From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 3 15:12:06 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3C92584DB9 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2015 15:12:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from eta.look.ca (eta.look.ca [216.66.192.8]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD48225848AD; Fri, 3 Apr 2015 15:05:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from e120-pool-d89a4df0.brdbnd.telnetcommunications.com ([216.154.77.240] helo=Windows7.look.ca) by eta.look.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ye8s4-0007MQ-5T; Fri, 03 Apr 2015 17:11:20 -0400 Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 17:11:16 -0400 To: mgb-v8@autox.team.net,mgs@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] Chromium Plating From: Barrie Robinson via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Lady & Gentlemen, My chrome is somewhat tatty. Can anyone recommend reasonable but good plater. The Canadian ones are getting very very expensive. My MGB was done for $300 but is now quoted at $600. Anyone used China? Regards, Barrie Barrie Robinson Go with the flow - but paddle hard MGB GT V8 in concours condition Aston Martin DB 2/4 MkII under restoration www.AMFClub.com www.britcot.com www.vectisgroup.ca barrie@look.ca Barrie, Ontario 705-721-9060 _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 3 21:43:18 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33FC2584B5E for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2015 21:43:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from pacmmta55.windstream.net (pacmmta55.windstream.net [162.39.147.221]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC182584855 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2015 21:42:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([72.172.26.198]) by pacmmta55.windstream.net with pacmmta55 id Bfor1q0084GTCSo01forul; Fri, 03 Apr 2015 23:48:52 -0400 a=dsSTmp81xzHSiWrAx/BS2g==:117 a=dsSTmp81xzHSiWrAx/BS2g==:17 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=73ab78M7B2EA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=Ov22w-J6AAAA:8 a=a0vQxpsLAAAA:8 a=22p6D_2QAAAA:8 a=OwgLUDd4AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=nsJy4fn1UcfJhxw5NogA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=3tI3Ae-RVZAA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 Authentication-Results: pacmmta55.windstream.net ; auth=pass smtp.auth=ccrobins@ktc.com Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2015 22:48:40 -0500 Organization: Computer Helpers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.5.0 To: Barrie Robinson , mgb-v8@autox.team.net, mgs@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Mgs] Chromium Plating From: Charley & Peggy Robinson via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net The chrome from China that I saw years ago was bluish in tint & very thin. I had a guy in SA who did that work but he folded up. I don't like the export stuff. What does your pocket tell you? CR On 4/3/2015 4:11 PM, Barrie Robinson via Mgs wrote: > Lady & Gentlemen, > > My chrome is somewhat tatty. Can anyone recommend reasonable but good > plater. The Canadian ones are getting very very expensive. My MGB > was done for $300 but is now quoted at $600. Anyone used China? > > Regards, > Barrie > > Barrie Robinson Go with the flow - but paddle > hard > MGB GT V8 in concours condition > Aston Martin DB 2/4 MkII under restoration > www.AMFClub.com > www.britcot.com > www.vectisgroup.ca > barrie@look.ca > Barrie, Ontario > 705-721-9060 > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins@ktc.com > _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 4 03:27:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA52825849C7 for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2015 03:27:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-8.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-8.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C208258021B for ; Sat, 4 Apr 2015 03:22:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-8-imp with bizsmtp id BlUC1q02C4LtS4201lUDbF; Sat, 04 Apr 2015 10:28:13 +0100 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=_izwy0XXAAAA:8 a=pxnlQwqvAAAA:8 a=vkTO9ANIEv_hZuTCmFwA:9 a=Ck-CFXGQA-9IsfVZ:21 a=mLoTIj8xJV7OaI1A:21 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=rxpY9E8_cHsA:10 a=GG9UGNxscuwA:10 a=JoCzTW9ZQxEA:10 a=_h_D6aond1cA:10 To: "Barrie Robinson" , , References: Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2015 10:06:53 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Chromium Plating From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net If you were thinking of using China you could consider these: http://www.castlechrome.co.uk/ Did a superb job on quarterlights: http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/qlight.htm#13 PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > My chrome is somewhat tatty. Can anyone recommend reasonable but > good plater. The Canadian ones are getting very very expensive. My > MGB was done for $300 but is now quoted at $600. Anyone used China? _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 7 09:07:46 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F74625809F6 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 09:07:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-8.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-8.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E52A325809F6 for ; Tue, 7 Apr 2015 08:44:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-8-imp with bizsmtp id D2qr1q00e4LtS42012qr4j; Tue, 07 Apr 2015 15:50:51 +0100 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=gzX454P9UpqoHm5_mJgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=4xX-jZcvKykA:10 a=DQ3A2p8zke4A:10 a=vM7cyhaC_TwA:10 a=vqB7t5qJdrYz8ku7gskA:9 a=cklPmHax4xdFNpyB:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 To: , Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2015 15:54:06 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] MGB Mk1 roadster seat belts From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============9113765655967483054== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0041_01D0714B.13EA9150" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01D0714B.13EA9150 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Has anyone fitted inertia reels to the mounting point on the rear wheel = arch - this is the forward one as pictured here = http://www.paulhunt73.webspace.virginmedia.com/mgb-stuff/images/seatbelt6= 7c.jpg, not the later one right at the back. Type used? Any issues? Or does it have to be statics on these? PaulH. ------=_NextPart_000_0041_01D0714B.13EA9150 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Has anyone fitted inertia reels to the mounting = point on the=20 rear wheel arch - this is the forward one as pictured here http://www.paulhunt73.webspace.virginmedia.com/mgb-stuff/= images/seatbelt67c.jpg,=20 not the later one right at the back.
 
Type used?  Any issues?  Or does it have = to be=20 statics on these?
 
PaulH.
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The only issue I had was the mounting holes were not very clean and the mounting bolts for the shoulder belts didn't want to go in easily. I would suggest you run a tap through the holes before mounting. Rick On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:54 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs wrote: > Has anyone fitted inertia reels to the mounting point on the rear wheel > arch - this is the forward one as pictured here > http://www.paulhunt73.webspace.virginmedia.com/mgb-stuff/images/seatbelt67c.jpg, > not the later one right at the back. > > Type used? Any issues? Or does it have to be statics on these? > > PaulH. > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/richard.ewald@gmail.com > > --001a1134235011bfc305132ddfc0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I mounted the Kangol non-inertia reel belts= from a 69(?)B in my 67 B.
The only issue I had was the mounting h= oles were not very clean and the mounting bolts for the shoulder belts didn= 't want to go in easily.
I would suggest you run a tap through= the holes before mounting.
Rick

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 7:54 AM, PaulHunt7= 3 via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:
Has anyone fitted inertia reels to the mounting point on the=20 rear wheel arch - this is the forward one as pictured here http://www.paulhunt73.webspace.virginmedia.com/mgb-stuff= /images/seatbelt67c.jpg,=20 not the later one right at the back.
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Type used?=C2=A0 Any issues?=C2=A0 Or does it have to be=20 statics on these?
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PaulH.

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--001a1134235011bfc305132ddfc0-- --===============1739957543229520871== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============1739957543229520871==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 02:32:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED02A2585A39 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 02:32:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-8.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-8.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEDC02580B7A for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 02:04:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-8-imp with bizsmtp id DLAP1q02H4LtS4201LAQ0a; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 09:10:24 +0100 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=z1R5-WJlAAAA:8 a=qV0mfD4mAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=6TYSEBy3t7ac5qyV6SUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=o8hDQ0G7OvMA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=G_5s8neSAAAA:8 a=azYSTmqZmB0RaiGwZHkA:9 a=Lbryxu8fBBJx3InK:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=yHmpGuN2Kb8A:10 a=1GSbIA61q4gA:10 To: , References: <8912DE190A004041A6AA5036DC31EF98@paul> <10AB2AE8085C4047ACC2080815DFD9591C7C6BA7@DR-EX-MLB05.datacenter.dataresolution.net> Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 08:43:43 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] MGB Mk1 roadster seat belts From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============4637475711601237687== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0084_01D071D8.1E9350F0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01D071D8.1E9350F0 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Kelvin - didn't know the tunnel point had moved. PaulH. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kelvin Dodd doddk@mossmotors.com [MG-MGB]=20 To: 'MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com' ; 'mgs@autox.team.net'=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 7:04 PM Subject: RE: [MG-MGB] MGB Mk1 roadster seat belts =20 Paul.=20 If you are running a stowaway top there should be no problem with bow = clearance. You can use a non pendulum type of belt like the one I = sourced under Moss 222-216 http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=3D102183 The inner latch support is longer than normal so it will reach back to = the more rearward mounting point on the tunnel on cars earlier than = 1973.=20 Kelvin.=20 From: MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 7:54 AM To: mgs@autox.team.net; MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MG-MGB] MGB Mk1 roadster seat belts =20 Has anyone fitted inertia reels to the mounting point on the rear = wheel arch - this is the forward one as pictured here = http://www.paulhunt73.webspace.virginmedia.com/mgb-stuff/images/seatbelt6= 7c.jpg, not the later one right at the back. Type used? Any issues? Or does it have to be statics on these? PaulH. __._,_.___ -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Posted by: Kelvin Dodd =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Reply via web post . Reply to sender . Reply to group . Start = a New Topic . Messages in this topic (3) =20 Visit Your Group=20 . Privacy . Unsubscribe . Terms of Use=20 . =20 __,_._,___ ------=_NextPart_000_0084_01D071D8.1E9350F0 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Kelvin - didn't know the tunnel point had=20 moved.
 
PaulH.
 
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From:=20 Kelvin Dodd = doddk@mossmotors.com=20 [MG-MGB]
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Paul.=20

If you are=20 running a stowaway top there should be no problem with bow clearance. = You can=20 use a non pendulum type of belt like the one I sourced under Moss=20 222-216

http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=3D10= 2183

The inner=20 latch support is longer than normal so it will reach back to the more = rearward=20 mounting point on the tunnel on cars earlier than 1973. =

Kelvin.=20

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Subject:=20 [MG-MGB] MGB Mk1 roadster seat belts

 

Has anyone fitted = inertia=20 reels to the mounting point on the rear wheel arch - this is the = forward one=20 as pictured here http://www.paulhunt73.webspace.virginmedia.com/mgb-stuff/= images/seatbelt67c.jpg,=20 not the later one right at the back.

Type used?  = Any=20 issues?  Or does it have to be statics on = these?

PaulH.

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------=_NextPart_000_0084_01D071D8.1E9350F0-- --===============4637475711601237687== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============4637475711601237687==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 09:50:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F88E2584747 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 09:50:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm43-vm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm43-vm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B50D925849FE for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 09:33:10 -0600 (MDT) t=1428507551; bh=guGbxwMAhYPZnYO5IuxujMf192Pc0/jZ4kS7UgME4Pc=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=Hx7ImDnbGHPZI2poTVcr8XCoLU0E/HjAtZFWe6DEbX2vmBRz2hLoZy+yOdZTVy126wL6aNJgAlyb33kLa+VCYnW/K+rHGqFKU5GsQpCcmVgApMXUMOOIVo+46tN/FdfetaAvdgTn47vi+zKQ/f1iJiWnyKFoK+MLT3l7EGGYhQLN/E+LJI19WY9Lgv0sfXt8I6qB7EtxXHzhEUw+uW18qBCXVRjmQfD+px9+7gYHCWxuEUFG+H1dSTCb5bSfFwvE31ByljEmovuD9h5EEPvfbyqBjjJnAATEgMu59TxzqoVI+LuoJ0DbIrMNz2lPjehtDddUGqrnLtZk7xzKvYwPtw== Received: from [98.139.170.180] by nm43.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2015 15:39:11 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.247] by tm23.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2015 15:39:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1056.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2015 15:39:11 -0000 58JPBZm7nXVoMBx8aF.tk9h8kzpXWLIe8iWm.u1PCdtZExHT1oCkISmLjg.jnvwJwveX5B3N7MEs j3.lSODvDUVvXH5KeMvQJ6QF8bpoVGPBTu3j_ueXx3tONyzKZuOKCkrmDFe2lk6yMm3uO3LJtJ6i 3AcEFuncdl18_no_1cm0p8ExvrITAKKUpePuDZkSwHKqexPjXFczDSh4bHoukuZ_Xlsw_FM.RAVj PAdqivPSspLMDkn_ldsQXgc4s6kNWkLenK8i34X7GLOth9H8pQj7E4.Cj_ukftH565a17Z9S43FI uRoCMb8si1CTP0PLxJdXqjAWaZpPJXAW96tTwkB8AHOS83puzJ7veznE39cfowgYNymF9kRWPN78 VrKd0DavSgFTThLsb1SkwO7sN2PccocZ05b0wFkMfDJEpeNUj2eGNmuLqyolV8YVgindB3OmGBgX Rjp3.CQ0- Received: by 76.13.27.69; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 15:39:10 +0000 Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2015 15:39:10 +0000 (UTC) To: schultejim , "Mgs@autox.team.net" , MGB Group References: Subject: Re: [Mgs] Update on 74.5 BGT From: Dan DiBiase via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8455142006537291232== boundary="----=_Part_2444815_359244164.1428507550093" ------=_Part_2444815_359244164.1428507550093 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Well, I got my '76 B out of the garage on Monday afternoon, for it's first = post-winter spin. Only did about 5 miles due to lack of time and had to jum= p it asmy battery trickle charger seems not to have trickled..... But knowi= ng the rest of this week was going to be crappy (and it is) I wanted to get= the juices flowing(mine and the B's). So that was nice. Car ran strongly a= s always. I usually get a chance to run it a couple of times throughout the= winter, as we almost alwayshave a stretch of 40 degree days but between th= e snow, very colds conditions and the amount of salt on the roads, that nev= er happened. But the car startedright up, after I turned it over a few time= s with the coil unplugged to get the oil pressure up. I'm still mulling the progress of the '65 B restoration and I appreciate al= l the responses to my post of about a month ago, but public and private. I'= m hopingto have the time to delve back into it this year. Dan D'76B, '65BCentral NJ USA From: schultejim via Mgs To: "Mgs@autox.team.net" =20 Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 2015 7:03 PM Subject: [Mgs] Update on 74.5 BGT =20 Rick,I am joining the fun. I haven't posted here in ages. Well anyway I res= tored a 74.5 BGT over the past 3 years. I continue to upgrade it. Lately in= stalled cruise control, LED lights all around the outside and the tach and = speedo. Also a friend gave me a set of Wipac driving lights and they are no= w functioning. Also installed a heat shield between the headder/muffler and= the drivers seat. Looking forward to driving it to Niagara Falls this June= .Jim70 B74.5 BGT58 Magnette ZB Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE4 Active=E2=84=A2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartp= hone _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com ------=_Part_2444815_359244164.1428507550093 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Well, I got my '7= 6 B out of the garage on Monday afternoon, for it's first post-winter spin.= Only did about 5 miles due to lack of time and had to jump it as
my battery trickle char= ger seems not to have trickled..... But knowing the rest of this week was g= oing to be crappy (and it is) I wanted to get the juices flowing
(mine and the B's). So t= hat was nice. Car ran strongly as always. I usually get a chance to run it = a couple of times throughout the winter, as we almost always
have a stretch of 40 degre= e days but between the snow, very colds conditions and the amount of salt o= n the roads, that never happened. But the car started
right up, after I turned it over a = few times with the coil unplugged to get the oil pressure up.

I'm still mulling the progress of t= he '65 B restoration and I appreciate all the responses to my post of about= a month ago, but public and private. I'm hoping
to have the time to delve back into it t= his year.

=
Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA
=
From: schulte= jim via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
To: "Mgs@autox.team.net" <Mgs@autox.team.net>
<= b>Sent: Tuesday, April 7, 201= 5 7:03 PM
Subject: [Mg= s] Update on 74.5 BGT

Rick,
I am joining t= he fun. I haven't posted here in ages. Well anyway I restored a 74.5 BGT ov= er the past 3 years. I continue to upgrade it. Lately installed cruise cont= rol, LED lights all around the outside and the tach and speedo. Also a frie= nd gave me a set of Wipac driving lights and they are now functioning. Also= installed a heat shield between the headder/muffler and the drivers seat. = Looking forward to driving it to Niagara Falls this June.
Jim
70 B
74.5 BGT
=
58 Magnette ZB


Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S=C2=AE4 Active= =E2=84=A2, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

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------=_Part_2444815_359244164.1428507550093-- --===============8455142006537291232== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============8455142006537291232==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 8 12:23:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 020452585077 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 12:23:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from zeta.look.ca (unknown [216.66.192.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8068A25800B4 for ; Wed, 8 Apr 2015 11:19:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from e120-pool-d89a4df0.brdbnd.telnetcommunications.com ([216.154.77.240] helo=Windows7.look.ca) by zeta.look.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Yftil-0004p2-CQ; Wed, 08 Apr 2015 13:24:59 -0400 Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 11:00:38 -0400 To: Max Heim ,mgs@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Mgs] Opinion on seats From: Barrie Robinson via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Max, A small thought ! I was suffering from = posterior ache when driving for over an = hour. When I had the seats done (1970) I had the = chap put in 3" of memory foam -WOW what a difference !!!!!! No more aches At 04:56 PM 4/7/2015 -0700, Max Heim via Mgs wrote: >Here=E2=80=99s a question=85 My project car came with a = >set off 1970-71 seats. The upholstery and foams = >were beyond repair, but I was intrigued by the = >frames. They have a locking backrest and a handy = >backrest adjustment, neither of which are = >features of my 66 seats. Not to mention a = >provision for headrests (unfortunately not = >included). I was thinking of restoring them with = >the Moss deluxe leather seat kits, which have = >more of a vintage look than the stock = >replacements. I was already going to install = >shoulder belts on this car (my co-drivers are = >tired of being tossed around on my backroad = >forays), so going to solid backrests with = >headrests is just a further step toward some = >degree of safety. It=E2=80=99s not quite authentic, = >but this build is going to be a Frankenstein, = >anyway. And it=E2=80=99s absolutely a rally driver and = >not a show car. Anyone have experience with = >these later seats pro or con? And does anyone = >have a set of used =E2=80=9Ceared=E2=80=9D headrests = >(1970-76)? They can be tatty since I would be = >recovering them. -- Max Heim '66 MGB GHN3L76149 = >If you're near Menlo Park, CA, it's the primer = >red one with chrome wires And now 67 MGB = >GHN3U137949G Old English White, off-premises for = >restoration = >_______________________________________________ = >Mgs@autox.team.net Donate: = >http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual = >donation $12.75 Archive: = >http://www.team.net/archive Forums: = >http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: = >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrie@look.ca Regards, Barrie Barrie Robinson Go with the flow - but paddle hard MGB GT V8 in concours condition Aston Martin DB 2/4 MkII under restoration www.AMFClub.com www.britcot.com www.vectisgroup.ca barrie@look.ca Barrie, Ontario 705-721-9060 = _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 01:58:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B49525845BE for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 01:58:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-8.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-8.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 090EB25845BE for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 01:27:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-8-imp with bizsmtp id DjZc1q01P4LtS4201jZcFd; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 08:33:36 +0100 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=qV0mfD4mAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=z1R5-WJlAAAA:8 a=GVsv9FZGGBGMomE7Gl0A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=o8hDQ0G7OvMA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=G_5s8neSAAAA:8 a=jUNebtbuld368NImwogA:9 a=92FFh3KFb2YREl2T:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=yHmpGuN2Kb8A:10 a=1GSbIA61q4gA:10 To: , References: <8912DE190A004041A6AA5036DC31EF98@paul> <10AB2AE8085C4047ACC2080815DFD9591C7C6BA7@DR-EX-MLB05.datacenter.dataresolution.net> <10AB2AE8085C4047ACC2080815DFD9591C7C8002@DR-EX-MLB05.datacenter.dataresolution.net> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 08:25:46 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] MGB Mk1 roadster seat belts From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============3019855288953210307== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01D0729E.C7131460" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01D0729E.C7131460 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'd misread your post and thought it was more forward on earlier cars, = as I have a 73 with rigid stalks and they barely reach past the seat = back, seat in about the mid-position = http://www.paulhunt73.webspace.virginmedia.com/mgb-stuff/images/scover35.= jpg. My mounting points are 5" from the junction of the heelboard and = the floor though, probably 4" forwards from the earlier position. I = thought the stalks today looked pretty long, so imagined they would hold = the lap part away from the body. That won't be the case in the earlier = car, but probably would in mine. PaulH. ----- Original Message -----=20 =20 I didn't either till I started researching seat belts that would fit. = When the retractable belts were standardized on US cars, the tunnel = point moved forward about a foot from the earlier position at the very = rear. This allowed the fitment of the rigid stalk type receiver. =20 When specifying the belt set currently sold under 222-216, I had the = rigid stalk extended so it could be used on the earlier cars as well as = later.=20 Kelvin.=20 From: MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 12:44 AM To: MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com; mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [MG-MGB] MGB Mk1 roadster seat belts =20 Thanks Kelvin - didn't know the tunnel point had moved. PaulH. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Kelvin Dodd doddk@mossmotors.com [MG-MGB]=20 To: 'MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com' ; 'mgs@autox.team.net'=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 7:04 PM Subject: RE: [MG-MGB] MGB Mk1 roadster seat belts =20 Paul.=20 If you are running a stowaway top there should be no problem with = bow clearance. You can use a non pendulum type of belt like the one I = sourced under Moss 222-216 = http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=3D102183 The inner latch support is longer than normal so it will reach back = to the more rearward mounting point on the tunnel on cars earlier than = 1973.=20 Kelvin.=20 From: MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com [mailto:MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 7:54 AM To: mgs@autox.team.net; MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com Subject: [MG-MGB] MGB Mk1 roadster seat belts =20 Has anyone fitted inertia reels to the mounting point on the rear = wheel arch - this is the forward one as pictured here = http://www.paulhunt73.webspace.virginmedia.com/mgb-stuff/images/seatbelt6= 7c.jpg, not the later one right at the back. Type used? Any issues? Or does it have to be statics on these? PaulH. __._,_.___ -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Posted by: Kelvin Dodd =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Reply via web post . Reply to sender . Reply to group . Start = a New Topic . Messages in this topic (7) =20 Visit Your Group=20 . Privacy . Unsubscribe . Terms of Use=20 . =20 __,_._,___ ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01D0729E.C7131460 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'd misread your post and thought it was more = forward on=20 earlier cars, as I have a 73 with rigid stalks and they barely reach = past the=20 seat back, seat in about the mid-position http://www.paulhunt73.webspace.virginmedia.com/mgb-stuff/ima= ges/scover35.jpg. =20 My mounting points are 5" from the junction of the heelboard and the = floor=20 though, probably 4" forwards from the earlier position.   I = thought=20 the stalks today looked pretty long, so imagined they would hold the lap = part=20 away from the body.  That won't be the case in the earlier car, but = probably would in mine.
 
PaulH.
 
----- Original Message -----

 

I = didn=92t=20 either till I started researching seat belts that would fit. When the=20 retractable belts were standardized on US cars, the tunnel point moved = forward=20 about a foot from the earlier position at the very rear. This allowed = the=20 fitment of the rigid stalk type receiver. 

When=20 specifying the belt set currently sold under 222-216, I had the rigid = stalk=20 extended so it could be used on the earlier cars as well as later.=20

Kelvin.=20

From: MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com=20 [mailto:MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, = 2015=20 12:44 AM
To: MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com;=20 mgs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [MG-MGB] MGB Mk1 roadster = seat=20 belts

 

Thanks Kelvin - = didn't know=20 the tunnel point had moved.

PaulH.

----- Original = Message=20 -----

From: Kelvin Dodd=20 doddk@mossmotors.com [MG-MGB]

To: 'MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com' ; = 'mgs@autox.team.net'=20

Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 7:04=20 PM

Subject: RE: [MG-MGB] MGB Mk1 roadster seat=20 belts

 

Paul.=20

If you are=20 running a stowaway top there should be no problem with bow = clearance. You=20 can use a non pendulum type of belt like the one I sourced under = Moss=20 222-216

http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=3D10= 2183

The inner=20 latch support is longer than normal so it will reach back to the = more=20 rearward mounting point on the tunnel on cars earlier than 1973.=20

Kelvin.=20

From: MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com = [mailto:MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com]= =20
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 7:54 AM
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S= ubject:=20 [MG-MGB] MGB Mk1 roadster seat belts

 

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Hi guys,

I= keep monitoring the posts and thinking longingly of the time I will be abl= e to drive our 1960 MGA.

Our car has been undergoing a body of= f, frame up restoration for going on 4 years.....
The restorer, H= oyt's in Sarasota do fantastic work but are sooooo slow... unless you h= ave lots of bucks or one of their main customers, like the Sarasota Car Mus= eum. Our small vehicle gets put to one side each time a more prestigious jo= b comes in...

Each weekly visit reveals more superb speci= mens in the workshops... and ours is proceeding - but slowly.

= At first, the pace suited us, as funding at a slow pace was easy... but it = has become more and more frustrating. We don't want to upset them too m= uch because we want a good job.... and we have considered taking the car to= another restorer - but the car is in pieces and who knows what might get l= ost.

Engine work was shipped out to a local engine shop and wa= s completed 2 years ago and is sitting on the restored frame.

= Bodywork has taken an age and the aluminum doors and hood had to be welded.=

https://www.dropbox.com/sc/6ipin4nqqu05g96/= AADJO8EnqBdJKxrfbkIA6cwEa

Allan
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Thu, 9 Apr 2015 13:50:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net (unknown [69.252.207.33]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B57422584778 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 13:03:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.97]) by resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id Dv8t1q00326dK1R01v9ZyW; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 19:09:33 +0000 Received: from mail-la0-f48.google.com ([209.85.215.48]) by resomta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id Dv7Y1q00U13DcGH01v7Z3k; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 19:07:33 +0000 Received: by laat2 with SMTP id t2so89668262laa.1 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 12:07:32 -0700 (PDT) Thu, 09 Apr 2015 12:07:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.136.166 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 12:07:32 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 13:07:32 -0600 Cc: MG List s=q20140121; t=1428606573; bh=O7wZ3NyRJ20yVNsHeVySabZDaXYUNLEI2m30sgqUEt8=; h=Received:Received:Received:MIME-Version:Received:Date:Message-ID: Subject:From:Content-Type; b=llqwbybiFH2SdOpJxTzabhy3Msf3PGjPYAF00nQFC57Qf6cwYzdWWsqiiYKzH1eoi 0OJoTfpcwohUNhwu/IX+MkaGtOKtaeAt7aCyrs+B6kqYW3ZoFN+fY42Y32xzJ69nMN xPxzh/QcfuPRtcvIcqmaPGueQWdIcnCOq7d6XDvvDvtnu0YrcO/O/qLGq45qeV6Ubt OzZhG31af6MF9TJ1Lj/WRoxZvDR7ZvioEMK1EbVRgK+bKLRMjetXIbVe613LPqdO1T HvK/Eeh03R+5JZTYCpcmYSesGKfZN67YYrgEQPTwjDiZmKzCOLjDdkT4ifpWDsqVr0 Cw8ETGYKrpkSw== Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGA 1960 still in full restoration From: Andrew Lundgren via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8307859420848970368== --001a11c3c1b819bf1a05134f5cf0 Four years is a LONG time to wait. It isn't getting any younger and I imagine you aren't either. Sounds like $ is the way to increase the speed... On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Thompson Allan via Mgs wrote: > Hi guys, > > I keep monitoring the posts and thinking longingly of the time I will be > able to drive our 1960 MGA. > > Our car has been undergoing a body off, frame up restoration for going on > 4 years..... > The restorer, Hoyt's in Sarasota do fantastic work but are sooooo slow... > unless you have lots of bucks or one of their main customers, like the > Sarasota Car Museum. Our small vehicle gets put to one side each time a > more prestigious job comes in... > > Each weekly visit reveals more superb specimens in the workshops... and > ours is proceeding - but slowly. > > At first, the pace suited us, as funding at a slow pace was easy... but it > has become more and more frustrating. We don't want to upset them too much > because we want a good job.... and we have considered taking the car to > another restorer - but the car is in pieces and who knows what might get > lost. > > Engine work was shipped out to a local engine shop and was completed 2 > years ago and is sitting on the restored frame. > > Bodywork has taken an age and the aluminum doors and hood had to be welded. > > https://www.dropbox.com/sc/6ipin4nqqu05g96/AADJO8EnqBdJKxrfbkIA6cwEa > > Allan > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/lundgren@byu.net > > --001a11c3c1b819bf1a05134f5cf0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Four years is a LONG time to wait.=C2=A0 It isn't gett= ing any younger and I imagine you aren't either.=C2=A0 Sounds like $ is= the way to increase the speed...

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Thompson Allan via M= gs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:
Hi guys,

<= /div>I keep monitoring the posts and thinking longingly of the time I will = be able to drive our 1960 MGA.

Our car has been undergoing a b= ody off, frame up restoration for going on 4 years.....
The resto= rer, Hoyt's in Sarasota do fantastic work but are sooooo slow... unless= you have lots of bucks or one of their main customers, like the Sarasota C= ar Museum. Our small vehicle gets put to one side each time a more prestigi= ous job comes in...

Each weekly visit reveals more superb= specimens in the workshops... and ours is proceeding - but slowly.

=
At first, the pace suited us, as funding at a slow pace was easy... b= ut it has become more and more frustrating. We don't want to upset them= too much because we want a good job.... and we have considered taking the = car to another restorer - but the car is in pieces and who knows what might= get lost.

Engine work was shipped out to a local engine shop = and was completed 2 years ago and is sitting on the restored frame.

=
Bodywork has taken an age and the aluminum doors and hood had to be w= elded.

https://www.dropbox.com/sc/6ipin4nqqu= 05g96/AADJO8EnqBdJKxrfbkIA6cwEa

Allan

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--001a11c3c1b819bf1a05134f5cf0-- --===============8307859420848970368== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============8307859420848970368==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 15:34:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5775F2584AF1 for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 15:34:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from epsilon.look.ca (epsilon.look.ca [216.66.192.6]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC44225844EF for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 14:33:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from e120-pool-d89a4df0.brdbnd.telnetcommunications.com ([216.154.77.240] helo=Windows7.look.ca) by epsilon.look.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YgJEe-0003Uq-6w; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 16:39:36 -0400 Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 16:31:52 -0400 To: Andrew Lundgren mail.com> References: Cc: MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGA 1960 still in full restoration From: Barrie Robinson via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2973101175646061352== boundary="=====================_1473765984==.ALT" --=====================_1473765984==.ALT Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey! How about 14 years for an engine rebuild !!!!!!! 2 years for a paint job - that's not so bad At 01:07 PM 4/9/2015 -0600, Andrew Lundgren via Mgs wrote: >Four years is a LONG time to wait.=C2 It isn't=20 >getting any younger and I imagine you aren't=20 >either.=C2 Sounds like $ is the way to increase the speed... > >On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Thompson Allan=20 >Hi guys, > >I keep monitoring the posts and thinking=20 >longingly of the time I will be able to drive our 1960 MGA. > >Our car has been undergoing a body off, frame up=20 >restoration for going on 4 years..... >The restorer, Hoyt's in Sarasota do fantastic=20 >work but are sooooo slow... unless you have lots=20 >of bucks or one of their main customers, like=20 >the Sarasota Car Museum. Our small vehicle gets=20 >put to one side each time a more prestigious job comes in... > >Each weekly visit reveals more superb specimens=20 >in the workshops... and ours is proceeding - but slowly. > >At first, the pace suited us, as funding at a=20 >slow pace was easy... but it has become more and=20 >more frustrating. We don't want to upset them=20 >too much because we want a good job.... and we=20 >have considered taking the car to another=20 >restorer - but the car is in pieces and who knows what might get lost. > >Engine work was shipped out to a local engine=20 >shop and was completed 2 years ago and is sitting on the restored frame. > >Bodywork has taken an age and the aluminum doors and hood had to be welded. > >https= ://www.dropbox.com/sc/6ipin4nqqu05g96/AADJO8EnqBdJKxrfbkIA6cwEa > >Allan > >_______________________________________________ > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation=C2 $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe:=20 >http://autox.te= am.net/mailman/options/mgs/lundgren@byu.net > > >_______________________________________________ > >Mgs@autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrie@look.ca Regards, Barrie Barrie Robinson Go with the flow - but paddle hard MGB GT V8 in concours condition Aston Martin DB 2/4 MkII under restoration www.AMFClub.com www.britcot.com www.vectisgroup.ca barrie@look.ca Barrie, Ontario 705-721-9060=20 --=====================_1473765984==.ALT Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey!

How about 14 years for an engine rebuild !!!!!!!
2 years for a paint job - that's not so bad


At 01:07 PM 4/9/2015 -0600, Andrew Lundgren via Mgs wrote:
Four years is a LONG time to wait.=C2  It isn't getting any younger and I imagine you aren't either.=C2  Sounds like $ is the way to increase the speed...

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Thompson Allan via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:
Hi guys,

I keep monitoring the posts and thinking longingly of the time I will be able to drive our 1960 MGA.

Our car has been undergoing a body off, frame up restoration for going on 4 years.....
The restorer, Hoyt's in Sarasota do fantastic work but are sooooo slow... unless you have lots of bucks or one of their main customers, like the Sarasota Car Museum. Our small vehicle gets put to one side each time a more prestigious job comes in...

Each weekly visit reveals more superb specimens in the workshops... and ours is proceeding - but slowly.

At first, the pace suited us, as funding at a slow pace was easy... but it has become more and more frustrating. We don't want to upset them too much because we want a good job.... and we have considered taking the car to another restorer - but the car is in pieces and who knows what might get lost.

Engine work was shipped out to a local engine shop and was completed 2 years ago and is sitting on the restored frame.

Bodywork has taken an age and the aluminum doors and hood had to be welded.

https://www.dropbox.com/sc/6ipin4nqqu05g96/AADJO8EnqBdJKxrfbkIA6cwEa

Allan

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Barrie Robinson                            Go with the flow - but paddle hard
MGB GT V8 in concours condition
Aston Martin DB 2/4 MkII under restoration
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www.britcot.com www.vectisgroup.ca
barrie@look.ca
Barrie, Ontario
705-721-9060 --=====================_1473765984==.ALT-- --===============2973101175646061352== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============2973101175646061352==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 9 18:08:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A9925852FD for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 18:08:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp672.redcondor.net (smtp672.redcondor.net [208.80.206.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855C9258035F for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 17:19:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailproxy4.av-mx.com ([137.118.40.134]) by smtp672.redcondor.net ({ab9b8a0f-47dc-4027-bad5-230251ed7875}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20150409232547318 for ; Thu, 09 Apr 2015 23:25:47 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.106] (64-179-194-246.hartcom.net [64.179.194.246]) (Authenticated sender: jimray@hartcom.net) by mailproxy4.av-mx.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 8FB288025B for ; Thu, 9 Apr 2015 19:25:43 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 19:25:53 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 To: MG Digest Subject: [Mgs] MGB steering problem From: Jim Ray via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============3403965603237127198== boundary="------------000400040008010201040704" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000400040008010201040704 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I hope someone can help me. I have a 1980 MGB that has been lowered with parts sourced from Moss Motors. Since lowering the car I have an annoying vibration in the steering wheel whenever I hit a bump. I had the suspension checked when I lowered the car and was told that everything was in good shape except the front shocks, which needed to be rebuilt. I'm not sure what bump steer is so this might be what I am experiencing. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance for your advice. Jim Ray --------------000400040008010201040704 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

I hope someone can help me. I have a 1980 MGB that has been lowered with parts sourced from Moss Motors. Since lowering the car I have an annoying vibration in the steering wheel whenever I hit a bump. I had the suspension checked when I lowered the car and was told that everything was in good shape except the front shocks, which needed to be rebuilt. I'm not sure what bump steer is so this might be what I am experiencing.

 

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks in advance for your advice.

 

Jim Ray

--------------000400040008010201040704-- --===============3403965603237127198== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============3403965603237127198==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 10 01:04:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C93525853EF for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 01:04:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm43-vm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (unknown [216.109.114.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BA7E258021A for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 00:29:22 -0600 (MDT) t=1428647712; bh=MQoul3kNGnvRMeT5B6+nAPYcPxvH3XGI3aBhYZ7AGUk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=kGNu65360m5mZ0GU2Qg0fAnfGkVygws618p/x3tzWLp2bcxu86S/993T1i1Il1VGHfLDRo5src4ZwUnvfhyHC2kYvEd/6XiXsT6GWPINJU6H4eaJ/z46cJjGvLalRIkMAsmVprK/ECbvJ6kKuOnFrQ6H01H6uQEgHB2Fn/YwImNhL7wl8idukSeSoh/pOP9gYfB1iviLoTHGyQexsSAa0QKbhofWPuuwYA81UqLhJpeCOFRcyLC+Y6K1XdK1nigD7dP7B/yw9Y/a+dj3cyAKnGKohkkpLQFLuh/OVk9N/AckDU8NjUAMkp4+90sNi/Bo+DPrQImoyQYViocnMu4SNg== Received: from [66.196.81.172] by nm43.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2015 06:35:12 -0000 Received: from [98.139.215.229] by tm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2015 06:35:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1069.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Apr 2015 06:35:12 -0000 vPK0wol6K_lhT6fD1u3obMhHjyOYH7Lw_Qw5_JeRnttWgfIKM9XFCbN9rVBOEsFiBtwSrkOD5Oev skmDPOcWSv_WCj5R5c2Ly.y6fk011g63QMTqbg0OB_bVM2TQlQC2NHCCdiJu0OsD6U1pErXuLiYq T_lKYruPcekZWTEsyNWPbm7EDuMGjvSXifoxSor2A.weiM6YQ.sA8lVZSPe8Zp8gddKGWn1qhhbR pFNb4nSz5oUJtENXoIZWl.UAMQ7PepqDaF33L8ZbCy5hhPKOUcYGDOtuF4YFDvw9sHRUnkKZCBSJ uk9RfS5zVEz4AwSqogabzS5NF5UwpaGAgLa6e.V4rSdNAHkDy5hSJrQObGD6r_.bn_976u_2B5NR E5CseekpAhxXQagIYIyAIqO_MWGEMliX8bOyPPkOcR2z4N.yiIxNxlDJF_PTIHYn1l4bq2UxCzm0 3e0lsfImiaA7uMEM- Received: by 66.196.80.146; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 06:35:12 +0000 Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 06:35:11 +0000 (UTC) To: "mgs@autox.team.net" References: <55270A81.1040801@hartcom.net> Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB steering problem From: David Breneman via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net From: Jim Ray via Mgs > Since lowering the car I have an annoying vibration in the steering > wheel whenever I hit a bump. I had the suspension checked when I > lowered the car and was told that everything was in good shape > except the front shocks, which needed to be rebuilt. I'm not sure > what bump steer is so this might be what I am experiencing.> >Any thoughts? I've never heard the phrase "bump steer" before, but if the front shocks are bad, you would definitely feel more than the typical "road feel" feedback in the steering wheel. "Vibration" is typically a faster action than, say, "rattle." But either way, if your front suspension needs to be serviced, you would feel the evidence of that through the steering wheel. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 10 02:09:55 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C422D2586139 for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 02:09:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-8.server.virginmedia.net (unknown [80.0.253.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E619B25809EC for ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 01:33:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-8-imp with bizsmtp id E7eu1q00F4LtS42017eufQ; Fri, 10 Apr 2015 08:38:54 +0100 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=G80_r-m2kc_GOT8x6_UA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hBoR2CbjKHzd_EIDU_0A:9 a=awG87IVWKifUeKFA:21 a=6UIaq3Bcl8oA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 To: "Jim Ray" , "MG Digest" References: <55270A81.1040801@hartcom.net> Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 08:40:10 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB steering problem From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============4858273515101054982== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00A8_01D07369.F45E85A0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01D07369.F45E85A0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bump steer is different to vibration. Bump steer is when the trackrods = are not at the idle angle on smooth surfaces, and that angle increases = when you hit a bump i.e. compress the suspension. That effectively = pulls the wheels in or give more toe in. Bad enough if both wheels go = up by the same amount, but if only one wheel hits a bump only that turns = in so with the other wheel pointing as it was the car changes direction. Vibration over a bump is something loose, or something hitting something = it shouldn't i.e. insufficient clearance somewhere, or something worn = i.e. too much clearance. If the damper bearings are badly worn it could = be them, but usually it is just the oil seals that go. It could also be = king pins, bearings, upper and lower trunnions, track-rod ends, anything = in the rack, the UJ, or the column. It could be that the problem was = always there, but the bump-steer from lowering the suspension has made = it noticeable. PaulH. ----- Original Message -----=20 I hope someone can help me. I have a 1980 MGB that has been lowered = with parts sourced from Moss Motors. Since lowering the car I have an = annoying vibration in the steering wheel whenever I hit a bump. ------=_NextPart_000_00A8_01D07369.F45E85A0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Bump steer is different to vibration.  Bump = steer is when=20 the trackrods are not at the idle angle on smooth surfaces, and that = angle=20 increases when you hit a bump i.e. compress the suspension.  That=20 effectively pulls the wheels in or give more toe in.  Bad enough if = both=20 wheels go up by the same amount, but if only one wheel hits a bump only = that=20 turns in so with the other wheel pointing as it was the car changes=20 direction.
 
Vibration over a bump is something loose, or = something=20 hitting something it shouldn't i.e. insufficient clearance somewhere, or = something worn i.e. too much clearance.  If the damper bearings are = badly=20 worn it could be them, but usually it is just the oil seals that = go.  It=20 could also be king pins, bearings, upper and lower trunnions, track-rod = ends,=20 anything in the rack, the UJ, or the column.  It could be that the = problem=20 was always there, but the bump-steer from lowering the suspension has = made it=20 noticeable.
 
PaulH.
----- Original Message ----- =

I hope someone can help me. I have a 1980 MGB = that has been=20 lowered with parts sourced from Moss Motors. Since lowering the car I = have an=20 annoying vibration in the steering wheel whenever I hit a = bump.

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CR On 4/11/2015 1:42 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Mgs wrote: > April, 1991. Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston had top hits. The Soviet > Union is crumbling. > The Gulf War begins. And on the 11th the domain Team.Net is registered. > > Happy birthday to us, 24 years and still kicking. Formed out of the > Usenet rec.autos tree, > it started with just 2 lists, autox and british-cars. It became large > enough and busy enough > that the officials at the U noticed that a large amount of network > traffic was coming from one > certain machine in my office. That is what prompted the move to a > private server, which has been > in my basement for many years. Well, we are NOT running on the same > server from back then, which I > recall was one of the first 120 Megahertz systems in the valley > outside of universities. With the > CS departments work with Hewlett-Packard, I had a connection. > > A lot has changed over the years, folks have come and gone, some have > been hanging out here for > decades. We've lost a few good ones, but many of us have found lasting > friendships from list > communications. Back in the early days there wasn't much besides > Team.Net. I think the 1997 > SCCA Solo II nationals had something like 60% of the entrants being > autox list subscribers. > Those were the days. > > But still here, still providing a valuable service to those who use > it. Thanks to all of us > for making Team.Net what it is. > > Happy Birthday. > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins@ktc.com > _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 12 17:12:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0118625844E6 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 17:12:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from pop04.mail.atl.earthlink.net (pop04.mail.atl.earthlink.net [207.69.200.28]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5AA72580179; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 16:51:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from user-0c90gaa.cable.mindspring.com ([24.144.65.74] helo=nHP) by pop04.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1YhQom-0007Oi-00; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:57:32 -0400 To: , "MG Digest" , Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 18:57:31 -0400 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AdB1cvusO2mzYExbTgGpaGI1ywxaXw== Subject: [Mgs] MGB, Sprite Parts on eBay From: Norm via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2540329827866265996== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008D_01D07552.87EA9450" Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01D07552.87EA9450 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings All. Even though all of my British cars are gone, I'm still finding British car & race car things in my garage. I just put a few on eBay. * Sprite h.d. sway bar - 281659956854 * MGB Tonneau Cover - 281659973105 * Lucas Driving light (NOS) - 281660830571 In addition, I have other things that I'll sell to list members at reasonable prices. Make me offers please. They won't be going on eBay Please make offers directly to me at this email address. I'll send pics if needed. * Radiator from my Turner Mk I. Had it boiled out a number of years ago. Eventually replaced with small aluminum unit. * MGB Tubes - Michelin (2) Never used. * 12V Perma Cool fan, 9" blades, 9-1/2" top to bottom, 10-1/2" wide * Painless WP Cirkit Boss 7-cirduit wiring kit, PN 70207 * Lucas side-entry Dizzy cap #163-805 * Bundle of 24 bungy ball-ties * Miata windscreen (thought I might use it on my last MGB. Didn't.) * NAPA 1-4822 Transmission Cooler radiator * NAPA 755-1569 4-wire flat male wire & socket for trailer hitch wiring Out-dated harnesses: (G-Force DOES re-web) * G-Force 6/2010 Sub-straps for 6-point harness - red. Never used. Can be re-webbed by G-Force. * G-Force 6-point Cam-Lock harness dated 11/2009 which can be re-webbed by G-Force. * M&R Cam-lock 6-point harness in blue. Dated 10/2007. This set for show only. It can NOT be re-webbed. Any questions, requests for pics, email me. Norm ------=_NextPart_000_008D_01D07552.87EA9450 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Greetings = All.

 

Even though all of my British cars are gone, I'm still = finding British car & race car things in my garage.  I just put a few on = eBay.

*    Sprite h.d. sway = bar - 281659956854

*    = MGB Tonneau Cover - 281659973105

*    = Lucas Driving light (NOS) - 281660830571

 

 

In addition, = I have other things that I'll sell to list members at reasonable = prices.  Make me offers = please.  They won't be = going on eBay  Please make = offers directly to me at this email address.  I'll send pics if = needed.

 

*    = Radiator from my Turner Mk I.  Had it boiled out a number of = years ago.  Eventually = replaced with small aluminum unit. 

*    = MGB Tubes - Michelin  = (2) Never used.

*    12V Perma Cool fan, = 9" blades, 9-1/2" top to bottom, 10-1/2" = wide

*    Painless WP Cirkit = Boss 7-cirduit wiring kit, PN 70207

*    = Lucas side-entry Dizzy cap #163-805

*    = Bundle of 24 bungy ball-ties

*    = Miata windscreen (thought I might use it on my last MGB.  Didn't.)

*    = NAPA 1-4822 Transmission Cooler radiator

*    = NAPA 755-1569  = 4-wire flat male wire & socket for trailer hitch = wiring

 

Out-dated harnesses:  (G-Force DOES = re-web)

*    G-Force 6/2010 = Sub-straps for 6-point harness - red.  Never used.  Can be re-webbed by = G-Force.

*    G-Force 6-point = Cam-Lock harness dated 11/2009 which can be re-webbed by = G-Force.

*    M&R Cam-lock = 6-point harness in blue.  = Dated 10/2007.  This = set for show only.  It can = NOT be re-webbed.

 

Any = questions, requests for pics, email me.

 

Norm

 

 

------=_NextPart_000_008D_01D07552.87EA9450-- --===============2540329827866265996== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============2540329827866265996==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 13 06:35:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49780258490A for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 06:35:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m08.mx.aol.com (omr-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.222.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0978C258572F for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 05:59:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mae02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mae02.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.142]) by omr-m08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A57C9700000A0 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 08:05:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.104] (host-68-169-171-112.BAKOLT1.epbfi.com [68.169.171.112]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mae02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 1229A3800008A for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 08:05:53 -0400 (EDT) References: Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 08:05:51 -0400 To: "mgs@autox.team.net" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1428926753; bh=vYTOA8jPZNoYrHCzHCAJdIFjTlYAGm0/+pQeNa2iCMw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=qz8n25jJRCyigQ6wiNPuT2UTp4VzdW8/DBfqBrd247Ar0jZ7zEl5PvJMvec64crUS x5xEAQte84Lv39JXzGUFlTlkHXjB0DD7hgyh7m/Hc+Ldj/ZOrAvvrnomYWyxsdR1sy 9OH5XmwvRC6F96IVkyCHcjkll2CZvb245iEzx5TE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afe8e552bb12135f0 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 95, Issue 7 From: "David H. Matthews via Mgs" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Happy Birthday! Sold my MGB awhile back but still enjoy the list. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 12, 2015, at 2:00 PM, mgs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > > Send Mgs mailing list submissions to > mgs@autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > mgs-request@autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > mgs-owner@autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Mgs digest..." > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. A couple of dozen (Mark J Bradakis) > 2. Re: A couple of dozen (Charley & Peggy Robinson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 12:42:41 -0600 > From: Mark J Bradakis > To: mgs , MG > Subject: [Mgs] A couple of dozen > Message-ID: <55296B21.1010708@bradakis.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > April, 1991. Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston had top hits. The Soviet Union is crumbling. > The Gulf War begins. And on the 11th the domain Team.Net is registered. > > Happy birthday to us, 24 years and still kicking. Formed out of the Usenet rec.autos tree, > it started with just 2 lists, autox and british-cars. It became large enough and busy enough > that the officials at the U noticed that a large amount of network traffic was coming from one > certain machine in my office. That is what prompted the move to a private server, which has been > in my basement for many years. Well, we are NOT running on the same server from back then, which I > recall was one of the first 120 Megahertz systems in the valley outside of universities. With the > CS departments work with Hewlett-Packard, I had a connection. > > A lot has changed over the years, folks have come and gone, some have been hanging out here for > decades. We've lost a few good ones, but many of us have found lasting friendships from list > communications. Back in the early days there wasn't much besides Team.Net. I think the 1997 > SCCA Solo II nationals had something like 60% of the entrants being autox list subscribers. > Those were the days. > > But still here, still providing a valuable service to those who use it. Thanks to all of us > for making Team.Net what it is. > > Happy Birthday. > > mjb. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 10:07:13 -0500 > From: Charley & Peggy Robinson > To: Mark J Bradakis , mgs , MG > > Subject: Re: [Mgs] A couple of dozen > Message-ID: <552A8A21.2020308@ktc.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Happy birthday to your brainchild, Mark! > > CR > >> On 4/11/2015 1:42 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Mgs wrote: >> April, 1991. Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston had top hits. The Soviet >> Union is crumbling. >> The Gulf War begins. And on the 11th the domain Team.Net is registered. >> >> Happy birthday to us, 24 years and still kicking. Formed out of the >> Usenet rec.autos tree, >> it started with just 2 lists, autox and british-cars. It became large >> enough and busy enough >> that the officials at the U noticed that a large amount of network >> traffic was coming from one >> certain machine in my office. That is what prompted the move to a >> private server, which has been >> in my basement for many years. Well, we are NOT running on the same >> server from back then, which I >> recall was one of the first 120 Megahertz systems in the valley >> outside of universities. With the >> CS departments work with Hewlett-Packard, I had a connection. >> >> A lot has changed over the years, folks have come and gone, some have >> been hanging out here for >> decades. We've lost a few good ones, but many of us have found lasting >> friendships from list >> communications. Back in the early days there wasn't much besides >> Team.Net. I think the 1997 >> SCCA Solo II nationals had something like 60% of the entrants being >> autox list subscribers. >> Those were the days. >> >> But still here, still providing a valuable service to those who use >> it. Thanks to all of us >> for making Team.Net what it is. >> >> Happy Birthday. >> >> mjb. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins@ktc.com > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Mgs mailing list > Mgs@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Mgs Digest, Vol 95, Issue 7 > ********************************** _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 13 09:52:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E9682584989 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 09:52:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9337A2584614 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 09:06:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.225]) by resqmta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id FTBy1q00F4s37d401TCBSJ; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:12:11 +0000 Received: from mail-lb0-f177.google.com ([209.85.217.177]) by resomta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id FTAA1q00C3qDwFD01TABUS; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 15:10:11 +0000 Received: by lbcga7 with SMTP id ga7so61717073lbc.1 for ; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Mon, 13 Apr 2015 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.136.166 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.136.166 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 08:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 09:10:10 -0600 To: MG List Subject: [Mgs] Missing messages from list still... From: Andrew Lundgren via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8014799482960007609== --001a11c34a3c94a15c05139c8222 The message below is the only message I got from this thread, in fact from the list for the weekend. Is there something that needs to be done since the list rework to get messages to come though? Andrew On Apr 13, 2015 6:44 AM, "David H. Matthews via Mgs" wrote: > Happy Birthday! Sold my MGB awhile back but still enjoy the list. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Apr 12, 2015, at 2:00 PM, mgs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > > > > Send Mgs mailing list submissions to > > mgs@autox.team.net > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > mgs-request@autox.team.net > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > mgs-owner@autox.team.net > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of Mgs digest..." > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. A couple of dozen (Mark J Bradakis) > > 2. Re: A couple of dozen (Charley & Peggy Robinson) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 12:42:41 -0600 > > From: Mark J Bradakis > > To: mgs , MG > > Subject: [Mgs] A couple of dozen > > Message-ID: <55296B21.1010708@bradakis.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > > > April, 1991. Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston had top hits. The Soviet > Union is crumbling. > > The Gulf War begins. And on the 11th the domain Team.Net is registered. > > > > Happy birthday to us, 24 years and still kicking. Formed out of the > Usenet rec.autos tree, > > it started with just 2 lists, autox and british-cars. It became large > enough and busy enough > > that the officials at the U noticed that a large amount of network > traffic was coming from one > > certain machine in my office. That is what prompted the move to a > private server, which has been > > in my basement for many years. Well, we are NOT running on the same > server from back then, which I > > recall was one of the first 120 Megahertz systems in the valley outside > of universities. With the > > CS departments work with Hewlett-Packard, I had a connection. > > > > A lot has changed over the years, folks have come and gone, some have > been hanging out here for > > decades. We've lost a few good ones, but many of us have found lasting > friendships from list > > communications. Back in the early days there wasn't much besides > Team.Net. I think the 1997 > > SCCA Solo II nationals had something like 60% of the entrants being > autox list subscribers. > > Those were the days. > > > > But still here, still providing a valuable service to those who use it. > Thanks to all of us > > for making Team.Net what it is. > > > > Happy Birthday. > > > > mjb. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 10:07:13 -0500 > > From: Charley & Peggy Robinson > > To: Mark J Bradakis , mgs , MG > > > > Subject: Re: [Mgs] A couple of dozen > > Message-ID: <552A8A21.2020308@ktc.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > > > Happy birthday to your brainchild, Mark! > > > > CR > > > >> On 4/11/2015 1:42 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Mgs wrote: > >> April, 1991. Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston had top hits. The Soviet > >> Union is crumbling. > >> The Gulf War begins. And on the 11th the domain Team.Net is registered. > >> > >> Happy birthday to us, 24 years and still kicking. Formed out of the > >> Usenet rec.autos tree, > >> it started with just 2 lists, autox and british-cars. It became large > >> enough and busy enough > >> that the officials at the U noticed that a large amount of network > >> traffic was coming from one > >> certain machine in my office. That is what prompted the move to a > >> private server, which has been > >> in my basement for many years. Well, we are NOT running on the same > >> server from back then, which I > >> recall was one of the first 120 Megahertz systems in the valley > >> outside of universities. With the > >> CS departments work with Hewlett-Packard, I had a connection. > >> > >> A lot has changed over the years, folks have come and gone, some have > >> been hanging out here for > >> decades. We've lost a few good ones, but many of us have found lasting > >> friendships from list > >> communications. Back in the early days there wasn't much besides > >> Team.Net. I think the 1997 > >> SCCA Solo II nationals had something like 60% of the entrants being > >> autox list subscribers. > >> Those were the days. > >> > >> But still here, still providing a valuable service to those who use > >> it. Thanks to all of us > >> for making Team.Net what it is. > >> > >> Happy Birthday. > >> > >> mjb. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Mgs@autox.team.net > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins@ktc.com > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Subject: Digest Footer > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs mailing list > > Mgs@autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of Mgs Digest, Vol 95, Issue 7 > > ********************************** > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/lundgren@byu.net > --001a11c34a3c94a15c05139c8222 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The message below is the only message I got from this thread= , in fact from the list for the weekend.

Is there something that needs to be done since the list rewo= rk to get messages to come though?

Andrew

On Apr 13, 2015 6:44 AM, "David H. Matthews= via Mgs" <mgs@autox.team.net= > wrote:
Happ= y Birthday! Sold my MGB awhile back but still enjoy the list.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 12, 2015, at 2:00 PM, mgs-request@autox.team.net wrote:
>
> Send Mgs mailing list submissions to
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 mgs@autox.team.net<= /a>
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 mgs-request= @autox.team.net
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 mgs-owner@aut= ox.team.net
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Mgs digest..."
>
>
> Donate: = > Suggested annual donation=C2=A0 $12.75
> Archive: htt= p://www.team.net/archive
> Forums: http:= //www.team.net/forums
>
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A01. A couple of dozen (Mark J Bradakis)
>=C2=A0 =C2=A02. Re: A couple of dozen (Charley & Peggy Robinson) >
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------=
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 12:42:41 -0600
> From: Mark J Bradakis <mark@br= adakis.com>
> To: mgs <mgs@Autox.Team.Net>, MG <mg-t@autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Mgs] A couple of dozen
> Message-ID: <55296= B21.1010708@bradakis.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8; format=3Dflowed
>
> April, 1991. Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston had top hits. The Soviet= Union is crumbling.
> The Gulf War begins. And on the 11th the domain Team.Net is registered= .
>
> Happy birthday to us, 24 years and still kicking. Formed out of the Us= enet rec.autos tree,
> it started with just 2 lists, autox and british-cars. It became large = enough and busy enough
> that the officials at the U noticed that a large amount of network tra= ffic was coming from one
> certain machine in my office. That is what prompted the move to a priv= ate server, which has been
> in my basement for many years. Well, we are NOT running on the same se= rver from back then, which I
> recall was one of the first 120 Megahertz systems in the valley outsid= e of universities. With the
> CS departments work with Hewlett-Packard, I had a connection.
>
> A lot has changed over the years, folks have come and gone, some have = been hanging out here for
> decades. We've lost a few good ones, but many of us have found las= ting friendships from list
> communications. Back in the early days there wasn't much besides T= eam.Net. I think the 1997
> SCCA Solo II nationals had something like 60% of the entrants being au= tox list subscribers.
> Those were the days.
>
> But still here, still providing a valuable service to those who use it= .=C2=A0 Thanks to all of us
> for making Team.Net what it is.
>
> Happy Birthday.
>
> mjb.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 10:07:13 -0500
> From: Charley & Peggy=C2=A0 Robinson <ccrobins@ktc.com>
> To: Mark J Bradakis <mark@brad= akis.com>, mgs <mgs@Autox.T= eam.Net>,=C2=A0 MG
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <mg-t@autox.tea= m.net>
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] A couple of dozen
> Message-ID: <552A8A21.2= 020308@ktc.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dwindows-1252; format=3Dflowed
>
> Happy birthday to your brainchild, Mark!
>
> CR
>
>> On 4/11/2015 1:42 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Mgs wrote:
>> April, 1991. Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston had top hits. The So= viet
>> Union is crumbling.
>> The Gulf War begins. And on the 11th the domain Team.Net is regist= ered.
>>
>> Happy birthday to us, 24 years and still kicking. Formed out of th= e
>> Usenet rec.autos tree,
>> it started with just 2 lists, autox and british-cars. It became la= rge
>> enough and busy enough
>> that the officials at the U noticed that a large amount of network=
>> traffic was coming from one
>> certain machine in my office. That is what prompted the move to a<= br> >> private server, which has been
>> in my basement for many years. Well, we are NOT running on the sam= e
>> server from back then, which I
>> recall was one of the first 120 Megahertz systems in the valley >> outside of universities. With the
>> CS departments work with Hewlett-Packard, I had a connection.
>>
>> A lot has changed over the years, folks have come and gone, some h= ave
>> been hanging out here for
>> decades. We've lost a few good ones, but many of us have found= lasting
>> friendships from list
>> communications. Back in the early days there wasn't much besid= es
>> Team.Net. I think the 1997
>> SCCA Solo II nationals had something like 60% of the entrants bein= g
>> autox list subscribers.
>> Those were the days.
>>
>> But still here, still providing a valuable service to those who us= e
>> it.=C2=A0 Thanks to all of us
>> for making Team.Net what it is.
>>
>> Happy Birthday.
>>
>> mjb.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Mgs@autox.team.net
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation=C2=A0 $12.75
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>> Forums: h= ttp://www.team.net/forums
>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/m= gs/ccrobins@ktc.com
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Digest Footer
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mgs mailing list
> Mgs@autox.team.net
> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of Mgs Digest, Vol 95, Issue 7
> **********************************
_______________________________________________

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--001a11c34a3c94a15c05139c8222-- --===============8014799482960007609== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============8014799482960007609==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 15 06:43:02 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EBA52584F12 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 06:43:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from pop05.mail.atl.earthlink.net (pop05.mail.atl.earthlink.net [207.69.200.58]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9A1525845EB for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 06:29:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from user-0c90gaa.cable.mindspring.com ([24.144.65.74] helo=nHP) by pop05.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1YiMXN-0003cT-00 for mgs@autox.team.net; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 08:35:25 -0400 To: "MG Digest" Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 08:35:26 -0400 Thread-Index: AdB3eH/y0weAfNf1RQW9iyD//oNKEQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Mgs] Tonneau Cover Stowage Bag on eBay From: Norm via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============2732381587955346006== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01D07757.1F987690" Content-Language: en-us This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01D07757.1F987690 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Last night I put what should be the last of MGB things on eBay - a Stowage Bag for the Tonneau Cover. Can be used for all Tonneau Covers 1962 to 1980. It is Item 281662789716. And, there are still 3 days to bid on the Tonneau Cover itself. Looks like it is the only early, non-headrest cover on eBay now. Also have a box of things like used valve cover & Carb insulation panel, and more that I'll post here when I do an inventory. Better one of you gets it than the garbage dump or recycler. Thanks for helping me clean out the garage. Norm ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01D07757.1F987690 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Last night I put what should be the last of MGB things = on eBay - a Stowage Bag for the Tonneau Cover.  Can be used for all Tonneau = Covers 1962 to 1980.

 

It is Item = 281662789716.  =

 

And, there are still 3 days to bid on the Tonneau = Cover itself.  Looks like = it is the only early, non-headrest cover on eBay = now.

 

Also have a box of things like used valve cover = & Carb insulation panel, and more that I'll post here when I do an = inventory.  Better one of = you gets it than the garbage dump or recycler.

 

 

Thanks for helping me clean out the = garage.

 

 

Norm

 

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I filled the tire last night, and go= t the tonneau on ready for this morning. I look at the weather channel app = and its 45F, perfect. Traffic was a little heavy, because Minnesotans can&#= 39;t merge. But otherwise, a wonderful drive in. I think I have a air leak= in the carbs somewhere, it just doesn't want to idle in the cold.
=
So first drive and the list gets longer for things that want attention.= New tires (10 years old), steering rack is vague, carbs seem to leak. An= d the body work I've ignored for 10 years.
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I went to do the = 'second' drive of the year for the '76 on Sunday (the first was only 5 mile= s to get the dust off) - dead battery, totally flat.... Didn't have time to=
mess around j= umping it, and I think it needs to sit on a charger anyway. Hopefully can g= et the battery to the local shop on Friday.

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA

From: Paul Root v= ia Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" <mgs@autox.team.net>
<= b>Sent: Wednesday, April 15, = 2015 9:31 AM
Subject: = [Mgs] First drive of the year

I= got my MG out a couple weeks ago, then it turned cold again, so it sat in = the garage. Yesterday I thought about driving it to work, but the rear ri= ght tire was a little flat, it has a nail or something. And other excuses m= ade me go to the daily driver.

I filled the tire last night, and got= the tonneau on ready for this morning. I look at the weather channel app a= nd its 45F, perfect. Traffic was a little heavy, because Minnesotans can't = merge. But otherwise, a wonderful drive in. I think I have a air leak in t= he carbs somewhere, it just doesn't want to idle in the cold.

So fi= rst drive and the list gets longer for things that want attention. New ti= res (10 years old), steering rack is vague, carbs seem to leak. And the bod= y work I've ignored for 10 years.

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------=_Part_4325162_1915508228.1429106558651-- --===============1285779420270123741== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============1285779420270123741==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 15 12:47:15 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A4B25864B1 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 12:47:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from alpha.look.ca (alpha.look.ca [216.66.192.2]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80EE25863C3 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 12:29:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from e120-pool-d89a4df0.brdbnd.telnetcommunications.com ([216.154.77.240] helo=Windows7.look.ca) by alpha.look.ca with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YiS9d-0008Ee-Lg for mgs@autox.team.net; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 14:35:17 -0400 Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 14:35:18 -0400 To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] HELLO Lou From: Barrie Robinson via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Is Lou Palmer still out there ? Regards, Barrie Barrie Robinson Go with the flow - but paddle hard MGB GT V8 in concours condition Aston Martin DB 2/4 MkII under restoration www.AMFClub.com www.britcot.com www.vectisgroup.ca barrie@look.ca Barrie, Ontario 705-721-9060 _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 15 18:47:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050B62584C14 for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 18:47:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from pacmmta54.windstream.net (pacmmta54.windstream.net [162.39.147.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06616258080C for ; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 18:18:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([72.172.28.225]) by pacmmta54.windstream.net with pacmmta54 id GQR31q00S4rQxyY01QR3uB; Wed, 15 Apr 2015 20:25:04 -0400 a=Fcrx4PSrRH1ZuqVmo8lkRw==:117 a=Fcrx4PSrRH1ZuqVmo8lkRw==:17 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=naziTCeN6agA:10 a=Ov22w-J6AAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=1LKbUtWiRxs37zJAuwwA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=Ku_xKvBxq3wA:10 a=ZmZ5JPF2HZsA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=A0POvp9z33GEHFAJbMQA:9 a=6aN32rssfZ0JVaxF:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Authentication-Results: pacmmta54.windstream.net ; auth=pass smtp.auth=ccrobins@ktc.com Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 19:24:58 -0500 Organization: Computer Helpers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 To: Dan DiBiase , Mga List References: <625007903.4325163.1429106558655.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] First drive of the year From: Charley & Peggy Robinson via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============6422019366587607005== boundary="------------040108030706060605070803" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040108030706060605070803 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Get the battery to the shop? Don't you have a battery charger? CR On 4/15/2015 9:02 AM, Dan DiBiase via Mgs wrote: > I went to do the 'second' drive of the year for the '76 on Sunday (the > first was only 5 miles to get the dust off) - dead battery, totally > flat.... Didn't have time to > mess around jumping it, and I think it needs to sit on a charger > anyway. Hopefully can get the battery to the local shop on Friday. > > Dan D > '76B, '65B > Central NJ USA --------------040108030706060605070803 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Get the battery to the shop?  Don't you have a battery charger?

CR

On 4/15/2015 9:02 AM, Dan DiBiase via Mgs wrote:
I went to do the 'second' drive of the year for the '76 on Sunday (the first was only 5 miles to get the dust off) - dead battery, totally flat.... Didn't have time to
mess around jumping it, and I think it needs to sit on a charger anyway. Hopefully can get the battery to the local shop on Friday.

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA

--------------040108030706060605070803-- --===============6422019366587607005== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============6422019366587607005==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 05:20:17 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203E72585260 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 05:20:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm34-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm34-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B922580104 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 05:00:08 -0600 (MDT) t=1429182374; bh=7g1aJxQcqw4SHMvldvclHyQFeqjU0YjDt3anr6XLWvI=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=XqZyPnhKfQdTZoS8dhrMWxHLTH29+LVecHYmwA+kdVT7JDNoQxH/qI92dAmJJiVgW6szBZiHpzYlnFJMVfVMVraSGk6JwLywRbYggG7CKveGDDttMud9SDNwC8xBXt7SSq+qHwvIx/q9xlse10pO2jDrtEz1aK+WbCH8nwwazJ9Bt/lOHIT+6Okk0heFVU6VZ90O23ITdlbZrYe3e3RKVyYLcsGEn95sKYjj1NgbfqgBdklh5jUv/YWQjWYy8yoTA17U7GR3K0s534Nz/qmjXPa+RIksxPUJGGD3TsL7kTLqeGpaiqI0qbQgyJQV0A3Dn0ESAIlbwex3+vJygTrzVg== Received: from [98.139.214.32] by nm34.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2015 11:06:14 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.231] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2015 11:06:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1040.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2015 11:06:14 -0000 Vjd2srFqy9h_32f0Pkogsotq19V3.YYmiz_gzDxxY7dUcZTh70ZVvJlF4lWbKQzh9b37FesWY.cv evuicN9RPOTKsTDXZMfjGkSCOGbarhQXejNbE775ICNafnHosMX7BPsiXURCRZNlP9eSQv2mAVn9 cmWejxDdQsTwBBMcnCh9tfHZzV58SvTWY8.dUJrJKKecsvfZ.nEV9v925WV.66wQ9cssd6T3Fd3J 02OtAoyrCqtjA5aBb_zmaH5Wqnnc4S0qphxTG1rdyGpQBCVAZXMQUx6H4YmTrbbRq79JPsbyZdRE vJ9MiVlnfF7erblitFLEuu565h909pKT3a4vlfeaFymxoy3ZWUKASh_C8eTwCXcHwfx4A6m_V4Q7 N92MNFB12n9_dwxrQUT29GLcz.xHVkeRjanZ413vBfb.UZfsk9q4xjhbxGrhem0xrKDHXXqV0rkF yawY- Received: by 66.196.80.193; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 11:06:13 +0000 Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 11:06:13 +0000 (UTC) To: "ccrobins@ktc.com" , MG List References: <552F015A.2060404@ktc.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] First drive of the year From: Dan DiBiase via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4794602463326264394== boundary="----=_Part_5223534_458478877.1429182373578" ------=_Part_5223534_458478877.1429182373578 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I do, but it's a battery tender, not a real 'charger'..... But for some rea= son it did not work over the winter. But I have a feeling the battery is de= ad, as it didn'treally recharge, apparently, after my short ride last week.= ... Although it was almost 2 weeks ago now, so we'll see.... Dan D'76B, '65B Central NJ USA From: Charley & Peggy Robinson To: Dan DiBiase ; Mga List =20 Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [Mgs] First drive of the year =20 Get the battery to the shop?=C2=A0 Don't you have a battery charger? =20 CR =20 =20 On 4/15/2015 9:02 AM, Dan DiBiase via Mgs wrote: =20 I went to do the 'second' drive of the year for the '76 on Sunday (the fi= rst was only 5 miles to get the dust off) - dead battery, totally flat.... = Didn't have time to mess around jumping it, and I think it needs to sit on = a charger anyway. Hopefully can get the battery to the local shop on Friday= .=20 Dan D '76B, '65B Central NJ USA =20 =20 =20 ------=_Part_5223534_458478877.1429182373578 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I do, but it's a battery tender, no= t a real 'charger'..... But for some reason it did not work over the winter= . But I have a feeling the battery is dead, as it didn't
really recharge, apparently, after my short ride last w= eek.... Although it was almost 2 weeks ago now, so we'll see....

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA
From: Charley & Peggy Robinson <ccrobins@ktc.com>
To: Dan DiBiase <d_dibiase@yahoo.c= om>; Mga List <Mgs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Mgs] First drive of = the year

Get the battery to the shop?  Don't you have a battery charger?
CR



On 4/15/2015 9:02 AM, = Dan DiBiase via Mgs wrote:
I went to = do the 'second' drive of the year for the '76 on Sunday (the first was only 5 miles to get the dust off) - dead battery, totally flat.... Didn't have time to
mess around jumping it, and I think it needs to sit on a charger anyway. Hopefully can get the battery to the local shop on Friday.

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA



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Y2hhcnNldD1VVEYtOCI+PC9kaXY+PC9ib2R5PjwvaHRtbD4= ----_com.android.email_882691776815690-- --===============7754426440977365145== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============7754426440977365145==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 08:20:32 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856C12584D78 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 08:20:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED9C025805FE for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 08:04:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-10-imp with bizsmtp id GeAf1q01y4LtS4201eAgNZ; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:10:40 +0100 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=8HyEtkzoGxeV7s_jM2gA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=4_ILRdqjMXds1rvIvFoA:9 a=kUAV6C2RkO8tg58W:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 To: "Dan DiBiase" , "MG List" References: <552F015A.2060404@ktc.com> <133751505.5223535.1429182373583.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:52:10 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] First drive of the year From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============5394120753186222025== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CF_01D07854.EB039190" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CF_01D07854.EB039190 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Conditioning chargers i.e. the ones designed to be connected long-term = (not the old-fashioned trickle chargers) are usually intelligent and = apply a charge that is relevant to the batteries needs. If this is what = you have then the battery probably is dead. Some leave them on winter = and summer, but they can get 'addicted' and the first night away from = home and the charger could fail the next morning. Unless you have a = drain, and that includes sophisticated alarm systems, an MGB battery = should be fine for a couple of months or more without being used or = charged. PaulH. ----- Original Message -----=20 I do, but it's a battery tender, not a real 'charger'..... But for = some reason it did not work over the winter. But I have a feeling the = battery is dead, as it didn't really recharge, apparently, after my short ride last week.... = Although it was almost 2 weeks ago now, so we'll see.... ------=_NextPart_000_00CF_01D07854.EB039190 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Conditioning chargers i.e. the ones designed to be = connected=20 long-term (not the old-fashioned trickle chargers) are usually = intelligent and=20 apply a charge that is relevant to the batteries needs.  If this is = what=20 you have then the battery probably is dead.  Some leave them on = winter and=20 summer, but they can get 'addicted' and the first night away from home = and the=20 charger could fail the next morning.  Unless you have a drain, and = that=20 includes sophisticated alarm systems, an MGB battery should be fine for = a couple=20 of months or more without being used or charged.
 
PaulH.
----- Original Message -----

I do, but it's a battery tender, = not a real=20 'charger'..... But for some reason it did not work over the winter. = But I have=20 a feeling the battery is dead, as it didn't
really recharge, apparently, = after my short=20 ride last week.... Although it was almost 2 weeks ago now, so we'll=20 see....
------=_NextPart_000_00CF_01D07854.EB039190-- --===============5394120753186222025== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============5394120753186222025==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 09:20:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153DC2584649 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 09:20:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3443B25809D8 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 08:53:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.19.25.248] (wl-nat100.it.wsu.edu [69.166.47.100]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8A8B012736 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 10:59:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 07:59:24 -0700 References: To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" Subject: Re: [Mgs] First drive of the year/Fuel smells From: Aaron Whiteman via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6191064115246343887== --Apple-Mail=_A19FECFD-5E1F-4F4D-BDC7-1F652315FD37 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 > On Apr 15, 2015, at 6:31 AM, Paul Root via Mgs = wrote: >=20 > I got my MG out a couple weeks ago, then it turned cold again, so it = sat in the garage. Yesterday I thought about driving it to work, but the = rear right tire was a little flat, it has a nail or something. And other = excuses made me go to the daily driver. With the early spring and lack of winter in the Northwest this year, = I=E2=80=99m now on the second tank of the year. I still haven=E2=80=99t = made any longer trips, so I haven=E2=80=99t yet gotten the chance to = really find out what new quirks I have to fix appeared as she slumbered = between October and February. The only thing really wrong right now is that my trunk smells of = gasoline. Not a lot, but it=E2=80=99s there. The tank is new (one of = those Canadian made nickel-plated tanks), but the plumbing isn=E2=80=99t. = I suspect the filler neck is cracked. Any other likely candidates? = It=E2=80=99s not overwhelming, but it=E2=80=99s enough that if I leave a = shirt in the boot overnight, it has to be aired out for a while before I = can stand to wear it.= --Apple-Mail=_A19FECFD-5E1F-4F4D-BDC7-1F652315FD37 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8
On Apr 15, 2015, at 6:31 AM, Paul Root via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> = wrote:

I got my MG out a couple weeks ago, then it = turned cold again, so it sat in the garage. Yesterday I thought about = driving it to work, but the rear right tire was a little flat, it has a = nail or something. And other excuses made me go to the daily = driver.

With = the early spring and lack of winter in the Northwest this year, I=E2=80=99= m now on the second tank of the year. I still haven=E2=80=99t made any = longer trips, so I haven=E2=80=99t yet gotten the chance to really find = out what new quirks I have to fix appeared as she slumbered between = October and February.

The only thing really wrong right now is that my trunk smells = of gasoline. Not a lot, but it=E2=80=99s there. The tank is new (one of = those Canadian made nickel-plated tanks), but the plumbing isn=E2=80=99t. = I suspect the filler neck is cracked. Any other likely candidates? = It=E2=80=99s not overwhelming, but it=E2=80=99s enough that if I leave a = shirt in the boot overnight, it has to be aired out for a while before I = can stand to wear it.
= --Apple-Mail=_A19FECFD-5E1F-4F4D-BDC7-1F652315FD37-- --===============6191064115246343887== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============6191064115246343887==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 10:04:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24832258453D for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 10:04:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm29-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm29-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80ABB2580B26 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 09:48:01 -0600 (MDT) t=1429199647; bh=05/ySlDBrw178E1bFa5tnf4H3o9lYV89IQw69iXVwxk=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=J/kDBV+qB+oWKB0VvsrtdbTr+NWUrimDXh5K6gDyZJPnw2xPYpQuJt01B6Mzo8pnlyAAzaT3r0iOaVqZkGChNFRIb2SipUdWwzR6U5LmePUaLokiqaIYZGjvxENjPxPwqhSzl20fxeBNJZvj0qB2X4J/i6Eqj5S9p9lEo8gnBIqfOjzJNtVzpwRm3CYqLQRczX4v/BJ0O5qrcKtuPzx/K4RF4UD1tuoPJBMFGlMl7jzt3tdgZf2xftiVXx4Ilzr85CLiC92LL1zpHpJNmUHT4acyJtaNxxeJZPMDUvX0P1nnor+R1yaO5WSbup8uOr3SIu3Atrvf8Qt45C6H3HHyqg== Received: from [98.139.214.32] by nm29.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2015 15:54:07 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.236] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2015 15:54:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1045.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Apr 2015 15:54:07 -0000 LbkzVbDzwbROYslJ7XuXinTBdlO6XsjSL6.6hUuFiXqAmMbM2NhoIBeErSTXa5fK7S7C.GqaNJV2 9i3N1FFYzAYIpoytGJoLTFnTbCDfLfc5AwOX32NUrZ6wQKn6rCe4oEGGXUIDRgG5FeyEGLlc3gb4 pWJ4POsEgphEm8kl3PAo8ihx4EfdPmht8zIvy.nhThSVWHC54kjIT0ShqnDpV0KpS7VJz.eMZuxL 9b9C9fzvVwrCgvVeE2sTjuYbY9FhY2QOGTq1waSNftrUVLac385XUZCY2thkha0r7hXWJSruPKvk HJMsbQfQcMPMCAh_78kYeHjbVKwO5_VP15O_PXoDRWJwBP.M_yOTKxmrQGOWqWbclpqaD34lQ1ST zeA56hZLsBkSQaGK_NpxUDbqDhlBZmnRZxUKZzhMNpgpcQ0f7BlmdQBSr.2htngAZKUKTxbk3DNx lv7BXDCo- Received: by 66.196.81.108; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:54:06 +0000 Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:54:06 +0000 (UTC) To: PaulHunt73 , MG List References: <552F015A.2060404@ktc.com> <133751505.5223535.1429182373583.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] First drive of the year From: Dan DiBiase via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4602774571170282033== boundary="----=_Part_5384169_452934874.1429199646473" ------=_Part_5384169_452934874.1429199646473 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm pretty sure there is no drain, I think it's just that my trickle charge= r didn't work and allowed the battery to get totally flat. My 5-mile ride 1= 0 days ago wasn't enoughto get it back in shape, I guess. Will mess around = with it this weekend. Dan D'76B, '65BCentral NJ USA From: PaulHunt73 To: Dan DiBiase ; MG List =20 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [Mgs] First drive of the year =20 Conditioning chargers i.e. the ones designed to be connected long-term (no= t the old-fashioned trickle chargers) are usually intelligent and apply a c= harge that is relevant to the batteries needs.=C2=A0 If this is what you ha= ve then the battery probably is dead.=C2=A0 Some leave them on winter and s= ummer, but they can get 'addicted' and the first night away from home and t= he charger could fail the next morning.=C2=A0 Unless you have a drain, and = that includes sophisticated alarm systems, an MGB battery should be fine fo= r a couple of months or more without being used or charged.=C2=A0PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- =20 I do, but it's a battery tender, not a real 'charger'..... But for some r= eason it did not work over the winter. But I have a feeling the battery is = dead, as it didn't really recharge, apparently, after my short ride last we= ek.... Although it was almost 2 weeks ago now, so we'll see.... ------=_Part_5384169_452934874.1429199646473 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I'm p= retty sure there is no drain, I think it's just that my trickle charger did= n't work and allowed the battery to get totally flat. My 5-mile ride 10 day= s ago wasn't enough
to get it back in shape, I guess. Will mess around with it this weeke= nd.

=
Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA

=
From: PaulHunt73 &l= t;paulhunt73@virginmedia.com>
= To: Dan DiBiase <d_dibiase@yahoo.com>; MG List <mgs@aut= ox.team.net>
Sent:= Thursday, April 16, 2015 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Mgs] First drive of the year
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Conditioning chargers i.e. the ones designed to be= connected=20 long-term (not the old-fashioned trickle chargers) are usually intelligent = and=20 apply a charge that is relevant to the batteries needs.  If this is wh= at=20 you have then the battery probably is dead.  Some leave them on winter= and=20 summer, but they can get 'addicted' and the first night away from home and = the=20 charger could fail the next morning.  Unless you have a drain, and tha= t=20 includes sophisticated alarm systems, an MGB battery should be fine for a c= ouple=20 of months or more without being used or charged.
 <= /div>
PaulH.<= /div>
--= --- Original Message -----

I do, but it's a batt= ery tender, not a real=20 'charger'..... But for some reason it did not work over the winter. But I= have=20 a feeling the battery is dead, as it didn't
really recharge, appa= rently, after my short=20 ride last week.... Although it was almost 2 weeks ago now, so we'll=20 see....


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From: Dan DiBiase via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8592747842314060484== boundary="----=_Part_5432504_1927879073.1429199677897" ------=_Part_5432504_1927879073.1429199677897 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sounds like the Jag V-12 is the anti-MGB in terms of simplicity! Dan D'76B, '65BCentral NJ USA From: Rick Lindsay To: Dan DiBiase ; "ccrobins@ktc.com" ; MG List =20 Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 8:09 AM Subject: Batteries, was:First drive... =20 Morning Guys, Similar story here. Turned the key in my E-Type a few days ago and 'click'.= Not enough juice to even roll that big V12 over. I pulled the battery out = and with it on the bench at home, I connected the charger. The current draw= swept up to 6 amps so I left it that way over night. 12 hours later the me= ter read 3 amps charge, and that's typically where it indicates after a ful= l charge. I put the battery back in the car and still needed the 'jump box' to start = the car. First clue discovered. I then drove the car 2 miles, from my old s= torage facility to my new workshop. Along the way the onboard voltmeter dro= pped until by the time I coasted in, the gauge read 9 volts, WITH the engin= e (kinda) running. So clues number 2 and 3. The 3-year-old battery is dead = meat, and the car's charging system is all-but-dead meat. I removed the battery and took it to my local indy shop. Thomas reported th= at he had since dropped the Interstate brand line because of multiple retur= ns, just like mine. He offered me a replacement AC Delco battery for $50 an= d I jumped on the deal. First problem solved. This morning I am going to remove, clean and rebuild the alternator control= ler. Its a B.U.T.E.C. R2 Regulator. For anyone with electronics skills, its= an easy job to rebuild. Two generic NPN transistors and a half dozen resis= tors and its 'new'. Total cost for parts, maybe $5. Rebuilt units sell for = $130. So my quest is to make sure the regulator is working correctly before= assuming the alternator is worn out. Removing the alternator requires removing the E-Type's bonnet! With that ho= nkin' big V12 under there, the alternator is installed backwards. That is, = =C2=A0the pully faces the engine rather than away from it! That puts it sti= cking forward AND turning the opposite direction. That means the fan blade = pitch is reversed. The result is a unique beast that sells for about $1000,= rebuilt! Or I can take it to a local shop and have it rebuilt for $40. Giv= en the results of the controller rebuild, that may be my course of action. Yes, way more than you wanted. I really just meant to say that my car's bat= tery also failed after sitting through the winter. Sorry for the long winde= d, mostly OT post. 10 points awarded to Gryffindor for reading this far. -rick ------=_Part_5432504_1927879073.1429199677897 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sounds like the J= ag V-12 is the anti-MGB in terms of simplicity!

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA

= From: Rick Lindsay <rich= ardolindsay@gmail.com>
To: Dan DiBiase <d_dibiase@yahoo.com>; "ccrobins@ktc.com" <ccr= obins@ktc.com>; MG List <mgs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2015 8:09 AM Subject: Batteries, was= :First drive...

=20
Morning Guys,

Similar story here. Turned the key in my E-Type a few days ago a= nd 'click'. Not enough juice to even roll that big V12 over. I pulled the b= attery out and with it on the bench at home, I connected the charger. The c= urrent draw swept up to 6 amps so I left it that way over night. 12 hours l= ater the meter read 3 amps charge, and that's typically where it indicates = after a full charge.

<= /div>
I put the battery back in = the car and still needed the 'jump box' to start the car. First clue discov= ered. I then drove the car 2 miles, from my old storage facility to my new = workshop. Along the way the onboard voltmeter dropped until by the time I c= oasted in, the gauge read 9 volts, WITH the engine (kinda) running. So clue= s number 2 and 3. The 3-year-old battery is dead meat, and the car's chargi= ng system is all-but-dead meat.

I removed the battery and took it to my local indy sho= p. Thomas reported that he had since dropped the Interstate brand line beca= use of multiple returns, just like mine. He offered me a replacement AC Del= co battery for $50 and I jumped on the deal. First problem solved.

This morning I am going to remove, clean and rebuild the a= lternator controller. Its a B.U.T.E.C. R2 Regulator. For anyone with electr= onics skills, its an easy job to rebuild. Two generic NPN transistors and a= half dozen resistors and its 'new'. Total cost for parts, maybe $5. Rebuil= t units sell for $130. So my quest is to make sure the regulator is working= correctly before assuming the alternator is worn out.

=
Removing the alternator requires removing the E-Type's bonnet! With th= at honkin' big V12 under there, the alternator is installed backwards. That= is,  the pully faces the engine rather than away from it! That puts i= t sticking forward AND turning the opposite direction. That means the fan b= lade pitch is reversed. The result is a unique beast that sells for about $= 1000, rebuilt! Or I can take it to a local shop and have it rebuilt for $40= . Given the results of the controller rebuild, that may be my course of act= ion.

Yes, way more than you wanted. I really just = meant to say that my car's battery also failed after sitting through the wi= nter. Sorry for the long winded, mostly OT post. 10 points awarded to Gryff= indor for reading this far.

-rick





------=_Part_5432504_1927879073.1429199677897-- --===============8592747842314060484== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============8592747842314060484==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 11:05:52 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94FF625844DA for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 11:05:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from pacmmta55.windstream.net (pacmmta55.windstream.net [162.39.147.221]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2E3258088B for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 10:37:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([72.172.28.225]) by pacmmta55.windstream.net with pacmmta55 id GgjK1q00c4rQxyY01gjK45; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 12:43:20 -0400 a=Fcrx4PSrRH1ZuqVmo8lkRw==:117 a=Fcrx4PSrRH1ZuqVmo8lkRw==:17 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=naziTCeN6agA:10 a=Ov22w-J6AAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=NQ79fbwCNW_wBSI-WFQA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=JqoMyt-J-EnrvWqM1QEA:9 a=xjfOK9Z0dt-zMpeC:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Authentication-Results: pacmmta55.windstream.net ; auth=pass smtp.auth=ccrobins@ktc.com Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 11:43:12 -0500 Organization: Computer Helpers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 To: PaulHunt73 , Dan DiBiase , MG List References: <552F015A.2060404@ktc.com> <133751505.5223535.1429182373583.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] First drive of the year From: Charley & Peggy Robinson via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============5621984093252505200== boundary="------------050201070500070908030100" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050201070500070908030100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We took our first drive on 2nd April. Drove N to the Willow City loop, a ranch road famed for it wildflowers (mainly Bluebonnets & Indian Paintbrush) in a good year. It was the only sunny day of the week. The next sunny day here in the TX hill country was yesterday; solid overcast again today. We've had lots of threatening fronts & cloud formation but not much net rain. I have a solid state battery tender that was a gift some years ago. It puts out a max of 5A. It has indicator leds that tell you what it's doing. I found out that I have to monitor it often. If something interrupts its cycle it quits charging and blinks a LED. That's happened now and then. Fortunately the B is kept in my attached garage/hobby shop so I'm in there almost daily. CR On 4/16/2015 8:52 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs wrote: > Conditioning chargers i.e. the ones designed to be connected long-term > (not the old-fashioned trickle chargers) are usually intelligent and > apply a charge that is relevant to the batteries needs. If this is > what you have then the battery probably is dead. Some leave them on > winter and summer, but they can get 'addicted' and the first night > away from home and the charger could fail the next morning. Unless you > have a drain, and that includes sophisticated alarm systems, an MGB > battery should be fine for a couple of months or more without being > used or charged. > PaulH. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > I do, but it's a battery tender, not a real 'charger'..... But for > some reason it did not work over the winter. But I have a feeling > the battery is dead, as it didn't > really recharge, apparently, after my short ride last week.... > Although it was almost 2 weeks ago now, so we'll see.... > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins@ktc.com --------------050201070500070908030100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit We took our first drive on 2nd April.  Drove N to the Willow City loop, a ranch road famed for it wildflowers (mainly Bluebonnets & Indian Paintbrush) in a good year.  It was the only sunny day of the week.  The next sunny day here in the TX hill country was yesterday; solid overcast again today.  We've had lots of threatening fronts & cloud formation but not much net rain.

I have a solid state battery tender that was a gift some years ago.  It puts out a max of 5A.  It has indicator leds that tell you what it's doing.  I found out that I have to monitor it often.  If something interrupts its cycle it quits charging and blinks a LED.  That's happened now and then.  Fortunately the B is kept in my attached garage/hobby shop so I'm in there almost daily. 

CR

On 4/16/2015 8:52 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs wrote:
Conditioning chargers i.e. the ones designed to be connected long-term (not the old-fashioned trickle chargers) are usually intelligent and apply a charge that is relevant to the batteries needs.  If this is what you have then the battery probably is dead.  Some leave them on winter and summer, but they can get 'addicted' and the first night away from home and the charger could fail the next morning.  Unless you have a drain, and that includes sophisticated alarm systems, an MGB battery should be fine for a couple of months or more without being used or charged.
 
PaulH.
----- Original Message -----

I do, but it's a battery tender, not a real 'charger'..... But for some reason it did not work over the winter. But I have a feeling the battery is dead, as it didn't
really recharge, apparently, after my short ride last week.... Although it was almost 2 weeks ago now, so we'll see....


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--------------050201070500070908030100-- --===============5621984093252505200== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============5621984093252505200==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 11:06:16 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DE8D2584A8F for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 11:06:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B33B5258088B for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 10:37:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 32434 invoked by uid 0); 16 Apr 2015 16:44:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy2.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 16 Apr 2015 16:44:02 -0000 Received: from box522.bluehost.com ([74.220.219.122]) by CMOut01 with id Ggjt1q01R2f2jeq01gjwNU; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 10:44:00 -0600 a=GsOEXm/OWkKvwdLVJsfwcA==:117 a=GsOEXm/OWkKvwdLVJsfwcA==:17 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=zo8hvysWAAAA:8 a=PH27ZC4J-VgA:10 a=IimGCXo7dwIA:10 a=e9J7MTPGsLIA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=1pk_w1jVZbKITE5uYlIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=aksl6mOMjTRPUKr26qkA:9 a=sDx9FKe83AUh8WUL:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 s=default; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:From:To:Date; bh=JNZ/QHOkSGhFg7lOD+MIuJ21+wY49wdxGZj6wIUJRIk=; b=g/U7nkutFCsT+q92CC0LmoyKV6tCpN1rO3iq9PzO9GkJe3YoROuZtmmIOWBR7F6342Yo/rngKRSroq61yEl80dtD/hfcRdiUzdLNDZaSsGzx5QK+mDWZmEg2IfuC4Y0E; Received: from [64.134.158.93] (port=49518 helo=BarneysPC.mgaguru.com) by box522.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1YimtP-0000Fd-7P; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 10:43:55 -0600 Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 10:43:25 -0600 To: Aaron Whiteman , "mgs@autox.team.net List" References: {sentby:smtp auth 64.134.158.93 authed with barneymg@mgaguru.com} Subject: Re: [Mgs] First drive of the year/Fuel smells From: Barney Gaylord via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5804739453270450906== boundary="=====================_1974906==.ALT" --=====================_1974906==.ALT Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Check the filler pipe rubber connector hose first. Late model MGBs have fuel vapor recovery=20 system. This includes an expansion tank high=20 inside the RR fender (in the boot) with a flex=20 hose between the expansion tank and the fuel=20 tank. This hose appeaars to connect to the boot=20 floor near the filler pipe. If this hose leak it=20 will spill a bit of fuel into the boot, especially just after filling the= tank. There is another connection to the expansion tank=20 going forward. If this one leaks it can=20 contribute fuel fumes into the boot space. The later model MGB also has flat top fuel=20 tank. These tend to rust out on top like Swiss=20 cheese, then will spill fuel from the top surface=20 with the tank is filled or near full. Barney Gaylord 1958 MGA with an attitude http://MGAguru.com At 07:59 AM 4/16/2015 -0700, Aaron Whiteman via Mgs wrote: >>On Apr 15, 2015, at 6:31 AM, Paul Root via Mgs=20 >> >>I got my MG out a couple weeks ago, then it=20 >>turned cold again, so it sat in the garage. .... > >.... >The only thing really wrong right now is that my=20 >trunk smells of gasoline. Not a lot, but it=E2=80=99s=20 >there. The tank is new (one of those Canadian=20 >made nickel-plated tanks), but the plumbing=20 >isn=E2=80=99t. I suspect the filler neck is cracked.=20 >Any other likely candidates? It=E2=80=99s not=20 >overwhelming, but it=E2=80=99s enough that if I leave=20 >a shirt in the boot overnight, it has to be=20 >aired out for a while before I can stand to wear it. --=====================_1974906==.ALT Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Check the filler pipe rubber connector hose first.

Late model MGBs have fuel vapor recovery system.  This includes an expansion tank high inside the RR fender (in the boot)  with a flex hose between the expansion tank and the fuel tank.  This hose appeaars to connect to the boot floor near the filler pipe.  If this hose leak it will spill a bit of fuel into the boot, especially just after filling the tank.

There is another connection to the expansion tank going forward.  If this one leaks it can contribute fuel fumes into the boot space.

The later model MGB also has flat top fuel tank.  These tend to rust out on top like Swiss cheese, then will spill fuel from the top surface with the tank is filled or near full.

Barney Gaylord
1958 MGA with an attitude
http://MGAguru.com


At 07:59 AM 4/16/2015 -0700, Aaron Whiteman via Mgs wrote:

On Apr 15, 2015, at 6:31 AM, Paul Root via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:

I got my MG out a couple weeks ago, then it turned cold again, so it sat in the garage. ....

....
The only thing really wrong right now is that my trunk smells of gasoline. Not a lot, but it=E2=80=99s there. The tank is new (one of those Canadian made nickel-plated tanks), but the plumbing isn=E2=80=99t. I suspec= t the filler neck is cracked. Any other likely candidates? It=E2=80=99s not overwhelming, but it=E2=80=99s enough that if I leave a shirt in the boot overnight, it has to be aired out for a while before I can stand to wear it.
--=====================_1974906==.ALT-- --===============5804739453270450906== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============5804739453270450906==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 16 15:38:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5250F2584C0B for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:38:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 025612580B32 for ; Thu, 16 Apr 2015 15:18:28 -0600 (MDT) t=1429219474; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=I5P4bUBuI+VFQsznt1V2dIa4TWtlPJBETztaD5dhSpWeVVb5OunacdE/DZwjJGyE8 G6RBoYq2Mp8/2jiaD78gOs5sliGmCdXFuZ729SBTtHyqgaEKMUjm2rwCSAQ/Tg5SoB i5zKYLL7RTivT+TtXEKsKsXPd3aIQzUPz/8AjMBg= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail-beta03.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.103]) by smtpout02.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABLVALD5AA66GHA for (sender ); Thu, 16 Apr 2015 14:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [32.210.19.232] by webmail-beta03.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 21:23:37 GMT Full-Name: "mgbob@juno.com" Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 21:23:37 GMT To: barneymg@mgaguru.com Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] First drive of the year/Fuel smells From: mgbob--- via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4013229516009498935== ----__JWM__J246cefd4.5721ff7dS.49c5b50bM Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Further to Barney's notes: if the metal line going forward to the adso= rbtion cannister is clogged, pressure can build in the un-vented tank an= d push vapors through any of the hose connections. Bob ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Barney Gaylord via Mgs To: Aaron Whiteman , "mgs@autox.team.net List" Subject: Re: [Mgs] First drive of the year/Fuel smells Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 10:43:25 -0600 Check the filler pipe rubber connector hose first. Late model MGBs have fuel vapor recovery system. This includes an expa= nsion tank high inside the RR fender (in the boot) with a flex hose bet= ween the expansion tank and the fuel tank. This hose appeaars to connec= t to the boot floor near the filler pipe. If this hose leak it will spi= ll a bit of fuel into the boot, especially just after filling the tank. There is another connection to the expansion tank going forward. If th= is one leaks it can contribute fuel fumes into the boot space. The later model MGB also has flat top fuel tank. These tend to rust ou= t on top like Swiss cheese, then will spill fuel from the top surface wi= th the tank is filled or near full. Barney Gaylord 1958 MGA with an attitude http://MGAguru.com = At 07:59 AM 4/16/2015 -0700, Aaron Whiteman via Mgs wrote: On Apr 15, 2015, at 6:31 AM, Paul Root via Mgs wrot= e: I got my MG out a couple weeks ago, then it turned cold again, so it sa= t in the garage. .... .... The only thing really wrong right now is that my trunk smells of gasoli= ne. Not a lot, but it=E2€™s there. The tank is new (one of th= ose Canadian made nickel-plated tanks), but the plumbing isn=E2€&tr= ade;t. I suspect the filler neck is cracked. Any other likely candidates= ? It=E2€™s not overwhelming, but it=E2€™s enough t= hat if I leave a shirt in the boot overnight, it has to be aired out for= a while before I can stand to wear it. ----__JWM__J246cefd4.5721ff7dS.49c5b50bM Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline
Further to Barney's notes:   if the metal line going for= ward to the adsorbtion cannister is clogged, pressure can build in the u= n-vented tank and push vapors through any of the hose connections. =
Bob


---------- Original Message ----------<= br>From: Barney Gaylord via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
To: Aaron = Whiteman <awhitema@panix.com>, "mgs@autox.team.net List" <mgs@a= utox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] First drive of the year/Fuel sme= lls
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 10:43:25 -0600


Check the fille= r pipe rubber connector hose first.

Late model MGBs have fuel va= por recovery system.  This includes an expansion tank high inside t= he RR fender (in the boot)  with a flex hose between the expansion = tank and the fuel tank.  This hose appeaars to connect to the boot = floor near the filler pipe.  If this hose leak it will spill a bit = of fuel into the boot, especially just after filling the tank.

T= here is another connection to the expansion tank going forward.  If= this one leaks it can contribute fuel fumes into the boot space.
The later model MGB also has flat top fuel tank.  These tend to r= ust out on top like Swiss cheese, then will spill fuel from the top surf= ace with the tank is filled or near full.

Barney Gaylord
195= 8 MGA with an attitude
http://MGAgur= u.com



At 07:59 AM 4/16/2015 -0700, Aaron Whiteman v= ia Mgs wrote:

On Apr 15, 2015, at 6:31 AM, Paul Root via Mg= s <mgs@autox.team.net> w= rote:

I got my MG out a couple weeks ago, then it turned cold ag= ain, so it sat in the garage. ....

....
The only th= ing really wrong right now is that my trunk smells of gasoline. Not a lo= t, but it’s there. The tank is new (one of those Cana= dian made nickel-plated tanks), but the plumbing isn’= t. I suspect the filler neck is cracked. Any other likely candidates? It= ’s not overwhelming, but it’s enou= gh that if I leave a shirt in the boot overnight, it has to be aired out= for a while before I can stand to wear it. ----__JWM__J246cefd4.5721ff7dS.49c5b50bM-- --===============4013229516009498935== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============4013229516009498935==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 01:54:20 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16FFD2584E45 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 01:54:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D47E325846AB for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 01:31:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-10-imp with bizsmtp id Gvd51q0104LtS4201vd5Ka; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 08:37:05 +0100 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=qEqTV3WnyvIRux6xU7MA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=tA4v7KjIDz8A:10 a=BpqyIpP2ciAA:10 a=ou2mnevZW0dGEPVnlgkA:9 a=ex9nv5RNQtLYCnN2:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Cc: References: <20150416.172337.11487.4@webmail-beta03.vgs.untd.com> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 08:15:22 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] First drive of the year/Fuel smells From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0556860587744930615== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004E_01D078E6.A6809440" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01D078E6.A6809440 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's usually noticed first as fuel starvation as air can't get back = from the canister to replace the fuel as it is used. Of course it could = have both issues ... The vapour recovery system was used from 1970 and 71, not particularly = late. ----- Original Message -----=20 Further to Barney's notes: if the metal line going forward to the = adsorbtion cannister is clogged, pressure can build in the un-vented = tank and push vapors through any of the hose connections.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_004E_01D078E6.A6809440 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That's usually noticed first as fuel starvation as = air can't=20 get back from the canister to replace the fuel as it is used.  Of = course it=20 could have both issues ...
 
The vapour recovery system was used from 1970 and = 71, not=20 particularly late.
----- Original Message -----
Further to Barney's notes:   if the metal line going forward = to the=20 adsorbtion cannister is clogged, pressure can build in the un-vented = tank and=20 push vapors through any of the hose connections. 
 
------=_NextPart_000_004E_01D078E6.A6809440-- --===============0556860587744930615== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============0556860587744930615==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 17 17:44:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39E4E258765A for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 17:44:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D25725806EE for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 17:26:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbbzk7 with SMTP id zk7so94228767lbb.0 for ; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 16:32:39 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=f7JpNqX4NAhPsMkKm+mU4ahHr8WVnC3BXHf74YeVsbU=; b=CrqjGXfyxhQIxm7NJTpnZ7bg3pvrp0iGgiYCAQwEcZ1b5bm+EksXFIm9mr75CIT/S1 eS9G+/GFP/kVoSP8siWno2hsvX2eRQvdBexPmZpKYt1a5knQpKqu1M/+0lcTOhJJ+UCn mQS2M4Yq8qu1/eJTHG4sK+U1Lnyc4XdsQtzEK0Jo4CEtdEJF+yZYFf634ZvfA+7PsBrn n0qH+dYSYHo0wHJUpi1cXc6CDBU+ACnu+gh3zQnEfQL5wXT+zclpuJQrnEKF8GDa8UGD wFAO2qkvHvuLDfV0QiINRkoqYMBHejKLNAuTITbgUW0OCNoiZRoIvVKQ3GwUN+eT75t2 bKLQ== Fri, 17 Apr 2015 16:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.139.213 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Apr 2015 16:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2015 19:32:39 -0400 To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] Fuel smell in boot/trunk From: Mogrits via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7493347904135959542== --001a11349908ff4e690513f3fe3f Until you get that fuel smell sorted out, I would consider removing or disabling the boot light switch. Mine, in my '72, throws sparks when it makes and breaks connection. If you park the car indoors or undercover, leaving the boot lid up is a good idea, too. I have not had this problem with my B yet, but I had it in my '88 Jaguar XJ6. Turned out the tank was rusted out. They are totally different cars though, so no connection. Warren (making my first post here in years and years) --001a11349908ff4e690513f3fe3f Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Until you get that fuel smell s= orted out, I would consider removing or disabling the boot light switch. Mi= ne, in my '72, throws sparks when it makes and breaks connection. If yo= u park the car indoors or undercover, leaving the boot lid up is a good ide= a, too. I have not had this problem with my B yet, but I had it in my '= 88 Jaguar XJ6. Turned out the tank was rusted out. They are totally differe= nt cars though, so no connection.

Warren (making my first post here in years and = years)
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Sat, 18 Apr 2015 08:44:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from pacmmta55.windstream.net (pacmmta55.windstream.net [162.39.147.221]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FFBD25807A2 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 08:15:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([75.91.227.109]) by pacmmta55.windstream.net with pacmmta55 id HSMR1q00y2NFFj701SMSE3; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 10:21:26 -0400 a=BobQi08kUHh5or66QeJZDA==:117 a=BobQi08kUHh5or66QeJZDA==:17 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=naziTCeN6agA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=Ov22w-J6AAAA:8 a=Exi4KC0wWw51jnfp6wQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Authentication-Results: pacmmta55.windstream.net ; auth=pass smtp.auth=ccrobins@ktc.com Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 09:21:16 -0500 Organization: Computer Helpers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 To: mgs@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Mgs] Fuel smell in boot/trunk From: Charley & Peggy Robinson via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net From looking at the wiring diagram of the MGA I see that it doesn't have a voltage stabilizer to feed the gas gauge & sender; it depends on the output voltage (V) of a terminal on the control box. I suppose that's a nominal 12V but I don't know the delta V. Either MG A or B that supply V is going to vary a bit from car to car with the B being better regulated and you have to take into consideration the condition of the wiring harness, so I agree that each gauge should be calibrated on the car. Also, I've never seen a gas gauge whose readings I have ever considered to be exact. I see it more like a guide. CR On 4/18/2015 3:17 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs wrote: > Don't expect the gauge to be linear even when recalibrated. I > > Incidentally replacement senders vary wildly from the originals and > even each other. because of that you can't reliably recalibrate the > gauge using the resistance values given on Barney's site, you can only > do it in the car with the appropriate tank and sender. > > PaulH. > _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 18 09:45:13 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BAD2584DB2 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 09:45:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546B925844C3 for ; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 09:28:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-10-imp with bizsmtp id HTaT1q00V4LtS4201TaTMG; Sat, 18 Apr 2015 16:34:27 +0100 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=FI7vPrmvmH4nG3BjlWYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 To: References: <5532685C.1070202@ktc.com> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2015 16:30:23 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Fuel smell in boot/trunk From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net The MGA and MGB Jaeger gauges use a completely different method of voltage regulation to the MGB Smiths gauges, and the system voltage can vary significantly on both types - albeit a little less with alternators. Effectively the earlier system uses a Wheatstone Bridge, which is where with three known resistances you can arrange for a voltmeter to display the resistance of a fourth unknown resistance, and this is independent of supply voltage. The three known resistances are in the fuel gauge (two being magnetic coils), and the unknown is the tank sender of course. MGB Smiths gauges use a thermal voltage stabiliser which outputs an average of 10v over time regardless of system voltage, and thermal gauges, both using heating coils wrapped round bi-metal strips. Despite being called a 'stabiliser' the factory stabiliser is actually switching system voltage on and off about once per second, once the ignition has been on for a few seconds. At high system voltages you get a relatively short 'on' time compared to the 'off' time, and at low system voltage you get a longer 'on' time, always averaging about 10v. The tank sender simply varies the current through the gauge heating coils. Because the gauges are thermal they are very slow acting which means unless you look very carefully you can't see the pointer moving as the voltage goes on and off. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > From looking at the wiring diagram of the MGA I see that it doesn't have a > voltage stabilizer to feed the gas gauge & sender; it depends on the > output voltage (V) of a terminal on the control box. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 19 15:41:26 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3746A25848D5 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:41:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587132584891 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 15:14:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [173.170.144.91] ([173.170.144.91:50332] helo=[192.168.0.6]) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id A4/72-29784-91C14355; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 21:20:25 +0000 Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 17:20:25 -0400 To: MGList List Subject: [Mgs] MOWOG parts list From: "W. David Houser via Mgs" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net TGlzdGVycywKUGlja2VkIHVwIHdoYXQgSSB0aG91Z2h0IHdhcyBhIGZyb250IGJyYWtlIGRydW0g Zm9yIGEgVEQgYnV0IHRoZSBNT1dPRyBudW1iZXIgZG9lc27igJl0IGNvbWUgdXDigKZNT1dPRyBT SzUwNig4PykyUy4gQWxzbyBoYXMgSEFMRSAxIG9uIHRoZSBpbnNpZGUuIEVtYWlsIGZvciBhIHBo b3RvIG9mIHRoaXMgZHJ1bS4KQW55Ym9keSBoYXZlIHRoZSBNT1dPRyBzaXRlIG9yIGxpc3QgZm9y IDUzIE1HVEQgYnJha2UgZHJ1bXM/CkNoZWVycywKRGF2ZSBIb3VzZXIKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCgpNZ3NAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQKRG9u YXRlOiBodHRwOi8vd3d3LnRlYW0ubmV0L2RvbmF0ZS5odG1sClN1Z2dlc3RlZCBhbm51YWwgZG9u YXRpb24gICQxMi43NQpBcmNoaXZlOiBodHRwOi8vd3d3LnRlYW0ubmV0L2FyY2hpdmUKRm9ydW1z OiBodHRwOi8vd3d3LnRlYW0ubmV0L2ZvcnVtcwpVbnN1YnNjcmliZTogaHR0cDovL2F1dG94LnRl YW0ubmV0L21haWxtYW4vb3B0aW9ucy9tZ3MvbWhhcmNAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQK From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 19 17:42:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A5325852D4 for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 17:42:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from pacmmta56.windstream.net (pacmmta56.windstream.net [162.39.147.222]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41C42258052E for ; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 17:23:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([75.91.226.185]) by pacmmta56.windstream.net with pacmmta56 id HzVp1q00R40e3B701zVqDR; Sun, 19 Apr 2015 19:29:50 -0400 a=BsZ/MQslLLvrf+Oovw3kBA==:117 a=BsZ/MQslLLvrf+Oovw3kBA==:17 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=naziTCeN6agA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=Ov22w-J6AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=4adTmIKn3Nsyfqu7jMoA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 Authentication-Results: pacmmta56.windstream.net ; auth=pass smtp.auth=ccrobins@ktc.com Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2015 18:29:38 -0500 Organization: Computer Helpers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 To: PaulHunt73 , mgs@autox.team.net References: <5532685C.1070202@ktc.com> <7F7F62A81B674E93B8D4EFB494B0AA3E@paul> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Fuel smell in boot/trunk From: Charley & Peggy Robinson via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Paul, Thanks for this info; you make it clear. We kneed to archive this. CR On 4/18/2015 10:30 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs wrote: > The MGA and MGB Jaeger gauges use a completely different method of > voltage regulation to the MGB Smiths gauges, and the system voltage > can vary significantly on both types - albeit a little less with > alternators. Effectively the earlier system uses a Wheatstone Bridge, > which is where with three known resistances you can arrange for a > voltmeter to display the resistance of a fourth unknown resistance, > and this is independent of supply voltage. The three known > resistances are in the fuel gauge (two being magnetic coils), and the > unknown is the tank sender of course. > > MGB Smiths gauges use a thermal voltage stabiliser which outputs an > average of 10v over time regardless of system voltage, and thermal > gauges, both using heating coils wrapped round bi-metal strips. > Despite being called a 'stabiliser' the factory stabiliser is actually > switching system voltage on and off about once per second, once the > ignition has been on for a few seconds. At high system voltages you > get a relatively short 'on' time compared to the 'off' time, and at > low system voltage you get a longer 'on' time, always averaging about > 10v. The tank sender simply varies the current through the gauge > heating coils. Because the gauges are thermal they are very slow > acting which means unless you look very carefully you can't see the > pointer moving as the voltage goes on and off. > > PaulH. > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> From looking at the wiring diagram of the MGA I see that it doesn't >> have a voltage stabilizer to feed the gas gauge & sender; it depends >> on the output voltage (V) of a terminal on the control box. > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins@ktc.com > _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 20 12:46:37 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB4872585B54 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 12:46:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from cpsmtpb-ews09.kpnxchange.com (cpsmtpb-ews09.kpnxchange.com [213.75.39.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B1A2585915 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 12:29:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cpsps-ews19.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.185]) by cpsmtpb-ews09.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Mon, 20 Apr 2015 20:35:26 +0200 Received: from cpsmtpm-cmt101.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.17]) by cpsps-ews19.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.17514); Mon, 20 Apr 2015 20:35:25 +0200 Received: from HLaptopPC ([77.171.11.159]) by cpsmtpm-cmt101.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6002.18264); Mon, 20 Apr 2015 20:35:25 +0200 To: Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 20:35:27 +0200 Thread-Index: AdB7mHfUgnQGqRYJSQ6uaDeksrIm+g== Content-Language: nl FILETIME=[C4957900:01D07B98] Subject: [Mgs] Value of MG TC From: Hans Duinhoven via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============5687352131219685593== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01D07BA9.897881D0" Content-Language: nl This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01D07BA9.897881D0 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear listers, In the weekend I heard someone nearby is considering to sell his MG TC. I have not seen the car, but I believe it is in good order. So at what value is a MG TC rated nowadays? Cheers, Hans For over 25 years 71 BGT --- Dit e-mailbericht is gecontroleerd op virussen met Avast antivirussoftware. http://www.avast.com ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01D07BA9.897881D0 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear listers,=

 

In the weekend I heard someone nearby is considering to se= ll his MG TC.

= I have not seen the car, but I believe it is in good order.

So at what value is a MG TC r= ated nowadays?

 

Cheers= ,

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Hans

For over 25 years 71 BGT

 



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------=_NextPart_000_0048_01D07BA9.897881D0-- --===============5687352131219685593== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============5687352131219685593==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 20 13:28:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59BD72585B81 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 13:28:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0BC258509C for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 13:02:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.234]) by resqmta-po-01v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id JK4f1q00353iAfU01K8Ztk; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 19:08:33 +0000 Received: from sgorrAcer7 ([50.172.244.158]) by resomta-po-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id JK8Y1q0043RmTVu01K8Yki; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 19:08:33 +0000 To: "Hans Duinhoven" , "MG List" References: <004701d07b98$c5ef3ca0$51cdb5e0$@planet.nl> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 14:08:29 -0500 Importance: Normal s=q20140121; t=1429556913; bh=tsvAijUltPOrrn5E0boG6iIvXKELg5FTr3cHnzb7UHc=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=M2RnHBcI9yxlHDAdVt4NIC/1MkG0/+9zZ+Qdt5KBspyqJrs5spQsAq8WZdoPi6n6s +4Sw01sQno3GOlkGkxGQe+GQVWAMQM8FJw1cW0IANRKWgGKhazB5dt1U1kFPNrraoO TEmALtAfUveSvhVvZeDIH0ZWSeuQefMQ3kOYRVKh9rXFcyWuPMCAVLjh3goPhCwDWN 6a2lmNQXeXFzV+c3iLXJy7LRYWfEhXi+ckT5EGLQb8aKlZJrgqBp96uNvLaZRTMHqK 9QfY5l3aZ4PvB9JDxzrnOG0ztKmrweIEyzgedrnWqcfJk89p5mcMPYntjVFP0vvlVp u/WT0BfpV8PpA== Subject: Re: [Mgs] Value of MG TC From: Steven Gorr via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============9030259258665425256== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01D07B73.7A7E08C0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01D07B73.7A7E08C0 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable US values for say a 49 TC range from $17,900 for condition 4 daily = driver to $62,900 for concours #1. This is from the Hagerty valuation = guide. From: Hans Duinhoven via Mgs=20 Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 1:35 PM To: mgs@autox.team.net=20 Subject: [Mgs] Value of MG TC Dear listers, =20 In the weekend I heard someone nearby is considering to sell his MG TC. I have not seen the car, but I believe it is in good order. So at what value is a MG TC rated nowadays? =20 Cheers, =20 Hans For over 25 years 71 BGT =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- _______________________________________________ ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01D07B73.7A7E08C0 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
US values for say a 49 TC range from $17,900 for condition 4 daily = driver=20 to $62,900 for concours #1. This is from the Hagerty valuation = guide.
 
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 1:35 PM
Subject: [Mgs] Value of MG TC
 

Dear listers,

 

In the weekend I heard someone = nearby is=20 considering to sell his MG TC.

I have not seen the car, but I = believe it is=20 in good order.

So at what value is a MG TC = rated=20 nowadays?

 

Cheers,

 

Hans

For over 25 years 71 = BGT

 



 


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------=_NextPart_000_0024_01D07B73.7A7E08C0-- --===============9030259258665425256== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============9030259258665425256==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 20 13:42:25 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 268942585BBD for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 13:42:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp146.ord.emailsrvr.com (smtp146.ord.emailsrvr.com [173.203.6.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697D625846F6 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 13:20:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from smtp27.relay.ord1a.emailsrvr.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp27.relay.ord1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9C916180161 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:26:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: by smtp27.relay.ord1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: don-AT-napanet.net) with ESMTPA id C47E6180109 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 15:26:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from irving.napanet.net (173-228-76-171.dsl.dynamics.napanet.net [173.228.76.171]) by 0.0.0.0:587 (trex/5.4.2); Mon, 20 Apr 2015 19:26:52 GMT Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 12:26:45 -0700 To: "mgs-autox.team.net" Subject: [Mgs] Chrome shop in Sacramento From: Don via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thinking I might keep my MGA Mk2 and get it repainted. Its grille shell is dented, and I am thinking it might be better to repair it than buy a new one. Someone posted a while back about a shop in Sacramento that does rechroming, and I believe they were happy with the work. I didn't save the info. Can someone help on this topic? Thanks, Don --------------------------- Don Scott, Calistoga CA USA 1955 MGTF, 1962 MGA Mk2 (seeking, that does not need paint), 1962 MGA Mk 2 (will be selling, that does need paint), 1965 MGB, 2001 MIata SE BRG and misc. Japanese cars _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 20 21:44:56 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9322585364 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 21:44:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from d.mail.sonic.net (d.mail.sonic.net [64.142.111.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF28B258080C for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 21:26:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.0.1.4] (76-191-148-34.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [76.191.148.34]) (authenticated bits=0) by d.mail.sonic.net (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id t3L3WcvD006702 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 20:32:39 -0700 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 20:32:38 -0700 To: Mgs@autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] Chrome shop in Sacramento From: Rod Williams via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net PiBTb21lb25lIHBvc3RlZCBhIHdoaWxlIGJhY2sgYWJvdXQgYSBzaG9wIGluIFNhY3JhbWVudG8g dGhhdCBkb2VzIHJlY2hyb21pbmcsIGFuZCBJIGJlbGlldmUgdGhleSB3ZXJlIGhhcHB5IHdpdGgg dGhlIHdvcmsKClRoYXQgd291bGQgYmUgU2hlcm3igJlzIEN1c3RvbSBQbGF0aW5nIGluIFNhY3Jh bWVudG8sIENBLgoKLS0KUm9kIFdpbGxpYW1zClBldGFsdW1hLCBDYWxpZm9ybmlhCjE5NjcgTUdC CgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwoKTWdzQGF1 dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0CkRvbmF0ZTogaHR0cDovL3d3dy50ZWFtLm5ldC9kb25hdGUuaHRtbApTdWdn ZXN0ZWQgYW5udWFsIGRvbmF0aW9uICAkMTIuNzUKQXJjaGl2ZTogaHR0cDovL3d3dy50ZWFtLm5l dC9hcmNoaXZlCkZvcnVtczogaHR0cDovL3d3dy50ZWFtLm5ldC9mb3J1bXMKVW5zdWJzY3JpYmU6 IGh0dHA6Ly9hdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldC9tYWlsbWFuL29wdGlvbnMvbWdzL21oYXJjQGF1dG94LnRl YW0ubmV0Cg== From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 20 22:45:04 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB832585DA0 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 22:45:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vn0-f46.google.com (mail-vn0-f46.google.com [209.85.216.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FAC25803C9 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 22:20:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vnbg190 with SMTP id g190so32090310vnb.8 for ; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 21:26:23 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=ucUleOVKmYlVV5YzcygM/JAGiFNU2EXUs7VN7NVGZgw=; b=MnGQCcjz09xK9kLukkqc9Du8EVm5RiqWFAAVK5r87oKKgh+LJ1x4GOsppmawhKOp8w w01mTM/m6YbSvUgkeoRuAUvMp3RWLpCyEYBhr1SiDpwWlv4rGiWTT1txBz02zxcO7zjp XQpTSqzBpH96rFllEgBdN4UiKN+RG64NCm6rP8SCrSH1b2w2ygsi9KbgH4tYCz7dqPfX /lt2NtdjFNR2moESJ6hwxHkF3Dg3d9r7M99WvPKuNEXO7xFrhTfYIWpt/5E3tBpgXYfv pE7fxMu7MQDVB+WXbtldn0JNohOVXvF68nhQcoSMmYSQgRUvV+JApyqusdxRihXqs2Ka UXYQ== Mon, 20 Apr 2015 21:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.69.202 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Apr 2015 21:26:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 21:26:23 -0700 To: MGS Subject: [Mgs] Down on power -- where to look first? From: Simon Matthews via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I took a drive in my daughter's '71 MGB-GT yesterday. It felt like it did not have power at wide open throttle. It starts fine, ran fine with small throttle openings, but when I floor it, nothing happens. Flooring it results in a slight hesitation, then no more power than light accelerator depression. This isn't a high rev problem -- it happens at 2000-3000 rpm. There is no noticeable miss -- nothing that would point to an obvious ignition issue. The problem is steady-state -- hold down the throttle for a while and still nothing happens. So, where do I start looking? I plan to replace the plugs, check the distributor cap, points, etc.. I did pull the vacuum tube off the distributor when replacing the valve cover gasket, but I made sure that the tube is in place a both ends. Simon _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 21 00:45:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17ECF258535E for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 00:45:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy1-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy1-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.25.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0D06B2580471 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 00:30:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 17200 invoked by uid 0); 21 Apr 2015 06:36:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw4) (10.0.90.85) by gproxy1.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 21 Apr 2015 06:36:39 -0000 Received: from box522.bluehost.com ([74.220.219.122]) by cmgw4 with id JWcc1q0042f2jeq01WcfSS; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 00:36:39 -0600 a=GsOEXm/OWkKvwdLVJsfwcA==:117 a=GsOEXm/OWkKvwdLVJsfwcA==:17 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zo8hvysWAAAA:8 a=PH27ZC4J-VgA:10 a=rWmz7dX33jUA:10 a=e9J7MTPGsLIA:10 a=7bfyd3mCpZMSnZG0Rx4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 s=default; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:From:To:Date; bh=4ZnDWLTMpy/rSFn8XBhd72RUqAVA4ZoDky13JW5e3fA=; b=EYaFiWq8NkIbqz6Ak0kkPz/JpRHHotBUh5udMkcTrK7GbUKM3p3inkki1m3N8qa+vgrRnDmpxyBHycSFVCVGkWGnUw/0z5i5p+FtK79JpjsokKNGNeGRXFqpZEWg3S+p; Received: from [72.201.84.183] (port=54796 helo=BarneysPC.mgaguru.com) by box522.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YkRnP-0007tt-UH; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 00:36:36 -0600 Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 23:36:20 -0700 To: Simon Matthews ,MGS mail.com> References: {sentby:smtp auth 72.201.84.183 authed with barneymg@mgaguru.com} Subject: Re: [Mgs] Down on power -- where to look first? From: Barney Gaylord via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Simon, You need a helper for this (or get creative). Have a helper press the accellerator pedal to the floor while you watch the throttle arm on the carburetor. It may be the linkage is wrong so the throttle does notvopen all the way. At 09:26 PM 4/20/2015 -0700, Simon Matthews via Mgs wrote: >I took a drive in my daughter's '71 MGB-GT yesterday. > >It felt like it did not have power at wide open throttle. It starts >fine, ran fine with small throttle openings, but when I floor it, >nothing happens. Flooring it results in a slight hesitation, then no >more power than light accelerator depression. This isn't a high rev >problem -- it happens at 2000-3000 rpm. > >There is no noticeable miss -- nothing that would point to an obvious >ignition issue. The problem is steady-state -- hold down the throttle >for a while and still nothing happens. > >So, where do I start looking? I plan to replace the plugs, check the >distributor cap, points, etc.. I did pull the vacuum tube off the >distributor when replacing the valve cover gasket, but I made sure >that the tube is in place a both ends. >.... _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 21 04:46:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25F1125850AA for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 04:46:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819BD25805B6 for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 04:33:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-10-imp with bizsmtp id JafC1q00u4LtS4201afDsX; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 11:39:13 +0100 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=D8fBKddyOhTkNOCKZVcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 To: "Simon Matthews" , "MGS" References: Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 11:33:00 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Down on power -- where to look first? From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net The first thing to do is look at the tach. If that's jumping about then you have an ignition LT issue i.e. ignition supply, tach pickup, coil, points and distributor earth wire. If it's steady and looks like it is showing the correct engine speed then it's HT or fuel, or possibly the condenser if you have points. HT problems would normally cause misfiring, and explosions in the exhaust. Condensers usually work or they don't, but as a quick check temporarily add one from the coil -ve terminal (where the points wire goes) and earth. It does sound more like fuel though. Assuming SU or Zenith carb check the oil level in the dampers. Unscrew the caps, lift them up, press them back down, and you should feel the resistance of the damper in the oil before the cap reaches the neck. If the cap goes straight down they need more oil, up to the top of the tube down inside the neck. Another quick check is the fuel delivery. Remove a delivery pipe from a carb - be aware that if the ignition has recently been on you will probably get a spurt of fuel - and direct it into a container. Turn on the ignition and you should get a continuous series of regular pulses with minimal bubbling, delivering at the very least one Imperial pint per minute and in practice double that. Checking the throttle operation is not unreasonable, the cable could have slipped through the clamp at the carbs or the nipple at the pedal, although normally that would result in a very sloppy pedal with little travel. But if you can still feel resistance at the throttle pedal in the latter half of its travel and that isn't resulting in any increase in engine noise, revs or speed it is unlikely. Air filters could be choked, or anything to do with the setting up of the valve clearances, ignition system i.e. plugs, points, dwell, timing etc. or carb set up. Set them up in that order i.e. carbs last. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > It felt like it did not have power at wide open throttle. It starts > fine, ran fine with small throttle openings, but when I floor it, > nothing happens. Flooring it results in a slight hesitation, then no > more power than light accelerator depression. This isn't a high rev > problem -- it happens at 2000-3000 rpm. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 21 18:49:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3602584C5E for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 18:49:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D192580A2D for ; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 18:39:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BedroomPC (ool-18beb49a.dyn.optonline.net [24.190.180.154]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-9.20 (built Jul 15 2010)) with ESMTP id <0NN6002FSNFWY390@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for mgs@autox.team.net; Tue, 21 Apr 2015 20:45:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2015 20:45:41 -0400 To: mgs@autox.team.net Content-language: en-us Thread-index: AdB8lL7WwrHY/UudRy2AxkiMo+Hlmw== Subject: [Mgs] Subject: Down on power -- where to look first? From: John Di Fede via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============5647931116161804816== boundary="Boundary_(ID_YOa0Cckg1qk49I3LunNTjg)" Content-language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_YOa0Cckg1qk49I3LunNTjg) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Simon Check your fuel filter!! Also if you have a charcoal canister as part of the pollution control system, make sure the air line that runs from the fuel tank to the canister is not clogged. This line vents air to the fuel tank. If the line is clogged, a vacuum will develop in the gas tank as the fuel is drawn to the carburetors. If you have compressed air, blow air through the line where it attaches to the charcoal canister. Remove the gas cap and have someone listen for air escaping from the fuel filler neck. John DiFede 1973 MGB --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com --Boundary_(ID_YOa0Cckg1qk49I3LunNTjg) Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable

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Also  if you have a charcoal caniste= r as part of the pollution control system, make sure the air line that runs= from the fuel tank to the canister is not clogged.  This line vents a= ir to the fuel tank.  If the line is clogged, a vacuum will develop in= the gas tank as the fuel is drawn to the carburetors. 

 

If you have= compressed air, blow air through the line where it attaches to the charcoa= l canister.  Remove the gas cap and have someone listen for air escapi= ng from the fuel filler neck.  

 

John DiFede

1973 MGB



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We unscrewed the back have section and blew compressed ai= r and checked with two people - this section was clear but the from section= to the canister was clogged up.=C2=A0 We sprayed a little carb cleaner in = at both ends and blew more air going both directions.=C2=A0 A good amount o= f gunk came out both ends.=C2=A0 Use a rag at each end to catch the gunk wh= en blowing the air.=C2=A0 Problem solved.=C2=A0 We also swapped out the ori= ginal hoses in the trunk to the gas tank and canister=C2=A0 just to be sure= .=C2=A0 It sure is nice now to have no gas fumes in trunk.=C2=A0=20 Hope this helps. 1973 MGB with air pump removed, anti run on valve and charcoal canister sti= ll in place. RegardsJoel Martin, original owner =20 On Wednesday, April 22, 2015 2:32 PM, "mgs-request@autox.team.net" wrote: =20 ----- Forwarded Message ----- Send Mgs mailing list submissions to =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 mgs@autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 mgs-request@autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 mgs-owner@autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Mgs digest..." Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Today's Topics: =C2=A0 1. Subject:=C2=A0 Down on power -- where to look first? (John Di Fed= e) Simon =C2=A0Check your fuel filter!!=C2=A0 =C2= =A0Also =C2=A0if you have a charcoal canister as part of the pollution cont= rol system, make sure the air line that runs from the fuel tank to the cani= ster is not clogged.=C2=A0 This line vents air to the fuel tank.=C2=A0 If t= he line is clogged, a vacuum will develop in the gas tank as the fuel is dr= awn to the carburetors.=C2=A0 =C2=A0If you have compressed air, blow air t= hrough the line where it attaches to the charcoal canister.=C2=A0 Remove th= e gas cap and have someone listen for air escaping from the fuel filler nec= k. =C2=A0 =C2=A0John DiFede1973 MGB=20 | | This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus softw= are.=20 www.avast.com | _______________________________________________ Mgs mailing list Mgs@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs ------=_Part_3410200_830109435.1429794876376 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was also getting gas fumes in the trunk.&nb= sp; This line that runs from the charcoal canister to the tank has a connec= tion or two pieces to make the run to the tank. We unscrewed the back have = section and blew compressed air and checked with two people - this section = was clear but the from section to the canister was clogged up.  We spr= ayed a little carb cleaner in at both ends and blew more air going both dir= ections.  A good amount of gunk came out both ends.  Use a rag at= each end to catch the gunk when blowing the air.  Problem solved.&nbs= p; We also swapped out the original hoses in the trunk to the gas tank and = canister  just to be sure.  It sure is nice now to have no gas fu= mes in trunk. 

Hope this helps.

1973 MGB with air pump removed, anti run on valve and charcoal canister= still in place.

Re= gards
Joel M= artin, original owner



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Also  if you have a charcoal canister as part of = the pollution control system, make sure the air line that runs from the fue= l tank to the canister is not clogged.  This line vents air to the fue= l tank.  If the line is clogged, a vacuum will develop in the gas tank= as the fuel is drawn to the carburetors. 
 
If you = have compressed air, blow air through the line where it attaches to the cha= rcoal canister.  Remove the gas cap and have someone listen for air es= caping from the fuel filler neck.  
 
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I may switch to the one from Moss UK. Going to call Moss USA to find out if they can get it into stock. CR _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 23 10:31:03 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 880802584E92 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:31:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from c.mail.sonic.net (c.mail.sonic.net [64.142.111.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C259B25844C3 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:30:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.105] (173-228-28-9.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com [173.228.28.9]) (authenticated bits=0) by c.mail.sonic.net (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id t3NGauvg015229 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 09:36:57 -0700 Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 09:36:56 -0700 References: <1216694600.3410201.1429794876383.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <553916C2.2010704@ktc.com> To: mgs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Filter Adapter From: Max Heim via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net VGhhdCBsb29rcyBsaWtlIGEgZ29vZCBwaWVjZSB0byBtZS4gSSBhbSB1c2luZyB0aGUgb3RoZXIg b25lIG9uIHRoZSBNb3NzIE1vdG9ycyBwYWdlIOKAlCB0aGUgaW52ZXJ0ZWQgYWRhcHRlciAoNzIp LiBJIGRpZG7igJl0IHBheSAkMTAwIGZvciBpdCwgdGhvdWdoIC0tIEkgZm91bmQgaXQgYXQgdGhl IHdyZWNrZXJzLiBJdOKAmXMgY29udmVuaWVudCBidXQgYSBsaXR0bGUgbWVzc3kuCgotLQpNYXgg SGVpbQonNjYgTUdCIEdITjNMNzYxNDkKSWYgeW91J3JlIG5lYXIgTWVubG8gUGFyaywgQ0EsCml0 J3MgdGhlIHByaW1lciByZWQgb25lIHdpdGggY2hyb21lIHdpcmVzCkFuZCBub3cgNjcgTUdCIEdI TjNVMTM3OTQ5RwpPbGQgRW5nbGlzaCBXaGl0ZSwgb2ZmLXByZW1pc2VzIGZvciByZXN0b3JhdGlv bgoKPiBPbiBBcHIgMjMsIDIwMTUsIGF0IDg6NTggQU0sIENoYXJsZXkgJiBQZWdneSBSb2JpbnNv biB2aWEgTWdzIDxtZ3NAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQ+IHdyb3RlOgo+IAo+IEZvbGtzLCB0YWtlIGEg bG9vayBhdCB0aGlzOmh0dHA6Ly93d3cubWdleHAuY29tL3BoaWxlLzEvMjQzODIwL29pbGZpbHRl ci5qcGcKPiAKPiBBbmQgaGVyZSBpdCBpcyBvbiBNb3NzIFVLOiBodHRwOi8vd3d3Lm1vc3MtZXVy b3BlLmNvLnVrL3Nob3AtYnktbW9kZWwvbWcvbWdiLWMtdjgvZW5naW5lL29pbC1zeXN0ZW0vc3Bp bi1vbi1vaWwtZmlsdGVyLWNvbnZlcnNpb25zLmh0bWwKPiAKPiBJJ20gdXNpbmcgdGhpcyB3aGlj aCBpcyBOTEEgOiBodHRwOi8vd3d3Lm1vc3Ntb3RvcnMuY29tL1Nob3AvVmlld1Byb2R1Y3RzLmFz cHg/UGxhdGVJbmRleElEPTI4OTgwIExvb2sgYXQgaXRlbSAjNzcgJiBzY3JvbGwgZG93biB0byBp dC4KPiAKPiBJIG1heSBzd2l0Y2ggdG8gdGhlIG9uZSBmcm9tIE1vc3MgVUsuICBHb2luZyB0byBj YWxsIE1vc3MgVVNBIHRvIGZpbmQgb3V0IGlmIHRoZXkgY2FuIGdldCBpdCBpbnRvIHN0b2NrLgo+ IAo+IENSCj4gX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18K PiAKPiBNZ3NAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQKPiBEb25hdGU6IGh0dHA6Ly93d3cudGVhbS5uZXQvZG9u YXRlLmh0bWwKPiBTdWdnZXN0ZWQgYW5udWFsIGRvbmF0aW9uICAkMTIuNzUKPiBBcmNoaXZlOiBo dHRwOi8vd3d3LnRlYW0ubmV0L2FyY2hpdmUKPiBGb3J1bXM6IGh0dHA6Ly93d3cudGVhbS5uZXQv Zm9ydW1zCj4gVW5zdWJzY3JpYmU6IGh0dHA6Ly9hdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldC9tYWlsbWFuL29wdGlv bnMvbWdzL212aGVpbUBzb25pYy5uZXQKPiAKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCgpNZ3NAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQKRG9uYXRlOiBodHRwOi8vd3d3 LnRlYW0ubmV0L2RvbmF0ZS5odG1sClN1Z2dlc3RlZCBhbm51YWwgZG9uYXRpb24gICQxMi43NQpB cmNoaXZlOiBodHRwOi8vd3d3LnRlYW0ubmV0L2FyY2hpdmUKRm9ydW1zOiBodHRwOi8vd3d3LnRl YW0ubmV0L2ZvcnVtcwpVbnN1YnNjcmliZTogaHR0cDovL2F1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0L21haWxtYW4v b3B0aW9ucy9tZ3MvbWhhcmNAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQK From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 23 11:14:51 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CD52584C1E for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:14:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plwbeout06-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtp06-02-2.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [97.74.135.57]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32D1925845B0 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:04:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost ([97.74.135.115]) by p3plwbeout06-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with bizsmtp id KVB11q0012VZMk101VB1xK; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:11:01 -0700 Received: (qmail 23871 invoked by uid 99); 23 Apr 2015 17:11:01 -0000 User-Agent: Workspace Webmail 5.14.0 To: ccrobins@ktc.com, "mgs@autox.team.net" Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:10:59 -0700 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Filter Adapter From: dcouncill--- via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4603758929681771914== Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You mean this one:
Also known as Moss part 235-940, looks the same as = the Moss UK one. I converted my 64B and 67BGT over, no longer using the old= canister method.

David Councill
64 B
67 BGT
72 B
65 B in pieces
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=0A-------- Original Message= --------
=0ASubject: [Mgs] Oil Filter Adapter
=0AFrom: Charley &= Peggy Robinson via Mgs <mgs@autox= .team.net>
=0ADate: Thu, April 23, 2015 8:58 am
=0ATo: "mgs@autox.team.net" <mgs@autox.team.net>
=0A
=0AFolks, take = a look at this:http://www.mgexp.com/phile/1/243820/oilfilter.jpg
=0A
=0AAnd he= re it is on Moss UK:
=0Ah= ttp://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/mg/mgb-c-v8/engine/oil-system/spi= n-on-oil-filter-conversions.html
=0A
=0AI'm using this which is N= LA :
=0Ahttp://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIn= dexID=3D28980 Look
=0Aat item #77 & scroll down to it.
=0A=0AI may switch to the one from Moss UK. Going to call Moss USA to find =
=0Aout if they can get it into stock.
=0A
=0ACR
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=0A=0A=0A --===============4603758929681771914== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============4603758929681771914==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 23 11:29:38 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6952584E0D for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:29:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from gproxy10-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy10-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.20.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A0EC2584637 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:24:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 30194 invoked by uid 0); 23 Apr 2015 17:30:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw4) (10.0.90.85) by gproxy10.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2015 17:30:48 -0000 Received: from box522.bluehost.com ([74.220.219.122]) by cmgw4 with id KVWl1q00Y2f2jeq01VWoLf; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:30:48 -0600 a=GsOEXm/OWkKvwdLVJsfwcA==:117 a=GsOEXm/OWkKvwdLVJsfwcA==:17 a=cNaOj0WVAAAA:8 a=f5113yIGAAAA:8 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zo8hvysWAAAA:8 a=PH27ZC4J-VgA:10 a=enqgbqZq34MA:10 a=e9J7MTPGsLIA:10 a=pJTeZVvJAAAA:8 a=DDtQs07TAAAA:8 a=z1R5-WJlAAAA:8 a=k4QVEa1g8OUzqXO3blIA:9 a=eZfA_SDzQh627rBC:21 a=tNl8GxqhIONh91UV:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=A8BlNtHo67AA:10 a=6e9-dNrAdJAA:10 a=o8hDQ0G7OvMA:10 s=default; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:From:To:Date; bh=9cFJeSqj2cdsSgtzzvakTUDds5rX34uaWaptaHJBtqE=; b=Ba1zrz9Y/HZozQ0+5j+Qj0Zc8hpULWmuC+dvfSMenh1tPYaFw0Y1g6MOchpZ5O8L7bmhSHVrP7xVgMuux3L+eu2FEPEC8nfBemRT5qHrCTSa5a9MMpcHVkLBz+xFIO+d; Received: from [64.134.159.195] (port=51916 helo=BarneysPC.mgaguru.com) by box522.bluehost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1YlKxZ-00080h-0f; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:30:45 -0600 Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 10:23:00 -0700 To: ccrobins@ktc.com,"mgs@autox.team.net" References: <1216694600.3410201.1429794876383.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <553916C2.2010704@ktc.com> {sentby:smtp auth 64.134.159.195 authed with barneymg@mgaguru.com} Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Filter Adapter From: Barney Gaylord via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net CR, That straight hanging adapter from Moss is available in US as weol as UK. But it has a serious problem with poor design such that the filter can jam on the unit and cannot be removed. Some filters may work. Many filters will jam in place. Occasionally one will leak due to lack of seating the seal. The issue is inadewuate space at the shoulder of the hex fitting with the screw-on thread. For many years Moss has refused to acknowledge the problem and will not fix it. Each individual customer is then stuck with figuring it out and having to do a field mod to make it serviceable. It is best to modify the part before installation or do not install it at all. See details and reports here: http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/faulty/ft026.htm At 10:58 AM 4/23/2015 -0500, Charley & Peggy Robinson via Mgs wrote: >Folks, take a look at this:http://www.mgexp.com/phile/1/243820/oilfilter.jpg > >And here it is on Moss UK: >http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/mg/mgb-c-v8/engine/oil-system/spin-on-oil-filter-conversions.html > >I'm using this which is NLA : >http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=28980 >Look at item #77 & scroll down to it. > >I may switch to the one from Moss UK. Going to call Moss USA to >find out if they can get it into stock. > >CR _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 23 13:44:47 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68773258470C for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 13:44:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from pacmmta56.windstream.net (pacmmta56.windstream.net [162.39.147.222]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F00125807AC for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 13:39:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([72.172.26.173]) by pacmmta56.windstream.net with pacmmta56 id KXlo1q00S3k5Q0801XloLd; Thu, 23 Apr 2015 15:45:49 -0400 a=1aU83GP09fMywXQ5EEUIUw==:117 a=1aU83GP09fMywXQ5EEUIUw==:17 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=naziTCeN6agA:10 a=N659UExz7-8A:10 a=Ov22w-J6AAAA:8 a=d18hrbwch0wPYjJ89_QA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 Authentication-Results: pacmmta56.windstream.net ; auth=pass smtp.auth=ccrobins@ktc.com Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 14:45:42 -0500 Organization: Computer Helpers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 To: "mgs@autox.team.net" References: <1216694600.3410201.1429794876383.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <553916C2.2010704@ktc.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Filter Adapter From: Charley & Peggy Robinson via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Folks, I talked to Moss USA about this adapter. They say that it can't be used on the '68 and later Bs because the later starter is longer than the earlier one, so it sticks into the space that the filter would occupy if it was hung straight down. I suppose that's why the adapter I have (77 on the diagram)) was made. Why it's NLA is beyond me. I came by mine in a box of miscellaneous parts that was in the boot of the '70 B that I used to have. Barney, that's good info, thanks. Looks to me that the best way to fix that is to mill the hole in the casting deeper. CR _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 24 02:50:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646A22584B21 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 02:50:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-10.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB4225804B7 for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 02:44:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-10-imp with bizsmtp id Kkqj1q00Y4LtS4201kqj97; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 09:50:43 +0100 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=CmXCX9tbYZvXGN3vHAkA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 To: References: <1216694600.3410201.1429794876383.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <553916C2.2010704@ktc.com> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 10:02:26 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Filter Adapter From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net RldJVyBJJ3ZlIGdvdCB0d28gaGFuZ2luZyBmaWx0ZXJzIGFuZCBvbmUgaW52ZXJ0ZWQsIGFuZCBm b3IgbWUgdGhlIGludmVydGVkIAppcyBmYXIgZWFzaWVyIHRvIGhhbmRsZSBhbmQgbm8gbWVzc2ll ci4gIFRoZSBwcm9ibGVtIHdpdGggdGhlIGhhbmdpbmcgaXMgCnRoYXQgYXMgc29vbiBhcyB0aGUg c2VhbCBicmVha3Mgb24gdW5zY3Jld2luZyBvaWwgcnVucyBkb3duIHRoZSBvdXRzaWRlLCAKbWFr aW5nIHRoZSBjYW4gc2xpcHB5IGFuZCBpbXBvc3NpYmxlIHRvIGdyaXAgd2l0aCBnbG92ZXMsIEkg aGF2ZSB0byB3cmFwIAptYXNraW5nIHRhcGUgcm91bmQgdGhlbSBmaXJzdC4gIFRoZXkgYWxzbyBu ZWVkIHNvbWV0aGluZyB1bmRlcm5lYXRoIHRoZW0gdG8gCmNhdGNoIHRoZSBkcmlwcGluZyBvaWws IGp1c3QgbGlrZSB0aGUgaW52ZXJ0ZWQsIGJ1dCBJJ2QgcmF0aGVyIGJlIGhhbmRsaW5nIGEgCmNs ZWFuIGNhbm5pc3RlciB0aGFuIG9uZSBjb3ZlcmVkIGluIG9pbC4KCkFsc28gRldJVyBmcm9tIHdo YXQgSSd2ZSBzZWVuIHRoZSBmYWN0b3J5IG9ubHkgdXNlZCB0aGUgaGFuZ2luZyBzY3Jldy1vbiBm b3IgCmZvdXIgbW9udGhzLCBidXQgaXQgd2FzIGZyb20gT2N0IDczIHRvIEZlYiA3NCB3aGVyZWFz IHRoZSBzYW1lIDJNMTAwIHN0YXJ0ZXIgCndhcyB1c2VkIGZyb20gQXVndXN0IDcxIG9ud2FyZHMs IGFuZCBtb2RpZmllZCAxOFYgZW5naW5lcyBmb3IgdGhlIHJ1YmJlciAKYnVtcGVyIG1vZGVscyBk aWRuJ3Qgc3RhcnQgdW50aWwgU2VwdGVtYmVyIDc0LiAgU28gSSBkb24ndCBzZWUgd2hhdCB0aGUg CnN0YXJ0ZXIgaGFzIHRvIGRvIHdpdGggZmlyc3QgdGhlIGludHJvZHVjdGlvbiBvZiBhIGhhbmdp bmcgc3Bpbi1vbiBhbmQgdGhlbiAKdGhlIGFsbW9zdCBpbW1lZGlhdGUgcmV2ZXJzaW9uIHRvIGlu dmVydGVkLgoKUGF1bEguCgotLS0tLSBPcmlnaW5hbCBNZXNzYWdlIC0tLS0tIAoKPiAuLi4gSSBh bSB1c2luZyB0aGUgb3RoZXIgb25lIG9uIHRoZSBNb3NzIE1vdG9ycyBwYWdlIOKAlCB0aGUgaW52 ZXJ0ZWQgCj4gYWRhcHRlciAoNzIpLiBJIGRpZG7igJl0IHBheSAkMTAwIGZvciBpdCwgdGhvdWdo IC0tIEkgZm91bmQgaXQgYXQgdGhlIAo+IHdyZWNrZXJzLiBJdOKAmXMgY29udmVuaWVudCBidXQg YSBsaXR0bGUgbWVzc3kuCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fXwoKTWdzQGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0CkRvbmF0ZTogaHR0cDovL3d3dy50ZWFtLm5ldC9k b25hdGUuaHRtbApTdWdnZXN0ZWQgYW5udWFsIGRvbmF0aW9uICAkMTIuNzUKQXJjaGl2ZTogaHR0 cDovL3d3dy50ZWFtLm5ldC9hcmNoaXZlCkZvcnVtczogaHR0cDovL3d3dy50ZWFtLm5ldC9mb3J1 bXMKVW5zdWJzY3JpYmU6IGh0dHA6Ly9hdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldC9tYWlsbWFuL29wdGlvbnMvbWdz L21oYXJjQGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0Cg== From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 24 05:07:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6875C2584861 for ; 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24 Apr 2015 11:12:53 -0000 OwSUMQ1rmSyfZ5OcHthFfop2oEAzgVyljaIxU1hrR2Wqia.HVgmD0_ShhQM1IV35D0C1ANo.IvsU 45oYPBC.ldlPQSIG5ym1YUv9aOGxWgGorFMGmuUBIiuEZFlAwhSl5MhrPK1s1WxdENlNGNyZxgv7 7wka0V7jUbApsM9nMvEh0TpznkoV50jF3VI4b0kNTxray.zgwLtTuUgGLRQLd18PFqNRBO6TiWlm 8TGsjSn3yOX7QO7MCNP.u_tleJiqCRrBX4D1BUAVZgF01CzKV4ucOMI11xhbJLMrBwyE8QKXBVyN TVA5mFGZHSTgjpT1HqhlifqN9xLxaO_mZshIqcWEdv3IXPLFAhfSwIeD1FZLBUynIPfHa2yMRneh 7bApObDWYdpVmJBq9IVOzYyRLD2xSL2k5hkLp5v9jDBBevSR5_s_PFuVpF18X3seHhV82yRI1nk9 6PvfdWR3OdVPH Received: by 66.196.80.118; Fri, 24 Apr 2015 11:12:53 +0000 Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 11:12:52 +0000 (UTC) To: Barney Gaylord , "mgs@autox.team.net" References: <20150423172950.64A842584EE7@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Was: Oil Filter Adapter Now: On the Road From: Dan DiBiase via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1726151309286071253== boundary="----=_Part_4299677_1717018509.1429873972724" ------=_Part_4299677_1717018509.1429873972724 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey, Barney, I've enjoyed the MGA with an Attitude's on the road odyssey ve= ry much! Thanks for taking the time to post the pics and commentary of your= post-retirement travels! Very envious.... Dan D'76B, '65BCentral NJ USA From: Barney Gaylord via Mgs To: ccrobins@ktc.com; "mgs@autox.team.net" =20 Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Filter Adapter =20 CR, That straight hanging adapter from Moss is available in US as weol as=20 UK.=C2=A0 But it has a serious problem with poor design such that the=20 filter can jam on the unit and cannot be removed.=C2=A0 Some filters may=20 work.=C2=A0 Many filters will jam in place.=C2=A0 Occasionally one will lea= k=20 due to lack of seating the seal.=C2=A0 The issue is inadewuate space at=20 the shoulder of the hex fitting with the screw-on thread. For many years Moss has refused to acknowledge the problem and will=20 not fix it.=C2=A0 Each individual customer is then stuck with figuring it= =20 out and having to do a field mod to make it serviceable.=C2=A0 It is best= =20 to modify the part before installation or do not install it at=20 all.=C2=A0 See details and reports here: http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/faulty/f= t026.htm At 10:58 AM 4/23/2015 -0500, Charley & Peggy Robinson via Mgs wrote: >Folks, take a look at this:http://www.mgexp.com/phile/1/243820/oilfilter.j= pg > >And here it is on Moss UK:=20 >http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/mg/mgb-c-v8/engine/oil-system/s= pin-on-oil-filter-conversions.html > >I'm using this which is NLA :=20 >http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=3D28980=20 >Look at item #77 & scroll down to it. > >I may switch to the one from Moss UK.=C2=A0 Going to call Moss USA to=20 >find out if they can get it into stock. > >CR _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com ------=_Part_4299677_1717018509.1429873972724 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey, Barney, I've enjoyed the MGA w= ith an Attitude's on the road odyssey very much! Thanks for taking the time= to post the pics and commentary of your
post-retirement travels! Very envious....

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Cen= tral NJ USA

From: Barney Gaylord via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>= ;
To: ccrobins@ktc.com= ; "mgs@autox.team.net" <mgs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:23 PM
= Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Filter= Adapter

CR,

That st= raight hanging adapter from Moss is available in US as weol as
UK.  But it has a serious problem with poor design such that th= e
filter can jam on the unit and cannot be removed. = ; Some filters may
work.  Many filters will jam in = place.  Occasionally one will leak
due to lack of s= eating the seal.  The issue is inadewuate space at
= the shoulder of the hex fitting with the screw-on thread.

For many years Moss has refused to acknowledge the prob= lem and will
not fix it.  Each individual customer = is then stuck with figuring it
out and having to do a fi= eld mod to make it serviceable.  It is best
to modi= fy the part before installation or do not install it at
= all.  See details and reports here: http://mgaguru.com/mg= tech/faulty/ft026.htm




At 10:58 AM 4/23/2015 -0500, Charley & Peggy Ro= binson via Mgs wrote:
>Folks, take a look at this:http://www.mgexp.com/phile/1/243820/oilfilter.jpg
>
>And here it is on Moss UK:
>http://www.moss-europe.co.uk/shop-by-model/mg/mgb-c-v8/e= ngine/oil-system/spin-on-oil-filter-conversions.html
= >
>I'm using this which is NLA :
>http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop= /ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=3D28980
>Look at = item #77 & scroll down to it.
>
= >I may switch to the one from Moss UK.  Going to call Moss USA to <= br clear=3D"none">>find out if they can get it into stock.
>
>CR

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From: Richard Lindsay via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Today, while having lunch at The Black Laborador pub, a beautiful chrome bumper MGB arrived. The driver disappeared into the pub and I did not meet him. However, he may be a member here. Is this you? http://aubard.us/MG/20150426_125141e.jpg Yes, I PhotoShopped the license plate white. -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 26 16:25:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0B2258081A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 16:25:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from rc3-smtp.comporium.net (rc3-smtp.comporium.net [208.104.2.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6688258049F for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 16:02:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rg25.comporium.net ([208.104.244.60]) by rc3-smtp.comporium.net ({885c17cc-cff6-4d92-8caa-cc0fa3baf93b}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20150426220856600 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 22:08:56 +0000 Received: from 67-197-111-194.rh5.cm.dyn.comporium.net (EHLO _192.168.1.112_) ([67.197.111.194]) by rg24.comporium.net (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id UXL78892 (AUTH thgun@comporium.net); Sun, 26 Apr 2015 18:08:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 18:08:54 -0400 To: "mgs@autox.team.net" Subject: [Mgs] MGA parts From: Tom Gunderson via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Looking for nos maybe good used parts. Engine hand crank , choke cable, turn signal flasher can. Tom Gunderson Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 26 16:56:50 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD3D32580656 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 16:56:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from rc4-smtp.comporium.net (rc4-smtp.comporium.net [208.104.2.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F19F258080D for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 16:26:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from rg25.comporium.net ([208.104.244.60]) by rc4-smtp.comporium.net ({f885e408-6373-4fe1-96b5-c2a14748506e}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20150426223215595; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 22:32:15 +0000 Received: from 67-197-111-194.rh5.cm.dyn.comporium.net (EHLO _192.168.1.123_) ([67.197.111.194]) by rg24.comporium.net (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id UXL89099 (AUTH thgun@comporium.net); Sun, 26 Apr 2015 18:32:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 18:32:14 -0400 To: Mga List Subject: [Mgs] MGA nos parts From: Tom Gunderson via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Looking for manual engine crank, choke cable and turn signal flasher can. Tom Sent from my iPhone 6 _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 26 17:40:49 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECDD22584599 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 17:40:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.127]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CC57258556A for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 17:14:02 -0600 (MDT) t=1430090415; bh=lguliGHyb2WhwnTALkjkGayb3OAgwmaF1W2t3aqX8ho=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=oiWOahEkhJHzuwo8XJ/zL/btRQ9c5BeRaW9I4r2Nn1GlCkMa6KwM22K1SxPVaI9QDFLbOsagpxjd+PEL5XQ/pttuS+qNQPFHuJG/L5zMFMZK8AjalbdGB9m3bFoUbDGSvs/pZf7mlxkohMCUjSwniNawWn+dZA80jYvMF4dkiA6bQxmYRJx46JOm3Nai601FBovcjWk7gHb2tfT5+6YjaDQj7erCNArA/8x1wQYgDi3VL71WSvdyusd/01GvmWqNgPzdaYYqzH7u9FzSuHkm/jFtN9LdQmSZm1zyIvGYkJHXW3dOXuqUc2Sr+f7KoegjZX0LTdXEd3/Qr7f8XlZqnA== Received: from [98.139.170.178] by nm22.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2015 23:20:15 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.193] by tm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2015 23:20:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2015 23:20:15 -0000 YFjtUBKNeF_kokj_hpPLVSEwM9wJCaM_ClIIyJfe3mXaPlvkXPuEMmd3vPENWCqbncZMMpI.BV9V 6wWQgOAtqASXEkNc02rDFiga8v8859IkjvXFvNxrROOMZ9wM32T8YdfMLSapvZdU.E2zw9zvkNax 6wB5uPhK6hPCJ5SNIUewJNo8g7gLY7pR4Zy5roITJ_bK.frIijFwriTLTBE3ZgM.tewR8Zxd_PbL VVLMdDb0hI5LuGkjDBexm.xrZKWfszFCHSiGj7uDY0P6Ko12dBjzt2rZBUsvS8e7yIdBF0eEuwmh vm9ZGAOaFA7sQ1iYZZleoYsZ3KzrxBT_5BwXNzpJ4FvhRtcAC8X4XLpo7ZdszkcqlTuOH1wstMYl 40JYxv81.f4YzUHJJhlETfDMMcbjGbPmNDwV9vWxidsN8jy8wUD4JXjmGh.bsCLIXDjfoGoRqH32 n0Ya0kNM- Received: by 66.196.81.117; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 23:20:15 +0000 Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 23:20:14 +0000 (UTC) To: Richard Lindsay , "mgs@autox.team.net List" References: Subject: Re: [Mgs] Is this you? From: Dan DiBiase via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0919240674797289554== boundary="----=_Part_5739728_1190089126.1430090414529" ------=_Part_5739728_1190089126.1430090414529 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Whomever it is needs to learn how to stow their top ;-) Dan D'76B, '65BCentral NJ USA From: Richard Lindsay via Mgs To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" =20 Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 5:28 PM Subject: [Mgs] Is this you? =20 Today, while having lunch at The Black Laborador pub, a beautiful chrome bumper MGB arrived. The driver disappeared into the pub and I did not meet him. However, he may be a member here. Is this you? http://aubard.us/MG/20150426_125141e.jpg Yes, I PhotoShopped the license plate white. -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com ------=_Part_5739728_1190089126.1430090414529 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Whomever it is n= eeds to learn how to stow their top ;-)

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central= NJ USA
From: Richard Lindsay via Mgs &l= t;mgs@autox.team.net>
To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" <mgs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 5:28 PM=
Subject: [Mgs] Is thi= s you?

Today, while having lunch at The Black Laborador = pub, a beautiful
chrome bumper MGB arrived. The driver disappeared into = the pub and I
did not meet him. However, he may be a member here. Is thi= s you?

http://aubard.us/MG/20150= 426_125141e.jpg

Yes, I PhotoShopped the license plate white.
=
-rick
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------=_Part_5739728_1190089126.1430090414529-- --===============0919240674797289554== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============0919240674797289554==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 26 18:41:22 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF0BB2584DB5 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 18:41:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm2-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.158]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9CCD25807F2 for ; Sun, 26 Apr 2015 18:16:25 -0600 (MDT) t=1430094159; bh=UIyufE9Z3ojGgKUNP8tsUQKtPe/Zt213s9Aj4T4S2xs=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=bfl9IB/SUvd4xYDH6mNsB1fEIYpR4Ms1MVbUv8wLhdUxOe4cFxdc6vDn9of3EcWuI59xmbgaYRZr0G9UgZ79iZgI52j8f+9u4eGG2XRgcJ+qXbl8guQ2/5emWFI2jv8YTQWSyn04B74OjS9REx8czl8CgzPqVryskDceMfpFeggqL7z4dMH9lc0yWWqYBAPuqam4J67Pzdtz54QQR988RjRbhpTCpma81rgK91ikQmCANYZ3XxO/GYUzosKURHGfQC/gVvfHXXqzOTRa//Xl6PAY0ZS0jvNiAo3BHD+LYVFWsL9RJ9KX+VETNX+tJ0vtCd5ZOzZ6c0i15PLrNmoRjw== Received: from [66.196.81.174] by nm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Apr 2015 00:22:39 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.248] by tm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Apr 2015 00:22:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1057.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Apr 2015 00:22:39 -0000 atzUpHVY0MhV3GcZyQQZApHp5eMleZMeFD55yYb5eib523mtosih0kyORAZe3ug_G_1UPf6BFD4u 4C0wJP5LHKckPwGJG_TcS8OTPqkYPbT7yBiUqGirZTh46nBZ8uyvhqkbOI.vYMa7Cx9nDDImPuNC AURav1Af1Tg.tHKEidUftYi4v0o5W.shpZAlzD7s0YUc8V3vYkTwzKxIakeqdVdmB7ZE2CikJTdg u0Csm.IfIYslyFEjJ9s0uLQ7i2BOZ4_Ql.8E57l8kHbzJNBSqSK1XhOqSSDAMR1ftJAc2yjWGKCZ nTKVNOgoTEUsXq5cSM.IoMfikFaRSIoukZzKjJQhqZJNQGxMuZCgtM30hPxLYCjwwdcHPM92a.Rf NjXhxwDBVbQV.oL01qM1q5n4YeAJQ8ahI5JUh7ZWZaAzDi1lcWmgX6CbhPblHxfLw1dNvAuuBINp 1NAg8uGg7oqyOYB8- Received: by 66.196.81.118; Mon, 27 Apr 2015 00:22:38 +0000 Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2015 00:22:38 +0000 (UTC) To: MG List References: Subject: Re: [Mgs] Is this you? 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From: Dan DiBiase via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5743099153400291117== boundary="----=_Part_6055422_601391774.1430133214542" ------=_Part_6055422_601391774.1430133214542 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, for sure..... And I like the color, looks like a darker version of Min= eral Blue, perhaps.... Dan D'76B, '65BCentral NJ USA From: Rick Lindsay via Mgs To: David Breneman ; MG List =20 Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 8:56 PM Subject: Re: [Mgs] Is this you? =20 Yes. There's also an LE plate on the late-model dash, but it has chrome bu= mpers. Of course, we know those can be retrofitted. Nice car though, if som= e incongruous bits. Better than spotting yet another Prius. :-P -rick / '53 TD -------- Original message -------- From: David Breneman via Mgs =20 Date: 04/26/2015 7:22 PM (GMT-06:00)=20 To: MG List =20 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Is this you?=20 From: Richard Lindsay via Mgs >Today, while having lunch at The Black Laborador pub, a beautiful >chrome bumper MGB arrived. The driver disappeared into the pub and I >did not meet him. However, he may be a member here. Is this you? > >http://aubard.us/MG/20150426_125141e.jpg The dashboard and bumpers seem incongruous. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/richardolindsay@gmai= l.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com ------=_Part_6055422_601391774.1430133214542 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, for sure....= . And I like the color, looks like a darker version of Mineral Blue, perhap= s....

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA

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Yes. There's also an LE plate o= n the late-model dash, but it has chrome bumpers. Of course, we know those = can be retrofitted. Nice car though, if some incongruous bits. Better than = spotting yet another Prius. :-P

-rick / '53 TD<= /div>





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>Tod= ay, while having lunch at The Black Laborador pub, a beautiful
>chrom= e bumper MGB arrived. The driver disappeared into the pub and I
>did = not meet him. However, he may be a member here. Is this you?
>
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------=_Part_6055422_601391774.1430133214542-- --===============5743099153400291117== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============5743099153400291117==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 28 07:29:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2EE72585785 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 07:29:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp673.redcondor.net (smtp673.redcondor.net [208.80.206.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691072580472; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 07:28:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailproxy3.av-mx.com ([137.118.40.133]) by smtp673.redcondor.net ({21db24bc-c396-4737-85f2-c3611ebe5ab6}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20150428133505912_0673; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:35:05 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.106] (64-179-194-246.hartcom.net [64.179.194.246]) (Authenticated sender: jimray@hartcom.net) by mailproxy3.av-mx.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 415DD2001FB; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 09:35:00 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 09:35:02 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 To: MG-V8 List , MG Digest Subject: [Mgs] MGB V8 rear end noise From: Jim Ray via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============3772631647055130807== boundary="------------050405080901000406070805" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------050405080901000406070805 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My 1980 MGB V8 conversion has a Ford 8" rear end that makes a terrible whining noise. I have replaced the crown and pinion gears but saw no improvement. I am guessing that the pinion angle may be off. Does anyone have a suggestion to what the proper angle should be? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Jim Ray --------------050405080901000406070805 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My 1980 MGB V8 conversion has a Ford 8" rear end that makes a terrible whining noise. I have replaced the crown and pinion gears but saw no improvement. I am guessing that the pinion angle may be off. Does anyone have a suggestion to what the proper angle should be? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Jim Ray
 --------------050405080901000406070805-- --===============3772631647055130807== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============3772631647055130807==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 28 09:19:31 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9FF025855E8 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 09:19:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-11.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-11.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267602584486 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 09:19:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([82.33.136.201]) by know-smtprelay-11-imp with bizsmtp id MTRL1q00p4LtS4201TRLY6; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 16:25:20 +0100 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=VBzjap2SAAAA:8 a=pLPWc71Li9FwwXuUa_EA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=2kzg9PYAZO7mf9wHLE8A:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=YoHHhzezPWCd72KMXRt8+g==:117 To: "Jim Ray" , "MG-V8 List" , "MG Digest" References: <553F8C86.5080406@hartcom.net> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 16:14:32 +0100 Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB V8 rear end noise From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============8032406380948403913== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E9_01D081CE.694E9C70" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E9_01D081CE.694E9C70 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know nowt about Ford rear ends and little enough of MGB, but are they = even adjustable? Incidentally the propshaft should always be at an angle to both the = gearbox output shaft and the diff input shaft under steady running = conditions so as to force the UJ bearings to rotate back and fore as the = propshaft rotates. If they are always dead in line the UJ bearings will = wear rapidly. http://www.hurst-drivelines.com/files/Universal_Joint_Alignment_Proc_1116= 06.pdf ----- Original Message -----=20 ... I am guessing that the pinion angle may be off. Does anyone have a = suggestion to what the proper angle should be? ------=_NextPart_000_00E9_01D081CE.694E9C70 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
I know nowt about Ford rear ends and little enough = of MGB, but=20 are they even adjustable?
 
Incidentally the propshaft should always be at an = angle to=20 both the gearbox output shaft and the diff input shaft under steady = running=20 conditions so as to force the UJ bearings to rotate back = and fore=20 as the propshaft rotates.  If they are always dead in line the UJ = bearings=20 will wear rapidly.
 
 
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... I am=20 guessing that the pinion angle may be off. Does anyone have a = suggestion to=20 what the proper angle should be? =
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Dan D'76B, '65BCentral NJ USA From: Jim Ray via Mgs To: MG-V8 List ; MG Digest =20 Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 9:35 AM Subject: [Mgs] MGB V8 rear end noise =20 My 1980 MGB V8 conversion has a Ford 8" rear end that makes a terrible wh= ining noise. I have replaced the crown and pinion gears but saw no improvem= ent. I am guessing that the pinion angle may be off. Does anyone have a sug= gestion to what the proper angle should be? Any suggestions would be greatl= y appreciated. =20 Jim Ray =20 _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com ------=_Part_66366_547891479.1430264655566 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jim, you might w= ant to try the MGB Experience web site, they have a forum on swapped B's th= at might be of help.

=
Dan D
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= My 1980 MGB V8 conversion has a Ford 8" rear end that makes a terrible whining noise. I have replaced the crown and pinion gears but saw no improvement. I am guessing that the pinion angle may be off. Does anyone have a suggestion to what the proper angle should be? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Jim Ray

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------=_Part_66366_547891479.1430264655566-- --===============9078369648860021995== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============9078369648860021995==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 28 19:18:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D49192584EEB for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 19:18:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from pacmmta55.windstream.net (pacmmta55.windstream.net [162.39.147.221]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A0AB2580706 for ; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 19:18:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.2] ([207.155.7.153]) by pacmmta55.windstream.net with pacmmta55 id MdQp1q00V3J6ABT01dQp3U; Tue, 28 Apr 2015 21:24:50 -0400 a=VH+dB167fAUbOhg/7mzXTg==:117 a=VH+dB167fAUbOhg/7mzXTg==:17 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=naziTCeN6agA:10 a=Ov22w-J6AAAA:8 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=gZbpxnkM3yUA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=dqghAHgPIChYmrjSC74A:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=wfSO0lIzAAAA:8 a=Iua-0l_BCpFTaOmJtuYA:9 a=KexzY5CdpFxIdVkL:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Authentication-Results: pacmmta55.windstream.net ; auth=pass smtp.auth=ccrobins@ktc.com Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 20:24:45 -0500 Organization: Computer Helpers User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 To: Jim Ray , MGB List , MG Digest References: <553F8C86.5080406@hartcom.net> Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB V8 rear end noise From: Charley & Peggy Robinson via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============9116845675878167459== boundary="------------000704070500030405030900" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000704070500030405030900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Even a new ring & pinion set will whine if the gear lash is not set correctly. Who installed the parts & set them up? Another thing to look for is wear in the isolator pads between the axle & the springs. You don't want metal-to-metal contact. CR On 4/28/2015 8:35 AM, Jim Ray via Mgs wrote: > My 1980 MGB V8 conversion has a Ford 8" rear end that makes a terrible > whining noise. I have replaced the crown and pinion gears but saw no > improvement. I am guessing that the pinion angle may be off. Does > anyone have a suggestion to what the proper angle should be? Any > suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > Jim Ray > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins@ktc.com --------------000704070500030405030900 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Even a new ring & pinion set will whine if the gear lash is not set correctly.  Who installed the parts & set them up?  Another thing to look for is wear in the isolator pads between the axle & the springs.  You don't want metal-to-metal contact.

CR

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My 1980 MGB V8 conversion has a Ford 8" rear end that makes a terrible whining noise. I have replaced the crown and pinion gears but saw no improvement. I am guessing that the pinion angle may be off. Does anyone have a suggestion to what the proper angle should be? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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