We ge= t all of the Wheeler Dealer episodes. And yes, it's stupid that they brag a= bout making money on the cars without including labor. I watched the AmphiC= ar episode

a f= ew nights ago, where Edd had to replace most of the lower body work and inn= er structure with new metal. He commented that he had asked a welding shop = what they

woul= d have charged, and they said 10,000 pounds. That was not included in the c= ost of refurbishing the car which they sold for a 'profit' of 5,000 pounds.= That said, I do

like Mike's enthusiasm about the various cars, and they do buy and repai= r some cool stuff, especially the stuff they get from the UK and Europe.

Dan D

'76B, '65B

Central NJ USA

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From: PaulHunt73 vi= a Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
= To: jim williams <sportsix63@yahoo.com>; mgs@autox.team.ne= t
Sent: Saturday, Feb= ruary 14, 2015 11:43 AM
Subjec= t: Re: [Mgs] UK List Users

=20 =20

Is your first question serious? Yes, it is&n= bsp;'really=20 big', as in the most widely-watched factual motoring program in the world.&= nbsp;=20 Whether you appreciate the humour is another matter. Some of it is=20 infantile, some boring, but some hysterically funny. Some of their=20 specials have been first rate.

<= /div>

Actors? Well, yes. As Clarkson has sai= d "We have=20 received the award for best unscripted scripted television program=20 ever".

<= /div>

Clarkson is an arrogant idiot, he knows nothing ab= out cars, he=20 is just good with words.

<= /div>

Hammond and May seem to be decent blokes and have = many other=20 programs - usually serious and with a scientific bent - to their=20 names.

<= /div>

5th Gear is ve= ry staid, I can't say I'm that interested in=20 whether one hot hatch goes round a track 1/10th second faster than=20 another. Watching two people having a conversation in a cafe (if they= =20 still do that) is boring.

Wheeler Dealers is completely different in that it ta= kes a=20 classic and 'restores' it for resale - but you probably know that. Th= e=20 concept of them 'making a profit' when they don't take any labour cost= s=20 into account is laughable, but I watch it for the technical interest. = =20 America may only get the ones that involve America, but the vast majority o= f=20 their output has been UK-based with some cars having been=20 obtained elsewhere in Europe. Maybe America isn't intereste= d in=20 those.

Classic Car Rescue was appalling and by far the worst= of the=20 lot. Every week a manufactured 'disaster', like cutting through the l= eaf=20 springs of an MGB, lifting it by the body, then shock-horror the axle falls= =20 off.

Chasing Classic Cars is a rare 'all American' program= we get=20 in the UK, mostly interesting, although watching auctions does nothing for= =20 me.

There may be others but I'm not aware of them. = I watched=20 American Chopper for years, sad that Senior couldn't cope with Junior's gro= wing=20 design and construction expertise. Or with any of his offspring = for=20 that matter. Also sad (but inevitable) that it was replaced by = Fast=20 and Loud, although as Junior said "Load and Annoying" was more appropriate,= I=20 had enough of them in the 'bike-offs'.

PaulH.

----- Original Message -----

Just a few curious= =20 questions

Is Top Gear a reall= y big program in=20 England?

Are the actors well= thought=20 of?

How about 5th Gear?=

Wheeler Dealers

We have the show ev= ery Weds.=20 night.

The actors attend a= lot of US=20 shows.

Is it just made for= the US=20 market?

I think the other o= ne is Classic Car=20 Rescue

Based in the UK but= one of the actors is=20 from Canada.

Last: are there any= shows in the UK that=20 are based in the US?

I'm talking about c= ar shows.

