From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:17 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE66258690B for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2014 14:27:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B993258008A for ; Sat, 31 May 2014 14:20:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8kKy1o0020S2fkCA9kLsBH; Sat, 31 May 2014 20:20:52 +0000 Received: from yourmb2swywknr ([98.223.26.205]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8kLn1o00F4RWySi8VkLrBC; Sat, 31 May 2014 20:20:51 +0000 From: "Bob Donahue" To: "mg-t" Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 16:21:03 -0400 s=q20140121; t=1401567652; bh=QzeDwGGvpEp+qQaHwua8GhnquOBwTPvuIXNCe9KrxOQ=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=M9JpSP712glTaLQQ9lEraXuns+II3XXeW/gQL4Ia3J813SC+vE52Wx3L6RzWffFO8 gvuwyTXYQboPqFOl19rLWeYrU3YhTTmyl9esKXrAlcM8xt9quZcakxvMX+PmDTecKY 61JknYrvYlWGjIwCOzuf3SM8Txejr7mAA8Hs2V2WfUId5abHPHYsKUQY+x06VBT0yc q9chaU0vO0IeUHEwR2KwU/gslNzkwZl9o8yltmf6/ygrCDre1oDptSNy624lq2JZ8r aplv/245EOWuJZXIbqPrJFTLUGVeaBRShZ1ZKneo6mhNKOHAlkZXjKsqWlbHEgjXZA PPnV+Zknu+n+g== Subject: [Mg-t] Help, tachometer cable too short now Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I installed one of Jerry's alternators with the tach drive on my TD. The alternator mounted just fine, but now the tach cable is too short. What can I do? Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) Email - bobmgtd@comcast.net Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 Member: NEMGTR #11470 NAMGBR # 7-3336 Hoosier MGB Club Olde Octagons of Indiana ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:28 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1CD72584F74 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 07:24:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f46.google.com (mail-oa0-f46.google.com [209.85.219.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90FE2584745 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 07:22:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id m1so297471oag.19 for ; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 06:22:27 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:mime-version :content-type; bh=0J4KrNip8Yo8TmIG7J2b/7DXP9/4ABl5jDdR+qSP3MA=; b=nqtlo7MdvcO1Mq+xEbXrpBR8H76JZEwWaDnxBwStP1pQwtKJwGMh4vZYpzu1bDgJ1b Gffc+PPatrKwNwXtckHvwXbI7uL2/qj1t+gYapBj3oN7s1oUxWVHlG7ji/Qm7G16+Fl9 /U4CwmwNyRGGguuvCdsmJ+dkAzT9ARUXWI6KJZQZn1rK3RsOfb8fFOyGmheHS4kZ1E0Q ztkCp3AWzsd5xf5WBXvt7O4hPAJ6NxV7mOOVoYaUk3rczvZ4dxEce2hzQ/Dbve/mpxFs XNtRu1gSBEUyPNv2i48Z3bG/+lla4cgJgGOXs2lR6WKFnukyWFr8bZ7aMLMElnZtLPEw DNLQ== dq7mr670570obb.42.1403612457953; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 05:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (107-192-135-76.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.135.76]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n18sm402756oem.4.2014.06.24.05.20.56 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 24 Jun 2014 05:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 07:20:54 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: MG Subject: [Mg-t] Restart Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Hi Friends,B Long time, no type! Just a quick update this morning; The project that interrupted work on my TD is reaching conclusion. I have about another long weekend to go and the Volvo 1800ES will be done-ish. Yea, there's always a little more work needed but the project will be drivable and gorgeous shortly. That means I can get back to work on the really fun car. So my update this morning is more of a restart report than an update. I hope to retire my modern tools and be back pulling metric and Whitworth spanners shortly. A current status and as-is pictures to follow, as the fun resumes. Until then... -rick, '53 TD, etc. ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:30 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DE2258052A for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2014 07:59:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mg-t@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f51.google.com (mail-oa0-f51.google.com [209.85.219.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80452580403 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2014 07:59:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id j17so6922844oag.24 for ; Sat, 28 Jun 2014 06:59:46 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:mime-version :content-type; bh=/YT/wBwYVCOAvoy5CUqR9ITxKY+TjdRo7J9lJ6WdQqA=; b=FUvh/MV/W6mw7XCwwQKk/IC4nH0MvpqZ+slvzCgyRcNhDqS+Tl4Oo7HkQFNuysVgmv fhkWchOSr2r95GLoWvGfnW9QQnYCw7RQDAOKW22qMvMWHyXdy6WbU8RiPOx/4UzIbZg5 zZTMZhRSqcSTsul3ZpLgp6rAEK2PvHfxifniYTM3GRbPWuIBJK++Hpo4Gvp8dCAV2eXs xAah6j00bVmtmqqoXnvt+aQWiXv6gVnmj+AjgIe8b+equwPFULE9Em5b0jfwtNMay1pS 94P0D6q9iglckLmqz3wuxiR39ibdk0ch98Vp5SKpY9TlZEdu+Fnfa6urGmMlNRE/CArs y81Q== dg10mr30177290oec.13.1403963986341; Sat, 28 Jun 2014 06:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (107-192-135-76.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.135.76]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id v1sm48333293oes.13.2014.06.28.06.59.45 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 28 Jun 2014 06:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2014 08:59:43 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: MG Subject: [Mg-t] OT - waxing philosophically Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mg-t-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Hi Friends, I wrote the note below to my Ferrari friends, in response to bold comments made by a new Ferrari 308GT4 owner. My words apply equally well to our MG-T community so I share them here. Just change 'Ferrari' to 'T-Series' as you read. And since the list is dead-quiet, I assume this OT post will not irritate the more marque-specific, list-rules-sensitive members. One of the fascinating things about Ferraris is how the same car can satisfy such a broad spectrum of interests. We're all familiar with the boastful comment, "I don't polish them, I drive them." and that probably represents one end-member of a multi-dimentional spectrum. Others spend their lives polishing and perhaps researching the perfect custom car cover. On yet another axis, people like me enjoy taking them apart and rebuilding them the way God and Enzo intended. And like most systems in this realm, rarely is an end-member the ideal explanation. As expressed above, we scientists might discribe this space on a ternary diagram, or a graph in the shape of a triangle. (My sister-in-law says I can talk the romance out of anything.) Each corner of the triangle is an end-member representing some parameter. Distance from that point represents diminishing values of that parameter, terminating in zero value at the opposite side. And of course, one need not stop at three values, although axes beyond four (a tetrahedron or three-sided pyramid) is difficult to visualize. Anyway, if one puts 'driver' on one corner, 'polisher' on the next, and 'mechanic' on the third, (or wishes to be really obtuse and puts something like 'frugality' on the teyrahedron's fourth corner), a space is defined within which we all might fall. Leaving out 'frugality', I might fall somewhere between 'mechanic' and 'polisher', nearer to the 'mechanic' point and farther from the 'driver' corner. Our previously mentioned friend, Mr. Ric Rainbolt, might fall between the 'mechanic' and 'driver' points and only a little further away from 'polisher'. New 308GT4 owner Mr. Francis Newman fits somewhere between 'driver' and 'polisher' and further from the 'mechanic' corner. However, that position is probably moving as courage improves. A guy like my dear friend, Dr. Rui Gigante, might fall in the exact middle of the diagram, loving equally well, all three aspects! But there in lies a problem with the classification, to be addressed later. Yea, I can take the romance out of anything. :-P The next step and the more fascinating process (at least to me) is to view this analysis not as a static system, as a snapshot taken at some point in time, but rather, as a dynamic system, changing with time. Imagine the position of that dot that describes my (or your) Ferrari disposition in ternary space, on the day you bought your car. Now imagine how that dot may have moved since that exciting day. For me, the dot moved toward the 'mechanic' corner and away from the 'polisher' point, and even further away from the 'driver' point. This tells me that I would rather tinker and restore my car(s) than drive them (or polish them)! Strange position for a Ferrari owner given that however beautiful, these are often classed as 'driver's cars'! Perhaps it also explains why my daily driver is is a Porsche Cayman! In my ternary space the p-bug is heavily biased towards the 'driver' point, and with a bit of 'polish'. My 'dot' has to be way away from the 'mechanic' corner for that car seeing as how in almost 4 years, I have never even seen the engine...and I have no desire to ever do so. :-o As illuded to above, a drawback of using a ternary diagram for this kind of analysis is that one parameter is always related to at least one of the other two. For example, Rui's position in the very center of the ternary diagram might imply that he has only half-interest in each of the three parameters - and we all know that's anything but true! Perhaps we could better describe the interests in orthogonal 3-space. That way each parameter is independent of the other two. In that space, Rui's resultant vector or point in 3-space, would be equally strong in all three categories. And while that case might be true, orthogonal 3-space doesn't describe the, "I don't polish them, I drive them" quote. That phrase indicates that the speaker professes the interest must be one OR the other - and that implies dependance. And as such, the parameters can't be orthogonal!B So perhaps the conclusion one must draw at the end of this boring post is that our interests in Ferrari ownership defy simple, conventional analysis and elude complete understanding. And perhaps that's why its so hard to explain to others why we love these machines! Okay, its Saturday here in the western hemisphere so I'm off to the garage to wring the romance out of yet another love affair: my Volvo 1800ES.B And when that's done, its back to the MG TD! Happy Saturday, -rick ______________________________________________ Mg-t@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive