From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 2 11:22:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F7F4281F for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 11:22:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from beta.look.ca (beta.look.ca [216.66.192.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FE094276B; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 11:22:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from e120-pool-d89a45f4.brdbnd.telnetcommunications.com ([216.154.69.244] helo=tower.look.ca) by beta.look.ca with esmtpa (user vectis@look.ca)(Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UjBuX-0003VG-E0; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 13:17:41 -0400 Date: Sun, 02 Jun 2013 13:15:44 -0400 To: mgb-v8@autox.team.net,mgs@autox.team.net From: Barrie Robinson Subject: [Mgs] Seat belts and wiper arm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone got inertial reel seat belts and/or wiper arm (13") for an MGB for sale.? Regards, Barrie Robinson barrie@look.ca 705-721-9060 MGB GT V8 in great nick Aston Martin 1957 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm www.britcot.com www.AMFClub.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 06:30:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F50642C7B for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 06:30:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f177.google.com (mail-ie0-f177.google.com [209.85.223.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A565942B24 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 06:30:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f177.google.com with SMTP id u16so7651336iet.36 for ; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 05:26:10 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=CrK6xJSCvjZoXtPfkKwTZQC+CwFYpY8OgoTEXT6PTpQ=; b=m7yvzpYSsBB3kP2wuyCQ3KmiXK8DMYw/873mPEOHcc7TK5DRiNrCh8E/djC0ZpZfuV Rk445VDACrxEwWTNA3KcRo4s/VOS3xliLzGzYobE4XNwdGrOwF1nufXPql5s6nVY8sEZ eC307X8lni2wvZfNg+vTtg0fGkLReS2r3F7jONnJ8NUYh3PFKqZ0/b5i6bs5bciZP0ID 5GVp84b56rOlL+60y5vR0mnShjiQgx7OnNAHQENdXZ1XJYuIaR4L4kCixsOJTlnyBY97 jjh6blNB3BpXwmSZSLHNVw9PmQauxAXixgaKtJ6Ph3LrGF9ouBSF/57Y6gaLepoCQlfa wy+w== k16mr10275346icc.43.1370262370152; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 05:26:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [204.147.87.126] ([204.147.87.126]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qn10sm19320223igc.6.2013.06.03.05.26.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Jun 2013 05:26:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Root Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 07:26:09 -0500 To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] So close Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net After a miserable May, Saturday, I finally got 2 consecutive hours that I could get out in the garage and work on the car. At the end of April, I pulled the car out of storage. It wouldn't turn over. We talked about it, and many suspected the engine to chassis ground. But all was fine. I pulled the starter and took it into O'Reilly. It was bad. They got me a new one (guaranteed for life), and it sat on the work bench. I got the starter in Saturday night. Then went to hook up the battery, stripped bolt. I used a vice grip to test. And the car started. Went to O'Reilly, get the bolt, and a couple other little things. Everything buttoned up, the car is ready. Yesterday, there was no time, long honey-do list. This morning, its 50F, I'm driving it to work. And I get a mile. I come to a stop sign and I hear something funny, like a fan hitting a piece of paper. Yes, it's in sync with engine speed. Then the ignition light comes on solid. Drive back home. Pop the hood. No fan belt. I'm pretty sure I have a belt in my box of stuff. Get that on, and we'll try again tomorrow! Paul. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 07:55:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BD342CCB for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 07:55:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5A742CA7 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 07:55:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.145] by nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jun 2013 13:51:01 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.224] by tm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jun 2013 13:51:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1033.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jun 2013 13:51:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 71449 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Jun 2013 13:51:01 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370267461; bh=HbLBeHs8HDXhOwqLVlhn8aTxwTU83qzweig3Nl55U/4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2wJdl+p3DbD6K1gS+kB+MSM4HI6WBOvgYjv5/uRAscgIGfK59n4LAZwVxfv3dqcCx7YYpB0p+1Yrn1m3hpCNHM2J8yLTl3KFJH+xR85iNp/XZJ1BuEERr2rol+Cy3xd7Zq4a93NslLruajhd6ly5Y6gv9p7RV7klVjsDhRYEpzg= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iz+kjNuMubokyLuH86MzkZuQICRtActjEfqIno89zw2AhdMFB8pqOHYC8wZ/fGwVaA8hYVb8JiyQXp9vjfDM6e52xMIQ54vTkEomZtFuDRaIhdTUZcqY+RKDFAZdDo/sCHnAXT1Wxk8Vh4Ji8HjkEke3UUPMmZH7AoOwPLiDM38=; B2G_BNzulZFV.msvCYnnb.yk8JP0AbHRw_SY2J9sfA_eMGoxVl_UnGwzAsTo SiF49lwhznex3Pkq5s8.FnDrpLysix5NTnKDAy.L0YWsKeiqsl4K.AIPuL26 ZjQdFTOgiGTfhCa6KSiQuQn7P8MqMkP9sT5Tu5Lyj7fWP1nVAr_TEoEAknH9 9QsNHDWwp7AyKkYigHZYw5i_0prlpMhAaqZLlNeGYUY5hunt4lzEutEjPQU7 9iPGFBA_I7YqSBvycgpJxOzgD16MA3yu_xMBZMGFE_2LcXgnCwg3i.5GZYBA Ihx8ay5ebDqmOkVBTNmg7Cc08EUyKjH7Wyp454SGawOPrElGG5mjArQB9ZkF URS7vmBy8vnxAJYvKUFciYWNXS38wzajE1k7HUI.5We01ATmagVEHmSCYUp2 ar5cgblBIBbEQqEK67pWuLEu8qUij3giDbfiVZApSrxMwgUANc7SP9qhrZ0. QnpGCYPe4nvdl59qJcGEkT5I7TaIg7mcWvLrD_x0h1axFvld4EHaM_eSv Received: from [68.44.138.78] by web164906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 06:51:01 PDT QXQgbGVhc3QgaXQgaGFzIGJlZW4gJ29uIHRoZSByb2FkJyEgVGhhdCdzIGEgc3RhcnQuLi4uCgpEcml2aW5nIGJhY2sgZnJvbSBicmVha2Zhc3Qgd2l0aCBvdXIgd2luZS1tYWtpbmcgZ3JvdXAgeWVzdGVyZGF5IGFtLCB0aGUgY2FyIHNwdXR0ZXJlZCBhbmQgZGllZCBvbiB0aGUgbWFpbiBzdHJlZXQgaW4gb3VyCm5laWdoYm9yaG9vZC4gUHVsbGVkIG92ZXIsIHRyaWVkIHRvIHJlc3RhcnQsIGFuZCBpdCB3b3VsZCBub3QgY2F0Y2guIFNhdCB0aGVyZSBmb3IgYSBzZWNvbmQgYW5kIHJlYWxpemVkIHRoYXQgSSABMAEBAQE- References: <8FBB58A6-7525-4B75-9C3E-0847AA689FB0@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 06:51:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan DiBiase To: Paul Root , "mgs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mgs] So close Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net At least it has been 'on the road'! That's a start.... Driving back from breakfast with our wine-making group yesterday am, the car sputtered and died on the main street in our neighborhood. Pulled over, tried to restart, and it would not catch. Sat there for a second and realized that I did not hear the fuel pump buzzing (not ticking - it's a generic electric cube pump). Popped the boot lid and saw that the bolt holding it to the side of the boot had loosened, so it wasn't grounding properly. Tightened that up, and voila, started right up! SWMBO was very impressed with my mechanical diagnostic ability, and I have to admit, I had a little small on my face pulling into our driveway.... Dan D '76B '65B Central NJ USA ________________________________ From: Paul Root To: mgs@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 8:26 AM Subject: [Mgs] So close After a miserable May, Saturday, I finally got 2 consecutive hours that I could get out in the garage and work on the car. At the end of April, I pulled the car out of storage. It wouldn't turn over. We talked about it, and many suspected the engine to chassis ground. But all was fine. I pulled the starter and took it into O'Reilly. It was bad. They got me a new one (guaranteed for life), and it sat on the work bench. I got the starter in Saturday night. Then went to hook up the battery, stripped bolt. I used a vice grip to test. And the car started. Went to O'Reilly, get the bolt, and a couple other little things. Everything buttoned up, the car is ready. Yesterday, there was no time, long honey-do list. This morning, its 50F, I'm driving it to work. And I get a mile. I come to a stop sign and I hear something funny, like a fan hitting a piece of paper. Yes, it's in sync with engine speed. Then the ignition light comes on solid. Drive back home. Pop the hood. No fan belt. I'm pretty sure I have a belt in my box of stuff. Get that on, and we'll try again tomorrow! Paul. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 08:52:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A33942E09 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 08:52:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f172.google.com (mail-vc0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4CD42CA7 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 08:52:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id ib11so1713909vcb.3 for ; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 07:48:01 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=aW0Cbxo3WWDk7dJjTW9m+Ax9+iAo0Wf8HjovW7eouE8=; b=ejAi+6m/BwtKhafNiZlDFwQ5ZJLvCY2y9AmAe1Tf7atGVvdBWfe8laQj6izPvMFwsf 0JUoOQ5ERiD19YhUaDiHyFZfBnj2oc7/5K8F8k6R18gopRn64jAccrmqOiGZztu5W6dA EdCeeaRss+aPj/ITpBq3Q40Z0Jd7UUciiZF7iLBZLx2sBDLryze7LS0rB9dZTERmjkhn Is+4VMe3A3TwE+j9OZfErlKPPHyZtUuqRF06C53uxnzCtUw9VikYqoAq0TaHWayUX2mF U9pLcTg6nkd4xG/BfmQEHXHiLOFQWW8XTxpPIwIzEzjAp1/2QXn+g+WsXK0sAjMt9Fr5 zd4A== yz6mr14287995vdb.6.1370270881643; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 07:48:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.225.231 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 07:48:01 -0700 (PDT) References: <8FBB58A6-7525-4B75-9C3E-0847AA689FB0@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 09:48:01 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: Paul Root Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] So close Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sounds like a pretty successful day! :-P On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Paul Root wrote: > After a miserable May, Saturday, I finally got 2 consecutive hours that I > could get out in the garage and work on the car. > > At the end of April, I pulled the car out of storage. It wouldn't turn over. > We talked about it, and many suspected the engine to chassis ground. But all > was fine. I pulled the starter and took it into O'Reilly. It was bad. They got > me a new one (guaranteed for life), and it sat on the work bench. > > I got the starter in Saturday night. Then went to hook up the battery, > stripped bolt. I used a vice grip to test. And the car started. Went to > O'Reilly, get the bolt, and a couple other little things. > > Everything buttoned up, the car is ready. > > Yesterday, there was no time, long honey-do list. > > This morning, its 50F, I'm driving it to work. And I get a mile. I come to a > stop sign and I hear something funny, like a fan hitting a piece of paper. > Yes, it's in sync with engine speed. > > Then the ignition light comes on solid. Drive back home. Pop the hood. No fan > belt. > > I'm pretty sure I have a belt in my box of stuff. Get that on, and we'll try > again tomorrow! > > Paul. > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/richardolindsay@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 09:25:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 899D742E28 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 09:25:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f176.google.com (mail-vc0-f176.google.com [209.85.220.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24FA42B81; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 09:25:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f176.google.com with SMTP id ha11so2686630vcb.7 for ; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 08:21:20 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2KJ7Er3dkRwRyJelqqNKI72uOnDHO7GyTkzNqiDNMAA=; b=jIL4Jym5Q55pXNk+mAC0oF2oxhaYye2uOc5ko1aAYvwadannVcPR02exPj3KU9eUSw KOL6Nk0izotqw7MNOekh5JbFl23v/0Av9mRcSLgopIghb8lTvWGGX2XRXSxQiNAXMXWL L1kCo0PlO5HewTmQSdB8CZ23KsyvqteVRkSiBEu4zvFo9abUlnjjlp6s+lPyoSrupUbW GVLfXEeubTvXNe0Gum7eNyS7vRq9M/YAzhAgmSiZlBFtnh/+kLuwrGfy8RvRaYKStDDF e8pT52amYo4+QIzcD+tlXIu5Pyd6bkZFqnksTiw0rfbiJRWvw4GweLJnHkRZRKIl420p +V4Q== n18mr16961109vck.15.1370272880126; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 08:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.225.231 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 08:21:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 10:21:19 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mgs] TD work starts again Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, I did a little cleaning today plus the first bit of reassembly. First up was installing the flex hose for the rear brakes. The hose didn't come with the copper sealing washer nor did it include the nut and lockwasher for the upstream end. Therefore, I used a new Cu washer and refinished the old nut and lockwasher. Here's how it looks now. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130603_092218.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130603_092224.jpg And that's as far as I could go. The new hard lines are due to arrive tomorrow. They are supplied simply coiled and therefore, have to shape them to the application. Fortunately, I have a tubing bending tool. With that tiny bit of work complete, I cleaned and sprayed the left rear spring mounts and shackles plus the battery bracket. Here they are with the paint drying. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130603_095000e.jpg You may have noticed that one of the shackle pins is still in the shackle. Its stuck. I could muscle it out but its just easier to clean it up in situ. No big deal and no buggered threads! Also arriving tomorrow will be all the rubber bits needed to reassemble the rear springs. With new rubber bushings in hand, I'll also be able to reassemble the whole left rear corner. While the suspension paint was drying I removed the manifolds. I had removed the carbs and exhaust earlier. The inlet manifold sits dirty on the workbench but the exhaust manifold has been restored. Here's how it looked right after removal and before cleaning with wire brushes. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130603_074142.jpg I don't have the equipment to spray aluminum vapor at home (or anywhere) so I used high heat paint. Once clean of surface rust and degreased, I sprayed it with high-heat manifold paint, using flat aluminum color. Here's hot it looks now. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130603_080448.jpg The manifold clamps were also aluminum coated so I painted them with the same manifold paint. Forgot to take a picture. Attachment nuts are black. Happy Monday! -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 13:50:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA31E430BB for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 13:50:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f176.google.com (mail-vc0-f176.google.com [209.85.220.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F7EC4307C; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 13:40:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f176.google.com with SMTP id ha11so2941076vcb.35 for ; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 12:36:17 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RGIBbzVLnsAmH3SkTM4owiQqa450UE+U5tAqGTevaOY=; b=KvyNeg2GuVpjtl9GrHCY9g7tQpAILqei3hrlW59Gn9S6aoFyaxxCIB1se5fw12LrOu fmqyua98FYaW+XFB36yHWtSpEpQ1jbLIjNz6faU+mtuyLTdcc0QB1Op7p+1tKsOBB5po xTgIeMv5/79V1rtvU6kMdQ84pTQ31eBrHK4rIEKPoOHn0nW9mOKJr25jY4CIwBiUIHfl Chj+j5ZfR7lq/y7aWdGKvtCK2d0ULTSJ+KldIsuvTTBJDBipC8bXEhr0JivS6xTuCRhj nbeGWAbYpgThxRAs0wRjVTBx52743sUHICNX/fMEASBm36U3IerS7WWxsbEGwToDyXv9 dCXw== Mon, 03 Jun 2013 12:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.225.231 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 12:36:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 14:36:16 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mgs] baby steps Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, A few more baby steps. Progress today is s_l_o_w because I have a cold. Between coughing fits and Snot River keeping me reaching for the Kleenex box, there's not much time left for twisting spanners. That said, I just had to play a little... The subject of my afternoon play-time is the 4-way hydraulic block up by the brake master cylinder. Here's how it looked before removal. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130603_133708.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130603_133722.jpg As you can see, I have not refinished the inner surface of the frame this far forward - because of the 4-way. Here's a look at the 4-way block now with the brake light switch attached and clean. The whole unit is threaded on to the back of a chopstix and sprayed with clearcoat. Its resting in the bench vice. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130603_140520.jpg For those who noticed the Darwin fish I must admit that there is also a Flying Spaghetti Monster to be found in some of my pictures! And for completeness, here's the 3-way block attached to the differential awaiting the new hard lines. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130603_141041.jpg Next up in the queue is to vacuum out the muffler to see if it has adequate throughput. Its not rusted and doesn't rattle like its full of rust when shaken. If it passes the shop-vac test, I'll just sand the case and the pipes, put on a quick coat of black paint and store it away. Should it later be a problem, its an easy part to replace, if a bit expensive. Following the exhaust is probably more frame refinishing or perhaps the rest of the prop shaft. And the new brake lines arrive tomorrow afternoon! Fun! -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 14:02:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E25B43125 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 14:02:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f48.google.com (mail-pa0-f48.google.com [209.85.220.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67969427AB for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 14:02:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id kp6so1029956pab.7 for ; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 12:57:50 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=+jpDTqLi6m8nCOIyFHEgxDs/3H45ZSjM9yyGVzaVGbU=; b=hk41egzRLzUA7WNs2xLmNr5YEgCp/xQiYhUBvIaCaoU/FNuC55MJziDZSnBebqKudT 3Oww9xjqA4SgkmhFOjdr8oJCV/yh2Uad3F//9f9y9E8Bcw7o3Y18wUnUjETM0uiHkCoA mNnTIEnSS/6LCYmMrQTrONuHMTGvv+arn/q5m4rtkhTEhY30Q0VBDa+sjcCVXnTjNoaW maa0zYjLtBgPuWrfP1KLn4veTMvoFvPHD1Ai7kgkyt7JS1i0brBAXgqj81obn9Xb37Hw oqrxjbcZVa3Q8Vx6hoku9YQ38ck/YRA7MHxYEHX/zI4mmBv78YlEL+/Ub3tQ7Ahu1aIs bhsw== tc10mr25704137pab.173.1370289470673; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 12:57:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lundgren-laptop.familysearch.org (ec2-184-73-197-243.compute-1.amazonaws.com. [184.73.197.243]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id cq1sm60213148pbc.13.2013.06.03.12.57.48 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 03 Jun 2013 12:57:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 13:57:46 -0600 From: Andrew Lundgren User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130510 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] Got the shag carpet ripped out of the trunk... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Now what to do about the hardened old nasty glue residue? I would like to get the glue remnants off the paint w/o damaging the paint. Is there any hope in that? I have 2 teenage boys that get to drive this car and can supply plenty of elbow grease! If not, I guess I could pick up a black trunk carpet kit, but I would rather just go bare metal at this point... -- Andrew _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 14:49:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F95431EC for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 14:49:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 114BA42D42 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 14:44:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (173-228-28-68.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [173.228.28.68]) (authenticated bits=0) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id r53KeDfh028672 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 13:40:13 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.36.0.130206 Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 13:31:07 -0700 From: Max Heim To: MG List Thread-Topic: [Mgs] Got the shag carpet ripped out of the trunk... Thread-Index: Ac5gmUaJ+Rne1o0ovUWx7pSoOUoRVA== Subject: Re: [Mgs] Got the shag carpet ripped out of the trunk... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net on 6/3/13 12:57 PM, Andrew Lundgren at lundgren@byu.net wrote: > Now what to do about the hardened old nasty glue residue? > > I would like to get the glue remnants off the paint w/o damaging the > paint. Is there any hope in that? Oog, not much. Probably hard enough to find a solvent that will remove the glue without requiring hazmat gear. Paint would likely be collateral damage. > I have 2 teenage boys that get to > drive this car and can supply plenty of elbow grease! > > If not, I guess I could pick up a black trunk carpet kit, but I would > rather just go bare metal at this point... The carpet idea would be a lot less work. I wouldn't glue it down, however... > > -- > Andrew -- Max Heim '66 MGB GHN3L76149 If you're near Menlo Park, CA, it's the primer red one with chrome wires _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 22:10:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157A644302 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 22:10:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nlpi162.prodigy.net (nlpi162.sbcis.sbc.com [207.115.36.34]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC81C4322A for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 22:02:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from barney-gaylord.mgaguru.com (adsl-99-139-122-177.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net [99.139.122.177]) (authenticated bits=0) by nlpi162.prodigy.net (8.14.4 smptauth/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r543wS4d013935; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 22:58:30 -0500 Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 22:59:48 -0500 To: Andrew Lundgren , mgs@autox.team.net From: Barney Gaylord References: <51ACF53A.9030406@byu.net> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Got the shag carpet ripped out of the trunk... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Andrew, -- Try Goof-Off, which will likely work, but may require a fair amount of the stuff at a premium price to do a large area. If you don't mind messing with the stuff, I have found that gasoline makes a pretty good solvent for carpet adhesive. Let it soak, scrape gently with a putty knife, finish by rubbing with wire wool. If you have enough elbow grease it gets there eventually. Apply all admonitinos, advice and safety precautions for working with flamable solvents. I did this one successfully: http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/restore/pics2/3468.jpg If youi don't klike gasoline, then mineral spirits may work, just slower, more time consuming (lots of time). Try a spritz od WD-40 (which is mostly mineral spirits). Barney Gaylord 1958 MGA with an attitude http://MGAguuer.com At 01:57 PM 6/3/2013 -0600, Andrew Lundgren wrote: > Now what to do about the hardened old nasty glue residue? > >I would like to get the glue remnants off the paint w/o damaging the >paint. Is there any hope in that? I have 2 teenage boys that get >to drive this car and can supply plenty of elbow grease! >.... _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 13:17:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACB44043C for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 13:17:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm7.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm7.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B547E4041E for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 13:16:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.105] by nm7.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 19:12:22 -0000 Received: from [67.195.23.145] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 19:12:22 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp117.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 19:12:22 -0000 8mqqcAPYkkwpFAGiJaKiBPDAys.arcO9Ck0BPJpWpg.ajT2paqwx78inCwBX zTsGaL.kzLqCiaGoTUr.3nTWTqjQmS0070P88KbM9oP6Wxbwy_6A2JXZ3gI4 Wa5I757ChyMtwrSZo1e8xDXqaCKsahxz8Y3.DmuuFuP3Rw_jZCHkX9FpfDIx ttxkboPRuYxHvJEl2V.SwsNlSMrPnOX.a87UaZD.Z23N0bpZrbOYgvpFQLN3 HIzhiCc_jbfHKv_sXLbuWM030UJmPF7EmX779LlT9oWjGJZmsor2GbkC_Awu sXmiZ9N8qlinTqAUpG4Y.my67CZZh12fmn.B3KoC2Z1ls7WX4i1GDkijzcA9 8ECBzyX6NTU3HGYDkAFFuptk0Zc8.yyZwzYbTzHnmP_g3dxWQziWYYcgSTHj LyjiVLkb8PymxRcGkwKI- smtp117.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Jun 2013 19:12:22 +0000 UTC From: Duvall Video Productions Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 14:12:21 -0500 To: lundgren@byu.net Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Got the shag carpet ripped out of the trunk... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 14:05:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17D094272A for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 14:05:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f48.google.com (mail-vb0-f48.google.com [209.85.212.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8844041E for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 14:05:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f48.google.com with SMTP id w8so509135vbf.7 for ; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 13:00:56 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=EHGeDHLrJFLV9vZy2m9puyUtvKeg2afpvaUfUApUzx4=; b=lCDnAe8oRs3WPgIUF55cGqsDKyxZB1O727TX+H7MDcVBvPRW80Gsrl6wol3z6Yfdek wyWtF4uN0gCM38w9vhrW5WUNneHcn25Yx7uAyweuBP3u/jvmq6C5dMVmoOu2ztSC6f4i OsAuylEdjU19UyjbYoMW17eO7R+brdT0eHveJJDD8mIfyG6ty1KVCfv420C0y9hZkQxl JJsg1vKw+qyjciRrR10bbVMhDSsGpSsFqCaTW9uhjiRJYypdkOwOXv5ZmGoQUi//405z Rnph10NoK9dotAcs1wH9TI7k/rzllDBNkDIhGvrCZRcFIzbJKeeI+Lh8i7BfJHGbzCzE zTsw== d6mr19220156vcd.56.1370376056912; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 13:00:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.41.104 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 13:00:56 -0700 (PDT) References: <003d01ce615d$e9e38d20$bdaaa760$@planet.nl> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 15:00:56 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: Hans Duinhoven Cc: Rui Gigante , mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] first spring reinstalled Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Now THAT is a GOOD idea! The car will be Autumn Red but a small bottle of BRG model car enamel will soon be in the tool box! On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Hans Duinhoven wrote: > "I'll do the same for the TD's suspension bolts, if perhaps a bit more > subtly." > Try British Racing Green instead of Ferarri Red.... (BLVC25 is a nice > variant) > > Cheers > Hans _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 5 11:33:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D98F1400A4 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 11:33:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from cpsmtpb-ews01.kpnxchange.com (cpsmtpb-ews01.kpnxchange.com [213.75.39.4]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0431240411 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 11:26:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cpsps-ews10.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.177]) by cpsmtpb-ews01.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Wed, 5 Jun 2013 19:21:58 +0200 Received: from CPSMTPM-CMT102.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.18]) by cpsps-ews10.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Wed, 5 Jun 2013 19:21:58 +0200 Received: from PolderPC ([77.171.11.159]) by CPSMTPM-CMT102.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6002.18264); Wed, 5 Jun 2013 19:21:58 +0200 From: "Hans Duinhoven" To: Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 19:22:01 +0200 Thread-Index: Ac5iEQgdTFAyLsrUSkSa098W9YWfPA== Content-Language: nl FILETIME=[2F0A3FD0:01CE6211] Subject: [Mgs] My next toy!!! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net No worries anymore of traffic jams! Wish hit were mine. http://www.youtube.com/embed/VRRnXq41UV4?feature=player_embedded Cheers, Hans _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 5 12:00:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E43E54272A for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:00:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDBC4042F for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 11:58:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 10so4481948ied.14 for ; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 10:54:02 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to; bh=AD6fih0vpr4181OMqws05UwPYtHtESkuHofZLBRmecA=; b=a+Cy4z5tTaGjjgZRivC+WGV81ziCSF0Khu/PqXcAKy8mp6ncQpi60mO1BngBdgZrfJ kLGcENAQjcpdUWK81iJ4efu4Mr0MgzW3fTo+EiE04a74OqQKY3z5lW9IANcXf6QjJtYa mp4MCRXARXDi8TF2z5ukich8lHih4ofIOVF0roJYFd+AJiuKRvx+tKjDahJp5S9pDAH5 yUZXc8IjMjVURWhYIkValXCYv49ZCeck+LDSkSuAk6e/yVnwqstaAKHiucl6nsPayLQc l1q5noRGcSpHBDZri/BfhICO2HtyEU3oyMc0R3CDs8patH5yPdXuN6QpOz00aL7/Ykhp mMQg== w4mr3817221igz.83.1370454841924; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 10:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [204.147.87.126] ([204.147.87.126]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ji5sm8552201igb.0.2013.06.05.10.54.00 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 05 Jun 2013 10:54:01 -0700 (PDT) References: <004b01ce6211$313c3b00$93b4b100$@planet.nl> From: Paul Root Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:54:02 -0500 To: Hans Duinhoven Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Mgs] My next toy!!! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net can you imagine the accidents in the sky over any metropolitan city in America? Sent from my iPad On Jun 5, 2013, at 12:22 PM, "Hans Duinhoven" wrote: > No worries anymore of traffic jams! > > Wish hit were mine. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/embed/VRRnXq41UV4?feature=player_embedded > > > > Cheers, > > Hans > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ptrmgb@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 5 13:04:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C580340E01 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 13:04:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.213]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE4D04044C for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:55:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.197] by nm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jun 2013 18:51:15 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.53] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jun 2013 18:51:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp106.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Jun 2013 18:51:15 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370458275; bh=JFxXW8rkG0a09BZv1p4PtTnIbF9/x00I3QJ58RXEClA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:From:To:Cc:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=or7UeuvDCP+oamJ8oUVK3ZzX72CLX2j6aMUJQSKA1Uy3GZENM6VHcDIe/pSlNOaOJJjIqezWB7iVDQYYSHmG7PQn6rqXfCo6tUJZFfGJhWYgP3AY5fwAbYejJP2oSN7+AZOXp4PuRm/ik40guYd9WuBe6ax59RCDISslt4qIJb8= tsbzqsRHEGqQYgguQlHu0w5EwhW79TdOzOE5C55y0gtoH1hMsY35uHdlWM17 IiPh.pfu82vvncF.kHcuPwCyv8on9z3nJB43E0.WdkwBk9ybwfwAt89cXkUy _Vneqvo_mP33q873WlDVFngjUc_iq8I23RuD7UxXuazKq8LT92E4XoWobfl6 OYjOXC2kYnim4_5uqkjI2q6waLEcuejcW5DaDf9jNZqU8EvMq2WRrRfDxwUc fga0gOYMQqV.dRprzRsEIbKufiTqYw_zbY1s5vPs8NmZwV9peKXmWDNxqU6j AzpG0rddAj2JT.sDfmyNPIQCklYh0aGsliceDemKNGoZTH6LF_KFzzf1Ipr6 U7sIOfVQSJTKlza75ng9LAFoWQ7Ha5e.Uwo.OuLgFgthWUkbq2pHVHMXEKuB qtRNEuK4hl_ZZhA5Sz7NT79f4i9KIwe4XILIxRRzNJL6qsmAb7bn6MH9KqJl hsd0Ony5LwXzy0R6tZlBYXgO35RpZAyjOrN.cbjzN2xqgSwg42T2bF0fig1J 8WmlUHLdlGQBFMtCg9kjRMqM93MTG4dyI9MnzsO09t7ShxLl1DLvaRNBL8OK sag-- smtp106.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 05 Jun 2013 11:51:15 -0700 PDT From: "Ron King" To: "'Paul Root'" , "'Hans Duinhoven'" References: <004b01ce6211$313c3b00$93b4b100$@planet.nl> <85E24CAA-F63A-4319-8C35-41485A723940@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 11:51:12 -0700 Thread-Index: AQGKwfkmAyoxqe1sg8pEdgPMzWPJNwKeAM1emZnG/RA= Content-Language: en-us Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] My next toy!!! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Completely agree. Great concept, but people can't drive cars on the street much less in the air. Ron King '71 MGB -----Original Message----- From: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Root Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 10:54 AM To: Hans Duinhoven Cc: Subject: Re: [Mgs] My next toy!!! can you imagine the accidents in the sky over any metropolitan city in America? Sent from my iPad On Jun 5, 2013, at 12:22 PM, "Hans Duinhoven" wrote: > No worries anymore of traffic jams! > > Wish hit were mine. > > > > http://www.youtube.com/embed/VRRnXq41UV4?feature=player_embedded > > > > Cheers, > > Hans > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ptrmgb@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ronking@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 02:48:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE9A403EF for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 02:48:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f170.google.com (mail-ea0-f170.google.com [209.85.215.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF9D4403DD for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 02:27:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f170.google.com with SMTP id h10so2399595eaj.15 for ; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 01:22:59 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :x-mailer:x-mimeole:x-gm-message-state; bh=8uOGFsAO74pF8igtMyrtkGN27zWON4f9348fTPuJktk=; b=GKPDgVa0GHAAvY170P2PQyto2CBlGeeMMpcdukrySYUt/d7YFBdPjvY9/EJmovbxRe Llp0NXTdOf6W3qmH+h8Uj6BIQC321xEBBKhtd+2RHBp2fwIWJLCFKeF8DrSHxuVEjNVu ArOwFPcnRq9eoYPQnHRzEclYWSZj+zseQZPdB+G0L98rS8CwCA3mh5pdAkkHjk8jdD12 XO/WQLeSmiIld21hfIQw40tph5DSrIhEZSbz7KGPk+qQV/Ow2SfVIkA/BfmtwgMFmQBI fIr6DK75003W+NVMs5si6n37VgFQezcLkCBKLvuDCw17cHvXXdk0UBSmC+0MlmYr7WqX E9Jw== d47mr20928941eeu.36.1370506979449; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 01:22:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from paul (know-mailgateway-2.server.virginmedia.net. [62.254.26.101]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id y44sm23008647eel.10.2013.06.06.01.22.58 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 06 Jun 2013 01:22:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "PaulHunt73" To: "Hans Duinhoven" , References: <004b01ce6211$313c3b00$93b4b100$@planet.nl> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 08:59:38 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] My next toy!!! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I note it conveniently skips the bit where the rotors have to be bolted on and unbolted, and how about the 'Oooops' moment when someone pushes the wrong button and minces a couple of passers-by with the prop :o) ----- Original Message ----- > > > > http://www.youtube.com/embed/VRRnXq41UV4?feature=player_embedded _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 03:02:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8925A40405 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 03:02:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from cpsmtpb-ews10.kpnxchange.com (cpsmtpb-ews10.kpnxchange.com [213.75.39.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82FB140078 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 02:49:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cpsps-ews15.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.182]) by cpsmtpb-ews10.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Thu, 6 Jun 2013 10:45:09 +0200 Received: from CPSMTPM-CMT102.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.18]) by cpsps-ews15.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Thu, 6 Jun 2013 10:45:09 +0200 Received: from PolderPC ([77.171.11.159]) by CPSMTPM-CMT102.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6002.18264); Thu, 6 Jun 2013 10:45:09 +0200 From: "Hans Duinhoven" To: "'PaulHunt73'" References: <004b01ce6211$313c3b00$93b4b100$@planet.nl> <8246B8A682BD4E9E92EA956925D105A7@paul> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 10:45:12 +0200 Thread-Index: AQGKwfkmAyoxqe1sg8pEdgPMzWPJNwHCEgdgmaGOfRA= Content-Language: nl FILETIME=[26771A10:01CE6292] Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] My next toy!!! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net See it as a Dutch treed Paul. (the vehicle bears a Dutch number) If people are allowed to deploy such vehicles en masse, it will become a real mess. I think we constantly are in hideouts, because fools do weird things with this vehicle. I rate it under the James Bond gadgets. Cheers, Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: PaulHunt73 [mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com] Verzonden: donderdag 6 juni 2013 10:00 Aan: Hans Duinhoven; mgs@autox.team.net Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] My next toy!!! I note it conveniently skips the bit where the rotors have to be bolted on and unbolted, and how about the 'Oooops' moment when someone pushes the wrong button and minces a couple of passers-by with the prop :o) ----- Original Message ----- > > > > http://www.youtube.com/embed/VRRnXq41UV4?feature=player_embedded _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 12:27:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D962740074 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 12:27:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from homiemail-a29.g.dreamhost.com (caiajhbdcbef.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40A640329 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 12:21:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from homiemail-a29.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a29.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B11674059 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:16:20 -0700 (PDT) :date:from:mime-version:to:subject:content-type; s=stclegal.com; bh=FNLuhN3jIkZq9gpOecgFVZ9zci4=; b=voIHJrqLZHOdIEVlfMvDiy4a2NMB vcsJ5w0sJ20qflrx51y8XRs7NG2N8/dtlGt7d0EiiQKcFbwdTN+zYdawolJP+wAX SHdwJcljzosVX7YGZWJ5n6uZtn+RafiNf2W9sz3v4izjkOoF1FUM/lseQ8gRH94I SfhKlygw4y4Jo+o= Received: from [192.168.1.69] (66-128-101-178.static.stls.mo.charter.com [66.128.101.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: guinness@stclegal.com) by homiemail-a29.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 58CAD674058 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 13:16:15 -0500 From: "Robert J. Guinness" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: MG List Subject: [Mgs] MGA Locktab Washer for Crank Dog Nut Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Is there any way to source an MGA lock tab washer for a crank dog nut from a local automotive or hardware store? I'd hate to do a mail order for one washer. If it can be locally sourced, what are it's dimensions? -- e-mail signature Robert Guinness _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 14:34:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD20403E0 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 14:34:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f175.google.com (mail-we0-f175.google.com [74.125.82.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18077400A5 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 14:34:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f175.google.com with SMTP id t59so2419837wes.20 for ; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 13:29:41 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=AsPWkgqaq3FTY90Bl5VWtCj+dsXfNim+w+HE1sO4nmM=; b=Oo2+XVvsbdNGPh0dZmCzKhlun8ala5XMw9+Npx5s/UeXq10XklS41jsNl3Iz5jCbCt mwimnDDWTkmfEpOyRpoZlJz1RY9WnIP3u4eY3WtYKYcDtOkVl2A9D8PZKXPRBuNF6dqv Eo/Z/JnWUdsutr4XwNjA9NPz2F4wCHRPGMAkE4309ByfNhbU9Avu6K1ZM9jiax1jeHmr Oa6rFmEQqyN8VELIo4KvJkfm0QkIZ2RtXp5F8KEWnu1NiumsfeG16U84FgdrTonEOqny x1pJ5jdYQ0F5uTPm1ZbgFIx9OATAurWlKAXQhWiaITtiedXPqVV7x7ffLFv+7ki2YI13 WWqw== ek2mr11101052wid.27.1370550581512; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 13:29:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.6] (know-mailgateway-2.server.virginmedia.net. [62.254.26.101]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b11sm18141093wiv.10.2013.06.06.13.29.38 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 06 Jun 2013 13:29:40 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 21:29:25 +0100 From: Allan Thompson To: MG List Subject: [Mgs] Insurance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Can you imagine how insurance companies would deal with this?! Seriously though,the biggest problem would be regulatory control of these devices, particularly in cities.Some immensely complicated systems would need to be introduced to protect the walking public and buildings. Perhaps it would be banned from urban areas? Allan _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 17:16:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DCC403E9 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 17:16:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC2840397 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 17:14:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lAn61l0040S2fkCA6B9ySd; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 23:09:58 +0000 Received: from mail-lb0-f173.google.com ([209.85.217.173]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lB7w1l0073l3Eu98VB7xjR; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 23:07:57 +0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f173.google.com with SMTP id t10so3673658lbi.18 for ; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 16:07:55 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=aQEpZ4Iz9iLCk3mZpAqRRK0ozhlDYOekSGptbbugPyw=; b=LiSEdIu0epYFUkzs472ifHgxEDcKAY00X5MEfAPIxBmD+nrHsRUO+3cggjhI+TWMh/ Lp2GfT1KmzJkPwq11ge+gSzDGd0PSQZr/WDZW+gHKZlAvhTn0OY0hzkOJsz76nZMAxtU 523UaN1d2oJkdhfkTjtnz6uSF3LEJgaskxXuHNw+dFVpRzvGT2qKQVPUH91Shv9KNvYL 3n2ciczeb5i2UyFw60EIeoqX9rBZK39skIGcCB4OSu5JbUlwrCnRUPOgWHZBSQIa2XqW du2PNIZcYvjVKQ7OnfjRmo4lABj9abQYZ3TwlFmAjCbc55j8VHKmz76PN++TCKmjvO1G F67w== ul8mr884202lbc.36.1370560075783; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 16:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.2.38 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 16:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.2.38 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 16:07:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 17:07:55 -0600 From: Andrew Lundgren To: mgs@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1370560198; bh=aQEpZ4Iz9iLCk3mZpAqRRK0ozhlDYOekSGptbbugPyw=; h=Received:Received:Received:MIME-Version:Received:Received:Date: Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Content-Type; b=W/Kwkt9Bp6Yc7NroOi7OmajDyizToqWheTEkvh1RVr6c/+E0OOsS+UBU32H04BXgx jne8s1CfrJc42fZoowifiuhYBt9TWtcyQeLuQ+JChL/vMWGG5U5tNADO79rB2UtcS8 bdQwPoXmO46RNYfpb4tU+vdFmIGwTgSEr1PbfFgf4FBN1Wvrc+3LM0H+kyof2kSu83 F5Xewant1IjU7s8FNgzL/p/4k0Vv1NTCKumclcjdsbRY7oc4nd5wr7ZO8KIgynXUXh 81sBm+kCDC09Kl1QWoEri8V2ftKSMH/wH7Gs0h8azAlRa7zMLFHkYJA6AoqddSh7oD 3iIcVkdhf7kBQ== Subject: [Mgs] That new 78 B got rear ended today.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sad day. My sons were rear ended on the way to work. They are ok so far. The car took some damage in the back. The truck won't open now... Bummer! Hopefully it won't get totaled. We will know more in a few days. Andrew _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 7 05:54:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE9540410 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 05:54:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm43-vm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm43-vm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67305403EF for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 05:53:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm43.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jun 2013 11:49:00 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.247] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jun 2013 11:49:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1056.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jun 2013 11:49:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 20320 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Jun 2013 11:49:00 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370605740; bh=X3gN/rQJ3WUuvcVL55MHzLFLxDxrKCtZ7PxVUEVXYYs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=P/1GgYWFj+b4Cw9fb0OadFJtLUG+YJRjAT3El37k+opMEoLc4OObsOJIVEw9kns2KjqMiv4rSKh4TYifg4C/dAc7e4aD2pGAwxdd7XyVFvc/5lqOvrHeTbUZVZF1seF/NaicdpH3BFVTAAD2chlIZzmAwxQcHmPBPxFpe5FvdqQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WuORnr7iDT9VA6BUh5nE8iLe1MSuxmwFRojIiX9Ho4+spzKD/8DdWor4sNFyxWyMJ4qTlp5CHtCZ0hvQYH34ZtlSD5Lp1YP+BBsmNl5qn0eiXZtz3xsKRRhJ1n1flJ2mHkqjqnN6utVUI8Sj7FTGfXTghB5zWmqkdYZlIveU/qQ=; zXBFAHP4OZe95uS7zue1S02qZuFAtdr.2Z7Pq2i.lsc6RLaVwH_a6zMVYk1Y E9hxL5VEcxc8fXB72yh16vawOUB0cM4iyOiaRzwz_3j7qfDf9mG7taX8QHMB yLXUhXiZNzsmQOz0DiAhUgzhNjV.VNviBsomItv2o5T7K_ybaS90CCoeU3Pk 9iyxqOacR_ZWA3_ssTxBWTvtk7oOasN6XEEDH9yppBvh2CUPpjTseWgupZvK KxBserydr0GDTSgdjgu9g0jr0W8uuu0GHVIyNyYj8ySNf34LMiOg4yJUX7HU _vHMoj14.AlmE9i8poMUs4Oibtgfg3zLl5de0qrocg24sE_92qXq615o5HOh 27DirjhA8XDG0wWRxmuAlmHVX_cfzhP1xIgqPgIGsUl0IcYxH4iK_iCKHots BF1gsl724stL.PwlF4jwQHUpcAWQr7lILyHr0uydozW15isA16QW7X.nCfDI A47U_ZlHpBr7sPUbUfTPyiktigXptm9.QOgU5T0_Uk.igds6I28VTng-- Received: from [68.44.138.78] by web164903.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Jun 2013 04:49:00 PDT T2ggbm8sIHRoYXQncyBhIHNoYW1lIGJ1dCBnbGFkIHRoZSBib3lzIGFyZSBva2F5Li4uLi4gQW55IGlkZWEgaG93IGZhc3QgdGhlICdvdGhlciBndXknIHdhcyBnb2luZz8gSQp3YXMgcmVhci1lbmRlZCBpbiBteSAnNzYgeWVhcnMgYWdvIGFuZCBwdXNoZWQgaW50byB0aGUgY2FyIGluIGZyb250LiBHdXkgdGhhdCBoaXQgbWUgd2FzIGdvaW5nIGFib3V0IAoKMjUgbXBoIGFuZCBoaXQgbWUgZmx1c2ggb24gdGhlIHJlYXIgYnVtcGVyLiBObyBkYW1hZ2UgaW4gdGhlIGJhY2sgYnV0IG5lZWRlZCBuZXcgYm9ubmUBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 04:49:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan DiBiase To: Andrew Lundgren , "mgs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mgs] That new 78 B got rear ended today.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Oh no, that's a shame but glad the boys are okay..... Any idea how fast the 'other guy' was going? I was rear-ended in my '76 years ago and pushed into the car in front. Guy that hit me was going about 25 mph and hit me flush on the rear bumper. No damage in the back but needed new bonnet and front fenders. Dan D '76B '65B Central NJ USA ________________________________ From: Andrew Lundgren To: mgs@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 7:07 PM Subject: [Mgs] That new 78 B got rear ended today.... Sad day. My sons were rear ended on the way to work. They are ok so far. The car took some damage in the back. The truck won't open now... Bummer! Hopefully it won't get totaled. We will know more in a few days. Andrew _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 7 10:09:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AD942795 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 10:09:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0201A4279F for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 09:07:06 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1370617336; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=JrbqJhzio8niTc64WWYDrnNcEqWluyQZ3pK6nUsCBdbBujS7GIiYCpwq1dgJRO9hQ GLCcLMujp+bYhPsXPfWjXETqztCvUotfy6Nv4PEiXfDotfKCyHDkUqE//9RG9Nv3Rl B51ucKOJ/Z1Erdtcyx7uX9GmEJ3ojtZ7JhGGAv8w= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.101]) by smtpout03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABJ5D7P4A59NQ7A for (sender ); Fri, 7 Jun 2013 08:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [108.88.216.197] by webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 15:00:04 GMT From: "mgbob@juno.com" Full-Name: "mgbob@juno.com" Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 15:00:04 GMT To: lundgren@byu.net Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] That new 78 B got rear ended today.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net A sad day, indeed. That the lads are ok is the best part of it. Lets hope the insurance company is helpful. Some can be. Last autumn, hurricane Sandy dropped a tree on a friend's old 911. They "totaled" it, but allowed him to buy the carcass back for less than they gave him. It went for parts, netting him more than it was worth, and providing a good engine to a 911 in need. If you have "declared value" cover, the company will pay costs up to the value you specified, unlike the standard cover, in which they depreciate arbitrarily, set a book value, pay off a fraction of that and subtract a handling charge. Not much impact is needed to bind the MGB boot lid, but a lot is required to significantly damage the structure. It may be that a good shop can get it back into driving condition quickly. We all hope so. Bob ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Andrew Lundgren To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] That new 78 B got rear ended today.... Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 17:07:55 -0600 Sad day. My sons were rear ended on the way to work. They are ok so far. The car took some damage in the back. The truck won't open now... Bummer! Hopefully it won't get totaled. We will know more in a few days. Andrew _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbob@juno.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 7 11:01:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D9042832 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 11:01:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f171.google.com (mail-pd0-f171.google.com [209.85.192.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB62403E2 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 09:39:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f171.google.com with SMTP id y14so2064510pdi.16 for ; Fri, 07 Jun 2013 08:35:10 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :x-gm-message-state; bh=tHsKGAQ3itdCSjqw2RCzVVFwxJXfmg4dt+BmBGBLoAc=; b=ZTIx0K625fsMtWB5053ZYp/Ycl4kh7+9ZcKFrl2Ott2kafdWTVljRFzgdSPuaZBFor 8yHNxg7x8KIifmD9EHOhATaUWj42+z65/VmNlNOBgkDbnPIW2P/DHp8xdu5vtcqY6azP hHQ/zdibOyMCpkiPI8GcuLgTrga5aYcL5KkKAf0POrEvcxxtpQhAUx5QsLe8+VAQmjwA ie+loQyJ9HRTSRINOF2CeVWpu0m1bSCk/uRri6umKQOwxR7MqpGmS/32sGbIW14xITZe C/2j+aHUjcYRqwKSlMVVvqHoce6mUK/pmpmgE/lqy8Q+P8auznVm4vDPQgEqnnz+0tFS NHWg== xa2mr3438724pab.36.1370619310396; Fri, 07 Jun 2013 08:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lundgren-laptop.familysearch.org (ec2-184-73-197-243.compute-1.amazonaws.com. [184.73.197.243]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 6sm25025249pbn.45.2013.06.07.08.35.07 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 07 Jun 2013 08:35:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 09:35:05 -0600 From: Andrew Lundgren User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130510 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: "mgbob@juno.com" References: <20130607.110004.17602.3@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com> Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] That new 78 B got rear ended today.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I wasn't able to get an agreed value insurance on a B for daily driver use. Let a lone one being driven by a 17 year old. Collision coverage wasn't a lot more than liability, so I went for it. At least I am just dealing with my company. I am hoping it works out well also. The adjuster is coming on Tuesday... -- Andrew On 06/07/2013 09:00 AM, mgbob@juno.com wrote: > A sad day, indeed. That the lads are ok is the best part of it. > Lets hope the insurance company is helpful. Some can be. Last autumn, hurricane Sandy dropped a tree on a friend's old 911. They "totaled" it, but allowed him to buy the carcass back for less than they gave him. It went for parts, netting him more than it was worth, and providing a good engine to a 911 in need. If you have "declared value" cover, the company will pay costs up to the value you specified, unlike the standard cover, in which they depreciate arbitrarily, set a book value, pay off a fraction of that and subtract a handling charge. > Not much impact is needed to bind the MGB boot lid, but a lot is required to significantly damage the structure. It may be that a good shop can get it back into driving condition quickly. We all hope so. > Bob _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 7 12:41:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E486342945 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 12:41:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A62403EA for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 11:44:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (173-228-28-236.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [173.228.28.236]) (authenticated bits=0) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id r57He0Oq007809 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 10:40:02 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.36.0.130206 Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 10:32:27 -0700 From: Max Heim To: MG List Thread-Topic: [Mgs] That new 78 B got rear ended today.... Thread-Index: Ac5jpPqS6KrGnrLjE0qPoYRTMiD5Iw== Subject: Re: [Mgs] That new 78 B got rear ended today.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Good luck. Any kind of accident involving an "unusual" vehicle tends to turn into a long drawn-out process. My 1967 Plymouth Barracuda is still in the shop, after being rear-ended last July. It might make it out for the 1st anniversary, but it doesn't look likely at this point. The auto insurance and repair process is designed to deal with generic, replaceable cars. It's almost impossible to get full value compensation for damage to a vintage-but-not-classic driver. My MGB was hit twice (minor damage) and never repaired -- couldn't find a shop that would accept it, other than for a total restoration (for which I was not being compensated, obviously). The Barracuda was the same story, but this time I bit the bullet for a major resto. -- Max Heim '66 MGB GHN3L76149 If you're near Menlo Park, CA, it's the primer red one with chrome wires on 6/7/13 8:35 AM, Andrew Lundgren at lundgren@byu.net wrote: > I wasn't able to get an agreed value insurance on a B for daily driver > use. Let a lone one being driven by a 17 year old. Collision coverage > wasn't a lot more than liability, so I went for it. At least I am just > dealing with my company. > > I am hoping it works out well also. The adjuster is coming on Tuesday... > > -- > Andrew > > On 06/07/2013 09:00 AM, mgbob@juno.com wrote: >> A sad day, indeed. That the lads are ok is the best part of it. >> Lets hope the insurance company is helpful. Some can be. Last autumn, >> hurricane Sandy dropped a tree on a friend's old 911. They "totaled" it, but >> allowed him to buy the carcass back for less than they gave him. It went for >> parts, netting him more than it was worth, and providing a good engine to a >> 911 in need. If you have "declared value" cover, the company will pay costs >> up to the value you specified, unlike the standard cover, in which they >> depreciate arbitrarily, set a book value, pay off a fraction of that and >> subtract a handling charge. >> Not much impact is needed to bind the MGB boot lid, but a lot is >> required to significantly damage the structure. It may be that a good shop >> can get it back into driving condition quickly. We all hope so. >> Bob _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 7 13:47:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0033F4282F for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 13:47:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plwbeout06-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (unknown [97.74.135.61]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B534041F for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 12:16:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost ([97.74.135.117]) by p3plwbeout06-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with bizsmtp id lWB71l0032Y8iQZ01WB7nm; Fri, 07 Jun 2013 11:11:07 -0700 Received: (qmail 30334 invoked by uid 99); 7 Jun 2013 18:11:07 -0000 User-Agent: Workspace Webmail 5.6.38 From: To: "Andrew Lundgren" Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 11:11:06 -0700 Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] That new 78 B got rear ended today.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 7 16:11:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E227340426 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 16:11:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.210]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E5C40408 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 15:14:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.196] by nm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jun 2013 21:08:57 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.52] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jun 2013 21:08:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp105.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jun 2013 21:08:57 -0000 F2irQJZLvTx2aDFOVXa9n9Ku.oYyFy8ZpupGEYFOzCwF2PLlh2yY7SUO8Atd J2qyoATz2hQPbblsazaWhVMyi5__Qp3aqFPQELIRWDzbvEKdcLeDlnl.9ZeK 3wcx6wJrY2P5g0YAimoaePKHP2eYzdZlMCt1M_C8x53Eb.UjISvvxq6CqnvF GhbosTl6DSPhExPmBPAahsf2_xggq4vmv_1XmThZTx021u_jNCqdfihXutdz j5f_evUpspKVGtZYI3tYMZCcs_flTTCO.AHDW_7lBl4I_S_fnoZrHQoitCPb 3.pHqg5mvike.yI3zXvH2ebY.v5SvrGhv2vEK8s0HbeMPsZu5gQlaSuBFoBX E.qDrJ1r5JO3icAuHCzgImUtfqvjeqEQ5C867HEd2kAKLjTKN73SV5QC2upu nLazyhn8pz3Mp24jJ28lGIppq5s3p8ZSjZirxk0yY0SQQIlNNws8d smtp105.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 07 Jun 2013 14:08:57 -0700 PDT From: Duvall Video Productions Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 16:08:56 -0500 References: To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 73, Issue 6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I'm confused why if someone rear ended your car, you are only dealing with your insurance company. Agreed value is only for comprehensive and collision. If someone hit you, it is there liability that pays. On Jun 7, 2013, at 1:00 PM, mgs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 09:35:05 -0600 > From: Andrew Lundgren > To: "mgbob@juno.com" > Cc: mgs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Mgs] That new 78 B got rear ended today.... > Message-ID: <51B1FDA9.5040003@byu.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I wasn't able to get an agreed value insurance on a B for daily driver > use. Let a lone one being driven by a 17 year old. Collision coverage > wasn't a lot more than liability, so I went for it. At least I am just > dealing with my company. > > I am hoping it works out well also. The adjuster is coming on Tuesday... > > -- > Andrew _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 7 17:30:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA564053F for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 17:30:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFFB840400 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 16:18:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (173-228-28-236.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [173.228.28.236]) (authenticated bits=0) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id r57MDh37022736 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 15:13:45 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.36.0.130206 Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 15:13:15 -0700 From: Max Heim To: MG List Thread-Topic: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 73, Issue 6 Thread-Index: Ac5jzDTD/6IQRX1a4EOJAzMgKOvwFA== Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 73, Issue 6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Possibly they both have the same company. Or, if there is any question as to the other driver's coverage (this happened in my recent case), my company covered it under comprehensive, then went after the other company for reimbursement. -- Max Heim '66 MGB GHN3L76149 If you're near Menlo Park, CA, it's the primer red one with chrome wires on 6/7/13 2:08 PM, Duvall Video Productions at mike@duvallvideo.com wrote: > I'm confused why if someone rear ended your car, you are only dealing with > your insurance company. Agreed value is only for comprehensive and collision. > If someone hit you, it is there liability that pays. > > > > On Jun 7, 2013, at 1:00 PM, mgs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > >> >> Message: 6 >> Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2013 09:35:05 -0600 >> From: Andrew Lundgren >> To: "mgbob@juno.com" >> Cc: mgs@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Mgs] That new 78 B got rear ended today.... >> Message-ID: <51B1FDA9.5040003@byu.net> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >> >> I wasn't able to get an agreed value insurance on a B for daily driver >> use. Let a lone one being driven by a 17 year old. Collision coverage >> wasn't a lot more than liability, so I went for it. At least I am just >> dealing with my company. >> >> I am hoping it works out well also. The adjuster is coming on Tuesday... >> >> -- >> Andrew - _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 7 22:36:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28F740540 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 22:36:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 399AE40436 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 21:56:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lfoB1l0050S2fkCADfrYpx; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 03:51:32 +0000 Received: from mail-la0-x22d.google.com ([IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22d]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lfrW1l00P36TkJR8VfrXBL; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 03:51:32 +0000 Received: by mail-la0-f45.google.com with SMTP id fr10so4328587lab.32 for ; Fri, 07 Jun 2013 20:51:30 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=cbKYHTPogtqtFmWnyF4GbL0Es3Gi0RfL3aBCKF3yT9w=; b=HZp0SUTYgfh7PiNOo6PIaFCUcXqpHjku5CSV4iY6GQRYdHGMlaG2EOFn2W7bwopaKl GWBETLXozLe/HpoBGp3xX3VeB2KpwxRhncQuW/mmI3NpXCtmBmFR81OQO+uIwXs+lDgk zpJOgE2PbY0TxICC+rR9IsF/Fyd5B2Ys3J29rF2OZPz3zHFUStichEW+FYFeGnd87DXK aVpn5hwRfZc6N1h1Kbrltu+aX+I40Osy63lSSG6gBO4ww2U2e6F+8MmGubgRSxYMG33v wVj2hzEs7MpOZzFGZpRK6mPALkSYju7agTr4Ep/pakkdYBi8TLoD5dRjRND8u5OMSf6W IsqQ== um9mr2404014lbc.76.1370663490226; Fri, 07 Jun 2013 20:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.161.1 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 20:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.161.1 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 20:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 21:51:29 -0600 From: Andrew Lundgren To: mgs@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1370663492; bh=cbKYHTPogtqtFmWnyF4GbL0Es3Gi0RfL3aBCKF3yT9w=; h=Received:Received:Received:MIME-Version:Received:Received:Date: Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Content-Type; b=Ok6EEuSwjGVbS396AuIzy/ziwxb4k9hr8HY++d3yOfw/bsxHD30XJZZ97fs5dmkyn UoCwTUlRxkcOAMUUvsihrYY5RSUSK6hxLGzDb9kPmyZo+pX42HHdUjfYY2pYSw6zEa OTmv15WSAFX9U8Fxo9i1eaobfiKBs5BZH0Mrx2VePw5hpXUuJBj1B0wPETvGBEYs/J FP6McFBGGVM7iJy6QD1FAwQuVibzh9iI+tbQXlR90mr8EQ6cN2u+tOdBpUvSFuADCK Q+5ZZjbjjusg1ipJG7VVDjuJFqUltbz8Rrrb05G7PITM3s+Sa8GogI8/xj3jPLQIfl phxrBNIgGuBBQ== Subject: [Mgs] Where is the Inertia switch for fuel pump on a 78? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net After my 78 B got rear ended the fuel pump shut down. I spent some time today looking in my haynes manual and confirmed that there is an inertia switch for the pump. Now comes the problem... where is it? I am hoping it isn't in the trunk/boot, the handle is stuck shut. Thanks Andrew _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 7 22:55:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6180E40518 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 22:55:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4908040437 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 22:24:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lfyx1l0010EPchoA3gKz4w; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 04:19:59 +0000 Received: from mail-lb0-f172.google.com ([209.85.217.172]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id lgHx1l00K3jlaZt8MgHyDZ; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 04:17:59 +0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f172.google.com with SMTP id v20so391460lbc.31 for ; Fri, 07 Jun 2013 21:17:57 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=kk52rxScQUdFbAe30gRq/wltsnsxELblMEJXXZ90JZQ=; b=M/FI4SVUccdapquKDGdiY7wqWMFNlsnA4cCkC9E4NK9yk/2xctMZ8yy5OgpbF8p1oA w5Sljk575vvl8u8/rDlHXaPMUDPjIsQEAzpXPhDx6if9WcF1+KXWRWbZT6JeIXBo98mi gRLiP7ZeSuqftq2vA2/QgZ1uE1RadPNBtCvs+amREH7VALMr4hhnCZcW6TPB9pxajWF/ ida8V2RhNk5LsI8e+OLnGsvxsWRTSYWQB7wVpKJpxxIcEaqniyNkfT3szIST2+AYGAUN p/qr0c3PmQslxuCMCNFGh2P/4Ch8x8uSSX20s+CA7IU8M1CNknPv5llbzlisUcSC/nS/ XriQ== t15mr649548laz.85.1370665077390; Fri, 07 Jun 2013 21:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.161.1 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 21:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.161.1 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 21:17:57 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 22:17:57 -0600 From: Andrew Lundgren To: mgs@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1370665199; bh=kk52rxScQUdFbAe30gRq/wltsnsxELblMEJXXZ90JZQ=; h=Received:Received:Received:MIME-Version:Received:Received:Date: Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Content-Type; b=VL+pNsHfUMG4Oj0siR8wx/+Bs4oapDruZLGwhijzhhreDdBF9NPC1n2ti7zXP5266 9kmqsFo0Xk3/QLTqOhxgk66XYlOriTrAhig2TuVuXduFu5BwwZvtdzauUu0WaNYy5F R9Mo4Tc9DbO6ENhIzRBUltSZSx6AUsJ0HppU2LiPJqwzqVp+7fsh97FukG22pZf/ba aFbNdisoe9PR0dMn2mE5RkwKucCUvDwoniZH7A8gIkM6VrZ7PNSEr6mshmOdp07Dh1 ML3cKZAgIM/0lh6J6XsaeWVMTq+CaKFV825VW1byymk1FiAt/88mz1O5fzJDXabiI6 UPuTbLkMsB8ug== Subject: Re: [Mgs] Where is the Inertia switch for fuel pump on a 78? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Found it! For anyone else, it is a cylinder under the driver's side dash on the firewall. It is three or four inches long mounted vertically with a button on top. Andrew On Jun 7, 2013 9:51 PM, "Andrew Lundgren" wrote: > After my 78 B got rear ended the fuel pump shut down. I spent some time > today looking in my haynes manual and confirmed that there is an inertia > switch for the pump. > > Now comes the problem... where is it? I am hoping it isn't in the > trunk/boot, the handle is stuck shut. > > Thanks > Andrew _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 8 15:52:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B5140C00 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 15:52:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f50.google.com (mail-oa0-f50.google.com [209.85.219.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1734840042; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 15:52:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id l20so4536690oag.37 for ; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 14:47:33 -0700 (PDT) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=QHERRTv9VRLsAQUfJkH8bfNHh6CVeDYIA0h8vvYDYbg=; b=BfOtbRgpX5TFAj3AeD4x+M+GkWt8mXqqqQrxQ8DYvptKwTWeAb8/X9oPyeOXrJrkr5 ctV4xfOQNitbgbk7hPveiYbOMQE0/nim2relb7vRD3j2h5lj+Pleduo807snNWZWxQCN bt2MjCaFL4FjuUbKvBY4wK0n9msJDwecyyOzgWtHlBcBriUVH6KZpJXWAyxBeMv58WZY W7QV97zyPXiD89GB5v5FelcDDfjr/0oZ314UmUHJvgCW9t2bDf7rvdxQXi4m1Rrg4Jqj x857qPo3LnNbD/46kEO5llngfzHnl0LqjZojfnp0iHAasKNJ19MQ+Op+WiW+a4MX8eEV m5jg== ay6mr3358904obb.13.1370728053372; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 14:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.69] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c20sm8973013oez.4.2013.06.08.14.47.32 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 08 Jun 2013 14:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2013 16:47:27 -0500 From: Rick Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] [Mg-t] TD project back on line... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Before someone gets offended, the ty-wraps are used during installation - and because I don't yet have the aluminum straps. -rick Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SIII - the rectangle with rounded corners, just like a BlackBerry. -------- Original message -------- From: Stanley Brohn Date: 06/08/2013 4:41 PM (GMT-06:00) To: richardolindsay@gmail.com Subject: RE: [Mg-t] TD project back on line... I couldn't tell for sure but are those copper brake lines? I do enjoy the pictures and effort you put forth in posting them.B B B B Stanley > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130607_130021.jpg > B B B _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 8 17:07:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 987054054C for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 17:07:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f176.google.com (mail-ve0-f176.google.com [209.85.128.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E62940543 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 17:07:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f176.google.com with SMTP id c13so3914976vea.35 for ; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 16:02:11 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=HF9bkoGH35jaWwUJmn68Fr6/+49nblpW/oYRwv1YowM=; b=YNtebg6h4P7XRT6L7aF5x0m9NbaC8dqyB3siwWDPlzK99fIY3BNUnGs53brA9VYpdH iXGxi/DsGouU3ZA1xKm2bVjtQB9zY9XWlFClZ3jsX9qq+L+wi2rxUZQ+VqQOf+0UqjWU ON5/WngseIGSFGWnx8udpKI0o//AorErBgH9j+xyv9uKtMs0dDAjZBOo4MUTz/2ydbS5 TZekL21RGj2LSoq1MPiXvZTrPYh6X/QdT+iEHW+q6bJiInRAvAz+aMOQV+AmAXfSVKSS xPU5LcDIZ/od3X8iLDTvuhVxjjsvRv0l2LH7GHlJA0edWvarhIuDNPHmPXjNbaUMQgXb Z08w== tc7mr1960131vdc.32.1370732530971; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 16:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.21.137 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 16:02:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 16:02:10 -0700 From: Simon Matthews To: MGS Subject: [Mgs] Castrol GT-LMA brake fluid: No longer available? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Has Castrol stopped making GT LMA brake fluid? I could not find it in my local store and I cannot find it on Castol's website. Simon _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 8 17:33:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AE4B40548 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 17:33:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 683FA4006F for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 17:26:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.16.1.39] (unknown [76.178.146.168]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED88528DC6; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 19:21:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Whiteman Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 16:21:54 -0700 References: To: Simon Matthews Cc: MGS Subject: Re: [Mgs] Castrol GT-LMA brake fluid: No longer available? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net On Jun 8, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Simon Matthews wrote: > Has Castrol stopped making GT LMA brake fluid? I could not find it in my > local store and I cannot find it on Castol's website. I've never been able to find it at any local store. Ended up using Amazon the last time I needed a bottle. -- Aaron _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 8 17:33:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F17C40402 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 17:33:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE0B40075 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 17:27:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id wo10so8469352obc.31 for ; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 16:23:04 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to; bh=QD4Om5ePkjOy0m0AnhbQn7SLOoQDEOunBxrXdrbIvBs=; b=O92t2cqZFN6nPwqy9afYmJdM38Ww8wkF101xjQC55iYUu5nPuKn8Cf9wcFXVvsYtM7 VMzYrtDFY9iH60boXLmhRwxWkZEiRJJLegpn3AIz3NeojpgFV/jsE6ZIUnTPPSX+8B3R Us+3kqQFBW9OQhwfHk8ckKUaZvNRHtSzXskGLxNR12Kkll1v1x9EyXp1CH1BQlqjTYaW 3FqOGTN4hjtk5cXWiLnaO64BFn/R9hDRunxvTRCUDn33wB39AONpECmE3f7rnyjkFuo0 lYdDsz6ghdzVUG0uxcGQDn+pmH2nzr5JJmWLbwHwcVhPUVRm6loOxoFMkgzDzhMjSUcI SZlQ== gu2mr3524617obb.0.1370733784311; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 16:23:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.17] (75-168-52-175.mpls.qwest.net. [75.168.52.175]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id nt17sm9386731obb.13.2013.06.08.16.23.03 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 08 Jun 2013 16:23:03 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Paul Root Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 18:23:04 -0500 To: Simon Matthews Cc: MGS Subject: Re: [Mgs] Castrol GT-LMA brake fluid: No longer available? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net It kind of looks like it. There is a replacement DOT 4, that they also say is LMA. I searched google or yahoo, and can up with it from shopping.yahoo.com. Here's the presumed replacement. http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9045405&co ntentId=7081185 The replacement from Moss http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=31182&SortOrder =10 Here is a source. http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com/14/71/988/7365/ITEM/Castrol-GT-LMA-Brake -Fluid.aspx?WT.ac=RichAutoComplete Sent from my iPad On Jun 8, 2013, at 6:02 PM, Simon Matthews wrote: > Has Castrol stopped making GT LMA brake fluid? I could not find it in my > local store and I cannot find it on Castol's website. > > Simon > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ptrmgb@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 8 17:34:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B97B40E02 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 17:34:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7220A40078 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 17:32:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.16.1.39] (unknown [76.178.146.168]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A093280AC; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 19:27:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Aaron Whiteman Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 16:27:28 -0700 References: To: Simon Matthews Cc: MGS Subject: Re: [Mgs] Castrol GT-LMA brake fluid: No longer available? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net On Jun 8, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Simon Matthews wrote: > Has Castrol stopped making GT LMA brake fluid? I'm going to take a flyer and guess that Castrol has changed the name. http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9045405&co ntentId=7081185 Key feature #2 "Unique Low Moisture Activity (LMA) formulation ...." And then there's the product sheets: http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_internet/castrol/castrol_usa/STAGING/loc al_assets/downloads/p,q/pds_GTLMABrakeFluid.pdf http://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/0027D9455250B6C780257AA 900537025/$File/Castrol%5FBrake%5FFluid%5FDOT%5F4%5F03742.pdf (http://preview.tinyurl.com/mhsd2w and http://preview.tinyurl.com/l27jyxe Same properties, using the same methods. -- _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 8 18:03:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C75E40691 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 18:03:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f172.google.com (mail-ve0-f172.google.com [209.85.128.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9107540543 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 17:56:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f172.google.com with SMTP id jz10so3928728veb.17 for ; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 16:52:07 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=IeK6qHyTufjg7g56eOstPyn+atqETBpyWMXQ+MJOxnA=; b=h935x9w0Ds763/HkHaZXH50xXAqvnv4EzjkR8M3Tua2ja4mLiwLuBvx1cd7SGMuKBV EAPPqrhGnnj/6mVbkkaNoMn1Pk0Xv/FGs0icXBe84+oPOenBgGUxpwleOnLUIySMO0Z8 YZvLqvmk1POQ+eJK66Cx6pagvOfQFO2cxA1fK9a4PH0xdazblsis/XdYT8nVBZdPXCub 9AWoE1gksKnyC7qlH2a/rmCi6AM1wngINQ0dDNJ9HhEGcno0NYeAPEyL5ZN22o7Y1KGs SD/WWnQd8lm/rIINO/uIDZdLRw6hBh62qJLNHLGxucp4CORYhzNmNu+0LmDR+QOvL0CL j9gQ== tx13mr2376783vec.31.1370735527208; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 16:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.21.137 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 16:52:07 -0700 (PDT) References: <06F5050C-0395-4A08-AD55-EEE46B4CECB4@panix.com> Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 16:52:07 -0700 From: Simon Matthews To: Aaron Whiteman Cc: MGS Subject: Re: [Mgs] Castrol GT-LMA brake fluid: No longer available? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I think you are correct. I think that they are deemphasizing the "synthetic" nature of the product. On the bottle of the presumed replacement that I bought, the word "synthetic" was in smaller type on the rear of the bottle. Simon On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Aaron Whiteman wrote: > > On Jun 8, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Simon Matthews > wrote: > > > Has Castrol stopped making GT LMA brake fluid? > > I'm going to take a flyer and guess that Castrol has changed the name. > > > http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9045405&contentId=7081185 > > Key feature #2 "Unique Low Moisture Activity (LMA) formulation ...." > > And then there's the product sheets: > > http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_internet/castrol/castrol_usa/STAGING/local_assets/downloads/p,q/pds_GTLMABrakeFluid.pdf > > http://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/0027D9455250B6C780257AA900537025/$File/Castrol%5FBrake%5FFluid%5FDOT%5F4%5F03742.pdf > > (http://preview.tinyurl.com/mhsd2w and http://preview.tinyurl.com/l27jyxe > > Same properties, using the same methods. > > -- > Aaron _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 9 06:21:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3344042A for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2013 06:21:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558294040C for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2013 06:15:32 -0600 (MDT) a=+v43dJTS8IDShAqzAhMs9Q==:17 a=EHuthMT-yFYA:10 a=k6Lzq5epCV0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=9uMtc-6m1EoA:10 a=VUfPOBp7AAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=WJs_-DyBAAAA:8 a=IYWDOFL6AAAA:20 a=qyejpfWFAAAA:20 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=bFVAkx7Qk8FRslq6h5EA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=5hK03km2n30A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=+v43dJTS8IDShAqzAhMs9Q==:117 Received: from [67.247.64.169] ([67.247.64.169:59203] helo=[192.168.1.3]) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id DF/F1-10569-FB074B15; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 12:10:39 +0000 From: Paul Osborne Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 08:10:38 -0400 References: <06F5050C-0395-4A08-AD55-EEE46B4CECB4@panix.com> To: Simon Matthews Cc: MGS Subject: Re: [Mgs] Castrol GT-LMA brake fluid: No longer available? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I have been using this , in the black bottle, in both of my MGs and it works fine. My local dealer told me that the LMA is no longer available and this is the replacment. paulo On Jun 8, 2013, at 7:52 PM, Simon Matthews wrote: > I think you are correct. > > I think that they are deemphasizing the "synthetic" nature of the product. > On the bottle of the presumed replacement that I bought, the word > "synthetic" was in smaller type on the rear of the bottle. > > Simon > > > On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Aaron Whiteman wrote: > >> >> On Jun 8, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Simon Matthews >> wrote: >> >>> Has Castrol stopped making GT LMA brake fluid? >> >> I'm going to take a flyer and guess that Castrol has changed the name. >> >> >> http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9045405&co ntentId=7081185 >> >> Key feature #2 "Unique Low Moisture Activity (LMA) formulation ...." >> >> And then there's the product sheets: >> >> http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp_internet/castrol/castrol_usa/STAGING/loc al_assets/downloads/p,q/pds_GTLMABrakeFluid.pdf >> >> http://msdspds.castrol.com/bpglis/FusionPDS.nsf/Files/0027D9455250B6C780257AA 900537025/$File/Castrol%5FBrake%5FFluid%5FDOT%5F4%5F03742.pdf >> >> (http://preview.tinyurl.com/mhsd2w and http://preview.tinyurl.com/l27jyxe >> >> Same properties, using the same methods. >> >> -- >> Aaron > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/paul@ece.rochester.edu _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 9 18:38:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CA24056E for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2013 18:38:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm32-vm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm32-vm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.216.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 087684054B for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2013 18:34:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.137.12.62] by nm32.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2013 00:30:00 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.196] by tm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2013 00:30:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2013 00:30:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 93441 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2013 00:30:00 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370824200; bh=TXxHG5uhRPDbO8uUhw0z0wxRHlvYDlpCTWXgto9nGvw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Rti7QutKo9YIm5/ESfQKhNozsc8eIehRDcuGVUYCcaokD38I7+UuoWB486uP0XsED/TJiIxRdPiyK2uOEFvMPru41Gt5Z684eylsKfKDlW2k7zWA7R+hMC0w5XgncqwEbBBhZ06NgFA73d8M2C5ZR0syz1OGk2LVIIJtLa7qmvw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=yLe3Q1suScsbsPlEwULHLpu5rA7HDpkKcq8GQomc3jy1XdSAjgBJe3b3iGjHLKFvfJ2cZVZFj5pIWNbMLLgerOe1nRGUC//vUsIc4KuThkBblPIXgAvb066vQ2FXA+Y9XdOcNjjL7id/wF7z4b9ZAMJpMQ0Clu71GwgAHQgtHz8=; rZfryH4Vk9yZAAZ_M6p0oZayfPuTPp2GmOgiyc8uO02WeH8pdF7kQJTnHKhl 87ZwhQIuwhgWQya7SF7TpVxiqOgp56X0cLLHjaubFySA9xYMKwzk6bjpcd7s E3qQgXYORc3HsJhNMf5SzLOjBnd_aoWBYtkS6vpT7hC7JN2Eg13xZ8zyknhs nuQO4uuvAPOmAa18otXf5FQu4LKtpiDqL88B5LLc.OVTOX3L9Dc4MyKkVJpE r7V5.ypAl0B1F1REQkZAh_HebY.OAVl.bsJFH3hSKOO8ak_iX9Agt6HloaJQ PnNdg00ZHZb13P2tbfuZoTnohsOGIXwVWL4KYwnVd9SWnaxeRKPL.TfCNQSA vhFlEgBIbSFKNOG87LpbmUIc5yrLpReU8l1TX6KhFOWChaZ4WLPFdhqilH8t ZWUUd9imDsZ5McNrR1xfWlPSg0.7.eDPVa4hcbZWjRjiAJB0LfK.4pMuMJKk bB1s2L7ooeaXQYy1FXA1uioHf1k4mliOH90oPZyXUAA1WRxd0YE_9p3iAe3U lw7XWRLvtVzhKibrCDIeaH.VyyMSEMRcnaI7Gk_B_bYHbtC4MZXrF3XiSPf9 32LLuiaGD2PtNC8OH0H3AmDCC3jE5wd2V_wVaWPHSj943rHLlOFFP6lZtUWA - Received: from [98.125.172.193] by web163906.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 17:30:00 PDT CgpPSywgaXQncyBvbmx5IGluIHBhc3NpbmcsIGJ1dCBpdCdzIGluIHRoZSBjb250ZXh0IG9mIGxvY2FsbHkKcHJvZHVjZWQgImx1eHVyeSIgYnJhbmRzIHRyeWluZyB0byBjb21wZXRlIHdpdGggdGhlIGxpa2VzCm9mIEJNVywgTWVyY2VkZXMgYW5kIENhZGlsbGFjLgoKVGhpcyBVUkwgc2VlbXMgdG8gYXZvaWQgdGhlIHBheXdhbGw6CgpodHRwOi8vb25saW5lLndzai5jb20vYXJ0aWNsZS9TQjEwMDAxNDI0MTI3ODg3MzI0NjgyMjA0NTc4NTE2OTAzNDQyNjc3NjQ4Lmh0bWwKCsKgCkRhdmlkIEJyZW5lbWFuICABMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 17:30:00 -0700 (PDT) From: David Breneman To: "mgs@autox.team.net" Subject: [Mgs] MG Mentioned in Wall Street Journal Article Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net OK, it's only in passing, but it's in the context of locally produced "luxury" brands trying to compete with the likes of BMW, Mercedes and Cadillac. This URL seems to avoid the paywall: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324682204578516903442677648.html David Breneman david_breneman@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 10:51:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB374043E for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:51:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f178.google.com (mail-ea0-f178.google.com [209.85.215.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9DB40416 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:51:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f178.google.com with SMTP id l15so3397545eak.23 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:46:16 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:from:to:references:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :x-mailer:x-mimeole:x-gm-message-state; bh=8I9H08WaXpg+GtTJW4ZHilwGktUh0nGZ89F1TzvOvXU=; b=PFzZL+x3bftaJAfNNFXEuU1gGRduRvyrC0wxLCLqHEaLrl9UEQeK4Y42bV2sAjVnoG OMt0xulQWWWFZfa2xBpM+nNHPwa2kLdHqMk3F8vdNCJDmlDFgyQjG5Vn8VMDQ/R8IYnJ A1xKp+rVvrkxxZ9B6+WNwMGHsmDEp4xa+CGnmOzMrXQNHbqzYmqjULOt2wj2aKqJwXYo yiYfq8trHQtR88t6dOVSx8zR6ureOkizld8/m3AjdhkGVCKBDgNV++d4+cDeB6FR8ekC Y8EuCmJL2cHyQMCAQtP67aujPTcliXZ/xh+xq01E5WX/D9kavueg5YYX9GoBY2nDQ49i Puxg== Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:46:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from paul (know-mailgateway-4.server.virginmedia.net. [62.254.26.109]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 3sm24225735een.7.2013.06.10.09.46.15 for (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:46:15 -0700 (PDT) From: "PaulHunt73" To: "Simon Matthews" , "MGS" References: Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:39:50 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Castrol GT-LMA brake fluid: No longer available? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do?categoryId=9045405&contentId=7081185 The 'LMA' part is in the text. ----- Original Message ----- > Has Castrol stopped making GT LMA brake fluid? I could not find it in my > local store and I cannot find it on Castol's website. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 13:18:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750E340525 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:18:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f173.google.com (mail-ve0-f173.google.com [209.85.128.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5684041A; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 13:15:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f173.google.com with SMTP id jw11so5096596veb.18 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:10:09 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=+COWC4MWgtQaz9f8YtETOz0P9z79Dx00oSsFyLIr9Q8=; b=pzYzvwRiNqz4dq7qM9i/0e0skbodSU+m4lMqGGstJnSO3amxF7XELWxuR9JVqbt2Nr Mf180hOGMHAuR+nEP6f2NeSPwFzvRv98jdxzYIzXQ2tWs92/YDiUMVhyeBnknThIA7DH vAJws2Lrt3pOIh2UlDzW0TldYhNyL8kCJko5mt+tIcV5z+IH6McrQN7Lsd6A0cqScYn9 eQhAAUvkE7Dk8+3XK2ZGqFBhEuv/p/EAx9jKxcGaktvEapmxak+7I9Vt6wQAtrx2D+al FBeuP9nbFyGy4mbtkXiNrE99wfjmqZTR/OJDUq6n+0pmKyfgNU5sIrGyT5Sz2lAMvvqc M4Zw== ym19mr5571579vdb.38.1370891409208; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.41.104 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:10:09 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mgs] right-rear spring + brake plumbing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, Been back in the garage. I have a 3-week hiatus coming up in about 9 days so I have found a natural stopping point; Everything on the frame, suspension and brakes, to be finished from the hoop back. Easily achievable, leaving time for another commitment. A day or two ago, I cleaned and refinished all the right-rear spring mounting hardware. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1316.JPG All the rubber bits are in hand too so I had no excuse to not attack the spring. What a dirty pain - but worth it. While waiting for the primer to dry on the spring leaves, I fitted the shackle bushings. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1317.JPG Partially reassembled, I primered and painted the spring. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/HPIM1319.JPG Here's just a quick picture of the spring going back together, complete with new rubber pads. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130610_130104.jpg Once assembled, the spring was mounted on the front bushing and the rear shackle. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130610_134230.jpg As with the left hand side, the nuts are not yet tight, awaiting full loading. A little earlier in the day, and while spring primer and/or paint was drying, I installed the 4-way block and the new brake line from the 4-way to the rear flex hose. Here's how it looks after careful 'shaping'. Again, this is Cu-Al alloy tubing, as supplied by Moss. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130610_134242.jpg Here's a closer look at the aft end of the line. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130610_134247.jpg A kinda-ugly bend bend appears in this picture but it is just the angle of the photograph. Actually, its three bends; a dog-leg out from the frame rail and then, a bend to align with the flex line fitting. The bolt holding the clamp is one of the new grade #8 bolts for the dampers. Here's a look at the forward end at the 4-way. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130610_134256.jpg That too is a complex bend; one away from the frame rail and the other to align with the 4-way. And here's a last picture of that corner. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130610_134316.jpg I'll post pictures of the right-rear spring mount this evening. The spring is mounted but the axle is not yet attached. Once that work is done, I can shape and install the right-rear brake line. That's actually pretty fun work. Its a little artistic, getting the bends clean and neat with everything fitting properly... -rick, in steamy hot Houston _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 11 11:28:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A781403BB for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:28:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f170.google.com (mail-vc0-f170.google.com [209.85.220.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799CE40325; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:19:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f170.google.com with SMTP id hf12so5545345vcb.15 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:14:20 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ESgZTxHg4XYzRhMDqkxcQTJuu/Z/pWGicILVRDsZrRo=; b=PVMUITIocReGhRbSbDpjJk/wc9SDpJj9o4XpN7TwCjxrcBI0uRaiejBmvzcQ0zGFgi etkkKSoQ/mjcNkYWQyxdPqdR0IROW93hNNMQ2GyVTOMKsIISu5rvNGMr9DK8ELC13WKe oEJ26FM6XnV1XoDKzkyWKVJCpBPDypldeuTd0YvcVul/cLSWn7Pyck+WV5+ptX0KTT5N IJK24v2riHeI2MQG9NL/APBnGWfMf+HAaLVsPS/uRqYlZgWkON+nWWk6f/Y5bt9ej/7o 6BeTTgVg8hongcMnFwCIEDqP552qhCVBISEexyjhfMH5Hov8rLS/sg+dcaAy09ZRDN9/ i7ZQ== ds1mr7031926vdb.87.1370970859868; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.41.104 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 12:14:19 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mgs] Refinishing Armstrong dampers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, Today I refinished the left-rear damper and ran it through its full extent of travel, compression and rebound. It moved smoothly with more resistance in compression - as designed. Once the paint has cured for another day, I'll open the filler port and check/top-up the fluid. I also checked the 'silent-blocks' on the link, or whatever, and verified that they were viable. Here's the 'essence of nasty' during cleaning and degreasing. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130611_075008.jpg Once clean and free of grease, I decided that the aluminum finish was just too stained to look nice - so I sprayed it with 'Cast Coat Aluminum' engine paint. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130611_075021.jpg I then painted the arm and link black and mounted it to the frame. The new bolts I used are about 20mm too long. I'll change them out for the correct length bolts once I get back to the hardware store. Here are a series of pictures, mostly virtual duplicates. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130611_114349.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130611_114355.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130611_114408.jpg http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130611_114410.jpg The right-hand damper is on the workbench with most of the crud scraped off. I haven't started with the degreaser. I got hot, dirty and hungry. :-P Perhaps I can finish the cleanup and also install it today. I also need to clean and spray the right-rear handbrake cable with clear-coat, just as I did for the left hand side. With best regards, -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 11 12:31:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EEB440424 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 12:31:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp172.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp172.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5EC40325 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 12:31:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp47.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B6F603A8462; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:26:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smtp47.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: don-AT-napanet.net) with ESMTPSA id 2277E3A845B; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:26:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:25:42 -0700 To: mgs@autox.team.net,mg-t@autox.team.net From: Don mail.com> References: Subject: Re: [Mgs] Refinishing Armstrong dampers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Rick, My experience has been that if an old lever action shock is covered with oily greasy stuff, it is leaking and that is why it is dirty. If it isn't leaking, it should be pretty much clean. Just my tupence of MG experience. Perhaps others can chime in on this, but from what I have seen, the shocks will generally be clean if the seals are still sealing. Don At 10:14 AM 6/11/2013, Richard Lindsay wrote: >Hello Friends, > >Today I refinished the left-rear damper and ran it through its full >extent of travel, compression and rebound. It moved smoothly with >more resistance in compression - as designed. Once the paint has >cured for another day, I'll open the filler port and check/top-up the >fluid. I also checked the 'silent-blocks' on the link, or whatever, >and verified that they were viable. > >Here's the 'essence of nasty' during cleaning and degreasing. > >http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130611_075008.jpg > >Once clean and free of grease, I decided that the aluminum finish was >just too stained to look nice - so I sprayed it with 'Cast Coat >Aluminum' engine paint. > >http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130611_075021.jpg > >I then painted the arm and link black and mounted it to the frame. >The new bolts I used are about 20mm too long. I'll change them out >for the correct length bolts once I get back to the hardware store. >Here are a series of pictures, mostly virtual duplicates. > >http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130611_114349.jpg > >http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130611_114355.jpg > >http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130611_114408.jpg > >http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130611_114410.jpg > >The right-hand damper is on the workbench with most of the crud >scraped off. I haven't started with the degreaser. I got hot, dirty >and hungry. :-P Perhaps I can finish the cleanup and also install it >today. I also need to clean and spray the right-rear handbrake cable >with clear-coat, just as I did for the left hand side. > >With best regards, > >-rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 12 09:02:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71B584044F for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:02:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DEF640074; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:02:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id q12so3198414vbe.27 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 07:57:10 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=6DktiHjdt5qErpb+q6KyQlqe0eo9+8OaRR0J9XGEVPY=; b=b+ZrzvvLlsL3dXPYNfxORxm05EF4tTyAgsr5dWqOvFDscoeh7YEB/iFn2UcmY2tXW5 whNFmD+dYNIxxvCBfsMIpYNJczA5MWtgJzJYuArbf0uljVwB4yOxfPseCT6kqj4bqevo 4oli7V6YdWi23cTWjx88qyJTQqsxNX9gVfU4yZSmz54m5elA0QNLPe43tkjyh0t5mFOc 1gNWqZxklgbaf3HHN4L6EB1pBQXe9Dt85JwCcbAP1gptfCbctV3pf7yGf6C6uA60PQCv NU3ToBCI8PCHCawP5M+CED5G60p2InL8BP7ZqBdKF3KYcFbRSjTeKtEKJtDWetvXpgZP EJLQ== s11mr9788624vcz.61.1371049030462; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 07:57:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.41.104 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 07:57:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 09:57:10 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mgs] No pictures Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, No pictures this morning. Just a note to report that both dampers have been freshened, refinished and installed on the recently restored frame/suspension. Now remaining is the restoration and installation of the right-rear handbrake cable. And then, until I rebuild the brakes, the rear end is done! If the Houston heat doesn't kill me, I'll start of the fuel tank later today. -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 12 14:24:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F07F40522 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:24:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f171.google.com (mail-ve0-f171.google.com [209.85.128.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0419B403E7; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 14:21:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f171.google.com with SMTP id b10so7086817vea.2 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:16:27 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=vYmxfeIQHi09f4ysU650cypMrAK1AYEmnDmykw6i6v8=; b=OvRx+Nedm+76Ie0z5jqZe2OT9uCQhlyGLK0fllC/ww1KFYFy1ho7SXk+QMW9/lTtk2 PM+70Uoi7OZiOmXlTkdB6ucO+EyHHEnksXj5Ks/Ih4+ty4E/uAkuq8w82mBw6ob+ZqVG 6Vxd/2P7hDt+diCuof0yaA6zDzuuWQUNMdBOkTwUa4NUhOzx3l2MY+kgEGM8i6KTXmc/ uviojC5JGjy7lGDbrJOOmqanJqYd5Wh0bKR9QoNBfOfs3JXuuAq0NIgHczxOAfczstmv TMYB/eYOKBVIhO5GXhtimN8n2mLclmH2/6NPy3ngQ6pB2/miwNVvzRV/UEO2WNt7VTyY DRPg== w5mr10414871ves.16.1371068187377; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.41.104 with HTTP; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 13:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:16:27 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mgs] Fuel tank refinishing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, Today, after completing and installing the right-rear damper, I decided to begin restoration of the TD's fuel tank. First inspection, done weeks ago, told me that the tank was sound and that the rust observed was just a thin surface rust. Inspection and sanding today confirmed both assumptions. I had already removed the drain plug, outlet port, complete with filter, and the fuel-level-light sender. I had also flushed the tank with soapy water, multiple times, just to make the tank safe to handle. As of now, the exterior of the tank is clean, smooth and primered. Here's a look while the primer is drying. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130612_143655.jpg I had restored the fuel level sensor and verified its correct operation. A kind MG-T List member told me that its difficult to get the sender to seal, so I made sure to clean the tank flange carefully. There was no rust there so it was easy to get the surface clean. The sender is also nice and clean. Another member of the List told me to use aircraft fuel system gasket sealant when reinstalling the sender. I bought some and will use it not only for the tank-to-sender joint but also to better seal the sender's cover. The next step will be to clean out the tank, now that the exterior is clean. I'll use Restomotive's Marine-Clean, already purchased. http://www.por15.com/MARINE-CLEAN/productinfo/MCG/1 I list the link for information only. I have no commercial connection other than being a satisfied customer. And after that process is complete, I'll examine the inside of the tank for corrosion (rust). If its clean or reasonably clean, I'll flush it with Prep-&-Ready to coat the rust with zinc phosphate and put it into operation. http://www.por15.com/METAL-READY/productinfo/MRG/ Same disclaimer. If the inside has more than 'a little' rust, I'll do the zinc phosphate bit then coat it with Moss's 'Slushing Compound'. http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=61572&SortOrder=20 And again, no connection. The drain plug and the fuel outlet port, complete with filter, are already restored and ready to reinstall on fresh fiber washers (probably coated with the sealant referenced above). On an allied topic; I hope to flush out the fuel line, rather than replace it. Its clear but I'm sure, coated with nasty fuel gum. I'll just soak and flush it out with the Marine-Clean. And that's it for Wednesday. -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 15 13:07:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568004054F for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:07:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f53.google.com (mail-vb0-f53.google.com [209.85.212.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410B640414; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:05:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f53.google.com with SMTP id p12so1132680vbe.26 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 12:04:25 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rUu/evvHKF+dV+qTJSL8/Vyrell06s2btHABnkFYqHI=; b=BzJ2zJQJ/3UuGLUIRHK0dYj4ffhezw6ct3OA+t4kvm45f/OcS1uMC0Iu8ArDLYZcod I9+a7CJ0AKFgpT9SLTM/EriJK/v0J+MqSdHsJmlVe5tsUe5abuoN4/TSgnnADhdgC64p I5Q85BqfTgPRHaDWSwg/Jh7/hPPxNDMbYKZCMQYNBVhp5O9TMKQrRmzmTyshY/egcqGb 9GsI1geCSNtViwjtXNaI/EKqpBPfSlC+h59C4oaFFkAW8GhG8dN5qQORXCXgpGgUw73V VGiCN37mcwP2eRWO824q0iB7WtYy63hM9efcXAt/lEMMfXz8M9JqoGq30Fk1X19JFnHs FpMQ== u10mr2546512vek.39.1371323065325; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 12:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.41.104 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 12:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 14:04:25 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , mg-t@autox.team.net, Rui Gigante Subject: [Mgs] Thermostat, fins. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, I gave the TD's thermostat one more chance. I heated it to well above boiling and the diaphragm opened fine - but wouldn't close when refrigerated, except with thumb pressure and even then, it wasn't completely closed at sub freezing temperatures. Soooo.... ...I gutted the ba$+ard! Here are the thermo-bits. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130615_133558.jpg With the unit now nothing more than a tube with a flange, I cleaned it out inside and degreased the exterior again. Here it is nice and clean ready for painting. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130615_132845.jpg Aside: Here's a neat trick for masking engine bits. Place masking tape over the not-to-be-painted flange, overlapping the edges. With a small hammer, gently tap around the edge of the flange. Doing so will cause the edge to cut the tape! Just remove the trimmed off bit, verify that the remaining tape is secure, and you're ready to paint! Here's the same part with a thin coat of gray engine primer. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130615_133344.jpg And with its coat of engine paint. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20130615_133532.jpg This part will be okay to handle (gently) in about 30 minutes, but as the paint and primer both need to cure, the finish won't be 'hard' until tomorrow. A wise MG-T list member told me that his TD does just fine with a conventional thermostat placed between the curved bit from the head, and the base of the old thermostat body. He's using a 180 degree thermostat. That is my plan now too, except I'll use a 160 thermostat with a weep hole. And should it fail, I can always order the new thermostat and gasket and be back to 'correct'. More details: My original thermostat was stamped "72C, 162F". That is the value of the replacement I will buy. -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 19 15:46:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C69774274D for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:46:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm29-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm29-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.255]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F4542719 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 15:41:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.199] by nm29.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jun 2013 21:40:25 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.240] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jun 2013 21:40:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp111.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jun 2013 21:40:25 -0000 8.sSWEkmgEXhRglrO0_fc8GqWESLr7Uf_Y5dK7rkIaGlszSSx1mPxAGbgpwr C2Od9a3eCV.ZNhy_BBmwv13gBTxpWS7UHi7LxhAQwmOmFsc7WgHi445vsxaS Xwx2jcXhzy98Er9hIxpb4u5rXnt.NtbuD4UNR2u5FWbZxlUIr_nGm9XiQs5W 8lGaSD53ZJWeM26KtsCdzbxJ5kZIInyCd.m2hAKdTRHcmeQGQRxqyFNwZDaM jBOjwEx5mCksL6qbvVfPiPflC5RmkrejgZHw2rvW_PjUPx1LhwHDl7AfMa5x HkfhI40KxcCxrh.hYM8GHD5F1TrzT7A81XaeHP3UMA1jszZP0S_2ELCcZHcv xixEjyt3sffrmlobGEEnmBlEW2cw1tNi8p36UbTvvFGTEgKeeC95LPndfoML aeDpX0MhD47aRX402PihD18e1WD4mkwzgU0ZpVXHXnlfM smtp111.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jun 2013 14:40:25 -0700 PDT From: Duvall Video Productions Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:40:25 -0500 To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] MGA engine color Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone have the color codes for the MGA engine paint that Moss published many years ago? I used to have different codes for the XPAG, A series and B series engines written down but cannot find them any longer. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 19 16:07:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DF942750 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:07:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nlpi162.prodigy.net (nlpi162.sbcis.sbc.com [207.115.36.34]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4675642716 for ; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:07:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from barney-gaylord.mgaguru.com (adsl-99-141-130-158.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net [99.141.130.158]) (authenticated bits=0) by nlpi162.prodigy.net (8.14.4 smptauth/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r5JM5uY3011764; Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:05:57 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 17:05:48 -0500 To: Duvall Video Productions , mgs@autox.team.net From: Barney Gaylord References: Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGA engine color Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Yup. See here: http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/paint/pt105b.htm Barney Gaylord 1958 MGA with an attitude http://MGAguru.com At 04:40 PM 6/19/2013 -0500, Duvall Video Productions wrote: >Does anyone have the color codes for the MGA engine paint that Moss published >many years ago? > >I used to have different codes for the XPAG, A series and B series engines >written down but cannot find them any longer. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 22 18:15:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7509642735 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 18:15:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp1.ctinetworks.com (smtp1.ctinetworks.com [205.166.61.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E1842728 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 18:15:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from home45dd83c8be (75.97.219.115.res-cmts.sth3.ptd.net [75.97.219.115]) (Authenticated sender: davewillner@pa.net) by smtp1.ctinetworks.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A9501585CF9 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 20:13:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "davewillner" To: Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 20:14:44 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] 1970 MGB turn signal switch replacement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I need to replace the turn signal switch and I'm having trouble removing the two piece steering column cowl on my 70 after removing (I think all of them) all the screws. The bottom seams to split ok but the top is not "braking" free and I'm afraid I may crack them with any more force. Is there a hidden screw or some trick I need to try. Appreciate the help, thanks Dave Willner Stroudsburg PA 59 TR3A 70 MGB 70 BSA 441 VS _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 22 18:54:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26BBD42753 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 18:54:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f42.google.com (mail-vb0-f42.google.com [209.85.212.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AA6542729 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 18:54:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f42.google.com with SMTP id i3so7168039vbh.29 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 17:52:38 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=JizR5qGTIgZLsqmbfBdA7X1dpZ3j/A3YurBMMlQfaJs=; b=yt+LhSKuyL5wJWJBYW9UE1H78zCVkIN/ZzHP/9nZXNDTz21Ad8ypft87Nv0FE9M/jC xA0ArWFOh7+yZ2cYa2tnt4Sdxgwd2oC9HUzwUXPhJKw+OC9Y2/qJ+Dw/R6MzFlJCi2Mu /rzmbAhUAmAwpoVr84H2ceOqky4nuh7pooM96rn2eVe9W+09MVH7mweOa7M2l3hy+0Te NVbOhkebB3sL+NMu2pvOtreBgR4cFw2GILlFXBYaCJscjR/fV2stNmcm6ufIOo4KwOOB UbaYVZBnCDbGhw/6GHYfZ81IJ+4R0pgAxRfC30ooyG9E1j6MNHhsvJnJRWW4gUBNbZQh LhqQ== bq7mr8746898ved.51.1371948758906; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 17:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.21.137 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 17:52:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 17:52:38 -0700 From: Simon Matthews To: MGS Subject: [Mgs] 1971 MGB front pulley split, any advice on replacement? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net The front pulley on my daughter's '71 MGB has split (outer turns independently of inner). Any advice on replacement? I have a compressor and impact wrench, so I should not have problems removing the bolt, once I can get to it. What size is the bolt? I need to make sure I have a suitable socket. I did this some years ago on my MGA, but was wondering if there are any extra considerations for the MGB? Also, is it safe to forget to replace the belt that drives the air pump (smog pump)? Simon _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 22 19:34:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E1242730 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 19:34:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9F6D542729 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 19:33:44 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1371951121; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:Content-Type; b=ljQkASPmh9rvlKq8BxbDda5fezJ9T15QH2lbdt3HYhpT5dC35C1XkhpjQB3im+cfH de68pZ3pmduJs9U8/5IrnF5tBPqAo9Er6hMjHrMX05YuI8DHf6zttnzV6JiMrXdacw WvxVVlScxvTh7Abmxi/A7XR7EiYNCphWzCxD7CV4= Received: from desk (99-122-46-152.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net [99.122.46.152]) by smtpout03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABJ6NWAPAC7C5H2 for (sender ); Sat, 22 Jun 2013 18:31:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Maynard Hirsch" To: Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 20:32:04 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac5vsRKIF0juNg3KSOqqcoPzGm9vvQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Mgs] Front pulley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know if new pulleys are available, but you have two options. 1. Get a used one. There are many out there. 2. Get yours repaired. Look up harmonic balancer on the web for companies that do that kind of work. I think it runs about $100. The nut is 1 5/16" There is a locking tab washer that has to be bent down before you remove the mut. Maynard ____________________________________________________________ Boost Mobile® Prepaid No Contract Or Hassles With Prepaid Plans And Devices At Boost Mobile! http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/51c6500d7264d500c6db8st03vuc _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 23 02:19:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767A6403E6 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 02:19:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy12-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy12-pub.bluehost.com [50.87.16.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9770E400A4 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 02:18:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 20675 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jun 2013 08:17:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy12.bluehost.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 2013 08:17:14 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=r9I7KoZGvLKPuyCpt5iaFv4xhJkGARXwMWYwXIU4BEU=; b=c6zNXinRE60K2Mh2Le3zLr4av3MaEPu67OWh25PIiq4U7JLhy7hdE/DdkxIFT6jFo8Rg3GxPAX2fNnAoumVA1UkfRQJMya2g/uVSZg+dhhWYvzVu2vA7wHYz5kkVMAA5; Received: from [24.15.13.164] (port=36406 helo=[192.168.0.106]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UqfU1-0006UI-F2; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 02:17:13 -0600 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 03:17:11 -0500 From: "\" Just Brits \" Shop" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: mgs@autox.team.net References: <005101ce6fb1$780f5b90$682e12b0$@netzero.net> {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with sales@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Mgs] Front pulley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net On 6/22/2013 8:32 PM, Maynard Hirsch wrote: > Look up harmonic balancer on the web for > companies that do that kind of work. http://www.damperdoctor.com/ is the one that a couple Spridgeteers (couple of racer included) have used. Screw the "...on the web..." ( Maynard ), just use the link at the bottom of EVERY List post: Archive:http://www.team.net/archive provided very considerately by MJB ! ! ! ! If you HAVE used The Archives then you know you can use any/all of them. If you HAVEN'T used them , then go LEARN something ! ! ! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com Provider of Joke Mailing (just like this one, but mostly for jokes &/or pic funnies) = 9issa (get it ?) Provider of Political 'conversations' (just like this one, but mostly for jokes &/or pic funnies) = PolySci_101 Both with Archives ! Both OPEN to ALL (MGers included - LOL): To join "Jokes" send a mail TO: 9issa-request@justbrits.com w/NO "Subject" & just subscribe in body. To join "PolySci" send a mail TO: polysci_101-request@justbrits.com w/NO "Subject" & just subscribe in body. Rest IS automatic just like the autox Lists (& i was using to software before MJB). _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 23 05:43:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC7F403FE for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 05:43:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1411B40338 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 05:39:18 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1371987453; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=B4DLAZYmdRkf+gnuuz6WFOs5Oipn1UryLc4NBgt6OVuoPvQWmVMKfczUWsT7CN7Q5 V2g4kcXKIh3vDqzY8hssmh009SeqLviKEqpBtNPH+NItLMHESONEZC9W5M15KDGhPK 8KCRPwZtB0TjXfcDqxPbjuOovDsVN/GZKlPF/+Vs= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail-beta03.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.103]) by smtpout03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABJ6PZQHA2TREHA for (sender ); Sun, 23 Jun 2013 04:36:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [108.88.216.197] by webmail-beta03.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 11:35:12 GMT From: "mgbob@juno.com" Full-Name: "mgbob@juno.com" Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 11:35:12 GMT To: simon.d.matthews@gmail.com Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] 1971 MGB front pulley split, any advice on replacement? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Removal is easy with the air wrench. 1 5/16 socket,same as axle nuts needed. There should be a tab washer behind the nut. Not only have some forgotten to replace the air pump belt, there are some who have forgotten to replace the air pump itself. It's hard to believe, but true. Bob ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Simon Matthews To: MGS Subject: [Mgs] 1971 MGB front pulley split, any advice on replacement? Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 17:52:38 -0700 The front pulley on my daughter's '71 MGB has split (outer turns independently of inner). Any advice on replacement? I have a compressor and impact wrench, so I should not have problems removing the bolt, once I can get to it. What size is the bolt? I need to make sure I have a suitable socket. I did this some years ago on my MGA, but was wondering if there are any extra considerations for the MGB? Also, is it safe to forget to replace the belt that drives the air pump (smog pump)? Simon _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbob@juno.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 23 08:05:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8D540425 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 08:05:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-4.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-4.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A2940075 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 08:05:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-4-imp with bizsmtp id rq3K1l0094LtS4201q3LPn; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 15:03:20 +0100 a=ER-18PSln8QA:10 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=Dr_uh1-Z9nwA:10 a=U04m-dtZ0rYdlLnxYxkA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: "davewillner" , References: <6841C73EB76B491F817CB55230A1948E@home45dd83c8be> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 14:59:03 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] 1970 MGB turn signal switch replacement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net How many screws have you removed? On UK cars with two stalks and the cowling halves top and bottom instead of right and left there are two screws shrouded by the instrument binnacle. If not removed for a long time the cowling can stick to the harness wrapping. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- >I need to replace the turn signal switch and I'm having trouble removing >the > two piece steering column cowl on my 70 after removing (I think all of > them) > all the screws. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 23 09:04:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3A74042C for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 09:04:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from cpsmtpb-ews09.kpnxchange.com (cpsmtpb-ews09.kpnxchange.com [213.75.39.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C98F40338 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 09:04:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cpsps-ews13.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.180]) by cpsmtpb-ews09.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Sun, 23 Jun 2013 17:02:28 +0200 Received: from CPSMTPM-CMT104.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.20]) by cpsps-ews13.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Sun, 23 Jun 2013 17:02:28 +0200 Received: from PolderPC ([77.171.11.159]) by CPSMTPM-CMT104.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6002.18264); Sun, 23 Jun 2013 17:02:28 +0200 From: "Hans Duinhoven" To: "'PaulHunt73'" , "'davewillner'" , References: <6841C73EB76B491F817CB55230A1948E@home45dd83c8be> <6476E19AE7AE41728AE65899E726047B@paul> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 17:02:27 +0200 Thread-Index: AQJOewheUZSk1vRj/Slwh3dntedEmAGiPMvYmDY8x4A= Content-Language: nl FILETIME=[AD8E5BB0:01CE7022] Subject: Re: [Mgs] 1970 MGB turn signal switch replacement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net The US Spec cowl looks like your V8 type Paul - I had similar issues with mine. So I got a replacement cowl, though the 1971 type was hard to find. I now have a later type - difference is the smooth skin type and the other is more "leather" print type. Cheers, Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens PaulHunt73 Verzonden: zondag 23 juni 2013 15:59 Aan: davewillner; mgs@autox.team.net Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] 1970 MGB turn signal switch replacement How many screws have you removed? On UK cars with two stalks and the cowling halves top and bottom instead of right and left there are two screws shrouded by the instrument binnacle. If not removed for a long time the cowling can stick to the harness wrapping. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- >I need to replace the turn signal switch and I'm having trouble >removing the two piece steering column cowl on my 70 after removing (I >think all of > them) > all the screws. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/h.duinhoven@planet.nl _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 23 16:18:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9A840434 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 16:18:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f45.google.com (mail-vb0-f45.google.com [209.85.212.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928914042F for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 16:17:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f45.google.com with SMTP id p14so7476066vbm.4 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 15:16:07 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=JjSZciu5IyA4lErlEUGvSnwlHfToUt/lbRjtraBx1uA=; b=i0MBNYfOHMoi/0Ueg2HQSfM2PKIViZOmAF4meh2GdMgy8kLPLrplHZyXd4VkKWMwdY eYkvvsny88D9XaBGZKIsGPQfD9RxEN+qMWOz5XVf8W9XnAfsahVc8PLR9DYh4dEl9QVR frWeiD4UjyvrWkWqfXltG7OxGKx/fUSQfBdf30lQHHgvhipzdQf1CbHw58vGgX+ahWyU YS7HNbDU2E0I6+LhCUI+76XHcguHGqsK3GtLNUAxO3t1d+7XEBl2VsqJ00vGfHcR0/yV kOozj49k6fzr6P5XOUYiWGp910eIvL3vmwpGkbNlOZ7BNno0KZx8V0VlOuHK0D6Q7sr6 uB/g== qr10mr9929150vcb.25.1372025767508; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 15:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.21.137 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 15:16:07 -0700 (PDT) References: <005101ce6fb1$780f5b90$682e12b0$@netzero.net> <51C6AF07.8050707@justbrits.com> Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 15:16:07 -0700 From: Simon Matthews To: Just Brits Shop Cc: MGS Subject: Re: [Mgs] Front pulley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for all the comments. I found a used pulley on eBay and bought it already. Hopefully it will last a reasonable length of time. Simon On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 1:17 AM, " Just Brits " Shop wrote: > On 6/22/2013 8:32 PM, Maynard Hirsch wrote: > > Look up harmonic balancer on the web for > > companies that do that kind of work. > > http://www.damperdoctor.com/ > > is the one that a couple Spridgeteers (couple of racer included) have > used. > > Screw the "...on the web..." ( Maynard ), just use the link at the > bottom of EVERY List post: > > Archive:http://www.team.net/archive > > provided very considerately by MJB ! ! ! ! > > If you HAVE used The Archives then you know you can use any/all of > them. If you HAVEN'T > used them , then go LEARN something ! ! ! > > Ed > Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com > Provider of Joke Mailing (just like this one, but mostly for jokes > &/or pic funnies) = 9issa (get it ?) > Provider of Political 'conversations' (just like this one, but mostly > for jokes &/or pic funnies) = PolySci_101 > Both with Archives ! > Both OPEN to ALL (MGers included - LOL): > To join "Jokes" send a mail TO: > 9issa-request@justbrits.com w/NO "Subject" & just > subscribe in body. > To join "PolySci" send a mail TO: > polysci_101-request@justbrits.com w/NO "Subject" & just > subscribe in body. > Rest IS automatic just like the autox Lists (& i was using to > software before MJB). _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 23 19:40:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A025540430 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:40:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f174.google.com (mail-ve0-f174.google.com [209.85.128.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB3A40066 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:40:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f174.google.com with SMTP id oz10so8065289veb.5 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 18:38:54 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=/hbovewLtStA0d3ROFFI6dJvJcg9a0YUJhpFKcbS7i0=; b=1ElhvUIEdZ+/aCDmRO1Zerf3eWTWCYbcPqOzEpAUrKEgw9oe6ZD2lNlSZleHnA1YeJ 24m+sA4T9WLNYufXhycZt2WOKTGi3XKuwjE5Z1j7m990RuZTWVhii2h5Oy4b6VGBLmOw 7OHPgCjkVWa0CHnfVdWtak/B/UjQixfvl6x/abiweEZgjM2cgEC3JtIbzEteAljAwPoZ z75KB+x5zr2cObAkUIpLOB+awwx5BI/r6Hjvp4nzN8mjPnsVIq5fgd+buHPIPlkTk5iz fi0FYwCuXqADAweTcsDOAtwaIl5jMAEP9lSPehu7C5L9c/4ksYAr13TTTRa3J1aar7pb iTBw== nm7mr1519616veb.51.1372037934472; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 18:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.21.137 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 18:38:54 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 18:38:54 -0700 From: Simon Matthews To: MGS Subject: Re: [Mgs] 1971 MGB front pulley split, any advice on replacement? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I was able to remove the radiator and eventually remove the bolt holding in the front pulley. Next question: how to get the front pulley off the shaft? Simon On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Simon Matthews wrote: > The front pulley on my daughter's '71 MGB has split (outer turns > independently of inner). > > Any advice on replacement? I have a compressor and impact wrench, so I > should not have problems removing the bolt, once I can get to it. What size > is the bolt? I need to make sure I have a suitable socket. > > I did this some years ago on my MGA, but was wondering if there are any > extra considerations for the MGB? > > Also, is it safe to forget to replace the belt that drives the air pump > (smog pump)? > > Simon _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 23 19:59:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8561040448 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:59:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437F1400FF for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:57:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (173-228-28-100.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [173.228.28.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id r5O1tcPM011828 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 18:55:39 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.36.0.130206 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 18:55:00 -0700 From: Max Heim To: MG List Thread-Topic: Moss headlamp relay kit Thread-Index: Ac5wfdXEhzIyrjR7b0SsRJd0UB/9KQ== Subject: [Mgs] Moss headlamp relay kit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I installed this kit today. It didn't seem to take too long. The total time I spent included a bunch of unrelated items that felt I had to deal with (the offside horn bracket was loose, the grill braces were not all secured with the same type of screw, and so forth). I mounted it on the front of the radiator bulkhead, just above the oil cooler hoses. This was just about as far from the headlight wiring junctions as the provided wiring allowed. I actually wanted it on the inside of the bulkhead (less conspicuous), but the runs were too short. I used an existing hole (one of a pair). The relay pack seemed secure with one screw and I didn't want to drill (too many unused holes already). >From this position the wiring runs could follow the existing harness. I actually ran them through the existing cable loops under the bonnet latch crosspiece, so it's all one bundle. In the other direction, I ran the relatively short ground wire to a coil bracket mounting screw (body ground), and the hot wire followed the (much modified) harness to the firewall (tucked into the existing bundle), then down to the big stud on the starter. I trimmed off about 3 or 4 feet of excess red wire -- I don't know where they thought I might go with it. OTOH I would have appreciated a longer ground wire so I could reach an engine ground. Flicking on the switch (engine off, broad daylight in the carport), the headlights seemed less yellow, at least. I'm eager to test it after dark, but that's kind of a long wait at this time of year. -- Max Heim '66 MGB GHN3L76149 If you're near Menlo Park, CA, it's the primer red one with chrome wires _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 23 20:01:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11D774043C for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:01:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C15400FF for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 20:01:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (173-228-28-100.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [173.228.28.100]) (authenticated bits=0) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id r5O1xgr3005145 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 18:59:44 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.36.0.130206 Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 18:59:29 -0700 From: Max Heim To: MG List Thread-Topic: [Mgs] 1971 MGB front pulley split, any advice on replacement? Thread-Index: Ac5wfnYb/05o3skMpkWfNx/eP4CkhA== Subject: Re: [Mgs] 1971 MGB front pulley split, any advice on replacement? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net With a harmonic balancer puller. You can probably rent/borrow one at O'Reilly's or Autozone. Hmm, you're in the bay area, aren't you? You could borrow mine, though to be honest I don't think I've tested it on the MG. I got it for my Plymouth. -- Max Heim '66 MGB GHN3L76149 If you're near Menlo Park, CA, it's the primer red one with chrome wires on 6/23/13 6:38 PM, Simon Matthews at simon.d.matthews@gmail.com wrote: > I was able to remove the radiator and eventually remove the bolt holding in > the front pulley. > > Next question: how to get the front pulley off the shaft? > > Simon > > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Simon Matthews > wrote: > >> The front pulley on my daughter's '71 MGB has split (outer turns >> independently of inner). >> >> Any advice on replacement? I have a compressor and impact wrench, so I >> should not have problems removing the bolt, once I can get to it. What size >> is the bolt? I need to make sure I have a suitable socket. >> >> I did this some years ago on my MGA, but was wondering if there are any >> extra considerations for the MGB? >> >> Also, is it safe to forget to replace the belt that drives the air pump >> (smog pump)? >> >> Simon _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 23 23:59:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB8E40415 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 23:59:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f42.google.com (mail-vb0-f42.google.com [209.85.212.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4D240395 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 23:58:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f42.google.com with SMTP id i3so7831146vbh.29 for ; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 22:57:08 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=iSuQdCQ/O9FpiltJyNlgGdLdEWpAJYouAglOWYrkwOs=; b=L7+5FHWHk185IUBf1TRGqSoai/cr87lnwFNDW5053MT36W7WE79mjZalmpt6tZEJj3 F9Nr+cDZaxj1FcyrD/OUiVcpCM4+clOkgHtVoMhkxUHBvAwlSHW1NSMU76CFgiTeeRaZ HpJlkaDjYOdDhagjHJGWKoJEomhIavmZJ5nD1KOVNW9ZscROZqeECKY8qX4FO823k5ET kbAFNDNLhXtzoiLeKQ3RcNVwIoxXVRj4aPkFQ6HhO4LDfTPgxlkotqYtYAMBRD+6/5IM VvCQu7eicrVuIi5N3k1dZjnhhzIUt1k15kxP6Vo+40HfHqVSbZ6gYQ6bksrfytpTQrAW 6jIA== nm7mr1811686veb.51.1372053428333; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 22:57:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.21.137 with HTTP; Sun, 23 Jun 2013 22:57:08 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 22:57:08 -0700 From: Simon Matthews To: Max Heim Cc: MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] 1971 MGB front pulley split, any advice on replacement? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I must have had one of these to replace the front pulley on my MGA, but I can't find it. Simon On Sun, Jun 23, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Max Heim wrote: > With a harmonic balancer puller. You can probably rent/borrow one at > O'Reilly's or Autozone. > > Hmm, you're in the bay area, aren't you? You could borrow mine, though to > be > honest I don't think I've tested it on the MG. I got it for my Plymouth. > > -- > > Max Heim > '66 MGB GHN3L76149 > If you're near Menlo Park, CA, > it's the primer red one with chrome wires > > > on 6/23/13 6:38 PM, Simon Matthews at simon.d.matthews@gmail.com wrote: > > > I was able to remove the radiator and eventually remove the bolt holding > in > > the front pulley. > > > > Next question: how to get the front pulley off the shaft? > > > > Simon > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Simon Matthews > > wrote: > > > >> The front pulley on my daughter's '71 MGB has split (outer turns > >> independently of inner). > >> > >> Any advice on replacement? I have a compressor and impact wrench, so I > >> should not have problems removing the bolt, once I can get to it. What > size > >> is the bolt? I need to make sure I have a suitable socket. > >> > >> I did this some years ago on my MGA, but was wondering if there are any > >> extra considerations for the MGB? > >> > >> Also, is it safe to forget to replace the belt that drives the air pump > >> (smog pump)? > >> > >> Simon > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/simon.d.matthews@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 01:25:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE2040425 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 01:25:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-5.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-5.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50B7240409 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 01:25:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-5-imp with bizsmtp id s7Pa1l00C4LtS42017PacJ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:23:34 +0100 a=mG7Yo7fS_WIA:10 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=UJEgsc2l3rIA:10 a=dsJu2ckuVfyKLimHhIQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: "Simon Matthews" , "MGS" References: Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:03:04 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] 1971 MGB front pulley split, any advice on replacement? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Should slide off the Woodruff key, maybe need a bit of 'encouragement'. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > Next question: how to get the front pulley off the shaft? _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 06:46:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9CE40425 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 06:46:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp2.ctinetworks.com (smtp2.ctinetworks.com [205.166.61.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56A284032C for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 06:46:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from home45dd83c8be (75.97.219.115.res-cmts.sth3.ptd.net [75.97.219.115]) (Authenticated sender: davewillner@pa.net) by smtp2.ctinetworks.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EB6311D207B; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:44:17 -0400 (EDT) From: "davewillner" To: "PaulHunt73" , References: <6841C73EB76B491F817CB55230A1948E@home45dd83c8be> <6476E19AE7AE41728AE65899E726047B@paul> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 08:45:32 -0400 Subject: Re: [Mgs] 1970 MGB turn signal switch replacement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I got it on after a lot of pulling and tugging. One thing that happened is now is that the buzzer for when the key is left in the ignition and the door is open, stays on when I open the door and the key is not in the ignition switch, not sure why? Any thoughts? Appreciate it Dave Willner Stroudsburg PA 59 TR3A 70 MGB 70 BSA 441 VS ----- Original Message ----- From: "PaulHunt73" To: "davewillner" ; Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [Mgs] 1970 MGB turn signal switch replacement > How many screws have you removed? On UK cars with two stalks and the > cowling halves top and bottom instead of right and left there are two > screws shrouded by the instrument binnacle. If not removed for a long > time the cowling can stick to the harness wrapping. > > PaulH. > > > ----- Original Message ----- >>I need to replace the turn signal switch and I'm having trouble removing >>the >> two piece steering column cowl on my 70 after removing (I think all of >> them) >> all the screws. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 07:49:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73F6B4032C for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 07:49:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-4.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-4.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248D04032C for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 07:49:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-4-imp with bizsmtp id sDnT1l00S4LtS4201DnTZo; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 14:47:27 +0100 a=ER-18PSln8QA:10 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=Dr_uh1-Z9nwA:10 a=2onYCjC5ZVW4Sj4c0TMA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: "davewillner" , References: <6841C73EB76B491F817CB55230A1948E@home45dd83c8be> <6476E19AE7AE41728AE65899E726047B@paul> <80B31698310A4798A78C30067539EA5B@home45dd83c8be> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 14:24:19 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] 1970 MGB turn signal switch replacement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net The buzzer will sound whenever there is an earth on the purple/pink wire from the ignition switch to the buzzer, which should only happen when the key is in the ignition, AND there is 12v on the purple/green from the second door switch to the buzzer, which should only happen when the door is open. It sounds like either the purple/pink is shorting to earth somewhere, or the ignition switch is failing to disconnect the earth from that wire when the key is out. Disconnect the wire from the ignition switch somehow, and see if that stops it. If not, the wire is earthing, if it does, then the switch is faulty. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- >... One thing that happened is now is that the buzzer for when the key is >left in the ignition and the door is open, stays on when I open the door >and the key is not in the ignition switch, not sure why? Any thoughts? _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 20:05:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A0AF4043F for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:05:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.mail.wowway.com (smtp.wow.synacor.com [64.8.70.55]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5802740066 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:05:03 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=h2iXxT9cPBYAUMbPaTmFYw==:117 a=h2iXxT9cPBYAUMbPaTmFYw==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=AhRLOILGsKkA:10 a=QP5IY3kgAAAA:8 a=l86zQV6K5tMA:10 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=K7WeqiNb_Z_1WX-K58EA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=TuEo9wTN_5K0SDb-6-oA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp01.wow.synacor.com smtp.mail=runner01@wowway.com; spf=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp01.wow.synacor.com: 96.27.166.67 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of wowway.com) Received: from [96.27.166.67] ([96.27.166.67:56598] helo=AcerPC) by smtp.mail.wowway.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 21/36-17225-F5AF8C15; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:03:11 -0400 From: "Ray Graham" To: Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:02:47 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac5xSBbCX7aqeZGUTtOj245WxCY6lw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Mgs] Oil Cooler Installation Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Guys: I have decided to install stainless steel oil cooler lines in my 66 MGB and probably the oil cooler unit. Any tricks? Suggestions? What size nut is on the cooler lines at the cooler? Thanks, Ray _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 21:10:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31C940523 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:10:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f175.google.com (mail-ob0-f175.google.com [209.85.214.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CF394044A for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:09:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f175.google.com with SMTP id xn12so11400391obc.20 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:08:03 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=SC9LtO6fyW3Qb6O5oaTnikoBEcPKi79l8Mt48Tz+x2E=; b=e0yJ0BM0D7YAat/wXWx1asE5GZVKJ6s0zOlQc9DR3fZM03zSBe/pmBeodpZW4mZ/Ss 9SuM73YgCzGn+iimXq1ddqF/QT1G12mHG2iK521jVGhT3rHxffKhOhKhYGAEa8I1zNnW uCHd3XImAQ/AD/eGPn8gvOgnxw4TWI54j++WdlIDW0Zyb3L7Obzb+MzmtAa58Ov8oFEL xI7DPE6bTCptkK7qdXBXT5lRvpgMnS+roh/qMRVuwmUJK2jDjp0Y2I2bw7ZVU+sQj9OS nL17m5umviwuyiTqEkNQzTIUSgJZhVydpet+vxDfjmk0jBNm1KzdKIIrUazsi8Ga3I+w HeoQ== r13mr12432986oet.71.1372129683415; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.60.17.232 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:08:03 -0700 (PDT) References: <003001ce7148$17118050$453480f0$@wowway.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:08:03 -0700 From: Richard Ewald To: Ray Graham Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Cooler Installation Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Two suggestions 1. SS lines are like files and will abrade anything they lay against. Given time and movement they will cut like a file. Make sure they don't touch anything and if touching is unavoidable, insulate them with a wrap of rubber, or nylon. I know of an off road racing team that wasn't paying attention and filed a hole right through the side of an oil filter. 2. Counter hold the fittings on the oil cooler with a wrench when loosening or tightening the hoses to the oil cooler. Otherwise you risk twisting the fitting right off the oil cooler. Yes, I have seen it done. Rick On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Ray Graham wrote: > Guys: > > I have decided to install stainless steel oil cooler lines in my 66 MGB and > probably the oil cooler unit. Any tricks? Suggestions? What size nut is > on the cooler lines at the cooler? > > > > Thanks, > > Ray > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/richard.ewald@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 25 01:38:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2823940550 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 01:38:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-6.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-6.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE8E740525 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 01:38:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-6-imp with bizsmtp id sXcT1l0014LtS4201XcTQ2; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 08:36:27 +0100 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=0cyZVCXggOoA:10 a=D_PyhKt4iHRLhj56dtkA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: "Ray Graham" References: <003001ce7148$17118050$453480f0$@wowway.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 08:15:59 +0100 Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Cooler Installation Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net You will have to see what nut sizes you have on both old and new as they can vary. I've just changed a clutch hose and the new was different to the old. Use the 'figure of eight' straps to tie the long run to an end of the shorter run, unsecured they can flap about and hit things that aren't obvious when it is just standing there. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- >> I have decided to install stainless steel oil cooler lines in my 66 MGB >> and >> probably the oil cooler unit. Any tricks? Suggestions? What size nut >> is >> on the cooler lines at the cooler? _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 25 03:32:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A806D4053E for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 03:32:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d06.mx.aol.com (omr-d06.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0766040446 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 03:32:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.2]) by omr-d06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6676F70004101 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 05:30:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.0.6] (c-50-163-114-241.hsd1.nh.comcast.net [50.163.114.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 2C01BE0000A8 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 05:30:31 -0400 (EDT) From: John Elwood Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 05:30:31 -0400 To: MG List x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1372152631; bh=gIxNIqTvFcZTyQKnWZwNgfeqgB+6dTUd4JEfp+ZeF4k=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=k3JR0Vq8DP24ATRuUcljtWuCQjQh+1BydpDDpOH/M/aUaA/bhyON6PCjHEHlqkZui Heas8z1lhFWGJVDzZVrU9zPI890/2Se7KSpVCquQQg/zL4xYiufWpPsc1po+yn7Uqg jjUYQ7coHSVFpKoMkvN3q7FzzSulISHAHhjSca+4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290251c96337392a Subject: [Mgs] Do I "need" a Dake arbor press? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I already have a floor model hydraulic shop press from harbor freight. My employer is getting rid of stuff and there is a Dake arbor press for lunch money. Is there anything I could use an arbor press for that I couldn't just use the hydraulic press? I'm not looking to just fill my barn with useless tools. The only purpose I could find by googling it to broach a key way in an aluminum pulley... Which I can't foresee doing ever. -John _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 25 03:43:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2774052A for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 03:43:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-6.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-6.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2C1D40510 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 03:43:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-6-imp with bizsmtp id sZhx1l0074LtS4201Zhx8K; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:41:57 +0100 a=OCVZ7QINoT8A:10 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=_R_bb7clVQUA:10 a=PLJ25dHAsHPBhf4vXfcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: "John Elwood" , "MG List" References: <204AC308-E4AF-49C3-A670-F521A05D1178@aol.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:41:53 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Do I "need" a Dake arbor press? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net If you have the space then no contest in my opinion, Hunt's Eighth Law: "If you haven't found a use for something yet you haven't kept it long enough." PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- >I already have a floor model hydraulic shop press from harbor freight. My > employer is getting rid of stuff and there is a Dake arbor press for lunch > money. Is there anything I could use an arbor press for that I couldn't > just > use the hydraulic press? I'm not looking to just fill my barn with > useless > tools. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 25 20:43:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14534051B for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 20:43:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.mail.wowway.com (smtp.wow.synacor.com [64.8.70.55]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21F540413 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 20:43:12 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=h2iXxT9cPBYAUMbPaTmFYw==:117 a=h2iXxT9cPBYAUMbPaTmFYw==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=AhRLOILGsKkA:10 a=QP5IY3kgAAAA:8 a=0cyZVCXggOoA:10 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=53hEf7pM5XmbfFIgf0cA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=zEoJXyrrGmEA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=Ov2DmU9WASG6jJgWGUoA:9 a=piz1ozFnpaKpufO1:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 Authentication-Results: smtp02.wow.synacor.com smtp.mail=runner01@wowway.com; spf=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.wow.synacor.com: 96.27.166.67 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of wowway.com) Received: from [96.27.166.67] ([96.27.166.67:57630] helo=AcerPC) by smtp.mail.wowway.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 67/28-05015-BC45AC15; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 22:41:15 -0400 From: "Ray Graham" To: "'Richard Ewald'" References: <003001ce7148$17118050$453480f0$@wowway.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 21:41:14 -0500 Thread-Index: AQEr69rejHYz4iEebfjpTd0R9TegHwF4JKaemoCTo8A= Content-Language: en-us Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Cooler Installation Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net "IF " I twisted the oil cooler line fittings and cause a leak.thus requiring the replacement of the oil cooler.what color is the oil cooler supposed to be? Thanks, Ray ' From: Richard Ewald [mailto:richard.ewald@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 10:08 PM To: Ray Graham Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Cooler Installation Two suggestions 1. SS lines are like files and will abrade anything they lay against. Given time and movement they will cut like a file. Make sure they don't touch anything and if touching is unavoidable, insulate them with a wrap of rubber, or nylon. I know of an off road racing team that wasn't paying attention and filed a hole right through the side of an oil filter. 2. Counter hold the fittings on the oil cooler with a wrench when loosening or tightening the hoses to the oil cooler. Otherwise you risk twisting the fitting right off the oil cooler. Yes, I have seen it done. Rick On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Ray Graham wrote: Guys: I have decided to install stainless steel oil cooler lines in my 66 MGB and probably the oil cooler unit. Any tricks? Suggestions? What size nut is on the cooler lines at the cooler? Thanks, Ray _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/richard.ewald@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 26 05:58:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCEB14275E for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 05:58:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DE70F40522 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 05:58:03 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1372247763; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=mxeHBtNMBoA/hQ67DfhxGFPpWyidvAX8cGCmWrmuew4CsQ226Ph+UOjB79pX9c0gY FtQWmP592WOH/09WAM4aDbEo0SaONQVVQ93MUWdy3gokc3j9Op8b2w8Yjeb4yFQiSL 5L6rAPNc3gsRt7Ik5OaDPylHINoSq9Z+YCbYa+o8= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.101]) by smtpout01.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABJ6XXXGARCFXA2 for (sender ); Wed, 26 Jun 2013 04:55:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [108.88.216.197] by webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:54:56 GMT From: "mgbob@juno.com" Full-Name: "mgbob@juno.com" Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:54:56 GMT To: runner01@wowway.com Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Cooler Installation Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Silver, of various shades, as painted by the various manufactures. As they quickly get road dust and bug juice on them, who is to say that any particular silver is the one? Bob ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Ray Graham" To: "'Richard Ewald'" Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Cooler Installation Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 21:41:14 -0500 "IF " I twisted the oil cooler line fittings and cause a leak.thus requiring the replacement of the oil cooler.what color is the oil cooler supposed to be? Thanks, Ray ' From: Richard Ewald [mailto:richard.ewald@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 10:08 PM To: Ray Graham Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Cooler Installation Two suggestions 1. SS lines are like files and will abrade anything they lay against. Given time and movement they will cut like a file. Make sure they don't touch anything and if touching is unavoidable, insulate them with a wrap of rubber, or nylon. I know of an off road racing team that wasn't paying attention and filed a hole right through the side of an oil filter. 2. Counter hold the fittings on the oil cooler with a wrench when loosening or tightening the hoses to the oil cooler. Otherwise you risk twisting the fitting right off the oil cooler. Yes, I have seen it done. Rick On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Ray Graham wrote: Guys: I have decided to install stainless steel oil cooler lines in my 66 MGB and probably the oil cooler unit. Any tricks? Suggestions? What size nut is on the cooler lines at the cooler? Thanks, Ray _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/richard.ewald@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbob@juno.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 26 18:04:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD3D40397 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 18:04:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from pacmmta53.windstream.net (pacmmta53.windstream.net [162.39.147.112]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55CCF4032A for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 18:03:48 -0600 (MDT) cv=asOxBwkBAZGV0T+WtrXzpfep39GF0kV392HEIHOPyDY= c=1 sm=0 a=nWZo5VSqEgYA:10 a=We2GSUcPNccA:10 a=fOpwdquTRaQA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=3TiGezua79puUvLZwPQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Sg7Bl+XaFEnm/ZoPh9B0XA==:117 Authentication-Results: pacmmta53 smtp.user=ccrobins@ktc.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [72.172.28.252] ([72.172.28.252:62825] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by pacmmta53 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39824M)) with ESMTPA id EF/68-08543-AE08BC15; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 20:01:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 19:01:38 -0500 From: Charley & Peggy Robinson Organization: Computer Helpers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: Mga List Subject: [Mgs] Parking/turn light Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net A month or so ago I ran into a overzealous, IMO, safety inspector who wanted to fail my '69 MGB because the parking lamp on the right front didn't work although the turn signal lamp did. When I told him it had been that way for years and didn't matter, he said, "If it's on there it has to work." So I told him to show me in the TX state regs. He couldn't, because it's not on his pass/fail check list, which I knew. So, he reluctantly issued the safety sticker. So, last week Peg 'n I were taking a MGB back-road ride when the upper radiator hose sprung a leak. Topped it back up and got home alright. I have spare radiator hoses in the car so I changed both of them the next day, including the heater hoses. So then I needed to replace the spare radiator hoses. Having in mind the hassle with the safety inspector, I figured to order the hoses and the hardware to repair the park/turn lamp fixture. Then the mail-order fun began! I've been chasing my tail on line trying to buy a park & turn backplate, with the bulb sockets & wires, for my '69 B. Moss & LBC don't list the backplate separately; nor does the catalog show the backplate as part of the whole assembly that they sell. VB shows the backplate separately but can't tell me if it is complete with the bulb sockets and wiring. RF, forget it. Anyone renewed this part of the car? Bought these parts and can tell me what came in the box? Ed? Kelvin? Halp!! CR _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 27 04:32:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9D3242756 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 04:32:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-6.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-6.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B6742748 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 04:32:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-6-imp with bizsmtp id tNW61l00F4LtS4201NW6Vk; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:30:06 +0100 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=0cyZVCXggOoA:10 a=6B6St_stG66r8iILZLoA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: "Ray Graham" References: <003001ce7148$17118050$453480f0$@wowway.com> <003601ce7216$a094db00$e1be9100$@wowway.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:05:56 +0100 Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Cooler Installation Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Natural alloy. ----- Original Message ----- > ...what color is the oil cooler supposed to > be? _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 27 05:04:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78B5442770 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 05:04:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-6.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-6.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6888C4274F for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 05:04:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-6-imp with bizsmtp id tP2K1l0074LtS4201P2KGB; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 12:02:19 +0100 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=BT0mhn-q_zIA:10 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=U_REK-Prt4YxRaeByVcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: , "Mga List" References: <51CB80E2.8080608@ktc.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:37:44 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Parking/turn light Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net My UK ones came complete with wires and all the bits necessary to make contact with the centre pins, even though all these plus the rear grommet/seal are removable. The sockets i.e. the parts that the body of the bulb contacts are crimped or pressed or whatever to be part of the backplate. The backplate comes complete with lenses, rim and internal seal, although these latter parts are available separately. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lucas-L677-Side-Indicator-Lamp-MGB-Roadster-Aston-Martin-Spitfire-BHA4966-/190853252636?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item2c6fbd861c This one even includes the body seal. I don't think much of a supplier that doesn't know something like this or wouldn't go and look. But then I suppose they would rather sit at their computer screen doing what you do if you order online. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > Anyone renewed this part of the car? Bought these parts and can tell me > what came in the box? _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 27 19:25:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09AC9403FB for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 19:25:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2588B40324 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 19:23:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tdAz1l0060b6N64A8dPh1Y; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 01:23:41 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2601:5:1dc0:15:fd3b:3307:b5a5:692] ([IPv6:2601:5:1dc0:15:fd3b:3307:b5a5:692]) by omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tdPg1l0074PklwG8PdPgek; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 01:23:41 +0000 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 19:23:31 -0600 From: Glenn Schnittke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130307 Thunderbird/17.0.4 To: mgs@autox.team.net References: s=q20121106; t=1372382621; bh=cR7q3p1TFXeC4hYpoodsmSBrIhXeGtdtLCBXRcqMJH0=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=UbtF2mUIJRLmfOt8EAVAqQ2DxvR5dlfRjmK973UA8uZEpKv/37R7+vqworGOZtnH4 rmeL5jzh0CNHd5fePwbKgB5LSqf1ZNnbq1M/XyUB/j/Zxy6LGHkF+J9sGOrtW9jlzP MbGv7JP/Dw3D4TNzSfS+rcOjAf+8vK/vJ2DsCTridOtk9gTse0Fxw6o5lKNfcvlfgE CTy9NFvTVx53IF/9c+4U/IufUxMMBBypZprzvNmgqlKh4ZHNEs8SV/HvL1x2KKySYH FDd93GQBmWhjcMkXpB0p2kCSYrrfBxRbUUm1/TXvDdxpaG3ZToDg+Y+FbrosJlTPFb cz7DKea9I2prg== Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 73, Issue 18 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net On 6/25/2013 12:00 PM, mgs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:02:47 -0500 > From: "Ray Graham" > To: > Subject: [Mgs] Oil Cooler Installation > Message-ID:<003001ce7148$17118050$453480f0$@wowway.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Guys: > > I have decided to install stainless steel oil cooler lines in my 66 MGB and > probably the oil cooler unit. Any tricks? Suggestions? What size nut is > on the cooler lines at the cooler? > > > > Thanks, > > Ray The most fun is going to be the the grommets in the radiator surround. If you plan on using the old ones they will be very hard and hard to get out and back in. I'd recommend going with new. And still it's a crashing bore. I've been most successful with lots of silicon lube and putting them on to the hose before snaking the hose through the surround and then using either a very blunt flathead screwdriver or preferably, if you have one, a cotter pin puller, you MAY be able to force the rubber through the sheet metal. Just getting those things seated is a two ale job. It's not quite as much fun as the rubber brick in the heater unit. IIR, the compression nut size is 7/8, but as mentioned you want to have a wrench on the cooler side of the fitting as well. Glenn _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 27 19:33:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046894041A for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 19:33:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.mail.wowway.com (smtp.wow.synacor.com [64.8.70.55]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A056740325 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 19:33:00 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=h2iXxT9cPBYAUMbPaTmFYw==:117 a=h2iXxT9cPBYAUMbPaTmFYw==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=AhRLOILGsKkA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=QP5IY3kgAAAA:8 a=0cyZVCXggOoA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=llpafStaQ4bRo8MyJd0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=GBYjNgTzydkA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp02.wow.synacor.com smtp.mail=runner01@wowway.com; spf=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.wow.synacor.com: 96.27.166.67 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of wowway.com) Received: from [96.27.166.67] ([96.27.166.67:58701] helo=AcerPC) by smtp.mail.wowway.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTP id 53/D4-05015-7C7ECC15; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 21:32:56 -0400 From: "Ray Graham" To: "'PaulHunt73'" References: <003001ce7148$17118050$453480f0$@wowway.com> <003601ce7216$a094db00$e1be9100$@wowway.com> <7949F42CEFAE40BF98EF67803584777A@paul> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 20:32:43 -0500 Thread-Index: AQEr69rejHYz4iEebfjpTd0R9TegHwF4JKaeAhxW31sBng9K0Zpl0qPA Content-Language: en-us Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Cooler Installation Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks all for the feedback. Ray Graham -----Original Message----- From: PaulHunt73 [mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com] Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 5:06 AM To: Ray Graham Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Cooler Installation Natural alloy. ----- Original Message ----- > ...what color is the oil cooler supposed to be? _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 28 01:34:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B633540398 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 01:34:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-5.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-5.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9ED40359 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 01:32:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-5-imp with bizsmtp id tjYM1l0044LtS4201jYMb1; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:32:21 +0100 a=Jz_LAvHuv2sA:10 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=OdxvFhdxr0MA:10 a=VoV4DbdMpnU3KM9z6FcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: References: <51CCE593.6080001@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:15:56 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 73, Issue 18 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Cutting them, easing them in with a blunt screwdriver, and sliding them round so the cut is at the bottom shouldn't be a problem - given the correct grommet! PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > The most fun is going to be the the grommets in the radiator surround. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 28 04:39:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56698403FA for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 04:39:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d01.mx.aol.com (omr-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.252.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B49A40325 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 04:37:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.65]) by omr-d01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 37351700000B8 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 06:37:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.0.0.6] (c-50-163-114-241.hsd1.nh.comcast.net [50.163.114.241]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 09515E000104 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 06:37:54 -0400 (EDT) References: <51CCE593.6080001@comcast.net> <857B3584E6FE4E318A019615E255EC61@paul> From: John Elwood Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 06:37:51 -0400 To: MG List x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1372415874; bh=6oVNKIUbLUM4pnaGXMRLLAl0MTvUjeuPLBUFE7Ua7JQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=SoTzuFAZB0LQIQoCNCWtPsYu8hoqQoRq2EdSbL4hBbq83h56LLa+PWq/iDfbJDxCe PU9LBOBrQ6seBL9n4lQoBfUKTZq7hIUtMlc18gRSdATLekDaZ+bhFEiMsQqoPQFWL4 3HrbunITpjwXDTDdLtRU0ELk5NW5kGonI1ANw9Q4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294151cd67813baa Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 73, Issue 18 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 28 08:44:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6597B403FB for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:44:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f174.google.com (mail-ve0-f174.google.com [209.85.128.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2759E403F3 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:38:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f174.google.com with SMTP id oz10so1887329veb.19 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 07:38:02 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to; bh=JWrnPo27A4n/IvsDaAdavlzeiucF1uFWtoWkPiJXUCU=; b=dxfQJ1DqT3KwRd8JRAbsZqw8thcgi8b0yn9ur9hjXmZ/eGhHrHpVbdMPssoBzcwx/8 JKJ0oGIUU2yFEFpftBWcOGukfu/sKVddM8jCauJdysEOgS69JCtOsPSoa2bumsQL7CKL 8x4AtZQh+LHZJuIub5uG/b2SBIwLCQpI+UsJ89E+cXg1xxCbPdP6M/r/WGymfp4wH9Rz FkwSIQx9Mel5YM50NTUZO1YaentM+UtVzop4DgfuVUC8UCaHJne/ua+gH6w/BAd9kaom 7xPOMj3g/l1vHeBQSwYaww551WYsb9iApQUdYfdbyXccrIUhpDFqSCjkYH0edsUn9ys7 gE2A== dq10mr5642654vcb.23.1372430282056; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 07:38:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.76] (108-218-54-124.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net. [108.218.54.124]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id eg5sm5447162vdc.9.2013.06.28.07.38.00 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 28 Jun 2013 07:38:01 -0700 (PDT) References: <51CCE593.6080001@comcast.net> From: Tuck Southworth Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:37:59 -0400 To: Glenn Schnittke Cc: "mgs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 73, Issue 18 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net The grommets are a pain to install. I've had better luck using liquid dish soap and putting the them in the surround first then using more soap to push the oil hoses through. Tuck Sent from my iPad On Jun 27, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Glenn Schnittke wrote: > On 6/25/2013 12:00 PM, mgs-request@autox.team.net wrote: >> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:02:47 -0500 >> From: "Ray Graham" >> To: >> Subject: [Mgs] Oil Cooler Installation >> Message-ID:<003001ce7148$17118050$453480f0$@wowway.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Guys: >> >> I have decided to install stainless steel oil cooler lines in my 66 MGB and >> probably the oil cooler unit. Any tricks? Suggestions? What size nut is >> on the cooler lines at the cooler? >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ray > > The most fun is going to be the the grommets in the radiator surround. If you plan on using the old ones they will be very hard and hard to get out and back in. I'd recommend going with new. And still it's a crashing bore. I've been most successful with lots of silicon lube and putting them on to the hose before snaking the hose through the surround and then using either a very blunt flathead screwdriver or preferably, if you have one, a cotter pin puller, you MAY be able to force the rubber through the sheet metal. Just getting those things seated is a two ale job. It's not quite as much fun as the rubber brick in the heater unit. > > IIR, the compression nut size is 7/8, but as mentioned you want to have a wrench on the cooler side of the fitting as well. > > Glenn > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/tuck.southworth@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 28 10:51:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060C9403FB for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:51:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nlpi176.prodigy.net (nlpi176.sbcis.sbc.com [207.115.36.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9278403F3 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:50:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from barney-gaylord.mgaguru.com (adsl-75-5-68-77.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net [75.5.68.77]) (authenticated bits=0) by nlpi176.prodigy.net (8.14.4 smptauth/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r5SGoDBk019511; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:50:14 -0500 Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:50:20 -0500 To: Tuck Southworth , Glenn Schnittke From: Barney Gaylord References: <51CCE593.6080001@comcast.net> <0C34A9D9-A2CC-4E4D-A941-8B23EB4FC6A9@gmail.com> Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 73, Issue 18 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net You can't put the grommet in the panel first, because the nut on end of oil cooler hose is larger and won't go through the grommet when in the panel. But it is easy when you know how. Put the grommet on the hose first (stretching the grommet to go over the nut). Then pass the nut and hose through the panel, bringing the grommet up to the hole. Wrap a string around the grommet in the groove 1-1/2 turns. Pass the string through the panel hole. Push grommet up against the panel, and pull on the string. As the string pulls through it will pull the lip of the grommet through the hole, and irt's done in a flash. Barney Gaylord 1958 MGA with an attitude http://MGAguru.com At 10:37 AM 6/28/2013 -0400, Tuck Southworth wrote: >.... I've had better luck using liquid dish soap and putting the >them in the surround first then using more soap to push the oil hoses through. >.... >On Jun 27, 2013, at 9:23 PM, Glenn Schnittke wrote: > > On 6/25/2013 12:00 PM, mgs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > >> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:02:47 -0500 > >> From: "Ray Graham" > >> To: > >> Subject: [Mgs] Oil Cooler Installation > >> Message-ID:<003001ce7148$17118050$453480f0$@wowway.com> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >>.... > >> I have decided to install stainless steel oil cooler lines in my > 66 MGB and > >> probably the oil cooler unit. Any tricks? Suggestions? What size nut is > >> on the cooler lines at the cooler? > >>.... > > > > The most fun is going to be the the grommets in the radiator > surround. .... I'd recommend going with new. .... I've been most > successful with lots of silicon lube and putting them on to the > hose before snaking the hose through the surround and then using > either a very blunt flathead screwdriver or preferably, if you have > one, a cotter pin >puller, you MAY be able to force the rubber through the sheet metal. Just >getting those things seated is a two ale job. .... > >.... _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 28 11:05:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC5A403FB for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:05:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m09.mx.aol.com (omr-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E825403F3 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:58:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.130]) by omr-m09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5AB217008C857 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:56:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.218.215.66] (mobile-198-228-195-179.mycingular.net [198.228.195.