_______________________________________________

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------=_Part_1159695_180691366.1423943911167-- --===============6593827783678173609== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============6593827783678173609==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 14 14:11:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 189D725844F4 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 14:11:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from eta.look.ca (eta.look.ca [216.66.192.8]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495E92584487 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 14:11:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from e120-pool-d89a4cc2.brdbnd.telnetcommunications.com ([216.154.76.194] helo=Windows7.look.ca) by eta.look.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YMk46-000609-QJ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 16:15:50 -0500 Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 16:15:44 -0500 To: jim williams , "mgs@autox.team.net" References: <9s88mrn19rcevhbbnwfgl45a.1423938234994@email.android.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Curious UK Info From: Barrie Robinson via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Jim, Tongue in check about Clarkson. He isn't doing what he's doing because he is ignorant. He also handles a mean motor car !!!!!!! At 01:23 PM 2/14/2015 -0500, jim williams via Mgs wrote: >Do the guys really drive the cars? >Here in the U.S. we never see programs where the cars are driven >flat out. I was surprised to hear about Clarkson's lack of knowledge. >I agree that 5th Gear is one hot hatch after another. Years ago I >thought it was pretty good. Wheeler Dealers does have a lot of US >cars being worked on by Ed. >One of our better shows is Fantom Works. I went to see their >operation and they are very much the real thing. >_______________________________________________ > >Mgs@autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrie@look.ca Regards, Barrie Barrie Robinson Go with the flow - but paddle hard MGB GT V8 in concours condition Aston Martin DB 2/4 MkII under restoration www.AMFClub.com www.britcot.com www.vectisgroup.ca barrie@look.ca Barrie, Ontario 705-721-9060 _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 14 14:31:10 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293632580890 for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 14:31:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail16.tpgi.com.au (mail16.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B98F258015A for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 14:30:56 -0700 (MST) date=Sun, 15 Feb 2015 08:35:33 +1100; auth=/X0J75t1ChDYY67dqz+6Qd4jQKMnvLVol4kYJX68JBs= Received: from [192.168.0.8] (58-6-197-149.dyn.iinet.net.au [58.6.197.149]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail16.tpgi.com.au (envelope-from arundell@ghs.com.au) (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id t1ELZUQZ001781 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sun, 15 Feb 2015 08:35:33 +1100 References: <9s88mrn19rcevhbbnwfgl45a.1423938234994@email.android.com> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 07:35:31 +1000 To: Barrie Robinson Cc: "mgs@autox.team.net" , jim williams Subject: Re: [Mgs] Curious UK Info From: Murray Arundell via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Clarkson earns north of four million quid a year, so it's safe to assume he's smarter than all of us..... Murray Arundell Sent from my iPad > On 15 Feb 2015, at 07:15, Barrie Robinson via Mgs wrote: > > Jim, > > Tongue in check about Clarkson. He isn't doing what he's doing because he is ignorant. He also handles a mean motor car !!!!!!! > > > > At 01:23 PM 2/14/2015 -0500, jim williams via Mgs wrote: > >> Do the guys really drive the cars? >> Here in the U.S. we never see programs where the cars are driven flat out. I was surprised to hear about Clarkson's lack of knowledge. >> I agree that 5th Gear is one hot hatch after another. Years ago I thought it was pretty good. Wheeler Dealers does have a lot of US cars being worked on by Ed. >> One of our better shows is Fantom Works. I went to see their operation and they are very much the real thing. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrie@look.ca > > Regards, > Barrie > > Barrie Robinson Go with the flow - but paddle hard > MGB GT V8 in concours condition > Aston Martin DB 2/4 MkII under restoration > www.AMFClub.com > www.britcot.com > www.vectisgroup.ca > barrie@look.ca > Barrie, Ontario > 705-721-9060 > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/arundell@ghs.com.au > _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 14 16:02:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8304625844EA for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 16:02:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f50.google.com (mail-wg0-f50.google.com [74.125.82.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22FB2580212; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 16:01:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wg0-f50.google.com with SMTP id l2so23028561wgh.9; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 15:06:34 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=8CAhjTYPHK8ElcwRj8N6EnQIN42HK4tdVkdIV/MfJMQ=; b=nU6+BTm16QM8YaKfxkv0pc/j8ZyBEfpk2hquiXU85NjPDnf/xwlPUxZI6YGNvIRjNK reqRaISid8/alit/z4v3QmDLCtBDMFuUTsh/XHQlcgODh/j/lpCB+DBku29YhyN7iMSk 7MFWRrdnDk+d1UyvSXmOMuUJSh0h142OU+gAe5oo+W0fpTXa/OEb0GwqOFzBgzlU1149 1WW0PBfiYB+Uhdbj5SGnd2ZJd3bW2LVKjR2iTtQE0mR/MKmGxFD6+UQGD+DKGh+2ThPw DQuzO7LtBzny/vDTMgJI53wJ/UyqUvTmKvkhmFS6BYK8tEe5o3GknzF222EDjl9aqH9y 0AeQ== Sat, 14 Feb 2015 15:06:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.27.76.136 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 15:06:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 17:06:34 -0600 To: "mg-t@autox.team.net" , "mgs@autox.team.net List" Subject: [Mgs] Back on the TD From: Richard Lindsay via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Friends, My friends fire damaged Dellortos are fully restored, to the tune of about $400 in repair parts, but they are done. I'll ship them over to him Monday. But that's not why I am writing to you. Today I took a few pictures of the recent work on the TD. Work on this car is just now restarting. Progress went on hold while I restored a Volvo 1800ES and bought a Lotus Esprit S2. But that car is not why I am writing to you either. This car is. http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1787e.jpg This picture is grainy because it was taken in low light. Sorry. This red paint in the following pictures, produces a bluish cast because its illuminated with an electronic flash. I guess that's fluoresence from the UV in the flash. So, in each of these picture, I have corrected the color temperature to the best of my ability. In doing so for the paint, sometimes the other bits go a little wrong. Specifically, one of the last pictures includes the tan facia, and it looks too yellow. Here is what I am actually trying to show - the beautiful fender welt. I love the way little details make big differences. http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1788e.jpg And before anyone beats me up too badly for the orange peal in the tub paint, please remember I painted this car in my home garage! Here's a tail light temporarily installed, but not yet wired. http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1789e.jpg Running board welt next. http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1790e.jpg I have the new treads, both aluminum and rubber, but that has to wait. Here's a fresh new door handle. Notice the new black cowl bumper. Again, little details. http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1791e.jpg Now, just an ongoing work picture. http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1792e.jpg The headlight supports should be body color but I forgot to paint them. Therefore, they are now black. Radiator grill color matches the interior leather. Just another couple of looks. http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1793e.jpg http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1794e.jpg Thanks again for the bonnet latch alignment advice you shared. And finally, here's the picture I referenced above, with the off color adjusted dash. http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1795e.jpg And that's it for now. Lots left to do but reassembly is so much more fun that scraping away grease and addressing rust! Oh, and just for completeness, here's the Lotus. http://aubard.us/Esprit/IMAG0211.jpg Regards, -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 14 16:04:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E46525845FE for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 16:04:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from cajat.pair.com (cajat.pair.com [209.68.5.126]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2AAD258069E for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 16:04:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from dolphin (pool-71-169-134-14.burl.east.myfairpoint.net [71.169.134.14]) by cajat.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 79B0BD533C for ; Sat, 14 Feb 2015 18:09:05 -0500 (EST) To: References: <9s88mrn19rcevhbbnwfgl45a.1423938234994@email.android.com>

Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 18:09:02 -0500 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AdBInjG5IWt1OkarSfuYovd7CQLZpAADBkPg Subject: Re: [Mgs] Curious UK Info From: Stephen West-Fisher via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net The mistake is in considering Top Gear a car show - it is really an entertainment program based upon cars. The early Wheeler Dealers were great, but as they became known over here they are losing what made them so good - fixing up cars that anybody could afford. I don't believe the show is really about turning a profit - but that you too, can buy and fixup a cool car. It's too bad that Mark Evans quit doing automotive things, although I have enjoyed his more recent programs as well. Steve -- Stephen West-Fisher N4IK -----Original Message----- From: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Murray Arundell via Mgs Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 4:36 PM To: Barrie Robinson Cc: mgs@autox.team.net; jim williams Subject: Re: [Mgs] Curious UK Info Clarkson earns north of four million quid a year, so it's safe to assume he's smarter than all of us..... Murray Arundell Sent from my iPad > On 15 Feb 2015, at 07:15, Barrie Robinson via Mgs wrote: > > Jim, > > Tongue in check about Clarkson. He isn't doing what he's doing because he is ignorant. He also handles a mean motor car !!!!!!! > > > > At 01:23 PM 2/14/2015 -0500, jim williams via Mgs wrote: > >> Do the guys really drive the cars? >> Here in the U.S. we never see programs where the cars are driven flat out. I was surprised to hear about Clarkson's lack of knowledge. >> I agree that 5th Gear is one hot hatch after another. Years ago I thought it was pretty good. Wheeler Dealers does have a lot of US cars being worked on by Ed. >> One of our better shows is Fantom Works. I went to see their operation and they are very much the real thing. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation >> $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrie@look.ca > > Regards, > Barrie > > Barrie Robinson Go with the flow - but paddle hard > MGB GT V8 in concours condition > Aston Martin DB 2/4 MkII under restoration www.AMFClub.com > www.britcot.com www.vectisgroup.ca barrie@look.ca Barrie, Ontario > 705-721-9060 > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/arundell@ghs.com.au > _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/steve@coastaldatasystems.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 15 02:41:11 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D026125844F0 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 02:41:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1B025801A8 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 02:40:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-10-imp with bizsmtp id sZlU1p01k4LtS4201ZlUDh; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 09:45:29 +0000 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=fkVVKGmTvaYnvU0tRo8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 To: References: <9s88mrn19rcevhbbnwfgl45a.1423938234994@email.android.com> Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 09:36:25 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Curious UK Info From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net They certainly do, and flat out, although whether they drive the cars the whole way themselves on the long-distance specials or not is another matter. The Argentina episode was interesting, but only for being able to see just how large the support organisation was when they were run out of the country. Other than that, and the few shots of spectacular scenery, it was boring. It took Clarkson several series before someone taught him how to handle oversteer on a rear-wheel drive car and understeer on a front-wheel drive on their test circuit. Before that every outing of the former ended with him flooring the throttle after he had lost it and pirouetting in a cloud of tyre smoke. The latter he just slid off. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jim williams via Mgs" To: Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 6:23 PM Subject: [Mgs] Curious UK Info > > Do the guys really drive the cars? > Here in the U.S. we never see programs where the cars are driven flat out. > I was surprised to hear about Clarkson's lack of knowledge. > I agree that 5th Gear is one hot hatch after another. Years ago I thought > it was pretty good. Wheeler Dealers does have a lot of US cars being > worked on by Ed. > One of our better shows is Fantom Works. I went to see their operation and > they are very much the real thing. > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/paulhunt73@virginmedia.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 15 06:34:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB598258055A for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 06:34:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.162]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF750258055A for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 06:33:07 -0700 (MST) t=1424007468; bh=UvDQVRgOlC7LVEFyzuw6gGSwFQl9+Z78AA4H5XQ06Hk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=kNhaHHaGMHsqGMCrY82uCe4vKvLRNA8rLI9sbl0PJSn717V4cpjDkxWKcuUAPccfJ/DB9PCm+G0lqgtyWeXbt5b5/38C+oIftZYB+5r/+0+PVodct+H6XMS40icktf3aOQJaDOQeMngeSPKg2WS/df9SDXeX1QxUnTq/Zb6H334ATUDWCBE6OUxaRDk1Z4vuUs3BAKl6y0VxPaNoqOmjVgQcNq4Gz2cHx5wOJdZ/yNbcVCiWLdYC9pcnzQ2X1OIDZrWDP4EUglI2ReQtPocAafuqeka9kcLu0xtBIg6SX09Lmm/Zh5K9PQ8ZMODV60EQZ9jQYhBWyF+Zu9hOtOyTrw== Received: from [66.196.81.171] by nm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2015 13:37:48 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.195] by tm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2015 13:37:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Feb 2015 13:37:48 -0000 ltqHMn8aRbnbABLxFbQJ8uH4Y6jqsiqa92QCVqMszbImx2r2sYrYLg0Cs4wr_f1DUhz16DG85kik PFeJn1mY7rHBLuUD9Ah5j7KauSY4JJ5o.w4gi.9y89SMU8gn4BbMstmqriG93HXiUK12m92QyQ0_ 5Zi_FdWSlyq4CK8ucBaRaEK52euxyRxl0kf4v9.YXN2LB4vgcRk4SJygFK2ygtXFd3EC6GuLKIEh dVKZeoVELUDnllxaUwn2pl4GCc6MfDeJ27YVoI7nJqZ1qPZfuJna2TXcIxP6_KoPzjgktr.Us8cj 7p5AbfRkhfzfbTVdgj8xQDdL_t14R9RWCUk5ilThlj6SPMjJQ1AKC.D9TRdjQb_ApsXj4FTv1bKZ ndVw9uaUK2ARKdGT2i4tUu6nN1wqJ1IIWrzy5YMv2TFmH0cvtn.bQWGExgl.fPr06TuaC2l6ZEGo Nq14L19iKRZ_HTSyGXCFtBLWY6b9LN7730xbMXNv0033kj4.HkWpNEe_cxB5UxGRp8nEndEGlnS8 _dvDS Received: by 76.13.26.64; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:37:47 +0000 Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:37:47 +0000 (UTC) To: Richard Lindsay , "mg-t@autox.team.net" , "mgs@autox.team.net List" References: Subject: Re: [Mgs] Back on the TD From: Dan DiBiase via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7534471512570633678== boundary="----=_Part_5848547_1020274792.1424007467121" ------=_Part_5848547_1020274792.1424007467121 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looking good, Rick...... On the Lotus - were white wheels standard? Dan D'76B, '65BCentral NJ USA From: Richard Lindsay via Mgs To: "mg-t@autox.team.net" ; "mgs@autox.team.net List"= =20 Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 6:06 PM Subject: [Mgs] Back on the TD =20 Hi Friends, My friends fire damaged Dellortos are fully restored, to the tune of about $400 in repair parts, but they are done. I'll ship them over to him Monday. But that's not why I am writing to you. Today I took a few pictures of the recent work on the TD. Work on this car is just now restarting. Progress went on hold while I restored a Volvo 1800ES and bought a Lotus Esprit S2. But that car is not why I am writing to you either. This car is. http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1787e.jpg This picture is grainy because it was taken in low light. Sorry. This red paint in the following pictures, produces a bluish cast because its illuminated with an electronic flash. I guess that's fluoresence from the UV in the flash. So, in each of these picture, I have corrected the color temperature to the best of my ability. In doing so for the paint, sometimes the other bits go a little wrong. Specifically, one of the last pictures includes the tan facia, and it looks too yellow. Here is what I am actually trying to show - the beautiful fender welt. I love the way little details make big differences. http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1788e.jpg And before anyone beats me up too badly for the orange peal in the tub paint, please remember I painted this car in my home garage! Here's a tail light temporarily installed, but not yet wired. http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1789e.jpg Running board welt next. http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1790e.jpg I have the new treads, both aluminum and rubber, but that has to wait. Here's a fresh new door handle. Notice the new black cowl bumper. Again, little details. http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1791e.jpg Now, just an ongoing work picture. http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1792e.jpg The headlight supports should be body color but I forgot to paint them. Therefore, they are now black. Radiator grill color matches the interior leather. Just another couple of looks. http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1793e.jpg http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1794e.jpg Thanks again for the bonnet latch alignment advice you shared. And finally, here's the picture I referenced above, with the off color adjusted dash. http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1795e.jpg And that's it for now. Lots left to do but reassembly is so much more fun that scraping away grease and addressing rust! Oh, and just for completeness, here's the Lotus. http://aubard.us/Esprit/IMAG0211.jpg Regards, -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com ------=_Part_5848547_1020274792.1424007467121 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Looki= ng good, Rick...... On the Lotus - were white wheels standard?

