Have you tried backing off the adjustment = screws?

From:<= /b> = Morgans [mailto:morgans-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of = Wbeech@flash.net
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2018 5:41 = PM
To: John T. Blair <jblair1948@cox.net>
Cc: = morgans@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Morgans] Rear brakes = stuck

Same = process, got to get them loose enough to turn or remove. I would = say that wheel cylinder rebuilds are in your = future.

Bill B

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On Nov 24, 2018, at 3:38 PM, John T. = Blair <jblair1948@cox.net> = wrote:

At 02:54 PM 11/24/2018, Bill B = wrote:

>Had the same problem with friends BN1 Healey. I = used a 4lb soft-blow hammer
>around the drum and got to where we = could GENTLY pry it off with a couple of
>flat bars, or long = tommy bars.

>Please be careful, a steel hammer or prying = vigorously could break the drum.

Bill,

Thanks. Yes = I'll be careful. My problem is NOT getting the drums off, it's = getting
the wheels to turn so I can drive it or get it on a tow truck = and have it moved to
my place. :)

John

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------=_NextPart_000_08BA_01D484AA.6DB03C00-- --===============7426108476731213959== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Morgans@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============7426108476731213959==-- From morgans-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 19:30:57 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7AA52589A6F for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2018 19:30:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: morgans@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo201.cox.net (eastrmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.216]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26229258842D for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2018 18:25:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from eastrmimpo109.cox.net ([68.230.241.222]) by eastrmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.28 201-2260-151-171-20160122) with ESMTP id <20181126012456.KFOF4400.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo109.cox.net> for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2018 20:24:56 -0500 Received: from John-PC.cox.net ([24.254.212.64]) by eastrmimpo109.cox.net with cox id 4RQv1z00V1Pvf1k01RQwB2; Sun, 25 Nov 2018 20:24:56 -0500 a=2VJ3ooessDXm0mWjmLS4yg==:117 a=YgNhU7a423cA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=q6SfDYXhAAAA:8 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8 a=kys2UyXWj07vxxawFQMA:9 a=2pBnExccRLRZP-iW:21 a=Wnv_DsOUbhyeHtNn:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=aav4MXMyVXkA:10 a=4zxjrV59PHAA:10 a=bz_d9vehOyUA:10 a=d3HqEWtef7gtI58bfR8A:9 a=Wiq3EPqYKaE5VdeO:21 a=wip-9NCeDCnGziYv:21 a=8p4Yn3UCzc45JpD2:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=qrIFiuKZe2vaD64auk6j:22 a=GGGinmgZRQXmVEG1E52S:22 a=R7nWeq4dleIJhz-CJ_3q:22 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=jblair1948@cox.net Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 20:23:13 -0500 To: From: "John T. Blair" References: <6.2.5.6.1.20181124133104.04be42b8@cox.net> <6.2.5.6.1.20181124163708.04cad848@cox.net> <257C23AF-0AAC-4202-B875-E811AE81BAB9@flash.net> <08b901d484d4$5684e470$038ead50$@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Morgans] Rear brakes stuck Errors-To: morgans-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0310634637872650122== boundary="=====================_40729645==.ALT" --=====================_40729645==.ALT At 10:34 AM 11/25/2018, William Lyons wrote: >Have you tried backing off the adjustment screws? William, No not yet. I haven't been back over to work on the car since I discovered the problem. The kids came home for Thanksgiving, so spent the time with the family. We'll see how the weather is this next week or so. John John T. Blair WA4OHZ email: jblair1948@cox.net Va. Beach, Va Phone: (757) 495-8229 48 TR1800 48 #4 Midget 65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1106) 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887) 77 Spitfire 71 Saab Sonett III 65 Rambler Classic Morgan: www.team.net/morgan Bricklin: www.bricklin.org If you can read this - Thank a teacher! If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!! From Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy: e pluribus Unum, "from many, one." In God We Trust Liberty - the power of choosing, thinking, and acting for oneself; freedom from control or restriction --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus --=====================_40729645==.ALT At 10:34 AM 11/25/2018, William Lyons wrote:

>Have you tried backing off the adjustment screws?

William,

No not yet. I haven't been back over to work on the car since I discovered the
problem. The kids came home for Thanksgiving, so spent the time with the family. We'll see how the weather is this next week or so.

John

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          48 TR1800    48 #4 Midget    65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1106)

     75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887)    77 Spitfire    71 Saab Sonett III

                       65 Rambler Classic

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Bricklin:     www.bricklin.org

If you can read this             - Thank a teacher!

