From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 1 11:16:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B541E427FC for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 11:16:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m06.mx.aol.com (omr-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BCAC4271D for ; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 11:12:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.13]) by omr-m06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 85727700308D1; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 13:12:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moe002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moe002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.69]) by mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 55FC9E000082; Sun, 1 Sep 2013 13:12:01 -0400 (EDT) From: FHSLOTH13@aol.com Full-name: FHSLOTH13 Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2013 13:12:01 -0400 (EDT) To: drmayf@mayfco.com, tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1378055521; bh=6NR1/V+MNav9tWUaxDZ01JMGpre8bQA03PxdBfg+4cg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eUUkovtunkTWjnKgXfs6QxlVEv/dCCmqnLAjeJ4W/1GdyMDps6dfpXaavNrpSZXco ydalJ8u0XW6ptMRD7Lvs4vZPphXTXALTqp3exVVE6AmUvkT6lrHwhsa+ihtyOZ/h/X MtGvuVlUBaBaNR4N+SLs2EmNqrZ1RPLS/kF4K57M= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d52237561218c Subject: Re: [Tigers] Bonneville Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Best of luck and set a new record for all us Sunbeam enthusiasts! Fred Baum In a message dated 8/31/2013 1:58:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, drmayf@mayfco.com writes: The Host organization for World of Speed just announced that the salt is excellent with no standing water anywhere except at the end of the road. So I am doing the final loading and will head out next Thursday morning around 4 am. We always gop up I-15 to US 93 junction and go through Ash Meadows, Hiko, Lund, Ely and then US93A to Wendover. When we get there we will go straight to the salt to park the trailer until Friday morning. The set up the pit and go to tech and do the $$$$ entry thing.... I will be on CB channel 27 on the way up if anyone want to chat... mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/fhsloth13@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 2 07:22:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0134406A7 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 07:22:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BF040450 for ; Mon, 2 Sep 2013 07:14:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.153] by nm21.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Sep 2013 13:14:43 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.230] by tm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Sep 2013 13:14:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1039.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Sep 2013 13:14:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 23667 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Sep 2013 13:14:43 -0000 s=s1024; t=1378127681; bh=Fd/z7Ojlr1CVPbPZZE5+i4vbVsEy90HkiNdQhbcmqwQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=guoLCXqtuo4ijyRYKlN/m0kgW+u4ZwPNC+T1fmRpBHc2V1AF0yoX/vp4wh2QOJ9xH4lDclliPrF0hImEwR2NinlGyw6dAaDFQRGP3lHnZxqq9VI4LKoJ1tnwlLpWY59TH9PRC1wrJX4rYRtxxbDqCsPT7TIGJmFaIAOrYgmzJ10= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=a5De3kdjiM9HUFK7MjiQ1tmzAcMnEQqIi8AAtIBswKGd0at4r17DS+pWAZoHJJ2OFEBSAWda9yzRHgXxvNP4fJN5YhrglBDXFPfI76T+bSQ78WEXTtJ1BVaaTxkf2KuFyiJ5tFyxu2SbWMmWaSqCuAWca9f1VRHJQ7DiYyYLyxo=; 01mHy0j2w4rZHL5EspAxNsMWxZSokz8Sk4WuXR8vCvy9GQHiLLoOwxhGuBtY dPoxbgIXJE2no8tNzyytVsBFR2P1SgdovImKmIg9eQ6rhIadR85djxkEnx0c xo2vd8ikipIY1.GAGZ_0FBIQQVwiZp796jTi7XXwwML_UuACT7gqbcIj3wCK DfoMZ5DRbI0iK21C5W.0V4sDjhnHSywEctywCIIYhjcsN9qNrEifIa7XvTkz ULUapd9QA3ULL1a.bsXHKA80ZWx6qYXsOKIYQDfC1kCkhPlB6BXnTYe1Gl96 WxbXS7HYUtkY8l6PF2kidNMCedFo22adsG0aJ.e8LXukAmF1flHEB0unad4T wZv1DPCJZT21xMXiYn7w4r2AojNEJVb8FBOcFaf4Hd2rkfkKtTBqbJ6bVi99 oJzVBtHOe4WXzR8fSa.WCqkmME26wS0qP7fzkasaqmesJSOV78cG9uu8GekV o35xw6kR9nYXRIN_GDx4iCtnhkVzCCr4GBJWfiQwePwIdSYGwWPASdA-- Received: from [173.48.171.26] by web161001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 02 Sep 2013 06:14:41 PDT MzMxMDAwNDc2NzYxCmVCYXkgaXRlbSBudW1iZXI6CgpOb3QgbXkgd2hlZWxzLCBidXTCoCBhIHNldCBvZiBmb3VyIEFtZXJpY2FuIFJhY2luZyBFcXVpcG1lbnQgd2hlZWxzLCBub3Qgc3VyZSBpZiB0aGV5J3JlIHRoZSBTaWx2ZXJzdG9uZSBtb2RlbCwgYnV0IG1hZ25lc2l1bSwgc3VwcG9zZWRseSAxNSIgYnkgNSJ3aWRlLCB3ZXJlIG1vdW50ZWQgb24gYW4gQWxwaW5lLCBhcyBvZiBub3cgdGhlIGF1Y3Rpb24gZW5kcyBpbiBhYm91dCBvbmUgZGF5LiBTb21lIGxldCBTdGV2ZSBTaWx2ZXJzdGVpbmcga25vdy0BMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 06:14:41 -0700 (PDT) From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Possible Silverstones on eBay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net 331000476761 eBay item number: Not my wheels, but a set of four American Racing Equipment wheels, not sure if they're the Silverstone model, but magnesium, supposedly 15" by 5"wide, were mounted on an Alpine, as of now the auction ends in about one day. Some let Steve Silversteing know-I seem to have lost his email address. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 4 12:44:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60D3440E52 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 12:44:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57FBF40512 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 12:36:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta003.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r84IZfKe019902 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 11:36:05 -0700 Received: by dm0226.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 43ca9d92) id dm0226.520b1569.372818 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 11:36:05 -0700 Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2013 11:35:59 -0700 From: Larry Mayfield Organization: Mayfield Motorsport User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-04_08:2013-09-04,2013-09-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309040057 Subject: [Tigers] World of Speed September Meet Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Has been canceled. Salt is flooded on all parts used for land speed racing. So, if you know of anyone planning on attending please notify them that the meet has been canceled. One thing..trailer is packed for World Finals on October.... WF schedule is Oct 1 - 4th. Gates open on Sept 30th at 7 am. We will be going unless it gets flooded also. mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 4 20:45:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828B94298F for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 20:45:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f50.google.com (mail-pb0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 440AA40530; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 20:41:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id uo5so1161857pbc.37 for ; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 19:41:14 -0700 (PDT) h=from:content-type:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version; bh=NiL4Qbtd2Me6OSEJ1jMME/N5DJQGuduNHopmUUAvn14=; b=Oo1v3yNucrqiwp9gEI+/7+9mXyq+g9vcLuqVfPoRtlRl2VCHE2uxvqDIfzYSrBjkbX 7BfcpApu5YkOZIBDm2M9WvjcVCa5WoSCn2KyrjrJlceRNXlquoZE9pe1Xf1RmG0Zb9k9 6hXNY09lYMqjZKYEoO7dAPP2aQBFeH79lpeaKtSEn7/LdGEqzPmMNOTcJMzs+hjBl09F 0hAuh3TP/mYLUtItrIir1EagcWGoTwHAUpm+j215RatiagaAxnTcO3G1NKaM+fIogZ+/ VXtglM/8MWwrJz54CX4Gq4H/2Pfpk1WHO0zj40CCjLk/O+wmPc3IwfbkYHIV2R3aC2uR KoiA== rw4mr6781968pab.6.1378348874452; Wed, 04 Sep 2013 19:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([76.91.103.207]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ct4sm32077658pbb.41.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 04 Sep 2013 19:41:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay Laifman Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 19:41:12 -0700 To: "tigers@autox.team.net Den" , alpines@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Warning about Old Tires Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I've been driving my dad's Tiger around, a bit more lately - all the while, knowing that the tires were old - but look good and lots of tread. However, for years - about 20 years now, I've always remembered about a story about a guy driving back from SUNI in his Tiger and one of his old tires blew out, causing the car to roll multiple times. I have even told people about the story for years. I was just trying to find out whatever happened to them, as I remember one of them was in a coma for a while. Well, I just found a link: http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=129404&page=1 He survived ok. But she ended up with permanent brain damage. It looks like her daughter sued the tire company. I didn't find anything further. Bill or Ginger, if you are out there, I hope all is as good as it can be. Seems like this is never a bad thing to remind people of. Jay _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 4 21:30:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34483429CB for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 21:30:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8BB840325 for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2013 21:24:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.60]) by qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id MF6W1m00K1HzFnQ58FQSyC; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 03:24:26 +0000 Received: from sbrennanPC ([98.229.210.30]) by omta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id MFQR1m00T0fu9Ni3aFQR6i; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 03:24:25 +0000 From: "Stu Brennan" To: "Jay Laifman" , "Tiger Net" References: <50392F66-FFD6-42DB-BEEB-2FF695DC503A@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2013 23:24:19 -0400 s=q20121106; t=1378351466; bh=tklCjJHg+YcIbWluFJxotk807X7DYJWQ+gjb8Io3g2U=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=PMFb2v1wDdQVokg+ewlAuboqUp6lczOxXYNkIQjMAIH2GDtObp9AbSoJfMyiOrE6c 94x432QJ6a0H37l7FIM1BTqO8ASwE8Ad2Oxso27RVH5jcW4xt0lMuBRpifZMYiPZ5N mAwnvVNPV4UrhoemqdcicIkTk+s4RDO1QWZVhguAT71KhqoenZtxDLWYupaQyfTdg5 PZ9mDVvciEDxuWT/CweSIktBmTecCdQ/GXi8NpmdlG61P8X9Lw8Qv3UDjTnEQA0WWc JF7bt7Kox/FDyxlLkEsXBW/9CA6jTGictJ2qekHB2y3mpkzxrUd1oo/O65bIe3OkVw SiWRnE6lNn2nA== Subject: Re: [Tigers] Warning about Old Tires Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Agreed. I had two Famous Maker tires fail on my old Jetta. They were old but looked OK and still had ample tread left. They suffered some sort of internal separations resulting in them being not quite round anymore. The wobble was quite dramatic. No disasters, low speed, just a few miles from home. When the first failed, I said "that's odd". When the second did the same thing, I immediately replaced the rest. A few years later I got a set of neat wheels for the Tiger, including the old Continentals mounted on them. I contacted Conti, and they recommended replacing them, since the tires were well beyond the 6 or 7 years max they claim. We replaced two sets this year, one on the Tiger, and some 7 year old Goodies on my daughter's car, that were starting to show external cracks and one started losing a few pounds a month. Stu _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 5 05:15:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E039E40544 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 05:15:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f181.google.com (mail-lb0-f181.google.com [209.85.217.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB21140530 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 05:06:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f181.google.com with SMTP id u14so1523248lbd.12 for ; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 04:06:53 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=UebpN11CfwXrqp3wH3oiK1c7NwohjUI8YesyDJNi9M4=; b=oiU70drYwuGO6c9Hp+JnUCvzgX8WKvKzRIvVPXD7iRZKOEoBR5fMv9dsPWKi3bpkJz 7xkL88/xVFHIaBjSrqG1XzcZc6jHjU2iJm+nDFajzuN6GtchP4BYi9y6OKGPcuPj+xQH Hb4ikOyG9eC5Oz8awrY+LDhq4y1p3w8Jv+pUd8vMXDsYGG5qQPNqqHVkLWEUJcMTHcIH SlHtobVzZ5IOofE+HL48i0msCijE17D4PmSSQusOo2EC5y9Y6c12I0Y06YmYhYulVG/y x+T3pc0J7SOFgwJHJHZQhk3B2k+26YQLPb6HsnzB1thi57PhZNsXWGIpKMkNAq2gIXcQ 2XBw== Thu, 05 Sep 2013 04:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.204.69 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 04:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.204.69 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 04:06:53 -0700 (PDT) References: <50392F66-FFD6-42DB-BEEB-2FF695DC503A@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 07:06:53 -0400 From: "michael@michaelshortt.com" To: Stu Brennan Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Warning about Old Tires Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Having almost died in a horrible head on collision with a tanker semi truck, I implore you and everyone else to check your date codes. If over 7 years old, regardless of mileage, get new tires. Now the story. I like to play with Motorhomes, I have owned 5, I use them for work meeting space and portable bathroom, hospitality for football games and a place to relax and change at the racetrack. I rarely sleep in them, but love the option. I had just bought one outside Ocala, FL and started towards home, 13 miles later on a two lane road in the middle of nothing, my left front tire deintegrates and I veer into the oncoming lane in the direct path of a speeding orange juice semi tanker truck. Adrenaline kicks in and I am able to manhandle the steering wheel and get it back over in time to only lose my mirror which was sheered off by the semi. It was about as close to dying as I have ever come. The new tire was under $200, the mirror and associated repairs were nearly $400, being alive...priceless. The tires on the coach were 11 years old. Michael Shortt On Sep 4, 2013 11:30 PM, "Stu Brennan" wrote: > Agreed. I had two Famous Maker tires fail on my old Jetta. They were old > but looked OK and still had ample tread left. They suffered some sort of > internal separations resulting in them being not quite round anymore. The > wobble was quite dramatic. No disasters, low speed, just a few miles from > home. > > When the first failed, I said "that's odd". When the second did the same > thing, I immediately replaced the rest. > > A few years later I got a set of neat wheels for the Tiger, including the > old Continentals mounted on them. I contacted Conti, and they recommended > replacing them, since the tires were well beyond the 6 or 7 years max they > claim. > > We replaced two sets this year, one on the Tiger, and some 7 year old > Goodies on my daughter's car, that were starting to show external cracks > and one started losing a few pounds a month. > > Stu > ______________________________**_________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/tigers/michael@** > michaelshortt.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 5 07:36:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AECF942A17 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 07:36:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7150429CD for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 07:36:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004960.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r85DXxIF008326; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 06:36:31 -0700 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 40189691) id dm0213.520b1585.2e3284; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 06:36:24 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: , "'Stu Brennan'" Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 09:36:17 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6qKTYyvd5yNkB+QmyGaDNlrozvwgADtPMg engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-05_05:2013-09-05,2013-09-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309050071 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Warning about Old Tires Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net These are all good points. We should all be aware of the Manufacturer's Date code and how to read them. We should all inspect our tires yearly; I generally check mine before winter, again in the spring and always before taking a trip. I was going to take a trip to Pa with my Tiger for a TE/AE meet but when I checked the tires one was split in the tread area at multiple points. I ordered new tires. The tires I replaced on my Tiger were over 10 yrs old. They never lost air pressure. They were not noisy on the highway. They never had ply shift or even a blemish in the rubber until this spring. Maybe I was lucky but then again I inspect all my tires regularly. Articles I have read indicate some Tire Manufacturers say replace after 5 years. I have also read articles that state some of the small checking in the sidewall is normal but any splits in the tread area is very bad. Many factors deteriorate tires; sunlight, sitting in water or ice, ozone, road hazards and more. Everyone needs to have a plan about tire safety for themselves. Be Aware and Be Safe. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of michael@michaelshortt.com Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 7:07 AM To: Stu Brennan Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Warning about Old Tires Having almost died in a horrible head on collision with a tanker semi truck, I implore you and everyone else to check your date codes. If over 7 years old, regardless of mileage, get new tires. Now the story. I like to play with Motorhomes, I have owned 5, I use them for work meeting space and portable bathroom, hospitality for football games and a place to relax and change at the racetrack. I rarely sleep in them, but love the option. I had just bought one outside Ocala, FL and started towards home, 13 miles later on a two lane road in the middle of nothing, my left front tire deintegrates and I veer into the oncoming lane in the direct path of a speeding orange juice semi tanker truck. Adrenaline kicks in and I am able to manhandle the steering wheel and get it back over in time to only lose my mirror which was sheered off by the semi. It was about as close to dying as I have ever come. The new tire was under $200, the mirror and associated repairs were nearly $400, being alive...priceless. The tires on the coach were 11 years old. Michael Shortt On Sep 4, 2013 11:30 PM, "Stu Brennan" wrote: > Agreed. I had two Famous Maker tires fail on my old Jetta. They were > old but looked OK and still had ample tread left. They suffered some > sort of internal separations resulting in them being not quite round > anymore. The wobble was quite dramatic. No disasters, low speed, > just a few miles from home. > > When the first failed, I said "that's odd". When the second did the > same thing, I immediately replaced the rest. > > A few years later I got a set of neat wheels for the Tiger, including > the old Continentals mounted on them. I contacted Conti, and they > recommended replacing them, since the tires were well beyond the 6 or > 7 years max they claim. > > We replaced two sets this year, one on the Tiger, and some 7 year old > Goodies on my daughter's car, that were starting to show external > cracks and one started losing a few pounds a month. > > Stu > ______________________________**_________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: > http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/tigers/michael@** > michaelshortt.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 5 14:05:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A6A42ADB for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:05:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mailsvc001.cisp.com (mailsvc001.cisp.com [68.70.191.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FC742A5A for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 14:05:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from LonWaltersPC (unverified [24.156.96.197]) by mailsvc001.cisp.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 8.0.3) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 20:05:28 +0000 From: "Lon Walters" To: Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:05:29 -0700 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: Ac6qc0TO+8U6mBB9QdSJzDZsNH3U1A== Subject: [Tigers] Old Tires Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I completely agree, replace, not "inspect" tires a maximum of 8-10 years old (preferably 7). At SEMA last year had an extended discussion with a tire engineer. Damage and delaminating occurs from the inside. So inspect your old stuff until the cows come home, you can't see the tire failing unless you saved your Capt Crunch X-Rays glasses. Those with older tires are literally risking their lives and the lives of others. It doesn't matter what they look like on the outside. Michaels RV story of a blowout has been repeated many times on RV discussion groups, most with much worse outcomes. He was one lucky guy. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 5 15:51:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 557BC42AF3 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:51:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net (txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net [208.180.40.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF3042A94 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 15:51:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Roscrea ([74.196.108.150]) by txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net (InterMail vM.8.04.01.08 201-2343-100-153-20121108) with ESMTP id <20130905215112.LZST3871.txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net@Roscrea>; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:51:12 -0500 From: "Jerry Mo Christopherson" To: "'Lon Walters'" , References: <002d01ceaa73$45886250$d09926f0$@net> Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:51:05 -0500 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQJmFgVr8fQ5dAJdoeMEQg+zlocvH5iI134A cv=gDYvegcTCN9ujtioAbXPZ3vkL1lbI2GVBbPyu5GHo5I= c=1 sm=0 a=xzW3HwPJiLYA:10 a=VPHkNMUpP2kA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=8LaAqv5HAAAA:8 a=muvqBRHppDq00kv70qUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=gPGHqaX6uacA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Old Tires Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I've always heard it referred to as "dry rot". Jerry Christopherson 9473187 -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lon Walters Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:05 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Old Tires I completely agree, replace, not "inspect" tires a maximum of 8-10 years old (preferably 7). At SEMA last year had an extended discussion with a tire engineer. Damage and delaminating occurs from the inside. So inspect your old stuff until the cows come home, you can't see the tire failing unless you saved your Capt Crunch X-Rays glasses. Those with older tires are literally risking their lives and the lives of others. It doesn't matter what they look like on the outside. Michaels RV story of a blowout has been repeated many times on RV discussion groups, most with much worse outcomes. He was one lucky guy. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jcmc2006@suddenlink.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 5 16:22:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 687F642AF2 for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:22:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998D042A5A for ; Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:22:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id MSbC1m0010EZKEL53aN3UQ; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 22:22:03 +0000 Received: from OldHickory.comcast.net ([24.125.152.10]) by omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id MaN31m00L0DizLw3MaN3AX; Thu, 05 Sep 2013 22:22:03 +0000 Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 18:13:53 -0400 To: tigers@autox.team.net From: Marc James Small References: <002d01ceaa73$45886250$d09926f0$@net> <000c01ceaa82$0554d880$0ffe8980$@suddenlink.net> s=q20121106; t=1378419723; bh=oelYMYIEyCQfjawpJy1SX6seUHE07tSdkklsNUtJAIs=; h=Received:Received:Date:To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=YoW9F17h5UtXDPhupL0Qfv09htF/pvgKFC3ih9BgIatbutIXgry/9JbTCmXXBpMfn V5BdbMMnDuEFZwO6ki1fuaobAywA6RItfVndBES/LQ79nOyLRBOdSYd2Cp+uvDN0P6 a/f+kixEBnmAp2eMp70O78xso5FgahkcMtElVh1lwhRv+bsPDZo4G4SmgSbBBKj+tD Yt2YpD5sfGsoAXJr+3FVTquPbSMp3B1eUOfUnid0461CmH9wanfkLSa2nPi3URPIA6 D5fMj44qp2bPxJZ5KPc0KWfdyVOvVp6xURlKw/qTUUrfKoPYVhTukcgL+wz+Qv0LaZ GErRPf6dLK0vQ== Subject: Re: [Tigers] Old Tires Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net This did not involve a Rootes Group product. I had a three-year-old tire die from side wall collapse. I did not wreck the car but it was a horrifying experience. A friend of mine who is a truck insurance broker demanded pictures and I sent them to her. It cost me about $200 in towing costs. Marc msmall@aya.yale.edu Cha robh b`s fir gun ghr`s fir! _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 6 17:16:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468414054E for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 17:16:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp-out-05.shaw.ca (smtp-out-05.shaw.ca [64.59.134.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 989204053D for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 17:14:23 -0600 (MDT) cv=/OolT88hxzZB4/D8S1pLLnpaRVcdzwgG3HupJc0czqk= c=1 sm=1 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=88NxmroaIPmpBvoTM6QRPw==:17 a=lzSD3WbmT0WV4NvqKH0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.100]) ([174.1.199.204]) by smtp-out-05.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 06 Sep 2013 17:14:18 -0600 From: Peter and Bonnie MacDonald Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:14:17 -0700 To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Tires Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I had a tire of mine come apart internally on the tread - it "threw a belt". The vibration was untraceable until I realized I could see daylight under one of my tires from the rear! Now I keep a set of old tires on rims to let my car sit over the winter and stack up the new ones. Don't know if those new rounded pads to park on help that much or not. This also happened to two other friends of mine whose "special" cars sat in the garage except for summer months. Food for thought for those of us that do not have the weather to use our Tigers all year long. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 6 17:51:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA84040557 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 17:51:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6CD94053D; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 17:51:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from oz.com ([unknown] [63.236.37.73]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MSQ000NIA9MOX70@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net>; Fri, 06 Sep 2013 18:51:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2013 23:51:22 +0000 From: "Clyde McLaughlin" To: , Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 5, Issue 302 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net This tire blew while car was on the lift, it was old with good tread, Don,t be fooled, clyde Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ------Original Message------ From: To: Date: Friday, September 6, 2013 12:00:02 PM GMT-0600 Subject: Tigers Digest, Vol 5, Issue 302 Send Tigers mailing list submissions to tigers@autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to tigers-request@autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at tigers-owner@autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Old Tires (Lon Walters) 2. Re: Old Tires (Jerry Mo Christopherson) 3. Re: Old Tires (Marc James Small) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 13:05:29 -0700 From: "Lon Walters" To: Subject: [Tigers] Old Tires I completely agree, replace, not "inspect" tires a maximum of 8-10 years old (preferably 7). At SEMA last year had an extended discussion with a tire engineer. Damage and delaminating occurs from the inside. So inspect your old stuff until the cows come home, you can't see the tire failing unless you saved your Capt Crunch X-Rays glasses. Those with older tires are literally risking their lives and the lives of others. It doesn't matter what they look like on the outside. Michaels RV story of a blowout has been repeated many times on RV discussion groups, most with much worse outcomes. He was one lucky guy. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 16:51:05 -0500 From: "Jerry Mo Christopherson" To: "'Lon Walters'" , Subject: Re: [Tigers] Old Tires I've always heard it referred to as "dry rot". Jerry Christopherson 9473187 -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Lon Walters Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2013 3:05 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Old Tires I completely agree, replace, not "inspect" tires a maximum of 8-10 years old (preferably 7). At SEMA last year had an extended discussion with a tire engineer. Damage and delaminating occurs from the inside. So inspect your old stuff until the cows come home, you can't see the tire failing unless you saved your Capt Crunch X-Rays glasses. Those with older tires are literally risking their lives and the lives of others. It doesn't matter what they look like on the outside. Michaels RV story of a blowout has been repeated many times on RV discussion groups, most with much worse outcomes. He was one lucky guy. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jcmc2006@suddenlink.net ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 05 Sep 2013 18:13:53 -0400 From: Marc James Small To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Old Tires This did not involve a Rootes Group product. I had a three-year-old tire die from side wall collapse. I did not wreck the car but it was a horrifying experience. A friend of mine who is a truck insurance broker demanded pictures and I sent them to her. It cost me about $200 in towing costs. Marc msmall@aya.yale.edu Cha robh b`s fir gun ghr`s fir! ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Tigers mailing list Tigers@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers End of Tigers Digest, Vol 5, Issue 302 ************************************** [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IMG_20120315_135015.jpg] _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 9 17:00:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD04140437 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 17:00:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc3-s6.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s6.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177AF40066 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 17:00:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY178-W48 ([65.54.190.189]) by bay0-omc3-s6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:00:03 -0700 From: John Crawley To: LIST TIGER Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 23:00:02 +0000 FILETIME=[519E20D0:01CEADB0] Subject: [Tigers] TIGER Timing Chain Cover Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All: My TIGER Timing Chain Cover developed a tiny hole just under the thermostat housing and is blowing coolant out in a steady fine stream. The cover came off the original 260 and has been running on the 289 for 20 years and 60,000 miles. Does any one know if there is anything unique about the cover on a TIGER or will one from any 289 fit? Jc _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 9 17:16:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A504051F for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 17:16:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f51.google.com (mail-vb0-f51.google.com [209.85.212.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43E140395 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 17:15:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id x16so4367471vbf.24 for ; Mon, 09 Sep 2013 16:15:53 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=gjhdJ8jGewIOPkiqmlysq7MXow1fk72JvaeG8CGydTQ=; b=BAtK1MywtFE0QVtbuyeCGxb2Ur93yy4xU6QsXMU5XcOPkKMEBos0MRaI1j7dOHIiyN LlGCzmtDEYdoiupsy1Az9iGO+7lWqMtvTfcdRqWpBIqchcWJ05RvC28zTVeE6n4IvIYs RXlMpClDF0xG8Qqi0UEGW0i7yPT8VMut/i9L80+fmP9cnWzvgPSH+Dpm5846rP7vTZBj 1kXD3m90k0issOLemTcXdIKvrj1wQs0uJwpRmuNxBq/hw47GgPRGTAV3qw8HaX+G0sEC oFVUs3FHNdnKLkBs3WgqdP/66ASpi7iIbhlti9oLQZIfjpEX5QVdPByGTuu2z7ofhhMQ sHzA== ct10mr20244597vcb.14.1378768553594; Mon, 09 Sep 2013 16:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.149.17 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 16:15:53 -0700 From: Jay Laifman To: "Tiger's Den" Subject: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I've been driving the Tiger a bunch lately. It truly is a unique car. This weekend, it sort of dawned on me why it is feels so different. It is all about the engine, more so than any car I've ever driven. It is like everything else on the car is superfluous, just bolted on around the engine, along for the ride. As I go down the road, I visualize the engine pulling, pulling, with everything else kind of flowing in its wake - that is, everything that happens to be attached to the engine or otherwise strapped in. Either that or I had some funny mushrooms on my burger for lunch! _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 9 21:10:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E24954052D for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 21:10:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D50D240395 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 20:52:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id er7so6740463obc.3 for ; Mon, 09 Sep 2013 19:52:31 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index:in-reply-to; bh=7WffnzUmiwiLoP/mr+ydSjGYMeDGvNqM2bewc5PT37o=; b=eYMquaCasvsjVQ48hMeLm3zCglxqb8nRzPZkraiCG3QohXe5VOalxINLMyOGSGQHhP Ny5aR6vjFnPBvNId8zpPGHXGjwMYNSxhb/IrPS3qTNnw/PjGsbHP4IPzSHdFUgCYYM9T bgYDgSyoWAw9n78dt9FVsVYeSJBpI9qvlpsIfgFpDtL5RlwNMHzUHwiqhsK8j/8YFr4L 19r6pZqFSrbyy43w/+4GQCFiAteQPd5iIR0Hwyk0xCdZ5A+JYsQuAc8FyjqOz7bx5NcR ne1UWL0NFa1QlW+TmPmlY79GWzXciTb0TWiS425CIRPAWgKLV3jXJEjaJSwl9QIWH3Ox 6Hfw== Mon, 09 Sep 2013 19:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from delld630 (adsl-75-10-147-251.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net. [75.10.147.251]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u8sm8482509obd.7.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 09 Sep 2013 19:52:30 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mark Rense" To: "'John Crawley'" , "'LIST TIGER'" References: Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 22:52:29 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6tsGm6DHzsZNVaQ/iqMzpBJHWTGwAHgn4g Subject: Re: [Tigers] TIGER Timing Chain Cover Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net John, All Tiger 260s used the C4OE-6059A timing cover. This is the cover for the aluminum water pump, the pump with the exposed vanes. The MKII 289 used the later timing cover that uses the enclosed water pump. You may be able to repair your cover, if not Scott Drake repops the timing cover. -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Crawley Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 7:00 PM To: LIST TIGER Subject: [Tigers] TIGER Timing Chain Cover Hi All: My TIGER Timing Chain Cover developed a tiny hole just under the thermostat housing and is blowing coolant out in a steady fine stream. The cover came off the original 260 and has been running on the 289 for 20 years and 60,000 miles. Does any one know if there is anything unique about the cover on a TIGER or will one from any 289 fit? Jc _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mark44124@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 9 21:27:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B694051F for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 21:27:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qe0-f49.google.com (mail-qe0-f49.google.com [209.85.128.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16865400A4 for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 21:00:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qe0-f49.google.com with SMTP id s14so3041081qeb.22 for ; Mon, 09 Sep 2013 20:00:36 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=aXNBp6Q1IBz6tcx0b/W4WHsw7T/pvvxBszPRJ3810ZM=; b=CPRSy4QuSltgx5JcIBl2tWa94Y9t9+cgvdDQXaH1cHFq/Uv0jYaRqicIGg6D3cg2mV ALZKdX1fHjKH/zJ9PS6iXTyQuzmkV7F2yH9r73s0u1pr0bMtN9xuzqIqORSmT+TJbKYU CLLrE+iBKgtJstyf73WAV7fKwS8hfG6jieVqsKwOzz/lHWKmEn7+Sh0/8fOYSST+E9si CllsEpLg3MqeVW82uShb5DLaTiGnDT2ZiVshaTnh5vMrujoYLf0Wbmeskrl/48j226Jo ny3Pope+8K3VpYrtIXYHFnOcaDt99ZabdRNb1gAJNCLdO6I5Aiepoi73VGr04JSKn/GE wT9A== e6mr15167125qeo.76.1378782036240; Mon, 09 Sep 2013 20:00:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.122.74 with HTTP; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 20:00:36 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 23:00:36 -0400 From: Tom Parker To: John Crawley Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] TIGER Timing Chain Cover Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net John, I suspect you'll hear a lot from the group on this one... The timing cover on the 260 was different than the one on the 289 (mine is a 6-bolt 289; the 5-bolt 289 may have used the 260 timing cover. Ron Frasier will know...). The issue is Ford changed water pumps when they changed timing covers. Rick at Sunbeam Specialties lists only the late timing cover; if you use that one you may (probably will) have to change water pumps also, since you say yours is from the original 260. NPD carries both timing covers in their Mustang catalog. Tom '67 Mark 2 On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 7:00 PM, John Crawley wrote: > Hi All: > > My TIGER Timing Chain Cover developed a tiny hole just under the thermostat > housing and is blowing coolant out in a steady fine stream. The cover came > off > the original 260 and has been running on the 289 for 20 years and 60,000 > miles. > > Does any one know if there is anything unique about the cover on a TIGER or > will one from any 289 fit? > > > Jc > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 9 21:43:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 781934053E for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 21:43:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF34E4035A for ; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 21:23:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta001.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r8A3NhPo015724; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 20:23:43 -0700 Received: by dm0224.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 40189536) id dm0224.520b156c.38aed5; Mon, 9 Sep 2013 20:23:21 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'John Crawley'" , "'LIST TIGER'" Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 23:22:36 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6tsF7/YUgtP+HiQ8mSTsYX6yQDaQAIwAIg engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-10_01:2013-09-10,2013-09-10,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309090185 Subject: Re: [Tigers] TIGER Timing Chain Cover Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net John The only unique thing about Ford timing cover is; there are 2 types - one for the open impellor water pump, originally the aluminum pump, and one for the closed water pump, originally the iron pump. I believe both types are being made now. Some have the cast timing pointer, some have the bolt on pointer. Check the Ford part number on your part. Timing cover for open impellor pumps have a deeper cavity for the pump. Timing cover for closed pumps have a very shallow cavity for the pump. All timing covers are made of aluminum. You could have it fixed by welding. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Crawley Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 7:00 PM To: LIST TIGER Subject: [Tigers] TIGER Timing Chain Cover Hi All: My TIGER Timing Chain Cover developed a tiny hole just under the thermostat housing and is blowing coolant out in a steady fine stream. The cover came off the original 260 and has been running on the 289 for 20 years and 60,000 miles. Does any one know if there is anything unique about the cover on a TIGER or will one from any 289 fit? Jc _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3392 / Virus Database: 3222/6649 - Release Date: 09/09/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 10 13:51:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D1E840559 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 13:51:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from ent-mocinrl08.gannett.com (unknown [159.54.39.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A79BE40519 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:14:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ENT-MOCEXHC01.us.ad.gannett.com (unknown [172.20.1.47]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ent-mocinrl08.gannett.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FD532D5F32; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:14:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ENT-MOCEXCMB05.us.ad.gannett.com ([fe80::d1ee:ba6b:7083:d0d]) by ENT-MOCEXHC01.us.ad.gannett.com ([172.20.1.47]) with mapi; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:14:14 -0400 From: "Teepen, Jere" To: Jay Laifman , Tiger's Den Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:14:31 -0400 Thread-Topic: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is Thread-Index: Ac6tsovlGyTRRRdLSgijLMA/79AEAAAnvfmw References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I suspect the mushroom theory may be correct. Enjoy the ride. -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Laifman Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 4:16 PM To: Tiger's Den Subject: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is I've been driving the Tiger a bunch lately. It truly is a unique car. This weekend, it sort of dawned on me why it is feels so different. It is all about the engine, more so than any car I've ever driven. It is like everything else on the car is superfluous, just bolted on around the engine, along for the ride. As I go down the road, I visualize the engine pulling, pulling, with everything else kind of flowing in its wake - that is, everything that happens to be attached to the engine or otherwise strapped in. Either that or I had some funny mushrooms on my burger for lunch! _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 10 15:12:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D79B40559 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 15:12:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f51.google.com (mail-vb0-f51.google.com [209.85.212.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A5840515 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:02:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f51.google.com with SMTP id x16so5491592vbf.10 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 13:02:06 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=JUU1p+AMx9iDfx9eM9tndkaAzPDOgXDWIWAMoKy9KA4=; b=gl0kWF8TIzsEcn0nPHqd1dNMoCrh4IAS17CEBVb30V4ftRgWrFjquoM8awPD0t3S+X lph81NI/CuGxr4Ibm5Mpde4liva0pYzbJW6MeVrk6W014tqkxaBZB4QUD6Wv4LMmsIM7 Pr2guNsFO4zrlhS4xEExStw9NJfCLggFDlFEIm9lSA+kE3lKdV/PC6HIu8d6taE9Lvy9 HLMrj/irY0keksvuWgIJ+rdH86PzC0Xx4Zm0kh49jO2mvb6DMMmsMC32AL+nD0tbCVO2 zacuXNrkJP8OtQ3Hz4Ifx5WtcoJLMS5WnNCrfO3wi/YI2nsV5G99tBCju1K5HInYa5P+ NJEw== uo1mr23802052vec.6.1378843326908; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 13:02:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.112.9 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 13:02:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.112.9 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 13:02:06 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 16:02:06 -0400 From: Chip Broadbooks To: "Teepen, Jere" Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net And not sharing.... On Sep 10, 2013 3:51 PM, "Teepen, Jere" wrote: > I suspect the mushroom theory may be correct. Enjoy the ride. > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Jay Laifman > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 4:16 PM > To: Tiger's Den > Subject: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is > > I've been driving the Tiger a bunch lately. It truly is a unique car. > This weekend, it sort of dawned on me why it is feels so different. > > It is all about the engine, more so than any car I've ever driven. It is > like > everything else on the car is superfluous, just bolted on around the > engine, > along for the ride. As I go down the road, I visualize the engine pulling, > pulling, with everything else kind of flowing in its wake - that is, > everything that happens to be attached to the engine or otherwise strapped > in. > > Either that or I had some funny mushrooms on my burger for lunch! > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/chip.broadbooks@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 10 16:06:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E5D440550 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 16:06:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m06.mx.aol.com (omr-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1225740525 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 16:00:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by omr-m06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id E9F9A700308DC; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:00:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mlc003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mlc003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.209]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id AA792E000082; Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:00:53 -0400 (EDT) From: CoolVT@aol.com Full-name: CoolVT Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 18:00:53 -0400 (EDT) To: chip.broadbooks@gmail.com, jteepen@usatoday.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1378850453; bh=yyIpqe16tjPnMN+vrEbzu2M3TuLUkO6Xow0OH10W9b8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BeVRi5SaT/jvbK1U85YZJGzHxu4VMR8wLx8Byr26TCHkEOWs+6seRPWXSavwugb7k Gk1pBO/zbz0kvYHljsiDWJu1yjb2bxWCT+FGIfgR1O1muINxfRh1avm0Ux099FLWP2 AnrdXbOQ4+lDnJ5+fc+Y6mFHCBjJH0ZuLhOvn/kw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2909522f969524f6 Cc: Tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jay, I agree with you about the engine. Some cars I've driven it's the feel of the car sticking to the road. Others it's the luxury....don't hear any engine sound and like riding on a sofa. Others it's the feel of the technology. The Tiger definitely doesn't have the road hugging, the luxury or the technology. It's the engine. I get the same feeling of being pulled by the engine. I always felt that I should feel like the rear wheels pushing, but it never feels that way. When my car gets above 3,500 rpm's it has always felt to me like I'm being pulled by a big train. Maybe it's all those horses in the 302 stroker. Mark In a message dated 9/10/2013 5:11:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, chip.broadbooks@gmail.com writes: And not sharing.... On Sep 10, 2013 3:51 PM, "Teepen, Jere" wrote: > I suspect the mushroom theory may be correct. Enjoy the ride. > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of Jay Laifman > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 4:16 PM > To: Tiger's Den > Subject: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is > > I've been driving the Tiger a bunch lately. It truly is a unique car. > This weekend, it sort of dawned on me why it is feels so different. > > It is all about the engine, more so than any car I've ever driven. It is > like > everything else on the car is superfluous, just bolted on around the > engine, > along for the ride. As I go down the road, I visualize the engine pulling, > pulling, with everything else kind of flowing in its wake - that is, > everything that happens to be attached to the engine or otherwise strapped > in. > > Either that or I had some funny mushrooms on my burger for lunch! > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/chip.broadbooks@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 11 15:28:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EDE34039F for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 15:28:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 46241400A4 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2013 15:22:13 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1378934529; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=To:Date:Subject:Content-Type:From:Message-Id; b=kDXMRZU6lD+UO9Vh0RDYLWktZ7QTR4LP+k9Nztrn98EElsYpChDySsKpfPxUbcblu FuEPIirKs333goeOILWqhDZgoqphxy+ks4bjT0aU3JZ0YTs0MDPzZrzRv9kQNIH42n scogh6ukJ/ICZHZnNR73yeiK13g/9jcqiIxintoY= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (mailpop04.vgs.untd.com [10.181.45.24]) by smtpout03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABKDBZZXARDK9EJ for (sender ); Wed, 11 Sep 2013 14:21:57 -0700 (PDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 14:20:12 -0700 From: Subject: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I've always felt the Tiger is like a four wheel Harley, riding a motor with gobs of torque. ____________________________________________________________ One Weird Trick Could add $1,000s to Your Social Security Checks! See if you Qualify… http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5230def5a5a165ef5120ast03vuc _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 12 12:13:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50DBC403F3 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 12:13:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2lp0237.