I have these on my deck:

They aren't super bright, but they give enough light to ha= ng out under and eat a meal, etc.=C2=A0 They are medium-base sockets,=C2=A0= so you could re-lamp them with any typical lamp.=C2=A0 For permanent insta= llation, I'd run a messenger wire and zip tie the string to that.

For remote control, something= like this

https://a.co/d/i= Euondu

I have a name= -brand version that I use for my outdoor Christmas lights.=C2=A0=C2=A0

On Tue, Nov 5, 202= 4, 22:52 Moose <eric@megageek.com> wrote:

I'm trying to put = up outdoor string lights to light up a porch (that leads to the shop).=C2=A0 I want string lights, but it seems that all the ones I can find barely give off any light, or they are construction ones and way too harsh and not meant for permanent mounting.

Ideally, they will plug in (or har= dwire), they will have a remote control (but NOT an app for a phone) for on and off.=C2=A0 If they can change colors and a dimmable, that is a great bonus.=

Does anyone know if such a animal = exists? =C2=A0Amazon are full of ones that meet these needs, except they are way too dim.

Thanks in advance

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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 73d1e346b018c857b9bc4014bc8197a0; Wed, 06 Nov 2024 12:35:30 +0000 (UTC) From: "john niolon" To: "shop-talk" Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 06:35:28 -0600 User-Agent: OEClassic/4.9.2 (Win10.19045; F; 2024-10-24) References: <1Uhg1Qlzrm.5RgE8d6BuVk.ref@johns-desktop> mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo Subject: [Shop-talk] Fw: Outdoor String Lights Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6396020156093443211== --------------000509000503080907050903 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline =20 =20 Moose, bet=20 you're gonna have to look in the Commercial market and not the Chinese one j=20 =20 ----- Original Message ----- From: Moose To: Sent: 11/5/2024 4:50:06 PM Subject: [Shop-talk] Outdoor String Lights I'm=20 trying to put up outdoor string lights to light up a porch (that leads to t= he=20 shop). I want string lights, but it seems that all the ones I can find bar= ely=20 give off any light, or they are construction ones and way too harsh and not= =20 meant for permanent mounting.=20 Ideally, they will plug in (or hardwire), they will have a remote control (= but=20 NOT an app for a phone) for on and off. If they can change colors and a=20 dimmable, that is a great bonus.=20 Does anyone know if such a animal exists? Amazon are full of ones that mee= t=20 these needs, except they are way too dim.=20 Thanks in advance=20 Moose --------------000509000503080907050903 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline

Moose, bet you're gonna have to look in = the Commercial market and not the Chinese one

j

= ----- Original Message -----

= From: Moose <eric@megageek.com<= /A>>

= To: <Shop-talk@autox.tea= m.net>

= Sent: 11/5/2024 4:50:06 PM

= Subject: [Shop-talk] Outdoor String Lights

I'm = trying to put up outdoor string lights to light up a porch (that leads to t= he shop). I want string lights, but it seems that all the ones I can = find barely give off any light, or they are construction ones and way too h= arsh and not meant for permanent mounting.

Ideally, they will plug in (or hardwire), they will have a = remote control (but NOT an app for a phone) for on and off. If they c= an change colors and a dimmable, that is a great bonus.

Does anyone know if such a animal exists? &nbs= p;Amazon are full of ones that meet these needs, except they are way too di= m.

Thanks in advance=

Moose

--------------000509000503080907050903-- --===============6396020156093443211== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive --===============6396020156093443211==-- From shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Nov 6 06:41:16 2024 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D966BA0C7C for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2024 06:41:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net Received: from Deep13.mail.Megageek.com (unknown [34.199.103.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578C7A0574 for ; Wed, 6 Nov 2024 06:36:42 -0700 (MST) References: <1Uhg1QleJT.491t224vjh4@johns-desktop> To: Shop-talk@autox.team.net type=4; name=$KeepSent From: eric@megageek.com Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2024 08:36:15 -0500 11/06/2024 08:36:32 AM, Serialize complete at 11/06/2024 08:36:32 AM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Outdoor String Lights Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============0304135495970298798== This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 004ABAC985258BCD_= I agree, but where can I find options for commercial lights without being in the industry? From: "john niolon" To: "Moose" Date: 11/06/2024 07:35 AM Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Outdoor String Lights Moose, bet you're gonna have to look in the Commercial market and not the Chinese one j ----- Original Message ----- From: Moose To: Sent: 11/5/2024 4:50:06 PM Subject: [Shop-talk] Outdoor String Lights I'm trying to put up outdoor string lights to light up a porch (that leads to the shop). I want string lights, but it seems that all the ones I can find barely give off any light, or they are construction ones and way too harsh and not meant for permanent mounting. Ideally, they will plug in (or hardwire), they will have a remote control (but NOT an app for a phone) for on and off. If they can change colors and a dimmable, that is a great bonus. Does anyone know if such a animal exists? Amazon are full of ones that meet these needs, except they are way too dim. Thanks in advance Moose --=_alternative 004ABAC985258BCD_= I agree, but where can I find options for commercial lights without being in the industry?

From: "john niolon" <jniolon@att.net>
To: "Moose" <eric@megageek.com>
Date: 11/06/2024 07:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Outdoor String Lights

Moose, bet you're gonna have to look in the Commercial market and not the Chinese one
j

----- Original Message -----
From: Moose <eric@megageek.com>
To: <Shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Sent: 11/5/2024 4:50:06 PM
Subject: [Shop-talk] Outdoor String Lights

I'm trying to put up outdoor string lights to light up a porch (that leads to the shop). I want string lights, but it seems that all the ones I can find barely give off any light, or they are construction ones and way too harsh and not meant for permanent mounting.

Ideally, they will plug in (or hardwire), they will have a remote control (but NOT an app for a phone) for on and off. If they can change colors and a dimmable, that is a great bonus.

Does anyone know if such a animal exists? Amazon are full of ones that meet these needs, except they are way too dim.

Thanks in advance

Moose
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Take a look at noveltylights.com

We=E2=80= =99ve bought a couple of different items from them. You can go so far as t= o source piece parts and roll your own, should you want to go that route=E2= =80=A6

On Nov 6, 2024, = at 8:54 AM, eric@megageek.com wro= te:

I agree, but where can I find options for=0Acommercial lights without= being in the industry?

=

From: =0A "john = niolon"=0A<jniolon@att.net>
To: &= nbsp; =0A "Moose" <eric@megageek.com>
Date: =0A 11/06/2024 07:35= AM
Subject: =0A Re: [Shop-talk]=0AOutdoor String Lights
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Moose, bet you're gonna have to=0Alook in the Commerci= al market and not the Chinese one
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I'm trying to= put up outdoor string=0Alights to light up a porch (that leads to the sho= p). I want string=0Alights, but it seems that all the ones I can fin= d barely give off any light,=0Aor they are construction ones and way too h= arsh and not meant for permanent=0Amounting.

Ideally, they w= ill plug in (or hardwire), they will have a remote control=0A(but NOT an a= pp for a phone) for on and off. If they can change colors=0Aand a di= mmable, that is a great bonus.
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Moose<= /span>
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So, it looks like the grommets don't compress enough b= ecause the toilet tank rests on the center=C2=A0hole before they squeeze ou= t enough?=C2=A0 If so, I would either:

A - Use some sili= cone sealer (for kitchens and bathrooms) around the grommet in the tank=C2= =A0hole as I put it together, or=C2=A0

B - Use a l= arge plastic washer as a shim between the grommet and the bowl top ledge.= =C2=A0 This would require some careful guesswork, I reckon, to get the=C2= =A0right thickness to do the job=C2=A0correctly.

I= might go all SAT and choose "Both A and B".

I don't u= nderstand why they=C2=A0don't want you to use sealer, as I assume they = are replacing the defective parts.

On Th= u, Nov 21, 2024 at 8:43=E2=80=AFAM Jim Franklin <jamesf@groupwbench.org> wrote:

I bought 3 Kohler Cimarron toilets= for a job I'm doing, because the one in my house is great. Well, the n= ew ones are very different and I should have read all the reviews on the Ho= me Depot site.

The tank-to-bowl connection is made with 2 bolts that pass through grommets= . These grommets expand as the bolts are tightened, sealing the holes in th= e tank through which they pass. Problem is, quality control let some tanks = through with holes oversize enough that the grommets won't seal. Kohler= even sent me a new supposedly redesigned grommet kit, which slowed down th= e leaks to a drip once per minute. They said they'd send a new tank but= can't expedite it, so we're looking at after Thanksgiving, and no = guarantee that the new tank won't also be mismanufactured.

My thought is to use a sealant on the grommets. Kohler said "we don= 9;t advise that", but I really need to wrap this up. Is there a rubber= -compatible, submergeable sealant that will work in this application?

Another thought I just had is to add washers on top of the bowl where the b= ottom of the grommets sit so that the grommets are compressed another 1/16&= quot;. But I don't want the grommets to then start leaking on the insid= e along the bolt if I overcompress and they open up.

There are images near the bottom of this page:

https://www.faucet.com/kohler-k-31615-white-cimarron-1-28-gpf-t= oilet-tank-only-left-hand-lever/f4091621#reviews

thanks,
jim
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To: Shop Talk Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Sealing toilet tank mounting bolts? (Jim Franklin) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net > On Nov 23, 2024, at 12:06 AM, Mark Miller wrote: > > I wouldn't mess with it. If it doesn't seal after you try the sealant which they told you not to try (although it most likely will) you have little hope of them returning or supporting you further. I'd return them all and go get something else. I'd recommend some Toto toilets. I've always done well with Kohler but these seem to be bad. They woud have replaced the tank without me needing to return the defective one so that's not an issue. I would have gone Toto but I needed them fast and couldn't wait the etra days for them to come in. Kohler used to be my goto. Support was very good though it seems quality has gone downhill. > On Nov 21, 2024, at 9:49 AM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote: > > So, it looks like the grommets don't compress enough because the toilet tank rests on the center hole before they squeeze out enough? If so, I would either: > > A - Use some silicone sealer (for kitchens and bathrooms) around the grommet in the tank hole as I put it together, or > > B - Use a large plastic washer as a shim between the grommet and the bowl top ledge. This would require some careful guesswork, I reckon, to get the right thickness to do the job correctly. I ended up doing B, along with Dremeling off a high point on the rim of the hole that was cocking the bolt a bit, plus lightly chamfering the hole edges and lightly sanding the inside of the hole itself. It worked. I was prepared to silicone it though, it's just an opaque fishtank after all :-) thanks, jim _______________________________________________ Shop-talk@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/shop-talk http://autox.team.net/archive