From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 1 14:28:52 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71E39A0E3E for ; Sat, 1 Oct 2022 14:28:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mout.perfora.net (unknown [74.208.4.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D345A0170 for ; Sat, 1 Oct 2022 14:02:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.25.5.250] ([108.49.151.194]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus002 [74.208.5.2]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LfkxY-1oywPv21Nq-00pHj7 for ; Sat, 01 Oct 2022 22:03:01 +0200 Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 16:03:00 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.3.0 Content-Language: en-US To: mgs@autox.team.net References: <78EE12EB-6B76-45EE-A565-28EC102918FA@gmail.com> <6A81EDB9-7E0C-4076-8782-1F06BAC2D3D0@sonic.net> From: Steve Shoyer 7CMK9F0VTyMBNjM+aKbZxkT66nHAtvZ13D++xfKJpEMHaBKLCvrsYTB3uOfllupNFqBm+b/ EgoHwelz0PKFSXtvrUnuSi8sbs84fBUr1qXfdydeHOo5Os1leuRiNnPrzBqfkR1KOqte4X3 DjSObCSAKun0R1lybPrkA== bBWPryLf1K5d5L3ngOxPetkLBskPOHLeSYT7vEHphYbDdbOgBbsQFWA5WA/OFUUj8Tf3W6TXb 7itvtBh7CPVBsOzi6SIya7k1++unQyJ/+go3knOE1SHXqwSJJh3YSoVq2FgLo97hXdNZwus0i JzaZcw5A+G4b56hv+4unEyuJnqpTvfiLfOb6/WouVzWsnI/XzFmMgXSpTPRyFWDHBABwbmHd4 OUmYPE+zUw6ux1PhyxQEY+EaHe9kwgLEJtJzTuFlwTW4sXwwLTXaCF9flcuu1ALvI1pX15Zlv M/TMQKCJv6NYOYzX0QJ7hpb9lsYTqXfhvmgaVL7vreAXgx2dVyBl1dD0i1oP0DgouEm0Sc98L MTCamayLFw8pttyERJBWQhXtIV/+i3wMOCJTtd8j81HTiAbfw3uExt+Nc51YO/HDqu8HGC/dI /25mJ5aJTpefsv0Vaaz0K0sskC6ao/6geLhqdLQ12Y6Q2Ms+1T42teSg+sU2IHDEFx7i8PhOJ NVC9gu+V+91DqtaoQuJAzLXMVtTsIFOC5MK8BavkxsgKxTbTYU50MPQ/DtMhUMN7wpLP3P52f ID/eNU5bDzNNzvIp1J/9nK2n+H2sCztYXdYzk0Unopx6aB6XPzQTVtWHYsrFrZ+HaEcGy2kRO D6gkGMsugECFGwFZAUzt1NqbM2Jm3LrCzM6UPcYdfyLkAreWabuIp5/GPF//2uXnOHZ1pUPHa XG/vPA6fNZlEFuS+dN1u0OWNMgimjV2W7ljXyK5KDRQrrtLd7BCmdpznSwx+wZmZQNLdNMheZ eerE725 Subject: Re: [Mgs] Salvage title Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============4977405919558421810== boundary="------------lL94VrlHsjralB7ThoE35yAf" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------lL94VrlHsjralB7ThoE35yAf Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In Massachusetts there are two kinds of salvage titles, repairable and parts-only.  A repairable car can be re-registered after being repaired and passing a salvage inspection.  A parts-only car cannot be registered again in MA.  The salvage title might make the car harder to insure, or at least more expensive. --Steve (1980 MGB) On 10/1/2022 12:15 AM, Max Heim wrote: > A salvage title definitely will hurt the value at auction. it just > raises the question “what happened to it?” and the answer can never be > good. > > But if you were planning to keep the car long term and don't mind > doing the restoration work, and are satisfied there is no irreparable > damage, then you might as well do it. You at least have a very good > idea of what it will take, more so than you would if you went and > bought a project car on the open market to replace it. > > Let your heirs figure out how to deal with the salvage title… > > -- > Max Heim > '66 MGB > >> On Sep 30, 2022, at 6:43 PM, Robert's New iPad wrote: >> >> Hi Tom, >> That’s terrible news. >> Generally speaking, a car that burns by itself can be >> salvaged/recovered and can be restored.   A car that is in a garage >> or barn fire may have its metal annealed, changing its strength.  An >> engineer can explain this better, but most owners of burned cars will >> stay away from one that was baked. >> One would think that the salvage title would push down the value, but >> I have no direct knowledge.  One of the guys in our club owns a >> couple of cars, not MGs, that he has bought from insurance companies, >> repaired and repainted them, and has had good service from them.  He >> is a talented and experienced fellow. >> Do you have pictures of the car that you can share? >> Bob >> >> >>> On Sep 30, 2022, at 9:04 PM, Thomas Gunderson >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> My MGA was in a fire. Hagerty will let me buy the car back for about >>> 1/3 the total payout. This will put the car as salvage. If I keep >>> the car and restore the car to the status it was before the fire. >>> How will the salvage title affect the value? >>> Should I let them keep the car and take the money? >>> >>> 1957 MGA 1500 rst >>> Tom Gunderson >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone X --------------lL94VrlHsjralB7ThoE35yAf Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

In Massachusetts there are two kinds of salvage titles, repairable and parts-only.  A repairable car can be re-registered after being repaired and passing a salvage inspection.  A parts-only car cannot be registered again in MA.  The salvage title might make the car harder to insure, or at least more expensive.

--Steve (1980 MGB)

On 10/1/2022 12:15 AM, Max Heim wrote:
A salvage title definitely will hurt the value at auction. it just raises the question “what happened to it?” and the answer can never be good.

But if you were planning to keep the car long term and don't mind doing the restoration work, and are satisfied there is no irreparable damage, then you might as well do it. You at least have a very good idea of what it will take, more so than you would if you went and bought a project car on the open market to replace it.

Let your heirs figure out how to deal with the salvage title…

--
Max Heim
'66 MGB

On Sep 30, 2022, at 6:43 PM, Robert's New iPad <mgbobh@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Tom,
That’s terrible news.
Generally speaking, a car that burns by itself can be salvaged/recovered and can be restored.   A car that is in a garage or barn fire may have its metal annealed, changing its strength.  An engineer can explain this better, but most owners of burned cars will stay away from one that was baked.  
One would think that the salvage title would push down the value, but I have no direct knowledge.  One of the guys in our club owns a couple of cars, not MGs, that he has bought from insurance companies, repaired and repainted them, and has had good service from them.  He is a talented and experienced fellow.
Do you have pictures of the car that you can share?
Bob


On Sep 30, 2022, at 9:04 PM, Thomas Gunderson <thgun@comporium.net> wrote:


My MGA was in a fire. Hagerty will let me buy the car back for about 1/3 the total payout. This will put the car as salvage. If I keep the car and restore the car to the status it was before the fire. How will the salvage title affect the value?
Should I let them keep the car and take the money?

1957 MGA 1500 rst
Tom Gunderson

Sent from my iPhone X
--------------lL94VrlHsjralB7ThoE35yAf-- --===============4977405919558421810== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============4977405919558421810==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 1 21:55:41 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C35A1985 for ; Sat, 1 Oct 2022 21:55:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from S15-GW101.mycloudmailbox.com (unknown [207.126.101.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745FDA1868 for ; Sat, 1 Oct 2022 21:24:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from relay301.mycloudmailbox.com (unknown [207.126.101.249]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by S15-GW101.mycloudmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Mg8Tc0vyYz2SpNc for ; Sat, 1 Oct 2022 23:24:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from S14-MBX11-22.S14.local (10.40.132.75) by S15-MBX101.S15.local (10.40.140.13) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256_P256) id 15.1.2375.31; Sat, 1 Oct 2022 23:24:35 -0400 Received: from S14-MBX11-13.S14.local (10.40.132.19) by S14-MBX11-22.S14.local (10.40.132.75) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256_P256) id 15.1.2375.31; Sat, 1 Oct 2022 23:24:35 -0400 Received: from S14-MBX11-13.S14.local ([fe80::b1fc:fc86:cc58:bfa6]) by S14-MBX11-13.S14.local ([fe80::b1fc:fc86:cc58:bfa6%15]) with mapi id 15.01.2375.031; Sat, 1 Oct 2022 23:24:36 -0400 From: dave northrup To: "mgs@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: convertible top Thread-Index: AdjWDnMN/1bm2c5eS5e8q0olKrLK6A== Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 03:24:35 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.40.134.250] x-routingagent: Treated Subject: [Mgs] convertible top Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8096860716927484159== Content-Language: en-US boundary="_000_a9fbb6d8f7f745669781e865b237b7a1ranteercom_" --_000_a9fbb6d8f7f745669781e865b237b7a1ranteercom_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Looking for a convertible top for my MGA. Is topsonline.com a good source? --_000_a9fbb6d8f7f745669781e865b237b7a1ranteercom_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Looking for a convertible top for my MGA.=

 

Is topsonline.com a good source?

--_000_a9fbb6d8f7f745669781e865b237b7a1ranteercom_-- --===============8096860716927484159== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============8096860716927484159==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 3 13:16:46 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 967E7A12C7 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2022 13:16:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from S15-GW104.mycloudmailbox.com (unknown [207.126.101.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AC51A14F6 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2022 11:09:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from relay301.mycloudmailbox.com (unknown [207.126.101.249]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by S15-GW104.mycloudmailbox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Mh6lL5SG8z2SZMJ for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2022 13:09:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from S14-MBX11-13.S14.local (10.40.132.19) by S15-MBX102.S15.local (10.40.140.12) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256_P256) id 15.1.2375.31; Mon, 3 Oct 2022 13:09:50 -0400 Received: from S14-MBX11-13.S14.local (10.40.132.19) by S14-MBX11-13.S14.local (10.40.132.19) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_CBC_SHA256_P256) id 15.1.2375.31; Mon, 3 Oct 2022 13:09:50 -0400 Received: from S14-MBX11-13.S14.local ([fe80::b1fc:fc86:cc58:bfa6]) by S14-MBX11-13.S14.local ([fe80::b1fc:fc86:cc58:bfa6%15]) with mapi id 15.01.2375.031; Mon, 3 Oct 2022 13:09:50 -0400 From: dave northrup To: "mgs@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: water temp/oil pressure gage Thread-Index: AdjXSmPDCVySZFVQRLCtH3bzQ0rDXg== Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 17:09:50 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.40.134.228] x-routingagent: Treated Subject: [Mgs] water temp/oil pressure gage Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2859469659412433291== Content-Language: en-US boundary="_000_dfd86f6354e840a6ac29121b2377fa43ranteercom_" --_000_dfd86f6354e840a6ac29121b2377fa43ranteercom_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am helping a friend with a 56 MGA. Definitely in need of cosmetic restor= ation; we think the mechanicals are pretty good. He is planning on having all the gages rebuilt at some point; right now it = has no temp/oil pressure gage and we need that before we go any farther wit= h the mechanicals. We are looking for one that works; don't care at all wh= at it looks like as long as it works. Anyone have an old gage around they = would be willing to sell? I see them on ebay but they are always either really expensive or not teste= d. --_000_dfd86f6354e840a6ac29121b2377fa43ranteercom_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am helping a friend with a 56 MGA.  Definitel= y in need of cosmetic restoration; we think the mechanicals are pretty good= .

 

He is planning on having all the gages rebuilt at so= me point; right now it has no temp/oil pressure gage and we need that befor= e we go any farther with the mechanicals.  We are looking for one that= works; don’t care at all what it looks like as long as it works.  Anyone have an old gage around they would = be willing to sell?

 

I see them on ebay but they are always either really= expensive or not tested.

--_000_dfd86f6354e840a6ac29121b2377fa43ranteercom_-- --===============2859469659412433291== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============2859469659412433291==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 3 19:25:30 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F61BA1670 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2022 19:25:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from d.mail.sonic.net (unknown [64.142.111.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37FB6A1006 for ; Mon, 3 Oct 2022 13:29:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.68] (172-5-155-8.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [172.5.155.8]) (authenticated bits=0) by d.mail.sonic.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 293JTGJp029379 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT); Mon, 3 Oct 2022 12:29:16 -0700 From: Max Heim Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 12:29:16 -0700 References: To: dave northrup , "mgs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Mgs] water temp/oil pressure gage Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7900472470941870801== boundary="Apple-Mail=_32091E5A-5A97-41F5-B5D9-2462667D2ED1" --Apple-Mail=_32091E5A-5A97-41F5-B5D9-2462667D2ED1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 Well, that=E2=80=99s about what I would expect. Any =E2=80=9Cbarn = find=E2=80=9D gauge would need to be tested. Restored or =E2=80=9Cknown = good" gauges would be expensive. Is there a local club? Maybe someone would let you have a =E2=80=9Cloaner=E2= =80=9D from a non-running project that you could use for startup = testing, on the condition you returned it. -- Max Heim mvheim@sonic.net > On Oct 3, 2022, at 10:09 AM, dave northrup wrote: >=20 > I am helping a friend with a 56 MGA. Definitely in need of cosmetic = restoration; we think the mechanicals are pretty good. > =20 > He is planning on having all the gages rebuilt at some point; right = now it has no temp/oil pressure gage and we need that before we go any = farther with the mechanicals. We are looking for one that works; = don=E2=80=99t care at all what it looks like as long as it works. = Anyone have an old gage around they would be willing to sell? > =20 > I see them on ebay but they are always either really expensive or not = tested. > _______________________________________________ >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html = > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs = http://autox.team.net/archive = >=20 > Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim@sonic.net = --Apple-Mail=_32091E5A-5A97-41F5-B5D9-2462667D2ED1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 Well,= that=E2=80=99s about what I would expect. Any =E2=80=9Cbarn find=E2=80=9D= gauge would need to be tested. Restored or =E2=80=9Cknown good" gauges = would be expensive.

Is= there a local club? Maybe someone would let you have a =E2=80=9Cloaner=E2= =80=9D from a non-running project that you could use for startup = testing, on the condition you returned it.


--
Max Heim
mvheim@sonic.net



On Oct 3, 2022, at 10:09 AM, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> = wrote:

I am helping a friend with = a 56 MGA.  Definitely in need of cosmetic restoration; we think the = mechanicals are pretty good.
 
He is planning on having all the gages rebuilt = at some point; right now it has no temp/oil pressure gage and we need = that before we go any farther with the mechanicals.  We are looking = for one that works; don=E2=80=99t care at all what it looks like as long = as it works.  Anyone have an old gage around they would be willing = to sell?
 
I see them on ebay but = they are always either really expensive or not tested.
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Depends on whether he is planning to use it 'normally' before getting the gauges done or not.  If so then he definitely needs both gauges from the outset, but these could be separates if cheaper until he gets a dual gauge and has that rebuilt.  You can test 'untested' yourself but if either section doesn't work you would have to get it rebuilt before using the car instead of 'at some point'.  The temp section is the most likely to be faulty, especially if removal from the donor car was not done with care.

PaulH.

On 03/10/2022 18:09, dave northrup wrote:

I am helping a friend with a 56 MGA.  Definitely in need of cosmetic restoration; we think the mechanicals are pretty good.

 

He is planning on having all the gages rebuilt at some point; right now it has no temp/oil pressure gage and we need that before we go any farther with the mechanicals.  We are looking for one that works; don’t care at all what it looks like as long as it works.  Anyone have an old gage around they would be willing to sell?

 

I see them on ebay but they are always either really expensive or not tested.


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I just recalled=E2=80=A6= when I had to send my combo gauge out for repair, I bought a cheap = plastic temp gauge at the auto parts store to install temporarily. I = suppose you could do that for both, although you would have to find = someplace to mount one of them.


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On Oct 4, 2022, at 12:23 AM, PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com> wrote:

Depends= on whether he is planning to use it 'normally' before getting the = gauges done or not.  If so then he definitely needs both gauges = from the outset, but these could be separates if cheaper until he gets a = dual gauge and has that rebuilt.  You can test 'untested' yourself = but if either section doesn't work you would have to get it rebuilt = before using the car instead of 'at some point'.  The temp section = is the most likely to be faulty, especially if removal from the donor = car was not done with care.

PaulH.

On 03/10/2022 18:09, dave northrup wrote:
I am helping a = friend with a 56 MGA.  Definitely in need of cosmetic restoration; = we think the mechanicals are pretty good.
 
He is planning on having all the gages rebuilt = at some point; right now it has no temp/oil pressure gage and we need = that before we go any farther with the mechanicals.  We are looking = for one that works; don=E2=80=99t care at all what it looks like as long = as it works.  Anyone have an old gage around they would be willing = to sell?
 
I see them on ebay but = they are always either really expensive or not tested.

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= --Apple-Mail=_37947514-CE70-48B3-9EBF-70F5EAE824E6-- --===============3921356385966026540== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============3921356385966026540==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 6 01:14:50 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67592A1566 for ; Thu, 6 Oct 2022 01:14:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: Mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail.nrtc.syn-alias.com (unknown [129.213.214.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17FBA0D22 for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2022 16:48:34 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: smtp01.nrtc.email-ash1.sync.lan smtp.user=; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [67.197.105.87] ([67.197.105.87:35431] helo=smtpclient.apple) by mail.informnet.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 4.4.0.19839 r(msys-ecelerity:tags/4.4.0.0^0)) with ESMTPA id 4C/C9-17811-CC90E336; Wed, 05 Oct 2022 18:48:44 -0400 From: Thomas Gunderson Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2022 18:48:32 -0400 To: mglist Subject: [Mgs] MGA PAINT JOB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net I have started a project to bring my 1957 MGA rst back after a shop fire. I am going to start to clean and prep the body for paint. Any ideas about getting a good paint job without breaking the bank? Thanks guys Tom Gunderson Sent from my iPhone X _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 7 16:17:15 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56AC7A0CFB for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2022 16:17:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from mail.nrtc.syn-alias.com (unknown [129.213.214.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE583A1939 for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2022 09:02:13 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: smtp03.nrtc.email-ash1.sync.lan smtp.user=; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [69.168.40.29] ([69.168.40.29:61447] helo=DESKTOPJS2LTI4) by client.av-mx.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 4.4.0.19839 r(msys-ecelerity:tags/4.4.0.0^0)) with ESMTPA id 8F/D1-22572-F7F30436; Fri, 07 Oct 2022 11:02:24 -0400 From: To: "'MG Digest'" Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 11:02:23 -0400 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AdjaXb9nKen9oB2nQZeU89DdLCpIfw== Subject: [Mgs] Oil viscosity for 3.5 V8 engine Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============2305230178782463798== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01D8DA3C.48367110" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01D8DA3C.48367110 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am puzzled about the proper oil viscosity for my Rover 3.5 V8 engine. Des Hammill's book How to Power Tune RV8 Engines states "Anyone used to oil pressures hovering around 70 - 75 psi on an MGB 1800 engine will be alarmed to see pressures in the Rover V8 reading 15 - 40 psi. These engines are low-pressure engines with normal pressures (hot) at 20 psi idle using a 15W 50 oil, and 40 psi over about 3500 rpm." Its time for me to change the oil in mine and 15W 50 seems a bit high when compared to oil normally used in my other US built cars. Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions to this? Thanks in advance for your input. Jim Ray ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01D8DA3C.48367110 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I am puzzled about the proper oil viscosity = for my Rover 3.5 V8 engine. Des Hammill's book How to Power Tune RV8 = Engines states “Anyone used to oil pressures hovering around = 70 – 75 psi on an MGB 1800 engine will be alarmed to see pressures = in the Rover V8 reading 15 – 40 psi. These engines are = low-pressure engines with normal pressures (hot) at 20 psi idle using a = 15W 50 oil, and 40 psi over about 3500 rpm.”  Its time for me = to change the oil in mine and 15W 50 seems a bit high when compared to = oil normally used in my other US built cars. Anyone have any thoughts or = suggestions to this?

 

Thanks in advance for = your input.

 

Jim = Ray

------=_NextPart_000_000A_01D8DA3C.48367110-- --===============2305230178782463798== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mgs@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mharc@autox.team.net --===============2305230178782463798==-- From mgs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 8 01:14:23 2022 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6037BA2249 for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2022 01:14:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: mgs@autox.team.net Received: from c.mail.sonic.net (unknown [64.142.111.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1616A040F for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2022 16:52:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.68] (172-5-155-8.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [172.5.155.8]) (authenticated bits=0) by c.mail.sonic.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPSA id 297Mr8qN031997 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 7 Oct 2022 15:53:08 -0700 From: Max Heim Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 15:53:06 -0700 References: To: mglist Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil viscosity for 3.5 V8 engine Errors-To: mgs-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8216251146860530363== boundary="Apple-Mail=_7753BAFE-FD9E-4DFB-8066-E01B77B27F68" --Apple-Mail=_7753BAFE-FD9E-4DFB-8066-E01B77B27F68 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 I am using 15W50 in all my cars at this point: 1966 MGB, 1967 Plymouth = slant six, 1967 Plymouth 4bbl V8; specifically, Mobil1 15W50 which is = formulated for flat tappet engines and has 1500ppm zinc. Note that other = weights of this brand are NOT appropriate for older cars. 50 is not too high viscosity for summer use in California (it=E2=80=99s = really what you want), and 15W indicates that is not too heavy for = winter use. -- Max Heim '66 MGB > On Oct 7, 2022, at 8:02 AM, = wrote: >=20 > I am puzzled about the proper oil viscosity for my Rover 3.5 V8 = engine. Des Hammill's book How to Power Tune RV8 Engines states = =E2=80=9CAnyone used to oil pressures hovering around 70 =E2=80=93 75 = psi on an MGB 1800 engine will be alarmed to see pressures in the Rover = V8 reading 15 =E2=80=93 40 psi. These engines are low-pressure engines = with normal pressures (hot) at 20 psi idle using a 15W 50 oil, and 40 = psi over about 3500 rpm.=E2=80=9D Its time for me to change the oil in = mine and 15W 50 seems a bit high when compared to oil normally used in = my other US built cars. Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions to this? > =20 > Thanks in advance for your input. > =20 > Jim Ray > _______________________________________________ >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html = > Suggested annual donation $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs = http://autox.team.net/archive = >=20 > Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim@sonic.net = --Apple-Mail=_7753BAFE-FD9E-4DFB-8066-E01B77B27F68 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 I = am using 15W50 in all my cars at this point: 1966 MGB, 1967 Plymouth = slant six, 1967 Plymouth 4bbl V8; specifically, Mobil1 15W50 which is = formulated for flat tappet engines and has 1500ppm zinc. Note that other = weights of this brand are NOT appropriate for older cars.

50 is not too high = viscosity for summer use in California (it=E2=80=99s really what you = want), and 15W indicates that is not too heavy for winter use.

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On Oct 7, 2022, at 8:02 AM, <jimray@hartcom.net> = <jimray@hartcom.net> wrote:

I am puzzled about the proper oil viscosity for my = Rover 3.5 V8 engine. Des Hammill's book How to Power = Tune RV8 Engines states =E2=80=9CAnyone = used to oil pressures hovering around 70 =E2=80=93 75 psi on an MGB 1800 = engine will be alarmed to see pressures in the Rover V8 reading 15 =E2=80=93= 40 psi. These engines are low-pressure engines with normal pressures = (hot) at 20 psi idle using a 15W 50 oil, and 40 psi over about 3500 = rpm.=E2=80=9D  Its time for me to change the oil in mine and 15W 50 = seems a bit high when compared to oil normally used in my other US built = cars. Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions to this?
 
Thanks in advance for your = input.
 
Jim Ray
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0All good words Max. Thanks. I didn'= t know about the 15W50 Mobile 1 zinc thing.=C2=A0
= =C2=A0 =C2=A0Where I live it never really gets cold, so a constant viscosit= y oil would even work. That said, I don't drive my cars enough to worry= about wear. I just play with them. My go-to oil for everything older is Ca= strol GTX 20W50.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0I guess I should defin= e 'everything older'. Specifically, I mean my '53 TD, '71 V= olvo 1800E, '72 MGB, '73 E-Type (V12), and even my 25-year-old =C3= =BCber-high mileage Nissan D21 pickup. Everything else/newer gets whatever = the Owner's Manual recommends.

Rick, in Houston
PS: Classic Plymouths ar= e awesome.

On Sat, Oct 8, 2022, 2:13 AM Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net> wrote:
I am using 15W50 in all my cars at this point: 1966 MGB, 1967 Pl= ymouth slant six, 1967 Plymouth 4bbl V8; specifically, Mobil1 15W50 which i= s formulated for flat tappet engines and has 1500ppm zinc. Note that other = weights of this brand are NOT appropriate for older cars.

50 is not too high viscosity for summer use in California (it=E2=80=99s r= eally what you want), and 15W indicates that is not too heavy for winter us= e.

--
Max Heim
'66 MGB

On Oct 7, 2022, at 8:02 AM, <jim= ray@hartcom.net> <jimray@hartcom.net> wrote:

I am puzzled about the prop= er oil viscosity for my Rover 3.5 V8 engine. Des Hammill's book= =C2=A0How to Power Tune RV8 Engines=C2=A0states = =E2=80=9CAnyone used to oil pressures hovering around 70 =E2=80=93 75 psi o= n an MGB 1800 engine will be alarmed to see pressures in the Rover V8 readi= ng 15 =E2=80=93 40 psi. These engines are low-pressure engines with normal = pressures (hot) at 20 psi idle using a 15W 50 oil, and 40 psi over about 35= 00 rpm.=E2=80=9D =C2=A0Its time for me to change the oil in mine and 15W 50= seems a bit high when compared to oil normally used in my other US built c= ars. Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions to this?<= /div>
=C2=A0
Thanks in advance for your input.<= /div>
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Jim Ray
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Looks like it's in great shape and inexpensive.... https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/katy-1963-mgb/7540334022.html Dan D '76B Central NJ USA On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 8:38 AM Richard Lindsay wrote: > All good words Max. Thanks. I didn't know about the 15W50 Mobile 1 zin= c > thing. > Where I live it never really gets cold, so a constant viscosity oil > would even work. That said, I don't drive my cars enough to worry about > wear. I just play with them. My go-to oil for everything older is Castrol > GTX 20W50. > I guess I should define 'everything older'. Specifically, I mean my '5= 3 > TD, '71 Volvo 1800E, '72 MGB, '73 E-Type (V12), and even my 25-year-old > =C3=BCber-high mileage Nissan D21 pickup. Everything else/newer gets what= ever > the Owner's Manual recommends. > > Rick, in Houston > PS: Classic Plymouths are awesome. > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2022, 2:13 AM Max Heim wrote: > >> I am using 15W50 in all my cars at this point: 1966 MGB, 1967 Plymouth >> slant six, 1967 Plymouth 4bbl V8; specifically, Mobil1 15W50 which is >> formulated for flat tappet engines and has 1500ppm zinc. Note that other >> weights of this brand are NOT appropriate for older cars. >> >> 50 is not too high viscosity for summer use in California (it=E2=80=99s = really >> what you want), and 15W indicates that is not too heavy for winter use. >> >> -- >> Max Heim >> '66 MGB >> >> On Oct 7, 2022, at 8:02 AM, >> wrote: >> >> I am puzzled about the proper oil viscosity for my Rover 3.5 V8 engine. >> Des Hammill's book *How to Power Tune RV8 Engines *states =E2=80=9CAnyon= e used >> to oil pressures hovering around 70 =E2=80=93 75 psi on an MGB 1800 engi= ne will be >> alarmed to see pressures in the Rover V8 reading 15 =E2=80=93 40 psi. Th= ese engines >> are low-pressure engines with normal pressures (hot) at 20 psi idle usin= g a >> 15W 50 oil, and 40 psi over about 3500 rpm.=E2=80=9D Its time for me to= change the >> oil in mine and 15W 50 seems a bit high when compared to oil normally us= ed >> in my other US built cars. Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions to th= is? >> >> Thanks in advance for your input. >> >> Jim Ray >> >> _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase@gmail.com > --000000000000dd90b405eaacea31 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Rick, you need to add this one to your collection! Looks l= ike it's in great shape and inexpensive....

htt= ps://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/katy-1963-mgb/7540334022.html

Dan D
'76B
Central NJ USA

On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 8:38 AM Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay@gmail.com> wrote:
=C2= =A0 =C2=A0All good words Max. Thanks. I didn't know about the 15W50 Mob= ile 1 zinc thing.=C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Where I live it= never really gets cold, so a constant viscosity oil would even work. That = said, I don't drive my cars enough to worry about wear. I just play wit= h them. My go-to oil for everything older is Castrol GTX 20W50.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0I guess I should define 'everything older'= . Specifically, I mean my '53 TD, '71 Volvo 1800E, '72 MGB, = 9;73 E-Type (V12), and even my 25-year-old =C3=BCber-high mileage Nissan D2= 1 pickup. Everything else/newer gets whatever the Owner's Manual recomm= ends.

Rick, in Houston
PS: Classic Plymouths are awesome.

On Sat,= Oct 8, 2022, 2:13 AM Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net> wrote:
I a= m using 15W50 in all my cars at this point: 1966 MGB, 1967 Plymouth slant s= ix, 1967 Plymouth 4bbl V8; specifically, Mobil1 15W50 which is formulated f= or flat tappet engines and has 1500ppm zinc. Note that other weights of thi= s brand are NOT appropriate for older cars.

50 is not to= o high viscosity for summer use in California (it=E2=80=99s really what you= want), and 15W indicates that is not too heavy for winter use.
<= br>
--
Max Heim
= 9;66 MGB

On Oct 7, 2022, at 8:02 AM, <jim= ray@hartcom.net> <jimray@hartcom.net> wrote:

I am puzzled about the prop= er oil viscosity for my Rover 3.5 V8 engine. Des Hammill's book= =C2=A0How to Power Tune RV8 Engines=C2=A0states = =E2=80=9CAnyone used to oil pressures hovering around 70 =E2=80=93 75 psi o= n an MGB 1800 engine will be alarmed to see pressures in the Rover V8 readi= ng 15 =E2=80=93 40 psi. These engines are low-pressure engines with normal = pressures (hot) at 20 psi idle using a 15W 50 oil, and 40 psi over about 35= 00 rpm.=E2=80=9D =C2=A0Its time for me to change the oil in mine and 15W 50= seems a bit high when compared to oil normally used in my other US built c= ars. Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions to this?<= /div>
=C2=A0
Thanks in advance for your input.<= /div>
=C2=A0
Jim Ray
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I do like the early cars... On Mon, Oct 10, 2022, 7:01 AM Dan DiBiase wrote: > Rick, you need to add this one to your collection! Looks like it's in > great shape and inexpensive.... > > https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/katy-1963-mgb/7540334022.html > > Dan D > '76B > Central NJ USA > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 8:38 AM Richard Lindsay > wrote: > >> All good words Max. Thanks. I didn't know about the 15W50 Mobile 1 >> zinc thing. >> Where I live it never really gets cold, so a constant viscosity oil >> would even work. That said, I don't drive my cars enough to worry about >> wear. I just play with them. My go-to oil for everything older is Castro= l >> GTX 20W50. >> I guess I should define 'everything older'. Specifically, I mean my >> '53 TD, '71 Volvo 1800E, '72 MGB, '73 E-Type (V12), and even my 25-year-= old >> =C3=BCber-high mileage Nissan D21 pickup. Everything else/newer gets wha= tever >> the Owner's Manual recommends. >> >> Rick, in Houston >> PS: Classic Plymouths are awesome. >> >> On Sat, Oct 8, 2022, 2:13 AM Max Heim wrote: >> >>> I am using 15W50 in all my cars at this point: 1966 MGB, 1967 Plymouth >>> slant six, 1967 Plymouth 4bbl V8; specifically, Mobil1 15W50 which is >>> formulated for flat tappet engines and has 1500ppm zinc. Note that othe= r >>> weights of this brand are NOT appropriate for older cars. >>> >>> 50 is not too high viscosity for summer use in California (it=E2=80=99s= really >>> what you want), and 15W indicates that is not too heavy for winter use. >>> >>> -- >>> Max Heim >>> '66 MGB >>> >>> On Oct 7, 2022, at 8:02 AM, >>> wrote: >>> >>> I am puzzled about the proper oil viscosity for my Rover 3.5 V8 engine. >>> Des Hammill's book *How to Power Tune RV8 Engines *states =E2=80=9CAnyo= ne used >>> to oil pressures hovering around 70 =E2=80=93 75 psi on an MGB 1800 eng= ine will be >>> alarmed to see pressures in the Rover V8 reading 15 =E2=80=93 40 psi. T= hese engines >>> are low-pressure engines with normal pressures (hot) at 20 psi idle usi= ng a >>> 15W 50 oil, and 40 psi over about 3500 rpm.=E2=80=9D Its time for me t= o change the >>> oil in mine and 15W 50 seems a bit high when compared to oil normally u= sed >>> in my other US built cars. Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions to t= his? >>> >>> Thanks in advance for your input. >>> >>> Jim Ray >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase@gmail.com >> > --0000000000001f4d5105eaacffee Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dan. I do like the early cars...

