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From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
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58 MGA.  Had a lot of trouble getting the clutch slave to bleed; even using=
 a syringe to push brake fluid up the line.  I was able to get it working f=
or a few minutes several times before it quit working.  the car never did l=
eave the garage.

Replaced the clutch slave with one from a quality supplier, and got it to w=
ork for a few weeks.  But then it again failed to disengage the clutch.  Ca=
r was on jack stands the whole time.  was finally going to drop it and driv=
e it around the block but no clutch.

Should I replace the master?  It and the original slave came from unmention=
able motors before I found out how poor their quality is.

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">58 MGA.&nbsp; Had a lot of trouble getting the clutc=
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uit working.&nbsp; the car never did leave the garage.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Replaced the clutch slave with one from a quality su=
pplier, and got it to work for a few weeks.&nbsp; But then it again failed =
to disengage the clutch.&nbsp; Car was on jack stands the whole time.&nbsp;=
 was finally going to drop it and drive it around
 the block but no clutch.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Should I replace the master?&nbsp; It and the origin=
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Is the fluid level in the master changing?

With the pedal wedged down what happens when you open the slave bleed 
nipple?  If fluid spurts out then there is air in the system.  If you 
only get a trickle then I suspect the pressure seal in the master isn't 
pressurising.

If you do get a spurt i.e. air in the system it's difficult to see how 
that can happen from the master with it sitting idle, pedal being 
exercised maybe.  Joints air-tight?

PaulH.

On 03/10/2023 02:34, dave northrup wrote:
>
> 58 MGA.  Had a lot of trouble getting the clutch slave to bleed; even 
> using a syringe to push brake fluid up the line.  I was able to get it 
> working for a few minutes several times before it quit working.  the 
> car never did leave the garage.
>
> Replaced the clutch slave with one from a quality supplier, and got it 
> to work for a few weeks.  But then it again failed to disengage the 
> clutch.  Car was on jack stands the whole time.  was finally going to 
> drop it and drive it around the block but no clutch.
>
> Should I replace the master?  It and the original slave came from 
> unmentionable motors before I found out how poor their quality is.
>
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    <p>Is the fluid level in the master changing?</p>
    <p>With the pedal wedged down what happens when you open the slave
      bleed nipple?  If fluid spurts out then there is air in the
      system.  If you only get a trickle then I suspect the pressure
      seal in the master isn't pressurising.</p>
    <p>If you do get a spurt i.e. air in the system it's difficult to
      see how that can happen from the master with it sitting idle,
      pedal being exercised maybe.  Joints air-tight?</p>
    <p>PaulH.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/10/2023 02:34, dave northrup
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        <p class="MsoNormal">58 MGA.  Had a lot of trouble getting the
          clutch slave to bleed; even using a syringe to push brake
          fluid up the line.  I was able to get it working for a few
          minutes several times before it quit working.  the car never
          did leave the garage.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Replaced the clutch slave with one from a
          quality supplier, and got it to work for a few weeks.  But
          then it again failed to disengage the clutch.  Car was on jack
          stands the whole time.  was finally going to drop it and drive
          it around the block but no clutch.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Should I replace the master?  It and the
          original slave came from unmentionable motors before I found
          out how poor their quality is.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Hi Dave,
	It seems that Master is likely the culprit. If you are reasonably c=
ertain that all the connections are snug, then Master is the only part remai=
ning.=20
	In days past I would do changes or rebuilding of one part in the sy=
stem. These days I do both at the same time, considering that the total mess=
 made is about the same in both cases,  bleeding is the same hassle, and bot=
h the parts are probably of same age.
Bob

> On Oct 2, 2023, at 9:34 PM, dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>=20
> 58 MGA.  Had a lot of trouble getting the clutch slave to bleed; even usin=
g a syringe to push brake fluid up the line.  I was able to get it working f=
or a few minutes several times before it quit working.  the car never did le=
ave the garage.
> =20
> Replaced the clutch slave with one from a quality supplier, and got it to w=
ork for a few weeks.  But then it again failed to disengage the clutch.  Car=
 was on jack stands the whole time.  was finally going to drop it and drive i=
t around the block but no clutch.
> =20
> Should I replace the master?  It and the original slave came from unmentio=
nable motors before I found out how poor their quality is.
> _______________________________________________
>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"></div><div dir="ltr">Hi Dave,</div><div dir="ltr"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">	</span>It seems that Master is likely the culprit. If you are reasonably certain that all the connections are snug, then Master is the only part remaining.&nbsp;</div><div dir="ltr"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">	</span>In days past I would do changes or rebuilding of one part in the system. These days I do both at the same time, considering that the total mess made is about the same in both cases, &nbsp;bleeding is the same hassle, and both the parts are probably of same age.</div><div dir="ltr">Bob</div><div dir="ltr"><br>On Oct 2, 2023, at 9:34 PM, dave northrup &lt;<a href="mailto:dave@ranteer.com">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">

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<p class="MsoNormal">58 MGA.&nbsp; Had a lot of trouble getting the clutch slave to bleed; even using a syringe to push brake fluid up the line.&nbsp; I was able to get it working for a few minutes several times before it quit working.&nbsp; the car never did leave the garage.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Replaced the clutch slave with one from a quality supplier, and got it to work for a few weeks.&nbsp; But then it again failed to disengage the clutch.&nbsp; Car was on jack stands the whole time.&nbsp; was finally going to drop it and drive it around
 the block but no clutch.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Should I replace the master?&nbsp; It and the original slave came from unmentionable motors before I found out how poor their quality is.<o:p></o:p></p>
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The fluid level in the master stays constant and there are no leaks.  I rep=
laced the hose when I replaced the slave

From: dave northrup
Sent: Monday, October 2, 2023 8:35 PM
To: mgs@autox.team.net
Subject: am i chasing a ghost???

58 MGA.  Had a lot of trouble getting the clutch slave to bleed; even using=
 a syringe to push brake fluid up the line.  I was able to get it working f=
or a few minutes several times before it quit working.  the car never did l=
eave the garage.

Replaced the clutch slave with one from a quality supplier, and got it to w=
ork for a few weeks.  But then it again failed to disengage the clutch.  Ca=
r was on jack stands the whole time.  was finally going to drop it and driv=
e it around the block but no clutch.

Should I replace the master?  It and the original slave came from unmention=
able motors before I found out how poor their quality is.

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The fluid level in the master stays constant and the=
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 2, 2023 8:35 PM<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">58 MGA.&nbsp; Had a lot of trouble getting the clutc=
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p; I was able to get it working for a few minutes several times before it q=
uit working.&nbsp; the car never did leave the garage.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Replaced the clutch slave with one from a quality su=
pplier, and got it to work for a few weeks.&nbsp; But then it again failed =
to disengage the clutch.&nbsp; Car was on jack stands the whole time.&nbsp;=
 was finally going to drop it and drive it around
 the block but no clutch.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Should I replace the master?&nbsp; It and the origin=
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With the pedal wedged down what happens when you open the slave bleed 
nipple?  If fluid spurts out then there is air in the system.  If you 
only get a trickle then I suspect the pressure seal in the master isn't 
pressurising.

On 03/10/2023 14:03, dave northrup wrote:
>
> The fluid level in the master stays constant and there are no leaks.  
> I replaced the hose when I replaced the slave
>
> *From:*dave northrup
> *Sent:* Monday, October 2, 2023 8:35 PM
> *To:* mgs@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* am i chasing a ghost???
>
> 58 MGA.  Had a lot of trouble getting the clutch slave to bleed; even 
> using a syringe to push brake fluid up the line.  I was able to get it 
> working for a few minutes several times before it quit working.  the 
> car never did leave the garage.
>
> Replaced the clutch slave with one from a quality supplier, and got it 
> to work for a few weeks.  But then it again failed to disengage the 
> clutch.  Car was on jack stands the whole time.  was finally going to 
> drop it and drive it around the block but no clutch.
>
> Should I replace the master?  It and the original slave came from 
> unmentionable motors before I found out how poor their quality is.
>
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    <p>With the pedal wedged down what happens when you open the slave
      bleed nipple?  If fluid spurts out then there is air in the
      system.  If you only get a trickle then I suspect the pressure
      seal in the master isn't pressurising.</p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/10/2023 14:03, dave northrup
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        <p class="MsoNormal">The fluid level in the master stays
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="mso-ligatures:none">From:</span></b><span
                style="mso-ligatures:none"> dave northrup
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 2, 2023 8:35 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mgs@autox.team.net">mgs@autox.team.net</a><br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">58 MGA.  Had a lot of trouble getting the
          clutch slave to bleed; even using a syringe to push brake
          fluid up the line.  I was able to get it working for a few
          minutes several times before it quit working.  the car never
          did leave the garage.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Replaced the clutch slave with one from a
          quality supplier, and got it to work for a few weeks.  But
          then it again failed to disengage the clutch.  Car was on jack
          stands the whole time.  was finally going to drop it and drive
          it around the block but no clutch.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Should I replace the master?  It and the
          original slave came from unmentionable motors before I found
          out how poor their quality is.<o:p></o:p></p>
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From: dave northrup <dave@ranteer.com>
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Hello list.

I just came into an aluminum MGB hood.  In excellent shape; the inside is p=
ainted red and the outside/top is primer.  I am offering it to the list fir=
st.

Also - I came into (abandoned years ago at a paint shop) the following MGB =
parts:

Windshield (no scratches or chips, includes frame)
1 each (left and right) door
1 hood
1 trunk lid
Front rubber bumper includes emblem and 1 light
Rear rubber bumper
2 sets of Chrome strips, straight and no bends
Radiator which leaks
72 MGB Transmission - reverse does not work

Plus a 58 MGA transmission which works just fine in all gears

These items were painted about a decade ago, maroon, and left at a paint sh=
op.  There are scratches but no dents on the parts; they were stored carefu=
lly but in handling/storage/shipping they sustained some scratches.  They w=
ill need to be sanded and then will be ready for final paint.  There are no=
 dents, no rust, etc.  a decade ago or so they were perfect and ready to in=
stall.  No windows, winders, chrome (except for the strips), etc.  just the=
 metal pieces.  I have pictures; just let me know what  you want.

The parts are in Dallas so shipping might be a problem.  if you can pick th=
em up great.

I'm going to put this on the local MG club and craigslist next but the list=
 has been there for me for so many years so maybe I can help someone out.  =
I'm asking $100 for each part except the aluminum hood, the chrome strips, =
and the radiator.  The aluminum hood I'm pricing at $1500 or best offer.  I=
 will work with you on shipping if need be.  The chrome strips - make me an=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello list.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I just came into an aluminum MGB hood.&nbsp; In exce=
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 I am offering it to the list first.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Also &#8211; I came into (abandoned years ago at a p=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Windshield (no scratches or chips, includes frame)<o=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">1 each (left and right) door <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">1 hood<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">1 trunk lid<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Front rubber bumper includes emblem and 1 light<o:p>=
</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Rear rubber bumper<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">2 sets of Chrome strips, straight and no bends<o:p><=
/o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Radiator which leaks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">72 MGB Transmission &#8211; reverse does not work<o:=
p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Plus a 58 MGA transmission which works just fine in =
all gears<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">These items were painted about a decade ago, maroon,=
 and left at a paint shop.&nbsp; There are scratches but no dents on the pa=
rts; they were stored carefully but in handling/storage/shipping they susta=
ined some scratches.&nbsp; They will need to
 be sanded and then will be ready for final paint.&nbsp; There are no dents=
, no rust, etc.&nbsp; a decade ago or so they were perfect and ready to ins=
tall.&nbsp; No windows, winders, chrome (except for the strips), etc.&nbsp;=
 just the metal pieces.&nbsp; I have pictures; just let me
 know what&nbsp; you want.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The parts are in Dallas so shipping might be a probl=
em.&nbsp; if you can pick them up great.&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I&#8217;m going to put this on the local MG club and=
 craigslist next but the list has been there for me for so many years so ma=
ybe I can help someone out.&nbsp; I&#8217;m asking $100 for each part excep=
t the aluminum hood, the chrome strips, and the radiator.&nbsp;
 The aluminum hood I&#8217;m pricing at $1500 or best offer.&nbsp; I will w=
ork with you on shipping if need be.&nbsp; The chrome strips &#8211; make m=
e an offer.&nbsp; In great shape.&nbsp; the radiator - $20<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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I am reassembling the car; it was never running and driving under my owners=
hip.

I noticed today as I'm attempting to get the car running and driving for th=
e first time that there is play in the clutch in the rod that goes into the=
 master.

It is threaded about as far out as it can go.

It occurred to me that I could thread a rod so that there is virtually no p=
lay, and that the as soon as you press the clutch pedal it will move inside=
 the master.  It also occurred to me that that might be a bad idea. Can/sho=
uld I do that?  or will it push too far inside the master and cause additio=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I noticed today as I&#8217;m attempting to get the c=
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in the rod that goes into the master.
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">It is threaded about as far out as it can go.<o:p></=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">It occurred to me that I could thread a rod so that =
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What's the biting point like?  If that's fine then leave it alone.

I don't know the MGA master but on the MGB the master piston comes back 
to the circlip in the bore and positions the resting position of the 
pedal, and that determines how much 'throw' you have at the pedal, the 
slave cylinder and hence the release bearing.  Slop in the linkage at 
the pedal puts it closer to the floor and results in less slave piston 
movement and hence a lower biting point.  The same is not true of the 
linkage at the clutch end as a spring inside the slave cylinder pushes 
the piston out to take up all the play at that end, and more importantly 
to compensate for the graphite release bearing wearing down.  The more 
that wears the further the piston moves out, drawing fluid down from the 
master reservoir, so you continue to get a full stroke of the release 
arm.  That makes the MGB clutch system self-adjusting, and there is no 
scope for threaded adjustment anywhere in the system.  But as I say that 
is the MGB not the MGA.

PaulH.

On 29/10/2023 23:49, dave northrup wrote:
>
> I am reassembling the car; it was never running and driving under my 
> ownership.
>
> I noticed today as I’m attempting to get the car running and driving 
> for the first time that there is play in the clutch in the rod that 
> goes into the master.
>
> It is threaded about as far out as it can go.
>
> It occurred to me that I could thread a rod so that there is virtually 
> no play, and that the as soon as you press the clutch pedal it will 
> move inside the master.  It also occurred to me that that might be a 
> bad idea. Can/should I do that?  or will it push too far inside the 
> master and cause additional problems?  It isn’t more than about ½” of 
> play or so
>
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    <p>What's the biting point like?  If that's fine then leave it
      alone.</p>
    <p>I don't know the MGA master but on the MGB the master piston
      comes back to the circlip in the bore and positions the resting
      position of the pedal, and that determines how much 'throw' you
      have at the pedal, the slave cylinder and hence the release
      bearing.  Slop in the linkage at the pedal puts it closer to the
      floor and results in less slave piston movement and hence a lower
      biting point.  The same is not true of the linkage at the clutch
      end as a spring inside the slave cylinder pushes the piston out to
      take up all the play at that end, and more importantly to
      compensate for the graphite release bearing wearing down.  The
      more that wears the further the piston moves out, drawing fluid
      down from the master reservoir, so you continue to get a full
      stroke of the release arm.  That makes the MGB clutch system
      self-adjusting, and there is no scope for threaded adjustment
      anywhere in the system.  But as I say that is the MGB not the MGA.</p>
    <p>PaulH.<br>
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          you press the clutch pedal it will move inside the master.  It
          also occurred to me that that might be a bad idea. Can/should
          I do that?  or will it push too far inside the master and
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There should be a small amount of free play at the pushrod to master
cylinder piston (~ 1/16" which translates to ~ 3/8" at the pedal). This
ensures the piston is able to fully return to the off position.

Check the pushrod & clevis pin at the slave cylinder. Since they are
exposed to the elements they will often wear - the hole in the pushrod
becoming elongated & the clevis pin looking more like a mini crankshaft.
All that lost motion means the clutch doesn't operate through a full
stroke.

EjR

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> I am reassembling the car; it was never running and driving under my
> ownership.
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> I noticed today as I'm attempting to get the car running and driving for
> the first time that there is play in the clutch in the rod that goes into
> the master.
>
> It is threaded about as far out as it can go.
>
> It occurred to me that I could thread a rod so that there is virtually no
> play, and that the as soon as you press the clutch pedal it will move
> inside the master.  It also occurred to me that that might be a bad idea.
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> What's the biting point like?? If that's fine then leave it alone.
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> I don't know the MGA master but on the MGB the master piston comes back
> to the circlip in the bore and positions the resting position of the
> pedal, and that determines how much 'throw' you have at the pedal, the
> slave cylinder and hence the release bearing.? Slop in the linkage at
> the pedal puts it closer to the floor and results in less slave piston
> movement and hence a lower biting point.? The same is not true of the
> linkage at the clutch end as a spring inside the slave cylinder pushes
> the piston out to take up all the play at that end, and more importantly
> to compensate for the graphite release bearing wearing down.? The more
> that wears the further the piston moves out, drawing fluid down from the
> master reservoir, so you continue to get a full stroke of the release
> arm.? That makes the MGB clutch system self-adjusting, and there is no
> scope for threaded adjustment anywhere in the system.? But as I say that
> is the MGB not the MGA.
>
> PaulH.
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> On 29/10/2023 23:49, dave northrup wrote:
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> > goes into the master.
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> > It is threaded about as far out as it can go.
> >
> > It occurred to me that I could thread a rod so that there is virtually
> > no play, and that the as soon as you press the clutch pedal it will
> > move inside the master.? It also occurred to me that that might be a
> > bad idea. Can/should I do that?? or will it push too far inside the
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> > play or so
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">The=
re should be a small amount of free play at the pushrod to master cylinder =
piston (~ 1/16&quot; which translates to ~ 3/8&quot; at the pedal). This en=
sures the piston is able to fully return to the off position.=C2=A0</div><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">Check the pushrod &amp; clevis=
 pin at the slave cylinder. Since they are exposed to the elements they wil=
l often wear - the hole in the pushrod becoming elongated &amp; the clevis =
pin looking more like a mini crankshaft. All that lost motion means the clu=
tch doesn&#39;t operate through a full stroke.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-size:large"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default=
" style=3D"font-size:large">EjR=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 2:10=E2=
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k">dave@ranteer.com</a>&gt;<br>
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com" target=3D"_blank">f0749b4467b54c8a96fb6b7bc8ee7237@ranteer.com</a>&gt;=
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I am reassembling the car; it was never running and driving under my owners=
hip.<br>
<br>
I noticed today as I&#39;m attempting to get the car running and driving fo=
r the first time that there is play in the clutch in the rod that goes into=
 the master.<br>
<br>
It is threaded about as far out as it can go.<br>
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It occurred to me that I could thread a rod so that there is virtually no p=
lay, and that the as soon as you press the clutch pedal it will move inside=
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d&quot;<br>
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br>
<br>
I don&#39;t know the MGA master but on the MGB the master piston comes back=
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to the circlip in the bore and positions the resting position of the <br>
pedal, and that determines how much &#39;throw&#39; you have at the pedal, =
the <br>
slave cylinder and hence the release bearing.? Slop in the linkage at <br>
the pedal puts it closer to the floor and results in less slave piston <br>
movement and hence a lower biting point.? The same is not true of the <br>
linkage at the clutch end as a spring inside the slave cylinder pushes <br>
the piston out to take up all the play at that end, and more importantly <b=
r>
to compensate for the graphite release bearing wearing down.? The more <br>
that wears the further the piston moves out, drawing fluid down from the <b=
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master reservoir, so you continue to get a full stroke of the release <br>
arm.? That makes the MGB clutch system self-adjusting, and there is no <br>
scope for threaded adjustment anywhere in the system.? But as I say that <b=
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is the MGB not the MGA.<br>
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&gt; I am reassembling the car; it was never running and driving under my <=
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&gt; ownership.<br>
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&gt; I noticed today as I?m attempting to get the car running and driving <=
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r>
&gt; goes into the master.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; It is threaded about as far out as it can go.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; It occurred to me that I could thread a rod so that there is virtually=
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&gt; no play, and that the as soon as you press the clutch pedal it will <b=
r>
&gt; move inside the master.? It also occurred to me that that might be a <=
br>
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Second para is not correct, the self-adjusting nature of the clutch 
means wear at the slave end is automatically compensated for.  I know I 
have no experience of the MGA but read Barney Gaylord's page, the 
paragraph commencing "One of the key features ...": 
https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/clutch/ct_100.htm

Yes there should be some free play at the pedal.  If the master piston 
can't come back the bypass port may not open and fluid not be able to 
flow freely between reservoir and  slave with the pedal released.  This 
is essential so that fluid expansion as the system heats up does not 
apply excess pressure to the release bearing with the pedal released 
which can cause clutch slip, and also to allow the self-adjusting 
function to operate correctly.  OTOH too much free play e.g. from worn 
components there causes a low biting point, which is why I said if the 
biting point is fine then leave it alone.

PaulH.

On 30/10/2023 18:25, Eric Russell wrote:
> There should be a small amount of free play at the pushrod to master 
> cylinder piston (~ 1/16" which translates to ~ 3/8" at the pedal). 
> This ensures the piston is able to fully return to the off position.
>
> Check the pushrod & clevis pin at the slave cylinder. Since they are 
> exposed to the elements they will often wear - the hole in the pushrod 
> becoming elongated & the clevis pin looking more like a mini 
> crankshaft. All that lost motion means the clutch doesn't operate 
> through a full stroke.
>
> EjR
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    <p>Second para is not correct, the self-adjusting nature of the
      clutch means wear at the slave end is automatically compensated
      for.  I know I have no experience of the MGA but read Barney
      Gaylord's page, the paragraph commencing "One of the key features
      ...": <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/clutch/ct_100.htm">https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/clutch/ct_100.htm</a></p>
    <p>Yes there should be some free play at the pedal.  If the master
      piston can't come back the bypass port may not open and fluid not
      be able to flow freely between reservoir and  slave with the pedal
      released.  This is essential so that fluid expansion as the system
      heats up does not apply excess pressure to the release bearing
      with the pedal released which can cause clutch slip, and also to
      allow the self-adjusting function to operate correctly.  OTOH too
      much free play e.g. from worn components there causes a low biting
      point, which is why I said if the biting point is fine then leave
      it alone.<br>
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    <p>PaulH.<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/10/2023 18:25, Eric Russell
      wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">There should
          be a small amount of free play at the pushrod to master
          cylinder piston (~ 1/16" which translates to ~ 3/8" at the
          pedal). This ensures the piston is able to fully return to the
          off position. </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">Check the
          pushrod &amp; clevis pin at the slave cylinder. Since they are
          exposed to the elements they will often wear - the hole in the
          pushrod becoming elongated &amp; the clevis pin looking more
          like a mini crankshaft. All that lost motion means the clutch
          doesn't operate through a full stroke. </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:large">EjR <br>
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> Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2023 08:33:33 +0000
> From: Paul Hunt <paulbhunt73@gmail.com>
>
> Second para is not correct, the self-adjusting nature of the clutch
> means wear at the slave end is automatically compensated for.? I know I
> have no experience of the MGA but read Barney Gaylord's page, the
> paragraph commencing "One of the key features ...":
> https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/clutch/ct_100.htm

Yes, the hydraulic clutch will compensate for wear in the *clutch*
components. But wear in the operating parts (like the slave's
pushrod/clevis) results in lost motion - the first bit of movement of the
slave cylinder will only take up the slack and not actually move the clutch
fork.

-- 
Eric Russell
Mebane, NC

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"">&gt; Date: Tue, 31=
 Oct 2023 08:33:33 +0000<br style=3D"">&gt; From: Paul Hunt &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:paulbhunt73@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"">paulbhunt73@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt;<br style=3D"">&gt;=C2=A0<br style=3D"">&gt; Second para is no=
t correct, the self-adjusting nature of the clutch<br style=3D"">&gt; means=
 wear at the slave end is automatically compensated for.? I know I<br style=
=3D"">&gt; have no experience of the MGA but read Barney Gaylord&#39;s page=
, the<br style=3D"">&gt; paragraph commencing &quot;One of the key features=
 ...&quot;:<br style=3D"">&gt;=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://mgaguru.com/mgtech/c=
lutch/ct_100.htm" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"">https://m=
gaguru.com/mgtech/clutch/ct_100.htm</a>=C2=A0<br clear=3D"all"></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_default" style=3D""><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" st=
yle=3D"">Yes, the hydraulic clutch will compensate for wear in the *clutch*=
 components. But wear in the operating parts (like the slave&#39;s pushrod/=
clevis) results in lost motion - the first bit of movement of the slave cyl=
inder will only take up the slack and not actually move the clutch fork.=C2=
=A0</div><div><br></div><span class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><b=
r><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signat=
ure"><div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"4">Eric Russell</font><div><font size=
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