What happens when you 'idle it up' (adjust idle sc= rew)?=C2=A0 Perhaps it's just set too low to idle.

W= hat psi range does the pump run? =C2=A01.5 to 3.5 is good for these carbs, = right.

Chance of rust/junk in fuel lines, getting = into the carb & jets?

No vacuum leaks...right?=

Herb=C2=A0

On Sat, Oct 24= , 2015 at 1:27 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.t= eam.net> wrote:

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 To= ok the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight.=C2=A0 Could not get it to idle.= As soon as I took my foot off the gas it would die.=C2=A0 I recently had a= problem with the ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after leav= ing it sit in the garage for a few months without starting it.=C2=A0 I inst= alled a new Facet fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constantly b= ehind me like the tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gauge it = had at least a 1/4 tank left.=C2=A0 As long as I kept my foot in it and did= not stop anywhere, it ran like a scalded cat.=C2=A0 That new 1275 that I i= nstalled a few thousand miles ago is finally breaking in.=C2=A0 I was going= to replace the fuel tank. (I have a new one ready to paint and install), b= ut I got it running by draining the old ethanol laced gas and filling the t= ank with 100 octane ethanol free gas.=C2=A0 I thought I cleaned the fuel sy= stem out of the ethanol.=C2=A0 It ran great for a while. It did die a coupl= e of times, but started right up again and would idle, now I have to keep r= evving the throttle at the stop light to keep it running.=C2=A0 I hate this= Kalifornia gas.
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--089e01229c143022440522e4dad2-- --===============4995940200017496214== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4995940200017496214==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 25 02:16:12 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3212585A38 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 02:16:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (fed1rmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FB932585536 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 02:08:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo110 ([68.230.241.159]) by fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20151025080848.NPWU10284.fed1rmfepo201.cox.net@fed1rmimpo110> for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 04:08:48 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.4] ([72.197.201.36]) by fed1rmimpo110 with cox id ZL8o1r00C0ndRGw01L8oYK; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 04:08:48 -0400 a=J43Q6Td6erY7i7ogEnARIg==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=HHVr4oMXRzFwvHVjSHsA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=C4Gx4-TcMRUY95BqhooA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=J43Q6Td6erY7i7ogEnARIg==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=stargazer1@cox.net To: spridgets@autox.team.net References: <1994038044.1996387.1445675253032.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <1994038044.1996387.1445675253032.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 01:08:48 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Won't Idle From: David Ambrose via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============7904297097472794648== boundary="------------090305050908000301070607" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090305050908000301070607 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The facet pumps give a constant tap tap tap when running regardless of whether they've got fuel or not. It's pretty annoying especially if you solid mounted the pump. I'm thinking about going back to an SU pump for this reason. Newer fuel hose is formulated to resist the ethanol in the gas. The first thing I'd look for is a vacuum line that's come loose; PCV valve and distributor vacuum advance. Dave Ambrose On 10/24/2015 1:27 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: > Took the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight. Could not get it > to idle. As soon as I took my foot off the gas it would die. I > recently had a problem with the ethanol in the gas plugging up the > fuel system after leaving it sit in the garage for a few months > without starting it. I installed a new Facet fuel pump, but I can > hear the new pump going constantly behind me like the tank is almost > empty, but according to the fuel gauge it had at least a 1/4 tank > left. As long as I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhere, it > ran like a scalded cat. That new 1275 that I installed a few thousand > miles ago is finally breaking in. I was going to replace the fuel > tank. (I have a new one ready to paint and install), but I got it > running by draining the old ethanol laced gas and filling the tank > with 100 octane ethanol free gas. I thought I cleaned the fuel system > out of the ethanol. It ran great for a while. It did die a couple of > times, but started right up again and would idle, now I have to keep > revving the throttle at the stop light to keep it running. I hate > this Kalifornia gas. > Mike MacLean > 60 Sprite > 56 BN2 > > > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/stargazer1@cox.net --------------090305050908000301070607 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

The facet pumps give a constant tap tap tap when running regardless of whether they've got fuel or not. It's pretty annoying especially if you solid mounted the pump. I'm thinking about going back to an SU pump for this reason. Newer fuel hose is formulated to resist the ethanol in the gas.

The first thing I'd look for is a vacuum line that's come loose; PCV valve and distributor vacuum advance.

Dave Ambrose

On 10/24/2015 1:27 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote:

�� Took the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight.� Could not get it to idle. As soon as I took my foot off the gas it would die.� I recently had a problem with the ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after leaving it sit in the garage for a few months without starting it.� I installed a new Facet fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constantly behind me like the tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gauge it had at least a 1/4 tank left.� As long as I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhere, it ran like a scalded cat.� That new 1275 that I installed a few thousand miles ago is finally breaking in.� I was going to replace the fuel tank. (I have a new one ready to paint and install), but I got it running by draining the old ethanol laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane ethanol free gas.� I thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the ethanol.� It ran great for a while. It did die a couple of times, but started right up again and would idle, now I have to keep revving the throttle at the stop light to keep it running.� I hate this Kalifornia gas.

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Were fuel lines blocked the pump would sto= p running as it would be up to pressure. =C2=A0=C2=A0It is obviously someth= ing that has happened fairly quickly as it is presumed it happened during t= he journey and it was ticking over OK (albeit with the choke on) when you l= eft the house. =C2=A0As it runs OK at higher revs this may suggest it is NO= T a blockage problem. =C2=A0 Guy R Day =20 =20 On Sunday, 25 October 2015, 2:46, WFO Herb via Spridgets wrote: =20 What happens when you 'idle it up' (adjust idle screw)?=C2=A0 Perhaps it's= just set too low to idle. What psi range does the pump run? =C2=A01.5 to 3.5 is good for these carbs,= right. Chance of rust/junk in fuel lines, getting into the carb & jets? No vacuum leaks...right? Herb=C2=A0 On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Took the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight.=C2= =A0 Could not get it to idle. As soon as I took my foot off the gas it woul= d die.=C2=A0 I recently had a problem with the ethanol in the gas plugging = up the fuel system after leaving it sit in the garage for a few months with= out starting it.=C2=A0 I installed a new Facet fuel pump, but I can hear th= e new pump going constantly behind me like the tank is almost empty, but ac= cording to the fuel gauge it had at least a 1/4 tank left.=C2=A0 As long as= I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhere, it ran like a scalded cat.= =C2=A0 That new 1275 that I installed a few thousand miles ago is finally b= reaking in.=C2=A0 I was going to replace the fuel tank. (I have a new one r= eady to paint and install), but I got it running by draining the old ethano= l laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane ethanol free gas.=C2=A0 I = thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the ethanol.=C2=A0 It ran great fo= r a while. It did die a couple of times, but started right up again and wou= ld idle, now I have to keep revving the throttle at the stop light to keep = it running.=C2=A0 I hate this Kalifornia gas.Mike MacLean60 Sprite56 BN2 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive 0@gmail.com --=20 The only people=C2=A0worth getting even with are those who have helped you.= =C2=A0- =C2=A0Anonymous Here is an Important Message for anyone who receives this email:=C2=A0 If y= ou forward this correspondence, PLEASE DELETE THE FORWARDING HISTORY, which= includes my email address!=C2=A0 It is a courtesy to me and others who may= not wish to have their email addresses sent all over the world!=C2=A0 Eras= ing the history helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses fr= om being propagated!=C2=A0 IT ALSO PROTECTS YOU. No trees were harmed in the creation of this email, though numerous electro= ns were horribly inconvenienced. 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Michael= , you have had suggestions of:-

Float adjustment

Fuel Pressure

Idle s= crew adjustment

Semi bl= ocked or blocked lines (add filters)

Vacuum leaks

Just to round things off I'll add

ignition timing.

Dashpot oil

<= div id=3D"yiv3864422167yui_3_16_0_1_1445760566878_3076">Clogged up poppet valve

As it was running after you cleared the fuel lines = last time and the pump sounds to be running at all times it raises the ques= tion of where is all that pumped fuel going to? Thi= s may suggest a problem with the float operated shut off valve. Were fuel l= ines blocked the pump would stop running as it would be up to pressure. &nb= sp;

It is obviously some= thing that has happened fairly quickly as it is presumed it happened during= the journey and it was ticking over OK (albeit with the choke on) when you= left the house. As it runs OK at higher revs this may suggest it is = NOT a blockage problem.

Guy R Day

On Sunday, 25 October 2015, 2:46, WFO Her= b via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
=

What happens when you 'idle it up= ' (adjust idle screw)? Perhaps it's just set too low to idle.

What psi range does the pump run? 1.5 to 3= .5 is good for these carbs, right.

= Chance of rust/junk in fuel lines, getting into the carb & jets?

<= div>

N= o vacuum leaks...right?

Herb <= /div>

On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Michael MacLean v= ia Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

&nbs= p; Took the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight. Could not get it to = idle. As soon as I took my foot off the gas it would die. I recently = had a problem with the ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after= leaving it sit in the garage for a few months without starting it. I= installed a new Facet fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constan= tly behind me like the tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gaug= e it had at least a 1/4 tank left. As long as I kept my foot in it an= d did not stop anywhere, it ran like a scalded cat. That new 1275 tha= t I installed a few thousand miles ago is finally breaking in. I was = going to replace the fuel tank. (I have a new one ready to paint and instal= l), but I got it running by draining the old ethanol laced gas and filling = the tank with 100 octane ethanol free gas. I thought I cleaned the fu= el system out of the ethanol. It ran great for a while. It did die a = couple of times, but started right up again and would idle, now I have to k= eep revving the throttle at the stop light to keep it running. I hate= this Kalifornia gas.
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60 Sprite
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They keep right o= n banging along. It's not a "tick" like an SU pump either - very annoying. Sent from my keyboard > On Oct 25, 2015, at 4:54 AM, GUY DAY via Spridgets wrote: >=20 > Michael, you have had suggestions of:- > Float adjustment > Fuel Pressure > Idle screw adjustment > Semi blocked or blocked lines (add filters) > Vacuum leaks >=20 > Just to round things off I'll add=20 > ignition timing. > Dashpot oil > Clogged up poppet valve >=20 > As it was running after you cleared the fuel lines last time and the pump s= ounds to be running at all times it raises the question of where is all tha= t pumped fuel going to? This may suggest a problem with the float operated s= hut off valve. Were fuel lines blocked the pump would stop running as it wou= ld be up to pressure. =20 > It is obviously something that has happened fairly quickly as it is presum= ed it happened during the journey and it was ticking over OK (albeit with th= e choke on) when you left the house. As it runs OK at higher revs this may s= uggest it is NOT a blockage problem. =20 >=20 > Guy R Day >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sunday, 25 October 2015, 2:46, WFO Herb via Spridgets wrote: >=20 >=20 > What happens when you 'idle it up' (adjust idle screw)? Perhaps it's just= set too low to idle. >=20 > What psi range does the pump run? 1.5 to 3.5 is good for these carbs, rig= ht. >=20 > Chance of rust/junk in fuel lines, getting into the carb & jets? >=20 > No vacuum leaks...right? >=20 > Herb=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote: > Took the Bugeye out to run an errand tonight. Could not get it to id= le. As soon as I took my foot off the gas it would die. I recently had a pr= oblem with the ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after leaving i= t sit in the garage for a few months without starting it. I installed a new= Facet fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constantly behind me lik= e the tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gauge it had at least a= 1/4 tank left. As long as I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhere, i= t ran like a scalded cat. That new 1275 that I installed a few thousand mil= es ago is finally breaking in. I was going to replace the fuel tank. (I hav= e a new one ready to paint and install), but I got it running by draining th= e old ethanol laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane ethanol free ga= s. I thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the ethanol. It ran great fo= r a while. It did die a couple of times, but started right up again and woul= d idle, now I have to keep revving the throttle at the stop light to keep it= running. 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Facet brand pumps don't stop running w= hen up to pressure. They keep right on banging along. It's not a= "tick" like an SU pump either - very annoying.

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On Oct 25, 2015, at 4:54 AM, GUY DAY via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote= :

Michael, y= ou have had suggestions of:-
Float adjustment
Fuel= Pressure
Idle screw adju= stment
= Semi blocked or bl= ocked lines (add filters)
Vacuum leaks

Just to round things off I'll add
ignition timing.
Dashpot oil
Clogged up poppet valve

As i= t was running after you cleared the fuel lines last time and the pump sounds= to be running at all times it raises the question of wher= e is all that pumped fuel going to? This may suggest a problem with th= e float operated shut off valve. Were fuel lines blocked the pump would stop= running as it would be up to pressure.
It is obviously something that has happened fairly quic= kly as it is presumed it happened during the journey and it was ticking over= OK (albeit with the choke on) when you left the house. As it runs OK a= t higher revs this may suggest it is NOT a blockage problem.

Guy R Day

On Sunday, 25 October 20= 15, 2:46, WFO Herb via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

What happens when you 'idle it up' (adjust idle s= crew)? Perhaps it's just set too low to idle.

<= /div>
What psi range does the pump run? 1.5 to 3.5 is good for the= se carbs, right.

Chance of rust/junk= in fuel lines, getting into the carb & jets?

No vacuum leaks...righ= t?

Herb

= On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:27 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets <sprid= gets@autox.team.net> wrote:
Took the Bugeye out to run an erran= d tonight. Could not get it to idle. As soon as I took my foot off the= gas it would die. I recently had a problem with the ethanol in the ga= s plugging up the fuel system after leaving it sit in the garage for a few m= onths without starting it. I installed a new Facet fuel pump, but I ca= n hear the new pump going constantly behind me like the tank is almost empty= , but according to the fuel gauge it had at least a 1/4 tank left. As l= ong as I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhere, it ran like a scalded= cat. That new 1275 that I installed a few thousand miles ago is final= ly breaking in. I was going to replace the fuel tank. (I have a new on= e ready to paint and install), but I got it running by draining the old etha= nol laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane ethanol free gas. I= thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the ethanol. It ran great fo= r a while. It did die a couple of times, but started right up again and woul= d idle, now I have to keep revving the throttle at the stop light to keep it= running. I hate this Kalifornia gas.
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Some Facet pumps do run all the time and sound like it - simply a fac= t of=20 its design.

Have you adjusted the idle screw?

What idle rpm are you expecting?

Is the vacuum advance on the distributor compatible with a single car= b=20 installation (rather than twin carbs on a twin carb manifold).

Regards

Daniel

In a message dated 24/10/2015 17:42:38 GMT Standard Time,=20 spridgets@autox.team.net writes:

Since the fue= l pump=20 is constantly running, I=E2=80=99ll guess that it is flooding out at idl= e.=20

Look at your= spark=20 plugs.

If they=E2=80= =99re not wet or=20 sooted up, look for a loose carb at the intake manifold. Bill in= =20 Oregon

From:<= /SPAN>=20 Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael MacLean via= =20 Spridgets
Sent: Satur= day,=20 October 24, 2015 1:28 AM
To:=20 Spridgets Net
Subject:=20 [Spridgets] Won't Idle

Took th= e Bugeye=20 out to run an errand tonight. Could not get it to idle. As soon as= I=20 took my foot off the gas it would die. I recently had a problem wi= th the=20 ethanol in the gas plugging up the fuel system after leaving it sit in= the=20 garage for a few months without starting it. I installed a new Fac= et=20 fuel pump, but I can hear the new pump going constantly behind me like= the=20 tank is almost empty, but according to the fuel gauge it had at least a= 1/4=20 tank left. As long as I kept my foot in it and did not stop anywhe= re, it=20 ran like a scalded cat. That new 1275 that I installed a few thous= and=20 miles ago is finally breaking in. I was going to replace the fuel= tank.=20 (I have a new one ready to paint and install), but I got it running by= =20 draining the old ethanol laced gas and filling the tank with 100 octane= =20 ethanol free gas. I thought I cleaned the fuel system out of the= =20 ethanol. It ran great for a while. It did die a couple of times,= but=20 started right up again and would idle, now I have to keep revving the th= rottle=20 at the stop light to keep it running. I hate this Kalifornia=20 gas.

M= ike=20 MacLean

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Yep, on a lot of Facet pumps you need to also run a pressure regulato= r but=20 if the carb is dieing rather than idling I doubt that's the problem. = =20 Remember if the car runs fuel air ratio from between 11:1 and 18:1 it can= cope=20 with 5:1 when the choke is out and the engine is cold but doesn't die on= =20 idle.

Regards

Daniel

In a message dated 25/10/2015 01:01:38 GMT Standard Time,=20 spridgets@autox.team.net writes:

Check the fue= l=20 pressure. There are different =E2=80=98sizes=E2=80=99 of electronic fuel= pumps for engines;=20 higher volume for larger engines may mean too much pressure for a=20 4-banger. Bill in Oregon
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Facet pumps do run at all times and are noisy. I've conne= cted a=20 pressure gauge to a regulator, fed with a Facet pump and with NO OUTLET fo= r the=20 fuel and the pump sounds just the same as when the engine is running. = ;=20

A facet pump will run faster when its pumping a vast amount of fuel= (like=20 pumping out the fuel tank to a jerry can for example) than when the engine= is=20 running normal.

Regards

Daniel

In a message dated 25/10/2015 09:02:00 GMT Standard Time,=20 spridgets@autox.team.net writes:
and the pump sounds to be running at all times it= raises=20 the question of where is all that pumped fuel going=20 to?
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PGJyPgogIDwvYm9keT48L2h0bWw+ ----_com.android.email_569225056869170-- --===============5171614350406628525== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5171614350406628525==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 25 11:49:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E0E2585BC4 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 11:49:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth14.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth14.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CCED25856DD for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 11:41:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [67.170.132.228] (helo=spider) by smtpauth14.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1ZqPJK-00060C-NI for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 13:42:26 -0400 To: References: Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 10:42:22 -0700 Thread-Index: AdEPS4zShYqf3NgyTkOZ2n9IgQjXigAAG+hA Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Won't Idle From: corvallis--- via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1903505661643213768== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0030_01D10F11.D56CE800" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01D10F11.D56CE800 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Blue smoke: Rings take time to seat in; maybe google the subject for a quick read. An intermittent problem (dying at idle) can be the worst to trouble shoot; be mentally ready. Bill in Oregon _____ From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rrengineer.mike via Spridgets Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 10:26 AM To: David Ambrose; spridgets@autox.team.net Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Won't Idle As I said, the next day the car ran normal. Go figure. The vacuum advance line was still intact. Everything is mounted tightly. You tell me why it decided to do this just one time. My only other concern is constant blue smoke from the tail pipe on a relatively new engine. Have to find out if is rings or valve guide seals. Gerard built the short block and knowing his meticulous building skill, I am leaning towards the valve seals/guides. Why couldn't I be into 240 Z cars or Porsche instead of these quirky loveable Brit cars? Mike MacLean ------=_NextPart_000_0030_01D10F11.D56CE800 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Blue smoke: Rings take time to seat = in; maybe google the subject for a quick read.

An intermittent problem (dying at = idle) can be the worst to trouble shoot; be mentally ready. Bill in Oregon

From: = Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rrengineer.mike via Spridgets
Sent: Sunday, October 25, = 2015 10:26 AM
To: David Ambrose; = spridgets@autox.team.net
Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] = Won't Idle

As I said, the next day the car ran normal. = Go figure. The vacuum advance line was still intact. Everything = is mounted tightly. You tell me why it decided to do this just one = time. My only other concern is constant blue smoke from = the tail pipe on a relatively new engine. Have to find out if is rings or = valve guide seals. Gerard built the short block and knowing his = meticulous building skill, I am leaning towards the valve seals/guides. =

Why couldn't I be into 240 Z cars or Porsche instead of these quirky loveable Brit cars?

Mike MacLean

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inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============7276668671499701919==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 25 17:40:41 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF5A72585930 for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 17:40:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth14.mail.atl.earthlink.net (smtpauth14.mail.atl.earthlink.net [209.86.89.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B6A625856DA for ; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 17:40:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [67.170.132.228] (helo=spider) by smtpauth14.mail.atl.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1ZqUui-0003pa-PL for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sun, 25 Oct 2015 19:41:25 -0400 To: References: Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 16:41:20 -0700 Thread-Index: AdEPd9kzwTUCBn9PTYe5r+/PULK2FQABrr0g Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Won't Idle From: corvallis--- via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1317954641414382817== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01D10F43.FAA9EA00" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01D10F43.FAA9EA00 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit http://www.ntnoa.org/enginebreakin.htm _____ From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rrengineer.mike via Spridgets Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 3:50 PM To: Bill L; spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Won't Idle That sounds about right. How long does it usually take to seat rings? Mike MacLean Sent via the Samsung GALAXY SR 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01D10F43.FAA9EA00 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

http://www.ntnoa.org/engi= nebreakin.htm

From: = Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rrengineer.mike via Spridgets
Sent: Sunday, October 25, = 2015 3:50 PM
To: Bill L; = spridgets@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] = Won't Idle

That sounds about right. How long does it usually take to = seat rings?

Mike MacLean

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------=_NextPart_000_001D_01D10F43.FAA9EA00-- --===============1317954641414382817== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1317954641414382817==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 27 12:50:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F5425850CB for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:50:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo101.cox.net (eastrmfepo101.cox.net [68.230.241.213]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB72E2584F87 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:50:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo210 ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20151027185057.PTDE6625.eastrmfepo101.cox.net@eastrmimpo210> for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:50:57 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([98.161.59.133]) by eastrmimpo210 with cox id aJqw1r00S2sUWTm01JqxcM; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:50:57 -0400 a=Yr9gTcO+oD8Gu1YXpZj4MA==:17 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=DjXDa2klYwfChY7p_8kA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Yr9gTcO+oD8Gu1YXpZj4MA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none To: Spridget list Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:50:57 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.2.0 Subject: [Spridgets] 2 sprite engines From: John O'Brien via Spridgets Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Spridget List: I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape. I think it's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc. Does this engine have any value to anyone? if so, what would it be worth? It is located in Bellevue, NE, and also has the smoothcase tranny. I also have a 1098 that had been installed in the car when I bought it. It ran fine when I removed it and can be turned by hand. I replaced it with a 1275 years ago and it is taking up space. It is missing a couple external parts but is mostly complete, have the exhaust manifold also, but no carb. set, since I moved it to the 1275. Same location, What should it be worth? Anyone looking for either of these? Thanks John O'Brien '61 bugeye "Lucy" '65 BJ8 "Madelyn" ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 27 13:08:08 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C0325850A6 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:08:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8928A258509A for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:08:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wijp11 with SMTP id p11so228586182wij.0 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:08:54 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=4gazlD7WatDRxNHnnAzz9vkSckyH+N1ykPKIDAZf4Bk=; b=ddYfP5Ld7xgOXoW2a9oGNxMcYWJeELZ7V1//9NbNH+wGugw3MvKthgAUDL5ah4H0wF +Xp2C1q3cuoAEGVpQXpz8hTRzPR5sKx89vb1J63uL1VsqfAaauHLoEgma9NxP5hbcs1H EIVTt0q3i32PlB+djXsIWcZzBX4qjYN5BrweXvSzhvMv8oflqXvbbCX61Ak+8HRKMBst 0NQe5K8KAE/vYbkYXiWw23SXHOSb78kgDfQ4g3ix3+xYHF96iDb43I01/pJl4AABVWCD hwBgTNijeCg6A1dV9qAyJfXDhBh2cmZVJOKYEJDzoPur2fW4oK484v+XxhixMRWY/pVQ bi4w== Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.27.108.23 with HTTP; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 12:08:54 -0700 (PDT) References: <562FC791.6070603@cox.net> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:08:54 -0500 To: "John O'Brien" Cc: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2 sprite engines From: derf via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5105965670691717710== --047d7bea3792190e5405231acf93 Someone would want them. I don't think there's much profit to be made. Maybe donate them to a racer buddy or trade them for something nifty? On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:50 PM, John O'Brien via Spridgets < spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote: > Hi Spridget List: > I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape. I think > it's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc. Does this engine have > any value to anyone? if so, what would it be worth? It is located in > Bellevue, NE, and also has the smoothcase tranny. > I also have a 1098 that had been installed in the car when I bought it. > It ran fine when I removed it and can be turned by hand. I replaced it > with a 1275 years ago and it is taking up space. It is missing a couple > external parts but is mostly complete, have the exhaust manifold also, but > no carb. set, since I moved it to the 1275. Same location, What should it > be worth? Anyone looking for either of these? > > Thanks > John O'Brien > '61 bugeye "Lucy" > '65 BJ8 "Madelyn" > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247@gmail.com > --047d7bea3792190e5405231acf93 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Someone would want them.=C2=A0 I don't think there'= ;s much profit to be made.=C2=A0 Maybe donate them to a racer buddy or trad= e them for something nifty?

=
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:50 PM, John O'= Brien via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:=
Hi Spridget List:
I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape.=C2=A0 I thin= k it's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc.=C2=A0 Does this en= gine have any value to anyone?=C2=A0 if so, what would it be worth?=C2=A0 I= t is located in Bellevue, NE, and also has the smoothcase tranny.
I also have a 1098 that had been installed in the car when I bought it.=C2= =A0 It ran fine when I removed it and can be turned by hand.=C2=A0 I replac= ed it with a 1275 years ago and it is taking up space.=C2=A0 It is missing = a couple external parts but is mostly complete, have the exhaust manifold a= lso, but no carb. set, since I moved it to the 1275. Same location,=C2=A0 W= hat should it be worth?=C2=A0 Anyone looking for either of these?

Thanks
John O'Brien
'61 bugeye "Lucy"
'65 BJ8 "Madelyn"
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--047d7bea3792190e5405231acf93-- --===============5105965670691717710== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5105965670691717710==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 27 13:09:40 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B241258546B for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:09:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56F7025850BB for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:09:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home (ool-2f14ccc0.dyn.optonline.net [47.20.204.192]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0NWW004VJ7X02FD0@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 15:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 15:09:44 -0400 To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Backwards battery From: Michael Rowe via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============1752854693922822848== boundary="Boundary_(ID_fJn6waHETrloRRLUm4LuCQ)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_fJn6waHETrloRRLUm4LuCQ) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Even more weird: As I mentioned, I have been away for three months and don't remember what I did before. I have checked the wiring converting from generator to alternator, which appears to agree with instructions. Here is a repeatable sequence: 1. Battery tests normal. Ignition switch tests normal. Red light indicates power out from + terminal to ground at engine. 2. Close battery cut-off switch (on + terminal). All circuits test normal all the way to the ignition switch input. 3. Engage ignition switch. Pump and interior lights go on briefly, then die = something heating up. 4. Now, there is no power anywhere at the switch. 5. Battery shows no power out from the + terminal, green test light shows power in at the - terminal from ground at engine to ground at battery. 6. All returns to the original condition when it cools. 7. I assume this is a short to ground problem somewhere. Where is this backflow coming from? !@#$%^ Michael Rowe --Boundary_(ID_fJn6waHETrloRRLUm4LuCQ) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Even more weird:

As I mentioned, I have been away for three months and don't remember what I did before. I have checked the wiring converting from generator to alternator, which appears to agree with instructions. Here is a repeatable sequence:

1. Battery tests normal. Ignition switch tests normal. Red light indicates power out from + terminal to ground at engine.

2. Close battery cut-off switch (on + terminal). All circuits test normal all the way to the ignition switch input.

3. Engage ignition switch. Pump and interior lights go on briefly, then die = something heating up.

4. Now, there is no power anywhere at the switch.

5. Battery shows no power out from the + terminal, green test light shows power in at the - terminal from ground at engine to ground at battery.

6. All returns to the original condition when it cools.

7. I assume this is a short to ground problem somewhere. Where is this backflow coming from?

!@#$%^

Michael Rowe
--Boundary_(ID_fJn6waHETrloRRLUm4LuCQ)-- --===============1752854693922822848== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1752854693922822848==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 27 13:11:53 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9B52584FD4 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:11:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.246]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A2B2584DC8 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 13:11:49 -0600 (MDT) t=1445973158; bh=tqtLDFEOZqbbQhVgzbAzI+1BFy8hZto0LRFBVrrMubc=; h=Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To:From:Subject; b=ULF3t1/t4gZOyhvNe3h1PyPqWl+O0MC4o3d8SasR3pKmUAConhs89CgsX3Igx3EOaFOUaTkOwO/QtMa/omTkOfT1jWDNltheCXJg4Jp2pXGBzxb/iFcyYMSLW4vxSqCOgkAZsWXSOYUsXAIbKqtGQ0d7m7eth6B9K/EkLoZb5wDb27GbgHKiuTJagB6SHWpPXo2esPyixdHwAZ90/ElvZFSVfiU1fy6k72GwVQrOSECTHhtdsc7WmeeV74JTnM1lCEQRAMD8E+CZNepX6VKg5BzsF9e3+8FSpQz/fTX5lR17AP+++eR0bY+ApFMP3Dh9nyZqeC14wy1sOgnYrHTVIQ== Received: from [98.138.100.115] by nm24.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2015 19:12:38 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.39] by tm106.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2015 19:12:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp107.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2015 19:12:38 -0000 Invgpvzd5T8PQMBD04HJ7CEER1HwzuwCsfAFo.vnbSzu2tzuwaWnBOfWElHM ys9ZNyAsBF0.JepKsBe50F80oDbOhIQdPRQNkTDtu8ldkawGr983w0sI3Q3b H_lqxn.7KcAxue2mFfBZ3zX8oyvjm91zaR5xoLUkxZ4XpcuZmLSgFdQ9kvIG WWqpTrJ98Uu_vaa135ZOShP_8xX4t4zg4v_oBV3ZCHRosfiEqXQ7jfp2FKzV lWqKN3RCWMehslLHb7WZ6Dz_2whGUeVRCDHn3M8ry.lUIBMdO3RUpT3CHv0P R3uZTBJk72aQ6.l70TBJLJ6vsWhG4utILnoiVuVETRMahwc.6DtgI25uOGE0 OUtq3SbJKw7eLOD2Kk3j7tQei2lDLBFz0Ixp2dtp1r1BDj.LaByiMGQBICc. fg8gI04U24ETO7GrhWPpUkAwthasFQl4dof520qScSRK8rybXb624IyOpmby 7VXo.td96tEVTdybJCKIjA5WJPgaDX8SaWGUPURknnZyN5zM2wg8- Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 14:12:37 -0500 References: <562FC791.6070603@cox.net> To: derf Cc: Spridget list Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2 sprite engines From: Ron Soave via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7836614327001123952== boundary=Apple-Mail-C2E37B3B-297C-47C7-A3E6-83DC9D692466 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-C2E37B3B-297C-47C7-A3E6-83DC9D692466 charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree, Derf. I didn't want to piss on anyone's Wheaties, but that sounds l= ike many of the parts I've given away over the past few years. To one hearty= soul who took a 948 and 2 heads from me, I donated an engine stand as well.= =20 Ron Soave Pay it forward It only goes one way > On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:08 PM, derf via Spridgets = wrote: >=20 > Someone would want them. I don't think there's much profit to be made. M= aybe donate them to a racer buddy or trade them for something nifty? >=20 >=20 >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:50 PM, John O'Brien via Spridgets wrote: >> Hi Spridget List: >> I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape. I think i= t's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc. Does this engine have any= value to anyone? if so, what would it be worth? It is located in Bellevue= , NE, and also has the smoothcase tranny. >> I also have a 1098 that had been installed in the car when I bought it. I= t ran fine when I removed it and can be turned by hand. I replaced it with a= 1275 years ago and it is taking up space. It is missing a couple external p= arts but is mostly complete, have the exhaust manifold also, but no carb. se= t, since I moved it to the 1275. Same location, What should it be worth? A= nyone looking for either of these? >>=20 >> Thanks >> John O'Brien >> '61 bugeye "Lucy" >> '65 BJ8 "Madelyn" >> ------------------------ >>=20 >> spridgets@autox.team.net >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>=20 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf2= 47@gmail.com >=20 > ------------------------ >=20 > spridgets@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soaver= o@yahoo.com --Apple-Mail-C2E37B3B-297C-47C7-A3E6-83DC9D692466 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I agree, Derf. I didn't want to piss o= n anyone's Wheaties, but that sounds like many of the parts I've given away o= ver the past few years. To one hearty soul who took a 948 and 2 heads from m= e, I donated an engine stand as well.

Ron Soave

Pay it forward=
It only goes one way

On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:08 PM, derf via S= pridgets <spridgets@autox.tea= m.net> wrote:

Someone would want them. I don't think there's much profit to be= made. Maybe donate them to a racer buddy or trade them for something n= ifty?

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:50 PM, John O'Brien via Spridgets <= spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
Hi Spridget List:
I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape. I think= it's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc. Does this engine h= ave any value to anyone? if so, what would it be worth? It is lo= cated in Bellevue, NE, and also has the smoothcase tranny.
I also have a 1098 that had been installed in the car when I bought it. = ; It ran fine when I removed it and can be turned by hand. I replaced i= t with a 1275 years ago and it is taking up space. It is missing a cou= ple external parts but is mostly complete, have the exhaust manifold also, b= ut no carb. set, since I moved it to the 1275. Same location, What sho= uld it be worth? Anyone looking for either of these?

Thanks
John O'Brien
'61 bugeye "Lucy"
'65 BJ8 "Madelyn"
------------------------

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I had two 1098s and = it took me several years to give them away.

jay

From: Ron Soave via= Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
To: derf <derf247@gmail.com>
Cc: Spridget list <spridgets@autox.te= am.net>
Sent:= Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2 sprite engines

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I agree, Derf. I didn't want t= o piss on anyone's Wheaties, but that sounds like many of the parts I've gi= ven away over the past few years. To one hearty soul who took a 948 and 2 h= eads from me, I donated an engine stand as well.
Ron Soave

Pay i= t forward
It only goes one= way

On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:08 PM, derf via Sprid= gets <spr= idgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

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Someone would want the= m. I don't think there's much profit to be made. Maybe donate t= hem to a racer buddy or trade them for something nifty?

=
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Jo= hn O'Brien via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
Hi = Spridget List:
I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape. I thin= k it's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc. Does this engine= have any value to anyone? if so, what would it be worth? It is= located in Bellevue, NE, and also has the smoothcase tranny.
I also have a 1098 that had been installed in the car when I bought it.&nbs= p; It ran fine when I removed it and can be turned by hand. I replace= d it with a 1275 years ago and it is taking up space. It is missing a= couple external parts but is mostly complete, have the exhaust manifold al= so, but no carb. set, since I moved it to the 1275. Same location, Wh= at should it be worth? Anyone looking for either of these?

Thanks
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'65 BJ8 "Madelyn"
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I thought that might be the case. I'll figure out something. I just hate to scrap them if someone could get some good out of them. I'll put a call out to the local club (probably should have done that first) If I don't get any takers, they may be scrapyard bound. John '61 bugeye "Lucy" '65 BJ8 "Madelyn" On 10/27/2015 2:29 PM, Jay via Spridgets wrote: > I had two 1098s and it took me several years to give them away. > jay > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Ron Soave via Spridgets > *To:* derf > *Cc:* Spridget list > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:12 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Spridgets] 2 sprite engines > > I agree, Derf. I didn't want to piss on anyone's Wheaties, but > that sounds like many of the parts I've given away over the past > few years. To one hearty soul who took a 948 and 2 heads from me, > I donated an engine stand as well. > > Ron Soave > > Pay it forward > It only goes one way > > > > > On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:08 PM, derf via Spridgets > >> Someone would want them. I don't think there's much profit to be >> made. Maybe donate them to a racer buddy or trade them for >> something nifty? >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:50 PM, John O'Brien via Spridgets >> wrote: >> >> Hi Spridget List: >> I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough >> shape. I think it's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty >> etc. Does this engine have any value to anyone? if so, what >> would it be worth? It is located in Bellevue, NE, and also >> has the smoothcase tranny. >> I also have a 1098 that had been installed in the car when I >> bought it. It ran fine when I removed it and can be turned by >> hand. I replaced it with a 1275 years ago and it is taking >> up space. It is missing a couple external parts but is >> mostly complete, have the exhaust manifold also, but no carb. >> set, since I moved it to the 1275. Same location, What >> should it be worth? Anyone looking for either of these? >> >> Thanks >> John O'Brien >> '61 bugeye "Lucy" >> '65 BJ8 "Madelyn" >> ------------------------ >> >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf247@gmail.com >> >> >> ------------------------ >> >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soavero@yahoo.com > > ------------------------ > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jfishbein@snet.net > > > > > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/archive > Forums:http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/banjojohn@cox.net --------------060100070101010205010702 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Okay, thanks for the input.� I thought that might be the case.� I'll figure out something.� I just hate to scrap them if someone could get some good out of them.� I'll put a call out to the local club (probably should have done that first)� If I don't get any takers, they may be scrapyard bound.
John
'61 bugeye "Lucy"
'65 BJ8 "Madelyn"

On 10/27/2015 2:29 PM, Jay via Spridgets wrote:

I had two 1098s and it took me several years to give them away.

�

jay

From: Ron Soave via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
To: derf <derf247@gmail.com>
Cc: Spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2 sprite engines

I agree, Derf. I didn't want to piss on anyone's Wheaties, but that sounds like many of the parts I've given away over the past few years. To one hearty soul who took a 948 and 2 heads from me, I donated an engine stand as well.�

Ron Soave

Pay it forward

It only goes one way

On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:08 PM, derf via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

Someone would want them.� I don't think there's much profit to be made.� Maybe donate them to a racer buddy or trade them for something nifty?

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:50 PM, John O'Brien via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

Hi Spridget List:
I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape.� I think it's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc.� Does this engine have any value to anyone?� if so, what would it be worth?� It is located in Bellevue, NE, and also has the smoothcase tranny.
I also have a 1098 that had been installed in the car when I bought it.� It ran fine when I removed it and can be turned by hand.� I replaced it with a 1275 years ago and it is taking up space.� It is missing a couple external parts but is mostly complete, have the exhaust manifold also, but no carb. set, since I moved it to the 1275. Same location,� What should it be worth?� Anyone looking for either of these?

Thanks
John O'Brien
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'65 BJ8 "Madelyn"
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Dean Swanson '62 A.H. Sprite mkII with 1275 (and 948 in storage...) -----Original Message----- From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John O'Brien via Spridgets Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 2:51 PM To: Spridget list Subject: [Spridgets] 2 sprite engines Hi Spridget List: I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape. I think it's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc. Does this engine have any value to anyone? if so, what would it be worth? It is located in Bellevue, NE, and also has the smoothcase tranny. I also have a 1098 that had been installed in the car when I bought it. It ran fine when I removed it and can be turned by hand. I replaced it with a 1275 years ago and it is taking up space. It is missing a couple external parts but is mostly complete, have the exhaust manifold also, but no carb. set, since I moved it to the 1275. Same location, What should it be worth? Anyone looking for either of these? Thanks John O'Brien '61 bugeye "Lucy" '65 BJ8 "Madelyn" ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/d.swanson@earthlink.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 27 19:40:30 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85057258551B for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:40:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f51.google.com (mail-oi0-f51.google.com [209.85.218.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80B4D2585159 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 19:40:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by oiao187 with SMTP id o187so131450951oia.3 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 18:41:15 -0700 (PDT) h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject :message-id:date:references:in-reply-to:to; bh=DpY0gV48moPcbUpifce6vqljgh06kPA7X9w1gNB1HFA=; b=Ly/2GVF9NQC6C1tmh459viBG8e75DaATbzA+NkjbipeGwHnDTdapuD6Dx0vomuIz1H BBXU9sOILnlEK1IXdw2qe5gWnnkgpcHVg+QxgiKfXLbLwPN6qLx46VSlwYmyANci9bi7 Uq9g1vekPekpljgzMjolOyTVKu0TeDECw8iqrB5KpH25PbJVRgd8hooYR9qqmfYwtEqK wXXf5Id/I/cj4T8i4huBwEOuJJMKqCytHShjpk4FVrUd2aCC6KYhSSGAEEOh3j7Eqxvv 8iwa+Id0id6xmsjIu6tgziksn5FpHYjZ3BGgmFLLB7C9OfKdlFBY45piteMQ4go6xKje +18A== Tue, 27 Oct 2015 18:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?IPv6:2602:306:cfb4:1cd0:ccac:9fa0:da48:d8ad? ([2602:306:cfb4:1cd0:ccac:9fa0:da48:d8ad]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r124sm1887179oia.24.2015.10.27.18.41.14 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 27 Oct 2015 18:41:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 18:41:13 -0700 References: <562FFFF5.6050508@cox.net> To: John O'Brien , Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2 sprite engines From: daredelvis--- via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0474043976947544720== boundary=Apple-Mail-D9DED8F4-B362-4632-937A-DFD82566D29C Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-D9DED8F4-B362-4632-937A-DFD82566D29C charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 1098 heads can be desirable. 12G295 casting can bring some money on eBay.=20= Brian > On Oct 27, 2015, at 3:51 PM, John O'Brien via Spridgets wrote: >=20 > Okay, thanks for the input. I thought that might be the case. I'll figur= e out something. I just hate to scrap them if someone could get some good o= ut of them. I'll put a call out to the local club (probably should have don= e that first) If I don't get any takers, they may be scrapyard bound. > John > '61 bugeye "Lucy" > '65 BJ8 "Madelyn" >=20 >> On 10/27/2015 2:29 PM, Jay via Spridgets wrote: >> I had two 1098s and it took me several years to give them away. >> =20 >> jay >>=20 >> From: Ron Soave via Spridgets >> To: derf =20 >> Cc: Spridget list =20 >> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:12 PM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2 sprite engines >>=20 >> I agree, Derf. I didn't want to piss on anyone's Wheaties, but that sound= s like many of the parts I've given away over the past few years. To one hea= rty soul who took a 948 and 2 heads from me, I donated an engine stand as we= ll.=20 >>=20 >> Ron Soave >>=20 >> Pay it forward >> It only goes one way >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:08 PM, derf via Spridgets wrote: >>=20 >>> Someone would want them. I don't think there's much profit to be made. = Maybe donate them to a racer buddy or trade them for something nifty? >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:50 PM, John O'Brien via Spridgets wrote: >>> Hi Spridget List: >>> I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape. I think i= t's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc. Does this engine have any= value to anyone? if so, what would it be worth? It is located in Bellevue= , NE, and also has the smoothcase tranny. >>> I also have a 1098 that had been installed in the car when I bought it. = It ran fine when I removed it and can be turned by hand. I replaced it wit= h a 1275 years ago and it is taking up space. It is missing a couple extern= al parts but is mostly complete, have the exhaust manifold also, but no carb= . set, since I moved it to the 1275. Same lo= cation, What should it be worth? Anyone looking for either of these? >>>=20 >>> Thanks >>> John O'Brien >>> '61 bugeye "Lucy" >>> '65 BJ8 "Madelyn" >>> ------------------------ >>>=20 >>> spridgets@autox.team.net >>>=20 >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>>=20 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/derf= 247@gmail.com >>> ------------------------ >>>=20 >>> spridgets@autox.team.net >>>=20 >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>>=20 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soav= ero@yahoo.com >>=20 >> ------------------------ >>=20 >> spridgets@autox.team.net >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>=20 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/jfish= bein@snet.net >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> ------------------------ >>=20 >> spridgets@autox.team.net >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>=20 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/banjo= john@cox.net >=20 > ------------------------ >=20 > spridgets@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/darede= lvis@gmail.com --Apple-Mail-D9DED8F4-B362-4632-937A-DFD82566D29C charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
1098 heads can be desirable. 12G295 casting can bring some money on eBay.
Brian

On Oct 27, 2015, at 3:51 PM, John O'Brien via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

Okay, thanks for the input. I thought that might be the case. I'll figure out something. I just hate to scrap them if someone could get some good out of them. I'll put a call out to the local club (probably should have done that first) If I don't get any takers, they may be scrapyard bound.
John
'61 bugeye "Lucy"
'65 BJ8 "Madelyn"

On 10/27/2015 2:29 PM, Jay via Spridgets wrote:

I had two 1098s and it took me several years to give them away.

jay

From: Ron Soave via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
To: derf <derf247@gmail.com>
Cc: Spridget list <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2 sprite engines

I agree, Derf. I didn't want to piss on anyone's Wheaties, but that sounds like many of the parts I've given away over the past few years. To one hearty soul who took a 948 and 2 heads from me, I donated an engine stand as well.

Ron Soave

Pay it forward

It only goes one way

On Oct 27, 2015, at 2:08 PM, derf via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

Someone would want them. I don't think there's much profit to be made. Maybe donate them to a racer buddy or trade them for something nifty?

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:50 PM, John O'Brien via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

Hi Spridget List:
I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape. I think it's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc. Does this engine have any value to anyone? if so, what would it be worth? It is located in Bellevue, NE, and also has the smoothcase tranny.
I also have a 1098 that had been installed in the car when I bought it. It ran fine when I removed it and can be turned by hand. I replaced it with a 1275 years ago and it is taking up space. It is missing a couple external parts but is mostly complete, have the exhaust manifold also, but no carb. set, since I moved it to the 1275. Same location, What should it be worth? Anyone looking for either of these?

Thanks
John O'Brien
'61 bugeye "Lucy"
'65 BJ8 "Madelyn"
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--Apple-Mail-D9DED8F4-B362-4632-937A-DFD82566D29C-- --===============0474043976947544720== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0474043976947544720==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 27 20:41:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C98B2585393 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 20:41:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3997258595A for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2015 20:41:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.108]) by resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id aShx1r0092LrikM01SiJD5; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 02:42:18 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-322v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.49.101]) by resomta-ch2-12v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id aSiH1r00L2Azwqi01SiHid; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 02:42:18 +0000 Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 02:42:17 +0000 (UTC) To: Spridgets Thread-Topic: Cunifer brake pipe Thread-Index: /g6FH/TA8lypZXm5BcLXT8TsnUplmg== s=q20140121; t=1446000138; bh=Z96MSqLohHKLtm/SgCeSEZ6kdPytW4xwFJ1k4TxuewE=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=UuBpV2s0OFNBlE6JTOtVQJiAnZ++HSkc/26PGsDSw7UJmzLdNBSN4ZkTBZ06A3Cud VZnPklcppQMRQh+7R/69N0bPotg0WKtf/la4RCA5JKB6aodH/rG2+LdU8nwtG2y4SO TkjY7BzS6OApkRp52ZkJTqp45PdNTwuSyl9aPX9YoSRl7XOpriaxUXNzBoLCWR7QgC aOHiM4FHPM5zLmtlZ/Hf8S1LU+SNqGVPGOXryFNvl0R0uqJtVf/EEaaDmc/K4vo6T5 Wec2DJVvOWx1d00kWkOA6+s4AmtnSJ4Hl86Q2JU5pXqaYcQWcnihPS5nCChQYbUbBl 3Q0BY79/Qxh5w== Subject: [Spridgets] Cunifer brake pipe From: EDWARD via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8616337064970179907== boundary="----=_Part_10424922_1155249347.1446000137742" ------=_Part_10424922_1155249347.1446000137742 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable List,=20 =C2=A0=20 I've installed a complete set on my Bugeye. Two junctions leak, no matter w= hat I try.=20 =C2=A0=20 Anyone with similar experience with these "universal" flares?=20 =C2=A0=20 Anyone installed a Cunifer set successfully?=20 =C2=A0=20 Ed Woods=20 ------=_Part_10424922_1155249347.1446000137742 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

List,

I've installed a complete set on my Bugeye. Two junctions leak, no matter what I try.

Anyone with similar experience with these "universal" flares?

Anyone installed a Cunifer set successfully?

Ed Woods
------=_Part_10424922_1155249347.1446000137742-- --===============8616337064970179907== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8616337064970179907==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 04:58:45 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601E425858E8 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 04:58:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from nm40-vm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm40-vm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.127]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979792584B56 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 04:58:26 -0600 (MDT) t=1446029955; bh=3KWbp12aemqnfoKhrPEKkFnZ8LWiSMIi4mmjuvX9/oM=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=HYCxuIFHSpRpmge1kcZPEZ+GR8lhJuzPMeB0U3Rt8jxmnpbV2FaLOdRIOe/Iol2voKySNVCr+NqNMsgu1cD3zxgGI3ZDccp4A5OYH9x6jc/H4KffalEWQVOO32ND5kFgP3HvbWVfc9+mkuLZxkDEwaYPmKJ8veDBobQyeuB6JeoB1llYqqUE8y1Tjaws9FoJChFxAVHihqbkNwrYpmVpU2iNsP+PRbaJSeNWAFQUKevDau9gJy8o2ObyGdKlhxAmEKQEMO4sB5Ix5KMEa7+2tLwO1aHIvx1G/4dboXLkeV8nVLIvxnV9Prqzjzy/USFjARcm7kdn0Yn6dezzj+zjHw== Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm40.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2015 10:59:15 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.57] by nm40.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2015 10:56:22 -0000 Received: from [212.82.98.125] by tm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2015 10:56:22 -0000 Received: from [212.82.98.72] by tm18.bullet.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2015 10:56:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Oct 2015 10:56:21 -0000 gqTrJJ1HD2Ws6AtU.b1fiYtQdILnQGk17uVbNxD58k._OxW7Qx6Wi48Jm9kMPyY3OkavoUVb7Oba umHMS5rusKseBcKYlbJuxvaQse8BKK5ETxLmOybkbgxTjBMXrO_.emGpLW12SKFfC_zOJLImjzfu z82KoSQZtatgjN1dBrHIb2z2VTfwQqT96eE6nvhSIFsQNQBZMtQhhYRqcQwgCogTqe1zVhrayEnK cRgRTSKy9vdCb4GxKUZMeyes_vcGMrkd9CEDSEN3dxQ6saPQ8c_hf3ont_C5NJuqDEteWOV9r0kE rmtnD7v1ecPPSPxUTY8dAgojkobOVIKyesTewmDImy5xaEZvKEoNbYVJteRmQ8u_eYet41_o8m5v 7N2Na5X1gQygAGoD2s1Dlgi5DKu3k4PEJT.twVKy9bmbMACo9oGPBVPGU.MszmBJkWQjDAYFPj5Z tRZtUzx34b6IgCjOl9i6RN.JyBWnH Received: by 212.82.98.122; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:56:21 +0000 Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 10:55:04 +0000 (UTC) To: EDWARD , Spridgets References: <119264246.10424923.1446000137743.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cunifer brake pipe From: GUY DAY via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3929665388125255982== boundary="----=_Part_6255586_1007001366.1446029704799" ------=_Part_6255586_1007001366.1446029704799 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable EdwardI have never heard of 'universal flares'. =C2=A0Pipe end flares are e= ither either a dome shape (male or single flare) or a funnel shape (female = or double flare). To place it in the context most will understand it requir= es opposite sexes to seat correctly. =C2=A0Next are the nuts that hold them= together, if you have the correct threads for these they SHOULD be OK. =C2= =A0(There are 4 or 5 threads in circulation with the main split in more mod= ern vehicles being Metric or UNF) =C2=A0They should turn fairly resistance = free by hand upto the last tightening spanner turn. =C2=A0If a male nut on = the pipe you MAY find this nut is not long enough as there is a small unthr= eaded portion at the start of the male nuts and this can be in different le= ngths. =C2=A0If you tighten the nut up by hand this should stop any back an= d forth movement of the pipe, if there is movement, the unthreaded bit of t= he nut is not long enough. =C2=A0The inner part of this nut contains a tape= r to seat and push on the pipe end to help make the joint. =C2=A0The nut do= es not provide the seal, this comes from the pipe flare the nut pushes.=C2= =A0There are other minor differences (but ones you should be aware of) in t= he angle of the flare dependant on the former =C2=A0that made the flare and= it COULD be you are experiencing a mis-match problem but Kunifer (copper-n= ickel) pipes are normally soft enough to overcome this and will deform and = seal. =C2=A0This very rare.=C2=A0Other problems could well be dirt in the f= itting or deformed (crossed) threads cocking the nut over slightly. =C2=A0W= hatever else you try, DO NOT use teflon or other sealing tape, =C2=A0'O' ri= ngs or any other kind of washer. =C2=A0It may be you have to cut the flare = off, then source a different nut or have a different flare at the pipe end.= =C2=A0If they don't seal when dry there is usually something you can see v= isibly wrong.Ring the pipe supplier to ask for help to see if he has any th= oughts, but please don't ring him saying he has supplied the wrong end - he= may well have - but the difference between asking for help and laying imme= diate blame can sometimes be the difference between having a new set f.o.c.= or having to return the old pipe etc.... Best of luck Guy R Day=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=20 On Wednesday, 28 October 2015, 2:42, EDWARD via Spridgets wrote: =20 =20 List,=C2=A0I've installed a complete set on my Bugeye. Two junctions leak, = no matter what I try.=C2=A0Anyone with similar experience with these "unive= rsal" flares?=C2=A0Anyone installed a Cunifer set successfully?=C2=A0Ed Woo= ds ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive tinternet.com ------=_Part_6255586_1007001366.1446029704799 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Edward
I have never heard of 'unive= rsal flares'. Pipe end flares are either either a dome shape (male or= single flare) or a funnel shape (female or double flare). To place it in t= he context most will understand it requires opposite sexes to seat correctl= y. Next are the nuts that hold them together, if you have the correct= threads for these they SHOULD be OK. (There are 4 or 5 threads in ci= rculation with the main split in more modern vehicles being Metric or UNF) = They should turn fairly resistance free by hand upto the last tighten= ing spanner turn. If a male nut on the pipe you MAY find this nut is = not long enough as there is a small unthreaded portion at the start of the = male nuts and this can be in different lengths. If you tighten the nu= t up by hand this should stop any back and forth movement of the pipe, if t= here is movement, the unthreaded bit of the nut is not long enough. T= he inner part of this nut contains a taper to seat and push on the pipe end= to help make the joint. The nut does not provide the seal, this come= s from the pipe flare the nut pushes.
There are other minor differences (but ones you should be aware of) = in the angle of the flare dependant on the former that made the flare= and it COULD be you are experiencing a mis-match problem but Kunifer (copp= er-nickel) pipes are normally soft enough to overcome this and will deform = and seal. This very rare.
Other problems could well be dirt in the fitting or deformed (crossed) thr= eads cocking the nut over slightly. Whatever else you try, DO NOT use= teflon or other sealing tape, 'O' rings or any other kind of washer.= It may be you have to cut the flare off, then source a different nut= or have a different flare at the pipe end. If they don't seal when d= ry there is usually something you can see visibly wrong.
Ring the pipe supplier to ask for help to see if he has= any thoughts, but please don't ring him saying he has supplied the wrong e= nd - he may well have - but the difference between asking for help and layi= ng immediate blame can sometimes be the difference between having a new set= f.o.c. or having to return the old pipe etc....

Best of luck

=
Guy R D= ay


=

=

On Wednesday, 28 October 2015, 2:42, EDWARD via Spr= idgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

=

List,

I've installed a complete set on my Bugeye. Two junctions leak, no mat= ter what I try.

Anyone with similar experience with these "universal" flares?

Anyone installed a Cunifer set successfully?

Ed Woods

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------=_Part_6255586_1007001366.1446029704799-- --===============3929665388125255982== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============3929665388125255982==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 07:21:48 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C052585DE0 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 07:21:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.knology.net (smtp.knology.net [64.8.71.112]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0A102585C33 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 07:18:02 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: , , a=uCBERc07VDBTMRy7CDVnJQ==:117 a=uCBERc07VDBTMRy7CDVnJQ==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=DA-v0VzzAAAA:8 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=zVvH5H-QAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=okqsAaUGv6KYfjVG6OEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=1p06z6WMduAge3V0aEIA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=6UIaq3Bcl8oA:10 a=1TM7i2lP1nUA:10 X_CMAE_Category: , , Authentication-Results: smtp02.wow.cmh.synacor.com smtp.user=cmlove@knology.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [207.98.251.103] ([207.98.251.103:52068] helo=DA26075) by smtp.knology.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.1.42806 r(Platform:3.6.1.1)) with ESMTPA id 8C/12-12646-B3BC0365; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:18:51 -0400 To: "'EDWARD'" References: <254608163.10424415.1446000016619.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <119264246.10424923.1446000137743.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 08:18:51 -0500 Thread-Index: AQEgzi2YBdtF/W8ZNDc9soI5RcY4rZ/haSCA Content-Language: en-us Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cunifer brake pipe From: Monty Love via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============4748293119441110431== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0056_01D11159.47622170" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01D11159.47622170 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have installed a set on my 73 Midget. They do not leak. I had a = problem on one rear junction, but on further inspection I found I did = not install it correctly. =20 I believe I got this set from Paul at NOSImports.com. I really liked = the fact that I could shape them with my hands. I took the old ones and = used them for patterns for the shape and they worked great! =20 Monty Love Back on the road after 11 years of restoration!! =20 From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of = EDWARD via Spridgets Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 9:42 PM To: Spridgets Subject: [Spridgets] Cunifer brake pipe =20 List, =20 I've installed a complete set on my Bugeye. Two junctions leak, no = matter what I try. =20 Anyone with similar experience with these "universal" flares? =20 Anyone installed a Cunifer set successfully? =20 Ed Woods ------=_NextPart_000_0056_01D11159.47622170 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have installed a set on my 73 = Midget.=C2=A0 They do not = leak.=C2=A0 I had a problem on = one rear junction, but on further inspection I found I did not install = it correctly.

I believe I got this set from = Paul at NOSImports.com.=C2=A0 I = really liked the fact that I could shape them with my hands.=C2=A0 I took the old ones and used = them for patterns for the shape and they worked = great!

Monty = Love
Back on the road after 11 years = of restoration!!

From: Spridgets = [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of EDWARD via = Spridgets
Sent: = Tuesday, October 27, 2015 9:42 PM
To: Spridgets = <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Cunifer brake = pipe

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>
List,

I've installed a complete set on = my Bugeye. Two junctions leak, no matter what I = try.

Anyone with similar experience = with these "universal" = flares?

Anyone installed a Cunifer set = successfully?

Ed = Woods
------=_NextPart_000_0056_01D11159.47622170-- --===============4748293119441110431== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4748293119441110431==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 07:37:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46282585EA9 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 07:37:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE472585DD0 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 07:33:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home (ool-2f14ccc0.dyn.optonline.net [47.20.204.192]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0NWX00HIAN0E2XY0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:33:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:33:19 -0400 To: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: [Spridgets] Backwards Battery From: Michael Rowe via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============6549131716179149320== boundary="Boundary_(ID_g8kkRBPGNFJl8b764LvI3g)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_g8kkRBPGNFJl8b764LvI3g) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Forget all the test I mentioned. How can a battery run backwards, with negative voltage at the ground terminal and no voltage at the positive terminal? Michael Rowe --Boundary_(ID_g8kkRBPGNFJl8b764LvI3g) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Forget all the test I mentioned.

How can a battery run backwards, with negative voltage at the ground terminal and no voltage at the positive terminal?

Michael Rowe
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http://imagestack.co/24610574-jic= -fitting-identification-chart.html

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Here's a great guide....

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Monty L= ove via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
I have installed a set on my 73 Midget.=C2=A0 They do not leak.=C2=A0 I had a problem on on= e rear junction, but on further inspection I found I did not install it cor= rectly.
=C2=A0<= /span>
I believe I got this set from Paul at NOSIm= ports.com.=C2=A0 I really liked the fact that I could shape th= em with my hands.=C2=A0 I took the old ones and used them for = patterns for the shape and they worked great!
=C2=A0
Monty= Love
Back on the road after = 11 years of restoration!!
= =C2=A0
= From:= Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.te= am.net] On Behalf Of EDW= ARD via Spridgets
Sent: T= uesday, October 27, 2015 9:42 PM
To:= Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Spridgets] Cunifer brake pipe<= /span>
=C2=A0

List,
=C2=A0
I've installed a complete set on my Bugeye. Two junctions= leak, no matter what I try.
=C2=A0
= Anyone with simi= lar experience with these "universal" flares?
=C2=A0
<= div>
= Anyone installed a Cunifer set successfully?
=C2=A0
<= div>
= Ed Woods

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--001a11c33f7a15245605232b6dd7-- --===============1720209472161755978== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============1720209472161755978==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 13:53:43 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7778F2585A6F for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:53:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3CF625851A9 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:52:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.106]) by resqmta-ch2-05v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id ajsR1r0082JGN3p01jsxiq; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 19:52:57 +0000 Received: from [IPv6:2601:3c8:100:4900:d5cf:f3e4:bdea:c085] ([IPv6:2601:3c8:100:4900:d5cf:f3e4:bdea:c085]) by resomta-ch2-10v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id ajsw1r00S4GRzgr01jsxse; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 19:52:57 +0000 Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 14:52:55 -0500 References: <254608163.10424415.1446000016619.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <119264246.10424923.1446000137743.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <005501d11183$303431d0$909c9570$@knology.net> To: Spridgets s=q20140121; t=1446061977; bh=B1J3Omd8kSpCJMXu4liwget2NPnAobD+8BswA6WWRBA=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Message-Id:Mime-Version: Subject:Date:To; b=f1HwWnffHmBILwcT5Gk1lfRMzFwT2MCQE66Oe4Hxgxma5patfxpNRV+EDL0xk6I4t /USvbH893IYESNqBNSIdjvbRTrqBADWV4nZ2i9hxbFIMTAe24Xo3E8jEya/n7eItAV LZkgDaycZlM2lrlbaLJMyLKhr01/7p5w/Yr4rAyGKbG9AI9O6cGeBylEcFg8l3gTn3 7GAjZDZNB9rlQGZAGYhB9ZJzcP+28hpC9eQC3nJ0Vi2xAUBj4oF8bNXUfVCquJkrQl zKmSIZphnAmFrEFynK/1Ou8S/5TkjPsqphUiUHLsuRrCRafRBUEQrXcaBqb/4C+WTn Kbb7Jsk2uG4yQ== Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cunifer brake pipe From: Ewing via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8290260316031372175== --Apple-Mail=_5601CCE5-3A2C-4D5A-8E5C-FA36E312621F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=us-ascii I went through Fedhill. I made and have installed a set on the Bugeye = and the Jag. No problems. But I did spend the cash for the good = flaring tool. While it is possible to get a good flare (or double flare = or bubble flare ) with the one hand tool there is nothing as simple and = as accurate as a good brake flaring tool. http://store.fedhillusa.com/flaringtools.aspx Lester On Oct 28, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Monty Love via Spridgets = wrote: > I have installed a set on my 73 Midget. They do not leak. I had a = problem on one rear junction, but on further inspection I found I did = not install it correctly. > =20 > I believe I got this set from Paul at NOSImports.com. I really liked = the fact that I could shape them with my hands. I took the old ones and = used them for patterns for the shape and they worked great! > =20 > Monty Love > Back on the road after 11 years of restoration!! > =20 > From: Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of = EDWARD via Spridgets > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 9:42 PM > To: Spridgets > Subject: [Spridgets] Cunifer brake pipe > =20 >=20 > List, > =20 > I've installed a complete set on my Bugeye. Two junctions leak, no = matter what I try. > =20 > Anyone with similar experience with these "universal" flares? > =20 > Anyone installed a Cunifer set successfully? > =20 > Ed Woods --Apple-Mail=_5601CCE5-3A2C-4D5A-8E5C-FA36E312621F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=us-ascii I went through Fedhill. I = made and have installed a set on the Bugeye and the Jag. No = problems. But I did spend the cash for the good flaring tool. = While it is possible to get a good flare (or double flare or = bubble flare ) with the one hand tool there is nothing as simple and as = accurate as a good brake flaring tool.

http://store.fedhil= lusa.com/flaringtools.aspx

Lester
<= br>

On Oct 28, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Monty Love via = Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> = wrote:

I have installed a set on my 73 = Midget.  They do not = leak.  I had a problem on = one rear junction, but on further inspection I found I did not install = it correctly.

I believe I got this set from Paul at NOSImports.com.  I really liked the = fact that I could shape them with my hands.  I took the old ones = and used them for patterns for the shape and they worked = great!

Monty Love
Back on the road after 11 years = of restoration!!

From: Spridgets = [mailto:spridgets- On Behalf Of EDWARD via = Spridgets
Tuesday, October 27, 2015 = 9:42 PM
To: Spridgets <Subject: [Spridgets] Cunifer brake = pipe

I've installed a complete set on my = Bugeye. Two junctions leak, no matter what I = try.
Anyone with similar experience with = these "universal" flares?
Anyone installed a Cunifer set = successfully?
Ed = Woods
<= /div>
= --Apple-Mail=_5601CCE5-3A2C-4D5A-8E5C-FA36E312621F-- --===============8290260316031372175== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8290260316031372175==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 14:17:24 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E48A925853C9 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 14:17:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f170.google.com (mail-lb0-f170.google.com [209.85.217.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 679BC2585378 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 14:17:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbbec13 with SMTP id ec13so14492208lbb.0 for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:17:59 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:cc :content-type; bh=qVJJQIun16gHFAZiodxF++QYjfHAXtxBwh+ztek7370=; b=UqqWBwfLZlv1ONGcnTXNyaAsYsGg9048CBrps9d8TaxSJo3/fBd1icPmqDEoAomgwk JD/5V1ZcGHqTwsgxuZ9vq2gpFikw5HurcXZNCYrMjSQkGyTqV/D4XvhTi5hso9lEfpdF h32h0Uc3r5FXLKbiX1QOgnG6kBZ/lHsa7Uu6PYka0+Kfi9p5DledlLSGu/7EDFFMHqVh uMnFBz3WhqKx8QCcc8QzupD5AVoAFApH4ybAJxEgh+zCemJ2iHbRdMJZIpXhwdCXsGBr Bhu4yQJX/DL/KgptkplNBIBTxb275xRvFqI1EusRBVND1Gs1QRmm24y7rcfcLbfkFfsG nkmA== Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:17:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.194.195 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:17:59 -0700 (PDT) References: <254608163.10424415.1446000016619.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <119264246.10424923.1446000137743.JavaMail.zimbra@comcast.net> <005501d11183$303431d0$909c9570$@knology.net> <67487604-BB32-4DBF-8F93-0801E81FE6FE@comcast.net> Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 15:17:59 -0500 Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Cunifer brake pipe From: "bmwwxman . via Spridgets" Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5009949975851742712== --e89a8f23541900ea8505232fe4ab I bought an already made up set from NOSimport - Peter Caldwell. They are already for installation without need to make my own flares. On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Ewing via Spridgets < spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote: > I went through Fedhill. I made and have installed a set on the Bugeye and > the Jag. No problems. But I did spend the cash for the good flaring > tool. While it is possible to get a good flare (or double flare or bubble > flare ) with the one hand tool there is nothing as simple and as accurate > as a good brake flaring tool. > > http://store.fedhillusa.com/flaringtools.aspx > > Lester > > > On Oct 28, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Monty Love via Spridgets < > spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote: > > I have installed a set on my 73 Midget. They do not leak. I had a > problem on one rear junction, but on further inspection I found I did not > install it correctly. > > I believe I got this set from Paul at NOSImports.com. I really liked the > fact that I could shape them with my hands. I took the old ones and used > them for patterns for the shape and they worked great! > > Monty Love > Back on the road after 11 years of restoration!! > > *From:* Spridgets [mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf > Of *EDWARD via Spridgets > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2015 9:42 PM > *To:* Spridgets > *Subject:* [Spridgets] Cunifer brake pipe > > > List, > > I've installed a complete set on my Bugeye. Two junctions leak, no matter > what I try. > > Anyone with similar experience with these "universal" flares? > > Anyone installed a Cunifer set successfully? > > Ed Woods > > > > ------------------------ > > spridgets@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/bmwwxman@gmail.com > > -- Cheers!! Jim Johnson High Plains Youth Hockey Dodge City Trail of Fame Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology *"Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip."* *Winston Churchill* --e89a8f23541900ea8505232fe4ab Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I bought an already made up set from NOSimport - Peter Cal= dwell.=C2=A0 They are already for installation without need to make my own = flares. =C2=A0

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Ewing via Spridgets &= lt;spridgets@= autox.team.net> wrote:
I went through Fedhill.=C2=A0 I made and ha= ve installed a set on the Bugeye and the Jag.=C2=A0 No problems.=C2=A0 But = I did spend the cash for the good flaring tool.=C2=A0 While it is possible = to get a good flare (or double flare or bubble flare ) with the one hand to= ol there is nothing as simple and as accurate as a good brake flaring tool.=

http://store.fedhillusa.com/flaringtools.aspx

Lester

On Oct 2= 8, 2015, at 8:18 AM, Monty Love via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote= :

I have installed a set on= my 73 Midget.=C2=A0=C2=A0They do not leak.= =C2=A0=C2=A0I had a problem on one rear junction, but o= n further inspection I found I did not install it correctly.<= /span>
=C2=A0
I believe I go= t this set from Paul at=C2=A0NOSImports.com.=C2=A0=C2=A0I really liked t= he fact that I could shape them with my hands.=C2=A0=C2=A0I took the old ones and used them for patterns for the shape and t= hey worked great!
<= font size=3D"2" color=3D"#1f497d" face=3D"Calibri">=C2=A0
Monty Love
Bac= k on the road after 11 years of restoration!!
=C2=A0
From:=C2=A0Spridgets [= mailto:spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net]=C2= =A0On Behalf Of=C2=A0EDWARD via Spridgets
Se= nt:=C2=A0Tuesday, October 27, 2015 9:42 PM
To:=C2=A0Spridgets &= lt;spridgets@autox.team.net>
Subject:=C2= =A0[Spridgets] Cunifer brake pipe
<= /div>
=C2=A0

List,
=C2=A0
I'v= e installed a complete set on my Bugeye. Two junctions leak, no matter what= I try.
= =C2=A0
Anyone with similar experience with these = "universal" flares?
<= div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times = New Roman',serif">=C2=A0
Anyone installed a C= unifer set successfully?
=C2=A0
<= /div>
Ed Woods

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Electronic Journal of Severe Storms Meteorology
"= Tact is the ability to tell someone to go to=20 hell in such a way that they look forward to the=20 trip."
=20
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=20
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Michael,
Voltage requires two terminals= .=C2=A0 What are you using to measure this phenomenon, and where are you co= nnecting each test lead?
Hal
<= br>
On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Michael Rowe= via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px= #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

Forget all the test I mentioned.

How can a battery run backwards, with=C2=A0negati= ve=20 voltage=C2=A0at the ground terminal and no voltage at the positive=20 terminal?

=C2=A0

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And then switch 'em.
Ron

From: Hal Faulkner via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
To: Michael Rowe <mdrowe@= optonline.net>
Cc: = Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Backward= s Battery

Michael,

Voltage requires two term= inals. What are you using to measure this phenomenon, and where are y= ou connecting each test lead?

Hal

On Wed, Oct 28, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Michael = Rowe via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:=

Forget all the test I mentioned.

How can a battery run backwards, with neg= ative=20 voltage at the ground terminal and no voltage at the positive=20 terminal?

Michael Rowe

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------=_Part_362393_61846153.1446065255978-- --===============4087002135050552347== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============4087002135050552347==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 28 19:12:57 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7645258542D for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 19:12:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.34]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F0BD258541F for ; Wed, 28 Oct 2015 19:12:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-18v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.114]) by resqmta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id apDb1r0052Udklx01pDjjo; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 01:13:43 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-322v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.49.101]) by resomta-ch2-18v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id apDi1r00Y2Azwqi01pDi39; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 01:13:43 +0000 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 01:13:42 +0000 (UTC) To: Spridgets Thread-Topic: Cunifer brake pipe Thread-Index: zoXYMG7fvMj9AkA7LPxBI4C7cKy08g== s=q20140121; t=1446081223; bh=fGPyr3P0u7t7qmp6YW/AzVkD0uIK8WCLJOm2wToMihw=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=jz6Y0INBPFb7gy9QWuU6p+7usPi1bkJ/gNezCzlkWA48i8sVBDJPilJBuYimYuwl8 OiFnKd7TITfvetTcDRZxg6dxc/uNNnBWolE7rJt4dZ2DsuCnQgjsHWJkMFpjO1s/9H niEjU6ark3UPPj+yTC9L2EZUuybNgGOV75lKO/b6bZIawisNYaP2NvykdJbeC8PuvR JqpzGePI0Xw+61D9NrAttxAGjHH+ibLwWTQYu9hv8irpfsQxuDEtwYxqLq5YSE0nt/ /XO/96nwST38Yodab8kqdXoNwvq+e3pnQNaha4gQn9FEG7TrbSu1oIpWEwFkdXxleX UeGfIK1DtIgBw== Subject: [Spridgets] Cunifer brake pipe From: EDWARD via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8192921098065551745== boundary="----=_Part_11146081_774388496.1446081222854" ------=_Part_11146081_774388496.1446081222854 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks all for their responses. It would appear that these sets and their "= universal" flares have worked for almost everyone. So, the problem is somet= hing in my particular application: a bad flare, a bad fitting, or a new bra= ke cylinder that doesn't want to cooperate. Just have to figure it out.=20 =C2=A0=20 By the way, it's Moss that refers to the flares as "universal". MOPOD, I th= ink they call it. See the Moss website.=20 =C2=A0=20 Ed Woods=20 ------=_Part_11146081_774388496.1446081222854 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Thanks all for their responses. It would appear that these sets and their "universal" flares have worked for almost everyone. So, the problem is something in my particular application: a bad flare, a bad fitting, or a new brake cylinder that doesn't want to cooperate. Just have to figure it out.

By the way, it's Moss that refers to the flares as "universal". MOPOD, I think they call it. See the Moss website.

Ed Woods

------=_Part_11146081_774388496.1446081222854-- --===============8192921098065551745== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============8192921098065551745==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 29 12:30:14 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9BE2584FE7 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:30:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m004e.mx.aol.com (omr-m004e.mx.aol.com [204.29.186.4]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 163312584DD4 for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:27:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mad02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mad02.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.208]) by omr-m004e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 428323800085; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 14:27:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-aob03g.mail.aol.com (core-aob03.mail.aol.com [172.27.24.13]) by mtaomg-mad02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E471A38000088; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 14:27:56 -0400 (EDT) Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 14:27:56 -0400 To: soavero@yahoo.com, derf247@gmail.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20150623; t=1446143278; bh=DdNH7RmenEiBtrHry8jZFWYykJNh4QbeZPUBFz60rwM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XoaPQgKblMSO7m2Y1qRw6TS2LMAsP8kv/O/EeZ60GXz+t23gtFDAuIO9j5uOXCnzt F2BTZgTqHAcV+mRd5TrgYaHLX8xBZRwkg8DlwX18mybUPdQN9eEHDSRyLoehK50Nz0 Eo29ewVY8ZjVCJORq0wZQG6pIqRh981xK5x2Wv3M= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1addd05632652c7d9a Cc: spridgets@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2 sprite engines From: WeslakeMonza1330--- via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0159054426202743567== --part1_1979f8.50391c4c.4363bf2c_boundary Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I thought the traditional list response was 'it'll make a good boat anchor'. In a message dated 27/10/2015 19:12:43 GMT Standard Time, spridgets@autox.team.net writes: I have the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape. I think it's stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc. Does this engine have any value to anyone --part1_1979f8.50391c4c.4363bf2c_boundary Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I thought the traditional list response was 'it'll make a good boat= =20 anchor'.

In a message dated 27/10/2015 19:12:43 GMT Standard Time,=20 spridgets@autox.team.net writes:

I have=20 the original 948 engine from my bugeye, in rough shape. I think it= 's=20 stuck and the valve train is quite rusty etc. Does this engine hav= e any=20 value to anyone

--part1_1979f8.50391c4c.4363bf2c_boundary-- --===============0159054426202743567== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============0159054426202743567==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 29 12:30:33 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3339258516C for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:30:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m011e.mx.aol.com (omr-m011e.mx.aol.com [204.29.186.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6F5D2584E9A for ; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 12:28:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mbe02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mbe02.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.176]) by omr-m011e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4AE8A38000D1; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 14:28:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-aob03g.mail.aol.com (core-aob03.mail.aol.com [172.27.24.13]) by mtaomg-mbe02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 252B838000084; Thu, 29 Oct 2015 14:28:53 -0400 (EDT) Full-name: WeslakeMonza1330 Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 14:28:53 -0400 To: banjojohn@cox.net, spridgets@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20150623; t=1446143333; bh=AXjh0tf47IRCrxA8tEhZuU7kFk1jiyWnevkULZ/xtxk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4YrP7CkyEEzmXB02vKVa1QaS5RrgZzpXuQWQySCvWwZmLvUQAxgw9Weq65oYXH7F4 iwiL2gn4RqH2ey/kMAeN1Bf10xBwlCL39FTuK3z4GTwOkFSZWwkJG9InqZfY4qB6cT k4W5fAaM5PnioHCwddET6TmUJUzhUkRXsfg4qSuo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afeb0563265655c09 Subject: Re: [Spridgets] 2 sprite engines From: WeslakeMonza1330--- via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5058855940104410695== --part1_197a61.4e32ab50.4363bf64_boundary Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would keep the engine serial number plate though. In a message dated 27/10/2015 22:51:41 GMT Standard Time, spridgets@autox.team.net writes: Okay, thanks for the input. I thought that might be the case. I'll figure out something. I just hate to scrap them if someone could get some good out of them. I'll put a call out to the local club (probably should have done that first) If I don't get any takers, they may be scrapyard bound. John '61 bugeye "Lucy" '65 BJ8 "Madelyn" --part1_197a61.4e32ab50.4363bf64_boundary Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I would keep the engine serial number plate though.

In a message dated 27/10/2015 22:51:41 GMT Standard Time,=20 spridgets@autox.team.net writes:

Okay,=20 thanks for the input. I thought that might be the case. I'll= =20 figure out something. I just hate to scrap them if someone could= get=20 some good out of them. I'll put a call out to the local club (prob= ably=20 should have done that first) If I don't get any takers, they may= be=20 scrapyard bound.
John
'61 bugeye "Lucy"
'65 BJ8=20 "Madelyn"

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Do I have to admit what I found wrong? =

Michael Rowe

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Loose nut on the steering wheel? :-)

Sent from my keyboard

On Oct 29, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

Do I have to admit what I found wrong?

Michael Rowe

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No need to embarrase yourself further, Mike.=C2=A0 Already= chuckling here and I don't even know what you found... =C2=A0 =C2=A0Ne= vermind - we all do it.

Cheers!
Jim

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Loo= se nut on the steering wheel? =C2=A0 =C2=A0:-)

Sent from my keyboard=

On Oct 29, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Michael Rowe v= ia Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

Do I have to admit what I found wrong?=C2=A0

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Not so long as you can fabricate a plausible tale to substit= ute for the truth.

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Do I have to admit what I found wrong?=C2=A0

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David is correct.=C2=A0 Just remember, around here "F= irst Liar" doesn't stand a chance!!

On Thu, Oct 29, 2015 at 3:5= 6 PM, David Lieb via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

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Do I have to admit what I found wrong?=C2=A0

=C2=A0

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A guy I know on the = morris group found an excellent application for spare 948 and 1098 assembli= es - they are super at holding down the tent corners at windy parts swaps .= ..

Walt

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=20 =20

I would keep the engine serial number plate though.

In a message dated 27/10/2015 22:51:41 GMT Standard Time,=20 spridgets@autox.team.net writes:

Okay,=20 thanks for the input. I thought that might be the case. I'll= =20 figure out something. I just hate to scrap them if someone could ge= t=20 some good out of them. I'll put a call out to the local club (proba= bly=20 should have done that first) If I don't get any takers, they may be= =20 scrapyard bound.
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------=_Part_1627751_1489919642.1446161051436-- --===============5968940819223693045== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5968940819223693045==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 30 07:38:35 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC185258766E for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:38:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E061258766E for ; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:38:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home (ool-2f14ccc0.dyn.optonline.net [47.20.204.192]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0NX100BFVCLJ0PQ0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Fri, 30 Oct 2015 09:39:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 09:39:10 -0400 To: Spridgets References: <714352510.362394.1446065255984.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> <6B6DFF6E33A14A09A830368D8D25C712@Home> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Backwards Battery From: Michael Rowe via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============8520530168999969101== boundary="Boundary_(ID_ISKoLn11cp1PuQf6WCCjeA)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_ISKoLn11cp1PuQf6WCCjeA) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Not full disclosure, but I will say that I got +0.5V out of the cigarette lighter when it was disconnected from all but the dash hole. But there was no voltage from the dash, itself. the most obvious explanation was that its internal components made a battery. Not a lie, but even I am not nutty enough to swallow that one. After solving the problem, I decided to take a celebratory drive in my running Spridget. It has been running fine. In fact, I was pleased that it started right up after sitting three months. Of course, on that day, it would not start - a weak connection at the solenoid, which sounded like a weak battery. Michael Rowe Loose nut on the steering wheel? :-) Sent from my keyboard On Oct 29, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets wrote: Do I have to admit what I found wrong? Michael Rowe ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net --Boundary_(ID_ISKoLn11cp1PuQf6WCCjeA) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT

Not full disclosure, but I will say that I got +0.5V out of the cigarette lighter when it was disconnected from all but the dash hole. But there was no voltage from the dash, itself. the most obvious explanation was that its internal components made a battery. Not a lie, but even I am not nutty enough to swallow that one.

After solving the problem, I decided to take a celebratory drive in my running Spridget. It has been running fine. In fact, I was pleased that it started right up after sitting three months. Of course, on that day, it would not start - a weak connection at the solenoid, which sounded like a weak battery.

Michael Rowe

Loose nut on the steering wheel? :-)

Sent from my keyboard

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Do I have to admit what I found wrong?

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Did you leave some potatos in the car where they could tur= n into a battery? I never did that one when I was a kid but heard about it.= ..

On Fr= i, Oct 30, 2015 at 9:39 AM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets &l= t;spridgets@a= utox.team.net> wrote:

Not full disclosure, but I will say that I got +0= .5V out=20 of the cigarette lighter when it was disconnected from all but the dash=20 hole.=C2=A0 But there was no voltage from the dash, itself.=C2=A0 the most= =20 obvious explanation was that its internal components made a battery.=C2=A0 = Not=20 a=C2=A0lie, but even I=C2=A0am=C2=A0not nutty enough to swallow that=20 one.

=C2=A0

After solving the problem, I decided to take a ce= lebratory=20 drive in my=C2=A0running Spridget.=C2=A0 It has been running fine.=C2=A0 In= =20 fact, I was pleased that it started right up after sitting three months.=C2= =A0=20 Of course, on that day, it would not start -=C2= =A0a weak=20 connection at the solenoid, which sounded like a weak battery.

=C2=A0

Michael Rowe

Loose nut on the steering wheel? =C2=A0 =C2=A0:-)

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New 1275 engine.

Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only = 0.029 in.

My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it should be."

Bentley says:

Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) = 0.012 in. cold

Running (competition work) = 0.015 in.

timing = 0.029 in.

Online sites agree on = .012 in. cold.

So what is the 0.029 in. for?

Michael Rowe

--Boundary_(ID_U33r3qTzVsH341lWD/pGLQ)-- --===============6793750525926116690== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============6793750525926116690==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 31 14:26:54 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7ED2585210 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 14:26:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mtaout005-public.msg.strl.va.charter.net (mtaout005-public.msg.strl.va.charter.net [68.114.190.30]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0F0F2584DB9 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 14:25:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from impout002 ([68.114.189.17]) by mtaout005.msg.strl.va.charter.net (InterMail vM.9.00.020.01 201-2473-160) with ESMTP id <20151031202647.KFLY13189.mtaout005.msg.strl.va.charter.net@impout002>; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:26:47 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.106] ([71.10.17.119]) by impout002 with charter.net id bwSm1r00M2a8AQ701wSndU; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:26:47 -0500 a=9DBWqpk8duxUv73Sj1gU9A==:117 a=9DBWqpk8duxUv73Sj1gU9A==:17 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=4ycV2vTZAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=dBAT-bRa205L9ato0TIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=5DNLbIGVz0HAU6Rn2bEA:9 a=HmvUith3e3K25kbR:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 16:26:49 -0400 References: <702BFA575C1D444292DD289C05BD85B0@Home> To: Michael Rowe Cc: Spridgets Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker clearance From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2597034269123814213== boundary=Apple-Mail-A86E93F0-1041-4039-8AEC-071A35BA8793 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-A86E93F0-1041-4039-8AEC-071A35BA8793 charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are assembling t= he engine. If your engine is together and you just want to set the valve cl= earance it should be 0.012 in. set cold. Sent from my keyboard > On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets wrote: >=20 > New 1275 engine. > Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only =3D 0.029 in. > My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it should be." > Bentley says: > Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) =3D 0.012 in. cold > Running (competition work) =3D 0.015 in. > timing =3D 0.029 in. > Online sites agree on =3D .012 in. cold. > =20 > So what is the 0.029 in. for? > =20 > Michael Rowe > ------------------------ >=20 > spridgets@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk= @chartermi.net --Apple-Mail-A86E93F0-1041-4039-8AEC-071A35BA8793 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are assembling the engine. If your engine is together and you just want to set the valve clearance it should be 0.012 in. set cold.

Sent from my keyboard

On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

New 1275 engine.

Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only = 0.029 in.

My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it should be."

Bentley says:

Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) = 0.012 in. cold

Running (competition work) = 0.015 in.

timing = 0.029 in.

Online sites agree on = .012 in. cold.

So what is the 0.029 in. for?

Michael Rowe

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How about when you have 1.5 rocker ar= ms? Drove the Bugeye around yesterday. Runs great, still blue s= moke on acceleration on a recent rebuild. At leat 1000 miles since re= build. I'm afraid the rings never seated properly. Not sure of = the cylinder wall surface during the rebuild as I did not so that part of i= t.

Mike M= acLean

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On Sat= urday, October 31, 2015 1:26 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <spridgets@auto= x.team.net> wrote:

The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are = assembling the engine. If your engine is together and you just want t= o set the valve clearance it should be 0.012 in. set cold.

Sent from my keyboard

On Oct = 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> w= rote:

=

= New 1275 engine.

Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only =3D&nb= sp;0.029=20 in.

My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it sh= ould=20 be."

Bentley says:

Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) =3D 0.012 in= .=20 cold

= ; =20 = =20 Running (competition work) =3D 0.015 in.

&= nbsp; &nbs= p; =20 timing =3D 0.029 in.

Online sites agree on =3D .012 in.=20 cold.

So what is the 0.029 in. for?

Michael Rowe

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That would depend on what the cam and r= ocker manufacturers say. They usually have a spec to use with their pa= rts. A WAG on my part would be 0.015 in.

The v= alves on my shiny new '72 Midget were set to 0.006 in. One of the many= things I found that explain why the previous owner couldn't get it to run r= ight. :-)

Sent from my keyboard

On Oct 31, 2015, a= t 4:49 PM, Michael MacLean <rr= engineer.mike@att.net> wrote:

=
How about when you have 1.5 rocker arms? Drove the Bugey= e around yesterday. Runs great, still blue smoke on acceleration on a r= ecent rebuild. At leat 1000 miles since rebuild. I'm afraid the r= ings never seated properly. Not sure of the cylinder wall surface duri= ng the rebuild as I did not so that part of it.
Mike MacLean

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On Saturday, October 31, 2015 1:26 PM, Rick Fi= sk via Spridgets <spridgets@a= utox.team.net> wrote:

The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you a= re assembling the engine. If your engine is together and you just want= to set the valve clearance it should be 0.012 in. set cold.

Sent from my keyboard

On Oct 3= 1, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote= :

=
New 1= 275 engine.

Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only =3D&nbs= p;0.029=20 in.

My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it sho= uld=20 be."

Bentley says:

Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) =3D 0.012 in.= =20 cold

= =20 =20= Running (competition work) =3D 0.015 in.

&n= bsp; = =20 timing =3D 0.029 in.

Online sites agree on =3D .012 in.=20 cold.

So what is the 0.029 in. for?

Michael Rowe

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= --Apple-Mail-0F0E3D4D-4654-436B-B474-77F529F6097C-- --===============5563014838884628516== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive --===============5563014838884628516==-- From spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 31 16:15:01 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704EE258598A for ; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 16:15:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: spridgets@autox.team.net Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CDA258573E for ; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 16:14:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home (ool-2f14ccc0.dyn.optonline.net [47.20.204.192]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0NX300F8CV4USXC0@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for spridgets@autox.team.net; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 18:14:56 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 18:14:39 -0400 To: Spridgets References: <7A7AC9FC-114F-4A8A-A5FD-E64E2B302659@chartermi.net> <1860081820.239106.1446324593779.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker clearance From: Michael Rowe via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============3515534343723275409== boundary="Boundary_(ID_h19vRKQ7kO2D1pFI8PW4nQ)" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --Boundary_(ID_h19vRKQ7kO2D1pFI8PW4nQ) Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT I used Minisport roller rockers bought cheap in the 2008-9 crash. I no longer remember, but they probably are 1.5 (red), and I also used a "warm" Elgin cam that came in a box of parts. Where higher ratio rockers are to be used, the required valve clearance can then be assessed using this simple formula. For instance when using 1.5 rockers, you obviously need to multiply the cam/follower clearance by 1.5. So 0.010-in x 1.5 gives 0.015-in for standard/mild cams and 0.012-in x 1.5 gives 0.018-in for race/more-modified cams. Interestingly, most re-profiled performance cams generally have a suggested valve clearance of 0.016-in with standard ratio rockers. To assess required valve clearance where higher ratio rockers are used simply work it backwards and multiply by the higher ratio. This works out as 0.016-in divided by 1.25 = 0.0128, then x 1.5 = 0.0192" - or 0.019" at the valve. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael MacLean To: Rick Fisk ; Michael Rowe Cc: Spridgets Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker clearance How about when you have 1.5 rocker arms? Drove the Bugeye around yesterday. Runs great, still blue smoke on acceleration on a recent rebuild. At leat 1000 miles since rebuild. I'm afraid the rings never seated properly. Not sure of the cylinder wall surface during the rebuild as I did not so that part of it. Mike MacLean On Saturday, October 31, 2015 1:26 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets wrote: The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are assembling the engine. If your engine is together and you just want to set the valve clearance it should be 0.012 in. set cold. Sent from my keyboard On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets wrote: New 1275 engine. Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only = 0.029 in. My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it should be." Bentley says: Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) = 0.012 in. cold Running (competition work) = 0.015 in. timing = 0.029 in. Online sites agree on = .012 in. cold. So what is the 0.029 in. for? Michael Rowe ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk@chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation: $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengineer.mike@att.net --Boundary_(ID_h19vRKQ7kO2D1pFI8PW4nQ) Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF

I used Minisport roller rockers bought = cheap in the=20 2008-9 crash. I no longer remember, but they probably are 1.5=20 (red), and I also used a "warm" Elgin cam that came in a box = of=20 parts.

Where higher=20 ratio rockers are to be used, the required valve clearance can = then be=20 assessed using this simple formula. For instance when using 1.5 rockers, = you=20 obviously need to multiply the cam/follower clearance by 1.5. So = 0.010-in x 1.5=20 gives 0.015-in for standard/mild cams and 0.012-in x 1.5 gives 0.018-in = for=20 race/more-modified cams. Interestingly, most re-profiled performance = cams=20 generally have a suggested valve clearance of 0.016-in with standard = ratio=20 rockers. To assess required valve clearance where higher ratio rockers = are used=20 simply work it backwards and multiply by the higher ratio. This works = out as=20 0.016-in divided by 1.25 =3D 0.0128, then x 1.5 =3D 0.0192" - or 0.019" = at the=20 valve.

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Michael=20 MacLean

To: Rick Fisk ; Michael Rowe=20

Cc: Spridgets

Sent: Saturday, October 31, = 2015 4:49=20 PM

Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker = clearance

How about when you have 1.5 = rocker=20 arms? Drove the Bugeye around yesterday. Runs great, still = blue=20 smoke on acceleration on a recent rebuild. At leat 1000 miles = since=20 rebuild. I'm afraid the rings never seated properly. Not = sure of=20 the cylinder wall surface during the rebuild as I did not so that part = of=20 it.

Mike = MacLean

On Saturday, October 31, = 2015 1:26 PM,=20 Rick Fisk via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>= =20 wrote:

The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are = assembling the engine. If your engine is together and you just = want to=20 set the valve clearance it should be 0.012 in. set cold.
Sent from my keyboard

On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via = Spridgets=20 <spridgets@autox.team.net&= gt;=20 wrote:

New 1275 engine.

Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only=20 =3D 0.029 in.

My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what = it should=20 be."

Bentley says:

Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) =3D = 0.012 in.=20 cold

=20 = =20 Running (competition work) =3D = 0.015=20 in.

= &= nbsp; =20 timing =3D 0.029 = in.

Online sites agree on =3D .012 = in.=20 cold.

So what is the 0.029 in. for?

Michael Rowe

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Received: by 216.39.60.159; Sat, 31 Oct 2015 23:15:11 +0000 Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 23:15:09 +0000 (UTC) To: Michael Rowe , Spridgets References: <780FEDF366454FDCA816F4F43B8BAD76@Home> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker clearance From: Michael MacLean via Spridgets Errors-To: spridgets-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4293221836644657664== boundary="----=_Part_277960_132215619.1446333309782" ------=_Part_277960_132215619.1446333309782 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have a similar cam to the Kent 266. I guess a larger gap would be better = than too tight in any case, but I'll see wher they are at right now and the= n try .015 for a start.=C2=A0=20 =20 On Saturday, October 31, 2015 3:15 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets wrote: =20 =20 I=C2=A0used Minisport roller rockers bought cheap in the 2008-9 crash.=C2= =A0 I no longer remember, but they probably are 1.5 (red),=C2=A0and I also= =C2=A0used a "warm" Elgin cam that came in a box of parts.=C2=A0Where=C2=A0= higher ratio rockers=C2=A0are to be used, the required valve clearance can = then be assessed using this simple formula. For instance when using 1.5 roc= kers, you obviously need to multiply the cam/follower clearance by 1.5. So = 0.010-in x 1.5 gives 0.015-in for standard/mild cams and 0.012-in x 1.5 giv= es 0.018-in for race/more-modified cams. Interestingly, most re-profiled pe= rformance cams generally have a suggested valve clearance of 0.016-in with = standard ratio rockers. To assess required valve clearance where higher rat= io rockers are used simply work it backwards and multiply by the higher rat= io. This works out as 0.016-in divided by 1.25 =3D 0.0128, then x 1.5 =3D 0= .0192" - or 0.019" at the valve. ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael MacLean To: Rick Fisk ; Micha= el Rowe Cc: Spridgets Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 4:49 PM Subject: R= e: [Spridgets] rocker clearance=20 How about when you have 1.5 rocker arms?=C2=A0 Drove the Bugeye around ye= sterday.=C2=A0 Runs great, still blue smoke on acceleration on a recent reb= uild.=C2=A0 At leat 1000 miles since rebuild.=C2=A0 I'm afraid the rings ne= ver seated properly.=C2=A0 Not sure of the cylinder wall surface during the= rebuild as I did not so that part of it. Mike MacLean =20 =20 On Saturday, October 31, 2015 1:26 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets wrote: =20 The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are assembl= ing the engine. =C2=A0If your engine is together and you just want to set t= he valve clearance it should be 0.012 in. set cold. Sent from my keyboard =20 On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets wrote: =20 =20 New 1275 engine. Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only =3D=C2=A0= 0.029 in. My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it should be." Bentle= y says: Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) =3D 0.012 in. cold =C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Runni= ng (competition work) =3D 0.015 in. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ti= ming=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =3D 0.029 in. Online sites=C2=A0a= gree on=C2=A0 =3D .012 in. cold. =C2=A0 So what is the 0.029 in. for? =C2= =A0 Michael Rowe=20 ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive chartermi.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive eer.mike@att.net ------------------------ spridgets@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive eer.mike@att.net =20 ------=_Part_277960_132215619.1446333309782 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have a similar cam to th= e Kent 266. I guess a larger gap would be better than too tight in any case= , but I'll see wher they are at right now and then try .015 for a start.&nb= sp;

On Saturd= ay, October 31, 2015 3:15 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets <spridgets@auto= x.team.net> wrote:

I used Minisport roller rockers bought cheap= in the=20 2008-9 crash. I no longer remember, but they probably are 1.5=20 (red), and I also used a "warm" Elgin cam that came in a box of= =20 parts.

Where higher=20 ratio rockers are to be used, the required valve clearance can the= n be=20 assessed using this simple formula. For instance when using 1.5 rockers, yo= u=20 obviously need to multiply the cam/follower clearance by 1.5. So 0.010-in x= 1.5=20 gives 0.015-in for standard/mild cams and 0.012-in x 1.5 gives 0.018-in for= =20 race/more-modified cams. Interestingly, most re-profiled performance cams= =20 generally have a suggested valve clearance of 0.016-in with standard ratio= =20 rockers. To assess required valve clearance where higher ratio rockers are = used=20 simply work it backwards and multiply by the higher ratio. This works out a= s=20 0.016-in divided by 1.25 =3D 0.0128, then x 1.5 =3D 0.0192" - or 0.019" at = the=20 valve.

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Michael=20 MacLean

To: Rick Fisk ; Michael Rowe=20

Cc: Spridge= ts

Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 4= :49=20 PM

Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker=20 clearance

How about when = you have 1.5 rocker=20 arms? Drove the Bugeye around yesterday. Runs great, still bl= ue=20 smoke on acceleration on a recent rebuild. At leat 1000 miles since= =20 rebuild. I'm afraid the rings never seated properly. Not sure= of=20 the cylinder wall surface during the rebuild as I did not so that part of= =20 it.

Mik= e MacLean

On Saturday, October 31,= 2015 1:26 PM,=20 Rick Fisk via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>=20 wrote:

The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are=20 assembling the engine. If your engine is together and you just wa= nt to=20 set the valve clearance it should be 0.012 in. set cold.

Sent from my keyboard

On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via S= pridgets=20 <spri= dgets@autox.team.net>=20 wrote:

New 1275 engine.

Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only=20 =3D 0.029 in.

My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what i= t should=20 be."

Bentley says:

Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) =3D 0.01= 2 in.=20 cold

=20 &n= bsp;=20 Running (competition work) =3D 0.= 015=20 in.

&nb= sp; = =20 timing =3D 0.029 in.

Online sites agree on =3D .012 in.= =20 cold.

So what is the 0.029 in. for?

Michael Rowe

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Sent from my keyboard > On Oct 31, 2015, at 6:14 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets wrote: >=20 > I used Minisport roller rockers bought cheap in the 2008-9 crash. I no lo= nger remember, but they probably are 1.5 (red), and I also used a "warm" Elg= in cam that came in a box of parts. > =20 > Where higher ratio rockers are to be used, the required valve clearance ca= n then be assessed using this simple formula. For instance when using 1.5 ro= ckers, you obviously need to multiply the cam/follower clearance by 1.5. So 0= .010-in x 1.5 gives 0.015-in for standard/mild cams and 0.012-in x 1.5 gives= 0.018-in for race/more-modified cams. Interestingly, most re-profiled perfo= rmance cams generally have a suggested valve clearance of 0.016-in with stan= dard ratio rockers. To assess required valve clearance where higher ratio ro= ckers are used simply work it backwards and multiply by the higher ratio. Th= is works out as 0.016-in divided by 1.25 =3D 0.0128, then x 1.5 =3D 0.0192" -= or 0.019" at the valve. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael MacLean > To: Rick Fisk ; Michael Rowe > Cc: Spridgets > Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 4:49 PM > Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker clearance >=20 > How about when you have 1.5 rocker arms? Drove the Bugeye around yesterda= y. Runs great, still blue smoke on acceleration on a recent rebuild. At le= at 1000 miles since rebuild. I'm afraid the rings never seated properly. N= ot sure of the cylinder wall surface during the rebuild as I did not so that= part of it. > Mike MacLean >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Saturday, October 31, 2015 1:26 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets wrote: >=20 >=20 > The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are assembling= the engine. If your engine is together and you just want to set the valve c= learance it should be 0.012 in. set cold. >=20 > Sent from my keyboard >=20 >> On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets wrote: >>=20 >=20 > New 1275 engine. > Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only =3D 0.029 in. > My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it should be." > Bentley says: > Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) =3D 0.012 in. cold > Running (competition work) =3D 0.015 in. > timing =3D 0.029 in. > Online sites agree on =3D .012 in. cold. > =20 > So what is the 0.029 in. for? > =20 > Michael Rowe >> ------------------------ >>=20 >> spridgets@autox.team.net >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>=20 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refis= k@chartermi.net >=20 > ------------------------ >=20 > spridgets@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rrengi= neer.mike@att.net >=20 >=20 > ------------------------ >=20 > spridgets@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refisk= @chartermi.net --Apple-Mail-CE3A9DC3-5AD6-44A1-8479-A6BB9ADCE47E charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Why does increasing the rocker ratio c= ause a need for more clearance?

Sent from my keyboard

O= n Oct 31, 2015, at 6:14 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

I used Minisport roller rockers bought cheap i= n the=20 2008-9 crash. I no longer remember, but they probably are 1.5=20 (red), and I also used a "warm" Elgin cam that came in a box of=20= parts.

Where higher=20 ratio rockers are to be used, the required valve clearance can then= be=20 assessed using this simple formula. For instance when using 1.5 rockers, you= =20 obviously need to multiply the cam/follower clearance by 1.5. So 0.010-in x 1= .5=20 gives 0.015-in for standard/mild cams and 0.012-in x 1.5 gives 0.018-in for=20= race/more-modified cams. Interestingly, most re-profiled performance cams=20= generally have a suggested valve clearance of 0.016-in with standard ratio=20= rockers. To assess required valve clearance where higher ratio rockers are u= sed=20 simply work it backwards and multiply by the higher ratio. This works out as= =20 0.016-in divided by 1.25 =3D 0.0128, then x 1.5 =3D 0.0192" - or 0.019" at t= he=20 valve.

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Michael=20 MacLean

To: Rick Fisk ; Michael Rowe=20

Cc: Spridgets

Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 4:= 49=20 PM

Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker=20 clearance

How about when you have 1.5 r= ocker=20 arms? Drove the Bugeye around yesterday. Runs great, still blu= e=20 smoke on acceleration on a recent rebuild. At leat 1000 miles since=20= rebuild. I'm afraid the rings never seated properly. Not sure o= f=20 the cylinder wall surface during the rebuild as I did not so that part of=20= it.

Mike MacLean
<= /div>

On Saturday, October 31, 2= 015 1:26 PM,=20 Rick Fisk via Spridgets <sp= ridgets@autox.team.net>=20 wrote:

The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are=20 assembling the engine. If your engine is together and you just wan= t to=20 set the valve clearance it should be 0.012 in. set cold.

Sent from my keyboard

On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via Sp= ridgets=20 <spridg= ets@autox.team.net>=20 wrote:

New 1275 engine.

Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only=20 =3D 0.029 in.

My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it= should=20 be."

Bentley says:

Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) =3D 0.012= in.=20 cold

=20 &nb= sp;=20 Running (competition work) =3D 0.0= 15=20 in.

&nbs= p; &n= bsp; =20 timing =3D 0.029 in.

Online sites agree on =3D .012 in.=20= cold.

So what is the 0.029 in. for?

Michael Rowe

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I no l= onger remember, but they probably are 1.5 (red), and I also used a "warm" El= gin cam that came in a box of parts. >> =20 >> Where higher ratio rockers are to be used, the required valve clearance c= an then be assessed using this simple formula. For instance when using 1.5 r= ockers, you obviously need to multiply the cam/follower clearance by 1.5. So= 0.010-in x 1.5 gives 0.015-in for standard/mild cams and 0.012-in x 1.5 giv= es 0.018-in for race/more-modified cams. Interestingly, most re-profiled per= formance cams generally have a suggested valve clearance of 0.016-in with st= andard ratio rockers. To assess required valve clearance where higher ratio r= ockers are used simply work it backwards and multiply by the higher ratio. T= his works out as 0.016-in divided by 1.25 =3D 0.0128, then x 1.5 =3D 0.0192"= - or 0.019" at the valve. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Michael MacLean >> To: Rick Fisk ; Michael Rowe >> Cc: Spridgets >> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 4:49 PM >> Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker clearance >>=20 >> How about when you have 1.5 rocker arms? Drove the Bugeye around yesterd= ay. Runs great, still blue smoke on acceleration on a recent rebuild. At l= eat 1000 miles since rebuild. I'm afraid the rings never seated properly. N= ot sure of the cylinder wall surface during the rebuild as I did not so that= part of it. >> Mike MacLean >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> On Saturday, October 31, 2015 1:26 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are assemblin= g the engine. If your engine is together and you just want to set the valve= clearance it should be 0.012 in. set cold. >>=20 >> Sent from my keyboard >>=20 >>> On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets wrote: >>>=20 >>=20 >> New 1275 engine. >> Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only =3D 0.029 in. >> My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it should be." >> Bentley says: >> Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) =3D 0.012 in. cold >> Running (competition work) =3D 0.015 in. >> timing =3D 0.029 in. >> Online sites agree on =3D .012 in. cold. >> =20 >> So what is the 0.029 in. for? >> =20 >> Michael Rowe >>> ------------------------ >>>=20 >>> spridgets@autox.team.net >>>=20 >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>>=20 >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refi= sk@chartermi.net >>=20 >> ------------------------ >>=20 >> spridgets@autox.team.net >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>=20 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/rreng= ineer.mike@att.net >>=20 >>=20 >> ------------------------ >>=20 >> spridgets@autox.team.net >>=20 >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >>=20 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/refis= k@chartermi.net > ------------------------ >=20 > spridgets@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 >=20 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/soaver= o@yahoo.com --Apple-Mail-A0CD16BE-DA4E-4E3B-BA70-2DA098257CEC charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

It doesn't.

Ron Soave

On Oct 31, 2015, at 6:16 PM, Rick Fisk via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:

Why does increasing the rocker ra= tio cause a need for more clearance?

Sent from my keyboard
=
On Oct 31, 2015, at 6:14 PM, Michael Rowe via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
<= br>

I used Minisport roller rockers bought cheap i= n the=20 2008-9 crash. I no longer remember, but they probably are 1.5=20 (red), and I also used a "warm" Elgin cam that came in a box of=20= parts.

Where higher=20 ratio rockers are to be used, the required valve clearance can then= be=20 assessed using this simple formula. For instance when using 1.5 rockers, you= =20 obviously need to multiply the cam/follower clearance by 1.5. So 0.010-in x 1= .5=20 gives 0.015-in for standard/mild cams and 0.012-in x 1.5 gives 0.018-in for=20= race/more-modified cams. Interestingly, most re-profiled performance cams=20= generally have a suggested valve clearance of 0.016-in with standard ratio=20= rockers. To assess required valve clearance where higher ratio rockers are u= sed=20 simply work it backwards and multiply by the higher ratio. This works out as= =20 0.016-in divided by 1.25 =3D 0.0128, then x 1.5 =3D 0.0192" - or 0.019" at t= he=20 valve.

----- Original Message -----

From:=20 Michael=20 MacLean

To: Rick Fisk ; Michael Rowe=20

Cc: Spridgets

Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 4:= 49=20 PM

Subject: Re: [Spridgets] rocker=20 clearance

How about when you have 1.5 r= ocker=20 arms? Drove the Bugeye around yesterday. Runs great, still blu= e=20 smoke on acceleration on a recent rebuild. At leat 1000 miles since=20= rebuild. I'm afraid the rings never seated properly. Not sure o= f=20 the cylinder wall surface during the rebuild as I did not so that part of=20= it.

Mike MacLean
<= /div>

On Saturday, October 31, 2= 015 1:26 PM,=20 Rick Fisk via Spridgets <sp= ridgets@autox.team.net>=20 wrote:

The 0.029 in. spec is a whole different thing used when you are=20 assembling the engine. If your engine is together and you just wan= t to=20 set the valve clearance it should be 0.012 in. set cold.

Sent from my keyboard

On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:06 PM, Michael Rowe via Sp= ridgets=20 <spridg= ets@autox.team.net>=20 wrote:

New 1275 engine.

Haynes says "Rocker clearance, timing only=20 =3D 0.029 in.

My mechanic/tutor says, "that is twice what it= should=20 be."

Bentley says:

Rocker clearance: Running (Standard) =3D 0.012= in.=20 cold

=20 &nb= sp;=20 Running (competition work) =3D 0.0= 15=20 in.

&nbs= p; &n= bsp; =20 timing =3D 0.029 in.

Online sites agree on =3D .012 in.=20= cold.

So what is the 0.029 in. for?

Michael Rowe

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