From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 2 13:03:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF7D42BDD for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 13:03:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com (mail-wg0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C9DC42BAC for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 13:00:04 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id 12so2150708wgh.3 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 11:54:59 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=TXwt8/WQk1Avx/riM6oDFsyZIKL7ZkOJamImRjvyGeE=; b=RM6RluLy3aCThdEnStTVcQffV1Ei8/SwNLJgPAQrZIj/Aq6Pvf+nXAIUPHIlDSy3rZ JJBL5bktOVeKFKk6/2R/23P6LTK/LlxwNku84sGxQwL2sHRdsFGemVM133VXYn74O0Sc 8NaX2JRoAQ7KePKqqjPF+YqzothE8o9ep3OlQTdgDPqBOZNaIHRMGOiyuIvptPF5Dhw/ 35EUVPIYu/X0LbrWgeochojl3ehS3BzNvKdL9Cl1MxPJYxeOgqOwfaYvCTJvFdvQ500/ YsBzPx60XdcNm9snqKKLmxOZOAZ5w5dxINt8yQ/qLUcU+wxHdzdp464H3PsR6oARlBvJ CkNg== r2mr3514004wia.28.1359834899034; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 11:54:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.134.105 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 11:54:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 13:54:58 -0600 From: CosmicMag1380 To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] For You Left Coasters... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/3588670240.html -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 2 17:59:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D50F42BF4 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 17:59:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770F6422A1 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 17:59:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta21.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.72]) by qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vcKA1k0041ZXKqc51cuUC0; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 00:54:28 +0000 Received: from sz0111.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta21.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vcuU1k00H2ymm843hcuUvz; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 00:54:28 +0000 Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 00:54:28 +0000 (UTC) From: ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net To: EasternOshitGroup , spridgets (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) s=q20121106; t=1359852868; bh=0fcOzFwJJdpBCwVwIC8vUCMJCSfguYbP6ihlDuPEdAs=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=WZ/dMn9vsXOk/zVfXlikmmTwYRaRbUoUXeGeQA7xrMX728Vfv+U3WU6QyhgglShWM zYtjRrQ7EEOE++MDTjGSkSJTZc2nlLUZH0NZPJQlHcMSmemBmoyELU5U3bsxNy8BZ3 Tjrx4Wqjukmozmrn1mYFAERgXdyB9klfxrdIbJ2Y0QHSJRRF0DveqZji146ihU1GGJ qpprRHUcjnP0bgn6MzYnW80gm7a//Y5d5+v7nbu2uj0FicQQEtKxvmpMaGI1pZ15Y1 dVk4NpPb1v0K9Y1CyWBOwGcwiXO1AOH0E0QIIntk2ta4ctmQhHdOYR1FH+Y8udAXf5 ufqhicany1PGw== Subject: [Spridgets] Light for oil and temp gauge Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Years ago the first time I brought my barely running 74 midget to Frank he replaced my stock '74 dual oil and water gauge wiht another one.B But the other one, he told m e, had a different lighting system and so my stockB lights wouldn't work.B At that time I didn't care he took what was a very scary driving car and turned it into my ever present perma- shit eatin- grin application device.B But now some 5? years later I would like to see what that gauge says at night or at least eliminate the very noticible dark spot on my dash. So my question is what do you think he put in there and how can i get it to light up? Thanks ryan and yes I know I could just buy from someone on the list another gauge but the fear of buying one that has had the magic fluid l eaked out is a concern. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 2 18:15:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDCE42CD3 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 18:15:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f169.google.com (mail-ea0-f169.google.com [209.85.215.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 570F9422A1 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 18:12:55 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ea0-f169.google.com with SMTP id d13so2322329eaa.0 for ; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 17:07:49 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=x6BLVmt1RteklLfwR7GUCYm+E4KJRfaBlFseH0PGbkI=; b=D9cujM4OjuJwzHvxEew4NjSAhjCmg3MdlryxdDd5M/VEKmmJfMX4p0rG3tq5R4kvA8 XiSNs9Bwwu3hgvikVtTsnY2csNpFHVf7SrMaj4CPoFOHCYT63hAifcOSJ7jPI2v6/pPU fcPCkIay903fdPP1vLDoeKbhl5B3rbG9b/fUPU9Y3f9Qcsa2GR54YMw5OVJyapqecTry Ur5TYsPzb/NlfNcEc4jwqBqv+fg15aijG5RLBTxd4pDNRr1INUG7vhvbt0cZNDq2/Ugt S0c74/34c+4ewy0A8yCHOVdOivZx6iTFDuf0PASnP8gMoHj+jLYJOkLco+xjqMIUbdcj r0Xw== b5mr41159685eem.37.1359853669307; Sat, 02 Feb 2013 17:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.144.76 with HTTP; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 17:07:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 19:07:49 -0600 From: Brad Fornal To: Spridget list , midgetsprite@yahoo.com, Yahoo Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Little Car, but no LBC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Any UK or Canadian listers have any knowledge of the Mercedes Smart diesel? One has ended up in Texas, and I want to ask some questions about the engine, dependability, etc... TIA, Brad -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 2 18:45:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B32E42D12 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 18:45:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E347242276 for ; Sat, 2 Feb 2013 18:39:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.90]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vc9A1k0041wpRvQ53daaWl; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 01:34:34 +0000 Received: from blackbox2 ([69.253.143.59]) by omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vdaZ1k00n1H6MAV3edaZrt; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 01:34:34 +0000 From: "Dean Hedin" To: , "'EasternOshitGroup'" , "'spridgets'" References: <1331099069.731371.1359852868216.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 20:34:26 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4BqQoMzHpivhu4QOGQ1hncxziafAABKsSg s=q20121106; t=1359855274; bh=o2qtRC9I2qTpA1PXsvNpU0VeAobb+vn8gkFjnTTkwQc=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=SRmIK32+kx4apF4rTOFD3q4uFY3iBoB6H4JXb7kqFW7F1x4uBE2iXbGX5KqTMGA6x Ajmbrg+VALJdCb64U/BpszhsAiUMCWVsPpRaLBB2/O+xzaU0oWPnew6i7gJddYkzOo 0O51I/7r2JDCuMoWZVCSwk3cC2iqHhiiBgzjC3+IBv0cVZ6divA+G0ZcfMxrQC8s2F 0uZJhxZ1CikBA58nwJR6bptrOqxSz+GHw3g28Dw7NfGiM4DeBmEQgiuzebVkcNGxxu s+wyDH2KJnU2BPOzkDoiNbErF0hJzBnga8R1r9hF5f+noAIav/Z1HfEeus/zn8ezdL 3DM/mmvo9V87g== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Light for oil and temp gauge Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Ryan, Assuming the Prince of Darkness is not holding some personal vendetta against you, then you should be able to get some kind of light going inside that guage. At the very least you could pull the gauge and drill a small hole in the back sufficient for a white LED with a current limiting resistor (about 500 ohms) in series with it. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 7:54 PM To: EasternOshitGroup; spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Light for oil and temp gauge Years ago the first time I brought my barely running 74 midget to Frank he replaced my stock '74 dual oil and water gauge wiht another one.B But the other one, he told m e, had a different lighting system and so my stockB lights wouldn't work.B At that time I didn't care he took what was a very scary driving car and turned it into my ever present perma- shit eatin- grin application device.B But now some 5? years later I would like to see what that gauge says at night or at least eliminate the very noticible dark spot on my dash. So my question is what do you think he put in there and how can i get it to light up? Thanks ryan ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 09:46:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D4242DDA for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 09:46:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f52.google.com (mail-wg0-f52.google.com [74.125.82.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A96F542471 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 09:36:47 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id 12so4035599wgh.31 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 08:31:36 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=BksmvTVf/yTE3C4uajeQ5yglEO2JWjJ1e6tqk2a9xl8=; b=e7TEGddmrhsRYu0+t0xfqhPIG3udMVSwvwbNkV1vtfdqNO70wb3qSXRv4u0aXwRXwQ xfcd/gsiLRTSonVuL6/m/1Xlj+lCfSLqzWVBxDvrwVGrr5kcZUS1R8HJSy+QHKA4Jq4X UF8PXbSh0qTRS/hGhLV6ziHW8lwhdKlOTBSxQI0nY4acYwzRt4ECc7S+iXzXSjcl9KH4 jedwUG2d24wV30H+tTkBAJxD2GwrEeoYmZ5zG91JHL5RC8y1RFBnw9kwCe8vR3/5VRL7 c34Q9HX/+PzYvwgO4ZrZs6oUonlFCmWM4rwjYMN1pgBrGsBdzOu9X1ky4g8JTqQ2SzlC wXvw== wo5mr30744340wjc.10.1359909096470; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 08:31:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.231.151 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 08:31:36 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 11:31:36 -0500 From: Linda Grunthaner To: Daniel Stapleton Cc: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] For Sale- my 1973 Midget project car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I agree is anyone on the list from the Dallas area that can help out Billy? The car looks very solid and those wheels look great Billy. Good luck either way. Lin On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 12:58 PM, wrote: > A 1275cc crank and rods are probably worth US$250 maybe a lot more so be > sure you get a realistic value for the car. > > However, its a pity you can't have an OSHIT to get the car back on the > road. > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > > In a message dated 31/01/2013 06:02:13 GMT Standard Time, > billyj@txjames.com writes: > > I've had this 1973 project car for about 4 years but I've been without > an income for the past few years and won't be able to complete it > anytime soon. > > This car was given to my father by one of his customers and sat behind > his shop for awhile. The previous owner said that the car was running > when they stopped driving it. I brought it home and started working on it. > > The car was complete when I got it except for a battery. Belts, hoses, > tires, exhaust, folding top cloth and seat upholstery are in bad > condition. I had the wheels sandblasted and repainted, and bought new > tires and tubes. I bought another pair of seats that had good > upholstery, some replacement carpet pieces and some spare tailights and > such. I took a lot of photographs of my disassembly so I could get the > wires and linkages and so forth back in place. The photos don t show the > hood but I have the hood and grille inside my house. > > I discovered that the engine would not rotate so I eventually pulled the > engine out and disassembled it. I found water on top of a couple of the > pistons and they were frozen in the cylinders. My plan was to either > bore the block and buy oversize rings and pistons, or find another block > and buy new standard pistons. > > The car is in my garage in Dallas. Email me off list if you have > questions or want more information or photos. I don't know what a proper > price is but I'll start at $500 OBRO. > > http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/bjd70/Cars/Dsc_0016b.jpg > > http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a370/bjd70/Cars/Dsc_0014b.jpg > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 10:31:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC13342E11 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 10:31:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f179.google.com (mail-we0-f179.google.com [74.125.82.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04490424C3 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 10:31:15 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-we0-f179.google.com with SMTP id x43so4274984wey.24 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 09:26:05 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=FtZlxasRsUQdO9XMGnHnGo0ElovzhM3d/TGgkQE6BQU=; b=eqK4tldJIk1yYz6xQVw5qOyKMdD1Pgrm6ohdl0v9W4d01DXEoz/2eHT57bMt4zzfe7 QQi1Dh7wmTnjSAuGzXAukUld69Dpk5X2uN5W6o/3SV40Cw98Pl+1f7GIvfZDerk6lngh I3zbOd+rJkRs82OLy7j9OdR790dEydecE9+y2/3BcMZN2GuBJLqA3MrParMh6UEvB7Um qLMjX4SkY8mDvxN7aEz3OCKJgx2PyaKAsNwf7O8Z2drFnVd3OIZio6AXsdoT+ZA1nC2d YpZy7izwsi+AP/qtHjQ9Qnd2jDq8jJAgADuLQe36sTy4I4RUAM2j77LfinaI6Q5Ed9u0 32tA== w2mr6363633wiz.30.1359912365188; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 09:26:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.231.151 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 09:26:05 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 12:26:05 -0500 From: Linda Grunthaner To: Gerard Cc: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Car shipping Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net My 62 Sprite Pinky arrived via DAS "Dependable Auto Shipper" or as Frank would probably say UASS for Undependable Auto ShipperS and the rear section under the boot was dented badly which Frank so kindly banged out with a hammer till I could work on it. They lost the front vintage California license plate and ripped off the exhaust pipe. Their insurance company came to look at it and said off the record that DAS transports thousands of cars and will not do anything about a small job like mine. I was so excited about the arrival of the car and my first eBay transport from Los Angeles I signed the receipt when she arrived instead of refusal which meant I had no chance at damage payment..: ( Day she arrived from local transporter April 2006: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBCQOi3juzo Frank soon after adjusting carbs before he rebuilt them: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CSBIvnw5qk Lin On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Gerard wrote: > I had great results shipping a Morris Minor to Spokane with these people. > Quick response, good communication, very reasonable rates and no issues on > pickup or delivery. I even lucked out and got a closed carrier for the open > carrier price. > > Contact Stephanie at: > > stephanie@bestrateautotransport.com > > Gerard > > > On Jan 30, 2013, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request@autox.team.net wrote: > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 15:25:23 -0500 > > From: Tncarnut1 > > To: Edward Perez , Rick Fisk > > , "spridgets@autox.team.net" > > > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Car shipping > > Message-ID: <6px4cauw4ii3vwrtvwsojgky.1359491123740@email.android.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Oh crap... thanks Edward. I did in fact mean Allied... I apologize to any > Atlas folks or fans out there! Glad I wrote the 'orange' part of that > message! > > > > David Booker > > > >> From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. > > > > Edward Perez wrote: > > > > "Stay away from the Orange truck people!" > > > > I thought Atlas was blue and Allied > > was orange?B Just sayin'.... > > > > > > > > Edward Perez > > Summerville, SC > > 78 Midget (1275) > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 10:47:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2815842DF2 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 10:47:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f173.google.com (mail-we0-f173.google.com [74.125.82.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E4242485 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 10:43:36 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-we0-f173.google.com with SMTP id r5so4128022wey.4 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 09:38:26 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=A0LCZ9GZumncU37IsZ1u+3Y+mf8shP3MtK/iKMM+79A=; b=IfiB5xtpJNAUGPaq6L6uVKyJwwgCIJYRm/3ScQAywUv45kB9gaGnJxPrS3q/N7Rxqb 51BsBTnnYmb9VIe93F2J+nY7T08yd/gT68fI19i1CiSlILzmSOaJOQX9v3BThWohj+m2 GrfcQxmxFYtj9JolwRD0FKOS6Vnjv3yi0adjiQuYJSz0vSfr7zRZU5Iv+nQ9/v6VO/tG C8QQnuQVKvNvt1zYZt7QL9a+6TeAx9gtSwQZjoyI0pQO72jqx6f4lCJVNS0fxmpW1xr6 Yfs9UFCpMW/OvWIl7UkjZnbX0C/qI0ZkJPsscI9Bi5OgsdhTsqEy0psoQJAyZi/Injwq 2prw== hk8mr30897435wjb.30.1359913106585; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 09:38:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.231.151 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 09:38:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 12:38:26 -0500 From: Linda Grunthaner To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Body work without filler video....awesome I'm trying it in the spring on Pinky. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know if I ever sent this youtube out before but I just found it again after looking for a long time. This is a great technique which I'll be trying out in the spring on Pinky's dent located in front of the doors I believe they call it the A-Pillar? I dented it when I had the door open and backed up in the driveway catching the door on a shrub and being I didn't have the strap on the door it stoved in that section. I believe Frank said that is a common dent area when the straps are rotted out or removed, wonder it that dented area has earned a NAME...wink. I think this demonstration will work so I don't have to add filler. I will surly video & post on youtube wether or not it works. Enjoy the show. Lin http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdLDOkEPFgA ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 12:36:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD5E424DE for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 12:36:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f42.google.com (mail-da0-f42.google.com [209.85.210.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5ADD422A0 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 12:23:01 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-da0-f42.google.com with SMTP id z17so2356053dal.1 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 11:17:51 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ji0f5B6yisjPPH9/sNnmltmjtpgyhGnz68yEOd8/BFc=; b=i68j4htz0R0WUIw5PU14WL+Aph7YJ0WX1FZOnqFKj7zqtNkt0XsIgmuUq9bQMvHyjl Ut9UmAMixco7NhimJan1NgcOaka301DSWezq7VYrd1HXfg1jETGGU6Nzz7TVdDRhzt9A XvvWeOEd/UDJcDaDisd3ark9kP10AVm7rr7cirr5RN3MbzlMTZaIbS82qVbULiywPCAj oY3ELPhyuZl5QJXTyS7y9UxYs7PKkAiFz/q+B3rLrMOLoZ/Y8N4Cqg3wfcqMKUTlNYmC JtxNzOzJgq0uNaxQg2YplOWGDaedADGU40aWAWyToc6+RqO335aL3CWRC2LbG23ux244 GAzg== vh7mr49482368pbc.6.1359919071500; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 11:17:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.81.201 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 11:17:51 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 11:17:51 -0800 From: Rick Bastedo To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Body work without filler video....awesome I'm trying it in the spring on Pinky. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Lin - thanks for posting, sort of takes the "magic" factor out of it doesn't it? ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 13:53:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86EE942482 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 13:53:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f177.google.com (mail-wi0-f177.google.com [209.85.212.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B82AC403DF for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 13:43:27 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id hm14so2254445wib.16 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 12:38:16 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=gb8x/DJVeYOy5v+c3kwOPnT537e64RkIqTjvuVMkmLY=; b=XIBKv0kLY+lUBhBqS3o+Je1x/EQuCHyik5RM7OdDC+7TatR7ghaygGUyM4cCSTwraf 1YVmADwm/Y/PZZ059DlMRmBNMXxS9bYmQZ6AKcDtoyGAAX0VFNL37u6QxtLqOAzi8LoS r9qmBsf1twJIJlObwEP+iLsdTxUgrwitzpwUCDqV/1vKnTDq3ILX2TZ9aNoOQsyTVNTh LNja29NdDmUrxdQY/gvwXZf+BriWR7qBD5XzBObJki25mXdCNnkxbRtobbTaEWPBqY58 c7NuiHpTweviBdWhAybLvFdsO99hbYORhooyK9dsycIvNN4owK61SSxXaW+59mjtfLVF ALIA== hk8mr31400521wjb.30.1359923896803; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 12:38:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.231.151 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 12:38:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 15:38:16 -0500 From: Linda Grunthaner To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Original early Midget on ebay. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net List I chatted with the owner of this early Midget on ebay today and yes it is the original paint. Way out of my league $$$ but wish it was near by to get some archival shots of it. He is not on the list but I gave him the info if he is interested. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ORIGINAL-1963-MkI-MG-Midget-Excellent-original-rare-condition-/330867844801?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4d0942a6c1#ht_962wt_1167 Lin ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 15:10:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3404257A for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 15:10:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f179.google.com (mail-ea0-f179.google.com [209.85.215.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F61E40698 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 15:04:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ea0-f179.google.com with SMTP id d12so2399478eaa.38 for ; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 13:59:44 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=EcHuEFXTjoaya08gEGaQGK+fU50hjyqprYJ6m/Pth3I=; b=JLGYuCDMphyJtISvdPO1QkQPhFq1ZZ/lmMt4keuMvtusODw++5lc3OFVIZ1tOwyE+K YECnxu4Rrjp0YhWfHJAv7LArbxaiPvmgW1lxBvWyQwfrXo9zvhY4ZtYp2ayT06GVDj4E kqErMKAjZcUrC6+dgxWsGB7c2SaKyBmxgHjo70gDTR48fKZ/BAjEESKbYaasQmCwHK+e dKVjNe1KzPfE54FffgWSPOROsZhBpIpXXOMHR0de55eCSpIGQPhVn9GoVrrMwVMYL5TV 7rAfCxT/xuZK1Sm8ikSZAy4/J+q8nnx47ttLq+0pLonaGAFGWayi514iUbk6ATgMCVdJ s1eg== s3mr64427279eeo.26.1359928783619; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 13:59:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.83.198 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 13:59:43 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 16:59:43 -0500 From: Trevor Jessie To: Linda Grunthaner Cc: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Body work without filler video....awesome I'm trying it in the spring on Pinky. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Problem is the the lack of access to allow the off dolly hammering. Good explanation on the video. On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > I don't know if I ever sent this youtube out before but I just found it > again after looking for a long time. This is a great technique which I'll > be trying out in the spring on Pinky's dent located in front of the doors I > believe they call it the A-Pillar? I dented it when I had the door open and > backed up in the driveway catching the door on a shrub and being I didn't > have the strap on the door it stoved in that section. I believe Frank said > that is a common dent area when the straps are rotted out or removed, > wonder it that dented area has earned a NAME...wink. I think this > demonstration will work so I don't have to add filler. I will surly video & > post on youtube wether or not it works. > Enjoy the show. > Lin > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdLDOkEPFgA > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 15:26:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8BC342594 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 15:26:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 508C342570 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 15:24:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8321A1C0000F5 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 17:19:33 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dob001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dob001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.160.129]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CC124E000088 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 17:19:32 -0500 (EST) From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 17:19:32 -0500 (EST) To: spridgets@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1359929973; bh=Qw6ertj7fErhEcMBO6IhsaeZzc0/dwS28qj0g/vff/I=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uDy60vQD2oANjCnNpE7j0dcmKuzAsWqf0DYI7+4qqB16uH1WC4aXHw4amV43Go1v1 v/vNeNPUb35XmofHk/bqc3HuCuVrTtcNcXOCWBjPbYuVrEY+Rff9b2yNoTEvJsOpDS sJIbHY9KiVh9cFQ1FYPDLmivN1mUMjHSxCNzw/Hc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b510ee2746f2a Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgetly drive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Out for a drive in the Sprite today since it's been parked in the garage for 3 weeks and due one. I passed a Suburu Impreza who didn't seem like he was in a hurry until I passed him (or the speed limits changed from a 40 mph to a 70 mph?). Anyway as I hoofed the Sprite he did likewise and never moved back in my rear view mirror, even though I was changing up later than usual. I used 4th (1:1) gear (car is a 5 speed) to 6.1K maybe 6.15/6.2K - 175/70 x 13 tyres on a 3.9 diff - which came up surprisingly quick from 3rd though I suppose I did do 80 in 3rd (close ratio box) - you do the math. After that I moved over! Somebody else officer, ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 16:29:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981BE425C0 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 16:29:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D277940538 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 16:29:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130203232440.QCMX10143.mta41.charter.net@imp10>; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:24:40 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.114] ([75.134.176.126]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id vzQf1k00M2k0G5X05zQg33; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 18:24:40 -0500 a=4qVORgQvpCJpuAOtuMCMUQ==:17 a=ilyt_i8IUVkA:10 a=7Vtkk4Wg9cEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=4ycV2vTZAAAA:8 a=0Poicu3h42YA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=EH1LsyGydcIcaHswqeUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=OpnbjhRAqwMA:10 a=4qVORgQvpCJpuAOtuMCMUQ==:117 References: <15c0.3f463f9.3e403c74@aol.com> From: Rick Fisk Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:24:39 -0500 To: "WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com" Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgetly drive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Daniel, I'm surprised you talk mph. Don't you guys use kph over there? Or are you making a concession for us backwards colonists? :-) No matter how you measure it, it sounds like a fun ride. My Midget was put away for the winter a couple of months ago. 19 degrees Fahrenheit here today (we don't understand Celsius either) and slippery roads. Rick Sent from my keyboard On Feb 3, 2013, at 5:19 PM, WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com wrote: > Out for a drive in the Sprite today since it's been parked in the garage > for 3 weeks and due one. > > I passed a Suburu Impreza who didn't seem like he was in a hurry until I > passed him (or the speed limits changed from a 40 mph to a 70 mph?). Anyway > as I hoofed the Sprite he did likewise and never moved back in my rear > view mirror, even though I was changing up later than usual. I used 4th (1:1) > gear (car is a 5 speed) to 6.1K maybe 6.15/6.2K - 175/70 x 13 tyres on a > 3.9 diff - which came up surprisingly quick from 3rd though I suppose I did > do 80 in 3rd (close ratio box) - you do the math. After that I moved over! > > Somebody else officer, > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 16:43:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E763427C2 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 16:43:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E79C40538 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 16:32:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130203232659.QDFQ10143.mta41.charter.net@imp09> for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:26:59 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.114] ([75.134.176.126]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id vzSy1k00J2k0G5X05zSzHh; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 18:26:59 -0500 a=4qVORgQvpCJpuAOtuMCMUQ==:17 a=k5BDdDz-g_gA:10 a=7Vtkk4Wg9cEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=4ycV2vTZAAAA:8 a=auflD24aQSQA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=RFH2FlqVAAAA:20 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=QJnwlq4sve61saee--EA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=OpnbjhRAqwMA:10 a=4qVORgQvpCJpuAOtuMCMUQ==:117 References: From: Rick Fisk Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:26:58 -0500 To: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Body work without filler video....awesome I'm trying it in the spring on Pinky. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tough to get a dolly in the a-post. I was surprised by the amount of crud that fell out when the guy in the video removed the outer sheet metal. Sent from my keyboard On Feb 3, 2013, at 4:59 PM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > Problem is the the lack of access to allow the off dolly hammering. > > Good explanation on the video. > > > > > On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > >> I don't know if I ever sent this youtube out before but I just found it >> again after looking for a long time. This is a great technique which I'll >> be trying out in the spring on Pinky's dent located in front of the doors I >> believe they call it the A-Pillar? I dented it when I had the door open and >> backed up in the driveway catching the door on a shrub and being I didn't >> have the strap on the door it stoved in that section. I believe Frank said >> that is a common dent area when the straps are rotted out or removed, >> wonder it that dented area has earned a NAME...wink. I think this >> demonstration will work so I don't have to add filler. I will surly video & >> post on youtube wether or not it works. >> Enjoy the show. >> Lin >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdLDOkEPFgA >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie@gmail.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 3 16:43:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349C5427E2 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 16:43:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A9740538 for ; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 16:33:08 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130203232757.QDOE10143.mta41.charter.net@imp09>; Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:27:57 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.114] ([75.134.176.126]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id vzSy1k00J2k0G5X05zTxW5; Sun, 03 Feb 2013 18:27:57 -0500 a=4qVORgQvpCJpuAOtuMCMUQ==:17 a=OcolNxXdW3AA:10 a=7Vtkk4Wg9cEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=4ycV2vTZAAAA:8 a=7KBLyTUEiO4A:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=KjPtzDDTpc9wR7KQ9acA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=OpnbjhRAqwMA:10 a=4qVORgQvpCJpuAOtuMCMUQ==:117 References: From: Rick Fisk Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 18:27:57 -0500 To: Linda Grunthaner Cc: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Original early Midget on ebay. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net The car looks good, but isn't it missing the trim strip across the front of the bonnet? Sent from my keyboard On Feb 3, 2013, at 3:38 PM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List I chatted with the owner of this early Midget on ebay today and yes it > is the original paint. Way out of my league $$$ but wish it was near by to > get some archival shots of it. He is not on the list but I gave him the > info if he is interested. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ORIGINAL-1963-MkI-MG-Midget-Excellent-original -rare-condition-/330867844801?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4d0942a6c1#ht_962wt_ 1167 > > Lin > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 4 11:17:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22DBE40420 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 11:17:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9547940416 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 11:16:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.142]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B60841C000057; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 13:11:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dob001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dob001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.160.129]) by mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id EE315E000087; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 13:11:35 -0500 (EST) From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 13:11:35 -0500 (EST) To: refisk@chartermi.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360001496; bh=NJ+E/Lh6QQ09C8XVs5fGmFHDp+aP6RizM6UwJcA9seQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gG2Vd49I6g6r1Ld2o6sFIz9/YZJAzZJWFynUHjdWMslMQ6eeRl5/WEVx56gtWEd4Z UjOr5Q6eL/o+0BfgQdR00JgiciDUoYkD2E2runo7jFPd3m6CPx2xad6QEbpmC8L916 2jwsymWohZS4xvgbyqsHs8PEJKf9OnW+GY3ksRXg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e510ff9d70cad Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgetly drive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Nope, everything else is metric like millimetres and metres but our road signs are still in yards and miles and car speedos in mph. In a message dated 03/02/2013 23:24:40 GMT Standard Time, refisk@chartermi.net writes: Daniel, I'm surprised you talk mph. Don't you guys use kph over there? Or are you making a concession for us backwards colonists? :-) No matter how you measure it, it sounds like a fun ride. My Midget was put away for the winter a couple of months ago. 19 degrees Fahrenheit here today (we don't understand Celsius either) and slippery roads. Rick Sent from my keyboard On Feb 3, 2013, at 5:19 PM, WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com wrote: > Out for a drive in the Sprite today since it's been parked in the garage > for 3 weeks and due one. > > I passed a Suburu Impreza who didn't seem like he was in a hurry until I > passed him (or the speed limits changed from a 40 mph to a 70 mph?). Anyway > as I hoofed the Sprite he did likewise and never moved back in my rear > view mirror, even though I was changing up later than usual. I used 4th (1:1) > gear (car is a 5 speed) to 6.1K maybe 6.15/6.2K - 175/70 x 13 tyres on a > 3.9 diff - which came up surprisingly quick from 3rd though I suppose I did > do 80 in 3rd (close ratio box) - you do the math. After that I moved over! > > Somebody else officer, ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 4 13:21:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A5D40527 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 13:21:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout19.eigbox.net (bosmailout19.eigbox.net [66.96.185.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C9FE40338 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 13:14:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from bosmailscan11.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.11]) by bosmailout19.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1U2SLi-0000r9-JM for spridgets@autox.team.net; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 15:09:06 -0500 Received: from bosimpout03.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.3]) by bosmailscan11.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1U2SLi-0007ih-1p for spridgets@autox.team.net; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 15:09:06 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp13.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.13]) by bosimpout03.eigbox.net with NO UCE id wL7C1k00f0GvDVm01L7CuA; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 15:07:12 -0500 a=iLnWxMhqznxBFLIlJ+WnnA==:17 a=rVNCtfT2p6QA:10 a=cR5We1pnp4cA:10 a=soqLAFAfTUEA:10 a=HL8deA2zAAAA:8 a=UvUSLyRMERgA:10 a=DIPjVFyKAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=RFH2FlqVAAAA:20 a=gv14lcCNWljp9HGawZ4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=JEEUmy8jlPUA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=MuC8vSEcN9FuR19x:21 a=9Xgd5wWMup1yn4bz:21 a=HcerGb4HNqJAMq4ujm0A:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=BkwQUMv0CYG4rn2r:21 a=UH8/iCWBfdUmbm4Ft4Vi3Q==:117 Received: from adsl-69-107-81-19.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net ([69.107.81.19] helo=[192.168.0.101]) by bosauthsmtp13.eigbox.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim) id 1U2SLh-0001ju-92 for spridgets@autox.team.net; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 15:09:06 -0500 From: Gerard Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 12:08:59 -0800 References: To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Body work without filler video.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Lin, Good technique. I'm an another forum with a number of Kiwis, so I learned about the slapper a few years ago. There a re a LOT of great old British cars there, so plenty to keep them busy with panel beating. I have always repaired panels this way, but still learned a couple new tricks. You won't be able to use this technique on your A-post though because that's a closed panel and no way to get behind the dent with a dolly. Your best bet is to use a "nail gun" which is professional tool that welds little spikes or nails to the dent. You then use a special slide hammer to pull out the dent. It does require removing all the paint from the surface where the nails go and will require some filler since you can't use the dolly. http://www.hotrod.com/howto/hrdp_0607_dents/photo_23.html Gerard On Feb 3, 2013, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request@autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 12:38:26 -0500 > From: Linda Grunthaner > To: Spridget list > Subject: [Spridgets] Body work without filler video....awesome I'm > trying it in the spring on Pinky. > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I don't know if I ever sent this youtube out before but I just found it > again after looking for a long time. This is a great technique which I'll > be trying out in the spring on Pinky's dent located in front of the doors I > believe they call it the A-Pillar? I dented it when I had the door open and > backed up in the driveway catching the door on a shrub and being I didn't > have the strap on the door it stoved in that section. I believe Frank said > that is a common dent area when the straps are rotted out or removed, > wonder it that dented area has earned a NAME...wink. I think this > demonstration will work so I don't have to add filler. I will surly video & > post on youtube wether or not it works. > Enjoy the show. > Lin > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdLDOkEPFgA ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 4 18:30:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2377D40447 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 18:30:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1984042A for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 18:29:55 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=K4WkMg2VrAPfZBpzNXmWvGCug0LvVQ6md1vn3oD05YbhlXVxpihKw8R1dJCVR7tm; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.40.135.119] (helo=HomeComputer) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1U2XH5-0008ML-M3 for spridgets@autox.team.net; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:24:39 -0500 From: "Dean Swanson" To: Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 20:24:35 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4BqQxuoXA+35jrR1OZXrSNGXV+fQBkmYAg Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Light for oil and temp gauge Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Ryan, Assuming your replacement gauge is a Smith's, then I think there are two different ways they are lit: 1) External Bulb - Slots around the O.D. of the case: http://www.ebay.com/itm/290851529420 2) Internal Bulb - Bulb inserted into the rear of the gauge: http://0.tqn.com/w/experts/MG-Car-Repair-3786/2011/04/Smiths-Dual-Gauge.jpg If you shine a flashlight up under your dash and the gauge lights then it is probably the external bulb type. Depending which type you have I'm sure someone on the board can probably fix you up with the proper bulb holder. -----Original Message----- Subject: [Spridgets] Light for oil and temp gauge Years ago the first time I brought my barely running 74 midget to Frank he replaced my stock '74 dual oil and water gauge wiht another one. But the other one, he told m e, had a different lighting system and so my stock lights wouldn't work. At that time I didn't care he took what was a very scary driving car and turned it into my ever present perma- shit eatin- grin application device. But now some 5? years later I would like to see what that gauge says at night or at least eliminate the very noticible dark spot on my dash. So my question is what do you think he put in there and how can i get it to light up? Thanks ryan and yes I know I could just buy from someone on the list another gauge but the fear of buying one that has had the magic fluid l eaked out is a concern. ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 4 18:45:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA63640521 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 18:45:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm11.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm11.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99588403E8 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 18:34:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.194] by nm11.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2013 01:29:23 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.50] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2013 01:29:22 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp103.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Feb 2013 01:29:22 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360027762; bh=lmkrxSRIeN7J2hpTYnylDxNO0fpa9VjS4UDVDywLd1U=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=F6UC0ahYegaV1wMP8vFhWgQbJv2qJ4ghBx7PNF3az1vC7fM8Z9vUNeBI0ZTWdOidWGKRJL7XZ2ACT/6yaOF3kSDKyAXgUSymEJR4bZeVooFTjYpXj2g87yJKrlpc2Jts22M2RRVmCWIuv+nBjrtorgXmEwRaQQ3QTtxeNHHnvfA= g4.pKJsAtsRYJnGyiYTLpYLolFfNf3SO.du.9_WZJ2khDl.xi_cmwhMaGJ9F xwkonts6dy5yXsvYjnnQWm9_tZO_6wx0XFLgidzHZcqnNIS6AOBFV0adZSHl xmiyLYOIXGtLI4Vcmelc5Zy623Kw.kWh6_4n3vsrUCJsdodwWxQkJ9dRmHSv Qr7PyB0lmLV1SRzxYbSZP4ImEbrZfdciCAa.Z5cMCLlO8fw6VjLQ_ecwYc22 MEF.ItSWLWsyecCuqLCLqNicCPOcST5jWN1j8oJ1KDJZvxEHarDrSSKfx2oC MJMVaW07Z71CwoJfgEEp6siyp3Dt9i3Oh8htp5jSFXBPDPnS2QMW2jlzmZdo 2FPF9B9QtL1ikBaHmDyvg1WUmPFsBQdPBao0Tdlztx7zn491cq3.aB6fT9CI 0A4r4paukolc.gF8bF_mTWSQ0tYmaNAsF2HES Received: from HomePC (ladaniels@99.139.224.106 with login) by smtp103.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Feb 2013 17:29:22 -0800 PST From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Bugeye Sprites" , "Bugeye Yahoo Group" , "Spridgets List" Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 19:29:15 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Need some estimates of Spridget parts values Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I was forced recently to file multiple theft complaints against someone who has stolen several Spridget parts from me. The detective handling the case has asked for values of parts that were stolen. I would appreciate some input from you on the values of: #1 a complete set of working gauges from a 1972 Midget #2 a windshield and frame from a 1972 Midget and #3 a metal bonnet from a Bugeye. I have a pretty good handle on the values of the rest of the parts and the Bugeye car that he stole. I gave the detective an initial guess at $200 for the gauges, another $200 for the windshield and frame and about $1000 for a steel bonnet (minus a couple hundred for a dented front right corner). At least one of these parts went to another lister a few years ago. I know who it was, it will be interesting to see if he speaks up. I know where another went, too. If anybody else has bought or was given parts from the 1972 Midget known as bMickeyb that David Lieb and Biff took on the Babe Rally a few years back or from a Bugeye in WI that was being held waiting for repair work by another WI lister, please let me know. I am not interested in causing you any trouble, but I need to know where the parts went and the circumstances involved. You will not be in any trouble whatsoever if you speak up. You did nothing wrong. David Lieb, I know you had a nearly brand new clutch set-up that went missing from that car, too. If you or I find out where it went and who sent it there, I will give you the name of the detective who is handling the case in the event you want to take action, as well. Anybody with information is welcome to contact me privately off list. Again, anybody who received parts is in no trouble at all as long as they are not in collusion with the person that stole them from me and they cooperate in the investigation. Thanks, Larry Daniels ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 4 20:03:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEAFA40521 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 20:03:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mx0a-00121c01.pphosted.com (mx0a-00121c01.pphosted.com [67.231.145.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0846C40435 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 20:01:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0030016 [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-00121c01.pphosted.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with SMTP id r152tmrX014712; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 21:55:48 -0500 Received: from dm0205.mta.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by mx0a-00121c01.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 1aarm802g4-1; Mon, 04 Feb 2013 21:55:47 -0500 Received: by dm0205.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d0476621) id dm0205.510c2981.32ddb6; Mon, 4 Feb 2013 18:55:47 -0800 From: "Bud Osbourne" To: "'Larry Daniels'" , "'Bugeye Sprites'" , "'Bugeye Yahoo Group'" , "'Spridgets List'" References: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 21:55:46 -0500 Thread-Index: AQECnrmNW2z+Icwld0fOG+sAedP+LpoBV2ew Content-language: en-us engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-02-04_16:2013-02-04,2013-02-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1211240000 definitions=main-1302040247 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Need some estimates of Spridget parts values Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Larry, I think a working set of gauges might be worth a bit more, when you look at what it would cost to just repair (not restore) a set of non-working gauges. I paid West Valley Instruments $700 to rebuild a complete set of instruments for a '77 B a couple of years ago. You can bet Nisonger would be higher than that. Figure $100-$125 each to redo the speedo and tach. Probably that much to redo the combination gauge and maybe $50 to do the gas gauge. Windshields, on the other hand, always seem to show up at Import Carlisle priced around $200, but then get "reduced" over the course of the weekend to $150, then $100 before someone buys them. Of course, I guess if someone NEEDS a windshield, they'd pay $200 for one, locally. Steel Bugeye bonnets, in decent (non-rusted) shape are getting really scarce, so I wouldn't knock a dime off that $1000 price just for a few dents. If it's solid, most guys who need one would be glad to find it. There's a big difference in value between parts being purchased just to have on the shelf and parts purchased because they are NEEDED. Best of luck to you, Larry. Hope you nail the bastard! Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Daniels Sent: Monday, February 04, 2013 8:29 PM To: Bugeye Sprites; Bugeye Yahoo Group; Spridgets List Subject: [Spridgets] Need some estimates of Spridget parts values I was forced recently to file multiple theft complaints against someone who has stolen several Spridget parts from me. The detective handling the case has asked for values of parts that were stolen. I would appreciate some input from you on the values of: #1 a complete set of working gauges from a 1972 Midget #2 a windshield and frame from a 1972 Midget and #3 a metal bonnet from a Bugeye. I have a pretty good handle on the values of the rest of the parts and the Bugeye car that he stole. I gave the detective an initial guess at $200 for the gauges, another $200 for the windshield and frame and about $1000 for a steel bonnet (minus a couple hundred for a dented front right corner). At least one of these parts went to another lister a few years ago. I know who it was, it will be interesting to see if he speaks up. I know where another went, too. If anybody else has bought or was given parts from the 1972 Midget known as bMickeyb that David Lieb and Biff took on the Babe Rally a few years back or from a Bugeye in WI that was being held waiting for repair work by another WI lister, please let me know. I am not interested in causing you any trouble, but I need to know where the parts went and the circumstances involved. You will not be in any trouble whatsoever if you speak up. You did nothing wrong. David Lieb, I know you had a nearly brand new clutch set-up that went missing from that car, too. If you or I find out where it went and who sent it there, I will give you the name of the detective who is handling the case in the event you want to take action, as well. Anybody with information is welcome to contact me privately off list. Again, anybody who received parts is in no trouble at all as long as they are not in collusion with the person that stole them from me and they cooperate in the investigation. Thanks, Larry Daniels ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 5 22:25:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF2CE403E3 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 22:25:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f176.google.com (mail-wi0-f176.google.com [209.85.212.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C1A40423 for ; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 22:02:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f176.google.com with SMTP id hm14so5090486wib.9 for ; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 20:57:17 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=trDhXrzWMs6NueodsPIaJggE/QRUtbLqQMf2T3jT2V0=; b=ETZzxfw9ml+OYXYV01JHhFbQjhjlMozSsOO8GB9+mfHLJ1gBkoL4BZ5n87LvMOdvTl PCPQEGKYBdRlxm/tBjN4OOt4TkczapZgwGJbmce/KGfw/xS/oD8OjkxbI1qMTrp5OQu5 Oz6dNCfbC48VzEtXckc3d0lD9tOuxHRZBZkGPjUDPnBkDO1n3cFth8ko2Z8jxRNMdgLa TOdv7IvSopXz+3hMREXBLGmtMQpzeOOfG77XoApTt/L0MlUfvUuklt1NUPY0XUmC6OIM LqsTVXOVUQjEO4CngXxJQtSVt/HTX3cGdfabsBbUPx25468fndAu1N8RR6C4Xvq7apN7 giJA== gr2mr2392041wib.18.1360126637432; Tue, 05 Feb 2013 20:57:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.125.12 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Feb 2013 20:57:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 23:57:17 -0500 From: JohnD To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Need some estimates Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Larry, Look for my email off list. JohnD *Driving in the past lane!* JohnsfollyVintageRacing Message: 3 Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2013 19:29:15 -0600 From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Bugeye Sprites" , "Bugeye Yahoo Group" , "Spridgets List" Subject: [Spridgets] Need some estimates of Spridget parts values -- ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 09:40:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DA740692 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 09:40:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB245403DD for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 09:29:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xSHR1k0081Y3wxoA3UQD0L; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 16:24:13 +0000 Received: from [10.1.10.187] ([75.151.210.78]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xUQB1k00U1i2L2K8bUQCnV; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 16:24:12 +0000 From: Lester Ewing Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 10:24:11 -0600 To: spridgets list , bugeye@yahoogroups.com, vsaab s=q20121106; t=1360254253; bh=r7wgxE1UPrXfUIvFQHEc2dce25RZF+tWsatlhLilJIk=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To: Mime-Version; b=s65t4D4khunJ7YCstIHBQMt9f+s6PQy2Y5ego+661ZpS/9Ra/j9Uy2qq4EK+Mv7TF WsAPzdOlhu/EQkw+8UUDGhjij8fmtvOWeWfnuMnOyta0BT1PQTqHTXukN8sJo3ANc4 nwh9QFH3qxW6Hx8zNDTuQmwRmw2jiXh04g4fi2mW6jktPfGhtopXE2NF5fXxfNydyH nA3IJBN2vZpSGUPsq5hLsywE+dmAQF+glQcX8tgE/ZykyB9u2odoiAiMdglWDyWXaJ KkfW+be7G7m9S0b49uow4nw13LbOgLRv1nLaNbuv6L32m+srgZX30MTqQ2D4WUgSRX X9AOI2FVI2jBQ== Subject: [Spridgets] test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Have things been that slow? ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 10:10:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321FE40E5A for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 10:10:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f51.google.com (mail-vb0-f51.google.com [209.85.212.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2ED440543 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 10:10:21 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id fq11so1705080vbb.24 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 09:04:52 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=VLVWDAQbCXJ16CWN5ul325qksF7LqqGoZTk8M2dmWiY=; b=G3oLdPJFcjNy4SOzGVeaYs8tv3//rwwwar/rccFx5Ax8DK85+nDcs3/HDNI9bIotKB 6q1JYp+5pC/fIEjJH0GATLNaZ1LHCuqMb0aJoXMNPB1u7cOSZKaFimEWjTDDjcf/5oEp 9yeG46BCrfwjqPJ6bs5MYijKyNenJuUkPDVmUJbBvPVTPkPGxUwLniEi7/I69Bafdz2a BLEBKl35w3O22FG8zCUHpzS8j/owWaplObBpcyPS3K418HZLL0JstQj5Oq3SgSBu7cH5 lGmGJQFPI7niE+hzZ9Dffxo+4SJ0NK0MWPrO+5BF+53IWGzo7S3Su3eulyEt+W4WktyM h3mQ== kv9mr2561764vcb.50.1360256681507; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 09:04:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.64.200 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 09:04:41 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 12:04:41 -0500 From: Trevor Jessie To: bugeye@yahoogroups.com Cc: spridgets list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Supposed to be 60F here(Louisville KY) today. The Midget is going to be driven today, and I may work on the bugeye a bit. -T On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Lester Ewing wrote: > ** > > > Have things been that slow? > > __._,_.___ > Reply via web post Reply > to sender Reply to group > Start a New Topic Messages > in this topic(5) > Recent Activity: > > > Visit Your Group > If you wish to unsubscribe from the Austin Healey Bugeye Frogeye Sprite > Club, please send a blank email to: bugeye-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a member of > the group, you may go to the website http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bugeye/and change your subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive any > emails. > [image: Yahoo! Groups] > Switch to: Text-Only, > Daily Digest > Unsubscribe  Terms > of Use  Send us Feedback > > . > > __,_._,___ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 11:25:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B88B340699 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:25:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D076140528 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:24:57 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=snK2ZgFLfbv98s6hz9UXpw73gEZd+OSygu+sxjIYEEXQ6o2SJvgCjRD+gXTt+sdD; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [128.95.226.232] (helo=richball) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1U3W4G-0007s2-2J for spridgets@autox.team.net; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 13:19:28 -0500 From: "Richard Ball" To: "'Spridgets List'" References: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC> <0e1701ce034c$4c86e5f0$e594b1d0$@hky.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 10:19:25 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying a good (for them) family car. Out here in the wilds of the Great Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some sort of minivan. They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to 1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a maintenance item on these or a design problem. If it is a problem how much time dose replacing it buy you? Thanks Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 11:29:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B3C40E3C for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:29:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com (mx2.netinteraction.com [174.143.201.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CA340554 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:29:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTP id 00608F4412F; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 10:23:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Jdrdjw3UxQyF; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 10:23:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com (75-128-248-175.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com [75.128.248.175]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTPA id D0F7AF4412D; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 10:23:43 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 12:23:47 -0600 To: "Richard Ball" , "'Spridgets List'" From: Peter Caldwell References: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC> <0e1701ce034c$4c86e5f0$e594b1d0$@hky.com> <51500471AFA341A991BD37CD0219F12C@psych.washington.edu> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Design problem that the new head gaskets have solved. No worries. be more concerned if they haven't been changed yet. The 2.5 was the bigger concern. Peter C At 12:19 PM 2/7/2013, Richard Ball wrote: >Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. > >My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this >year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying >a good (for them) family car. Out here in the wilds of the Great >Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a >Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some >sort of minivan. They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to >1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the >timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can >understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a >maintenance item on these or a design problem. If it is a problem >how much time dose replacing it buy you? > >Thanks >Rich Ball >'76 Midget >Everett, WA ------------------------ > >spridgets@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter@nosimport.com > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 12:41:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556CE40654 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 12:41:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.151]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 85A5C40526 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 12:37:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2013 19:31:40 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.200] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2013 19:31:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2013 19:31:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 81427 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Feb 2013 19:31:40 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360265500; bh=3WYmeoFz1yHlcvITOgyrzqlpu20zv7o53Wgux3abCTo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hBElJr7GrLD+LYk9G88votEJhAcqa7oeg4vd5vfpDoyR1VsbmMYuJjNyrnWMQbJFeprWcYh873tYvt8Q0JxM5FvLJ04a+eT93C9AgaZwURiKSywIUypHzOoExlPbMZXPUSNoJ331mlvSYTgv6Gf1PCZ0WytuXviMhVnSClzmqK4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CIH9qp4MwXp6RcZ3SI5V3Q1p8aPYbfVKN15wYoDM8MArLWh9QXGuwXysn0WuSxgb46S1nQMv4TVcnvqCHoFAP5KVYzOwrD3d38bEJQ+P7HKKngrhEHOVdEz1eKNmi8V1GP2i6t8qGEP1y0zIRcAhZZ5zSukweombeux5G0GlrtA=; TP_Cvo0re3IpBvPMGuG5mMEBsqorg9cpcDy3OwbmJQlQZZ_BbSjqpX2D9TaT YXK3x7rI.krlJ.6eEIkZfS2DptApfVkVSb03OhWHOdHE3cK.XoBgmwyY6Dgb squqJtBDM06urbC2EXGmurH2mtJ5QLBo_8Lqzu6mR8ErDNWZAmQGq7E9GXTW 4no8GE7ucm9zHG6aHk6atLXJXIAzKaTg9Ds_c4RQNKskQBL2RcM1dpw.Elz8 f3FrfSjHlvifGuHRRjpn3EuZpZP_WsYcC9A8HiASDhn7o80b1VlY0WjxU900 0xJinLbFmvwz.A_TaXoOBn_2RNi9ifXIbnY.lRapBbhGtUWae2pOMH4Rt9Fe u4EUSgNCkbWm0VkQq7HPu15A0ZzbYHHed8bw1twYUwqDmGjmS8A_hgKeVQ2U T3wBqnba_v66L7py.xkDvbqvA5gME6FL1UL4gwoLO4Va4vptmLs27aRFtAY2 mEYPYRjgwEuixKbNzZ3xfsi2rdOqXC7dHhhIv16ogd4WpUbCNNUPIEOEw.Yo B4jdeQ4gbZsi7eTNrCoj.s1AQWuxP Received: from [72.248.191.253] by web141406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 11:31:40 PST UmljaCwKTXkgd2lmZShleCBub3cpIGFuZCBJIGJvdWdodCBhIGJyYW5kIG5ldyAnOTUgTGVnYWN5IHdhZ29uIGEgZmV3IHdlZWtzIGJlZm9yZSBLeWxlIHdhcyBib3JuLiBUaGUgMi4yTCBlbmdpbmUgaXMgYnVsbGV0LXByb29mLCB0aGUgY2FyIGlzIGdyZWF0LCB0aGUgc2VhdHMgd2VyZSBmaXJtLCB3ZSBjb3VsZCBnZXQgZG9nIGFuZCBraWQgYW5kIGNhbXBpbmcgc3R1ZmYgZ2Fsb3JlIGluIGl0LCB0aGUgaGlsbC1ob2xkZXIgY2x1dGNoIHdhcyBhcHByZWNpYXRlZCBieSBteSB3aWZlIGluIHRoZSByb2xsaW4BMAEBAQE- References: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC> <0e1701ce034c$4c86e5f0$e594b1d0$@hky.com> <51500471AFA341A991BD37CD0219F12C@psych.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:31:40 -0800 (PST) From: David Booker To: Richard Ball , 'Spridgets List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Rich, My wife(ex now) and I bought a brand new '95 Legacy wagon a few weeks before Kyle was born. The 2.2L engine is bullet-proof, the car is great, the seats were firm, we could get dog and kid and camping stuff galore in it, the hill-holder clutch was appreciated by my wife in the rolling hills of Northern Virginia. I liked the British Racing Green paint too. Probably the best family car I've ever bought. The only thing I would ever do is hang a turbo or two on it because they are painfully slow. My wife told me in no uncertain terms that if I did any hot-rodding to "her" car, she would never set foot in it again. You see, she had some experience with a car or two of mine where the engine was tuned just shy of hand-grenade... Anyway - to your questions. The belt is critical as it is an interferance engine. It is also one big giant belt. This is the only car with a belt where I actually paid somebody to do the change for me. I read the instructions and got a little scared for some reason. The waterpump you do because you have to pull it off to get to the belt and it would just not be smart to put the old one back on. Can't remember exactly, but seems like the schedule says 60k miles for the belt change. I had it done twice. Drove the car for maybe 130k miles and never had any trouble with either head gasket so can't really speak to that. I think mine was DOHC, but Subaru went back to SOHC a year or two later. Maybe there was an issue with some of them, but never with ours. After many happy years, I sold it to a guy who worked for me. His wife drove it for many years after that with zero troubles. The one thing that went wrong with the car during my ownership was my own fault. After maybe 6 years, the battery started getting weak. For whatever reason, I just kept charging it and putting off buying a new one. Of course, the constant state of charge killed the alternator. Crap. Like I said, my own fault entirely. I will say that the alternator on that car is the world's simplest and quickest to change. It is on top and front of the engine and held on with a few easily reached bolts. You don't even need to loosen a tensioner. Hope that helps. Ours was not an outback, but in '95 - Outback was just paint and trim options - plus maybe a little more ground clearance. Otherwise the same car. Excellent choice. David Booker From: Richard Ball To: 'Spridgets List' Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 1:19 PM Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying a good (for them) family car. Out here in the wilds of the Great Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some sort of minivan. They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to 1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a maintenance item on these or a design problem. If it is a problem how much time dose replacing it buy you? Thanks Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 12:56:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5262740E3C for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 12:56:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com (outbound-mail03.dca.untd.com [64.136.47.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D35940526 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 12:56:02 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1360266632; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Cc:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=VzR3PymP8xl8FbuwoAV+MFXxH1LUu9qsolKF0Cb4vwkatMag7aZjJkX9qd8GuTWsT Gmn7AbRglJH3I5mZAXbytTKNWhgWrNe2Z9JokXryLD1YZqypTJWyOYIWL+YRtAJfVQ Yocpcv/4oSEEolFmnZMJNhmplGU4nZZAWxY/dWiw= Received: from outbound-bu1.dca.untd.com (webmail11.dca.untd.com [10.171.12.151]) by smtpout02.dca.untd.com with SMTP id AABJTJBL3AQ5M3MA for (sender ); Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:49:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from [66.80.111.162] by webmail11.dca.untd.com with HTTP: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 19:48:30 GMT From: "Mark Haynes" Full-Name: "Mark Haynes" Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 19:48:30 GMT To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Ditto here with the dead cat, Bumper sticker in Nederland: Nederland-A dog in every Subaru. Personally, I wouldn't be caught dead in an Outback, I've had MANY friends, acquaintances, etc that have had BAD luck with the head gaskets on every year, They've done something with the later ones, 2010 on I've been told, but wouldn't flush MY money down that rathole! I've got LBC's to Feed!! Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 AN5L8016 From: "Richard Ball" Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying a good (for them) family car. Out here in the wilds of the Great Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some sort of minivan. They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to 1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a maintenance item on these or a design problem. If it is a problem how much time dose replacing it buy you? Thanks Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/511405598a3405594434st02duc ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 12:57:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC4C40E32 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 12:57:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm32-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm32-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229A640528 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 12:57:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.53] by nm32.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2013 19:51:33 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.174] by tm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2013 19:51:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2013 19:51:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 31247 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Feb 2013 19:51:33 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360266693; bh=k/dnC9YaLHUUqVCcMkIVqrld/syDbYHdL65+Xu1j7/g=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kT4wNRcImh7TQ9ZdFDsOLbbBtUuFOGewyN9fb+uRWpshfquLes8pb/rIqtzygIZKBaAWOiQWuxl1OssWYsRKSyZhCKEkbJSGNxHHNXLFGKfoWyZbonzf4IyLGTGokwc8ISKrZl4viQHX9FJff+BfJvJWogW2ISklnP3bgSJm59A= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3b6/LtW5G5OzuqxWZBZgOp1lMtZgb4AbOUrB6FJxdhdvDpApHUWg/nt1L3dFuBUvVc02Klah9uxvcfEV+3V7W0AK3PDq+cC4Nb/ncGXxaUpdz4V2qJMOfok5JnVoNU7WQuPPFK/CJixT+dkW5pSeBjgNjH4V5l6wdQJjpjck5mg=; Received: from [98.208.176.148] by web124705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 11:51:32 PST UmljaCwKCkhlYWQgZ2Fza2V0IHByb2JsZW1zIHdpdGggY2VydGFpbiBTdWJhcnUgeWVhcnMgYXJlIGEga25vd24gcHJvYmxlbSBhbmQgY2FuIGJlIGFuIGV4cGVuc2l2ZSBmaXggaWYgeW91IGRvbid0IGRvIGl0IHlvdXJzZWxmLsKgIDI2IHBhZ2VzIG9mIFN1YmllIEhHIGlzc3VlcyBoZXJlOsKgIGh0dHA6Ly93d3cuc3ViYXJ1b3V0YmFjay5vcmcvZm9ydW1zLzg4LWhlYWQtZ2Fza2V0LWlzc3Vlcy9pbmRleDIuaHRtbMKgIAoKCsKgClJpY2sKCgoiTWFkbWFuIGluIGEgZGVhdGggbWFjaGluZSIKRm9sbG93IE0BMAEBAQE- References: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC> <0e1701ce034c$4c86e5f0$e594b1d0$@hky.com> <51500471AFA341A991BD37CD0219F12C@psych.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 11:51:32 -0800 (PST) From: HealeyRick To: Richard Ball , 'Spridgets List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Rich, Head gasket problems with certain Subaru years are a known problem and can be an expensive fix if you don't do it yourself. 26 pages of Subie HG issues here: http://www.subaruoutback.org/forums/88-head-gasket-issues/index2.html Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo ________________________________ From: Richard Ball To: 'Spridgets List' Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 1:19 PM Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying a good (for them) family car. Out here in the wilds of the Great Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some sort of minivan. They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to 1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a maintenance item on these or a design problem. If it is a problem how much time dose replacing it buy you? Thanks Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 13:28:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914A140E3E for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:28:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from email.mtu.edu (mx1.mtu.edu [141.219.73.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFFDA4051D for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:27:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from TIM2.mtu.edu (adsl-75-51-102-238.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net [75.51.102.238]) by email.mtu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1A4879C3EA; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 15:21:56 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 15:22:02 -0500 To: "Richard Ball" , "'Spridgets List'" From: Tim Collins References: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC> <0e1701ce034c$4c86e5f0$e594b1d0$@hky.com> <51500471AFA341A991BD37CD0219F12C@psych.washington.edu> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net It pains me to hear of anyone getting a "fairly large tax refund." I'll make the same offer the government makes. Send me a bundle of your money and a year later I'll return it. I talked to a tax preparer who said one of his clients gets a large return because he likes to waive it around at work and "brag" about the tax return. Ok with me if that's his thing, I guess. Anyhow, anyone can contact me anytime if you want me to hold your money for a year. I'll even sign legal documents stating the guaranteed return in 1 year. (same interest rate as the government, you understand!) At 01:19 PM 2/7/2013, Richard Ball wrote: >Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. > >My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this >year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying >a good (for them) family car. Out here in the wilds of the Great >Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a >Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some >sort of minivan. They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to >1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the >timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can >understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a >maintenance item on these or a design problem. If it is a problem >how much time dose replacing it buy you? > >Thanks >Rich Ball >'76 Midget >Everett, WA ------------------------ > >spridgets@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/thcollin@mtu.edu Tim Collins ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 13:46:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE92540E2F for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:46:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CECC9403FB for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:45:51 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=Ettpkyf+4PwsToydyo9d7xv7EH4qA2p9tbFFFHE2PD7jBscyHmAqL4BGOhsrFNQU; h=Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.17.92.49] (helo=RichandSusanPC) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1U3YGY-0003pi-Um; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 15:40:19 -0500 From: "Richard Ball" To: "'Tim Collins'" , "'Spridgets List'" References: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC> <0e1701ce034c$4c86e5f0$e594b1d0$@hky.com> <51500471AFA341A991BD37CD0219F12C@psych.washington.edu> <201302071521.1u3xYH1qj3Nl3qa0@aaron.mail.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 12:40:10 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac4FcMPQphiEHKscSbmPoD6J4aIFzAAAQJoQ Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tim, While I can understand you point of view and as a side note my wife and I try to have our taxes come out as close to zero as possible, that's not the case for my son Adam and his family. In my sons case they qualify for the earned income tax credit for their two kids and his annual income. I'm not one to defend the US tax code; I'm just saying that they aren't using Uncle Sam as a savings account. _____ From: Tim Collins [mailto:thcollin@mtu.edu] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:22 PM To: Richard Ball; 'Spridgets List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info It pains me to hear of anyone getting a "fairly large tax refund." I'll make the same offer the government makes. Send me a bundle of your money and a year later I'll return it. I talked to a tax preparer who said one of his clients gets a large return because he likes to waive it around at work and "brag" about the tax return. Ok with me if that's his thing, I guess. Anyhow, anyone can contact me anytime if you want me to hold your money for a year. I'll even sign legal documents stating the guaranteed return in 1 year. (same interest rate as the government, you understand!) At 01:19 PM 2/7/2013, Richard Ball wrote: Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying a good (for them) family car. Out here in the wilds of the Great Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some sort of minivan. They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to 1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a maintenance item on these or a design problem. If it is a problem how much time dose replacing it buy you? Thanks Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/thcollin@mtu.edu Tim Collins ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 14:13:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42A1B4042F for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 14:13:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1912F403FB for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 14:05:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xQaG1k0030S2fkCACYzr1n; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:59:51 +0000 Received: from [10.1.10.187] ([75.151.210.78]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xYyp1k00X1i2L2K8VYyq1E; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 20:58:50 +0000 From: Lester Ewing Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 14:58:49 -0600 References: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC> <0e1701ce034c$4c86e5f0$e594b1d0$@hky.com> <51500471AFA341A991BD37CD0219F12C@psych.washington.edu> <201302071521.1u3xYH1qj3Nl3qa0@aaron.mail.atl.earthlink.net> <0DFB85AE796B42B7A9FFA06B703E9CA8@RichandSusanPC> To: spridgets list s=q20121106; t=1360270791; bh=ou0z86hCY35tEGypG9p2wjyqycSqM7ZOz3f2Qq2G1VI=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=fcx0BlIdqi2Xh9Rq44ujvm4WP6vSvvO+TMz6Ng3lBuPuHPTBl9kQyY2i0WjQAmMbQ ZKiHzVFcvGrYqcMbL4kZu4U1rtkYWXmJM1OKBgO8sdyeMKF4Fg2a8Kh0Me54ccefbu osxCKNnrA1gTNE4Uu5J3ZfHBDX+2QRKTRW2XQTDnZKapRkk0Dps6dIzltJxFW9PCBl yMGj5hWjqi9yeZtihMjnPN6gUf6MScL0MQujmmCQuIGqnnSL5DQBHxwfhAdKpTbl7C OWW5ddIAS/d71TcGdQZkiM67b+XV+ZUHv+jlw3nYVXJvypUI99iWRmYycWwPYE2HlO oUcwLUffesYpQ== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Richard, you do understand that the Earned Income Credit is actually cash given to poorly paid parents. In other words anyone earning money and paying in is giving anyone with the EIC cash. A pure handout. When it's needed it's great for the folks receiving it but to say that they are getting a tax refund is misleading. The US Government is giving them money. Period. More power to them, I would rather that my taxes go to some good purpose than many others but please fully understand what's happening. Lester On Feb 7, 2013, at 2:40 10PM, Richard Ball wrote: > Tim, > > > > While I can understand you point of view and as a side note my wife and I > try to have our taxes come out as close to zero as possible, that's not the > case for my son Adam and his family. In my sons case they qualify for the > earned income tax credit for their two kids and his annual income. I'm not > one to defend the US tax code; I'm just saying that they aren't using Uncle > Sam as a savings account. > > > > ____ > > From: Tim Collins [mailto:thcollin@mtu.edu] > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:22 PM > To: Richard Ball; 'Spridgets List' > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info > > > > It pains me to hear of anyone getting a "fairly large tax refund." > > I'll make the same offer the government makes. Send me a bundle of your > money and a year later I'll return it. I talked to a tax preparer who said > one of his clients gets a large return because he likes to waive it around > at work and "brag" about the tax return. Ok with me if that's his thing, I > guess. Anyhow, anyone can contact me anytime if you want me to hold your > money for a year. I'll even sign legal documents stating the guaranteed > return in 1 year. (same interest rate as the government, you understand!) ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 14:26:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F084056F for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 14:26:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm30.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm30.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.189]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF5D403A5 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 14:19:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.153] by nm30.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2013 21:14:01 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.220] by tm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2013 21:14:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1029.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2013 21:14:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 83149 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Feb 2013 21:14:01 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360271641; bh=n/0dgBCI33GYAmwz96jc2mJxe5J4et6LjlYJF311mGs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4dw9NXPH6j4i1Bt0V1nEqMJP86c7jayFY7xTqKjCmabyPwW2LyxXC5i7kMXy9cuf8LM40FWFPadl/v6koVWkBy/7XVS6IvgI0CzxvCmezKpoFQozQIlXE47aEF6Zmy/F6ZdQislvhZ309VUQH2iUyhI85Wdmh+Mzgzk5O/WYePw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=quobo7MWHS+gGFbky3Cg1zugUWOmi2j+xVWEGLkKuQ95lZyhpnUqWmQcixwXl+kzZt+vekvbC+JBHicq8JKusf+xQ0a6LyCtp6vWWiPFGHxKv8KRYZ3+qKlHE3QCuAqaPWeMrpL5KtGZqwWiWQlwf/oTgNIoSE166A2Y5pDWxbY=; CLsGDyTMfg0LU1x7o1aJVVTVXTGg9MsV0SerafaeH0azz7ule4kUt_5rIWrz B7RPxbxQb685yLJI5ehuZrQCgd5sdRGyFcEJ0fSPkMi.x0_aWkpHMaep2cps 2AfWZCevWQYNluDaBqRJ9HaOLA.WVNiUuZE.tcUuXGWi6z7dREnyCFtvOErK xBs7zlTdr2H3fbK1MUtiVMH78qKekhxNQAz8uzJ4yRSVkaUnsnkawyVfIs5K YiwwQ31eEhKXDjWQ1WhtNd43hWfu8f2JGQtpfXoX5lydpQulyYBan5BvJkhl ESnCMR8.GYMkTt57DlEcNqHiJpp8rehnwfiN_9amw.7fa3EXFW6.8hYT8izk Gmbvs.sEMQ1IA1UMDzXEwtB8pObSETnNFRpFvqQ_rCv9fWPozsgfZ.rYk_lJ VmPq2.edmuAWkkN1cL9wEIAe3Uy.I94O.nK4JszQsXwNE0IMvgvDrDNrTDdC KeRRpH_OLxzpp0ft6HnmpZSZ.7d0xL5cZvtYVsFvN.9ppqMISRWfDsGsPWqw cCsNa.5rf_19OLyp2Uf.Ho76GEDeCmaSY33KM23EfHRLOSoM6ZJyeGh2IjML BBjY5dyGwMhP0G5EbVsu_QBM6AyBeww-- Received: from [98.25.29.86] by web162002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 13:14:01 PST SSB3b3VsZCBkaXR0byB0aGUgc2VudGltZW50cyBhZ2FpbnN0IHRoZSBPdXRiYWNrLsKgIEkgYm91Z2h0IG9uZSBzaG93cm9vbSBuZXcgYW5kIGhhZCB0aGUgaGVhZCBnYXNrZXQgYmxvdyBhdCAzMmsgbWlsZXMuwqAgVGhlIGRlYWxlciBzYWlkIHRoZSByZWNhbGwgb25seSBjb3ZlcnMgImV4dGVyaW9yIGxlYWthZ2UuIsKgIE1pbmUgd2FzICJpbnRlcmlvciwiIG1lYW5pbmcgaXQgbGVha2VkIGludG8gdGhlIGN5bGluZGVycyBhbmQgYmxvY2suwqAgSSBndWVzcyBleHRlcm5hbCBtZWFucyBpdCBqdXN0IGJsb3cBMAEBAQE- References: <20130207.124830.8433.0@webmail11.dca.untd.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:14:01 -0800 (PST) From: Edward Perez To: Mark Haynes , "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I would ditto the sentiments against the Outback. I bought one showroom new and had the head gasket blow at 32k miles. The dealer said the recall only covers "exterior leakage." Mine was "interior," meaning it leaked into the cylinders and block. I guess external means it just blows the water out of the head. Dunno. It was a load of crap. They actually cut the repair bill in half ( to a little over $800), replaced the timing belt and head gasket. Shortly thereafter, it developed a leak in the rear cargo area and it began to mold. Again, the dealer wouldn't do a thing. "Must be a clogged gutter.." Drove the car to the dealership and traded up for and Audi A6 wagon. Much better!! Tell the to spend the extra $$ and get a good used Audi A6. I loved driving mine in the NW. Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: Mark Haynes To: spridgets@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 2:48 PM Subject: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Ditto here with the dead cat, Bumper sticker in Nederland: Nederland-A dog in every Subaru. Personally, I wouldn't be caught dead in an Outback, I've had MANY friends, acquaintances, etc that have had BAD luck with the head gaskets on every year, They've done something with the later ones, 2010 on I've been told, but wouldn't flush MY money down that rathole! I've got LBC's to Feed!! Mark Haynes It only goes one way-Pay it Forward HAN6L12977 AN5L8016 From: "Richard Ball" Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying a good (for them) family car. Out here in the wilds of the Great Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some sort of minivan. They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to 1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a maintenance item on these or a design problem. If it is a problem how much time dose replacing it buy you? Thanks Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ____________________________________________________________ Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3231/511405598a3405594434st02duc ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 15:00:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A40C40E2F for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 15:00:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BDAB40569 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 14:52:17 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=OCAlhoflFfkPTNp6W4EDbnUeSsQA0EAP25naCp8Mmoidn1eUvpqvZ9avxg94gHpJ; h=Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.17.92.49] (helo=RichandSusanPC) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1U3ZIi-0001sY-Ny; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 16:46:36 -0500 From: "Richard Ball" To: "'Lester Ewing'" , "'spridgets list'" References: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC><0e1701ce034c$4c86e5f0$e594b1d0$@hky.com><51500471AFA341A991BD37CD0219F12C@psych.washington.edu><201302071521.1u3xYH1qj3Nl3qa0@aaron.mail.atl.earthlink.net><0DFB85AE796B42B7A9FFA06B703E9CA8@RichandSusanPC> <794C3C9A-4767-4875-A196-FBAE2AA92744@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:46:27 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac4FdyWTyGH6nD6zRx+DpySO3fPCDAABOwhA Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Lester, Yeah, I was playing a little loose with the term refund but I hear what your saying. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lester Ewing Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:59 PM To: spridgets list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Richard, you do understand that the Earned Income Credit is actually cash given to poorly paid parents. In other words anyone earning money and paying in is giving anyone with the EIC cash. A pure handout. When it's needed it's great for the folks receiving it but to say that they are getting a tax refund is misleading. The US Government is giving them money. Period. More power to them, I would rather that my taxes go to some good purpose than many others but please fully understand what's happening. Lester On Feb 7, 2013, at 2:40 10PM, Richard Ball wrote: > Tim, > > > > While I can understand you point of view and as a side note my wife and I > try to have our taxes come out as close to zero as possible, that's not the > case for my son Adam and his family. In my sons case they qualify for the > earned income tax credit for their two kids and his annual income. I'm not > one to defend the US tax code; I'm just saying that they aren't using Uncle > Sam as a savings account. > > > > ____ > > From: Tim Collins [mailto:thcollin@mtu.edu] > Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 12:22 PM > To: Richard Ball; 'Spridgets List' > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info > > > > It pains me to hear of anyone getting a "fairly large tax refund." > > I'll make the same offer the government makes. Send me a bundle of your > money and a year later I'll return it. I talked to a tax preparer who said > one of his clients gets a large return because he likes to waive it around > at work and "brag" about the tax return. Ok with me if that's his thing, I > guess. Anyhow, anyone can contact me anytime if you want me to hold your > money for a year. I'll even sign legal documents stating the guaranteed > return in 1 year. (same interest rate as the government, you understand!) ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball@mindspring.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 15:01:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD51940E67 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 15:01:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A2544056D for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 15:00:38 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=Sz3iqMoZrSIRug0BYNpi3wATV8xr8tR5kRBvilEDUtKNk+HfvvHBTiXdLezY64cJ; h=Received:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.17.92.49] (helo=RichandSusanPC) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1U3ZQx-0008M0-Px; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 16:55:08 -0500 From: "Richard Ball" To: "'Peter Caldwell'" , "'Spridgets List'" References: <5FBEEACA62DA4EDD93F569EC51CC8772@HomePC> <0e1701ce034c$4c86e5f0$e594b1d0$@hky.com> <51500471AFA341A991BD37CD0219F12C@psych.washington.edu> <20130207182346.00608F4412F@mx2.netinteraction.com> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 13:54:58 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac4FYETSePdecVLxTASmA3XxWDMT9gAEylbw Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Peter, So it sounds like cars that have had the HG replaced have a few years left in them. It also sounds like with any car we have those that had good luck and bad, I'll have my son Adam look through the Outback forum so he can get an idea of what to expect. I'll go through it also since I end up doing all their car work. I make him help and teach him what I can, but it just has never been something that interested him. There is one maintenance thing he likes to do on cars that I have never understood. He likes to R & R the brakes. A dirty messy job, but for some reason he likes to do it so I encourage him and try to have the brake job lead to other things. He is good at his job as a building maintenance tech though. Thanks Everyone Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA -----Original Message----- From: Peter Caldwell [mailto:peter@nosimport.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:24 AM To: Richard Ball; 'Spridgets List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Design problem that the new head gaskets have solved. No worries. be more concerned if they haven't been changed yet. The 2.5 was the bigger concern. Peter C At 12:19 PM 2/7/2013, Richard Ball wrote: >Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. > >My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this >year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying >a good (for them) family car. Out here in the wilds of the Great >Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a >Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some >sort of minivan. They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to >1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the >timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can >understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a >maintenance item on these or a design problem. If it is a problem >how much time dose replacing it buy you? > >Thanks >Rich Ball >'76 Midget >Everett, WA ------------------------ > >spridgets@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter@nosimport.com > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 16:19:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C41E540E37 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:19:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.154]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1710840525 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:19:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.153] by nm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2013 23:13:43 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.206] by tm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2013 23:13:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp215.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Feb 2013 23:13:43 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360278823; bh=edQHb7Wipuxz95BUlEdjuBsUhTOvPZ4RiX12oUtXWfQ=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Importance:From:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Sl0zy2ce7Hmy0fSwiuKoPlknprdjefI9EvnIflutp9o47IvK6admCRCN2k6As/no1OoEbt1+UPTzVBF+r/QrwIK6R97QG92asFyz5pNTfXnZgzVGDfwEQkykDRK5kDsV7QnlpB3ApL0r6fuIHgsR8mfk5XtlGbnfKHkHQigIqjU= vimpftIKhkRdc..XPPkUATIPfd_SY6W5olGr5l.j4vjsgWv5svQ.eAdtAGpH _HNYMP9yAAf5V6E1XBUkpHBernggcltk.CjulbbGNJuO5hiWCu6HoIW3FUZz BiN._ON3aKmIzTKiv4EPfaFl05HLmWEmiSOZYp85fpIrzo6z4_TfC.h2zb_E fuaSMQh1kF..VWcnFGWHGVUIOvKweCGMdJznutVj_pfbK68jzvhTnAwT_2CZ TgaPHEJvJAtD9KgQTonnv2gBZHmyZ8f3LFwxnjDbimJfkcgBMVX1k2pK3NUE xbxYf29GkzXEe6EcsLrpdKVqENeRpoB01IVO1rec9wIyd8UsrN43bMsQ7Do9 kRL6XXBXu4f.zqGV9UXOjZJqCqQc.BS7O0HX1dpeUh6dd4Xd.Cajz4BBEBlB EUunaSuRa2YcXC5O0zo6Dx7.zB7c_lRhJf8bDwjvtCB3Nyi4..pXGdpFm4hg 7vOMZ.HJ7U0k8hCinlBeLDxMVcpVX7__MCt0FkQzaQiET Received: from localhost (tncarnut1@208.54.45.249 with plain) by smtp215.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 07 Feb 2013 15:13:43 -0800 PST Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 17:52:43 -0500 From: Tncarnut1 To: Richard Ball , 'Peter Caldwell' , 'Spridgets List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wow. Sounds like I'm the only one here who had a positive experience with his Legacy. It really was a great car except for the lack of acceleration. >From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. Richard Ball wrote: Thanks Peter, So it sounds like cars that have had the HG replaced have a few years left in them. It also sounds like with any car we have those that had good luck and bad, I'll have my son Adam look through the Outback forum so he can get an idea of what to expect.B I'll go through it also since I end up doing all their car work.B I make him help and teach him what I can, but it just has never been something that interested him. There is one maintenance thing he likes to do on cars that I have never understood.B He likes to R & R the brakes.B A dirty messy job, but for some reason he likes to do it so I encourage him and try to have the brake job lead to other things.B He is good at his job as a building maintenance tech though. Thanks Everyone Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA -----Original Message----- From: Peter Caldwell [mailto:peter@nosimport.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:24 AM To: Richard Ball; 'Spridgets List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Design problem that the new head gaskets have solved.B No worries. be more concerned if they haven't been changed yet.B The 2.5 was the bigger concern. B B B B B B B B Peter C At 12:19 PM 2/7/2013, Richard Ball wrote: >Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. > >My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this >year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying >a good (for them) family car.B Out here in the wilds of the Great >Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a >Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some >sort of minivan.B They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to >1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the >timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can >understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a >maintenance item on these or a design problem.B If it is a problem >how much time dose replacing it buy you? > >Thanks >Rich Ball >'76 Midget >Everett, WA ------------------------ > >spridgets@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter@nosimport.com > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 16:45:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E778F40E34 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:45:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74A0403D0 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:38:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C20B31C000096 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 18:32:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-doc001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-doc001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.160.193]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 95FE4E000081 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 18:32:38 -0500 (EST) From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 18:32:38 -0500 (EST) To: spridgets@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360279958; bh=Pd2hOR/jaC9iMbe4VGxi4foMTLopDODfUdq3MGBgX5s=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XiUKzLiDpji10r5ImfS2RBFAEc98CCdSHCLN61ummfTxO3BJimQHSV9KJKZhwlPdc Q+M9klMwVwKFdWNpuOtEfMyuN70DXvpMlOaITtOJEq/M+KYoumvpIohIiLOgmszIUL 9SmtI8/BjzDF+eZMpW9RTpKTzO4NZ7gmuV3AbYvI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2948511439962518 Subject: [Spridgets] PC trouble - Gigabyte H77N motherboard - No LBC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Hi list, Just purchased a new motherboard and case to for my wife to replace the board she managed to kill (on the video) and a new case as the old one was ancient and not very well ventilated (linked to board death). Also installed W7 on it. I've had better installs (board had a bios I'd never seen before) and once I'd managed to get of XP from the hard drive and complete the W7 installation everything was ok. Of course the board needs the board specific graphic driver, sound driver (I guess) and eventually wi-fi install. After the first install everything the PC failed to re-boot and showed a blue screen of death. After a few more re-boots I gave and up reinstalled W7. Everything now ok and no problem with several cold re-boots. I then only installed 3 or 4 of the motherboard software drivers/applications. PC then failed to reboot, BSOD etc. Reinstalled W7 and PC boots up ok so I'm confident something on the motherboard software is the issue. I've googled the board name and not found any reported software faults so welcome any advice - such as how to get a better video driver by itself etc etc. Weslake-Monza 1330 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 17:51:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 371E4403BA for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:51:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtp3.pacifier.net (smtp3.pacifier.net [64.255.237.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5535A403A5 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:45:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (ip117.76.dhcp-acs2.511.iinet.com [198.145.76.117]) by smtp3.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66DB538F09; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:40:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:39:57 -0800 From: Bill L To: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com References: Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] PC trouble - Gigabyte H77N motherboard - No LBC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Hello WeslakeMonza1330, after a very little research, I couldn't find anything about the video chip other than that it is motherboard specific. If it were me, I would get an NVIDIA chipset video board. you can get pretty good ones for about $100 or so. my 2" -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias@pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" I don't have a solution, but I admire the problem. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 17:52:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6C4403A6 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:52:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mailbag.wi.net (mailbag.wi.net [209.225.111.206]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901DA403A0 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:52:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from 173-149-35-48.pools.spcsdns.net ([173.149.35.48] helo=[192.168.1.103]) by mailbag.wi.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1U3c7A-0006Rc-HK for spridgets@autox.team.net; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 18:46:52 -0600 Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 18:46:50 -0600 From: dwoerpel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Pfffft!! (Bronx cheer) Let's all move to Kentucky, Trevor's buyin' the bourbon. We'll turn the Midget into a Bugeye. Montana Bob On 2/7/2013 11:04 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > Supposed to be 60F here(Louisville KY) today. The Midget is going to be > driven today, and I may work on the bugeye a bit. > > -T ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 18:05:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2920440E58 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 18:05:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f180.google.com (mail-ea0-f180.google.com [209.85.215.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B7C040356 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 18:04:47 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ea0-f180.google.com with SMTP id c1so1310595eaa.25 for ; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 16:59:15 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SlDHXXbzcTIsDgEy4VmrNZDf0VJu4aYXUOqqWWza98o=; b=feD1XKvsEJA4CGvRz97EACLjwOk047jWJr6m3Wej5AolGWD8jcS5lOa0kULc+aM7r4 SOhEsQ5ziQM4WkddCbzqVaZ6AsknmaR/XHqvQCyBP+iJBYEbVmsNFdMX3ZMVpNo5HYKv i0xT711A2c92uPl0svMhqfZqigBp5uV2SsdemauXI1h1I0cBbgMnC8BItLRBl4EpIDyj VPINxnxowQADOoWvLipaV9wrdxhZsc07Ca+RQvXQKgpq8UTZbJvvRm04eOQNtlMKVMzG KO+iA9SYxFG+Fbvv/7eGVXYJvk9p7DVPXE1mDS37VYsW1Q/wpN++0yPkR3SYaBiUXv2k 0+dA== v44mr9856371eel.29.1360285154789; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 16:59:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.83.198 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 16:59:14 -0800 (PST) References: <51144AFA.7080207@wi.net> Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 19:59:14 -0500 From: Trevor Jessie To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Unfortunately, the high tomorrow is only going to be 46F. Probably have to put the top back up for the morning drive. But I have a bigger problem. I fixed the underground dog fence today. It has been broken for about 6 months. Apparently, the dog got herself shocked and now she is frozen in fear by the garage door. She has been there for about six hours. -T On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:46 PM, dwoerpel wrote: > Pfffft!! (Bronx cheer) > > Let's all move to Kentucky, Trevor's buyin' the bourbon. We'll turn the > Midget into a Bugeye. > > Montana Bob > > > > On 2/7/2013 11:04 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > >> Supposed to be 60F here(Louisville KY) today. The Midget is going to be >> driven today, and I may work on the bugeye a bit. >> >> -T >> > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/trevor.**jessie@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 18:20:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F58840E5E for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 18:20:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mailbag.wi.net (mailbag.wi.net [209.225.111.206]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D07740E2F for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 18:12:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from 173-149-35-48.pools.spcsdns.net ([173.149.35.48] helo=[192.168.1.103]) by mailbag.wi.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1U3cQL-0006eS-Aq for spridgets@autox.team.net; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:06:41 -0600 Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:06:40 -0600 From: dwoerpel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <51144AFA.7080207@wi.net> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net That happened to a friend of mine and he had to carry the dog across the boundary (or where ever you want the dog to go) a few times before it got the idea that all was well. Dave W. On 2/7/2013 6:59 PM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > Unfortunately, the high tomorrow is only going to be 46F. Probably have to > put the top back up for the morning drive. > > But I have a bigger problem. I fixed the underground dog fence today. It > has been broken for about 6 months. Apparently, the dog got herself > shocked and now she is frozen in fear by the garage door. She has been > there for about six hours. > > -T > > On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:46 PM, dwoerpel wrote: > >> Pfffft!! (Bronx cheer) >> >> Let's all move to Kentucky, Trevor's buyin' the bourbon. We'll turn the >> Midget into a Bugeye. >> >> Montana Bob >> >> >> >> On 2/7/2013 11:04 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote: >> >>> Supposed to be 60F here(Louisville KY) today. The Midget is going to be >>> driven today, and I may work on the bugeye a bit. >>> >>> -T >>> >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/spridgets/trevor.**jessie@gmail.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel@wi.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 7 18:35:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9CA340E59 for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 18:35:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm32-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm32-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D35840E2F for ; Thu, 7 Feb 2013 18:28:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.143] by nm32.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 01:22:36 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.211] by tm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 01:22:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1020.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 01:22:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 19843 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2013 01:22:36 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360286556; bh=nHswSk0LsFpn757h89YywIHvFp5zaepdXEAf0vqI6WE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fTVJfr+RCCPw+Hf462/G5uvb4inSUYO65c7oiq5BgHON2uu0aARku1unWZRI0KvT4qkUX2QJPXF8NvUEz+lOsrh3SGfDdIwvGZEOmgHxdVhFCdwICu2zIkdDUQeN8zWsYrhx8/wKJ2Vey0GbW4bL0XbZP7e57Y/11g518DeWwho= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Oennk1AWt2ZhxM5Bc6UhqNwCpuj1zC1SuLEZ5Qixh57MSpI9HZnYbmyyRs7sbiKhWA+5vpujy8H8F93H/dbHBYD8BSv8jgOlPpuJkO6JXyulHc/mGfGufqNuvQUoIn1Hgg8fmvHxmEY3NiAvAX81dTDnPJyWKi+r1yfmH4DYMJg=; 8x2gIHuO0RgGLClL7jFDT31N1wDttw5omjwjN4G3CMAKuO0bR8cMrOMadl2b krOyuNOIvIXyHJBN6V.5s7XbBAqGHxcurRaN3wsJXniLIF3i6eTPjiSRkEpc XFt_Chang0NOcfo5VPw7Kc4QEmbcaehQ4Vkq8M3Lx5umjKVoZMOcU43gWN.C jdToDnkfEmUjKs35PrJK9SIGx9eL.KmE12FeTD6SeBndyjzzpI72pQSNDdcF 0hqt8NgUKO9ADGJ5Mbb8DeHiiwahX1kgW_5Tjxu3..YwBkonTAkZnowOYv4m 8vukxYk.n.zsHXbjbhuCdvOZ4NwJn5VzbsuC7g_PEybKA7a13x3g96OBwNng ZB5M8e36kEerFLzomOn6VSUkxxO3IDLtWS3DgxTJ4r_EZ29FAGzPuou5w0d6 XYk.K21mXTTRjUZ6obOBM5KbjeA2V5W.Qy1DjO9bDuiYnyrQqVx8dj8jNgP4 1R8q27mWDgMv64UxxaX8BdhjMwQS.LugL1xIpKJXq76E2GRWcXhV6dwlnyo1 7LFXxrDoC4lV3E8aAeN4A9.6CpLSGuHp1StPyJm.GmMKUx31GN6c5pVI0MAd t3817261s9E6wkAbgprHQinXRKof2sFYiJG8laBeFaVnpAJYc5NtghCH6 Received: from [98.25.29.86] by web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 07 Feb 2013 17:22:35 PST V293Li4uZm9yZ290IGFib3V0IHRoYXQuwqAgWWVhaCwgaXQgd2FzIHJhdGhlciBndXRsZXNzIHRvbyHCoMKgIEdvIHdpdGggdGhlIG1pbmkgdmFuIQoKCsKgCkVkd2FyZCBQZXJlegpTdW1tZXJ2aWxsZSwgU0MKNzggTWlkZ2V0ICgxMjc1KQpodHRwOi8vd3d3LmZsaWNrci5jb20vcGhvdG9zL2xiY19uZXdiaWUvCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIEZyb206IFRuY2FybnV0MSA8dG5jYXJudXQxQHlhaG9vLmNvbT4KVG86IFJpY2hhcmQgQmFsbCA8cmljaF9iYWxsQG1pbmRzcHJpbmcBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 17:22:35 -0800 (PST) From: Edward Perez To: Tncarnut1 , Richard Ball , 'Peter Caldwell' , 'Spridgets List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wow...forgot about that. Yeah, it was rather gutless too! Go with the mini van! Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: Tncarnut1 To: Richard Ball ; 'Peter Caldwell' ; 'Spridgets List' Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 5:52 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Wow. Sounds like I'm the only one here who had a positive experience with his Legacy. It really was a great car except for the lack of acceleration. >From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. Richard Ball wrote: Thanks Peter, So it sounds like cars that have had the HG replaced have a few years left in them. It also sounds like with any car we have those that had good luck and bad, I'll have my son Adam look through the Outback forum so he can get an idea of what to expect.B I'll go through it also since I end up doing all their car work.B I make him help and teach him what I can, but it just has never been something that interested him. There is one maintenance thing he likes to do on cars that I have never understood.B He likes to R & R the brakes.B A dirty messy job, but for some reason he likes to do it so I encourage him and try to have the brake job lead to other things.B He is good at his job as a building maintenance tech though. Thanks Everyone Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA -----Original Message----- From: Peter Caldwell [mailto:peter@nosimport.com] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2013 10:24 AM To: Richard Ball; 'Spridgets List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info Design problem that the new head gaskets have solved.B No worries. be more concerned if they haven't been changed yet.B The 2.5 was the bigger concern. B B B B B B B B Peter C At 12:19 PM 2/7/2013, Richard Ball wrote: >Well since the list is too quite for some I'll ask a question. > >My son and his wife always get a fairly large tax refund and this >year they have decided to be smart about things and look into buying >a good (for them) family car.B Out here in the wilds of the Great >Northwest you can't swing a dead cat by the tail without hitting a >Subaru Outback so they are looking at those or alternatively some >sort of minivan.B They probably can afford an Outback in the 1995 to >1997 range, but are noticing that many of those are listing that the >timing belt, water pump, and head gasket have been changed. I can >understand the timing belt and water pump, but is the head gasket a >maintenance item on these or a design problem.B If it is a problem >how much time dose replacing it buy you? > >Thanks >Rich Ball >'76 Midget >Everett, WA ------------------------ > >spridgets@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter@nosimport.com > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 05:42:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1986D40E83 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 05:42:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm38-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm38-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.23]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DAD440E59 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 05:42:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm38.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 12:36:31 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.218] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 12:36:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1027.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 12:36:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 95641 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2013 12:36:31 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360326991; bh=tavfvRfIf8R8zdGywRC3ONaTkHJL7lxPAi88y9wvevk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=evsicY2szDYV7KUNm9NIpJfYbJ7s5W4bpJPT1NGKPl7H5J4MnpkEoVHE0lm48RYHLsIr4hqs9Qh3xC0n1qR9iRq1yvsrZH7hl/R2VNo+uCRoYrsVccz1boRETp34t5O2Y39hDEe1gvzAsoIIG+a/UmkvkZ/uhaNrN5CN2XChrbM= _8lAG6t5A.adfoI3tFoTBKSTvvjvzrTQnrsT3xLXpDWKsWm7V_trmWxqF2t0 fpKyTzE6oKmnI1tE4YRej5yL_e9H7VU2GyB8KiBex25ypvp0vHDjWuev9FBp JBLEgs9Ta4XRE6.53Tr63DpZDD3JS.GLMvx09_ibskh2EranI9c7PZNj2iZh raHdzuQfbC1QyU4i.Kcm3o3ZEeVbCCt7Edld70jycmpHCtMF5N4VW5fP.y7h bXlNOF1ptspSJuDHd4iuDvIxkaTRT7Zak_rgjwlQVka5ALuELY_bvm7Jm_YO U0vEl0Z0.YsCROOqFAgaioqr99pekKYjwspZzMjPBn95SL.STOD.x8VebX7z mbE2bU1UbDYjzp8zKtE0IomODXAFFYBJ70AGEWLZRRwdiIhcK0zhsqDLOkU_ 3BBX9ho.R899B9dfAMxB1BB533qyd2VUqlob9dgXIhDQ.pQ-- Received: from [64.135.241.60] by web161006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 04:36:31 PST SXQgc291bmRzIHJlYWxseSBtZWFuIcKgIEkgZmVlbCBiYWQgZm9yIHRoZSBwdXAuwqBXaHkgbm90IGp1c3QgcHV0IGluIGEgcmVndWxhciBmZW5jZT8KwqAKVGhlIGxpZmUgYW5kIGhhcHBpbmVzcyBvZiB0aGF0IHB1cCBpcyBtb3JlIHZhbHVlIHRoYW4gYW55IHBlcnNvbiBpbiB0b2RheXMgc2NyZXdlZC11cCB3b3JsZC4KwqAKTWlrZQoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCkZyb206IGR3b2VycGVsIDxkd29lcnBlbEB3aS5uZXQ.ClRvOiBzcHJpZGdldHNAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQgClMBMAEBAQE- References: <51144AFA.7080207@wi.net> <51144FA0.70000@wi.net> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 04:36:31 -0800 (PST) From: "lotuspilot@frontier.com" To: dwoerpel , "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net It sounds really mean! I feel bad for the pup. Why not just put in a regular fence? The life and happiness of that pup is more value than any person in todays screwed-up world. Mike ________________________________ From: dwoerpel To: spridgets@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2013 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... test That happened to a friend of mine and he had to carry the dog across the boundary (or where ever you want the dog to go) a few times before it got the idea that all was well. Dave W. On 2/7/2013 6:59 PM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > Unfortunately, the high tomorrow is only going to be 46F. Probably have to > put the top back up for the morning drive. > > But I have a bigger problem. I fixed the underground dog fence today. It > has been broken for about 6 months. Apparently, the dog got herself > shocked and now she is frozen in fear by the garage door. She has been > there for about six hours. > > -T > > On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 7:46 PM, dwoerpel wrote: > >> Pfffft!! (Bronx cheer) >> >> Let's all move to Kentucky, Trevor's buyin' the bourbon. We'll turn the >> Midget into a Bugeye. >> >> Montana Bob >> >> >> >> On 2/7/2013 11:04 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote: >> >>> Supposed to be 60F here(Louisville KY) today. The Midget is going to be >>> driven today, and I may work on the bugeye a bit. >>> >>> -T ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 07:55:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72A6240E83 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 07:55:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail.usimperio.com (mail.usimperio.com [209.150.108.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 104F640517 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 07:49:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from Dave_Laptop.littlebitcountry.com ([69.69.34.130]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.usimperio.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id r18Ei43C010840 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 09:44:06 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 09:43:56 -0500 To: spridgets@autox.team.net From: Dave Yealy References: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] PC trouble - Gigabyte H77N motherboard - No LBC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net On board video usually leaves a lot to be desired. I always go with an ATI video card so I can hook up my OptiShot golf simulator. Nvidia works but the graphics are slower to respond. Dave At 06:32 PM 2/7/2013, you wrote: >Hi list, > >Just purchased a new motherboard and case to for my wife to replace the >board she managed to kill (on the video) and a new case as the old one was >ancient and not very well ventilated (linked to board >death). Also installed >W7 on it. > >I've had better installs (board had a bios I'd never seen before) and once >I'd managed to get of XP from the hard drive and complete the W7 >installation everything was ok. > >Of course the board needs the board specific graphic driver, sound driver >(I guess) and eventually wi-fi install. > >After the first install everything the PC failed to re-boot and showed a >blue screen of death. After a few more re-boots I gave and up reinstalled >W7. Everything now ok and no problem with several cold re-boots. I then >only installed 3 or 4 of the motherboard software drivers/applications. PC >then failed to reboot, BSOD etc. > >Reinstalled W7 and PC boots up ok so I'm confident something on the >motherboard software is the issue. I've googled the board name and >not found any >reported software faults so welcome any advice - such as how to get a >better video driver by itself etc etc. > >Weslake-Monza 1330 >------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 08:12:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9FB340EA6 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:12:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo101.cox.net (eastrmfepo101.cox.net [68.230.241.213]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7277340690 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:10:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from eastrmimpo110 ([68.230.241.223]) by eastrmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20130208150454.NLNK20491.eastrmfepo101.cox.net@eastrmimpo110> for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:04:54 -0500 Received: from alanfPC ([68.14.145.247]) by eastrmimpo110 with cox id xr4t1k00j5LV45Q01r4u0U; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 10:04:54 -0500 a=T1/AFtjZPl00uPhWOVY7Kg==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=a5PRvksD18cA:10 a=HA6Udi52bDluVGb0nykA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=QJOh_y_IRuGfyse7X8MA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=ydeFBqQhgQB9GhEX:21 a=T1/AFtjZPl00uPhWOVY7Kg==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "alan" To: Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:05:13 -0500 Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net As long as the list is a bit slow Here in Rhode Island we are hunkering down for what maybe up to 30b of snow without drifting Nboreaster about to slam New England and the east coast from NJ up thru Maine Wind gusts might reach 65 b 70 MPH with heavy drifting expected Worst to arrive after dark and overnite Have the coal stove cranking and several good books on standby along with my recently retired wife Alan ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 08:26:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9C240E66 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:26:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net [199.224.80.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A8040690 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:22:13 -0700 (MST) Received: from relay02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net ([199.224.80.245]) by out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net with ESMTP; 08 Feb 2013 15:16:39 +0000 Received: from MAIN (74-32-35-18.dr03.mdtw.ny.frontiernet.net [74.32.35.18]) by relay02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id DCD194A0B2; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:16:38 +0000 (UTC) From: "Jim F" To: "alan" , References: Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:16:35 -0500 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Here in the Hudson Valley, the usual Hype from the media is ramping up. Can't wait to see the evening news tonight when all of the "Eye on the storm" reporters will be outside in the snow reporting absolutely nothing. In the meantime, the Jeep is full of Gas, the generator is full of gas, the fridge is full of Coors light, Who could be better prepared? Jim F -----Original Message----- From: alan Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:05 AM To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow As long as the list is a bit slow Here in Rhode Island we are hunkering down for what maybe up to 30b of snow without drifting Nboreaster about to slam New England and the east coast from NJ up thru Maine Wind gusts might reach 65 b 70 MPH with heavy drifting expected Worst to arrive after dark and overnite Have the coal stove cranking and several good books on standby along with my recently retired wife Alan ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jimndi@frontiernet.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 Internal Virus Database is out of date. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 08:42:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3328A40E92 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:42:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4C1403D0 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:38:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130208153245.PUKX10143.mta41.charter.net@imp10>; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:32:45 -0500 Received: from [10.64.193.225] ([198.228.235.186]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id xrYh1k00e41yd8N05rYjGZ; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 10:32:45 -0500 a=uj78w09FJ2K9U0cCFVN1sw==:17 a=VA4PGSuoB6AA:10 a=7Vtkk4Wg9cEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=4ycV2vTZAAAA:8 a=fc3rNjNCC_8A:10 a=9sIipnuWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=yMNAr7ZPl97U6bl9HgAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=__UPNXcvpMUA:10 a=OpnbjhRAqwMA:10 a=uj78w09FJ2K9U0cCFVN1sw==:117 References: <52C346080D6B47C6BBFFDB9C9AD4B200@MAIN> From: Rick Fisk Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:32:40 -0500 To: Jim F Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Something better than diet beer might be good. :-) Sent from my keyboard On Feb 8, 2013, at 10:16 AM, "Jim F" wrote: > Here in the Hudson Valley, the usual Hype from the media is ramping up. Can't wait to see the evening news tonight when all of the "Eye on the storm" reporters will be outside in the snow reporting absolutely nothing. In the meantime, the Jeep is full of Gas, the generator is full of gas, the fridge is full of Coors light, Who could be better prepared? > > Jim F > > -----Original Message----- From: alan > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:05 AM > To: spridgets@autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow > > As long as the list is a bit slow > Here in Rhode Island we are hunkering down for what maybe up to 30b of snow > without drifting > Nboreaster about to slam New England and the east coast from NJ up thru > Maine > Wind gusts might reach 65 b 70 MPH with heavy drifting expected > Worst to arrive after dark and overnite > Have the coal stove cranking and several good books on standby along with my > recently retired wife > Alan > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jimndi@frontiernet.net > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 > Internal Virus Database is out of date. ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 08:42:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09F2B40EBC for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:42:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from brantnet.kwic.com (brantnet.kwic.com [205.150.58.224]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393C4403D0 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:38:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (adsl-64-136-114-131.kwic.com [64.136.114.131]) by brantnet.kwic.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r18FXKji066539 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:33:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ridleymj@brant.net) Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 10:33:23 -0500 From: Martyn Ridley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Seats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Does anybody know where you can get the rivets used to hold the seat frame to the track. Moss (US&UK) to do not show them, nor does the parts manual. Nut and bolt foul the seat base or the track itself. Cheers, Martyn ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 08:43:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C112F40EAD for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:43:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm4.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm4.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.131]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D05B403DD for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:43:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.106] by nm4.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 15:38:08 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.79] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 15:38:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 15:38:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 16043 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2013 15:38:07 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360337887; bh=8Yx0UIoincORfUix0JzgNi8lPRaArWX0t667D5/hopc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=l9JcSDrK8EAGN8vkq/Bb2D+dJmGPg29TzgBQLWd5jdrqqR8bDjNRs908dVpEuftjUxdzIpGgf+aFvJ0HmmwNvgmkm2L1jPxT3L0CDOC5EE6HsJbk5pPzQzziKbDkW7HoCt/Qtvx4czCkK+pdAWDyECU3OE/5GEY3i0sT6vaT5SM= s=s1024; d=snet.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kTx1mocGrb26jjkaarPTzx24+zpTD170VL82r1fWKL8QBEsYVW9TYr2aCYYO3Fweczzzdkj1a+5WeEDf74QxBUziY5shL7no97EK7hp5LQmN8c9kauYmmIhpPtKNGosyNdM/nDHRbObEo2Q5qgPbSfZEw+Zbdne24cRD43NN/Io=; 4RrtU8_Nbdji.I06GOevLM9oJPNXXUIxYCn8oBa9c_gjhDhcxcRx3e6XGg9a zeVQ3rtCH67k.t05fPYrdSbB7ge6XOb5Vpa3SJX5cXa67G8I9_9G660mCLHG P18Wg4vVkkPxsEwleUESn5Z94UmtMXw7lPrLIG.Mb5KXMWuBaCovzdgNRdsh FnXlRN23ueePBgd4KV1u5tPtrYWMJUrUeyYLZV4r3LnEe1mBNzHxBuwJk2pD 68F9otFEL0.v2fmIiVslOAbrPPbCjdiCtBeIJGfsf5HK2kM0ARSrQUXCklfY ixVBxrGm4W.9pVtrzmITt0B.TJrj9HqOlXNureHwWbNTEauyqNc.LM8c9BDg 7dVAxBvuSeWysmmiZaxWo2R64Iw0nExY1dB_Vm755q9D5NKbAKBZStmAVKHC knlBi4ndusSV3ew-- Received: from [69.0.36.132] by web181305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 07:38:07 PST UmVwb3J0aW5nIG9mIHRoZSB3ZWF0aGVyIGlzIGVzc2VudGlhbGx5IHByZXNlbnRpbmcgZmFjdCBhbmQgcHJlZGljdGlvbi4gClVuZm9ydHVuYXRlbHksIHRvZGF5J3MgbWVkaWEgb3V0bGV0cyB0cmVhdCBpdCB3aXRoIHRoZSBzYW1lIGdsaXR6LCBnbGFtb3IsIGFuZCAKaHlwZSBhcyB0aGUgR3JhbW15IEF3YXJkcy4KClRoYXQncyB3aHkgSSBieS1wYXNzIHRoZXNlIGFjdG9ycywgYW5kIHJlbHkgb24gdGhlIGludGVybmV0IGZvciBteSB3ZWF0aGVyIAppbmZvcm1hdGlvbi4KCiBqYXkKCgoKCl9fX19fX19fX18BMAEBAQE- References: <52C346080D6B47C6BBFFDB9C9AD4B200@MAIN> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 07:38:07 -0800 (PST) From: Jay To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Reporting of the weather is essentially presenting fact and prediction. Unfortunately, today's media outlets treat it with the same glitz, glamor, and hype as the Grammy Awards. That's why I by-pass these actors, and rely on the internet for my weather information. jay ________________________________ From: Jim F Here in the Hudson Valley, the usual Hype from the media is ramping up. Can't wait to see the evening news tonight when all of the "Eye on the storm" reporters will be outside in the snow reporting absolutely nothing. In the meantime, the Jeep is full of Gas, the generator is full of gas, the fridge is full of Coors light, Who could be better prepared? ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 08:58:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 935AF40E6C for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:58:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm6-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm6-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.114]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55913403E4 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:47:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.96] by nm6.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 15:42:19 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.71] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 15:42:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 15:42:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 25694 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2013 15:42:19 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360338139; bh=Mf61HSC97TWKaec/qk31iY2rYrMy6yywLQ3QVtQw894=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cjOVrrka1gL6VAhhq5XW+1l3UE7GbcmBEysyK8FutAFiLsI1uTMCdRKnbt+uaVWWo1UweG3+Ag3Gxg83aDWrWztxOUqzZ4DKhw8gSHSUe+xMiwCW8kUe7paXQ/8GHfYwwZMeXtRr+4YbhHOgmlJxyiJelD38ypqmRlaXZTRcX3o= s=s1024; d=snet.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RGbEAhYIkpa2z3vNGrGWHJRiKwWmmQQlmWaP9PZaTlO3LBn1gvdJGJ2WKFaQdMY4z5v9y7ckE6iFUyfYT3vt9LxswPWt7Au+VPoA+Z1ciN7QqrcoFVPN0F1ejX7oW2Iz8zGSZaWSwkWEDk/2U9ru2x2dRHJRtfUjwRN4S+uSKKo=; dfixboIcbe8xgwLrgd6oJ5NxbawrqyqTX6H0UEgaba8_Ks2Aybo1oHGTJRHY MgwVNGcwOEDxBHp6jqnz99KKu3Gth123eysFhhakGKwIPkppPfMt_BfwKuQC I0q9xDBQ33aj24ZMHrIkvVTppD_.kDzOtAcy6JTWtSohf8.WmmISjQ6eGLm3 d8DdeddU9GMWbT8AXtT25rvfPV2Rb2Ax218fUtNIm9zgii9Xc0EW2BFipYQp V6DTQiIx2mePQxXNH.hDjBASdjw31biP.6W9huU12Xj1BP363DlHEK4UJ3eR CdEda8WMK2FydpGc80EdoXCl.u8EC3SMExAG_0jKJM.o_RWUvWCfpIi.Gdhj y5R91iBQZPzhdW0_gql9XPgKZq5zCnASWSZZHcC4lC67EuwniNDxbhVWdoFu gDpM364eYROLu4aYnKEghwkGJdAhOOKr2X8jB19ykgK6rcqDArARnqtHl2x5 VNZNicQmf98EV2XyjHgE6z5slcFTKVIDcsylixaPzH0W9kKjFMmzq2dL6lS7 4FkUo_HBBw7F2T0eWrahZDY_uSN148GdTpd0YDm0t0JBJ5MJ16OzwccTuYwW 5pRDuzTJ.URRYwQBhot1Q0MN4olK7Fil1JEbkUm2RUv8K4fwa5R_ZiTO_kG2 qK1ZtyTHCnw6RywR6dL6b9oeEehlt.5172cELZnm.8yhnHfEG.YCenGGkKEu BfRbL1N_v14JObpVESzzR2RDd3x66G8_uJ7pbgRt1e7SHvX9JkLvai8t1vzA M63IJC52KV6SG0s7kfgv5LXDPuqMJHFv88Y3Qc9eaz7DUU5YTn3k2EDrONwL PA3RWUGG8Gw-- Received: from [69.0.36.132] by web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 07:42:19 PST V2hhdCBhYm91dCBhbiBpbmR1c3RyaWFsIHN1cHBsaWVyIHN1Y2ggYXMgTWNNYXN0ZXItQ2Fycj8KCiJNb3NzIChVUyZVSykgdG8gZG8gbm90IHNob3cgdGhlbSIgCgpTaG9ja2luZy4KCkEgcXVpY2sgR29vZ2xlIHNlYXJjaDoKCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cubWNtYXN0ZXIuY29tLyNyaXZldHMvPWxlMW1pNAoKIApBbmQgdGhlcmUgYXJlIG90aGVyIHN1cHBsaWVycy4KCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cxLm1zY2RpcmVjdC5jb20vZUNvbW1lcmNlL05hdmlnYXRpb25TZXJ2bGV0L0Zhc3RlbmVycy1BZGhlc2l2ZXMvUml2ZXRzLVRocmUBMAEBAQE- References: <51151AC3.50104@brant.net> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 07:42:19 -0800 (PST) From: Jay To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net What about an industrial supplier such as McMaster-Carr? "Moss (US&UK) to do not show them" Shocking. A quick Google search: http://www.mcmaster.com/#rivets/=le1mi4 And there are other suppliers. http://www1.mscdirect.com/eCommerce/NavigationServlet/Fasteners-Adhesives/Rivets-Threaded-Inserts-Tools/Rivets-Threaded-Inserts-Sheet-Metal-Fasteners/_/N-77dvt http://www.bigflatsrivet.com/steel_rivets.html jay ________________________________ From: Martyn Ridley To: spridgets@autox.team.net Sent: Fri, February 8, 2013 10:37:18 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Seats Does anybody know where you can get the rivets used to hold the seat frame to the track. Moss (US&UK) to do not show them, nor does the parts manual. Nut and bolt foul the seat base or the track itself. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 08:59:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BEDC40E98 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:59:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm3.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm3.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.130]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A97840E68 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:55:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.100] by nm3.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 15:49:31 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.78] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 15:49:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 15:49:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 45846 invoked by uid 60001); 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Steve Christiansen Ol Phartz Partz 714-686-1236 www.olphartz.com schris51@att.net ________________________________ From: Jay To: Spridgets Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow "the fridge is full of Coors light" Just a suggestion, but before the snow gets too heavy, you might want to make a run to store and buy some beer. jay ________________________________ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/schris51@att.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 09:13:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0613540E62 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 09:13:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f51.google.com (mail-ee0-f51.google.com [74.125.83.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0089D403BA for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 09:07:12 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ee0-f51.google.com with SMTP id d17so2044058eek.24 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 08:01:38 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=XTthZmhjqZEbzhCXti4PlmWsU5tn1n8WSHzq1XrZxwk=; b=cYEfXpkJHZgxs8RxeQZamvZJLDD1kiBu0K87bIh1aaTnVGiYrjyM6xgyZ1fordWsyC gRvInFuctOolrUMyclm76GRWDPmNDNjBAISAL0tq09SqlGcN1Ho1ljGK0vBS1ZmW1Nn8 MJYFQS4o4lJbi4J/SEGHb2djbeWHobsUTcLx7Bo4zVALOT77TB8MYCX2HCdy3axdtjBv 6uk8Wzk3w6/vR1TpvLH3nnWdy0puNS4FKcBa3Fo3E0L/MOW1D0txgpWLYxQkPgvlrybz bUFEqlUs3XXd5utC6kARVRe79r0c/AWzXBLw2F3AwM7GTR2RfyuBNcW8STPtGq0TTodI 6RVA== a42mr17187407eem.34.1360339298363; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 08:01:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.83.198 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:01:37 -0800 (PST) References: <52C346080D6B47C6BBFFDB9C9AD4B200@MAIN> <33B15865-3D14-49CA-BBB5-D1993C3B8A1C@chartermi.net> <1360338570.41372.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:01:37 -0500 From: Trevor Jessie To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Can you guys get the new Falls City Beer out there? On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Jay wrote: > "the fridge is full of Coors light" > > Just a suggestion, but before the snow gets too heavy, you might want to > make a > run to store and buy some beer. > > jay ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 09:17:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC15540E98 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 09:17:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net [199.224.80.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E280640690 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 09:17:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from relay02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net ([199.224.80.245]) by out01.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net with ESMTP; 08 Feb 2013 16:11:27 +0000 Received: from MAIN (74-32-35-18.dr03.mdtw.ny.frontiernet.net [74.32.35.18]) by relay02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 542DE4A0B4; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 16:11:27 +0000 (UTC) From: "Jim F" To: "Steve Christiansen" , References: <52C346080D6B47C6BBFFDB9C9AD4B200@MAIN><33B15865-3D14-49CA-BBB5-D1993C3B8A1C@chartermi.net><1360338570.41372.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1360338967.21536.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:11:23 -0500 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I've also got some Heinekin and 2 6 paks of Corona Jim F -----Original Message----- From: Steve Christiansen Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:56 AM To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow I hear that. Steve Christiansen Ol Phartz Partz 714-686-1236 www.olphartz.com schris51@att.net ________________________________ From: Jay To: Spridgets Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow "the fridge is full of Coors light" Just a suggestion, but before the snow gets too heavy, you might want to make a run to store and buy some beer. jay ________________________________ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/schris51@att.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jimndi@frontiernet.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 Internal Virus Database is out of date. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 10:15:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17F340EAC for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:15:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f174.google.com (mail-ia0-f174.google.com [209.85.210.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68E4D40E98 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:05:00 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ia0-f174.google.com with SMTP id o25so4361293iad.19 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 08:59:25 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:cc:content-type; bh=AncDfMz9LToxJuatqtM6DmSJn6LBIZ58clZUf+nUS8M=; b=SGWm2/tctM4J5SA7mRfgTCYShQUn6t23gqz6uorIgSwGDVZpVbXCZquYt8Fa6lOpum gW8mAZi/xEDmwMzhmDF8cBhL3lJFVY2QGXqB2LZOJq1h/Ga8g8N3ESDCIgU28ZjfNTAA OqBuIJzAftCcQhJ7QyUnwAx4huGLr7a7A/penUetWB3mzhv2xSfwHjworZ/RCFtz/Q4H zuSPlLzzS296m7VpVHoGVgGARFs3Lcw9o5mRegLE7kBkczzTMFj2QsZWCYQTyUpF6Oq7 pO8E3S8C3AiHzv3WuYQjSnXqiTHJKpRfS7el+31MDGzAhNsU0irMqrJr6jLLxTlX/fM1 WmWg== qp8mr3803141igc.25.1360342765495; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 08:59:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.38.226 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 08:59:25 -0800 (PST) References: <52C346080D6B47C6BBFFDB9C9AD4B200@MAIN> <33B15865-3D14-49CA-BBB5-D1993C3B8A1C@chartermi.net> <1360338570.41372.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1360338967.21536.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <83B5740E0CB540039461E82DEA541A18@MAIN> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:59:25 -0600 From: Jim Johnson Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Now if you fellows were home brewers you'd have some beer in your constant 42F kegerator... Cheers!! Jim - 5 gals of my Double IPA and 5 gals of my Snake Snot Stout in the cooler with 5 gals of Amber Ale in the fermentor. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Jim F wrote: > I've also got some Heinekin and 2 6 paks of Corona > > Jim F > > -----Original Message----- From: Steve Christiansen > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:56 AM > To: spridgets@autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow > > I hear that. > > Steve Christiansen > Ol Phartz Partz > 714-686-1236 > www.olphartz.com > schris51@att.net > > > > > ______________________________**__ > From: > Jay > To: Spridgets > Sent: > Friday, February 8, 2013 7:49 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list > is slow > > "the fridge is full of Coors light" > > Just a suggestion, but before > the snow gets too heavy, you might want to make a > run to store and buy some > beer. > > jay > > > > > ______________________________**__ > ------------------------ > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested > annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: > http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/spridgets/schris51@**att.net > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/jimndi@**frontiernet.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 > Internal Virus Database is out of date. ------------------------ > > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/bmwwxman@**gmail.com > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Dodge City 300 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 10:47:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A839B40E6B for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:47:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from out02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (out02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net [199.224.80.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906EF40E97 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:39:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from relay02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net ([199.224.80.245]) by out02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net with ESMTP; 08 Feb 2013 17:33:55 +0000 Received: from MAIN (74-32-35-18.dr03.mdtw.ny.frontiernet.net [74.32.35.18]) by relay02.dlls.pa.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EA5934A0CE; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:33:54 +0000 (UTC) From: "Jim F" To: "Jim Johnson" References: <52C346080D6B47C6BBFFDB9C9AD4B200@MAIN><33B15865-3D14-49CA-BBB5-D1993C3B8A1C@chartermi.net><1360338570.41372.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><1360338967.21536.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><83B5740E0CB540039461E82DEA541A18@MAIN> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:33:50 -0500 Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Eureka!!!! I found an old stash of Captain Morgan ! Jim F. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Johnson Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 11:59 AM Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Now if you fellows were home brewers you'd have some beer in your constant 42F kegerator... Cheers!! Jim - 5 gals of my Double IPA and 5 gals of my Snake Snot Stout in the cooler with 5 gals of Amber Ale in the fermentor. On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Jim F wrote: > I've also got some Heinekin and 2 6 paks of Corona > > Jim F > > -----Original Message----- From: Steve Christiansen > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:56 AM > To: spridgets@autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow > > I hear that. > > Steve Christiansen > Ol Phartz Partz > 714-686-1236 > www.olphartz.com > schris51@att.net > > > > > ______________________________**__ > From: > Jay > To: Spridgets > Sent: > Friday, February 8, 2013 7:49 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list > is slow > > "the fridge is full of Coors light" > > Just a suggestion, but before > the snow gets too heavy, you might want to make a > run to store and buy some > beer. > > jay > > > > > ______________________________**__ > ------------------------ > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested > annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: > http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/spridgets/schris51@**att.net > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/jimndi@**frontiernet.net > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 > Internal Virus Database is out of date. ------------------------ > > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/bmwwxman@**gmail.com > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Dodge City 300 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jimndi@frontiernet.net ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6074 - Release Date: 02/01/13 Internal Virus Database is out of date. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 12:05:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02A0040E98 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:05:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net (txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net [208.180.40.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F1F4003E for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:05:19 -0700 (MST) Received: from leosHP ([72.47.140.225]) by txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net (InterMail vM.8.04.01.08 201-2343-100-153-20121108) with ESMTP id <20130208185804.MODP24989.txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net@leosHP>; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:58:04 -0600 From: <60bugeye@cebridge.net> To: "Jay" , References: <51151AC3.50104@brant.net> <1360338139.49486.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:59:40 -0600 cv=8HAqJifFC5chs1BDAP32/8F2CJbitqFd2jxjhl6FM10= c=1 sm=0 a=X6EWi9_stYMA:10 a=pVMl2t813bUA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=5lucXWJGAAAA:8 a=NS7y1Q0JAAAA:8 a=gvjPYoMOAAAA:8 a=7KAlNBJNAAAA:8 a=Mf1v_7_OAAAA:8 a=FRpZUojdRJ69ILgqjDUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=wnrYmdMawgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=ZvGnWCJfGGMA:10 a=VgdHWzi9AekA:10 a=2uv31ZXIqnFu7xxH:21 a=dWEC-68j1cKklSy_:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net There is a supplier of rivets in California I got mine from along with the rivets for the valve cover and other parts that needed to be riveted. I will find one of the packages this evening and post it. Leo -----Original Message----- From: Jay Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:42 AM To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats What about an industrial supplier such as McMaster-Carr? "Moss (US&UK) to do not show them" Shocking. A quick Google search: http://www.mcmaster.com/#rivets/=le1mi4 And there are other suppliers. http://www1.mscdirect.com/eCommerce/NavigationServlet/Fasteners-Adhesives/Rivets-Threaded-Inserts-Tools/Rivets-Threaded-Inserts-Sheet-Metal-Fasteners/_/N-77dvt http://www.bigflatsrivet.com/steel_rivets.html jay ________________________________ From: Martyn Ridley To: spridgets@autox.team.net Sent: Fri, February 8, 2013 10:37:18 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Seats Does anybody know where you can get the rivets used to hold the seat frame to the track. Moss (US&UK) to do not show them, nor does the parts manual. Nut and bolt foul the seat base or the track itself. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/60bugeye@cebridge.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 12:16:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2D7040EAF for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:16:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout18.eigbox.net (bosmailout18.eigbox.net [66.96.185.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9A840322 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:15:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from bosmailscan13.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.13]) by bosmailout18.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1U3tKK-0006WU-1x for spridgets@autox.team.net; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:09:36 -0500 Received: from bosimpout03.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.3]) by bosmailscan13.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1U3tKJ-0007U4-Ke for spridgets@autox.team.net; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:09:35 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp18.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.18]) by bosimpout03.eigbox.net with NO UCE id xv7R1k00D0PPbB601v7R4f; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:07:25 -0500 a=IXuUKvrXNppmQ80zAkRC/w==:17 a=rVNCtfT2p6QA:10 a=VA4PGSuoB6AA:10 a=soqLAFAfTUEA:10 a=HL8deA2zAAAA:8 a=fc3rNjNCC_8A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=aL_fY6lZmZWKfzxQrbwA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=ADpJFyWcXxJ7ARkS:21 a=hsonH7E3nOZjOFuRJksPKA==:117 Received: from adsl-69-107-93-219.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net ([69.107.93.219] helo=[192.168.0.100]) by bosauthsmtp18.eigbox.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim) id 1U3tKH-0006ZV-NE for spridgets@autox.team.net; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:09:35 -0500 From: Gerard Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:09:24 -0800 References: To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Jim, I didn't know you were a home brewer:-) My son, who you met at LotO, is now a professional chef and we've been making home-brew for a couple years now. Except for a few microbrews, there little "off the shelf stuff" we like anymore. Maybe you can share a couple recipes? :-) Cheers! Gerard On Feb 8, 2013, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request@autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 10:59:25 -0600 > From: Jim Johnson > Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Now if you fellows were home brewers you'd have some beer in your constant > 42F kegerator... > > Cheers!! > Jim - 5 gals of my Double IPA and 5 gals of my Snake Snot Stout in the > cooler with 5 gals of Amber Ale in the fermentor. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 12:22:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE38140FDB for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:22:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f44.google.com (mail-pa0-f44.google.com [209.85.220.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169B1403E4 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:22:36 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id kp1so2207765pab.31 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 11:17:02 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=xVRAJVS+TnOXOFm4okKF4I3Cuby14gElllVRHO3/thI=; b=bZWRxOcXK4ABBf4Z8l4QZrPW6disLo7K2PKkLiDN5qOJ6jUBf5VttxujERKEOhSMJR mSXpctz+Xvy21HjwdkJ6gBhROKcoDub7KTY2/dzWVd4EvrtL0cqdryoh1qU9KugohYqT wcxf8WK9scECGbHGGBt/hF4a/oQyMR0qSpXl9oeWxr8P0NPhO9TwBi6DEYdkPJWF/0Or EoA6gJRQ5AgnO4v+9gsa2bE/BtQCjCGNV6u9jwYHOAK1/l9twJARDCJgGpVRM8Wg38PG yzLMO10mUzYZJHYIlmmjrlnASk/bu9gHtpUY39vWs1aiKB8r5DA7CL13WqnxdzlXjUqH nXMQ== Fri, 08 Feb 2013 11:17:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.81.201 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:17:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 11:17:01 -0800 From: Rick Bastedo To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I started homebrewing in 1978. Funny when I look back on it, used an open top 5 gallon crock with malt and hops and water and yeast. Laid a plastic cover over it just to keep most of the extraneous "stuff" out. That was a great top fermenting lager as I remember it. Now I might not even want to try it but back then it was ambrosia. I recently discovered I have a great intolerance to gluten, therefore beer. I was pretty bummed out about this until just recently when I finally thought "what about hard cider?". I have the kegs and the fridge and the CO2 with the regulators and I'm just so completely set up for this. So, not knowing any better (sometimes that is a good thing) I went to the store and bought 5 gallons of Tree Top apple juice and four or five frozen concentrated cans of Tree Top. I chose Tree Top because of the commercially available apple juices out there they are the only ones I could find that display right on the front "Made only from apples grown in the USA". So I went to my nearby wine & beer making shop and bought a new airlock and rubber stopper (with the hole in it for the airlock) and a package of Wyeast Cider Yeast. Went home, activated the yeast and put all the juices in the carboy. Once the yeast pouch was getting nice and puffy I opened it up and pitched it in. Fermentation began rapidly, and went on for a week. I racked it out into a clean carboy (I own several) and let it run for another week. By the end of the 2nd week it was clearing pretty nicely so I racked it into a keg. Hooked up the CO2, gave it some shakes and let it sit a few days. This was at Christmas time, so I had nice bubbly hard cider for my guests who came for Christmas dinner. That was so good I decided to do it again. Like any good brewer worth his salt I save packets of yeast from a good batch, the Wyeast people say this will work fine up through about 7 generations. The second batch came out even better than the first. I know it would be better if I had a cider press and juiced my own apples yada yada. You can't argue with results however, and this stuff was great! Ok, there you go - hope all you guys and gals hunkered down for the storm are well stocked and stay warm and dry. Rick Bastedo ****************************************** From: Jim Johnson Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Now if you fellows were home brewers you'd have some beer in your constant 42F kegerator... Cheers!! Jim - 5 gals of my Double IPA and 5 gals of my Snake Snot Stout in the cooler with 5 gals of Amber Ale in the fermentor. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 13:49:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FFF540EBE for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 13:49:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth15.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth15.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFC1D40EA4 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 13:47:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from [71.236.143.70] (helo=spider) by smtpauth15.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1U3ulI-0000dS-3E for spridgets@autox.team.net; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 15:41:32 -0500 From: To: References: <52C346080D6B47C6BBFFDB9C9AD4B200@MAIN><33B15865-3D14-49CA-BBB5-D1993C3B8A1C@chartermi.net><1360338570.41372.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><1360338967.21536.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><83B5740E0CB540039461E82DEA541A18@MAIN> <672A603EDA974AC0B803C42E56859FAA@MAIN> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 12:41:23 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac4GI4oMP/dUDZviRRijfPRfDCjJFAAGQK1w Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net That is good auto-freeze. =============================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim F Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:34 AM To: Jim Johnson Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Eureka!!!! I found an old stash of Captain Morgan ! Jim F. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 15:07:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2804240EE0 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:07:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm9-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm9-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70DE840EA8 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:04:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.105] by nm9.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 21:58:49 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.78] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 21:58:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Feb 2013 21:58:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 52285 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Feb 2013 21:58:48 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360360728; bh=vyDPT6jJLE/iU08wNbVPNKaF9HfFmBk4W75AjHbslcI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kd6mbMTOa1u2zCjO/ABWniugwQwFDJh0J5IfBm1Vz0UnR04GEl1DbtYky478rsSISXSGvhBZ0JgMjOg3wDTEcCamC+hMsqKfWIdCYFskxhdInTL2XXB09uAOYwfrjbDLoWufgmQ6uq1VyssN3A6slJ7AT3Qj6vHzqDYVMFWpnIM= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Yqqw+giXFx1dugvjyb8z8CvbCdzphJNMUTi5ptuv8vK58/tBZg2p7J3G/GFQ2FJ7TX/rkAf7rtBSvAY9bluR12n1zEvulebQavLrh3h/8rjyYt2I8r0Ktv/6PZRN0SfNx5U5rru46dXa9rdzBqPvlWy2E11rCjlBoIPJdGLlNzU=; lOEFU4gfpo1O4a7DtqXSuhtVqHgnnDbfWNEKGIRLTlfhnS9l8XiZ1pk89HSm fGk0jzJHb2UkjDpIzuk0PxyD.GAi1pCQpkOt7j2aGpzUzQMrSMnx0jHZQ8v5 CUEYSEyqwcWUR28Ve2S8sZZXLEim5u1_iXQPUK9QQvd6uPKjtvyKybhyN79W LVxWFmTe3C0jlVSpoLvu02XouTir9R3ZEmyHCgjs8cb.0HP2BQxWo4e54wN7 dUhB2Lw9WrZpBwCS2dkwKVeh7hzCRn178Jr67TcAoqP7PncEIbxADO74QI0K C.vpU4CleIPRjjOETEFQPIROJFEAjQkAI5q64tBRJHOPEqMQ5RcK4KAfDz8w QdgSt3EUExnN8qcNKwUU_8qC_WXV3wsCfv7s3rY9cwEk23NUBCy62FXT2vWn CJHGFKnsSviwJ8pE_IEGtWZxdYYdQcpkz4htycZM99b7tyaP_7JDQQWOs1iF 44jI4J4ggFzht3kAIoyEFsIYfCOX7oxqxubQZbsIR5K6rrWeQaa52pNnomGV irkvcQKh1tjig.muyBzLEnJLhTTMOEbLwlnQnoOjGwYesjGYltX7wQeEpbpw qQePesqmPTSGN1YDdOn.dNFbBW1eIWTH7jKs0unUItobpvbHvaBWU7z_BVtv a7QKvMCXWHKtkT4g6BTrkrigsUsaIWvtcyi3gxJHmh.pTfBdrDEoHufrFG6o 3DyhQzVJ6vRM5dhUEdQYi1aqveYV6_TpPLd1cvz7vCDgQVu7Z7pzz8cOZ7Gs P8ivZFqeUc1zxsMzz.vHEnCAFcYvsaIUh9lCRFFo4PU36hLvrNMaLPQaLdeJ n5eEgejxuenTM5JyclWsKQxFNjj1LDdmabF4HJZsw2.CTIWDZKT4oeabYp_Y ZbjhpFj3746qrWQXRY1PmlsfyEeDlAqT0uzQywFdiUIpJf48lOsLFPeQqjyH itNSsJQMkmX9krqMsPYDg Received: from [99.101.224.117] by web181105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 13:58:48 PST TWF5YmUgdGhlIG9uZSB5b3UgYXJlIHRoaW5raW5nIG9mIGlzIEhhbnNvbiBSaXZldC7CoCBJIHVzZWQgdGhlbSBhbHNvIGZvciBteSB2YWx2ZSBjb3ZlciBwbGF0ZXMuwqAgVGhleSB1c3VhbGx5IHNlbGwgaW4gdGhlIDEwMHMgb3IgdGhvdXNhbmRzIG9mIHJpdmV0cywgYnV0IHRoZSBzYWxlc21hbiB0b2xkIG1lIGlmIEkgYm91Z2h0IGEgYnVja2luZyB0b29sICgxMCBidWNrcyBvciBzbykgaGUgd291bGQgc2VuZCBtZSBhIGRvemVuICJzYW1wbGVzIiBvZiBkaWZmZXJlbnQgc2l6ZXMgY2xvc2UgdG8gd2hhdCABMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 13:58:48 -0800 (PST) From: Michael MacLean To: Jay , spridgets@autox.team.net, 60bugeye@cebridge.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Maybe the one you are thinking of is Hanson Rivet. I used them also for my valve cover plates. They usually sell in the 100s or thousands of rivets, but the salesman told me if I bought a bucking tool (10 bucks or so) he would send me a dozen "samples" of different sizes close to what I needed. That was ten years ago. I still have the tool and more rivets than I will need for the BN2 I am doing. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 www.hansonrivet.com --- On Fri, 2/8/13, 60bugeye@cebridge.net <60bugeye@cebridge.net> wrote: From: 60bugeye@cebridge.net <60bugeye@cebridge.net> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats To: "Jay" , spridgets@autox.team.net Date: Friday, February 8, 2013, 6:59 PM There is a supplier of rivets in California I got mine from along with the rivets for the valve cover and other parts that needed to be riveted. I will find one of the packages this evening and post it. Leo -----Original Message----- From: Jay Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:42 AM To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats What about an industrial supplier such as McMaster-Carr? "Moss (US&UK) to do not show them" Shocking. A quick Google search: http://www.mcmaster.com/#rivets/=le1mi4 And there are other suppliers. http://www1.mscdirect.com/eCommerce/NavigationServlet/Fasteners-Adhesives/Riv ets-Threaded-Inserts-Tools/Rivets-Threaded-Inserts-Sheet-Metal-Fasteners/_/N- 77dvt http://www.bigflatsrivet.com/steel_rivets.html jay ________________________________ From: Martyn Ridley To: spridgets@autox.team.net Sent: Fri, February 8, 2013 10:37:18 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Seats Does anybody know where you can get the rivets used to hold the seat frame to the track. Moss (US&UK) to do not show them, nor does the parts manual. Nut and bolt foul the seat base or the track itself. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/60bugeye@cebridge.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike@att.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 15:10:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A375D40F60 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:10:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7825A40E9C for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:10:22 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=ogh1rTgtnlIMkSIczPzhIUrq8Ty6bMBn1EA4/MI7qSq4QgANrpZDLOVnhZq1b9l5; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [128.95.226.232] (helo=richball) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1U3w3q-0001t4-Vm for spridgets@autox.team.net; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 17:04:47 -0500 From: "Richard Ball" To: "'Spridgets List'" References: <1360286555.89513.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 14:04:45 -0800 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info: Now Minivan Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to everyone that gave up their options and information. I think it was helpful. So I talked with my daughter-In-Law last night and due to size concerns and the information I had for her she is now really looking at Chrysler Town & Country and Dodge Caravans. They have just the two kids, but she also watches her two year old Nephew four days a week so that makes for needing to have three car seats. That's hard to do with out a third row seat. I know Chrysler had some transmission problems in the 90's, but thought I'd ask what experiences you all may have had. She was all exited about one she saw and sent me the link to the dealer. I could see that the lights on right front were new and the ones on the left were the old faded ones and pointed out that it may have had some damage repaired. It is and isn't what she wanted me to say all at the same time. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 15:37:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3A7F40F5C for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:37:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57D84006F for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:29:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xo7A1k0050EZKEL53yQMK3; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 22:24:21 +0000 Received: from blackbox2 ([69.253.143.59]) by omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id xyQL1k01C1H6MAV3MyQMHp; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 22:24:21 +0000 From: "Dean Hedin" To: "'alan'" , References: Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:24:15 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4GDf47/XnMH4mEQuCoMOpgmk72hgAPO5hQ s=q20121106; t=1360362261; bh=Fnr+0wq5Sx7RO7nZUk0v2XDhIYpI74GwYXiW+6qcPx4=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=N8Q2Af9sM/uZOWUSf6CCDIK2P2A31m85Li4GvAoAWZX1MQnMN9PNmYYULGRo+FiH4 ftzR5GooixjcUzwVm8wg5+HWO3em29dcNIC7SI1uXxlHil+YZ2odxI5CuJTVhGttYE cnyTMi0tpIcyic44Pj7QGqKbAnFmeAvX+V0Umeh0fWbYkuRIpjh7ejHrXPpEYZFGg3 YbSmfRi2jxxlglyonNiNjSeSatG1CvPoO0Y5w1lnJePdA5vo9N/PCJy9/WlJD9Agv5 E2hY1RXcTMT1CUMr2V9hi9YsR5vRBIrN+yi5PZcloP8QddJkz3MTmX/liM5FAJa5uy 9canTgiEkv+Xw== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net What good books? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of alan Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:05 AM To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow As long as the list is a bit slow Here in Rhode Island we are hunkering down for what maybe up to 30b of snow without drifting Nboreaster about to slam New England and the east coast from NJ up thru Maine Wind gusts might reach 65 b 70 MPH with heavy drifting expected Worst to arrive after dark and overnite Have the coal stove cranking and several good books on standby along with my recently retired wife Alan ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 16:24:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C614226A for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 16:24:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f171.google.com (mail-vc0-f171.google.com [209.85.220.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6A4D40EB4 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 16:22:40 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id p1so2681452vcq.16 for ; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 15:17:04 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+g4EvWPEFeqcWiigfg2s1dxdkJcEJ/ehI6UCr9ich58=; b=BWSy2MzAfJ+WGTMTSWyNoh42moJfgXoieNCI40qG09j08Zqu9IGxwHradDKqzFaYPS cAbdA+XAwESKaNslcfujGddPuxB/kYO0vB/udH12mesbQcnVjYdIIWJz8mnE/wUaMa4E ToHUnqUebKKpD93Rjr7dFhM8QeGLrA0W8dYW09V6abyu8OeyteYVx/YHKv8SHz9JhMMR TWdCSUbd8lWqRxd+6CwWIVITBGNG1PY52K9y07IB+lBm1J1plWLEhAJVT/fkvbxFoJlm q/fE9a7sC6KEfg7Qp0NV+08zHCsvJva2SLWb0XMH0hfa8Ql74kVL4q10m4Uof/kvdp7i 7P6A== u6mr8797480vcv.52.1360365424762; Fri, 08 Feb 2013 15:17:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.117.9 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:17:04 -0800 (PST) References: <1360286555.89513.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <634D2E90C1544572BE4629D097E71EE3@psych.washington.edu> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 16:17:04 -0700 From: Jody Kerr To: Richard Ball Cc: Spridgets List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info: Now Minivan Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Overall they're great. My mum has had a succession of them from 1984 onwards. The only complaint that I have on the post 1997 ones is that the mandated TPMS valve stem is a total piece of rubbish, especially anywhere that it gets wet. My mum's current 2008 had a pair of them fail and I went round and round with Chrysler until I eventually told them where they could put their factory valve stems. Schraeder sells an aftermarket unit that's an old style brass & rubber valve stem but still has the correct 433mhz TPMS. Had those put on her car and now I don't worry about her driving it any more. The stow & go seats are awesome! Our brood 'o kids is going from 2 to 3 in a month or so and we'll likely sell our old explorer and get one of the Town and Country models. If they do go down this route I've got all the part #s for the valve stem/TPMS. Jody On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 3:04 PM, Richard Ball wrote: > Thanks to everyone that gave up their options and information. I think it was > helpful. > > So I talked with my daughter-In-Law last night and due to size concerns and > the information I had for her she is now really looking at Chrysler Town & > Country and Dodge Caravans. They have just the two kids, but she also watches > her two year old Nephew four days a week so that makes for needing to have > three car seats. That's hard to do with out a third row seat. > > I know Chrysler had some transmission problems in the 90's, but thought I'd > ask what experiences you all may have had. > > She was all exited about one she saw and sent me the link to the dealer. I > could see that the lights on right front were new and the ones on the left > were the old faded ones and pointed out that it may have had some damage > repaired. It is and isn't what she wanted me to say all at the same time. > > Rich Ball > '76 Midget > Everett, WA > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jodyfkerr@gmail.com -- http://www.theymightberacing.com/ 1953 Studebaker Champion 1960 Austin Healey 3000 (BT7L/5479) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (14291) 1974 Jensen Healey MKII (18854) 1978 Triumph Spitfire (Mum's) 1981 Triumph TR8 1970 MG MGB 1980 Triumph TR7 "Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so." --Douglas Adams ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 17:25:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F4240EDF for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:25:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm2.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (nm2.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.146.183.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D5D40698 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:25:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from [217.146.183.197] by nm2.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2013 00:19:38 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.130] by tm3.bt.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2013 00:19:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp827.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2013 00:19:38 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360369178; bh=eYjn1a6r20XbQ3tekiS7L/BBZ2TJdzcptnz5Fs+1Pqk=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-Antivirus; b=bncbiYAP5MB5CzM20xTLRP87dvosM79l/4ROZ7oAIr0dyb+gOyyTVzkDhsUNlFhfRSarB2U5OqvyV1SRM93CjYtvM6/GNwXzdYSRbPvKWH7TOKEBbpTwTOxWCUBWLI2nZ5d5RFyyY6F6DSbEhjY1CNUYi5tr6ynOnLdqReNDNG8= 3Ii5dVDOxbZ2KjyQ_iprQUjNvbJT69awc1dwgS3Sf.kImXyCBl6bxrxYVNbF 840O2IZjoMmg4gB.rNNFLcogvKXt0.5V1.CZnOSfkKuP_4jzd22zo0R5Y1mc QMwHiTcZYXPsvjAFon4wXIpx536ZGTheiUtaEkho2kE1GLJvtrZgAv_f5Be6 R0ksbpzF0fDSa4hi1SZVUNAi5HrLPC6QuhJkdVJ4neM7lYKk7KlbHS3.2c8Z 1p_oUPxxh6D.7mRA3vf79WrVUoj1gJLNut8MmuxVzg0tOC94Mm9j_Q.D1wXT fSKGoX6x4bvgMy_94tXi7kah0TzS.jbsr9p9J9IYeMgWwXbINtFgDrS4al8R cIrwEfVxs3Va8laLJlPwQGGl8tGv0eIjCp.AWnMxl7EO.Rq0cT06Ayt7zqMD JgVvYeiu46mGgx__E0yvgR_b8mTyCYNbzx1IJV29r2qE41WjqO7oMKWL0j7K qJGZ5PEleiKpeYOoL0SjFNKKT2dPbA9vSc0HE7BiW3nCsVJKBcGJkQWAu_7N rl4qe Received: from user8634b3d69b (grday@86.155.109.69 with login) by smtp827.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Feb 2013 16:19:38 -0800 PST From: "GUY DAY" To: References: Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 00:22:01 -0000 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net My in-laws used to live in Devon (UK) where they were making cider a couple of weeks before Bodicea or Boudicca (Buddug if you are Welsh) learnt to drive her chariot. I was down with them one summer a good few years ago when we visited one of the old time farmers who used to make his own cider. Cloudy, a wisp of froth round the edges of the mug and served at whatever the outside temperature was. Just a gill of that sent me walking in spirals and with a tongue thickening between my lips I asked how he made it. "Get the windfalls", came the reply, "put them in a sack (he was talking of a large hessian or gunny sack) and hang then up from the rafters in the cellar. When they've been there for a week or so put a half leg of pork in the middle of them and then a funnel underneath to drain into the barrel. Leave it and come late on in the New Year around Gwenton you'll have a brew to put hairs on your chest", he said, looking lustily down my wife's stretched low neck tee-shirt. I've heard of this way of making cider from a couple of sources although the pork was now beef and could well have been lamb and one year thought I would have a go. I'd got a sack full of apples from this chap and was driving home from Devon in a hired panel van with a roller shutter door. On the way back the catch came loose, the door vibrated open and the sack of apples slumped onto the van floor. So if any-one found a trail of squashed apples along the M5 northbound leading onto the M6 and the M62 that was going to be my home brewed cider. I never did go back for more. Good fortune to you all, Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Bastedo" To: Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow >I started homebrewing in 1978. > Funny when I look back on it, used an open top 5 gallon crock with malt > and > hops and water and yeast. > Laid a plastic cover over it just to keep most of the extraneous "stuff" > out. > That was a great top fermenting lager as I remember it. > Now I might not even want to try it but back then it was ambrosia. > > I recently discovered I have a great intolerance to gluten, therefore > beer. > I was pretty bummed out about this until just recently when I finally > thought "what about hard cider?". > I have the kegs and the fridge and the CO2 with the regulators and I'm > just > so completely set up for this. > So, not knowing any better (sometimes that is a good thing) I went to the > store and bought 5 gallons of Tree Top apple juice and four or five frozen > concentrated cans of Tree Top. > I chose Tree Top because of the commercially available apple juices out > there they are the only ones I could find that display right on the front > "Made only from apples grown in the USA". > So I went to my nearby wine & beer making shop and bought a new airlock > and > rubber stopper (with the hole in it for the airlock) and a package of > Wyeast Cider Yeast. > Went home, activated the yeast and put all the juices in the carboy. > Once the yeast pouch was getting nice and puffy I opened it up and pitched > it in. > Fermentation began rapidly, and went on for a week. > I racked it out into a clean carboy (I own several) and let it run for > another week. > By the end of the 2nd week it was clearing pretty nicely so I racked it > into a keg. > Hooked up the CO2, gave it some shakes and let it sit a few days. > This was at Christmas time, so I had nice bubbly hard cider for my guests > who came for Christmas dinner. > That was so good I decided to do it again. > Like any good brewer worth his salt I save packets of yeast from a good > batch, the Wyeast people say this will work fine up through about 7 > generations. > The second batch came out even better than the first. > > I know it would be better if I had a cider press and juiced my own apples > yada yada. > You can't argue with results however, and this stuff was great! > > Ok, there you go - hope all you guys and gals hunkered down for the storm > are well stocked and stay warm and dry. > > Rick Bastedo > > > ****************************************** > From: Jim Johnson <> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow > > Now if you fellows were home brewers you'd have some beer in your constant > 42F kegerator... > > Cheers!! > Jim - 5 gals of my Double IPA and 5 gals of my Snake Snot Stout in the > cooler with 5 gals of Amber Ale in the fermentor. > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday@btinternet.com > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2897 / Virus Database: 2639/6088 - Release Date: 02/07/13 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 8 19:19:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20CE942259 for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 19:19:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from txasav-vm07.suddenlink.net (txasav-vm07.suddenlink.net [208.180.40.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750EE40EDF for ; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 19:18:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from leosHP ([72.47.140.225]) by txasav-vm07.suddenlink.net (InterMail vM.8.04.01.08 201-2343-100-153-20121108) with ESMTP id <20130209021117.HNUC23375.txasav-vm07.suddenlink.net@leosHP>; Fri, 8 Feb 2013 20:11:17 -0600 From: <60bugeye@cebridge.net> To: "Michael MacLean" , "Jay" , References: <1360360728.16146.YahooMailClassic@web181105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 20:13:14 -0600 cv=pj97rWZ28UB8kLfmnsTZJouRq3qYSelmwyJagC3zNXI= c=1 sm=0 a=X6EWi9_stYMA:10 a=pVMl2t813bUA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=Mf1v_7_OAAAA:8 a=8cHjVLItAAAA:8 a=g8EB0Y9AAAAA:8 a=5lucXWJGAAAA:8 a=NS7y1Q0JAAAA:8 a=gvjPYoMOAAAA:8 a=7KAlNBJNAAAA:8 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=c5wV_mwg6dSyyMOoeMAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=wnrYmdMawgQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=VgdHWzi9AekA:10 a=KUe5-xK6SMEA:10 a=ZvGnWCJfGGMA:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=Y89mA_SwKk1St2hQ:21 a=AVY7QR-Hj1k_hDtc:21 a=fhuVvdCTjyXIrQK6r-wA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=yEeCPpIREcEBCQNg:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net That is exactly who it was and I did the same deal with bsamplesb lEO From: Michael MacLean Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 3:58 PM To: Jay ; spridgets@autox.team.net ; 60bugeye@cebridge.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats Maybe the one you are thinking of is Hanson Rivet. I used them also for my valve cover plates. They usually sell in the 100s or thousands of rivets, but the salesman told me if I bought a bucking tool (10 bucks or so) he would send me a dozen "samples" of different sizes close to what I needed. That was ten years ago. I still have the tool and more rivets than I will need for the BN2 I am doing. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 www.hansonrivet.com --- On Fri, 2/8/13, 60bugeye@cebridge.net <60bugeye@cebridge.net> wrote: From: 60bugeye@cebridge.net <60bugeye@cebridge.net> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats To: "Jay" , spridgets@autox.team.net Date: Friday, February 8, 2013, 6:59 PM There is a supplier of rivets in California I got mine from along with the rivets for the valve cover and other parts that needed to be riveted. I will find one of the packages this evening and post it. Leo -----Original Message----- From: Jay Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:42 AM To: wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats What about an industrial supplier such as McMaster-Carr? "Moss (US&UK) to do not show them" Shocking. A quick Google search: http://www.mcmaster.com/#rivets/=le1mi4 And there are other suppliers. http://www1.mscdirect.com/eCommerce/NavigationServlet/Fasteners-Adhes ives/Rivets-Threaded-Inserts-Tools/Rivets-Threaded-Inserts-Sheet-Metal-Fasten ers/_/N-77dvt http://www.bigflatsrivet.com/steel_rivets.html jay ________________________________ From: Martyn Ridley To: wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=spridgets@autox.team.net Sent: Fri, February 8, 2013 10:37:18 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Seats Does anybody know where you can get the rivets used to hold the seat frame to the track. Moss (US&UK) to do not show them, nor does the parts manual. Nut and bolt foul the seat base or the track itself. ------------------------ wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/60bugeye@cebridge.net ------------------------ wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike@att.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 9 07:17:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B92940E24 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 07:17:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D843A4054C for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 07:12:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from Home (ool-18ba44ce.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.68.206]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MHY00CSZHV19790@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:06:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 09:06:35 -0500 From: Michael Rowe To: Jody Kerr , Richard Ball References: <1360286555.89513.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <634D2E90C1544572BE4629D097E71EE3@psych.washington.edu> Cc: Spridgets List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info: Now Minivan Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net > The stow & go seats are awesome! I have a full 4'x8' sheet of 1/4" plywood in my minivan, and I use it as a truck. When I was whitewater kayaking, I slept in it. When I need the seats up for visitors, I just pull the plywood and stack it in the carport. Michael Rowe ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 9 12:29:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5E44068D for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 12:29:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from brantnet.kwic.com (brantnet.kwic.com [205.150.58.224]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98FED40564 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 12:18:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (adsl-64-136-114-131.kwic.com [64.136.114.131]) by brantnet.kwic.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r19JD5iW040286; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 14:13:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ridleymj@brant.net) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2013 14:13:09 -0500 From: Martyn Ridley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: spridgets@autox.team.net, Bert_raposo@hotmail.com References: <1360360728.16146.YahooMailClassic@web181105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <133B14BED3EA4F8CB3B27CD38FE0E301@leosHP> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for the info, much appreciated. Regards, Martyn On 2/8/2013 9:13 PM, 60bugeye@cebridge.net wrote: > That is exactly who it was and I did the same deal with bsamplesb > > lEO > > From: Michael MacLean > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 3:58 PM > To: Jay ; spridgets@autox.team.net ; 60bugeye@cebridge.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats > > Maybe the one you are thinking of is Hanson Rivet. I used them also for > my valve cover plates. They usually sell in the 100s or thousands of rivets, > but the salesman told me if I bought a bucking tool (10 bucks or so) he would > send me a dozen "samples" of different sizes close to what I needed. That was > ten years ago. I still have the tool and more rivets than I will need for the > BN2 I am doing. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > www.hansonrivet.com > > --- On Fri, 2/8/13, 60bugeye@cebridge.net <60bugeye@cebridge.net> > wrote: > > > From: 60bugeye@cebridge.net <60bugeye@cebridge.net> > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats > To: "Jay" , spridgets@autox.team.net > Date: Friday, February 8, 2013, 6:59 PM > > > There is a supplier of rivets in California I got mine from along with > the rivets for the valve cover and other parts that needed to be riveted. I > will find one of the packages this evening and post it. > > Leo > > -----Original Message----- From: Jay > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 9:42 AM > To: wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=spridgets@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats > > What about an industrial supplier such as McMaster-Carr? > > "Moss (US&UK) to do not show them" > > Shocking. > > A quick Google search: > > http://www.mcmaster.com/#rivets/=le1mi4 > > > And there are other suppliers. > > http://www1.mscdirect.com/eCommerce/NavigationServlet/Fasteners-Adhes > ives/Rivets-Threaded-Inserts-Tools/Rivets-Threaded-Inserts-Sheet-Metal-Fasten > ers/_/N-77dvt > > > http://www.bigflatsrivet.com/steel_rivets.html > > jay > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Martyn Ridley > To: wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=spridgets@autox.team.net > Sent: Fri, February 8, 2013 10:37:18 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Seats > > Does anybody know where you can get the rivets used to hold the seat > frame to > the track. Moss (US&UK) to do not show them, nor does the parts > manual. Nut > and bolt foul the seat base or the track itself. > ------------------------ > > wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/60bugeye@cebridge.net > ------------------------ > > wlmailhtml:/mc/compose?to=spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike@att.net > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ridleymj@brant.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 9 13:07:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1B2340E95 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 13:07:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm37-vm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm37-vm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.238.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDACB40E95 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 13:01:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.145] by nm37.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2013 19:55:48 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.225] by tm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2013 19:55:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1034.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Feb 2013 19:55:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 53127 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Feb 2013 19:55:48 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360439748; bh=Y0x7oDHqcBIiCYThfa1OjuhGWjv3izpJwdhZUNBczSg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6ib9EHqg0Lc4+ecLjKjLilqepjLYe1u3HU04pjgbAR1/SEKP5BgpfAGqZotlddgusSc4a9AuHH6HLH7/k6ejKZoZrR9u7QMZ1sdheu6wzjg9y7Sz6/yGchBlgJaxkw0f3NuRFF+QCUdjcctXxN+demb9nkX00Fqc69c0QnWUVZc= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fzDIjMEiDOkReof4Iu4y0Za8APi3P5tjlv/mftCfTmY+CC5FTyTlIQZ57+gb4NSyDLT+IVXQiPkGUEk0IQqhPgTIO6Ljg4sU6oZfCA+KpZ+yPRry2O95U6ImEhaTFd/wzzumZE/b39IGMT1dBihNt9HYUv+HuZs++4Jg9cEyN/I=; DHnIiYtUIg976tcrrlZemDouizhuwx2EBWeIl6cKwlG43T51Dw2teBBEnsz2 f8qlmTqKOqiyKm0f2lzc2jhJYJnhODONt0Lm9EWDLk3sYfjVyXXrBpNsXGhu JBUd1ntHhahtBDrqsiX3pR0e.uAYz9j4k1JnULHyynWQ0gwl3a1Zuws71IJq N7vvR22BP0SU0w2Y6eWC2fraG6eXQNvwY1Vip46jHbUpli_sGFPDw_xOoo1M S71i6dn2fKpfrMg78ZbIaaps1sV7McnzG_0f6mlQHbjbWFGlKuUFDeNHMs7V KLZVz_UaQy9_uTY.OPnTrm8wuFRpw2qVGocbz._uDGqUxNqYD.jXAW51ggMk 1VjUiE4Bm_o7qyxGaqX0YR7F9vlszuPV1KPm1zr0BOrayxc2Ae1Pz3vanOYl pbuAdHF1khm5m091mL9wyunDwseK2Pe5wLhflZ00dL2SbKVUiwIRt2o8- Received: from [76.235.54.35] by web162603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 11:55:48 PST SGV5IHRoZSBuZXcgVG9tIENsYW5jeSwgVGhyZWF0IFZlY3RvciwgwqBpcyBpbmRlZWQgYSBwYWdlIHR1cm5lci4gODUxIHRvIGJlIHByZWNpc2UuIFRoZSBndXkgY29udGludWVzIHRvIHN0YXkgb24gdG9wIG9mIGhpcyBnYW1lIGFuZCBzdHVmZiBvbiBjeWJlciB3YXJmYXJlIHNlZW1zIHJlYWxseSBjbG9zZSB0byByZWFsaXR5LgrCoApXb3JraW5nIHRocm91Z2ggYW4gb2xkIE5lbHNvbiBEZU1pbGxlIEkgbWlzc2VkIGNhbGxlZCBXaWxkZmlyZS4gQW5vdGhlciBwYWdlIHR1cm5lciB0byBiZSBzdXJlLiAKwqABMAEBAQE- Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 11:55:48 -0800 (PST) From: James Gruber To: Spridgets Digest Subject: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Hey the new Tom Clancy, Threat Vector, is indeed a page turner. 851 to be precise. The guy continues to stay on top of his game and stuff on cyber warfare seems really close to reality. Working through an old Nelson DeMille I missed called Wildfire. Another page turner to be sure. Message: 7 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:24:15 -0500 From: "Dean Hedin" To: "'alan'" , Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Message-ID: charset="us-ascii" What good books? ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 9 16:37:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9EE40E46 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:37:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0666740427 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:37:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yPLS1k0020QuhwU5BPXvgU; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 23:31:55 +0000 Received: from sz0042.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yPXv1k00U2ymm843NPXv3J; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 23:31:55 +0000 Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 23:31:55 +0000 (UTC) From: dlancer7676@comcast.net To: James Gruber (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) s=q20121106; t=1360452715; bh=xZdamagNmSuTz0JdyEl8UGaBKBZzKnIw555AWSZUG9I=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=J+I/XLD5B6Tch6R/l1UKhMUhYUTqNFGI1vdmcy9OxXI2QPxk4+OxWQnjaQ6EsAktj Ahqgh6Vi0VCLuk5oB9IxoC9Lut2mTCjLIBWgAVI8l67040yQlgUrblNG+SZczAsUHA 1vwZhVMdEHpLA+SRKBCc4KrIrRGmLh1hGvspOYmgXuwTzhfAQs1PEZtTGdJpuht/qI tDhpZCPUYlY98j9//msHqktMskjFjxj9QFfvio1OxbtZP/sTsRkNwXj1mds0Ldjmcf he/mrVdgoiNvoGYKUXMJGLqvQ3ATgS6MgXysePA9ULtUSVdBFAR9EVX6d0ojmBq8Ig n3M6d+pyJTrDA== Cc: Spridgets Digest Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Send me a good winter storm.B We've been pretty sanitary here (East Tennessee) this winter, unfortunately. But I am reading the first of the trilogy by Ken Follett, Fall of Giants.B Pretty good stuff and well written, as is characteristic of Follett. --David C. MyB B memory's not as sharp as it used to be.B Also, my memory's not as sharp as it used to be. B ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Gruber" To: "Spridgets Digest" Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 2:55:48 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Hey the new Tom Clancy, Threat Vector, B is indeed a page turner. 851 to be precise. The guy continues to stay on top of his game and stuff on cyber warfare seems really close to reality. B Working through an old Nelson DeMille I missed called Wildfire. Another page turner to be sure. B Message: 7 Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:24:15 -0500 From: "Dean Hedin" To: "'alan'" , Subject: Re: [Spridgets] as long as the list is slow Message-ID: charset="us-ascii" What good books? ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlancer7676@comcast.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 9 17:47:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8740440420 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 17:47:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A0D140413 for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 17:31:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2013 00:25:26 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.197] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2013 00:25:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1055.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2013 00:25:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 33732 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Feb 2013 00:25:26 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360455925; bh=AE2ATZ4dS8uL1o1Nv0lXBtUGL9qv2jKvsdtUrL16REI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tPfUXLeDlhVk5Cc4PsJqIkEN8ExQB0TjspOsoeptFaZVlFtiF9s2Uf+3uq3jdFq5cdHueyWQ9Luyx5EaoT9w3Q1i5YgvanCkIh1YktgG5wz0vsUd1ytBTvC5zSTfWHnVF3eVSrvKZmq3SfxLWxMYxhWBqXoiS3WSGz7ErFk0jiA= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SUCivnrlelY9YH0dgX1TqXXUQ7zG8Rw1Or5PYbT+nazg+HTBa6IhRj7b1wMz7m2mv7P0EPabn879vfvUA5drqzk5hjLM54lbaSdrY0g9gJ/PK346E/mmp5nnGk33VBy7ukibcMdtajYPY2rJjJvPetWHBwiFy3s9XwtkZ1EvJDA=; uRX0BX86OX8pYPq7eZk7mXgIxMbqK4Nu7nRd6aVhkwDWKUbWwSr6REbsJSXt 6sa4OvtLKXQk3_6QRoyFc6pjG7dLUYDibG2gjBKNdv9_z7oPtlQPeHNPDbTI asQhABv8F7QrzyW2PoBLnP3U2cakwqv1Kevs7ZabYCTtBQ_4mE.McwgPbPaP ZXI6AyRvwbuG.HJireCsEOlqCkaSCYyn55UGNBHZnB6qw83n66OCtwirhKAD SySd5de8jBhRnIR_Q3mdL97.KCC9IPdx4bRIYhe0brsYgYiKyOCVveza.IkQ axp1laaa22nPKiGrHShDltnk33DzjKI7l6Hfm7T0t1n8gd.3CKdRTEQXmO0l X3zjFiKRmChMcDOvyg2iZwR4caWgr7qeVPsHYbXtAxnipt_KKF23O52JS1bK FjVBu7CxwlKJgoVKHfYrWZz6YSP.GeZZmoAmMkb81Ki73bNUkAwGpgyZqgCm Rn6Fnj5_0Ab1yEmWoqChWJsuF3fW06.Op0GdP3oyXtY83D.Fu9RZVWFn3kKK iGWaWwoUWWJzJgQzIDexoA0Ty3r.PCRxKtTy4SG4m9h3w1AKYZgUIZrOFTp. d3HlnbEOrfy7vMZyYdHQKHH8cbwDv75EbfuCGCPHAYmwVHhKeDrw3bILm6ec - Received: from [98.208.176.148] by web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 16:25:25 PST ODUxIHBwP8KgIFNvbWV0aW1lcywgQ2xhbmN5IGNvdWxkIHNwYXJlIG1lIHNvbWUgZGV0YWlscy7CoCBXaHkgZG9lcyBoaXMgc3R1ZmYgaGF2ZSB0byBiZSBsaWtlOgoKIlRoZSBzbmlwZXIgY3JhZGxlZCBoaXMgUmVtaW5ndG9uIE1TUiBjaGFtYmVyZWQgaW4gCi4zMzggTGFwdWEgTWFnbnVtLMKgIEhlIGxvYWRlZCB0aGUgMTQuOTPCoG1tIGRpYW1ldGVyIGFuZCA5My41wqBtbSBsb25nIGNhcnRyaWRnZcKgIG1hbnVmYWN0dXJlZCBpbiBMYXB1YSwgRmlubGFuZCB3aGljaCBpcyBsb2NhdGVkIG5leHQgdG8gdGgBMAEBAQE- References: <1360439748.48116.YahooMailNeo@web162603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:25:25 -0800 (PST) From: HealeyRick To: James Gruber , Spridgets Digest Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net 851 pp? Sometimes, Clancy could spare me some details. Why does his stuff have to be like: "The sniper cradled his Remington MSR chambered in .338 Lapua Magnum, He loaded the 14.93 mm diameter and 93.5 mm long cartridge manufactured in Lapua, Finland which is located next to the Lapua River in the province of Western Finland and is part of the Southern Ostrobothnia region. The town has a population of 14,612 (31 December 2012) and covers an area of 750.77 square kilometres (289.87 sq mi) of which 13.67 km2 (5.28 sq mi) is water. The population density is 19.82 inhabitants per square kilometre (51.3 /sq mi)" You get the idea. OTOH, maybe I'm just mad at him for the day I was flying Boston to Phoenix and grabbed a Clancy book at the airport bookstore for the flight. About 20 pages in, I realized I had already read it. It was a very long flight. Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo ________________________________ From: James Gruber To: Spridgets Digest Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 2:55 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Hey the new Tom Clancy, Threat Vector, is indeed a page turner. 851 to be precise. The guy continues to stay on top of his game and stuff on cyber warfare seems really close to reality. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 9 17:50:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DF2940E9D for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 17:50:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm35-vm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm35-vm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.103]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05529403CF for ; Sat, 9 Feb 2013 17:47:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2013 00:42:00 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.236] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2013 00:42:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1036.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2013 00:42:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 5007 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Feb 2013 00:41:59 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360456919; bh=okDHkwPqg/y5bvWvavjg4H2rqhjMCeoUG6cUHmuPu6E=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yWTVkb2VDyye/jBnudPuDxwr9GiHuJSHKmSQMsM4e/qWz1TjMNx+wF6uUclBfRnximTlutMC0+++/H80XWAcTaLTaq7Hh0Q9Pp7Dw/OF0SupjMEksH2T6//SpUQvWKa8fm+U4ElkqImQ70bh6NRPJOgUegrPSp7YPFJTM2WauFQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=p2/uy1klA6k4UZJ50BL/y9VnZ5T166Vxgpw29EALdjtxavNFyZfSV4ExEAwo0MW2DYoLwtwaLDTGQQVtOA1BHRjden3t/0Vz7tFerdvLTMcJ+GGzkj2JPTt6FqdS+iEKpmVZgf7vX9oqK7IMtppxva3ePCIbVyzJRQ1dmWdxwqY=; G8Ei8Ab_HTGu6uJPkBOzbxTKmCqs0b5v4YGM7Zf5L4H6O2XwlVyGhHyUaJHP 4a8JmecBsUGLAI6Zz02Bb5QGmoIaVK_4kSDvpBG9u9A1AG5K1KtDZkR9Svgk 0aDGEjuAcixCYoWsd9pkcJ5j4bcgbhYFiluMcMcqzF4khV1zzgaV_GI4yB__ B.Za5DXEt5R5093ncx0mGH5kNxO.ONDQfXlztRzRFrD2_uXuHe1Z.vWzq6rC 1jreudultO0V_NtzHQbV0Q_t33eDXX0IrFgEo82aKkBNhPX7qA.Sq6JVYXDC pm_lT9Edx1EWSMxvFRd6mbM8tmx11cQNo4eU42nmegCcn5uuMjNzs_C5tpqR 6TR6ze6X.8qhtqgdNHVhDLOoCcx91a2B.vusPsZNIT8ZpFDB2dIwpJWsub4U 7BZ9yLuFasyPQEjPcqpXd2llp8_RS8gk219ajvrbl5HE4zJnK5NFQ5GhRS0n u2uvjaTsGVdKZ3gwvDWUU89n3wMEpT9yQFgSULR_.LpXz2WrM32Bc96IE18J .orY5H6dVew3cBfdYnlLJ2avU.HadZGFh8a2NF1EI3e6dKV9K3JNW.GBzIhT fA.tJ3KzHFZdHOTdt0kXGQHu.VZ3KVmikMBjwg.LBXLLLormDJCuRnCMPzas - Received: from [98.208.176.148] by web124704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 09 Feb 2013 16:41:59 PST CgrCoAoKODUxIHBwP8KgIFNvbWV0aW1lcywgQ2xhbmN5IGNvdWxkIHNwYXJlIG1lIHNvbWUgZGV0YWlscy7CoCBXaHkgZG9lcyBoaXMgc3R1ZmYgaGF2ZSB0byBiZSBsaWtlOgoKIlRoZSBzbmlwZXIgY3JhZGxlZCBoaXMgUmVtaW5ndG9uIE1TUiBjaGFtYmVyZWQgaW4gCi4zMzggTGFwdWEgTWFnbnVtLMKgIEhlIGxvYWRlZCB0aGUgMTQuOTPCoG1tIGRpYW1ldGVyIGFuZCA5My41wqBtbSBsb25nIGNhcnRyaWRnZcKgIG1hbnVmYWN0dXJlZCBpbiBMYXB1YSwgRmlubGFuZCB3aGljaCBpcyBsb2NhdGVkIG5leHQBMAEBAQE- References: <1360439748.48116.YahooMailNeo@web162603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1360455925.33659.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:41:59 -0800 (PST) From: HealeyRick To: Spridgets List Subject: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net 851 pp? Sometimes, Clancy could spare me some details. Why does his stuff have to be like: "The sniper cradled his Remington MSR chambered in .338 Lapua Magnum, He loaded the 14.93 mm diameter and 93.5 mm long cartridge manufactured in Lapua, Finland which is located next to the Lapua River in the province of Western Finland and is part of the Southern Ostrobothnia region. The town has a population of 14,612 (31 December 2012) and covers an area of 750.77 square kilometres (289.87 sq mi) of which 13.67 km2 (5.28 sq mi) is water. The population density is 19.82 inhabitants per square kilometre (51.3 /sq mi)" You get the idea. OTOH, maybe I'm just mad at him for the day I was flying Boston to Phoenix and grabbed a Clancy book at the airport bookstore for the flight. About 20 pages in, I realized I had already read it. It was a very long flight. Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo ________________________________ From: James Gruber To: Spridgets Digest Sent: Saturday, February 9, 2013 2:55 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Hey the new Tom Clancy, Threat Vector, is indeed a page turner. 851 to be precise. The guy continues to stay on top of his game and stuff on cyber warfare seems really close to reality. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 10 03:09:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E9F403A6 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 03:09:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DBF840406 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 03:09:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2EDCA1C000090 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 05:03:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-doc001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-doc001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.160.193]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 571A9E000081 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 05:03:37 -0500 (EST) From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 05:03:37 -0500 (EST) To: spridgets@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360490618; bh=GNuyvUHsCpwbek30DRb+lqpe/4ESnRQvZfwCszOARVE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=e0sV43uqh8uqDNLdYl+efB9+eQTFEJF5VXpxyduSnjF+zlITZfXGlhE37IotJNJv/ wwAZhUV2kvAMPJTKwgfqR6k2FRHT1YUMH22Eg/OvV8+F97B3wcYAk0AKVedu4szRnv JcrxQ8B2BDBnPzCfSKkOC9ArtPNavtuCyjo/j7YE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b51177079637a Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I almost never read fiction books. I thought you guys would be sitting by a fire side reading 'Costin and Phipps' suspension book and finding the error in the narrative that Arthur Mallock refers to confirmed by the calculations in the back of the book. He describes this, If I'm correct as 'The myth that led to the great mistake'. How biographies of: Joseph Whitworth, Bessemar, Ricardo, the Wright brothers etc Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 10/02/2013 00:44:35 GMT Standard Time, healeyrick@yahoo.com writes: Clancy could spare me some details ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 10 09:00:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC4D40521 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 09:00:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.168]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id DF61440405 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 08:55:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2013 15:49:27 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.235] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2013 15:49:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1044.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2013 15:49:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 27703 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Feb 2013 15:49:27 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360511367; bh=1NkZkPvzddPS/Gg37P8/Sv3/BMKAK4/yQ/Ep+ZsOcBg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nwzgRHLSJwiluh0RFWNW1cgKST3W6v+7vCOXGcW2+4uXaF4Ek5TPxreSjcDQLaq0TLfauRSDPa0Vv2NVBqkO87JfA3MgzEveHqsQKw2vvAGTkgUa5dpPiajo37m/ZThDBQUIpULbaiyS3yw84OEwbSR0jUkRBuY2IIPCH856MVw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nNit1tYjD76iPmN5EYae6pcvRxC3XWmJ/LjfYQnnRYeiEZcxz2iqFTOfKBRMt9eEkQ/TuR4zP14m3UrzmL21U0A3tqLEz7Le819F7m5mhgFfPuJKnmezx10P9r0w8OUoINffp/JS8OipomSsAeopgB/24taXVKl8tC9YuWJHifo=; rgwdkY.yHYo_OpcYrE5zrhMTWwx3Er4MfUhTS7snwk2ZtYiC1N1FE1_RwF31 ZrRsSU8INDr4ruXhdhK2Qjmnw3Gk1Gqsp1CnW7LHebQoL4DYcvTtwALX0yDE 4OC9nLoFsWwG9rAVJPBHFutp.1RwikyXAMLw368hMxSPxn1pOAsg8HLkpLlJ _fsdWod9wTaWxr0w.Szbc7y1EHopr9pOQLdhxyIQY6qfwZY47bcQat24nmKm zBrt_DCRBssCk4xXuWkKjtEK3Ei9j57DsaJTtzSrDYQUF2Sd6O5JzHCa0Fs3 kOrmpqa42UGddcPLnlxG5NQiadEQq_Y1Ho4uDHUtT4YunJ.lWP0rYa1izm4v q1fv1vH3CSRwW_XI6E_V8UjqqoN_8A3in5zUjId70KWl3mIIML0sbp22zOSn xtSju5NZ1Z1tZ8uXxRwHdBt7Z98a3EtaNaPidulCSAcYDEe5o453kA3Qpew7 xlBn9qdsi.Z7TOgtRnTQYJoMQcCchsRmZQcRmXtKqyunbKn4gUeEBUXXtrqq RyU3jSb68ZtGANQvYRio- Received: from [68.194.16.194] by web141403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 07:49:27 PST SSByZWFkIGxvdHMsIG1vc3Qgb2YgdGhlIHRpbWUgSSdtIHNwbGl0dGluZyBteSB0aW1lIGJldHdlZW4gdHdvIGJvb2tzIGF0IG9uY2UuwqAgSSBhbHNvIGxpc3RlbiB0byBib29rcyBvbiBDRCBkdXJpbmcgbXkgZGFpbHkgY29tbXV0ZS4gSSBoYXZlIG9uZSBmaWN0aW9uIGdvaW5nIHJpZ2h0IG5vdyB0aGF0IEknbSBzdGlsbCBub3QgZW50aXJlbHkgc3VyZSBJIGxpa2UgLSBidXQgaXQgaXMgYnVpbGRpbmcgdXAgdG8gc29tZXRoaW5nIGFuZCB3YXMgcmVjb21tZW5kZWQgYnkgdmVyeSBhdHRyYWN0aXZlIGZyaWUBMAEBAQE- References: <74d0.552eb63d.3e48ca78@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 07:49:27 -0800 (PST) From: David Booker To: "WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com" , "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I read lots, most of the time I'm splitting my time between two books at once. I also listen to books on CD during my daily commute. I have one fiction going right now that I'm still not entirely sure I like - but it is building up to something and was recommended by very attractive friend, so I'll definitely finish it. The other book I'm reading - re-reading actually - is Mark Donahue's masterpiece, "The Unfair Advantage". I had a copy years ago when it was out of print and hard to find. Unfortunately, I loaned it to somebody who never returned it so have not read it years. I asked for it for Christmas this year, and my sister got it for me, so I'm devouring it. It is a great read for any gearhead, but should be required reading for anybody who competes or drives anywhere near the edge with any vehicle. On second thought - you don't want it to be widely read because then everybody would have the heightened understanding of vehicle dynamics, engine building theory, entry/apex/exit dissection, rulebook "interpretation", etc. The biggest thing I took away from it is how important a strong work ethic is to success. Mark Donahue simply worked harder for success than anybody else did. Seriously - as drivers of sports cars, this book should be on every one of our bookshelves. (and no, you can't borrow mine) David Booker ________________________________ From: "WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com" To: spridgets@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 5:03 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a Winter's Storm I almost never read fiction books. I thought you guys would be sitting by a fire side reading 'Costin and Phipps' suspension book and finding the error in the narrative that Arthur Mallock refers to confirmed by the calculations in the back of the book. He describes this, If I'm correct as 'The myth that led to the great mistake'. How biographies of: Joseph Whitworth, Bessemar, Ricardo, the Wright brothers etc Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 10/02/2013 00:44:35 GMT Standard Time, healeyrick@yahoo.com writes: Clancy could spare me some details ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 10 09:15:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C668B4056C for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 09:15:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.102]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFF74044E for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 09:13:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.191] by nm24.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2013 16:07:36 -0000 Received: from [98.137.0.71] by tm12.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2013 16:07:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp123-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2013 16:07:36 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360512456; bh=y3MwNb1Lw1ZsJuSev4vLQt52sBmdZZ4yEzexZjrzmVg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=kzjFsiIJGyUDHaWjT4wW2VcRw5tmR2ZWwKDv/qed1sOqj+BBwAqmfTomCnE2GOdLh5EB5zivJGLxTpjPLAQROnpTo0CByX/AtVtRKRwHKPnqlAHnklJshF7xaYeQh2tyr3SQAKv1lIhyj6lor40WX2s/WnIEnBr/AEhoEDtQ6qw= 04AZnnyeAnMuVTkzRr23.kk1ELTtmVYhSS2uQsqp5QnjY8DnCNSApcPLomqj A.LfRmuYTcRuslgwzqxrLZ787aLxQth.MVDm1CVMD2ZhOYOwXlKYahE_rW3h wc9h50fY4qb2Fc_S4ibWipaOB2N6oBxHNoBNOUyOp9S21wIEs1BPCf2d81NQ igAQxVtbpiAOMJmxr_qKd0PBrAjGVYSRIk8OethyB1eJF0AWE.ZoyLntOdLV IZtaNrcKQu8vAaBs21DPGJr.FiJ6zDpjPBFo8uB5Cys6Oe5In.chAw6g.ZOJ nkojazEk8bj7tEqP4qKMoDNixHo58cEmOkk9wmZXwLnkMaC1B7gXKPF2CZYA 450_PV6R761Fn_NoRQ8mklww2JRElz0zFAWLxb55UlvbK8lbIA4DjL9MzFAX Bk8q1dedikfwUL6FIZwlGj7_ZD9WpCVnbwAKMCR13zD9E2oL8ehVQV0S7OPf ArPrvnT5Y2AAmuzn8a78_3Yg2 Received: from [192.168.1.103] (jfishbein@64.252.13.186 with xymcookie) by smtp123-mob.biz.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Feb 2013 16:07:36 +0000 UTC References: <74d0.552eb63d.3e48ca78@aol.com> <1360511367.27328.YahooMailNeo@web141403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Jay Fishbein Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 11:07:33 -0500 To: David Booker Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net The Unfair Advantage - great book. Jay On Feb 10, 2013, at 10:49 AM, David Booker wrote: > I read lots, most of the time I'm splitting my time between two books at > once. I also listen to books on CD during my daily commute. I have one > fiction going right now that I'm still not entirely sure I like - but it is > building up to something and was recommended by very attractive friend, so > I'll definitely finish it. The other book I'm reading - re-reading actually - > is Mark Donahue's masterpiece, "The Unfair Advantage". I had a copy years ago > when it was out of print and hard to find. Unfortunately, I loaned it to > somebody who never returned it so have not read it years. I asked for it for > Christmas this year, and my sister got it for me, so I'm devouring it. > > It is > a great read for any gearhead, but should be required reading for anybody who > competes or drives anywhere near the edge with any vehicle. On second thought > - you don't want it to be widely read because then everybody would have the > heightened understanding of vehicle dynamics, engine building theory, > entry/apex/exit dissection, rulebook "interpretation", etc. The biggest thing > I took away from it is how important a strong work ethic is to success. Mark > Donahue simply worked harder for success than anybody else did. > > Seriously - > as drivers of sports cars, this book should be on every one of our > bookshelves. (and no, you can't borrow mine) > > David Booker > ________________________________ > From: "WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com" > > To: spridgets@autox.team.net > Sent: Sunday, > February 10, 2013 5:03 AM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a > Winter's Storm > > I almost never read fiction books. I thought you guys would > be sitting by > a fire side reading 'Costin and Phipps' suspension book and > finding the > error in the narrative that Arthur Mallock refers to confirmed > by the > calculations in the back of the book. He describes this, If I'm > correct as 'The > myth that led to the great mistake'. > > How biographies of: > Joseph Whitworth, Bessemar, Ricardo, the Wright > brothers etc > > Weslake-Monza > 1330 > > > In a message dated 10/02/2013 00:44:35 GMT Standard Time, > healeyrick@yahoo.com writes: > > Clancy could spare me some details > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: > http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1@yahoo.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jfishbein@snet.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 10 09:45:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA0240546 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 09:45:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gh0-f179.google.com (mail-gh0-f179.google.com [209.85.160.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8FE40452 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 09:41:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-gh0-f179.google.com with SMTP id r14so1151266ghr.10 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 08:35:55 -0800 (PST) h=x-received:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to; bh=PCtCyld2w/yrk2UI3VzSHHoV74mJhRTaFDSvrAfwQjA=; b=t0NVmzAC8a9vtpHJ9WY2rIXY0VcMbn2cwfEn4DLcQ7pB9M/vaGoe/NRWEOesG7ww6I wyIKGWUs4+gpeDAryXa+m/GvnjpKRr4aeqh4NIwssjGTJQRaohxqpTyWvAxCrEGHaIcE LvnEXY+hf3I+Hf2fRNWP3uq5QNqoaqLx8YPHnJN4DIoRCoku8fPlfJNpeFC8P4CmVwch H0QPoMaGUFEZe4HQOgrgxbJJOnUj/ADjetPO2xfJ18iv/kVFkVwxyCHbq/OYWmF/s7Ng YKw59v0gtmtp9DECqpJ+HoAFHiVst+OlRiAQI/Nobzp47Eoo4CUP/H5hXAp/26pOBRb2 Qz4w== c63mr14735717yhi.91.1360514155817; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 08:35:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.111.153.207] ([166.205.48.22]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t8sm31364792anj.2.2013.02.10.08.35.50 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 10 Feb 2013 08:35:54 -0800 (PST) References: <74d0.552eb63d.3e48ca78@aol.com> <1360511367.27328.YahooMailNeo@web141403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Derf Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 10:35:46 -0600 To: Jay Fishbein Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net The Skunk Works by Ben Rich. On Feb 10, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Jay Fishbein wrote: > The Unfair Advantage - great book. > > Jay > > On Feb 10, 2013, at 10:49 AM, David Booker wrote: > >> I read lots, most of the time I'm splitting my time between two books at >> once. I also listen to books on CD during my daily commute. I have one >> fiction going right now that I'm still not entirely sure I like - but it is >> building up to something and was recommended by very attractive friend, so >> I'll definitely finish it. The other book I'm reading - re-reading actually > - >> is Mark Donahue's masterpiece, "The Unfair Advantage". I had a copy years > ago >> when it was out of print and hard to find. Unfortunately, I loaned it to >> somebody who never returned it so have not read it years. I asked for it > for >> Christmas this year, and my sister got it for me, so I'm devouring it. >> >> It is >> a great read for any gearhead, but should be required reading for anybody > who >> competes or drives anywhere near the edge with any vehicle. On second > thought >> - you don't want it to be widely read because then everybody would have the >> heightened understanding of vehicle dynamics, engine building theory, >> entry/apex/exit dissection, rulebook "interpretation", etc. The biggest > thing >> I took away from it is how important a strong work ethic is to success. > Mark >> Donahue simply worked harder for success than anybody else did. >> >> Seriously - >> as drivers of sports cars, this book should be on every one of our >> bookshelves. (and no, you can't borrow mine) >> >> David Booker >> ________________________________ >> From: "WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com" >> >> To: spridgets@autox.team.net >> Sent: Sunday, >> February 10, 2013 5:03 AM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a >> Winter's Storm >> >> I almost never read fiction books. I thought you guys would >> be sitting by >> a fire side reading 'Costin and Phipps' suspension book and >> finding the >> error in the narrative that Arthur Mallock refers to confirmed >> by the >> calculations in the back of the book. He describes this, If I'm >> correct as 'The >> myth that led to the great mistake'. >> >> How biographies of: >> Joseph Whitworth, Bessemar, Ricardo, the Wright >> brothers etc >> >> Weslake-Monza >> 1330 >> >> >> In a message dated 10/02/2013 00:44:35 GMT Standard Time, >> healeyrick@yahoo.com writes: >> >> Clancy could spare me some details >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: >> http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: >> http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1@yahoo.com >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jfishbein@snet.net > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 10 10:17:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E6DD40540 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 10:17:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm36.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm36.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF3940511 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 10:11:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.144] by nm36.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2013 17:06:04 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.237] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2013 17:06:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1046.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Feb 2013 17:06:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 77294 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Feb 2013 17:06:04 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360515964; bh=ZmTPsLbvsBmw8dXzjO2goux8VF4GWESPmcanROj7tu4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=c5H9JPHKD6luk2bqudElAEG3bmECVmBYG+giv22eOdB/t0cZihlvAmD9tNQTI1SUCOZ/kVea69f3tQLcmxXgUhsXALcWdUqvtpbiz2EC6h7be98RZ/gdo37W/RbcOTqH/zPoiWlm/zq+cv3ggDMoll5ODaJwT8RgpmuOZ92toqo= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yGGdgoswJ3Di/FLS2OXai0CqKCHgG8YuPJiyr5kjj8/vqJ+ivwT+WirV/5FLs5kvDDSylm6wqzp31xG5BJh2bLL+lqbxkDAEbl+5LQ4AW/IhLSTy4rJE7ssk8tvYRa9vrJvQjvELBgQf4zCmJ6CmR4m/pD6J0An63uU0NitYcFk=; 6wRYF_PZ.Pwow1cSScQo_JnjVCHvqUHaRNiDiKh.pqqFdVYeSJEjenfulPqn sNQPuZ5SpGE61.zz57ExCF_vYE0LTiK68ScMgH.XSVzPZyPiOPaMUKkRQK7_ YqrvV9x9wB0yJshiv3hK2O9Uusda4wHZ8it4uwDRTxW7wbfPEllpR4gLzPCV goH2DPJe7owJv0KqNT5vDVqTHuRrNqiIOr0EN6Ol3UEQWRe8xj7FXTlddSz7 qOwiC0MLkhzx6LuvirubtJMATcOOcPQLMB12GjKVh8kgKep5jcmdy1Uyvpk4 ma0ca1GnA7KGNAcsOZ3OQ2K5omo3MXIw1d5_42A_BueyACUI6Gq5uI78JjVQ 3rPbqOFozEYtWyHg7sveCgs.nX.2SfMbp3cUeBDv1o8ne4rnfXqArVEedRbU B9kMbK6jflIDHfj6jstWKr7zxHVJQaLaM7ScJ27zg8nyw7WQwomhTSnEo8E2 pTjGJt6NeTx5cT2X8dL0cvRlxkgrsNR0cdRnREizIQFxu3fQGhVImjDJGBtG 9GXxs401RcZyQu3vXOH6lqaFAZHPnBhLFJVbLtRWvkAovvNiNwM5AB..oyJQ kkG6dGIykn9iEskB28MAUA.Bj8VgBQA-- Received: from [98.25.29.86] by web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 09:06:04 PST V2UgaGFkIG91cnMgZm9yIHNldmVyYWwgeWVhcnMuIEl0IHdvcmtlZCBvdXQgZ3JlYXQuwqAgTG92ZWQgdGhlIGZvbGQgYW5kIHR1bWJsZSBzZWF0cy7CoCBXZSBnb3QgaXQgcHJpbWFyaWx5IGJlY2F1c2Ugd2UgaGFkIGJvdGgga2lkcyBpbiBjYXIgY2FycmllcnMgYW5kIGl0IHdhcyByb29teSBlbm91Z2ggZm9yIGFsbCBvZiB1cyBwbHVzIGFueSBjb21wYW55IHRoYXQgd2FzIHZpc2l0aW5nLsKgIEdyZWF0IHJpZywgbm8gcHJvYmxlbXMgd2hhdHNvZXZlci7CoCBPbmUgdGhpbmcgSSBkaWQgbm90aWNlIGlzIHQBMAEBAQE- References: <1360286555.89513.YahooMailNeo@web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <634D2E90C1544572BE4629D097E71EE3@psych.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 09:06:04 -0800 (PST) From: Edward Perez To: Richard Ball , 'Spridgets List' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info: Now Minivan Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net We had ours for several years. It worked out great. Loved the fold and tumble seats. We got it primarily because we had both kids in car carriers and it was roomy enough for all of us plus any company that was visiting. Great rig, no problems whatsoever. One thing I did notice is that they are extremely hard on front brakes. They don't last very long at all. I would get an extended warranty with it if it's used and has lots of power options. At around 100K, a lot of the power features started to fail. That was when we traded it in. Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: Richard Ball To: 'Spridgets List' Sent: Friday, February 8, 2013 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] non LBC Subaru Outback Info: Now Minivan Thanks to everyone that gave up their options and information. I think it was helpful. So I talked with my daughter-In-Law last night and due to size concerns and the information I had for her she is now really looking at Chrysler Town & Country and Dodge Caravans. They have just the two kids, but she also watches her two year old Nephew four days a week so that makes for needing to have three car seats. That's hard to do with out a third row seat. I know Chrysler had some transmission problems in the 90's, but thought I'd ask what experiences you all may have had. She was all exited about one she saw and sent me the link to the dealer. I could see that the lights on right front were new and the ones on the left were the old faded ones and pointed out that it may have had some damage repaired. It is and isn't what she wanted me to say all at the same time. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 10 14:08:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E4F40567 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:08:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from brantnet.kwic.com (brantnet.kwic.com [205.150.58.224]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF25140529 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:02:33 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (adsl-64-136-114-131.kwic.com [64.136.114.131]) by brantnet.kwic.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r1AKuiAL010389 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:56:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ridleymj@brant.net) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 15:56:51 -0500 From: Martyn Ridley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] 10 Books you should read regardless of the weather Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Outside of number one, there is no particular order of importance. Yes, you can substitue several of the tomes for likewse but remember that these were chosen because of their insight (or lies in the case of Touch Wood) and similar books on the subject will not give your the flavour. 1. Tuning the A Series Engine - David Vizard - you should own it! 2. Original Sprite and Midget - Terry Horler 3. The Stainless Steel Carrot - Sylvia Wilkinson 4. The Leyland Papers - Graham Turner 5. Sprites and Midgets - Anders Ditlev Clausager 6. The Art and Technicalities of Grand Prix driving - Nicolas Andres Lauda 7. TVR Success Against the Odds - Peter Filby 8. The Sprites and Midgets - Eric Dymock 9. Lucky All My Life - Jeff Crew And now 10. POMEs - Touch Wood - Duncan Hamilton Yanks - The Mudge Pond Express - Sam Posey Cannucks - Both, as lets face it we have to be able to talk to these people Honourable Mentions: All but my Life - Ken Purdy MG - Wilson McComb (mandatory if you also own a MGB) Brirish Racing Green - Anthony Prichard and of couse Anything and Everything written by or about Denis S Jenkinson ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 10 17:56:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098B640E46 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:56:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6474056E for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:52:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ylm81k0050xGWP854omzHM; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:46:59 +0000 Received: from blackbox2 ([69.253.143.59]) by omta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id yomy1k00j1H6MAV3YomyFs; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:46:59 +0000 From: "Dean Hedin" To: , References: <74d0.552eb63d.3e48ca78@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:46:51 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4HdetEzDBxNkIyTe+3pSeg3FBXJQAd+q8w s=q20121106; t=1360543619; bh=o4+X4aDUJACVDNVh1aVJC2HJ1RFrWVyX5RTyzJub13U=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=WZ34k/b4MugaaXURhWZFy6kIr1ZCYTHTKtpN2tQYJKvFf0YTBBuEHe4laqytistKV P2sceGA3VGV9mCBajmKUDky6e3aP1opK0to/tybDnZupS5/ugkOPLLwIyisi4lGe7/ iqV7Iv46lQHp0W4/zNJ9dLBhjWe23VLSFyuV5ogyAySRHiwLxWV+JcQfLSucdjLCsX Ivbc2Z7DIhT09dMSUZjYFUPRKhofQOVzaC9XVf5oY4Hn8f9hpX6DyDlmS325vcNX89 fqc42lhK4gfCMSyx/6fi+8EsBVmbQUgiKDB0B+dVC2+ToHglyMoNX+zV6ObCwD3O4q S6fCW6L1pi/Ug== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I'm not too big on fiction either. The exception would be some good sci-fi books (Frank Herbert's Dune, H.G. Wells etc..) Real life adventure. Like "The Endurance" (Shackleton's expedition). Stuff like that.. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 5:04 AM To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a Winter's Storm I almost never read fiction books. I thought you guys would be sitting by a fire side reading 'Costin and Phipps' suspension book and finding the error in the narrative that Arthur Mallock refers to confirmed by the calculations in the back of the book. He describes this, If I'm correct as 'The myth that led to the great mistake'. 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ZQyYbzlWjQJ0nTMQ1tgly_smPnSHCiLJSHdxfQQkdK8DYkRDh7hOFFc6NuEW _pctJ9ZZ98.rRSyFF9NbwERGAnEEwrkUOKKGzEMaUv1aq8ASzjJAQaMyO3CA Sdu9xSQoCptpZhDBCK2RGCA8uCnl8zbd7518zgjY2GMVVG.BVw6c4sYbjdfz HPfSzMTxbcqgJyZfno5s0.SvzE0KW_K_pgwvfUBP_mdyZkZ9PwIfP8eolbHj gYteDEIWhEDuYHVu_DhVZ26W_NkT2vXGn8wS9VF.hMqR.62ZGNHkYM6StIXn D8SyeUZ3GcHPn4q1BnbQPSPQEUrH9_UO6hhh.0xFpNG3UhFgDD9fQwJ_5OQq eKJaXhLzojxqVn6F3MSYDuDgWtaOAuECBupRYEfuMyK1SBEhU6fL0XgI- Received: from [68.194.16.194] by web141404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 16:54:00 PST SSBoYXZlIHVzZWQgc3ludGhldGljIG9pbCBpbiBteSBGcm9udGllciBzaW5jZSBpdCB3YXMgbmV3IGFuZCBpbnRlbmQgdG8gY29udGludWUsIGJ1dCBqdXN0IGdvdCBzb21ldGhpbmcgZnJvbSBteSBsb2NhbCBkZWFsZXIgc2F5aW5nIHRoZXkgd2lsbCBjaGFuZ2UgdGhlIG9pbCAmIGZpbHRlciBmb3IgJDIwLiBPYnZpb3VzbHksIHRoaXMgaXMgbm90IGdvaW5nIHRvIGJlIHN5bnRoZXRpYy4gSSBoYXZlIG5ldmVyIG9uY2UgaW4gbXkgbGlmZSBwYWlkIHNvbWVib2R5IHRvIGNoYW5nZSB0aGUgb2lsIGluIGFueSABMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 16:54:00 -0800 (PST) From: David Booker To: spridget Subject: [Spridgets] Question about oil - No LBC content Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I have used synthetic oil in my Frontier since it was new and intend to continue, but just got something from my local dealer saying they will change the oil & filter for $20. Obviously, this is not going to be synthetic. I have never once in my life paid somebody to change the oil in any of my vehicles...but it's real cold out there and I don't have a garage at the moment. So I am ever so slightly tempted. So, I have heard that you are not supposed to go back and forth between synthetic and non-synthetic oil. Is this true? I can't think of a reason it would be, but I'm no chemical engineer. (tho I do play one on TV) ;-) Thoughts? - David ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 10 18:59:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F0C64069D for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:59:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p04mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.236.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C675740513 for ; Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:59:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (unknown [108.247.153.33]) by nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MI10064A99GZ360@nk11p04mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for Spridgets@autox.team.net; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 01:53:41 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-02-10_07:2013-02-08,2013-02-10,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1302100340 References: <1360544040.62576.YahooMailNeo@web141404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Bob Kitterer Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:53:41 -0800 To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Question about oil - No LBC content Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Unless something has changed in the last couple of years there is no problem switching back and forth. It is brake fluid that you can not switch. Also if you have the oil I'll bet they will put it in for you. I do that all the time with the RV, which is way to big for me to handle. Bob and Dolores 60 Sprite (Mk IV in disguise ) 66 Sprite (still in boxes) On Feb 10, 2013, at 4:54 PM, David Booker wrote: > I have used synthetic oil in my Frontier since it was new and intend to > continue, but just got something from my local dealer saying they will change > the oil & filter for $20. Obviously, this is not going to be synthetic. I have > never once in my life paid somebody to change the oil in any of my > vehicles...but it's real cold out there and I don't have a garage at the > moment. So I am ever so slightly tempted. > > So, I have heard that you are not > supposed to go back and forth between synthetic and non-synthetic oil. Is this > true? I can't think of a reason it would be, but I'm no chemical engineer. > (tho I do play one on TV) ;-) > > Thoughts? > > - David > ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 11 07:01:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 859424069D for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:01:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc4-s8.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc4-s8.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.210]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4474051B for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 07:01:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY171-W49 ([65.54.190.201]) by bay0-omc4-s8.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 11 Feb 2013 05:55:18 -0800 From: brian S To: spridgets list Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 08:55:17 -0500 References: <74d0.552eb63d.3e48ca78@aol.com>, <1360511367.27328.YahooMailNeo@web141403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> FILETIME=[6CD3D3A0:01CE085F] Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fw: Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net 50 Shades of Grey?????? ;-) I WAS going to ask you to borrow you Unfair Advantage book, but.... Amazon has the paperback version for $21.14, new. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! > > I read lots, most of the time I'm splitting my time between two books at > once. I also listen to books on CD during my daily commute. I have one > fiction going right now that I'm still not entirely sure I like - but it is > building up to something and was recommended by very attractive friend, so > I'll definitely finish it. > > Seriously - > as drivers of sports cars, this book should be on every one of our > bookshelves. (and no, you can't borrow mine) > > David Booker ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 11 10:41:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D2640414 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:41:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9A5DA403E0 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:40:39 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.152] by nm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2013 17:34:50 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.211] by tm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2013 17:34:50 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1020.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Feb 2013 17:34:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 72839 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Feb 2013 17:34:50 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360604090; bh=miuMeumpeBTya87HEdhm8jgB4ZXWoauqGpdGs3j4dRw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kx9iH6pk8/kGHJm/AHLcrduAGsEme7av6w0OpQsdURk6keCPHPcAmRAdyJY0x+vSi+8u7FXE0yJwKTFI4vm6WEzxSYDp7Y9H2rnmRNMG9SzmYxqgsAxcePznBTQjc2vyntgBR+IkRIgd1QfxMElADsy54I+FO0jkfsHznq6mKiQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LVP5l9/SLtNYoK9oHSroMOiiXYpePx146W+OObZInkEwdvIlqyRslnOlOdMsPsMREa6rjJykZPFukPcuGKT/CblvoR0CL9z+AbdT8a7MUgkEbANOHB5+Ey5TBm7bwZ3ypp1WPX6dtsOxdzQCdasKjSMQ7DopeIARxiuxGNP38ks=; cglQTUvzGjbJgI_cV8mz4Wh9SrPqJnLqsxq_tLcD5eoLKyYEeJBKuAiNZq6x S8ELZswLOYp6zvUKfWr59.HVTssmyKXel5T9xWsFBK3Lb1U5Lnjl_56MK0kb 2Ia8zuSNM8fDWbbamAy5C9tGVvKYlbXwL.ZJqY2TYZwC9X9vHKuTzxuTcWiC 6o1KvDo6bViFtTMI95byi1x4FULHqfVBtqZKo0n2VSLv3piB0h_kppoUhE6c 1t3eNudnmdBa4Xzb1zmO7OAnz5gDTWQu79aLQMpVom53342qMP_ZT0yVp5dj moVcuQD90NQW_9n_EVqrMr47Acs4l35ChQZicKGai4dOcP6ErpE3UXh3pd6d 1kW5rb2nwCbKeT4h.32_x0WZ0h1qW49aob8hTEFLgGbtcOZlww6B08E.pG4X CTUZ5NSoUQBRFAhVLdpvjhnPAh8wPmig2CxkKpiwDed8NSme3YC1ef4w3iF_ JqXJ9.WOY1JdBXnt3KjXRAY0- Received: from [172.129.63.127] by web165003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:34:50 PST CgpvayBpIGd1ZXNzIGknbSBvbGQgZmFzaGlvbmVkP8KgwqAgaSB3ZW50wqAgdG8gdGhlIGxvY2FsIGhhcmR3YXJlIHN0b3JlIGFuZCBib3VnaHQgd2hhdCB0aGVuIHdhcyB0ZXJtZWQgInNvZnQgcml2ZXRzIiBhbmQgaGFuZCBidWNrZWQgdGhlbSB3aGVuIGkgaGFkIG15IGJ1Z2V5ZSBzZWF0IHRyYWNrcyByZXBsYXRlZC7CoMKgIG5vIGJpZyBkZWFsIGp1c3kgc29sZCBieSBlaXRoZXIgdGhlIHBpZWNlIG9yIGJ5IHRoZSBwb3VuZC7CoCBhbmQgeWVzIGEgYm9sdCAob3Igc2NyZXcpIHdhcyBub3QgYW4gb3B0aW8BMAEBAQE- References: <1360360728.16146.YahooMailClassic@web181105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <133B14BED3EA4F8CB3B27CD38FE0E301@leosHP> <51169FC5.4000204@brant.net> Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:34:50 -0800 (PST) From: charles christ To: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Seats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net ok i guess i'm old fashioned? i went to the local hardware store and bought what then was termed "soft rivets" and hand bucked them when i had my bugeye seat tracks replated. no big deal jusy sold by either the piece or by the pound. and yes a bolt (or screw) was not an option due to interference problems. chuck been there , broke it , fixed it , and broke it again ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 11 10:56:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DAB440421 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:56:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 313DC403F8 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 10:56:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.74]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 76C301C0001C2; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:50:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dod003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dod003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.161.9]) by mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 38851E000082; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:50:21 -0500 (EST) From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:50:21 -0500 (EST) To: ridleymj@brant.net, spridgets@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360605021; bh=vcyUtzuWzPvR9kD7yw1wMueofIh8qjuKlDSWqem2VvQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=L0NsojOCZwJ61mFY2PXjphBAEHqt8uO4g3ahiJcb7WrG2Zqi+W//K1G8B0akfv5F8 lrcsZecs8bGa5vfj7aKoE37RvUyxv/KXXc+NyFel2Mge5K6aK+J6ltkhPUPj43mQjB GPweesaFIQaFn+aF1jCgSoLFnFH5EmO3vUkoOuVI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a51192f5d2cd1 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 10 Books you should read regardless of the weather Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Obviously a concours owner rather than a modify it owner! In a message dated 10/02/2013 21:02:51 GMT Standard Time, ridleymj@brant.net writes: Outside of number one, there is no particular order of importance. Yes, you can substitue several of the tomes for likewse but remember that these were chosen because of their insight (or lies in the case of Touch Wood) and similar books on the subject will not give your the flavour. 1. Tuning the A Series Engine - David Vizard - you should own it! 2. Original Sprite and Midget - Terry Horler 3. The Stainless Steel Carrot - Sylvia Wilkinson 4. The Leyland Papers - Graham Turner 5. Sprites and Midgets - Anders Ditlev Clausager 6. The Art and Technicalities of Grand Prix driving - Nicolas Andres Lauda 7. TVR Success Against the Odds - Peter Filby 8. The Sprites and Midgets - Eric Dymock 9. Lucky All My Life - Jeff Crew And now 10. POMEs - Touch Wood - Duncan Hamilton Yanks - The Mudge Pond Express - Sam Posey Cannucks - Both, as lets face it we have to be able to talk to these people Honourable Mentions: All but my Life - Ken Purdy MG - Wilson McComb (mandatory if you also own a MGB) Brirish Racing Green - Anthony Prichard and of couse Anything and Everything written by or about Denis S Jenkinson ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 11 12:23:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2744B403E4 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:23:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D898403E4 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:23:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E14A1025 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:19:23 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 12:19:23 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15.1 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <1ca5b.67147a2a.3e4a895c@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 10 Books you should read regardless of the weather Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net "By Brooks too Broad for Leaping" by Denise McCluggage. It is basically a collection of her essays from the days of "AutoWeek' being a newspaper, with the checkered helmet logo. mjb. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 11 15:17:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FA8F40540 for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:17:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.55.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E89B403FF for ; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:17:18 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 32423 invoked by uid 0); 11 Feb 2013 22:11:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 11 Feb 2013 22:11:25 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=BaGGOu3czdknNX/6pZHK73siGNLTSsVJWLnLUzdghLQ=; b=IyeSUl4RYK9IbCZMp4fr7xbp2LL0+RMALDvsTxKYkzfI7K7hc3j0JbQCy+LjOSgM24B4WOBC0axC8V6W7bUtTC13HxVGCStDhPnQWKknXBY8gmiinzkWlP+F/t5jv53E; Received: from [99.31.115.162] (port=65216 helo=[172.28.10.48]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U51av-0007Vm-3s for spridgets@autox.team.net; Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:11:25 -0700 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 16:11:23 -0600 From: "shop@justbrits.com" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <1ca5b.67147a2a.3e4a895c@aol.com> <5119443B.4050102@bradakis.com> {sentby:smtp auth 99.31.115.162 authed with shop@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 10 Books you should read regardless of the weather Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net *be it found in a Hospital and/or Extended Care Facility and/or (again) * **in a Hospital and/or Extended Care Facility and/or, etc. SHOULD be # 1 ESPECIALLY on THIS List and I AM "ASHAMED" and I MEAN ASHAMED of EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU ! ! !* Answer = http://tinyurl.com/af99del Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh. Ed * ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 12 15:16:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273DE4053F for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:16:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D75A64042C for ; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:12:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.76]) by qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zSf51k0061ei1Bg5Da6n1J; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:06:47 +0000 Received: from sz0111.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id za6n1k00V2xV5no3ka6nv7; Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:06:47 +0000 Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:06:47 +0000 (UTC) From: ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net To: EasternOshitGroup (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) s=q20121106; t=1360706807; bh=usneZJ6vAIW7NZ6o4snNQ+kxMspqsbRcGuvfWTaPPDE=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=TSXRkFJWQh7D0OAmJqif2ODXvqCRccs11Y9b4rwLurIuSLOYEgwj9FKrRKVlQ4Qj0 6aO52cPHRbZ5DC2aciwVSkRYHGA8SKPZ6qs5uWTOsqi1ItghpRi7Y5T3xCvDlVUv4L zCiHcb3tIKc9PC72+KkzHbq3eeiJ20Mk+4EzrGYZ4TfbtWNqr0l6IH+2DQ/YotUEup GsSC2mUpu5q9S68wV6uk4ZM9HZjJJW0z4jetxoyGsHxyrWOTpUK0stLq4xJEjgswu1 vrEr/XPPb4nH3I8+aqCd0u0YLqEfTUQ+OgpQ7wst+0unJcHGTLGIinOg5Fe4nT5Pnn P1lKdRwUodKHw== Cc: spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] I saw oil?!! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net So I started my 74 up this evening for a planned MG meeting and happened to look under the hood while she was running and it looked like I had oil coming out of the hose that goes into the seperator onto the top of the separator.B I have never seen that before. It never overflowed or seeped down the back.B I first tightened the clamp at the seperator but that didint do anything.B I loosened it up pulled the hose off and all looked well so I put it back on and went for a short drive.B Don't see it anymore.B Should I be concerned about driving it like this for 45 min at 80mph on the highway each direction?B Never saw this before. Ryan ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 13 09:10:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93AE540E5D for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:10:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mailbag.wi.net (mailbag.wi.net [209.225.111.206]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1276D40551 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:05:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from [108.100.167.44] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by mailbag.wi.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1U5ekE-0002Pu-5L for spridgets@autox.team.net; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:59:38 -0600 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:59:36 -0600 From: dwoerpel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <1360439748.48116.YahooMailNeo@web162603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1360455925.33659.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net ROTFLMAO!! This has happened to me several times and you are dead on with his Michener/Melville-esque "attention to detail". What ever happened to, "It was a dark and stormy night...."? Is Clancy writing his own stuff again or is he franchised out? He needs some LBC's incorporated into the plot. I can visualize the words: In his vain attempt to catch the green eyed, 31 year old, 6'8", blond killer, Jack Ryan desperately downshifts his Bugeye Sprite with the twin turbo 948cc, 210 bhp motor protesting at 8000 rpms from 2nd gear to 1st, forgetting the smooth case transmission, # 22493, is without synchromesh on its 3.627:1 first gear....... and you may continue the description of the consequences of that action in your minds eye. Boy this takes up a lot of bandwidth! Don't you wish everyone wrote this way Mark? We now return you to your regularly schedule event. DW On 2/9/2013 6:25 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > 851 pp? Sometimes, Clancy could spare me some details. Why does his stuff > have to be like: > > "The sniper cradled his Remington MSR chambered in > .338 > Lapua Magnum, He loaded the 14.93 mm diameter and 93.5 mm long cartridge > manufactured in Lapua, Finland which is located next to the Lapua River in the > province of Western Finland and is part of the Southern Ostrobothnia region. > The town has a population of 14,612 (31 December 2012) and covers an area of > 750.77 square kilometres (289.87 sq mi) of which 13.67 km2 (5.28 sq mi) is > water. The population density is 19.82 inhabitants per square kilometre > (51.3 /sq mi)" > > You get the idea. OTOH, maybe I'm just mad at him for the day > I was flying Boston to Phoenix and grabbed a Clancy book at the airport > bookstore for the flight. About 20 pages in, I realized I had already read > it. It was a very long flight. > > > Rick > > > "Madman in a death machine" > Follow > My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo > ________________________________ > From: James Gruber > To: Spridgets Digest > Sent: Saturday, February 9, > 2013 2:55 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm > > Hey the > new Tom Clancy, Threat Vector, is indeed a page turner. 851 to be > precise. > The guy continues to stay on top of his game and stuff on cyber > warfare seems > really close to reality. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 13 09:26:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823CA40E57 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:26:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from email.mtu.edu (mx1.mtu.edu [141.219.73.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A99C40420 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:23:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from TIM2.mtu.edu (adsl-75-21-160-115.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net [75.21.160.115]) by email.mtu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 21C209C64A; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:18:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:17:57 -0500 To: dwoerpel ,spridgets@autox.team.net From: Tim Collins References: <1360439748.48116.YahooMailNeo@web162603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1360455925.33659.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <511BB868.2050400@wi.net> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, You should submit your prose to http://www.bulwer-lytton.com/. Of course we hold near and dear the 2005 winner of this contest with the prose. . . As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Stromberg carburetors in his vintage Triumph Spitfire, highly functional yet pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in chapter seven of the shop manual. The winner of this year's 23rd annual challenge, by Dan McKay, a 43-year-old quantitative analyst with Microsoft Great Plains, in Fargo, North Dakota, certainly shows such a paucity of aestheticism, though no lack of imagination: At 10:59 AM 2/13/2013, dwoerpel wrote: >ROTFLMAO!! This has happened to me several times and you are dead >on with his Michener/Melville-esque "attention to detail". >What ever happened to, "It was a dark and stormy night...."? Is >Clancy writing his own stuff again or is he franchised out? >He needs some LBC's incorporated into the plot. I can visualize the words: > >In his vain attempt to catch the green eyed, 31 year old, 6'8", >blond killer, Jack Ryan desperately downshifts his Bugeye Sprite >with the twin turbo 948cc, 210 bhp motor protesting at 8000 rpms >from 2nd gear to 1st, forgetting the smooth case transmission, # >22493, is without synchromesh on its 3.627:1 first gear....... and >you may continue the description of the consequences of that action >in your minds eye. > >Boy this takes up a lot of bandwidth! Don't you wish everyone wrote >this way Mark? > >We now return you to your regularly schedule event. > >DW > > > >On 2/9/2013 6:25 PM, HealeyRick wrote: >>851 pp? Sometimes, Clancy could spare me some details. Why does his stuff >>have to be like: >> >>"The sniper cradled his Remington MSR chambered in >>.338 >>Lapua Magnum, He loaded the 14.93 mm diameter and 93.5 mm long cartridge >>manufactured in Lapua, Finland which is located next to the Lapua >>River in the >>province of Western Finland and is part of the Southern Ostrobothnia region. >>The town has a population of 14,612 (31 December 2012) and covers an area of >>750.77 square kilometres (289.87 sq mi) of which 13.67 km2 (5.28 sq mi) is >>water. The population density is 19.82 inhabitants per square kilometre >>(51.3 /sq mi)" >> >>You get the idea. OTOH, maybe I'm just mad at him for the day >>I was flying Boston to Phoenix and grabbed a Clancy book at the airport >>bookstore for the flight. About 20 pages in, I realized I had already read >>it. It was a very long flight. >> >> >>Rick >> >> >>"Madman in a death machine" >>Follow >>My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo >>________________________________ >> From: James Gruber >>To: Spridgets Digest >>Sent: Saturday, February 9, >>2013 2:55 PM >>Subject: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm >> >>Hey the >>new Tom Clancy, Threat Vector, is indeed a page turner. 851 to be >>precise. >>The guy continues to stay on top of his game and stuff on cyber >>warfare seems >>really close to reality. >------------------------ > >spridgets@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/thcollin@mtu.edu Tim Collins ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 13 09:56:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3873640E69 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:56:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB2FC4040C for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:50:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3F2311C0000AF; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:44:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dod003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dod003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.161.9]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1720EE000088; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:44:30 -0500 (EST) From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:44:26 -0500 (EST) To: dwoerpel@wi.net, spridgets@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360773870; bh=7sZEr4ggU3VY1S61b6RHOa+vOiO5WSvL6t2Pr/Hy+dw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OTsaE5+8rJ8ZPCMIgLmLLUzQplfQs/b1l6CjGgmpSNESxh8g2l1uqhXSWHuDE6P+9 VW3LpYXhabtzvdRCKw7K7+PFXtfgQp/QJKIWChi05PPRuLebtSp6gmGLZ7w0fgg6PZ /PnShuEOPRH7QV/6VnCjRfHYvqeVGz95pE+RT0OA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc511bc2ee2e19 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Great stuff - time to write an e-book and get it on Kindle. Or maybe the listers could write one of those stories where each person writes the next bit. In his vain attempt to catch the green eyed, 31 year old, 6'8", blond killer, Jack Ryan desperately downshifts his Bugeye Sprite with the twin turbo 948cc, 210 bhp motor protesting at 8000 rpms from 2nd gear to 1st, forgetting the smooth case transmission, # 22493, is without synchromesh on its 3.627:1 first gear. Still, having upgraded the car's backaxle to a 3.9 LSD from the 4.22 open diff, the car lurched forward and he snatched 2nd. It wasn't quite the snatch he sometimes imagined but on this occasion it did the job and as the speed piled on he snatched 3rd, grateful for the upgrade to the Quickshift lever before they were NLA. In a message dated 13/02/2013 16:04:11 GMT Standard Time, dwoerpel@wi.net writes: In his vain attempt to catch the green eyed, 31 year old, 6'8", blond killer, Jack Ryan desperately downshifts his Bugeye Sprite with the twin turbo 948cc, 210 bhp motor protesting at 8000 rpms from 2nd gear to 1st, forgetting the smooth case transmission, # 22493, is without synchromesh on its 3.627:1 first gear....... and you may continue the description of the consequences of that action in your minds eye. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 13 09:56:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC5E840E45 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:56:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB854040C for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:53:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm26.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2013 16:47:18 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.226] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2013 16:47:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1035.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Feb 2013 16:47:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 81582 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Feb 2013 16:40:38 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360773638; bh=kt/aqHb59dXYcw9aSgLoobG4llfBxKstJnSBYtXe5Y8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cT+tWwDbGxQXhFiHlfzuczC6vXGsb/pO0ifDjdZa2/sdzArenWzsPOMAkbzkN59c8W6Z6t9Kdc+efmoXRpV5VsksE2oKx2Iz6u7rWoVjh1b+yDzz8SuhuyvQL3ZGBCVD2KNkps9mgmks/CAQLQD33ZEWRZNEU4AM5Nm2bs6O2xg= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EEXT58sx/gKylqmVaaSCtQzK7zg92aijyRi/XKVmPajv1JT+8pSdmLX+I6Nm+WvftoZsQD08CXQ/Eyf/t73COybePY/57ATVwbc7uAzCVd0x1ayCbDO6KcZUSlzEEF4tQP9ei6/1RKhwydC154/WbQApmWW0y6zYUrwGcEwpyJk=; Zp.vt1rmQLEPhUtnWciFlnnFozISLA.y3JMObTQbyfy.kaBh3p3dodmuy6tw PvmYhpIAMfulUjvm4pR9acgEm.pz816QwyvkYUXgvHs_2dTR1lq_.syPxBSG .O8GcWigP3orfpDbZRX5Nzp2wOBuyiRknj.sDYPeAhz0xXv3OIAH8u__LV0h MtyiVhLaFKTql0axXgQ_VhrSj6SpJf5Y7sJnjBGc_OdZ25k2SFsmpvfxtLuy 3KjFkSjDs7fDbuAk4TE.ckt7lbGYthuMi1QPkCC1f3ypAsZo7ptqVYHmbGJb KQmpy21KKKnFBlsn8lMGrsL_2tI1j8ePcQNr9SRbsSIcOAf_ocW6t2WmOEZU UomEhFnYwQ8zdAgwjxrwgX_fjneWcvXV09Mwe5C2HPfPykw6Y2cMAzrCDUNY kwKs415VK9qVVJc2XsndG4z4PcUzUs2bbZ4L5S3NYwIYWZ3PfWsZFSF8E7I6 mK0IRe8_ItpX9YDzOl8h6gA-- Received: from [172.129.3.35] by web165002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 08:40:38 PST Y29udHJvbGxlZCBzZWVwYWdlLsKgIHdoYXQgeW91IHNhdyB3YXMgYSAidWZvIiBhbmQganVzdCBrZWVwIGxvb2tpbmcgdW5kZXIgaG9vZCBmcm9tIHRpbWUgdG8gdGltZS4KcmVtZW1iZXIgdGhlc2UgY2FycyBoYXZlIGEgc2Vuc2Ugb2YgaHVtb3IuLi4uLgoKY2h1Y2sKCsKgCgpTbyBJIHN0YXJ0ZWQgbXkgNzQgdXAgdGhpcyBldmVuaW5nIGZvciBhIHBsYW5uZWQgTUcgbWVldGluZyBhbmQgaGFwcGVuZWQgdG8KbG9vayB1bmRlciB0aGUgaG9vZCB3aGlsZSBzaGUgd2FzIHJ1bm5pbmcgYW5kIGl0IGxvb2tlZCABMAEBAQE- References: <1281771216.1156302.1360706807459.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 08:40:38 -0800 (PST) From: charles christ To: spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] I saw oil?!! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net controlled seepage. what you saw was a "ufo" and just keep looking under hood from time to time. remember these cars have a sense of humor..... chuck So I started my 74 up this evening for a planned MG meeting and happened to look under the hood while she was running and it looked like I had oil coming out of the hose that goes into the seperator onto the top of the separator.B I have never seen that before. It never overflowed or seeped down the back.B I first tightened the clamp at the seperator but that didint do anything.B I loosened it up pulled the hose off and all looked well so I put it back on and went for a short drive.B Don't see it anymore.B Should I be concerned about driving it like this for 45 min at 80mph on the highway each direction?B Never saw this before. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 13 10:11:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D60C040E46 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:11:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mailbag.wi.net (mailbag.wi.net [209.225.111.206]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FDF740420 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:08:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from [108.100.167.44] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by mailbag.wi.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1U5fjW-0002zP-86 for spridgets@autox.team.net; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:02:59 -0600 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:02:56 -0600 From: dwoerpel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 CC: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <5d007.4f098dd2.3e4d1cea@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fabulous! I think we may be on to something! Don't forget the BLUE SILICONE hoses allowing the coolant to circulate almost unimpeded. Tim, great site! The gals from Appleton and Fond du Lac Wisconsin are pretty good and only a couple of hours away from me..........it's the long winters. Time to go play with the S.U.s DW On 2/13/2013 10:44 AM, WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com wrote: > Great stuff - time to write an e-book and get it on Kindle. Or maybe > the listers could write one of those stories where each person writes > the next bit. > In his vain attempt to catch the green eyed, 31 year old, 6'8", blond > killer, Jack Ryan desperately downshifts his Bugeye Sprite with the twin > turbo 948cc, 210 bhp motor protesting at 8000 rpms from 2nd gear to 1st, > forgetting the smooth case transmission, # 22493, is without synchromesh > on its 3.627:1 first gear. > Still, having upgraded the car's backaxle to a 3.9 LSD from the 4.22 > open diff, the car lurched forward and he snatched 2nd. It wasn't > quite the snatch he sometimes imagined but on this occasion it did the > job and as the speed piled on he snatched 3rd, grateful for the > upgrade to the Quickshift lever before they were NLA. > In a message dated 13/02/2013 16:04:11 GMT Standard Time, > dwoerpel@wi.net writes: > > In his vain attempt to catch the green eyed, 31 year old, 6'8", blond > killer, Jack Ryan desperately downshifts his Bugeye Sprite with > the twin > turbo 948cc, 210 bhp motor protesting at 8000 rpms from 2nd gear > to 1st, > forgetting the smooth case transmission, # 22493, is without > synchromesh > on its 3.627:1 first gear....... and you may continue the > description of > the consequences of that action in your minds eye. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 13 10:12:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F082A40EB7 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:12:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mailbag.wi.net (mailbag.wi.net [209.225.111.206]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F4D40420 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:12:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from [108.100.167.44] (helo=[192.168.1.102]) by mailbag.wi.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1U5fmj-00031S-Qh for spridgets@autox.team.net; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:06:19 -0600 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:06:16 -0600 From: dwoerpel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 CC: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <5d467.99e5906.3e4d1ef4@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Whoa! Attributes aside, what a neat installation. Got a link or stats for the engine? DW On 2/13/2013 10:53 AM, WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com wrote: > And here is a picture for you but not the rest of the list of the > Triumph 'Sabrina' engine. > In a message dated 13/02/2013 16:19:59 GMT Standard Time, > thcollin@mtu.edu writes: > > Dave, > You should submit your prose to http://www.bulwer-lytton.com/. > > Of course we hold near and dear the 2005 winner of this contest with > the prose. . . > > As he stared at her ample bosom, he daydreamed of the dual Stromberg > carburetors in his vintage Triumph Spitfire, highly functional yet > pleasingly formed, perched prominently on top of the intake manifold, > aching for experienced hands, the small knurled caps of the oil > dampeners begging to be inspected and adjusted as described in > chapter seven of the shop manual. > > The winner of this year's 23rd annual challenge, by Dan McKay, a > 43-year-old quantitative analyst with Microsoft Great Plains, in > Fargo, North Dakota, certainly shows such a paucity of aestheticism, > though no lack of imagination: ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 13 11:02:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A050540E63 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:02:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 528DB40400 for ; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:01:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 54C293800007A; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:55:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dod003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dod003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.161.9]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 24E0EE000090; Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:55:49 -0500 (EST) From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:55:49 -0500 (EST) To: dwoerpel@wi.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1360778149; bh=x/btZcgk4KKsNFE5p4pd6G7jOhAj/fkC2Ps+sWt9QkQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bJ4qapGzib+MmVCJkJVRQdby35cB62egHikozjdKav+sl6xuL5IURHpVbBcbrpwU/ 4xMf/gMP2EEgHhsPvFb6okB+hFp30NTu8uIOOJGLCBFx39hSYN08nMo1j9sp5nJo8H /iAuHYFJhnJL/nqCbZKr/o5HS0R6XNlpepRmS/RU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb511bd3a528bb Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Goods Books for a Winter's Storm Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net It was a special development engine (from Memory) that Triumph built for competition (details in a Triumph book I read from the library). The SUs are special twin units, also featured in the book so I was very pleased to see them in 'the metal' on this car at a car show a couple of years ago. Sabrina's worth a google! In a message dated 13/02/2013 17:06:24 GMT Standard Time, dwoerpel@wi.net writes: Whoa! Attributes aside, what a neat installation. Got a link or stats for the engine? DW ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 08:30:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9261F40EBD for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:30:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f43.google.com (mail-qa0-f43.google.com [209.85.216.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580E84065B for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:30:36 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id dx4so2680543qab.16 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 07:24:33 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=snUMDw1unOQ1lOw7+FwY3gKa8kbyC2xn3k/tewmmqzM=; b=0+kCTRZRBp70Jzx6L0OfjMm+m7H+LeJ2wtdCoc5xF/lB3RYCVmF5o/mUbm3XMWQZM+ gv6HLQsbRYEM8J21foD3BDIXWMbFBGzXaNuteh6neGXgsBIsiBAyQcUtI+zYE2D3bGu4 jhviRN/ICMAczaEpRjRFSHpKbk6F0XaFd5EsCpP2NITapwfk58yl9Pvdz+8ZcagqrTsD h+A23mIr6/Iy/TbTPEohTeyq5iq0ODjAXfjnJC/0XRBFeEQXvrUzU5rf5MpoyZGusGX/ W6nFdiv5eJM1SdwbkhUve1U1iVb6mqGZYqFXAlML/lbXlqvAriW1oBbqLbAkBCV2tuGG 0QDA== nj16mr11829644qeb.13.1360855473442; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 07:24:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.0.47 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 07:24:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:24:33 -0500 From: John Farley To: Mailing List Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Fuses Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Somebody just told me that he ran across information that UK (Lucas) and USA (BUSS) fuses are *not* interchangeable.This is because they use different rating methods. The UK, Lucas fuses are rated for the surge (peak) current that will cause the fuse to blow NOW. The USA, BUSS fuses are rated for the current they carry continuously. This info. went on to say that you should never install BUSS AGC 35 amp fuses to replace Lucas 35 amp fuses in vintage Britcars because the wiring will melt before the fuse blows. It said that the UK (Lucas) 35 amp fuses are actually rated at 17 amps "continuous" / 35 amps "surge". If you substitute a USA (BUSS) fuse, one that is rated 17 amps, is roughly equivalent. You should also only use BUSS AGC fuses that have a 32V rating (not 250V). Has anybody else heard about this? It it accurate? Thanks, John ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 08:42:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DBB4065B for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:42:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com (mx2.netinteraction.com [174.143.201.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECCD04041E for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:38:34 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTP id CDA4AF44179; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 07:32:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id R+cW+8Z3W8-L; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 07:32:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com (75-128-248-175.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com [75.128.248.175]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTPA id 3F7EFF440BA; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 07:32:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 09:32:28 -0600 To: John Farley , Mailing List Spridgets From: Peter Caldwell mail.com> References: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuses Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net It's Twue! It's Twue! if you had an old original Lucas fuse, the paper inside said "17A continuous" Peter C At 09:24 AM 2/14/2013, John Farley wrote: >Somebody just told me that he ran across information that UK (Lucas) and >USA (BUSS) fuses are *not* interchangeable.This is because they use >different rating methods. The UK, Lucas fuses are rated for the surge >(peak) current that will cause the fuse to blow NOW. The USA, BUSS fuses >are rated for the current they carry continuously. This info. went on to >say that you should never install BUSS AGC 35 amp fuses to replace Lucas 35 >amp fuses in vintage Britcars because the wiring will melt before the fuse >blows. > >It said that the UK (Lucas) 35 amp fuses are actually rated at 17 amps >"continuous" / 35 amps "surge". If you substitute a USA (BUSS) fuse, one >that is rated 17 amps, is roughly equivalent. You should also only use >BUSS AGC fuses that have a 32V rating (not 250V). > >Has anybody else heard about this? It it accurate? > >Thanks, John >------------------------ > >spridgets@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter@nosimport.com > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6100 - Release Date: 02/12/13 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 08:46:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9141642278 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:46:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6024065B for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:46:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0EL01l0050EPchoA3FgTkj; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:40:27 +0000 Received: from [10.1.10.187] ([75.151.210.78]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0FgR1l00d1i2L2K8MFgSRE; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:40:26 +0000 From: Lester Ewing Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 09:40:25 -0600 References: <20130214153230.CDA4AF44179@mx2.netinteraction.com> To: Peter Caldwell s=q20121106; t=1360856427; bh=001Iw9TLaXVgK8V/HW5OZkQU19qfHvvUOC40kj4VLK0=; h=Received:Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=LcAEb6mhyXDqzdHuq87unu8hLW6nB20y4mzKu+9/lDnPs0U8JXoC4VNJZWYcTGdHS eJOPunImzUOsJnwP4Ft4Tzd+6EbbAyABDA1T0APvi/pUTNHJ4wD7LWUFPyDM4/AeBR WZEZzbSP0Cj9o4w0h4Ce7sCm/TmyzOdehnGF5VSSQhP+P3Weu+ku/mbnTJ00ixs5h3 McxUk7/P7UXUjANz/cjM8hbqMGWyvzbwYc0CkLjPAGQ9wROm6EHH4C3+4a0gI+0w0e Se9Fif1qLRSGI0pbEVU9yEArxHXQVd1NBif0XbGHm7tN8dVEhoFMNtaD8SiaW6FpPv 6P1M/JQtwR85Q== Cc: Mailing List Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuses Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Special answer for Valentines Day? ;-0 Lester On Feb 14, 2013, at 9:32 28AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > It's Twue! It's Twue! > > if you had an old original Lucas fuse, the paper inside said "17A continuous" > > Peter C > > At 09:24 AM 2/14/2013, John Farley wrote: >> Somebody just told me that he ran across information that UK (Lucas) and >> USA (BUSS) fuses are *not* interchangeable.This is because they use >> different rating methods. The UK, Lucas fuses are rated for the surge >> (peak) current that will cause the fuse to blow NOW. The USA, BUSS fuses >> are rated for the current they carry continuously. This info. went on to >> say that you should never install BUSS AGC 35 amp fuses to replace Lucas 35 >> amp fuses in vintage Britcars because the wiring will melt before the fuse >> blows. >> >> It said that the UK (Lucas) 35 amp fuses are actually rated at 17 amps >> "continuous" / 35 amps "surge". If you substitute a USA (BUSS) fuse, one >> that is rated 17 amps, is roughly equivalent. You should also only use >> BUSS AGC fuses that have a 32V rating (not 250V). >> >> Has anybody else heard about this? It it accurate? >> >> Thanks, John >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter@nosimport.com >> >> >> ----- >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6100 - Release Date: 02/12/13 > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy@comcast.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 08:57:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE4542268 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:57:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm0.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm2-vm0.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.108.92]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C3340E9C for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:50:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from [212.82.108.231] by nm2.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2013 15:44:39 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.166] by tm4.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2013 15:44:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp107.bt.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2013 15:44:39 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360856679; bh=ycD0a4kx76Rj1lFggQH/RXIWfqdqgPF4XbIp96Hyx3M=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-Antivirus; b=kZeSCMIOl9F8OWNz+MYb4+zd4LroHtAcf5oqmdxT6MA/lhVIksLhRGjU2OFfH6CVu6ZEDCIIEeOxtuUjmrD87qnHkdyw6QRzv+uprcTNZmYEqEd5kg7btGVCc+UMYSns5dVnuZGY4ie1yioQZhKhqOjJTQAYqgGP5ihYlVJ/7+c= udpuK2ZdtH2VB9ur9TAXm3p5ZnZWD7LkqMbfYNsR8N0PsOABdR9IpnZLG8bk cbbjRImJupAd6lkecjMaE1e7wlpysKABGE1cjQPv90hvSBXOGGoBbYdYwgDp B2wugWZg2EwhB0aP8rylooM8ViA0fp7OtEhLKd52qZYQTWn.9TuFL6efnezD 7FRcV9YVsLUvlet7Ub9s7M_.o2KR.nx1ToweVPetjKwgTU685x85wLXazu1K PSBkPWO07CBpFiSG.57HO2hw7Ys2bS_OJLQ_TlEMWddZW5n5Rbs.g6EB6wpL pp6q8srbjkWDVqjRSxCeqrEleAC_1vrcx2hyCkqtjpeH7R0vuMeavctUhWcl 5rKBADDzg86Ejr5fQuUBSqY4msel8dLH9mYYhZ8S6CN4xmiDghExLMinJpem ob68bt6hkuugCas2VjxDnDuCG.tp_PmsiYWrEko1apbqNh8oTEjRVT3T2tRZ YyabXWErkBqFcW5naMH5cuak1CS7qGHjY26ANyg-- Received: from user8634b3d69b (grday@86.155.109.69 with login) by smtp107.bt.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Feb 2013 15:44:39 +0000 UTC From: "GUY DAY" To: "John Farley" , "Mailing List Spridgets" References: Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 15:45:16 -0000 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuses Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net John, Yes and yes. Peter has mentioned the genuine Lucas fuses have a piece of paper in them, this is often seen browned or burnt in a line where the fuse wire has been touching it. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Farley" To: "Mailing List Spridgets" Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:24 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Fuses > Somebody just told me that he ran across information that UK (Lucas) and > USA (BUSS) fuses are *not* interchangeable.This is because they use > different rating methods. The UK, Lucas fuses are rated for the surge > (peak) current that will cause the fuse to blow NOW. The USA, BUSS fuses > are rated for the current they carry continuously. This info. went on to > say that you should never install BUSS AGC 35 amp fuses to replace Lucas > 35 > amp fuses in vintage Britcars because the wiring will melt before the fuse > blows. > > It said that the UK (Lucas) 35 amp fuses are actually rated at 17 amps > "continuous" / 35 amps "surge". If you substitute a USA (BUSS) fuse, one > that is rated 17 amps, is roughly equivalent. You should also only use > BUSS AGC fuses that have a 32V rating (not 250V). > > Has anybody else heard about this? It it accurate? > > Thanks, John > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday@btinternet.com > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6101 - Release Date: 02/13/13 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 09:49:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 215F342450 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 09:49:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f171.google.com (mail-we0-f171.google.com [74.125.82.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4947422E1 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 09:49:36 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-we0-f171.google.com with SMTP id u54so2177308wey.16 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:43:32 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=opKMwhuu7mPu7mKA7YC8qPV345U5jU+1SM2CQtfqENw=; b=NxfPJT8hcE/tsC7cXAFjMW2PBWx7gzayonX6Vwgk0+MoAEBA5LVQ+GOW3WJlGeCPRC gVRL+/3d9yKn/hNH1Gy22phVMWbDvVGkb8V4WMBHFoFIlqJtvPpAkc7RoFJFY3+qXmgW ylaXtU/eA9+LBOVoBRI3/DiLgPJGQAn3stqyJA4YRbebwOLScXVRng0b5tOzU2Dqo3SM Ds7jpgGrlHBPeyOTEuXWFPDTb5xXN2xllleoMYu+VSonwY/qVGjVLrYIvJM+5O3c6DqP LtgNubDdiCmooYGo+UdfKZrpHrfuyaVcjG8+4CChyoISjrvdt03CMyxrZ2h6a8nw1dgz CKKw== Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:43:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.135.20 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 08:43:31 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:43:31 -0600 From: derf To: John Farley Cc: Mailing List Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuses Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net A #10 stranded wire will handle about 30 Amps. I don't remember too many #10 or larger wires in the Spridget wiring harness, (starter and alternator, maybe?) The fuse should match the load and wiring capacity. http://www.cooperindustries.com/content/dam/public/bussmann/Electrical/Resources/Data%20Sheets/Bus_Ele_DS_8005_Fuseology.pdf ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 12:02:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A2042266 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:02:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f173.google.com (mail-ia0-f173.google.com [209.85.210.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94BBB4225A for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:59:21 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ia0-f173.google.com with SMTP id h37so2581112iak.18 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:53:16 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance:x-mailer :x-mimeole; bh=ruPKoV8rJj3YAHrPa4CneGggSNHTAXXIeWBku/xaE1k=; b=VJt7PH83xGGKhEUbTnVgfsE5vi1mYPsb5b4K3y29sj2Cj/29WexwAgsv7rwir+BwMj FZMUNoN5BuvzWYtsxtC0nnoBIpFP1VRXLm1mkiQziOIVvLc3niNSA5Bqsz5iMh+oqCx/ S9sOiuLRlhGWi6PY+YdYP5Cb9GZVLLIhythAU1VpvuPQjDwjVN6avroEMwTe7X6RgCJS BnpjAheP+LgpubV4B+VnmfHzibBkK1/ohOQIhmZxAhQ3oPlcpAhSonJPe0ETAboaFYGP g9JxxuEdhyhMgO0yi3rx6Ttz7tG4pqx+U3Gc+s7/FUi7ZUn6oiUONoUij2XYlxqqSRtb zSzw== f19mr35933621icn.24.1360867996586; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:53:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from Snoopy (adsl-75-57-161-122.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net. [75.57.161.122]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ww6sm667460igb.2.2013.02.14.10.53.14 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:53:15 -0800 (PST) From: "JeffG-Mail" To: Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:53:09 -0600 Subject: [Spridgets] Drum Brakes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net List, I know I have seen this someplace, but cannot find it now. What is the max that can be turned out of the Bugeye Drums before they are too large in diameter?? Thanks in advance. Jeff Kelly ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 12:22:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7888E4225F for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:22:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm34-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm34-vm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0B040E1D for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:22:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm34.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2013 19:15:58 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.250] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2013 19:15:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1059.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2013 19:15:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 25108 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Feb 2013 19:15:58 -0000 s=s1024; t=1360869358; bh=PgcJphxCLxVPs7WdXk+nj4KzrHgkbzgnMCph3maWiCY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UXYHMr0VvJGwdfUxS+Uqij3nllPh3HOybt2pLAxAt0qegTmSIxlpodVdm0m37Ns0g43g/iFtLboeTs0zwMfG1ANsc+We2cv6ZD/5AFUu393E6JjvmreUjMNB7o2pjDf8Hosl5FHY6npHNHN4PmKwEmw3T7PY17QenVUGmMh2gOM= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LpFndzGID4xP4TTKTceIk3VQuiGCDhfZHvVkyBQqzyEC85w2EAtsXTPS0eBRJZf3gOss+VkEO8QHW0NF9OrXPOnWbCMOBG1bp4q+7CMr6dDL/dNShZ6HS4E79RmUGxfavW6AUw5+Y6s7/PoUOjDMyaLkhnoHbXvZEFdqoKWI1t8=; 8L9P32mTKIBO5KLlqh6_ecoIQE0D2AnjXg3rFSpXojdts2GXqwSJAMQXRnl_ RGx6EwaCmlg018FzCicy6Zxy9Kz759au8oAlHKpO7hNEvNbwusYGP4Alz59T W1EW6yclUWURmf9DZQXV5Fy5Vmioh5yVLyh53GXI1swV5dgukZblvl.IRGyt tm535eHbE4iE8m.CdkhrRY_g7m9hQTQd6HG2Ew0gbqtKJl59KYVASRN5RFF6 0DIkuF9dYdedi3VfnwBHSapsSNExv8Wf1aWRcGDn8AWgDr7SxKWLjAjys8lN pYbNIm2owV4mELJH1NMzDsa_Jofa5k59Uwrdx.Shfs9vfKT8Vda8xYQNstQr f6AUdl4ZWBPm8Hul4OIsXXWS8B6S7dtPueyzGcg5BSI._qcKrWvKiI._IFzW 5KhDuNm8W4STfIt75FA1i389qfE2O1031xV2iedtESPSaSwMNkr7Sj3vR486 yO8DAqOFGQqRxHnRME6Vvbz7tERyfcfHsv0Qtb6Sqs3Kdqq1X3BlAEzGIphL tncqrm4fboM3_qjBoZYyxdXooYby3seN7aN.1gxDrZjzwjTPJ2R7gELgth9p PKKuPrvxNo1kbeWa2z82tnmw_dJKNGvkqWmfJ6KiJrdBfdxe.0fUEEuutZ0d lD9uTlLynxs.CZJ6skwGDJ6C418fwb3cd Received: from [24.136.88.12] by web142703.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:15:58 PST QWxsIHRydWUgLSBNeSBmdXNlcyBldmVuIHNhecKgMzZBTVAgaW4gdGhlIG1ldGFsIHJpbS4NClRoZSBwYXBlciBpbiBzaWRlIHdpdGggdGhlIGZpbGFtZW50wqBzYXlzIDE3IGFtcC4NCkkgbm90aWNlZCBtb3NzcyBmdXNlcyBkbyBub3QgaGF2ZSB0aGUgcGFwZXIgb25seSAzNWFtcC4NClRoZXkgY2xhaW0gdGhlcmUgY29ycmVjdC4gDQrCoA0KVmlnaWwuIA0KDQotLS0gT24gVGh1LCAyLzE0LzEzLCBKb2huIEZhcmxleSA8am1mYXJsZXk2MUBnbWFpbC5jb20.IHdyb3RlOg0KDQoNCkZyb206IEpvaG4gRmFybGUBMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:15:58 -0800 (PST) From: To: John Farley , spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuses Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net All true - My fuses even say 36AMP in the metal rim. The paper in side with the filament says 17 amp. I noticed mosss fuses do not have the paper only 35amp. They claim there correct. Vigil. --- On Thu, 2/14/13, John Farley wrote: From: John Farley Subject: [Spridgets] Fuses To: "Mailing List Spridgets" Date: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 7:24 AM Somebody just told me that he ran across information that UK (Lucas) and USA (BUSS) fuses are *not* interchangeable.This is because they use different rating methods. The UK, Lucas fuses are rated for the surge (peak) current that will cause the fuse to blow NOW. The USA, BUSS fuses are rated for the current they carry continuously. This info. went on to say that you should never install BUSS AGC 35 amp fuses to replace Lucas 35 amp fuses in vintage Britcars because the wiring will melt before the fuse blows. It said that the UK (Lucas) 35 amp fuses are actually rated at 17 amps "continuous" / 35 amps "surge". If you substitute a USA (BUSS) fuse, one that is rated 17 amps, is roughly equivalent. You should also only use BUSS AGC fuses that have a 32V rating (not 250V). Has anybody else heard about this? It it accurate? Thanks, John ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/uniquelittlecars@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 14 12:33:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7233B42479 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:33:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout14.eigbox.net (bosmailout14.eigbox.net [66.96.185.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FEA740EBC for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 12:32:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from bosmailscan10.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.10]) by bosmailout14.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1U64Rz-0002gs-C5 for spridgets@autox.team.net; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:26:31 -0500 Received: from bosimpout04.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.4]) by bosmailscan10.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1U64Rz-0008HW-8D for spridgets@autox.team.net; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:26:31 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp06.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.6]) by bosimpout04.eigbox.net with NO UCE id 0KSX1l00307rX7u01KSXfH; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:26:31 -0500 a=wjbnU54ZnSrVWcBrMEwcOw==:17 a=rVNCtfT2p6QA:10 a=soqLAFAfTUEA:10 a=HL8deA2zAAAA:8 a=kwaMNWdeb8cA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=4KODxLjQppNaTKweOs4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=RtZGZSx8nBIA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=F158L9mU0XpwqnGr:21 a=8nUlir6Nqlw7hsQ9:21 a=jEAa4KH_MQaOZk5QBKsA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Day9RuTCuQppxnnf:21 a=fIc3/5IyPUehxkj7BpkQ7Q==:117 Received: from adsl-69-107-89-2.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net ([69.107.89.2] helo=[192.168.0.101]) by bosauthsmtp06.eigbox.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim) id 1U64Ry-0005S0-5P for spridgets@autox.team.net; Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:26:30 -0500 From: Gerard Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 11:26:21 -0800 References: To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Fuses Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Info on my web site: British vs American Fuses http://www.gerardsgarage.com/Garage/Tech/Fuses.htm Gerrad On Feb 14, 2013, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request@autox.team.net wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:24:33 -0500 > From: John Farley > To: Mailing List Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] Fuses > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Somebody just told me that he ran across information that UK (Lucas) and > USA (BUSS) fuses are *not* interchangeable.This is because they use > different rating methods. The UK, Lucas fuses are rated for the surge > (peak) current that will cause the fuse to blow NOW. The USA, BUSS fuses > are rated for the current they carry continuously. This info. went on to > say that you should never install BUSS AGC 35 amp fuses to replace Lucas 35 > amp fuses in vintage Britcars because the wiring will melt before the fuse > blows. > > It said that the UK (Lucas) 35 amp fuses are actually rated at 17 amps > "continuous" / 35 amps "surge". If you substitute a USA (BUSS) fuse, one > that is rated 17 amps, is roughly equivalent. You should also only use > BUSS AGC fuses that have a 32V rating (not 250V). > > Has anybody else heard about this? It it accurate? > > Thanks, John ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 15 15:29:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA0D9403DD for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:29:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f176.google.com (mail-we0-f176.google.com [74.125.82.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C28403A6 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:29:14 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-we0-f176.google.com with SMTP id s43so3177671wey.21 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:23:04 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=0mqWdxSpml2JwA1FkdbU35pDvM5Sl/6KhpHX0iwJbo4=; b=HC2CllFqlM8Kn+yNfus3ul7+Mqtj8hUtrzqhh34jo6/hLxQhnNHtQpDUtswU7/cwSE p2U4hG6ccyALegoFczbt6jEF5UNmqe6zO3Fw2/mWEdH/W68DJ3MtO96njiCeKQZH8HfN GeEjd6DFYNRCvRDAcFjvv8Rd9IskjHamNuW+6CgbSTVXUHzT/7Kz5uwpkv0d4aIR9bjh Rya85NsQQvGQE7mxNZzZS0e6/VaoF6QNxEJjosV3yp0mhjv7nFOucjYjYjn0vKjcwCyP qGdkfmlTC1nvLYSfGYSxE7gNGby/iWiCXO00YDCV6og/olEVcAzFW5/rEyVZ1I8MmEXb LbWQ== l9mr6833689wix.20.1360966984276; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:23:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.135.20 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:23:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 16:23:04 -0600 From: derf To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Toyota Powered MGB Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net There's an MGB at the PullAPart in Baton Rouge with a Toyota powertrain in it. The car is in rough shape but if anyone is interested in the conversion, it is there to see and dissect. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 15 17:38:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1978403C7 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:38:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from txofep01.suddenlink.net (txofep01.suddenlink.net [208.180.40.71]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A4A403A6 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:38:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from leosHP ([72.47.140.225]) by txofep01.suddenlink.net (InterMail vM.8.04.01.08 201-2343-100-153-20121108) with ESMTP id <20130216003203.CXMP4336.txofep01.suddenlink.net@leosHP> for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:32:03 -0600 From: <60bugeye@cebridge.net> To: "Spridgets" References: Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:31:55 -0600 cv=x+HIeRt96z3OxH+mTNMT90tk2CJqdcFCb2V94NFekwU= c=1 sm=0 a=zNVno3TXJzQA:10 a=X6EWi9_stYMA:10 a=pVMl2t813bUA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=d-NZkT0aAAAA:8 a=-DmtK1hem2BJ3wKVZHkA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Subject: [Spridgets] what every spridget needs to be able to do Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Check this out http://biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=39089 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 15 20:37:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41EA2403D5 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 20:37:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f181.google.com (mail-ie0-f181.google.com [209.85.223.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDF8403A6 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 20:29:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 17so5496613iea.40 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:23:40 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:content-type; bh=R3yRdNXtAWWS8IAw+YTO83Ni/bMtm1R9fL7GSaiSjag=; b=028aw7430hz6HP7oQDLjV/nGdYODfyXJDtZm2vw3DbJLUiD2IrtyD1gHEBOOQD5u6n Fj7Nvq0kv7Dga9WWtzvvrkZNdrg4h8Azlgy7fbMF9RdEpQJ7Np8pQmp2GXl3OPC0XNzD qaBhVU75yIY0ogg0Ckr/WzN2rVDutqGY7DV2yG/q1O6Nf3IHj2ShGELd+UgaUfbuzPF2 bzYVqFZbn6T+RP9R1p7P3Ji2RFy+IKAEYi8ZleiIj2nt5XKgtZhLqvVPTUUILmd8mQ7l 5Wtj7Ej5XSqq5V/1TUU/0DGwQOaG6oDizk5zC6yz5pE8rG80mhEM26DPZzWVIWsLICHq sdOQ== pr4mr3974545igc.40.1360985020664; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:23:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.39.199 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 19:23:40 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:23:40 -0600 From: Jeff Foster To: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what every spridget needs to be able to do Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I'd never trust my car to go park itself. It may not be as picky about it's parking spot as I am! And for those who may not like/trust links to unknown sites the video is actually on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgN8MOrss40 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 15 20:38:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD72E40442 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 20:38:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983E4403A6 for ; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 20:29:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130216032341.TGOR10143.mta41.charter.net@imp11>; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:23:41 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.114] ([75.134.176.126]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id 0rPZ1l00P2k0G5X05rPajj; Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:23:41 -0500 a=4qVORgQvpCJpuAOtuMCMUQ==:17 a=VsTAf3f1xE4A:10 a=7Vtkk4Wg9cEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=4ycV2vTZAAAA:8 a=9Y6UV6M_q5kA:10 a=Mf1v_7_OAAAA:8 a=d-NZkT0aAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=iecHBDM8UHg_lYvGsIwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=VgdHWzi9AekA:10 a=OpnbjhRAqwMA:10 a=4qVORgQvpCJpuAOtuMCMUQ==:117 References: From: Rick Fisk Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:23:34 -0500 To: "<60bugeye@cebridge.net>" <60bugeye@cebridge.net> Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] what every spridget needs to be able to do Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Yikes! No chance of anything going wrong there! Sent from my keyboard On Feb 15, 2013, at 7:31 PM, <60bugeye@cebridge.net> wrote: > Check this out http://biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=39089 ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 12:51:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C48040447 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 12:51:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout17.eigbox.net (unknown [66.96.187.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C48D403E4 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 12:41:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from bosmailscan10.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.10]) by bosmailout17.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1U6nX5-0007GM-Rq for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:34:47 -0500 Received: from bosimpout04.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.4]) by bosmailscan10.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1U6nX5-0007Dw-PL for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:34:47 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp03.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.3]) by bosimpout04.eigbox.net with NO UCE id 17an1l00503yW76017anZ9; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:34:47 -0500 a=r+TRful/UytpAe4iHGpdvQ==:17 a=rVNCtfT2p6QA:10 a=soqLAFAfTUEA:10 a=HL8deA2zAAAA:8 a=nyk3ogS1w2gA:10 a=rrfcNrKlAAAA:8 a=-5ir1pMXAAAA:8 a=hGY3-wKSwJTSD99UXlsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=-OhvNUpz794A:10 a=wUkcuc-Ptn137TOSDSQA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=8DZvvt_BAHExIICN:21 a=6uKCkKhFq2wXOH2GoQX8aA==:117 Received: from adsl-69-107-84-179.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net ([69.107.84.179] helo=[192.168.0.101]) by bosauthsmtp03.eigbox.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim) id 1U6nX3-0004bL-3k for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:34:45 -0500 From: Gerard Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:34:41 -0800 To: "spridgets@autox.team.net list" Subject: [Spridgets] Exceptional Sprite FS Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is the '68 I spent about 10 years restoring. It belongs to a friend now and he's thinning his dozen or so car collection. Selling because it's getting to hard for him to get in and out of these smaller cars. http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?42,2290507,2290809#msg-2290809 http://www.vuvox.com/collage_express/collage.swf?collageID=0134319034 Gerard ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 13:52:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57E240511 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:52:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth13.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth13.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D26BB403F8 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 13:48:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from [71.236.143.70] (helo=spider) by smtpauth13.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1U6oaL-00017e-In for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:42:13 -0500 From: To: Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 12:42:12 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac4MhhkWv99L8VhORSeymagzeYAAEg== Subject: [Spridgets] Micro Car Auction - Day 1 wrap Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.autoweek.com/article/20130216/CARNEWS/130219847 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 15:41:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5D3040510 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:41:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp003.mac.com (nk11p00mm-asmtp003.mac.com [17.158.161.2]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2AB740448 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 15:41:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (unknown [108.247.153.33]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp003.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MIC00KR242JFJ20@nk11p00mm-asmtp003.mac.com> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 22:35:08 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-02-16_04:2013-02-15,2013-02-16,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1302160249 From: Bob Kitterer Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:35:07 -0800 To: Spridgets References: Subject: [Spridgets] Hydraulic fluid and asphalt - no LBC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net List Help needed - Last Thursday the local trash truck had a hydraulic line burst dumping gallons of fluid on the asphalt street. We are trying to determine what problems, if any, we should be concerned about. This is a private street an the upkeep and repairs comes out of our pockets. The street is in excellent condition. The spill occurred about 8:00 a.m. and with in a couple of hours a hazmat certified crew was out putting something on the spill. The next afternoon they swept that material up and started steam cleaning the asphalt. However it started to rain and between their fluid recovery and the addition of the rain water their recovery tank filled up so they had to stop with only a 1/3 of the job done. They do not work on weekends so it was Monday before they finished steam cleaning the asphalt. We are getting different answers from different people as to the short and long term impact of the hydraulic fluid and the asphalt. So I would appreciate any information that will helps us deal with this situation. TIA Bob and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 16:07:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7249F4053C for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:07:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDCF40406 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:01:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130216225512.ENFK10143.mta41.charter.net@imp09> for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:55:12 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.114] ([75.134.176.126]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id 1AvC1l00B2k0G5X05AvC4v; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:55:12 -0500 a=4qVORgQvpCJpuAOtuMCMUQ==:17 a=vUEwy0nmS1cA:10 a=7Vtkk4Wg9cEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=4ycV2vTZAAAA:8 a=85GV7Cttet0A:10 a=HHGDD-5mAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=9hsq9l8FOP4DA4tX4dkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=i1zE5R4R5dEA:10 a=OpnbjhRAqwMA:10 a=4qVORgQvpCJpuAOtuMCMUQ==:117 References: <944E4D24-5DF9-4EE8-81F2-53D5470D441A@me.com> From: Rick Fisk Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:55:12 -0500 To: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hydraulic fluid and asphalt - no LBC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Hydraulic fluid will soften the tar. I doubt if steam cleaning will get it all. I would reseal the area at a minimum. Sent from my keyboard On Feb 16, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Bob Kitterer wrote: > List > > Help needed - Last Thursday the local trash truck had a hydraulic line burst > dumping gallons of fluid on the asphalt street. We are trying to determine > what problems, if any, we should be concerned about. This is a private street > an the upkeep and repairs comes out of our pockets. The street is in > excellent condition. > > The spill occurred about 8:00 a.m. and with in a couple of hours a hazmat > certified crew was out putting something on the spill. The next afternoon > they swept that material up and started steam cleaning the asphalt. However > it started to rain and between their fluid recovery and the addition of the > rain water their recovery tank filled up so they had to stop with only a 1/3 > of the job done. They do not work on weekends so it was Monday before they > finished steam cleaning the asphalt. > > We are getting different answers from different people as to the short and > long term impact of the hydraulic fluid and the asphalt. So I would > appreciate any information that will helps us deal with this situation. > > TIA > > > Bob and Dolores > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 16:26:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7FBA4044E for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:26:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm2.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm2.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.108.233]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D2B40440 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:26:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from [212.82.108.230] by nm2.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2013 23:20:27 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.179] by tm3.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2013 23:20:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp120.bt.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Feb 2013 23:20:27 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361056827; bh=ipXSyPCtH5vBBRN1oCGMrGixGZlJhQ2JWhrqfIK0zLg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-Antivirus; b=Isv1E+uipB9LrQtjqLUJuzAVs8J94mdFLPK/388+KVe/NykUvrU1JKyZxiJPSf80RMGaYz9NqxMjEnLPuBoLY4BR/LqJ8GNVpnFdUhmJ4fKf2Z7uqfaoeqRNTDfPsOpA57Re/u7v5zqMF1YBJCnNgMBwOm20o0pd1YnWCmnnL+k= oPJlM4svxueUQvZ2B6nGzKAEnwPrwB9zNPdQuWijjNUWb7aLxpdpBeetCWnC aqKhK9r.I5h4fC6i01ndKJZA1bG_PMkH_ftJfhrNwckyrTdfZdIZDsbbRKZe fvGftXdzUOzeoEe9B.0dB7I5Kk0jCUtShsJacoiNH.a7iibX834z1shOyi2u kspF92B0wlNFlXj0Yqo7usTiiM.tb1Rqo0.i7LGuCmsg_IfLPAPBr2xZd.Qe mQ6QnIMv4fZyj_89TpUmb.U_c2z8L_.uxAce0grR6Uetei391OpXDnZVaKWi B14joCLuWPlxMgR9b3xSNKbC1KUFmkPMiAx1HQMhnt18dNsJ8nQzdBifuoGp Jez04DSZOq6coKROIm8K8vsQJ5sLOwcO5TROceJo26djcQxr5LW_HQaDIQa1 AyziAR55VMrcMwobuiAdPtnJ4MokvTPpQgl0LytsWHURc734_9qsml8RzsoZ EblXXiB8UTJ_9X0moLiCaOdcMhFS7j1l_wnI9cw-- Received: from user8634b3d69b (grday@86.155.109.69 with login) by smtp120.bt.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Feb 2013 23:20:27 +0000 UTC From: "GUY DAY" To: "Bob Kitterer" , "Spridgets" References: <944E4D24-5DF9-4EE8-81F2-53D5470D441A@me.com> Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 23:20:27 -0000 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hydraulic fluid and asphalt - no LBC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I understand the type of hydraulic fluid and asphalt can make a difference but generally it will dissolve the 'binder' or compound used to hold the stone chips in the road. There are many types and grades of asphalt and some are more resistant than others. Just like brake fluid on paintwork IMHO the only way to get rid of the problem is remove the paint (asphalt) and start from fresh. If this is not done I believe you will have problems year after year after year. It will always degrade and cause problems. Cure? Dig out the affected area plus around 1 ft on the non drainage sides and 3 feet on the drainage side and when I say 'dig out' this includes the base layers and then you can re-lay. Look up asphalt MANUFACTURERs, not the guys who lay it, and refer to them. See if they have a guy who can come out and check on the grade of asphalt on your road and seek his advice. Try to get some of the fluid which spilt and mix a chunk of your road into it and see if it does dissolve. It could be a type that doesn't and I could have worried you without reason! Around 20 years ago over here in the UK I reported on an incident where this same thing happened and a car slid into a child on the surface of the asphalt - which had turned to gravel around 12 months later. They sued the local authority (responsible for road maintenance) who in turn sued the haulage company whose vehicle it was that caused the problem. Their agreed solution was to dig out the asphalt over an area around 75 sq yd and concrete it. A rather expensive leak of hydraulic fluid. Last year I had builders in and the JCB they used leaked hydraulic fluid onto the asphalt drive at the side of my house, now the snows have gone I have seen that is corroding away. The leak was just a 'couple' of drips after they used it and they placed a sheet of plywood down overnight to absorb them but.... It will be fun later this year when I speak with them about it. They already know I'm not best pleased as the area is stained and the gravel is becoming loose. I would NOT trust the clean-up squad or trash truck people to provide honest answers, it is in their interest to provide placebo answers and hope that 5 years on your will have forgotten what the problem was or it will be too late to sue. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Kitterer" To: "Spridgets" Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2013 10:35 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Hydraulic fluid and asphalt - no LBC > List > > Help needed - Last Thursday the local trash truck had a hydraulic line > burst > dumping gallons of fluid on the asphalt street. We are trying to > determine > what problems, if any, we should be concerned about. This is a private > street > an the upkeep and repairs comes out of our pockets. The street is in > excellent condition. > > The spill occurred about 8:00 a.m. and with in a couple of hours a hazmat > certified crew was out putting something on the spill. The next afternoon > they swept that material up and started steam cleaning the asphalt. > However > it started to rain and between their fluid recovery and the addition of > the > rain water their recovery tank filled up so they had to stop with only a > 1/3 > of the job done. They do not work on weekends so it was Monday before > they > finished steam cleaning the asphalt. > > We are getting different answers from different people as to the short and > long term impact of the hydraulic fluid and the asphalt. So I would > appreciate any information that will helps us deal with this situation. > > TIA > > > Bob and Dolores > > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) > 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday@btinternet.com > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6105 - Release Date: 02/15/13 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 17:54:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4727840047 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:54:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail.usimperio.com (mail.usimperio.com [209.150.108.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E104240406 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:53:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from Dave_Laptop.littlebitcountry.com (oh-69-69-34-130.sta.embarqhsd.net [69.69.34.130]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.usimperio.com (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id r1H0lPkH018217 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 19:47:27 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 19:47:21 -0500 To: spridgets@autox.team.net From: Dave Yealy References: <944E4D24-5DF9-4EE8-81F2-53D5470D441A@me.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hydraulic fluid and asphalt - no LBC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Do like they do with Nascar tracks. Spread powdered TIDE and brush in with a broom let is sit for a short while and hose it off. The TIDE lifts the "dirt" out of the track. My 2 cents Dave At 05:35 PM 2/16/2013, you wrote: >List > >Help needed - Last Thursday the local trash truck had a hydraulic line burst >dumping gallons of fluid on the asphalt street. We are trying to determine >what problems, if any, we should be concerned about. This is a private street >an the upkeep and repairs comes out of our pockets. The street is in >excellent condition. > >The spill occurred about 8:00 a.m. and with in a couple of hours a hazmat >certified crew was out putting something on the spill. The next afternoon >they swept that material up and started steam cleaning the asphalt. However >it started to rain and between their fluid recovery and the addition of the >rain water their recovery tank filled up so they had to stop with only a 1/3 >of the job done. They do not work on weekends so it was Monday before they >finished steam cleaning the asphalt. > >We are getting different answers from different people as to the short and >long term impact of the hydraulic fluid and the asphalt. So I would >appreciate any information that will helps us deal with this situation. > >TIA > > >Bob and Dolores > >1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) >1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes >------------------------ > >spridgets@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lbc@littlebitcountry.com > > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6101 - Release Date: 02/13/13 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 17:58:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BAD440453 for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:58:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813304003F for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:58:04 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.126] by nm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2013 00:51:49 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.101] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2013 00:51:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Feb 2013 00:51:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 38763 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Feb 2013 00:51:18 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361062278; bh=O0zFlNu8Cyugm5SQsA7VZqgfPUrfWKdkdyq6Lgot50Q=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tGbPv88c4e6LQpB6wfyQiJruTsoXJ0LEaPKNXDF//DKaM4ixXuH2wjWEueInt6oGPnUUR+/NFLArY/jCMHLE4yCWxDBHar1TJNgYgvMh56UPQ6rtnApjlDj5QahYVlXqIKd45l1spqP2QN5/akBGECrL1X7Ws2WZRhoR4jt0uWQ= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oO+G3XW8nV+TzdajoG6voq3BSs+d7WNXfZHbpeH7jitn3fEbgJGxhrqSx8atWWqR++Ddmvt75yivIybm+lJS7FV0NbavEwRt3iTRy0WmUP6598mkxLqFa7+eRILuwohjtOd/9LT+BUm3fkf/Ejpfrnvv354/gZWoU+vwtJyXFBY=; .U9Zh9f_GZ4f3sbufRJN.c.PR745ygVbkCX_EoREaQfwYQmYPF6ZLjypB4Sn bnriPFlWpkVquJV3R.kEV5ftFUwU2hF1kC7HKyHvRQjD5abl1IoCkDvaaXF6 NXkcv_sxFYwLtLvd1NKMFQtFN0fZrjOpu0rCvLGDa_sP50sVxdu1OF.DQZ10 0lKlWb2XgaMQDZeuiCHTd9bNlT5UwVKv1t.MhMrGpvGx3fv7rb_UEFe7PRRE IOGqxk7HUPhqwenKg2yOFNTstT6vPAIxtMj0p9kjZjjEhwVUXfhqJQHO9a.d kIuD8iscq7JEuGSe_CXlPsOXUTJ0BpVry5SzxeDGPIG1KaJOSfIUh_Warf94 XCJhcRLOQhmreX6yTJpu3XO5oFu7PuUvpmWUt1GZ3qblI1DiN1_Q9lZHUiTO Do6MUh9x0yaGWZQ3._b1VuED9J4D3LycDCo8m3bVxfJ40kAoXlnXBTdnKWvI F0Zax7B5voBcu Received: from [99.101.224.117] by web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:51:18 PST QXMgYSBCcml0aXNoIGNhciBvd25lciBJIGFtIGFzdG9uaXNoZWQgeW91IGhhdmUgbmV2ZXIgaGFkIHRvIGRlYWwgd2l0aCBsZWFrcyBhbmQgc3BpbGxzIHVwIHRvIG5vdy4gO14pDQoNCk1pa2UgTWFjTGVhbg0KNjAgU3ByaXRlDQo1NiBCTjINCg0KLS0tIE9uIFNhdCwgMi8xNi8xMywgQm9iIEtpdHRlcmVyIDxia2l0dGVyZXJAbWUuY29tPiB3cm90ZToNCg0KDQoNCkxpc3QNCg0KSGVscCBuZWVkZWQgLSBMYXN0IFRodXJzZGF5IHRoZSBsb2NhbCB0cmFzaCB0cnVjayBoYWQgYSBoeWRyYXVsaWMgbGluZSBidXIBMAEBAQE- Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:51:18 -0800 (PST) From: Michael MacLean To: Spridgets , Bob Kitterer Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hydraulic fluid and asphalt - no LBC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net As a British car owner I am astonished you have never had to deal with leaks and spills up to now. ;^) Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 --- On Sat, 2/16/13, Bob Kitterer wrote: List Help needed - Last Thursday the local trash truck had a hydraulic line burst dumping gallons of fluid on the asphalt street. We are trying to determine what problems, if any, we should be concerned about. This is a private street an the upkeep and repairs comes out of our pockets. The street is in excellent condition. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 16 17:59:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F99A4051E for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:59:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp006.mac.com (nk11p00mm-asmtp006.mac.com [17.158.161.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8ED4003F for ; Sat, 16 Feb 2013 17:59:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (unknown [108.247.153.33]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp006.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MIC0030XAGQII80@nk11p00mm-asmtp006.mac.com> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 00:53:16 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-02-16_07:2013-02-15,2013-02-16,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1302160293 From: Bob Kitterer Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 16:53:14 -0800 To: Spridgets References: <1361062278.18096.YahooMailClassic@web181104.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hydraulic fluid and asphalt - no LBC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Drip pans, drip pans Bob and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes On Feb 16, 2013, at 4:51 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > As a British car owner I am astonished you have never had to deal with leaks and spills up to now. ;^) > > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > --- On Sat, 2/16/13, Bob Kitterer wrote: > > > > List > > Help needed - Last Thursday the local trash truck had a hydraulic line burst > dumping gallons of fluid on the asphalt street. We are trying to determine > what problems, if any, we should be concerned about. This is a private street > an the upkeep and repairs comes out of our pockets. The street is in > excellent condition. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 17 17:49:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A8240512 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:49:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f44.google.com (mail-da0-f44.google.com [209.85.210.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB0A403F4 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 17:49:15 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-da0-f44.google.com with SMTP id z20so2208806dae.31 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 16:42:55 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=Nlo7J4XKdqweZJhuBjdo8EOxceDCzgslheoVjnYmOlU=; b=vsWRpR4wvF0uJYOpBFSiKkuijJf/UV6qCXDPHyCkvLNTHd/MTMS8tOPYhKFbZByezv EDlTqYX/DBr9zYYgLZGdZiH9XtdyMAedL+ndKkSFleub9G4/of8wPtGoEUxVvtO7BsCh QGjuIyKLulGM2H9VRQRoO2ZEi3zmzsNFRERBl7CDSD/U8F5uJa8swZw4kcQp66DCv0mz BnkxQ0IxkGRPRucjklDlODMdk8ygJGEhj62h4wKUGikfZEbj58DAaLYVIuSzT0dTnmri 88ua7C+74rjXjFmCK3+Ua7VR4bCmp6URFI00imDq67zeNlNsgR9IFhyTeVp+8brOKO6Z bnIQ== gl10mr24762508pbc.148.1361148174948; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 16:42:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.81.201 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 16:42:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 16:42:54 -0800 From: Rick Bastedo To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] No Spridget Content - posting gun stuff on Ebay! Wow! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I found I own a couple rare DE magazines so I want to sell them and add the proceeds to the RWA Midget rebuild fund. So I listed one on Ebay yesterday and then last night found the listing had been cancelled and removed. The person who removed the listing said it was due to a rules violation, the rule is that magazines can accept only 10 rounds or less. These are 10 round mags, as it is clearly stated in the listing title, body and pictures. So I called this morning, explained my point of view and the person on the phone looked at the listing and said they would send in an appeal. However it goes to the person who originally cancelled the listing. I've waited around all day and haven't heard from them, so I just put up a new ad. This time I removed the words "High Capacity" from the title,because apparently that phrase "kills babies". When did this country become a place where you couldn't say "High Capacity Magazine" unless you were talking about the removal of someones rights or about some evil SOB who kills little children, grandmothers and baby seals? Anyway, if you want to play along here it is: (until they remove it again) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190800006371 Rick (HiCap) Bastedo ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 17 20:46:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3428B40525 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 20:46:48 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f46.google.com (mail-pa0-f46.google.com [209.85.220.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BC3B4040D for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 20:46:39 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id kp14so2591680pab.5 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 19:40:19 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=l2UskxxOTlcNvK7b3lbTGuabrDsHH2EIn2nuPnkIgnc=; b=dfD7f6ADG6ryX4Emlu/8cfHcFgf+3emcImWLz6/lXSxKCUyVS69Zd+ocPCH8bwfbOf m5AVUxwX7hRfvegKQxogrod7G1xrQM6RlWM3p4cJKMuiwvFMou8R3YLddoWf+boENcZ/ 1y52rfFJKisW2YLMBq0yU2dGjcA0iFnVHpzkuLe/0qrGQcIzudjPfbiKRaxfD2bdGriz JW+NajIFuhy+8q50RNue2g/13w6qCMGRDNJ6ltqN8jJjihzDWSyiuH1w8eJ41Af39sZV d8eFaOPZ6isiFbutxt8MY09NZMwfOyBQigmNvuaS200KZSEORzuvq1Jwx34fq/VbsUFt rRiw== nt10mr26652747pbc.14.1361158818851; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 19:40:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.81.201 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 19:40:18 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 19:40:18 -0800 From: Rick Bastedo To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No Spridget Content - posting gun stuff on Ebay! Wow! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I think they just have a problem with the words: "High Capacity" as that's a catch phrase for everything evil in their very little world. They cancelled it again, and here is what they wrote to me. (It is hard to believe these people have a brain cell between the lot of them) "Unfortunately, we had to remove your listing because of the following: You stated, "The factory magazine is a high-capacity design that holds 2 rounds more compared to the standard factory magazine. The longer length is what allows it to hold two additional rounds." Because of our concern for the safety of our members and because of the various state and Federal firearms laws, we have decided not to allow the sale of certain firearms parts. We realize that this is a frustrating thing to have your auction ended again. You may relist provided that the magazine truly holds 10 rounds and remove any statements that doubt that. Otherwise, please do not relist. Magazines with a capacity of 10 rounds or less may be listed. However, the capacity must be stated in the item description, or clearly visible within the images used in the listing. If there are contradicting terms (i.e. 10 rounds or less is stated, but the image shows 15) these listings may also be removed. eBay prohibits the sale of magazines that accept more than 10 rounds, typically referred to as "high capacity" magazines. These items may not be sold, regardless of how they are described in the listing." Rick (I must be an evil evil person) Bastedo On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > I found I own a couple rare DE magazines so I want to sell them and add > the proceeds to the RWA Midget rebuild fund. > So I listed one on Ebay yesterday and then last night found the listing > had been cancelled and removed. > The person who removed the listing said it was due to a rules violation, > the rule is that magazines can accept only 10 rounds or less. > These are 10 round mags, as it is clearly stated in the listing title, > body and pictures. > So I called this morning, explained my point of view and the person on the > phone looked at the listing and said they would send in an appeal. > However it goes to the person who originally cancelled the listing. > I've waited around all day and haven't heard from them, so I just put up a > new ad. > This time I removed the words "High Capacity" from the title,because > apparently that phrase "kills babies". > When did this country become a place where you couldn't say "High Capacity > Magazine" unless you were talking about the removal of someones rights or > about some evil SOB who kills little children, grandmothers and baby seals? > Anyway, if you want to play along here it is: (until they remove it again) > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190800006371 > > Rick (HiCap) Bastedo ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 17 21:07:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BED440515 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 21:07:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CBDB4040D for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 21:06:47 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id fb11so2625058pad.28 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 20:00:26 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=/h8c8UCpN9i4VvNZeYaS5neG+BYNfw5pHC7+OIAYXDg=; b=MEsp6kE5ISgsQSSj49OMJ8hA5vxUeUqgRq3HmBFuIEx2t5kDXLEpHh+lA5Z+eLvoN3 LKxk0FpAcMRVdnXwaGzLclC9358MAywzOdaQiomhmJ8MHbv/TmAubYkafw5oAEVPQU5g njpPLRP3+6TELNyE3ppmjIWLIRPWW1nZMBMy+hfzgTSbA4QSsJSMhe0ciEz/vOgTVwPJ lUyki2akifHZNnJtw19eO1lDaIIWzAjo19Ka2d5NEMQcNfUt6vSGzUO5VipTzdzeh0S+ gPnJwueTRQ4hVxZNrWKADMUXU3CH6DqwWlN2i2+UTpdzW/a/+jt/81q7hl61fYZH0wtW nmHg== ke3mr2584752pbc.98.1361160026749; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 20:00:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.81.201 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Feb 2013 20:00:26 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 20:00:26 -0800 From: Rick Bastedo To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No Spridget Content - posting gun stuff on Ebay! Wow! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net My new listing, can I be more clear that it only holds 10 or fewer? http://www.ebay.com/itm/190800086860 On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 4:42 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > I found I own a couple rare DE magazines so I want to sell them and add > the proceeds to the RWA Midget rebuild fund. > So I listed one on Ebay yesterday and then last night found the listing > had been cancelled and removed. > The person who removed the listing said it was due to a rules violation, > the rule is that magazines can accept only 10 rounds or less. > These are 10 round mags, as it is clearly stated in the listing title, > body and pictures. > So I called this morning, explained my point of view and the person on the > phone looked at the listing and said they would send in an appeal. > However it goes to the person who originally cancelled the listing. > I've waited around all day and haven't heard from them, so I just put up a > new ad. > This time I removed the words "High Capacity" from the title,because > apparently that phrase "kills babies". > When did this country become a place where you couldn't say "High Capacity > Magazine" unless you were talking about the removal of someones rights or > about some evil SOB who kills little children, grandmothers and baby seals? > Anyway, if you want to play along here it is: (until they remove it again) > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190800006371 > > Rick (HiCap) Bastedo ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 04:52:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B4F64052D for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 04:52:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm20.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm20.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4A7340323 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 04:49:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.103] by nm20.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2013 11:43:33 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.78] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2013 11:43:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2013 11:43:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 13013 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Feb 2013 11:43:32 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361187812; bh=eRTzOgmTqLMX93gMYiswPhmW1fTICS8PLQakf8QdXN0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iWLswO/keKQLSXKnVsZ1JFzV5bLg/Z3FZbt8JkfllFi8gFCw2clBGQ1EW1PyyF5RZJyQBu6C0NlkMqjgL01IGpGb0MRrVjxD+XB/hmxKl1B92lPos2Oemo18+yAfnlPMmhs1pzCQnQfIG4EgpYldZcTbAZ4/zyJOXp3OKDA4XqI= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fjA0Pa+3YmzjQTMIAxXKgW/HKaADejAxwn9U9F0vSn9ukMK8GUPkRPOvEwRpTeS7Nze+pTMQhziPfzJIM0tylrvoSyKdepL3bfMGheUbxSXtvFNTd3Iykwqg7zYaQm0Hmmnt2eDRi1fExEK2SnCkzjAgY3OQlVh09iTb6FCwaJc=; uRONt2Nv8mEBhUTo1HeOBtaNeD2VfOoFnFygZ8EEuJj9XKULot2ZCGA471lo oJ0UdS4TFqaRVABQ2Pj3OL1KWRaB7YEGn3U0ThbnDapWxlIZzm6sogDML_m7 v3t9Qy8FdZPnWOriMuKZ0K89.BvBY5QgSNO2UMc5CXIJtk_5pEHFiLJrkdtX 2MEuJpQqTfsCg3V_iWoBRRvuTpLvIOqLIzPQFGGQ_Fgvkant902anfuEH6si G1oF31lXNPizj6SPXTPOYiwd8jZNPc2lswLzGlufG3GuTr1HiLn_fP8uGMfZ GzK7OpfseD7z4tDaNAqCE23LGR.W.dd9ggf7ZA5q9.OIojs8m.VHk7xBOZJU lUBEE.znuRfe.x0ngj172wItz2M_HK3cNNcfV6ulDDUUXhwen_rF6o8GcCMy me7U9wODP0OhigXjBHzX60kNhv8Tcj3BNxRPwf9GyV7u.C2Xv5JjKZHhgRAb IlpOYmGEK3k4GBiuOF72glS4v_qgVXh1nbIHtchoYubIWlYXfLUk- Received: from [99.101.224.117] by web181101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 03:43:32 PST UmljaywNCsKgwqDCoCBHbyBiYWNrIHRvIGVCYXkgYW5kIHNlYXJjaCBNMSBDYXJiaW5lIG1hZ2F6aW5lLsKgIEFsbCBvZiB0aGVtIGFyZSBjYWxsZWQgMTAgcm91bmQgbWFnYXppbmVzLCB0aGUgUHJvTWFnIDEwIHJvdW5kZXJzIChhY3R1YWwgMTAgcm91bmQgbWFnKSwgMTUgYW5kIDMwIHJvdW5kIG1hZ3MgYXJlIGNhbGxlZCAxMCByb3VuZGVycy7CoCBBbnlvbmUgdGhhdCBvd25zIGFuIE0xIENhcmJpbmUgY2FuIHRlbGwuwqAgZUJheSBwZW9wbGUgYXJlIG5vdCAiZ3VuIHBlb3BsZSIuwqAgQXMgbG9uZyBhcyABMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 03:43:32 -0800 (PST) From: Michael MacLean To: Spridgets , rbastedo@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] No Spridget Content - posting gun stuff on Ebay! Wow! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Rick, Go back to eBay and search M1 Carbine magazine. All of them are called 10 round magazines, the ProMag 10 rounders (actual 10 round mag), 15 and 30 round mags are called 10 rounders. Anyone that owns an M1 Carbine can tell. eBay people are not "gun people". As long as you say "10 rounds", they will list it. Same thing with other guns too. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 --- On Mon, 2/18/13, Rick Bastedo wrote: My new listing, can I be more clear that it only holds 10 or fewer? http://www.ebay.com/itm/190800086860 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 12:51:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C1C940567 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 12:51:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (unknown [98.139.212.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 80CA04006E for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 12:50:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.144] by nm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2013 19:43:21 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.241] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2013 19:43:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1050.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2013 19:43:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 81733 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Feb 2013 19:43:21 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361216601; bh=JMVtJzyaM06kZCjg6zQet767H6FdKW5N5GwQT2AD2hQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BiT7i/OK61ZzvDOYLAbp1gPKtctZQp9Bl6ePzPP+SzIBP8DpDx52v72uzN7iorCYITif/6D6CA9cm/Tj7huMNHnFTB8BFwcNYy6jx/3X1pUYm+lyL0lk8XRbWrvj0UgESUJKhu31rK7vu6pgPSThH//yXuUMXT3gGxjrHoMQ800= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fxBk63+Rqp9lJ1VGbUBCZtk/PUZN6Z1iLm9m6rpmycB+lbO8gD1lsDe6/VOeOs86Ff446mjMeAghzQb8AhDdDOnTI9by7Ab8VRM4TrCq+2lq/vJZZpgaZCUPD8Huiv4oP8r54Ddn0CreqQRxZzU7h2S/7G3J4I+yVB39cS1cHa0=; 1C4iSunbrnyd3OpscolvBJWjZRi8kqtixQacIVAR0l0G_h.JTelKvdzvBONk rwFEkt3TH7VlyfdEhVZsnjqhI3Vae69vIR46XvnjUu8XbZddPujll1iO.p4x D302CjCdJWezCh_dul.gqJCiBOLF4Qq11Ist7APeSNVYHRptuDXN6bFV1Mdb f64MKjuh_rENlWnYt7nmBpSx1SqNkfHX3dcC5QGEox1sLIaY8p1y0duJpvhs V7n.ws_Eua9jk_Idnpp3d.mg61v..aE5e29VLHI5vUZSiGserDxJ362TkVwl EgXV5Ub0Srl.pss5u4gTfF6UZVY7w2VSXcqlpLAtOSC8bL8eeZUFMdHny0H_ Djb.A29IqOK3FlYzS1_v3W8v0SbAqwmYdSLIng1DjEaEQmV5va8QTsWcgruN GGGzUKFNeMDV93b2saL8SaE4IIqUa4tWquGJWLouWPcd31apbOEY0NHhB Received: from [76.235.35.44] by web162601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 11:43:21 PST SSB3YXMgYWJsZSB0byBjb25maXJtIHRoaXMgbW9ybmluZyB0aGF0IHRoZSBpc3N1ZSB3aXRoIGJyYWtlcyB0aGF0IGNhdXNlZCBtZSB0byBwdWxsIEJ1Z3N5IG9mZiBvZiB0aGUgcm9hZCBpbiBBdWd1c3QgYW5kIG1pc3MgYWxsIG9mIHRoZSByZXN0IG9mIHRoZSB5ZWFyIGZvciBTcHJpZGdldCBGdW4gd2FzIGNhdXNlZCBieSBhIGZhaWxlZCBSRiBCcmFrZSBIb3NlLiBJIGZpbmFsbHkgaGFkIHRpbWUgaW4gbXkgc2NoZWR1bGUgdG8gcGVyZm9ybSBzb21lIE1haW50ZW5hbmNlIG9uIEJ1Z3N5IHRvZGF5IGFuZCABMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 11:43:21 -0800 (PST) From: James Gruber To: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Hoses - Time to change them Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I was able to confirm this morning that the issue with brakes that caused me to pull Bugsy off of the road in August and miss all of the rest of the year for Spridget Fun was caused by a failed RF Brake Hose. I finally had time in my schedule to perform some Maintenance on Bugsy today and replaced all brake hoses and Brake Master. Issue was stepping on brakes Bugsy pulled sharply to the left as if RF Brake was not working properly. A test this PM after I replaced the RF Hose showed me that air would not pass through this hose. Maybe fluid but definitely there was my problem. For all of you new Spridgeteers, trying to bring one back to life, max life on brake hoses is 10 years and Spridget manual says 2 years and 24k miles. These hoses were 12 y.o. Yes I know but hoses had < 10k miles on them. Replace the hoses, it could save your life. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 13:40:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F02540540 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:40:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76CBF40540 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:40:40 -0700 (MST) a=GbEYEGZJGwz9uARXa0cJVQ==:17 a=dNSyHD6hlwgA:10 a=m6raTFfwdYAA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=oWHmMxfDOLoA:10 a=m7SFhZGmAAAA:8 a=HxDp_VcLG8IMFTn6nGsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=tSULGGMj3sMA:10 a=YjpmUS-aJPHWXAADnLsA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Pi37ENq7jltIzrSI:21 a=GbEYEGZJGwz9uARXa0cJVQ==:117 Received: from [76.170.216.248] ([76.170.216.248:50310] helo=Dell320Amwar) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 2F/FC-00734-84092215; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 20:34:16 +0000 From: "Dena & David Vrba" To: Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 12:34:16 -0800 thread-index: Ac4OF0kIbl2IbqmOQaKpee7U4pwbnw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Spridgets] New California Vintage License Plate program Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Good news for California Listers to get period license plates for your car. The CA DMV is orchestrating a preorder program for vintage California license plates. If they get 7500 prepaid applications ($50) by January 1, 2015 they will proceed with the program. This appears to be a good opportunity for classic car owners to get period correct plates for their cars. The link below is to the CA DMV website for ordering plates. http://www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/newsrel/newsrel12/2012_20.htm Not as good as the "real thing original plate" utilizing the YOM feature available in CA but a lot cheaper than the $300 plus I spent to get "period" on my '62 MKll. David Vrba Corona, CA '62 Sprite MKll ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 14:08:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C8740565 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:08:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth14.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth14.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E641840540 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:08:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from [71.236.143.70] (helo=spider) by smtpauth14.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1U7XqL-0001wU-99 for spridgets@autox.team.net; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:01:45 -0500 From: To: Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 13:01:42 -0800 thread-index: Ac4OGybOYrSZGwvgRri4AMH3Q6ROjA== Subject: [Spridgets] $9.1m Bruce Weiner Collection sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.classicdriver.com/uk/magazine/3500.asp?id=16733 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 14:27:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A7240565 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:27:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm0.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm3-vm0.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.108.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7DA40540 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:26:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from [212.82.108.228] by nm3.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2013 21:20:17 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.164] by tm1.bt.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2013 21:20:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp105.bt.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2013 21:20:17 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361222417; bh=+SFoVeGRGsw3Dz4iCK0Bv/rd7LZjyJSP+Mj63kuMgJ0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-Antivirus; b=HZ1zWuRuyoSIoNEHkmhyyOMJWfQcNERd0fy5j9z+XWwd7G1lWWTslw2lG2pXVT5tVhPjKoOhcu5ROdK2DIc+2Tb4vCCQSa+iSy8ajIbNRV5zJMICmRp6sg4kcHTIldkfC9qDF+lfH2ef2TQ2kcRz3NEDwGmSPpNxgfpMwvhQ9EM= XAry0DNkUZO.Igg0CQWQmWg4qAyVpqQKhGe8tdSca8APxOQhSEAqY0xAyJ4W UfFGRhCP6IgyioAAtclbwGTW.2wd_ikRicFrRDC8bABpYW9b6qkGY283C.YS JqGLz3ehz.faGcL5J_nWCFodBIqF4v2oz8oXEX088O2qrRo2aDsX.TtO3Hls BbucXxA26BiiT64aSCpOkiC9ImtIYWxzj.PLPkqB8S7dHRhTJOtX6tdoRqXt ql8SlDBIOFIpvagnRJjfcbGGKAAvj004mGo3PBaU4RWNjcSOZLIyQg85o6oZ YXgDoAqut8_J.gQ9wHiTaxY.QWneSqzVv7.kcF5BqcnRqiZPA9oPrQuDlBcV X3AIdxkxSjMsBNag9rNrJHnTHzE77skuJKvWSk6YqVndHhXId16sxPX3Zs_0 qMlRozVDyYaHcxf_9YFHv6l19PcDz7XhfsKnJ4bdAS9gX0.Mvgq8misq4QsH EY4Lh5dvhfwOPn2DUgm16k6CYC4oewHJZsvg7Lw-- Received: from user8634b3d69b (grday@86.155.109.69 with login) by smtp105.bt.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2013 21:20:16 +0000 UTC From: "GUY DAY" To: "James Gruber" , References: <1361216601.79932.YahooMailNeo@web162601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 21:20:16 -0000 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake Hoses - Time to change them Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Hi all, I would endorse James' message and add a plea that you do not use hose clamps even though there are tools designed and purpose built for the job. The inner lining tube of the hose is squashed flat when the hose is clamped and at the flattened edges of the compressed section it is squashed to the point where it can begin to split and / or delaminate from the outer bracing part of the hose. By definition, for the clamp to work, the hose has to be 'abused' to this degree. This can cause a 'flap' in the pipe and dependant on which way the flap is formed fluid can either be blocked from reaching the slave cylinder or it can hold pressure so the brake is locked on and will not release. You can create the situation where pedal pressure feels to be fine but the brake(s) are not working. Mostly, you will get away with using a hose clamp but that hose has been damaged internally, it cannot be seen from the outside and it is a weak point for the future. Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Gruber" <> To: Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 7:43 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Hoses - Time to change them >I was able to confirm this morning that the issue with brakes that caused >me > to pull Bugsy off of the road in August and miss all of the rest of the > year > for Spridget Fun was caused by a failed RF Brake Hose. I finally had time > in > my schedule to perform some Maintenance on Bugsy today and replaced all > brake > hoses and Brake Master. Issue was stepping on brakes Bugsy pulled sharply > to > the left as if RF Brake was not working properly. A test this PM after > I replaced the RF Hose showed me that air would not pass through this > hose. > Maybe fluid but definitely there was my problem. > > For all of you new > Spridgeteers, trying to bring one back to life, max life on brake hoses is > 10 > years and Spridget manual says 2 years and 24k miles. These hoses were 12 > y.o. > Yes I know but hoses had < 10k miles on them. Replace the hoses, it could > save > your life. > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grday@btinternet.com > ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2639/6110 - Release Date: 02/17/13 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 16:04:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB36740560 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:04:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f175.google.com (mail-ia0-f175.google.com [209.85.210.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D95040551 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:03:13 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ia0-f175.google.com with SMTP id r4so5614998iaj.34 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:56:49 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=tvX+K+bKbH+V8vmVk3DGuN8nRnKQjkW40KqIxkvmJds=; b=iFSxZQwX9nvz2eKXUlR7e28kWiEz+zvRoT3KkQAdYLyAof9N2rrHTWv05n3ed8nKF9 /khhYKlxwXfodxI3pHY7nVBjT6y1c7hzJNfk5b8mRk74DwPmWlBg50lPigmyOg02zUHk MlrrQFBFHA0DDNHVOEGfJfJgC605ESx2YpnNu7tK91R4+fFX2kl36jRjXtiMQEBh3LzG qMit9YFWHRWGYKltO5rDT26Tz9mDPYWrSvRCsJ2tcDMxUwMGxaG5OQCkSk6sL2wQy9SH E7Lf3faggqkVXWvsj9jr8eOUpToblmkN8JUvnCkuO+NOvrRTZJB7DTDuziqcdJuygZOx Kq9Q== j10mr6458007icy.48.1361228209396; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:56:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.97.103 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:56:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:56:49 -0800 From: Kirk Hargreaves To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Sudden Loss of Clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net While entering the freeway Thursday night for a quick run across town . . just as I was entering I lost my clutch. My brake line came away from where it was positioned and held in place (rather poorly . . obviously) and touched the positive pole on the battery . . sort of a plasma cutter reaction which burned enough of a leak in the tubing for sudden loss of signal. I ordered a new line from Moss. In the interim I stopped by the hardware store and bought about three feet of brass tubing. I cut the brake line at the point of the hole and using JB Weld on each end I snugged the slightly larger tubing over both ends. It happened to be a perfect tight fit. I bled the system and It has been holding fine as I wait for the new line to show up in the mail. Another interim shade tree repair that might prove to be "interesting." Kirk ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 16:08:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4FA40571 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:08:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f180.google.com (mail-wi0-f180.google.com [209.85.212.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E317B40551 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:08:34 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f180.google.com with SMTP id hi8so4153140wib.13 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:02:09 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=io60pRATF8L92p/wRgaZ07S70iyEC8wvZc1prKQD4KY=; b=xWsOq/ppODMViz/Lt5ftSuLeU3GALvW3lIjdwmOsGQBlUMSvB73sZFoE/8iCJB9KeB bTFGhTNiBfB222dTDs/ZTBjWo4kt8Wj5hBRtPRM+zUhFarO58muu8UJvYhEl2cpf2m0R AC7xJhAhjFvEO/OzBiZLd5J91GXYJgcqDBCm/AvyJzNlH9zQzNX2xFbDrdO4UbeWV3Yh lVFVTES6FJ+C2B9580LFj+cRXFq6pZ9EmVs1EFUbuieReCl9lpxWm8n8MLVNqUZo2Wio 13eTjKkYgbettg162SZOQDE1DVUzMt5fj9JCm4vEi6UjpKtLiH0z1zOK5Zi+UwWCHpkw Zsmg== s1mr22496450wjw.17.1361228529663; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:02:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.135.20 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:02:09 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 17:02:09 -0600 From: derf To: Kirk Hargreaves Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Sudden Loss of Clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sounds unsafe. Epoxy and hydraulic pressure lines should not interact in such ways. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 16:21:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5CF40572 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:21:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm25-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.184]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D08C40551 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:20:48 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.96] by nm25.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2013 23:14:23 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.213] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2013 23:14:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2013 23:14:23 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361229263; bh=Y6NN88Iv163p5pz9AVpeGGOV30mlRBy4HXmSRdpV2cU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=i+Hmc7BduUs7B506DlHb+Rm2mhBKx13YkkHR+HxYau3t/pxtuATun3sImHyP5270EG/Ehfe3NXUfeGRLmN8Teuar2WY+yRXYCRQA1UFWF07fuNsBNGOglJkwiTKFd/bgzcoPp7LtcycZW9QGiDVA9nH58LwoiwrevhzOeCyK30g= yKnBMPZaj.hI8zTKCR7Js7ynmL14C7W.JzhoX.7Zoj7LflXmbeGrfe7BDxs0 cg0Hqzx83ROJI6z4CwaCrrW1L002zJlbfliHvWOwoghnTl.T9srCnnf6mQlj pTXdEySfwPE66eQLNeMzmGN4PGaeiRrvnNmCjoFSTdLt7g1hBYvP1fsFN9C8 3hzQQkgFqdTZ99TQkh60L.b5N.npOD2N_VjpUF3az2sfOtDmp5.IyGT14VXR wr_I.DTXeMCuweNdGulZrp8phGVDy4mx9HoqnisGF7uLR1vKyMTjGXuS7c6x 1FnSRMBnWLbxBsHuR.iwTrFR78VODr36zGvCsDJyePH9coPKeWYlkbCxv1Uq ifHDdd_UftrlrAO4Rh9XiyOlEz1ljycBcAuFb4ntuRRsM9v79rhT_MRY9QqI zAVCRUj05z3qQdYc9nhcs9WJ9jFAd Received: from [192.168.0.2] (mgmaven@72.152.139.155 with plain) by smtp102.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Feb 2013 23:14:23 +0000 UTC Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 18:14:03 -0500 From: Bob Spruck User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <1361216601.79932.YahooMailNeo@web162601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <8E0B61CAB6EC45BCA510065524DA7630@user8634b3d69b> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake Hoses - Time to change them Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Since most of our Spridgets are not daily drivers and we use them only sporadically, I would strongly recommend that when you replace the brake hoses, that you install braided ones rather than plain rubber ones. Sure, they are more expensive, but they hold up much longer and don't exhibit the internal degradation like the stock ones do over time. The stainless steel braid protects the rubber internal hose from the elements and from kinks. Last time I bought them for my occasional driver '72 they cost about $85 for a set of two fronts and one rear. Everyone I know who vintage races a Spridget (including me and my '67) uses the braided lines on their car because a race car sits idle even more than a street car although usually in a protected, indoor environment. Cheap insurance against brake problems or failure. Hose clamps are definitely not a good idea. Bob Spruck SafetyFast Vintage Race Team On 2/18/2013 4:20 PM, GUY DAY wrote: > Hi all, > I would endorse James' message and add a plea that you do not use hose > clamps even though there are tools designed and purpose built for the > job. The inner lining tube of the hose is squashed flat when the hose > is clamped and at the flattened edges of the compressed section it is > squashed to the point where it can begin to split and / or delaminate > from the outer bracing part of the hose. By definition, for the clamp > to work, the hose has to be 'abused' to this degree. > > This can cause a 'flap' in the pipe and dependant on which way the > flap is formed fluid can either be blocked from reaching the slave > cylinder or it can hold pressure so the brake is locked on and will > not release. You can create the situation where pedal pressure feels > to be fine but the brake(s) are not working. > > Mostly, you will get away with using a hose clamp but that hose has > been damaged internally, it cannot be seen from the outside and it is > a weak point for the future. > > Guy R Day > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Gruber" <> > To: > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 7:43 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Hoses - Time to change them > > >> I was able to confirm this morning that the issue with brakes that >> caused me >> to pull Bugsy off of the road in August and miss all of the rest of >> the year >> for Spridget Fun was caused by a failed RF Brake Hose. I finally had >> time in >> my schedule to perform some Maintenance on Bugsy today and replaced >> all brake >> hoses and Brake Master. Issue was stepping on brakes Bugsy pulled >> sharply to >> the left as if RF Brake was not working properly. A test this PM after >> I replaced the RF Hose showed me that air would not pass through this >> hose. >> Maybe fluid but definitely there was my problem. >> >> For all of you new >> Spridgeteers, trying to bring one back to life, max life on brake >> hoses is 10 >> years and Spridget manual says 2 years and 24k miles. These hoses >> were 12 y.o. >> Yes I know but hoses had < 10k miles on them. Replace the hoses, it >> could save >> your life. >> ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Feb 18 16:39:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C26ED4056D for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:39:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm2-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.158]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F5B40355 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 16:38:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.98] by nm2.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2013 23:32:18 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.88] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2013 23:32:18 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Feb 2013 23:32:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 51757 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Feb 2013 23:32:18 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361230338; bh=hvvebRUB87X4p+IN24X3Kzz0OEuL2rmMSa3uPTYpmlo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CgNE8Yf5SDzk5FZJdn7xPg8SPsKbuyx1d/xoqZ+mQpsg+dd4ARr6huAPf4w4R509apeR/J7SwaGfukbrXALEJNPenXTx2xxtxgumDHgdjBYcSp0NeuoE2JHwxsx+uB/NHFua0sTuUdTwzoDfvX9V5RwmAK3a77WZJjuoO0uLk/Q= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Wkte18S0c3JA7lzNjsweyxGIJCR7AvWHCSdMFnqws3hQYAHi+RDf6pKry+SceC2VkLI7gFsbnCAaxOlQ94q66l7EAK2ZBkamX6AkqD/8IfJtFwwzfvlHNKAlQIZC0yBSupF0d2viSjEmJ49Dj2RM11qcHKu/229n6IsD1ftRxew=; 7IgLsLH1lncq0OG17xVVUBPmOPykBLtQ3So7ELQB7T2aqesryOJ9q7h.NgL3 .DT.px_nOtZU2yH2FngsC52BJyFIpOXED54FRlcJUqiKjcqWM3izFAT9Ujf4 4wxHmuSXyYlMsvvEnBkwmd9PnDN0jWECHTgM3VS1Jk5icmD0v54Tt_rLad1F rgogwDN_9sA_D1Rni6e911US__MszLNmniZrO1S0VwZbHrvNTLOi6AwiO9Po oQhOzLToijZjkD0A4BscSI29dlom5Vsh4q0ktOdExQUSxPCWhgpx2hwIetPz ZzPgqDC1zx_LxyGy8LojCXVJejTkOVlxqKBCk..B2LUmkoZmXb5BwXoO5_8e GmZbNMrnbbDTN.T9y7nQ.d0LKC1euhJWuo0U7qC6E507qEECWIdkytpivXdN RS0Oo8eNz.uQAuS4c10WzAV1nivTAOhM9wTe4vZBglG0i9mt3u5H3P70qJ0f 5C4CRksvGVxp9pQRapqoWaXf5YK3hVilS0aiMSKMO9N3KYSJy8HGdcQxsnOG jHkogMh0GRbxfVssRZQ-- Received: from [174.67.227.194] by web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:32:17 PST SSBtYWtlIERPVCBzcGVjIFN0YWlubGVzcyBob3NlcyBmb3IgYWxsIG9mIHRoZSBNR3MgYW5kIEF1c3RpbiBIZWFsZXlzLiDCoFRoZSB0aHJlZSBsaW5lIHNldCBmb3IgdGhlIE1pZGdldC9TcHJpdGUgcnVucyAkNzkuOTUuIMKgTWluZSBoYXZlIGEga2V2bGFyIHByb3RlY3Rpb24gc2xlZXZlIGJldHdlZW4gdGhlIGlubmVyIHRlZmxvbiB0dWJlIGFuZCB0aGUgb3V0ZXIgc3RlZWwgYnJhaWQuIEkgYWxzbyBjb3ZlciB0aGUgc3RlZWwgYnJhaWQgd2l0aCBhIGNsZWFyIHNocmluayB0dWJpbmcgdG8ga2VlcCB0cmEBMAEBAQE- References: <1361216601.79932.YahooMailNeo@web162601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <8E0B61CAB6EC45BCA510065524DA7630@user8634b3d69b> <5122B5BB.4060308@bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 15:32:17 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Christiansen To: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake Hoses - Time to change them Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I make DOT spec Stainless hoses for all of the MGs and Austin Healeys. The three line set for the Midget/Sprite runs $79.95. Mine have a kevlar protection sleeve between the inner teflon tube and the outer steel braid. I also cover the steel braid with a clear shrink tubing to keep trash, gravel dirt etc out of the steel braid to give the hoses longer life and makes them easier to clean. I can even do the shrink in colors if you want. I keep several set of the Sprite/Midget lines on the shelf all the time. Steve Christiansen Ol Phartz Partz 714-686-1236 www.olphartz.com schris51@att.net ________________________________ From: Bob Spruck To: spridgets@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake Hoses - Time to change them Since most of our Spridgets are not daily drivers and we use them only sporadically, I would strongly recommend that when you replace the brake hoses, that you install braided ones rather than plain rubber ones. Sure, they are more expensive, but they hold up much longer and don't exhibit the internal degradation like the stock ones do over time. The stainless steel braid protects the rubber internal hose from the elements and from kinks. Last time I bought them for my occasional driver '72 they cost about $85 for a set of two fronts and one rear. Everyone I know who vintage races a Spridget (including me and my '67) uses the braided lines on their car because a race car sits idle even more than a street car although usually in a protected, indoor environment. Cheap insurance against brake problems or failure. Hose clamps are definitely not a good idea. Bob Spruck SafetyFast Vintage Race Team On 2/18/2013 4:20 PM, GUY DAY wrote: > Hi all, > I would endorse James' message and add a plea that you do not use hose clamps even though there are tools designed and purpose built for the job. The inner lining tube of the hose is squashed flat when the hose is clamped and at the flattened edges of the compressed section it is squashed to the point where it can begin to split and / or delaminate from the outer bracing part of the hose. By definition, for the clamp to work, the hose has to be 'abused' to this degree. > > This can cause a 'flap' in the pipe and dependant on which way the flap is formed fluid can either be blocked from reaching the slave cylinder or it can hold pressure so the brake is locked on and will not release. You can create the situation where pedal pressure feels to be fine but the brake(s) are not working. > > Mostly, you will get away with using a hose clamp but that hose has been damaged internally, it cannot be seen from the outside and it is a weak point for the future. > > Guy R Day > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Gruber" <> > To: > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 7:43 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Brake Hoses - Time to change them > > >> I was able to confirm this morning that the issue with brakes that caused me >> to pull Bugsy off of the road in August and miss all of the rest of the year >> for Spridget Fun was caused by a failed RF Brake Hose. I finally had time in >> my schedule to perform some Maintenance on Bugsy today and replaced all brake >> hoses and Brake Master. Issue was stepping on brakes Bugsy pulled sharply to >> the left as if RF Brake was not working properly. A test this PM after >> I replaced the RF Hose showed me that air would not pass through this hose. >> Maybe fluid but definitely there was my problem. >> >> For all of you new >> Spridgeteers, trying to bring one back to life, max life on brake hoses is 10 >> years and Spridget manual says 2 years and 24k miles. These hoses were 12 y.o. >> Yes I know but hoses had < 10k miles on them. Replace the hoses, it could save >> your life. >> ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/schris51@att.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 19 01:00:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58D294056E for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 01:00:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p00mm-asmtp006.mac.com (nk11p00mm-asmtp006.mac.com [17.158.161.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7830A40423 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 00:55:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.0.9] (unknown [108.247.153.33]) by nk11p00mm-asmtp006.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MIG00AONJ1QLH50@nk11p00mm-asmtp006.mac.com> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 07:49:03 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-02-18_07:2013-02-18,2013-02-18,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=2 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1302180411 From: Bob Kitterer Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:49:01 -0800 To: Spridgets References: <4087FBA26B9E4496A4CD0A6C8A578E5D@HomeComputer> Subject: [Spridgets] New Web Site - some LBC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Folks, The preliminary version of our new web site is up. The site is about our hobbies which of course includes the Sprite, other cars that I have owned and soon some of our other activities in addition to our travels. This site also contains the log pages from our 2009 to 2011 travels along with a little additional information. This is just the early version of the site but we would appreciate any comments - how does the site look, how easy is it to navigate, does it sound interesting or any other comments, positive or negative. Also let me know if you would like to be notified when new information has been added. Like the old sites I will have a notify list. The site is at: http://www.gpsztwo.net pronounced gypsy two Bob and Dolores 1960 Austin Healey Sprite (Mk IV in disguise) 1966 Austin Healey Sprite Mk III (Trevor) - still in boxes ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 19 05:03:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571734056F for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:03:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm5.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm5.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.206]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DED4040F for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:00:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.194] by nm5.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2013 11:54:00 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.100] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2013 11:54:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1005.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2013 11:54:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 9688 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Feb 2013 11:53:59 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361274839; bh=TMfJ+APF4Zm4c4jHIGnnghl7c3WJdJphioiupMQc9bA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QRk9t3VtGUKUXmkuW56HZYWfC6XZAwvZOfPUof/aBGhe2q7uvjXFPrJZ6PeIlnCuWfnwZQDzcKHZED4INz3v2/k5eL9YHS2NtztgWZh4qvgHPupmR4VYtxD7xrO7VY1FNOVCMi6W2uSYkbPEs4PcueA+QA3qxRxKpLP1NunEb+c= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PFMG2LGrDpro5u5hIv7HCW88dEHQ0fh3hTx3xTUBOO58YlnvWOKrFu4Z7XGsbehHjXAnFvFABxevWt8RNvEMUBoIjOD8/j8em+QISG3GXyIpWxB9iF3PHTLteWTe+cM+J3Vk11m6l960zf2HmVozD9JoW1E5Xt3BcZUXXLjCZJE=; ompvl1YFdnNEOvCEmFVtCa4x47RUGnJnbiFqMAKmh0Rjt5eUfqmWGrgLtaPo IEAPjDom87gPNxKtKp9kR2rQnZIm0dlHEVjo.XMJRpCoq2ad.bkvBAzgGQkA V.UJmPV3A8VIYudLwWiAftz_tcn00b.F32YcJC509.Uue4FWm6IkdOTqq777 qOVIGwYVPdjV_uMZWduy6rwju3lyTpyXl2sdrd2.0EKNADnSqGOP1Jz5lLYz 0rM36p7I.CN9awmEf1zLXEQmcQGrbaSvibRlJWd59Df_SqNL_Lr_9a6DCRdG vsNLUJKQ4WytUTLhUv.6FvLZWqM3p_0IiF0qwTp3ooK2KA1RRkUopVQ3ju5M zfsAINxkjdroqUsXfrZaa3PBr6XWNsspa3VQXiPVsZXEXMJwMD61FCr4J376 sxjl3AD_cD8k64TMEOCfCOew- Received: from [99.101.224.117] by web181106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 03:53:59 PST VG8gdGhvc2Ugb2YgeW91IHRoYXQgZ290IHNwYW0gZnJvbSBteSBlbWFpbCBiZWNhdXNlIEkgZ290IGhhY2tlZCwgc29ycnkuwqAgSSBqdXN0IGNoYW5nZWQgbXkgZW1haWwgcGFzc3dvcmQsIHNvIGhvcGVmdWxseSBubyBzcGFtIGZvciBhIHdoaWxlLg0KTWlrZSBNYWNMZWFuDQo2MCBTcHJpdGUNCjU2IEJOMg0KATABAQEB Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 03:53:59 -0800 (PST) From: Michael MacLean To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Hacked! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net To those of you that got spam from my email because I got hacked, sorry. I just changed my email password, so hopefully no spam for a while. Mike MacLean 60 Sprite 56 BN2 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 19 05:05:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B31A440687 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:05:28 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth14.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth14.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAC3C403DA for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:05:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from [71.236.143.70] (helo=spider) by smtpauth14.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1U7lqb-00047t-EY for spridgets@autox.team.net; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:58:57 -0500 From: To: Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 03:58:54 -0800 Thread-Index: Ac4OmH1O/iLIDkMISIK59beIXeJdIA== Subject: [Spridgets] for those of us that are flying low in our Spridgets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Bunnies taking toll on cars at Denver airport Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:44:15 -0500 DENVER (AP) - Silly rabbits. The furry creatures are wreaking havoc on cars parked at Denver International Airport by eating spark plug cables and other wiring. To stop the problem, federal wildlife workers are removing at least 100 bunnies a month while parking companies install better fences and build perches for predator hawks and eagles. Airport spokeswoman Laura Coale says that out of 4.3 million parking transactions in 2012, three claims were submitted for rodent or rabbit damage, and none was submitted with a claim for towing. KCNC-TV (http://tinyurl.com/awjoyne ) reports there's another way to stop the damage that can cost thousands of dollars to repair. Mechanics say coating the wires with fox or coyote urine can rob the rabbits of their appetite. Fox urine can be purchased at many hunting shops. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 19 05:29:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C03BF4056F for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:29:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [66.147.249.253]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 761274040F for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:29:21 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 26802 invoked by uid 0); 19 Feb 2013 12:22:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2013 12:22:48 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=uT2nguKPhFy4mwdSKs1LOKjIHbhncc5oCHHfQmoTHtQ=; b=V6GDCSKctkWMxQCNLbav1QZL/R1Qb7zjFLp5Qnz0HRwJKnXSNyvICJyAjzV57GcP9dca16r5eOaAKV2TYloAcIjhB3PyASCoBEdDmSDK1Z2krM4fl1HZtHCv4AaMbeId; Received: from [24.15.13.164] (port=38662 helo=[192.168.0.106]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U7mDg-0006Ga-5r for spridgets@autox.team.net; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 05:22:48 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:22:49 -0600 From: "\" Just Brits \" Shop" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130107 Thunderbird/17.0.2 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <1361274839.95478.YahooMailClassic@web181106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with sales@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Hacked! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Well Mike, you "blessed" 9issa ! ! ! Thank you ! But it is the only place I've seen it. Ed ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 19 06:06:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D9D54056D for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:06:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm37-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm37-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.238.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABAC04044D for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 06:05:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.148] by nm37.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2013 12:59:16 -0000 Received: from [98.139.213.14] by tm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2013 12:59:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp114.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Feb 2013 12:59:15 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361278755; bh=hnIY8Lb2f3ORa8dfcClnQbJJ0brHnZ1wQbGgrYVniCc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Importance:From:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IpSOdvFH/nHfPXWQQzuGUp39c6wP8pV1K+9xbH1mhziEv0JK+2RTp5X5cHiBeDaWCAwbFNIubyf6oKasPBOrByK0agcpcV7DoBVjAOQV4VM38OeqlmnHE+7owVY9JnTIWuSuVdh1w/SgumBKWO0/Xz0jtz81s6NFN6Xi6DYSj88= 3icmSRYNUqilN.UY2yzK1zi3oyQNH8d7g_dF_Q36AKoJgtmn3OXYTicw_vHq hJ3yWxWUikB3l3s9xzOs0iGokQr4Jr02WEWcoVqF3TUkc.iR57C9i0yFpvGc 8dEgq8mcsB3MO2fczrqwvUQ_.4XYc7vE4gLHrqb6QYU6EkhirPECbdk7E3bG nUdlL6D_lTC0i.Jl7R4QKf2TwHFbRcGZ3xKAAmADKpGjCWOssj5jeQ34Utya ek2OlFJpI.NxO736dZrWRth6iKFKtueQEMkBLuGIBgjz94yISXxFy.U8f7u3 KATkPW6PQnR5SXGFPS6GNAsDmiBBiHQ7ntTlzqf83u4oHhF1MmxzbDG4_uJW EtcBsDAXZMUWm3.qnT6ef4XVsuJjbIF8vR5bz_hOP9MxZ06cAJiXspJEKEpc HCepWBQ5rFmP1wuTlJ5oezZZAxhfmSO46nU_k8Pcm8EqWGKeBM3kEY2PC8GI UeSXPJeo3FKmE_Zedw5.sOVgGJvrfLAZ.oJSal0UbKPNd7p9QScHIYSJMOSr .tNZQw_S04Uzp Received: from localhost (tncarnut1@208.54.37.198 with plain) by smtp114.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Feb 2013 04:59:15 -0800 PST Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 07:52:37 -0500 From: Tncarnut1 To: corvallis@peoplepc.com, spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] for those of us that are flying low in our Spridgets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I can see it now... A sales kiosk at the lot entrance selling spritz bottles of fox pee with maybe a brief instructional video on how to apply it playing on continuous loop at large overhead monitors... >From my Android phone on T-Mobile. The first nationwide 4G network. corvallis@peoplepc.com wrote: Bunnies taking toll on cars at Denver airport Fri, 15 Feb 2013 18:44:15 -0500 DENVER (AP) - Silly rabbits. The furry creatures are wreaking havoc on cars parked at Denver International Airport by eating spark plug cables and other wiring. To stop the problem, federal wildlife workers are removing at least 100 bunnies a month while parking companies install better fences and build perches for predator hawks and eagles. Airport spokeswoman Laura Coale says that out of 4.3 million parking transactions in 2012, three claims were submitted for rodent or rabbit damage, and none was submitted with a claim for towing. KCNC-TV (http://tinyurl.com/awjoyne ) reports there's another way to stop the damage that can cost thousands of dollars to repair. Mechanics say coating the wires with fox or coyote urine can rob the rabbits of their appetite. Fox urine can be purchased at many hunting shops. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 19 15:17:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886A740E39 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:17:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3C740645 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 15:17:14 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=kth2O+84CppxJ52HDnyog70haqp2PmEZkpovx6qvFzgjqT66SDh7KVMCiV2srbpY; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [128.95.226.232] (helo=richball) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1U7vOe-0001Ww-W1 for spridgets@autox.team.net; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:10:45 -0500 From: "Richard Ball" To: Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 14:10:44 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system There have been a few threads posted to the forums recently on problems bleeding the 1500 Midget's Hydraulic clutch system. Since I just recently had similar issues I thought I would post my observations, impressions and solutions. A few weeks ago I went out to take the Midget for a spin up to the store and was greeted by a non functioning clutch pedal. After investigating a bit I came to the conclusion that the slave cylinder had finally given out on me. I ordered an original Lockheed rebuild kit from Peter C., did a light honing pass to clean it up and rebuilt it. After getting everything back in and buttoned up I called for my lovely assistant Susan (wife) and we set about trying to bleed it. Trying is the key here. We spent an hour plus and at least a pint of LMA trying to get it working with no luck. I see two areas in the system that contribute to problems bleeding in the traditional way. The first problem I needed to over come was the air that was trapped in the arch of the line connecting the master to the slave. On the 1500 the line is a transparent tube that arches up before heading down to the slave. The problem I was having was that the volume of fluid being sent through the line was not sufficient to move the air down the vertical rise. The air bubble would slide up past the fluid and back to the high point of the arch. Phil Jones came to my aid here by loaning me his Eezibleed system. This pressurized bleeder worked great and was able to move enough fluid under pressure to move the air bubble out of the line. Unfortunately it took up residence in the slave cylinder. The second problem I came across has to do with the bleed valve on the slave. First off it is located slightly below the high point of the cylinder so any trapped air can not flow out easily even with the rear of the car raised above the front. Adding to this is the limited space to rotate a wrench placed on the bleed valve. You're only able to open the bleed valve a slight amount to release the fluid with a flair nut wrench and hose on the bleed valve. This low flow was not enough to force the air out of the slave. What I found worked well was to use a 7/16 box wrench that could slide off over a hose on the bleed valve so I could reposition the wrench and rotated it again several times. This allowed me to open the valve much wider. This in combination with the pressure of the Eezibleed to move the fluid cleared all the air that was still trapped in the slave. >From my experience the most successful way to bleed the clutch on the 1500 Midget is to have a high fluid flow rate so the air in the system gets caught up with the fluid flow and pulled out along with it. Sorry if this was long winded, but I thought it might be useful to others that are having the same problem. Rich Ball '76 Midget ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 19 16:25:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51E340E3E for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 16:25:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail32c40.carrierzone.com (mail32c40.carrierzone.com [209.235.156.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8939B40412 for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 16:25:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from Dell9200 (c-68-54-232-133.hsd1.tn.comcast.net [68.54.232.133]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail32c40.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r1JNIXYr017435 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 19 Feb 2013 23:18:35 +0000 From: "Mark" To: "Spridgets" References: Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:18:34 -0600 a=cUc2F2WRkygA:10 a=zZKT3jqqOw0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=V6f-GIhDAAAA:8 a=RHD0OnUet2cA:10 a=-WEq5aJJ0YeIU4SCcQkA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=ioEdG6JV2FXgDYO15tK7Tw==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net A few years ago I discovered a simple little trick to bleed those pesky clutch systems. Empty all of the fluid from the system including the master. Hook up a new pump type oil can with a foot or two of hose that fits over the slave bleed nipple. Fill the oil can with brake fluid and pump the fluid up hill to the master. It will push the air the way it wants' to go anyway, up. It worked for me, one person and one attempt. Mark Nashville Subject: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system There have been a few threads posted to the forums recently on problems bleeding the 1500 Midget's Hydraulic clutch system. Since I just recently had similar issues I thought I would post my observations, impressions and solutions. >From my experience the most successful way to bleed the clutch on the 1500 Midget is to have a high fluid flow rate so the air in the system gets caught up with the fluid flow and pulled out along with it. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 20 22:48:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29A842476 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2013 22:48:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm25-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.191]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB11C40516 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2013 22:48:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.195] by nm25.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2013 05:41:33 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.105] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2013 05:41:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Feb 2013 05:41:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 67411 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Feb 2013 05:41:22 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361425282; bh=lHdFrN2+XhHJkls4QqvBQKwQPIutEHhtYO9k+yFfEhU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ezrYNUE+WO4zHHcp4L16deGq79R2bi6/RczOa9i/3YiVW6bl9KMNUP25NIDS+hEEuw+POB7OxG63gzlUdO5n3DDSbyGnf4H9cErYchZwjxduo2kYehbwX4eEIXK9hPVFrmvJge1ns4QkE81lbJ24a2/ZUmZqcY5RVj7+4Kk239c= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=d+Bg0p98FoNm2rmXOX9D1tMMFm5utAyrCKtUNm42qb39NUEE5mAAl0/r5UIvz9zgbikJd4vtGmQsrx0OAYlR8RTAOMbayUg9kRWjC7qSiC0AZD6yrY6FvIiyjEhYSCib9OGrUhqO1dTibTpwsYSMXqtZr5inKYI/WBsiD0e2A58=; f.TFd2vsx_.wQLJNNNwCpvY7s4cqyjEHAjHotGILzUV6GZSzDENvh7.RFOOD tILFouBVELr62q8FxUiQb7e0L52SIcsSo4LUsBuIKONcJ.TlfAENDcM2I9SF u6mLaVy33CL9xAQS8rQeAUva412L0kQ958sCjpmdR3LOu7B4AfCdadPUkIKx L_XTtBKdVqj1bikrcyQ4F41t1ALq_inEKefXo0_yAxVe_gsyJnowsOP0ck1h cDWDA.j60mQbF_VI60eSsTHX2.GrdGjjiuyzxokdMWlvCVklcIx_QXB1ZiWQ .c7_ZNnpOJY04G5Joihyg4xW7onlVeAEaG0AhaAGU6.Ssm9odmGgfs0a8F8u 2sW6_ScVHBNDmVKqDbsxT5WYAEVTy92SqN2Qe3p8bj9TIZ9sQQp23yTzyaVa 8ud_ffXkvOu9nb3gvyOsqB7N63Rgf2fe0BfXx1w3Jkubr_9xR7daOiiVGg2R YvIh24Jlj_k74kGjLt9aE4nJW0DRLXpEXwEu__i4A2XvJy1jvgDj8Gr3BhN8 36KpmYrKwkgw.ah0RHQ-- Received: from [108.195.220.51] by web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 20 Feb 2013 21:41:22 PST UmljaCwgCgpJIGtub3cgb2YgdGhpcyBwcm9ibGVtLsKgIEl0IGlzIHRoZSBzYW1lIHByb2JsZW0gVHJpdW1waCBoYXMgaGFkIHNpbmNlIGRheSBvbmUgd2l0aCBhbGwgb2YgdGhlIFNwaXRmaXJlLCBHVDYgYW5kIEhlcmFsZC7CoCBUaGUgY3VyZSBmb3IgYmxlZWRpbmcgYSBjbHV0Y2ggaXMgdmVyeSBlYXN5LsKgIEkgc2VsbCBhIHJlbW90ZSBibGVlZGVyIGtpdCBmb3IgdGhlIE1pZGdldHMgYW5kIFNwaXRmaXJlcy4gVGhpcyBtYWtlcyBibGVlZGluZyBhIG9uZSBtYW4gcHJvY2VzcyBhbmQgbGVzcyB0aGFuIGEBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2013 21:41:22 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Christiansen To: Richard Ball , "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Rich, I know of this problem. It is the same problem Triumph has had since day one with all of the Spitfire, GT6 and Herald. The cure for bleeding a clutch is very easy. I sell a remote bleeder kit for the Midgets and Spitfires. This makes bleeding a one man process and less than a ten minute job. Bleeding can be done without jacking up the car. Steve Christiansen Ol Phartz Partz 714-686-1236 www.olphartz.com schris51@att.net ________________________________ From: Richard Ball To: spridgets@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:10 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system There have been a few threads posted to the forums recently on problems bleeding the 1500 Midget's Hydraulic clutch system. Since I just recently had similar issues I thought I would post my observations, impressions and solutions. A few weeks ago I went out to take the Midget for a spin up to the store and was greeted by a non functioning clutch pedal. After investigating a bit I came to the conclusion that the slave cylinder had finally given out on me. I ordered an original Lockheed rebuild kit from Peter C., did a light honing pass to clean it up and rebuilt it. After getting everything back in and buttoned up I called for my lovely assistant Susan (wife) and we set about trying to bleed it. Trying is the key here. We spent an hour plus and at least a pint of LMA trying to get it working with no luck. I see two areas in the system that contribute to problems bleeding in the traditional way. The first problem I needed to over come was the air that was trapped in the arch of the line connecting the master to the slave. On the 1500 the line is a transparent tube that arches up before heading down to the slave. The problem I was having was that the volume of fluid being sent through the line was not sufficient to move the air down the vertical rise. The air bubble would slide up past the fluid and back to the high point of the arch. Phil Jones came to my aid here by loaning me his Eezibleed system. This pressurized bleeder worked great and was able to move enough fluid under pressure to move the air bubble out of the line. Unfortunately it took up residence in the slave cylinder. The second problem I came across has to do with the bleed valve on the slave. First off it is located slightly below the high point of the cylinder so any trapped air can not flow out easily even with the rear of the car raised above the front. Adding to this is the limited space to rotate a wrench placed on the bleed valve. You're only able to open the bleed valve a slight amount to release the fluid with a flair nut wrench and hose on the bleed valve. This low flow was not enough to force the air out of the slave. What I found worked well was to use a 7/16 box wrench that could slide off over a hose on the bleed valve so I could reposition the wrench and rotated it again several times. This allowed me to open the valve much wider. This in combination with the pressure of the Eezibleed to move the fluid cleared all the air that was still trapped in the slave. >From my experience the most successful way to bleed the clutch on the 1500 Midget is to have a high fluid flow rate so the air in the system gets caught up with the fluid flow and pulled out along with it. Sorry if this was long winded, but I thought it might be useful to others that are having the same problem. Rich Ball '76 Midget ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/schris51@att.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Feb 21 12:21:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CA9D4248A for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 12:21:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f53.google.com (mail-pa0-f53.google.com [209.85.220.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56967403DB for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 12:18:18 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id bg4so4858169pad.12 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 11:11:40 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9LdhxQ8r91j0KmH+HIs4mNFBOdih7sPmL+hyxgkrQoE=; b=fQkKzI2IIYSg9W/rFSlg9Nn4IlUKtuCSJefj01bXEtBDWk60LUqM8PhLEcaM5JrW8g zX9dJQdXYxvLvXUlr+7ixZkfLUVypelWe4XXmNuBQV2fqtUTWnFJbmkuCFLoHTsvcSHB 67sybPJ41I6flF3ts9uHwu3IyXAIwkdZVm/cs2jGGnIXqDexqhA/W5bwetqCizP/+xOX LlQemV5CSctO9fdl4Cyg4IFRlb6J3u8x1WSzioftkVNC2L09MDuiBNQ4tjafFN03fol/ FBKj353TMMaSN5DaoX4O5YKXeSVSuiMWLORldQGrUR6aldyJNdK7fT62U3dXPeWNDLxp WK5Q== Thu, 21 Feb 2013 11:11:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.81.201 with HTTP; Thu, 21 Feb 2013 11:11:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2013 11:11:40 -0800 From: Rick Bastedo To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Contrast this with my recent experience bleeding the clutch on my 1980 Datsun 210. I replaced the master and the slave and bled the system. The only hard part was getting the nuts removed to pull the master, not a lot of clearance on the lower of the two. Once everything was R&R'd I filled the reservoir and put about 8 feet of tubing on the slave's nipple. Opened the bleeder and pumped a few times and topped up the fluid and pumped some more and closed the bleeder. Filled the master and put on the cap. Done! What did they do right that the Brits never could figure out? The hydraulic line goes right out of the master and then down to the slave. No bending in the line that creates high spots. That's the only difference I see, the master and slave are so close to being the same as the Spridget units it's scary. I'm tempted to measure the bolt holes to see if one will fit the other, especially since new master costs less than $30 and new slave is less than $15. Ridiculous that we have so much trouble with the Spridgets. Even on my Midget with the Datsun transmission and clutch slave since it has the British master cylinder it's a nightmare to bleed. Rick Bastedo From: Steve Christiansen > To: Richard Ball > "spridgets@autox.team.net" > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the > 1500 clutch system > > Rich, > I know of this problem. It is the same problem Triumph has had since > day one with all of the Spitfire, GT6 and Herald. The cure for bleeding a > clutch is very easy. I sell a remote bleeder kit for the Midgets and > Spitfires. This makes bleeding a one man process and less than a ten minute > job. Bleeding can be done without jacking up the car. > > Steve Christiansen > Ol > Phartz Partz > 714-686-1236 > ________________________________ > From: Richard Ball > To: spridgets@autox.team.net > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:10 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions > for bleeding the 1500 clutch system > > Observations and impressions for > bleeding the 1500 clutch system > > There have been a few threads posted to the > forums recently on problems > bleeding the 1500 Midget's Hydraulic clutch > system. Since I just recently had > similar issues I thought I would post my > observations, impressions and > solutions. > ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 22 05:25:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529BD403CF for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:25:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 255934040D for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:24:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6ADBB1C000070; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:17:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-doe001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-doe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.163.65]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 04933E00008A; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:17:34 -0500 (EST) From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 07:17:33 -0500 (EST) To: rbastedo@gmail.com, spridgets@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1361535454; bh=mBq2jIQ2W6qNnubKeXCnGtr+J4nvaCuVk/dvYfZaP7Y=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZVX4nCF2GGGS/9cC3g1g/uHTCXcPOEVaKOn+DY26Ljgn2A5XQpMVMMcv/DTrANao6 0iEiSy8O00nY8B3k3QT3vVGQBNE9xaw0M17rc+aNGM/EaQqGeLJeHQByPDXv3evSR7 ztP+fMhaumAGEme6wzHPP7v+lAq9qhUnsAwSRmpE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c7512761de3075 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Had about 20 years to learn from the mistakes of others? In a message dated 21/02/2013 19:14:36 GMT Standard Time, rbastedo@gmail.com writes: What did they do right that the Brits never could figure out? ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 22 10:27:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 963714248B for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:27:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f174.google.com (mail-wi0-f174.google.com [209.85.212.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED7A403E4 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:26:56 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-wi0-f174.google.com with SMTP id hi8so1217797wib.1 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:20:13 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=f6IOzgLHoGZXfAHvgP+J4nCeFUO/lrDWUyfthhvMC6A=; b=IxtvEvEEwOiXG2IMWA6gw74unLm/N+e7CUGbEiOGkqqjIKcKI4RWFgOF+S5EHK6WAb KtveHnCJYAkMZWptVd2PRnIfeZYCkWj6k3PQMEKZB5Pqr8FSzQfWI8f+6g3Uopsg0RGb P8G24N3d2Qo/CJnjulRXcF25dXH2Bua6S4WCaYgwUdbVovO+I8P42eZiBGlGp5BMtkYq H2sl3z32j6e4e5ePsxd1f56ZfXsA//P5z/ZwtPmT0Lo5yqL8eYVaYwdO6zBSvda61wKQ QYDHl4oEcC+gOX4exoS9TpghLlWZEvQnAm6zrVu1w9iwRW3RSBPgmFkYr5CHqVOsCGXD 2+PQ== cp7mr5043961wjb.19.1361553613420; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.231.156 with HTTP; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:20:13 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 09:20:13 -0800 From: Rick Bastedo To: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, they were very good at that. I've found their A series motor copies to be extremely bullet proof. When matched with a decent pair of British SU's and nestled into the engine bay of a Midget they get right out and scoot. Except for the "Nissan" on the valve cover they look right at home in there too. And of course there's no mucking about with adapters to get a 5 speed transmission mounted behind them. Now, can I get the Datsun clutch master to fit? I've got to do a little measuring. I know the part that goes through the firewall looks just like the one for the Midget so I think it really will come down to bolt hole spacing. And of course a little pipe rerouting but that should be trivial. If someone else has already looked into this please chime in. Rick Bastedo On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 4:17 AM, wrote: > ** > Had about 20 years to learn from the mistakes of others? > > In a message dated 21/02/2013 19:14:36 GMT Standard Time, > rbastedo@gmail.com writes: > > What did they do right that the Brits never could figure out? ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 22 10:35:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66C7642498 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:35:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy1-pub.bluehost.com [66.147.249.253]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F183403E4 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:34:20 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 16133 invoked by uid 0); 22 Feb 2013 17:27:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy1.bluehost.com with SMTP; 22 Feb 2013 17:27:35 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=14WYN8cpD5DdQwjcx0jjcGhGg7TTc+nxyt6mmOZ1/P8=; b=XmI10u+WFYHPEE2n6EkuBZBSle3aopcFZM/LuMVkTQoG8m9D+8Gth7NQkM1t1/79B5Z6zOgbdVdso43rFWl/s/LGevup0srtfxqgO8UTAP1eIjNOWGzMwQ1rsDuhKvxD; Received: from [24.15.13.164] (port=36178 helo=[192.168.0.106]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U8wPH-0000qZ-Ke for spridgets@autox.team.net; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:27:35 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:27:38 -0600 From: "\" Just Brits \" Shop" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 To: 4 - Spridgets References: {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with sales@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Motorhead 101 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Lin, this in late yesterday and what YOU need to do TO your 'truck' ! ! ! ! ! On 2/21/2013 7:57 PM, Rick F. wrote: > 1963 Volkswagen VW ! > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1963-Volkswagen-VW-Custom-Shorty-Pickup-Truck-/160977958124?ViewItem=&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123&item=160977958124&forcev4exp=true or http://tinyurl.com/a8l5wxf Anon ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 22 11:09:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B3854249E for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:09:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp-fo.knology.synacor.com [64.8.71.118]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A283E403E7 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:09:07 -0700 (MST) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=NM-2Wi9R0k4A:10 a=DA-v0VzzAAAA:8 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=qlMWftYtBewA:10 a=F1FRwMALKVwurh_VYgwA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=SG4Sduq70tbZ_QvK7s0A:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=0sCcJJfCGNM8vwGFjuBQtw==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp02.knology.synacor.com smtp.mail=cmlove@knology.net; spf=fail; sender-id=fail Authentication-Results: smtp02.knology.synacor.com header.from=cmlove@knology.net; sender-id=fail Received-SPF: fail (smtp02.knology.synacor.com: domain knology.net does not designate 10.120.0.110 as permitted sender) Received: from [10.120.0.110] ([10.120.0.110:59784] helo=md02.knology.synacor.com) by smtp.knology.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id C9/B4-05385-0B2B7215; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:02:24 -0500 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:02:24 -0500 (EST) From: cmlove@knology.net To: spridgets@autox.team.net (Win)/7.1.4_GA_2555) Subject: [Spridgets] 5 speed oil change Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I lurk mostly but was wondering if someone could help me with this. Of those that have the 5 speed tranny. How do you get the oil into the tranny? Monty Love ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 22 11:13:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10B6403FC for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:13:06 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.161]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FE0403E7 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:13:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.152] by nm24.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2013 18:06:19 -0000 Received: from [98.139.215.254] by tm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2013 18:06:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1067.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Feb 2013 18:06:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 51029 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Feb 2013 18:06:18 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361556378; bh=nGEXrmxHczYPTAXzOwZKSWoAkGHy4BMXSpOsXBbbc1A=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Wqk7+tQJucAY2A9pr1WEvIjkj7GgetMztSnH3hRAQO35CKRfrf7iZzpyFZwtKYx6y+N551mrLR5JjhH71hlwWvTfAIowlejTOlsOF3wgG0PB4FJAHzJNfNjTlwNczEuUHx0TaB4S+j0QajuO4553jVfm7swi+nFuSpg6awmlsXU= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ad4CgHxuyGLffa8Zhxcp8uYqi3I4OwtwtzBtCjJowM4D3iLWUcdEpgDTSd3EajNpIwRw47cuCeBeiVR3LvhCX/3UtuBXfrP+rNqmOU7ZIaDRy6z/ZtilYLHt6gmBMITAVF4K6d9Qqxgw77tVSrlaFSaUjgAW1dylYIs/eXRhzFQ=; rcJEXQDnh_7nD_QJq1yzv0_ls0ASfzwVwdLgFgUihn1FOhQV4PQirN03COFo 6E25_HEq1A2ZIPkcHuxcGngmkPcQdhlztbw0UMQIzGzC1LjLtdLUZ4DILGUO RaluVE3LmVsSfO7zH9wURhyY5FJVEI38UH8G7778q2OzhvUQI5GAsxbwF4j5 afEutwjwhe0_7PJFW.CgGxVWn1ykHmG9uOA0AFGYoMvbcgdbNxkvEIlJyJ.V DzGikyx.wT4JMgNssTisERSb8Ngpsz5aSkHQ0M1_byUDsM_R4X6hsBotPve5 YgD.CaJCM9CDIv7AzNK.0xUxPDBgnEaKaToRqgGnsdnnGwwjdGBKFPeqNzXk qdfomPB6ZLS1bHWizv2xFcQuzVmLc9Dr8NzwCYrkamh6Az5rgAA3c6FfDnhc pRUjrJW_HrGZQeZ2egl5AbGaGoY8_p8TBbDHg7TdNycxngamOCXMedstzdIu 5x4uLrng_QMzpy2.rTUn32iWzpRRYKQAqh5lO18OycIYwrekGBfGgzNMpLCe 2nZNV84U9P7jkYpZoLbdub2fsY4stYEZKxMRfhsGdLGr9udRM_uviYhFb_KH 0i1dT6ZkMKgjkIr6v1UDMVOxtfCEQ Received: from [130.76.96.150] by web162004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:06:17 PST SSBydW4gYSBjbGVhciBydWJiZXIgdHViZSBkb3duIHRvIHRoZSBmaWxsIGhvbGUgYW5kIGZpbGwgaXQgZnJvbSB0aGUgdG9wLsKgIE1ha2Ugc3VyZSB5b3UgaGF2ZSB5b3VyIGRyYWluIHBhbiB1bmRlcm5lYXRoIQoKCsKgCkVkd2FyZCBQZXJlegpTdW1tZXJ2aWxsZSwgU0MKNzggTWlkZ2V0ICgxMjc1KQpodHRwOi8vd3d3LmZsaWNrci5jb20vcGhvdG9zL2xiY19uZXdiaWUvCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIEZyb206ICJjbWxvdmVAa25vbG9neS5uZXQiIDxjbWxvdmVAa25vbG8BMAEBAQE- References: <3577213.8498842.1361556129681.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> <945391622.8499150.1361556144404.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:06:17 -0800 (PST) From: Edward Perez To: "cmlove@knology.net" , "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 5 speed oil change Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I run a clear rubber tube down to the fill hole and fill it from the top. Make sure you have your drain pan underneath! Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: "cmlove@knology.net" To: spridgets@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 1:02 PM Subject: [Spridgets] 5 speed oil change I lurk mostly but was wondering if someone could help me with this. Of those that have the 5 speed tranny. How do you get the oil into the tranny? Monty Love ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 22 11:44:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6A4E403F5 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:44:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A36403DA for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:43:42 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=BhxSap5zVfckp6bWJTInUBTbosAdM/chwtz8WMA0EUAp6PYZyUmHDAo9wNC5S3Rm; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [128.95.226.232] (helo=richball) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1U8xUP-0001MP-Fk for spridgets@autox.team.net; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:36:57 -0500 From: "Richard Ball" To: "Spridgets" References: Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 10:36:58 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone want a cutting torch (No LBC) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I have an older National brand type 400 cutting torch, free for the cost of shipping, to whoever can use it. The valves are stiff but probably repairable, the lever seems to work. It was headed to the recycle bin and I just thought it would be shame to see it melted down. I already have a cutting torch, so I thought someone here might want it. If no one here wants it I'll offer it up on Garage Journal. Here are a couple shots of it. http://s169.beta.photobucket.com/user/fish_surgeon/media/IMG_2841.jpg.html http://s169.beta.photobucket.com/user/fish_surgeon/media/IMG_2840.jpg.html Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 22 12:37:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04DAE403DA for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:37:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31D6740355 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:37:01 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=N4AHkohhBOFnLgra8ANQpmURBCkH9Tf2N0666nt/Q3LgX09WFynmId2q33sVunll; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [128.95.226.232] (helo=richball) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1U8yK2-0000Pl-IM for spridgets@autox.team.net; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:30:18 -0500 From: "Richard Ball" To: Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 11:30:19 -0800 Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone want a cutting torch (No LBC) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Torch has been claimed. Thanks for the response. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 22 13:23:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CE34044C for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:23:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1770D403D9 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:23:31 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=Ptw/Hv6v46F0kHYGjrTnOJm9HqIuepu4/lRtCzX/MPxhEf9tr9BKqS1oclNtAchY; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [128.95.226.232] (helo=richball) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1U8z32-00070n-86; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:16:48 -0500 From: "Richard Ball" To: "Steve Christiansen" , References: <1361425282.63695.YahooMailNeo@web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:16:49 -0800 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for all the input on this. Some have novel approaches such as removing the slave, removing the master, reverse flow, remote bleeder, Chanting, etc... Now that I have experienced the problem and theorized the process I still think the pressure bleed is the way to go as far as forcing air out. It is a simple solution that does not require removing parts. Reverse bleeding would be similar. I think I might look into adding a remote bleed like Steve mentioned in the future to keep from having to get under the car. Thanks again for the input. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Christiansen To: Richard Ball ; spridgets@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system Rich, I know of this problem. It is the same problem Triumph has had since day one with all of the Spitfire, GT6 and Herald. The cure for bleeding a clutch is very easy. I sell a remote bleeder kit for the Midgets and Spitfires. This makes bleeding a one man process and less than a ten minute job. Bleeding can be done without jacking up the car. Steve Christiansen Ol Phartz Partz 714-686-1236 www.olphartz.com schris51@att.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - From: Richard Ball To: spridgets@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 4:10 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system Observations and impressions for bleeding the 1500 clutch system There have been a few threads posted to the forums recently on problems bleeding the 1500 Midget's Hydraulic clutch system. Since I just recently had similar issues I thought I would post my observations, impressions and solutions. A few weeks ago I went out to take the Midget for a spin up to the store and was greeted by a non functioning clutch pedal. After investigating a bit I came to the conclusion that the slave cylinder had finally given out on me. I ordered an original Lockheed rebuild kit from Peter C., did a light honing pass to clean it up and rebuilt it. After getting everything back in and buttoned up I called for my lovely assistant Susan (wife) and we set about trying to bleed it. Trying is the key here. We spent an hour plus and at least a pint of LMA trying to get it working with no luck. I see two areas in the system that contribute to problems bleeding in the traditional way. The first problem I needed to over come was the air that was trapped in the arch of the line connecting the master to the slave. On the 1500 the line is a transparent tube that arches up before heading down to the slave. The problem I was having was that the volume of fluid being sent through the line was not sufficient to move the air down the vertical rise. The air bubble would slide up past the fluid and back to the high point of the arch. Phil Jones came to my aid here by loaning me his Eezibleed system. This pressurized bleeder worked great and was able to move enough fluid under pressure to move the air bubble out of the line. Unfortunately it took up residence in the slave cylinder. The second problem I came across has to do with the bleed valve on the slave. First off it is located slightly below the high point of the cylinder so any trapped air can not flow out easily even with the rear of the car raised above the front. Adding to this is the limited space to rotate a wrench placed on the bleed valve. You're only able to open the bleed valve a slight amount to release the fluid with a flair nut wrench and hose on the bleed valve. This low flow was not enough to force the air out of the slave. What I found worked well was to use a 7/16 box wrench that could slide off over a hose on the bleed valve so I could reposition the wrench and rotated it again several times. This allowed me to open the valve much wider. This in combination with the pressure of the Eezibleed to move the fluid cleared all the air that was still trapped in the slave. From my experience the most successful way to bleed the clutch on the 1500 Midget is to have a high fluid flow rate so the air in the system gets caught up with the fluid flow and pulled out along with it. Sorry if this was long winded, but I thought it might be useful to others that are having the same problem. Rich Ball '76 Midget ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/schris51@att.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 22 15:45:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A00403FA for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:45:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A5C4403DA for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:44:44 -0700 (MST) a=5wgtrRNRq6/sdRhWg1Jzcw==:17 a=oMD4ibbneAgA:10 a=YpSYHXIrjfcA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=cDfHKznWC64A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=kKrBGjKu_q8_z6Fdya0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=5wgtrRNRq6/sdRhWg1Jzcw==:117 Received: from [184.58.187.219] ([184.58.187.219:64420] helo=WINQQEPQ1J7LO4) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 2A/00-27807-843F7215; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 22:38:00 +0000 From: "Chris Manuel" To: References: Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:37:56 -0600 Thread-Index: AQFRZ7k5dQdtDrPIp2R8alMl5y2oD5l/yncA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Anyone want a cutting torch (No LBC) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net You mean...passed? Eh. Long week. Chris -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Richard Ball Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 1:30 PM To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Anyone want a cutting torch (No LBC) Torch has been claimed. Thanks for the response. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/cmanuel@wi.rr.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Feb 22 17:27:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A78624041A for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:27:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtp2.pacifier.net (smtp2.pacifier.net [64.255.237.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B029E403E0 for ; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 17:27:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (ip117.76.dhcp-acs2.511.iinet.com [198.145.76.117]) by smtp2.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F4432C9FB; Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:20:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:20:13 -0800 From: Bill L To: cmlove@knology.net References: <3577213.8498842.1361556129681.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> <945391622.8499150.1361556144404.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 5 speed oil change Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Cmlove, I get a bottle pump and pump it up into the side plug. I make sure that the side plug will come loose before I drain the tranny. Last time I could NOT get that plug loose. I didn't have a way to get the car high enough to be able to get enough leverage to loosen it. I had to take it to a shop with a lift. They had to use a long wrench and a 3 foot cheater to get it to budge. It did come out without any damage, but WOW was it tight. YMMV -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias@pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" As my grandfather had said in his last words, "A TRUCK!" ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 23 05:00:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A30B40434 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 05:00:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth15.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth15.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2881403E8 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 05:00:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from [71.236.143.70] (helo=spider) by smtpauth15.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1U9DfP-0006Hv-OH for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 06:53:23 -0500 From: To: Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 03:53:23 -0800 thread-index: Ac4RvGGhwaZ6/TsqS2+vU1pt5R6AYg== Subject: [Spridgets] for the person that has 'almost' enough cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem &item=290868569433 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 23 07:21:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45A6740447 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 07:21:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm13-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0C2524042D for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 07:19:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.214.32] by nm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2013 14:12:23 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.215] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2013 14:12:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1024.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2013 14:12:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 82939 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Feb 2013 14:12:23 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361628743; bh=l+zRkqm1Ai0rU58Zj4Rj2vOBEW0vv4MRG0ZIvgc069Y=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zvVeAFdMGDj8sBeoFo84DUXN4XLUJhFeqkevI0WCYd1Z2TFjW3P9Ku461Dr67tfLnR4u5ba29SH45HVjxMnb9euu+05nXOv7w1hjv1rtEuC9abJ9d3pSzKuSn0b2OWhI3Qmw9QIt7XLlT/+8SXB11YPkJwGn3DSsQjJR514iO7U= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=i9fGuUkX5SQ+E/zZPdBdFscx6AtBuX/ci5vHoYEkUK66yx27H1dSaRp1RZ8Gzqidic61AbJiCsrVFSKigYRXD3h6nNJfXzSC0bPPJuQMOSwHx9dJAukOXsz8lOQvhKJk/vnIeQRpJwjWL52aSO1Z+KzeU5iZKYfntc1e0KytJZs=; 3Z3GE6ssgmIBjLBQcu1kbYa4uNKURcARwrhe0iaOawOGih0jR7eA.DEh_dUW G72HVsy9wr3u9X_BpNBNjg.cQ.xl5PXlFZlCBHwBUWjxTvlM0G2dE11A4cBZ RD1gEkllUIjxiBSxHIUYZFDlvtHUJZONgS3lvoHliQhCyHAxKBUlaFUQfKHd ZTuSSA6yB2OWNGDQfdAiKMmhOmPWslx4Azyi92nahreiFWbohKY1M3bUesrh tJlVRjRyCkJtK8bcWmYkB6AsSkgaXRGwdBHytcRYVxSSdB6qGkORibiydFW6 He7ZD1ceWEt_APQ92BnOdHJNKA7FYL.8YgXlae24comTYT17Itwqg5R.zPqq y3irQ8eQAZQBzGv40L97WonLhDDirPGMsexq5FUT.Jvp3.RoE7J2v0udiiFp YBQ2sycevqXtnxdirIztNsFU71Kr1Or8CyT1I34zKc347twAfaN0wm_SwffH .3sjo5_0_ET9ejbxD4BXbUo3Dlbp.KcIWrsN1REmSWlmbpCf.QkrXqe.WnAo v1PxHxd3vAlXJj.Tywcx8r15lPO.ArVc5d0cMRsqUTXpPJoi3Q2DruS25.PM GeCjgj3o7S6Yb5sigGnMVQJKB_FCgPOlwNuN3bG3vguu9TSCQ8g4R_9FRcdF GAXAHtyY7a87_5dbAJ5EhZhe1A7yyWLmUFxA5 Received: from [98.25.29.86] by web162002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 06:12:23 PST VGhhdCBpcyBzdHVubmluZy4uLi4gCgoKwqAKRWR3YXJkIFBlcmV6ClN1bW1lcnZpbGxlLCBTQwo3OCBNaWRnZXQgKDEyNzUpCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuZmxpY2tyLmNvbS9waG90b3MvbGJjX25ld2JpZS8KCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogImNvcnZhbGxpc0BwZW9wbGVwYy5jb20iIDxjb3J2YWxsaXNAcGVvcGxlcGMuY29tPgpUbzogc3ByaWRnZXRzQGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0IApTZW50OiBTYXR1cmRheSwgRmVicnVhcnkgMjMsIDIwMTMgNjo1MyBBTQpTdWJqZWN0OiBbU3ABMAEBAQE- References: <86D76166284047FEB51C4C4C7CF8AD7D@spider> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 06:12:23 -0800 (PST) From: Edward Perez To: "corvallis@peoplepc.com" , "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] for the person that has 'almost' enough cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net That is stunning.... Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: "corvallis@peoplepc.com" To: spridgets@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 6:53 AM Subject: [Spridgets] for the person that has 'almost' enough cars http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem &item=290868569433 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 23 14:22:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C3540445 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:22:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA6B4043C for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 14:22:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3oq81l0080EZKEL53xFPei; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 21:15:23 +0000 Received: from blackbox2 ([69.253.143.59]) by omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3xFN1l00n1H6MAV3MxFPkA; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 21:15:23 +0000 From: "Dean Hedin" To: , References: <3577213.8498842.1361556129681.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> <945391622.8499150.1361556144404.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:15:10 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4RJtT7xroIZDP+S36wOe+mL9H8dAA4/OvA s=q20121106; t=1361654123; bh=Ozhjsszp6/FUSjvIJMN80IV7EiCddS3k1Xis3/n1hxM=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=XIyJdo55tFnuDLkhLmV4DcuFXcReT51j4wkaFyZrXoWXKuBPHIwsplgYLpngL6A7s gKFdD0s05LOuRgEAC3zEvgp1QIFTwg4uNrQsgQjwtXn7+pAzZi4KgYsViXdKUxBP3P +pfGtL6Y7vZd4b93LTPv+j15v2/SBUgtxfM/YDd0WJjk7r/n/MCylqGW39bFQbm3AJ lqdW205o1rfgy9GwNSzVZQT0A9EevsY4NguXUtu5dm4P5W4y9XeiP4Y4eF1nxifkKn 1k0aFWpwLV71jU4cDFNhF7u2F371cynkBslj6q8qFwZ2tBGL+BdjuKjD2QTPwAliYQ t7SEc8ZmmUZPg== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 5 speed oil change Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Use Redline MT-90 in the 5 speed. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of cmlove@knology.net Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 1:02 PM To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] 5 speed oil change I lurk mostly but was wondering if someone could help me with this. Of those that have the 5 speed tranny. How do you get the oil into the tranny? Monty Love ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlh2001@comcast.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 23 15:29:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094884052D for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 15:29:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mailbag.wi.net (mailbag.wi.net [209.225.111.206]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E2F94052C for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 15:24:49 -0700 (MST) Received: from 174-157-101-120.pools.spcsdns.net ([174.157.101.120] helo=[192.168.1.102]) by mailbag.wi.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1U9NPr-0001b5-RC for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:18:00 -0600 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:17:55 -0600 From: dwoerpel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <86D76166284047FEB51C4C4C7CF8AD7D@spider> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] for the person that has 'almost' enough cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I've seen this car! Why would one start the bid at $200!! Furthermore, why is it on eBay??? .....unless this isn't the real deal? Curious Cheesehead On 2/23/2013 5:53 AM, corvallis@peoplepc.com wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem > > &item=290868569433 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 23 16:30:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2E2C40445 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:30:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm29.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm29.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.188]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3080B4003E for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 16:30:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.148] by nm29.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2013 23:23:20 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.199] by tm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2013 23:23:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Feb 2013 23:23:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 22512 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Feb 2013 23:23:20 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361661800; bh=8EmxycKc/fJsBX9vez7qkK+J8+b1jx4zDIdccMdoAgA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6WuHu3xmuTXE9xyBcmNiaFRDWSvgn0rbdTg3/ln5YdC8vV8sayT40JUsOieOxtWqMu+pVaYxqJDJmIZghx9ux9kccxBwpNSlTAd6Mz33LXAZgdwU3OSUTBsEr0JKPX3xzTONLKlhJ1p7/De4VQs2IX0JUvZ+apyNT1FzLHDFreQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fMAk8ym2KVlWV3eylvNWaEkAHXzgd2KsF7NJINAeviUpyTMXL6smq26BEv4hXfdHIboWZEL+StfXR0+uaMr9I38Db9Q+lcGIiFBNkckGwMBxSt2+Q50bIdZfAzlVq2HVdWa8CCcknhvyHh0zNfAuVaQwylsQlpzetq7546gUmQw=; PuWZk8Q5NHXlr.4bVGyPThS5MMmH02VFvCgvwLpxYaIDyprOccybhx7Qi8we LPL5E.xyRxxPpgy6iS1TrFMaDZN4SE8thwquJsivm8LOsQu4c7LFyOGAZBds Bb.n9taUy59axOYu0En7JTKij2KpC46q1ER41l2qNyHAOxihdapVkdJNrJON eUp5HlYaFEivnMLoDiYOE0jTfVjQ1SacQi1RrFAUrLUlq1M3_PThS0e8b9Un ZEAL.vuXxhRzAphG8xzVRI2rf..5yWUP5Wql9WPVxNBvxjJ1.JeguVabwFM1 _CHt8levqpums00KXk_WtzjgDnuTWwAH_Ytc0N54ktGzxOqAHAZ37LokEH8q wEJTnhJNCN08u2CntoiCuNL.yqbSlsbiI5e2hwu0xTS1.6tLoIH.9ZOMb0bM bzHXRvtJ7lNqDHkGvLcWP25dO9PPExysgEaoaOXiv8OVAQESqvad3idOfxXr w1xulJPj7mjc4dtQTL8PpAk0tmNh54h2vp.VOIu2MC.G3b4XX4A7Y57BPQzg krnF1WiY.gW6IyQV2DBbDlI.HGcKfmlPCGn_6OiDLEJ_bkWvh401CAu2jrI4 6mlfcFWaQECyZ_qasRH.8wbHshyVW6sE- Received: from [68.194.16.194] by web141401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 15:23:20 PST V29uZGVyZWQgdGhlIHNhbWUsIERhdmUuIFNlZW1zIGxpa2Ugc29tZXRoaW5nIHRoYXQgc2hvdWxkIHJvbGwgYWNyb3NzIGEgaGlnaC1kb2xsYXIgYXVjdGlvbiBzdGFnZSwgb3Igc2ltcGx5IHB1dCB0aGUgd29yZCBvdXQgYW1vbmcgYWZmbHVlbnQgc3BvcnR5LWNhciBmb2xrcyB0aGF0IGl0IGlzIGF2YWlsYWJsZSBmb3IgcHVyY2hhc2UuIE1heWJlIEknbSB3cm9uZywgYnV0IEkgZG9uJ3QgdGhpbmsgZUJheSBpcyB0aGUgcHJvcGVyIHBsYWNlIGZvciBoaXN0b3JpY2FsIHJhcmUgY2Fycy4gTWF5YmUgSSdtIHcBMAEBAQE- References: <86D76166284047FEB51C4C4C7CF8AD7D@spider> <51294013.2080803@wi.net> Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 15:23:20 -0800 (PST) From: David Booker To: dwoerpel , "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] for the person that has 'almost' enough cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wondered the same, Dave. Seems like something that should roll across a high-dollar auction stage, or simply put the word out among affluent sporty-car folks that it is available for purchase. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think eBay is the proper place for historical rare cars. Maybe I'm wrong there, but that's the just my impression of the kind of car that does well there. Maybe through Hemmings? A sign in the window in the parking lot at Pebble Beach? - David Booker ________________________________ From: dwoerpel To: spridgets@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 5:17 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] for the person that has 'almost' enough cars I've seen this car! Why would one start the bid at $200!! Furthermore, why is it on eBay??? .....unless this isn't the real deal? Curious Cheesehead On 2/23/2013 5:53 AM, corvallis@peoplepc.com wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem > > &item=290868569433 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Feb 23 18:00:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA0940441 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 18:00:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 06C1F40355 for ; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:57:23 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 28275 invoked by uid 0); 24 Feb 2013 00:50:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by cpoproxy3.bluehost.com with SMTP; 24 Feb 2013 00:50:34 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=ckU+j4GByV4WFTtTgnat9NkkC9RTIN4YWGCkpBNUdIU=; b=X+L5kO5lfVWMdLRLiaarVmAJ0lHi7JOXbxddNQK0x7HhtNwTb0lZqP6SwZDK8VOIWwYTf3qS6jDhIi4g7uf0yT6LAOeFSYgOnnOlzWdJhRxtV5SM6GkR2MW4B1fszD2F; Received: from [24.15.13.164] (port=37405 helo=[192.168.0.106]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U9PnV-0005UQ-VM for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sat, 23 Feb 2013 17:50:34 -0700 Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 18:50:35 -0600 From: "\" Just Brits \" Shop" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <86D76166284047FEB51C4C4C7CF8AD7D@spider> <51294013.2080803@wi.net> {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with sales@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Spridgets] for the person that has 'almost' enough cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net << On 2/23/2013 4:17 PM, dwoerpel wrote: I've seen this car! >> I'd almost bet good money I know where, Dave ? ! ? << Why would one start the bid at $200!! >> Ya could 'start' at $ 0.01 as long as Reserve is $ 2,500,000.00 ! ! << Furthermore, why is it on eBay??? >> "toe in the water" with out taking SERIOUS 'chance' at B-J ? ? ? << .....unless this isn't the real deal? >> Guess "time will tell" ? ! ? Or "money talks and BULL SH*T walks" ? ? ? ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Feb 24 22:14:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C39640453 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:14:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.55.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C056B40066 for ; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:13:50 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 24626 invoked by uid 0); 25 Feb 2013 05:06:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 25 Feb 2013 05:06:49 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:CC:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=rLKmUW9DQ5Gv1XOfg+uCyYH7IkSmKu1eBbXysKmRH4Q=; b=CSF9ygiv6YQwM6azz2cH+E1izTsqkmd8gIESOf6iJPeZgJIQgmzObmg/ub7TgQy0BJ2u7ukDalDmTq9fGVSti5JgeW4vjM0QQOB0x5JrcUVacHFyLltFZhBU4nekPNtJ; Received: from [24.15.13.164] (port=36261 helo=[192.168.0.106]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1U9qH3-0007JN-Li for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sun, 24 Feb 2013 22:06:49 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 21:43:27 -0600 From: "\" Just Brits \" Shop" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 CC: "spridgets@autox.team.net" References: <3577213.8498842.1361556129681.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> <945391622.8499150.1361556144404.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> <946316543.20130222162013@pacifier.com> {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with sales@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 5 speed oil change Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net << On 2/22/2013 6:20 PM, Bill L wrote: ... and pump it up into the side plug. >> I'm curious Bill, how much oil does the plug hold ? ? ? ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 26 11:10:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D7D40528 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 11:10:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm2-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.127]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9BDE740431 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 11:09:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.147] by nm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2013 18:02:55 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.219] by tm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2013 18:02:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2013 18:02:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 26285 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Feb 2013 18:02:55 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361901775; bh=rVbNteHlTf/bIajUMxcyRFkCWuyjxvLF4Fzk9e2I/Ig=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oneIMUjRT0WRhVloucDtU0P3HVNVemoyFwsDDsbQcu/aroegkfuNoe47PttElxEDwzxzxgxmWTiZXI/vdWmjEsVrrHCCsfJQG6oMjR9wHg7ehRO35QoRkNaPvHJSrAHJtoR5aifF8E7VH6NFUbA5SF7IZAoJXYDgRpzHne7NIXc= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WDoyEQTQkrSj6ACiqNRzwJb7owm7SReXeNbyEC7T5UvAd8xuu+ir4DB5j0MMeSveTVPg9k4pn7GgWTw+gCh4kKsyICmdWDtZlBvep3zXUJXUIY8aPb/EWsTaSlQAdQ0i+8OmkNebkXducae8+fnUN1ShtQX7H+k60KWiRosQAzc=; TjpaQZQzKnGiufMZOQaPQss9k6S6tUF0sXsILG5UdlnbhPE2nglgsWinUUl_ TH9YSpEmf5rol3RUHD7vFhCVCktgrxFdxvZYvEPH_4oyjrIX0_3KTWnSRJ.o Intvi8rbHNPrjsjJELigbfuEPL67Z6k9hX52.EuIFpbAgKNKnw0QaYCM4CgF OC7unychgfUoJ3ItM80C.4AfiDV_QHiiPHBCEg13sf_38UDUiOoLlqlpK9Ln eNUXavEqXW3X3Cyfm_UX4P_8m1xCoY4IKluqr_Ngg2LRfIcTP3DM72JxHS0t EJT3l.m2csSwc4DJtxSB_pDp4wUSE3lSbAiaUBRHuRu6RYMzSOYfg6Mr4eby VS6aibHfP3X4CjW0CxvvYPFwFrRZeuj9QiawhcKwuW__z6Lw4rirPnVDs1V5 4gdk6EyoeC3HopDKEgyGvg.UdKwielAQkkFmATmCMYbEVzVltoByseCHCx5z SpiNiAd1edJ.H43ujxRYT4aBNJHsTtnbynVIzfLnLPc4KJtjRvmJ_0dFNR3s qQOHcL4IWeMWYw_0- Received: from [130.76.96.150] by web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 10:02:55 PST RHVlIHRvIG15IHdpZmUgYW5kIEkgYmVpbmcgIldlYWx0aHkiIGJ5IHRoaXMgYWRtaW5pc3RyYXRpb24ncyBzdGFuZGFyZHMsIHdlIGFyZSBiZWluZyBhc2tlZCB0byBwYXkgb3V0cmFnZW91cyB0YXhlcyB0aGlzIHllYXIuwqAgU28gbXVjaCBzb8KgIHRoYXQgSSdtIHNhZCB0byBzYXkgSSBtdXN0IHBhcnQgd2l0aCBteSBNaWRnZXQgaW4gb3JkZXIgdG8gcGF5IGZvciBhbGwgdGhlIGZyZWUgY2VsbCBwaG9uZXMgaGFuZGVkIG91dCBieSBvdXIgUE9UVVMuwqAgSSdtIGdvaW5nIHRvIGRvIHNvbWUgZmluZSB0dW4BMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 10:02:55 -0800 (PST) From: Edward Perez To: 4- Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] End of the road Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Due to my wife and I being "Wealthy" by this administration's standards, we are being asked to pay outrageous taxes this year. So much so that I'm sad to say I must part with my Midget in order to pay for all the free cell phones handed out by our POTUS. I'm going to do some fine tuning and a little "spirited" driving before listing it, but it really has to go. Hopefully, down the road, I'll find another MG sitting in a barn looking for restoration. You never know. Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 26 11:19:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFFDA4053C for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 11:19:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtprelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0233.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.233]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FA14042A for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 11:19:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay08.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 1913F23427E for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:12:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.109] (host216-187.lsdepts.ucsb.edu [128.111.216.187]) (Authenticated sender: mikey@rambour.com) by omf04.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:12:28 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 10:12:27 -0800 From: Mike Rambour User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120827 Thunderbird/15.0 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <1361901775.5490.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] End of the road Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net ok, I am really opening up a can of worms here... I am sorry that you "have" to sell your car but what happened to the money you made ? you don't pay taxes on imaginary money, you pay taxes on money you actually earned, so what happened to it ? Because you did not save enough is not a reason to sell the car for the reasons you stated, you simply did not save enough. Only the government deals with imaginary money, we deal in hard currency and can easily do the math. And before anyone rips me (which I know they will), I am so against our current POTUS and our tax system its not funny and especially our welfare system for both non-workers and foreign countries, but I make money and I save off money for the taxes, some of it is removed from my paycheck automatically and I save off the rest to make it 40% of what I made to pay my taxes, sometimes it works out to less then 40% and I go on vacations, sometimes I give it all up but the point is I saved for it, we all know exactly (or at least can know if we do the math) what we will pay at the end of the year based on our income. mike On 02/26/2013 10:02 AM, Edward Perez wrote: > Due to my wife and I being "Wealthy" by this administration's standards, we > are being asked to pay outrageous taxes this year. So much so that I'm sad > to say I must part with my Midget in order to pay for all the free cell phones > handed out by our POTUS. I'm going to do some fine tuning and a little > "spirited" driving before listing it, but it really has to go. Hopefully, > down the road, I'll find another MG sitting in a barn looking for > restoration. You never know. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 26 11:35:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8924053A for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 11:35:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFDF403EA for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 11:35:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 50bW1l0090S2fkCAC6UkQy; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:28:44 +0000 Received: from [10.1.10.187] ([75.151.210.78]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 56Ui1l00a1i2L2K8V6UjYZ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:28:43 +0000 From: Lester Ewing Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:28:42 -0600 References: <1361901775.5490.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <512CFB0B.5070105@dinospider.com> To: Mailing List Spridgets s=q20121106; t=1361903324; bh=2DidTxgeakmubSzVlfThEBXUnG9t8dvMXRd0TS+w440=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=rN27rJS29OQDOVyORyFxMBEYIY9Db/Rk78bAcJhtAXgVM/fW1+72hSk+Dppgatd9R Whu+RGjJVQerRmZC46loVkFXNZjzpWd4y3ugnEdl2YbqZovlglD6L8SFNeYGC6kSzK +IexzAT8B2GXNOFDFcKNoBV9Qwa75J8IwYpFnD0PuqD76A3FTWUa4zHBn1vpWquae9 yvIyTwrcHE8ORD9eigP+FLBCYM+88Wsg8kfsn78ASX5h9PGzS1Z0JMCEaCOkRuwXnH 0Kf8s5S6d6vI9j9T26RgBHI/RhNfZAO4xt/SbizjIgUynjrRAXa4nO2Kx3tm07LFFe fV5olS8VnLdww== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] End of the road Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net yeah but I wanna buy cool stuff! I don't wanna save money.. don't make me do it.. I mean maybe I could buy a Ferrari! .. or a Dino at least.. ;-) Lester .. Did I tell you about the large Ultrasonic cleaner I picked up 2 weeks ago?? On Feb 26, 2013, at 12:12 27PM, Mike Rambour wrote: > ok, I am really opening up a can of worms here... > > I am sorry that you "have" to sell your car but what happened to the money you made ? you don't pay taxes on imaginary money, you pay taxes on money you actually earned, so what happened to it ? Because you did not save enough is not a reason to sell the car for the reasons you stated, you simply did not save enough. > > Only the government deals with imaginary money, we deal in hard currency and can easily do the math. > > And before anyone rips me (which I know they will), I am so against our current POTUS and our tax system its not funny and especially our welfare system for both non-workers and foreign countries, but I make money and I save off money for the taxes, some of it is removed from my paycheck automatically and I save off the rest to make it 40% of what I made to pay my taxes, sometimes it works out to less then 40% and I go on vacations, sometimes I give it all up but the point is I saved for it, we all know exactly (or at least can know if we do the math) what we will pay at the end of the year based on our income. > > mike > > On 02/26/2013 10:02 AM, Edward Perez wrote: >> Due to my wife and I being "Wealthy" by this administration's standards, we >> are being asked to pay outrageous taxes this year. So much so that I'm sad >> to say I must part with my Midget in order to pay for all the free cell phones >> handed out by our POTUS. I'm going to do some fine tuning and a little >> "spirited" driving before listing it, but it really has to go. Hopefully, >> down the road, I'll find another MG sitting in a barn looking for >> restoration. You never know. > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy@comcast.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 26 12:18:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5FF540534 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:18:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id AEDC14042A for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 12:16:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.148] by nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2013 19:09:07 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.197] by tm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2013 19:09:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2013 19:09:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 65081 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Feb 2013 19:09:07 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361905747; bh=o7TJhk8wtj4ouYUhLQTlwg0r6XLiSdZnPiugn7Ir13E=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JwHo4dxUsZrjZpJsFzfxnuSIp2c5sxPR9O+UzW44gQ4VRuiCe6soiDv0w5i/pZsxUUjK6/Qq2whHS+AbmRFo8tBXzA3cPNbzC63XJEFwqip4RZDVpadNR117DvKZBAXNA+3Fca5IKgUrUDDmSdct4S3oyQdRKhroA3kBaOAWAg8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qM1+maPkL5Ch+q00tHklK/vhNw5OOl90IbiX/HBDaRcN6Nj9jZ5jF54T9LCY/WvNoM/2Mzg7xXuQhvDwuGLOwCPXvMmOosf8fR1IRKy6B3MBjBMSvjHbrp0+MQ4cnIgo1QSjGfj6JhX3JUlT2bEHxYFB6oQcLNC64JQXo1tkLuY=; 8KdZEq7GucaU_d0GXJPREemmE.dwBvVz_SHthkq93Lhzl0rVbIqBvPcdcFIC dQkC9J8vPFVOTRxyqjDaCPmt6ESoILhoXQMhkHpcQ9H0I1JQ.B1UKq.0HFze deP.5F3WHjvxSdUjAalm2iu4QEsW0kufckQbiWpcdCLvFBKiHrFPiXpGSbmT M.unabWAQmTY91N_YAt8T0qfaORpgYkswLh51_i.jTCGlIksWr3AwKen5VhI 54vXZn8zXxwjVjOJ56e88vGeNIm27ChJV.JpwhvATMP.yXZxJvKDk.GSw9xY QF7i4p4QoxZFnB6qo23us7KspDt5fjbzQ4HFrNC3mEtqbudm3SzabXOPhT2o 1AA6VJaHhli4bRYgfQD5yhh04w_E.y9jmBCVJEoPmMKb7O.pl9mr3qw.CB4F yq8Ccz8zwbPbAQbkE978fSo.NDUO.8HNC.ELYQRUnqxRB2NVr6Xet2M3eX2p uTkeJ68.YE4zDg6omnWo1enXVXl6JKJwI1.JSoKPKz.H2mzjHyJfrfK1vB2v rBHlR.QZe1toCs_qyikuXxIf6EA4fUilg52djh_OdPAFJiM19sGUNY2rGVjj 9yynTxPaDpy0RuNaQNHfog4YI Received: from [130.76.96.150] by web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 11:09:07 PST SSBkb24ndCByZWFsbHkgY2FyZSB0byBnbyBpbnRvIHRoZSBkZXRhaWxzIG9mIGl0IGFsbC7CoCBMZXQncyBzYXkgYnkgbW92aW5nIHVwIG9uZSB0YXggYnJhY2tldCwgaXQgbWFkZSBsaWZlIHZlcnkgcGFpbmZ1bC4KCgrCoApFZHdhcmQgUGVyZXoKU3VtbWVydmlsbGUsIFNDCjc4IE1pZGdldCAoMTI3NSkKaHR0cDovL3d3dy5mbGlja3IuY29tL3Bob3Rvcy9sYmNfbmV3YmllLwoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCiBGcm9tOiBMZXN0ZXIgRXdpbmcgPG9sZHNhYWJndXlAY29tY2FzdC4BMAEBAQE- References: <1361901775.5490.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <512CFB0B.5070105@dinospider.com> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 11:09:07 -0800 (PST) From: Edward Perez To: Lester Ewing , Mailing List Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] End of the road Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I don't really care to go into the details of it all. Let's say by moving up one tax bracket, it made life very painful. Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ To: Mailing List Spridgets Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] End of the road yeah but I wanna buy cool stuff! I don't wanna save money.. don't make me do it.. I mean maybe I could buy a Ferrari! .. or a Dino at least.. ;-) Lester .. Did I tell you about the large Ultrasonic cleaner I picked up 2 weeks ago?? On Feb 26, 2013, at 12:12 27PM, Mike Rambour wrote: > ok, I am really opening up a can of worms here... > > I am sorry that you "have" to sell your car but what happened to the money you made ? you don't pay taxes on imaginary money, you pay taxes on money you actually earned, so what happened to it ? Because you did not save enough is not a reason to sell the car for the reasons you stated, you simply did not save enough. > > Only the government deals with imaginary money, we deal in hard currency and can easily do the math. > > And before anyone rips me (which I know they will), I am so against our current POTUS and our tax system its not funny and especially our welfare system for both non-workers and foreign countries, but I make money and I save off money for the taxes, some of it is removed from my paycheck automatically and I save off the rest to make it 40% of what I made to pay my taxes, sometimes it works out to less then 40% and I go on vacations, sometimes I give it all up but the point is I saved for it, we all know exactly (or at least can know if we do the math) what we will pay at the end of the year based on our income. > > mike > > On 02/26/2013 10:02 AM, Edward Perez wrote: >> Due to my wife and I being "Wealthy" by this administration's standards, we >> are being asked to pay outrageous taxes this year. So much so that I'm sad >> to say I must part with my Midget in order to pay for all the free cell phones >> handed out by our POTUS. I'm going to do some fine tuning and a little >> "spirited" driving before listing it, but it really has to go. Hopefully, >> down the road, I'll find another MG sitting in a barn looking for >> restoration. You never know. > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy@comcast.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 26 14:06:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8280A4052E for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:06:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com [208.47.184.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F24264043F for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:06:09 -0700 (MST) c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1361912346; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=prYzc3BIRnlFV+T2WoGdWV+W9ao=; b=aLogtnte5kVF6fMLwuv5MZjY8ZkniN8MRrgSSwy2XSFxg9a57w/6F5CowYvnPV3R gU36BCei25jIfx6SjC0yCU5EnDu9afg/OYaa7WwZTca2UyusJMyN+uoxUD3TrQKz; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=bb3nrEUsD0FFmVcg2Yj0Sg==:17 a=IbIwSOdhHHMA:10 a=1poGYrevpj8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=lejpBRLbk3cA:10 a=xFYBVpC4QfiTqS4s5cAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=bb3nrEUsD0FFmVcg2Yj0Sg==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=lbcs; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [67.236.133.175] ([67.236.133.175:60102] helo=BillMiller) by mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES128-SHA) id 38/A5-12175-9122D215; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:59:06 -0500 From: "Bill Miller - LBCs" To: "'Mailing List Spridgets'" References: <1361901775.5490.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <512CFB0B.5070105@dinospider.com> <1361905747.47363.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:59:14 -0500 Thread-Index: AQIgBFP6mbGufptKNqz805+iNjYGrQFo+BX4AXg35XUB6yox35fCXAIQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Spridgets] End of the road Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net No explanations are necessary. . . Best of luck. -----Original Message----- I don't really care to go into the details of it all. Let's say by moving up one tax bracket, it made life very painful. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 26 14:50:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CE640536 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:50:47 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from brantnet.kwic.com (brantnet.kwic.com [205.150.58.224]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EFEF4043F for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 14:50:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (adsl-64-136-125-144.kwic.com [64.136.125.144]) by brantnet.kwic.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r1QLhRLO028557 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:43:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ridleymj@brant.net) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:43:35 -0500 From: Martyn Ridley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] END OF THE ROAD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sell the wife, keep the car. Seriously: Paying taxes is a PRIVILEGE, if you don't want to pay them, leave. I am sure there is somebody out there who would be pleased to come to your country to have that privilege. I live in Canada, " nuf" said. Cheers, Martyn ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 26 16:42:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0F840526 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:42:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm35-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm35-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.238.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B44440424 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:42:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.152] by nm35.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2013 23:35:11 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.231] by tm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2013 23:35:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1040.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Feb 2013 23:35:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 70462 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Feb 2013 23:35:10 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361921710; bh=BhhxZAX7pody8LIY8RRhkpNz+W1KYNQGE6/9QMg06qE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TzOcZqN4xSkyb+pAcO/BuSGtkXA9GwrqFcQqjcR2dqLO+C0OKSwPF4iQhfsfXpJ8l1Sl7SKmCwLIyLG/5kujpG115mYs2dCTAAGxXwCNdWSlM2mRD9t/xtNTl60tAV6OB4yb32VaxmW2anL7lpbUDhZVFUC6/j14FeppX9pTvVs= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dih2VZMIW1ea5LziD+pglHyTh34AiDMmRrU8Ou9Ja3U0eb6pv4KBWlZNeX69Q4Eu8fACTMeMW7YQovuapWuAt/7p5tSrtdiqwncHjgX7fJPX9mcHiSnj2FTHOrHrFfEnXHSUyhetWK6D64nVIodFyYOSEfzBcvhfsaxsjSbR1k8=; 79f.sN9Tlv6hnjVpEdfVrQbWIJzqak_QfOaAjb73Xjn.ou2aBtoZDQqQMc9w 44L.o8CtW0NjgfvR0Cdrl524BLiqeJTtmAIae1N7s9w5uLWMBorUfsmiV9Ur 0l60R2ynTgG8Tr.Pgzb7356w14JRVMYVbGidxiCMkx2FVxCVsgC1_bTZkDa5 5Zr4zmEdeWYApyCobY0dWntQztbBWBV94Fx.j3IEl8T_w4x2rVgY85VfK5.K iAvXQ3DFhSUHu9nmho5.GwBUaQmQ4Ftr_PzpTongx5xFPKUkMxp4fmzJEk5y l1_pZ8oXeZ8fDF2AXHjrXteT28uQoC4f2WwwX2AIOIA0RZLlI5NJmuIfj6zO 9pWyXPkbFxFajad2PMW_DbB2X3PvezdFSOdGXudMjpwuncqTm_lOVqBvC.SI ORGcR9Q1.YBxTgm3_xPEmyB0pifJ9nsfde099oMbPSiT4v3dlm.5oJhyqsyR s_MSBKd5.g5J8hAN8O4FTdMaJUGhUoVnKiaVLIfnbKGFhmVSE3u2KPHNAt7i IyALTo59qvBfCFUY4v1sdSML4xxZnq3SJv51YFZsJ9U35pgafBx8Yph7QzHy iYHWy0QjURXmauNpTe50Vhw-- Received: from [98.25.29.86] by web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:35:10 PST SSd2ZSBhbHdheXMgcGFpZCBteSB0YXhlcyBhbmQgYXBwcmVjaWF0ZSB0aGUgY291bnRyeSBJIGxpdmUgaW4gYW5kIHRoZSBvcHBvcnR1bml0aWVzIEkndmUgYmVlbiBnaXZlbi7CoCBXVEYgaXMgdXAgd2l0aCBhbGwgdGhlIG9mZmVuc2l2ZSBjb21tZW50cyBoZXJlPyE_IQoKCsKgCkVkd2FyZCBQZXJlegpTdW1tZXJ2aWxsZSwgU0MKNzggTWlkZ2V0ICgxMjc1KQpodHRwOi8vd3d3LmZsaWNrci5jb20vcGhvdG9zL2xiY19uZXdiaWUvCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIEZyb206IE0BMAEBAQE- References: <512D2C87.8000505@brant.net> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 15:35:10 -0800 (PST) From: Edward Perez To: Martyn Ridley , "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] END OF THE ROAD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I've always paid my taxes and appreciate the country I live in and the opportunities I've been given. WTF is up with all the offensive comments here?!?! Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: Martyn Ridley To: spridgets@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 4:43 PM Subject: [Spridgets] END OF THE ROAD Sell the wife, keep the car. Seriously: Paying taxes is a PRIVILEGE, if you don't want to pay them, leave. I am sure there is somebody out there who would be pleased to come to your country to have that privilege. I live in Canada, " nuf" said. Cheers, Martyn ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 26 17:22:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE9ED40544 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:22:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7EB704051F for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:20:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2013 00:13:07 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.201] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2013 00:13:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2013 00:13:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 18110 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Feb 2013 00:13:07 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361923987; bh=HmlFl2HVwmygjIUSzyX7dhWE790k0g6J2+8AY2BQZ1I=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xFBJb1XDCwy82TPSJGhKSEXnJYRqk9zRBACVsnKl7sgXUAZq+fidO9UGE4ZZkO66nHQlQPKShaAeeFe3+0kvZqB5T1K3WvFwKuWjrhYjy8wWcWDntbnIFxPsmOHOtzcGQq3P62PLjBeUUEp2Oa5MVQKuy1PBcFDxTy+SQGsOnas= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Sy1e+GuoblfLaofuIEVvyQ0jD180AQxIjyFbBsDX2Vo74wuwLZ+APTa+b47MzdgWUK5QweaR4W49WoaIu6879XOT9XLzDl8DbmWs+QB9z2b2eaLXHe++UDyJFoo+h0VRPiJrRdiKkUv/qCt8GOp0RY8wtmQvkrF+S5TPwzG/YJ0=; Oi1qdtgsYC3VT4Zdt5AQa1x9_VxCfbn0H92VUuQQqhd1pLebkb3..L7p4MK3 FCsaxc6zKChSoWZtN2SLkYk9ANb07cab.MK315DyYfyngwsCJZFQb8sbJSxd zrWlsDYsmTlwGcXLNQha13hR1HHiN126NJF9Cydhry8AOwz4avbvveB1cEgZ CUYxz7ivmWNemDrqMSkKXjb6dRYTq0fK9dVmplfGst81n_XMIx8beI9XRVXd IoZc0hkGfQ_ko_RFvbhoq2mXpKgfK_iHN9teWsG4jNlzN7A9BjLjLtLI6f3. 5aLaOe_O56MqK1eE4XVNPR9xfMUPXDWBXrOUL2EDmf4g2oG3DtRDYdo4wy2G mibxPeBKm0IJmzUQywfwq8gYFn0gx3J4FgNmRW3PDYzypoSRUO_NQtekIyg0 7KWOPFSC.KOyDx9ZgDfmcGfp4HqW4ZzD5ALbN8rzRukHWprPy3imdNIyo0JG SXHXNk73L0Fn2ZUQXYBbeVAH6gCan7LR60XuceueKJywSc_WQArRHCahuwXN ht30dZeSWajCzW2ompbA5u0b4ZYlhPDKpQZsaohoIYnrJ_a4KWzqARFQyaY_ SUz.jwdA3aaSqSh1_JfSrU10- Received: from [98.25.29.86] by web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:13:07 PST SSBkb24ndCBrbm93IHlvdS7CoCBOZXZlciBoZWFyZCBvZiB5b3Ugb24gdGhpcyBmb3J1bS7CoCBZb3UgZG9uJ3Qga25vdyBtZS7CoCBEbyB1cyBhbGwgYSBmYXZvciBhbmQga2VlcCB5b3VyIG9waW5pb25zIGFuZCB5b3Vyc2VsZiBpbiBDYW5hZGEuCgoKwqAKRWR3YXJkIFBlcmV6ClN1bW1lcnZpbGxlLCBTQwo3OCBNaWRnZXQgKDEyNzUpCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuZmxpY2tyLmNvbS9waG90b3MvbGJjX25ld2JpZS8KCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogTWFydHluIFJpZGxleSABMAEBAQE- References: <512D2C87.8000505@brant.net> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:13:07 -0800 (PST) From: Edward Perez To: Martyn Ridley , "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] END OF THE ROAD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know you. Never heard of you on this forum. You don't know me. Do us all a favor and keep your opinions and yourself in Canada. Edward Perez Summerville, SC 78 Midget (1275) http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ ________________________________ From: Martyn Ridley To: spridgets@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 4:43 PM Subject: [Spridgets] END OF THE ROAD Sell the wife, keep the car. Seriously: Paying taxes is a PRIVILEGE, if you don't want to pay them, leave. I am sure there is somebody out there who would be pleased to come to your country to have that privilege. I live in Canada, " nuf" said. Cheers, Martyn ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 26 17:24:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B181240541 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:24:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B454051E for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:24:44 -0700 (MST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=adsCCq7yfmyRcctzEXAVm2EI1iVF0fW5rbVY4i3tmJppzm5dPd2LejDpbqOix1NX; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [128.95.226.232] (helo=richball) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1UAUiK-0004Yd-E0; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 19:17:40 -0500 From: "Richard Ball" To: "Edward Perez" , "4- Spridgets" References: <1361901775.5490.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:17:45 -0800 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] End of the road Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Ed, Sorry to hear about the car. Be sure to document what you've done to it when you go to sell. You have put a lot of effort into that thing. Go take a weekend run on the Tail of the Dragon before you sell it since your in that neck of the woods now. Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward Perez" To: "4- Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 10:02 AM Subject: [Spridgets] End of the road > Due to my wife and I being "Wealthy" by this administration's standards, > we > are being asked to pay outrageous taxes this year. So much so that I'm > sad > to say I must part with my Midget in order to pay for all the free cell > phones > handed out by our POTUS. I'm going to do some fine tuning and a little > "spirited" driving before listing it, but it really has to go. Hopefully, > down the road, I'll find another MG sitting in a barn looking for > restoration. You never know. > > > > Edward Perez > Summerville, SC > 78 Midget > (1275) > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball@mindspring.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 26 17:26:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9C840553 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:26:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF3DF4051E for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:26:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.89]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 5C121l01j1vXlb855CKd8A; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 00:19:37 +0000 Received: from sz0111.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta17.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 5CKd1l00c2xV5no3dCKdzY; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 00:19:37 +0000 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 00:19:37 +0000 (UTC) From: ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net To: EasternOshitGroup (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) s=q20121106; t=1361924377; bh=GcJkXjsyHqShBozoTbkWAM0rhm67t1Ox73kvCBkYMjE=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=dCaJiXRC/jhbsaNO2cfEjvI8gWxfL+QNMxFJnzVHNoka4wAjAbaGtb9rG9v/4dO4V aYPBmKiu282AsZVggOD1YBB095kWU1PGG6gnBvfW1gypGBDkmqJinkhom3T3OlN1sQ NgCZ8Nrzscwn0S42DFeEi/Zwgh0bi9rDYaHx+Ecs30c09m77feczlLDMdwrZf7VKBt wQQQs6FT1GaBAiQFQiBa1j9bg0nraMdDdxtfVQjiUAoNWekmZUx0dQE9kVGor9Dyf1 Ef2sJtRqhKUajoDM5a9KAaPHneXJhchkvFhQLA/bqchGkUAO5cB0hVzxcnVzSjhbHC HOwKoff/VSbLw== Cc: spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Is this anyone on the list? http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/3640622119.html ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 26 17:31:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C6440549 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:31:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AA3C4051F for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:31:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130227002418.CQIH10143.mta41.charter.net@imp09>; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 19:24:18 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.114] ([75.134.176.126]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id 5CQH1l00Q2k0G5X05CQJLT; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 19:24:18 -0500 a=4qVORgQvpCJpuAOtuMCMUQ==:17 a=IbIwSOdhHHMA:10 a=7Vtkk4Wg9cEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=4ycV2vTZAAAA:8 a=lejpBRLbk3cA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=JAralIE_AAAA:8 a=7KAlNBJNAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=vwq074nzO5r4-oOtcOAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=ZvGnWCJfGGMA:10 a=OpnbjhRAqwMA:10 a=4qVORgQvpCJpuAOtuMCMUQ==:117 References: <512D2C87.8000505@brant.net> <1361921710.69641.YahooMailNeo@web162005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Rick Fisk Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 19:24:18 -0500 To: Edward Perez Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] END OF THE ROAD Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I agree Edward - don't understand the acrimony here. I've been caught out before too. Sometimes despite your best plans things change and you have to do whatever you can to catch up. Good luck. Rick Sent from my keyboard On Feb 26, 2013, at 6:35 PM, Edward Perez wrote: > I've always paid my taxes and appreciate the country I live in and the > opportunities I've been given. WTF is up with all the offensive comments > here?!?! > > > > Edward Perez > Summerville, SC > 78 Midget (1275) > http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/ > > > ________________________________ > From: Martyn Ridley > To: spridgets@autox.team.net > Sent: > Tuesday, February 26, 2013 4:43 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] END OF THE ROAD > > Sell > the wife, keep the car. > > > Seriously: Paying taxes is a PRIVILEGE, if you > don't want to pay them, leave. I am sure there is somebody out there who > would be pleased to come to your country to have that privilege. I live in > Canada, " nuf" said. > > Cheers, > Martyn > ------------------------ > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested > annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: > http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/eap2140@yahoo.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 26 17:39:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B1340538 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:39:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtp3.pacifier.net (smtp3.pacifier.net [64.255.237.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E4E4051E for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:39:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (ip117.76.dhcp-acs2.511.iinet.com [198.145.76.117]) by smtp3.pacifier.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0D8B38F09; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:32:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:32:01 -0800 From: Bill L To: Edward Perez References: <1361901775.5490.YahooMailNeo@web162001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <512CFB0B.5070105@dinospider.com> <1361905747.47363.YahooMailNeo@web162003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] End of the road Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Edward, Sorry to hear you have to sell. In the not too distant future you will be sad that you no longer have the car. See if there IS some other way...... Sound like you got hit by the A.M.T. ? You question the animosity of other's posts. YOU brought politics into the forum. We all get along a little better when we stick to Spridgets. -- Best regards, Bill L. mailto:pythias@pacifier.com '66 Sprite MKIII HAN8L49403 "the red thing" Constants aren't; variables don't. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 26 20:01:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FE534052C for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:01:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm40-vm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm40-vm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.183]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E901403A5 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:01:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.138.90.53] by nm40.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2013 02:54:19 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.62] by tm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2013 02:54:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp119-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2013 02:54:19 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361933659; bh=ZmIk1ZoWMRP26o1r13CFhJ4TjV+w1QkIiPTo3ysbQgM=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=b4fc0P/978ITquklbL9peHHnJ7soxgumS5iqs0rYaK1+pumUCweLA1q+F+rqR2xVk6ci6hDJKoUsjejC6BYw5yVkLxdTD6I0sojXbL/8tvDEpy30/JIxLM8eNOKRZ7WtLABnOJJWdgveQ8mJvf/5+n9WKRwmUKMvzISkH6KykDo= 4i4Meg1gLpxNrgSIxt3dLZd0spj8fBXfvudwqSf_i0iBzDBLsA0KfmQZRZqb QlPiQiOgYS8By7stZTlsYr7vwKNV0zShm77DzAQ6ooDXm218j8t4TVXDoH2A eLnwVCNSv5EfZq2fJfL1.hPPOMdQ2ReDWblRx2ksi9DRpqNMChRBpvtBQlx4 WZfM9eSqEaEzINguxOLjMHRlJ.PHmIdUT6MrDWcPqMQCmlKxHZxijNLfRiJJ qNF9tAGrvj3CUy42yWBz64Yk.IefscC.27XqNkc1ahcB_UnAW7U9ah68gSKl aqZpJ2tMHRi4JkUUnkDvXz2gOrFIdwETMJdhtXWhvKq_oLUJPpXeJOr476T9 zBnhvLA1hBe.NidPifMaTo38uAR.BrdW63MpHF6lI8vs3fY.wyxwSUI9qWIJ MqHblMf7q9tZzLML38vNe0t43GtgGMoQ6h5QG63Z6_l8hRhS9g0F8X0irVTm WMWTkOtamEgcldoQPKIFdpw7FbmoZRAnwX9vapyw6ZcZB41.uiErfaRwE4_p iRkPith.2z6hBfEkG Received: from [192.168.1.102] (jfishbein@64.148.20.84 with xymcookie) by smtp119-mob.biz.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Feb 2013 18:54:19 -0800 PST References: <881336948.1760204.1361924377198.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> From: Jay Fishbein Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:54:16 -0500 To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net $24,000? Jay On Feb 26, 2013, at 7:19 PM, ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net wrote: > Is this anyone on the list? > > http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/3640622119.html > ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 26 20:12:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA5F740525 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:12:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm26-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.186]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B653E403C7 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:12:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.107] by nm26.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2013 03:05:38 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.214] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2013 03:05:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp103.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2013 03:05:28 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361934328; bh=LnvH740gt1rJX3bsENw8YXCnmxkBD7nmp1ol7Bh/RZA=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=zjXYJlD2cILU6ZY92WowUpwKxsUATB13mxtlQXQM0e4kwGXhgnLYNtJva+IKfgFpOKuqTiAXtvrLye4G7S+rv8MESxe6MwTR5LW2RrtAqBUbB6r00TQapJRsJWGso6CYX2YVrB6PJUJWAD2Ml9pkqhPwnPlG7cW2k+a7Z5FNeGw= rWczQM0dUEwRX_gC4ZWPPouab89b4JN6oEjSw41pxcrdxzzMogwt9flgjB.b Ik5NF6fAs9oDyBGRpQffeoWh0G2vnbxRBjgDMmiI_BqmckkC.gR4Gi5EcKc4 CpkBqz1WhWWwPjmYppBAZz4P3pQfJx6OORjc7MVq6L.eKPwc3F2awcLC6Djj ZbgTAyO2pgQ2lKPIzK_BLISIm_1SpjQ9DNLJQqQJHlQNYNFN4NDp9GpwRFYU PlnoVtw0cANhQSyCy1RO9yxowzHO9t8ZOrcSgxT5AbCpZyxk_SJjgjoPodOW gQwepcH4TmGgXPUW1aPtQ4hZpYZYsKEDKGl9punIbR2EdPg8t00G3hO0inxR s.n06v0KCL7eTr8sk7ooyIVaocOBnEL9tyA1lX0GG_z.VWcPBkrPwC5oqlM. zQzFo3pbpMhOs6G0V71rumxxP4UBJrEHu8X4lBazTMwd0Ca8g.VsuPjcg6q_ janqfIfxC6ipeMAKeRZ6lLbkyGtEe7QRMwRYjzbxxcc5CRx5LziA0rN4SGhm SE9Ft7JEyewI5jDbZMDPfm95YwUDMs3BTtBuFCAeZZWx7J.GCpCf1Fc3fgIG AJa5m Received: from HomePC (ladaniels@99.139.205.191 with login) by smtp103.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Feb 2013 03:05:28 +0000 UTC From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Jay Fishbein" , "Spridget List" References: <881336948.1760204.1361924377198.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <35141DBA-202F-413E-BAA0-CF93C73B5C97@snet.net> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:05:23 -0600 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net No, $24,900. But you could probably get him down to $24,000. -----Original Message----- From: Jay Fishbein Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:54 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? $24,000? Jay On Feb 26, 2013, at 7:19 PM, ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net wrote: > Is this anyone on the list? > > http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/3640622119.html > ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels@sbcglobal.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 26 20:59:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3407D4052C for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:59:04 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net (txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net [208.180.40.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CAB34051E for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:52:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from leosHP ([72.47.140.225]) by txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net (InterMail vM.8.04.01.08 201-2343-100-153-20121108) with ESMTP id <20130227034319.YVNW21381.txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net@leosHP> for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:43:19 -0600 From: <60bugeye@cebridge.net> To: "Spridget List" References: <881336948.1760204.1361924377198.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><35141DBA-202F-413E-BAA0-CF93C73B5C97@snet.net> <478B98FF0A3245289D92B6A5D7973EED@HomePC> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:45:15 -0600 cv=nvd/yrl/AfBi2AQBqU20c9D/6sbg7QzXyawrlrNqrV4= c=1 sm=0 a=MrsCbxm59dQA:10 a=X6EWi9_stYMA:10 a=pVMl2t813bUA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=b4KrJKo_AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pcLIrrrKAAAA:8 a=Mf1v_7_OAAAA:8 a=Yntsww7nzBxPy4gigqoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=zsuS6wDXqTQA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=ftFGBYpk1mUA:10 a=VgdHWzi9AekA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I hate to break the news to everyone but the days of cheap bugeyes is slowly fading away... I donbt know how many of the people on here seen Iris but when I sold her I got 25K for her. It was a premium price but if I hadn't got that price she would still be in the garage as it was the least I was going to take for her. I think I could have gotten more if I had consigned with an auction house. I had a deal lined up for a 1966 BJ8 (yea I know I crossed over to the dark side) but I wanted a car more suited to long distance drives. Speaking of which I have another bugeye project that I am looking to get rid of if anyone is interested. Nice body in primer (probably the most perfect bonnet I have ever seen besides an NOS one. Lots of NOS parts and new parts along with loads of spares (basically all of the bugeye parts I had squirreled away. Has 5 NEW wire wheels, all the parts for disc conversion and wire wheel change over. The only rust in the tub is the lower parts of the A posts. contact me off list if interested Leo -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:05 PM To: Jay Fishbein ; Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? No, $24,900. But you could probably get him down to $24,000. -----Original Message----- From: Jay Fishbein Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:54 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? $24,000? Jay On Feb 26, 2013, at 7:19 PM, ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net wrote: > Is this anyone on the list? > > http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/3640622119.html > ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels@sbcglobal.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/60bugeye@cebridge.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Feb 26 21:03:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F58B40550 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:03:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm6.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm6.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3404B4051E for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:03:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.200] by nm6.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2013 03:56:37 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.213] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2013 03:56:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2013 03:56:25 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361937385; bh=J64aMnUMnQbtdtBbzWgnYg3GE5mU/uez1n7RbYZhIFU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=3I+tfMx3u6w92DXRLQr3jEJTKz/6OoPfyK7iPTO95IEOFqnkSgy58F2sJZVWxhlRLnKyUG51UkWvSGbLjtJ3uk3htXOCDnzAfwlSvaNAplLppQFhAlosnDf/GDXVZCLTeCijJIKSUkGtHQXQfoFaNZ6R48bTzUihYIoGFZa8X88= KBMSEt6ReNvE2a7DfzjcUCx6Us3b0rpttKQw_AgYcL1.NMV19wIzq4NA6NrH q2gMbWGcsVdOJxFDLhkxyY6Rign4Eb8k2KDOsPdZrQFz0eIXF6yeIjSDGt5u 9wJtDeQ6WJAfpeQ_Nj_XtfDCqcaxOIP2aOJL2W52ESpXjUqEfBJTlOksyc6E S5jkq3kRAZmMNIZ0vxwvyqeqAzFgtGkxobG3vR.dc6iXC3w3lbdYh4mCCJz. WkZ.mEvLYkrM3.XJgzkHLWblanUtQEhrzIy1qdG28KAE5GeVkZ3AeJsAziWi BwcVyUbjJUXyHzGZfegkxmOEwbUKksREvdm6ez7wyiJhYG8wtNdCAqpI7PY9 ECuIxgpGEUT0iVqWyHV2ODm4GAPHcALJEvA8OEUWAmgibQpCRjhn8JR1zHCJ HiP71347f7Kn4AtV2jgfLumOEJXYpXNyuV8Xa3E4KSJWGbA3TeYbLD8k8dZ5 iKgKsUq6DhGIJyQRAmJYjjU3tHoAjTvim6f9lvYdRukIyG5LF5AuBO1mKded ZFDADMAMkAPt0v7SlolxSgKfUhmvISvk.vvvLlvuKVU6ohd7v3JTmL_gIakF qV182 Received: from HomePC (ladaniels@99.139.205.191 with login) by smtp102.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Feb 2013 03:56:25 +0000 UTC From: "Larry Daniels" To: <60bugeye@cebridge.net>, "Spridget List" References: <881336948.1760204.1361924377198.JavaMail.root@sz0111a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><35141DBA-202F-413E-BAA0-CF93C73B5C97@snet.net><478B98FF0A3245289D92B6A5D7973EED@HomePC> <0D0AE798560846038DD10897A0F98F0B@leosHP> Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:56:20 -0600 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Leo, I have never seen Iris, but I have heard about your car. Given that, there is a difference between Iris and this car. More power to you for getting 25K, but this owner would need a gun to match that. -----Original Message----- From: 60bugeye@cebridge.net Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:45 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? I hate to break the news to everyone but the days of cheap bugeyes is slowly fading away... I donbt know how many of the people on here seen Iris but when I sold her I got 25K for her. It was a premium price but if I hadn't got that price she would still be in the garage as it was the least I was going to take for her. I think I could have gotten more if I had consigned with an auction house. I had a deal lined up for a 1966 BJ8 (yea I know I crossed over to the dark side) but I wanted a car more suited to long distance drives. Speaking of which I have another bugeye project that I am looking to get rid of if anyone is interested. Nice body in primer (probably the most perfect bonnet I have ever seen besides an NOS one. Lots of NOS parts and new parts along with loads of spares (basically all of the bugeye parts I had squirreled away. Has 5 NEW wire wheels, all the parts for disc conversion and wire wheel change over. The only rust in the tub is the lower parts of the A posts. contact me off list if interested Leo -----Original Message----- From: Larry Daniels Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 9:05 PM To: Jay Fishbein ; Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? No, $24,900. But you could probably get him down to $24,000. -----Original Message----- From: Jay Fishbein Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:54 PM To: Spridget List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Has anyone seen this? $24,000? Jay On Feb 26, 2013, at 7:19 PM, ryan.kubanoff@comcast.net wrote: > Is this anyone on the list? > > http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/3640622119.html > ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels@sbcglobal.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/60bugeye@cebridge.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels@sbcglobal.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 27 07:04:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2AED4054C for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:04:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8FB340401 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:04:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.146] by nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2013 13:57:02 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.228] by tm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2013 13:57:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1037.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2013 13:57:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 35374 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Feb 2013 13:57:02 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361973422; bh=uN/VRpFNkAUxnCn7Qjn+eOntfczV53gh39kMSF4/BUo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=j45NG82D4sX6xIJz2pHCYaGjdliLiD4OIKGabH6a3RAd7HYdymG8jpQkF2zPsgEyZ4NpPcPoHhnJfOuY3ykvd3A8pQVCOYLe1epf6FK1G1coAnpH4fRtuhT2+vYhtz/mFUqoG7zjDu2l45DggpXow5jUbfb/FhG/uUPGqjUbVJ8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VKsKRh7tQ/tx1pj73egGomKuZ0BX+nyRsjWv0L+9/tRkYyoNpCKQHYCDk4ESKdGioW6H3XaPlEZSfOMLVRYESVP+y+VWYeRbmARbZ5LOPHpbHpFneMs1YLrkuRgVUcLWIcW1AV47fETVVOVtJ42VQdUNC4Lq5IXFH1CNX8mz6SE=; dqXY2yTpVEo_rZAvVhpAEgTuSzXDwUOVHcuE9orwmYPOsoAi3u_jJz3z4wG_ L6OSx0BErud7UH973Bz6bg3quI3kkdA4x.9Qy58I.Bs9d619jOzvq_fpvaqo SS89RKIs7HNInYDoPVZq.B1Zz_nvSGyU7URoraRl0k_XKpyFeyYZ0ZdR05yZ iBlwpqM2cCPVn16TMyJiU2scJL7wiyywjJ9PeVQw0Kaan1NUUIVd4_NF3e8u knm1KOyjKpThBJ.0G3oZZo72WSQ547mMrQIJERZeGIk1DhDwc31IxYWh4r1g eOsJZhCq7myaouTkMSHdnOUbUKUKXtyq_VxjViAqtAFVJQC_AY4QYdMj6skK __k8jXVY6YKsft.HdhiVPnNEhvXmMaYGZzyeJgE0G.Dw0cTpGSPUsymn3CUY oK_axW4_HL4WhzcVzhOaudKY5w7sdZFF1DmDtde0MITa0PG01IsRhGOMwysG j Received: from [198.185.18.207] by web162604.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 05:57:02 PST SSBjYW4gc2VlIGFsc28gYWZ0ZXJtYXJrZXQgc3ByaW5ncyBvbiB0aGlzIEJFLiBSZWFyIGVuZCBleHRyYSBoaWdoIGluIHRoZSBhaXIuIE5pY2UgZXhhbXBsZSBidXQgbm93aGVyZSBuZWFyIHRoZSBxdWFsaXR5IG9mIExlbydzIEJFLCBJcmlzLiBHbGFkIEkndmUgZ290wqBCdWdzeSBJScKgcHVyY2hhc2VkLiBZZXMgaGUgaXMgYSBraXQgb2YgcGFydHMgdG8gYmUgcmVhc3NlbWJsZWQgYnV0IGxvdHMgb2YgdXBzaWRlIHBvdGVudGlhbC4gTm93IHRvIGZpZ3VyZSBvdXQgaG93IHRvIHNuZWFrIGFub3RoZXIgQkUBMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 05:57:02 -0800 (PST) From: James Gruber To: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: [Spridgets] Cheap Bugeyes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I can see also aftermarket springs on this BE. Rear end extra high in the air. Nice example but nowhere near the quality of Leo's BE, Iris. Glad I've got Bugsy II purchased. Yes he is a kit of parts to be reassembled but lots of upside potential. Now to figure out how to sneak another BE into the garage at the lake that I know about for a really good price and not let SWMBO know until it's in there. Yes honey, I need it for spare parts. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 27 08:03:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E6440531 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:03:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from exprod8og109.obsmtp.com (exprod8og109.obsmtp.com [64.18.3.98]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA70440528 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:02:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail-vb0-f69.google.com ([209.85.212.69]) (using TLSv1) by exprod8ob109.postini.com ([64.18.7.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUS4ecuLlIZ5tMG65PXPvrYSLX7YRRR5d@postini.com; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:55:48 PST Received: by mail-vb0-f69.google.com with SMTP id ff20so122812vbb.0 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:55:46 -0800 (PST) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:x-received:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=t3mhYlfKh2A+5b/f4V8gbko+G5aTfoyfNdM5qsokmxU=; b=nNQDQARh+aywgJLCScJ5a+YVTLQSJKkMqECzHHuPv0CmhVuILLBptlfuvzmoTkUfme FYATvZE9vUuMG25TJ0RsaKTSH4ay/XzDCO8LYRW5hLT0+nSgf35HoQAqnAgmJETl4YtY Vo/+Rk0MnRNfZPZVmXuqY63gbnHTPsaHNo2Sbv7fYcPWd1/dFtvY1tc9arX5GWsu5UlL k1yNQ8XgRdUfOjSulY1x8Th2CjbLwtJ8hoJ5/qnvBydyXmYR+sDs5sfVPNBH3j8HFoLM 5pcZeGp8q5rDjphWPiPwLeRV3uaKtJ3f1+dm0r185rvIC0pTr2jatyaZYE6ELZfYB+zP uWMQ== g28mr796279qck.118.1361976946073; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:55:46 -0800 (PST) g28mr796273qck.118.1361976945894; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:55:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.4.34 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 06:55:03 -0800 (PST) From: "Wilson, Doug" Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:55:03 -0500 To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] End of Road Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Actually if you own a business that requires tangible assets (equipment/infrastructure) or is growing, you can be responsible for taxes on "cash" that you do not have. This may be a little difficult for the politicians or academics to understand , but it does result in fewer small and middle sized companies in the US and lower job growth. When money was easy and banks were lending this was not a major problem for the people that were willing to take the risk, but now that banks have been converted into "utilities" it is a pretty big deal. The pain is magnified if you pay taxes on an accrual basis and you are growing. On the other side of the coin some of the temporary measures help with accelerated depreciation, but it is pretty scary to build a business plan around temporary measures especially when you have a POTUS that is clueless and disinterested in business and commerce. Milton Friedman (Nobel Lariat) wrote some pretty books on this subject. It's ironical that a blog that is devoted to British cars is discussing this; the British tried all of the measures that we are currently adopting many years ago and proved without a doubt that it doesn't work. They went from being a world leader to a basket case and while Thatcher was able to slow the decline, the country really never recovered. -- Doug Wilson This email, and any documents which may accompany it, contain information which is intended for use only by the individual to whom it is addressed, and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution, copying or other use of this message or its substance is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact me immediately to arrange for return or destruction. Thank you. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 27 08:13:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93A8140548 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:13:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm10-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610FC40531 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:13:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.44.104] by nm10.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2013 15:06:30 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.73] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2013 15:06:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2013 15:06:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 11060 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Feb 2013 15:06:30 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361977590; bh=ndXnnWNYKJsER8pnG98dp0dJPuVewu7KZv0DQAvQedo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0JjSzD0o2pUrnqgLrBWwE4wrHQ5Qh7+UC2p5yOKC3LSN+1M3QAeU5H1UNv1xAkl3sbSluBPG9jfWmgJa2qcERk39H0B9E+bBfdbobz/5vhynqKmCaRoFCCN9E3ie9HgTGdUSKMfMj/CTZYll0303/wH0LkpMbVTpJwt+6fCaUMQ= s=s1024; d=snet.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FKEKHGOcsrKJDhu6pxxysGjwEzFPdhbtaH+rlncxo+3LM+4WHyLOq7XQCBVD/NzEBCnoezh1uhc4AkLuWPGu/J0zmfMwi35y8yGun0N+Ww6RNBg2F6y9Ofphy/7rTN2fu9AEy4NVlR0Gv8kIaXczhmUJTMX1RmpObrdubDLC5fM=; ur53zVkf6umTkhSyGx3Zn8SbJzUmM0WMjWXrBOH.voOJ0SnL60FiZx.t4iPR c_SF.jg.AwgvOE0auQTK24BaZ7_9_pY.sPQggKFYkXLZTI5mpdWaq7Q2LXz4 mvALVLT.Stc43r5ePjicTKl3iuBU7MW3nJywHkmKUNaZmHQn4xVF.VYvFbRn ZRleoFHgC5M_CH46MTIuR0x1g7ydJGqRmaNm6K6Q1RVC1vQcEJQcUUsmuyS9 7r.2APX3XAz79_adlFwz9dkCFrf4AQJ5w_3qF_P1aFj0_pOrxGRbY_6oHhqY lvyRjOQvY4z1Z_59LsPzJPHnW_T3JstwFjLgd26tbxwYYuUdt04wLWiOOhoR sYFTaS1edFZE3r9Fb0QGoOvS1wNmhqIbVrU5Cy1BvPAsK7pH4RAJQkQC31OR 3oqq5C1Lx_YM.MV82XWpSlFWHvjIILVzc2VPlGQ-- Received: from [69.0.36.132] by web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:06:29 PST TW9zdCBvZmYtdG9waWMgdGhyZWFkcyBvbiB0aGUgaW50ZXJuZXQgYXJlIG5vdGhpbmcgbW9yZSB0aGFuIGRyaXZlLWJ5IHJhbnRzIApwZXJwZXRyYXRlZCBieSBwZW9wbGUgd2hvIGRvbid0IHBvc3Nlc3MgdGhlIGF1dGhvcml0eSB0byB3cml0ZSBvbiB0aGUgdmFyaW91cyAKc3ViamVjdHMuCgoKQnV0IGl0IGhhcyBiZWNvbWUgbm9ybSBmb3IgdW5zdWJzdGFudGlhdGVkIG9waW5pb24gdG8gYmUgcGFzc2VkLW9uIGFzIGZhY3QuCiBqYXkKCgoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCkZyb20BMAEBAQE- References: Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:06:29 -0800 (PST) From: Jay To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] End of Road Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Most off-topic threads on the internet are nothing more than drive-by rants perpetrated by people who don't possess the authority to write on the various subjects. But it has become norm for unsubstantiated opinion to be passed-on as fact. jay ________________________________ From: "Wilson, Doug" To: spridgets@autox.team.net Sent: Wed, February 27, 2013 9:55:03 AM Subject: [Spridgets] End of Road It's ironical that a blog that is devoted to British cars is discussing this; ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 27 08:21:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EEFF40568 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:21:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com (mx2.netinteraction.com [174.143.201.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E5C4040D for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:21:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTP id 5A234F44109 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:14:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id WZiLKWyVPgjK for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:14:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com (75-128-248-175.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com [75.128.248.175]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTPA id AB7B5F440E5 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 07:14:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 09:14:37 -0600 To: spridgets@autox.team.net From: Peter Caldwell References: <1361977589.34608.YahooMailRC@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] End of Road Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Jay, I have to take issue with your statement below. "Internet" should be capitalized. Peter C = At 09:06 AM 2/27/2013, Jay wrote: >Most off-topic threads on the internet are nothing more than drive-by rants >perpetrated by people who don't possess the authority to write on the various >subjects. > > >But it has become norm for unsubstantiated opinion to be passed-on as fact. > jay > > > > >________________________________ >From: "Wilson, Doug" >To: spridgets@autox.team.net >Sent: Wed, February 27, 2013 9:55:03 AM >Subject: [Spridgets] End of Road > > > >It's ironical that a blog that is devoted to British cars is discussing this; >------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 27 08:26:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 329EE4056F for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:26:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm27.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm27.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.186]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E6440531 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 08:26:45 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.151] by nm27.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2013 15:19:38 -0000 Received: from [76.13.13.232] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2013 15:19:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp111-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Feb 2013 15:19:38 -0000 s=s1024; t=1361978378; bh=i/rs3PYy8xKjNmz4Ve8dCv1+qjsNg/qLNlpxWJev6Fs=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=bQkLO8kznssAlgk0TjzMt8ea1cTEnprln8/HNZ3wig1eMMIIdrbatVJIV5lbx5PO67A7+x7FxwDNHaLo0gwp1BhVLi4aIoYBJPkx6nGfVRS7vfgJTIZmwzknjstICjdo23etx8catjP7gAOmrJeuZV11xd7ixWayoy2Jtx8cFPs= j4.sR.m6Fd1vy3VjxLyGDZ9pk3Jfkqh22GZjpx3VQsxoSNqJaP8VGQR53R7r qszhgoub2FK7teMMN.iO5RcCM6vESGu7_CflvD6Rb_W28owqgglZGuifUY7U 7rjxFK8EhK6MImHJrgorUhe4FnF7Hfl5OxRqtSNDgz0Og1Qnpl3Fy8wy8VO4 efMrG44no9e5bwD5UK0_CRBOgto6T5c_hdm1VB4Fb8I6Vgch1URJSIInwhib 9tRStRu48X7QUTFr.IIo2rhwrzb6apEWD_5CqMYQJIy22Hduba_Mu_S7Fmug quVYxfzxqGMkkiYkD6_XEO2OtOxDMCgfXolW5dx.YKaapDBs7y_veN4_LofP AFyCbcLI6qAKtLfFj7PtTPNIxiBG4JU9zcptURp_7zI4LW5.mHbgxucMAZo9 zJRMoW3kdIsSe4rem4Zv4p2vB8e6LJQe0yQ-- Received: from [10.0.151.23] (jfishbein@198.228.207.152 with xymcookie) by smtp111-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Feb 2013 07:19:38 -0800 PST References: <1361977589.34608.YahooMailRC@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <20130227151439.5A234F44109@mx2.netinteraction.com> From: Jay Fishbein Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:19:33 -0500 To: Peter Caldwell Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] End of Road Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net See what I mean? Jay On Feb 27, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > Jay, > I have to take issue with your statement below. "Internet" should be capitalized. > > Peter C > = > At 09:06 AM 2/27/2013, Jay wrote: >> Most off-topic threads on the internet are nothing more than drive-by rants >> perpetrated by people who don't possess the authority to write on the various >> subjects. >> >> >> But it has become norm for unsubstantiated opinion to be passed-on as fact. >> jay ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Feb 27 12:09:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C20D40559 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:09:27 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f41.google.com (mail-ee0-f41.google.com [74.125.83.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 333A640549 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 11:50:57 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ee0-f41.google.com with SMTP id c13so777948eek.14 for ; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:43:48 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=K+NLpsnDgcRQoKoQk502akuFXFRWqj6MwNJBajwR1mI=; b=RXSuq1MZjM5IKo8VCPyNO6OJzZSgI3LRBU6qf96ZEroeRpDGmIkQ4c1yadLMlazoPi Zvk0ojclokafEWPq3evKpVVxJP3cXCNsoEY2f+BVlJTxxvTsxmTX1nRO+s4nzA4alOdP 87KQGcXtOrnbYtLom3Aa2A6gACPn6KyBOhHsaWRi+pPEHFHyTJ8im4g+q7CUMI8bXLRK xh31TmTVHeEqq9A6TxCDeQ580ZfuB+NyDsDzGBd9L4jCQx4yDrKu2Rc9QHcKk+YNymNy SojwKjxoRlQh7DK7RzHDIoppOShLrmv0fVsk9dJiHJAjVBnT8QEklwDOQfn6HgxGkJjp pnBQ== o9mr8621785eem.13.1361990628057; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:43:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.144.76 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Feb 2013 10:43:47 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:43:47 -0600 From: Brad Fornal To: "Wilson, Doug" Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] End of Road Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Much as I own the mineral rights to my property. There have been gas wells all around north Texas, harvesting natural gas. 5 or 6 years ago, I signed a lease, and was to receive a portion of the revenue, when they started drilling. They have not started drilling yet, BUT, I am being taxed every year, on POSSIBLE income, that I am not receiving. What a line of SHIT this is... On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Wilson, Doug wrote: > Actually if you own a business that requires tangible assets > (equipment/infrastructure) or is growing, you can be responsible for taxes > on "cash" that you do not have. This may be a little difficult for the > politicians or academics to understand , but it does result in fewer small > and middle sized companies in the US and lower job growth. When money was > easy and banks were lending this was not a major problem for the people > that were willing to take the risk, but now that banks have been converted > into "utilities" it is a pretty big deal. The pain is magnified if you pay > taxes on an accrual basis and you are growing. On the other side of the > coin some of the temporary measures help with accelerated depreciation, but > it is pretty scary to build a business plan around temporary measures > especially when you have a POTUS that is clueless and disinterested in > business and commerce. Milton Friedman (Nobel Lariat) wrote some pretty > books on this subject. > > It's ironical that a blog that is devoted to British cars is discussing > this; the British tried all of the measures that we are currently adopting > many years ago and proved without a doubt that it doesn't work. They went > from being a world leader to a basket case and while Thatcher was able to > slow the decline, the country really never recovered. > > -- > Doug Wilson > > This email, and any documents which may accompany it, contain information > which is intended for use only by the individual to whom it is addressed, > and may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt > from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not > the intended recipient any review, disclosure, dissemination, distribution, > copying or other use of this message or its substance is strictly > prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please contact me > immediately to arrange for return or destruction. Thank you. > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tequila.brad@gmail.com > -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive