From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 8 13:07:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE8542584597 for ; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 13:07:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77C22580884; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 12:43:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BE32C0482; Sat, 8 Nov 2014 12:46:57 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 2014 12:46:56 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: mgs , MG Subject: [Mgs] Team.Net status Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net While mucking about with the server last night I shook loose a few thousand mailman admin messages that had gotten stuck in limbo. What fun. Most of them are of no consequence, but there are some legitimate requests for assistance with list issues from subscribers. So if you sent in something to mailman@... and never heard back from me, well, be patient, it will take me a while to get through it all. And I think the reason the messages were held back was due to a typo I made in a configuration file. With mistakes like that, no wonder I haven't gotten a raise in years :-) mjb. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 9 19:02:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6B5C2584C0D for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 19:02:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f171.google.com (mail-ob0-f171.google.com [209.85.214.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9FC2580092 for ; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 18:46:11 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ob0-f171.google.com with SMTP id wp18so4984012obc.2 for ; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 17:49:41 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VZYz4GN9Lt9CCP7V3u7TWiAnlc1fiHUNy8Ek3N+RCJM=; b=N52AMXEqBwnOedXtjlsjSRDH2LacsQNELIrKUrHFyldeIakCM4GJYKWKAL3Sudmnhe AoryKYf1hY+cOwNYJtMzHNGwZXNY7pBY2wIex0DiaYcVnXZM9bbVFCDeZxVcStI6506s WF+Nepa849xlWARpV8D4XyEbzKiBGRg0zlY2DK8eIkRWF6Jd4SbzQcNxSxKXt8EBBs9J Jp8U4gGcp2so+8ApdCd4M/2a23+jonFzeAI/bACVGpLR4xwYDTmV2SswdLfKZ5H2cDMW 2iqGf5+w2dOZn47HqFlnSYfIX2HX1qVrgwMGVg7LXE8fxECFxlRWI4IYkdQV8iC7DvYI z7+A== tf10mr24068606oeb.3.1415584181420; Sun, 09 Nov 2014 17:49:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.236.232 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Nov 2014 17:49:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2014 17:49:41 -0800 From: Simon Matthews To: MGS Subject: [Mgs] Door pull cable attachment on MGA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I bought a new door pull some time ago and now I want to fit it. When I bought the car, it had a home-made door pull, so I don't have a model to see how it should be fitted. The PO had used some wire that was looped through the hole in the door pull lever and then crimped back to itself. The new cable looks like a bowden cable, with knobs attached to both ends. Both of these knobs are inserted into a fitting, which could be fastened onto the door at the front end, but there does not seem to be an obvious way to attach it to the lever that operates the latch. I suppose a short bolt and nut could be used, but this doesn't seem right. I have taken some photos, which can be seen here: https://plus.google.com/photos/102529760702182030672/albums/6079886356814013233 How should the cable be attached? Simon _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 10 12:19:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A101B25846D9 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:19:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.20.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6798925807F5 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:14:25 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 17202 invoked by uid 0); 10 Nov 2014 19:17:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy9.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2014 19:17:55 -0000 Received: from box522.bluehost.com ([74.220.219.122]) by CMOut01 with id DvHq1p00k2f2jeq01vHt5V; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:17:54 -0700 a=GsOEXm/OWkKvwdLVJsfwcA==:117 a=GsOEXm/OWkKvwdLVJsfwcA==:17 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zo8hvysWAAAA:8 a=PH27ZC4J-VgA:10 a=Eu_5lz0N4RsA:10 a=1XWaLZrsAAAA:8 a=i7W1iIG-qJfJMh7JrL4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 d=mgaguru.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:From:To:Date; bh=jJVJ5ZNZk5djJhhQMsvs8u5Ygc6BPaM7bH6wqwuAxrg=; b=vtOXZ03oKN2x/hETRY+me55CkUd05FDSO0tMWI/QAr8Mx4HJlZHP/5unutSvOfvSIZjzjyzzpPRwOff6bEsVE1Nu6kq3prJc2WTN3mBO0fK1jEIKzWAph5bPY1EofqzN; Received: from [64.134.6.185] (port=49158 helo=BarneysPC.mgaguru.com) by box522.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1XnuTH-0000BR-1A; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:17:51 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 14:17:13 -0500 To: Simon Matthews ,MGS From: Barney Gaylord mail.com> References: {sentby:smtp auth 64.134.6.185 authed with barneymg@mgaguru.com} Subject: Re: [Mgs] Door pull cable attachment on MGA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Your Bowden type replacement jacketed cable is as original. It was originally attached to the latch assembly with a shoulder rivet. Procedure to replace is to pry open the square P-clip, R&R the cable and squeeze the P-clip closed agian. Since your latch is missing the shoulder rivet, you can assemble it with a #10 screw and self-locking nut, like this: http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/body/pics/door_latch1.jpg At 05:49 PM 11/9/2014 -0800, Simon Matthews wrote: >I bought a new door pull some time ago and now I want to fit it. > >When I bought the car, it had a home-made door pull, so I don't have >a model to see how it should be fitted. > >The PO had used some wire that was looped through the hole in the >door pull lever and then crimped back to itself. > >The new cable looks like a bowden cable, with knobs attached to both >ends. Both of these knobs are inserted into a fitting, which could >be fastened onto the door at the front end, but there does not seem >to be an obvious way to attach it to the lever that operates the >latch. I suppose a short bolt and nut could be used, but this >doesn't seem right. > >I have taken some photos, which can be seen here: >https://plus.google.com/photos/102529760702182030672/albums/6079886356814013233 > >How should the cable be attached? >.... _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 10 12:48:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF80258473D for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:48:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C87025807F5 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 12:42:53 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id nt9so6790029obb.41 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:46:23 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xRHNdUIv8xJ4byn7yxIrkF+gtK4Yomj41ts6dMLHLAE=; b=LgU8GYRvgtEpNl/d2YifNBrX31HjE8/KW6UfUJBlz0yMpicB7EqQ35gkfr/evvVIDc HE6isdtBS2s/bX9JPI3G2KAWuur8ggyoN+x30UD0hd8YnMT6mRjfD/9qadrik9PY4rHx 1WgN/+cZLA0SXP5wyHhppbStD78xM4B3O1V1C9aM4EJyclJTqdASvv3wTC4swk9S3HVv KTxoY2IV/yelSBLkvv7uqyhzJTuf3xps6aBr6XA18SIEnvLVPkg11ke6hxHFv+U7iEXK 1slwTf7W8YgVDqLqP3tkG2fNpDHLzfqGvfvFe/t4dWU5WI3MWBIRdx5X99Ao6T5r7Z8I Jaqg== w186mr2206153oib.104.1415648783704; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:46:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.236.232 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:46:23 -0800 (PST) References: <54610f64.c78e420a.54e3.3a59SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 11:46:23 -0800 From: Simon Matthews To: Barney Gaylord , MGS Subject: Re: [Mgs] Door pull cable attachment on MGA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Barney, Thanks for the information. If I understand it correctly, in the original installation, the P-clip would be able to rotate on the end of the lever. Your suggested approach won't allow rotation. Does it matter? How about a screw with two nuts arranged tightly against each other, but not tight against the P-Clip and lever? Simon On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Barney Gaylord wrote: > > Your Bowden type replacement jacketed cable is as original. It was > originally attached to the latch assembly with a shoulder rivet. Procedure > to replace is to pry open the square P-clip, R&R the cable and squeeze the > P-clip closed agian. Since your latch is missing the shoulder rivet, you > can assemble it with a #10 screw and self-locking nut, like this: > http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/body/pics/door_latch1.jpg > > > > > At 05:49 PM 11/9/2014 -0800, Simon Matthews wrote: >> >> I bought a new door pull some time ago and now I want to fit it. >> >> When I bought the car, it had a home-made door pull, so I don't have a >> model to see how it should be fitted. >> >> The PO had used some wire that was looped through the hole in the door >> pull lever and then crimped back to itself. >> >> The new cable looks like a bowden cable, with knobs attached to both ends. >> Both of these knobs are inserted into a fitting, which could be fastened >> onto the door at the front end, but there does not seem to be an obvious way >> to attach it to the lever that operates the latch. I suppose a short bolt >> and nut could be used, but this doesn't seem right. >> >> I have taken some photos, which can be seen here: >> >> https://plus.google.com/photos/102529760702182030672/albums/6079886356814013233 >> >> How should the cable be attached? >> .... _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 10 16:19:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05178258488B for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:19:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy10-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy10-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.20.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 899CD25807F5 for ; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:09:25 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 2858 invoked by uid 0); 10 Nov 2014 23:12:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy10.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2014 23:12:55 -0000 Received: from box522.bluehost.com ([74.220.219.122]) by cmgw3 with id E5Cr1p00n2f2jeq015CuGv; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 22:12:55 -0700 a=GsOEXm/OWkKvwdLVJsfwcA==:117 a=GsOEXm/OWkKvwdLVJsfwcA==:17 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zo8hvysWAAAA:8 a=PH27ZC4J-VgA:10 a=7E_lWWxnZUEA:10 a=1XWaLZrsAAAA:8 a=WiMamYr9bVjVgdhPTpcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 d=mgaguru.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:From:To:Date; bh=KIlaxvQ2MzwX2xK4zeSr2WUKeeco9g8sVqJ8zU1wcSc=; b=QpgWfePxjaNKTKf2f5bNi2f3TUZaV+drTaWDax+oUwN84qUNp7xsRmxjk07GzBUNv7SXAjaF37SgojeGw6eJjHOpIspVUljLgY8Unb12MojpzHDizMwbOKOkA5C0Qzaz; Received: from [64.134.6.243] (port=50483 helo=BarneysPC.mgaguru.com) by box522.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Xny8i-0002Kj-2A; Mon, 10 Nov 2014 16:12:52 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2014 18:12:29 -0500 To: Simon Matthews ,MGS From: Barney Gaylord mail.com> References: <54610f64.c78e420a.54e3.3a59SMTPIN_ADDED_MISSING@mx.google.com> {sentby:smtp auth 64.134.6.243 authed with barneymg@mgaguru.com} Subject: Re: [Mgs] Door pull cable attachment on MGA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net That's why you need to use a self-locking nut so you can leave it a little loose to allow rotation. Two plain nuts jammed together would work as well. At 11:46 AM 11/10/2014 -0800, Simon Matthews wrote: >.... >Thanks for the information. If I understand it correctly, in the >original installation, the P-clip would be able to rotate on the end >of the lever. Your suggested approach won't allow rotation. Does it >matter? How about a screw with two nuts arranged tightly against each >other, but not tight against the P-Clip and lever? >.... >On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Barney Gaylord wrote: > > Your Bowden type replacement jacketed cable is as original. It was > > originally attached to the latch assembly with a shoulder rivet. Procedure > > to replace is to pry open the square P-clip, R&R the cable and squeeze the > > P-clip closed agian. Since your latch is missing the shoulder rivet, you > > can assemble it with a #10 screw and self-locking nut, like this: > > http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/body/pics/door_latch1.jpg > >> At 05:49 PM 11/9/2014 -0800, Simon Matthews wrote: > >> > >> I bought a new door pull some time ago and now I want to fit it. > >> > >> When I bought the car, it had a home-made door pull, so I don't have a > >> model to see how it should be fitted. > >> > >> The PO had used some wire that was looped through the hole in the door > >> pull lever and then crimped back to itself. > >> > >> The new cable looks like a bowden cable, with knobs attached to both ends. > >> Both of these knobs are inserted into a fitting, which could be fastened > >> onto the door at the front end, but there does not seem to be an > obvious way > >> to attach it to the lever that operates the latch. I suppose a short bolt > >> and nut could be used, but this doesn't seem right. > >> > >> I have taken some photos, which can be seen here: > >> > >> > https://plus.google.com/photos/102529760702182030672/albums/6079886356814013233 > >> > >> How should the cable be attached? > >> .... _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Nov 17 12:04:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F242580B32 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 12:04:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from pacmmta56.windstream.net (pacmmta56.windstream.net [162.39.147.222]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BA125806B8 for ; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 12:04:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([72.172.26.134]) by pacmmta56.windstream.net with pacmmta56 id Gj851p00p2tcApk01j86bD; Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:08:07 -0500 a=Qb+g33/ww7u5LpjK6dq6sw==:117 a=Qb+g33/ww7u5LpjK6dq6sw==:17 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=tcnv99F1KMcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=Ov22w-J6AAAA:8 a=u4hka01lOVbI2EcHrGgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=DmXkLgqvq5cA:10 a=Wrzy6xbBZy8A:10 a=JqVtaaaPF8MA:10 Authentication-Results: pacmmta56.windstream.net ; auth=pass smtp.auth=ccrobins@ktc.com Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 13:07:52 -0600 From: Charley & Peggy Robinson Organization: Computer Helpers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Rick Lindsay , "mgs@autox.team.net List" References: <32u5mu7lld7mm7l668yv8703.1416138492070@email.android.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] There and Back Again Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Rick, Good to hear from you. Er, I didn't know Hobbits had tails. :-) CR On 11/16/2014 5:48 AM, Rick Lindsay wrote: > Hello Friends, > > No, this isn't a Hobbit's Tail, but it is an explanation. Even almost on topic! > > > Motor on, > > -rick > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net