Dan D

'76B, '65B

Central NJ USA

From: Richard Lindsay via Mgs <mgs= @autox.team.net>
To: "mg-t@autox.team.net" <mg-t@autox.team.net>; "mgs@autox.team.net Li= st" <mgs@autox.team.net>
S= ent: Saturday, February 14, 2015 6:06 PM
Subject: [Mgs] Back on the TD

<= br>Hi Friends,

My friends fire damaged Dellortos are fully restored,= to the tune of
about $400 in repair parts, but they are done. I'll ship= them over to
him Monday. But that's not why I am writing to you.
Today I took a few pictures of the recent work on the TD. Work on this
= car is just now restarting. Progress went on hold while I restored a
Vol= vo 1800ES and bought a Lotus Esprit S2. But that car is not why I
am wri= ting to you either.

This car is.

http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1787e.jpg

This picture is grainy because it was taken in low light. Sorry.<= br>
This red paint in the following pictures, produces a bluish cast
= because its illuminated with an electronic flash. I guess that's
fluores= ence from the UV in the flash. So, in each of these picture, I
have corr= ected the color temperature to the best of my ability. In
doing so for t= he paint, sometimes the other bits go a little wrong.
Specifically, one = of the last pictures includes the tan facia, and it
looks too yellow.
Here is what I am actually trying to show - the beautiful fender welt.=
I love the way little details make big differences.

http://aubard.us/MGTD= /Hpim1788e.jpg

And before anyone beats me up too badly for the o= range peal in the tub
paint, please remember I painted this car in my ho= me garage!

Here's a tail light temporarily installed, but not yet wi= red.

http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1789e.jpg

Running board welt next.<= br>
ht= tp://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1790e.jpg

I have the new treads, both al= uminum and rubber, but that has to wait.

Here's a fresh new door han= dle. Notice the new black cowl bumper.
Again, little details.

http://aubar= d.us/MGTD/Hpim1791e.jpg

Now, just an ongoing work picture.
http://= aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1792e.jpg

The headlight supports should be bo= dy color but I forgot to paint
them. Therefore, they are now black. Radi= ator grill color matches the
interior leather.

Just another coupl= e of looks.

http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1793e.jpg

http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpi= m1794e.jpg

Thanks again for the bonnet latch alignment advice yo= u shared.

And finally, here's the picture I referenced above, with t= he off color
adjusted dash.

http://aubard.us/MGTD/Hpim1795e.jpg
And that's it for now. Lots left to do but reassembly is so much more
f= un that scraping away grease and addressing rust! Oh, and just for
compl= eteness, here's the Lotus.

http://aubard.us/Esprit/IMAG0211.jpg

R= egards,

-rick
_______________________________________________
=
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mgs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp107.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (smtp107.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.244.55]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636372584598 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 12:15:04 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 80695 invoked from network); 15 Feb 2015 19:19:44 -0000 t=1424027984; bh=bOINN2F3sFtLB1c32fUZtqXhJQJSDJsWwD8XUMnpQTA=; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To; b=yenfgg92lTiRalcmW+9Kc5Dib4OOULogkCFnFhlSCTnxVTSoYLZEwA0N/X2KxgYXrCPyRWh1/UDj0vyToBgZLyaEgOh+OjhKH6ILNgLZ4U8O86G+saoL/S/Wl4fN/wD/zVTSKO1hw1UtFqX75ysmdsz0ykUisLSac64gvi3HxDw= 5jq3a3vbw_.PQUbhlcaCyoPvk1VRH7QagyAuMoYuQhvQ0yPK16IqaoYmrLoh tUIVXOhqaKSnPikifBTY1tfMetw9901zt9F1DUK4dFtRPZ0bXhVoLGofoT61 2PjY42I3X7u8dgoZemypQFNFh_XOj6MsP0pzXorwug7YjJVDXjBTAbn15hKe Mkmx9MJIkjqPtHqz3J3GOUJ0D_6.KaaEWpbuL8r25.KK2Dg942aENwK17r73 HPrROCUYcEsjUPifud8NZZdaNjovkXJFai30Aco8W5qJ9_UggyK12tPCqhzA MsO6qROL2ZO77OBm9d6aOHqU7Zc.yggPlL73uL.wAs_rWf3M14AaFavm2mFr 9DZ94NUE5yLFFx1YMROsRpU.uorb6j_Q13H2w2L0NuCj.QgB3auX8RJISsUq 0ArUbTZCPijPr1mhDC6B4cYnnZbYdNeg6.JA1MIIjpPFtGxrhSaSqGD7Qkia U5ifChl5FhZWdLmpemMnAKufL4EpDveRgClyW Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:19:43 -0600 References: To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] UK List Users From: Mike Duvall via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Reality tv: a genre of programming that documents unscripted situations and actual occurrences with a documentary style. Much of the criticism focuses on the term reality as they attempt to present themselves as a straightforward recounting of events. Low production costs and high popularity is a formula for high profits. > >> >> Do the guys really drive the cars? >> Here in the U.S. we never see programs where the cars are driven flat out. >> I was surprised to hear about Clarkson's lack of knowledge. >> I agree that 5th Gear is one hot hatch after another. Years ago I thought >> it was pretty good. Wheeler Dealers does have a lot of US cars being >> worked on by Ed. >> One of our better shows is Fantom Works. I went to see their operation and >> they are very much the real thing. >> _______ _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 15 17:52:28 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92A3258445D for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 17:52:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa08-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa08-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.106]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60FF4258021B for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 17:52:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from 370Z ([76.184.172.222]) by p3plsmtpa08-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id sox11p0034oFfFQ01ox15P; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 17:57:02 -0700 To: Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 18:54:42 -0600 Importance: Normal Subject: [Mgs] lever shocks From: dave n via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============5931117171781391863== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01D04950.DB70ABB0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01D04950.DB70ABB0 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I find I have a set of rear lever shocks from my 73 mgb, which I no = longer own. from looking at moss, it looks like they fit MGA, MGB, and = MGB. they are cores =E2=80=93 I can guarantee they will hold shock oil for 5 = minutes or 5 miles, whichever comes first. while they were still on the = car, I did fill them with 90 wt oil just for grins. it was incrediblly = stiff until the oil leaked out. the pair will fit in the $17.90 flat rate box. Moss charges $100 for a = single core. anyone want to make me an offer? ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01D04950.DB70ABB0 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I find I have a set of rear lever shocks from my 73 mgb, which I no = longer=20 own. from looking at moss, it looks like they fit MGA, MGB, and = MGB.

they are cores =E2=80=93 I can guarantee they will hold shock oil = for 5 minutes or=20 5 miles, whichever comes first. while they were still on the car, = I did=20 fill them with 90 wt oil just for grins. it was incrediblly stiff = until=20 the oil leaked out.

the pair will fit in the $17.90 flat rate box. Moss charges = $100 for=20 a single core.

anyone want to make me an offer?
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01D04950.DB70ABB0-- --===============5931117171781391863== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============5931117171781391863==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 15 20:53:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B70532580987 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:53:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f172.google.com (mail-vc0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FFD25800B4 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:53:13 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id kv7so9784569vcb.3 for ; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:57:54 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=E83LDu0+lfQgeJAloWAYB5xdc9eWmDrF1AksKzHGku4=; b=XikbSi8Zd5Xxz07ugqXb/rX50qpfwfoAYHRIzbyia0TMTZMNEcPjJuesLD/+b4T62q zu2zRuprtOrrrPLyU022CMSQCLRlV/MB6jVPZdP8YJmv75Ky6sHthay/wr/2paTstl6B TL9rm2DpSsApt02caTMfhBHIumxFjB/aqjwMS7txl2iP/9sBA12F/p2CibvFrlKI95iA atlBlS2iOzp9LCbv/IOiFdrti77rUGacd+m3Jz9KlpZ+anpjYmi4zuhL+6dmA6OdapfI 8VpF5fkGdthL+ucJLXt0wT2aSEsciiOnLgU7c8Px0is/aiV/mlf/tx3bgKebcRQUTkhN fqUQ== Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:57:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.52.255.139 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:57:54 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 19:57:54 -0800 To: Mike Duvall Cc: MGS Subject: Re: [Mgs] UK List Users From: Simon Matthews via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net You don't really think that "reality" programs are unscripted do you? Simon On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Mike Duvall via Mgs wrote: > Reality tv: a genre of programming that documents unscripted situations and actual occurrences with a documentary style. Much of the criticism focuses on the term reality as they attempt to present themselves as a straightforward recounting of events. Low production costs and high popularity is a formula for high profits. > > > >> >>> >>> Do the guys really drive the cars? >>> Here in the U.S. we never see programs where the cars are driven flat out. >>> I was surprised to hear about Clarkson's lack of knowledge. >>> I agree that 5th Gear is one hot hatch after another. Years ago I thought >>> it was pretty good. Wheeler Dealers does have a lot of US cars being >>> worked on by Ed. >>> One of our better shows is Fantom Works. I went to see their operation and >>> they are very much the real thing. >>> _______ > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/simon.d.matthews@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 16 02:01:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E1A8258472F for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 02:01:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 335A32584567 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 02:01:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-10-imp with bizsmtp id sx651p0294LtS4201x65xa; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 09:06:05 +0000 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=eNl1tamp0XBSnI5EAIkA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 To: References: Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 08:39:52 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mgs] UK List Users From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Top Gear is NOT 'reality' TV, in the way that 'reality' TV is on UK TV at = least. They all rely on a succession of people desperate for their 15 = minutes of fame. The participants are unscripted but the situations and = occurrences are - very carefully, for health and safety reasons at the very = least. Neither they nor TG can be considered to have a 'documentary style'= , = going by any documentary that I have watched. Yes, 'reality' shows have lo= w = production costs - "line ten people up and let's see how big a fool they ca= n = make out of themselves", incomparable with TG costs said to be =A37M per = series, and that's before the Big Three have been paid. Some of stunts TG = have pulled cost a lot of money, unlike seeing how long someone can sit in = a = bath of poo eating cockroaches, while pretending to be in an equatorial = jungle. ----- Original Message ----- = > Reality tv: a genre of programming that documents unscripted situations > and actual occurrences with a documentary style. Much of the criticism > focuses on the term reality as they attempt to present themselves as a > straightforward recounting of events. Low production costs and high > popularity is a formula for high profits. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 16 12:29:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F69725845EB for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 12:29:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp101.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (smtp101.biz.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.221.60]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C825B25844D5 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 12:28:55 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 64627 invoked from network); 16 Feb 2015 19:33:36 -0000 t=1424115216; bh=gOOJh9WMSgdQ8fQSrYmkzfBtPBoxmvSYdfiaKAVEqJ4=; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To; b=C/Ih8Ljv/3j2b/iTkIOMDlY8PL4J+vOtv8HeZpMkMQLbS+iOgy65kwwLXTK8iu0UNSD8phALyWL0YCt8EtQLyPWh0N8KgV0vnfdNirDN98AdcilDzO5eK9nXIT1RVHVg8BfF1NJp+0HnRsP5G+LPW0DsKtS35u9tygORoCpgxcs= LXWnwIf4d_OOWGO_aq9K9i5tGVgcqhePM6pkyyCWca0JAw8953Hltgeb7gya Tz.ocKY2yZwz33WsY3657mN4kgJunteKMznNk_Weokv76FIF0uR3yQVDBTBB NmvA1PhxzBn2dSz6wbqKWLxqMsOPmXUhz9Cz2Rh6cbuFpgqdJe4o77dD0ifN jSvrMqm6mS1W2f91M8aLAQpNIJrVpu7OgYc8fLMsDp0tE0KAkNltKoWkjbug FlgLGRQvh3itvQRAqlAUJjx.dJuqSNlsrWP_y49zn4ofdPf2sd9tQymKenoW sJo4ncgJnIYQRH7ECnvEk6RhyOClax5dmwFt6zKZI2u.jsAe1obZf3WRx5uw AegvCvQUD6PWeJhNZCfbQufYLbP2kmbFQ0NBGTzTpvU01h6Dd1OVbbqIK7fs Sc8ahn28tM24MGrLUsSmQUJhvxaP.hf3EzKMhyjPRiXG1OclyjOs.Y5EToPj INGPLmiOZvqHXV7rlWOORCcafg4cXcfWtapIRVrXEBPkbm7.hlAzfNxI- Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 13:33:34 -0600 References: To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Reality TV From: Mike Duvall via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I guess several of you were confused by my posting. =93attempt to present themselves as a straight forward accounting of events= =94 means they are NOT REAL =93actual occurrences=94 means the physical activities did happen. =93unscripted=94 mean no one told the =93actors=94 what to say and every d= etail was not planned in advance. =93actors=94 means =93one who takes part= =94 = =93genre=94 means type or class=85. So Reality TV is a broad genre that refers to an unscripted documentary sty= le of production where the actors are placed in contrived situations and re= spond to the situation. = Unscripted documentary style focuses on covering the main actions of the ac= tors with one or multiple cameras. = > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:19:43 -0600 > From: Mike Duvall > To: mgs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Mgs] UK List Users > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii > = > Reality tv: a genre of programming that documents unscripted situations = and actual occurrences with a documentary style. Much of the criticism foc= uses on the term reality as they attempt to present themselves as a straigh= tforward recounting of events. Low production costs and high popularity i= s a formula for high profits. = > = > = > = _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 16 12:40:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A5F72584680 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 12:40:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail12.tpgi.com.au (mail12.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.162]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04D3B2580BB8 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 12:37:44 -0700 (MST) date=Tue, 17 Feb 2015 06:42:23 +1100; auth=/X0J75t1ChDYY67dqz+6Qd4jQKMnvLVol4kYJX68JBs= Received: from [192.168.0.7] (58-6-197-149.dyn.iinet.net.au [58.6.197.149]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail12.tpgi.com.au (envelope-from arundell@ghs.com.au) (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id t1GJgK83017839 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 17 Feb 2015 06:42:23 +1100 References: Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 05:42:20 +1000 To: Mike Duvall Cc: "mgs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mgs] Reality TV From: Murray Arundell via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net RGVwZW5kcyBvbiBvbmVzIGRlZmluaXRpb24gYW5kIHBlcmNlcHRpb24gLi4uLi4KClNlbnQgZnJv bSBteSBpUGhvbmUKCj4gT24gMTcgRmViIDIwMTUsIGF0IDA1OjMzLCBNaWtlIER1dmFsbCB2aWEg TWdzIDxtZ3NAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQ+IHdyb3RlOgo+IAo+IEkgZ3Vlc3Mgc2V2ZXJhbCBvZiB5 b3Ugd2VyZSBjb25mdXNlZCBieSBteSBwb3N0aW5nLgo+IAo+IOKAnGF0dGVtcHQgdG8gcHJlc2Vu dCB0aGVtc2VsdmVzIGFzIGEgc3RyYWlnaHQgZm9yd2FyZCBhY2NvdW50aW5nIG9mIGV2ZW50c+KA nSAgbWVhbnMgdGhleSBhcmUgTk9UIFJFQUwKPiAKPiDigJxhY3R1YWwgb2NjdXJyZW5jZXPigJ0g IG1lYW5zIHRoZSBwaHlzaWNhbCBhY3Rpdml0aWVzIGRpZCBoYXBwZW4uCj4gCj4g4oCcdW5zY3Jp cHRlZOKAnSBtZWFuIG5vIG9uZSB0b2xkIHRoZSDigJxhY3RvcnPigJ0gIHdoYXQgdG8gc2F5IGFu 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via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I=92m not sure of your point Murray. = On Feb 16, 2015, at 2:02 PM, Richard Lindsay wr= ote: > Just as nothing on the Internet is private, nothing on TV is reality! > = > On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Murray Arundell via Mgs > wrote: >> Depends on ones definition and perception ..... >> = >> Sent from my iPhone >> = _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 16 17:52:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4B522584708 for ; Mon, 16 Feb 2015 17:52:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f181.google.com (mail-we0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with 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about the Kit show in an old magazine. There used to be an autojumble at the same time as the kit show. I went once, and there were only a few cars on display. Didn't go back because it conflicted with the Dayton Hamvention. In the article there were hundreds of cars and no mention of an autojumble. Is there still one? It used to be an important event for listers with much talk before the event, and some after it. They even met under the stands at 1:00PM to meet the other folks who were just a signature on the list. It was important enough for someone to design a hat with the list address and title on the front. What happened? Jack --f46d044280fad49cd0050f3e2ba2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Cam= e across an article about the Kit show in an old magazine. There used to be= an autojumble at the same time as the kit show. I went once, and there wer= e only a few cars on display. Didn't go back because it conflicted with= the Dayton Hamvention.