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da02.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 48FFBE0000C7 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:56:56 -0400 (EDT) References: <51CCE593.6080001@comcast.net> <0C34A9D9-A2CC-4E4D-A941-8B23EB4FC6A9@gmail.com> <201306281650.r5SGoDBk019511@nlpi176.prodigy.net> From: John Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:56:18 -0400 To: MG List x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1372438617; bh=hGGav1K4s5F0z35EbJ5plhZkYCwIdHsUDEmuplfGO0s=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=ZwPNWZ27Zbxj+2vGpy5KVHa7weQr1V0ZTiHkGMBbHurGbBr/nlLMEO14kVJhBeYIg UsHDtNZeCNRJsmM9cSJrqqNXrCfLDAJepgUUWLc3O6rRWO8wUpUA1agQefUext64Kq B909FSBkEmb6UTqG91pX+H4Zx/ux7wLzt6rmBjYY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338251cdc0573fbf Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 73, Issue 18 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 28 11:21:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CC73403F3 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:21:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from cpsmtpb-ews01.kpnxchange.com (cpsmtpb-ews01.kpnxchange.com [213.75.39.4]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC084009B for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:13:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cpsps-ews27.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.193]) by cpsmtpb-ews01.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:13:23 +0200 Received: from CPSMTPM-CMT101.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.17]) by cpsps-ews27.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:13:23 +0200 Received: from PolderPC ([77.171.11.159]) by CPSMTPM-CMT101.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6002.18264); Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:13:23 +0200 From: "Hans Duinhoven" To: "'PaulHunt73'" , References: <51CCE593.6080001@comcast.net> <857B3584E6FE4E318A019615E255EC61@paul> Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:13:28 +0200 Thread-Index: AQJ/fxXoGUPBWv8M5/9ke8jmHtpylwImFxs0AfaoiKGXyGEdgA== Content-Language: nl FILETIME=[CBB30420:01CE7422] Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 73, Issue 18 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Apply plenty of Vaseline around the grommets. They'll slide in much easier. Cutting @ first will make it easier. Worked for me. Cheers, Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens PaulHunt73 Verzonden: vrijdag 28 juni 2013 9:16 Aan: mgs@autox.team.net Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 73, Issue 18 Cutting them, easing them in with a blunt screwdriver, and sliding them round so the cut is at the bottom shouldn't be a problem - given the correct grommet! PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > The most fun is going to be the the grommets in the radiator surround. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/h.duinhoven@planet.nl _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 28 12:36:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB9C40407 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:36:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.rcn.com (smtp.rcn.com [69.168.97.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF6F40074 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:36:15 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=KvonDqueJGHIzwFqfYayOQ==:117 a=JcBjd7tT8SEA:10 a=1GtspROMyXkA:10 a=rgFOHuIoAAAA:8 a=yrpFIgZeHRUA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=Xhio1hzW2_-c9zXLo9cA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=qeOVnMb4xrqNWELyBk0A:9 a=5bU24wgzwJ1HHidF:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=allenhess@mgcarclub.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com header.from=allenhess@mgcarclub.com; sender-id=neutral Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.rcn.cmh.synacor.com: 64.121.239.224 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of mgcarclub.com) Received: from [64.121.239.224] ([64.121.239.224:53342] helo=[192.168.1.104]) by smtp.rcn.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTP id 56/CD-22462-D97DDC15; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 14:36:13 -0400 From: Allen Hess To: mgs@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 14:36:13 -0400 References: Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 73, Issue 18 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Smart -- just like a windshield. Allen On Jun 28, 2013, at 2:00 PM, mgs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > You can't put the grommet in the panel first, because the nut on end > of oil cooler hose is larger and won't go through the grommet when > in the panel. But it is easy when you know how. Put the grommet on > the hose first (stretching the grommet to go over the nut). Then > pass the nut and hose through the panel, bringing the grommet up to > the hole. Wrap a string around the grommet in the groove 1-1/2 > turns. Pass the string through the panel hole. Push grommet up > against the panel, and pull on the string. As the string pulls > through it will pull the lip of the grommet through the hole, and > irt's done in a flash. > > Barney Gaylord _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 29 18:00:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D684043F for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 18:00:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f52.google.com (mail-oa0-f52.google.com [209.85.219.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E084042D for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 17:59:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id g12so3551489oah.25 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:59:55 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4j3LejhF0De5aOD8HT6kwrSWl1G+O1GR+i0oaE8rNSI=; b=lKxTK/dXjwxS7Ez9xGh+KCQOHeRC5r6svY3xcS806qOntefypr6NObGpW2l4OYZLKc cf8TSBHubNgerHKHDsrAIaP4U2qe/Cn/1QrdEvkpIHnH2Lxu9WBluEUWi9cblK+L3tiJ nK+8EJq3lEyIkypIk502u2dqb3CVi3KM65h3Ce/5eIsJVeSGDXnhzSbEpyNnHIp8EmuZ wd4zWJmh50rnoWsUyHg4UAtI8sHUQo1ikUMrcCkj5XI3pooIuH75HRYLLfl9B1tfkYrP DFEl7QqnDDAJfS0mxio6ROYIH/WddKt9t7ObBMYa6DX/z8dRaQsl9uMmsxkynAIjIHUZ lZcw== y6mr8637230obm.79.1372550395740; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.13.40 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:59:55 -0700 From: Simon Matthews To: MGS Subject: [Mgs] Adding oil to steering rack while I have the radiator out Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Can I add oil to the steering rack via the cover (where the steering column connects into the rack) that is easy to access while I have the radiator out? Simon _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 29 18:09:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53FEC40551 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 18:09:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 99F274042D for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 18:06:01 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1372550759; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=Bh0I3/rfz7eVdipY8YdpThgAdouRblc7j2y5eDeYmrWqHc4+zU3OIAYNY+Xmo7ApV d+K4equgpEI6OkO3dJoL3FkoG2ZNzy9Gu9pyDJ381fNBbf/z+kDism5XeP0rZsr7JO /dY8MCRcgyJ4ZPA68bypx2hhzgcLH6/W5hvfk44I= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.102]) by smtpout02.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABJ687UYAXUAWCS for (sender ); Sat, 29 Jun 2013 17:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [108.88.216.197] by webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 00:04:50 GMT From: "mgbob@juno.com" Full-Name: "mgbob@juno.com" Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 00:04:50 GMT To: simon.d.matthews@gmail.com Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Adding oil to steering rack while I have the radiator out Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Yes. Clean it well, then lift off the cover plate, any shims, and pick out the spring and damper plunger. One third pint is the amount for first filling, according to the manual. Bob ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Simon Matthews To: MGS Subject: [Mgs] Adding oil to steering rack while I have the radiator out Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 16:59:55 -0700 Can I add oil to the steering rack via the cover (where the steering column connects into the rack) that is easy to access while I have the radiator out? Simon _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbob@juno.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 29 18:09:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B37D40E02 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 18:09:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5224F4042D for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 18:07:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] (173-228-28-172.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [173.228.28.172]) (authenticated bits=0) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id r5U07SbD025417 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 17:07:30 -0700 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.36.0.130206 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 17:07:10 -0700 From: Max Heim To: MG List Thread-Topic: [Mgs] Adding oil to steering rack while I have the radiator out Thread-Index: Ac51JcPTBR0DiehxAECABCsC3roK8A== Subject: Re: [Mgs] Adding oil to steering rack while I have the radiator out Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, but it's very slow. With the front wheels off the ground, you drip a little in, turn the wheel, drip some more, turn some more... You are basically lubing every tooth in the rack individually. However, at least you are lubing the rack. With the other method, injecting oil into the gaiters, there is no guarantee it willl ever wind up in the rack -- certainly not in the center of the rack. For all you know it may just slosh around in the bottom of the gaiter indefinitely. -- Max Heim '66 MGB GHN3L76149 If you're near Menlo Park, CA, it's the primer red one with chrome wires on 6/29/13 4:59 PM, Simon Matthews at simon.d.matthews@gmail.com wrote: > Can I add oil to the steering rack via the cover (where the steering column > connects into the rack) that is easy to access while I have the radiator > out? > > Simon _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 29 21:50:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5369640530 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 21:50:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A638440432 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 21:49:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Steve-PC.optonline.net (ool-457e690f.dyn.optonline.net [69.126.105.15]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MP6003FVTAW3XG0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for mgs@autox.team.net; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 23:49:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 23:48:33 -0400 From: Steven Trovato To: MG List References: Subject: Re: [Mgs] Adding oil to steering rack while I have the radiator out Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net On my Magnette and MGA, when I have the car on jack stands I can push on the tires and move the rack from full left to full right and back again with relative ease. When I do this, I can hear the fluid run from one side to the other. I am therefore quite certain that the oil is getting everywhere and not just sitting in the bottom of the gaiter. This tells me that there is enough oil in there and I have no reason to mess around with trying to add more. I think that after the initial fill, the oil should not go anywhere. If it does, something is leaking, with the gaiters being the prime suspects. -Steve Trovato strovato@optonline.net At 08:07 PM 6/29/2013, Max Heim wrote: >Yes, but it's very slow. With the front wheels off the ground, you drip a >little in, turn the wheel, drip some more, turn some more... You are >basically lubing every tooth in the rack individually. > >However, at least you are lubing the rack. With the other method, injecting >oil into the gaiters, there is no guarantee it willl ever wind up in the >rack -- certainly not in the center of the rack. For all you know it may >just slosh around in the bottom of the gaiter indefinitely. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 29 22:16:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C31640449 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 22:16:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mailbag.wi.net (mailbag.wi.net [209.225.111.206]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1097B4043F for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 22:16:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [209.225.111.205] (helo=wm.wi.net) by mailbag.wi.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ut93u-0000kn-00 for mgs@autox.team.net; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 23:16:30 -0500 Received: from 173.111.202.84 (SquirrelMail authenticated user dwoerpel) by wm.wi.net with HTTP; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 23:16:30 -0500 (CDT) References: <0MP6003FXTAW3XG0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 23:16:30 -0500 (CDT) From: dwoerpel@wi.net Cc: "MG List" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Adding oil to steering rack while I have the radiator out Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net As long as we're talking steering parts, anyone know if the present available rubber gaiters are from the usual suspects are long lasting? My 27 y.o. gaiters are starting to show signs of cracking. I know some rubber parts have been suspect in the past. BTW, I fill the rack through the damper openings and the grease(actually oil) fitting by removing the fitting. It's slow but it works. Thanks, Dave W. > On my Magnette and MGA, when I have the car on jack stands I can push > on the tires and move the rack from full left to full right and back > again with relative ease. When I do this, I can hear the fluid run > from one side to the other. I am therefore quite certain that the > oil is getting everywhere and not just sitting in the bottom of the > gaiter. This tells me that there is enough oil in there and I have > no reason to mess around with trying to add more. I think that after > the initial fill, the oil should not go anywhere. If it does, > something is leaking, with the gaiters being the prime suspects. > > -Steve Trovato > strovato@optonline.net _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 29 23:34:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC5940517 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 23:34:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3B240432 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 23:34:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Steve-PC.optonline.net (ool-457e690f.dyn.optonline.net [69.126.105.15]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPA id <0MP600F23Y5JLZO0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for mgs@autox.team.net; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 01:34:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 01:33:52 -0400 From: Steven Trovato To: dwoerpel@wi.net References: <0MP6003FXTAW3XG0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> <53895.173.111.202.84.1372565790.squirrel@wm.wi.net> Cc: MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] Adding oil to steering rack while I have the radiator out Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know what kind of car you have, but on this list I figure if it isn't specified, it's probably an MGB. If it is, I believe the gaiters are available from NAPA and other "mainstream" sources. If you have a TD, you can ignore this response. And don't expect your average counter guy to know what gaiters are. Just ask for steering rack boots. -Steve Trovato strovato@optonline.net At 12:16 AM 6/30/2013, dwoerpel@wi.net wrote: >As long as we're talking steering parts, anyone know if the present >available rubber gaiters are from the usual suspects are long >lasting? My 27 y.o. gaiters are starting to show signs of >cracking. I know some rubber parts have been suspect in the past. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 30 07:10:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB5840453 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 07:10:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mailbag.wi.net (mailbag.wi.net [209.225.111.206]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5877940432 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 07:09:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [209.225.111.205] (helo=wm.wi.net) by mailbag.wi.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UtHO3-0005Q2-An; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 08:09:51 -0500 Received: from 108.100.45.55 (SquirrelMail authenticated user dwoerpel) by wm.wi.net with HTTP; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 08:09:51 -0500 (CDT) References: <0MP6003FXTAW3XG0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> <53895.173.111.202.84.1372565790.squirrel@wm.wi.net> <0MP600F24Y5KLZO0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 08:09:51 -0500 (CDT) From: dwoerpel@wi.net To: "Steven Trovato" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.13 Cc: MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] Adding oil to steering rack while I have the radiator out Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Oops, my bad. 1959 MGA. Thanks, Dave W. > I don't know what kind of car you have, but on this list I figure if > it isn't specified, it's probably an MGB. If it is, I believe the > gaiters are available from NAPA and other "mainstream" sources. If > you have a TD, you can ignore this response. And don't expect your > average counter guy to know what gaiters are. Just ask for steering > rack boots. > > -Steve Trovato > strovato@optonline.net > > At 12:16 AM 6/30/2013, dwoerpel@wi.net wrote: >>As long as we're talking steering parts, anyone know if the present >>available rubber gaiters are from the usual suspects are long >>lasting? My 27 y.o. gaiters are starting to show signs of >>cracking. I know some rubber parts have been suspect in the past. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 30 07:25:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF3740556 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 07:25:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from pacmmta51.windstream.net (pacmmta51.windstream.net [162.39.147.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E3C240432 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 07:21:14 -0600 (MDT) cv=YyVGDYHcjyaboC8PMZJQDCOKL+k1Q4ktildSrd6759U= c=1 sm=0 a=WIJ4OnAGe2cA:10 a=a8xM98bCYcAA:10 a=We2GSUcPNccA:10 a=fOpwdquTRaQA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=xRfjoxBpAAAA:8 a=xNluQXaeZhv2PPBuljIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=bgAgzZxQv2QA:10 a=9Ek6ey7Cxm5AGMlKPcuP6w==:117 Authentication-Results: pacmmta51 smtp.user=ccrobins@ktc.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [75.91.227.244] ([75.91.227.244:49403] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by pacmmta51 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39824M)) with ESMTPA id 77/E7-05157-0C030D15; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 09:21:05 -0400 Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 08:21:03 -0500 From: Charley & Peggy Robinson Organization: Computer Helpers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: Steven Trovato References: <0MP6003FXTAW3XG0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Cc: MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] Adding oil to steering rack while I have the radiator out Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Yep; that's the additional job the gaiters do other than just holding the oil in. The gaiters pump the oil from side to side via one gaiter collapsing while the other is elongating as the wheels are turned from side to side. CR On 6/29/2013 10:48 PM, Steven Trovato wrote: > On my Magnette and MGA, when I have the car on jack stands I can push > on the tires and move the rack from full left to full right and back > again with relative ease. When I do this, I can hear the fluid run > from one side to the other. I am therefore quite certain that the oil > is getting everywhere and not just sitting in the bottom of the > gaiter. This tells me that there is enough oil in there and I have no > reason to mess around with trying to add more. I think that after the > initial fill, the oil should not go anywhere. If it does, something > is leaking, with the gaiters being the prime suspects. > > -Steve Trovato > strovato@optonline.net _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 30 16:33:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5EB840517 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 16:33:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F14414043E; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 16:25:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F9AA1419; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 16:25:24 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 16:25:24 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: MG List , MGT Subject: [Mgs] Team.Net update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Finally! Many years after the switch from majordomo to mailman, the web page http://www.team.net/tn-mail.html finally has current, useable information. Imagine that! It is just a start, though, there is SO much more to update on the site. But with record breaking heat here in Salt Lake City I'd rather be in my cool basement dungeon than out in the very warm garage, perhaps updating Team.Net will be happening at more than a glacial pace. mjb. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 30 18:50:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F047F403B9 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:50:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm7-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm7-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.209]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DC52403D8 for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 18:43:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.182] by nm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jul 2013 00:43:51 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.253] by tm18.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jul 2013 00:43:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1061.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jul 2013 00:43:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 99709 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Jul 2013 00:43:51 -0000 s=s1024; t=1372639431; bh=ocodLuexJ5yREYF43z+fQBiRgVWd8fcnmscasiyj44o=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=c0ZpAoFmRJPBOs30M74fQ8DS8S5PstNi/3xpDAWyrevsB3cqYdGe+5KB/UPVqtIrtVDyyqazh7mvm/DvGOPNBhqZRR0EIyylzRdHOUnxeAAQNTwTYK9M4fo9zEKAfln1BqZmuT6ARltZBHc63kSz8/hPlwJdxGAL4v88fH6rexA= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=wNM8cXVSQmGz/sBdCg3RFYPm4Q3wTMDec85KYmM+fSQPNyVxItUw04aSEPwJcEPfNzxvfLEUSHlaFu/88LrsFIwck0NdIixuqDn9m2kSnCFk11LlxKviHhT1uHLTNKYWRJ+QsKntpRcvqiW+TPKZR3u//Hql8c6xAO5i411KNeg=; Received: from [98.125.250.103] by web163902.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 17:43:50 PDT CgrCoMKgRnJvbTogTWFyayBKIEJyYWRha2lzIDxtYXJrQGJyYWRha2lzLmNvbT4KCgo.IEZpbmFsbHkhwqAgIE1hbnkgeWVhcnMgYWZ0ZXIgdGhlIHN3aXRjaCBmcm9tIG1ham9yZG9tbyB0byBtYWlsbWFuLCB0aGUgCj4gd2ViIHBhZ2UKPiAKPiBodHRwOi8vd3d3LnRlYW0ubmV0L3RuLW1haWwuaHRtbAo.IAo.IGZpbmFsbHkgaGFzIGN1cnJlbnQsIHVzZWFibGUgaW5mb3JtYXRpb24uwqAgSW1hZ2luZSB0aGF0IQoKCkkgZ290IGEgbWVzc2FnZSBhIGZldyB3ZWVrcyBhZ28gdGhhdCBteSBhY2NvdW50IHdhcyABMAEBAQE- References: <51D0B054.3060506@bradakis.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 17:43:50 -0700 (PDT) From: David Breneman To: Mark J Bradakis , MG List , MGT Subject: Re: [Mgs] Team.Net update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net From: Mark J Bradakis > Finally! Many years after the switch from majordomo to mailman, the > web page > > http://www.team.net/tn-mail.html > > finally has current, useable information. Imagine that! I got a message a few weeks ago that my account was being suspended because mail to me had been bouncing since April (although I was receiving messages the whole time). Ever since then, my messages to majordomo timed out, so I guess I know why that happened. And I can assume that since I received this message I'm not suspended. -? So it looks like you put in the better part of a month getting the mailing list up and going again. Wow. MANY THANKS for the tremendous effort!! _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net