From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 23 09:35:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3B042FB8 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 09:35:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgb-v8@autox.team.net Received: from beta.look.ca (beta.look.ca [216.66.192.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7456D40075 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 09:34:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from e120-pool-d89a45c3.brdbnd.telnetcommunications.com ([216.154.69.195] helo=Barrie-PC.look.ca) by beta.look.ca with esmtpa (user vectis@look.ca)(Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VZ0Ri-0005uH-6u for mgb-v8@autox.team.net; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:34:06 -0400 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:34:08 -0400 To: mgb-v8@autox.team.net From: Barrie Robinson Subject: [Mgb-v8] Batteries Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net My high torque starter (from Ted Schumacher) went awol and the repair chap here says it maybe because my battery is sick - well it should be it is very very old. It is a 26 is it not? Any recommendations as the repair chap bad mouthed Sears, Canadian Tire, Wal-Mart etc - saying they sell Chinese stuff ! Regards, Barrie Barrie Robinson MGB GT V8 in concours condition Aston Martin DB 2/4 MkII under restoration www.AMFClub.com www.britcot.com www.vectisgroup.ca barrie@look.ca Barrie, Ontario 705-721-9060 _______________________________________________ Mgb-v8@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 24 01:53:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE6143528 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 01:53:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgb-v8@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F05431D0 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 01:39:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-9-imp with bizsmtp id gveS1m00v4LtS4201veSDN; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 08:38:26 +0100 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=9ZCA8KZkG3AA:10 a=X5SPcx43QaIGwdIesE4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: , "Barrie Robinson" References: Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 08:17:29 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] Batteries Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net I don't really see how a battery being sick can damage a starter by itself. The only thing I can think of at the moment is that for whatever reason the engine wouldn't start, and you just kept cranking and cranking, burning out either the solenoid or the motor, which would be 'user misoperation'! Oh yes, and another is that it's been cooked from heat from the right-hand down-pipe, because the heat-shield is either missing or inadequate. My standard starter failed - solenoid gradually lost it's mojo - which is a symptom of this heat damage. The heat shield was only a tin plate, originally OK when it was shiny both sides I suppose, but as develops surface rust the amount of heat it radiates towards the starter gets more and more. I fitted one from Clive Wheatley which was a rigid, shaped board of heat insulation material about 3/16" thick. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > My high torque starter (from Ted Schumacher) went awol and the repair chap > here says it maybe because my battery is sick _______________________________________________ Mgb-v8@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 28 21:47:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B520B434D5 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:47:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgb-v8@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc4-s12.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc4-s12.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.214]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6061430B7 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:22:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY172-W8 ([65.54.190.199]) by bay0-omc4-s12.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 28 Oct 2013 20:19:51 -0700 From: James Bown To: "mgb-v8@autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:19:51 -0600 References: , <480AA5C4E25641E5AE926466BC343D25@paul> FILETIME=[BB1FDFA0:01CED455] Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] Batteries Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net The original message brought into question batteries from Sears, Walmart, K-Mart, etc.Those stores and others get their batteries from Johnson Controls.This blurb regarding Johnson Controls is interesting:"Johnson Controls designs and manufactures automotive batteries for passenger cars, heavy and light duty trucks, utility vehicles, motorcycles, golf carts and boats. It supplies more than one third of the worlds lead-acid batteries to automakers and aftermarket retailers including Wal-Mart, Sears and BMW. Lead acid battery brands produced by Johnson Controls include OPTIMA, Heliar, LTH, and VARTA automotive batteries. Johnson Controls also manufactures Lithium-ion cells and complete battery systems to power hybrid and electric vehicles such as the Ford Fusion and Daimlers S-Class 400. Additionally, it manufactures Absorbent Glass Matt (AGM) and Enhanced Flooded Batteries (EFB) batteries to power start-stop vehicles such as the Chevy Malibu and Ford Fusion. As of 2012, the business unit operated from 60 locations worldwide. " _______________________________________________ Mgb-v8@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 29 05:27:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C06742AB9 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 05:27:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgb-v8@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9980F4281B for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 05:26:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-9-imp with bizsmtp id izQn1m00Z4LtS4201zQpwv; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 11:24:49 +0000 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=9ZCA8KZkG3AA:10 a=84tk0esKxDeBuUmLXvAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: References: , <480AA5C4E25641E5AE926466BC343D25@paul> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 08:13:00 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] Batteries Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgb-v8-bounces@autox.team.net But built to whose spec? Whose label is on them? Many years ago I was involved with buying switches from a Japanese company and they asked "How long do you want them to last?". We had sets of samples with different 'specs' and each batch lasted for that spec and little more. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > The original message brought into question batteries from Sears, Walmart, > K-Mart, etc.Those stores and others get their batteries from Johnson > Controls.... _______________________________________________ Mgb-v8@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive