From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun May 1 00:27:27 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05B62588E26 for ; Sun, 1 May 2016 00:27:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo101.cox.net (eastrmfepo101.cox.net [68.230.241.213]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A002585ECA for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 12:44:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo305.cox.net ([68.230.241.237]) by eastrmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20160430184418.XGXV10784.eastrmfepo101.cox.net@eastrmimpo305.cox.net> for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 14:44:18 -0400 Received: from John-PC.cox.net ([24.254.213.227]) by eastrmimpo305.cox.net with cox id oikH1s0044uwYHU01ikHz7; Sat, 30 Apr 2016 14:44:17 -0400 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 a=1uXzHskWtM6b6G3593e3IQ==:117 a=1uXzHskWtM6b6G3593e3IQ==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=q6SfDYXhAAAA:8 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8 a=kys2UyXWj07vxxawFQMA:9 a=9AKfOWRzGfoiyblL:21 a=T7QyuEICUu7NzLUs:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=aav4MXMyVXkA:10 a=4zxjrV59PHAA:10 a=bz_d9vehOyUA:10 a=5kdxaCM7W_-l4pY1QdAA:9 a=U3JiycyTrTx060DZ:21 a=eQBWrMC1no0E5tkO:21 a=2cb5K8r_sMr5KEgT:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 14:43:32 -0400 To: shop-talk@autox.team.net From: "John T. Blair" References: Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Classic car insurance tangents...a follow up Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8023268901308715473== boundary="=====================_4653509==.ALT" --=====================_4653509==.ALT At 11:19 AM 4/29/2016, you wrote: >Second, a knock on grundy: I looked into them when I got my Dad's Roadster. >At that time both of my daughters were in high school; one of which had her >license, and the wife and I both had clean driving records. Well, because my >daughter didn't have her own car, grundy denied me coverage stating "the teen >driver might take the Roadster for a drive because she didn't have her own car". >(<-----this is almost verbatim) It didn't matter that the child didn't know how to >drive a manual or that fact that she wasn't allowed to drive it. I have good kids >and it would never have been an issue when they were still at home. That's not just Grundy. I ran into that with JC Taylor, so I left my Morgan titled in my father's name. John John T. Blair WA4OHZ email: jblair1948@cox.net Va. Beach, Va Phone: (757) 495-8229 48 TR1800 48 #4 Midget 65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1106) 75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887) 77 Spitfire 71 Saab Sonett III 65 Rambler Classic Morgan: www.team.net/www/morgan Bricklin: www.bricklin.org If you can read this - Thank a teacher! If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!! From Dennis Prager - The American Trilogy: e pluribus Unum, "from many, one." In God We Trust Liberty - the power of choosing, thinking, and acting for oneself; freedom from control or restriction --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus --=====================_4653509==.ALT At 11:19 AM 4/29/2016, you wrote:

>Second, a knock on grundy: I looked into them when I got my Dad's Roadster.
>At that time both of my daughters were in high school; one of which had her
>license, and the wife and I both had clean driving records. Well, because my
>daughter didn't have her own car, grundy denied me coverage stating "the teen
>driver might take the Roadster for a drive because she didn't have her own car".
>(<-----this is almost verbatim) It didn't matter that the child didn't know how to
>drive a manual or that fact that she wasn't allowed to drive it. I have good kids
>and it would never have been an issue when they were still at home.

That's not just Grundy.  I ran into that with JC Taylor, so I left my Morgan titled
in my father's name. 

John


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John T. Blair  WA4OHZ     email:  jblair1948@cox.net
Va. Beach, Va                  Phone:  (757) 495-8229

          48 TR1800    48 #4 Midget    65 Morgan 4/4 Series V (B1106)
     75 Bricklin SV1 (#0887)    77 Spitfire    71 Saab Sonett III
                       65 Rambler Classic

Bricklin:  www.bricklin.org

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If you are reading it in English - Thank a Vet!!

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     e pluribus Unum, "from many, one."
     In God We Trust
     Liberty - the  power  of  choosing,  thinking,  and  acting  for 
                  oneself; freedom  from  control  or  restriction 


--=====================_4653509==.ALT-- --===============8023268901308715473== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8023268901308715473==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun May 1 04:57:39 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18F0D2588F8E for ; Sun, 1 May 2016 04:57:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8992588D49 for ; Sun, 1 May 2016 00:12:32 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=LG5R0g0gdUwC2+beOoRCFJMFVGRADT4Wgpko2ZvMe8ECqaP1/nDoO+fhHb0BJImA; h=Received:Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [172.6.8.36] (helo=[192.168.1.3]) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1awkcD-0004E4-JZ; Sun, 01 May 2016 02:12:25 -0400 To: markmiller@threeboysfarm.com, shop-talk@autox.team.net References: From: Brian Kemp Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2016 23:12:15 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.0 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Tool review: HF rotary hammer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I have an older version of one of their SDS rotary hammers (like the current $90 ones) and second the recommendation for this type of tool. I have the flat chisel set (#42651) and used it several times on bathroom demo. The narrow chisel was great for breaking off wall tile. The wider chisel was great at removing glued down vinyl floor. I peeled up nice strips with very little effort. I also used it to break the cement and lath free of the wall studs when my arms were too tired to keep banging the pry bar with the small sledge hammer. Need to drill a 1" hole through a 8" poured concrete wall? This works for that too. The only place where I needed more was breaking a floor slab to replace failed drain pipes. This tool wasn't up to that task, so I upgraded to a 35lb breaker hammer and it went right through the floor. For your own safety, don't forget eye and ear protection. When working indoors, I also add a box fan hanging the window to exhaust the dust and wear a respirator. It isn't good to taste the air. Brian On 4/30/2016 10:17 PM, Mark Miller wrote: > Hi. Just wanted to post a positive review for a tool I got yesterday > at HF. I needed to peel up a couple of hundred feet of 12" ceramic > tiles glued down to a concrete slab prior to putting in some > engineered bamboo flooring. Took a few whacks with a sledge then > bought a HF 1 9/16" sds max rotary hammer (#69334). Went on sale this > week for $100, set of bits for just under half that. I got it the day > before the sale info came out but with 20% off it was $103. Close > enough to not go whine for the difference. > > > http://www.harborfreight.com/1-916-in-85-amp-heavy-duty-sds-max-type-variable-speed-rotary-hammer-69334.html > > > What a great decision. Tile chips and dust everywhere and all tile up > with just a few hours of work. > > _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun May 1 10:41:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6839525879DD for ; Sun, 1 May 2016 10:41:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f172.google.com (mail-ig0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91245258908D for ; Sun, 1 May 2016 07:31:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f172.google.com with SMTP id s8so55641014ign.0 for ; Sun, 01 May 2016 06:31:59 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=ulUz+UXZh6EHN94MaUW5r8mkPH6S0AHYxpNmDl9Kx6I=; b=NyCSlTiDG3zoejMsEZ+Bb5ae6tjOkdKx+DImdDIJKjl3GnYX6zu3bpERXYLPO8rBM4 t8afpuf+lE6BgCbketIN+3zTdgf+ytr9eHgn6+0aQe0o/xLu3nVjhCIchfoQn+hbQQ80 2MN71PBBRUuQutz4OiwlmOWQV69sOD+XBCAsSMGzyMcqk0+ZY4R+Mgo72yUPcXWWHskr EvXNZi+uQw+XHjRhysEIleBWu1GZOjVbbpyyMf2jsgzgKfjt1lbYzcYxAUBFJg7mkW8/ gBWN636ZyBw3rqzRogsgHeoiM0HMO/ytI1DZ9z7Wt/sT9VxsUo8U/hRCJ2JDjE0bFHXc 8MAA== d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=ulUz+UXZh6EHN94MaUW5r8mkPH6S0AHYxpNmDl9Kx6I=; b=DuwpDZrefD3CGZrUK4m9G6PmgiJWuRDG1f92mmztAJH06S5/O3RO+IFeKwKifdflij 3YQ4e3sg5UbRVDorYAah3uol6K49nAkTUUlZnjMp6gp5FjmC/jBjJcZE8oKg1+TGZUpz 2m9JyRvCV7YixJXIq1N8OqkcObiu55ncZmJ40uHCw60+rAvdN4DoaIkdU4LWgs18XJVs V/Tr6CQUIrxQmv2k3HGI9ooSMWv50t+tsyfYQ9osIi6+BEp8lUxN25KDtM/HVZFByz+A 7BIU6dpqSkpQUdM7D7qWCyyj9UdjiyX0R0c5D5h68BKB1s0WXI030TY2+hQvhmSVZn4K kBJA== Sun, 01 May 2016 06:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.209.68 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2016 06:31:48 -0700 (PDT) References: <6.2.5.6.1.20160430144051.04c92da8@cox.net> Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 09:31:48 -0400 From: Jeff Scarbrough To: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Classic car insurance tangents...a follow up Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2497529899935315846== --047d7b3a9b4ce909a90531c7e555 > > >It didn't matter that the child didn't know how to > >drive a manual or that fact that she wasn't allowed to drive it. I have > good kids > >and it would never have been an issue when they were still at home. > > That's not just Grundy. I ran into that with JC Taylor, so I left my > Morgan titled > in my father's name. > > And pretty much every insurance company ever. I trust that you have good kids, but I'm not going to stake my financial future on it. Neither will the insurance company. If there's a teen with a driver's license in the house, then they have to have a regular car, or they become a potential driver for your car. Even with standard insurance for regular cars, you must assign one to the teen driver, so that the appropriate charge may be made. Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. --047d7b3a9b4ce909a90531c7e555 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable




>It did= n't matter that the child didn't know how to
>drive a manual or that fact that she wasn't allowed to drive it. I have good kids
>and it would never have been an issue when they were still at home.

That's not just Grundy.=C2=A0 I ran into that with JC Taylor, so I left my Morgan titled
in my father's name.=C2=A0


And pretty much every insurance co= mpany ever.=C2=A0 I trust that you have good kids, but I'm not going to= stake my financial future on it.=C2=A0 Neither will the insurance company.=

If there's a teen with a driver's license= in the house, then they have to have a regular car, or they become a poten= tial driver for your car.=C2=A0 Even with standard insurance for regular ca= rs, you must assign one to the teen driver, so that the appropriate charge = may be made. =C2=A0

Jeff Scarbrough
Corr= osion Acres, Ga.


--047d7b3a9b4ce909a90531c7e555-- --===============2497529899935315846== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2497529899935315846==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun May 1 14:32:02 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BC92588DB8 for ; Sun, 1 May 2016 14:32:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from dogbert2.mail.megageek.com (nj-69-34-94-16.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.94.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2662587DAF for ; Sun, 1 May 2016 09:17:25 -0600 (MDT) To: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net From: eric@megageek.com Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 10:45:44 -0400 05/01/2016 10:45:51, Serialize complete at 05/01/2016 10:45:51 Subject: [Shop-talk] fiberglass cleaning Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============6650903271260526307== This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0053FEEC85257FA6_= Does anyone know how to clean off fiberglass hazing that has been sitting in the sun for years? I have a Hovercraft that has hazing on any place that wasn't covered with a sticker or trim. I'm guessing there are compounds out there, but I wanted someone with experience on which ones actually work (or is there a shop-made way to do it better?) Shop content- this is the first Hovercraft restoration I've done in my shop! 8>) Thanks again guys Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. Eric P "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson --=_alternative 0053FEEC85257FA6_=
Does anyone know how to clean off fiberglass hazing that has been sitting in the sun for years?  I have a Hovercraft that has hazing on any place that wasn't covered with a sticker or trim.

I'm guessing there are compounds out there, but I wanted someone with experience on which ones actually work (or is there a shop-made way to do it better?)

Shop content- this is the first Hovercraft restoration I've done in my shop! 8>)

Thanks again guys

Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson --=_alternative 0053FEEC85257FA6_=-- --===============6650903271260526307== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6650903271260526307==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun May 1 21:59:55 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC572585A04 for ; Sun, 1 May 2016 21:59:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from homiemail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (sub5.mail.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBF8C2587D12 for ; Sun, 1 May 2016 15:42:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from homiemail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A321118057 for ; Sun, 1 May 2016 14:42:08 -0700 (PDT) :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:message-id:date :to:mime-version; s=groupwbench.org; bh=TI/f0qaL+8mLccwgB2CWopxz NbA=; b=R/JuFEWtY0pBED5G3xfdxMea1JAuAFSmPURGSis5mrrGNLNIPcMCRkQv Up3kTEWzRkHw93ZbyanY7cvchvONsTj/YjuO4zBoIWn5YNAV+hmmUk5+pctJbp9W 63SNxxKJ2c58itS30ZNyxvfacBto+Bb2bfso0sC77RTUQ36S1MU= Received: from jims-imac.home (pool-98-118-109-236.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [98.118.109.236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jamesf@groupwbench.org) by homiemail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id CD555118056 for ; Sun, 1 May 2016 14:42:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Franklin Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 17:42:06 -0400 To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: [Shop-talk] Fixing LCD TVs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net According to shopjimmy.com (parts purveyor) this isn't too hard. I have a "free" LCD that the picture suddenly went out on while in use. Reportedly still had sound, but since the sound input source is menu driven, and I can't see the menu, I have not yet been able to have it spit out sound. The above webpage says if you can see the menu display in a dark room with a flashlight pointed at the screen, the problem is the inverter board. I replaced it for $40 and...no change. So now I'm thinking it's the power supply to that board. The low voltage cabe tests fine. There's a high voltage line with no specs so I can't test it. But there's a capacitor right next to the transformers that looks like this: http://groupwbench.org/InsigniaCap.JPG Is that blown, or just poorly covered? The power supply is out of stock, probably permanently. jim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun May 1 23:17:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99C86258845D for ; Sun, 1 May 2016 23:17:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f51.google.com (mail-qg0-f51.google.com [209.85.192.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EF72588698 for ; Sun, 1 May 2016 16:24:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id f92so62913126qgf.0 for ; Sun, 01 May 2016 15:24:05 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=CzdGyEp+E1dwQpcyT1bBebjhmniskdgdQJUKtEJcssA=; b=DadRy15kNJHmARMVnDylaLW+WRAu/PBYJS+yCG06spSRNixKA2ZaZtiUnqwjdr3gqo CDApw8SFBaHtKRx32/GgvoxIUobr+EizGhxYjesPPtmxbp57KDZp/GnSyy/hJbRRDPLG 1NIrDAmYPieb/Hjmcj1N2hGprAwqi2iZZorJdWtiPOuDP+hezzy2P04sFz/YDcGEnCFJ rVsJfgOx9TUMxXZdoxC/BWkBfelSFJvgsveShwCuWVhuGtSCrSrOhFcoi8/mdxR6D5l6 JCHXDfTt4BTaKlOOOGkypA83FkzzdTp+khVz3aR5GslrHE3ks6j/mJ9o+IoLxfCekVmG mYjw== d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=CzdGyEp+E1dwQpcyT1bBebjhmniskdgdQJUKtEJcssA=; b=fSCQr+aLELlXXhguWvsFGEB5kvh9hFl7Ra4T30XfZVuqt3nVdLdbzevXQ5ZFalkR+j LSZ54VOTCramAqwxrZBckJ5Zorb2T6OjI150H8Oi6NasyhjkySPJxMFqy6Arp5phQ8oa zZMNFrWUZ9Gg+rfbbtd8LObTeAwH2+V2y9LHoy1jk66ivG/F+d5YNnoXe3kUeAFvCBuD C8OgVgl8OeGtWuYF3UTEKzKAKDeGtAFIbrOwK/RkHFqJ2grGUJGTkYvErvmcM/h6eiK9 BkI1u0g6TWR5XX7xvq3PA7JXEwQq2mT0SCUv06i3PO5kKunuaYU6Jv7C2GgmFN5WxUs7 Uipw== Sun, 01 May 2016 15:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.55.47.1 with HTTP; Sun, 1 May 2016 15:24:04 -0700 (PDT) References: <6.2.5.6.1.20160430144051.04c92da8@cox.net> Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 18:24:04 -0400 From: Larry Spector To: Jeff Scarbrough Cc: "shop-talk@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Classic car insurance tangents...a follow up Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2803943240875547078== --001a11394e6c68e8560531cf5530 I was able to minimize the pain from this by putting my two fun cars on "lay-up storage" for the winter. Basically, I tell the agent that the cars are off the road for at least a 90 day interval which lets me assign my teen driver as a part-time driver on one of the other cars. Without this, they wanted to make him primary driver on my Integra-R, which was not good for rates... -Larry On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 9:31 AM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote: > > > >> >> >It didn't matter that the child didn't know how to >> >drive a manual or that fact that she wasn't allowed to drive it. I have >> good kids >> >and it would never have been an issue when they were still at home. >> >> That's not just Grundy. I ran into that with JC Taylor, so I left my >> Morgan titled >> in my father's name. >> >> > And pretty much every insurance company ever. I trust that you have good > kids, but I'm not going to stake my financial future on it. Neither will > the insurance company. > > If there's a teen with a driver's license in the house, then they have to > have a regular car, or they become a potential driver for your car. Even > with standard insurance for regular cars, you must assign one to the teen > driver, so that the appropriate charge may be made. > > Jeff Scarbrough > Corrosion Acres, Ga. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/lspector@gmail.com > > > --001a11394e6c68e8560531cf5530 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I was able to minimize the pain from this by putting my tw= o fun cars on "lay-up storage" for the winter. Basically, I tell = the agent that the cars are off the road for at least a 90 day interval whi= ch lets me assign my teen driver as a part-time driver on one of the other = cars. Without this, they wanted to make him primary driver on my Integra-R,= which was not good for rates...

-Larry=C2=A0

On Sun, May 1, 2= 016 at 9:31 AM, Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com> wrot= e:




>It didn't matter that the child didn't know how to
>drive a manual or that fact that she wasn't allowed to drive it. I have good kids
>and it would never have been an issue when they were still at home.

That's not just Grundy.=C2=A0 I ran into that with JC Taylor, so I left my Morgan titled
in my father's name.=C2=A0


And pretty much every insurance co= mpany ever.=C2=A0 I trust that you have good kids, but I'm not going to= stake my financial future on it.=C2=A0 Neither will the insurance company.=

If there's a teen with a driver's license= in the house, then they have to have a regular car, or they become a poten= tial driver for your car.=C2=A0 Even with standard insurance for regular ca= rs, you must assign one to the teen driver, so that the appropriate charge = may be made. =C2=A0

Jeff Scarbrough
Corrosion Acres, Ga.
<= br>


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--001a11394e6c68e8560531cf5530-- --===============2803943240875547078== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2803943240875547078==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon May 2 02:43:36 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C8B0258913B for ; Mon, 2 May 2016 02:43:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail.milleredp.com (fw.milleredp.com [198.144.208.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA2D2588455 for ; Sun, 1 May 2016 22:09:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.1.2.100] ([::ffff:10.1.2.100]) (AUTH: PLAIN jem, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,128bits,AES128-SHA) by mail.milleredp.com with ESMTPSA; Sun, 01 May 2016 21:09:07 -0700 id 00000000002800AD.000000005726D2E3.0000637C To: shop-talk@autox.team.net References: From: John Miller Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 21:09:07 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.0 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Tool review: HF rotary hammer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net On 4/30/2016 10:17 PM, Mark Miller wrote: > Hi. Just wanted to post a positive review for a tool I got yesterday at > HF. I have the older version of this as well. Clunkier than the Hiltis and etc. you can rent from Home Depot, the controls are clunkier and it doesn't FEEL as good. But...you can OWN it for the price of a day or two RENTAL on one of those. It blows anchor holes in concrete just about as well. It chisels, it drills, it does all the things the expensive ones do. It might not last as long in daily contractor use, but if you use it twice a month or so like I do, it seems like it'll last a very long time. I just used it this afternoon to break up a sack of concrete I'd left out in the rain into two weeks of garbage-can-sized chunks. I wouldn't have spent $30 to rent something to do that. I have three more such sacks to break up in subsequent weeks. John. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon May 2 03:01:32 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D9E2587C42 for ; Mon, 2 May 2016 03:01:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mr11p24im-asmtp003.me.com (mr11p24im-asmtp003.me.com [17.110.78.109]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AAAB2588589 for ; Sun, 1 May 2016 22:21:44 -0600 (MDT) mr11p24im-asmtp003.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.36.0 64bit (built Sep 8 2015)) id <0O6J00K007Y6CW00@mr11p24im-asmtp003.me.com> for Shop-talk@autox.team.net; Mon, 02 May 2016 04:21:36 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.50.62] (unknown [184.105.18.14]) by mr11p24im-asmtp003.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.36.0 64bit (built Sep 8 2015)) with ESMTPSA id <0O6J009E483X4T40@mr11p24im-asmtp003.me.com>; Mon, 02 May 2016 04:21:36 +0000 (GMT) definitions=2016-05-02_02:,, signatures=0 clxscore=1015 suspectscore=9 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1510270003 definitions=main-1605020069 References: From: Pat Horne Date: Sun, 01 May 2016 23:21:32 -0500 To: Jim Franklin t=1462162896; bh=/JjN0A5dcfAHV/J0lIub5l6WLUqnSTMrqVd7oThAXGU=; h=MIME-version:Content-type:Message-id:From:Subject:Date:To; b=g6jkd+TvQBjeOyQJYdgCb1szNLHZlz5Q7AATewoH62sPjOusFR0ONqCfg/ErZfpfS YyKfdM4t8ak2QZ9t87uCKvbbDfaXYuASHkwRFKiBuSzJbq+ZR4+j8ln+F3oTqPgLMb 68wsPR82GmGBxamM3Pjw3u/QJ2RK1ZnbdMKpQPyhpfqpIR0lKrGuJrItj9/8olcjB6 gII4Q6unj7DnLd3GKMx4JOfjEkggwHrAtmBASAYvUiqu3JxHgchFsR2070uMiX9j1K q+UNxBiPFuMBS9eGHaHuV0KaqjaGaz89KtXSdJ3tKas+TvFfjyBXg1Yw4LYJXvfywN eT4UBohPv1okw== Cc: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Fixing LCD TVs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Jim, It may (probably) blown. I'v seen cracks like this on older sets that are working fine. I'd replace it though, shouldn't be expensive. Peace, Pat Pat Horne We support Caldwell County Habitat for Humanity On May 1, 2016, at 4:42 PM, Jim Franklin wrote: According to shopjimmy.com (parts purveyor) this isn't too hard. I have a "free" LCD that the picture suddenly went out on while in use. Reportedly still had sound, but since the sound input source is menu driven, and I can't see the menu, I have not yet been able to have it spit out sound. The above webpage says if you can see the menu display in a dark room with a flashlight pointed at the screen, the problem is the inverter board. I replaced it for $40 and...no change. So now I'm thinking it's the power supply to that board. The low voltage cabe tests fine. There's a high voltage line with no specs so I can't test it. But there's a capacitor right next to the transformers that looks like this: http://groupwbench.org/InsigniaCap.JPG Is that blown, or just poorly covered? The power supply is out of stock, probably permanently. jim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon May 2 03:19:57 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2E32586EBF for ; Mon, 2 May 2016 03:19:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D80442588A50 for ; Sun, 1 May 2016 23:02:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.248.153.253] ([172.248.153.253:4706] helo=rypc) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 2F/B4-23120-27FD6275; Mon, 02 May 2016 05:02:42 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Jim Franklin'" , Date: Sun, 1 May 2016 22:02:39 -0700 Thread-Index: AdGkJ7/bfihA3tpoRHCHQQfEHTjpNgAB0Urw Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Fixing LCD TVs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net > The low voltage cabe tests fine. There's a high voltage line > with no specs so I can't test it. But there's a capacitor > right next to the transformers that looks like this: > > http://groupwbench.org/InsigniaCap.JPG Sure looks busted to me! Unfortunately, it probably took some other components with it. I've seen a couple of designs lately for ESR testers; that usually claim they can be used in-circuit. Eg, http://www.ebay.com/itm/Anatek-Blue-ESR-Capacitor-Tester-Meter-Complete-Kit-for-Assy-/252151208911?hash=item3ab5621bcf:g:ErUAAOxydgZ TJ77b -- Randall _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon May 2 13:16:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1192125882D1 for ; Mon, 2 May 2016 13:16:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.33]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 083A82588ED5 for ; Mon, 2 May 2016 10:41:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.105]) by comcast with SMTP id xGtQaLbelfr8TxGudaSsMa; Mon, 02 May 2016 16:41:35 +0000 s=q20140121; t=1462207295; bh=cJouDs6hiPFaJ0+CStOBhzQp073fSDoCvADyhYDmAps=; h=Received:Received:Subject:To:From:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=M8afnY4QwIpbg+zS5ay0ezYYMyf8KVniKK1yOA22cldk5NZxvyvbGtFbHNIDgI4tA LCyr2lZu7t8YDmTfhuMej4UH/YKa8LXMpgKJGq+4cXgCa4kEKXVuJkyEUFD3Q6X3Yr /Sx4b7Ng5laPiY5/xO7bvj8nhkg3AQd1KAt6TeofBRoDokW3ynmuoyNJalmcjYyyRJ jOd8ZGCyGxbx07Z7f3i+8CrDjPgLhIR+7R8vorGfJQQ+LiE2AOJP7YcuqWH4cy2lxX cizy2z41hURPxXL6XhpMiz/yPcdXPcLRDleYmxj9nJM23ubi/yDiec1zbv3bdKmpJT GRf72t0q+tkJw== Received: from [192.168.1.22] ([73.149.85.170]) by resomta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id pUha1s00R3gWFQx01UhbSQ; Mon, 02 May 2016 16:41:35 +0000 To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net References: From: "Peter J. Thomas" Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 12:41:41 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.0 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Fixing LCD TVs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Definitely a blown cap which is pretty common with bargain TV's. I'm assuming it is a BestBuy Insignia TV. You could replace the cap but I'd bet it would blow again. These low end TV's to just enough engineering to make them work, use the lowest cost parts, and they don't have long life spans. On 5/1/2016 5:42 PM, Jim Franklin wrote: > The low voltage cabe tests fine. There's a high voltage line with no specs so I can't test it. But there's a capacitor right next to the transformers that looks like this: > > http://groupwbench.org/InsigniaCap.JPG > > Is that blown, or just poorly covered? > > The power supply is out of stock, probably permanently. > > jim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue May 3 01:27:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B24AC25885A6 for ; Tue, 3 May 2016 01:27:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from homiemail-a93.g.dreamhost.com (sub5.mail.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D342587A98 for ; Mon, 2 May 2016 18:51:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from homiemail-a93.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a93.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A16298405C for ; Mon, 2 May 2016 17:51:38 -0700 (PDT) :content-type:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:references:to :in-reply-to; s=groupwbench.org; bh=ELNwMP59BmbWT6f/r1XtD0kRLnU= ; b=pzDogxwZVkXmtF4uxjotofyKL3zwzD9yFnc/B0WjixzaNc8gadpT3GaPdoQy d+ovKBzfqrSOuPW1L1QLzLkUxq1PoWquYMvCRdEe5w0mXi9M4yxPnMHTQlUhPDon akJnwCdZFpy7+xDU7NkqE5U9i11FAd08JcYl8UEHCLHKNg0= Received: from jims-imac.home (pool-98-118-109-236.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [98.118.109.236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jamesf@groupwbench.org) by homiemail-a93.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 50A078405B for ; Mon, 2 May 2016 17:51:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Franklin Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 20:51:36 -0400 References: <2c1b1451-9e6b-0276-7709-fd785381b7bd@comcast.net> To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Fixing LCD TVs Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============9147197795288296297== --Apple-Mail=_B1646A88-B01B-4628-BA08-3E71148C8228 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=us-ascii Thanks all. I replaced the cap and it works. I don't watch enough TV to = care much, or to drop $800 on a good one.=20 I was wondering where insignia came from, hadn't heard of them before. jim On May 2, 2016, at 12:41 PM, Peter J. Thomas = wrote: > Definitely a blown cap which is pretty common with bargain TV's. I'm = assuming it is a BestBuy Insignia TV. You could replace the cap but I'd = bet it would blow again. These low end TV's to just enough engineering = to make them work, use the lowest cost parts, and they don't have long = life spans. --Apple-Mail=_B1646A88-B01B-4628-BA08-3E71148C8228 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=us-ascii Thanks = all. I replaced the cap and it works. I don't watch enough TV to care = much, or to drop $800 on a good one. 

I was = wondering where insignia came from, hadn't heard of them = before.

jim

On May 2, = 2016, at 12:41 PM, Peter J. Thomas <pj_thomas@comcast.net> = wrote:

Definitely a blown cap which is = pretty common with bargain TV's.  I'm assuming it is a BestBuy = Insignia TV.  You could replace the cap but I'd bet it would blow = again. These low end TV's to just enough engineering to make them work, = use the lowest cost parts, and they don't have long life = spans.

= --Apple-Mail=_B1646A88-B01B-4628-BA08-3E71148C8228-- --===============9147197795288296297== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============9147197795288296297==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue May 3 19:37:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9CF25892B3 for ; Tue, 3 May 2016 19:37:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from omr-a010e.mx.aol.com (omr-a010e.mx.aol.com [204.29.186.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD7E2589297 for ; Tue, 3 May 2016 14:16:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aag02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aag02.mx.aol.com [172.26.126.80]) by omr-a010e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7F22438000E6 for ; Tue, 3 May 2016 16:16:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-ldb03c.mail.aol.com (core-ldb03.mail.aol.com [10.76.33.13]) by mtaomg-aag02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E48CA380000A0 for ; Tue, 3 May 2016 16:16:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 50.184.7.34 by webprd-m97.mail.aol.com (10.74.51.150) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 03 May 2016 16:16:03 -0400 Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 16:16:03 -0400 From: malaboge@aol.com To: shop-talk@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20150623; t=1462306565; bh=Bej1gkCz6fwbjafK8RcoH9/beXU1Ymy2qssh9hnYbps=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PEbwIcUbIVKr8l7s9CinzLAmLkTPPJU7RX4rsY3QZ6rmIj0J/IlDrVKNXhlsJ5bbz RHU+Rird5AhxbtBGEDfYHy9kKP06H0GUgQlITSlHC6lpj2ZcC5nYD2lySbQoJ8xjBX xaLWaF/yi+ruCbix+gl7QW44sG6Z/s+L19zhtTis= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7e5057290703198d Subject: [Shop-talk] fiberglass help - OT Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6846885879690444988== boundary="----=_Part_84527_1864134018.1462306563440" ------=_Part_84527_1864134018.1462306563440 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK Guys...this is a bit off topic... I need someone who is more than conversant with fiberglass construction, especially the construction and use of molds for fiberglass production. This can be for cars, boats, planes or whatever. If you have some experience/knowledge in this area, can explain it to someone who has no clue and be able to discuss this with an attorney, lemme know. I love the smell of fiberglass resin in the morning... Nick in Nor Cal ------=_Part_84527_1864134018.1462306563440 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
OK Guys...this is a bit off topic...
I need someone who is more than conversant with fiberglass construction, especially the construction and use of molds for fiberglass production. This can be for cars, boats, planes or whatever. If you have some experience/knowledge in this area, can explain it to someone who has no clue and be able to discuss this with an attorney, lemme know.

I love the smell of fiberglass resin in the morning...
Nick in Nor Cal
------=_Part_84527_1864134018.1462306563440-- --===============6846885879690444988== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6846885879690444988==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat May 7 22:37:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068032588CAB for ; Sat, 7 May 2016 22:37:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vk0-f51.google.com (mail-vk0-f51.google.com [209.85.213.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3862588D8A for ; Fri, 6 May 2016 19:27:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vk0-f51.google.com with SMTP id f66so9966157vkh.2 for ; Fri, 06 May 2016 18:27:51 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=g/AOOddNhYdXwpwtoEuzC9wN+ECxe8QiPNR1Frhr7wk=; b=qnKWtuM+NY2htDt+UvGlHf2R4WGqc1hXl7pWOewabbBXueyXLcCCV91iYqupvJvxWd FHX+v+Mk2r6ok8/2cPKXBFuLKG3WABoCh84l+SMQmqJ0U+gC+RzyiQRRwXrMrsOszNkK O7o/pTGk5T8lo7+pDqC8FXzwPg1Ew8SJuZVeZOMuh19YCz6Pabe/TKhH3fxrDbfrvhAz NRqPikHmgV/Ce/635TaoYl2mGhDOGSUBvH9GvspkGn/h8r/KsLzancH0uEhmXmW9FA/N 8OzQBEkWBHiQfbDcOO2i+RiOp37dxFicrWVL8jgIZi+3keim8K+p/NYWVJYd8Y1C5SMp tGWA== d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=g/AOOddNhYdXwpwtoEuzC9wN+ECxe8QiPNR1Frhr7wk=; b=PaSOV1vdisx6I4ZT9Bts7v6Ofe2DfaHSyI6BKRP7HcTUvqJKH/Ev3Ipo4O6kTlNAol YFZUyf+CN9oC6rtmLIWHbGD+4/c4I5TIbk/NDTfzy1J6817vT1qDSM5SPXm2oMY1Hzap JocFi80dYuvH6oKvWQw4yAtcaVgrVNfog3PfwMYj4sO2TcfSJ0wSuFOGk/zS9+zX7z8M /c1cR/DLjvr3PJ/LabrJ4BAhU7nB3rjYuDq/NnNUi88++vvF2tWDHR/Vzehnqz1UlHXg ICTJpwmhsSbIEoEj/diRhQRVbNpNbV3HHUaOjxuqAKpdUPvsEYSYrb9IzFYOEWDIv03t wCoA== Fri, 06 May 2016 18:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.159.34.83 with HTTP; Fri, 6 May 2016 18:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 20:27:50 -0500 From: David Scheidt To: shop-talk Subject: [Shop-talk] shopvac recommendations Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I need to buy a shop vac. What's the current choice? I'm looking for something 10 gallons +/-, for which I can get a so-called HEPA filter. General home improvement type uses, vacuum out cars, normal stuff. Needs to go up and down stairs easily, so not a super heavy one. -- David Scheidt dmscheidt@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun May 8 06:09:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F357225876CA for ; Sun, 8 May 2016 06:09:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB7C2587B18 for ; Sun, 8 May 2016 00:57:55 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=WFcsvJ/Qd2HQLPHiRn8aSf9wj/yFWzl4GAwjYreGJlNdciOiEMtz6YCgQJC9VVjX; h=Received:Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [108.206.140.23] (helo=[192.168.1.3]) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1azIf0-00028W-Ku; Sun, 08 May 2016 02:57:50 -0400 To: David Scheidt , shop-talk References: From: Brian Kemp Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 23:57:37 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.0 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] shopvac recommendations Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I bought a Rigid as a Black Friday special at home depot several year ago. It is a big step up from my small Shop Vac. Much quieter too. I've filled it with plaster dust and cellulose insulation to the point where it lost suction. In other words, lots of abuse. I've also used it for digging in a confined space for plumbing or electrical conduit under a slab. Break up the dirt a little with a pry bar or big screwdriver then suck it out with the vac. There are four different filters available, including a HEPA one. I recommend the ones where you can also put the hose on the exhaust so you have blower. The blow function will also assist unclogging a hose. Stick the attachment end in the suck side and then put the other end in the blow side and most of the time it unclogs whatever was stuck in the hose. Brian On 5/6/2016 6:27 PM, David Scheidt wrote: > I need to buy a shop vac. What's the current choice? > > I'm looking for something 10 gallons +/-, for which I can get a > so-called HEPA filter. General home improvement type uses, vacuum out > cars, normal stuff. Needs to go up and down stairs easily, so not a > super heavy one. > _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun May 8 14:59:06 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3F942588F68 for ; Sun, 8 May 2016 14:59:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (smtp-fo.agate.dfw.synacor.com [205.219.233.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E902588B9A for ; Sun, 8 May 2016 10:12:06 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: , , a=I0wsP0/ub+0M/VQyKFHlEA==:117 a=I0wsP0/ub+0M/VQyKFHlEA==:17 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=vggBfdFIAAAA:8 a=6wvKdS_LKxLVvbsCcwUA:9 a=eLJ0rIOEPTIA:10 a=ulBnneXc4k8OkFd-VeVl:22 Authentication-Results: smtp01.agate.dfw.synacor.com smtp.user=ejrussell@mebtel.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [99.194.29.42] ([99.194.29.42:30323] helo=EricJRussellPC) by smtp.centurylink.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.1.37854 r(Momo-dev:3.5.1.0)) with ESMTPA id 06/0E-08499-6556F275; Sun, 08 May 2016 12:12:07 -0400 From: "Eric J Russell" To: "David Scheidt" , "shop-talk" References: Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 12:11:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] shopvac recommendations Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net > I need to buy a shop vac. I have a wall mounted Shop Vac. 5 gallon I think. Easy to unhook from the wall mount to carry to places the long hose does not reach. http://www.amazon.com/Shop-Vac-3942000-Gallon-Mount-Vacuum/dp/B006NXIH26 Eric Russell Mebane, NC _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sun May 8 22:00:48 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131452589795 for ; Sun, 8 May 2016 22:00:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f178.google.com (mail-ig0-f178.google.com [209.85.213.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F02B2589001 for ; Sun, 8 May 2016 15:49:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f178.google.com with SMTP id s8so78826852ign.0 for ; Sun, 08 May 2016 14:49:04 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=fi9Jjl/GtOjeeCXIZzFDqr4jIfQTmjAXdXFnjObOwIA=; b=rHWj7zI25T9lS8p1S13J2yQd+XPAx4jtT6WhpEhsee3P5HW6vc40Zwpp72OAWsZQjn cQWtE+kHKr/6dbF15UmOTj7MCHGoNZa83LYS2lE+OF3yC3EHXChbFHQmQPcsz9BUF7/c ISgsbOYYjhORHAOoGClEz9pAXccb6pSpF1DuG2isOn41q1Re0uFESYnSZo4y+rkUOHX+ ezzhI6RE86puVMIESLmbQbsnx4BYHATM1fpwF89QvyoKuJUuWHlceaqK+bGDWaAU3wPM vs2YmGe/+52Eo0kW6j8U3cil0npiLtO1NDIYY5RuYrzLnEb1nFcuxixaB1qguHCbONuv uODg== d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=fi9Jjl/GtOjeeCXIZzFDqr4jIfQTmjAXdXFnjObOwIA=; b=Dwa1TvDjRxJf6hGuL6FJ2LhWz26zNfr+tkkwj8c40lsQgdUN+KAgyHnDpp1RYX05wG YWC+Ns8eLMu/YJaxQPKdpfGHnMoBsTtIknXaPiLZTOyZYH9LHWG4ZO+Pnjv5RbsM9Tr1 85yiSAE0rxdBHVCdqQ6GnN5sWW1lPBXweLrfqhdEkGf+H2eLlZ5oSXACffhjmFodeLiE MwP4j9BbKIwTTuk/qYa0PC6B8Z6a37FA2WZkVT49S0FI420sBGoOXJjXFg24/ZCrSuTr DPJ+7nDihCP0wJreaANu/dqsIdYGLDUsFrcaem01jU2wZiNi1Q/Y8Mw3lLfmyQ9ti5oC PXlQ== 08 May 2016 14:48:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.28.85 with HTTP; Sun, 8 May 2016 14:48:59 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 17:48:59 -0400 From: Paul Parkanzky To: David Scheidt Cc: shop-talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] shopvac recommendations Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1658542922003062838== --047d7bd76514d4c21a05325ba8ec I recently bought this one: http://www.amazon.com/WORKSHOP-Wet-Dry-WS1600VA-16-Gallon/dp/B00FX35YNC?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage I used it for a lot of drywall work when we remodeled the basement and I was very happy with it. Having the hose locked into the vacuum means it doesn't pull out every time you try for a little extra reach. It would be a bit cumbersome to haul up and down stairs all the time, but the handles aren't bad. Regards, -Paul On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 9:27 PM, David Scheidt wrote: > I need to buy a shop vac. What's the current choice? > > I'm looking for something 10 gallons +/-, for which I can get a > so-called HEPA filter. General home improvement type uses, vacuum out > cars, normal stuff. Needs to go up and down stairs easily, so not a > super heavy one. > > -- > David Scheidt > dmscheidt@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/parkanzky@gmail.com > > --047d7bd76514d4c21a05325ba8ec Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I recently bought this one:


I used it for a lot of drywall work when= we remodeled the basement and I was very happy with it.=C2=A0 Having the h= ose locked into the vacuum means it doesn't pull out every time you try= for a little extra reach.

It would be a bit cumbe= rsome to haul up and down stairs all the time, but the handles aren't b= ad.

Regards,

-Paul
<= /div>

On Fri, May = 6, 2016 at 9:27 PM, David Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com> wr= ote:
I need to buy a shop vac.=C2=A0 What= 's the current choice?

I'm looking for something 10 gallons +/-, for which I can get a
so-called HEPA filter.=C2=A0 General home improvement type uses, vacuum out=
cars, normal stuff.=C2=A0 Needs to go up and down stairs easily, so not a super heavy one.

--
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dmscheidt@gmail.com
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--047d7bd76514d4c21a05325ba8ec-- --===============1658542922003062838== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1658542922003062838==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue May 17 15:35:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E372589224 for ; Tue, 17 May 2016 15:35:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail.webworldinc.com (mail.webworldinc.com [71.39.162.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98F4F2589A6B for ; Tue, 17 May 2016 11:10:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from alVAIO (UnknownHost [173.225.63.146]) by mail.webworldinc.com with SMTP (version=TLS\Tls cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 17 May 2016 10:10:10 -0700 From: "Al Fuller" To: , References: <15478436572-6e2-10174@webprd-m97.mail.aol.com> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 13:10:04 -0400 Thread-Index: AQFaj0/6QhrDTv2CQ1BFcoc15Rycn6Crnc6g Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] fiberglass help - OT Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============5324128632213442335== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0086_01D1B03D.71CB5660" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01D1B03D.71CB5660 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What are you trying to make? The expertise/advice you need will vary = with your goals. =20 It sounds like you want to make molds as opposed to using the more = familiar mold-less construction. This will likely lead to concerns = around the amount of resin used [to control costs], the amount left in = the part [to control weight], whether to use fiberglass cloth or matt = [cost and manufacturing method differences], and how to control each. = Most likely you would want to consider buying or making a vacuum system = to control the resin, yes? =20 So the starting consideration is knowing =E2=80=93 what are you trying = to make? =20 Al Fuller '65 A-H BJ-8 '85 Rx-7 GSL-SE =20 From: Shop-talk [mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of = malaboge@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 4:16 PM To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: [Shop-talk] fiberglass help - OT =20 OK Guys...this is a bit off topic... I need someone who is more than conversant with fiberglass construction, = especially the construction and use of molds for fiberglass production. = This can be for cars, boats, planes or whatever. If you have some = experience/knowledge in this area, can explain it to someone who has no = clue and be able to discuss this with an attorney, lemme know. I love the smell of fiberglass resin in the morning... Nick in Nor Cal ------=_NextPart_000_0086_01D1B03D.71CB5660 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

What are you trying to make?=C2=A0 The expertise/advice you need will = vary with your goals.

 

It sounds like you want to make molds as opposed to using the more = familiar mold-less construction.=C2=A0 This will likely lead to concerns = around the amount of resin used [to control costs], the amount left in = the part [to control weight], whether to use fiberglass cloth or matt = [cost and manufacturing method differences], and how to control = each.=C2=A0 Most likely you would want to consider buying or making a = vacuum system to control the resin, yes?

 

So the starting consideration is knowing =E2=80=93 what are you = trying=C2=A0 to make?

 

= Al Fuller

=
'65 A-H BJ-8
'85 Rx-7 GSL-SE

 

From:= = Shop-talk [mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of = malaboge@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2016 4:16 = PM
To: shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: [Shop-talk] = fiberglass help - OT

 

OK = Guys...this is a bit off topic...
I need someone who is more than = conversant with fiberglass construction, especially the construction and = use of molds for fiberglass production. This can be for cars, boats, = planes or whatever. If you have some experience/knowledge in this area, = can explain it to someone who has no clue and be able to discuss this = with an attorney, lemme know.

I love the smell of fiberglass = resin in the morning...
Nick in Nor = Cal

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By design it bends flat stock rather well. http://www.harborfreight.com/compact-bender-38470.html I now have a need to bend some 5/8" diameter OD 1/16" wall tubing. I've been shopping around for dies but the prices I'm finding are fairly high for a one time need to make a couple of bends. I've got a nice 13" South Bend lathe so I'm thinking I should be able to fabricate the dies myself. Would a material like Delrin would be suitable for the dies? Assuming I do decide to try and turn the dies myself I would also need to figure out how to grind the cutting tool to shape the curve. I'm looking for suggestions on how to accomplish this task. Thanks! Brad _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Wed May 18 08:25:10 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1863725880D9 for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 08:25:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yw0-f182.google.com (mail-yw0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E1925899D4 for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 07:32:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-yw0-f182.google.com with SMTP id g133so47686979ywb.2 for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 06:32:32 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=JI5lgsOPHqS9uFkh+ScHjlmFDa8HoC458xcTeLCccH0=; b=0fzEPeHo94fw23P+/9JPZZLZDVa/40mD5JFuctB+NtW9+sbwfram/fPi2sj/TqOwEF TQqPwUnWAZsV2HYWFbvhdrfLJmLJAAQl7vhPX0XSMjl7GukB+sxZNb24ExbZpshOGOde 5TvZGJ9GZZ5p3WmPvckAw+1dNheGUeyFFQU1dEjX0f5k6hiEgeXB4qCH6sWDE9w9+cZD wyXp4VUUiLovKqHEsrBWTe3ypSjXDBzjAC1dg0of+rLDs3JjSqvknxMFFmZRcZ1ppqyi xx3uaTVKa5TK+4qdhepd2G206+tHJoESoMhylojLCE/oXCyw/9GEAODgWJyStJGuvURq iYJA== d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=JI5lgsOPHqS9uFkh+ScHjlmFDa8HoC458xcTeLCccH0=; b=IhUsuKRCTF0zsFpSzO9v4p6Y0xWcV2qUBXe2RG4VfbQ6l40oyLxn61Dy1XeYhR4BOx vnk2Qr+5sAn0vtaDy9djxyq07+3n0O4+MAotcmQAZ5xsZEjLD5NML1ox19JJOo8SU7A5 5poUEAmxzwBFqIafEX+dfBjfJKVTTs4ha4TpOR/VNFwDdsQ8zqSOXmjV5sjAsJwhu+Hv PauNYfcmR13YPrcIywaW0o4MRIIsOv8Fqm6SWnchhPvxx1VXHhMwNIv2nCBLSFlMgkH3 FWQH43ujrLCX5d8eRvZbWdbBlMHqL9g3jb+M7RaE1OUSU0XTkz7HdExUdkvoSZrbuyMe +jEw== Wed, 18 May 2016 06:32:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.129.128.194 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2016 06:32:21 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 08:32:21 -0500 From: John Innis To: Brad Kahler Cc: Shop Talk List Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] tubing bender dies Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2926678078335690867== --001a1147ce382d321705331de3ca Not sure about materials, but you don't need to shape your cutting tool, IF you are patient and careful. You can use a thin cutting tool and remove a very small amount of material from the center of where you want your groove. Then widen the groove until it is the diameter of the tubing stock. Then remove a small amount of material from the center of the groove and then widen the groove until is the width of your stock MINUS the change in radius for the depth of the groove. You can find the change in radius buy subtracting the dept of the groove from the width of the stock and multiplying by 2. Keep doing this and you get a successive approximation of a half circle groove. The less material you remove in each pass, the more accurate your radius will be. You can then clean up with a sanding tool if needed to remove any residual ridges. ____ ____ |_ _| |_ _| |_ _| |__| On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 7:00 AM, Brad Kahler wrote: > I was given one of these tubing benders from Harbor Freight. By > design it bends flat stock rather well. > > http://www.harborfreight.com/compact-bender-38470.html > > I now have a need to bend some 5/8" diameter OD 1/16" wall tubing. > I've been shopping around for dies but the prices I'm finding are > fairly high for a one time need to make a couple of bends. > > I've got a nice 13" South Bend lathe so I'm thinking I should be able > to fabricate the dies myself. Would a material like Delrin would be > suitable for the dies? > > Assuming I do decide to try and turn the dies myself I would also need > to figure out how to grind the cutting tool to shape the curve. > > I'm looking for suggestions on how to accomplish this task. > > Thanks! > > Brad > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jdinnis@gmail.com > > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= --001a1147ce382d321705331de3ca Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not sure about materials, but you don't need to shape = your cutting tool, IF you are patient and careful.=C2=A0 You can use a thin= cutting tool and remove a very small amount of material from the center of= where you want your groove.=C2=A0 Then widen the groove until it is the di= ameter of the tubing stock.=C2=A0 Then remove a small amount of material fr= om the center of the groove and then widen the groove until is the width of= your stock MINUS the change in radius for the depth of the groove.=C2=A0 Y= ou can find the change in radius buy subtracting the dept of the groove fro= m the width of the stock and multiplying by 2.=C2=A0 Keep doing this and yo= u get a successive approximation of a half circle groove.=C2=A0 The less ma= terial you remove in each pass, the more accurate your radius will be.=C2= =A0 You can then clean up with a sanding tool if needed to remove any resid= ual ridges.


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<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 7:00 AM, Brad Kahler <b= kahler1@gmail.com> wrote:
I= was given one of these tubing benders from Harbor Freight.=C2=A0 By
design it bends flat stock rather well.

http://www.harborfreight.com/compact-bender-38= 470.html

I now have a need to bend some 5/8" diameter OD 1/16" wall tubing= .
I've been shopping around for dies but the prices I'm finding are fairly high for a one time need to make a couple of bends.

I've got a nice 13" South Bend lathe so I'm thinking I should = be able
to fabricate the dies myself.=C2=A0 Would a material like Delrin would be suitable for the dies?

Assuming I do decide to try and turn the dies myself I would also need
to figure out how to grind the cutting tool to shape the curve.

I'm looking for suggestions on how to accomplish this task.

Thanks!

Brad
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For this particular project I think just having several points of contact around the circumference where the pipe contacts the ridges would be sufficient to support the pipe. There is nothing critical about the looks or shape of the pipe. What I'm trying to do is create a 90 degree bend in the 5/8" tubing which is going to be used on the gas tank filler neck on my motorhome. I'm adding a vent line so the tank fills easier (i.e. faster). Thanks for the tip! Brad On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 9:32 AM, John Innis wrote: > Not sure about materials, but you don't need to shape your cutting tool, IF > you are patient and careful. You can use a thin cutting tool and remove a > very small amount of material from the center of where you want your groove. > Then widen the groove until it is the diameter of the tubing stock. Then > remove a small amount of material from the center of the groove and then > widen the groove until is the width of your stock MINUS the change in radius > for the depth of the groove. You can find the change in radius buy > subtracting the dept of the groove from the width of the stock and > multiplying by 2. Keep doing this and you get a successive approximation of > a half circle groove. The less material you remove in each pass, the more > accurate your radius will be. You can then clean up with a sanding tool if > needed to remove any residual ridges. > > > ____ ____ > |_ _| > |_ _| > |_ _| > |__| > _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Wed May 18 19:14:29 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF54325897F1 for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 19:14:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m012e.mx.aol.com (omr-m012e.mx.aol.com [204.29.186.12]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35C2A2589886 for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 14:23:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mab01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mab01.mx.aol.com [172.26.249.83]) by omr-m012e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9690338000BF; Wed, 18 May 2016 16:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-ext22f.mail.aol.com (core-ext22.mail.aol.com [172.27.44.16]) by mtaomg-mab01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5922B38000095; Wed, 18 May 2016 16:23:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 68.188.78.74 by webprd-m82.mail.aol.com (10.74.55.18) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 18 May 2016 16:23:35 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 16:23:35 -0400 From: Dave To: bkahler1@gmail.com, shop-talk@autox.team.net References: x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20150623; t=1463603015; bh=aWylgBJ4cKidbsyQQuSb3w3vbGiITsiccoGr1EHIVYI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EmXrLhAkpmwwHvNZDADHZLyWQbZOrVaagD8urAUVKNaJgh9an+ItiCheRtnOr4fLZ wH1YV1bTdAnqgL4ij6ObHnyiEnZK6CpSI2bq9aIaruSIyp+dnbxp9ZyZttZfE8tO4J TQ6haqbJhTEevjEe1ciI/qd3cetdmEUsFJkn4nMo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1af953573ccf4744c0 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] tubing bender dies Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4758948697391696968== boundary="----=_Part_208039_1183205162.1463603015229" ------=_Part_208039_1183205162.1463603015229 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why not just buy some rope pulleys of the right diameter? http://www.mcmaster.com/#rope-pulleys/=12guu0a Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: Brad Kahler To: Shop Talk List Sent: Wed, May 18, 2016 11:26 am Subject: [Shop-talk] tubing bender dies I was given one of these tubing benders from Harbor Freight. By design it bends flat stock rather well. http://www.harborfreight.com/compact-bender-38470.html I now have a need to bend some 5/8" diameter OD 1/16" wall tubing. I've been shopping around for dies but the prices I'm finding are fairly high for a one time need to make a couple of bends. I've got a nice 13" South Bend lathe so I'm thinking I should be able to fabricate the dies myself. Would a material like Delrin would be suitable for the dies? Assuming I do decide to try and turn the dies myself I would also need to figure out how to grind the cutting tool to shape the curve. I'm looking for suggestions on how to accomplish this task. Thanks! Brad _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ------=_Part_208039_1183205162.1463603015229 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Why not just buy some rope pulleys of the right diameter?

http://www.mcmaster.com/#rope-pulleys/=12guu0a


Dave Massey



-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Kahler <bkahler1@gmail.com>
To: Shop Talk List <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, May 18, 2016 11:26 am
Subject: [Shop-talk] tubing bender dies

I was given one of these tubing benders from Harbor Freight. By
design it bends flat stock rather well.

http://www.harborfreight.com/compact-bender-38470.html

I now have a need to bend some 5/8" diameter OD 1/16" wall tubing.
I've been shopping around for dies but the prices I'm finding are
fairly high for a one time need to make a couple of bends.

I've got a nice 13" South Bend lathe so I'm thinking I should be able
to fabricate the dies myself. Would a material like Delrin would be
suitable for the dies?

Assuming I do decide to try and turn the dies myself I would also need
to figure out how to grind the cutting tool to shape the curve.

I'm looking for suggestions on how to accomplish this task.

Thanks!

Brad
_______________________________________________

Shop-talk@autox.team.net
Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
Forums: http://www.team.net/forums

 ------=_Part_208039_1183205162.1463603015229-- --===============4758948697391696968== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4758948697391696968==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Wed May 18 19:32:51 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E532589A88 for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 19:32:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from itonami.pair.com (itonami.pair.com [209.68.2.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734D425897EA for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 14:26:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: by itonami.pair.com (Postfix, from userid 3198) id 5A3468FC42; Wed, 18 May 2016 16:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by itonami.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5884F8FC1A for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 16:26:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 16:26:56 -0400 (EDT) From: David Hillman To: Shop Talk List References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (BSF 1266 2009-07-14) Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] tubing bender dies Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, 18 May 2016, Brad Kahler wrote: > There is nothing critical about the looks or shape of the pipe. What > I'm trying to do is create a 90 degree bend in the 5/8" tubing which > is going to be used on the gas tank filler neck on my motorhome. I'm > adding a vent line so the tank fills easier (i.e. faster). Brad, For those minimal requirements, it seems like you'd be time way ahead making a simple bender from scratch, if you have some scrap metal handy. Here's the one I made a few years ago... Two posts are fixed to the base, in this case a scrap of square tube, and one is fixed to the arm, here a flat scrap. One hole drilled in the arm is the pivot point. Or you could just find something round with a useful radius -- like a wheel -- and bend the tube over that by hand. Doesn't take much to bend 5/8" x 1/16" material. -- David Hillman _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Wed May 18 19:50:37 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ABFF25881AF for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 19:50:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wm0-f46.google.com (mail-wm0-f46.google.com [74.125.82.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7A0225897C7 for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 14:30:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wm0-f46.google.com with SMTP id r12so51662945wme.0 for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 13:30:55 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=pTlMgZrd+C8olRR0duoOMFDdHQnfjuXsT1LvV30w/Y0=; b=I6ig2sgWhU04w5FYmTEJD4PVt8oURODfOVsSrE4b8Q/qX5Ub1nVrhbmilH0Rcep6vt 73hc8fMSoXNSfP4B0jIPsBl4lxUT37LIkJMHWILyviN0CxRveNdJj0LMJovtWyIXnbdr /i62uMIVECrTxoYCxGzQNgpOUynrw/NcAnBlrzLKqiugEG7dut6OUqhDXqdseLg0bhHL VhFMGLHiEfRRFTo6kipwUlfj1/C0eg5KeTygfWKYeCKBBQezH941LigoWviSrckXSyBg esfaxXXZ081FH0gl2UFX8wWFHKiPS1Rxf6sZXAxqQ8/hFZyib4Zy1TBybiDyDS9XumMW 7SYQ== d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=pTlMgZrd+C8olRR0duoOMFDdHQnfjuXsT1LvV30w/Y0=; b=K6IwCOS7j57GZstHwzobgCexoo9dMBqsltdvXheHGJXqNceflnfx1uG6klN1TT8N/v Rb5NZ/fUxJR/0UmNQSs0wqUXPTZ7d1GnfWzHqaA8V8blyn2xvMbdIZmCEGs9nyR3rKZ5 Tbpv4mKTxgBbJxVQPLgkZ8c2tHkGcbhbB7kBfhee9S282UP7aSpJ+mgniPKmY/lqt/nI 4iVNgzVECd5IQMrOAxyd3734TZCWIidppZ1+110cttmJ9NmzfSaVQC3cOOEiCeaBNSD/ SaNBwQIkMBGBWc3EIloalzkPgcV0wPqXXmYwxpUDeoi2sUWDlc4KlKRiJC7jj1mwdTFQ TfCA== Wed, 18 May 2016 13:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.32.234 with HTTP; Wed, 18 May 2016 13:30:49 -0700 (PDT) References: <154c589ae40-5a3b-2791d@webprd-m82.mail.aol.com> Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 16:30:49 -0400 From: Brad Kahler To: Dave Cc: Shop Talk List Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] tubing bender dies Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, That's not a bad idea, unfortunately I just checked and all of the pulleys designed for 5/8" rope are pretty darn expensive and I would need at least two of them :( For the moment John's idea of how to make the pulleys is probably the easiest/cheapest approach. On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Dave wrote: > Why not just buy some rope pulleys of the right diameter? > > http://www.mcmaster.com/#rope-pulleys/=12guu0a > > > Dave Massey > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad Kahler > To: Shop Talk List > Sent: Wed, May 18, 2016 11:26 am > Subject: [Shop-talk] tubing bender dies > > > I now have a need to bend some 5/8" diameter OD 1/16" wall tubing. > I've been shopping around for dies but the prices I'm finding are > fairly high for a one time need to make a couple of bends. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Wed May 18 21:26:37 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 283AE2589C2B for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 21:26:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from omr-a020e.mx.aol.com (omr-a020e.mx.aol.com [204.29.186.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60A52589014 for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 15:56:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aan01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aan01.mx.aol.com [172.27.19.79]) by omr-a020e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1E3853800040; Wed, 18 May 2016 17:56:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-ext22f.mail.aol.com (core-ext22.mail.aol.com [172.27.44.16]) by mtaomg-aan01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id DDCC838000086; Wed, 18 May 2016 17:56:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 68.188.78.74 by webprd-m73.mail.aol.com (10.74.55.17) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 18 May 2016 17:56:33 -0400 Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 17:56:33 -0400 From: Dave To: bkahler1@gmail.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20150623; t=1463608594; bh=fWrEeySEBp4TByQpWIyE9j1kUkIYgGwT/kanQ94kuyQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=j2eYkerhatnnekXK9WAoIux2Njw/J5ASwfR4G4KOAC5GMqET7QEX8t2fEIMi2moQX 5pZDGSpbZS5t0EuWdUgoYYQdeoWuGjWMycbdDRYabkAG7RVlcN5wDbVUQRHpKZiRWj ICZe53mQ2QaBgDyOHb6vTkq4y6STcbyz58X9w42A= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b134f573ce51139d6 Cc: shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] tubing bender dies Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6464053527808050379== boundary="----=_Part_205675_6493308.1463608593768" ------=_Part_205675_6493308.1463608593768 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit They did have a cast iron one (3165T43) that was only $29. $60 to save you an afternoon's work might be worthwhile. Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: Brad Kahler To: Dave Cc: Shop Talk List Sent: Wed, May 18, 2016 3:30 pm Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] tubing bender dies Dave, That's not a bad idea, unfortunately I just checked and all of the pulleys designed for 5/8" rope are pretty darn expensive and I would need at least two of them :( For the moment John's idea of how to make the pulleys is probably the easiest/cheapest approach. On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Dave wrote: > Why not just buy some rope pulleys of the right diameter? > > http://www.mcmaster.com/#rope-pulleys/=12guu0a > > > Dave Massey > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Brad Kahler > To: Shop Talk List > Sent: Wed, May 18, 2016 11:26 am > Subject: [Shop-talk] tubing bender dies > > > I now have a need to bend some 5/8" diameter OD 1/16" wall tubing. > I've been shopping around for dies but the prices I'm finding are > fairly high for a one time need to make a couple of bends. ------=_Part_205675_6493308.1463608593768 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit They did have a cast iron one (3165T43) that was only $29.  $60 to save you an afternoon's work might be worthwhile.


Dave Massey



-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Kahler <bkahler1@gmail.com>
To: Dave <dave1massey@cs.com>
Cc: Shop Talk List <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, May 18, 2016 3:30 pm
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] tubing bender dies

Dave,

That's not a bad idea, unfortunately I just checked and all of the
pulleys designed for 5/8" rope are pretty darn expensive and I would
need at least two of them :(

For the moment John's idea of how to make the pulleys is probably the
easiest/cheapest approach.




On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 4:23 PM, Dave <dave1massey@cs.com> wrote:
> Why not just buy some rope pulleys of the right diameter?
>
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#rope-pulleys/=12guu0a
>
>
> Dave Massey
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brad Kahler <bkahler1@gmail.com>
> To: Shop Talk List <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, May 18, 2016 11:26 am
> Subject: [Shop-talk] tubing bender dies
>
>
> I now have a need to bend some 5/8" diameter OD 1/16" wall tubing.
> I've been shopping around for dies but the prices I'm finding are
> fairly high for a one time need to make a couple of bends.
 ------=_Part_205675_6493308.1463608593768-- --===============6464053527808050379== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6464053527808050379==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Wed May 18 22:43:26 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8FA2589CFE for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 22:43:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from filter02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (filter02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net [199.224.80.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2463A2589085 for ; Wed, 18 May 2016 21:00:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by filter02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03892310ED; Thu, 19 May 2016 03:01:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay04.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net ([199.224.80.247]) by localhost (filter02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net [199.224.80.229]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id UEh+5rZeKmbk; Thu, 19 May 2016 03:00:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [50.34.117.28]) by relay04.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D45772F80A8; Thu, 19 May 2016 03:00:56 +0000 (UTC) To: Brad Kahler , Shop Talk List References: From: Dave Cavanaugh Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 20:01:21 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] tubing bender dies Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I think I would make the dies out of maple or oak on my wood lathe, but I'm primarily a wood guy. You can turn wood on a metal lathe (but it's messy) and you could just grind a quickie tool with the appropriate radius out of a piece of scrap or old file since you're only turning wood. On 5/18/2016 5:00 AM, Brad Kahler wrote: > I was given one of these tubing benders from Harbor Freight. By > design it bends flat stock rather well. > > http://www.harborfreight.com/compact-bender-38470.html > > I now have a need to bend some 5/8" diameter OD 1/16" wall tubing. > I've been shopping around for dies but the prices I'm finding are > fairly high for a one time need to make a couple of bends. > > I've got a nice 13" South Bend lathe so I'm thinking I should be able > to fabricate the dies myself. Would a material like Delrin would be > suitable for the dies? > > Assuming I do decide to try and turn the dies myself I would also need > to figure out how to grind the cutting tool to shape the curve. > > I'm looking for suggestions on how to accomplish this task. > > Thanks! > > Brad > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/cavanadd@frontier.com > > _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thu May 19 11:27:17 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A019D258961C for ; Thu, 19 May 2016 11:27:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vk0-f49.google.com (mail-vk0-f49.google.com [209.85.213.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E832588D6A for ; Thu, 19 May 2016 10:59:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vk0-f49.google.com with SMTP id z184so111267461vkg.0 for ; Thu, 19 May 2016 09:59:31 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=eh0I3I4xZpTUf4O8QTapa/VXzPOOuE/+xR7zvLeDCag=; b=GLSvfRHEE5DzTXCaQxfhDS4jyTTCQk20t2RnpO1yrOgx4t1TpJxTLJmeU9cabvJW6v fBqisH0049MXYEg29zDdECwjpT4/djhKspncqGVdiZ65qncaX+ohQ1igL30QQ7Oyl7Qi kJfKHYZawFdNrZL6YsRGft2KFF19bjWhdNTG8/TAbVR0OkqxZwZheLfw4B/jMXsb/Uv+ W3lMq0ZrfIUWn1qgJD4iJGnHEqnMW1ymaV2NZz6o6/UNYPPgpktVmi07e89RNXC3GCm5 eTA2NVbmM6RvQnRY3Qs2QQXCC1d0g826jKZCSEkEaYT58HScKzVIpj0rK8Vrf3ydg/7w 1PKQ== d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=eh0I3I4xZpTUf4O8QTapa/VXzPOOuE/+xR7zvLeDCag=; b=LV6WNSa2jLqsBZESDa4ciF+aIBM+sTl/IhgQx4tfS2Cyi7bdKcvXRXzb36pMsvMCcu soJ2K4yBC3b0rVfgDe5YwCcSy06Xt+UinyjMBrBIx2GTnLbrx4f3GVLWJEpBbV4yeLnR XfP3PUFkI+8F0djll854tzvtLUsg5DesCopbu4kQ/Kmys1NzRzkMt4t37OkIoOnjqTAg arfTDwqsVcSQhqm9DeddZQAavtaLwIxmTZn13UNliGyjKP9xIrBvTGwNFcYfWEPIJ7yr sSptgLEsH7f87+8eyx1K89ggCO4ODwVmI8LsRVNRYQvZKf+onukUadXEhCB5i6b9L6kS lBqw== 19 May 2016 09:59:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.176.65.100 with HTTP; Thu, 19 May 2016 09:59:30 -0700 (PDT) References: <154c589ae40-5a3b-2791d@webprd-m82.mail.aol.com> Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 11:59:30 -0500 From: David Scheidt To: Brad Kahler , shop-talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] tubing bender dies Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Brad Kahler wrote: > Dave, > > That's not a bad idea, unfortunately I just checked and all of the > pulleys designed for 5/8" rope are pretty darn expensive and I would > need at least two of them :( > > For the moment John's idea of how to make the pulleys is probably the > easiest/cheapest approach. > > The cheapest and easiest approach is surely to have someone with a suitable tubing bender bend it for you. 5/8 is used for some exhaust stuff, a good custom muffler place might have a die. Second simplest is likely to use a piece of flexible tubing, either for the whole piece, or just the bend. Something like http://www.bennettbuilt.com/shop/Muffler_Accessories--Stainless_Steel_Flexible_Exhaust_Tubing_58_ID.html should probably work... _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon May 23 08:59:37 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A42925885AD for ; Mon, 23 May 2016 08:59:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from dogbert2.mail.megageek.com (nj-69-34-94-16.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.94.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B60258846B for ; Mon, 23 May 2016 08:50:28 -0600 (MDT) To: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net From: eric@megageek.com Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 10:27:45 -0400 05/23/2016 10:27:47, Serialize complete at 05/23/2016 10:27:47 Subject: [Shop-talk] New Compressor Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============1478561135184920148== This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0052648385257FBC_= I finally found the new compressor for me. I just placed the order... https://www.eatoncompressor.com/piston-compressors/premium-vertical-piston-series-5-15hp/7.5hp%20Two%20Stage%20Industrial%20Plus%20Series/7-5hp-v4-single-phase-80-gallon-vertical-air-compressor It should be my last one. Now I just need to sell the old one, (oh, and update some wiring for the new 50 amp circuit.) Does anyone have any ideas for a good break in? I mean with a compressor, is there anything I can do to? Just wondering. Thanks. Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. Eric P "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson --=_alternative 0052648385257FBC_= I finally found the new compressor for me.  I just placed the order...

https://www.eatoncompressor.com/piston-compressors/premium-vertical-piston-series-5-15hp/7.5hp%20Two%20Stage%20Industrial%20Plus%20Series/7-5hp-v4-single-phase-80-gallon-vertical-air-compressor

It should be my last one.  Now I just need to sell the old one, (oh, and update some wiring for the new 50 amp circuit.)  

Does anyone have any ideas for a good break in?  I mean with a compressor, is there anything I can do to?

Just wondering.

Thanks.


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson --=_alternative 0052648385257FBC_=-- --===============1478561135184920148== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1478561135184920148==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon May 23 11:46:25 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0639125887DA for ; Mon, 23 May 2016 11:46:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mailback1.g2host.com (mailback1.g2host.com [209.98.94.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037282587FF6 for ; Mon, 23 May 2016 10:54:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [198.203.175.175] (account arvidj@visi.com) by visi.com (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 6.0.11) with HTTP id 5517318; Mon, 23 May 2016 12:03:47 -0500 From: "Arvid Jedlicka" To: , Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 12:03:47 -0500 References: Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] New Compressor Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0972194018214749422== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I'm not sure anything special can be done for break in other than not letting it run continuously and getting really hot. All I did on mine was change the oil a couple of times during the first 20 hours, then annually after that. But that might be a little excessive.


On Mon, 23 May 2016 10:27:45 -0400
eric@megageek.com wrote:
> I finally found the new compressor for me.  I just placed the order...
>
> https://www.eatoncompressor.com/piston-compressors/premium-vertical-piston-series-5-15hp/7.5hp%20Two%20Stage%20Industrial%20Plus%20Series/7-5hp-v4-single-phase-80-gallon-vertical-air-compressor
>
> It should be my last one.  Now I just need to sell the old one, (oh, and
> update some wiring for the new 50 amp circuit.)
>
> Does anyone have any ideas for a good break in?  I mean with a compressor,
> is there anything I can do to?
>
> Just wondering.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
> Eric P
> "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational
> being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph
> Waldo Emerson

--===============0972194018214749422== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0972194018214749422==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon May 23 16:50:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E9D2588546 for ; Mon, 23 May 2016 16:50:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from homiemail-a118.g.dreamhost.com (caibbdcaaahf.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058E92588474 for ; Mon, 23 May 2016 16:46:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from homiemail-a118.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a118.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E19860002B9B for ; Mon, 23 May 2016 15:55:51 -0700 (PDT) :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:message-id:date :to:mime-version; s=groupwbench.org; bh=MbnG+Z47/JyqWusC6ZWCW3VR T6s=; b=ZwILIbF40tsi7bRIMPCcB+Qf0cMy1DM3RsuFTTS3MFYbJu2+z2UFXw3L v81SmqO5c76QxsjeiOAKQcUxUokBI8Rdu79aL6H1dTRocwqn8+mLY2ped75Rv16x y6Iv2/3iOUqmQXq2XbIjWvISKBn7/RcgmXqXuUfTDVuYaU/K7fg= Received: from jims-imac.home (pool-98-118-109-236.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [98.118.109.236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jamesf@groupwbench.org) by homiemail-a118.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A740060002B8F for ; Mon, 23 May 2016 15:55:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Franklin Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 18:55:48 -0400 To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: [Shop-talk] Battery powered lawn mowers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I'm tired of borrowing a friend's rider mower, and I can use some exercise. I see there are quite a few Lithium battery mowers. Any experiences with them? I like the Ego, wondering if the larger battery is worth the extra $200. I have about 1/2 acre to mow. thanks, jim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon May 23 18:19:36 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F7D25881E8 for ; Mon, 23 May 2016 18:19:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-po-03v.sys.comcast.net [96.114.154.162]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BADF258806C for ; Mon, 23 May 2016 18:02:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-po-08v.sys.comcast.net ([96.114.154.232]) by comcast with SMTP id 4zvRbaOH9YPZX4zwobTNKZ; Tue, 24 May 2016 00:11:46 +0000 s=q20140121; t=1464048706; bh=TmUzLc+w2mNZrsn5IAhoGj9Mp5fko7CUth5CIbbDOcw=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=hmmwMm7dTuIvrZ0cRYLfV95Y4tD+IwLS3oHg3+v/LPoVYbVja873Ord3AczbyoQf7 sRthTe8eUssBBgySoc/52JKzN00eXvNc86bA76ZoIgdRxVLL1QRFTHQyBRYID0tDl0 ZjD7KaXNa6Gn5B9keN8E2W1PxhuYgG7Qep8brZg8V1R1GDjegNgCyEDgzcZenuJ9MZ NoSkt7oSCbyhu0zAmPw69b3t5GzrIDlyhEDODG+LAEp7sfJO0VU1kknYzQNsi2KYGo VLjOxLCNwRzYhcS03Amfsx9ErjGDDjxggnuVWl/yZ1how0+5v4iVdanSWsp/HX0dqw p2xv5zBGEKZqA== Received: from [10.238.149.93] ([50.141.111.113]) by resomta-po-08v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id y0Bk1s00X2SqouA010BlUH; Tue, 24 May 2016 00:11:46 +0000 From: Bill Rabel Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 17:11:44 -0700 References: <03B8FC3B-24E2-47C3-9048-83B9DF7E27B5@groupwbench.org> To: Jim Franklin Cc: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Battery powered lawn mowers Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2469526111968959511== boundary=Apple-Mail-5106E399-B0D3-47CB-BC92-E3FC71D92912 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-5106E399-B0D3-47CB-BC92-E3FC71D92912 charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have two E-Go tools, a hedge trimmer and a weed whacker. They run longer t= han I do. I'm impressed with the tools. Worst case would be to buy an extra b= attery, although they recharge really quickly. Just enough time to throw dow= n a beer.=20 - Bill Rabel Anacortes=20 Sent from my iPhone (please ignore the inanities created by auto-correct).=20= > On May 23, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Jim Franklin wrote: >=20 > I'm tired of borrowing a friend's rider mower, and I can use some exercise= . I see there are quite a few Lithium battery mowers. Any experiences with t= hem? I like the Ego, wondering if the larger battery is worth the extra $200= .=20 >=20 > I have about 1/2 acre to mow.=20 >=20 > thanks, > jim > _______________________________________________ >=20 > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/brabel= @comcast.net Sent from my iPhone (please ignore the inanities created by auto-correct).=20= --Apple-Mail-5106E399-B0D3-47CB-BC92-E3FC71D92912 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have two E-Go tools, a h= edge trimmer and a weed whacker. They run longer than I do. I'm impressed wi= th the tools. Worst case would be to buy an extra battery, although they rec= harge really quickly. Just enough time to throw down a beer. 

- Bill Rabel
  Anacortes 

Sent from my iPhone (please ignore the i= nanities created by auto-correct). 

<= span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">On May 23, 2016, at= 3:55 PM, Jim Franklin <jamesf@= groupwbench.org> wrote:

I'm tired of borrowing a friend's rider mower, and I can use so= me exercise. I see there are quite a few Lithium battery mowers. Any experie= nces with them? I like the Ego, wondering if the larger battery is worth the= extra $200. 

I have about 1/2 acre to mow. 

thanks,=
jim
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= --Apple-Mail-5106E399-B0D3-47CB-BC92-E3FC71D92912-- --===============2469526111968959511== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2469526111968959511==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Mon May 23 23:04:20 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489002587F4D for ; Mon, 23 May 2016 23:04:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149D92587D89 for ; Mon, 23 May 2016 22:51:39 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=cE5EOHmBBAvmLaTAN91X+LH4eKxxuoIHe/PzXo+dWUfUI+roDj/Hv1zJDYEJ0OZQ; h=Received:Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:User-Agent:MIME-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [108.206.140.23] (helo=[192.168.1.3]) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1b54Sc-0004Vp-E3; Tue, 24 May 2016 01:00:54 -0400 To: Jim Franklin , Shop-talk@autox.team.net References: <03B8FC3B-24E2-47C3-9048-83B9DF7E27B5@groupwbench.org> From: Brian Kemp Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 22:00:33 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Battery powered lawn mowers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Jim - I have a Black and Decker 36V battery mower. A little older and less powerful than what you are considering, but here is some feedback. This is the model: http://www.amazon.com/CM1936-Cordless-Removable-Discontinued-Manufacturer/dp/B002YK4UZU/ I got it at a heavy discount at a lawn mower exchange when I traded in my old gas mower. I've had the mower for about 5 years and it works for me, but my lawn area that gets mowed regularly is only about 20x15'. If the grass is long, I have to mow it twice - once at the highest setting then again at a middle setting. On the first pass, I can also only cut about a foot wide path or the mower stalls. This mower doesn't have anywhere near the power of my previous $200 gas mower. If the grass is the slightest bit damp, it clumps and won't bag. It is supposed to mulch, but that only works with a slight trim. I have a second grass area that I mow every couple mowings. This area is about 10x50. It is also down 20 railroad tie steps. The mower needs to be carried up the steps when done, so weight was important. The model I have has a removable battery, so if I'm tired, I can bring the battery up to the house then the mower. It is much easier to bring the lighter electric up the stairs. I'm likely the only one on the list that carries a mower up stairs, but if you ever have to, the removable battery makes it easier. My 36V battery starts to loose power at the end of the mowing cycle if I cut both areas twice. I'd guess I can maybe get 30 minutes of mowing. There is no way the battery mower I have would every cut a 1/2 acre. I do really like the convenience of not having the gas and the easy start of the electric. I also like the quiet. My previous house had bad grass and needed to be de-thatched every year or so. No way that de-thathing blade would work on a battery mower. With a 1/2 acre, I'd really recommend a riding mower. Yes, you could do it with a gas push mower, but it will take 2-3 times longer. If you went battery, even with the 56V battery, you are likely to need at least one charge or battery swap. I'd say to save your time and go work on something in the shop. My lot is .6 acres, but on a canyon and most of it is trimmed with a string trimmer. I really like my semi-commercial Echo string trimmer for brush clearance and my commercial Sthil backpack leaf blower. Gas and battery lawn equipment each have their place. I think you will find that a battery mower won't cut it on a half acre. If I move to a house with more lawn, it will be back to gas again for the mower. Brian On 5/23/2016 3:55 PM, Jim Franklin wrote: > I'm tired of borrowing a friend's rider mower, and I can use some exercise. I see there are quite a few Lithium battery mowers. Any experiences with them? I like the Ego, wondering if the larger battery is worth the extra $200. > > I have about 1/2 acre to mow. > > thanks, > jim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue May 24 07:06:50 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9897A2587FCE for ; Tue, 24 May 2016 07:06:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from dogbert2.mail.megageek.com (nj-69-34-94-16.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.94.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93C002587BFC for ; Tue, 24 May 2016 06:53:55 -0600 (MDT) To: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net From: eric@megageek.com Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 08:31:06 -0400 05/24/2016 08:31:17, Serialize complete at 05/24/2016 08:31:17 Subject: [Shop-talk] Fw: New Compressor Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in 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Thomas" Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 10:27:29 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Battery powered lawn mowers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net With a half acre, I'd get a self propelled gas mower. If it were a flat half acre level field maybe a law tractor or a ride on. But if the lot is a half acre, once you subtract the house, driveway, planting beds, etc. you actual have a lot less. If there are slopes a tractor can flip (ride ons are more stable). The electric movers are good for small urban/suburban lots. But once you get bigger the narrower cutting path of an electric becomes an issue. I also think recharging is more work than filling the tank. The other advantage of a gas mower is engines are easy to change and much cheaper than a new mower. My mower is on it's forth engine. With an electric mower the battery eventually needs to be replaced and may not be available, meaning a new mower. Peter Thomas On 5/24/2016 1:00 AM, Brian Kemp wrote: > With a 1/2 acre, I'd really recommend a riding mower. Yes, you could > do it with a gas push mower, but it will take 2-3 times longer. If > you went battery, even with the 56V battery, you are likely to need at > least one charge or battery swap. I'd say to save your time and go > work on something in the shop. > > My lot is .6 acres, but on a canyon and most of it is trimmed with a > string trimmer. I really like my semi-commercial Echo string trimmer > for brush clearance and my commercial Sthil backpack leaf blower. Gas > and battery lawn equipment each have their place. I think you will > find that a battery mower won't cut it on a half acre. If I move to a > house with more lawn, it will be back to gas again for the mower. > > Brian _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue May 24 11:55:44 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626272587E74 for ; Tue, 24 May 2016 11:55:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from dogbert2.mail.megageek.com (nj-69-34-94-16.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.94.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE377258813E for ; Tue, 24 May 2016 11:39:42 -0600 (MDT) To: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net From: eric@megageek.com Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 13:16:53 -0400 05/24/2016 13:17:00, Serialize complete at 05/24/2016 13:17:00 Subject: [Shop-talk] It's raining compressors Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============9152694789051810423== This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0061E07485257FBD_= So I ordered my new compressor yesterday. Later that night, a buddy told me he needed to get a air compressor out of a friend's house where it has been sitting for a few years. It was never used, but he bought it new. My question, can I transport a vertical tank compressor on it's side? I want to help move it, but is there any reason I can't lay it down in a truck (we can't lift it in the truck.) Just asking. Thanks. Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. Eric P "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson --=_alternative 0061E07485257FBD_= So I ordered my new compressor yesterday.  Later that night, a buddy told me he needed to get a air compressor out of a friend's house where it has been sitting for a few years.  It was never used, but he bought it new.

My question, can I transport a vertical tank compressor on it's side?  I want to help move it, but is there any reason I can't lay it down in a truck (we can't lift it in the truck.)

Just asking.

Thanks.


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson --=_alternative 0061E07485257FBD_=-- --===============9152694789051810423== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============9152694789051810423==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue May 24 13:35:47 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C1B2587798 for ; Tue, 24 May 2016 13:35:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail.milleredp.com (fw.milleredp.com [198.144.208.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56CAB2587F21 for ; Tue, 24 May 2016 12:05:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.1.2.100] ([::ffff:10.1.2.100]) (AUTH: PLAIN jem, TLS: TLSv1/SSLv3,128bits,AES128-SHA) by mail.milleredp.com with ESMTPSA; Tue, 24 May 2016 11:15:02 -0700 id 00000000002800AD.0000000057449A26.0000781F To: shop-talk@autox.team.net References: From: John Miller Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 11:15:02 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] It's raining compressors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net On 5/24/2016 10:16 AM, eric@megageek.com wrote: > My question, can I transport a vertical tank compressor on it's side? I > want to help move it, but is there any reason I can't lay it down in a > truck (we can't lift it in the truck.) Drain the oil from the compressor crankcase, make sure any belt-tensioning arrangement the motor might have on it doesn't let it flop around, otherwise I don't see why not. John. _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue May 24 14:09:24 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C62952587D3B for ; Tue, 24 May 2016 14:09:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-it0-f52.google.com (mail-it0-f52.google.com [209.85.214.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1682587E4F for ; Tue, 24 May 2016 12:35:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-it0-f52.google.com with SMTP id e62so57223281ita.1 for ; Tue, 24 May 2016 11:45:13 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=q7zhTDGSZtlJe7hHvbMZnyZjWy2Nye0s+KRs8lR/HBQ=; b=z0kKCRQ6k/TwKN+nMUlSKG6bXZneYlFgMlvGx6a04iNDQT0hB9iui1dla/jqsgY0AK X4S36ZV0e4C0xvXVxSAvLTKRWNXdp3HToMTazJw9+GnTgugb0KaHqoymf/3CKRRBFTBq NxpceYwAUPm5KbhNnRi9xqePk5p5sCqZjjT2GpFMdqv/rI8aL+0aE3wapFfqsQziIprq on4p/uzBsmt+Sn/rVRf5ZEy9zPJg48bSp5ajWSyIi7Aj/LIlaUnr9JNnQNv2i+g1DnG6 /ifQGClEZ8qvZWrgq/1zC144hNUPiy1EQPmC+3PB+QIt1/lQFq9HGqcNEECnFcnf+uxc GWgw== d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=q7zhTDGSZtlJe7hHvbMZnyZjWy2Nye0s+KRs8lR/HBQ=; b=QTJy2Kg5EEv+GMJ3N1yJCd6YFiYcpe3D96I83/7cgIrbH2psbWTzFMJNnJnPYhmLNG tzDMfTsmqev0ToX3VM5O/xuKi04vtqPXcX5xgoRyOOmJbHn0AEI9GwSHqtKgT+IJqhkJ 9qy+0OqLua6KgNbCQ0MSrGqrGrFT4aag8tTfSiL5gnZ6w+q+wypZjsb6FbPayWB3AaLg 6axKiwz3k2LXikwfsLd2+PesAJ/iQDlrR/YsjAVhbTMIe4/A57k1c3JZjkTuOclyLSJy f9Ikf4fSQMxGQTGbL9PiKWFogpyUx7Yhb1ht8mEV69MMsMCAOg3h0lZ6KtEZt6xQO6wq I0tw== 24 May 2016 11:45:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.59.146 with HTTP; Tue, 24 May 2016 11:45:13 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 13:45:13 -0500 From: John Innis To: eric@megageek.com Cc: shop-talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] It's raining compressors Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3595659286150689792== --001a1145173016bad105339af5bf One thing to watch out for is how the pump is mounted to the top of the tank. Mine is mounted on rubber vibration idolators that are designed to work in the vertical direction, not horizontal. When I tried to lay mine on it's side, it was putting too much stress on the line form the compressor output to the tank. I decided to just unbolt the compressor to move it. You also need to know if your compressor is oiled or not. An oil free compressor can tolerate being laid on it's side just fine, but some oiled compressor pumps might not like this. If it does have an oil resivior, it might be best to drain it before you lay it on it's side, then fill it with fresh oil when you get where you are going. On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 12:16 PM, wrote: > So I ordered my new compressor yesterday. Later that night, a buddy told > me he needed to get a air compressor out of a friend's house where it has > been sitting for a few years. It was never used, but he bought it new. > > My question, can I transport a vertical tank compressor on it's side? I > want to help move it, but is there any reason I can't lay it down in a > truck (we can't lift it in the truck.) > > Just asking. > > Thanks. > > > Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. > Eric P > "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational > being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph > Waldo Emerson > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jdinnis@gmail.com > > > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= --001a1145173016bad105339af5bf Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
One thing to watch out for is how the pump is mounted to t= he top of the tank.=C2=A0 Mine is mounted on rubber vibration idolators tha= t are designed to work in the vertical direction, not horizontal.=C2=A0 Whe= n I tried to lay mine on it's side, it was putting too much stress on t= he line form the compressor output to the tank.=C2=A0 I decided to just unb= olt the compressor to move it.=C2=A0 You also need to know if your compress= or is oiled or not.=C2=A0 An oil free compressor can tolerate being laid on= it's side just fine, but some oiled compressor pumps might not like th= is.=C2=A0 If it does have an oil resivior, it might be best to drain it bef= ore you lay it on it's side, then fill it with fresh oil when you get w= here you are going.

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 12:16 PM, <eric@megageek.com><= /span> wrote:
So I ordered my new compressor yesterday. =C2=A0Later that night, a buddy told me he needed to get a air compressor out of a friend's house where it has been sitting for a few years.=C2= =A0 It was never used, but he bought it new.

My question, can I transport a ver= tical tank compressor on it's side?=C2=A0 I want to help move it, but is ther= e any reason I can't lay it down in a truck (we can't lift it in the = truck.)

Just asking.

Thanks.


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a ratio= nal being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson
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--001a1145173016bad105339af5bf-- --===============3595659286150689792== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3595659286150689792==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue May 24 14:27:09 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFE52587F9E for ; Tue, 24 May 2016 14:27:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from itonami.pair.com (itonami.pair.com [209.68.2.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA582588067 for ; Tue, 24 May 2016 12:40:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by itonami.pair.com (Postfix, from userid 3198) id AD1308FC12; Tue, 24 May 2016 14:49:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by itonami.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB73F8FC0F; Tue, 24 May 2016 14:49:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 14:49:52 -0400 (EDT) From: David Hillman To: eric@megageek.com References: User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (BSF 1266 2009-07-14) Cc: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] It's raining compressors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net On Tue, 24 May 2016, eric@megageek.com wrote: > My question, can I transport a vertical tank compressor on it's side? I > want to help move it, but is there any reason I can't lay it down in a > truck (we can't lift it in the truck.) Generally, yes, but make sure the oil (if any) has time to drain back down before you start it. Or remove the compressor from the tank and transport in two pieces. -- David Hillman _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue May 24 14:44:58 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2081A2587FE6 for ; Tue, 24 May 2016 14:44:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mailback1.g2host.com (mailback1.g2host.com [209.98.94.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103312587C01 for ; Tue, 24 May 2016 12:43:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [198.203.175.175] (account arvidj@visi.com) by visi.com (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 6.0.11) with HTTP id 5526292; Tue, 24 May 2016 13:53:05 -0500 From: "Arvid Jedlicka" To: , Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 13:53:05 -0500 References: Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] It's raining compressors Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2961864165217331985== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I would drain the oil out of the compressor so it does not run into places is would never go when it is upright. Then refill it when it is at the final location. That's what I did ... 80 gallon two cylinder two stage that I had to lay down to get it down up the garage and down the basement stairs then into the laundry area.

The obvious 'try not to knock anything that is plumbed into the sides of the tank off when you lay it down or it rolls around in the back of the truck' disclaimer. 


On Tue, 24 May 2016 13:16:53 -0400
eric@megageek.com wrote:
> So I ordered my new compressor yesterday.  Later that night, a buddy told
> me he needed to get a air compressor out of a friend's house where it has
> been sitting for a few years.  It was never used, but he bought it new.
>
> My question, can I transport a vertical tank compressor on it's side?  I
> want to help move it, but is there any reason I can't lay it down in a
> truck (we can't lift it in the truck.)
>
> Just asking.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
> Eric P
> "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational
> being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph
> Waldo Emerson

--===============2961864165217331985== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2961864165217331985==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Tue May 24 15:02:56 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF58E25869EB for ; Tue, 24 May 2016 15:02:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from BAY004-OMC3S27.hotmail.com (bay004-omc3s27.hotmail.com [65.54.190.165]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AAB12587C6F for ; Tue, 24 May 2016 12:53:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from NAM01-SN1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([65.54.190.188]) by BAY004-OMC3S27.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Tue, 24 May 2016 12:03:22 -0700 h=From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=baMZyQYabT0zj/VXBncQ5FPJad17NJxXvD0OHiquhWM=; b=J/bOQWhkiTuHjVg+JyJWo5yXC3j2q1k5S/jJJfft9TrLmPF5tBrM35aIc1kkmc+JSr3XUWmZC+sviD6Kf5s1Uo0VjqzGUTRYKwbgld2CcyQQqRe9/+jU68wBIojyXeN0juJhrqdA414fm3c1Ma1slnxquaE6hPukLmbzn5TmLlutMbNZLGxhoq9Fmo9d0K+nwG9ztXhrd9nYP7aM7zfcor/gqbhT2k7/xthQ4UW3hOreFAQwEL+dUF9o/OOA0XxYRkio5Ew4v5XcpPhVwIW5fZ/BOl51siCeY4hae9nzNir46v6GidM7TGaWydj9oBaoZfAkUkOCX2Y/JShAc71xHg== Received: from BY2NAM01FT040.eop-nam01.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.68.55) by BY2NAM01HT023.eop-nam01.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.69.121) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.497.8; Tue, 24 May 2016 19:03:21 +0000 Received: from DM3PR20MB0619.namprd20.prod.outlook.com (10.152.68.53) by BY2NAM01FT040.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.152.68.174) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.497.8 via Frontend Transport; Tue, 24 May 2016 19:03:19 +0000 Received: from DM3PR20MB0619.namprd20.prod.outlook.com ([10.164.250.25]) by DM3PR20MB0619.namprd20.prod.outlook.com ([10.164.250.25]) with mapi id 15.01.0497.022; Tue, 24 May 2016 19:03:19 +0000 From: Brian and Wendy To: "eric@megageek.com" , "shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net" Thread-Topic: [Shop-talk] It's raining compressors Thread-Index: AQHRteeQiP9lWWpukE2vfXjNmH3iCZ/Iccmm Date: Tue, 24 May 2016 19:03:19 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US authentication-results: spf=softfail (sender IP is 25.152.68.53) header.d=none;megageek.com; dmarc=fail action=none header.from=msn.com; received-spf: SoftFail (protection.outlook.com: domain of transitioning msn.com discourages use of 25.152.68.53 as permitted sender) x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-tmn: [/o12HxbqJE40+GEMkS8fDuR2YIW7hKPf] x-eopattributedmessage: 0 x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:25.152.68.53; IPV:NLI; CTRY:GB; EFV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(98900003); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2NAM01HT023; H:DM3PR20MB0619.namprd20.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:SoftFail; MLV:ovrnspm; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 4f264710-289d-41c6-a9a4-08d3840611fc x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(1601124038)(5061506196)(5061507196)(1603103041)(1603101087)(1601125047); SRVR:BY2NAM01HT023; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(432015012)(82015046); SRVR:BY2NAM01HT023; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:BY2NAM01HT023; x-forefront-prvs: 09525C61DB FILETIME=[F1653240:01D1B5EE] Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] It's raining compressors Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3334296149082318154== Content-Language: en-US boundary="_000_DM3PR20MB0619F756C69B6FD87BF04531BB4F0DM3PR20MB0619namp_" --_000_DM3PR20MB0619F756C69B6FD87BF04531BB4F0DM3PR20MB0619namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The only thing I would worry about transporting it on it's side is oil gett= ing someplace it shouldn't and locking up the compressor. So I would drain = the oil first then you should be good to go. Brian ________________________________ From: Shop-talk on behalf of eric@megage= ek.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:16 AM To: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net Subject: [Shop-talk] It's raining compressors So I ordered my new compressor yesterday. Later that night, a buddy told m= e he needed to get a air compressor out of a friend's house where it has be= en sitting for a few years. It was never used, but he bought it new. My question, can I transport a vertical tank compressor on it's side? I wa= nt to help move it, but is there any reason I can't lay it down in a truck = (we can't lift it in the truck.) Just asking. Thanks. Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. Eric P "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational b= eing are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo= Emerson --_000_DM3PR20MB0619F756C69B6FD87BF04531BB4F0DM3PR20MB0619namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The only thing I would worry about transporting it on it's side is oil g= etting someplace it shouldn't and locking up the compressor. So I would dra= in the oil first then you should be good to go.


Brian



From: Shop-talk <shop-= talk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of eric@megageek.com <eric@meg= ageek.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 11:16 AM
To: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Shop-talk] It's raining compressors
 
So I ordered my new compressor ye= sterday.  Later that night, a buddy told me he needed to get a air com= pressor out of a friend's house where it has been sitting for a few years. =  It was never used, but he bought it new.

My question, can I transport a vertica= l tank compressor on it's side?  I want to help move it, but is there = any reason I can't lay it down in a truck (we can't lift it in the truck.)<= /font>

Just asking.

Thanks.


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a ratio= nal being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." R= alph Waldo Emerson
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The oil is the problem...either drain it first, or give it p= lenty of time to dribble back where it belongs after you set it back uprigh= t.

On May 24, 2016 2:16 PM, <eric@megageek.com> wrote:
So I ordered= my new compressor yesterday. =C2=A0Later that night, a buddy told me he needed to get a air compressor out of a friend's house where it has been sitting for a few years.=C2= =A0 It was never used, but he bought it new.

My question, can I transport a ver= tical tank compressor on it's side?=C2=A0 I want to help move it, but is ther= e any reason I can't lay it down in a truck (we can't lift it in the = truck.)

Just asking.

Thanks.


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a ratio= nal being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson
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I brought my new Porter Cable 80 gallon upright home on its side in my truck. No ill affects. 



From: Shop-talk <shop-ta= lk-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of eric@megageek.com <eric@megag= eek.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:16 PM
To: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Shop-talk] It's raining compressors
 
So I ordered my new compressor ye= sterday.  Later that night, a buddy told me he needed to get a air com= pressor out of a friend's house where it has been sitting for a few years. =  It was never used, but he bought it new.

My question, can I transport a vertica= l tank compressor on it's side?  I want to help move it, but is there = any reason I can't lay it down in a truck (we can't lift it in the truck.)<= /font>

Just asking.

Thanks.


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a ratio= nal being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." R= alph Waldo Emerson
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We recently bought a new frig and were told that if w= e moved it on its back that we should sit it upright for at least 24 hours = before plugging it in. I'm sure that was to allow oil in the compressor= to drain back into where it's supposed to be. I'd suggest doing th= e same with an air compressor that's been laid horizontally.
=
FWIW,
Ron
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 2:55 PM, Tim . <tims_datsun_stuff@outlook.com> wrote:

I brought my new Porter=C2=A0Cable 80 gallon=C2=A0upright home=C2=A0on its side<= /span> in my truck. No ill affects.=C2=A0



From: Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.tea= m.net> on behalf of eric@megageek.com <eric@megageek.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:16 PM
To: sh= op-talk@Autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Shop-talk] It's raining compressors
=C2=A0
So I ordered my new compressor ye= sterday.=C2=A0 Later that night, a buddy told me he needed to get a air com= pressor out of a friend's house where it has been sitting for a few yea= rs.=C2=A0 It was never used, but he bought it new.

My question, can I transport a vertica= l tank compressor on it's side?=C2=A0 I want to help move it, but is th= ere any reason I can't lay it down in a truck (we can't lift it in = the truck.)

Just asking.

Thanks.


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a ratio= nal being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." R= alph Waldo Emerson

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--001a1147f4f8f118ac0533a9c508-- --===============1234114722320235784== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1234114722320235784==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Wed May 25 17:55:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9F0C258A9DB for ; Wed, 25 May 2016 17:55:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from homiemail-a80.g.dreamhost.com (sub5.mail.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40E0B2586441 for ; Wed, 25 May 2016 16:52:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from homiemail-a80.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a80.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9379737A06F for ; Wed, 25 May 2016 16:02:17 -0700 (PDT) :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:message-id:date :to:mime-version; s=groupwbench.org; bh=WIKpomsQhYXySDuFwU9xH8EW +DU=; b=Am2WXXAycDRf1FmyP20Zh16aaOCyx+ER4Ns4z9wG+OA4yi89nFf5vWJu iMvYVn5OTu2pa5JwOPJgbEa7U6yqik9xMmere6RHLqOghOBV1CgCDIphB2Ee2jze wLDAGhzV27XYVpMR/nKmiN49Rf3WIUD+AR2F6qNhed3ZPSvUFQM= Received: from jims-imac.home (pool-98-118-109-236.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [98.118.109.236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jamesf@groupwbench.org) by homiemail-a80.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2ABBC37A06B for ; Wed, 25 May 2016 16:02:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Franklin Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 19:02:12 -0400 To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: [Shop-talk] Portable inductive spark testers? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net I'm looking to toss one in a basic troubleshooting kit for the moto. Some folks at garagejournal recommended the Lisle : http://www.amazon.com/Lisle-19380-Spark-Tester/dp/B0002STS3U But for < $10 I'm hesitant, since I'll likely be broken down on the road when I need this, and it had a few "cheap junk didn't work" reviews. Curious what y'all's experience is with them. thanks, jim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Wed May 25 20:10:01 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA8F258A30A for ; Wed, 25 May 2016 20:10:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mr11p24im-asmtp003.me.com (mr11p24im-asmtp003.me.com [17.110.78.109]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E202589F07 for ; Wed, 25 May 2016 18:16:02 -0600 (MDT) mr11p24im-asmtp003.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.36.0 64bit (built Sep 8 2015)) id <0O7R00400D022200@mr11p24im-asmtp003.me.com> for Shop-talk@autox.team.net; Thu, 26 May 2016 00:25:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.50.62] (unknown [184.105.18.14]) by mr11p24im-asmtp003.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.36.0 64bit (built Sep 8 2015)) with ESMTPSA id <0O7R002GJD6MU300@mr11p24im-asmtp003.me.com>; Thu, 26 May 2016 00:25:39 +0000 (GMT) definitions=2016-05-25_12:,, signatures=0 clxscore=1015 suspectscore=2 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1510270003 definitions=main-1605260004 References: <4B91421D-9083-41DD-A776-A14CE560200C@groupwbench.org> From: Pat Horne Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 19:25:32 -0500 To: Jim Franklin t=1464222339; bh=E5/p8Edr13yyhmZIYguWJ67lmwrOgdvyBduo7O5agv4=; h=MIME-version:Content-type:Message-id:From:Subject:Date:To; b=PCHHIpJgqSjk80E0jh6JoqkEXtuu3haMbfFoxQFJxp1eEF9TXVmbsICxcK6oyVSvC DYzWXEiC9Ms9SC6QPk2XgFHq0OtN07Sq5jHy0wrlz4eEA6jf8EfqVyyk6XDbkugCuF ofIbMiy1Ug0TzIY+mfBEEFfP8I3YXv5p8rYDfzdoX/OhrocPP7H+OnHRe3mkSMTmd7 3dbmQA9Kz1S7TkmeUmay/VimyV4yDNBJQiMaN8UaXxY7ey9FXiP2lsiY3n2ZQLd3EU 0kDlhCaOkbaTIsA1u+ra+3CSQMWUnXBFBGDINmA+pWcnvSQ/yDBvfJ5JndSb7S/kwq LjJsDj5Pthfvw== Cc: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Portable inductive spark testers? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Been a while since I bought from Lisle, but they used to have good stuff. I'd give it a try. Peace, Pat Pat Horne We support Caldwell County Habitat for Humanity On May 25, 2016, at 6:02 PM, Jim Franklin wrote: I'm looking to toss one in a basic troubleshooting kit for the moto. Some folks at garagejournal recommended the Lisle : http://www.amazon.com/Lisle-19380-Spark-Tester/dp/B0002STS3U But for < $10 I'm hesitant, since I'll likely be broken down on the road when I need this, and it had a few "cheap junk didn't work" reviews. Curious what y'all's experience is with them. thanks, jim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Wed May 25 20:58:55 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336FE25895B9 for ; Wed, 25 May 2016 20:58:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from dogbert2.mail.megageek.com (nj-69-34-94-16.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.94.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249C8258A15C for ; Wed, 25 May 2016 18:44:14 -0600 (MDT) To: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net From: eric@megageek.com Date: Wed, 25 May 2016 20:21:00 -0400 05/25/2016 20:21:30, Serialize complete at 05/25/2016 20:21:30 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Portable inductive spark testers? Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============7602079276481325345== This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0004ECBE85257FBF_= I've have one and it's worked the few times I used it. For some reason I always seem to forget I have it, then I test the spark the old way. Once I get a few shocks, I remember I have it! Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. Eric P "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson --=_alternative 0004ECBE85257FBF_= I've have one and it's worked the few times I used it.
For some reason I always seem to forget I have it, then I test the spark the old way.  Once I get a few shocks, I remember I have it!


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson --=_alternative 0004ECBE85257FBF_=-- --===============7602079276481325345== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============7602079276481325345==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thu May 26 06:14:26 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5153258A82E for ; Thu, 26 May 2016 06:14:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from mail-it0-f48.google.com (mail-it0-f48.google.com [209.85.214.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3C87258ABB8 for ; Thu, 26 May 2016 05:47:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-it0-f48.google.com with SMTP id z123so45057400itg.0 for ; Thu, 26 May 2016 04:57:07 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=HIF1IEOpIKBr7YZzOQ/cY9JxleDGDi9EPq9VUSJn/CI=; b=rc1G9gDmsg0HMC6tDJg4GhQflm5CrU/tXF17LaXBz2shMU6govcskYtqpnHA8qL3KC CaOTttle832j6uaiIxZYZ8O1qyYan91pCg4ytjt3B4YCfwZMkttvehwLRJQURNlSxyKA EfxNGBBY1Ji5fDZFdHFQeYBmapeUZUYYiheAzyWhx0IEsh3qaVJ41HiZgerVnIJRubmY dYCYc0XWFo2XJ+MeBhX+ORUj0Qo203EBpTgHqZDVTRv/TJfeQYtieobUkazruoA4oz2D los4he9miktbzY/tXTvHT2g2plOYW2E7QUlm0cYDEtJKSPSt5ojzrf0GmwvEgLGxs+91 o6uw== d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=HIF1IEOpIKBr7YZzOQ/cY9JxleDGDi9EPq9VUSJn/CI=; b=VQR4eYgrMIIOiZbF22xwqxWqPh5lRSRK6X0+Pp4KOOkbqlcS+SJNXEdpEssM9IEmkG WHG9/HFJKf5BKnCnM0gAs8ARpC2JVhGaU4LjyEm88x43u7+KzuMuiqbv2L5yTmTguZNX Ui1oeZsRtcf2Tw1dE0eT8VplPZB8nHYd0HYgKcRsAeBoWKswnTW1l5px+H8OieBzHseH GSVfgYdsXLl7iwRCUhSVgcdeovsA3yK1iHoTJ83SCnEi/JpBfc5Flup54a3NiRv0Is8U e6AtNcBtF886erhAs2hk055kYz9zjQFmr1Zhe3axYIZh1prIAT3jGGjqJgkfNlhn7W3Z bvpg== 26 May 2016 04:57:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.59.146 with HTTP; Thu, 26 May 2016 04:57:06 -0700 (PDT) References: <4B91421D-9083-41DD-A776-A14CE560200C@groupwbench.org> Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 06:57:06 -0500 From: John Innis To: Jim Franklin Cc: shop-talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Portable inductive spark testers? Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2401929868525709483== --001a114517303e71220533bd7ded I have that unit (not sure about the brand, but it looks exactly the same), and it does work pretty well. My only complaint is that the light is not very bright and ca be difficult to see in bright sunlight. I made a custom sun shade (cardboard tube from a roll of paper towels) for mine and it is much easier to see in the sun. The thing I really like about this is that it does not need batteries or have to be hooked up to the car. That means it will work on the lawn mower / weed eater / chainsaw when it breaks down out in the middle of the yard. My only other complaint about this thing is that it won't clip onto the plug wire (so you can't set it in place and pull the recoil on the mower to check for spark). The one I have is at least 30 years old and still works. On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Jim Franklin wrote: > I'm looking to toss one in a basic troubleshooting kit for the moto. Some > folks at garagejournal recommended the Lisle : > > http://www.amazon.com/Lisle-19380-Spark-Tester/dp/B0002STS3U > > But for < $10 I'm hesitant, since I'll likely be broken down on the road > when I need this, and it had a few "cheap junk didn't work" reviews. > Curious what y'all's experience is with them. > > thanks, > jim > _______________________________________________ > > Shop-talk@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.96 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/shop-talk/jdinnis@gmail.com > > -- ================================= = Never offend people with style when you = = can offend with substance --- Sam Brown = ================================= --001a114517303e71220533bd7ded Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have that unit (not sure about the brand, but it looks e= xactly the same), and it does work pretty well.=C2=A0 My only complaint is = that the light is not very bright and ca be difficult to see in bright sunl= ight.=C2=A0 I made a custom sun shade (cardboard tube from a roll of paper = towels) for mine and it is much easier to see in the sun.=C2=A0 The thing I= really like about this is that it does not need batteries or have to be ho= oked up to the car.=C2=A0 That means it will work on the lawn mower / weed = eater / chainsaw when it breaks down out in the middle of the yard.=C2=A0 M= y only other complaint about this thing is that it won't clip onto the = plug wire (so you can't set it in place and pull the recoil on the mowe= r to check for spark).=C2=A0 The one I have is at least 30 years old and st= ill works.

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 6:02 PM, Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.= org> wrote:
I'm looking= to toss one in a basic troubleshooting kit for the moto. Some folks at gar= agejournal recommended the Lisle :

http://www.amazon.com/Lisle-19380-Spark-= Tester/dp/B0002STS3U

But for < $10 I'm hesitant, since I'll likely be broken down on = the road when I need this, and it had a few "cheap junk didn't wor= k" reviews. Curious what y'all's experience is with them.

thanks,
jim
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--001a114517303e71220533bd7ded-- --===============2401929868525709483== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============2401929868525709483==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thu May 26 15:12:41 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD132587915 for ; Thu, 26 May 2016 15:12:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2on0117.outbound.protection.outlook.com [65.55.169.117]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0665258E49A for ; Thu, 26 May 2016 13:59:23 -0600 (MDT) d=cci523.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector1-cciir-com0i; h=From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=WsO2hnEsDvdWGeNNmq8K7KqdZDVmivj8E4EXQRBwgfY=; b=BPRsrxqmiWbMkBCssNkrlVsoxbMm5Oedom7Zs/4dTSkm6rExkoxhDYKnGaDS3/zslzVv6iViAaILWQWANcxaloNPeMe5SWkpiomN+VAzw4u6ucmQ8h1WmYZUNlj3xXgKBy5gsdMa4jjhEaW5h+5/xPX6kOz7ND1sUWtx+8CHRlM= Received: from CY1PR0301MB1529.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.162.165.151) by CY1PR0301MB1530.namprd03.prod.outlook.com (10.162.165.152) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.501.7; Thu, 26 May 2016 20:08:57 +0000 Received: from CY1PR0301MB1529.namprd03.prod.outlook.com ([10.162.165.151]) by CY1PR0301MB1529.namprd03.prod.outlook.com ([10.162.165.151]) with mapi id 15.01.0501.013; Thu, 26 May 2016 20:08:56 +0000 From: Gil Fuqua To: "eric@megageek.com" , "shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net" Thread-Topic: [Shop-talk] Fw: New Compressor Thread-Index: AQHRtb4Wvyxkxr01P0KFw2FkMP1wCZ/LprEw Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 20:08:56 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US header.d=none;megageek.com; dmarc=none action=none header.from=cci-ir.com; x-originating-ip: [74.255.129.194] x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 6899709f-416a-4d15-afdb-08d385a191af x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; CY1PR0301MB1530; 5:qzcppiw/r5JmWiLK2u2M0lYeb5x5ev9WSvCBh2bKrRDotRxIt1KEptXwq5ybq4+lTNhPE0XQ5Z34Ut3TPZqKICVa8IZnCBCkm0X1iI8itOoOaUrMlZ74U0tcTCwAVbIKIEXceOLBkfCaEYgRpC4Bvg==; 24:VjTbdE/vh1Jq3HD+63cDCYoLFSaol/l2RwsZvAmjgM7QOxtKud6zG+/W3Dy8p5UF2hO5wMYZFt8jbAaBPoG6mKHNMDnJUivtYUhDBq843l8=; 7:yrZkWt5T98wWggL7Hov6KJn4xVDv6jwoeNT0nV6+kieutPMktQPI4CL3IxH+rAX1GzWZsUHrk4kVMU60D6v2Pya5pfVueWwBgqIssN/RPn14HJvA5HjobiSDVg9gyi2vA9sKl0LLZJvT6p758wR6wMqW6qJ2LlEhs09N439hRvfnYh53B+7B9N6Yy2kC0+Q3 x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:CY1PR0301MB1530; x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:(170556858828633)(21748063052155); x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(6040130)(601004)(2401047)(5005006)(8121501046)(10201501046)(3002001)(6041072)(6043046); SRVR:CY1PR0301MB1530; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:CY1PR0301MB1530; x-forefront-prvs: 0954EE4910 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(377454003)(30504003)(85664002)(24454002)(38284003)(16236675004)(110136002)(107886002)(3280700002)(8936002)(1220700001)(19609705001)(19617315012)(189998001)(99286002)(15975445007)(5004730100002)(66066001)(1600100001)(87936001)(77096005)(33656002)(74316001)(2900100001)(86362001)(92566002)(5001770100001)(2906002)(2950100001)(19625215002)(122556002)(5003600100002)(3900700001)(2501003)(5008740100001)(9686002)(10400500002)(76176999)(50986999)(76576001)(19300405004)(54356999)(19580405001)(102836003)(8676002)(790700001)(19580395003)(6116002)(3660700001)(3846002)(81166006)(586003)(5002640100001)(106116001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:CY1PR0301MB1530; H:CY1PR0301MB1529.namprd03.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; MLV:sfv; LANG:en; spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Fw: New Compressor Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1797650129933026965== Content-Language: en-US boundary="_000_CY1PR0301MB1529B7D07EE5571138235E12D0410CY1PR0301MB1529_" --_000_CY1PR0301MB1529B7D07EE5571138235E12D0410CY1PR0301MB1529_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Eric: I added an electrical box that feeds off of the compressor shut-off switch.= It houses an hour meter, volt meter and strobe. See photos at: https://gilfuqua.smugmug.com/Other/Air-Compressor-Wiring/i-XT3B685 The system is wired so that the strobe flashes as long as there is power to= the compressor. This reminds me to turn it off at the end of the day. I = once had an airline break at night and my old compressor ran non-stop for t= he night. I now turn it off when I leave the shop and the strobe helps jog= my memory to do so. The hour meter and volt meter was wired so that they only come on while the= compressor motor is running. This gives me an accurate hour reading and l= ets me see that proper voltage is getting to the compressor. It also serve= s as a reminder to change the oil regularly. I also plumbed in an automatic drain valve. I have mine set so that it com= es on for 10 seconds every time the compressor cycles. That way, I=92m sur= e that water is regularly drained from the tank. You can buy similar contr= ols to the one shown on eBay or an industrial supply house. Alternatively,= you can hook up a short piece of clear hose from the compressor=92s drain = with a shut off on the end. The water drains into the clear hose, providin= g a visual indicator of condensation and an easy way to drain it. I had my= hose made at a hydraulic shop from material that could take the compressed= air pressure. Gil Nashville From: Shop-talk [mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of eric= @megageek.com Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 7:31 AM To: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net Subject: [Shop-talk] Fw: New Compressor IT was the one in the link. Product Code: PP07V080V1 $2450 with shipping (to the house), replacement oil after breakin, and hour= meter installed. Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. Eric P "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational b= eing are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo= Emerson ----- Forwarded by Eric Petrevich/Megageek on 05/24/2016 09:02 AM ----- > hop-talk@Autox.Team.Net>> Date: 05/23/2016 08:59 PM Subject: RE: [Shop-talk] New Compressor ________________________________ For my current compressor, the manual said to run it for the first 30 or 60= minutes with the air valve open so it would not pressurize (free air runni= ng, no load on the pump or motor). Just curious, which of those compressors did you get? best, des (mobile) ________________________________ Sent: =FD5/=FD23/=FD2016 10:53 AM ailto:shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] New Compressor I'm not sure anything special can be done for break in other than not letti= ng it run continuously and getting really hot. All I did on mine was change= the oil a couple of times during the first 20 hours, then annually after t= hat. But that might be a little excessive. On Mon, 23 May 2016 10:27:45 -0400 > I finally found the new compressor for me. I just placed the order... > > https://www.eatoncompressor.com/piston-compressors/premium-vertical-pisto= n-series-5-15hp/7.5hp%20Two%20Stage%20Industrial%20Plus%20Series/7-5hp-v4-s= ingle-phase-80-gallon-vertical-air-compressor > > It should be my last one. Now I just need to sell the old one, (oh, and > update some wiring for the new 50 amp circuit.) > > Does anyone have any ideas for a good break in? I mean with a compressor= , > is there anything I can do to? > > Just wondering. > > Thanks. > > > Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. > Eric P > "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational > being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph > Waldo Emerson --_000_CY1PR0301MB1529B7D07EE5571138235E12D0410CY1PR0301MB1529_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Eric:

I added an electrical box that feeds off of the compressor shut-off switch.=   It houses an hour meter, volt meter and strobe.  See photos at:=

 

https://gilfuqua.smugmug.com/Othe= r/Air-Compressor-Wiring/i-XT3B685

 

The system is wired so that the strob= e flashes as long as there is power to the compressor.  This reminds m= e to turn it off at the end of the day.  I once had an airline break at night and my old compressor ran non-stop for the night= .  I now turn it off when I leave the shop and the strobe helps jog my=   memory to do so.

 

The hour meter and volt meter was wir= ed so that they only come on while the compressor motor is running.  T= his gives me an accurate hour reading and lets me see that proper voltage is getting to the compressor.  It also serves as = a reminder to change the oil regularly.

 

I also plumbed in an automatic drain = valve.  I have mine set so that it comes on for 10 seconds every time = the compressor cycles.  That way, I=92m sure that water is regularly drained from the tank.  You can buy similar controls to = the one shown on eBay or an industrial supply house.  Alternatively, y= ou can hook up a short piece of clear hose from the compressor=92s drain wi= th a shut off on the end.  The water drains into the clear hose, providing a visual indicator of condensation and an e= asy way to drain it.  I had my hose made at a hydraulic shop from mate= rial that could take the compressed air pressure.

 

Gil

Nashville

 

From: Shop-talk [mailto:shop-talk-bo= unces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of eric@megageek.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 7:31 AM
To: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net
Subject: [Shop-talk] Fw: New Compressor

 

IT was the one in the link.  Product Cod= e: PP07V080V1

$= 2450 with shipping (to the house), replacement oil after breakin, and hour = meter installed.
<= br> Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
"Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a ratio= nal being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." R= alph Waldo Emerson
----- Forwarded by Eric Petrevich/Megageek on 05/24/2016 09:02 A= M -----

From:        Dirtbeard <dirtbeard@pacbell.net>
To:        Arvid Jedlicka <arvidj@visi.com>, <eric@megageek.com>, <shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net>
Date:        05/23/2016 08:59 PM
Subject:        RE: [Shop-talk] New Co= mpressor




For my current compressor, the manual said to run it for the first 30 or 6= 0 minutes with the air valve open so it would not pressurize (free air runn= ing, no load on the pump or motor).

Just curious, which of those compressors did you get?

best,

des (mobile)

From: Arvid Jedlicka=
Sent: =FD5/=FD23/=FD2016 10:53 AM
To: eric@megageek.com; shop-talk@Autox.Team.Ne= t
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] New Compressor

I'm not sure anything special can be done for break in other than not letti= ng it run continuously and getting really hot. All I did on mine was change= the oil a couple of times during the first 20 hours, then annually after t= hat. But that might be a little excessive.


On Mon, 23 May 2016 10:27:45 -0400
eric@megageek.com wrote:
> I finally found the new compressor for me.  I just placed the ord= er...
>
> https://www.eatoncompressor.com/piston-compressors/premium-vertical-piston-= series-5-15hp/7.5hp%20Two%20Stage%20Industrial%20Plus%20Series/7-5hp-v4-sin= gle-phase-80-gallon-vertical-air-compressor
>
> It should be my last one.  Now I just need to sell the old one, (= oh, and
> update some wiring for the new 50 amp circuit.)
>
> Does anyone have any ideas for a good break in?  I mean with a co= mpressor,
> is there anything I can do to?
>
> Just wondering.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
> Eric P
> "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a = rational
> being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." = Ralph
> Waldo Emerson

--_000_CY1PR0301MB1529B7D07EE5571138235E12D0410CY1PR0301MB1529_-- --===============1797650129933026965== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1797650129933026965==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thu May 26 19:11:40 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEB66258C6EE for ; Thu, 26 May 2016 19:11:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from homiemail-a83.g.dreamhost.com (sub5.mail.dreamhost.com [208.113.200.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E42D258C4BE for ; Thu, 26 May 2016 17:12:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from homiemail-a83.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a83.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D75A5E063 for ; Thu, 26 May 2016 16:21:29 -0700 (PDT) :content-type:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:references:to :in-reply-to; s=groupwbench.org; bh=eltsapwLTdNQDhV/y8xcEGxSWxY= ; b=G2vbBc+tF3FqyZYf14DAnnahqLzJv75cwb16D5qln1B0aTVGCczHZRqrN+jO xne/igwf8cy/pllLbKMVKErurALIBn70lsrJW6ZjdfXHtrBck1oQcUB8aIltUkco SE45zmcPHNnEHsi/B5h6wiwq0Kd8ClAfcHQNjyeVjCd8PlU= Received: from jims-imac.home (pool-98-118-109-236.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [98.118.109.236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jamesf@groupwbench.org) by homiemail-a83.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 09AA85E060 for ; Thu, 26 May 2016 16:21:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Franklin Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 19:21:24 -0400 References: <4B91421D-9083-41DD-A776-A14CE560200C@groupwbench.org> To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Portable inductive spark testers? Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0568886406400608140== --Apple-Mail=_16962C14-645E-4816-A510-F657157AC8FE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=us-ascii On May 26, 2016, at 12:03 AM, David Scheidt wrote: > Actually, I'm wrong: I checked the link. I've got a 26900. It's got > a ground wire and clip. I've tried the the totally wireless kind > (though not that one), and found them unreliable. If they flashed, > you ahd spark. If they didn't, maybe you didn't have spark. maybe > you did, and the tester was acting up. Yea, that's my concern, and I rarely ride where there are naive = neighborhood kids to use, so I ordered this one too. :-) Thanks all. jim= --Apple-Mail=_16962C14-645E-4816-A510-F657157AC8FE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=us-ascii
On May 26, 2016, at 12:03 AM, David = Scheidt <dmscheidt@gmail.com> = wrote:

Actually, I'm wrong: I checked the = link.  I've got a 26900.  It's got
a ground wire and clip.  I've tried the the totally = wireless kind
(though not that one), and found them unreliable.  If = they flashed,
you ahd spark.  If they didn't, maybe you didn't have = spark.  maybe
you did, and the tester was acting = up.

Yea, that's my concern, and I = rarely ride where there are naive neighborhood kids to use, so I ordered = this one too. :-)

Thanks = all.

jim
= --Apple-Mail=_16962C14-645E-4816-A510-F657157AC8FE-- --===============0568886406400608140== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0568886406400608140==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Thu May 26 20:06:31 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46401258E327 for ; Thu, 26 May 2016 20:06:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from BAY004-OMC2S26.hotmail.com (bay004-omc2s26.hotmail.com [65.54.190.101]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5E1258DCC6 for ; Thu, 26 May 2016 17:41:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from NAM02-SN1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([65.54.190.124]) by BAY004-OMC2S26.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Thu, 26 May 2016 16:51:06 -0700 s=selector1; h=From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=e79AR1hm9VGP+OXxAXsQliDNeFHPunshP5WSzTymF8s=; b=d5FdjNJEAna6uq4eA3AOpNq0VNHFoKpYM16yM7f3+u2MCiNr47WzuHBJDu11N7Q6NiQnHYdqDYwrc6FKgR/uP/HSaM9Byqyr3ef5xVBCF5BTht/KkWZZRbYy4UNAIVWuWAxwV59N2A6UnL4etm8+XAJtW0TAFLZEnQTibnPJgWyewyXinjFhx1b5yTNC9SLl3WVglH5ft+e0LN3sCGaAdkF15Got1RBbhNVy4TJszkwVnXkILzpRxjA8Jf/10hxpylgXEJlaRqb+mxc6J8qk7dstE4Wz80d6lWqTDxkk+VZwU2E7BPjMhEpCFHCxT29d7mE8UpdVTx1bMn4wRT5S7Q== Received: from CY1NAM02FT007.eop-nam02.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.74.53) by CY1NAM02HT095.eop-nam02.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.75.129) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.497.8; Thu, 26 May 2016 23:51:04 +0000 Received: from DM3PR13MB0538.namprd13.prod.outlook.com (10.152.74.59) by CY1NAM02FT007.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.152.75.5) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.497.8 via Frontend Transport; Thu, 26 May 2016 23:51:04 +0000 Received: from DM3PR13MB0538.namprd13.prod.outlook.com ([10.164.8.24]) by DM3PR13MB0538.namprd13.prod.outlook.com ([10.164.8.24]) with mapi id 15.01.0506.009; Thu, 26 May 2016 23:51:04 +0000 From: "Tim ." To: "Shop Talk" Thread-Topic: filling a floor jack Thread-Index: AQHRt6eZ29Ww0SmvYUm859i8+TxWWg== Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 23:51:04 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US authentication-results: spf=softfail (sender IP is 25.152.74.59) header.d=none; autox.team.net; dmarc=fail action=none header.from=outlook.com; received-spf: SoftFail (protection.outlook.com: domain of transitioning outlook.com discourages use of 25.152.74.59 as permitted sender) x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-tmn: [7ePOogvd+zwE3Qvff67sI1Sa658a+7Ua] x-eopattributedmessage: 0 x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:25.152.74.59; IPV:NLI; CTRY:GB; EFV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(98900003); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:CY1NAM02HT095; H:DM3PR13MB0538.namprd13.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:SoftFail; MLV:ovrnspm; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: ba431129-72b1-4081-d581-08d385c0995b x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(1601124038)(5061506196)(5061507196)(1603103041)(1603101137)(1601125047); SRVR:CY1NAM02HT095; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(432015012)(82015046); SRVR:CY1NAM02HT095; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:CY1NAM02HT095; x-forefront-prvs: 0954EE4910 FILETIME=[7802A3D0:01D1B7A9] Subject: [Shop-talk] filling a floor jack Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7283276401185680448== Content-Language: en-US boundary="_000_DM3PR13MB0538891A85B6C52E32557D2DB4410DM3PR13MB0538namp_" --_000_DM3PR13MB0538891A85B6C52E32557D2DB4410DM3PR13MB0538namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a Sears 3 ton floor jack that leaks. I've not yet really looked for = a rebuild kit but am hopeful I can find one. My dilemma is how does one go about filling the hydraulic fluid on a floor = jack? I lifted the arm all the way up, opened up the fill hole but was only= able to put a little bit of fluid in before it was full. It was far from e= nough to even lift the Datsun much less myy three ton Jeep. Thoughts? Thanks tim --_000_DM3PR13MB0538891A85B6C52E32557D2DB4410DM3PR13MB0538namp_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have a Sears 3 ton floor jack that leaks. I've not yet really looked f= or a rebuild kit but am hopeful I can find one. 


My dilemma is how does one go about filling the hydraulic fluid on a flo= or jack? I lifted the arm all the way up, opened up the fill hole but was o= nly able to put a little bit of fluid in before it was full. It was far fro= m enough to even lift the Datsun much less myy three ton Jeep. 


Thoughts?


Thanks

tim

--_000_DM3PR13MB0538891A85B6C52E32557D2DB4410DM3PR13MB0538namp_-- --===============7283276401185680448== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============7283276401185680448==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri May 27 03:23:45 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930E5258C2E2 for ; Fri, 27 May 2016 03:23:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460302588C4F for ; Fri, 27 May 2016 02:33:01 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: dnvrco-oedge02 smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.221.224.193] ([107.221.224.193:61734] helo=Meislaptop) by dnvrco-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 97/F3-10468-67808475; Fri, 27 May 2016 08:42:31 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Shop Talk'" References: Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 04:42:30 -0400 Thread-Index: AQHRt6eZ29Ww0SmvYUm859i8+TxWWp/Mdyog a=jYKPdkyBZRsFksf2v43pbw==:117 a=jYKPdkyBZRsFksf2v43pbw==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ie7G0AQfOimT5YyNvDcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] filling a floor jack Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net > My dilemma is how does one go about filling the hydraulic fluid on a floor > jack? I lifted the arm all the way up, opened up the fill hole but was > only able to put a little bit of fluid in before it was full. Did you wait for the oil to run down and try again? On my floor jack it takes a fair length of time for the oil to run down and level out. Also, lifting the arm up may fill the cylinder with air. Suggest instead you pump it up as high as it will go, add oil, repeat. Randall _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri May 27 04:35:33 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 100FA258D6A3 for ; Fri, 27 May 2016 04:35:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from SNT004-OMC2S34.hotmail.com (snt004-omc2s34.hotmail.com [65.55.90.109]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E862258CACC for ; Fri, 27 May 2016 04:06:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from NAM03-BY2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com ([65.55.90.72]) by SNT004-OMC2S34.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Fri, 27 May 2016 03:15:34 -0700 s=selector1; h=From:To:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=nCmGzEzh00ijVCU6loHGdQd3gi8Bx7arpVdLxYSRZTM=; b=WsIgFrpa8nKWuQ8qYOabSYnudmfpkMV2f/jFbWXAl52Eoz/6gnAY0E2z/9YF32E9Z3eb8cNIWpIGsGJQdFsASLSpEIJSTRuzwJdEVMFZihufRwXvxfWKzWc3kR8j2bdBTOHjkklmM+imhJ40KI2IxCZPTq5fB/8p5kqWAfvS2ZqxFURH82kiRG1m6t9phxaS0hSwiaAtxp4VOwv3/oZ5wQPzfy2cp0DlzsWGoy2jqxXBRJwNt08H/z3YPB17SANLi4unBIZX8amCUFHMxNsyNWP6T6S/VZ6NXhOAXUrVIImo4dFZBzas+CL91rX7u4WJUoZFdyHj9k5i71XRbpYI1Q== Received: from CO1NAM03FT033.eop-NAM03.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.80.51) by CO1NAM03HT172.eop-NAM03.prod.protection.outlook.com (10.152.81.170) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.497.8; Fri, 27 May 2016 10:15:33 +0000 Received: from DM3PR13MB0538.namprd13.prod.outlook.com (10.152.80.51) by CO1NAM03FT033.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.152.80.175) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.497.8 via Frontend Transport; Fri, 27 May 2016 10:15:32 +0000 Received: from DM3PR13MB0538.namprd13.prod.outlook.com ([10.164.8.24]) by DM3PR13MB0538.namprd13.prod.outlook.com ([10.164.8.24]) with mapi id 15.01.0506.009; Fri, 27 May 2016 10:15:32 +0000 From: "Tim ." To: "'Shop Talk'" Thread-Topic: [Shop-talk] filling a floor jack Thread-Index: AQHRt6eZ29Ww0SmvYUm859i8+TxWWp/MdyoggAAaHQs= Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 10:15:32 +0000 References: , <611FD59B574449E9BA826581B9C9241A@Meislaptop> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US authentication-results: spf=softfail (sender IP is 25.152.80.51) header.d=none; autox.team.net; dmarc=fail action=none header.from=outlook.com; received-spf: SoftFail (protection.outlook.com: domain of transitioning outlook.com discourages use of 25.152.80.51 as permitted sender) x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-tmn: [FGi9O6z/4rtr0GfE4Smv3r6Pqs7M1snK] x-eopattributedmessage: 0 x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:25.152.80.51; IPV:NLI; CTRY:GB; EFV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(98900003); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:CO1NAM03HT172; H:DM3PR13MB0538.namprd13.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:SoftFail; MLV:ovrnspm; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 8ac2e285-c927-4bb5-5b0c-08d38617d60c x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(1601124038)(5061506196)(5061507196)(1603103041)(1603101137)(1601125047); SRVR:CO1NAM03HT172; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(432015012)(82015046); SRVR:CO1NAM03HT172; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:CO1NAM03HT172; x-forefront-prvs: 09555FB1AD FILETIME=[B4E592B0:01D1B800] Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] filling a floor jack Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net "Did you wait for the oil to run down and try again?" I didn't wait but will this weekend. "Also, lifting the arm up may fill the cylinder with air." Not sure how air could get in with the plug still in? "Suggest instead you pump it up as high as it will go, add oil, repeat." But if I pump it up and then remove the fill plug won't that cause the pressure to release and the arm to come down pushing out even more fluid onto the floor? Thanks and keep 'em coming! tim ________________________________________ From: Shop-talk on behalf of Randall Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 3:42 AM To: 'Shop Talk' Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] filling a floor jack > My dilemma is how does one go about filling the hydraulic fluid on a floor > jack? I lifted the arm all the way up, opened up the fill hole but was > only able to put a little bit of fluid in before it was full. Did you wait for the oil to run down and try again? On my floor jack it takes a fair length of time for the oil to run down and level out. Also, lifting the arm up may fill the cylinder with air. Suggest instead you pump it up as high as it will go, add oil, repeat. Randall _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri May 27 07:39:19 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77289258F5AD for ; Fri, 27 May 2016 07:39:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4257A2590D51 for ; Fri, 27 May 2016 06:39:41 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: dnvrco-oedge01 smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.221.224.193] ([107.221.224.193:62312] helo=Meislaptop) by dnvrco-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 20/38-05067-14248475; Fri, 27 May 2016 12:49:16 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Shop Talk'" References: , <611FD59B574449E9BA826581B9C9241A@Meislaptop> Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 08:48:53 -0400 Thread-Index: AQHRt6eZ29Ww0SmvYUm859i8+TxWWp/MdyoggAAaHQuAAChMIA== a=jYKPdkyBZRsFksf2v43pbw==:117 a=jYKPdkyBZRsFksf2v43pbw==:17 a=L9H7d07YOLsA:10 a=9cW_t1CCXrUA:10 a=s5jvgZ67dGcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=4t9QQGIO1lXZuWrSEX8A:9 a=FnMLs4mK-9sFHOy8:21 a=RGMOY_3Ms2ybUXUq:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] filling a floor jack Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net > "Also, lifting the arm up may fill the cylinder with air." > > Not sure how air could get in with the plug still in? The outer part is an oil reservoir. Somewhere, there is a small vent that allows air to enter the top of the reservoir as the pump sucks oil from the bottom and forces it into the inner pressure cylinder (which in turn extends the piston and moves the jack arm). When the reservoir goes empty (because it is low on oil), the pump starts sucking air, which gets into the inner cylinder, and obviously isn't so good at forcing the piston out to raise a load. You will eventually have to work the air back out (by raising and lowering the jack with the reservoir filled, perhaps several times) to get it working again; and then check the reservoir level again. > But if I pump it up and then remove the fill plug won't that cause the > pressure to release and the arm to come down pushing out even more fluid > onto the floor? The plug just opens into that reservoir. It does serve as a test port, so you could possibly get some oil dribbling out under some circumstances; but it won't be under pressure. At least that's the way it's been on every floor and bottle jack I've ever owned. Randall _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Fri May 27 10:49:45 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81A5C2593803 for ; Fri, 27 May 2016 10:49:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from dogbert2.mail.megageek.com (nj-69-34-94-16.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.94.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95D18258DE50 for ; Fri, 27 May 2016 09:43:16 -0600 (MDT) To: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net From: eric@megageek.com Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 11:20:17 -0400 05/27/2016 11:20:35, Serialize complete at 05/27/2016 11:20:35 Subject: [Shop-talk] Fw: Fw: New Compressor Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============4888148012789107895== This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 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21:44:09 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] (99-7-68-55.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.7.68.55]) by pv35p10im-ztdg05021101.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7.0.5.36.0 64bit (built Sep 8 2015)) with ESMTPSA id <0O7W00JABPPJAD20@pv35p10im-ztdg05021101.me.com>; Sat, 28 May 2016 21:44:08 +0000 (GMT) definitions=2016-05-28_15:,, signatures=0 clxscore=1011 suspectscore=4 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1510270003 definitions=main-1605280258 From: Robert nogueira Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 16:44:06 -0500 References: To: eric@megageek.com t=1464471849; bh=silq1KNyMSWlWK6oZBBDRQTdLc5cklXKNpU9VA6eu8s=; h=Content-type:MIME-version:Subject:From:Date:Message-id:To; b=tJpFOYd5nxQjjePVK2EPru0mDNQBN4s+IdyUUDA5a+qShKuXPZd0p1Xor1K8V2IPQ 95Zh/JT4HT8NWaupXYVy0OIUk3w4KfPXa7DPqeq7v8LZbxpKIBWl0INhwZDYSjdt/s Pgx/eMyllLqpV66GfsJtxBNBROX/qi6VOhCAZtmxCXfkEeQbGPQaRRKdeZe3YSkPbV 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Wonder when t= hey last had a order for a pink one? Bob Nogueira=20 > On May 23, 2016, at 9:27 AM, eric@megageek.com wrote: >=20 > I finally found the new compressor for me. I just placed the order...=20 >=20 > https://www.eatoncompressor.com/piston-compressors/premium-vertical-piston= -series-5-15hp/7.5hp%20Two%20Stage%20Industrial%20Plus%20Series/7-5hp-v4-sin= gle-phase-80-gallon-vertical-air-compressor=20 >=20 > It should be my last one. Now I just need to sell the old one, (oh, and u= pdate some wiring for the new 50 amp circuit.) =20 >=20 > Does anyone have any ideas for a good break in? I mean with a compressor,= is there anything I can do to?=20 >=20 > Just wondering.=20 >=20 > Thanks.=20 >=20 >=20 > Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. > Eric P > "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational b= eing are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." 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Eric, I just gotta know, what color option are you going for?   Wonder when they last had a order for a pink one?

Bob Nogueira 

On May 23, 2016, at 9:27 AM, eric@megageek.com wrote:

I finally found the new compressor for me.  I just placed the order...

https://www.eatoncompressor.com/piston-compressors/premium-vertical-piston-series-5-15hp/7.5hp%20Two%20Stage%20Industrial%20Plus%20Series/7-5hp-v4-single-phase-80-gallon-vertical-air-compressor

It should be my last one.  Now I just need to sell the old one, (oh, and update some wiring for the new 50 amp circuit.)  

Does anyone have any ideas for a good break in?  I mean with a compressor, is there anything I can do to?

Just wondering.

Thanks.


Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
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--Apple-Mail-3F94FC10-2E98-4CD0-B854-0449775220FF-- --===============4569987448367240989== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4569987448367240989==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Sat May 28 22:52:26 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7755825989EB for ; Sat, 28 May 2016 22:52:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from dogbert2.mail.megageek.com (nj-69-34-94-16.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.34.94.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A9E25ACC41 for ; Sat, 28 May 2016 18:48:14 -0600 (MDT) References: To: Robert nogueira From: eric@megageek.com Date: Sat, 28 May 2016 20:25:13 -0400 05/28/2016 20:25:31, Serialize complete at 05/28/2016 20:25:31 Cc: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] New Compressor Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============2347011486864364132== This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0005474C85257FC2_= I went with the black one. But I did ask if they have camo. They can do mulit color patterns, but it would have slowed delivery down significantly. Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem. Eric P "Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your rights as a rational being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph Waldo Emerson From: Robert nogueira To: eric@megageek.com Cc: shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net Date: 05/28/2016 06:12 PM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] New Compressor Eric, I just gotta know, what color option are you going for? Wonder when they last had a order for a pink one? Bob Nogueira On May 23, 2016, at 9:27 AM, eric@megageek.com wrote: I finally found the new compressor for me. I just placed the order... https://www.eatoncompressor.com/piston-compressors/premium-vertical-piston-series-5-15hp/7.5hp%20Two%20Stage%20Industrial%20Plus%20Series/7-5hp-v4-single-phase-80-gallon-vertical-air-compressor It should be my last one. Now I just need to sell the old one, (oh, and update some wiring for the new 50 amp circuit.) Does anyone have any ideas for a good break in? I mean with a compressor, is there anything I can do to? Just wondering. Thanks. --=_alternative 0005474C85257FC2_= I went with the black one.  But I did ask if they have camo.  They can do mulit color patterns, but it would have slowed delivery down significantly.

Sent from my Commodore 64 on a 2400 Baud Modem.
Eric P
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From:        Robert nogueira <nogera@icloud.com>
To:        eric@megageek.com
Cc:        shop-talk@Autox.Team.Net
Date:        05/28/2016 06:12 PM
Subject:        Re: [Shop-talk] New Compressor



Eric, I just gotta know, what color option are you going for?   Wonder when they last had a order for a pink one?

Bob Nogueira

On May 23, 2016, at 9:27 AM, eric@megageek.com wrote:
I finally found the new compressor for me.  I just placed the order...

https://www.eatoncompressor.com/piston-compressors/premium-vertical-piston-series-5-15hp/7.5hp%20Two%20Stage%20Industrial%20Plus%20Series/7-5hp-v4-single-phase-80-gallon-vertical-air-compressor

It should be my last one.  Now I just need to sell the old one, (oh, and update some wiring for the new 50 amp circuit.)  

Does anyone have any ideas for a good break in?  I mean with a compressor, is there anything I can do to?

Just wondering.

Thanks.




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