On Mon, Oct 10, 2022= , 7:01 AM Dan DiBiase <dan.dibi= ase@gmail.com> wrote:
Rick, you need to add this one to your collection! Looks like it= 's in great shape and inexpensive....


Dan D
'76= B
Central NJ USA

On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 8:38 AM Richard Lind= say <richardolindsay@gmail.com> wrote:
=C2=A0 =C2= =A0All good words Max. Thanks. I didn't know about the 15W50 Mobile 1 z= inc thing.=C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Where I live it never = really gets cold, so a constant viscosity oil would even work. That said, I= don't drive my cars enough to worry about wear. I just play with them.= My go-to oil for everything older is Castrol GTX 20W50.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0I guess I should define 'everything older'. Speci= fically, I mean my '53 TD, '71 Volvo 1800E, '72 MGB, '73 E-= Type (V12), and even my 25-year-old =C3=BCber-high mileage Nissan D21 picku= p. Everything else/newer gets whatever the Owner's Manual recommends.

Rick, in Houston
PS: Classic Plymouths are awesome.

On Sat, Oct 8, = 2022, 2:13 AM Max Heim <mvheim@sonic.net> wrote:
I am using 15W50 in all my ca= rs at this point: 1966 MGB, 1967 Plymouth slant six, 1967 Plymouth 4bbl V8;= specifically, Mobil1 15W50 which is formulated for flat tappet engines and= has 1500ppm zinc. Note that other weights of this brand are NOT appropriat= e for older cars.

50 is not too high viscosity for summe= r use in California (it=E2=80=99s really what you want), and 15W indicates = that is not too heavy for winter use.

--
Max Heim
= 9;66 MGB

On Oct 7, 2022, at 8:02 AM, <jimray@hartcom.net> <jimray@hartcom.net>= ; wrote:

I am = puzzled about the proper oil viscosity for my Rover 3.5 V8 engine. Des Hamm= ill's book=C2=A0How to Power Tune RV8 Engines=C2= =A0states =E2=80=9CAnyone used to oil pressures hovering around = 70 =E2=80=93 75 psi on an MGB 1800 engine will be alarmed to see pressures = in the Rover V8 reading 15 =E2=80=93 40 psi. These engines are low-pressure= engines with normal pressures (hot) at 20 psi idle using a 15W 50 oil, and= 40 psi over about 3500 rpm.=E2=80=9D =C2=A0Its time for me to change the o= il in mine and 15W 50 seems a bit high when compared to oil normally used i= n my other US built cars. Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions to this?<= u>
=C2=A0<= /span>
Thanks in advance for your input.
=C2=A0
Jim Ray
_______________________________________________

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Obviously, with no pics of the underside, it could be a complete rustbucket worth only the parts it would yield. Caveat emptor in all things! Dan D '76B Central NJ USA On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM PaulHunt73 wrote: > Suspiciously cheap? You could pay at least four time that in the UK, > the quilted door cards are not THAT bad ... > > On 10/10/2022 13:00, Dan DiBiase wrote: > > Rick, you need to add this one to your collection! Looks like it's in > > great shape and inexpensive.... > > > > https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/katy-1963-mgb/7540334022.html > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase@gmail.com > --000000000000d52cdb05eab18aa8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
You'd certainly want to do your due diligence with any= thing on Craigslist. Obviously, with no pics of the underside, it could be = a complete rustbucket worth only the parts=C2=A0it would yield. Caveat=C2= =A0emptor in all things!

Dan D
'76B
<= div>Central NJ USA

On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73@virginmedia.com&g= t; wrote:
Suspic= iously cheap?=C2=A0 You could pay at least four time that in the UK,
the quilted door cards are not THAT bad ...

On 10/10/2022 13:00, Dan DiBiase wrote:
> Rick, you need to add this one to your collection! Looks like it's= in
> great shape and inexpensive....
>
> https://houston.craigslist.or= g/cto/d/katy-1963-mgb/7540334022.html
>
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Dear listers,

 

Last weekend some of the listers and some more friends came = to Amsterdam. As the contacts between us go back over more than 20 = years, this was a great event!

In the past I had meetings with = listers in the Boston area (January2000 and May 2006) and Colorado = Springs (February 2011).

Now the listers came to = Amsterdam!

The group visited https://www.louwmanmuseum.nl/en= / and came to watch my MG BGT and 3 Puch mopeds from 1970 – = 1973.

It = all was fabulous and not to forget!

 

MG =3D The Marque of = Friendship!

 

Cheers,

Hans

’71 BGT NRG w/w = no/od

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I just found out about this.

 

For those of you who have not experienced Route 66, = you have missed out!!!

 

https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/route66

 

 

 

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