From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 1 16:14:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8557403FA for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 16:14:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-queue04.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5AF340333 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 16:08:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com ([107.14.174.243]) by cdptpa-queue01.email.rr.com (InterMail vM.8.04.01.11 201-2343-100-164-20130125) with ESMTP id <20131101142914.GINZ20033.cdptpa-queue01.email.rr.com@cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com> for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 14:29:14 +0000 Received: from [68.200.28.244] ([68.200.28.244:53941] helo=[172.16.0.5]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 3C/66-15942-5A6B3725; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 14:11:49 +0000 From: "W. David Houser" Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 10:11:49 -0400 To: MGList List Subject: [Mgs] MG art Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Listers, Anyone have any resources for MG art, specifically the grills on a TD, MGA, MGB, and Midget? Our club is designing a logo for our GOF next year and we are looking for reference material to design something with the grills on these models. TIA, _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 1 18:02:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 390C940410 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 18:02:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm10-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC042403D4 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 17:48:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2013 23:46:22 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.199] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2013 23:46:22 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1057.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Nov 2013 23:46:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 78237 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Nov 2013 23:46:22 -0000 s=s1024; t=1383349582; bh=dt8OAFY/lmmJvBiyp5tgPMh14L/Z1x4875NgqIaf+H8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=xFWwd7loOiRhKFNGWm10XiSXnwTxffKBZmWneW2qIbd615ae9FEqT4//6341NblkLDDtnQqRnH3RcRvxvBvKF+Aw8F42cSzZVqkEzFp15RB+z+pDe3ybRW4hgrxScIlghRT+gm0rmlA6lrxjqeRTKxHpgXxj6RCvDGTIKICHBtM= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=PlhhFnf1tTNnzgNGhdBVQFMruVA96GNgbyRz2/naNEK1i0Qz09xCG6Obmcv5wLrMm6qTGB8FtfkL/Pe9cqST9FO1VKEyxAP10f0pO0VqP/K2g4uJGl0Oboyq/G9Z3y308Rfef+eNgr5BEmA2iyZV5UbAvfk4TVL8Q1NJ0jOkR+A=; yxll3oNTsxo2fnyuzbKk0KPyOmN5WuQ0vlFvLdZ.jDlU0KxnhTHnzXfaKvFO ucZsXmIZY6Df0S6YaIXTkTvrqFY0ouOmGnot1XWOAlDzDekG3WPcaeZ2Gn5G RON6aiKYBdl1vwzwkHtt7aJ7ljWQDdoKZQllcwOikxfbha0SHMB9h7.Id33S rxvoCwW1I1yyIF9.mTHO27XY4EfAe0MoxTJb_9PkJxUUNP2ts4T4_N4kFWEq T.aau9VTmq5TrJweGzC.7k4Rq6Uz9JTWpJpQ.T98BlWzsDD78ZF6Tl6cMW5S K2lOFRnScMOQiOGNrhCRVEwMQXT8BTkWwVaGe4JdGyjA2TFaFFrxeZS8Xw1b gXfLGsPqK_Y.k7rCkeV7DFvJwHsAednMlDdp.BdI_6_IRr996BYH4JNs9g.5 d1Eq9pG4RFL07EitCX8uULLkSZy7bWDiBLUtAtFv8XI2dCjg4QZsIpQ7M8eJ Ae.2tykBZWSS4BryDfU_ihID0rT1IB_0.GlFZpqcbrwIgf8wIBAmWvrXbGdu l05MDRC.E6jPNki3RP5_N9VBlMfvGDUeoehUutos6QU012tM4RKnhjQbb579 3aCep2SnIJWb_u61GRlAakiuIxArvYnW90brmsr.jJTntOdhUle8vxze58Ea zotoPAw-- Received: from [74.75.236.43] by web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 16:46:21 PDT R2VvcmdlIEhlcnNjaGVsbCBpbiBXZWJzdGVyLCBOWT8NCg0KaHR0cDovL3d3dy5tZ2V4cC5jb20vbWVtYmVyL0dlb3JnZStIZXJzY2hlbGwNCg0KQ2FybCBGcmVuY2gNCg0KLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0NCk9uIEZyaSwgMTEvMS8xMywgVy4gRGF2aWQgSG91c2VyIDxtZ3M0ZGF2ZUB0YW1wYWJheS5yci5jb20.IHdyb3RlOg0KDQogU3ViamVjdDogW01nc10gTUcgYXJ0DQogVG86ICJNR0xpc3QgTGlzdCIgPG1nc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldD4NCiBEYXRlOiBGcmkBMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 16:46:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Carl French To: MGList List , "W. David Houser" Subject: Re: [Mgs] MG art Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net George Herschell in Webster, NY? http://www.mgexp.com/member/George+Herschell Carl French -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 11/1/13, W. David Houser wrote: Subject: [Mgs] MG art To: "MGList List" Date: Friday, November 1, 2013, 10:11 AM Listers, Anyone have any resources for MG art, specifically the grills on a TD, MGA, MGB, and Midget? Our club is designing a logo for our GOF next year and we are looking for reference material to design something with the grills on these models. TIA, _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/leylandauto@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 1 18:17:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C319440411 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 18:17:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f173.google.com (mail-vc0-f173.google.com [209.85.220.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8AD1403D4; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 18:10:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id lh4so3359631vcb.18 for ; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 17:08:48 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tbTZ2UstaETqtUdmll0EsKzO/HpWa4gWu8la9wW+gQY=; b=UwtwBzya/Y27/nSxCZJM/6xFp02RXHFH2XsK1Ljxh8i/m0i8Ua845me1fu93mz/7gi 6i4kE3mnubnwVdp/bQr4FgjwJj411WGEtl3og/4Ai7u4glyiJwOA/oMBw3+xKSs7Wr1p gPcyy11zalUbnBcR3482rP19mD9nTTsHtlzmkpN22PEgS2FFGMJ11519qVbNVt25Dlje FvZZCujmKG7K6Yx1tHGdJn1ZiieqFACgua1ZkNuxgSZRKtLYmStYREPKPaclX2qlDT5A qcP9dCAAGUxfK1zfdn9OVDn14lUP0TuwjYF6RZm7hs5R2NlqfTGVZG+lqu9y7ZMIzHIQ 3CAg== ak8mr3581901ved.12.1383350928586; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 17:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.152.174 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 17:08:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 19:08:48 -0500 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mgs] TD dash assembly Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, Yesterday I cemented the upholstery on to the face of the TD's dash. Today I wrapped it around the edges, into the openings and cemented on the back. I then installed the chrome trim bands. Here's how it looked before starting assembly - well, except for the edge trim. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131101_162904.jpg And of course, I couldn't resist setting the big instruments in place for a photo-op. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131101_164926.jpg I decided to assemble the instrument panel next before working on the glove box hinges and door. Here's how it looks sitting on the workbench. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131101_175229e.jpg I have new lamp bezels, and lamps, but just didn't get around to digging them out of the parts box. Notice the dimmer knob. It is damaged and the replacement I bought from Moss doesn't fit. I think its time for some sculpting with J-B Weld. More on that later. I also spent a bunch of time working on the Volvo 1800ES. I replaced the struts on the rear glass and rebuilt the tail lights. And just for diversity, here how the right-rear tail light looks. http://www.aubard.us/1800ES/20131101_140219e.jpg -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 1 19:30:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F229140404 for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 19:30:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail959c35.nsolutionszone.com (mail959c35.nsolutionszone.com [209.235.152.149]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8554A403FA for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 19:28:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from EricJRussellPC (99-194-27-8.dyn.centurytel.net [99.194.27.8]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail959c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id rA21QVIs028756 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 01:26:34 GMT From: "Eric J Russell" To: Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 21:26:28 -0400 a=P2oOn6vrs4wA:10 a=S2wpYzp2RsyRkoRNwqcm1Q==:17 a=oNFtUEMmAAAA:8 a=xwPayol1AAAA:8 a=OuW9EhZHed7HMjn4DZYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=sYMBWDtRlugA:10 a=YniUka23yaEA:10 a=64sp_YwinBgA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=BD6qtttvuUfiCHQA:21 a=S2wpYzp2RsyRkoRNwqcm1Q==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Mgs] best use for a dead cat Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Been a while since we had a cat thread... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2154283/Cats-away-Artist-turns-dead-p et-flying-helicopter-killed-car.html#ixzz2jKJ5iSwv Eric Russell Mebane, NC http://home.mebtel.net/~ejrussell _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 1 23:12:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F68403FB for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 23:12:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C19D403EA for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 23:09:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8748EA1AAB for ; Fri, 1 Nov 2013 23:07:40 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 01 Nov 2013 23:07:40 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 To: MG List References: <5272A86F.9040108@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Rear axle pinion thrust washer? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net As a follow up, there is a driveline specialty shop a few dorrs down from Bailey's. They scrounged around and came up with a handful of shims in appropriate diameters and thicknesses. Got the diff set up with the contact patch in the sweet spot where it belongs, no need for drastic measures. Well, my fingers still have the faint aroma of gear oil that came from animals that died millions of years ago, but that can be fixed. mjb. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 2 01:42:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6751740439 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 01:42:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B42403EA for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 01:31:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.74]) by qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kXU21m0011c6gX85EXVenU; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 07:29:38 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.105] ([69.137.94.144]) by omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kXVe1m00936tVd93jXVeJo; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 07:29:38 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 02:29:28 -0500 From: Glenn Schnittke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: mgs@autox.team.net References: s=q20121106; t=1383377378; bh=DW6p5YQJAg828F4Abk4FgKZcFXyxGK4gFgM1whCxaXw=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=n0Cg+uE0zhCz4vVG1pCkwmOcBluA2yk7TBvcAKYnsBM4j/GzDiaKf6PGJQyHes5MR HPZqRSi1AaWDpZMz4cdFCSEfgxuJVLFwoi7J7PM+jlVT444ZlPJ1njK9Z8LUX1AJzz VlGlBHU1d88+0CllHR/SNBJMUEkUpQz14XMLaCzl+ODf+mBTYLBNDC2MTtqdHIDsTt XNOA4LQNjyiirEzTdAE2y7aQFEJ1H0qlvJuZEX+f7XMavXr5QODmI87ersxiOI9XN/ 2sAk4bTzrQw6PgNh5PEvTYxPiYwbkKe5D4c7s3v5vl26unVYA+Q8b2m8TorqSUE7T8 Ma3fqYhbi4BYA== Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 78, Issue 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Not really a thrust washer as described. It's a spacer. IIR, none of the pinion or diff cage spacers are available for any of the Salisbury diffs. There's a vague chance you might find some on ebay. I haven't found an alternative source other than getting lucky and I think some people are bred for that. If you go the fabrication route, make sure it's ground parallel to, like zero tolerance. Even dirt under it during installation can throw off the side spacing on the crown wheel. This wouldbe an excellent cottage industry for someone recently retired with machinery and interest. A lot of rear ends could be saved that would otherwise end up crushed. You can get new gears and new bearings, but if you can't set them up what good are they? Glenn On 11/1/2013 1:00 PM, mgs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > From: Mark J Bradakis > To: MG List > Subject: [Mgs] Rear axle pinion thrust washer? > Message-ID:<5272A86F.9040108@bradakis.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Being a Triumph sort of person, I'm not well versed in tracking down MGB > parts. > Moss Motors lists the > > > 267-900 THRUST WASHER, pinion .222" > > as N/A, in any of the thicknesses. > > Are there alternate sources for these items, or are we looking at custom > fabrication? > > Thanks, > > mjb. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 2 09:35:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4F740414 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 09:35:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from crabmail.rutgers.edu (crabmail1.rutgers.edu [165.230.111.217]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A556340402 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 09:27:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by crabmail.rutgers.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2184B1AE0069; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 11:26:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crabmail.rutgers.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (crabmail.rutgers.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MXPjop8YW3dU; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 11:26:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [165.230.109.156] (cmscipc31.rutgers.edu [165.230.109.156]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by crabmail.rutgers.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B16E91AE005B; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 11:26:03 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 11:26:07 -0400 From: Bill Saidel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 To: Eric J Russell , mgs@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Mgs] best use for a dead cat Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net On 11/1/2013 9:26 PM, Eric J Russell wrote: > Been a while since we had a cat thread... > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2154283/Cats-away-Artist-turns-dead-p > et-flying-helicopter-killed-car.html#ixzz2jKJ5iSwv > > Eric Russell > Mebane, NC > http://home.mebtel.net/~ejrussell > _______________________________________________ > Old News, Eric. For a more up-to-date animal discussion, try a flying ostrich http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS-4s0ilxhs. Now imagine an entire army of flying dead forest animals coming at you as you drive along a beautiful country road. Just imagine! Bill Saidel BMCSNJ _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 2 12:01:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573EB40432 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:01:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from cpsmtpb-ews04.kpnxchange.com (cpsmtpb-ews04.kpnxchange.com [213.75.39.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E3E4040A for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 11:55:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cpsps-ews17.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.183]) by cpsmtpb-ews04.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Sat, 2 Nov 2013 18:54:01 +0100 Received: from CPSMTPM-CMT103.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.19]) by cpsps-ews17.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Sat, 2 Nov 2013 18:54:01 +0100 Received: from PolderPC ([77.171.11.159]) by CPSMTPM-CMT103.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6002.18264); Sat, 2 Nov 2013 18:54:01 +0100 From: "Hans Duinhoven" To: "'Carl French'" , "'MGList List'" , "'W. David Houser'" References: <6926C587-2B51-4865-9282-F293F476C015@tampabay.rr.com> <1383349581.78003.YahooMailBasic@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 18:54:08 +0100 Thread-index: AQKBFyZIF3A9aA9b0VpqHCjrG70krZituooQ Content-Language: nl FILETIME=[831E0DA0:01CED7F4] Subject: Re: [Mgs] MG art Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I always liked the logo of this Dutch British car specialist. http://www.britishsportscars.nl/wie-zijn-wij.html Cheers, Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Carl French Verzonden: zaterdag 2 november 2013 0:46 Aan: MGList List; W. David Houser Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] MG art George Herschell in Webster, NY? http://www.mgexp.com/member/George+Herschell Carl French -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 11/1/13, W. David Houser wrote: Subject: [Mgs] MG art To: "MGList List" Date: Friday, November 1, 2013, 10:11 AM Listers, Anyone have any resources for MG art, specifically the grills on a TD, MGA, MGB, and Midget? Our club is designing a logo for our GOF next year and we are looking for reference material to design something with the grills on these models. TIA, _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/leylandauto@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/h.duinhoven@planet.nl --- Dit e-mailbericht bevat geen virussen en malware omdat avast! Antivirus actief is. http://www.avast.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 2 12:52:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E3D40423 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:52:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640B94040A for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 12:51:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ki6i1m0020mv7h05Fiq0YE; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:50:00 +0000 Received: from stargate ([98.250.57.52]) by omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id kiq01m00E17cZ1N3Xiq0Ur; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 18:50:00 +0000 From: "gordies garage" To: "W. David Houser" , "MGList List" References: <6926C587-2B51-4865-9282-F293F476C015@tampabay.rr.com> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 14:49:50 -0400 s=q20121106; t=1383418200; bh=+nvUiPIAwSxcaFxgkXcAoIngjUncCK12ArWhQZxDyTA=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WDJVqgHmfM3ozcu7rtPNLENxdzYogRGroW5JAkufZe7rIbNbS+MKWd2KtMQdxbxsC 3uApLPrpN7Cvi61W0z7W65fakrGp6L2UPs/oJocv0gztmMmFYFsSP6uRkYYswXY960 9ahGrpuaS1+tAWXFT1aDGxlRbwfaxgu9t/pndLIDQoXtb1kNn5SUtN9ucuDI/TGQk4 atGka5rwnvM0CxxKlHC9BWjFJ6iDAIWV+qB3O6TNM5tcY12INgx1KCcpzbW/U3Lr8A /n4CsW1kk4kI8jFIZLyC1QcmrR/mN7D1i5G6tchRm5hwX/5VOoJ4s3hfxdnXhhAuqY t43+z0EBNlbdw== Subject: Re: [Mgs] MG art Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net How about Steve Petrosky, www.driversroad.com... Gordie -------------------------------------------------- From: "W. David Houser" Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 10:11 AM To: "MGList List" Subject: [Mgs] MG art > Listers, > Anyone have any resources for MG art, specifically the grills on a TD, > MGA, > MGB, and Midget? > Our club is designing a logo for our GOF next year and we are looking for > reference material to design something with the grills on these models. > TIA, > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mg_garage@comcast.net _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 2 15:43:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D2940408 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:43:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2C140408 for ; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:43:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id klT91m0060mv7h053lhTgw; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 21:41:27 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.105] ([69.137.94.144]) by omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id klhT1m00336tVd93XlhT04; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 21:41:27 +0000 Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 16:41:09 -0500 From: Glenn Schnittke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: mgs@autox.team.net References: s=q20121106; t=1383428487; bh=5nRFltbs4eXBpxNnxFoV958ewHnf3OOMnAHqyZmztEU=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=Eav9wQimZ/jpNbiuS0JkggzPV3hKUE9sJIDCYppUUVDhQJ5LA+bX5g13b+zHkOpsF bYaQn1tehS2eusA8yLiVM/bjM7HUsnO5lBfvSTSjKhdkWjCvBgkng/BO8SJ/8wnGEO D57k/1GEcfFlNNKhpw6X4zpHUZEmx4Qb2F2TwoU/7/PDDgMydU4Kvqr8AibKfxg7Zd fyDOY6xK3ELEl9j2gItEUvu12rM3adAnmrqlueALNCFFTDsJiXGGBps/IqPN8uB05s zAfZJgnoB6gC5s/iHE15SSS1tTZcd/oMDAUV1cyxsqiDtFa+LK4Q6QG/s/BsR+SLI2 SdcFoElvooQlA== Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 77, Issue 24 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Norm, I get the digest and can't filter just your messages. Please clam the political talking points. Unless you want to pay for my bandwidth, of course. 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David Houser" , MGList List Subject: Re: [Mgs] MG art Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, I have a print of a painting by Kevin Walsh - he does all sorts of British car-related art - http://www.kevinwalshoriginals.com/index.html I didn't see the print I have on his website - it is called Aero Club and is a view of a couple of WWI-era planes with a TD in the foreground. Dan D '76B '65B Central NJ USA ________________________________ From: W. David Houser To: MGList List Sent: Friday, November 1, 2013 10:11 AM Subject: [Mgs] MG art Listers, Anyone have any resources for MG art, specifically the grills on a TD, MGA, MGB, and Midget? Our club is designing a logo for our GOF next year and we are looking for reference material to design something with the grills on these models. TIA, _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 4 11:37:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0517429A2 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:37:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.104]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B195640434 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 11:04:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from Datsun ([216.201.203.210]) by p3plsmtpa11-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id lW1a1m00U4Yt0nL01W1e3U; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:01:43 -0700 From: "Dave" To: Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 12:01:23 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] mg tf tail lights Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net hi. am I correct in thinking that the mg tf tail light bulbs are the same as for all the td models? thanks! _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 4 13:12:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A77BB40531 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 13:12:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gg0-f175.google.com (mail-gg0-f175.google.com [209.85.161.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BE27403F3 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 12:51:30 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-gg0-f175.google.com with SMTP id i1so2799939ggn.34 for ; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:49:32 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=wR5s9Ao80uEe0gqRafHxyppH541Rkx+N+f086z8Iwu0=; b=u4s4Mq3gpp7wi+rXMYGUXX3Z6stJtbmFN8nYjl7tTkVVPZd7m/lZA8eaNbNLDC/SAa AvK6fPxA3rqeB+EKMVhbTCrLhvpYVj7HwbW5gaRgMeyJ6rDx6vzaBBHxSYBOWO8NIWfX hL0BcbXHr+AzG2oFk13368Zy8EH0CgFItmrTC+CGmUTEx9Yd0NUDV7yOGm1vawsskvb5 Ka9tUYTx4Svi3pFuJi+tcBPNOOD/DQ29BUsMH0EpAFWf7bGKZn15N5Hjgp/Wsf8fiIS2 AAS/SRHtqijEUDcq5skgS8PYMXmq9sXG1Tw+1Tt/5pE3qB6TRyJ9VtA7o+jfWesI8aCJ O0Rw== m66mr3164033yhh.90.1383594190634; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:43:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.76] (108-218-54-124.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net. [108.218.54.124]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id v45sm29346726yha.2.2013.11.04.11.43.09 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:43:09 -0800 (PST) References: <8660FE30A7654F578DB3A3995C288A74@Datsun> From: Tuck Southworth Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 14:43:10 -0500 To: Dave Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Mgs] mg tf tail lights Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Dave The round TF tail light assemblies were the same as the TD starting in late 1952. Before that the TD tail lights were rectangular. Tuck Sent from my iPad > On Nov 4, 2013, at 1:01 PM, "Dave" wrote: > > hi. am I correct in thinking that the mg tf tail light bulbs are the same as > for all the td models? > > thanks! > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/tuck.southworth@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 4 13:43:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2524740439 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 13:43:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBFD54038B for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 13:42:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from [68.200.28.244] ([68.200.28.244:57804] helo=[172.16.0.5]) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 50/1C-19454-47508725; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 20:37:08 +0000 From: "W. David Houser" Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 15:37:05 -0500 References: <8660FE30A7654F578DB3A3995C288A74@Datsun> <6B5954BD-D458-4220-B514-8BCC22B2D6C5@gmail.com> To: Tuck Southworth Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Mgs] mg tf tail lights Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Listers, Believe Dave asked about the bulbs, in which case they are the same as the late TD because the assemblies changed in Oct. 52, I believe. They included directional bulbs, not just stop light. Cheers, Dave Houser On Nov 4, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Tuck Southworth wrote: > Dave > The round TF tail light assemblies were the same as the TD starting in late > 1952. Before that the TD tail lights were rectangular. > Tuck > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Nov 4, 2013, at 1:01 PM, "Dave" wrote: >> >> hi. am I correct in thinking that the mg tf tail light bulbs are the same > as >> for all the td models? >> >> thanks! >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/tuck.southworth@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgs4dave@tampabay.rr.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 4 14:56:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6939A40422 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 14:56:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yh0-f45.google.com (mail-yh0-f45.google.com [209.85.213.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC358403E0 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 14:52:58 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-yh0-f45.google.com with SMTP id i57so1268537yha.4 for ; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 13:50:50 -0800 (PST) h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=aIdmiCFEtFMw6oj3GSX3eZW90AN9NwIgWwk+SuMR/mM=; b=Erp0fkkLFOa2fGGRlbwkPnjsC8Unf+Im16XfJovzXR3A5owq5k3NCCLuCocPF7pL5E S4EvRrMpimm8L0Q4PNCK/7I9hZSlvmXcQnr5K8mWy3m4haPgU5AdD4ZKDCOv8pfFzOdR p/rz30HFHWg2WvLkNjdvaNpWpx3qRPoqJTYdviHGjR9zE7SgwPOX2Qy0Dc1JMLW10tWq AbS59IAbiv05htX16FF0/W37lkMZS6EZkQCcIuQSlRtdxdvQ0qoDXD86nj/D8JWiSAdR 41Z4GUKlf2Uz2/gHzdLMrUzvSGY8WdTn1Yz1awgyZA7V8MopCQH/U2TSKbR6O213RIoN SGdQ== e44mr15903420yha.16.1383601850044; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 13:50:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.73] (108-218-54-124.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net. [108.218.54.124]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c44sm30088849yho.20.2013.11.04.13.50.49 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 04 Nov 2013 13:50:49 -0800 (PST) From: Truxtun Southworth Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 16:50:48 -0500 References: <8660FE30A7654F578DB3A3995C288A74@Datsun> <6B5954BD-D458-4220-B514-8BCC22B2D6C5@gmail.com> <5970D300-4B32-403D-91C0-785D01560FAC@tampabay.rr.com> To: "W. David Houser" Cc: Mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] mg tf tail lights Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Yep.. saw my mistake as soon as I pushed send so I tossed out another note to simply ignore my earlier post. On Nov 4, 2013, at 3:37 PM, W. David Houser wrote: > Listers, > Believe Dave asked about the bulbs, in which case they are the same as the late TD because the assemblies changed in Oct. 52, I believe. They included directional bulbs, not just stop light. > Cheers, > Dave Houser > > > On Nov 4, 2013, at 2:43 PM, Tuck Southworth wrote: > >> Dave >> The round TF tail light assemblies were the same as the TD starting in late >> 1952. Before that the TD tail lights were rectangular. >> Tuck >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Nov 4, 2013, at 1:01 PM, "Dave" wrote: >>> >>> hi. am I correct in thinking that the mg tf tail light bulbs are the same >> as >>> for all the td models? >>> >>> thanks! >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Mgs@autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/tuck.southworth@gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgs4dave@tampabay.rr.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 4 17:00:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 762F640423 for ; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 17:00:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f177.google.com (mail-vc0-f177.google.com [209.85.220.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E58F403E0; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 16:38:05 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id ib11so4979714vcb.8 for ; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 15:35:55 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KjEzd9ozr0SRzR0Zf3OeTIhbw/gny6h6DCL8PC8VWvY=; b=noT7AmjUX2aMDt+ctMroPSiqNExgLja9XpjbhgOHVEYprG7PkIOTlPKzWb37pKGZqF D1KE8WCTOnkj5LSLDmbwmDUfy40XrB3oLKnG6qOGZ4i4td30HcCgwXJNLqMzsfszQytg O0VXZtH/MDGgwkLHvpJa/WT05sOcnrxDEShIdTFZynWi+ZEQjzOQiR3fp9zGbqhSHpin u+EQOjaM2dXKo12sdRVyal6wUB0BgAPhB2PBFR69C5YzyJYGLdk2gSwxsVd1N1HASWoJ Ity2+gtgUTy9j6ytkgPcCsd4qtUqlPs3RDQFxRS9T3d8dFKaNF9JJmoYI6KhfgXhOCM2 O2Sg== g2mr11497817vdi.14.1383607779964; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 15:29:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.152.174 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Nov 2013 15:29:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 17:29:39 -0600 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mgs] TD glove box Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Installing the glovebox door is a royal PITA! No, putting the screws in isn't an issue. The problem is that the original rexine, or whatever it was called, is about half as thick as the generic vinyl upholstery material that Moss includes with the interior kit. And that doesn't seem like much difference BUT, the glovebox opening has upholstery all around the opening, AND the door has upholstery on both sides. That's four thicknesses of double-thick vinyl. The fit is close already and the added thickness exceeds the limit. The door wouldn't close. I had to go back and trim away vinyl to make it fit. BUT, it can be done. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131104_170623e.jpg Best regards, my friends, Rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 5 08:30:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8952430B5 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 08:30:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail961c35.nsolutionszone.com (mail961c35.nsolutionszone.com [209.235.152.151]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35194304D for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 08:00:59 -0700 (MST) Received: from YOURF3E40984A8 (d3-223.rb4.clm.centurytel.net [69.29.90.223]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail961c35.nsolutionszone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id rA5Ex0sR001896 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 14:59:03 GMT From: "David F. Darby" To: References: Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 08:58:59 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac7aK2TOKzphV7SzRTKrhwPVlfGWbAADAIVA a=3WPTVEtZbjMA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=HpR9HcSZDkpwa0I+E+u6pQ==:17 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=6aDZS1hxDMtXNoH7f4EA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=dtfIXnFXYTQoT48K:21 a=-dg4RdsHFTM6d8F1:21 a=HpR9HcSZDkpwa0I+E+u6pQ==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Gearbox oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Rick, I would go with no. 2. Most dirt and particulates in there will drain out now and then a short run-in of a few hundred miles will further flush it out. In fact, I've just had an even better idea. Drain, change, drive the few hundred miles to my SW Missouri location, turn over keys and title and I'll take it from there. Would you prefer a bus or plane ticket home? ;-) Seriously, thanks again for posting your progress. You've done a terrific job and it's been a real inspiration. Cheers, David -----Original Message----- From: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Lindsay Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 7:15 AM To: mgs@autox.team.net; mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] Gearbox oil Hello Friends, I write this morning requesting advice. I'm not far from starting the TD for the first time. My concern is for the gearbox oil. Should I, 1. Change the oil now and call it 'good'? 2. Change the oil now then change again after running a bit? 3. Leave the old, clean-looking oil in place, for now? 4. Idle the box in neutral until warm, using the old oil to 'clean' the insides, then change? 5. Some other plan? I'm a gearbox novice. Advice appreciated.B -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 5 10:10:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF00430A1 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 10:10:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D3E3430A2 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 10:07:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from [68.200.28.244] ([68.200.28.244:49607] helo=[172.16.0.5]) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 69/9E-02506-B4529725; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 17:05:16 +0000 From: "W. David Houser" Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2013 12:05:15 -0500 References: <36417CAD923A4115A69AD348B9751039@YOURF3E40984A8> To: "David F. Darby" Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Gearbox oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Rick, I echo David's thoughts and would also suggest you put out a rebuild book with all the wonderful, never obtain anywhere else, photos you painstakingly posted for all of us who have followed your progress. Enjoy your ride! I'll take the first book! Cheers, Dave Houser On Nov 5, 2013, at 9:58 AM, David F. Darby wrote: > Hello Rick, > > I would go with no. 2. Most dirt and particulates in there will drain out > now and then a short run-in of a few hundred miles will further flush it > out. > > In fact, I've just had an even better idea. Drain, change, drive the few > hundred miles to my SW Missouri location, turn over keys and title and I'll > take it from there. Would you prefer a bus or plane ticket home? ;-) > > Seriously, thanks again for posting your progress. You've done a terrific > job and it's been a real inspiration. > > Cheers, > > David > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Rick Lindsay > Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2013 7:15 AM > To: mgs@autox.team.net; mg-t@autox.team.net > Subject: [Mgs] Gearbox oil > > Hello Friends, > > I write this morning requesting advice. > > I'm not far from starting the TD for the first time. My concern is for the > gearbox oil. Should I, > > 1. Change the oil now and call it 'good'? > > 2. Change the oil now then change again after running a bit? > > 3. Leave the old, clean-looking oil in place, for now? > > 4. Idle the box in neutral until warm, using the old oil to 'clean' the > insides, then change? > > 5. Some other plan? > > I'm a gearbox novice. Advice appreciated.B > > -rick > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgs4dave@tampabay.rr.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 5 16:04:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3443343120 for ; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 16:04:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f177.google.com (mail-ob0-f177.google.com [209.85.214.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD8443113; Tue, 5 Nov 2013 15:36:31 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ob0-f177.google.com with SMTP id vb8so9174049obc.22 for ; Tue, 05 Nov 2013 14:34:32 -0800 (PST) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=XeFLxck7uil7oKn35Z8rzKcMfHwX7BO006bVcu0kF2I=; b=iyQLtTRojUDZPTIs1jpQ+ozfHlYLZAHyeUCbvXXhE4APUd/g0XN+wyBDKEbpvIsJKa 3pHsYvEzgQtxlWl2AnhYqIaC5xqGAJSoWVlfUlrUJRg34DQoQUlWme1y9Bx/TkGxWHPv d7GgXzHjGfJIbP95pzJcij8ak7pMXUTwdK+er66Eauh8kT3RmGrZ4sthU9J/muaHn7OD pHbqrOJSUHhS1DiVO19Zy31D/pcWAVKW1y8veVAzkAEfYo9saayNjCs+knjEafpgZOhH HoQn592vfaN1gHguDfPqpCkHtDBCWqgd9/myxjwRt4iyognJ0AcrMLxEUpEAAwmNoGrC fGwA== Tue, 05 Nov 2013 14:34:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.68] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id it7sm40872900obb.11.2013.11.05.14.34.31 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Nov 2013 14:34:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2013 16:34:29 -0600 From: Rick Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] Gearbox oil Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks everyone, for the advice! -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 7 15:42:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B8BC43152 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2013 15:42:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from filter01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (filter01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net [199.224.80.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2872442F68 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2013 15:37:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by filter01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B96CF27318E for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2013 22:16:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay04.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net ([199.224.80.247]) by localhost (filter01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net [199.224.80.228]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id vKdDDMS64DM5 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2013 22:16:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from valuedea617bbe (plns-64-111-131-150-pppoe.dsl.plns.epix.net [64.111.131.150]) by relay04.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 35EB62F80B0 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2013 22:16:48 +0000 (UTC) From: "Carr&Edwards" To: "MG list" Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 17:16:45 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] MGA 5-speed? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone make a 5-speed conversion kit [not the Moss Motors one] for the MGA (like the old "Smitty's 5-Speed" supply-your-own-gearbox kit made for the Big Healeys)? Sarah Carr _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 7 16:16:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABC5E43175 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2013 16:16:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f45.google.com (mail-pb0-f45.google.com [209.85.160.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E8F43044 for ; Thu, 7 Nov 2013 16:12:48 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f45.google.com with SMTP id ma3so1292553pbc.32 for ; Thu, 07 Nov 2013 15:10:41 -0800 (PST) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Y55/I3XY17nhBRdiKt5W0Jtbu9HFC8Mo4gcYEeb9uoY=; b=cxFyyfCTBY2aN6ECXsvNAThOQx4i64FCHt1iQ0hYj8tUBCqqOp9Gp2hJm0TNH4eQaL coE73x357s+PKsLpdmE5HZyRBAPfB6RAtRNLVPLTplf97PURLimVko11KnW9hidJl6br Fx/Pr9SJT0OHphUvZtt7GdxNZMLgQ/eSe9AXGXk1z/xl1E1I7mqfPQ3sDwmnOHATHPXn a6roB3V7PHTmC9/f2w/9lN3tJq2udKj5fOKzCz8D2PixrdeHxd5OahvhSADJuf7aQngr Sw0N5YPchDZTu3WbgyhuBPGnHUohiR8Jl6mUBLTJSF5hbfLUJPSVR81qBGNBbqTyV9M8 ABvQ== mi10mr11987327pab.141.1383865840940; Thu, 07 Nov 2013 15:10:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.36.101 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Nov 2013 15:10:40 -0800 (PST) References: <54B350B6F2D540A0A071B7DFBBA5300A@valuedea617bbe> Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2013 16:10:40 -0700 From: "jello@cableone.net" To: "Carr&Edwards" Cc: MG list Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGA 5-speed? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Search the web a bit. There were people making conversions from Datsun transmissions out of their 2wd trucks and Z-cars and putting them in MGB's. I think they may have made conversions for MGA's as well. Phil On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Carr&Edwards wrote: > Does anyone make a 5-speed conversion kit [not the Moss Motors one] for the > MGA (like the old "Smitty's 5-Speed" supply-your-own-gearbox kit made for > the Big Healeys)? > > Sarah Carr > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/jello@cableone.net _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 11 10:14:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE081434DE for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 10:14:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f50.google.com (mail-vb0-f50.google.com [209.85.212.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ECF74308A; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 10:12:41 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id x11so663398vbb.9 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 09:11:52 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OEFINDhrWwm5cFBj5wSdGaKePMspuzp6BplE5WvWmWs=; b=LdDpPwD+ZfIBbahgui7EFVx3CPlz4aHar7b7IpxXYVHUGzEYkT7JEyLjCWyG5V5WZd gAI1UEJ/vR1Vuymq+4ZoJ0OeKe2/YJbfNv5IN6/J4ZCnnU1fu+gx2FInJRqonHwyXEhz ao4qY2yg0iyIVW5DsNXDb3/O5VL26D+MT5fkLySVL+d81UAVeuGrjCOIMkFyfV6c1hqV flHVlI64Hy6RWAwVBjgPf8KTLHD4P6QF9cipFJW9q7DW26oULnZ/7HASRj0nVPy+ZUkV +c5ksGPlkLqw6temDxbe4vi9D1+lztKj1XnLJW3fCnI13/nL4yu4piirPnBWyyvBqV96 2FLQ== eh3mr2077785vdb.29.1384189912264; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 09:11:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.59.7.195 with HTTP; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 09:11:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 11:11:52 -0600 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mg-t@autox.team.net" , "mgs@autox.team.net List" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mgs] Wing paint Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Taking the TD's wings for paint today. The tub id Autumn Red. The wings, running boards, and valances will be black - soon. Now that the car is running, I'm excited to driving! -rick. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 11 17:14:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D7443641 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 17:14:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yh0-f53.google.com (mail-yh0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A975435CD; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 17:14:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-yh0-f53.google.com with SMTP id z20so164936yhz.12 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 16:14:15 -0800 (PST) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=ZXTR2qxlZl9OzvZWXVMf42KiIO9QJQhOsaw+n4M23z4=; b=EpADC4filSqHuLyi8v+jIBXZMy3hl2ofwHymYtPvpUShz8p+HO90NNwZ7htIZWh5fl es4R7TJplDwwKYHGIzJxX3xRsj69z/JvQFh81KP50oH0O11ak9T1sMokJqjGG+eH684C PN5QkzQiwucuYMj+wi7TF072CCKYxPpsitL12mZNcFTSBR7zW6KGIjD86J48Dtdk1JkL EC36Dkiy0S1agUi88bhvd/dwjxllTZhLT9uQ3HR332nfhjqFsyIDN6ah7j2YY0Z3s4Rh Bk0yDloxqm7TMUcBP4TfDwxASkLpEyP0AHH2tComU/PgQj7u5SMGQoKXD0gcvMlASXWU 8O7w== y36mr3705028yhj.75.1384215255614; Mon, 11 Nov 2013 16:14:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.68] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id s21sm43288424yhk.9.2013.11.11.16.14.14 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Nov 2013 16:14:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2013 18:14:13 -0600 From: Rick Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net, rui.gigante@gmail.com Subject: [Mgs] Wings and things Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, Today I took my '53 TD's wings, running boards and aprons (front and rear), to the painter. They will be stripped, surface rust ground away, sealed with an acid etch primer (all sides), then a leveling primer. The top coats will be DuPont single stage urethane in gloss black. Just to share, the all-in cost is $1060.00, with half up front, and an under 10 days turnaround. -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 12 14:05:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C956403EF for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 14:05:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gg0-f181.google.com (mail-gg0-f181.google.com [209.85.161.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A70840357 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 14:05:37 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-gg0-f181.google.com with SMTP id h1so691882gga.12 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:05:08 -0800 (PST) h=from:content-type:subject:message-id:date:to:mime-version; bh=BfzSkjDf99i3BRZTc/hc/QVTkbW+JVwJgDhQcqvKAdU=; b=OeQo9SlYxzn1S2rFEo9xvZm2TjwEDYDu0UXQ4vpi3RAOCt9WIl7iMDuKYwY142YkkL Pgmf6RiNKKrEe+jJz4cW0BMfIKEWMHQluu05Ep0Gg2c49PmE3WXd/cu9fiYbmE+fC2lq Jm1r2G2pqg9ikBU5SdTVCzMKDj7MtFCyf7PoYI5Yj5YEbPBM/jmy9vG6sKmzlVVGU/3y PR0CTtEWKku0ckXhTsuohhBoxDikBhUhfaqLUGEQuo5NPsQjPik9YfRpwjMZoWOdNQI9 QS8hCoNb2UUomKoQQB9uIpO23lhLrrToMN79YNFD8ak8yi88tOZrs8LMLVSVWpwTHNtD mvcQ== p10mr2847181yhp.111.1384290306607; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:05:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.73] (108-218-54-124.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net. [108.218.54.124]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id s20sm50995427yhi.0.2013.11.12.13.05.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Nov 2013 13:05:05 -0800 (PST) From: Truxtun Southworth Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 16:05:02 -0500 To: "" Subject: [Mgs] Jean Kimber Cook passes away Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net all, I read this today on Facebook, "We were saddened to learn that Jean Kimber Cook, daughter of Cecil Kimber, passed away this morning. The funeral is to be arranged as a private family only service. It is early days yet to know if there will be a memorial service. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 12 17:17:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831F240396 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 17:17:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C45240325 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 17:06:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from [68.200.28.244] ([68.200.28.244:61233] helo=[172.16.0.5]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 0A/2A-27821-A62C2825; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 00:06:03 +0000 From: "W. David Houser" Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 19:06:02 -0500 References: <972A3026-4197-47BB-9B2A-68D99B2CE457@gmail.com> To: Truxtun Southworth Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Mgs] Jean Kimber Cook passes away Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Tuck, Sad news about a spirited, spunky lady we were fortunate to have met several times at T-Register gatherings. Her favorite was..."M.G. stands for M.G.! Dave Houser On Nov 12, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Truxtun Southworth wrote: > all, > I read this today on Facebook, > > "We were saddened to learn that Jean Kimber Cook, daughter of Cecil Kimber, > passed away this morning. > The funeral is to be arranged as a private family only service. > It is early days yet to know if there will be a memorial service. > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgs4dave@tampabay.rr.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 12 18:35:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34AEE403F1 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:35:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yh0-f53.google.com (mail-yh0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFBCA40325 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 18:35:16 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-yh0-f53.google.com with SMTP id z20so1001545yhz.26 for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 17:34:46 -0800 (PST) h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=PQ9YVPSDeJNd8iff67raRjnrlmGaj8e3iiCnoGXCDBE=; b=QH4Uuzi2H5F0WS+QPcXHyNbg5r7Cv1lFcHYkTAuXlw5yV4WJZHFIRsGRKPVa7rR6dE w9qX9uhFWUJWM0f8cMsqA7dcBxlTzOOWbCHWx/yHLubnHgI2QWjQvM6bJeiyW+IIgxhJ nCh0tFCpTUSNEOavk8dKX8gwvmxK4WBxP+dmQgU1roJeupdABWWMvjAWZyONW16qoRuV SdVMXxqaLNyXuu8xndheTyhk2vxVVPdKk+FL8EY8EFRTddQ0LIYFGI9yL2kHN8/vn9oh mEEoHYf6H4ap2V8ESyjvXdJBOP4PFwQ4mCWami8Dc4q3d3nNOZk91swGc2pVvBs6dr1G BFsw== a61mr19611352yhd.52.1384306486188; Tue, 12 Nov 2013 17:34:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.73] (108-218-54-124.lightspeed.dybhfl.sbcglobal.net. [108.218.54.124]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d26sm52850033yhj.25.2013.11.12.17.34.42 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 12 Nov 2013 17:34:45 -0800 (PST) From: Truxtun Southworth Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2013 20:34:36 -0500 References: <972A3026-4197-47BB-9B2A-68D99B2CE457@gmail.com> <426E81B1-FF08-4B05-9E41-5750A00987BB@tampabay.rr.com> To: "W. David Houser" Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Mgs] Jean Kimber Cook passes away Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net All, If interested, there is a wonderful article written by Jean in the NE MGT Register publication, The Kimber Centenary Book about life growing up in the Kimber household. Its so important for this list serve to share everyone combined MG knowledge but its equally important to know where we came from. Tuck On Nov 12, 2013, at 7:06 PM, W. David Houser wrote: > Thanks Tuck, > Sad news about a spirited, spunky lady we were fortunate to have met several times at T-Register gatherings. Her favorite was..."M.G. stands for M.G.! > Dave Houser > > On Nov 12, 2013, at 4:05 PM, Truxtun Southworth wrote: > >> all, >> I read this today on Facebook, >> >> "We were saddened to learn that Jean Kimber Cook, daughter of Cecil Kimber, >> passed away this morning. >> The funeral is to be arranged as a private family only service. >> It is early days yet to know if there will be a memorial service. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgs4dave@tampabay.rr.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 13 06:16:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C8A40411 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 06:16:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f54.google.com (mail-oa0-f54.google.com [209.85.219.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 891B6403E3; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 06:14:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-oa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id o6so400733oag.27 for ; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 05:14:06 -0800 (PST) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=SXUYugMubqQiBMJLOTEAWljCXMWXLnfj0vK/FWUH4rA=; b=COgAhjYjbE1MXQsWTTm5fr6v8CYBAWRKkxhTEi3x8xiq0jDE2vLOw6jMCvMWxtpH+S tfkY8E2tEdUKr363u5jSl3HlYRGjNNwsqdukgYmQdX+M4t/ozhUk0B4RRALMp4SWeqiF xDpYC5HRWx4n85UK6B/kl4bJmchl0w7ySYpBpker1VEd9sFESsKvoKcYwG16ofUZ8HBi mvy2wxW/HdEYspwbDm/vTGSSE7n3gyZOPyYOPJgLCp6oaYax9qvm5jK3VOXbqJxTWdhD tf786OwD7qNt19GhpEAd85yPKC2BY6MOBVq53ihrWESSf2kI9JQeydfTqouVQb2weT27 ej6g== g10mr36295282obv.21.1384348446519; Wed, 13 Nov 2013 05:14:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.68] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id b5sm39967206obj.8.2013.11.13.05.14.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 13 Nov 2013 05:14:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 07:14:04 -0600 From: Rick Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] TD build Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, All engine work/tuning on my TD is on hold until my distributor gets rebuilt. Timing jumps around as much as +/- 8-10 degrees! The shaft 'feels' okay but the advance mechanism is really worn and loose. I'll do a compression test but done on a cold engine is less than ideal. I'll report the numbers here.B As I reported earlier, the wings, running boards and aprons are at the painter. Expected turn-around is about 7-10 days. Cost is quite reasonable.B I believe it time to pull out the old seats and prepare them for new upholstery. B It will be a refreshing change.B -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 14 13:59:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 888D340433 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 13:59:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f52.google.com (mail-vb0-f52.google.com [209.85.212.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1072403F8; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 13:50:13 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vb0-f52.google.com with SMTP id f12so2120754vbg.39 for ; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:49:34 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WxtE4IDeor+kppMPrEwlyjBkYEFRHc8nXE8Smcr7gYw=; b=O5Mwj+Yk/mDHB8shNZS8yz76l4sS4O9V3DRlrVxWkmeTvBdBWc32LHq0JKw/EW6lch 3NHZSk7R5DZ3xsUl6+bO5uhTJrZ32p5MdZKETBH99V/vp0rzA+MthKp3cqC2TsV9m7L/ 1fJZYWAoUWaSLXeUmB0UP8j+YsZ/AueF2MnSGRiWsyZ82WjYu40qWymW6zHtClot2hXw aRgCHYSBm+Em/tQ9RxSoqYwT2JtSz+WJ9oWea+Rj2N4i2uxO1BCbN/M7hgekHkTL/mOv H6Gv4ClKBsrYXBLlOHBH5B+iEy0RmnjuJgCkjJ8UudUhDe48XumrZWVudDwLFHEFxlC9 04pQ== gu10mr81215vec.84.1384462174125; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:49:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.59.7.195 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Nov 2013 12:49:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 14:49:33 -0600 From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , Rui Gigante Subject: [Mgs] Floor boards Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, Today I shifted gears, so to speak. I'm sending my TD's distributor off for repairs and recalibration. Engine tuning is on hold. Today, I retrieved the new floorboards from storage (boot of my honkin-big Silver Shadow) and put a coat of urethane on them. The boards, from Moss, are made from pretty pine plywood. I don't know anything about the product, other than its appearance, so I have to assume that it needs waterproofing. Here's how the boards look as I began painting. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131114_132118.jpg Its about 50 degrees F here today so paint dries slowly - even fast-dry urethane! Still, it was fast enough to finish the job, on both sides. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131114_140830.jpg The edges have also been sealed. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131114_140841.jpg I'm going to stop at one coat because I don't really expect this car to see rain. The metal insert at the driver's feet, is still grimy. Its one of those parts that I didn't clean upon removal, so I have to do so now. Tomorrow I will trial-fit the floorboards. The passenger side is ready to go in. The driver side 'may' be ready too, but I still need to bleed the brakes. I don't know if that's easier with the driver-side floorboard out. -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 15 23:18:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C016142A55 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 23:18:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f169.google.com (mail-ve0-f169.google.com [209.85.128.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4343142901 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 23:17:43 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ve0-f169.google.com with SMTP id pa12so3699645veb.0 for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 22:16:57 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Di/KDhwWCOwD9yxKlVj4BdWCvKnw3p8PhM4RV5FS594=; b=SODOYuf6ahhJKo+ot9N/zIw1IModDrt+jvzEPUnBFiDX1xzqM+B6vGe9vdlWa4rvnf MYBFyjo1nwZ6b4Zzcmw7peEyydfAjpxhkGvEvAGdPPPb9NIGilt51aehqDE0jDkA2UTK DV2ncwyS47E92K/t8pacaDJeuN8hv+q6DrdkLcjoEODWVmM5EZENDRw2aMSXmbReTaKu RjAcwgylCoOQw+U0ItUEXggp1aKbX2+CrAR9MGG04pEbqkniDoiA3pmEfgjLGzFZ7EDz Ip27oPxreyjdSPAMzMYTSjbs8Fswyxu/+9JZX3at8O8OhAKadK+NgoWyK8lwUc0eFtE4 wFJw== xc10mr72073vdb.91.1384582616926; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 22:16:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.181.230 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Nov 2013 22:16:56 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 22:16:56 -0800 From: Simon Matthews To: Richard Lindsay , MGS Subject: Re: [Mgs] Floor boards Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Why not use an epoxy coating on the floorboards? Simon On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Richard Lindsay wrote: > Hi Friends, > > Today I shifted gears, so to speak. I'm sending my TD's distributor > off for repairs and recalibration. Engine tuning is on hold. > > Today, I retrieved the new floorboards from storage (boot of my > honkin-big Silver Shadow) and put a coat of urethane on them. The > boards, from Moss, are made from pretty pine plywood. I don't know > anything about the product, other than its appearance, so I have to > assume that it needs waterproofing. Here's how the boards look as I > began painting. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131114_132118.jpg > > Its about 50 degrees F here today so paint dries slowly - even > fast-dry urethane! Still, it was fast enough to finish the job, on > both sides. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131114_140830.jpg > > The edges have also been sealed. > > http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131114_140841.jpg > > I'm going to stop at one coat because I don't really expect this car > to see rain. The metal insert at the driver's feet, is still grimy. > Its one of those parts that I didn't clean upon removal, so I have to > do so now. Tomorrow I will trial-fit the floorboards. The passenger > side is ready to go in. The driver side 'may' be ready too, but I > still need to bleed the brakes. I don't know if that's easier with the > driver-side floorboard out. > > -rick > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/simon.d.matthews@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 16 06:09:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EFEE42F12 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 06:09:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f51.google.com (mail-oa0-f51.google.com [209.85.219.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138F34003B for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 06:03:16 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-oa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id i7so14495oag.38 for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2013 05:02:28 -0800 (PST) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=f2U/d7fTb+N+/7NB9mlrE6eAs8VNRIbGUX+dqaL8zNE=; b=mftkPXWQdzPx49If6bkNrxfM4lWXKrcCvAxAecUR9Ln1C/RnhcJsoefNaN3NdrPoef 4sMSpQycA0Axj1zDtVP6c1q144oFKr0aodnD2X9h1dL3WRw1UWTZtnRWFj7LDK1sF3y5 3Uo3Wpt0novObrzmnF9LFUNKZmRHUf3bw0p3WYJlR7IsoeqTdjtZRAH8RjNY/OdlYlEb pvMEL4flbRpAJddprqe52v92KoQyJmGoNO+3i7Vkjc94TV0fJzY7S+urlgcGRGQCsSZ5 fIcX/ksIwmdzpyVFT8Bm3cGIEr3t7lBkZKhOXe2PnZQe3eLDdRbgPUEtEGH0eL8Klj1x xXZg== Sat, 16 Nov 2013 05:02:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.68] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id nw5sm10159903obc.9.2013.11.16.05.02.26 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 16 Nov 2013 05:02:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 07:02:24 -0600 From: Rick Lindsay To: simon.d.matthews@gmail.com, mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Floor boards Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Simon asked, > Why not use an epoxy coating on the floorboards? Perfectly good question, and implied recommendation. Perfectly good answer: I'm cheap and already had the urethane left over from refinishing my home's front door. 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[107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ii8sm18258637obb.11.2013.11.17.12.18.22 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Nov 2013 12:18:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2013 14:18:19 -0600 From: Rick Lindsay To: mgs@autox.team.net, mg-t@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] Chrome Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Friends, Anyone here have a dependable chrome shop that do my TD's windshield frame and the headlight pods? -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 18 22:57:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B113642F60 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:57:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84C5540323 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:57:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9F9A025B for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:56:42 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:56:42 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 To: MG List Subject: [Mgs] Clutch problems. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Have a rubber bumper B with clutch problems. Hydraulics seem fine, pedal feels okay, not great, the slave moves the lever enough that it should work. But with the engine running when you push in the clutch pedal there is an odd sort of grumbling noise from the clutch, and it is obviously not working. One possibilty I thought of after I left my friend's shop was involves the throwout bearing. I didn't install this clutch, so I don't know if the retaining clips that hold the bearing to the fork were new, used or properly installed. Have any of you had one of these clips fail, allowing the bearing to fall out of the yoke? I'm wondering if that is a possibility. Another possibility is the person who did the job put the disk in backwards. But whatever the problem, the gearbox has to be pulled. I might get a bit dirty down at Bailey's tomorrow. mjb. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 18 23:13:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A1442F50 for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 23:13:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FD594044D for ; Mon, 18 Nov 2013 23:07:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.196.81.155] by nm17.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2013 06:06:42 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.99] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2013 06:06:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp119.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2013 06:06:42 -0000 KRlQCsYWCde7Qzpmc7OSZvQN54.Iy3mxhHcPV66jGPVxAoSBsB.Hb8cUAgny 2GINksBD5NjGci53kpWw97EyMDWTkubmILEYeLc5oEP9Xuu1ZM5ASCJUO3wN U3EAKSXkguDYFkDdvExo8MhLdMPL4VKY0iaskXrdR1EYKiDRFglcHRaXjXVO qi64NVSmYHav.arEn8sZjxrFdspkOUDbV7Z11nVwECkExGcyhmCnSVfbNZ3E Hk_iTz7.j4mdHnwWbXO07hlXVJrgwidJSNbra1SqLyHoP5esM7un4979kQ2O QlaVL0feVkEkdm1P9px1wNiOtSgI7pj2jahkE5BvPaw4W6VmF3yzIy2n3XT0 76dVLqRnqM43H5A6AuS_zZbL6.oC_60ObKLARbIYejWzZEBPqWychIZDEdBY 7iEJw0O2ZYuN5XCGAeyfyhX_NeSdEhoK4o2GKXDvI5rRm7lUgdD76NVc3jXK W.6T16hcy4SkMiPli7IumWwXzayCkmja_8iO66sJrV.eDZ2d6H3gkw5BcUMr 5YwiRAa5.0aT3GaSrlppACLGCmTZh4Lt91MOyhZJAMLbLPd1bJWdkzm_f_cr ElKgAUwxxS5bsZIk6 with ) by smtp119.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 2013 06:06:42 +0000 UTC Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 00:06:39 -0600 To: Mark J Bradakis ,MG List From: Barney Gaylord References: <528AFD9A.6030107@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Clutch problems. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net If the friction disc is installed backward, the center hub with springs will foul on the flywheel bolts, and the clurch will not release. If a new spigot bearing was installed, and the ID is a smidge too small, it will bind on the gearbox input shaft. In this case the clutch does release, but the input shaft keeps spinning same as if the clutch didn't release. In any case. if the slave cyliner pushrod and release arm moves at least 1/2", and it still doesn't release, the engine has to come out to fix the clutch. Barney Gaylord 1958 MGA with an attitude http://MGAguru.com At 10:56 PM 11/18/2013 -0700, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >Have a rubber bumper B with clutch problems. Hydraulics seem fine, >pedal feels okay, not great, the slave moves the lever enough that >it should work. But with the engine running when you push in the >clutch pedal there is an odd sort of grumbling noise from the >clutch, and it is obviously not working. > >One possibilty I thought of after I left my friend's shop was >involves the throwout bearing. I didn't install this clutch, so I >don't know if the retaining clips that hold the bearing to the fork >were new, used or properly installed. Have any of you had one of >these clips fail, allowing the bearing to fall out of the yoke? I'm >wondering if that is a possibility. > >Another possibility is the person who did the job put the disk in >backwards. But whatever the problem, the gearbox has to be >pulled. I might get a bit dirty down at Bailey's tomorrow. >.... _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 19 02:16:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F18A42F5A for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 02:16:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-6.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-6.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9E142A51 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 02:10:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-6-imp with bizsmtp id rM9F1m0064LtS4201M9FlX; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:09:15 +0000 a=4sBaHwKfTNYA:10 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=bNUMSIBgSxYA:10 a=iqRCbE_KEM7QY_I4FWoA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 From: "PaulHunt73" To: "Mark J Bradakis" , "MG List" References: <528AFD9A.6030107@bradakis.com> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 08:47:34 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Clutch problems. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net You say 'obviously not working', what do you mean? Not engaging? Not disengaging? Or something else? You say the hydraulics seem fine and the pedal feels OK. Therefore there must be back-pressure from the cover-plate diaphragm springs i.e. from the slave piston via the slave push-rod, release arm and release bearing to the cover-plate, or the pedal would feel ridiculously light with just the pedal return spring acting on the pedal. Without that back-pressure after two or three pumps the slave piston and fluid would have been pushed out of the slave cylinder, as it's only the cover plate that pushes it back when you release the pedal. Therefore the release bearing must be in it's correct position, even if the retaining springs hadn't been fitted. If they hadn't, unless the gearbox was standing on end and the engine lowered down onto it, I very much doubt the release bearing would have stayed attached to the release arm, and there would be no back-pressure from the cover-plate to the pedal. If the friction plate is put in backwards you have a gap between the friction surface and the flywheel which is more than the thickness of the friction plate, and the cover plate is held that much further away as well. Even if that can be bolted up to the flywheel it will push the diaphragm springs, release bearing and everything else further backwards by the same amount. Given the mechanical advantage of the release arm the slave push-rod and piston will be pushed into the slave cylinder by several times more than the normal travel of the piston, which will bottom the piston in its cylinder. If, with the pedal released, you can push the piston further back into the cylinder, and get some free-play in the linkage, then it is very unlikely that the friction plate is the wrong way round. If the spigot bearing is too small then someone would have had huge problems getting engine and gearbox back together. I agree that it has to come out again, but I'd do what whatever is needed to make the unusual noise and hope it leaves some witness marks that are visible when you dismantle things again. It could be that the release arm and hence the release bearing is not aligned correctly and so the release bearing casting is rubbing on the cover-plate boss that the carbon surface rubs against. I assume this is a carbon bearing and not a roller? If a roller that has to be the main suspect for any unusual noises that occur as you apply pressure. If the noise only occurs towards the end of the pedal travel that I'd say it is something like release arm or release baring rubbing on the cover plate. This assumes that the correct clutch kit was fitted, and there is nothing wrong with it. My son has recently had a clutch replaced on an M5 and the fitter went through three different ones fitted five times before he discovered that despite the correct numbers on the boxes there was a defect on the whole batch causing then not to disengage as they should. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > Have a rubber bumper B with clutch problems. Hydraulics seem fine, pedal > feels okay, not > great, the slave moves the lever enough that it should work. But with the > engine running > when you push in the clutch pedal there is an odd sort of grumbling noise > from the clutch, > and it is obviously not working. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 19 08:24:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A07842F84 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 08:24:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE50A403F5 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 08:23:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from [216.39.60.170] by nm19.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2013 15:22:28 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.96] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2013 15:22:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Nov 2013 15:22:28 -0000 s=s1024; t=1384874548; bh=e6mF4JhL6VwVqjEOg2h6I28mEMxeOBRqRAHCh7W/2V8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=HFibKnzFupYVfW5dwVQXfXFmr0a1byqrHZNA+H0LiGMWsSkDVv5FvKIxOzYPPhO7Jw/QaKgiIjp3HA9VpFtTjugFiqYW8xE8yXQM84p9DOuoODw7c08V+yaKSWZxJjsad40gnxEHkfJrdNd81T+R2DlILzSmYJ8X2VkgDY8s76s= Zjl53BaSiV3GqKJ3mj8PnQWYHfNdDbAaImd51_ahPVjJokGO_eoJsrqYzQUT IaTJxisTlyaqk3KqD2knc3wP46BwocYHHnGlD8bxnDEgSaESzhSPQT8gywsX v8pbqzFyO6pm38KLa9W8wD3XgpWEa1WH9JniuCPnKOIKP.iWyTPTkL3vfGA_ loG6U04myardpor_5LrqJ2E8VOPBOQD6Cx4gb.UxHt4ZCYeDYbdR30bGcJZX T6eqEvdnO.qfONXmSu5nkTPM2e16_0SMV8WZYS8uzhz3liDGH9BM3SHGo14c MtHBBxzHdjSEZYUwmetjmp4ydAjTpIc10haHPICZr9yEQqXTOlv08qldmZIo py55kdQyKaykR3h8Yv6h87MPCWFEBqoGv3zgfuIWCDRK6KMdBsfC2gJXG1.8 9W0M76OFFzW6owokxJG04FH1wayUZZPQeO34JWfu._1QjMKl3HczK_s9_Oqi PuTJVDkRntbaS3t50cKiaE6fzrywCTOW318mq5wFWYPlpw2wG6_vMnoe4Bur ykqhUMl1wMUBXxJg- with ) by smtp116.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Nov 2013 15:22:28 +0000 UTC Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 10:22:41 -0500 From: Jim Juhas User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 To: mgs@autox.team.net References: <528AFD9A.6030107@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Clutch problems. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know if your car uses a roller bearing or carbon bearing, nor did you say that this had been operating correctly and that this is now a failure. If this is a recent failure, I would suspect the throwout bearing. I had a carbon-type one fail abruptly, caused grumbling sounds, and then the clutch could not be disengaged. The carbon had disintegrated and fell out of the shell. The steel/iron remainder of the bearing against the pressure plate accounted for the noises. I have had roller-bearing throwout bearings fail on 60's-era Chevelles, and they would make a lot of noise before their failure. The carbon-type failure was abrupt, a snap, no disengagement, and noise when the pedal was depressed. On 11/19/2013 12:56 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > Have a rubber bumper B with clutch problems. Hydraulics seem fine, > pedal feels okay, not > great, the slave moves the lever enough that it should work. But with > the engine running > when you push in the clutch pedal there is an odd sort of grumbling > noise from the clutch, > and it is obviously not working. > > One possibilty I thought of after I left my friend's shop was involves > the throwout bearing. > I didn't install this clutch, so I don't know if the retaining clips > that hold the bearing to > the fork were new, used or properly installed. Have any of you had > one of these clips > fail, allowing the bearing to fall out of the yoke? I'm wondering if > that is a possibility. > > Another possibility is the person who did the job put the disk in > backwards. But whatever > the problem, the gearbox has to be pulled. I might get a bit dirty > down at Bailey's tomorrow. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/james.f.juhas@snet.net _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 19 09:00:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A1342F73 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:00:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-6.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-6.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC0840437 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 09:00:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-6-imp with bizsmtp id rTzF1m00x4LtS4201TzFdE; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:59:16 +0000 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=4sBaHwKfTNYA:10 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=bNUMSIBgSxYA:10 a=eepdApLEX_Cc41izTyAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=kLsEJDbYH8AA:10 a=S6IuRnzKt6EA:10 From: "PaulHunt73" To: References: <528AFD9A.6030107@bradakis.com> <528B8241.1010507@snet.net> Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 15:43:13 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Clutch problems. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Had that too. Gradually making more noise but still working, until it suddenly failed. Then the clutch pedal was very light, and a couple of pumps pushed the piston out of the cylinder (no back-pressure from the clutch to push it back or weight the pedal). PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > ... The carbon-type failure was abrupt, a snap, no disengagement, and > noise when the pedal was depressed. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 19 16:23:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1753042F60 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:23:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail32c40.carrierzone.com (mail89c40.carrierzone.com [209.235.156.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415F1403ED for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:23:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (c-174-49-34-41.hsd1.tn.comcast.net [174.49.34.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail32c40.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id rAJNMYOr014877 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 23:22:37 +0000 Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 17:22:56 -0600 From: Mark User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 To: MG List reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Mgs] Intro. New BGT owner Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello, My name is Mark and I am from Nashville, TN. I just got home with a new, to me, BGT in Mineral Blue. I am not new to the autox.team.net list server as I have been on other lists since the late 90's but I have been lurking here for a few months. I have had several other British cars, Healey 100, TR4A, Midget, TR2, a few other Sprites and Midgets and currently share my garage with a Bugeye and the new BGT. I have know the car I bought for 7 or 8 years and know both of the recent previous owners. The car was nicely restored locally and only needs a little freshening up and driving. This is my first MGB though, so I will probably have some questions. I will try not to ask stupid questions and I already know what oil to use and how much air to put in the tires. I already have reservations for NAMGBR event in French Lick next Spring and hopefully will meet some of you there. I am a displaced Hoosier but have never been to French Lick so we are looking forward to being there. Any of you that are also on the Spridgets list let me know you are here too. Mark Nashville 58 Bugeye 67 MGB GT "NEW" 09 Roush P51 Sleeper And a few other normal cars and trucks. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 19 16:35:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E8F42F74 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:35:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD379403ED for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 16:34:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from [68.200.28.244] ([68.200.28.244:53658] helo=[172.16.0.5]) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 3A/8D-16054-825FB825; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 23:32:56 +0000 From: "W. David Houser" Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 18:32:56 -0500 References: <528BF2D0.2090404@nashvilletn.org> To: Mark Cc: MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] Intro. New BGT owner Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Welcome, Mark. I've got a 67 BGT Special and look forward to any questions you may have about the car. Cheers, Dave Houser Brooksville, FL On Nov 19, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Mark wrote: > Hello, My name is Mark and I am from Nashville, TN. I just got home with a new, to me, BGT in Mineral Blue. I am not new to the autox.team.net list server as I have been on other lists since the late 90's but I have been lurking here for a few months. I have had several other British cars, Healey 100, TR4A, Midget, TR2, a few other Sprites and Midgets and currently share my garage with a Bugeye and the new BGT. I have know the car I bought for 7 or 8 years and know both of the recent previous owners. The car was nicely restored locally and only needs a little freshening up and driving. This is my first MGB though, so I will probably have some questions. I will try not to ask stupid questions and I already know what oil to use and how much air to put in the tires. I already have reservations for NAMGBR event in French Lick next Spring and hopefully will meet some of you there. I am a displaced Hoosier but have never been to French Lick so we are looking forward to being there. Any of you that are also on the Spridgets list let me know you are here too. > > Mark > Nashville > 58 Bugeye > 67 MGB GT "NEW" > 09 Roush P51 Sleeper > And a few other normal cars and trucks. > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgs4dave@tampabay.rr.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 19 17:37:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F95342F83 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 17:37:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30C96403ED for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 17:34:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0972A025B for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 17:33:53 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 17:33:53 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 To: MG List References: <528AFD9A.6030107@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Clutch problems. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wish I had thought to take my camera. The retaining clips were fine. The clutch disk had not been installed backwards. But the throwout bearing - or I should say the remains of the throwout bearing were a sight to see. mjb. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 19 18:06:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7345742F74 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 18:06:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C3F7B403ED for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 18:04:48 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1384909423; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=V1h1iB7uzYlC3wgb7spdeXSYO78shDv2fFIyDV+cxw+oDS1tn+qSpt30HUiMStAGH YwSKTeA5Jdcjn5nPCKdTEb9CWV+OWDjcWP9FhBm/kZZAFv8Grd5F634RYr/VZNsHUe 8Gw+WlnOvWriKJ28wmBub3XwL9EbUNGcWD9Ky5nY= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.102]) by smtpout01.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABKJ2CT5ATQW5UJ for (sender ); Tue, 19 Nov 2013 17:02:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [108.88.216.197] by webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 01:01:41 GMT From: "mgbob@juno.com" Full-Name: "mgbob@juno.com" Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 01:01:41 GMT To: mark@bradakis.com Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Clutch problems. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Can you describe the remains? Have you ideas about the cause of its demise? Bob ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Mark J Bradakis To: MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] Clutch problems. Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2013 17:33:53 -0700 Wish I had thought to take my camera. The retaining clips were fine. The clutch disk had not been installed backwards. But the throwout bearing - or I should say the remains of the throwout bearing were a sight to see. mjb. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbob@juno.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 19 22:43:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9566342FDD for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 22:43:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from col0-omc3-s1.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc3-s1.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.139]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DC840414 for ; Tue, 19 Nov 2013 22:41:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from COL401-EAS418 ([65.55.34.137]) by col0-omc3-s1.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:40:26 -0800 References: <528BF2D0.2090404@nashvilletn.org> From: James Schulte Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 00:40:23 -0500 To: "W. David Houser" FILETIME=[03D35010:01CEE5B3] Cc: MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] Intro. New BGT owner Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mark, Welcome to BGT ownership. I bought my first GT last November. It is a 74.5 and is getting the engine bay painted Teal blue like the rest of the car was last month. I am anxious to get "Skinner" back to continue the restoration. I too will be going to French Lick with my GT. Looking forward to seeing your GT. I had a C that was Mineral Blue. I love that color. What color is the interior? Jim 58 Magnette ZB automatic driver ( for sale ) Steel Blue 70 B Roadster driver Flame Red 74.5 BGT being restored Teal Blue Sent from my iPad > On Nov 19, 2013, at 6:34 PM, "W. David Houser" wrote: > > Welcome, Mark. > I've got a 67 BGT Special and look forward to any questions you may have about > the car. > Cheers, > Dave Houser > Brooksville, FL > > >> On Nov 19, 2013, at 6:22 PM, Mark wrote: >> >> Hello, My name is Mark and I am from Nashville, TN. I just got home with a > new, to me, BGT in Mineral Blue. I am not new to the autox.team.net list > server as I have been on other lists since the late 90's but I have been > lurking here for a few months. I have had several other British cars, Healey > 100, TR4A, Midget, TR2, a few other Sprites and Midgets and currently share my > garage with a Bugeye and the new BGT. I have know the car I bought for 7 or 8 > years and know both of the recent previous owners. The car was nicely > restored locally and only needs a little freshening up and driving. This is > my first MGB though, so I will probably have some questions. I will try not > to ask stupid questions and I already know what oil to use and how much air to > put in the tires. I already have reservations for NAMGBR event in French Lick > next Spring and hopefully will meet some of you there. I am a displaced > Hoosier but have never been to French Lick so we are looking forward to being > there. Any of you that are also on the Spridgets list let me know you are > here too. >> >> Mark >> Nashville >> 58 Bugeye >> 67 MGB GT "NEW" >> 09 Roush P51 Sleeper >> And a few other normal cars and trucks. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgs4dave@tampabay.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/schultejim@msn.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 20 00:20:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A2542FDD for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 00:20:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 731DD40410 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 00:20:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id rjJd1m0030EZKEL56jJwuu; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 07:18:56 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.105] ([69.137.94.144]) by omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id rjJv1m00J36tVd93MjJwGV; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 07:18:56 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 01:18:50 -0600 From: Glenn Schnittke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: mgs@autox.team.net References: s=q20121106; t=1384931936; bh=u9L+tZLhZEbgFZ42Qg7h0grBYsCQvwgdffzMgMzWiAM=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=ZLZVumB0MxkAuIKGXipDXElqJiv/d8wVBovsqblo5/lucJNuZxyVe5+KOiuplopRY Ex/VcLfNBbpPTd4DMgL80uuwLPCxs7XJe8MGQRNSuLvx2TLfcshIkS6NfOtbHYiWUz f4kplZCEASXgRudR6V+9w4IxYpbJRh94mBeXpnIVu/anAD/W6SpogetqgjhrgCRxCC DQkQB9GR2QJgb/OvRXVSKEmParfrqa4gqKf+PvBHBl8D2IBW/nnbyE8Rj3eCP2hj5g vdRXI6g1QA84YPJW3UJHhJeYT97+cuMGJ9jtz2dvMyTvl364oIMKrUhWBgnKiDrMvg ab4vLkP312CKQ== Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 78, Issue 16 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I concur with Barney on the half inch movement, though I could whittle it down to 15/32". If youget that much movement and no engagement, I'd say pull it. _Any _grinding noise, I'd say pullit. If you have a gooseneck probecamera you can get in there to see what's going on through the fork boot. If not, figure on an afternoon filled with ale and clutches. God knows, new parts never fail, do they? I've seen new carbon TO bearings crackbecause the backing steel was improperly machined. On 11/19/2013 1:00 PM, mgs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 22:56:42 -0700 > From: Mark J Bradakis > To: MG List > Subject: [Mgs] Clutch problems. > Message-ID:<528AFD9A.6030107@bradakis.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Have a rubber bumper B with clutch problems. Hydraulics seem fine, > pedal feels okay, not > great, the slave moves the lever enough that it should work. But with > the engine running > when you push in the clutch pedal there is an odd sort of grumbling > noise from the clutch, > and it is obviously not working. > > One possibilty I thought of after I left my friend's shop was involves > the throwout bearing. > I didn't install this clutch, so I don't know if the retaining clips > that hold the bearing to > the fork were new, used or properly installed. Have any of you had one > of these clips > fail, allowing the bearing to fall out of the yoke? I'm wondering if > that is a possibility. > > Another possibility is the person who did the job put the disk in > backwards. But whatever > the problem, the gearbox has to be pulled. I might get a bit dirty down > at Bailey's tomorrow. > > mjb. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 20 01:40:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C0942FD7 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 01:40:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-4.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-4.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1739F4040E for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 01:38:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-4-imp with bizsmtp id rkdi1m00z4LtS4201kdifU; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 08:37:42 +0000 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=4sBaHwKfTNYA:10 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=bNUMSIBgSxYA:10 a=LUlQp44CdFSVActVlMoA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 From: "PaulHunt73" To: "Mark J Bradakis" , "MG List" References: <528AFD9A.6030107@bradakis.com> <528C0371.10109@bradakis.com> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 08:19:20 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Clutch problems. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net How old was the bearing? For a while they were attaching the carbon ring to the casting with a roll-pin, but expansion and contraction caused the carbon to break up in short order: http://www.paulhunt73.webspace.virginmedia.com/mgb-stuff/images/rbearing3.jpg http://www.paulhunt73.webspace.virginmedia.com/mgb-stuff/images/rbearing4.jpg, this had done 8k. The manufacturers soon went back to bonded, but that left a stock of pinned floating around, so it's been a case of buyer beware ever since. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > ... But the throwout bearing - or I should say the remains of > the throwout bearing were a sight to see. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 20 09:57:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9A442FED for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 09:57:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8ACD4054A for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 09:52:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Nov 2013 16:51:06 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.246] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Nov 2013 16:51:05 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1055.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Nov 2013 16:51:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 71862 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Nov 2013 16:51:05 -0000 s=s1024; t=1384966265; bh=3LEQW9yhNdY//qdN5+brwOlD9TXKGj5roDtnGQ/hkm8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GUhewnOQe7VrMDGM7S9zcSD2aK6xheJAmfEObaUP3LnvE2dO6DVfmY1xabBh30VZAZZrkVKu8v0Jq9SrwALzMymnniGpVYi6snaxktSZxENCnkB8bnjZgpOfAHXLElUs0f8fngeFmi7TcwETk0x9oXebnraEFuf0Um4yJT3RvSE= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BC1gNApGZl+HpND6mt+dwmv3OEbGlWTep5gklYjimCZGtRbuxY0gbp1FpZQTTkbIvlQiWw8bYRqYYbt6CG1D+Cr4xccUmKC2RheRBA2Po4ZcKFirOhNoegBXY3TrrClYHD7gDLsJli7+b8vfP6ZFJieT5fvEA00GyLNz8GwuSNg=; kTGZzTPV6N0Vkd.gm4yEUBECaEoxYcBEX3T6BDmr_Yy5gGXYkJGSI8XAy4x6 u2Z5SCTNXkQtXY09GcjzJG7ZARP5uo9gFmJSkfaOZWyZZ1j_BI9Lwmlqx2uQ jPEMX4YUTplQvMTAipAYMRqgVgTJe4oqk1cfGIDP6xER6F2yxmnCVcOIXm2h 7sM27krZ5bHP5dxUAhJUrlse8gztwWZ48kK02xY.3w74C6oz_ovcgZvAsOyq vtTBxfyOq2cC8_hEVDkQ8GfWy6ZkxRs9NER4yXANwsv06yZM7Xuf_unjHLLc dzzFD8rGUMx1qDZWrKuzOtMLA38ZkG.C1jUhIsCMkaW5LUsOJ3tM6Akjt1gx ccFxWSM2T1a_Znvfn7HBdiMerYa6_JKRWzUaM5Mutzqi955l1K0rB6fzVvVB o_O8I3GKQfYbOYhHmwhberWDIpN54asSDzO__Uo01qPmrEOoiPDSisO7bOhj H8WXgdgCceNWT_595SA3Sy3N67hvxLPQP7NBC_ZJqFzn5Y4a.qwW9tCujFLo eDRtBZIgO6HV4U03rXZiycg9nnp0oEiTXyJN0kk6VcSwxUIvHXxEMYYj5E9O M6ImoZOzb74ytlOYga7t5.ltEqKaqFvU- Received: from [69.248.132.241] by web164904.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 08:51:05 PST SGksIE1hcmssIHdlbGNvbWUgdG8gdGhlIEIgbGlzdCEKCkRhbiBECic3NkIsICc2NUIKQ2VudHJhbCBOSiBVU0EKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogTWFyayA8bWFya0BuYXNodmlsbGV0bi5vcmc.ClRvOiBNRyBMaXN0IDxtZ3NAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQ.IApTZW50OiBUdWVzZGF5LCBOb3ZlbWJlciAxOSwgMjAxMyA2OjIyIFBNClN1YmplY3Q6IFtNZ3NdIEludHJvLiAgTmV3IEJHVCBvd25lcgogCgpIZWxsbyzCoCBNeSBuYW1lIGlzIE1hcmsgYW5kIEkgYW0gZnJvbSABMAEBAQE- References: <528BF2D0.2090404@nashvilletn.org> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 08:51:05 -0800 (PST) From: Dan DiBiase To: Mark , MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] Intro. New BGT owner Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, Mark, welcome to the B list! Dan D '76B, '65B Central NJ USA ________________________________ From: Mark To: MG List Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 6:22 PM Subject: [Mgs] Intro. New BGT owner Hello, My name is Mark and I am from Nashville, TN. I just got home with a new, to me, BGT in Mineral Blue. I am not new to the autox.team.net list server as I have been on other lists since the late 90's but I have been lurking here for a few months. I have had several other British cars, Healey 100, TR4A, Midget, TR2, a few other Sprites and Midgets and currently share my garage with a Bugeye and the new BGT. I have know the car I bought for 7 or 8 years and know both of the recent previous owners. The car was nicely restored locally and only needs a little freshening up and driving. This is my first MGB though, so I will probably have some questions. I will try not to ask stupid questions and I already know what oil to use and how much air to put in the tires. I already have reservations for NAMGBR event in French Lick next Spring and hopefully will meet some of you there. I am a displaced Hoosier but have never been to French Lick so we are looking forward to being there. Any of you that are also on the Spridgets list let me know you are here too. Mark Nashville 58 Bugeye 67 MGB GT "NEW" 09 Roush P51 Sleeper And a few other normal cars and trucks. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 20 12:53:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA7842FD7 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:53:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm44-vm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm44-vm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D74340452 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:52:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.196.81.173] by nm44.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Nov 2013 19:51:37 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.205] by tm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Nov 2013 19:51:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1014.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Nov 2013 19:51:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 5694 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Nov 2013 19:51:37 -0000 s=s1024; t=1384977097; bh=9CMB0nrnkA3iwoCy6JqU+BhFzOSDUF6di7/LXBWioo4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kncSGOP4dHQys+uEpZqMy8LvgTEe5cNreW30eQ1OpAI4H9MtPO1Pll26Pum3FX4SG3Volv66th+OOcHs4Fw/1BWzwX+ZA4Em3CyZDJx05Y0Q7PRf4/a+CwoMW4JgTPIm2nEVeI1QkdhPKyXt8RuVUx6QDP4aWyfRRFLYoM0kLLY= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Yf/RfStj+bM4ZGBKOHJrqNxjMj25WbXmfgCWBCp/Bi356bYCZnC8RK4iZJzps9gdwETE/JHVmFsthiYqLHugaxFuNqTTamV5q0NofSRElHsPbPaN10+Pwa1mTpcBrLjmdVtzVYoPxE1Fu5PaJm83nsme8D2w9L3AlWXzz20xH5U=; VGxoKP80nduRmiZ87.NrvFeGceq93ljSKiIu6ct82lKURKbKITw4GTfC3ZEo PPIhB6VTCtazXuDaiQ03iyNnIrCeqnnevpx40JIaWySBJ7_x5Zbgo1UL5.q9 o6DC6wThV8g_GH39ljsBGPMdTrRY5xK.bAyPq3BFM4ScWmIW0EZk0tCAKwCW 0548W1KHxyQ7.Mm.MnvpI3B.SAigqiLxQJYllnq6UC4dnyPwNK9UHgBvTUwl xfanE5jRBvcJhUhesqYQbUN9NUjcsh0rIFr2D5X2sVZVzOFx8EPUKwsjDpMJ ONfpXaGHSqMmexK2Up4Ugm5Z7b0RrJzFMGRzwL8rJ_WzBqfD5kBLXJW0rBC9 lwz8iHHWcpuFmjDpc9StlSMxzvieiS.9WsiWTTtDN0VHCGjJGdDt5_136AV7 OIq.O6mDYgRk8BR6rt.EMcBbHxUfeXWe0JCZ9BnyryDlM5gU2t.gpOCG3CpZ OKoYgoa3EWwQjiomoDQTu.QsWGv1Pp8k00TRo0TGgjJ8oygsYzzT5vkj2w.V Gzn5e363nxySGwvza7OsL9d2.f4DpH2WZiP0K3nTaEy7aK9sZM4NH1B17fEm OyPDJmsvmgfbYwt6lQsyGfX7UZZ.lNdIi142EDJfakivaIf_s7MJytZXKqfo 185MY Received: from [69.248.132.241] by web164902.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:51:37 PST QXNzdW1pbmcgaXQgaXMgYWxsIG9yaWdpbmFsLi4uLi4gOy0pCgpEYW4gRAonNzZCLCAnNjVCCkNlbnRyYWwgTkogVVNBCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogUmljaGFyZCBMaW5kc2F5IDxyaWNoYXJkb2xpbmRzYXlAZ21haWwuY29tPgpUbzogIm1nc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldCBMaXN0IiA8bWdzQGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0PjsgIm1nLXRAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQiIDxtZy10QGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0PjsgUnVpIEdpZ2FudGUgPHJ1aS5naWdhbnRlQGdtYWlsLmNvbT4gClMBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:51:37 -0800 (PST) From: Dan DiBiase To: Richard Lindsay , "mgs@autox.team.net List" Subject: Re: [Mgs] Wood eye?! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Assuming it is all original..... ;-) Dan D '76B, '65B Central NJ USA ________________________________ From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" ; "mg-t@autox.team.net" ; Rui Gigante Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:47 AM Subject: [Mgs] Wood eye?! Hey Friends, Just one picture for now. I found it interesting that in addition to the plywood, the factory used just any wood they had for the seat base. In this picture you can see that two thirds of the seat's support frame is pine, or some other white wood, while one side of the support is mahogany! Its just a cool quirk of the time. They used what they had. Kinda makes one think that the white wood may be cut from left-over pallets. Certainly looks like it. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131120_100447.jpg The glossiness is from the wood hardener, still wet in this flash picture. -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 20 13:04:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A16F43003 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:04:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f50.google.com (mail-oa0-f50.google.com [209.85.219.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DC7403F0 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 12:56:32 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-oa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id n16so1197808oag.23 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:55:25 -0800 (PST) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:reply-to:mime-version :content-type; bh=jm09WqKlAITtJxuGBP8vXyLewDENPX2ULiSY+/nIG2o=; b=V13PQ/nS2XN67fhYSgaQ+QQcpa/0QDiEwKi4VknzGvBnuq70MeSvQruaER8e5BRYmp WCuA6hhAC5p/9ue5Fe53/CVdNnnot3glhefy3JytBDWHkEN4P/BckuoOUFKJL7hK5I8m qRry7wZuNZfu8wHvBKu1bq+5zqvPvtd20x8xHopO+RobNpWbhg0yRrUDjHyqN/XotkrC /7y8byWRL6D9ocDg8yPYewHgCeh0U4uX0K39boG52k7wa64I3g98gzodFQf8xBAnP5ss q60oxebzxVh4exEqVbdNIKK8y+I1bJIYSKubhOkkcrg0T7TwiPeMfijhXpayOxfwpPi2 u2GA== Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:55:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.68] (107-192-134-236.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. [107.192.134.236]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id rr6sm48461632oeb.0.2013.11.20.11.55.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Nov 2013 11:55:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 13:55:22 -0600 From: Rick Lindsay To: d_dibiase@yahoo.com, mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Wood eye?! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Correct. May not be. It has been 60 years... -------- Original message -------- From: Dan DiBiase Date: 11/20/2013 1:51 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Richard Lindsay ,"mgs@autox.team.net List" Subject: Re: [Mgs] Wood eye?! Assuming it is all original..... ;-) Dan D '76B, '65B Central NJ USA ________________________________ From: Richard Lindsay To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" ; "mg-t@autox.team.net" ; Rui Gigante Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:47 AM Subject: [Mgs] Wood eye?! Hey Friends, Just one picture for now. I found it interesting that in addition to the plywood, the factory used just any wood they had for the seat base. In this picture you can see that two thirds of the seat's support frame is pine, or some other white wood, while one side of the support is mahogany! Its just a cool quirk of the time. They used what they had. Kinda makes one think that the white wood may be cut from left-over pallets. Certainly looks like it. http://www.aubard.us/MGTD/20131120_100447.jpg The glossiness is from the wood hardener, still wet in this flash picture. -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 20 18:23:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B678542EF6 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:23:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A8E42EF6 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:21:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta16.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.88]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id s11S1m0031uE5Es551LArt; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 01:20:10 +0000 Received: from yourmb2swywknr ([98.223.26.205]) by omta16.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id s1LA1m0054RWySi3c1LAkk; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 01:20:10 +0000 From: "Bob Donahue" To: "mgs" Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:20:56 -0500 s=q20121106; t=1384996810; bh=nIObFIuZEouVoFQxE+3Rmp3pd+tmcvdritNYWbO8Q3I=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=KlkJBakDoQQC/L85QFdv9YKMwzVdbs+AoMdzJTYYV2ikFjxzDHBTA20ZOlBN0Kttj z1w08pA/K2F9sKap1WAFKXq8KJtproUL21dnxeQOzVSMHpOeHjoHw7JFT0OmHG4gou nJMo5GiAymL6Ac2z6rI9vS98rPyJVuuksteZ4KQehpQY3aLVJtBs4l2slY5Y5St12m yIeexvfOQF0bGGjDC5a38QlAiOBFYFqWRVu7pw2uUZYWUlCA18QFT8rb6f3qI1nV1j /TUzZYQ8EM3mwrD2lMRSSJiy/WWjvs7n1t7XPeTX1qORCvIoE33dIRkc5AMJtu7J62 Re4Y21JFiKBEA== Subject: [Mgs] Alternate alternator for 71 MGB? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Lucas joking aside, I have not had good luck with their alternators, and now I need another. What are the non-Lucas alternatives? I'm more interested in ease of installation than cost. Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) Email - bobmgtd@comcast.net Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 Member: NEMGTR #11470 NAMGBR # 7-3336 Hoosier MGB Club Olde Octagons of Indiana _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 20 18:38:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A4794305A for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:38:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B66E40511 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:32:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 277E370000083; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:31:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mkc002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mkc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.98.69]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E3834E000082; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:31:02 -0500 (EST) References: To: bobmgtd@comcast.net, mgs@autox.team.net From: timfboston@aol.com Received: from 24.60.103.175 by webmail-m156.sysops.aol.com (64.12.159.1) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:31:02 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:31:02 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1384997463; bh=BvyliV8/Yj87bavcylq6AqVcZR8N4Nqf2qonRlSKgmg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mtkgPFTfJFngT1jVWvE35aV0u/pxeWAyt3q3jKPfK56MOVtfNwSkg85cdEQt41um4 M5bczO/9VaLbPKe78qstJ+OK6qaoA+5SMEgUJy+j5no0XHJGZresGNuM1QAnIyf2/N jrRLxCZcL0YS+Ms50gorEU94rWFT0ICH2YK/g4r8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c7528d625658fd Subject: Re: [Mgs] Alternate alternator for 71 MGB? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I replaced my stock alternator with this one (Cs130). Everything included for an easy install. One of the best improvements I made to my 1971 MGB http://www.mgccars.com/electrical-upgrades-for-you.html -----Original Message----- From: Bob Donahue To: mgs Sent: Wed, Nov 20, 2013 8:22 pm Subject: [Mgs] Alternate alternator for 71 MGB? Lucas joking aside, I have not had good luck with their alternators, and now I need another. What are the non-Lucas alternatives? I'm more interested in ease of installation than cost. Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) Email - bobmgtd@comcast.net Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 Member: NEMGTR #11470 NAMGBR # 7-3336 Hoosier MGB Club Olde Octagons of Indiana _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/timfboston@aol.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 20 19:08:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D5A4053A for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:08:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from d.mail.sonic.net (d.mail.sonic.net [64.142.111.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B847C40396 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:06:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from [173.228.28.165] (173-228-28-165.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [173.228.28.165]) (authenticated bits=0) by d.mail.sonic.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id rAL25iOP008110 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:05:47 -0800 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.36.0.130206 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 17:40:04 -0800 From: Max Heim To: MG List Thread-Topic: [Mgs] Alternate alternator for 71 MGB? Thread-Index: Ac7mWpms1u2LaXVQkk6f2VDIo8Lwgg== Subject: Re: [Mgs] Alternate alternator for 71 MGB? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I am using a Bosch or Delco/Remy alternator sourced from a Ford Fiesta. I believe this is a fairly common substitution. Uses the same block bracket and belt, but I had to fab a new slotted adjuster bracket to get enough range of adjustment (I suppose a shorter belt would have had the same effect, but then I'd have had to remember THAT application). I was converting from a generator, so YMMV. 1980 FORD FIESTA 1.6L 1598cc 98cid L4 2BBL OHV REMY 13107 $43.99 + $5 core charge (in 2011) on 11/20/13 5:20 PM, Bob Donahue at bobmgtd@comcast.net wrote: > Lucas joking aside, I have not had good luck with their alternators, and now I > need another. What are the non-Lucas alternatives? I'm more interested in ease > of installation than cost. > > Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) > Email - bobmgtd@comcast.net > Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 > 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 > Member: NEMGTR #11470 > NAMGBR # 7-3336 > Hoosier MGB Club > Olde Octagons of Indiana -- Max Heim '66 MGB GHN3L76149 If you're near Menlo Park, CA, it's the primer red one with chrome wires _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 20 20:46:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7F142EF6 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:46:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30AC40530 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:46:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.74]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id s3Fm1m0011bwxyc013kt46; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 03:44:53 +0000 Received: from mail-lb0-f177.google.com ([209.85.217.177]) by omta18.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id s3is1m00B3qDwFD8e3it3g; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 03:42:53 +0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f177.google.com with SMTP id w7so4213661lbi.22 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:42:51 -0800 (PST) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=gdBJlzmBw9ZeOAMX2nfnEI3mlUZtVw5jKIW3Nyyn5Eg=; b=h2yS7hX+QYEx89Khd9ui+W53uz/4FgGwmGV+82+zDPUNtK1XEElpODlz18RwaIiOa3 5aaCYq2UrKn0ecKvXbq6cs5+e0U+uIboM374iULe+GlS8hcR3sg02L+xAOlFLCv2bDvJ 2tGMcj9ogthsivLMSOV7/orrWsqTrhDZUFcR6ezgsAvCdERtcAShxmKgfnsIUZHkdGF8 vEJQ8WCCM584zOsqVwg9XOj8Z1HqkvMuN6T3an0fBd7pL4rGMmMUlhjn1QSAF5oiSAS4 Hgy4RLqaXEO/ActPz+kl/PIiunIymHTFt+bMWgjom/Nqwh/gfawwAMjzCAU9ln3lvP3h /L/A== lg3mr3126994lab.0.1385005371612; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.147.167 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.147.167 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Nov 2013 19:42:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 20:42:51 -0700 From: Andrew Lundgren To: mgs@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1385005493; bh=gdBJlzmBw9ZeOAMX2nfnEI3mlUZtVw5jKIW3Nyyn5Eg=; h=Received:Received:Received:MIME-Version:Received:Received:Date: Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Content-Type; b=isYdeOxOTcw0yC0mvIwDGToEAoJ58sDl7duduaQhtVccq0drEAHdI1ksWLv4MzIse yZhlzlUumtgP7VH/hZZJ+kZ1FVCf+lwz0NSIO1eO+jzvQfKh5ZEzkxhkowvtPLu4TB rG6ulSQltonacD/iabNHUHe2arNJ3rot94TQWtsA99gEx64C/1fGI1p4pVJcf20YIT MHCISGgSf2kJzAM1RpgBSB2Cyrkd1rZLUj3IYlPR085NRaXNPBzX5bUZdWs/n7lY2J VymAP/GYb5V1vrkO4PQygwYQoTxe0wA2rweFBmSYAMtfnFw4NqQhqHp2IYdCYGX7UI ksGQqAYcgg93A== Subject: [Mgs] MGB in another movie. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net My son texted me tonight to tell me that Forever Strong (2010) has a rubber bumper MGB in it. I haven't seen it, but it didn't get very good reviews. Andrew _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 21 01:43:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8212D4306B for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 01:43:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-4.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-4.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3732B42A31 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 01:40:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-4-imp with bizsmtp id s8fS1m01A4LtS42018fTMZ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 08:39:27 +0000 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=8HTlE-dL2xwA:10 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=2QaR2MfkPq0A:10 a=BHyU12teVJi0argfUsUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 From: "PaulHunt73" To: "Bob Donahue" , "mgs" References: Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 08:17:50 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Alternate alternator for 71 MGB? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net If I'd had problems with alternators (plural) I'd either be looking at where I had bought them from (if all the same place) or for some other problem on the car. The only alternator problem I've ever had in 40 years (dynamo before that) - and most of those have been Lucas - was a known batch problem with the rectifier pack in the 70s. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > Lucas joking aside, I have not had good luck with their alternators, and > now I > need another. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 21 18:24:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A06430C4 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:24:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0005842F0A for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:24:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from [172.16.1.2] (unknown [69.76.16.197]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A0F35794 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 20:22:44 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Whiteman Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 17:22:42 -0800 To: MGS List Subject: [Mgs] Diff clunk surprise Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net So I'm working on a thrust washer replacement job, and I thought at this point I'd just share. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10201793629954647 and check out the brass thrust washer: https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/q71/s720x720/1462875_1020179 3648995123_598633678_n.jpg I think... I think I found my clunk. And since... well, since the wear is a bit worse than I expected, what should I be looking for while I'm in here to confirm I don't overlook any damage. -- Aaron _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Nov 21 18:39:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C172C430E6 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:39:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC3BB42F0A for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:36:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC51AA0344 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:35:10 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2013 18:35:10 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 To: MGS List References: <3F707247-B336-4E00-8794-D5F5EFAAA441@panix.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Diff clunk surprise Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Yep, a bit of wear there. I'll suggest pulling the pinion and carefully checking both bearings, possibly replacing. If the thrust washers under the spider gears shed a lot of metal the bearings could be trashed. The carrier bearings will be a lot easier to check. mjb. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 23 12:29:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A03D42F04 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 12:29:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6EA9403D5 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 12:28:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from [172.16.1.2] (unknown [69.76.16.197]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E396E35956 for ; Sat, 23 Nov 2013 14:27:21 -0500 (EST) From: Aaron Whiteman Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 11:27:18 -0800 Cc: MGS List References: <3F707247-B336-4E00-8794-D5F5EFAAA441@panix.com> <528EB4CE.3070003@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Diff clunk surprise Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net On Nov 21, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > Yep, a bit of wear there. I'll suggest pulling the pinion and carefully checking both > bearings, possibly replacing. If the thrust washers under the spider gears shed a lot > of metal the bearings could be trashed. The carrier bearings will be a lot easier to check. At the advice of Mark here and a friend that saw the photo on facebook, I've decided to replace the bearings wholesale. This simple little project just went beyond my skill level. I've got the axle removed and will send it off to a local rebuilder next week (I hope). While I've got it out, I'll replace the rear spring bushings and order new hydraulic lines from the rear flex line back. The car looks a little forlorn sitting on jackstands with nothing under it, but I wouldn't be driving it anyway. The weather is taunting me (30 and bright blue skies), but the car is only partially insured (no liability) until spring. So I've got plenty of time. -- Aaron _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 25 08:37:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C0CC42EEA for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:37:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail28c40.carrierzone.com (mail28c40.carrierzone.com [209.235.156.168]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C962C4041D for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:36:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (c-174-49-34-41.hsd1.tn.comcast.net [174.49.34.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail28c40.