From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 9 06:02:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0490240528 for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 06:02:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f171.google.com (mail-ob0-f171.google.com [209.85.214.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34F94044C for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 06:02:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f171.google.com with SMTP id dn14so6937252obc.30 for ; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 05:02:24 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=v0Iqox6VZtXqe7iNrSz47Nki8ru3eR+UqNbFxWDjaw0=; b=AkoUEHqG2pEHOqxZ2T2O/5BeLIfKuYlw9EjI7Cn/FIvas8LT07r0pBe+bOF05IMXSG FKPgDRiT5bVr4Z6Q6rVzR2iW07+JccJxD+/F5xrTtkhhL7r5Ge2A8aUyHzRXS1astsF9 fmCaFc/RBIuHGioJHFwUv1VMS+BuHAdLMLMbrZarTND/N/LHBPYusGUQRjHDYpJM6zIn SBjoeYWiPY6C+4DbFPnzQXGY+KRteSyF6fUK1nDM/koPpyrv50/Gd9ZS5eCm3QKSJT6n Y2yokz3Ynns/gpaP5XmAeOpaQkFo75GzPw0ISrJn428ojyt37o08SSfUTm9F78MdruSL WwVQ== py7mr23904028obc.92.1373371344064; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 05:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.149.67 with HTTP; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 05:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2013 08:02:24 -0400 From: Doug Braun To: Spitfire Group Subject: [Spits] Interesting Spitfire Derivative Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Check out picture #8 in this slide show. It's a"Shellette", designed bu Michelotti. http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2013/07/07/automobiles/collectibles/07beach-slides.html?smid=pl-share Doug _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 9 10:02:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E754042C for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:02:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from vms173025pub.verizon.net (vms173025pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765F44039F for ; Tue, 9 Jul 2013 10:02:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.9] ([unknown] [71.171.119.115]) by vms173025.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MPO0043AF7U16P0@vms173025.mailsrvcs.net> for spitfires@autox.team.net; Tue, 09 Jul 2013 11:02:19 -0500 (CDT) References: From: Jason Wolff Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 12:02:18 -0400 To: Doug Braun Cc: Spitfire Group Subject: [Spits] Spitfire coco mats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net I have a set of unused black with red coco mats I'd like to sell. I'm looking for $50 plus shipping (they cost over $100 new) but am open to offers. Thanks, _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 12 16:55:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73FFF403D3 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 16:55:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F0E4009B; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 16:55:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88DBA18FB; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 16:55:38 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 16:55:38 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: Triumphs , Spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] Posting notes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net A member of another list sent out a test message. I informed the fellow he failed the test, and in order to send another test message he had to use the donate link to send me his life savings. Oh well, a guy can dream. But seriously, I did take the time to update some info, here's the message: Well shucks. Just checked Paypal, no one sent me their life savings yet, and it has already been nearly two days - slackers! Guess I won't be packing for that early retirement in Belize just yet. Seriously, the test message did prompt me to update the notes about postings to the list. I am the worst slacker of all when it comes to Team.Net updates. So take a moment if you are having issues with your messages getting sent out to look at http://www.team.net/posting.html If your problem isn't addressed there, let me know and I'll look into it and update the file. Thanks, mjb. _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 12 18:49:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24F440415 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 18:49:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B5B40321; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 18:49:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBDEA13FF; Fri, 12 Jul 2013 18:49:40 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2013 18:49:39 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: Triumphs , Spitfires@autox.team.net References: <51E0896A.3030701@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [Spits] Posting notes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Scott Hall wrote: > > Belize? > > I was listening to this yesterday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B49ZY0lvXrQ Besides, if I went to Costa Rica, Rush Limbaugh might move in next door! mjb. _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 16 17:54:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78974273A for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:54:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5522C40396 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 17:53:33 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=H+hgUzTjQtLhPgXGnyzBNYpQzzZlTrC3t7ff5XCEe14+Mj/DEtBvFMF+qjpB7+Xb; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Antivirus-Status:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from user-0c93ujd.cable.mindspring.com ([24.145.250.109] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1UzF3k-0003rg-4l for Spitfires@autox.team.net; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 19:53:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 18:53:37 -0500 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: Spitfires Subject: [Spits] GT6 Head Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I have a 68 GT6 Mark 1 with the stepped head. I see references to Early GT6 Mark 1 heads, at the various parts houses. Is there a difference in some of the stepped heads or do the late GT6 Mark 1s have the latter full width heads that came on the GT6+? Thanks, Roger Elliott _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 17 09:00:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F4C04273F for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:00:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1BDF40046 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 08:56:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id wo10so2411475obc.3 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 07:56:58 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :x-gm-message-state; bh=rZWGCQSafXe+9+v7Be7I32gVH/cB45z4uFyn7s7MA0g=; b=W9kotR1MqPWcc/m0RHsHWilzc3Zh89B4qZYC3PicOqHRNBEAlJfUnMVsJu5OneyFY3 llcdNxjEV1vkqveQxKiNqWincodgBMIn0Ua/kZ62xkD4vX6mS3YHmjFpEqK0JJ+Mc2o1 D4accScw9n5T09D7N0g3n83ACvNAwfLURLLT3gajy6ZB/WLAmxHWEjF0KAHWyaSaC+gI WtnnQgZtneL2JTb6xeDehk2K48MAVcIJ2CifloKhyQMnF5AggZgJwYaNZC6BIXq30q3/ 1QcVbAgb9ITIZ/0JEqX3V8IJFcKvaFfkeLpG87fLGh35na05/DzXCj3fZwam6SAb2y46 IReA== en10mr8515498oeb.85.1374073018251; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 07:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.149.67 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Jul 2013 07:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 10:56:58 -0400 From: Doug Braun To: Spitfire Group Subject: [Spits] Guage is back! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net >From Mazda's web site for the Miata: "Contoured IP guage hood with dark gray meter rings" http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/configEntryPoint.action?vehicleCode=MX5&modelYear=2013 Doug _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 27 22:02:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA3940513 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 22:02:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f177.google.com (mail-ob0-f177.google.com [209.85.214.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E011940395 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 22:02:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f177.google.com with SMTP id f8so1600189obp.8 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:02:13 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=subject:from:content-type:x-mailer:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=olUvq3XhlksVikgJO8769vL2z5c0vJkat32FNJ4p72Q=; b=OY6WzpVjTF1Zx/jyAvupL8izdZpuxZHxZpv170Zg40vD7zy4o91TOgHgUB8/ODl9iK zxl3vD39cOXzn6M709w7Mg5/amJd0eJBGCGBEgTVlIgNKI7/bs8++UbZ371CQqRpFJHn NxGY17ijdcCoOJdxCvCRlqFMEIimMfzBre0SU+3MyHIKz9574QYv+EDp9eELHKvYdaCv XsJmF5rvmhHXgHFLV3V1Km66oQMgV4EkazlWgCc/yHVLh9cARf7HFmigszOMjaUMIYSf +ZBSdxjZP6hG2ut8tCJgdqANBShlAwGx7iqq5VYrcYCSloXUorTWzJLKZe2Q74LL8Jrm JpxA== d2mr48443862obp.28.1374984132913; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:02:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.16] (108-254-212-29.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. [108.254.212.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h3sm33820507oeo.2.2013.07.27.21.02.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:02:12 -0700 (PDT) From: HANS DEFERRANTE Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:02:10 -0700 To: "spitfires@autox.team.net" Subject: [Spits] Spit clutch adjustment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net The clutch on my 76 spit suddenly fails to disengage when hot. The shop manual does not mention any adjustment procedure. Does that mean either air in the hydraulics or worn clutch bearing? _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 27 23:54:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 647CD403E6 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 23:54:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (fed1rmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DEC40413 for ; Sat, 27 Jul 2013 23:54:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo109 ([68.230.241.158]) by fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130728055431.BMKQ3846.fed1rmfepo203.cox.net@fed1rmimpo109> for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:54:31 -0400 Received: from Vista ([68.99.82.107]) by fed1rmimpo109 with cox id 5huX1m0082Jvvxw01huXdM; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:54:31 -0400 a=BrgYjPiL4d2cFgrlBXpIzQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=F3JkqHvoZj0A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=MEvGf43_JJNl4wzmn1AA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=BrgYjPiL4d2cFgrlBXpIzQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'HANS DEFERRANTE'" , References: <5g2Y1m01E0koGQ601g2ZWb> Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 22:54:54 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6LR0qM/j3I5VufSJKA4zfra7DVdwAD3+eg Subject: Re: [Spits] Spit clutch adjustment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net You night have worn thrust washers allowing the crank to float rather than release the clutch. Check the end float by pushing back on the crank pulley nut and then measure how far it travels when the clutch is depressed. Joe -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of HANS DEFERRANTE Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 9:02 PM To: spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] Spit clutch adjustment The clutch on my 76 spit suddenly fails to disengage when hot. The shop manual does not mention any adjustment procedure. Does that mean either air in the hydraulics or worn clutch bearing? _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 28 20:12:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88AC640690 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:12:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f47.google.com (mail-qa0-f47.google.com [209.85.216.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6364053E for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:10:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id o19so1396645qap.6 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:10:30 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:content-language :thread-index; bh=dG/Ecz3kAIyAhzGHPdP5dS0I1sylVrBTjb3fFu0sKds=; b=rzKuq3VwFEnIhAXT6AJI77k9G7A5SwJTKU8FnEtdnKvrrLamSM7cYLQMLhjXXdlg/h QOnMWUmRsDiw7Uljpsrib3wqissjcOil1Q6o5vVcgdWPcG3Niql1RhvxvPUQFVqZO2F7 5F4tqGMxmp4w689PiFytNC2bmEcSwpMU7+enloFxR+dmAPJR26UzcNtFyLj+HI8yj7jV OhjOvzuKBzlM3srROi1H+kKhoILKoMuwaVe171t/Ng5NiArl55YS9sDbCQ0X6ukDcWXg G8+PESl7GM+1Bf3txTwh/JayTWqCAoyZV4f8dJ1lqjNpjUHBHH+LO1nso9G72ZSd+umP KiNw== c9mr66545901qel.19.1375063830114; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Quad3400 (cpe-67-240-51-24.nycap.res.rr.com. [67.240.51.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id c4sm19202690qad.0.2013.07.28.19.10.28 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:10:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "Clark W. Nicholls" To: "'HANS DEFERRANTE'" , References: Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:10:23 -0400 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: Ac6LR1EbcgvjSpNRSVKiOJoFuGsm9AAuV+LQ Subject: Re: [Spits] Spit clutch adjustment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net I suggest it may be the throw out bearing arm hinge pin fell out... Clark Clark W. Nicholls 1974 Spitfire (FM14571U) www.botchagaloop.net for old racing photos "Reality, it's not what you think." -----Original Message----- From: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of HANS DEFERRANTE Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2013 12:02 AM To: spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: [Spits] Spit clutch adjustment The clutch on my 76 spit suddenly fails to disengage when hot. The shop manual does not mention any adjustment procedure. Does that mean either air in the hydraulics or worn clutch bearing? _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/cwnfot@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 28 20:21:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B16406A7 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:21:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from dfn.com (mail.dfn.com [74.116.128.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 551D44053E for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:21:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] [216.223.232.123] by dfn.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-12.3.0.100) id c08e000a6d32046d; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:21:21 -0600 Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:21:24 -0600 From: Michael Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: "Clark W. Nicholls" References: <005401ce8c00$c9c51c70$5d4f5550$@com> Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spits] Spit clutch adjustment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net On 7/28/2013 8:10 PM, Clark W. Nicholls wrote: > I suggest it may be the throw out bearing arm hinge pin fell out... > > > Seems to me that would present a problem cold and hot, and the original poster described the problem as when hot. When the pivot point on my GT6's clutch arm wore completely through, it didn't work _at all_. :) Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 28 20:30:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0D2406A9 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:30:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f176.google.com (mail-ob0-f176.google.com [209.85.214.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5C44055B for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 20:30:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f176.google.com with SMTP id v19so8300357obq.35 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:30:37 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=A+hym+qKy651DXsK9HGEIZdeJt0p+fmN3onTtCP6Y+o=; b=nkVTw9BWo0+dzOPHRaznsWTaWyTk3bpQGh6mydqZyDKvMgxg8ovFhRhaRDu7WnS3kW 8cFCil8ZgszLVWePHrllYwUDZbDVDu3kGGtYINyHzv7u7NuIfcDhmo2G8aRbElW5iOBU x6ogsWAEsWX9cSNOvDt3lOeXY8qw+Yqa/wqlliUn1AMsgLE+d6XW8f7LfxxSUBgNPtd/ f43Ee41VW/q8DLFQl9QgydzZZhNEDVw0A6YEV39h8jEPfZX+q/f54lSI01VHk1ecoYkg 04ak8U3B1f2Bqqw3pBByUpWTEC1kesq0za+DPPfRgFDlySs934+xZ8MzIQSsRKZPbFC5 k+dw== nl10mr49506571obb.41.1375065037480; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:30:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.149.67 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Jul 2013 19:30:37 -0700 (PDT) References: <005401ce8c00$c9c51c70$5d4f5550$@com> <51F5D1A4.40601@dfn.com> Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 22:30:37 -0400 From: Doug Braun To: Spitfire Group Subject: Re: [Spits] Spit clutch adjustment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net If air has somehow gotten into the clutch hydraulic system, you can be sure that fluid has gotten OUT. Look for signs of leakage on the garage floor or where the clutch pedal linkage is. If there is not an obvious, messy leak, I bet it is a problem with the linkage inside the bellhousing. Doug On Sun, Jul 28, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Michael Porter wrote: > On 7/28/2013 8:10 PM, Clark W. Nicholls wrote: > >> I suggest it may be the throw out bearing arm hinge pin fell out... >> >> >> >> > Seems to me that would present a problem cold and hot, and the original > poster described the problem as when hot. > > When the pivot point on my GT6's clutch arm wore completely through, it > didn't work _at all_. :) > > > Cheers. > > -- > > > Michael Porter > Roswell, NM > > > Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking > distance.... > > ______________________________**_________________ > > Spitfires@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spitfires/doug@**dougbraun.com _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 29 12:24:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 135D840513 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:24:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo101.cox.net (fed1rmfepo101.cox.net [68.230.241.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30BAE4006F for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:18:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo306 ([68.230.241.174]) by fed1rmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130729181833.USBD3892.fed1rmfepo101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo306> for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:18:33 -0400 Received: from Vista ([68.99.82.107]) by fed1rmimpo306 with cox id 6JJZ1m00D2Jvvxw01JJZGx; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:18:33 -0400 a=BrgYjPiL4d2cFgrlBXpIzQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=F3JkqHvoZj0A:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=XGxxlNbF_m3PoYa3ArgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=6KFdhG_8NR4lJsy6:21 a=-AZAVATLDzI0L9f_:21 a=BrgYjPiL4d2cFgrlBXpIzQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'HANS DEFERRANTE'" , References: <5g2Y1m01E0koGQ601g2ZWb> <1068689200B3407CB731BDFD4A722490@Vista> <6J5a1m02T3l2LHM01J5ybg> Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 11:18:36 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac6Mhkfk0D8f4PG/TIebVGVPk147+wAAWubQ Subject: Re: [Spits] Spit clutch adjustment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net You shouldn't have to worry about keeping the clutch pedal pushed in. By pushing it all the way to the floor, the crankshaft will be pushed to its maximum forward position. Releasing the pedal won't change that. So you can use that crank position as the starting point and measure how far back it will go when you push on the crank pulley. That will measure the end float. Joe -----Original Message----- From: HANS DEFERRANTE [mailto:junedefer@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 11:06 AM To: Joe Curry; spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spits] Spit clutch adjustment Thanks Joe, That makes a lot of sense. Problem is, how to keep the clutch disengaged while checking the end float? Although slave and master cylinders look OK it may still be a hydraulic problem. Does someone out there have some nifty simple idea to keep the clutch disengaged, with the SC removed, while checking end float? Hans 61 TR3A 76 Spit On Jul 27, 2013, at 10:54 PM, Joe Curry wrote: > You night have worn thrust washers allowing the crank to float rather than > release the clutch. Check the end float by pushing back on the crank pulley > nut and then measure how far it travels when the clutch is depressed. > > Joe > > -----Original Message----- > From: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of HANS DEFERRANTE > Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 9:02 PM > To: spitfires@autox.team.net > Subject: [Spits] Spit clutch adjustment > > The clutch on my 76 spit suddenly fails to disengage when hot. The shop > manual does not mention any adjustment procedure. Does that mean either air > in the hydraulics or worn clutch bearing? > _______________________________________________ > > Spitfires@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/spitlist@cox.net _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 29 14:52:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD7CF426B9 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:52:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from MAIL01.ados.net (mail.ados.net [216.162.207.87]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F358B40359 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:50:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ados.net (unverified [127.0.0.1]) by MAIL01.ados.net (Vircom SMTPRS 5.22.7.16456) with ESMTP id for (AUTH = Joe@ados.net); Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:50:45 -0700 From: "Joe@ados.net" To: spitfires@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 13:50:45 -0700 Subject: [Spits] Vehicle shipping. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone have any good recommendations for companies to use for shipping a Spit from Oregon to Virginia? There are so many disreputable folks out there. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated Thanks Joe Frakes _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 29 15:07:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A1D40E3F for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:07:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C312403BB for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:04:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA140A0779 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:04:52 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:04:51 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: spitfires@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Spits] Vehicle shipping. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Joe@ados.net wrote: > Anyone have any good recommendations for companies to use for shipping a Spit > from Oregon to Virginia? Get it to Salt Lake. Then in September I'll drive it to the big FOT vintage race in Wisconsin. From there someone can drive it to Virginia. Just a thought. mjb. _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 29 15:38:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 483D840568 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:38:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f180.google.com (mail-ob0-f180.google.com [209.85.214.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C659F403D7 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:38:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f180.google.com with SMTP id up14so2380769obb.39 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:38:24 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=964eXkNgoRSXh596jmEDqG8ho+R5I6et5US6eJNtxhk=; b=FPKA2SceuCcjhxgZn0RSNjLiIgDL+K32wieNJTCH0mkOA96I9eSuPM91oBYKljzgNT cDj94BMT5jLQFhFflX3AD9qX11IXyTUEq7+cv3MRY61OGYhCfe8Ql03YXv9dgg9lA3iH KUfldC26V3NqjobVYSxhWeDxwAdpiaZeYPLWK5uIdyXY04Pc2/Mw78zuAH1Q3waIXo8M iBoWR/gPaOWJbqZd493dbORzgnsUr1AJhfOAE55Mr0pVF3dXYtQwdG0W1e4WXymSLQsq cIcMJv9dROjOucIkxmjE2GX/+X60v3UrNZ7Ti+PVlNL/EJCOs22gzwrv3xqxNK7vveAM uATA== l19mr54350053obr.55.1375133904679; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:38:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.149.67 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 14:38:24 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:38:24 -0400 From: Doug Braun Cc: Spitfire Group Subject: Re: [Spits] Vehicle shipping. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net My Spit was shipped from Oregon to NJ in 1999 by White Cloud Auto Transport, of Boise, Idaho. Phone (at the time): 208-368-0461. Doug On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Joe@ados.net wrote: > Anyone have any good recommendations for companies to use for shipping a > Spit > from Oregon to Virginia? There are so many disreputable folks out there. > Any > suggestions would be greatly appreciated > > Thanks > > Joe Frakes > _______________________________________________ > > Spitfires@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/doug@dougbraun.com _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 29 17:08:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64745406A2 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:08:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f44.google.com (mail-oa0-f44.google.com [209.85.219.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A1C7403DB for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 17:07:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id l20so10907775oag.17 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:07:40 -0700 (PDT) h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=uQ2h3yJYSXniOQyzJb/aUYMJPYAHeT6RuqQ984WxEmY=; b=Gq254aItFGKHc+Uyc/DVXOvxYB3MlnocEHI6bTSWdRUJseFR2P11n+nBgWPaOsw7OT 4NTKnSlO5dMl3Ve6mItcGnOhxddHN2/LfzA2qti3N+QB8fqfJgecfbRAiS1m/K9q1roM m9yyS7sE/ohi5wENX/LEHkD8SjbX28Aa9zdsAzPc8pYLqPNRgPdKpSrvmVdPfKOXA8Yb UFrfJYfSr7CkmDdLvhMP+cthBjoW/KAYCh4dMw+19huUBSA9s12/VXtjChQcYddGYjMt MsCB70+Rnnb9KxHeu5fAbRU1NB42gSuw3xoY3y3B3cqFt6GQDUjSdj4GAND7ZMOacu5L MdZA== vw7mr60734131oeb.67.1375139260224; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.27.35.150] (108-254-212-29.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. [108.254.212.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hm1sm90616991obb.9.2013.07.29.16.07.38 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:07:39 -0700 (PDT) References: <5g2Y1m01E0koGQ601g2ZWb> <1068689200B3407CB731BDFD4A722490@Vista> <6J5a1m02T3l2LHM01J5ybg> <2662DFC9E16B4A4E8632910D0FE4E714@Vista> From: Hans Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 16:07:38 -0700 To: Joe Curry , "spitfires@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spits] Spit clutch adjustment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net OK, I misunderstood when you said "measure how far it travels with clutch depressed" i measured the end float at the pulley to be about an eight of an inch! Wow, it sounds like the thrust washer dropped out altogether as Donald Locker suggested. It would explain the suddenness. It being hot was coincidental. I guess there is no easier fix than an overhaul(?)Too bad, it is running really well with good compression on all cylinders in spite of all the caliifornia smog crap on it. Thanks again, Hans Sent from my iPad On Jul 29, 2013, at 11:18 AM, "Joe Curry" wrote: > You shouldn't have to worry about keeping the clutch pedal pushed in. By > pushing it all the way to the floor, the crankshaft will be pushed to its > maximum forward position. Releasing the pedal won't change that. So you can > use that crank position as the starting point and measure how far back it > will go when you push on the crank pulley. That will measure the end float. > > Joe > > -----Original Message----- > From: HANS DEFERRANTE [mailto:junedefer@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2013 11:06 AM > To: Joe Curry; spitfires@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spits] Spit clutch adjustmenteasrier > > Thanks Joe, > That makes a lot of sense. Problem is, how to keep the clutch disengaged > while checking the end float? Although slave and master cylinders look OK it > may still be a hydraulic problem. Does someone out there have some nifty > simple idea to keep the clutch disengaged, with the SC removed, while > checking end float? > > Hans > 61 TR3A > 76 Spit > > > > On Jul 27, 2013, at 10:54 PM, Joe Curry wrote: > >> You night have worn thrust washers allowing the crank to float rather than >> release the clutch. Check the end float by pushing back on the crank > pulley >> nut and then measure how far it travels when the clutch is depressed. >> >> Joe >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net >> [mailto:spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of HANS DEFERRANTE >> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 9:02 PM >> To: spitfires@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Spits] Spit clutch adjustment >> >> The clutch on my 76 spit suddenly fails to disengage when hot. The shop >> manual does not mention any adjustment procedure. Does that mean either > air >> in the hydraulics or worn clutch bearing? >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Spitfires@autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/spitlist@cox.net > _______________________________________________ > > Spitfires@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spitfires/sukaspit@gmail.com _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 29 19:42:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A603640653 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:42:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f174.google.com (mail-ob0-f174.google.com [209.85.214.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2562403BB for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 19:38:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f174.google.com with SMTP id wd6so7575100obb.5 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:38:08 -0700 (PDT) h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=twNRKD/u4nMHJNZLaOt01gkuxwVba0fnT2tbiiDm0Xs=; b=IBOxQtOq+IS7dZ86Ok3LrlUDf3sXEr0HXqjKKNHKPcDw0Tw9hcZm4pDIinu1kM/Vqh qJoqBhD7fM8A6iwUIOzrGaznUB/F7QgnofmuRj+TZ62ItD9Xf9RIZXfXWrjbErzyN6UC G32SiEfhHnq1iUw42wgHqUamEa/E08jqRAbQHrskaHWWoZrjblwlpvmOXZURM9Nu1kym XdbMBumiBToh6tgTBLjJayYg4MYOhO9x0EU3/l6I3WofE2/flWeFbtyQgjoq/grtdwXd Bk95rdwJ1E37NNlPeMsG+22Ste4AJU/tF0Je4uYq3NHwGQPcUzJnmjphH9D5l/6EU31k 4Auw== Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [172.27.35.150] (108-254-212-29.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net. [108.254.212.29]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t10sm3646321igz.9.2013.07.29.18.38.06 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:38:07 -0700 (PDT) References: <5g2Y1m01E0koGQ601g2ZWb> <1068689200B3407CB731BDFD4A722490@Vista> <6J5a1m02T3l2LHM01J5ybg> <2662DFC9E16B4A4E8632910D0FE4E714@Vista> <93CEE3FE-6683-489E-9570-630BB5D3C964@gmail.com> <51F6FA4E.50203@rmi.net> From: Hans Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2013 18:38:06 -0700 To: spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spits] Spit clutch adjustment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net That is great news, Roger. I just got a workshop manual to check that out. I can see that is the way to go. I am still tempted to do a conversion to a Toyota or Nissan drivetrain or whatever some one out there might recommend. Thanks Sent from my iPad On Jul 29, 2013, at 4:27 PM, Roger Elliott wrote: > If that is all that is wrong, you can drop the oil pan and the front main bearing and put a new ones in. They come in different thicknesses. I think SpitBits has the wides selection of thicknesses. Goodparts also has a good selection and his are hardened. > > Roger > > > On 07/29/2013 06:07 PM, Hans wrote: >> OK, I misunderstood when you said "measure how far it travels with clutch >> depressed" >> i measured the end float at the pulley to be about an eight of an inch! Wow, >> it sounds like the thrust washer dropped out altogether as Donald Locker >> suggested. It would explain the suddenness. It being hot was coincidental. >> I guess there is no easier fix than an overhaul(?)Too bad, it is running >> really well with good compression on all cylinders in spite of all the >> caliifornia smog crap on it. >> Thanks again, >> Hans _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive