From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 5 20:55:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7627A258926A for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2016 20:55:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B20C42588C05 for ; Mon, 5 Sep 2016 10:08:44 -0600 (MDT) t=1473091732; bh=9s1IKvRLUmBU1s0qdSlVOK84vuyosuNevHeqmE8gjro=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:References:From:Subject; b=PbfVgTKwzfXHPStva1qN/mbvqdNbjUiwBqk2qzKwzQdIdy9ywyotgbk7zGK1voLTm/jxZRhhMLZymSKHmenUqFuXYuYetcAC9Q2jHtoHsRj1FnsUvuyM2AGcZIfE5IZMVW01rlilwN24gwitg4zaOq8n8qvJNoYmznVYGDJVbIkt3LYAyVld4U+9EKkheO0Dq74SDjh5HqXPXZzBcLkbWncCl+CjXasKhdXHcEYzO/hQ99TCZy4dpQgK2V1L7CQqGLSTe+yDp8mqh1bqpdku3mk9NSvzgMTNxCXWOvLi8r+Bl3S7Wrb6bV9nssBNbDJl0oHR3pRDskcNLfwOYy2fRQ== Received: from [66.196.81.172] by nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2016 16:08:52 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.219] by tm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2016 16:08:52 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2016 16:08:52 -0000 Lq2QML9TX1DUByPw2x3IklKlW2iz.osPVLgiC_BlUY8zTfI9yZwQ_e9iGfaYH9Vwe3fH5Up0iDS1 l_Q1u6RLmItjMQIs43sl.elGwQZFJup.kATZHEuQZdYxyjXI7SPtJkPyfiA7Y08YuxiY7I406v4F F0AQ5Nb0Q_r2I9NXig9fYKvpjzhUc.2_OveYJipj5R2SvoxzzclFgEeVEyzA2sNioarAShnAmPbV iVOhngKWwxzXiWO6RDUGjWm_7F21hnshsThOHVwYSa2aYciVUGxPjGqmIf_t2lRdfK4k8HrBTuQY 8wcPEmeHUAMEE.hLhTJ.ycQbje_75xhvAxD4nTg0XJyLjWwzecsHq0e1cbf6hXor3zV.Kdh58NBt xEERJAf9ghIM8Je0nUIsklvaRG2eG_44yXPTNbmxq9jSCnKUDYhaiugwoxolm3Bj8_u4ezP2lB2_ sOXR7B88aSpP93x57DsUpV6BK3EOiSs1leQ-- Received: from jws106192.mail.bf1.yahoo.com by sendmailws151.mail.bf1.yahoo.com; Mon, 05 Sep 2016 16:08:52 +0000; 1473091732.057 Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 16:08:51 +0000 (UTC) To: "mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com" , MG List References: <510500765.387691.1473091731807.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: [Mgs] Rough Running From: Dan DiBiase via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6568531728612096886== boundary="----=_Part_387690_1087544444.1473091731805" ------=_Part_387690_1087544444.1473091731805 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi - last year, my '76B (with '75 engine and single Z-S carb) died while I was out driving and would not restart. Once back home, I managed to get it to start but it runs very rough andgenerates some light smoke - not dense clouds, and not white (like with a head gasket leak) but stinky none-the-less. I posted a video here - http://s24.photobucket.com/user/ddibiase/media/1976%20MGB%20Engine%20Work/6C2F4746-A8C6-4D19-BA08-399597F43772_zpsvgtqyk59.mp4.html That gives a sense of idle roughness, if not the light smoke... The tach is steady at idle. I've replaced spark plugs and distributor rotor, as well as cleaned the contacts in the plug leads. Just installed a new electronic fuel pump as the old one crapped out. Lines are clearand fuel filter fills nicely. Carb was rebuilt about 4 years ago and before the car died on me last year, the car ran very well. I did open it up to check the diaphragm and floats, they are fineand the carb was clean inside. Car has about gas, most from last year but with 2 gallons from today added. I did not try to drive it as the brakes need to be bled.... I've changed jobs recently and now have time to get this car back on the road and need some help as to where to start.... Thx, Dan D'76B, '65BCentral NJ USA ------=_Part_387690_1087544444.1473091731805 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi - last year, my '76B (with '75 engine and single Z-S carb)= died while I was out driving and would not restart. Once back home, I mana= ged to get it to start but it runs very rough and
generates some light smoke - not = dense clouds, and not white (like with a head gasket leak) but stinky none-= the-less. I posted a video here -


That gives a sense of idle roughne= ss, if not the light smoke... The tach is steady at idle.

I've replaced spark plu= gs and distributor rotor, as well as cleaned the contacts in the plug leads= . Just installed a new electronic fuel pump as the old one crapped out. Lin= es are clear
and fuel filter fills nicely. Carb was rebuilt about 4 years ago and b= efore the car died on me last year, the car ran very well. I did open it up= to check the diaphragm and floats, they are fine
and the carb was clean inside. Ca= r has about gas, most from last year but with 2 gallons from today added.

I did not tr= y to drive it as the brakes need to be bled....

I've changed jobs recently and now= have time to get this car back on the road and need some help as to where = to start....

Thx,
<= br>
Dan = D
'76B, = '65B
Cen= tral NJ USA
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I took a pic of the spark plugs - they seem to be a bit dark to me, consi= dering they have essentially no mileage on them -

<= br>
Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA


From: "Dan DiBiase = d_dibiase@yahoo.com [MG-MGB]" <MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com>
To: "mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com" <mg-= mgb@yahoogroups.com>; MG List <mgs@autox.team.net>
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Subject: [MG-MGB]= Rough Running

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Hi - last year, my '76B (with= '75 engine and single Z-S carb) died while I was out driving and would not= restart. Once back home, I managed to get it to start but it runs very rou= gh and
generates some light smoke - not dense clouds, and not white (l= ike with a head gasket leak) but stinky none-the-less. I posted a video her= e -


That gives a sense of idle roughness, i= f not the light smoke... The tach is steady at idle.

I'= ve replaced spark plugs and distributor rotor, as well as cleaned the conta= cts in the plug leads. Just installed a new electronic fuel pump as the old= one crapped out. Lines are clear
and fuel filter fills nicely. Carb w= as rebuilt about 4 years ago and before the car died on me last year, the c= ar ran very well. I did open it up to check the diaphragm and floats, they = are fine
and the carb was clean inside. Car has about gas, most from l= ast year but with 2 gallons from today added.

I did not try = to drive it as the brakes need to be bled....

I've chang= ed jobs recently and now have time to get this car back on the road and nee= d some help as to where to start....

Thx,

Dan= D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA


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[63.231.167.244]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u76sm10874370ita.15.2016.09.05.12.35.01 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 05 Sep 2016 12:35:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 14:35:00 -0500 References: <510500765.387691.1473091731807.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <510500765.387691.1473091731807@mail.yahoo.com> To: MG-MGB Cc: MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] Rough Running From: Paul Root via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8974463502117781892== --Apple-Mail=_FB15F506-296A-4424-A9BE-9A00A439C217 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 My first thought is that the power brake diaphragm broke and you are = sucking break fluid into the carb. Plugs look really rich. Do you have a manual choke or the automatic = water choke? That could be gummed up as well. > On Sep 5, 2016, at 11:08 AM, Dan DiBiase d_dibiase@yahoo.com [MG-MGB] = wrote: >=20 >=20 > Hi - last year, my '76B (with '75 engine and single Z-S carb) died = while I was out driving and would not restart. Once back home, I managed = to get it to start but it runs very rough and > generates some light smoke - not dense clouds, and not white (like = with a head gasket leak) but stinky none-the-less. I posted a video here = - >=20 > = http://s24.photobucket.com/user/ddibiase/media/1976%20MGB%20Engine%20Work/= 6C2F4746-A8C6-4D19-BA08-399597F43772_zpsvgtqyk59.mp4.html = >=20 > That gives a sense of idle roughness, if not the light smoke... The = tach is steady at idle.=20 >=20 > I've replaced spark plugs and distributor rotor, as well as cleaned = the contacts in the plug leads. Just installed a new electronic fuel = pump as the old one crapped out. Lines are clear > and fuel filter fills nicely. Carb was rebuilt about 4 years ago and = before the car died on me last year, the car ran very well. I did open = it up to check the diaphragm and floats, they are fine > and the carb was clean inside. Car has about gas, most from last year = but with 2 gallons from today added. >=20 > I did not try to drive it as the brakes need to be bled.... >=20 > I've changed jobs recently and now have time to get this car back on = the road and need some help as to where to start.... >=20 > Thx, >=20 > Dan D > '76B, '65B > Central NJ USA >=20 > __._,_.___ > Posted by: Dan DiBiase Reply via web post = =E2=80=A2 Reply to sender=C2=A0 = Reply to group=C2=A0 = =E2=80=A2 Start a New Topic = =E2=80=A2 = Messages in this topic = (1) > Have you tried the highest rated email app? > With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app = is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? = Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in = one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud = storage. > VISIT YOUR GROUP = > = =E2=80=A2 Privacy = =E2=80=A2 = Unsubscribe = Terms of Use > . > =20 >=20 > __,_._,___ --Apple-Mail=_FB15F506-296A-4424-A9BE-9A00A439C217 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 My first thought is that the power brake diaphragm broke and = you are sucking break fluid into the carb.

Plugs look really rich.  Do you = have a manual choke or the automatic water choke? That could be gummed = up as well.


On = Sep 5, 2016, at 11:08 AM, Dan DiBiase d_dibiase@yahoo.com = [MG-MGB] <MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Hi - last year, my '76B (with '75 engine and single = Z-S carb) died while I was out driving and would not restart. Once back = home, I managed to get it to start but it runs very rough and
generates some light smoke - = not dense clouds, and not white (like with a head gasket leak) but = stinky none-the-less. I posted a video here -


That gives a sense of idle = roughness, if not the light smoke... The tach is steady at idle. 

I've replaced spark plugs and = distributor rotor, as well as cleaned the contacts in the plug leads. = Just installed a new electronic fuel pump as the old one crapped out. = Lines are clear
and fuel filter = fills nicely. Carb was rebuilt about 4 years ago and before the car died = on me last year, the car ran very well. I did open it up to check the = diaphragm and floats, they are fine
and the carb was clean inside. = Car has about gas, most from last year but with 2 gallons from today = added.

I did not try to drive it as = the brakes need to be bled....

I've changed jobs recently and = now have time to get this car back on the road and need some help as to = where to start....