In the article there were hundreds of cars and no mention = of an autojumble. Is there still one? It used to be an important event for = listers with much talk before the event, and some after it. They even met u= nder the stands at 1:00PM to meet the other folks who were just a signature= on the list.

It was important enough for someone to design a hat with the list a= ddress and title on the front.

What happened?

Jack
--f46d044280fad49cd0050f3e2ba2-- --===============8582414550560903999== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============8582414550560903999==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 17 01:32:09 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 988B825848AA for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 01:32:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15A0F25801AB for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 01:32:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-10-imp with bizsmtp id tLci1p01z4LtS4201LcihG; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 08:36:43 +0000 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=U-YWIXomGHtcxxsfBXoA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=rV94NrKe2b0A:10 a=J-tC3_Nvd9MA:10 a=_tIrEvbJEaQA:10 To: "Mike Duvall" , References: Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 08:13:28 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Reality TV From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Still doesn't apply to Top Gear. ----- Original Message ----- I guess several of you were confused by my posting. .... _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 17 08:13:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E546A25849FD for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 08:13:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED3D5258462E for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 08:12:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from FrankPC ([100.40.67.189]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.32.0 64bit (built Jul 16 2014)) with ESMTPA id <0NJX00421946R9I0@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for mgs@autox.team.net; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:16:57 -0600 (CST) a=LTkUXWaq_goA:10 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=oR5dmqMzAAAA:8 a=-9mUelKeXuEA:10 a=0HtSIViG9nkA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=5IDOd1lSC1ruGaJCcWQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=uaqEUCms9XTo6NSdgLoA:9 a=4V73aUYk1N0hFhFJ:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 To: "Jack Feldman" References: Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:16:57 -0500 Importance: Normal Cc: MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] Carlisle From: FrankK via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0476936538341501602== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01D04A9A.DC81AF90" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01D04A9A.DC81AF90 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jack: I recall those days fondly. A group of us listers met several = times under the grandstand. We had name badges that one of the listers = created.=20 Frank Krajewski From: Jack Feldman via Mgs=20 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 7:56 PM To: mgs@autox.team.net=20 Subject: [Mgs] Carlisle Came across an article about the Kit show in an old magazine. There used = to be an autojumble at the same time as the kit show. I went once, and = there were only a few cars on display. Didn't go back because it = conflicted with the Dayton Hamvention. In the article there were hundreds of cars and no mention of an = autojumble. Is there still one? It used to be an important event for = listers with much talk before the event, and some after it. They even = met under the stands at 1:00PM to meet the other folks who were just a = signature on the list.=20 It was important enough for someone to design a hat with the list = address and title on the front. What happened? Jack=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- _______________________________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01D04A9A.DC81AF90 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Jack: I recall those days fondly. A group of us listers met = several=20 times under the grandstand. We had name badges that one of the listers = created.=20

Frank Krajewski

From: Jack Feldman via Mgs

Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 7:56 PM

To: mgs@autox.team.net

Subject: [Mgs] Carlisle

Came across an = article about=20 the Kit show in an old magazine. There used to be an autojumble at the = same time=20 as the kit show. I went once, and there were only a few cars on display. = Didn't=20 go back because it conflicted with the Dayton Hamvention.

In the article = there were=20 hundreds of cars and no mention of an autojumble. Is there still one? It = used to=20 be an important event for listers with much talk before the event, and = some=20 after it. They even met under the stands at 1:00PM to meet the other = folks who=20 were just a signature on the list.

It was important = enough for=20 someone to design a hat with the list address and title on the=20 front.

What = happened?

Jack

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On Feb 17, 2015, at 2:13 AM, PaulHunt73 wrote: > Still doesn't apply to Top Gear. > > ----- Original Message ----- > I guess several of you were confused by my posting. > > .... _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 17 10:35:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79152584AC7 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:35:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f50.google.com (mail-pa0-f50.google.com [209.85.220.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337292584A48 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 10:35:16 -0700 (MST) Received: by pablf10 with SMTP id lf10so7860496pab.12 for ; Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:39:58 -0800 (PST) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:cc:mime-version :content-type; bh=tYeGkHl1UfhsfhHx7NoTuWhrgaZ7NEAQ7Er/M1razt4=; b=xZyuPyGZ2hmQXkp4YKHvKjIsaHMHleWT8/uleD/Pk9bO2EDYBZZI4W9XFWhIqRS0LJ Urd7qpOTCkep+6I4Pjp2DoXmJn79PIwgI9ywVviEdMcaUkm9TC+xo5+K+jXMMVX5wFUt rWb5sIykgN4KBKhDJ/gGIyY6vWwpbfpzVDyEW0GoAd7VoqDrMgiES53a+PS13gZyjIFC zG240iYKpbZKtc6K2Dv+5z7TQ3bfS02YnNHr9FyAgjzHCR8la2CWpMKbk9vushBfwmDd zuBXlBqbEL0wsa8Pya8EF6PEg3G/KHbXRCjFj3UIbCOUaZEr3WiGj5ZukZUGQeB1O0xR JPiA== Tue, 17 Feb 2015 09:39:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.76] (107-192-135-76.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. 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bizsmtp id tklT1p01K4LtS4201klTwu; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 08:45:28 +0000 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=Unwp-Yj9BrIoSIw6VfgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Cc: References: Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 08:32:01 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Reality TV From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hey, a man after my own heart! If we are watching live I'd rather stare at the walls when the ads come on, even though there is no paint drying there. But on the internet I just ignore it, like junk email - as long as they are static. However I occasionally get web pages with embedded video hidden somewhere on the page, and I refuse to spend the time to search for it and stop it, so just turn the sound off. I can stand five seconds of an ad on the occasional YouTube as I can watch the count-down. But recently someone sent me one with fifteen seconds of ad and that just got binned. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- - I only look at programs saved on my PVR and I buy nothing that is advertised - even if I want it !! _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 18 01:41:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDAAE2580358 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 01:41:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D83822580290 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 01:40:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-10-imp with bizsmtp id tklT1p01K4LtS4201klUww; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 08:45:28 +0000 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=kcCuLb5iPU8e8MWhdVoA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=v4C7X6virrIA:10 a=FgW0AXBnHl0A:10 Cc: References: <7965B061DC474A1C84F4ABF3393D291F@paul> <8099C655-2339-4D5A-A5B6-7474AC2BF487@duvallvideo.com> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 08:37:59 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Reality TV From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Er, now I'm 'confused of Solihull'. The thread was talking about Top Gear. You (unless I missed a posting) introduced the concept of 'reality' TV with a definition. Now you say this. Why bring up 'reality' tv if Top Gear doesn't fit the definition? ----- Original Message ----- > If you mean the criteria I posted eliminates Top Gear, that was my point. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 18 05:33:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B0CE25846D2 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 05:33:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f171.google.com (mail-pd0-f171.google.com [209.85.192.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58022580358 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 05:32:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by pdbnh10 with SMTP id nh10so838353pdb.11 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 04:37:42 -0800 (PST) h=date:subject:message-id:importance:from:to:cc:mime-version :content-type; bh=Hibn2r70YcS245SEjU/vCGA708oh3lkq/YANZP3fS90=; b=fPPecDteLqIs+5LWB49lgJ7eY8hKOwr/xREPfMrxhFqCNBZvqKpZJbrE1n1V+WnUbK oY4f/HcF2BSS516D7zzpnQFMGgConAOW1US1wdakLVnosAu/Hx5oNYnTU3dsIPdlTOEA UDxNFZ2uGZXQkwek4GxmTKGgurTlxi322LT1w0ZUI0hZkvDAkrD99vQVlqTa/zqIbK3D LSLOkfP7K4dV3WR1/RWXkozIMz1ZG5VCagWm+iL4er5CsLqqHAIuCv/fL6INS0XeK4Oc QltKLwxMhZ14ufU9SaQmSIq6aXSJE17xlzV8mNeKknFHvk+hFF8pwvmTWEDwtF/aL1oY UtEA== Wed, 18 Feb 2015 04:37:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.76] (107-192-135-76.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net. 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Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4804025844A2 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 06:47:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64991258047D for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 06:46:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-10-imp with bizsmtp id tpqh1p01J4LtS4201pqiCQ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 13:50:42 +0000 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=8G6HqcE4axIer4el2xcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=x-XZBAL9sIeCyyTzacsA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Cc: References: <82ui9gsyqva4bwtgk9liga4y.1424263057873@email.android.com> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 13:47:12 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Reality TV From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============3316210895852134522== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00F4_01D04B81.660125C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00F4_01D04B81.660125C0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Does anywhere other than the UK have that pinnacle of viewing called = Gogglebox, which is a program that consists entirely (I assume, never = having watched it) of looking at and listening to other people in their = homes watching TV? ----- Original Message -----=20 Over here the old networks have a new trick to entice the millenials = to watch live. They include interactive online content during the shows = that isn't available if watching recorded. And of course, no self = respecting millenial can resist playing with his smart-device, even when = watching a TV show! ------=_NextPart_000_00F4_01D04B81.660125C0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Does anywhere other than the UK have that pinnacle = of viewing=20 called Gogglebox, which is a program that consists entirely (I assume, = never=20 having watched it) of looking at and listening to other people in their = homes=20 watching TV?

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Over here the old networks have a new trick to entice the = millenials to=20 watch live. They include interactive online content during the shows = that=20 isn't available if watching recorded. And of course, no self = respecting=20 millenial can resist playing with his smart-device, even when watching = a TV=20 show!
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Although I did see something recently= regarding Samsung Smart TV's (one of which I juts bought) that may have ac= cess toyour conversations (and potentially transmit them to Samsung, I gues= s) if you have voice commands enabled... Which I do not.... MG content: this winter has been so snowy and cold that I was thinking the = other day that there hasn't been a day in either January or February that h= as 1) been warm enoughand 2) where the streets have been salt-free enough f= or my to take the '76 B out to shake out the cobwebs.... I can't remember t= he last time that happened. Usually we get a dayor two in the 40's where I = can do that.....=20 Dan D'76B, '65BCentral NJ USA From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs To:=20 Cc: mgs@autox.team.net=20 Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [Mgs] Reality TV =20 Does anywhere other than the UK have that pinnacle of viewing called Goggl= ebox, which is a program that consists entirely (I assume, never having wat= ched it) of looking at and listening to other people in their homes watchin= g TV? ----- Original Message ----- Over here the old networks have a new trick = to entice the millenials to watch live. They include interactive online con= tent during the shows that isn't available if watching recorded. And of cou= rse, no self respecting millenial can resist playing with his smart-device,= even when watching a TV show! _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com ------=_Part_1027422_1982326106.1424273913336 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Oh my gosh, not = that I have heard of! Although I did see something recently regarding Samsu= ng Smart TV's (one of which I juts bought) that may have access to
your conversations (a= nd potentially transmit them to Samsung, I guess) if you have voice command= s enabled... Which I do not....

MG content: this winter has been so snowy and cold that I was th= inking the other day that there hasn't been a day in either January or Febr= uary that has 1) been warm enough
and 2) where the streets have been salt-free enough fo= r my to take the '76 B out to shake out the cobwebs.... I can't remember th= e last time that happened. Usually we get a day
or two in the 40's where I can do that..= ...

=
Dan D
<= div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1424264078127_14899" dir=3D"ltr">'76B, '65B

Central NJ USA

From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net= >
To:
Cc: mgs@autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 20= 15 8:47 AM
Subject: Re= : [Mgs] Reality TV

=20 =20

Does anywhere other than the UK have that pinnac= le of viewing=20 called Gogglebox, which is a program that consists entirely (I assume, neve= r=20 having watched it) of looking at and listening to other people in their hom= es=20 watching TV?

----- Original Message -----

Over here the old networks have a new trick to entice the millenials= to=20 watch live. They include interactive online content during the shows that= =20 isn't available if watching recorded. And of course, no self respecting= =20 millenial can resist playing with his smart-device, even when watching a = TV=20 show!

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Wed, 18 Feb 2015 09:18:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FFA52584444 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 09:18:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-10-imp with bizsmtp id tsPT1p02E4LtS4201sPT6K; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 16:23:27 +0000 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=oaYZ1lbEtyrAh4-F3RwA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=4qFIAIaKuznzNWpJzLcA:9 a=MzD_FHV8A22p9Ve6:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Cc: References: <1920738766.1027423.1424273913340.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 16:15:29 -0000 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Reality TV From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1493781418578002536== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0058_01D04B96.1CE176A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01D04B96.1CE176A0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Samsung - 1984 has arrived. I can sort of understand Samsung capturing = to stuff to analyse it and fine tune their voice recognition software. = At least one 'technical' reporter has said it is because the voice is = sent to a central server, interpreted, then the commands to change = channel or the volume are sent back to the TV - really? TVs are = computers, they should be able to do it for themselves, downloading = software upgrades as and when. And as for admitting they share it with = others ... Negligible snow but cold enough for salt for some time in my bit of the = UK. Rained quite a bit Monday and sunshine forecast for Tuesday - = goody. But then they put more salt down Monday night! One short run in = more than two months now. I'll leave you to imagine what Ricky = Tomlinson would say about global warming. PaulH. ----- Original Message -----=20 MG content: this winter has been so snowy and cold that I was thinking = the other day that there hasn't been a day in either January or February = that has 1) been warm enough and 2) where the streets have been salt-free enough for my to take the = '76 B out to shake out the cobwebs....=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0058_01D04B96.1CE176A0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Samsung - 1984 has arrived. I can sort of = understand=20 Samsung capturing to stuff to analyse it and fine tune their voice = recognition=20 software. At least one 'technical' reporter has said it is because = the voice is sent to a central server, interpreted, then the = commands=20 to change channel or the volume are sent back to the TV - really? = TVs are=20 computers, they should be able to do it for themselves, downloading = software=20 upgrades as and when. And as for admitting they share it with = others=20 ...

Negligible snow but cold enough for salt for some = time in my=20 bit of the UK. Rained quite a bit Monday and sunshine forecast for = Tuesday=20 - goody. But then they put more salt down Monday night! =20 One short run in more than two months now. I'll leave = you to=20 imagine what Ricky Tomlinson would say about global = warming.

PaulH.

----- Original Message -----

MG content: this = winter has=20 been so snowy and cold that I was thinking the other day that there = hasn't=20 been a day in either January or February that has 1) been warm = enough

and 2) where the = streets have=20 been salt-free enough for my to take the '76 B out to shake out the=20 cobwebs....

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