From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 2 21:36:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3E342DFF for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 21:36:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from nm15-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm15-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.254]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id ABA6042DE0 for ; Wed, 2 Jan 2013 21:31:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.144] by nm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2013 04:29:11 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.160] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2013 04:29:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp217.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jan 2013 04:29:11 -0000 zKbr9q2rIgjbOQi4vsynjtWgRAsXAPyFturLMNjHFLnperNKriYQ3bEwwJ8g TY0b5qakB7rVTzJj.cJrL4DJdc6NbkRs9xduMqm0pkpayfG2I_96XbJz8WFw Mvg2IJf0PaOsQRJ9tQz379WbmcSq9LVPN25uEuurc6DHqJb_8M9J3Ng0VIUY Hk4y.Bto1jR5thwgj1lawpBUMcuwg0yH7PXJKuaCN.cRPRKA72gb76FoXy4U XewZOmZD6x2xoShPu9oh2Tm3FE39C9L24dFTHWuvJoZLsh0n9OqhznrsCNn5 P_BCWK2T0RHFHRCTfnde4s4ulRG9EZX_vo3flkaKcDCAFY43qgBkqv46kU54 49NfbovUlFDY2E3Hg7ehQ.B4KjMzNVmv6KZHG0_T0dBEQVQ0N.3DxHDgnybm GfZEpFKPHDaPsRu4- Received: from Jasper (C_G_Edwards@142.161.100.156 with login) by smtp217.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Jan 2013 20:29:11 -0800 PST From: "Chad G. Edwards" To: Date: Wed, 2 Jan 2013 22:29:10 -0600 thread-index: Ac3pauCizrbVC7HMTeOswm1TpyxTcA== Content-Language: en-ca Subject: [Spits] WTB: Front Spoiler for '79 or '80 Spitfire Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net I'm looking for a front spoiler for a '79 or '80 Spitfire. If you have one for sale, or know anyone that does, please let me know. Thanks. Chad Edwards 1980 Spitfire - "Winfield" _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 3 05:23:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0080842EF7 for ; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 05:23:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6643142E45; Thu, 3 Jan 2013 05:23:45 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=N3cfqPLSq45sIFPJI+3xHoc9xBvOlFd+K7eMLx4Y5Qsw/mG6dlIAOkmXMXKdFTY+; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.145.250.109] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TqjnJ-0002Wj-E7; Thu, 03 Jan 2013 07:21:09 -0500 Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 06:22:13 -0600 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120806 Thunderbird/14.0 To: HANS DEFERRANTE References: <25073082.1357144950168.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <6B4F8D49-A869-487B-817F-C028AC336815@gmail.com> Cc: Triumph List , Spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spits] [TR] Spit.1500 Trunk Light Switch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Hans, I have an 80 Federal model. I think I have a couple of wires in that area that were never hooked up and a couple more that I have because of changes to the ignition. If you can send me a picture, I will see if I can figure out what they go to. Roger On 01/02/2013 11:52 AM, HANS DEFERRANTE wrote: > Thanks Roger, > I found it !. As soon as I read your email I remembered It. Do you by any chance have a post '75 California Spit . There are 2 mysterious wire connectors coming out of the wire harness near those relays/flashers on the firewall in the engine bay. Are they intended to connect to EGR test equipment of sorts? The wiring diagram shows some sort of plug connector that seemed to be missing when I bought it but the wire color code is different. > Happy New Year! > Hans _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 15:18:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15624282C for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 15:18:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81977427FC for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 15:16:00 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=YQkAY9ZE4EsLOYQtYZWSneRRJFwDnyu4RactxQjFpOfZEPHib6M31/3n0Wm7UyIT; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.145.250.109] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TrySo-0003bi-Uy for spitfires@autox.team.net; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 17:13:07 -0500 Date: Sun, 06 Jan 2013 16:14:15 -0600 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120806 Thunderbird/14.0 To: Spitfire list Subject: [Spits] Electronic Tach Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All, I have an 80 Spitfire with an electronic tach. Ever since I have owned it, it takes some time (several seconds) after I start the engine for it to start indicating the rpms. I have always wondered about that but never asked. Is that normal? If so, why would it take time to start indicating rpms? Thanks, Roger _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 21:07:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5283C428AA for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 21:07:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from nm21.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm21.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.222]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E49644258E for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 21:07:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.194] by nm21.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2013 04:04:37 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.68] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2013 04:04:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp105.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2013 04:04:37 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357531477; bh=yLEKqQ5pUsT011pJIbXe+YLSePp77c4l7Eso6ub8RAc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=u4hQGJhogsFhVhJvzgPuSznYUHmokxX0F2IQ7bGL2u4XlGtLtb1KZIUh0jdQ3sWlRtulQrdfReXM76nL3QM3duMOe0U2wIrCYP+mb2IknrlKUYRZ4PPSm732Nt+7hKXjGzJMoXlSUe/RB0p6xMImaBTai6u62N8oBIEu/kx1R3s= n4JmP88UCS5Vq6t86quevIJD5Qfaeno1dTtltc0EC5Mlgl3HJnTJP6eBCUTT 8wOrVkcCu6DP7mckI2.iYESBvg5K08AyUaqoW4jO6OeNaFGHdFmx.98astCX YG_gKbtCdsj.QME04MhABbfv_n.5F91uRa8tZBWv0Pt9Tncu3EMH1X_ByVTE 8uIHpyo48b0Un28LVsjKldrCO4MkT2D_UEzeIHJqaH7uLxrIPUkG3Q5852LN tiSQ4cu0YHrtKyBppSG_EfUKtajwp.WlS2zCRb4Q.s2WGm79oSpp9cKjobQV jKLsI3vLEJ3QByEJuusI.Kkr6AZlIKyLnZEAUdHZ9Apw98.hXz43_7DguEym jrtEkXhvR6KobKyig9D2mIxyaXkw4kjsPKksc_LyiP69jJogQPwwZpflriFb EBGdRsQx8l5Nk0Y0FQlDo.UWJ8CdLQdxhEC6X2n4t7Epy.7iOhMBZf6bJYqq 5VeJwP2nMM.IzJ.JDcubd Received: from MainPC (buss3@72.137.80.164 with login) by smtp105.rog.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 06 Jan 2013 20:04:37 -0800 PST From: "Grant Buss" To: "Roger Elliott" , "Spitfire list" References: <50E9F737.2030806@rmi.net> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 23:04:37 -0500 Subject: Re: [Spits] Electronic Tach Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Hello I have a '78 Spitfire and the tack has been the same way for as long as I have had it (close to 20 years). Now idea why. Grant Buss -----Original Message----- From: Roger Elliott Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 5:14 PM To: Spitfire list Subject: [Spits] Electronic Tach Hi All, I have an 80 Spitfire with an electronic tach. Ever since I have owned it, it takes some time (several seconds) after I start the engine for it to start indicating the rpms. I have always wondered about that but never asked. Is that normal? If so, why would it take time to start indicating rpms? Thanks, Roger _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/buss3@rogers.com _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 6 21:23:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6101742899 for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 21:23:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.149]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA634288B for ; Sun, 6 Jan 2013 21:23:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2013 04:20:35 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.164] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2013 04:20:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1065.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2013 04:20:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 10211 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Jan 2013 04:20:35 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357532435; bh=Rm9CIp03H4HHz3VMFLCgctkppHhB4UYxPrUS1vsXM/g=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UVlyStayhNVwXEZimk0dcRE0ThTtk8Lb2Mq0t0WCBIY4IGI5qgOY46+BEVP41OLlBbhh2Q3+tiQ/WeWU0qxDxKBRIrNqyVFYbdqKexo1sbe7vYxrFJwXV0HKst1ThKXwMg2wodZ+wxLvmzWvzM/ExaP2XP6UON11XX5epK7P0bE= s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PXCLOoAlD+gajBBAEdPWHN8/I8vPRSRp7/NHMuLE4kBMo2lObMSuatcT9vuclAMy5C7V4QPAhm5WoOFvOkecLl/WyYObQeR0qZNFqKIYh0o7OfQP6AT6UKToKQuVVpqvJt73De/XjJcM+e7jpYKOzxZWTkl2gMY6AQZbBxe8Y68=; lra6TZ_I5CFSKOI8MUbXpbXuQwpw0idAKD3nev78UCKGr7krAq9H17Jc2OfC F9yJW5AC5ybvdH5pu2w2VN3A6cysk9YVSfIWoBgJlU9rcfGVxDjelCDMp.5O qocJp.nIF1oZ5J1i9WzUX_5zK7Aqp2c.RZ_i6IJ5BIyedrFXFIwJdJ81SzvA qyQEqcZ2k1Lr2IbLlWLe2ImgtTvax7gSPPoC78WOm_r9L8LLymMG9Rok6v9K rF.ZHGD2sqwztl_67NmDmF4QRNgezK9pX0wtTDwAsSlIAVotKgoD_FVKz7NR dVFhIVFFyevx7HsvWUnVTNThotGJaYKVNW.QuojTjUFbNDaUMDl3wV1fB45n UOWioEk5F2_8wsGtWmlYwGiUUXQDKoGki5BeUSc0jd6a_WNhm30s6mn0B23A _K4GBsftOFr9PbqGWK_4EfHPQo4_5Rc3VTOv5StZ2aS.ZpMhDzgcwXU_pmt5 oH.mujuLsGOplwMrYyWWDFX.8_5IuTAI85kwc3bF5iURgvCC4xh9jQM4yrg_ S0wbuL0gLkwZCw9h5Gt3BFrQWqeWE6k4V0CjKXA-- Received: from [187.192.131.60] by web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 06 Jan 2013 20:20:35 PST RGl0dG8gZm9yIG15IHR3byA3NiBTcGl0cy4KClZpYyBXaGl0bW9yZQoKCsKgCkRvIGl0IHdoaWxlIHlvdSBjYW4hCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIEZyb206IEdyYW50IEJ1c3MgPGJ1c3MzQHJvZ2Vycy5jb20.ClRvOiBSb2dlciBFbGxpb3R0IDxlbGxpb3R0ckBybWkubmV0PjsgU3BpdGZpcmUgbGlzdCA8c3BpdGZpcmVzQGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0PiAKU2VudDogU3VuZGF5LCBKYW51YXJ5IDYsIDIwMTMgMTA6MDQ6MzcgUE0KU3ViamVjdDogUmU6IFtTcGl0c10gRWxlY3Ryb24BMAEBAQE- References: <50E9F737.2030806@rmi.net> <7019B85324FC492CA568857ACC2DF296@MainPC> Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2013 20:20:35 -0800 (PST) From: vicwhit3@rogers.com To: Grant Buss , Roger Elliott , Spitfire list Subject: Re: [Spits] Electronic Tach Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Ditto for my two 76 Spits. Vic Whitmore Do it while you can! ________________________________ From: Grant Buss To: Roger Elliott ; Spitfire list Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 10:04:37 PM Subject: Re: [Spits] Electronic Tach Hello I have a '78 Spitfire and the tack has been the same way for as long as I have had it (close to 20 years). Now idea why. Grant Buss -----Original Message----- From: Roger Elliott Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 5:14 PM To: Spitfire list Subject: [Spits] Electronic Tach Hi All, I have an 80 Spitfire with an electronic tach. Ever since I have owned it, it takes some time (several seconds) after I start the engine for it to start indicating the rpms. I have always wondered about that but never asked. Is that normal? If so, why would it take time to start indicating rpms? Thanks, Roger _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/buss3@rogers.com _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/vicwhit3@rogers.com _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 7 03:23:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B7E4428F7 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 03:23:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.195]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C6040E54 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 03:19:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from [77.238.189.54] by nm13.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2013 10:16:15 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.253] by tm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2013 10:16:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1018.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2013 10:16:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 3027 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Jan 2013 10:16:15 -0000 s=s1024; t=1357553775; bh=FVF1H176qFjFsmxzxkON/TcmN/A7yhH+HDsYywPLiP0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=h+zcUCK82kBPevIp6iYAZvmtYXLBlV7aHZ2T3pppTcsUjlfEtoiTm79hh/sJY55ZwZ+U4VIDGFrQE0Ul6voq+ZtIxYDFkbV01g4YIA3yPlh54mBd/YXjX22zv0kX6FFIwpGKwY17cXhLpKTXggApzxQKwEm0UsDrXwdCm6drCIo= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=okj/7WELtlnoR0lplRCirk2bcvIBGgvaOnwFaFgrb+vZqjCILnOMt4Ct/LvZglj2jhiDDKz3DwtL+OWvuXy81C15IR3kKHXg4UnDzoAmeHkyvCmunB/jz9bCoLf5//aP/UCY4WheA2BnrRyFAHw8whQ3AQylUaxUe7+tXETdhAY=; xdzcG3oCODcHdv5KtXIVnDWEzPxTlD.78Fr1jl6vny9bLKTUAcreo1Cetmkn THKY_7fcuArm6EJSg6Hr.hx1MigvjmkQqTeGqJQq7EmMERautSiNv2MQMMXa R2nugtPFH9TQj4R6B12vruNTiANxqfhrIfuc1gqGzJb4AHHupBNA0r9wv_2U qjM2BatMed0RuBPxS86kLtFeGuHwJBB9Qbz4dUlAxUvKVeXuCSrFcSPHFDFi xQ8ObVSj4lKmeoapOZf_KnQnRIXSUvgDS.gjELrn0x5iUbCK7G1gWN2e_QSm _9mpW8mya5bri.7H5XBvM_dIoaxOaAEPdB0VIDO.Cn2twHiwHIVq3x_M56PX 73PkEnLPS6xO8fUMnESFrQKzPZ_gXi.yo7kjxj8n3FeZXz4hb6WNwSt00mxH UIn1TgNuJ80o991Re2Iloib5mZToqk_b6n4MGesDsc9wS8DAi.G0VAMrvjhR tMXk- Received: from [90.199.100.76] by web171902.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 10:16:15 GMT VGhpcyBjb25kaXRpb24gaXMgd2VsbC1rbm93biBvbiB0aGUgZWFzdGVybiBzaWRlIG9mIHRoZSBwb25kIGFuZCBpbiBTdGFuZGFyZC1Ucml1bXBoIHBhcmxhbmNlIG9mIHRoZSBkYXkgY29tZXMgaW50byB0aGUgY2F0ZWdvcnkgb2YgImFuIGknZXJlbnQgKGluaGVyZW50KSBmYXVsdCIgSSd2ZSBlbmNvdW50ZXJlZCB0aGlzIGNvbmRpdGlvbiBvbiBtYW55IGxhdGVyIFNwaXRmaXJlcywgaW5jbHVkaW5nIG9uZSB0aGF0IHdhcyB1bmRlciBteSBjYXJlIGZvciBzb21lIDE4IG1vbnRocy4gQSBmaXJtIGtub2NrIG8BMAEBAQE- References: <50E9F737.2030806@rmi.net> <7019B85324FC492CA568857ACC2DF296@MainPC> Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2013 10:16:15 +0000 (GMT) From: John Macartney To: Grant Buss , Roger Elliott , Spitfire list , Triumph List Subject: Re: [Spits] Electronic Tach Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net This condition is well-known on the eastern side of the pond and in Standard-Triumph parlance of the day comes into the category of "an i'erent (inherent) fault" I've encountered this condition on many later Spitfires, including one that was under my care for some 18 months. A firm knock on the instrument glass is all that's required to make it work. One surely doesn't expect the rev counter to work well for ever, does one? Jonmac ________________________________ From: Grant Buss To: Roger Elliott ; Spitfire list Sent: Monday, 7 January 2013, 4:04 Subject: Re: [Spits] Electronic Tach >Hello >I have a '78 Spitfire and the tack has been the same way for as long as I have had it (close to 20 years). >Now idea why. >Grant Buss > >-----Original Message----- From: Roger Elliott >Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 5:14 PM >To: Spitfire list >Subject: [Spits] Electronic Tach > >Hi All, > >I have an 80 Spitfire with an electronic tach. Ever since I have owned >it, it takes some time (several seconds) after I start the engine for >it to start indicating the rpms. > >I have always wondered about that but never asked. Is that normal? If >so, why would it take time to start indicating rpms? > >Thanks, >Roger >_______________________________________________ > >Spitfires@autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $11.47 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/buss3@rogers.com _______________________________________________ > >Spitfires@autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $11.47 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 7 17:32:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5488428C3 for ; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 17:32:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F8984253B; Mon, 7 Jan 2013 17:32:32 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=WEyCu1eAaIh0bvgP0/LXWDWxnU5QfyA+bKla1VEuAsZ4jcU6MkUmc31gR1mrAdDv; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:X-Antivirus-Status:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from user-0c93ujd.cable.mindspring.com ([24.145.250.109] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TsN4Q-0007PT-CT; Mon, 07 Jan 2013 19:29:34 -0500 Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2013 18:29:33 -0600 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 To: Spitfire list , Triumph List References: <50E9F737.2030806@rmi.net> <7019B85324FC492CA568857ACC2DF296@MainPC> <1357553775.2934.YahooMailNeo@web171902.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Spits] Electronic Tach Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Everyone! The consensus is that it is normal or at least not unusual, as I suspected. I haven't worried about it, because it always starts up rather soon. But I was curious if it was just mine. Thanks, Roger On 1/7/2013 4:16 AM, John Macartney wrote: > This condition is well-known on the eastern side of the pond and in > Standard-Triumph parlance of the day comes into the category of "an > i'erent (inherent) fault" I've encountered this condition on many > later Spitfires, including one that was under my care for some 18 > months. A firm knock on the instrument glass is all that's required to > make it work. One surely doesn't expect the rev counter to work well > for ever, does one? > Jonmac*From:* Grant Buss > ** > Hello > I have a '78 Spitfire and the tack has been the same way for as long > as I have had it (close to 20 years). > Now idea why. > Grant Buss _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 14:18:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F3E40E41 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:18:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6189440525; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:18:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130111211454.DRYV6169.mta11.charter.net@imp11>; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:14:54 -0500 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([24.231.194.49]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id mlEs1k00V14R4eo05lEtZV; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:14:53 -0500 a=pqI+vdes0DpKFPsz35vwQA==:17 a=jl2ymW9NZSsA:10 a=FuByY_eCehgA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=y3hrafuoQ9sA:10 a=c29MJClN5ioLpHyBoi8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=pqI+vdes0DpKFPsz35vwQA==:117 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:14:42 -0500 From: Glenn Franco User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: Friends of triumph , 6pack@autox.team.net, spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] County Pistons Quality Control Issue Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net FYI I am in the midst of a TR6 Rebuild with an engine that is .020" overbored. While fitting up the pistons and checking clearances everything checked out and the bore was concentric and to specs. With the piston installed in the bore I noticed increased drag with #1 piston installed. With rings gaps, skirt clearance correct I pulled the piston and didn't see any issues. Further inspection showed that the piston was cocked in the bore and had score marks on the bottom of one skirt with the same wear just below the oil ring on the other side. After inspecting it with the machine shop we noticed that the ring grooves were not fully machined on one side of the piston. The rings would not move far enough in the groove and was proud of the surface causing the piston to cock in the bore. We collectively have not seen this before and have a new set of AE pistons not County on the way. Having spent many years in Automotive Engineering at one of the former Big Three, these events are usually not one of's. There likely are many more out there that ran down the line in the same batch at the same time before it was caught. These are new County Piston sets (I think made in Israel now). I would inspect their parts very closely before you install them. I also noticed machine chips in the machined groove of their Tri-Metal Main Bearings (Israel). The chips were in the machined groove and were plated over with the babbit and copper. I have had very good experiences with their parts in the past. Just thought I would provide a heads up. Glenn _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 11 14:36:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3508040E83 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:36:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f52.google.com (mail-vb0-f52.google.com [209.85.212.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D9340067 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:36:22 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vb0-f52.google.com with SMTP id ez10so1852376vbb.25 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 13:33:05 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=TmoJG+2b06NOfdmUDnQFkSlCH3MFJgrwsh+7vauJjlo=; b=MYsmuMpij5bKIaUZqcmvnQaNsPqSdy6L5OtpIchHFe2P7H7prxt70SV/iZXZQk7i6G 2hB59Yrtu6ahn1wUpr6cM4mvf59u3DdEy8dQrOKP858Skk2ilXWNGGhYO7kZ9NEwDDM6 cMr0jAOywqSY1Es+uRocwVih0ZB97eW9FPXr0NPu98ZU0LcsLjM1oFZj8p6bQr14SzOl Sb3FpMhvM8q7eSt8nXjhxN/zby6hEij2aQM4vPVd6lIId4lRrfAsA71WHk6M+GfksLKF F42Pdkp8zE07VUpMiMS0FtvTxJTHpsredrOYetjm3n3VObDaGqjsqQO/fcqLUxbi+cak Jd4A== Received: by 10.58.118.115 with SMTP id kl19mr81229330veb.6.1357939985439; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 13:33:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.64.15 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jan 2013 13:33:05 -0800 (PST) References: <50F080C2.1080007@charter.net> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 16:33:05 -0500 From: Doug Braun To: Glenn Franco Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net, Friends of triumph Subject: Re: [Spits] County Pistons Quality Control Issue Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Another horror story: A while back I replaced my Spit's rocker arm shaft with the part that most vendors sold. I believe it was "County" branded, and it was made in India. I went to adjust the valves a few days later, and I noticed that the front four rocker arms seemed rather oil-starved. When I ran the engine with the rocker arm cover off, I could see that only the rear four rocker arms were getting lubricated. It turned out that the shaft was not completely hollow: They had rifle-drilled it inwards from each end, but they did not drill deep enough, and the two holes did not meet up in the center. Doug On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Glenn Franco wrote: > FYI > I am in the midst of a TR6 Rebuild with an engine that is .020" overbored. > While fitting up the pistons and checking clearances everything checked > out and the bore was concentric and to specs. > With the piston installed in the bore I noticed increased drag with #1 > piston installed. > With rings gaps, skirt clearance correct I pulled the piston and didn't > see any issues. > Further inspection showed that the piston was cocked in the bore and had > score marks on the bottom of one skirt with the same wear just below the > oil ring on the other side. > After inspecting it with the machine shop we noticed that the ring grooves > were not fully machined on one side of the piston. > The rings would not move far enough in the groove and was proud of the > surface causing the piston to cock in the bore. > We collectively have not seen this before and have a new set of AE pistons > not County on the way. > > Having spent many years in Automotive Engineering at one of the former Big > Three, these events are usually not one of's. > There likely are many more out there that ran down the line in the same > batch at the same time before it was caught. > > These are new County Piston sets (I think made in Israel now). > I would inspect their parts very closely before you install them. > > I also noticed machine chips in the machined groove of their Tri-Metal > Main Bearings (Israel). > The chips were in the machined groove and were plated over with the babbit > and copper. > > I have had very good experiences with their parts in the past. > Just thought I would provide a heads up. > > Glenn > ______________________________**_________________ > > Spitfires@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spitfires/doug@**dougbraun.com _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 18:06:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86B774297C for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:06:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from xsmtp10.mail2web.com (xsmtp10.mail2web.com [168.144.250.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286B0427E0; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:06:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.5.41.10] (helo=M2W110.mail2web.com) by xsmtp10.mail2web.com with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Tvdsh-0005JL-89; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:03:00 -0500 From: "v6spitfireguy@cox.net" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:03:53 -0500 by=xsmtp10.mail2web.com ident= envfrom=v6spitfireguy@cox.net intl=1 id=1Tvdsh-0005JL-89 auth= msa=0 ] by=xsmtp10.mail2web.com ident= envfrom=v6spitfireguy@cox.net intl=1 id=1Tvdsh-0005JL-89 auth= msa=0 ] Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] Koni Shock Dilema Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net I was making a CV_Joint conversion on my GT6+ rear ended Spitfire, to replace the TR6 axle setup I have in there now, when I noticed that the rear shocks are different. (funny that I never noticed before...) These have been on the car for probably 25 years or more, and I was painting them to spruce them up a bit, but I digress. What I noticed was that the upper welded cover on the drivers side was shorter (you can see about an inch of shaft when fully extended). The other side when fully extended has no visible shaft at all I.E. the cover completely covers the lower tube (which seems better in that nothing could fly up and damage the shaft or seals). They are both Konis, and the travel fully extended is the same (haven't checked the fully compressed condition). They were purchased new as a set, front and rear,(from one of the big three) Any ideas...I don't think that the one one the drivers side could be a spitfire, since I believe that the travel is not the same and I would think that they would be shorter but I don't have anything to check it with - fully extended they measure 13 and 13/16ths the lower tube is 7 inches on all the shocks, the upper tube on the long one is around 5 inches while the tube on the "short "one is 4 inches Both of the ones on my 70 GT6+ are like the long one... -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com  Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft. Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 16 18:35:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4C0642A2C for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:35:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f51.google.com (mail-vb0-f51.google.com [209.85.212.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FCB4282F for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 18:35:48 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id fq11so844524vbb.38 for ; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:32:05 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=n+uYoVeJ/rL6d0DkIsnhL0LehDWSJhV1k7/LodEtJIQ=; b=VtzvUeyqoeE717BaZ5dONVNH1rmx6k9rL4hOTf2prl5Jinrdi6dF1zSD6Q0Co/2+nb SN3L/Z/x7KKUtcHNjqc5TlctNInHaX/wsRA7URSki8tcImp3jMgmKRVYVoR9gZnLN23V 9U/wlNHCYikGks/fojFBcWf4uGnmkguiqxsa9VX/0F3B3jD5fTbk1I5y/gB9iix+sQs4 7sMvV9YPM/BKkEBVo2VqDlcl+xpU92Heaax1Pu0UJUc5zo2jJMkxXd2KI6k8MIh2cHcb X23WOzR/nza1HkibkIndKCoCR/6+S1VqTZFMkExeQFBlU4j9Az4gldjrqMwIsyLcycfZ +JdA== dn9mr3129335vdb.88.1358386325308; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:32:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.64.15 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Jan 2013 17:32:05 -0800 (PST) References: <380-2201314171353695@M2W110.mail2web.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2013 20:32:05 -0500 From: Doug Braun To: v6spitfireguy@cox.net Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spits] Koni Shock Dilema Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Just wondering: What are the relative merits of the CV joint vs. rotoflex vs. TR6 rear suspensions? Is your setup on an original Spitfire chassis, or does the car have a GT6 chassis? Thanks, Doug On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 8:03 PM, v6spitfireguy@cox.net < v6spitfireguy@cox.net> wrote: > I was making a CV_Joint conversion on my GT6+ rear ended Spitfire, to > replace the TR6 axle setup I have in there now, when I noticed that the > rear shocks are different. (funny that I never noticed before...) _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 13:48:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CEC242278 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:48:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from xsmtp10.mail2web.com (xsmtp30.mail2web.com [168.144.250.249]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C0940517; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 13:43:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from [10.5.41.19] (helo=M2W119.mail2web.com) by xsmtp10.mail2web.com with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1TzvTf-0005UP-9x; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:38:56 -0500 From: "v6spitfireguy@cox.net" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:39:47 -0500 Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] Rear GT6+ steel brake line needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net I'm looking for the steel brake lines, specifically for the GT6+ (for those who need numbers, 309710 and 11), that run from the rear flex hose to the slave cylinder. For those of you in the know,they are bent like a pretzel to clear the upright, Rotoflex etc. As many of the parts specific to the GT6+ are made of unobtainium, as these appear to be, I was wondering if possibly the TR6 rear lines could be used. If the length is right I could bend them to suit my application. What I need is a line that is 13 and 1/2 inches long (measured straight), with a long male 3/8 flare fitting at one end, to mate with the slave cylinder, and a 3/8ths female flare nut, to mate with the flex hose at the other. It appears that the TR6 uses something similar at the rear but I do not have on hand any to measure it. I "could" probably flare my own, but I would rather have them already done as bending the line would be relatively easy - and I hate to order one just to find out it won't work - Anybody have a TR6 rear one the bench, or in their spare parts box that they could measure? 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Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 16:21:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22313406AE for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:21:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65AEF40653 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:15:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3785A0AC0 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:12:55 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:12:55 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15.1 To: Spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] Vicky Brit steering rack? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone have any experience with the quick ratio steering rack V-B offers? mjb. _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 28 20:25:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C7E42280 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:25:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2937340546 for ; Mon, 28 Jan 2013 20:24:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta16.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.88]) by qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tfF31k0061uE5Es5AfLD7k; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:20:13 +0000 Received: from DanParrott9100 ([69.136.42.31]) by omta16.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tfLC1k00G0gLkkt3cfLC4b; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 03:20:13 +0000 From: "Daniel Parrott" To: "'Mark J Bradakis'" , References: <510705F7.9080603@bradakis.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 22:20:16 -0500 Thread-Index: AQIuulFE7/DElRKRl0FG3acW2JzgkJeeKZ3Q Content-Language: en-us s=q20121106; t=1359429613; bh=cu3/YnB3xH998KTgP7lpONXp00xA3+l140q3evg0ua0=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=MJnbm+RCizTVxxB/9AkPTahMHnCXvmPPf9mxqTE6adVhBPK04xBTbxRrCk7hfUY42 EBIoenS1hYd79SQf04jtWWSRM6a0hY9DBLP7GbU1p2mZcpa7XSWKL42USqXb3hhj6a PXA+Z8DKuerNbqWFQV1Zhj3FxbW5EKpW7jiGMUsLrbPQ8LVW7R21ynAufRX9uZjcTV 80Z9BK38GjEvYF6GhtvIGMR47aKxn/ReevorXLgr+KI+qGottixaduwwQjMsvkyI7n SeToPjdNYLXsa/jvBfPwpNlxuC35A1wN5vvCkUQuv7ShH2CiqmayF3VLh0ghmZAJ2K BGWiv74ruibkg== Subject: Re: [Spits] Vicky Brit steering rack? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Yes. I had one for ten years. Done some Auto crossing and a couple of Funkhanas with no problems (no wins, either). Dan Parrott Savannah, Georgia 1980 Triumph Spitfire "PJ", AKA "Rat" 1973/1978 Spit Six "Joseph" 1957 Chevy Belair "Mayflower" -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 6:13 PM To: Spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] Vicky Brit steering rack? Anyone have any experience with the quick ratio steering rack V-B offers? mjb. _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/parrotthead01@comcast.net _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 29 13:18:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4508F427D6 for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:18:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail.whidbey.net (mailout.whidbey.net [209.166.65.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B222C424BA for ; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 13:10:13 -0700 (MST) d=whidbey.net; s=mail; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Subject:To:From:Message-ID; bh=ZH7/lmXXxUhrUNmbTK59a7E6mFFhPDYAqEfs2Puaqgk=; b=Ff49tLapkXYQcj3FD787qKMdvjpAziwiXpEARn0JZBNh4GlSILvY0StVp8cy5VGg7iVgU0wYSw9MWoLeyao9TY4dWVt0wwqQr4Nhs+WH7XRMZn2BLhu8OxuCwBjyYcWAwbXT3lxNUGPBSZ/LvP2SccHvUR9h4Zxap5vQDRcWINo=; Received: from [66.165.20.151] (helo=work) by mail.whidbey.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1U0HQt-0005g6-Bq for spitfires@autox.team.net; Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:05:27 -0800 From: "Don Boyd" To: Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:05:15 -0800 Organization: Mecanical Services Subject: Re: [Spits] Rear GT6+ steel brake line needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net This line is easily made if you have the right equipment. Use "cunifer" (copper/nickel) line, and it will never rust , and is much easier to work than the steel stuff. Don't use stainless. It's too hard to work, flare , and it's brittle. Don't use an old steel line. There is a reason Volvo, BMW, and Porsche all use cunifer. If you know exactly what you need, I can make it up for you. I have some of the various brit fittings, the hydraulic presses for the flares, and new cunifer line. It will cost about $20. Sorry, this is how I make a living, so...... You could harvest cunifer line off of a wrecked Volvo and use your ends. They have used it since at least 1977. (I'm a Volvo/BMW mechanic) E-mail me privately if you want to pursue. Don Boyd Mechanical Services 5034 Mutiny Bay Rd. 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