From superchargers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 07:52:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5312584DBC for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:52:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: superchargers@autox.team.net Received: from nm7-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm7-vm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553A525844A1 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:48:13 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1407419324; bh=bYV7UVnE7nmQkVG6SZv7xaejwJ8U4CyassBrymwUtdc=; h=Received:Received:Received:X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=f5bx9ntp5BBFZuaM8xIWMdf7Er8wZFAOCk1nuGUeeaEolNzE8GDAklhcdje6jh1DXy77NegNDRPBhnLMVhI8uC4QM0gGQlTZJmIRWal+31MdJ9kDerEGvOyO3FFzUW+7EwyjlAbCwbunPTIUZfcEiFs03HHSAEEQSUEv07gMZBsYYWCFwE+nllr9vkWSF3g+hwGokeS7iyQZwte+rRVyLjUVKeZYMFvHleK+lvZnCpy1J4IJZRUA+bTkRBt5vvfGRmI37qi09+OFltTxutlijS80GzhJEkx6nsqC721I5sbqBrbwaRFxzoyQKtqWxRo8kESbhSPckJ4nP3klH8Y6Mw== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=ameritech.net; b=oSZCMjJg/rG0udRQ+4dsJ1IlSZY6EqAX3yHogEcdNfewo/ggNe+6T9t55Frub00TGGWYLtCm5n0ntesTboelK7jp3RRTptlDSupmnqNAhUgf/kPQs1FHEgmxXeuNEHD969/Y5xHbvRrtd3+HjWOQOGx4hLTBkq0cCSy9RPwFuHD0TQWokwyIKCH3gErYPpH+/dT44IqZ3G4MD7iTvpj3PHYyvxfIvSFZkicxOGs1BmCHDYyppwOUlTPnxUlj6arKIEd4rRLGCs+mST9ke42gyKI9cjT7AVBz4/21vHnOqIR2Qm3HKcbLBoVvfRXGmdF4T5mGQB7r8th/nULrRHmRKw==; Received: from [66.196.81.156] by nm7.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2014 13:48:44 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.97] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2014 13:48:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp117.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2014 13:48:44 -0000 axq2R5Hvor09SJqpk1OsZ6b9u2qa8YcXgfv24r7oL7.QvO8C_uULdDaRvH87 QTXn8OyNd.KYjjbIAzWYUNKQESjLCawvhHLyZPjAciL_4fOnoXAmqbtW11XH AzGGdPZ5xKs0wGiD0joZmsIy3ibg2zNmu406AxKAaWuR6c90mn8ATMxVmeH8 ZLghi9c0lQK5YC.4JRcNB6vadbphyax3.1lIwTC8ETrpdP7BF7wMeyYwW5pD B_fUimh.HihvqwcS8ONc6S0E0el3QkBHH.wJgZWAHvZuRS9Fha3zOYi_9NX2 Vvkd5p6nbzKD.4chnuy5r2TFXTV.IS45j2hOPe7CbbyjqaoGGz0p4vxpXuPt JbyU3I2tJvwJ0zOd11lN6_rmCoz_HC.BIR1FuIHT17mKA6ur9yIeFxJw8aMA Ehe6AFHOGbtb3sTdUx08LdW3q8lh1ilzZ5CDIuDD_Zq7iSU4i1OVNnSBACZP lU0iv.RWsTdxhLBAjV7K0qL5NNTa4wlPZBwcHvWzkkhpiHA-- From: "Karl Vacek" To: Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:48:59 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac+yQtBIkqn48KKnT+q1XnVlKFkurw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Super] New Shorrock owner Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: superchargers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I'm a brand-new Shorrock owner, intended for my MGTC. I first bought the car in 1970, and read about Shorrock (and other) superchargers, but never seriously looked for one. Sold the car in 1984 and 25 years later bought it back from the same guy I'd sold it to. Now slowly repairing all the "restoration" work done by Fred Flintstone. The Shorrock I have is a complete TC setup except for one bracket (the one with the bent ear), and the oil line. Externally everything looks and feels fine, but I haven't disassembled it yet. I do have one concern, in that I can feel a slight lash, apparently in the drive pins where the drive assembly mates to the supercharger flange. I'm assuming I'll need to bush the holes where the pins slip in so they fit more snugly? I don't know whether I will definitely need any parts at this point, but are there any parts sources, or am I going to be searching for or making anything I need? I haven't taken my engine apart yet either, but I will rebuild it again before running it because the "restorer" left so much loose and used so many broken parts elsewhere that I just don't know what's in there. Therefore I can build it appropriately for the Shorrock. But what's current thinking on compression ratio, cams, etc? When I sold the car I'd just had the block sleeved to standard and had the crank welded back to standard, hard chromed, shot peened, and balanced. The shop that did the crank used to do lots of SCCA cranks and the one they did for my E-Production Healey back then was really tough (I spun a rod bearing and it didn't hurt the crank), so I had them do the TC crank too. I really don't know what pistons are in the engine till I look, but I have a new set of Hepolite pop-ups that I think are 8.25:1 or 8.5:1, if that's not too much. Head is full thickness -- I may have done some port matching and light polishing, but I really don't recall. Any and all guidance will be welcomed. Thank you! Karl Vacek Riverside, IL TC 6370 _______________________________________________ superchargers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From superchargers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 13:11:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B8C25845A3 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 13:11:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: superchargers@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE2AA2584592 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 13:11:40 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge02 smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:3065] helo=cdptpa-web02) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 0D/69-18994-C8FC3E35; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 19:12:12 +0000 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 19:12:12 +0000 From: Randall To: Karl Vacek , superchargers@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal 2014 19:12:12 +0000 Subject: Re: [Super] New Shorrock owner Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: superchargers-bounces@autox.team.net I'm sorry I can't help, Karl; but I just wanted to say what a shock it was to get a post on this list after all these years. ---- Karl Vacek wrote: > I have a new set > of Hepolite pop-ups that I think are 8.25:1 or 8.5:1, if that's not too > much. How much boost are you looking for? What fuel are you trying to run on? Do you have ignition retard? From what I've read (my Judson is still in a crate) 8.5 seems like a lot if you are running over 6 psi on pump gas with a stock distributor. But I believe MSD still sells their boost retard module, which might make it work. Randall _______________________________________________ superchargers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From superchargers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 17:45:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50E672584993 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 17:45:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: superchargers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (omr-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DD7F2584571 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 17:43:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-maa01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-maa01.mx.aol.com [172.26.222.143]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B0391700000AC for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 19:44:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mea02g.mail.aol.com (core-mea02.mail.aol.com [172.27.62.2]) by mtaomg-maa01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8985638000082 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 19:44:27 -0400 (EDT) To: superchargers@autox.team.net From: laf48@aol.com Received: from 71.167.162.215 by webmail-vm071.sysops.aol.com (64.12.178.23) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 07 Aug 2014 19:44:27 -0400 x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1407455067; bh=jKfgFQdJFK9CJ1ycuRpZwMe3+QcdmCM/YyB7dyzsydA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jOtj902JQdoHwx+Cksv9dXI6FC/5+TWji3zdin1DiN+oMyfLPj0/Mqnz47RvAG3at QcmvbV/lk15ftdgyx3j/RM6DA1lvPnjhjHoMKzlWfcA6dUwnT2IZ+2iFW0mGZajyVQ cJUjLY12/zY1ha1A/2XdwPC/lXICSN/VgNwDTGac= Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 19:44:27 -0400 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1ade8f53e40f5b77f4 Subject: [Super] MG XPAG supercharged camshafts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: superchargers-bounces@autox.team.net I am the only supplier of camshafts specifically designed for S/C XPAG engines. I have 1 for street every day driving, 1 for very fast road or race & 1 which will outperform any other XPAG camshaft including the B & G 102 race camshaft. And they are roller lifter camshafts, no cam, lifter wear. A roller cam will always outperform a flat lifter cam of the same duration! All made in USA. 3 Normally aspirated XPAG cams also in stock. Len Fanelli Abingdon Performance 914 420 8699 _______________________________________________ superchargers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From superchargers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 23:40:28 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 337B52584B10 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 23:40:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: superchargers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-35.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0E02580602 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 23:40:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta001.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s785epuD004084 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 22:40:51 -0700 Received: by dm0201.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 45e15c86) id dm0201.53e134fc.230572 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 22:40:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 22:40:45 -0700 To: superchargers@autox.team.net From: Gary Vankirk engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.27,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-08-08_02:2014-08-06,2014-08-08,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=1 suspectscore=19 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1408080068 Subject: Re: [Super] New Shorrock owner Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: superchargers-bounces@autox.team.net Check with Alejandro Martin , I believe he does parts for Shorrock. He has a website - http://www.vwsupercharger.info/ gary _______________________________________________ superchargers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive From superchargers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 05:56:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26762584B40 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 05:56:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: superchargers@autox.team.net Received: from know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net (know-smtprelay-omc-9.server.virginmedia.net [80.0.253.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBE025804D3 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 05:56:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from JohnPC ([82.18.232.85]) by know-smtprelay-9-imp with bizsmtp id cBx61o02t1rCZSi01Bx6t1; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 12:57:06 +0100 a=UMSnSWt0xaoPH5sNhfqEjA==:117 a=UMSnSWt0xaoPH5sNhfqEjA==:17 a=gFxxxA0JuhYA:10 a=jg4XvlXfYAEA:10 a=uObrxnre4hsA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=NLZqzBF-AAAA:8 a=mbZ05ln8AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=XNCEYXpX_NT5paf0arQA:9 a=u-CRU4FTUfMS6tKp:21 a=b5a9XsTOIY3BzkjM:21 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=_dQi-Dcv4p4A:10 From: "John Moxon" To: "Karl Vacek" , References: <009401cfb246$57681ed0$06385c70$@Ameritech.net> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 12:57:18 +0100 Subject: Re: [Super] New Shorrock owner Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: superchargers-bounces@autox.team.net If you find it difficult to contact Alejandro Martin there is another Shorrock specialist here in the UK. You can contact Keith Luck via his Ebay profile here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/krlmm?_trksid=p2047675.l2559 John. -----Original Message----- From: Karl Vacek Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 2:48 PM To: superchargers@autox.team.net Subject: [Super] New Shorrock owner Hi, I'm a brand-new Shorrock owner, intended for my MGTC. I first bought the car in 1970, and read about Shorrock (and other) superchargers, but never seriously looked for one. Sold the car in 1984 and 25 years later bought it back from the same guy I'd sold it to. Now slowly repairing all the "restoration" work done by Fred Flintstone. The Shorrock I have is a complete TC setup except for one bracket (the one with the bent ear), and the oil line. Externally everything looks and feels fine, but I haven't disassembled it yet. I do have one concern, in that I can feel a slight lash, apparently in the drive pins where the drive assembly mates to the supercharger flange. I'm assuming I'll need to bush the holes where the pins slip in so they fit more snugly? I don't know whether I will definitely need any parts at this point, but are there any parts sources, or am I going to be searching for or making anything I need? I haven't taken my engine apart yet either, but I will rebuild it again before running it because the "restorer" left so much loose and used so many broken parts elsewhere that I just don't know what's in there. Therefore I can build it appropriately for the Shorrock. But what's current thinking on compression ratio, cams, etc? When I sold the car I'd just had the block sleeved to standard and had the crank welded back to standard, hard chromed, shot peened, and balanced. The shop that did the crank used to do lots of SCCA cranks and the one they did for my E-Production Healey back then was really tough (I spun a rod bearing and it didn't hurt the crank), so I had them do the TC crank too. I really don't know what pistons are in the engine till I look, but I have a new set of Hepolite pop-ups that I think are 8.25:1 or 8.5:1, if that's not too much. Head is full thickness -- I may have done some port matching and light polishing, but I really don't recall. Any and all guidance will be welcomed. Thank you! Karl Vacek Riverside, IL TC 6370 _______________________________________________ superchargers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/superchargers/john.moxon@ntlworld.com _______________________________________________ superchargers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive