From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 2 14:07:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1968640422 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 14:07:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f175.google.com (mail-vc0-f175.google.com [209.85.220.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CF640408 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 14:07:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id ht10so3655936vcb.6 for ; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 13:05:52 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TAFzEEF62Pqkplw2lWIeVKBG3yZOvUDa09upxGJbzTo=; b=CL6jn0lXesn88gUYIAyjWytExOYEZCJIR7mLKNbfbLeE+cWJCUl2X6OEIIT8yJUzaY AHVXQgJN5m2WgA8CpCuVajfrrpB0IU3OdMdejJtx84iYEWTVMKCBWvP9CdG2PoLkzeN9 7jlOsuS9n6ecRsGMwkrhnmPC4yvNsjOUG1iHcT4lTkzeV2JaWvNp5pj2j4soN6VNi9mL e634zRKUafrjP5c058kO6DG+XXXfk3d5Owx3FqEt+m9vMGjy7kTABDaSg/iwYJEL/mpa gupD5KkCl7TwVJ4s4hcMG00jGd/gbO7S5BEw97TiIHy8VnoN/TWbWQoblu3oq7TuxxcU h86Q== Sat, 02 Nov 2013 13:05:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.152.174 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 13:05:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:05:52 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: [Mg-t] Lift-a-dot, etc. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Gang, I'm trying to find the correct 'pegs' for the TD tonneau cover and top, but Moss doesn't list them. If my count is correct, the car needs four (4) pegs with nuts below, and eleven (11) pegs with wood screw studs. Please tell me where one might find these parts - and the part numbers. Thanks. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 2 14:56:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B61C44041C for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 14:56:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gg0-f181.google.com (mail-gg0-f181.google.com [209.85.161.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7B340408 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 14:43:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-gg0-f181.google.com with SMTP id h1so2002763gga.40 for ; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 13:41:53 -0700 (PDT) h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=7Pz0jfz2OOfi3YzaDPz3oDUk0expDf1PNXV5Ao3bevc=; b=PB+1ZlomQlzKsYBjzNxCxJEqQw6vWCBeySu+KmPk5CPuScskwrTinfuWHSH+00/dus NREc/Kcxgc0gu9Z3vhLS0oDSwZ7Dwf4uhuf5+lT1I1hhXfH1AMoteFATReAOa9PMJHED Ia+prgrtz4QpHUnq7Lh9+O6yaMCer78N3cMXITTv3/fK2lUkOTzFbF6C+mumoXCsS+AS BHultaezREdNS6+/ttCz3oAcbZfEjUMfRI9gL6hyjJsw9Ecigwn3w8zzVpvzYcxyte6X tCb0os01jzZSZSP5Mb7lbGqidC8DldrcScHZpLXXOJHC0rNpBBkoNRyxiy1nYcv8Rc+O ojbw== r61mr799389yho.109.1383424913798; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 13:41:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.73] (108-218-54-124.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net. [108.218.54.124]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g25sm14585129yhg.6.2013.11.02.13.41.53 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 02 Nov 2013 13:41:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Truxtun Southworth Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 16:41:51 -0400 References: To: Richard Lindsay Cc: "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Lift-a-dot, etc. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Rick, Try Abingdon Spares (800) 225-0251 On Nov 2, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Richard Lindsay wrote: > Hey Gang, > > I'm trying to find the correct 'pegs' for the TD tonneau cover and > top, but Moss doesn't list them. > > If my count is correct, the car needs four (4) pegs with nuts below, > and eleven (11) pegs with wood screw studs. Please tell me where one > might find these parts - and the part numbers. Thanks. > > -rick > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/tuck.southworth@gmail.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 2 17:14:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E60240411 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 17:14:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy12-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (oproxy12-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [50.87.16.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0DCB24040B for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 17:08:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 14051 invoked by uid 0); 2 Nov 2013 20:19:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy12.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 2 Nov 2013 20:19:45 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=y6x3jFdBvRu+WrYeRwLM5ym7o6xo9q1V7TJCV0GD9i0=; b=T4drhg5r4LtO102YPXrgyR0lrihScBZCPQ4YC9gEZlJGfYpNyn41eGY0QzWFzYZ3YkQhjAmuMxn+yvplSmc0+QQFO1a1/sIePqhdSackdgXT2+VvITkkpipMHkhXBQWP; Received: from c-24-15-13-164.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([24.15.13.164]:29941 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vchfc-0007kc-At; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 14:19:44 -0600 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:19:34 -0500 From: Shop User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: mg-t@autox.team.net References: {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with shop@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Lift-a-dot, etc. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net I might have, Rick. Lemme know if you want me to check. Ed ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 3 05:59:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4359F40417 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2013 05:59:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB23403DD for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2013 05:44:45 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=XUd2P8Fi9A/9lGkQyosRO0pKJ03dXYYN8ngSdHKEBwHPyuIxXiq3C2o6RRpd2gfI; h=Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [99.17.30.108] (helo=[192.168.1.33]) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Vcx10-0006f7-Iv; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 07:42:50 -0500 From: John Seim Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 04:42:50 -0800 References: To: Richard Lindsay Cc: "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Lift-a-dot, etc. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Moss Motors 226-408. "LIFT-THE-DOT" Stud. Wood screw. 226-600. "LIFT-THE-DOT" Peg. 10/32 threads 310-040. NUT, for peg. Or, you can buy 10/32 Nylok nuts at the hardware store. John Seim Irvine, CA On Nov 2, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Richard Lindsay wrote: > Hey Gang, > > I'm trying to find the correct 'pegs' for the TD tonneau cover and > top, but Moss doesn't list them. > > If my count is correct, the car needs four (4) pegs with nuts below, > and eleven (11) pegs with wood screw studs. Please tell me where one > might find these parts - and the part numbers. Thanks. > > -rick > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/kingseim@earthlink.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 3 06:30:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310DA4041D for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2013 06:30:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118D4403DD for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2013 06:17:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta16.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.88]) by qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id l1EX1m0011uE5Es561FWCC; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 13:15:30 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([98.237.116.198]) by omta16.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id l1FV1m00W4GubUa3c1FWEn; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 13:15:30 +0000 Date: Sun, 03 Nov 2013 08:15:28 -0500 From: Charlie Baldwin User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 To: mg-t@autox.team.net References: <1EC66A41-EFBF-41B5-A91B-496B77CA0B48@earthlink.net> s=q20121106; t=1383484530; bh=mg5PnQDCFsthPKtUdO46gm68qbF9ZD9rdkXFXWAqYwU=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=bf766EGrSISKkaT2S0SHM57Us/tJ+PfTtzIeQlVjOeYGmtZIqv9w9zyaOq4742ORi 4vmm/C6NUvCLsBo2lseILm7TfH9pmDdSdl9Etalc7RTbbaMCfm8Y/Xlt31haPYayjS HIpEHriSW5B/cMOsHiUmmHlCkvMhAzjVV9C7dY41h8w34GaXiVA9pIfGZAh1e0HCJE QJy5rg41IAtW0fF/BE5xTed60//TJLmC+EgnDiTwVuPB3WlsLFPnqX500qq+WGzHz9 mPeCuIeQYaAqxMmwgHFCKTdogISd0DoTHr8K5KBKpsx136LPc7gRufj0rJsZr9Lv0L 8nlYW3YVOsI8g== Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Lift-a-dot, etc. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Rick, I thought it very strange that Moss would not have them. I know that the online catalogs sometimes make it difficult to find what you want, especially if you don't know the exact terminology to do a search. Here is some interesting information that they provide: http://www.mossmotors.com/graphics/products/PDF/241-220.pdf Charlie On 11/3/2013 7:42 AM, John Seim wrote: > Moss Motors > 226-408. "LIFT-THE-DOT" Stud. Wood screw. > 226-600. "LIFT-THE-DOT" Peg. 10/32 threads > 310-040. NUT, for peg. Or, you can buy 10/32 Nylok nuts at the hardware > store. > > John Seim > Irvine, CA > > On Nov 2, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Richard Lindsay wrote: > >> Hey Gang, >> >> I'm trying to find the correct 'pegs' for the TD tonneau cover and >> top, but Moss doesn't list them. >> >> If my count is correct, the car needs four (4) pegs with nuts below, >> and eleven (11) pegs with wood screw studs. Please tell me where one >> might find these parts - and the part numbers. Thanks. >> >> -rick >> ______________________________________________ ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 3 13:53:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61CE40423 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2013 13:53:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc1-s3.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s3.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350DE40398 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2013 13:42:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY178-W50 ([65.54.190.60]) by bay0-omc1-s3.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 3 Nov 2013 12:40:25 -0800 From: John Crawley To: Charlie Baldwin , "mg-t@autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 20:40:24 +0000 References: , <1EC66A41-EFBF-41B5-A91B-496B77CA0B48@earthlink.net>, <52764C70.3010706@comcast.net> FILETIME=[EC8A3530:01CED8D4] Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Lift-a-dot, etc. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi folks: Just thought that I would add my method of installing lift-the-dot studs. When you install them put a small dab of silicon in the hole before inserting the stud - wipe off excess after the stud is tight. Silicon waterproofs the metal body from moisture and helps prevent the stud from loosening. Also make a small rubber washer by punching out a hole in bicycle inner tube rubber the size of the base of the stud, then a smaller hole in the center for the screw to go through. This helps with waterproofing and also prevents the stud from cracking the paint when it is tightened down. Do not over tighten. Godspeed in Safety Fast Jc > Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 08:15:28 -0500 > From: mgcharlie@comcast.net > To: mg-t@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Lift-a-dot, etc. > > Rick, > > I thought it very strange that Moss would not have them. I know that > the online catalogs sometimes make it difficult to find what you want, > especially if you don't know the exact terminology to do a search. > Here is some interesting information that they provide: > http://www.mossmotors.com/graphics/products/PDF/241-220.pdf > > Charlie > > > On 11/3/2013 7:42 AM, John Seim wrote: > > Moss Motors > > 226-408. "LIFT-THE-DOT" Stud. Wood screw. > > 226-600. "LIFT-THE-DOT" Peg. 10/32 threads > > 310-040. NUT, for peg. Or, you can buy 10/32 Nylok nuts at the hardware > > store. > > > > John Seim > > Irvine, CA > > > > On Nov 2, 2013, at 1:05 PM, Richard Lindsay wrote: > > > >> Hey Gang, > >> > >> I'm trying to find the correct 'pegs' for the TD tonneau cover and > >> top, but Moss doesn't list them. > >> > >> If my count is correct, the car needs four (4) pegs with nuts below, > >> and eleven (11) pegs with wood screw studs. Please tell me where one > >> might find these parts - and the part numbers. Thanks. > >> > >> -rick > >> ______________________________________________ > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/alittlemoreink@hotmail.