From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 3 20:10:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02C940547 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 20:10:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E7F4052E for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 20:09:56 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id l1so2417710vba.41 for ; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 19:09:49 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=Q8eNgv/AxFn0iqcZT4XjnBgzOLHvKzawxcYO/vkv/XI=; b=HTcVXeJc7s8N1Fk4tTHwfQ2N+1tVtG+HjCjpqqn1R1J32CRRs/S2tA1H50jwmi9pbN TqbTi5/KNc+yMgTycYoWZSvazKp2BmEcGeFgyn8Q5T/VggXyXU0w5uCNELDHlK5o5rXD wB+BfAHrIa+j4D1oR39JMZfvY4+eQ2LES7ekrmhrz74GNn1lPEPuTAFdVGa26AJ8N+mm YwOAZ4IAcrWex4hl+JmtDiI6xnAx7LeSFySw6z4Pn5Znnn/n4Jw0ehfIWF6vIYfguCS8 gvsqH+FirGNsjTeP0mg5KMQAIvQuERTN/uXnZg7/HgR6+23kp7M1d8Ojtl6kZKEdZNBa Ti4w== Received: by 10.58.252.72 with SMTP id zq8mr10814224vec.20.1354590589097; Mon, 03 Dec 2012 19:09:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.64.15 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Dec 2012 19:09:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 22:09:48 -0500 From: Doug Braun To: Spitfire Group Subject: [Spits] Touching up black stainless steel trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Hello, On my car, one of the black-finished stainless steel pieces that go over the rear fender seams has gotten scratched, and the shiny bare metal shows in the scratches. Does anybody know a good way to touch up that finish? The other unscratched piece is in perfect condition- I am surprised how well that finish has held up over the years. Thanks, Doug _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 4 11:55:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FBB640557 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 11:55:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA9C40550 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 11:55:03 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id l1so3489720vba.41 for ; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 10:54:52 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=xqvX5AO8OZd6/wEHKcpSnubsV999tS+2ooVjITpF6es=; b=IyfOMsyIhqNA+0mnhjqbrOD/Mch6efuC9XI02UpwAZeSS/CdSjL6RmXBjb+N459tz2 0GYuKgspjWLtCXXL8e/VsaTis6E+dV8WOZ2+tlNcoT5hHoPnlI2Bzl8CjiZbBJH8x6Bv JHma4Y8+xYU1T122OJtUgH6+yF2ehK6ltVFx06DWPRe+c7LYhRAJ8TVLtVmBA9Rkfg78 7QA/CphJqq5tPJrp96c/xrY+K4GjaEKP+NhBhFefYCi98UA9VLkYHXXwEQlyoEqdYR3k gtgOsITqa8ETp2hCxDfCmwh57KbccOuAXCiW3Aq1irdJ+OQe1r2x1N68+cmVbwpleehq WkUw== Received: by 10.52.89.132 with SMTP id bo4mr10754961vdb.80.1354647292383; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 10:54:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.64.15 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 10:54:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 13:54:52 -0500 From: Doug Braun To: Spitfire Group Subject: [Spits] Busted my windshield :-( Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Hello, I had decided to keep my original windshield as I repainted my car, but today I managed to bust it while trying to improve its fit in the car. So I definitely need a replacement squaretail windshield. Any suggestions? I live in central NJ. Thanks, Doug _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 4 12:26:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A5740E6C for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 12:26:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFF9D40E2A for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 12:26:07 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id l1so3532899vba.41 for ; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 11:25:56 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=WIJbLAy+aH5xXRLYBT4FLTU+kwZjIieb/OIXA0dyUPY=; b=gL+DrdzPB2TJCUJE8vEP1SXSVBvq3a2heyKrL6cmGgLLqQFxwrOEpZUC2yihJZKZ9Q TakOAHBI9ievK2o08rwJl1jm3+D9vB4DUxLZraoxHFXk0LLnG4WP0CIk/zdaOaAM8Pih 9zhpDLsAwNlYojKcDujiDZTNdl+/96Sv66uwetsNLs4cusCr5mLpoLnFVsgpc2HYSIw4 ihSWI7EJf00IG4HjuDjZiuSSVGESL/xciI3dn983j0vBuuKFNgzv7SVcpcV+s9qnbpzK jp4JD5AqShqiULIQPMrrQPhmDq/+l3drWovB2fBAm5axYcV+gcG7XncJHxintvAXdTc7 x4LA== Received: by 10.52.173.207 with SMTP id bm15mr10874842vdc.88.1354649156493; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 11:25:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.64.15 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 11:25:56 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 14:25:56 -0500 From: Doug Braun To: Spitfire Group Subject: Re: [Spits] Busted my windshield :-( Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net BTW, can a normal glass shop get a Spit windshield of acceptable quality, for an acceptable price? Thanks, Doug On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Doug Braun wrote: > Hello, > > I had decided to keep my original windshield as I repainted my car, but > today I managed to bust it while trying to improve its fit in the car. > > So I definitely need a replacement squaretail windshield. Any suggestions? > I live in central NJ. > > Thanks, > Doug _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 4 14:13:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 077984055D for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 14:13:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from defout.telus.net (defout.telus.net [204.209.205.33]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DA1C40556 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 14:13:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from edmwcm02 ([204.209.205.31]) by priv-edmwes51.