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id rAPFZJa5027672 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 15:35:20 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:34:54 -0600 From: Mark User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 To: MG List reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Mgs] Heater Air Control Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Here is my first post regarding my recently acquired 67 BGT. I was sorting out the heater air flow control mechanical switch this weekend and ran into a problem. The spring on the shaft of the air control that holds the knob is missing. Someone in the past had put a set screw in the plastic knob that fit poorly in hole in the shaft that held the detent. The switch works but not well. I see that the usual sources don't have the replacement switch and the plastic won't hold the set screw for long. are there any good options to fix the shaft? Maybe a replacement spring and detent? I also have minimal flow of hot water through the heater core and have ordered a new heater control valve. I need to flush the cooling system anyway so I will replace the valve when empty the radiator. Thanks, Mark Nashville _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 25 09:12:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2319440425 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:12:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB96F40424 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:11:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tqVG1m0010QkzPwA7sAKUG; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 16:10:19 +0000 Received: from mail-la0-f44.google.com ([209.85.215.44]) by omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ts8H1m00X0y2uvD8Ns8Jym; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 16:08:19 +0000 Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id ep20so3185587lab.17 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:08:17 -0800 (PST) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=WrbhRHj93bwPdVnGbzl+0RUy3f+icKzh9vlOOz+rztA=; b=mUMpc/rG11w/2c9PfjBc3f15cfpXlFXC5LPCcelKyMSg6o5vwGA68VGvTAW7yhuWaT JrpZiWk46r6iJ6ibweVIldAilZddiw2fivQjSfnAEictxxoBvX3yVjV82OzC8pFGe+Nt mjc6F0G2e3nFoo/RfTC8p+zbQ+i/A5EXdMxVAcsTrj0y9Ww6k8pHBmag/XkvXJvl95NU vx1K52i0TkAJUz+XW3CP7HJpAoFcqNHW4PKY5BWqAjowQ3yCKyG11m2f4IyVNcnXGtBq xBgk3tWoDhig7bPXESnQ8pRCiRusa0YpWpzH6PdQto4blNZ5WvgSFdjejaQbXGRk1cJt P+dA== po5mr2017554lac.34.1385395697548; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:08:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.147.167 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:08:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.147.167 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 08:08:17 -0800 (PST) References: <52936E1E.3020903@nashvilletn.org> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:08:17 -0700 From: Andrew Lundgren To: Mark s=q20121106; t=1385395819; bh=WrbhRHj93bwPdVnGbzl+0RUy3f+icKzh9vlOOz+rztA=; h=Received:Received:Received:MIME-Version:Received:Received:Date: Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Content-Type; b=cMCyKXVaG93FHALtDuLxdBdjYS4cYh8c4bPvjae8tfGqAXHj1WdI0FC3hFOh+WKXx to4Qz+0vsxoaEpehDgVC+/Vqr5BuwLkTGJTfmZ5rUyrdmMh3L5E4raCcHy8scEY22h O6J0IzhMDTjptCxq509VnYVmP7Gv3Z18IcEfu3L4TCJF2RMhH4p5UI3ZsW/Q4EuKqc r3V0HyrcvKoJnKGoHvnla5tLmuCt6NoO4CPEMAjf+CpgUwUU51CY92ZPSI/eWi+w6A xY5gWG2WCZOH1xmOA/be2yOZofivDN1pLxpojM807SKryek2f9kFTeUQtGGwYyGX0C VYzkGQoMSHZGg== Cc: MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] Heater Air Control Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net On some years there is not enough travel in the heater control lever/knob to fully open the heater valve. Some people adjust it so that it will not close all the way in the winter and then again when it warms up so that it doesn't open all the way. Someone posted a long time ago about reworking the value to get more volume through it. It has pictures and was on a website. My experience is to be careful with that value. They put it right above the distributor, and it is known to fail, dumping coolant. I ended up using a bit of an aluminum can to block mine of when it broke and soaked my distributor one year. On Nov 25, 2013 8:36 AM, "Mark" wrote: > Here is my first post regarding my recently acquired 67 BGT. I was > sorting out the heater air flow control mechanical switch this weekend and > ran into a problem. The spring on the shaft of the air control that holds > the knob is missing. Someone in the past had put a set screw in the > plastic knob that fit poorly in hole in the shaft that held the detent. > The switch works but not well. I see that the usual sources don't have > the replacement switch and the plastic won't hold the set screw for long. > are there any good options to fix the shaft? Maybe a replacement spring > and detent? I also have minimal flow of hot water through the heater core > and have ordered a new heater control valve. I need to flush the cooling > system anyway so I will replace the valve when empty the radiator. > > Thanks, > > Mark > Nashville > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/lundgren@byu.net _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 25 09:59:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D29E42F66 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:59:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-4.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-4.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D675640425 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:59:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-4-imp with bizsmtp id tsxs1m0184LtS4201sxs6H; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 16:57:52 +0000 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=1nAe9_FwHQsA:10 a=rEksZUn3BHT_NTi8zIYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 From: "PaulHunt73" To: "Mark" , "MG List" References: <52936E1E.3020903@nashvilletn.org> Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 16:57:54 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Heater Air Control Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Anything in the heater circuit can cause reduced flow, including the core itself and the metal pipe that carries the return flow back to the bottom hose. Unfortunately replacement valves are pretty poor, The original lasted 30 years, the replacement less than 10. If the detent is missing but the hole is clear I'd tap the hole and uses a grub-screw, even if you could get the correct control (and there are many with different configurations) they are expensive. Either that or get a cheap second hand one and if the wrong type perhaps swap the spring and pip over. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > ... The spring on the shaft of the air control that holds the knob is > missing. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 25 10:40:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A157F40514 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 10:40:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc3-s22.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s22.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D834041E for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 10:40:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU177-W44 ([65.55.116.73]) by blu0-omc3-s22.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:38:32 -0800 From: Mike E To: Mark , MG List Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 12:38:31 -0500 References: <52936E1E.3020903@nashvilletn.org> FILETIME=[28DEA8E0:01CEEA05] Subject: Re: [Mgs] Heater Air Control Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mark, I may have an air control mechanism from a late '70s pillow dash roadster that I could send you. Maybe someone else here would be kind enough to verify that it will fit your '67 BGT? Cheers, -Mike Eldred Wilmington, VT > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:34:54 -0600 > From: mark@nashvilletn.org > To: mgs@autox.team.net > Subject: [Mgs] Heater Air Control > > Here is my first post regarding my recently acquired 67 BGT. I was > sorting out the heater air flow control mechanical switch this weekend > and ran into a problem. The spring on the shaft of the air control that > holds the knob is missing. Someone in the past had put a set screw in > the plastic knob that fit poorly in hole in the shaft that held the > detent. The switch works but not well. I see that the usual sources > don't have the replacement switch and the plastic won't hold the set > screw for long. are there any good options to fix the shaft? Maybe a > replacement spring and detent? I also have minimal flow of hot water > through the heater core and have ordered a new heater control valve. I > need to flush the cooling system anyway so I will replace the valve when > empty the radiator. > > Thanks, > > Mark > Nashville > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/redscirocco@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 25 20:33:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9B140531 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 20:33:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440F0403E6 for ; Mon, 25 Nov 2013 20:33:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id u3SR1m0071HzFnQ5E3Xny1; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 03:31:47 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.105] ([69.137.94.144]) by omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id u3Xm1m00T36tVd93a3Xn64; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 03:31:47 +0000 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 21:31:43 -0600 From: Glenn Schnittke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: mgs@autox.team.net References: s=q20121106; t=1385436707; bh=Tfy/U/mfH/rgsVfwzEuv23cbXjwUD2aXYgnMO3T5ZtE=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:MIME-Version:To:Subject: Content-Type; b=PWFdh1NhaP0h5y/5no7fgg2BcoNPYa60hoiVMopvNUszJV+raSJn4S9GxjIG6uRJf zw+xBySviuUioULcd1cYrtOlgTYGGoNBtF/CuPtz9rietwNp4RaA7BQBp5hRQ9LyTC LzranUq2furuZjhy8SsoKjO+5wHiOerRMrhWurFCv3vJh9tM9c9McFh9Ctn1FooB/M xCE9BAiThqZUJLnEbFVFDV0tAyZlhhzXjzCat6fJq9K7Tx7nfIKCBdXW+XlSIwA2as dbNhme0e5cGoKVhEarSV6WV/mJAPOZDAQ0UE6MP5/7Evws9oPWOxc+em9C+PXjmj4N zZPqNE6BnVpgA== Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 78, Issue 22 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mark, If I recall *most* of the springs and pips at the end of the shaft are interchangeable between the marques, but don't hold me to that. It may boil down to the length of the spring. If you can find a used whole switch you can transfer the parts. I'd recommend against tapping it and going to a grub screw. That would be silly. As far as the valve goes, I found a trick at the Chicagoland MG Club website about taking a new valve apart and adding a washer under a grommet and I did it and it helped considerably in a former car and never leaked. I don't remember the exact gag right now, but it does increase waterflow through the valve and did not leak when I was done. It does involve voiding the warranty. At the start of winter and spring I change the setting on the heater switch from one side to the other and go to the valve and physically take it to the end of its travel and wire it into place. It ain't a Honda. Still doesn't do me any good. I still freeze my butt off on the way home from work all winter. In the summer I put the top down or top up and rear window zipped down. You can put your top down with a sawzall, but putting it back up might be a job. Glenn On 11/25/2013 1:00 PM, mgs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 09:34:54 -0600 > From: Mark > To: MG List > Subject: [Mgs] Heater Air Control > Message-ID:<52936E1E.3020903@nashvilletn.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Here is my first post regarding my recently acquired 67 BGT. I was > sorting out the heater air flow control mechanical switch this weekend > and ran into a problem. The spring on the shaft of the air control that > holds the knob is missing. Someone in the past had put a set screw in > the plastic knob that fit poorly in hole in the shaft that held the > detent. The switch works but not well. I see that the usual sources > don't have the replacement switch and the plastic won't hold the set > screw for long. are there any good options to fix the shaft? Maybe a > replacement spring and detent? I also have minimal flow of hot water > through the heater core and have ordered a new heater control valve. I > need to flush the cooling system anyway so I will replace the valve when > empty the radiator. > > Thanks, > > Mark > Nashville _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 26 01:40:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067594054C for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 01:40:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-6.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-6.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 659E8403C5 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 01:40:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-6-imp with bizsmtp id u8f01m00E4LtS42018f0Ku; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 08:39:00 +0000 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=1nAe9_FwHQsA:10 a=qBq8aSOfh4un5Vtt5C8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 From: "PaulHunt73" Cc: "MG List" References: <52936E1E.3020903@nashvilletn.org> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 08:19:23 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Heater Air Control Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I've never had a problem with the heater when everything is working as it should, I get 63C/145F out of mine at an ambient of 8C/46F and that's enough to burn our feet. You can't expect what is basically a 60-year old design to compete with modern cars. There are no less then 10 areas in the system that can cause low output and all need checking. Because of the lost motion in the linkage and the fact that the arc of operation of the control is much the same as the arc of operation of the valve, it is true that if you adjust the linkage to fully close the valve it doesn't move the lever its full distance when open. However that is a long way from being restrictive as it should still lift the main part of the seal off its seat. Before that it is controlling a needle valve, which gives fine control at smaller openings, and this is what you need to remember if contemplating a different design of valve, which may not have that fine control. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > On some years there is not enough travel in the heater control lever/knob > to fully open the heater valve. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 26 02:10:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D7640539 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 02:10:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-6.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-6.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B5BE403C5 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 02:10:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-6-imp with bizsmtp id u99B1m00D4LtS420199BpH; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 09:09:11 +0000 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=1nAe9_FwHQsA:10 a=yAohWrd_8ydSXTD2tlQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=ZKGE7QFS_j0A:10 a=TbcRs4Do4n8A:10 From: "PaulHunt73" To: "Mike E" , "Mark" , "MG List" References: <52936E1E.3020903@nashvilletn.org> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 08:43:08 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Heater Air Control Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net If Mark's is a Mk1 with a tin dash then probably not directly as if nothing else the Parts Catalogue quotes different part numbers, but comparing the item numbers stamped onto the control would confirm, these are of the form '3/nnn. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > I may have an air control mechanism from a late '70s pillow dash roadster > that > I could send you. Maybe someone else here would be kind enough to verify > that > it will fit your '67 BGT? _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 29 18:12:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03D6C42FB2 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 18:12:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f178.google.com (mail-ie0-f178.google.com [209.85.223.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2688542F73 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 18:12:13 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f178.google.com with SMTP id lx4so17111589iec.37 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 17:10:21 -0800 (PST) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :subject:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=fhT6DngpT41NgcxpkzmCKeo6qAKHUidvgBaV7uF3mWI=; b=LpmRvZD8i/HYm50AjtP/B3gcfOwjE7Vcm5rlcK5sw/ZvRxII1aFbFUSxnY8evYH/mE EbAzzZaq9s3SiVIqSKYJx2AsiY28KHICOWBoH31Ev2sR918AT7Nvy0tGxh747gB/GOnQ rmC9zDT82bl5zRaW8WRLuPuKC/Pp3RNdtYfBB1T9qBcj/NhfWNGrtr8ohvPqjBHwKtyP vRnnwBYV5GvQGJ+EIRq3q83hq8N/l74UYLzz8tzIHzFq/1NuRE5rCAIJHYWXAcl2YGFw AnVtrEFAZQI1Cb1t9yybFBKvNn3Oqr+l0SNC4lw1gXiteYlg+XuMm/R71igUFARuXirB 6msQ== vn6mr8503814igb.15.1385773820911; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 17:10:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from lundgren-laptop.familysearch.org (c-67-166-105-229.hsd1.ut.comcast.net. [67.166.105.229]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id w4sm53114845igb.5.2013.11.29.17.10.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 29 Nov 2013 17:10:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 18:10:20 -0700 From: Andrew Lundgren User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.0 To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] Failed ignition lock in '70 B. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net The ignition lock in my '70 B has failed. It wasn't turning nicely for quite some time. I had to hold it all the way on and wiggle it to get it to start for the past few months. Finally, the wiggling trick wouldn't work anymore. I took it apart today expecting to have to replace the switch. After doing so with a spare I had I found it would still not work. I turned the switch manually and it started up with no problem. I put the spare switch in the spare lock assembly I have and it started up without any problem. So, I pulled off my ignition lock and put the spare lock and switch in. Everything is working fine now. The shaft that comes though the lock must not be in the right place any longer. However, I do not want to change the key in the car. I don't know that the ignition key is the original, but I also don't have any reason to believe it is not. (I don't know how may owners had it before me.) It is feasible to have the ignition lock rebuilt? Are the rebuild parts available? (I am not inclined to do this one myself.) Thanks! -- Andrew _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 29 20:16:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88CB42FB4 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 20:15:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from pacmmta56.windstream.net.windstream.net (pacmmta56.windstream.net [162.39.147.222]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70470403FE for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 20:15:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([75.91.226.103]) by pacmmta56.windstream.net with pacmmta56 id vfDy1m00A2EUvVF01fDzgn; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:14:00 -0500 a=B9j1Of1Noa+NmaYm8k/mMA==:117 a=B9j1Of1Noa+NmaYm8k/mMA==:17 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=crK2bTrhSLoA:10 a=iAJ9uI7nN_EA:10 a=We2GSUcPNccA:10 a=fOpwdquTRaQA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=Ov22w-J6AAAA:8 a=Fhp_3IJOU_wA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=uh4XXriKY_DsXTjjmjsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=SdvNMj5PkgcA:10 Authentication-Results: pacmmta56.windstream.net ; auth=pass smtp.auth=ccrobins@ktc.com Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 21:13:49 -0600 From: Charley & Peggy Robinson Organization: Computer Helpers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 To: Andrew Lundgren , mgs@autox.team.net References: <52993AFC.5040702@byu.net> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Failed ignition lock in '70 B. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Does your key open the trunk & doors? CR On 11/29/2013 7:10 PM, Andrew Lundgren wrote: > The ignition lock in my '70 B has failed. It wasn't turning nicely > for quite some time. I had to hold it all the way on and wiggle it to > get it to start for the past few months. Finally, the wiggling trick > wouldn't work anymore. I took it apart today expecting to have to > replace the switch. After doing so with a spare I had I found it > would still not work. > > I turned the switch manually and it started up with no problem. I put > the spare switch in the spare lock assembly I have and it started up > without any problem. So, I pulled off my ignition lock and put the > spare lock and switch in. Everything is working fine now. The shaft > that comes though the lock must not be in the right place any longer. > > However, I do not want to change the key in the car. I don't know > that the ignition key is the original, but I also don't have any > reason to believe it is not. (I don't know how may owners had it > before me.) > > It is feasible to have the ignition lock rebuilt? Are the rebuild > parts available? (I am not inclined to do this one myself.) > > Thanks! > -- > Andrew > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins@ktc.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 29 20:21:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9731B42FB2 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 20:21:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C73C42FAC for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 20:21:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vfK91m0010SCNGk56fKHXH; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 03:19:17 +0000 Received: from mail-la0-f54.google.com ([209.85.215.54]) by omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vfHG1m00M1AzeHt3VfHHNk; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 03:17:17 +0000 Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id b8so1114098lan.13 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 19:17:16 -0800 (PST) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=yEZCqtRhzPLqvQcYD27i3zxPZxdtc4N5ffhYfw6KD98=; b=Pr8YHEFRYDFNmhmEad8T1fpbtq9GnkuVnlYy3YgASkmf7IeLxg5+/OLFWdHxDbbyvn mHXCcBbpVlAH3JVzqJgqWPTXckxsLlG/nzfgQEjFV9C+T0oekrNXGdPSzSMg+u9fXReM f3IzyBvqG2vm5TzG3ELM+/lfrAwcndv9tGBXIg8ZNIrJ6iK+XfRHP754AVZVHtXSiZzH q14f2AD5V4yYRtjvynX2RRpVcndgDegPRJn7m0e8KzB+/hIbAd+AHQWRcJ8C9epruZqP ExtqTlLc6rmlMHP/zt7bCHxk636JHddc3f/+SOL9GCtybutQIeoGUEKzp4VYNIYW71ND SGtA== un10mr36198054lbb.7.1385781436084; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 19:17:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.147.167 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 19:17:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.147.167 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 19:17:15 -0800 (PST) References: <52993AFC.5040702@byu.net> <529957ED.4090908@ktc.com> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 20:17:15 -0700 From: Andrew Lundgren To: ccrobins@ktc.com s=q20121106; t=1385781557; bh=yEZCqtRhzPLqvQcYD27i3zxPZxdtc4N5ffhYfw6KD98=; h=Received:Received:Received:MIME-Version:Received:Received:Date: Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Content-Type; b=FHODppNFK2BpTdwLYbP1y5AUJ++F7QeE3yxxE9ctsej4/7EixrWD7/7h2CF/3KOIH uFPXqMHrcCWCfkxoj7Ls1wryLg3q8xDddiSyiJ26/8zMie+/ntUn8h1TkbmiLopyRQ tqNzT30vjHW1MPrqVIs8ocs5L9wCfuJs1KNnOAlqoLKRBuFk9Z8cGS5poFw/vljwEu xZmh62fbWEL9iCbjVAfSIkiSgCNolcjkMa0Z+IASQ+26jvx/bX8t6c6pZSm96JhLjd FUgk6Jh5XaZRHmFl+jYUzYCCPJ6Pq9ZaLIjurSQxARkSznJRmG0BveefSBHefY7NTU k772kF2qV5pVg== Cc: MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] Failed ignition lock in '70 B. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net No, just the ignition. It may match the build sheet, but I don't know. On Nov 29, 2013 8:14 PM, "Charley & Peggy Robinson" wrote: > Does your key open the trunk & doors? > > CR > On 11/29/2013 7:10 PM, Andrew Lundgren wrote: > >> The ignition lock in my '70 B has failed. It wasn't turning nicely for >> quite some time. I had to hold it all the way on and wiggle it to get it >> to start for the past few months. Finally, the wiggling trick wouldn't >> work anymore. I took it apart today expecting to have to replace the >> switch. After doing so with a spare I had I found it would still not work. >> >> I turned the switch manually and it started up with no problem. I put >> the spare switch in the spare lock assembly I have and it started up >> without any problem. So, I pulled off my ignition lock and put the spare >> lock and switch in. Everything is working fine now. The shaft that comes >> though the lock must not be in the right place any longer. >> >> However, I do not want to change the key in the car. I don't know that >> the ignition key is the original, but I also don't have any reason to >> believe it is not. (I don't know how may owners had it before me.) >> >> It is feasible to have the ignition lock rebuilt? Are the rebuild parts >> available? (I am not inclined to do this one myself.) >> >> Thanks! >> -- >> Andrew >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins@ktc.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 29 21:00:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A1742FB4 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 21:00:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from pacmmta54.windstream.net.windstream.net (pacmmta54.windstream.net [162.39.147.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7A040436 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 21:00:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([75.91.226.103]) by pacmmta54.windstream.net with pacmmta54 id vfyY1m00K2EUvVF01fya4v; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 22:58:35 -0500 a=B9j1Of1Noa+NmaYm8k/mMA==:117 a=B9j1Of1Noa+NmaYm8k/mMA==:17 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=crK2bTrhSLoA:10 a=iAJ9uI7nN_EA:10 a=We2GSUcPNccA:10 a=fOpwdquTRaQA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=Ov22w-J6AAAA:8 a=Fhp_3IJOU_wA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=CKsuEVI-ut7CyxmHjIsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=SdvNMj5PkgcA:10 Authentication-Results: pacmmta54.windstream.net ; auth=pass smtp.auth=ccrobins@ktc.com Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2013 21:58:24 -0600 From: Charley & Peggy Robinson Organization: Computer Helpers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.1.1 To: Andrew Lundgren , mgs@autox.team.net References: <52993AFC.5040702@byu.net> <529957ED.4090908@ktc.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Failed ignition lock in '70 B. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net If it doesn't open 'em all it's prolly not the original. CR On 11/29/2013 9:13 PM, Charley & Peggy Robinson wrote: > Does your key open the trunk & doors? > > CR > On 11/29/2013 7:10 PM, Andrew Lundgren wrote: >> The ignition lock in my '70 B has failed. It wasn't turning nicely >> for quite some time. I had to hold it all the way on and wiggle it >> to get it to start for the past few months. Finally, the wiggling >> trick wouldn't work anymore. I took it apart today expecting to have >> to replace the switch. After doing so with a spare I had I found it >> would still not work. >> >> I turned the switch manually and it started up with no problem. I put >> the spare switch in the spare lock assembly I have and it started up >> without any problem. So, I pulled off my ignition lock and put the >> spare lock and switch in. Everything is working fine now. The shaft >> that comes though the lock must not be in the right place any longer. >> >> However, I do not want to change the key in the car. I don't know >> that the ignition key is the original, but I also don't have any >> reason to believe it is not. (I don't know how may owners had it >> before me.) >> >> It is feasible to have the ignition lock rebuilt? Are the rebuild >> parts available? (I am not inclined to do this one myself.) >> >> Thanks! >> -- >> Andrew >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins@ktc.com > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins@ktc.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 30 00:35:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0086742F89 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 00:35:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A1A40441 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 00:35:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vjZD1m0010mlR8UA5jZDUv; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 07:33:13 +0000 Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com ([209.85.223.182]) by omta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vjXC1m0033wk7A98XjXC04; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 07:31:12 +0000 Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id as1so17759942iec.13 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 23:31:12 -0800 (PST) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Wi8lxeWfEuLsAdz7kEGmyLfYS6flivhJQr47EoZqazw=; b=cYCJpyKklVADfMhikH+mYovaPVjccXpTd5BbQc1xWIW28yDeVS/CtY/uNls0Ypn5/I yMDQqR6DMY4O9apcd/RSv1sMBaGim2SRWr++CBJzOu2vq73YPjon82KXm49KzEbt/VOn LbEaxSgCONNjDMYVni84tjX5+qAj8JIuQi4Cwj4ctzzE+3MR18+9fjqjwt/D1qrTOaXv 08il8p7oWUGmNaL7bVUjkwT+Bva3E0KUbFsluGK3h2w9c4kx4vHwNrQy2uKI2oy6s7jM VfSMigQqycwulmQ7GAJPy+dSZu7Owk/Od9DgwW29UawQX09qPJJYVMrYm5zl4+W8fdlL HPuQ== vh1mr33343495icb.24.1385796672035; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 23:31:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.78.104 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 23:31:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.78.104 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Nov 2013 23:31:11 -0800 (PST) References: <52993AFC.5040702@byu.net> <529957ED.4090908@ktc.com> <52996260.7040206@ktc.com> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 00:31:11 -0700 From: Andrew Lundgren To: ccrobins@ktc.com s=q20121106; t=1385796793; bh=Wi8lxeWfEuLsAdz7kEGmyLfYS6flivhJQr47EoZqazw=; h=Received:Received:Received:MIME-Version:Received:Received:Date: Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Content-Type; b=msFnCoXHjF05Owhvehgf7KrwGsi3hKX4JehVSLzuToTLVbXHylZw3Nr3onHRCrFq3 CD9gPsajs0/5/2Q1RBgSYeHLvcBOOfhZERi+T8/woks7B6sRgwKDSI0ftL2vu05qIw yHodUWCyXsQ9caIZs/LrFeZFTh5J7Xm4REMQrw1pYA9fbdPjyVsbJZI+GIG0IOoh93 SdTaTZ4rOUwi6R+WB7bu8PNDr82mYF3F1X38ssRzdWKk0XZs1cOfs9peJaIrRObBeu UEeULWvKTnq1akKa0+zHv/IHys4UJ8Zx+gAGp+IftesT/U3oJoGlplbZKNriJNPbQV aVJQYPmIFoNaw== Cc: MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] Failed ignition lock in '70 B. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I'm not sure that is right. The keys on the sets of '70 locks that I have are so different they won't even go in the key holes. My '78 has three different keys, all original from the build sheet, and they are very different as well. If it doesn't open 'em all it's prolly not the original. CR On 11/29/2013 9:13 PM, Charley & Peggy Robinson wrote: > Does your key open the trunk & doors? > > CR > On 11/29/2013 7:10 PM, Andrew Lundgren wrote: > >> The ignition lock in my '70 B has failed. It wasn't turning nicely for >> quite some time. I had to hold it all the way on and wiggle it to get it >> to start for the past few months. Finally, the wiggling trick wouldn't >> work anymore. I took it apart today expecting to have to replace the >> switch. After doing so with a spare I had I found it would still not work. >> >> I turned the switch manually and it started up with no problem. I put the >> spare switch in the spare lock assembly I have and it started up without >> any problem. So, I pulled off my ignition lock and put the spare lock and >> switch in. Everything is working fine now. The shaft that comes though >> the lock must not be in the right place any longer. >> >> However, I do not want to change the key in the car. I don't know that >> the ignition key is the original, but I also don't have any reason to >> believe it is not. (I don't know how may owners had it before me.) >> >> It is feasible to have the ignition lock rebuilt? Are the rebuild parts >> available? (I am not inclined to do this one myself.) >> >> Thanks! >> -- >> Andrew >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins@ktc.com >> > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins@ktc.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 30 02:21:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBFA542FC9 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 02:21:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-4.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-4.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA27042FB2 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 02:21:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-4-imp with bizsmtp id vlKc1m00D4LtS4201lKcQ7; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 09:19:36 +0000 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=iAJ9uI7nN_EA:10 a=CFaQbSEpXUkA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=Fhp_3IJOU_wA:10 a=ZW0t32fu2P5tLXNOU2QA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 From: "PaulHunt73" To: "Andrew Lundgren" , References: <52993AFC.5040702@byu.net> <529957ED.4090908@ktc.com> <52996260.7040206@ktc.com> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 09:19:22 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Failed ignition lock in '70 B. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Surely the key that operated steering locks never opened any other locks, it's several times bigger for a start and a completely different design. But I'm confused. You say: "Everything is working fine now. The shaft that comes though the lock must not be in the right place any longer." The first statement says you have fixed it, the second implies there is still a problem. If the key isn't turning it's the key/lock combination that is almost certainly the problem, rarely the switch. If that turns OK when removed from the lock, but the lock is still not turning, then definitely so. In which case unless you know the key number and can get a replacement you have very little option but to replace the lock and the key. Even with a new key if it is the lock that is worn a new key may not help. Another option is possibly to dismantle the lock and disable the tumblers, if you don't mind being anything being able to turn it. But I can only imagine that being considered if originality is your overriding concern. But having gone that far - if it's possible - then a locksmith may well be able to replace the tumblers so suit your existing key. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > If it doesn't open 'em all it's prolly not the original. > >> On 11/29/2013 7:10 PM, Andrew Lundgren wrote: >>> The ignition lock in my '70 B has failed. It wasn't turning nicely for >>> quite some time.... _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 30 11:07:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6377D43000 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:07:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7882D42FC0 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:06:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vtaJ1m00416AWCUA5u51uR; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 18:05:01 +0000 Received: from mail-ie0-x22a.google.com ([IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22a]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vu501m00E09Eadw8Su50Rf; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 18:05:00 +0000 Received: by mail-ie0-f170.google.com with SMTP id qd12so18228932ieb.1 for ; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 10:04:59 -0800 (PST) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=nq8aUi3wGtlkxJRp4AoziHQf9b/P6Ytp5kE1Vf+n7OQ=; b=C7aXGzkVyMbtjF2Utu7jc6Lwk2j0Cqpbi6fl3wOo+TaYmk7bDRF2YVZ5qPHBnuyFG3 Fcgm1z30UzHsOqYsT3q9s2zmtdO+4YDu15so70dCurYPZ2jcFI8ENFzGC04o937EdBN1 u4RPRd0RU49XelxLmIcCO34Qim5X+nbBfQpTNkVr5RiYU/805j8UFSIzcmXFZlMomevK YD8xV490Bhvb7Juqx8gmQVCzcSS5L4AKUcBwTU1pL1WYT05nQPEXy+wEJs4BbAgXxYLK xd8BDBgLC6qXUXw0V1jfxk+SRCZRxgO5NncLCiTJBVlczhKWuB/2DXGIBBueuS3akyR0 uolA== Sat, 30 Nov 2013 10:04:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.78.104 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 10:04:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.78.104 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 10:04:59 -0800 (PST) References: <52993AFC.5040702@byu.net> <529957ED.4090908@ktc.com> <52996260.7040206@ktc.com> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 11:04:59 -0700 From: Andrew Lundgren To: PaulHunt73 s=q20121106; t=1385834701; bh=nq8aUi3wGtlkxJRp4AoziHQf9b/P6Ytp5kE1Vf+n7OQ=; h=Received:Received:Received:MIME-Version:Received:Received:Date: Message-ID:Subject:From:To:Content-Type; b=j62YcO0QZ7ty5GFtCeu1J2mM0UAejY5YVjT9zG6b+pALJBcY9HjHi9a9baGl+U8nL IBMS9jM3uTwZry7zHHU365FG8DkANRUMDzHfGfteFbW2F7jm0AY1+LmlLK+CNA2YYp Oq179c1cOZViAMOekq1tv5b1CBjWjQhi4wfHMFNlisS2MwJaF787GKYVJ25RQPbI+C ovhMiS9VyGXRlLcOtlqpOhX0aYfl1MbVIUyvnQJOqIqkYiK/WbICRoAolRKymFNMgF 7dnxQZMEQbVt0KDZHA+czFddhTMrQdJAv/FEggMsvXiNoixrEPvvvaBA4k5faKC9nK VCgRs4AK+oS5A== Cc: MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] Failed ignition lock in '70 B. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry for the confusion Paul. I changed the ignition lock with a spare I acquired a few years ago. The car starts with out any problem now. However, in changing the lock, I have also changed the key. That is something I didn't want to do. So I was looking for advice on repairing what I think is the original lock. Andrew On Nov 30, 2013 2:19 AM, "PaulHunt73" wrote: > Surely the key that operated steering locks never opened any other locks, > it's several times bigger for a start and a completely different design. > > But I'm confused. You say: > > "Everything is working fine now. The shaft that comes though the lock > must not be in the right place any longer." > > The first statement says you have fixed it, the second implies there is > still a problem. > > If the key isn't turning it's the key/lock combination that is almost > certainly the problem, rarely the switch. If that turns OK when removed > from the lock, but the lock is still not turning, then definitely so. In > which case unless you know the key number and can get a replacement you > have very little option but to replace the lock and the key. Even with a > new key if it is the lock that is worn a new key may not help. Another > option is possibly to dismantle the lock and disable the tumblers, if you > don't mind being anything being able to turn it. But I can only imagine > that being considered if originality is your overriding concern. But > having gone that far - if it's possible - then a locksmith may well be able > to replace the tumblers so suit your existing key. > > PaulH. > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> If it doesn't open 'em all it's prolly not the original. >> >> On 11/29/2013 7:10 PM, Andrew Lundgren wrote: >>> >>>> The ignition lock in my '70 B has failed. It wasn't turning nicely for >>>> quite some time.... _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net