From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 1 07:35:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 793C842A0F for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 07:35:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1001342A0A for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 07:27:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm26.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jun 2013 13:22:58 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.229] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jun 2013 13:22:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1038.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jun 2013 13:22:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 54463 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Jun 2013 13:22:58 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370092978; bh=1Kq7v4IKDpf5iv6o6Y9X4ggk1n6dxgKwgPDct68i1Po=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=D2fXyON+ZOWkoIXZL+ObdQH48etdewzVIPIXoMz6g6R69p6CAZm+oAYLX41Veqp64KDEcyj3gS7iiLNNbrA5xm8qxy6neThmrqy7FtIHzzx+O2qNiItsvUBGroxt2f1inIyXyRR6FTgGKzacifov81wL/hF2sVaUNdwA+jaNN7g= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZEd/KslBV+5nIO004QMmaD4WyGPuw9aNbvKws8qeQPd9slVkhVNch2spMdvN04Hw2iDnmojqDZ+pmcXPeyMIhA15/xNHbsSY/HlFIwQQzQ1Diuyqy/38gLKh9YPT4UYGvlj4ZJy/0MmTYEp8fF1GXt86G9+OwNazTI9ggIpTDB0=; 7_OzK2ixfG1k2Q2M7_VUaEaCu3UlRa2SVQzv_L4MTQgDsxzUHdmJYed4KgtT JwXveIdi9cH63FHQFE7uP3i4KoyN6kmYfQRHq8xklVgMeHNY07pjh68r5mPL lEDzPEIxIZU9XdSRcZn9rpVc3UcKXgP_QGO0OebeieDl7ZUb33MomVZmgZLz n45Rc25syUHo8FmqxVtkvPNEhF7.aWieKY1a.FW2zOzx_oPL0E1ZWk16Kp0P Du1_cm_YmUdN1evOKAwn_iHblr7sOwRoYoihVXU9hcC99il5TLDhasGIxM4p 4fc7bpUDlk7P9FILPOr40Vy2dQjjCHyjk5XUD3DM4TbnO9iUfdiQ76H4yCwh g8N3qGmnnXFmFMJ1XzPLzNWd00OAF6IZnW2yzsPjZsdoxyKsh9PmXDH8Gpq6 NKFn0Pidg057cVvAtpbgk1YyeVfkzWQM8ZlQFggXitoRMSevGfknSJFnoZVf a0lQizXMYjytgZdkoOdcffCDnzVkB5X2Nq9eT_GibwrxF.x_2CeFwx0RQR_R DNWRIJfqrlBdf66y4YufQ.ZtbTl8w86cQ54iLrzrtXMKI_bfRwCu1waNkfwF 5rLW6lIQ- Received: from [173.68.115.106] by web141401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 06:22:58 PDT UmljayAtIFRoYXQgaXMgYSBnb29kIHF1ZXN0aW9uLiBJIGhhdmUgbm8gaWRlYSB3aHkgaGUgbmVlZHMgb25lLiBUaGUgY2FyIGluIHF1ZXN0aW9uIGlzIGEgYmxhY2sgcGxhdGUgQ2FsaWZvcm5pYSBjYXIgdGhhdCBpcyBhbGwgb3JpZ2luYWwsIG5ldmVyIHRvdWNoZWQuIE1heWJlIHRoZSBoaW5nZXMgcnVzdGVkPyBJJ20ganVzdCBwYXNzaW5nIGFsb25nIGhpcyBxdWVyeS4gCgoKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogUmljayBGaXNrIDxyZWZpc2tAY2hhcnRlcm1pLm5ldD4BMAEBAQE- References: <1370045298.56979.YahooMailNeo@web141406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 06:22:58 -0700 (PDT) From: David Booker To: Rick Fisk , "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Anybody have a top frame they want to sell? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Rick - That is a good question. I have no idea why he needs one. The car in question is a black plate California car that is all original, never touched. Maybe the hinges rusted? I'm just passing along his query. ________________________________ From: Rick Fisk To: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Anybody have a top frame they want to sell? Sorry, I don't have a top frame. But that brings up a question - what happened to the original frame? They are listed for sale on ebay frequently and apparently they sell. But what happens to the old frame that requires a replacement? Just curious..... Sent from my keyboard On May 31, 2013, at 8:08 PM, David Booker wrote: > Frankie - Do you know if there is a top frame in among your dad's stuff that > you'll want to get rid of during the OSHIT? > > Anybody else have a top frame? I > have a friend here on Long Island who needs one to fit a 1970 Midget. Let me > know. > > > Thanks everybody! > > - David > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 1 11:29:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149ED42A19 for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 11:29:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm31-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm31-vm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15F004281F for ; Sat, 1 Jun 2013 11:21:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.145] by nm31.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jun 2013 17:17:35 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.230] by tm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jun 2013 17:17:35 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1039.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Jun 2013 17:17:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 88256 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Jun 2013 17:17:35 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370107055; bh=h4NyEEYTRO1tmI1y7CuoyOvUJO3JzZGwdNxWSwuBiqo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FA8eaC/75qGYIjVNxExEdFIZkh3soDAjZM2iLEtYlSuEN0oGzldlg+NV7TmFBgPgyvSqALpq3DU1tPX3KeSt8xvS2/HQefrRVIIjrJozzw2w+ujze4vnOWO3W3DeKP3q8tYbvvoxHUl9UEWFAm2EFp8mVv4kunOtcVoQxU94rnA= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=d2ZwrIcgnPz616jBQQRdZsy7gGiW7R+dq8lVq+snu1bj97qTNAgD85Z8Slw1Fbk/2YX0o/9DO8pXvqizmTxfkQESOJczuJpFYVOHdfdTN8XUqojKwagHTCnP/DlzC/I+a6kV26mSbRZh5iO0hGLMi33CfuPYKWIuNtkfknFma5w=; OVqWPNPY0vjExPzLBKKruGfQtDdPzsbT41oADptlkn51MtQ8QoXIo2a4zISD Cge7J1ZKW0zxyxg7dEykGMd9RijZ7z8XQrEli_jTb74X7zQD1wATeP0RtSL. cC26X6cD6GWNZM9nHSryt1907GQvuuoRUlynXQKoOYQJc7kQGpU1bAucmPVy Z.n5yN9A4Hg82dBMBjB12qxb6w_kdnPo7H.kwXtHu5dHPKElm6iv4lsyHOr8 KNCNiDXrVWklvdPTBzd3z4jkhHtzohByxqHZ8wCzoCyS_bKZta81cOK3__DE P.HK7gNLdxJbdjAeCu3mWyl_FblpxQEPZXaZljb0ERelJ175atueTNQ.m_6I zcWks7ra5RIBhMy.HAJq8cKYCuDkeiL0njm4.j1.clcWcCgylV9mki4zB2fI P3JrjeSXLds1t50rsZ22CELZKXxvR4CChOzKssQhhz_6Zk81MxDfRIfeiqSN YxVrbArBYOXk9ymDKSBYh0msKQ0uFnVZlgM.YxNs- Received: from [68.73.97.135] by web162603.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 01 Jun 2013 10:17:34 PDT T25lIG9mIHRoZSBtaXNzaW5nIHBhcnRzIG9uIEJ1Z3N5IElJIGlzIHRoZSAxMyAxLzIiIHggNSAxLzIiIGNvdmVyIHRoYXQgZ29lcyAKb3ZlciB0aGUgUGVkYWwgQm94IG9wZW5pbmcgb24gYSBMSEQgQkUuIEl0IGFwcGVhcnMgdG8gYmUgYSBzaW1wbGUgZmxhdCBwbGF0IGFuZCAKcHJvYmFibHkgZWFzeSB0byBmYWJyaWNhdGUgYnV0IGRvZXMgYW55b25lIGhhdmUgYSBzcGFyZSBhdmFpbGFibGUgdGhhdCBhcmUgCndpbGxpbmcgdG8gcGFydCB3aXRoPyBBIHN0cmFuZ2UgdGhpbmcgdG8gYmUgbWlzc2luZyB3aGUBMAEBAQE- Date: Sat, 1 Jun 2013 10:17:34 -0700 (PDT) From: James Gruber To: Spridgets Digest Subject: [Spridgets] BE Pedal Box Cover Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net One of the missing parts on Bugsy II is the 13 1/2" x 5 1/2" cover that goes over the Pedal Box opening on a LHD BE. It appears to be a simple flat plat and probably easy to fabricate but does anyone have a spare available that are willing to part with? A strange thing to be missing when almost everything else survived attached to the car. Thanks. Jim Gruber Dayton, OH ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 2 09:14:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B564742A0E for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 09:14:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC3142728 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 09:12:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.214.32] by nm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2013 15:08:07 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.204] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2013 15:08:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jun 2013 15:08:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 93438 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Jun 2013 15:08:07 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370185687; bh=Ear+pFGrL8aaa4GZ/jwz5oA0LqO9Ds5ZFQXgs1YFQqU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=46o9VBybxc4IUGroNECzJAB/zL36KTR+FGezJEHALOiEFKK6RC2yk2pcaZeWkuqo+UMLvTirJICNjwFpGFzENr7EnF0XfPHj5oRMRCjeHG7yxmBsyYddg5iryy7dt9PnUO809rj/y9Z3XTdKY6Wtfuhhet6NVJO5RLDYgiwiLd8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=z80musmLau/F+OftvEIaobyLECn0NFllYVnrIuRr+DEwXPKL4pYjH+RweK4YTG05AdYFZGPB7dBeIyJlBpHTE2YwXQM9CXPpwKqWG4mfuy09UYJnPBUGSPzm4/FejaKFd72Tp9sO7c1pSxd+XFqWlFy9e9b6fFrdrS28T+iUZYA=; 6BzIJDLvGLKpGaw2YPhhk1t.aYZ7SG0CzWi8sew3YNFe.sp9ZJhZ_jCXGX03 zJgRPqjoxg2617xrKofAQki48YAvbPmqoiYOSqjeX1NBDO14ESzN3gfCZw2m 1JENozCfLDVVGlxT1_sm1uZE1DcuzV1anpobkGwHQuPIv.LRmSc_5j83b9TO nJQvzXq9ENYH7d3rQ2YONalGrd9DwG8FTRfFXffQceaoR._81oW3HDkFWLUI e7Jgc8nUxHPLPEw0ziAcQpXUxTrs4MKSGldDdUiKla0d4Uybr3Ecc21UOmzU rBrIWs4QRzfvDSeLuoM7za1UKTeu1Pyq3O05481vd7yKw0BPip704QQMU5u2 qNa0rpJkShvOBms78NzUWiN.KlYx8U4b82OOYXnVeFHP6fRKQGShPfGFH9HS FrN1cB6GrbUvnnYltIb5N3KudgRyRoAZWOogkKhKSyIGJN11QLVxVx2gN82F ztpqhrCUbD5XqIEVv2QCQgdKRLZkD43f5iUQw5A-- Received: from [68.73.97.135] by web162602.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 08:08:07 PDT VGhhbmtzIGFsbCBmb3IgdGhlIHJlc3BvbnNlcy7CoEZvdW5kIG9uZSBuZXcgZnJvbSBBc2hsZXkgSGludG9uIGluIHRoZSBVLksuIFRoYW5rcyBmb3IgYWxsIHRoZSByZXBsaWVzLiBUaG91Z2h0IHRoaXMgd2FzIGdvaW5nIHRvIGJlIGhhcmQgdG8gc291cmNlLsKgCsKgCk5ldyA9IG9uZSBsZXNzIHBhcnQgdG8gcmVzdG9yZSBhbmQgcmVmaW5pc2guIFRoYW5rcyBhZ2Fpbi4uATABAQEB Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 08:08:07 -0700 (PDT) From: James Gruber To: Spridgets Digest Subject: [Spridgets] Pedal Box Cover Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks all for the responses. Found one new from Ashley Hinton in the U.K. Thanks for all the replies. Thought this was going to be hard to source. New = one less part to restore and refinish. Thanks again.. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 2 11:51:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B676942A5A for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 11:51:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f45.google.com (mail-la0-f45.google.com [209.85.215.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 983CF403C7 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 11:42:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f45.google.com with SMTP id fr10so2772456lab.18 for ; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 10:37:52 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Zx8Zar59eHAXh9UQlKmlmZwI8WX9c4p4n+IM2qjOuqU=; b=i87vs+dsoV0ti4FGf/FdeRwd73WUTq+ydb1T/nXMtRUDQozh+JSJOr1FfTwsgFYeOC 8wDEBe04Gaqp6+/Kp/cOQ868CKIorV3bgjNQiGhYFng8P5QeigrK4JCji+upq3gpTfSi Qlt/wtASZiR+6oWmZe6pEFNngy2xz5xbBdVtZBlC/5aTjaXJ6k4ihoNuXLc+LB2sxbVN tdCwkfzkVVsnXyqDsjz6O1/tsbyGAfojnRTI0K1dIT15JM3beWF8GEyJKaK7ADvqXKaR ygvYlAcQthCvXqjEI5J1BX8K22r5kg1PXQtwwmYqi6sgFgobFylkOMbmwe602BOY2TwB WhqQ== Sun, 02 Jun 2013 10:37:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.82.198 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 10:37:52 -0700 (PDT) References: <1369761661.67752.YahooMailNeo@web141403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 12:37:52 -0500 From: Greg Gowins To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake issue on my LJC (Honda Accord) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Got it figured out. Nothing to do with ABS or hydraulics. The nylon in the self locking nut on the passenger side radius arm gave out, and the nut backed itself out. This allowed that side to move to the back under hard braking, and thus pulled the car to the right. You couldn't really tell anything was wrong with the car sitting there. It wasn't until I tried to move things around with a pry bar to simulate load that the issue showed its face. Oh well, $1.49 later for a couple of new nylock nuts and some Loctite for extra protection, and the car now brakes in a straight line under a panic stop with no wheel lockup. Greg Gowins '69 Sprite (and '97 Accord Coupe) Driftwood, TX On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Greg Gowins wrote: > I left some of the details out about my ABS troubleshooting. I don't > think it is an ABS electrical issue, rather a hydraulic issue. I pulled > the fuse and relay for the ABS system, to remove the computer and sensors > from the equation. I did hook up the OBD scanner, but it didn't throw any > codes. With the ABS system disabled, the car still dove to the right under > hard braking. So my thoughts on the ABS issue would be related to one of > the hydraulic valves being stuck/partially blocked. > > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:21 PM, David Booker wrote: > >> Greg - Sounds like maybe the ABS sensor in the FR corner is bad. Or >> could be the entire ABS module at fault. '97 makes your Accords an OBDII >> car, so have somebody pull the codes and see if that gives you a clue. If >> you don't have a code reader, go to any Pep Boys - they'll do it for you at >> no charge. >> >> So, did the ABS work on the other three wheels? >> >> - David >> >> *From:* Greg Gowins >> *To:* Spridgets >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:05 PM >> *Subject:* [Spridgets] Brake issue on my LJC (Honda Accord) >> >> Howdy all, >> >> I've run into an issue with my 1997 Honda Accord coupe that I'm having a >> heck of a time trying to figure out. I'm hoping that the collective >> wisdom >> of the list can help me figure out what is happening. >> >> A couple of weeks ago, someone pulled out in front of me, so I had to do a >> 'slam on the brakes' stop. In the past, ABS would kick in, the pedal >> would >> judder, and the car would safely and quickly come to a stop. This time >> though, the car dove to the right and the front right wheel locked up. >> Didn't hit anything, but that was not the result I was expecting. >> >> I've had the car since new, and it now has over 276,000 miles on it. So I >> figured that one of the calipers was sticking, and since the calipers were >> original to the car, it was time to swap them out. So I got a new set of >> front calipers, plus new flexible brake lines all around and got >> everything >> installed. Took it on a test drive, and same thing. Car dives to the >> right, front right wheel locks up and if you don't have your hand on the >> steering wheel, the wheel actually turns. So I then tried swapping the >> front wheels to see if it was a tire or wheel issue, and nothing changed. >> I then swapped the calipers, rotors and pads from side to side, and that >> wasn't it either. I got the car up off of the ground, and then did a >> visual check of all of the suspension parts. I had replaced just about >> everything (lower control arms, upper control arms, tie rod ends, hubs, >> bushings all the way around) back in the fall. Nothing appeared to be >> loose or out of place. >> >> At this point, I was stumped. I took the car to the local mechanic, and >> let them have a crack at it. They rechecked everything, and ran through >> some tests of their own, but couldn't find the issue. They thought maybe >> the ball joints on the bottom of the steering knuckles were too loose, so >> I >> had them replace those and recheck the alignment. Alignment checked out >> ok, but the car still dives to the right under hard braking. >> >> So now I'm leaning towards master cylinder or ABS unit issue. I don't see >> any fluid leaking, but that doesn't rule out an internal issue. I checked >> the temps of the rotors with an infrared thermometer, but the difference >> between the two sides was only 10 degrees F after a 20 minute drive. The >> car evidently has a split system, with the right front/left rear on one >> circuit and left front/right rear on the other. >> >> This has been one of the more difficult issues to track down. Anyone have >> any ideas or thoughts on other things to check? Any info or help would be >> much appreciated. >> >> Greg Gowins >> '69 Sprite/'97 Accord >> Driftwood, TX >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 2 12:05:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9DC42A2B for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 12:05:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m01.mx.aol.com (omr-m01.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E2BD40443 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 11:57:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.10]) by omr-m01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 836827005EB52; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 13:53:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-doa005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-doa005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.211.17]) by mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 548F8E000082; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 13:53:25 -0400 (EDT) From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 13:53:25 -0400 (EDT) To: cartman@rcn.com, spridgets@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1370195605; bh=kflRNPHq874p9MM0Am/CTwhZwWziRLYRqWe9SfVuOpI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ctz7kuIzpvtW5jzDlvXgoi7q+QAWTyvpKKBTcBmiRMDZMqN/sjyr5wNkj7pt/U20V BvqdtNP5Kj8xTULMf9/izpfUy5pKh8NRgeyxLSQRFxyDWGN24V+pDXbiIPWPwkFwgv cjH/v+kFpKIr/Vy/9qUjX4nCPjUAGtBYThkQA8e0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a51ab869562a5 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Brake issue on my LJC (Honda Accord) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Was I closest with my suggestion of check the dampers? In a message dated 02/06/2013 18:46:40 GMT Daylight Time, cartman@rcn.com writes: Got it figured out. Nothing to do with ABS or hydraulics. The nylon in the self locking nut on the passenger side radius arm gave out, and the nut backed itself out. This allowed that side to move to the back under hard braking, and thus pulled the car to the right. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 2 18:04:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8692242B5F for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 18:04:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f175.google.com (mail-wi0-f175.google.com [209.85.212.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F3F42A6E for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 17:59:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f175.google.com with SMTP id hn14so2165528wib.8 for ; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 16:54:35 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=+kvCcQeLo7vreLAinKY9U17bX304sWvrSzTOcdc6fYw=; b=eU3sXBJFXPWtgQIJYUgPYeJEWphBHp/W+F/rLq8m0gg+yWc4/yVeEZPJyuU8jPkeWA XoG5CZiQLW3dzeFuw2KERzU1hoABR2PkU3CqU2kgyWxG8o5T5HOQHNOtoDbYkztPH6Uo hvc9YIBiMd7JZDEV5n4JWLM0ww0ooteSG31eXbJsEtKgHGcZHIvGWb1iNCEbLo/w2Uur +l9f7TuHACCAzP/vWTQbTn3yuY9lcGMdrLh4QyEpQiw3ppcM/KSLqJtFg0HMirNyDR+r +Mmr481zLkXwfsdxUXZ06nWNmAx16Ow8w8MMVeV8vPa5S70Sj4E3Q9pvEeahVDtbs7V9 Xu1g== lo7mr10232484wic.64.1370217275630; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 16:54:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.119.67 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 16:54:35 -0700 (PDT) References: <20130529152829.3AEC4F44314@mx2.netinteraction.com> <015801ce5c8f$c3b6d120$4b247360$@hky.com> <20130529171743.D46BAF441DF@mx2.netinteraction.com> <40E888CC-2434-4243-853C-E7CB579422BA@mac.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 19:54:35 -0400 From: Linda Grunthaner To: Larry Macy Cc: Spridgets net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] ITIDWFWD* Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Congratulations peter, and thanks to Frank for the help. Did you all hear his daughter Tiffany just got engaged. I'm sure Frank would approve sounds like Ted is a wonderful guy. Lin On Wednesday, May 29, 2013, Larry Macy wrote: > Happy Birthday to you, Happy Birthday to you. > > Happy WWFD day too!! > > Larry > > On May 29, 2013, at 13:17 PM, Peter Caldwell > > wrote: > > > Fuel line to the Facet pump was kinked. re-routed the hose. > > > > Pics...... someday > > > > Peter C > > > > At 12:12 PM 5/29/2013, Bud Osbourne wrote: > >> I love to hear when one of the earlier cars gets saved and returned to > >> service (one of these years, I promise, I WILL finish my Mk I Midget > >> restoration)! > >> So, like Ed asked: what did you have to do to get it running right? > Also, > >> how about some pictures, Peter? > >> > >> Bud > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net > >> [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net ] On Behalf Of > Peter Caldwell > >> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 11:28 AM > >> To: spridgets@autox.team.net > >> Subject: [Spridgets] ITIDWFWD* > >> > >> List, > >> I Just bought sight unseen a 63 that hasn't been able to run for > more > >> than 3 minutes for 2 years despite tons of money thrown at it. > >> > >> We agreed on a price before I saw it. I drove 2-1/2 hours to Green Bay > to > >> see it. Bought it. Fixed it in less than 10 minutes. Offered to undo the > >> sale. He declined. > >> > >> So I drove it another 80 miles to the tip of Door County in Wisconsin > (the > >> bit that protrudes into Lake Michigan) Gave rides to many relatives. > Then > I > >> drove it home to Madison, 5 hours; the last hour and a half in gale > winds > >> and some drizzle. No top installed, of course. > >> > >> WHAT A FREAKING BLAST!!!! > >> > >> This is not my first, or my last. Just a real joy. Somewhat original. > >> Some flaws. Great driver. > >> > >> Love it! It's been a whole year since I've had a driver. (still have a > few > >> "in the wings" as it were) > >> > >> Peter C > >> > >> * trans. I think I did what Frank would do. > >> > >> WWFD sticker immediately on the windshield, and another to the > >> seller.... who has a Bugeye. > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- > >> No virus found in this message. > >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >> Version: 2013.0.3343 / Virus Database: 3184/6366 - Release Date: > 05/29/13 > > ------------------------ > > > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy@mac.com > > -- > > Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. > macy@upenn.edu > Senior IT Program Director > Neuropsychiatry Section > Department of Psychiatry > Perelman School of Medicine > University of Pennsylvania > 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates > Philadelphia, PA 19104 > > "Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the > trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There > is > no reason not to follow your heart, Stay hungry. Stay foolish." > > Steve Jobs, 2005 > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 2 18:05:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2928E42B84 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 18:05:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f178.google.com (mail-we0-f178.google.com [74.125.82.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AB2742A68 for ; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 18:02:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f178.google.com with SMTP id u53so572666wes.37 for ; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 16:58:18 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=aIwWtTKw81otsVww4fjGXmzVtyWFssJHPeQe/mjrlhg=; b=glzsuSNY+lTNzGKhLbRmFAvUgNGLzPodzjwWBxLucgjGnOKZlJUcDlp4m24sU/K7Dm BLklCAEIPCfB415lXme6sy3HUZHgT0Mo3Bm89Lc66NYTcTLyYVpnt5nWE9LwuAHntN8m Y5Y+xLmdm+OYJnkOzeztlRG/OTyHu2o17MBJEPXgmJVhLYdujnQs6ylkf59kCOMkKwc2 McuA2Lgz6LulfUQziscoPPO/b2VKS4M74HE0m31CxUDO5wPopHu+2uf3pKAGM1ccuRpZ dabEp3El3W3EURmCWWNge/EER3v20ALeWah/NibjLOKXY4SZnqJbNifFS70De7BWEa+S PdDw== v4mr16611044wjq.44.1370217498622; Sun, 02 Jun 2013 16:58:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.217.119.67 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Jun 2013 16:58:18 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Sun, 2 Jun 2013 19:58:18 -0400 From: Linda Grunthaner To: Kitterer Bob , Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spring Trip has started Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sounds like another fun adventure Bob & Dolores, happy trails. Where is this new destination? Lin On Friday, May 31, 2013, Kitterer Bob wrote: > We have finally gotten out Spring Trip on the road. > Here is the quick link to what is happening on this trip. > > http://www.gpsztwo.net/adventures/2013-adventures/june-2013.html > > It's been a long day. > > Bob and Dolores > www.gpsztwo.net > www.gpz1.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 12:14:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479ED42F40 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 12:14:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtprelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0240.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.240]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAFD42ECC for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 12:09:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay07.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 792CA2D2A11 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 18:04:41 +0000 (UTC) RULES_HIT:355:379:854:966:968:973:988:989:1187:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1542:1593:1594:1605:1711:1730:1747:1777:1792:2196:2198:2199:2200:2393:2559:2562:2693:2731:2828:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:4031:4039:4250:4385:4605:5007:6119:7652:7775:7903:8603:10004:10400:10848:11658:11914:12293:12517:12519:12663:13095:13146:13161:13229:13230:13618, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk,SPF:fn,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0 Received: from [192.168.1.109] (host216-187.lsdepts.ucsb.edu [128.111.216.187]) (Authenticated sender: mikey@rambour.com) by omf10.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 18:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 11:20:07 -0700 From: Mike Rambour User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net 11 years ago I was a younger man (pretty interesting eh ?) and I had a unique opportunity to buy a very rare 1934 Singer and when you already own a 1934 Singer and say this one is rare you know its unique. I have not touched this Singer because I did not want to have 2 cars apart at the same time and so I told people it was going to be my retirement project, well retirement is too far away and I want it on the road. The reason I mentioned something about being younger is that as I have gotten older, I no longer enjoy the moments broken down on the side of the road and I enjoy the trouble free driving more so I am thinking of doing a engine swap. The original motor is a 1493cc 6 cylinder motor of early 1930's technology (59 mm. by 91 mm bore-stroke) and I have no idea the HP rating of it but it can't be very high. The gearbox is a crashbox with four speeds with ratios 5.22, 6.65, 10.68 and 19.43 to 1 and 26.4:1 reverse with silent second and third gears, no idea the rear axle ratio. Fueled by twin Solex sidedraft carbs. The motor has had cracks brazed in the side of the block on both sides, the freeze plugs corroded out decades ago and were covered by bondo (yes Bondo) to prevent leaks I assume. I removed the oil pan and found wood screws jammed into the block because the oil pan studs were broken so they drilled small holes and used wood screws. The oil pump strainer was cut off (presumably to increase oil pressure after too much sludge plugged up the strainer) and there appears to be a crack between the number 2 and 3 cylinders which allows coolant into the oil sump. The motor can be fixed but its ridiculously expensive and I want reliability. I have a Spridget 1275 complete with carbs and gearbox, I have no idea the year but it has a 10CG (or is it 10GG?) head which implies its a later 1275 motor, no idea of its real condition but its free turning and just turning by hand appears to have compression in all 4 cylinders, of course a full rebuild is in order. I am thinking a newer 1275 will have more HP than a 1930's 1500 motor, it will also be lighter and extremely very easily fit into the chassis with no permanent mods to the Singer and that the 1275 motor would work well in this car. When I have done motor swaps it was usually to make a hot rod with much larger more powerful motors, I have never gone down in size before am I stupid to try this ? should I find a 1500 motor from some other make ? There is one of these cars in New Zealand with a VW 2Litre from a modern car in it but they also swapped the rear axle and I want to avoid that. My goal would be to make it reliable and be able to get to freeway speeds so I can take it places, if it takes a while to get to that speed that is ok with me. Wow, long message... mike ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 12:18:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3850343013 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 12:18:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtprelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0050.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375B142EF0 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 12:18:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay05.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 993641DC036 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 18:14:07 +0000 (UTC) RULES_HIT:355:379:599:854:988:989:1187:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1536:1559:1593:1594:1711:1714:1730:1747:1777:1792:2393:2559:2562:2828:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3865:3871:3874:5007:7652:7903:8531:10004:10400:10848:11658:11914:12517:12519:13069:13311:13357, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk,SPF:fn,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0 Received: from [192.168.1.109] (host216-187.lsdepts.ucsb.edu [128.111.216.187]) (Authenticated sender: mikey@rambour.com) by omf03.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 18:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 11:29:33 -0700 From: Mike Rambour User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <5197C657.6060509@dinospider.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wait...the 10CG or 10GG head is on my 1098 that is going into my other Singer...so I know nothing about the 1275 :) ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 12:59:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9E9543041 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 12:59:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth15.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth15.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D746742ED9 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 12:57:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [71.236.143.70] (helo=spider) by smtpauth15.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1UjZsc-0004Ak-OY for spridgets@autox.team.net; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 14:53:18 -0400 From: To: References: <5197C657.6060509@dinospider.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 11:53:14 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac5ghYUV+RTcFVfbSA+yVtqr7Y+VewABaWXA Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Do what you want. Would having AAA towing insurance count as dependable?? Hydraulic or cable brakes; if you're gonna go, you gotta be able to stop. Bill in Oregon =========================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Rambour Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 11:20 AM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related . . . Am I stupid to try this? should I find a 1500 motor from some other make ? There is one of these cars in New Zealand with a VW 2-litre from a modern car in it but they also swapped the rear axle and I want to avoid that. My goal would be to make it reliable and be able to get to freeway speeds so I can take it places, if it takes a while to get to that speed that is ok with me. Wow, long message... mike ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis@peoplepc.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 13:02:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D37F4306B for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 13:02:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f178.google.com (mail-ea0-f178.google.com [209.85.215.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA4842FCC for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 13:02:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f178.google.com with SMTP id q15so3842420ead.23 for ; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 11:57:56 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=47sEwgfqAfRBPENE94K5Bw5lUjGiEjoUt99pjhbJK9s=; b=L4ZSa9DcnFdkM1qDvZCw+SC6IsAWpb/MvamsDoD25q+AGlLTgfx6K4TuwVa5dqtbgh 4d8pRx6kXx/7shJ8lpkz5K2DHP1xuEAaTXwZ0l2fLLDofmhQBwv9VLNicQn1vL+cz8tj N0pFNlEt3MvrmiKOjFh0lkrNHA7K9gY8pVhCyrkMKvVEHUCo9jL6g8WHZ917bHVwJV9E TF9E7rD6L9TDhPUmtGRf3Xz/JUIX1WHYp8fQS7s0vd321yJTMh99acdmby8HTtxfi32F rKEC7tNjUZ/yeYvWqF+BPl7QRm4ziQACQkXCOdtO9Yi0x4I3dm0/Mmt9d/bNlgwRTNcT 6SJw== Mon, 03 Jun 2013 11:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.152.135 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 11:57:56 -0700 (PDT) References: <5197C657.6060509@dinospider.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 14:57:56 -0400 From: Trevor Jessie To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Educate me on those gear ratios and the type of rear end (differential?) used in this car. On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Mike Rambour wrote: > 11 years ago I was a younger man (pretty interesting eh ?) and I had a > unique opportunity to buy a very rare 1934 Singer and when you already own > a 1934 Singer and say this one is rare you know its unique. > > I have not touched this Singer because I did not want to have 2 cars > apart at the same time and so I told people it was going to be my > retirement project, well retirement is too far away and I want it on the > road. The reason I mentioned something about being younger is that as I > have gotten older, I no longer enjoy the moments broken down on the side of > the road and I enjoy the trouble free driving more so I am thinking of > doing a engine swap. > > The original motor is a 1493cc 6 cylinder motor of early 1930's > technology (59 mm. by 91 mm bore-stroke) and I have no idea the HP rating > of it but it can't be very high. The gearbox is a crashbox with four speeds > with ratios 5.22, 6.65, 10.68 and 19.43 to 1 and 26.4:1 reverse with silent > second and third gears, no idea the rear axle ratio. Fueled by twin Solex > sidedraft carbs. The motor has had cracks brazed in the side of the block > on both sides, the freeze plugs corroded out decades ago and were covered > by bondo (yes Bondo) to prevent leaks I assume. I removed the oil pan and > found wood screws jammed into the block because the oil pan studs were > broken so they drilled small holes and used wood screws. The oil pump > strainer was cut off (presumably to increase oil pressure after too much > sludge plugged up the strainer) and there appears to be a crack between the > number 2 and 3 cylinders which allows coolant into the oil sump. The motor > can be fixed but its ridiculously expensive and I want reliability. > > I have a Spridget 1275 complete with carbs and gearbox, I have no idea > the year but it has a 10CG (or is it 10GG?) head which implies its a later > 1275 motor, no idea of its real condition but its free turning and just > turning by hand appears to have compression in all 4 cylinders, of course a > full rebuild is in order. > > I am thinking a newer 1275 will have more HP than a 1930's 1500 motor, it > will also be lighter and extremely very easily fit into the chassis with no > permanent mods to the Singer and that the 1275 motor would work well in > this car. When I have done motor swaps it was usually to make a hot rod > with much larger more powerful motors, I have never gone down in size > before am I stupid to try this ? should I find a 1500 motor from some other > make ? There is one of these cars in New Zealand with a VW 2Litre from a > modern car in it but they also swapped the rear axle and I want to avoid > that. > > My goal would be to make it reliable and be able to get to freeway speeds > so I can take it places, if it takes a while to get to that speed that is > ok with me. > > Wow, long message... > > mike > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/trevor.**jessie@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 14:06:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB583403F3 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 14:06:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtprelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0063.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A60942FD8 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 14:06:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay06.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E473432AC13 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 20:02:21 +0000 (UTC) RULES_HIT:355:379:599:854:966:973:988:989:1187:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1540:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1777:1792:2196:2199:2393:2559:2562:2692:2693:2828:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3352:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3874:4385:5007:7652:7903:10004:10400:10848:11232:11658:11914:12050:12294:12517:12519:12663:12740:13069:13311:13357:13618, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk,SPF:fn,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0 Received: from [192.168.1.109] (host216-187.lsdepts.ucsb.edu [128.111.216.187]) (Authenticated sender: mikey@rambour.com) by omf10.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 20:02:21 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 13:17:48 -0700 From: Mike Rambour User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <5197C657.6060509@dinospider.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net On 06/03/2013 11:57 AM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > Educate me on those gear ratios and the type of rear end (differential?) > used in this car. That is what came out of the owners manual. I don't understand it either, I am guessing its measured differently than it is today, for example at the rear wheel or ? Good point on the 5-speed, I had not given that any thought at all. It complicates matters in that I have to find one, etc. but since as someone already said, the 1275 should have more power then the old 1500, a 5-speed should allow to cruise at slow freeway speeds without blowing up the motor (not interested in doing average fast lane speeds here in Calif. with this car). Already had brand new brake drums made so I can stop the thing from that speed. I like the 5-speed idea, I know Mo$$ has one for $$$ but if I remember my readings here, I need to find a Datsun or like that (will search the archives). mike ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 14:37:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AFD943244 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 14:37:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtprelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0122.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE359431A3 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 14:37:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay06.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5590E32AC12 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 20:32:55 +0000 (UTC) RULES_HIT:355:379:599:854:973:988:989:1187:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1540:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1777:1792:2393:2559:2562:2693:2828:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3352:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:4250:4648:5007:6119:6271:7652:7903:8660:9040:10004:10400:10848:11232:11658:11914:12517:12519:12740:13069:13148:13161:13229:13230:13311:13357, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk,SPF:fn,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0 Received: from [192.168.1.109] (host216-187.lsdepts.ucsb.edu [128.111.216.187]) (Authenticated sender: mikey@rambour.com) by omf07.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 20:32:54 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 13:48:21 -0700 From: Mike Rambour User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: Spridgets References: <5197C657.6060509@dinospider.com> <5197E1EC.9070508@dinospider.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I will Thanks. Of course as I think about this, I just hit another engineering issue, the Singer is RHD and mechanical clutch, not hydraulic. So I will have to figure out how to get a master/slave into the car for the clutch. On my other Singer I had to make a rather complicated mess of levers and adapters to make the 1098 clutch work, but I didn't have to design that, someone in the UK owners club did and it works well. The 5-speed which takes the Datsun clutch I assume will need the hydraulics (which I would prefer anyway if I can design it without butchering the Singer chassis) This is beginning to look like a cool challenge and it will make the car driveable. mike On 06/03/2013 01:11 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Hi Mike, > > RE: the 5 speed... Call or email Gerard Chateauvieux who is not too > far from you. He does a 5 speed kits and can offer you sound advise. > > Cheers!! > Jim ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 17:14:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD5E94423B for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 17:14:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2425043D1A for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 17:13:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.87]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id jrEh1l0061swQuc55z9VVX; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 23:09:29 +0000 Received: from blackbox2 ([69.253.143.59]) by omta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id jz9V1l00t1H6MAV3bz9Vys; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 23:09:29 +0000 From: "Dean Hedin" To: "'Mike Rambour'" , "'Spridgets'" References: <5197C657.6060509@dinospider.com> Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 19:09:15 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5ghYBQypcPGxF3TlapBpZinLeTpQAKNiGg s=q20121106; t=1370300969; bh=pKr68N13VVGJ+zVnYLyxP10iwF1g67dgeDa86M5p82c=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=hZCHurR72un0QdsQp4d0juV9KCacT+8xaNR7l7KvXDI2LxReJVRGaG42XWks81j2h iPRuQUn4iAbv1lEffs9LOjs9DfWCMrwI7XOv9Ecl6Ib+9GRrxb2vw796bNutKd0iOV eATtpCGvsbaYPqBvR6zrpv6AWvbckRqLPylaI13qiRnphRpG5au2V1VconD2fwsxCv jL/VcBQgIaP13fq9wEISwZfcbsFTv8LdIRbALgSG/6ftaqjY9SarnvEchouna7p+tU JWviqYue08KyfGT1v9PtRb3QplZV1vYg1NOZS5DBa4ngZz8tpWH0pvaGAMY6Ayq68y 8vEXm/Sksmdjg== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I think for a car of that vintage you should locate (and perhaps upgrade) an original motor. I just don't see it being that less reliable than an A-series. I realize it might be difficult to locate another motor, but I would at least give it a shot. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mike Rambour Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 2:20 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related 11 years ago I was a younger man (pretty interesting eh ?) and I had a unique opportunity to buy a very rare 1934 Singer and when you already own a 1934 Singer and say this one is rare you know its unique. I have not touched this Singer because I did not want to have 2 cars apart at the same time and so I told people it was going to be my retirement project, well retirement is too far away and I want it on the road. The reason I mentioned something about being younger is that as I have gotten older, I no longer enjoy the moments broken down on the side of the road and I enjoy the trouble free driving more so I am thinking of doing a engine swap. The original motor is a 1493cc 6 cylinder motor of early 1930's technology (59 mm. by 91 mm bore-stroke) and I have no idea the HP rating of it but it can't be very high. The gearbox is a crashbox with four speeds with ratios 5.22, 6.65, 10.68 and 19.43 to 1 and 26.4:1 reverse with silent second and third gears, no idea the rear axle ratio. Fueled by twin Solex sidedraft carbs. The motor has had cracks brazed in the side of the block on both sides, the freeze plugs corroded out decades ago and were covered by bondo (yes Bondo) to prevent leaks I assume. I removed the oil pan and found wood screws jammed into the block because the oil pan studs were broken so they drilled small holes and used wood screws. The oil pump strainer was cut off (presumably to increase oil pressure after too much sludge plugged up the strainer) and there appears to be a crack between the number 2 and 3 cylinders which allows coolant into the oil sump. The motor can be fixed but its ridiculously expensive and I want reliability. I have a Spridget 1275 complete with carbs and gearbox, I have no idea the year but it has a 10CG (or is it 10GG?) head which implies its a later 1275 motor, no idea of its real condition but its free turning and just turning by hand appears to have compression in all 4 cylinders, of course a full rebuild is in order. I am thinking a newer 1275 will have more HP than a 1930's 1500 motor, it will also be lighter and extremely very easily fit into the chassis with no permanent mods to the Singer and that the 1275 motor would work well in this car. When I have done motor swaps it was usually to make a hot rod with much larger more powerful motors, I have never gone down in size before am I stupid to try this ? should I find a 1500 motor from some other make ? There is one of these cars in New Zealand with a VW 2Litre from a modern car in it but they also swapped the rear axle and I want to avoid that. My goal would be to make it reliable and be able to get to freeway speeds so I can take it places, if it takes a while to get to that speed that is ok with me. Wow, long message... mike ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlh2001@comcast.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 17:28:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF094426F for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 17:28:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com (nk11p03mm-asmtpout001.mac.com [17.158.232.236]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF0C143D24 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 17:25:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.8] (pool-108-23-16-23.lsanca.fios.verizon.net [108.23.16.23]) by nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MNU00GWJBJ91VA0@nk11p03mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 23:21:11 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-06-03_05:2013-06-03,2013-06-03,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=38 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1306030216 From: Paul Van Wig Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2013 16:21:09 -0700 References: <5197C657.6060509@dinospider.com> To: Spridgets List Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net A long as you are thinking transplant why not drop in a modern motor and trans that is easy to get parts for and common enough to be inexpensive. Iv'e done Datsun motor in a Morris Minor but the little Datsun motors are getting harder to mind. Take your tape measure to the local wrecking yard. Or check what other cars that use a similar sized motor have used for transplants. Paul Van Wig Big Bear/Long Beach, CA facebook.com/pvanwig 1959 Nash Metropolitan "Tiffany" (the wife's fun ride) 1968 Morris Minor Woody RHD "Thomas" 1960 Bug Eye (awaiting restoration) 1980 CJ7 Lives @ 7440' 2012 Turbo Diesel Ram 2500 4X4 2003 Toyota 4Runner (the wife's Mountain car) 2012 Cadillac SRX 3.6 (the wife's work ride) On May 18, 2013, at 11:20 AM, Mike Rambour wrote: 11 years ago I was a younger man (pretty interesting eh ?) and I had a unique opportunity to buy a very rare 1934 Singer and when you already own a 1934 Singer and say this one is rare you know its unique. I have not touched this Singer because I did not want to have 2 cars apart at the same time and so I told people it was going to be my retirement project, well retirement is too far away and I want it on the road. The reason I mentioned something about being younger is that as I have gotten older, I no longer enjoy the moments broken down on the side of the road and I enjoy the trouble free driving more so I am thinking of doing a engine swap. The original motor is a 1493cc 6 cylinder motor of early 1930's technology (59 mm. by 91 mm bore-stroke) and I have no idea the HP rating of it but it can't be very high. The gearbox is a crashbox with four speeds with ratios 5.22, 6.65, 10.68 and 19.43 to 1 and 26.4:1 reverse with silent second and third gears, no idea the rear axle ratio. Fueled by twin Solex sidedraft carbs. The motor has had cracks brazed in the side of the block on both sides, the freeze plugs corroded out decades ago and were covered by bondo (yes Bondo) to prevent leaks I assume. I removed the oil pan and found wood screws jammed into the block because the oil pan studs were broken so they drilled small holes and used wood screws. The oil pump strainer was cut off (presumably to increase oil pressure after too much sludge plugged up the strainer) and there appears to be a crack between the number 2 and 3 cylinders which allows coolant into the oil sump. The motor can be fixed but its ridiculously expensive and I want reliability. I have a Spridget 1275 complete with carbs and gearbox, I have no idea the year but it has a 10CG (or is it 10GG?) head which implies its a later 1275 motor, no idea of its real condition but its free turning and just turning by hand appears to have compression in all 4 cylinders, of course a full rebuild is in order. I am thinking a newer 1275 will have more HP than a 1930's 1500 motor, it will also be lighter and extremely very easily fit into the chassis with no permanent mods to the Singer and that the 1275 motor would work well in this car. When I have done motor swaps it was usually to make a hot rod with much larger more powerful motors, I have never gone down in size before am I stupid to try this ? should I find a 1500 motor from some other make ? There is one of these cars in New Zealand with a VW 2Litre from a modern car in it but they also swapped the rear axle and I want to avoid that. My goal would be to make it reliable and be able to get to freeway speeds so I can take it places, if it takes a while to get to that speed that is ok with me. Wow, long message... mike ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/pvanwig@mac.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 17:40:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A1843D0D for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 17:40:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtprelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0107.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.107]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0676243D09 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 17:34:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay03.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F4F310FC65; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 23:29:49 +0000 (UTC) RULES_HIT:355:379:599:854:973:982:988:989:1187:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1777:1792:2393:2559:2562:2693:2733:2828:2907:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3354:3742:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:4043:4250:4397:4605:4648:5007:6119:7652:7903:10004:10400:10848:11232:11658:11914:12517:12519:12660:12740:13069:13548, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk,SPF:fn,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0 Received: from [192.168.1.109] (host216-187.lsdepts.ucsb.edu [128.111.216.187]) (Authenticated sender: mikey@rambour.com) by omf11.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 23:29:48 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 16:45:14 -0700 From: Mike Rambour User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: Dean Hedin References: <5197C657.6060509@dinospider.com> <52A212B4D39D441894296D962ED51109@blackbox2> Cc: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I agree, especially when the car is as rare as this one is. However it is estimated they only built 20 of this model, the records were lost in WWII bombings. My car is the 17th (body number) one so we know they built 17 at least. There are only 8 left that are known to exist, no higher body numbers are known to exist. They built thousands of cars and trucks in 1934 but this was a special model and the motor is unique to this model. Good luck on finding one in any condition. The next years model was still a 1.5litre but a 4cylinder motor from their other cars. I was quoted between 12,000 and 15,000 UK Pounds to rebuild the motor and first I have to ship it to the UK and that was only a rough quote based on my descriptions. He has done 3 other of these motors and that is why I asked him over someone in the U.S. My theory on putting the 1275 is that I can go back or more likely the next owner can go back to original as I will not have to cut up the chassis to make it fit. I will not permanently butcher the car, everything I will do can be easily undone. And I get it on the road. Kind of doing the same thing with my other more common 34 Singer, I put in a 1098 into it but I have also since purchased a brand new block (club had some cast) and have slowly been acquiring parts, new (stronger) crank is being made. I will have a original motor ready to go but I will have the 1098 for daily driving. mike On 06/03/2013 04:09 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > I think for a car of that vintage you should locate (and perhaps upgrade) an > original motor. > > I just don't see it being that less reliable than an A-series. > > I realize it might be difficult to locate another motor, but I would at > least give it a shot. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 17:41:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267D94427F for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 17:41:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtprelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0014.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D9943D00 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 17:39:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay07.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88C332D2A13 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 23:35:08 +0000 (UTC) RULES_HIT:355:379:599:854:973:988:989:1187:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1777:1792:2197:2199:2393:2559:2562:2693:2828:2912:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3353:3653:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:4250:5007:6119:7652:7903:10004:10400:10848:11232:11658:11914:12517:12519:12663:12740:13069, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk,SPF:fn,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:0:0 Received: from [192.168.1.109] (host216-187.lsdepts.ucsb.edu [128.111.216.187]) (Authenticated sender: mikey@rambour.com) by omf13.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 23:35:07 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 16:50:34 -0700 From: Mike Rambour User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <5197C657.6060509@dinospider.com> <98AA2FE1-29BB-4F6A-9106-0B73D661F2CB@mac.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I only thought about the 1275 because I have one already sitting in my back yard. The other car in New Zealand that I mentioned went with a late model VW motor, computer, fuel injection and automatic gearbox and VW rear axle so I know it can be done, but they also cut up the frame to fit it all. I already spent $3,200US having new brake drums cast/made for this car, I don't want to swap rear axles at this stage. I happen to have a good rebuildable 1275 and a second one of unknown condition that is why I thought about them. I am certainly not against something more reliable and modern but I will NOT cut or weld anything to the Singer chassis so it can be reversed. I do plan on looking around before going crazy and doing this. mike On 06/03/2013 04:21 PM, Paul Van Wig wrote: > A long as you are thinking transplant why not drop in a modern motor and trans > that is easy to get parts for and common enough to be inexpensive. Iv'e done > Datsun motor in a Morris Minor but the little Datsun motors are getting > harder to mind. > Take your tape measure to the local wrecking yard. Or check what other cars > that use a similar sized motor have used for transplants. > > > > Paul Van Wig > Big Bear/Long Beach, CA > facebook.com/pvanwig ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 3 18:43:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595314428D for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 18:43:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com (mail-oa0-f41.google.com [209.85.219.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7927144245 for ; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 18:34:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id n9so1457946oag.14 for ; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 17:30:02 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=R/CsQmP1ugUD+ZdiPRnpLhIxRw7plUuG69Yb1Ivkj9w=; b=l3RHXPpLNKHC3l6h0vGFkVxJDWVLUXRKw+mqQvoyOISgjqkdTVNT8WqjD57t9r2izl FI/rK5Z+CiWed34sxWPqF6//C5QodNELGGLah8jF4Tur980BG1UWs8+nPvLLyo7ds1ZD hF2HiPrCxRWStZb3Fi89eV9/VtrNw8L3NUV7pA6Xk7GFTHJ/F85EqfSoWfd7H1yMsl07 /VFqyaChm8h5lbb6Prk314L1KCkFGNn7LEjDeLuMrXdaLHA6Poke5p9h4xyHmuPYL2uJ bNNSzR9UGi4ZEF8ivGByR1E8Hxh+nrRPQoZjkkjZR6PTOgt/1Vb+TGSarNclkgaE8Kfo ZnRA== pt1mr10959610obb.3.1370305802217; Mon, 03 Jun 2013 17:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.226.3 with HTTP; Mon, 3 Jun 2013 17:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 19:30:02 -0500 From: Brad Fornal To: Spridget list , Yahoo Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] SCORE!!! some LBC content Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net The schools library is cleaning shelves, so today, I picked up 6 books. 5 hard cover, and one soft cover The Roaring Road - Gene Olson 1967 Pistons and Powderpuffs - Gene Olson 1967 Young Skin Diver - Philip Harkins 1956 The Day of the Drag Race - Philip Harkins 1960 Argentine Road Race - Philip Harkins 1962 Hank - Dorothy M Broderick - 1966 (this one has a British car of some sort on the cover -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 06:30:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15BC54437F for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 06:30:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65AA2403F7 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 06:29:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.131]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3A75F70035470; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 08:24:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [166.182.66.221]) by mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 9A15EE0000DE; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 08:24:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 07:25:00 -0500 From: Tmheffron To: Brad Fornal , Spridget list , Yahoo Spridget list x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1370348691; bh=vGA7ECGimzdCp5ejrd9sygJ3A0rPqbLd8Cxwa0tr3e4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Afaa3ULt30uaTm+AVRSYgNmht8QZxqK1tpcPMbqlO1twuAuS8l1lxbhJwTuctkgZP FC/6807oAlLzf7mVDX+vQMj/kForNhC5Dbw8mt32sQMrlhMqmpsWFk/0fBjTLwNqvr MgpFQRUKZzKEjqwJxJ3lWllXTaNBXLv3mDTs7aJ8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338351addc9059b3 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SCORE!!! some LBC content Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net The Day of the Drag Race is one of my favorite books since grade school. I re-read my paperback this past winter. Sent from my U.S. CellularB. Android-powered phone Brad Fornal wrote: >The schools library is cleaning shelves, so today, I picked up 6 books. 5 >hard cover, and one soft cover > >The Roaring Road - Gene Olson 1967 >Pistons and Powderpuffs - Gene Olson 1967 >Young Skin Diver - Philip Harkins 1956 >The Day of the Drag Race - Philip Harkins 1960 >Argentine Road Race - Philip Harkins 1962 >Hank - Dorothy M Broderick - 1966 (this one has a British car of some sort >on the cover > > >-- >DON JULIO 1942 > >http://tequilabrad.com/ >------------------------ > >spridgets@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tmheffron@aol.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 06:47:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61BF5443A9 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 06:47:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm40-vm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm40-vm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.216]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90CD644377 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 06:46:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm40.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 12:42:20 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.240] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 12:42:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1049.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 12:42:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 28831 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jun 2013 12:42:20 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370349740; bh=3q9Pyl6wYYOGPEWcEFHOoTpu2+0jLnRur+gCh4SOiNA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Sexxs2BSEh6yag/4E9itbaEIbUAuTC1ztWB3Pod8jCDAM15fRlUZHa9Tk8E+5hWldlsqw9bSpqWHBIth0pUBHBUrZ3lXVOgFmAUiX70ylpF/OOlT2GZKd0Yo7L1hfiQyrMHYmUDyR2AxyyVajTgQVNrCCUvCFViF+aiuDjadh/Y= Isl_2G7TZRhcRGcUUjQx.q5oKQevB8swy2l5yDeXDMWlpS7JRU.qYd_7m1uL 9dko.c2pVOzJinTaYrUNCIpGAxDb2NTqVwvS1.WIsQic3SqQtSy_UEfMHD_g PwGykvKM9.pq1T9a.OCm9qyidelaWl39zPYOSft6Si58Lz5AdR3URQvdHPhA OSK_8EeHL4vZifpLR_68z1LLekuO8jjsSHrJsj25i_hhJ3EHBrcAogedTkWA w7LLX8mrZAWTruccodxIIEV_Wry.3Y3JXGLG1qrei49eDAhak_Sc_0x8NrI_ qVYOJV7o9j1haEl0na2bWLuniV.Acg3xFpy3_P.qJIAaoIQDn7pLj_A0Crib AFHNz7bCMDg2lIYWYranyMz5onPUB654BkYZ_IXIIoeOYgXh2ZbzZqP11TB0 zGbG1CugM7kCCUigGm72VvbbYoy4ZlDXXqs4gie6VsDsMWjBfoCO8RoopUfb nJw3CVFHkhl90uNANfLm9mR_EK3YaHLME1WLJyHe7zohNVVJqHw-- Received: from [64.135.241.60] by web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 05:42:20 PDT TWlrZSwKwqAKSSBrbm93IHdoYXQgSSB3b3VsZCBkby7CoCBIYXZlIHlvdSBldmVyIHNlZW4gb3IgYmV0dGVyIHlldCBkcml2ZW4gYSAyMDEwLTIwMTIgSG9uZGEgRml0P8KgIFRoYXQgMTUwMCBIb25kYSBGaXQgZW5naW5lIGlzIHRoZSB1bHRpbWF0ZSAibmV3IiBDb3ZlbnRyeSBDbGltYXggMTUwMC7CoCBTdGFuZGFyZCB3aXRoIG5vIHR3ZWFraW5nIC0gaXQgcHV0cyBvdXQgMTIwIGhwIG9uIHJlZ3VsYXIgODcgcHVtcCBmdWVsLsKgIFRoZXkgZXZlbiBtYWtlIGFsbCBvZiB0aGUgc3RhbmQgYWxvbmUgZW5naW4BMAEBAQE- References: <5197C657.6060509@dinospider.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 05:42:20 -0700 (PDT) From: "lotuspilot@frontier.com" To: Mike Rambour , Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mike, I know what I would do. Have you ever seen or better yet driven a 2010-2012 Honda Fit? That 1500 Honda Fit engine is the ultimate "new" Coventry Climax 1500. Standard with no tweaking - it puts out 120 hp on regular 87 pump fuel. They even make all of the stand alone engine control electronics as it is used to replace Formula Ford 1600 engines. They have to actually detune the engine to run it in Formula F. The entire engine is aluminum and it is SOHC with i-vtec. The engine has good torque low end but wakes up above 5000 revs. redline area begins around 7000. Once the vtec changes the valve timings it is a serious screamer. The engines from low mileage wrecked Fits sell very cheaply on ebay -around $500. All you would need to do is make an adapter plate etc. for a Spridget trans. Even the clutch looks like a Spridget/BMC part. Cool eh. Mike ________________________________ From: Mike Rambour To: Spridgets Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 2:20 PM Subject: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related 11 years ago I was a younger man (pretty interesting eh ?) and I had a unique opportunity to buy a very rare 1934 Singer and when you already own a 1934 Singer and say this one is rare you know its unique. I have not touched this Singer because I did not want to have 2 cars apart at the same time and so I told people it was going to be my retirement project, well retirement is too far away and I want it on the road. The reason I mentioned something about being younger is that as I have gotten older, I no longer enjoy the moments broken down on the side of the road and I enjoy the trouble free driving more so I am thinking of doing a engine swap. The original motor is a 1493cc 6 cylinder motor of early 1930's technology (59 mm. by 91 mm bore-stroke) and I have no idea the HP rating of it but it can't be very high. The gearbox is a crashbox with four speeds with ratios 5.22, 6.65, 10.68 and 19.43 to 1 and 26.4:1 reverse with silent second and third gears, no idea the rear axle ratio. Fueled by twin Solex sidedraft carbs. The motor has had cracks brazed in the side of the block on both sides, the freeze plugs corroded out decades ago and were covered by bondo (yes Bondo) to prevent leaks I assume. I removed the oil pan and found wood screws jammed into the block because the oil pan studs were broken so they drilled small holes and used wood screws. The oil pump strainer was cut off (presumably to increase oil pressure after too much sludge plugged up the strainer) and there appears to be a crack between the number 2 and 3 cylinders which allows coolant into the oil sump. The motor can be fixed but its ridiculously expensive and I want reliability. I have a Spridget 1275 complete with carbs and gearbox, I have no idea the year but it has a 10CG (or is it 10GG?) head which implies its a later 1275 motor, no idea of its real condition but its free turning and just turning by hand appears to have compression in all 4 cylinders, of course a full rebuild is in order. I am thinking a newer 1275 will have more HP than a 1930's 1500 motor, it will also be lighter and extremely very easily fit into the chassis with no permanent mods to the Singer and that the 1275 motor would work well in this car. When I have done motor swaps it was usually to make a hot rod with much larger more powerful motors, I have never gone down in size before am I stupid to try this ? should I find a 1500 motor from some other make ? There is one of these cars in New Zealand with a VW 2Litre from a modern car in it but they also swapped the rear axle and I want to avoid that. My goal would be to make it reliable and be able to get to freeway speeds so I can take it places, if it takes a while to get to that speed that is ok with me. Wow, long message... mike ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 07:29:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B38F443A7 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 07:29:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A103044378 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 07:26:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 13:21:41 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.216] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 13:21:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 13:21:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 8488 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jun 2013 13:21:41 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370352101; bh=meK2BoGmokXvorIg8yElRPcG1jASAs6dfOcVYAy7lXA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lYRslozEELTY3tvX/pZ21NqvX8r72IsrHhh344lb3+prXlh+beINRJ7JpFN1V3ob5bPmG66ZnrmnQkwHJgprwfvptpu82RK8rsFgebUfqMr5KFe76qiSdiKtXx7mHLCsuVIesDUM0/HkY2bKROUrIUdu5kECR1pvVPyZMitgZUQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Xibn8kS7LriUvTglbMzwuoaSinqGY2uywhev+GOutdfHsWSOpSQdZiPumpnWDlI3dMQyK9gbsJGw9SmHiGpnIt8gXVCae9NfAJejYhaqZBlC6M4UlVUodS3gYmqnhRTC0lf6DDGXNkRDF/x8U6j10bcxM7xCs2r3R+fID0yqY6o=; z5uninotF.m9kUPldnK6yilPZymrl6rfAn45uErtmxrPNs1TO4eZuhW_qGKl EGHUL4FpyUAYbH.1myTPTCSA1dQ5faMY20okPhY_gzPcKmOWzIBJzAt_fw4S 2ovZfYmA3rBR2VK9bYNEBIl7xWL39n8tiNgMBEtKQo8IiOVIiJPeywaJSgpA g4eO2KTACm8RgYm8C76DnQN2XukQBbsMrWsytMFh9jeFWZjvQJF2qMEy8mj0 q2kq7NXIyVL9_Wvi.gQEyb.ZZUmUcN7wTHbADT1vituy1UWj.5kCQaoifG_c mxAKyRNy1txjOoQka2B0nu2rTVfHtoxHA63Ejkefx_oxeKgEQYE.8cNK2R32 WI8IkJzCMbxxw.tE_zgeufiqhNBWLxftXLhNjDjaZkrpzPl9fA8ByPV2Foel cEWGPUFmaPOCpRw5MbNoIp72n7BkvSkqhfml4dGcTOxvd0kdMwiczLTSTO5I jzkee2YsZyfeyVB3jomYHQEoyq.7CBqKH1VHF2Ownm_orNVCU3iumPSL_Zq4 9_SSIkYrlmwHEbV2fl9DsxuTPSqaFYSCTMcxe3aPbyhh.R86agvjRxsi4sGq gwj6QZfNwMzYLk8zgXrQ7KcmKa2Ytcurn9Uaw5G1GrQe8WDTF2IvGX9o- Received: from [72.248.191.253] by web141406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 06:21:41 PDT TG92ZSBpdCB3aGVuIEnCoGhhcHBlbiBpbnRvIHRoZSBsaWJyYXJ5IG9uIHRob3NlIGRheXMuLi4gTXkgZmluZHMgaGF2ZSBuZXZlciBiZWVuIGFzIGdvb2QgYXMgc29tZSBvZiB0aG9zZSBzZWVtIHRvIHByb21pc2UgdG8gYmUuIENvbmdyYXRzIQoKCkZyb206IEJyYWQgRm9ybmFsIDx0ZXF1aWxhLmJyYWRAZ21haWwuY29tPgpUbzogU3ByaWRnZXQgbGlzdCA8c3ByaWRnZXRzQGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0PjsgWWFob28gU3ByaWRnZXQgbGlzdCA8bWlkZ2V0c3ByaXRlQHlhaG9vZ3JvdXBzLmNvbT4gClNlbnQ6IE0BMAEBAQE- References: Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 06:21:41 -0700 (PDT) From: David Booker To: Brad Fornal , Spridget list , Yahoo Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SCORE!!! some LBC content Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Love it when I happen into the library on those days... My finds have never been as good as some of those seem to promise to be. Congrats! From: Brad Fornal To: Spridget list ; Yahoo Spridget list Sent: Monday, June 3, 2013 8:30 PM Subject: [Spridgets] SCORE!!! some LBC content The schools library is cleaning shelves, so today, I picked up 6 books. 5 hard cover, and one soft cover The Roaring Road - Gene Olson 1967 Pistons and Powderpuffs - Gene Olson 1967 Young Skin Diver - Philip Harkins 1956 The Day of the Drag Race - Philip Harkins 1960 Argentine Road Race - Philip Harkins 1962 Hank - Dorothy M Broderick - 1966 (this one has a British car of some sort on the cover -- DON JULIO 1942 http://tequilabrad.com/ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 08:00:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94D8443B7 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 08:00:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc3-s10.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s10.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFE094436C for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 07:52:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY171-W100 ([65.54.190.188]) by bay0-omc3-s10.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 4 Jun 2013 06:47:36 -0700 From: brian S To: Mike Rambour , spridgets list Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 09:47:35 -0400 References: <5197C657.6060509@dinospider.com> FILETIME=[12172330:01CE612A] Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Didn't someone on the list have a complete Datsun A14 motor and trans for sale recently? Basically an A series. Pretty cheap IIRC. Tried searching the archives but couldn't find it. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! > Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 11:20:07 -0700 > From: lists@dinospider.com > > > > I have a Spridget 1275 complete with carbs and gearbox, I have no idea > the year but it has a 10CG (or is it 10GG?) head which implies its a > later 1275 motor, no idea of its real condition but its free turning and > just turning by hand appears to have compression in all 4 cylinders, of > course a full rebuild is in order. > > I am thinking a newer 1275 will have more HP than a 1930's 1500 motor, > it will also be lighter and extremely very easily fit into the chassis > with no permanent mods to the Singer and that the 1275 motor would work > well in this car. When I have done motor swaps it was usually to make a > hot rod with much larger more powerful motors, I have never gone down in > size before am I stupid to try this ? should I find a 1500 motor from > some other make ? There is one of these cars in New Zealand with a VW > 2Litre from a modern car in it but they also swapped the rear axle and I > want to avoid that. > > My goal would be to make it reliable and be able to get to freeway > speeds so I can take it places, if it takes a while to get to that speed > that is ok with me. > > Wow, long message... > > mike > ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 08:05:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A57A443BF for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 08:05:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc4-s13.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc4-s13.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.215]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A93E442B0 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 08:05:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY171-W109 ([65.54.190.199]) by bay0-omc4-s13.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 4 Jun 2013 07:01:12 -0700 From: brian S To: spridgets list Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:01:12 -0400 References: <5197C657.6060509@dinospider.com>, <1370349740.28475.YahooMailNeo@web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> FILETIME=[F8E83AA0:01CE612B] Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mike, I don't think he could use this engine directly out of a wrecked Fit. They are transverse/front wheel drive. They do use it in FF, but it comes converted from Honda's HPD. I was thinking maybe Miata?? Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! > Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 05:42:20 -0700 > From: lotuspilot@frontier.com > To: lists@dinospider.com; spridgets@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related > > Mike, > > I know what I would do. Have you ever seen or better yet driven a > 2010-2012 Honda Fit? That 1500 Honda Fit engine is the ultimate "new" > Coventry Climax 1500. Standard with no tweaking - it puts out 120 hp on > regular 87 pump fuel. They even make all of the stand alone engine control > electronics as it is used to replace Formula Ford 1600 engines. They have to > actually detune the engine to run it in Formula F. The entire engine is > aluminum and it is SOHC with i-vtec. The engine has good torque low end but > wakes up above 5000 revs. redline area begins around 7000. Once the vtec > changes the valve timings it is a serious screamer. The engines from low > mileage wrecked Fits sell very cheaply on ebay -around $500. All you would > need to do is make an adapter plate etc. for a Spridget trans. Even the > clutch looks like a Spridget/BMC part. > > Cool eh. > > Mike > ________________________________ > From: Mike Rambour > To: > Spridgets > Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 2:20 PM > Subject: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related > > > 11 years ago I was a > younger man (pretty interesting eh ?) and I had > a unique opportunity to buy a > very rare 1934 Singer and when you already > own a 1934 Singer and say this one > is rare you know its unique. > > I have not touched this Singer because I did > not want to have 2 cars > apart at the same time and so I told people it was > going to be my > retirement project, well retirement is too far away and I want > it on the > road. The reason I mentioned something about being younger is that > as > I have gotten older, I no longer enjoy the moments broken down on the > side of the road and I enjoy the trouble free driving more so I am > thinking > of doing a engine swap. > > The original motor is a 1493cc 6 cylinder motor of > early 1930's > technology (59 mm. by 91 mm bore-stroke) and I have no idea the > HP > rating of it but it can't be very high. The gearbox is a crashbox with > four speeds with ratios 5.22, 6.65, 10.68 and 19.43 to 1 and 26.4:1 > reverse > with silent second and third gears, no idea the rear axle > ratio. Fueled by > twin Solex sidedraft carbs. The motor has had cracks > brazed in the side of > the block on both sides, the freeze plugs corroded > out decades ago and were > covered by bondo (yes Bondo) to prevent leaks I > assume. I removed the oil > pan and found wood screws jammed into the > block because the oil pan studs > were broken so they drilled small holes > and used wood screws. The oil pump > strainer was cut off (presumably to > increase oil pressure after too much > sludge plugged up the strainer) and > there appears to be a crack between the > number 2 and 3 cylinders which > allows coolant into the oil sump. The motor > can be fixed but its > ridiculously expensive and I want reliability. > > I have > a Spridget 1275 complete with carbs and gearbox, I have no idea > the year but > it has a 10CG (or is it 10GG?) head which implies its a > later 1275 motor, no > idea of its real condition but its free turning and > just turning by hand > appears to have compression in all 4 cylinders, of > course a full rebuild is > in order. > > I am thinking a newer 1275 will have more HP than a 1930's 1500 > motor, > it will also be lighter and extremely very easily fit into the chassis > with no permanent mods to the Singer and that the 1275 motor would work > well > in this car. When I have done motor swaps it was usually to make a > hot rod > with much larger more powerful motors, I have never gone down in > size before > am I stupid to try this ? should I find a 1500 motor from > some other make ? > There is one of these cars in New Zealand with a VW > 2Litre from a modern car > in it but they also swapped the rear axle and I > want to avoid that. > > My > goal would be to make it reliable and be able to get to freeway > speeds so I > can take it places, if it takes a while to get to that speed > that is ok with > me. > > Wow, long message... > > mike > ------------------------ > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bugeye15@hotmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 09:09:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E23443F6 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 09:09:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f181.google.com (mail-ea0-f181.google.com [209.85.215.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C39A5443C4 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 09:08:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f181.google.com with SMTP id a11so296327eae.12 for ; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 08:04:18 -0700 (PDT) d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=WNACdM45AZuPQyR/0SaCedxIIlcyYfyfSFzF7VpDZCE=; b=PA0Pv1oZbGuuS5AXlSC+eZNDbVEg7Vt6frpveFRS2g+JPrwvmX/mqV7zH29tdPzYfk gwm22WJe4QvtqcaRAFyL78S3+z/aZjwSUYd1BRyvvZb9vUGsChO9q1ucZpuXLZQajgUk XLBa7qNaeKy4nJ6BD4udaGBZKaOtueQExeobcXZ9760OSYhm4ldUmFrme6F5x0B55Ptx U53rPbVJa9RHHTrZeu3LsHWIdA5VYArQTVgESlU7O5xWwauGBlqee+h7TqG4nSVvdu9f dxYyk+WKXYJ+3GUpVdug5W1knxN7iqZ19gSeMDjFh1sVeve00P/hDi3K6WMU+w7EmuwY WOfQ== bb3mr27181077eeb.20.1370358258444; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 08:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.15.27.200 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 08:04:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 16:04:18 +0100 From: EASTJONES alan To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] kinda spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net My neighbour (note the spelling I am in UK) owned /owns 2 Singer Le Mans of 1932 vintage but as you say the engine rebuilds are very costly so he has sold one car to pay for the engine rebuild of the other.. Seem to rememberthat the block and head were the problem , splits in the block and cracks in the head. Ithink the firm doing the rebuilld was making a new casting of one or both parts. Naturally made of more modern materials should be a lot better, And it looks like the original. - There are not many north south engine transmission setups available for transplanting over here . So an MG 1275 even with a std 4speed ribcase gearbox should be ok for a 1934 car - depends on the diff ratio of course . I have been thinking about using a 1600cc bmw engine and transmission - should be bullet proof. The current trend is to fit what we call a K series engine made by the defunct austin rover BL or whatever they were called before BMW sold them of to the Chinese. Its one helluva engine as fitted in its 1800cc guise into the MGF car and Landrovers, Also available as a1400cc as fitted in an east west configuration in my MGZR , We have to fit a bespoke bell housing to allow a 5 speed Ford type 9 gearbox to be fitted . But better I think if you can use an engine / gearbox combination already mated. The clutch and starter motor operation problems are circumvented that way Rgds Alan Warwick UK ( 1 mile from the Cape Works ! ) ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 09:50:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F1AB443DE for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 09:50:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CED344280 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 09:44:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home (ool-18ba401c.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.64.28]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MNV00722KU7VBB0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 11:39:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 11:39:40 -0400 From: Michael Rowe To: spridgets list References: <5197C657.6060509@dinospider.com> <1370349740.28475.YahooMailNeo@web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net > I don't think he could use this engine directly out of a wrecked Fit. > They are transverse/front wheel drive I have often wondered why/if this matters. Do they turn the same direction? If so, and the size is reasonable, I see no special reason why we could not just make the same kind of adaptor we do for Datsun 5-speeds. It makes more sense than some of the mamouth things we have seen people put in for fun. Michael Rowe ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 10:21:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33C42443FB for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:21:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtprelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0035.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F99443D5 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:20:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay02.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454A015E797 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 16:15:48 +0000 (UTC) RULES_HIT:69:355:379:599:800:854:967:973:988:989:1183:1187:1260:1261:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1542:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1777:1792:2197:2199:2393:2525:2566:2682:2685:2693:2828:2859:2898:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3354:3653:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4250:5007:6117:6119:6663:6668:7652:7808:7903:8599:8603:9015:9025:9388:10010:10049:10400:10450:10455:10848:10881:11232:11253:11257:11258:11651:11658:11914:12043:12049:12050:12220:12379:12517:12519:12663:12740:12776:13161:13229:13618:13846:19904:19999, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk,SPF:fn,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custom_rules:0:1:0 Received: from [192.168.1.109] (host216-187.lsdepts.ucsb.edu [128.111.216.187]) (Authenticated sender: mikey@rambour.com) by omf10.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 16:15:47 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 17:53:39 -0700 From: Mike Rambour User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <5197C657.6060509@dinospider.com> <1370349740.28475.YahooMailNeo@web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net In my case it would be because I want to continue using the same wire wheels and already spent a large sum of cash rebuilding the brakes with beautiful 13" finned drums that are very visible through the 18" wire wheels. Making the drums alone was $3,200. Switching to a front wheel drive would eliminate that, the goal is not to make a hot rod (I sort have 2 already, not traditional hot rods but really fast), the goal is just to get the car on the road and make it reliable enough for my wife to drive it work a day or 2 a week and also for us to take it up Hi. 1 to Monterey once or twice a year. I am not against switching the rear axle to better match the motor/gearbox combo and I have a late (1974?) MG Midget rear axle that I could put in BUT I will ONLY do that if I can adapt my back plates and use my brakes and wheels to that axle, the MG axle is about 3/4" wider than the Singer one so that is not a issue. I do have a friend with a wrecked S2000 that I could maybe get the engine/gearbox/axle from but before I do that, I think I would just sell the car and let someone with lots of cash restore the original motor and make it a trailer queen. mike On 06/04/2013 08:39 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: >> I don't think he could use this engine directly out of a wrecked Fit. >> They are transverse/front wheel drive > > I have often wondered why/if this matters. Do they turn the same > direction? If so, and the size is reasonable, I see no special reason > why we could not just make the same kind of adaptor we do for Datsun > 5-speeds. It makes more sense than some of the mamouth things we have > seen people put in for fun. > > Michael Rowe ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lists@dinospider.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 10:37:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DDE44425 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:37:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm43-vm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm43-vm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8565443D5 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:32:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm43.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 16:28:07 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.244] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 16:28:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1053.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 16:28:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 42322 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jun 2013 16:28:06 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370363286; bh=o6yg5pwuQ+HvM6GzWgPvGnw7hVXv7un2F24EEQj+ue8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rBzXQbLtbK0xl5WfwGHs6wZhAvwJ/U4BSiFPAOeUbX6Wzf1i7iVW2k/mdCMp3wO/gh550+P5DznMGmQe4yT2ZH9QZIw2mz+AUpdCJz4ny2ptr1WbyMxQ2q/8a9uT6IbHLN9NwzY1ZMifKIbdv5gqAspVLUhvJbDeEnd8N5WBslE= NFxaG.TuAcTCrxWQsgrDPjGSzleozM7BlyBDH121PZ2OmEPs7c8JwAyOeOU2 BsOAjvs5DH7loXnIaQ79rQYqTOEbmNe7ZLQQ1qI_DMVJCYTGElWKAzewkwK_ 4k8FaUGdogE4WIryBJzEIuRLU.TJ_ImSIjl.A57XjZY5x2Cg6CqQdo623Hsi x8HgEwpQziOO5FFJrazYG9jjh8oAduuF9uKHDZSf8hE3U383Nz2tVvtcZiv. wYDdfsYygU6q6agRxrzne0TjY7PGNepOyW7JDrGJoBXGaUhgEyLGTCmxDMPh f9wmCHOMIlLSeFHzLAhWh7g3b8afJNcZ_yQ_uBXTR8RTR0EIl_dDp0yNNfi8 Bsbvy1jP.2DEaTezzOrK2dAYJXEcKTvmZUgJ7IeR7vmdSimKe0cgITce_GEy pn0hbr94m4DBDWqzSRdpaVVosoY0uWAl2Kake0uhgcMss8pjpd8lVleR8NF8 DWMbBlSlmEnS2Q3Y9p6YlqpgHCqKb16dpibgiBhqcqCY- Received: from [64.135.241.60] by web161003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 09:28:06 PDT VGhlIEhvbmRhIEZpdCBlbmdpbmUsIEkgcmVhbGx5IGJlbGlldmUsIHdvdWxkIGJlIHJpZ2h0IGF0IGhvbWUgaW4gYW4gTEJDLsKgIFBsZW50eSBvZiBwb3dlciwgbG93IHdlaWdodCBhbmQgc21hbGwgc2l6ZSwgYWxsIGFsdW1pbnVtIGJsb2NrIGV2ZW4gZG93biB0byB0aGUgb2lsIHN1bXAuwqAgSWYgeW91IGxvb2sgYXQgaXQgYW4gYWRhcHRlciB3b3VsZCBub3QgYmUgdG91Z2ggYXQgYWxsLsKgIEkgbmVlZCB0byBlbmdpbmVlciB0aGUga2l0IGFuZCBtYWtlIGEgdG9uIG9mIG1vbmV5LiAuIC4gLgrCoApNaWsBMAEBAQE- References: <5197C657.6060509@dinospider.com> <1370349740.28475.YahooMailNeo@web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 09:28:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "lotuspilot@frontier.com" To: Michael Rowe , spridgets list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net The Honda Fit engine, I really believe, would be right at home in an LBC. Plenty of power, low weight and small size, all aluminum block even down to the oil sump. If you look at it an adapter would not be tough at all. I need to engineer the kit and make a ton of money. . . . Mike ________________________________ From: Michael Rowe To: spridgets list Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:39 AM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related > I don't think he could use this engine directly out of a wrecked Fit. > They are transverse/front wheel drive I have often wondered why/if this matters. Do they turn the same direction? If so, and the size is reasonable, I see no special reason why we could not just make the same kind of adaptor we do for Datsun 5-speeds. It makes more sense than some of the mamouth things we have seen people put in for fun. Michael Rowe ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 10:42:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94AEF44453 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:42:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm41-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm41-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.158]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1504041B for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 10:42:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.145] by nm41.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 16:38:00 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.209] by tm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 16:38:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1018.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 16:38:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 78005 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jun 2013 16:38:00 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370363880; bh=7eJePBNbNzVp4bY/NM5md3hPFsD2C/y+cIFP75t6/yY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WSrzzIbdEAmzLRQBW7yWJEo5sFCMrwAuyy80UBniYt0IvwR5K9+4EL+UqGNP/GtJnsypGHT6CfghElZXdx8jgCG0fDdMQphjCgEoH/uNKNcYP+qwkx5ssVV/Npuv4DQDBeRIM36/ad8KvZEz693oc5IpxPnfgutACPTLtT3TBjQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=d4prNY29fPns77JsC382w0zP/3ki0K+v0cMATImtKvxyPWmslreBTM54HTELc2dQa1a3nbmXd4zN1UUetlB7c+fyzl+Of0fpOHlMtuSacrk2LM4L95Vak+s2Nk2HjCoTvWb3WlCxXP1KT4Y3uCS9r9cQmkaKzimi4ze07Y/egtQ=; QxIsUtBt0vEs6gWAZjEyufDnT3eKZVxQlTD7MDciYE4m7CROFlSCu4ig2KBX F2.4XCkFwyfen1kbi0ExrQMRl68R.sA_01z0fH99aCKiTJzDShcNc2NYoRHW jE43ESUR2xpU7IbcDbKRJE7glgMqg5t37ZStsCmZoqUSSSzMN73Jh1o3dlef 591AHmCosAfsRPrBzPpCbmRvQbnW63JZhC0nPBVlUz3UzblQFZAJ7hjeOj9M 61.gYm5hIjmZ3S6dUUY1hw1_ifD16tQSK2hDehUZe8cDMvUfRm6Zh3K1BXHe h1Glc.jSvbWaKh8_YrUKd5WJjALXQe_cchCvWdI9ilKE.ua7tyG08gy6WY8w kpYOAWKkd8IPDZBNyLnfIpDSmhpBJWKuPjYT5ZX6rhlW.DVpp_b9HXE37Iug GMO9G5acVSt3EqNBQOdCi5hoDcCDEEBpp7csuMd9OMZ5SCPzHJwbXOtD5RX7 NCEpYaoZRnzEpBBsr8sLdBD5qU7LCr0vX0VmtyqfQC1fqpWfKUKmZZ52B2YY r7IzZitBvHEvENjOs2Po_XakJ3qtOQrFvl1pqxC3KoE8f5TYtdrCihutOEX8 TrWN93ovkJvrt.Nl73i_1bLYZLyCdKQ-- Received: from [72.248.191.253] by web141404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 09:38:00 PDT TWlrZS4uLiBBIHdyZWNrZWQgUzIwMDA_IElmIGhlIGRvZXMgbm90IHdhbnQgYSBmb3J0dW5lIGZvciBpdCwgSSdkIGxvdmUgdG8gYnV5IHRoZSBlbmdpbmUgLyB0cmFubnkgLyByZWFyIGF4bGUgLyBldGMuIGp1c3QgdG8ga2VlcCBmb3Igd2hhdGV2ZXIgcHJvamVjdCBjb21lcyBhbG9uZyBkb3duIHRoZSByb2FkLiAoVGhlcmUgd2lsbCBvbmUgZGF5IGJlIGEgc3VwZXIgc2V2ZW4gLyBjbHVibWFuIGluIG15IGdhcmFnZS4uLikKCgpGcm9tOiBNaWtlIFJhbWJvdXIgPGxpc3RzQGRpbm9zcGlkZXIuY29tPgpUbzoBMAEBAQE- References: <5197C657.6060509@dinospider.com> <1370349740.28475.YahooMailNeo@web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51982293.9090507@dinospider.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 09:38:00 -0700 (PDT) From: David Booker To: Mike Rambour , "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mike... A wrecked S2000? If he does not want a fortune for it, I'd love to buy the engine / tranny / rear axle / etc. just to keep for whatever project comes along down the road. (There will one day be a super seven / clubman in my garage...) From: Mike Rambour To: spridgets@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related In my case it would be because I want to continue using the same wire wheels and already spent a large sum of cash rebuilding the brakes with beautiful 13" finned drums that are very visible through the 18" wire wheels. Making the drums alone was $3,200. Switching to a front wheel drive would eliminate that, the goal is not to make a hot rod (I sort have 2 already, not traditional hot rods but really fast), the goal is just to get the car on the road and make it reliable enough for my wife to drive it work a day or 2 a week and also for us to take it up Hi. 1 to Monterey once or twice a year. I am not against switching the rear axle to better match the motor/gearbox combo and I have a late (1974?) MG Midget rear axle that I could put in BUT I will ONLY do that if I can adapt my back plates and use my brakes and wheels to that axle, the MG axle is about 3/4" wider than the Singer one so that is not a issue. I do have a friend with a wrecked S2000 that I could maybe get the engine/gearbox/axle from but before I do that, I think I would just sell the car and let someone with lots of cash restore the original motor and make it a trailer queen. mike On 06/04/2013 08:39 AM, Michael Rowe wrote: >> I don't think he could use this engine directly out of a wrecked Fit. >> They are transverse/front wheel drive > > I have often wondered why/if this matters. Do they turn the same direction? If so, and the size is reasonable, I see no special reason why we could not just make the same kind of adaptor we do for Datsun 5-speeds. It makes more sense than some of the mamouth things we have seen people put in for fun. > > Michael Rowe ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lists@dinospider.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tncarnut1@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 11:10:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1579444C2 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 11:10:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m09.mx.aol.com (omr-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789BC4310D for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 11:03:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by omr-m09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E281070071383; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 12:59:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-doa001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-doa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.211.1]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 982F0E000083; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 12:59:05 -0400 (EDT) From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 12:59:05 -0400 (EDT) To: dlh2001@comcast.net, spridgets@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1370365145; bh=i7LFXWdNqnHGDGfdM2qzniv1LSqwnH2QUHlSkzahuLc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fy9bdXpBBAyhR/9Ni6wUbuyllFn5KBiFe5mUO1Zf7bpYlu1Xsi9mswOmEAfzLDSL/ ioUb//WbJqzNA7arpRV62IoDlYjeWqtgMsz3srJJkbuFT9Dc7FxUGzqOxnsxB4Qsj7 VmNUC+1NBtVv7DiUL2rNDHtJxTHibXMvuMY6q9yM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d51ae1cd956a5 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I agree, even though I prefer modified cars. If I was contemplating an engine swap I'd go for something 'period correct' and probably British. Weslake-Monzq 1330 In a message dated 04/06/2013 00:09:36 GMT Daylight Time, dlh2001@comcast.net writes: I think for a car of that vintage you should locate (and perhaps upgrade) an original motor. I just don't see it being that less reliable than an A-series. I realize it might be difficult to locate another motor, but I would at least give it a shot. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 13:00:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C28340419 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 13:00:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm44-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm44-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3DD40403 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 13:00:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm44.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 18:55:32 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.204] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 18:55:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 18:55:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 21183 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jun 2013 18:55:32 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370372132; bh=uzCYSeEnA/ajdrjIugPyRNuDFiscp0uS3PxkETEvZoE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sh/r/+tZV4HEJ3S1helvnbnxVR4s9l7jIfKOxZjerbvRmOKpm35JPowndAosxEns+ZXPUZL4x/suwmzKGq6rzbpNcW8EXmQv1hgbIFL85+QTKNnafXEpJHu69FUZkVA2PLC/63b98+NNW5mcKHs9RdNaPOfbjnY/jqU8vAUuqJ4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qgYqM5TelDxI8koWD8apzG7eEbiWCvuxonhm7mddnYusHNos1vCsFIae7au//Mn/u1L890x5rXiZ2x6B7RFjVunOm3ox/q+aWWj73YJyyXjbiYXLBOK7WRAr9mO+kMq7kIxTAggqgaYnLdc631QFYBc0NxEkb1eFkotNY8kNrqU=; aTpv5CVgRt3BsUqNBRzikhVpcZRuswJQBOmzLAp3u.mzu2i0C9L.ekXC0Rs2 8orZ.btJCwKF1ACJ6o9JeouV5pkLG8gK5AANZCrJdOIRk07qzD_ytrU6wbFf liFJjsbNSDccCQkRF4wK78tJeNu_WeJsOwdJIK6XqNwBoYZTowliB7eXnupU BfR_y32nap3uTPoBIdp0kHSgwnYsmb9yF4PXYTHsItGap7LkWQHL8ErlQm3N 8bOs5J3miQ4UcKzdJoR_YrDgGKSa5chWdDnN_T1p0X_jkw4Sg_OSGgGcMV_G MqaG4n40j_QL_9cRCq4LywR3.wso.RGc_d1rGArAWE_HVN2DO3.iBjzGCQaW dJsF6JItkNMV0CtQQs36Vk7OC7tTVgcOdS3qIk3G8o3nf4Rj5VmCMkDHoj8y Ib.5GWPacGPiZ1gsmv.pthyHS_h7rmpp1X4JTC4Wnxd9dQURdKY9riKsvlHE q10Q4SnBtTxXwghKKofhAh7zPV_sdSO5Tk9nHvOxStuuveaD17EwSaalb8Yc 71BP2p8h4YEvGH1iYHA1f3iGT8YbG7jCk3gWCed4_gwoPh5z48n.Rd46z..N CEbdINd88lbc9RBDm7mXnCLfehbVBLKoZ0DSev3qOeZ9YH6pYxoBP_5NhGM4 unRlWvrngPM5KhxQ9F.cJqkZSZEpg_JQOULS9QPMyK91_kHfcqfj4WRaUQh9 yEw-- Received: from [206.23.12.68] by web161306.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 11:55:31 PDT SGV5IFNvbWVvbmUgZ3JhYiB1cCB0aGF0IEFsdW1pbnVtIFYtOCBhbmQgYnJpbmcgaXQgdG8gbWUgaW4gVGVubmVzc2VlIQoKIAoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIEZyb206IFJpY2sgRmlzayA8cmVmaXNrQGNoYXJ0ZXJtaS5uZXQ.ClRvOiAic3ByaWRnZXRzQGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0IiA8c3ByaWRnZXRzQGF1dG94LnRlYW0ubmV0PiAKU2VudDogRnJpZGF5LCBNYXkgMzEsIDIwMTMgNDowMiBQTQpTdWJqZWN0OiBSZTogW1NwcmlkZ2V0c10gTGlzdGVyIEdvbmUKICAKClRoZSBzYWwBMAEBAQE- References: <75C3DD10-B32F-4B67-B29F-5B0D5FF86DFA@gerardsgarage.com> <6377F191-84AD-487D-9DAE-0516331108D5@chartermi.net> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 11:55:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Red Midget To: Rick Fisk , "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Lister Gone**** Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Hey Someone grab up that Aluminum V-8 and bring it to me in Tennessee! ________________________________ From: Rick Fisk To: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Lister Gone The sale of Roger's stuff is scheduled for tomorrow. http://www.detroittriumph.org/Events/Cotting%20Garage%20Sale.htm Sent from my keyboard On May 31, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Gerard wrote: > Sad news. > > I remember Roger from many years ago when he used to post somewhat regularly. > Last message from him was around 2007. He seemed like a great guy. > > Gerard > > On May 31, 2013, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request@autox.team.net wrote: > >> 1. Lister Gone (JohnD) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 22:52:10 -0400 >> From: JohnD >> To: Spridgets >> Subject: [Spridgets] Lister Gone >> Message-ID: >> >> >> >> Maybe I missed this, if it was posted on the list....I just learned that >> one of our group from long, Roger Cotting of South Lyon, MI, died awhile >> back. He was one of the so-called "Ann Arbor BugEye Boys" and a decent guy. >> Understand his wife is selling off a barn full of Spridget stuff, including >> a couple of BE tubs. >> JohnD > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/redmidget72@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 13:13:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96E694043A for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 13:13:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1290E40425 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 13:08:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home (ool-18ba401c.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.64.28]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MNV00I0NUA95K60@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 15:03:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 15:03:43 -0400 From: Michael Rowe To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <5197C657.6060509@dinospider.com> <1370349740.28475.YahooMailNeo@web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51982293.9090507@dinospider.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net >Switching to a front wheel drive would eliminate that, I don't think anyone is advocating a front wheel drive, just turning the engine to north-south and mounting a standard transmission of some kind. Michael Rowe ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 13:46:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF3E428E6 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 13:46:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.184]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82E0C4042B for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 13:39:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm24.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 19:35:10 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.9] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 19:35:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 19:35:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 42704 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jun 2013 19:35:09 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370374509; bh=dh+kkWdjeywYwgBMlS/90HBgiw6jDtheh8/uESgOOgc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=M9ZjOA40LcUmkFYtrxbEI+6yidBbBguahTGn0hGI26vZMJOY3A+ssH2cGvWvXUgJck6+9K4Bw+tMM3pYHvvQgnXDbid7Q+qjNG4Mx4ppVIteBhkxLBP3j6RHP51Ei2dvLlJLA40LhuPn+MZWQGhagyTJUryy0XJ9zIgaPn1vUwM= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=f3k5Q9+4q/CkKoBmWzvRL5uu64W+JVrXN4YyTlHGEwziXsNvm1adjAXCTPU3g+HokB/Zeggs2pVvRdPZdJ/vPZwqmuaQzzCRvMD3xEjyyZXr4BG9MJk+iXiy76FLjNtrHmKJevLy72H/5e5I/nu3oM7xQ+E51LjreTUQkxYVs/s=; ea68HngBQp9Ccxi6aFQ8Dsm76YRngXS00eCjfTLqwuX1j8cxLIRbh7jHSpAc 9.chzV98On13z3XV_hOtXwCdjVRe3fiuyCJdD8q_O7JJq_3LCzryHWKuU_ON QvG9hBsgALExLofY1.nXxlTRC4jySwEa2UGCpO63OJGfuUdtilj24uCVzBAq mpklk8EmKFJkcfShnnU1XVw8Jp.2AMFFplLj1pOx1CkNUeXWDtBvroFsHZbC O3YJKQS8yKnGPFar80vCKVJs7.dtGaOHTe.T.io9Lu6YLFPGtjglR3yHcWTt 8RcFafFUgQ9OpLFX5mIT0HVYgdxO4BCEDv70yWOigzgaz1G2AuAEeEEwnKRy mIU21tuJ470_jUj9Hlr0Fx4idiISv92CLRIxYGJYmKYaEHSV7MaxAjyZ75z_ gDMMUj4MJO5pQFpDECwcMuDlQ0MAyZvyryt2qEvn4v2.nOeihexVPBzAxg2V aB_YdENmBsYn4nESGMNflJwGpVu8_B6IHyz3IbsL3oMCy7UHHT2MSaxSYmEM TisFVkigQqxwCuwZGtpWfUhPe0N_ZvyzRXZxuLEYjDhdxu31Vk2TCkPPeyCk doItS7L9FR1GXts4qc8jKswa0SQum9yNDv19NevqbXiYAqY5AhhXhTy0mCdD pZrJBs_geE95D7O6v6I_.PXesR3cGH1J19PIRO959B.rh.vDQJSuTyqI01I_ XHKomiswspzqSEMqi2Dt5HA-- Received: from [98.216.127.124] by web124702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 12:35:09 PDT TWlrZSwKCkkgR29vZ2xlZCB0byBzZWUgd2hhdCB5b3UgaGF2ZSBhbmQgaXQncyBhIHZlcnkgaGFuZHNvbWUgY2FyLsKgIE11Y2ggdG8gbXkgc3VycHJpc2UgSSBmb3VuZCBvbmUgd2l0aCBhbiBBIFNlcmllcyBzd2FwIGFscmVhZHkgZG9uZSBhbmQgYWxzbyBmb3VuZCB5b3UgYXMgYSBzaXRlIGFkbWluaXN0cmF0b3Igb24gdGhlIHRocmVhZDrCoCBodHRwOi8vZm9ydW0uc2luZ2VyY2Fycy5jb20vdmlld3RvcGljLnBocD9mPTMmdD02NzjCoCBJIHRoaW5rIHRoZSAxMjc1IHdvdWxkIGJlIGEgZ3JlYXQgc3dhcC4BMAEBAQE- References: <5197C657.6060509@dinospider.com> <1370349740.28475.YahooMailNeo@web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51982293.9090507@dinospider.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 12:35:09 -0700 (PDT) From: HealeyRick To: Mike Rambour , "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mike, I Googled to see what you have and it's a very handsome car. Much to my surprise I found one with an A Series swap already done and also found you as a site administrator on the thread: http://forum.singercars.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=678 I think the 1275 would be a great swap. Horsepower would be about the same as original and the motor doesn't have that modern OHC look. Best of all, somebody has already done the swap before so you won't need to reinvent the wheel. I just can't see putting something like an S2000 motor in a car like this with an old chassis and marginal brakes. The 1275 will let you get it on the road, not overstress the platform and be reasonably reliable. Once you start trying to put a modern fuel injection motor in there you are well on the way to building a hot rod that doesn't seem to be like the direction you want to go in. Looks like a cool project. Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo ________________________________ From: Mike Rambour To: spridgets@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related I do have a friend with a wrecked S2000 that I could maybe get the engine/gearbox/axle from but before I do that, I think I would just sell the car and let someone with lots of cash restore the original motor and make it a trailer queen. mike ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 14:47:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F890403F8 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 14:47:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtprelay.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0047.hostedemail.com [216.40.44.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3442403C6 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 14:41:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay02.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D1B3B62C; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 20:36:59 +0000 (UTC) RULES_HIT:72:355:379:599:800:854:962:966:967:968:973:983:988:989:1147:1187:1189:1208:1212:1221:1260:1261:1313:1314:1345:1359:1431:1436:1437:1516:1517:1518:1535:1543:1575:1588:1589:1592:1594:1685:1711:1730:1776:1792:2068:2069:2194:2196:2199:2200:2525:2527:2568:2627:2682:2685:2693:2859:2902:2933:2937:2939:2942:2945:2947:2951:2954:3022:3138:3139:3140:3141:3142:3354:3586:3769:3770:3865:3866:3867:3868:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:3934:3936:3938:3941:3944:3947:3950:3953:3956:3959:4029:4118:4250:4321:4385:4605:5007:6657:7652:7903:7974:8531:8599:8603:8957:8985:8987:9010:9025:9060:9108:9121:9388:10011:10400:10450:10455:10462:10464:10848:11216:11218:11232:11233:11658:11788:11854:11914:12043:12517:12519:12555:12663:12740:13025:13139:13161:13229:13279:13618:13870:19904:19999, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk,SPF:fn,MSBL:0,DNSBL:none,Custo Received: from [192.168.1.109] (host216-187.lsdepts.ucsb.edu [128.111.216.187]) (Authenticated sender: mikey@rambour.com) by omf08.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 20:36:58 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 22:14:50 -0700 From: Mike Rambour User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130329 Thunderbird/17.0.5 To: HealeyRick References: <5197C657.6060509@dinospider.com> <1370349740.28475.YahooMailNeo@web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <51982293.9090507@dinospider.com> <1370374509.38006.YahooMailNeo@web124702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net You are correct its been done on the Le Mans, not just on Rory's car on that link you listed but also my 34 Le Mans has A series motor, so I already have done this swap before (well I never finished the swap, the motor is in but the body is not finished). BUT now I want to do it on a 6 cylinder Singer, a much bigger Singer. The Le Mans originally had a 972cc 4 cylinder motor so the A series swap is a no brainer. The reason I asked was because I now want to do it to the 6 cylinder car. I think it was agreed to by most on this list that the power will be fine, even though I am moving down in cc's, I am moving up 30+ years in power and it will work. This is the car its going into http://singer.rambour.com/4str/ I am leaning towards the 1275 and a 5-speed from Gerard, I think it will work. Oh and the best part, I get to remove the 1098 from other car and put back in a ORIGINAL motor now that I have one to put in, so I get to keep one original car :) mike On 06/04/2013 12:35 PM, HealeyRick wrote: > Mike, > > I Googled to see what you have and it's a very handsome car. Much to > my surprise I found one with an A Series swap already done and also > found you as a site administrator on the thread: > http://forum.singercars.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=678 I think the 1275 > would be a great swap. Horsepower would be about the same as original > and the motor doesn't have that modern OHC look. Best of all, > somebody has already done the swap before so you won't need to > reinvent the wheel. I just can't see putting something like an S2000 > motor in a car like this with an old chassis and marginal brakes. The > 1275 will let you get it on the road, not overstress the platform and > be reasonably reliable. Once you start trying to put a modern fuel > injection motor in there you are well on the way to building a hot rod > that doesn't seem to be like the direction you want to go in. > > Looks like a cool project. > > Rick ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 15:51:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8564D42A18 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 15:51:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C189240418 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 15:51:10 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=AwXuRUq2X8FaEtU9Xif74UomIuKBX6uQWb/oDAS+8RS+2W6il1YeaWlwfF09aFh7; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [128.95.226.232] (helo=richball) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Ujz3s-0000Et-PM; Tue, 04 Jun 2013 17:46:36 -0400 From: "Richard Ball" To: "Mike Rambour" , "HealeyRick" References: <5197C657.6060509@dinospider.com><1370349740.28475.YahooMailNeo@web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><51982293.9090507@dinospider.com><1370374509.38006.YahooMailNeo@web124702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <51985FCA.3060009@dinospider.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 14:46:40 -0700 Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net The GM Quad 4 might be a nice fit if you have room for a T5 transmission. It has good power and support, and has that vintage Offy look when you strip the top cover off. Check out the Quad 4 Rods link. The FAQ section list the engine size. http://quad4rods.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_Quad-4_engine Rich Ball '76 Midget Everett, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Rambour" To: "HealeyRick" Cc: Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] kind of spridget related > You are correct its been done on the Le Mans, not just on Rory's car > on that link you listed but also my 34 Le Mans has A series motor, so I > already have done this swap before (well I never finished the swap, the > motor is in but the body is not finished). > > BUT now I want to do it on a 6 cylinder Singer, a much bigger Singer. > The Le Mans originally had a 972cc 4 cylinder motor so the A series swap > is a no brainer. The reason I asked was because I now want to do it to > the 6 cylinder car. I think it was agreed to by most on this list that > the power will be fine, even though I am moving down in cc's, I am > moving up 30+ years in power and it will work. This is the car its > going into > http://singer.rambour.com/4str/ > > I am leaning towards the 1275 and a 5-speed from Gerard, I think it > will work. > > Oh and the best part, I get to remove the 1098 from other car and put > back in a ORIGINAL motor now that I have one to put in, so I get to keep > one original car :) > > mike > > On 06/04/2013 12:35 PM, HealeyRick wrote: >> Mike, >> >> I Googled to see what you have and it's a very handsome car. Much to >> my surprise I found one with an A Series swap already done and also >> found you as a site administrator on the thread: >> http://forum.singercars.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=678 I think the 1275 >> would be a great swap. Horsepower would be about the same as original >> and the motor doesn't have that modern OHC look. Best of all, >> somebody has already done the swap before so you won't need to >> reinvent the wheel. I just can't see putting something like an S2000 >> motor in a car like this with an old chassis and marginal brakes. The >> 1275 will let you get it on the road, not overstress the platform and >> be reasonably reliable. Once you start trying to put a modern fuel >> injection motor in there you are well on the way to building a hot rod >> that doesn't seem to be like the direction you want to go in. >> >> Looks like a cool project. >> >> Rick > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rich_ball@mindspring.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 4 15:55:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9367A40E01 for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 15:55:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm12-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.126]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 753A74044D for ; Tue, 4 Jun 2013 15:54:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.106] by nm12.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 21:50:20 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.174] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 21:50:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp108.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Jun 2013 21:50:20 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370382620; bh=PuehrUHiHZPT6DmW0l2uDgaDdS+jh+bCnsh2b/t+9lM=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=lDOO6j3YEfjNNkog+dqAfPyUM/kslDJLJK7y2Y5cMgUmZ10XBXACLgQdA5wFwcschJKNO2OV4/ao7HZ96z+L5fedft5v1T2bWBSpEuSmjVmD3GjBj5ugJLcaLqLc3pf/tOCT1BIPaYyCVsQWI7RH7dsGfGGWRReGzHtauiSKuqc= 6sydwm8jDY0W3XmsoYcvoFSgYPjO1xaoFaorjeW608HdZRSRzHNZc1ZN4aCQ UrGES9d_nAJwHgEJYRrY26fVPziLItDgpnpkIuMT0CydMGvV5Za1V5aWL9oA isyuynqVC4NgQTgYVYFPTZfSsPoP8RSGLzGv7KMkX3eYw4asaZUY39F_3XWJ VhCAqoz_LUwbzySe2s8r5AB_rgluhu3F7oGfDtMGgsq5wOb2ob7lyMh6Em3p L8Vs5MmnicB0an5jfCV5Hxgg6VwKwQK6N4cajBx9NTrYfoXr30NVQJ53ysnL OqCsu6PvKOmfOJu0AGk4N2tFZnAoJDV.tnSYo4R6492IrZHspFo_DewU_X3M 1NKawvq44xXzoS_7m.gtzj8T7qxMhVsdMLDNjWtY2_vRIZ5VcrniA88WKfvW jW1mX2sIJ1lpL.aW7jVRxrZim0hVVRaWUUlV5krD.66_hR2NAZDszAn072y2 pK0c49e2QBkWbp3ahSzS04m.roA3AC0rYa8.4AJMCBzHTY_FaeSr7Rf6AHqn PsqWedvR4bF2WEuxVNO6J88kHrly1vuu7BDMLThOe4js.gorg8j5UYl9L9FK 0upPjJBTqaFXlM16uF84.pzWNBxVdJruPYIIUec8mCax5EphxJSZt_P9LnKP aMbj8Tc4ASw-- smtp108.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Jun 2013 14:50:20 -0700 PDT From: "Larry Daniels" To: "Red Midget" , References: <75C3DD10-B32F-4B67-B29F-5B0D5FF86DFA@gerardsgarage.com><6377F191-84AD-487D-9DAE-0516331108D5@chartermi.net> <1370372131.19813.YahooMailNeo@web161306.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2013 16:50:19 -0500 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Lister Gone**** Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I've got two of them for sale in WI. Come and get them! ;-) -----Original Message----- From: Red Midget Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 1:55 PM To: Rick Fisk ; spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Lister Gone**** Hey Someone grab up that Aluminum V-8 and bring it to me in Tennessee! ________________________________ From: Rick Fisk To: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Sent: Friday, May 31, 2013 4:02 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Lister Gone The sale of Roger's stuff is scheduled for tomorrow. http://www.detroittriumph.org/Events/Cotting%20Garage%20Sale.htm Sent from my keyboard On May 31, 2013, at 2:10 PM, Gerard wrote: > Sad news. > > I remember Roger from many years ago when he used to post somewhat regularly. > Last message from him was around 2007. He seemed like a great guy. > > Gerard > > On May 31, 2013, at 11:00 AM, spridgets-request@autox.team.net wrote: > >> 1. Lister Gone (JohnD) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 22:52:10 -0400 >> From: JohnD >> To: Spridgets >> Subject: [Spridgets] Lister Gone >> Message-ID: >> >> >> >> Maybe I missed this, if it was posted on the list....I just learned that >> one of our group from long, Roger Cotting of South Lyon, MI, died awhile >> back. He was one of the so-called "Ann Arbor BugEye Boys" and a decent guy. >> Understand his wife is selling off a barn full of Spridget stuff, including >> a couple of BE tubs. >> JohnD > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/redmidget72@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ladaniels@sbcglobal.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 5 12:17:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A6140411 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:17:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90D7F4052F for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:01:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home (ool-18ba401c.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.64.28]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MNX0093TLVCMA40@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 13:57:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 13:57:08 -0400 From: Michael Rowe To: Spridgets list Subject: [Spridgets] Alternative engines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Some time ago, I realized that jet skis have small, high-rpm, water-cooled fore&aft engines that are readily available. Some are pretty big. I just read about one that has 300 hp. I haven't a clue whether or not any of these might make sense. Does anyone know enough about jet ski engines to comment? Michael Rowe ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 5 12:20:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7612642A16 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:20:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f171.google.com (mail-ob0-f171.google.com [209.85.214.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5BF340359 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:20:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f171.google.com with SMTP id dn14so3160899obc.30 for ; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 11:15:52 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=0Cc5EO4fXcVhtIueMdIUfqVWxhAXTHRSPp2M+it+Kxc=; b=PjK+XQnt65yoqCxporHKhyt2522uJQ5gsg5PKlJyJ5WpSO/s2GmtJq/nlINjo+y6B/ ic8dgq4xWNcNwdlshihH9t8Ppm55fsfMKujx88vgCCoOe+AMOxkIB2V0LBaMxV3+zhCP iQzv/BsRH2ztA8Tq3zDFBIHBzR3nOSIvwG1BTiTV84q83mtnCdZfBBJtzbN5Rje8Fwqa b/o21OUTozx0lE/pQSUM6AquteqbSOvM1vrkV6X2awc9PxELcDlvs57TEZMEE5mk/GSQ q3hJ0uoRFXJIaavESgbj4N7zsJKYkl32LKXBfi62tjUJIhgnjbDEnhafKun+fsfl8urF smyw== gi6mr15524261obb.18.1370456152363; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 11:15:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.148.129 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 11:15:52 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 13:15:52 -0500 From: derf To: Michael Rowe Cc: Spridgets list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Alternative engines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Many are two stroke. The others look like Honda car engines to me. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Some time ago, I realized that jet skis have small, high-rpm, water-cooled > fore&aft engines that are readily available. Some are pretty big. I just > read about one that has 300 hp. > > I haven't a clue whether or not any of these might make sense. Does > anyone know enough about jet ski engines to comment? > > Michael Rowe > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 5 12:32:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380454052F for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:32:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f170.google.com (mail-we0-f170.google.com [74.125.82.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C9B840411 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:24:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f170.google.com with SMTP id w57so1601953wes.15 for ; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 11:19:31 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ZWXeMCQOjk69/kZx/Q1mb2D94CHuAtPtzhBKHek/KjM=; b=gX8PCaaTH6dPO4Hma8z9ji6XgK/++QHx76VHGr7vtzmls1CHhpfUIypBv66x8r3snF lIEPF43uW9arsKWOMybPpVnrwDlrlBSq+KMdwxbt9I5mALoNCnVlpuPCFDrz8GNrr8ZH x00v6U5U1jt7OoF1Syy7ZJezrRHz2/84kF5kA9IhUF8bYkuHS2esAJ8HnXCScsWJ6/WX q+Kvx6DwRHRK6v54eaclNt5n2ifF00NvfQPqTZif2TURD568f9v5fxr3DPOT9uOSiOU9 CcUK3Xkc8Pu7GomB+mhor/jP7mgX/lRMoRU89ZtnDvzJP7iS6QjFeY7eL+m/Gmcpicm5 hJew== wr2mr30379929wjb.57.1370456371103; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 11:19:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.37.231 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 11:19:31 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 14:19:31 -0400 From: CosmicMag1380 To: Michael Rowe Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Alternative engines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I have a Kawasaki ST12F. It uses a modified 1200 Ninja engine. The current model uses a 1500... I don't think that you could easily convert it to use it in a car. Plus, the 4 stroke engines are not cheap like the 2 strokes are. Kent On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 1:57 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Some time ago, I realized that jet skis have small, high-rpm, water-cooled > fore&aft engines that are readily available. Some are pretty big. I just > read about one that has 300 hp. > > I haven't a clue whether or not any of these might make sense. Does > anyone know enough about jet ski engines to comment? > > Michael Rowe ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 5 12:32:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A36EC40545 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:32:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 413A540411 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:24:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9F336700406B8; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 14:19:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dod001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dod001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.161.1]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5D46BE000089; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 14:19:39 -0400 (EDT) From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 14:19:39 -0400 (EDT) To: mdrowe@optonline.net, spridgets@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1370456379; bh=8BEz4B1oblgaHt3rElKNUzDNwIXYqnaiypPT19u+pbM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=i58RfDKMesIOAnLb3ERquy6UXfgnGty/9ZaTZjryYj0Hfef3Y9gbSIonkYDVdCsyz 9e4LfBazJnjnPsk6VHkR5TH71lkMxtK+MmRz2zdU+j47PPJABHTetK3HQH9tBzIuek 57JM1AtGFtkUCFoXcNicVLcBhspGfioxSwl7tS8I= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294851af813b5b61 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Alternative engines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Are they 2 strokes? In a message dated 05/06/2013 19:13:01 GMT Daylight Time, mdrowe@optonline.net writes: I haven't a clue whether or not any of these might make sense. Does anyone know enough about jet ski engines to comment? Michael Rowe ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 5 12:32:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F9842761 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:32:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m03.mx.aol.com (omr-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEED94042F for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:25:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.77]) by omr-m03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A60D170036201 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 14:21:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dod001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dod001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.161.1]) by mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 516FCE000086 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 14:21:07 -0400 (EDT) From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 14:21:07 -0400 (EDT) To: spridgets@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1370456467; bh=fhZDeHk2cKWvDI0DTxOXL0IPIrtZOLl3bE8aiDLhm7s=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uwuA5B8X+/FbHr2qB01rHwLt/mrXNnd8NKF7tEAqAWoVoPEl2cRDm2c1zbnwdvPVC FojWRTAREHDymT9/SF2N4foMUv/h6eVNPh0K5YGOKrDlSFJIylP2QXw13T/b+wOQZY oX+mtDYIskVPt+FAaFTxyEWgn4q+8q27w0JoC890= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294d51af81935eef Subject: [Spridgets] USA/British WW2 aviation story - no LBC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I thought this was a real treat and brought a lump to my throat. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie3SrjLlcUY Weslake Monza 1330 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 5 12:34:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D96042A2C for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:34:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f182.google.com (mail-ob0-f182.google.com [209.85.214.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46D16403F8 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 12:33:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f182.google.com with SMTP id va7so3135119obc.41 for ; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 11:29:00 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=WMdiWIXusi0bJvBEuW0fh9dCRFUmzvkD6+WZH4jwXlQ=; b=sxtUvH3Tck9EBVlypSgEkzVK2TR9Am0kEB4d4BUEUgMa+gqu0VYHLYiZdtH3R3G7o7 6OzY/7jRLaAvtX26qqQ8QlfWeBJVVfnl7VUm8k6MoLultHHl3d5DnZILJY4/96ss23Xa 9CllgBQDi6RZyZurGyVVzshc1Wt8PpMfus8NnySNCtKgmaAD8sjpyAWgkGaVrLUeAxcP OhFZqWbHSiK896fIH9jkFYXqhyBQ5yi6wL6EdCDeE6/YjxpIxZrOqaulaHKOvyedIh3U x5Bvx+2szdJ5JPYPh7QEwPvFJHdRPsiwWf02QBgdUkyX9kedRCnMnAfwgESGy23yaeCX 4AgA== pt1mr15460541obb.3.1370456940389; Wed, 05 Jun 2013 11:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.148.129 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 11:29:00 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 13:29:00 -0500 From: derf To: "WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com" Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Alternative engines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Most are two stroke. The power to weight ratio still favors two strokes in many marine applications. On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 1:19 PM, wrote: > Are they 2 strokes? > > > In a message dated 05/06/2013 19:13:01 GMT Daylight Time, > mdrowe@optonline.net writes: > > I haven't a clue whether or not any of these might make sense. Does > anyone know enough about jet ski engines to comment? > > Michael Rowe > ------------------------ > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 5 13:19:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7809C40568 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 13:19:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from email.mtu.edu (mx1.mtu.edu [141.219.73.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A214A40407 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 13:19:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TIM2.mtu.edu (adsl-75-51-101-55.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net [75.51.101.55]) by email.mtu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4782B5982 for ; Wed, 5 Jun 2013 15:14:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2013 15:15:01 -0400 To: spridgets@autox.team.net From: Tim Collins Subject: [Spridgets] O.T. Vehicle Recall Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Folks, My In-laws have a 2002 Mercury Sable LS that is leaking oil. A search on the Internet indicates that this is a common problem because the oil pan gasket wiggles out of place. The Father-in-law worries about these drips and is frequently having me check the oil. (He's 91) He's had the car at a shop for this problem, not the dealer, and the guy "couldn't say for sure" what the problem was. The drips amount to a small mess on the garage floor - no big deal, but it worries him. So, I began thinking about other problems I learned about the car - some serious. (coil spring known to break and puncture tire, but not the subject of a recall) I know where to find recall notices and complaint notices about a vehicle, but is there a way to find out if recall service has been performed on a specific vehicle? I can't ask dad without causing a great amount of worry and he's likely to give me an answer that has nothing to do with the car anyway. I suppose the dealer must record repairs made under a recall, but I don't really want to go to the dealers to ask about a car I don't own. Is there an on-line solution? I have the VIN. Tim Collins ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 08:15:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2503C40329 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 08:15:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2681C40079 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 08:10:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id l1ev1l0041zF43QAA25jf8; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 14:05:43 +0000 Received: from [10.1.10.187] ([75.151.210.78]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id l25i1l0011i2L2K8k25iu0; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 14:05:43 +0000 From: Lester Ewing Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 09:05:41 -0500 References: To: Spridgets s=q20121106; t=1370527543; bh=Cvqqo0rHZGfdyeifPOGhM4pkDsaqlaFgGUFV6G05LH0=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=WGuUyE2tRYrZnT91L0V9FQmLUYjaODyhFslnAac9u9xvZ65vjZrs3sk+eZYJwmPcV iDXvFPeAMpWyjYZMFlffCIZEBYEC7maCPwSPwrsPAlbDg8LOXQHDk41XowQhD0leIX SIMfvQ4axcmBt/6GMi2uv7um8sqkc5mVQR5aT1lNDx5zQakFp2zu8kRLxlJ51nzHEu v8rPqFFWtEZkVMSgwWMB4sJgz/70faBowc1kRwXeRV+P3sAMxP3fQwF1clPOU3YYdl 361S6i8rIgDEP1763WMCiUturu+id8dW60EavpHMnEa3zBBXKAyMEnjBEjyJsSrvPX XsUOSjSwQEJrg== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Alternative engines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net MMMmmmm.. two strokes.... Lester On Jun 5, 2013, at 1:29 00PM, derf wrote: > Most are two stroke. The power to weight ratio still favors two strokes in > many marine applications. > > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 1:19 PM, wrote: > >> Are they 2 strokes? >> >> >> In a message dated 05/06/2013 19:13:01 GMT Daylight Time, >> mdrowe@optonline.net writes: >> >> I haven't a clue whether or not any of these might make sense. Does >> anyone know enough about jet ski engines to comment? >> >> Michael Rowe >> ------------------------ >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247@gmail.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy@comcast.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 08:54:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07C2403D4 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 08:54:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.246]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 563B340323 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 08:54:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm24.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2013 14:49:37 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.232] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2013 14:49:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1047.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2013 14:49:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 37065 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jun 2013 14:49:36 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370530176; bh=3A/ZtY2lB+SqWvqrPSXIIHfuXQESHQLqZ/a18qzs8bQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rgh/RW42WaXNTnQbX2IlqA7ysuMQwUenXeYduBOU+/Cw0JlN/jqqyOxR4yDeiGyV6zWhCNl/Nl+M0l57kZZW5ph7WLfPGI0OyiDzV0cnt6YGqVRk3nYgo8crQQNYPGuoLDviLolGug3Wb+8QOuKl2oEHvUO7FNGfp0GRNq0fUQ0= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Z6zuWgWzUW/eR4+gP2LTuDa/Fytmm+2UsxxIGgHwGlIpbvtpVnbY+hIzfaQPrwyK1RhfWDnunPdyqXvN1usP/advd/GJwFEBycY5w9COlUGGzyx0JG5FvQUBDt3uM92NF2r8OqPljH7sKEmNSBH9bltjg724HdBn4uA8XN904sQ=; lt_V7gvMtoabJ5LBpxgGcaAayt8aahJZS.DTViAMo92hx93kIVvNFtpA5o_f kfWgyPGHUlbUxL4X5xyrpUdr7zyUk4TqCW658srVvjJqvtV1dULKy5.FZomb zJ4EznkrNch9wX4JyADYcw4EtCpDBcOGwzKwWBiDtSZAaWlq4R27ozIMvOe9 ocEnKCHgJjFA8zbtdbGb5_9a4H2.ZpkeQG7qHY6i68C6yzBLgXdcPY2gsWaf C4YM0Z9tqxFkwsQtGXazMGUFAr2OikxA8TaCNPQ4olgmsXzgDprR_.HXgaKg _6rIZulTiyip3EAyxWQ6i469RfyLiKeEghiRbH2j8_faBB1LXtUQ.74_gFHx e8xzOJjUAP2.kFq9SHidcqVvwbOInw2Tp7kvQJ_xR0i3aVUUSz0Ar4I1zwre tYEAfrbSx62hpfHmYaqc5sN9jwq3LWjmKBo10gXGsTAcqLuNQqfcPMhw3tZL 8qHfTR4Bkcxhrtn7eYWJZqFgKo8Z7d6oVu6qkfZRkEvhUG5ppmvtQmp6pbQq K26lm0DspA9tUKLQzBW3H_pjca9s4lU3_a2tfo8rKstXXo1DX1pM47O57qoA U Received: from [173.161.75.221] by web122102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 07:49:36 PDT VGhlIGRlYWxlciB3aWxsIGhhcHBpbHkgdGVsbCB5b3Ugb3ZlciB0aGUgcGhvbmUgaWYgYSByZWNhbGwgd2FzIHBlcmZvcm1lZC4gSSBkbyBpdCBhbGwgdGhlIHRpbWUgZm9yIHVzZWQgY2FycyBhbmQgYmlrZXMuCsKgClJvbiBTb2F2ZQpSb3Njb2UsIElMCgoKIkl0IG9ubHkgZ29lcyBvbmUgd2F5LiIKIlBheSBpdCBmb3J3YXJkLiIKCgo.X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KPiBGcm9tOiBUaW0gQ29sbGlucyA8dGhjb2xsaW5AbXR1LmVkdT4KPlRvOiBzcHJpZGdldHNAYXV0b3gudGVhbS4BMAEBAQE- References: <20130605191944.F394F40E16@autox.team.net> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 07:49:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron Soave To: Tim Collins , "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] O.T. Vehicle Recall Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net The dealer will happily tell you over the phone if a recall was performed. I do it all the time for used cars and bikes. Ron Soave Roscoe, IL "It only goes one way." "Pay it forward." >________________________________ > From: Tim Collins >To: spridgets@autox.team.net >Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 2:15 PM >Subject: [Spridgets] O.T. Vehicle Recall Question > > >Hi Folks, >My In-laws have a 2002 Mercury Sable LS that is leaking oil. A search >on the Internet indicates that this is a common problem because the >oil pan gasket wiggles out of place. The Father-in-law worries about >these drips and is frequently having me check the oil. (He's 91) He's >had the car at a shop for this problem, not the dealer, and the guy >"couldn't say for sure" what the problem was. The drips amount to a >small mess on the garage floor - no big deal, but it worries him. > >So, I began thinking about other problems I learned about the car - >some serious. (coil spring known to break and puncture tire, but not >the subject of a recall) I know where to find recall notices and >complaint notices about a vehicle, but is there a way to find out if >recall service has been performed on a specific vehicle? I can't ask >dad without causing a great amount of worry and he's likely to give >me an answer that has nothing to do with the car anyway. I suppose >the dealer must record repairs made under a recall, but I don't >really want to go to the dealers to ask about a car I don't own. Is >there an on-line solution? I have the VIN. > >Tim Collins >------------------------ > >spridgets@autox.team.net > >Donate: >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 09:27:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5196B40333 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 09:27:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc1-s22.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s22.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.33]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A4440066 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 09:19:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY171-W77 ([65.54.190.61]) by bay0-omc1-s22.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 6 Jun 2013 08:15:10 -0700 From: brian S To: Tim Collins , spridgets list Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:15:09 -0400 References: <20130605191944.13E164271A@autox.team.net> FILETIME=[A30729E0:01CE62C8] Subject: Re: [Spridgets] O.T. Vehicle Recall Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tim, As Ron said, a call or trip to the dealer with the VIN, they can pull the history of dealer performed service of a vehicle. Ford's is called OASIS. oil leak could be pan gasket, axle seal, drain plug.... Sounds like it wants to be a British car. ;-) One worry I would have on the 1996-2004 Taurus's and Sable's, is the brake lines, especially if it sees any salt. They rust underneath the drivers door area, to the point of failure. I had this happen to my 1998 SHO years ago. Ford sells a prebent kit for this area. Coils springs on these cars are cheap and easy to replace. $50-70 for a pair. HTH, Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 15:15:01 -0400 > To: spridgets@autox.team.net > From: thcollin@mtu.edu > Subject: [Spridgets] O.T. Vehicle Recall Question > > Hi Folks, > My In-laws have a 2002 Mercury Sable LS that is leaking oil. A search > on the Internet indicates that this is a common problem because the > oil pan gasket wiggles out of place. The Father-in-law worries about > these drips and is frequently having me check the oil. (He's 91) He's > had the car at a shop for this problem, not the dealer, and the guy > "couldn't say for sure" what the problem was. The drips amount to a > small mess on the garage floor - no big deal, but it worries him. > > So, I began thinking about other problems I learned about the car - > some serious. (coil spring known to break and puncture tire, but not > the subject of a recall) I know where to find recall notices and > complaint notices about a vehicle, but is there a way to find out if > recall service has been performed on a specific vehicle? I can't ask > dad without causing a great amount of worry and he's likely to give > me an answer that has nothing to do with the car anyway. I suppose > the dealer must record repairs made under a recall, but I don't > really want to go to the dealers to ask about a car I don't own. Is > there an on-line solution? I have the VIN. > > Tim Collins > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bugeye15@hotmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 09:42:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1697E40415 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 09:42:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm24-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E06340421 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 09:28:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.107] by nm24.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2013 15:23:44 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.85] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2013 15:23:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1022.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2013 15:23:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 8410 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jun 2013 15:23:43 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370532223; bh=2hvWNGdkUmBunQmhsU33p/ZWi+aPi/DnudN++It0o44=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HJEHaOk5dGFAVf2ckk7jsIPqiENOGWUjVbfD7m8gMJYT4CHxZcTCIb8U21p6enbMNQLNUueY9/JYFNtnRnrFhfwHFVPfu18rLhpBFBC+vg8+ssl36T12Z6Q39LgHjU7NWIcukAzanEUvAE8J9ivrE/7gG7PfKGISEDenSQEdDE4= s=s1024; d=snet.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KFOlUDQZxDO4UOPs6Mtp+t/72j6vuNFfG3dB2HqAMcZ1Dzct+1l7nUGN/MSxQBo5otuFmcyzUyYyIZdUoHau2JpFZDsH1fAbFBTbvzyHd8wrweB3FqZD0W2f1xys7eTsBjyPwztX/NNZFH86/5ey/sFZ10qBpNgkTENwOLEFrS0=; 7bWiPiZF3_PI6zZHy7EunoSnpkfr9goFacKDwdvOBYvcBaFgpI.dCdyb48c9 r4YhfGdFl5rO1YLg9qWtLuvWbFEKqDd7EfoGrqg9W14XKMbk5WvF3JwZJFmX SVqf9rrwn8QLF4STSwLToW_paqkKGdFemG_7dr9Pc2PW5kjdjluxdrOj5K2Q Sktoa.eOkL_McyJpwJ1CyniHvBJi31sGA6JDEX98biCvmuI2OxuGTwh3WwhL y46t7NbTL2ETLEtVJdIw487wy4viwfXjtyiXnE4WpMVklxoS2a2XL9yEgGPK pw5eii6pndPDZkg5ebStrLWuQuBk3nawjwTAwaiN_iLX6PfMNavr1DJN5YtC vkkZ6u13pZGOBwqqolW6C.dvpuKHnxeAup0yr1n16Q5.sfoRbYd1TM4_WQia AqRoHq_mkSWu_n_S_I.grpz3_Bvm5T6.2k7KhYuCHd3DOGRNNxMLh2Aq.77R CK2D2DrXFnk8CJp7z67OyqtX8WO4.THgX6NfL64Hk5NYTRnoD3PqWliUkfMN TDNe5Gk9IND2uO2UmduD2CtumA6AHeUDHe0hd.KnW6L0- Received: from [69.0.36.132] by web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 08:23:43 PDT QSBmcmllbmQgaXMgdHJ5aW5nIHRvIHN1YnNjcmliZSB3aXRob3V0IHN1Y2Nlc3MuIEhlIGZvbGxvd2VkIHRoZSBpbnN0cnVjdGlvbnMgYXQgCgpodHRwOi8vd3d3LnRlYW0ubmV0L3NvbC9icml0aXNobGlzdHMuaHRtbAoKSXMgdGhlcmUgYW4gYWx0ZXJuYXRpdmUgbWV0aG9kIHRvIHN1YnNjcmliZT8KCiBqYXkKATABAQEB Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 08:23:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] How to subscribe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net A friend is trying to subscribe without success. He followed the instructions at http://www.team.net/sol/britishlists.html Is there an alternative method to subscribe? jay ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 09:43:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3F084039F for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 09:43:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc4-s6.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc4-s6.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E9DF4003E for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 09:39:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY171-W74 ([65.54.190.201]) by bay0-omc4-s6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 6 Jun 2013 08:34:29 -0700 From: brian S To: spridgets list Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:34:29 -0400 References: FILETIME=[55EB2500:01CE62CB] Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Alternative engines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Many older ones are 2 stroke. Small. compact, lightweight. But even if they are 2 stroke, almost all have oil injection so you don't have to use premix. Newer Kawasaki and Honda and Yamaha ones have turned to 4 stroke motorcycle based engines due to tightened emission regulations. Twins, triples and 4 cyl variants They run the gambit of normally aspirated, supercharged and turbocharged. If you could figure out an adapter from the output shaft to a clutch assembly, it could be a wicked ride. Like you said, anywhere from 80-300HP! Newer, higher HP ones aren't likely to be cheap. Brian S. Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! Thanks to Frank C.! > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 13:57:08 -0400 > From: mdrowe@optonline.net > To: spridgets@autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Alternative engines > > Some time ago, I realized that jet skis have small, high-rpm, water-cooled fore&aft engines that are readily available. Some are pretty big. I just read about one that has 300 hp. > > I haven't a clue whether or not any of these might make sense. Does anyone know enough about jet ski engines to comment? > > Michael Rowe > ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 09:56:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 383CE40411 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 09:56:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f50.google.com (mail-oa0-f50.google.com [209.85.219.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E0140074 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 09:46:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id l20so2348372oag.37 for ; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 08:41:26 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=KJbcdbAAm2jhuXoq0Xeucraz/wmQTJqDYqN6oN7H1Nk=; b=Hwl0NQlhx3X4SiNVrTJHUkr7eYaw1NUoWMb6yB0fpcq5ufleuZiNUMYz4h3LAJE19z syYmE440fbcHJRg4DJDOIcrXYRDiLiLGxljZTN/3/nKGSXTT/0z8cZuMcMjnPiJPgGdG iePKuIbnp2IQoKA1fPeH658V5EPm8QBZxEsBV88s2/zylcxrku7eEO1Q0HwGjYu7HUry 3iU448CzZbCj/IwfVcn6VisQ0UArMU1JTUFDomPX7b7AV7mJvovqmTVADEd1AwsX7uy2 lDnOEfPsgQofJ0Tlgwikyjvf17/buoUY23jjMsnCRbLH1CcY3tShRjYw5kyPg4k+bXQM pObg== Thu, 06 Jun 2013 08:41:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.148.129 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 08:41:25 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 10:41:25 -0500 From: derf To: brian S Cc: spridgets list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Alternative engines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I'm partial to the Mazda three rotor Wankels. I don't think they were imported to the US, though. On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:34 AM, brian S wrote: > Many older ones are 2 stroke. > Small. compact, lightweight. > But even if they are 2 stroke, almost all have oil injection so you > don't have to use premix. > Newer Kawasaki and Honda and Yamaha ones have turned to 4 stroke motorcycle > based > engines due to tightened emission regulations. > Twins, triples and 4 cyl variants > They run the gambit of normally aspirated, supercharged and > turbocharged. > If you could figure out an adapter from the output shaft to a clutch > assembly, > it could be a wicked ride. > Like you said, anywhere from 80-300HP! > Newer, higher HP ones aren't likely to be cheap. > > Brian S. > Bugeyeracer finally resto'ed! > Thanks to Frank C.! > > > > Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 13:57:08 -0400 > > From: mdrowe@optonline.net > > To: spridgets@autox.team.net > > Subject: [Spridgets] Alternative engines > > > > Some time ago, I realized that jet skis have small, high-rpm, > water-cooled > fore&aft engines that are readily available. Some are pretty big. I just > read about one that has 300 hp. > > > > I haven't a clue whether or not any of these might make sense. Does > anyone > know enough about jet ski engines to comment? > > > > Michael Rowe > > ------------------------ > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 10:11:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDD1B40417 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 10:11:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm43-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm43-vm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.238]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9D14032B for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 09:59:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.153] by nm43.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2013 15:54:34 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.240] by tm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2013 15:54:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1049.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2013 15:54:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 64974 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jun 2013 15:54:34 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370534074; bh=tldkLUyJkdOSBl7SnJshyBNEWFB5MTOzh2MCc8xb11U=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=s8VQLrDfU5dZ0wFPDsPkwbbgA2+CeXXmkRgdjfdygzz1sSi2CI4I1rwjY+AVK/ZLS/WN2ODqZ9SbLvnS3H6cmzgNIKWrz+RuhJYhjNoYGG1gQN3eYxBYNGit+e08EtNCqJrqhj3qc02KXGZpfKht4uhfRm6DnnlkCFU7u0CNO/I= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=I7NAN/8OJr0RjEqitwDiona7aTZm4MVFBBnA3CfZl9LTM6SKmOoup8Nv1lM3d/WoarpNCAxrjd0nsWFaL/Iy5iC4sVpUnw6YKlPEGPDoXzDGWcTfYfIXcMNrjbJc31J2xqoFBfjT9o/gORL3qrqLbHUkk35H6i32ejqw9JT3orc=; dKPSO_NauYIxFLkDwk3KFCE8uPEOtVni1_YiVsF244cWOyZs.ZC.AjT23Naf zwb0c5lEZUlIdFN5uWO16cmqWGSDXKg3IwfgU6Dhx9CIvFy4yoFY8qH6nA14 PhtClIVD2W0dv8bIpyOXQHb_6_m0ew6I5kH9j7E6SNlism_eqv_LWHgXLmI7 aZ5PTjRKx1_13WWk8r_ehpulHOxTpZ9QW2FIppfTKdvZEEWms2v3smCGVH2U 2oJ1uEwS24g1PIAv75jm.dGyy79CvzvYkIV2RiFvn50t9L3cp6zrdXvkSOK5 oYI1WyAIa2L_Ntr98GXOnSCv_Zby1JDyLBTtLplF4FKt4DAkIa2QSLUVZI25 NzGJT3inhFSeRITemXUCGI3EmGEW6j0esiWYnTjtw47M0p6rJBJU1HPrLLT3 XyKPZYxAeeAg2h_FxP7BKcvhBMMHeQV.B3ltI3MJyzpaZMQPrOornqTytf4o x1SKIqIuqiXU4ZvwNcwpCe0KY3NmSO5pm45TvTVEFmKQa_melRTbLFkUzuuH vidr3gDfu.rhDmp76AgBzlUq4fEauc1zllvrKxn5m71954mpnM88dj5hxQep UlqRt5EP1365iuoy8gVxvSMb3gfIxj6vMYle9vqRRF2v51Rp8pYXaRbgGhLT mISdYIuQKNNKQMIqeqGB.EHlffPBPv76jN5N3MIEfVK26RaVrYfrRUNwyt3I HEGJO1MiOFhpwRLTw Received: from [24.136.88.12] by web140403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 08:54:34 PDT wqANCsKgDQpBcyBsb25nIGFzIHdlcmUgZ29pbmcgb2ZmIHRvIG9kZCBiZWQgZmVsbG93cy4NCsKgDQpIb3cgYWJvdXQgYSBES1cgTW90b3IgJiBUcmFucyAtwqAzIGN5bGluZGVyIHR3byBzdHJva2UuDQoNCkkga25vdyBteSBTIGNvdXBlIHdlbnQgZG93biB0aGUgZnJlZXdheSBhdCBvdmVyIDcwIE1QSCBhbGwgdGhlIHRpbWUgd2l0aCBubyBwcm9ibGVtcy4NCkkgZHJvdmUgaXQgdG8gU2FuIEZyYW5jaXNjbyBEcml2aW5nIGFib3ZlIHRoZSBzcGVlZCBsaW1pdHMgYWxsIHRoZSB3YXkuDQpQZW9wbGUgZnJlYWsBMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 08:54:34 -0700 (PDT) From: To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Alternative engines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net As long as were going off to odd bed fellows. How about a DKW Motor & Trans - 3 cylinder two stroke. I know my S coupe went down the freeway at over 70 MPH all the time with no problems. I drove it to San Francisco Driving above the speed limits all the way. People freaked out when i passed them up the hills. 3 coils & points so easy to trouble shoot if it was electrical. And the best part is there is only 7 moving parts.......... --- On Thu, 6/6/13, Lester Ewing wrote: From: Lester Ewing Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Alternative engines To: "Spridgets" Date: Thursday, June 6, 2013, 7:05 AM MMMmmmm.. two strokes.... Lester On Jun 5, 2013, at 1:29 00PM, derf wrote: > Most are two stroke. The power to weight ratio still favors two strokes in > many marine applications. > > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 1:19 PM, wrote: > >> Are they 2 strokes? >> >> >> In a message dated 05/06/2013 19:13:01 GMT Daylight Time, >> mdrowe@optonline.net writes: >> >> I haven't a clue whether or not any of these might make sense. 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Vehicle Recall Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tim, Your could use: http://www.aras360.com/resources/vehicle-recall-database.html I don't use it because it is UK vehicles I need to know about - but I do use their animation software. Hope it helps.... Guy R Day > From > Tim Collins <> >To: spridgets@autox.team.net >Sent: > Wednesday, June 5, 2013 2:15 PM >Subject: [Spridgets] O.T. Vehicle Recall > Question > > >Hi Folks, >My In-laws have a 2002 Mercury Sable LS that is leaking oil. A search on >the Internet indicates that this is a common > problem because the oil pan gasket wiggles out of place. The Father-in-law > worries about these drips and is frequently having me check the oil. (He's > 91) He's had the car at a shop for this problem, not the dealer, and the > guy >"couldn't say for sure" what the problem was. The drips amount to a >>small mess on the garage floor - no big deal, but it worries him. > >So, I began thinking about other problems I learned about the car - some >serious. (coil > spring known to break and puncture tire, but not the subject of a recall) > I > know where to find recall notices and complaint notices about a vehicle, > but is there a way to find out if recall service has been performed on a > specific vehicle? I can't ask dad without causing a great amount of worry > and he's likely to give me an answer that has nothing to do with the car > anyway. I suppose the dealer must record repairs made under a recall, but > I > don't really want to go to the dealers to ask about a car I don't own. Is >>there an on-line solution? 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Unfortunately the Team Net Mailing List Manager found through that link doesn't seem to be working either. :-( jay ________________________________ From: Trevor Jessie To: Jay Sent: Thu, June 6, 2013 12:27:42 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to subscribe http://www.team.net/tn-mail.html On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Jay wrote: A friend is trying to subscribe without success. He followed the instructions at > >http://www.team.net/sol/britishlists.html > >Is there an alternative method to subscribe? > > jay ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 11:37:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B464403A5 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:37:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm4.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm4.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.131]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17BE340333 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 11:34:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.106] by nm4.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2013 17:29:46 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.91] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2013 17:29:46 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2013 17:29:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 30969 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jun 2013 17:29:46 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370539786; bh=oEeXmO0bJrqXFBMOiYXN3LUuhmZ+EbSFctRK8jJ/IYQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pNl2bVNbdtfnOvBhrt5k1txMDE0kcfy8daP14UkbCc7lCvjpHidmc9f4GryxRtuiqlfZ+0PTzIp62QU2fsRMyAuCn2dA/GJ9A8x5XjmdHZjihjrcGGEEjZAPCmq+09kqTpkngRSW/3VuIMrw6ITiPD/3CbrjD0S0CCT5xhwwSBs= s=s1024; d=snet.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4O44qjRmF2g+8Svi34SWRvNzXVmN6p79g4dcDW2590GGprDIiJt6Ajb65L3p4dzVmO4dLz/QCs73cR6Swl9zrC6wmgmQ18zLiE+1gGthdDXF13Lgw3syawKuXRkDpt/wz5tbY6LpFgrfPZWuH0j1pGie+0i7GkDFIOSuvgbJ1Tg=; p_XNC7adgI6Z2NeZBHIswWOsNv0iIkL5ksXfVQZj_nV2baCvyzN.aRZgGvri Tmtu1ikOO_YKxVXkl1H1oejPRUmorjdNpV1W59FPVXLRcCasjP6NTX3yjJ1C aNFOUHQmJWoxeyRpOIKau.Tds.h5oAMiBxFcJyB4vINTFaukKKT6hynBPaDr YaWYUw_tJ4FiemISJzmJHd7qQmBp01pI6wKB361OCTnfeHonSI.mPQ8hmfrw aSx2k.O0zn9LNcxDPNpEKabiM5pz3FLd8oeEOaJnSHrRxYigA36Ir2A.zwnE 3egNRdhzuy86.pS05CKWWxe1Boxw2u9EafJIEMVk4_M.MsktaErXrtSj5Odl tNy412eA4orLP0Zg722quol8blEDfF4_Gz.2UV2ZyK33mZqnHttrosFLQZ2e wLFOT1Pl9QzGBD7bEybI211mhF6ecZkViwq5gdJbuZVDZInFo_yFa2tzjbgh OsxDhmsnlEu4XmjeV2AIV38ptYv5ttKX8ChQHNWg0v5pppcWtR3M0lAcjfq6 YLBEg04cBsOdvHK8- Received: from [69.0.36.132] by web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 10:29:46 PDT CgpUaGFua3MuCgpUaGF0IHdhcyB0aGUgcHJvY2VzcyBoZSB1c2VkIGFuZCBJIGFsc28gdHJpZWQgaXQgd2l0aCBubyByZXNwb25zZSwgdW5sZXNzIGl0IApzaG91bGQgdGFrZSBtb3JlIHRoYW4gYSBkYXkgdG8gZ2V0IGEgcmVzcG9uc2U_CgogamF5CgoKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwpGcm9tOiBUcmV2b3IgSmVzc2llIDx0cmV2b3IuamVzc2llQGdtYWlsLmNvbT4KVG86IEpheSA8amZpc2hiZWluQHNuZXQubmV0PgpTZW50OiBUaHUsIEp1bmUgNiwgMjAxMyAxOjI2OjE3IFBNClMBMAEBAQE- References: <1370532223.74484.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1370536932.45505.YahooMailRC@web181304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 10:29:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] How to subscribe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks. That was the process he used and I also tried it with no response, unless it should take more than a day to get a response? jay ________________________________ From: Trevor Jessie To: Jay Sent: Thu, June 6, 2013 1:26:17 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to subscribe You don't need to use the mail manager application, you can just follow the directions: To mail to majordomo to subscribe (or unsubscribe) to most of these lists, send an email message to the request address, with your request in the body of the message like one of these: subscribe british-cars [your email address] >subscribe british-cars-digest [your email address] >or to get off a list: >unsubscribe british-cars [your email address] On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Jay wrote: Thanks. > >Unfortunately the Team Net Mailing List Manager found through that link doesn't >seem to be working either. :-( > > >jay > > > > >________________________________ >From: Trevor Jessie >To: Jay >Sent: Thu, June 6, 2013 12:27:42 PM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to subscribe > > > >http://www.team.net/tn-mail.html > > > > >On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 11:23 AM, Jay wrote: > >A friend is trying to subscribe without success. He followed the instructions at >> >>http://www.team.net/sol/britishlists.html >> >>Is there an alternative method to subscribe? >> >> jay >------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 12:40:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B5A40397 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 12:40:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy12-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy12-pub.bluehost.com [50.87.16.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1006640042 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 12:31:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 6596 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jun 2013 18:26:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy12.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Jun 2013 18:26:25 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=OInyoJDnaGN9BvSOO/u7Pf8FjGAfDt4lhA7/iYacmSI=; b=hgKWRv8iHkEFixE9dhXz+jcJGtyDXySmfWd8JT+s6VysGjhE/qMBp6Db2nDnBuomKnpNSQz0YOcsOpSLy6GeVApC/PThiuOrczvM/1COW/5KDcz0u5Dc0YSBDDlbMirg; Received: from [24.15.13.164] (port=36605 helo=[192.168.0.106]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UketF-0004rt-FA for spridgets@autox.team.net; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 12:26:25 -0600 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 13:26:29 -0500 From: "\" Just Brits \" Shop" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <1370532223.74484.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with sales@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to subscribe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net << On 6/6/2013 10:23 AM, Jay wrote: > Is there an alternative method to subscribe? >> Boys, boys, boys ........ ! ! Wait 'til MJB sees some of the WRONG posts - LOL ! ! "majordomo" has NOT been around for a number of years ! ! ! Use THIS ! ! ! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX spridgets-request@autox.net NO: "Subject:" Body: subscribe To get OUT is the reversal of above - LOL Just un-subscribe Me ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 13:18:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A41B40398 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 13:18:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from email.mtu.edu (mx1.mtu.edu [141.219.73.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216A84003E for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 13:17:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TIM2.mtu.edu (adsl-75-21-163-254.dsl.sgnwmi.sbcglobal.net [75.21.163.254]) by email.mtu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 60B1C3C3B for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 15:13:15 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 15:13:28 -0400 To: spridgets@autox.team.net From: Tim Collins Subject: [Spridgets] Miata Fastest car? sorta Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Had to laugh at this Mazda ad. The tag line is.. . . . . "When is a stock, 167-horsepower Mazda MX-5 Miata quicker than a Chevrolet Corvette, Ford Mustang,Lamborghini Gallardo, Lotus Elise and a Porsche 911? When it's raining. Sort of. " http://tinyurl.com/lroq95g (found on the Autoblog web site) The reason it was so funny to me is that with my Sprite, the race might be between the Lotus and my Sprite, but I suspect the Lotus would be faster. Tim Collins ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 14:17:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1D3403A5 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 14:17:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com [208.47.184.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDDC540382 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 14:16:52 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=uNDRMDcTydBxl51UUbVgMA==:117 a=uNDRMDcTydBxl51UUbVgMA==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=2SD_oyDbm74A:10 a=YTHtZiAxaJsA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=I_5RNyk1AAAA:8 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=MqWahhvhaGoA:10 a=Y5MgZJihTP5FCdZFIawA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp03.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=adrianjones747@centurylink.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [71.49.180.151] ([71.49.180.151:45980] helo=AdrianJonesPC) by smtp.centurylink.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES128-SHA) id 58/5F-12753-A1DE0B15; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 16:12:11 -0400 From: "Adrian Jones" To: References: Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 16:12:08 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5i0j+Z2t8WUy8yTJiBZoqHFMwotgAH6JDA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Spridgets] USA/British WW2 aviation story - no LBC Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wow! Thanks for posting. The look on the guy's face is priceless. Very cool video indeed. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 14:35:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C83B40406 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 14:35:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm18.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm18.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.219]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812F5400A5 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 14:34:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.192] by nm18.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2013 20:30:17 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.103] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2013 20:30:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jun 2013 20:30:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 82021 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jun 2013 20:30:17 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370550617; bh=9Oy6f3V6r/W46hDb1Mhq2zXzhq0e1UmfptvhQ/sWlQ8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RUD7w4fzA3Uyx8H2zFHYUUAJ7rstG8f1JZAPjSU9UNIQgikTnfEC63Lnz/rfhE7QRBM3sd9M2AaaJ8jjoxTr0M/TnpyQgauRTePOZO3iwFlihYauz0Y63cZ08gYdpwY7Y3e2mTINeaBtk8NjCooY7R2l/PXu5/Xu2vbh2zpBaNk= s=s1024; d=snet.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lgZhRWNSB1mox7QLmXAY1BwKXyx7kiNTTbIW6AW2sWVvbJ5ti/gFSapNWCIc9bJQnjmsdtufhHPdXySTSehpdJ/h696PczSteAKrVSxEJ88b0yQY/Hw1LZcNlHC4mWeNPysz1KtlswlI6cP3UBMj7CHP7I0SGpKJeH+24wKGc2A=; TAn1ntKchS1o7oLTXDgCh9qJRHp0dRZtizBUN65YNVv4CLfuICN3RxKE_HDv nPeehjU3NPZQDL.MJEpd9UUrmArEOlSYIQTTACchXotJgPV0nNZlpEp8RSHf 5tiki0Orj3gmu.osziQyV0lB_tGNOyJnTJg4mzh40iSv1rMUC9Fa3aGvo1d4 KAmHkKUsOf3dKtrQ8k.f8Q3_Jd9Lq3K5rwYtn1VHyDsmBbzKkjUECmEdQl6f g6mjx5GS1niYDkFq0vdjGm7pCLQyww634SLNtz_C2NcjYlu9qrwudqRiib9h QZlpA2trIPh2S1x2eSOfRKqM_ZZ7sHnbgmv4vP1PkFcUgkoejNsKgzyV34N_ 27sCfPSBIO3ZQLND2uUZA2EZqq.qZqG2FBaQ2nKGfvRgGVEhQxtk7_N3d0tA htnOTJaLeDjfb2J7HyfVEqvmyfUADxau.kh5saAhKoER2y2Bzy5DDU0i.1b2 DKGjCiPCGys_4f5uaoBcNSA-- Received: from [69.0.36.132] by web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 13:30:16 PDT VGhhbmtzIGJ1dCB0aGF0IGRvZXNuJ3Qgd29yayBlaXRoZXIuIFNlZSBibG93OgpqYXkKCkZyb206ICJNQUlMRVItREFFTU9OQHlhaG9vLmNvbSIgPE1BSUxFUi1EQUVNT05AeWFob28uY29tPgpUbzogIApTZW50OiBUaHVyc2RheSwgSnVuZSA2LCAyMDEzIDQ6MTQgUE0KU3ViamVjdDogRmFpbHVyZSBOb3RpY2UKIApTb3JyeSwgd2Ugd2VyZSB1bmFibGUgdG8gZGVsaXZlciB5b3VyIG1lc3NhZ2UgdG8gdGhlIGZvbGxvd2luZyBhZGRyZXNzLgoKPHNwcmlkZ2V0cy1yZXF1ZXN0QGF1dG94Lm5ldD46ClJlbW90ZSABMAEBAQE- References: <1370532223.74484.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <51B0D455.50302@justbrits.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 13:30:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to subscribe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks but that doesn't work either. See blow: jay From: "MAILER-DAEMON@yahoo.com" To: Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:14 PM Subject: Failure Notice Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address. : Remote host said: 554 5.7.1 : Relay access denied [RCPT_TO] ________________________________ From: "" Just Brits " Shop" To: spridgets@autox.team.net Sent: Thu, June 6, 2013 2:36:00 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to subscribe << On 6/6/2013 10:23 AM, Jay wrote: > Is there an alternative method to subscribe? >> Boys, boys, boys ........ ! ! Wait 'til MJB sees some of the WRONG posts - LOL ! ! "majordomo" has NOT been around for a number of years ! ! ! Use THIS ! ! ! XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX spridgets-request@autox.net NO: "Subject:" Body: subscribe To get OUT is the reversal of above - LOL Just un-subscribe Me ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 14:42:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C11E94042A for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 14:42:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f175.google.com (mail-ea0-f175.google.com [209.85.215.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3C96403DE for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 14:42:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f175.google.com with SMTP id d15so3002412eaj.6 for ; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 13:37:46 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=g0OP19msVKjmWen2jPqXi0wJ0z2DcHBbNWAlv0r4gyg=; b=f9cN/NLBwHEgk2R6DyFnqncqmieT19VshiHaYKyqUziEB6qB3AsPuBdnR5fm0pWKx2 ZjIp1h9x9bXMMz8CNudhBINnIhUOcwu+Po2avomDkFdI9VwmHr8Ul1uotr49Uz96Ka2u 0sOo47y4no5FGAcNPwjk/VwCmWvUuvSo8wAfOTH+voP86lbbEoh8RUuGdxxVHph2Zj9J yhNnw+5ZlSjFCIeYEVmSqEVZvfCspIwnxAB8/d4E74fw2tzwhqvVajKo8cRXnHyVBjR5 yCXACqbHVYUHPgKDECKorEkGV1BeP11wJ4Ti1b9zFmk9s5GIbBUCxXH2FuI8F3+3Z4GP epdQ== s44mr7700154eev.138.1370551066555; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 13:37:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.152.135 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 13:37:46 -0700 (PDT) References: <1370532223.74484.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <51B0D455.50302@justbrits.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 16:37:46 -0400 From: Trevor Jessie To: Just Brits Shop Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to subscribe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Try this page: http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 2:26 PM, " Just Brits " Shop wrote: > << On 6/6/2013 10:23 AM, Jay wrote: > >> Is there an alternative method to subscribe? >> >> > > Boys, boys, boys ........ ! ! Wait 'til MJB sees some of the WRONG > posts - LOL ! ! > > "majordomo" has NOT been around for a number of years ! ! ! > > Use THIS ! ! ! > XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX**XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX > spridgets-request@autox.net > > NO: "Subject:" > > Body: subscribe > > > To get OUT is the reversal of above - LOL > > Just un-subscribe > > Me > > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/trevor.**jessie@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 15:44:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 694E74039F for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 15:44:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy7-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.55.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D1C1440382 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 15:42:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 32413 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jun 2013 21:37:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy7.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Jun 2013 21:37:39 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=+TZ0uXLKG4bm/kAjBLRu4JD0Vpa5IEmQfj672nRU2jw=; b=TOzbHO44JoEy4IM5sLQmHl5hnZrvUBJT0tx6+1sZ8FuLK/GDTVgfL1Qm3Xrrxjv0+eMt19tP6odRQv8eaJ45iyguZyH4d2ZhzEj54LNt41txQDBjLFo4dyo3VTP/CJIo; Received: from [24.15.13.164] (port=37332 helo=[192.168.0.106]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UkhsI-00088f-Rs for spridgets@autox.team.net; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 15:37:38 -0600 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 16:37:43 -0500 From: "\" Just Brits \" Shop" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <1370532223.74484.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <51B0D455.50302@justbrits.com> {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with sales@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to subscribe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net << On 6/6/2013 3:37 PM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > Try this page:http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo >> NOT necessary, Trev . Jay DID it WRONG ! ! ! ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 15:47:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955284038C for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 15:47:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy13-pub.unifiedlayer.com (oproxy13-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.16.30]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4138840382 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 15:47:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 29339 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jun 2013 21:42:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy13.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 6 Jun 2013 21:42:25 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=kgDvtLbr+RZw4AOBbUrvF/Kn1urPFBtRZZI+Wjln3Fk=; b=DHtPFx/Bel1GYoJZA0VVSNVJYHULBkd1H2ntuRsFiOAxwDGlbYESZ6h9C58CWoV7RoSCUGRtRFKuxBI9DzVAiAS/ZGXZoq779np/2xnVnJEzQD9Bx5AWa8f0fi1Qpyz4; Received: from [24.15.13.164] (port=37343 helo=[192.168.0.106]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Ukhwv-0001by-7j for spridgets@autox.team.net; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 15:42:25 -0600 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 16:42:29 -0500 From: "\" Just Brits \" Shop" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <1370532223.74484.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <51B0D455.50302@justbrits.com> <1370550616.26546.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with sales@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to subscribe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I retract what I just said, Trev. Sorry, Jay ! Jay, you didn't even reach @autox.net ! One of the "relays" bounced you. Why>> Don't know. Try, try, try again ! ! LOL Seriously, I did THREE (3) 'tests' with diff addys --- ALL worked ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 15:59:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058AE403F1 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 15:59:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy12-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy12-pub.bluehost.com [50.87.16.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 20E0D40382 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 15:56:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 7381 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jun 2013 21:51:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy12.bluehost.com with SMTP; 6 Jun 2013 21:51:52 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=gSoTJ33pPDNVC/M5Gxdy6RYRiOm6/+ZJ4orwQBBhnd8=; b=Z3OqOrHpJgN8kXwh1vLy9UtXXnjEieFjh6AXPkxGq6TDZWs4Yg6HAUgb6ZcKamXV0wGB5UOYIiSh7Xc7HZ25v/jQfwQsPXT6AgnItSsRMjWcFM00bIo8+1oKgmMN6oPD; Received: from [24.15.13.164] (port=37409 helo=[192.168.0.106]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uki63-0004Wa-Qk for spridgets@autox.team.net; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 15:51:51 -0600 Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 16:51:56 -0500 From: "\" Just Brits \" Shop" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <1370532223.74484.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <51B0D455.50302@justbrits.com> {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with sales@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to subscribe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net << On 6/6/2013 3:37 PM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > Try this page: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo >> NOT it either, Trev. For Subs/un-subs, that is ! ! ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 18:25:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6997403F6 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 18:25:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f178.google.com (mail-ea0-f178.google.com [209.85.215.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C975C403A8 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 18:24:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f178.google.com with SMTP id l15so988833eak.37 for ; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 17:20:08 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=bPc84EgtM4rBbHKPO6/P48fNeY5Zj8H584CWuH20xCE=; b=CfnPfafqbN3S2LR6vIxE8vK2nHFtJF+pA0yFGfUjD0pkwdMwvR9I7R9SyWpOa/hCtm e8iyzgbw7xB4WdHuVk2EGb7Ct6xZz0Fd5FUd9hGMVTvGsm7QdS2iSQTCfdMnOJGO3WHU sdEqG/RtSkN+yXkgP+BnYAtEHawU9BjwevYFufXbn+zoVR1ACs7pQ15qO435VTIT4vvM UW698VgrMg4i5VMXcqzNXAzm0nfBLLK2vTITFJ8wlkvEIgi5Mor6aw8D2r0FJTGRSKvF dN7gUo7vTe8AqK7A3IvIAmV5lqwPlWgOAe7S7zDgmPJa/ooK5vngeLK/+/lOTWMO6ddu DyMg== r43mr18142005eep.70.1370564408703; Thu, 06 Jun 2013 17:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.152.135 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 17:20:08 -0700 (PDT) References: <1370532223.74484.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <51B0D455.50302@justbrits.com> <51B1047C.5010902@justbrits.com> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 20:20:08 -0400 From: Trevor Jessie To: Just Brits Shop , Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to subscribe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Ed, I just tried that link ( http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo ). It gave me a list of "lists". I clicked on one, put in my email address and it subscribed me (after a verification email). -T On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 5:51 PM, " Just Brits " Shop wrote: > << On 6/6/2013 3:37 PM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > >> Try this page: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/**listinfo >> > >> > > NOT it either, Trev. For Subs/un-subs, that is ! ! > > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/spridgets/trevor.**jessie@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 6 21:05:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43210403E0 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 21:05:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7268403D0 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 20:41:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B26CA1916 for ; Thu, 6 Jun 2013 20:39:19 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2013 20:39:19 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <1370532223.74484.YahooMailRC@web181302.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <51B0D455.50302@justbrits.com> <1370550616.26546.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] How to subscribe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Why is it that no one pays ANY attention to the monthly reminder that goes out, and has been going out for the years and years and years since Team.Net lists moved from majordomo to mailman? mjb. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 7 10:14:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A0D342948 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 10:14:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com (mail-we0-f169.google.com [74.125.82.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7AF240691 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 09:20:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f169.google.com with SMTP id n57so3234312wev.0 for ; Fri, 07 Jun 2013 08:15:23 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Z4YZHEndpxm7dSbsJRPmJabm6Es/lBZh8KolqHuV2Ck=; b=TaZjMU6ZIDxOiTQsNSagIC/+8DikLsO+SwjqXf2sryFrGOLoBPacI6wAS4DzFWGx8M FcZF44L2SMt/8XLgX7yhwWxiPrZovncJrMeEi9ouvPhLbt9j7PbkpU0rh0JinCaEr/aJ t5GoxwwLXL2Bq0WRG3WrodoOkSXRr5gsmXot9LGU1v/8Uj+Zc4EiiBWa2CpjQQyma6Sr m8Mr1HDgA/lJS26bNUROwgFK7jbWEOETAvIGZ7vIR/AzmKfQg8gM5gx5QvBXpiED+we4 hdtPVqghy4Qtjfo0C6LxegEL12CQXvOIT/5fV84OhPCVCzIeIAIWUEX/IRhXzpPWvvd+ 5q0A== pn2mr4653100wjc.74.1370618122929; Fri, 07 Jun 2013 08:15:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.85.13 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 08:15:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 11:15:22 -0400 From: Linda Grunthaner To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Article on engine removal from under the Austin Mini? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net List, I was looking at the Glenn's Austin Healey Chilton book below on an ebay auction and noticed the image where they are removing a engine from what appears to be a Mini from under the car. I know the frame gets in the way to do the same for our Sprites but I'm curious as to this being the prefered method for the early Austin Mini's. *Glenn's Austin Healey Chilton Repair Tune Up Guide Sprite 1967 MK Book No 1432* *Ebay link* *http://tinyurl.com/k43nxug* *Spritely Motoring Gang,* *Lin* ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 7 12:38:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C581642751 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 12:38:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (omr-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C63F40431 for ; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 11:28:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.4]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D3916700512DF; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 13:23:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.225.127.132] (163.sub-174-236-197.myvzw.com [174.236.197.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id B9CF8E001EFB; Fri, 7 Jun 2013 13:23:35 -0400 (EDT) References: From: Howie Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 13:23:32 -0400 To: Linda Grunthaner x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1370625816; bh=ZnBxov3fEu2RksBjaSwG7hBj4pnmzGxze4mIpvwS1gU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=weRhLEGJyTAWvUIXce3SCUPjFnXJW3KwU1TcfN7iVhCx2rZOLk/VAX3Pxvdl0i1vq NdjT/NyVtiR8ydLiP//ffmV7n080Nbw9NJzkSXo1U6jwNG9Qr2HGrLiaBOmRbAmpC6 pUJy2pWsWV4APfr9Yka4eMtKu3kXZ+ABC5A4n6AU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290451b217170f2f Cc: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Article on engine removal from under the Austin Mini? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net The entire front subframe complete with power unit (engine and tranny) drops out of the bottom of a Mini. Everyone has their own preferences, but this is usually the preferred method for most Mini owners or mechanics. Howard Collins '60 AH Bugeye Sprite '68 Austin Mini Sent from my iPhone On Jun 7, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Linda Grunthaner wrote: > List, > I was looking at the Glenn's Austin Healey Chilton book below on an ebay > auction and noticed the image where they are removing a engine from what > appears to be a Mini from under the car. I know the frame gets in the way > to do the same for our Sprites but I'm curious as to this being the > prefered method for the early Austin Mini's. > > *Glenn's Austin Healey Chilton Repair Tune Up Guide Sprite 1967 MK Book No > 1432* > > *Ebay link* > > *http://tinyurl.com/k43nxug* > > *Spritely Motoring Gang,* > > *Lin* > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/miniac7@aol.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 8 12:41:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E1340523 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 12:41:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f48.google.com (mail-la0-f48.google.com [209.85.215.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9954040C for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 12:39:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f48.google.com with SMTP id lx15so3571874lab.21 for ; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 11:34:22 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dTE5yQDQjlHFxAwh7McBgOsLi9HVVK+ek4OvFqs3+mc=; b=zDllRlOvx/ZrnUfw53lsm+sxZVgqXGDkze0DpYOBMg109NX2WZyzlgZDo0q8hlsjJ4 wfFM1PJ5SJMF5dQKhewyBZlq71uGPqadhusHJpq41dTjEqGHvubAHAX8DyUctt8kpO31 kbhwxL57QHW32iHT47RVJXaitLn0n/YM6GSj2ibpoSGjp7i0rGxRsRO/F+akc2QCwTxX klb9gXaFy8nCMiHcjggLiGNe9uGsdSFbNMmYXLIxj8kIOEr4jQkCOJjkBkL0ynmHEfPN VK188DyltuLcWxLv14d9QiI9QUneolCWUXJE8QNby3i//sLrsVIzMBeKhMPo1/Fa30eH mVPw== zk2mr3547895lbb.2.1370716461975; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 11:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.16.103 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 11:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 11:34:21 -0700 From: Rick Bastedo To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] New Grandson Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net My new grandson was born yesterday morning at 6:20am. Name: Remington (Remi for short) Curb Weight: 9lb 5oz Bumper to bumper: 21 inches HP: ATM about 1/64th but there are upgrades available He's adorable (of course I think so). His little brother likes him so that's a good part of the battle won already. Here is my Picasa web album from yesterday, enjoy. https://picasaweb.google.com/106121126121790278619/Remi?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCKCTsY-okYnwtwE&feat=directlink or *http://tinyurl.com/mzdmalm * I'm sure many on this list are grandparents, this is our second grand child and so far I like it a lot better than just about anything*! * Rick (Gramps) Bastedo* * ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 8 13:42:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF19D40414 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 13:42:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy13-pub.unifiedlayer.com (oproxy13-pub.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.16.30]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D8CC6403EF for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 13:36:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 19413 invoked by uid 0); 8 Jun 2013 19:31:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy13.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 8 Jun 2013 19:31:17 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=UuT6SYNVZKqoL3FBo2Kwyfpw25BLTXmBDIo31qw2NR0=; b=nnXPk7wfIzmW3j09SrSKB4zGTK0Oe4Ll8+pRYB6i8rnVn8Jo3QJInnJMmBugAC6+GG8Ahmz7QZlZfSDYQfuP5qG7Jbcn7o2vNxZrLEMzzehGrWIoacyYjIMjWKjYnlSM; Received: from [24.15.13.164] (port=38237 helo=[192.168.0.106]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UlOr7-0001ck-FU for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 13:31:17 -0600 Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2013 14:31:13 -0500 From: "\" Just Brits \" Shop" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with sales@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Grandson Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net CONGRATS, GrandPa ! ! ! ! Out a 'spanner' in his hand yet, Rick ? ? ? LOL Ed ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 8 18:03:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DA24055F for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 18:03:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [64.8.71.112]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5D240543 for ; Sat, 8 Jun 2013 17:59:49 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=0sCcJJfCGNM8vwGFjuBQtw==:117 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=_rQbkI6Wp0IA:10 a=FKkrIqjQGGEA:10 a=NM-2Wi9R0k4A:10 a=DA-v0VzzAAAA:8 a=qMtpcES66IMA:10 a=sNV6XAjiPpeI-vk8_8wA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=l_aJZ_Ni9k-y3BBQY9MA:9 a=sHW8OiIb4V1Pq2Wc:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp01.knology.synacor.com header.from=cmlove@knology.net; sender-id=fail Authentication-Results: smtp01.knology.synacor.com smtp.mail=cmlove@knology.net; spf=fail; sender-id=fail Received-SPF: fail (smtp01.knology.synacor.com: domain knology.net does not designate 10.120.0.110 as permitted sender) Received: from [10.120.0.110] ([10.120.0.110:48205] helo=md02.knology.synacor.com) by smtp.knology.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.47 r(39787)) with ESMTP id 36/CB-02770-E44C3B15; Sat, 08 Jun 2013 19:54:54 -0400 Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2013 19:54:53 -0400 (EDT) From: cmlove@knology.net To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Which water pump pulley? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Hello All; My son bought me an electric fan for father's day (Early), but it doesn't fit. He bought it from Vic Brit and it's supposed to fit. We have the fan pulley with two grooves for fan belts. I know there is a pulley that only has one fan belt groove. My question is, would it be shorter and allow the fan to fit? The current fit is only off by a about a quarter inch. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Monty Love Huntsville, Alabama 1972 Midget with 1275 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 9 20:17:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86234054C for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2013 20:17:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f46.google.com (mail-wg0-f46.google.com [74.125.82.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F0A40382 for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2013 20:17:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id c11so976819wgh.13 for ; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 19:12:45 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=X2D1Tn5jDnSNrINv+uUqfZnSrlcAnnDlzyfHK/F/Tuo=; b=XrACXLSFOpqa9o80FpuOPXvlDqUxPx2JL1ChX8Ij87EWZ7HATU8BouEEcl8znFvwyT Vydycx/O/tnfG1mrfSibyszFsFzy6P4tz+ql8yoVPhuu2eOxnfdME8qcVt39nfUF0kuX XW/gGVhXLyEpR3W+h5ORJ60AN53Remed+HDwzRXZ9c4TB0R8Y061Pg6TPGLp9GDiOGXV ntwqlppldcE4mssOjBoP/tlHXsKl+jUXe74VTrfYNqRRMAOdRaNU+VkjeN9BGGCh7Sdy clEa5DdEmrkYm0fM22QqW85sRzGW+4GxHiV7yYItE0tH+0Q0W3ymXv5lXnZyXRgnlgRD eFrw== w6mr3245393wjx.91.1370830365665; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 19:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.93.193 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jun 2013 19:12:45 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 22:12:45 -0400 From: JohnD To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Blackhawk Sprite Midget Challenge #2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Blackhawk Farms, next weekend, #2 of the 2013 Sprite-Midget Challenge Series. Rick Fisk and I will be there with the tribute "Works" Midget, #49. If you are within driving distance of the Cheese Curtain (between Illinois and Wisconsin) and have an interest in crewing, I have one extra crew pass available. Email me off list (johnsfollyATgmailDOTcom). I am partial to attractive tatooed women, but will comply with all equal opportunity requirements. Cheers! JohnD -- *Driving in the past lane!* JohnsfollyVintageRacing ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 9 21:45:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE7D842718 for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2013 21:45:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f177.google.com (mail-vc0-f177.google.com [209.85.220.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46EE140E1A for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2013 21:45:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id hv10so4100303vcb.36 for ; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 20:40:29 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=+LiFIRhGw3ez5+Gvqtq7lq+iQFt1ca6VRyFXl8bELa4=; b=k6U5WJ5gAcsDoWKC0iH7gIq75MYynuhMaip3HJSCkFe1yqFRmlHt+cPCG9HURbBq9X 7M9aUldh+uxuslc2yQIA5kcfjme+KVi6bFdSjbX0uSJTtYYE5KznegJhOHcjHiJ83kPk XtckzdpC0xMDoLcSxuJFhvKU0jKPn2jwhTE/MzcdrIEDK5KWuezYQKfiyz99YII8Ihba azsOxGgZh+1tCY66YDDS047NbKWpIdLjcCRSgR4DDQOjTq99Y2SCJIGxkD+Wx8qBRYmN EVWSK4M50Z47JmYGQ7aMJ7dePZp+MIPWv48mpfyHg0jxrEihBvuSI7S4UxblF01DeyJA sVnQ== p3mr1437202vcr.69.1370835629000; Sun, 09 Jun 2013 20:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.96.73 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Jun 2013 20:40:28 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 22:40:28 -0500 From: Joe Migujka To: JohnD Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Blackhawk Sprite Midget Challenge #2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Truedat On Sunday, June 9, 2013, JohnD wrote: > Blackhawk Farms, next weekend, #2 of the 2013 Sprite-Midget Challenge > Series. > Rick Fisk and I will be there with the tribute "Works" Midget, #49. If you > are within driving distance of the Cheese Curtain (between Illinois and > Wisconsin) and have an interest in crewing, I have one extra crew pass > available. > Email me off list > (johnsfollyATgmailDOTcom). > > I am partial to attractive tatooed women, but will comply with all equal > opportunity requirements. > Cheers! > JohnD > -- > *Driving in the past lane!* > JohnsfollyVintageRacing > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/joe.migujka@gmail.com > -- J, Migujka Reston, VA AH Sprite x 8 Datsun 240Z Jaguar E-Type in 35 boxes ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 9 21:58:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FB24272F for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2013 21:58:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4026042717 for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2013 21:58:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mTmo1l0070Fqzac5ETtLQu; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 03:53:20 +0000 Received: from blackbox2 ([69.253.143.59]) by omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mTtL1l00E1H6MAV3UTtLKZ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 03:53:20 +0000 From: "Dean Hedin" To: , References: <2056062531.39177524.1370735449704.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> <1217928356.39178005.1370735693989.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2013 23:53:17 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5kpCUWERucPTFdTPyK0f3r3p3JgQA5ID5w s=q20121106; t=1370836400; bh=IPO7LEKtghFetRzUvAJr21kMh8UYKqhbobimnfZxUxk=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=pzqGIqHcrxBBzANmOraJzUXJpNItF3dj1/biw1AT/R8psXLK0ScaTmAXZOolieI51 Jz/+hipZ8/pUR3bY/+gsT2UkYZ6uKxaAmZJSfI2V6YXJ+DyTJ9w4iMYzp8iN/Mcdq/ jbQ1fEaLWKQoyHNYOeuYH/P4zvrwfaIXwubMCMbpcyE8qvSPXILyoLdy2YfysecQh7 2n9sfiV2m4Kh+Pb8qMPdAML3kiIM2Nbh0ArEL8kWRzTIgCuK1XUul/+imB2DmN8Sh5 WHBXuUATqzBDKhVZkGmcZngHwotrfXDIWwwCadxV+Yyzna06+fVwDRjAyH1+9F455b fYH4i0YPdr0qg== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Which water pump pulley? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I'm not sure the pulley diference is the issue. Either pulley's front face mounts to the flange of the water pump. I don't think how many groves the pulley has changes anything. So we have to wonder..Victoria says it should fit but in your case it does not. Are you running the stock radiator? Is it possible that somewhere in the past it has been re-cored and is now thicker? Is the radiator mounted correctly? Do some water pumps front flanges extend further forward then others? Call Victoria and tell them your problem. Maybe they can tell you something you didn't know. In any case, if you tell them it does not fit then I'm sure they will take it back. Now I have to ask... I'm sure all the best intentions, but why does your son think you need an electric cooling fan? Is there an overheating issue here that we need to talk about first (before we go and slap on an electric fan bandaid)? I cannot re-itterate enough, about how improved my cooling system became when I took my radiator to a specialist and he cleaned it out. Also, before attempting this electric fan, did you have the 6 bladed yellow polymer fan? -----Original Message----- Subject: [Spridgets] Which water pump pulley? Hello All; My son bought me an electric fan for father's day (Early), but it doesn't fit. He bought it from Vic Brit and it's supposed to fit. We have the fan pulley with two grooves for fan belts. I know there is a pulley that only has one fan belt groove. My question is, would it be shorter and allow the fan to fit? The current fit is only off by a about a quarter inch. Any help would be appreciated. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 9 22:19:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04D04271F for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2013 22:19:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56DD3403F2 for ; Sun, 9 Jun 2013 22:19:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.90]) by qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mTy51l0021wpRvQ59UEafv; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 04:14:34 +0000 Received: from blackbox2 ([69.253.143.59]) by omta18.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mUEa1l0011H6MAV3eUEaVP; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 04:14:34 +0000 From: "Dean Hedin" To: "'JohnD'" , "'Spridgets'" References: Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 00:14:31 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5lgAhPslDJzAokQAquc6KQ4IdNdwADnwfg s=q20121106; t=1370837674; bh=d8ip9KP6Vd7YaGC/DSSZwpfqNOxmzPkH4VzlhXycnRQ=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=OuGaIx3+rQiufbmfkp2Uo7ijUYXnAgBMxPeTGceDaLtpY6WxDjtDIGQC23mRfhyYI vV8WIjuBpeJ1uJd8vHhwHvvt22UtCXtY1SQlBZNXLU1aZox8qfOTO3KKYDPsdMiezp q6VLt+8f3Ycyo+tYWJ4ORKkeJZw8csBGun6Bm5jB3S8IJxLaOUaxx7F/TiRy5DJ5/R /CHyRg5pi7iMwYnJ9bgheXbUrElFCNSn4WuQxMgibWL8/5Ujazs/C2rSD2DFcziZJj qOm6vUWAtaUMeGHGnBJOvFWKE4VihMyH3jhX6JrFgV4nggw+afuiWvuYahKOKQz+7P vkyIcnsf1yqqQ== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Blackhawk Sprite Midget Challenge #2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net >I am partial to attractive tatooed women, but will comply with all equal opportunity requirements. >Cheers! >JohnD I onced worked with this woman who was a native Hawaian. She had her family's tribal tatoo around her neck. She said it was done the old fashion way, like the way Mel Gibson was tattooed in "The Bounty" (if you ever seen that movie). She said it was very painful, sort of a "right of passage". Anyhow, that's the only tatoo I ever thought was attractive. It was elegant, like a pearl necklace. But this full body technicolor stuff today...I don't know...to over the top for me. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 05:27:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E304042724 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 05:27:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8252E40443 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 05:27:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta003.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r5ABIuah020970; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 04:22:04 -0700 Received: by dm0202.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d0476621) id dm0202.51aff486.73fb9b; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 04:21:56 -0700 From: "Bud Osbourne" To: "'Dean Hedin'" , , References: <2056062531.39177524.1370735449704.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> <1217928356.39178005.1370735693989.JavaMail.root@md02.knology.synacor.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 07:21:59 -0400 Thread-Index: AQMVh5kcuxuLNgyL7v4MnR31T2RQdgHAhL24ATovbfWWiLLpUA== Content-Language: en-us engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-06-10_02:2013-06-10,2013-06-10,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1211240000 definitions=main-1306100063 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Which water pump pulley? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Dean is right in asking you: "why does your son think you need an electric cooling fan?" Assuming your car is running an A series engine, the cooling systems (particularly the one used for later 1275s) were pretty darn good. An electric cooling fan, on a Spridget, sounds like taking the long way around and still not addressing the root problem. Bud Osbourne -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Hedin Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2013 11:53 PM To: cmlove@knology.net; spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Which water pump pulley? Are you running the stock radiator? Is it possible that somewhere in the past it has been re-cored and is now thicker? Is the radiator mounted correctly? Now I have to ask... I'm sure all the best intentions, but why does your son think you need an electric cooling fan? Is there an overheating issue here that we need to talk about first (before we go and slap on an electric fan bandaid)? I cannot re-itterate enough, about how improved my cooling system became when I took my radiator to a specialist and he cleaned it out. Also, before attempting this electric fan, did you have the 6 bladed yellow polymer fan? -----Original Message----- Subject: [Spridgets] Which water pump pulley? Hello All; My son bought me an electric fan for father's day (Early), but it doesn't fit. He bought it from Vic Brit and it's supposed to fit. We have the fan pulley with two grooves for fan belts. I know there is a pulley that only has one fan belt groove. My question is, would it be shorter and allow the fan to fit? The current fit is only off by a about a quarter inch. Any help would be appreciated. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 05:57:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCD04277F for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 05:57:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f171.google.com (mail-ea0-f171.google.com [209.85.215.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA4042764 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 05:57:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f171.google.com with SMTP id m14so5438932eaj.30 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 04:52:21 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=4pPS0UMgNhX+cucO1fhGvIBEWIrzcHU7Mi3ajVt+XDE=; b=DvIhCYOUpEv6f8cKOH8sjjGa4JztSOOsq3iomzRCABvy6IVBECRJo9FgV4PtbU4jmR P7O+/rE8tKq0k+e3VdeGpJUwO0Ggm0f2SXavmY9cyVoMS/p+PSi0z4zlYua2UDmWrhp1 Dpz26j+xoBkRIi45d9bKXc67cCSLXo23midlUimIzLzrgvZLxluhs/0SWHdlZT+J7PXx P8m6CEAh1C8CGsc8pnSMOnwlxLYE38B7wZ3J+OJrwXzH92WRQzElHUMVGXDz0AghqVfZ EsRjkO2aGbAiLJQ47DLjroxOjSekw73P7knwU7ao+xmtgDPZLcrJY0aRkalaXISRuSb7 /20g== r45mr6394690eez.79.1370865141439; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 04:52:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.152.135 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 04:52:21 -0700 (PDT) References: <1037473DAB1B46BEB0346F808032429C@blackbox2> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 07:52:21 -0400 From: Trevor Jessie To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Blackhawk Sprite Midget Challenge #2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net "But this full body technicolor stuff today...I don't know...to over the top for me" ...not my cup of tea either. However, if a women has tats then it is an excuse to stare at her body, as in "No dear, I was just looking at her tattoos". ;) -Trevor On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Dean Hedin wrote: > >I am partial to attractive tatooed women, but will comply with all equal > opportunity requirements. > >Cheers! > >JohnD > > I onced worked with this woman who was a native Hawaian. She had her > family's tribal tatoo around her neck. > She said it was done the old fashion way, like the way Mel Gibson was > tattooed in "The Bounty" (if you ever seen that movie). > She said it was very painful, sort of a "right of passage". > > Anyhow, that's the only tatoo I ever thought was attractive. It was > elegant, like a pearl necklace. > > But this full body technicolor stuff today...I don't know...to over the top > for me. > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 08:18:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6601E4054E for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:18:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3794042A for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:18:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id meAu1l0040cQ2SLA3eDY0k; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:13:32 +0000 Received: from [10.1.10.187] ([75.151.210.78]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id meDX1l00L1i2L2K8WeDXUK; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:13:32 +0000 From: Lester Ewing Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:13:31 -0500 To: bugeye@yahoogroups.com, Spridgets Spridgets s=q20121106; t=1370873612; bh=L6dtETAzQ3krwLFwCh922a7ThLsRmd6cVhvEP8Y+ay8=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Subject:Date:Message-Id:To: Mime-Version; b=QveAK0dSvkh/H2NifHUYjlRZNe+nvMrIYTWyUXydAIjbk66qgvevK/THIQdZ4Kneb dUGlPdYX9MafYVfRxOyM7//H90MbaIXPGqaJ8sF2MQB+a6wKMraoh+00dVXt9ZL2Nl 2E+Z1XZ/dXbd+nl20t5ezznPDaI9KRFB81NpY5qUiiiHotUhS3ctq0I5E+MI1vxsmh Hq8Eq1qK7x1ZrrO2ZL8oDehdSxnv0wlnjCT+CeU3KsBr25+itDEt5IAdE/bYaH8r3L G5eRJpcWUeboiRD1ZkAQf7QdTa4K6Cn/PRWzWRyNj8/V+KX0jYKfY1zu+E+bLxwiNO oz1t5iTACaq9Q== Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets list concern Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Am I correct in remembering that you can not include pictures with your posts on the Spridgets list and that was one of the reasons that we have the Bugeye list here on Yahoo? Lester ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 08:32:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F36C940078 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:32:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm3.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm3.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.130]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9983C4042A for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:32:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.105] by nm3.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2013 14:27:29 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.92] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2013 14:27:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1029.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jun 2013 14:27:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 19208 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jun 2013 14:27:29 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370874449; bh=w4nlqIDfbcb8TTBHbqE68Ib7dsbpZu9n619vap+pFIg=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Wbyu0Xa7ID91kbAYdWSxIk/EPo7QQqosISTgsHKWwfOesfW4g+XU6Ab8CyC/vj/9M1Jlj9D9ehIuVT72lJN0T0/f2PM8gyXlT6JzsL/5y0DKNh7oVjYAyL6sZG3LOsYfAUbpXck+mOcvSnZEr1t7T1zBtrEemkTt2xDQWbWoYUA= s=s1024; d=snet.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6gICljsxLLXzqFnYkaI6Eg9LRphqz8H0TTtBFXravHcowvPMF2BvABBdqOQjsNuUJCv2ZqNypFwWkkk3KO5DO6c/lfyuTXBGgyk6aPkOZDbL3z2DwC3m0FlIb1XtJWt/ViK7lIPSzVq36XNdtAuBCTYU22ZCwyF1fSrywR8mY/Q=; tfhywIF9amAlV5sSX5WyLA6E6U.fAnQVxIIaziNoJaAKCzVWeahiJaDU3_dp mVzPjc.7nzIsweAbw945N_L_PhWMuHcDAI.Dw0NoSMuTvGs7K8FnlOrZjsWM ngnD8.4FVLRp1d0qdUJ54X0BDaq11nkFxWQfxUGVFa8I2K_nS_aIsWFA.DBl BS_y.Gj5SvVND4DucrJTlfvENU.CQDjrOmjXziETKFlKPyTa2uiCllRDCf1u BF1bnNrDOLBIRvWfy80orb8v3.97Dd.0d26WgYaUH0HMbAq1UNOhSeLDTBL_ xqIaMh.wT_DI080NROKSAJFmPuWdmAqs4UeCSiqaksaa2KT4DI8G0VqU.wxD r.FouRkyyG7aPOMd9FK1mH4cd9m.2NgK4HmFery541H9tmJY2dFnGq96nVh3 4YNtDZa6btOpdLlimklrgtyCgvaIwe3LGDWdbkokHVxv04L0YGb1r25G6TQt RYmUAiZWqFowJW60lo2El Received: from [69.0.36.132] by web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 07:27:29 PDT WWVzLCB0aGF0J3MgY29ycmVjdC4gCgpUaGUgYnVnZXllIGxpc3QgZ2l2ZXMgc3Vic2NyaWJlcnMgdGhlIGFiaWxpdHkgdG8gcmVjZWl2ZSBwaG90b3MgYXMgd2VsbCBhcyBzcGFtLgoKIGpheSBmaXNoYmVpbgp3YWxsaW5nZm9yZCwgY3QKCgoKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwpGcm9tOiBMZXN0ZXIgRXdpbmcgPG9sZHNhYWJndXlAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ.ClRvOiBidWdleWVAeWFob29ncm91cHMuY29tOyBTcHJpZGdldHMgU3ByaWRnZXRzIDxzcHJpZGdldHNAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 07:27:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets list concern Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, that's correct. The bugeye list gives subscribers the ability to receive photos as well as spam. jay fishbein wallingford, ct To: bugeye@yahoogroups.com; Spridgets Spridgets Sent: Mon, June 10, 2013 10:14:14 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets list concern Am I correct in remembering that you can not include pictures with your posts on the Spridgets list and that was one of the reasons that we have the Bugeye list here on Yahoo? Lester ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 08:48:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99EA40414 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:48:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50D84040C for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:48:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id meQe1l0031ZMdJ4A5ejaFZ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:43:34 +0000 Received: from [10.1.10.187] ([75.151.210.78]) by omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mejY1l00o1i2L2K8cejZ61; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:43:33 +0000 From: Lester Ewing Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:43:32 -0500 References: <1370874449.13386.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: bugeye@yahoogroups.com, Spridgets Spridgets s=q20121106; t=1370875414; bh=kHMJLpjVy9C/xIAYds2xVftqE/BU0X3/COTrf+VBNf0=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=ssXaQX4gT37UzQ3QBOwUUXoGnCCMzXkgLG3iYE9ScCGu/oV+xlNRp3T6f7IKuGchN HUyvuMdh8pEoi1iWjawZ2GrTSrPV0Bbw8gchFnQ0XIPIMLlLA9+J3+idMBCWn20aGk Wt6/cBJUByD/UOVqniHBJY0rEbj8VEErSdDvu8Teme7BbxF3E/QYHTEdM2VUC4emVO mVCr8QIuNM0tYXPVjs6pjRpxOJb6wxDT2AqSXwaSZV0R7JUc1a1+v0HLtoKSnM4hZg BxrEKq34IhikSg6YdBzZhT29UNM29lEfYNfD1K01b63XDTGWbRGVN9OhGX3q02pRPl oaEbSKInsh42w== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye list easy fix was Spridgets list concern Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Why not just tart a "New Bugeye" list on Yahoo and abandon this one? Lester On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:27 29AM, Jay wrote: > Yes, that's correct. > > The bugeye list gives subscribers the ability to receive photos as well as spam. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > To: bugeye@yahoogroups.com; Spridgets Spridgets > Sent: Mon, June 10, 2013 10:14:14 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets list concern > > Am I correct in remembering that you can not include pictures with your posts > on the Spridgets list and that was one of the reasons that we have the Bugeye > list here on Yahoo? > > Lester > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy@comcast.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 09:09:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415D240416 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:09:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f176.google.com (mail-ie0-f176.google.com [209.85.223.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87945403F2 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 09:09:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f176.google.com with SMTP id ar20so14119209iec.35 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:04:11 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=NPKqith0COh99l7CtEhH19S22gWbEUSudnnYXJbWUhA=; b=D1xUxDsJcFsLVsYL6D29nYRBSTubzf9zwVNSEeatElm4eSDkXhGQS9Co04yC0B0XFy sNEUrB34DQ524POKAtwU8cpK06eBx4qqDsU4VldHxo8WaB30bek/S+2Ij+hzSBaDit2I Nxh4fPmEg4mmoiszT3G5ZgPXAdkHCnc7eVQ7BHDNOecOvoeKHgmbI7vNlMRLYkmea2/L Avny/rArPeuqYs6sZ5D3ORB++uXFW6nlobUIXUtc0QIMqrWj3kDU3HPmupD1miZR3T7A 2Q3qzjh+Qf2zkq83NskQ0lle+e5OdBp+4jJ3VxEwl97a9L3zhYJ7Bf57+mkU2G9YnZ06 2YkQ== Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:04:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.6.106 with HTTP; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 08:04:01 -0700 (PDT) References: <1370874449.13386.YahooMailRC@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 10:04:01 -0500 From: Jim Johnson To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets list concern Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Oooo! And like all lists that allow pictures the ability to receive embedded viruses within the pictures!! Joy! Cheers!! Jim > > > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Jay wrote: > >> Yes, that's correct. >> >> The bugeye list gives subscribers the ability to receive photos as well >> as spam. >> >> jay fishbein >> wallingford, ct >> To: bugeye@yahoogroups.com; Spridgets Spridgets > > >> Sent: Mon, June 10, 2013 10:14:14 AM >> Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets list concern >> >> Am I correct in remembering that you can not include pictures with your >> posts >> on the Spridgets list and that was one of the reasons that we have the >> Bugeye >> list here on Yahoo? >> >> Lester >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage : >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman@gmail.com >> > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Sprite-Midget Club USA > High Plains Youth Hockey > Dodge City Trail of Fame > Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology > Dodge City 300 > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Dodge City 300 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 11:50:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E68EB40444 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:50:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B029D40410 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:48:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE72DA1915 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:45:41 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 11:45:41 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: Spridgets Spridgets References: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets list concern Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Lester Ewing wrote: > Am I correct in remembering that you can not include pictures with your posts > on the Spridgets list and that was one of the reasons that we have the Bugeye > list here on Yahoo? > > Yes, no pictures in email, but you can use the Spridget forum ( link below ) for that. mjb. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 12:51:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 855AE4042D for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:51:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from st11p05mm-asmtp005.mac.com (st11p05mm-asmtp005.mac.com [17.172.108.250]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714B840382 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 12:46:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cajal.uphs.upenn.edu (node3.uphs.upenn.edu [165.123.243.167]) by st11p05mm-asmtp005.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MO600EK5X9M2HA0@st11p05mm-asmtp005.mac.com> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 18:41:47 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-06-10_05:2013-06-10,2013-06-10,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=1 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1306100178 From: Larry Macy Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 14:41:46 -0400 References: <51B610C5.5070903@bradakis.com> To: Mark J Bradakis Cc: Spridgets Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spridgets list concern Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net And that's the reason I am not on the Yahoo list. I prefer not to get pics from unknown email acquaintances Larry On Jun 10, 2013, at 13:45 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > Lester Ewing wrote: >> Am I correct in remembering that you can not include pictures with your posts >> on the Spridgets list and that was one of the reasons that we have the Bugeye >> list here on Yahoo? >> >> > Yes, no pictures in email, but you can use the Spridget forum ( link below ) > for that. > > mjb. > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy@mac.com -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy@upenn.edu Senior IT Program Director Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry Perelman School of Medicine University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 "Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart, Stay hungry. Stay foolish." Steve Jobs, 2005 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 15:28:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F177A4043F for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:28:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m04.mx.aol.com (omr-m04.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44105403CF for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:28:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.67]) by omr-m04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 36404700000A6; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:23:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [166.227.169.242]) by mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 2A2ECE0000E8; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:23:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 16:22:12 -0500 From: Tmheffron To: Trevor Jessie , Spridgets x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1370899405; bh=IoDvMT/AFvTfSbEnk+Bnw1ZqoQjUuqajHm4jBWlJoAo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zRGfG6X+z8Eq+lja/mFuHWkDO6/s2p94bfBsEB/SOX8cmiNixavrYG30TOwfbHNJQ G8sy4p0T6JYmwqhl+HF8KyWOyd/BlxMePPN0G3JMgWeyFQ7x4A/8R+mCfs0BA5RfDt MlA/6SWtf31rX5I/KMhDH5ww0b5uSS1kgDF6R5dU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294351b643cb6f76 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Blackhawk Sprite Midget Challenge #2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sent from my U.S. CellularB. Android-powered phone Trevor Jessie wrote: >"But this full body technicolor stuff today...I don't know...to over the >top for me" >...not my cup of tea either. However, if a women has tats then it is an >excuse to stare at her body, as in "No dear, I was just looking at her >tattoos". >;) > >-Trevor > > >On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:14 AM, Dean Hedin wrote: > >> >I am partial to attractive tatooed women, but will comply with all equal >> opportunity requirements. >> >Cheers! >> >JohnD >> >> I onced worked with this woman who was a native Hawaian. She had her >> family's tribal tatoo around her neck. >> She said it was done the old fashion way, like the way Mel Gibson was >> tattooed in "The Bounty" (if you ever seen that movie). >> She said it was very painful, sort of a "right of passage". >> >> Anyhow, that's the only tatoo I ever thought was attractive. It was >> elegant, like a pearl necklace. >> >> But this full body technicolor stuff today...I don't know...to over the top >> for me. >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie@gmail.com >------------------------ > >spridgets@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tmheffron@aol.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 10 19:35:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781F640559 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:35:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398E640535 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2013 19:35:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mp2H1l0060mv7h05CpWTf1; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 01:30:27 +0000 Received: from blackbox2 ([69.253.143.59]) by omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id mpWS1l00q1H6MAV3XpWSDE; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 01:30:27 +0000 From: "Dean Hedin" To: "'Trevor Jessie'" , "'Spridgets'" References: <1037473DAB1B46BEB0346F808032429C@blackbox2> Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 21:30:22 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5l0P87xBrV7aiQRg6SyYiMaJKz4gAcdT7Q s=q20121106; t=1370914227; bh=8Szx3fn8VRtsYJSwKY+dioYbKV8cNBy4LmdWjVf0gGE=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=JjuizF3V3ga1iC33oepGX++IKWPuRoMfVisZLPaUU5Pi+R58ox0wwYe6yOvZ2yLyK nu84pESzZYpWzSvFpNu6FQ6qOHrNaeLwGGY0UwqgpPsZayrKcWjPKCO9IPfjx4doYK 9S03ldBx3RGqf3lcoZtwGjqYyD0J8nFz931Bpy/eHteiOeg1mmdq3qNyGE2Q8iYPi+ qahTTyT4SS/Stb1y8hqf+EmfNKKLxLqDO7BKD+aP0mYDhoX+iay3U/cMCrbk0kuDwO /u3xq92Li1OzsH+FamcV+5FbOoavxNNDThjwabMyQKj0PMZCQvZTmssp9Qrh7bpSMC u45u8M0IMuDMg== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Blackhawk Sprite Midget Challenge #2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I guess for me it like cars, original equipment tattoos vs. hot rod, resto-mod tattoos. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Trevor Jessie Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 7:52 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Blackhawk Sprite Midget Challenge #2 "But this full body technicolor stuff today...I don't know...to over the top for me" ...not my cup of tea either. However, if a women has tats then it is an excuse to stare at her body, as in "No dear, I was just looking at her tattoos". ;) -Trevor ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 11 03:36:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA47A42737 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 03:36:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m08.mx.aol.com (omr-m08.mx.aol.com [64.12.222.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2469A40440 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 03:36:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.74]) by omr-m08.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1E6CA700000BE; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 05:31:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-doe005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-doe005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.163.81]) by mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id DFD8AE000082; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 05:30:59 -0400 (EDT) From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 05:30:59 -0400 (EDT) To: oldsaabguy@comcast.net, spridgets@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1370943060; bh=REX4h+q+uyy7LPBdoDBZSOIcU5gIcEAnhVe8gAQjv6A=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SZB785NKyKO+B6ZPgKkZxeQYhjx95SyKBFgyMUXkZt3hf8j5P3y7H2e0GPJtuaTpw HonLv2TK129eykNzC+xMV4jbVKp1v6mOqUwOC1TKBVtjTRaTAFx2/rtou8cPjdFdKT iUW6z0Y7PRQPxFFPQX9OqC5h1PWMalCp81oikvLA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a51b6ee532626 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye list easy fix was Spridgets list concern Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Not all listers have a Bugeye! Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 10/06/2013 15:43:40 GMT Daylight Time, oldsaabguy@comcast.net writes: Why not just tart a "New Bugeye" list on Yahoo and abandon this one? Lester On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:27 29AM, Jay wrote: > Yes, that's correct. > > The bugeye list gives subscribers the ability to receive photos as well as spam. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > To: bugeye@yahoogroups.com; Spridgets Spridgets > Sent: Mon, June 10, 2013 10:14:14 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets list concern > > Am I correct in remembering that you can not include pictures with your posts > on the Spridgets list and that was one of the reasons that we have the Bugeye > list here on Yahoo? > > Lester > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy@comcast.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/weslakemonza1330@aol.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 11 03:46:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76D2E42734 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 03:46:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25375403F8 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 03:45:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id DC6E770041629; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 05:39:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-doe005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-doe005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.163.81]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id AAB10E000083; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 05:39:47 -0400 (EDT) From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 05:39:47 -0400 (EDT) To: dlh2001@comcast.net, trevor.jessie@gmail.com, spridgets@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1370943587; bh=yPpH9Ewkv/HIUKSrRBnZLJXGrAT8NTekS1JBm3CuNqc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KdcbIffQARmpbcE83n+NCa83+2ppVKILjqsiWoSpSe+SipMCdrsT7gHrKxdXEHmvr uV/v3LBp0SHkAmABIz8BCfGwRN3d3VIadqF/tUSX7Wdxajk/V2RnYlCT7v0OCpDHvo T2i8XoSbpxlkwKSAkIIw4Pb307iOAL6KT1xSHk7U= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c51b6f0636a56 Subject: [Spridgets] Tattos - not really much LBC content Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I like classic cars to be modified cars but done with taste and a good measure of period correct. I like some hot-rods too. So I'm not that struck on women with tattoos but it's possible that it can look ok. It always seems to me that whatever colours tattoos start out with they all turn to deep blue or black eventually. I'm not really a big fan of cosmetic surgery either as it never seems to look 'correct' to my well trained eye. Here in the UK it's the exception rather than the norm to see topless women on the beach (shore) but when you do you only have to see them sunbathing with everything solidly pointing to the sun to know they are fake. In fact I think it' because they are fake they go topless in the first place as a kind of 'look at me/look at my tits' expression. Driving your Spridget with your top down is ok and simply an expression to stay cooler on a hot day rather than pose and try to look cool. In fact it's great to drive with the top down in winter so long as it' at night and the sky is clear so you can see the stars. Weslake-Monza 1330 - Household painting ground to a halt as drying time is slow.. In a message dated 11/06/2013 02:30:34 GMT Daylight Time, dlh2001@comcast.net writes: I guess for me it like cars, original equipment tattoos vs. hot rod, resto-mod tattoos. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Trevor Jessie Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 7:52 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Blackhawk Sprite Midget Challenge #2 "But this full body technicolor stuff today...I don't know...to over the top for me" ...not my cup of tea either. However, if a women has tats then it is an excuse to stare at her body, as in "No dear, I was just looking at her tattoos". ;) -Trevor ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 11 03:50:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D673B42742 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 03:50:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m09.mx.aol.com (omr-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98F3403F8 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 03:50:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by omr-m09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 02D097007B8C1; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 05:41:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-doe005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-doe005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.163.81]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id BAAD8E000082; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 05:41:31 -0400 (EDT) From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 05:41:31 -0400 (EDT) To: johnsfolly@gmail.com, spridgets@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1370943691; bh=SnLehM6cmxCmOfCXIlKqh6pOAZQIshIfMRpMbpl0Ea8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Oz59/8ALSzD4z0FC1Qq7Fp0lnGqBGP9CbXPufkdHHtyANHIi4eg2AvPy5wL9w96+1 tjdy9kGDJiWPcrREGBUPBqzerv69KRHoax/8POu2PD6Ah8zxQ8iMGfk8vljwVI98XQ pz/TI4QXUQZfdZfxIZoJxFQisNcFy1av73dTv1bs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb51b6f0cb69ea Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Lister Gone Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I think I met Roger if he ever went to the East Coast Spridgets Meet organised by Rick Moses. Did he have a Pierce aluminium head on his bugeye in 2008? In a message dated 31/05/2013 03:56:44 GMT Daylight Time, johnsfolly@gmail.com writes: Maybe I missed this, if it was posted on the list....I just learned that one of our group from long, Roger Cotting of South Lyon, MI, died awhile back. He was one of the so-called "Ann Arbor BugEye Boys" and a decent guy. Understand his wife is selling off a barn full of Spridget stuff, including a couple of BE tubs. JohnD -- *Driving in the past lane!* JohnsfollyVintageRacing ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 11 09:57:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C92E40359 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:57:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f49.google.com (mail-pa0-f49.google.com [209.85.220.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16C740325 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 09:56:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id ld11so2747913pab.8 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:51:31 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=A+z0/at3mBdEMwWaItgxR2Ib0Xbo2LNPLtKaHmeauEk=; b=zZjofVIQKdj/C9JjSAHhvKrhEbAMsuhuc8WPfjE9VSDFshGza4bgI6dIYw1URuR0Dj KwU/e9Bi3A9rTlo8L+b96oQXQytV335HKA3fBsdOaAx/LthK6ymCAmnINrw3Y+DCyMF9 i6FiEcUgtS2KKo9I6vc/wCY90p45SV49+xs1DC4cy+Alu4+QtxlEnO5Q+yqhg42uCdJ9 P682qF6RPxf6k5YbbEUMElmCA+aPZzXYy9K+4AadSBBpfUJ0r7ct7GNqAW1I3QbU6Qu9 /4qLiCgUoVTl48o180p+t2JRjmP50hO3f8WfnsTRw+6JLf6ZXp3uQWRcZimI9Iwqf7I4 tIrg== wi5mr19908243pab.33.1370965573330; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.233.101 with HTTP; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 08:46:13 -0700 From: Rick Bastedo To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky 2? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone interested in a pink MK2 Sprite? http://www.barnfinds.com/barbies-first-car-1962-austin-healey-sprite/ Cheap but no drive train. Rick (not for me) Bastedo ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 11 10:11:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABEF440357 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:11:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm17.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm17.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B12CC40323 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 10:10:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.99] by nm17.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2013 16:05:34 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.74] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2013 16:05:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1011.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2013 16:05:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 32116 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jun 2013 16:05:33 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370966733; bh=zuRCr90hB4UJNsdHsmuOFfWGom6xkqObqswQ9NJJlWY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1Xya4pawrcJ1JlI42EUqugY1OBEd5BkOZb2EhLd8KaraSfcU0YRcY+C0FrsFzVcb4H/jQR+FiY8sZxemkCcTHzoL8Joh8mgZ8y7N1zkgaApRIZTFevQDd4g+mvixq2lXF0dF/JKGs7PFftboaP2xJJwzm8dgX2+vLfwyY2ZjlsM= s=s1024; d=snet.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uWv2ukBx5My8bRqEuEsBDbZKVGHpMmwhy++Ob1sLa+en5mp/1eJCtNsPGthGfajFsDZ7oKdOGPBnSZg4QF5PZBHjCN4Wdutag2k/hWrDFZH2CoeZjrVqXt1g9GsLYMgj09lGRB6RobMWkooipaa/WyVPQmJq7649mScxM+BXUJk=; TYtTRH3XLP4vSXATg2EnuJvxvUHQbZUcgpbCtky1l9KIlwHe1Go5v1Y2MKlE pG.ZfqcCFqQwgP.65lIMR0kIA.bZWCw0w8Ap5yBK6DbA_NiDGMe7jXlTKhZr mbPmNeP.aqzXovwfXsrNmHK7anED0BE9PgCZEqmlyGR9OTT7t9fXKNwzX5jL vjYkITRu8I0BQq.hf7fUxTSQKdFLndvUB.OK9Vu3AvYdvQif8GhW.Rabyffv EJeEQsXZi_U4_mvnF0UxUshHKVsbHLtBRsWWFFcUezOl19l6KT3Fc6035aqz gMmzOzPM6zaE2sejhL7fjWxp5sa3EiwN9nIi5YUdiPFSKjZjCs41Tw65AInB mvDW4QkqTK4qMhvEfXJ5pP2kNTH4X08_4HjNTOz9EILJdhU16CNTquNudr9i AIGZzgVSiPMD8e.yeXJl8brBYk1E1_ahfNnM6YQdnNXaNlwyjno2Fz.MbQb. 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(Someone removed the drivetrain since it was sold a few months back on eBay.) jay fishbein wallingford, ct 61 Innocenti 950 Spider 63 Pink Sprite Mk II >________________________________ > From: Rick Bastedo >To: Spridgets >Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:46 AM >Subject: [Spridgets] Pinky 2? > > >Anyone interested in a pink MK2 Sprite? > >http://www.barnfinds.com/barbies-first-car-1962-austin-healey-sprite/ > >Cheap but no drive train. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 11 12:29:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E7E40338 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 12:29:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from atl4mhob07.myregisteredsite.com (atl4mhob07.myregisteredsite.com [209.17.115.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D055C400AD for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 12:21:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.211]) by atl4mhob07.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r5BIFtDP010169 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 14:15:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 24747 invoked by uid 0); 11 Jun 2013 18:15:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.215.134.28?) 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net The floors look very solid...and flat. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 11 12:30:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4132F4042A for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 12:30:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB69140325 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 12:26:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2013 18:21:16 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.216] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2013 18:21:16 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jun 2013 18:21:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 46010 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Jun 2013 18:21:16 -0000 s=s1024; t=1370974876; bh=iVkVEmmVVQ0QRLhLdQTnKfZ3jYC9H8IjsDK4TWJtg/U=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TdyVqm6Swa2FfCdScCC3ALi5z+h9RFBULPMwD5OyTHZeDDqGIhUp5AfJAXz2XM7HcdclHQ24cMtnbCT80skoSsVzZ3VeXXiuL7o2gT1e0OJBPC4/7ZCfn2+rQdGD6gIrp5gxT0+zO7b1Pjxej2aU5Keu1flvmwscOksSoXspVtQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=f0ur2tsQ7r7S6E9gaj8avCNUKsTvwxNsHC4/0E9kMS2DJz/TtkC+HL24Z45Japx7fNezY0zlK8YNynjCbRMHUmFFbNaITbGfhTrNumnHeY5sWY/+XPTpmb0tAkV5fKfU4w/PNOZyKkReTT7KV6bdMuelVLwuWaHGOP4oIlB4QHg=; roA7lFTQiX0MLSkjE2rwo2_4BdLelV.jB2yMBEWy.iMQjWKv2D7Zj5KFtrmF XRD9FjGps.wc.PpwNRx3gMKRAu9xepgbfTHi8DKYh.GN4_P1lKWRSi202nS7 klPs5cyA5o.JV7Dc5U_PKe1XnFvTZyo9dBBFpAlvfeG1S7X4NiVmf0SB9FfS s7B2YkID8uS81dMZNyjcPX7pAEPr4VXZQLKOb7ShHVogFbwKH5Xl8iAFy1nW KSckx9oeh5ituAwF.2msfL.ZtI0vHKcTluoJtwZVq98cbQ3Zy3b0NOjY2McS r1koISCCQ_R.BIr845QBIrHWTtbEVgDbW7AG3PDh.EPYP0.WE6VKEpsAOhKj T2BZMVsON29nAt5sPTePnYPyrUwT8D29gqRRu2r_bru54KB_cXnwqC8Ep7Qo Bq8n7WjYCza7Ej0vDr7DzFQUEc5jDINxtyUzeH_GN5pTJj1RMj.6sRJDf9Kj T4lZpAeJ5uSCrW3yWDFhiI5SYMoc89Aamcg2c.PK6TgD90TuTJNPZRkdY2s7 2bYZ8O.sRXtzLdqvMZreURPINXWo4tpwEMuu6USHrzEBIFbD9N7gbQczDktg vE5DqOs3Q97goNP6x0sgxQ42hBo6b5xd.YwcozaBMiIM9.hiATkSrzVNpnle FjoEa43shBygFTFtnq82odRnqrDqnAvqvdJjZlTQHt1sjdLhUO3PKgdjcPWp ob254lJk4vBue Received: from [24.136.88.12] by web140403.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:21:16 PDT SmF5LA0KwqANClRoaW5ncyBoYXZlIGNoYW5nZWQgZnJvbSB0aGUgb2xkIGRheXMgd2hlbiB0aGV5IGZpcnN0IHN0YXJ0ZWQgZ3JvdXBzLg0KT25lIG9mIHRoZSBtYWpvciByZWFzb25zIG5vdCB0byBhbGxvdyBhdHRhY2htZW50cyB3ZXJlIHRoZSBzaXplIGVtYWlsIGZpbGUuDQpQZW9wbGUgb24gZGlhbCB1cCB0aGV5IHRvb2sgZm9yIGV2ZXIgJiBvZiBjb3Vyc2UgdmlydXMuDQpJIGFtIG1vZGVyYXRvciBvZsKgdGhlIG1vcnJpc19tb3RvcnMgZ3JvdXAgb24geWFob28uDQpXZSBoYXZlIGFsbG93ZWQgYXR0YWMBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2013 11:21:16 -0700 (PDT) From: To: spridgets@autox.team.net, Sprite , Midget/Sprite Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Group attachments - list concern Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Jay, Things have changed from the old days when they first started groups. One of the major reasons not to allow attachments were the size email file. People on dial up they took for ever & of course virus. I am moderator of the morris_motors group on yahoo. We have allowed attachments in the group for several years. We get practically No spam & never had any Viruses. The spam comes when some one has their ID hacked. You can not stop that until after the first message. Then you moderate their posts until the user fixes his problem. This way your not boobed with spam from that id again. Yahoo changed the way they do attachments a few years back. They scan attachments and put them in a folder for viewing. The folder is located just under the messages folder on the web site. On the bottom of the email there is a link to take you to the new attachment. So i respectively disagree with not allowing attachments to a group. As they say a picture is worth a thousand words. For example. Scanned documents from a factory service parts list can be very helpful when looking for an obscure part. Or a picture of how some thing should look to see if yours is the same. Vigil --- On Tue, 6/11/13, WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com wrote: From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye list easy fix was Spridgets list concern To: oldsaabguy@comcast.net, spridgets@autox.team.net Date: Tuesday, June 11, 2013, 2:30 AM Not all listers have a Bugeye! Regards Weslake-Monza 1330 In a message dated 10/06/2013 15:43:40 GMT Daylight Time, oldsaabguy@comcast.net writes: Why not just tart a "New Bugeye" list on Yahoo and abandon this one? Lester On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:27 29AM, Jay wrote: > Yes, that's correct. > > The bugeye list gives subscribers the ability to receive photos as well as spam. > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > To: bugeye@yahoogroups.com; Spridgets Spridgets > Sent: Mon, June 10, 2013 10:14:14 AM > Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets list concern > > Am I correct in remembering that you can not include pictures with your posts > on the Spridgets list and that was one of the reasons that we have the Bugeye > list here on Yahoo? > > Lester > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy@comcast.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/weslakemonza1330@aol.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/uniquelittlecars@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 12 20:33:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB0F40448 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 20:33:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FAE940400 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 20:28:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130613022324.WEUB10143.mta41.charter.net@imp11> for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 22:23:24 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.114] ([75.134.176.130]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id nePQ1l00K2pAxSb05ePQ2q; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 22:23:24 -0400 a=Py4t3GyzpY5HiGdPXRMyTw==:17 a=7Vtkk4Wg9cEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=4ycV2vTZAAAA:8 a=FE4feNvX_pEA:10 a=dVj2Qd1L0Mg-l0KIfwYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Py4t3GyzpY5HiGdPXRMyTw==:117 From: Rick Fisk Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 22:23:25 -0400 To: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: [Spridgets] Midget woes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Took the Midget on a 30 mile round trip this evening for a barbequed prime rib dinner. Dinner was great. When I got home I pulled in the driveway and shut the car off. But the ignition light then turned ON. Turn the key on the light goes off. Turn the key off and the light goes on. Hmmm, alternator has puked. Wonder where that spare generator and regulator are in my heck of a mess garage? :-) ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 12 22:03:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5A1403E7 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 22:03:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BD54006F for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 22:03:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id nflx1l0021HzFnQ55fxyjd; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 03:57:58 +0000 Received: from blackbox2 ([69.253.143.59]) by omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id nfxy1l00F1H6MAV3afxy6v; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 03:57:58 +0000 From: "Dean Hedin" To: "'Rick Fisk'" , References: <03D4A480-0147-4F28-AC4C-E91BF4850E24@chartermi.net> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 23:57:51 -0400 Thread-index: Ac5n3ZXcH0Kn+fWXSriy78yCxk1HIwADIXGQ s=q20121106; t=1371095878; bh=pq9I5OLXRrbj/kwQ96nFMkyxZZc+/TE6adR5uE/gozs=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=MRb1H/bIFjW8B3cw9EeI6XEwZDF/df9CAajrBHIodzZAzS3rpa82rsWee6J20TY3f iY6C0LCLRe58RhpW5KDj7XIw8BM1tLeyFCbrtkOdh4USrEI+rqY8unmbYg3PLi7WKj IU0xM1YbFyeC43heBW3VF08I1Au9YhazqwLZkZnIa4eACb44kRo1s94liW4wtLsrrN 0Lecv/KqUvD/n4nfqf6oAVjMCJxXkYkgLk6pERRNxiQTJRO2Ihls2sQjaX+ocYX+v8 zHGJbkgxzFM6WM00PGsLDjxmFGZ9H6qcm7nMHCoDXvijEuBl2CWhlhJ3tdA1PF7VLR QaPf0ug4tw9uw== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget woes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net ...and the alternator failed after how many miles? -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Fisk Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:23 PM To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Midget woes Took the Midget on a 30 mile round trip this evening for a barbequed prime rib dinner. Dinner was great. When I got home I pulled in the driveway and shut the car off. But the ignition light then turned ON. Turn the key on the light goes off. Turn the key off and the light goes on. Hmmm, alternator has puked. Wonder where that spare generator and regulator are in my heck of a mess garage? :-) ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlh2001@comcast.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 12 22:09:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90E74041E for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 22:09:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B5540074 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2013 22:09:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130613040421.XSDJ10143.mta41.charter.net@imp09>; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 00:04:21 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.114] ([75.134.176.130]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id ng4M1l0062pAxSb05g4Mte; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 00:04:21 -0400 a=Py4t3GyzpY5HiGdPXRMyTw==:17 a=7Vtkk4Wg9cEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=4ycV2vTZAAAA:8 a=oATyO59E0loA:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=PyW8PDjGbwxBs151cCYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=Py4t3GyzpY5HiGdPXRMyTw==:117 References: <03D4A480-0147-4F28-AC4C-E91BF4850E24@chartermi.net> <1FCE8D6F83954EDDA06F94D62F7AB9E5@blackbox2> From: Rick Fisk Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 00:04:22 -0400 To: Dean Hedin Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget woes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net The alternator failed after 61,000 and some miles. Of course it's the original Prince of Darkness version that came on the car when it left the factory. :-) Sent from my keyboard On Jun 12, 2013, at 11:57 PM, "Dean Hedin" wrote: > ...and the alternator failed after how many miles? > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rick Fisk > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:23 PM > To: spridgets@autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] Midget woes > > Took the Midget on a 30 mile round trip this evening for a barbequed prime > rib dinner. Dinner was great. When I got home I pulled in the driveway and > shut the car off. > > But the ignition light then turned ON. Turn the key on the light goes off. > Turn the key off and the light goes on. Hmmm, alternator has puked. Wonder > where that spare generator and regulator are in my heck of a mess garage? > :-) > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dlh2001@comcast.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 13 11:41:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E001340420 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 11:41:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B30403E2 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 11:34:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home (ool-18ba401c.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.64.28]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MOC00DN4DVXQH60@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:28:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:28:43 -0400 From: Michael Rowe To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] 1275 vacuum advance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Because of a size mismatch, my vacuum advance is not attached, and the take-off tube is blocked. I just had to redo it yesterday, because the blocking fell off and my idle speed doubled; otherwise, it did not obviously matter. If I do not stomp on the gas all the time, because I am an old fart, and because I currently have very limited use of second gear in this car, does the vacuum advance actually do anything? Michael Rowe 1275 Midget ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 13 13:38:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D37E4292D for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:38:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f171.google.com (mail-ie0-f171.google.com [209.85.223.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B704279C for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 12:41:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id qd12so12842665ieb.2 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 11:36:27 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=/c9E9RFAfIKS+iqh++Wa16SKpIST1bTAq5uLigmfVww=; b=xleoBw51HlNvCdwefk64gC8xh0fgaLmIABXSNKhDTgn8bPAgxzg6Hft8GfyDefQwsI T9sqMweG7UW2lmA0xRoPKsPXMIiemXK/sUxvF79iYKdZNHR0XKn1NyYUNwOlW440/sdv ucK64ladUJZM2IERkYrb3rqsj8f9cCV7qHwuIJDeLMYeGvq2h1LM7Ff5wGrHNba6DXl/ LttKAtG0jVXtLJenGsqZQlsW+Um7m5ccoYG+WXpEK6cys4X4jAz3qGi+yY0gD44uMbyF +9lx/L/EKrL1IM9iWPt5Gq9mTDOIQwvGqkiteX5x4DLehrOinlLYgWaX5g8utRxTH9n+ G49A== x12mr6300380igr.66.1371148587406; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 11:36:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.6.106 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 11:36:27 -0700 (PDT) References: <2DFA36DD71104E08AC088E8AB27F229C@Home> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:36:27 -0500 From: Jim Johnson Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1275 vacuum advance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Michael, My understanding is that the vacuum advance kicks in at higher RPMs to advance the timing of the distributor. I would guess that at higher RPMs the engine wouldn't run as well and as efficiently without advanced timing. Standard disclaimer - "I could be wrong". ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Because of a size mismatch, my vacuum advance is not attached, and the > take-off tube is blocked. I just had to redo it yesterday, because the > blocking fell off and my idle speed doubled; otherwise, it did not > obviously matter. > > If I do not stomp on the gas all the time, because I am an old fart, and > because I currently have very limited use of second gear in this car, does > the vacuum advance actually do anything? > > Michael Rowe > 1275 Midget > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman@gmail.com > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Dodge City 300 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 13 15:42:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 240904304F for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 15:42:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 838D1428A8 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 14:58:21 -0600 (MDT) a=8VDxsmN6PfbejGKqDU6fXg==:17 a=3A4MjUZaCLcA:10 a=nWZo5VSqEgYA:10 a=6dQklX7mJcoA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=2UL3gIzWMvYA:10 a=xRfjoxBpAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=IsK8WaOUR782zgy9aLoA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=bgAgzZxQv2QA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=8VDxsmN6PfbejGKqDU6fXg==:117 Received: from [97.71.74.253] ([97.71.74.253:32824] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 7E/DC-25428-0213AB15; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:52:49 +0000 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 13:52:56 -0700 From: Jon Paschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <2DFA36DD71104E08AC088E8AB27F229C@Home> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1275 vacuum advance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Nope, vacuum advance is only for mileage, think about it when you got your foot in the gas the throttle plate is open to the the air so there is no vacuum because air is allowed to flow to the engine, when you are just cruising the throttle plate is about closed so there is vacuum from the restriction and safely advances the timing. When you step on the gas the vacuum goes away and retards the timing to keep the motor safe. Racers don't use a vacuum advance as they have no use for good mileage and to much advance kills motors. On 6/13/2013 11:36 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Michael, > > My understanding is that the vacuum advance kicks in at higher RPMs to > advance the timing of the distributor. I would guess that at higher RPMs > the engine wouldn't run as well and as efficiently without advanced > timing. Standard disclaimer - "I could be wrong". ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > >> Because of a size mismatch, my vacuum advance is not attached, and the >> take-off tube is blocked. I just had to redo it yesterday, because the >> blocking fell off and my idle speed doubled; otherwise, it did not >> obviously matter. >> >> If I do not stomp on the gas all the time, because I am an old fart, and >> because I currently have very limited use of second gear in this car, does >> the vacuum advance actually do anything? >> >> Michael Rowe >> 1275 Midget >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 13 16:19:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0064C42D5D for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:19:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d01.mx.aol.com (omr-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.252.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8039F403E3 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 15:09:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by omr-d01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 17FA470067D19; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:04:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dod004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dod004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.161.13]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D54B4E000087; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:04:15 -0400 (EDT) From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:04:15 -0400 (EDT) To: bmwwxman@gmail.com, mdrowe@optonline.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1371157456; bh=21E7KYwdjoTKle1QtS76iGIOs/QS/K6p2SGR0B9dxgA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NjgGFVCKQZ/OKg3hcDdpcmpSY9X+PocX/B0Rdum/OkRwVKU9itqhm9/EMzwjsnpd3 40/g9opdUXVBStWq6ZuczB9S5Bni5A/kjbAWaONZx4LNPMHYCtbD2hZ7joYSnd7b4s ED9k2pudFnAy70y7lCUNxiO8fs2gHxfbiKzbyez0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d51ba33cf4353 Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1275 vacuum advance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net The vacuum advance is there to increase gas mileage and you sound like the sort of driver who would get a benefit (I'm the opposite, I do stomp on the gas all the time and like to get everywhere quickly!). The vacuum advance advances the ignition at low rpm when the manifold pressure is high. It's because it advances the ignition at low rpm/high manifold pressure the gas mileage increases. However, I haven't checked this stuff some someone else chime in if it's only 75% correct. In a message dated 13/06/2013 20:31:49 GMT Daylight Time, bmwwxman@gmail.com writes: Michael, My understanding is that the vacuum advance kicks in at higher RPMs to advance the timing of the distributor. I would guess that at higher RPMs the engine wouldn't run as well and as efficiently without advanced timing. Standard disclaimer - "I could be wrong". ;-) Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Michael Rowe wrote: > Because of a size mismatch, my vacuum advance is not attached, and the > take-off tube is blocked. I just had to redo it yesterday, because the > blocking fell off and my idle speed doubled; otherwise, it did not > obviously matter. > > If I do not stomp on the gas all the time, because I am an old fart, and > because I currently have very limited use of second gear in this car, does > the vacuum advance actually do anything? > > Michael Rowe ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 13 17:11:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97914431E2 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:11:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F6F4277D for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:02:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home (ool-18ba401c.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.64.28]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MOC008VFQAMUCH0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:56:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:56:44 -0400 From: Michael Rowe To: Jon Paschke , spridgets@autox.team.net References: <2DFA36DD71104E08AC088E8AB27F229C@Home> <51BA3128.4040708@bak.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1275 vacuum advance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I clearly had the workings of the VA backward I guess I should just ream out the rubber fitting on the end of the VA tube to fit my too-large take-off pipe. It is not really hard, it just takes time and skill not to damage the fitting. Thanks all, Michael Rowe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Paschke" To: Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1275 vacuum advance > Nope, vacuum advance is only for mileage, think about it when you got > your foot in the gas the throttle plate is open to the the air so there is > no vacuum because air is allowed to flow to the engine, when you are just > cruising the throttle plate is about closed so there is vacuum from the > restriction and safely advances the timing. When you step on the gas the > vacuum goes away and retards the timing to keep the motor safe. Racers > don't use a vacuum advance as they have no use for good mileage and to > much advance kills motors. > > On 6/13/2013 11:36 AM, Jim Johnson wrote: >> Michael, >> >> My understanding is that the vacuum advance kicks in at higher RPMs to >> advance the timing of the distributor. I would guess that at higher RPMs >> the engine wouldn't run as well and as efficiently without advanced >> timing. Standard disclaimer - "I could be wrong". ;-) >> >> Cheers!! >> Jim >> >> On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Michael Rowe >> wrote: >> >>> Because of a size mismatch, my vacuum advance is not attached, and the >>> take-off tube is blocked. I just had to redo it yesterday, because the >>> blocking fell off and my idle speed doubled; otherwise, it did not >>> obviously matter. >>> >>> If I do not stomp on the gas all the time, because I am an old fart, and >>> because I currently have very limited use of second gear in this car, >>> does >>> the vacuum advance actually do anything? >>> >>> Michael Rowe >>> 1275 Midget >>> ------------------------ >>> >>> spridgets@autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman@gmail.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/mdrowe@optonline.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 13 17:12:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D641D442DB for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:12:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f177.google.com (mail-ie0-f177.google.com [209.85.223.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A257D40540 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 16:09:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f177.google.com with SMTP id aq17so9531938iec.8 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 15:04:19 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=aJB+1Z+WEYC4Qxbmy50zEBh8+9qm50wsCbIpanJo8qA=; b=0y3qQJjlvNQP3haf+BQdTRfw7inuh0JGFgYXEQOKhdNAZCIgAwHsZCJ9FJUEWsRpfw +B1eDaiXk/hWdsuhMnS+YZzaJb/JXh4TkEtf2ovnjPtZipId1R5LHIXnKfPTfOIp4pXo cepAzUN5mqHW3b+Fd4+YPBke54oLcsI2E1OHvGyQ4lwlWLIL4D3AC+kHmXe16xC2a3ou 7hU264s0A3IakWnd1ep5siYS/cHl67L0IldURFsDvPM9zzOVmvjIhRukCJJofHKyIRpO ozUcyKrKRxFJN5hgW+pXl8u2HqE3PwmSm1ZwzV1mzBt6w7KFwn6kV+b+XbjyIb/Dx2+t Opfw== Thu, 13 Jun 2013 15:04:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.6.106 with HTTP; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 15:04:18 -0700 (PDT) References: <77f03.280186ca.3eeb8dcf@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:04:18 -0500 From: Jim Johnson To: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1275 vacuum advance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Well, as usual I got it backwards!! ;-) I was thinking you don't have a lot of vacuum in the manifold until the engine RPM is increased. Ha! Dumkoff! Cheers!! Jim On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 4:04 PM, wrote: > ** > The vacuum advance is there to increase gas mileage and you sound like the > sort of driver who would get a benefit (I'm the opposite, I do stomp on the > gas all the time and like to get everywhere quickly!). > > The vacuum advance advances the ignition at low rpm when the manifold > pressure is high. It's because it advances the ignition at low rpm/high > manifold pressure the gas mileage increases. > > However, I haven't checked this stuff some someone else chime in if it's > only 75% correct. > > > > In a message dated 13/06/2013 20:31:49 GMT Daylight Time, > bmwwxman@gmail.com writes: > > Michael, > > My understanding is that the vacuum advance kicks in at higher RPMs to > advance the timing of the distributor. I would guess that at higher RPMs > the engine wouldn't run as well and as efficiently without advanced > timing. Standard disclaimer - "I could be wrong". ;-) > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Michael Rowe > wrote: > > > Because of a size mismatch, my vacuum advance is not attached, and the > > take-off tube is blocked. I just had to redo it yesterday, because the > > blocking fell off and my idle speed doubled; otherwise, it did not > > obviously matter. > > > > If I do not stomp on the gas all the time, because I am an old fart, and > > because I currently have very limited use of second gear in this car, > does > > the vacuum advance actually do anything? > > > > Michael Rowe > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Dodge City 300 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 13 17:57:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12AD5444DA for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:57:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B444F43032 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 17:05:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id no3k1l0021HzFnQ5Cyzakf; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:59:34 +0000 Received: from infraware.co.kr ([208.54.90.138]) by omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id nyz41l0132z68ug3ayzCnU; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:59:29 +0000 From: "r.alkins001" To: =?utf-8?B?Sm9uIFBhc2Noa2U=?= ,spridgets@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:59:01 GMT s=q20121106; t=1371164375; bh=DRkTLzrygXCu8NGLHyTKxVQaKLTwPY6pPxyrgyU1e+8=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=X5Hflx73Rqyp08Jxmw5M8SanjPh8/lNlyy4CdMaiw6cMGcWYQRlQl2xeKQuDiDr6w MCOAWoTtF3u6bNFUW+0Rc/cuXR2LztvCYf73vBb8M4tlHkQBNS5X8H+q7ZBfU/eT34 mmXxXUVZhtsGQYYNlheqVd/Ya3IjUlz2CGUZxu4CvLXDuK9EAjgAPpQHHCLPcvmwhj c5Wft5h3knQsJ4NwyAUpy1pkT4jM0vP3ZFNJuHGgfbtDLjaiDBa2+SYMFFv1tYwSpk 4zz86VBXHEzq8W7EQI26W8z+0aiKY11TWh9sXYzUY4G081VhH7+vqNQY9ldmjesgns Ogxg5R0OBlEug== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1275 vacuum advance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 13 20:10:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDBF42836 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:10:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from xsmtp06.mail2web.com (xsmtp26.mail2web.com [168.144.250.193]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3C94435F for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 19:17:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.5.2.16] (helo=xmail06.myhosting.com) by xsmtp06.mail2web.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UnIYQ-0001Jw-Hj for spridgets@autox.team.net; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:11:50 -0400 Received: (qmail 9511 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2013 01:11:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO [172.16.1.36]) (Authenticated-user:_sandi@ado13.com@[98.234.21.109]) (envelope-sender ) by xmail06.myhosting.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with ESMTPA for ; 14 Jun 2013 01:11:27 -0000 From: Larry & Sandi Mller Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 18:11:26 -0700 To: Spridget Subject: [Spridgets] Brookland Screen Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Anybody have a set of Brookland Screens they no longer need? Larry Miller BUGZUKI ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 13 21:37:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1935642822 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 21:37:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA0140046 for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2013 20:40:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id o1Jf1l0020Fqzac552ab4Z; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 02:34:35 +0000 Received: from blackbox2 ([69.253.143.59]) by omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id o2ab1l00P1H6MAV3U2abU8; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 02:34:35 +0000 From: "Dean Hedin" To: "'Rick Fisk'" References: <03D4A480-0147-4F28-AC4C-E91BF4850E24@chartermi.net> <1FCE8D6F83954EDDA06F94D62F7AB9E5@blackbox2> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 22:34:27 -0400 Thread-index: Ac5n6xW8o9LwH8RhTkubPocwP/zJpQAug3VQ s=q20121106; t=1371177275; bh=UbgSDWAlPSd6ZCSB/zjir4eUOCJKbdzmT+adrtSyoKk=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=OxBAJwu3swZdAjRJP97Ejv9iD/YPBumcWVQi4VdwZQ8cmTbqOEvMKZGwr1KGOK9nR RYVOPXMP7dqhJHr50a6YAChBjV3buchNjOwQfQ8bDlA0xVwxZhv4UJwW1c4iB4Tq5X gP5n91q0YTnvaRzpYrXkhPDNGU8S/YcrEq5f7wYngpUXS4snYwmsKcdfPystIEECaq CH00BrPUtWBQQ70zXjlNmH1uoB1CnuMTsI0OX89JtpEkoWrNlYvsSZFiEjtQkgm0ZW KVhDHKkz02xPEeB23V70Aij078GFfa9qoPQBs1qNdQ3Ub9p8zZC2+TneFl2NVaT4YO nOzna5dz9dFDA== Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget woes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Very respectable, and that was 61K of maintinence free charging. And not just the miles, but consider the many years. Hard to pull that off with those primitive generators. -----Original Message----- From: Rick Fisk [mailto:refisk@chartermi.net] Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 12:04 AM To: Dean Hedin Cc: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Midget woes The alternator failed after 61,000 and some miles. Of course it's the original Prince of Darkness version that came on the car when it left the factory. :-) ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 14 19:12:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5DFC40540 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:12:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepi206.cox.net (unknown [68.230.241.210]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79404053C for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 18:33:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo110 ([68.230.241.223]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130614220335.UHGS14166.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo110> for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 18:03:35 -0400 Received: from alanfPC ([68.14.145.247]) by eastrmimpo110 with cox id oN3a1l00k5LV45Q01N3b3n; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 18:03:35 -0400 a=T1/AFtjZPl00uPhWOVY7Kg==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=93DXrKac2uIA:10 a=PEsOaUYnkLnEXVzOGggA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=gaBxE0O8rdhe9ohk0nsA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=nNWfsVvwXSjTFmfo:21 a=T1/AFtjZPl00uPhWOVY7Kg==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "alan" To: Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 18:03:56 -0400 Subject: [Spridgets] smmothcase transmission needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Looking for a smoothcase transmission removed from a car in good driving condition Or something redone and refreshed and ready to drop in repair Going in a 1962 Sprite in very original condition Appreciate any and all leads Donbt want to do this job more then once Alan frogeye@cox.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 14 20:11:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BD9042822 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 20:11:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A62A40403 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 20:10:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.127.143.52]) by cdptpa-qmta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20130614180643778.UTMA3080@cdptpa-qmta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 18:06:43 +0000 a=8VDxsmN6PfbejGKqDU6fXg==:17 a=3A4MjUZaCLcA:10 a=nWZo5VSqEgYA:10 a=6dQklX7mJcoA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=2UL3gIzWMvYA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=L_Sd7cWBWypxhRU8fN8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=ks2FYGdWqfwN3C9BEJsA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=tQIDft-Lxyl_3KNZ:21 a=8VDxsmN6PfbejGKqDU6fXg==:117 Received: from [97.71.74.253] ([97.71.74.253:33019] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 93/CA-15971-B3B5BB15; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 18:04:43 +0000 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 11:04:52 -0700 From: Jon Paschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com References: <7b08f.135e7709.3eeca852@aol.com> Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1275 vacuum advance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Hi 1330, I understand that completely my example was say if you are just cruising on the road with all the mechanical in and the vacuum in too and you hit a hill or overtake you step on the gas and the VA goes away to keep the timing safe. Some people think the vacuum advance is for power - there is so much about ignition I don't know I could write a book. ;) Jon On 6/14/2013 10:09 AM, WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com wrote: > Not exactly. > When you step on the gas the vacuum advance doesn't advance the > ignition. However, as the revs increase the centrifugal advance in > the distributor advances the ignition and by a lot more than the > vacuum advance can manage (though I'd have to check that, though both > can vary). > Too much ignition advance can lead to engine failure which is why the > static advance is best set on a rolling road on a modified engine as > too much advance can instantly be seen as a drop in power. > In a message dated 13/06/2013 22:36:34 GMT Daylight Time, > jpaschke@bak.rr.com writes: > > When you step on the gas > the vacuum goes away and retards the timing to keep the motor safe. > Racers don't use a vacuum advance as they have no use for good > mileage > and to much advance kills motors. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 14 20:14:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9814428EC for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 20:14:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from dd12314.kasserver.com (dd12314.kasserver.com [85.13.134.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF09640540 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 20:14:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from myfactory (unknown [80.150.215.39]) by dd12314.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 0D6763200CD6; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:36:49 +0200 (CEST) From: "lists" To: "r.alkins001" Date: 14 Jun 2013 10:36:41 +0200 Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 1275 vacuum advance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net You're all correct, some for 25%, others for 75%, and a very few of you to 0%. The true story about vacuum advance: Vacuum advance kicks in, when the engine is revving and the throttle is not fully open. The higher the revs (eginge breathes) and the more the throttle is closed (breathing is restricted) the more vacuum you have in your manifold, which results in more (up to a certain degree) spark advance. Reason for that: The more vacuum you have in your manifold, the lower is the filling degree of your cylinders (because the engine can't breathe as much as it wants to). The lower the filling degree of your cylinders, the slower is the burn rate of the air/fuel mixture. The slower the burn rate of the air/fuel mixture, the more advance you need (because otherwise the pressure resulting from the burnt gases hits the piston too far down its way to its BDC). Conclusion: Vacuum advance is very effective for the driver not putting the pedal to the metal. For the racer it will not come into effect. Eric www.brits-n-pieces.com specialists for 123ignition ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 14 20:18:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74552429F5 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 20:18:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f176.google.com (mail-wi0-f176.google.com [209.85.212.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 191C942714 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 20:17:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f176.google.com with SMTP id ey16so866848wid.3 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:16:43 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=mEv9FQ30MSCaC/susCIx9WtYWahhfMPoDCnQm2EKQts=; b=gDEEjwWIiOGe1MdXwocS+uUeIPvFQ4iU8T/+oZ/zjKDLVQixbOeaxYT/hqdhN4RjVs a2NRQrNpnj29iVFPMYrDXd58WaxBiNNheWZNdKjkbl0gDlq39dz3//ikJymqdum1WuUX wWQuhAhQxt1tpC2rgbgurUeF2jnqQhnmMmDuSUhHEYWiDl/lHuK2D1BKuH/T0iGfoBDU WWCs3tltlDzKE/RSpbZOl9a34PwAnsrZHAEYbD63u6x5uiV7ekPEYxc3r35fCX7gSzYa zknVmUGP/kjopluvQlc+TZRHDrtl1iSSBCaHplM1YXp5cu0WqB903H8SIPjCJKJTG+tb 3oRA== Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:28:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.85.13 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:28:36 -0700 (PDT) References: <25464.57d77fbc.3ee84853@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 13:28:36 -0400 From: Linda Grunthaner To: Daniel Stapleton Cc: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye list easy fix was Spridgets list concern Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Bugeyes are over-rated....wink. Lin On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 5:30 AM, wrote: > Not all listers have a Bugeye! > > Regards > > Weslake-Monza 1330 > > > In a message dated 10/06/2013 15:43:40 GMT Daylight Time, > oldsaabguy@comcast.net writes: > > Why not just tart a "New Bugeye" list on Yahoo and abandon this one? > > Lester > > > On Jun 10, 2013, at 9:27 29AM, Jay wrote: > > > Yes, that's correct. > > > > The bugeye list gives subscribers the ability to receive photos as well > as > spam. > > > > jay fishbein > > wallingford, ct > > To: bugeye@yahoogroups.com; Spridgets Spridgets > > > Sent: Mon, June 10, 2013 10:14:14 AM > > Subject: [Spridgets] Spridgets list concern > > > > Am I correct in remembering that you can not include pictures with your > posts > > on the Spridgets list and that was one of the reasons that we have the > Bugeye > > list here on Yahoo? > > > > Lester > > ------------------------ > > > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy@comcast.net > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/weslakemonza1330@aol.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 14 20:28:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3415342A6B for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 20:28:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f42.google.com (mail-wg0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55EE042959 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 20:27:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id z11so2172835wgg.3 for ; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:25:52 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Gbqj+A0sqw5GBIGG4DhySNPKkm8G9DLxqjq8t2/Dr8w=; b=y9koMYKZgkNToHTRVLygUBoWiPCeuB5rGx81/JUnh3b90ahsTgd1jM1JW2HkLDFyxb GnstDcvvZzafJ8MzUOPbufueB1j2SNVt9soklafzxES6eEZyHw3Pw2S7G9BzLTahhedW cRHE2YZzshWJXME5+gUq7HeKbzC6jBp43ye9jbGV7BiOC3JPGOKiN9NC+ymKZKxWEa5I CdzNTE6EqUuWiChv9DgEazpE/JXkTqkLiLgD5Ap8VqqgVw3B5BavjltVJE82irbHlTy7 I2pkJIeHu7HtSoXoQDGv6JpV8n+6y1+8/fH3SHYZGyWtpqGB5jaFf+nV2BAL8rdt2AH3 OvYQ== eq5mr2041306wjd.27.1371230813700; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:26:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.85.13 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Jun 2013 10:26:53 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2013 13:26:53 -0400 From: Linda Grunthaner To: Rick Bastedo Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] New Grandson Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I love your description or shall I say stats ; ) Rick. Lin On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Rick Bastedo wrote: > My new grandson was born yesterday morning at 6:20am. > > Name: Remington (Remi for short) > Curb Weight: 9lb 5oz > Bumper to bumper: 21 inches > HP: ATM about 1/64th but there are upgrades available > > He's adorable (of course I think so). > His little brother likes him so that's a good part of the battle won > already. > > Here is my Picasa web album from yesterday, enjoy. > > > https://picasaweb.google.com/106121126121790278619/Remi?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCKCTsY-okYnwtwE&feat=directlink > > or > > *http://tinyurl.com/mzdmalm > > * > I'm sure many on this list are grandparents, this is our second grand child > and so far I like it a lot better than just about anything*! > > * > Rick (Gramps) Bastedo* > * > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 15 08:08:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F55F40422 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 08:08:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth13.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth13.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DE240043 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 08:07:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [71.236.143.70] (helo=spider) by smtpauth13.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Unr7F-0001Km-W6 for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 10:06:06 -0400 From: To: Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 07:06:03 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac5p0XhLdxORUU+FQsSk5JU0fkuN0w== Subject: [Spridgets] oh oh. There goes my 'investment' Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Boom times are over for restoration business. http://www.driving.ca/research-car/news/Boom+times+over+restoration+business /8519901/story.html Bill in Oregon ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 15 15:02:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36DEF40530 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 15:02:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f181.google.com (mail-we0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29920403EC for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 14:59:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f181.google.com with SMTP id p58so1365635wes.40 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:58:05 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dPX6DhpmPszAfptPpU9MAkiNqoZw0GG0IQ/ZsbTU+cM=; b=Dvm3THsjAOpKMgpYE39iUTcBMb1UJ/whzSxl2crJBleh0nvgEo9iFKdq0e6Zt+8oNr am6E7u9aOiX07hmpLZxRsy89crL6F8+/nuoA0eajKfEzvM5EuR7rpAhoUVWg3a1WGAu5 F3pV9Vd4H+lIuqjiL6wMLss1nba9+JaBw7H+XUfzt8DvypQ73rUUl9VMaAgpPgobHdmn 1Mq2AEzXmo+YoWV11RycBxyEXHcCMGLjcgqWuAkRm8dw0+STRnQDv7rxL9ER/qhVMJQe +ttEvtTJoVSn5Kt8SJ69wgGteme14nVjncLFkGszd+RkXhQF1kkGXUoLwj5/f3TY2UlJ 3GbA== gg4mr1577641wic.27.1371328459533; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.85.13 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 16:34:19 -0400 From: Linda Grunthaner To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Horn contact question, 62 Sprite "Pinky". Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net List, Question, can someone help me with a horn contact problem? I finally got around to re-installing my Sprite stock steering wheel and also a horn assembly I bought 4 years ago after not liking the 12" racing steering wheel I installed 3 years ago. Yes time takes time. I understand the contact aka horn brush with spring assembly goes into the hole on the steering wheel then on to the small hole in the steering wheel boss but what makes the contact? If it is to touch the metal on the dash behind the plastic boss I don't see much metal to make contact. Should there be a metal washer or clip attached to the metal section of frame? Can I add a metal washer so long as it touches the metal dash? I see no wires, clips or anything back behind the dash. Lin 62 Sprite "Pinky" ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 15 17:11:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA47042724 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 17:11:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB2140075 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 16:56:57 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=c6k/jZLkaOEP9RzG1+Qa4+607xYhisf5htN17Z+sSaM1G5bIvA4ukKrvcbU9BgVe; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.40.135.119] (helo=HomeComputer) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1UnyS2-0007x7-BG for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 17:56:02 -0400 From: "Dean Swanson" To: Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 17:56:00 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5qC5seLwgXHXB8R3yRvYjs7iRwoQABifdA Subject: [Spridgets] FW: Horn contact question, 62 Sprite "Pinky". Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net There should be a brass slip-ring in the top of the steering column seen when the steering wheel is removed. The spring loaded double ended grounding brush goes thru the hole in the steering wheel and one end contacts the slip-ring on the top of the steering column and the other end contacts the back side of the steering wheel center push. There is a discussion here: http://www.british-cars.net/mg-midget-sprite-technical-bbs/horn-pushhow-does -the-earth-work-2009030712422329298.htm Or: http://tinyurl.com/mb7puje And a similar exploded view here: http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=29141 -----Original Message----- List, Question, can someone help me with a horn contact problem? I finally got around to re-installing my Sprite stock steering wheel and also a horn assembly I bought 4 years ago after not liking the 12" racing steering wheel I installed 3 years ago. Yes time takes time. I understand the contact aka horn brush with spring assembly goes into the hole on the steering wheel then on to the small hole in the steering wheel boss but what makes the contact? If it is to touch the metal on the dash behind the plastic boss I don't see much metal to make contact. Should there be a metal washer or clip attached to the metal section of frame? Can I add a metal washer so long as it touches the metal dash? I see no wires, clips or anything back behind the dash. Lin 62 Sprite "Pinky" ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 15 17:25:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18F14273F for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 17:25:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com (mail-wi0-f179.google.com [209.85.212.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439F142721 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 17:07:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id hj3so1231647wib.0 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 16:06:40 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=0HP8YUJQdMgWv199QJcEhHJjaJadFeZvehzMnzlSO10=; b=BVf4a7/IME8Pc/npLtdQ7q9elm14SnfVh6fMImM+jxmWPie9LG/QtJ7r/KxvO88lvS 2dAI/F7+Wi8myyy5RgN8imfAunUCjTPWZ7yLV1Qo1Db/0vd5lGcDSdSUN2A2ntG+z8J+ Wy3yLBipei4xk5pdx7BIT78VHrvv2fkMTmBNHJOVAU2Ppm5/aszRF5GlnA4eMBWawIQb 4ZXFg+ednRtof+I1/L/kng/j2HMNGnBsDzX3EaNeyt4IBWJoKCZuXPO4QSSJoW6nThQz /VmAx+4PVQVCI3c6S4mNY9QjFPN4cZFf+1jiTKZOykBVd06df1AUruZkJUcTsO6LdBrL i7XA== a2mr1716965wix.27.1371336122804; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 15:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.85.13 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 15:42:02 -0700 (PDT) References: <76FAB61B2EF64AF497D23E357596A44F@spider> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 18:42:02 -0400 From: Linda Grunthaner To: corvallis@peoplepc.com, Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Horn contact question, 62 Sprite "Pinky". Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Bill, Turns out it is missing a part called slip ring as seen in this photo. It is the brass piece. MOSS listed without image just part number 667-590. http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=29293&SortOrder=40 Anyone have one for sale as I would hate to buy it from MOSS, I thought maybe I can make one out of brass plate, WWFD? Lin On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 5:43 PM, wrote: > Gland down this google search. There are some illustrations and pictures > that may help. I don't have a Bentleys any more. Bill in Corvallis > http://tinyurl.com/lsjepun > > =========================================================== > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner > Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 1:34 PM > To: Spridget list > Subject: [Spridgets] Horn contact question, 62 Sprite "Pinky". > > List, > Question, can someone help me with a horn contact problem? I finally got > around to re-installing my Sprite stock steering wheel and also a horn > assembly I bought 4 years ago after not liking the 12" racing steering > wheel I installed 3 years ago. Yes time takes time. I understand the > contact aka horn brush with spring assembly goes into the hole on the > steering wheel then on to the small hole in the steering wheel boss but > what makes the contact? If it is to touch the metal on the dash behind the > plastic boss I don't see much metal to make contact. Should there be a > metal washer or clip attached to the metal section of frame? Can I add a > metal washer so long as it touches the metal dash? I see no wires, clips or > anything back behind the dash. > Lin > > 62 Sprite "Pinky" > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis@peoplepc.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of slip ring.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Sprite steering wheel.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of topless.jpg] ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 15 17:36:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A0C42759 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 17:36:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A4034006C for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 17:19:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.128.143.54]) by hrndva-qmta04.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20130615213358892.ZLMM29624@hrndva-qmta04.mail.rr.com> for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 21:33:58 +0000 a=wcho/ydQa97mDXA78dTScQ==:17 a=ah4-TjS3KtAA:10 a=crs96XkrnYgA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=yIfiCEq-9CUA:10 a=iHzCNUNCAAAA:20 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=URN_ieQiAAAA:20 a=rg1NbMkXO7TMxopOCmIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=gge12CuGgbZjVDsp:21 a=SwoDbcxstH3deawL:21 a=wcho/ydQa97mDXA78dTScQ==:117 Received: from [72.182.73.185] ([72.182.73.185:49244] helo=AJS) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 04/1E-09005-E4DDCB15; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 21:31:58 +0000 From: "Jim Seippel" To: "'Linda Grunthaner'" , "'Spridget list'" References: Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 16:31:42 -0500 Thread-Index: AQLGZUVCbGf9gX9syc9WGwqb/6wj9ZdHTfNQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Horn contact question, 62 Sprite "Pinky". Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net The horn circuit is grounded through the steering column. Here is the short version. 12V is supplied to the horn. The other side is connected to a brass slip ring attached to the steering column cowl under the steering wheel. The horn brush contacts this slip ring and passes though the wheel boss (from which it is insulated) and presses against a contact pad on the horn button. The horn button is a large push button switch with normally open contacts. It has two connections, one is the slip ring through the horn brush and the other is a sprung loaded connection to the wheel boss where it picks up a ground. When you press the horn button, the circuit is completed and the horn makes an anemic sound resembling a strangling frog. Here is a link to a drawing of the ship ring. http://tinyurl.com/kwyqajk It is item number 5 in the illustration. Jim -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Linda Grunthaner Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 3:34 PM To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Horn contact question, 62 Sprite "Pinky". List, Question, can someone help me with a horn contact problem? I finally got around to re-installing my Sprite stock steering wheel and also a horn assembly I bought 4 years ago after not liking the 12" racing steering wheel I installed 3 years ago. Yes time takes time. I understand the contact aka horn brush with spring assembly goes into the hole on the steering wheel then on to the small hole in the steering wheel boss but what makes the contact? If it is to touch the metal on the dash behind the plastic boss I don't see much metal to make contact. Should there be a metal washer or clip attached to the metal section of frame? Can I add a metal washer so long as it touches the metal dash? I see no wires, clips or anything back behind the dash. Lin 62 Sprite "Pinky" ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 15 18:06:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 796B240541 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 18:06:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A3A240414 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 17:59:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home (ool-18ba401c.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.64.28]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MOG001F3L8Y9G90@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:58:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:58:05 -0400 From: Michael Rowe To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <000101ce6a0f$ba87d1c0$2f977540$@austin.rr.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Horn contact question, 62 Sprite "Pinky". Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net >When you press the horn button, the circuit is completed > and the horn makes an anemic sound resembling a strangling frog. After I got crunched in a parking lot while leaning on the horn and trying to get a baulky transmission into reverse, I went out and bought the loudest Italian air horn I could find that would fit. It can get anyone's attention, and I recommend it. Michael Rowe ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 15 19:23:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA13142710 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:23:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f174.google.com (mail-we0-f174.google.com [74.125.82.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476C042708 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:21:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f174.google.com with SMTP id q58so1442625wes.19 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 18:20:26 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=RykvkuR7zwgsGrtHtXCTT6faVI08L+JDWHVx7WPmSew=; b=GXO75kA3qJtV+f71tmSqYn1ZHnYo1HbzwgyP3DAe4mot/tsXixOf2IV1JbX5e8CyCD LYCfJMcSNQBronwJDFGtuKeMArZ1rVA60Y92AMim/clQoFIFgN2RakswBNTOlYVoOf9O MHhnD2H/VwtfHJeyIrtjf+VXtIya48TnUiOjgOZIbIRn16v+aIeBttaPw9IW2HbCsCnZ tprDhIZqTfuxFzeripC7NFGba9R7GdsNpTiHjD447Q21OFpx3h+vtbY5oAkau3oHtmxk F3rDOlyymSq5NOML/WGQg85P+pk3zbS++irR1ouhPJQCJ/hkwzkRQQ9sr4mUkskCkb6e 3dBw== md9mr1844040wic.57.1371345626629; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 18:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.76.240 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 18:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 21:20:26 -0400 From: CosmicMag1380 To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Nice article on the Cheetah... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net If anyone wants to buy this for me, I'll find room to store it somehow! http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2013/06/13/once-lost-super-cheetah-prototype-discovered-in-garage-after-40-years-now-for-sale/ -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 15 19:36:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB164055B for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:36:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth15.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth15.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1AA54006F for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:33:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [71.236.143.70] (helo=spider) by smtpauth15.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Uo1pi-0001XI-Hj for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 21:32:42 -0400 From: To: References: Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 18:32:38 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac5qMCRI/jrKMv6wQ6ySBNZi7s6pFQAASJAw Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nice article on the Cheetah... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Maybe take up a collection; put a Spridget body on it. Bill in Oregon ==================================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of CosmicMag1380 Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 6:20 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Nice article on the Cheetah... If anyone wants to buy this for me, I'll find room to store it somehow! http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2013/06/13/once-lost-super-cheetah-protot ype-discovered-in-garage-after-40-years-now-for-sale/ -- Kent 1960 Bugeye 1983 Garage full of spridget parts! 2010 Arrow shed full of excess spridget parts!!! ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis@peoplepc.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 15 19:54:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2892B40557 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:54:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216B540416 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:54:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011CFA0792 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:55:41 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:55:41 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <47C4CC6D79954CCC89E281853F28A1DD@spider> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Nice article on the Cheetah... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net corvallis@peoplepc.com wrote: > Maybe take up a collection; put a Spridget body on it. Bill in Oregon > > Sort of like this? http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=155 mjb. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 15 19:57:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E38426B9 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:57:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail22c40.carrierzone.com (mail22c40.carrierzone.com [209.235.156.162]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F5040416 for ; Sat, 15 Jun 2013 19:56:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Dell9200 (c-174-49-34-41.hsd1.tn.comcast.net [174.49.34.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail22c40.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r5G1tkAC010664 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 01:55:47 +0000 From: "Mark" To: "Spridgets" Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 20:56:06 -0500 a=zZKT3jqqOw0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=V6f-GIhDAAAA:8 a=yhQnr46tirsA:10 a=o9iFNtxRAAAA:20 a=R9AOnETB4-H56kI-TlsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=V6RE5z5OoxD22U2SZb2tBg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Subject: [Spridgets] Sensuous Steel Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Guys and Gals, I had an opportunity last night to visit Nashville's Frist Center for the Visual Arts. It was opening night for a new exhibit called Sensuous Steel. Art Deco cars from the 30's and it is Spectacular!! If you are going to be in the Nashville vicinity this summer make a point to see these cars. Here is a link to a short video put together by our local newsrepeater; http://tinyurl.com/mudmt75 The collection was put together by the Frist and will not be shown elsewhere. It will be here through September 15th, The Frist Center is located downtown Nashville where there is lots to do when you are finished with the cars. Mark Nashville ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 16 09:09:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E946340440 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 09:09:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f193.google.com (mail-ve0-f193.google.com [209.85.128.193]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B306403F8 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 09:09:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f193.google.com with SMTP id d10so606455vea.4 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 08:08:33 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=dMLd+Ee6aP/rfQFyF+idMfrKU/p982bv/ShwXQqO7DE=; b=Er1qC3iA0vRfzFPfBk9QgCAyofPwB8zJBBRkGQHsg7VfBYgLYRjO2viIYqEhnk0ulx D3N+NOZ0LckSSlJD+Np9yGM5uoUvrnnKlO+IwUPv3cRkOmx8Qw5tsrLxkWr62la0m2jt EgA4PQ2SXBeedzd/mkFMRJnGdLSANxYYipIdaIxkKFJ9We5sISoNZprw9UUL2ivtL07v 7P4As3U5dFooRMxttDE7z6OS1jlqjgzSCTHjFZXZMX1T+C6PxXgFA6jOinzQN47YOoFn ow3xkL5LCW3AxXzYdjDdZfmQirCJ7ijanI5HD/q2FhvijH35taERCXIOT/WW3jCfoePI 4OpA== cd1mr3365889vcb.32.1371395313114; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 08:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.116.71 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 08:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 11:08:33 -0400 From: John Farley To: Mailing List Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Cooling Fan Type Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net On my 1275 Bugeye I am about to replace the stock downflow radiator with a new aluminum one. I have been using the stock 4 blade fan, shimmed out to clear the "can" on the front of the 1275. Looks like a 6 blade plastic fan would require even more shimming, so I am debating between retaining the current 4 blade fan set-up or removing it altogether and installing an electric fan in its place between the radiator and engine. ( I was told that with the aluminum radiator the only time a fan really would be needed would be sitting at idle.) The group's wisdom would be appreciated. Thanks, John F. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 16 15:25:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0FF40395 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:25:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm8-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18274032C for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 15:25:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.152] by nm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jun 2013 21:23:54 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.235] by tm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jun 2013 21:23:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1044.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Jun 2013 21:23:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 71454 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Jun 2013 21:23:54 -0000 s=s1024; t=1371417834; bh=+62S/eRTKj7uSrfI/6d4w/1mi2IuMNOtRRTP/mTlfEw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=T8pxPih04HAXBgZ/BQqSHxaNlBXjLZ0RNtmI8KDtMYQavXsa26K0ZHHvc8/ZO99Zciesv0yd8AwERZeabIAqfvVEyB+FVQiuE617Bc4qfRYMJJM6nhOMKy41t484EpJ7PG5aSpLxrC8YB7wvfldIF11ScBazwAaaWCxC4DeBupk= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yX7CNohg69wixDj1MGIUVqGvY1zSPdPlWMzjRUfh91ct4/CFlwM2hujA83SrdLlc3F+TfaH6/gBRUWIxxRKOPudhe2q+2JSSmFfPWCu+ZqiMqhFMIDqdaBA2a4zvNgJxFpCrOORjNwtpSHIWTaSK567z6vghhfKA7kZlvtidcE8=; iP0nZHW44xsCMHWPxHyQGeBK_YZd8EdK5rdYIXwBbV_Ypi2yLMQJboluP02N Tn0vF.LwCipHqXjY6uGB_0SxCCzCMr5wpAoGkosnoz9o1mtKPnx4Z.6d6OxJ jvbKUidUE8PDZOF_g7OOzkQCjfgHyeUbfbMkWdGp0OK615iF9o01UANXddVL 7f_g89nSYfciSdTHNzupWeHkI923w_UD04TaKfGBAlYHqgBgL2ZRVLY4QLrf 6w0XxYdd2cHfcfBee5mxITzO3unFky7SaJoxCA2wmXtq4TND7c9kclY7wYpP kpLU2iw2zH3TCKSFw7Ayb1ZOWN3.u.IdrfAYsRQdw3somjP9182CeKb7t7ku zIFQI1QHpTa.kGlT0cMmGwGqKoCGATGPm0c0byaI_VwChm.gDyzJWT11ebKx 7YPwtbGqN.Cj_4IUGg3RwYuBCCwKqGouojlvR1tSnFWOzAz4r1q0oRCnVfS4 lapsVwTtUfubmBsCvrDviYm5Z_OVVrtnT4BBsTS0UZMVv2xU3TO1fP.Kj.er L.dOxy7U2fv0wTg0DranAYUi.BsMnC1BdYlAQCAuJyJXO6hw173JzlsAnkoa 20oxOXDLpKIWFCzIPaXBpwXb7qQGll55K27UT3a2eZyfi4z6JKx8HI3EDLgs Ra_1T8Ort19Fd9WNAnNF4qvzvWLFAWQxvFus0m2OdJxDvLqza1yBs5QPUZfI 4WpyY6Y56ylvROA-- Received: from [72.49.55.38] by web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 14:23:53 PDT SGVyZSB3YXMgbXkgc29sdXRpb24gdG8gdGhlICJjYW4iIGlzc3VlLgrCoApodHRwOi8vd3d3LnNwcmlkZ2V0bWFuaWEuY29tL3BhcnQvMTJBMzEyL1NwYWNlci1GYW4tLS1NaW5pLUNvb3Blci1TcHJpdGUtTW9ycmlzLU1pbm9yCiAKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fCiBGcm9tOiBKb2huIEZhcmxleSA8am1mYXJsZXk2MUBnbWFpbC5jb20.ClRvOiBNYWlsaW5nIExpc3QgU3ByaWRnZXRzIDxzcHJpZGdldHNAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQ.IApTZW50OiBTdW5kYXksIEp1bmUgMTYsIDIwMTMBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 14:23:53 -0700 (PDT) From: John Kuzman To: John Farley , Mailing List Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cooling Fan Type Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Here was my solution to the "can" issue. http://www.spridgetmania.com/part/12A312/Spacer-Fan---Mini-Cooper-Sprite-Morr is-Minor ________________________________ From: John Farley To: Mailing List Spridgets Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2013 11:08 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Cooling Fan Type On my 1275 Bugeye I am about to replace the stock downflow radiator with a new aluminum one. I have been using the stock 4 blade fan, shimmed out to clear the "can" on the front of the 1275. Looks like a 6 blade plastic fan would require even more shimming, so I am debating between retaining the current 4 blade fan set-up or removing it altogether and installing an electric fan in its place between the radiator and engine. ( I was told that with the aluminum radiator the only time a fan really would be needed would be sitting at idle.) The group's wisdom would be appreciated. Thanks, John F. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jjkan5@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 16 16:35:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A6740398 for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:35:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2BA4006F for ; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 16:35:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home (ool-18ba401c.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.64.28]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MOI00HYPC0C1580@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sun, 16 Jun 2013 18:33:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 18:33:42 -0400 From: Michael Rowe To: Mailing List Spridgets References: <1371417833.38264.YahooMailNeo@web142702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Subject: [Spridgets] Testing transmission rebuilds Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone have a nifty method for testing unknown or newly rebuilt transmissions off the car? Long ago, I recall someone suggesting a 1/2" drill. Michael Rowe ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 17 19:02:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5320D403F4 for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:02:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3FF2400AD for ; Mon, 17 Jun 2013 19:00:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id pa6V1l0020mv7h05BczfDz; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 00:59:39 +0000 Received: from blackbox2 ([69.253.143.59]) by omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id pczf1l01A1H6MAV3Xczfrb; Tue, 18 Jun 2013 00:59:39 +0000 From: "Dean Hedin" To: "'Michael Rowe'" , References: <000101ce6a0f$ba87d1c0$2f977540$@austin.rr.com> <63F6C75408F04C3AA0C85B99A9B5242E@Home> Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 20:59:27 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5qJSSO5xZ6saSiS8CTp3R75UTTKABl3EGQ s=q20121106; t=1371517179; bh=TtRf0jOrhGiJAVtnaNF1EEUIBI37uAnKXsHVKsgv9CQ=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=crZ3pNMzuNQBEd9CZ5e6rgQCukUsyJr0w7aEhFFHhALhALmqm+0eLS7S2G7vqgvMN NgHG728qBahY/WYqioyF/Cj6+qHi5UkS1CmxHNcHqxe2IiWUMKB51HpXYPuusrc9Pv KmFS4eYW6pzCd5MWX1ovQxLw4xtNkJ1K5s5RsOkw57J+Vy+Kj4OPM/McEE4TmLmoPX L5Gf9F8wDGuVOA4SEoEnfP+nstJNUaP07bbEj8Wq4lNVVibBWYzeM+gcvgKJNZsBzf a40FZgmFFzE6Rcz/sehrxFy0Jt4VfPSgZMBXvrhScyfxUwh7CvgoXQXFS5ot+f3sjq tRbTYs4Sy3PqQ== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Horn contact question, 62 Sprite "Pinky". Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net >When you press the horn button, the circuit is completed and the horn >makes an anemic sound resembling a strangling frog. Or you can put your original horn safely away (as they are quite rare) and intall one of these... http://dx.com/p/auto-parts-car-electric-horn-speaker-black-12v-90963 http://dx.com/p/72w-car-speakers-pair-12v-117148 I'm using the first one and it has a nice "Herby" kind of sound that is much louder and safer than the original horn. As I recall I only had to cut the bracket and then drill the two holes like original horn bracket. It's about the same size as the original bugeye horn. No relay required, just hooked it up directly. The second ones look even closer to the original bugeye horn, but I have no experience with them. You have to get two of them! One for you and one for a spridget friend. You'll have to cut and drill the bracket on these too. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 20 09:47:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F8A403E2 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:47:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f173.google.com (mail-vc0-f173.google.com [209.85.220.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F70640355 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 09:47:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id ht10so4887866vcb.18 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:46:02 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=BPYvZJ+oT+PAskkF5wP1ZZV8DZc+23kWVcuF1CRo+aQ=; b=rnjIzRgsvvy2Ly1eHH9ZiIfAGn+3MKAck6qAvQuanwKA7wtQh1rxDwrSUBfamy4afc PkOe5ylyyYtoRcyEwVIxEw3aDll4xWv0AeB7KfLZwKt6fC8uTYG2NG+G0IX5pzVCzgd2 dnV4fh6Hxmh0Muw2/gbcERVoH2agi+5X+nCV3usO1QD/DGIfyYwMKGi/QGtOo1i70Jd8 cdpKTg0zj84yHqikXc0DK7NXhiDPut48S9aENeZmaP6S7xDiHAJTHTd0i2TdLm4FMYG9 /uIphEuZpJcO2xFKnME8XdXobaP1VsBCI3JHei3PB9XK6cvTDxFt/3j5cZsCZLb3zlf5 8fqw== yj5mr2852480vdb.104.1371743162360; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.227.137 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:46:02 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 08:46:02 -0700 From: brian To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Spot the cool car. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I know there are plenty of facebook haters out there, but for the rest of you, check out my Alma Mater's facebook page, and see if you can spot the cool car in situ. It is in the parade float picture. No idea what year the picture was taken. https://www.facebook.com/HumboldtState Brian ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 20 12:15:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65017403EB for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:15:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from atl4mhob05.myregisteredsite.com (atl4mhob05.myregisteredsite.com [209.17.115.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EC75403B9 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 12:11:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.207]) by atl4mhob05.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r5KI9pQR026248 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 14:09:51 -0400 Received: (qmail 32590 invoked by uid 0); 20 Jun 2013 18:09:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.209.91.209?) (al@tkorecords.com@75.209.91.209) by 0 with ESMTPA; 20 Jun 2013 18:09:51 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 11:09:48 -0700 From: Billy Zoom To: brian , Spridgets Thread-Topic: [Spridgets] Spot the cool car. Thread-Index: Ac5t4VmumAXs9tnUEeKvmgAewglIlQ== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spot the cool car. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net You mean the T-Bird? ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 20 16:24:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012B140424 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 16:24:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm14-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm14-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD49B403F2 for ; Thu, 20 Jun 2013 16:24:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.177] by nm14.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jun 2013 22:22:59 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.246] by tm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jun 2013 22:22:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1060.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Jun 2013 22:22:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 25003 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jun 2013 22:22:59 -0000 s=s1024; t=1371766979; bh=8GH4ZugaIFl+B0bo7Sl4i5zrtdNltbSHjrKFNh8FwOs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VLLDsq1RaL3/Gl3OjO/Q1QVKrmoXuKYLEQAcvpQB89ma+esp9uJJtshfnfQPyw3zqWFsooLv710+pJaptIohf4mvkYvFn3hRDDKIXfxBHaqsIwrQQwCvJUtVXqkV2T40hRatiAzz7Q4SUORch6feelQMF4ggPaP3a6yewTDJ26E= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AKTgU6SVyD0c1i0KBo95zJlT7xvioD/IYs/IhCnsSnc+uDGfPpdLXofRRK/KQasv9u89m0YHcS8FYIikD5k1/FTnN8wuKbOQkGoSBamvyX1b7J2rX7iyMbL/C5arGL2oPSksk03IQXCuOSlmLVFB9Q2NxeTW7gtp4gJbXVBqhQQ=; XenNzU3wfCGf1uvsCUM0p0AOXTdi_yGygTe7nYANJSoDZw35Z1WIVGZo_7P2 ITpcxhMnTpb.dTmfPFIOh171ZP87_.g_o6ozB8An9OEwUzlj9qZfMQs8I3CY 6ZF7q0KwP1qtSMs5U8RV7AYenCrU9ulcBgWYeSAiFlMGiRTrx1O5qmFS7u7N .SuNe43bESr4CeTvo0c00jJHfMLQAHfbAEmQSFwwomBK.rq0g_n2NT0GvGcZ Ajo4GjWD2_TMy7vfpkFo6b7RXH_9cO5w949HF30sNEpwGLQC05BQjVAxRAtE 7S76sTOe7.4a_i4hxl8.IZET98qPEbfocqA9Gamy2p6kax5vyIhfVQS.bD0Q To_uMLxDPEtccAGlmQfdABkEoEYgkvLb1pBO_4ULXLud6GyrIP8YJZ9dspq. 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Think I saw that float in "Animal House". Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo ________________________________ From: brian To: Spridgets Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:46 AM Subject: [Spridgets] Spot the cool car. I know there are plenty of facebook haters out there, but for the rest of you, check out my Alma Mater's facebook page, and see if you can spot the cool car in situ. It is in the parade float picture. No idea what year the picture was taken. https://www.facebook.com/HumboldtState Brian ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 12:33:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9077C40559 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:33:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm5-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm5-vm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.93]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071F5403F0 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:31:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.168] by nm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2013 18:30:07 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.101] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2013 18:30:07 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.80] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2013 18:30:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2013 18:30:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 89190 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jun 2013 18:30:07 -0000 s=s1024; t=1371839407; bh=pE+yaAZLjhlgPNrRDS4GHn2/VThq2ZUVD6eEuGiShP0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mVfhEzsZDlS87Fm2nJdjWtJKtJ08s59Q4yJSr/g2ETAcU0P+9I0gxieRiMsjKZUMdrihfh5baGc+E5V3OJOJOov2kgJ3+xwn9r7jkjQ4/FzKEf8raTUWEPLyIz8L4TJao9NnekxPdc7jpGJloSfVIc8pEef+2xoEFz3IR9XnGSk= s=s1024; d=snet.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=d8CoYCt947Zdl6rolJg9kb6olEGFa8kdDEzj7E7MqN/yXYFG8ki/w+6Rp8gfy+AJ6AxljbCUDJ0Vph1DUzOr1WWgs1QCzz32IVHwKr5uxmlAKe5Ql8s49JwALUhuw8FdFHXuQiQGUP1vwbltL10fA48wNSy3gXVR7Jtx7okcoqk=; 8qoJKL3rKFIRsZGunYwKCSdI1AzjwxP9vWIhSY_w2Wum84PfIBiAIEfPwu9b QYHyUyMwBdVLiyVijDQTInrKAjhKthU9Qqq.zFLY1jqHbbvhSvXImNwsQ8Qi n9yjNWw4tSFZLjN8GVevUn2rB9hYftsuqQEBv8jVIBPZKemYT8jTZKgyL2sU EeFQDEXPavarJ2sQzJrvgbVQyM0TieMwsmtGsktUmAOJXgx7WoYCC3ImB_AN gKG4iShi_LcxBAe2LnADFahztXP6kpX15wAAmb9oPejbJa4uvkKZ6Qv9hWSk U.x8ze5k56Md1CYRvMk55Ld1Da6505SwiV6J.SGHo1RvzGWL8X.SECxfMpAB uNopCFZWqNo8g6gY7OQyhOYqzW9w7XVuSN5dsH93VFJAdTzrKvySF44wp.PX BfymYnKVvRRXowQDPfmphkdH1exe2z_noP8H3ixetAY_lDUH6OwFsR3WbPZq iIIzDEmoc83JfpmdQ46ay83k5RoDFn0yj0LhaSmObd_xYBDfeZs0EztbMNNb Wu3fEJnZrMTN0qmhEwGO1EvUpyS9YasQ- Received: from [69.0.36.132] by web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:30:07 PDT aHR0cDovL3Rpbnl1cmwuY29tL21wbzh4dWoKCsKgCmpheSBmaXNoYmVpbgp3YWxsaW5nZm9yZCwgY3QKATABAQEB Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 11:30:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Yikes! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net http://tinyurl.com/mpo8xuj jay fishbein wallingford, ct ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 12:50:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D76D4056A for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:50:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from vms173023pub.verizon.net (vms173023pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.23]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DDEB40324 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:50:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.8] ([unknown] [71.175.39.99]) by vms173023.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MOR002CJAX8KZ90@vms173023.mailsrvcs.net> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:48:46 -0500 (CDT) References: <1371839407.61707.YahooMailNeo@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: Phil Nase Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 14:48:46 -0400 To: Jay Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Yikes! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I knew I shouldn't have looked;). Yikes! Phil Nase Applebachsville, PA http://home.comcast.net/~philnasecpa/ p:p8p,p' On Jun 21, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Jay wrote: > http://tinyurl.com/mpo8xuj > > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/nases@verizon.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 12:57:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB6140512 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:57:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7867D403BA for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:57:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FD12A0E6B for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:58:10 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:58:10 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: Spridgets References: <1371839407.61707.YahooMailNeo@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Yikes! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I loved the line about the deposit needed so the winning bidder can't change their mind later. mjb. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 13:09:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC8B40438 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:09:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com (unknown [174.143.201.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347C740042 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:08:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTP id 2FBE2F442E4 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:06:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HcXsWB5eEbTR for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com (75-128-248-175.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com [75.128.248.175]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTPA id 300B8F441FA for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 14:06:20 -0500 To: spridgets@autox.team.net From: Peter Caldwell Subject: [Spridgets] MJB to Wisconsin! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net The cat's out of the bag.... throw your wheel chocks away. The Wizard is leaving the comfortable confines behind his curtain to attend the VSCDA Vintage Fall Festival at Elkhart Lake this September 6-8. http://vscda.org/races/Elvf2013_EventOverview.php He's going to be a part of the Kastner Cup..... a pretty cool T%)(&PH feature race. Heck, he may even be driving! The Fall Festival is always very worthwhile.... one of the best on this continent. Mark's presence will make it.... different(?) Mark, I'm buying you a beer or 3. See you at Siebkins! Peter C. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 13:19:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32F3440548 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:19:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD9240079 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:19:06 -0600 (MDT) a=wcho/ydQa97mDXA78dTScQ==:17 a=ah4-TjS3KtAA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=5RZDEG6lvfYA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=PeZg_VlAAAAA:20 a=ge3w2RE3PV7f6CE4ScwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=FYCeGQjn0c4A:10 a=wcho/ydQa97mDXA78dTScQ==:117 Received: from [72.182.73.185] ([72.182.73.185:55855] helo=AJS) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 37/5C-07405-AC6A4C15; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 19:17:30 +0000 From: "Jim Seippel" To: "'Jay'" , "'Spridgets'" References: <1371839407.61707.YahooMailNeo@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 14:17:25 -0500 Thread-Index: AQFwHmblWKSxcckgT2VFnjgND07bupn9KsxQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Yikes! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net What's really bad is that there are 11 bids. - Jim -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 1:30 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Yikes! http://tinyurl.com/mpo8xuj jay fishbein wallingford, ct ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 13:26:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2927640436 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:26:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm14-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm14-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.162]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE49B4009B for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:26:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.104] by nm14.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2013 19:25:02 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.90] by tm9.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2013 19:25:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1027.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2013 19:25:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 83415 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jun 2013 19:25:02 -0000 s=s1024; t=1371842702; bh=dRZWBYXCLWUKnptm0R7F3gey6GrF9cJOKNbKByD9Wio=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LlsJvBMkdeMV5VefofeScf7bSHLoLWaatF1HfO9EA5E6NOlX3wLIvKIzW2vpJDLW/MMYfIUzp/Vl4bdp7zqJOAlIKIJWJ5Kzio7u2dZOTbKVIrVafvkEWC0URadQMjQ3IunGbad18OhyOWmotWjjlot+ulpEMDafpbf/Lb8uCzs= s=s1024; d=snet.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rvNvJ/knqExOya+NRIicYg5/0nyCUY/tG6E6li6A9Hps+JHw9K4RSeuEqANIW2At+tUuZoJ3em03QT0N5Qfxfsn5JhlAxLEXWLyJiIBuauJgfHuzEfiSc3DrcOKhCDOX0zh3QR2gSOJx4NjPHvByMtN1Ss1bGr7vy+qq7FF2598=; NrKxF7ThHHZcpXqADmSRKHYTv9DaLMW6wcWDElCLbUQNb0Lfzao2cIsorHVE rxZYkcbGi1I_tmqxYMb0P_ZaI.RzZ47Lt5mISM3MyqBugMN4ej3__FchB2N8 Vnfm7T0VfEwqDl.yc8XEHtzkly6HLzCqihJOKyaxb5ZAmVsdjn..P4ChLBu2 UO.G1if1KPrQdEBa6hxHqaWJx8zD3HOUdqQort4ye2OWUYWdBbU4pGCBtDx1 dcXppn.9yyTv06WlkID9DMM5TAN8UN6EZ6hnnQCfujhSR_aumHJdoHa8gzPg HSJfmRLFA_QYNlXzv2PlcHSwq8uUbw4tBbe47qx5Cmebhrwg.hhy_Tj5P_F2 3.zfbzy3WeAa2AN8Hs0hjPcAfC4904aA72cgsGK1HVYKwFI9WRzmmkpEtsQ_ 6Dvat6subrFy6F990rO7ufjSbo.8f277Qwhd6uX0a2DwnEux9dOQhndwKSlY s15Z.4dGPPXJON.wuA2SmO3Xv_Hma07RePxi3WlhbWSYSjejbMg-- Received: from [69.0.36.132] by web181305.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:25:01 PDT QnV0IGNvbnNpZGVyIHRoZSBwb3NpdGl2ZXMsIHRoZSBmaXJzdCBiZWluZyB0aGF0IHRoaXMgaXMgb24gYSBkaWZmZXJlbnQgY29udGluZW50IHRoYW4gb3Vycy4KCk5vdyB0aG9zZSBsaWtlIERhbmllbCwgc2hvdWxkIGJlIHdvcnJpZWQuCgrCoApqYXkgZmlzaGJlaW4Kd2FsbGluZ2ZvcmQsIGN0IFVTQQoKCj5fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwo.IEZyb206IEppbSBTZWlwcGVsIDxhc2VpcHBlbEBhdXN0aW4ucnIuY29tPgo.VG86ICdKYXknIDxqZmlzaGJlaW5Ac25ldC5uZXQ.OyAnU3ABMAEBAQE- References: <1371839407.61707.YahooMailNeo@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <01be01ce6eb3$f6ab0ed0$e4012c70$@austin.rr.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:25:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay To: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Yikes! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net But consider the positives, the first being that this is on a different continent than ours. Now those like Daniel, should be worried. jay fishbein wallingford, ct USA >________________________________ > From: Jim Seippel >To: 'Jay' ; 'Spridgets' >Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 3:17 PM >Subject: RE: [Spridgets] Yikes! > > >What's really bad is that there are 11 bids. - Jim ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 13:27:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55C7C4270C for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:27:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f66.google.com (mail-oa0-f66.google.com [209.85.219.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D56BC400A4 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:27:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f66.google.com with SMTP id g12so4087500oah.9 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:25:57 -0700 (PDT) h=references:from:mime-version:in-reply-to:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=5hVhpsJ2OETpD3ub3Zlbk4ZP8CJ8FVkn6aJPlpKkkno=; b=GKrxwtuEuUbWJOlhDyPfpcT0PQgqlxXUJvHULNrIGluLkqraaayPyqn8Y/x+98qNEB e7BMdw7D9K59+GuPybf/YLGsirKzFBB5VLevAS/WIj2eXHREd9KRRCILSEFjmW4lViVU D66jAOJ/+kbXl1+qVQ+BLrj1tLWZuVzfoF+8w8E3BjfF1fhblvL3df+WEuTT0suFT017 M9PWP9F4sZwaOVi2JIdFmk3C0MSJLPvOqZwXdm3sZeQJh8fnJh9Nw1MVT0wE1Y8KHWaf /YLI+FnBr/6FV5TR1WR33RywlG00VKylhbqhlKKJdVRWT2ivg7Qy2x+Oclk5MqMgDS03 vXbw== hn6mr4180111obb.25.1371842757391; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:25:57 -0700 (PDT) References: <1371839407.61707.YahooMailNeo@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <01be01ce6eb3$f6ab0ed0$e4012c70$@austin.rr.com> From: David Lieb <72spridget@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:25:51 -0400 To: Jim Seippel Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Yikes! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Must be shills! David L On Jun 21, 2013, at 15:18, Jim Seippel wrote: > What's really bad is that there are 11 bids. - Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 1:30 PM > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] Yikes! > > http://tinyurl.com/mpo8xuj > > jay fishbein > wallingford, ct > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/72spridget@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 13:42:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB3B40324 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:42:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm9-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm9-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA0ED40079 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:42:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2013 19:40:57 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.160] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2013 19:40:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2013 19:40:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 5696 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jun 2013 19:40:57 -0000 s=s1024; t=1371843656; bh=cnei9Jum1Y6FSRPXiqPXEysaImVZ7bT9A29Eobah1iE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BEzrOFHEdln+7F4TxJ4YMVou8IHIlDht5d6CUhg8Nh9qur2Yzp940gwklO/2k57CAWZZnUxf3ymhJ4jm4e3s8XVmX+OEyguS/kpwwx794CMquL2Cmy36ngkcXWNgWtWI+ORv97h40idvejbIpszczAuhlMWpcbcdipli04ROaKw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3AVY5oxo9qLu5/WqhVfjKM9zkQl7l0NQNs5jv3SmSD/SzuvU3tAngObgeeMUte4IyWClxRU4OFj5iaprbsfKIZjg0aUKDmb3CD8rigRtjb6wpNGz2jEtkZjJ2CYMJvurr0F5Kyo78gpTmlXxW102LYMv8jlia2fZvHisrlk0JHo=; IFdINhDnnIMrjJFYpq.EOnY2rR8Tx3xgHxPy5N5X9ttrnUdK49ipM5mZLzVu .7f4H3r6Qi2H1FpxzWr_jCzyCZxUm_W9.PH4S0ChOTqLjQds1Za_fx.E.tRX VYtqHB5Kog3TgF82juOgSvsy84pmu.9p1P4EwDlMLV98uGiVdo7zkncEmY7. 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net If only all the work that was put into that thing was dedicated to good rather than evil. Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo ________________________________ From: Jay To: Spridgets Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 2:30 PM Subject: [Spridgets] Yikes! http://tinyurl.com/mpo8xuj jay fishbein wallingford, ct ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 13:50:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE14940E52 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:50:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com (mx2.netinteraction.com [174.143.201.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE5E9403EC for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:49:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTP id ACD0DF442F9; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:47:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dwiX5Al1yHcR; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com (75-128-248-175.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com [75.128.248.175]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTPA id 47DFEF442F6; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 12:47:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 14:47:52 -0500 To: HealeyRick ,Jay , Spridgets From: Peter Caldwell > References: <1371839407.61707.YahooMailNeo@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1371843656.92243.YahooMailNeo@web124704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Yikes! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Is that a quote from Frankenstein? Peter C At 02:40 PM 6/21/2013, HealeyRick wrote: >If only all the work that was put into that thing was dedicated to good rather >than evil. > > > >Rick ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 15:00:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EB94044C for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:00:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB54403ED for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:00:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BD8A0E6B for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:01:28 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:01:28 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <20130621190628.2FBE2F442E4@mx2.netinteraction.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MJB to Wisconsin! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Peter Caldwell wrote: > The cat's out of the bag.... throw your wheel chocks away. > > The Wizard is leaving the comfortable confines behind his curtain to > attend the VSCDA Vintage Fall Festival at Elkhart Lake this September > 6-8. Well, nothing has been forged in unobtainium yet. I have a history of something happening to keep me away from Kastner Kup events. But I am really working on getting to this one. Last time I was at Elkhart Lake I was towing the Killer Spit, then drove down to Indianapolis then back up through Wisconsin to the VTR convention. Put a lot of miles on the tow rig that trip! This year, probably just flying in. mjb. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 15:23:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FAD840559 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:23:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB1C400A5 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:18:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id BA2A4700000A1; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:17:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-doc005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-doc005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.160.209]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 69260E000082; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:17:17 -0400 (EDT) From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:17:17 -0400 (EDT) To: jfishbein@snet.net, spridgets@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1371849437; bh=emCHWvXjsospoIUNfppDQY4VPkBDWsEZF4Ssmp3MuY4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=F4jIXClYm2eIJXvKh7Kk1NMug+yIho0uJzNRFTJdj9T9IGPg/G03yu6DKm4zJZo6H BA6ppkdRkb8UGuN6Cx1KeECRzugGfN3pQMH7an/r8wCslp/HgXT6DazEHRUmeETz/q yAxynX174uLvut+skRIEpQGQ2OjzhQGqNLRWcZvg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c51c4c2dd75aa Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Yikes! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net A restorable Frogeye will fetch more than the current price - maybe #3000 tops. In a message dated 21/06/2013 20:25:08 GMT Daylight Time, jfishbein@snet.net writes: But consider the positives, the first being that this is on a different continent than ours. Now those like Daniel, should be worried. jay fishbein wallingford, ct USA ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 15:45:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AD914044C for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:45:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com (mx2.netinteraction.com [174.143.201.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAF040324 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:44:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTP id B3E9BF441E4; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 14:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx2.netinteraction.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx2.netinteraction.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id pFGhAkDknazc; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 14:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com (75-128-248-175.dhcp.mdsn.wi.charter.com [75.128.248.175]) by mx2.netinteraction.com (iRedMail) with ESMTPA id 0D885F441CA; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 14:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:43:14 -0500 To: Mark J Bradakis ,spridgets@autox.team.net From: Peter Caldwell References: <20130621190628.2FBE2F442E4@mx2.netinteraction.com> <51C4BF28.8030608@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] MJB to Wisconsin! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Well... that's OK. If you get tired of the whine and cheese at the Triumph tent, the Spridget racers will have beer and brats....and you are welcome. (though I may be speaking out of line, as I don't drive) Peter C = At 04:01 PM 6/21/2013, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >Peter Caldwell wrote: >>The cat's out of the bag.... throw your wheel chocks away. >> >>The Wizard is leaving the comfortable confines behind his curtain >>to attend the VSCDA Vintage Fall Festival at Elkhart Lake this September 6-8. > >Well, nothing has been forged in unobtainium yet. I have a history >of something happening >to keep me away from Kastner Kup events. But I am really working on >getting to this one. >Last time I was at Elkhart Lake I was towing the Killer Spit, then >drove down to Indianapolis >then back up through Wisconsin to the VTR convention. Put a lot of >miles on the tow rig >that trip! > >This year, probably just flying in. > >mjb. >------------------------ > >spridgets@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/peter@nosimport.com > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2013.0.3345 / Virus Database: 3199/6429 - Release Date: 06/21/13 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 16:12:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C22EC40559 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:12:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F0EA403ED for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:12:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 25933 invoked by uid 0); 21 Jun 2013 22:11:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy6.bluehost.com with SMTP; 21 Jun 2013 22:11:01 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=EuQFBNRq9m/n9Ks1WYeongm8i89iqI0sgnHcetAEyGI=; b=Uv4zjlAqgYsdRAMq5a3EBBtRcvZyAqHknQoFJcN/KHoHrRG27UYSng5CxzItgzNhLe+2lUvjefeTtOTRWrvF7nf4wsJSHREK2wLDLrjq7ve5uVrobXGaFq8mN5Gsgrhe; Received: from [24.15.13.164] (port=37672 helo=[192.168.0.106]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Uq9Xp-00008i-3P for spridgets@autox.team.net; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:11:01 -0600 Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:11:00 -0500 From: "\" Just Brits \" Shop" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <1371839407.61707.YahooMailNeo@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <6F34AC74-B073-464C-82F8-72B106E509FC@verizon.net> {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with sales@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Yikes! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net << On 6/21/2013 1:48 PM, Phil Nase wrote: I knew I shouldn't have looked;). Yikes! >> Phil, I "hate" to 'correct' you but IMNSHO the 'word(s)' you were/are seeking would/should be is: Fug Ugly ! ! ! ! ! ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 16:18:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0825B40559 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:18:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63A2A4035A for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:18:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.101.132] by nm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2013 22:17:01 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.6] by tm20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2013 22:17:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2013 22:17:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 49512 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jun 2013 22:17:01 -0000 s=s1024; t=1371853021; bh=9dpeKWLIJNO0rjRr+7ycZLw/djGXJBTxHxfan3lk8aY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IGVtkjYVjkeSMI1jXhgXTwMEN2OHO1BJ6KvRGTn1EvxRc/edMBqlDPvRs1BaIZBH0e2PLfZD0QtedMNhJ+Zcv7O9YCGLVtUDvHSb3TqWl4/R2Vfr3ArdY+ehPzV3LaijrSIJ0wYBTV4zFhQxxGFN9kBYrwllKF/ud53o9tboIxw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bR5QgP2Jeb8Md0J657GR3nVMzPAgxFo55pIG4/d6qAEcDTMFT9Fn1UAp+oObQGz9eDlvjHV6kVViPvsnTFzO9LokmGViHcSeTgl9EprsN69fMq45lkNI69qq76L6Cvxq/rhShngwYFByP2RyqmCYwwbgiUk6t3e+enoyiMumW8E=; 4QpsvPZvr9Twip3d6ZwOJRZTnd6SuQhsjIAK2Qyij3Ab4rGUS1fseMU_l0G6 7r7eifBSBasoXu59iutFferc9WlckVdjPf2b3Cg.dEflaB1_GFPg5mwqFyGu UWmr27yCG9Pxnv1i9d0dOhL1whkaask0g24vGjV_.ZqJn.TnuxfqRYbGRBcl 8qBwcYZdGyy.Bneg.2WSSiJED_sOw4tflevT6tPTtsdEp.7hDSeu_dJBAVFj Kwkx_TWl8ZS0CQ.lz_lHZ8LqW9.lfZjTNcZvxb1QIHdSAtxog1i_CdZ5tyOZ dHJXoPl.sEmCfH7RrMVJpol1K53avXoxweY6A1cZLifgJbP0kCDIGHXNAsmS 5GDAUu02FaX76SmwHcnnUrJ85.gV2Xy7Az.HtWuGSdTN7L2L.cJskiTCYwkQ jsVhYRkenKUfMBJnoRhrxb4QWWa9hlLWm_e_V4CCymdNCYmfKKZNOd96PoMm P4DbejCFyk0ownkITM3uRzprXJ2sw90K1TbAsOifK.9GFSYQjTfdBa79No6j YyxoGzBhw_CuE2IdzX_VHjirNj4Gq6AHSCLX7SF5D4C.MfeBIiaKH0w0.bAN .KFZJE3eIE9tjJJ0fhPuxuDfGVwLddUo_49.xvZmWTH4ZIGPommAko9Mg12S q_HTe Received: from [98.216.127.124] by web124706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:17:01 PDT QSBCdWdleWUgYW5kIERhaW1sZXIgRGFydCB3YWxrIGludG8gYSBiYXIgLi4uCgpvciBmb3IgRGFuaWVsOgoKQSBGcm9nZXllIGFuZCBhbiBTUCAyNTAgd2FsayBpbnRvIGEgYmFyCgpOb3cgdGhhdCBJIHRoaW5rIGFib3V0IGl0LCB0aGlzIGNhciBpcyBwdXJlIGdlbml1cy7CoCBXaGF0IG1hbnkgKG5vdCBhbnkgb2YgdXMsIGhvd2V2ZXIpIHRoaW5rIG9mIHRoZSBtb3N0IHVuZ2Fpbmx5IGZyb250IGVuZCBvZiBhIEJyaXRpc2ggc3BvcnRzIGNhciBjb21iaW5lZCB3aXRoIHRoZSB1Z2xpZXN0IGJhY2sgZW5kLgoBMAEBAQE- References: <1371839407.61707.YahooMailNeo@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <6F34AC74-B073-464C-82F8-72B106E509FC@verizon.net> <51C4CF74.60503@justbrits.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:17:01 -0700 (PDT) From: HealeyRick To: "\" Just Brits \" Shop" , "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Yikes! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net A Bugeye and Daimler Dart walk into a bar ... or for Daniel: A Frogeye and an SP 250 walk into a bar Now that I think about it, this car is pure genius. What many (not any of us, however) think of the most ungainly front end of a British sports car combined with the ugliest back end. Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo ________________________________ From: "" Just Brits " Shop" To: spridgets@autox.team.net Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Yikes! << On 6/21/2013 1:48 PM, Phil Nase wrote: I knew I shouldn't have looked;). Yikes! >> Phil, I "hate" to 'correct' you but IMNSHO the 'word(s)' you were/are seeking would/should be is: Fug Ugly ! ! ! ! ! ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/healeyrick@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 16:24:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA32B4056E for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:24:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.186]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD8114035A for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:22:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm26.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2013 22:20:33 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.160] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2013 22:20:33 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1071.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2013 22:20:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 35884 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jun 2013 22:20:33 -0000 s=s1024; t=1371853233; bh=5BDMS3RLuvtYHwEQAbWwy1w1EtRo9QTtGs0KMD3UMVM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qqQPhQxHYTF4wvUCCgaNPNIbutHGgXCaqMc5Bm+LZGUrEN2X3kBNtFX6ITwixoYe/C8Ua/cY6r7SinV8afF/vP5gdYW9C7vVZ9dgwOjlqF0fj7wccJ15ezTAERVk/MObiWLupWuS0g+ERQiuFbpvguH1GKKDrn5HeiVFSKrXC6Q= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wDN1CEED4tNh/Y7gU6MUpqGqCJUzypalV1jXBsbNy4U519ZsE94z3qQN4BPCsQ19OJ3TyAgquAkrvVe7y6eqRsRquYg5ZU6M11lDXNZy8k0FoxeNEJjpSGxz5q9KTky7MmQg7GZlpwbZLyhqVbCSzLLczqm3pjPqpux9fmPs+QM=; bG3ELDqwNyaT6DJrD33gw Received: from [98.216.127.124] by web124705.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:20:32 PDT QW5kIEkgdGhvdWdodCB0aGlzIGJpZyBIZWFsZXkgZ3V5IGhhZCB0aGUgbWFya2V0IGNvcm5lcmVkOgoKaHR0cDovL3d3dy5icml0aXNoY2FyZm9ydW0uY29tL2JjZi9zaG93dGhyZWFkLnBocD83OTQ3MS1NeS1OZXh0LU1vZGlmaWVkCgrCoApSaWNrCgoKIk1hZG1hbiBpbiBhIGRlYXRoIG1hY2hpbmUiCkZvbGxvdyBNeSBOYXN0eSBCb3kgQnVpbGQ6ICBodHRwOi8vdGlueXVybC5jb20veWo1MmZ3bwoKCl9fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fATABAQEB References: <1371839407.61707.YahooMailNeo@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <6F34AC74-B073-464C-82F8-72B106E509FC@verizon.net> <51C4CF74.60503@justbrits.com> <1371853021.47033.YahooMailNeo@web124706.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 15:20:32 -0700 (PDT) From: HealeyRick To: HealeyRick , "Just Brits \" Shop" , "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Yikes! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net And I thought this big Healey guy had the market cornered: http://www.britishcarforum.com/bcf/showthread.php?79471-My-Next-Modified Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo ________________________________ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 17:15:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3FBA4042A for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:15:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDAFC4035A for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:14:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.195]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1363E70000083; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 19:13:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [166.182.66.15]) by mtaout-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 3185FE000091; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 19:13:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 18:13:07 -0500 From: Tmheffron To: Mark J Bradakis , Spridgets x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1371856382; bh=IPJFloE/KfjiZFKRP5A08OwgO6swuCB2rbMLXdO+eZM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AYDS+bhG8W6iigKNJ1QOIY9Q44e/qWN5LTAISbjAvIl8OuzzQqNFZxzROgUeBFwBa +uJGr4jrNGITYv5uuBDkanuBQGtr3YoKCPh1QkPYwsAEhIX9wSXWW6+JHrm6ikmVnh YYr6fxyb1fd9E/cxb4eQippVDArGsKiFUi8P0lDI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c351c4ddfc1d18 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Yikes! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, when they sober up. Mark J Bradakis wrote: >I loved the line about the deposit needed so the winning bidder can't change >their mind later. > >mjb. >------------------------ > >spridgets@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tmheffron@aol.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 17:30:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71303426C3 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:30:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm18-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0ED64035A for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:30:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.171] by nm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2013 23:28:50 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.239] by tm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2013 23:28:50 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1048.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jun 2013 23:28:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 81458 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jun 2013 23:28:50 -0000 s=s1024; t=1371857330; bh=BBYftuzEfsn4TCi9FFJNdWf/i/K1Mm5R6PROSox2yf8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UZWG9Niw1piehYqyRZQSCwE+k/piIuZEUEICvbbPVnOYy+MPUkoLANqNb0AVpOrn65XauUWFygb4uCKQKWFNH3uyilBHlZPvRXIBNzfL6gMEh/lO4kjVH1a2qEPdMz6Uc1VXHzTOPm7OfMv6P1oIHfzjokLnXBPQUsYvOqoFzRo= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lTAuufYK3J8dAI2fYbtP/ox0dS+nZcm7rajdlQjzguJKWfIIxF33wOQoqEQkDVUsQjeMYTyulhLPB5t4YjpGm4nxIRKw4K510Gr637afql8W2O1yoz90IOQWbHshPHW5K79xq8xzYY+EZEi3d5r1yb/lSSRLSxVZv0rWWM/2+Ys=; ZIGXPIXdkZ7F6F9VuO9FzkcmVs.VvVhiTTckSx8.y3Wn.ov.2UxXFO9dsYLW TOZ1AmA9uloUUOWIBFlf5vsQc2eiMchbZ8XU4SZ35TRFg_3K1lelrzQ6Yn2k y5Aeh5dgRS0bFRhs_17avBilmz3gRqH1j6Yv2BPbDttoHtAm_YsP6DAipmWo lFiOHuK8FM63moj76LSSdST4Gyt8hAEJwUZTtk1uNy0AjixwTi3I4MlnM0D2 6pKW0gb7BdlSyuZgLSi93TCUNRJcLP8mdnCnFvQypadKd5PKcT.uYYu0nHrj 7y1s8e4mmCutxFPT1sBhKeHFFgwS2eEQY.iTdg4gQ.ycSzELQ.vWCjMY7k6S 1MBbdG6gLzqIOUhJbi4ju0iVAKxZBcQ3DbE8V3apeDm1bfEzn01Sr9dNXANh N85ZRW9kgdg2cvT0njfmRBv5gf36AOrsmpZdM5H27o.ZMCAHr_ZPHZvsCgcK ezFwEpQrHzEaCP8OTrRfjOMBoFBtpAdRfwfcQUA-- Received: from [173.68.115.106] by web141404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:28:49 PDT SSBoYXZlIGEgZnJpZW5kIGhlcmUgb24gTG9uZyBJc2xhbmQgd2hvIGhhcyB0aGUgYmFjayBoYWxmIG9mIGEgJzcyIEIgdGhhdCB3b3VsZCBiZSBwZXJmZWN0IHRvIG1ha2UgYSB0cmFpbGVyIGZyb20uIEl0IGlzIHJ1c3QtZnJlZSBhbmQgY29tcGxldGUgKFllYWgsIEkgcmVhbGl6ZSB0aGF0IGEgY29tcGxldGUgaGFsZiBpcyBraW5kIG9mIGFuIG94eW1vcm9uKS4gQW55d2F5IC0gYnVtcGVyLCB0YWlsIGxpZ2h0cywgYm9vdCBsaWQsIHNwcmluZ3MsIGF4bGUsIGV0Yy4gWW91J2xsIGp1c3QgbmVlZCB0byBjYXABMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 16:28:49 -0700 (PDT) From: David Booker To: spridget Subject: [Spridgets] Anybody want a B trailer? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I have a friend here on Long Island who has the back half of a '72 B that would be perfect to make a trailer from. It is rust-free and complete (Yeah, I realize that a complete half is kind of an oxymoron). Anyway - bumper, tail lights, boot lid, springs, axle, etc. You'll just need to cap off the front somehow and add a tongue. Needs a paint job, but that goes without saying since you'd be creating some sort of a nose for it. Hmmm, anybody got a chrome-bumper front? Friend wants $200. Probably has close to that much in parts all mounted up to it. Call me for details if you're interested. NFI, blah, blah, etc. - David ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 21:16:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD5B40690 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 21:16:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f49.google.com (mail-la0-f49.google.com [209.85.215.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E1B40324 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 21:13:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f49.google.com with SMTP id ea20so8020694lab.8 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 20:11:48 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=LaEV+zrqfnkiIzZZb5TZekx9DEuVnKHAk2PSpPOZoq0=; b=CtFzHUOzLmdjh64njPHhbnJsUew24QL2ezSsNQTVDeZyYf4p5R8eQxvMP06+Jc4NkE 1rme2gQWluHTOvedREkyM2q2Ebrr2P7Vt+H+VlTYi7MqKhyVhhrBMP/JAx3j415w/ZC9 o99PgoZ6ho/SNXW43VKdF+uI+GxcZCx7MSUnyIce/lhfGWAN2afq/S4HudzOZClBXTfV sfwL8yk5pVFVNBMwXb0dRhVBr9NNPveEMaWquvE27p6zy7XWyB7Fv7S+AaH0pTzCHibv J6YwoLyqjeRlaIQR1FSCJb2cnbQLSZCrKyLk8JLX9AXaER5k5YevU/wIZyM0leivUa57 rn5A== c2mr7063586lah.45.1371870707974; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 20:11:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.133.239 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 20:11:47 -0700 (PDT) References: <78ge28nmuh98sbxire56ea82.1371856387628@email.android.com> Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 20:11:47 -0700 From: Hal Faulkner To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Yikes! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net All that, plus it is the rarest of Frogeyes, a '62 with the 9 button windscreen! Hal On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Tmheffron wrote: > Yes, when they sober up. > > Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > >I loved the line about the deposit needed so the winning bidder can't > change > >their mind later. > > > >mjb. > >------------------------ > > > >spridgets@autox.team.net > > > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/tmheffron@aol.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/frog.aye@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 21 23:56:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2813340690 for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 23:56:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EDAC4032C for ; Fri, 21 Jun 2013 23:56:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.27]) by QMTA11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id rHuU1l0010bG4ec5BHuh2s; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 05:54:41 +0000 Received: from Thinkpad ([69.253.143.59]) by omta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id rHuh1l00C1H6MAV3PHuhcV; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 05:54:41 +0000 From: "Dean Hedin" To: "'Jay'" , "'Spridgets'" References: <1371839407.61707.YahooMailNeo@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 01:55:00 -0400 thread-index: Ac5urYnDUXwGU5eiSmeLz26MSxK/TQAXp+1Q s=q20121106; t=1371880481; bh=xu2YPVIVGP81N4e4u1vDxhS+9dLi0ptP+A38tKn2gLU=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=shrRvWXW87Uv5ZRFnN2C4L6/83hWs8uOLDdjXHWPZ5iIhx3c0frI2P2VVcUs/kozQ 91VYyzfiJbSJv0CGHqyFaMl66gOuZw2V9hEB5Nw0xLzb4IMiMfqgvn/pkopLfaGmul +C+doyZuxqIKqNhBUr9X8fEYwlJTaYDGvxdGcHLmS9lrfIAetyMNmIX8bIlDea0i23 EYOZQfITvaN4E/OZWMj+5RYcEY2Jz0Y6DiPt45aIKoYUX2/vphUPDFBzo+umHJXqCI 7Q8OpWjAkwQFAt/M/289I4LoDeu4kfR2JiNDG5AjnmhvoNWaEISygl9EaAY1oobXrF LkflF0ZkZAZ1A== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Yikes! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net The sad part is that, prior to it's transformation, it was one of the long lost Sebring cars. -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 2:30 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Yikes! http://tinyurl.com/mpo8xuj ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 22 08:15:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D73740406 for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:15:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m06.mx.aol.com (omr-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 798AA4035A for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 08:12:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by omr-m06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4DD5470000098; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:10:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-doa002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-doa002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.211.5]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 274ADE000085; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:10:25 -0400 (EDT) From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:10:25 -0400 (EDT) To: healeyrick@yahoo.com, shop@justbrits.com, spridgets@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1371910225; bh=Mj7agkyUQfSDQyyO03LKTeJVmdXrXXsi5gPS5sFCe9c=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vU5zq9FljYsVsS2W2gCqwbsqvKMgkC3cTeGPXntn77wWt77ZHcbzklNNyHAsmM5iP 9ILdE4GGOXmh1B7azken3j/DaOYe2uYivSCXmFuHzsumwtpIf2VnEd29pxGbFQvJal bbFwXzALIH+nUIX0NXD9Z+IFAwZAy4raKdL9qIgA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290851c5b05112f8 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Yikes! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net The rear end is Ford Anglia! In a message dated 21/06/2013 23:17:07 GMT Daylight Time, healeyrick@yahoo.com writes: A Bugeye and Daimler Dart walk into a bar ... or for Daniel: A Frogeye and an SP 250 walk into a bar Now that I think about it, this car is pure genius. What many (not any of us, however) think of the most ungainly front end of a British sports car combined with the ugliest back end. Rick "Madman in a death machine" Follow My Nasty Boy Build: http://tinyurl.com/yj52fwo ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 22 10:56:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 435144041B for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:56:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com (oproxy6-pub.bluehost.com [67.222.54.6]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3AAB14032B for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:56:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 15706 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jun 2013 16:54:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy6.bluehost.com with SMTP; 22 Jun 2013 16:54:26 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=2ywBv2DYot9m+74GZ7roQgOrUb1HyJ6g0D1hvzh/Tdg=; b=F1LgP+p8ezgqwNptBMY/cYAzG2SEq3HPyoGO7T59noDyM7aAM/C/aRBpQbbtjzOeJxy7Gjuhlemch6mGSyP2/Q9+k78aiRm/6vLrsI0wlO0/jzuV3viUdkkuLEz09/8E; Received: from [24.15.13.164] (port=37553 helo=[192.168.0.106]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UqR50-0004iy-Gs for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:54:26 -0600 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 11:54:25 -0500 From: "\" Just Brits \" Shop" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <000101ce6a0f$ba87d1c0$2f977540$@austin.rr.com> <63F6C75408F04C3AA0C85B99A9B5242E@Home> <6DB38C34DCE74054A40DD2DE26BF4AE8@blackbox2> {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with sales@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Horn contact question, 62 Sprite "Pinky". Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net << On 6/17/2013 7:59 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: Or you can put your original horn safely away (as they are quite rare) and intall one of these... >> Those are dynamite finds, Dean ! ! Makes your advise above quite astute IMNSHO ! ! ! I know I would follow it if I still had mt Bugeye (or would on one 'someday') ! ! TNX ! Me PS: Afterthought ! Mind if I post on a couple other Lists ?? ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 22 10:59:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85FFC403EA for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:59:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from oproxy14-pub.unifiedlayer.com (oproxy14-pub.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.51.224]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B93CD4032B for ; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:59:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 17187 invoked by uid 0); 22 Jun 2013 16:58:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO box609.bluehost.com) (70.40.220.109) by oproxy14.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 22 Jun 2013 16:58:14 -0000 d=justbrits.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:MIME-Version:From:Date:Message-ID; bh=5GER3eKFeRg1RalMeCaxcLXiN6ETGu2Io8HmfyLb7gQ=; b=nGYNj+IEUN4uaHRCgVn1YBUCMjKWDlCeZZPOM6UdgoC6lGousjBITlQjbK9Xa/HHHiYmoUGq5Uvsx+qkTidAM78i3z3B1WYcBP8EtKQ2qHGsHSQJkt1cSMA4HsEIaiH9; Received: from [24.15.13.164] (port=37566 helo=[192.168.0.106]) by box609.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UqR8g-0001lO-Gi for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:58:14 -0600 Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 11:58:13 -0500 From: "\" Just Brits \" Shop" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <1371839407.61707.YahooMailNeo@web181303.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1371843656.92243.YahooMailNeo@web124704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> {sentby:smtp auth 24.15.13.164 authed with sales@justbrits.com} Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Yikes! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net << On 6/21/2013 2:40 PM, HealeyRick wrote: If only all the work that was put into that thing was dedicated to good rather than evil. >> GOSPEL, Rick ! As "Fug UGLY" as it is (my eyes STILL hurt) there is some true talent exhibited ! ! Ed ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 14:58:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EBF34044B for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 14:58:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm24.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm24.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.87]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC3B40427 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 14:57:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm24.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jun 2013 20:56:01 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.244] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jun 2013 20:56:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1058.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jun 2013 20:56:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 12911 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jun 2013 20:56:00 -0000 s=s1024; t=1372107360; bh=pTnBVYBZVvVRrzKztyIl/Tyw5gxaOTmPeBAD7DFpFfY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=k12E06up16QhTUCmX9Tnqt44SEWXDyrcnYvFylQDNF9pjGwAaiF8usJS+XpYb+UpP0mZ0/FCFRaiE29m7ELY4y2lkbqzWBDquKqaqL14BiEj+26ENLQ+7ULfijNhS8oHT22jhveHHHjRlR3/MHz8lV7gHuGjmthsWXtSuxrx3uY= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LI3WfC/TIl+tKWKOJo1ZnMZa6ntqBEnPKB5xLlMWWrSKGXxghOptOSMYrgfMO1H4hWv0vyihQ7Wru/2lWeRKnNGb1OizLC+LL/rfBitgkZy/JVUzFbqd4xd0xDOsuVRTHWBusxsze97De1pm1+rfrIjl+dcrWHtBovRLM8EyMwM=; 6vB9tqdReu6DhtDgRIY3XpfBSDLr9ga0HgNg1SkncdV_mxgjD8fHz9.RuxJF 74e.rbImM4hdTFKyF0iLBFmzgbSObu_TDUVtKis50aE4r5h7S_H9tJkeHQHL PDeTaGpTr5gyaSzykfgnYyhDKg20mp7jPVUbgrJP9PQaClC.Q6eBByqVa5iG SNIIHE9wsG82PzJ2bxfkl7Grskh0SGt_6KHTEINljDbg_117FkMR3fJfLbKm UhgwWfWSoZukYJYdURHcCAlTEhnLOQthIHdcIPwjqfh0yCrkVWP8ZiXK37dv xbU2osUmaPAjnKimH6LzMKD6WiTE9GZPNE56tjv.L.u0AVwBxK1FpfKIp5BY z3UPcXfc9O6efC6ErZwYM63p4Co.dKhMXSl9MqYwu64VWc02oQD85lZ_NY17 oAjcVHNLrpuXATyjpfVxcIufn.sYlDKCCN3cdjkfzV5g3vAUG9BiyYwQOpSP .6jN6JbIyt00JHn2j91ZhRZwKLLRp_yXL5tKBrO0_S5ycGzkdcRvyl1BnQuX nB30KubknnN5kyPopb.ZwuyNIoBfAadHlx6PKFSqJi90TW64XfxvrfZv3.fB VuVLvHwY9kKsMuuyWcRMMyhQlC5g7t8Gp0x8u0maWT67K2Jk7vB4X_f11H_1 5OYyBpda9pL1gFckuCGTyk14RjbtFZ.c- Received: from [173.161.75.221] by web122102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:56:00 PDT SSB0aGluayB0aGVyZSBhcmUgMiAtIHRoZSBvbmUgbmV4dCB0byB0aGUgVC1CaXJkIGxvb2tzIFNwcmlkZ2V0eSB0b28uCsKgClJvbiBTb2F2ZQpSb3Njb2UsIElMCgoKIkl0IG9ubHkgZ29lcyBvbmUgd2F5LiIKIlBheSBpdCBmb3J3YXJkLiIKCgo.X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KPiBGcm9tOiBicmlhbiA8ZGFyZWRlbHZpc0BnbWFpbC5jb20.Cj5UbzogU3ByaWRnZXRzIDxzcHJpZGdldHNAYXV0b3gudGVhbS5uZXQ.IAo.U2VudDogVGh1cnNkYXksIEp1bmUgMjAsIDIwMTMgMTA6NDYBMAEBAQE- References: Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:56:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Ron Soave To: brian , Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spot the cool car. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I think there are 2 - the one next to the T-Bird looks Spridgety too. Ron Soave Roscoe, IL "It only goes one way." "Pay it forward." >________________________________ > From: brian >To: Spridgets >Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:46 AM >Subject: [Spridgets] Spot the cool car. > > >I know there are plenty of facebook haters out there, but for the rest of >you, check out my Alma Mater's facebook page, and see if you can spot the >cool car in situ. It is in the parade float picture. No idea what year >the picture was taken. > >https://www.facebook.com/HumboldtState > >Brian >------------------------ > >spridgets@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 15:17:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F9EE40515 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:17:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com (mail-ie0-f172.google.com [209.85.223.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252F240427 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:17:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id 16so26229344iea.31 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 14:15:27 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=vmT4WKUq7vuzfa8SV1HxjtwJ43AQSlExgpJn+J7ymw4=; b=wYMaMNADxd6btT7vZynqrunKQtora0Yl68+N0QT3C4GaVnuoxLoxTHVRasmCgs8rtf DT3fplyKOsWp+O0WWz+YND7YrXOW0JuucAuQDdiJdZl+IiA21yx88UAfdE6MawyWGMpr VJcGvrkzhTRtDcMeTejhHSHJYxV77cdDK+wdUB21h4Y0LoCahmNkFI+q1Itibu3Tszyv AocwMONogRrZm5JDymooh6XwqBIlujCBTYIpN2dSaH6niO5TUEs1AEQDrBVW8wx9lfrV St4ihgYT3qwbzARAm7w0rUMEAmp89H0VQm+Vg0UE0c2O788CavphfRMJrnWFypkQH58U v/vg== ih8mr6850469igb.28.1372108527517; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 14:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.25.163 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 14:15:27 -0700 (PDT) References: <1372107360.12468.YahooMailNeo@web122102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:15:27 -0500 From: Jim Johnson To: Ron Soave Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spot the cool car. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Yup. Looks like a square body for sure... Chrome bumper and all. Cheers!! Jim On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > I think there are 2 - the one next to the T-Bird looks Spridgety too. > > Ron > Soave > Roscoe, IL > > > "It only goes one way." > "Pay it forward." > >________________________________ > > From: brian > >To: > Spridgets > >Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:46 AM > >Subject: [Spridgets] Spot the cool car. > > > > > >I know there are plenty of > facebook haters out there, but for the rest of > >you, check out my Alma Mater's > facebook page, and see if you can spot the > >cool car in situ. It is in the > parade float picture. No idea what year > >the picture was taken. > > > >https://www.facebook.com/HumboldtState > > > >Brian > >------------------------ > > > >spridgets@autox.team.net > > > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero@yahoo.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman@gmail.com > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson Sprite-Midget Club USA High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology Dodge City 300 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 19:46:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEBD140515 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:46:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A19EC4043F for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:46:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta005.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r5P1hIvE004626 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 18:44:35 -0700 Received: by dm0220.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d0476621) id dm0220.51bf3f80.13cbdd for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 18:44:34 -0700 From: "Bud Osbourne" To: "Spridgets" Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:44:32 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5xRYpeRgv2Km5eSfSMnTqEB8DfZA== Content-Language: en-us engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-06-25_01:2013-06-24,2013-06-25,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1306240280 Subject: [Spridgets] anyone ever hear of a factory Mk I Sprite, w/boot/trunk lid? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net At a local trolley museum anniversary celebration (50 years), yesterday. The museum had a classic car display and asked our local Triumph club to get some cars out. Yeah, mine was the only MG there, but that's fine, too. Anyway, there was a guy there with a Mk I Sprite, which was fitted with a boot/trunk lid. He says he's the second owner and the original owner was a good friend of his. He claims the he was told (he really didn't know much about Brit cars and didn't claim to, either) that his car is one of six Sprites built with boot/trunk lids. Anyone ever hear of the factory doing anything like this? I thought it could possibly have been some sort of prototype/design study done late in the Mk I production run, when BMC was looking for ways to "freshen" the design, to compete against the soon to be introduced Spitfire. Thoughts? And, no, unfortunately, I didn't have my camera along with me. Thanks, guys. Bud ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 19:54:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB2540510 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:54:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A86440043 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:54:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.52] by nm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2013 01:52:17 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.45] by tm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2013 01:52:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp113.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2013 01:52:17 -0000 s=s1024; t=1372125137; bh=hiCbd9ypjuR18wsynnlUiXi43BFAbGSLnnyYLWNr23c=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=X1kOQ97cXfEfXWi1/tBzxFS/xlLz7k1hPk2N2llwH0/w73z9qAE6o8YTGh805lY4qbE9shI2rr9N5aRrtZZN90O9I9M9ujJ6oNjQOk63A8ulDt7TwlipcQsItK1awut/tapKbMqdZu+nLof3KzmDkGtHSThmI7KmZ5yOIyO8Qq8= KlZgLpUk5WvLnp1vpdVs4XvSXimPkdBXD1U6gdKsWbHfKbjqNgv9YHJWPYOy ps7hRpbKS_B9VRdP9j_6x_UwWtOF0M5cK92EpYu9mFror6XcVyu2eVjjfbJl XeUeWZSdoNmzVTl90YqeMJj3.l1_PsHKDtnraIG8mbj959_baFVYjSl8VWdp 43BumDE7X.NtXCtVcoNDkSQYWxCaL.MFDLE.hgJh4GGxsYQyu7b1IK80GyS3 zV4Nvk_uhkXv20bgEKLm57o8ndTY60UHuxY5KVTK8znQbATGEQk5GQMlHD4N JmiSTL5f4kzpOoN8bIyWH9fH7Y5nu7yQXr4AJOqexc.jCxM1m5uSxq7GehJn JNynJeL76fMQ7vAiJEflY780gif_Vv.OcSdudyiWMQo_D4S788t_eXGLrIAf CTz.DMnMhL.sVrNA79LpvYGCUf86WJJRXsLHMHfVy90PcQ1JIvhJZVmU6C85 E smtp113.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Jun 2013 18:52:17 -0700 PDT References: <00a501ce7145$8b8d52e0$a2a7f8a0$@hky.com> From: Jay Fishbein Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:52:13 -0400 To: Bud Osbourne Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] anyone ever hear of a factory Mk I Sprite, w/boot/trunk lid? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Ah yes. Round 17 of "The factory built a Bugeye with a trunk lid" discussion. Before we embark on those details, can we talk about that lake in Scotland? Jay Fishbein 61 Innocenti Spider w/factory trunk lid 63 Pink Sprite Mk II with Pink trunk lid On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:44 PM, "Bud Osbourne" wrote: > At a local trolley museum anniversary celebration (50 years), yesterday. > The museum had a classic car display and asked our local Triumph club to get > some cars out. Yeah, mine was the only MG there, but that's fine, too. > > Anyway, there was a guy there with a Mk I Sprite, which was fitted with a > boot/trunk lid. He says he's the second owner and the original owner was a > good friend of his. He claims the he was told (he really didn't know much > about Brit cars and didn't claim to, either) that his car is one of six > Sprites built with boot/trunk lids. > > > > Anyone ever hear of the factory doing anything like this? I thought it > could possibly have been some sort of prototype/design study done late in > the Mk I production run, when BMC was looking for ways to "freshen" the > design, to compete against the soon to be introduced Spitfire. Thoughts? > > And, no, unfortunately, I didn't have my camera along with me. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 19:58:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06DA440526 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:58:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f49.google.com (mail-la0-f49.google.com [209.85.215.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E1FD40043 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:57:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f49.google.com with SMTP id ea20so11081630lab.22 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 18:55:28 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6hTawMY3L1oAYuhNHqUDld0+ndYvHCBWK7newO1Z9e8=; b=MC+848BH4J3+QORq4rllZfzp5Gy7t3LMN/6oIhdvZu0yA8wQ88bK4b2Mp/QzlhvOJd ZbQbb8AsdipTzTle8LiytYdI5E4bpqv/dhhpHGHpNLMMJAsb9IQRT7rdwqE5EW+OpaJZ mtPa50LyCTrhDgii9JlFIsGXM1lsAwfQR3VsngdxOCic6bCYf3u3y4CqLCnvmhnBhFR0 +o0xKCJf0Sc66nA8XAOPkcU2RZ2PgywKVfifLlTWLPTPmVnFOp3/4bUQlNOsElJiy1Gi 7e+Q6Hazx60l6D+CzLRlAy1nsdZUijSTTXLPZra4g1f70nipmB/yKwIFG3olG0s+r6HJ A0Gw== c7mr12534948lag.39.1372125328192; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 18:55:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.71.228 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 18:55:28 -0700 (PDT) References: <00a501ce7145$8b8d52e0$a2a7f8a0$@hky.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:55:28 -0400 From: Kevin Valentine To: Bud Osbourne , Jay Fishbein Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] anyone ever hear of a factory Mk I Sprite, w/boot/trunk lid? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Bud and Jay, Take a look here; Take a look at these links; http://www.ahexp.com/phorum/read.php?6,1716,page=1 http://www.empowercoach.com/bio3.htm On the last on - scroll halfway down and you will see an advert for a bugeye trunk conversion.... (copied below) Just passing this along ;) Kev On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Bud Osbourne wrote: > At a local trolley museum anniversary celebration (50 years), yesterday. > The museum had a classic car display and asked our local Triumph club to > get > some cars out. Yeah, mine was the only MG there, but that's fine, too. > > Anyway, there was a guy there with a Mk I Sprite, which was fitted with a > boot/trunk lid. He says he's the second owner and the original owner was a > good friend of his. He claims the he was told (he really didn't know much > about Brit cars and didn't claim to, either) that his car is one of six > Sprites built with boot/trunk lids. > > > > Anyone ever hear of the factory doing anything like this? I thought it > could possibly have been some sort of prototype/design study done late in > the Mk I production run, when BMC was looking for ways to "freshen" the > design, to compete against the soon to be introduced Spitfire. Thoughts? > > And, no, unfortunately, I didn't have my camera along with me. > > Thanks, guys. > > Bud > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kevinv1275@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 20:25:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47DAD40527 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:25:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB7E940445 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:25:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta003.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r5P2NL11007626; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:23:37 -0700 Received: by dm0201.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d0476621) id dm0201.51a50b58.2fa6ec6; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:23:36 -0700 From: "Bud Osbourne" To: "'Jay Fishbein'" References: <00a501ce7145$8b8d52e0$a2a7f8a0$@hky.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:23:35 -0400 Thread-Index: AQFg5dd6ZSgmWF7PkPuaXn1AufNEKgHgii5XmhHEguA= Content-Language: en-us engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-06-25_01:2013-06-24,2013-06-25,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1306240292 Cc: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] anyone ever hear of a factory Mk I Sprite, w/boot/trunk lid? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Hmmmm. Interesting reply, Jay. So, I take it that "somebody" built some Mk I Sprites w/boot lids, but the debate has been about whether or not the factory built them? Well, I don't recall ever reading anything in Geoff Healey's books stating that the factory did them. But, that's the extent of my knowledge on the subject. Bud -----Original Message----- From: Jay Fishbein [mailto:jfishbein@snet.net] Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 9:52 PM To: Bud Osbourne Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] anyone ever hear of a factory Mk I Sprite, w/boot/trunk lid? Ah yes. Round 17 of "The factory built a Bugeye with a trunk lid" discussion. Before we embark on those details, can we talk about that lake in Scotland? Jay Fishbein 61 Innocenti Spider w/factory trunk lid 63 Pink Sprite Mk II with Pink trunk lid On Jun 24, 2013, at 9:44 PM, "Bud Osbourne" wrote: > At a local trolley museum anniversary celebration (50 years), yesterday. > The museum had a classic car display and asked our local Triumph club > to get some cars out. Yeah, mine was the only MG there, but that's fine, too. > > Anyway, there was a guy there with a Mk I Sprite, which was fitted > with a boot/trunk lid. He says he's the second owner and the original > owner was a good friend of his. He claims the he was told (he really > didn't know much about Brit cars and didn't claim to, either) that his > car is one of six Sprites built with boot/trunk lids. > > > > Anyone ever hear of the factory doing anything like this? I thought > it could possibly have been some sort of prototype/design study done > late in the Mk I production run, when BMC was looking for ways to > "freshen" the design, to compete against the soon to be introduced Spitfire. Thoughts? > > And, no, unfortunately, I didn't have my camera along with me. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 20:48:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDA240510 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:48:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ABE74044A for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 20:48:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta003.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r5P2hGcg020130; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:46:45 -0700 Received: by dm0220.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d0476621) id dm0220.51bf3f80.13e233; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:46:34 -0700 From: "Bud Osbourne" To: , "'Jay Fishbein'" References: <00a501ce7145$8b8d52e0$a2a7f8a0$@hky.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:46:34 -0400 Thread-Index: AQFg5dd6ZSgmWF7PkPuaXn1AufNEKgGj3Gf2mhOv8MA= Content-Language: en-us engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-06-25_01:2013-06-24,2013-06-25,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1306240298 Cc: 'Spridgets' Subject: Re: [Spridgets] anyone ever hear of a factory Mk I Sprite, w/boot/trunk lid? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks, Kevin and Gerard. That's some good information. If and when I see the fellow, again, I can tell him it was an aftermarket offering. We also told the guy about writing BMH Trust, for build data for his car. The car, BTW, was black with wire wheels. The boot lid had external hinges, which were chromed. I seem to remember him saying he got it from a buddy of his, in the Navy (?), who had purchased the car new, in England. Bud From: Kevin Valentine [mailto:kevinv1275@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 9:55 PM To: Bud Osbourne; Jay Fishbein Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] anyone ever hear of a factory Mk I Sprite, w/boot/trunk lid? Bud and Jay, Take a look here; Take a look at these links; http://www.ahexp.com/phorum/read.php?6,1716,page=1 http://www.empowercoach.com/bio3.htm On the last on - scroll halfway down and you will see an advert for a bugeye trunk conversion.... (copied below) Just passing this along ;) Kev On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Bud Osbourne wrote: At a local trolley museum anniversary celebration (50 years), yesterday. The museum had a classic car display and asked our local Triumph club to get some cars out. Yeah, mine was the only MG there, but that's fine, too. Anyway, there was a guy there with a Mk I Sprite, which was fitted with a boot/trunk lid. He says he's the second owner and the original owner was a good friend of his. He claims the he was told (he really didn't know much about Brit cars and didn't claim to, either) that his car is one of six Sprites built with boot/trunk lids. Anyone ever hear of the factory doing anything like this? I thought it could possibly have been some sort of prototype/design study done late in the Mk I production run, when BMC was looking for ways to "freshen" the design, to compete against the soon to be introduced Spitfire. Thoughts? And, no, unfortunately, I didn't have my camera along with me. Thanks, guys. Bud ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/kevinv1275@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jun 24 21:30:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D51640539 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:30:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail3c40.carrierzone.com (mail69c40.carrierzone.com [209.235.156.209]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A784044B for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:30:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Dell9200 (c-174-49-34-41.hsd1.tn.comcast.net [174.49.34.41]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail3c40.carrierzone.com (8.13.6/8.13.1) with ESMTP id r5P3SQ7E011932 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 25 Jun 2013 03:28:28 +0000 From: "Mark" To: "Jay Fishbein" , "Bud Osbourne" References: <00a501ce7145$8b8d52e0$a2a7f8a0$@hky.com> Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:28:23 -0500 a=Bs9SyY0ljuoA:10 a=zZKT3jqqOw0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=V6f-GIhDAAAA:8 a=jts8Mp-cCPAA:10 a=TjdLFENn0ss3brF0_RsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=V6RE5z5OoxD22U2SZb2tBg==:117 reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0 Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] anyone ever hear of a factory Mk I Sprite, w/boot/trunk lid? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Those were the cars that came with the chrome flash on the boot lid! Very rare! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Fishbein" Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] anyone ever hear of a factory Mk I Sprite, w/boot/trunk lid? Ah yes. Round 17 of "The factory built a Bugeye with a trunk lid" discussion. Before we embark on those details, can we talk about that lake in Scotland? Jay Fishbein 61 Innocenti Spider w/factory trunk lid 63 Pink Sprite Mk II with Pink trunk lid ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 25 06:40:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C054053F for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 06:40:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from fipsb01.cogeco.net (smtp1.cogeco.ca [216.221.81.28]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 033E9403E8 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 06:40:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from d226-81-137.home.cgocable.net (HELO HigginsPC) ([24.226.81.137]) by fipsb01.cogeco.net with ESMTP; 25 Jun 2013 08:38:45 -0400 From: "Greg Higgins" To: "Bud Osbourne" , "Spridgets" References: <00a501ce7145$8b8d52e0$a2a7f8a0$@hky.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 08:38:45 -0400 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] anyone ever hear of a factory Mk I Sprite, w/boot/trunk lid? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Do you remember the rusted out red bugeye that shows up on e-bay ever few years, it has the trunk conversion. The owner wanted $10.000 at one time, because of this rare/find option! The news editor of the Austin Healey Club of America, sent the photo of this rare find world wide. I contacted the editor of the A.H.C. and asked if anyone had any info on the prototype trunk lid, he said no information can foreword. Greg Higgins -----Original Message----- From: Bud Osbourne Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 9:44 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] anyone ever hear of a factory Mk I Sprite,w/boot/trunk lid? At a local trolley museum anniversary celebration (50 years), yesterday. The museum had a classic car display and asked our local Triumph club to get some cars out. Yeah, mine was the only MG there, but that's fine, too. Anyway, there was a guy there with a Mk I Sprite, which was fitted with a boot/trunk lid. He says he's the second owner and the original owner was a good friend of his. He claims the he was told (he really didn't know much about Brit cars and didn't claim to, either) that his car is one of six Sprites built with boot/trunk lids. Anyone ever hear of the factory doing anything like this? I thought it could possibly have been some sort of prototype/design study done late in the Mk I production run, when BMC was looking for ways to "freshen" the design, to compete against the soon to be introduced Spitfire. Thoughts? And, no, unfortunately, I didn't have my camera along with me. Thanks, guys. Bud ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/higgs6@cogeco.ca ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 25 07:01:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92944053F for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 07:01:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm23-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B756A403E7 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 07:01:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.101] by nm23.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2013 12:59:37 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.66] by tm6.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2013 12:59:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1003.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2013 12:59:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 12695 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Jun 2013 12:59:37 -0000 s=s1024; t=1372165176; bh=77A1Gtb78cLED4k97bywRIHJ2JZV1h8Vznuslb3vzOE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jNFEfjVWwAL4lsqXiEUkZX7NITXV8kFllM9K2/UePuo/x0yLRrAndQns3fhzbJGOvlRw7gp9uWFpFXsu2Gr1Y5Vm/YWN41+A3VnrPlbhlAzpcEThnDwNGi0/e2owyWT/zusPpku4tE6NFlxA2bLhXPAAOMUPfGwQtlm21i3rORo= s=s1024; d=snet.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rDPBQFjcX5OMAo/qC+hqmm8LBgKbPc9PA14cj56AW719+alsZ/GNoA/NcErrKKQYmc2YpyUCbG/aqAm0eTABj5aAVdj2avAZYkkeLYXSPTO4gFf/ZPAzl7cMQxaWEVSNyk7WyUbq9CFkcq1gL7Op9VChEILJdoBrjKpNPEm0ytE=; Y3fN_Qp7FrY1Acsp9TB0OXkLC42fXYM8dq.tT27OKm74fMy2fiRK7uUtguSd 68xlciFw4WMrUM72mfKowUytmgqGCH9JENi_rGlkU_A3y.CG6hzC_UuwwYAq z2avy_amnnm8gztN9s3mexu.Ek3.f1Rw_yOei3z12C6Vml_icxPfpFRzlB6p X4u1sLgsmUtRfkM2EQo3CSX9B_8vcBB.qhPbV6hnZb0amfaOQ7l2kOItBD47 67B230ou3D8QnWPUH.zjabghAEowj9KClbS95EqJ5Dhv27SceZs4CEK2RSRe iTFpSVgriedPScPQzzA3R3mYARRjpjoadMosEFaSunvo_PMmjDqesgglbFiB fmgrUobqQGxIuRSaErpVFOLTYnh1Ig._Sqdd73rEyx0d.5_C1cLb.afUy2gQ o3qnAKUt83XoGAUzVpIhtL5ScWLxH8497lPHAjsHQz4iMaFliI7k_fzW6d4q vzmLlONg3POX1iCOCxAckQ_Wc.7Ev1KpGPUB1cTE- Received: from [64.252.3.213] by web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 05:59:36 PDT RXZlcnkgc28gb2Z0ZW4gc29tZW9uZSBwcm9kdWNlcyBhICJyYXJlIiBmaW5kIG9mIHdoaWNoIG5vbmUgb2YgdGhlIHJlY29nbml6ZWQgYXV0aG9yaXRhdGl2ZSBzb3VyY2VzIGhhdmUgYW55IGtub3dsZWRnZS4gCgoKSXMgaXQgcG9zc2libGUgdGhhdCBEb25hbGQgb3IgR2VvZmZyZXkgSGVhbGV5IGN1dCBhIGhvbGUgaW4gYSBTcHJpdGUgcmVhciBkZWNrIGFuZCBmaXQgYSBib290IGxpZD8gQ2VydGFpbmx5LCBidXQgYXQgdGhpcyBsYXRlIGRhdGUgaXQgaXMgdW5saWtlbHkgc2luY2UgaXQgd2FzIG5ldmVyIG0BMAEBAQE- References: <00a501ce7145$8b8d52e0$a2a7f8a0$@hky.com> <1B010E4DC7F54F9090C43FE2950457CD@HigginsPC> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 05:59:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] anyone ever hear of a factory Mk I Sprite, w/boot/trunk lid? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Every so often someone produces a "rare" find of which none of the recognized authoritative sources have any knowledge. Is it possible that Donald or Geoffrey Healey cut a hole in a Sprite rear deck and fit a boot lid? Certainly, but at this late date it is unlikely since it was never mentioned in any of Geoff's books and since nothing ever surfaced from even the rarest of photo archives. PS I for one vividly remember the eBay Bugeye with the "factory" trunk lid. Like other "factory" boot lids, the ones that have seen on the internet are all be in the United States and not in England. jay fishbein wallingford, ct 61 Innocenti Spider 63 Pink Sprite Mk II >________________________________ > From: Greg Higgins >To: Bud Osbourne ; Spridgets >Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 8:38 AM >Subject: Re: [Spridgets] anyone ever hear of a factory Mk I Sprite, w/boot/trunk lid? > > >Do you remember the rusted out red bugeye that shows up on e-bay ever few years, ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 25 07:46:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2C140545 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 07:46:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm5.bt.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com (nm2-vm5.bt.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com [212.82.99.209]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A730403D7 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 07:46:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [212.82.98.47] by nm2.bt.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2013 13:44:37 -0000 Received: from [46.228.39.180] by tm8.bt.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2013 13:44:37 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp121.bt.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jun 2013 13:44:37 -0000 s=s1024; t=1372167877; bh=/SMOpq/XHFvcHK43BIg8uL7svozqbKHdVi48U95MLTY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-Antivirus; b=3NpLEjxoIkMxTg4rnih8RBq90nM7i5NKgFtY9L565ZNIKgyitGSFbqEreWviLCW6nNvfdQXLRDa0Lw3EgbR8BlIYcWbH8ySxOB28hqyv1g68pHNu0dVGYHVtkvKVSCxUl/pIvpe7ZArt1Z/tvKhwrK/iELlJw9GQuQbDoA4ACXQ= ptpimgqf6DHA5SQqHDyPTt9_nyHbK1Dkv7JldjT3hGk8u5tNnC9mbeZyM7ZE v0GFBTB.w2PZx4vZNRUBE4F1zdHNEsirF_QBfwpVDoJx4eiObJdL81iIgVSL wvK9HDceGyKa8DX.Tm3APqK1mEg7RddgystQTnoBB9ISZaAukcUtnFYnWpfm JIHL9gS70t3CfTbZReJDq8xaG_kvNfEvZIzfSNN4h2ff5hMH43LKILK1JCiJ dTAhtR4tUFWKPqnsq74N3F4o8vlEGJZ_YMV4_R8IuUopVU2mbitbffrexmlD eeFtloUAhJGocXzuKNNbdRaod_q7gYzF8GewfvUXTnLMY0_sl11KaTO68tDW jQZgDOtFveNyinu_nPGzyYQA1VnNOq4X47CcWoxeLm5wDPiCNW6K2RRci3HA KEIVsXi0Gp8kLRBcBhRJThRnBAMFuMH0cASDp0o2_1m0n7MSw84ojx9_olUj kc7xXeJFJqMwlgFsxIHaPAaJgHQgOTqQ- by smtp121.bt.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Jun 2013 13:44:37 +0000 UTC From: "GUY DAY" To: "Spridgets" References: <00a501ce7145$8b8d52e0$a2a7f8a0$@hky.com><1B010E4DC7F54F9090C43FE2950457CD@HigginsPC> <1372165176.10832.YahooMailNeo@web181306.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 14:45:20 +0100 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] anyone ever hear of a factory Mk I Sprite, w/boot/trunk lid? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net There probably were/are some in the UK and in my younger days even recall seeing an advertisement about them with a boast of a 'U' shaped lip and seal for the lid. If I remember the fittings/hinges were from am A30 or A35. I always wondered (not so much nowadays) where the water went when the lip was full as there was no drain hole and the opening didn't seem to fold round far enough back to let it drain over the outside of the bodywork. I can also recall debate about the opening being large enough to get the spare wheel and tyre through. I don't really know why, after someone has come up with a bright idea and had their Spridget altered or even done it themselves (any adequately skilled body chap could do it), it is always attributed to the 'unique and rare factory modified' unrecorded design done by Donald and Geoffrey Healey in secret in the barn at the side of their house.... BTW, have you seen the recent pictures of the thoroughly rusted one for sale at Bury in the UK that Donald and Geoffrey Healey modified with a Ford Pinto engine, rear fins and a plate with a 3 legged frog design on the hood? Guy R Day ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay" <> To: "Spridgets" Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] anyone ever hear of a factory Mk I Sprite, w/boot/trunk lid? > Every so often someone produces a "rare" find of which none of the > recognized > authoritative sources have any knowledge. > > > Is it possible that Donald or > Geoffrey Healey cut a hole in a Sprite rear deck and fit a boot lid? > Certainly, but at this late date it is unlikely since it was never > mentioned > in any of Geoff's books and since nothing ever surfaced from even the > rarest > of photo archives. > > PS I for one vividly remember the eBay Bugeye with the > "factory" trunk lid. Like other "factory" boot lids, the ones that have > seen > on the internet are all be in the United States and not in England. > > > jay > fishbein > wallingford, ct > 61 Innocenti Spider > > 63 Pink Sprite Mk II >>________________________________ >> From: Greg Higgins <> >>To: > Bud Osbourne <>; Spridgets >>Sent: > Tuesday, June 25, 2013 8:38 AM >>Subject: Re: [Spridgets] anyone ever hear of a > factory Mk I Sprite, w/boot/trunk lid? >> >> >>Do you remember the rusted out > red bugeye that shows up on e-bay ever few years, > ------------------------ ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3345 / Virus Database: 3199/6437 - Release Date: 06/24/13 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 25 08:05:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9290440450 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 08:05:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth14.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth14.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90EF0403A7 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 08:05:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [71.236.143.70] (helo=spider) by smtpauth14.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1UrTqG-000242-Tt for spridgets@autox.team.net; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 10:03:33 -0400 From: To: Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 07:03:27 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac5xqjD0EEtiR85GQBSMtfoF/anYDwAAei8wAAAn45A= Subject: [Spridgets] renamed: UK Bugeye with tail fins Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net UK Bugeye with tail fins: http://tinyurl.com/qakxhcb Bill in Oregon ====================================== -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of GUY DAY Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 6:45 AM To: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] anyone ever hear of a factory Mk I Sprite, w/boot/trunk lid? There probably were/are some in the UK and in my younger days even recall seeing an advertisement about them with a boast of a 'U' shaped lip and seal for the lid. If I remember the fittings/hinges were from am A30 or A35. I always wondered (not so much nowadays) where the water went when the lip was full as there was no drain hole and the opening didn't seem to fold round far enough back to let it drain over the outside of the bodywork. I can also recall debate about the opening being large enough to get the spare wheel and tyre through. I don't really know why, after someone has come up with a bright idea and had their Spridget altered or even done it themselves (any adequately skilled body chap could do it), it is always attributed to the 'unique and rare factory modified' unrecorded design done by Donald and Geoffrey Healey in secret in the barn at the side of their house.... BTW, have you seen the recent pictures of the thoroughly rusted one for sale at Bury in the UK that Donald and Geoffrey Healey modified with a Ford Pinto engine, rear fins and a plate with a 3 legged frog design on the hood? Guy R Day ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 25 21:16:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AECE40521 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 21:16:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f50.google.com (mail-bk0-f50.google.com [209.85.214.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C1DD40413 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 21:16:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-bk0-f50.google.com with SMTP id ik8so4722614bkc.9 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 20:14:20 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=SUMkHMZMjqOie8eOt1zo+ecU5fBjchObhrIadWZj7B8=; b=K3ywwIkhO2l24N25k9xrziLAQRFfOEMS1AwRy2uqKMzY4sp0VQH5qUk+yVJKVnofH7 dCyON5tYzVktv8xoQK5FQtm6NVWmCJWKxTsZfToLLo0XR0GW4tpxovXTZY4X8f49ORwj u8hpa2Hii0TzUCYzDjk1Z7yFRKGtf1QB+62HiaLAVaQ/9vqo5FDsFDxTHSHrpfGvxjTM T6zb5AjI0JWHOzIh+WMgzr8xZtDV0h33kTbX58UVofDOAwfkqKpslvjibNCQM+m8dI8X /riXoXBIr26+ArwcqvgF+GfZqy7iZ+qR+YAiitVVVvqC9mLfD5aQyL0P4aoXQ9/p8a1H CKVA== kb9mr202015bkb.184.1372216460020; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 20:14:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.38.201 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 20:14:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 20:14:19 -0700 From: WFO Herb To: Spridgeteers Subject: [Spridgets] Vizard "A-Series" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net What 'edition' is current? Thanks, Herb ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jun 25 21:17:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB0340537 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 21:17:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com (mail-bk0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED80740413 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 21:17:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-bk0-f41.google.com with SMTP id jc3so4735712bkc.28 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 20:15:44 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3jtqVXpraDaQC3WHNAVRUYGAJ80nmb+8EWAMNemgNh4=; b=l+JCJarKnfiBrffo5bhKxE1DV/v2MKsy7dyKowkNIqPjJXjlDFWqr79OVC49dyZCYQ ycq1MGKGHvkZbHLNQ/+rFjFsD4cvdbnT5NpPwJ5PK0bX731uwCQbFK4b2/LXEYssfU3c SCkTcyhyfVFnOg4xtWCsn+vxzwY9uDnmtviIU6rPpRUjRCt2NmTw8MSaZmu7nSVXON/s FYk4CMC+SpKdflPT9J09d1rzgKO8p4Os8PtiCbZYChcLr6O8Cby6Q7LuYWLa3X/cGZHS cvzcBVwLB35XkM90NMVrPPbo0ysdmjDqPi0hwxKLYJYMB1gnrLWfxmyd4KmWub0YmjPJ Gp3A== ot10mr224037bkb.21.1372216544150; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 20:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.38.201 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Jun 2013 20:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 20:15:44 -0700 From: WFO Herb To: Spridgeteers Subject: [Spridgets] Cam identification Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Anyone know specs on a cam with "E177" stamped on it? (1275) Thank you, Herb ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 26 09:52:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0826942765 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 09:52:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from brantnet.kwic.com (brantnet.kwic.com [205.150.58.224]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B6240042 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 09:51:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (adsl-64-136-125-144.kwic.com [64.136.125.144]) by brantnet.kwic.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r5QFnJXA065005 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:49:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ridleymj@brant.net) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 11:49:25 -0400 From: Martyn Ridley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Vizard "A-Series" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Chater and Scott are selling the 3rd edition, 25GBP. Cheers, Martyn On 6/25/2013 11:14 PM, WFO Herb wrote: > What 'edition' is current? > > Thanks, > > Herb > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/ridleymj@brant.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 26 17:02:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1A540416 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 17:02:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06D1D403BA for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 16:58:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id t4gn1l0020SCNGk5DAwG95; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 22:56:16 +0000 Received: from blackbox2 ([69.253.143.59]) by omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tAwG1l00Z1H6MAV3VAwGsx; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 22:56:16 +0000 From: "Dean Hedin" To: "'Bud Osbourne'" , "'Spridgets'" References: <00a501ce7145$8b8d52e0$a2a7f8a0$@hky.com> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 18:56:13 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5xRYpeRgv2Km5eSfSMnTqEB8DfZABeXYPw s=q20121106; t=1372287376; bh=72G+oR3tq/FC1VXBKtHMkqpp2acQA5QPh1VFyOGGZMM=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=V24GN/YxCT19K3PDTG0kQ6KDbfwDwmLF/EE0HS2Hofebq9cVlt/n1SEivPrc/PS53 TOFhFz2Zs0da4oa+D41yHnVabeXaUJqnxZ684+lPgXLPkgxxKVUcaQITcmhvstOyRQ I6eHiHw32EYo2pEcjDjonPRk5+FjUk73cPAt5FHK66WTY7Zo0PNn/nUCvUF4IkiC9N L1RiO0ZeVoj8H20PRvgtnDIJVCZ9ML2htH4BZXzf5SINGh/233rMr8iPsRxearEjF3 rEVqZBHLLhAi0+kCPAoi5sUtJUz1aSAVXkmgNCUjGxCD0JmQ1mo4JwoYiTBWtNZ7wC octmIwKAtUHSw== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] anyone ever hear of a factory Mk I Sprite, w/boot/trunk lid? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net There was this one at the 50th.. Father and his son did the conversion. Real clean job, you would swear it was factory. http://s295.photobucket.com/user/brokencase_photos/media/jubilee/IMGP0773-01 .jpg.html BTW, they converted to wire wheels the "hard way" on this car, by cutting all the half spring fittings from a later wire wheel axle housing and then welding quarter spring fittings to make it go into the Bugeye. Can't remember their names, but the son's first name was Calan I believe. They also did a nice safety upgrade presentation at the event. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 26 18:53:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0541A40436 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 18:53:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46507403BA for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 18:53:16 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=K+oRzlJDn6VgM1FdanMzRiYvi6vG9Z23oicMjgjVZ5LU+NYlCvXN5iDl5ecSovI7; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.40.135.119] (helo=HomeComputer) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Us0Qd-0004kj-Q0 for spridgets@autox.team.net; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 20:51:15 -0400 From: "Dean Swanson" To: Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 20:51:10 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5y0GoXpMHfZ9kqQBOSL8ZM4LMNHQ== Subject: [Spridgets] NFI - 1967 Saab Sonnet ii - $2750 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I stumbled across this on the Raleigh, NC craigslist and remembered races Sonnets: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3885920275.html This a restoration project has all parts (there are Saab sonnets out there still) but this is one of 232 made) so worth a little more if you got the time/connections and/or skills this is restoration project with a big payback http://www.nadaguides.com/Classic-Cars/1967/Saab/Sonett-II/2-Door-Sport-Coup e/Values Some one said they bought one already for 500.00, not this model, plus this has all parts so no searching for stuff, just start cleaning and putting back together(father started project before he passed) And the roll bar is factory, these cars came SCCA race ready from the factory( The price is a starting Point , not set in Stone) * Location: obo * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Posting ID: 3885920275 Posted: 2013-06-21, 2:30PM ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 26 19:20:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB2840422 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 19:20:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth13.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth13.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0120403D3 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 19:19:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [71.236.143.70] (helo=spider) by smtpauth13.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Us0qO-0006P3-6m for spridgets@autox.team.net; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 21:17:52 -0400 From: To: References: <3AE5DC004BDD44C99D1BA506BBF3809B@HomeComputer> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 18:17:51 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac5y0GoXpMHfZ9kqQBOSL8ZM4LMNHQAA016A Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NFI - 1967 Saab Sonnet ii - $2750 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_Sonnett In the US, the two-stroke engine was called the 'Shrike' at that time. Its displacement was reduced slightly, to 819 cc to avoid emission regulations which exempted engines under 50 in3... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_two-stroke ================================================ -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Swanson Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:51 PM To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] NFI - 1967 Saab Sonnet ii - $2750 I stumbled across this on the Raleigh, NC craigslist and remembered races Sonnets: http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3885920275.html This a restoration project has all parts (there are Saab sonnets out there still) but this is one of 232 made) so worth a little more if you got the time/connections and/or skills this is restoration project with a big payback http://www.nadaguides.com/Classic-Cars/1967/Saab/Sonett-II/2-Door-Sport-Coup e/Values Some one said they bought one already for 500.00, not this model, plus this has all parts so no searching for stuff, just start cleaning and putting back together(father started project before he passed) And the roll bar is factory, these cars came SCCA race ready from the factory( The price is a starting Point , not set in Stone) * Location: obo * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests Posting ID: 3885920275 Posted: 2013-06-21, 2:30PM ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis@peoplepc.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 26 20:27:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD87F40436 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 20:27:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D48403A0 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 20:27:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.73]) by qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tEGh1l0011ap0As5EER33m; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 02:25:03 +0000 Received: from blackbox2 ([69.253.143.59]) by omta22.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tER31l00R1H6MAV3iER3Xv; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 02:25:03 +0000 From: "Dean Hedin" To: , References: <3AE5DC004BDD44C99D1BA506BBF3809B@HomeComputer> <597FA701C8B04EFE8A712B166B2D0353@spider> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 22:24:59 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5y0GoXpMHfZ9kqQBOSL8ZM4LMNHQAA016AAAGJIxA= s=q20121106; t=1372299903; bh=N8fLPoMRg26FFmHtuhkqynTRPP+KfuPaqlcrD6Mqs6M=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=UTqnccyoNg9CTNf8OEkv0XyY7kJoVgjoaZ8UX4Zse+aGCsZpW4V2DLLKcK8kpkvBl ybbKJoWnIeJ0yKMoO/d3GjReM+Xk2k04xbI885R2P/mRIjPTr/buxRySlbaqJH8dkN EkX+BonObh0g+NdzNPfs6QyRzWlOWADpXDdqqgk5fh8coNAUbS1UeYlYfBaJh7OL6O yM9BSMX7rDs9qnaIcUyqY4fu/MhgNFkluG/7hSqsLSAvllaT0zIYmb9BtbkSGAaH1z xO9rDzirGTh6CAZf6X6kwSltKljf+tMj5B5j3niBDVAmw3PMNM99kqoBLhvedzo/VI k6baGrqWexa4g== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NFI - 1967 Saab Sonnet ii - $2750 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Growing up in Sao Paulo, Brazil in the mid 70's I can attest that these vehicles were the most polluting contraptions ever devised by mankind...(Sorry Charles) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_93 Hard to believe the Swedes came up with this "thing". Did they ever drive them in their own country? When did they outlaw them? One cannot imagine what endless SAAB 93 taxis billowing their blue smoke down Avineda Santo Ammaro is like. It is an impression in my mind that will never go away. In fact, I could do a good impressionist painting of this. It would be sort of this blue stippled haze with these hemispherically shaped SAAB 93's going hither and yon. All upon a backdrop of dingy and dirty buildings. However, despite all this, I still believe that with modern computer control, careful intake and exhaust timing, (and maybe perhaps supercharging) the two stroke might still be tamed! Proof that I am indeed, a crazy Swede. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 26 20:34:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 990AD40532 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 20:34:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7337E403A0 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 20:34:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130627023208.HQVG10143.mta41.charter.net@imp11> for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 22:32:08 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.114] ([75.134.176.130]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id tEY71l00P2pAxSb05EY7tk; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 22:32:08 -0400 a=Py4t3GyzpY5HiGdPXRMyTw==:17 a=RyDfC36fxQMA:10 a=7Vtkk4Wg9cEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=4ycV2vTZAAAA:8 a=RV6qez7JvrkA:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=8pif782wAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=3oB4mlNd7vL-tsqLKZkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=OpnbjhRAqwMA:10 a=Py4t3GyzpY5HiGdPXRMyTw==:117 References: <3AE5DC004BDD44C99D1BA506BBF3809B@HomeComputer> <597FA701C8B04EFE8A712B166B2D0353@spider> <80C24688F35E4265A10F734F624657B3@blackbox2> From: Rick Fisk Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 22:32:07 -0400 To: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NFI - 1967 Saab Sonnet ii - $2750 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I worked for Kawasaki Motors at their SoCal Tech Center back in the 70's. We did some tests on the KZ750 and 900 3 cylinder engines when the EPA started making noise about pollution controls on motorcycles. The bikes were screamers, but we found that up to 40% of the gasoline used went right from the tank through the engine and out the tailpipe. Talk about pollution. :-) Sent from my keyboard On Jun 26, 2013, at 10:24 PM, "Dean Hedin" wrote: > Growing up in Sao Paulo, Brazil in the mid 70's I can attest that these > vehicles were the most > polluting contraptions ever devised by mankind...(Sorry Charles) > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_93 > > Hard to believe the Swedes came up with this "thing". Did they ever drive > them in their own country? > When did they outlaw them? > > One cannot imagine what endless SAAB 93 taxis billowing their blue smoke > down Avineda Santo Ammaro is like. > It is an impression in my mind that will never go away. In fact, I could do > a good impressionist painting > of this. It would be sort of this blue stippled haze with these > hemispherically shaped SAAB 93's going hither > and yon. All upon a backdrop of dingy and dirty buildings. > > However, despite all this, I still believe that with modern computer > control, careful intake and exhaust timing, > (and maybe perhaps supercharging) the two stroke might still be tamed! > > Proof that I am indeed, a crazy Swede. > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 26 22:22:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95CB140418 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 22:22:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5747F4006D for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 22:21:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9164EA107B for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 22:18:44 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 22:18:44 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: Spridget list References: <19CE7D0193FC4EDE8593312D1FE37227@DzikoLLCHP> Subject: [Spridgets] Fwd: [Bmcu] Mystery Sprite - any one missing one ? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net One of the local club guys here in Salt Lake was helping a fellow with his Triumph, and the guy mentioned there was another one for sale in the neighborhood. Turns out it is a Sprite Mark 2. Mostly. Gee, wonder what happened to the numbers? And the original engine? mjb. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Bmcu] Mystery Sprite - any one missing one ? Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 21:24:53 -0600 Further to looking into this Sprite... I went digging for the "BBhidden"BB numbers .. The door posts revealed screw holes on both sides where a plate had been ... but no numbers Floor cross member on right is rusted,BB I couldn'BBt see anything but will take a closer look. The right suspension plate, after much crud removalBB reveal HAN XXXXX where someone had carefully and methodically obliterated the numbers ... But the final place under the electrical cables tucked under the right fender/wing revealed as clean as day 57700 is that a body number or part of the VIN ? So to the cognoscenti out there, would the original VIN have been HAN 57700 ? Closer examination of the plate welded to left chassis leg directly under the carbs shows it was very poor job, on thick plate and clearly not factory, taken from something but I doubt a Sprite. The Engine is an MGB 1.8 (18 is stamped on the rear of the casting, and it appears an MGB gear box was used too, hence the expanded tunnel metal work. The engine mountings up front are sitting on crude but effective I beams about 4" deep - to get the lift required from the Sprite mount to MGB mount ...(Compression was reasonable at 150,132,132 138) So anyone missing a Sprite Mk II ? probably red to begin with, then yellow and now metallic blue... Steve _______________________________________________ Bmcu@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jun 26 22:52:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35EAA4056E for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 22:52:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BA7540043 for ; Wed, 26 Jun 2013 22:51:59 -0600 (MDT) a=wcho/ydQa97mDXA78dTScQ==:17 a=ah4-TjS3KtAA:10 a=RyDfC36fxQMA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=RV6qez7JvrkA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=K3e1NQirAAAA:8 a=8pif782wAAAA:8 a=SKnf3Mwi8S8_rEBUxEsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=5UstcoMOk9kA:10 a=wcho/ydQa97mDXA78dTScQ==:117 Received: from [72.182.73.185] ([72.182.73.185:51660] helo=AJS) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id D7/84-07405-574CBC15; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 04:49:57 +0000 From: "Jim Seippel" To: , References: <3AE5DC004BDD44C99D1BA506BBF3809B@HomeComputer> <597FA701C8B04EFE8A712B166B2D0353@spider> Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2013 23:49:48 -0500 Thread-Index: AQGlPKFgYYkN6DdjDcAINPLmDSgBTwKqkgqCmYYI0SA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NFI - 1967 Saab Sonnet ii - $2750 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net In my misspent youth (18 year old) I worked for the Saab dealer in Chapel Hill, NC. This was back in '66. Did a lot of work on 2 stroke Saabs. I still have a Saab 2 stoke timing tool. It was a special dial indicator that screwed into the middle cylinder. The 750GTs and Monte Carlos were a lot of fun to drive. They had a 4 speed on the column. There were no automatics. You drive the car by accelerating in each gear until the power fell off and then shifting. The transmission had a free-wheeling feature so you couldn't use the engine for braking when slowing down. Since it was a 2 stroke, Saab was concerned that there would be no lubrication if the throttle was closed and the engine was still turning high RPMs. When I went to work there, mechanics were paid a 50% commission for work. My predecessor took a bunch of cars apart and them was paid half of the total commission. He quit without completing anything. I had to deal all of the unhappy customers, some of whom had been without their cars for over a year. I had to find all of the parts and then put them back together. The shop wanted me to complete the repairs for the other half of the labor (25% of the total). They didn't get their way. The owner of the dealership bought a 289 cobra and then brought it back to the garage. The manager (who had some racing experience) pulled the engine out the first day it was there so they could "blue-print" the engine. When I left, the owner wound up sending the car to a Ford racing engine shop that had ties back to Shelby. The manager of the dealership also "borrowed" one of the factory cars that was floor-planned for sale. He put in a roll bar and went racing at VIR. He rolled the car on the downhill before the pit straight the first weekend out. He left under a cloud when Saab North America pulled an inventory of the cars and several were missing. It turned out he sold them and never paid Saab. They were not happy. Fortunately the owner was heir to a large fortune. It was somewhat smaller when the dust finally settled. That was a wild time. I was glad to get out of that madhouse. Jim -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of corvallis@peoplepc.com Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:18 PM To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NFI - 1967 Saab Sonnet ii - $2750 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_Sonnett In the US, the two-stroke engine was called the 'Shrike' at that time. Its displacement was reduced slightly, to 819 cc to avoid emission regulations which exempted engines under 50 in3... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_two-stroke ================================================ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 27 07:59:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E2442779 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 07:59:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from st11p05mm-asmtp001.mac.com (st11p05mm-asmtpout004.mac.com [17.172.108.249]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E771C4274F for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 07:59:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.170.19.14] (mobile-166-137-081-051.mycingular.net [166.137.81.51]) by st11p05mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MP2005N01FD1T10@st11p05mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 13:57:26 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-06-27_06:2013-06-27,2013-06-27,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1306270091 References: <3AE5DC004BDD44C99D1BA506BBF3809B@HomeComputer> <597FA701C8B04EFE8A712B166B2D0353@spider> <80C24688F35E4265A10F734F624657B3@blackbox2> From: Larry Macy Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 09:57:14 -0400 To: Dean Hedin Cc: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NFI - 1967 Saab Sonnet ii - $2750 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Where's chuck when the 93 needs a defender?? Larry -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car. Sent from my Magical iPad On Jun 26, 2013, at 10:24 PM, Dean Hedin wrote: > Growing up in Sao Paulo, Brazil in the mid 70's I can attest that these > vehicles were the most > polluting contraptions ever devised by mankind...(Sorry Charles) > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_93 > > Hard to believe the Swedes came up with this "thing". Did they ever drive > them in their own country? > When did they outlaw them? > > One cannot imagine what endless SAAB 93 taxis billowing their blue smoke > down Avineda Santo Ammaro is like. > It is an impression in my mind that will never go away. In fact, I could do > a good impressionist painting > of this. It would be sort of this blue stippled haze with these > hemispherically shaped SAAB 93's going hither > and yon. All upon a backdrop of dingy and dirty buildings. > > However, despite all this, I still believe that with modern computer > control, careful intake and exhaust timing, > (and maybe perhaps supercharging) the two stroke might still be tamed! > > Proof that I am indeed, a crazy Swede. > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy@mac.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 27 08:10:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF90142762 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 08:10:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-3.server.virginmedia.net (unknown [80.0.253.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D028E42750 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 08:05:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TINY2 ([82.28.50.245]) by know-smtprelay-3-imp with bizsmtp id tS1l1l00E5HQuzW01S1lgs; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:01:47 +0100 a=G4c-rqE-ixEA:10 a=3NElcqgl2aoA:10 a=a5Gf7U6LAAAA:8 a=ynqlei_F3eIA:10 a=qV0mfD4mAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=xLeDpIwMAAAA:20 a=_DnlLrm1VBeyz4rzQ-YA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Fe346xunCJUA:10 a=QirohZrruGUA:10 a=cQ8j1yWGwvIA:10 a=ao4RW71Vw8YA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=LlcT1g3zbORqEhhP:21 a=lz1u_v_MXJceMAbf:21 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=G_5s8neSAAAA:8 a=3o59siTooz5S2GZoP3wA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=oC81rG00GdvFnnwV:21 a=18bv7z7Cp_5sQkIC:21 a=sGUPs_BT7T0C5YzK:21 a=0FasF/Zu9H/xpRHYGOuKNQ==:117 From: "G & J Swann-Price" To: , "'a_1960_frog'" , References: Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:02:19 +0100 Thread-Index: Ac5yDD7ac1C4dI+AQ3+RUfZtbqVFHgBMRRqQ Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Sprites at the 24hr du Mans Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, Here is a potted history of Sprite running at Le Mans. Most notable are the class wins of 60 and 65. Year Position Starters Classified Car Number Team / Entrant Car - Engine Driver, Nationality Engine (cc) Group Laps Km Reason Out / Notes 1960 16/55 16 46 Donald Healey Motor Co, GB Austin-Healey Sprite 'Sebring' John Dalton, GB John K. Colgate Jr, USA DNS John Sprinzel, DNS Ross 996 S 1.0 246 3,307 Sports cars, CSI Class 6 Winner: 851-1000cc 1961 45/55 DNF 42 Donald Healey Motor Co, GB Austin Healey Sebring Sprite John K. Colgate Jr, USA Paul Hawkins, AUS 994 S 1.0 64 Valve failure after 8 hours 1962 No Entry 1963 30/49 DNF 42 Donald Healey Motor Co, GB Austin-Healey Sprite 1100 Sir John Whitmore, GB Bob Olthoff, GB/ZA 1100 P 94 Accident after 9 hours 1964 24/55 24 53 Donald Healey Motor Co, GB Austin Healey Sebring Sprite Clive Baker, GB William 'Bill' Bradley, GB 1101 P 257 3,458 1965 12/51 12 49 Donald Healey Motor Co, GB Austin-Healey Sprite Le Mans Paul Hawkins, AUS John Rhodes, GB DNS Timo Mdkinen, SF 1293 P 278 3,726 Class Winner: Prototype 1151 - 1300cc 1966 18/55 DNF 49 Donald Healey Motor Co, GB Austin Healey Sprite Le Mans Paddy Hopkirk, IRL Andrew Hedges, GB 1293 P 237 Con rod after 21 hours. 1967 15/54 15 51 Donald Healey Motor Co, GB Austin-Healey Sprite Le Mans Clive Baker, GB Andrew Hedges, GB 1292 P 1300 289 3,897 Won Motor Trophy for 1st British car home. 1968 15/54 15 50 Donald Healey Motor Co, GB Austin-Healey Sprite Le Mans Roger Enever, GB Alec Poole, GB 1293 P 1300 255 3,421 Won Motor Trophy & Rudge Whitworth Bi-annual Trophy. Geri _____ From: bugeye@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bugeye@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of a_1960_frog Sent: 26 June 2013 02:27 To: bugeye@yahoogroups.com Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Sprites at the 24 Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:26PM Hi all, With this year's 24 Hours of Le Mans over, I was wondering if back in the day, did anyone ever campaign a Sprite at the 24? Here in the states it used to clean up in H Production SCCA racing. Cheers Forrest __._,_.___ Reply via web post to sender Reply to group Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (1) Recent Activity: * New Members 2 * New Photos 12 Visit Your Group If you wish to unsubscribe from the Austin Healey Bugeye Frogeye Sprite Club, please send a blank email to: bugeye-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com If you no longer want to receive emails, but wish to remain a member of the group, you may go to the website http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bugeye/ and change your subscription to "Web Only" and you will not receive any emails. Yahoo! Groups Switch to: t:%20Traditional> Text-Only, Daily Digest   Terms of Use  edesigned%20individual%20mail%20v1> Send us Feedback . __,_._,___ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 27 09:38:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 614C942792 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 09:38:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from st11p05mm-asmtp003.mac.com (st11p05mm-asmtp003.mac.com [17.172.108.248]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1672542756 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 09:09:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.20.10.2] (mobile-166-137-081-051.mycingular.net [166.137.81.51]) by st11p05mm-asmtp003.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MP2002QW4OC7G70@st11p05mm-asmtp003.mac.com> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:07:34 +0000 (GMT) engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-06-27_06:2013-06-27,2013-06-27,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1305010000 definitions=main-1306270104 From: Larry Macy Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:07:23 -0400 References: <1372107360.12468.YahooMailNeo@web122102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: Jim Johnson Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Spot the cool car. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Its a B, sorry Larry On Jun 24, 2013, at 5:15 PM, Jim Johnson wrote: > Yup. Looks like a square body for sure... Chrome bumper and all. > > Cheers!! > Jim > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > >> I think there are 2 - the one next to the T-Bird looks Spridgety too. >> >> Ron >> Soave >> Roscoe, IL >> >> >> "It only goes one way." >> "Pay it forward." >>> ________________________________ >>> From: brian >>> To: >> Spridgets >>> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:46 AM >>> Subject: [Spridgets] Spot the cool car. >>> >>> >>> I know there are plenty of >> facebook haters out there, but for the rest of >>> you, check out my Alma Mater's >> facebook page, and see if you can spot the >>> cool car in situ. It is in the >> parade float picture. No idea what year >>> the picture was taken. >>> >>> https://www.facebook.com/HumboldtState >>> >>> Brian >>> ------------------------ >>> >>> spridgets@autox.team.net >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero@yahoo.com >> ------------------------ >> >> spridgets@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman@gmail.com >> > > > > -- > Cheers!! > Jim Johnson > Sprite-Midget Club USA > High Plains Youth Hockey > Dodge City Trail of Fame > Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology > Dodge City 300 > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/lmacy@mac.com -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. macy@upenn.edu System Manager/Administrator Neuropsychiatry Section Department of Psychiatry University of Pennsylvania 3400 Spruce St. - 10 Gates Philadelphia, PA 19104 Ask a question and you're a fool for three minutes; do not ask a question and you're a fool for the rest of your life. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 27 13:51:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD23240447 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 13:51:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ee0-f43.google.com (mail-ee0-f43.google.com [74.125.83.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E761C40382 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 13:51:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ee0-f43.google.com with SMTP id l10so617191eei.30 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 12:49:20 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=REaTT8f2j1/8TIMx6vGkziU1DFqHRv33RoyYknWgXRU=; b=dMi7sUMSOqBFTgnF06k1J964NaNkkhGf3FrFLGYL7m+WnHp0sjZd5VJYSkFTb1+9I6 q7JrpFM0ypk+/hMUpLbqiAz8+WKimjfWi9byPxitYbatWOIWbDuB7DARee4OyaB8VRgC Div2FV5D1eUXx9ihzN1N8+DP/7FUqnrpDPOU+StdogedeSYtoPvyCekpXc7MSdXCHq6I 5r6XtXv/dmxetLIEfKzwWgBRhRfX8JI74AZSxy0BXZiqB5QgEHdDJJM9oTcSNUlUAOEi oocSS9a7EsowUktStZj4qLFbwm70gBTgn8GGCSNcs/exaaYgwZbt8x20m0NP3pQjKERd tnvw== r45mr10494757eez.79.1372362560024; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 12:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.152.135 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 12:49:19 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:49:19 -0400 From: Trevor Jessie To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Ugly Bug just got uglier ... thanks to Ms. Doe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net I was bringing my daughter home from camp "Hi-Ho" today when a deer decided to run in front of the car. Lucky for the deer I wasn't driving my SUV. The deer got it's rear legs clipped out from under it. We ducked as its hind quarters sailed over the top of the windscreen. It popped up and ran off (probably with a broken leg). The damage to the car was limited to the grill and nose. So it is now official: the car does not have a single straight panel on it. -Trevor ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 27 14:57:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF7940530 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:57:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mailbag.wi.net (mailbag.wi.net [209.225.111.206]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE86A40397 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:57:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 173-108-245-83.pools.spcsdns.net ([173.108.245.83] helo=[192.168.1.104]) by mailbag.wi.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UsJDi-00010L-32 for spridgets@autox.team.net; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:55:10 -0500 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:55:07 -0500 From: dwoerpel User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ugly Bug just got uglier ... thanks to Ms. Doe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Whew! Glad you are both OK Trevor. It did all that without breaking off the windscreen? A friend and his buddy took his MkII Sprite out and came back to the dorm sans windscreen and mirror. The deer attempted to jump the car and ended up in their laps. The right front wing/headlight was pranged from hitting a tree because he couldn't steer. The deer took off after they stopped bruising the occupants in its scramble to get out. Like I said, very glad you're OK. Hmmm, Speedwell bonnet as a replacement!? Regards, Dave :{) On 6/27/2013 2:49 PM, Trevor Jessie wrote: > I was bringing my daughter home from camp "Hi-Ho" today when a deer decided > to run in front of the car. Lucky for the deer I wasn't driving my SUV. The > deer got it's rear legs clipped out from under it. We ducked as its hind > quarters sailed over the top of the windscreen. It popped up and ran off > (probably with a broken leg). The damage to the car was limited to the > grill and nose. So it is now official: the car does not have a single > straight panel on it. > > -Trevor > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/dwoerpel@wi.net > -- "Let prejudices and local interests yield to reason. Let us look to our National character and beyond the present period." G. Washington ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 27 15:08:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6751340414 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:08:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from atl4mhob13.myregisteredsite.com (atl4mhob13.myregisteredsite.com [209.17.115.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248D740046 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 15:08:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailpod.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.209]) by atl4mhob13.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r5RL6FSF026230 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 17:06:15 -0400 Received: (qmail 22126 invoked by uid 0); 27 Jun 2013 21:06:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?75.215.140.65?) (al@tkorecords.com@75.215.140.65) by 0 with ESMTPA; 27 Jun 2013 21:06:15 -0000 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/11.4.0.080122 Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 14:06:12 -0700 From: Billy Zoom To: dwoerpel , Thread-Topic: [Spridgets] Ugly Bug just got uglier ... thanks to Ms. Doe Thread-Index: Ac5zeicgZYqYjN9tEeKI1QAewglIlQ== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ugly Bug just got uglier ... thanks to Ms. Doe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net You don't have one of those JC Whitney deer whistles? ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 27 17:01:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9512403EF for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 17:01:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ea0-f177.google.com (mail-ea0-f177.google.com [209.85.215.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7F040359 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 17:01:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ea0-f177.google.com with SMTP id j14so692902eak.36 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:01:19 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=pdR1QxdHkQ8qUpJBR7B52LzccGaTODOE2XSxmaQPrc8=; b=Py20Vzapr/6RUfS2tGIEDmeNjSM1onzN6h79ECtmsygAXhQcVITyMsh9TnntFKauyG 1I7rMJes0djMWpr3/EQVPIVfFZ9qP827SgkUSqtrVs1/RPFhMwQFzTcBOHyIZBk/OK/h /efgulfcCJ+8hcem0Wr1UeK6dcIlaXBW9en3i8jheUnDlg9cYpwLCpUWMpSpWHORNxbf W1+XoNVvGTad0mm0YTO+zXpXDEES9A4qcDHPQmM0MOnlP6EUx9AzklVMKt2u7Cxxmaug /ckVGf+ndIzTQ9AQEtF+1cVC6vAHLojOpUsReJrf3peEOBKMdyvRfUwazqFD2hUHF9hm Rtnw== f6mr10854921eem.91.1372374079659; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.152.135 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.152.135 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 16:01:19 -0700 (PDT) References: <51CCA6AB.5060009@wi.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 19:01:19 -0400 From: Trevor Jessie To: Billy Zoom , Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ugly Bug just got uglier ... thanks to Ms. Doe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Given how much noise and commotion the Sprite makes you'd think that wildlife would scatter for miles and mikes to escape it. On Jun 27, 2013 5:06 PM, "Billy Zoom" wrote: > > You don't have one of those JC Whitney deer whistles? > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/trevor.jessie@gmail.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 27 18:43:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 457D2403EA for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 18:43:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1EC740359 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 18:43:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004962.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r5S0Xima003070; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 17:43:56 -0700 Received: by dm0227.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d0476621) id dm0227.5192ebb1.75b5d1; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 17:43:05 -0700 From: "Bud Osbourne" To: "'Trevor Jessie'" , "'Spridgets'" References: Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 20:43:06 -0400 Thread-Index: AQLbmcg+8sKHIXNGKC9mHO3ScbG67Zcv+90g Content-Language: en-us engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-06-27_10:2013-06-27,2013-06-27,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1306270231 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Ugly Bug just got uglier ... thanks to Ms. Doe Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Glad to hear you and your daughter are OK! Deer vs. car collisions are known to sometimes be fatal to others besides the deer. Damn deer are probably the most stupid herbivores God put on this earth. I truly hate deer (I grew up on a farm and still live in the country). Bud -----Original Message----- From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Trevor Jessie Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 3:49 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Ugly Bug just got uglier ... thanks to Ms. Doe I was bringing my daughter home from camp "Hi-Ho" today when a deer decided to run in front of the car. Lucky for the deer I wasn't driving my SUV. The deer got it's rear legs clipped out from under it. We ducked as its hind quarters sailed over the top of the windscreen. It popped up and ran off (probably with a broken leg). The damage to the car was limited to the grill and nose. So it is now official: the car does not have a single straight panel on it. -Trevor ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 27 22:47:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0AE403F3 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 22:47:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3376740381 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 22:47:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tgh71l0040mv7h054gnB5W; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 04:47:11 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.9] ([75.65.249.164]) by omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tgnA1l00R3ZZswj3XgnBs8; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 04:47:11 +0000 From: Lester Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 23:47:09 -0500 References: <3AE5DC004BDD44C99D1BA506BBF3809B@HomeComputer> <597FA701C8B04EFE8A712B166B2D0353@spider> To: Spridget list s=q20121106; t=1372394831; bh=0PSK+WyOj2AXU3934H5DfS9laoTdE6beG7F+/FOIbQM=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=VfeWitrYJj4wYXd3rqAGSFmvrCnb1ADY2sjJkLKGKZetFdJgeYK3BFNEbwMvsp5dg qYEWOoKBrNzaaEhhoaF2v55Q60f2a/lMYqTBnXxzS+NGzYigyHgEmIYScnKkcT++ay DkUPBOa2q1hE1ZBvJP+fj9jGdh51vyhHqKw1Rk4TiLTnRncC2jv1Ud+vzVsNPYwv+f XoJeTS4CDx6HAmGQJ9ZON17apGymDbeASin+wt718XusSgWbto3JnFH8wvkFIp0N2u 0OiaiHucHne9y5aC6PJ+ifd2An0z+IABhWMoqPJNJOB3r4gF0WdVTYqqedsXrVR/dW xbYfwjdfBELIg== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NFI - 1967 Saab Sonnet ii - $2750 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Close.. the "Shrike" was an advertising name for the SAAB 96 2 stroke in '68. Yes, it had an 820cc (Down from 850cc) engine with a big yellow dot on it to verify that it was the small displacement engine. The Sonett (Model 97 ) in '67 was the 850 cc engine with some extra horses coaxed out of it with a triple carb, full web crank, dual fuel pumps, and I believe different porting. They don't weigh very much and are a real giggle to drive. And when properly set up with the right oil ratio/right oil they only smoke a little.. here's mine on the dyno: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzcP5vDdGrk Lester On Jun 26, 2013, at 8:17 PM, wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_Sonnett > > In the US, the two-stroke engine was called the 'Shrike' at that time. Its > displacement was reduced slightly, to 819 cc to avoid emission regulations > which exempted engines under 50 in3... > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_two-stroke > ================================================ > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Swanson > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:51 PM > To: spridgets@autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] NFI - 1967 Saab Sonnet ii - $2750 > > I stumbled across this on the Raleigh, NC craigslist and remembered races > Sonnets: > > http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3885920275.html > > This a restoration project has all parts (there are Saab sonnets out there > still) but this is one of 232 made) so worth a little more if you got the > time/connections and/or skills this is restoration project with a big > payback > http://www.nadaguides.com/Classic-Cars/1967/Saab/Sonett-II/2-Door-Sport-Coup > e/Values > Some one said they bought one already for 500.00, not this model, plus this > has all parts so no searching for stuff, just start cleaning and putting > back together(father started project before he passed) And the roll bar is > factory, these cars came SCCA race ready from the factory( The price is a > starting Point , not set in Stone) > > * Location: obo > * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial > interests > > Posting ID: 3885920275 > > Posted: 2013-06-21, 2:30PM > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis@peoplepc.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy@comcast.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jun 27 22:49:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AECE40520 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 22:49:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C776F40381 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2013 22:49:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.74]) by qmta06.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tgks1l0011c6gX856gpBik; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 04:49:11 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.9] ([75.65.249.164]) by omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tgpA1l00j3ZZswj3jgpBpp; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 04:49:11 +0000 From: Lester Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 23:49:10 -0500 References: <3AE5DC004BDD44C99D1BA506BBF3809B@HomeComputer> To: Spridget list s=q20121106; t=1372394951; bh=VovX55fep3vE7YWXSHfhAffF5bteiLnflr+kDAHHbj4=; h=Received:Received:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=j1kGhmTHEDFztqe4cqWf98FNREOrh0m004X9hbAzOyUsIXC0QbBAD+kZvtG7grjIa B1JHe9w6MDuKXf1K8yDpf6W/DrQy1nflux1JftfVg2IOoT+AIcqc8DUt2RonGHd9xP f6XOAeoqdKvODlE4obl5iVgGPKCUzCJbfkdgRTo3pZnbknAtlMr80mmAu7629ULeqK YNQbLYIxJIIT5R8ecwYMUJp2E4Qio5jfishDIGksTuUz+ppSmGkwXxqs1VQRekY8pz aMHbc1/aULfujKcWtr53eWWcYxW0UQ6eDpS0p8SxhOrQA9NPK6oVF1efQUCYAPpni6 Z5Jc2flKoqQrA== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NFI - 1967 Saab Sonnet ii - $2750 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Dean, if you are or anyone else is close I would sure like more info on that car.. Lester On Jun 26, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Dean Swanson wrote: > I stumbled across this on the Raleigh, NC craigslist and remembered races > Sonnets: ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 28 11:22:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355BE4044E for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:22:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm2-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm2-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.158]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72E6400A4 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 11:19:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.172] by nm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jun 2013 17:19:25 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.208] by tm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jun 2013 17:19:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jun 2013 17:19:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 41211 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Jun 2013 17:19:24 -0000 s=s1024; t=1372439964; bh=1tML0Nbif5KZCNzBkZ5Ssd4Cep822xfEOz7Td2aIEl4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gqk02WDY1nJhJ+i/uoAofy6SDrejHHUOFHLkjfRJJw4th3ZRinmtkDJxvVQuSAL/tkRS4e16n/Ud3zJVvtcn7ncb6KREQFM+JvjpwciLAp0vl7bikgskDbVg6l1lYDsh5m7zFMHwkxrEVrTPpGmt9t8JTekK5wAhUBcJDXCnSMA= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2OLvPYiTLXCbBxCHQgv8AJ0j+JJ+kZtTGdEc1w+nbdR7zfD7ABK5tn7iHfWMpUHm1iHJb7+le0qGk8PJYHzD3BjOwGwMTk6t5s71/iDW5i3St2/i11t01p6ZgLnwUxFLArpftmXvY+sYBeh8nKMPpJyhfd2jOgHNR5qQRETMFJ0=; Jf1kiBDaly.UC3.mcvtMEREVfeP.8JOq15xqkvlsUzEnbTsNOF5v1.vmU3Zt obRal83GaptmMyXbG31DUnw0n8FpIY9aQJCwCYNj6X2_.I1gK8nOC5T6VVkr qUluAmNhyxVtPbUvK.NGkzWKxyvn1XHMMzVMsD51uoRfafiSC_rCBJ6qgIYX Jfr0KIAqRR9bvHhVFpx5RTafM5Ycr2SuvAsna_wXvRJZJu03iRyn5x52xarb jf2GEcmJ0.dUbAfOi175zEMSPaarBgJm.eIxj3KqKpKS0bORF6TQf472dJ1v GSrzKcw5XmllTWubzpdyM6vxRz_D3hwR8sSUpoQUXxEFRm.tDzXj6VtG7Bxk _kaYUT4Kt2rCVs6S0Z38j5kxzm9fH36oGsBHoiqk4vvz5ReGQ.UxmIuGk4xr 4EJBKyjNMp1.NYikN1r89ihFl21wihNYWAZM2JPRWz88acB8E1aTgEAx547b RwtA517QvbNlYKzE10X2gCiXc8Zmlgg5TD3XxHRTWtQSrtBbJhWfDLgzqb65 HvkMPHwpLWuq9jwXa4l7UFUo7JDJ1SHIwE3l6wjBH97kCz3RiG.IPGZwxlIM UGIcw_NE5T6ildFzzZrUMdqfEP9U8DrU35zq1bofBuMLMgqqPH7xyRgEjgDr JReQFqXdv5QGaDSM4TTe8S1ZLNiqXCdnI.iKy3bGIDb9qEN9TOZxgyjc3B3x s5vp_4KVYSQMsIMy4aiv5hOlhg3ivwLUujAK7BlA182Ppkl_8k.Jvwiu9ZmV VYPnXLw7I4b_u3uCLkwvjXSKS.iSsOiQnGNclZx0qOdjrJE5HPMY3FbI.cjf 0rTNKO0jQqj8mBMM0xQNKlRROkWJ4s1d5IB1W6YMMJFm6N7YKIDNto6a5eWM A1fn5BGSgtOSUPuVbWJ9azYFYI6C3Ks_vEiBagV73jurKn_Ag0_scczNBNPx ZdJELOPdmhNs3Qnd8_Q0fQT1hbQnrf07OYCJRlfeWSceUwoJ66M1oGOddFvP c1DbIE.Xa9h06P4spTzpLUxfdOqVv9XHttbXmKqjB6PvaVnZytqsSAeSx6q6 fe.zdWlqe4oeeGPDmvWFfVM4i_szDdALQxHZX7HzHMGyH0_JbpmwCuus- Received: from [24.136.88.77] by web140404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:19:24 PDT wqANCklmIHlvdSBnbyB0byB0aGUgc25vdyBtb2JpbGUgMiBzdHJva2XCoHJhY2luZyBvaWwgbm90IGV2ZW4gYXMgbXVjaCBhcyBpbiB5b3VyIHBpY3R1cmUuDQpJIHJhbiB0aGUgc3R1ZmYgaW4gbXkgMyBjeWxpbmRlciAyIHN0cm9rZSBES1cgMz02DQpZb3UgY2FuIGN1dCBiYWNrIHRoZSByYXRpbyBvZiBvaWwgdG8gZ2FzIC0gSXQgd2lsbCBvbmx5IGdpdmUgYSBwdWZmIGF0IHN0YXJ0IHVwLg0KV2hhdCBtb3N0IHBlb3BsZSBkbyBub3QgcmVhbGl6ZSBpcyB0aGUgbmV3IHN5bnRoZXRpYyBvaWxzIHlvdSBjYW4BMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 10:19:24 -0700 (PDT) From: To: Lester , Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NFI - 1967 Saab Sonnet ii - $2750 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net If you go to the snow mobile 2 stroke racing oil not even as much as in your picture. I ran the stuff in my 3 cylinder 2 stroke DKW 3=6 You can cut back the ratio of oil to gas - It will only give a puff at start up. What most people do not realize is the new synthetic oils you can run leaner. Why? Because these cars was designed to put regular oil in the gas. Most 2 strokes had a mixing basket - you pour the oil in then gas up. later they went to an oil injection system. Vigil --- On Thu, 6/27/13, Lester wrote: From: Lester Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NFI - 1967 Saab Sonnet ii - $2750 To: "Spridget list" Date: Thursday, June 27, 2013, 9:47 PM Close.. the "Shrike" was an advertising name for the SAAB 96 2 stroke in '68. Yes, it had an 820cc (Down from 850cc) engine with a big yellow dot on it to verify that it was the small displacement engine. The Sonett (Model 97 ) in '67 was the 850 cc engine with some extra horses coaxed out of it with a triple carb, full web crank, dual fuel pumps, and I believe different porting. They don't weigh very much and are a real giggle to drive. And when properly set up with the right oil ratio/right oil they only smoke a little.. here's mine on the dyno: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzcP5vDdGrk Lester On Jun 26, 2013, at 8:17 PM, wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_Sonnett > > In the US, the two-stroke engine was called the 'Shrike' at that time. Its > displacement was reduced slightly, to 819 cc to avoid emission regulations > which exempted engines under 50 in3... > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_two-stroke > ================================================ > -----Original Message----- > From: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dean Swanson > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:51 PM > To: spridgets@autox.team.net > Subject: [Spridgets] NFI - 1967 Saab Sonnet ii - $2750 > > I stumbled across this on the Raleigh, NC craigslist and remembered races > Sonnets: > > http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/3885920275.html > > This a restoration project has all parts (there are Saab sonnets out there > still) but this is one of 232 made) so worth a little more if you got the > time/connections and/or skills this is restoration project with a big > payback > http://www.nadaguides.com/Classic-Cars/1967/Saab/Sonett-II/2-Door-Sport-Coup > e/Values > Some one said they bought one already for 500.00, not this model, plus this > has all parts so no searching for stuff, just start cleaning and putting > back together(father started project before he passed) And the roll bar is > factory, these cars came SCCA race ready from the factory( The price is a > starting Point , not set in Stone) > > * Location: obo > * it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial > interests > > Posting ID: 3885920275 > > Posted: 2013-06-21, 2:30PM > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/corvallis@peoplepc.com > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy@comcast.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/uniquelittlecars@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 28 12:22:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AC68400A5 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:22:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6769940338 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 12:15:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.74]) by qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ts171l0061c6gX85FuFnh2; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 18:15:47 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.9] ([75.65.249.164]) by omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id tuFm1l00f3ZZswj3juFmfa; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 18:15:47 +0000 From: Lester Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 13:15:46 -0500 To: Spridget list References: <1372439964.41108.YahooMailClassic@web140404.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> s=q20121106; t=1372443347; bh=FMpk0Ng094yz+VTUFhYmUut/ZWKrdr3JyeouZFepA7M=; h=Received:Received:From:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Subject:Date:To: Message-Id; b=mO8Mc6VlaP3QOthqDPPkEdE/NoSwoxVbcbqEOUE1IV6W6FXhVkHcumgvAe0NYL4f9 qp6SY0kLT+I/7QzAXaMme9/yhOaTJbT6tJqXYY0RWj6eaM3VTI7QbH4ELqrqVkx3oy /CBhf5+yQx8PJVqIIgz9NyH1CWGfqPyQDzviBFfGYXSKCnaljxY7N8G9nEZL4/1zqx yFoqcOf1vQJGUXi2Qjx5vI1fMS0z+XqGKUTU4E3XY7uBti87BKgxkGgY+FtaYwL7/M vxrgqSbr58ueZj5FRe/RruDCgA1VVvGFePfIlmnisIpzPOpmJZM09rTakBCh/wzlAd mOFE+JgYIYMbA== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NFI - 1967 Saab Sonnet ii - $2750 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net There are several good racing two stroke oils.. Silkolene is what I use and Amsoil I think makes one as well. No one other than the Bonneville guys want to run less oil.. it get's very expensive to see how little oil you can run. ;-) The Sonett has oil injection but not like a bike, there are actually passages cast into the block, one to each cylinder and one to each bearing and one more to the distributor gear IIRC and a neat pump that puts one tiny squirt for each revolution. And the smoke on that one came mainly from the dyno guys lugging it trying to get it up the ramp. After they failed a few times they let me drive it up there. You can hear and see when that finally burns off and the engine smooths out. Lester On Jun 28, 2013, at 12:19 PM, wrote: > > If you go to the snow mobile 2 stroke racing oil not even as much as in your picture. > I ran the stuff in my 3 cylinder 2 stroke DKW 3=6 > You can cut back the ratio of oil to gas - It will only give a puff at start up. > What most people do not realize is the new synthetic oils you can run leaner. > Why? Because these cars was designed to put regular oil in the gas. > Most 2 strokes had a mixing basket - you pour the oil in then gas up. > later they went to an oil injection system. > > Vigil ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 28 17:40:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66AC403F3 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 17:40:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13EBC403A8 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 17:34:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.177] by nm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jun 2013 23:34:08 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.56] by tm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jun 2013 23:34:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp207.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Jun 2013 23:34:08 -0000 s=s1024; t=1372462448; bh=/+2JpSBoXMXAtY+oXajLQROAkFzlgA4mblsmThNTP/I=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=xiYI5KsIElWIF+vMlN6AMjTQqwuEDW2f8fwKh1lIzKG3yYALGcG0dKRVFd9KLK0NsswGs5OR4FaBZMByMEctHyQkpyrpq+40YhYo0g8+STnZCLqFM0UufQap+cYTNcu+KdhWfvyALNcO3QKsoi3FernL6Pv1KcIApNb6rfQuRns= M8o91IB56hnHT_dC98XlcUwEZrWqHgL63HfLZsOez6yTfS.0Ubl.G0o4arhU mvlp4NrZenw_UFJWTyYlSr77bYeNBgK47owNQA6DXwSbShlGcSmVM3ID7SHU AtOokl7oYmJj6ZUX2e6Hf_eyg2qGum3ySb88DAM6bnbZjmtcjw_nDMGJXDAp pLU6HxKbA8fFB7YROWrAzR2UD16Wkv2.OnmjmoOk1GNngk3RtlmxfyOdpZRy CCJ8o4s5pFOLui4yxj1Hol9_EG09YdMnpBJ4KsRJPJlWOLYPC6U2gFXNrWML 7rW5fyNQ3r5LLG9AlL3xoSmC53kFBwnrwAMQC.a77_qPCJD58I3JstwQzICq A5cpZtEUH2ARV9EP83bs7GPNbEJcAMUAYz2lHNpBD39kZIVDJkih2sFGs_NT b_owW1IECRoOI.bXvR6swe5fxyq71IgpmdNtohQV63aLkYhtFcrSi_kiSh_A FkA9xdDNMNTkJRnRtK_05MuKW.ADhpPvaYDz6.rWUaSBSz8KXPyun5fSUGmi AZK2JRngPXozfu77PE3n.9bT7TwsMhDtAnV5.f66Wr2UNi3wnhpT2a934920 THZ848ncQ6HN4_PqjxkIte8LxniQ_6lv5IPDL5Ju6vUm0VcXDE68ATSQwStX YUZijaKFDSoewxIRP1add9qccmzVJ6crAmRT2B5jhdGj6AxSq7QLDvSu.NdC lfuR1HlMklh_Myx7HYGFc97H7Ww-- by smtp207.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 2013 16:34:08 -0700 PDT References: <00a501ce7145$8b8d52e0$a2a7f8a0$@hky.com> From: Ron Soave Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 18:34:06 -0500 To: Dean Hedin Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] anyone ever hear of a factory Mk I Sprite, w/boot/trunk lid? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Nice car they Generated, but I still Alternate on whether I like it. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2013, at 5:56 PM, "Dean Hedin" wrote: > There was this one at the 50th.. Father and his son did the conversion. > Real clean job, you would swear it was factory. > > http://s295.photobucket.com/user/brokencase_photos/media/jubilee/IMGP0773-01 > .jpg.html > > > BTW, they converted to wire wheels the "hard way" on this car, by cutting > all the half spring > fittings from a later wire wheel axle housing and then welding quarter > spring fittings to make it > go into the Bugeye. > > Can't remember their names, but the son's first name was Calan I believe. > They also did a nice safety upgrade presentation at the event. > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero@yahoo.com ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 28 19:35:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85FCE40404 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:35:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DE28403A8 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:35:32 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=t8uDdBgQ63cnNxUE8GHr9TYVzJub+uH3t7wCmsbASP70sv/JJfU4IY72RWTz9f0Z; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.40.135.119] (helo=HomeComputer) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Usk4Z-0002U6-OV for spridgets@autox.team.net; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 21:35:31 -0400 From: "Dean Swanson" To: Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 21:35:28 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac5zutVMHa8p6NjfTVi17LWSrpboPAArZYDg Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NFI - 1967 Saab Sonnet ii - $2750 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry - It's more then 1-1/2 hrs from me - In Warrenton, NC. Yes he has the title. It was disassembled in 2006 or there about his dad drove it where is sits and when he came back in 2009 to take care of his dad the pictures of it now is how he found it. -----Original Message----- From: Lester Dean, if you are or anyone else is close I would sure like more info on that car.. Lester On Jun 26, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Dean Swanson wrote: > I stumbled across this on the Raleigh, NC craigslist and remembered races > Sonnets: ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 28 19:58:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7924041A for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:58:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15E92403B2 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:54:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20130629015430.WPXV10143.mta41.charter.net@imp11> for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 21:54:30 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.114] ([75.134.176.130]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id u1uW1l00G2pAxSb051uWWa; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 21:54:30 -0400 a=Py4t3GyzpY5HiGdPXRMyTw==:17 a=1vQ2exFLrXYA:10 a=7Vtkk4Wg9cEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=4ycV2vTZAAAA:8 a=jts8Mp-cCPAA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=Y4smDxfCAAAA:8 a=DBhAbQ6WB-mL_GjzNAwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=Py4t3GyzpY5HiGdPXRMyTw==:117 References: <00a501ce7145$8b8d52e0$a2a7f8a0$@hky.com> <08FC6F28-8B0D-40D5-AF4B-458EBD5BD077@yahoo.com> From: Rick Fisk Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 21:54:31 -0400 To: "spridgets@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Spridgets] anyone ever hear of a factory Mk I Sprite, w/boot/trunk lid? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Ron, Did you hear the collective groan? (And Dean gnashing his teeth?). :-) Sent from my keyboard On Jun 28, 2013, at 7:34 PM, Ron Soave wrote: > Nice car they Generated, but I still Alternate on whether I like it. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jun 26, 2013, at 5:56 PM, "Dean Hedin" wrote: > >> There was this one at the 50th.. Father and his son did the conversion. >> Real clean job, you would swear it was factory. > http://s295.photobucket.com/user/brokencase_photos/media/jubilee/IMGP0773-01 >> .jpg.html >> >> >> BTW, they converted to wire wheels the "hard way" on this car, by cutting >> all the half spring >> fittings from a later wire wheel axle housing and then welding quarter >> spring fittings to make it >> go into the Bugeye. >> >> Can't remember their names, but the son's first name was Calan I believe. >> They also did a nice safety upgrade presentation at the event. >> ------------------------ ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jun 28 22:50:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97DA403B2 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 22:50:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF18C40322 for ; Fri, 28 Jun 2013 22:49:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id u4nU1l0010EZKEL514pykT; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 04:49:58 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.9] ([75.65.249.164]) by omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id u4px1l00j3ZZswj3M4py3H; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 04:49:58 +0000 From: Lester Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 23:49:57 -0500 References: <27E71F62C58949379F744AA2DD66826B@HomeComputer> To: Spridget list s=q20121106; t=1372481398; bh=qs4rtAciAbmD/qFXUFIsB8IPhV2iCSl7IR2rURXtcEM=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=cQZyNOqH3vt/W20vP4EzyUc+nRAXzgOhGYLHzPwGOeLGhBxCPLiwjFLDyfvT0P3vg WysiA4iue7uNTNKkr0o0COQENrp56nNvi6gwBgeyAOK5Dhor4MVODBQVGQT1+vUW1H iEuJedJI2USr36K90izSxetgjevP/RW0qWXe080ZDibS24ZYKP+9FGGTH4kghdXo8i msFBK8AlkhRrthtRDZKOErLsYwkPIEx4cU4sFaGF7O/Pq/UVxWj57gG5zOTobBDAZF FKvtJXClI+8tpxH/Ee0M/hHBZ0F+oYH4roGXgIMjGIZIjovy9z/qzr7fdMb1aa6s6C v5G/gfhEsg9MQ== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] NFI - 1967 Saab Sonnet ii - $2750 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net A SAAB guy I know checked the car out and spoke to the owner. He sent the VIN and now wants a lot for the car. As a car, not so much. As parts there are plenty there. I'm not interested in another rust repair project. I've seen some more pictures and it's going to need a LOT of work. Thanks for thinking of us poor SAAB folk. Keep those cards and letters coming! Lester On Jun 28, 2013, at 8:35 PM, Dean Swanson wrote: > Sorry - It's more then 1-1/2 hrs from me - In Warrenton, NC. Yes he has the > title. It was disassembled in 2006 or there about his dad drove it where is > sits and when he came back in 2009 to take care of his dad the pictures of > it now is how he found it. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lester > > Dean, if you are or anyone else is close I would sure like more info on that > car.. > > Lester > > > On Jun 26, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Dean Swanson wrote: > >> I stumbled across this on the Raleigh, NC craigslist and remembered races >> Sonnets: > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/oldsaabguy@comcast.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jun 29 01:21:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E380440424 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 01:21:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (omr-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91B6A40395 for ; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 01:17:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id CF1F07000008C; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 03:17:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dod001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dod001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.161.1]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A836BE000082; Sat, 29 Jun 2013 03:17:15 -0400 (EDT) From: WeslakeMonza1330@aol.com Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 03:17:15 -0400 (EDT) To: soavero@yahoo.com, dlh2001@comcast.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1372490235; bh=ktZPB9GkuVwm5y9+0kEk0YwwChpWj/1uJypB2mpqUeQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YCuoe+wQXqA/iZlJOSZHxk7IwIu2QpeniWNPR6LhIXp9b8TwWdxYA9CaYnvuPup7I hOLObnb+9T/Tm+8gHpEy3KRAnFJAci7gMwWg1VE7IhV21U6S8ivrow+EGNaOQgRLcj YjpeOn7budNE/t788MlzRJtnCkZsAIB6m3zZEmxw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c51ce89fb70b2 Cc: Spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] anyone ever hear of a factory Mk I Sprite, w/boot/trunk lid? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net That album brought back a bunch of memories! In a message dated 29/06/2013 00:40:27 GMT Daylight Time, soavero@yahoo.com writes: Nice car they Generated, but I still Alternate on whether I like it. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2013, at 5:56 PM, "Dean Hedin" wrote: > There was this one at the 50th.. Father and his son did the conversion. > Real clean job, you would swear it was factory. > > http://s295.photobucket.com/user/brokencase_photos/media/jubilee/IMGP0773-01 > .jpg.html > > > BTW, they converted to wire wheels the "hard way" on this car, by cutting > all the half spring > fittings from a later wire wheel axle housing and then welding quarter > spring fittings to make it > go into the Bugeye. > > Can't remember their names, but the son's first name was Calan I believe. > They also did a nice safety upgrade presentation at the event. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jun 30 16:25:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3DD24051D for ; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 16:25:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C7C40355; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 16:24:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DED6A1419; Sun, 30 Jun 2013 16:24:12 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2013 16:24:11 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1 To: healeys@Autox.Team.Net, Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] Team.Net update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Finally! Many years after the switch from majordomo to mailman, the web page http://www.team.net/tn-mail.html finally has current, useable information. Imagine that! It is just a start, though, there is SO much more to update on the site. But with record breaking heat here in Salt Lake City I'd rather be in my cool basement dungeon than out in the very warm garage, perhaps updating Team.Net will be happening at more than a glacial pace. mjb. ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive