This may help http://www.= mgb-stuff.org.uk/propshafttext.htm#length

----- Original Message -----

Also, can anyone give us the over-all length of the overdrive and = non-overdrive gearboxes?

I am looking for a quote on having an OD transmission ship= ped from NY, USA to UT, USA.

I haven't had anything = freight shipped in years.=C2=A0 Does anyone have a favorite?=C2=A0 I pick-u= p/drop-off at a terminal shouldn't be a problem.

Thanks!

On Nov 5, 2019, at 1:43 PM, Jim Ray via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:

I am looking for a set of chrome wiper blades and arm that = will fit a 1980 MGB. Would also like to find a front valance to use in a ru= bber bumper to chrome bumper conversion.

Thanks in advance for your reply.

Jim

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Is there a way to determine the build=C2=A0month/year for = an O/D transmission?

It is a blue tag with the S/N 22/62= 005=C2=A0 04682

I know it is post 74 since it is b= lue, but don't know more=C2=A0about it.

Thanks= !

Andrew

I missed a digit in the serial number.=C2=A0 22/62005 0468= 21

Is there a way to determine = the build=C2=A0month/year for an O/D transmission?

It is= a blue tag with the S/N 22/62005=C2=A0 04682

I kn= ow it is post 74 since it is blue, but don't know more=C2=A0about it.

Thanks!

Andre= w

I = missed a digit in the serial number. 22/62005 = 046821

On = Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 2:53 PM Andrew Lundgren <lundgren@byu.net> = wrote:

Is = there a way to determine the build month/year for an O/D = transmission?

It is a blue tag with the S/N 22/62005 = 04682

I = know it is post 74 since it is blue, but don't know more about = it.

Thanks!

--
Andrew

Van:<= /b> = PaulHunt73 [mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com]
Verzonden: = zaterdag 9 november 2019 10:55
Aan: Hans = Duinhoven
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D = transmission?

No info on gearbox or OD dating in either my = Clausager book or Heritage certificates. You might get the = info from Overdrive Repair Services in Sheffield who are ex-Laycock = people, failing that I suspect trawling through the Heritage archive = yourself would be the only other = option.

----- = Original Message -----

See https://www.britishmotormuseum.co.uk/archive/access-the-archive-r= ecords

If you don't ask you don't get :o)

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Hans Duinhoven = <h.duinhoven@planet.nl> =
To:=20 'PaulHunt73' <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com= >=20
Cc: mgs@autox.team.net =
Date:=20 09 November 2019 at 10:20
Subject: RE: [Mgs] Determine build date = for an=20 O/D transmission?

Van: = PaulHunt73=20 [mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com]
Verzonden: = zaterdag=20 9 november 2019 10:55
Aan: Hans=20 Duinhoven
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Determine build = date for=20 an O/D transmission?

No info on=20 gearbox or OD dating in either my Clausager book or Heritage=20 certificates. You might get the info from Overdrive Repair = Services in=20 Sheffield who are ex-Laycock people, failing that I suspect trawling = through=20 the Heritage archive yourself would be the only other=20 option.

----- = Original=20 Message -----

Van:<= /b> = Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens PaulHunt73 via = Mgs
Verzonden: zaterdag 9 november 2019 13:21
Aan: = Hans Duinhoven
CC: mgs@autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: = [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D = transmission?

If you don't ask you = don't get :o)

---------- Original Message ---------- =
From: Hans Duinhoven <h.duinhoven@planet.nl> =
To: 'PaulHunt73' <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com= >
Cc: mgs@autox.team.net
Date: 09 = November 2019 at 10:20
Subject: RE: [Mgs] Determine build date for = an O/D transmission?

=E2=80=9Ctrawling through the Heritage = archive yourself=E2=80=9D

I = wonder if they let you.

During = our visit these guys were quite strict what was allowed and not. =

DIY in the archives is not likely to happen I = think.

Cheers, =

Hans

Van:<= /strong> PaulHunt73 = [mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com]
Verzonden: = zaterdag 9 november 2019 10:55
Aan: Hans = Duinhoven
Onderwerp: = Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission? =

No info = on gearbox or OD dating in either my Clausager book or Heritage = certificates. You might get the info from Overdrive Repair = Services in Sheffield who are ex-Laycock people, failing that I suspect = trawling through the Heritage archive yourself would be the only other = option.

PaulH.

----- = Original Message -----

This site may be useful for this kind of information. =
https://www.britishmotormuseum.co.uk/archive/heritage-certificates=
After completion of the restauration of my MG BGT in 2000, I ordered = the BMIHT Heritage Certificate.
The kind of details you are looking for are likely in the register. =
Perhaps another source could by the Clausager book Original MGB: =
https://www.amazon.com/Original-MGB-Restorers-Roadster-1962-= 80/dp/1906133182 =

Not so much. It will be a a bit still until the transmiss= ion arrives. (Freight from NY to UT) I'm just trying to figure out whic= h shifter it should have had as well as which gears it should work on.=C2= =A0=C2=A0

I'm going to be = putting it into a 78, but the current owner is still trying to track down t= he shifter from his friend, the previous owner. He doesn't know if it w= as a late shifter or an early one.

I'm trying to determine how to wire it in.

Andrew

On = Sun, Nov 10, 2019, 4:33 PM Osborne, Paul via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:

I have been repair/ rebuilding Laycock trans for some time and have not bee= n able to come up with any info on date build, if there is any. I have aske= d these that have been doing it a lot longer than I and have been told if t= here is they do not know.=C2=A0 Oh well, then again does it matter?=C2=A0

paul

On Nov 10, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Hans Duinhoven via Mgs <mgs@autox.tea= m.net> wrote:

Looks to be a fair policy.=C2=A0=

But I was a bit disappointed, that I was not allowed= to make a picture of the GT=E2=80=99s entry in the BMIHT register with my = simple camera.

All these entries car by car hand written into this = book.=C2=A0

And very easy to read. This book looked to me as a p= iece of art.

=C2=A0

Cheers,

Hans

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Van:= =C2= =A0Mgs [mai= lto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net]=C2=A0Namens=C2=A0= PaulHunt73 via Mgs
Verzonden:=C2=A0zaterdag 9 november 2019 13:21
Aan:=C2=A0Hans Duinhoven
CC:=C2=A0mgs@autox.team.net
Onderwerp:=C2=A0Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O= /D transmission?

=C2=A0

See=C2=A0https://www.briti= shmotormuseum.co.uk/archive/access-the-archive-records=

=C2=A0

If you don't ask you don't get :o)

---------- Original Message ----------=C2=A0
From: Hans Duinhoven <h.duinhoven@planet.nl>=C2=A0
To: 'PaulHunt73' <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com>=C2=A0
Cc:=C2=A0mgs@= autox.team.net=C2=A0
Date: 09 November 2019 at 10:20=C2=A0
Subject: RE: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission?=C2= =A0

=E2=80=9Ctrawling through the Heritage archi= ve yourself=E2=80=9D=C2=A0

I wonder if they let you.=C2=A0=

During our visit these guys were quite stric= t what was allowed and not.=C2=A0

DIY in the archives is not likely to happen = I think.=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0

Cheers,=C2=A0<= /u>

Hans

=C2=A0=C2=A0

Van:= =C2=A0PaulHunt73 [mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com]=C2=A0
Verzonden:=C2=A0zaterdag 9 november 2019 10:55
Aan:<= span>=C2=A0Hans Duinhoven
Onderwerp:=C2=A0Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmiss= ion?=C2=A0

=C2=A0

No info on gearbox or OD dating in either my= Clausager book=C2=A0or Heritage certificates.=C2=A0 You might get the info= from Overdrive Repair Services in Sheffield who are ex-Laycock people, fai= ling that I suspect trawling through the Heritage archive yourself would be the only other option.

=C2=A0

PaulH.

----- Original = Message -----=C2=A0

=C2=A0

This site may be useful for this kind of information.=C2=A0

https://www.britishmotormuseum.co.uk/archive/heritage-certificates

After completion of the restauration of my MG BGT in 2000, I ordere= d the BMIHT Heritage Certificate.=C2=A0
The kind of details you are looking for are likely in the register.= =C2=A0

Perhaps another source could by the Clausager book Original MGB:=C2=A0

https://www.amazon.com/Original-MGB-Restorers-Roadste= r-1962-80/dp/1906133182

=C2=A0

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He = doesn't know if it was a late shifter or an early one. >=20 > I'm trying to determine how to wire it in. >=20 > -- > Andrew >=20 > On Sun, Nov 10, 2019, 4:33 PM Osborne, Paul via Mgs = > I have been repair/ rebuilding Laycock trans for some time and have = not been able to come up with any info on date build, if there is any. I = have asked these that have been doing it a lot longer than I and have = been told if there is they do not know. Oh well, then again does it = matter?=20 >=20 >=20 > paul >=20 >> On Nov 10, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Hans Duinhoven via Mgs = >>=20 >> Looks to be a fair policy.=20 >> But I was a bit disappointed, that I was not allowed to make a = picture of the GT=E2=80=99s entry in the BMIHT register with my simple = camera. >> All these entries car by car hand written into this book.=20 >> And very easy to read. This book looked to me as a piece of art. >> =20 >> Cheers, >> Hans >> =20 >> =20 >> Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net = >> Verzonden: zaterdag 9 november 2019 13:21 >> Aan: Hans Duinhoven >> Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission? >> =20 >> See = https://www.britishmotormuseum.co.uk/archive/access-the-archive-records = >> =20 >> If you don't ask you don't get :o) >>> ---------- Original Message ----------=20 >>> From: Hans Duinhoven >> To: 'PaulHunt73' >> Date: 09 November 2019 at 10:20=20 >>> Subject: RE: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission?=20 >>>=20 >>>> =E2=80=9Ctrawling through the Heritage archive yourself=E2=80=9D=20 >>>>=20 >>>> I wonder if they let you.=20 >>>>=20 >>>> During our visit these guys were quite strict what was allowed and = not.=20 >>>>=20 >>>> DIY in the archives is not likely to happen I think.=20 >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>> Cheers,=20 >>>>=20 >>>> Hans >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>> Van: PaulHunt73 [mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com = >>>> Verzonden: zaterdag 9 november 2019 10:55 >>>> Aan: Hans Duinhoven >>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission?=20= >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>> No info on gearbox or OD dating in either my Clausager book or = Heritage certificates. You might get the info from Overdrive Repair = Services in Sheffield who are ex-Laycock people, failing that I suspect = trawling through the Heritage archive yourself would be the only other = option. >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>>> PaulH. >>>>=20 >>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> =20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> This site may be useful for this kind of information.=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> https://www.britishmotormuseum.co.uk/archive/heritage-certificates = >>>>> After completion of the restauration of my MG BGT in 2000, I = ordered the BMIHT Heritage Certificate.=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> The kind of details you are looking for are likely in the = register.=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Perhaps another source could by the Clausager book Original MGB:=20= >>>>>=20 >>>>> = https://www.amazon.com/Original-MGB-Restorers-Roadster-1962-80/dp/19061331= 82 = >>> =20 >>>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >>=20 >> Donate: = https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__www.team.net_donate.= html&d=3DDwICAg&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK0-= rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3DhjUS2GMSWoKP4QYJgS6d4uPka2vblibL= hoU6AZUfABE&s=3DQiqKn0fpLSGy_IpXIPh4k1brENTBW_xmfSjEq5ngJLU&e=3D = =20 >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>=20 >> Archive: = https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__www.team.net_piperma= il_mgs&d=3DDwICAg&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK= 0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3DhjUS2GMSWoKP4QYJgS6d4uPka2vbli= bLhoU6AZUfABE&s=3DrJD1Y7tge2qnyFJcrNwA0MQ3LBxpQ8K72EITTONX4Pw&e=3D = = https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__autox.team.net_archi= ve&d=3DDwICAg&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK0-rt= rtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3DhjUS2GMSWoKP4QYJgS6d4uPka2vblibLho= U6AZUfABE&s=3DVKplZ4FI3arFpge-e5_n_7HFGM4qQjn92Ce9XxpS9ds&e=3D = =20 >>=20 >> Unsubscribe: = https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__autox.team.net_mailm= an_options_mgs_paul-40ece.rochester.edu&d=3DDwICAg&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQ= h5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m= =3DhjUS2GMSWoKP4QYJgS6d4uPka2vblibLhoU6AZUfABE&s=3Dsb0GoKNU8SWW9Y8mT1czhJ_= 4lURtmB_9gqhltshG_QQ&e=3D = =20 >=20 >> Paul Osborne >> Department of Electrical and Computer Eng >> University of Rochester=20 >> 201 Hopeman Building RC >> Rochester NY 14627 > 585-275-5226 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html = > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs = http://autox.team.net/archive = >=20 > Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/lundgren@byu.net = > _______________________________________________ >=20 > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs = http://autox.team.net/archive >=20 > Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim@sonic.net --Apple-Mail=_513A3AB6-567D-4062-BD8E-3610D7FF762D Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 If it=E2=80=99s a blue label it=E2=80=99s a late one. No?

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On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:43 PM, Andrew Lundgren via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> = wrote:

Not so much. It will be a a bit still until the = transmission arrives. (Freight from NY to UT) I'm just trying to figure = out which shifter it should have had as well as which gears it should = work on.

I'm going to be putting it into a 78, but the = current owner is still trying to track down the shifter from his friend, = the previous owner. He doesn't know if it was a late shifter or an early = one.

I'm trying to determine how to wire it = in.

--
Andrew

On Sun, Nov = 10, 2019, 4:33 PM Osborne, Paul via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> = wrote:

I have been repair/ rebuilding Laycock trans for some time and have not = been able to come up with any info on date build, if there is any. I = have asked these that have been doing it a lot longer than I and have = been told if there is they do not know. Oh well, then again does it matter?

paul

On Nov 10, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Hans Duinhoven via Mgs = <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:

Looks to be a fair policy.

But I was a bit disappointed, that I was not allowed to = make a picture of the GT=E2=80=99s entry in the BMIHT register with my = simple camera.

All these entries car by car hand written into this = book.

And very easy to read. This book looked to me as a piece = of art.

Cheers,

Hans

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Verzonden: zaterdag 9 = november 2019 13:21
Aan: Hans Duinhoven
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Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] = Determine build date for an O/D transmission?

See https://www.britishmotormuseum.co.uk/archive/access-the-archive= -records

If you don't ask you don't get = :o)

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From: Hans Duinhoven <h.duinhoven@planet.nl>
To: 'PaulHunt73' <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com>
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Date: 09 November 2019 at 10:20
Subject: RE: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission?

=E2=80=9Ctrawling through the = Heritage archive yourself=E2=80=9D
I wonder if they let you.
During our visit these guys = were quite strict what was allowed and not.
DIY in the archives is not = likely to happen I think.

Cheers,
Hans


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Verzonden: zaterdag 9 november 2019 10:55
Aan: Hans = Duinhoven
Onderwerp: Re: = [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission?

No info on gearbox or OD = dating in either my Clausager book or Heritage certificates. = You might get the info from Overdrive Repair Services in Sheffield who = are ex-Laycock people, failing that I suspect trawling through the Heritage archive yourself would be the only other option.

PaulH.

----- Original Message -----

This site may be useful for this kind of information.
https://www.britishmotormuseum.co.uk/archive/heritage-certifica= tes
After completion of the restauration of my MG BGT in 2000, = I ordered the BMIHT Heritage Certificate.
The kind of details you are looking for are likely in the = register.
Perhaps another source could by the Clausager book = Original MGB:
https://www.amazon.com/Original-MGB-Restorers-Roadster-1962-80/= dp/1906133182

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None of that is to do with the OD = itself.

Which gears it operated on is a function of the = linkages on=20 top of the gearbox, and you can have it on 3 and 4 or 4 only as you = wish. =20 When the TCSA was introduced in late 76 to control 'surging' a = third=20 switch was added to the top of the gearbox that operated in 2nd and 4th, = and=20 this was wired in series with the OD switch operating in 3rd and 4th to = produce=20 a 4th gear only output controlling the TCSA and vacuum advance. I = suspect=20 that was not very reliable as it was an external micro-switch so it was = deleted=20 and the gearbox components changed so the switch operated in 4th=20 only, as done to the V8 several years previously. The = gearbox=20 switch now controlled both OD and TCSA.

The gear lever itself changed for the 77 model = year to=20 incorporate the OD manual switch, but that can also be fitted to = any year,=20 or the 77 converted back to some other switch, as you wish.

The wiring prior to 77 was from the manual switch on = the dash=20 or the column, to the gearbox switch on a yellow and a yellow red, then = from=20 there to the solenoid. For 77 on it was from the ignition supply = on a=20 white to the gearbox switch, then from there to the manual switch on the = gear=20 lever, and from there to the solenoid.

Black label or blue label determines which speedo is = compatible - black label was used on CB cars and used a 1280tpm = speedo. =20 Blue label was used on RB cars and used a 1000tpm speedo. But = speedos can=20 be recalibrated if you end up with the wrong = combination.

So as a 78 it should have a blue label OD and the = manual=20 switch on the gear lever, as the column switch - which together with the = plastic=20 dash was new for the 77 model year - won't have that = function. =20 But if the car has the earlier RB dash and column switches you = don't need=20 the gear lever switch, which is prone to shorting out and causing = harness=20 damage.

----- Original Message -----

Not so much. It will be a a bit still until the = transmission=20 arrives. (Freight from NY to UT) I'm just trying to figure out which = shifter=20 it should have had as well as which gears it should work = on.

I'm going to be putting it into a 78, but the current = owner is=20 still trying to track down the shifter from his friend, the previous = owner. He=20 doesn't know if it was a late shifter or an early one.

I'm trying to determine how to wire it=20 in.

I have a '78. The transmission is a blue label, but t= he seller doesn't have the shift lever.

A lever for a '78 is not a cheap thing, and my son who is= driving it a lot right now likes the Walnut MG logo shifter it has.=C2=A0 = So I'm looking at options for how to install the O/D switch.=C2=A0

From the moss catalog, it lo= oks like the '76 switch won't work with the '78. So I might hav= e to buy the parts to put together the shifter switch or put it in the blan= k accessory switch above the fan on the dash.=C2=A0=C2=A0

None of that is=C2=A0to do with the OD itself.=

=C2=A0

Which gears it operated on is a function of the linka= ges on=20 top of the gearbox, and you can have it on 3 and 4 or 4 only as you wish.= =C2=A0=20 When the TCSA=C2=A0was introduced in late 76 to control 'surging'= =C2=A0a third=20 switch was added to the top of the gearbox that operated in 2nd and 4th, an= d=20 this was wired in series with the OD switch operating in 3rd and 4th to pro= duce=20 a 4th gear only output controlling the TCSA and vacuum advance.=C2=A0 I sus= pect=20 that was not very reliable as it was an external micro-switch so it was del= eted=20 and the gearbox components changed so the switch operated=C2=A0in 4th=20 only,=C2=A0as done to the V8=C2=A0several years previously.=C2=A0 The gearb= ox=20 switch now controlled both OD and TCSA.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

The gear=C2=A0lever itself changed for the 77 model y= ear to=20 incorporate the OD manual switch,=C2=A0but that can also be fitted to any y= ear,=20 or the 77 converted back to some other switch, as you wish.

=C2=A0

The wiring prior to 77 was from the manual switch on = the dash=20 or the column, to the gearbox switch on a yellow and a yellow red, then fro= m=20 there to the solenoid.=C2=A0 For 77 on it was from the ignition supply on a= =20 white to the gearbox switch, then from there to the manual switch on the ge= ar=20 lever, and from there to the solenoid.

=C2=A0

Black label or blue label determines which speedo is= =20 compatible - black label was used on CB cars and used a 1280tpm speedo.=C2= =A0=20 Blue label was used on RB cars and used a 1000tpm speedo.=C2=A0 But speedos= can=20 be recalibrated if you end up with the wrong combination.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

So as a 78 it should have a blue label OD and the man= ual=20 switch on the gear lever, as the column switch - which together with the pl= astic=20 dash was new for the 77 model year -=C2=A0won't have that function.=C2= =A0=20 But=C2=A0if the car has the earlier RB dash and column switches you don'= ;t need=20 the gear lever switch, which is prone to shorting out and causing harness= =20 damage.

=C2=A0

PaulH.

=C2=A0

----- Original Message -----

Not so much. It will be a a bit still until the transmi= ssion=20 arrives. (Freight from NY to UT) I'm just trying to figure out which = shifter=20 it should have had as well as which gears it should work on.=C2=A0=C2=A0

I'm going to be putting it into a 78, but the curre= nt owner is=20 still trying to track down the shifter from his friend, the previous owne= r. He=20 doesn't know if it was a late shifter or an early one.

I'm trying to determine how to wire it=20 in.

The 78 has a different lever and hold-down = ring as well=20 as the knob with the switch, so you have to build up a complete = lever, or=20 find one somewhere. =C2=A340 in the UK, $150 in the = US!

Option 2 is easier, but less = convenient.

----- Original Message -----

A lever for a '78 is not a cheap thing, and my son who is driving = it a=20 lot right now likes the Walnut MG logo shifter it has. So I'm = looking at=20 options for how to install the O/D switch.

From the moss catalog, it looks like the '76 switch = won't work=20 with the '78. So I might have to buy the parts to put together the = shifter=20 switch or put it in the blank accessory switch above the fan on the=20 dash.

Bummer. Good to=C2=A0know though.=C2=A0 Maybe I can get a = level shipped from the UK!!

The 78 has a different lever and hold-down ring=C2=A0= as well=20 as the knob with the switch, so=C2=A0you have to build up a complete lever,= or=20 find one somewhere.=C2=A0 =C2=A340 in the UK, $150 in the US!

=C2=A0

Option 2 is easier, but less convenient.

=C2=A0

PaulH.

----- Original Message -----

A lever for a '78 is not a cheap thing, and my son who is drivin= g it a=20 lot right now likes the Walnut MG logo shifter it has.=C2=A0 So I'm l= ooking at=20 options for how to install the O/D switch.=C2=A0

From the moss catalog, it looks like the '76 switch= won't work=20 with the '78. So I might have to buy the parts to put together the sh= ifter=20 switch or put it in the blank accessory switch above the fan on the=20 dash.=C2=A0=C2=A0

=C2=A0

One of three these people have for sale, and they do = ship to=20 the USA:

https://tinyurl.com/vadrr82

This one is in better condition:

https://tinyurl.com/vqoaawh

I've dealt with them a few times for used = parts.

----- Original Message -----

Bummer. Good to know though. Maybe I can get = a level=20 shipped from the UK!!

Incidentally, if you do fit the correct lever with = switch I'd=20 strongly advise fitting an in-line fuse where the white from the gearbox = harness=20 joins the whites from the inertia switch and to the fuel pump in = the rear=20 harness. The wiring down the lever has been known to chafe and = short out,=20 damaging wiring.

----- Original Message -----

Bummer. Good to know though. Maybe I can get = a level=20 shipped from the UK!!

I have a '78. The transmission is a blue label, but the seller doesn't have the shift lever.

A lever for a '78 is not a cheap thing, and my son who is driving it a lot right now likes the Walnut MG logo shifter it has. So I'm looking at options for how to install the O/D switch.

From the moss catalog, it looks like the '76 switch won't work with the '78. So I might have to buy the parts to put together the shifter switch or put it in the blank accessory switch above the fan on the dash.

None of that is to do with the OD itself.

Which gears it operated on is a function of the linkages on top of the gearbox, and you can have it on 3 and 4 or 4 only as you wish. When the TCSA was introduced in late 76 to control 'surging' a third switch was added to the top of the gearbox that operated in 2nd and 4th, and this was wired in series with the OD switch operating in 3rd and 4th to produce a 4th gear only output controlling the TCSA and vacuum advance. I suspect that was not very reliable as it was an external micro-switch so it was deleted and the gearbox components changed so the switch operated in 4th only, as done to the V8 several years previously. The gearbox switch now controlled both OD and TCSA.

The gear lever itself changed for the 77 model year to incorporate the OD manual switch, but that can also be fitted to any year, or the 77 converted back to some other switch, as you wish.

The wiring prior to 77 was from the manual switch on the dash or the column, to the gearbox switch on a yellow and a yellow red, then from there to the solenoid. For 77 on it was from the ignition supply on a white to the gearbox switch, then from there to the manual switch on the gear lever, and from there to the solenoid.

Black label or blue label determines which speedo is compatible - black label was used on CB cars and used a 1280tpm speedo. Blue label was used on RB cars and used a 1000tpm speedo. But speedos can be recalibrated if you end up with the wrong combination.

So as a 78 it should have a blue label OD and the manual switch on the gear lever, as the column switch - which together with the plastic dash was new for the 77 model year - won't have that function. But if the car has the earlier RB dash and column switches you don't need the gear lever switch, which is prone to shorting out and causing harness damage.

PaulH.

----- Original Message -----

Not so much. It will be a a bit still until the transmission arrives. (Freight from NY to UT) I'm just trying to figure out which shifter it should have had as well as which gears it should work on.

I'm going to be putting it into a 78, but the current owner is still trying to track down the shifter from his friend, the previous owner. He doesn't know if it was a late shifter or an early one.

I'm trying to determine how to wire it in.

I have a '78. The transmission is a blue label, but the seller doesn't have the shift lever.

A lever for a '78 is not a cheap thing, and my son who is driving it a lot right now likes the Walnut MG logo shifter it has.=C2=A0 So I'm looking at options for how t= o install the O/D switch.=C2=A0

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 1:45 AM PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com> wrote:

None of that is=C2=A0to do with the OD itself.

=C2=A0

Which gears it operated on is a function of the linkages on top of the gearbox, and you can have it on 3 and 4 or 4 only as you wish.=C2=A0 When the TCSA=C2=A0was introduced in late 76 to control 'surging'=C2=A0a third switch was added to the top of th= e gearbox that operated in 2nd and 4th, and this was wired in series with the OD switch operating in 3rd and 4th to produce a 4th gear only output controlling the TCSA and vacuum advance.=C2=A0 I suspect that was no= t very reliable as it was an external micro-switch so it was deleted and the gearbox components changed so the switch operated=C2=A0in 4th only,=C2=A0as done to the V8= =C2=A0several years previously.=C2=A0 The gearbox switch now controlle= d both OD and TCSA.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

The gear=C2=A0lever itself changed for= the 77 model year to incorporate the OD manual switch,=C2=A0= but that can also be fitted to any year, or the 77 converted back to some other switch, as you wish.=

=C2=A0

The wiring prior to 77 was from the manual switch on the dash or the column, to the gearbox switch on a yellow and a yellow red, then from there to the solenoid.=C2=A0 For 77 on it was from the ignition supply on a white to the gearbox switch, then from there to the manual switch on the gear lever, and from there to the solenoid.

=C2=A0

Black label or blue label determines which speedo is compatible - black label was used on CB cars and used a 1280tpm speedo.=C2=A0 Blue label was used on RB cars and used a 1000tpm speedo.=C2=A0 But speedos can be recalibrated if you end up with the wrong combination.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

So as a 78 it should have a blue label OD and the manual switch on the gear lever, as the column switch - which together with the plastic dash was new for the 77 model year -=C2=A0won't have that function.=C2=A0 But=C2=A0if the car has the earlier RB d= ash and column switches you don't need the gear lever switch, which is prone to shorting out and causing harness damage.

=C2=A0

PaulH.

=C2=A0

----- Original Message -----

Not so much. It will be a a bit still until the transmission arrives. (Freight from NY to UT) I'm just trying to figure out which shifter it should have had as well as which gears it should work on.=C2=A0=C2=A0

I'm going to be putting it into a 78, but the current owner is still trying to track down the shifter from his friend, the previous owner. He doesn't know if it was a late shifter or an early one.

I'm trying to determine how to wire it in.

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On Nov 11, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Charley Robinson via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> = wrote:
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I've swapped OD gearboxes into two CBBs. In both cases I used = the gear levers from the original non-OD transmissions. I don't = see any reason that you can't use the gear lever you already have for the OD box.

As to the OD switch, I'd put it on the dash if I had an open spot for it that was handy to my right hand. In the CB cars the = wiring and switch are already installed but there's no reason you can't find the white circuit that Paul mentioned and run a wire from it to your switch and from the switch to the lockout switch on the OD box. Looks like there are a couple of switches in the Moss = catalog that would look OK on the dash. The switch is just a SPST that = can handle the solenoid current.

My $ .02,

CR

On 11/11/2019 7:35 AM, Andrew = Lundgren via Mgs wrote:
I have a '78. The transmission is a = blue label, but the seller doesn't have the shift lever.

A lever for a '78 is not a cheap = thing, and my son who is driving it a lot right now likes the Walnut MG logo shifter it has. So I'm looking at options for how to = install the O/D switch.

=46rom the moss catalog, it looks = like the '76 switch won't work with the '78. So I might have to buy the parts to put together the shifter switch or put it in the blank accessory switch above the fan on the = dash.

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 1:45 = AM PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com> wrote:

None of that = is to do with the OD itself.

Which gears it = operated on is a function of the linkages on top of the gearbox, and you can have it on 3 and 4 or 4 only as you wish. When the = TCSA was introduced in late 76 to control 'surging' a third switch was added to the top of the gearbox that operated in 2nd and 4th, and this was wired in series with the OD switch operating in 3rd and 4th to produce a 4th gear only output controlling the TCSA and vacuum = advance. I suspect that was not very reliable as it was an external micro-switch so it was deleted and the gearbox components changed so the switch operated in 4th only, as done to the V8 several years = previously. The gearbox switch now controlled both OD and TCSA. =

The = gear lever itself changed for the 77 model year to incorporate the OD manual switch, but = that can also be fitted to any year, or the 77 converted back to some other switch, as you wish.

The wiring prior = to 77 was from the manual switch on the dash or the column, to the gearbox switch on a yellow and a yellow red, then from there to the solenoid. For 77 on it was from the ignition = supply on a white to the gearbox switch, then from there to the manual switch on the gear lever, and from there to the solenoid.

Black label or = blue label determines which speedo is compatible - black label was used on CB cars and used a 1280tpm speedo. Blue label was = used on RB cars and used a 1000tpm speedo. But speedos can = be recalibrated if you end up with the wrong = combination.

So as a 78 it = should have a blue label OD and the manual switch on the gear lever, as the column switch - which together with the plastic dash was new for the 77 model year - won't have that = function. But if the car has the earlier RB dash and column switches you don't need the gear lever switch, which is prone to shorting out and causing harness = damage.

PaulH.

----- Original = Message -----

Not so much. It will be a a = bit still until the transmission arrives. (Freight from NY to UT) I'm just trying to figure out which shifter it should have had as well as which gears it should work = on.

I'm going to be putting it = into a 78, but the current owner is still trying to track down the shifter from his friend, the previous owner. He doesn't know if it was a late shifter or an early = one.

I'm trying to determine how = to wire it in.
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You might not think the dash switch is as convenient as the gear lever switch, but it is really pretty ergonomic. You can flick it with the side of your hand while it is still in contact with the wheel — you don't have to go groping for it.

Max Heim

'66 MGB

On Nov 11, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Charley Robinson via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:
I've swapped OD gearboxes into two CBBs. In both cases I used the gear levers from the original non-OD transmissions. I don't see any reason that you can't use the gear lever you already have for the OD box.

As to the OD switch, I'd put it on the dash if I had an open spot for it that was handy to my right hand. In the CB cars the wiring and switch are already installed but there's no reason you can't find the white circuit that Paul mentioned and run a wire from it to your switch and from the switch to the lockout switch on the OD box. Looks like there are a couple of switches in the Moss catalog that would look OK on the dash. The switch is just a SPST that can handle the solenoid current.

My $ .02,

CR

On 11/11/2019 7:35 AM, Andrew Lundgren via Mgs wrote:
I have a '78. The transmission is a blue label, but the seller doesn't have the shift lever.

A lever for a '78 is not a cheap thing, and my son who is driving it a lot right now likes the Walnut MG logo shifter it has. So I'm looking at options for how to install the O/D switch.

From the moss catalog, it looks like the '76 switch won't work with the '78. So I might have to buy the parts to put together the shifter switch or put it in the blank accessory switch above the fan on the dash.

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 1:45 AM PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com> wrote:

None of that is to do with the OD itself.

Which gears it operated on is a function of the linkages on top of the gearbox, and you can have it on 3 and 4 or 4 only as you wish. When the TCSA was introduced in late 76 to control 'surging' a third switch was added to the top of the gearbox that operated in 2nd and 4th, and this was wired in series with the OD switch operating in 3rd and 4th to produce a 4th gear only output controlling the TCSA and vacuum advance. I suspect that was not very reliable as it was an external micro-switch so it was deleted and the gearbox components changed so the switch operated in 4th only, as done to the V8 several years previously. The gearbox switch now controlled both OD and TCSA.

The gear lever itself changed for the 77 model year to incorporate the OD manual switch, but that can also be fitted to any year, or the 77 converted back to some other switch, as you wish.

The wiring prior to 77 was from the manual switch on the dash or the column, to the gearbox switch on a yellow and a yellow red, then from there to the solenoid. For 77 on it was from the ignition supply on a white to the gearbox switch, then from there to the manual switch on the gear lever, and from there to the solenoid.

Black label or blue label determines which speedo is compatible - black label was used on CB cars and used a 1280tpm speedo. Blue label was used on RB cars and used a 1000tpm speedo. But speedos can be recalibrated if you end up with the wrong combination.

So as a 78 it should have a blue label OD and the manual switch on the gear lever, as the column switch - which together with the plastic dash was new for the 77 model year - won't have that function. But if the car has the earlier RB dash and column switches you don't need the gear lever switch, which is prone to shorting out and causing harness damage.

PaulH.

----- Original Message -----

Not so much. It will be a a bit still until the transmission arrives. (Freight from NY to UT) I'm just trying to figure out which shifter it should have had as well as which gears it should work on.

I'm going to be putting it into a 78, but the current owner is still trying to track down the shifter from his friend, the previous owner. He doesn't know if it was a late shifter or an early one.

I'm trying to determine how to wire it in.
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On Nov 11, 2019, at 9:32 AM, Max Heim via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> = wrote:
Exactly. I = have a 1977 vintage blue label OD transmission in my 66. I have a = dash-mounted switch to the left of the steering column. The wiring = couldn=E2=80=99t be simpler. No weird expensive parts. The straight (as = opposed to crookneck) dash OD switch is cheap.

You might not think the dash switch is = as convenient as the gear lever switch, but it is really pretty = ergonomic. You can flick it with the side of your hand while it is still = in contact with the wheel =E2=80=94 you don't have to go groping for = it.
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On Nov 11, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Charley Robinson via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> = wrote:
=20 =20
I've swapped OD gearboxes into two CBBs. In both cases I used = the gear levers from the original non-OD transmissions. I don't = see any reason that you can't use the gear lever you already have for the OD box.

As to the OD switch, I'd put it on the dash if I had an open spot for it that was handy to my right hand. In the CB cars the = wiring and switch are already installed but there's no reason you can't find the white circuit that Paul mentioned and run a wire from it to your switch and from the switch to the lockout switch on the OD box. Looks like there are a couple of switches in the Moss = catalog that would look OK on the dash. The switch is just a SPST that = can handle the solenoid current.

My $ .02,

CR

On 11/11/2019 7:35 AM, Andrew = Lundgren via Mgs wrote:
I have a '78. The transmission is a = blue label, but the seller doesn't have the shift lever.

A lever for a '78 is not a cheap = thing, and my son who is driving it a lot right now likes the Walnut MG logo shifter it has. So I'm looking at options for how to = install the O/D switch.

=46rom the moss catalog, it looks = like the '76 switch won't work with the '78. So I might have to buy the parts to put together the shifter switch or put it in the blank accessory switch above the fan on the = dash.

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 1:45 = AM PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com> wrote:

None of that = is to do with the OD itself.

Which gears it = operated on is a function of the linkages on top of the gearbox, and you can have it on 3 and 4 or 4 only as you wish. When the = TCSA was introduced in late 76 to control 'surging' a third switch was added to the top of the gearbox that operated in 2nd and 4th, and this was wired in series with the OD switch operating in 3rd and 4th to produce a 4th gear only output controlling the TCSA and vacuum = advance. I suspect that was not very reliable as it was an external micro-switch so it was deleted and the gearbox components changed so the switch operated in 4th only, as done to the V8 several years = previously. The gearbox switch now controlled both OD and TCSA. =

The = gear lever itself changed for the 77 model year to incorporate the OD manual switch, but = that can also be fitted to any year, or the 77 converted back to some other switch, as you wish.

The wiring prior = to 77 was from the manual switch on the dash or the column, to the gearbox switch on a yellow and a yellow red, then from there to the solenoid. For 77 on it was from the ignition = supply on a white to the gearbox switch, then from there to the manual switch on the gear lever, and from there to the solenoid.

Black label or = blue label determines which speedo is compatible - black label was used on CB cars and used a 1280tpm speedo. Blue label was = used on RB cars and used a 1000tpm speedo. But speedos can = be recalibrated if you end up with the wrong = combination.

So as a 78 it = should have a blue label OD and the manual switch on the gear lever, as the column switch - which together with the plastic dash was new for the 77 model year - won't have that = function. But if the car has the earlier RB dash and column switches you don't need the gear lever switch, which is prone to shorting out and causing harness = damage.

PaulH.

----- Original = Message -----

Not so much. It will be a a = bit still until the transmission arrives. (Freight from NY to UT) I'm just trying to figure out which shifter it should have had as well as which gears it should work = on.

I'm going to be putting it = into a 78, but the current owner is still trying to track down the shifter from his friend, the previous owner. He doesn't know if it was a late shifter or an early = one.

I'm trying to determine how = to wire it in.
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The '78 dash has an "Accessory=C2=A0Switch" = that can be added.=C2=A0 I have a factory blanking plate over that switch r= ight now. If I go with the dash switch, that is where it will go. I would l= ike a light as well, but I prefer=C2=A0the correct look.=C2=A0

I will probably pull the lever off of my non-O/D and use it, at leas= t initially.=C2=A0 I will need to run the wires. If the wiring wasn't a= lready a mess on this car from the PO, I would be more concerned about it b= eing correct and using the shifter switch

(That an= d it is a CBB '78, so I am not that concerned apparently)

Andrew

<= div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 12:06 PM Max H= eim via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:

It just occurred to me that this may= not be as easy on a later car. A metal-dash car already has the hole in th= e dash for the toggle switch. There is probably not a handy hole in the 78 = dash, and the =E2=80=9Cvintage-style=E2=80=9D chrome-bezel toggle switch wo= uld look out of place.

For a while I had a Radio Shack = =E2=80=9Cglowing blue=E2=80=9D toggle switch installed (to remind me to swi= tch off the OD), which might look more in keeping with the plastic dash. I = was a little dubious about it handling the load, but it held up fine. The s= olenoid doesn=E2=80=99t draw much. I don=E2=80=99t really think there is an= y reason to run a relay, or the vacuum switch =E2=80=94 a simple ON/OFF in = series with the lock-out switch on the transmission works fine.
<= br>
I don=E2=80=99t understand how a momentary push button switch= (Bert=E2=80=99s suggestion) would even work...
--
Max Heim
= 9;66 MGB
On Nov 11, 2019, at 9:32 AM, Max He= im via Mgs <mgs@= autox.team.net> wrote:
Exactly. I have a 1977 vintage blue label OD transmission in my = 66. I have a dash-mounted switch to the left of the steering column. The wi= ring couldn=E2=80=99t be simpler. No weird expensive parts. The straight (a= s opposed to crookneck) dash OD switch is cheap.

You mig= ht not think the dash switch is as convenient as the gear lever switch, but= it is really pretty ergonomic. You can flick it with the side of your hand= while it is still in contact with the wheel =E2=80=94 you don't have t= o go groping for it.
--
Max Heim
'66 MGB
On Nov 11, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Charle= y Robinson via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
I've swapped OD gearboxes into two CBBs.=C2=A0 In both cases I used= the gear levers from the original non-OD transmissions.=C2=A0 I don't s= ee any reason that you can't use the gear lever you already have for the O= D box.=C2=A0

As to the OD switch, I'd put it on the dash if I had an open spot for it that was handy to my right hand.=C2=A0 In the CB cars the wiring and switch are already installed but there's no reason you can'= t find the white circuit that Paul mentioned and run a wire from it to your switch and from the switch to the lockout switch on the OD box.=C2=A0 Looks like there are a couple of switches in the Moss catalo= g that would look OK on the dash.=C2=A0 The switch is just a SPST that ca= n handle the solenoid current.

My $ .02,

CR

On 11/11/2019 7:35 AM, Andrew Lundgren via Mgs wrote:
=20
I have a '78. The transmission is a blue label, but the seller doesn't have the shift lever.

A lever for a '78 is not a cheap thing, and m= y son who is driving it a lot right now likes the Walnut MG logo shifter it has.=C2=A0 So I'm looking at options for how to in= stall the O/D switch.=C2=A0

From the moss catalog, it looks like the '76 switch won't work with the '78. So I might have to buy th= e parts to put together the shifter switch or put it in the blank accessory switch above the fan on the dash.=C2=A0=C2=A0

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 1:45 AM PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com> wrote:

None of that is=C2=A0to do with the OD itself.

=C2=A0

Which gears it operated on is a function of the linkages on top of the gearbox, and you can have it on 3 and 4 or 4 only as you wish.=C2=A0 When the TCSA=C2= =A0was introduced in late 76 to control 'surging'=C2=A0a t= hird switch was added to the top of the gearbox that operated in 2nd and 4th, and this was wired in series with the OD switch operating in 3rd and 4th to produce a 4th gear only output controlling the TCSA and vacuum advance.=C2=A0 = I suspect that was not very reliable as it was an external micro-switch so it was deleted and the gearbox components changed so the switch operated=C2=A0in 4th only,=C2=A0as done to the V8=C2=A0several years previously.= =C2=A0 The gearbox switch now controlled both OD and TCSA.=C2=A0

=C2=A0

The gear=C2=A0lever itself changed for th= e 77 model year to incorporate the OD manual switch,=C2=A0but th= at can also be fitted to any year, or the 77 converted back to some other switch, as you wish.

=C2=A0

The wiring prior to 77 was from the manual switch on the dash or the column, to the gearbox switch on a yellow and a yellow red, then from there to the solenoid.=C2=A0 For 77 on it was from the ignition supp= ly on a white to the gearbox switch, then from there to the manual switch on the gear lever, and from there to the solenoid.

=C2=A0

Black label or blue label determines which speedo is compatible - black label was used on CB cars and used a 1280tpm speedo.=C2=A0 Blue label was used o= n RB cars and used a 1000tpm speedo.=C2=A0 But speedos can be recalibrated if you end up with the wrong combination.=C2= =A0

=C2=A0

So as a 78 it should have a blue label OD and the manual switch on the gear lever, as the column switch - which together with the plastic dash was new for the 77 model year -=C2=A0won't have that functi= on.=C2=A0 But=C2=A0if the car has the earlier RB dash and column switches you don't need the gear lever switch, which is prone to shorting out and causing harness damage.
=C2=A0

PaulH.

=C2=A0

----- Original Message -----

Not so much. It will be a a bit still until the transmission arrives. (Freight from NY to UT) I'm just trying to figure out which shifter it should have had as well as which gears it should work on.=C2=A0=C2= =A0

I'm going to be putting it into a 78, but the current owner is still trying to track down the shifter from his friend, the previous owner. He doesn't know if it was a late shifter or an early one= .

I'm trying to determine how to wire i= t in.

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From: Robert's New iPad via Mgs Cc: MG List Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1025679044020845420== boundary=Apple-Mail-8316DAC0-DAC6-4D29-8345-943B1EEEB65C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-8316DAC0-DAC6-4D29-8345-943B1EEEB65C charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The indicator light is handy, I think, to avoid that unanticipated shift i= nto OD during acceleration when one forgets to shut off the OD. I used a =E2=80=9Cgrain of wheat=E2=80=9D 12v lightbulb in short piece of= brass tubing, this assembly pushed into the small gap between the fascia pa= nel and the steering column plastic housing. Wired to the hot lead from the s= witch, it shows whenever the switch would activate the OD, or OD would activ= ate itself. An LED would be even better, but this was done 20 years ago. Bob =20 > On Nov 11, 2019, at 2:44 PM, Andrew Lundgren via Mgs w= rote: >=20 > The '78 dash has an "Accessory Switch" that can be added. I have a factor= y blanking plate over that switch right now. If I go with the dash switch, t= hat is where it will go. I would like a light as well, but I prefer the corr= ect look.=20 >=20 > I will probably pull the lever off of my non-O/D and use it, at least init= ially. I will need to run the wires. If the wiring wasn't already a mess on= this car from the PO, I would be more concerned about it being correct and u= sing the shifter switch >=20 > (That and it is a CBB '78, so I am not that concerned apparently) >=20 > -- > Andrew >=20 >> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 12:06 PM Max Heim via Mgs wr= ote: >> It just occurred to me that this may not be as easy on a later car. A met= al-dash car already has the hole in the dash for the toggle switch. There is= probably not a handy hole in the 78 dash, and the =E2=80=9Cvintage-style=E2= =80=9D chrome-bezel toggle switch would look out of place. >>=20 >> For a while I had a Radio Shack =E2=80=9Cglowing blue=E2=80=9D toggle swi= tch installed (to remind me to switch off the OD), which might look more in k= eeping with the plastic dash. I was a little dubious about it handling the l= oad, but it held up fine. The solenoid doesn=E2=80=99t draw much. I don=E2=80= =99t really think there is any reason to run a relay, or the vacuum switch =E2= =80=94 a simple ON/OFF in series with the lock-out switch on the transmissio= n works fine. >>=20 >> I don=E2=80=99t understand how a momentary push button switch (Bert=E2=80= =99s suggestion) would even work... >>=20 >>=20 >> -- >> Max Heim >> '66 MGB >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Nov 11, 2019, at 9:32 AM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote= : >>>=20 >>> Exactly. I have a 1977 vintage blue label OD transmission in my 66. I ha= ve a dash-mounted switch to the left of the steering column. The wiring coul= dn=E2=80=99t be simpler. No weird expensive parts. The straight (as opposed t= o crookneck) dash OD switch is cheap. >>>=20 >>> You might not think the dash switch is as convenient as the gear lever s= witch, but it is really pretty ergonomic. You can flick it with the side of y= our hand while it is still in contact with the wheel =E2=80=94 you don't hav= e to go groping for it. >>>=20 >>> -- >>> Max Heim >>> '66 MGB >>>=20 >>>> On Nov 11, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Charley Robinson via Mgs wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> I've swapped OD gearboxes into two CBBs. In both cases I used the gear= levers from the original non-OD transmissions. I don't see any reason that= you can't use the gear lever you already have for the OD box. =20 >>>>=20 >>>> As to the OD switch, I'd put it on the dash if I had an open spot for i= t that was handy to my right hand. In the CB cars the wiring and switch are= already installed but there's no reason you can't find the white circuit th= at Paul mentioned and run a wire from it to your switch and from the switch t= o the lockout switch on the OD box. Looks like there are a couple of switch= es in the Moss catalog that would look OK on the dash. The switch is just a= SPST that can handle the solenoid current. >>>>=20 >>>> My $ .02, >>>>=20 >>>> CR >>>>=20 >>>>> On 11/11/2019 7:35 AM, Andrew Lundgren via Mgs wrote: >>>>> I have a '78. The transmission is a blue label, but the seller doesn't= have the shift lever. >>>>>=20 >>>>> A lever for a '78 is not a cheap thing, and my son who is driving it a= lot right now likes the Walnut MG logo shifter it has. So I'm looking at o= ptions for how to install the O/D switch.=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> =46rom the moss catalog, it looks like the '76 switch won't work with t= he '78. So I might have to buy the parts to put together the shifter switch o= r put it in the blank accessory switch above the fan on the dash. =20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 1:45 AM PaulHunt73 = wrote: >>>>>> None of that is to do with the OD itself. >>>>>> =20 >>>>>> Which gears it operated on is a function of the linkages on top of th= e gearbox, and you can have it on 3 and 4 or 4 only as you wish. When the T= CSA was introduced in late 76 to control 'surging' a third switch was added t= o the top of the gearbox that operated in 2nd and 4th, and this was wired in= series with the OD switch operating in 3rd and 4th to produce a 4th gear on= ly output controlling the TCSA and vacuum advance. I suspect that was not v= ery reliable as it was an external micro-switch so it was deleted and the ge= arbox components changed so the switch operated in 4th only, as done to the V= 8 several years previously. The gearbox switch now controlled both OD and T= CSA.=20 >>>>>> =20 >>>>>> The gear lever itself changed for the 77 model year to incorporate th= e OD manual switch, but that can also be fitted to any year, or the 77 conve= rted back to some other switch, as you wish. >>>>>> =20 >>>>>> The wiring prior to 77 was from the manual switch on the dash or the c= olumn, to the gearbox switch on a yellow and a yellow red, then from there t= o the solenoid. For 77 on it was from the ignition supply on a white to the= gearbox switch, then from there to the manual switch on the gear lever, and= from there to the solenoid. >>>>>> =20 >>>>>> Black label or blue label determines which speedo is compatible - bla= ck label was used on CB cars and used a 1280tpm speedo. Blue label was used= on RB cars and used a 1000tpm speedo. But speedos can be recalibrated if y= ou end up with the wrong combination.=20 >>>>>> =20 >>>>>> So as a 78 it should have a blue label OD and the manual switch on th= e gear lever, as the column switch - which together with the plastic dash wa= s new for the 77 model year - won't have that function. But if the car has t= he earlier RB dash and column switches you don't need the gear lever switch,= which is prone to shorting out and causing harness damage. >>>>>> =20 >>>>>> PaulH. >>>>>> =20 >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> Not so much. It will be a a bit still until the transmission arrives.= (Freight from NY to UT) I'm just trying to figure out which shifter it shou= ld have had as well as which gears it should work on. =20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I'm going to be putting it into a 78, but the current owner is still t= rying to track down the shifter from his friend, the previous owner. He does= n't know if it was a late shifter or an early one. >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> I'm trying to determine how to wire it in. >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>=20 >>>>> Mgs@autox.team.net >>>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archi= ve >>>>>=20 >>>>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/charley38@twc.c= om >>>>=20 >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>=20 >>>> Mgs@autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>>=20 >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archiv= e >>>>=20 >>>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim@sonic.net= >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>>=20 >>> Mgs@autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>=20 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive= >>>=20 >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim@sonic.net >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >>=20 >> Mgs@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>=20 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >>=20 >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/lundgren@byu.net > _______________________________________________ >=20 > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >=20 > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh@gmail.com --Apple-Mail-8316DAC0-DAC6-4D29-8345-943B1EEEB65C charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

&nb= sp; The indicator light is handy, I think, to avoid that unanticipated= shift into OD during acceleration when one forgets to shut off the OD.

I used a =E2=80=9Cgrain of wheat=E2=80=9D 12v= lightbulb in short piece of brass tubing, this assembly pushed into the sma= ll gap between the fascia panel and the steering column plastic housing. Wir= ed to the hot lead from the switch, it shows whenever the switch would activ= ate the OD, or OD would activate itself. An LED would be even better, b= ut this was done 20 years ago.

Bob

On Nov 11, 2019, at 2:44 PM, Andrew Lundgren via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:

The '78 dash= has an "Accessory Switch" that can be added. I have a factory bl= anking plate over that switch right now. If I go with the dash switch, that i= s where it will go. I would like a light as well, but I prefer the corr= ect look.

I will probably pull the lever off of my n= on-O/D and use it, at least initially. I will need to run the wires. I= f the wiring wasn't already a mess on this car from the PO, I would be more c= oncerned about it being correct and using the shifter switch

<= /div>
(That and it is a CBB '78, so I am not that concerned apparently)<= div>
--
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On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 12:= 06 PM Max Heim via Mgs <mgs@autox.t= eam.net> wrote:
It just occurred to me that t= his may not be as easy on a later car. A metal-dash car already has the hole= in the dash for the toggle switch. There is probably not a handy hole in th= e 78 dash, and the =E2=80=9Cvintage-style=E2=80=9D chrome-bezel toggle switc= h would look out of place.

For a while I had a Radio Shac= k =E2=80=9Cglowing blue=E2=80=9D toggle switch installed (to remind me to sw= itch off the OD), which might look more in keeping with the plastic dash. I w= as a little dubious about it handling the load, but it held up fine. The sol= enoid doesn=E2=80=99t draw much. I don=E2=80=99t really think there is any r= eason to run a relay, or the vacuum switch =E2=80=94 a simple ON/OFF in seri= es with the lock-out switch on the transmission works fine.
I don=E2=80=99t understand how a momentary push button switch (Bert= =E2=80=99s suggestion) would even work...
=
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On Nov 11, 2019, at 9:32 AM, Max Hei= m via Mgs <mgs@au= tox.team.net> wrote:
Exactly. I have a 1977 vintage blue label OD transmission in my 66. I= have a dash-mounted switch to the left of the steering column. The wiring c= ouldn=E2=80=99t be simpler. No weird expensive parts. The straight (as oppos= ed to crookneck) dash OD switch is cheap.