Thx,

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA

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I do have a manual = choke conversion kit I was thinking of installing. Thx, Dan From: "Paul Root ptroot@gmail.com [MG-MGB]" To: MG-MGB =20 Cc: MG List Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [MG-MGB] Rough Running =20 #yiv6616135647 #yiv6616135647 -- #yiv6616135647 .yiv6616135647ygrp-photo-ti= tle{clear:both;font-size:smaller;min-height:15px;overflow:hidden;text-align= :center;width:75px;}#yiv6616135647 div.yiv6616135647ygrp-photo{background-p= osition:center;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-color:white;border:1p= x solid black;min-height:62px;width:62px;}#yiv6616135647 div.yiv6616135647p= hoto-title a, #yiv6616135647 div.yiv6616135647photo-title a:active, #yiv661= 6135647 div.yiv6616135647photo-title a:hover, #yiv6616135647 div.yiv6616135= 647photo-title a:visited {text-decoration:none;}#yiv6616135647 div.yiv66161= 35647attach-table div.yiv6616135647attach-row {clear:both;}#yiv6616135647 d= iv.yiv6616135647attach-table div.yiv6616135647attach-row div {float:left;}#= yiv6616135647 p {clear:both;padding:15px 0 3px 0;overflow:hidden;}#yiv66161= 35647 div.yiv6616135647ygrp-file {width:30px;}#yiv6616135647 div.yiv6616135= 647attach-table div.yiv6616135647attach-row div div a {text-decoration:none= ;}#yiv6616135647 div.yiv6616135647attach-table div.yiv6616135647attach-row = div div span {font-weight:normal;}#yiv6616135647 div.yiv6616135647ygrp-file= -title {font-weight:bold;}#yiv6616135647 #yiv6616135647=20 My first thought is that the power brake diaphragm broke and you are suckin= g break fluid into the carb. Plugs look really rich. =C2=A0Do you have a manual choke or the automatic w= ater choke? That could be gummed up as well. On Sep 5, 2016, at 11:08 AM, Dan DiBiase d_dibiase@yahoo.com [MG-MGB] wrote: Hi - last year, my '76B (with '75 engine and single Z-S carb) died while I = was out driving and would not restart. Once back home, I managed to get it = to start but it runs very rough andgenerates some light smoke - not dense c= louds, and not white (like with a head gasket leak) but stinky none-the-les= s. I posted a video here - http://s24.photobucket.com/user/ddibiase/media/1976%20MGB%20Engine%20Work/6= C2F4746-A8C6-4D19-BA08-399597F43772_zpsvgtqyk59.mp4.html That gives a sense of idle roughness, if not the light smoke... The tach is= steady at idle.=C2=A0 I've replaced spark plugs and distributor rotor, as well as cleaned the con= tacts in the plug leads. Just installed a new electronic fuel pump as the o= ld one crapped out. Lines are clearand fuel filter fills nicely. Carb was r= ebuilt about 4 years ago and before the car died on me last year, the car r= an very well. I did open it up to check the diaphragm and floats, they are = fineand the carb was clean inside. Car has about gas, most from last year b= ut with 2 gallons from today added. I did not try to drive it as the brakes need to be bled.... I've changed jobs recently and now have time to get this car back on the ro= ad and need some help as to where to start.... Thx, Dan D'76B, '65BCentral NJ USA __._,_.___ Posted by: Paul Root =20 =20 Visit Your Group =20 =E2=80=A2 Privacy =E2=80=A2 Unsubscribe =E2=80=A2 Terms of Use =20 __,_._,___ =20 ------=_Part_951_1261659655.1473109221104 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Paul, the idea of brake fluid being pulled into the carb is interesting -= how would I tell?

I am running the automatic water choke on the Z-S carb. I do have a manual= choke conversion kit I was thinking of installing.

Thx, Dan


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To= : MG-MGB <MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com>
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My first thought is that the power brake diaphragm broke and you are suckin= g break fluid into the carb.

Plugs look really rich.  Do you have a m= anual choke or the automatic water choke? That could be gummed up as well.<= /div>


On Sep 5, 2016, at 1= 1:08 AM, Dan DiBiase d_dibiase@yahoo.com [MG-MGB] <MG-MGB@= yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Hi - last year, my '76B (with '75 engine and single Z-S carb= ) died while I was out driving and would not restart. Once back home, I man= aged to get it to start but it runs very rough and
generates some light smoke - not dense c= louds, and not white (like with a head gasket leak) but stinky none-the-les= s. I posted a video here -


That gives a sense of idle roughness, if not the= light smoke... The tach is steady at idle. 

I'= ve replaced spark plugs and distributor rotor, as well as cleaned the conta= cts in the plug leads. Just installed a new electronic fuel pump as the old= one crapped out. Lines are clear
and fuel filter fills nicely. Carb was rebuilt about 4 ye= ars ago and before the car died on me last year, the car ran very well. I d= id open it up to check the diaphragm and floats, they are fine
and the carb was clean insid= e. Car has about gas, most from last year but with 2 gallons from today add= ed.

I did not try to drive it as = the brakes need to be bled....

I've= changed jobs recently and now have time to get this car back on the road a= nd need some help as to where to start....

Thx,
=
Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA

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[63.231.167.244]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b78sm838138ioe.37.2016.09.05.20.04.27 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 05 Sep 2016 20:04:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 22:04:26 -0500 References: <510500765.387691.1473091731807.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <510500765.387691.1473091731807@mail.yahoo.com> <9626CDEB-884D-4EC4-8BF6-7270253399EB@gmail.com> <1135006951.952.1473109221112@mail.yahoo.com> To: MG-MGB Cc: MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] Rough Running From: Paul Root via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2925153531588191918== --Apple-Mail=_2F05B895-E778-4C47-A945-DDD19E53CF57 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 I would say you remove the hose from the carb to the brake booster.=20 > On Sep 5, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Dan DiBiase d_dibiase@yahoo.com [MG-MGB] = wrote: >=20 >=20 > Paul, the idea of brake fluid being pulled into the carb is = interesting - how would I tell?=20 >=20 > I am running the automatic water choke on the Z-S carb. I do have a = manual choke conversion kit I was thinking of installing. >=20 > Thx, Dan >=20 >=20 > Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 3:35 PM > Subject: Re: [MG-MGB] Rough Running >=20 >=20 >=20 > My first thought is that the power brake diaphragm broke and you are = sucking break fluid into the carb. >=20 > Plugs look really rich. Do you have a manual choke or the automatic = water choke? That could be gummed up as well. >=20 >=20 >> On Sep 5, 2016, at 11:08 AM, Dan DiBiase d_dibiase@yahoo.com = >>=20 >>=20 >> Hi - last year, my '76B (with '75 engine and single Z-S carb) died = while I was out driving and would not restart. Once back home, I managed = to get it to start but it runs very rough and >> generates some light smoke - not dense clouds, and not white (like = with a head gasket leak) but stinky none-the-less. I posted a video here = - >>=20 >> = http://s24.photobucket.com/user/ddibiase/media/1976%20MGB%20Engine%20Work/= 6C2F4746-A8C6-4D19-BA08-399597F43772_zpsvgtqyk59.mp4.html = >>=20 >> That gives a sense of idle roughness, if not the light smoke... The = tach is steady at idle.=20 >>=20 >> I've replaced spark plugs and distributor rotor, as well as cleaned = the contacts in the plug leads. Just installed a new electronic fuel = pump as the old one crapped out. Lines are clear >> and fuel filter fills nicely. Carb was rebuilt about 4 years ago and = before the car died on me last year, the car ran very well. I did open = it up to check the diaphragm and floats, they are fine >> and the carb was clean inside. Car has about gas, most from last year = but with 2 gallons from today added. >>=20 >> I did not try to drive it as the brakes need to be bled.... >>=20 >> I've changed jobs recently and now have time to get this car back on = the road and need some help as to where to start.... >>=20 >> Thx, >>=20 >> Dan D >> '76B, '65B >> Central NJ USA >>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > __._,_.___ > Posted by: Dan DiBiase Reply via web post = =E2=80=A2 Reply to sender=C2=A0 = ng> =E2=80=A2 Reply to group=C2=A0 = nning> =E2=80=A2 Start a New Topic = =E2=80=A2 = Messages in this topic = (10) > Have you tried the highest rated email app? > With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app = is the highest rated email app on the market. What are you waiting for? = Now you can access all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in = one place. Never delete an email again with 1000GB of free cloud = storage. > VISIT YOUR GROUP = > = =E2=80=A2 Privacy = =E2=80=A2 = Unsubscribe = Terms of Use > . > =20 >=20 > __,_._,___ --Apple-Mail=_2F05B895-E778-4C47-A945-DDD19E53CF57 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 I would say you remove the hose from the carb to the brake = booster. 


On = Sep 5, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Dan DiBiase d_dibiase@yahoo.com = [MG-MGB] <MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Paul, the idea of brake fluid being pulled into the = carb is interesting - how would I tell? 

I am running the = automatic water choke on the Z-S carb. I do have a manual choke = conversion kit I was thinking of installing.

Thx, Dan


From: "Paul Root ptroot@gmail.com [MG-MGB]" <MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com>
To: MG-MGB <MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com> 
Cc: MG List <mgs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2016 = 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: [MG-MGB] Rough = Running



My first thought is that the = power brake diaphragm broke and you are sucking break fluid into the = carb.

Plugs look really = rich.  Do you have a manual choke or the automatic water choke? = That could be gummed up as well.


On Sep 5, 2016, = at 11:08 AM, Dan DiBiase d_dibiase@yahoo.com [MG-MGB] <MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Hi - last year, my '76B (with '75 engine = and single Z-S carb) died while I was out driving and would not restart. = Once back home, I managed to get it to start but it runs very rough = and
generates some light smoke - not dense = clouds, and not white (like with a head gasket leak) but stinky = none-the-less. I posted a video here -


That gives a sense of idle roughness, if = not the light smoke... The tach is steady at idle. 

I've replaced spark plugs and distributor = rotor, as well as cleaned the contacts in the plug leads. Just installed = a new electronic fuel pump as the old one crapped out. Lines are = clear
and fuel filter fills nicely. Carb was = rebuilt about 4 years ago and before the car died on me last year, the = car ran very well. I did open it up to check the diaphragm and floats, = they are fine
and the carb was clean inside. Car has = about gas, most from last year but with 2 gallons from today = added.

I did not try to drive it as the brakes = need to be bled....

I've changed jobs recently and now have = time to get this car back on the road and need some help as to where to = start....

Thx,

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA







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I would say you remove the hose from the carb to the brake=20 booster. 

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Ok, thanks, guys, will check this tonight. = I assume that this is simply providing vacuum to the booster and should be = dry normally...?

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Yes.  It would only be wet if it is sucking = brake fluid=20 past a faulty seal in the servo.
 
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Ok, thanks, guys, will check this tonight. I assume that this is = simply=20 providing vacuum to the booster and should be dry normally...?

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I do have a manua= l > choke conversion kit I was thinking of installing. > > Thx, Dan > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* "Paul Root ptroot@gmail.com [MG-MGB]" > *To:* MG-MGB > *Cc:* MG List > *Sent:* Monday, September 5, 2016 3:35 PM > *Subject:* Re: [MG-MGB] Rough Running > > > > My first thought is that the power brake diaphragm broke and you are > sucking break fluid into the carb. > > Plugs look really rich. Do you have a manual choke or the automatic wate= r > choke? That could be gummed up as well. > > > On Sep 5, 2016, at 11:08 AM, Dan DiBiase d_dibiase@yahoo.com [MG-MGB] < > MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Hi - last year, my '76B (with '75 engine and single Z-S carb) died while = I > was out driving and would not restart. Once back home, I managed to get i= t > to start but it runs very rough and > generates some light smoke - not dense clouds, and not white (like with a > head gasket leak) but stinky none-the-less. I posted a video here - > > http://s24.photobucket.com/user/ddibiase/media/1976%20MGB%20Engine%20Work= / > 6C2F4746-A8C6-4D19-BA08-399597F43772_zpsvgtqyk59.mp4.html > > That gives a sense of idle roughness, if not the light smoke... The tach > is steady at idle. > > I've replaced spark plugs and distributor rotor, as well as cleaned the > contacts in the plug leads. Just installed a new electronic fuel pump as > the old one crapped out. Lines are clear > and fuel filter fills nicely. Carb was rebuilt about 4 years ago and > before the car died on me last year, the car ran very well. I did open it > up to check the diaphragm and floats, they are fine > and the carb was clean inside. Car has about gas, most from last year but > with 2 gallons from today added. > > I did not try to drive it as the brakes need to be bled.... > > I've changed jobs recently and now have time to get this car back on the > road and need some help as to where to start.... > > Thx, > > Dan D > '76B, '65B > Central NJ USA > > > > > > > > __._,_.___ > ------------------------------ > Posted by: Dan DiBiase > ------------------------------ > Reply via web post > > =E2=80=A2 Reply to sender > = =E2=80=A2 Reply > to group > = =E2=80=A2 Start > a New Topic > > =E2=80=A2 Messages in this topic > > (10) > ------------------------------ > > Have you tried the highest rated email app? > With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email > app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your > inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. 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...and plug the port on the carb. :-P


On Sep 6, 2016 7:= 34 AM, "Paul Root via Mgs" <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:
I would say you remov= e the hose from the carb to the brake booster.=C2=A0

On Sep 5, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Dan DiBias= e d_dibiase@yahoo.= com [MG-MGB] <MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Paul, the idea of brake fluid being pulled into the carb is inter= esting - how would I tell?=C2=A0

I am running the autom= atic water choke on the Z-S carb. I do have a manual choke conversion kit I= was thinking of installing.

Thx, Dan


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Subject:=C2=A0Re: [MG-MGB] Rough Running

My first thought is that the p= ower brake diaphragm broke and you are sucking break fluid into the carb.
Plugs look really rich.=C2=A0 = Do you have a manual choke or the automatic water choke? That could be gumm= ed up as well.


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On Se= p 5, 2016, at 11:08 AM, Dan DiBiase=C2=A0d_dibiase@yahoo.com=C2=A0[MG-MG= B] <MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com= > wrote:

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Hi - last year, my '76B (with = 9;75 engine and single Z-S carb) died while I was out driving and would not= restart. Once back home, I managed to get it to start but it runs very rou= gh and
generates some li= ght smoke - not dense clouds, and not white (like with a head gasket leak) = but stinky none-the-less. I posted a video here -

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That gives a sense of idle roughness, if = not the light smoke... The tach is steady at idle.=C2=A0

I&= #39;ve replaced spark plugs and distributor rotor, as well as cleaned the c= ontacts in the plug leads. Just installed a new electronic fuel pump as the= old one crapped out. Lines are clear
and fuel filter fills nicely. Carb was rebuilt about 4 years = ago and before the car died on me last year, the car ran very well. I did o= pen it up to check the diaphragm and floats, they are fine
and the carb was clean inside. Car has a= bout gas, most from last year but with 2 gallons from today added.

I did n= ot try to drive it as the brakes need to be bled....

I've changed jobs recently and now have time= to get this car back on the road and need some help as to where to start..= ..

Thx,

Dan D
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See if it runs better. CR On 9/5/2016 10:04 PM, Paul Root via Mgs wrote: > I would say you remove the hose from the carb to the brake booster. > > >> On Sep 5, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Dan DiBiase d_dibiase@yahoo.com >> >> >> Paul, the idea of brake fluid being pulled into the carb is >> interesting - how would I tell? >> >> I am running the automatic water choke on the Z-S carb. I do have a >> manual choke conversion kit I was thinking of installing. >> >> Thx, Dan >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *Sent:*Monday, September 5, 2016 3:35 PM >> *Subject:*Re: [MG-MGB] Rough Running >> >> >> >> My first thought is that the power brake diaphragm broke and you are >> sucking break fluid into the carb. >> >> Plugs look really rich. Do you have a manual choke or the automatic >> water choke? That could be gummed up as well. >> >> >>> On Sep 5, 2016, at 11:08 AM, Dan DiBiased_dibiase@yahoo.com >>> >>> >>> Hi - last year, my '76B (with '75 engine and single Z-S carb) died >>> while I was out driving and would not restart. Once back home, I >>> managed to get it to start but it runs very rough and >>> generates some light smoke - not dense clouds, and not white (like >>> with a head gasket leak) but stinky none-the-less. I posted a video >>> here - >>> >>> http://s24.photobucket.com/user/ddibiase/media/1976%20MGB%20Engine%20Work/6C2F4746-A8C6-4D19-BA08-399597F43772_zpsvgtqyk59.mp4.html >>> >>> That gives a sense of idle roughness, if not the light smoke... The >>> tach is steady at idle. >>> >>> I've replaced spark plugs and distributor rotor, as well as cleaned >>> the contacts in the plug leads. Just installed a new electronic fuel >>> pump as the old one crapped out. Lines are clear >>> and fuel filter fills nicely. Carb was rebuilt about 4 years ago and >>> before the car died on me last year, the car ran very well. I did >>> open it up to check the diaphragm and floats, they are fine >>> and the carb was clean inside. Car has about gas, most from last >>> year but with 2 gallons from today added. >>> >>> I did not try to drive it as the brakes need to be bled.... >>> >>> I've changed jobs recently and now have time to get this car back on >>> the road and need some help as to where to start.... >>> >>> Thx, >>> >>> Dan D >>> '76B, '65B >>> Central NJ USA >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> __._,_.___ >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Reply via web post >> >> • Reply to >> • Reply to >> • Start a New Topic >> >> • Messages in this topic >> (10) >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Have you tried the highest rated email app? >> With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated >> email app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access >> all your inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. 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Dan,

Disconnect the hose at the brake booster, plug the hose & start the engine.  See if it runs better.

CR

On 9/5/2016 10:04 PM, Paul Root via Mgs wrote:
I would say you remove the hose from the carb to the brake booster. 


On Sep 5, 2016, at 4:00 PM, Dan DiBiase d_dibiase@yahoo.com [MG-MGB] <MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Paul, the idea of brake fluid being pulled into the carb is interesting - how would I tell? 

I am running the automatic water choke on the Z-S carb. I do have a manual choke conversion kit I was thinking of installing.

Thx, Dan


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My first thought is that the power brake diaphragm broke and you are sucking break fluid into the carb.

Plugs look really rich.  Do you have a manual choke or the automatic water choke? That could be gummed up as well.


On Sep 5, 2016, at 11:08 AM, Dan DiBiase d_dibiase@yahoo.com [MG-MGB] <MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


Hi - last year, my '76B (with '75 engine and single Z-S carb) died while I was out driving and would not restart. Once back home, I managed to get it to start but it runs very rough and
generates some light smoke - not dense clouds, and not white (like with a head gasket leak) but stinky none-the-less. I posted a video here -


That gives a sense of idle roughness, if not the light smoke... The tach is steady at idle. 

I've replaced spark plugs and distributor rotor, as well as cleaned the contacts in the plug leads. Just installed a new electronic fuel pump as the old one crapped out. Lines are clear
and fuel filter fills nicely. Carb was rebuilt about 4 years ago and before the car died on me last year, the car ran very well. I did open it up to check the diaphragm and floats, they are fine
and the carb was clean inside. Car has about gas, most from last year but with 2 gallons from today added.

I did not try to drive it as the brakes need to be bled....

I've changed jobs recently and now have time to get this car back on the road and need some help as to where to start....

Thx,

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA







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You can get rough running if the brake booster diaphragm is leaking. Disconnecting and plugging the hose is a good way to test for that. If you're drawing brake fluid into the carburetter, then you should find it on the inside of the hose. If you do find fluid, the master cylinder is leaking and needs rebuilding (along with the booster).  Brake effort with the booster disconnected will be considerably higher.



On 9/6/2016 4:12 AM, Dan DiBiase via Mgs wrote:
Ok, thanks, guys, will check this tonight. I assume that this is simply providing vacuum to the booster and should be dry normally...?

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA


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And plug it!
 
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I would say you remove the hose from the carb to the brake booster. 


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Just to be clear - it appears that the line from the brake booster goes in= to a port on the intake manifold, not the carb -


It's the hose with the cross-hatch design on it.

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------=_Part_663524_2036434382.1473197576334-- --===============7417421307830250567== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============7417421307830250567==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 6 22:44:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6318925896F3 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2016 22:44:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qk0-f182.google.com (mail-qk0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6702589710 for ; Tue, 6 Sep 2016 16:43:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qk0-f182.google.com with SMTP id z190so234377438qkc.0 for ; Tue, 06 Sep 2016 15:43:42 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=lKslgQAMk25ser8Qve3kEoIPaUyEr5ac0xaxHgvh3lU=; b=dDy/71U4EIh3w/hLf6oxH7x7HDsbazXFw6KTWVzvFHFPNCYehuV/SnHDpzGrZyCv0+ HyuSwV8UknV/UwyRU2TvAwzpe+tycdphILE+GChIE2nV3xOZJ5oKGgnuFjgXRBTTek6g Uep8Zt/Mt8Nce3uRGWUsAfo9cxKqtjvY8c///o/aBg0WXj50puNtoTG8IGXcyqqgR71U fb8hlnQrpsm+fhdo6HVNRKx7NYmlqbSPFh0YlfRZIk4adZsRe+1A0yadXrdDu+C7IDaC mfl3euPuAxM+1ZE42K922IMZk8mwVJew6wpILXJMumLrK2jmw1V8UVYMzyMusINwh3Wp 9DtA== d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=lKslgQAMk25ser8Qve3kEoIPaUyEr5ac0xaxHgvh3lU=; b=JDuxa5qnmlBEbK/7rC9uHgvogxAKYPF6St6hgBXYGmPXQSc7q4k1oeAEhavqTdvtXs DjNbMGpyFcBWF+Nis4JmSEvyFLO0HrQREY8l3TRgEZN3vNf4m5qhvzFy9UZkJkrAXMe0 FYwYVYp8NL1G8AA/nWCDErYdLO8Qfwov/c0eGjW+DK7Fl7PvS1Z/H5N6+VRBK6vgf2XR JE7jFP4xF9rVyNZAoSj3CQpqPwikWrMHJ0FRsfZ5R/V4lO87gKVnBXKRobsWWN4Flstq 9QRcwfz+P6owBAYsFYy32cAr0M5XhahGJ1Gp3AXEN9ibDRbjVEkbnoejCutqXOY/6FmH +GPA== Tue, 06 Sep 2016 15:43:41 -0700 (PDT) References: <510500765.387691.1473091731807.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <510500765.387691.1473091731807@mail.yahoo.com> <9626CDEB-884D-4EC4-8BF6-7270253399EB@gmail.com> <1135006951.952.1473109221112@mail.yahoo.com> <713802655.306667.1473160356378@mail.yahoo.com> <155DA4ED2AFF4D4FB7614557738A4073@paul> <1069221924.663525.1473197576366@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2016 22:43:31 +0000 To: PaulHunt73 , "MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com" Cc: MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] Rough Running From: Paul Root via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1185813108500381648== --001a114f71da44c32a053bde87ba Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's probably correct. On Tue, Sep 6, 2016, 4:33 PM Dan DiBiase d_dibiase@yahoo.com [MG-MGB] < MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > Just to be clear - it appears that the line from the brake booster goes > into a port on the intake manifold, not the carb - > > > http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/ddibiase/1976%20MGB%20Engine%20Work= /DSCF0007.jpg > > It's the hose with the cross-hatch design on it. > > Thx, Dan > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* PaulHunt73 via Mgs > > > *To:* MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com > *Cc:* MG List > > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 6, 2016 8:17 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] Rough Running > > > Yes. It would only be wet if it is sucking brake fluid past a faulty sea= l > in the servo. > > PaulH. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > Ok, thanks, guys, will check this tonight. I assume that this is simply > providing vacuum to the booster and should be dry normally...? > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.co= m > > > __._,_.___ > ------------------------------ > Posted by: Dan DiBiase > ------------------------------ > Reply via web post > > =E2=80=A2 Reply to sender > > =E2=80=A2 Reply to group > > =E2=80=A2 Start a New Topic > > =E2=80=A2 Messages in this topic > > (25) > ------------------------------ > Have you tried the highest rated email app? > With 4.5 stars in iTunes, the Yahoo Mail app is the highest rated email > app on the market. What are you waiting for? Now you can access all your > inboxes (Gmail, Outlook, AOL and more) in one place. Never delete an emai= l > again with 1000GB of free cloud storage. > ------------------------------ > Visit Your Group > > > - New Photos > > 1 > > [image: Yahoo! Groups] > > =E2=80=A2 Privacy =E2=80=A2 > Unsubscribe = =E2=80=A2 Terms > of Use > > . > > __,_._,___ > --=20 Paul. sent from my iPad --001a114f71da44c32a053bde87ba Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That's probably correct.


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Just to be clear - it appears that the line from the brake booster= goes into a port on the intake manifold, not the carb -

It's the hose w= ith the cross-hatch design on it.

Thx, Dan


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Ok, tried removing the brake booster vacuum hose with no change.....

I removed it at the manifol= d end as it was a lot easier to get to - plugged the port there. Car ran th= e same when started, however revs increased noticeably when I removed the
plug whil= e the car was running. Still ran roughly but not quite as badly and with in= creased vigor, it seemed to me. And the hose was completely dry as far up a= s I could reach with
a swab. I then hooked it up, ran the car again, and then check= ed inside the hose again - still dry.....

I'll worry abo= ut the brake fluid loss once I get the car up and running again.... Didn't = seem like the reservoir was any lower today after running the car a bit yes= terday....

= Any thoughts on what to check next?

Thx, Dan


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From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net>
To: MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com <= br>Cc: MG List <mgs@aut= ox.team.net>
Sent: = Tuesday, September 6, 2016 8:17 AM
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Yes.  It would only be wet if it = is sucking brake fluid=20 past a faulty seal in the servo.
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Ok, thanks, guys, will check this tonight. I assume that this is sim= ply=20 providing vacuum to the booster and should be dry normally...?


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------=_Part_754595_478834349.1473207978904-- --===============7478189661454854545== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============7478189661454854545==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 7 03:07:26 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756C82589839 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2016 03:07:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-1.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-1.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6FF32589B69 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2016 01:48:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TomHP ([81.102.177.210]) by know-smtprelay-1-imp with bizsmtp id gXoc1t00N4Yl0Pl01Xodgs; Wed, 07 Sep 2016 08:48:37 +0100 a=kCw2Z0REALNdMTANZF4r8Q==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=qV0mfD4mAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=h4GZV9Cc6w8ErxH8oTAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=GwB2IDFhXM00_TV-ivsA:9 a=5HPOA3SwJ1_O740P:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=GGGinmgZRQXmVEG1E52S:22 a=mnVZ7iNJyew7AB3q5ROZ:22 a=_E8DXSXWC0jInl61zbkG:22 To: "MG Group" Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:48:45 +0100 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] Rough Running From: Tom McCay - Classic-Car-World Ltd via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============7261845330614909737== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01D208E4.A4DFECF0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01D208E4.A4DFECF0 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dan, try removing your air filters and see what happens. I had an issue = on an old mini a few months which would not run right at all. It had a = high flow K&N air filter on it which was basically blocked. The engine = was effectively running too rich due to the lack of air. The owner of the mini then confessed that he had never cleaned the = filter in the time he had the car. Some 15 years perhaps. When you removed the vacuum pipe and the engine ran better you would = have leaned out the mixture by introducing air at the manifold. Regards Tom AH 3000 BJ8 MG MGA 1600 MKI Mini Park Lane Ok, tried removing the brake booster vacuum hose with no change..... I removed it at the manifold end as it was a lot easier to get to - = plugged the port there. Car ran the same when started, however revs = increased noticeably when I removed the plug while the car was running. Still ran roughly but not quite as badly = and with increased vigor, it seemed to me. And the hose was completely = dry as far up as I could reach with a swab. I then hooked it up, ran the car again, and then checked inside = the hose again - still dry..... I'll worry about the brake fluid loss once I get the car up and running = again.... Didn't seem like the reservoir was any lower today after = running the car a bit yesterday.... Any thoughts on what to check next? Thx, Dan -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs To: MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com=20 Cc: MG List Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] Rough Running Yes. It would only be wet if it is sucking brake fluid past a faulty = seal in the servo. PaulH. ----- Original Message -----=20 Ok, thanks, guys, will check this tonight. I assume that this is simply = providing vacuum to the booster and should be dry normally...? _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01D208E4.A4DFECF0 charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dan, try removing your = air filters=20 and see what happens. I had an issue on an old mini a few months which = would not=20 run right at all. It had a high flow K&N air filter on it which was=20 basically blocked. The engine was effectively running too rich due to = the lack=20 of air.

 

The owner of the mini then confessed that he = had never=20 cleaned the filter in the time he had the car. Some 15 years=20 perhaps.

 

When you removed the vacuum pipe and the = engine ran better=20 you would have leaned out the mixture by introducing air at the=20 manifold.

 

Regards

 

Tom

AH 3000 BJ8

MG MGA 1600 MKI

Mini Park Lane

 

Ok, tried removing the = brake=20 booster vacuum hose with no change.....

 

I removed it at the = manifold end as=20 it was a lot easier to get to - plugged the port there. Car ran the same = when=20 started, however revs increased noticeably when I removed=20 the

plug while the car was = running.=20 Still ran roughly but not quite as badly and with increased vigor, it = seemed to=20 me. And the hose was completely dry as far up as I could reach=20 with

a swab. I then hooked = it up, ran=20 the car again, and then checked inside the hose again - still=20 dry.....

 

I'll worry about the = brake fluid=20 loss once I get the car up and running again.... Didn't seem like the = reservoir=20 was any lower today after running the car a bit=20 yesterday....

 

Any thoughts on what to = check=20 next?

 

Thx, = Dan

 

From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs = <mgs@autox.team.net>
To:=20 MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com =
Cc: MG=20 List <mgs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, = 2016 8:17=20 AM
Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] Rough = Running

 

Yes.  It would = only be wet if=20 it is sucking brake fluid past a faulty seal in the=20 servo.

 

PaulH.

 

----- Original Message = -----=20

Ok, thanks, guys, will check this tonight. I assume = that this is=20 simply providing vacuum to the booster and should be dry=20 normally...?

 


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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01D208E4.A4DFECF0-- --===============7261845330614909737== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============7261845330614909737==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 7 03:39:55 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98146258951F for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2016 03:39:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-1.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-1.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAFD82589B94 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2016 02:14:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from paul ([77.98.12.176]) by know-smtprelay-1-imp with bizsmtp id gYE91t00U3nu4tZ01YEAg4; Wed, 07 Sep 2016 09:14:10 +0100 a=aujsr3nizyhkvTcDIHoCrQ==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=6rh92HYl6107GkR7RfsA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=oTesHhmuiEw8NvzIhxIA:9 a=KsLmeZUH2KNOSBP-:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 To: References: <510500765.387691.1473091731807.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <510500765.387691.1473091731807@mail.yahoo.com> <9626CDEB-884D-4EC4-8BF6-7270253399EB@gmail.com> <1135006951.952.1473109221112@mail.yahoo.com> <713802655.306667.1473160356378@mail.yahoo.com> <155DA4ED2AFF4D4FB7614557738A4073@paul> <1587216496.754596.1473207978913@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 09:05:43 +0100 Cc: MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] Rough Running From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============5356011423429323657== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01D208E7.03A94C20" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01D208E7.03A94C20 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Some increase in idle would be normal as you are creating a vacuum leak = and taking a significant load off the engine at idle, so it speeds up = even though the mixture is weaker. However if your mixture is currently = very rich and that is causing the rough running, as seemed possible from = the audio on those videos you posted, then the increase could well be = partly due to compensating for the excessive richness from the carb. I = must say I was surprised it still ran at all with the servo port = unplugged (although I've never tried it), I would have expected the = vacuum leak to be so high that the engine couldn't possibly run, that's = what happens if the Welch plug blows out of the end of the inlet = manifold. I think there is a restrictor in that port though, which = perhaps make the difference. As to what to try next, until you have eliminated an over-rich mixture = as a cause given the above, I don't see how you can move on. You need a = Colortune to monitor what is happening inside the cylinders i.e. check = you have combustion in all four cylinders as well as mixture strength. PaulH. ----- Original Message -----=20 I removed it at the manifold end as it was a lot easier to get to - = plugged the port there. Car ran the same when started, however revs = increased noticeably when I removed the plug while the car was running. Still ran roughly but not quite as = badly and with increased vigor, it seemed to me. ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01D208E7.03A94C20 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Some increase in idle would be normal as you are = creating a=20 vacuum leak and taking a significant load off the engine at idle, so it = speeds=20 up even though the mixture is weaker.  However if your mixture is = currently=20 very rich and that is causing the rough running, as seemed possible from = the=20 audio on those videos you posted, then the increase could well be partly = due to=20 compensating for the excessive richness from the carb.  I must say = I was=20 surprised it still ran at all with the servo port unplugged (although = I've never=20 tried it), I would have expected the vacuum leak to be so high that the = engine=20 couldn't possibly run, that's what happens if the Welch plug blows out = of the=20 end of the inlet manifold.  I think there is a restrictor in that = port=20 though, which perhaps make the difference.
 
As to what to try next, until you have eliminated an = over-rich=20 mixture as a cause given the above, I don't see how you can move = on.  You=20 need a Colortune to monitor what is happening inside the cylinders i.e. = check=20 you have combustion in all four cylinders as well as mixture=20 strength.
 
PaulH.
 
 
----- Original Message -----

 
I removed it = at the=20 manifold end as it was a lot easier to get to - plugged the port = there. Car=20 ran the same when started, however revs increased noticeably when I = removed=20 the
plug while = the car was=20 running. Still ran roughly but not quite as badly and with increased = vigor, it=20 seemed to me.
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That's definitely correct!  The only vacuum = line on a=20 carb was for the distributor, for earlier cars.
 
There are other vacuum ports on the inlet manifold = as well for=20 various emissions components and the distributor on later = cars.
 
PaulH.
----- Original Message -----

That's probably correct.


On Tue, Sep 6, 2016, 4:33 PM Dan DiBiase d_dibiase@yahoo.com [MG-MGB] = <MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com>=20 wrote:
 =20

Just to be clear - it appears that the line from the brake = booster goes=20 into a port on the intake manifold, not the carb -

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/ddibiase/1976%20MGB= %20Engine%20Work/DSCF0007.jpg

It's the hose with the cross-hatch design on = it.

Thx,=20 Dan
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Points, CDI, other? CR _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 7 11:19:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267FA25894E9 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2016 11:19:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm29-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm29-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EF625863E5 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2016 08:51:44 -0600 (MDT) t=1473259919; bh=wjXbT5obAanass4qklOoQWYeMNts6hMSjSjR81FDpiY=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=lX4nQ9WsteyLdoVYsiNdUD1f73PGS/ebc2qJsXBU1dHPnt43mUDWszBsZ9ISPzNETjQHq8Sytr0445Mhqt1dJ2BWuhkVQa0l9QQjPzadXXoyzUShUm4oRjQSGER/yBBCuPMM2s7m4GPvUUTcyjTV9qmlUVl0Bd6rfvJ/xabZmGfC6wBKBG+bmh5QRJuWRQR2OFEE5g1rvRutU5S/v09/fGE3abP3JXIU2qUjFzWE/hR6bOI7ImNYpMmviDuLmtuFnIAhJg1pTJqspDya3Nv2SV3nk94vfy2bxVath9UqTjWeCW+BnmlpjV+NH4oXcSKLWxVYuEeA/TRwJWqbu9hbXQ== Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm29.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Sep 2016 14:51:59 -0000 Received: from [98.139.215.229] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Sep 2016 14:51:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1069.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Sep 2016 14:51:59 -0000 YLPvHnoAqOqNEMiSbvknPHolqe1111hvBwCCVuuFXFuwTJYyhzqu9E_XEQy5MWkQrau_QHZQ_xHq cnQZR73pCbGNv02EMzBQP.4MyCqwSX7l.IAC1jsMbepm_2tHtNnfFZ09TxLmSZIF39LkDZdE_cVw UYy2avH9HyUtJ7QPbPR8L.y20JVdDr4SHLXwtkjRKhVzhPKZq9LfUe_1_a6Gy8FzT0ceojjza9Ny VeGXwqvOG4X1LgYr8UTlCwUdKZYsJhZo1XaSzJKef9JwaxcRphJp4metQTtzi92IxTXHfaa_W36R dF3AT2GSPRh_Jk9ZVM0AezvNG_usKPGh5xQ5LkPXaQYvR_yBkISnVG3T9qfQ5dB3SAJnpORqPY0A GByCMEBBDaYvTX5bZwxpTC9RKaDjmZ6AEOZz95vefu8QjlTqt6qcpBc4CezuKy81lmmPVd_VuAxk AtlMVN9udCWTG9i8DJAGAk.xr2bMEGSiVLRg- Received: from jws10684.mail.bf1.yahoo.com by sendmailws118.mail.bf1.yahoo.com; Wed, 07 Sep 2016 14:51:58 +0000; 1473259918.738 Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 14:51:54 +0000 (UTC) To: "MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com" , MG List References: <510500765.387691.1473091731807.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <510500765.387691.1473091731807@mail.yahoo.com> <15a8df6b-7af9-671e-08ff-87a9c2d6e002@ktc.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] Re: Rough Running From: Dan DiBiase via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8787042289035230780== boundary="----=_Part_1083652_1124596326.1473259914844" ------=_Part_1083652_1124596326.1473259914844 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Charley, it is an electronic ignition that has been installed in the car si= nce I bought it back in 1988..... You can see the module on the inner fende= r behind the (disconnected)support arm for the bonnet... http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/ddibiase/1976%20MGB%20Engine%20Work/P= 8060009.jpg Thx, Dan From: "Charley & Peggy Robinson ccrobins@ktc.com [MG-MGB]" To: Dan DiBiase ; "mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com" ; MG List =20 Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:36 AM Subject: [MG-MGB] Re: [Mgs] Rough Running =20 What kind of ignition does the car have?=C2=A0 Points, CDI, other? CR ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MG-MGB/ <*> Your email settings: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MG-MGB/join =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (Yahoo! 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Charley, it is an electronic ignition that has been installed in the car = since I bought it back in 1988..... You can see the module on the inner fen= der behind the (disconnected)
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Thx, Dan


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What kind of igni= tion does the car have?  Points, CDI, other?

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The old one = actually had been attacked by something as it was a bit torn up....!=20 http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/ddibiase/A0E15D80-7C50-4411-830C-B0F8= 4D14D367_zpskalzqxpz.jpg Thx, Dan From: Tom McCay - Classic-Car-World Ltd via Mgs To: MG Group =20 Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 3:48 AM Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] Rough Running =20 Dan, try removing your air filters and see what happens. I had an issue on = an old mini a few months which would not run right at all. It had a high fl= ow K&N air filter on it which was basically blocked. The engine was effecti= vely running too rich due to the lack of air.=C2=A0The owner of the mini th= en confessed that he had never cleaned the filter in the time he had the ca= r. Some 15 years perhaps.=C2=A0When you removed the vacuum pipe and the eng= ine ran better you would have leaned out the mixture by introducing air at = the manifold.=C2=A0Regards=C2=A0TomAH 3000 BJ8MG MGA 1600 MKIMini Park Lane= =C2=A0Ok, tried removing the brake booster vacuum hose with no change.....= =C2=A0I removed it at the manifold end as it was a lot easier to get to - p= lugged the port there. Car ran the same when started, however revs increase= d noticeably when I removed theplug while the car was running. Still ran ro= ughly but not quite as badly and with increased vigor, it seemed to me. And= the hose was completely dry as far up as I could reach witha swab. I then = hooked it up, ran the car again, and then checked inside the hose again - s= till dry.....=C2=A0I'll worry about the brake fluid loss once I get the car= up and running again.... Didn't seem like the reservoir was any lower toda= y after running the car a bit yesterday....=C2=A0Any thoughts on what to ch= eck next?=C2=A0Thx, Dan=C2=A0From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs To: MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com=20 Cc: MG List Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] Rough Running=C2=A0Yes.=C2=A0 It would only be = wet if it is sucking brake fluid past a faulty seal in the servo.=C2=A0Paul= H.=C2=A0----- Original Message ----- Ok, thanks, guys, will check this toni= ght. I assume that this is simply providing vacuum to the booster and shoul= d be dry normally...?=C2=A0 _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase@yahoo.com =20 ------=_Part_1161896_1129002850.1473261072000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Tom, I did replace the filter element last year (OEM style)... The old on= e actually had been attacked by something as it was a bit torn up....!
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From:<= /b> Tom McCay - Classic-Car-World Ltd via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> To: MG Group <mgs@aut= ox.team.net>
Sent:= Wednesday, September 7, 2016 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] Rough Running

Dan, try removing your air filters= =20 and see what happens. I had an issue on an old mini a few months which woul= d not=20 run right at all. It had a high flow K&N air filter on it which was=20 basically blocked. The engine was effectively running too rich due to the l= ack=20 of air.
 
The owner of the mini then = confessed that he had never=20 cleaned the filter in the time he had the car. Some 15 years=20 perhaps.
 
When you removed the vacuum= pipe and the engine ran better=20 you would have leaned out the mixture by introducing air at the=20 manifold.
 
Regards
 
Tom
AH 3000 BJ8
MG MGA 1600 = MKI
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Ok, tried removing the brake=20 booster vacuum hose with no change.....
 
I removed it at the manifold end as=20 it was a lot easier to get to - plugged the port there. Car ran the same wh= en=20 started, however revs increased noticeably when I removed=20 the
plug while the car was running.=20 Still ran roughly but not quite as badly and with increased vigor, it seeme= d to=20 me. And the hose was completely dry as far up as I could reach=20 with
a swab. I then hooked it up, ran=20 the car again, and then checked inside the hose again - still=20 dry.....
 
I'll worry about the brake fluid=20 loss once I get the car up and running again.... Didn't seem like the reser= voir=20 was any lower today after running the car a bit=20 yesterday....
 
Any thoughts on what to check=20 next?
 
Thx, Dan
 
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Yes.  It would only be wet if=20 it is sucking brake fluid past a faulty seal in the=20 servo.
 
PaulH.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
Ok, thanks, guys, will = check this tonight. I assume that this is=20 simply providing vacuum to the booster and should be dry=20 normally...?
 

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I don't recall how fresh the fuel was but am going to assume = that it was mostly fresh as it wasearly in the season (Memorial Day weekend= in May) and I woud have filled it up as soon as I started driving it.. As = far as the pump pressure, it is a 2 - 3.5 PSI pump, and the same model=20 that I used successfully for the past 5 years. Taking a few days off from the car as I'm having gall bladder removed tomor= row.=20 I guess my next step is to figure out why the car seems to be running rich.= The carb should be in good shape as it was rebuilt in 2010 and I haven't t= inkered with it since, other than checking it last year for a torn diaphrag= m after this issue. I do need to check the float chamber seal as that tends= to leak after the car hasn't been run for a long time, so maybe I will rem= ove the carb and check the shaft and bushings for leaks, as someone suggest= ed. Probably won't post an update until sometime next week. I appreciate all of the suggestions so far! Dan D'76B, '65BCentral NJ USA From: "'PaulHunt73' paulhunt73@virginmedia.com [MG-MGB]" To: MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com=20 Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2016 3:25 AM Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] Rough Running =20 =EF=BB=BF=20 Fair point on the fuel, although he said the problem occurred suddenly last= year, and the pump was replaced like-for-like.=C2=A0 Excess pressure would= normally be shown up by fuel coming out of the overflow, and the pump clic= king,=C2=A0with the ignition on and the engine stopped, i.e.=C2=A0another s= imple test.=C2=A0PaulH.=C2=A0=C2=A0 ----- Original Message ----- =20 =C2=A0 No, my point was to run the car with gas that is not in the fuel = tank; ie, gas fresh from the gas station.=20 I do think that the point that was made about fuel pressure seemed to have= validity.=C2=A0 I think it would be worth getting a Harbor Freight fuel pr= essure gage and testing it.=20 =20 __._,_.___ Posted by: "PaulHunt73" =20 =20 Visit Your Group =20 - New Photos 1=20 =E2=80=A2 Privacy =E2=80=A2 Unsubscribe =E2=80=A2 Terms of Use =20 __,_._,___ =20 ------=_Part_1673145_1551354054.1473333046800 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, the car stopped running suddenly while driving, and would not restar= t at that time. I don't recall how fresh the fuel was but am going to assum= e that it was mostly fresh as it was
early in the season (Memorial Day weekend in M= ay) and I woud have filled it up as soon as I started driving it.. As far a= s the pump pressure, it is a 2 - 3.5 PSI pump, and the same model
that I used = successfully for the past 5 years.

Taking a few days off from the car as I'm having ga= ll bladder removed tomorrow.

I guess my next step is to figure out why the car se= ems to be running rich. The carb should be in good shape as it was rebuilt = in 2010 and I haven't tinkered with it since, other than checking it
<= div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1473332057487_15094" dir=3D"ltr"> last year for= a torn diaphragm after this issue. I do need to check the float chamber se= al as that tends to leak after the car hasn't been run for a long time, so = maybe I will remove the carb and check
the shaft and bushings for leaks, as someon= e suggested. Probably won't post an update until sometime next week.
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I appreciate all = of the suggestions so far!

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA


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Fair point on the fuel, although he sa= id the problem occurred=20 suddenly last year, and the pump was replaced like-for-like.  Excess= =20 pressure would normally be shown up by fuel coming out of the overflow, and= the=20 pump clicking, with the ignition on and the engine stopped,=20 i.e. another simple test.
 
PaulH.
 
 
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No, my point was to run the car with gas that is not in the fuel tan= k;=20 ie, gas fresh from the gas station.

I do think that the point that was made about fuel press= ure=20 seemed to have validity.  I think it would be worth getting a Harbor= =20 Freight fuel pressure gage and testing it.



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FWIW shaft/bushing leaks would normally cause a = vacuum leak=20 i.e. a weak mixture.
 
 
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Good gravy, Dan!  Get well soon!

CR


On 9/8/2016 6:10 AM, Dan DiBiase via Mgs wrote:

Taking a few days off from the car as I'm having gall bladder removed tomorrow.


Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA




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Fri, 9 Sep 2016 08:50:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from pacmmta56.windstream.net (pacmmta56.windstream.net [162.39.147.222]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A4072589012 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 06:57:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.254.1] ([98.20.62.173]) by pacmmta56.windstream.net with pacmmta56 id hQxk1t00d3kG8Ze01QxktH; Fri, 09 Sep 2016 08:57:45 -0400 a=IWE/ZqqJHYlNQZBA+n3PVg==:117 a=IWE/ZqqJHYlNQZBA+n3PVg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=Ov22w-J6AAAA:8 a=_RrtrUS0C6TjQiCPDDMA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=lZczMSx7N7R5tDt0k84A:9 a=eqgOc_0gGWQ2tPKn:21 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=GGGinmgZRQXmVEG1E52S:22 a=0QXW8cRB9ohhbYLUDTkp:22 Authentication-Results: pacmmta56.windstream.net ; auth=pass smtp.auth=ccrobins@ktc.com References: <20160909115959.8C3B12589123@autox.team.net> To: daybell7@aol.com, "mgs@autox.team.net" Organization: Computer Helpers Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 07:57:36 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 Subject: Re: [Mgs] LBC Valuation in Divorce From: Charley & Peggy Robinson via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============8512585715614048962== boundary="------------77506B9B270B8AE3F4A01BB0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------77506B9B270B8AE3F4A01BB0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Id tell the Ex that I'd split the cost of an appraisal with her. Perhaps the appraisal results would be a reality check for both of you. After the appraisal I'd have to make a choice between one of each running and one of each non-running. Or perhaps you could buy out her share. Do you have a place to keep them? CR On 9/9/2016 5:20 AM, daybell7--- via Mgs wrote: > Help please! > > I feel I know the fair market value for my cars - basically the price > I’d sell them for. I also have them insured for a greater value due > to the incremental way insurance is sold. Wife thinks they are made of > gold. > > I’ve owned LBCs for 35 years (not current cars) and done all work > except paint. I usually struggle through repairs but finally manage. > > I think I know the best way to find the valuation is to hire an > appraiser, but short of that, does anyone have experience or thoughts > how to handle LBC valuation in a divorce? > > I have four cars, ‘72 MGB, ‘68 BGT, ‘73 TR6, ‘59 Minor. One solution > is to pick and choose - I get two and wife gets two. > > TR6 and MGB drivable. BGT & Minor not drivable. Paint on Minor > original; all others over 10 years. Tires on all over 10 years. > > Thanks for input (even humor). > Steve Hughes > Gainesville, FL > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins@ktc.com --------------77506B9B270B8AE3F4A01BB0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Id tell the Ex that I'd split the cost of an appraisal with her.  Perhaps the appraisal results would be a reality check for both of you.  After the appraisal I'd have to make a choice between one of each running and one of each non-running.   Or perhaps you could buy out her share.  Do you have a place to keep them?

CR



On 9/9/2016 5:20 AM, daybell7--- via Mgs wrote:
Help please!

I feel I know the fair market value for my cars - basically the price I’d sell them for.  I also have them insured for a greater value due to the incremental way insurance is sold.   Wife thinks they are made of gold.

I’ve owned LBCs for 35 years (not current cars) and done all work except paint.  I usually struggle through repairs but finally manage. 

I think I know the best way to find the valuation is to hire an appraiser, but short of that, does anyone have experience or thoughts how to handle LBC valuation in a divorce?  

I have four cars, ‘72 MGB, ‘68 BGT, ‘73 TR6, ‘59 Minor.  One solution is to pick and choose -  I get two and wife gets two. 

TR6 and MGB drivable.  BGT & Minor not drivable.  Paint on Minor original; all others over 10 years.  Tires on all over 10 years. 

Thanks for input (even humor).
Steve Hughes
Gainesville, FL





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He'd probably be a lot cheaper than a professional appraiser. At least it's not a death in the family. People can get REALLY ugly about their "fair share" when that happens. Even relatives you haven't seen in 20 years. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 9 13:25:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E18D25893BF for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 13:25:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.108]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723FA258A11F for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 09:43:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Accord ([76.184.96.42]) by :SMTPAUTH: with SMTP id iNx9bLhgXQIfqiNxBbLbsa; Fri, 09 Sep 2016 08:42:58 -0700 To: References: <20160909121238.DCB882589434@autox.team.net> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 10:27:27 -0500 Importance: Normal iqkCvILtWPcJGfbv1DNhcXTW3JVDHLK1AgM= Subject: Re: [Mgs] LBC Valuation in Divorce From: dave n via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============3326398146227830284== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0055_01D20A84.C3614BA0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01D20A84.C3614BA0 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable put them on ebay with a rediculously high reserve. and see where they = end up. that won=E2=80=99t cost you anything. From: daybell7--- via Mgs=20 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 5:20 AM To: mgs@autox.team.net=20 Subject: [Mgs] LBC Valuation in Divorce Help please! I feel I know the fair market value for my cars - basically the price = I=E2=80=99d sell them for. I also have them insured for a greater value = due to the incremental way insurance is sold. Wife thinks they are = made of gold. I=E2=80=99ve owned LBCs for 35 years (not current cars) and done all = work except paint. I usually struggle through repairs but finally = manage. =20 I think I know the best way to find the valuation is to hire an = appraiser, but short of that, does anyone have experience or thoughts = how to handle LBC valuation in a divorce? =20 I have four cars, =E2=80=9872 MGB, =E2=80=9868 BGT, =E2=80=9873 TR6, = =E2=80=9859 Minor. One solution is to pick and choose - I get two and = wife gets two. =20 TR6 and MGB drivable. BGT & Minor not drivable. Paint on Minor = original; all others over 10 years. Tires on all over 10 years. =20 Thanks for input (even humor). Steve Hughes Gainesville, FL -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dave@ranteer.com ------=_NextPart_000_0055_01D20A84.C3614BA0 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
put them on ebay with a rediculously high reserve. and see where = they end=20 up.  that won=E2=80=99t cost you anything.
 
 
 
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Subject: [Mgs] LBC Valuation in Divorce
 
Help please!
 
I feel I know the fair market value for my cars - basically the = price I=E2=80=99d=20 sell them for.  I also have them insured for a greater value due to = the=20 incremental way insurance is sold.   Wife thinks they are made = of=20 gold.
 
I=E2=80=99ve owned LBCs for 35 years (not current cars) and done = all work except=20 paint.  I usually struggle through repairs but finally = manage. 
 
I think I know the best way to find the valuation is to hire an = appraiser,=20 but short of that, does anyone have experience or thoughts how to handle = LBC=20 valuation in a divorce?  
 
I have four cars, =E2=80=9872 MGB, =E2=80=9868 BGT, =E2=80=9873 = TR6, =E2=80=9859 Minor.  One solution=20 is to pick and choose -  I get two and wife gets two. 
 
TR6 and MGB drivable.  BGT & Minor not drivable.  = Paint on=20 Minor original; all others over 10 years.  Tires on all over 10=20 years. 
 
Thanks for input (even humor).
Steve Hughes
Gainesville, FL
 
 
 

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I agree with Charley.=C2=A0 What they cost to replace and wh= at they are worth on the open market is not always the same.

Go with the appraiser, get a professionally documented value= and go from there.

--
Andrew


On Sep 9, 2016 9:= 01 AM, "Charley & Peggy Robinson via Mgs" <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:
=20 =20 =20

Id tell the Ex that I'd split the cost of an appraisal with her.= =C2=A0 Perhaps the appraisal results would be a reality check for both of you.=C2=A0 After the appraisal I'd have to make a choice between = one of each running and one of each non-running.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Or perhaps you = could buy out her share.=C2=A0 Do you have a place to keep them?

CR



On 9/9/2016 5:20 AM, daybell7--- via Mgs wrote:
=20 =20
Help please!

I feel I know the fair market value for my cars - basically the price I=E2=80=99d sell them for.=C2=A0 I also have them insur= ed for a greater value due to the incremental way insurance is sold.=C2=A0= =C2=A0 Wife thinks they are made of gold.

I=E2=80=99ve owned LBCs for 35 years (not current cars) and do= ne all work except paint.=C2=A0 I usually struggle through repairs b= ut finally manage.=C2=A0

I think I know the best way to find the valuation is to hire an appraiser, but short of that, does anyone have experience or thoughts how to handle LBC valuation in a divorce?=C2=A0=C2=A0

I have four cars,=C2=A0=E2=80=9872 MGB,=C2=A0=E2=80=9868 BGT,= =C2=A0=E2=80=9873 TR6,=C2=A0=E2=80=9859 Minor.=C2=A0 One solution is to pick and choose -=C2=A0 I get two and wife get= s two.=C2=A0

TR6 and MGB drivable.=C2=A0 BGT & Minor not drivable.=C2= =A0 Paint on Minor original; all others over 10 years.=C2=A0 Tires on all over 10 years.=C2=A0

Thanks for input (even humor).
Steve Hughes
Gainesville, FL





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Using anyone EXCEPT a professional appraiser leaves you op= en to claims of "He's your buddy, so he low-balled the estimate.&q= uot;
Use a professional appraiser or sell the car.
Selling th= e car is a bit drastic, but it does establish the value.
Rick=C2= =A0

On= Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 8:14 AM, David Breneman via Mgs <= mgs@autox.team.net<= /a>> wrote:


=C2=A0From: daybell7--- via Mgs <m= gs@autox.team.net>

>

> I think I know the best way to find the valuation is to
> hire an appraiser, but short of that, does anyone have
> experience or thoughts how to handle LBC valuation in a
> divorce?=C2=A0 =C2=A0>


Can you agree on a "local expert" (ie, a professional who
works on British cars, maybe someone who's worked on yours
in the past) to appraise them?=C2=A0 He'd probably be a lot
cheaper than a professional appraiser.

At least it's not a death in the family.=C2=A0 People can get
REALLY ugly about their "fair share" when that happens.
Even relatives you haven't seen in 20 years.
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Winner keeps the coin. Loser has to take all the cars. ;-) > On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:20 AM, daybell7--- via Mgs = wrote: >=20 > Help please! >=20 > I feel I know the fair market value for my cars - basically the price = I=E2=80=99d sell them for. I also have them insured for a greater value = due to the incremental way insurance is sold. Wife thinks they are = made of gold. >=20 > I=E2=80=99ve owned LBCs for 35 years (not current cars) and done all = work except paint. I usually struggle through repairs but finally = manage. =20 >=20 > I think I know the best way to find the valuation is to hire an = appraiser, but short of that, does anyone have experience or thoughts = how to handle LBC valuation in a divorce? =20 >=20 > I have four cars, =E2=80=9872 MGB, =E2=80=9868 BGT, =E2=80=9873 TR6, = =E2=80=9859 Minor. One solution is to pick and choose - I get two and = wife gets two. =20 >=20 > TR6 and MGB drivable. BGT & Minor not drivable. Paint on Minor = original; all others over 10 years. Tires on all over 10 years. =20 >=20 > Thanks for input (even humor). > Steve Hughes > Gainesville, FL >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html = > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/rrutherf@ucalgary.ca = --Apple-Mail=_318F5999-545C-4FB1-992A-ECC405FD8783 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Flip a coin. Winner keeps the coin. Loser has to take all the = cars. ;-)
On Sep 9, 2016, at 3:20 AM, daybell7--- via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> = wrote:

Help = please!

I feel = I know the fair market value for my cars - basically the price I=E2=80=99d= sell them for.  I also have them insured for a greater value due = to the incremental way insurance is sold.   Wife thinks they = are made of gold.

I=E2=80=99ve owned LBCs for 35 years (not current cars) and = done all work except paint.  I usually struggle through repairs but = finally manage.  

I think I know the best way to find the = valuation is to hire an appraiser, but short of that, does anyone have = experience or thoughts how to handle LBC valuation in a = divorce?   

I have four cars, =E2=80=9872 = MGB, =E2=80=9868 BGT, =E2=80=9873 TR6, =E2=80=9859 = Minor.  One solution is to pick and choose -  I get two and = wife gets two.  

TR6 and MGB drivable.  BGT & = Minor not drivable.  Paint on Minor original; all others over 10 = years.  Tires on all over 10 years.  