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 3 19:01:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F73F40512 for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2013 19:01:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f176.google.com (mail-ob0-f176.google.com [209.85.214.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53CB94040E for ; Sun, 3 Nov 2013 18:17:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ob0-f176.google.com with SMTP id uy5so6481198obc.7 for ; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 17:15:49 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=aJDJTFoDJ5O9roxtVRkBw0TZuN+rBi/Gi0xPqaQu6jU=; b=BcB8yQ8BNAw3ImuZ1po8qj1KVN7Q15H4DQMlCmkEVtzGL90lcpgErwKZej2anHSreQ pF/VFsnKArAX3IS9+/4t2EWTKGxRZeNmg5ENEScYWKH6ySnlglhQTiKAwUOlGlYJhhAu f561irNol2X66Ha/nvCB2GlLfo1itvXnO2EEmyoN7Vp1xUU2KxMNVG7EjBA9RVr0NZqu DigVjYWciJYRTg58OO6afb/7vDv2E3jJ57rlu+Rckr1CqE9fikQExGWgQTgO4njEAefp eXWr6ktpnw/ufT6f43rK3xn6UBi0CfZSO7cIUml53JWIWJI0riNZKPzkbIKjmswixVng UecQ== u4mr12157456obs.31.1383525988737; Sun, 03 Nov 2013 16:46:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.83.37 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Nov 2013 16:46:28 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.60.83.37 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Nov 2013 16:46:28 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 16:46:28 -0800 From: Barry Ryley To: Mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Studs 226-408 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Rick, see page 55 of the Moss parts book. When I replaced mine last Spring, I was able to purchase long ones that gave more bite into the wood, from my MG dealer. Cheers Barry ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 4 11:19:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D26642A14 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:19:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f176.google.com (mail-ve0-f176.google.com [209.85.128.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3184940439; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 10:46:03 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ve0-f176.google.com with SMTP id jx11so1647038veb.21 for ; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 09:44:11 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iYGfYczibasYWBsEG70MWVb4xN5X/DkFSvyD/gtBgmM=; b=TbYl/B2M8U7kVCt6bKDSxYj0MAmFFueHs2sNX+g07Vp1+jdCYtZyd2g7lcI0NUChE8 5YoKWNq8evfv3n3CMysT4mikcGAfLiTyKyqjBL681gNR9k6wHGmsZWRC19fus8HTv5Ze I59G4jun9TtG4NzGzF5cMUBmayWaACfGV5RztfC364z7GlZpIwiccQroNPhXWgDG+QzT 6HnUmT+bAh9Ei1BaPucUE3I+KE9mz7gR7ErL0TQvjPlY3zejCm5UyA1WuIIGuVfljBtH q05rGKXxNAxHik1BtpIVr7e2ugcO9RMSJahhlv25Z/qh+4/a2l9maYhXMNQ7uShcHcs3 j9YQ== as15mr10393225vdc.1.1383587050873; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 09:44:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.152.174 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 09:44:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:44:10 -0600 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Dash Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Almost ready for testing... http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131104_110010.jpg -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 5 06:33:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 467434317D for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 06:33:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f170.google.com (mail-ob0-f170.google.com [209.85.214.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8058B43035; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 06:16:57 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ob0-f170.google.com with SMTP id wp18so8558987obc.15 for ; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 05:15:01 -0800 (PST) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=wFzosR/4bin21KPxFniq5nkPeQzx1q8cZES9Y1cVaiU=; b=GHmOmlKZJP4wEMDuRREvgUrby8H2glxDhPeVAyK1rRhfBVyrh0F5hjqaTDBHhmU5ld VNSe6TnfZk2oXPdlO5KL4T+uBkqSYVICGZfHQmGjFiKJL/gmrydYWezzG/0QC67n/mop jFAFA5O4Q02cZg7uGBwO2pEU186ReQYiAxg9cJt7TjHCMXopTvwF+ComkFSmWy8kcp+V N/FPua+lV+6O2fs9q9GJhBaMNimhm794FA8b6yGlmhpF6sNHnDTQDaG46h4NnK+jHRku mmru4P9PjhIBzNVQnNbHwvcPjSGZL0qDAqlxe9CGjZqHzRPgO+0px2DKIVW5wrTi4I7X kVDg== Tue, 05 Nov 2013 05:15:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.68] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id dh4sm31418681obb.3.2013.11.05.05.15.00 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Nov 2013 05:15:00 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 07:14:57 -0600 From: Rick Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Gearbox oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, I write this morning requesting advice. I'm not far from starting the TD for the first time. My concern is for the gearbox oil. Should I, 1. Change the oil now and call it 'good'? 2. Change the oil now then change again after running a bit? 3. Leave the old, clean-looking oil in place, for now? 4. Idle the box in neutral until warm, using the old oil to 'clean' the insides, then change? 5. Some other plan? I'm a gearbox novice. Advice appreciated.B -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 5 08:11:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A574306F for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 08:11:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm13-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DED142FF5 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 07:48:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.196.81.163] by nm13.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Nov 2013 14:45:56 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.159] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Nov 2013 14:45:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp119.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Nov 2013 14:45:56 -0000 s=s1024; t=1383662756; bh=Qq4CiYiTf+8Lxde/S+4kSdpC6V2ngJU57IRJDP2EouU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=NzS7mXu+JI5vad8FuEZHRW+pgvlXuPzAJVdQvSM4lDAzK+gTQNxY/6XDdBMBvPqNI/Zk+6OprFNApWQfXlK3p6XZf7DDOM79AA3Q2YKgSsn8Eq3OBXS1D4wSjK5ugu3RN3pFSYv2YjT9MhZ9iOIBgTHTDuuRcXEAM6hw7E75PSQ= mFXWrKL41Hh1CEDO9MXKKBbl3mNGqDSV8kITEbYe0yfiKmpmdryoA1iV2ONV xMzcqrjYyZTozDQBgU5uWhxnrDIH9cB.O4KAuZdOm1y7ElF8Rq2h3TagaXxL kx.lcFBOOojjgKJxkWz9ISszVbOT2rg8VS81nI55HE0O7LiwsMzUYNw0.p7n MhibPxZ46kMO58VtHdkLG5MzLLMeDvtZRiGD060ighKBgd.H0.BCux0HWa39 haYKFzZTuCbyoJF0wpWdRUcKtfn3pE2HaOJ9VKuGTHclXv66W9Gq1tjIl2Xo yk0OP.MkKV0Uyy50.vZ5OOWxJcncqUWqo.IKIyAvSBW7uhHXG4CrOBqTdYN8 IPvjkxjzht4wcDpuiJfFCIhvSBk9ztP92YWPuGrAfXtaNp.rbQKa9xnPiJTY QIxAfRTzthwsRA4G4.UEFCqDFctx9iK5Kcm0VWgIBVNE2Oe_V2bDF27NfhgB dM_J0doVQFNptZz6.yFTXG65xv094ZMyB9RY7pPFM0aviYLDioyF7Kr4- smtp119.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 05 Nov 2013 14:45:56 +0000 UTC From: To: "'Rick Lindsay'" , , References: Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 08:45:48 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac7aK1qsuqmUZao+SKCTN3iuPJKcrwACBTpA Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Gearbox oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Depends.... A. If you re-built the gearbox during this project, I would run it for 200 miles and change it, just like the motor. B. If this is old oil, many years, then I would go ahead and change it now, after a short warm up. C. If you don't know the history of the gearbox and lube in it at all, then change it now and call it "good". Good questions that beg one more. What is the recommendation of The List on what lube to use for a TD gearbox? Moss catalog seems to be selling every fluid, oil and lube there is with the exception of gearbox lube. Personally, I would recommend Red Line MT90 (NFI), what does everyone else use? All the best, Bill -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Lindsay Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 7:15 AM To: mgs@autox.team.net; mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Gearbox oil Hello Friends, I write this morning requesting advice. I'm not far from starting the TD for the first time. My concern is for the gearbox oil. Should I, 1. Change the oil now and call it 'good'? 2. Change the oil now then change again after running a bit? 3. Leave the old, clean-looking oil in place, for now? 4. Idle the box in neutral until warm, using the old oil to 'clean' the insides, then change? 5. Some other plan? I'm a gearbox novice. Advice appreciated.B -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/wbeech@flash.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 5 08:51:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 119E9430A1 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 08:51:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f174.google.com (mail-wi0-f174.google.com [209.85.212.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDE443050 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 08:42:22 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id cb5so2295986wib.7 for ; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 07:40:25 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Q1bLi86j4mHzNW9Z/ok5bVXks9dniuXTniLMO0JqX1w=; b=cubBKdgf5i8xRchV/WH8rcgtKwqRQkQdmxEqvt6XYRjFMoZlHZMbxEwx8SfUPJj5pB qbKVQXj5e3AD3jwS+IB4DesMGrWzhkuzqGiJucATGBqPKUMOPht3D5vecugJLxqX5ap+ P0RELcymgFiRh19UjmMcYVDl1bgzFvINaXeqOqiNQeeHCB9NSAqJsHelXF/xD0Itad8L 9YVyfUeZHaafQzXcMnYaqDoqqTpRAwINOPFKfyhX5O3OYWF/Xs3kblehFjg9+RyIE6Hc h4tBzusK2veaQra0Z19ZsoNJ6lUvru6WHonqcYyiUI2YJkijeWoHUp3H3wB+XB+cCSO9 Nc3Q== pm6mr7352652wjc.47.1383666025342; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 07:40:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.135.18 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 07:40:25 -0800 (PST) References: <69574C6D6A42476DAF90CCA8B43177E3@bboffice> Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 10:40:25 -0500 From: Scott Allen To: wbeech@flash.net Cc: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Gearbox oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net I use Castrol or Valvoline 80w90. I tried to use Red Line, but both times, when I had occasion to remove the gearbox the clutch was covered in fluid. So, until they come up with a modern mainshaft seal that synthetic can't migrate past I'm sticking to old-fashioned dinosaur juice. ~Scott Allen '52 MGTD On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 9:45 AM, wrote: > Depends.... > > A. If you re-built the gearbox during this project, I would run it for 200 > miles and change it, just like the motor. > B. If this is old oil, many years, then I would go ahead and change it now, > after a short warm up. > C. If you don't know the history of the gearbox and lube in it at all, then > change it now and call it "good". > > Good questions that beg one more. What is the recommendation of The List > on > what lube to use for a TD gearbox? Moss catalog seems to be selling every > fluid, oil and lube there is with the exception of gearbox lube. > > Personally, I would recommend Red Line MT90 (NFI), what does everyone else > use? > > All the best, > Bill > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Rick Lindsay > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 7:15 AM > To: mgs@autox.team.net; mg-t@autox.team.net > Subject: [Mg-t] Gearbox oil > > Hello Friends, > > I write this morning requesting advice. > > I'm not far from starting the TD for the first time. My concern is for the > gearbox oil. Should I, > > 1. Change the oil now and call it 'good'? > > 2. Change the oil now then change again after running a bit? > > 3. Leave the old, clean-looking oil in place, for now? > > 4. Idle the box in neutral until warm, using the old oil to 'clean' the > insides, then change? > > 5. Some other plan? > > I'm a gearbox novice. Advice appreciated.B > > -rick > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/wbeech@flash.net > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/scottallen3663@gmail.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 9 17:34:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AEC440512 for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2013 17:34:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f170.google.com (mail-ob0-f170.google.com [209.85.214.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31184040B for ; Sat, 9 Nov 2013 17:34:19 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ob0-f170.google.com with SMTP id gq1so3014228obb.29 for ; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 16:32:02 -0800 (PST) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=zq71eUUCJpg18kRCvjrzwyynXpTVVM0ruf3nDYcUfmc=; b=1Hfne0y5poJ+EhajZTTNqycLpzZl9ywMdu0m4aK/OEMX0f9eILV7JC44+Pf61UpP2F oypXkrKbJ3C4wJZ4c5BolWhnGWnXPRQgW+wwcZsq1jk7uGm3Slm72fociDgd8+poL1QN njOfZrPNFs4RI3S8ZmdC8mtgh21Bkx5JSx97X1Mg/i921GPdsPrn1ea0v+ww3Opo35CV 65lFrO+6gOcvJSmPwnGsFNAF8twmrxKzB+TgXWhaUS18b/HpCHuSV025pjfCa1SonccQ 50ge/FNwWe+OrSsxhmhr8CrxMFrbQ3btar3My7qDEPJ05q+dHUqSn3qDCOG+shnJz8O1 pErg== wi2mr11458860oeb.35.1384043174988; Sat, 09 Nov 2013 16:26:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.68] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r3sm22427875oep.2.2013.11.09.16.26.13 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Nov 2013 16:26:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2013 18:26:11 -0600 From: Rick Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] XPAG oil pump Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, Does the 1953 vintage XPAG oil pump need to be 'primed' after changing the oil and filter?B -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 10 02:30:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62F9431AA for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 02:30:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 885094041C for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 02:25:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from cypress ([86.8.152.135]) by know-smtprelay-9-imp with bizsmtp id nlRC1m00F2vXtG601lRC5x; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 09:25:12 +0000 a=uObrxnre4hsA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=o1O_6u8ORiMA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=gvHoWyLWnhaB1lK5AhoA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 a=PwYPgAp4zzY326Yfju+9Og==:117 From: "Clive Sherriff" To: "Rick Lindsay" , References: <1epepl3enhit9vlbsuw5vclq.1384043171097@email.android.com> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 09:25:15 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] XPAG oil pump Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net no ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Lindsay" To: Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 12:26 AM Subject: [Mg-t] XPAG oil pump > Hello Friends, > > Does the 1953 vintage XPAG oil pump need to be 'primed' after changing the > oil and filter?B > > -rick > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/clive.sherriff@ntlworld.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 10 05:38:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9C7403FB for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 05:38:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A8A2240323 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 05:38:17 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1384087078; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=a5FArMgOs30ooAL9uPKOg4I5Saj852H7Ne4SsDdNKLqRlh53qz1dB141gxAG9RfDr K4QpMlCV+6fnb5i9yIDbEAoHCtFSe6WaYruiUvj1ygNHrDFHFilCQxAP7lHQJLor/1 wd1ZIkgzT3tdJIwQ1eBaNaMP6qQiVO9Lnr+uZOXI= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.102]) by smtpout03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABKH89SFAYFMUZA for (sender ); Sun, 10 Nov 2013 04:37:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [108.88.216.197] by webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 12:36:39 GMT From: "mgbob@juno.com" Full-Name: "mgbob@juno.com" Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 12:36:39 GMT To: richardolindsay@gmail.com Cc: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] XPAG oil pump Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Rick, Usually not. It holds prime during regular changes.If one has let the sump drain for a long period, overnight, say, the pump may drain also. I put a pint +/- of oil into the filter so pressure may build faster. Bob ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Rick Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] XPAG oil pump Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2013 18:26:11 -0600 Hello Friends, Does the 1953 vintage XPAG oil pump need to be 'primed' after changing the oil and filter?B -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 10 09:10:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9663842FC7 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 09:10:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f181.google.com (mail-vc0-f181.google.com [209.85.220.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBABB42FB4; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 09:04:03 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id lf12so278880vcb.12 for ; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 08:03:36 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=p5Tw1bqS8mq++OxtZKtz4jGOZP/rTJoRCikr90mYmxE=; b=KkmxUXhEszKiVOoFurQmlCEado1vTugIPxMQRgObfSWJrmAwN7bJNYLLz4JzUp9isy IBpIeGlcaMRZQMlVE6p9wxfDhdje73CEv8RiMLctZYZ4bYrNqtpVO8pLgMGmHGZoTl5u dHowov6QRjx1QZqZgVWfoCwpJ8HBj27nnH98j6nXULmyr5+V1L/nssxMwVR6/sKcb1BU NmVpk1KSMBfz3yUZ7RegcNxRshllQ9Ln25yg3wF/FIsC6e2H3+wHb0p9gmm8F7M1UeS+ WSU6aZ/pMmRv6xFu0ucF1r70i4ImHe9EedbuKIyei86wtN/dZi17Bczdh0RIDyQl6ncM B/dA== wy10mr17572941vdc.2.1384099416721; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 08:03:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.59.7.195 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Nov 2013 08:03:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2013 10:03:36 -0600 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mg-t@autox.team.net" , "mgs@autox.team.net List" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] TD oil pump Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Friends, Have just a moment to type this morning. NOT a car day. I was concerned when I started my TD that there was no indicated oil pressure. I only ran it for a 30 seconds or so. This morning I opened the prime-port on the pump and flooded it with oil until it was full. I then spun the engine on the starter only to pump oil out onto my garage floor. I replaced the plug and called it 'good'. I started the engine and gave the gauge a few raps with the fingers, like one sees pilots do in the old war movies. Anyway, it worked and whatever was stuck inside gave way. At fast idle the engine now makes an indicated 60psi. The carbs are out of balance, as indicated by the flow meter, so I've got some fun tuning to do. That said, you might have noticed that I copy my friend Rui Gigante on most all my notes. Rui lives in Porto, Portugal and besides being a dear friend, he is a expert British and Italian car restorer. Rui just had a terrible evening yesterday. Details are unknown about the accident at this time but the left rear of his Ferrari 328GTS, including the drivetrain, is severely damaged. Rui is devastated, as would be any of us if our precious cars are damaged. Fortunately, no one was hurt - physically - but Rui is hurting plenty bad emotionally today. Think of him today please, as you tinker tinker in the garage. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 11 18:43:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1562843684 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 18:43:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gg0-f170.google.com (mail-gg0-f170.google.com [209.85.161.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7100E435FD for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 18:42:30 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-gg0-f170.google.com with SMTP id 4so176806ggm.1 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 17:41:49 -0800 (PST) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=Man+2XSy9/fLDZ45juLIZLSpFDlygtV4kEa5jL/WGjQ=; b=nmONRxpmQzkQNPqzVwXYpVURq0hEIHUN8iulRngiq4m8HBit7pZHf/uIjQtSeR9zrM DtoVafBwd421x2Z+ShdMDl1KN14LkDu6Oap1tTetKwber9SawtF35Xa/XHFenw680SCp fVX2MLIXaMAtKya0L7D2x4gcigHxt8YsRAfNKIEmx4olo9RP3/m1N3+ZN8H61ohmqIJR EIh9f4FDZlZw+N43iKWGZfqFkJ8FWHeyU8sdYXtlkl/rMcjQe0ebN2QoWxLGlFMGHy0Z jWq6v8hJq/G/iVWIXhO2r+kKbrAAeOCPKTorDzelW+WahMvuK49FLVOUDZZojD1VZddy 3EsQ== l6mr13826377yhg.17.1384220509892; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 17:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.68] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e10sm43893050yhj.1.2013.11.11.17.41.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Nov 2013 17:41:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 19:41:46 -0600 From: Rick Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Welt help, please... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, Quick question for the TD Brain Trust: The welt between the wings and tub breaks at the rear of the running boards, right? Then picks up again around the rear wing? That's the way my car was outfitted when I received it. But as we know, after 60 years, that often means little. Your advice is appreciated.B -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 12 14:25:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43EED403C8 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 14:25:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f173.google.com (mail-ve0-f173.google.com [209.85.128.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD6F40079 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 14:24:25 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ve0-f173.google.com with SMTP id c14so4876552vea.32 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:23:55 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4lIEv87m27rkSltGLjf2QA6+rBOHSSkt3dm/kapEkpM=; b=JBcQj4jOehNeayPjTIrw5CvZJ9Md6A4DTDoxnw/ZQ5BpGeQoDEWa+MqBVukv/q3k/U TtORsiTlT6OWsfMOhblQHwfFI2uJavz6lq2mYLVBzOWcLL8cokQrKiX+4F3bVyCBNHsF Oo+pkhayERtjGGK24FUxyxQPkR6+BumkhSTyygOjU3IRAaR86p+kWu/4e0vBEeRak+fC 56454HqwbuuHnEOiPV64GDG8Fw51NdYCtGZIDl+PCLlfrueY1CTYKdMeklwVxED8V2pw WftpmRjO5OioQ+Ul/qqjx5eZUXiI0DiJG+SKi3mlLmIhpGMYbIhBWL7mcUXPCAmOjbLT dP3A== fl13mr3082472vec.31.1384291435010; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:23:55 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.59.7.195 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:23:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:23:54 -0600 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: [Mg-t] XPAG ignition timing instability Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, My '53 TD's XPAG has unstable ignition timing. Its the kind of instability caused by worn distributor bits (advance mechanism, bushings, etc.). Static timing is set to TDC but it bounces around quite a lot at idle. My TR3 had exactly the same problem and a new distributor made it rock solid - the timing AND the idle. Is there a distributor rebuild service that you recommend? Moss has a replacement for $470 but its an upgrade, not a one-for-one replacement. I don't want to go there AND I don't have the skills or tools to rebuild my distributor. Please help. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 12 14:58:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E49E403EA for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 14:58:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from s417.sureserver.com (s417.sureserver.com [216.35.197.131]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 250494032A for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 14:54:30 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 30735 invoked by uid 504); 12 Nov 2013 21:53:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (lawrie@98.244.5.122) by s417.sureserver.com with ESMTPA; 12 Nov 2013 21:53:59 -0000 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:54:01 -0800 From: Lawrie User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 To: mg-t@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Mg-t] XPAG ignition timing instability Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Jeff @ Advanced Distributors will do a terrific job for under $200. (www.advanceddistributors.com) Lawrie On 11/12/2013 1:23 PM, Richard Lindsay wrote: > Hi Friends, > > My '53 TD's XPAG has unstable ignition timing. Its the kind of > instability caused by worn distributor bits (advance mechanism, > bushings, etc.). Static timing is set to TDC but it bounces around > quite a lot at idle. My TR3 had exactly the same problem and a new > distributor made it rock solid - the timing AND the idle. > > Is there a distributor rebuild service that you recommend? Moss has a > replacement for $470 but its an upgrade, not a one-for-one > replacement. I don't want to go there AND I don't have the skills or > tools to rebuild my distributor. > > Please help. > > -rick > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/lawrie@britcars.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 12 15:35:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0E17403E0 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:35:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com (mail-wi0-f180.google.com [209.85.212.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C3040333 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 15:10:07 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f180.google.com with SMTP id ey11so4474054wid.7 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 14:09:36 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=5VX0mxIZyHYfjHuuW6Y9k7HYkDyrc5+crTZTQDGtazA=; b=Hg+c0C5+A2UolYE2Z/cfE3DuRucwIEKkFUDbLs70WcgxoNWDnLjhw6Crhvw8ft0/6R lsZqGATNwzZmF25Gug85PSU66OtiD4E1jAno59O3a/eM5WbIRWwQGON++eZ3ebYLraYN yvtAuNGEm8FA+P6bfeATyFmAshFxQDhtkMyqUQcuSlL7Q6SENSwXVAdoaOycEu0a9L40 uW8RTjVTPClxfIyxD7QQWFagp4GLMK1lKijFBQ1wN7E9tng54YS7ZX2RQsudid/BcZ3/ gG2HVPc9KqlW568l714UT2aWZq7MYqve2NmxybEeOnc2H4slSWGuH1cmTcdyJ81nhWGs cujw== eg6mr18061294wic.21.1384294176688; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 14:09:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.135.18 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 14:09:36 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 17:09:36 -0500 From: Scott Allen To: Richard Lindsay Cc: "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mg-t] XPAG ignition timing instability Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Blair Engle who is a member of this list did mine. He owns the Classic MG Shop in Tallahasee and can be reached at engle001@comcast.net. He also offers several other rebuild services. However, please be advised when he did mine he had to replace the case as well as re-bush it. It's made of pot metal and the shaft will wear an oval pattern in it over time rather than staying round, causing the back two cylinders to run rich no matter what adjustment I made. ~Scott '52 MG On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Richard Lindsay wrote: > Hi Friends, > > My '53 TD's XPAG has unstable ignition timing. Its the kind of > instability caused by worn distributor bits (advance mechanism, > bushings, etc.). Static timing is set to TDC but it bounces around > quite a lot at idle. My TR3 had exactly the same problem and a new > distributor made it rock solid - the timing AND the idle. > > Is there a distributor rebuild service that you recommend? Moss has a > replacement for $470 but its an upgrade, not a one-for-one > replacement. I don't want to go there AND I don't have the skills or > tools to rebuild my distributor. > > Please help. > > -rick > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/scottallen3663@gmail.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 12 16:31:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C9624035A for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 16:31:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from nm21-vm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm21-vm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 424CE40323 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 16:10:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from [216.39.60.172] by nm21.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Nov 2013 23:10:08 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.244] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Nov 2013 23:10:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Nov 2013 23:10:08 -0000 s=s1024; t=1384297808; bh=h0oWaBU8a49d1Sg8FFCNxhyiSBeZJRL2Y9R+W07c2S4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer; b=osvdM0VGNlrfkA92aqhxyIFWUPpebeHM63Sd+s82VPuJusAsSItbQDYCOJ3PCIW/wr4QTlrVgu1r0zj5dAiNUCJFwNaorVHa5u+GqcgF6yrGVHf2MWxrFa+PKRIpeSvHM6dspXBWUJH7ar9FbLyLoE9Bi1TjshFqtF6FWO4FhMs= fTRBzd9tkjjg.QTechRWzAbRZfvsb5LrsfRbBKwVl1WCHW2xmEGEROxePs1P 6c0NqwidFyvuTsnnulZy8WnTQJiwrQ7WOdzSjV6iYgdr.qlKF9B07x9SipfH i7EbC73lUrJ3YknhP6I_3fSRf8r0yRdJRexsIB6JIqfcYOCY6sUL3c1SEf.D IpP01NfuAD.oK5csUmJOkYmRUzdAL6PSL49qVk9r6roPgsjx1BTiJdupu3zY jFwvZsjM_C7ZGUMQswp4JfBVFuoEon.SkOhOZ4yjX4mvqgimVgBJpnAOoUMt 14kGrGQ9dmmc5.PRn5vxYN_y0yQZ96iZ3m3V0yqryI8VK8Xa0JgFb9zmpynG 9JhQe0R5Nr8_P5JoMZMbBazyTojuKffIB0iup_mH3DZ_fHN6M.BvJoCEkIy1 Jypn1pFA4YtA5LDYGz4wQKTNP3OZZESVtb1UTpy7k4xi2vRuI6uRiLuie0Ay povV55r0GTHVu1XGOcroRPuqKQMEU4qhY30gFT55GxCHMcmPgCP5Cxth.cpL RKnGMpWFNdt86 smtp115.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Nov 2013 23:10:08 +0000 UTC From: Gene Gillam Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 17:10:07 -0600 References: To: Scott Allen Cc: "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mg-t] XPAG ignition timing instability Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net I believe Blair has fully retired from the MG repair business now. Gene Gillam Saucier, MS anngene@bellsouth.net On Nov 12, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Scott Allen wrote: > Blair Engle who is a member of this list did mine. He owns the Classic MG > Shop in Tallahasee and can be reached at engle001@comcast.net. He also > offers several other rebuild services. > > However, please be advised when he did mine he had to replace the case as > well as re-bush it. It's made of pot metal and the shaft will wear an oval > pattern in it over time rather than staying round, causing the back two > cylinders to run rich no matter what adjustment I made. > > ~Scott > '52 MG > > > On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 4:23 PM, Richard Lindsay > wrote: > >> Hi Friends, >> >> My '53 TD's XPAG has unstable ignition timing. Its the kind of >> instability caused by worn distributor bits (advance mechanism, >> bushings, etc.). Static timing is set to TDC but it bounces around >> quite a lot at idle. My TR3 had exactly the same problem and a new >> distributor made it rock solid - the timing AND the idle. >> >> Is there a distributor rebuild service that you recommend? Moss has a >> replacement for $470 but its an upgrade, not a one-for-one >> replacement. I don't want to go there AND I don't have the skills or >> tools to rebuild my distributor. >> >> Please help. >> >> -rick >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Mg-t@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/scottallen3663@gmail.com > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/anngene@bellsouth.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 12 16:33:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659F9403DF for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 16:33:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFFA640325 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 16:31:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6C4C670167F18; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:29:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mee001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mee001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.47.65]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 26217E000081; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:29:05 -0500 (EST) References: To: richardolindsay@gmail.com, mg-t@autox.team.net From: laf48@aol.com Received: from 71.167.162.72 by webmail-d228.sysops.aol.com (149.174.160.230) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:29:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:29:05 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1384298945; bh=CwhUsTb02C71FLqqz98Grythpkv/3P50gB4WpjTHuxA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SnGNHy5c9SUd6k/dHIL02ap2zoBzjdU+pM9NFj/n9ir6v5QQPXlQSscIfC9Z5+8pu W5vStXqUv69t4qMk9ZOY4VvKGcSwk8O07BIA/xv+FF/UdpaWsqqcGtiwwn72szOrKN 6RD0Y6p9kAikdIIt+vUOP9tEGpzl2cHlyuWpOT0Y= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c5282b9c12cb6 Subject: Re: [Mg-t] XPAG ignition timing instability Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net I rebuild & re curve advance in distributors as well. Most under $ 200 as well Powder coatings Component rebuilding Custom cylinder head porting And of course Roller lifter camshaft kits 5 grinds, "A roller cam will always out perform a flat lifter cam of the same duration!" and roller rocker arms. Len Fanelli Abingdon Performance 914 420 8699 -----Original Message----- From: Richard Lindsay To: mg-t Sent: Tue, Nov 12, 2013 4:26 pm Subject: [Mg-t] XPAG ignition timing instability Hi Friends, My '53 TD's XPAG has unstable ignition timing. Its the kind of instability caused by worn distributor bits (advance mechanism, bushings, etc.). Static timing is set to TDC but it bounces around quite a lot at idle. My TR3 had exactly the same problem and a new distributor made it rock solid - the timing AND the idle. Is there a distributor rebuild service that you recommend? Moss has a replacement for $470 but its an upgrade, not a one-for-one replacement. I don't want to go there AND I don't have the skills or tools to rebuild my distributor. Please help. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 13 17:38:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0442140409 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 17:38:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f51.google.com (mail-vb0-f51.google.com [209.85.212.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1533E40323 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 17:37:26 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id w5so961712vbf.24 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:36:50 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=TY1AQnk1gACS0n1RfulvH7XE3CERJ2X3idd4IHd46kU=; b=PAo1BaGUivwiZXL52NFra8wU/ESd+MTTIq7k5JSGbWPgA+IT46ErxRZzNA/uDTZgVg 7WmPUZjH6dDfKwXTwq155a+S6rckEErV2t7DfH4rNelpuPykT2SkNXOleNjK7ipHTfQL 30bf1gkrgEM8AcYnyltmw/srJ/MCub/CnQm4RWB/ZjMdLoI/m6hzTVK66UYnIJYos7RL KL60L+oLs22YPcb2DCr3LTKGHlgpgQQfwETuzxQ4PMvmJLaok2/Xil2+Eb2RXNXXeEUG FagEbOkrJVQjB7u1s1g150JhMAEU4njV+JpnCv8WyXe+yuOa8MtMM0ql1TsLEMbt/ugg eBVQ== kl2mr8478155vdb.30.1384389410720; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:36:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.59.7.195 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 16:36:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 18:36:50 -0600 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: [Mg-t] D2A4 40368F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, I found a cool site that has info on my XPAG's distributor. For those of you who are as geeky as me... http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130807_072413.jpg Its a D2A4 model 40368F Distributor Timing Speed rpm Advance ---------------+-------------------------- 200 0 degrees 500 1-1/2 to 3-1/2 degrees 1150 9-1/2 to 11-1/2 degrees 2600 14 to 16 degrees Note: Remember, distributor speed is half the crank speed. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 14 14:44:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C264A4044E for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:44:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from qproxy1-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (qproxy1-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [173.254.64.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 525DC403F8 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:35:06 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 21391 invoked by uid 0); 14 Nov 2013 21:27:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by qproxy1.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 14 Nov 2013 21:27:39 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=rJCxG3I1WIGwGRLio3KVllA8F0VWySdAJRIAr1XAkZE=; b=a3MhHzhZp1H/rDCaf7qgisoOHO8knwzhzClAFdKQgd+5UzGvDElMVNJ4wAwrMGUttL5aEv0XhPXJLwCiyyf3H3adybDTFGRR91L59U8ZsExR5TGO3ezC/IvGY65Ztq90; Received: from [24.15.13.164] (port=21383 helo=[192.168.0.119]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Vh4Rv-0006MH-1q for mg-t@autox.team.net; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:27:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 15:27:31 -0600 From: Shop User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: mg-t@autox.team.net References: {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with shop@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Floor boards Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net << On 11/14/2013 2:49 PM, Richard Lindsay wrote: I'm sending my TD's distributor off for repairs and recalibration. >> To Jeff at Advanced, I 'hope' Rick ? ? ? Ed ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 14 17:14:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BED740432 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 17:14:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f48.google.com (mail-vb0-f48.google.com [209.85.212.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDB34403F4; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 17:13:02 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vb0-f48.google.com with SMTP id m10so2235121vbh.7 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 16:12:19 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=CZxD7SEl6gl740YY2j9IjZn9wUl2Rw5E5Y1t/0lKBso=; b=l23aF12xg7s4WnkV2aFQLyCXNwGdPSlTwwn+niUmI0K7VueIAJzbH5WAYOiI6qmBXy 2Lu7vcRE9754dOCOjs/Z26U+rBuUU76cQyRuxvhUvQgJak6C6+Ufa3vAr9OIbXtsHNeU ElYos5Xbx6aSbh83t1K8o7v/MHGeOR0UC+TA52wqRsTL4FWxvfo6H+I2ThfIFBE7f91m rckg5G9h/AcH+JJwG/ekXnwU74qMGDjPI+/44Bxoa0+LLNhkA0tqYxe14ElwD4Qi0Mzb yadaLyiEwyxtOeSXLil1gIB9zByuAWJT8mc+df4g1mvN1ZAvw2Cg9qGavSY+adqhbrvz dUvQ== xk2mr1853482vdb.24.1384474339633; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 16:12:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.59.7.195 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 16:12:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 18:12:19 -0600 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mg-t@autox.team.net" , "mgs@autox.team.net List" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Floorboard trial fit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net With the TD's floorboards' urethane finish now dry, I set the floors in place for a trial-fit. Its excellent. Here's a look. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131114_180432.jpg -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 15 01:22:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91ECF40453 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 01:22:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from dd12314.kasserver.com (dd12314.kasserver.com [85.13.134.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EE640425 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 01:22:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from myfactory (unknown [80.150.215.39]) by dd12314.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 2A8B732013E7; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 09:22:11 +0100 (CET) From: "lists" To: "Scott Allen" Date: 15 Nov 2013 09:22:03 +0100 Cc: "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mg-t] XPAG ignition timing instability Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Scott, how can a maladjusted distributor be the cause for cylinders running rich? I always thought that the carbs were responsible for the mixture. Eric bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb Von Scott Allen [scottallen3663@gmail.com] An Richard Lindsay[richardolindsay@gmail.com] CC mg-t@autox.team.net Datum 12.11.2013 23:48:14 Betreff Re: [Mg-t] XPAG ignition timing instability bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb Blair Engle who is a member of this list did mine. He owns the Classic MG Shop in Tallahasee and can be reached at engle001@comcast.net. He also offers several other rebuild services. However, please be advised when he did mine he had to replace the case as well as re-bush it. It's made of pot metal and the shaft will wear an oval pattern in it over time rather than staying round, causing the back two cylinders to run rich no matter what adjustment I made. ~Scott '52 MG ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 16 08:48:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA44D42F19 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 08:48:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f50.google.com (mail-vb0-f50.google.com [209.85.212.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8AA42EF5; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 08:48:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id x11so3599173vbb.37 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 07:47:52 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Iv5DQZNyoGQyAfdMOT2Z4Js3UFoi055NH1PEWOFtY/Y=; b=XTByxek9plDGoz+zTmV3fjkY0PfyDhtxHlGZ9MvDLSnCgBhVEZ6322n2CCVd02kyTj MX7ikTcRuRLPLtjfdkyqzcMkUd+Zp2gvli7smcG5skkgI0y413fEgdPwVcz2su3eE8EW J5zx4ya5MT9nDqHISZWE6LHmGGq/okZYKceXfQlkPc1+w5F3Kq/z7T5h5C7hwVWrkMUX g8Dmy6WgU+q0I7wi4M0Upcc5tj74zfzrnsc4IpiiY1ed7EXVdpNXwd+trkAvCBXs6Hqg Nzp4p5VcssjJG/kvMj180OSBJs97LtcSo/EJ9SFz9Wo6kaHZJs5RXEdv9Y7Bo+RxhYzT Kaqw== d5mr7810843vci.11.1384616872686; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 07:47:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.59.7.195 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 07:47:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 09:47:52 -0600 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Bodywork to paint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, I visited the paint shop this morning. They have begun stripping and grinding away all the old paint, primer and Bondo from my TD's wings. Here's a look at the metal below the crud. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131116_090035.jpg The guys are going to clean it all up and apply a rust-killing acid etch primer. They'll then apply a skim of filler where the surface rust has eaten deeper than what a high build-up primer should fill. Here's a look at the front end of the left-front wing where previous damage has been (kinda) repaired. This is a good example of where the metal will be fixed and any remaining little 'dimples' will be infilled. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131116_085331.jpg Progress, if slowly. The shop expects the job to be finished by the middle of next week. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 16 16:36:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B18742F21 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 16:36:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f51.google.com (mail-vb0-f51.google.com [209.85.212.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DC474003B; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 16:36:41 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id w5so3721309vbf.38 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 15:35:51 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xtCQ3kvJ0Z9gjVKdP9If6l4rJW6F5XNI/p4YYSwOSUE=; b=ltWPleX7LIDvzzU04mD1P1p6AldM6rcDEwxGhqvRyvJ1anlWUM+1yEfnjYymrBcWtT y+sHuuiLMlATbFTF+I9nDdnEX0DR4Yp+BMcFRbINRLddf7+WA9n93Gqx5x1xyYYpMS6v bmagHg5ySDToAzrJeiNzsmuSQYv8kD7ClvNK1St8AhkWpNgKH5z9RYs8Zi7XTGcYuJb5 10/7RLRSlbQfXlf0Aw/RfuVujjvWbUToxMpfEtlC1XKc6At9ox70+sz3cgrL2UiX4KRY neTcOL1bXUwaIZaFALyyyyN32oZQTjbKaF3b9nlgMJWk6NNrWQd7sbXLOBJPV8+jymZ8 f26g== t9mr7354189vdo.22.1384644951826; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 15:35:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.59.7.195 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 15:35:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 17:35:51 -0600 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Fuel tank straps and spare carrier Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, Up until today, my TD's fuel tank was just setting in place (and plumbed). Today, I painted the spare tire carrier and installed it along with the tank straps, on the rear of the tub. I then installed and wired the license plate light, and the plate. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131116_172414.jpg Tomorrow, I'll connect the wire to the low-fuel sender and strap the harness in place. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 17 09:07:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3409842F4A for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 09:07:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f173.google.com (mail-vc0-f173.google.com [209.85.220.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FBC342F32; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 09:06:55 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id lh4so2978685vcb.18 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 08:06:02 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=oMLx1nwMsFOqoS3XEEKtdtSJtpViAh+zYJUDk5K9ihU=; b=iP7o5fmXpogi6/x4TKnOGNR5ZpSOyS/wDYVZ6ebd9dP7IYRraRvqgXE4BaxCK8EVwu KO3OGfAw3KQLrhQUsdRF4YhSCGxMC8ziBoZWqDGxsEPwLzWUgZL+sedlabvfw3PKcl1z ApfG/U2x7GuT+F3YQkvS3iImq9o0cppr71sy8MOn41fe/1b02415VrFxsh1rdDrIB4sw HCjdwp2vof9u25SDapbcAOGcXa526n+J9h279hQYyy00F7gWUpKWM0Up8UqAlBkJRqVQ QPeq78P2Wt5euHAZ8BDyfSMXek7ZdirgZSPEKVJlsFdjZziBJNfLDXqMp3i6n0YTmRLH cz+w== wd10mr11073323veb.7.1384704362400; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 08:06:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.59.7.195 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 08:06:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 10:06:02 -0600 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Just a few TD pictures Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, No work in the garage today but I have a few pictures to share. First of all, here's a look at the driver's footwell. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1479.JPG Draft excluders are now installed on the steering column and the pedals, as well as new pedal pads. The floor pan will be added after bleeding the brakes. The screws for the pedal rubber retainer, before. Just another look at the progress. Note the foam insulation inserted between the tranny cover and the tunnel. Its just home weatherstrip but will help keep fumes out of the cockpit. (Yea, like there's no other way for fumes to get in!) http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1480.JPG Presented in no particular order other than me walking around the garage, are more pictures. Here's a look at the end of the fuel tank. That's anti-rust red primer. I'll paint this area by brush with POR15 before installing the pretty end caps. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1481.JPG I couldn't resist wiring the light and mounting the license plate - just for a look. I need to replace the screws with pretty stainless steel hardware, but for now, it in place. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1482.JPG Here's the back of the tank with the harness wires waiting to be strapped to the frame. The line to the license plate lamp is installed and connected. The tank level switch wire has not yet been connected because my acid reflux today told me NOT to lay on my back and fight wires. The remaining wires await the installation of the wings. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1483.JPG The main harness snap connectors were a little further back on the original harness but the location of the new connectors is just fine. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1484.JPG Here's a close-up picture of a tank attachment strap and spare carrier. I need to change out the washer and lockwasher for stainless then decide if I want to reinstall the chrome luggage carrier. A lot of that decision will ride upon whether I can straighten a bend in the metal. It looks like the carrier was used to push the car, then bent. I did not clean the paint before taking the picture. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1486.JPG Again, wildly out of order, here's a look at the gearbox cover. The accelerator linkage had to be disconnected to fit the cover. That's why the 'pedal' is down on the floor. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1488.JPG I have yet to decide whether to replace the shifter, or to just clean and polish it, thereby leaving a bit of patina. Either way, the moving parts will get lubed nicely before to boot is installed. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1489.JPG Just another look at the pedals with the new pads installed. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1490.JPG And to finish off today's offering, here are a few looks at just how trashed the garage has become. Restoring TWO cars at the same time is MESSY. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1492.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1493.JPG '53 TD in the foreground, '73 Volvo 1800ES project in driveway right behind it. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1496.JPG The Toyota doesn't count - until I need to carry parts to/from storage! -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 17 13:42:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E138742F35 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 13:42:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f173.google.com (mail-wi0-f173.google.com [209.85.212.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE22403C6; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 13:42:23 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id ey16so3003233wid.6 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 12:41:29 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=lD7moIE0FGPKyhkBW7nfZ4VXX/1F1RIASPSF0rh/d/Q=; b=H8nXe2gl7KGkT039wuZ3NR8fJ9ICjyRVVwRrwrwzCFK1JsgPWFtEWYi8AhwgEvqZo0 r1AOSJgpl1JEaSeiyIo5FdriwThgyQ82fVmkr1zr3bo9vlcpOD9TP03Kr6rNzzGEiE9d hShDUCM519Lkxb8/h5TsI85znu4M/YGIiHuEoH1bjUmr8LgRdnHvzDqqNbfDBtcMeL1P bdjDs5RdknecOLRFHyu44F3I/bfPbc9P9qUPH8yXsie892YwOTFhGMx3HYAKn45POPEq 6m30Bhh1cy9l7vG5jM4vLILUOk5ZePA67S4oKZfNc7SVg4jcjkj+nWWwXXuVlvp86HJR Ui2A== v5mr14229660wiz.45.1384720889292; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 12:41:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.2.11 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 12:41:29 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 15:41:29 -0500 From: Scott Allen To: Rick Lindsay Cc: mgs@autox.team.net, "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Chrome Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net I used Graves Plating in AL. That was after I had some sub-standard work done. Good shops are hard to find. ~Scott '52 TD On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Rick Lindsay wrote: > Hello Friends, > > Anyone here have a dependable chrome shop that do my TD's windshield frame > and the headlight pods? > > -rick > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/scottallen3663@gmail.com ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 17 14:20:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6385403DD for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 14:20:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E721C403C5 for ; Sun, 17 Nov 2013 14:20:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.196.81.174] by nm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Nov 2013 21:19:19 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.162] by tm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Nov 2013 21:19:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Nov 2013 21:19:19 -0000 s=s1024; t=1384723159; bh=214+xeXr+vf6UbHnUOUCF9OizEBo6px441VvB9g2MKQ=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=qwA8H69RqlvUXSWHvHERyf5gLJaK+28qwNRo8yfANk7THu+wvPsKya5Fy6GLcRjwSnsWIy1oiSvVthmV2RghRztZ2jRA/GZjc8OiFLCxZKOMjnOkt847fKsmaMF7bXIkhLzJW68mGQ4WyFgQxXn6tFk8IPj9soC4bkL/RHbZ0Dg= wIdqk4AdjMKPLod2VdF54XiKv278y5OFN4Q8ULIv7eK797iEDIIcqn_0bpVA Dnp62Yaj9wV5kZ6jhlgbBmfTlOpHqBBL_HbtwdX3K7T9RjBsZaQU8Pm996hs z9qUCgSI32XMngbw2JchKbScuN2HC554KsC6fc5d6TeDvJbckDRbVZgQSqvf zXWVUqa8hxZtcE5D0.xjsH2C0tJ9gE5OJUBpeTUu139iKdiNlIo3hHzEqzyF CfLWYxWi0KJjlWoY47YkwD9Af4Xq2sZi3_bLlUxjG.xum2xy7cuoCXMET3Lq PaBFozVZp6ghboEWwy4uHCqnY7kw3mOBWvZ4zR3uPgeEYYu2B2mn_R7n1ISz dgyj7jJtPHkcGV03SR1guC9weUf.tX4OeOTFYc_NP.Aq0QehGI6S61VI8zMZ qA9eeUc0_KYBJ.Yy2Ps.hCR8cc0cryjC2aEWGsgA24HVaarlFH5xC0zM8Ojj _FXWw0fcXJhyg3GXpFu.3VUv6LKhPoO2qNr3xVDRAstgNsMnf8OrWpnka smtp219.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Nov 2013 13:19:19 -0800 PST References: From: WBEECH Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 15:19:17 -0600 To: Rick Lindsay Cc: "mgs@autox.team.net" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Chrome Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Rick, I have a friend that has recommended Speed Sport Chrome in Houston, 713.921.0235. I have not used them but intend to give them a try on my current project in a few months. NFI, Bill Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 17, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Rick Lindsay wrote: > > Hello Friends, > > Anyone here have a dependable chrome shop that do my TD's windshield frame and the headlight pods? > > -rick > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/wbeech@flash.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 18 01:42:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 129FC40525 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 01:42:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from smtpsalv.upv.es (smtpsalv.cc.upv.es [158.42.249.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F1E403F8; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 01:37:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from smtpx.upv.es (smtpxv.cc.upv.es [158.42.249.46]) by smtpsalv.upv.es (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAI8aoaT021755 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 18 Nov 2013 09:36:50 +0100 s=default; t=1384763810; bh=/HEn6/REAL79nBQSbVqu2HmYkjg0s6l/O9eQkxiqFrY=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:References:In-Reply-To; b=Uq9CIDhg4jI6roldqnIrFROI1AHmoEsfQq/djywBL5ySQlPR5Ms8reOx3+KqA9e7A zH32uDYfUlk9/IYGwMzWegyAZ+X3vkQ94d7ovuvaW1wKML2lMkQayV/mKIsqZB+qPE R9qYfcqlDvMo8kahrTs8BdkBxeuz1rwIDD7vIXBDmpTH2E2WlocmtuiYg9LJPPMIek dXaGVZarc/AMCyWNC/7HgiVEXGt/2bY3OvltE7Bjv/scgjbzczbvx4BpnSCtx6MmuX yLudT0hYW5NhLn83yhQ5qcvcgIkpZgqAGW622O7bRaLPRAAN4Q2M+NoS12fsmOsi3s GdExQ49vyh/KA== Received: from smtp.upv.es (celaeno.cc.upv.es [158.42.249.55]) by smtpx.upv.es (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id rAI8anMA017638; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 09:36:50 +0100 Received: from AGENDA1.upvnet.upv.es (agenda1.cc.upv.es [158.42.250.188]) by smtp.upv.es (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id rAI8angH014396 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=OK); Mon, 18 Nov 2013 09:36:49 +0100 Received: from AGENDA2.upvnet.upv.es (158.42.250.83) by AGENDA1.upvnet.upv.es (158.42.250.188) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.347.0; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 09:36:48 +0100 Received: from AGENDA1.upvnet.upv.es ([fe80::a821:2613:70b:4291]) by AGENDA2.upvnet.upv.es ([fe80::ad59:ffd3:6a55:be35%14]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 09:36:48 +0100 From: Jesus Vicente Benajes Calvo To: Richard Lindsay , "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Mg-t] Just a few TD pictures Thread-Index: AQHO468NOg4MxMMTeUe8v2b0F17l1JoqpN+A Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 08:36:47 +0000 References: Accept-Language: es-ES, en-US Content-Language: es-ES x-originating-ip: [158.42.90.164] Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Just a few TD pictures Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Rick, I do not see clearly in your photos, but a good recommendation is to let the rear light harness to make a loop downwards at the exit from the support pipe, before turning upwards towards the light. This should avoid the ingress of rain water into the pipe that may trickle down along the harness. Jeszs Escurrir > -----Mensaje original----- > De: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net] En > nombre de Richard Lindsay > Enviado el: domingo, 17 de noviembre de 2013 17:06 > Para: mgs@autox.team.net List; mg-t@autox.team.net; Rui Gigante > Asunto: [Mg-t] Just a few TD pictures > > Hi Friends, > > No work in the garage today but I have a few pictures to share. First of > all, here's a look at the driver's footwell. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1479.JPG > > Draft excluders are now installed on the steering column and the pedals, as > well as new pedal pads. The floor pan will be added after bleeding the > brakes. The screws for the pedal rubber retainer, before. > > Just another look at the progress. Note the foam insulation inserted > between the tranny cover and the tunnel. Its just home weatherstrip but > will help keep fumes out of the cockpit. (Yea, like there's no other way > for fumes to get in!) > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1480.JPG > > Presented in no particular order other than me walking around the garage, > are more pictures. Here's a look at the end of the fuel tank. > That's anti-rust red primer. I'll paint this area by brush with POR15 > before installing the pretty end caps. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1481.JPG > > I couldn't resist wiring the light and mounting the license plate - just > for a look. I need to replace the screws with pretty stainless steel > hardware, but for now, it in place. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1482.JPG > > Here's the back of the tank with the harness wires waiting to be strapped > to the frame. The line to the license plate lamp is installed and > connected. The tank level switch wire has not yet been connected because my > acid reflux today told me NOT to lay on my back and fight wires. The > remaining wires await the installation of the wings. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1483.JPG > > The main harness snap connectors were a little further back on the original > harness but the location of the new connectors is just fine. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1484.JPG > > Here's a close-up picture of a tank attachment strap and spare carrier. I > need to change out the washer and lockwasher for stainless then decide if I > want to reinstall the chrome luggage carrier. A lot of that decision will > ride upon whether I can straighten a bend in the metal. It looks like the > carrier was used to push the car, then bent. > I did not clean the paint before taking the picture. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1486.JPG > > Again, wildly out of order, here's a look at the gearbox cover. The > accelerator linkage had to be disconnected to fit the cover. That's why the > 'pedal' is down on the floor. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1488.JPG > > I have yet to decide whether to replace the shifter, or to just clean and > polish it, thereby leaving a bit of patina. Either way, the moving parts > will get lubed nicely before to boot is installed. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1489.JPG > > Just another look at the pedals with the new pads installed. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1490.JPG > > And to finish off today's offering, here are a few looks at just how > trashed the garage has become. Restoring TWO cars at the same time is > MESSY. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1492.JPG > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1493.JPG > > '53 TD in the foreground, '73 Volvo 1800ES project in driveway right behind > it. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1496.JPG > > The Toyota doesn't count - until I need to carry parts to/from storage! > > -rick > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg- > t/jbenajes@mot.upv.es ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 19 14:05:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 225F942F8E for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:05:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f177.google.com (mail-ve0-f177.google.com [209.85.128.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F14542F4C; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:05:06 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ve0-f177.google.com with SMTP id db12so2483844veb.36 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:04:03 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=nZSC+DDteMj7g7Jc3W5Fs3kD6OBk+DKc/BbPf6mgGn4=; b=Run1IIaPN61A4gAsSdBGVObTT5t9AOrDeFlCYWnRmWDutI0hUhWCwB6UfLfKEYA9R0 Y4D/e/o95SHpTdKkx6DA3SvT+zxV37NIbp8OVQd4ii6b0ItA+ChIQckibdCkonYL+z3l v2835dmgfwrpzujBQVgj02+BmSy0WaZCtsGjCcgGr6nbqpTrYQd07Xl8JC5cVdnbqT0Q V3n+nXGJEYDURuN6JPAaTkGuX/517XYy3Mkd+z+X5anYMfvaP38jAdUMSCkCFmaP8nxS 5Ep/B9R3GP6GbR8wWKlHPYPIJrmc6+6fgPzOth7GAO6eB5FT5V7u5+sXqmRkAkTn+FEe EJ5w== o19mr1531436vdh.35.1384895043351; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:04:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.59.7.195 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 13:04:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:04:03 -0600 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Minimal TD work Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, Here's an early look at my TD's interior. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/1953%20TD%20018.jpg The seats are vinyl and appear to be homemade. Upon opening the driver's seat, the homemade interpretation is probably confirmed. Here are a couple of looks at the wooden frame with the foam and raffia removed. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1498.JPG http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1497.JPG I'll use wood filler in all the nail and staple holes followed by MinWax Wood Hardner on everything. One can tell by the light weight that a lot of the wood's strength is reduced. Wood Hardner infills the voids in old wood and re-hardens it. This process, like paint, also seals the surface of the porous material, and prevents that 'old car' smell. Now, to us, that smell says, "Yeehaa, another cool car project!", but to my wife it evokes, "I'm not getting in that old car. It stinks." Here's a look at the underside of the old upholstery. The rose print is a nice touch! http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1499.JPG Just for giggles, I placed the spare tire on carrier. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1500.JPG And before someone gets offended, yes that is my license plate and I don't mind who sees it. After all, it IS on the outside of my car as required by law. And speaking of issues that offend, I have chosen to install the 'incorrect' sill plates on my TD. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1502.JPG And just for eye-candy, here's a look at the instrument panel, as received. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/Instrument_before.jpg And after. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1504.JPG Fun! Happy Tuesday, -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 19 16:04:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDF042F57 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:04:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f180.google.com (mail-vc0-f180.google.com [209.85.220.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFE74403ED; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:00:46 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id if17so1705699vcb.25 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:59:42 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SDQoaABJmaR+ut+jhbsMGXYtEVPr4lmZpwqBvrqOsD4=; b=xfVLNprc0+U7yLA7QlLxq2pZ1rrpUW0lz3pgAgQrfibPP6e44aIFMbEtR4Thp/6cjq FyVniT0CSACqTXpcLQ9SBzck1q+s2E/C9g6A3u4hv+BTYyxEcoevrKF+kB9X11xWddaq ORtao2D7qK/RcjZDRy+0LfNpjFZX4p8ctQQ/I0hpMQKtPDbiO3ANpID/7JVlTORVdELO 4arS9FYqQZXViyb6nPvEMF4zst7sfKyMZMAFvXisx6AVgDxY1HI/6kZwqc8wKRB6HJGE r2nyJgPtEKgwuNUulObrr1szLg/B50I72jCb3Svwabqq+MkphvO+0DT1UZ3PEd3lwtHN /2FA== Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:59:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.59.7.195 with HTTP; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:59:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:59:42 -0600 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] A little more work on the TD seat Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi again Friends, This afternoon, after posting the seat pictures to the list, I went back to the garage for a little more work. I wanted to do some work to prep for tomorrow. First up, I drilled out the totally-rusted-solid screws and removed the seat rails. Here's how it looked. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1505.JPG I then pulled the last of the tacks and staples out, as well as the t-nuts, and sanded the wood a bit, mostly to clean it. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1506.JPG I then applied masking tape to the bottom of the T-nut holes, flipped it over and applied wood filler. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1507.JPG I flipped it over and filled the 3.28125x10^23 tack holes, leaving everything to dry until tomorrow. I'll then sand again, drill out neat new holes for new t-nuts and paint it with Wood Hardener. I cleaned the seat back attachment and its ready for paint. And before giving up for the day, I cleaned the seat rails on the wire wheel. They came out nicely but I didn't get any photos. Tomorrow I'll get a thin coat of aluminum paint on them and mount them back on the wooden base. The other half of the seat rail assembly is remarkably clean. A tiny bit of attention on the wheel and a blast of aluminum paint and the rails will be done! A trip to Ace for new hardware and the base will be ready to mount. Well, after reupholstering. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 20 06:51:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E2C42FD6 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 06:51:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f51.google.com (mail-oa0-f51.google.com [209.85.219.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C8440520; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 06:50:57 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-oa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id i7so5285233oag.24 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 05:49:51 -0800 (PST) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=V1JB9bof8friPg8ZGXD0KPUCA8VnPN/v1QdV/eZKoaE=; b=qsUoE5abexuCmb+U/x/ol8OS+YlhMkAk9YHLo65ZpR8PDzxDBCCumZfQGFTyqCU3eb zJMzRkLk/BBZ45EM1QgivH9tYr696lvLcztkfZ/jDnCU93qyluUtOO+SmjJzaaF4ahMJ 3Dls07e/+TIurmWSQaS31pq5PhwQbK3Zdivu2hbchmBjiWzZFxgZh66UqHFfbUR9N62d o3Fw8E4J0VOra4GdlEOsgeYQWUCieLCTJqd5WlrcAwhDwr5qNfae13t5r/AFW96y83Qr OmO3gnIzQHogd+BrgAUCRmwZNoUVwz1DmHRv2fc5dNY3KS/x65OHxM1iyuCusC6GF1Tt Xz5Q== Wed, 20 Nov 2013 05:49:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.68] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id z5sm36568146obg.13.2013.11.20.05.49.49 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Nov 2013 05:49:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 07:49:48 -0600 From: Rick Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, tr3a@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Mg-t] Almost marketing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, I know 'For Sale' posts are frowned upon on most car lists, but nice opportunities may be acceptable. We shall see.B Many of you may know that I bought my '53 TD from listmember, Bill Schooler, up in Maryland. Bill is a good and trustworthy guy. The car I bought from him is a project and was described expertly, just as it existed. If anything, my car was a little better than Bill described it. I bought it sight-unseen, except for pictures. Why am I telling you all this? Bill has another TD that I considered before buying mine. Its a quite rare and complete RHD '53 TD, B and that had great appeal. I don't buy cars as investments but neither do I like throwing money away. My classic car restoration addiction has to self-fund or my retirement scheme collapses. In the end, I bought the LHD car but only because I live in Houston, Texas, the land of 80mph pickups and SUVs. A 54hp car can't get out of their way very easily. This is a challenge for any small car here, especially for one with mirror-image symmetry. B Okay, again I ask; Why am I telling you this? The answer is simple. I have learned that Bill still has the RHD '53 TD and it would make a great, valuable project for someone - especially the kind of restorer who does his own work. So there is the (almost) 'For Sale' part of my note. I hope you read this as exposing an opportunity to acquire an intriguing project. I just wish I had room for another car. Sadly, I have NINE. I think I said I'm an addict... -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 20 09:49:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 869A742FED for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 09:49:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f45.google.com (mail-vb0-f45.google.com [209.85.212.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC300403A5; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 09:48:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vb0-f45.google.com with SMTP id p14so444722vbm.32 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 08:47:51 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=FJfTHkBNr0/YDRJmyn/Nvv3SHEF/Fp8O3os5y+G6Oxo=; b=o2sTZYNJS6l9XbAzJiV4csGMk4bk5FTBw2uwdmgeww9eNRQp5O0kYXBWwbIx030Klz 6+jdH4uB/E06UgK/QsBi/px4RwbrBPtILXflrq/2aSsGdsg4UGbviSODNRveTUoyQRA+ 307WufmfdLMYBcpnvNMRPETS5gfG9rxdnk5XX5GyNNGoA4K8Rfqfyov1kYLAq3/wpj6j 5cXKUEYav9fSGfpmnujq7+L6QHUReLcIQ7VH3Eeb4mneJDgg7jLkZ0476tRJX3ovYTbO +8Ps0qKzhV0g83uGIbY9F/aA3XcM+k7a2W6Xxhrzf1YOUjhHW1C50Lc1mpnEyCyGquYz ZsLw== Wed, 20 Nov 2013 08:47:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.59.7.195 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 08:47:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:47:51 -0600 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Wood eye?! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Friends, Just one picture for now. I found it interesting that in addition to the plywood, the factory used just any wood they had for the seat base. In this picture you can see that two thirds of the seat's support frame is pine, or some other white wood, while one side of the support is mahogany! Its just a cool quirk of the time. They used what they had. Kinda makes one think that the white wood may be cut from left-over pallets. Certainly looks like it. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131120_100447.jpg The glossiness is from the wood hardener, still wet in this flash picture. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 20 12:31:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806D342FF6 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:31:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7336740452 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:23:26 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id lc6so627656vcb.27 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:22:18 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4brj1ONqt/M1xjg1zgm5F0SeRVFOIKU6zcEFwCCgBWA=; b=dbDyU2PENppgA4qLC/Hs0QlTHNzg3e/a5TTZtDxx7yQFt8F8y9ekTeh04Uy0DZvqHf 1Gks8FdOGIzhgolwEavn7rhwp0tqAQMVY23N9dsifI5CXFAM4ArNsDxZtJny1DM6iFVr QYbrXO/EEuJ7KriQV4DIEbNEEdFrarTkeVLdgKNMlLL+3VlXWsOcnT01PS5Ac9ZUVhao pbljvVcOKHuEaojS089HFUc296ZAQE0iql7bPWvP5SwxcUJjpiBIqrXKnsnsoimrxPiT R70g6bhjbIDF85QuKsK1b9Hq1JAMdyTwrOxheWosiobhkesHDDKcvgRiQTPcVe94zx66 eUWg== ta7mr1783471veb.23.1384975338087; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:22:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.59.7.195 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:22:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:22:17 -0600 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: [Mg-t] TD seat foam Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, I just opened my Moss seat foam kit (640-348) only to find the foam noticeably larger than the base. For those of you who have used this product, do you just work the foam into the space available, kinda like pre-loading? Or are these 'sponges' trim-to-fit? My gut tells me the former but I ask for your sage knowledge. Thanks. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 20 12:37:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A4A42FD7 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:37:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C4D040521 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:36:37 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1384976129; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=aVYDx+Q5kvuZX5cNSW7y+ggaC1oCknEkLzySs3aR1vEWY0o+gokmKyBperZ2v4diT 4Bc3zJ4qoHWxIvGFptusXzppWGHFYcPxPr0U58M/KIcJKswC83MzqqR2++DYbVnIRN 3xkNMWJiVUL0wySK4VRbKv1MBisDrhW8cig96x1E= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.102]) by smtpout03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABKJ4DZTAG6LWD2 for (sender ); Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:35:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from [108.88.216.197] by webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:34:32 GMT From: "mgbob@juno.com" Full-Name: "mgbob@juno.com" Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:34:32 GMT To: richardolindsay@gmail.com Cc: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mg-t] TD seat foam Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Foams from that source may vary. Many MGB people say that their new Moss foams were much taller than the old foams, and that their legs don't fit under the steering wheel. The MGB foams I got a year or two ago were fine as received, though , and fit perfectly. No experience with TD foams. Bob ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Richard Lindsay To: "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: [Mg-t] TD seat foam Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:22:17 -0600 Hi Friends, I just opened my Moss seat foam kit (640-348) only to find the foam noticeably larger than the base. For those of you who have used this product, do you just work the foam into the space available, kinda like pre-loading? Or are these 'sponges' trim-to-fit? My gut tells me the former but I ask for your sage knowledge. Thanks. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 20 14:36:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBAEA4300D for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 14:36:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EAC242F3E for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 14:25:38 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=EN3QmoLMFwSmidUOeoszmPpz02EwatbIUPYvXCK1HgaJNmECa3t3C24zApE3Ayb5; h=Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [99.186.194.143] (helo=[192.168.1.33]) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VjFGA-00033l-37; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:24:30 -0500 From: John Seim Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:24:29 -0800 References: To: Richard Lindsay Cc: "mg-t@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mg-t] TD seat foam Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net The foam that I have received from Moss Motors, is a heavy density foam. The Dunlop Pillowblock foam that was used by the factory would be classified as a medium density foam. Compresses more than high density. You want to side below the top of the windshield, not at eye level with it. You can get medium density foam at most upholstery stores. And, you can cut it with an electric carving knife. John Seim Irvine, CA On Nov 20, 2013, at 11:22 AM, Richard Lindsay wrote: > Hi Friends, > > I just opened my Moss seat foam kit (640-348) only to find the foam > noticeably larger than the base. For those of you who have used this > product, do you just work the foam into the space available, kinda > like pre-loading? Or are these 'sponges' trim-to-fit? My gut tells me > the former but I ask for your sage knowledge. Thanks. > > -rick > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/kingseim@earthlink.net ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 20 16:36:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F71742FFF for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:36:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f179.google.com (mail-ve0-f179.google.com [209.85.128.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD064044B; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 16:36:26 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ve0-f179.google.com with SMTP id jw12so3337210veb.10 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 15:35:17 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/Ft83JIN5qFa2nizkqIMIYuPqnoHWydCGVAfnXTTP7Q=; b=u39dOpuGFAnArWWWh1+IlsEOifXqqdB5fEIC0T9PCamI21P4Fvf9DTQgw8gDCSHFmQ qaMBxwZSG/vjkx5ZUwC52wnOgLGguFw3IR+spkI7IEuc5qx8z9fcgqRvi8SXDpxGsjId 7FSRue3zSTUa78tb1bd4wohXoGN3fKLXvBBVuB4SQXAieR2nJE/3zNedPw3zgcvQfm0O Xp9Ogtxsau++NGIutI/A4YTZWzHcoNBChdnlE2cVY7TV0Bw1RHRQmeZebQv4qfKcnRlB FXFWkkZVyFu+PQUqqfXEKStloIr4Rah82syrIhFev4EehCrI8BpYGyb0IWa5o3uAjUyN /XzA== dy5mr2733667vcb.3.1384990517352; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 15:35:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.59.7.195 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 15:35:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:35:17 -0600 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mg-t] Seat bases and garages Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, Here's a look at the driver's seat base with the new t-nuts installed. I went further and installed the nicely refinished seat rails on the base to verify alignment. The rails move smoothly along their entire path. Once everything is done, I'll lightly grease them. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131120_124700.jpg Humidity has gone through the roof and now its raining. I used the last of my time today cleaning the garage and guess what?! I found a concrete floor under all that debris! http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131120_164808.jpg Tomorrow, I'll see what's under the parts on the workbenches. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 21 09:32:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC74E42EEF for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:32:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yh0-f50.google.com (mail-yh0-f50.google.com [209.85.213.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5E042B12 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 09:29:47 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-yh0-f50.google.com with SMTP id b6so3840304yha.23 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 08:28:35 -0800 (PST) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=n93vWxL+ovnowQ/PzGPbHjcT5CAfuKrspPjrmnN3tNY=; b=nXT+gPVgVFwOq1WnxSu52W8eppLcSyaU/clkJzDu2ocVpsYOV/odUOTb9+8wgDppsq GJBujh+7TYF1L5qesbJDLyaZGol4h+r4LiMUFeMyz38B6pDAPdaChAtgpnCjhDZy17QA odoVqUCtK3dTLwwwKirp7xcPU+2t1po8JquJTcv7B+XZLT6VlJig7LWYj8WtaP/R+g7f Zn6wRTnzOfRThZcOOF17fFZgpM6BPdY4R+aGV9IfkoH1DKYKulKTgWiDrO2NyGV4d7jL Em2bhPLltiMg6wFIliKG8C+BEctt+QhNvq5qH1JZaE5gdvXdbMdeoyeZV7NrpbiyksAg /NsA== d67mr897552yhe.113.1385051315384; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 08:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?IPv6:2600:100d:b027:d1b7:4215:37d5:636b:7710? ([2600:100d:b027:d1b7:4215:37d5:636b:7710]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 9sm50078980yhe.21.2013.11.21.08.28.32 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 21 Nov 2013 08:28:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 10:28:29 -0600 From: Rick Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Changes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, Took my TD's bonnet and doors to the paint shop. Good news is that my wings and valences haven't yet been painted. That was the plan for today. I have decided to have everything painted Autumn Red, rather than paint the wings black. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 21 17:53:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D8C42F4B for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:53:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com (mail-oa0-f41.google.com [209.85.219.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751DA4043F for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:49:11 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id j17so641121oag.28 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:47:57 -0800 (PST) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=/z5x4PBhZ+9NOvN/E+xfR5dyI52Ce9Ge6ZURt0AptL4=; b=G8Rb16hi0XZuk8YB5lqBdi9llmnbsit2aevBqSIiTTfKtw8GIN6jKH/VZggOAdasLc h/V7y9PX/ug5SjQmUEfeP9dPtdH+M1xTCVW3R7tEJBW9nzaByVgfK9zO0uhtwWe4Zeed QZbe1si7Hb1r6X0ZdowsWk2yGTCo9zkhp9iARpjDeBLpllNWVhfVmSqUGzceEJPgXgTL NBr7U44OCvIRK9EO1uvcA2aW+QzA9LRlX08YKu5nD6rZzk1BNc8tKFx7yru7b2EcdFKX iCPTKwDvO8dO6JM8pD+1p9FzQYlVOk5j+hHYWYrF/zCfT/MEtoVFFx0lkzsRL/ivtRyn 48BQ== vj2mr8218301obb.26.1385081277238; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:47:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.68] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id j9sm2694514oef.8.2013.11.21.16.47.56 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 21 Nov 2013 16:47:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:47:54 -0600 From: Rick Lindsay To: mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Wings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Guys, I got to see my TD's front wings, sans paint, this morning. One wing has seen 'a little action'. Its been bent (a little) and straightened (nicely) and one edge had been braised to repair a split (about a half inch long). Otherwise, B the metal's good. If you have followed any of my notes you know that I painted the tub in the garage. It came out great (Not my first rodeo.) but the smell almost cost me a divorce! Therefore, everything else is getting painted professionally.B Everything else should be back B from the painter within two (more) weeks. -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 22 04:56:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0724F42EF1 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 04:56:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-2.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-2.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8EE142EF1 for ; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 04:56:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from cypress ([86.8.152.135]) by know-smtprelay-2-imp with bizsmtp id sbvR1m01o2vXtG601bvSoU; Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:55:26 +0000 a=PwYPgAp4zzY326Yfju+9Og==:117 a=PwYPgAp4zzY326Yfju+9Og==:17 a=sPCf_YRMkWkA:10 a=uObrxnre4hsA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=OVyIjWZ4C0AA:10 a=4eUtTC6Onj0BzgAMAMUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 From: "Clive Sherriff" To: References: Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 11:55:27 -0000 Subject: [Mg-t] Instrument Glasses - Flat, Curved? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Here is one I'm quite stumped on. Some Speedos and Tachos sometimes have flat glass, others convex curved away from the instrument dash. I have seen have seen various dials on TA through TB, TC and TD that have either a flat or a curved glass. Similarly for Ammeters, Oil gauges etc. Were, perhaps pre war flat and post war curved? were they all curved? was flat original ? etc. etc. (At least I've definately never seen a concave one!) Obviously it's much easier to replace a broken glass with a flat one, and cheaper. So can anyone give a definitive originality view on this please, great articles by Doug P and John Marks etc I've seen don't refer to this. Clive Oxford, UK = =============================== ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive