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Greetings,

The PCV valve on my son's Midget fell apart while underway. We're 
missing various interior bits. Moss isn't expecting any whole valve 
assemblies in until the end of December. Does anyone have a spare they 
might part with at a reasonable price?

Or...can anyone suggest a substitute PCV valve that I might get from our 
friends at NAPA?

Thanks,
Dave Ambrose
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A PCV would be fairly universal. They are open in one direction and closed
in the other. Just the plumbing on either end to deal with.  Bill in Oregon
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[mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Ambrose
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Subject: [Spridgets] Need a PCV valve

Greetings,

The PCV valve on my son's Midget fell apart while underway. We're 
missing various interior bits. Moss isn't expecting any whole valve 
assemblies in until the end of December. Does anyone have a spare they 
might part with at a reasonable price?

Or...can anyone suggest a substitute PCV valve that I might get from our 
friends at NAPA?

Thanks,
Dave Ambrose
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Hello David,

     Paul A. bought one at NAPA that fit into the threads of the
     manifold. Came right out of that with a rubber hose to the canister on the front
     cover, no other breather at all. Worked just fine on my 1098.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
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The one I was told to get (from a list member) was a CARQUEST PN 78074.

I have never actually tried it, but the box is empty...



-----Original Message-----

Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Need a PCV valve

Hello David,

     Paul A. bought one at NAPA that fit into the threads of the
     manifold. Came right out of that with a rubber hose to the canister on
the front
     cover, no other breather at all. Worked just fine on my 1098.

-- 
Best regards,
 Bill L.                           mailto:pythias@pacifier.com
 
 '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403   "the red thing"
 
      * "I can't eat any more of this bitter herb," said Tom ruefully.
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Does anyone know,  do we have a calendar for 2013??
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Hi Jeff,

Yes, Seth Jones has once again done wonders to produce a Spridget calendar
on Lulu!

http://www.lulu.com/shop/search.ep?type=Calendars&keyWords=Sprite+Midget+Club&x=14&y=3&sitesearch=lulu.com&q=

Cheers,
Jim

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 6:43 PM, JeffG-Mail <jeffsbugeye@gmail.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know,  do we have a calendar for 2013??
> Jeff Kelly
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High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
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Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
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exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the
public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate
promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because
of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a
dictatorship, then a monarchy."                                   -  Alexis
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Check this out.

http://www.wikihow.com/Make-Beer-Can-Christmas-Ornaments

Although it seems he uses mostly lite beers. You may have to reinforce the
tree branches with some baling wire if you use real beer.
Happy Holidays,
Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
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Kudos to Seth Jones for putting together the 2013 calendars!  They rock!
Get yours now or pass the URL on to your significant other as a Christmas
suggestion.  Hang one in the garage or shop and another on the
refrigerator!

 The 2013 large format

http://www.lulu.com/shop/seth-jones/sprite-midget-club-usa-2013-13x19-open/calendar/product-20532921.html

And the 2013 small format

http://www.lulu.com/shop/seth-jones/sprite-midget-club-usa-2013-11x17-open/calendar/product-20532907.html

Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
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That article cracked me up!! I wish I had a chimp to drive me around now.

Heard

On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 12:54 PM, HealeyRick <healeyrick@yahoo.com> wrote:

> This is too good not to share.  Ebay brings us a Healey fitted by an animal
> trainer so his chimpanzee could drive:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1961-AUSTIN-HEALEY-VERY-RARE-FAMOUS-DUAL-STEER
>
> ING-HARD-TOP-MKII-3000-BT7-/170952126097?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item27cd8a6e9
> 1  and the link to the Life magazine story is hilarious:
>
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> ne+austin+healey+monkey+chimpanzee&source=bl&ots=Buxpff0wLE&sig=SA9nmzqZ0hZIX
>
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If I mix equal amounts of 110 and 100 octane race gas, will it average 
out to 105? 110 is too much, 100 is too little, 105 is just right in my 
11:1 engine. Seems logical to me but I thought I better ask.

Point of reference, here in Georgia Sunoco 110 is going for $9.99 a 
gallon and 100 is $7.99. Probably be more at the track!

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Bob Spruck wrote:
> If I mix equal amounts of 110 and 100 octane race gas, will it average
> out to 105? 110 is too much, 100 is too little, 105 is just right in my
> 11:1 engine. Seems logical to me but I thought I better ask.
>

Actually it isn't quite linear.  It would be more like 4 gallons of 100 
and 2 of 110
would do it.  I thought I had a reference handy, can't seem to find it.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane_rating
There'll be a test on Friday.
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Bob Spruck wrote:
> If I mix equal amounts of 110 and 100 octane race gas, will it average
> out to 105? 110 is too much, 100 is too little, 105 is just right in my
> 11:1 engine. Seems logical to me but I thought I better ask.
>
==========================================
Actually it isn't quite linear.  It would be more like 4 gallons of 100 
and 2 of 110
would do it.  I thought I had a reference handy, can't seem to find it.

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I don't know the answer to your question.  But I'm curious - how did you
decide 110 is too much and 100 is too little?

Rick

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On Dec 4, 2012, at 9:14 PM, Bob Spruck <mgmaven@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> If I mix equal amounts of 110 and 100 octane race gas, will it average
> out to 105? 110 is too much, 100 is too little, 105 is just right in my
> 11:1 engine. Seems logical to me but I thought I better ask.
>
> Point of reference, here in Georgia Sunoco 110 is going for $9.99 a
> gallon and 100 is $7.99. Probably be more at the track!
>
> Bob
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I think it depends on what the additives are in each type of gas that are
used to raise the octane.

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If I mix equal amounts of 110 and 100 octane race gas, will it average 
out to 105? 110 is too much, 100 is too little, 105 is just right in my 
11:1 engine. Seems logical to me but I thought I better ask.

Point of reference, here in Georgia Sunoco 110 is going for $9.99 a 
gallon and 100 is $7.99. Probably be more at the track!

Bob
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> But I'm curious - how did you decide 110 is too much and 100 is too 
> little?

At the very high RPMs in racing, is it really advantageous to use 
slower-burning gas - a  timing thing?  Or is there some other factor in 
effect?

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The archives are currently not working, so:

I thought I polarized my generator following instructions online - + battery 
terminal to small wire on generator.  But I can't get a voltage reading off 
either the generator or the battery when the engine is running.  Just now, I 
got a lower reading on the battery after running the engine a bit for 
testing, then turning it off.

When the engine is running, the headlights get brighter with RPM.  That 
indicatest that there is output from the generator, but it is not getting to 
the battery.  So why can't I read any output at the generator?

What are the symptoms of a dead generator other than no output at all?  What 
are the symptoms of a dead regulator?

Michael Rowe
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I mentioned that I was getting some poor mileage out of my 1275.  Of course
it had to do with my accelerator pump.  I changed it. . . the mileage is
getting back towards where it should be.

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Naah

It's that well know and rarely diagnosed "Right Foot Syndrome"

Larry

On Dec 5, 2012, at 16:28 PM, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2@gmail.com> wrote:

> I mentioned that I was getting some poor mileage out of my 1275.  Of course
> it had to do with my accelerator pump.  I changed it. . . the mileage is
> getting back towards where it should be.
> 
> Kirk
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Watch this video......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH_yIeKsBSM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Dec 5, 2012, at 4:09 PM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe@optonline.net> wrote:

> The archives are currently not working, so:
>
> I thought I polarized my generator following instructions online - + battery
terminal to small wire on generator.  But I can't get a voltage reading off
either the generator or the battery when the engine is running.  Just now, I
got a lower reading on the battery after running the engine a bit for testing,
then turning it off.
>
> When the engine is running, the headlights get brighter with RPM.  That
indicatest that there is output from the generator, but it is not getting to
the battery.  So why can't I read any output at the generator?
>
> What are the symptoms of a dead generator other than no output at all?  What
are the symptoms of a dead regulator?
>
> Michael Rowe
> The Holy Sprite
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Changes to the accelerator output actually made a big difference.  But I am
heavy on the foot as well.  With the same type of driving it made a big
difference.  That accelerator pump is very sensitive . . I really did not
realize how sensitive it is.  I still have more to so with the pump.

Thanks,

Kirk


On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Larry Macy <lmacy@mac.com> wrote:

> Naah
>
> It's that well know and rarely diagnosed "Right Foot Syndrome"
>
> Larry
>
> On Dec 5, 2012, at 16:28 PM, Kirk Hargreaves <khargreaves2@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > I mentioned that I was getting some poor mileage out of my 1275.  Of
> course
> > it had to do with my accelerator pump.  I changed it. . . the mileage is
> > getting back towards where it should be.
> >
> > Kirk
> > ------------------------
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Watch this video......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH_yIeKsBSM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Perfect.  Thanks Rick.

Michael Rowe
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 The factor is detonation. Don't ask Rick Fisk how I know. 
--JohnD

>At the very high RPMs in racing, is it really advantageous to use 
slower-burning gas - a  timing thing?  Or is there some other factor in 
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Hey John,  How big was the hole in the piston??? Or should I ask Rick??
LOL
Jeff Kelly

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The factor is detonation. Don't ask Rick Fisk how I know.
--JohnD

>At the very high RPMs in racing, is it really advantageous to use
slower-burning gas - a  timing thing?  Or is there some other factor in
effect?
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No holes, but it looked like Thor had been in there hammering.  :-)


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On Dec 5, 2012, at 8:37 PM, "JeffG-Mail" <jeffsbugeye@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey John,  How big was the hole in the piston??? Or should I ask Rick??
> LOL
> Jeff Kelly
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: John Deikis
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 7:00 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Octane
> 
> The factor is detonation. Don't ask Rick Fisk how I know.
> --JohnD
> 
>> At the very high RPMs in racing, is it really advantageous to use
> slower-burning gas - a  timing thing?  Or is there some other factor in
> effect?
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I recently bought a new aluminum cylinder head off of a list member and it
worked out great.  Are there any others out there that are sitting on an alloy
cylinder head that I could buy.  I need one for the Bugeye 1275 now.  
 
Thanks for any help or leads on this.
 
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Yes, the aluminum head works well.  Are you sure that you don't have another?
 
Mike


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Mike, glad to hear you're happy with the head!

Larry



-----Original
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I recently bought a new aluminum cylinder head off of a list member and it
worked out great.  Are there any others out there that are sitting on an
alloy
cylinder head that I could buy.  I need one for the Bugeye 1275 now.
Thanks for any help or leads on this.

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As pre 67 bus owner I don't like when modifications to that extreme are
made : (
This is a typical stock single cab bus 1962.
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/pix/4607775.jpg
Lin


On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001@comcast.net> wrote:

> Sounds like he's running EFI, so this was the easy way out, just yank the
> whole harness from the donor & take the gauges too.
>
> The only problem is that it sounds like it might be the 2.9L Cologne
> engine,
> which is a piece of crap.  Cracks heads, poor lube to the top end.
>
> If it's the 4.0L then he is OK.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Caldwell
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 10:47 AM
> To: spridgets@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Neat VW bus...
>
> ... thought I'd share. A long-time customer just came in to pickup CV
> boots for his VW Bus pickup, which are cool on their own.
>
> His, however, has a Ford Ranger V6 in the back. Cramped but neat
> installation.  The real curiosity to me was his dashboard....
>
> As the Ford required all of the electronic dashboard gimickry, and he
> wanted to retain the stock dash, he installed the Ford dash crap
> under the pickup bed, and installed a back-up camera that plays to a
> small screen velcroed to the dash!
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Mark what are offset rear springs?
Also being Pinky (my 62 Sprite) leans a bit on one side I am thinking of
buying new rear springs anyone have a preference as to who to get them
from? Peter C. do you stock them?
Several years ago at Carlisle Frank pointed out a set of leaves and said to
put them in my spring set which I bought and still sit on the shelf. I was
thinking if I take the springs apart I may as well just replace them
because you know once you start to take something apart you break lots of
stuff.........don't ask me how I know that........wink.
Lin


On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001@comcast.net> wrote:

> I know the panhard rod is intended to provide better handling, but
> in the Bugeye's case I'm more interested in extending the life of the rear
> springs.
>
> I've had to replace a rear spring that had several leafs broken.
> I'm sure that age had something to do with it, but I think the side to side
> sway does not help any.
>
> I presume ride quality is not much affected with the panhard rod?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Haynes
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Projects update
>
> This was my thinking when I put the WC panhard rod on the MKII, since I was
> intending on racing it, and didn't want to flare the rears too much
> (vintage
> rules and all that).
> What I've found (in my limited use so far) is that it does reduce the sway
> side to side of the rear axle which translates into a reduced oversteer.
> That
> being said, I also have a stock front swaybar and offset rear springs on
> the
> MKII as well.
> The upshot is that it has a much more neutral feel on entry, with the same
> type of cornering speed and similar handling. It does, however FEEL like it
> reaches the limit earlier than the BE, but I have no data to corroborate
> that.
> Wheel spacers are next on the MKII to balance the fender clearances, then a
> new layshaft and bearings and its all cool.
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The offset rear springs are to provide more clearance and eliminate rubbing on
the spring if you are running a wider tire without spacers. The need is a
function of tire width and rim offset, including spacer.
I raced a sprite with < ellipticals and the panhard bar was essential, but it
did reduce maximum speed in really high speed corners such as Road Atlanta #12
and the last turn before front straight at Sebring. The limit came in pretty
suddenly until we finally determined that we were getting binding between the
spring and the panhard bar for a very slight instant. The panahard bar wants
to move in an arch and the spring want to move up and down in a straight line.
On these high speed turns you have some pretty high pressure on the outside
tire and these type of turns are where the sprite can make up time on other
higher speed cars. To eliminate this you modify the spring mounts to allow a
very slight amount of compliance.
Doug Wilson
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Check the front springs as well. There's more weight over the front
suspension so a sagging coul could also contribute to the lean.

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

 <-----Original Message----->

 	  	 From: Linda Grunthaner [grunthaner@gmail.com]
Sent: 12/7/2012 6:31:07 AM
To: dlh2001@comcast.net
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net;haynes386@netzero.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Projects update 

Mark what are offset rear springs? 
Also being Pinky (my 62 Sprite) leans a bit on one side I am thinking of
buying new rear springs anyone have a preference as to who to get them 
from? Peter C. do you stock them? 
Several years ago at Carlisle Frank pointed out a set of leaves and said
to 
put them in my spring set which I bought and still sit on the shelf. I
was 
thinking if I take the springs apart I may as well just replace them 
because you know once you start to take something apart you break lots
of 
stuff.........don't ask me how I know that........wink. 
Lin 


On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 7:57 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001@comcast.net> wrote:
> I know the panhard rod is intended to provide better handling, but 
> in the Bugeye's case I'm more interested in extending the life of the
rear 
> springs. 
> 
> I've had to replace a rear spring that had several leafs broken. 
> I'm sure that age had something to do with it, but I think the side to
side 
> sway does not help any. 
> 
> I presume ride quality is not much affected with the panhard rod? 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net 
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Haynes 
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Projects update 
> 
> This was my thinking when I put the WC panhard rod on the MKII, since
I was 
> intending on racing it, and didn't want to flare the rears too much 
> (vintage 
> rules and all that). 
> What I've found (in my limited use so far) is that it does reduce the
sway 
> side to side of the rear axle which translates into a reduced
oversteer. 
> That 
> being said, I also have a stock front swaybar and offset rear springs
on 
> the 
> MKII as well. 
> The upshot is that it has a much more neutral feel on entry, with the
same 
> type of cornering speed and similar handling. It does, however FEEL
like it 
> reaches the limit earlier than the BE, but I have no data to
corroborate 
> that. 
> Wheel spacers are next on the MKII to balance the fender clearances,
then a 
> new layshaft and bearings and its all cool. 
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Well it can't hurt to ask : )
I have a 67 bus but the rear bumper has a pull. It looks like they used a
strap on the bumper to pull it so both the top and the rear have a bend in
the metal. I hear I can heat it with my torch and then using the sandy
ground hammer it back. But I thought I'd ask if anyone has some leads
because you never know. Or know of a good metal worker in NJ area.

I'd take front & rear if available or any other VW parts.

Thanks
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Lin,
Have you tried putting a want ad in the Vintage VW Club of America
magazine/newsletter?  I'm no longer a member, so I haven't been keeping up
with how the club is doing.  However, I assume the club is still healthy and
active.  Worth a try.
Also, for future reference, have you ever attended the Ski Round Top swap
meet, in September?  It's all pre-'75 (?) air-cooled Porsche and VW stuff.
I've never been able to attend, for one reason or another, but I understand
it's a really good event and is growing larger each year.

Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 11:24 AM
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Subject: [Spridgets] NOT LBC Looking for a rear bumper 65-67 VW bus

Well it can't hurt to ask : )
I have a 67 bus but the rear bumper has a pull. It looks like they used a
strap on the bumper to pull it so both the top and the rear have a bend in
the metal. I hear I can heat it with my torch and then using the sandy
ground hammer it back. But I thought I'd ask if anyone has some leads
because you never know. Or know of a good metal worker in NJ area.

I'd take front & rear if available or any other VW parts.

Thanks
Lin
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offset rear springs allow wide rear tires.  the spring is not straight from
front to rear.     i have a set in my bugeye.
 
chuck.
 
________________________________
From: Chris King <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>
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Check the front springs as well. There's more weight over the front
suspension so a sagging coul could also contribute to the lean.

Chris King
http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/ 

<-----Original Message----->

         
From: Linda Grunthaner [grunthaner@gmail.com]
Sent: 12/7/2012 6:31:07 AM
To:
dlh2001@comcast.net
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Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Projects update 

Mark what are offset rear springs?
Also being Pinky (my 62 Sprite) leans a bit on one side I am thinking of
buying new rear springs anyone have a preference as to who to get them 
from?
Peter C. do you stock them? 
Several years ago at Carlisle Frank pointed out a
set of leaves and said
to 
put them in my spring set which I bought and still
sit on the shelf. I
was 
thinking if I take the springs apart I may as well
just replace them 
because you know once you start to take something apart you
break lots
of 
stuff.........don't ask me how I know that........wink. 
Lin
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I am looking to buy a used heater box for an early car, the square type  
unit. The rear panel on mine is rotted out at the bottom, perhaps from years 
of  contact with battery acid or a water leak during a previous owners  
tenure. I actually only need the rear panel if someone has some heater  parts 
available.
 
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Got any more?

Sent from my keyboard

On Dec 8, 2012, at 1:10 PM, charles christ <crusaderchuck@yahoo.com> wrote:

> offset rear springs allow wide rear tires.  the spring is not straight from
> front to rear.     i have a set in my bugeye.
>
> chuck.
>
> ________________________________
> From: Chris King <cbking@alum.rpi.edu>
> To:
> grunthaner@gmail.com
> Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net; haynes386@netzero.net
> Sent: Friday, December 7, 2012 3:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Projects
> update
>
> Check the front springs as well. There's more weight over the front
> suspension so a sagging coul could also contribute to the lean.
>
> Chris King
> http://home.comcast.net/~kvcbk/
>
> <-----Original Message----->
>
>
> From: Linda Grunthaner [grunthaner@gmail.com]
> Sent: 12/7/2012 6:31:07 AM
> To:
> dlh2001@comcast.net
> Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net;haynes386@netzero.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Projects update
>
> Mark what are offset rear springs?
> Also being Pinky (my 62 Sprite) leans a bit on one side I am thinking of
> buying new rear springs anyone have a preference as to who to get them
> from?
> Peter C. do you stock them?
> Several years ago at Carlisle Frank pointed out a
> set of leaves and said
> to
> put them in my spring set which I bought and still
> sit on the shelf. I
> was
> thinking if I take the springs apart I may as well
> just replace them
> because you know once you start to take something apart you
> break lots
> of
> stuff.........don't ask me how I know that........wink.
> Lin
> ------------------------
>
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I stumbled upon this website last night.

http://www.knucklebusterinc.com/features/category/how-to/

The guy is into motorcycles, but these scans and PDF's regarding
sheet metal, lathes, welding, etc. are PRICELESS.

Scroll to the bottom and keep hitting previous, there are many pages.

I downloaded everything and loaded it up on my tablet.
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Thanks Dean.  Lot's of good stuff there.

One tip I learned recently involves drilling through stainless steel.  Once in
a while at work I have to drill holes in stainless steel cabinets to mount
various things.  Always hated it because the stainless is hard and quickly
dulls a good bit.  Cutting oil never seemed to help.  I was on a job and had
to mount some stainless cabinets.   I was bemoaning the fact that drilling
stainless was hard and the customer who was standing there said "Use dish
soap".  He went and got a bottle of Dawn dish soap and we used it as a cutting
lube.  Worked like a charm!  It makes the stainless drill like mild steel.  I
now have a bottle on my truck.

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Dec 9, 2012, at 12:56 AM, "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001@comcast.net> wrote:

> I stumbled upon this website last night.
>
> http://www.knucklebusterinc.com/features/category/how-to/
>
> The guy is into motorcycles, but these scans and PDF's regarding
> sheet metal, lathes, welding, etc. are PRICELESS.
>
> Scroll to the bottom and keep hitting previous, there are many pages.
>
> I downloaded everything and loaded it up on my tablet.
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They ARE, Mark.  Search function is GREAT ! ! !

<< On 12/9/2012 3:27 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote:

It should be working better. >>

Thank you ! ! !
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<< On 12/9/2012 8:51 AM, Rick Fisk wrote:

  He went and got a bottle of Dawn dish soap and ... >>

So did it dawned on him you NEEDED help, Rick ? ?

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Anyone who has adjusted an external voltage regulator as described in the 
books please contact me off list.

Thanks,
Michael Rowe
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Can one of the listers tell him his e-mail a/c has been hacked!
 
 
In a message dated 10/12/2012 15:46:51 Coordinated Universal Time,  
cooper6@swbell.net writes:

I'm writing this Email with Tears rolling Down my Cheeks,  Am Presently 
here in Philippines(Manila) for a X-Mas vacation to visit a  resort and got 
mugged at gun point last night at the park of the hotel  where i lodged. All 
cash,credit cards and cell were stolen off me.I've  been to the embassy and 
the Police here but they're not helping issues  at all,my flight leaves today 
and I'm having problems settling the hotel  bills.

The hotel manager won't let me leave until i settle the  hotel. I will 
Appreciate if you can loan me the Money or anything you  can afford for now 
because am really freaked out. Please am hanging on  for a Response from you so 
that i can let you know how to get the money  to me.
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I received one of these emails from a musician friend of mine. I asked him
to answer one simple question, where did we meet. That pissed the scammer
off to no end, all this crap about how can I ask such a question at a time
like this. I told him, either answer the question, or fuck off. He didn't
answer the question....

On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 1:24 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com> wrote:

> Can one of the listers tell him his e-mail a/c has been hacked!
>
>
> In a message dated 10/12/2012 15:46:51 Coordinated Universal Time,
> cooper6@swbell.net writes:
>
> I'm writing this Email with Tears rolling Down my Cheeks,  Am Presently
> here in Philippines(Manila) for a X-Mas vacation to visit a  resort and got
> mugged at gun point last night at the park of the hotel  where i lodged.
> All
> cash,credit cards and cell were stolen off me.I've  been to the embassy and
> the Police here but they're not helping issues  at all,my flight leaves
> today
> and I'm having problems settling the hotel  bills.
>
> The hotel manager won't let me leave until i settle the  hotel. I will
> Appreciate if you can loan me the Money or anything you  can afford for now
> because am really freaked out. Please am hanging on  for a Response from
> you so
> that i can let you know how to get the money  to me.
> ------------------------
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From: MARTIN COOPER <cooper6@swbell.net>
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2012 17:29:00 -0600
To: Brad Fornal <tequila.brad@gmail.com>
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Sorry everyone!  What a pain

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 10, 2012, at 5:27 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad@gmail.com> wrote:

> I received one of these emails from a musician friend of mine. I asked him
> to answer one simple question, where did we meet. That pissed the scammer
> off to no end, all this crap about how can I ask such a question at a time
> like this. I told him, either answer the question, or fuck off. He didn't
> answer the question....
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 1:24 PM, <WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com> wrote:
>
>> Can one of the listers tell him his e-mail a/c has been hacked!
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 10/12/2012 15:46:51 Coordinated Universal Time,
>> cooper6@swbell.net writes:
>>
>> I'm writing this Email with Tears rolling Down my Cheeks,  Am Presently
>> here in Philippines(Manila) for a X-Mas vacation to visit a  resort and
got
>> mugged at gun point last night at the park of the hotel  where i lodged.
>> All
>> cash,credit cards and cell were stolen off me.I've  been to the embassy
and
>> the Police here but they're not helping issues  at all,my flight leaves
>> today
>> and I'm having problems settling the hotel  bills.
>>
>> The hotel manager won't let me leave until i settle the  hotel. I will
>> Appreciate if you can loan me the Money or anything you  can afford for
now
>> because am really freaked out. Please am hanging on  for a Response from
>> you so
>> that i can let you know how to get the money  to me.
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Peter, Ed, or anyone know where I can get a copper head gasket? I think
mine has blown between #2 and #3, and want to put one in that is a bit
stronger than the usual items.

Brad

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NFI,
Store pickup free in some areas.  Maybe other area can do shipping.

http://www.searsoutlet.com/2-1-4-ton-Jack-Stands-2-pk-/d/product_details.jsp?stxt=jack%20stand&md=srh_md&pn=1&ps=24&pid=14380&cid=2441&mode=buyNewOnly&itemSelectionType=all
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<< On 12/11/2012 8:05 AM, Brad Fornal wrote:

Peter, Ed, or anyone know where I can get a copper head gasket? I think mine has blown between #2 and #3, and want to put one in that is a bit stronger than the usual items. >>


Brad, the REAL question is "Why did it blow ??" ? ?
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=====================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brad Fornal
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 6:06 AM
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Subject: [Spridgets] Copper Head Gasket

Peter, Ed, or anyone know where I can get a copper head gasket? I think
mine has blown between #2 and #3, and want to put one in that is a bit
stronger than the usual items.

Brad

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http://vimeo.com/49357431

There are a few Sprites, but they get no mention, honorable or 
otherwise..... Still, some of you have driven the course at the 50th. 
Not much has changed, except they cut the grass, now.

Enjoy.   29 minutes.

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I was reading a car mag this morning in the reading room, and it occurred
to me that all of us remember our first car. That's what we do...since we
are car guys (and gals).

How many of you remember the place you bought it and the name of the
salesman (or private seller)? I even remember the names of the rest of the
sales staff at the dealership.

I bought my 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III in 1968 at Buzz Marcus Motors in
Glenside, PA. Buzz was an SCCA racer who drove Triumphs. His mechanic was
Dick Stockton, who also worked on my TR. I think Buzz is still on Facebook
and living in FL. He opened one of the first Toyota dealerships in the
area. My father bought his first Toyota there, a 1970 Corona. When Toyota
exploded (not literally), Buzz sold the dealership and retired to racing
full time.

My salesman in those early days was Dave Landis and the other salesmen were
Bennet Orr and Hap Schmalbach.

If I can remember the parts manager's name, I'll get back to you. I also
bought my TR4A IRS at Buzz's, so I became fast friends with the parts
department.
Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget
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Anyone have some?   Now's the time to sell, as I need some.

Contact me off list, please.

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I dunno you could have answered all our questions and paid for your  
Christmas!
 
 
In a message dated 10/12/2012 23:29:12 Coordinated Universal Time,  
cooper6@swbell.net writes:

Sorry  everyone!  What a pain

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Ask APT what they are currently using and buy one!
 
 
In a message dated 11/12/2012 14:05:51 Coordinated Universal Time,  
tequila.brad@gmail.com writes:

Peter,  Ed, or anyone know where I can get a copper head gasket? I think
mine has  blown between #2 and #3, and want to put one in that is a bit
stronger than  the usual items.

Brad

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My dad gave me my first car so of course I remember that well - '55 Chevy 2
door Belair.  I also remember buying my first Spridget.  I bought it at a used
sports car lot called "Sir Lance's Lot" on Commonwealth Avenue in Fullerton,
CA. in January of 1968.  I bought a '59 Sprite with 70,000 miles for $500.
It was a California car so rust-free of course.  I still have it today.  :-)

Sir Lance's Lot had a whole bunch of British iron on the lot that day.
XK120's/140's, XKE's, MGB's, a big Healey, and various Midget's and Sprites.
I wanted a Bugeye and that was good because it was all I could afford.

Rick

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On Dec 11, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Allen Hefner <lbc77mg@gmail.com> wrote:

> I was reading a car mag this morning in the reading room, and it occurred
> to me that all of us remember our first car. That's what we do...since we
> are car guys (and gals).
>
> How many of you remember the place you bought it and the name of the
> salesman (or private seller)? I even remember the names of the rest of the
> sales staff at the dealership.
>
> I bought my 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III in 1968 at Buzz Marcus Motors in
> Glenside, PA. Buzz was an SCCA racer who drove Triumphs. His mechanic was
> Dick Stockton, who also worked on my TR. I think Buzz is still on Facebook
> and living in FL. He opened one of the first Toyota dealerships in the
> area. My father bought his first Toyota there, a 1970 Corona. When Toyota
> exploded (not literally), Buzz sold the dealership and retired to racing
> full time.
>
> My salesman in those early days was Dave Landis and the other salesmen were
> Bennet Orr and Hap Schmalbach.
>
> If I can remember the parts manager's name, I'll get back to you. I also
> bought my TR4A IRS at Buzz's, so I became fast friends with the parts
> department.
> Allen Hefner
> Norristown, PA
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Mine was a 1958 Pontiac Safari Station wagon- I paid a $1 for it in 1967 it
was my fathers company's old delivery car had over 100K in miles when I got
it - drove it for 3 years! It was a tank - Wish I still owned it!
 
Marty Cooper

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From: Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] O.F. memory
To: "Allen Hefner" <lbc77mg@gmail.com>
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Date: Wednesday, December 12, 2012, 1:13 PM


My dad gave me my first car so of course I remember that well - '55 Chevy 2
door Belair.  I also remember buying my first Spridget.  I bought it at a
used
sports car lot called "Sir Lance's Lot" on Commonwealth Avenue in Fullerton,
CA. in January of 1968.  I bought a '59 Sprite with 70,000 miles for $500.
It was a California car so rust-free of course.  I still have it today.  :-)

Sir Lance's Lot had a whole bunch of British iron on the lot that day.
XK120's/140's, XKE's, MGB's, a big Healey, and various Midget's and Sprites.
I wanted a Bugeye and that was good because it was all I could afford.

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

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> I was reading a car mag this morning in the reading room, and it occurred
> to me that all of us remember our first car. That's what we do...since we
> are car guys (and gals).
>
> How many of you remember the place you bought it and the name of the
> salesman (or private seller)? I even remember the names of the rest of the
> sales staff at the dealership.
>
> I bought my 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III in 1968 at Buzz Marcus Motors in
> Glenside, PA. Buzz was an SCCA racer who drove Triumphs. His mechanic was
> Dick Stockton, who also worked on my TR. I think Buzz is still on Facebook
> and living in FL. He opened one of the first Toyota dealerships in the
> area. My father bought his first Toyota there, a 1970 Corona. When Toyota
> exploded (not literally), Buzz sold the dealership and retired to racing
> full time.
>
> My salesman in those early days was Dave Landis and the other salesmen were
> Bennet Orr and Hap Schmalbach.
>
> If I can remember the parts manager's name, I'll get back to you. I also
> bought my TR4A IRS at Buzz's, so I became fast friends with the parts
> department.
> Allen Hefner
> Norristown, PA
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I remember very well the buying of my Sprite.  I was in the USAF in England 
in 1961.  The salesman, Andrew Wilson-Gunn, came to my base and was taking 
orders.  I ordered the car in December.  On January 8 a buddy drove me to 
Donald Healey's dealership in Warwick and dropped me off.  After completing 
the paper work I was shown my new shiny black Mark 2 Sprite.  I was thrilled 
with it.  I was about half way back to my base which was about 50 miles from 
Warwick when the car slowed down and just stopped running.  It took a minute 
to realize that I was out of "petrol."  There was not a house anywhere in 
view.  A kindly passing driver stopped to ask if could help and then drove 
me ten miles to the next town and back again with fuel.  The rest of the 
trip was uneventful but I will never forget that day.  I still enjoy driving 
it.

Nelson 
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From: WFO Herb <froggi60@gmail.com>
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These are great 'car guy' ideas.
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Portland International Raceway (PIR) posted this on their facebook
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Herb

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_/*BESIDES*/_ what follows below Herb, do you realize you just sent 
out _*ONE THOUSAND /(1000)/*_ "Invites" ??  You _/*INSANE*/_ ? ! ? ! ?

<< On 12/13/2012 10:13 PM, WFO Herb wrote:

... e-mail me direct.  >>

Now for why I am_/*PISSED*/_  !

1]  you sent a *BCC* to _/*MY*/_ List which auto-generates a 
'bounce-9issa' which "I" have to handle --- having ZERO desire to do 
so = *EXTRA* friggin mail ! !
2] you sent *PICS* to MJBs List (Spridgets) which ALSO auto-generates 
a 'bounce-spridgets@autox.team.net = EXTRA mail for Mark which I am 
relatively sure HE does not want/need ! !
3]  "_/*Ed's Ass"*/_ ? ? ?   gessh, lame AND degrading <G> <G> !

Me

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*YOU* get TWO (2) :
*ONE (1)* via 9issa and *ONE (1)* *DIRECTLY* to you _/*<VBFEG>*/_ = _/*
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My first was a '59 Porsche 356A coupe (Messien Blue, w/ox blood interior),
in July of '64.  Long story, from which I'll spare you, but the price (paid
by my father) was the cost of a major service, by our local Porsche
dealership (Continental Cars on West Liberty Ave. in Dormont, PA just
outside of Pittsburgh city limits).  The original owner, a long-time family
friend and employee of my father's, was our port engineer and had forgotten
more about machinery than most of us can ever hope to learn.  After meeting
some of the mechanics, a couple of whom are still good friends of mine 48
years later, the original owner took me out in the car for a "pre-flight"
check.  By the time I got behind the wheel to drive the 20 miles to our
home, I was pretty much intimidated & in awe of the car.  After several
miles of getting the feel of the car and as the roads became increasingly
rural, I realized that I was having a LOT of fun driving this awesome GT
car!
The car's purpose was to transport me and my younger sister 30 miles (round
trip) each day to and from high school, over a delightful series of
twisting, plunging, rough-surfaced back roads.  Miracle of miracles is that
we all three (my sister, me and the 356) survived unscathed and I learned
lessons in high-speed driving that are still serving me well today.
We traded the car in, about 13 months later, at the Porsche dealership, on a
'61 356B S-90 Roadster.  I don't know where my old coupe ever ended-up.  I
understand it was sold to a U. of Pitt grad student, from the Philadelphia
area, but that's the very last I ever hear of the car.
Part of the reason for the car's moving on was that we were having it
serviced at the local (Washington, PA) BMC/Jaguar dealer, Town & Country
Cars.  Unfortunately, the clowns they had working on it were completely
un-qualified for Porsche work...........and I suspect they screwed-up a
bunch of BMC/Jaguar products, too.............., but I did end up spending a
lot of my school lunch hours prowling that dealership, which ultimately led
me to buy a '66 MGB in August of '67.  The rest, as they say, is history. :)

Bud Osbourne

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Allen Hefner
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2012 11:11 AM
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Subject: [Spridgets] O.F. memory

I was reading a car mag this morning in the reading room, and it occurred to
me that all of us remember our first car. That's what we do...since we are
car guys (and gals).

How many of you remember the place you bought it and the name of the
salesman (or private seller)? I even remember the names of the rest of the
sales staff at the dealership.

I bought my 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III in 1968 at Buzz Marcus Motors in
Glenside, PA. Buzz was an SCCA racer who drove Triumphs. His mechanic was
Dick Stockton, who also worked on my TR. I think Buzz is still on Facebook
and living in FL. He opened one of the first Toyota dealerships in the area.
My father bought his first Toyota there, a 1970 Corona. When Toyota exploded
(not literally), Buzz sold the dealership and retired to racing full time.

My salesman in those early days was Dave Landis and the other salesmen were
Bennet Orr and Hap Schmalbach.

If I can remember the parts manager's name, I'll get back to you. I also
bought my TR4A IRS at Buzz's, so I became fast friends with the parts
department.
Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA
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My 1st car was a 57 Ford Fairlane. I had driven it when it was my brother's but we never got it running again. I don't remember what was even wrong with it. My 2nd car was a $100 Pontiac Bonneville. It was a monster my 10 speed bike fit in the trunk with out removing the front wheel. It lasted about 8 months until I parked it for 3 weeks. after that I had to put a squirt of oil in each cylinder to start it if it sat for more than 48 hours. Then my oldest brother got transferred and I had to take care of his 2nd car A 1963 1/2 Ford Falcon with a 68 289, 4 speed and 4 barrel carb. When he came back (1975?) it was time to look for transportation! A friend had a real nice 68 Ford Cougar but it was an automatic so I keep looking. A 1969 Midget with body damage. The front end was just replace all the bolt on sheet medal. The rear turned in to frame bent in 2 places. So I picked up a 65 sprite body and changed everything over. After that as Bud says the rest is history



Paul Van Wig
Big Bear/Long Beach, CA
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facebook.com/pvanwig

1959 Nash Metropolitan (the wife's fun ride)
1968 Morris Minor Woody RHD
1960 Bug Eye (awaiting restoration)

1980 CJ7 Lives @ 7440'
2012 Turbo Diesel Ram 2500 4X4
2003 Toyota 4Runner (the wife's Mountain car)
2012 Cadillac SRX 3.6 (the wife's work ride)

1958 Minor-wrecked
1965 Midget-parts
1981 Datsun 210 1500 w/ 5 speed




I was reading a car mag this morning in the reading room, and it occurred to
me that all of us remember our first car. That's what we do...since we are
car guys (and gals).

How many of you remember the place you bought it and the name of the
salesman (or private seller)? I even remember the names of the rest of the
sales staff at the dealership.

I bought my 1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III in 1968 at Buzz Marcus Motors in
Glenside, PA. Buzz was an SCCA racer who drove Triumphs. His mechanic was
Dick Stockton, who also worked on my TR. I think Buzz is still on Facebook
and living in FL. He opened one of the first Toyota dealerships in the area.
My father bought his first Toyota there, a 1970 Corona. When Toyota exploded
(not literally), Buzz sold the dealership and retired to racing full time.

My salesman in those early days was Dave Landis and the other salesmen were
Bennet Orr and Hap Schmalbach.

If I can remember the parts manager's name, I'll get back to you. I also
bought my TR4A IRS at Buzz's, so I became fast friends with the parts
department.
Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA
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My first car was actually 2. I found a pair of MGA's sitting along side a house. One was a 59 and the other a 61. There was one MGB engine in a box and several boxes of parts. I got the whole thing for $300. I do not remember the dude's name, but I do remember the expression on Dad's face. We draggeds them home with a rope and one of them basically had no brakes. Boy was that fun!!

I was not yet 16 and had no license or permit. I cleaned out one side of the garage and began the long clean up. It was taking a while and soon I found girls and somehow the A's never got finished. I sold them about 3 years later for the same $300 I paid for them. In somewhat the same condition. The engine was built and some of the body work done. But still no where near being finished. 

Next up was a 73 Vega Kammback. Loved that car. Later on we got our First Midget. a 76 in 1978, used from a MG Dealer lot in Denver.

Larry



On Dec 11, 2012, at 11:11 AM, Allen Hefner <lbc77mg@gmail.com> wrote:

> I was reading a car mag this morning in the reading room, and it occurred
> to me that all of us remember our first car. That's what we do...since we
> are car guys (and gals).
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I suspect we'd all like to see this movie if it is still available
digitally somewhere...  Even Cecil Kimber would smile!

Cheers!!
Jim

********************************************************************8888
I recently viewed part of a MG promo silent film made in the 1920's about a
couple in Britain going to the MG factory to pick up their new automobile.
The film was bout 1 hr long, black and white.

Do you or anyone in the Club have a link to this film.

I have owned a Bugeye sprite since in 1962..sheewh..... 50 years.  Lots of
history there.

Mike Kiester
ekiester@hotmail.com
580-255-4020


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman@gmail.com
 "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only
exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the
public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate
promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because
of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a
dictatorship, then a monarchy."                                   -  Alexis
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Someone posted it here to the list about two years ago if memory serves (or 
maybe that should be swerves).  I remember people commenting on the paint 
shop scene where the guys were painting the body panels in a cloud of mist 
with no respirators.

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, Wa

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Johnson" <bmwwxman@gmail.com>
To: "Yahoo Spridget list" <midgetsprite@yahoogroups.com>; "Spridgets" 
<spridgets@autox.team.net>; "easternoshitgroup" 
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>I suspect we'd all like to see this movie if it is still available
> digitally somewhere...  Even Cecil Kimber would smile!
>
> Cheers!!
> Jim
>
> ********************************************************************8888
> I recently viewed part of a MG promo silent film made in the 1920's about 
> a
> couple in Britain going to the MG factory to pick up their new automobile.
> The film was bout 1 hr long, black and white.
>
> Do you or anyone in the Club have a link to this film.
>
> I have owned a Bugeye sprite since in 1962..sheewh..... 50 years.  Lots of
> history there.
>
> Mike Kiester
> ekiester@hotmail.com
> 580-255-4020
>
>
> -- 
> Cheers!!
> Jim Johnson
> Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
> High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
> Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
> Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
> Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
> bmwwxman@gmail.com
> "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only
> exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the
> public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate
> promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses 
> because
> of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a
> dictatorship, then a monarchy."                                   - 
> Alexis
> de Tocqueville -
> ------------------------
>
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In this group??  Bill in Oregon
http://tinyurl.com/cngx7kl

======================================
-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim Johnson
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2012 2:47 PM
To: Yahoo Spridget list; Spridgets; easternoshitgroup; Sprite
Subject: [Spridgets] Can anyone help this gentleman?

I suspect we'd all like to see this movie if it is still available
digitally somewhere...  Even Cecil Kimber would smile!

Cheers!!
Jim

********************************************************************8888
I recently viewed part of a MG promo silent film made in the 1920's about a
couple in Britain going to the MG factory to pick up their new automobile.
The film was bout 1 hr long, black and white.

Do you or anyone in the Club have a link to this film.

I have owned a Bugeye sprite since in 1962..sheewh..... 50 years.  Lots of
history there.

Mike Kiester
ekiester@hotmail.com
580-255-4020


-- 
Cheers!!
Jim Johnson
Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman@gmail.com
 "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only
exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the
public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate
promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because
of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a
dictatorship, then a monarchy."                                   -  Alexis
de Tocqueville -
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I think this is it......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pwfu-emoOI&feature=youtube_gdata_player



Sent from my keyboard
> 
> I recently viewed part of a MG promo silent film made in the 1920's about a
> couple in Britain going to the MG factory to pick up their new automobile.
> The film was bout 1 hr long, black and white.
> 
> Do you or anyone in the Club have a link to this film.
> 
> I have owned a Bugeye sprite since in 1962..sheewh..... 50 years.  Lots of
> history there.
> 
> Mike Kiester
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That's the one I remember.

Rich Ball
'76 Midget
Everett, WA

----- Original Message ----- 
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>I think this is it......
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pwfu-emoOI&feature=youtube_gdata_player
>
>
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>>
>> I recently viewed part of a MG promo silent film made in the 1920's about 
>> a
>> couple in Britain going to the MG factory to pick up their new 
>> automobile.
>> The film was bout 1 hr long, black and white.
>>
>> Do you or anyone in the Club have a link to this film.
>>
>> I have owned a Bugeye sprite since in 1962..sheewh..... 50 years.  Lots 
>> of
>> history there.
>>
>> Mike Kiester
> ------------------------
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http://www.britishpathe.com/video/the-british-motor-car-aka-william-morris

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I think this is it......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pwfu-emoOI&feature=youtube_gdata_player



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> 
> I recently viewed part of a MG promo silent film made in the 1920's about
a
> couple in Britain going to the MG factory to pick up their new automobile.
> The film was bout 1 hr long, black and white.
> 
> Do you or anyone in the Club have a link to this film.
> 
> I have owned a Bugeye sprite since in 1962..sheewh..... 50 years.  Lots of
> history there.
> 
> Mike Kiester
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I find myself for the first time machining some 7075 Aluminum alloy on the
lathe the other evening.

This is my new favorite metal.  It is as strong and hard as many steels yet
it machines very easily.

The presence of chromium in this alloy does not go unnoticed.  The surface
finish is spectacular.  When cut with a fine tool you get that prismatic
effect, like looking at a CD. This happens with other aluminum alloys to
some extent, but they soon dull over after short time.  7075 stays bright.

I can't believe I've wasted my whole life messing around with 6061.

I'll have to get some more of this stuff.  It's expensive from the big
online vendors like McMaster or MSC, but there are a couple guys on ebay
with very reasonable prices.

In fact I've discovered ebay is the way to go for metal stock.  You can
often find oddball stuff that people have left over from big projects that
they just want to get rid of. I was able to get four foot of bearing grade
stainless steel rod like this.  The shipping cost more than the rod!  The
same stuff from McMaster would have cost over $150.
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Aren't you going to tell us what you're making?
 
 
In a message dated 15/12/2012 05:34:27 Coordinated Universal Time,  
dlh2001@comcast.net writes:

I find  myself for the first time machining some 7075 Aluminum alloy on the
lathe  the other evening.

This is my new favorite metal.  It is as strong  and hard as many steels yet
it machines very easily.

The presence of  chromium in this alloy does not go unnoticed.  The surface
finish is  spectacular.  When cut with a fine tool you get that prismatic
effect,  like looking at a CD. This happens with other aluminum alloys to
some  extent, but they soon dull over after short time.  7075 stays  bright.

I can't believe I've wasted my whole life messing around with  6061.

I'll have to get some more of this stuff.  It's expensive  from the big
online vendors like McMaster or MSC, but there are a couple  guys on ebay
with very reasonable prices.

In fact I've discovered  ebay is the way to go for metal stock.  You can
often find oddball  stuff that people have left over from big projects that
they just want to  get rid of. I was able to get four foot of bearing grade
stainless steel  rod like this.  The shipping cost more than the rod!  The
same  stuff from McMaster would have cost over $150.
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I'm making two rotors for the Sprite Judson supercharger.

Pictures to follow.

 

  _____  

From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com] 
Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2012 7:04 AM
To: dlh2001@comcast.net; spridgets@autox.team.net
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Aren't you going to tell us what you're making?

 

 

In a message dated 15/12/2012 05:34:27 Coordinated Universal Time,
dlh2001@comcast.net writes:

I find myself for the first time machining some 7075 Aluminum alloy on the
lathe the other evening.

This is my new favorite metal.  It is as strong and hard as many steels yet
it machines very easily.

The presence of chromium in this alloy does not go unnoticed.  The surface
finish is spectacular.  When cut with a fine tool you get that prismatic
effect, like looking at a CD. This happens with other aluminum alloys to
some extent, but they soon dull over after short time.  7075 stays bright.

I can't believe I've wasted my whole life messing around with 6061.

I'll have to get some more of this stuff.  It's expensive from the big
online vendors like McMaster or MSC, but there are a couple guys on ebay
with very reasonable prices.

In fact I've discovered ebay is the way to go for metal stock.  You can
often find oddball stuff that people have left over from big projects that
they just want to get rid of. I was able to get four foot of bearing grade
stainless steel rod like this.  The shipping cost more than the rod!  The
same stuff from McMaster would have cost over $150.
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From: WFO Herb <froggi60@gmail.com>
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Dean,
What clearance between rotor & vanes?
Herb

On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001@comcast.net> wrote:

> I'm making two rotors for the Sprite Judson supercharger.
>
> Pictures to follow.
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Just in case anyone wants any reference pictures for locations of stuff here 
are pics of Iris right before I sold her.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/speichinger


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Yea, a dark steel blue.

The lathe is an old "Atlas".  Go figure.

I actually don't machine very much.  The lathe was a gift from an old
friend.  It was in sorry shape at that time.  I have spent some money
over the years to revive it, and although it is usable it still could
stand some more renovations.

I usually use it to make things to repair other things.
This current project is probably the grandest undertaking.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jody Kerr [mailto:jodyfkerr@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 1:33 AM
To: Dean Hedin
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Rearden metal

Hey Dan,

If you're going to call it Rearden Metal you totally need to have it
anodized blue. :)

Jody
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>> Lucas Electrics
>>
>>      Electrical Theory - by Joe Lucas
>>
>>
>>
>>      Positive ground (they meant "earth") depends on proper circuit
>>
>>      functioning, which is the transmission of negative ions by retention
>>
>>      of the visible spectral manifestation known as smoke.
>>
>>
>>
>>      Smoke is the thing that makes electrical circuits work. We know this
>>
>>      to be true because every time one lets the smoke out of an electrical
>>
>>      circuit, it stops working. This can be verified repeatedly through
>>
>>      empirical testing.
>>
>>
>>
>>      For example, if one places a copper bar across the terminals of a
>>
>>      battery, prodigious quantities of smoke are liberated and the battery
>>
>>      shortly ceases to function. In addition, if one observes smoke
>>
>>      escaping from an electrical component such as a Lucas voltage
>>
>>      regulator, it will also be observed that the component no longer
>>
>>      functions. The logic is elementary and inescapable!
>>
>>
>>
>>      The function of the wiring harness is to conduct the smoke from one
>>
>>      device to another.
>>
>>
>>
>>      When the wiring springs a leak and lets all the smoke out of the
>>
>>      system, nothing works afterward.
>>
>>
>>
>>      Starter motors were considered unsuitable for British motorcycles for
>>
>>      some time largely because they consumed large quantities of smoke,
>>
>>      requiring very unsightly large wires.
>>
>>
>>
>>      It has been reported that Lucas electrical components are possibly
>>
>>      more prone to electrical leakage than their Bosch, Japanese or
>>
>>      American counterparts. Experts point out that this is because Lucas
>>
>>      is British, and all things British leak. British engines leak oil,
>>
>>      British shock absorbers, hydraulic forks and disk brake systems leak
>>
>>      fluid, British tires leak air and British Intelligence leaks national
>>
>>      defense secrets.
>>
>>
>>
>>      Therefore, it follows that British electrical systems must leak
>>
>>      smoke. Once again, the logic is clear and inescapable.
>>
>>
>>
>>      In conclusion, the basic concept of transmission of electrical energy
>>
>>      in the form of smoke provides a logical explanation of the mysteries
>>
>>      of electrical components especially British units manufactured by
>>
>>      Joseph Lucas, Ltd.
>>
>>
>>
>>      And remember: A gentleman does not motor about after dark.
>>
>>
>>
>>      Joseph Lucas - The Prince of Darkness
>>
>>
>>
>>      A few Lucas quips:
>>
>>
>>
>>      The Lucas motto: Get home before dark.
>>
>>
>>
>>      Lucas is the patent holder for the short circuit.
>>
>>      Lucas - Inventor of the first intermittent wiper.
>>
>>      Lucas - Inventor of the self-dimming headlamp.
>>
>>
>>
>>      The three-position Lucas switch--DIM, FLICKER and OFF. The other
>>
>>      three switch settings--SMOKE, SMOLDER and IGNITE.
>>
>>
>>
>>      The Original Anti-Theft Device - Lucas Electrics.
>>
>>
>>
>>      If Lucas made guns, wars would not start either.
>>
>>
>>
>>      Back in the '70s, Lucas decided to diversify its product line and
>>
>>      began manufacturing vacuum cleaners. It was the only product they
>>
>>      offered which did not suck.
>>
>>
>>
>>      Q: Why do the British drink warm beer?
>>
>>      A: Because Lucas makes their refrigerators.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> What's really scary:    Lucas make aviation control hydraulics for Boeing
and Airbus .  .  .
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It depends on the vane material used.

 

You have to calculate the thermal expansion of the iron housing through the
temperature

range you expect.  20 to 200F is reasonable in this case.

 

You then calculate the vane growth in similar fashion.

 

You then subtract the two and that is the cold clearance.

 

  _____  

From: WFO Herb [mailto:froggi60@gmail.com] 
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Dean,

What clearance between rotor & vanes?

Herb

On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001@comcast.net> wrote:

I'm making two rotors for the Sprite Judson supercharger.

Pictures to follow.
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http://tinyurl.com/c82zcfw

Almost there...  

Just need to cut those troublesome slots and I'll be home free.

The extra length shaft is sacrificial. It's needed for fixturing
while I cut the slots.  You wouldn't believe the contraption that
is needed to cut those dang slots!

I sure hope I can cut those slots.  Otherwise all the efforts up to 
this point will be for naught.

You can see in the picture the old rotor slots start to wear in "v"
shape.  That's why I'm doing this.  The believe is that the harder
7075 will be more robust with regard to wear.

BTW, the link I posted the other night about all the how-to machining
stuff was no coincidence.  I've had to study up on techniques!

Look at the shine on that 7075.  Isn't it something?  That's right off
the lathe, no polishing or anything.

The original Judson rotor was cast aluminum onto an interlocking shaft. 
I've had to come up with a more modern approach to mounting the rotor
onto the shaft.  

I've cut a 3/4" long machine key on the back side and the two are
interlocked with 1/4" square key.
 
The shaft hole was reamed to a tight slip fit and I used Locktite 680 shaft
mounting compound.  The machinist at work assures me this will never come
off. 680 is a really strong version of thread locker, designed for things
that are never intended to be disassembled.

Even if it did I'm still covered because the way things are designed the
rotor is pushed against the key as a result of tightening the nut on the
front of the shaft.
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I'm trying to determine where the rear (firewall side) brace to the 
carb heat shield fastens to the engine or transmission. I've got the 
front one OK, but I need to fabricate the rear brace so . . . where 
does it attach to the engine or wherever?
Thanks

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This is not a direct answer to your question but if you go to page 123 of this 
pdf you can at least see a factory illustration of the brackets.

http://www.spridgetguru.com/TchIndx17_files/AKD3513.pdf

 jay




________________________________
From: Tim Collins <thcollin@mtu.edu>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Sent: Mon, December 17, 2012 1:03:55 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Heat shield braces

I'm trying to determine where the rear (firewall side) brace to the carb heat 
shield fastens to the engine or transmission. I've got the front one OK, but I 
need to fabricate the rear brace so . . . where does it attach to the engine or 
wherever?
Thanks
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Thanks guys! I've got the info I need. Great help - again!


At 01:03 PM 12/17/2012, Tim Collins wrote:
>I'm trying to determine where the rear (firewall side) brace to the 
>carb heat shield fastens to the engine or transmission. I've got the 
>front one OK, but I need to fabricate the rear brace so . . . where 
>does it attach to the engine or wherever?
>Thanks
>
>Tim Collins
>------------------------

Tim Collins
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Not to mention the yield strength is almost double that of 6061 (~55ksi vs
~30ksi) That's why my adjustable radius rods are made from it!


Mark Haynes
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In a message dated 15/12/2012 05:34:27 Coordinated Universal Time,
dlh2001@comcast.net writes:

I find  myself for the first time machining some 7075 Aluminum alloy on the
lathe  the other evening.

This is my new favorite metal.  It is as strong  and hard as many steels yet
it machines very easily.

The presence of  chromium in this alloy does not go unnoticed.  The surface
finish is  spectacular.  When cut with a fine tool you get that prismatic
effect,  like looking at a CD. This happens with other aluminum alloys to
some  extent, but they soon dull over after short time.  7075 stays  bright.

I can't believe I've wasted my whole life messing around with  6061.

I'll have to get some more of this stuff.  It's expensive  from the big
online vendors like McMaster or MSC, but there are a couple  guys on ebay
with very reasonable prices.

In fact I've discovered  ebay is the way to go for metal stock.  You can
often find oddball  stuff that people have left over from big projects that
they just want to  get rid of. I was able to get four foot of bearing grade
stainless steel  rod like this.  The shipping cost more than the rod!  The
same  stuff from McMaster would have cost over $150.


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NFI please contact George if you are interested.  He also has a no title 62
Sprite with a good body for sale.

These are the same cars I posted about a month or so ago :-) but with more
information for the seller.

Thanks,

Kristi


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Found a neat picture from around 1949 of a Austin
pedal car. This web site, Shorpy Historical
Photos, has some great old time pictures. As you
search for the Austin pic, you will probably also
see the old gas station - Gasoline Allie: 1939.
You will have to scroll through the pictures
because as new pics are added the old ones move
down the line. Check here:
http://www.shorpy.com/node?page=1 . Be SURE you
click on the "view full size" option. Wonder what it cost back then?

Tim Collins
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Right, it's as strong as many steels but easy to machine.
The only problem is it is not recommended for welding.
I'm OK with that.  


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Haynes
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 3:51 PM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
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Not to mention the yield strength is almost double that of 6061 (~55ksi vs
~30ksi) That's why my adjustable radius rods are made from it!


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
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Yeah, I know, you want to know how those slots coming along...

http://tinyurl.com/cfucpv6

http://tinyurl.com/c5ozz6g

I must confess (and as you might have imagined) this has been an obsession
in the making for many years.

The big gear reduced motor thingy was purchased from surplus distributor
Herbach and Raedman, back around 2002.  I think it cost about $60.  

A few years went by and I finally machined the elements needed to mount it
to the lathe milling support and to create the arbor to hold the big blade
(which I did not yet have!)

Everything sort of came together when I was able to acquire the coveted "big
saw blade" for $15 on ebay a few weeks ago.  That blade new goes for $145
from Mcmaster.com.  I could never justify that price!

So what's going to happen?  Well, in the headstock of the lathe is a big
gear with a bunch of holes around its perimeter. These are marked off for
the four 90 degree positions of the slot cuts. They lock the chuck into each
position.

I then crank down on the top handle and then move the saw across the
cylinder with the other cross feed crank. I think it's going to take hours
and hours to cut these slots.  It would be nice to power feed, but I can't
power feed if I have the chuck locked into position!

Why am I doing two of these?  Some lucky ebay winner gets the other rotor!
Helps me pay for my psychologist!
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http://tinyurl.com/ck2djgh

=========================================

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[mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Collins
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 6:36 PM
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Subject: [Spridgets] Now This is Cool - Austin Pedal Car

Found a neat picture from around 1949 of a Austin
pedal car. This web site, Shorpy Historical
Photos, has some great old time pictures. As you
search for the Austin pic, you will probably also
see the old gas station - Gasoline Allie: 1939.
You will have to scroll through the pictures
because as new pics are added the old ones move
down the line. Check here:
http://www.shorpy.com/node?page=1 . Be SURE you
click on the "view full size" option. Wonder what it cost back then?

Tim Collins
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Subject: [Spridgets] Spridget Books on eBay
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My apologies for the shameless self-promotion, but for those interested in 
Spridget books, manuals or a part or two, I am in the process of liquidating my 
collection. Some of the books are somewhat rare

You can see the items at this link:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/type79/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3686

 
Thanks for your indulgence.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
61  Pink Sprite Mk II
63 Innocenti 950 Spider
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Glad to see you've hung on to any really good Spridget books about  
modifications!
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
 
In a message dated 18/12/2012 18:41:32 Coordinated Universal Time,  
jfishbein@snet.net writes:

My  apologies for the shameless self-promotion, but for those interested in 
 
Spridget books, manuals or a part or two, I am in the process of  
liquidating my 
collection. Some of the books are somewhat rare

You  can see the items at this  link:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/type79/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=&_trksid=p3
686


Thanks  for your indulgence.

jay fishbein
wallingford, ct
61  Pink  Sprite Mk II
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Everything went OK.  One down and seven to go.
Looks like each slot is going to take about 1 1/2 hours.

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Awesome!
Lin


On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 1:10 AM, <60bugeye@cebridge.net> wrote:

> Just in case anyone wants any reference pictures for locations of stuff
> here are pics of Iris right before I sold her.
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Nice Ed,
Lin


On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 9:49 AM, " Just Brits " Shop <shop@justbrits.com>wrote:

> in JJ's backyard ! ? ! ?
>
> A Spridget woulda looked FANTASTIC  (ESPECIALLY next to the '55 Caddy
> - LOL ! ! ! !
>
> http://tinyurl.com/cxrfptn
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> Ed
> Please visit MY site at:
> www.justbrits.com
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Frank would have found one looking like this and restored it on a weekend :
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We love you Frank : (
Lin
http://daddytypes.com/archive/austin_j40_pedal_bonham290.jpg


On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 5:58 AM, <corvallis@peoplepc.com> wrote:

> http://tinyurl.com/ck2djgh
>
> =========================================
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tim Collins
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2012 6:36 PM
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> Subject: [Spridgets] Now This is Cool - Austin Pedal Car
>
> Found a neat picture from around 1949 of a Austin
> pedal car. This web site, Shorpy Historical
> Photos, has some great old time pictures. As you
> search for the Austin pic, you will probably also
> see the old gas station - Gasoline Allie: 1939.
> You will have to scroll through the pictures
> because as new pics are added the old ones move
> down the line. Check here:
> http://www.shorpy.com/node?page=1 . Be SURE you
> click on the "view full size" option. Wonder what it cost back then?
>
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What material are you going to use for the vanes?


Bob and Dolores

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes

On Dec 18, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Dean Hedin wrote:

> Everything went OK.  One down and seven to go.
> Looks like each slot is going to take about 1 1/2 hours.
> 
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Torlon 4435

You can read about it here.
http://vwjudsonregister.tripod.com/torlon-vane-material.htm

I actually scanned that brochure and sent it that website.
The article refers to Torlon 7130, but that has been superseded 
by 4435.  You can get it from Drake Plastics.

You need a 12"x4"x.187" sheet for a Sprite Judson. It's about $130. 
It will most likely need to be thickness planned slightly to fit the slots. 

So don't make a mistake cutting it!
The old adage, "Cut once measure twice" definitely applies here.

There is another rocket science material that I just read about in Machine
Design magazine..  
http://www.metcar.com/index.html

Apparently they have some sort of carbon graphite designed for sliding vane
applications.  But I don't know how much it cost, where to get it, or even
know what its properties are.  Nor have I heard of any case studies of its
use.  

BTW, These are the true "Rearden Metals" of this day and age.

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Kitterer
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 8:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How it's made. Episode 498 Judson Rotor.

What material are you going to use for the vanes?
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When I had my Judson I contemplated coating the inside surface with Teflon
or Ceramic or something to help with friction.
Never got around to doing it, though.
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http://studentsforliberty.org/news/real-life-rearden-metal/

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Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How it's made. Episode 498 Judson Rotor.

Torlon 4435

You can read about it here.
http://vwjudsonregister.tripod.com/torlon-vane-material.htm

. . . . 
BTW, These are the true "Rearden Metals" of this day and age.
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With the recent discussion of Reardon-like metals, here is a coincidence.

20 Dec.2012 article: http://tinyurl.com/bsdvrot

Notice the word in the image (Atlas). Not a reference to Atlas Shrugged of
Reardon Metal note, but Atlas Steel. 

http://www.atlassteel.com/products/aluminizedsteel.aspx  Bill in wet, wet
Oregon
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Dean,
Tell us why the Judson rotor uses tangentially oriented vanes while 
the rotor shown in the brochure uses radial vanes?


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What brochure?  My Sprite Judson was exactly like Dean's.  Every Judson rotor
I've ever seen is like Dean's.  My VW Judson also had tangental vanes.  ???

Rick

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> Dean,
> Tell us why the Judson rotor uses tangentially oriented vanes while
> the rotor shown in the brochure uses radial vanes?
>
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This brochure that Dean referenced 
http://vwjudsonregister.tripod.com/torlon-vane-material.htm has vanes 
that radiate outward from the axis of rotation. Dean's rotor has 
vanes that are parallel to the axis of rotation - I think I'm saying 
that correctly.

At 11:39 AM 12/20/2012, Rick Fisk wrote:
>What brochure?  My Sprite Judson was exactly like Dean's.  Every Judson rotor
>I've ever seen is like Dean's.  My VW Judson also had tangental vanes.  ???
>
>Rick

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Ah, now I get it.  The rotor in the brochure is not a Judson.

Judson probably used the tangental orientation in an attempt to reduce vane
wear.  Being an automotive application the Judson probably runs hotter than
the compressor in the brochure.  Just my guess.

BTW, I sold my Judsons several years ago.  Tripled my investment and used the
money to buy an Ultralight.  :-)

Rick

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> This brochure that Dean referenced
http://vwjudsonregister.tripod.com/torlon-vane-material.htm has vanes that
radiate outward from the axis of rotation. Dean's rotor has vanes that are
parallel to the axis of rotation - I think I'm saying that correctly.
>
> At 11:39 AM 12/20/2012, Rick Fisk wrote:
>> What brochure?  My Sprite Judson was exactly like Dean's.  Every Judson
rotor
>> I've ever seen is like Dean's.  My VW Judson also had tangental vanes.
???
>>
>> Rick
>
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Having the vanes mounted sideways (like Judson) reduces the centrifugal
force on the tips contacting the bore by
reditributing part of this force to the side of the vane which has more
surface area.

The vane pump in the article is something used in the oil & gas well
industry.  Hard to tell how big it is, but it probably spins slow
compared to the Judson.  It could be that Judson had a patent on that
arrangement but I am doubtful of this. 
It could also be that the designer of that oil well gas pump does not know
about the advantage of the,
dare I say,  "Swastika" looking arrangement. 

The thing is - this "side wear" is exactly why I am making a new rotor.
All the used rotors I have seen have the slots worn out like this.
The hope is that the hard 7075 material, combined with the more modern vane
material will make this issue go away, 
or at least be greatly reduced. 

When the rotors wear out like this the unit becomes noisy, puts out less
pressure,  and any new vanes installed wear out quickly.   

BTW, I done did it... at least one rotor is almost completed.

http://tinyurl.com/cyy5736

I still can't believe I pulled this off.  It took a long time to cut those
dang slots. 1.5 hours each.


From: Tim Collins [mailto:thcollin@mtu.edu] 
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 11:09 AM
To: Dean Hedin; spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How it's made. Episode 498 Judson Rotor.

Dean,
Tell us why the Judson rotor uses tangentially oriented vanes while the
rotor shown in the brochure uses radial vanes?


Tim Collins

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From: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001@comcast.net>
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I'm all for the government making pennies out of 7075 aluminum.

That way, after some time, the value of the penny as 7075 will eventually
exceed the one cent face value.

I can then melt down pennies to get the 7075 that I need to make Judson
rotors.

They are trying to tell us the Chinese Yaun is "Undervalued".

If our pennies and nickels are worth more than their face values then is not
the dollar undervalued?

I guess that is the case of the copper kettle calling the iron pot black. 

See what a little liquor will do to me?


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net
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Subject: [Spridgets] metallurgy gonna save us all

With the recent discussion of Reardon-like metals, here is a coincidence.

20 Dec.2012 article: http://tinyurl.com/bsdvrot

Notice the word in the image (Atlas). Not a reference to Atlas Shrugged of
Reardon Metal note, but Atlas Steel. 

http://www.atlassteel.com/products/aluminizedsteel.aspx  Bill in wet, wet
Oregon
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Hi Dean,
 
You ought to write all this up and send it to a car magazine for a  
feature.  If they use it an pay you it will help pay for tools and material  and 
maybe get you some orders to make some more.
 
Regards
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
 
 
In a message dated 20/12/2012 21:23:50 Coordinated Universal Time,  
dlh2001@comcast.net writes:

I still  can't believe I pulled this off.  It took a long time to cut  those
dang slots. 1.5 hours each.
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This happened over here when the price of Copper increased.  However  all 
copper coins after a certain year are no longer solid copper but a ferrous  
metal that is copper plated - proved by the fact that magnet will stick to  
the more recent copper coins.  Speculation in the press about this drew the  
response that it's some sort of offence to destroy or smelt a coin of the  
realm.
 
 
In a message dated 20/12/2012 23:24:44 Coordinated Universal Time,  
dlh2001@comcast.net writes:

If our  pennies and nickels are worth more than their face values then is 
not
the  dollar undervalued?
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OK now that I have your attention, I bought this book titled "Dear Asshole
101 Tear-Out Letters to the Morons who muck up your life" yesterday for a
friends of mine (our school gym teacher) who's mom's house was swimming in
Super Storm Sandy. I wanted to cheer him up while cleaning & repairing the
house and spent 1 hr tracking down the best book and believe me this one is
the BEST as I laughed my ass off in the store and everyone was looking at
me while they were pissed off waiting in an extremely long line. This is a
must read it will totally make you happy as the sassy writers use their
words so well without all cursing, but some when needed.....wink.

The Barnes and Nobel only had the one copy as I was ready to buy out their
stock and mail them out to all my friends who have the same wacky sense of
humor as I do. So I'll just have to them online : )

So while you are waiting for your book to arrive safely in your Christmas
stocking go to the author's websites and have a few laughs.

http://www.pophangover.com/
http://foodnetworkhumor.com/

Merry Christmas,
Linda & Pinky (62 Deep Pink Sprite)
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From: Brad Fornal <tequila.brad@gmail.com>
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They have a similar law over here, yet almost every tourist trap has the
machine you put a penny into, and for .75 cents, you can bend it into an
imprinted keepsake to remind you of the TT you just visited.

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 4:12 AM, <WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com> wrote:

> This happened over here when the price of Copper increased.  However  all
> copper coins after a certain year are no longer solid copper but a ferrous
> metal that is copper plated - proved by the fact that magnet will stick to
> the more recent copper coins.  Speculation in the press about this drew the
> response that it's some sort of offence to destroy or smelt a coin of the
> realm.
>
>
> In a message dated 20/12/2012 23:24:44 Coordinated Universal Time,
> dlh2001@comcast.net writes:
>
> If our  pennies and nickels are worth more than their face values then is
> not
> the  dollar undervalued?
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The pennies here in the U.S.A. have been made of a zinc alloy coated with
copper for over twenty years.  They still cost over two cents to make.  The
last pure silver coins were minted in 1964.  I still find silver coins in my
change once in a while though.   Must be kids speding their dad's coin
collection.  :-)

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Dec 21, 2012, at 5:12 AM, WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com wrote:

> This happened over here when the price of Copper increased.  However  all
> copper coins after a certain year are no longer solid copper but a ferrous
> metal that is copper plated - proved by the fact that magnet will stick to
> the more recent copper coins.  Speculation in the press about this drew the
> response that it's some sort of offence to destroy or smelt a coin of the
> realm.
>
>
> In a message dated 20/12/2012 23:24:44 Coordinated Universal Time,
> dlh2001@comcast.net writes:
>
> If our  pennies and nickels are worth more than their face values then is
> not
> the  dollar undervalued?
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It's been awhile since I have been on the list. However, I thought I would
update how my Judson SC has been running. The unit has approx. 3000 miles on
it and is still performing very well. I have been adding 1 oz of Miracle to 1
gal of gas. Not having any overheating issues.

The unit has Torlon 4435 bladesB The housing bore treatedB with ECAT's thin
film wear resistant coating ZN54. The specs on the coating are 3000
microhardness , .06 coefficient of friction, 2-5 microns coating thickness,
1560 F max. working temperature.B 

One of these days I plan to tear it down to see how the inside is wearing. I
think a good point would be 5000 miles.

B 

Merry Christmas

Allen



----- Original Message -----




From: " derf " <derf247@ gmail .com>
To: "Dean Hedin " <dlh2001@comcast.net>
Cc: " Spridgets " < spridgets @ autox .team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 11:47:41 PM
Subject: Re: [ Spridgets ] How it's made. Episode 498 Judson Rotor.

When I had my Judson I contemplated coating the inside surface with Teflon
or Ceramic or something to help with friction.
Never got around to doing it, though.
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I haven't noticed any wear issues with the bore of my unit.  

I had honed it out some time ago and once it had broken in, the bore took 

on a polish and has remained this way ever since.

 

I believe the orginal vane material has much to do with how the bore wears.

 

But I am intrigued by the low friction aspect of the coating. 

How much does it cost to coat the bore in the ZN54?


  _____  

From: kramer.allen@comcast.net [mailto:kramer.allen@comcast.net] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 12:02 PM
To: derf
Cc: Spridgets; Dean Hedin
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How it's made. Episode 498 Judson Rotor.



It's been awhile since I have been on the list. However, I thought I would
update how my Judson SC has been running. The unit has approx. 3000 miles on
it and is still performing very well. I have been adding 1 oz of Miracle to
1 gal of gas. Not having any overheating issues.

The unit has Torlon 4435 blades The housing bore treated with ECAT's thin
film wear resistant coating ZN54. The specs on the coating are 3000
microhardness, .06 coefficient of friction, 2-5 microns coating thickness,
1560 F max. working temperature. 

One of these days I plan to tear it down to see how the inside is wearing. I
think a good point would be 5000 miles.

 

Merry Christmas

Allen




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From: "derf" <derf247@gmail.com>
To: "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001@comcast.net>
Cc: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2012 11:47:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How it's made. Episode 498 Judson Rotor.

When I had my Judson I contemplated coating the inside surface with Teflon
or Ceramic or something to help with friction.
Never got around to doing it, though.
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Starting in February, the penny is being discontinued here in Canada, 
another way for the government to save money. Your purchase will be rounded 
off to the nearest number, I was  traveling thru Australia last year, no 
pennies being used there, it worked well.

Greg Higgins
Canada

-----Original Message----- 
From: Brad Fornal
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 7:33 AM
To: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com
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They have a similar law over here, yet almost every tourist trap has the
machine you put a penny into, and for .75 cents, you can bend it into an
imprinted keepsake to remind you of the TT you just visited.

On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 4:12 AM, <WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com> wrote:

> This happened over here when the price of Copper increased.  However  all
> copper coins after a certain year are no longer solid copper but a ferrous
> metal that is copper plated - proved by the fact that magnet will stick to
> the more recent copper coins.  Speculation in the press about this drew 
> the
> response that it's some sort of offence to destroy or smelt a coin of the
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It's a limited audience.  I'm not sure if I want to make many more of these.
I've only delved into it because all the pieces had come together and I have
some unused vacation time to do it in.
 

  _____  

From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com [mailto:WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 5:09 AM
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Hi Dean,
 
You ought to write all this up and send it to a car magazine for a feature.
If they use it an pay you it will help pay for tools and material and maybe
get you some orders to make some more.
 
Regards
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
 
 
In a message dated 20/12/2012 21:23:50 Coordinated Universal Time,
dlh2001@comcast.net writes:

I still can't believe I pulled this off.  It took a long time to cut those
dang slots. 1.5 hours each.
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Ever seen these?

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Me TOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, Herb ? ? ? ?

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 I well remember my father going out to buy some , what we call 'penny
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proceeded to drill 3/16" holes in the pennies he had taken to pay for them
as it worked cheaper to do so and used them as washers on a vintage
motorcyle that is still going strong today. Legally he could have sent to
the Tower of London for this treasonous act, but he is long gone now
wreaking havoc and fixing mechanical things in heaven .
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> Now I think most of you know I'm an El Camino man.
>
> So when I got the following link from www.BarnFinds.com TITLED (as):
>
> "The Strangest eBay Listing EVER ......" !  The NON-forwardable 
> (pictures) eMail SAYS:
>
> "We have read a lot of eBay listings, but we just found the most 
> unusual one ever. This Cadillac is weird enough, but it looks tame 
> in comparison to the seller's description of what the vehicle will 
> do for you. Take a look at "the listing" for yourself and after you 
> pick yourself up off the floor, come back and find out who built 
> this monstrosity."
>
> I HAD to check it out (even tho I knew WHAT it was<VBG>) at: 
> http://tinyurl.com/cdsbj3d
>  ( CAN'T give full url as it gives things away <G><G> <G>)
> ---the above tiny url is the BarnFind DIRECT-to-Articlr url <G> ---
>
> Now on the above page and almost at the bottom of the "BarnFind" 
> page is a link "the listing" - DO NOT CLICK YET <G> !   Click on the 
> SAME link in 1st paragrapgh AFTER reading entire page <G> and it 
> WILL take you to the eBay ( SOLD ) page.

Me thinks BUYER made a SERIOUS, SERIOUS, SERIOUS ***KILLING***  ! ! ! ! !

Just totally "CLEANED" UP and I'd **BET** that she would bring 
$500,000.00 at Phoenix Barrett-Jackson Auction in the Spring (or 
better ?) ! ? ! ? !   Especially if has some charity got a hold of it 
<G> ! !

An 'outside' a "real looking of a different car" brochure is here: 
http://tinyurl.com/bs63unu

And for a couple other examples:      http://tinyurl.com/c3d6z3c*
*
Whatca think <G> ! ! !*

*Ed
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www.justbrits.com

PS:  Not for me - LOL - I'll stick-to Chevy (& maybe a GMC) versions) 
! ! @
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I still do this and have a collection of 'chump change' foreign coins for 
the same reason.

In the UK we have had a new dose or batch of magnetic nickel coated steel 
coins and they are playing havoc with many coin operated machines and I was 
recently stuck in a car park for 10 mins because the machine thought I was 
trying to avoid payment by using metal blanks.  The car park operator had to 
send a chap out to operate the barrier.

Guy R Day


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> I well remember my father going out to buy some , what we call 'penny
> washers' i.e. oversized outside diameter. . He came home furious and
> proceeded to drill 3/16" holes in the pennies he had taken to pay for them
> as it worked cheaper to do so and used them as washers on a vintage
> motorcyle that is still going strong today. Legally he could have sent to
> the Tower of London for this treasonous act, but he is long gone now
> wreaking havoc and fixing mechanical things in heaven .
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I remember a certain fellow (what's the statute of limitations?) needed 
a new crush washer for the oil drain plug for his 1968 MGB (new at the 
time).  Said currency fit the bill perfectly and was still working when 
the car was sold with 110,000 miles on the clock.  Still mostly copper 
in 1968.
Evad  (sorry Derf)  :-)

On 12/22/2012 4:58 AM, EASTJONES alan wrote:
>   I well remember my father going out to buy some , what we call 'penny
> washers' i.e. oversized outside diameter. . He came home furious and
> proceeded to drill 3/16" holes in the pennies he had taken to pay for them
> as it worked cheaper to do so and used them as washers on a vintage
> motorcyle that is still going strong today. Legally he could have sent to
> the Tower of London for this treasonous act, but he is long gone now
> wreaking havoc and fixing mechanical things in heaven .
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From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman@gmail.com>
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Speaking of this, I recently saw that the US Mint is contemplating changing
the alloy used to make pennies.  It seems it now costs $.02 to make penny.
When the micro-micro chips first came out a few years back there had been
talk about putting them into coins to try to catch offenders like Evad.
LOL!

Merry Christmas to all and to all a Good Grief!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 12:04 PM, dwoerpel <dwoerpel@wi.net> wrote:

> I remember a certain fellow (what's the statute of limitations?) needed a
> new crush washer for the oil drain plug for his 1968 MGB (new at the time).
>  Said currency fit the bill perfectly and was still working when the car
> was sold with 110,000 miles on the clock.  Still mostly copper in 1968.
> Evad  (sorry Derf)  :-)
>
>
> On 12/22/2012 4:58 AM, EASTJONES alan wrote:
>
>>   I well remember my father going out to buy some , what we call 'penny
>> washers' i.e. oversized outside diameter. . He came home furious and
>> proceeded to drill 3/16" holes in the pennies he had taken to pay for them
>> as it worked cheaper to do so and used them as washers on a vintage
>> motorcyle that is still going strong today. Legally he could have sent to
>> the Tower of London for this treasonous act, but he is long gone now
>> wreaking havoc and fixing mechanical things in heaven .
>>
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Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
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exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the
public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate
promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because
of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a
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Almost there...Finished the third slot on the second rotor.

It appears that the surplus, gear reduced, drive motor that I had puchased
may years ago for $60
was probably NOT designed to spin a 6" diameter, 3/16" saw blade, through
almost 2" of aircraft 
grade aluminum.

She's starting to make some unhappy noises now.  Sort of an nasty
backlashing sound coming from what I
presume are the "planeteries".  I've re-filled the lube in the gear box with
some extra thick "STP like" 
oil additive I had laying around with the hope that this might help "cushion
the blows" - or so to speak.

I think it is the case that I will be very lucky if I am able to complete
the final slot on the second rotor.

I'm going to keen up the blade with my diamond stone, take very shallow
cuts, and hope for the best.
This final slot may take much longer than the 1.5 hours the others took.

So it is with the way of these things.  The almost perfect combination of a
variety of complex interplays,
taking years in coming together, for a few moments, and then suddenly a link
in the chain breaks and all is lost. 
  
Wish me luck, and to you all, have a great holiday!
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Hey it's snowing here in Pennsylvannia... 
http://tinyurl.com/cqoly87

Slot chip snow. Thought I'd show you the mess that all this makes.

The last slot has been cut.  Yeeha.  

A little lesson learned (if you are ever doing something like this).  
Apply STP to the sides of the saw blade.  It creates a hydrodynamic damper 
that helps reduce chatter.  Made a big difference.

I have one more operation that I am going to do with the big saw.
I'm going to mill a tiny amount of the outside edge of the slot.
On the worn out rotor this sharp edge would dig into the back side of the
vane.
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Good Grief is right!  :-)   It's the Season!  or Jim's in
season. ;-()

Anyway,  HEALTH, a WEALTH of car parts, and
HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL!!

All the best to everyone in 2012.

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you mean 2013 don't you?

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Good Grief is right! B :-) B  It's the Season! B or Jim's in
season. ;-()

Anyway, B HEALTH, a WEALTH of car parts, and
HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL!!

All the best to everyone in 2012.

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i
 
 
 
I wonder what it cost & where you can buy one?
 
Vigil


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From: WFO Herb <froggi60@gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] Amazing Mechanic chair
To: "Wedge List" <tr8@mercury.lcs.mit.edu>, "Spridgeteers"
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, December 21, 2012, 7:48 PM


Ever seen these?

I want one!

http://acidcow.com/video/40867-amazing_mechanic_chair.html



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This coating is typically used to coat the feed barrles of injection molding
equipment. They do not want the material sticking as its fed into the molds.
The low friction really appealed to me in combination with the torlon. My goal
was to reduce the heat because these superchargers were known to overheat. So
far I seem to have achived the goal.



It's beenB  a while since this was done. But, I'm thinking it was around $
300.00 for the coating. Also, I did have the bore machined prior to the
coating to make sure it was true.

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I havenbt noticed any wear issues with the bore of my unit. B 

I had honed it out some time ago and onceB  it had broken in, the bore took

onB  a polish and ha s remained this way ever since.

B 

I believe the orginal vane material has much to do with how the bore wears.

B 

But I am intrigued by the low friction aspect of the coating.

How much does it cost to coat the bore in the ZN54?


From: kramer.allen@comcast.net [mailto:kramer.allen@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, December 21, 2012 12:02 PM
To: derf
Cc: Spridgets; Dean Hedin
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How it's made. Episode 498 Judson Rotor.





It's been awhile since I have been on the list. However, I thought I would
update how my Judson SC has been running. The unit has approx. 3000 miles on
it and is still performing very well. I have been adding 1 oz of Miracle to 1
gal of gas. Not having any overheating issues.

The unit has Torlon 4435 bladesB The housing bore treatedB with ECAT's thin
film wear resistant coating ZN54. The specs on the coating are 3000
microhardness, .06 coefficient of friction, 2-5 microns coating thickness,
1560 F max. working temperature.B 

One of these days I plan to tear it down to see how the inside is wearing. I
think a good point would be 5000 miles.

B 

Merry Christmas

Allen



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From: "derf" <derf247@gmail.com>
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When I had my Judson I contemplated coating the inside surface with Teflon
or Ceramic or something to help with friction.
Never got around to doing it, though.
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http://tinyurl.com/cl4tu2y ' Anything can happen in the next half hour'
R.I.P. Gerry, His programmes were an influential part of my childhood and
probably influenced my interest in all thing mechanical, Thunderbirds are
go  F.A.B.
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I was 9 years old when Joe 90 was on TV.  I think I prefer Captain  Scarlet 
to Thunderbirds though we have box sets of Joe 90, Captain Scarlet,  
Thunderbirds and UFO (both series).  You see some of the programmes and  realise 
he was years ahead of his time with some ideas.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
In a message dated 27/12/2012 11:28:20 Coordinated Universal Time,  
alan.east-jones@ntlworld.com writes:

http://tinyurl.com/cl4tu2y ' Anything can happen in the next half  hour'
R.I.P. Gerry, His programmes were an influential part of my childhood  and
probably influenced my interest in all thing mechanical, Thunderbirds  are
go  F.A.B.
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Big influnece on me too.  Thunderbirds and especially the U.F.O series.

-----Original Message-----
From: EASTJONES alan
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 6:28 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] NLBC Gerry Anderson RIP

http://tinyurl.com/cl4tu2y ' Anything can happen in the next half hour'
R.I.P. Gerry, His programmes were an influential part of my childhood and
probably influenced my interest in all thing mechanical, Thunderbirds are go
F.A.B.
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As a few of you may know I have been remodeling / rebuilding the bathroom
in my 86 year old home - since July.
Ok, I am not fast. Granted.
This has been a weekends only job for the most part and has included
rebuilding the superstructure as well as the internal workings.
Yesterday I connected the hot and cold supplies and the drain to our new
shower alcove, which is now about 90% finished.
I ran both lines open into a 5 gallon bucket before connecting and noticed
I have a lot less pressure on the hot side that I have on the cold side.
I also see this at the kitchen sink and the bathroom vanity.
This home is all electric so I have the big 50 gallon hot water tank
located between the bath and the kitchen.

Last August I attached a hose to the bottom of the tank and drained it and
saw a lot of white material draining out with the water.

Could the pressure problem be due to having deposits in the tank or at the
output side of the tank? If so how do I fix this?

Is there something else I could try or examine to find the cause of this
problem?

It's such a simple system I really don't see a lot that could go wrong here.
Of course I have a combination of newer copper pipes and older steel pipes,
and I know the steel could be getting rusty inside, however the cold supply
to the new shower is steel and has full pressure.

Thanks, this group is the most knowledgeable group I know of so that is why
I am asking the question here.

BTW my Midget is back on the road after BillM sent me a replacement drive
shaft with all new replaceable U-joints. My Datsun shaft finally hit end of
life.

Rick (Need More Power - er Pressure) Bastedo
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I once asked a plumber what kind of job he did most often.  He told it was
fixing the homeowner amateur plumber's mistakes and half finished jobs. I like
to save money too, but maybe it's time to call in the experts.
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2
02 Heritage Springer

--- On Fri, 12/28/12, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Rick Bastedo <rbastedo@gmail.com>
Subject: [Spridgets] REALLY OT - plumbing question
To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, December 28, 2012, 7:44 PM

As a few of you may know I have been remodeling / rebuilding the bathroom
in my 86 year old home - since July.
Ok, I am not fast. Granted.
This has been a weekends only job for the most part and has included
rebuilding the superstructure as well as the internal workings.
Yesterday I connected the hot and cold supplies and the drain to our new
shower alcove, which is now about 90% finished.
I ran both lines open into a 5 gallon bucket before connecting and noticed
I have a lot less pressure on the hot side that I have on the cold side.
I also see this at the kitchen sink and the bathroom vanity.
This home is all electric so I have the big 50 gallon hot water tank
located between the bath and the kitchen.

Last August I attached a hose to the bottom of the tank and drained it and
saw a lot of white material draining out with the water.

Could the pressure problem be due to having deposits in the tank or at the
output side of the tank? If so how do I fix this?

Is there something else I could try or examine to find the cause of this
problem?

It's such a simple system I really don't see a lot that could go wrong here.
Of course I have a combination of newer copper pipes and older steel pipes,
and I know the steel could be getting rusty inside, however the cold supply
to the new shower is steel and has full pressure.

Thanks, this group is the most knowledgeable group I know of so that is why
I am asking the question here.

BTW my Midget is back on the road after BillM sent me a replacement drive
shaft with all new replaceable U-joints. My Datsun shaft finally hit end of
life.

Rick (Need More Power - er Pressure) Bastedo
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Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 15:36:43 -0600
From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Spridgets] REALLY OT - plumbing question
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Isn't that one of those deals like $45 an hour if I come fix it - $100 an
hour if I'm cleaning up your mistakes....

Cheers!!
Jim

On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>wrote:

> I once asked a plumber what kind of job he did most often.  He told it was
> fixing the homeowner amateur plumber's mistakes and half finished jobs. I
> like
> to save money too, but maybe it's time to call in the experts.
> Mike MacLean
> 60 Sprite
> 56 BN2
> 02 Heritage Springer
>
> --- On Fri, 12/28/12, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Rick Bastedo <rbastedo@gmail.com>
> Subject: [Spridgets] REALLY OT - plumbing question
> To: "Spridgets" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Date: Friday, December 28, 2012, 7:44 PM
>
> As a few of you may know I have been remodeling / rebuilding the bathroom
> in my 86 year old home - since July.
> Ok, I am not fast. Granted.
> This has been a weekends only job for the most part and has included
> rebuilding the superstructure as well as the internal workings.
> Yesterday I connected the hot and cold supplies and the drain to our new
> shower alcove, which is now about 90% finished.
> I ran both lines open into a 5 gallon bucket before connecting and noticed
> I have a lot less pressure on the hot side that I have on the cold side.
> I also see this at the kitchen sink and the bathroom vanity.
> This home is all electric so I have the big 50 gallon hot water tank
> located between the bath and the kitchen.
>
> Last August I attached a hose to the bottom of the tank and drained it and
> saw a lot of white material draining out with the water.
>
> Could the pressure problem be due to having deposits in the tank or at the
> output side of the tank? If so how do I fix this?
>
> Is there something else I could try or examine to find the cause of this
> problem?
>
> It's such a simple system I really don't see a lot that could go wrong
> here.
> Of course I have a combination of newer copper pipes and older steel pipes,
> and I know the steel could be getting rusty inside, however the cold supply
> to the new shower is steel and has full pressure.
>
> Thanks, this group is the most knowledgeable group I know of so that is why
> I am asking the question here.
>
> BTW my Midget is back on the road after BillM sent me a replacement drive
> shaft with all new replaceable U-joints. My Datsun shaft finally hit end of
> life.
>
> Rick (Need More Power - er Pressure) Bastedo
> ------------------------
>
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Jim Johnson
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High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
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Yup.  I stay plenty busy!!
bmwwxman@gmail.com
 "A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only
exist until the majority discovers it can vote itself largess out of the
public treasury. After that, the majority always votes for the candidate
promising the most benefits with the result the democracy collapses because
of the loose fiscal policy ensuing, always to be followed by a
dictatorship, then a monarchy."                                   -  Alexis
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From: Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net>
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2012 17:34:49 -0500
To: "rbastedo@gmail.com" <rbastedo@gmail.com>
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How old is the water heater?  White stuff coming out of the drain sounds like
it's clogged up internally with calcium deposits.  Unfortunately the best fix
is probably a new water heater.  :-(

Rck

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On Dec 28, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo@gmail.com> wrote:

> As a few of you may know I have been remodeling / rebuilding the bathroom
> in my 86 year old home - since July.
> Ok, I am not fast. Granted.
> This has been a weekends only job for the most part and has included
> rebuilding the superstructure as well as the internal workings.
> Yesterday I connected the hot and cold supplies and the drain to our new
> shower alcove, which is now about 90% finished.
> I ran both lines open into a 5 gallon bucket before connecting and noticed
> I have a lot less pressure on the hot side that I have on the cold side.
> I also see this at the kitchen sink and the bathroom vanity.
> This home is all electric so I have the big 50 gallon hot water tank
> located between the bath and the kitchen.
>
> Last August I attached a hose to the bottom of the tank and drained it and
> saw a lot of white material draining out with the water.
>
> Could the pressure problem be due to having deposits in the tank or at the
> output side of the tank? If so how do I fix this?
>
> Is there something else I could try or examine to find the cause of this
> problem?
>
> It's such a simple system I really don't see a lot that could go wrong
here.
> Of course I have a combination of newer copper pipes and older steel pipes,
> and I know the steel could be getting rusty inside, however the cold supply
> to the new shower is steel and has full pressure.
>
> Thanks, this group is the most knowledgeable group I know of so that is why
> I am asking the question here.
>
> BTW my Midget is back on the road after BillM sent me a replacement drive
> shaft with all new replaceable U-joints. My Datsun shaft finally hit end of
> life.
>
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Hi all,

Hope everyone is having a wonderful holiday season this year.  Lambert and I
are in need of new car covers for our Midgets again.  We have purchased the
Wolf Car covers and they seem to deteriorate quite fast.  Does anyone have a
cover that they have bought that they absolutely love?  We are just trying to
figure out what may be the better ones out there vs the crap ones :-)

Thanks,

Kristi


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Hi Kristi,

I have a few Antique cars and have had good luck with California Car Covers 
as a brand, I don't know if they have one to fit a spridget because my 
Bugeye is not ready for a cover yet. Heck, it's not even ready to paint.

Jim F.
32 Ford coupe
41 Ford Pickup
50 Mercury Sled
60 VW Beetle

-----Original Message----- 
From: Kristi & Lambert
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2012 6:12 PM
To: Spridget List
Subject: [Spridgets] Car Covers

Hi all,

Hope everyone is having a wonderful holiday season this year.  Lambert and I
are in need of new car covers for our Midgets again.  We have purchased the
Wolf Car covers and they seem to deteriorate quite fast.  Does anyone have a
cover that they have bought that they absolutely love?  We are just trying 
to
figure out what may be the better ones out there vs the crap ones :-)

Thanks,

Kristi


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'74 RWA Midget
'77 RB Midget
Philadelphia MG Club Treasurer
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Got this from linda on Facebook: 

Thank you all so much for your prayers for little Frankie 5. He had surgery today to remove an abscess from his lung and it was very successful. He does not need a breathing tube and they did it laparoscopically at Jersey Shore. When he woke up he asked for his bear, what a little trooper. 
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From: Rick Bastedo <rbastedo@gmail.com>
To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] REALLY OT - plumbing question
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Thanks to everyone who emailed and called.
I guess next to the LBC this community has a lot to say about plumbing!

I started out by removing the feed and output lines from the hot water tank.
Visually everything looked fine.
I connected a hose to the drain and drained the tank (all after turning off
the big fat breaker of course).
There was zero sediment this time, the hot water all emptied out clean and
clear.

Thinking (and answering emails) while this was draining I decided next to
get a ball valve and some compression fittings and put a valve on the inlet
side of the WH.
After completing this I was able to turn house water back on, much to the
delight of my family.

Next I looked at the 3/4 inch nipple coming out of the hot side and
wondered if a garden hose would fit - as some of you already know it does
fit exactly.
So I connected my drain hose to the Hot side nipple and turned off the
drain valve, then opened the cold inlet side and let the tank fill.
Once it filled I found very good pressure exiting the back door via my
garden hose.
So - no restriction in the WH.

Next I hooked up the WH completely and turned it back on, of course there
was the obligatory clean up from all the water I had let escape while I
wasn't looking and I have to publicly praise my better half as she dug
right in and helped me with the resulting sea of water that used to be her
laundry room.

Next I decided to take a closer look at the kitchen sink, having turned on
the water in the bathroom vanity and having found very good pressure there.
The kitchen sink had even less pressure than before, and what had been only
the hot side was now both hot and cold trickling out with the valves wide
open.

So I took it apart.

When I got back from Lowe's with the really nice pretty Delta kitchen
faucet it was a simple matter of refitting is the reverse of removal.

I am happy to report the problem is solved.

So - again I thank you all and this issue is done and done!

(Still have to get the shower finished, but that's just grouting the
ceiling, attaching the shower panel. calking and installing the 60" x 72"
shower door.
Childs play compared to today!

Rick (feelin' the pressure once again) Bastedo


On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Rick Bastedo <rbastedo@gmail.com> wrote:

> As a few of you may know I have been remodeling / rebuilding the bathroom
> in my 86 year old home - since July.
> Ok, I am not fast. Granted...
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From: Bob Kitterer <bkitterer@me.com>
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This did not seem to go through the first time, if it did sorry for the repeat.

You may want to try www.bigskycarcovers.com and look at the Covercraft product line.  Many vintage car folks here use to get their covers from North Coast a local company which closed it's doors five years or so back.  I have not personally used Big Sky  but when a number of folks here have.  As far as I know they are pleased with the product.  


Bob and Dolores

1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes

On Dec 28, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Kristi & Lambert wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> Hope everyone is having a wonderful holiday season this year.  Lambert and I
> are in need of new car covers for our Midgets again.  We have purchased the
> Wolf Car covers and they seem to deteriorate quite fast.  Does anyone have a
> cover that they have bought that they absolutely love?  We are just trying to
> figure out what may be the better ones out there vs the crap ones :-)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kristi
> 
> 
> Kristi & Lambert
> '74 RWA Midget
> '77 RB Midget
> Philadelphia MG Club Treasurer
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Explain to me (and others on the list)

How are rally stopwatches used?
Why are there usually two and why are there two diferent kinds of
stopwatches?
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This is the equipment. Someone else will explain. I've seen these boards
with three watches in the 1950's.
http://www.cjbalm.com/auto-aero/mitem283.htm

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[mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin
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Subject: [Spridgets] Rally Stopwatches

Explain to me (and others on the list)

How are rally stopwatches used?
Why are there usually two and why are there two different kinds of
stopwatches?
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Do you want to have an overall time, a combined time, stage time, split time 
or what?
One of the main purposes is to time yourself so you can verify the official 
times.
Frequently used in combination with your Halda trip meter 
(http://www.haldaman.com/halda3.html).

Guy R Day

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> Explain to me (and others on the list)
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> How are rally stopwatches used?
> Why are there usually two and why are there two different kinds of
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The boards with 3 watches were for Motorsport and often had a bar integral  
to the board that allowed all the watches to be started or stopped at  
once.  For example to record every lap time you'd need a minimum of 2  watches.
 
Weslake-Monza 1330
 
 
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I've  seen these boards
with three watches in the  1950's.
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<< On 12/23/2012 9:10 PM, ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net wrote:

you mean 2013 don't you? >>

NOT in Dave's "case", Ryan !

							He is STILL working on 2011 ! ! !

Or is it 2010, Dave ? ? ?

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<< On 12/23/2012 9:10 PM, ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net wrote:

you mean 2013 don't you? >>

NOT in Dave's "case", Ryan !

							He is STILL working
on 2011 ! ! !

Or is it 2010, Dave ? ? ?

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In the USA rallies were/are time, distance, speed (TDS) events.  The total distance is broken up into legs and it should take you a particular amount of time to do the leg.  However, you do not know the distance for the leg nor where the leg will end.  You also do not know what route you will be taking, you are handed instructions less than a minute prior to your departure.  The instructions are not the type that you can look at a map to determine where you are going, at least for the rallies I'v done.  They also indicate a that when you get to a certain point what average speed to maintain.

Now to the stop watches, I am familiar with three watch boards.  There was one watch for total time, started at the beginning of the leg. One was the time for the current average speed.  The third was the ending time for the last average speed section and for any specified stop times.  These along with the instructions were all handled by the navigator who was also constantly doing calculations to determine if you "were on time" or not so the driver could correct their speed.  By the way he was doing these calculations with a slide rule and using the dual Odometers for those who were really serious about these events.

For those not familiar with TDS rallies the difference between the time it took you to do a leg and the it should have taken is your "error", early or late and can not be made up.  The error for all legs are added up and the lowest error wins.

At least that's the way it was in this neighborhood.

On Dec 29, 2012, at 8:13 PM, Dean Hedin wrote:

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> How are rally stopwatches used?
> Why are there usually two and why are there two diferent kinds of
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Up in Orange County we called them "TSD" rallies.  Time, Speed, and Distance.
:-)  Usually run by the local SCCA club.

I ran in a bunch of them back in the 70's, best finish ever was a 3rd place.
Never bothered with stopwatches.  Lot of fun, but girlfriend/navigator and I
were usually not talking to each other by the end of a rally.  "LEFT in 1.267
miles at 22 MPH".  I meant "RIGHT".  Yeah, but you said LEFT!  On and on all
evening.  LOL

Rick

Sent from my keyboard

On Dec 30, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Kitterer Bob <bkitterer@me.com> wrote:

> In the USA rallies were/are time, distance, speed (TDS) events.  The total
distance is broken up into legs and it should take you a particular amount of
time to do the leg.  However, you do not know the distance for the leg nor
where the leg will end.  You also do not know what route you will be taking,
you are handed instructions less than a minute prior to your departure.  The
instructions are not the type that you can look at a map to determine where
you are going, at least for the rallies I'v done.  They also indicate a that
when you get to a certain point what average speed to maintain.
>
> Now to the stop watches, I am familiar with three watch boards.  There was
one watch for total time, started at the beginning of the leg. One was the
time for the current average speed.  The third was the ending time for the
last average speed section and for any specified stop times.  These along with
the instructions were all handled by the navigator who was also constantly
doing calculations to determine if you "were on time" or not so the driver
could correct their speed.  By the way he was doing these calculations with a
slide rule and using the dual Odometers for those who were really serious
about these events.
>
> For those not familiar with TDS rallies the difference between the time it
took you to do a leg and the it should have taken is your "error", early or
late and can not be made up.  The error for all legs are added up and the
lowest error wins.
>
> At least that's the way it was in this neighborhood.
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Last I heard little Frankie 5 s on the mend but it will take a while before
he can get home. Santa is still waiting for him to have a real Christmas : )
Lets all pray he can get home soon,
Lin


On Fri, Dec 28, 2012 at 9:16 PM, <ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net> wrote:

> Got this from linda on Facebook:
>
> Thank you all so much for your prayers for little Frankie 5. He had
> surgery today to remove an abscess from his lung and it was very
> successful. He does not need a breathing tube and they did it
> laparoscopically at Jersey Shore. When he woke up he asked for his bear,
> what a little trooper.
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(verbose)

Generally, the most famous twin mounted timepiece was the Halda Speedpilot
with the Heuer rallye set also popular. One timepiece was a stopwatch that
read in 1/100 minutes, rather than seconds. The other was a clock that read
time of day and is not a stopwatch.

If you have two stopwatches mounted on a plate, that would be used for
racing. One is used to measure lap time the other can be used for overall
race time, or so your pit crew can watch the guy in your mirror.

For a rally, you synchronize the time of day clock to the official time of
the rallymaster. The stop watch is basically to keep track of how fast you
are going. If you go 1/2 mile in 60 seconds, you are going 30 miles an
hour. Not exactly rocket science, but try going exactly 1/2 mile in exactly
60 seconds. The navigator is usually a very busy person.

My rally computer <http://www.rally.cc/> would measure distance to 1/1000
of a mile (roughly 5.25 feet), so you get a pretty accurate measurement.
Rallyes are timed to 1/100 minute, and you receive a penalty point for
every 1/100 minute early or late to a checkpoint. It is much easier to do
the math using 1/100 minute over seconds (or 10ths of seconds).

Example - One leg of a rally is 8.449 miles long and the average speed
assigned is 24 MPH. It should take you EXACTLY 2.84 minutes to complete
that leg, but you don't know how long the leg is so you have to stay at the
assigned average speed. The average speed can change in the middle of a leg
as well.

If you come in to the checkpoint at 2.86, you get a 2 point penalty. Top
rallyes rarely assign more than a coupla points to the best participants
over a hundred miles and 10 to 20 checkpoints.

A very accurate stopwatch lets you quickly calculate how fast you are going
so you can stay at the assigned average speed. Any variance has to be made
up before you get to a checkpoint, but you don't know where they are.

If you try this, please add a Stevens Rallye Indicator to complete your
equipment. It is a circular, analog calculator that takes your odometer
error into account for your measurements. Using a Stevens and a Halda will
keep you in a vintage rally class.

(/verbose)

Hope this helps.

 Allen Hefner
Former Phila. Region SCCA Rally Steward (retired)

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget


On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001@comcast.net> wrote:

> Explain to me (and others on the list)
>
> How are rally stopwatches used?
> Why are there usually two and why are there two diferent kinds of
> stopwatches?
> ------------------------
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I've had Big Sky covers for 3 vehicles, and I wouldn't go elsewhere. I had one
custom made fort Lotus 18 years ago (Lord, I'm old) and I still use it for an
outdoor ill-fitting tarp on an old BMW. I currently have an Evolution (4, I
think) that I am very happy with.

Best, and happy New Year to all.

Ron



On Dec 29, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Bob Kitterer <bkitterer@me.com> wrote:

> This did not seem to go through the first time, if it did sorry for the
repeat.
>
> You may want to try www.bigskycarcovers.com and look at the Covercraft
product line.  Many vintage car folks here use to get their covers from North
Coast a local company which closed it's doors five years or so back.  I have
not personally used Big Sky  but when a number of folks here have.  As far as
I know they are pleased with the product.
>
>
> Bob and Dolores
>
> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
>
> On Dec 28, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Kristi & Lambert wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Hope everyone is having a wonderful holiday season this year.  Lambert and
I
>> are in need of new car covers for our Midgets again.  We have purchased
the
>> Wolf Car covers and they seem to deteriorate quite fast.  Does anyone have
a
>> cover that they have bought that they absolutely love?  We are just trying
to
>> figure out what may be the better ones out there vs the crap ones :-)
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Kristi
>>
>>
>> Kristi & Lambert
>> '74 RWA Midget
>> '77 RB Midget
>> Philadelphia MG Club Treasurer
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I've used Covercraft, I mean it keeps the rain and bird poo off.

Lester


On Dec 31, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Ron Soave <soavero@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I've had Big Sky covers for 3 vehicles, and I wouldn't go elsewhere. I had
one
> custom made fort Lotus 18 years ago (Lord, I'm old) and I still use it for
an
> outdoor ill-fitting tarp on an old BMW. I currently have an Evolution (4, I
> think) that I am very happy with.
>
> Best, and happy New Year to all.
>
> Ron
>
>
>
> On Dec 29, 2012, at 12:29 PM, Bob Kitterer <bkitterer@me.com> wrote:
>
>> This did not seem to go through the first time, if it did sorry for the
> repeat.
>>
>> You may want to try www.bigskycarcovers.com and look at the Covercraft
> product line.  Many vintage car folks here use to get their covers from
North
> Coast a local company which closed it's doors five years or so back.  I
have
> not personally used Big Sky  but when a number of folks here have.  As far
as
> I know they are pleased with the product.
>>
>>
>> Bob and Dolores
>>
>> 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise)
>> 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2012, at 3:12 PM, Kristi & Lambert wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Hope everyone is having a wonderful holiday season this year.  Lambert
and
> I
>>> are in need of new car covers for our Midgets again.  We have purchased
> the
>>> Wolf Car covers and they seem to deteriorate quite fast.  Does anyone
have
> a
>>> cover that they have bought that they absolutely love?  We are just
trying
> to
>>> figure out what may be the better ones out there vs the crap ones :-)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Kristi
>>>
>>>
>>> Kristi & Lambert
>>> '74 RWA Midget
>>> '77 RB Midget
>>> Philadelphia MG Club Treasurer
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Best to you all this year!

Lester


On Dec 31, 2012, at 4:41 PM, dwoerpel@wi.net wrote:

> Wishing everyone a very healthy and HAPPY 2013!  (hey, Ed, I got it
> right!)
>
> Dave W.
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To all:
Just heard from Frankie this afternoon(12/31).  Frankie
V's drain tube came out today and the little man is scheduled to go home
Wednesday.  Praying that is the case.

Dave W.



> Last I heard little Frankie 5 s on the mend but it will
take a while
> before
> he can get home. Santa is still
waiting for him to have a real Christmas :
> )
> Lets all
pray he can get home soon,
> Lin
> 
> 
>
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wrote:
> 
>> Got this from linda on Facebook:
>>
>> Thank you all so much for your prayers for little
Frankie 5. He had
>> surgery today to remove an abscess from
his lung and it was very
>> successful. He does not need a
breathing tube and they did it
>> laparoscopically at Jersey
Shore. When he woke up he asked for his bear,
>> what a little
trooper.
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> To all:
> Just heard from Frankie this afternoon(12/31).  Frankie
> V's drain tube came out today and the little man is scheduled to go home
> Wednesday.  Praying that is the case.
>
I'm with you on that one.

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<< On 12/31/2012 7:33 PM, Lester wrote:
> Best to you all this year!  >>

I'm with Lester;  Happy New Year to All ! ! ! ! ! !

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I wish everyone a Happy New Year filled with many fond memories and friends. 
Myself, I will piloting a 9000 ton train from Los Angeles to Barstow,
California when the clock strikes midnight.  Nothing new to me, but it sure
keeps me out of trouble.  Good luck tp all in the next year.
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Can't "steer" ya wrong there, Mike !

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<< On 12/31/2012 10:33 PM, dwoerpel@wi.net wrote:
> Praying that is the case. >>
Agreed ! !

But he'll prob'ly be out on the wards fixing incubators, O.R. 
Stretchers, Juvvy Wheel Chairs, etc., etc.,
shortly since he follows in his Grand Dads footsteps ! ! ! <VBG>

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As we say on the railroad, all an engineer needs to know is "ahead, back up
and stop".  Steering is easy, it goes like it's on rails. ;^)
Mike MacLean

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<< On 12/31/2012 11:11 PM, Michael MacLean wrote:
> but it sure keeps me out of trouble. >>

Can't "steer" ya wrong there, Mike !

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