Thanks for input (even = humor).
Steve Hughes
Gainesville, FL



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= --Apple-Mail=_318F5999-545C-4FB1-992A-ECC405FD8783-- --===============0275803843773557459== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============0275803843773557459==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 9 22:46:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 492FA2587B02 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 22:46:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from pacmmta55.windstream.net (pacmmta55.windstream.net [162.39.147.221]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5872D258825C for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 16:20:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.254.1] ([98.20.62.173]) by pacmmta55.windstream.net with pacmmta55 id haLc1t0163kG8Ze01aLcC0; Fri, 09 Sep 2016 18:20:37 -0400 a=IWE/ZqqJHYlNQZBA+n3PVg==:117 a=IWE/ZqqJHYlNQZBA+n3PVg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=WxagbiWtVY0TmVP0-xoA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=D954PRpLRSkA:10 a=AiCqPQBeZB_TBrkZV3oA:9 a=hrfZTtzZdqr8e3k9:21 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Authentication-Results: pacmmta55.windstream.net ; auth=pass smtp.auth=ccrobins@ktc.com References: <20160909121238.DCB882589434@autox.team.net> <1E1FEE8B0ABE45E39A359FDE716F97EE@Accord> To: dave n , mgs@autox.team.net Organization: Computer Helpers Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 17:20:27 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 Subject: Re: [Mgs] LBC Valuation in Divorce From: Charley & Peggy Robinson via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============6452354680004627225== boundary="------------DDA2A28E5C068172DA0C4237" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DDA2A28E5C068172DA0C4237 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Don't think that's a good idea. Puts you at the vagaries of the market. CR On 9/9/2016 10:27 AM, dave n via Mgs wrote: > put them on ebay with a rediculously high reserve. and see where they > end up. that won’t cost you anything. > --------------DDA2A28E5C068172DA0C4237 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Don't think that's a good idea.  Puts you at the vagaries of the market.

CR


On 9/9/2016 10:27 AM, dave n via Mgs wrote:
put them on ebay with a rediculously high reserve. and see where they end up.  that won’t cost you anything.
 
 
 


--------------DDA2A28E5C068172DA0C4237-- --===============6452354680004627225== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============6452354680004627225==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 9 23:19:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81376258A13B for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 23:19:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa07-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E9D2589FF7 for ; Fri, 9 Sep 2016 17:24:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Accord ([76.184.96.42]) by :SMTPAUTH: with SMTP id iVA0buvmovk4QiVA1bIKzM; Fri, 09 Sep 2016 16:24:41 -0700 To: References: <20160909121238.DCB882589434@autox.team.net> <1E1FEE8B0ABE45E39A359FDE716F97EE@Accord> <7ab4ca8c-3e25-0114-f1f2-c4b3d0d33317@ktc.com> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2016 18:24:30 -0500 Importance: Normal WaSxYLCcRrS20UsUhmk6+xHsdIQAvaxWOjI= Subject: Re: [Mgs] LBC Valuation in Divorce From: dave n via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============8819983954410701656== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01D20AC7.67F27BC0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01D20AC7.67F27BC0 charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable you will always get a lower value, and that=92s what you want here. = ebay will (ok. almost never) never overstate the value. big house = auctions are where that happens. From: Charley & Peggy Robinson=20 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 5:20 PM To: dave n ; mgs@autox.team.net=20 Subject: Re: [Mgs] LBC Valuation in Divorce Don't think that's a good idea. Puts you at the vagaries of the market. CR On 9/9/2016 10:27 AM, dave n via Mgs wrote: put them on ebay with a rediculously high reserve. and see where they = end up. that won=92t cost you anything. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01D20AC7.67F27BC0 charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Don't think that's a good idea.  Puts you at the vagaries of the = market.

CR


On 9/9/2016 10:27 AM, dave n via Mgs = wrote:
put them on ebay with a rediculously high reserve. and see where = they end=20 up.  that won=92t cost you anything.
 
 
 
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------=_NextPart_000_001E_01D20AC7.67F27BC0-- --===============8819983954410701656== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============8819983954410701656==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 10 16:37:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5DC2588961 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2016 16:37:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59AE5258939E for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2016 09:17:09 -0600 (MDT) t=1473520635; bh=oC0GoIHZpXV6hTxgZp4DeW6h9J3vJrDe/wFbMx5ApZo=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=OjI3G4lB85JRmj27zbLt+pIOMTHD8DWIU7b+6r6KkiHEa6BwckAFCngK60j4pHhYVXvXTkgwYasDIhv2z630W5RAMPOMh237BINTRKOk1ElEW5VuHaNjz7qKj7CM9RBFcd7+An18UHCca/I43lvUO+4zx/VzdZFfj5rUJcToX3kjb35tIdffWEmLFr2E8HDJWv5XR9HT7dm8xGblNIv80+LcsZD6DeplxQ8KwjOhrbwWjWaKbjg5td4J2N9chBjYB3m8hJe+enmKeDTbY5/FmX6KcjaVJyuL34/Dx8LgOhW5VphHI55AtjdG4zSxckFhQ24vNcEvaO4mwCz+6Rloeg== Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Sep 2016 15:17:15 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.208] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Sep 2016 15:17:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Sep 2016 15:17:15 -0000 FmV0.6nmztkWYcScO30vdbpdhnYZV1.S3UVIRE2yJLWFoDElfbJtM3pmz5ygOhOhXF..ea88xT0n gj0DqUD7pcWrF09VdT6Ruhs4Vn77jafI35TWqm4xpWYpnI_0nD_KLSLN5cDProstMBZDXulhNj9e sKcia8oQISUu0BKB8CtThH0voDS8D3FAVVfLuUTrbPNhFqtjL5lp._ZKmA638k6TX6n3V1gsG6tu 5Bpgf0afl1q4ftW4iXpiEPcFQDjz_IwJUrELOZzwMHmqG3E_eshkX7I5rsnsGX2JvcYArh4cLL2f 1aPjGJP3hNEKbbv4b5clLeGuoXUZWnmXkPuIN2yBcv8xBNjg5PUuGkZbxYnU9cD2OYOyisVbG9uV wNWNzxb_pUfikf5LHKzeEMy49K2XvpZYB_w8VUihHFOUr2hRElE2P9QrEyzrsk7bE2HuouwebVnG fdIOEXOOgcVMMEu97nHDdvk2sArnOiU_tcOSWZUp1gkHg4Vhy Received: from jws10648.mail.bf1.yahoo.com by sendmailws169.mail.bf1.yahoo.com; Sat, 10 Sep 2016 15:17:14 +0000; 1473520634.983 Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 15:17:10 +0000 (UTC) To: "mgs-owner@autox.team.net" , "mgs@autox.team.net" References: <20160909121238.DCB882589434@autox.team.net> <1E1FEE8B0ABE45E39A359FDE716F97EE@Accord> <7ab4ca8c-3e25-0114-f1f2-c4b3d0d33317@ktc.com> Subject: Re: [Mgs] LBC Valuation in Divorce From: David Breneman via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net From: Charley & Peggy Robinson via Mgs > Don't think that's a good idea. Puts you at > the vagaries of the market. Isn't that the point of establishing the value of something? _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 10 17:23:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EDD42588F23 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2016 17:23:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mailbackend.panix.com (mailbackend.panix.com [166.84.1.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276C22589A92 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2016 11:03:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.16.1.2] (cpe-76-178-181-36.natnow.res.rr.com [76.178.181.36]) by mailbackend.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B54E01BDCF for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2016 13:03:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 10:03:32 -0700 To: "mgs@autox.team.net List" Subject: [Mgs] horn replacement (Lucas, but not MG) From: Aaron Whiteman via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net SW4gY2xhc3NpYyBjYXJ0IGJlZm9yZSB0aGUgaG9yc2UgZmFzaGlvbiwgSeKAmXZlIG9yZGVyZWQg YSBzZXQgb2YgTHVjYXMgSG9ybnMgKEdHRTE2NC9HR0UxNjUpIHRvIHVwZ3JhZGUgdGhlIGhvcm5z IGluIG15IE1hemRhLiBPYnZpb3VzbHksIHN1Y2ggYW4gYXBwbGljYXRpb24gd2lsbCBiZSBmcm93 bmVkIHVwb24gaW4gdGhlIE1pYXRhIGNvbW11bml0eSwgYnV0IEkgcmVhbGx5IGRvbuKAmXQgY2Fy ZS4gSSBsaWtlZCB0aGUgc291bmQgb2YgTHVjYXMgaG9ybnMgaW4gbXkgTUcgYW5kIHRoZSBzdG9j ayBNWC01IGhvcm4gKGF0IGxlYXN0IGZvciAxOTk5KSBpcyBnYXJiYWdlLgoKTm93IHRoYXQgSeKA mXZlIGFscmVhZHkgb3JkZXJlZCB0aGVtIGFuZCBhbSBhbHJlYWR5IGNvbW1pdHRlZCwgaXQgc2Vl bXMgdGhlICJyaWdodCIgdGltZSB0byBhc2s6IGRvZXMgYW55Ym9keSBoYXZlIGFueSBleHBlcmll bmNlIHdpdGggbmV3IEx1Y2FzIGJyYW5kZWQgaG9ybnMgYW5kIGlmIHNvLCBob3cgZG8gdGhleSBz b3VuZD8KCi0tIApBYXJvbgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19f X19fX19fXwoKTWdzQGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0CkRvbmF0ZTogaHR0cDovL3d3dy50ZWFtLm5ldC9k b25hdGUuaHRtbApTdWdnZXN0ZWQgYW5udWFsIGRvbmF0aW9uICAkMTIuNzUKQXJjaGl2ZTogaHR0 cDovL3d3dy50ZWFtLm5ldC9hcmNoaXZlCkZvcnVtczogaHR0cDovL3d3dy50ZWFtLm5ldC9mb3J1 bXMKVW5zdWJzY3JpYmU6IGh0dHA6Ly9hdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldC9tYWlsbWFuL29wdGlvbnMvbWdz L21oYXJjQGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0Cg== From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 11 01:16:15 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2CCC25892F9 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2016 01:16:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta12.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.221]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 495432588E08 for ; Sat, 10 Sep 2016 17:23:31 -0600 (MDT) bh=h888vZGsrcnDV8UVWUfzFjy8EO8qbGe5QDJ8VnhJrjQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:To:From:Subject; b=IkuuNIiR4PEw320+6ZoT3fKKv0vxKNyWRJHsTcsU3ICLZP4y6b7d5dyd/GAPciGBT l85dS9VgnMkqiOrf3eu5qlXYzGDefkpEMf0uzD+5IjVD4o6UIwEhKD6sXzsmHpJjZA JzkZFuPn3LSI4RiN6cIUK3QmBbDKezyGeOHhyPWbNBcmIpEPVROTgdH69YSbqxnbwK f/03kFOHYyjDG/uhtChDRE+2k3TSCKlea4Md92kGXvGG1ysWeObXMxl2/8iwJn6g3/ Ku7+hMmGUmxman1GjMn0/K/XvyBJAmNK4iVhqtFj+i7fV0QvZdl8rCQAQMhgB6Oo6s fi8ZVw6mTMqdw== Authentication-Results: mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net smtp.user=strovato; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=jTihidCUsOtGAzglZBXHMA==:117 a=jTihidCUsOtGAzglZBXHMA==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=VuS0mLqZPCaVAY8ECDoA:9 a=eM3EqdYWcLT0hdbE:21 a=3Vi6OKzHfiHuHmBf:21 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Received: from [74.90.183.198] ([74.90.183.198:20336] helo=Steve-PC.optonline.net) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTPA id 92/4F-32739-40694D75; Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:23:48 -0400 Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 19:22:13 -0400 To: "mgs@autox.team.net" References: <20160909120734.6335D2588B50@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Mgs] LBC Valuation in Divorce From: Steven Trovato via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Steve, OK, I have no actual experience with this, and = limited knowledge, so of course I will throw in = my two cents anyway! It seems to me that = divorces are usually a big negotiation between = the two sides. In this case, what matters is = finding a valuation method that you both can = accept. It can be anything from looking them up = online to hiring a professional appraiser. Even = if you do that, it has to be someone you both = agree to accept. Then the negotiation will = involve what to do with the cars, given the = determined value. It could be you get two, she = gets two. Or you get them all and she gets some = other stuff of equivalent value. Or you sell = them all and split the proceeds. I would think = your lawyer would be the one advising you through all of this. Now, the other way things can go is that you both = never agree on anything and the whole thing ends = up in court. In this case, I would think the = exact valuation method is more critical, in that = it has to be accepted by the court. I would = guess that a professional appraiser would be = mandatory in this case. Again, I would think = your lawyer would be advising you. I can't imagine that any of this is particularly = unusual. Everybody has "stuff" whether it is = LBCs or motorcycles or boats or modern = vehicles. The more you can both agree to the = better off you both will be. The more you fight, = the richer the lawyers get. Also, when getting = advice on the Internet remember that there are = differences based on what state you live in. I don't know if any of this helps. I do wish you = all the best and hope you can get on with your life without too much pain. -Steve At 06:20 AM 9/9/2016, daybell7--- via Mgs wrote: >Help please! > >I feel I know the fair market value for my cars = >- basically the price I=E2=80=99d sell them for. I = >also have them insured for a greater value due = >to the incremental way insurance is sold. Wife thinks they are made of g= old. > >I=E2=80=99ve owned LBCs for 35 years (not current = >cars) and done all work except paint. I usually = >struggle through repairs but finally manage. > >I think I know the best way to find the = >valuation is to hire an appraiser, but short of = >that, does anyone have experience or thoughts = >how to handle LBC valuation in a divorce? > >I have four cars, =E2=80=9872 MGB, =E2=80=9868 BGT, =E2=80=9873 = >TR6, =E2=80=9859 Minor. One solution is to pick and = >choose - I get two and wife gets two. > >TR6 and MGB drivable. BGT & Minor not = >drivable. Paint on Minor original; all others = >over 10 years. Tires on all over 10 years. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 11 06:36:53 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52EA82588397 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2016 06:36:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from omr-a014e.mx.aol.com (omr-a014e.mx.aol.com [204.29.186.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F40E25887FC for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2016 06:04:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-maa01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-maa01.mx.aol.com [172.26.222.141]) by omr-a014e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E072E3800090 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2016 08:04:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Renna (adsl-74-179-122-227.gnv.bellsouth.net [74.179.122.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 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autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60BC92589368 for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2016 20:45:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from pacmmta54.windstream.net (pacmmta54.windstream.net [162.39.147.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C57C25891DA for ; Sun, 11 Sep 2016 17:54:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.254.1] ([98.20.62.173]) by pacmmta54.windstream.net with pacmmta54 id iPuU1t00H3kG8Ze01PuUMP; Sun, 11 Sep 2016 19:54:29 -0400 a=IWE/ZqqJHYlNQZBA+n3PVg==:117 a=IWE/ZqqJHYlNQZBA+n3PVg==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=Ov22w-J6AAAA:8 a=B-9gHoqcyV1GGIUv6jsA:9 a=F2mwNp5uF4Kvk8C9:21 a=ldQZQ2t6MzYPLFqY:21 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=tQyIWmhxI8qbJ1H8lyoA:9 a=EV_d2m0oZFA8G3Op:21 a=NPKoGMy9skxx_X4c:21 a=cmWSQnQzH3Er8oPa:21 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=GGGinmgZRQXmVEG1E52S:22 a=0QXW8cRB9ohhbYLUDTkp:22 Authentication-Results: pacmmta54.windstream.net ; auth=pass smtp.auth=ccrobins@ktc.com References: <20160911123513.571F4258939B@autox.team.net> To: daybell7@aol.com, "mgs@autox.team.net" Organization: Computer Helpers Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 18:54:28 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 Subject: Re: [Mgs] LBC Valuation in Divorce From: Charley & Peggy Robinson via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============3191865827279000430== boundary="------------1729451DF16BA59C99661FB6" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1729451DF16BA59C99661FB6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit You seem to be thinking of weaseling out. If you think in fairness, you'll get them appraised ( say, court appointed appraiser) and go from there. Quit weaseling! CR On 9/11/2016 6:27 AM, daybell7--- via Mgs wrote: > Thanks for the great input. All that is required is for her to agree > to a value. I have a lawyer, but my non-lawyer thoughts are: > > 1. > Present my estimates which are lower than the insured values > hoping she accepts the insured values. > 2. > Request the divorce be granted pending agreed valuation of the > LBCs and designate an mutually agreed upon appraiser - certified > or not. > 3. > My “Certified Appraiser” may not be acceptable to her and a brief > search revealed an appraisal cost of $300, kinda expensive. > 4. > Buy the auction (bid highest) if the Judge orders such. > 5. > Document purchase price of the car and add all restoration costs > to determine a “basis” for the cars. > 6. > Since I owned two cars (not these), argue that at least two > ane “non-marital” property and not subject to division. > 7. > Ask her to state “How much she thinks” they are worth and go from > there. > 8. > Pick and choose, two each. > 9. > Sell them myself against court orders facing the consequences, but > avoiding auction. >10. > Are there any judges out there? Can’t a man keep his LBCs? Seems > a Judge has a duty to attempt to preserve assets and property for > people in the district. I worked many hours on these cars and > kinda like them. I suppose the loss of them is part of the pain > of divorce and I could find others to fix up. > > > Sent September 9: > I feel I know the fair market value for my cars - basically the price > I’d sell them for. I also have them insured for a greater value due > to the incremental way insurance is sold. Wife thinks they are made > of gold. > > I’ve owned LBCs for 35 years (not current cars) and done all work > except paint. I usually struggle through repairs but finally manage. > > I think I know the best way to find the valuation is to hire an > appraiser, but short of that, does anyone have experience or thoughts > how to handle LBC valuation in a divorce? > > I have four cars, ‘72 MGB, ‘68 BGT, ‘73 TR6, ‘59 Minor. One solution > is to pick and choose - I get two and wife gets two. > > TR6 and MGB drivable. BGT & Minor not drivable. Paint on Minor > original; all others over 10 years. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins@ktc.com --------------1729451DF16BA59C99661FB6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

You seem to be thinking of weaseling out.  If you think in fairness, you'll  get them appraised ( say, court appointed appraiser) and go from there.  Quit weaseling!

CR


On 9/11/2016 6:27 AM, daybell7--- via Mgs wrote:
Thanks for the great input.  All that is required is for her to agree to a value.  I have a lawyer, but my non-lawyer thoughts are:
  1. Present my estimates which are lower than the insured values hoping she accepts the insured values. 
  2. Request the divorce be granted pending agreed valuation of the LBCs and designate an mutually agreed upon appraiser - certified or not.
  3. My “Certified Appraiser” may not be acceptable to her and a brief search revealed an appraisal cost of $300, kinda expensive.
  4. Buy the auction (bid highest) if the Judge orders such.
  5. Document purchase price of the car and add all restoration costs to determine a “basis” for the cars.
  6. Since I owned two cars (not these), argue that at least two ane “non-marital” property and not subject to division. 
  7. Ask her to state “How much she thinks” they are worth and go from there.
  8. Pick and choose, two each. 
  9. Sell them myself against court orders facing the consequences, but avoiding auction.
  10. Are there any judges out there?  Can’t a man keep his LBCs?  Seems a Judge has a duty to attempt to preserve assets and property for people in the district.  I worked many hours on these cars and kinda like them.  I suppose the loss of them is part of the pain of divorce and I could find others to fix up.

Sent September 9:
I feel I know the fair market value for my cars - basically the price I’d sell them for.  I also have them insured for a greater value due to the incremental way insurance is sold.   Wife thinks they are made of gold.

I’ve owned LBCs for 35 years (not current cars) and done all work except paint.  I usually struggle through repairs but finally manage. 

I think I know the best way to find the valuation is to hire an appraiser, but short of that, does anyone have experience or thoughts how to handle LBC valuation in a divorce?  

I have four cars, ‘72 MGB, ‘68 BGT, ‘73 TR6, ‘59 Minor.  One solution is to pick and choose -  I get two and wife gets two. 

TR6 and MGB drivable.  BGT & Minor not drivable.  Paint on Minor original; all others over 10 years.  



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Speeking from experince I would suggest
Agree in writing what method you each will accept and who pays
As for how to come to a value, thats why you put it in writing so no one can change their mind later.
What method you use to value is really not as important as to getting both of you to agree as how to do it, and sign it. Things can change 
in a divorce  and usually for the worst. Once its in writing its hard for the other party to argue

Ron S.
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Has PN100006-107 on it and 15112 which appears to be a serial number. + or - polarity and 12V or 6vV. Has chrome bezel and knobs. Fair condition. Dont know if it works or not. Free if you pay shipping from 23602. BMC AM radio. Dont know if it works. Has 6SMB and 1481 on case. Also 703 92. Also 15D43173A01. + or - ground option. Has black bezel on front and black plastic knobs all in good condition. 5 black push buttons all work. $50 plus shipping from 23602. Contact me offlist. 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Dan D'76 BCentral NJ USA Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Thursday, September 22, 2016, 3:26 PM, John Cahoon = wrote: i just had one of these electronic ignitions fail. Weak spark.=C2=A0=20 John Cahoon -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 9/7/16, Dan DiBiase via Mgs wrote: Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] Re:=C2=A0 Rough Running To: "MG-MGB@yahoogroups.com" , "MG List" Date: Wednesday, September 7, 2016, 9:51 AM =20 Charley, it is an electronic ignition that has been installed in the car since I bought it back in 1988..... You can see the module on the inner fender behind the (disconnected)support arm for the bonnet... http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c30/ddibiase/1976%20MGB%20Engine%20Work/= P8060009.jpg Thx, Dan =20 =20 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=20 =C2=A0 From: "Charley & Peggy Robinson ccrobins@ktc.com [MG-MGB]" =C2=A0 To: Dan DiBiase ; "mg-mgb@yahoogroups.com" ; MG List =20 =C2=A0 Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 10:36 AM =C2=A0 Subject: [MG-MGB] Re: [Mgs] Rough Running =C2=A0 =C2=A0=20 What kind of ignition does the car have?=C2=A0 Points, CDI, other? =20 CR =20 =20 =20 =20 ------------------------------------ =20 ------------------------------------ =20 =20 ------------------------------------ =20 Yahoo Groups Links =20 <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MG-MGB/ =20 <*> Your email settings: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Individual Email | Traditional =20 <*> To change settings online go to: =C2=A0 =C2=A0 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MG-MGB/join =C2=A0 =C2=A0 (Yahoo! 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John, how did you diagnose a weak spark?

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On Thursday, September= 22, 2016, 3:26 PM, John Cahoon <j_cahoon@yahoo.com> wrote:
i just had one of these electronic ignitions fai= l. Weak spark. 
John Cahoon

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On Wed, 9/7/16, Dan DiBiase via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:

Subject: Re: [Mgs] [MG-MGB] Re:  Rough Running
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Date: Wednesday, September 7,= 2016, 9:51 AM

Charley,
it is an electronic ignition that has been installed in the
car since I bought it back in 1988..... You can see the
module on the inner fender behind the
(discon= nected)support
arm for the bonnet...
= http://i24.photobucket.com/album= s/c30/ddibiase/1976%20MGB%20Engine%20Work/P8060009.jpg
Thx,
Dan


   
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September 7, 2016 10:36 AM
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[Mgs] Rough Running
   
What kind of
ignition does the car have?  Points, CDI, other?

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