From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 11 16:02:59 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833C12584605 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 16:02:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B460225845D4 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 15:36:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [67.253.121.192] ([67.253.121.192:56056] helo=Mailbox) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 4A/15-08448-83599255; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:42:16 +0000 From: "Kevin Rhodes" To: Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 17:42:19 -0400 Thread-Index: AdB0nhvaEuLDwPIeRH+nTELLtzZFDQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Spits] Driveshaft removal question, and carb heatshield Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Hello all, I finally got around to ordering a new driveshaft for my Spitfire ('74ish with O/D). I currently have the CV-joint type and that joint is about done. I've owned the car for 19 years and only recently found out that thing is supposed to have a boot on it and be filled with grease - uh, oops. Since it has been about 15 years since I have had the driveshaft out of the car, could someone remind me as to whether the bolts on the transmission end are accessible from underneath the car? I am vaguely remembering that they are not, which means some interior disassembly is required. Also, which way around is the new driveshaft supposed to go, or does it not matter? This is assuming the flanges are the same on both ends, of course. I also finally ordered some new rear brake drums to replace the slightly warped current ones, Freddie is going to be so smooooth this summer! Debating removing the diff and having new oil seals put on while I am unbolting things. The place marking is getting a bit past the acceptable level. Sigh. Another small project is that I ordered one of the fancy stainless steel carb heat shields from Moss Europe - I have dual SUs but have never had a heat shield on the car. Does that go in front of or behind the spacers between the carbs and the manifold? Should I use a bit of gasket maker against the heat shield to prevent air leaks? After a couple summers of not much use, I am bound and determined to DRIVE the little guy this summer. Odometer is at ~99300, I want to see all those 0's! I bought him in '96 with ~77K showing. Getting to be time for a freshening up too. In the next couple years I think a paint job and another interior rehab are due. Previous owner painted the car in his garage (and it looks good, considering that) and I redid the interior 18 years ago. Both are looking a little worn now, and the driver's seat frame is showing its age with some "gangsta lean". I don't know if I have ever shared a picture, but here is the little guy with his BIG sister: https://flic.kr/p/gK4igd Thanks for the advice, and thanks to Mark for making this possible all these years! Kevin Rhodes Westbrook, Maine (finally warm enough to get out in an LBC) Freddie the Spitfire _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 11 19:18:36 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 220BE2585A4A for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:18:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f175.google.com (mail-ig0-f175.google.com [209.85.213.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7BB125803EC for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 19:06:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by igbqf9 with SMTP id qf9so22398006igb.1 for ; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 18:12:22 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ChUMBY3Mr4uVX1SRGy5noxC+NW/QhlB9+LWibv+4wqo=; b=lb/UU+yiule/aa9bGgj62M2weauqYjXK+jIOhXFgM/iYNOd1tc6d2TsSS24n5+/aQW grNAXUXoXXyoeIiOE7Km3iCEaMZNdIcU6vUJb8vz2XUY/pd+rbGtaopaWURAZtZrsD1d zocAfUHMF21K6cs4dbDu25nfoNGtYUXyAGPMlYEOx+IWiHuhfZE3V+ecOx04ZYo+AJGb BR9BlYe1/g9+VXNLYLD6DM8Oe7MM0WnQUdcynO0t8wFYie6HKnyH57Vw7tjFZQBoVi6o C5iIXiIKnkuC2ETjpKk/Y4L31rnVc2LoZCEYyOWMARs0KAxw4nQO5N6OLNQDmQjZ9xED mWhQ== 1mr12271159iop.20.1428801142319; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 18:12:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.136.7 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Apr 2015 18:12:22 -0700 (PDT) References: <006c01d074a0$631a9420$294fbc60$@maine.rr.com> Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:12:22 -0400 From: Doug Braun To: Kevin Rhodes Cc: Spitfire Group Subject: Re: [Spits] Driveshaft removal question, and carb heatshield Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net MAYBE you can unbolt the front flange from below. I just looked under my O/D car. Access to the flange is not blocked by the transmission mount like on a non-O/D car, but the gap between the two frame members is pretty small, just enough room to stick a couple of wrenches up there. The U-joint (or splines or straps) go to the rear. Are you sure you need to paint your car? It looks pretty good in the photo. I repainted my '72 a year or two ago, and it took much longer than I expected. See my blog and photos of the process here: http://dougbraun.com/blog/sptifire/ Here in NJ, the salt has finally been washed form the roads, so it is safe to take my Spit out... Doug On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Kevin Rhodes wrote: > Since it > has been about 15 years since I have had the driveshaft out of the car, > could someone remind me as to whether the bolts on the transmission end are > accessible from underneath the car? I am vaguely remembering that they are > not, which means some interior disassembly is required. Also, which way > around is the new driveshaft supposed to go, or does it not matter? This is > assuming the flanges are the same on both ends, of course. _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 12 10:37:19 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9A62584AD2 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 10:37:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spitfires@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17CB1258049B for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 10:09:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [67.253.121.192] ([67.253.121.192:60529] helo=Mailbox) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id C6/E3-08448-01A9A255; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 16:15:13 +0000 From: "Kevin Rhodes" To: "'Doug Braun'" References: <006c01d074a0$631a9420$294fbc60$@maine.rr.com> Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 12:15:18 -0400 Thread-Index: AQHX30QVaJr3RaYIcegrifZznR1liQJ16c1UnScH6MA= Content-Language: en-us Cc: 'Spitfire Group' Subject: Re: [Spits] Driveshaft removal question, and carb heatshield Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spitfires-bounces@autox.team.net Itbs a good 20b car b as you get closer you can see that time has taken its toll on the paint. Chips and scratches and a few dings. Stress cracks in the hood. Itbs getting to be time. I definitely wonbt DIY the paint, I know a guy who has a little paint shop in his backyard, does great work for cheap. Thanks for the driveshaft info! Got the garage cleaned up yesterday, so time to tackle this stuff. -Kevin From: Doug Braun [mailto:doug@dougbraun.com] Sent: Saturday, April 11, 2015 9:12 PM To: Kevin Rhodes Cc: Spitfire Group Subject: Re: [Spits] Driveshaft removal question, and carb heatshield MAYBE you can unbolt the front flange from below. I just looked under my O/D car. Access to the flange is not blocked by the transmission mount like on a non-O/D car, but the gap between the two frame members is pretty small, just enough room to stick a couple of wrenches up there. The U-joint (or splines or straps) go to the rear. Are you sure you need to paint your car? It looks pretty good in the photo. I repainted my '72 a year or two ago, and it took much longer than I expected. See my blog and photos of the process here: http://dougbraun.com/blog/sptifire/ Here in NJ, the salt has finally been washed form the roads, so it is safe to take my Spit out... Doug On Sat, Apr 11, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Kevin Rhodes wrote: Since it has been about 15 years since I have had the driveshaft out of the car, could someone remind me as to whether the bolts on the transmission end are accessible from underneath the car? I am vaguely remembering that they are not, which means some interior disassembly is required. Also, which way around is the new driveshaft supposed to go, or does it not matter? This is assuming the flanges are the same on both ends, of course. _______________________________________________ Spitfires@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive