSDbDcBuDY9Um3CIRKs93lhEr5hK+qEhGv4FwAVurhP+e4bqLC aYRrPkJsXPGswn6wq2VWeJ9+APuEGCVoD6Jw6SXfbF0O+5Bn5qy6OmUFHbiBRNR2FwN9 wcJoy4Go+oFflrSvCeF4KPj8NMU6u9C3liYA+6F1cEYHf56Soer4Z0LMM0upJU3SvrVq AxzTMHmYQQaqpoR9rLe+P+AGlrShIKKFGCec/ZRBWDBiX1fmd4ICW4wbsj5Gd5KJ06Uk fRKw== w17mr16426941yhj.34.1376959035228; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:37:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2600:1015:b001:adf7:8c73:62b1:cb6e:e0ce? ([2600:1015:b001:adf7:8c73:62b1:cb6e:e0ce]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e65sm17126372yhc.18.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:37:11 -0400 From: Rick Lindsay To: mrkshrmn@hotmail.com, bobmgtd@comcast.net, Mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Wind Wings, waste of money? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net I ordered a new set (from Moss), not so much to deflect wind but rather, to cover holes and scratches where the old wings came off. -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. -------- Original message -------- From: MARK SHERMAN Date: 08/19/2013 7:35 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Bob Donahue ,MG Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Wind Wings, waste of money? Bob: If the wind wings are not making a difference, you are not going fast enough! Mark Sherman On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Bob Donahue wrote: > I bought a set of Wind Wings for my TD. I have to say I'm not impressed. I > still had to stick an ear plug in my left ear to protect my eardrum. Are > these > things a complete waste of money? I set the wings for a 45 degree angle, > like > the instructions said. > > Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) > Email - bobmgtd@comcast.net > Cars:B B B B B B 52 MGTD - #17639 >B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 > Member:B NEMGTR #11470 >B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B NAMGBR # 7-3336 >B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B Hoosier MGB Club >B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B Olde Octagons of Indiana > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donationB $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/mrkshrmn@hotmail.com > > > -- Mark Sherman ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 19 18:46:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9944006C for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:46:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DE14006C for ; Mon, 19 Aug 2013 18:46:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Eo1X1m00D0SCNGk58om6Ps; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 00:46:06 +0000 Received: from GenePC ([65.96.195.105]) by omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Eom51m01a2GusAh3Vom65f; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 00:46:06 +0000 From: "Gene" To: References: <8m9gcswcpn8bx9mofuyhiymj.1376959031327@email.android.com> Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 20:46:06 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6dPXyjLFv/VYxERraqyVF91pUp/QAARWvA Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1376959566; bh=QOQMn8EbvDZf2gIOn/w5iTdYxs7FSR0D6bW/ByzfgOA=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=WaBrBpP/oewbC+hezLJdda6AXQgvx5kR8CUwoj3NRPIrz69LxD2sV9eCV2KMMFYrg 4tTQZUKo86WUbkLv3RWrycFTtXiq3ap0SMdwa5U03lepZsoSkFXEau3rYlnDTMtbts KyClK+A3nuwqmInCbQg5ymNF6UPGX/zE+TVfUySFyGw6VAkng3qR3EYsUXanKRiKb4 75RkCkXwW4Nygom771N8vG6ANpTPvsiySMZCqOtDJqxFaPLMlmMwODUJDZndnU4hby S8CsgV2sKbACCNWYTv3FzjaCiBvtb2CXNpjBhfjQlt7adtb1uprsalbZ9M2AImTJaB K4ye6w3qWBfKQ== Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Wind Wings, waste of money? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net They are great for holding club decals -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Lindsay Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 8:37 PM To: mrkshrmn@hotmail.com; bobmgtd@comcast.net; Mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Wind Wings, waste of money? I ordered a new set (from Moss), not so much to deflect wind but rather, to cover holes and scratches where the old wings came off. -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. -------- Original message -------- From: MARK SHERMAN Date: 08/19/2013 7:35 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Bob Donahue ,MG Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Wind Wings, waste of money? Bob: If the wind wings are not making a difference, you are not going fast enough! Mark Sherman On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Bob Donahue wrote: > I bought a set of Wind Wings for my TD. I have to say I'm not > impressed. I still had to stick an ear plug in my left ear to protect > my eardrum. Are these things a complete waste of money? I set the > wings for a 45 degree angle, like the instructions said. > > Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) > Email - bobmgtd@comcast.net > Cars:B B B B B B 52 MGTD - #17639 >B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 Member:B NEMGTR >#11470 B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B NAMGBR # 7-3336 B B B B B B B B B >B B B B B B Hoosier MGB Club B B B B B B B B B B B B B B B Olde >Octagons of Indiana ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donationB > $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/mrkshrmn@hotmail.com > > > -- Mark Sherman ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/richardolindsay@gmail.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/crownwheel@comcast.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 08:57:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA1C403E2 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 08:57:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc3-s9.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s9.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41EDC403D7 for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 08:55:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU177-W28 ([65.55.116.73]) by blu0-omc3-s9.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 20 Aug 2013 07:55:49 -0700 From: Mike E To: WBEECH , Bob Donahue Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 10:55:48 -0400 References: , <0409129B-61DB-4BB5-ACCB-DF0B44842CE5@flash.net> FILETIME=[5BE97130:01CE9DB5] Cc: "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Wind Wings, waste of money? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Me too. I have a pair of OEM (I think) wind wings for my TF. It's still windy in the cockpit, but the wind doesn't blow the contact lens out of my left eye. It's a much more pleasant drive. If you're looking to substantially pare down the wind, you might investigate the use of wind wings with one of those wind blockers behind the seats. I haven't been in a car with that setup, but I understand it makes a big difference. The other, more traditional but less fun alternative is to drive with side curtains up and top down. It's really quite nice inside the cockpit with the side curtains on, but somehow it detracts from the enjoyment. And the view. -Mike Eldred Wilmington, VT > From: wbeech@flash.net > Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 17:27:44 -0500 > To: bobmgtd@comcast.net > CC: mg-t@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Wind Wings, waste of money? > > I have them on my Triumph, I can sure tell a difference. Still windy but not > so much in you face. > > Bill > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 19, 2013, at 4:01 PM, "Bob Donahue" wrote: > > > I bought a set of Wind Wings for my TD. I have to say I'm not impressed. I > > still had to stick an ear plug in my left ear to protect my eardrum. Are > these > > things a complete waste of money? I set the wings for a 45 degree angle, > like > > the instructions said. > > > > Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) > > Email - bobmgtd@comcast.net > > Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 > > 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 > > Member: NEMGTR #11470 > > NAMGBR # 7-3336 > > Hoosier MGB Club > > Olde Octagons of Indiana > > ______________________________________________ > > > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/wbeech@flash.net > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/redscirocco@hotmail.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 19:11:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1DE40433 for ; 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20 Aug 2013 18:18:14 -0700 PDT From: "pops502" To: Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:18:23 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] Brake line fittings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net I am having a problem re assembling the metal brake lines at the front tee.The tubing nut has a shoulder area before the threads start.Has anyone had a problem with this shoulder becoming slightly flared preventing it from being reassembled? Can the area be touched up carefully with a file? Al ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 20 20:04:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555764272F for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 20:04:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55753403DA for ; Tue, 20 Aug 2013 19:55:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FAH21m0080Fqzac56Dvaiz; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 01:55:34 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([98.237.116.198]) by omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FDvZ1m00B4GubUa3UDvZbW; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 01:55:34 +0000 Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:55:30 -0400 From: Charlie Baldwin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: mg-t@autox.team.net References: <2F4E4D3FF7714941A3C90E0278A9DE4D@popsHP> s=q20121106; t=1377050134; bh=wSP8JsqscQSqOsknc/x17g0/gVmhOS1x0NGvLyCPN9U=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=gzTD++l0TfM+9qVS3EpRCi6nWwDQclf8S9AXhhDmRkMRYPAZ5XBJL8OdZGoV79Yc0 GmwzBdJhL0p5t+hTcEx1reoPWJQAQgqmoxugBFKVmESrHal4Xe1NpQe1qzuq2pkUBq fYy6s4AQ/9dJXaCjKFw6Z8gKgqHlpkPnY36aZX6JgVgiV5bEtRvUIWsbubAjrXjYOH VPuzFRsBWaSu9n5NoA1aEIedSnCoxZ2r7ceUt8GqbjidcuVR020yuOvRfSNtWYUO8B e6cL24AqqldTDF2C2ANCDVoVSjFFdP35MKTF4Mb42b5TPSMUsyMmUdING2K4vrzuBA GqNKMl2Awj6gw== Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Brake line fittings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Al, That is a common problem. Sometimes they don't want to come apart because of that happening. When making new lines, I have reused the original nuts and ground them down so that they fit correctly in place. And touching them up with a file should hurt nothing, though make sure that you get it nice and clean before reassembling. Charlie On 8/20/2013 9:18 PM, pops502 wrote: > I am having a problem re assembling the metal brake lines at the front tee.The > tubing nut has a shoulder area before the threads start.Has anyone had a > problem with this shoulder becoming slightly flared preventing it from being > reassembled? Can the area be touched up carefully with a file? > Al > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/mgcharlie@comcast.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 21 07:22:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6716740452 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 07:22:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C58140324 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 07:18:25 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=DTwbIdlwYrOZi/M+1vvPgPRq4H76mkajobYshlKKtVc2KMK+WI0xYrIC1Fpcy2Id; h=Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [108.80.76.210] (helo=[192.168.1.33]) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VC8Iq-00077z-Uc; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 09:18:25 -0400 From: John Seim Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 06:18:24 -0700 References: <2F4E4D3FF7714941A3C90E0278A9DE4D@popsHP> To: pops502 Cc: Mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Brake line fittings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Touch them up lightly with a file. The seal is what looks like an inverted funnel, to the double flare of the tubing. The steel tubing nut is there just to push the double flare against the fitting. Overtightening of the tube nut is what causes the tube nut end to mushroom. John Seim Irvine, CA On Aug 20, 2013, at 6:18 PM, pops502 wrote: > I am having a problem re assembling the metal brake lines at the front tee.The > tubing nut has a shoulder area before the threads start.Has anyone had a > problem with this shoulder becoming slightly flared preventing it from being > reassembled? Can the area be touched up carefully with a file? > Al > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/kingseim@earthlink.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 22 20:13:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492D140539 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:13:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FEF74041C for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:13:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FzaW1m0030mv7h0512DVWj; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 02:13:29 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.105] ([69.137.94.144]) by omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id G2DU1m00w36tVd93X2DVB2; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 02:13:29 +0000 Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 19:13:24 -0700 From: Glenn Schnittke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: mg-t@autox.team.net References: s=q20121106; t=1377224009; bh=suk96jYaEEUMW2k7ji5bh2bxv5tvaWjjotYU3+U3218=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=pZdE1AUJ08ELp5ZNDSmHHtsvP4ICsUJaASZ4sdx/5x7mvB4FFJDhMFG8hsvUKKBBI dUL5lg5QX+3VNnMlzz44dNO+W9X7DuhRLenfYy0YfdFRfpvViZ/fkVrmWJGUjXFdkc DW36qhhK9jGTd4MP0yYMHV5Bf3SwrvqbLFnwvJ4JTGt5Ve344UHNGBt1Jj0YSAd61i g9EivBIDdUoKud2j3hX9EJbP+d8vTBP/ubhHjTwZsjC8zLaFkn0J3kGtJQEuNK03ze 2O+TRU3s5AGnx1hJ+z8vc5fCFbuTOGSI/aLrMIz85JAnvZjwdKKb0lrZ2Pte02aWQ4 /IoPF6b5iminA== Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Mg-t Digest, Vol 7, Issue 131 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Yes and yes. I've used files and belt sanders which are much quicker, but you need a steady hand to keep your fingers in the shape that God intended them to be. <;^) Ham-fisted mechanics. Glenn On 8/21/2013 11:00 AM, mg-t-request@autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:18:23 -0400 > From: "pops502" > To: > Subject: [Mg-t] Brake line fittings > Message-ID: <2F4E4D3FF7714941A3C90E0278A9DE4D@popsHP> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I am having a problem re assembling the metal brake lines at the front tee.The > tubing nut has a shoulder area before the threads start.Has anyone had a > problem with this shoulder becoming slightly flared preventing it from being > reassembled? Can the area be touched up carefully with a file? > Al ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 23 14:47:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA4F4040A for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:47:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f173.google.com (mail-ob0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B978403EF for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 14:47:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id ta17so1170877obb.4 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:47:32 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=NNslqNbjVzK8VvoFCXC4PuXzaC5sFbUZ6upB3mf11xA=; b=QqIAlGl9Z41SwEuag9MbhnVVi96+a1uPunHLzG7DWYfUFBbd/6sz064sxBs/cQxoPV h7Fn/l1xSeMN1HhSgo+IbNselixhR7jsrbEX45pO4fn3EfGvzzTaRiIAAu2cAv594E91 x3g8mmvIEcdgVzsX6Cy4i6Zdl4bvaYeEyN/ajXgpUtmEFMXGK0iA5opAFBVVAeftETXj v1C3wHRcyxvFdzeT3q2fqESe0TCDSGkFhP8y3GuV3U8JQQMZtd6gbtUSt6qwJM8jS/Wh 1Kx78JV2J5eI3gO4AgwUwb1h3zafGwINRl4wpemETRy1wHrGUspinvupk6yI96gugMBF ZwEg== a10mr1340714oed.53.1377290852618; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ru3sm1587648obc.2.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 15:47:28 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Installing head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends. I have always installed head gaskets clean and dry, but the workshop manual for the XPAG says it can be 'greased' before installation. I've never read that anywhere before! What do you do? -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 23 16:48:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 532BF40538 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 16:48:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from smtp103.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (smtp103.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.221.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 153934038C for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 16:48:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 62854 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2013 22:48:41 -0000 s=s1024; t=1377298121; bh=wVZLJefekJg7seb1GbWO4vjAVKFTgZtthND1IdhCHDk=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:Reply-to:Message-ID:Priority:In-reply-to:References:X-mailer:Content-type:Content-transfer-encoding:Content-description; b=EDjz6T/sp7vExp3/DyoQkm+nTzjYlv53dF3rClbWN8yR/RzOAW671z9519eAFODJ4ehvW6RpUNuuKfB9Gig3jBTkJMJj23ABp2mySnXMQaT8HJSVmSAc7OgTOmPz9qk7BXnQtxGcgyG745RJZDEP5MLW3ajPRgqWfM8i6BTpDMs= vnkK1q7Mt.EdWMeuO0egkZqLkAT7R2phX.AqhH4h6SQFSOYPUreUePGDeyxG lOGgLbb2wO8HFdls1_B67Cq1gFzRSBimibokhRkgx3E6ui_JIgsyI9UR1wVG QbQie3ilDFm0PG6cii8UeN2ny2p8ALYqjQSMMvLdnfokjTX5O9MCFDAmzrKk Aqafvuh.bLm0AfU2euG7ygIQJ6sVO2340rmC38S0PW2wlWBkngUrzzqpsOTZ hXP7XcDFLGqUHLqYWUf7g_rAgEvY_BW9B0jDBsbudAwviUiC9UNfoff6rhbY aaIXxEGR2vXL42KZTnoel6e1U3XQOGGHBbGrIU6qtNWUgSQgYelBwRVswjlv pwr2VhAQXXkKrsB20te7JD6JaBjfayBjXB6M1VNXg8yBLvztPw6lj0ZIMqCJ E29GUq7lBv8OK7pAJ.4XOafwLVzEVNw6sDXd8m7_nZlnq4Ihx4Rf2eOpHV_l aEa9jIDBTNDSC52xEzd2CNflXYGhZoXOJ39xGW3x7r7mqMKhFUb_lt.2Eiy5 Qp29AFns4 smtp103.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Aug 2013 15:48:41 -0700 PDT From: "Bill Traill" To: mg-t@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 16:47:55 -0700 Priority: normal References: Content-description: Mail message body Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Installing head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Rick, Yes...use a light-type general purpose grease and a very thin coating; a thin coating as grease is incompressible and blobs and gobs may keep the head from seating 100%. This will help the gasket ease into it's new life. Also, clean the studs so no detritus is scraped off to fall under the gasket and create a pocket. Clean all block and head surfaces to metal. Check the studs by pinching with thumb and finger full length to see if the studs are stretching (especially the threads). I am sure your TD has had the head replaced many times over the years and the studs don't last forever. Bill Traill Santa Clara, California ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 24 03:07:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FB734040A for ; Sat, 24 Aug 2013 03:07:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-2.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-2.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC7B94038B for ; Sat, 24 Aug 2013 03:07:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cypress ([86.8.152.135]) by know-smtprelay-2-imp with bizsmtp id GZ7a1m00B2vXtG601Z7aoM; Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:07:34 +0100 a=uObrxnre4hsA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=ErTaclt8kxMA:10 a=mPMb3gRUAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=mdrKhzZgMnXPiEWPN_0A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=LfqPKTIudC0A:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=gxAbwFLC1S4lpMOb:21 a=TGQrvz0wOKHfYi-p:21 a=PwYPgAp4zzY326Yfju+9Og==:117 From: "Clive Sherriff" To: , References: <5217F4AB.23142.1EC5700@bill.clovermachine.com> Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 10:07:32 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Installing head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net That's right, and also don't forget to then run the engine for 15 minutes, let it cool, then tighten down the head again once the grease has evened out and the gasket has settled for the first time. Do tighten again after about a hundred or so miles too. Clive Oxford, UK. = ================================ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Traill" To: Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 12:47 AM Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Installing head > Rick, > > Yes...use a light-type general purpose grease and a very thin > coating; a thin coating as grease is incompressible and blobs and > gobs may keep the head from seating 100%. This will help the gasket > ease into it's new life. > > Also, clean the studs so no detritus is scraped off to fall under the > gasket and create a pocket. Clean all block and head surfaces to > metal. Check the studs by pinching with thumb and finger full length > to see if the studs are stretching (especially the threads). I am > sure your TD has had the head replaced many times over the years and > the studs don't last forever. > > Bill Traill > Santa Clara, California > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/clive.sherriff@ntlworld.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 26 16:47:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D5B40414 for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:47:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from dub0-omc2-s21.dub0.hotmail.com (dub0-omc2-s21.dub0.hotmail.com [157.55.1.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFD94403EA for ; Mon, 26 Aug 2013 16:46:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DUB119-DS6 ([157.55.1.136]) by dub0-omc2-s21.dub0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 26 Aug 2013 15:46:54 -0700 From: "David" To: Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 23:46:57 +0100 FILETIME=[293FA850:01CEA2AE] Subject: [Mg-t] TD front brake plate Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello, Ibm rebuilding the front axle assemble at present. Does any-one have a photograph of the front brake plate showing the correct way round? There a few permutations available and unfortunately the chap who removed them cannot remember the correct position. Thank you David ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 27 07:03:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A0E406A4 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 07:03:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from out02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (out02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net [199.224.80.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBEAB403E9 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 07:03:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from relay02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net ([199.224.80.245]) by out02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net with ESMTP; 27 Aug 2013 13:03:53 +0000 Received: from localhost (filter04.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net [199.224.80.234]) by relay02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D5E4A0F6; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:03:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net ([199.224.80.246]) by localhost (filter04.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net [199.224.80.234]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id nvZIBBG6gPMD; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:03:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from valuedea617bbe (plns-199-224-109-61-pppoe.dsl.plns.epix.net [199.224.109.61]) by relay03.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 889309412C; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:03:46 +0000 (UTC) From: "Carr&Edwards" To: "David" , References: Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 09:03:44 -0400 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] TD front brake plate Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net If my memory serves me right, they are stamped LH and RH (I have a pair out in the shed I can look at if necessary). Remember that the wheel cylinders go on pointing in opposite directions--the one toward the front points downward (i.e., the piston falls out when the shoes are removed). Sarah Carr TD3942EXLU (owned for 40 years) Pennsylvania, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" To: Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 6:46 PM Subject: [Mg-t] TD front brake plate > Hello, > Ibm rebuilding the front axle assemble at present. Does any-one have a > photograph of the front brake plate showing the correct way round? > There a few permutations available and unfortunately the chap who removed > them > cannot remember the correct position. > Thank you > David ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 27 07:08:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F93403E9 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 07:08:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DAD403E9 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 07:08:40 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=nwS2ro8zOrMkUvXBmRZ5W21kZHLPcDfysv8OSHlQyaTGDxuBspbCuTtlI0AsvqQ1; h=Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [99.186.194.234] (helo=[192.168.1.33]) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VEJ0h-00067O-Nu; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 09:08:39 -0400 From: John Seim Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 06:08:38 -0700 References: To: David Cc: MG-T Group Subject: Re: [Mg-t] TD front brake plate Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Front brake backing plates really don't matter that much. Slots for brake cylinders are vertical. 3 o'clock & 9 o'clock positions. There is a hole in the backing plate, near the center. How you position the backing plate on one side, do same on other side. Cannot remember the way the plate looks right now. If hole can be put top or bottom, put to top on both sides. If hole can be put front or back, place to back on both sides. Rear brake backing plates are marked L/H and R/H. As the brake cylinder moves in the slot, I believe that there is some arc to the slot. If you switch the rear plates, you can have the rear brake cylinder bind in the slot. Will wear only one of the two brake shoes. John Seim Irvine, CA USA On Aug 26, 2013, at 3:46 PM, David wrote: > Hello, > Ibm rebuilding the front axle assemble at present. Does any-one have a > photograph of the front brake plate showing the correct way round? > There a few permutations available and unfortunately the chap who removed them > cannot remember the correct position. > Thank you > David > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/kingseim@earthlink.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 27 10:05:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBCDE40534 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:05:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA89B40405 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:05:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.73]) by qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HpVk1m0031ap0As5As51v3; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 16:05:01 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([98.229.243.26]) by omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Hs511m00M0atUmS3is51oH; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 16:05:01 +0000 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 12:05:02 -0400 From: Bud Krueger User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/23.0 SeaMonkey/2.20 To: David , mg-t@autox.team.net References: s=q20121106; t=1377619501; bh=upK72S1C0aNK7zV4jSEjvfM9wa8BcfDQZIU/mXO53nY=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=ZXhGwsg3h3Gb1QOEtCg2uxft5uTvlAAN7Z5ql0HL4KnzExhJvPb1DZ47YrZrzaFun deLi2O4i6aRIKs7T/VkF+XooV5zZlP7LixtZqBT1ycaQw4pohtO4nrFaq8S1gBb/SO taeRZbGatEHFUlZVL7HbcOnbqQlAyAdsTQCTb4P2ORlyV4Pna2DTs5hQyjgGLx3+8D TyfW+8OGQUghNH8ccDVNpcNcdu11SsJW2+InRtDDOBk3/WPeujKjOzx7yFT8R/cj+Q 3HmF4m3tpvucTCrSr3T2vBIQxmZ0v4cHoKzXWdD+ZQJElfc7jHhOFgErAX8diZhLrX 2Az3xQokSjvBw== Subject: Re: [Mg-t] TD front brake plate Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net David, the backing plates are 'faced'. You should find the letters 'RH' and 'LH' stamped into them. See http://www.dbraun99.com/mgtd15470/Brakes/slides/Left%20Front%20Brake%20Shoes%20installed.html for a great series of images. Bud Krueger David wrote: > Hello, > Ibm rebuilding the front axle assemble at present. Does any-one have a > photograph of the front brake plate showing the correct way round? > There a few permutations available and unfortunately the chap who removed them > cannot remember the correct position. > Thank you > David > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/budkrueger@comcast.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 27 15:39:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFD4406A3 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:39:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E572640522 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:37:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id wo10so5795797obc.27 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:37:31 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=wsOHS3IC/qwDTliLJTAx9XftRzooUjelfac/cl9dfT4=; b=aBQ9zdggGSCp8q0W1WEDUFnGjjG8MO8lbRUSUjGfm4V3zcQLBn0w2GqCxTxlvP8jnP +rLVUam+WqonY2s6kV+5Scn0Q7GfHzQoYonOHnGY52S3pIt0DGrJ8h6Hg9nmxSMFnXyv 8GzSQ5gtrzJSPO2jX73+mU3KbAczSQJPEarS+cFt1XaDoSC2fPLnZ7O0m/s2xm8PtBHa id6DN1sGJgqSJYpyy3as68bhXjVOBtQNptVOh/meW5uc/042AUkuHM1pkpQhw62Z7yAf 1UQjyaWry/l2KaMvpSFwktSkr6I8IvcPRi/NTqeB3FDN+aU8ndmGChskYWbyEL3YZerO ijbw== th1mr10867836igb.25.1377639451823; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.225.67 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.225.67 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:37:31 +0100 From: Geoff Rawlings To: MG-TABC Group , mg-t Subject: [Mg-t] Old lessons learnt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Following on from a recent thread I remember rushing to get Penny's TC at least roadworty for the Ards TT celebrations some years ago. It was a runner, but only just. No resto work, just get it running and legal. Anyway, on the day it was very hot and she (the TC, not Penny) would start up fine, idle and drive slowly. However, whenever we tried to accelerate or put any real load on the motor, it would start to run very rough. Lots of head scratching and new plugs, leads, rotor, fuel pump checked and even fresh petrol had no satisfactory result. It was a chum, Mike Wilson who turned up and suggested the condenser. Out came the brand new one and back in went what might the original one. It worked perfectly and is still there. Lesson learnt, new stuff isn't always best! Cheers, Geoff Rawlings Temporarily at: 97 Downshire Road, Holywood, BT18 9LY www.Going-the-Extra-Mile.com No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number if electrons were terribly inconvenienced! tel: +44 (0) 28-9042-5564 mob: +44 (0) 78-6048-7932 skype: Geoff_Rawlings ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 27 15:42:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D12F406AD for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:42:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from dub0-omc2-s36.dub0.hotmail.com (dub0-omc2-s36.dub0.hotmail.com [157.55.1.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E844940522 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:41:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DUB119-DS5 ([157.55.1.137]) by dub0-omc2-s36.dub0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:41:57 -0700 From: "David" To: Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:42:03 +0100 FILETIME=[415829B0:01CEA36E] Subject: [Mg-t] Brake back plates Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 27 15:46:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD4340E30 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:46:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from dub0-omc2-s27.dub0.hotmail.com (dub0-omc2-s27.dub0.hotmail.com [157.55.1.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF9D4003F for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 15:46:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DUB119-DS21 ([157.55.1.137]) by dub0-omc2-s27.dub0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:46:47 -0700 From: "David" To: Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:46:52 +0100 FILETIME=[EE100380:01CEA36E] Subject: [Mg-t] Brake back plates Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello, Thanks to all who responded. I have found VERY faint stamping on one back plate saying RH. By omission the other one must be LH. Ibll fit them them and the brakes and have them tested on a rolling road brake test BEFORE driving! Once again, thank you. [from Scotland} ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 27 23:31:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9885A40431 for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 23:31:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail3.everyone.net [216.200.145.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B154038B for ; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 23:31:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta004.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r7S5SakL031643; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:31:40 -0700 Received: by m0005297.mta.everyone.net (EON-PICKUP) id m0005297.520b10f2.1ef21; Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:31:40 -0700 Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:31:40 -0700 From: "Dave & Liz DuBois" To: "Geoff Rawlings" engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-08-28_01:2013-08-28,2013-08-27,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=8 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1308270233 Cc: mg-tabc@egroups.com, mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Old lessons learnt Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Capacitors (condensers) usually fail shortly after installing them. If the survive the first few hours, they normally last nearly forever. I was told by a wise older car enthusiast that when replacing points, to look at the points and if there is no (or very little) material transfer from one contact to the other, the existing capacitor is matched very closely to the system in which it is installed (capacitors for autos generally have a tolerance of 20%, meaning that it can be 20% under or over stated value) and should not be changed. I have lived with that admonition and never changed the capacitor in our TD since we purchased it in 1974. Cheers, Dave --- geoff.rawlings@gmail.com wrote: From: Geoff Rawlings To: MG-TABC Group , mg-t Subject: [Mg-t] Old lessons learnt Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2013 22:37:31 +0100 Following on from a recent thread I remember rushing to get Penny's TC at least roadworty for the Ards TT celebrations some years ago. It was a runner, but only just. No resto work, just get it running and legal. Anyway, on the day it was very hot and she (the TC, not Penny) would start up fine, idle and drive slowly. However, whenever we tried to accelerate or put any real load on the motor, it would start to run very rough. Lots of head scratching and new plugs, leads, rotor, fuel pump checked and even fresh petrol had no satisfactory result. It was a chum, Mike Wilson who turned up and suggested the condenser. Out came the brand new one and back in went what might the original one. It worked perfectly and is still there. Lesson learnt, new stuff isn't always best! Cheers, Geoff Rawlings Temporarily at: 97 Downshire Road, Holywood, BT18 9LY www.Going-the-Extra-Mile.com No trees were killed in the sending of this message, but a large number if electrons were terribly inconvenienced! tel: +44 (0) 28-9042-5564 mob: +44 (0) 78-6048-7932 skype: Geoff_Rawlings ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive