From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 1 12:47:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9D342551 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 12:47:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id ED9FE42534 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2013 12:29:38 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1362165739; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=To:Date:Subject:Content-Type:From:Message-Id; b=F63z2YBIm7OhtLDP4ruto3AP/9agUCdz86PUgNsSdUq9FzLTdUWCy1ZPuzAkQsYIU Sx7Gm90qMnG9ap8d39UsNSkSAtulX9KHtRln26ZxnBQK9oD4zrxleDGi8W/C6sC/Kd 4bBmrwMsQoloWHCElj4u7oArxuD0DSdXQ7zp1YHM= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (mailpop04.vgs.untd.com [10.181.45.24]) by smtpout01.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABJVB98FA6RFT92 for (sender ); Fri, 1 Mar 2013 11:21:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from brockctella@juno.com) by mailpop04.vgs.untd.com (jqueuemail) id SX6DGNVH; Fri, 01 Mar 2013 11:21:11 PST To: tigers@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 11:20:57 -0800 From: brockctella@juno.com Subject: [Tigers] Tiger engine mounts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Summit catalog says their mounts are supplied by Anchor. So according to the previous post, they are made in Korea. For those that did not understand my previous post, the issue with the mounts is that they are too soft and the motor sinks down and contacts the frame. They also tear. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 4 11:47:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FC242869 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:47:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1174640548 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 11:47:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.71]) by qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7QGJ1l0071YDfWL51WffVR; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 18:39:39 +0000 Received: from sz0112.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta20.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7Wff1l00f2ymm843gWffq0; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 18:39:39 +0000 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 18:39:39 +0000 (UTC) From: George Re To: Tigers s=q20121106; t=1362422379; bh=RJLB7dau5lHaKLoqHXeHpg07wZp7YGCQvyG8/tTke1M=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=mK0sLLogzAWh9vD8wkmZOgiQ5x/qfJCk/Md55oks8QIQk6ur/WAQJtvQ8+Z1444PQ /RthufHHYd1iv+Z5D0Vw9HTdwP1evZES9swinYGaOmXmMqBZmUiYLg2/8WE9U1RO2H HLzdZeVIlxZuNbH8kv5IHCFVz3k1aC9RN8pwFTlPncT4JRp0/smqN7xBSoR+6I/UJ0 jfWxkORVIozJ7BgpsJw/TB6m5d6f1m+7AHf2O0GbtUSooCdlx6qsCBcLj19FBWK+4E VVGPtigvxczV9AWQ9AqHcz/EnMPBphrWiu/0P/HRkJDpaB4p5l5CM3kNKYQY5S7HnG qKlyYeXeo+N1g== Subject: [Tigers] List UP? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net just checking to see if Tiger list still up no msg. in a few days George Re _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 4 13:39:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AEB442867 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 13:39:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo101.cox.net (fed1rmfepo101.cox.net [68.230.241.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120D04043E for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 13:39:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo305 ([68.230.241.173]) by fed1rmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20130304203205.EQSG25001.fed1rmfepo101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo305> for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 15:32:05 -0500 Received: from fed1rmwml303 ([172.18.140.217]) by fed1rmimpo305 with cox id 7YY41l00n4hdPEs01YY4T6; Mon, 04 Mar 2013 15:32:04 -0500 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=UyHOC7Gu_PIA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=d9EXtp9AAOIA:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=R30MtPxYL_P37W3G1nUA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 204.61.12.74 by webmail.west.cox.net; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 20:32:04 +0000 Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 15:32:04 -0500 From: To: George Re , Tigers Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Tigers] List UP? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Comin' in loud and clear, George. Andy Walker Edmond, OK B382001600LRXFE TAC #740 ---- George Re wrote: > just checking to see if Tiger list still up no msg. in a few days > > George Re > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/awtiger@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 4 19:44:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AB940569 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 19:44:53 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc4-s21.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc4-s21.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.223]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8788640424 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 19:44:44 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY148-DS13 ([65.54.190.200]) by bay0-omc4-s21.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 4 Mar 2013 18:37:10 -0800 From: David or Gary Franchi To: Jim D'Amelio , 'Mark Rense' , tigers@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 02:37:10 GMT FILETIME=[56790890:01CE194A] Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger engine mounts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Found these motor mounts on eBay, they are marked made in USA. I know when I bought TRW mounts in the 90's some would say Made in USA, others would say Made in Mexico, etc. Could be the same for Anchor, more than one supplier, or the old mounts were made in USA, and new ones are Made in Korea, or vise-versa. There is a pair of 6 cyl. mounts for sale by the same seller, one box is unmarked, the other is marked Made in Korea. Even the Made in USA mounts might sag? David Franchi http://www.ebay.com/itm/Motor-Mounts1963-1964-1965-1966-Ford-Falcon-Mercury-Comet-Mustang-260-289-V8-/261164036909?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cce96f32d&vxp=mtr http://i.ebayimg.com/t/Motor-Mounts1963-1964-1965-1966-Ford-Falcon-Mercury-Comet-Mustang-260-289-V8-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/CCEAAOxyhs9RBaAM/$%28KGrHqV,!oEFCyPWfZ7MBRB,!MqWeQ~~60_57.JPG -----Original Message----- From: Jim D'Amelio Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2013 3:21 PM To: 'Mark Rense', tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger engine mounts I'm afraid they lied. The Anchor Industries box has "Made In Korea" on it. -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark Rense Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 8:21 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger engine mounts Summit Racing has them for $8.95 each (no, that's not a typo). They are made right here in Cleveland, I'm sure they are OK for a 164 hp 260, but not my first choice for a 350 hp stroker motor. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ani-2220 http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ani-2221 Bugz -----Original Message----- From: David or Gary Franchi Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 2:10 PM To: rfraser@bluefrog.com; 'A.C.Tynes'; ironbeast@comcast.net; tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger engine mounts I checked around on the NET and found Anchor Industries makes the 2220 & 2221 engine mounts. I wrote them asking if they were made in the USA and the replied they were. (See below) Has anyone used these Anchor brand mounts on their Tiger? David Franchi ------------ Yes they are. Regards, John Leonard Anchor Industries 30775 Solon Industrial Parkway Solon, OH 44139 440-473-1414 x439 jtlanchor@oh.rr.com http://anchor-online.com/ _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimdamelio@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/wwwdg@webtv.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 4 21:35:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0824285B for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 21:35:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F230740569 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 21:34:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7SM31l00F0EPchoA3gTNQh; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 04:27:22 +0000 Received: from sz0058.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7gTN1l00B2yr1eL8MgTNlf; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 04:27:22 +0000 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 04:27:22 +0000 (UTC) From: genepadgett@comcast.net To: tigers@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1362457642; bh=19Brctxh8ElqHyFM3bwEYHPBKOnrpal5RuVC2IS5Nws=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=jb4ZOfAXMqTofRoOto597uqPx56Ih7k4VB62xWLpdO5dSPkdWG/xLxCzAsDB6as3+ y320QF7fpcv6L8h/fpaUALOO48hUkA+OtRXrRETgmGzdZecHB0hz9LZKZCEJlzCze1 9z8Lw63UsTlv+WBDHDvUMVX4/0wSyOFIHN6dLyMAJf9jpzjPnzivKgUltZbo4PoIH1 ew10mQcP9wz1xSARwz2akBlq6I65xUK2UYw/O7L4VXtQXPPl3+0UCJ8C6wZIeFbkK7 MvSzZV9KVKiGlr1aGmgRxU3wRfb/wppCmTzVL0jqvxNdHwwLlFqDHQk7TYGzmw+YxF 1j7SOSVIy1r/g== Subject: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I am planning to install reversing lamps when the motor and trans are re-installed in my Mark IA. My shifter is a Hurst competition plus and I have the Hurst switch made for it that triggers the lights when reverse is engaged. I seem to remember from somewhere that the factory wiring harness may have wires already in it for such lamps. If so, where do I access the power to the switch and route it back to the bundle to get to the lights? If there are not wires currently in the harness, where do people pick up the power and how do they route it to the lamps? One possibility that occurs to me is to tap into the line that feeds the fuel pump. Any information on exactly where they should be located on the rear valence under the fender would also be appreciated. BTW, the lamps I have are similar the rectangular Wipacs, but are made by Lucas (same ones that were used on the DB4's I believe). Thanks, Gene _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 4 21:44:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7FF44286A for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 21:44:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc3-s22.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s22.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A09A4041B for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2013 21:40:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU169-W57 ([65.55.116.74]) by blu0-omc3-s22.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 4 Mar 2013 20:33:23 -0800 From: Brent Edinger To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 20:33:22 -0800 FILETIME=[92642230:01CE195A] Subject: [Tigers] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I just installed an aluminum Fluidyne radiator and when it came time to install the fan shroud I found the thickness of the new radiator won't allow it to be installed. There is about a half inch gap between the fwd edge of the shroud and the aft edge of the radiator support, Any tricks to this? I built a little splice plate and It's installed but it doesn't look good and I can see air will leak around over the top of the radiator. Brent _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 5 05:09:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 314A0428F2 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 05:09:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from wh-qmail02b.webhero.com (wh-qmailb02.webhero.com [209.217.42.22]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C89C40E1B for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 05:09:14 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 23476 invoked by uid 10000); 5 Mar 2013 12:01:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO HPLaptop) (70.174.51.228) by wh-qmail02b.webhero.com with SMTP; 5 Mar 2013 12:01:38 -0000 From: To: Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 07:01:34 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4ZmS5037WspGssQSey48UXq0tFbw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Still having trouble trying to find an original clutch fork for the 260 5 blot bell housing. I thought it would be best to address the issue to the digest members for help to an alternate solution and more info on the specs for the current parts. If anyone knows of a good source for the original please chime in. Since my fork is missing and the engine is at the shop and the transmission out of the car I need some help with dimensions of a good original fork for both the Mk.I and Mk.II cars. I've attached an annotated photo showing a similar fork showing dimensions needed. For those of you who have access to your parts, would you please send the dimensions back to me and I'll try to find the most suitable replacement. Not noted in the photo is the diameter of the transmission input shaft retainer (the large flanged piece that surrounds the input shaft and on which the throwout bearing slides). If you can add that dimension as "DI" that would also be a help. Please send dimensions to the digest or to me at johnp@ciseast.com . If the photo/drawing doesn't make it to the digest just send an email and I'll reply with the photo. We are amazingly lucky that our Tigers Are sbf ford based so that the popularity of Mustangs, Falcons, Fairlanes, Cobras and everything else makes our finding engines parts and information so easy. Imagine what it would be like if our engines were Packard or Nash based. This might also be a time and place to mention the wealth of sbf part information at www.mustangtek.net . Anyone who hasn't seen that sight will be pleasantly surprised with an instant education on Ford part numbers and where they were used. Remember to include the "DI" dimension on your response and to indicate whether the dimensions are from a Mk.I or Mk.II. CZ05-7515-B_dim.JPG [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of CZ05-7515-B_dim.JPG] _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 5 05:39:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CF294068C for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 05:39:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f180.google.com (mail-qc0-f180.google.com [209.85.216.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B97544056B for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 05:34:24 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id v28so1108830qcm.39 for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 04:26:48 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=fQPRIgDidlplSIu3jiYrSN9DkAjXEz/FT953an9bJhg=; b=tOHtkTU7Q18v3zQeK7kbIDnYgR8uGLzg9eRnd8aI/NVFOhWYl5EUdk8+x/0pTBTN0z hXekkdAXLWSot4f14ZZfFgf/uvbS+ZsWBTIrAQY790bVB/hA/NyQRrxWkRcS9cjQGNpM nAW0H5NNnKTZJo4expzoxTTrlZagoywPGriNqPUBAli5I4/094edxVggKbUfhaDIygAv MQDT4PcWkzXJKt8lQAac2uUJKkIhWPvuiitSpgwWSstVI6wNr8jAmMR0fA55tvFK9txe BalAEKmx3RjIHGjLQcpztjQb8yS4vjwQ5tMEO0RqWh0OXA1RMfSipp2Y23s49Z87qdTC nf3Q== j9mr39164748qap.82.1362486408349; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 04:26:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.129.69 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 04:26:48 -0800 (PST) References: <024201ce1999$2fa36090$8eea21b0$@com> Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 07:26:48 -0500 From: Jeffery Randall To: johnp@ciseast.com Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I'd try Mustangs Unlimited in Connecticut. Jeff On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 7:01 AM, wrote: > Still having trouble trying to find an original clutch fork for the 260 5 > blot bell housing. > > > > I thought it would be best to address the issue to the digest members for > help to an alternate solution and more info on the specs for the current > parts. > > If anyone knows of a good source for the original please chime in. Since > my > fork is missing and the engine is at the shop and the transmission out of > the car I need some help with dimensions of a good original fork for both > the Mk.I and Mk.II cars. I've attached an annotated photo showing a > similar fork showing dimensions needed. For those of you who have access > to > your parts, would you please send the dimensions back to me and I'll try to > find the most suitable replacement. Not noted in the photo is the diameter > of the transmission input shaft retainer (the large flanged piece that > surrounds the input shaft and on which the throwout bearing slides). If > you > can add that dimension as "DI" that would also be a help. Please send > dimensions to the digest or to me at johnp@ciseast.com . If the > photo/drawing doesn't make it to the digest just send an email and I'll > reply with the photo. We are amazingly lucky that our Tigers > > Are sbf ford based so that the popularity of Mustangs, Falcons, Fairlanes, > Cobras and everything else makes our finding engines parts and information > so easy. Imagine what it would be like if our engines were Packard or Nash > based. This might also be a time and place to mention the wealth of sbf > part information at www.mustangtek.net . Anyone who hasn't seen that > sight > will be pleasantly surprised with an instant education on Ford part numbers > and where they were used. > > Remember to include the "DI" dimension on your response and to indicate > whether the dimensions are from a Mk.I or Mk.II. > > CZ05-7515-B_dim.JPG > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > CZ05-7515-B_dim.JPG] > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jefferyrandall@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 5 07:30:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B7B42900 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 07:30:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F318240E25 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 07:30:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (omta001.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r25EIqGv026802; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 06:22:40 -0800 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4348622d) id dm0213.510c296b.4bf466; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 06:22:33 -0800 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.176.80]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 14:22:32 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: , Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 09:22:29 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4ZWcNRrBjNRXaMRZGbPNHnyL+5VAAUMNUw engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-05_06:2013-03-05,2013-03-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1211240000 definitions=main-1303050105 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Gene Difficult to get to the wires right now but here is what I remember. Reversing lamps - green wire to the switch - green/ brown wire from switch to lamps - see Sunbeam wire diagram in Shop Manual. Wire connector should be at the left kick panel with the harness that run to the rear of the car. I ran the wires for the switch under the carpet to the left side. I don't believe there is a wire for the lamps running to the rear. I think all of that would be in the Lamp Kit. You need to add the wire to the back along the wire harness at the bottom of the left door sill. Run the new wire across with the fuel cross over pipe. I believe the right tail light wire harness is there. Make connections for the reversing lamps and add ground wires Connect battery - check lamp function. I believe that is correct. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of genepadgett@comcast.net Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 11:27 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring I am planning to install reversing lamps when the motor and trans are re-installed in my Mark IA. My shifter is a Hurst competition plus and I have the Hurst switch made for it that triggers the lights when reverse is engaged. I seem to remember from somewhere that the factory wiring harness may have wires already in it for such lamps. If so, where do I access the power to the switch and route it back to the bundle to get to the lights? If there are not wires currently in the harness, where do people pick up the power and how do they route it to the lamps? One possibility that occurs to me is to tap into the line that feeds the fuel pump. Any information on exactly where they should be located on the rear valence under the fender would also be appreciated. BTW, the lamps I have are similar the rectangular Wipacs, but are made by Lucas (same ones that were used on the DB4's I believe). Thanks, Gene _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 5 08:13:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770D842900 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 08:13:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f172.google.com (mail-ie0-f172.google.com [209.85.223.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BD940E25 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 08:11:46 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f172.google.com with SMTP id c10so7943800ieb.3 for ; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 07:04:10 -0800 (PST) s=google; h=x-received:message-id:content-type:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:date:subject:from:in-reply-to :references:to:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance; bh=qftydzstZaNUO7pvra8kkGGsHLsVvgvRaGSuYFJd2yY=; b=DzJnJ8LD6ZGeMPA/dYrbGr8wIPb3yrenB74AuS/N6+l6PDM6HXxN5HfJE7Zkk9xOmZ 4N4/+GPYMk9GRrlscWa6WWkMhl3NcJYkTuoJb9/kf0Ued0pnC/JjMmefx4z7I+RSwUCx Qas8cRozvXhNFdx576dFQuCb/vdDtP5Vm4oX0= d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:content-type:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:date:subject:from:in-reply-to :references:to:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance :x-gm-message-state; bh=qftydzstZaNUO7pvra8kkGGsHLsVvgvRaGSuYFJd2yY=; b=oJ00i/qlKxkPq5neIerNAIWR/BszLUa6diMGAH0WLtKklIJaKK+gPqpKN0vCz8ATL+ zXWJC08kFz381pTk/p3VHiG35M9CFdKiczZYYgAeG1vA2d9BAZwC279NSTjLJX0lW/iE Teq0a0YkvlMUf6evMXsPmW6pL2egxU2rz4DKWIlgsyBP8A1FsK2OUSNGKb6IPs9+An5u yqRP50cf5hUPo94QSM0fYcBJ6D4EV9bT5U1HhVRLkxNhIzkaiV++aKGwqE8GF/VeNd5w KufbVECYL12VxPeX0MYIyc+k0w/MPGYe0C+fkMpmgh7wKvGBTch9eDPG7SW1fjHuCHVO 5ddg== bi8mr6195813igb.52.1362495850631; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 07:04:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([24.114.23.42]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ew5sm17778078igc.2.2013.03.05.07.04.07 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Mar 2013 07:04:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 07:04:09 -0800 (PST) From: dave@munroe.ca References: <1173026748.188516.1362457642281.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <70688824F65C491CBDF64AC888DFC45B@ronpc1> To: rfraser@bluefrog.com, genepadgett@comcast.net, tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 5 08:15:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73CA242924 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 08:15:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C783140E28 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 08:15:15 -0700 (MST) s=alpha; t=1362496058; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=To:Date:Subject:Content-Type:From:Message-Id; b=pBq++yaXxtiEv+DoL49IfU3B6/extP9jY/E2KtTIh4lRUAwDDfZFO/NmePDg1Msad r/jYMaGx/RC75rkE5UhpGRL33pFbbEJSLalfLvDK4RUKPpklJ8Z7U0WuV3xaImxwey YGjRPs+/niD+Y/k/DvfDmZPLSh6kuujECDdqUfzw= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (mailpop14.vgs.untd.com [10.181.45.34]) by smtpout04.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABJVNCSSA5UT7G2 for (sender ); Tue, 5 Mar 2013 07:06:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from spmdr@juno.com) by mailpop14.vgs.untd.com (jqueuemail) id SYF8HWRG; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 07:06:53 PST To: tigers@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 07:06:25 -0800 From: spmdr@juno.com Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Torque Arms Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Yet another public service notice... 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(69.54.100.246) by cumulus.air-internet.com with SMTP; 5 Mar 2013 15:35:40 -0000 Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2013 07:35:36 -0800 From: Larry Mayfield Organization: Mayfield Motorsport User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 To: tigers@autox.team.net References: <1173026748.188516.1362457642281.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <70688824F65C491CBDF64AC888DFC45B@ronpc1> <51360969.c5b8320a.4c9f.5f7d@mx.google.com> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 5 10:48:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A974299C for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:48:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D5C64294B for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:43:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7rBc1l0090FhH24A2tbvgC; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:35:55 +0000 Received: from sz0058.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7tbv1l0082yr1eL8UtbvVy; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:35:55 +0000 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:35:55 +0000 (UTC) From: genepadgett@comcast.net To: johnp@ciseast.com s=q20121106; t=1362504955; bh=IkpjnnZZnEGeXqGAd1MHzSPya8Yvvdx2b6/HEFe8nlE=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=sKM+nQottBG1POq8pIrPrt+K+iusPRl42RnzWQkOM45kGzoRl+k5Q7dut3dV6ykHW M5PZPMSiGzacDGFW+CkEeOgttXP5/vgAguhyHa8QeuxKXJtgwnQVv6GY3Mt31MU1qK yQkSuvxAkMVARQ+bo35QvDAl4s9O/72fmHnorLLNB7/NXzxQctmN54gyJuEYPn3GU2 MC1bSume4m2NbUySyea0nJ/m1QJWRlpSBT2BDxVf10fiKxVG6g7gH1FhWlHQWpH7W9 5xdxDEQfeIQhNTQmm+9MTNBbEAtbIWB/0t1ASdsdIzgveYTzlm2JEt4X64rGZJCI8a LkZILXTLpsTEg== Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net There is a response to a similar question on the CAT Forum a while back with a part number and source as well as info on how to modify a more frequently found fork to make it work. Never saw any response to it as to whether it worked out or not. Have a look at http://catmbr.org/VB_forum/showthread.php?t=1874&highlight=clutch+fork for the details. My trans and clutch are out of my car right now too. If the info in the above link does not work for you, I can make a hand drawing of the fork end with approximate dimensions and e-mail it to you if you still need it. Let me know. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffery Randall" To: johnp@ciseast.com Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 6:26:48 AM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... I'd try Mustangs Unlimited in Connecticut. Jeff On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 7:01 AM, wrote: > Still having trouble trying to find an original clutch fork for the 260 5 > blot bell housing. > > > > I thought it would be best to address the issue to the digest members for > help to an alternate solution and more info on the specs for the current > parts. > > If anyone knows of a good source for the original please chime in. Since > my > fork is missing and the engine is at the shop and the transmission out of > the car I need some help with dimensions of a good original fork for both > the Mk.I and Mk.II cars. I've attached an annotated photo showing a > similar fork showing dimensions needed. For those of you who have access > to > your parts, would you please send the dimensions back to me and I'll try to > find the most suitable replacement. Not noted in the photo is the diameter > of the transmission input shaft retainer (the large flanged piece that > surrounds the input shaft and on which the throwout bearing slides). If > you > can add that dimension as "DI" that would also be a help. Please send > dimensions to the digest or to me at johnp@ciseast.com . If the > photo/drawing doesn't make it to the digest just send an email and I'll > reply with the photo. We are amazingly lucky that our Tigers > > Are sbf ford based so that the popularity of Mustangs, Falcons, Fairlanes, > Cobras and everything else makes our finding engines parts and information > so easy. Imagine what it would be like if our engines were Packard or Nash > based. This might also be a time and place to mention the wealth of sbf > part information at www.mustangtek.net . Anyone who hasn't seen that > sight > will be pleasantly surprised with an instant education on Ford part numbers > and where they were used. > > Remember to include the "DI" dimension on your response and to indicate > whether the dimensions are from a Mk.I or Mk.II. > > CZ05-7515-B_dim.JPG > > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of > CZ05-7515-B_dim.JPG] > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jefferyrandall@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/genepadgett@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 5 10:48:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0E4429A7 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:48:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.154]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2A39A40401 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 10:45:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.151] by nm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Mar 2013 17:38:19 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.240] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Mar 2013 17:38:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1049.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Mar 2013 17:38:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 11345 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Mar 2013 17:38:19 -0000 s=s1024; t=1362505099; bh=VrPQGmZZqunQphhbSMOVXG0ZdbK/dEPRHZChuxB1RpM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fAy7ta9+wqaIXNXArJr3riz0rhIvTlRwMCZTSzq+GLByfS10hLly5NZCVV3nhvINd26iQwaQDwB+OibXiiuPgoiI3C2AWv6OFcP8Ial8LA/NgwYeOntfXLLCfbeAMfVtsAomU6W8DXZI3kXylIXuqyyIHejS+GMSg5bQUIn7Uo4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tXwQDuAzNeOUGCJGGCNhEjes4PJKGgCMDJi4qqTOEToH1NwcBCNd7pRN4O+6kHxDQjlzKut4iyC7qsW4D0QJ32hZ1BzDM73DuS8omVvqaKHfVxvvXJGvcnCGWzfBRn5s65uir9bqP/wV6ju2EGS9rcfg/LhORH2cTNEDhbux+zQ=; GPjR.e22UUftKgCB4fVHhapIJ.jke4S1.oaMxm2t2j0hurqRvQky17fFZ3rQ QNsnaSdbytmQvOy65l0.8MPC6j5R_SgOR4N9CPOjm8FNCzGJWYHnI4P3yMTu MLv.oYwNSk.0eT_QQBxoTe.qCNtw3ws61QHJhX2kdQmD6rVbzaxC3JnosrEs yzp5o.Ewj10dkoxX_jzvxdNWLuxjNDoAIX0uECuIOdPNTBsldaYreLxKQbmN BGJ6yBOOEfYvDnKO6Kxi4uN3Rmd0zgi6DT6fd.MoufQRQYzxQfuS9zzVqKHK XKyXhre61nD5gaOkcbv.STVJZhLvlFT1TSxO5cowcQEO0h5ek7nbt3VwAYfv 64YYs0XkOtmoq4GndX.d58dLWtpJSCNdP3qh.l4GCeq0LbHHK0HFbDTeqtfY WMWQuUC1dRwsF4i_xZJNevTT8f974hwq9v2CCwxEHRzAH0hEQqMFbIWpC9jq b31gy.Kx3ckMSebUwBzOrkVyRMihhU_we2Hz61divZFCT5XRl8m43RVkCcaj exQ2rX7j5899Csg-- Received: from [63.142.116.58] by web162203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 09:38:19 PST SUYgYW55b25lIG9uIHdoYXQgSSBjYWxsICdUaGUgTGlzdCIgaGFzIGFueSBpZGVhIHdoeSBEb2MgTWF5ZnMgcG9zdCBhcmUgc2hvd2luZyB1cCBibGFuaywgcGxlYXNlIHBvc3QgdGhlIHNvbHV0aW9uIE9SIGF0IG1pbmltdW0gbGV0IGhpbSBrbm93LCBhcyBpdCBub3Qgb25seSBhZ2dlcnZhdGVzIG1lIHdoZW7CoEkgY2FudCByZWFkIGhpcyB0aG91Z2h0cyBvciBxdWVzdGlvbnMgb24gYSBzdWJqZWN0LCBJIGtub3cgaXQgaGFzIGhpbSB1cHNldMKgIHRvby4gWW91IHdvdWxkIGJlIGFzIHdlbGwuIFRoYW5rcyABMAEBAQE- References: <1173026748.188516.1362457642281.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <70688824F65C491CBDF64AC888DFC45B@ronpc1> <51360969.c5b8320a.4c9f.5f7d@mx.google.com> <513610C8.1020502@mayfco.com> Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 09:38:19 -0800 (PST) From: Tony Lang To: "drmayf@mayfco.com" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net IF anyone on what I call 'The List" has any idea why Doc Mayfs post are showing up blank, please post the solution OR at minimum let him know, as it not only aggervates me when I cant read his thoughts or questions on a subject, I know it has him upset too. You would be as well. Thanks in advance for anyone who might help him and our group. Regards! Tony Lang (TtT) From: Larry Mayfield >To: tigers@autox.team.net >Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 9:35 AM >Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring > > >_______________________________________________ > >tigers@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/achd73@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 5 12:57:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2104F42A4A for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:57:45 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3CDF42A32 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 12:57:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004960.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r25JgkZf015760; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:50:00 -0800 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4018b235) id dm0213.510c296b.4cab32; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 11:49:36 -0800 From: " Ron Fraser" To: , Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 14:49:32 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4ZyJErLHY1qF5wQqa2Qecd0qvsRQAEGvqg engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-05_07:2013-03-05,2013-03-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1211240000 definitions=main-1303050176 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Gene Since the C3AZ-7515-A part is no longer available, I suggest you take pictures and document your Tiger clutch fork for the Tiger community. The CAT forum indicates the Tiger clutch fork is 9 1/4" long The replacement listed on the CAT Forum - Mustangs Unlimited part # 37515B 01 - $59.95 That replacement clutch fork appears to be for 65/66 6 cyl - C3DZ-7515-B I can not verify this. I don't have the parts available to compare. Hopefully others will join in on this thread to verify a replacement clutch fork for the Tiger without going to a hydraulic throw out bearing. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of genepadgett@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:36 PM To: johnp@ciseast.com Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... There is a response to a similar question on the CAT Forum a while back with a part number and source as well as info on how to modify a more frequently found fork to make it work. Never saw any response to it as to whether it worked out or not. Have a look at http://catmbr.org/VB_forum/showthread.php?t=1874&highlight=clutch+fork for the details. My trans and clutch are out of my car right now too. If the info in the above link does not work for you, I can make a hand drawing of the fork end with approximate dimensions and e-mail it to you if you still need it. Let me know. Gene - _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 5 13:38:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E36F242A77 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 13:38:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from wh-qmail03.webhero.com (wh-qmail03.webhero.com [209.217.42.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C788A42A21 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 13:38:07 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 3606 invoked by uid 10000); 5 Mar 2013 20:30:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO HPLaptop) (70.174.51.228) by wh-qmail03.webhero.com with SMTP; 5 Mar 2013 20:30:51 -0000 From: To: , References: <192489724.206469.1362504955370.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <227E16A8512B4737B99909AB197E0557@ronpc1> Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 15:30:26 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4ZyJErLHY1qF5wQqa2Qecd0qvsRQAEGvqgAAFbyAA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Ron, You mention the reference stating the length of the C3AZ-7515-A fork being 9-1/4", all other references to that part number list the length as 10". That's the kind of confusion that exists between various vendors and lists. Hopefully we can get it right this time. The post dropped the photo with desired measurement points so I will happily email the photo/drawing to anyone who requests. Request at johnp@ciseast.com . An additional item responders might include is any part numbers stamped into the part and a photo. john . -----Original Message----- From: Ron Fraser [mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 2:50 PM To: genepadgett@comcast.net; johnp@ciseast.com Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... Gene Since the C3AZ-7515-A part is no longer available, I suggest you take pictures and document your Tiger clutch fork for the Tiger community. The CAT forum indicates the Tiger clutch fork is 9 1/4" long The replacement listed on the CAT Forum - Mustangs Unlimited part # 37515B 01 - $59.95 That replacement clutch fork appears to be for 65/66 6 cyl - C3DZ-7515-B I can not verify this. I don't have the parts available to compare. Hopefully others will join in on this thread to verify a replacement clutch fork for the Tiger without going to a hydraulic throw out bearing. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of genepadgett@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:36 PM To: johnp@ciseast.com Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... There is a response to a similar question on the CAT Forum a while back with a part number and source as well as info on how to modify a more frequently found fork to make it work. Never saw any response to it as to whether it worked out or not. Have a look at http://catmbr.org/VB_forum/showthread.php?t=1874&highlight=clutch+fork for the details. My trans and clutch are out of my car right now too. If the info in the above link does not work for you, I can make a hand drawing of the fork end with approximate dimensions and e-mail it to you if you still need it. Let me know. Gene - _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 5 14:22:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DA842A91 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 14:22:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail3.everyone.net [216.200.145.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741A542A08 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 14:18:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (omta004.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r25L8aYQ002539; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 13:11:13 -0800 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 401895b2) id dm0213.510c296b.4cd55f; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 13:10:52 -0800 From: " Ron Fraser" To: , Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 16:10:48 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4ZyJErLHY1qF5wQqa2Qecd0qvsRQAEGvqgAAFbyAAAAXtroA== engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-05_07:2013-03-05,2013-03-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1211240000 definitions=main-1303050199 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net John I only stated what I saw on the Cat Forum thread which did not specifically state which part # was 9 1/4" long. One catalog I have indicates that the 65 -68 289, 302 clutch fork is 9 1/4" long; that catalog also list the C3DZ-B clutch fork for the 260 V8 Comet and 6 cyl Falcon and Comet. I have no idea the correct length of the Tiger clutch fork. I'm hoping Gene or someone that has the C3AZ-A Tiger clutch fork handy will write in with the length. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: johnp@ciseast.com [mailto:johnp@ciseast.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 3:30 PM To: rfraser@bluefrog.com; tigers@autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... Ron, You mention the reference stating the length of the C3AZ-7515-A fork being 9-1/4", all other references to that part number list the length as 10". That's the kind of confusion that exists between various vendors and lists. Hopefully we can get it right this time. The post dropped the photo with desired measurement points so I will happily email the photo/drawing to anyone who requests. Request at johnp@ciseast.com . An additional item responders might include is any part numbers stamped into the part and a photo. john . -----Original Message----- From: Ron Fraser [mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 2:50 PM To: genepadgett@comcast.net; johnp@ciseast.com Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... Gene Since the C3AZ-7515-A part is no longer available, I suggest you take pictures and document your Tiger clutch fork for the Tiger community. The CAT forum indicates the Tiger clutch fork is 9 1/4" long The replacement listed on the CAT Forum - Mustangs Unlimited part # 37515B 01 - $59.95 That replacement clutch fork appears to be for 65/66 6 cyl - C3DZ-7515-B I can not verify this. I don't have the parts available to compare. Hopefully others will join in on this thread to verify a replacement clutch fork for the Tiger without going to a hydraulic throw out bearing. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of genepadgett@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 12:36 PM To: johnp@ciseast.com Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... There is a response to a similar question on the CAT Forum a while back with a part number and source as well as info on how to modify a more frequently found fork to make it work. Never saw any response to it as to whether it worked out or not. Have a look at http://catmbr.org/VB_forum/showthread.php?t=1874&highlight=clutch+fork for the details. My trans and clutch are out of my car right now too. If the info in the above link does not work for you, I can make a hand drawing of the fork end with approximate dimensions and e-mail it to you if you still need it. Let me know. Gene - ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2899 / Virus Database: 2641/6150 - Release Date: 03/05/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 5 15:14:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5EB942A8A for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 15:14:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775E642A58 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 15:13:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7y421l0011wfjNsA6y6Hyr; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 22:06:17 +0000 Received: from sz0058.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 7y6H1l00c2yr1eL8jy6Hbm; Tue, 05 Mar 2013 22:06:17 +0000 Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 22:06:17 +0000 (UTC) From: genepadgett@comcast.net To: johnp@ciseast.com s=q20121106; t=1362521177; bh=93+arrqSZn4ifhvEqnUlLe/ynrWX0Svao2qcriivNnU=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=gsE2DBdSYWTQNYqJGnviB9s7D8I4B8NSFv7CLBmRKsF3oyKt16EYp9YeIgSRNNAr/ TrtBVYOrfLpcjtR1ZOL+Io5LIWnUItGCdusce4dSmij0MUGuO8kBuY9yh5E3KFcKkf E8fnMO0sPQK39d1lpcsSjLmvt9jo4sDKxfiYsQbxbiq+RR7Epsi1yv0nnTFW0I4GUJ OuN+u0OI0KPkU+B5po1WUxNEY31BaG5wR2QPf67vD+IalPJMofrYmU+PIvyMUvC90d yDL6e1CiBmfEN4TWVVzKYfQW0voV8Fo63VG+cFYca5z88gx19oy1WY0qsEQiUKCrvj R7gh3lJTUVSEQ== Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: Clutch fork.... Still.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry, meant to reply to all. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: genepadgett@comcast.net To: johnp@ciseast.com Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2013 3:31:42 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... Hi John, Here are the dimensions of the fork from my Mark IA with stock close ratio trans. All dimensions in inches. L=10.5 IN=1.7 CC=2.4 SE-4.5 SD=5.0 SP=DNK The ID of the throwout bearing is 1.445. My new one is Centerforce PN2439. My old one (not oem by now!) measures about 1.440. The extended tip by the dimple on the end is squared off rather than rounded like your overlay drawing on your pic. I trust you have the fulcrum retaining spring/clip as well as the clip that holds the slave cylinder rod end in the dimple. I have a source for the fulcrum clip if you need it. Let me know if you need any other info. Gene ----- Original Message ----- _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 6 14:04:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF414249E for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:04:26 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f49.google.com (mail-pb0-f49.google.com [209.85.160.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABE0440E41 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:03:59 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f49.google.com with SMTP id xa12so6586892pbc.36 for ; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 13:03:26 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=7fW2AANhwlztWg6s4CsCaAdPGa+YJV0w7r54dwD8Fp0=; b=ZiW4aVf1OBuIiHnbA8VuEoxWCRnXTpnZH+PdAgtpjmtOJ+lLgmHM3kc5c8GwXeZAfY NWJanESbY6jy0Xq/+980w2vw6+KVzGGtQIzSY2MxMZqsQZgIpfDf8jxAvqFVoF6kJ7ug Xr8zGfqlX6J3z7J+6TSLw0KU2ypYfaVHRgODhuxhO3Mis2gDovsL99Lm/1NpP+YSq1c4 MJbWNFMZE7Ol8E7Vka1XEbII9Fet9mlylNSH99BRFR20pZmKrmKgMMVa+Xv3SrD6ALZT JErK2D5sBGiXE4ArU8ANk7SQ3dUGxMuE7VUIA+b75vBEVoiw6h9GagIFo/MXvlbjTuLY xe4w== Tue, 05 Mar 2013 20:34:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.68.176 with HTTP; Tue, 5 Mar 2013 20:34:18 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2013 23:34:18 -0500 From: Alexander Washick To: Brent Edinger Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Brent Where did you get this radiator? I don't even see that they list one for a Tiger. Was it custom made? I have a aluminum radiator that is from Dale's Restorations in Cal.and it fits perfect and solved all of my cooling problems and I run a mildly modified 302 with air conditioning on a daily basis and I live in Florida. Many believe that his is same as Griffin's but that is not the case for many years. He designed his own they are made for him. It is a great product and out performs the Griffin! How do I know? A few years ago, I called Dale to see if he had a Griffin and I didn't want to wait for the Griffin to be made to order. He took the time to explain what differences were and it sure proved right for me as I had used all the cooling mods listed on Tigers United and others and was still having big problems!! If this Fluidyne was made to fit your car and doesn't then I would send it back and talk to Dale. Al On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Brent Edinger wrote: > I just installed an aluminum Fluidyne radiator and when it came time > to install the fan shroud I found the thickness of the new radiator > won't allow it to be installed. There is about a half inch gap between > the fwd edge of the shroud and the aft edge of the radiator support, > Any tricks to this? I built a little splice plate and It's installed but it > doesn't look good and I can see air will leak around over the top of the > radiator. > > Brent > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/alw6464@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 6 14:23:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC04A424B5 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:23:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm8.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm8.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.209]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C16842460 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:23:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from [66.94.237.197] by nm8.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Mar 2013 21:23:11 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.118] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Mar 2013 21:23:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Mar 2013 21:23:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 44829 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Mar 2013 21:23:11 -0000 s=s1024; t=1362604990; bh=PNa9h9BJNRuloWpBVoj3eq5HVUNnJbA+IMQ786H/NZE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=Vfu3a3iauL455KtPlt64rbD4TltvyP5vi0hetewwd1RwqzFlIkvd6+xPtKzrsqbGtsO1AFl4CaLmG3PB6ifErhiuw1hc0iO2YEiEpbG3P+MXLMKL+negsRMNoNSzJcQDS0gwazibXa6yxWF3xS4493W95trZZC8r2CpYb8FZBPE= s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=K/TdSwx/Ujim0qPu617uO7avW8D27AGynUNREvtv1uir0g7e3xOaPnXEiMJtamGR/z9ErYeaVgtKrxWgTph30K7+7UaCV1BAmSM7a7Ee/p0u2r4QCvmxRf7NiWyr5JtYZgslilUCdBUeS64T8d/UnWgJ3/uOS1/yG/7R+H2W6EQ=; de9zjYUC_B6VXmBauOxDcfciEYAwP3QXyoCigOpiZ_fySoVfkbaQQyjwAdJE z7Y5A3dBet6gtOJMhm9UEKxnI8dFNiueDt.A94ZdXbsiP_tjlkgnpxR_BbUi 1m6jtNy_UsCdFpL.qzeeAJsGcV2rhApmjW3HdbYrIWpyNnqoUwD9gRBzQWUd VaGb5pqR1BK3Dp._GMijiGw5l2sWLr6Zoh6TNaO.TvDZezXqcH_qgMwTpMBU jS248v5DLuUc77mkO3611xI.NZSpmd45GThXd.GRykTQKJ9m96q7c0.FCSH1 n8lUo1Rjn7cX7P3wzgR_RsZFvxIvDLLiu2CjmtF4tLqAuGTlCx6G4pwa2bGU uHzUH6zwd7HusYrcrfH6SdUGVLbj48qjfOVwR8NFOqiALwIr3qcWlkcxxf2Y YkPRj2MGP9wd7p8_WJT3npqxBbnzkFe57ZfZBF3P7uneVySXx8Nh2Zydr46m UercwZym.nEU5icUy3IOKHhN6ESWvXTK3PmyCaXi.2aToDf8QxFqUI54um48 3AowMXQ-- Received: from [96.39.235.88] by web184405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 06 Mar 2013 13:23:10 PST Rmx1aWR5bmUgaGFzZW4ndCBtYWRlIHRoZSByYWRpYXRvcsKgZm9yIHRoZSBUaWdlciBpbiBhIG51bWJlciBvZiB5ZWFycy4gSSBnb3QgCmx1Y2t5IGNhbiBnb3Qgb25lIGZyb20gc29tZW9uZSBOSUIgb2ZmIG9mIEVQYXkgZm9yIG1pZCAkMzAwJ3MgYW5kIHdhcyBnbGFkIHRvIApnZXQgaXQuIEl0J3MgYSB2ZXJ5IHRoaWNrIHJhZGlhdG9yLCBhbmQgdGhlIG9uZSB0aGF0IEkgaGF2ZSBpcyBhIDIgcGFzcyAKcmFkaWF0b3IuIEkgZG8gbm90IGhhdmUgaXQgaW4gdGhlIGNhciBub3cgYnV0IGl0IHdpbGwgZ28gaW4BMAEBAQE- References: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 13:23:10 -0800 (PST) From: Sandy Ganz To: Alexander Washick , Brent Edinger Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fluidyne hasen't made the radiator for the Tiger in a number of years. I got lucky can got one from someone NIB off of EPay for mid $300's and was glad to get it. It's a very thick radiator, and the one that I have is a 2 pass radiator. I do not have it in the car now but it will go in with the new motor some day. I have the Griffin in the car now and it's a nice radiator better then stock, but looks to have much less cooling capacity then the Fluidyne and much less substantial in the manufacturing area. The Griffin fit without much trouble and seems to work fine with the stock 260 that's in the car. I did not run a shroud on the Griffin, but I think it would fit without much trouble but I think it would be needed if I really drove the car more. I was just too lazy to put it on. I don't know how the shroud fits on the fluidyne but I would imagine it might take more work to make it fit given the different dimension. That being said I have only looked at it in the box so might be a more or less work. Also I think one other place that makes custom radiators in Arizona (Davis???) has one for the Tiger but can't rember the name, it was like $600+ as I recall and weeks to fab. I have run various Fluidyne radiators in my other car and they are well made product and if you have the 2 pass model it's a good one but not sure if other styles were made. Sandy ----- Original Message ---- From: Alexander Washick To: Brent Edinger Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Sent: Wed, March 6, 2013 1:03:47 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Aluminum Radiator Brent Where did you get this radiator? I don't even see that they list one for a Tiger. Was it custom made? I have a aluminum radiator that is from Dale's Restorations in Cal.and it fits perfect and solved all of my cooling problems and I run a mildly modified 302 with air conditioning on a daily basis and I live in Florida. Many believe that his is same as Griffin's but that is not the case for many years. He designed his own they are made for him. It is a great product and out performs the Griffin! How do I know? A few years ago, I called Dale to see if he had a Griffin and I didn't want to wait for the Griffin to be made to order. He took the time to explain what differences were and it sure proved right for me as I had used all the cooling mods listed on Tigers United and others and was still having big problems!! If this Fluidyne was made to fit your car and doesn't then I would send it back and talk to Dale. Al On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Brent Edinger wrote: > I just installed an aluminum Fluidyne radiator and when it came time > to install the fan shroud I found the thickness of the new radiator > won't allow it to be installed. There is about a half inch gap between > the fwd edge of the shroud and the aft edge of the radiator support, > Any tricks to this? I built a little splice plate and It's installed but it > doesn't look good and I can see air will leak around over the top of the > radiator. > > Brent > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/alw6464@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sganz@pacbell.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 6 15:14:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB30A42528 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:14:36 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s25.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s25.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8A04249E for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 15:14:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU169-W76 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s25.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:13:43 -0800 From: Brent Edinger To: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 14:13:42 -0800 References: , <1362604990.19333.YahooMailRC@web184405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> FILETIME=[DD6E6520:01CE1AB7] Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I just bought the Fluidyne 2 weeks ago from Dale. It fits good except that it is thicker and the shroud won't fit up to the radiator core support. I put spacers on the bottom 2 bolts but the top is 1/2 inch short of lining up with the screw hole. I'm going to fabricate some kind of plate to attach it to and blank off the gap. Running a high hp motor doesn't work well without the shroud. Brent > Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 13:23:10 -0800 > From: sganz@pacbell.net > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Aluminum Radiator > To: alw6464@gmail.com; banana111@msn.com > CC: tigers@autox.team.net > > Fluidyne hasen't made the radiator for the Tiger in a number of years. I got > lucky can got one from someone NIB off of EPay for mid $300's and was glad to > get it. It's a very thick radiator, and the one that I have is a 2 pass > radiator. I do not have it in the car now but it will go in with the new motor > some day. I have the Griffin in the car now and it's a nice radiator better then > stock, but looks to have much less cooling capacity then the Fluidyne and much > less substantial in the manufacturing area. The Griffin fit without much trouble > and seems to work fine with the stock 260 that's in the car. I did not run a > shroud on the Griffin, but I think it would fit without much trouble but I think > it would be needed if I really drove the car more. I was just too lazy to put it > on. > > I don't know how the shroud fits on the fluidyne but I would imagine it might > take more work to make it fit given the different dimension. That being said I > have only looked at it in the box so might be a more or less work. Also I think > one other place that makes custom radiators in Arizona (Davis???) has one for > the Tiger but can't rember the name, it was like $600+ as I recall and weeks to > fab. I have run various Fluidyne radiators in my other car and they are well > made product and if you have the 2 pass model it's a good one but not sure if > other styles were made. > > Sandy > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Alexander Washick > To: Brent Edinger > Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" > Sent: Wed, March 6, 2013 1:03:47 PM > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Aluminum Radiator > > Brent Where did you get this radiator? I don't even see that they list > one for a Tiger. Was it custom made? I have a aluminum radiator that is > from Dale's Restorations in Cal.and it fits perfect and solved all of my > cooling problems and I run a mildly modified 302 with air conditioning on a > daily basis and I live in Florida. Many believe that his is same as > Griffin's but that is not the case for many years. He designed his own they > are made for him. It is a great product and out performs the Griffin! How > do I know? A few years ago, I called Dale to see if he had a Griffin and I > didn't want to wait for the Griffin to be made to order. He took the time > to explain what differences were and it sure proved right for me as I had > used all the cooling mods listed on Tigers United and others and was still > having big problems!! If this Fluidyne was made to fit your car and doesn't > then I would send it back and talk to Dale. Al > > On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Brent Edinger wrote: > > > I just installed an aluminum Fluidyne radiator and when it came time > > to install the fan shroud I found the thickness of the new radiator > > won't allow it to be installed. There is about a half inch gap between > > the fwd edge of the shroud and the aft edge of the radiator support, > > Any tricks to this? I built a little splice plate and It's installed but it > > doesn't look good and I can see air will leak around over the top of the > > radiator. > > > > Brent > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/alw6464@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sganz@pacbell.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 6 18:11:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23BA1427B8 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 18:11:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF76426BE for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 18:11:36 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4442BA1013 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2013 18:12:58 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2013 18:12:57 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:18.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/18.0 SeaMonkey/2.15.2 To: Tiger's List Subject: [Tigers] By the way Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=141 mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 7 10:43:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B01B40522 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:43:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306A740435 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 10:43:21 -0700 (MST) Received: from optiplex3301 ([unknown] [173.58.135.61]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MJA0051NX73LYH1@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 11:42:40 -0600 (CST) From: "Thomas Witt" To: "Tony Lang" , , References: <1173026748.188516.1362457642281.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <70688824F65C491CBDF64AC888DFC45B@ronpc1> <51360969.c5b8320a.4c9f.5f7d@mx.google.com> <513610C8.1020502@mayfco.com> <1362505099.7968.YahooMailNeo@web162203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 09:42:40 -0800 Subject: [Tigers] Missing Text Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Not sure if it is the reason, but Mayf should check and make sure the postings are sending as Plain Text. At least in the past it was a requirement. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Lang" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring > IF anyone on what I call 'The List" has any idea why Doc Mayfs post are > showing up blank, please post the solution OR at minimum let him know, as > it > not only aggervates me when I cant read his thoughts or questions on a > subject, I know it has him upset too. You would be as well. Thanks in > advance > for anyone who might help him and our group. Regards! > > > Tony Lang (TtT) > From: Larry Mayfield >>To: tigers@autox.team.net >>Sent: > Tuesday, March 5, 2013 9:35 AM >>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 7 11:30:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D02540535 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:30:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE30403A0 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:29:57 -0700 (MST) Received: from BucksLaptop ([unknown] [173.58.229.205]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MJA00F3IZCQCEF6@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:29:15 -0600 (CST) From: "Buck Trippel" To: "Sandy Ganz" , "Alexander Washick" , "Brent Edinger" References: <1362604990.19333.YahooMailRC@web184405.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:29:00 -0800 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Aluminum Radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Actually Sandy, Fuidyne recently started making batches of aluminum radiators for Dale. Dale sells them for $550. The radiators are the stock configuration and can be painted black for those who want the stock look. Internally they have a new 3 row core that is about 2" thick in the fan area. When I last spoke to Dale he also had some of the radiators from the previous vendor still available. Buck Trippel ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandy Ganz" To: "Alexander Washick" ; "Brent Edinger" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Aluminum Radiator > Fluidyne hasen't made the radiator for the Tiger in a number of years. I > got > lucky can got one from someone NIB off of EPay for mid $300's and was glad > to > get it. It's a very thick radiator, and the one that I have is a 2 pass > radiator. I do not have it in the car now but it will go in with the new > motor > some day. I have the Griffin in the car now and it's a nice radiator > better > then > stock, but looks to have much less cooling capacity then the Fluidyne > and much > less substantial in the manufacturing area. The Griffin fit without > much trouble > and seems to work fine with the stock 260 that's in the car. I > did not run a > shroud on the Griffin, but I think it would fit without much > trouble but I think > it would be needed if I really drove the car more. I was > just too lazy to put it > on. > > I don't know how the shroud fits on the fluidyne > but I would imagine it might > take more work to make it fit given the > different dimension. That being said I > have only looked at it in the box so > might be a more or less work. Also I think > one other place that makes custom > radiators in Arizona (Davis???) has one for > the Tiger but can't rember the > name, it was like $600+ as I recall and weeks to > fab. I have run > various Fluidyne radiators in my other car and they are well > made product and > if you have the 2 pass model it's a good one but not sure if > other styles > were made. > > Sandy _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 7 11:56:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA22040445 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:56:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.air-internet.com (cumulus.air-internet.com [12.110.32.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 58CE24043B for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 11:55:41 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 4119 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2013 18:52:05 -0000 Received: from host-246.ennis.tx.speednet.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (69.54.100.246) by cumulus.air-internet.com with SMTP; 7 Mar 2013 18:52:04 -0000 Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 10:51:56 -0800 From: Larry Mayfield Organization: Mayfield Motorsport User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Test Message - Ignore Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Dang hope this is fixed now... -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 7 12:19:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482A840523 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:19:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DFDD4043C for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:17:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B9DDA1041 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 12:18:24 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:18:23 -0700 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16 To: tigers@autox.team.net References: <1173026748.188516.1362457642281.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <70688824F65C491CBDF64AC888DFC45B@ronpc1> <51360969.c5b8320a.4c9f.5f7d@mx.google.com> <513610C8.1020502@mayfco.com> <1362505099.7968.YahooMailNeo@web162203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Missing Text Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net His email program is sending out poorly formatted HTML. The HTML to text filter is confused and can't process it. mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 7 15:14:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD11406B3 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:14:32 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D6B640691 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 15:14:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130307221327.DTKC10448.mta21.charter.net@imp10>; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 17:13:27 -0500 Received: from NewDell ([66.189.206.21]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id 8mDR1l00l0UDqg205mDTnv; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 17:13:27 -0500 a=HcWPusqb6EG3sjxMffD/Kg==:17 a=ZU2uHWsI49EA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=sSrEDukUG8cA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=FiB-Z3FMnBpBmXnWeGIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=HcWPusqb6EG3sjxMffD/Kg==:117 From: To: , References: <5138E1CC.8050605@mayfco.com> Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2013 14:13:23 -0800 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Test Message - Ignore Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Read 5 X 5, Jerry and Marlene with the Candy Apple Tiger in Oregon. -----Original Message----- From: Larry Mayfield Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:51 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Test Message - Ignore Dang hope this is fixed now... -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jrv309@charter.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 7 18:14:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B50A403A5 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 18:14:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D071F4032C for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 18:14:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from homef2683adebd ([unknown] [173.78.146.47]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MJB00KR8I1VYRM0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Thu, 07 Mar 2013 19:13:19 -0600 (CST) From: "Scattt" To: , References: <1173026748.188516.1362457642281.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 20:13:18 -0500 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The lights on the Mk-II are mounted 3-5/8 inches down from the horizonital surface of the rear valance. They are 21-3/4 inches from each other. The Mk-II has a green wire origionating at the fuse block for power. I guess you could pick up power from the fuel pump wire although you could also take it from the red tail light wire. It would only work when the lights are on then. The wires to the switch feed behind the drivers seat and through the rear bulkhead on the left side of the console. There should be an existing hole plug in that location. The wire feeds forward through the Alpine exhaust hole to the switch. On the Mk-II there are tabs to secure the wires like the tabs on the fuel/brake lines. Hope this helps. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 11:27 PM Subject: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring >I am planning to install reversing lamps when the motor and trans are >re-installed in my Mark IA. My shifter is a Hurst competition plus and I >have the Hurst switch made for it that triggers the lights when reverse is >engaged. > > I seem to remember from somewhere that the factory wiring harness may have > wires already in it for such lamps. If so, where do I access the power to > the switch and route it back to the bundle to get to the lights? > > If there are not wires currently in the harness, where do people pick up > the power and how do they route it to the lamps? One possibility that > occurs to me is to tap into the line that feeds the fuel pump. > > Any information on exactly where they should be located on the rear > valence under the fender would also be appreciated. BTW, the lamps I have > are similar the rectangular Wipacs, but are made by Lucas (same ones that > were used on the DB4's I believe). > > Thanks, > > Gene > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/scattt@verizon.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 7 19:00:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DAA403F5 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:00:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.air-internet.com (cumulus.air-internet.com [12.110.32.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 678AC40333 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 19:00:39 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 7744 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2013 02:00:00 -0000 Received: from host-246.ennis.tx.speednet.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (69.54.100.246) by cumulus.air-internet.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2013 02:00:00 -0000 Date: Thu, 07 Mar 2013 17:59:54 -0800 From: Larry Mayfield Organization: Mayfield Motorsport User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Testing again: ignore unless nothing is in the message pane Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mark suggested I lose th colored background.. so I did for composition anyway. let's see.... mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 7 21:19:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F07E040E29 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:19:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CACF240334 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2013 21:19:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8rwQ1l0090FhH24AFsJfDj; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 04:18:39 +0000 Received: from sz0058.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 8sJf1l00S2yr1eL8UsJfne; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 04:18:39 +0000 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 04:18:39 +0000 (UTC) From: genepadgett@comcast.net To: tigers@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1362716319; bh=7QeNMl34+SC+cpVhikJN+zh7d1MWybRMeBx29MWg7bk=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=YN4CHe6DgoMQWz86sh7jRUTU9omqNeyVF8khKvgNHzu7EwqdCfm1zyws+H6tZBQ7t wI+HcsZc6mZo8F02aQ7Zf9kmA3isD4SuV5RNk8ds3ZCfBQ8nVgNfx1OWUgSb4rBje2 /d1WgkE10eyTr7tNA9sw1Xp6eoBGZzXqAMBdQ8PVLRcxkilDwuqunOB5iiljZ7QHCy wOLxKCauV0QIv0iXwz1MrddcglRFDJSQtRc56PdvHm7/69pqQe8EWRDvFWVcpbvdPE bXeAPB3YK/OYFdsxE7nT9M+DjikRrxoU+O6H1fJEPXJbJZbeC9+29dLpCgH2fLvp7a 61EA3LzhY0Bnw== Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Nick, Rande, Micheal, Ron, and Dave, Thanks guys for taking the time to respond and the info from all of you. Nick's very explicit dimensions are especially helpful, as are description and the pics Rande sent me directly, being the List does not pass pics along (yet). I have one remaining point of confusion. The dimensions that Nick gives closely match the location of dimples for the lights in a MarkII rear valence as I was able to deduct them in a pic that Rande sent. However, when I hold the light in that mounting position, it looks as though the outside edge of the lamp is almost vertically above the inboard side of my 2 inch exhaust pipe tip. That seems curiously close. Would anyone with a Mark II please confirm their Wipac lights are that close to the exhaust pipe? I realize I can give my lights a bit more clearance if I want, but if I am going to deviate from the standard, I would like at least to know the deviation is not being done out of ignorance! Thanks again everyone, Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scattt" To: genepadgett@comcast.net, tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 7:13:18 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring The lights on the Mk-II are mounted 3-5/8 inches down from the horizonital surface of the rear valance. They are 21-3/4 inches from each other. The Mk-II has a green wire origionating at the fuse block for power. I guess you could pick up power from the fuel pump wire although you could also take it from the red tail light wire. It would only work when the lights are on then. The wires to the switch feed behind the drivers seat and through the rear bulkhead on the left side of the console. There should be an existing hole plug in that location. The wire feeds forward through the Alpine exhaust hole to the switch. On the Mk-II there are tabs to secure the wires like the tabs on the fuel/brake lines. Hope this helps. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 11:27 PM Subject: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring >I am planning to install reversing lamps when the motor and trans are >re-installed in my Mark IA. My shifter is a Hurst competition plus and I >have the Hurst switch made for it that triggers the lights when reverse is >engaged. > > I seem to remember from somewhere that the factory wiring harness may have > wires already in it for such lamps. If so, where do I access the power to > the switch and route it back to the bundle to get to the lights? > > If there are not wires currently in the harness, where do people pick up > the power and how do they route it to the lamps? One possibility that > occurs to me is to tap into the line that feeds the fuel pump. > > Any information on exactly where they should be located on the rear > valence under the fender would also be appreciated. BTW, the lamps I have > are similar the rectangular Wipacs, but are made by Lucas (same ones that > were used on the DB4's I believe). > > Thanks, > > Gene > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/scattt@verizon.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 8 07:17:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB875428C6 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 07:17:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B79642880 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 07:16:52 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E45491C000087; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 09:16:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.77]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1D87EE000090; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 09:16:11 -0500 (EST) References: <1157392223.335172.1362716319378.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> To: genepadgett@comcast.net, tigers@autox.team.net From: phastphill@aol.com Received: from 66.87.4.190 by webmail-m178.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.135) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 08 Mar 2013 09:16:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 09:16:11 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1362752171; bh=qOiA9S1+8+Ea0bJU4KVYhHKxKUW1AHZov9sVRjtXHdw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=O8MEOeHIckPL61ptFmYrcahYm2esW1GggjDXqELXpLzS07+8D03rUIgCrO5PmOGas qRbN3gI5XxUZy4DozSXT++dc6bME3zdSXyNMDJym/HigkMZnYHsIlwW9Qi8YV3NoOE Fyj5uCKXeTFQ9LfoBF+A71UB9QN5FHQIPxYbSqbM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c5139f2ab65c2 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net yep my lights are just a bit closer to the center line of the car than the inside of the tips only couple of inches clearance on a bit of angle. no heat issues, ---- Original Message ---- From: genepadgett To: tigers Sent: Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:18 pm Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring Nick, Rande, Micheal, Ron, and Dave, Thanks guys for taking the time to respond and the info from all of you. Nick's very explicit dimensions are especially helpful, as are description and the pics Rande sent me directly, being the List does not pass pics along (yet). I have one remaining point of confusion. The dimensions that Nick gives closely match the location of dimples for the lights in a MarkII rear valence as I was able to deduct them in a pic that Rande sent. However, when I hold the light in that mounting position, it looks as though the outside edge of the lamp is almost vertically above the inboard side of my 2 inch exhaust pipe tip. That seems curiously close. Would anyone with a Mark II please confirm their Wipac lights are that close to the exhaust pipe? I realize I can give my lights a bit more clearance if I want, but if I am going to deviate from the standard, I would like at least to know the deviation is not being done out of ignorance! Thanks again everyone, Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scattt" To: genepadgett@comcast.net, tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 7:13:18 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring The lights on the Mk-II are mounted 3-5/8 inches down from the horizonital surface of the rear valance. They are 21-3/4 inches from each other. The Mk-II has a green wire origionating at the fuse block for power. I guess you could pick up power from the fuel pump wire although you could also take it from the red tail light wire. It would only work when the lights are on then. The wires to the switch feed behind the drivers seat and through the rear bulkhead on the left side of the console. There should be an existing hole plug in that location. The wire feeds forward through the Alpine exhaust hole to the switch. On the Mk-II there are tabs to secure the wires like the tabs on the fuel/brake lines. Hope this helps. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 11:27 PM Subject: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring >I am planning to install reversing lamps when the motor and trans are >re-installed in my Mark IA. My shifter is a Hurst competition plus and I >have the Hurst switch made for it that triggers the lights when reverse is >engaged. > > I seem to remember from somewhere that the factory wiring harness may have > wires already in it for such lamps. If so, where do I access the power to > the switch and route it back to the bundle to get to the lights? > > If there are not wires currently in the harness, where do people pick up > the power and how do they route it to the lamps? One possibility that > occurs to me is to tap into the line that feeds the fuel pump. > > Any information on exactly where they should be located on the rear > valence under the fender would also be appreciated. BTW, the lamps I have > are similar the rectangular Wipacs, but are made by Lucas (same ones that > were used on the DB4's I believe). > > Thanks, > > Gene > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/scattt@verizon.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/phastphill@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 8 07:17:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 111FA428F4 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 07:17:40 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70C86428C8 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 07:17:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.10]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7147D1C0000A9; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 09:16:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msa004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msa004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.77]) by mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1739DE00008E; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 09:16:35 -0500 (EST) References: <1157392223.335172.1362716319378.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> To: genepadgett@comcast.net, tigers@autox.team.net From: phastphill@aol.com Received: from 66.87.4.190 by webmail-m178.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.135) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 08 Mar 2013 09:16:34 -0500 Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2013 09:16:34 -0500 (EST) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1362752195; bh=+66ipWDjtcVlQvrb/KUzxYJkhCu+U4vROerhIfjA4xQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mOk1f7UiXL3lbHqH9bfvK3KqcbUdzIpopAs5VUSjN2FrUssDEcVw00MZNGRPHJh0E SxBAH804vB2ncRsvO52+Uir02Hc4KYTpvOexN5YK9CixgdjH6GxOX+zCt22KH6M/+7 msDvG44EfYo98mcr2JzvWvpkauGhpVcar8My02ko= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a5139f2c36850 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net My lights just a couple on inches away from tips, closer to center than the edge of tips.Thanks to Nick and the tampa bay crew my car now TACed, and as usual Nick knows the answers ---- Original Message ---- From: genepadgett To: tigers Sent: Thu, Mar 7, 2013 11:18 pm Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring Nick, Rande, Micheal, Ron, and Dave, Thanks guys for taking the time to respond and the info from all of you. Nick's very explicit dimensions are especially helpful, as are description and the pics Rande sent me directly, being the List does not pass pics along (yet). I have one remaining point of confusion. The dimensions that Nick gives closely match the location of dimples for the lights in a MarkII rear valence as I was able to deduct them in a pic that Rande sent. However, when I hold the light in that mounting position, it looks as though the outside edge of the lamp is almost vertically above the inboard side of my 2 inch exhaust pipe tip. That seems curiously close. Would anyone with a Mark II please confirm their Wipac lights are that close to the exhaust pipe? I realize I can give my lights a bit more clearance if I want, but if I am going to deviate from the standard, I would like at least to know the deviation is not being done out of ignorance! Thanks again everyone, Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scattt" To: genepadgett@comcast.net, tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 7:13:18 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring The lights on the Mk-II are mounted 3-5/8 inches down from the horizonital surface of the rear valance. They are 21-3/4 inches from each other. The Mk-II has a green wire origionating at the fuse block for power. I guess you could pick up power from the fuel pump wire although you could also take it from the red tail light wire. It would only work when the lights are on then. The wires to the switch feed behind the drivers seat and through the rear bulkhead on the left side of the console. There should be an existing hole plug in that location. The wire feeds forward through the Alpine exhaust hole to the switch. On the Mk-II there are tabs to secure the wires like the tabs on the fuel/brake lines. Hope this helps. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 11:27 PM Subject: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring >I am planning to install reversing lamps when the motor and trans are >re-installed in my Mark IA. My shifter is a Hurst competition plus and I >have the Hurst switch made for it that triggers the lights when reverse is >engaged. > > I seem to remember from somewhere that the factory wiring harness may have > wires already in it for such lamps. If so, where do I access the power to > the switch and route it back to the bundle to get to the lights? > > If there are not wires currently in the harness, where do people pick up > the power and how do they route it to the lamps? One possibility that > occurs to me is to tap into the line that feeds the fuel pump. > > Any information on exactly where they should be located on the rear > valence under the fender would also be appreciated. BTW, the lamps I have > are similar the rectangular Wipacs, but are made by Lucas (same ones that > were used on the DB4's I believe). > > Thanks, > > Gene > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/scattt@verizon.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/phastphill@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 8 16:28:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D110A428CB for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 16:28:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94D342879 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 16:28:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from homef2683adebd ([unknown] [173.78.146.47]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MJD009CC7TFVY43@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Fri, 08 Mar 2013 17:27:26 -0600 (CST) From: "Scattt" To: , References: <1157392223.335172.1362716319378.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 18:27:36 -0500 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I took the measurments off my Mk-II last night before I posted the e-mail. The outside edge of the Wipacs are just inboard of the tailpipes.Good luck. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 11:18 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring > Nick, Rande, Micheal, Ron, and Dave, > > Thanks guys for taking the time to respond and the info from all of you. > Nick's very explicit dimensions are especially helpful, as are description > and the pics Rande sent me directly, being the List does not pass pics > along (yet). > > I have one remaining point of confusion. The dimensions that Nick gives > closely match the location of dimples for the lights in a MarkII rear > valence as I was able to deduct them in a pic that Rande sent. However, > when I hold the light in that mounting position, it looks as though the > outside edge of the lamp is almost vertically above the inboard side of my > 2 inch exhaust pipe tip. That seems curiously close. > > Would anyone with a Mark II please confirm their Wipac lights are that > close to the exhaust pipe? I realize I can give my lights a bit more > clearance if I want, but if I am going to deviate from the standard, I > would like at least to know the deviation is not being done out of > ignorance! > > Thanks again everyone, > > Gene > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scattt" > To: genepadgett@comcast.net, tigers@autox.team.net > Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2013 7:13:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring > > The lights on the Mk-II are mounted 3-5/8 inches down from the horizonital > surface of the rear valance. They are 21-3/4 inches from each other. The > Mk-II has a green wire origionating at the fuse block for power. I guess > you > could pick up power from the fuel pump wire although you could also take > it > from the red tail light wire. It would only work when the lights are on > then. The wires to the switch feed behind the drivers seat and through the > rear bulkhead on the left side of the console. There should be an existing > hole plug in that location. The wire feeds forward through the Alpine > exhaust hole to the switch. On the Mk-II there are tabs to secure the > wires > like the tabs on the fuel/brake lines. Hope this helps. > Nick > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 11:27 PM > Subject: [Tigers] Reversing lamp wiring > > >>I am planning to install reversing lamps when the motor and trans are >>re-installed in my Mark IA. My shifter is a Hurst competition plus and I >>have the Hurst switch made for it that triggers the lights when reverse is >>engaged. >> >> I seem to remember from somewhere that the factory wiring harness may >> have >> wires already in it for such lamps. If so, where do I access the power to >> the switch and route it back to the bundle to get to the lights? >> >> If there are not wires currently in the harness, where do people pick up >> the power and how do they route it to the lamps? One possibility that >> occurs to me is to tap into the line that feeds the fuel pump. >> >> Any information on exactly where they should be located on the rear >> valence under the fender would also be appreciated. BTW, the lamps I have >> are similar the rectangular Wipacs, but are made by Lucas (same ones that >> were used on the DB4's I believe). >> >> Thanks, >> >> Gene >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/scattt@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/scattt@verizon.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 8 21:14:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6B7428D2 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 21:14:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC7A400FF for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2013 21:12:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9G9K1l0011ZMdJ4AAGC0kt; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 04:12:00 +0000 Received: from sz0058.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9GBz1l00X2yr1eL8cGBzRN; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 04:12:00 +0000 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 04:11:59 +0000 (UTC) From: genepadgett@comcast.net To: tigers@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1362802320; bh=cPv4EP6Uru9ouwxlyKPR6P0FmWFZ/hBBRupdp7FGWIo=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Fx1nhZEDnIoiGPqd83m0gWMMSESUrXo0lEQPLKYZypRjR2BESQc+Geugo/pIyr7C1 3iqexWoJ8qI22A3IjNyd4vNE4I7lx5bJlyvdUIhCwfikkZMpcyjZpTFoiwL0SdJhSN 2Zj9/eaGIRKQGhefZt+Gunut2Nh84P7yAot/LRO36VJcBiAod1XGoBoyQHj+mAORoB ForHrgr2n07uo3EqdQddSqU+/SF1aIIs/EekWp0iixAtrJAxGOdPYUB0kIYS14HFwJ 9NnNY8s+NlERmKursp+vImm4BbqCAR8Rqo1wCWA6/31E8GNTs/4O/CW1Z4Y4qHaBg3 GaMBA8NZhrGOA== Subject: [Tigers] Reversing Lamps Wiring Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, Phil, and Ron, Thanks guys for your taking the time to check your own cars and pass along the details of your own light configuration. Now I have no excuses for not doing it right! Best regards, Gene _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 9 11:57:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FB0B4053A for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 11:57:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from thecia.net (opcenter.thecia.net [208.218.131.20]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C7B40421 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2013 11:56:50 -0700 (MST) Received: from thecia.net ([208.218.131.20]) by smtp.thecia.net; Sat, 09 Mar 2013 13:56:00 -0500 From: "rande" To: tigers@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2013 13:56:00 -0500 Subject: [Tigers] Tigers-New England TAC session Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net As we get a little further along with holding a TAC inspection session for New England this Spring, we have three dates in mind, and we need to know from those folks who need inspections which date works best. We obviously will choose the date which the most inspectee's can commit to. The deadline for notifying me which date is best for you is Saturday, March 16, 2013. The choice of dates are: April 13, April 20, or May 11, 2013. The location will be either a hotel or public park near the Albany, NY airport in Latham, NY. The time window for inspections will be roughly 9am until at least 4pm. To do this, the senior inspector and one other regular inspector will have to fly into Albany for the day, and the third inspector will drive from Boston. Once we settle on the actual date, it will be very important for those folks seeking inspections to commit to attending when they say they can. There is a limited number of cars we can inspect during one day, the sooner you can let us know if you plan to attend, the sooner we can assure you that we can inspect your car on that Saturday. If you know of someone looking for an inspection in this area, and they aren't a subscriber to this list, let them know about this event, or let me know how to contact them and I'll do it for you. I already have a short list of folks whom I suspect are not subscribers or are very infrequent participants, and I'll mail them notices this weekend. If anyone has questions, email me. The next closest TAC inspection session for New England probably will be at the next TEAE United in the mid-Atlantic states this October. Rande Bellman TAC Committee _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 10:15:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CA544053B for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:15:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from defout.telus.net (outbound04.telus.net [199.185.220.223]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3049840421 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:15:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edtncm04 ([199.185.220.240]) by priv-edtnes23.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.8.01.03.00 201-2260-125-20100507) with ESMTP id <20130310161424.RVHV21910.priv-edtnes23.telusplanet.net@edtncm04> for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:14:24 -0600 Received: from [192.168.1.67] ([209.89.36.25]) by edtncm04 with bizsmtp id 9sEA1l00e0YYqBV01sECKp; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:14:24 -0600 cv=oXIB3vc/9F0oYCJY+1AyIiOTswgaejE3TXpMJE7f0ag= c=1 sm=2 a=dr4PSvVkyPYA:10 a=UIdm24C_LI4A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kORm2vRXCWvwZNlr4tcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 From: Pointers Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:14:11 -0600 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Optima Ultimate Street Car Invitational - Dale A.? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Just watched the "premiere" of this years event on SpeedTV. Dale A. was briefly profiled during the intro as having been invited, so was hoping to see some on-track coverage of the Tiger. Thought they covered just about every car, but no Tiger footage. Too bad. Competed? On the overhead pan of the field, looks like that might have been him in the back row, but not sure. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 10:58:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 477654053A for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:58:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6741B4041E for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:55:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.77]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id D15E8380000A9 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:54:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dqe003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqe003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.162.73]) by mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8660EE00008B for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:54:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Rollright@aol.com Full-name: Rollright Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:54:21 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1362934461; bh=9dlpmT9VelfUCIf1nvdKK0lhgjX1btZi/ShF4Y0nGa8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hK6RO+ffDadnlRhe71YuTJiUWzgW3veZDVAQi8CA3k4IdKail5M+b8aVRiXXwlQsR ni8D0oKqXbhSpE0ZiRwlPtH/CdCAmDSC4yrw5EeEs3IRoimopzbbQEkv3e2ZRGeOva qD2sqRZYGbT1b8o76/6BShOBN3s/CA4PepDXWDU0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294d513cbabd39ea Subject: [Tigers] penta-stars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hello, I'm pretty sure my late Mk IA (2083) originally came with Chrysler penta-stars, behind the wheel opening on the sides. They were gone when I got the car in 1976. Was there one on each side (total 2) and does anybody know a source ? Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 11:31:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1E24053B for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:31:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0203.b.hostedemail.com [64.98.42.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EA44041B for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:25:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay02.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id F36B27F95B; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 17:25:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from RedBudAdminPC (unknown [72.168.166.134]) (Authenticated sender: jimmc13@hughes.net) by omf06.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 17:24:56 +0000 (UTC) From: "Jim" To: , References: <150fc.12f99183.3e6e14bd@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:24:46 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4dsFPvNVwonO9QTvKUykabcQYE5QAA1H/Q Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jim, Are you positive there was one on each side? Rootes normally put only one on the right side. Check out an overpriced version on eBay, item number 140926902763 at $40.00 starting bid. I have a 1967 SV Alpine with only one on the lower right behind the right front wheel. Jim McLaughlin B382000175 -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:54 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] penta-stars Hello, I'm pretty sure my late Mk IA (2083) originally came with Chrysler penta-stars, behind the wheel opening on the sides. They were gone when I got the car in 1976. Was there one on each side (total 2) and does anybody know a source ? Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimmc13@hughes.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 11:34:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5410240E40 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:34:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f176.google.com (mail-qc0-f176.google.com [209.85.216.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F894041E for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:34:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f176.google.com with SMTP id n41so1197738qco.35 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:33:11 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+8aIypSRqMVcZfjENRHGriE830YnwJiEZrga6twtfs8=; b=RbIX5057NI60vRQcrYfdlaCV3OFdnLh2b5jxqV6KEGI3ZrGO4CDRcKqCjraNHIFENk 3kiFx60zKcuKN+iFtr3uCUMHQCQVOSYbYUeyrTaBemt2A+2T73WvBZNSO3k3M1uy6TrS ZkI/BjNJZWF+UbjntdpKwTWxAABootly14r3TnbBa6lAHtG/v12w7/+Keuzvp/E9xy0g TvkI6uFto7V0tj54guorU5ARYlCc73SRiSqvup9wwg8F9YxKAnlPOi4IfUy5fkckJsME 5SCFZ+en/tSE6sFm8WqSe2ovbaRC8g3fsXkv7X3MbgEIGTmIDuMFTBbg7p/98kv6wSVk Ke+Q== nl5mr15230834qeb.59.1362936790916; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:33:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.121.9 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:33:10 -0700 (PDT) References: <150fc.12f99183.3e6e14bd@aol.com> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:33:10 -0400 From: Jeffery Randall To: Jim Cc: Rollright@aol.com, tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Ditto on the one right side only Jeff On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Jim wrote: > Jim, > Are you positive there was one on each side? > Rootes normally put only one on the right side. > Check out an overpriced version on eBay, item number 140926902763 at $40.00 > starting bid. I have a 1967 SV Alpine with only one on the lower right > behind the right front wheel. > Jim McLaughlin > B382000175 > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:54 AM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] penta-stars > > Hello, > > I'm pretty sure my late Mk IA (2083) originally came with Chrysler > penta-stars, > behind the wheel opening on the sides. > > They were gone when I got the car in 1976. > > Was there one on each side (total 2) and does anybody know a source ? > > Jim Armstrong > Mk 1A > 382002083 > LRXFE > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimmc13@hughes.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jefferyrandall@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 11:36:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEF140540 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:36:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB5F04041E for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:36:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from your4dacd0ea75 (ool-182e2173.dyn.optonline.net [24.46.33.115]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with SMTP id <0MJG00846GV898B0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:35:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:35:55 -0400 From: Tony McNulty To: Jim , Rollright@aol.com, tigers@autox.team.net References: <150fc.12f99183.3e6e14bd@aol.com> Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jim: I purchased my Mk IA new in April, 1966. It came with only one pentastar on the passenger side. Tony McNulty B382001321 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim" To: ; Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars > Jim, > Are you positive there was one on each side? > Rootes normally put only one on the right side. > Check out an overpriced version on eBay, item number 140926902763 at > $40.00 > starting bid. I have a 1967 SV Alpine with only one on the lower right > behind the right front wheel. > Jim McLaughlin > B382000175 > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:54 AM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] penta-stars > > Hello, > > I'm pretty sure my late Mk IA (2083) originally came with Chrysler > penta-stars, > behind the wheel opening on the sides. > > They were gone when I got the car in 1976. > > Was there one on each side (total 2) and does anybody know a source ? > > Jim Armstrong > Mk 1A > 382002083 > LRXFE > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimmc13@hughes.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/bamcnulty@optonline.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 11:44:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB08340544 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:44:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f182.google.com (mail-ia0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DB7A4041E for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:43:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ia0-f182.google.com with SMTP id b35so1178746iac.27 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:42:37 -0700 (PDT) s=google; h=x-received:message-id:content-type:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:date:subject:from:in-reply-to :references:to:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance; bh=CEgM/yhi7nUyTwtQs1uZ1bboT/SFLAeOPvBlUQZhfcY=; b=gpTvemWkZ66a6/+2NNFbVmUnEG2f/EbnkRfu5YasyprDafIokRAA6Mih9ObCbOSXGz z/21i+2kj77fnzi97hwYY1eFc6jz5d3mc+JP8mg7ftocncqnSqE8UBfucw8NNVsYTq1V ShJeifKIsMv5/Q++G7bcmw8BiggGS8nzyFmVQ= d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:content-type:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:date:subject:from:in-reply-to :references:to:x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance :x-gm-message-state; bh=CEgM/yhi7nUyTwtQs1uZ1bboT/SFLAeOPvBlUQZhfcY=; b=A19p/90vGiihGOKMtG1fMu3fKrrv8TsyoWqsUdSrUF//UjBns6vny89jtGwhpG/IKs RubjlDHZGWx6s1W8yyEmhD6ji8LvjE9m6YI2CR1sA+hOR2cMgdHgEY5jePfDjvCpc+v4 PTTGiQdALihUtH0KZ/JKywOYk3meybDs8YCmogTdfcMrLb/BVbXnUkTbn3Py0+YulV1X bp7N+WnRp1N1JOFhY/lT2uFtWVOfS50CDiS62RLpsColRDrUO0spTAkv7r6P8ApZ5Cgz z51jNDhERHOEXwDh/Z6o7zzV4l9AMw+VjT7VpmI3MXwbj9HVuuKj889RkVrtwEEdybMp jSHg== ee9mr5071946igc.96.1362937357511; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:42:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([24.114.23.228]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id xe9sm8468329igb.7.2013.03.10.10.42.35 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:42:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 10:42:36 -0700 (PDT) From: dave@munroe.ca References: <150fc.12f99183.3e6e14bd@aol.com> To: Jim , Rollright@aol.com, tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 12:25:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60FAC40687 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:25:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0009.b.hostedemail.com [64.98.42.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9B124055D for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:24:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay06.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0284D2182D7; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:24:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from RedBudAdminPC (unknown [72.168.166.134]) (Authenticated sender: jimmc13@hughes.net) by omf13.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:23:56 +0000 (UTC) From: "Jim" To: , References: <150fc.12f99183.3e6e14bd@aol.com> <513cc60c.c99f320a.281e.4b2f@mx.google.com> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:23:47 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4dtqdlpEWMxwo7QqSI5CF1koy0ngAAnAuw Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, If you have the Rootes/Sunbeam Alpine Series I-V parts manual with index and amendment 16. Check page 24 of amendment 16, which is at the end of the entire publication. Rootes P/N 2239866 is listed 2 times once for Miscellaneous Trim (Standard) Pentastar Emblem - OS/RH Front Wing 1 Off. Translated OS = off side or right hand with a quantity of 1. Note this same part is listed for the GT Model, also on page 24. When I see this and based on owning Alpines and Tigers since 1976, the British used the body parts religiously on all Alpine type body styles, except as noted. There are no notes so we can be very sure the Pentastar was only on the RH side of any vehicle fitted with a Standard body or GT. This applies to your Tiger! What is tough to determine would be what Tiger model and SN does this start? It looks like 1966 with model B382001719, but this is not certain. My research continues.Anybody can weigh in on this, please. Jim McLaughlin B382000175 _____ From: dave@munroe.ca [mailto:dave@munroe.ca] Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:43 PM To: Jim; Rollright@aol.com; tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars Jim; Do you have any idea what number the Penta-stars were applied to the Tigers? Dave Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. From: Jim Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 2:29 PM To: Rollright@aol.com; tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars Jim, Are you positive there was one on each side? Rootes normally put only one on the right side. Check out an overpriced version on eBay, item number 140926902763 at $40.00 starting bid. I have a 1967 SV Alpine with only one on the lower right behind the right front wheel. Jim McLaughlin B382000175 -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:54 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] penta-stars Hello, I'm pretty sure my late Mk IA (2083) originally came with Chrysler penta-stars, behind the wheel opening on the sides. They were gone when I got the car in 1976. Was there one on each side (total 2) and does anybody know a source ? Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 12:33:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A822A40554 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:33:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060E04042B for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:29:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta003.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r2AIRur6007086; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:28:06 -0700 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 40188c42) id dm0213.510c296b.57a885; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:27:58 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: , Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:27:47 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4dsE8rTDnB/9KmRwSNT268Ql2fVQACrPIg engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-10_06:2013-03-08,2013-03-10,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1211240000 definitions=main-1303100163 Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jim Rootes Parts List pub 6601334 - Body Mounting Section XF 2239866 Pentastar Qty - 1 No Vin Number is listed for the start of this badge. Pub 6600992 Body Mounting Section X 2239866 Pentastar 1 USA and Canada only No Vin listed Plate B shows Pentastar at the right fender. My guess is that at some point the Chrysler dealers were instructed to apply 1 Pentastar to any Rootes product on the lot. This could place a Pentastar on a wide range of Vin numbers. I would think this was a standard Chrysler Pentastar but no idea about availability. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:54 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] penta-stars Hello, I'm pretty sure my late Mk IA (2083) originally came with Chrysler penta-stars, behind the wheel opening on the sides. They were gone when I got the car in 1976. Was there one on each side (total 2) and does anybody know a source ? Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6156 - Release Date: 03/08/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 12:33:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D6A42836 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:33:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F47C4042B for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 12:31:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta003.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r2AISDZE007388; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:31:02 -0700 Received: by dm0225.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 40188c42) id dm0225.510c2951.58799f; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 11:30:54 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Pointers'" , Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:30:44 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4dql/YYikFIRKBQf+F8oVg45vzRAAEq6Qg engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-10_06:2013-03-08,2013-03-10,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1211240000 definitions=main-1303100163 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Optima Ultimate Street Car Invitational - Dale A.? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Was it a black Tiger? I thought I saw a black Tiger move across the screen and that was all they showed. Good for Dale, hope he had a great time. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pointers Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:14 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Optima Ultimate Street Car Invitational - Dale A.? Just watched the "premiere" of this years event on SpeedTV. Dale A. was briefly profiled during the intro as having been invited, so was hoping to see some on-track coverage of the Tiger. Thought they covered just about every car, but no Tiger footage. Too bad. Competed? On the overhead pan of the field, looks like that might have been him in the back row, but not sure. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6156 - Release Date: 03/08/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 13:03:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5484E4068D for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:03:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from defout.telus.net (outbound04.telus.net [199.185.220.223]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1D3F40418 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:02:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from edtncm02 ([199.185.220.224]) by priv-edtnes26.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.8.01.03.00 201-2260-125-20100507) with ESMTP id <20130310190200.EPCO14893.priv-edtnes26.telusplanet.net@edtncm02> for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:02:00 -0600 Received: from [192.168.1.67] ([209.89.36.25]) by edtncm02 with bizsmtp id 9v1t1l02W0YYqBV01v1vPC; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:01:59 -0600 cv=9+DjoI9mEoo2+2qshXaKsV0jiWuRR8fgYRuUjLPJ6cI= c=1 sm=2 a=BmOiEbnSf9cA:10 a=UIdm24C_LI4A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=UnzTgHv9AAAA:8 a=-oh290hb4V3oYD8gbsgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=a0o1xVR2z_QA:10 References: <940F1FB710BD4356853450C3153E20C6@ronpc1> From: Pointers Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:01:54 -0600 To: "" Cc: "" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Optima Ultimate Street Car Invitational - Dale A.? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, his black Tiger, with his company logo on the side. They had a close up pan of the car and comments from Dale at the start of the show, but that was it. No footage during the action. Also curious how his car ranked, presuming he competed. (Clearly they catered to sponsor participants, but seemed nearly everyone else got some screen time). On 2013-03-10, at 12:30 PM, " Ron Fraser" wrote: > Was it a black Tiger? I thought I saw a black Tiger move across > the screen and that was all they showed. > Good for Dale, hope he had a great time. > > Ron Fraser _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 13:31:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C1E40531 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:31:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (unknown [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82BF64041A for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:26:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.142]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id A11211C00005B; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:25:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dqe003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqe003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.162.73]) by mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 435BEE000086; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:25:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Rollright@aol.com Full-name: Rollright Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:25:42 -0400 (EDT) To: bamcnulty@optonline.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1362943542; bh=x/wwWjWCN13yHUJ1Bg62kBxKZNJnNIMSupTDTmnMk/A=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JlK1Nnao03zg729taTgRC8uArc4uVFEQUfIwoqAq6xAkD+tJOITRG0hGTZqXPzm7Q aEHwIsrAr0MvyZemn7R8XOrZ7pCZ0e/rmZ5Qdbjet9phFEkJLvZq6AeJ1RIgWJSnrf cb7SFAFAV1F74TozUJB1yhVjuGkbDpxOYDSvL0Yw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e513cde365325 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net That's pretty definitive Tom Thanks Now, he mused, who sells them??? Jim A In a message dated 3/10/2013 1:35:33 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bamcnulty@optonline.net writes: Jim: I purchased my Mk IA new in April, 1966. It came with only one pentastar on the passenger side. Tony McNulty B382001321 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim" To: ; Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars > Jim, > Are you positive there was one on each side? > Rootes normally put only one on the right side. > Check out an overpriced version on eBay, item number 140926902763 at > $40.00 > starting bid. I have a 1967 SV Alpine with only one on the lower right > behind the right front wheel. > Jim McLaughlin > B382000175 > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:54 AM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] penta-stars > > Hello, > > I'm pretty sure my late Mk IA (2083) originally came with Chrysler > penta-stars, > behind the wheel opening on the sides. > > They were gone when I got the car in 1976. > > Was there one on each side (total 2) and does anybody know a source ? > > Jim Armstrong > Mk 1A > 382002083 > LRXFE > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimmc13@hughes.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/bamcnulty@optonline.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 13:43:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1231940418 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:43:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (unknown [64.12.207.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4410340420 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:33:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.142]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 048EB1C000128; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:31:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dqe003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqe003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.162.73]) by mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 888BAE000084; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:31:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Rollright@aol.com Full-name: Rollright Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:31:48 -0400 (EDT) To: rfraser@bluefrog.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1362943908; bh=SYVF3ecGbRZXKu/pa7rEqgO2xydJHCYa7GYz/nktHjs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TMU5CpDIZbqAJGB/WN3888BmPPvJ2BHep1TZJzROykCeS4b2JpDzzQV7WQDmGd+X/ dGpIYLSMCGFNF79LBCzrRjC1QvPcQSWAM3UYbaIWtak7A5C9FomxAUMpnc0GZ42m9X spyOu2/2+PNd2STf59dhAb+WCK6iMIShfNC5vaDI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e513cdfa4713c Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net As always, great investigative work ! Thanks. Jim In a message dated 3/10/2013 2:28:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rfraser@bluefrog.com writes: Jim Rootes Parts List pub 6601334 - Body Mounting Section XF 2239866 Pentastar Qty - 1 No Vin Number is listed for the start of this badge. Pub 6600992 Body Mounting Section X 2239866 Pentastar 1 USA and Canada only No Vin listed Plate B shows Pentastar at the right fender. My guess is that at some point the Chrysler dealers were instructed to apply 1 Pentastar to any Rootes product on the lot. This could place a Pentastar on a wide range of Vin numbers. I would think this was a standard Chrysler Pentastar but no idea about availability. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:54 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] penta-stars Hello, I'm pretty sure my late Mk IA (2083) originally came with Chrysler penta-stars, behind the wheel opening on the sides. They were gone when I got the car in 1976. Was there one on each side (total 2) and does anybody know a source ? Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6156 - Release Date: 03/08/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 14:01:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4969940527 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:01:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E422D40415 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:00:18 -0600 (MDT) a=58AQjy34UZ/GSAVUaz6wpA==:17 a=253cKie21zsA:10 a=_WFI8pCH4AAA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=XcG936E0HKgA:10 a=Bkcq6oxzOuBCUGKWw7IA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=FOBlfoorC_ZxK2suAC4A:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=58AQjy34UZ/GSAVUaz6wpA==:117 Received: from [72.224.119.118] ([72.224.119.118:60171] helo=[192.168.1.126]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id B1/B8-04559-E16EC315; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 19:59:26 +0000 Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:59:25 -0400 From: Tod Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130215 Thunderbird/17.0.3 To: tigers@autox.team.net, Rollright@aol.com Subject: [Tigers] Re Pentastar Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The one on my Tiger in October 1966 when new was on the right side.Only Chrysler part on the car. About $10 on eBay. Tod B382002384LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 14:32:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D051242919 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:32:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm29-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm29-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF6A40E40 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 14:29:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.49] by nm29.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2013 20:28:40 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.169] by tm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2013 20:28:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2013 20:28:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 56550 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Mar 2013 20:28:40 -0000 s=s1024; t=1362947320; bh=OOgCpp66W9IfhcO5crdWoZ2WiRNmrw7k1tUgSds6d1c=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4A39gl13CGzphCdvs1tdHpzwE43ednI+pXRoVOFnyUAYqG9k087dzGr0O9ITmtTstEi9m3gDZvWTsqF0pGEz5g2P2wEdx756CdEb+9q/HSsoMHCJCoCcHlc806XteWsjlLfcPw426MiyRbXdozMw4nDd3y1OuAoAn87Rk04Ursw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ASC+Lh0LPjGGLHTWlxrZYjqaSy8fclT+B0qjCCTog9ZffPmzMX0zMeAFD3OWPwvjW7XO6W+yO+OmVDwpBNL+O1ua8tY6NVeptTbRCZyLeP4FXKvm7umYioYIvQcqC4pEpmegKbqvDiJudfYTEoWdHE2HxAPNN4jqiY7cpGwy760=; P_yo6TIRn3287g9V2zR8iYCQ2S1mlXIpc_JPNWIS3Z2W9CVnxB3ZTTvQ.ZqL Krvq7xFHITglIOgTPwBVX53qzrOZYph4z8bc7x4QvEdjzRhutssNWlgxdCrN vS7hNB9imR4hM.aMreC.BhhBIh9EOIiYYsRrCcC878fCA2gO_oyxQZwEQJm1 Ykz3w7lPd.t9lWuzUSBWXdKAVqGUfOAN8gCey0HQ0RhtOy.LEh_2Zb417A6G n531nquMu8HZGpY07GgAYaifQgiF4mT5fFIDEibDTwFVKLlJQ_EXfDYjzhPs J4H4LiuQu9y6opGKbzoy5AzQ1NBzfKHJsR4HX.71xP6vbnDDMHU_I991UL8w 7jQSpRYWeOYHjDD_ypGV7D0QQUb.TiuZ1L1I8r.WbaR4.fIIyxhCxA35iqYH OlSkkKTY9ZegPDqFFW8TaO9obNT5oSTTbQxbStzTJ.0I5F2bUQuRY4DoGVI_ QVNXVq3VwdvmjeZZGHX4xsd7wjDQz3o2GQs7lQSg0FSh1.mOfphk6XGYZMBB c_Ewl_Npmzs8vL5_rTalrG1a51vg6BJgu6RAe8JiHqnCe.JH26eY6WpUmxuY - Received: from [24.182.196.88] by web121905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:28:40 PDT VGhlIHNob3cgaXMgb24gYWdhaW4gYXMgZm9sbG93czoKCgkqIE1vbmRheSwgTWFyY2ggMTEgYXQgMjowMCBwLm0uIEVTVAoJKiBTdW5kYXksIE1hcmNoIDI0IGF0IDExOjAwIGEubS4gRVNUCgkqIEZyaWRheSwgTWFyY2ggMjkgYXQgMTowMCBwLm0uIEVTVApTdGVwaGVuwqAKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogUm9uIEZyYXNlciA8cmZyYXNlckBibHVlZnJvZy5jb20.ClRvOiAnUG9pbnRlcnMnIDxncG9pbnRlckB0ZWx1c3BsYW5ldC5uZXQ.OyB0aWdlcnNAYXV0b3gudGUBMAEBAQE- References: <6C207FAE-082B-4264-8ED6-8A5ECA32D5C9@telusplanet.net> <940F1FB710BD4356853450C3153E20C6@ronpc1> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 13:28:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Waybright To: "rfraser@bluefrog.com" , 'Pointers' , "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Optima Ultimate Street Car Invitational - Dale A.? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The show is on again as follows: * Monday, March 11 at 2:00 p.m. EST * Sunday, March 24 at 11:00 a.m. EST * Friday, March 29 at 1:00 p.m. EST Stephen ________________________________ From: Ron Fraser To: 'Pointers' ; tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Optima Ultimate Street Car Invitational - Dale A.? Was it a black Tiger? I thought I saw a black Tiger move across the screen and that was all they showed. Good for Dale, hope he had a great time. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Pointers Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 12:14 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Optima Ultimate Street Car Invitational - Dale A.? Just watched the "premiere" of this years event on SpeedTV. Dale A. was briefly profiled during the intro as having been invited, so was hoping to see some on-track coverage of the Tiger. Thought they covered just about every car, but no Tiger footage. Too bad. Competed? On the overhead pan of the field, looks like that might have been him in the back row, but not sure. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6156 - Release Date: 03/08/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/gswaybright@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 16:11:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE0242855 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 16:11:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E774284C for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 16:10:54 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=ix.netcom.com; b=J4CCfbRMkjKiIh5+43CLIsw5mtoo0VcjF3tuRr79bwIL08q6fHrTYQVQOaScJ52X; h=Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [108.248.144.237] (helo=[192.168.1.72]) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1UEoRO-0005cR-FR; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:10:02 -0400 From: Allan Ballard Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:09:43 -0400 References: <513CE61D.7010503@roadrunner.com> To: Tod Brown Cc: Rollright@aol.com, tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Re Pentastar Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net See SAOCA reference: http://sunbeamalpine.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=3715&d=1330197021 dated 1 Feb. 1966 Have fun, Allan Ballard Mk1a Series 1 Alpine Series IV Alpine On Mar 10, 2013, at 3:59 PM, Tod Brown wrote: > The one on my Tiger in October 1966 when new was on the right side.Only > Chrysler part on the car. About $10 on eBay. > > Tod > B382002384LRXFE > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/aballard@ix.netcom.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 16:23:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF3B4285D for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 16:23:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from thecia.net (opcenter.thecia.net [208.218.131.20]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF074284C for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 16:22:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from thecia.net ([208.218.131.20]) by smtp.thecia.net; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:22:05 -0400 From: "rande" To: tigers@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:22:05 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Pentastar for all Rootes cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I do have a copy of the 'Design Instruction' requesting the installation of the 'Pentastar' (text only) at all Rootes passenger car assembly plants, dated 1 Feb 1966. It applied to cars from Linwood, Ryton, and Jensen. I'll make it available, beginning tonight, when I arrive home, if no one does that earlier. Rande _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 16:57:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE84D42855 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 16:57:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm28.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm28.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.93]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F8E4284C for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 16:57:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.197] by nm28.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2013 22:56:48 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.113] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2013 22:56:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1018.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Mar 2013 22:56:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 86000 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Mar 2013 22:56:47 -0000 s=s1024; t=1362956207; bh=pX0LOTPjxzce2d49VZK8usxgL7isvcJAw7DHnuAZuMk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Z3xnU66NHYJZKheI+70Dy9Q4MQ8Wx879RpW19h1t855H0h28O72rSKMWtDmc/+s2rCKbdLZthtprLxPXlbmRZb0tD39tNLrtDQvD6+6o759N6EeSeJUkiljmXfceKzu6lg1I6CJwtmwrQp9qL+QRS9HnmLy4XrVbxhzljkN6dzE= s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=D0ixrzBwLxjInqH/HkH7zSkBrdAczZPHwqa5PCeHtR4JN/k+MEYaRtO96e5GmM8UFVh0gdjCqEIgNeZRZRe86wa412TQ8iuCo9G+UeqCdWbkOyOYfS5sysFKVOL9aCL8HWsZeMGdr5XJmnkBWPCPt/luCNZnFLCCeDJyJ81F2uQ=; Lz1.repM9PTZcgqvpbZdSm1NrYB_gwrlGvISKzMwOUHPMvcdsW52QyJhsBoZ H0bAdO6hEkVz6000fliERc9W0zsDctfdMLXQe8gMduw8StUFdKJzZdkHejqr dbDW.V3J2psfjFZnC15ECn.GbNb2azwa0xdZ8kcGDMxAok5ir7HdbHk7VmjG n4Q4G6ttoNbp5ZHHu1R111qSyKejDInpiZYN5Or9gyJQf2asDfHjSpcKTsPK JCemUiBTKFRTF7UHLB0VKsKFAAFJa3n.Bka3Xl9aEH92crhHSooTJf16UOsW lL2sCpviDXkIijjVSn4P72XcxL0lf3AVDIC_0vilFQoBBjaJdjv0Hrzhe7ub Y7mH0Ezo52soYK5j41gRlPruJ7CwwQ996R5SmF9VCDp3ryCOeQH0NSjBAIBa k0nBB7a.Vz36COUcJNW9_mhGj3B4i5j2ZU96wGU0VNwE3_LGk1jVdXnBzcEy B8XGscDpBRABzcs6Bp4yzFTACFXJ7TJL71VjMBzyJKH14amiWc5MboqI7dwX vyKPTpC3esQEIfYpdya4- Received: from [184.21.37.243] by web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:56:47 PDT SSBib3VnaHQgbXkgdXNlZCBUaWdlciBpbiAxOTg2LiDCoMKgIFRoZXJlIHdhcyBhIFBlbnRhc3RhciBpbiB0aGUgY3ViYnkgaG9sZS4gSSBrbmV3IGl0IHdhcyBub3QgdG8gYmUgaW5zdGFsbGVkLsKgIEkgc3RpbGwgaGF2ZSBpdCBhcyBhIGN1cmlvLsKgwqDCoMKgIGdhcnnCoMKgwqDCoCBiOTQ3MjI4My7CoMKgwqDCoMKgIA0KDQotLS0gT24gU3VuLCAzLzEwLzEzLCByYW5kZSA8cmFuZGVAdGhlY2lhLm5ldD4gd3JvdGU6DQoNCkZyb206IHJhbmRlIDxyYW5kZUB0aGVjaWEubmV0Pg0KU3ViamVjdDogW1RpZ2UBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 15:56:47 -0700 (PDT) From: arado7@sbcglobal.net To: rande@thecia.net Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Pentastar for all Rootes cars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I bought my used Tiger in 1986. There was a Pentastar in the cubby hole. I knew it was not to be installed. I still have it as a curio. gary b9472283. --- On Sun, 3/10/13, rande wrote: From: rande Subject: [Tigers] Pentastar for all Rootes cars To: tigers@autox.team.net Date: Sunday, March 10, 2013, 10:22 PM I do have a copy of the 'Design Instruction' requesting the installation of the 'Pentastar' (text only) at all Rootes passenger car assembly plants, dated 1 Feb 1966. It applied to cars from Linwood, Ryton, and Jensen. I'll make it available, beginning tonight, when I arrive home, if no one does that earlier. Rande _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/arado7@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 19:02:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF6AD42929 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 19:02:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F2034285D for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 19:01:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from optiplex3301 ([unknown] [173.58.135.61]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MJH00GWD1H0BF20@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 20:00:36 -0500 (CDT) From: "Thomas Witt" To: References: <6C207FAE-082B-4264-8ED6-8A5ECA32D5C9@telusplanet.net> <940F1FB710BD4356853450C3153E20C6@ronpc1> <1362947320.45651.YahooMailNeo@web121905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:00:58 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Optima Ultimate Street Car Invitational - Dale A.? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net TV shows that run an hour typically have less than 50 minutes of actual airtime when accounting for show I.D.'s and commercials. With 50 cars that would allot less than 60 seconds per car. And, intro's, side chat, explanations of events, etc. eat into everyone's theoretical "less than a minute." That said, Dale was on for what I estimate was no more than 6 seconds. That definitely was not a fair distribution any way it gets sliced. It truly was one of those, "if you blinked..., you would have missed it" occasions. The Tiger and any other rare cars would have been more interesting than the "dime a dozen" Camaro's and Mustang's they seemed to feature at greater length. Tom _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 19:54:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4944291D for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 19:54:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f171.google.com (mail-lb0-f171.google.com [209.85.217.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD14428BE for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 19:53:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f171.google.com with SMTP id gg13so2696891lbb.2 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:52:51 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=mDKUUGF/T1H7Nc0SHdsup+BUHrTwos2q4I4qTwNia1A=; b=1AnxlvIqxCM99JySCPEIe/rBeOt8FVILMZU9w6QoaWC/+q5bp9MdZWFjU7c/taTBsx wxU7RqWfZfbhXPRwMp+f/LxeAxQtih258ETW+7xHMnzTdMyqWyrL2/QPc4FCGqOc5u+L TcJe7SlwVwuad2vPz4Y0MT0/NXeRJFY22/JWQ40AOYLFdVTOq5ksvD2AbSDngD7GWZ0Y JLhYygljJGKzoq54YOP5Xr51VYC4nOiBDDXxdfziw1LCFBhCC1aa9Enj3CM6hjhoxA7H hP5wWXjSTMfCPUXv8p32YfLhY+pKarMHuo07O+20DplSFs2VEBD/REEk60EctSAqhEwj SOFw== f6mr3923089lbd.3.1362966771773; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.86.42 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.86.42 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 18:52:51 -0700 (PDT) References: <6C207FAE-082B-4264-8ED6-8A5ECA32D5C9@telusplanet.net> <940F1FB710BD4356853450C3153E20C6@ronpc1> <1362947320.45651.YahooMailNeo@web121905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <402E718B0A3E45948837D8A9E6ED339A@optiplex3301> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:52:51 -0400 From: "michael@michaelshortt.com" To: Thomas Witt Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Optima Ultimate Street Car Invitational - Dale A.? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net A one hour network TV show is on avg 42 min long. Subtract preproduced opening and credits, more like 41. Michael On Mar 10, 2013 9:01 PM, "Thomas Witt" wrote: > TV shows that run an hour typically have less than 50 minutes of actual > airtime when accounting for show I.D.'s and commercials. With 50 cars that > would allot less than 60 seconds per car. And, intro's, side chat, > explanations of events, etc. eat into everyone's theoretical "less than a > minute." > > That said, Dale was on for what I estimate was no more than 6 seconds. > That definitely was not a fair distribution any way it gets sliced. It > truly was one of those, "if you blinked..., you would have missed it" > occasions. The Tiger and any other rare cars would have been more > interesting than the "dime a dozen" Camaro's and Mustang's they seemed to > feature at greater length. > > Tom ______________________________**_________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/tigers/michael@** > michaelshortt.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 21:59:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378964293D for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:59:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from thecia.net (unknown [208.218.131.20]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25324285D for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:54:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from thecia.net ([208.218.131.20]) by smtp.thecia.net; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 23:52:50 -0400 From: "rande" To: tigers@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 23:52:50 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Pentastar 'Design Instructions" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net DESIGN INSTRUCTION No. GB 2964 MODELS SUPER MINX IV ESTATE, MINX VI, ALPINE V, TIGER, IMP DE LUXE PENTASTAR BADGE FOR ALL N.A.S. MODELS At the request of Management, it has been decided that all N.A.S vehicles will have a Pentastar badge fitted to the Lower Front Wing on the right hand side only. These are to be fitted as from the 1st February. Therefore Planning Departments at Ryton, Linwood and Jensens are requested to arrange for suitable drill jigs to be made to drill holes to fit the badges in the positions shown on the accompanying sketches. Provision is also to be made for a suitable sealing compound to be used under the badge and around the fixing studs. This is to be done to prevent water seeping through the holes and causing rust stains. Supply Department are requested to have sufficient quantities of the Nylon fixing bushes 9132945 (Carr Fasteners number 78/269), Pentastar Badges, and Sealing Compound Expandite SR 51 Part. No. 2517444 (or in the event of this not being readily available, the sealing compound used currently for glazing operations may be employed.) at Linwood, Ryton, and Jensens, and the 4000 badges which are situated at Ryton at the present moment, should be divided accordingly, in order that they may comply with this request. Inspection Departments at Linwood, Ryton and Jensens are requested to ensure that all Badges are fitted in line with sketches supplied. These 4000 badges are to be fitted as a temporary measure until such time as the Production badge, and instruction drawings are issued. DATE OF ISSUE 1 Feb 1966 "Jim, you may already have the Design Instruction copy, above is just a cleaned up and simplified version. "Ryton" is the Alpine assembly plant "Linwood" is the Sunbeam Imp assembly plant This page called for a separate instruction drawings page, which I don't have. Originally, there were accompanying sketches on a separate page, but all I've seen is this one page with text only. I've gotten this page from both Norm Miller and the US Sunbeam Alpine club, and the qualities of each are identical, which to me means they both came from the same source. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 10 22:41:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 823E342930 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:41:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4AA4285D for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:38:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.131]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B46A938000091; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 00:37:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [21.2.55.42] (66-87-67-42.pools.spcsdns.net [66.87.67.42]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 5F251E00008A; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 00:37:39 -0400 (EDT) References: <513d5512.1753.0@thecia.net> From: Lee Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2013 21:37:35 -0700 To: "rande@thecia.net" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1362976660; bh=CrPMCvktpnJVH3s00Kekog1TVNS7Z/MsjOa5utrEmus=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=M0DQt1xood1FyFfhJezni/0gxGYMvzkSaiaaiZkcKniYiKAZJA/uzOK+zrWrZP5uN cFsje8Le/BjAQ7aI1NjNHcQcZ73N5sIgn3YFpqXqsBtho8jaNZAUoJmaZ7y/bndhf8 nJ2CPELc4HxilDe5wfQQQx6JBo7zw7NqFnLsJkrs= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d3383513d5f93248d Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Pentastar 'Design Instructions" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Nice, but what color are they? Chrome, semi chrome, partial chrome Sent from my iPhone On Mar 10, 2013, at 8:52 PM, "rande" wrote: > DESIGN INSTRUCTION No. GB 2964 > > MODELS SUPER MINX IV ESTATE, MINX VI, ALPINE V, > TIGER, IMP DE LUXE > > > PENTASTAR BADGE FOR ALL N.A.S. MODELS > > > > At the request of Management, it has been decided > that all N.A.S vehicles will have a Pentastar badge > fitted to the Lower Front Wing on the right hand side only. > These are to be fitted as from the 1st February. > > Therefore Planning Departments at Ryton, Linwood > and Jensens are requested to arrange for suitable drill > jigs to be made to drill holes to fit the badges in the > positions shown on the accompanying sketches. Provision > is also to be made for a suitable sealing compound to be > used under the badge and around the fixing studs. This is > to be done to prevent water seeping through the holes and > causing rust stains. > > Supply Department are requested to have sufficient > quantities of the Nylon fixing bushes 9132945 (Carr Fasteners > number 78/269), Pentastar Badges, and Sealing Compound > Expandite SR 51 Part. No. 2517444 (or in the event of this > not being readily available, the sealing compound used > currently for glazing operations may be employed.) at > Linwood, Ryton, and Jensens, and the 4000 badges which are > situated at Ryton at the present moment, should be divided > accordingly, in order that they may comply with this request. > > Inspection Departments at Linwood, Ryton and Jensens > are requested to ensure that all Badges are fitted in line > with sketches supplied. > > These 4000 badges are to be fitted as a temporary > measure until such time as the Production badge, and > instruction drawings are issued. > > > > DATE OF ISSUE 1 Feb 1966 > > > > "Jim, you may already have the Design Instruction copy, above is just a > cleaned > up and simplified version. > > > "Ryton" is the Alpine assembly plant > > "Linwood" is the Sunbeam Imp assembly plant > > This page called for a separate instruction drawings page, which I don't > have. > Originally, there were accompanying sketches on a separate page, but all I've > seen is this one page with > > text only. I've gotten this page from both Norm Miller and the US Sunbeam > Alpine > club, and the qualities of each are identical, which to me means they both > came > from the same source. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/aaaglasss@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 11 06:28:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B63A42978 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 06:28:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from thecia.net (opcenter.thecia.net [208.218.131.20]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7777542969 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 06:28:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from thecia.net ([208.218.131.20]) by smtp.thecia.net; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 08:27:01 -0400 From: "rande" To: aaaglasss@aol.com Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 08:27:01 -0400 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Tigers - which Pentastar? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Lee asked which finish is the correct 'pentastar' for the Tiger and Alpine. My old recolllection is that it's a faded gold with the black lines at the bottom of each star arm. Again, this is solely my recollection, and it may be confused with the pentastars on the American-built Chrysler cars, but the one which looks closest on eBay is an NOS part listed by seller "retiredfirechief" under the search 'Chrysler Pentastar'. If I have any immediate doubts about this one, it's that the seller describes it as measuring one inch across, and from memory that seems a little two large. It would be swell if someone with what they feel is an original pentastar could at least measure theres to confirm the width, and extra points would be given for whether it has similar attaching studs to the eBay part and whether it has a black vinyl/rubber gasket behnd it. I know I'm going to get a little pushback from two factions: the "I've seen a lot of useless trivia on this site, but this..."crowd and the "I just got home from hospital for back surgery, and you want me to bend down and look at that badge...I'll never get up" crowd. Rande _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 11 09:30:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F854249F for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 09:30:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com [208.47.184.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9EC640412 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 09:30:10 -0600 (MDT) c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1363015754; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=1EI/joRILsb0vvQ14+xZAsdPhfk=; b=OMF9It3VQwQfxm9gGvuiTcSyAOa6l4Eq1AUArIquvGHp+Y4xmISV/9P0OPawpa0W zEktq+sigGTQjT0B8ScgbEcnKo9nj29YcNAvz71J/slmm9LtSTpNdTAaOEg/EsWj; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=VHR75LDRdwNiv49K1R9BLQ==:17 a=7SpWe-AiposA:10 a=1poGYrevpj8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=PN7WDCtrJA8A:10 a=8A7brI4kjU8C6ETGAX3PRdgeao0=:19 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=bN3I_mudwo6yzF6oezEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=7AuI0tugcmoA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=FYIqUD9b4yooNd8y:21 a=0JawHvbN6yX8WjI5:21 a=VHR75LDRdwNiv49K1R9BLQ==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=wseay@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [71.48.131.223] ([71.48.131.223:12900] helo=xpseay) by mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPA id 7C/68-17859-948FD315; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 11:29:14 -0400 From: "Will Seay" To: , References: <513dcd95.228a.0@thecia.net> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 11:29:12 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4eU8vDZPeoz2XgTT2LOazOwWCOHwAFw2yA Content-Language: en-us Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers - which Pentastar? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I just took a look at the pentastar on my car. From center of the base to tip of the star measures 0.98", so the 1" measurement, depending on how it was made, is probably about right. The original pentastar was gold-anodized aluminum over plastic. The pentastar on my car is NOS, so I know it's right. You can find two flavors of pentastars on ebay The repros that sell for about $10.00 are all plastic. The NOS ones are the ones selling for outrageous bucks. The pentastar mounts with a center pin and has a locating tab that's offset from center. It will take two holes to mount it and accommodate the locating tab. I don't know anything about a vinyl/rubber gasket. If someone wants a picture of the pentastar installed on my car let me know and I can send you one by separate email. Will Seay 382001570 wseay@embarqmail.com -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rande Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 8:27 AM To: aaaglasss@aol.com Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Tigers - which Pentastar? Lee asked which finish is the correct 'pentastar' for the Tiger and Alpine. My old recolllection is that it's a faded gold with the black lines at the bottom of each star arm. Again, this is solely my recollection, and it may be confused with the pentastars on the American-built Chrysler cars, but the one which looks closest on eBay is an NOS part listed by seller "retiredfirechief" under the search 'Chrysler Pentastar'. If I have any immediate doubts about this one, it's that the seller describes it as measuring one inch across, and from memory that seems a little two large. It would be swell if someone with what they feel is an original pentastar could at least measure theres to confirm the width, and extra points would be given for whether it has similar attaching studs to the eBay part and whether it has a black vinyl/rubber gasket behnd it. I know I'm going to get a little pushback from two factions: the "I've seen a lot of useless trivia on this site, but this..."crowd and the "I just got home from hospital for back surgery, and you want me to bend down and look at that badge...I'll never get up" crowd. Rande _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 11 10:18:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E23B40E34 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 10:18:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f172.google.com (mail-ia0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C86F40527; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 10:18:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ia0-f172.google.com with SMTP id l29so3773457iag.17 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 09:17:08 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=x-received:x-rim-org-msg-ref-id:message-id :content-transfer-encoding:reply-to:x-priority:references :in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:cc:from:date :content-type:mime-version; bh=7NddtCbu1lhTLDOtXzxkUiGrN9mI5grf09jLlPpRm8k=; b=cnN0bROWenSYYLAh0OnACl5A+BvJ48sIafzAB+gOSr5HkHZlDYnCgTY2j9K/MI+t85 6XB4jPjV/yrcMQzuaAT0pXGR/0b7JaiQVAZeTUjNgcRfWIH4zXHqXHsNZPBbTdynMjbF Wt3CVWbSU5dw+R4Z/FLxebBqh13ueViLcMnGj8fe2bQk3t1UIXVjkGO13R939lDl2CS6 Xv0O8WEW4cvc/N8Bqh69brxBQGi1OzzdBm50/g/JVIYIc53hCUYG+249rUCB9oTQeset V07bO/FuX5hdjW8yfsMFQam1AmUkZwfGrpjScg1gl2FG7jgZbdSp4VMZaoIDXWNCBCvc ahYg== l7mr7977455igo.11.1363018628797; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 09:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.188 (bda-74-82-80-128.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hi4sm14948093igc.6.2013.03.11.09.17.06 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Mar 2013 09:17:07 -0700 (PDT) References: <513dcd95.228a.0@thecia.net> <000c01ce1e6d$2f936360$8eba2a20$@com> Sensitivity: Normal To: "Will Seay" , tigers-bounces@autox.team.net, rande@thecia.net, aaaglasss@aol.com From: jay.laifman@gmail.com Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:17:01 +0000 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers - which Pentastar? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Did Alpines and Tigers have different pentastars? I had a very very late Series V - the ones with all the Mark II stuff (non-peaked headlight rims, bumper mounted license plate lights, etc.). It had a black/grey plastic Pentastar. The car was original paint and everything when we got it. It was about 5 years old at the time. I can't confirm it was not changed. But think it unlikely. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Will Seay" To: ; Cc: Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers - which Pentastar? I just took a look at the pentastar on my car. From center of the base to tip of the star measures 0.98", so the 1" measurement, depending on how it was made, is probably about right. The original pentastar was gold-anodized aluminum over plastic. The pentastar on my car is NOS, so I know it's right. You can find two flavors of pentastars on ebay The repros that sell for about $10.00 are all plastic. The NOS ones are the ones selling for outrageous bucks. The pentastar mounts with a center pin and has a locating tab that's offset from center. It will take two holes to mount it and accommodate the locating tab. I don't know anything about a vinyl/rubber gasket. If someone wants a picture of the pentastar installed on my car let me know and I can send you one by separate email. Will Seay 382001570 wseay@embarqmail.com -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of rande Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 8:27 AM To: aaaglasss@aol.com Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Tigers - which Pentastar? Lee asked which finish is the correct 'pentastar' for the Tiger and Alpine. My old recolllection is that it's a faded gold with the black lines at the bottom of each star arm. Again, this is solely my recollection, and it may be confused with the pentastars on the American-built Chrysler cars, but the one which looks closest on eBay is an NOS part listed by seller "retiredfirechief" under the search 'Chrysler Pentastar'. If I have any immediate doubts about this one, it's that the seller describes it as measuring one inch across, and from memory that seems a little two large. It would be swell if someone with what they feel is an original pentastar could at least measure theres to confirm the width, and extra points would be given for whether it has similar attaching studs to the eBay part and whether it has a black vinyl/rubber gasket behnd it. I know I'm going to get a little pushback from two factions: the "I've seen a lot of useless trivia on this site, but this..."crowd and the "I just got home from hospital for back surgery, and you want me to bend down and look at that badge...I'll never get up" crowd. Rande _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 11 11:00:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5F640E34 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 11:00:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19744041E for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 11:00:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from homef2683adebd ([unknown] [173.78.146.47]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MJI003X49U5G8X0@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 11:59:00 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scattt" To: "Tony McNulty" , "Jim" , , References: <150fc.12f99183.3e6e14bd@aol.com> <71046BFE82644D9CAF3AACDD48A938E1@your4dacd0ea75> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:59:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net If I remember correctly even the Chrysler products only had penta-stars on the right side! Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony McNulty" To: "Jim" ; ; Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars > Jim: > > I purchased my Mk IA new in April, 1966. It came with only one pentastar > on the passenger side. > > Tony McNulty > B382001321 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim" > To: ; > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 1:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars > > >> Jim, >> Are you positive there was one on each side? >> Rootes normally put only one on the right side. >> Check out an overpriced version on eBay, item number 140926902763 at >> $40.00 >> starting bid. I have a 1967 SV Alpine with only one on the lower right >> behind the right front wheel. >> Jim McLaughlin >> B382000175 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net >> [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] >> On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com >> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:54 AM >> To: tigers@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Tigers] penta-stars >> >> Hello, >> >> I'm pretty sure my late Mk IA (2083) originally came with Chrysler >> penta-stars, >> behind the wheel opening on the sides. >> >> They were gone when I got the car in 1976. >> >> Was there one on each side (total 2) and does anybody know a source ? >> >> Jim Armstrong >> Mk 1A >> 382002083 >> LRXFE >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimmc13@hughes.net >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/bamcnulty@optonline.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/scattt@verizon.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 11 11:15:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98ED94054A for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 11:15:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc3-s17.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s17.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0657B40413; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 11:14:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY148-DS15 ([65.54.190.189]) by bay0-omc3-s17.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 11 Mar 2013 10:13:56 -0700 From: David or Gary To: jay.laifman@gmail.com Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 17:13:55 GMT FILETIME=[D05D9E10:01CE1E7B] Cc: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net, tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers - which Pentastar? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net There are about 4 different Chrysler fender Pentastars, I believe only one is correct for the Tiger. The two Pentastars which would possibly be correct for a 1967 and earlier Rootes car are the one piece all metal (aluminum) version and plastic two piece version with a aluminum insert. I don't know which version was used on the Tiger, but the plastic one is a later Chrysler replacement. When I ordered some of these from Rootes/Chrysler in the late 70's they were in Rootes bags with the correct Rootes part number, but were the later plastic version. I was never able to get any early metal (aluminum) versions from Rootes/Chrysler or directly from Chrysler. I believe Chrysler went to the plastic version in the 1970's. Below are pictures of the two types. I have seen the metal version with and without the rubber cushion on the back. I don't know if the Tiger had the cushion. The early metal (aluminum) Pentastar is gold colored with the star and outside edges painted black (the black paint will wear off over time leaving an all gold emblem, or even silver if worn enough). The later Pentastar has a black plastic body with a gold colored metal insert (which can fall out), Note later versions of this plastic version have a more gold/bronze color insert. The early metal Pentastar is held on with a nut, the plastic one has a plastic friction fastener. Since Chrysler switched from an all metal version to plastic in the 70's or late 60's I believe the Tiger should have the early all metal Pentastar. If members want to closely examine there original cars, and see which they have, we might be able to confirm what was original. David Franchi - An Original Chrysler (note from Rootes/Chrysler) with package, front http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL439/2051017/8721018/135106857.jpg - Original Chrysler with package rear http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL439/2051017/8721018/135106852.jpg - Metal left-Plastic right later bronze color http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL439/2051017/8721018/161990305.jpg - Rear Metal left-Plastic right http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL439/2051017/8721018/161990312.jpg - Side Metal left-Plastic right http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL439/2051017/8721018/161990316.jpg - Rear Metal left-Plastic right http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL439/2051017/8721018/161990322.jpg - Rubber cushion on Metal version http://pic50.picturetrail.com/VOL439/2051017/8721018/405936341.jpg _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 11 12:52:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB560424DE for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:52:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C84240549 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 12:51:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 12ABD380000C0; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:50:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dqe002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqe002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.162.69]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 706D4E000086; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:50:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Rollright@aol.com Full-name: Rollright Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 14:50:52 -0400 (EDT) To: scattt@verizon.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363027853; bh=KMCa6ic+FtaJd/ZPl38u5rzXLEA4MA24kxRvhxlXahQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZKiaz9yYFO+wHubAkysdIhp4ZgOQQKYe5uvsEnc8OnnDll18pTabvWKN1rXaS3J27 QAq+3UGzoWYvNklisIMkflt3LTGUdnzhgkJ8TqvvavMnP+31Mw5GrahjdwENA7PPNp cIJ9sKJsV2Gtg/CDYPUlT6iY2f2soeTLx/rTLTQg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca513e278c2060 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net If you know boats or airplanes that's the 'star'bord side! Nuk, nuk So in a weird way, it makes sense. Jim A In a message dated 3/11/2013 12:59:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, scattt@verizon.net writes: If I remember correctly even the Chrysler products only had penta-stars on the right side! Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony McNulty" To: "Jim" ; ; Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars > Jim: > > I purchased my Mk IA new in April, 1966. It came with only one pentastar > on the passenger side. > > Tony McNulty > B382001321 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim" > To: ; > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 1:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars > > >> Jim, >> Are you positive there was one on each side? >> Rootes normally put only one on the right side. >> Check out an overpriced version on eBay, item number 140926902763 at >> $40.00 >> starting bid. I have a 1967 SV Alpine with only one on the lower right >> behind the right front wheel. >> Jim McLaughlin >> B382000175 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net >> [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] >> On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com >> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:54 AM >> To: tigers@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Tigers] penta-stars >> >> Hello, >> >> I'm pretty sure my late Mk IA (2083) originally came with Chrysler >> penta-stars, >> behind the wheel opening on the sides. >> >> They were gone when I got the car in 1976. >> >> Was there one on each side (total 2) and does anybody know a source ? >> >> Jim Armstrong >> Mk 1A >> 382002083 >> LRXFE >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimmc13@hughes.net >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/bamcnulty@optonline.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/scattt@verizon.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 11 17:51:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C232B40554 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 17:51:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (imr-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF98440410 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 17:48:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.137]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 16A161C00011A; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:47:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dmb001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dmb001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.212.65]) by mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C4998E00008E; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:47:50 -0400 (EDT) References: <8098.5b356d3f.3e6f818b@aol.com> To: Rollright@aol.com, scattt@verizon.net Received: from 173.170.43.37 by webmail-d296.sysops.aol.com (205.188.93.239) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:47:50 -0400 From: Steve Halbrook Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 19:47:50 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363045671; bh=wuuTryk5Qfmnz1uftmNqDiyWSy0ov79Z69GKDGehmRE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UgPCxX8AgG9g/Ts5mFhvjXxIQ9dE+qR8nA7a5qZnmj6kVXm6zifWViDAIopFnFSh+ bFtkte28gsCWSUCLHq1z9bHJvKd5zZY3Wf7Zj5NztWoqPOuZ7+RrqobNDDT6fXBzAX B5g2OS0ii/0eOLOI8YLbHRYpoFO3XPZUpLZFc0ao= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d3389513e6d26715d Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Chrysler did only put them on the right side and I believe that it had to do with visibility. On the right side when parallel parked passerbys would see it on a Plymouth or Dodge and recognize that it was a Chrysler product. On the left side or traffic side they wouldn't be noticed. And it saved a few pennies. Steve Halbrook sjhcobra1@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Rollright To: scattt Cc: tigers Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2013 2:51 pm Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars If you know boats or airplanes that's the 'star'bord side! Nuk, nuk So in a weird way, it makes sense. Jim A In a message dated 3/11/2013 12:59:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, scattt@verizon.net writes: If I remember correctly even the Chrysler products only had penta-stars on the right side! Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony McNulty" To: "Jim" ; ; Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars > Jim: > > I purchased my Mk IA new in April, 1966. It came with only one pentastar > on the passenger side. > > Tony McNulty > B382001321 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim" > To: ; > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 1:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars > > >> Jim, >> Are you positive there was one on each side? >> Rootes normally put only one on the right side. >> Check out an overpriced version on eBay, item number 140926902763 at >> $40.00 >> starting bid. I have a 1967 SV Alpine with only one on the lower right >> behind the right front wheel. >> Jim McLaughlin >> B382000175 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net >> [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] >> On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com >> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:54 AM >> To: tigers@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Tigers] penta-stars >> >> Hello, >> >> I'm pretty sure my late Mk IA (2083) originally came with Chrysler >> penta-stars, >> behind the wheel opening on the sides. >> >> They were gone when I got the car in 1976. >> >> Was there one on each side (total 2) and does anybody know a source ? >> >> Jim Armstrong >> Mk 1A >> 382002083 >> LRXFE >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimmc13@hughes.net >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/bamcnulty@optonline.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/scattt@verizon.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sjhcobra1@cs.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 11 18:08:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC5CC4249B for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 18:08:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from ent-mocinrl08.gannett.com (ent-mocinrl08.gannett.com [159.54.39.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D524053B for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 18:06:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ent-mocexhub01.us.ad.gannett.com (unknown [172.20.1.86]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ent-mocinrl08.gannett.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131CB2D5E11; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:05:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ENT-MOCEXCMB05.us.ad.gannett.com ([fe80::5d98:601a:f044:d018]) by ent-mocexhub01.us.ad.gannett.com ([::1]) with mapi; Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:05:04 -0400 From: "Teepen, Jere" To: Steve Halbrook , "Rollright@aol.com" , "scattt@verizon.net" Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:05:03 -0400 Thread-Topic: [Tigers] penta-stars Thread-Index: Ac4eszg6G+DWTCHmTV2a/Sct0ayX8wAAT6Ag References: <8098.5b356d3f.3e6f818b@aol.com> <8CFECC9F9A85C81-1AB4-4CEB5@webmail-d296.sysops.aol.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I am a bit late to the topic, but I recall my dad's Alpine had the pentastar on the right side only, and it was gold in color. I also recall plucking it off when the rust ate its way up from the rocker panel and around the pentastar. The pentastar was dangling from the last bit of metal in that area. This was in southwest Ohio around 1973, he had purchased the car new in 1968. The Alpine was later destroyed in a fire that consumed the shop it was at when the owner left oily/gassy rags in a can and they ignited due to spontaneous combustion. Jere -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Steve Halbrook Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 4:48 PM To: Rollright@aol.com; scattt@verizon.net Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars Chrysler did only put them on the right side and I believe that it had to do with visibility. On the right side when parallel parked passerbys would see it on a Plymouth or Dodge and recognize that it was a Chrysler product. On the left side or traffic side they wouldn't be noticed. And it saved a few pennies. Steve Halbrook sjhcobra1@cs.com -----Original Message----- From: Rollright To: scattt Cc: tigers Sent: Mon, Mar 11, 2013 2:51 pm Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars If you know boats or airplanes that's the 'star'bord side! Nuk, nuk So in a weird way, it makes sense. Jim A In a message dated 3/11/2013 12:59:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, scattt@verizon.net writes: If I remember correctly even the Chrysler products only had penta-stars on the right side! Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony McNulty" To: "Jim" ; ; Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars > Jim: > > I purchased my Mk IA new in April, 1966. It came with only one pentastar > on the passenger side. > > Tony McNulty > B382001321 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jim" > To: ; > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 1:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Tigers] penta-stars > > >> Jim, >> Are you positive there was one on each side? >> Rootes normally put only one on the right side. >> Check out an overpriced version on eBay, item number 140926902763 at >> $40.00 >> starting bid. I have a 1967 SV Alpine with only one on the lower right >> behind the right front wheel. >> Jim McLaughlin >> B382000175 >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net >> [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] >> On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com >> Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:54 AM >> To: tigers@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Tigers] penta-stars >> >> Hello, >> >> I'm pretty sure my late Mk IA (2083) originally came with Chrysler >> penta-stars, behind the wheel opening on the sides. >> >> They were gone when I got the car in 1976. >> >> Was there one on each side (total 2) and does anybody know a source ? >> >> Jim Armstrong >> Mk 1A >> 382002083 >> LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 12 15:17:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D13240420 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:17:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f46.google.com (mail-vb0-f46.google.com [209.85.212.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26BDC40403 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:16:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f46.google.com with SMTP id b13so131298vby.33 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:15:58 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=OFs4tShRRxfzxiLST50Z5NtgIFu1Ys01IcQcFo9AMkk=; b=UF3+zIhIZXOxl00+/ThKnG6VmzIoZ78HRWZTSXCR2IBNjQ28PFa1qrCAhrmj5Jc+kN XdGC4wjDks//nBPKFny+fHRnjARTWgUFEgibVDRH8nImyWCjo4YJaSR5DsX4PW/fWgyE HzqmLRbq2MK6xVFbiSnNZRrB7TEqbbSyImvJSauI0qMwp72HOHYq/pkxsE/8q0HZ7GrX 4ernpXrEl2FqUxD/7I12yR5pXQ0kMBgmbHyk7Izpg4agbAUYHBLR5+/05eA74AR3/aLb tKjI/JiRkH8ySVY0nzRtwXHlbx++HPBDZrfOmKgqn10PRRJMbmC3DBSuzWGN+M9RBY4e kF2w== gv1mr7314322veb.35.1363122958069; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.221.6.4 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:15:57 -0700 From: Jay Laifman To: "Tiger's Den" Subject: [Tigers] Girling Red Brake Grease Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I have the Tiger's servo open and I'm going to regrease the large seal. I see that the "correct" grease is stated as Girling Red Brake Grease. It is close to impossible to find - unless you call Sunbeam Specialties of course! But before I called them, I was searching the internet. I found there is a TRW Brake Grease that was made to be a replacement. I don't know if it is better than the red grease or not. But, it does not seem to be any easier to find. In my search, I did come across an odd site that listed substitutes. For the TRW Brake Grease, it actually lists it as "TRW/Lucas Brake Grease PFG110." I thought it was interesting that it included Lucas in the name. It also lists these two as alternatives: SLIPKOTE 211 Silicone Disc Brake Caliper Grease or SLIPKOTE 220-R with PTFE Disc Brake Caliper Grease. So, I did a search for brake caliper grease and came up with this stuff which appears to be more readily available: http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/CRC0/05359.oap?pt=N0448 My assumption is that if we can still get red brake grease, it is likely better than the substitutes - as the substitutes are probably less toxic, but not as good of a product. I also note that this brake grease says it is for lots of things that may or may not apply. That said, I'm not sure that the red grease that we can buy is the same as what it used to be. So, does anyone think this stuff is actually better and should be used instead? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 12 15:24:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E62E040449 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:24:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (fed1rmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B2E403D9 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:24:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo110 ([68.230.241.159]) by fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20130312212313.KBPM2351.fed1rmfepo102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo110> for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 17:23:13 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([98.176.175.211]) by fed1rmimpo110 with cox id AlPC1l00P4a29bW01lPDrb; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 17:23:13 -0400 a=rR9K1oR5/RaFCizM4piVIw==:17 a=JP6V11akxEkA:10 a=uNjIoOTpDLIA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=DkG_4P4gUvQA:10 a=eacmjLeNAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=L4zZH8-_exUg3HbQJngA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=rR9K1oR5/RaFCizM4piVIw==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=sosnaenergyconsulting@cox.net Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 14:23:15 -0700 From: David Sosna User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130221 Thunderbird/17.0.3 To: tigers@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Tigers] Girling Red Brake Grease Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Jay: I think Moss Motors still sells the individual saches (sp?) of Girling red brake grease. Best Regards David Sosna On 03/12/2013 02:15 PM, Jay Laifman wrote: > I have the Tiger's servo open and I'm going to regrease the large seal. > > I see that the "correct" grease is stated as Girling Red Brake Grease. It > is close to impossible to find - unless you call Sunbeam Specialties of > course! > > But before I called them, I was searching the internet. I found there is a > TRW Brake Grease that was made to be a replacement. I don't know if it is > better than the red grease or not. But, it does not seem to be any easier > to find. > > In my search, I did come across an odd site that listed substitutes. For > the TRW Brake Grease, it actually lists it as "TRW/Lucas Brake Grease > PFG110." I thought it was interesting that it included Lucas in the name. > It also lists these two as alternatives: SLIPKOTE 211 Silicone Disc Brake > Caliper Grease or SLIPKOTE 220-R with PTFE Disc Brake Caliper Grease. > > So, I did a search for brake caliper grease and came up with this stuff > which appears to be more readily available: > http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/CRC0/05359.oap?pt=N0448 > > My assumption is that if we can still get red brake grease, it is likely > better than the substitutes - as the substitutes are probably less toxic, > but not as good of a product. I also note that this brake grease says it > is for lots of things that may or may not apply. That said, I'm not sure > that the red grease that we can buy is the same as what it used to be. > > So, does anyone think this stuff is actually better and should be used > instead? > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sosnaenergyconsulting@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 12 16:31:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9974140422 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:31:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f174.google.com (mail-vc0-f174.google.com [209.85.220.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D36D4040A for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:29:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f174.google.com with SMTP id n11so198460vch.33 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:28:28 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=yeGiGiEij5Y0vguDa0IgGCA5iFc1pFw754u3QMSl2+U=; b=y2lpYYTu8I9Zrrjgl76ku/0IUwxWix1cd4RkdLpUuSmuyGzz/f0z79Hq8GUioB0ILF BGtOpls5POcfBxOAJhGbg9LUS+G8S+AjThtktLdOH37NfFcK0z/ce8qGjn+l6FwvK/d0 Xqo0zFzOqSbsNiggdZPGMh/onGvsWCg7XF9dbe8f/ohDhLUoPv/TAoJzjSj506qExQuF 0974jrsM0pCyH/vp59Jskj+7sxBsCRBzFtpMx0Wbei4vQuLuGLjG0qO1AX7rZCpzb3M5 ogIB8vVNVEge3Aj8FRtWA/js8o2nuiHa+rBq4Odao1lIKILRQIFPjQXjruZAHKYlhj8D aQFQ== cg1mr6318792vdc.1.1363127308033; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:28:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.221.6.4 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:28:27 -0700 (PDT) References: <513F9CC3.9070406@cox.net> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:28:27 -0700 From: Jay Laifman To: David Sosna Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Girling Red Brake Grease Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks. Yes, Sunbeam Specialties sells it, and I bought it from them. I was just wondering if the "new" stuff might be better - and spreading the information I came across in the situation that the SS/MM stuff finally disappears. Jay On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:23 PM, David Sosna wrote: > Hi Jay: > I think Moss Motors still sells the individual saches (sp?) of Girling red > brake grease. > > Best Regards > > David Sosna > On 03/12/2013 02:15 PM, Jay Laifman wrote: > >> I have the Tiger's servo open and I'm going to regrease the large seal. >> >> I see that the "correct" grease is stated as Girling Red Brake Grease. It >> is close to impossible to find - unless you call Sunbeam Specialties of >> course! >> >> But before I called them, I was searching the internet. I found there is >> a >> TRW Brake Grease that was made to be a replacement. I don't know if it is >> better than the red grease or not. But, it does not seem to be any easier >> to find. >> >> In my search, I did come across an odd site that listed substitutes. For >> the TRW Brake Grease, it actually lists it as "TRW/Lucas Brake Grease >> PFG110." I thought it was interesting that it included Lucas in the name. >> It also lists these two as alternatives: SLIPKOTE 211 Silicone Disc Brake >> Caliper Grease or SLIPKOTE 220-R with PTFE Disc Brake Caliper Grease. >> >> So, I did a search for brake caliper grease and came up with this stuff >> which appears to be more readily available: >> http://www.oreillyauto.com/**site/c/detail/CRC0/05359.oap?**pt=N0448 >> >> My assumption is that if we can still get red brake grease, it is likely >> better than the substitutes - as the substitutes are probably less toxic, >> but not as good of a product. I also note that this brake grease says it >> is for lots of things that may or may not apply. That said, I'm not sure >> that the red grease that we can buy is the same as what it used to be. >> >> So, does anyone think this stuff is actually better and should be used >> instead? >> ______________________________**_________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/tigers/** >> sosnaenergyconsulting@cox.net >> > ______________________________**_________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/tigers/jay.laifman@** > gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 12 16:51:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA2E4041B for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:51:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f43.google.com (mail-vb0-f43.google.com [209.85.212.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B6074040A for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:51:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f43.google.com with SMTP id fs19so169054vbb.2 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:50:27 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Yk1JirXYt6qwAsF/FE2hzA5CMIcbMkyEfsDELQkRxio=; b=xbR7Uf2yrWGHcvuZu8IC3FwPutxbqeHDHCaIrfH19It84nfmkPxUyb+yGG1/Pzw+Z8 fTSYqCIzgM+FJLFoM4S6/KTO0B1C+UUFd4MZ/Ye66t9MM9PeVc+h65rU0JwCUG0ES5Hs kpjpwPiRuDQpBJg3yyN6bIX8p0xeDngoBt8ZSj2jTm0TAo2LtPCdzCMYdmCfcjl+bF+V 7KIfznGU9zzdoi82VWsW6N+OWVBYXFT3MrTSPD9fdTs9id3GjvpANB3m661z5H8LvJD+ NiGUc9No66vaVgjLSap0NY4i876N2fwjfbuffNEQ4S/lU15g3UJ481b5WNJlP6P7D3yX mE4Q== cg1mr6338988vdc.1.1363128627566; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:50:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.221.6.4 with HTTP; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:50:27 -0700 (PDT) References: <513F9CC3.9070406@cox.net> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 15:50:27 -0700 From: Jay Laifman To: David Sosna Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Girling Red Brake Grease Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net And I just got an email from Rick. I had not purchased it from Rick, but his assistant. Rick said that the red grease is not for the leather seal. He suggested a moly type grease and that some people use vaseline. I know my wife uses Aquafor for her hands instead of vaseline. http://www.eucerinus.com/products/aquaphor/aquaphor-healing-ointment.html I wonder if that would be even better. I suspect though that it might not last with any hint of brake fluid. On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 2:23 PM, David Sosna wrote: > Hi Jay: > I think Moss Motors still sells the individual saches (sp?) of Girling red > brake grease. > > Best Regards > > David Sosna > On 03/12/2013 02:15 PM, Jay Laifman wrote: > >> I have the Tiger's servo open and I'm going to regrease the large seal. >> >> I see that the "correct" grease is stated as Girling Red Brake Grease. It >> is close to impossible to find - unless you call Sunbeam Specialties of >> course! >> >> But before I called them, I was searching the internet. I found there is >> a >> TRW Brake Grease that was made to be a replacement. I don't know if it is >> better than the red grease or not. But, it does not seem to be any easier >> to find. >> >> In my search, I did come across an odd site that listed substitutes. For >> the TRW Brake Grease, it actually lists it as "TRW/Lucas Brake Grease >> PFG110." I thought it was interesting that it included Lucas in the name. >> It also lists these two as alternatives: SLIPKOTE 211 Silicone Disc Brake >> Caliper Grease or SLIPKOTE 220-R with PTFE Disc Brake Caliper Grease. >> >> So, I did a search for brake caliper grease and came up with this stuff >> which appears to be more readily available: >> http://www.oreillyauto.com/**site/c/detail/CRC0/05359.oap?**pt=N0448 >> >> My assumption is that if we can still get red brake grease, it is likely >> better than the substitutes - as the substitutes are probably less toxic, >> but not as good of a product. I also note that this brake grease says it >> is for lots of things that may or may not apply. That said, I'm not sure >> that the red grease that we can buy is the same as what it used to be. >> >> So, does anyone think this stuff is actually better and should be used >> instead? >> ______________________________**_________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/tigers/** >> sosnaenergyconsulting@cox.net >> > ______________________________**_________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/tigers/jay.laifman@** > gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 12 23:12:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C08E94044C for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 23:12:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E9394044E for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 23:11:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C911A145D for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2013 23:12:44 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 23:12:44 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16 To: Tiger's List Subject: [Tigers] Forums Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I have fixed the problem with new registrations for the forums [ link below ] so those who are not already registered can sign up. mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 13 10:34:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2D542836 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:34:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from txofep02.suddenlink.net (txofep02.suddenlink.net [208.180.40.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CC7B4041B for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:33:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Roscrea ([74.196.108.150]) by txofep02.suddenlink.net (InterMail vM.8.04.01.08 201-2343-100-153-20121108) with ESMTP id <20130313163219.KVEY23189.txofep02.suddenlink.net@Roscrea>; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:32:19 -0500 From: "Jerry Mo Christopherson" To: "'Jay Laifman'" , "'Tiger's Den'" References: Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:32:21 -0500 Thread-Index: AQIeDQwIgxPP1U/EKGa8zWv6sx4neJgD9Gpw Content-Language: en-us cv=pj97rWZ28UB8kLfmnsTZJouRq3qYSelmwyJagC3zNXI= c=1 sm=0 a=uNjIoOTpDLIA:10 a=xzW3HwPJiLYA:10 a=VPHkNMUpP2kA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=eacmjLeNAAAA:8 a=8LaAqv5HAAAA:8 a=IWGPw7NMy4aPPRrv_j0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=gPGHqaX6uacA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Girling Red Brake Grease Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Just as a "here's what I did" category. When I did my servo (13 years ago) I sent the "can" off and had it coated (inside) with a Teflon type of coating (I think it was the type of stuff they put on the outside of piston skirts). I've had no issues of ANY kind since. Jerry Christopherson 9473187 TAC inspector #58 -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Laifman Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 4:16 PM To: Tiger's Den Subject: [Tigers] Girling Red Brake Grease I have the Tiger's servo open and I'm going to regrease the large seal. I see that the "correct" grease is stated as Girling Red Brake Grease. It is close to impossible to find - unless you call Sunbeam Specialties of course! But before I called them, I was searching the internet. I found there is a TRW Brake Grease that was made to be a replacement. I don't know if it is better than the red grease or not. But, it does not seem to be any easier to find. In my search, I did come across an odd site that listed substitutes. For the TRW Brake Grease, it actually lists it as "TRW/Lucas Brake Grease PFG110." I thought it was interesting that it included Lucas in the name. It also lists these two as alternatives: SLIPKOTE 211 Silicone Disc Brake Caliper Grease or SLIPKOTE 220-R with PTFE Disc Brake Caliper Grease. So, I did a search for brake caliper grease and came up with this stuff which appears to be more readily available: http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/CRC0/05359.oap?pt=N0448 My assumption is that if we can still get red brake grease, it is likely better than the substitutes - as the substitutes are probably less toxic, but not as good of a product. I also note that this brake grease says it is for lots of things that may or may not apply. That said, I'm not sure that the red grease that we can buy is the same as what it used to be. So, does anyone think this stuff is actually better and should be used instead? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jcmc2006@suddenlink.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 13 11:13:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FC944044B for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:13:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net (txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net [208.180.40.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857BC40443 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:13:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Roscrea ([74.196.108.150]) by txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net (InterMail vM.8.04.01.08 201-2343-100-153-20121108) with ESMTP id <20130313171022.YOJQ21381.txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net@Roscrea> for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:10:22 -0500 From: "Jerry Mo Christopherson" To: "Tiger Autox" Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:12:36 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4gDfRRaWac9IJhR2mWQQ/qUDNNNg== Content-Language: en-us cv=c/DLzSAT69tkIBo50xSE+TqiyXKeVw/DCN8JHeK6KKA= c=1 sm=0 a=xzW3HwPJiLYA:10 a=VPHkNMUpP2kA:10 a=8LaAqv5HAAAA:8 a=d8Kek8_gFe54eJWY5kAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=gPGHqaX6uacA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=bavYpCrVmHXD5G9jn_gA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Subject: [Tigers] Found information Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mr. Mayf, please contact me off line. I have found the aerodynamic info I promised you way back when. Jerry Christopherson 9473187 jcmc2006@suddenlink.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 13 12:27:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE944055B for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:27:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f170.google.com (mail-ve0-f170.google.com [209.85.128.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F1540445 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:27:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f170.google.com with SMTP id 14so1011932vea.15 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:26:34 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=wjxSXzhrA1Hn6FUgMeKiYyue+g0HKNRsRZuh+3MftXE=; b=tpVvVQ4Hw4/a357/HRKVQXoylq2O4eOrYefYwGPBLltak9BA286nkR+fIpT1M16/9v xCxAZrvjQ+Ya1uqq1Pqqp/6/J1Tx11tpbS2jQyFVuW8pO023ljIrw6nATnFpzLopAFt8 VXTLaCNETck7pgufrqcHZchNmBTS7KxovAO9cOG6fG2PfESdhg+gkOVEGZ8Hw3FxwHxO RQnb/Hpa2qkNK//k58TmWDb+tDAcMwinjR41Bb3wZxXIucGEi03it9h/VRI8N0lvUtcQ oGInou/+T2CyDtPHnyT7C6D78zV/MTyy68c7uf7DcaGlVV+paWT534CAOYh86nYNW2NE 2pMA== wb9mr7483897vdb.65.1363199194674; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:26:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.221.6.4 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:26:34 -0700 (PDT) References: <513F9CC3.9070406@cox.net> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 11:26:34 -0700 From: Jay Laifman To: David Sosna Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Girling Red Brake Grease Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net FYI, I just heard from Rick that he has lots of it and has no trouble getting more. So, all is good. Jay _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 13 12:36:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E778442565 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:36:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5247040445 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 12:35:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id BFFEB1C0001A7 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:34:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mlb002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mlb002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.186.144]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 93392E000087 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:34:34 -0400 (EDT) From: MWood24020@aol.com Full-name: MWood24020 Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 14:34:34 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363199674; bh=e/mhXlPpjKJLNn+2z2NYUbdrssuW0IkGoIO+QZsREfM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sLBk6/1AEej2xTWtTy8r9NeGpHi5vGEaCsAzaKcThMVmHbkMfJoALci+pWxtBn5Qh fjT06ctnnYpRTV78EAcyinNjbIHqjZr/qVzLIh2gptrSzNlstzwAnleCSvgx+q1OoP V34fUm1z59XlVF2VECaH5MCmZFiDM2886LOcWm78= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d5140c6ba419d Subject: [Tigers] need Tiger radiator core Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net If anyone has an old, unloved stock Tiger radiator taking up space in the garage (like, someone who has upgraded to a better solution...which would be most everybody), I'm in need of a radiator. Please let me know what you might have. Thanks Mike Wood _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 14 07:54:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8008840512 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:54:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f54.google.com (mail-pb0-f54.google.com [209.85.160.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4806C40430 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 07:54:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id rr4so2244440pbb.27 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 06:53:10 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=8hNrpBMOGOuXpX71DmvWmjD7iwvWN+V/Ymp4Tqqp3eA=; b=ICRrsmdc8nMY+24o5HKr5KhgJzZ1o1NI0u1uHdY7laqKig15piPL1Kxb+65rHsE986 mTgHc7y11uNsatAVoeXmi2B48zOphvNSJM9CWIgAdLlw+L8510D1kj4gW9yySq3yBPNp +UAx/Nhv3RgnOQIllSDd+Dziy061TF7IDM/0tpR7JivGFp9pByNrBtMne6gG1R/vxUEg f+BcL/veASkaOVlwx7695kMCeU7LGd8aT9LVUdP+Dr4N0ofV1+2tixHTAZ9ybPSMC3Bs paNLXxM7k69jRHxYeQ/8Mk3X+D37W0b4CDTCSeMFhX01n3/NPqJIf8380shGSd9Qrq6O nPfg== Thu, 14 Mar 2013 06:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.36.130 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 06:53:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 08:53:10 -0500 From: Cullen McCann To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Sunbeam, but Non Tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net for those who get the "Bring a Trailer" daily digest, this came up. I actually havent spend much time looking at one. Pretty neat! If you are one of those guys who has a Tiger, Alpine, Imp, Rapier, Stiletto, etc...and want one of every sunbeam, dont miss this one. ;) http://bringatrailer.com/2013/03/13/never-seen-one-1964-sunbeam-venezia-superleggera/ just passing it along. Cullen McCann Yukon, OK B382001452 LROFE TAC 840 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 14 10:57:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F3B64044C for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:57:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1093403B1 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:55:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id AE75B1C000118 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:54:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mld003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mld003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.122.81]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 6AA77E00008D for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:54:29 -0400 (EDT) From: CoolVT@aol.com Full-name: CoolVT Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:54:29 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363280069; bh=dIB5h8+Fwc/N4c9+/CJBVOnwx78e2l0ouabjm+DNLSY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hFSEjZJt4gjgMoGujJ0J/0YFNOq6a1cPPrJJerCBNJipx2QuajXf8TfZYAJZlmjtx WfM3F/QtpAeolhoNGIUKPgKnYjdCoIL63cSj3oG69cHkK0YGDAsdJn/MfRYK+KKpHJ k4gYw4ED3kMO7RGIloUHYGu9+TN8UBLuCFmussuw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b514200c54546 Subject: [Tigers] Interesting hack Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I went to the "Bring a Trailer" site mentioned on the list for a non-Tiger. The car was listed in the UK. Within a half hour of visiting the site my email account was hacked and sending out messages. The interesting thing is that these hacked emails are coming from the UK. Is there a connection? Mark L _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 14 11:13:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F8740396 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:13:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from exprod5og107.obsmtp.com (exprod5og107.obsmtp.com [64.18.0.184]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AFD040396 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:13:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from alpmlip10.e2k.ad.ge.com ([165.156.5.1]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5ob107.postini.com ([64.18.4.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUUIE1iv+TcuNN3X+Cddpv9qQuh0+bpEH@postini.com; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:11:51 PDT Received: from unknown (HELO cinmlef06.e2k.ad.ge.com) ([3.159.213.37]) by alpmlip10.e2k.ad.ge.com with ESMTP; 14 Mar 2013 13:11:49 -0400 Received: from alpmlef03.e2k.ad.ge.com ([3.159.18.12]) by cinmlef06.e2k.ad.ge.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:11:48 -0400 Received: from CINMLCH02.e2k.ad.ge.com ([3.159.212.51]) by alpmlef03.e2k.ad.ge.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:11:46 -0400 Received: from CINMBCNA14.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.212.224) by CINMLCH02.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.212.51) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.318.4; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:11:45 -0400 Received: from CINMBCNA01.e2k.ad.ge.com ([169.254.1.166]) by CINMBCNA14.e2k.ad.ge.com ([169.254.2.170]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:11:45 -0400 From: "Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light)" To: "CoolVT@aol.com" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Interesting hack Thread-Index: AQHOINT0HedJEJI5s0GO09at+lN3KZilbA9g Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 17:11:44 +0000 References: <2896e.35b6191e.3e735ac4@aol.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [3.159.212.191] FILETIME=[022B9070:01CE20D7] Subject: Re: [Tigers] Interesting hack Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Are the hacked email messages flickering, smoking or leaking oil? -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of CoolVT@aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:54 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Interesting hack I went to the "Bring a Trailer" site mentioned on the list for a non-Tiger. The car was listed in the UK. Within a half hour of visiting the site my email account was hacked and sending out messages. The interesting thing is that these hacked emails are coming from the UK. Is there a connection? Mark L _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 14 11:30:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571A5406AE for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:30:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f174.google.com (mail-vc0-f174.google.com [209.85.220.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F0A403E4 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:30:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f174.google.com with SMTP id hx10so582672vcb.33 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:29:28 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority :x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=E3ijZXLXRu9+E+Q2iBXnuufmMFoi9YFOjz1UXsk6Xm4=; b=jeWmxXI3FMSG79HFIM0VodrryM8Ot/ca+p3RolhpOes3+aNHeFe/+EwKuv5TXxHHjy aQ3fRc7W4ZyQCt+nLyB5UzR85vdHI0dMyctnAubrxy/7v/+u+KkYS9hjzoXRonjErffK DUSJO72wrgsYtWIVE5sodpitInpOVVTIV7qOI= d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority :x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole:x-gm-message-state; bh=E3ijZXLXRu9+E+Q2iBXnuufmMFoi9YFOjz1UXsk6Xm4=; b=GprCmA8By+7eldGw9+oqYMowaF3voXdg7SjAHBWIp1RPldI5ZUl5C2GAwnarRNdaa3 Ohkj/AkUaGQAd8raS2rGYmGlj7/RepjZ/UNM6FlAfwxshoIWjQDUnoUOkY/wDEXT/P2+ g+t6RdunZcfSSaJvk9lZ3o0cQdFwIPmcTe3f0MCz5nWmWm9cg16bS+Qa5KRgFGVldLGL u2oq9mWbda7Ievh6EM1GvNg83x3w03KAv0CR1YclJg7CSD2iZevmFdruAcIu3exCB7+3 aOWkc4Dc7gziONBfkftLkQiioS6m60opq3ZsqlTo+xjPcTj7MIODAac/qpjW6UOrWnSU /yBw== c15mr2430623vdj.25.1363282168090; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DavePC (DRMONS0540W-156034170254.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.ns.bellaliant.net. [156.34.170.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id q5sm2538603vdj.5.2013.03.14.10.29.27 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:29:27 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dave Munroe" To: "Rense, Mark \(GE, Appl & Light\)" , , References: <2896e.35b6191e.3e735ac4@aol.com> <26805228D183EF4E9C6F4499BB55B0512FA3B85E@CINMBCNA01.e2k.ad.ge.com> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:29:26 -0300 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Interesting hack Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net " Are the hacked email messages flickering, smoking or leaking oil?" OK Mark, that remark caught me off guard and I almost fell off my chair laughing! -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of CoolVT@aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 12:54 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Interesting hack I went to the "Bring a Trailer" site mentioned on the list for a non-Tiger. The car was listed in the UK. Within a half hour of visiting the site my email account was hacked and sending out messages. The interesting thing is that these hacked emails are coming from the UK. Is there a connection? Mark L _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 14 12:17:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D6340512 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:17:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-gg0-f173.google.com (mail-gg0-f173.google.com [209.85.161.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE0FD40381 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:17:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-gg0-f173.google.com with SMTP id b6so432630ggm.32 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:16:16 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date :to; bh=7wVtVTdTENqqjgp7QFiBsS5mbOE214hiRxfYOsNsRDE=; b=pCwbEqSaYzaxYfP+RMJvJ2mft0eOLsC/s/FyIDaMftMxXZYlolniD98bKAc7gQhFi2 kelTqpk40+nrX8KIlxR3uuIkMVWrmfO3XU6kCzHjyQ4SR0ZoLZYlJD2dmsJ/I+J8eCY2 vbRTEQkg/ouXNWO94WwbtlTsFo2i/tqgpgXW1RVL965EaoWCNgJI79UgRzootjJqfQbE eNzzEvZ5W2TvpNtDxK2LGDUOzQK/p4g6vNyhHRddT+rsuXz8N8KAn8bCd9kTUXuGuXhK yjGkVNlZjOMrVsch50wPIsvbE4XV+O/K1HV+Z5cQFctnvovvufb0i9RNHHBm0uy04Y2n QQ/g== v24mr4362745yhj.116.1363284976117; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.17.230.121] (mobile-166-137-145-222.mycingular.net. [166.137.145.222]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w7sm6099290yhj.0.2013.03.14.11.16.12 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Mar 2013 11:16:14 -0700 (PDT) References: <2896e.35b6191e.3e735ac4@aol.com> From: Cullen1972 Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:16:07 -0500 To: "CoolVT@aol.com" Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Interesting hack Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry mark. I feel responsible. Although I have been to the site both from home and work computer, and I'm not seeing any signs of trouble. Still, sorry to send you down that path. Cullen. Sent from my iPhone. On Mar 14, 2013, at 11:54 AM, CoolVT@aol.com wrote: > I went to the "Bring a Trailer" site mentioned on the list for a > non-Tiger. The car was listed in the UK. Within a half hour of visiting the site > my email account was hacked and sending out messages. The interesting thing > is that these hacked emails are coming from the UK. Is there a connection? > Mark L > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmccann1972@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 14 12:38:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D028E40EC2 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:38:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A61403C6 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 12:38:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.77]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C27641C0000FE for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:36:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dqc003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqc003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.161.137]) by mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3DFAEE000087 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:36:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Rollright@aol.com Full-name: Rollright Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 14:36:48 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363286208; bh=/x//wtsTAChJCh04yMhZLWYzVR6YWh/jzzq6Tc9KXqo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yrhK8HBl9vLQluoWRB4Q8ZcWfs7EbUe01qMtYCLBc07L9PeuzlQap1NECkokZj6UK 45KyfP20+kZAw6M15rzgIGQB0SNoZ4wo2HFhILeo1gRPPUzx9WVDtwR+e6X93dyC0r TnRmKQkakzxTUhA6UEBQjuUpEyW8RyjgmlDz2XtI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294d514218c07c11 Subject: [Tigers] oil dipstick on ebay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Some people were looking for this in the past This is the type that came on my Mk 1A and on a spare Tiger engine that came out of a wreck I bought years ago. It even has the oil splash "bell" stop at the top. Parts book shows one that has a 90 degree crank, but I've never seen one of those in person. I suspect if it ever existed, it was on deeply early Mk 1s search ebay under "Sunbeam Tiger OEM oil dip stick". Being sold with a gas line. No connection to me. I just stumbled on it. Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 14 13:16:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2199640512 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:16:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E32940518 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:15:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.201]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0B7A2380000E2; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:14:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mld003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mld003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.122.81]) by mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CF0CBE00008D; Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:14:05 -0400 (EDT) From: CoolVT@aol.com Full-name: CoolVT Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 15:14:05 -0400 (EDT) To: cmccann1972@gmail.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363288445; bh=wArfLI3RXISdy2L1dBpMb815EGW2PWOkAj/rFI+Dzmw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rpz5DfMfQAyKm7avRDR/fnREqSPN0Y1j47UBtwZsKri/pTyDlNLc7FPIsgc41U4G5 s1Syc2kRJKviJWF2H7cZ5WkeE1mupg4kB19ZXaNvoLOPS+Jz2ZpPHVUSFbtX1o6nBV xzppG0IfgPk1Jj+dBZSVpEQ/5SbJC9q79pcFt4jo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c95142217d083d Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Interesting hack Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Cullen, Please don't worry about it. I've been hacked before. This is the first time that there appeared that there might be some direct connection....but maybe it was a coincidence. Anyway, not to worry. Mark L In a message dated 3/14/2013 3:12:08 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, cmccann1972@gmail.com writes: Sorry mark. I feel responsible. Although I have been to the site both from home and work computer, and I'm not seeing any signs of trouble. Still, sorry to send you down that path. Cullen. Sent from my iPhone. On Mar 14, 2013, at 11:54 AM, CoolVT@aol.com wrote: > I went to the "Bring a Trailer" site mentioned on the list for a > non-Tiger. The car was listed in the UK. Within a half hour of visiting the site > my email account was hacked and sending out messages. The interesting thing > is that these hacked emails are coming from the UK. Is there a connection? > Mark L > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmccann1972@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 15 10:55:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D37DA42565 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:55:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C56E4053F for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:54:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004961.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r2FGrCIv021666 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:53:33 -0700 Received: by dm0225.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 40188c2e) id dm0225.513ff361.6ebe1 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 09:53:26 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 12:53:17 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4hnZdNK4yKWNy8SfuHHWJaTsDHbQ== engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-15_07:2013-03-15,2013-03-15,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1211240000 definitions=main-1303150112 Subject: [Tigers] original Tiger Starter Relay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone have a picture of the original Tiger starter relay? The Parts List indicates 2 parts were used. C4AF-11450-A-B I believe this indicates 2 parts. C4AF-11450-A and C4AF-11450-B I'm just researching these parts a little. Ford history indicates 4 possible relays were available at this time. I would just like to narrow the possibilities. Thanks Ron Fraser _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 15 11:12:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995084257A for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:12:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ia0-f180.google.com (mail-ia0-f180.google.com [209.85.210.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D5554054C for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:12:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ia0-f180.google.com with SMTP id f27so3465898iae.11 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:11:09 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:x-mimeole; bh=9DxH3V22KDQXsr1wbs89yEsertNrJAuM9v/fs6rkegc=; b=rght6d3x1MvW/iiMZSaSyYMUgYfB2zkyDfpMy70FiivMURiIlOrVDLOZ9xX2jpp9Hi oKoHiGGVsa9L7ufRfikqB9QvAKDZuqbJXhErmsJS1RB7KEKEP7cSQL30kZs4trwPsuh1 a/M/e3w+asUznun0JPSsSe1yAhl39mz3j+oVAyT2A3+23C8qG4W8bwUhV2eV9N92whhC pqwy7q6AJ4Dex72qG7baKy1VBHYQL3jN2Yt4ClVBZI+rHIndm5Oai19TkFQI43D/L/SX 9wSTeUinOPP0QEugk5Snamt4iMIlaXMSQ9HuZN5Y6CNJ7HY3JKXxphfo+s9qOmNTuzqV z0+A== qd1mr1701459igb.40.1363367469228; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from delld630 ([76.241.113.69]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id px9sm2539947igc.0.2013.03.15.10.11.08 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:11:08 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mark Rense" To: Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:11:08 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4hoBWmATk+zfj8QqCkMz5tqKY/pA== Subject: [Tigers] Steering Column Maintenance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Gang, Taking the steering column out for painting this afternoon, the bearings seem tight and the locking hub works fine. Is there anything I should do to it while it is out and accessible? Thanks, Mark _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 15 14:28:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447DB4038C for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:28:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from wh-qmail03.webhero.com (wh-qmailb03.webhero.com [209.217.42.23]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D8934042B for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:24:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 9747 invoked by uid 10000); 15 Mar 2013 20:23:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO HPLaptop) (70.174.51.228) by wh-qmail03b.webhero.com with SMTP; 15 Mar 2013 20:23:36 -0000 From: To: Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 16:22:54 -0400 Content-Language: en-us Thread-index: Ac4hut+EWDiAUWzAQ0y12A3jE/Lhug== Cc: john.procida@gmail.com Subject: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Still looking for information on the clutch fork for the 5 bolt bell housing. I need more responses to dimensions of the fork as per drawing (email me for drawing if you can help). I haven't heard back from anyone as to what the clearance is from the end of the fork arc to any obstruction like body parts or exhaust. So far, I might try purchasing a 10-1/2" clip style fork and replacing the clip with the wire spring retainer setup. Any input would be helpful. Thanks to the few that have sent the requested info. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 15 18:16:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDBC6428F1 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:16:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm15.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (unknown [98.139.44.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E66C40323 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 18:10:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.106] by nm15.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2013 00:09:07 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.82] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2013 00:09:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Mar 2013 00:09:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 83908 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Mar 2013 00:09:07 -0000 s=s1024; t=1363392547; bh=aYZxJZfQbNCHxwEIhoZzk4KmsXMFFmliy/XfTgNZe9E=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fy9z6sUXDoVc8rPSXmpK+XNKiJGBTh8xag0QLxQx2GflXqCSS1lbXDGV5TnojOHirdUF2FFVvcshOHI4YYmDTGHfOeTIB9r9t/195PsMazfzCDYnC5qNcolv0mxJ1RcyqwhVvIiKvjLVQpU+weKYyusSWqB+7L2jtK56ddAWttI= s=s1024; d=prodigy.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=m7yEXyC5bWGCPLMzxm7WEEFHHAdd8ev3w48+kJWqDlmDJtNektcMnm3mpIY/0LjbjAqn6sfxJTPY45SmRFcq0NEELcaNcy0/vEL/VHmNzkNGEI5yGJRGxJgKWhAvHnqr0tzFvXpdizvaTr1gfoIJ2rlr+rYJrB85Ao67Gs+oucg=; T6veC7yUwf6BIXCZizmQZ42jO1pvhjLu17oh6Dk5170RLaQf1JCr1.Sl9BS1 W2SCuRzxrtl4rN0pXuR_u5MZhnYpX54DAmqVJrpVhwZd84837HijiIksuVyp XkGAnw1rKLef8mOz44LAH4j3EwcYOVD.RsPRTgo5nwPZCQswClrerJvJzEeo 40qcBsPXinI1uuprWVp4G0.s6l4qv2O0QBVfMUnwoQuXgiqyIH6gR5NQH5t3 lX..7JYxDWgwHmSXtAXr1iN7IxR64w.qhGwArAZl7SpvQ1xbA33nE9RK79Bn FtzSggCfDEErxmySKoxHUrN4ksiQx8RtrGw1EwLy1eMdUGSf9azHUWoC4iQZ I3BljHigy6kxiUKmTXKJMcpmW8gyGQDt.C.GTZ54jddmw15G3z8pVjkWFRdv t175YOdIo1fVPcxj.anX_sYP0EbLLHaNfBQmxCKGjItPU7LR8ezvxT_79HIW 7daB05WntP71ICQ8VPEQ- Received: from [76.101.230.63] by web185005.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:09:07 PDT SXMgdGhlcmUgYW55b25lIGluIHRoZSBGbGFnc3RhZmYsIEFyaXpvbmEgYXJlYSB3aG8gY291bGQgbG9vayBhdCBhIGNhciBmb3IgbWUuwqAgSXQgaXMgbm90IGEgVGlnZXIuwqAgQSBmcmllbmQgb2YgbWluZSBoYXMgYSBwYXNzaW9uIGZvciBhIDMwOCBGZXJyYXJpcyBhbmQgaGFzIGZvdW5kIG9uZSBoZSBpcyBpbnRlcmVzdGVkIGluLsKgIEFzIHdlIGFyZSBUaWdlciBvd25lcnMsIGl0IGlzIGVhc3kgdG8gbG9vayBhdCBvbmUgb2YgdGhlc2UgYW5kIGtub3cgaWYgaXQgaXMgYSAicGlsZSIuDQpUaGFua3MgZm8BMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:09:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul R Sheahan To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Need some Help Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Is there anyone in the Flagstaff, Arizona area who could look at a car for me. It is not a Tiger. A friend of mine has a passion for a 308 Ferraris and has found one he is interested in. As we are Tiger owners, it is easy to look at one of these and know if it is a "pile". Thanks for any help. Paul Paul R Sheahan _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 15 22:57:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E27942D94 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:57:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.air-internet.com (cumulus.air-internet.com [12.110.32.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C1D042D79 for ; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 22:56:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 3711 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2013 04:55:15 -0000 Received: from host-246.ennis.tx.speednet.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (69.54.100.246) by cumulus.air-internet.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2013 04:55:15 -0000 Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 21:55:10 -0700 From: Larry Mayfield Organization: Mayfield Motorsport User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Ebay Tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net A friend in texas sent me a listing for a Tiger on Ebay. I looked, know nothing about the car but is looks very restorable... Here is link: may have to paste it in the browser...I did.. mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 16 10:27:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7ED44311F for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2013 10:27:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.air-internet.com (cumulus.air-internet.com [12.110.32.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8169F430F9 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2013 10:27:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 16065 invoked from network); 16 Mar 2013 16:25:47 -0000 Received: from host-246.ennis.tx.speednet.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (69.54.100.246) by cumulus.air-internet.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2013 16:25:47 -0000 Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2013 09:25:45 -0700 From: Larry Mayfield Organization: Mayfield Motorsport User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Off Topic - Girling Vacuum Brake Booster Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I have a need to try an convert a Girling vacuum brake booster (from a 1976 Jag XJ-S) to use pressure on the pedal side rather than vacuum on the master cylinder side. I have the sucker almost apart, but have no clue as to how to remove the pedal push part to get at the valving inside. Is there one or more of you guys familiar with disassembly of this booster unit? Or even know where I can get a cutaway or sketch of something that can provide a clue for me? yes, I am occasionally clueless....needing help .... mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 17 06:40:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E277942E94 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 06:40:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7825342E7D for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 06:37:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004961.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r2HCZVlh005391; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 05:36:27 -0700 Received: by dm0225.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4348622d) id dm0225.513ff361.ad1c6; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 05:36:20 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.176.163]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 12:36:12 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: , Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 08:36:09 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4iYvYFqMGOWC0NQb6iDkr6KtKaQwAqJ50g engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-17_04:2013-03-15,2013-03-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1211240000 definitions=main-1303170078 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Off Topic - Girling Vacuum Brake Booster Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mayf If it is similar to the Tiger brake booster; there is a cut away in the Shop Manual. Section K, pg 20 Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:26 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Off Topic - Girling Vacuum Brake Booster Question I have a need to try an convert a Girling vacuum brake booster (from a 1976 Jag XJ-S) to use pressure on the pedal side rather than vacuum on the master cylinder side. I have the sucker almost apart, but have no clue as to how to remove the pedal push part to get at the valving inside. Is there one or more of you guys familiar with disassembly of this booster unit? Or even know where I can get a cutaway or sketch of something that can provide a clue for me? yes, I am occasionally clueless....needing help .... mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 17 09:22:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E9442E90 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:22:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.air-internet.com (cumulus.air-internet.com [12.110.32.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3C3DA42E66 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:22:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 19744 invoked from network); 17 Mar 2013 15:20:42 -0000 Received: from host-246.ennis.tx.speednet.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (69.54.100.246) by cumulus.air-internet.com with SMTP; 17 Mar 2013 15:20:41 -0000 Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 08:20:38 -0700 From: Larry Mayfield Organization: Mayfield Motorsport User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 To: rfraser@bluefrog.com References: <86157FD5690D4B1BA01810D7E99D2564@ronpc1> Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Off Topic - Girling Vacuum Brake Booster Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net No, it isn't the same. It is about 10 inches in diameter and comes apart like the Midland unit I have in my Tiger. And all the valving is buried inside it. Thanks, however for thinking of it! mayf ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed On 3/17/2013 5:36 AM, Ron Fraser wrote: > Mayf > If it is similar to the Tiger brake booster; there is a cut away in > the Shop Manual. > Section K, pg 20 > > Ron Fraser > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield > Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2013 12:26 PM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Off Topic - Girling Vacuum Brake Booster Question > > > I have a need to try an convert a Girling vacuum brake booster (from a > 1976 Jag XJ-S) to use pressure on the pedal side rather than vacuum on > the master cylinder side. I have the sucker almost apart, but have no > clue as to how to remove the pedal push part to get at the valving > inside. Is there one or more of you guys familiar with disassembly of > this booster unit? Or even know where I can get a cutaway or sketch of > something that can provide a clue for me? yes, I am occasionally > clueless....needing help .... > > mayf _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 17 14:20:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F6242B19 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 14:20:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qe0-f41.google.com (mail-qe0-f41.google.com [209.85.128.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1444290E for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 14:16:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qe0-f41.google.com with SMTP id 6so2967989qeb.14 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 13:15:04 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=x-received:from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language; bh=rvU70PvbGyVrE+QFXg23TKEu5xQF+Xcv3oncoj1wEeQ=; b=R4vLTJugsT6pTYrkEngTwFnx6hnsr6drRrY3JTjXXoWCBmjYNTKLolNAAjQnBrpoNo vSl7tdjnXCtAHxbkkx3TCsEwa73G+AxU3UxZWQdAxO6FLU4A78XtrUnXiGl9XtU/xjn5 xY2oKqmr50uhZjueugK9OeNuD0W2xcJwzvzs7H/CFAYIZs/m3r3qwevLOisjC19cgqGg 8hJburUFnINt9r3687qXbvMlQ/HUi0jqoy2/3Z6x0KUS4aOuGn0nZ/khbEM3WbIIMh2j IhEPdY9YvlF7rwKF2uLaVtPdpS4I9FfZqaETdMpNq+y2lcrEy2VOXbf+Ai858EUN2aPC +UqA== q6mr18567747qed.40.1363551304010; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 13:15:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OFFICEPC (75-32-205-182.lightspeed.ftwotx.sbcglobal.net. [75.32.205.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id dg4sm27485329qab.7.2013.03.17.13.15.02 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Mar 2013 13:15:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joe Brown" To: Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 15:15:19 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4jS+Wz1LQ4552iS4yRtk5k66NywQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Speedo Gears Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hey, Does anybody know of a source for the little 20-tooth nylon gears inside of the speedometer? I'm cleaning up my gauges and I found that the input shaft was binding up because these two little gears are split. I've been Googling around and haven't found anything. Thanks, Joe Brown Arlington, TX B382000217 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 17 15:40:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5662B429F7 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 15:40:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc2-s7.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s7.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C57C4254E for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 15:40:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY148-DS7 ([65.54.190.125]) by bay0-omc2-s7.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 17 Mar 2013 14:38:50 -0700 From: David or Gary To: johnp@ciseast.com Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 21:38:49 GMT FILETIME=[D0471790:01CE2357] Cc: john.procida@gmail.com, tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I went through all my parts and unfortunately I don't have a MK1 Tiger clutch arm/fork Ford number C3AZ-7515-A. I do have a couple of later arms which may help people locate a suitable length arm. I also checked on what clutch arms are shown in the Ford Factory Master Parts books. Here is what the Ford parts book shows: C3AZ-7515-A 10" (same as Rootes MK1 Tiger), C5OZ-7515-A (MKII Tiger 289) this number is NOT in the Ford Parts book (mis-print by Rootes?), for the 1965 289 (6 bolt bellhousing) Ford shows C5OZ-7515-B 9 1/4" up to date 2/15/68, then for 2/15/68 up they show C8OZ-7515-B 10 1/2". I have examples of the C5OZ-7515-B and C8OZ-7515-B (pictures below) They are almost identical except for how they mount on the pivot inside the bellhousing and the tip. The (C5) 1965 (6 bolt) mounts inside the bellhousing with the same round wire clip as the MK1 Tiger, the (C8) 1968 mounts with a flat spring clip. Now the actual measurements of these clutch fork arms don't match what Ford has listed in their parts book, I don't know how Ford measured them, overall length, from the fork end to the pivot, or? The C5OZ-B is shown as 9 1/4", the only actual measurement which matches is from the tip of the fork to the center of the round clutch rod dimple, but the C8OZ is shown as 10 1/2" and this arm is almost the same as the C5OZ, the whole arm on the C8OZ is 10 3/4". ---------------- Here is what Ford shows, and my measured actual lengths: - C3AZ-7515-A (MK1 Tiger) - Ford 10", actual overall, or tip of the fork to the center of the round clutch rod dimple? - C5OZ-7515-A (MKII) not in Ford book, Tiger owners report 9 1/4" (measured where?). - C5OZ-7515-B - Ford 9 1/4", actual 9 1/4" tip of the fork to the center of the round clutch rod dimple, and 10 1/2" overall. - C8OZ-7515-B - Ford 10 1/2", actual 9 1/4" tip of the fork to the center of the round clutch rod dimple, and 10 3/4" overall. --- I think the measurement should be from the tip of the fork to the center of the round clutch rod dimple, but the Ford C5OZ-7515-B and C8OZ-7515-B measurements don't match (Ford mistake?). ---------------- So, is the (MKI) C3AZ-7515-A Ford 10" actually 9 1/4" or 10 1/2" or ?, and close enough to the 6 bolt non-Tiger C5OZ-7515-B 9 1/4". Since the Ford parts book measurements don't match all actual measurements, I think the Ford 6 bolt 9 1/4" arm C5OZ-7515-B should also work on the MKI. Also is the Tiger Parts book 6 bolt MKII arm C5OZ-7515-A a misprint, and is it actually a C5OZ-7515-B? or is it something special? Boy is this confusing :) --------- For John all the arm measurements. L= 10 1/2, IN= 1 11/16, CC= 2 3/8, SE= 4 1/16, SD= 5 1/8, SP=? David Franchi Rear view 68 at top 65 bottom. http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405952400.jpg Front view 68 at top 65 bottom. http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405952401.jpg 65 arm on top of the 68 http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405952402.jpg 65 on top of the 68 close-up of the tip http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405952403.jpg Side View http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405952404.jpg _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 17 17:53:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E82242E83 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:53:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5A24257D for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:52:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta005.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r2HNpAXx019739; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 16:51:10 -0700 Received: by dm0219.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 401891ab) id dm0219.513ff370.be36c; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 16:50:43 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'David or Gary'" , Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:50:40 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4jV9hlormvghC5QheeB5lKAzQvFgAEhiwg engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-17_06:2013-03-15,2013-03-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1211240000 definitions=main-1303170263 Cc: john.procida@gmail.com, tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net David Excellent work! Maybe Gene still has his C3AZ clutch fork handy and can measure from the fork tip to the center of the clutch rod dimple. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David or Gary Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 5:39 PM To: johnp@ciseast.com Cc: john.procida@gmail.com; tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... I went through all my parts and unfortunately I don't have a MK1 Tiger clutch arm/fork Ford number C3AZ-7515-A. I do have a couple of later arms which may help people locate a suitable length arm. I also checked on what clutch arms are shown in the Ford Factory Master Parts books. Here is what the Ford parts book shows: C3AZ-7515-A 10" (same as Rootes MK1 Tiger), C5OZ-7515-A (MKII Tiger 289) this number is NOT in the Ford Parts book (mis-print by Rootes?), for the 1965 289 (6 bolt bellhousing) Ford shows C5OZ-7515-B 9 1/4" up to date 2/15/68, then for 2/15/68 up they show C8OZ-7515-B 10 1/2". I have examples of the C5OZ-7515-B and C8OZ-7515-B (pictures below) They are almost identical except for how they mount on the pivot inside the bellhousing and the tip. The (C5) 1965 (6 bolt) mounts inside the bellhousing with the same round wire clip as the MK1 Tiger, the (C8) 1968 mounts with a flat spring clip. Now the actual measurements of these clutch fork arms don't match what Ford has listed in their parts book, I don't know how Ford measured them, overall length, from the fork end to the pivot, or? The C5OZ-B is shown as 9 1/4", the only actual measurement which matches is from the tip of the fork to the center of the round clutch rod dimple, but the C8OZ is shown as 10 1/2" and this arm is almost the same as the C5OZ, the whole arm on the C8OZ is 10 3/4". ---------------- Here is what Ford shows, and my measured actual lengths: - C3AZ-7515-A (MK1 Tiger) - Ford 10", actual overall, or tip of the fork to the center of the round clutch rod dimple? - C5OZ-7515-A (MKII) not in Ford book, Tiger owners report 9 1/4" (measured where?). - C5OZ-7515-B - Ford 9 1/4", actual 9 1/4" tip of the fork to the center of the round clutch rod dimple, and 10 1/2" overall. - C8OZ-7515-B - Ford 10 1/2", actual 9 1/4" tip of the fork to the center of the round clutch rod dimple, and 10 3/4" overall. --- I think the measurement should be from the tip of the fork to the center of the round clutch rod dimple, but the Ford C5OZ-7515-B and C8OZ-7515-B measurements don't match (Ford mistake?). ---------------- So, is the (MKI) C3AZ-7515-A Ford 10" actually 9 1/4" or 10 1/2" or ?, and close enough to the 6 bolt non-Tiger C5OZ-7515-B 9 1/4". Since the Ford parts book measurements don't match all actual measurements, I think the Ford 6 bolt 9 1/4" arm C5OZ-7515-B should also work on the MKI. Also is the Tiger Parts book 6 bolt MKII arm C5OZ-7515-A a misprint, and is it actually a C5OZ-7515-B? or is it something special? Boy is this confusing :) --------- For John all the arm measurements. L= 10 1/2, IN= 1 11/16, CC= 2 3/8, SE= 4 1/16, SD= 5 1/8, SP=? David Franchi Rear view 68 at top 65 bottom. http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405952400.jpg Front view 68 at top 65 bottom. http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405952401.jpg 65 arm on top of the 68 http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405952402.jpg 65 on top of the 68 close-up of the tip http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405952403.jpg Side View http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405952404.jpg _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6177 - Release Date: 03/15/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 17 18:23:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 665F0429A4 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:23:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4168C4257D for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:20:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 8C0CD1C000072; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:19:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mle003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mle003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.126.208]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 53A66E00008A; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:19:09 -0400 (EDT) From: CoolVT@aol.com Full-name: CoolVT Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:19:09 -0400 (EDT) To: rfraser@bluefrog.com, wwwdg@webtv.net, johnp@ciseast.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363565949; bh=dRkK0CIn7T3NuHfGA4TWWm5lPKQLPLAdS0NF4ze/FUA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rXYk5HvrhLHdeVxYs+zL/O/hBys7sYLXf7V0nuyi2PAnZgL0jKrww6keU1bEtifok N5lFSsau+zbAcck0ANFHONHyjk2mAAw8jFhNT/9qWedkL9e+BCTl9K6fsBy6Bz4yQE uU4XN0g6U2/CnHGHWMtWwdeYEUAjghif+JMKdnfo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c51465d7d2d42 Cc: john.procida@gmail.com, tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Ron, I don't have a manual handy, but maybe you can explain the reason behind a single change in digits of a Ford part number. I know, for example, that one digit represents the application of the part. As I understand it, if a part is changed the number will change, but the new part might still work on the old application. In the list that Dave presented, one or two of the part #'s changed by one digit. Could we have something similar with the Tiger clutch fork. In other words, is a there a number that is close that will work on the Tiger. Mark L In a message dated 3/17/2013 7:51:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rfraser@bluefrog.com writes: David Excellent work! Maybe Gene still has his C3AZ clutch fork handy and can measure from the fork tip to the center of the clutch rod dimple. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David or Gary Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 5:39 PM To: johnp@ciseast.com Cc: john.procida@gmail.com; tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... I went through all my parts and unfortunately I don't have a MK1 Tiger clutch arm/fork Ford number C3AZ-7515-A. I do have a couple of later arms which may help people locate a suitable length arm. I also checked on what clutch arms are shown in the Ford Factory Master Parts books. Here is what the Ford parts book shows: C3AZ-7515-A 10" (same as Rootes MK1 Tiger), C5OZ-7515-A (MKII Tiger 289) this number is NOT in the Ford Parts book (mis-print by Rootes?), for the 1965 289 (6 bolt bellhousing) Ford shows C5OZ-7515-B 9 1/4" up to date 2/15/68, then for 2/15/68 up they show C8OZ-7515-B 10 1/2". I have examples of the C5OZ-7515-B and C8OZ-7515-B (pictures below) They are almost identical except for how they mount on the pivot inside the bellhousing and the tip. The (C5) 1965 (6 bolt) mounts inside the bellhousing with the same round wire clip as the MK1 Tiger, the (C8) 1968 mounts with a flat spring clip. Now the actual measurements of these clutch fork arms don't match what Ford has listed in their parts book, I don't know how Ford measured them, overall length, from the fork end to the pivot, or? The C5OZ-B is shown as 9 1/4", the only actual measurement which matches is from the tip of the fork to the center of the round clutch rod dimple, but the C8OZ is shown as 10 1/2" and this arm is almost the same as the C5OZ, the whole arm on the C8OZ is 10 3/4". ---------------- Here is what Ford shows, and my measured actual lengths: - C3AZ-7515-A (MK1 Tiger) - Ford 10", actual overall, or tip of the fork to the center of the round clutch rod dimple? - C5OZ-7515-A (MKII) not in Ford book, Tiger owners report 9 1/4" (measured where?). - C5OZ-7515-B - Ford 9 1/4", actual 9 1/4" tip of the fork to the center of the round clutch rod dimple, and 10 1/2" overall. - C8OZ-7515-B - Ford 10 1/2", actual 9 1/4" tip of the fork to the center of the round clutch rod dimple, and 10 3/4" overall. --- I think the measurement should be from the tip of the fork to the center of the round clutch rod dimple, but the Ford C5OZ-7515-B and C8OZ-7515-B measurements don't match (Ford mistake?). ---------------- So, is the (MKI) C3AZ-7515-A Ford 10" actually 9 1/4" or 10 1/2" or ?, and close enough to the 6 bolt non-Tiger C5OZ-7515-B 9 1/4". Since the Ford parts book measurements don't match all actual measurements, I think the Ford 6 bolt 9 1/4" arm C5OZ-7515-B should also work on the MKI. Also is the Tiger Parts book 6 bolt MKII arm C5OZ-7515-A a misprint, and is it actually a C5OZ-7515-B? or is it something special? Boy is this confusing :) --------- For John all the arm measurements. L= 10 1/2, IN= 1 11/16, CC= 2 3/8, SE= 4 1/16, SD= 5 1/8, SP=? David Franchi Rear view 68 at top 65 bottom. http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405952400.jpg Front view 68 at top 65 bottom. http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405952401.jpg 65 arm on top of the 68 http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405952402.jpg 65 on top of the 68 close-up of the tip http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405952403.jpg Side View http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405952404.jpg _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6177 - Release Date: 03/15/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 17 18:28:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99B0429F7 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:28:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc2-s12.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s12.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.87]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015AA40E49 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:28:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY148-DS4 ([65.54.190.125]) by bay0-omc2-s12.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:26:41 -0700 From: David or Gary To: rfraser@bluefrog.com Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:26:40 GMT FILETIME=[42DF8550:01CE236F] Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] original Tiger Starter Relay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I believe you are correct, the "A" was replaced by "B" possibly when they went to another supplier? But I have seen Ford part numbers with a double letter suffix. The Mustang Forums have 1965/66 cars coming from the factory with both relays/solenoids, C4AF-11450-A & 2701966/B6A-11450-A. A MKII might have a different relay, even though the Rootes parts book shows the same Rootes part number. There are links below. David - C4AF-11450-A solenoid. http://i.ebayimg.com/t/NOS-1964-Ford-Galaxie-Mustang-Fairlane-Falcon-Starter- Solenoid-C4AF-11450-A-/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/$%28KGrHqF,!i8FCzKwo7qyBQ3KRYY6ng~~6 0_57.JPG -- Auction link. http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-1964-Ford-Galaxie-Mustang-Fairlane-Falcon-Starter -Solenoid-C4AF-11450-A-/121048594369 -- 2701966 number B6A-11450-A http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Brown-Body-Bakelite-Starter-Sloenoid-Relay-B6A-11 450-A-ORIGINAL-FoMoCo-/111022533836?vxp=mtr&nma=true&si=SqKJkJf7kF133rM1IUnA2 Y1PJmg%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Auction link. http://i.ebayimg.com/t/NOS-Brown-Body-Bakelite-Starter-Sloenoid-Relay-B6A-114 50-A-ORIGINAL-FoMoCo-/00/s/MTE5NVgxNjAw/$%28KGrHqN,!oMFC2ZUoVclBQ9z+2osEw~~60 _57.JPG-- Interesting history on the solenoid. http://www.dearbornclassics.com/65-66-starter-solenoid-fomoco-block-letters.h tml ---------------------------------------------- Does anyone have a picture of the original Tiger starter relay? The Parts List indicates 2 parts were used. C4AF-11450-A-B I believe this indicates 2 parts. C4AF-11450-A and C4AF-11450-B I'm just researching these parts a little. Ford history indicates 4 possible relays were available at this time. I would just like to narrow the possibilities. Thanks Ron Fraser _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 17 18:59:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0549C42B87 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:59:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail3.everyone.net [216.200.145.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C74942540 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:59:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta004.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r2I0t0st021173; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:57:45 -0700 Received: by dm0225.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 40189223) id dm0225.513ff361.c0c6d; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 17:57:12 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: , , Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:56:27 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4jbjYFsbPwMDdiRz6hpSqAr/NXZQAAJbGA engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-17_06:2013-03-15,2013-03-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1211240000 definitions=main-1303170280 Cc: john.procida@gmail.com, tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mark Ford could change the a part number several ways. The year code could change - C3 = 1963, C5 = 1965, C8 = 1968. Generally a year code change means the part was updated somehow but I'm can't say for sure. Many Ford parts had the year code change for the 6 bolt engine change over. The 3rd digit is the division where the part was first designed - A = full size Ford, O = Fairlane, T = Truck, Z = Mustang This digit can easily change. The body of the number for any part will not change - 7515 = clutch fork all across Ford. The last letter in the number is the revision level - A,B,C to Z. The correct Ford Parts Manual will show if an older part has been updated to a newer part number. This is similar to the Rootes Parts List that show superseded part numbers. I believe David Franchi has that kind of Manual and it is not showing a direct replacement part for the Tiger Clutch fork. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: CoolVT@aol.com [mailto:CoolVT@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 8:19 PM To: rfraser@bluefrog.com; wwwdg@webtv.net; johnp@ciseast.com Cc: john.procida@gmail.com; tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... Ron, I don't have a manual handy, but maybe you can explain the reason behind a single change in digits of a Ford part number. I know, for example, that one digit represents the application of the part. As I understand it, if a part is changed the number will change, but the new part might still work on the old application. In the list that Dave presented, one or two of the part #'s changed by one digit. Could we have something similar with the Tiger clutch fork. In other words, is a there a number that is close that will work on the Tiger. Mark L _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 17 21:21:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26312429F7 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 21:21:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f52.google.com (mail-pb0-f52.google.com [209.85.160.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DAD542544 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 21:21:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f52.google.com with SMTP id ma3so6009987pbc.25 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:19:34 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date :message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=8ajGQaYpYRYESu0ILJdkwU2gsyARyWaspW0/GzmMv84=; b=rzO2RVS3lgrUXiXTuFcmJZYa8/sg/gaJPE88SiVnf5+oYLl2uRJE8HQQ6C7m8my9T7 5G2EQD6RzXvkdlnvL8BUzfodQ10PIfTnMRI4hTrS9sSzwGjnkjPgQhSzemhtxRqHSoD0 r0x88/VirTsoRy5LJJX5vEga1e+VRNLItK7sC4sthySPwesYRHw/CIGdwYzd2CyZxhOx nrkZTan0blkCTzpdfNqY1u88T9rqZuUhPCecU+pKoFRZychWhTQ9d/FGD0KNxLLn6rU/ 3C9xTKiIEJyejAYJYTy924YXybBHyVJP8rlnYuubZ7ne9cojMJvqOeQdNJE6UvduYkKq T+bQ== ys6mr8012122pab.77.1363576774170; Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.7] ([76.91.103.207]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id gn2sm18503989pbb.22.2013.03.17.20.19.32 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:19:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay Laifman Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 20:19:29 -0700 To: Tiger's Den Subject: [Tigers] Rich Man's Cobra Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I was thinking, with today's prices for Tigers, haven't they actually now become the rich man's Cobra! :-) Of course, the Cobra is the VERY rich man's Cobra. But, I think the Tiger can no longer be the poor man's Cobra (not that it ever was). Rebuilt the servo (well, just the big plunger part) and bled the Tiger's clutch today. Felt good. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 05:35:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8724B40EB0 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 05:35:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm4-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm4-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.253]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D074C40EA7 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 05:35:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.53] by nm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2013 11:33:47 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.162] by tm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2013 11:33:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1018.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2013 11:33:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 82791 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Mar 2013 11:33:47 -0000 s=s1024; t=1363606427; bh=x55ydq6ounceJGX5qt70aMmKQj83X9dnXVCrDQg9DUc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3vPcCw3HkTY+9ALC9o0ORtCF2EKhuH0q7AOqGJTz9tRwZ853ltw1i2EQLyFByheDASirwO8LUl25sBLyGNdHAXWcD3Uv9LMbVmiZJYt65rx7Kx3na2+Trk3pk5tM/Xxo8Tw9Gu+5DL6VaD4CeYBj5zCdEgAN6Y3Gt7aBCQspM3U= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WCzoYb0N6IQfd1iMJJJKUjBA8Ew+sTN7hmNp8VbdW2b+etaz6XY45PrODfjKhs3unud97w/3c+jfz/zTZOpeDa1LYVRSUzUzEtLSx9DyUy3MyWSt3zqcZooQpkidYkq4ua4cKKuXYTXDnjNkYq+ee6/9TK6LVZqLvdxHc5nB9r8=; iMGWmZulhmKfjBIgimswJ8K8BNwJeRivLCW2LgM7c1KAf19Oucsd9Bp.GxUj KzBS5AMz5e9QDoRO8XzjECN2rdOdbKb6i76kZhUhVryoqUezzz89aKOWe7Kz iE1Pujpvsr_ar9zokno0G7ESm.RRXomIQc9wvvjNXPM1_tF4.g5r5MNsMm83 PpckB97bpjH5qM0JGbopizvFi9FN5tpKM1Imd9POtlmUeU1Nk4We83z4xIs3 LZvdipygXMFezDfTu1J9TTFHhEFRp33cR.oE7ycvL_AgV1eHVyVf42LaskE7 I3Y8l_fO8AkR8dxfNrhteCJgV7m.wPyj0FH_5qAF8JMN4DTsKE9bh_e6UGwT OfZQvJcy_v5ZVIJTLwsl9dEguUvokYAHoXAk7F63iTjrrXBo594JcVquEoKF OLJVZLXy89lMAMqPHIJXPCaZ.GQ6F.4pB7u35vblnhwECmy7qo2t_yUsJvA- - Received: from [75.252.10.143] by web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 04:33:47 PDT MTk2NiBNSyAxQSBUaWdlcg0KwqANCkl0IGFwcGVhcnMgc2luY2UgSSBoYWQgdG8gY2hhbmdlIG91dCB0aGUgYmVsbCBob3VzaW5nIG9uIGEgMTk2NSAyODkgSFAgbW90b3IsIGl0IGhhZCBhIGJpZCBob2xlIGluIHRoZSBib3R0b20sIHRoYXQgdGhlcmUgbXVzdCBiZSBhIGRpZmZlcmVudCBjbHV0Y2ggc2xhdmUgY3lsaW5kZXIgYnJhY2tldCBmb3IgdGhlIG5ldyA2IGJvbHQgYmVsbCBob3VzaW5nIEM1QUUtNjAxNUUgYXMgdGhlIDIgYm9sdCBob2xlcyBubyBsb25nZXIgbGluZSB1cC4NCsKgDQpJIGJlbGlldmUBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 04:33:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Joel Martin To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Clutch Slave Cylinder Bracket Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net 1966 MK 1A Tiger It appears since I had to change out the bell housing on a 1965 289 HP motor, it had a bid hole in the bottom, that there must be a different clutch slave cylinder bracket for the new 6 bolt bell housing C5AE-6015E as the 2 bolt holes no longer line up. I believe the old bell housing was a C5AA-6394-B. Was there a different clutch slave cylinder bracket for the C5AE-6015E? If so, does anyone know the part number and\or have one they would part with or are they still available new? Many steps forward, many steps backwards. Thanks Joel Martin _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 07:56:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB9D424A6 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:56:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF54E40E50 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:56:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta005.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r2IDqniI024000; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 06:54:59 -0700 Received: by dm0224.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4348622d) id dm0224.513ff363.c4855; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 06:53:40 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.150.155]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:53:39 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Joel Martin'" , Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:53:29 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4jzJH+IB1oN6DUSnKQv2YtXAoEAwAEQk4g engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-18_01:2013-03-18,2013-03-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1211240000 definitions=main-1303180093 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Clutch Slave Cylinder Bracket Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Joel Yes, there is a difference between the 5 bolt engine slave bracket and the 6 bolt engine slave bracket. The part numbers are Rootes numbers - not a Ford part. CAT sometimes carries this part, possibly Tom Hall or Paul Reisentz, maybe Dale A. http://www.tigerengineering.net/ http://www.reisentzrestorations.com/ http://www.dalesresto.com/ If all else fails you could make a bracket to fit your situation. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Martin Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:34 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Clutch Slave Cylinder Bracket Question 1966 MK 1A Tiger It appears since I had to change out the bell housing on a 1965 289 HP motor, it had a bid hole in the bottom, that there must be a different clutch slave cylinder bracket for the new 6 bolt bell housing C5AE-6015E as the 2 bolt holes no longer line up. I believe the old bell housing was a C5AA-6394-B. Was there a different clutch slave cylinder bracket for the C5AE-6015E? If so, does anyone know the part number and\or have one they would part with or are they still available new? Many steps forward, many steps backwards. Thanks Joel Martin _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 07:58:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD38840E92 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:58:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com [208.47.184.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A573140E50 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:58:20 -0600 (MDT) c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1363615010; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=vY0FTQxhK+XJ4uO/GEOc1LuKSdM=; b=T5BC0UCYr1PG3s+72Jzuir02Lmer0NrQY4tQF6uMdUDyuw7yKJur3zmN57ssyWix sWk1rNMDSvpYD3dhbxm6Gy4p+o9lPUqTJEtwrNDMVVWeGQnmGL6b0NYO/9xjw7aR; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=VHR75LDRdwNiv49K1R9BLQ==:17 a=F7-eZJ1hTQ4A:10 a=1poGYrevpj8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=MAii4F-TpR0A:10 a=8A7brI4kjU8C6ETGAX3PRdgeao0=:19 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=ty573FIKiLGtJgI8haAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=GVBqwoR-BowSg1wV:21 a=CLGBTGvNxFL20Q0I:21 a=VHR75LDRdwNiv49K1R9BLQ==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=wseay@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [71.48.131.223] ([71.48.131.223:22348] helo=xpseay) by mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPA id 40/F0-05636-12D17415; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:56:50 -0400 From: "Will Seay" To: "'Joel Martin'" , References: <1363606427.78798.YahooMailClassic@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 09:56:47 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4jzJH+pc8I+hXLSbuDIk+E3jLOsAAE3xgg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Clutch Slave Cylinder Bracket Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Joel, You may be in luck. There's a MKII (6-bolt) slave cylinder bracket on ebay right now. Check it out: http://www.ebay.com/itm/clutch-slave-cylinder-bracket-for-Ford-6-bolt-289-block- Sunbeam-Tiger-/190813263829?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c6d 5b57d5&vxp=mtr Will Seay 382001570 wseay@embarqmail.com -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Martin Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:34 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Clutch Slave Cylinder Bracket Question 1966 MK 1A Tiger It appears since I had to change out the bell housing on a 1965 289 HP motor, it had a bid hole in the bottom, that there must be a different clutch slave cylinder bracket for the new 6 bolt bell housing C5AE-6015E as the 2 bolt holes no longer line up. I believe the old bell housing was a C5AA-6394-B. Was there a different clutch slave cylinder bracket for the C5AE-6015E? If so, does anyone know the part number and\or have one they would part with or are they still available new? Many steps forward, many steps backwards. Thanks Joel Martin _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 08:09:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2375E424B6 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 08:09:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9FEA40042 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 08:08:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B6539380002CD; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:07:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mle003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mle003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.126.208]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 74F84E00008D; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:07:25 -0400 (EDT) From: CoolVT@aol.com Full-name: CoolVT Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:07:25 -0400 (EDT) To: wseay@embarqmail.com, jmartiniii@yahoo.com, tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363615645; bh=Q0DPvilfhHU3oWoB1j4L/hNdZrg089j2Tcso+/g+EfM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=I1ScleKXtiZ7jw9B8jpdRJwr99zbLqU3ipRGpoUF3e8pI9S05WXKnyzv/w3fcMxCG yZ/lPrRqttC8rugFTIkK9UxqpaGh6zTaS3t8HLixrMhi+iOmHxwncuX/WJnzciJ9+J 0sxh7AJvkxUfqr2rTnZJQWgco8fOQgu2wK1XdvTE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c51471f9d7379 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Clutch Slave Cylinder Bracket Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Some of these brackets have been known to bend over time. The metal on this one is about 1/3 the thickness of some of the other after market brackets. This does have an unusual brace arrangement and maybe that would prevent bending? If I was buying, I would be asking someone who has used this model for their experience. The usual sources do have the heavy, unbendable model. Mark Lafayette In a message dated 3/18/2013 9:56:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wseay@embarqmail.com writes: Joel, You may be in luck. There's a MKII (6-bolt) slave cylinder bracket on ebay right now. Check it out: http://www.ebay.com/itm/clutch-slave-cylinder-bracket-for-Ford-6-bolt-289-bl ock- Sunbeam-Tiger-/190813263829?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item 2c6d 5b57d5&vxp=mtr Will Seay 382001570 wseay@embarqmail.com -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Martin Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:34 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Clutch Slave Cylinder Bracket Question 1966 MK 1A Tiger It appears since I had to change out the bell housing on a 1965 289 HP motor, it had a bid hole in the bottom, that there must be a different clutch slave cylinder bracket for the new 6 bolt bell housing C5AE-6015E as the 2 bolt holes no longer line up. I believe the old bell housing was a C5AA-6394-B. Was there a different clutch slave cylinder bracket for the C5AE-6015E? If so, does anyone know the part number and\or have one they would part with or are they still available new? Many steps forward, many steps backwards. Thanks Joel Martin _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 08:21:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49C442278 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 08:21:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.air-internet.com (cumulus.air-internet.com [12.110.32.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 12CE940551 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 08:21:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 25441 invoked from network); 18 Mar 2013 14:19:43 -0000 Received: from host-246.ennis.tx.speednet.com (HELO ?127.0.0.1?) (69.54.100.246) by cumulus.air-internet.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2013 14:19:43 -0000 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 07:19:41 -0700 From: Larry Mayfield Organization: Mayfield Motorsport User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 To: tigers@autox.team.net References: <1363606427.78798.YahooMailClassic@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Clutch Slave Cylinder Bracket Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net If this was a change from a 5 bolt to a 6 bolt bell housing, ie from a 260 5 bolt to a 289 6 bolt then there is more than just the difference there. The bell housings are physically larger on the 6 bolt. The starter will also not be in the correct location in that case. If it is a 5 bolt 289 then everything will fit fine. I have one of those also. Used for quite a while and it produced bags of HP. Note that the 6 bolt pattern is good for everything from the first 6 bolt use to the last 302 made. The recent thread regards throw out arms are affected by the bell housing changes as well. A 5 bolt bell housing throw out arm may not be the same as the 5 bolt 260 bell housing although I did use mine that way for a lot of years. By the way, not exactly sure what you mean by a big hole in the bottom of the bell housing: round, square or? I once had a 5 bolt cast steel bell housing and the entire bottom of it came off by removing 4 large bolts to permit access to the clutch inside. Is this a hole like that? I have one of the CAT 6 bolt slave cylinder brackets I purchased years ago and never used..because it is made of fairly thin material. That clutch slave needs to be held on by a non flexy bracket. mayf ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed On 3/18/2013 4:33 AM, Joel Martin wrote: > 1966 MK 1A Tiger > > It appears since I had to change out the bell housing on a 1965 289 HP motor, > it had a bid hole in the bottom, that there must be a different clutch slave > cylinder bracket for the new 6 bolt bell housing C5AE-6015E as the 2 bolt > holes no longer line up. > > I believe the old bell housing was a C5AA-6394-B. > > Was there a different clutch slave cylinder bracket for the C5AE-6015E? If > so, does anyone know the part number and\or have one they would part with or > are they still available new? > > Many steps forward, many steps backwards. > > Thanks > Joel Martin > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/drmayf@mayfco.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 08:52:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D81D40E50 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 08:52:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm26-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.236.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57384424A9 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 08:48:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.199] by nm26.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2013 14:47:00 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.56] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2013 14:46:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp109.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Mar 2013 14:46:56 -0000 s=s1024; t=1363618016; bh=jJpw6d7oJZFg5eAXfFRQyFRDlfT5mrjXHP8M4oTjHIM=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:User-Agent:Date:Subject:From:To:Message-ID:Thread-Topic:In-Reply-To:Mime-version:Content-type; b=bewjLR2uP/BsJwZkLLT+oVqsbu1NyssDx/VVGRa2ZvcCMNpiG/kX4jyAZRq1kXyC0Rwo3uRQEYtuF0l0AjblKjVaVdiIjxSi/jjK0S05ix7BH5YIAaTwMXrNMD76x/OibJnkQCuXMNObLPf7nuZ/ndf4bi6TPNFbuWWYM+XKSus= 2ssvhaAezks.W_AyBZedG6KjJYAzlrsU4tAKPK5OktFyUdf9pqDa2WKS0YqZ ObUNA4wKjiAebwu8cYZxAIApHf3kpxhS9nYpnWZRMxL6_aceAbEMhXBXzMSg EnDWY5lT0uKJlBx9_fqoo4coVw7Xmgn9sC8VCDFTatv5EK7mDOjJXHHp2qpi aA6oBCyI6e9Pd3QWXXTDR8WuiH92yMfHrdgXUAkSSwWLwaw_ssDZx13acQDK LSZKPxdJ077s7sDsv9v0o.iLW.UzgBqcBTAvZVw3MntLWBJ5lAA.irIGo08p FIMJcT67HII2p9zfBbX9YHJkbCL9Mm2l9hCO7kBuoSuuwCHDPywQtJlcQ5Q4 tyDpUdYYIZ7xwWJHv_oPNkqLSQDpN6qim2j0XrjGwxHYDwrR_0oFyS_W_aOm 9x0YBTJ8rdtuSHe8BQTsE0YqK9BP1Fxy56gkbb3wW0HpIQEsDmL4FIHsuhtV c.BVTVZRlkU84gYeF2fIpelBbFP6BfSaougOZONk5At3CmedOi7I9QyaLGo1 haFI1fFV_zY8M3zziYQvkQDpYcNZ3pyPn69pPvhd_r60EVRTw.ey8_f9GQBI ulxGmQLkCIFEWs7Qn Received: from [10.0.1.8] (fast427@99.11.6.236 with login) by smtp109.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Mar 2013 07:46:55 -0700 PDT User-Agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.2.130206 Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:46:30 -0400 From: Don Antilla To: , , , Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Tiger Clutch Slave Cylinder Bracket Question Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Clutch Slave Cylinder Bracket Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tiger guys: I own a Series 200 Griffith with a 6 bolt 289 (actually, it is a 347 stroker because I did not have enough power in my 1900 pound car). I have a C5AA-6384-B bellhousing and I needed a well designed slave cylinder bracket since the original was missing. I bought a high quality adapter from Sunbeam Specialties along with the slave cylinder. Please see my attached photos. This worked fine on my Griffith so it should work for the Tiger. If you need any more info or photos please let me know. PS: I have a Tiger GT residing in my basement; it is the first of fifteen produced. (As you will see in the photo, it is not restored.) Regards, Don Antilla On 3/18/13 10:07 AM, "CoolVT@aol.com" wrote: >Some of these brackets have been known to bend over time. The metal on >this one is about 1/3 the thickness of some of the other after market >brackets. This does have an unusual brace arrangement and maybe that >would prevent >bending? If I was buying, I would be asking someone who has used this >model for their experience. >The usual sources do have the heavy, unbendable model. >Mark Lafayette > > >In a message dated 3/18/2013 9:56:55 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >wseay@embarqmail.com writes: > >Joel, > >You may be in luck. There's a MKII (6-bolt) slave cylinder bracket on >ebay >right now. Check it out: > >http://www.ebay.com/itm/clutch-slave-cylinder-bracket-for-Ford-6-bolt-289- >bl >ock- >Sunbeam-Tiger-/190813263829?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=it >em >2c6d >5b57d5&vxp=mtr > > >Will Seay 382001570 >wseay@embarqmail.com > >-----Original Message----- >From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net >[mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] >On >Behalf Of Joel Martin >Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:34 AM >To: tigers@autox.team.net >Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Clutch Slave Cylinder Bracket Question > >1966 MK 1A Tiger > >It appears since I had to change out the bell housing on a 1965 289 HP >motor, it >had a bid hole in the bottom, that there must be a different clutch slave >cylinder bracket for the new 6 bolt bell housing C5AE-6015E as the 2 >bolt >holes >no longer line up. > >I believe the old bell housing was a C5AA-6394-B. > >Was there a different clutch slave cylinder bracket for the C5AE-6015E? >If so, >does anyone know the part number and\or have one they would part with or >are >they still available new? > >Many steps forward, many steps backwards. > >Thanks >Joel Martin >_______________________________________________ > >tigers@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com >_______________________________________________ > >tigers@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/fast427@sbcglobal.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of C5AA-6384-B-bellhousing.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Bracket slave cyl low.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Clutch Slave cyl 64067506.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of DSC_0641.jpg] _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 10:23:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA7544249F for ; 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Jim McLaughlin B382000175 -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave@munroe.ca Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 4:22 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Test _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimmc13@hughes.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 15:34:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BC344287E for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from ch1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (ch1ehsobe005.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.181.185]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3366403E2 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:34:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail15-ch1-R.bigfish.com (10.43.68.235) by CH1EHSOBE017.bigfish.com (10.43.70.67) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:32:54 +0000 Received: from mail15-ch1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail15-ch1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA3A2202DE; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:32:54 +0000 (UTC) H:edgetransport.garmin.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: fail (mail15-ch1: domain of dynastream.com does not designate 204.77.163.11 as permitted sender) client-ip=204.77.163.11; envelope-from=Theo.Smit@dynastream.com; helo=edgetransport.garmin.com ;t.garmin.com ; Received: from mail15-ch1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail15-ch1 (MessageSwitch) id 1363642352902351_10300; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:32:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CH1EHSMHS003.bigfish.com (snatpool1.int.messaging.microsoft.com [10.43.68.240]) by mail15-ch1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E4B16008B; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:32:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edgetransport.garmin.com (204.77.163.11) by CH1EHSMHS003.bigfish.com (10.43.70.3) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:32:32 +0000 Received: from OLAWPA-EXHT04.ad.garmin.com (10.5.32.182) by edgetransport.garmin.com (192.168.18.223) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.342.3; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:33:09 -0500 Received: from OLAWPA-EXMB05.ad.garmin.com ([169.254.6.100]) by OLAWPA-EXHT04.ad.garmin.com ([10.5.32.182]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:32:30 -0500 From: "Smit, Theo" To: jimmc13 , "dave@munroe.ca" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Test Thread-Index: AQHOJB61mMAyhLlgF0SAXFxdZPM8n5isSk+A//+tiiA= Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:32:29 +0000 References: <1772f.264a46d1.3e78799d@aol.com> <5147858b.83bf320a.4c1f.ffffc6bc@mx.google.com> <63FCD86F000C46A2988FC13C38FBA547@RedBudAdminPC> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.50.8.1] Subject: Re: [Tigers] Test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Dunno about that... I'm guessing Dave sent some text in his message. Theo > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers- > bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jimmc13 > Sent: March 18, 2013 3:27 PM > To: dave@munroe.ca; tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Test > > Dave, > Working fine... > Jim McLaughlin > B382000175 > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers- > bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of dave@munroe.ca > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 4:22 PM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Test > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimmc13@hughes.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/theo.smit@dynastream.com > > ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. 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Thank you. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 16:31:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75A5424E4 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:31:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37612424DE for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:29:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97F2EA1014 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:29:52 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:29:52 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" References: <1772f.264a46d1.3e78799d@aol.com> <5147858b.83bf320a.4c1f.ffffc6bc@mx.google.com> <63FCD86F000C46A2988FC13C38FBA547@RedBudAdminPC> <7495733F0DF7644CBABA4EA216EF4E15012D6536@OLAWPA-EXMB05.ad.garmin.com> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Smit, Theo wrote: > Dunno about that... I'm guessing Dave sent some text in his message. > > A fair number of folks send out bogus HTML formatting in their messages, and the HTML to text filter gets confused and bails out. I was going to say this isn't a problem on the forums [ link below ] but there isn't a Tiger specific forum. Should there be? Or maybe just Sunbeam? mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 17:06:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354F14287C for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 17:06:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qe0-f53.google.com (mail-qe0-f53.google.com [209.85.128.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CA8B40E20 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 17:06:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qe0-f53.google.com with SMTP id cz11so3768066qeb.12 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:04:59 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority :x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=y9bE34VCgS29axWlCpJxX7Uc9itNAsZJ23dUxrX6hCs=; b=b1FbvikCoi1tJ8wSUQCgZf/m6C1SpvgCBn0tLww7GpnI4B3xxo6cGNJO/a1txgbD5U mFcpqVRYWNS2cnwHTJ8G7FXBa0cn4Ap5Sgd/8gQ2LRlg/hLxfDEEM3VGEn2I58tNG0fd tubh1KtxgcaFldjXCJ5khQS9Q+aFO4Ye5ENRc= d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority :x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole:x-gm-message-state; bh=y9bE34VCgS29axWlCpJxX7Uc9itNAsZJ23dUxrX6hCs=; b=fZdufOEgMMvGze45F8nSSYT7mx4AZoSo/k3Eb6SBcBTsXo4ob4jMRZSwxtisbesbsX aWXHG6iAoAycWwBrwRYs7wzEByKS707bycni+kJtbX8gXpvfa+RDCqcmPkHV0+EDgr6B T+yIkAvxy0wXhOQc/6nC9607QsllbVm2hoMiyiY9AJ9Oxb/X+JXN4+UPIr/isibD+F1h zWpDn0cJ7dK0jBrpRfFv77xH2ZVfRJfFg5OEEZ0UrNc6fA1A5gpsuLZ1cyIfGNM5lIJc 9L4Q1030RuHUitVjX/ydm7yzPxroJPmUbEoNzjtWXUDN1RIDgK843rtGXq9FyaYw/0BF h5QA== co20mr22763930qab.94.1363647899372; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:04:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DavePC (DRMONS0540W-156034170254.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.ns.bellaliant.net. [156.34.170.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id az3sm35710080qeb.7.2013.03.18.16.04.58 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:04:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dave Munroe" To: "Mark J Bradakis" , References: <1772f.264a46d1.3e78799d@aol.com><5147858b.83bf320a.4c1f.ffffc6bc@mx.google.com><63FCD86F000C46A2988FC13C38FBA547@RedBudAdminPC><7495733F0DF7644CBABA4EA216EF4E15012D6536@OLAWPA-EXMB05.ad.garmin.com> <51479560.80201@bradakis.com> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 20:04:57 -0300 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mark et al: This problem in my case may be unit specific: I send nearly all my List messages and replies via my desktop PC which makes checking and setting text easy. But the message that seems to have the "blank text" problem was sent from my BlackBerry. This problem appeared today when I "replied-to-all" to a List posting from Don Antilla to which he replied in full. (????) So he got the message. Shortly after I received a message from Larry Mayfield saying all he got was a List email with no text in the body. I am using a new BlackBerry X10 with which I am still becoming familiar. It is quite possible the email is programmed to send out HTML. I don't know because I can find no place in the thing to set the format. This message is being sent from my PC. If everyone gets it, I will know its BlackBerry specific, and can call RIM tomorrow (it 8:00 pm here in Nova Scotia and the call centre is closed for the day) and see what the problem might be. Thanks for your patience everyone, and to all who replied thanks again. I know this is a PITA for everyone. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" To: Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Test Smit, Theo wrote: Dunno about that... I'm guessing Dave sent some text in his message. A fair number of folks send out bogus HTML formatting in their messages, and the HTML to text filter gets confused and bails out. I was going to say this isn't a problem on the forums [ link below ] but there isn't a Tiger specific forum. Should there be? Or maybe just Sunbeam? mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 22:32:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D964429A4 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 22:32:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo102.cox.net (eastrmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.214]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E54E403FA for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 22:31:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo110 ([68.230.241.223]) by eastrmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20130319042925.KOOS28112.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo110> for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:29:25 -0400 Received: from [10.245.7.17] ([174.254.161.175]) by eastrmimpo110 with cox id DGVQ1l0023nMo8E01GVQzQ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:29:25 -0400 a=SZ0RW9cq8PD6JWdhLOlOMA==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=Ya8bB7SKRU0A:10 a=nGpxqOXMUsiOJaztV_sA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SZ0RW9cq8PD6JWdhLOlOMA==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=twojohnsons@cox.net From: Alvin Johnson Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 00:29:24 -0400 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Off topic-tire test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net How exactly does that tire wear test using a penny work? Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 22:44:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4891B4288E for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 22:44:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25BF40521 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 22:44:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF4A6A018D for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 22:45:02 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 22:45:01 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" References: <3C9E878E-5532-4EE0-8BC1-598FE0D285DE@cox.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Off topic-tire test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Alvin Johnson wrote: > How exactly does that tire wear test using a penny work? > > You take a Lincoln head penny and stick him head first into the tread, see how far it goes in. Turns out the distance between the edge of the coin and the top of his hair is real close to the minimum tread depth recommended, so if any of his hair is below the surface of the tire the tread is still okay. mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 22:50:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D2F42458 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 22:50:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 152A44226D for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 22:50:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 994E2A018D for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 22:50:37 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 22:50:36 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" References: <3C9E878E-5532-4EE0-8BC1-598FE0D285DE@cox.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Off topic-tire test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I seem to recall that tirerack.com has some pictures of this method. mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 18 22:50:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B862F42855 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 22:50:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qe0-f46.google.com (mail-qe0-f46.google.com [209.85.128.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF5574288A for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 22:50:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qe0-f46.google.com with SMTP id a11so36999qen.33 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:48:37 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=JIMIXVp0nCUWwN/VTOZAVfuRRsy9rRSoKfq8EGoyud0=; b=ohK0e7m00V5qLWI2AMgQPZKzMPOaftCfO3dpNZsHnR3OMV7bnBDerRjEcOkhKFpyIp Li70iUh2frULWCE2XkM86X3eUc2wjWxKYO5uBcLSdZnplt4lsPVIapiFYwrjTI7f8mXN QM3dIF6g0JIfiSxvaKPuB4HSns+IcmCOKLzhuqIlG+pyJ2U/yaoN+GoIQMqC3tNji91k UUqQ7Y0Ct4N/IxNJ1ixQuY1d0MdWacVvvqhRWJQIxJQjHSmRVgGWdPH1ZpSQjbQUaajG /0GUtjcPLCC8+U9glJ08oEuKtw4F+izNtQ9ic8rd6/819+EBBeKJXgOS0FlU8PkOLNa9 bGGQ== cp6mr949774qab.59.1363668517515; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:48:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.119.3 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:48:37 -0700 (PDT) References: <1772f.264a46d1.3e78799d@aol.com> <51473e70.83bf320a.4c1f.69ad@mx.google.com> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 21:48:37 -0700 From: Cliff Alexander To: dave@munroe.ca Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Clutch Slave Cylinder Bracket Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I bought one from Sunbeam Specialties a couple of years ago and it works great. They still have it in there catalog. On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 9:18 AM, wrote: > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mk1a67@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 19 07:55:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188884290E for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:55:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.156]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278704257F for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 07:55:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.143] by nm25.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2013 13:53:39 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.206] by tm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2013 13:53:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Mar 2013 13:53:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 41412 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Mar 2013 13:53:39 -0000 s=s1024; t=1363701218; bh=E924OxGstBwY3FigpYv6ncepa/MlXvnj0vaK24Ah2q8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DEUAf826aOoQmts5K5SaiPdseiirnJfVY4Y6uLq4PombcL4AT/Hnxau/yRJFUDSX5KEP0IWhCBM5NiDrxiqlU3nwEhfV3jFvRbNcQN0U/NDQkYvnC2kIZw/4ddywgZ7V6ZsTkO73rBvyW4ZAzWGZbwkJUTCnlEv8rX2hSxSC0Fw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=oKcy0ZvMGtUg7un8M7Of4J9Q8biI2evyfIl/HQnFA54fafGBykbhzsOqqNVAnplYHiV6I1UvTklH16GBv00ruzWkN1QNIvhTCvL5CC81vxDXof8BYN0mSWdb0HxOFu+3/Vf/yG3F0K/pQwdTy7mI/0lZFP34xndtVF3/WRKsn/4=; nzr93RH4NmQbl9ROtCvgrZFNAudEQcJmcIb_J0A4_q_8DzWKoRNJc6veE6u6 tK.4FTzF1oDfAQWSqLduo8fItMyMj1.eCngtvA8xMDTp2g6EAR3PHOtS.Qab 2R5OeNYiP_WbQ2AJMTyVnTyL4u.9OG4e7IjnoALHWpulL6T646Veg81spujn FkqQYR1kIiiCPxpkur9dEpNxDAsI1Bu.KWoYln40GRbirtLygHqikfzDj.xM 74saf.zbGq5042iW7TFODMBgpT6auf33DlzLsgnh3vOvKWPSR0SMRQnCsIsl GY93R7sX6VAjZMB1IzEmWmIrxpUJrdXlrwhFvt6134fLor62BKRi7aSIzXT2 uE05baWX2JhhCejO0CgwHTFG0bqB4IwDwIgGzUybvAgsJifrgZcreE8X89_V z1g77mF_fC45T0QGeYW6m_G85ZMGDKkq1jigLEXEwaUmRpf8Mi.HipbGTtM9 17NPv_XgNtOb4Kzsj Received: from [72.29.162.82] by web141102.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 06:53:38 PDT SSdtIGdvaW5nIHRvIGJlIHZpc2l0aW5nIEZvdW50YWluIEhpbGxzIG5lYXIgUGhvZW5peCwgQVogZHVyaW5nIHRoZSBuZXh0IGZldyBkYXlzLiBJdCB3b3VsZCBoZWxwIHRvIGJlIGFibGUgdG8gc2VlIG9uZSBvciBtb3JlIE1rMS8xQSBUaWdlcnMgd2hpbGUgdGhlcmUgdG8gY29uZmlybSBzb21lIGJvZHkgYW5kIHRyaW0gZGV0YWlscyBvbiBteSBjYXIuIElmIHlvdSBhcmUgY2xvc2UgYnkgYW5kIGNvdWxkIGRldm90ZSBhIGxpdHRsZSB0aW1lIHRvIG1lZXQsIHBsZWFzZSBjb250YWN0IG1lIG9mZi1saXN0LgoBMAEBAQE- References: <521191321.219598.1362519102708.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <753557009.221324.1362521177485.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 06:53:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Packer To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Phoenix Area Cars? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I'm going to be visiting Fountain Hills near Phoenix, AZ during the next few days. It would help to be able to see one or more Mk1/1A Tigers while there to confirm some body and trim details on my car. If you are close by and could devote a little time to meet, please contact me off-list. Thanks Terry Packer 9470018 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 19 09:33:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4343442884 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:33:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f172.google.com (mail-vc0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1398440409 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 09:33:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id hr11so480530vcb.31 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:31:39 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority :x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=MW0ntpEBuHklRh7J92ErNFAf8iNVHUfBjoH83oL9LeU=; b=df8umBnIczwdg8qSbGdu/PgtJ29VGzMJBGjGl8cmC3KDsZzy8KctLC9uLnngqAY2rB wzvjdbpFISmDB1cgGnGVfmFcKIwstjU7GeOuoHi09m0gu0F3htBH8o3htGUJ+Q0gbYZ+ sRRtvrFgv0bXHDsSvLCCbB6Dp8hxmHNswYuhs= d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-priority :x-msmail-priority:x-mailer:x-mimeole:x-gm-message-state; bh=MW0ntpEBuHklRh7J92ErNFAf8iNVHUfBjoH83oL9LeU=; b=Mb5vk44nsbAJSKwTdr52eMwOotL5VVAMoI/juXWUukncT/r+1T+kpJ55dglHM7QKH7 IiJWQLmw+roDE6jXJDY9JxKmEYrUJ6wASExd+JMCYZssWdxXJamWlHBb+F9J/Ux7l1XT bpTT02Ji1fKjmtLNrQkjQfr2zBVCuu5IhMGPecW0wOreBMwHdP01oJx2gLYjTAKt3RXL ekDxG9EidjZjfEkICZSHro6IVYRzH2y6Xz1T/i14SkPi6fvw5gFeks7AsQ+2uNi2Najc hGEVomozHdqWKFX0S/6PCSI0YqWTZ8r6SIeX1mQpto4nLO7hpeO88A63HAD9QyzYYGPB LIwA== Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:31:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DavePC (DRMONS0540W-156034170254.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.ns.bellaliant.net. [156.34.170.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a19sm29821349vdh.9.2013.03.19.08.31.38 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:31:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dave Munroe" To: "Mark J Bradakis" , References: <1772f.264a46d1.3e78799d@aol.com><5147858b.83bf320a.4c1f.ffffc6bc@mx.google.com><63FCD86F000C46A2988FC13C38FBA547@RedBudAdminPC><7495733F0DF7644CBABA4EA216EF4E15012D6536@OLAWPA-EXMB05.ad.garmin.com> <51479560.80201@bradakis.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 12:31:37 -0300 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Test Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Mark and all: I just got off the phone with the Blackberry Tech rep, and the problem is definitely Blackberry X10 specific. This new device sends its texts out as HTML, and unlike all the previous gen Blackberry's, there is no provision to toggle back and forth between HTML and plain text. He also told me that there is, as far as he knew, no imminent update to provide this feature. So I will not have the convenience of sending messages to the List from my new X10. What a drag. Thanks to all who have helped diagnose this problem. Dave B382000450 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" To: Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:29 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Test > Smit, Theo wrote: >> Dunno about that... I'm guessing Dave sent some text in his message. >> >> > > A fair number of folks send out bogus HTML formatting in their messages, > and > the HTML to text filter gets confused and bails out. > > I was going to say this isn't a problem on the forums [ link below ] but > there isn't > a Tiger specific forum. Should there be? Or maybe just Sunbeam? > > mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 19 11:32:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCBB42E47 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:32:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 246614287F for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 11:32:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.89]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DQJD1l0091vN32cACVWid8; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:30:42 +0000 Received: from sz0058.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta22.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DVWh1l00i2xZMJ48iVWhWN; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:30:42 +0000 Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:30:41 +0000 (UTC) From: genepadgett@comcast.net To: rfraser@bluefrog.com s=q20121106; t=1363714242; bh=59+NArM/cXyEaOI1zQ91inI5Rkw69ldkPfZp0gosXbU=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=aWrXLLFuwF/x9fo47nSjnsUoO/O7izgzsykSa8s8MlSBDTlyZ43Kp02cpvpYM4VOZ gYkWcnhfFFylCeqDDhtdWbwRi6YFKiqe7qrJlXNgAJsxBk94VIANrZqG41KCNpPeHq 3d34YGO/9WWZWPMwlL1OKTHNRkjAQiS7fQcdwOT9TZsT4jNLW/e8TzxfIrcc5grFu2 zZBOr/PLySvlwkpSjjdQ8EGO6RT3E68AmNjL91bzJhpHe4wi/+bCcHD3iJfwbo4Vu0 j+XQbbTPC9o7ZDN9K7YcNKQocNRguJ+jwDIo2KI5iqIQg3ff9CVktw/IBKHGqLGRcg ZxXhgNFNc/ZkQ== Cc: johnp@ciseast.com, john procida , tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All, The original clutch fork is not a particularly precise stamping. I measure 9.47 inches from one fork tip to the center of the dimple. The distance from the other fork tip is 9.53 inches. One could speculate that the distance is/should be 9.5 inches along the centerline of the fork to the midpoint between the tips. BTW, the fork does not have any part number on it. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Fraser" To: "David or Gary" , johnp@ciseast.com Cc: "john procida" , tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 6:50:40 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... David Excellent work! Maybe Gene still has his C3AZ clutch fork handy and can measure from the fork tip to the center of the clutch rod dimple. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David or Gary Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 5:39 PM To: johnp@ciseast.com Cc: john.procida@gmail.com; tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch fork.... Still.... I went through all my parts and unfortunately I don't have a MK1 Tiger clutch arm/fork Ford number C3AZ-7515-A. I do have a couple of later arms which may help people locate a suitable length arm. I also checked on what clutch arms are shown in the Ford Factory Master Parts books. Here is what the Ford parts book shows: C3AZ-7515-A 10" (same as Rootes MK1 Tiger), C5OZ-7515-A (MKII Tiger 289) this number is NOT in the Ford Parts book (mis-print by Rootes?), for the 1965 289 (6 bolt bellhousing) Ford shows C5OZ-7515-B 9 1/4" up to date 2/15/68, then for 2/15/68 up they show C8OZ-7515-B 10 1/2". I have examples of the C5OZ-7515-B and C8OZ-7515-B (pictures below) They are almost identical except for how they mount on the pivot inside the bellhousing and the tip. The (C5) 1965 (6 bolt) mounts inside the bellhousing with the same round wire clip as the MK1 Tiger, the (C8) 1968 mounts with a flat spring clip. Now the actual measurements of these clutch fork arms don't match what Ford has listed in their parts book, I don't know how Ford measured them, overall length, from the fork end to the pivot, or? The C5OZ-B is shown as 9 1/4", the only actual measurement which matches is from the tip of the fork to the center of the round clutch rod dimple, but the C8OZ is shown as 10 1/2" and this arm is almost the same as the C5OZ, the whole arm on the C8OZ is 10 3/4". ---------------- Here is what Ford shows, and my measured actual lengths: - C3AZ-7515-A (MK1 Tiger) - Ford 10", actual overall, or tip of the fork to the center of the round clutch rod dimple? - C5OZ-7515-A (MKII) not in Ford book, Tiger owners report 9 1/4" (measured where?). - C5OZ-7515-B - Ford 9 1/4", actual 9 1/4" tip of the fork to the center of the round clutch rod dimple, and 10 1/2" overall. - C8OZ-7515-B - Ford 10 1/2", actual 9 1/4" tip of the fork to the center of the round clutch rod dimple, and 10 3/4" overall. --- I think the measurement should be from the tip of the fork to the center of the round clutch rod dimple, but the Ford C5OZ-7515-B and C8OZ-7515-B measurements don't match (Ford mistake?). ---------------- So, is the (MKI) C3AZ-7515-A Ford 10" actually 9 1/4" or 10 1/2" or ?, and close enough to the 6 bolt non-Tiger C5OZ-7515-B 9 1/4". Since the Ford parts book measurements don't match all actual measurements, I think the Ford 6 bolt 9 1/4" arm C5OZ-7515-B should also work on the MKI. Also is the Tiger Parts book 6 bolt MKII arm C5OZ-7515-A a misprint, and is it actually a C5OZ-7515-B? or is it something special? Boy is this confusing :) --------- For John all the arm measurements. L= 10 1/2, IN= 1 11/16, CC= 2 3/8, SE= 4 1/16, SD= 5 1/8, SP=? David Franchi Rear view 68 at top 65 bottom. http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405952400.jpg Front view 68 at top 65 bottom. http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405952401.jpg 65 arm on top of the 68 http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405952402.jpg 65 on top of the 68 close-up of the tip http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405952403.jpg Side View http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405952404.jpg _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6177 - Release Date: 03/15/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/genepadgett@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 19 17:21:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4856429BC for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:21:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc3-s10.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s10.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A436F40EB0 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2013 17:21:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY148-DS7 ([65.54.190.188]) by bay0-omc3-s10.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:19:49 -0700 From: David or Gary To: tigers@autox.team.net Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 23:19:48 GMT FILETIME=[40B3D620:01CE24F8] Subject: [Tigers] Chrysler Fender Pentastar followup Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I did more research on the Sunbeam/Chrysler Pentastar. I asked on a couple Chrysler/Plymouth Forums when Chrysler went from the all metal Pentastar to the plastic version with the gold anodized metal insert, unfortunately I received no replies, so they weren't helpful. Did receive a couple of e-mails from Tiger list members stating their cars had plastic with the metal insert emblems on their cars. Not a big sample, but so far, it looks like Tigers had this emblem rather than the all metal emblem. -- In my parts I found two different plastic with metal insert emblems. Left - black lines on star, Middle - white lines on star, Right - emblem fell off. -- Front http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405941929.jpg -- Rear http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1283/13544377/24318096/405941930.jpg -- Also ran across information (see below) on the Pentastar history, list members might find interesting. ------------------ 1963 Chrysler Pentastar Fender Location Service Bulletin http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/pentastar-fender-location.html ------------------- Chrysler's Pentastar "history of the logo" (scan down the page). http://www.allpar.com/corporate/pentastar.html _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 20 10:36:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6EBF40432 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:36:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F17140401 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:36:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.73]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E6BF61C000233 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:34:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dqc002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.161.133]) by mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id BF5DAE00008E for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:34:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Rollright@aol.com Full-name: Rollright Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:34:20 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363797261; bh=J203WGQ1fGhCARDsTctiM/vkM1rrm7wZ/njUswu3iZw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=y4GPnZ15AV5sDsuMcmUTOhi4mJWgqvrwXFEMx9RXIkWfJ6vXbk7eIFQWmYUf86YtN p4VkUDUU+Fjs+T2UxVQmb3Ruk12OmQNIeRX7YaG14krVrmojXct7XoAXai9Kagj53u Hk8xpO6HMuqQI/jA/0GadlkQLw9y2sO2n+txHyqk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29495149e50d334d Subject: [Tigers] seat belt anchors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hello, More snow in New England. Sunbeam is all tucked away, still. Because of this, I need a small piece of information. What is the thread of the seat-belt anchor bolts and the recommend length of the bolt threads? I plan to remove the simple bolts and install eye-bolts. Saw it on e-bay and thought, Why not! Won't foul the seat belt down by the floor any more. Anybody know? Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 20 10:41:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF7C4051E for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:41:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from va3outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (va3ehsobe001.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.180.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E89140401 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:40:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail99-va3-R.bigfish.com (10.7.14.237) by VA3EHSOBE012.bigfish.com (10.7.40.62) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:38:59 +0000 Received: from mail99-va3 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail99-va3-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E67A200FB; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:38:59 +0000 (UTC) H:edgetransport.garmin.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: fail (mail99-va3: domain of dynastream.com does not designate 204.77.163.11 as permitted sender) client-ip=204.77.163.11; envelope-from=Theo.Smit@dynastream.com; helo=edgetransport.garmin.com ;t.garmin.com ; Received: from mail99-va3 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail99-va3 (MessageSwitch) id 1363797522483042_6526; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from VA3EHSMHS015.bigfish.com (unknown [10.7.14.225]) by mail99-va3.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC2C2C0052; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:38:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edgetransport.garmin.com (204.77.163.11) by VA3EHSMHS015.bigfish.com (10.7.99.25) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:38:32 +0000 Received: from OLAWPA-EXHT04.ad.garmin.com (10.5.32.182) by edgetransport.garmin.com (192.168.18.220) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.342.3; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:38:27 -0500 Received: from OLAWPA-EXMB05.ad.garmin.com ([169.254.6.100]) by OLAWPA-EXHT04.ad.garmin.com ([10.5.32.182]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:38:30 -0500 From: "Smit, Theo" To: "Rollright@aol.com" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] seat belt anchors Thread-Index: AQHOJYjcjFwzvAAGrEinloUr0DLjEpiuxsrQ Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:38:30 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.50.8.1] Subject: Re: [Tigers] seat belt anchors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net In my experience those are some standard thread. If you get competition seat-belt eyebolts they'll thread right in. Google says 7/16UNF for imperial threads, 10x1.5 for metric. Theo > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers- > bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com > Sent: March 20, 2013 10:34 AM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] seat belt anchors > > Hello, > > More snow in New England. Sunbeam is all tucked away, still. > > Because of this, I need a small piece of information. > > What is the thread of the seat-belt anchor bolts and the recommend > length of the bolt threads? > > I plan to remove the simple bolts and install eye-bolts. Saw it on e- > bay > and thought, Why not! > > Won't foul the seat belt down by the floor any more. > > Anybody know? > > Jim Armstrong > Mk 1A > 382002083 > LRXFE > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/theo.smit@dynastream.com > > ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete the message. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this communication (including attachments) by someone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Thank you. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 20 10:44:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6159C4043F for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:44:28 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f45.google.com (mail-la0-f45.google.com [209.85.215.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384CC40400 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 10:44:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f45.google.com with SMTP id er20so3361559lab.18 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:42:42 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=t5r5w+CkpYydQFqNKDAu9jIVtwMXaDHjWpKQvJcDe9I=; b=1Io4reoMbLq1Kd/UaOfhhIE+Qet/PP3V2yAw2FYBpbv2pd5IQN69o4FpOXkzF7feta 8NLcRRm5R9JtwU486foDGzpXhoVc0cbDCvUDD/a/ZMCn/9GUeekP3ZwdUCpuMaOze+bJ WSnZsahXhWBcAwpkQdXV0h7+PQP0b33Tjo7YDAEktx3uHVGgCLGMB3IAClcvuqK4Llz/ gVT1VQBvlLozinw8E/wsvzWQJ3BYNPFqnXBxacjvQfT5C9MFtBOAgnuL9r86bOMtDzkg gZf32YZz6uH7bJXy6DP3dEAoUR960VQeDtFLRTk4Xn1iYlgc+scaOqoeXApZZZ3GepYI fjFA== m2mr9727833lbj.100.1363797762014; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:42:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.86.42 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:42:11 -0700 (PDT) References: From: "michael@michaelshortt.com" Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 12:42:11 -0400 To: Rollright@aol.com Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] seat belt anchors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I can only tell you what I have used in racing cars. The bolt thread length should go through the sheet metal, fasteners and the nuts with a few threads left exposed, maybe three. What is most important, especially if using the floor pan as the sheet metal is a series of progressively larger washers to help spread the load ( should it ever happen) over the widest possible area. More ideally, you should mount to other structures like a cross member or roll cage for the safest mounting. I have seen poorly mounted belt anchors rip right through thin floor pans when not using progressively larger washers. Michael Shortt On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:34 PM, wrote: > Hello, > > More snow in New England. Sunbeam is all tucked away, still. > > Because of this, I need a small piece of information. > > What is the thread of the seat-belt anchor bolts and the recommend length > of the bolt threads? > > I plan to remove the simple bolts and install eye-bolts. Saw it on e-bay > and thought, Why not! > > Won't foul the seat belt down by the floor any more. > > Anybody know? > > Jim Armstrong > Mk 1A > 382002083 > LRXFE > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael@michaelshortt.com > > > -- Michael L. Shortt Savannah, Georgia www.michaelshortt.com michael@michaelshortt.com 912-232-9390 This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you have received this message in error, then delete it. 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They sell the eyebolts as well. Theo > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers- > bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of michael@michaelshortt.com > Sent: March 20, 2013 10:42 AM > To: Rollright@aol.com > Cc: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Tigers] seat belt anchors > > I can only tell you what I have used in racing cars. > The bolt thread length should go through the sheet metal, fasteners and > the nuts with a few threads left exposed, maybe three. > What is most important, especially if using the floor pan as the sheet > metal is a series of progressively larger washers to help spread the > load ( should it ever happen) over the widest possible area. > More ideally, you should mount to other structures like a cross member > or roll cage for the safest mounting. > > I have seen poorly mounted belt anchors rip right through thin floor > pans when not using progressively larger washers. > > Michael Shortt > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 12:34 PM, wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > More snow in New England. Sunbeam is all tucked away, still. > > > > Because of this, I need a small piece of information. > > > > What is the thread of the seat-belt anchor bolts and the recommend > > length of the bolt threads? > > > > I plan to remove the simple bolts and install eye-bolts. Saw it on > e-bay > > and thought, Why not! > > > > Won't foul the seat belt down by the floor any more. > > > > Anybody know? > > > > Jim Armstrong > > Mk 1A > > 382002083 > > LRXFE > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael@michaelshortt.com > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > Michael L. Shortt > Savannah, Georgia > www.michaelshortt.com > michael@michaelshortt.com > 912-232-9390 > > > This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, > 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally > privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of > this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender > that you have received this message in error, then delete it. Thank > you _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/theo.smit@dynastream.com > > ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete the message. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this communication (including attachments) by someone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Thank you. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 20 11:21:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C577240442 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:21:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A672D40419 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:21:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DmGa1l00C0mv7h053tKUwL; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:19:28 +0000 Received: from OldHickory.comcast.net ([24.125.152.229]) by omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id DtKS1l00k4xDDKL3XtKTyW; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 17:19:28 +0000 Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:17:57 -0400 To: Rollright@aol.com,tigers@autox.team.net From: Marc James Small References: s=q20121106; t=1363799968; bh=AyNXr6Beoc6tuhh2P8E6P47VlFF3ilRZ1Fdev9MDWc8=; h=Received:Received:Date:To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=Iz4+mwyjmHGt0yiFyx7KmDzzTiRRYUnLQbUbZvAEjexan4tc3Np5NLdU596kF0HIr XHG0HvAORJ8nK5GuBFVrVNo52bxt6YME2iqgSeSmzJUhqSMR88104dY9h/SEPvn/tA O9OqNcmXw4i+GFYPQXUa8n/RrofIUdtzOc2epWlInfKJz+dv4Iw9mTNr4/Y5mCLFhL l8xn11p2AOp95FTzCUL01TTvkGJOE3ogYUWlkRbQw1KIhlApxxpjA6/1dCU44UujTP giKAne85JzBH+VZ6+PgfeIAbed/1Y9rsXG4HfglF2UG4E5KVMKYcWboBs6X0HSzuam 1Q/nexY2BVjnA== Subject: Re: [Tigers] seat belt anchors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net At 12:34 PM 3/20/2013, you wrote: >Hello, > >More snow in New England. Sunbeam is all tucked away, still. Shucks,, brother, I ran short of liquor one week-end back in '73 and Carol and I sped up I-95 through snow to the state store in Keene, New Hampshire. Nice people there. Carol and I had a charming ride through the sort of New England so idolized in the US ethos as part of 'Holiday Inn' or the like. That was a fin4 trip. Marc msmall@aya.yale.edu Cha robh b`s fir gun ghr`s fir! _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 20 14:57:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5197740444 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:57:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4A4403FA for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:56:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta002.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r2KKrWaD005919; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:55:11 -0700 Received: by dm0219.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 40189452) id dm0219.513ff370.1280cc; Wed, 20 Mar 2013 13:55:06 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: , Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 16:54:59 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4liNiY9gVVcnZSQfWoYqx8bXRAwgAIZYYg engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-20_06:2013-03-20,2013-03-20,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1211240000 definitions=main-1303200181 Subject: Re: [Tigers] seat belt anchors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jim Seat belts are listed in the Special Accessories section of the Alpine Part List. They only list a 7/16 UNF bolt - no length. Looking in my 88 Mustang Shop Manual shows seat belt bolts 7/16-20 x 1 3/8 to 2.15" long. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:34 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] seat belt anchors Hello, More snow in New England. Sunbeam is all tucked away, still. Because of this, I need a small piece of information. What is the thread of the seat-belt anchor bolts and the recommend length of the bolt threads? I plan to remove the simple bolts and install eye-bolts. Saw it on e-bay and thought, Why not! Won't foul the seat belt down by the floor any more. Anybody know? Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6191 - Release Date: 03/20/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 21 10:33:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88FAE4042B for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:33:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mx3.sogetel.net (mx1.ivic.qc.ca [66.187.114.12]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09650403DD for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:27:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.16.114.14] (helo=mx1.ivic.ca) by mx3.sogetel.net with esmtp (Exim 4.73) (envelope-from ) id 1UIiJF-0003pc-D4 for tigers@autox.team.net; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 12:25:45 -0400 Received: from telvic.net ([127.0.0.1]) by mx1.ivic.ca (IceWarp 10.0.6 RHEL5.4) with ASMTP id GLU82345 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 12:25:45 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 12:25:45 -0400 To: tigers@autox.team.net From: Mercier Denis Subject: [Tigers] Auction Fort Lauderdale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Tiger guys ! There is a auction this weekend at Fort Lauderdale old by Auction America i'm gone be here, there is a Tiger for sale Lot 540 ! http://www.auctionsamerica.com/events/all-lots.cfm?order=runorder&noreserve=& Day=&category=&year=Year+or+Lot+Number&make=Sunbeam&model=Model&SaleCode=FL13 Denis Mercier B382000926LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 21 10:33:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7514051C for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:33:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mx3.sogetel.net (mx1.ivic.qc.ca [66.187.114.12]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13DB403DD for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:31:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.16.114.14] (helo=mx1.ivic.ca) by mx3.sogetel.net with esmtp (Exim 4.73) (envelope-from ) id 1UIiNH-0004mJ-U8 for tigers@autox.team.net; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 12:29:55 -0400 Received: from telvic.net ([127.0.0.1]) by mx1.ivic.ca (IceWarp 10.0.6 RHEL5.4) with ASMTP id GLY34156 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 12:29:56 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 12:29:56 -0400 To: tigers@autox.team.net From: Mercier Denis Subject: [Tigers] oups ! 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Is there supose to be a rear T? Please send any pictures and\or explaination of how this is supose to work. Thanks Joel Martin _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 21 14:08:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA984052F for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 14:08:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from db3outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (db3ehsobe006.messaging.microsoft.com [213.199.154.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B6D403EC for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 14:06:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail58-db3-R.bigfish.com (10.3.81.234) by DB3EHSOBE001.bigfish.com (10.3.84.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:04:25 +0000 Received: from mail58-db3 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail58-db3-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D3A1401F0; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:04:25 +0000 (UTC) H:edgetransport.garmin.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: fail (mail58-db3: domain of dynastream.com does not designate 204.77.163.11 as permitted sender) client-ip=204.77.163.11; envelope-from=Theo.Smit@dynastream.com; helo=edgetransport.garmin.com ;t.garmin.com ; Received: from mail58-db3 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail58-db3 (MessageSwitch) id 1363896260794772_13029; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:04:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DB3EHSMHS001.bigfish.com (unknown [10.3.81.249]) by mail58-db3.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC941C0262; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:04:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edgetransport.garmin.com (204.77.163.11) by DB3EHSMHS001.bigfish.com (10.3.87.101) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:04:19 +0000 Received: from OLAWPA-EXHT04.ad.garmin.com (10.5.32.182) by edgetransport.garmin.com (192.168.18.224) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.342.3; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 15:05:10 -0500 Received: from OLAWPA-EXMB05.ad.garmin.com ([169.254.6.100]) by OLAWPA-EXHT04.ad.garmin.com ([10.5.32.182]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 15:04:16 -0500 From: "Smit, Theo" To: Joel Martin , "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Rear Brake Line Routing Thread-Index: AQHOJm56TXJO2qBNMUO0eOq6jY0FiZiwkS1g Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 20:04:15 +0000 References: <1363895902.28456.YahooMailClassic@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.50.8.1] Cc: Walter Jim Subject: Re: [Tigers] Rear Brake Line Routing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net A single line runs rearwards to the rear axle; on the axle, the line runs to one rear cylinder and a second line runs from that cylinder to the one on the other side. Theo > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers- > bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Martin > Sent: March 21, 2013 1:58 PM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Cc: Walter Jim > Subject: [Tigers] Rear Brake Line Routing > > In routing of new brake lines and using the old ones for patterns, we > cannot figure out how the rear brake line from the T in the engine > compartment connects to the wheel cylinders and the rear rubber brake > hose are suppose to fit. Is there supose to be a rear T? > > Please send any pictures and\or explaination of how this is supose to > work. > > Thanks > Joel Martin > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/theo.smit@dynastream.com > > ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete the message. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this communication (including attachments) by someone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Thank you. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 21 14:27:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28C8740326 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 14:27:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail3.everyone.net [216.200.145.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5060400AD for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 14:27:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta004.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r2LKNVQ1023804; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:25:14 -0700 Received: by dm0225.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4018b13c) id dm0225.513ff361.151f2b; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:25:00 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Joel Martin'" , Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:24:49 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4mbnmtDHcbiI/rRoaudEMd02+JBQAAUBwg engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-21_07:2013-03-21,2013-03-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1211240000 definitions=main-1303210158 Cc: 'Walter Jim' Subject: Re: [Tigers] Rear Brake Line Routing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Joel Unfortunately the rear brake lines are not shown with any detail. The Alpine Parts List does show a Y connection at the rear axle but the Tiger did not use that part. The Tiger run a line from the 5 way connector in the engine compartment along the right side of the drive shaft tunnel to the rubber hose. The Rubber hose connect to a line to the right wheel cylinder then another line runs across the axle to the left wheel cylinder. Brakes are bleed at the left wheel cylinder only. I put a T on the axle and ran 2 lines so I could bleed each wheel cylinder. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Martin Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:58 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Cc: Walter Jim Subject: [Tigers] Rear Brake Line Routing In routing of new brake lines and using the old ones for patterns, we cannot figure out how the rear brake line from the T in the engine compartment connects to the wheel cylinders and the rear rubber brake hose are suppose to fit. Is there supose to be a rear T? Please send any pictures and\or explaination of how this is supose to work. Thanks Joel Martin _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. 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May have to cut the eye bolt and weld it back after attaching the seat belt(in my case at least) or find a way to connect it with a 3rd member- suggestions welcome!!!!!!!!!!! Tony Lang (TtT) >________________________________ > From: Ron Fraser >To: Rollright@aol.com; tigers@autox.team.net >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:54 PM >Subject: Re: [Tigers] seat belt anchors > >Jim > Seat belts are listed in the Special Accessories section of the >Alpine Part List. > >They only list a 7/16 UNF bolt - no length. > >Looking in my 88 Mustang Shop Manual shows seat belt bolts 7/16-20 x 1 3/8 >to 2.15" long. > >Ron Fraser > >-----Original Message----- >From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] >On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:34 PM >To: tigers@autox.team.net >Subject: [Tigers] seat belt anchors > > >Hello, > >More snow in New England. Sunbeam is all tucked away, still. > >Because of this, I need a small piece of information. > >What is the thread of the seat-belt anchor bolts and the recommend length >of the bolt threads? > >I plan to remove the simple bolts and install eye-bolts. Saw it on e-bay >and thought, Why not! > >Won't foul the seat belt down by the floor any more. > >Anybody know? > >Jim Armstrong >Mk 1A >382002083 >LRXFE >_______________________________________________ > >tigers@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com > > > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6191 - Release Date: 03/20/13 >_______________________________________________ > >tigers@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/achd73@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 21 16:26:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FF6E40542 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:26:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from db8outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (mail-db8lp0184.outbound.messaging.microsoft.com [213.199.154.184]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EEE4003F for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:21:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail190-db8-R.bigfish.com (10.174.8.252) by DB8EHSOBE001.bigfish.com (10.174.4.64) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:19:16 +0000 Received: from mail190-db8 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail190-db8-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E628E01F5; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:19:16 +0000 (UTC) H:edgetransport.garmin.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: fail (mail190-db8: domain of dynastream.com does not designate 204.77.163.11 as permitted sender) client-ip=204.77.163.11; envelope-from=Theo.Smit@dynastream.com; helo=edgetransport.garmin.com ;t.garmin.com ; Received: from mail190-db8 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail190-db8 (MessageSwitch) id 1363904353906492_575; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:19:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DB8EHSMHS023.bigfish.com (unknown [10.174.8.253]) by mail190-db8.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA66146005A; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:19:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edgetransport.garmin.com (204.77.163.11) by DB8EHSMHS023.bigfish.com (10.174.4.33) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:19:12 +0000 Received: from OLAWPA-EXHT05.ad.garmin.com (10.2.1.219) by edgetransport.garmin.com (192.168.18.224) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.342.3; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:20:03 -0500 Received: from OLAWPA-EXMB05.ad.garmin.com ([169.254.6.100]) by OLAWPA-EXHT05.ad.garmin.com ([10.2.1.219]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:19:08 -0500 From: "Smit, Theo" To: Tony Lang , "rfraser@bluefrog.com" , "Rollright@aol.com" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] seat belt anchors Thread-Index: AQHOJYjcjFwzvAAGrEinloUr0DLjEpivYx6AgAGmTQD//66I8A== Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 22:19:08 +0000 References: <07F93FE620564EA78B3268F985DA3AB6@ronpc1> <1363903588.1917.YahooMailNeo@web162206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.50.8.1] Subject: Re: [Tigers] seat belt anchors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Tony, The eyebolts should be used with snap-in end plates like these. https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=631 IIRC Old-school 510's came with this style of end plate from the factory so it was easy to get these cheap from the junkyard. The three-point belts with an automatic retractor mechanism probably don't have a suitable snap-in fitting, but they generally need to swivel (and not have complete freedom) in order for the retractor to work properly in the first place. Theo > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers- > bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Lang > Sent: March 21, 2013 4:06 PM > To: rfraser@bluefrog.com; Rollright@aol.com; tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Tigers] seat belt anchors > > This idea is an improvement for using 3 point belts. May have to cut > the eye bolt and weld it back after attaching the seat belt(in my case > at least) or find a way to connect it with a 3rd member- suggestions > welcome!!!!!!!!!!! > > Tony Lang (TtT) > > > >________________________________ > > From: Ron Fraser > > >To: Rollright@aol.com; tigers@autox.team.net > >Sent: > Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:54 PM > >Subject: Re: [Tigers] seat belt anchors > > > >Jim > > Seat belts are listed in the Special Accessories section of the > >Alpine Part List. > > > >They only list a 7/16 UNF bolt - no length. > > > >Looking > in my 88 Mustang Shop Manual shows seat belt bolts 7/16-20 x 1 3/8 > >to 2.15" > long. > > > >Ron Fraser > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: > tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] > >On > Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com > >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:34 PM > >To: > tigers@autox.team.net > >Subject: [Tigers] seat belt anchors > > > > > >Hello, > > > >More > snow in New England. Sunbeam is all tucked away, still. > > > >Because of this, I > need a small piece of information. > > > >What is the thread of the seat-belt > anchor bolts and the recommend length > >of the bolt threads? > > > >I plan to > remove the simple bolts and install eye-bolts. Saw it on e-bay > >and > thought, Why not! > > > >Won't foul the seat belt down by the floor any more. > > > >Anybody know? > > > >Jim Armstrong > >Mk 1A > >382002083 > >LRXFE > >_______________________________________________ > > > >tigers@autox.team.net > > > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Unsubscribe: > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com > > > > > > > > > >----- > >No virus found in this message. > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6191 - Release Date: > >03/20/13 _______________________________________________ > > > >tigers@autox.team.net > > > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/achd73@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/theo.smit@dynastream.com > > ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. 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Thank you. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Mar 21 17:28:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B06FF406AE for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:28:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752F44043D for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 17:23:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004961.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r2LNHjC9025924; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:22:14 -0700 Received: by dm0225.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 40189686) id dm0225.513ff361.156fd8; Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:21:49 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Smit, Theo'" , "'Tony Lang'" , , Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 19:21:40 -0400 Thread-Index: AQHOJYjcjFwzvAAGrEinloUr0DLjEpivYx6AgAGmTQD//66I8IAAEXaw engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-21_07:2013-03-21,2013-03-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1211240000 definitions=main-1303210197 Subject: Re: [Tigers] seat belt anchors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Theo The 71 Datsun 510 seat belts I have require a bolt but clip on could have been an option. I believe 68 Shelby's or possibly most Shelby's had clip on seat belts. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Smit, Theo [mailto:Theo.Smit@dynastream.com] Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 6:19 PM To: Tony Lang; rfraser@bluefrog.com; Rollright@aol.com; tigers@autox.team.net Subject: RE: [Tigers] seat belt anchors Hi Tony, The eyebolts should be used with snap-in end plates like these. https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productdetails.asp?RecID=631 IIRC Old-school 510's came with this style of end plate from the factory so it was easy to get these cheap from the junkyard. The three-point belts with an automatic retractor mechanism probably don't have a suitable snap-in fitting, but they generally need to swivel (and not have complete freedom) in order for the retractor to work properly in the first place. Theo > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers- > bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tony Lang > Sent: March 21, 2013 4:06 PM > To: rfraser@bluefrog.com; Rollright@aol.com; tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Tigers] seat belt anchors > > This idea is an improvement for using 3 point belts. May have to cut > the eye bolt and weld it back after attaching the seat belt(in my case > at least) or find a way to connect it with a 3rd member- suggestions > welcome!!!!!!!!!!! > > Tony Lang (TtT) > > > >________________________________ > > From: Ron Fraser > > >To: Rollright@aol.com; tigers@autox.team.net > >Sent: > Wednesday, March 20, 2013 3:54 PM > >Subject: Re: [Tigers] seat belt anchors > > > >Jim > > Seat belts are listed in the Special Accessories section of the > >Alpine Part List. > > > >They only list a 7/16 UNF bolt - no length. > > > >Looking > in my 88 Mustang Shop Manual shows seat belt bolts 7/16-20 x 1 3/8 > >to 2.15" > long. > > > >Ron Fraser > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: > tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] > >On > Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com > >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:34 PM > >To: > tigers@autox.team.net > >Subject: [Tigers] seat belt anchors > > > > > >Hello, > > > >More > snow in New England. Sunbeam is all tucked away, still. > > > >Because of this, I > need a small piece of information. > > > >What is the thread of the seat-belt > anchor bolts and the recommend length > >of the bolt threads? > > > >I plan to > remove the simple bolts and install eye-bolts. Saw it on e-bay > >and > thought, Why not! > > > >Won't foul the seat belt down by the floor any more. > > > >Anybody know? > > > >Jim Armstrong > >Mk 1A > >382002083 > >LRXFE > >_______________________________________________ > > > >tigers@autox.team.net > > > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Unsubscribe: > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com > > > > > > > > > >----- > >No virus found in this message. > >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > >Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6191 - Release Date: > >03/20/13 _______________________________________________ > > > >tigers@autox.team.net > > > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/achd73@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/theo.smit@dynastream.com > > ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6194 - Release Date: 03/21/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 22 07:06:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CED5142453 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:06:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384554052F for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 07:06:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.13]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0AC8F1C000183 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 09:04:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dqc002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.161.133]) by mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C5940E000082 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 09:04:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Rollright@aol.com Full-name: Rollright Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 09:04:51 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363957491; bh=ct1eNmN+PWwQbvSfVeSgeRSbHV6ilyxWmJ1JAwEoW5M=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=R6wXtuw37Y9X/M+rmzlwizHmtkIKny/zFqeA4Js+3o2k0//fWmGhyLg6pMNBRKWWl M7B03pQ/DZRUrBtXOIg3QrsiaTDAn52ITXF68fE/fg6VI8kGRKS37PIyKSHXpJN4Q6 QQSDXjM/47Hr9Y02Q8bY83XVyor5+AiLkdeVmUCI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d514c56f3280b Subject: [Tigers] Jeff Gordon drive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I found that I was amazed by his driving acumen. Poor car salesman though... Jeff Gordon scares the heck out of a car salesman on a test drive: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q5mHPo2yDG8_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q5mHPo2yDG8) Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 22 09:51:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8599D40E92 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 09:51:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo103.cox.net (eastrmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.215]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEA3F40338 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 09:48:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo109 ([68.230.241.222]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130322154617.HXLQ2870.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo109> for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:46:17 -0400 Received: from JHP ([72.205.39.75]) by eastrmimpo109 with cox id EfmH1l0051dHVuG01fmHMj; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:46:17 -0400 a=0Nm72dJp9Kgw8EhUP4ZIJg==:17 a=hPBKr2hn0FkA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=TGrOJkusxc4A:10 a=yhzT3RzbAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=vnREMb7VAAAA:8 a=PsCBZHtjYRmJ4gdmmAwA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=0Nm72dJp9Kgw8EhUP4ZIJg==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "James Lindner" To: , References: <23725.19e9f53a.3e7db0f3@aol.com> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:46:14 -0400 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Jeff Gordon drive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Listers Not really Jeff Gordon driving (see links) but I still enjoyed it. http://jalopnik.com/that-jeff-gordon-terrifying-a-car-salesman-pepsi-ad-is-453519481 http://jalopnik.com/it-really-doesnt-matter-that-the-jeff-gordon-pepsi-vid-453673329 Jim -----Original Message----- From: Rollright@aol.com Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 9:04 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Jeff Gordon drive I found that I was amazed by his driving acumen. Poor car salesman though... Jeff Gordon scares the heck out of a car salesman on a test drive: _http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q5mHPo2yDG8_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q5mHPo2yDG8) Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jliny5@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 22 11:41:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F2044226E for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:41:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm21-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm21-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5ECB40046 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:37:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm21.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2013 17:35:12 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.235] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2013 17:35:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1035.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2013 17:35:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 25898 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Mar 2013 17:35:12 -0000 s=s1024; t=1363973711; bh=LZT5atAnnKhvUuWoVa2UjQE6fO8XHVKVqKOZc7d/7Ts=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=a4MeRw3/B1KgTBdztLAr6XqTVma9djqnvJUVx+brzFe34AEJta3SZWEDZRVBHbdmg+r4sQs9sAgm0R5PPKq34s+/VLwfnmDvQKCNF+/CVsr93CoRiJEdV/TZz+gwTP/WCiy+fWcIIFYo+5RPTevgpoQQNwT2efkBS59SbsH0YWg= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5MEu+dbjXGXM1ly1PZxcf0cHEs3dkoc0Pqqe0tWWTZ7xHkx6otfCmDmVWZ/qxtz8gGkd/LIUAP6NzRb8bY8YF5FB3YeygJKyyu/EoEHOwqFyyubjcE4FnBuNmhxDB6McQ9eIum2foKdR2dNf6g3e2atl1U9uIHM4CTBjh/YCa/Q=; Sec0vNU5C84oi3tJObHJob6k43Fl98Rp1QousgvNPw6e0sxKSnlI_koY.av1 FDc5iPBsCtkuz3lrON.eBft6Z45Lz0ahS7lNNLcD1kinFUGmWTelZgBSC.Nk HeyrWEKcLG8.rUAlUu3IwGEfSeKLJx8YhYZxsJYC4eWbl8e7yGgPv0.ihYKS eBjaR6JLGptfl3CLO.0C1QrW7drszx1G56TTVGrLTo1da4Y4aJCuVYqqBLvz Zx3qLhTkyRjl.Ygq.F1MsrGXip8BroM7wQwvhoQA1iMipCW55umN_HdP6m6G 6MbbvChQut_4lbsiENCUWdu6v2nSgz2qfBAaR4YpoTupPrWatN9IaWyodOOO G9IwZgmUdqMZcCm18hR0l_GPQJr8dDwu5TwrlmCCNeRnBjQnM1cBWCXaZiW8 80DXakLcWjSg8lykXKl9Tk9Jd.8KfNzjYTOs1GeVuaLZHnN_CXPXYDoEDo2X c6zEaoMkH_GsgM3Zx_LI9uorsDCSTTq73TXVl2bYlufe0sRR0GoxhzUqZakW 8MCBqFkQWa8mvTW37BNoKPGCsdyLrwc4eV63zmwbTGLi15Jt4Xdq5y2lPcr8 QEIcUVeP8aXresN9fzZ_RdkyceXW.vpzPOaBhQv7oR8rOXHkf6xelxo0Wgqx MSMMLr4pm5WK1ZNXwGdFtyyrS3_eBE6SQU_HGr.IRa8OxdaIoAD4iYd5s1fr jvX4- Received: from [170.139.252.252] by web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:35:11 PDT VGhhbmsgeW91IHRvIGFsbCB3aG8gaGF2ZSByZXNwb25kZWQuwqAgWW91ciBrbm93bGVkZ2UgaXMgYWx3YXlzIGFwcHJlY2lhdGVkLsKgIFdlIGFyZSB3b3JraW5nIG9uIGl0IHRvZGF5IGJ1dCB5b3UgYWxsIGdhdmUgdXMgYSBnb29kIGlkZWFzIGFuZCBzdGFydGluZyBwb2ludC4gDQrCoA0KSm9lbCBNYXJ0aW4NCg0KLS0tIE9uIFRodSwgMy8yMS8xMywgUm9uIEZyYXNlciA8cmZyYXNlckBibHVlZnJvZy5jb20.IHdyb3RlOg0KDQoNCkZyb206IFJvbiBGcmFzZXIgPHJmcmFzZXJAYmx1ZWZyb2cuY29tPg0KU3UBMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 10:35:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Joel Martin To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Rear Brake Line Routing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thank you to all who have responded. Your knowledge is always appreciated. We are working on it today but you all gave us a good ideas and starting point. Joel Martin --- On Thu, 3/21/13, Ron Fraser wrote: From: Ron Fraser Subject: RE: [Tigers] Rear Brake Line Routing To: "'Joel Martin'" , tigers@autox.team.net Cc: "'Walter Jim'" Date: Thursday, March 21, 2013, 4:24 PM Joel Unfortunately the rear brake lines are not shown with any detail. The Alpine Parts List does show a Y connection at the rear axle but the Tiger did not use that part. The Tiger run a line from the 5 way connector in the engine compartment along the right side of the drive shaft tunnel to the rubber hose. The Rubber hose connect to a line to the right wheel cylinder then another line runs across the axle to the left wheel cylinder. Brakes are bleed at the left wheel cylinder only. I put a T on the axle and ran 2 lines so I could bleed each wheel cylinder. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Martin Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 3:58 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Cc: Walter Jim Subject: [Tigers] Rear Brake Line Routing In routing of new brake lines and using the old ones for patterns, we cannot figure out how the rear brake line from the T in the engine compartment connects to the wheel cylinders and the rear rubber brake hose are suppose to fit. Is there supose to be a rear T? Please send any pictures and\or explaination of how this is supose to work. Thanks Joel Martin _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6194 - Release Date: 03/21/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 22 12:56:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCF794226E for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:56:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741A1406A9 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:50:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Cobra (173-228-106-127.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [173.228.106.127]) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with SMTP id r2MImKGQ002381; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:48:21 -0700 From: "csx2282" To: , References: Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 11:48:20 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Jeff Gordon drive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net This was a hoax. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I found that I was amazed by his driving acumen. Poor car salesman > though... > > > Jeff Gordon scares the heck out of a car salesman on a test drive: > > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q5mHPo2yDG8_ > (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q5mHPo2yDG8) > > > > > Jim Armstrong > Mk 1A > 382002083 > LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 22 12:57:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56D8142872 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:57:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B2F406A9 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 12:52:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6D3E81C000128; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:50:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dqc002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.161.133]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0363EE000088; Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:50:50 -0400 (EDT) From: Rollright@aol.com Full-name: Rollright Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 14:50:49 -0400 (EDT) To: csx2282@sonic.net, tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1363978250; bh=79UOGDvRNUym71127YVA+9jI5vf8v0BBMfL+jM6KjLk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pn7h1NsMJsOShglAizjHYf0OzwaOOKWcrtTOLnpDyIGZUPsvdhKmSQS7Fh8fZ0JpS cb0T2OoX/W/gjQurDzhjBL+WbEx4c17P4HHXVa/pbZYr/5xxCGDHBmV7WL/oLVJhVr X/WTd1cZuP+tFKBPnOvVdiMdWea3tPN30gA4LxjQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c7514ca80a456c Subject: Re: [Tigers] Jeff Gordon drive Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net OK OK It was a hoax But it was a fun hoax........... Jim A In a message dated 3/22/2013 2:48:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, csx2282@sonic.net writes: This was a hoax. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > I found that I was amazed by his driving acumen. Poor car salesman > though... > > > Jeff Gordon scares the heck out of a car salesman on a test drive: > > _http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q5mHPo2yDG8_ > (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Q5mHPo2yDG8) > > > > > Jim Armstrong > Mk 1A > 382002083 > LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 06:31:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F444299B for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:31:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f170.google.com (mail-we0-f170.google.com [74.125.82.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78B042849 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:27:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-we0-f170.google.com with SMTP id z2so3017878wey.1 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 05:25:57 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=eVPAJNnX/dKJaAJ1hAok2zlKHrgXvFWbWe5UH3l1Gpc=; b=uUQqB1Sde1fYTNgN79wDHogvoqQ3/pUKr8xaggjmo7SKaXKu0Zxitq3BZQDjC7+n7Z VxUXYU2lZ7tU4X5IO354pIXK2wYOm4NF2kVBEgFaJQXpTO1iNQNaRyIPlxO/IFMHP/XA khv91Ff11ISyFoN60u/i7Kx83IsyB2KZ9bW+UGocj4Usna1EOxXXzgf9TEUGDB96UvaJ WetmZ/3X7CibGxRyTAudHKTPWs8ZaisS3fqtawcvuH7oGbhpSl/oHc8zbvQ/MvB8gF8v QPuyRvHgrnkKjunvDvcdI7TD6bHEZI1x0I+6+k0luLNXjnuzxGq9/kYESMYbyoA8ayvy Pyug== q8mr12044846wib.18.1364127957344; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 05:25:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.109.231 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 05:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 08:25:56 -0400 From: kevin beck To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] doors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wanting to get my car ready for the chrome side trim pieces previous owner had started restoration and filled all the holes. Car has been painted since, but needs a repaint. Doors fit OK and close good, but sit just a bit low at the back. Hinges look OK but who knows. Is there a adjustment at the rear that would bring the door up a touch or is this fairly common. Car has around 75000 miles. Thanks Kevin _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 06:45:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E78F4287C for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:45:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f177.google.com (mail-wi0-f177.google.com [209.85.212.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDE142849 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:45:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id hm14so5756520wib.16 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 05:43:07 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=0yQ61UFX++NlmnutHSTkGYBtUvEgz8jDGixhrB0KttQ=; b=UXk2ucBZ/HT6coVfEcVtciS6DqGZW+RYZCTlZKmFhU8wM7Q85EA7e1nsYiDkthoWt1 9AtMW+wo+Vd3me3jgets5Owe68o9vKy6v0cDcxVn/WnuxgiedQaHxjUrfeP8yqqWvm1g H1hi5nyldI3dnpPZ8v5GE5j/2jfFBu8wFY+HJXnZFoCW6/FYQngl0LfOlCQFdIIMMiM+ YtBm1MaigRZX3QZ5jGafFoOwe9tiY7IpDsL72P8PSJSZEEFTLk9etJpgex211n9Xcx3U +fLiEvRJt6qT/XQn6nGBOawYZJ4+hHywW0j6kvRARbRZQLB1x42CLgb5uTs3JzcqzBtD 0cmw== ep7mr20432235wid.12.1364128987318; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 05:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.109.231 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 05:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 08:43:07 -0400 From: kevin beck To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] door adjustment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wanting to get my car ready for the chrome side trim pieces previous owner had started restoration and filled all the holes. Car has been painted since, but needs a repaint. Doors fit OK and close good, but sit just a bit low at the back. Hinges look OK but who knows. Is there a adjustment at the rear that would bring the door up a touch or is this fairly common. Car has around 75000 miles. Thanks Kevin _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 07:03:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0B484299F for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:03:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149A64226D for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:03:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f41.google.com with SMTP id fo12so9830234lab.28 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:01:08 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=PLZ745pnXCWgH5cmDHx85gNaaWIMxLTC4NZbrPzZM9Y=; b=iw4CmHj8AyNxJPXOrUp2OYEede7XVPzlOwE9YFTZEVFY5RRvjXaijEhTeImJ55cLtx 2MbwbpAE/SAuHyaUZuUjhhPJEyows5v02SkX5WGyWN1jIHwQMJP1B46Rwiijp3B3FWGp jpJOHP9EjWBfVyv/q93G+Agnh7eH5XQNNZpD9kyyX76LXJthV5oMn54tXephbzq1YdJi YyKfDr4JAxEZj1gWvcfnwkI4dc4UZqASzr/s4yzBeIQAyWh6gh8vFw+qCAcWYFkSdN3k ZhwdTFTI4fv9Zk12J8U2lS5yJWLLiA4CuzgOVUvLU3P85rGqpZQBPN0n8ORV5M887+DY F+hw== fj6mr4147266lbb.115.1364130068253; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:01:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.86.42 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.86.42 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:01:07 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 09:01:07 -0400 From: "michael@michaelshortt.com" To: kevin beck Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] doors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Don't know about Tigers specifically, but sagging doors are common on old cars, there are various fixes. 1. Many hinges can be adjusted. 2. Some hinges have brass/bronze bushings in them that wear out, these are like collars that the door pins go thru. 3. You can use brute force and place a piece of wood under the last 12" of a wide open door and use a floor jack to "adjust" it back up ( lots of little pumps and check fit it between all of them). I'm sure others may have a better answer for you, I have used all three solutions above on various doors. Michael Shortt On Mar 24, 2013 8:29 AM, "kevin beck" wrote: > Wanting to get my car ready for the chrome side trim pieces previous owner > had started restoration and filled all the holes. > Car has been painted since, but needs a repaint. Doors fit OK and close > good, but sit just a bit low at the back. Hinges look OK but who knows. Is > there a adjustment > at the rear that would bring the door up a touch or is this fairly common. > Car has around 75000 miles. Thanks Kevin > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael@michaelshortt.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 07:06:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80ED0429A6 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:06:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DE254226F for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:05:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004962.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r2OD45KX016631; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:04:05 -0700 Received: by dm0224.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 40189276) id dm0224.513ff363.1aa790; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 06:03:51 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'kevin beck'" , Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 09:03:40 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4ojSlgHPtvVboCS7GRL517H7o8fwAASawg engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-24_01:2013-03-22,2013-03-24,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1211240000 definitions=main-1303240105 Subject: Re: [Tigers] door adjustment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Kevin I have a shim behind one or more of the door hinges to get the door aligned. There is some adjustment in the Door Striker and back plate. There is also some adjustment in the door hinge. You maybe able to loosen the lower door hinge screws, move the hinge up or down some to move the rear of the door up. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of kevin beck Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 8:43 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] door adjustment Wanting to get my car ready for the chrome side trim pieces previous owner had started restoration and filled all the holes. Car has been painted since, but needs a repaint. Doors fit OK and close good, but sit just a bit low at the back. Hinges look OK but who knows. Is there a adjustment at the rear that would bring the door up a touch or is this fairly common. Car has around 75000 miles. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6195 - Release Date: 03/21/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 08:32:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75B2429A9 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 08:32:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f52.google.com (mail-qa0-f52.google.com [209.85.216.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4535E42850 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 08:25:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id bs12so946949qab.18 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:23:45 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id :subject:cc:content-type; bh=6VxH8u916/NFQKI1LozfggW81Q4NPEvJCOYVnr57+Ko=; b=UnAB2GNs5331h1JfUufFeaHopcam6wIAAu0DaHrUhRoUrrcyhEW/WGw8gemNVowNtG aWRtBGLSCUOkwltHRvKP5hWrBT69jPz1myjngQVxfvZawqW3gfam8OJy1rZJ7SryA+Ah f8Z4bFsdYtPbpQcPDIyhGA9l1TzcbhULqd6wk= d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:references:from:in-reply-to:mime-version:date:message-id :subject:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=6VxH8u916/NFQKI1LozfggW81Q4NPEvJCOYVnr57+Ko=; b=FMsQuNGGI782eA4vJIVcu/L5+FWnaQzNldGNujBbllfL8WZZQadB9hpToNg4AvztVp phktnll7rahHMNC0ds6IGGI6EN7i1dRujGSZGNXNI8xRcHx7gaoWbpQuATfWTM2wda7D MQnfPWkOtqeOsroUBEJSnpBvScuYIHruAm9BjUzgxiMjWQlWm2Pu2dpNiJwmEBhhz1B6 bRAu7d0C91uoppAXl9c+DLfsvBoIn2plcXWSgh42AYmhVGGv/GcNryUuQPNf3m9Ib9tE geWGKF9ZOB4+lnDxc4TtonTQiorpkjuAsynZ5OTL+0S11c282IY3GWWyPNiBTznYIAvF REnw== ib17mt2834611qab.62.1364135025565; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:23:45 -0700 (PDT) References: <08737C86AE164B1CACC3979ED74F42AD@ronpc1> From: Dave Munroe Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:23:44 -0300 Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Seats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Good morning Tiger gurus: Do any of you know how many seat-back frame versions that were installed in the Tiger over the tears? My car came with a custom-made interior based on the seat-back covers with the "flap" center section. I ordered and received from SS a new set of foams for the "center flap" style of seat back, but, while these foams are things of beauty they are considerably too large for the seat-back frames that came in my car... Did Rootes change the size of these frames at some point? Thanks for your help... Dave _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 08:47:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2627E429A9 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 08:47:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-da0-f51.google.com (mail-da0-f51.google.com [209.85.210.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FCCA42585 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 08:44:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-da0-f51.google.com with SMTP id g27so2772285dan.10 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:42:48 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date :cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=VQJIC5T4mEk6Got6hOQsOlcssGxp1VhXgqAqKwBsJM4=; b=QpR9p4RngbyAYUr7Z2uXLfoM/UBGUxv65fVtlpkigro4gAXUhry8opjbUvQ8tfxXS0 oiIpxIM9ZkwAZUCvy/gm3BrKY0iakVOCTcwGW2H7eObAItHZpGHFcB7tRwSmCutCG0vz uuUfT0obTgOU1INnZ5xpNoQV6eTssGZ5VNmIFnyQzInHygDJl1qJxgPfQGvSZ5+ohNM5 skEPiRSq1T8GV0kBxjr/QYOa3oxsGfFEg992wE095RBd0rSPzU77bpOrtpXqzeJUK6oO yoQqXP7TdRGfOnvlGTg19JNgc0TyxvwIVWKmG5ReHIBdKk9dr0Ls9nCmTH6C/66sQp9+ zoBw== qy5mr13362059pab.152.1364136168781; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:42:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.7] ([76.91.103.207]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fk1sm9796307pbd.36.2013.03.24.07.42.46 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:42:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay Laifman Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 07:42:45 -0700 References: To: kevin beck Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] door adjustment Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Adjusting doors is obviously terribly tricky. First, note that when the cars were first made, the doors were already assembled before any primer or paint. So, a common problem is that guys take off their doors, and the door frame and door sides and each side of the hinges get primered and painted. Four total surfaces, for eight "shims" of primer and paint, if only one layer of each. This causes the entire door to be moved backwards towards the rear of the car. In my case, it was enough thickness for the tip of the chrome latch to hit the inside of the door lock mechanism. Second, the hinges and the door frame/door itself, are not parallel. As you orient the hinge, or slide it outwards, that in essence widens the hinge. If you were to slide the bottom hinge out and the top hinge in (on both the door frame and the door), that would cause the bottom rear of the door to lift up. But, of course, it will at the same time do all sorts of other changes. As I said, terribly tricky... On Mar 24, 2013, at 5:43 AM, kevin beck wrote: > Wanting to get my car ready for the chrome side trim pieces previous owner > had started restoration and filled all the holes. > Car has been painted since, but needs a repaint. Doors fit OK and close > good, but sit just a bit low at the back. Hinges look OK but who knows. Is > there a adjustment > at the rear that would bring the door up a touch or is this fairly common. > Car has around 75000 miles. Thanks Kevin > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 10:04:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3F0424C0 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:04:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320D340532 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:01:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta002.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r2OFvUDA032190; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 08:59:54 -0700 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4348622e) id dm0213.513ff380.1a1ede; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 08:59:06 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.147.42]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:58:58 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Dave Munroe'" , <"undisclosed-recipients:>"@NONE.team.net> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:58:46 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4onBmcT7AShAKKTkuj3XCVFweV2wAC6W6w engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-24_01:2013-03-22,2013-03-24,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1211240000 definitions=main-1303240154 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Seats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Dave I don't see any information in the Parts List about seat frames for the Tiger. Maybe the 1st question should be - do you have the correct seat frames? Are they Sunbeam seats or something else? There should be a tech article on Tigers United about restoring seats that may help you. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Munroe Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:24 AM To: undisclosed-recipients: Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Seats Good morning Tiger gurus: Do any of you know how many seat-back frame versions that were installed in the Tiger over the tears? My car came with a custom-made interior based on the seat-back covers with the "flap" center section. I ordered and received from SS a new set of foams for the "center flap" style of seat back, but, while these foams are things of beauty they are considerably too large for the seat-back frames that came in my car... Did Rootes change the size of these frames at some point? Thanks for your help... 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We have put in a quart of silicone so far with none coming out of the wheel cylinders or calipers in front. Leaking booster internally is now a fear even after rebuilding with no leaks in the lines so far. I am trying to use Sunbeam Specialities headers on a 66 MK 1A. This is proving to be very difficult on a 289 HiPo motor. Fitting around motor mounts, frame, steering column, starter and now the remote oil filter set up. If we use the stock motor block to remote oil filter hoses etc up, with one hose coming out of the center and the other pointing to the front of car, the one out of the center will be within 1/16" of the front tube header. I am afraid this would just boil the oil going thru that line. Is there a part that moves BOTH the inlet and outlet hoses to the front of the car as opposed to the center and front outlet configuration. The stock starter appears to have to have the passenger side headers removed or at least loose with motor mount off and now bench testing starter even after a rebuilt appears bad. Does anyone know of a manufacture and part number for a hi torque EXTERNAL soloniod starter that works with SS headers? I will call Rick on Monday but thought I would pose this question to those already having been down this road. Also, the Federal Mogel engine mounts rubber are 2 different size thickness with the same thickness. One being 1.25" and 1 being 1" thickness putting undue stress on 1.25" side with twisting in place - I will have to find another 1" if that is the correct one, which I think it is. Ideas? Challanges, challenges. Thanks in advance. Joel Martin _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 10:51:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C06E4282E for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:51:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from am1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (am1ehsobe006.messaging.microsoft.com [213.199.154.209]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC12A40445 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:42:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail95-am1-R.bigfish.com (10.3.201.233) by AM1EHSOBE017.bigfish.com (10.3.207.139) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:40:01 +0000 Received: from mail95-am1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail95-am1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CA4C1C027B; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:40:01 +0000 (UTC) H:edgetransport.garmin.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: fail (mail95-am1: domain of dynastream.com does not designate 204.77.163.11 as permitted sender) client-ip=204.77.163.11; envelope-from=Theo.Smit@dynastream.com; helo=edgetransport.garmin.com ;t.garmin.com ; Received: from mail95-am1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail95-am1 (MessageSwitch) id 1364143198435298_13832; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from AM1EHSMHS006.bigfish.com (unknown [10.3.201.232]) by mail95-am1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67E6F460057; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:39:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edgetransport.garmin.com (204.77.163.11) by AM1EHSMHS006.bigfish.com (10.3.207.106) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:39:58 +0000 Received: from OLAWPA-EXHT03.ad.garmin.com (10.5.32.181) by edgetransport.garmin.com (192.168.18.220) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.342.3; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:39:55 -0500 Received: from OLAWPA-EXMB05.ad.garmin.com ([169.254.6.100]) by OLAWPA-EXHT03.ad.garmin.com ([10.5.32.181]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:39:55 -0500 From: "Smit, Theo" To: Joel Martin , "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter Question Thread-Index: AQHOKK1KLFTn8qs15Eav8LxHdiEz25i1CZ4w Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:39:53 +0000 References: <1364142754.66208.YahooMailClassic@web124704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.50.8.1] Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The mini-starter I have (some unknown brand...) was clock-able so that I could arrange the parts to not interfere with the header tubes. Depending on the headers, the clearance to the oil filter adapter is very tight. But the oil flows fast enough that it's not going to be heated significantly going through the passage past the header tube; also, you should get the headers ceramic coated after you figure out all the places they need to be tweaked to allow you to install them. If you have motor mounts with different thicknesses you'll need to go back and find proper ones that are handed correctly, and that are the same thickness... no need to make things more difficult than they already are. Extra thickness may help with fan to rack clearance, although that may be more easily achieved with motor mount spacers and/or heat shields. Theo > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers- > bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Martin > Sent: March 24, 2013 10:33 AM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter Question > > All > > Does anyone know the capactiy of the brake line system with stock > Girling master cylinder and brake booster. We have put in a quart of > silicone so far with none coming out of the wheel cylinders or calipers > in front. Leaking booster internally is now a fear even after > rebuilding with no leaks in the lines so far. > > I am trying to use Sunbeam Specialities headers on a 66 MK 1A. This is > proving to be very difficult on a 289 HiPo motor. Fitting around motor > mounts, frame, steering column, starter and now the remote oil filter > set up. > If we use the stock motor block to remote oil filter hoses etc up, with > one hose coming out of the center and the other pointing to the front > of car, the one out of the center will be within 1/16" of the front > tube header. I am afraid this would just boil the oil going thru that > line. Is there a part that moves BOTH the inlet and outlet hoses to > the front of the car as opposed to the center and front outlet > configuration. > > The stock starter appears to have to have the passenger side headers > removed or at least loose with motor mount off and now bench testing > starter even after a rebuilt appears bad. > > Does anyone know of a manufacture and part number for a hi torque > EXTERNAL soloniod starter that works with SS headers? I will call Rick > on Monday but thought I would pose this question to those already > having been down this road. > > Also, the Federal Mogel engine mounts rubber are 2 different size > thickness with the same thickness. One being 1.25" and 1 being 1" > thickness putting undue stress on 1.25" side with twisting in place - I > will have to find another 1" if that is the correct one, which I think > it is. Ideas? > > Challanges, challenges. > > Thanks in advance. > Joel Martin > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/theo.smit@dynastream.com > > ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. 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Thank you. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 11:22:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEBEC4257C for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:22:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mx1.intermaxnetworks.com (unknown [208.67.62.238]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C68DA4225A for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:15:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 11653 invoked from network); 24 Mar 2013 17:14:17 -0000 Received: from intermx-199-231-113-218.rev.intermaxnetworks.com (HELO bob) (tgrrr@meadowcrk.com@199.231.113.218) by mx1.intermaxnetworks.com with SMTP (3f1cf062-94a6-11e2-95ae-0025906a2f52); Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:14:17 -0700 From: "Bob Hokanson" To: "Tigers" , "Joel Martin" References: <1364142754.66208.YahooMailClassic@web124704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:13:28 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Something like this? http://www.landlproducts.com/details.aspx?cID=9&BP=0&scID=0&ItemID=1020 Bob H ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Martin" To: Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:32 AM Subject: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter Question Is there a part > that moves BOTH the inlet and outlet hoses to the front of the car as > opposed > to the center and front outlet configuration. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 11:22:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C77F42458 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:22:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f172.google.com (mail-pd0-f172.google.com [209.85.192.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB0A4225A for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:15:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f172.google.com with SMTP id w10so2206726pde.31 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:13:18 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date :message-id:to:mime-version:x-mailer; bh=CJJyQQzlOGbp+5viyipBSzNPe8bwBKjWXEtWiu4a73g=; b=LU7VVFirTMfQXb5RkzzNoU48WiyPILWQlVEiKlqzEBLyYs8Xkzc363+d26uqtq6Xwf WxhnOdHh1f4aVOwBwY9G9mt1Fe6WrBqJ7gslMVCqw6IjEDIywWWAotYtexNZwaSxduQu 7BHwmXyBJPTmFKTwQOBP7bZkx227cBlBhS2IwZwC0oAUvpkdpiIJnqjZfW0xWGr2oQyK rNWd1d6zEqBrF3bk+TAfgbMqPXUguSs4dpC2urpT3ZeOpgklfsfbjbDgKrjpe3B6Mz2c hcAYfOzR5vmJ6o7/6FzViOQ2p/FnA0gGEI3jXDpA4Z2qWDYdtZi5vNjk2xe+Oa24aS3+ apEA== sg5mr13471764pbb.101.1364145198017; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:13:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.7] ([76.91.103.207]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ef3sm11347288pad.20.2013.03.24.10.13.16 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:13:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay Laifman Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:13:15 -0700 To: Tiger's Den Subject: [Tigers] Radiator Overflow Cannister Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The one on the Tiger is fine and original. But, on the kit car my dad and I built in 1976, now with a water cooled V6, I'm looking for a metal overflow container for the radiator. Anyone know of any or have any that would be good? The best would be someone who replaced a non-stock one in their Tiger with the right one, and wants to get rid of the old one! Thanks _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 11:52:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B8442587 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:52:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail3.everyone.net [216.200.145.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6C440E9C for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:47:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004959.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r2OHhovg016532; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:45:41 -0700 Received: by dm0225.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4018b139) id dm0225.513ff361.1af5b9; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:45:03 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Joel Martin'" , Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 13:44:05 -0400 Thread-Index: AQHOKK1KLFTn8qs15Eav8LxHdiEz25i1CZ4wgAAP34A= engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-24_06:2013-03-22,2013-03-24,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1211240000 definitions=main-1303240186 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Joel I don't know the volume needed for the brake system but 1 quart is too much. You need to check the brake booster and make sure the vacuum hose is clear and not running brake fluid into the engine. The total thickness of my original used motor mounts ranges from 1.3" to 1.4". It has been reported that none of the motor mounts currently on the market will work on a Tiger. Too low a motor mount and the fan will hit the rack. Ron Fraser > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers- > bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Martin > Sent: March 24, 2013 10:33 AM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter > Question > > All > > Does anyone know the capactiy of the brake line system with stock > Girling master cylinder and brake booster. We have put in a quart of > silicone so far with none coming out of the wheel cylinders or > calipers in front. Leaking booster internally is now a fear even > after rebuilding with no leaks in the lines so far. > > I am trying to use Sunbeam Specialities headers on a 66 MK 1A. This > is proving to be very difficult on a 289 HiPo motor. Fitting around > motor mounts, frame, steering column, starter and now the remote oil > filter set up. If we use the stock motor block to remote oil filter > hoses etc up, with one hose coming out of the center and the other > pointing to the front of car, the one out of the center will be within > 1/16" of the front tube header. I am afraid this would just boil the > oil going thru that line. Is there a part that moves BOTH the inlet > and outlet hoses to the front of the car as opposed to the center and > front outlet configuration. > > The stock starter appears to have to have the passenger side headers > removed or at least loose with motor mount off and now bench testing > starter even after a rebuilt appears bad. > > Does anyone know of a manufacture and part number for a hi torque > EXTERNAL soloniod starter that works with SS headers? I will call > Rick on Monday but thought I would pose this question to those already > having been down this road. > > Also, the Federal Mogel engine mounts rubber are 2 different size > thickness with the same thickness. One being 1.25" and 1 being 1" > thickness putting undue stress on 1.25" side with twisting in place - > I will have to find another 1" if that is the correct one, which I > think it is. Ideas? > > Challanges, challenges. > > Thanks in advance. > Joel Martin > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/theo.smit@dynastream.com > > ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete the message. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this communication (including attachments) by someone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Thank you. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 11:53:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEBDC424B6 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:53:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8283A40E9C for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:51:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FVpY1l00217UAYkA8Vpg5V; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:49:40 +0000 Received: from sz0058.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id FVpg1l00C2xZMJ48ZVpg9F; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:49:40 +0000 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:49:40 +0000 (UTC) From: genepadgett@comcast.net To: Joel Martin s=q20121106; t=1364147380; bh=OGBJPQzCEjmwc0DMvJmj8vUt04DQL6pO9NO1ZCTk04U=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=pXRwlN4AVvS8hCBUwer7lVlTQJXjHxTIRFYr1+oD+cHsIyjh31U9FWCAnkAwJk+MR e7zybWcU24Hq69JcVivLClyYOiml74cuC37NCf9SdSYj+IF7wUweyrku/gyjjuPpec qbTgFszb48oId7HRJOn9fWh5zboJ6r74tK9lSLD2YENVh7ElN8jndPCKaVlUYXlrxy /GJwny1X6HFTjnc480GqPjTpQfU8veVX6PijSMKbGtibCwe3nqLYC3JxoWaEWgzyED zoHz/xsttHsez0fWPx53e5UrbmdG3YXbzM1nA8jnYnXLbWFFVYTsZK2N+LwgKzZeLU K4IPSuUczmHEQ== Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Joel, Actually the thicker sized motor mount is correct. I have the old original mounts for my car among my stock pile of original parts for reference. ( Sometimes I amaze myself...) Mount # C3AA-6B032-H-LH is a bit distorted sideways but measures 1.35 inches thick on one side and 1.30 inches thick on the other, Measurements are at the single stud area. The thickness is important to get the motor to sit high enough in the for far fan clearance of the rack cross tube. Same goes for those all important 1/8 inch washers between the mounts and the block on each side. Buck Trippel wrote a very helpful article on motor mounts for the CAT club newsletter, not that long ago it seems. He pointed out that there is a lot of bad product out there. Among other things the angles of the metal stamped parts are often off and he provided the info on what they should be. As I recall, at the time good ones could be found at NAPA and perhaps those made by Anchor, but do not hold me to that. I am not sure I can immediately find the article, but I will look if you want me to do so. I could probably get to it tomorrow. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Martin" To: tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 11:32:34 AM Subject: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter Question All Does anyone know the capactiy of the brake line system with stock Girling master cylinder and brake booster. We have put in a quart of silicone so far with none coming out of the wheel cylinders or calipers in front. Leaking booster internally is now a fear even after rebuilding with no leaks in the lines so far. I am trying to use Sunbeam Specialities headers on a 66 MK 1A. This is proving to be very difficult on a 289 HiPo motor. Fitting around motor mounts, frame, steering column, starter and now the remote oil filter set up. If we use the stock motor block to remote oil filter hoses etc up, with one hose coming out of the center and the other pointing to the front of car, the one out of the center will be within 1/16" of the front tube header. I am afraid this would just boil the oil going thru that line. Is there a part that moves BOTH the inlet and outlet hoses to the front of the car as opposed to the center and front outlet configuration. The stock starter appears to have to have the passenger side headers removed or at least loose with motor mount off and now bench testing starter even after a rebuilt appears bad. Does anyone know of a manufacture and part number for a hi torque EXTERNAL soloniod starter that works with SS headers? I will call Rick on Monday but thought I would pose this question to those already having been down this road. Also, the Federal Mogel engine mounts rubber are 2 different size thickness with the same thickness. One being 1.25" and 1 being 1" thickness putting undue stress on 1.25" side with twisting in place - I will have to find another 1" if that is the correct one, which I think it is. Ideas? Challanges, challenges. Thanks in advance. Joel Martin _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/genepadgett@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 11:54:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4117042997 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:54:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qe0-f48.google.com (mail-qe0-f48.google.com [209.85.128.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD3DE4255D for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:53:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qe0-f48.google.com with SMTP id 2so959787qea.7 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:51:07 -0700 (PDT) h=x-received:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=qK+oMcpTZVM9h86gWCWA6zr7+jsnEZhnqhxMEF3GOzM=; b=MmfC+qtECvGDupAXl2vPe80/Ui0JTp+v7GPhO4bmrZARETZ8YmJFW+yHccM8+Q8++m FJam/5n81+wptCfFDolNd1IBtItt9OkXg/0KQ3pLK3OMQuQIDJv+J9WWW06CAyN4bWgV j3XZsIBcpkykK8+zUA/Rajv3gZ5Rmgt18yATw= d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=qK+oMcpTZVM9h86gWCWA6zr7+jsnEZhnqhxMEF3GOzM=; b=IB4Q5V7TNNC6QPcwbJnm4A6ptXGL8MyFnGjKvX48ScFcLimCIt1BBPH5urCAuDQnGh 1xkb4qStzIa8hsABY3BgUBhyVAwwXvv/FxJfPzXXG0e0ratfCt27Od7fL5fd7dfwsiaD PlKTo8u9JSOfIHdH4XNHHosEZPYhX0zegW2GirKtEjRnk5SSvU1gfwVjPUmMxKmLp58k Gk31MSQLljznWIfw2MxSNtM9fZnEy3e9qhc6yW4xuV8dvzDgn7u04yDTff47nH6ixX8S CaclbbzBPgDtCzl/PReW1hmSTrbqQbnxXg6bn5/98ZMWzry7ERdlBbi+jwXOw8LDq3Xb zYPA== x26mr1336789qcg.88.1364147466797; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:51:06 -0700 (PDT) References: <1F2689663EE441ADA9447901A1D8728C@ronpc1> From: Dave Munroe Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 14:51:06 -0300 To: "" Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Seats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Ron: I do have Joe Parlenti's excellent piece on recovering seats here on my bench. Its clear that my seats are Sunbeam, as they match all the others that I have seen at shows and other gatherings, including the hardware that adjusts the seat back angle etc. The problem is the foam I got from SS, while identical in appearance to that which came out of my seats, is approx 11/2" larger all around the perimeter. The new SS covers are made to fit the SS foam, so are too large for my seat frame. So I m hoping someone can tell me what seat frame I have in the hopes that there are some ready made covers for them. Perhaps they are from an earlier model Alpine? (The covers I removed because of wear were custom made and looked exactly like original Tiger seat covers, but much better constructed with heavier vinyl and improved stitching methods. it killed me to have to remove them.) Thanks for your help Ron. Dave Sent from my iPad On 2013-03-24, at 12:59 PM, Ron Fraser wrote: > Dave > I don't see any information in the Parts List about seat frames for > the Tiger. > > Maybe the 1st question should be - do you have the correct seat frames? Are > they Sunbeam seats or something else? > > There should be a tech article on Tigers United about restoring seats that > may help you. > > Ron Fraser > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Dave Munroe > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:24 AM > To: undisclosed-recipients: > Cc: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Seats > > > Good morning Tiger gurus: > > Do any of you know how many seat-back frame versions that were installed in > the Tiger over the tears? > > My car came with a custom-made interior based on the seat-back covers with > the "flap" center section. I ordered and received from SS a new set of foams > for the "center flap" style of seat back, but, while these foams are things > of beauty they are considerably too large for the seat-back frames that came > in my car... > > Did Rootes change the size of these frames at some point? > > Thanks for your help... > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6195 - Release Date: 03/21/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 12:57:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB1EA425B8 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 12:57:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm9-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm9-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.249]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A719540532 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 12:45:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.193] by nm9.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Mar 2013 18:43:09 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.121] by tm4.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Mar 2013 18:43:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1026.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Mar 2013 18:43:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 20645 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Mar 2013 18:43:09 -0000 s=s1024; t=1364150589; bh=Mi9Zw5JqZTJdy/rwaBhH9ova5DlIZnftQ9TvXjt+oeE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=y3h460HlQGTTSwNn/L+FNOlcffqRwC3QSBmpRul90xtAyqPI4XqgW475lvCOyX4hRZWp8fd6jhdf5pKX24hnt+ZSALDsK4aPlE0XmtH+ft0Py8yg02218UvPsFpjgJIZXjJ92+ONVTyBsqY4pL8Va37euImP6FtJIyppADYD1e4= s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=IpPbEH8MSOB1mFDayBa1jqOUGhJ0SmpM5HH/tBEHDhvkrirsYKszJMjVWxFT5NKCYeZFlgcLb2TPKpu67OJXRSQnNmwS9VpllC8DOEpEEuNuWyBIGFwVBHMdUlDMZkT8v7Tn70PXdDmZHrvUYAkP7tEtR3NhgTZz1Oxb/SiQ/UI=; p.fjU99XPJwuGp8E.X6SsH5AbBPPDyN4Ran68WgODSwFsImnXLvs.TXI7nJT oO6kxPjiCv76W8Gno8SoeNRBKKaXXgkaotpK7B8KGFbQGKa04i1gHeli9lKi OAAJ2CpxNyme99scnVcJvlfNEw4T.O6PHAlH5WaJreHTryFHGbrE5z0koOe3 IF0_rLrESL8IC0wx8b4sTSDqdAymYjpwYXNNzUT5f_kEr2TjAH7jI_4UvrDB 8smzYpzjtDyay4.SkUA7bO5mx7N0fP977lIrugi46_qUwTHJwPEH7D.9O2k0 es5G34oZ9_Uq22J1DZ4nFiRl_sYgr_5IQsottglFIAHIJb2Z8QmdL7N.XnAi bCZSBMfXBTGYHZYlfAFsNRAXYFB__eX8F.EJjDGCntkj0w8XlU4fxQtn9ihN dWZe3nBzyaxOSHEUvZRNpV1s7R_id.rOG0A7oLq0ERTwmPuwD4R27L9Vjq8t 117PRYDAAZMTBy.UDCpYI5DmIjbSuVRbGnWgVN6fP7lj0g3bJQu9LvR99lyB XVVx_Llir96dH5QuxsllKkJpLWnOe...o4einJ106Z.hZ2TMAESJ8RH4gYej K_veSStgNWBc6i7oyykpx5_B_8zYkAQTSuyrCp76szsZNr.oWfJhDQ2zSLfA kUATPGsOpi7IvLkZU33Ff.N0MuB4pA45XKuPr1VfQ6indaBLCfYGjjk_gyUJ UhR1yh3awRPiQEUacuvL2v9IyY4A2rQemHoOK Received: from [108.69.45.118] by web184401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:43:09 PDT SGVyZSBpcyBhb3RoZXIsIHRoaXMgaXMgYWJvdXQgdGhlIHRoaW5lc3QgYWRhcHRlciBJIGhhdmUgZm91bmQuIEl0J3MgcHJpY3kgKG92ZXIgCnByaWNlZCksIGJ1dCBzaW1pbGFyIHRvIHdoYXQgQm9iIGhhcyBsaW5rZWQgdG8uIEFsc28gaGl0IHVwIHN1bW1pdCByYWNpbmcgdGhleSAKaGF2ZSBhIHRvbiBvZiB0aGVtIGFzIHdlbGwsIGJ1dCB3aGF0IG91dCBmb3IgdGhpY2tuZXNzIEkgcmVjYWxsIHRoYXQgbWF5IGJlIGEgCnByb2JsZW0gd2l0aCBzb21lIGluc3RhbGxhdGlvbnMuCgpodHRwOi8vd3d3LnByb2QBMAEBAQE- References: <1364142754.66208.YahooMailClassic@web124704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <04C0467BA3204113BE64753056F17111@bob> Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:43:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Sandy Ganz To: Bob Hokanson , Tigers , Joel Martin Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Here is aother, this is about the thinest adapter I have found. It's pricy (over priced), but similar to what Bob has linked to. Also hit up summit racing they have a ton of them as well, but what out for thickness I recall that may be a problem with some installations. http://www.product-engr.com/Ford_oilAdapter.htm I have this one as well as the thicker (larger fittings) Canton-Mecca one. The Product Engineering version is much thinner and the fitting sizes are limited to a max of -10 as I recall so perfect for the Tiger. For starters as mentioned their are several that are mini and ultra-mini. I don't know any mini-starters for the SBF that does not use the solenoid on the starter (ie, one with a bendix drive). Also their are a few styles that may help with header clearance, if you go to summit racing online and search for the starters you will see a few different configurations of the mini-stater and that might help with any fitment issues. It's pretty easy to wire them up and work a lot better the the old heavy ford starter. Also make sure they have a BUNCH of holes for clocking the starter in any position. I have used some in the past that give you only a few sets and as always they never align up (It's easy to redrill and set up to any position in most cases). Have fun cursing the header install, I don't ever think I have got away scott free with them just droping in on the many projects over the years. One consolation is when you first start it up, makes the trouble worth it! Sandy ----- Original Message ---- From: Bob Hokanson To: Tigers ; Joel Martin Sent: Sun, March 24, 2013 10:20:21 AM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter Question Something like this? http://www.landlproducts.com/details.aspx?cID=9&BP=0&scID=0&ItemID=1020 Bob H ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Martin" To: Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:32 AM Subject: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter Question Is there a part > that moves BOTH the inlet and outlet hoses to the front of the car as opposed > to the center and front outlet configuration. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sganz@pacbell.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 19:44:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42056424DE for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 19:44:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (fed1rmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4914540549 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 19:40:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo109 ([68.230.241.158]) by fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130325013845.EDWK18627.fed1rmfepo202.cox.net@fed1rmimpo109> for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 21:38:45 -0400 Received: from fed1rmwml304 ([172.18.140.217]) by fed1rmimpo109 with cox id Fdek1l00K4hdPEs01dekqd; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 21:38:45 -0400 a=ZhPAqvP18NOZotFba0T7pg==:17 a=23NfIvlgGLAA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=G4utBrD1QF4A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=ECUvcRiq0VoA:10 a=19ZeaMB3AAAA:8 a=6Vo-1L_zAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=bkpK6_ix-HDNEgQN7OsA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=lt56dswSBq4A:10 a=8PN386UdiRUA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=ZhPAqvP18NOZotFba0T7pg==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 72.197.184.155 by webmail.west.cox.net; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 1:38:44 +0000 Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 18:38:44 -0700 From: To: Joel Martin , Tigers , Bob Hokanson Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net That adapter will be too thick to fit between the block and headers. Ask me how I know. Dale A sells an adapter that is thin and has AN6 or AN8 threads on the side. It fits great. Erich ---- Bob Hokanson wrote: > Something like this? > > http://www.landlproducts.com/details.aspx?cID=9&BP=0&scID=0&ItemID=1020 > > Bob H > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joel Martin" > To: > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:32 AM > Subject: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter Question > > > Is there a part > > that moves BOTH the inlet and outlet hoses to the front of the car as > > opposed > > to the center and front outlet configuration. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/e.coiner@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 24 20:34:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F975424C0 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 20:34:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from db3outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (db3ehsobe001.messaging.microsoft.com [213.199.154.139]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE6E40412 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 20:34:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail14-db3-R.bigfish.com (10.3.81.250) by DB3EHSOBE004.bigfish.com (10.3.84.24) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 02:32:12 +0000 Received: from mail14-db3 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail14-db3-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95053A0149; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 02:32:12 +0000 (UTC) H:edgetransport.garmin.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: fail (mail14-db3: domain of dynastream.com does not designate 204.77.163.11 as permitted sender) client-ip=204.77.163.11; envelope-from=Theo.Smit@dynastream.com; helo=edgetransport.garmin.com ;t.garmin.com ; Received: from mail14-db3 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail14-db3 (MessageSwitch) id 1364178729171947_15298; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 02:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DB3EHSMHS002.bigfish.com (unknown [10.3.81.229]) by mail14-db3.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 276D52A00A5; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 02:32:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edgetransport.garmin.com (204.77.163.11) by DB3EHSMHS002.bigfish.com (10.3.87.102) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 02:32:08 +0000 Received: from OLAWPA-EXHT02.ad.garmin.com (10.5.32.180) by edgetransport.garmin.com (192.168.18.223) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.342.3; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 21:32:44 -0500 Received: from OLAWPA-EXMB05.ad.garmin.com ([169.254.6.100]) by OLAWPA-EXHT02.ad.garmin.com ([10.5.32.180]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Sun, 24 Mar 2013 21:32:04 -0500 From: "Smit, Theo" To: "e.coiner@cox.net" , Joel Martin , Tigers Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter Question Thread-Index: AQHOKK1KLFTn8qs15Eav8LxHdiEz25i1FmBWgADfDwD//7aPsA== Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 02:32:04 +0000 References: <04C0467BA3204113BE64753056F17111@bob> <20130325013845.H4BO1.117915.imail@fed1rmwml304> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.50.8.1] Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Apparently there is some variation in the different headers over the years. I initially bought the Canton adapter, found that to be too tall to fit, then bought the Product Engineering one (through Dale - his adapter is Product Engineering's part), and while it's beautiful, it was (at 1 1/4") still too tall to give me positive clearance to that header tube. I ended up making one out of a block of aluminum with a 1" height under the header tube, and that works. My adapter has an internal nut so that nothing sticks out above the adapter body. The front of the adapter has a 30 degree kickout so that the -10 AN fittings and oil hoses clear the steering linkage without kinking them. Internally I set up the passages similar to the Canton adapter... there's just a lot less margin everywhere. Lot of work to design and make, though. If the Product Engineering part works, then that's great, and at $150 direct or $160 from Dale's it's a bargain compared to rolling your own. Don't forget that this is a relatively low-volume part you're buying. Besides these adapters there's the Ford right-angle adapter for their Econoline vans. I don't know if that will work for you? If you can find one at an autowrecker then it's going to be cheap enough relative to the alternatives that you can try it and see without putting a significant dent in your budget compared to the alternatives. Theo > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers- > bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of e.coiner@cox.net > Sent: March 24, 2013 7:39 PM > To: Joel Martin; Tigers; Bob Hokanson > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter > Question > > That adapter will be too thick to fit between the block and headers. > Ask me how I know. > Dale A sells an adapter that is thin and has AN6 or AN8 threads on the > side. It fits great. > Erich > ---- Bob Hokanson wrote: > > Something like this? > > > > > http://www.landlproducts.com/details.aspx?cID=9&BP=0&scID=0&ItemID=102 > > 0 > > > > Bob H > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joel Martin" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:32 AM > > Subject: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter > > Question > > > > > > Is there a part > > > that moves BOTH the inlet and outlet hoses to the front of the car > > > as opposed to the center and front outlet configuration. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/e.coiner@cox.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/theo.smit@dynastream.com > > ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. 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Thank you. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 25 07:35:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CC140E22 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 07:35:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37A740409 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 07:34:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Larry-Paulicks-MacBook-Pro.local ([unknown] [96.244.79.85]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MK700JZZXMPAF70@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 08:32:50 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 09:32:49 -0400 From: Larry Paulick User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 To: tigers@autox.team.net References: <20130325013845.H4BO1.117915.imail@fed1rmwml304> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I used a a Perma-Cool oil filter adapter, available from most any aftermarket auto house, with Summit being my favorite. The part # 771-1211, and the cost is $15. Fits headers from Rick, with slight grinding of the adaptor. Larry On 3/24/13 9:38 PM, e.coiner@cox.net wrote: > That adapter will be too thick to fit between the block and headers. Ask me how I know. > Dale A sells an adapter that is thin and has AN6 or AN8 threads on the side. It fits great. > Erich > ---- Bob Hokanson wrote: >> Something like this? >> >> http://www.landlproducts.com/details.aspx?cID=9&BP=0&scID=0&ItemID=1020 >> >> Bob H >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Joel Martin" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:32 AM >> Subject: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter Question >> >> >> Is there a part >>> that moves BOTH the inlet and outlet hoses to the front of the car as >>> opposed >>> to the center and front outlet configuration. >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/e.coiner@cox.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/lpaulick1@verizon.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 25 07:47:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF4D40443 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 07:47:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da01.mx.aol.com (imr-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8983240409 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 07:46:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-da01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5ACE81C0001E6 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 09:44:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dta005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dta005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.162.145]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id F236DE000087 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 09:44:28 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net From: veeseeoso@aol.com Received: from 50.151.177.229 by Webmail-d116.sysops.aol.com (205.188.168.99) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 25 Mar 2013 09:44:28 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 09:44:28 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364219069; bh=KFm41CTCpHNpeQYNU+g8iVVff8CaPiSsDTkpj7H0mgs=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=P6uctZGH3Gy+EY+VefCyomfEcudjHxpGAVTmqPH5u2lqehKvDAAW2fvsgxn44uYB8 mDZfv3Xk226HFnbqmiRtXwjl2XUDxy7lejSHysBMTVV31leOdAD2gXmeHi5/oninUX c/y9AudTgq07uMaFum0bxD7f98erIyriHUnmyKEM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d515054bc774c Subject: [Tigers] Windy City SAAC Innagural Show May 2013 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Listers, Good news for our Chicagoland area Shelby enthusiasts. It seems as if a Chicago area Shelby American Automobile Club is (re)born! Windy City SAAC Inaugral Show @ Autobahn Country Club Joliet Directions here: http://www.autobahncc.com/information.html Spring Get Together at the Autobahn May 11th at the Autobahn Country Club, 3795 Centerpoint Way, Joliet, IL. Show n' Shine starts @10am, we'll let cars in @ 9am. $5 per person gate fee, 13 and younger free with paid adult.. Participants cars will have an opportunity to tour their cars on the track. We will be doing this at around noon. More info here: http://saacforum.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=jh9usev2gl2mh27p32tnr6d5q5&topic=217 48.0 Let's have a nice Tiger representation, Henry V _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 25 12:31:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC46140443 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:31:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A763040078 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:30:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.200]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 146191C000119 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 14:28:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dqc002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.161.133]) by mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 2844FE00009C for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 14:28:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Rollright@aol.com Full-name: Rollright Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 14:28:36 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364236116; bh=zPNDSm26zyltAoRfhLky+Qx5OybqECljq9ysCYIcg58=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=p0zIfHuJnEQi4eKsV6EJZBgqOGATzEx65x2lM+ATohWP5+H32hRZNwl+4wYmRqGxK o+6DsWC2R/rOpulQqloQ6KzXXtzFiAHnwgATOI4yIJKMtJ+0tRUDDmVFjfVLIQy6/J jyDGPQE9sAry3nzYH5qs/TQikLVckau6jEaTn5DY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c8515097547bcc Subject: [Tigers] UNF screws on Sunbeam Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hello, The state of Massachusetts is forcing everyone off single licence plates onto twins. Arrgh Pardon my ignorance on the subject, but in restoring the front stock licence plate bracket, I found (and looked up in the parts manual), (4) #8 UNF 5/8' machine screws, countersunk. I went to the hardware store and found the #8s they had 'jammed' on the nuts that came on the bracket. So I looked in the parts manual again and found "#8 UNF 5/8". At home, I had my trusty Eastwood screw-checker and both originals and new were #8. New were 32 thread but the ones old wouldn't fit the 32, 36 or 40 thread check spots though the 40 seemed most happy. What the heck is going on? And no, they certainly aren't 2BA screws. BTW; the Rootes part number is 39112101. "Body mountings" section; late version of the licence plate bracket. In closing, again, pardon my ignorance but I thought I know something about small hardware. Apparently not. Help. Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Mar 25 12:53:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D67B40531 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:53:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from db8outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (mail-db8lp0185.outbound.messaging.microsoft.com [213.199.154.185]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66946403E2 for ; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:49:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail3-db8-R.bigfish.com (10.174.8.246) by DB8EHSOBE008.bigfish.com (10.174.4.71) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 18:47:04 +0000 Received: from mail3-db8 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail3-db8-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79B37C019A; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 18:47:03 +0000 (UTC) H:edgetransport.garmin.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: fail (mail3-db8: domain of dynastream.com does not designate 204.77.163.11 as permitted sender) client-ip=204.77.163.11; envelope-from=Theo.Smit@dynastream.com; helo=edgetransport.garmin.com ;t.garmin.com ; Received: from mail3-db8 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail3-db8 (MessageSwitch) id 1364237222409323_24018; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 18:47:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DB8EHSMHS006.bigfish.com (unknown [10.174.8.228]) by mail3-db8.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554841A0051; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 18:47:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edgetransport.garmin.com (204.77.163.11) by DB8EHSMHS006.bigfish.com (10.174.4.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.23; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 18:46:59 +0000 Received: from OLAWPA-EXHT04.ad.garmin.com (10.5.32.182) by edgetransport.garmin.com (192.168.18.224) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.342.3; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:47:06 -0500 Received: from OLAWPA-EXMB05.ad.garmin.com ([169.254.6.100]) by OLAWPA-EXHT04.ad.garmin.com ([10.5.32.182]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Mon, 25 Mar 2013 13:46:57 -0500 From: "Smit, Theo" To: "Rollright@aol.com" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] UNF screws on Sunbeam Thread-Index: AQHOKYaZDWCcZO8VekypFpIa2/H3dJi2vMkg Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 18:46:56 +0000 References: <1845b.cd23670.3e81f153@aol.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.50.8.1] Subject: Re: [Tigers] UNF screws on Sunbeam Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net 8-UNF is supposed to be 36 TPI according to the charts. The major diameter is 0.164" and minor is 0.1339. That's in a range where you could probably use M4 x 0.7 screws and they'd thread right in. 36 thread per inch is a pitch (in metric) of 0.7055mm . Theo > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers- > bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com > Sent: March 25, 2013 12:29 PM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] UNF screws on Sunbeam > > Hello, > > > The state of Massachusetts is forcing everyone off single licence > plates onto twins. Arrgh > > Pardon my ignorance on the subject, but in restoring the front stock > licence plate bracket, I found (and looked up in the parts manual), > (4) #8 UNF > 5/8' machine screws, countersunk. > > I went to the hardware store and found the #8s they had 'jammed' on the > nuts that came on the bracket. > So I looked in the parts manual again and found "#8 UNF 5/8". > > At home, I had my trusty Eastwood screw-checker and both originals and > new were #8. New were 32 thread but the ones old wouldn't fit the 32, > 36 or 40 thread check spots though the 40 seemed most happy. > > What the heck is going on? And no, they certainly aren't 2BA screws. > > BTW; the Rootes part number is 39112101. "Body mountings" section; late > version of the licence plate bracket. > > In closing, again, pardon my ignorance but I thought I know something > about small hardware. Apparently not. > > Help. > > Jim Armstrong > Mk 1A > 382002083 > LRXFE > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/theo.smit@dynastream.com > > ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete the message. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this communication (including attachments) by someone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Thank you. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 26 10:11:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1654C42811 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:11:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f42.google.com (mail-pb0-f42.google.com [209.85.160.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAAA403E4 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 10:11:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f42.google.com with SMTP id xb4so4817879pbc.29 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:09:35 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=7vT8H3+9sMwyi1FT3OA2eAeaBZnIFNJgzZYOepUDWeo=; b=LhFp4pv9KQOSf0GNPOiWOfjCYc1drQ2b16VAZ9con0yi4V1cmylw0eN4QEw94+Bcgr 6EA6wR7nHIw/vmHBXzlErcI3/lR4qHVPEitR5dMt7N+05JOYnLJjD18Cli4jVbW6tWF/ PphlhY4DFnI5uWPbuahnAPpgyiO9qhFOscF4cMM4xY42CXwwgvH0Wnx5obzfq8s4ov5Z SuiGjxZpNp9moYlyMPNwlf3KXOKx4mbcLjUSXG/QEMUg9ZMkR+WJbF5EK9bn3pLQu7b7 UMTmVT5G596X4UsfQIUO4DjPY3gHfw6U8Pf3KUg7FXDM/dYd07bzxDzBBc9S0i2ToOCT M34g== aj12mr24438795pac.31.1364314174797; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.68.176 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 09:09:34 -0700 (PDT) References: <1364142754.66208.YahooMailClassic@web124704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <04C0467BA3204113BE64753056F17111@bob> <1364150589.19671.YahooMailRC@web184401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:09:34 -0400 From: Alexander Washick To: Sandy Ganz Cc: Joel Martin , Tigers Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter Question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I used the Canton 23-682 adapter and I have SS headers. I had to grind about 3/8 of aluminum off one corner and that did the job. Moroso also makes one now #23-682. Go to Ebay and enter remote oil filter adapters and you have many choices for suppliers in a much cheaper range $75-95. Make sure your inlet is 3/4 NPT. I would not use less than 1/2 NPT outlets for the size + the adapters you would need at the remote filter mount which are also 1/2 NPT. Al On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Sandy Ganz wrote: > Here is aother, this is about the thinest adapter I have found. It's pricy > (over > priced), but similar to what Bob has linked to. Also hit up summit > racing they > have a ton of them as well, but what out for thickness I recall > that may be a > problem with some installations. > http://www.product-engr.com/Ford_oilAdapter.htm > > I have this one as well as > the thicker (larger fittings) Canton-Mecca one. The > Product Engineering > version is much thinner and the fitting sizes are limited to > a max of -10 as > I recall so perfect for the Tiger. > > For starters as mentioned their are > several that are mini and ultra-mini. I > don't know any mini-starters for the > SBF that does not use the solenoid on the > starter (ie, one with a bendix > drive). Also their are a few styles that may help > with header clearance, if > you go to summit racing online and search for the > starters you will see a few > different configurations of the mini-stater and that > might help with any > fitment issues. It's pretty easy to wire them up and work a > lot better the > the old heavy ford starter. Also make sure they have a BUNCH of > holes for > clocking the starter in any position. I have used some in the past > that give > you only a few sets and as always they never align up (It's easy to > redrill > and set up to any position in most cases). > > Have fun cursing the header > install, I don't ever think I have got away scott > free with them just droping > in on the many projects over the years. One > consolation is when you first > start it up, makes the trouble worth it! > > Sandy > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Bob Hokanson > To: Tigers ; > Joel Martin > Sent: Sun, March 24, 2013 10:20:21 AM > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter Question > Something like this? > http://www.landlproducts.com/details.aspx?cID=9&BP=0&scID=0&ItemID=1020 > > Bob H > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joel Martin" > To: > > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 9:32 AM > Subject: [Tigers] > Brake Fluid Capacity and Hi - Torque Starter Question > > > Is there a part > > that > moves BOTH the inlet and outlet hoses to the front of the car as opposed > > to > the center and front outlet configuration. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sganz@pacbell.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/alw6464@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Mar 26 19:11:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B37F34042D for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:11:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.bemta14.messagelabs.com (mail1.bemta14.messagelabs.com [193.109.254.105]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EEBE4006D for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:10:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [85.158.140.211:30412] by server-1.bemta-14.messagelabs.com id 58/F4-22449-E9642515; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 01:08:46 +0000 Received: (qmail 27343 invoked from network); 27 Mar 2013 01:08:45 -0000 Received: from mailgate2.akzonobel.com (HELO mailgate2.akzonobel.com) (144.95.74.8) by server-7.tower-194.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 27 Mar 2013 01:08:45 -0000 Received: from AMDN805.d30.intra ([10.13.175.29]) by mailgate2.akzonobel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 27 Mar 2013 02:08:44 +0100 Received: from AMDCG61.d30.intra ([10.14.40.71]) by AMDN805.d30.intra ([10.13.175.29]) with mapi; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 02:08:45 +0100 From: "Ronak, T.P. (Timothy)" To: "alw6464@gmail.com" Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 02:08:48 +0100 Thread-Topic: Oil Line adapters Thread-Index: Ac4qh6MShqV87aglRsa3zsbwhze12Q== Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US FILETIME=[A0EA3C20:01CE2A87] Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Oil Line adapters Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I was fortunate enough to find one that worked with minor massaging but one thing that troubled me was the sharp edges at the internal turns in the adapter and worked to radius all of the edges and turns to minimize the effects of a liquid aerating as it passes over a sharp edge under pressure. I did the same level of massaging to both the block and any other line connection. Best Regards, Tim Ronak Senior Services Consultant AkzoNobel Automotive and Aerospace Coatings NA 23961 Via El Rocio Mission Viejo, CA 92691 Ph: (949) 289-3357 Fx: (425) 955-6268 "If a man dwells on the past, then he robs the present. But if a man ignores the past, he may rob the future. The seeds of our destiny are nurtured by the roots of our past." Master Po - TV's Kung Fu Information contained in this email is confidential. If you received this email in error please delete this message and inform the sender. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 06:44:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7964140420 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 06:44:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249DE4006C for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 06:43:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id DA25B1C0000B9; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:41:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dqd002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqd002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.162.5]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A6733E000085; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:41:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Rollright@aol.com Full-name: Rollright Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 08:41:20 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364388080; bh=Jn+q58DLZA9JzKjkPUY1sbJttYKMuQ70gdeQRvG1MKo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EpjoLpvXuwut1gSXzzXfMa4ifeHBe+oH+wj3Eet1FJS2SnV6LW8ESyNPkvwrQXWzY 32/jL35Yp8ie+3PUv2Ds6JOGe4HTspVfz0YwbGOAD+Fv3rhRmmHcqt5EeRT+/pfvpm EiYFC/Xvz9z2v24IS8k9zpvUq/agXYF6gSdt+hcA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d5152e8f00e2d Cc: James.Morris@orh.nhs.uk, pghindle@btinternet.com, onegonefish@comcast.net, rupertrich@yahoo.com Subject: [Tigers] Mike Hawthorne drives you around Le Mans 1956 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net This is an unusual opportunity to be driven around Le Mans by Team Jaguar driver Mike Hawthorne in a D type Jaguar in 1956. Black and white with audio commentary. The microphone rig is certainly period... What a long course! So many bicycles! Enjoy _http://vimeo.com/59410466_ (http://vimeo.com/59410466) Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 14:00:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3BAB4052E for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:00:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm7-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm7-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.250]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B8814041C for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:00:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.53] by nm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Mar 2013 19:57:59 -0000 Received: from [98.138.86.156] by tm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Mar 2013 19:57:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1014.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Mar 2013 19:57:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 70487 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Mar 2013 19:57:59 -0000 s=s1024; t=1364414279; bh=vj+5wK1xZA/5PNER6Lw0Y3Nu0W7TWbklx0w/jpx9RXk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=tZpu2AMuBRbi+MRHgHzDnJeL/f0sx0YAnIFDTXKCxJHYmAu1Fb9FmJAMMMb6ymohDG/KHsMp1O3qxXiQ7Ri8Q4izO18nfWcGda63Ngwr/S+fKdarXT9kmU/zJkdhKcxNtnwAg0c3NDCxYNwwI/BeiF9tvhDu9iidGazRke0dx1U= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AfqnzipCZkbhIiMvVDwy9zQvAPRT7sJawKuFB7YF3mKhZwBOOpSvIPtw/mot+LxPkzXRRJQxQFJeCIaCh+YiRU0L4hlKbCA24wm7c9jfq+evUkcnvP7ICL+P1svrPbpSl5xgvFRAUIkjyRq4VFTQnWmYs45gPeBs3qL25n/mCf0=; UAqlHqD7Ga0ZU6f3ZeLDVQN7Dwfy3gl38GmgKxPV804S1Z5csxTZR69bfQ23 USzibsZDwDXoXLQL5PziGlLUI_PZoWQYEzBj2eVjQ.cUqNPLcOPLSfRDOKJT mYA2p_kfvd97th18GQvAQi.w8fblw_gsV_E7ES9lHWqTcl7dTh4iaAOVuUc. bDptqqVVKkA5zPuWVFY5rbZIBaNBxFroHBy0MlQtBYUEmFv3ccUnKP5KPrid Td4Rw2rmo9fbkdknFJwjruPp6w6FXURsts.dOV1s5i2ioTrlEjqyJ5t.p0oq _8H2E1GTfKAdzGP5DwBUzxkdZvI7W5vxlo23bJeP_aseeCQFULJgkDD0VecC yx7Xpo.B_hzYLGMRNBZOqZlr2X_3f62qpwE5yvObtTeb.xrTZHXBTxkjUPfO BJ9wVmGTskwCKN9udHPIh9A_SYtUmAXGZbieFbDzHbv.wK9IuXlabcOsV1Gn k Received: from [170.139.252.252] by web124702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:57:59 PDT V2hhdCBpcyB0aGUgYmVzdCB3YXkgdG8gc2VjdXJlXHB1cmNoYXNlXG1ha2UgdGhlIG9pbCBmaWx0ZXIgaG9zZXMgYW5kIGZpdHRpbmdzP8KgIEFwcGVhcnMgdGhlIGZpdHRpbmdzIHdlcmUgMy80IGZpbmUgMTggaW52ZXJ0ZWQuwqAgT3B0aW9ucz_CoCBTb3VyY2VzPw0KwqANCldpdGggcHJlc3N1cmUsIGFwcGVhcnMgbWluZSBhcmUgbGVha2luZyBhbmQgd291bGQgbGlrZSBuZXcuLg0KwqANClRoYW5rcw0KSm9lbAEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 12:57:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Joel Martin To: Tiger List Serve Subject: [Tigers] Oil Filter hoses\fittings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net What is the best way to secure\purchase\make the oil filter hoses and fittings? Appears the fittings were 3/4 fine 18 inverted. Options? Sources? With pressure, appears mine are leaking and would like new.. Thanks Joel _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 14:09:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8EA40526 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:09:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66D394041C for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 14:09:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta003.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r2RK2ZFD012071; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 13:07:04 -0700 Received: by dm0219.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 401896c7) id dm0219.51526844.2c28f; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 13:06:56 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Joel Martin'" , "'Tiger List Serve'" Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 16:06:18 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4rJW4Gza6E3AV2RfGq1Vi4A8FWHwAAIBnQ engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-27_07:2013-03-26,2013-03-27,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1211240000 definitions=main-1303270201 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Oil Filter hoses\fittings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Joel I took my lines to a shop that made hydraulic lines. The problem is no one used similar style hose fittings so they did not look right to my eye. I used them until I purchased and installed a right angle oil filter adaptor. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Martin Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 3:58 PM To: Tiger List Serve Subject: [Tigers] Oil Filter hoses\fittings What is the best way to secure\purchase\make the oil filter hoses and fittings? Appears the fittings were 3/4 fine 18 inverted. Options? Sources? With pressure, appears mine are leaking and would like new.. Thanks Joel _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6202 - Release Date: 03/24/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 17:56:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C244282E for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:56:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0206.b.hostedemail.com [64.98.42.206]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18F64038C for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:54:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay06.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 058EB8D238; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 23:52:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from RedBudAdminPC (unknown [72.168.166.134]) (Authenticated sender: jimmc13@hughes.net) by omf13.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 23:51:58 +0000 (UTC) From: "jimmc13" To: "'Dave Munroe'" , References: <1F2689663EE441ADA9447901A1D8728C@ronpc1> <5501737781866131873@unknownmsgid> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:52:23 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac4ouFCAbaS1VxtZS6eSIB0BclcULgCjASIA Subject: Re: [Tigers] Seats Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, (et al); Well you got me going as I have 2 brand new UK67 seat back foam cushions from SS. So I got home from work and pulled one out and grabbed one of my powder coated seat backs. And the foam will be a perfect fit. I pressed it into the curve of the frame and it appears like it will mold perfectly with the sections of cardboard I have. Also, I saved my old seats parts to help with re-covering. I have experience with Series III-V Alpines and Mark 1 and 1a Tigers having had a 1965 and now a 1966, Rootes was efficient in the use of parts and the seats did not change much over the manufacture of these cars. The seats had differences in the amount of pleats and whether or not they were vertical or horizontal. The frames esp the backs are very simple when bare. All this being said, I would tell you that I have been looking for help to finish the seats and have talked to at least 6 interior folks. I have found that foam can be cut and sanded to shape by someone that can re-upholster the seats. While I am still looking for someone, I am temped to do this myself because of what I see. Still do not know how to cut and sand though. Could send pix of the frame backs if you wish. Jim McLaughlin B382000175 -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Munroe Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 12:51 PM To: Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Seats Thanks Ron: I do have Joe Parlenti's excellent piece on recovering seats here on my bench. Its clear that my seats are Sunbeam, as they match all the others that I have seen at shows and other gatherings, including the hardware that adjusts the seat back angle etc. The problem is the foam I got from SS, while identical in appearance to that which came out of my seats, is approx 11/2" larger all around the perimeter. The new SS covers are made to fit the SS foam, so are too large for my seat frame. So I m hoping someone can tell me what seat frame I have in the hopes that there are some ready made covers for them. Perhaps they are from an earlier model Alpine? (The covers I removed because of wear were custom made and looked exactly like original Tiger seat covers, but much better constructed with heavier vinyl and improved stitching methods. it killed me to have to remove them.) Thanks for your help Ron. Dave Sent from my iPad On 2013-03-24, at 12:59 PM, Ron Fraser wrote: > Dave > I don't see any information in the Parts List about seat frames for > the Tiger. > > Maybe the 1st question should be - do you have the correct seat frames? Are > they Sunbeam seats or something else? > > There should be a tech article on Tigers United about restoring seats that > may help you. > > Ron Fraser > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Dave Munroe > Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2013 10:24 AM > To: undisclosed-recipients: > Cc: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Seats > > > Good morning Tiger gurus: > > Do any of you know how many seat-back frame versions that were installed in > the Tiger over the tears? > > My car came with a custom-made interior based on the seat-back covers with > the "flap" center section. I ordered and received from SS a new set of foams > for the "center flap" style of seat back, but, while these foams are things > of beauty they are considerably too large for the seat-back frames that came > in my car... > > Did Rootes change the size of these frames at some point? > > Thanks for your help... > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6195 - Release Date: 03/21/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimmc13@hughes.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 17:58:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4F35427D9 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:58:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E38440EB4 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:58:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ggxz1l0031GhbT854nwAuw; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 23:56:10 +0000 Received: from sbrennanPC ([98.229.210.30]) by omta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Gnw91l0180fu9Ni3TnwAiz; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 23:56:10 +0000 From: "Stu Brennan" To: , References: <41d3.761b666a.3e8442f0@aol.com> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 19:56:02 -0400 s=q20121106; t=1364428570; bh=TYiV3ku4IT+J5C7DrPhzIv4j9DMAjzJ2YkcI92Law4M=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=cl3BxAweIVrv5rR5LjCqShkeSK9udnoOxIhEmfggoI1USoGfIfEtMKGxq/BhdO6dF a/GkZqJWgGO10BjcXc8PEic7ov0ekt05JidawMK37IQdSDLdGUJEDjbgCtfwTdZ4w2 LPUquzfR71P8KBs1Z8fStV79t98BRt7vmBl1utcp67+cc3Z8yfQGPYPkGGbFop4BUE qCGyYnOzEfl4KzfF0lOgNYYnfuX9eptBBZiE+c4MiNlVWMS+4PxmdplnklDf61S/w7 +2w/KxZ8VRw0HD2jRMoXVRjNIsYUVa8e102mUeBafH29NJMeXnynFeur8D8QnR/uD0 zoXLZ7WXKro0g== Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mike Hawthorne drives you around Le Mans 1956 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net A fascinating video, thanks, Jim. Here's another, just mentioned in the Classic Motorsports forum. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVggt1fv34c Stu _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Mar 27 18:50:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5982842832 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:50:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f180.google.com (mail-qc0-f180.google.com [209.85.216.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF7442451 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 18:50:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id v28so3976125qcm.11 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:47:52 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=F8raIH9y2DmtqjnWE61dik6aIkufUNObpQuo+9Qja/Y=; b=no22vUMB1LN7GX9fBWEkbKupKaNE4oc2qvLovqg3plw7AbT2ep7Fnad7uTukv8n6Of rBYBmXLXE8eQlclLExN9jeULxUoT69T/bb5jYMpvqV76PaXf+v7wl3wqd1A97NBDcn8Y 3W0kbtlE3voBFz6xsNcZr/YRByKHx93Iyzg6rJZ/8VkcWS5qRAZshljuL8KqavF29yW1 PKtV0+A2GyivjCuyE7jZt5fOkLVSEBMaiWKYRbWME1PDMO1og2Wk9n/UhhL4okJuAU2x wClZAvY/rCt1r4U3s5ihRqsk304OrKnbzd+TkimGAnpngtQSeKPzI/63bg2z+hzgTVm2 v6Gw== a12mr15056815qai.16.1364431672604; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.64.164 with HTTP; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 17:47:52 -0700 (PDT) References: <1364414279.70233.YahooMailClassic@web124702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:47:52 -0400 From: Jeffery Randall To: rfraser@bluefrog.com Cc: Joel Martin , Tiger List Serve Subject: Re: [Tigers] Oil Filter hoses\fittings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sunbeam Specialties has them Jeff On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Ron Fraser wrote: > Joel > I took my lines to a shop that made hydraulic lines. > The problem is no one used similar style hose fittings so they did not look > right to my eye. > > I used them until I purchased and installed a right angle oil filter > adaptor. > > Ron Fraser > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Joel Martin > Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 3:58 PM > To: Tiger List Serve > Subject: [Tigers] Oil Filter hoses\fittings > > > What is the best way to secure\purchase\make the oil filter hoses and > fittings? Appears the fittings were 3/4 fine 18 inverted. Options? > Sources? > > With pressure, appears mine are leaking and would like new.. > > Thanks > Joel > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6202 - Release Date: 03/24/13 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jefferyrandall@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 09:07:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED28B42822 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:07:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from col0-omc2-s7.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc2-s7.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868AA403DA for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 09:07:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL127-DS25 ([65.55.34.72]) by col0-omc2-s7.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 29 Mar 2013 08:04:57 -0700 From: Wayne-MSN To: , "'Joel Martin'" , "'Tiger List Serve'" References: <1364414279.70233.YahooMailClassic@web124702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 10:46:11 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4siCQWm3LSiKDEQTW9Gy9KGv4RCAAAyAuw FILETIME=[C6B76910:01CE2C8E] Subject: Re: [Tigers] Oil Filter hoses\fittings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Guys: I replaced my hoses not too long ago seem to recall using air conditioning fittings to connect to the oil cooler - NOT hydraulic fittings. All continues to work just fine. One potential issue: the overall length of the air conditioning fittings is a little longer than the stock fittings. Not a problem but different. Cheers, Wayne -----Original Message----- From: Ron Fraser [mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 4:06 PM To: 'Joel Martin'; 'Tiger List Serve' Subject: Re: [Tigers] Oil Filter hoses\fittings Joel I took my lines to a shop that made hydraulic lines. The problem is no one used similar style hose fittings so they did not look right to my eye. I used them until I purchased and installed a right angle oil filter adaptor. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Martin Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 3:58 PM To: Tiger List Serve Subject: [Tigers] Oil Filter hoses\fittings What is the best way to secure\purchase\make the oil filter hoses and fittings? Appears the fittings were 3/4 fine 18 inverted. Options? Sources? With pressure, appears mine are leaking and would like new.. Thanks Joel _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 2641/6202 - Release Date: 03/24/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Mar 29 12:38:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CAA142943 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:38:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from thecia.net (opcenter.thecia.net [208.218.131.20]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD39428E6 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 12:35:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from thecia.net ([208.218.131.20]) by smtp.thecia.net; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:33:02 -0400 From: "rande" To: tigers@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 14:33:02 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Tigers - TAC inspection in New England Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, The latest info for the New England TAC inspection session is that it will be held near the Albany NY airport, and the date we're trying to close on is May 11, 2013, a Saturday. We have a location, we're still trying to confirm enough inspectors. We have five persons interested in having their cars inspected. I'll keep everyone updated when we have further details. Thanks for everyones patience. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 30 16:05:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A666F4040E for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 16:05:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D109403D0 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 16:02:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.98]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HvGJ1l00F27AodY53y0FEn; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 22:00:15 +0000 Received: from sbrennanPC ([98.229.210.30]) by omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Hy0F1l00Z0fu9Ni3fy0F3m; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 22:00:15 +0000 From: "Stu Brennan" To: "Tiger Net" Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:00:10 -0400 s=q20121106; t=1364680815; bh=TNP+MXUFXtndqpcsPSaBfkfoSXHE29lq/ipbQbR6LcE=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=gpb12+wxWkkUbKb+eSpANmbRXmILDsqbPcrNuo5IWZGc7oZeBsXL7vAjh8sdIeI3z 8x8saCWFFxOS9qwtlI9dbGpNgn8vs8SN8PmD1lfML7BMNAc6hI7/MV461sPYS8XI9Q p4C4XTpAr7rp9ljBBz/9SqYBVlU1+sQklFR7waLZWiIsagoM4vsVzcZK1odjNO8f3q LNHx/t4+SyKF98QFXbkzy2oEgm9XVGiDRWnNEpiQumO1AsmiPjUywBM3inw5amn3Au mR8tF502Jy6Yv9zoJxsaVVaGSYXi/zyYcRc43d+6cxH1N2uWnWoKcDwL1vuRozmJSK WD8uEKzctXO1A== Subject: [Tigers] White paint - Non Tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net We have this white 2003 Ford Escape and the white paint is flaking off the roof. It spent most of its life in the northeast, and only one winter in central Florida. Since this started, I think I've noticed a few other white cars, not all Fords IIRC, that had white paint flaking off. I don't mean its from rust underneath, the primer seems intact. So does anyone know if there is some chronic problem with white paint in general? The reason I'm asking is that I'm looking at a used car for a DD, that has everything right, except it is white... Stu _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 30 17:07:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3247340423 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 17:07:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59197403C6 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 17:04:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.139]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 862B2380000B1; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 19:02:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mld005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mld005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.122.83]) by mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5B4C0E000085; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 19:02:27 -0400 (EDT) From: CoolVT@aol.com Full-name: CoolVT Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 19:02:27 -0400 (EDT) To: stubrennan@comcast.net, Tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1364684547; bh=vGIV2NIl36I6pTZ7O/ADZHpIglWvV9io3FDJXzOWBis=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ikg51LL/YI31BSHABd3RQL1BdFBEf2631Qv+eJgw6WPLCGnHuGAd77zrJcccpWTXE nUhXGGIRAQgTmBcd0/pDbIpDH/qerXyIzSTUtLlfwDP5HyG8uGrBk3Vkk2i5tlrReq C1ejeyMZl4RGLNmYP2KHTS/kWU5WRX1Q2R4rI/Tw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b51576f031fab Subject: Re: [Tigers] White paint - Non Tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Stu, I would check with Ford to see if there was an "unadvertised" recall for defective paint. Jeep had one yrs. ago and was repainting cars that were 7-8 yrs. old. I think the problem is with the clear coat. When that goes the paint goes next. BTW, I've had white cars with no problems. With Jeep it was dark colors....black and dark gray. Mark L In a message dated 3/30/2013 6:03:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stubrennan@comcast.net writes: We have this white 2003 Ford Escape and the white paint is flaking off the roof. It spent most of its life in the northeast, and only one winter in central Florida. Since this started, I think I've noticed a few other white cars, not all Fords IIRC, that had white paint flaking off. I don't mean its from rust underneath, the primer seems intact. So does anyone know if there is some chronic problem with white paint in general? The reason I'm asking is that I'm looking at a used car for a DD, that has everything right, except it is white... Stu _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 30 17:36:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E545403FF for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 17:36:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8792403C6 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 17:33:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from optiplex3301 ([unknown] [173.58.135.61]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MKH00FRUYNNRAC0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:31:00 -0500 (CDT) From: "Thomas Witt" To: Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 16:31:00 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] White paint - Non Tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, I have seen the same thing (peeling paint, with primer intact) and yes, it seems more prevalent on white vehicles of varying brands. I notice it mostly on trucks and vans in the late 90's to early new millennium. I've been told (but am no expert myself) that the problem is the water based paints they use. I'm also told water based paint is the cause of much of the peeling clear coat too. Tom > We have this white 2003 Ford Escape and the white paint is flaking off the > roof. It spent most of its life in the northeast, and only one winter in > central Florida. Since this started, I think I've noticed a few other > white cars, not all Fords IIRC, that had white paint flaking off. I don't > mean its from rust underneath, the primer seems intact. > > So does anyone know if there is some chronic problem with white paint in > general? The reason I'm asking is that I'm looking at a used car for a > DD, that has everything right, except it is white... > > Stu _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 30 18:25:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6E940410 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:25:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED10403C6 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:25:02 -0600 (MDT) a=zRnpmXbGQaD0Pkau7AOncA==:17 a=EEW65Zxb_VUA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=KJ4GPfaOYCMA:10 a=gc-sZ2utAAAA:8 a=RMxw7YLGwT_AVrgGBDAA:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=vOLqKW40838A:10 a=zRnpmXbGQaD0Pkau7AOncA==:117 Received: from [75.83.202.184] ([75.83.202.184:54006] helo=BillPC) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id FB/1A-11869-7C187515; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 00:22:31 +0000 From: "Bill Rogers" To: "Tigers" Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 17:22:09 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] New Fiction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.barnesandnoble.com/sample/read/2940016382883 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Mar 30 18:28:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAAC840416 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:28:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346E2403C6 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:28:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BB7FA073A for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:27:56 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 18:27:55 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:19.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/19.0 SeaMonkey/2.16 To: Tigers References: Subject: Re: [Tigers] New Fiction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Is that a TR4 on the cover ;-) mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 02:33:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A9A940406 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 02:33:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm8-vm0.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.118]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7119403F8 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 02:32:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.103] by nm8.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2013 08:29:58 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.244] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2013 08:29:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp115.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Mar 2013 08:29:58 -0000 s=s1024; t=1364718598; bh=rQjHEpbBog2KajU6WYXjc3xy5M1dqqz0Jf+0iNSbtAU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Reply-To:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language; b=j8EE001afp3f11hj3gQFQhDvoX+LgHNc9yT8YygU8DToc3YaEvfovU8CHAsjOjpnyKYQWkmHrM7nYmwHfb5LnRBpqhanMg9k4PUnCelnTB4WtjOtR13ebm192/368WQPHmsLGMO2dIPfitKS9+eewSMh6kNj2xXCCm40EPH3JeQ= z90mwU.GEoOtIQRuxBoFbhqQkKl4B_oHk7wpnq5P0xamEBz3sC3OjBNdHI9J kTflc.mySZcJiGRMzl_WovtzUmAJJay2D4PW2G8TRvz6xDmavKWTlWPYevM. pw4JZXfArppkYtDgAxqbgVt4nfjoyps8KOvThOpskHG0zqiZR9jPAZZWXiXg M4hudAT4K.5CxqjEdp7vCPP9bNV2bKzezELqb9XviJFgBnatEA2k4pegyBIH Arb7fg4kOxroSRkD4qStddiS8_gCRV7.aVfNmxebHDcflVkoSdju1iprM3O7 GnbpgpMzpJ66TIpngmpd9016q7mJp.auqmjlMzcriQu52O8SYNCYXPXYNBnl N9D4X8HtpKCSaBEH_XRvQyGQmW3NPBx086xuXoLaFZwiCtJ65OoEgZ86ID2z rodLHXgZRGlwPu19ZFPtBjUqWo_24qJ61FaNVPPofqg-- smtp115.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Mar 2013 01:29:58 -0700 PDT From: "Ross Hulse" To: "'Mark J Bradakis'" , "'Tigers'" References: <5157830B.9090602@bradakis.com> Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 01:29:57 -0700 Thread-Index: AQGiyzOuQvVBmhSHwjmUKqMw+bL5bAIdQiYUmQVSmCA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Tigers] New Fiction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net No, but I think his hand slipped off the gear lever. To: Tigers Subject: Re: [Tigers] New Fiction Is that a TR4 on the cover ;-) mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 05:47:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE8D40410 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 05:47:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f180.google.com (mail-ie0-f180.google.com [209.85.223.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58993403F3 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 05:44:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f180.google.com with SMTP id a11so1681239iee.11 for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 04:42:10 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=zMYf7ci39YO5x5qBKeu98KpvSSE0N3nNoHWq2kkJllI=; b=I1Y6q3A3yFhzp+JR5N9R2JrfHjedGt7ZeMtaJNjiqk7H2vi94qzVj4u3fGr3DLBI3q NcKeB+snVOfHClZNzAb0ENf4TGsKkwsDIHCkwRJrtKAAROfWbjjTg5C9BgcH1o6yuDod fQXv7Iri7+NAH7TJuhGA4JtywlFh1kacRpO3OTtUlJFeZZizXibez3gmIeW0QIYvFFgh G3ElafSRCHWOR+ejBoLEYAT7HEbhXZ1V9W2r36K7xYlog53IF7lhn0EMVzX2f0bO5H9S h3ZuxN0930FNjSRtOb6P563M10i5sX92m/OQjFo/liWmLmMt+BegAQulTOZLlbqnACSU Ij3w== jd5mr2232466igb.2.1364730130270; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 04:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.89.5 with HTTP; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 04:42:10 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 22:42:10 +1100 From: michael king To: Bill Rogers Cc: Tigers Subject: Re: [Tigers] New Fiction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net That alpine has now featured in 4 different bank company ads, a weight loss ad, 2 US company ads, brochures, stock photography frames... the lots keeps getting longer! A friend of my owns the car... its a constant source of amusement.. pity he doesnt get a commission , On 31 March 2013 11:22, Bill Rogers wrote: > http://www.barnesandnoble.com/sample/read/2940016382883 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Mar 31 07:49:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D910B4041E for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 07:49:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FD6E4003E for ; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 07:47:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta001.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r2VDhGCP017019; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 06:45:16 -0700 Received: by sj1-dm103.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4348622d) id sj1-dm103.5152699e.130af6; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 06:44:18 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.145.73]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Sun, 31 Mar 2013 13:44:07 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Stu Brennan'" , "'Tiger Net'" Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 09:44:04 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac4tkmE6Z+T3q/rgRcGEzHA35zvFOAAf32sg engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8626,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-03-31_03:2013-03-29,2013-03-31,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1211240000 definitions=main-1303310117 Subject: Re: [Tigers] White paint - Non Tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Stu All of today's vehicles are basecoat - clearcoat. As I understand any color can peel if the paint process goes wrong. Dodge Neon blue for a long time it was common for that color to flake. I saw one Neon with half the clearcoat peeled off. I have seen Ford blue and GM blue, red and green with this problem. I can't say I've seen white flaking but you need to be closer to white to see that; the other colors are obvious. As I understand the problem - the basecoat is too thin - the primer is UV sensitive so the primer starts to pop the paint off. Check all the surfaces for any flaked off paint - if it starts in one place it will just continue to flake the paint. Check for any paint recalls or problems on AllData.com or other sources. Look for other similar vehicles to see if the paint is flaking off. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stu Brennan Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 6:00 PM To: Tiger Net Subject: [Tigers] White paint - Non Tiger We have this white 2003 Ford Escape and the white paint is flaking off the roof. It spent most of its life in the northeast, and only one winter in central Florida. Since this started, I think I've noticed a few other white cars, not all Fords IIRC, that had white paint flaking off. I don't mean its from rust underneath, the primer seems intact. So does anyone know if there is some chronic problem with white paint in general? The reason I'm asking is that I'm looking at a used car for a DD, that has everything right, except it is white... Stu _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net