Just a thought about the shim:

It might be for preventing =E2=80=9Crust= ing solid tight=E2=80=9D.

Brake fluid can cause serious scalding, i.o.w. it might cause= serious corrosion.

Having a =E2=80=9Cshim=E2=80=9D might prevent this.

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>For Paul:

The single cylinder brake mc I think i= s easier to swap w/o removing the pedal box, than the US spec tandem cylind= er, which is longer.

Cheers

Ha= ns

= ;

Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-b= ounces@autox.team.net] Namens PaulHunt73 via Mgs
Verzonden: zondag 18 november 2018 10:22
CC: Mgs@autox.team.net
Onde= rwerp: Re: [Mgs] 1973 mgb master cylinder

To be fair, and having done it both ways= with both masters at various times and for a repaint, it's MUCH easier to = get at the banjo bolts through the large plug in the firewall than it is to= remove and refit those two bolts which are higher up behind the dash.

As said getting= the lower nuts on the master cylinder is a fiddle, but again nowhere near = as bad as those two bolts. I wedged the nuts into an open-ended = spanner and stuck the washer to them with grease.

And on the subject, anyone know the = purpose of the thin shim between the single-circuit (not dual?) b= rake master and the pedal box? It surely can't be to do with ali= gnment.

Pau= lH.

----- Original= Message -----
....&n= bsp; To get to the lower attachment bolt, you have to go through a hole in = the firewall, right behind the master cylinders. It is covered with a= rubber "plug", and is not easy to get to...
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Shims of different thicknesses have been used to adjust p= ushrod depth and length.

Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
typos and artifacts= are the fault of my phone

On Mon, Nov 19, 2018, 11:40 AM Hans Duinhoven via Mgs <= mgs@autox.team.net wrote:

Just a thoug= ht about the shim:
It might be for preventing =E2=80=9Crustin= g solid tight=E2=80=9D.
Brake fluid can cause serious scaldi= ng, i.o.w. it might cause serious corrosion.
Having a =E2=80= =9Cshim=E2=80=9D might prevent this.
=C2=A0
For= Paul:
The single cylinder brake mc I think is easier to swap= w/o removing the pedal box, than the US spec tandem cylinder, which is lon= ger.
=C2=A0
Cheers
Hans=
=C2=A0
Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@au= tox.team.net] Namens PaulHunt73 via Mgs
Verzonden: zon= dag 18 november 2018 10:22
CC: Mgs@autox.team.net
Onder= werp: Re: [Mgs] 1973 mgb master cylinder
=
=C2=A0
To be fair, and having done it=C2=A0= both ways with both masters at various times and for a repaint, it's MU= CH easier to get at the banjo bolts through the large plug in the firewall = than it is to remove and refit those two bolts which are higher up behind t= he dash.
=C2=A0
As said getting the lower nuts on the master cylinder is a fiddle, = but again nowhere near as bad as those two bolts.=C2=A0=C2=A0I wedged the n= uts into an open-ended spanner and stuck the washer to them with grease.
=C2=A0
And= on the subject, anyone know the purpose of the thin shim between the=C2=A0= single-circuit (not dual?)=C2=A0brake=C2=A0master and the pedal box?=C2=A0 = It surely can't be to do with alignment.
=
=C2=A0
PaulH.
=
----- Original Me= ssage -----
....= =C2=A0 To get to the lower attachment bolt, you have to go through a hole i= n the firewall, right behind the master cylinders.=C2=A0 It is covered with= a rubber "plug", and is not easy to get to...
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I am new to MGs but not British cars. I have read posts t= hat seem to indicate that bleeding the brakes on my 67B is not as straight = forwatd as say my big Healey. So could someone provide directions of the pr= oceedure? I would start with cyl farthest away and work my way to the front= .
Thanks

Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
typos and artifacts are the fault of= my phone
--000000000000f65134057b0e9778-- --===============4666925609502765027== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============4666925609502765027==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 20 01:51:47 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128202587E58 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 01:51:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-4.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-4.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94822587CC5 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 01:40:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from paul ([92.239.15.247]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id P1aKgYDByDxWaP1aKgqoqP; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 08:40:40 +0000 a=ibFpEyFn6mAKt5BSRHG3fg==:17 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=Suu9pAvZI7leDQnZhc0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=pLcXCiFJiezLQNTYAPEA:9 a=6IP1lesdSjTS08S7:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 s=meg.feb2017; t=1542703240; bh=HzNl4MJ7R9hEXpRmmiKUTGyWoO/QsE6tN2i5MofT+I4=; h=From:To:References:Subject:Date; b=WON/AyN/yzbMZjrsAE74EqsaCtIYS5dGzFvjm8mccKjOaM5tD+j5OV2uQyMWmGpsE X4WIf/BTDCeB9+Ugl7HdtgDkGNdqgo1/48FBcoxe90FL0XE7MMcsqZbU5PCEquuM9p HYpp3q/mzcQsCq5MmgBNi7O3nwDjrhBn3T/juLapbz1Eh55cl7lZpr4AmVsNt9ZLmt aCUFdNpwwso2d4cpnbQlDXcxXhp1ev6rNbhJ6u3n+eZYHLEe7Fe7+Y1K+lGGRMeRIi eE8XicSWGrN72MA9VdlLDMMG2XHNOBq+qkgkXtf1xJrpfmIgNc+PnOKPeMeFkW+x7Q yqlOThJ6rwbAQ== To: "i erbs" , "mglist" References: Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 08:37:28 -0000 mJIl54jYeG4Sq9Cfc4xIO8yJMv7t/kPZr3viBl5KEBk21hzvsxuWH75VW47YqPxLC4Lj2AV8i2/GJg== Subject: Re: [Mgs] Brake bleeding From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1537115289581488795== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002A_01D480AC.457E1C90" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01D480AC.457E1C90 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Longest run to shortest is correct, with the handbrake released to = minimise the cavity in the wheel cylinders. I've always used an = EeziBled - at no more than 15psi - to initially fill and bleed both = clutch and brake systems, but that has always left the brake pedal long = and soft. It pumps up with a couple of quick strokes, then after a = couple of seconds goes long and soft again - i.e. still some air in. = The second step is for someone to press down very hard on the pedal, = then I rapidly open and close a caliper nipple, first one side then the = other. That always blasts more air out and after that it is fine. The = front of the car needs to be slightly higher than the rear. But if just replacing fluid on an otherwise working system then an = EeziBleed and opening each nipple in turn until the fluid runs clear = should be all that is needed. PaulH. ----- Original Message -----=20 I am new to MGs but not British cars. I have read posts that seem to = indicate that bleeding the brakes on my 67B is not as straight forwatd = as say my big Healey. So could someone provide directions of the = proceedure? I would start with cyl farthest away and work my way to the = front. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01D480AC.457E1C90 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Longest run to shortest is correct, with the = handbrake=20 released to minimise the cavity in the wheel cylinders. I've = always used=20 an EeziBled - at no more than 15psi - to initially fill and bleed both = clutch=20 and brake systems, but that has always left the brake pedal long and = soft. =20 It pumps up with a couple of quick strokes, then after a couple of = seconds goes=20 long and soft again - i.e. still some air in. The second step is = for=20 someone to press down very hard on the pedal, then I rapidly open and=20 close a caliper nipple, first one side then the other. That = always=20 blasts more air out and after that it is fine. The front of the = car needs=20 to be slightly higher than the rear.

But if just replacing fluid on an otherwise working = system=20 then an EeziBleed and opening each nipple in turn until the fluid runs = clear=20 should be all that is needed.

PaulH.

----- Original Message -----

I am new to MGs but not British cars. I have read posts that seem = to=20 indicate that bleeding the brakes on my 67B is not as straight forwatd = as say=20 my big Healey. So could someone provide directions of the proceedure? = I would=20 start with cyl farthest away and work my way to the front.

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This is nothing to do with the pushrod, = it's between the=20 master and the pedal box. As the pushrod should always come back = to the=20 circlip, and the pedal is free to come back even further when not = attached to=20 the pushrod, all this shim does is vary the position of the brake pedal = footpad=20 fractionally.

It's also only on the brake master according to the = Parts=20 Catalogue, and only on the single-circuit at that, so I can't see it = being=20 anything to do with fluid leaks.

PaulH.

----- Original Message -----

Shims of different thicknesses have been used to = adjust pushrod=20 depth and length.

------=_NextPart_000_0011_01D480AA.B8B8C720-- --===============0727086092124179853== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============0727086092124179853==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 20 07:04:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1958A25844ED for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 07:04:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ed1-f53.google.com (mail-ed1-f53.google.com [209.85.208.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF032587E54 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 06:53:58 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ed1-f53.google.com with SMTP id b3so2009523ede.1 for ; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 05:53:58 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=AgA4F88jmWarE0g4HVlz0L9bBmhoGRPQr4RLFbxB6RE=; b=I6JDLFeJffPIC+AOw/7yNMVuiliEBn+N4ztgvkVtdLcbl3Rv+LHXiD5GqdEfmkIPsS aqYD4qBMvE4oWU8bfIcVDLtrAUzbgPWdqRJM3TVsyFyTk4rdI5x9mm/lpOw5ASFpdqeB 4l0J2yTJ4iVQzpLMZJoVNs+Hzl2aCx40kOQ6cNaHKxraOQhWPT/lWzH532haEtkwW58H bx7rAvmrl5d5f10UAi4O1pghwKvpNTNszD9GBNI6n6R3+mLQiFut4C9vIubca9/0i2fC ZigrD6gqlwYZ0aCob4LKRSuOOZNv4X1Pa8A1Vq47z0SzVagH7gdBsZtAxivPenIL0Rie BfoA== d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=AgA4F88jmWarE0g4HVlz0L9bBmhoGRPQr4RLFbxB6RE=; b=qqMC6mn7hwP7UiIM1WavFHgnRqUug8yKHg+SYxX/1tOGRwnvSHaOUIZPOXvhyOItjk nVFcedh/UFcAW8ObgFiGgNCF0K3B6JoSRGqK6HtdNS93Ipd9NTy2b+vDbAmn49F914Z3 +1nKBnyFsXHS9/jOTKffxpMw9bcI01MgCpoGRIC1EP+/kkmBWQhY2sNv3XVp7CruYiRW f3y2l5QThA7gnEUiz0GY/QGv6C3SKCdhrM2jQzuCwTkXKArJfslAD0Mqnidp+K5r7eZh DZH+BCkgEN6fyKW651e6X9WCR5hdDiI1ommYh5fp+aYp6/fqh8RPBjBBYOXvjsRXHxy3 nBKA== 0gfMYoDrbLB8zcQcCk/VNYl/DxGLjuXIGRnMDvc= k1-v6mr2327350edc.296.1542722037358; Tue, 20 Nov 2018 05:53:57 -0800 (PST) References: <1553452C91674E48A1F6CCB63E5974EF@paul> Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2018 05:53:45 -0800 To: PaulHunt73 Cc: mglist Subject: Re: [Mgs] Brake bleeding From: i erbs via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0367149715784976138== --0000000000000626e8057b18f79e Thanks to all who have replied Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Tue, Nov 20, 2018, 12:40 AM PaulHunt73 Longest run to shortest is correct, with the handbrake released to > minimise the cavity in the wheel cylinders. I've always used an EeziBled - > at no more than 15psi - to initially fill and bleed both clutch and brake > systems, but that has always left the brake pedal long and soft. It pumps > up with a couple of quick strokes, then after a couple of seconds goes long > and soft again - i.e. still some air in. The second step is for someone to > press down very hard on the pedal, then I rapidly open and close a caliper > nipple, first one side then the other. That always blasts more air out and > after that it is fine. The front of the car needs to be slightly higher > than the rear. > > But if just replacing fluid on an otherwise working system then an > EeziBleed and opening each nipple in turn until the fluid runs clear should > be all that is needed. > > PaulH. > > ----- Original Message ----- > I am new to MGs but not British cars. I have read posts that seem to > indicate that bleeding the brakes on my 67B is not as straight forwatd as > say my big Healey. So could someone provide directions of the proceedure? I > would start with cyl farthest away and work my way to the front. > > > --0000000000000626e8057b18f79e Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks to all who have replied

Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
typos and artifacts are th= e fault of my phone

On Tue, Nov 20, 2018, 12:40 AM PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com wrote:

Longest run to shortest is correct, with the handbrak= e=20 released to minimise the cavity in the wheel cylinders.=C2=A0 I've alwa= ys used=20 an EeziBled - at no more than 15psi - to initially fill and bleed both clut= ch=20 and brake systems, but that has always left the brake pedal long and soft.= =C2=A0=20 It pumps up with a couple of quick strokes, then after a couple of seconds = goes=20 long and soft again - i.e. still some air in.=C2=A0 The second step is for= =20 someone to press down very hard on the pedal, then I rapidly open and=20 close=C2=A0a caliper nipple, first one side then the other.=C2=A0 That alwa= ys=20 blasts more air out and after that it is fine.=C2=A0 The front of the car n= eeds=20 to be slightly higher than the rear.

=C2=A0

But if just replacing fluid on an otherwise working s= ystem=20 then an EeziBleed and opening each nipple in turn until the fluid runs clea= r=20 should be all that is needed.

=C2=A0

PaulH.

----- Original Message -----

I am new to MGs but not British cars. I have read posts that seem to= =20 indicate that bleeding the brakes on my 67B is not as straight forwatd as= say=20 my big Healey. So could someone provide directions of the proceedure? I w= ould=20 start with cyl farthest away and work my way to the front.

=C2=A0

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