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.8.01.03.00 201-2260-125-20100507) with ESMTP id <20121204211325.BGII10700.priv-edmwes51.telusplanet.net@edmwcm02> for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 14:13:25 -0700 Received: from yourb27fb1c401 ([154.20.154.172]) by edmwcm02 with bizsmtp id XZDD1k03H3jSP2q01ZDH6G; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 14:13:24 -0700 cv=9G/38mUmIyIlj1VMuts0tlZPyym/TIQhjsSIcYjLY6Q= c=1 sm=2 a=xNLy8QA7h84A:10 a=LGgl8L9ij00A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=tLug9nZA2tkA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=aatUQebYAAAA:8 a=nUuTZ29dAAAA:8 a=NnyOP82sVu1oUoJa3O8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=rBKJJ2Jc0C4A:10 From: "Nick Moseley" To: "'Doug Braun'" , "'Spitfire Group'" References: Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 13:13:12 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac3SUOvdzFedjM75TXGkLSYRwAybcwAEw9nQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Spits] Busted my windshield :-( Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Doug, are you in a hurry? I have a buddy (in NJ) who has access to a collector who is getting out of Spitfires. He may have a windshield amongst the hoard. My buddy is out of town (and out of touch) for a few days, so it may take a while to confirm availability. Nick Moseley Metro Vancouver -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Doug Braun Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 10:55 AM To: Spitfire Group Subject: [Spits] Busted my windshield :-( Hello, I had decided to keep my original windshield as I repainted my car, but today I managed to bust it while trying to improve its fit in the car. So I definitely need a replacement squaretail windshield. Any suggestions? I live in central NJ. Thanks, Doug _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/nmoseley@telus.net __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7763 (20121204) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 7764 (20121204) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 4 15:01:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76D840560 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 15:01:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from m1plsmtpa01-08.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-08.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.187]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC6140559 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 15:01:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from Datsun ([76.184.166.234]) by m1plsmtpa01-08.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id Xa0t1k00553lu5001a0t2Y; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 15:00:54 -0700 From: "Dave" To: "Spitfire Group" References: Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 15:52:55 -0600 Subject: Re: [Spits] Busted my windshield :-( Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net I believe a tr6 windshield, which I think also means tr4/tr4a, is the same. I know the tr6 windshield is available new. and there are numerous parts cars and people parting them out. -----Original Message----- From: Doug Braun Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 12:54 PM To: Spitfire Group Subject: [Spits] Busted my windshield :-( Hello, I had decided to keep my original windshield as I repainted my car, but today I managed to bust it while trying to improve its fit in the car. So I definitely need a replacement squaretail windshield. Any suggestions? I live in central NJ. Thanks, Doug _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 4 15:01:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3221B40687 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 15:01:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from m1plsmtpa01-08.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-08.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.187]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19939403FB for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 15:01:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from Datsun ([76.184.166.234]) by m1plsmtpa01-08.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id Xa0t1k00553lu5001a0u2c; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 15:00:54 -0700 From: "Dave" To: "Spitfire Group" References: Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 15:55:26 -0600 Subject: [Spits] 1975 i think Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net my car is ostensibly a 75. and below the blue is a different blue, and below that, at least in some places, is white. and the inside of the bonnet is brown. that means the bonnet is a replacement, right? and how do I tell what production year it is? and what color it really was. _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 4 15:11:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E183840E3A for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 15:11:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F7E40562 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 15:11:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1A1A138B for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 15:12:26 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2012 15:12:25 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 To: Spitfire Group References: <86D31622AE694F7F8A9EDE972984EC4F@Datsun> Subject: Re: [Spits] Busted my windshield :-( Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Dave wrote: > I believe a tr6 windshield, which I think also means tr4/tr4a, is the > same. I know the tr6 windshield is available new. and there are > numerous parts cars and people parting them out. The TR4-6 windshield fits roundtails, not squaretails. mjb. _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 4 16:13:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A28404055C for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 16:13:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (fed1rmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3034140557 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 16:13:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo209 ([68.230.241.160]) by fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20121204231320.HBOZ32719.fed1rmfepo102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo209> for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 18:13:20 -0500 Received: from Vista ([68.110.89.224]) by fed1rmimpo209 with cox id XbDL1k00H4qRjhw01bDLTx; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 18:13:20 -0500 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:17 a=xNLy8QA7h84A:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=KpTZ_U-sFNAA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=DDyZKZA_np_ezbXzSw0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=+gsTCRNi9hDmPqRdVMnvhA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'Dave'" , "'Spitfire Group'" References: <86D31622AE694F7F8A9EDE972984EC4F@Datsun> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 16:13:30 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac3SauHIjUW5ArPnSVGvNl9jjleJdAACf5Uw Subject: Re: [Spits] Busted my windshield :-( Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net The TR6 and TR4 windshields will fit a Roundtail Spit but not the MkIV and 1500. Those are different. Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 2:53 PM To: Spitfire Group Subject: Re: [Spits] Busted my windshield :-( I believe a tr6 windshield, which I think also means tr4/tr4a, is the same. I know the tr6 windshield is available new. and there are numerous parts cars and people parting them out. -----Original Message----- From: Doug Braun Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 12:54 PM To: Spitfire Group Subject: [Spits] Busted my windshield :-( Hello, I had decided to keep my original windshield as I repainted my car, but today I managed to bust it while trying to improve its fit in the car. So I definitely need a replacement squaretail windshield. Any suggestions? I live in central NJ. Thanks, Doug _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 4 16:50:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED62140570 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 16:50:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f169.google.com (mail-qc0-f169.google.com [209.85.216.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CFD340554 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 16:49:00 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id t2so2983057qcq.14 for ; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 15:48:48 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=SfMb/kTkHQIl+n5xq/rkztBn9CbJWK78CpcPClWUCNo=; b=OP9J9aWZ9vCbBtyrvYF5MObIQ4nrb+yB4CRtO0b1u7ZCmZ+iEgdbjlXWuMTCNjkCHa +hy+lQGE0YpRHVF1SjPHIVyBCdthPDTN9IYpGUY/ZcZt5faUXwzF/DBjPGiLINRQcZE/ tZzMaNwFiGDhj32ANPcGwsgLEwSpeGFuE1mxaD/JbVVgyKx9hvkD4M6sAp81Cne1Jtui AibhA9yQIEYBCQGAq7jb5ACQjHJ4UAo+UwNrQ3cSOdpEo8qnH4FQii7NnFyv59grsecs VnXscUVZ8SxStdY+wTi6L9MQDsD4SqXkbFRKxeUsjnXRlJc5cS7CAtdeFBkZ3RpbnTkL 9YOQ== Received: by 10.49.29.199 with SMTP id m7mr28767828qeh.41.1354664928061; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 15:48:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.131.136 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 15:48:47 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 18:48:47 -0500 From: Doug Braun To: Dave Cc: Spitfire Group Subject: Re: [Spits] 1975 i think Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Some time after 1972, they added some stuff to the rear edge of the hood to keep it from guillotining you in a crash. That's the only thing I know that changed on the bonnet over the squaretail production history. Doug On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Dave wrote: > my car is ostensibly a 75. and below the blue is a different blue, and > below that, at least in some places, is white. and the inside of the > bonnet is brown. that means the bonnet is a replacement, right? and how > do I tell what production year it is? and what color it really was. > ______________________________**_________________ > > Spitfires@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spitfires/doug@**dougbraun.com _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Dec 4 17:38:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A64540565 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 17:38:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f48.google.com (mail-qa0-f48.google.com [209.85.216.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FAAD40546 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 17:38:15 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id l8so1491663qaq.14 for ; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 16:38:03 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=Fbiwet36C9c7cNJPKSDFS1BgF6S59nnsDa8j/d/6/q8=; b=TWf2QzQsWzqGC1XIAZ/AURuSbQ8xV2UReSDO160cTMrD03unUdW9OG3FmYKRFFEzI1 hwMs1CkBswhaTY4xZlqs8FKvXqtB0vzyc8POiwk34HMFzmeTA04G6i4sbccFAYBN/Ewp qH8PSP9ghoG1dSX4QRX+KatJUZtCunIgo6uefTdhUr3I720/FZmNnwhahqDebRbKR1WE 3GlquoSYNuuZHKCZ8do2MTr0jpEoW57rzBY7b+pQJtlvug6vNgzjh/Owpdlnm/AgYzCc 8pcjG7Pr1en9d6AtwR6zviCceSJ2rxBkwUQvhdHZmLbuSQEAmi07rPaJRw8XeYuBXyMF U7uw== Received: by 10.229.204.149 with SMTP id fm21mr5562469qcb.18.1354667883384; Tue, 04 Dec 2012 16:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.131.136 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Dec 2012 16:38:03 -0800 (PST) References: <2h9mdsd8m334xu32po7hcl6i.1354667183082@email.android.com> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 19:38:03 -0500 From: Doug Braun To: Dan Parrott Cc: Spitfire Group Subject: Re: [Spits] 1975 i think Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Is that a piece of sheet metal with a L-shaped cross section? My '72 has that. Doug On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Dan Parrott wrote: > > I've had several Spit Bonnets. A couple of them have a stiffener that > bolts to the cross brace, about 4 feet long. Was this item ever stock? _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 16 13:20:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0C642816 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:20:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B7C40E83 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:18:12 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=F1Vbgs5ONAHVHnmjNGUTLkP7L340hzddJ3/fuONRUtorBHQiGvz0RpMDyHOem2J7; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.145.250.31] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TkKdz-0002FA-Be for spitfires@autox.team.net; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:17:03 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:17:46 -0600 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120806 Thunderbird/14.0 To: Spitfire list Subject: [Spits] Top Timing cover Screw Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All, I am putting my engine back together. One of the screws at the top timing cover, is held in by the the front engine plate being threaded. Right behind that screw is the mounting bracket for the alternator. Well, the threads in the engine plate are to stripped to hold the screw, and I can't put a nut on the backside of the plate as the bracket does not allow room for one. Has anyone else run into this problem? Did you find a solution? I have thought about using JB Weld, but I am not sure it is the best solution. Thanks, Roger Elliott 80 Spitfire _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 16 14:33:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35064285A for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:33:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f169.google.com (mail-ia0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACEEF42816 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:33:12 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ia0-f169.google.com with SMTP id r4so5143016iaj.14 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:32:01 -0800 (PST) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=Ekr3Rl38hDzQkI1qGwWIlpmUl9Jk5JWhW5fO+geBV0Y=; b=om1T59NrWMGnPkKURNoYKklMBMW2bSN/B3MuI/4+YGcxnqqzpT7YefyCjD8osBADOc KjCl0izKA4TvnephOeWoRmhI3GtCuJqlgKz3NXxx2BaAO6lvOvXDsa+YrjvW2qQ7r6H5 VpweHrWhz6HiOEz5E91FkmjPOWz2ngJcBIo/93gzDtvs/1UgOyU+PJKFLKRpKItzgdpj WpnWsPxbToRIp7PX267d4OYCUv+0n0lYQFz/uiGhW3XTuYyV3Zs7qnZuVCMf/ZuqgsvG kgrJCwo8HQVHMMxQIurFnQji/RRkkfOni5F3nYeDxkFToCW6EYSsm0we/crFMWl1tyAZ iSXg== Received: by 10.50.194.131 with SMTP id hw3mr7203287igc.71.1355693520904; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:32:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from T43 (c-98-240-146-92.hsd1.mn.comcast.net. [98.240.146.92]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eu3sm4137547igc.7.2012.12.16.13.31.59 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Dec 2012 13:32:00 -0800 (PST) From: "Bill Gingerich" To: "'Roger Elliott'" , "'Spitfire list'" References: <50CE2C6A.8060805@rmi.net> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:31:59 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac3byqfg3lwATbgzR8WgrOM/1C41hAAChT8Q Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Spits] Top Timing cover Screw Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net I think I put a helicoil in the block on mine. BillG -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roger Elliott Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 2:18 PM To: Spitfire list Subject: [Spits] Top Timing cover Screw Hi All, I am putting my engine back together. One of the screws at the top timing cover, is held in by the the front engine plate being threaded. Right behind that screw is the mounting bracket for the alternator. Well, the threads in the engine plate are to stripped to hold the screw, and I can't put a nut on the backside of the plate as the bracket does not allow room for one. Has anyone else run into this problem? Did you find a solution? I have thought about using JB Weld, but I am not sure it is the best solution. Thanks, Roger Elliott 80 Spitfire _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/wrgingerich@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 16 17:11:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9194293F for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:11:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA51427B5 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:10:33 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=ov8b98IZKhBkwf6GX1YQ7X5Mq0HYl4VIsUNLmao6AVTR/MwIj9SDrknr7p+exACm; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.145.250.31] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TkOGp-00084P-Le for spitfires@autox.team.net; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:09:23 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:10:06 -0600 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120806 Thunderbird/14.0 To: 'Spitfire list' References: <50CE2C6A.8060805@rmi.net> <000b01cddbd4$c8cd2650$5a6772f0$@com> Subject: Re: [Spits] Top Timing cover Screw Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All, Several people have suggested Helicoils, which I mus confess I did not think of. The engine front plate is only about .160 inches thick, whereas the helicoil is about .320 inches deep. Would the depth difference cause a problem? Thanks, Roger Elliott On 12/16/2012 03:31 PM, Bill Gingerich wrote: > I think I put a helicoil in the block on mine. > BillG > > -----Original Message----- > From: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roger Elliott > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 2:18 PM > To: Spitfire list > Subject: [Spits] Top Timing cover Screw > > Hi All, > > > I am putting my engine back together. One of the screws at the top timing > cover, is held in by the the front engine plate being threaded. > Right behind that screw is the mounting bracket for the alternator. > > Well, the threads in the engine plate are to stripped to hold the screw, and > I can't put a nut on the backside of the plate as the bracket does not allow > room for one. > > Has anyone else run into this problem? Did you find a solution? > > I have thought about using JB Weld, but I am not sure it is the best > solution. > > Thanks, > Roger Elliott > 80 Spitfire > _______________________________________________ > > Spitfires@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/wrgingerich@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 16 17:27:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCCF40E83 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:27:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA9A40EA2 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:27:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20121217002618.IYUH24708.mta31.charter.net@imp11>; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:26:18 -0500 Received: from UserPC ([96.32.2.169]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id cQSJ1k0083enFnk05QSJJx; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:26:18 -0500 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:17 a=YFBVqHXDfkgA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=vBxbNK-wqUgA:10 a=8A7brI4kjU8C6ETGAX3PRdgeao0=:19 a=5lucXWJGAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=8bkyW-_fn4wHStEw9gsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=Wgtnnb8ITO8tWMBA:21 a=Ovoy_29JQYr8knOo:21 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:117 From: "Alex&Janet Thomson" To: "'Roger Elliott'" , "'Spitfire list'" References: <50CE2C6A.8060805@rmi.net> <000b01cddbd4$c8cd2650$5a6772f0$@com> <50CE62DE.2030504@rmi.net> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:26:18 -0500 Thread-index: AQF8+wg5i/rs5ru3bhFq0s4GMo0ffALRQTNgAkO47DGYlTttsA== Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [Spits] Top Timing cover Screw Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net A link below will take you to the McMaster Carr catalog where they list various thread inserts. Naturally, most of those repair methods involve special tools for insertion.Not sure if there is enough room for these or not. Sounds like a heli-coil is out of the question based on the plate thickness. Is there room to use a jam nut (skinny nut) on the back of the plate? http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-rivet-nuts/=kmgbbf Alex Thomson -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roger Elliott Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 7:10 PM To: 'Spitfire list' Subject: Re: [Spits] Top Timing cover Screw Hi All, Several people have suggested Helicoils, which I mus confess I did not think of. The engine front plate is only about .160 inches thick, whereas the helicoil is about .320 inches deep. Would the depth difference cause a problem? Thanks, Roger Elliott On 12/16/2012 03:31 PM, Bill Gingerich wrote: > I think I put a helicoil in the block on mine. > BillG > > -----Original Message----- > From: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roger Elliott > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 2:18 PM > To: Spitfire list > Subject: [Spits] Top Timing cover Screw > > Hi All, > > > I am putting my engine back together. One of the screws at the top > timing cover, is held in by the the front engine plate being threaded. > Right behind that screw is the mounting bracket for the alternator. > > Well, the threads in the engine plate are to stripped to hold the > screw, and I can't put a nut on the backside of the plate as the > bracket does not allow room for one. > > Has anyone else run into this problem? Did you find a solution? > > I have thought about using JB Weld, but I am not sure it is the best > solution. > > Thanks, > Roger Elliott > 80 Spitfire > _______________________________________________ > > Spitfires@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/wrgingerich@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/aljlthomson@charter.net _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Dec 16 19:30:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F870428E7 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:30:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9105B427AB for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:30:20 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id c14so8979327ieb.14 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:29:09 -0800 (PST) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=stu3XhgWG4MpN2rzkTz/9BGTE1AtTYmd56/zrgVWCXw=; b=xlaaNSflPTKAFpI/4D7Tl/XU2ukNHmy4pg6NoE3KP6ikuJynHr89StlgknoVgSXmEx kukM5RI/yQAZMdYwrYJtm+80KpAQPjqWCU6iRYbk1Sj3BAaH3XEa4u5QygDIGB2ClFFb RwsAb0CVhOh8hEgW1TO6i5HG4HofQef6UQ0dBiX6grThghXzIzT7GC/JGIFr3oZAsksO x2+UtEayZWpYj0Y6MDfb1rvYXeiAe/9ipQVbPdOV28kyQ7lKxZY/ZQfQIyL5dN2G1qTg 9V3Fq8itNOCU02pO9Mr5UpZMy5OOA68HKhTeVKv87pXG5nBu28FRkRHachl3xhNENhTP D8Nw== Received: by 10.50.182.163 with SMTP id ef3mr7958079igc.32.1355711348867; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:29:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from T43 (c-98-240-146-92.hsd1.mn.comcast.net. [98.240.146.92]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gs6sm5132554igc.11.2012.12.16.18.29.07 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:29:08 -0800 (PST) From: "Bill Gingerich" To: "'Alex&Janet Thomson'" , "'Roger Elliott'" , "'Spitfire list'" References: <50CE2C6A.8060805@rmi.net> <000b01cddbd4$c8cd2650$5a6772f0$@com> <50CE62DE.2030504@rmi.net> <002201cddbed$21f88680$65e99380$@charter.net> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 20:29:06 -0600 Thread-index: AQF8+wg5i/rs5ru3bhFq0s4GMo0ffALRQTNgAkO47DGYlTttsIAAIQ6A Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [Spits] Top Timing cover Screw Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Is there any room to tap a thread in the block behind the plate? I just don't remember. Another idea is you could drill out the plate, and weld a threaded insert into the larger hole. Perhaps enlarge the hole in the alternator bracket to fit around the insert. That would give you a longer thread for the bolt to go into. Not sure how much torque a .160 long thread would hold. Thinking back, it was one of the other front plate holes that I helicoiled. Maybe the sealing block? BillG -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alex&Janet Thomson Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 6:26 PM To: 'Roger Elliott'; 'Spitfire list' Subject: Re: [Spits] Top Timing cover Screw A link below will take you to the McMaster Carr catalog where they list various thread inserts. Naturally, most of those repair methods involve special tools for insertion.Not sure if there is enough room for these or not. Sounds like a heli-coil is out of the question based on the plate thickness. Is there room to use a jam nut (skinny nut) on the back of the plate? http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-rivet-nuts/=kmgbbf Alex Thomson _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 17 12:07:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE034056F for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:07:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84ED4056B for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:06:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cc1U1k00417dt5G53j5bTG; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:05:35 +0000 Received: from sz0079.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cj5b1k0082ymm843Zj5bGP; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:05:35 +0000 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:05:34 +0000 (UTC) From: George Parker To: spitfires@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1355771135; bh=8Khd2qvuCli4m1QJYJ3CqsIH81jKXte5MgrhZQvTutk=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=OdF3TlsGz5M2coJXKsyQKMielH/myS5aSK+jMkLGMo2ogoecDSdrGxn5N0Fh48buD 3Vs+pyW8JYOZT2w4AhZFS+R9BNvhIV/lnW6uTJseSWQE3H9O9TNeEuAtKdCtdScUSJ XfFCKGFJOt1DSSjlw10iVHJFdpSDjmdX6XrsOpaqvDOGNgPXFFjvUGAGv04dxeYAFh kJ5xzk3HKloSXW5CY3dLqXY9PxQi7SDy79m0BPNa+V2R8jLMbBpChaYdoTSjJfc2GC vPatMF2Ut8qQDbomkZzMvjYn9bXxuv16qid8XkxxFZsP0EpyZQjKSsg/bnAlPEkepW 4WBtmItYoao2g== Subject: Re: [Spits] Top Timing cover Screw Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net I'm trying to remember the configuration here...B But if I recall correctly, the mounting bracket in question mounts right behind the stripped out screw hole??B CanB one long bolt be put through the timing cover, front plate (where the threads are stripped) and the mounting bracket?B Just a thought... v/r, George P. _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 17 12:11:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5044F40E20 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:11:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575FA4056E for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 12:11:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20121217191028.WAHX6169.mta11.charter.net@imp11> for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:10:28 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([24.231.194.49]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id cjAT1k00A14R4eo05jATe4; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:10:28 -0500 a=pqI+vdes0DpKFPsz35vwQA==:17 a=OvIMvpSEN2sA:10 a=NkQAd65VblkA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=bkuOviYtbPYA:10 a=OCZkqsUbAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=8bkyW-_fn4wHStEw9gsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=T2M1hVH0JtkA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=pqI+vdes0DpKFPsz35vwQA==:117 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:10:11 -0500 From: Glenn Franco User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Thunderbird/17.0 To: spitfires@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Spits] Spitfires Digest, Vol 6, Issue 103 Timing Cover Screw Stripped Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Roger If you buy a helicoil thread repair kit for that size thread you will find that half the inserts are half the depth of the standard thread insert. I think it's 5/16"x20 or 1/4"x 20. I've run into this problem on my Spit racer and many engines I have rebuilt in the last couple of years. It worked on my race car. If their are any threads proud of the surface, grind them off. Everything you need to do the thread repair other than the drill is in the kit. Another fix would be to fill the hole with weld, re-drill and tap. It's a bit difficult to drill the weld however. Glenn ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:17:46 -0600 From: Roger Elliott To: Spitfire list Subject: [Spits] Top Timing cover Screw Hi All, I am putting my engine back together. One of the screws at the top timing cover, is held in by the the front engine plate being threaded. Right behind that screw is the mounting bracket for the alternator. Well, the threads in the engine plate are to stripped to hold the screw, and I can't put a nut on the backside of the plate as the bracket does not allow room for one. Has anyone else run into this problem? Did you find a solution? I have thought about using JB Weld, but I am not sure it is the best solution. Thanks, Roger Elliott 80 Spitfire ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:31:59 -0600 From: "Bill Gingerich" To: "'Roger Elliott'" , "'Spitfire list'" Subject: Re: [Spits] Top Timing cover Screw I think I put a helicoil in the block on mine. BillG -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roger Elliott Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 2:18 PM To: Spitfire list Subject: [Spits] Top Timing cover Screw Hi All, I am putting my engine back together. One of the screws at the top timing cover, is held in by the the front engine plate being threaded. Right behind that screw is the mounting bracket for the alternator. Well, the threads in the engine plate are to stripped to hold the screw, and I can't put a nut on the backside of the plate as the bracket does not allow room for one. Has anyone else run into this problem? Did you find a solution? I have thought about using JB Weld, but I am not sure it is the best solution. Thanks, Roger Elliott 80 Spitfire _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 17 13:45:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48AC3424CE for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:45:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F764225C for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:45:53 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=JyR7f8CAFLsykpLuoRJWjpN2RCd6FLQZzAWfzv+hFnISioP2rUFsw4mY8iQVE2Z8; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.50] (helo=mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TkhYE-00083q-NM for spitfires@autox.team.net; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:44:38 -0500 Received: from 198.203.177.177 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 15:44:38 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:44:38 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Roger Elliott To: spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spits] Top Timing cover Screw Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Hi George, The bracket is right behind the hole, but it is cast iron and fairly deep. If I was good enough, I could probably drill a hole in the bracket and tap it for the screw, but I don't trust that I would get it lined up well enough. There is some space right beind the screw hole to allow the screw to poke through. I am thinking of enlarging that space so I can get a nut in there. Thanks, Roger -----Original Message----- >From: George Parker >Sent: Dec 17, 2012 1:05 PM >To: spitfires@autox.team.net >Subject: Re: [Spits] Top Timing cover Screw > >I'm trying to remember the configuration here...B But if I recall correctly, >the mounting bracket in question mounts right behind the stripped out screw >hole??B CanB one long bolt be put through the timing cover, front plate >(where the threads are stripped) and the mounting bracket?B Just a thought... > > >v/r, > >George P. >_______________________________________________ > >Spitfires@autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $11.47 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/elliottr@rmi.net _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Dec 17 19:15:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A830440E64 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:15:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0778A403F3 for ; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 19:14:55 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=M9TSM2VmoqOwZ2F62EbD8Y6NJ5ekvg7Gp6aa9hT26KnSHwO1t0Q8UUL3FvpSr/j/; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.145.250.31] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Tkmgd-0003vR-JB for Spitfires@autox.team.net; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:13:39 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 20:14:24 -0600 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120806 Thunderbird/14.0 To: Spitfires References: <50CF6E13.1000501@charter.net> Subject: Re: [Spits] Spitfires Digest, Vol 6, Issue 103 Timing Cover Screw Stripped Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Thank you everyone that made suggestions on what to do. I decided to start with the Helicoil solution as I had the items necessary and figured if it did not work, I could go to plan B. I put the Helicoil in and it is holding fine. Thanks Everyone! Roger Elliott On 12/17/2012 01:10 PM, Glenn Franco wrote: > Roger > If you buy a helicoil thread repair kit for that size thread you will > find that half the inserts are half the depth of the standard thread > insert. > I think it's 5/16"x20 or 1/4"x 20. > I've run into this problem on my Spit racer and many engines I have > rebuilt in the last couple of years. > It worked on my race car. If their are any threads proud of the > surface, grind them off. > Everything you need to do the thread repair other than the drill is in > the kit. > > Another fix would be to fill the hole with weld, re-drill and tap. > It's a bit difficult to drill the weld however. > > Glenn > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 14:17:46 -0600 > From: Roger Elliott > To: Spitfire list > Subject: [Spits] Top Timing cover Screw > Message-ID: <50CE2C6A.8060805@rmi.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Hi All, > > > I am putting my engine back together. One of the screws at the top > timing cover, is held in by the the front engine plate being threaded. > Right behind that screw is the mounting bracket for the alternator. > > Well, the threads in the engine plate are to stripped to hold the screw, > and I can't put a nut on the backside of the plate as the bracket does > not allow room for one. > > Has anyone else run into this problem? Did you find a solution? > > I have thought about using JB Weld, but I am not sure it is the best > solution. > > Thanks, > Roger Elliott > 80 Spitfire > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 15:31:59 -0600 > From: "Bill Gingerich" > To: "'Roger Elliott'" , "'Spitfire list'" > > Subject: Re: [Spits] Top Timing cover Screw > Message-ID: <000b01cddbd4$c8cd2650$5a6772f0$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I think I put a helicoil in the block on mine. > BillG > > -----Original Message----- > From: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roger Elliott > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 2:18 PM > To: Spitfire list > Subject: [Spits] Top Timing cover Screw > > Hi All, > > > I am putting my engine back together. One of the screws at the top > timing > cover, is held in by the the front engine plate being threaded. > Right behind that screw is the mounting bracket for the alternator. > > Well, the threads in the engine plate are to stripped to hold the > screw, and > I can't put a nut on the backside of the plate as the bracket does not > allow > room for one. > > Has anyone else run into this problem? Did you find a solution? > > I have thought about using JB Weld, but I am not sure it is the best > solution. > > Thanks, > Roger Elliott > 80 Spitfire > _______________________________________________ > > Spitfires@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/elliottr@rmi.net _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive