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From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net, Dean Hedin <dlh2001@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] generator/regulator
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All I know is my Bugeye has been running faultlessly for almost 14 years with
a generator and a voltage regulator.  Starts and runs every time and I just
had five Hanger 24 Amarillo Pale Ales, so bite me Dean.

Mike MacLean
60 Sprite (with generator and voltage regulator)
56 BN2 (will have generator and voltage regulator when complete)

--- On Wed, 5/1/13, Dean Hedin <dlh2001@comcast.net> wrote:
Tell you what.  My final thoughts on this...after several beers.

I think more LBC's have been set aside to rot away as a result of
generator/regulator issues than anything else.
Yep. That's what I believe.

If more folks were proactive back in the 60's and 70's to convert the cars
to alternators then there would be a lot
more surviving LBCs on the road today.  Instead, the owners got frustrated,
parked them "out back", and now they have
a tree growing up through the center of them.  These cars are lost forever.

Yeah, it's great that some can get by with the the original generator setup.
But these individuals
should not scorn the move to convert to alternators.  It is not in their
best interest, nor is it in the best interest
of the hobby in general.

I believe that the the popularity and intrigue of the little British sports
car lives and dies by it's presence on the road.
This is confirmed to me every day that I observe a "head turn" as my little
Bugeye blasts by someone.
They can't belive what they are looking at.
 
It's not hard to convert to an alternator.  But more importantly, it's not
hard to convert back to a generator if you want to
later on.  There is no "heresy" here.  It is a trivial thing. Anyone who
would tell you differently is a backwards 
old fart that can't evolve.  Shame on them!

So don't be an asshole and somehow try to claim that the generator is better
or as good as an alternator.
You can't win the arguemet. Go ahead.  I am ready to defend the alternator.


Mr. Rowe is struggling here.  Spring time is Sprite time.  Can we get past
this?

Make them reliable.  Drive them all you can...   
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>Tell you what. My final thoughts on this...after several beers.

Wait a minute.  I'm the one who is supposed to be soaking my troubles in 
beer.  And I certainly did not want to start a fight with anyone on this 
topic.  I just want my car to run so I can impress the teenaged girls.  Old 
farts don't get a lot of opportunities like this, and time is running out. 
Soon I will be able to get in the car, but will need help getting out - not 
very impressive.

I am now convinced that I have a wiring problem somewhere.  That is, of 
course, after I threw away one multimeter and replaced the generator pulley 
that split in half and fell out in the street.

Example:  I have been tracing wires.  The big brown wire that is supposed to 
go from the regulator to the battery via the starter solenoid, about 12", 
instead goes through the bulkhead to the right interior under the dash, 
crosses left, then exits the interior through another hole by the battery. 
It is a long run and impossible to check as it is all wound in black tape. 
The best I can do is a continuity check end to end.  I have yet to find the 
far end of the ground from the regulator, but it has continuity.

I just went out to check that gound again, because we all know the probems 
with grounds.  The battery has been on a trickle charger all night, as 
reduced charging means I run on the battery alone.  But I apparently forgot 
to turn off the key, so the battery was sucked completely dry while on the 
charger - zero voltage.  I have a parasitic drain somewhere that is greater 
than the input of a trickle charger.  The battery is only a few days old.

Wrath of the Gods,
Michael Rowe
The Holy Sprite 
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 08:36:08 -0500
From: derf <derf247@gmail.com>
To: Michael Rowe <mdrowe@optonline.net>
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That wire path may indicate an Amp meter at some point in the past.
Abandon it and put the proper 12" wire in place, if you can.
With everything off remove your negative battery terminal and see how many
amps are being drawn between the terminal and the negative battery post
with your meter.  In other words put the meter on amps and in series with
your battery.  Don't try and start it or do anything that requires a lot of
current with the meter in series because everything will be running through
the meter.  I think with everything stock it should read zero amps.  An
aftermarket modern radio might draw some milliamps, for example.  If you
get a reading of 1 amp or something then disconnect one electrical thing at
a time until the reading goes away.  Start by pulling fuses (if you have
them) to eliminate circuits/devices.  I'd look hard at the regulator.
Grounds cause all kinds of problems but they don't drain batteries.
Do you have a regulator that is known to be good?  New from M*$$ is not the
same as known good.
Spridget electrics are not complicated.  You should be able to identify the
power drain pretty easily.


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 7:48 AM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe@optonline.net> wrote:

> Tell you what. My final thoughts on this...after several beers.
>>
>
> Wait a minute.  I'm the one who is supposed to be soaking my troubles in
> beer.  And I certainly did not want to start a fight with anyone on this
> topic.  I just want my car to run so I can impress the teenaged girls.  Old
> farts don't get a lot of opportunities like this, and time is running out.
> Soon I will be able to get in the car, but will need help getting out - not
> very impressive.
>
> I am now convinced that I have a wiring problem somewhere.  That is, of
> course, after I threw away one multimeter and replaced the generator pulley
> that split in half and fell out in the street.
>
> Example:  I have been tracing wires.  The big brown wire that is supposed
> to go from the regulator to the battery via the starter solenoid, about
> 12", instead goes through the bulkhead to the right interior under the
> dash, crosses left, then exits the interior through another hole by the
> battery. It is a long run and impossible to check as it is all wound in
> black tape. The best I can do is a continuity check end to end.  I have yet
> to find the far end of the ground from the regulator, but it has continuity.
>
> I just went out to check that gound again, because we all know the probems
> with grounds.  The battery has been on a trickle charger all night, as
> reduced charging means I run on the battery alone.  But I apparently forgot
> to turn off the key, so the battery was sucked completely dry while on the
> charger - zero voltage.  I have a parasitic drain somewhere that is greater
> than the input of a trickle charger.  The battery is only a few days old.
>
> Wrath of the Gods,
> Michael Rowe
> The Holy Sprite ------------------------
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Is there anyone in or near Detroit that would be willing to go look at a car
for us?  If so please send us a private email and we will give you the
details.

Thanks in advance,

Kristi


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<< On 5/1/2013 12:38 PM, Kristi & Lambert wrote:
> Is there anyone in or near Detroit  >>

Rough location NEEDED, Kristi <G> ! !  Lots of folks "around or 
near......" <VBG> ! !

NOT me tho !  LOL

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Were not in a fight.  I've already won the argument and you're struggles
with the genny the proof of that fact.
If you struggles are to no avail then you car ends up in the field with a
tree growing through it.
That's all that is at stake here.

As of yet nobody with an alternator conversion has complained about anything
on this list.

Be thankful there are commrades in arms willing to share in your suffering
and to drown our sorrows in our own 
beer and you not having to buy us one.  It is a great thing of this Internet
age.

Now, let's see if I can help.  Do you have the
"Lucas_Generator_and_Control_Box_Tests" document?
It's pretty handy for dihards like yourself. I will email it to you off list
expediantly.   

Even the generator is pretty simple.  The big wire out the generator is
where all the output comes.  The little wire
is the field.  The field is an input.  If there is no field current applied
then there is no output from the generator.
The regulator senses the drop in battery voltage and applies field current
when needed (assuming the regulator is adjusted correctly)    

You said it was new and adjusted so don't mess with your regulator. 

Run the tests outlined in the document and let us know of the resuilts.
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2013 20:38:23 -0500
From: derf <derf247@gmail.com>
To: Dean Hedin <dlh2001@comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [Spridgets] generator/regulator
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Yeah, I had a guy on the list at one time (can't remember whom) who stated
something like he wanted to meet me in an alley.
We still haven't assaulted each other, yet, so I assume whatever was at
stake wasn't really important.
I'm mild mannered and slow to anger and no one ever seems to want to "meet
me in an alley" in person.
Point is not everyone gets along with everyone else all the time.  Internet
rows rarely make it into the real world.
We all have something in common and we all would like to see you get your
car running.
Don't sweat the little things and try and be civil.


On Wed, May 1, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Dean Hedin <dlh2001@comcast.net> wrote:

> Were not in a fight.  I've already won the argument and you're struggles
> with the genny the proof of that fact.
> If you struggles are to no avail then you car ends up in the field with a
> tree growing through it.
> That's all that is at stake here.
>
> As of yet nobody with an alternator conversion has complained about
> anything
> on this list.
>
> Be thankful there are commrades in arms willing to share in your suffering
> and to drown our sorrows in our own
> beer and you not having to buy us one.  It is a great thing of this
> Internet
> age.
>
> Now, let's see if I can help.  Do you have the
> "Lucas_Generator_and_Control_Box_Tests" document?
> It's pretty handy for dihards like yourself. I will email it to you off
> list
> expediantly.
>
> Even the generator is pretty simple.  The big wire out the generator is
> where all the output comes.  The little wire
> is the field.  The field is an input.  If there is no field current applied
> then there is no output from the generator.
> The regulator senses the drop in battery voltage and applies field current
> when needed (assuming the regulator is adjusted correctly)
>
> You said it was new and adjusted so don't mess with your regulator.
>
> Run the tests outlined in the document and let us know of the resuilts.
> ------------------------
>
> spridgets@autox.team.net
>
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Changing the dynamo for an alternator was one of the modifications I glad I 
 did to my Sprite but with 150 watts main beam and 100 watts dipped beam  
headlamps does skew this for me.
 
 
In a message dated 02/05/2013 01:30:42 GMT Daylight Time,  
dlh2001@comcast.net writes:

As of  yet nobody with an alternator conversion has complained about 
anything
on  this list.
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I went again to the generator guy, who put his $4K testing machine on the battery.  It looked normal with engine off, and went bonkers with the engine on, just like mine.  He said, "I have never in my life seen that response."  So he poked around with a jumper and finally got something that looked normal on his terster when he jumped the negative battery terminal to the engine.  It's a bad ground, embarrassing to admit.

So rather than fuss with the regular engine ground which is frozen, I cleaned up the firewall ground and added a second battery cable from the firewall to a transmission bolt in a convenient place.  No joy.  I assume the transmission has a gasket, but there are a lot of bolts going through to the engine, plus the normal engine ground is through the transmission via the slave cylinder.  

Back to the generator guy.  "Why didn't you attach it to the engine?  Are you just trying to make it look pretty?"  (Yes.)  "Forget about pretty.  Take this #10 wire and attach it to the starter bolt."

Well, this time I didn't mess around:  I got out my big jumpers and attached one end to the firewall ground and the other end directly to the generator mount at the water pump.  Now I have a direct circuit from the D terminal to the regulator to the battery to the generator frame.  I am still not able to reproduce what the generator guy found.  

It's a Spridget moment.  Time for a beer.  Maybe two.

Michael Rowe
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Anyone in this area willing to do a favor?

-- 
DON JULIO 1942

http://tequilabrad.com/
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Hang in there Mike...  You'll get it yet!   It's always the last problem
you find...   ;-)

Cheers!!
Jim

On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Michael Rowe <mdrowe@optonline.net> wrote:

> I went again to the generator guy, who put his $4K testing machine on the
> battery.  It looked normal with engine off, and went bonkers with the
> engine on, just like mine.  He said, "I have never in my life seen that
> response."  So he poked around with a jumper and finally got something that
> looked normal on his terster when he jumped the negative battery terminal
> to the engine.  It's a bad ground, embarrassing to admit.
>
> So rather than fuss with the regular engine ground which is frozen, I
> cleaned up the firewall ground and added a second battery cable from the
> firewall to a transmission bolt in a convenient place.  No joy.  I assume
> the transmission has a gasket, but there are a lot of bolts going through
> to the engine, plus the normal engine ground is through the transmission
> via the slave cylinder.
>
> Back to the generator guy.  "Why didn't you attach it to the engine?  Are
> you just trying to make it look pretty?"  (Yes.)  "Forget about pretty.
>  Take this #10 wire and attach it to the starter bolt."
>
> Well, this time I didn't mess around:  I got out my big jumpers and
> attached one end to the firewall ground and the other end directly to the
> generator mount at the water pump.  Now I have a direct circuit from the D
> terminal to the regulator to the battery to the generator frame.  I am
> still not able to reproduce what the generator guy found.
>
> It's a Spridget moment.  Time for a beer.  Maybe two.
>
> Michael Rowe
> ------------------------
>
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Question.  Do all alternators have internal regulators?  

Back in the day, my brand new '68 MGB had a Lucas alternator with
an internal regulator.  The regulator would go bad and I had to
replace the alternator after 8-9 months.  I did this 3 times. 
No one could find the problem.  I had a fog and a driving light and
with those on anything else I switched on, i.e., wipers, the no charge
light would come on.  I know the early alternators did not have much
more output than the dynamos but it became $$$ and I traded the car in on
a '73 Capri V6.

I kept thinking if my car had an
"external" regulator I could have monitored that and saved an
alternator or 2.

Just curious.

DW




> Changing the dynamo for an alternator was one of the
modifications I glad
> I
>  did to my Sprite but with 150
watts main beam and 100 watts dipped beam
> headlamps does skew
this for me.
> 
> 
> In a message dated 02/05/2013
01:30:42 GMT Daylight Time,
> dlh2001@comcast.net writes:
> 
> As of  yet nobody with an alternator conversion has
complained about
> anything
> on  this list.
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No.  Not all alternator are internally regulated.


On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 10:32 PM, <dwoerpel@wi.net> wrote:

> Question.  Do all alternators have internal regulators?
>
> Back in the day, my brand new '68 MGB had a Lucas alternator with
> an internal regulator.  The regulator would go bad and I had to
> replace the alternator after 8-9 months.  I did this 3 times.
> No one could find the problem.  I had a fog and a driving light and
> with those on anything else I switched on, i.e., wipers, the no charge
> light would come on.  I know the early alternators did not have much
> more output than the dynamos but it became $$$ and I traded the car in on
> a '73 Capri V6.
>
> I kept thinking if my car had an
> "external" regulator I could have monitored that and saved an
> alternator or 2.
>
> Just curious.
>
> DW
>
>
>
>
> > Changing the dynamo for an alternator was one of the
> modifications I glad
> > I
> >  did to my Sprite but with 150
> watts main beam and 100 watts dipped beam
> > headlamps does skew
> this for me.
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 02/05/2013
> 01:30:42 GMT Daylight Time,
> > dlh2001@comcast.net writes:
> >
> > As of  yet nobody with an alternator conversion has
> complained about
> > anything
> > on  this list.
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You could have bought the internal regulator for $12.00, too, and 
installed it in situ.
         Peter C
=
At 10:32 PM 5/2/2013, dwoerpel@wi.net wrote:
>Question.  Do all alternators have internal regulators?
>
>Back in the day, my brand new '68 MGB had a Lucas alternator with
>an internal regulator.  The regulator would go bad and I had to
>replace the alternator after 8-9 months.  I did this 3 times.
>No one could find the problem.  I had a fog and a driving light and
>with those on anything else I switched on, i.e., wipers, the no charge
>light would come on.  I know the early alternators did not have much
>more output than the dynamos but it became $$$ and I traded the car in on
>a '73 Capri V6.
>
>I kept thinking if my car had an
>"external" regulator I could have monitored that and saved an
>alternator or 2.
>
>Just curious.
>
>DW
>
>
>
>
> > Changing the dynamo for an alternator was one of the
>modifications I glad
> > I
> >  did to my Sprite but with 150
>watts main beam and 100 watts dipped beam
> > headlamps does skew
>this for me.
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 02/05/2013
>01:30:42 GMT Daylight Time,
> > dlh2001@comcast.net writes:
> >
> > As of  yet nobody with an alternator conversion has
>complained about
> > anything
> > on  this list.
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AH Sprite Service Parts List book
            Second Issue
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Photo copied - two sided manual in a binder from original list. Shows every 
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Item #:230973883586

Unfortunately it needs an alternator. 

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Be prepared for the comments, "Wonderful patina. I'd just clean it up and
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Item #:230973883586

Unfortunately it needs an alternator. 

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From: Jay Fishbein <jfishbein@snet.net>
Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 09:43:19 -0700
To: HealeyRick <healeyrick@yahoo.com>
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Why clean it up?

Jay

On May 4, 2013, at 9:36 AM, HealeyRick <healeyrick@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Be prepared for the comments, "Wonderful patina. I'd just clean it up and
drive it as is."
>
> Rick
>
> "Madman in a death machine"
> Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo
> From: Jay Fishbein <jfishbein@snet.net>
> To: Spridget List <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 11:49 AM
> Subject: [Spridgets] One Owner Bugeye in eBay
>
> Item #:230973883586
>
> Unfortunately it needs an alternator.
>
> Jay
> ------------------------
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I can't believe that you guys would even consider it.  Look in that first set
of pictures.  You can see that the tire was flat and there is NO original air
in it..  hardly worth the trouble to go pick it up.  Maybe there is some scrap
or parts value..

Lester


On May 4, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Jay Fishbein wrote:

> Why clean it up?
>
> Jay
>
> On May 4, 2013, at 9:36 AM, HealeyRick <healeyrick@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Be prepared for the comments, "Wonderful patina. I'd just clean it up and
> drive it as is."
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> "Madman in a death machine"
>> Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo
>> From: Jay Fishbein <jfishbein@snet.net>
>> To: Spridget List <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 11:49 AM
>> Subject: [Spridgets] One Owner Bugeye in eBay
>>
>> Item #:230973883586
>>
>> Unfortunately it needs an alternator.
>>
>> Jay
>> ------------------------
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He says it was parked with no major issues. He must have missed the obvious 
missing left front turn signal lens.


-----Original Message----- 
From: Lester
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 2:18 PM
To: Jay Fishbein
Cc: Spridget List
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] One Owner Bugeye in eBay

I can't believe that you guys would even consider it.  Look in that first 
set
of pictures.  You can see that the tire was flat and there is NO original 
air
in it..  hardly worth the trouble to go pick it up.  Maybe there is some 
scrap
or parts value..

Lester


On May 4, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Jay Fishbein wrote:

> Why clean it up?
>
> Jay
>
> On May 4, 2013, at 9:36 AM, HealeyRick <healeyrick@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Be prepared for the comments, "Wonderful patina. I'd just clean it up and
> drive it as is."
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> "Madman in a death machine"
>> Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo
>> From: Jay Fishbein <jfishbein@snet.net>
>> To: Spridget List <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 11:49 AM
>> Subject: [Spridgets] One Owner Bugeye in eBay
>>
>> Item #:230973883586
>>
>> Unfortunately it needs an alternator.
>>
>> Jay
>> ------------------------
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It isn't a genuine Bugeye, there's no gold arrow on the back.

Guy R Day



----- Original Message ----- 
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To: "Jay Fishbein" <>; "Spridget List" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] One Owner Bugeye in eBay


> Be prepared for the comments, "Wonderful patina. I'd just clean it up and
> drive it as is."
>
>
> Rick
>
>
> "Madman in a death machine"
> Follow My Nasty Boy
> Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo
>
>
> ________________________________
> From:
> Jay Fishbein <>
> To: Spridget List <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, May 4, 2013 11:49 AM
> Subject: [Spridgets] One Owner Bugeye in
> eBay
>
>
> Item #:230973883586
>
> Unfortunately it needs an alternator.
>
> Jay
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Now that Texas has decided to bless us with warmer weather again, I went
out to see if I could resolve my ignition light issue. I removed the cover
off the voltage regulator, and found both coils to be horribly burned, and
on the bottom coil, the bouncing plate, that the points work with, is
broken loose.
I dug into my parts bins, and found a regulator from a 58 Sprite that I had
parted out. Will this work as a bolt in replacement?
Thanks in advance

Brad

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From: Jim Johnson <bmwwxman@gmail.com>
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No.  You'll have to build a replacement out of old pork and beans
cans...    ;-)

Seriously - I have no idea, Bradster!

Cheers!!
Jim

On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad@gmail.com> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Now that Texas has decided to bless us with warmer weather again, I went
> out to see if I could resolve my ignition light issue. I removed the cover
> off the voltage regulator, and found both coils to be horribly burned, and
> on the bottom coil, the bouncing plate, that the points work with, is
> broken loose.
> I dug into my parts bins, and found a regulator from a 58 Sprite that I
> had parted out. Will this work as a bolt in replacement?
> Thanks in advance
>
> Brad
>
> --
> DON JULIO 1942
>
> http://tequilabrad.com/
>
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They both looked the same, both cars were positive ground, so I went ahead
and put it in. My question is, what does it control? I left the cover off,
and when the car was running, it didn't do anything.
Magically though, my wipers now work.


On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad@gmail.com> wrote:

> They both looked the same, both cars were positive ground, so I went ahead
> and put it in. My question is, what does it control? I left the cover off,
> and when the car was running, it didn't do anything.
> Magically though, my wipers now work.
>
>
> On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> No.  You'll have to build a replacement out of old pork and beans
>> cans...    ;-)
>>
>> Seriously - I have no idea, Bradster!
>>
>> Cheers!!
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>> Now that Texas has decided to bless us with warmer weather again, I went
>>> out to see if I could resolve my ignition light issue. I removed the cover
>>> off the voltage regulator, and found both coils to be horribly burned, and
>>> on the bottom coil, the bouncing plate, that the points work with, is
>>> broken loose.
>>> I dug into my parts bins, and found a regulator from a 58 Sprite that I
>>> had parted out. Will this work as a bolt in replacement?
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>> --
>>> DON JULIO 1942
>>>
>>> http://tequilabrad.com/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>> Jim Johnson
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Should work fine Brad.  But don't tell Dean what you're doing.  :-)



Sent from my keyboard

On May 4, 2013, at 6:45 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad@gmail.com> wrote:

> Now that Texas has decided to bless us with warmer weather again, I went
> out to see if I could resolve my ignition light issue. I removed the cover
> off the voltage regulator, and found both coils to be horribly burned, and
> on the bottom coil, the bouncing plate, that the points work with, is
> broken loose.
> I dug into my parts bins, and found a regulator from a 58 Sprite that I had
> parted out. Will this work as a bolt in replacement?
> Thanks in advance
>
> Brad
>
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Here is a Google search on the subject. Find a read that makes sense to you.
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They both looked the same, both cars were positive ground, so I went ahead
and put it in. My question is, what does it control? I left the cover off,
and when the car was running, it didn't do anything.
Magically though, my wipers now work.


On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad@gmail.com> wrote:

> They both looked the same, both cars were positive ground, so I went ahead
> and put it in. My question is, what does it control? I left the cover off,
> and when the car was running, it didn't do anything.
> Magically though, my wipers now work.
>
>
> On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> No.  You'll have to build a replacement out of old pork and beans
>> cans...    ;-)
>>
>> Seriously - I have no idea, Bradster!
>>
>> Cheers!!
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Brad Fornal
<tequila.brad@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>> Now that Texas has decided to bless us with warmer weather again, I went
>>> out to see if I could resolve my ignition light issue. I removed the
cover
>>> off the voltage regulator, and found both coils to be horribly burned,
and
>>> on the bottom coil, the bouncing plate, that the points work with, is
>>> broken loose.
>>> I dug into my parts bins, and found a regulator from a 58 Sprite that I
>>> had parted out. Will this work as a bolt in replacement?
>>> Thanks in advance
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>> --
>>> DON JULIO 1942
>>>
>>> http://tequilabrad.com/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cheers!!
>> Jim Johnson
>> Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
>> High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
>> Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
>> Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
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Did you ever take the cover off the old one?  It didn't do anything either..
so the new one is likely just fine..  ;-)

Lester


On May 4, 2013, at 7:24 PM, Brad Fornal wrote:

> They both looked the same, both cars were positive ground, so I went ahead
> and put it in. My question is, what does it control? I left the cover off,
> and when the car was running, it didn't do anything.
> Magically though, my wipers now work.
>
>
> On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> They both looked the same, both cars were positive ground, so I went ahead
>> and put it in. My question is, what does it control? I left the cover off,
>> and when the car was running, it didn't do anything.
>> Magically though, my wipers now work.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No.  You'll have to build a replacement out of old pork and beans
>>> cans...    ;-)
>>>
>>> Seriously - I have no idea, Bradster!
>>>
>>> Cheers!!
>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Brad Fornal
<tequila.brad@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> **
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Now that Texas has decided to bless us with warmer weather again, I went
>>>> out to see if I could resolve my ignition light issue. I removed the
cover
>>>> off the voltage regulator, and found both coils to be horribly burned,
and
>>>> on the bottom coil, the bouncing plate, that the points work with, is
>>>> broken loose.
>>>> I dug into my parts bins, and found a regulator from a 58 Sprite that I
>>>> had parted out. Will this work as a bolt in replacement?
>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>> Brad
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> DON JULIO 1942
>>>>
>>>> http://tequilabrad.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers!!
>>> Jim Johnson
>>> Sprite-Midget Club USA <http://www.Sprite-MidgetClub.org>
>>> High Plains Youth Hockey <http://www.highplainsyouthhockey.org>
>>> Dodge City Trail of Fame <http://www.DodgeCityTrailofFame.org>
>>> Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology <http://www.EJSSM.org>
>>> Dodge City 300 <http://www.DodgeCity300.org>
>>>
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From: Brad Fornal <tequila.brad@gmail.com>
To: Lester <oldsaabguy@comcast.net>
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The old one was totally melted. I can take a photo and post it on my
website, if anyone thinks they want to see it. It looked like it had been
in a fire.


On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Lester <oldsaabguy@comcast.net> wrote:

> Did you ever take the cover off the old one?  It didn't do anything
> either..  so the new one is likely just fine..  ;-)
>
> Lester
>
>
> On May 4, 2013, at 7:24 PM, Brad Fornal wrote:
>
> > They both looked the same, both cars were positive ground, so I went
> ahead
> > and put it in. My question is, what does it control? I left the cover
> off,
> > and when the car was running, it didn't do anything.
> > Magically though, my wipers now work.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> They both looked the same, both cars were positive ground, so I went
> ahead
> >> and put it in. My question is, what does it control? I left the cover
> off,
> >> and when the car was running, it didn't do anything.
> >> Magically though, my wipers now work.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 6:50 PM, Jim Johnson <bmwwxman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> No.  You'll have to build a replacement out of old pork and beans
> >>> cans...    ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Seriously - I have no idea, Bradster!
> >>>
> >>> Cheers!!
> >>> Jim
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> >>> On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 5:45 PM, Brad Fornal <tequila.brad@gmail.com
> >wrote:
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> >>>> **
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Now that Texas has decided to bless us with warmer weather again, I
> went
> >>>> out to see if I could resolve my ignition light issue. I removed the
> cover
> >>>> off the voltage regulator, and found both coils to be horribly
> burned, and
> >>>> on the bottom coil, the bouncing plate, that the points work with, is
> >>>> broken loose.
> >>>> I dug into my parts bins, and found a regulator from a 58 Sprite that
> I
> >>>> had parted out. Will this work as a bolt in replacement?
> >>>> Thanks in advance
> >>>>
> >>>> Brad
> >>>>
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Most newer ones are internally regulated.
Lucas alternators? Heck you might as well run a generator then!

We need to come up with the "easy to do" alternator upgrade.

Tim Collins has a nice set of instructions, but like me he had to cut the
alternator 
ear to the engine. He also did a lot of welding for the bracket.
Tim is using a "Worldwide Alternator part # 14717. (Mitsubishi) 60 amp as
used on 1987 
Mazda 323, Mazda B2000, '84-'89 Nisson 300ZX and a host of other cars".

We need a "no mod" alternator solution.  It needs to use a cheap and
plentiful 
Modern alternator.

Most of them no longer have V pulleys but maybe we can find a suitable
pulley from
McMaster Carr or some place like that.

This guy did it with the 78-80 Fiesta Alternator:
http://www.nonlintec.com/sprite/alternator/

I Googled it and that alternator seems to be cheap and plentiful. ($35 from
PartsGeek.com)
The only downside is this is an older alternator and it has the external
sheet metal fan.
I prefer a more modern alternator though, I think they actually have made
some improvements
in alternator design in the last 25 years.

But I think that the Bosch unit (combined with Frank Clarici's instructions)
might be the easiest
approach.

I'm using a (I believe 1993) Honda Prelude alternator "NSA 90 amp".  But I
had to
locate a pulley and the connections are a little more complex. 
I like my setup but its not a bolt in swap.  I think I'm using the existing
generator 
bracket.


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Question.  Do all alternators have internal regulators?  
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It controls or regulates the output from the dynamo to prevent overcharging 
 of the battery.  The dynamo might put out 14 volts charge which the 
battery  won't like so the clicking points thing prevents this from happening.  
Then  if you put all the headlights on and they draw 2 volts the clicking 
points thing  needs to open to let all the dynamo produce the full charge - 12 
to the battery  and 2 to the lights.
 
The easiest way to see this work is have an assistant switch stuff on while 
 the engine is running and for extra interest have a voltmeter across the  
battery.
 
 
In a message dated 05/05/2013 01:30:23 GMT Daylight Time,  
tequila.brad@gmail.com writes:

They  both looked the same, both cars were positive ground, so I went ahead
and  put it in. My question is, what does it control? I left the cover off,
and  when the car was running, it didn't do anything.
Magically though, my  wipers now work.
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>The dynamo might put out 14 volts charge which the
battery won't like so the clicking points thing prevents this from happening

It is hard to visualize how this works from above when it is on the car. 
Hold it up sideways and move the parts with your fingers.

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50 years ago today, Heinz Meixner smuggled his bride and her mother 
to freedom by driving a rented Austin Healey Sprite MKII under the 
gate cross arm at Check Point Charlie in East Germany. He prepared 
the car by taking the wind screen off and by letting some air out of 
the tires. He ducked down and cleared the cross arm with 2 inches to 
spare. It's quite a story and worth a read (Google Heinz Meixner). It 
is worth noting that the same car was used to smuggle another bride 
to freedom a few months later. After that the East Germans modified 
the cross arm so prevent any others from driving under the gate. 
Remember Heinz today as you go about your business and as you drive 
your Spridget.

Hurray for Freedom!

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From: Brad Fornal <tequila.brad@gmail.com>
To: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com
Cc: Spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] [midgetsprite] Speaking of Bugeyes
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I don't believe the dynamo is putting out enough voltage, as the ignition
lamp on the panel is dimly illuminated while the engine is running at 2K. I
have another one on the shelf, I'll put it on when I get back from holiday.



On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 4:09 AM, <WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com> wrote:

> **
> It controls or regulates the output from the dynamo to prevent
> overcharging of the battery.  The dynamo might put out 14 volts charge
> which the battery won't like so the clicking points thing prevents this
> from happening.  Then if you put all the headlights on and they draw 2
> volts the clicking points thing needs to open to let all the dynamo produce
> the full charge - 12 to the battery and 2 to the lights.
>
> The easiest way to see this work is have an assistant switch stuff on
> while the engine is running and for extra interest have a voltmeter across
> the battery.
>
>  In a message dated 05/05/2013 01:30:23 GMT Daylight Time,
> tequila.brad@gmail.com writes:
>
> They both looked the same, both cars were positive ground, so I went ahead
> and put it in. My question is, what does it control? I left the cover off,
> and when the car was running, it didn't do anything.
> Magically though, my wipers now work.
>
>


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Any guess as to what this car may bring? I have a friend that is interested

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A dynamo doesn't put out as much voltage as an alternator at low rpm and 2K 
 is a relatively low rpm for a dynamo.
 
In a message dated 05/05/2013 15:19:11 GMT Daylight Time,  
tequila.brad@gmail.com writes:
 
I don't  believe the dynamo is putting out enough voltage, as the ignition 
lamp on the  panel is dimly illuminated while the engine is running at 2K. I 
have another  one on the shelf, I'll put it on when I get back from  
holiday.
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ebay number 230973883586

On May 5, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Hal Faulkner <frog.aye@gmail.com> wrote:

> Larry,
> No idea.  Might have a better idea if you included a link or auction number
<G>
> Hal
>
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Larry & Sandi Mller <millerls@ado13.com>
wrote:
> Any guess as to what this car may bring? I have a friend that is interested
>
> Larry Miller
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$11,000.


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> Any guess as to what this car may bring? I have a friend that is interested
>
> Larry Miller
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<< On 5/5/2013 12:27 PM, Larry & Sandi Mller wrote:

ebay number 230973883586
On May 5, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Hal Faulkner<frog.aye@gmail.com>  wrote:and HAL asked:

>Larry,
>No idea.  Might have a better idea if you included a link or auction number  >>

You (and the rest of us <G>) WOULD have known IF Larry had NOT changed the "Subject:",
Hal ! ! !  LOL

SAME car as:  "Re: [Spridgets] One Owner Bugeye in eBay".

Tsk, tsk <VBG> ! ! !
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"It was running when I parked it."
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==================================================================
-----Original Message-----
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ebay number 230973883586
=========================================================
On May 5, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Hal Faulkner <frog.aye@gmail.com> wrote:

> Larry,
> No idea.  Might have a better idea if you included a link or auction
number
<G>
> Hal
>
>
> On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Larry & Sandi Mller <millerls@ado13.com>
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>
> Larry Miller
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*<< $11,000.00 >>

I was gonna say $10k derf, but yours is OK.   LOL

Stuck at $ 4,550.00 with 7 days to go <G> !  I'll bet
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10 plus that one determined guy who'll get it for 10,500.




On May 6, 2013, at 10:15 AM, "\" Just Brits \" Shop" <shop@justbrits.com>
wrote:

> *<< $11,000.00 >>
>
> I was gonna say $10k derf, but yours is OK.   LOL
>
> Stuck at $ 4,550.00 with 7 days to go <G> !  I'll bet
> bidding gets 'active on last day <VBG> !
>
> Ed
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A friend that lives in socal is trying to contact the owner for a visit.

Larry Miller

On May 6, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Derf <derf247@gmail.com> wrote:

> 10 plus that one determined guy who'll get it for 10,500.
>
>
>
>
> On May 6, 2013, at 10:15 AM, "\" Just Brits \" Shop" <shop@justbrits.com>
> wrote:
>
>> *<< $11,000.00 >>
>>
>> I was gonna say $10k derf, but yours is OK.   LOL
>>
>> Stuck at $ 4,550.00 with 7 days to go <G> !  I'll bet
>> bidding gets 'active on last day <VBG> !
>>
>> Ed
>> Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com
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Should say SOCAL

On May 6, 2013, at 9:34 AM, Derf <derf247@gmail.com> wrote:

> 10 plus that one determined guy who'll get it for 10,500.
>
>
>
>
> On May 6, 2013, at 10:15 AM, "\" Just Brits \" Shop" <shop@justbrits.com>
> wrote:
>
>> *<< $11,000.00 >>
>>
>> I was gonna say $10k derf, but yours is OK.   LOL
>>
>> Stuck at $ 4,550.00 with 7 days to go <G> !  I'll bet
>> bidding gets 'active on last day <VBG> !
>>
>> Ed
>> Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com
>>
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Maybe I'm not up on current values, but that seems high to me.  If the shell
is rust free, I can see it being worth a premium, but otherwise it seems
everything on that car needs to be replaced.  At best, if the time capsule
story is true, it's a 10 yr old used car with 77k mi.on it.  Looks like the
engine may have been rebuilt at some point with all that red point, but who
knows?  A $10k buy in to start a restoration just doesn't make a lot of
economic sense to me.

 
Rick


"Madman in a death machine"
Follow My Nasty
Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo


________________________________
From: "Just Brits " Shop" <shop@justbrits.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye on ebay.
*<< $11,000.00 >>

I was gonna say $10k derf, but yours is OK.   LOL

Stuck at
$ 4,550.00 with 7 days to go <G> !  I'll bet
bidding gets 'active on last day
<VBG> !

Ed
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I saw a nice Bugeye for sale yesterday at the Solon OH British Car show. He
was asking 17,900. I think he was charging a premium for the eyeballs
painted on the headlights. 

Dave in Kent OH


-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of HealeyRick
Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 2:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye on ebay.

Maybe I'm not up on current values, but that seems high to me.  If the shell
is rust free, I can see it being worth a premium, but otherwise it seems
everything on that car needs to be replaced.  At best, if the time capsule
story is true, it's a 10 yr old used car with 77k mi.on it.  Looks like the
engine may have been rebuilt at some point with all that red point, but who
knows?  A $10k buy in to start a restoration just doesn't make a lot of
economic sense to me.

 
Rick


"Madman in a death machine"
Follow My Nasty
Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo


________________________________
From: "Just Brits " Shop" <shop@justbrits.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye on ebay.
*<< $11,000.00 >>

I was gonna say $10k derf, but yours is OK.   LOL

Stuck at
$ 4,550.00 with 7 days to go <G> !  I'll bet bidding gets 'active on last
day <VBG> !

Ed
Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com

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Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 HEAD
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What is the perferred casting number for  1275 head$

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From: Jay Fishbein <jfishbein@snet.net>
Date: Mon, 6 May 2013 19:36:33 -0700
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I agree with Rick.

The car appears to be solid and very complete and original but IMO the bidding
is bumping up against it's value.

$10,000 is a substantial amount of money for an (allegedly) rust-free tub and
original parts reference.

Jay

On May 6, 2013, at 11:28 AM, HealeyRick <healeyrick@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Maybe I'm not up on current values, but that seems high to me.  If the
shell
> is rust free, I can see it being worth a premium, but otherwise it seems
> everything on that car needs to be replaced.   ....  A $10k buy in to start
a restoration just doesn't make a lot of
> economic sense to me.
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> Stuck at
> $ 4,550.00 with 7 days to go <G> !  I'll bet
> bidding gets 'active on last day
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I have a new after market wiring harness which has a starter relay on the fuse panel. Do I still need the starter solenoid/relay that is mounted on the firewall, also? Are they performing the same function? I'm confused. Any thoughts? Thanks 


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Monte,

The relay in your harness is probably not capable of carrying the load of 
your starter motor.  Most automotive relays are rated 30 amps or less and 
your starter solenoid should carry 100-200 amps or more to actually power 
the starter motor.  That being the case you will need to connect the relay 
to the solenoid not the starter.  In the case that you have a modern starter 
it may have a built in solenoid and you could use the relay in your harness 
to activate the built in solenoid.


----- Original Message ----- 
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Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 8:52 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Starter circuit question


I have a new after market wiring harness which has a starter relay on the 
fuse panel. Do I still need the starter solenoid/relay that is mounted on 
the firewall, also? Are they performing the same function? I'm confused. Any 
thoughts? Thanks


Monty Love
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The 12G 940 is "the best", but the 12G 1316 is really the same and just as
good after you plug the air pump holes. 
 
Ron Soave
Roscoe, IL


"It only
goes one way."
"Pay it forward."


>________________________________
> From:
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>To: Spridget
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>Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 4:57 PM
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> 
>
>What is the perferred casting number for  1275
head$
>
>Larry Miller
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Hi All,
It is time for the Cystic Fibrosis walk-a-thon again. My grandson,
Cayden, has Cystic fibrosis and he is now 5 years old. His parents are
doing an amazing job of caring for him, including frequent trips to
Children's Hospital of Philadelphia. But no kid should have to put up with
the treatments he takes daily. In addition to the meds, he has a little
vest that vibrates his chest to knock the phlegm loose. When he gets a
cold, it means a stay in the hospital and usually a PICC
line<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripherally_inserted_central_catheter>so
he can have intravenous antibiotics.
I am not asking for help for my family. All of the donations go to the
national CF organization, not to us.
Please take a look at this link.
http://tinyurl.com/cov2lzj

Please go to the site and donate anything. Even $5 donations will help.
Amazing progress has been made in finding a cure, just in the last year or
two. They will eventually wipe this thing out...with your help.

Thanks,
Allen Hefner
Norristown, PA

*Current:*
2006 Chebbie
*Former:*
1963 Sunbeam Alpine Series III
1967 Triumph TR4A IRS
1964 VW Type I
1967 VW Type II
1967 Rover 2000TC
1977 MG Midget
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I don't like using the forum to sell stuff but I have listed this twice on
e-Bay at a higher price without results.B  I hate to see it get wasted.B  Is
anyone interested?B  Give me a personal e-mail at doug_altman@yahoo.com.B 
Thanks.
Cylinder Head Assembly - for stock BMC A-Series A35
948cc 4-cylinder
engine.B  Casting number
05 Mowog 2A629 30L.B  Completely
re-machined &
refurbished.B  Includes re-ground
valves, new springs, head & intake/exhaust
gaskets, head bolts, nuts, &
washers.B  Use your own rocker arms, shaft,
&
caps.B  $150.00 plus shipping.B  FedEx shipping in continental US anywhere
from $25-$50 depending upon location shipped.B  I bought it a few years ago
from a fellow lister and have not needed
to install it on my 1959
Austin-Healey Mark 1 bBugeyeb Sprite.B 
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John Gunnell "Gunner" spoke at the Spridget 50th in a sweltering 
Siebkins tavern in Elkhart Lake last year.

He just posted this.... and... well.... it's "interesting" as my 
sister-in-law says somewhat pejoratively... The craftsmanship is 
commendable. What say you all?


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Um, er, well, um, err, well. I like 40MPG tho!!

Larry

On May 10, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Peter Caldwell <peter@nosimport.com> wrote:

> John Gunnell "Gunner" spoke at the Spridget 50th in a sweltering Siebkins
tavern in Elkhart Lake last year.
>
> He just posted this.... and... well.... it's "interesting" as my
sister-in-law says somewhat pejoratively... The craftsmanship is commendable.
What say you all?
>
>
>
<http://www.gunnersgreatgarage.com/category/news/>http://www.gunnersgreatgara
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>
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Nice workmanship . . . that's all I can say. 25 to 40 mpg by adding 
tail fins and changing the color? Wonder how much the color change contributes?


At 10:36 AM 5/10/2013, Peter Caldwell wrote:
>John Gunnell "Gunner" spoke at the Spridget 50th in a sweltering 
>Siebkins tavern in Elkhart Lake last year.
>
>He just posted this.... and... well.... it's "interesting" as my 
>sister-in-law says somewhat pejoratively... The craftsmanship is 
>commendable. What say you all?
>

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I've never actually checked the mileage on my Midget, but doesn't 25 sound a
bit low? The article has an amazing lack of details on what was actually done
to the car. The fins don't necessarily look out of place and they do lend it a
bit of an Alpine / Tiger look.  That bulge on the hood just strikes me as
weird, though. Doesn't pick up on any other cue from elsewhere on the body, so
kind of feels wrong there. The hood bulge is made of a "fiberglass-like
material" - what could that be, bondo? 
 
But hey, he didn't build it for me.
If he loves it, more power to him. I just think it's cool when anybody takes a
vehicle (especially one that has been given up on and is rotting away) and
turns it into their own interpretation of the best it can be. 
 
 - David
From: Peter Caldwell <peter@nosimport.com>
To: spridgets@autox.team.net 
Sent:
Friday, May 10, 2013 10:36 AM
Subject: [Spridgets] Midget-ish


John Gunnell
"Gunner" spoke at the Spridget 50th in a sweltering 
Siebkins tavern in
Elkhart Lake last year.

He just posted this.... and... well.... it's
"interesting" as my 
sister-in-law says somewhat pejoratively... The
craftsmanship is 
commendable. What say you all?
<http://www.gunnersgreatgarage.com/category/news/>http://www.gunnersgreatgara
ge.com/category/news/



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Depends on how it's tuned. He did say he made it a one carb, instead of two, I
get around 25, but I have a slightly hopped up engine.

Larry

On May 10, 2013, at 13:00 PM, David Booker <tncarnut1@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I've never actually checked the mileage on my Midget, but doesn't 25 sound
a
> bit low? The article has an amazing lack of details on what was actually
done
> to the car. The fins don't necessarily look out of place and they do lend it
a
> bit of an Alpine / Tiger look.  That bulge on the hood just strikes me as
> weird, though. Doesn't pick up on any other cue from elsewhere on the body,
so
> kind of feels wrong there. The hood bulge is made of a "fiberglass-like
> material" - what could that be, bondo?
>
> But hey, he didn't build it for me.
> If he loves it, more power to him. I just think it's cool when anybody takes
a
> vehicle (especially one that has been given up on and is rotting away) and
> turns it into their own interpretation of the best it can be.
>
> - David
> From: Peter Caldwell <peter@nosimport.com>
> To: spridgets@autox.team.net
> Sent:
> Friday, May 10, 2013 10:36 AM
> Subject: [Spridgets] Midget-ish
>
>
> John Gunnell
> "Gunner" spoke at the Spridget 50th in a sweltering
> Siebkins tavern in
> Elkhart Lake last year.
>
> He just posted this.... and... well.... it's
> "interesting" as my
> sister-in-law says somewhat pejoratively... The
> craftsmanship is
> commendable. What say you all?
>
<http://www.gunnersgreatgarage.com/category/news/>http://www.gunnersgreatgara
> ge.com/category/news/
>
>
>
> Peter C
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Not my cup of tea, but looks very well done.


Sent from my keyboard

On May 10, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Peter Caldwell <peter@nosimport.com> wrote:

> John Gunnell "Gunner" spoke at the Spridget 50th in a sweltering Siebkins
tavern in Elkhart Lake last year.
>
> He just posted this.... and... well.... it's "interesting" as my
sister-in-law says somewhat pejoratively... The craftsmanship is commendable.
What say you all?
>
>
>
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I guess this evokes the question: "Why buy a Sprite."

He obviously just wants to express himself through custom bodywork which for
me is not as impressive as a body man who has the skills to do perfect metal
work for a restoration.

The further question is whether these creations and their associated mods are
done in the spirit of a Spridget.

This one is not.

But bottom line, it is his car and he is free to do whatever he wants with it.
He just shouldn't expect to get $10 grand or whatever when he is ready to
"move on".

Jay

On May 10, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net> wrote:

> Not my cup of tea, but looks very well done.
>
>
>> John Gunnell "Gunner" spoke at the Spridget 50th in a sweltering Siebkins
> tavern in Elkhart Lake last year.
>>
>> He just posted this.... and... well.... it's "interesting" as my
> sister-in-law says somewhat pejoratively... The craftsmanship is
commendable.
> What say you all?

>
<http://www.gunnersgreatgarage.com/category/news/>http://www.gunnersgreatgara
ge.com/category/news/
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Just as there was a bad batch of black rotors several years ago there 
now seems to be a bad batch of condensers out there.  How do you tell 
the good from the bad?

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Hey group, who is going to the Dixon, CA show this year?

We are going up from
Orange County to join in the fun.  Hope some of you can make it.  Stop by our
big red(?) tent and say high.
The 2013 Annual All British Motor Vehicle Show
and Swap Meet  May 19th, 2013.
Dixon Fairgrounds - Dixon, CA
http://www.ubscc.org/CarShow.htm


Steve Christiansen
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I don't think there was ever a bad batch of rotors.

I think the original Lucas rotors were marginal, and combined with modern
high output ignition coils (or an MSD box) then they arc through and fail.

This outfit makes a new rotor that is much better.
http://www.advanceddistributors.com/

Perhaps they have a better condenser solution as well

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Martyn Ridley
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 4:43 PM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Bad batch of Condensers

Just as there was a bad batch of black rotors several years ago there 
now seems to be a bad batch of condensers out there.  How do you tell 
the good from the bad?

Cheers,
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Martyn,

You can measure the condensors with a capacitance meter.  Typically
automotive condensors are about 0.2-0.3 uf.

Assuming that one mode of failure is that they short internally, then you
can just put the multi-meter on 
continuity check and see if the condensor is shorted. 

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Martyn Ridley
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 4:43 PM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Bad batch of Condensers

Just as there was a bad batch of black rotors several years ago there now
seems to be a bad batch of condensers out there.  How do you tell the good
from the bad?

Cheers,
Martyn
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Not mine:

 

http://raleigh.craigslist.org/atq/3795202483.html
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WAY TOO MANY ZERO'S

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$17,601 and 52 bids.  Shows what I know.


 
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Maybe I'm not up on current values, but that
seems high to me.  If the shell is rust free, I can see it being worth a
premium, but otherwise it seems everything on that car needs to be replaced. 
At best, if the time capsule story is true, it's a 10 yr old used car with 77k
mi.on it.  Looks like the engine may have been rebuilt at some point with all
that red point, but who knows?  A $10k buy in to start a restoration just
doesn't make a lot of economic sense to me.

 
Rick


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 From: "Just Brits " Shop"
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Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013
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Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye on ebay.
 

*<< $11,000.00 >>

I was
gonna say $10k derf, but yours is OK.   LOL

Stuck at $ 4,550.00 with 7 days
to go <G> !  I'll bet
bidding gets 'active on last day <VBG> !

Ed
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If you look at the bidding by the second highest bidder, in a matter of  
minutes, he was unsure whether he wanted to buy the car for $8,500 or  $17,500

On the one hand, assuming this car needs no bodywork  other than stripping and 
painting, I suppose one could justify the price  compared to one that needed a 
general Sprite body restoration, but I am  still astounded by the final price.

 jay




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$17,601 and 52 bids.  Shows what I know.



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My buddy tried all last week to get a look at this car. The person selling it
had one excuse after another as to why it was never possible. I almost choked
on my donut when I saw the final price.

Larry Miller

On May 14, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Jay <jfishbein@snet.net> wrote:

> If you look at the bidding by the second highest bidder, in a matter of
> minutes, he was unsure whether he wanted to buy the car for $8,500 or
$17,500
>
> On the one hand, assuming this car needs no bodywork  other than stripping
and
> painting, I suppose one could justify the price  compared to one that needed
a
> general Sprite body restoration, but I am  still astounded by the final
price.
>
> jay
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: HealeyRick <healeyrick@yahoo.com>
> To: "Just Brits " Shop" <shop@justbrits.com>; "spridgets@autox.team.net"
> <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, May 14, 2013 7:16:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye on ebay.
>
> $17,601 and 52 bids.  Shows what I know.
>
>
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Methinks someone got carried away. Knowing the amount of work that it takes
just too replace all of the rubber (BTDT), you don't know if the engine even
turns over, I'd say someone just got the proverbial 'Pig in a Poke'
JMHO


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
AN5L8016




$17,601 and 52 bids.  Shows what I know.



Rick


"Madman in a death
machine"
Follow My Nasty Boy Build:  http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo
________________________________
 From: HealeyRick <healeyrick@yahoo.com>
To:
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net"
<spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2013 2:28 PM
Subject: Re:
[Spridgets] Bugeye on ebay.



Maybe I'm not up on current values, but that
seems high to me.  If the shell is rust free, I can see it being worth a
premium, but otherwise it seems everything on that car needs to be replaced.
At best, if the time capsule story is true, it's a 10 yr old used car with
77k
mi.on it.  Looks like the engine may have been rebuilt at some point with all
that red point, but who knows?  A $10k buy in to start a restoration just
doesn't make a lot of economic sense to me.


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First off a thanks to all those who responded.

In all my (many) years I had not experienced failures like this.  It 
appears that a batch of orange wire units are faulty.  We (my friends 
and I) have experienced 3 in the past 6 months - all recent purchases.

I did get (yes, orange wire) good units from Advanced Distributors. We 
will see. (My last orange wire unit worked for most of last season 
before quitting this spring).

I am still suspect of all orange wire condensers and so keep a couple of 
old (black wire) units in the car just in case.  My Moss supplier points 
out that all these parts come from the same place so its best to wait 
till the current batch is used up.

As for electronic ignition, I tried it back in the 70s (Mobelec and 
Pirranah) but found it was quasi reliable.  I'm sure things have 
improved (witness my British Honda) but I have have heard stories of 
Protronics issues.  And, I was advised by Advanced Distributors to stick 
with points.

So my next step is to check with my English suppliers to see if they 
have non-orange wire condensers.  I will keep the list informed.

Cheers,
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I wonder if anyone has the specs for this condensor...  Perhaps there is a
replacement application for them??

Cheers!
Jimindodgecity

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Martyn Ridley <ridleymj@brant.net> wrote:

> First off a thanks to all those who responded.
>
> In all my (many) years I had not experienced failures like this.  It
> appears that a batch of orange wire units are faulty.  We (my friends and
> I) have experienced 3 in the past 6 months - all recent purchases.
>
> I did get (yes, orange wire) good units from Advanced Distributors. We
> will see. (My last orange wire unit worked for most of last season before
> quitting this spring).
>
> I am still suspect of all orange wire condensers and so keep a couple of
> old (black wire) units in the car just in case.  My Moss supplier points
> out that all these parts come from the same place so its best to wait till
> the current batch is used up.
>
> As for electronic ignition, I tried it back in the 70s (Mobelec and
> Pirranah) but found it was quasi reliable.  I'm sure things have improved
> (witness my British Honda) but I have have heard stories of Protronics
> issues.  And, I was advised by Advanced Distributors to stick with points.
>
> So my next step is to check with my English suppliers to see if they have
> non-orange wire condensers.  I will keep the list informed.
>
> Cheers,
> Martyn
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My blue car is now for sale, $35,000. All original 61, second owner. rebuilt
running gear, engine/trans concours with 1 1/4" H1 carbs, close rato
smoothcase 
tranny.  Light surface rust in engine compartment, no body rust.
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The car does look very original.  
Except for the fact that the engine is red.

It is not replacing the rubber that is the issue, it's re-chroming
everything.
Heck, all the guage surrounds are rusted.

It's the straight bodywork that makes it so desirable, and rightly so.

Price is reasonable.  Old Fiat 500s are fetching $25k+ at auction.
And I think tired old Sprites are worth more than restored Fiat 500's

If I wanted to restore another then this would be the car I would buy.

Also - I guarantee that the generator/regulator does not function on that
car...
...AND this IS the reason it was parked back in 1968. 

    

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Haynes
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Methinks someone got carried away. Knowing the amount of work that it takes
just too replace all of the rubber (BTDT), you don't know if the engine even
turns over, I'd say someone just got the proverbial 'Pig in a Poke'
JMHO


$17,601 and 52 bids.  Shows what I know.
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My $25.00 (inflation) <G> !

<< On 5/14/2013 10:02 PM, Dean Hedin wrote:

It is not replacing the rubber that is the issue, it's re-chroming everything. >>

One UN-mentioned item (which surprises me) is what seems to be an ORIGINAL
grill ! ! !  At the price of things today IF you found one already re-chromed is
probably would run a 1/4 price of the Bugeye <G> ! !

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<< On 5/14/2013 8:43 PM, dwramsey@att.net wrote:

<< close rato smoothcase tranny. >>

Are they listed on BMIHT Cert, Crash ? ? ?

<< Light surface rust in engine compartment, no body rust. >>

The dumbest on newbie Spridget-would-be buyers would know THAT
is not "original".

Best price would only be in $25,000.00 range.  Sorry.

LOL ! ! !

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Promised I would update the list.  If you have an orange wire condenser, 
think about it.  Yes, its more money - but who wants to spend the 
afternoon waiting for the wrecker to tow you home.

Cheers,

Martyn,

We dismantled orange wired ones from four different manufacturers, they 
had between a metre & 1.5 metres of packing , O.E. Lucas & my yellow 
ones have 3.0 metres.They are #6.95 each.



Regards

Martin Jay
Distributor Doctor Ltd
01398 361 678

www.distributordoctor.com
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Gold or chrome arrow?

> My blue car is now for sale, $35,000. All original 61, second owner. rebuilt
> running gear, engine/trans concours with 1 1/4" H1 carbs, close rato
> smoothcase 
> tranny.  Light surface rust in engine compartment, no body rust.
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OK, so my orange wire condenser was not the cause of the current 
problem.  The coil let me down.  I should have known.  New distributor, 
new regulator,newly rebuilt generator, new cap and leads, and one 
replacement coil, not new.

I'm still ordering new condensers from the UK and will get a spare (new) 
coil.

And all this because the car was running rich.

Cheers,
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Martin,
         I forwarded your comments below to Jeff Schlemmer at 
Advanced Distributors. (he made a worthy presentation at the Midget 
50th at Elkhart Lake last year, and is a Spridget owner)

         Here is his response:
Peter, I'd be happy if you could post my reply to this thread...

Its not about length, its about microfarads and bleed-down rate, as 
well as internal shorts.  I just spent hours evaluating condensers 
for Moss, including Martin's version.  The tell-tale sign that a 
condenser will live a short life is limited (or no) bleed-down of 
stored voltage.  That is where a couple manufacturers of (orange, 
black, red, and green wire) condensers go wrong.  I personally chose 
to use orange wire on my condensers, and they are made properly, as 
are Martin's condensers, and a couple others.  There are at least 9 
versions in current production.
Jeff Schlemmer
Advanced Distributors



At 10:21 AM 5/15/2013, Martyn Ridley wrote:
>Promised I would update the list.  If you have an orange wire 
>condenser, think about it.  Yes, its more money - but who wants to 
>spend the afternoon waiting for the wrecker to tow you home.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Martyn,
>
>We dismantled orange wired ones from four different manufacturers, 
>they had between a metre & 1.5 metres of packing , O.E. Lucas & my 
>yellow ones have 3.0 metres.They are #6.95 each.
>
>
>
>Regards
>
>Martin Jay
>Distributor Doctor Ltd
>01398 361 678
>
>www.distributordoctor.com
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From: Gerard <pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.com>
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Ed,

I have 3 or 4 of those original grilles, and in as good or better shape.
Didn't know I was sitting on a 'goldmine' LOL

Gerard

On May 15, 2013, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request@autox.team.net wrote:

> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 02:58:01 -0500
> From: "\" Just Brits \" Shop" <shop@justbrits.com>
> To: spridgets@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye on ebay
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>
> My $25.00 (inflation) <G> !
>
> << On 5/14/2013 10:02 PM, Dean Hedin wrote:
>
> It is not replacing the rubber that is the issue, it's re-chroming
everything. >>
>
> One UN-mentioned item (which surprises me) is what seems to be an ORIGINAL
> grill ! ! !  At the price of things today IF you found one already
re-chromed is
> probably would run a 1/4 price of the Bugeye <G> ! !
>
>  Ed
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Working on a sprite that has the early style top frame in the rear and the
later 
front windscreen/roll-up windows. Is there something that connects the
two 
frames together? Or do you just stow the top with the front still on and
the two 
piece rear bows separate? 
        Crash
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Haven't seen any chatter about Import Carlisle, this weekend and was
wondering who all is planning to be there and whether or not any sort of
meeting/gathering is planned.

I was going to haul a '76 Midget shell down there, but I chickened out.
I'll try to move it via Craig's List, before (very reluctantly) consigning
it to the crusher.

 

Anyway, I'll be arriving with my Tartan Red '72 Midget somewhere around
mid-day, tomorrow.  Hope to see some of yinz there.

 

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*All Clear on Interstate 81 through south central Pennsylvania*
**
*All District 8*
Southbound Interstate 81 at Exit 70 approaching Harrisburg in Dauphin
County was reopened to traffic at about 7:35 this evening. Northbound I-81
approaching the Harrisburg area was reopened to traffic at I-81 Exit 59 in
Cumberland County at 7 p.m. this evening. This means that all of I-81 is
now clear for traffic through the Harrisburg area.

A fiery tanker crash shortly after 6 a.m. on Thursday, May 9, on the ramp
from northbound I-81 to westbound Route 22/322 closed the ramp and the
bridge that carries eastbound Route 22 over I-81 in the Exit 67 interchange
and also forced the closure of both directions of I-81 that pass underneath
those bridges. The spans of the eastbound Route 22 bridge that passed over
I-81 have been removed, making it safe to reopen traffic on I-81. The deck
of the ramp where the tanker truck overturned needs to be replaced, but
this can happen later, while I-81 is open to traffic. Protective shielding
has been installed under this bridge to protect motorists.

To help deal with traffic congestion after the fire closed I-81 on
Thursday, the Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission waived its tolls between its
Carlisle interchange and Harrisburg East interchange to utilize this part
of Interstate 76 as an I-81 detour. Now that I-81 has been reopened, this
waiver will end at midnight tonight. At midnight, the Pennsylvania Turnpike
Commission will restore tolls for trips for the Harrisburg East Interchange
to the Carlisle Interchange (and the reverse trip).
The Pennsylvania Department of Transportation thanks you for your patience
and your cooperation.
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Planning on Friday and Saturday. Looking forward to some Seminars.

Jeff

Sent from my iPhone

On May 16, 2013, at 3:37 PM, "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz@hky.com> wrote:

> Haven't seen any chatter about Import Carlisle, this weekend and was
> wondering who all is planning to be there and whether or not any sort of
> meeting/gathering is planned.
>
> I was going to haul a '76 Midget shell down there, but I chickened out.
> I'll try to move it via Craig's List, before (very reluctantly) consigning
> it to the crusher.
>
>
>
> Anyway, I'll be arriving with my Tartan Red '72 Midget somewhere around
> mid-day, tomorrow.  Hope to see some of yinz there.
>
>
>
> Bud Osbourne
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See you there.

Bud, please email me your vendor stall number. I cannot seem to find the old
email you sent.

Howard

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On May 16, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Jeff Laptop <jwagaman1@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Planning on Friday and Saturday. Looking forward to some Seminars.
>
> Jeff
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 16, 2013, at 3:37 PM, "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz@hky.com> wrote:
>
>> Haven't seen any chatter about Import Carlisle, this weekend and was
>> wondering who all is planning to be there and whether or not any sort of
>> meeting/gathering is planned.
>>
>> I was going to haul a '76 Midget shell down there, but I chickened out.
>> I'll try to move it via Craig's List, before (very reluctantly) consigning
>> it to the crusher.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyway, I'll be arriving with my Tartan Red '72 Midget somewhere around
>> mid-day, tomorrow.  Hope to see some of yinz there.
>>
>>
>>
>> Bud Osbourne
>> ------------------------
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From: Linda Grunthaner <grunthaner@gmail.com>
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OSHIT i was so busy at work this year I missed it?
Lin


On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Howie <miniac7@aol.com> wrote:

> See you there.
>
> Bud, please email me your vendor stall number. I cannot seem to find the
> old
> email you sent.
>
> Howard
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 16, 2013, at 10:23 PM, Jeff Laptop <jwagaman1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Planning on Friday and Saturday. Looking forward to some Seminars.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On May 16, 2013, at 3:37 PM, "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz@hky.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Haven't seen any chatter about Import Carlisle, this weekend and was
> >> wondering who all is planning to be there and whether or not any sort of
> >> meeting/gathering is planned.
> >>
> >> I was going to haul a '76 Midget shell down there, but I chickened out.
> >> I'll try to move it via Craig's List, before (very reluctantly)
> consigning
> >> it to the crusher.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Anyway, I'll be arriving with my Tartan Red '72 Midget somewhere around
> >> mid-day, tomorrow.  Hope to see some of yinz there.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bud Osbourne
> >> ------------------------
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Yep.

BUT Lin, MW also ! !    LMAO
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"You snooze, you lose". ;)  For Sprigeteers, it was a target-rich
environment, with a lot of Spridget stuff on hand.  Not a lot of Spridgets
were seen on the show field, if I recall correctly (I spent only enough time
to park my Midget there, before heading over to the swap meet area).  I have
to report that the loud "music", both live and recorded, from the near-by
stage, pretty much drove me away from the British car section of the show
field.

Bud

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net
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Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 6:04 AM
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Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Carlisle, anyone?

OSHIT i was so busy at work this year I missed it?
Lin
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Bud,

Sorry to report that I missed you both times I came by your stall. One of your
compatriots however provided me with some comic relief directed at you in your
absence.

Audi and Saab continue to be the largest groups on the show field. We had
about 12 or 13 Sprites participating in Ricks Sprite Cruise. Mine remained
home up on jack-stands.

Howard



-----Original Message-----
From: Bud Osbourne <abcoz@hky.com>
To: 'Linda Grunthaner' <grunthaner@gmail.com>; 'Howie' <miniac7@aol.com>
Cc: 'Spridgets' <Spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, May 21, 2013 6:53 am
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Carlisle, anyone?


"You snooze, you lose". ;)  For Sprigeteers, it was a target-rich
nvironment, with a lot of Spridget stuff on hand.  Not a lot of Spridgets
ere seen on the show field, if I recall correctly (I spent only enough time
o park my Midget there, before heading over to the swap meet area).  I have
o report that the loud "music", both live and recorded, from the near-by
tage, pretty much drove me away from the British car section of the show
ield.
Bud
-----Original Message-----
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o: Howie
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OSHIT i was so busy at work this year I missed it?
in
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Does anybody have a coolant crossover pipe for a 73 Midget that they would be
willing to part with.  I have unsuccessfuly searched everywhere for one to
replace my rust-pitted piece.
DickJ
In East Texas
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I must confess, The big revelation for me with Rick's latest gathering
was Jack's Merryman's tech talks.  

I had no idea that he had his hands in so many RARE vintage car
restorations.  Sebrings, Speed Wells, etc... and not only Sprites,
but other notable vintage British sports cars.

And not only cars, but he has restored alot of old vintage motorcycles
(which I found out while talking to him at the AACA museum).  This
was a special treat for me, since I had worked at a motorcycle shop
during my high school years and had worked on Triumphs' and Nortons.

Not to mention the AACA museum had a special exhibit on British motorcycles.

Jack should write a book on all that he has done.  Daniel, hook up with him
and make an effort to preserve the "secret history" of the BMC specials.
He has intimate knowledge on the factory prepared engines.
If you don't than someone else will; maybe me.    

If the only thing that happened at Rick's next gathering was an hour talk
by Jack, then I would I would gladly attend.

Fortunately Rick's event was more than this.  It was a chance to hook up 
with some cool folks of the past.   

Another cool thing that popped up was that couple that showed up at the 
Fireside mountain grill on Friday night.  I don't know who she was, but she
had a real clean Bugeye with a 1275 and a Moss supercharger. It was
unbelievable. And she was talking how she wants to make it "original"!
I think I was the only witness on that one.  Why are all the cool chicks
taken?

None-the-less, there were reasonable criticisms of the event.  
There was a lot of travel between several hotels that were in close 
proximity.  I think we would be better off to stay at one hotel in Carlise
and with some local events.  Nothing at the hotel, but perhaps some historic
tours in the area.h     

I am going to provide my suggestions to Rick and Cindy to make the 60th
a success.  Most importantly, I think a rally through the rolling hills of
central PA is in order.  How about a mileage Rally? What ar your thoughts?

Don't worry. The sixieth will be something very special.  
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TSD rally all the way, Dean. Do it!

Howard

Sent from my iPhone

On May 20, 2013, at 7:50 PM, "Dean Hedin" <dlh2001@comcast.net> wrote:

> I must confess, The big revelation for me with Rick's latest gathering
> was Jack's Merryman's tech talks.
>
> I had no idea that he had his hands in so many RARE vintage car
> restorations.  Sebrings, Speed Wells, etc... and not only Sprites,
> but other notable vintage British sports cars.
>
> And not only cars, but he has restored alot of old vintage motorcycles
> (which I found out while talking to him at the AACA museum).  This
> was a special treat for me, since I had worked at a motorcycle shop
> during my high school years and had worked on Triumphs' and Nortons.
>
> Not to mention the AACA museum had a special exhibit on British
motorcycles.
>
> Jack should write a book on all that he has done.  Daniel, hook up with him
> and make an effort to preserve the "secret history" of the BMC specials.
> He has intimate knowledge on the factory prepared engines.
> If you don't than someone else will; maybe me.
>
> If the only thing that happened at Rick's next gathering was an hour talk
> by Jack, then I would I would gladly attend.
>
> Fortunately Rick's event was more than this.  It was a chance to hook up
> with some cool folks of the past.
>
> Another cool thing that popped up was that couple that showed up at the
> Fireside mountain grill on Friday night.  I don't know who she was, but she
> had a real clean Bugeye with a 1275 and a Moss supercharger. It was
> unbelievable. And she was talking how she wants to make it "original"!
> I think I was the only witness on that one.  Why are all the cool chicks
> taken?
>
> None-the-less, there were reasonable criticisms of the event.
> There was a lot of travel between several hotels that were in close
> proximity.  I think we would be better off to stay at one hotel in Carlise
> and with some local events.  Nothing at the hotel, but perhaps some
historic
> tours in the area.h
>
> I am going to provide my suggestions to Rick and Cindy to make the 60th
> a success.  Most importantly, I think a rally through the rolling hills of
> central PA is in order.  How about a mileage Rally? What ar your thoughts?
>
> Don't worry. The sixieth will be something very special.
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On 5/21/2013 6:41 PM, Dick J wrote:
> Does anybody have a coolant crossover pipe for a 73 Midget that they would be
> willing to part with.  I have unsuccessfuly searched everywhere for one to
> replace my rust-pitted piece.
> DickJ
> In East Texas
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Dick:

I have a few. I am converting my 67 Midget vintage race car to an 
aluminum cross flow from the original down flow and have acquired a 
couple of the cross over tubes. Contact me off list and we can make 
arrangements to get one to you.

Bob
Sharpsburg, GA
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Howard,

Yes, the guys told me you had stopped by.  Very sorry I wasn't there to meet
you (and to defend myself ;)).  With that group, a thick skin is an
essential survival tool!

Bud

 

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Bud,

 

Sorry to report that I missed you both times I came by your stall. One of
your compatriots however provided me with some comic relief directed at you
in your absence.

 

Audi and Saab continue to be the largest groups on the show field. We had
about 12 or 13 Sprites participating in Ricks Sprite Cruise. Mine remained
home up on jack-stands.

 

Howard
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"Nothing there" --- Error 404, Mark ? ? ? ? ?
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the last "l" fell off


http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/3820802470.html


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Now that I can see the ad, I think Ed's original comment still applies.

 jay




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From: Mark Endicott <mark@nashvilletn.org>


the last "l" fell off


http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/3820802470.html


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> "Nothing there"
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Spelling is not his fortay

But, it HAS been washed.......   or put away wet...

Peter C


At 12:57 PM 5/23/2013, Jay wrote:
>Now that I can see the ad, I think Ed's original comment still applies.
>
>  jay
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>
>
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>________________________________
>From: Mark Endicott <mark@nashvilletn.org>
>
>
>the last "l" fell off
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>
>http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/3820802470.html
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>On 5/23/2013 12:10 PM, " Just Brits " Shop wrote:
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From: Trevor Jessie <trevor.jessie@gmail.com>
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I'm always amused by people that try to sell a car that "runs good" if it
had [insert sub $50 item here].

I'll offer him $1400 if he'll throw in the fuel pump.

-T


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter@nosimport.com> wrote:

> Spelling is not his fortay
>
> But, it HAS been washed.......   or put away wet...
>
> Peter C
>
>
>
> At 12:57 PM 5/23/2013, Jay wrote:
>
>> Now that I can see the ad, I think Ed's original comment still applies.
>>
>>  jay
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ______________________________**__
>> From: Mark Endicott <mark@nashvilletn.org>
>>
>>
>> the last "l" fell off
>>
>>
>> http://louisville.craigslist.**org/cto/3820802470.html<http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/3820802470.html>
>>
>>
>> On 5/23/2013 12:10 PM, " Just Brits " Shop wrote:
>>
>> > "Nothing there"
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Judging from the photos of the area, I would offer him $1,400 just to transact 
the deal in a public place.

 jay




________________________________
From: Trevor Jessie <trevor.jessie@gmail.com>
To: Peter Caldwell <peter@nosimport.com>; Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thu, May 23, 2013 2:44:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye For Sale Craigslist in Central KY

I'm always amused by people that try to sell a car that "runs good" if it
had [insert sub $50 item here].

I'll offer him $1400 if he'll throw in the fuel pump.

-T
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You can just hear the rust under all the bondo.. creeeak..  crackkkkk....
don't dare lift the bonnet as the rear will separate from the front.  Of
course I want it desperately but..  too far or uhh.. my brain knows that it
would take forever to get right..

Lester


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It's a Bugeye with wire wheels.   I wonder if the conversion was done
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I think it would take more than one fortay to make me think about buying that
one.


 
Rick


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________________________________
 From: Peter
Caldwell <peter@nosimport.com>
To: Jay <jfishbein@snet.net> 
Cc:
spridgets@autox.team.net 
Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 2:11 PM
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[Spridgets] Bugeye For Sale Craigslist in Central KY
 

Spelling is not his
fortay
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Kind of sad but Road & Track is predicted to disappear in 2014: 
http://tinyurl.com/nbcgrdq  It was a great magazine, but I dropped my
subscription years ago when it became more ads than content.  Still like
reading Peter Egan online, though.

 
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Leo:
Since I can't provide you with a crossover pipe, how about this.

I would be glad to send you digital photos and dimensions so you can 
have one fabricated by your local muffler shop. You could even make one 
from copper pipe or conduit if you were moderately handy and aren't 
concerned about originality. I would also be willing to send you the 
pipe from my '72 since I am rebuilding the engine and I won't need the 
pipe until the end of summer. You just have to pay shipping both ways 
and PROMISE TO RETURN IT!

Let me know if I can help.

Regards,
Bob



On 5/23/2013 2:40 PM, Bob Spruck wrote:
> Leo:
>
> Sorry, I can't seem to find another crossover pipe but will check 
> other sources.
>
> What kind of water pump pulley do you need?
>
> I have a single sheave pulley from my 1967 1275 that has the spacer, 
> two metal fan blades, and the square metal piece that insures the 90 
> degree orientation of the blades. The single sheave is for the belt 
> for the generator.
>
> I also have two double sheave pulleys that have a flat section between 
> the two V - sections. The front on these is as thick as the single 
> sheave pulley with the spacer. This pulley ran the alternator and the 
> air pump, I believe. Perhaps you can use the multi-sheave pulley 
> without the spacer, even if you don't need the air pump groove? It's 
> all in how the groove lines up with whatever the belt is driving. I 
> have seen people space the alternator forward on its brackets just to 
> line up with the groove on the pulley they had.
>
> I also have the plastic fan with its pulley on another parts car.
>
> Give me a better idea of what you need and I will send photos. Worst 
> case I will send you multiple parts and you can try them for fit.
>
> Bob
> Sharpsburg, GA
>
>
> On 5/21/2013 11:34 PM, 60bugeye@cebridge.net wrote:
>> I would be willing to buy a second one if you have one :)  You donbt 
>> also by chance have a water pump pulley, fan blade, and the spacer 
>> that goes in-between  the fan blade and pulley for a 1275 do you?
>>
>> Leo
>>
>> Leo
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Bob Spruck
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 9:39 PM
>> To: Dick J ; spridgets@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Coolant Crossover Pipe
>>
>> On 5/21/2013 6:41 PM, Dick J wrote:
>>> Does anybody have a coolant crossover pipe for a 73 Midget that they 
>>> would be
>>> willing to part with.  I have unsuccessfuly searched everywhere for 
>>> one to
>>> replace my rust-pitted piece.
>>> DickJ
>>> In East Texas
>>> ------------------------
>>>
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>> Dick:
>>
>> I have a few. I am converting my 67 Midget vintage race car to an
>> aluminum cross flow from the original down flow and have acquired a
>> couple of the cross over tubes. Contact me off list and we can make
>> arrangements to get one to you.
>>
>> Bob
>> Sharpsburg, GA
>> ------------------------
>>
>> spridgets@autox.team.net
>>
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Thanks for the help.  I've decided that making my own pipe is the easy way
out.  I currently have the system up and running with a hose looped under the
motor, and ikt seems to function fine.
Dick J
>________________________________
> From: Bob Spruck <mgmaven@bellsouth.net>
>To: 60bugeye@cebridge.net 
>Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net 
>Sent: Friday, May
24, 2013 11:52 AM
>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Coolant Crossover Pipe
>  
>
>Leo:
>Since I can't provide you with a crossover pipe, how about this.
>
>I would
be glad to send you digital photos and dimensions so you can 
>have one
fabricated by your local muffler shop. You could even make one 
>from copper
pipe or conduit if you were moderately handy and aren't 
>concerned about
originality. I would also be willing to send you the 
>pipe from my '72 since
I am rebuilding the engine and I won't need the 
>pipe until the end of
summer. You just have to pay shipping both ways 
>and PROMISE TO RETURN IT!
>
>Let me know if I can help.
>
>Regards,
>Bob
>
>
>
>On 5/23/2013 2:40 PM, Bob
Spruck wrote:
>> Leo:
>>
>> Sorry, I can't seem to find another crossover pipe
but will check 
>> other sources.
>>
>> What kind of water pump pulley do you
need?
>>
>> I have a single sheave pulley from my 1967 1275 that has the
spacer, 
>> two metal fan blades, and the square metal piece that insures the
90 
>> degree orientation of the blades. The single sheave is for the belt 
>>
for the generator.
>>
>> I also have two double sheave pulleys that have a
flat section between 
>> the two V - sections. The front on these is as thick
as the single 
>> sheave pulley with the spacer. This pulley ran the
alternator and the 
>> air pump, I believe. Perhaps you can use the
multi-sheave pulley 
>> without the spacer, even if you don't need the air
pump groove? It's 
>> all in how the groove lines up with whatever the belt is
driving. I 
>> have seen people space the alternator forward on its brackets
just to 
>> line up with the groove on the pulley they had.
>>
>> I also have
the plastic fan with its pulley on another parts car.
>>
>> Give me a better
idea of what you need and I will send photos. Worst 
>> case I will send you
multiple parts and you can try them for fit.
>>
>> Bob
>> Sharpsburg, GA
>>
>>
>> On 5/21/2013 11:34 PM, 60bugeye@cebridge.net wrote:
>>> I would be willing
to buy a second one if you have one :)  You donbt 
>>> also by chance have a
water pump pulley, fan blade, and the spacer 
>>> that goes in-between  the
fan blade and pulley for a 1275 do you?
>>>
>>> Leo
>>>
>>> Leo
>>>
>>>
-----Original Message----- From: Bob Spruck
>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013
9:39 PM
>>> To: Dick J ; spridgets@autox.team.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets]
Coolant Crossover Pipe
>>>
>>> On 5/21/2013 6:41 PM, Dick J wrote:
>>>> Does
anybody have a coolant crossover pipe for a 73 Midget that they 
>>>> would be
>>>> willing to part with.  I have unsuccessfuly searched everywhere for 
>>>>
one to
>>>> replace my rust-pitted piece.
>>>> DickJ
>>>> In East Texas
>>>>
------------------------
>>>>
>>>> spridgets@autox.team.net
>>>>
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>>>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75
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>>>
Dick:
>>>
>>> I have a few. I am converting my 67 Midget vintage race car to
an
>>> aluminum cross flow from the original down flow and have acquired a
>>>
couple of the cross over tubes. Contact me off list and we can make
>>>
arrangements to get one to you.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>> Sharpsburg, GA
>>>
------------------------
>>>
>>> spridgets@autox.team.net
>>>
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Does anybody know of a good site, other than Ebay, where I can post a spridget
race car for sale?
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<< On 5/24/2013 7:43 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote:

I won't offer who said what about that indication, what do YOU think? >>

WAY to EASY, Mark ! ! !  Just needs a Weber ! ! !  "Cures" ALL "ills", 
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Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 21:03:15 -0400
To: Mark J Bradakis <mark@bradakis.com>
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Serious air leak on the front carb.

Sent from my keyboard

On May 24, 2013, at 8:43 PM, Mark J Bradakis <mark@bradakis.com> wrote:

> So this isn't related to Spitfires, but close enough.
>
> You may have seen my post on Facebook about the Midget with the loose
carbs.
> Fixed that, still having trouble.
>
> So Ricky is Mike's full time mechanic, I just get called in once in a while
for odds
> and ends.   Ricky went to tech school, learned a lot, great worker, smart
kid.  I've
> been working on LBCs longer than he's been alive.  We had a minor
disagreement
> today.
>
> So this rough running Midget with the 1275, dual SUs.  Put your palm over
mouth
> of the front carb, the idle speeds up and smooths out.  Put your palm over
the rear
> carb, engine stumbles and dies.
>
> I won't offer who said what about that indication, what do YOU think?
>
> mjb.
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Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 20:08:13 -0500
From: Neil Anderson <neilandcustom@gmail.com>
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Start with the list you posted on, the Spridget list.  Here are two other
good ones.

http://bringatrailer.com/

http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/

Neil Anderson


On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Does anybody know of a good site, other than Ebay, where I can post a
> spridget
> race car for sale?
> Dick J
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You might try the British Car Forum or Hemmings Motor News

Jim F

-----Original Message----- 
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Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 7:58 PM
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Subject: [Spridgets] Selling Race Car

Does anybody know of a good site, other than Ebay, where I can post a 
spridget
race car for sale?
Dick J
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Dick,
  Try race-car.com and/or do a google search where I found lots of sites
________________________________
 From: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
To:
"spridgets@autox.team.net" <spridgets@autox.team.net> 
Sent: Friday, May 24,
2013 7:58 PM
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Does anybody know of a
good site, other than Ebay, where I can post a spridget
race car for sale?
Dick J
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Finally getting around to sending out some Thank You notes to folks who 
donated
during the Team.Net spring fund drive.  Only about a month and a half 
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I guess it is a good way to spend Decoration Day weekend.

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Just saw on the news about flooding in San Antonio, Texas.  Isn't  there at 
least on lister in San Antonio?  Anyone heard from him?  How  far is Brad 
in Keene from San Antonio?
 
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Keene is very north of San Antonio.  Bill in Oregon
http://www.97330.com/Keene_TX.gif

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Just saw on the news about flooding in San Antonio, Texas.  Isn't  there at 
least on lister in San Antonio?  Anyone heard from him?  How  far is Brad 
in Keene from San Antonio?
 
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Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 08:24:41 -0400
To: "WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com" <WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com>
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Brad is about 250 miles north of San Antonio.  Texas is a big place.  :-)

Sent from my keyboard

On May 26, 2013, at 5:18 AM, WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com wrote:

> Just saw on the news about flooding in San Antonio, Texas.  Isn't  there at
> least on lister in San Antonio?  Anyone heard from him?  How  far is Brad
> in Keene from San Antonio?
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Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 21:07:25 -0500
From: Brad Fornal <tequila.brad@gmail.com>
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Many thanks to you for your concern. We have arrived in Houston, and will
be back in Keene tomorrow. With 3 severe storms in the last two weeks, I am
worried about what I will find on my return



On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 6:16 AM, <corvallis@peoplepc.com> wrote:

> Keene is very north of San Antonio.  Bill in Oregon
> http://www.97330.com/Keene_TX.gif
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> ====================================================================
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>
> Just saw on the news about flooding in San Antonio, Texas.  Isn't  there at
> least on lister in San Antonio?  Anyone heard from him?  How  far is Brad
> in Keene from San Antonio?
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www.vscda.org
www.prodracing.com
http://www.mcscc.org/classifieds.php


Check
your local club's website. 

If it is a Speedwell or Huffaker car,
soavero@yahoo.com works :)
 

Ron Soave
Roscoe, IL


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"Pay it forward."


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>Does anybody know of a good site, other than Ebay, where I can post a
spridget
>race car for sale?
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I finally got around to pulling the ribcase out of the MKII, and doing a trial
disassembly/reassembly of the other, bad (first gear shredded) ribcase box.
I got all of the way to installing the two balls that are held in by the
bolt/plug from the bottom, but can't quite figure out how they go in, (in
figure f.3 of the gearbox section) I pulled the 3-4 selector rod back out, and
placing the ball into the opening, it only goes 1/2 way in. I'm not seeing it.
Do the balls go in before the rods?
Rick? Peter? anyone?


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Howdy all,

I've run into an issue with my 1997 Honda Accord coupe that I'm having a
heck of a time trying to figure out.  I'm hoping that the collective wisdom
of the list can help me figure out what is happening.

A couple of weeks ago, someone pulled out in front of me, so I had to do a
'slam on the brakes' stop.  In the past, ABS would kick in, the pedal would
judder, and the car would safely and quickly come to a stop.  This time
though, the car dove to the right and the front right wheel locked up.
 Didn't hit anything, but that was not the result I was expecting.

I've had the car since new, and it now has over 276,000 miles on it.  So I
figured that one of the calipers was sticking, and since the calipers were
original to the car, it was time to swap them out.  So I got a new set of
front calipers, plus new flexible brake lines all around and got everything
installed.  Took it on a test drive, and same thing.  Car dives to the
right, front right wheel locks up and if you don't have your hand on the
steering wheel, the wheel actually turns.   So I then tried swapping the
front wheels to see if it was a tire or wheel issue, and nothing changed.
 I then swapped the calipers, rotors and pads from side to side, and that
wasn't it either.  I got the car up off of the ground, and then did a
visual check of all of the suspension parts.  I had replaced just about
everything (lower control arms, upper control arms, tie rod ends, hubs,
bushings all the way around) back in the fall.  Nothing appeared to be
loose or out of place.

At this point, I was stumped.  I took the car to the local mechanic, and
let them have a crack at it.  They rechecked everything, and ran through
some tests of their own, but couldn't find the issue.  They thought maybe
the ball joints on the bottom of the steering knuckles were too loose, so I
had them replace those and recheck the alignment.  Alignment checked out
ok, but the car still dives to the right under hard braking.

So now I'm leaning towards master cylinder or ABS unit issue.  I don't see
any fluid leaking, but that doesn't rule out an internal issue.  I checked
the temps of the rotors with an infrared thermometer, but the difference
between the two sides was only 10 degrees F after a 20 minute drive.  The
car evidently has a split system, with the right front/left rear on one
circuit and left front/right rear on the other.

This has been one of the more difficult issues to track down.  Anyone have
any ideas or thoughts on other things to check?  Any info or help would be
much appreciated.

Greg Gowins
'69 Sprite/'97 Accord
Driftwood, TX
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From: David Booker <tncarnut1@yahoo.com>
To: Greg Gowins <cartman@rcn.com>, Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake issue on my LJC (Honda Accord)
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Greg - Sounds like maybe the ABS sensor in the FR corner is bad. Or could be
the entire ABS module at fault. '97 makes your Accords an OBDII car, so have
somebody pull the codes and see if that gives you a clue. If you don't have a
code reader, go to any Pep Boys - they'll do it for you at no charge.  
 
So,
did the ABS work on the other three wheels?
 
 - David

From: Greg Gowins
<cartman@rcn.com>
To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday, May
28, 2013 12:05 PM
Subject: [Spridgets] Brake issue on my LJC (Honda Accord)
Howdy all,

I've run into an issue with my 1997 Honda Accord coupe that I'm
having a
heck of a time trying to figure out.  I'm hoping that the collective
wisdom
of the list can help me figure out what is happening.

A couple of
weeks ago, someone pulled out in front of me, so I had to do a
'slam on the
brakes' stop.  In the past, ABS would kick in, the pedal would
judder, and the
car would safely and quickly come to a stop.  This time
though, the car dove
to the right and the front right wheel locked up.
Didn't hit anything, but
that was not the result I was expecting.

I've had the car since new, and it
now has over 276,000 miles on it.  So I
figured that one of the calipers was
sticking, and since the calipers were
original to the car, it was time to swap
them out.  So I got a new set of
front calipers, plus new flexible brake lines
all around and got everything
installed.  Took it on a test drive, and same
thing.  Car dives to the
right, front right wheel locks up and if you don't
have your hand on the
steering wheel, the wheel actually turns.  So I then
tried swapping the
front wheels to see if it was a tire or wheel issue, and
nothing changed.
I then swapped the calipers, rotors and pads from side to
side, and that
wasn't it either.  I got the car up off of the ground, and then
did a
visual check of all of the suspension parts.  I had replaced just about
everything (lower control arms, upper control arms, tie rod ends, hubs,
bushings all the way around) back in the fall.  Nothing appeared to be
loose
or out of place.

At this point, I was stumped.  I took the car to the local
mechanic, and
let them have a crack at it.  They rechecked everything, and ran
through
some tests of their own, but couldn't find the issue.  They thought
maybe
the ball joints on the bottom of the steering knuckles were too loose,
so I
had them replace those and recheck the alignment.  Alignment checked out
ok, but the car still dives to the right under hard braking.

So now I'm
leaning towards master cylinder or ABS unit issue.  I don't see
any fluid
leaking, but that doesn't rule out an internal issue.  I checked
the temps of
the rotors with an infrared thermometer, but the difference
between the two
sides was only 10 degrees F after a 20 minute drive.  The
car evidently has a
split system, with the right front/left rear on one
circuit and left
front/right rear on the other.

This has been one of the more difficult issues
to track down.  Anyone have
any ideas or thoughts on other things to check? 
Any info or help would be
much appreciated.

Greg Gowins
'69 Sprite/'97 Accord
Driftwood, TX
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To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake issue on my LJC (Honda Accord)
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I left some of the details out about my ABS troubleshooting.  I don't think
it is an ABS electrical issue, rather a hydraulic issue.  I pulled the fuse
and relay for the ABS system, to remove the computer and sensors from the
equation.  I did hook up the OBD scanner, but it didn't throw any codes.
 With the ABS system disabled, the car still dove to the right under hard
braking.  So my thoughts on the ABS issue would be related to one of the
hydraulic valves being stuck/partially blocked.


On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:21 PM, David Booker <tncarnut1@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Greg - Sounds like maybe the ABS sensor in the FR corner is bad. Or could
> be the entire ABS module at fault. '97 makes your Accords an OBDII car, so
> have somebody pull the codes and see if that gives you a clue. If you don't
> have a code reader, go to any Pep Boys - they'll do it for you at no
> charge.
>
> So, did the ABS work on the other three wheels?
>
>  - David
>
>   *From:* Greg Gowins <cartman@rcn.com>
> *To:* Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:05 PM
> *Subject:* [Spridgets] Brake issue on my LJC (Honda Accord)
>
> Howdy all,
>
> I've run into an issue with my 1997 Honda Accord coupe that I'm having a
> heck of a time trying to figure out.  I'm hoping that the collective wisdom
> of the list can help me figure out what is happening.
>
> A couple of weeks ago, someone pulled out in front of me, so I had to do a
> 'slam on the brakes' stop.  In the past, ABS would kick in, the pedal would
> judder, and the car would safely and quickly come to a stop.  This time
> though, the car dove to the right and the front right wheel locked up.
> Didn't hit anything, but that was not the result I was expecting.
>
> I've had the car since new, and it now has over 276,000 miles on it.  So I
> figured that one of the calipers was sticking, and since the calipers were
> original to the car, it was time to swap them out.  So I got a new set of
> front calipers, plus new flexible brake lines all around and got everything
> installed.  Took it on a test drive, and same thing.  Car dives to the
> right, front right wheel locks up and if you don't have your hand on the
> steering wheel, the wheel actually turns.  So I then tried swapping the
> front wheels to see if it was a tire or wheel issue, and nothing changed.
> I then swapped the calipers, rotors and pads from side to side, and that
> wasn't it either.  I got the car up off of the ground, and then did a
> visual check of all of the suspension parts.  I had replaced just about
> everything (lower control arms, upper control arms, tie rod ends, hubs,
> bushings all the way around) back in the fall.  Nothing appeared to be
> loose or out of place.
>
> At this point, I was stumped.  I took the car to the local mechanic, and
> let them have a crack at it.  They rechecked everything, and ran through
> some tests of their own, but couldn't find the issue.  They thought maybe
> the ball joints on the bottom of the steering knuckles were too loose, so I
> had them replace those and recheck the alignment.  Alignment checked out
> ok, but the car still dives to the right under hard braking.
>
> So now I'm leaning towards master cylinder or ABS unit issue.  I don't see
> any fluid leaking, but that doesn't rule out an internal issue.  I checked
> the temps of the rotors with an infrared thermometer, but the difference
> between the two sides was only 10 degrees F after a 20 minute drive.  The
> car evidently has a split system, with the right front/left rear on one
> circuit and left front/right rear on the other.
>
> This has been one of the more difficult issues to track down.  Anyone have
> any ideas or thoughts on other things to check?  Any info or help would be
> much appreciated.
>
> Greg Gowins
> '69 Sprite/'97 Accord
> Driftwood, TX
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Hi Mark,

The ball goes on the opposite side of the shift rod from the long plug. If you
have the Bentley manual, it shows a cross section in Section F, Fig F3.

HTH

Gerard

On May 28, 2013, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request@autox.team.net wrote:

> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 15:56:11 GMT
> From: "Mark Haynes" <haynes386@netzero.net>
> To: spridgets@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Ribcase reassembly question
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>
> I finally got around to pulling the ribcase out of the MKII, and doing a
trial
> disassembly/reassembly of the other, bad (first gear shredded) ribcase box.
> I got all of the way to installing the two balls that are held in by the
> bolt/plug from the bottom, but can't quite figure out how they go in, (in
> figure f.3 of the gearbox section) I pulled the 3-4 selector rod back out,
and
> placing the ball into the opening, it only goes 1/2 way in. I'm not seeing
it.
> Do the balls go in before the rods?
> Rick? Peter? anyone?
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
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There is a ball that goes between the 1/2 shaft and the 3/4 shaft and
another ball that fits between the 3/4 and the reverse shaft. These balls
keep you from being able to select 2 gears at once which would be
disastrous. There is also and interlock spacer that goes between the 1/2 and
the reverse shaft. It has the same purpose. These interlock balls and spacer
are installed as you fit the selector shafts.  I sent Mark the Gearbox
section of the manual in anther email. The interlocks  are shown in figure
F3 of the manual.
Jim

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To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Ribcase reassembly question

I finally got around to pulling the ribcase out of the MKII, and doing a
trial disassembly/reassembly of the other, bad (first gear shredded) ribcase
box.
I got all of the way to installing the two balls that are held in by the
bolt/plug from the bottom, but can't quite figure out how they go in, (in
figure f.3 of the gearbox section) I pulled the 3-4 selector rod back out,
and placing the ball into the opening, it only goes 1/2 way in. I'm not
seeing it.
Do the balls go in before the rods?
Rick? Peter? anyone?


Mark Haynes
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You might want to check the dampers as a faulty damper can influence  
braking more than might expect.  As far as the brake go you need to find a  brake 
dyno - like at an inspection test facility (UK MOT station) and see what  
numbers the brakes produce.
 
 
In a message dated 28/05/2013 17:07:18 GMT Daylight Time, cartman@rcn.com  
writes:

This has  been one of the more difficult issues to track down.  Anyone have
any  ideas or thoughts on other things to check?  Any info or help would  be
much appreciated.

Greg Gowins
'69 Sprite/'97  Accord
Driftwood, TX
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I know that they are shown (kind of) in figure f.3, my question is, when do
these go in, and do they then get captured by the selector shafts?
The figure is ambiguous at best, so they go between the 1-2 and 3-4, and
between the 3-4 and reverse. If everything is in neutral, then there should be
adequate detents to allow the next shaft to go in, correct? Then why do I see
1/2 of the ball when I put it into the hole between 1-2 & 3-4, with the 1-2 in
neutral?
At the moment, I've got 1-2 and reverse in place, but can't get the balls into
their respective holes and out of the way of the 3-4 shaft.


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
HAN6L12977
AN5L8016

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Jim Seippel" <aseippel@austin.rr.com>
To: "'Mark Haynes'" <haynes386@netzero.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Ribcase reassembly question
Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 13:56:36 -0500

There is a ball that goes between the 1/2 shaft and the 3/4 shaft and
another ball that fits between the 3/4 and the reverse shaft. These balls
keep you from being able to select 2 gears at once which would be
disastrous. There is also and interlock spacer that goes between the 1/2 and
the reverse shaft. It has the same purpose. These interlock balls and spacer
are installed as you fit the selector shafts.  I sent Mark the Gearbox
section of the manual in anther email. The interlocks  are shown in figure
F3 of the manual.
Jim

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Haynes
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:56 AM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] Ribcase reassembly question

I finally got around to pulling the ribcase out of the MKII, and doing a
trial disassembly/reassembly of the other, bad (first gear shredded) ribcase
box.
I got all of the way to installing the two balls that are held in by the
bolt/plug from the bottom, but can't quite figure out how they go in, (in
figure f.3 of the gearbox section) I pulled the 3-4 selector rod back out,
and placing the ball into the opening, it only goes 1/2 way in. I'm not
seeing it.
Do the balls go in before the rods?
Rick? Peter? anyone?


Mark Haynes
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In case you are wondering, my initial reaction was front carb lean, rear 
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Ricky said the opposite.  But he's learning.

Turns out the carbs use Grose Jets, front one glued shut, float bowl not 
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Mark,

Do you have a copy of the Haynes manual?  Believe it or not the transmission
reassembly instructions in the haynes manual are better than the factory or
Bentley manuals.  If you don't have a copy I can try to scan the appropriate
pages and send you a copy.

As a former Tech Writer I never thought I would be recommending the Haynes
manual over the factory manual.  For the most part the Haynes manual is crap,
but in this case they have better instructions.  Sheesh, what is this world
coming to.  :-)

Rick
(watching the tornado warnings on TV)

Sent from my keyboard

On May 28, 2013, at 7:35 PM, "Mark Haynes" <haynes386@netzero.net> wrote:

> I know that they are shown (kind of) in figure f.3, my question is, when do
> these go in, and do they then get captured by the selector shafts?
> The figure is ambiguous at best, so they go between the 1-2 and 3-4, and
> between the 3-4 and reverse. If everything is in neutral, then there should
be
> adequate detents to allow the next shaft to go in, correct? Then why do I
see
> 1/2 of the ball when I put it into the hole between 1-2 & 3-4, with the 1-2
in
> neutral?
> At the moment, I've got 1-2 and reverse in place, but can't get the balls
into
> their respective holes and out of the way of the 3-4 shaft.
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
> HAN6L12977
> AN5L8016
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: "Jim Seippel" <aseippel@austin.rr.com>
> To: "'Mark Haynes'" <haynes386@netzero.net>, <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Ribcase reassembly question
> Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 13:56:36 -0500
>
> There is a ball that goes between the 1/2 shaft and the 3/4 shaft and
> another ball that fits between the 3/4 and the reverse shaft. These balls
> keep you from being able to select 2 gears at once which would be
> disastrous. There is also and interlock spacer that goes between the 1/2
and
> the reverse shaft. It has the same purpose. These interlock balls and
spacer
> are installed as you fit the selector shafts.  I sent Mark the Gearbox
> section of the manual in anther email. The interlocks  are shown in figure
> F3 of the manual.
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net
> [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Haynes
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 10:56 AM
> To: spridgets@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Spridgets] Ribcase reassembly question
>
> I finally got around to pulling the ribcase out of the MKII, and doing a
> trial disassembly/reassembly of the other, bad (first gear shredded)
ribcase
> box.
> I got all of the way to installing the two balls that are held in by the
> bolt/plug from the bottom, but can't quite figure out how they go in, (in
> figure f.3 of the gearbox section) I pulled the 3-4 selector rod back out,
> and placing the ball into the opening, it only goes 1/2 way in. I'm not
> seeing it.
> Do the balls go in before the rods?
> Rick? Peter? anyone?
>
>
> Mark Haynes
> It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
> HAN6L12977
> AN5L8016
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List,
     I Just bought sight unseen a 63 that hasn't been able to run for 
more than 3 minutes for 2 years despite tons of money thrown at it.

We agreed on a price before I saw it. I drove 2-1/2 hours to Green 
Bay to see it. Bought it. Fixed it in less than 10 minutes. Offered 
to undo the sale. He declined.

So I drove it another 80 miles to the tip of Door County in Wisconsin 
(the bit that protrudes into Lake Michigan) Gave rides to many 
relatives. Then I drove it home to Madison, 5 hours; the last hour 
and a half in gale winds and some drizzle. No top installed, of course.

WHAT A FREAKING BLAST!!!!

This is not my first, or my last. Just a real joy. Somewhat original. 
Some flaws. Great driver.

Love it! It's been a whole year since I've had a driver. (still have 
a few "in the wings" as it were)

Peter C

* trans. I think I did what Frank would do.

   WWFD sticker immediately on the windshield, and another to the 
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An appropriate birthday present to yourself, Peter!



-----Original Message----- 
From: Peter Caldwell
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:28 AM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] ITIDWFWD*

List,
     I Just bought sight unseen a 63 that hasn't been able to run for
more than 3 minutes for 2 years despite tons of money thrown at it.

We agreed on a price before I saw it. I drove 2-1/2 hours to Green
Bay to see it. Bought it. Fixed it in less than 10 minutes. Offered
to undo the sale. He declined.

So I drove it another 80 miles to the tip of Door County in Wisconsin
(the bit that protrudes into Lake Michigan) Gave rides to many
relatives. Then I drove it home to Madison, 5 hours; the last hour
and a half in gale winds and some drizzle. No top installed, of course.

WHAT A FREAKING BLAST!!!!

This is not my first, or my last. Just a real joy. Somewhat original.
Some flaws. Great driver.

Love it! It's been a whole year since I've had a driver. (still have
a few "in the wings" as it were)

Peter C

* trans. I think I did what Frank would do.

   WWFD sticker immediately on the windshield, and another to the
seller.... who has a Bugeye.
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<< On 5/29/2013 10:36 AM, Larry Daniels wrote:
> An appropriate birthday present to yourself, Peter!  >>

Peter, Larry is 100% correct (as were YOU <VBJG) ! ! !

Ed

PS:  NOW ya gotta tell us WHAT you :fixed" <G> ? ! ?
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PPP

Congrats and Happy B'day!


 
Rick


"Madman in a death machine"
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So Peter... what parts are you going to pimp it out with?
-T


On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Peter Caldwell <peter@nosimport.com>wrote:

> List,
>     I Just bought sight unseen a 63 that hasn't been able to run for more
> than 3 minutes for 2 years despite tons of money thrown at it.
>
> We agreed on a price before I saw it. I drove 2-1/2 hours to Green Bay to
> see it. Bought it. Fixed it in less than 10 minutes. Offered to undo the
> sale. He declined.
>
> So I drove it another 80 miles to the tip of Door County in Wisconsin (the
> bit that protrudes into Lake Michigan) Gave rides to many relatives. Then I
> drove it home to Madison, 5 hours; the last hour and a half in gale winds
> and some drizzle. No top installed, of course.
>
> WHAT A FREAKING BLAST!!!!
>
> This is not my first, or my last. Just a real joy. Somewhat original. Some
> flaws. Great driver.
>
> Love it! It's been a whole year since I've had a driver. (still have a few
> "in the wings" as it were)
>
> Peter C
>
> * trans. I think I did what Frank would do.
>
>   WWFD sticker immediately on the windshield, and another to the
> seller.... who has a Bugeye.   ------------------------
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Even an alternator conversion?
 
 
In a message dated 29/05/2013 17:39:45 GMT Daylight Time,  
trevor.jessie@gmail.com writes:

I Just  bought sight unseen a 63 that hasn't been able to run for more
> than 3  minutes for 2 years despite tons of money thrown at  it.
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I love to hear when one of the earlier cars gets saved and returned to
service (one of these years, I promise, I WILL finish my Mk I Midget
restoration)!
So, like Ed asked: what did you have to do to get it running right?  Also,
how about some pictures, Peter?

Bud

-----Original Message-----
From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:28 AM
To: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: [Spridgets] ITIDWFWD*

List,
     I Just bought sight unseen a 63 that hasn't been able to run for more
than 3 minutes for 2 years despite tons of money thrown at it.

We agreed on a price before I saw it. I drove 2-1/2 hours to Green Bay to
see it. Bought it. Fixed it in less than 10 minutes. Offered to undo the
sale. He declined.

So I drove it another 80 miles to the tip of Door County in Wisconsin (the
bit that protrudes into Lake Michigan) Gave rides to many relatives. Then I
drove it home to Madison, 5 hours; the last hour and a half in gale winds
and some drizzle. No top installed, of course.

WHAT A FREAKING BLAST!!!!

This is not my first, or my last. Just a real joy. Somewhat original. 
Some flaws. Great driver.

Love it! It's been a whole year since I've had a driver. (still have a few
"in the wings" as it were)

Peter C

* trans. I think I did what Frank would do.

   WWFD sticker immediately on the windshield, and another to the 
seller.... who has a Bugeye.   
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Fuel line to the Facet pump was kinked.  re-routed the hose.

Pics...... someday

Peter C

At 12:12 PM 5/29/2013, Bud Osbourne wrote:
>I love to hear when one of the earlier cars gets saved and returned to
>service (one of these years, I promise, I WILL finish my Mk I Midget
>restoration)!
>So, like Ed asked: what did you have to do to get it running right?  Also,
>how about some pictures, Peter?
>
>Bud
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net
>[mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell
>Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:28 AM
>To: spridgets@autox.team.net
>Subject: [Spridgets] ITIDWFWD*
>
>List,
>      I Just bought sight unseen a 63 that hasn't been able to run for more
>than 3 minutes for 2 years despite tons of money thrown at it.
>
>We agreed on a price before I saw it. I drove 2-1/2 hours to Green Bay to
>see it. Bought it. Fixed it in less than 10 minutes. Offered to undo the
>sale. He declined.
>
>So I drove it another 80 miles to the tip of Door County in Wisconsin (the
>bit that protrudes into Lake Michigan) Gave rides to many relatives. Then I
>drove it home to Madison, 5 hours; the last hour and a half in gale winds
>and some drizzle. No top installed, of course.
>
>WHAT A FREAKING BLAST!!!!
>
>This is not my first, or my last. Just a real joy. Somewhat original.
>Some flaws. Great driver.
>
>Love it! It's been a whole year since I've had a driver. (still have a few
>"in the wings" as it were)
>
>Peter C
>
>* trans. I think I did what Frank would do.
>
>    WWFD sticker immediately on the windshield, and another to the
>seller.... who has a Bugeye.
>
>
>
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From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
To: Bud Osbourne <abcoz@hky.com>, spridgets@autox.team.net, Peter
	Caldwell <peter@nosimport.com>
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Congrats Peter.  It sounds like you channeled Frank for that fix.  Happy
Birthday. 
Mike MacLean
60 Sprite
56 BN2

--- On Wed, 5/29/13, Peter Caldwell <peter@nosimport.com> wrote:

From: Peter Caldwell <peter@nosimport.com>
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ITIDWFWD*
To: "Bud Osbourne" <abcoz@hky.com>, spridgets@autox.team.net
Date: Wednesday, May 29, 2013, 5:17 PM

Fuel line to the Facet pump was kinked.  re-routed the hose.

Pics...... someday

Peter C

At 12:12 PM 5/29/2013, Bud Osbourne wrote:
>I love to hear when one of the earlier cars gets saved and returned to
>service (one of these years, I promise, I WILL finish my Mk I Midget
>restoration)!
>So, like Ed asked: what did you have to do to get it running right?  Also,
>how about some pictures, Peter?
>
>Bud
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net
>[mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell
>Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:28 AM
>To: spridgets@autox.team.net
>Subject: [Spridgets] ITIDWFWD*
>
>List,
>      I Just bought sight unseen a 63 that hasn't been able to run for more
>than 3 minutes for 2 years despite tons of money thrown at it.
>
>We agreed on a price before I saw it. I drove 2-1/2 hours to Green Bay to
>see it. Bought it. Fixed it in less than 10 minutes. Offered to undo the
>sale. He declined.
>
>So I drove it another 80 miles to the tip of Door County in Wisconsin (the
>bit that protrudes into Lake Michigan) Gave rides to many relatives. Then I
>drove it home to Madison, 5 hours; the last hour and a half in gale winds
>and some drizzle. No top installed, of course.
>
>WHAT A FREAKING BLAST!!!!
>
>This is not my first, or my last. Just a real joy. Somewhat original.
>Some flaws. Great driver.
>
>Love it! It's been a whole year since I've had a driver. (still have a few
>"in the wings" as it were)
>
>Peter C
>
>* trans. I think I did what Frank would do.
>
>    WWFD sticker immediately on the windshield, and another to the
>seller.... who has a Bugeye.
>
>
>
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Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you.

Happy WWFD day too!!

Larry

On May 29, 2013, at 13:17 PM, Peter Caldwell <peter@nosimport.com> wrote:

> Fuel line to the Facet pump was kinked.  re-routed the hose.
>
> Pics...... someday
>
> Peter C
>
> At 12:12 PM 5/29/2013, Bud Osbourne wrote:
>> I love to hear when one of the earlier cars gets saved and returned to
>> service (one of these years, I promise, I WILL finish my Mk I Midget
>> restoration)!
>> So, like Ed asked: what did you have to do to get it running right?  Also,
>> how about some pictures, Peter?
>>
>> Bud
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net
>> [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Caldwell
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:28 AM
>> To: spridgets@autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Spridgets] ITIDWFWD*
>>
>> List,
>>     I Just bought sight unseen a 63 that hasn't been able to run for more
>> than 3 minutes for 2 years despite tons of money thrown at it.
>>
>> We agreed on a price before I saw it. I drove 2-1/2 hours to Green Bay to
>> see it. Bought it. Fixed it in less than 10 minutes. Offered to undo the
>> sale. He declined.
>>
>> So I drove it another 80 miles to the tip of Door County in Wisconsin (the
>> bit that protrudes into Lake Michigan) Gave rides to many relatives. Then
I
>> drove it home to Madison, 5 hours; the last hour and a half in gale winds
>> and some drizzle. No top installed, of course.
>>
>> WHAT A FREAKING BLAST!!!!
>>
>> This is not my first, or my last. Just a real joy. Somewhat original.
>> Some flaws. Great driver.
>>
>> Love it! It's been a whole year since I've had a driver. (still have a few
>> "in the wings" as it were)
>>
>> Peter C
>>
>> * trans. I think I did what Frank would do.
>>
>>   WWFD sticker immediately on the windshield, and another to the
>> seller.... who has a Bugeye.
>>
>>
>>
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>> No virus found in this message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 2013.0.3343 / Virus Database: 3184/6366 - Release Date: 05/29/13
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thanks to everyone who responded, especially Jim Sieppel, Gerard, and Rick
Fisk. The tranny is back together and all five gears engage just fine. Having
the Clymer and Haynes versions of the transmission section of the manual is a
big help (Thanks Rick), as was the bit of hand holding by Jim.
In the end, I installed the 3-4 rod first, and worked around that, the ball
just didn't seem to want to fit into the 1-2 detent far enough (go figure).
Nos I have a little bit of experience with it, and think that I know what I'm
doing (a little knowledge is a dangerous thing, eh?) and am ready to move
forward with the trans that needs just a bit of touching up to work well.
thanks again to all.


Mark Haynes
It only goes one way-Pay it Forward
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Maybe I missed this, if it was posted on the list....I just learned that
one of our group from long, Roger Cotting of South Lyon, MI, died awhile
back. He was one of the so-called "Ann Arbor BugEye Boys" and a decent guy.
Understand his wife is selling off a barn full of Spridget stuff, including
a couple of BE tubs.
JohnD
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Sad news.

I remember Roger from many years ago when he used to post somewhat regularly.
Last message from him was around 2007. He seemed like a great guy.

Gerard

On May 31, 2013, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request@autox.team.net wrote:

>  1. Lister Gone (JohnD)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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> Maybe I missed this, if it was posted on the list....I just learned that
> one of our group from long, Roger Cotting of South Lyon, MI, died awhile
> back. He was one of the so-called "Ann Arbor BugEye Boys" and a decent guy.
> Understand his wife is selling off a barn full of Spridget stuff, including
> a couple of BE tubs.
> JohnD
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The sale of Roger's stuff is scheduled for tomorrow.

http://www.detroittriumph.org/Events/Cotting%20Garage%20Sale.htm


Sent from my keyboard

On May 31, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Gerard <pixelsmith@gerardsgarage.com> wrote:

> Sad news.
>
> I remember Roger from many years ago when he used to post somewhat
regularly.
> Last message from him was around 2007. He seemed like a great guy.
>
> Gerard
>
> On May 31, 2013, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request@autox.team.net wrote:
>
>> 1. Lister Gone (JohnD)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 22:52:10 -0400
>> From: JohnD <johnsfolly@gmail.com>
>> To: Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: [Spridgets] Lister Gone
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>
>> Maybe I missed this, if it was posted on the list....I just learned that
>> one of our group from long, Roger Cotting of South Lyon, MI, died awhile
>> back. He was one of the so-called "Ann Arbor BugEye Boys" and a decent
guy.
>> Understand his wife is selling off a barn full of Spridget stuff,
including
>> a couple of BE tubs.
>> JohnD
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From: David Booker <tncarnut1@yahoo.com>
To: spridget <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Anybody have a top frame they want to sell?
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Frankie - Do you know if there is a top frame in among your dad's stuff that
you'll want to get rid of during the OSHIT?

Anybody else have a top frame? I
have a friend here on Long Island who needs one to fit a 1970 Midget. Let me
know.


Thanks everybody!

 - David
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Sorry, I don't have a top frame.  But that brings up a question - what
happened to the original frame?  They are listed for sale on ebay frequently
and apparently they sell.  But what happens to the old frame that requires a
replacement?  Just curious.....

Sent from my keyboard

On May 31, 2013, at 8:08 PM, David Booker <tncarnut1@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Frankie - Do you know if there is a top frame in among your dad's stuff
that
> you'll want to get rid of during the OSHIT?
>
> Anybody else have a top frame? I
> have a friend here on Long Island who needs one to fit a 1970 Midget. Let
me
> know.
>
>
> Thanks everybody!
>
> - David
> ------------------------
>
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Should be the same.

Sent from my keyboard

On May 31, 2013, at 8:53 PM, Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I have one from a 73.  Is that the same?
> Dick J
>
> From: Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net>
> To: "spridgets@autox.team.net" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 7:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Anybody have a top frame they want to sell?
>
> Sorry, I don't have a top frame.  But that brings up a question - what
> happened to the original frame?  They are listed for sale on ebay
frequently
> and apparently they sell.  But what happens to the old frame that requires
a
> replacement?  Just curious.....
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On May 31, 2013, at 8:08 PM, David Booker <tncarnut1@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Frankie - Do you know if there is a top frame in among your dad's stuff
> that
> > you'll want to get rid of during the OSHIT?
> >
> > Anybody else have a top frame? I
> > have a friend here on Long Island who needs one to fit a 1970 Midget. Let
> me
> > know.
> >
> >
> > Thanks everybody!
> >
> > - David
> > ------------------------
> >
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> Does $75 plus shipping sound OK?
> Dick J
>
> From: Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net>
> To: Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com>
> Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 8:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Anybody have a top frame they want to sell?
>
> Should be the same.
>
> Sent from my keyboard
>
> On May 31, 2013, at 8:53 PM, Dick J <lsr_man@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I have one from a 73.  Is that the same?
>> Dick J
>>
>> From: Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net>
>> To: "spridgets@autox.team.net" <spridgets@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 7:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Anybody have a top frame they want to sell?
>>
>> Sorry, I don't have a top frame.  But that brings up a question - what
>> happened to the original frame?  They are listed for sale on ebay
frequently
>> and apparently they sell.  But what happens to the old frame that requires
a
>> replacement?  Just curious.....
>>
>> Sent from my keyboard
>>
>> On May 31, 2013, at 8:08 PM, David Booker <tncarnut1@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Frankie - Do you know if there is a top frame in among your dad's stuff
>> that
>> > you'll want to get rid of during the OSHIT?
>> >
>> > Anybody else have a top frame? I
>> > have a friend here on Long Island who needs one to fit a 1970 Midget.
Let
>> me
>> > know.
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks everybody!
>> >
>> > - David
>> > ------------------------
>> >
>> > spridgets@autox.team.net
>> >
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