From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 26 14:28:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F5872D06B9 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:28:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc4-s33.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc4-s33.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60B412D0387 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:25:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU0-SMTP31 ([65.55.111.136]) by blu0-omc4-s33.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:26:19 -0700 Received: from JimandAnneHP ([64.229.236.93]) by BLU0-SMTP31.blu0.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:26:18 -0700 From: Jim Dwyer To: "Spitfire list" Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:26:07 -0400 FILETIME=[27E4C1B0:01CDB3B8] Subject: [Spits] Clutch is slipping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net My clutch is starting to slip on my 76 Spit and probably needs replacing. This winter I am planning on taking the tranny out through the interior and I will also replace the three U joints in the rear end, get the flywheel resurfaced, and replace the fluids in the tranny and rear end while I am at it. The only parts I have so far are the U joints and the rubber tranny mounts. I may need to install a new carpet set as well if the old one does not come out in one piece. Any suggestions on parts that work well or other things that I should do or check while everything is apart would be appreciated. Any tips or tricks that I should know would be great as well. Thanks Jim _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 26 14:45:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A047D2D06E6 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:45:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (fed1rmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF5D2D063D for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:43:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo210 ([68.230.241.161]) by fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20121026204448.IQVX32719.fed1rmfepo102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo210> for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:44:48 -0400 Received: from Vista ([68.110.89.224]) by fed1rmimpo210 with cox id Fwko1k0044qRjhw01wkofL; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 16:44:48 -0400 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=uAJnnmGN6wgA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=4XQ5LTfsXHQFZaKOvbgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'Jim Dwyer'" , "'Spitfire list'" References: Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 13:45:06 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac2zuLcMg49EP/vHQhKemRxOUn2YDQAAfTRQ Subject: Re: [Spits] Clutch is slipping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net I've always used the Borg and Beck clutch kits and have never had an instant's problems wit them. Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Dwyer Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 1:26 PM To: Spitfire list Subject: [Spits] Clutch is slipping My clutch is starting to slip on my 76 Spit and probably needs replacing. This winter I am planning on taking the tranny out through the interior and I will also replace the three U joints in the rear end, get the flywheel resurfaced, and replace the fluids in the tranny and rear end while I am at it. The only parts I have so far are the U joints and the rubber tranny mounts. I may need to install a new carpet set as well if the old one does not come out in one piece. Any suggestions on parts that work well or other things that I should do or check while everything is apart would be appreciated. Any tips or tricks that I should know would be great as well. Thanks Jim _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 26 15:00:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF49C2C0C9A for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 15:00:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from tx2outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (tx2ehsobe002.messaging.microsoft.com [65.55.88.12]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036122D06A1 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 14:58:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail123-tx2-R.bigfish.com (10.9.14.249) by TX2EHSOBE002.bigfish.com (10.9.40.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:59:21 +0000 Received: from mail123-tx2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail123-tx2-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65D4A4E00E9; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:59:21 +0000 (UTC) H:BY2PRD0410HT004.namprd04.prod.outlook.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: permerror (mail123-tx2: error in processing during lookup of domain of redcross.org: Could not find a valid SPF record) client-ip=157.56.236.85; envelope-from=Michael.Mack@redcross.org; helo=BY2PRD0410HT004.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ;.outlook.com ; Received: from mail123-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail123-tx2 (MessageSwitch) id 1351285159581525_20382; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:59:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TX2EHSMHS014.bigfish.com (unknown [10.9.14.251]) by mail123-tx2.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F0924A012C; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:59:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from BY2PRD0410HT004.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (157.56.236.85) by TX2EHSMHS014.bigfish.com (10.9.99.114) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:59:19 +0000 Received: from BY2PRD0410MB377.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.10.153]) by BY2PRD0410HT004.namprd04.prod.outlook.com ([10.255.83.39]) with mapi id 14.16.0224.004; Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:59:17 +0000 From: "Mack, Michael (Rochester)" To: Jim Dwyer Thread-Topic: [Spits] Clutch is slipping Thread-Index: AQHNs7iuxH8a5oSBH0OU39gKljUQOpfMEWzw Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 20:59:16 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [162.6.97.24] Cc: Spitfire list Subject: Re: [Spits] Clutch is slipping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net I replaced the clutch with a Borg and Beck this past Spring in my 79 Spit. I've put 2k miles on it without any issues. Gets my vote. Mike Mack 79 Spitfire 73 Stag 80 TR8 76 TR7 _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 28 19:38:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B8B2D07A7 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:38:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com (mail-vb0-f41.google.com [209.85.212.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09DA2D06C4 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:31:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id v13so5766357vbk.14 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:32:19 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=wkJUes0KOrIJ1ChpUnCE9NDAaf0vYxD0keP8pIi+iNI=; b=g5eEgFz+4fY6Tr+3e571Zr8Nw4EpHl3l01zhVpHndtCCt2FpG0C0qPS2Na/YPWOBq0 trsEwxQBLTXfsN3K+79Bw4cOE4RNTKmTwBezFw6GnKGeYb7fQO+kOjJsmUFxw7nQyaTb Dx2zgRrkjAZR5QsC2+Eto8SbIYkA9zXChNDwdgZ94bMi0jgMPRi/0m9UYp3EdeyWfiWk wakD8HB4/YJRFjommgvrWvzIbq2I5auc/P1h1DRMNhRdwSZNQQNs04jtpDODiJLDx2Lg sV3GTToMprvK+EZTPqW7ZBXJraFOiRz9BD0zoE0dzakgDbl44Tw4JfbEL4ogav80UtCz BfAg== Received: by 10.58.249.201 with SMTP id yw9mr51379569vec.10.1351474338935; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.64.15 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:32:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:32:18 -0400 From: Doug Braun To: Spitfire Group , triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] Windshield installation tips? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Hello, I am ready to re-install the windshield in my freshly-repainted Spit, with a new rubber gasket (the more expensive version from TRF). Does anyone have any tips? I am particularly wondering if I ought to use some sort of sealant during installation, or instead apply it afterwards. Thanks, Doug _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 28 19:42:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E512C2D07FA for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:42:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01F592D04DD for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:42:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id fl17so5751258vcb.14 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:43:10 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=4W1TbR/iIWdcFoggJyURM9yxbhuFEo//A0gCtYznjFA=; b=PA7FbIxnDvfXULZLNIXHSI5Rv8T67FJyYmMQhUIF7ZsKbTN/6NyPRAvcaeVuECKyzl 0J3PuIRKyqMAz0GSHEreiVlqaJsa/LKFaMxeiSldU0cBWTlaoEgV+JP9JEIW2pZqlPfQ BtEv1uE17ocix7zK2sFK5CYncxsMiHYjfoqlVS7huqXkigKo6kMKttGgKcQJW+keeJLu muJv37Lqnpg9DNz5i7sCzcw06bfduzjDTz0qt807WUV9d3HQrGDgZN1+68b/6/7AqNg6 2czq5pQ+eO+Op97znEzlGa3HS8SloQSRPEBkhuXzEP3vTd6WV/K3WYW22lIQT/jeVZbH 5QyA== Received: by 10.220.150.145 with SMTP id y17mr6743091vcv.11.1351474990522; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.64.15 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:43:10 -0400 From: Doug Braun To: Spitfire Group Subject: [Spits] Pop Rivets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net I need to re-install all those things that are pop-riveted in place, like the top snaps and the trim across the top of the windshield frame. Is there a particular type of pop-rivet I ought to use? The parts vendors sell them, but I am wondering: are they selling authentic British pop-rivets, or just the same generic ones I could get at Hope Depot? BTW, here's the car: http://dougbraun.com/blog/sptifire/ Thanks again, Doug _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 28 19:53:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896642D07E5 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:53:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCCA82D04FE for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:53:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 05B061C000173; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mha002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mha002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.238.130]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id BD494E000086; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:54:11 -0400 (EDT) References: To: doug@dougbraun.com, spitfires@autox.team.net From: "Andrew S. Mace" Received: from 74.209.31.79 by webmail-d010.sysops.aol.com (205.188.181.34) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:54:11 -0400 Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 21:54:11 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20110426; t=1351475651; bh=e6gcW2AUIdVMaoPAgLUlu7pnO6lZSK4czYF6+QByGZM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kc5tzEL/T6z3Nc9ySRfdGRX/T0nLXakypilmLTXWWIyJJSqN54EcO6aI4kdTRg9s1 mw4hZPwcJtKEBxj140ys6Nk8Y1WPYcw9C2AXZrgwbPufR5OKI1LdRc4v/QVahHxJF9 Rqw1W5mwnzUud/qf390fmlOE6XvFtBS5jVFz++7I= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c7508de1c342de Subject: Re: [Spits] Pop Rivets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net I think the only significant difference is that original rivets tended to be steel, while those more commonly available from hardware stores tend to be aluminum. At least that's what I remember, not having done this in quite some time. --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us -----Original Message----- From: Doug Braun To: Spitfire Group Sent: Sun, Oct 28, 2012 9:43 pm Subject: [Spits] Pop Rivets I need to re-install all those things that are pop-riveted in place, like the top snaps and the trim across the top of the windshield frame. Is there a particular type of pop-rivet I ought to use? The parts vendors sell them, but I am wondering: are they selling authentic British pop-rivets, or just the same generic ones I could get at Hope Depot? _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 28 20:01:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1C72D07FD for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 20:01:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD3F2D06C4 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 20:01:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id fl17so5762843vcb.14 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:02:19 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Uk+0c9fMLMj36Kx8Q4XJtJra//98qYYT/lsIhUvB2Qs=; b=KIpHwiE7tVkbDU8ilUxU3fL4JOXnT0SwR8ALtBFmyMD1WeFmjNxtyJosDQStSApE5k XbGdvVjG3DhTLBBEFIwTati9u3Vvr/Umx23RsYXA4noK1VmpoHYgjsAdaWbhFQdOsxy9 KhU4Q/4Y59TnuPg+v1BaJNdVA8f5v59PEWCpsQcqPAJ2vRX0MGVPlAUYm5GZEoF/Fcmr 5S+zBenHHE6wzdz2Fx358DhdFUNxK5pWaR590oqjgRsQX+xK8wfeGrtEIQl7JOZFeZFb F0FaB+o5k6H7JYRqO21cmqRGMlPMQBSU6yatQvLw7o+gDpt7NZztsUA+W9R3StiFf74U lQyg== Received: by 10.58.249.201 with SMTP id yw9mr51447741vec.10.1351476139459; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.64.15 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:02:19 -0700 (PDT) References: <8CF838F6CF85CCD-94C-4BB97@webmail-d010.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:02:19 -0400 From: Doug Braun To: "Andrew S. Mace" Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spits] Pop Rivets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Unfortunately I had to drill out and destroy all of the ones on my car. I should have taken some close-up photos first... I have some interesting rivets I bought once, at a hardware store going-out-of-business sale. The bottom end is sealed, so there is no path for moisture to pass through the center hole. I might use those. Doug On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Andrew S. Mace wrote: > I think the only significant difference is that original rivets tended > to be steel, while those more commonly available from hardware stores > tend to be aluminum. At least that's what I remember, not having done this > in quite some time. > > --Andy Mace _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 28 20:11:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 161862D07EC for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 20:11:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com (mail-vb0-f41.google.com [209.85.212.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65322D06C4 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 20:03:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id v13so5785977vbk.14 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:04:13 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=rEXFPDuU3H3RseV8+JR2PQ7B1OpDAShU8J+iZenuS10=; b=OffoC1stKU3xFA9sgyxKs65YMgCcpPRyXcpi0p3bCEuDEih8YSLIb3YQ1CHcgaS3TL 3XO319z0ynM6YTa2gVAfXHq9MO0waARC/esS6V36zlabIn0AbcVEsmG2w4XzWy+2/ecK wTBEzL0cyLSEvapohEwv9CbneInFVJWu8kPDRGsrXk2dfyezdAoqws/km6cHBR/1H0k1 f6qQpjGFU5orpIWWJpVSQIOCepenzwdkMt2RkVf80JJy1krZPUzmy54YOsF4mPR+BXp1 9ZLxkDBGSYb+61kw7mMPgzgAyZBEIOS56boKF19yYKagkD6hnZS/Ri97ZMTBEk7wvvEP zjHg== Received: by 10.58.12.164 with SMTP id z4mr29413511veb.6.1351476253908; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:04:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.64.15 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:04:13 -0700 (PDT) References: <8CF838F6CF85CCD-94C-4BB97@webmail-d010.sysops.aol.com> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 22:04:13 -0400 From: Doug Braun To: "Andrew S. Mace" Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spits] Pop Rivets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net There are some very interesting pop rivets out there. Home Depot sells only the most mundane kind. For example: http://www.mcmaster.com/#pop-rivets/=jxa85i Doug _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 29 12:51:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 068D82D051A for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:51:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 201292D03AC for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:50:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.89]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Gyio1k0051vXlb8536s0JN; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:52:00 +0000 Received: from sz0089.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id H6s31k01J2ymm843d6s3hE; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:52:03 +0000 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 18:51:51 +0000 (UTC) From: todjones@comcast.net To: Spitfire Group Subject: Re: [Spits] Pop Rivets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Use stainless steel pop rivets. They are sold alongside the aluminum ones at most stores. If the holes are questionable use the washers in the same section to back up the rivets. You just put in the rivet as usual. then reach around to the other side to put on the washer before you set the rivet. To rivet the snaps you may have to have the nose of the rivet tool turned down to fit inside the snap. Otherwise it wont be tight. Tod Jones Harrisonburg VA. 67 Spit-6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Braun" To: "Spitfire Group" Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:43:10 PM Subject: [Spits] Pop Rivets I need to re-install all those things that are pop-riveted in place, like the top snaps and the trim across the top of the windshield frame. B Is there a particular type of pop-rivet I ought to use? The parts vendors sell them, but I am wondering: B are they selling authentic British pop-rivets, or just the same generic ones I could get at Hope Depot? BTW, here's the car: B http://dougbraun.com/blog/sptifire/ Thanks again, Doug _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/todjones@comcast.net _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 29 13:17:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806662D080C for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:17:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BFDA2D04DC for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:13:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id fl17so6840722vcb.14 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:14:45 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=E2umMUOxuF2cqvZQkdIkVu/Onj1OikYScIH3tByiJyA=; b=SYam11z4TwfTmWCLgMwzT3Z53dfPQouj6XNVVBedd07LAML9X50cwiYhEf7yIcisIo cbuZBPlDr19txqryip9f+diFotjM0HP2qg9JtZRK6NO1d95Q7s/7C6iajo56ocukowxI m+FYq6eKPuYMhec30noShUDY1kBg4+85UpHIDB7Q0nvPvZgOv0o2zyvfST1nPosgH7tV fLizRgE8waQX76tMLGWOB3P6gP6PGIKcmHZCcKKkf1aN9w7utXHFlh35vgtijGf8wxmf dabeTSai2hunbsXfXE4AU+SmWM+4xPRwLponsD8QuSp3IjamaSVlYg1S1nKA590BB7st 78fg== Received: by 10.52.74.6 with SMTP id p6mr40129497vdv.124.1351538085773; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Quad3400 (cpe-67-240-51-24.nycap.res.rr.com. [67.240.51.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x4sm6229007vdh.13.2012.10.29.12.14.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:14:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Clark W. Nicholls" To: , "'Spitfire Group'" References: <1498626923.1004838.1351536711164.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:14:43 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac22Bp34EdGJUDKoRlyoMq6uDSab3AAAtuXw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Spits] Pop Rivets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net I use the screw-on top contact of a spark plug to shim out the pin of the pop rivet. It fits into the recess of the snap! Clark Clark W. Nicholls 1972 Stag (LE7931E) for sale, 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) and 1 rusty GT6 needing new owner KC 5577 L www.botchagaloop.net for old racing photos "Reality, it's not what you think." -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of todjones@comcast.net Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 2:52 PM To: Spitfire Group Subject: Re: [Spits] Pop Rivets Use stainless steel pop rivets. They are sold alongside the aluminum ones at most stores. If the holes are questionable use the washers in the same section to back up the rivets. You just put in the rivet as usual. then reach around to the other side to put on the washer before you set the rivet. To rivet the snaps you may have to have the nose of the rivet tool turned down to fit inside the snap. Otherwise it wont be tight. Tod Jones Harrisonburg VA. 67 Spit-6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Braun" To: "Spitfire Group" Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:43:10 PM Subject: [Spits] Pop Rivets I need to re-install all those things that are pop-riveted in place, like the top snaps and the trim across the top of the windshield frame. B Is there a particular type of pop-rivet I ought to use? The parts vendors sell them, but I am wondering: B are they selling authentic British pop-rivets, or just the same generic ones I could get at Hope Depot? BTW, here's the car: B http://dougbraun.com/blog/sptifire/ Thanks again, Doug _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/todjones@comcast.net _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/cwnfot@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 29 13:38:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DA32D05C9 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:38:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f41.google.com (mail-qa0-f41.google.com [209.85.216.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39FC82D04E6 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:38:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id c4so2061863qae.14 for ; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:39:52 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=sj62T1eQTbfsee8NXrr9zeK1bN19+7lL7YO5Gxh+1m4=; b=g6GFFsCeszh+ow2oi7ClEN4+UVfiSbTaBQGdWcIKx8FOxDJBhY40Ywtt5iKL7zZbfz +5qNn6I4nBzIUPA2jZnrYEWU8NLWHd6ORoYzVZ5BzC8CAE6tfMTDwoePClkKeaj/2YlL KV4dJJMwz2B3KIB7gW8wJRrx05gDqG8cXlmxQW3nSUf7T0lMVz3rcZOho+elt+nRal28 BO9fQQQkApGQGmvsyx1y+Y2X7DpBrxDo0BdMa1ylrIiqnh1sdVfY1+83J84xRDK1jnOY AxpkigcvxbUenF+q6CQEs978D4pqvk+ZKdH7elxA2YDOGJ1QXO7RbGjkH4wgruRfXoA9 EeAQ== Received: by 10.224.217.136 with SMTP id hm8mr18900392qab.81.1351539592785; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.18.169 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:39:52 -0700 (PDT) References: <1498626923.1004838.1351536711164.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <002401cdb609$a766b760$f6342620$@com> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 15:39:52 -0400 From: Doug Braun To: "Clark W. Nicholls" Cc: Spitfire Group Subject: Re: [Spits] Pop Rivets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Brilliant! Fortunately I have a pop rivet tool with a skinny snout. Doug On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Clark W. Nicholls wrote: > I use the screw-on top contact of a spark plug to shim out the pin of the > pop rivet. It fits into the recess of the snap! _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 30 12:20:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6612C2D0469 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:20:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from defout.telus.net (outbound04.telus.net [199.185.220.223]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33892D02D9 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:18:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edtncm02 ([199.185.220.224]) by priv-edtnes26.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.8.01.03.00 201-2260-125-20100507) with ESMTP id <20121030181931.TSSL14893.priv-edtnes26.telusplanet.net@edtncm02> for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:19:31 -0600 Received: from yourb27fb1c401 ([154.20.154.172]) by edtncm02 with bizsmtp id HWKC1k00s3jSP2q01WKGLl; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 12:19:43 -0600 cv=6BEWn0cqSe6M7hI6LFeyoMJe70umFVggF6P/zNqDbGU= c=1 sm=2 a=ta359NuY660A:10 a=LGgl8L9ij00A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=nUuTZ29dAAAA:8 a=mRCDa-QdJqRuvcfu14YA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 From: "Nick Moseley" To: "'Doug Braun'" , "'Spitfire Group'" References: Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 11:19:12 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac21djcrv27EUj1YRI+3lEr3YUt6igBU9p6Q Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Spits] Windshield installation tips? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Doug, I'm no expert but will speak from the experience of having successfully installed one windshield. IMO, you should not need to use additional sealant. If you are installing the chrome (or plastic) trim strips, I understand you are far better to install them before installing the windshield. I used the "rope trick" to pull the edge of the seal/gasket into the cabin. One thing I would do differently is to feed the rope such that the join is at the top, rather than the bottom of the windshield, as the last 4 inches of seal was not pulled in by the rope, and it would have been easier to access the gasket had it been at the top of the windshield. Good luck, your Spit looks fantastic! Nick Moseley __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7643 (20121030) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 30 21:39:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3823C2D0855 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:39:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com (mail-vb0-f41.google.com [209.85.212.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7BB2D08B4 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 21:07:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id v13so1274853vbk.14 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:08:49 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=8EY2O5H4F5CN7cQnWBO68Eox9xmeQHB+ZDs7qby12G8=; b=gcYxdgxLjF2su8KCkaq/QhgPFNo6B4Zs6qkrMrXt7xzsMrbrrkU9kjcyHVqmOTmJvs 0hADye2SQPfyBFoPm4tgsYuaAUIUBqOgtIsRRAaApPjxgeg8tiXTZxLrbjIaeKuh+6E4 jIst3kbajL2ELG6QjdSLFYCl0STHG7JrLbzuElkb2uI/N/B+nP7sEYdmIHS/PyaMVbzg 2FAMyhHQh+1gdgQ5Xc9hDrPTwUcZNw/AVF4t9tFvhjFJvd3coTiYj842og+wv6Lx2VT7 3Rkrw1Q3VvMyXifBn103tYzlY7pDQkbXgz6IdRGpIGlDShYz+YkQYCwEodXcB/F1yZfz hJLA== Received: by 10.220.8.73 with SMTP id g9mr38131943vcg.28.1351652929589; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:08:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.64.15 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:08:49 -0700 (PDT) References: <1498626923.1004838.1351536711164.JavaMail.root@sz0089a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <002401cdb609$a766b760$f6342620$@com> <001801cdb70e$3c7d4440$b577ccc0$@com> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 23:08:49 -0400 From: Doug Braun To: Spitfire Group Subject: Re: [Spits] Pop Rivets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net I realized I still had a couple of original pop rivets -- for the snaps on the side trim panels behind the seats, that hold the bottom corners of the top boot. They are definitely aluminum. Doug On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Bill Gingerich wrote: > Don't use the steel ones if you're putting the plastic tonneau cover snaps > on the body. The snaps will split. Been there. > > BillG _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive