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Mon, 1 Feb 2021 11:45:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from c.mail.sonic.net (unknown [64.142.111.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3160A1144 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 2021 11:43:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.68] (172-5-155-8.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [172.5.155.8]) (authenticated bits=0) by c.mail.sonic.net (8.15.1/8.15.1) with ESMTPSA id 111Ihah3011494 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 1 Feb 2021 10:43:37 -0800 From: Max Heim Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 10:43:36 -0800 References: <09c58566-436a-4e58-a708-1a52f3dfa368.ref@email.android.com> <09c58566-436a-4e58-a708-1a52f3dfa368@email.android.com> <000a01d6f802$8840a7d0$98c1f770$@planet.nl> To: MGlist Subject: Re: [Mgs] Running hot Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4825310014460848633== boundary="Apple-Mail=_A9F2DDF8-2FE5-4B31-85AD-6B8BDA896B86" --Apple-Mail=_A9F2DDF8-2FE5-4B31-85AD-6B8BDA896B86 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 I have had a plastic fan blade break and puncture the radiator. I think = this was rather a fringe case, however. Autopsy revealed the fan had a = molding flaw =E2=80=94 there was large bubble in the plastic right at = the base of the blade that broke off =E2=80=94 it only lasted 307 miles = from new. Also, it is doubtful that the blade would have seriously = damaged the radiator if it hadn=E2=80=99t become trapped in the radiator = shroud. As it was, it acted as a kind of rotary hammer, which was too = much for the 50+ year-old brass core. Anyway, as for Rick=E2=80=99s problem, if it doesn=E2=80=99t involve a = head gasket leak (as suggested), then I think that leaves serious = blockage in the block somewhere. Possibly this could be located with a = thermo gun. I have had to remove freeze plugs and break up deposits with = a pick in an old iron block V8 before. -- Max Heim '66 MGB > On Feb 1, 2021, at 10:18 AM, Charles Robinson = wrote: >=20 > I had a metal fan blade on my '69 B break loose at speed on the = highway. It punctured the radiator. That's the only time the car ever = stranded me. >=20 > CR >=20 > On 1/31/2021 12:54 PM, h.duinhoven@planet.nl wrote: >> That's an interesting piece of information! >> So now I have to find an MG dealer, who can deliver me a plastic fan. >> My 1971 imported in 1990 to the Netherlands from California still has = the >> metal blades... >> I once read a story of a broke metal fan blade protruding through the = bonnet >> (hood). >>=20 >> Cheers, >> Hans >> 71 BGT >>=20 >> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- >> Van: Mgs Namens Robert's New iPad >> Verzonden: zondag 31 januari 2021 01:51 >> Aan: rolindsay@yahoo.com >> CC: MGs >> Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Running hot >>=20 >> In 1972, MG issued a service bulletin that said all the cars with = metal >> fans should have them replaced by the dealer, at no cost, by the = plastic >> fan. When I came across the bulletin, a couple of years back, I = bought a >> plastic fan and replaced the metal one. >> Plastic fan seems to move more air and to be quieter too. As I = always >> keep fan belt very loose, I found its lower weight reduced squeal = when >> jabbing the throttle. >> If the electric fan moves more air than the OEM metal one, why not = remove >> the metal one? Unless the two are moving air at exactly the same = velocity, >> one fan will be interfering with the other, not enough to cause this >> overheating, but unnecessary. >> Bob >>=20 >>=20 >>> On Jan 30, 2021, at 7:04 PM, rolindsay@yahoo.com wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Is fan turning the right direction? I have heard about that but >>>> never seen it. >>> I verified that the metal fan is mounted correctly. And verified = that >> the electric fan that I mounted is blowing the right way (the second = time I >> wired it :-). >> _______________________________________________ >>=20 >>=20 > _______________________________________________ >=20 > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs = http://autox.team.net/archive >=20 > Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim@sonic.net >=20 --Apple-Mail=_A9F2DDF8-2FE5-4B31-85AD-6B8BDA896B86 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 I = have had a plastic fan blade break and puncture the radiator. I think = this was rather a fringe case, however. Autopsy revealed the fan had a = molding flaw =E2=80=94 there was large bubble in the plastic right at = the base of the blade that broke off =E2=80=94 it only lasted 307 miles = from new. Also, it is doubtful that the blade would have seriously = damaged the radiator if it hadn=E2=80=99t become trapped in the radiator = shroud. As it was, it acted as a kind of rotary hammer, which was too = much for the 50+ year-old brass core.

Anyway, as for Rick=E2=80=99s problem, = if it doesn=E2=80=99t involve a head gasket leak (as suggested), then I = think that leaves serious blockage in the block somewhere. Possibly this = could be located with a thermo gun. I have had to remove freeze plugs = and break up deposits with a pick in an old iron block V8 before.

--
Max Heim
'66 MGB



On Feb = 1, 2021, at 10:18 AM, Charles Robinson <ccrobins@ktc.com> = wrote:

I had a metal fan blade on my '69 B break loose at speed on = the highway.  It punctured the radiator.  That's the only time = the car ever stranded me.

CR

On 1/31/2021 12:54 PM, h.duinhoven@planet.nl= wrote:
That's an = interesting piece of information!
So now I have to find an = MG dealer, who can deliver me a plastic fan.
My 1971 = imported in 1990 to the Netherlands from California still has the
metal blades...
I once read a story of a broke = metal fan blade protruding through the bonnet
(hood).

Cheers,
Hans
71 = BGT

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> Namens Robert's New = iPad
Verzonden: zondag 31 januari 2021 01:51
Aan: rolindsay@yahoo.com
CC: MGs <mgs@autox.team.net>
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] = Running hot

    In = 1972, MG issued a service bulletin that said all the cars with metal
fans should have them replaced by the dealer, at no cost, by = the plastic
fan.   When I came across the = bulletin, a couple of years back, I bought a
plastic fan = and replaced the metal one.
   Plastic fan = seems to move more air and to be quieter too. As I always
keep fan belt very loose, I found its lower weight reduced = squeal when
jabbing the throttle.
=    If the electric fan moves more air than the OEM metal = one, why not remove
the metal one?   Unless the = two are moving air at exactly the same velocity,
one fan = will be interfering with the other, not enough to cause this
overheating, but unnecessary.
Bob


On Jan 30, 2021, at 7:04 PM, rolindsay@yahoo.com = wrote:

Is fan turning the right direction? I have heard about that = but
never seen it.
=    I verified that the metal fan is mounted correctly. = And verified that
the electric fan that I = mounted is blowing the right way (the second time I
wired = it :-).
_______________________________________________


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Texas cooler plastic fans failed on big healeys.

<= div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">Ira Erbs
1959 AH 100-6
1967 MG= B
Milwaukie, OR

On Mon, Feb 1, 2021, 10:24 AM Charles Robinson <= ccrobins@ktc.com> wrote:
I had a metal fan blade on my '69 B br= eak loose at speed on the
highway.=C2=A0 It punctured the radiator.=C2=A0 That's the only time th= e car ever
stranded me.

CR

On 1/31/2021 12:54 PM, h.duinhoven@planet.nl wrote:
> That's an interesting piece of information!
> So now I have to find an MG dealer, who can deliver me a plastic fan.<= br> > My 1971 imported in 1990 to the Netherlands from California still has = the
> metal blades...
> I once read a story of a broke metal fan blade protruding through the = bonnet
> (hood).
>
> Cheers,
> Hans
> 71 BGT
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces@autox.team.net> Namens Robert&= #39;s New iPad
> Verzonden: zondag 31 januari 2021 01:51
> Aan: rolindsay@yahoo.com
> CC: MGs <mgs@autox.team.net>
> Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Running hot
>
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 In 1972, MG issued a service bulletin that said al= l the cars with metal
> fans should have them replaced by the dealer, at no cost, by the plast= ic
> fan.=C2=A0 =C2=A0When I came across the bulletin, a couple of years ba= ck, I bought a
> plastic fan and replaced the metal one.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Plastic fan seems to move more air and to be quiete= r too. As I always
> keep fan belt very loose, I found its lower weight reduced squeal when=
> jabbing the throttle.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0If the electric fan moves more air than the OEM met= al one, why not remove
> the metal one?=C2=A0 =C2=A0Unless the two are moving air at exactly th= e same velocity,
> one fan will be interfering with the other, not enough to cause this > overheating, but unnecessary.
> Bob
>
>
>> On Jan 30, 2021, at 7:04 PM, rolindsay@yahoo.com wrote:
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>>> never seen it.
>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I verified that the metal fan is mounted correc= tly. And verified that
> the electric fan that I mounted is blowing the right way (the second t= ime I
> wired it :-).
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--00000000000062b22305ba53261c-- --===============7559482890742278231== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============7559482890742278231==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 3 10:11:27 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B56A121A for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2021 10:11:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-11.server.virginmedia.net (unknown [80.0.253.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0080FA110B for ; Mon, 1 Feb 2021 02:03:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from HT-Win ([92.238.208.75]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id 6V7LllMBiJigB6V7Ll0I4f; Mon, 01 Feb 2021 09:03:32 +0000 a=MqhfHBIO6+tMHo+zfQPqPA==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=nbi1LO9kAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=rqVRMmKPweKc2UKu8CcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=v89TDf4JHyVQN_hq7FXG:22 a=gagx6YM4nTsp0Crtwc_J:22 s=meg.feb2017; t=1612170212; bh=auPgnnBj7rQiDiGoKC4DIgKmh/sYMSKhxwdcpJirv3Q=; h=From:Subject:To:Cc:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=rY5+76EOv4H+4DT4L1cbdDkUBKLSE8qrzq7KPMul6kAaJhfPXvNCZnyVHF7FasMR5 hxm2z6oi1A4MSEoW0ifLZmRrZcgBvFVo9oDcLjrBalpAuBlnn5cy8urfIEm9ORN5bT Po7n7UOsM/mv9tITblcUQoWRARSGMhltio42h8i0LlXidnSSkQQYaxB00Op3y2rcZd 3LS9QWa02LFjIRfP3hVlizPRENaJBD0F6JDOxbSs+/cRcrs8IiZjTJWRyeijtaEl1U ffTpcnqQU3phfFerw4HHfkLfJg48DpOPXK1BqDojGTNOIIrrnXDMUc9Uh7ZDdS4zBe FofS6h7vvW9OA== From: "Me @ Virgin Media" To: "h.duinhoven@planet.nl" , "'Robert's New iPad'" , "rolindsay@yahoo.com" References: <09c58566-436a-4e58-a708-1a52f3dfa368.ref@email.android.com> <09c58566-436a-4e58-a708-1a52f3dfa368@email.android.com> <000a01d6f802$8840a7d0$98c1f770$@planet.nl> Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 09:03:32 +0000 User-Agent: OEClassic/2.9 (Win7.7601; F; 2019-03-18) G4CtGhqTOxjy7aUxA4279fjTt/kQXJJJt1adR2sQ454Udh0u/4vxSI5zJVwVMO7i1OJdYmmI7slDhRuPLvAVYH9YXu3WN2b0WDS7+2yfa+2PliskVCq6glY3 XnN+J03ERnkmR6LYRHdE2Q== Subject: Re: [Mgs] Running hot Cc: 'MGs' Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Early plastic fans could get blades breaking off, they gained a metal insert to strengthen them. Both had more blades for better cooling, but were noisier, and cars for Swizerland had to go back to the 3-blade metal --- New Outlook Express and Windows Live Mail replacement - get it here: https://www.oeclassic.com/ . PaulH. ----- Original Message -----That's an interesting piece of information! So now I have to find an MG dealer, who can deliver me a plastic fan. My 1971 imported in 1990 to the Netherlands from California still has the metal blades... I once read a story of a broke metal fan blade protruding through the bonnet (hood). 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Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:57:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (unknown [68.178.252.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A78A09E6 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:57:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from TR3a ([70.113.144.162]) by :SMTPAUTH: with ESMTPSA id COGAloJx60AU2COGBlzk9P; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 07:56:59 -0700 a=KXMrHgSagCIti5hztBmXkQ==:117 a=KXMrHgSagCIti5hztBmXkQ==:17 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=6xdLQ0ZIg4bJMhO0n54A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=1PDZIOK5um3gIcaYNFcA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 From: "dave" To: Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 08:56:58 -0600 Thread-Index: AdcFPRNYdpb6Z7HHRaKsD0pNV/jZgQ== Content-Language: en-us pBQMnxds3owczBi3szr3KF3xboBJ/XCVRfdx9uyqp9v+68G6ca1tSvFC Subject: [Mgs] cloth wiring tape Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============0124329132361805780== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01D7050A.DA429F10" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01D7050A.DA429F10 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Has anyone found a source for cloth wiring tape with the yellow marks like on MGA's? ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01D7050A.DA429F10 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Has anyone found a source for = cloth wiring tape with the yellow marks like on = MGA’s?

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They don't list it on their site but they may redirec= t you... http://www.britishwiring.com/default.asp On Wednesday, February 17, 202= 1, 08:57:45 AM CST, dave wrote: =20 =20 Has anyone found a source for cloth wiring tape with the yellow marks like = on MGA=E2=80=99s? _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/rolindsay@yahoo.com =20 ------=_Part_2517559_520945510.1613574651899 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Talk with these guys. They don't list it on th= eir site but they may redirect you...

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------=_Part_2517559_520945510.1613574651899-- --===============6088779368301868802== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============6088779368301868802==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 17 18:22:51 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F032A0D12 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:22:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from gateway36.websitewelcome.com (unknown [192.185.199.121]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E12AAA0C49 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:22:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from cm10.websitewelcome.com (cm10.websitewelcome.com [100.42.49.4]) by gateway36.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4437400FCB79 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 19:22:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from box5291.bluehost.com ([162.241.225.207]) by cmsmtp with SMTP id CY1ZlPaAduDoACY1ZlK76j; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 19:22:33 -0600 ; s=default; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:From: To:Date:Sender:Reply-To:Message-ID:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=7GAiy6EzhlB1cZDMvXFERycy9o1jzh+mQ3F4Jrpen44=; b=J4gRHYnXXF81uF2XH5X5OE0znG vytlcgHMH9RrQf9q4XE/pnZM9EH6vWWynC7v1Gu2gs7U+N8YBkrrO6YZLEgYhW3yN7HV0NgpU8CP/ UUJbEYKmLXd4s9TmTErXtgysy3rqDmpFvF+VeG2zWYtT3pcmwNf2zHcB3U9ngz2zTsqzTHV2/dJ3t bGC4LQr99JMz7NbfDv/C+71ccb/4MpavZHhaI4j4O/GjUuHkY1wxkEiKcrErKte6ThzSj4ao9JnA3 lZ2n1iavYDpQM0u8rGa5yqZwGqbSGGQoSlnq2hYiP5OU0fSOIxtIqkNTtPiyDGKp3HpVPI68Pus0/ xYPgLVOg==; Received: from c-73-156-253-42.hsd1.fl.comcast.net ([73.156.253.42]:65365 helo=BarneysPC.mgaguru.com) by box5291.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.93) (envelope-from ) id 1lCY1Z-003Fp7-FU; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:22:33 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 20:22:23 -0500 To: "dave" , From: Barney Gaylord References: <000501d7053d$24dd0f10$6e972d30$@ranteer.com> please include it with any abuse report [73.156.253.42]:65365 Subject: Re: [Mgs] cloth wiring tape Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Pretty sure alll MGA had cloth braid covered harness. Early cars had black rubber insulated wires with color coded cloth braid on each wire. Later production cars had PVC insulated wires with the color code molded into the plastic insulation. All of them were them had the outer cover woven on outside with the yellow stripes wovwn into the cloth. Never was any kind of tape wrap with stripes as original (not cloth or plastic). At 09:56 AM 2/17/2021, dave wrote: >.... >Has anyone found a source for cloth wiring tape with the yellow >marks like on MGA's? >.... _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 25 04:53:51 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4F4A02A3 for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2021 04:53:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa07-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (unknown [173.201.192.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B30A07DA for ; Thu, 25 Feb 2021 04:52:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from [IPv6:2607:fb90:47f3:c53e:f911:f103:b3a3:36f] ([172.58.107.42]) by :SMTPAUTH: with ESMTPSA id FFBglJvQ3SITbFFC4lkhxh; Thu, 25 Feb 2021 04:52:33 -0700 a=p6CaxCLMQt6smEM1KQkekw==:117 a=p6CaxCLMQt6smEM1KQkekw==:17 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=HpEJnUlJZJkA:10 a=fRBSOepKg3qAMgLX05kA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=pHzHmUro8NiASowvMSCR:22 a=xoEH_sTeL_Rfw54TyV31:22 SavedFromEmail: dave@ranteer.com Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2021 05:52:31 -0600 Importance: normal From: dave To: Mglist 4rRdch9EYmA9KhTjFXBG5MMncALLu1anN4N40nBGrZqHbs9YbCVRNlExgr2MPQh51CPYWWIxXWvgoau8UNkxzzKfZE1n7IRpunrDfePp+VQ5E0DhMcf2Da7l Subject: [Mgs] Reno Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1104388553896483567== ----_com.samsung.android.email_174754246568180 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 QW55b25lIGluIHRoZSBSZW5vLCBOViBhcmVhP8KgIEknbGwgYmUgdGhlcmUgdGhpcyB3ZWVrZW5k IGFuZCB3b3VsZCBsaWtlIHRvIHZpc2l0 ----_com.samsung.android.email_174754246568180 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PGh0bWw+PGhlYWQ+PG1ldGEgaHR0cC1lcXVpdj0iQ29udGVudC1UeXBlIiBjb250ZW50PSJ0ZXh0 L2h0bWw7IGNoYXJzZXQ9VVRGLTgiPjwvaGVhZD48Ym9keSBkaXI9ImF1dG8iPkFueW9uZSBpbiB0 aGUgUmVubywgTlYgYXJlYT8mbmJzcDsgSSdsbCBiZSB0aGVyZSB0aGlzIHdlZWtlbmQgYW5kIHdv dWxkIGxpa2UgdG8gdmlzaXQ8L2JvZHk+PC9odG1sPg== ----_com.samsung.android.email_174754246568180-- --===============1104388553896483567== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============1104388553896483567==--