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From Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy:

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--=====================_40729645==.ALT-- --===============0310634637872650122== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Morgans@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0310634637872650122==-- From morgans-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Nov 25 21:25:56 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135EA2589ACE for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2018 21:25:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: morgans@autox.team.net Received: from omr-a020e.mx.aol.com (omr-a020e.mx.aol.com [204.29.186.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E0C22589AA0 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2018 20:58:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-aan01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aan01.mx.aol.com [172.27.19.79]) by omr-a020e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 49F363800084; Sun, 25 Nov 2018 22:58:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-aab04g.mail.aol.com (core-aab04.mail.aol.com [172.27.9.4]) by mtaomg-aan01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3613038000081; Sun, 25 Nov 2018 22:58:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from 108.51.243.84 by webjas-vaa207.srv.aolmail.net (10.96.33.210) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 25 Nov 2018 22:58:32 -0500 Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2018 22:58:32 -0500 From: Richard Cooperman To: jblair1948@cox.net, morgans@autox.team.net s=20150623; t=1543204717; bh=8hd3WoHMd5aWwklwZgTBofRVQuC5GRnRl6k9rm4YioY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1yvWnj9cvumagbu6jjd9Rx0lJjTQ/9DNWSC7blY96U9SsCunAmMDuloVgQncFG+gi shHgh2W02Go5Qm1dinuZUDsyHxHaMxHNMNisOCUuygUQAl0ftccrYZfopbUVM2gSa9 dOiltfH7k/hoDWTyX509qMw6zqWgo2gseh7AFk88= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b134f5bfb6f681d55 Subject: Re: [Morgans] Rear brakes stuck Errors-To: morgans-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0958867839653359743== boundary="----=_Part_11632_1398956563.1543204712114" ------=_Part_11632_1398956563.1543204712114 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi John, =C2=A0 What William suggested brought to mind what I did when one of my rear brake= s froze up about ten years ago.=C2=A0 It was a nice summers day and I drove= my '67 4/4 off for about a 10 mile lunch run.=C2=A0 When I stopped there w= as an unpleasant smell from driver's side rear and a smoking brake drum.=C2= =A0=20 =C2=A0 After some thought over lunch, I did exactly what William suggested=C2=A0 -= I backed off the adjustment screw on the affected wheel.=C2=A0 That freed = the wheel up and I was able to carefully drive home with just the front bra= kes operative.=C2=A0 If I remember right the drum came off easily.=C2=A0 I = needed new brake shoes and I replaced both rear wheel brake cylinders.=C2= =A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Richard =C2=A0 In a message dated 11/25/2018 9:30:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, jblair1948@= cox.net writes: =C2=A0 At 10:34 AM 11/25/2018, William Lyons wrote: >Have you tried backing off the adjustment screws? William, No not yet.=C2=A0 I haven't been back over to work on the car since I disc= overed the problem.=C2=A0 The kids came home for Thanksgiving, so spent the time with= the family.=C2=A0 We'll see how the weather is this next week or so. John Avast logoThis email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus softwa= re.=20 www.avast.com John T. Blair=C2=A0 WA4OHZ=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 email:=C2=A0 jblair1948@= cox.net Va. Beach, Va=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Phone:=C2=A0 (757) 495-8229 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 48 TR1800=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 48 #4 Midget=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1106) =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887)=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 77 Spitf= ire=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 71 Saab Sonett III =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 65 Rambler Classi= c Morgan:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 www.team.net/morgan Bricklin:=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 www.bricklin.org If you can read this=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - Thank a teacher! If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!! >From Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy: =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 e pluribus Unum, "from many, one." =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 In God We Trust =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Liberty - the=C2=A0 power=C2=A0 of=C2=A0 choosing,= =C2=A0 thinking,=C2=A0 and=C2=A0 acting=C2=A0 for=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 oneself; freedom=C2=A0 from=C2=A0 control=C2=A0= or=C2=A0 restriction=C2=A0 _______________________________________________ Morgans@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive n@aol.com ------=_Part_11632_1398956563.1543204712114 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi John,

What William suggested brought to mind what I did when one of my rear brakes froze up about ten years ago. It was a nice summers day and I drove my '67 4/4 off for about a 10 mile lunch run. When I stopped there was an unpleasant smell from driver's side rear and a smoking brake drum.

After some thought over lunch, I did exactly what William suggested - I backed off the adjustment screw on the affected wheel. That freed the wheel up and I was able to carefully drive home with just the front brakes operative. If I remember right the drum came off easily. I needed new brake shoes and I replaced both rear wheel brake cylinders.

Richard

In a message dated 11/25/2018 9:30:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, jblair1948@cox.net writes:

At 10:34 AM 11/25/2018, William Lyons wrote:

>Have you tried backing off the adjustment screws?

William,

No not yet. I haven't been back over to work on the car since I discovered the
problem. The kids came home for Thanksgiving, so spent the time with the family. We'll see how the weather is this next week or so.

John

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          48 TR1800    48 #4 Midget    65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1106)

     75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887)    77 Spitfire    71 Saab Sonett III

                       65 Rambler Classic

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Bricklin:     www.bricklin.org

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     In God We Trust

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>What William suggested brought to mind what I did when one of my rear brakes
> froze up about ten years ago. It was a nice summers day and I drove my '67
>4/4 off for about a 10 mile lunch run. When I stopped there was an unpleasant
>smell from driver's side rear and a smoking brake drum. ........

Richard,

Thanks for the input.

When I get a chance to go work on the car, I'll let you all know how it goes.

John

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     75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887)    77 Spitfire    71 Saab Sonett III

                       65 Rambler Classic

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