You might not t= hink the dash switch is as convenient as the gear lever switch, but it is re= ally pretty ergonomic. You can flick it with the side of your hand while it i= s still in contact with the wheel =E2=80=94 you don't have to go groping for= it.

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On Nov 11, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Charley= Robinson via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
I've swapped OD gearboxes into two CBBs. In both cases I used the gear levers from the original non-OD transmissions. I don't see an= y reason that you can't use the gear lever you already have for the OD box.

As to the OD switch, I'd put it on the dash if I had an open spot for it that was handy to my right hand. In the CB cars the wiring and switch are already installed but there's no reason you can't find the white circuit that Paul mentioned and run a wire from it to your switch and from the switch to the lockout switch on the OD box. Looks like there are a couple of switches in the Moss catalog= that would look OK on the dash. The switch is just a SPST that can= handle the solenoid current.

My $ .02,

CR

On 11/11/2019 7:35 AM, Andrew Lundgren via Mgs wrote:
=20
I have a '78. The transmission is a blue label, but the seller doesn't have the shift lever.

A lever for a '78 is not a cheap thing, and my son who is driving it a lot right now likes the Walnut MG logo shifter it has. So I'm looking at options for how to install= the O/D switch.

=46rom the moss catalog, it looks like the '76 switch won't work with the '78. So I might have to buy the parts to put together the shifter switch or put it in the blank accessory switch above the fan on the dash.

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 1:45 AM PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com> wrote:

None of that is to do with the OD itself.

Which gears it operated on is a function of the linkages on top of the gearbox, and you can have it on 3 and 4 or 4 only as you wish. When the TCSA&nbs= p;was introduced in late 76 to control 'surging' a third switch was added to the top of the gearbox that operated in 2nd and 4th, and this was wired in series with the OD switch operating in 3rd and 4th to produce a 4th gear only output controlling the TCSA and vacuum advance. I= suspect that was not very reliable as it was an external micro-switch so it was deleted and the gearbox components changed so the switch operated in 4th only, as done to the V8 several years previously.&= nbsp; The gearbox switch now controlled both OD and TCSA.

The gear lever itself changed for the= 77 model year to incorporate the OD manual switch, but tha= t can also be fitted to any year, or the 77 converted back to some other switch, as you wish.

The wiring prior to 77 was from the manual switch on the dash or the column, to the gearbox switch on a yellow and a yellow red, then from there to the solenoid. For 77 on it was from the ignition suppl= y on a white to the gearbox switch, then from there to the manual switch on the gear lever, and from there to the solenoid.

Black label or blue label determines which speedo is compatible - black label was used on CB cars and used a 1280tpm speedo. Blue label was used on= RB cars and used a 1000tpm speedo. But speedos can be recalibrated if you end up with the wrong combination. =

So as a 78 it should have a blue label OD and the manual switch on the gear lever, as the column switch - which together with the plastic dash was new for the 77 model year - won't have that function.&n= bsp; But if the car has the earlier RB dash and column switches you don't need the gear lever switch, which is prone to shorting out and causing harness damage.

PaulH.

----- Original Message -----

Not so much. It will be a a bit still until the transmission arrives. (Freight from NY to UT) I'm just trying to figure out which shifter it should have had as well as which gears it should work on. &nbs= p;

I'm going to be putting it into a 78, but the current owner is still trying to track down the shifter from his friend, the previous owner. He doesn't know if it was a late shifter or an early one.

I'm trying to determine how to wire it in.

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The indicator = light is handy, I think, to avoid that unanticipated shift into OD = during acceleration when one forgets to shut off the OD.
I used a =E2=80=9Cgrain of wheat=E2=80= =9D 12v lightbulb in short piece of brass tubing, this assembly pushed = into the small gap between the fascia panel and the steering column = plastic housing. Wired to the hot lead from the switch, it shows = whenever the switch would activate the OD, or OD would activate itself. = An LED would be even better, but this was done 20 years = ago.
Bob

On Nov 11, 2019, at 2:44 PM, Andrew Lundgren = via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:
The '78 dash has an = "Accessory Switch" that can be added. I have a factory = blanking plate over that switch right now. If I go with the dash switch, = that is where it will go. I would like a light as well, but I = prefer the correct look.

I will probably pull the lever off of = my non-O/D and use it, at least initially. I will need to run the = wires. If the wiring wasn't already a mess on this car from the PO, I = would be more concerned about it being correct and using the shifter = switch

(That = and it is a CBB '78, so I am not that concerned apparently)

--
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On Mon, Nov = 11, 2019 at 12:06 PM Max Heim via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> = wrote:
It just occurred to me that this may not be as = easy on a later car. A metal-dash car already has the hole in the dash = for the toggle switch. There is probably not a handy hole in the 78 = dash, and the =E2=80=9Cvintage-style=E2=80=9D chrome-bezel toggle switch = would look out of place.

For a while I had a Radio Shack =E2=80=9Cglowing blue=E2=80=9D = toggle switch installed (to remind me to switch off the OD), which might = look more in keeping with the plastic dash. I was a little dubious about = it handling the load, but it held up fine. The solenoid doesn=E2=80=99t = draw much. I don=E2=80=99t really think there is any reason to run a = relay, or the vacuum switch =E2=80=94 a simple ON/OFF in series with the = lock-out switch on the transmission works fine.

I don=E2=80=99t understand how a = momentary push button switch (Bert=E2=80=99s suggestion) would even = work...
--
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'66 = MGB
On Nov 11, 2019, at 9:32 AM, Max Heim via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:
Exactly. = I have a 1977 vintage blue label OD transmission in my 66. I have a = dash-mounted switch to the left of the steering column. The wiring = couldn=E2=80=99t be simpler. No weird expensive parts. The straight (as = opposed to crookneck) dash OD switch is cheap.

You might not think the dash switch is = as convenient as the gear lever switch, but it is really pretty = ergonomic. You can flick it with the side of your hand while it is still = in contact with the wheel =E2=80=94 you don't have to go groping for = it.
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'66 = MGB
On Nov 11, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Charley Robinson via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
I've swapped OD gearboxes into two CBBs. In both cases I used = the gear levers from the original non-OD transmissions. I don't = see any reason that you can't use the gear lever you already have for the OD box.

As to the OD switch, I'd put it on the dash if I had an open spot for it that was handy to my right hand. In the CB cars the = wiring and switch are already installed but there's no reason you can't find the white circuit that Paul mentioned and run a wire from it to your switch and from the switch to the lockout switch on the OD box. Looks like there are a couple of switches in the Moss = catalog that would look OK on the dash. The switch is just a SPST that = can handle the solenoid current.

My $ .02,

CR

On 11/11/2019 7:35 AM, Andrew Lundgren via Mgs wrote:
=20
I have a '78. The transmission is a = blue label, but the seller doesn't have the shift lever.

A lever for a '78 is not a cheap = thing, and my son who is driving it a lot right now likes the Walnut MG logo shifter it has. So I'm looking at options for how to = install the O/D switch.

=46rom the moss catalog, it looks = like the '76 switch won't work with the '78. So I might have to buy the parts to put together the shifter switch or put it in the blank accessory switch above the fan on the = dash.

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 1:45 = AM PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com> wrote:

None of that = is to do with the OD itself.

Which gears it = operated on is a function of the linkages on top of the gearbox, and you can have it on 3 and 4 or 4 only as you wish. When the = TCSA was introduced in late 76 to control 'surging' a third switch was added to the top of the gearbox that operated in 2nd and 4th, and this was wired in series with the OD switch operating in 3rd and 4th to produce a 4th gear only output controlling the TCSA and vacuum = advance. I suspect that was not very reliable as it was an external micro-switch so it was deleted and the gearbox components changed so the switch operated in 4th only, as done to the V8 several years = previously. The gearbox switch now controlled both OD and TCSA. =

The = gear lever itself changed for the 77 model year to incorporate the OD manual switch, but = that can also be fitted to any year, or the 77 converted back to some other switch, as you wish.

The wiring prior = to 77 was from the manual switch on the dash or the column, to the gearbox switch on a yellow and a yellow red, then from there to the solenoid. For 77 on it was from the ignition = supply on a white to the gearbox switch, then from there to the manual switch on the gear lever, and from there to the solenoid.

Black label or = blue label determines which speedo is compatible - black label was used on CB cars and used a 1280tpm speedo. Blue label was = used on RB cars and used a 1000tpm speedo. But speedos can = be recalibrated if you end up with the wrong = combination.

So as a 78 it = should have a blue label OD and the manual switch on the gear lever, as the column switch - which together with the plastic dash was new for the 77 model year - won't have that = function. But if the car has the earlier RB dash and column switches you don't need the gear lever switch, which is prone to shorting out and causing harness = damage.

PaulH.

----- Original = Message -----

Not so much. It will be a a = bit still until the transmission arrives. (Freight from NY to UT) I'm just trying to figure out which shifter it should have had as well as which gears it should work = on.

I'm going to be putting it = into a 78, but the current owner is still trying to track down the shifter from his friend, the previous owner. He doesn't know if it was a late shifter or an early = one.

I'm trying to determine how = to wire it in.
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=C2=A0 Hello MG friends,

=C2=A0 =C2= =A0Although this note isn't about my MG, I thought I would share a coup= le of pictures of my TR6 project. The car is now painted and beginning to c= ome back together. In this first picture, one can see the new but dusty pai= nt and a still unpolished bumper.

http://aubard= .us/75_Triumph/20191110_170414.jpg=C2=A0

=C2= =A0 =C2=A0One can see that the bumper protrusions and front spoiler have no= t yet been repainted black.=C2=A0

http://aubard= .us/75_Triumph/20191110_170506.jpg=C2=A0

=C2= =A0 =C2=A0Same with the front turn signal lenses. The electrical system is = disabled so I don't know if the lamp sockets are viable, but that's= easy to check, and remedied as required, later when the system gets powere= d up.

http://aubard.us/75_Triumph/20191110_= 170431.jpg=C2=A0

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 The bolt holes = on the front of the bumper are leftovers from the front license mount - not= needed here in Texas, on a classic car. The bolts on the top of the bumper= are where fog lights once resided.

Rick=C2=A0

That's because he omitted to say it = needs additional=20 circuitry and components!

I got fed up with OD auto-engaging as I changed from = 2nd to=20 3rd so built a circuit that once out of an OD gear, it locked it out=20 semi-permanently until I turned the manual switch off and back on = again. =20 That has a warning light to say it has been locked out, rather than one = to say=20 it is engaged. More info here http://www.m= gb-stuff.org.uk/gearstext.htm#sequencer

That uses a relay which has been completely = reliable, for a=20 time someone was selling a module based on a thyristor but a pal = has one=20 and it keeps triggering when some other electrical circuit is switched = off or=20 on. That also has a panel with a push-button for on, another for = off, and=20 an LED but that needs mounting somewhere, mine just uses the standard=20 switch. A link to a circuit for that is there as = well.

----- Original Message -----

I don=E2=80=99t understand how a momentary push button switch = (Bert=E2=80=99s suggestion)=20 would even work...

I got fed up with OD auto-engaging as I changed from 2nd to 3rd so built a circuit that once out of an OD gear, it locked it out semi-permanently until I turned the manual switch off and back on again. That has a warning light to say it has been locked out, rather than one to say it is engaged. More info here http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/gearstext.htm#sequencer

On Nov 12, 2019, at 5:43 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com> = wrote:

I have a neat little module that does as you = describe except it has no warning light. It is plugged into the = wiring between the manual OD switch and the transmission switches. In = the case of my CBB it's sitting on the shelf on the passenger side of = the heater box. It's all solid state, has never given me any = trouble. I bought the thing on line a few years ago but I don't = remember the name of the seller. I absolutely love the = thing!

CR

On 11/12/2019 2:26 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs wrote:
=EF=BB=BF
I got = fed up with OD auto-engaging as I changed from 2nd to 3rd so built a = circuit that once out of an OD gear, it locked it out semi-permanently = until I turned the manual switch off and back on again. That has a = warning light to say it has been locked out, rather than one to say it = is engaged. More info here http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/gearstext.htm#sequencer<= /div>

PaulH.

Overdrive seems to me to be a function where a clear on/off toggle is the natural mode of engagement. Sometimes I want it on, sometimes off, and I want to know which mode it is in.

But then, I think the “start button” on modern cars is idiotic. So YMMV.

Max Heim

'66 MGB

On Nov 12, 2019, at 5:43 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com> wrote:

I have a neat little module that does as you describe except it has no warning light. It is plugged into the wiring between the manual OD switch and the transmission switches. In the case of my CBB it's sitting on the shelf on the passenger side of the heater box. It's all solid state, has never given me any trouble. I bought the thing on line a few years ago but I don't remember the name of the seller. I absolutely love the thing!

CR

On 11/12/2019 2:26 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs wrote:

I got fed up with OD auto-engaging as I changed from 2nd to 3rd so built a circuit that once out of an OD gear, it locked it out semi-permanently until I turned the manual switch off and back on again. That has a warning light to say it has been locked out, rather than one to say it is engaged. More info here http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/gearstext.htm#sequencer

PaulH.

Overdrive seems to me to be a function where a clear on/off toggle is the natural mode of engagement. Sometimes I want it on, sometimes off, and I want to know which mode it is in.

But then, I think the “start button” on modern cars is idiotic. So YMMV.

Max Heim

'66 MGB

On Nov 12, 2019, at 5:43 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com> wrote:

I have a neat little module that does as you describe except it has no warning light. It is plugged into the wiring between the manual OD switch and the transmission switches. In the case of my CBB it's sitting on the shelf on the passenger side of the heater box. It's all solid state, has never given me any trouble. I bought the thing on line a few years ago but I don't remember the name of the seller. I absolutely love the thing!

CR

On 11/12/2019 2:26 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs wrote:

I got fed up with OD auto-engaging as I changed from 2nd to 3rd so built a circuit that once out of an OD gear, it locked it out semi-permanently until I turned the manual switch off and back on again. That has a warning light to say it has been locked out, rather than one to say it is engaged. More info here http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/gearstext.htm#sequencer

PaulH.

Or someone else coming along with a magic box = and driving=20 off in your car without the need to unlock it, de-immobilise it, or = unlock the=20 steering.

As the Amish say - 'Progress' doesn't always = mean=20 'better'.

----- Original Message -----

...=20 Now is having something in your = pocket,=20 and switching on and then pushing=20 'Start',...

Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Barrie = Robinson via Mgs
Verzonden: woensdag 13 november 2019 = 16:46
Aan: mgs@autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] = Determine build date for an O/D = transmission?

On 11/12/2019 12:19 PM, Max Heim via Mgs = wrote:

Overdrive seems to me to be a function where a clear = on/off toggle is the natural mode of engagement. Sometimes I want it on, = sometimes off, and I want to know which mode it is = in.

But then, I think the =E2=80=9Cstart button=E2=80=9D = on modern cars is idiotic. So YMMV.

Max = Heim

'66 = MGB

On Nov 12, 2019, at 5:43 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com> = wrote:

I have a neat little module that does as you describe except it has = no warning light. It is plugged into the wiring between the manual = OD switch and the transmission switches. In the case of my CBB it's = sitting on the shelf on the passenger side of the heater box. It's = all solid state, has never given me any trouble. I bought the = thing on line a few years ago but I don't remember the name of the = seller. I absolutely love the thing!

CR

On = 11/12/2019 2:26 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs = wrote:
=EF=BB=BF =
I got fed = up with OD auto-engaging as I changed from 2nd to 3rd so built a circuit = that once out of an OD gear, it locked it out semi-permanently until I = turned the manual switch off and back on again. That has a warning = light to say it has been locked out, rather than one to say it is = engaged. More info here http://www.m= gb-stuff.org.uk/gearstext.htm#sequencer<= /span>
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Isn't there a 'hidden' key in the key fob, Han= s? My Mazda CX-5 has push-button start, but there is a key inside the fob t= hat can be removed in case of the battery in the fob dying..... So the the = least, you can always get in the car.=C2=A0

And in that = scenario, if you use the key fob itself to push the start button, the car w= ill start....

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On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:38 PM Hans Duinhoven via Mgs &= lt;mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:<= br>

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So true. This week my wife ha= rdly could get the doors unlocked of our business Mazda 6 sw. reason was th= at the battery of the key became empty. Stupid thing does that without a wa= rning. One should carry the spare key with them, in order to prevent such t= hing making someone stranded in the middle of nowhere=E2=80=A6
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OMG.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Isn't it amazing how current technology = demands complications. Used to be you put in a key turned it and "broo= m broom".=C2=A0 Now is having something in your pocket, and=C2=A0 swit= ching on and then pushing 'Start',=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 But then every= thing these days is "marketing groomed".=C2=A0=C2=A0 My new radio= has oodles of "features" (most of which I do not understand) but= a lousy weak station reception - my $40 portable radio is MUCH better IN t= he car that the $$$$$$ "car" radio !!!!!!

Barrie - he of M= GB GT V8 fame:-)<= /span>
On 11/12/2019 12= :19 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
As an interface d= esigner, I am puzzled by the =E2=80=9Cpush for on=E2=80=9D solution. It see= ms somehow inappropriate as well as unnecessarily complex.
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Overdrive seems to me to be a function where a clear on/off = toggle is the natural mode of engagement. Sometimes I want it on, sometimes= off, and I want to know which mode it is in.
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CR

On 11/12/2019 2:26 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs wrote= :
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I got fed up with OD auto-engaging as I changed f= rom 2nd to 3rd so built a circuit that once out of an OD gear, it locked it= out semi-permanently until I turned the manual switch off and back on agai= n.=C2=A0 That has a warning light to say it has been locked out, rather tha= n one to say it is engaged.=C2=A0 More info here=C2=A0http://www.mgb-s= tuff.org.uk/gearstext.htm#sequencer
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That's usually gradual, but if you habitually don't = operate=20 the locks unless you are right by the car you probably wouldn't = notice. =20 It's said (in many places) that holding the fob against your head = whilst=20 pressing the button boosts the signal to double or more.

I can get into mine with a key, but it sets the = alarm off, and=20 only the fob will switch that off! Keep the spare in the glove=20 box?

And do you regularly test the spare fob? = :o)

----- Original Message -----

Ha, ok, OT, but I have actually tested that, Paul.... The = fob for our CX-5 doesn't have a lot of range, and I once tested it from= the same distance using just the fob (didn't unlock) and holding it un= der my jaw with my mouth open (unlocked it).=C2=A0

As I = did this in the high school parking lot after a field hockey game, my daugh= ter=C2=A0was a little peeved.

The hidden fob key f= or this car doesn't set off the alarm.

Dan D

Central NJ USA

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On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 3:49 A= M PaulHunt73 via Mgs <mgs@autox.te= am.net> wrote:

That's usually gradual, but if you habitually don= 't operate=20 the locks unless you are right by the car you probably wouldn't notice.= =C2=A0=20 It's said (in many places) that holding the fob against your=C2=A0head = whilst=20 pressing the button boosts the signal to double or more.

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I can get into mine with a key, but it sets the alarm= off, and=20 only the fob will switch that off!=C2=A0 Keep the spare in the glove=20 box?

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And do you regularly test the spare fob? :o)
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So true. This week my wife = hardly could get the doors unlocked of=20 our business Mazda 6 sw. reason was that the battery of the key became em= pty.=20 Stupid thing does that without a warning. One should carry the spare key = with=20 them, in order to prevent such thing making someone stranded in the middl= e of=20 nowhere=E2=80=A6
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Subject:	Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission?
Date:	Thu, 14 Nov 2019 09:31:06 -0500
From:	Barrie Robinson <barrob@bell.net>
To:	PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com>

Hello Folks,

I thought that idea of holding a fob against ones skull was an old wife's tale - but NO, it works !! I have tested it several times by walking away from my car until the fob no longer worked. Then held it up against my skull (the fob not the car)- and bingo it works. My explanation is that the back of the skull acts as a parabolic dish focusing the energy to the target(car). But it definitely works !! If it doesn't maybe your brain is interfering with the beam :-)

But I understand the industry is working on a small metal tongue which when inserted into a slot will open doors, switch on engines and similar. It will not need a battery and can be copied by most hardware stores. Small and light and small than fobs.

On 11/14/2019 3:29 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs wrote:

That's usually gradual, but if you habitually don't operate the locks unless you are right by the car you probably wouldn't notice. It's said (in many places) that holding the fob against your head whilst pressing the button boosts the signal to double or more.

I can get into mine with a key, but it sets the alarm off, and only the fob will switch that off! Keep the spare in the glove box?

And do you regularly test the spare fob? :o)

PaulH.

----- Original Message -----

So true. This week my wife hardly could get the doors unlocked of our business Mazda 6 sw. reason was that the battery of the key became empty. Stupid thing does that without a warning. One should carry the spare key with them, in order to prevent such thing making someone stranded in the middle of nowhere…
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<1d611eaa-c715-bf77-ab97-c284a9558be8@bell.net> <002b01d59a49$246beac0$6d43c040$ @planet.nl> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2019 18:41:11 +0100 Content-Language: nl thread-index: AQLms4/l+WmhNDYM47d6kbeeKyfbagJGa/7ZARTbvmIB0QBOSgLcGcEuAeNPMGYB5tiT+AHHXy7+AiMwUYkA+6N9LQHpTjv6AjWAsGsBpZLgoQNal3FJAX6O28YBy1dRFgJ6qIA0Ar241HYDCUiQPQKtkVE8Ak67YJSkFb+l4A== FILETIME=[BB12B660:01D59B12] Subject: Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission? From: Hans Duinhoven via Mgs Cc: 'mglist' Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============2806081056989476782== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0054_01D59B1B.1B1DD5A0" Content-Language: nl This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01D59B1B.1B1DD5A0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes Dan,=20 =20 There seems to be a emergency procedure.=20 A car driver should learn this procedure by heart, because when the key = does not enable to open the doors, you also cannot read the car manual = and see what the emergency procedure is!=20 But with your method I should be able to get into the car and read the = manual! =20 Cheers! Hans =20 Van: Dan DiBiase [mailto:dan.dibiase@gmail.com]=20 Verzonden: woensdag 13 november 2019 21:37 Aan: Hans Duinhoven CC: Barrie Robinson; mglist Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission? =20 Isn't there a 'hidden' key in the key fob, Hans? My Mazda CX-5 has = push-button start, but there is a key inside the fob that can be removed = in case of the battery in the fob dying..... So the the least, you can = always get in the car.=20 =20 And in that scenario, if you use the key fob itself to push the start = button, the car will start.... =20 Dan D Central NJ USA http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/ =20 =20 On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:38 PM Hans Duinhoven via Mgs = wrote: So true. This week my wife hardly could get the doors unlocked of our = business Mazda 6 sw. reason was that the battery of the key became = empty. Stupid thing does that without a warning. One should carry the = spare key with them, in order to prevent such thing making someone = stranded in the middle of nowhere=E2=80=A6 =20 Cheers, Hans=20 71 BGT where everything is manual, unless operated by foot =20 Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Barrie Robinson via = Mgs Verzonden: woensdag 13 november 2019 16:46 Aan: mgs@autox.team.net Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission? =20 Hello folks, OMG. Isn't it amazing how current technology demands complications. = Used to be you put in a key turned it and "broom broom". Now is having = something in your pocket, and switching on and then pushing 'Start', = But then everything these days is "marketing groomed". My new radio = has oodles of "features" (most of which I do not understand) but a lousy = weak station reception - my $40 portable radio is MUCH better IN the car = that the $$$$$$ "car" radio !!!!!! Barrie - he of MGB GT V8 fame:-) On 11/12/2019 12:19 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote: As an interface designer, I am puzzled by the =E2=80=9Cpush for = on=E2=80=9D solution. It seems somehow inappropriate as well as = unnecessarily complex.=20 =20 Overdrive seems to me to be a function where a clear on/off toggle is = the natural mode of engagement. Sometimes I want it on, sometimes off, = and I want to know which mode it is in. =20 But then, I think the =E2=80=9Cstart button=E2=80=9D on modern cars is = idiotic. So YMMV. =20 -- Max Heim '66 MGB =20 On Nov 12, 2019, at 5:43 AM, Charley Robinson wrote: =20 I have a neat little module that does as you describe except it has no = warning light. It is plugged into the wiring between the manual OD = switch and the transmission switches. In the case of my CBB it's sitting = on the shelf on the passenger side of the heater box. It's all solid = state, has never given me any trouble. I bought the thing on line a = few years ago but I don't remember the name of the seller. I absolutely = love the thing! CR On 11/12/2019 2:26 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs wrote: =EF=BB=BF=20 I got fed up with OD auto-engaging as I changed from 2nd to 3rd so built = a circuit that once out of an OD gear, it locked it out semi-permanently = until I turned the manual switch off and back on again. That has a = warning light to say it has been locked out, rather than one to say it = is engaged. More info here = http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/gearstext.htm#sequencer =20 PaulH. =20 =20 =20 _______________________________________________ =20 Mgs@autox.team.net =20 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive =20 Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrob@bell.net =20 _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase@gmail.com ------=_NextPart_000_0054_01D59B1B.1B1DD5A0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Yes Dan,

There seems to be a emergency procedure.

A car driver should learn this procedure by heart, because when the = key does not enable to open the doors, you also cannot read the car = manual and see what the emergency procedure is!

But with your method I should be able to get into the car and read = the manual!

Cheers!

Hans

Van:<= /b> = Dan DiBiase [mailto:dan.dibiase@gmail.com]
Verzonden: = woensdag 13 november 2019 21:37
Aan: Hans = Duinhoven
CC: Barrie Robinson; mglist
Onderwerp: Re: = [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D = transmission?

Isn't = there a 'hidden' key in the key fob, Hans? My Mazda CX-5 has push-button = start, but there is a key inside the fob that can be removed in case of = the battery in the fob dying..... So the the least, you can always get = in the car.

And in that scenario, if you use the key fob itself to = push the start button, the car will start....

Dan D

Central NJ USA

http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/

On = Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:38 PM Hans Duinhoven via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> = wrote:

So true. This week my wife hardly could get the doors unlocked of our = business Mazda 6 sw. reason was that the battery of the key became = empty. Stupid thing does that without a warning. One should carry the = spare key with them, in order to prevent such thing making someone = stranded in the middle of nowhere=E2=80=A6

Cheers,
Hans
71 BGT where everything is manual, unless operated by = foot

Van:<= /b> = Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Barrie = Robinson via Mgs
Verzonden: woensdag 13 november 2019 = 16:46
Aan: mgs@autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] = Determine build date for an O/D = transmission?
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Hello = folks,

OMG. Isn't it amazing how current technology = demands complications. Used to be you put in a key turned it and = "broom broom". Now is having something in your pocket, = and switching on and then pushing 'Start', But = then everything these days is "marketing groomed". = My new radio has oodles of "features" (most of which I do not = understand) but a lousy weak station reception - my $40 portable radio = is MUCH better IN the car that the $$$$$$ "car" radio = !!!!!!

Barrie - he of MGB GT V8 fame:-)
On = 11/12/2019 12:19 PM, Max Heim via Mgs = wrote:
As an = interface designer, I am puzzled by the =E2=80=9Cpush for on=E2=80=9D = solution. It seems somehow inappropriate as well as unnecessarily = complex.
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Overdrive = seems to me to be a function where a clear on/off toggle is the natural = mode of engagement. Sometimes I want it on, sometimes off, and I want to = know which mode it is in.
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But then, I = think the =E2=80=9Cstart button=E2=80=9D on modern cars is idiotic. So = YMMV.
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--
Max Heim
'66 = MGB
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On Nov 12, = 2019, at 5:43 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com> = wrote:
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I have a neat little module that does as you describe except it has = no warning light. It is plugged into the wiring between the manual = OD switch and the transmission switches. In the case of my CBB it's = sitting on the shelf on the passenger side of the heater box. It's = all solid state, has never given me any trouble. I bought the = thing on line a few years ago but I don't remember the name of the = seller. I absolutely love the thing!

CR
On = 11/12/2019 2:26 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs = wrote:
=EF=BB=BF =
I got fed = up with OD auto-engaging as I changed from 2nd to 3rd so built a circuit = that once out of an OD gear, it locked it out semi-permanently until I = turned the manual switch off and back on again. That has a warning = light to say it has been locked out, rather than one to say it is = engaged. More info here http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/gearstext.htm#sequencer=

PaulH.
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Wow =E2=80=93 my head being a booster! = Really?
How good are all these things for my head?
All kinds of radiation everywhere now.
From keyfobs to wifi to 5G.
Next time we=E2=80=99re cooked.

Cheers,
Hans

Van: PaulHunt73 [mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com] =
Verzonden: donderdag 14 november 2019 9:29
Aan: = Hans Duinhoven
CC: mgs@autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: = [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D = transmission?

That's usually gradual, but = if you habitually don't operate the locks unless you are right by the = car you probably wouldn't notice. It's said (in many places) that = holding the fob against your head whilst pressing the button boosts = the signal to double or more.

I = can get into mine with a key, but it sets the alarm off, and only the = fob will switch that off! Keep the spare in the glove = box?

And = do you regularly test the spare fob? :o)

PaulH.
----- Original Message -----

So true. This week my wife hardly could get the doors unlocked of our = business Mazda 6 sw. reason was that the battery of the key became = empty. Stupid thing does that without a warning. One should carry the = spare key with them, in order to prevent such thing making someone = stranded in the middle of = nowhere=E2=80=A6
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Don't press it against your head too hard = :o)

----- Original Message -----

Wow =E2=80=93 my head being a booster! = Really?

How good are all these things for my = head?

All kinds of radiation everywhere = now.

From keyfobs to wifi to 5G.

Next time we=E2=80=99re cooked.

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From: Hans Duinhoven via Mgs Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============1572676576454864314== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0025_01D59BD8.409119B0" Content-Language: nl This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01D59BD8.409119B0 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =E2=80=9CKeep the spare in the glove box?=E2=80=9D you wrote Paul. I do not think this is a good idea. The key is a key-less start enabling =E2=80=9Ckey=E2=80=9D. So leaving a spare key in the car makes it a thief very easy to get away = with my car, once he is in the car! Just smashing a window will do the job. =20 But it is good to take the spare key with me on a long journey.=20 =20 Cheers, Hans =20 =20 Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Hans Duinhoven via = Mgs Verzonden: donderdag 14 november 2019 18:46 Aan: 'PaulHunt73' CC: mgs@autox.team.net Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission? =20 Wow =E2=80=93 my head being a booster! Really? How good are all these things for my head? All kinds of radiation everywhere now. >From keyfobs to wifi to 5G. Next time we=E2=80=99re cooked. =20 Cheers, Hans =20 Van: PaulHunt73 [mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com]=20 Verzonden: donderdag 14 november 2019 9:29 Aan: Hans Duinhoven CC: mgs@autox.team.net Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission? =20 That's usually gradual, but if you habitually don't operate the locks = unless you are right by the car you probably wouldn't notice. It's said = (in many places) that holding the fob against your head whilst pressing = the button boosts the signal to double or more. =20 I can get into mine with a key, but it sets the alarm off, and only the = fob will switch that off! Keep the spare in the glove box? =20 And do you regularly test the spare fob? :o) =20 PaulH. ----- Original Message -----=20 =20 So true. This week my wife hardly could get the doors unlocked of our = business Mazda 6 sw. reason was that the battery of the key became = empty. Stupid thing does that without a warning. One should carry the = spare key with them, in order to prevent such thing making someone = stranded in the middle of nowhere=E2=80=A6 ------=_NextPart_000_0025_01D59BD8.409119B0 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=E2=80=9CKeep the spare in = the glove box?=E2=80=9D you wrote Paul.
I do not think this is a = good idea.
The key is a key-less start = enabling =E2=80=9Ckey=E2=80=9D.
So leaving a spare key in = the car makes it a thief very easy to get away with my car, once he is = in the car!
Just smashing a window will = do the job.

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>But it is good to take the = spare key with me on a long journey.

Cheers,
Hans

Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Hans = Duinhoven via Mgs
Verzonden: donderdag 14 november 2019 = 18:46
Aan: 'PaulHunt73'
CC: = mgs@autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Determine build date = for an O/D transmission?

Wow =E2=80=93 my head being a booster! = Really?
How good are all these things for my head?
All kinds of radiation everywhere now.
From keyfobs to wifi to 5G.
Next time we=E2=80=99re cooked.

Cheers,
Hans

Van: PaulHunt73 [mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com] =
Verzonden: donderdag 14 november 2019 9:29
Aan: = Hans Duinhoven
CC: mgs@autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: = [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D = transmission?

That's usually gradual, but = if you habitually don't operate the locks unless you are right by the = car you probably wouldn't notice. It's said (in many places) that = holding the fob against your head whilst pressing the button boosts = the signal to double or more.

I = can get into mine with a key, but it sets the alarm off, and only the = fob will switch that off! Keep the spare in the glove = box?

And = do you regularly test the spare fob? :o)

PaulH.
----- Original Message -----

So true. This week my wife hardly could get the doors unlocked of our = business Mazda 6 sw. reason was that the battery of the key became = empty. Stupid thing does that without a warning. One should carry the = spare key with them, in order to prevent such thing making someone = stranded in the middle of = nowhere=E2=80=A6
------=_NextPart_000_0025_01D59BD8.409119B0-- --===============1572676576454864314== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============1572676576454864314==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Nov 15 09:46:15 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A297A02CC for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 09:46:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from torfep01.bell.net (unknown [184.150.200.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2B66A05CF for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 09:41:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from bell.net torfep01 184.150.200.158 by torfep01.bell.net with ESMTP id <20191115164140.RCSF4584.torfep01.bell.net@torspm02.bell.net> for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 11:41:40 -0500 Received: from [192.168.2.11] (really [64.228.65.244]) by torspm02.bell.net with ESMTP id <20191115164140.EGKH16325.torspm02.bell.net@[192.168.2.11]> for ; Fri, 15 Nov 2019 11:41:40 -0500 To: mgs@autox.team.net References: <147644243.223232.1573301919235@mail2.virginmedia.com> <5CC04AB9B7164DEEB5A149BD957F6986@paul> <005601d597f0$7073cc40$515b64c0$@planet.nl> <3E2624E4-4D1D-4E71-BBF2-CB6F0DD7A6B2@ur.rochester.edu> <4B3A3A04927A4478BAAF17B0DA7AFBAD@paul> <4318b77a-b906-0429-3761-647a95225615@twc.com> <38EA6E6F-FD06-43EE-A1A5-E8A87A34F0C4@sonic.net> <3192E165-1388-45AE-AF46-9A114BB11CEE@sonic.net> <1F04728A8D77449F8EA64CEC088B45AB@paul> <1d611eaa-c715-bf77-ab97-c284a9558be8@bell.net> <002b01d59a49$246beac0$6d43c040$@planet.nl> <87E81A7976944B6A8BCC57B6614F7924@paul> <005801d59b13$706 29350$5127b9f0$@planet.nl> <002401d59bcf$decb7930$9c626b90$@planet.nl> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2019 11:41:37 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.1 Content-Language: en-US a=7d9a61Jm8FKVDB+QRoVqAw==:117 a=7d9a61Jm8FKVDB+QRoVqAw==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=MeAgGD-zjQ4A:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=NcN59idvAAAA:8 a=FBHGMhGWAAAA:8 a=aX1MnKvVz6SSJNtB6C0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=slzeZfzHrsB9WQxmpucA:9 a=gj3V32Bd4ZnjIKRj:21 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=GGGinmgZRQXmVEG1E52S:22 a=9gvnlMMaQFpL9xblJ6ne:22 lcGoXhyHUsKtpd6BFBXtAya0Wo+vXOmjLaooJfh+S+GXnEmrB0cU7yW2 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission? From: Barrie Robinson via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============4319915504529816017== boundary="------------4CABC0C242FA16DB0FAC8EC1" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4CABC0C242FA16DB0FAC8EC1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit But don't people hide a spare key under the car?   I don't use those fancy holder things as their magnets are not strong enough. I use those super strong magnets with key in thin small plastic bag. But I usually forget where I put it !!!!!!   Oh, do "modern" cars not have the old fashioned key??? On 11/15/2019 11:15 AM, Hans Duinhoven via Mgs wrote: > > “Keep the spare in the glove box?” you wrote Paul. > > I do not think this is a good idea. > > The key is a key-less start enabling “key”. > > So leaving a spare key in the car makes it a thief very easy to get > away with my car, once he is in the car! > > Just smashing a window will do the job. > > But it is good to take the spare key with me on a long journey. > > Cheers, > > Hans > > *Van:*Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] *Namens *Hans Duinhoven > via Mgs > *Verzonden:* donderdag 14 november 2019 18:46 > *Aan:* 'PaulHunt73' > *CC:* mgs@autox.team.net > *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission? > > Wow – my head being a booster! Really? > > How good are all these things for my head? > > All kinds of radiation everywhere now. > > From keyfobs to wifi to 5G. > > Next time we’re cooked. > > Cheers, > > Hans > > *Van:*PaulHunt73 [mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com] > *Verzonden:* donderdag 14 november 2019 9:29 > *Aan:* Hans Duinhoven > *CC:* mgs@autox.team.net > *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission? > > That's usually gradual, but if you habitually don't operate the locks > unless you are right by the car you probably wouldn't notice. It's > said (in many places) that holding the fob against your head whilst > pressing the button boosts the signal to double or more. > > I can get into mine with a key, but it sets the alarm off, and only > the fob will switch that off! Keep the spare in the glove box? > > And do you regularly test the spare fob? :o) > > PaulH. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > So true. This week my wife hardly could get the doors unlocked of > our business Mazda 6 sw. reason was that the battery of the key > became empty. Stupid thing does that without a warning. One should > carry the spare key with them, in order to prevent such thing > making someone stranded in the middle of nowhere… > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrob@bell.net --------------4CABC0C242FA16DB0FAC8EC1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit But don't people hide a spare key under the car?   I don't use those fancy holder things as their magnets are not strong enough. I use those super strong magnets with key in thin small plastic bag. But I usually forget where I put it !!!!!!   Oh, do "modern" cars not have the old fashioned key???

On 11/15/2019 11:15 AM, Hans Duinhoven via Mgs wrote:

“Keep the spare in the glove box?” you wrote Paul.

I do not think this is a good idea.

The key is a key-less start enabling “key”.

So leaving a spare key in the car makes it a thief very easy to get away with my car, once he is in the car!

Just smashing a window will do the job.

But it is good to take the spare key with me on a long journey.

Cheers,

Hans

Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Hans Duinhoven via Mgs
Verzonden: donderdag 14 november 2019 18:46
Aan: 'PaulHunt73'
CC: mgs@autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission?

Wow – my head being a booster! Really?

How good are all these things for my head?

All kinds of radiation everywhere now.

From keyfobs to wifi to 5G.

Next time we’re cooked.

Cheers,

Hans

Van: PaulHunt73 [mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com]
Verzonden: donderdag 14 november 2019 9:29
Aan: Hans Duinhoven
CC: mgs@autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission?

That's usually gradual, but if you habitually don't operate the locks unless you are right by the car you probably wouldn't notice. It's said (in many places) that holding the fob against your head whilst pressing the button boosts the signal to double or more.

I can get into mine with a key, but it sets the alarm off, and only the fob will switch that off! Keep the spare in the glove box?

And do you regularly test the spare fob? :o)

PaulH.

----- Original Message -----

So true. This week my wife hardly could get the doors unlocked of our business Mazda 6 sw. reason was that the battery of the key became empty. Stupid thing does that without a warning. One should carry the spare key with them, in order to prevent such thing making someone stranded in the middle of nowhere…

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From: Robert's New iPad via Mgs Cc: MG List , Hans Duinhoven Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5650563710996576040== boundary=Apple-Mail-832B7F51-4A46-4662-8FB9-53139D430865 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-832B7F51-4A46-4662-8FB9-53139D430865 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable If you have the two-function switch to right side of steering column, it w= ill handle wipers and the OD. Have a go at the switch to see if wipers work= when switch is near to steering wheel and when it is pushed toward fascia. = If the switch has two positions, the OD will be in the pulled toward steeri= ng wheel notch. There is a yellow wire on passenger side of engine space tha= t is the OD control wire. Check it for 12V, ignition on, switch in both posi= tions. =20 When the OD arrives, use ohmmeter to see if power flows through the OD=E2= =80=99s switch in 3rd and 4th speeds. Your new OD may be 4th only, but when= they are apart they can be modified to be like the earlier ones, 3rd & 4th,= which someone may have done.=20 Check these things to be certain of what you actually have. In 40 years, t= here is no telling what changes a previous owner has made.=20 Wise owners suggest installing a fuse in the yellow-wire connections, 10A w= ill do.=20 While you are at it, a 10A fuse in the white wire circuit to fuel pump is g= ood also.=20 Bob > On Nov 10, 2019, at 6:43 PM, Andrew Lundgren via Mgs w= rote: >=20 > Not so much. It will be a a bit still until the transmission arrives. (Fre= ight from NY to UT) I'm just trying to figure out which shifter it should ha= ve had as well as which gears it should work on. =20 >=20 > I'm going to be putting it into a 78, but the current owner is still tryin= g to track down the shifter from his friend, the previous owner. He doesn't k= now if it was a late shifter or an early one. >=20 > I'm trying to determine how to wire it in. >=20 > -- > Andrew >=20 >> On Sun, Nov 10, 2019, 4:33 PM Osborne, Paul via Mgs w= rote: >> I have been repair/ rebuilding Laycock trans for some time and have not b= een able to come up with any info on date build, if there is any. I have ask= ed these that have been doing it a lot longer than I and have been told if t= here is they do not know. Oh well, then again does it matter?=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> paul >>=20 >>> On Nov 10, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Hans Duinhoven via Mgs wrote: >>>=20 >>> Looks to be a fair policy.=20 >>> But I was a bit disappointed, that I was not allowed to make a picture o= f the GT=E2=80=99s entry in the BMIHT register with my simple camera. >>> All these entries car by car hand written into this book.=20 >>> And very easy to read. This book looked to me as a piece of art. >>> =20 >>> Cheers, >>> Hans >>> =20 >>> =20 >>> Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens PaulHunt73 via Mgs >>> Verzonden: zaterdag 9 november 2019 13:21 >>> Aan: Hans Duinhoven >>> CC: mgs@autox.team.net >>> Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission? >>> =20 >>> See https://www.britishmotormuseum.co.uk/archive/access-the-archive-reco= rds >>> =20 >>> If you don't ask you don't get :o) >>>> ---------- Original Message ----------=20 >>>> From: Hans Duinhoven =20 >>>> To: 'PaulHunt73' =20 >>>> Cc: mgs@autox.team.net=20 >>>> Date: 09 November 2019 at 10:20=20 >>>> Subject: RE: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission?=20 >>>>=20 >>>>> =E2=80=9Ctrawling through the Heritage archive yourself=E2=80=9D=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> I wonder if they let you.=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> During our visit these guys were quite strict what was allowed and not= .=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> DIY in the archives is not likely to happen I think.=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> =20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Cheers,=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Hans >>>>>=20 >>>>> =20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> Van: PaulHunt73 [mailto:paulhunt73@virginmedia.com]=20 >>>>> Verzonden: zaterdag 9 november 2019 10:55 >>>>> Aan: Hans Duinhoven >>>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission?=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> =20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> No info on gearbox or OD dating in either my Clausager book or Heritag= e certificates. You might get the info from Overdrive Repair Services in Sh= effield who are ex-Laycock people, failing that I suspect trawling through t= he Heritage archive yourself would be the only other option. >>>>>=20 >>>>> =20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> PaulH. >>>>>=20 >>>>>> ----- Original Message -----=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> =20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> This site may be useful for this kind of information.=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> https://www.britishmotormuseum.co.uk/archive/heritage-certificates >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> After completion of the restauration of my MG BGT in 2000, I ordered t= he BMIHT Heritage Certificate.=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> The kind of details you are looking for are likely in the register.=20= >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> Perhaps another source could by the Clausager book Original MGB:=20 >>>>>>=20 >>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Original-MGB-Restorers-Roadster-1962-80/dp/190= 6133182 >>>>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>> =20 >>>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>>=20 >>> Mgs@autox.team.net >>> Donate: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__www.team.n= et_donate.html&d=3DDwICAg&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3D= j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3DhjUS2GMSWoKP4QYJgS6d4uPka2vb= libLhoU6AZUfABE&s=3DQiqKn0fpLSGy_IpXIPh4k1brENTBW_xmfSjEq5ngJLU&e=3D=20 >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>=20 >>> Archive: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__www.team.= net_pipermail_mgs&d=3DDwICAg&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU= &r=3Dj_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3DhjUS2GMSWoKP4QYJgS6d4uP= ka2vblibLhoU6AZUfABE&s=3DrJD1Y7tge2qnyFJcrNwA0MQ3LBxpQ8K72EITTONX4Pw&e=3D h= ttps://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__autox.team.net_archive&= d=3DDwICAg&c=3Dkbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK0-rtrtcKZ= 8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=3DhjUS2GMSWoKP4QYJgS6d4uPka2vblibLhoU6AZUfA= BE&s=3DVKplZ4FI3arFpge-e5_n_7HFGM4qQjn92Ce9XxpS9ds&e=3D=20 >>>=20 >>> Unsubscribe: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=3Dhttp-3A__autox= .team.net_mailman_options_mgs_paul-40ece.rochester.edu&d=3DDwICAg&c=3Dkbmfwr= 1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=3Dj_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv5= 7WMn_czag&m=3DhjUS2GMSWoKP4QYJgS6d4uPka2vblibLhoU6AZUfABE&s=3Dsb0GoKNU8SWW9Y= 8mT1czhJ_4lURtmB_9gqhltshG_QQ&e=3D=20 >>=20 >>> Paul Osborne >>> Department of Electrical and Computer Eng >>> University of Rochester=20 >>> 201 Hopeman Building RC >>> Rochester NY 14627 >>>=20 >> 585-275-5226 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >>=20 >> Mgs@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>=20 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >>=20 >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/lundgren@byu.net > _______________________________________________ >=20 > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >=20 > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh@gmail.com --Apple-Mail-832B7F51-4A46-4662-8FB9-53139D430865 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
&nb= sp; If you have the two-function switch to right side of steering colu= mn, it will handle wipers and the OD. Have a go at the switch to see i= f wipers work when switch is near to steering wheel and when it is pushed to= ward fascia. If the switch has two positions, the OD will be in the pu= lled toward steering wheel notch. There is a yellow wire on passenger side o= f engine space that is the OD control wire. Check it for 12V, ignition on, s= witch in both positions.
When the O= D arrives, use ohmmeter to see if power flows through the OD=E2=80=99s switc= h in 3rd and 4th speeds. Your new OD may be 4th only, but when they ar= e apart they can be modified to be like the earlier ones, 3rd & 4th, whi= ch someone may have done.
Check the= se things to be certain of what you actually have. In 40 years, there is no t= elling what changes a previous owner has made.
&= nbsp; Wise owners suggest installing a fuse in the yellow-wire connections, 1= 0A will do.
While you are at it, a 10A fu= se in the white wire circuit to fuel pump is good also.
Bob

On Nov 10, 20= 19, at 6:43 PM, Andrew Lundgren via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:

Not so much. It will be a a bit still u= ntil the transmission arrives. (Freight from NY to UT) I'm just trying to fi= gure out which shifter it should have had as well as which gears it should w= ork on.

I'm going t= o be putting it into a 78, but the current owner is still trying to track do= wn the shifter from his friend, the previous owner. He doesn't know if it wa= s a late shifter or an early one.

I'm trying to determine how to wire it in.
--
Andrew

On Sun, Nov 10= , 2019, 4:33 PM Osborne, Paul via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:

I have been repair/ rebuilding Laycock trans for some time and have not been= able to come up with any info on date build, if there is any. I have asked t= hese that have been doing it a lot longer than I and have been told if there= is they do not know. Oh well, then again does it matter?

paul

On Nov 10, 2019, at 12:58 PM, Hans Duinhoven via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.= net> wrote:

Looks to be a fair policy.

But I was a bit disappointed, that I was not allowed t= o make a picture of the GT=E2=80=99s entry in the BMIHT register with my sim= ple camera.

All these entries car by car hand written into this bo= ok.

And very easy to read. This book looked to me as a pie= ce of art.

Cheers,

Hans

Van:<= /b> = Mgs [mailto:m= gs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens PaulHunt73 via Mgs
Verzonden: zaterdag 9 november 2019 13:21
Aan: Hans Duinhoven
CC: mgs@autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/= D transmission?

See https://www.britishmotor= museum.co.uk/archive/access-the-archive-records

If you don't ask you don't get :o)<= /u>

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Hans Duinhoven <= h.duinhoven@planet.nl>
To: 'PaulHunt73' <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com>
Cc: mgs@au= tox.team.net
Date: 09 November 2019 at 10:20
Subject: RE: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission? =

=E2=80=9Ctrawling through the Heritage archiv= e yourself=E2=80=9D

I wonder if they let you. <= /span>

During our visit these guys were quite strict= what was allowed and not.

DIY in the archives is not likely to happen I= think.



Cheers,

Hans



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Verzonden: zaterdag 9 november 2019 10:55
Aan: Hans Duinhoven
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmissio= n?

No info on gearbox or OD dating in either my C= lausager book or Heritage certificates. You might get the info fr= om Overdrive Repair Services in Sheffield who are ex-Laycock people, failing= that I suspect trawling through the Heritage archive yourself would be the only other option.=

PaulH.

----- Original M= essage -----

This site may be useful for this kind of information.

htt= ps://www.britishmotormuseum.co.uk/archive/heritage-certificates

After completion of the restauration of my MG BGT in 2000, I ordered t= he BMIHT Heritage Certificate.

The kind of details you are looking for are likely in the register.

Perhaps another source could by the Clausager book Original MGB:

https://www.amazon.com/Original-MGB-Restorers-Roadster-1962-80/= dp/1906133182

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= --Apple-Mail-832B7F51-4A46-4662-8FB9-53139D430865-- --===============5650563710996576040== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============5650563710996576040==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Nov 16 02:01:49 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF38CA05CA for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 02:01:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-3.server.virginmedia.net (unknown [80.0.253.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E83A026C for ; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 01:59:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from paul ([82.34.187.196]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id VtvNipx3fMk4gVtvPiKMON; Sat, 16 Nov 2019 08:59:29 +0000 a=IyPoZeiKMU40TSCrbcRMyQ==:17 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9eCz8QiPQQb5KqYmc7kA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=w4hGWPy499b7D7pFJ2sA:9 a=mczRSax_0AS658x-:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 s=meg.feb2017; t=1573894769; bh=Av4I5w79Me+Pq4weoXBMLc8yrAHQZswAjbhV9x7R2JE=; h=From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date; b=ClN8R274d/JFsBHVxcdi3Iyxry8sTowVvTHOhsE6bunEFcEmyw7goaoRYChb/kLQj jx6p7zhZ261L+DdjnqYXyYuC1e+ebwqWQRd+LDUH27/eNSY9qX0VwOTjAlq6dJI2+Q y9UPwGXGFKI8Gs5T7b6tXopNj+CkKrFYvGOA1r5oXEe5ijcfwvl5n4vt6VRZA42NqC kgEkZ+k2+9O/7ejLOZ9OpyFHvU5xbgVrQNxIofD3vkkVq4L96hzg/6Yh+UwZGi4nHq +tTcW2uksQ3a36GjGZXL7ZvyGPhX4JWf+0tjb/15rmXwfNUbCvnZYRrO8acijOLByH UjChbinCU5mfQ== To: "Hans Duinhoven" References: <005901d596e7$47e21bb0$d7a65310$@planet.nl> <147644243.223232.1573301919235@mail2.virginmedia.com> <5CC04AB9B7164DEEB5A149BD957F6986@paul> <005601d597f0$7073cc40$515b64c0$@planet.nl> <3E2624E4-4D1D-4E71-BBF2-CB6F0DD7A6B2@ur.rochester.edu> <4B3A3A04927A4478BAAF17B0DA7AFBAD@paul> <4318b77a-b906-0429-3761-647a95225615@twc.com> <38EA6E6F-FD06-43EE-A1A5-E8A87A34F0C4@sonic.net> <3192E165-1388-45AE-AF46-9A114BB11CEE@sonic.net> <1F04728A8D77449F8EA64CEC088B45AB@paul> <1d611eaa-c715-bf77-ab97-c284a9558be8@bell.net> <002b01d59a49$246beac0$6d43c040$@planet.nl> <87E81A7976944B6A8BCC57B6614F7924@paul> <005801d59b13$70629350$5127b9f0$@planet.nl> <002401d59bcf$decb7930$9c626b90$@planet.nl> Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2019 08:59:36 -0000 oUlpG0HxrCnwqH+L8iCwp3/t6GbgOKOQM0p2d4OOP6ex+dfOki1itJvznYrIRRJ9c9ubia5YRSnMAXLG3CNOU6jjJvxnTdy/ZpI= Subject: Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission? From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Cc: mgs@autox.team.net Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============6976530703372553020== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01D59C5C.2BAC3CD0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01D59C5C.2BAC3CD0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's progress for you. Mine has a door and ignition key as well as = the plipper so I can just keep the spare plipper in the car. Doesn't have to be the glovebox, can be concealed in many places around = the car, I've done that with both the MGBs. And there are places where = one can put a magnetic box that is on top of a surface rather than = underneath, and can be reached from outside the car. They are more likely to smash the window on recent cars to plug = something into the diagnostic socket. A pal lost a car like that, done = in the right place it didn't even set off the alarm. The Police advise owners with modern cars to get a steering wheel bar, = they are still available even though they date back 20 years or more. = My pal has one now, but I doubt many do. PaulH. ----- Original Message -----=20 =E2=80=9CKeep the spare in the glove box?=E2=80=9D you wrote Paul. I do not think this is a good idea. The key is a key-less start enabling =E2=80=9Ckey=E2=80=9D. So leaving a spare key in the car makes it a thief very easy to get = away with my car, once he is in the car! Just smashing a window will do the job. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01D59C5C.2BAC3CD0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
That's progress for you. Mine has a door and = ignition=20 key as well as the plipper so I can just keep the spare plipper in the=20 car.

Doesn't have to be the glovebox, can be concealed in = many=20 places around the car, I've done that with both the MGBs. And = there=20 are places where one can put a magnetic box that is on top of a surface = rather=20 than underneath, and can be reached from outside the car.

They are more likely to smash the window on = recent cars=20 to plug something into the diagnostic socket. A pal lost a car = like that,=20 done in the right place it didn't even set off the alarm.

The Police advise owners with modern cars to get a = steering=20 wheel bar, they are still available even though they date back 20 years = or=20 more. My pal has one now, but I doubt many do.

PaulH.

----- Original Message -----

=E2=80=9CKeep the spare in the glove box?=E2=80=9D you = wrote=20 Paul.

I do not think this is a good idea.

The key is a key-less start enabling = =E2=80=9Ckey=E2=80=9D.

So leaving a spare key in the car makes it a thief very = easy to get=20 away with my car, once he is in the car!

Just smashing a window will do the = job.

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From: Charley Robinson via Mgs Cc: mglist Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============7776462410209192351== boundary="------------45FE91A62F41DE81454C9B93" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------45FE91A62F41DE81454C9B93 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My '07 Prius has a metal door key slotted into the fob. After you get into the car you plug the fob into a slot in the dash and then press the "Start" button and she fires up. CR On 11/13/2019 2:37 PM, Dan DiBiase via Mgs wrote: > Isn't there a 'hidden' key in the key fob, Hans? My Mazda CX-5 has > push-button start, but there is a key inside the fob that can be > removed in case of the battery in the fob dying..... So the the least, > you can always get in the car. > > And in that scenario, if you use the key fob itself to push the start > button, the car will start.... > > Dan D > Central NJ USA > http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/ > > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:38 PM Hans Duinhoven via Mgs > > So true. This week my wife hardly could get the doors unlocked of > our business Mazda 6 sw. reason was that the battery of the key > became empty. Stupid thing does that without a warning. One should > carry the spare key with them, in order to prevent such thing > making someone stranded in the middle of nowhere… > > Cheers, > > Hans > > 71 BGT where everything is manual, unless operated by foot > > *Van:*Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net > *Verzonden:* woensdag 13 november 2019 16:46 > *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission? > > Hello folks, > > OMG. Isn't it amazing how current technology demands > complications. Used to be you put in a key turned it and "broom > broom". Now is having something in your pocket, and switching on > and then pushing 'Start', But then everything these days is > "marketing groomed". My new radio has oodles of "features" (most > of which I do not understand) but a lousy weak station reception - > my $40 portable radio is MUCH better IN the car that the $$$$$$ > "car" radio !!!!!! > > Barrie - he of MGB GT V8 fame:-) > > On 11/12/2019 12:19 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote: > > As an interface designer, I am puzzled by the “push for on” > solution. It seems somehow inappropriate as well as > unnecessarily complex. > > Overdrive seems to me to be a function where a clear on/off > toggle is the natural mode of engagement. Sometimes I want it > on, sometimes off, and I want to know which mode it is in. > > But then, I think the “start button” on modern cars is > idiotic. So YMMV. > > -- > > Max Heim > > '66 MGB > > On Nov 12, 2019, at 5:43 AM, Charley Robinson > > I have a neat little module that does as you describe > except it has no warning light. It is plugged into the > wiring between the manual OD switch and the transmission > switches. In the case of my CBB it's sitting on the shelf > on the passenger side of the heater box. It's all solid > state, has never given me any trouble. I bought the > thing on line a few years ago but I don't remember the > name of the seller. I absolutely love the thing! > > CR > > On 11/12/2019 2:26 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs wrote: > > > > I got fed up with OD auto-engaging as I changed from > 2nd to 3rd so built a circuit that once out of an OD > gear, it locked it out semi-permanently until I turned > the manual switch off and back on again. That has a > warning light to say it has been locked out, rather > than one to say it is engaged. More info > herehttp://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/gearstext.htm#sequencer > > PaulH. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrob@bell.net > > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase@gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/charley38@twc.com --------------45FE91A62F41DE81454C9B93 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit My '07 Prius has a metal door key slotted into the fob. After you get into the car you plug the fob into a slot in the dash and then press the "Start" button and she fires up.

CR

On 11/13/2019 2:37 PM, Dan DiBiase via Mgs wrote:

Isn't there a 'hidden' key in the key fob, Hans? My Mazda CX-5 has push-button start, but there is a key inside the fob that can be removed in case of the battery in the fob dying..... So the the least, you can always get in the car.

And in that scenario, if you use the key fob itself to push the start button, the car will start....

Dan D

Central NJ USA

http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 12:38 PM Hans Duinhoven via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:

So true. This week my wife hardly could get the doors unlocked of our business Mazda 6 sw. reason was that the battery of the key became empty. Stupid thing does that without a warning. One should carry the spare key with them, in order to prevent such thing making someone stranded in the middle of nowhere…

Cheers,

Hans

71 BGT where everything is manual, unless operated by foot

Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces@autox.team.net] Namens Barrie Robinson via Mgs
Verzonden: woensdag 13 november 2019 16:46
Aan: mgs@autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Determine build date for an O/D transmission?

Hello folks,

OMG. Isn't it amazing how current technology demands complications. Used to be you put in a key turned it and "broom broom". Now is having something in your pocket, and switching on and then pushing 'Start', But then everything these days is "marketing groomed". My new radio has oodles of "features" (most of which I do not understand) but a lousy weak station reception - my $40 portable radio is MUCH better IN the car that the $$$$$$ "car" radio !!!!!!

Barrie - he of MGB GT V8 fame:-)

On 11/12/2019 12:19 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:

As an interface designer, I am puzzled by the “push for on” solution. It seems somehow inappropriate as well as unnecessarily complex.

Overdrive seems to me to be a function where a clear on/off toggle is the natural mode of engagement. Sometimes I want it on, sometimes off, and I want to know which mode it is in.

But then, I think the “start button” on modern cars is idiotic. So YMMV.

--

Max Heim

'66 MGB

On Nov 12, 2019, at 5:43 AM, Charley Robinson <Charley38@twc.com> wrote:

I have a neat little module that does as you describe except it has no warning light. It is plugged into the wiring between the manual OD switch and the transmission switches. In the case of my CBB it's sitting on the shelf on the passenger side of the heater box. It's all solid state, has never given me any trouble. I bought the thing on line a few years ago but I don't remember the name of the seller. I absolutely love the thing!

CR

On 11/12/2019 2:26 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs wrote:

I got fed up with OD auto-engaging as I changed from 2nd to 3rd so built a circuit that once out of an OD gear, it locked it out semi-permanently until I turned the manual switch off and back on again. That has a warning light to say it has been locked out, rather than one to say it is engaged. More info here http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/gearstext.htm#sequencer

PaulH.

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From: Mark J Bradakis via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net https://cars.ksl.com/listing/5933128?ad_cid=6 mjb. ps: I always wonder if my life would have been changed had my middle name been George instead of Joseph _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 20 15:30:50 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F381A07A9 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 15:30:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from sonic303-25.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (unknown [98.137.64.206]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B63A05D4 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 15:30:01 -0700 (MST) t=1574289000; bh=78EzqTSNmllkPCW2SszmkM1tjZaQDUdzuJHpkdnQJhE=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=uiNOepRL+rusHELG6IYDdTnwJa/yjyA9RXKAFASIbDoQZ3EG33SvGvafJWN6AdPNk+xahDpwtoKuGH8JxP0PLqDUMk3ZNWAPhWvgOy2RV2nCDqhq/1NPgm1ZgQfyxYpOLDsElx1sYsCTAQcdTeZrUK/g6TXL3CtfTwiWmCmJTMAbNMAknlw/2ImtbTr72j2qyRpIUT0VNO11GFbQ5qvqEvlcEK6pgg4Y7MpyDCOWZ04zYEecRvhMcuo7Ie4vH1AkLVdKDUCzF1PMMBLPJvLDtP7PKJuxnjyarC1x/mqbGPY3jm8c2MJSr2ujkp0xCon8aEs2AbXLeUMn8RcrmYNMAA== TZdhqGQfW16D6c6zXc057KhIYPxAGLa_efaoo5gnl.MhnR3uSp4lAzZweBaFFfPbfZaHTeZMNmii 2gHGSqHAETTdPPJvoS8yY.iaf1G1KKLBG7.XAjjB7Oqahc9_GvBBXddooRt9U8lO.WiFeME.9Qm5 v.h_tLcvuC4ms5icDC6iDjKwlC9gZ04TM1boqzt_kgUqaQ31LYGzKJxV5QnUPC.CaAKf4a8gWHTG F7pCAprgLpT0qaz68z6eVQNwl9DirkNPCmuSXx6blzAg_zluXU1gG29QSnCmrRK60QFbcNKzLes0 g2pC__U5eBP6keMvY2eC0ILwOEgrGJ1ce8ubDODNsJ0L1eJ.KEcb_gEbmw0xmhQZR0X7r3jZGgLj hAoH7xHbO9_Hv5VBrDFAbp6PNnHe6JO5EQE_98LvSFkxQO9EieMgRS1taMZ7EFCxzcdjpRt2Gw.E GKjNscIL4Z98fjX2bdjnHff.azwTPeTvXlwCJoY_eJ9n3d7oBDVPyk1cRP2nEPPrNzbDX01DnaeA ZQuJaDrpaICtVKnacsZJpiR0R.c2Ky5yWEmCKpSmLr26VaAeCCs6JM54FJ.MIb2uoudGAkcCaKrM vnvc3wohSntgAoqfUaQ6MsggIdcnS7w8IZ_ZrE0Xn5dbKITamS4aXelCeTo1oTXdX0DVUOs8etO. _oNP2aQxXigmtdZX9P4Fum95QL.6_i9MToLcpZ6GxTwax4Ilsu_gas7YVixQtm6Jj0MfRbMy9WbT rcEkJgYoSjQOeXioPs7bxT5UmI8hWpfZTTgNUuIq0FLYPaIiYMB3nEJUn9Bqf8gnJ0R0k.2ALXVE 9_C8UZ4o.wIOKLtcEoMQ_dAEJ5CfSQqndIYKJbOCYx3enOTJOXaNJ59.D04ciN9Sfr6cEzLCRoB7 HxvbNnotzwMb5VYsTkwP.5Ymzb6QzG4i1_9J4xe02Murt3VpUiXlFoFC1TyGeEaEPzfC4XJyaRND 4mOKsG5_QY2D7xVs74QAjSbN_YIg5X8.Z8GFruZZYN5Gqz_J5_10cRHI6_XoEm3XaewXsr2mi6IE 5StZ5nPnoaRHveCU.neKRWp9GaSx5.HvkUrvyqdo5PegSrVfqh3USrzCUsnnGX83lPFZtX_fk8qI yPoRuVeSK8bMMGQzXo5tfbS0UD_9_h6f42A62G2JeN3kcTRv4wEYO.gSoCuf9Hph5J8KoZw.hCzC nixpQoWK4erhU5HU5wEHAugDpaXiPKZP0gWbtk6Derv1iHGCyWkMq2q3kJ2S.B1gzCduH7X.kHfg wuKbvKfqWmeLFXoXGf9njFFX9GU1FWPAKxUK28LeoQ367J_rO0KA1j_A- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic303.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 22:30:00 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 22:29:56 +0000 (UTC) To: Mark J Bradakis References: <0ebaf31a-4e8d-f98c-d624-855e256b5c52@bradakis.com> x64; rv:70.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/70.0 Subject: Re: [Mgs] HOW much??? From: Jack Wheeler via Mgs Cc: MGs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2312050813195725994== boundary="----=_Part_4119645_264709241.1574288996535" ------=_Part_4119645_264709241.1574288996535 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Did they install an automatic transmission in 1964 (or any time for that m= anner)? Jack On Wednesday, November 20, 2019, 4:48:35 PM EST, Mark J Bradakis via Mg= s wrote: =20 =20 =20 https://cars.ksl.com/listing/5933128?ad_cid=3D6 mjb. ps: I always wonder if my life would have been changed had my middle=20 name been George instead of Joseph _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/jwheeler1947@yahoo.c= om =20 ------=_Part_4119645_264709241.1574288996535 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Did they install an automati= c transmission in 1964 (or any time for that manner)?

Jac= k

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=20
On Wednesday, November 20, 2019, 4:48:35 PM EST, Mark J= Bradakis via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:

https://cars.ksl.com/listing/5933128?ad_cid=3D6

mjb.
ps: I always wonder if my life would have been cha= nged had my middle
name been George instead of J= oseph

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------=_Part_4119645_264709241.1574288996535-- --===============2312050813195725994== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============2312050813195725994==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 20 15:42:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AFC8A07D5 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 15:42:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-cmomta03.email.rr.com (unknown [107.14.73.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D909A0463 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 15:42:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.121] ([70.122.54.48]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id XYfziIsEwpRIkXYg2iDlHt; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 22:42:22 +0000 To: Jack Wheeler , Mark J Bradakis References: <0ebaf31a-4e8d-f98c-d624-855e256b5c52@bradakis.com> <2036685722.4119646.1574288996537@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 16:42:19 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.9.0 Content-Language: en-US 2x8WFCb+J6Ok/E8BRgEh96nk+WSNXaRpXTRpgXUO7e1vPNp89fkNuxJ1erBVz9Ka2vAFo2vSHSMmig7/u8NbcDyDARnEYqcAvMB5moXPNWxM07EUosQYLiaG fIBiB5mbsr1IxTA+C8AxIQ== Subject: Re: [Mgs] HOW much??? From: Charley Robinson via Mgs Cc: MGs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============7058660956582887951== boundary="------------9EFE8C78AB55C800D3125CD4" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------9EFE8C78AB55C800D3125CD4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I noticed that. They don't know what they have. Or what it's worth. CR On 11/20/2019 4:29 PM, Jack Wheeler via Mgs wrote: > Did they install an automatic transmission in 1964 (or any time for > that manner)? > > Jack > > On Wednesday, November 20, 2019, 4:48:35 PM EST, Mark J Bradakis via > Mgs wrote: > > > > https://cars.ksl.com/listing/5933128?ad_cid=6 > > mjb. > > ps: I always wonder if my life would have been changed had my middle > name been George instead of Joseph > > > _______________________________________________ > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/jwheeler1947@yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/charley38@twc.com --------------9EFE8C78AB55C800D3125CD4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I noticed that. They don't know what they have. Or what it's worth.

CR

On 11/20/2019 4:29 PM, Jack Wheeler via Mgs wrote:

Did they install an automatic transmission in 1964 (or any time for that manner)?

Jack

On Wednesday, November 20, 2019, 4:48:35 PM EST, Mark J Bradakis via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:

https://cars.ksl.com/listing/5933128?ad_cid=6

mjb.

ps: I always wonder if my life would have been changed had my middle

name been George instead of Joseph

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--------------9EFE8C78AB55C800D3125CD4-- --===============7058660956582887951== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============7058660956582887951==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 20 15:48:36 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D761BA07B7 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 15:48:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (unknown [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62FB7A028E for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 15:48:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E6E11C0159 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 15:48:33 -0700 (MST) To: MGs References: <0ebaf31a-4e8d-f98c-d624-855e256b5c52@bradakis.com> <2036685722.4119646.1574288996537@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 15:48:33 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.1.1 Content-Language: en-US Subject: Re: [Mgs] HOW much??? From: Mark J Bradakis via Mgs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net On 11/20/19 3:29 PM, Jack Wheeler wrote: > Did they install an automatic transmission in 1964 (or any time for > that manner)? > And did you notice the body style listed? mjb. _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 20 16:30:21 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F25A7A07C4 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 16:30:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from d.mail.sonic.net (unknown [64.142.111.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0DBA03F2 for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 16:30:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.68] (172-5-155-8.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [172.5.155.8]) (authenticated bits=0) by d.mail.sonic.net (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id xAKNUFOG003329 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 20 Nov 2019 15:30:15 -0800 Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2019 15:30:14 -0800 References: <0ebaf31a-4e8d-f98c-d624-855e256b5c52@bradakis.com> <2036685722.4119646.1574288996537@mail.yahoo.com> <2169a62f-bf32-3b20-8073-53c9f7798762@bradakis.com> To: MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] HOW much??? From: Max Heim via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5402958444901325881== boundary="Apple-Mail=_724B21E2-E8A2-482B-AFDB-D9F0A6F43786" --Apple-Mail=_724B21E2-E8A2-482B-AFDB-D9F0A6F43786 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 Actually, if you click on the link to the dealer=E2=80=99s site, they = have more photos and a correct listing. No, it is not an automatic. It = seems to be a pretty decent looking, at least partially restored, = original spec 64. It is a classic car dealer, though they have loose definition of = =E2=80=9Cclassic=E2=80=9D. -- Max Heim '66 MGB > On Nov 20, 2019, at 2:48 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Mgs = wrote: >=20 > On 11/20/19 3:29 PM, Jack Wheeler wrote: >> Did they install an automatic transmission in 1964 (or any time for = that manner)? >>=20 > And did you notice the body style listed? >=20 > mjb. >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ >=20 > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs = http://autox.team.net/archive >=20 > Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim@sonic.net >=20 --Apple-Mail=_724B21E2-E8A2-482B-AFDB-D9F0A6F43786 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 Actually, if you click on the link to the dealer=E2=80=99s = site, they have more photos and a correct listing. No, it is not an = automatic. It seems to be a pretty decent looking, at least partially = restored, original spec 64.

It is a classic car dealer, though they have loose definition = of =E2=80=9Cclassic=E2=80=9D.

--
Max Heim
'66 MGB

On Nov 20, 2019, at 2:48 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> = wrote:

On 11/20/19 3:29 PM, Jack Wheeler wrote:
Did they install an = automatic transmission in 1964 (or any time for that manner)?

And did you notice the body style = listed?

mjb.

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From: Barney Gaylord via Mgs Cc: MG List Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1820600159673409852== boundary="=====================_181682281==.ALT" --=====================_181682281==.ALT Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Automatic only fits in 1968 or later=20 cars. Tunnel is too small an pre-1968 cars. At 06:49 PM 11/20/2019, Jim Ray via Mgs wrote: >They made a few automatics using a Borg Warner=20 >T35 gearbox. Same one that was in the MGC. Pretty common gearbox for the= time. >On Nov 20, 2019 6:30 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote: >Actually, if you click on the link to the=20 >dealer=E2=80=99s site, they have more photos and a=20 >correct listing. No, it is not an automatic. It=20 >seems to be a pretty decent looking, at least=20 >partially restored, original spec 64. > >It is a classic car dealer, though they have=20 >loose definition of =E2=80=9Cclassic=E2=80=9D. >-- >Max Heim >'66 MGB >On Nov 20, 2019, at 2:48 PM, Mark J Bradakis via=20 > >On 11/20/19 3:29 PM, Jack Wheeler wrote: >Did they install an automatic transmission in=20 >1964 (or any time for that manner)? > >And did you notice the body style listed? > >mjb. --=====================_181682281==.ALT Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Automatic only fits in 1968 or later cars. Tunnel is too small an pre-1968 cars.

At 06:49 PM 11/20/2019, Jim Ray via Mgs wrote:

They made a few automatics us= ing a Borg Warner T35 gearbox. Same one that was in the MGC. Pretty common gearbox for the time.

On Nov 20, 2019 6:30 PM, Max Heim via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:

Actually, if you click on the link to the dealer=E2=80=99s site, they ha= ve more photos and a correct listing. No, it is not an automatic. It seems to be a pretty decent looking, at least partially restored, original spec 64.

It is a classic car dealer, though they have loose definition of =E2=80=9Cclassic=E2=80=9D.

--

Max Heim

'66 MGB

On Nov 20, 2019, at 2:48 PM, Mark J Bradakis via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> wrote:

On 11/20/19 3:29 PM, Jack Wheeler wrote:

Did they install an automatic transmission in 1964 (or any time for that manner)?

And did you notice the body style listed?

mjb.

--=====================_181682281==.ALT-- --===============1820600159673409852== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============1820600159673409852==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 26 12:10:55 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9457A078B for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 12:10:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-io1-f48.google.com (unknown [209.85.166.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8109FA0793 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 12:10:46 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-io1-f48.google.com with SMTP id u24so20133741iob.5 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 11:10:46 -0800 (PST) d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=se/nLrJhxZ90aSg4+nUre0xcE9cUMLGszMhqjhA1E/0=; b=Dl4Bv9/q78vrI2SZL1WYB7LeytwUJ8R49wOYSi8YyxfCOSpquBeXmYRjiR6RVrA/dY hyAlATASMWkMRKxgYx0J6Iu/eVZ518ioSWN4PxcUro+YzCuCT+LxFqqS84j/mpX8FDlW /qBNEQ2szPNXHu/hIf06Ah82d/4eao5EVBTmYQHQQyfnGlCNYemX7+CixzWB4hITROCo 8NK52Mt+SwnuhWrbyeXhV77gFCjFJTbHWAxNQ7XF3GLs9j2yOsFG7Y0ZP5ownGy/DLz3 5DheYmMbd8Bh4CohjvuznF3XpfaCrVKwawI8MMYskWDUkqwCJC9BEt3vf18LXARTG4KZ REPQ== 9aEvVQe/eXCvqdblUyvCt1P49Yx/6uk= Tue, 26 Nov 2019 11:10:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-io1-f49.google.com (mail-io1-f49.google.com. [209.85.166.49]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k4sm2824404iof.61.2019.11.26.11.10.44 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 26 Nov 2019 11:10:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-io1-f49.google.com with SMTP id z26so18348535iot.8 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 11:10:44 -0800 (PST) Tue, 26 Nov 2019 11:10:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 12:10:33 -0700 To: MG List Subject: [Mgs] My O/D arrived! From: Andrew Lundgren via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7887173251262303945== --000000000000120cae059844a30d I purchased an O/D from a fellow in NY. It arrived via freight yesterday and is now in my garage. I've owned a '70 B since '96. I got a parts car several years later and took the O/D from that and put in my '70. I have always been happy to have it. I purchased another B ('78) about 5-6 years ago for my then teens to drive. (How did I end up with another white MGB???) This one did not have an O/D, as they rarely do. When a blue tag turned up at a reasonable price I bought it. The guy I bought it from was going to put it in an MGA. He got it from a friend who.... yeah... It does not have the shifter lever at all, so I don't know if it is '77 or later or not. I'm planning on putting the O/D switch on the dash in the '78 auxiliary switch location using a standard '78 switch. So now I will be pulling the engine on the '78. It's been a while since I've had an engine out. While the engine is out I am planning on doing: -clutch and throwout bearing (on sale a few weeks ago on moss) -speedo cable -rear main seal -motor mounts -water pump I am considering the timing chain with a duplex, camshaft, pushrods and lifters. I will also clean up the engine bay while it is out. (the good thing about a white engine bay is you can get away with rattle can paint pretty easily in there, the bad part is it is white...) Anything else I should do/consider while the engine is out? Thanks!!! -- Andrew --000000000000120cae059844a30d Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I purchased an O/D from a fellow in NY.=C2=A0 It arrived v= ia freight=C2=A0yesterday and is now in my garage.

I'= ;ve owned a '70 B since '96. I got a parts=C2=A0car several years l= ater and took the O/D from that and put in my '70.=C2=A0I have always b= een happy to have it.

I purchased another B ('= 78) about=C2=A05-6 years ago for my then teens to drive. (How did I end up = with another white MGB???) This one did not have an O/D, as they rarely do.= When a blue tag turned up at a reasonable price=C2=A0I bought it.

The guy I bought it from was going to put it in an MGA. He= got it from a friend who.... yeah... It does not have the shifter lever at= all, so I don't know if it is '77 or later or not.
<= br>
I'm planning on putting the O/D switch on the dash in the= '78 auxiliary switch location using a standard '78 switch.

So now I will be pulling the engine on the '78.= =C2=A0

It's been a while since I'= ve had an engine out.=C2=A0

While the engine= is out I am planning on doing:
-clutch and throwout bearing (on = sale a few weeks ago on moss)
-speedo cable
-rear m= ain seal
-motor mounts=C2=A0
-water pump

=
I am considering the timing chain with a duplex, camshaft, pushr= ods and lifters.

I will also clean up the engine b= ay while it is out. (the good thing about a white engine bay is you can get= away with rattle can paint pretty easily in there, the bad part is it is w= hite...)

Anything else I should do/consider wh= ile the engine is out?

Thanks!!!

--
Andrew

--000000000000120cae059844a30d-- --===============7887173251262303945== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============7887173251262303945==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 26 12:25:30 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB93A0A4B for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 12:25:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from d.mail.sonic.net (unknown [64.142.111.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8BCA09DD for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 12:25:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.68] (172-5-155-8.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [172.5.155.8]) (authenticated bits=0) by d.mail.sonic.net (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id xAQJPPAk021906 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 11:25:25 -0800 Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 11:25:25 -0800 References: To: MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] My O/D arrived! From: Max Heim via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1338144665458891862== boundary="Apple-Mail=_1E03E543-BDF5-4809-9F0F-8A06F43B20AF" --Apple-Mail=_1E03E543-BDF5-4809-9F0F-8A06F43B20AF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 Sounds pretty much what I did.=20 Add the transmission mounts =E2=80=94 they are usually worse than the = motor mounts. I also cleaned up and rattle-canned the motor. -- Max Heim '66 MGB > On Nov 26, 2019, at 11:10 AM, Andrew Lundgren via Mgs = wrote: >=20 > I purchased an O/D from a fellow in NY. It arrived via freight = yesterday and is now in my garage. >=20 > I've owned a '70 B since '96. I got a parts car several years later = and took the O/D from that and put in my '70. I have always been happy = to have it. >=20 > I purchased another B ('78) about 5-6 years ago for my then teens to = drive. (How did I end up with another white MGB???) This one did not = have an O/D, as they rarely do. When a blue tag turned up at a = reasonable price I bought it. >=20 > The guy I bought it from was going to put it in an MGA. He got it from = a friend who.... yeah... It does not have the shifter lever at all, so I = don't know if it is '77 or later or not. >=20 > I'm planning on putting the O/D switch on the dash in the '78 = auxiliary switch location using a standard '78 switch. >=20 > So now I will be pulling the engine on the '78.=20 >=20 > It's been a while since I've had an engine out.=20 >=20 > While the engine is out I am planning on doing: > -clutch and throwout bearing (on sale a few weeks ago on moss) > -speedo cable > -rear main seal > -motor mounts=20 > -water pump >=20 > I am considering the timing chain with a duplex, camshaft, pushrods = and lifters. >=20 > I will also clean up the engine bay while it is out. (the good thing = about a white engine bay is you can get away with rattle can paint = pretty easily in there, the bad part is it is white...) >=20 > Anything else I should do/consider while the engine is out? >=20 > Thanks!!! >=20 > -- > Andrew >=20 > _______________________________________________ --Apple-Mail=_1E03E543-BDF5-4809-9F0F-8A06F43B20AF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 Sounds pretty much what I did.

Add the transmission mounts =E2=80=94 = they are usually worse than the motor mounts.

I also cleaned up and rattle-canned the = motor.

--
Max Heim
'66 MGB

On Nov 26, 2019, at 11:10 AM, Andrew Lundgren via Mgs <mgs@autox.team.net> = wrote:

I purchased an O/D from a fellow in NY. It = arrived via freight yesterday and is now in my garage.

I've owned a '70 B since = '96. I got a parts car several years later and took the O/D from = that and put in my '70. I have always been happy to have = it.

I = purchased another B ('78) about 5-6 years ago for my then teens to = drive. (How did I end up with another white MGB???) This one did not = have an O/D, as they rarely do. When a blue tag turned up at a = reasonable price I bought it.

The guy I bought it from was going to = put it in an MGA. He got it from a friend who.... yeah... It does not = have the shifter lever at all, so I don't know if it is '77 or later or = not.

I'm planning on putting the O/D switch on the dash in the '78 = auxiliary switch location using a standard '78 switch.

So = now I will be pulling the engine on the '78.

It's been a while since I've had an engine = out.

While the engine is out I am planning on doing:
-clutch and throwout bearing (on sale a few weeks ago on = moss)
-speedo cable
-rear main seal
-motor = mounts
-water pump

I am considering the timing chain with = a duplex, camshaft, pushrods and lifters.

I will also clean up the engine bay = while it is out. (the good thing about a white engine bay is you can get = away with rattle can paint pretty easily in there, the bad part is it is = white...)

Anything else I should do/consider while the engine is = out?

Thanks!!!

--
Andrew

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= --Apple-Mail=_1E03E543-BDF5-4809-9F0F-8A06F43B20AF-- --===============1338144665458891862== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============1338144665458891862==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Nov 26 19:47:14 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 182BAA0A03 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 19:47:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (unknown [173.201.192.106]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6EBAA05E0 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 19:46:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from TR3a ([70.113.144.162]) by :SMTPAUTH: with ESMTPSA id ZnLuixUdMQS0RZnLvi75Ln; Tue, 26 Nov 2019 19:46:51 -0700 To: Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2019 20:46:52 -0600 Thread-Index: AdWkzMAiANrcYBF+SxuhTLI8/LK8Wg== Content-Language: en-us WnhAZ0RcyCSzSzjWsnUMUBIagZMpYqQZRV0OfwbIqvJWvmvmMbDuzee4 Subject: [Mgs] mga front splash panel From: dave via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============0114013545063339945== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01D5A49A.A224B090" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01D5A49A.A224B090 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I need 4! Neither MGA that I am working on has one. To buy one they are $85 to $100 each!!! Anyone made them or have a pattern? They are just bent steel panels, with a tricky shape to cut. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01D5A49A.A224B090 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I need 4! Neither MGA that I am working on has = one.

To buy one they are $85 to $100 = each!!!

Anyone made them or have a pattern? They are = just bent steel panels, with a tricky shape to = cut.
------=_NextPart_000_0001_01D5A49A.A224B090-- --===============0114013545063339945== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============0114013545063339945==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 27 02:12:00 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E32A078B for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 02:12:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-5.server.virginmedia.net (unknown [80.0.253.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AD1EA0666 for ; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 02:11:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from paul ([82.34.187.196]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id ZtMFi3dHiXXDWZtMFiM0QF; Wed, 27 Nov 2019 09:11:36 +0000 a=IyPoZeiKMU40TSCrbcRMyQ==:17 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=pxnlQwqvAAAA:8 a=YX9EFyo7BOvfV6YoSrkA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=TpySgTrHpk8A:10 a=RyYrkreLyJU4SjOi-zgA:9 a=pMeky7d5junkSTQQ:21 a=1SSsdvx7gJjd4qno:21 a=08KC8GueYEjNGdrR:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=egKMGkq-_7m75_muvWdA:22 s=meg.feb2017; t=1574845896; bh=G5KkdTus+I6vP7DMx1jPAAfSWnoU7u/nhYqQ6XPYjUc=; h=From:To:References:Subject:Date; b=R0lIexsyTdkJLt7N1cTi3DexGcmyRiovEQABMKmg9iS7xPcBbFxnwMVcaKD5VR2+P W+xuyXiRsQEKEVOyM+eI34CLgww+S9o7Y7k6w73SskZhyooZGb1y7eAszANQAe80ap P0xviWbFxALveXOTv0R5LGg8Sk4FQaq7fmT1SH3dvySsRBZahZSxCQB1/gLP4ksLnz M1QvW0q5e2pHIp0F0mgjnV8ql8XHz7FeWrj3bciNv85ENySRdDjMkuRXDHI2R/iUfg XRaoxcccK4IjwaY0WO5Ck7tryiFYaISlbMtjfdvB7q1LA2uWBsG9SnqVHv/H6098vW mTEQ6O3aTSr8g== To: "Andrew Lundgren" , "MG List" References: Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2019 08:53:27 -0000 qw65Wnn3ePsvuFklSLTN2W0EpYTdsGcNDLg+AUDXFQIB88ryoo/Hb1rBSspG1kmxLSDXiU6GEpyJ4g== Subject: Re: [Mgs] My O/D arrived! From: PaulHunt73 via Mgs Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============3150694670449875482== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005D_01D5A500.2273DFE0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01D5A500.2273DFE0 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I assume this is a gearbox complete with OD, and not just an OD. Quite = a bit of work to add an OD to a non-OD box. As mentioned earlier if it's a blue label OD then it's the correct OD = for a rubber bumper B, regardless. There was no difference in the OD = itself between earlier rubber bumpers and 77 and later, only in the = electrical switching which is all external to the OD itself. You have = the choice of whether to put the original lever back and have the manual = switch somewhere else, or source a 77 and later lever with switch in the = knob. If it's off a pre-77 then it will give you OD in 3rd and 4th, but if off = a 77 or later then probably on 4th only. If the sub-harness has come = with the gearbox then that will give you a clue as there were = connections for both the lockout and manual switches on 77 and later, = but only for the lockout switch before that. More info on selector = levers and plungers that control that here = http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/gswitch.htm#3 Do you have TCSA now? Do you need to keep it for emissions reasons? = That may determine whether you can have OD on 3rd and 4th or will need = to restrict it to 4th only. PaulH. ----- Original Message -----=20 I purchased an O/D from a fellow in NY. It arrived via freight = yesterday and is now in my garage. The guy I bought it from was going to put it in an MGA. He got it from = a friend who.... yeah... It does not have the shifter lever at all, so I = don't know if it is '77 or later or not. ------=_NextPart_000_005D_01D5A500.2273DFE0 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
I assume this is a gearbox complete with OD, and not = just an=20 OD. Quite a bit of work to add an OD to a non-OD box.

As mentioned earlier if it's a blue label OD then = it's the=20 correct OD for a rubber bumper B, regardless. There was no = difference in=20 the OD itself between earlier rubber bumpers and 77 and later, only in = the=20 electrical switching which is all external to the OD itself. You = have the=20 choice of whether to put the original lever back and have the manual = switch=20 somewhere else, or source a 77 and later lever with switch in the=20 knob.

If it's off a pre-77 then it will give you OD in 3rd = and 4th,=20 but if off a 77 or later then probably on 4th only. If the = sub-harness has=20 come with the gearbox then that will give you a clue as there were = connections=20 for both the lockout and manual switches on 77 and later, but only for = the=20 lockout switch before that. More info on=20 selector levers and plungers that control that here http://www.mgb-stuff.o= rg.uk/gswitch.htm#3

Do you have TCSA now? Do you need to keep it = for=20 emissions reasons? That may determine whether you can have OD on = 3rd and=20 4th or will need to restrict it to 4th only.

PaulH.

----- Original Message -----

I=20 purchased an O/D from a fellow in NY. It arrived via=20 freight yesterday and is now in my garage.

The guy=20 I bought it from was going to put it in an MGA. He got it from a = friend=20 who.... yeah... It does not have the shifter lever at all, so I don't = know if=20 it is '77 or later or not.

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