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520324006E for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 12:04:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLUPR06MB193.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.242.191.143) by BLUPR06MB195.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.242.191.144) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.745.25; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 18:04:20 +0000 Received: from BLUPR06MB193.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.13.92]) by BLUPR06MB193.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.13.92]) with mapi id 15.00.0775.005; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 18:04:20 +0000 From: Larry Wright To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: What the Tiger really is Thread-Index: AQHOr+IIhqLWEUnxRki5ft6Aur7h8JnCZK5w Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 18:04:20 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [74.117.225.146] x-forefront-prvs: 0967749BC1 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(189002)(199002)(31966008)(65816001)(33646001)(558084003)(74502001)(74662001)(47446002)(80022001)(74706001)(81686001)(80976001)(83322001)(19580395003)(54356001)(50986001)(69226001)(76176001)(81816001)(19580405001)(77982001)(76796001)(59766001)(76576001)(81342001)(54316002)(63696002)(76482001)(79102001)(56776001)(74316001)(81542001)(74876001)(47976001)(53806001)(49866001)(4396001)(47736001)(74366001)(46102001)(76786001)(66066001)(51856001)(83072001)(77096001)(56816003)(24736002); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BLUPR06MB195; H:BLUPR06MB193.namprd06.prod.outlook.com; CLIP:74.117.225.146; RD:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; Subject: Re: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Cool, does that mean I can remove my mufflers? ;^) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 14:20:12 -0700 From: "I've always felt the Tiger is like a four wheel Harley" _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 12 13:01:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A99640421 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:01:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from exprod5og112.obsmtp.com (exprod5og112.obsmtp.com [64.18.0.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54EB54006F for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 13:01:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from alpmlip11.e2k.ad.ge.com ([12.43.191.1]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5ob112.postini.com ([64.18.4.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUjIPj8IodcvvhtrpFu2hxj/nRRiHpsWF@postini.com; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 12:01:36 PDT Received: from unknown (HELO ALPMBHT03.e2k.ad.ge.com) ([3.159.19.196]) by alpmlip11.e2k.ad.ge.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 12 Sep 2013 15:01:34 -0400 Received: from ALPMLCH02.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.17.21) by ALPMBHT03.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.19.196) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:01:33 -0400 Received: from CINMBCNA09.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.212.38) by alpmlch02.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.17.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:01:32 -0400 Received: from CINMBCNA10.e2k.ad.ge.com ([169.254.4.241]) by CINMBCNA09.e2k.ad.ge.com ([169.254.3.136]) with mapi id 14.03.0146.000; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:01:32 -0400 From: "Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light)" To: "brockctella@juno.com" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is Thread-Index: AQHOrzXr4amv1dUFBUu6Ir8dOWwJmZnCdlGQ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 19:01:31 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [3.159.212.192] Subject: Re: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net But faster and more reliable... -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of brockctella@juno.com Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 5:20 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is I've always felt the Tiger is like a four wheel Harley, riding a motor with gobs of torque. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 12 15:01:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22F214040D for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:01:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f170.google.com (mail-pd0-f170.google.com [209.85.192.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882B3403D8 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:00:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f170.google.com with SMTP id x10so331322pdj.1 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:00:57 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=QVcHcK6WY2kh1VZyJMRdpvH9YRu4den5EJ5aU6RSqSc=; b=0y4BbCyQXk4cqeWV3Jj5RpOnLzrwLJm5cyqYL6MUDwBwBk7xnOR9QCF/ZX+18PpBRS rM72jIXY3rY6FmF1HrKQJ6ad94Ixx1qqfG2aTKdcwCb9nJkqkyAusMdNulY/Q/zw3/hz qj0ornqFHHejlzLitULrG+SNgQ8jEKhpQjNhelw7Ft51qOVLreMi5O8FdovXEFsYeNea dE08egPuXT57MiWZ3vdGl2IxJc5qu5qIr6Il8ctOOWduoUmaEerxrsh0jVJisq2rNKwE nt9pR2EUVAR9nqtI1nlBZrRD+aUVX809UpSofBbMTKDkrNv3ISrnkFO8qUfacvzWFirk q1FA== km1mr11357901pab.127.1379019657516; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.126.197 with HTTP; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 14:00:57 -0700 (PDT) References: <26805228D183EF4E9C6F4499BB55B05147D0DCB2@CINMBCNA10.e2k.ad.ge.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 16:00:57 -0500 From: Cullen McCann To: "Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light)" Cc: "brockctella@juno.com" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I have never driven my Tiger....unfortunately. I purchased the car as a barn find and it has gotten shuffled to the back of a few other projects. I have however been for a few rides in basically stock 260 tigers, or even slightly modified Tigers, but I wouldnt have characterized them as you all are. More elegant for me, some muscular, less of the beast that Im reading about here. Certainly more guts and grunt than a spitfire or an MG ( as so many people tend to compare them too, not my interpretation, but others..). One of my "projects" now completed is a replica Shelby Cobra on a very "correct looking" 90 inch wheelbase and body, but with slight and tasteful mods. It features a dyno'd 485 horse stroked windsor, in a 2300lb car. Its a roller motor, and I turn it to about 7 grand on occasion, when I feel like taking my life into my hands ...it tries to put power to the ground via 335/35-17s. That car strikes me when I drive it as a "body wrapped around a motor". Now that's not to minimize the Tiger. Of all the cars I have ever had the pleasure of owning, the Tiger probably interests me the most, but I find it interesting what we all define as a motor-focused car. I suppose its all relative to what your used too, or your personal threshold is for adrenaline. Ive seen some Tigers that would beat my kit car Cobra into a pulp on the racetrack so I'm sure they all are their own experience. I truly cant wait to have the Tiger going. Its a big project, probably why its been procrastinated, but it fascinates me for sure. On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light) < mark.rense@ge.com> wrote: > But faster and more reliable... > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] > On > Behalf Of brockctella@juno.com > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 5:20 PM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is > > I've always felt the Tiger is like a four wheel Harley, riding a motor with > gobs of torque. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmccann1972@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 12 21:09:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D074D4044A for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:09:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95C38403EF for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:08:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from optiplex3301 ([unknown] [71.104.80.155]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MT10037BNDXC8A0@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 22:08:22 -0500 (CDT) From: "Thomas Witt" To: References: <26805228D183EF4E9C6F4499BB55B05147D0DCB2@CINMBCNA10.e2k.ad.ge.com> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 20:08:24 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net >>>I have never driven my Tiger....unfortunately. I purchased the car as a >>>barn find and it has gotten shuffled to the back of a few other >>>projects.<<< Been there..., doing that. It will be 14 years "garaged Tiger" come January. I have never even ridden in ANY Tiger yet. Other than my own I have only sat in one other Tiger. That was Tim Ronak's. And that was only because in conversation I stated such and he opened the door and gestured me in. What is it that keeps our Tigers from getting completed??? In my case it has been four interrupting car projects I thought I could get done faster, and cheaper (but, no, not really). It has been three, month long trips back East. It has been termites running rampant on my home. It has been a new roof that was needed too soon. It has been homeschooling two kids. It has been a failed economy that has cut my income nearly 75%. And, it has just been getting older and slower. Not to hijack this thread (start a new one to reply) but how many others have long running Tiger projects that sit, and Sit and SIT? Tom >I have never driven my Tiger....unfortunately. I purchased the car as a > barn find and it has gotten shuffled to the back of a few other projects. > > I have however been for a few rides in basically stock 260 tigers, or even > slightly modified Tigers, but I wouldnt have characterized them as you all > are. More elegant for me, some muscular, less of the beast that Im reading > about here. Certainly more guts and grunt than a spitfire or an MG ( as so > many people tend to compare them too, not my interpretation, but > others..). > > One of my "projects" now completed is a replica Shelby Cobra on a very > "correct looking" 90 inch wheelbase and body, but with slight and tasteful > mods. It features a dyno'd 485 horse stroked windsor, in a 2300lb car. Its > a roller motor, and I turn it to about 7 grand on occasion, when I feel > like taking my life into my hands ...it tries to put power to the ground > via 335/35-17s. That car strikes me when I drive it as a "body wrapped > around a motor". Now that's not to minimize the Tiger. Of all the cars I > have ever had the pleasure of owning, the Tiger probably interests me the > most, but I find it interesting what we all define as a motor-focused car. > I suppose its all relative to what your used too, or your personal > threshold is for adrenaline. Ive seen some Tigers that would beat my kit > car Cobra into a pulp on the racetrack so I'm sure they all are their own > experience. I truly cant wait to have the Tiger going. Its a big project, > probably why its been procrastinated, but it fascinates me for sure. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 12 21:24:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA05940435 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:24:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm47-vm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm47-vm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.219]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7E8F403F3 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:24:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm47.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 03:24:27 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.242] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 03:24:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1051.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 03:24:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 11381 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Sep 2013 03:24:26 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379042666; bh=K5Km8xgWBRjxApYWRBbnm24ljjG5VJvKIgDU/jgIrwI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DwDABX+zUIQJgYv5oj93WMqj7kSPptsVB4WJyC/AZ/6uQr8g4CR3Ia9tkg9l1Wk9f8fysbl+vWwir5FxbqT9wz1I9lBxpjEAlC/wKTPN6c7Vk1CNYcBDpXv249nUiX4zI2FJDZsjPgyYKW9+gXQgQwEYzm0PLQMP483ZM5KSkmA= s=s1024; d=rogers.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=W2bnTzyASK0jYGevSKWB+dVoV0I1CTK1CPqnRBHBZfbiKM5dlDQahea/aQpF0D8uBVhOut0E/kWITQ6pxyyLYE90XogKCwQbXz+bfTxf6iFaW4OcBJ8UtLxQZlbMZR9XOwqWhlaNvtvGsvevnAnqq3fv1RYjh11dBIuAIdyeKiM=; YzPNJN16V.67BC.1cW5NNP5op.RSQyTondMNvU4oqwW.jC5DopcQLzHK8zte sVlFcQJt27ZifGuMsDlA7epEOrax8wh5m2OeyMzKLBQZZs4foFymMEjgpSBg YHhVlRihjJ.xoJGya97BA_EwxHeLp4kSba9yICsgyogWMBGjw6WWcReGviet CBZwrcZ3YGLLlB8cHfbSrC5E9W8d4fmbV1WbcRFkOQPBwAIPcna3K7zdk.ZD rQdGNwljM7yAKg8dVw60PCd8MysyVP1z.nhkY.On3NIN09LTrubIOU5hJGM7 Vp90ijWWqMCS4d_kjnzpJjmi4BMZ8qlt5.9AWWfsJbWM9o_WLaZ0pq1k2.dB AuaPbwPp9XfFoPFLBJp0HHTh7n_C7f1FUhjL8sv_I0PuP.6JhXCPHGl4F_zq _RgDt.eV7WarXeeDoOQrCWcSr.aorQPbCnY8eDXa_dKz82hX1pf8_d6CPyuO 4TW2G2a6cPIz8rsVWLcBslXH1pFawin.uPnA.TmOCslf4hu10n.76OuaHkhY i0HmQuvHchx.pQPfyR3cGEeCitgGs4qUBiSD8flyULmA8tma3X7RH.aBOFdx ZqK89l7YauSBfMqr_YYhDZORVMZ8xYsps89HO.I8GG_8nyH_hKBeU3hQOZA- - Received: from [99.241.154.113] by web162103.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 20:24:26 PDT Qm91Z2h0IG15IFRpZ2VyIGluIDE5NjcsIGRyb3ZlIHthYnVzZWR9wqBpdCBmb3IgMyBvciA0IHllYXJzLiBQYXJrZWQgaXQuIFN0YXJ0ZWQgdG8gZG8gdGhlIHJlc3RvcmF0aW9uLiBLaWRzLCBob3VzZSwgYnVzaW5lc3MgYWxsIGdvdCBpbiB0aGUgd2F5LiBJIGhhdmUgYSBzaW5nbGUgY2FyIGdhcmFnZSBidXQgSSBhbSBkZXRlcm1pbmVkIHRvIHN0YXJ0IGFnYWluIHNvb24uIAoKSnVzdCBuZWVkIHRvIHVuIGJ1cnkgaXQuCgpGcm9tOiBUaG9tYXMgV2l0dCA8YXR3aXR0c2VuZEB2ZXJpem9uLm5ldD4KVG86IHQBMAEBAQE- References: <26805228D183EF4E9C6F4499BB55B05147D0DCB2@CINMBCNA10.e2k.ad.ge.com> <25C852221D7045E0BCF244A399025B7B@optiplex3301> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 20:24:26 -0700 (PDT) From: DAVID MUELLER To: Thomas Witt , "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Bought my Tiger in 1967, drove {abused} it for 3 or 4 years. Parked it. Started to do the restoration. Kids, house, business all got in the way. I have a single car garage but I am determined to start again soon. Just need to un bury it. From: Thomas Witt To: tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:08:24 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is Not to hijack this thread (start a new one to reply) but how many others have long running Tiger projects that sit, and Sit and SIT? Tom tigers@autox.team.net Donate: Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/dmueller0503@rogers.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 12 23:56:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA08D40435 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 23:56:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624FE403F5 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 23:54:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TerriPC ([unknown] [71.109.102.9]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MT100F8LV3EG810@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 00:54:51 -0500 (CDT) From: "Kirk Smith" To: References: <26805228D183EF4E9C6F4499BB55B05147D0DCB2@CINMBCNA10.e2k.ad.ge.com> <25C852221D7045E0BCF244A399025B7B@optiplex3301> Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 22:54:25 -0700 Thread-index: Ac6wLpvZDjNdSKfgRkOhCe5LDteL/QAFt2lg Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Really, Tom? Never ridden in a Tiger? I had no idea...we'll have to fix that! -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Thomas Witt Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:08 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is >>>I have never driven my Tiger....unfortunately. I purchased the car as >>>a barn find and it has gotten shuffled to the back of a few other >>>projects.<<< Been there..., doing that. It will be 14 years "garaged Tiger" come January. I have never even ridden in ANY Tiger yet. Other than my own I have only sat in one other Tiger. That was Tim Ronak's. And that was only because in conversation I stated such and he opened the door and gestured me in. What is it that keeps our Tigers from getting completed??? In my case it has been four interrupting car projects I thought I could get done faster, and cheaper (but, no, not really). It has been three, month long trips back East. It has been termites running rampant on my home. It has been a new roof that was needed too soon. It has been homeschooling two kids. It has been a failed economy that has cut my income nearly 75%. And, it has just been getting older and slower. Not to hijack this thread (start a new one to reply) but how many others have long running Tiger projects that sit, and Sit and SIT? Tom >I have never driven my Tiger....unfortunately. I purchased the car as a >barn find and it has gotten shuffled to the back of a few other projects. > > I have however been for a few rides in basically stock 260 tigers, or > even slightly modified Tigers, but I wouldnt have characterized them > as you all are. More elegant for me, some muscular, less of the beast > that Im reading about here. Certainly more guts and grunt than a > spitfire or an MG ( as so many people tend to compare them too, not my > interpretation, but others..). > > One of my "projects" now completed is a replica Shelby Cobra on a very > "correct looking" 90 inch wheelbase and body, but with slight and > tasteful mods. It features a dyno'd 485 horse stroked windsor, in a > 2300lb car. Its a roller motor, and I turn it to about 7 grand on > occasion, when I feel like taking my life into my hands ...it tries to > put power to the ground via 335/35-17s. That car strikes me when I > drive it as a "body wrapped around a motor". Now that's not to > minimize the Tiger. Of all the cars I have ever had the pleasure of > owning, the Tiger probably interests me the most, but I find it interesting what we all define as a motor-focused car. > I suppose its all relative to what your used too, or your personal > threshold is for adrenaline. Ive seen some Tigers that would beat my > kit car Cobra into a pulp on the racetrack so I'm sure they all are > their own experience. I truly cant wait to have the Tiger going. Its a > big project, probably why its been procrastinated, but it fascinates me for sure. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/twotigers@verizon.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 00:12:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1001340517 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 00:12:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f45.google.com (mail-oa0-f45.google.com [209.85.219.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FA81403F5; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 00:06:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id m6so772466oag.18 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2013 23:06:17 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to:references :in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date :content-type:mime-version; bh=4r5AActnKFB28e46YltH8L4VFmCf9n3RuVbY4Ok+s90=; b=SFrYz2Ga0PA6Qdu77Nq+rsM0rIO6AFt/D1MmUxhjtwPZnZXkrfLFrcM+paluXqSZ71 xxnqYxZgDTaahXp8v/pO6IWaeNKENY3APS+ii5WgEadsPdpMlohweYyHbdgnNs8ZcT3b Tu35y0ZZAzFLgrXcwYYycffllA/i8raCj0xrDpQyyPZxoo9X/magatrWwpE5cd6DbXAF EB/sGYzNTqbCcjMu309+xzhk1G41ILFmbiBwe98lTPR6JLc/0ib1JwUnPhEevXXUEezH 2MXYQEkAymbfj9NPcD74J4HgxkeLP5AAQ8DGZWR3JR+twRbgOYMj+7BQm1t7mP9N4Szp +AXQ== Thu, 12 Sep 2013 23:06:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.187 (bda-74-82-80-176.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bq4sm11493005obb.1.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 12 Sep 2013 23:06:17 -0700 (PDT) References: <26805228D183EF4E9C6F4499BB55B05147D0DCB2@CINMBCNA10.e2k.ad.ge.com> <25C852221D7045E0BCF244A399025B7B@optiplex3301> <000001ceb045$b479db80$1d6d9280$@net> Sensitivity: Normal To: "Kirk Smith" , tigers-bounces@autox.team.net, tigers@autox.team.net From: jay.laifman@gmail.com Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 06:06:13 +0000 Subject: Re: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net No kidding. Are you anywhere near LA? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: "Kirk Smith" To: Subject: Re: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is Really, Tom? Never ridden in a Tiger? I had no idea...we'll have to fix that! -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Thomas Witt Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 8:08 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is >>>I have never driven my Tiger....unfortunately. I purchased the car as >>>a barn find and it has gotten shuffled to the back of a few other >>>projects.<<< Been there..., doing that. It will be 14 years "garaged Tiger" come January. I have never even ridden in ANY Tiger yet. Other than my own I have only sat in one other Tiger. That was Tim Ronak's. And that was only because in conversation I stated such and he opened the door and gestured me in. What is it that keeps our Tigers from getting completed??? In my case it has been four interrupting car projects I thought I could get done faster, and cheaper (but, no, not really). It has been three, month long trips back East. It has been termites running rampant on my home. It has been a new roof that was needed too soon. It has been homeschooling two kids. It has been a failed economy that has cut my income nearly 75%. And, it has just been getting older and slower. Not to hijack this thread (start a new one to reply) but how many others have long running Tiger projects that sit, and Sit and SIT? Tom >I have never driven my Tiger....unfortunately. I purchased the car as a >barn find and it has gotten shuffled to the back of a few other projects. > > I have however been for a few rides in basically stock 260 tigers, or > even slightly modified Tigers, but I wouldnt have characterized them > as you all are. More elegant for me, some muscular, less of the beast > that Im reading about here. Certainly more guts and grunt than a > spitfire or an MG ( as so many people tend to compare them too, not my > interpretation, but others..). > > One of my "projects" now completed is a replica Shelby Cobra on a very > "correct looking" 90 inch wheelbase and body, but with slight and > tasteful mods. It features a dyno'd 485 horse stroked windsor, in a > 2300lb car. Its a roller motor, and I turn it to about 7 grand on > occasion, when I feel like taking my life into my hands ...it tries to > put power to the ground via 335/35-17s. That car strikes me when I > drive it as a "body wrapped around a motor". Now that's not to > minimize the Tiger. Of all the cars I have ever had the pleasure of > owning, the Tiger probably interests me the most, but I find it interesting what we all define as a motor-focused car. > I suppose its all relative to what your used too, or your personal > threshold is for adrenaline. Ive seen some Tigers that would beat my > kit car Cobra into a pulp on the racetrack so I'm sure they all are > their own experience. I truly cant wait to have the Tiger going. Its a > big project, probably why its been procrastinated, but it fascinates me for sure. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/twotigers@verizon.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 07:23:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652394044A for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 07:23:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D26B403D4 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 07:20:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta001.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r8DDHEOu031025; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 06:20:40 -0700 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4348622d) id dm0213.520b1585.3fdfdc; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 06:20:35 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.150.86]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:20:34 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Thomas Witt'" , Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:20:27 -0400 Thread-index: Ac6wLqJnCZxAIqLlSQ6KoWVa8r83/wAUTIcg engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-13_05:2013-09-13,2013-09-13,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309130053 Subject: [Tigers] The never ending project Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tom Complain, complain, complain - Life happens. :) Probably most of us have been in your position. I either had money and no time or I had time but no money. I farmed body work and metal repairs to a shop. I had money saved but not the talent to fix major sheet metal. I had time to work on the mechanicals since I was out of work. The money drained quickly. The main Tiger project took about 10 years. I took the Tiger for state inspected with 1 mirror, 1 seat with seat belts, no top of any kind in place; it passed - I wanted to drive and I did. Reality is that my Tiger is not now totally completed as I see it, 35 years and counting; may never be totally completed in my life time. I'm very fussy about some of these little things, others not so much but it is ready to drive - NUTS its raining out right now or I would go for a drive. Soldier on Tom - try to focus on the Tiger - keep it at the top of the To Do List - only add new projects to the bottom of the list. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Thomas Witt Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:08 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is >>>I have never driven my Tiger....unfortunately. I purchased the car as >>>a >>>barn find and it has gotten shuffled to the back of a few other >>>projects.<<< Been there..., doing that. It will be 14 years "garaged Tiger" come January. I have never even ridden in ANY Tiger yet. Other than my own I have only sat in one other Tiger. That was Tim Ronak's. And that was only because in conversation I stated such and he opened the door and gestured me in. What is it that keeps our Tigers from getting completed??? In my case it has been four interrupting car projects I thought I could get done faster, and cheaper (but, no, not really). It has been three, month long trips back East. It has been termites running rampant on my home. It has been a new roof that was needed too soon. It has been homeschooling two kids. It has been a failed economy that has cut my income nearly 75%. And, it has just been getting older and slower. Not to hijack this thread (start a new one to reply) but how many others have long running Tiger projects that sit, and Sit and SIT? Tom >I have never driven my Tiger....unfortunately. I purchased the car as a >barn find and it has gotten shuffled to the back of a few other >projects. > > I have however been for a few rides in basically stock 260 tigers, or > even slightly modified Tigers, but I wouldnt have characterized them > as you all are. More elegant for me, some muscular, less of the beast > that Im reading about here. Certainly more guts and grunt than a > spitfire or an MG ( as so many people tend to compare them too, not my > interpretation, but others..). > > One of my "projects" now completed is a replica Shelby Cobra on a very > "correct looking" 90 inch wheelbase and body, but with slight and > tasteful mods. It features a dyno'd 485 horse stroked windsor, in a > 2300lb car. Its a roller motor, and I turn it to about 7 grand on > occasion, when I feel like taking my life into my hands ...it tries to > put power to the ground via 335/35-17s. That car strikes me when I > drive it as a "body wrapped around a motor". Now that's not to > minimize the Tiger. Of all the cars I have ever had the pleasure of > owning, the Tiger probably interests me the most, but I find it > interesting what we all define as a motor-focused car. I suppose its > all relative to what your used too, or your personal threshold is for > adrenaline. Ive seen some Tigers that would beat my kit car Cobra into > a pulp on the racetrack so I'm sure they all are their own experience. > I truly cant wait to have the Tiger going. Its a big project, probably > why its been procrastinated, but it fascinates me for sure. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 07:25:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A23340549 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 07:25:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d09.mx.aol.com (omr-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8AA403DB for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 07:25:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.201]) by omr-d09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 02B4C700000AB; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:25:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mlc001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mlc001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.207]) by mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C1362E000089; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:25:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Carmods@aol.com Full-name: Carmods Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:25:11 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net, atwittsend@verizon.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1379078711; bh=pToNWaky0GV/K3K4/WaP7BT6mUz9Ew2M/mv9disRcZc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=w7st16AEVHVREbCXQgRjQx9p/JluzUaNktonV5e6DnPkw6ZNj17shzT1/v1O5FlHc rrmOX76Xosho2WzI4Jx+WH51g1hMRwqbaNCwlcySce9esmSeWbMQgGawITP5IHNBAh 3w2WkdZ3T7PKWSOSrzV/O92CgYRWVLAAEKA82AdU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c95233123775ec Subject: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 9/12/2013 11:09:14 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, atwittsend@verizon.net writes: Been there..., doing that. It will be 14 years "garaged Tiger" come January. I have never even ridden in ANY Tiger yet. Other than my own I have only sat in one other Tiger. That was Tim Ronak's. And that was only because in conversation I stated such and he opened the door and gestured me in. Hi Tom, If you live anywhere next to Detroit, I'll come over and give you a Tiger ride. John Logan _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 08:46:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 269BC40530 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:46:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc3-s4.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s4.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95F024006D for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:46:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY177-DS4 ([65.54.190.187]) by bay0-omc3-s4.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 13 Sep 2013 07:46:12 -0700 From: David or Gary Franchi To: tigers@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:46:11 GMT FILETIME=[FD84BDF0:01CEB08F] Subject: [Tigers] Fake Tiger or VIN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net This auction was cancelled, Check out the home made VIN. David ? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Sunbeam-Tiger-2-Door-Convertible-1965-Sunbeam-Tiger-/261279626175?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cd57ab3bf#v4-42 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 09:51:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E067040417 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:51:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f52.google.com (mail-pa0-f52.google.com [209.85.220.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A77A42968 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:03:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id kq13so2617361pab.25 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:03:53 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=nFYkEwYDFXVBwkdE7krvvQio2Pws24DE0PtF/KwxusI=; b=QtyChxjd/wuWxzEe8Su2zBATeMi/o9/m7xYwdrGAoS+FDonTrGxIFG0PwLsrqit7Xv CVODl4St+uWWwy6OxqvXonmjBqDh3TU3ABpKODf13HEDV10VvwzTvB/unzVUI7lz3iv5 W5dRFatILZ9GYnho0W/j6GUTDOKnK9GMwGs2uPHETD4YnTYy9OPcrSOQjF8iOBHLxygC nx9P4/w7T4HduKV43MwSJhKogC7bQ/AeN1CZkutT150DHsqyqc9U+MTcOiYNPnBc3CJH zsnOFEdYY+dgnPLka4so3E1xgbbxBSYjO5ws6lEePybCWCCBIo2sY8DjHmE/gQBCeFUM i9LQ== gs6mr15606049pac.49.1379084633063; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:03:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.126.197 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:03:53 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:03:53 -0500 From: Cullen McCann To: David or Gary Franchi Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fake Tiger or VIN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net ....and home made JAL tag too. interesting. sure looks like a correct tiger otherwise to me. Geez... probably him or a PO pulled the tags to paint, lost em. one 30 second decision from an average joe body man and cars proveance and market value is compromised forever. i had my car stripped when i got it, and had some metal work done. i put a big piece of tape over the tags that wrote in sharpie, DO NOT REMOVE TAGS, REGARDLESS! ...went into check on my progress at one point and the tape was gone, and they were just getting ready to pull them off.... i about went bizzerk. and promptly they all thought i was an idiot for caring so much. luckily my tags survived in place and have never been off the car. but people just done get it. Cullen 1452 LROFE TAC 840 On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:46 AM, David or Gary Franchi wrote: > This auction was cancelled, Check out the home made VIN. > > David > ? > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Sunbeam-Tiger-2-Door-Convertible-1965-Sunbeam-Tiger-/261279626175?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cd57ab3bf#v4-42 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmccann1972@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 09:52:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED22B40453 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:52:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f171.google.com (mail-vc0-f171.google.com [209.85.220.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC7E40046 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:04:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id ij15so1012067vcb.2 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:04:30 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=NkKG/qY31Z+hQOlSZBtqZW2Vs3m3mGhkNVAlHtPRjFw=; b=RoE4pU6UEtMEPkB53dfm90TULrmoV9fbMw00ObzcQ1gJm3uolpiBAV6wRokhodj6Hq V2+tjL2GJDZ8D/a3bWnD24sADTXZcSzqw8alev/VOlcnFcPp0R4gvZOkMT6Z2+7njHbm fyyOfokFJ3/shnxYKR44Pmb2rgFl1Q4MRfE87Al3/igJQz7RRiCYx/1LNev+go04Cl46 xBOktAwHQo8PiC7sV+KCCG6XZYIBblKrZ0RlgAfZLPZsqsiOzwd9lZC+OJVk0K5iubXO USo5Sxzq0AVM68bohp6FbhdT16o2YZgZhOQTYwP0aDikPOnpRV77ktiEbO29KRcK21WO krRw== so9mr6265694vdc.27.1379084670121; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:04:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.104.84 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:04:30 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:04:30 -0400 From: Owain Lloyd To: David or Gary Franchi Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fake Tiger or VIN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net He must have been drunk. I like the JAL that matches the VIN too. On Friday, September 13, 2013, David or Gary Franchi wrote: > This auction was cancelled, Check out the home made VIN. > > David > ? > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Sunbeam-Tiger-2-Door-Convertible-1965-Sunbeam-Tiger-/261279626175?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cd57ab3bf#v4-42 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 09:53:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4487E4053F for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:53:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 17EFA4054D for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:08:06 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1379084876; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=To:Date:Subject:Content-Type:From:Message-Id; b=cfPpzCfI5hqPJWW0Am+Gxszp3kh2I2vQaD/Vb+l3PEbr03PgjnzxPcQgtXuSAZ002 5eypBJc5RuRHrVMipXyuijhkx1gSWsduaVxRr6B+SenzS33YkECPmXSwsejj8fA84a LP/vd2ouA12Akhq8P+vWJjwIrxXsWDs2b709aKs8= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (mailpop07.vgs.untd.com [10.181.45.27]) by smtpout02.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABKDGLTXAPP6JGJ for (sender ); Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:07:33 -0700 (PDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:08:22 -0800 From: Subject: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net After doing the recent Tigers United Big Bear Tiger Quiz, I found Wikipedia had some glaring misinformation on Tigers. ...not a lot of misinfo, but enough to make it worth attempting a fix. It seems people are just copying text from books that are incorrect. Because Wiki is a convenient source for info, I feel a bit of an obligation as a Tiger fanatic to remove info that I know is incorrect. ...and / or shed light on misleading info. I recently made some changes that were immediately undone by 2 individuals, based on their beliefs in published "fact"....I assume. So this is THE PLACE to sort out any misinformation, ...in my mind, to start anyway. ...and POLICE the resources, as best WE can. I know some of you have "been there and done that" with Wiki, I guess it's my turn...with a little help, mostly on the weekends. I would like to see the results of EACH of you checking Wiki for info you KNOW is wrong, And getting back to me (spmdr@juno.com). THIS IS AN ON GOING CONCERN. ...at this point, early on, even a BATTLE! I don't know how log I can keep up the fight, but I plan to check Wiki EVERY weekday morning And defend the changes I made. One problem is the way Wiki works, or as far as I'm concerned, does not... I have not added MY ( as it turns out, the OLD info, Tiger- Mike Taylor, BON) sources to the mix on Wiki. ...I have not taken the time to LEARN how to add other resources to the list on Wiki. ...any help there would be GREAT. I don't claim to have FIXED all the misinfo about Tigers but I have started the task. Thanks for the soap box.. DW ____________________________________________________________ One Weird Trick Could add $1,000s to Your Social Security Checks! See if you Qualify… http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/52332a35a76252a3548c2st02vuc _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 10:29:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C2D34053D for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:29:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc3-s22.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s22.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.160]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 558F740443 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:29:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY178-W32 ([65.54.190.189]) by bay0-omc3-s22.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:29:47 -0700 From: John Crawley To: LIST TIGER Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:29:46 +0000 References: FILETIME=[766169E0:01CEB09E] Subject: Re: [Tigers] What a TIGER really is Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jay: I love your thoughts on driving a TIGER and with your permission will often quote it as the best description of what I feel . . . your dad would be proud. As to those who have never ridden in a TIGER, drop by and you can drive mine. I encourage every TIGER owner to let anyone who is interested drive their car. I now have three people who had hardly heard of TIGERs who now own one after driving mine. This is the best way to promote our fascination for these wonderful little beasts. For all of you with TIGERs that are works in progress all I can do is encourage you to go at it  one part at a time, one or more parts every day. Doing this for three years I built my car from a junkyard wreck that was missing from behind the front wheels forward into a car that I have driven for twenty years. We have driven it for 60,000 long, hard and fast miles in all kinds of weather including rain, sleet and snow. Of the 300+ cars that I have owned the TIGER is the most fun to go down the road in. When it is worn out I pray that I will have time and energy left to restore it and do it all again, and if I do not then perhaps like Steve Laifman my son will take it over. Godspeed in Safety Fast Jc > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On > Behalf Of Jay Laifman > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 4:16 PM > To: Tiger's Den > Subject: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is > > I've been driving the Tiger a bunch lately. It truly is a unique car. > This weekend, it sort of dawned on me why it is feels so different. > > It is all about the engine, more so than any car I've ever driven. It is like > everything else on the car is superfluous, just bolted on around the engine, > along for the ride. As I go down the road, I visualize the engine pulling, > pulling, with everything else kind of flowing in its wake - that is, > everything that happens to be attached to the engine or otherwise strapped > in. > > Either that or I had some funny mushrooms on my burger for lunch! > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 10:34:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6262B40075 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:34:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f182.google.com (mail-ve0-f182.google.com [209.85.128.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 678314003A for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:34:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f182.google.com with SMTP id oy12so1165200veb.41 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:34:08 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=eEqBd95xXqM8WPIOiZzSiFK4xS1Y9jMosDYI2TbJnJE=; b=WFJ3oZc0C9z1rDOAJ4F5KuBqvDoYBDrLIH4q4LuFYk+fWz7tNvfwk7fy74byd+Q0n8 qCaYZ6MtglRtU4F/TP5KrwH+5rURB9EtR3aK+jo11QT7zbtMrEpjAxdCMx+S+ZyLlRqN 5XvarOzC3Dq3degrLtW5CnE24Q1Mhv4H+INjg8KeVzyZuW70OJLCbyfT4hnrGN2MR0jN NxXLdeGasg+aEOcNFvj/1uCK98YLri+rcpj6ZvMVF6+oW657BE994DMp/8rPHkYHjJcq F0GvQC7P3nIBWY7RuiDjZiQRaxiZzpnEWX1qoPYwrfXAEw43vpFwW0N71xpFo8fTlk/t Hgcg== ju10mr10659839vdb.20.1379090048192; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.77.10 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:34:08 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:34:08 -0700 From: Jay Laifman To: spmdr@juno.com Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Dan, I'm behind you 100%. But, hey, if you are going to rant like that, the least you owe us is to tell us the things you're correcting!!!! Jay On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:08 AM, wrote: > After doing the recent Tigers United Big Bear Tiger Quiz, > > I found Wikipedia had some glaring misinformation on Tigers. > > ...not a lot of misinfo, but enough to make it worth attempting a fix. > > It seems people are just copying text from books that are incorrect. > > Because Wiki is a convenient source for info, I feel a bit of an > obligation as a Tiger fanatic > > to remove info that I know is incorrect. > > ...and / or shed light on misleading info. > > I recently made some changes that were immediately undone by 2 > individuals, > > based on their beliefs in published "fact"....I assume. > > So this is THE PLACE to sort out any misinformation, ...in my mind, to > start anyway. > > ...and POLICE the resources, as best WE can. > > I know some of you have "been there and done that" with Wiki, > > I guess it's my turn...with a little help, mostly on the weekends. > > I would like to see the results of EACH of you checking Wiki for info you > KNOW is wrong, > > And getting back to me (spmdr@juno.com). > > THIS IS AN ON GOING CONCERN. > > ...at this point, early on, even a BATTLE! > > I don't know how log I can keep up the fight, but I plan to check Wiki > EVERY weekday morning > > And defend the changes I made. > > One problem is the way Wiki works, or as far as I'm concerned, does > not... > > I have not added MY ( as it turns out, the OLD info, Tiger- Mike Taylor, > BON) sources to the mix on Wiki. > > ...I have not taken the time to LEARN how to add other resources to the > list on Wiki. > > ...any help there would be GREAT. > > I don't claim to have FIXED all the misinfo about Tigers but I have > started the task. > > Thanks for the soap box.. > > DW > > ____________________________________________________________ > One Weird Trick > Could add $1,000s to Your Social Security Checks! See if you Qualify… > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/52332a35a76252a3548c2st02vuc > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 10:59:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A08B4044D for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:59:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 671A2403D4 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:50:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from HPamdX2 ([unknown] [173.58.229.205]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MT200BERPGITKQ0@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:50:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Buck Trippel" To: "Jay Laifman" , References: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:50:30 -0700 Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Dan is quite correct. We should police Wiki. For the past year or so Graham Vickery and I have been quietly trying to do this "behind the scenes". Much incorrect information is in print and I intend to point that out to Mr Robson next summer at SUNI. Hopefully I'll have support. John Morton has a new book about to be released. It contains quite a bit of material on the building of the Shelby prototype and early Tiger racing. Once it's out (3 weeks?) we'll have a new published source for footnotes to support our "corrections". Dan is correct in that we can use everyone's support getting the true story posted. Buck Trippel -----Original Message----- From: Jay Laifman Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 9:34 AM To: spmdr@juno.com Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Hi Dan, I'm behind you 100%. But, hey, if you are going to rant like that, the least you owe us is to tell us the things you're correcting!!!! Jay On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:08 AM, wrote: > After doing the recent Tigers United Big Bear Tiger Quiz, > > I found Wikipedia had some glaring misinformation on Tigers. > > ...not a lot of misinfo, but enough to make it worth attempting a fix. > > It seems people are just copying text from books that are incorrect. > > Because Wiki is a convenient source for info, I feel a bit of an > obligation as a Tiger fanatic > > to remove info that I know is incorrect. > > ...and / or shed light on misleading info. > > I recently made some changes that were immediately undone by 2 > individuals, > > based on their beliefs in published "fact"....I assume. > > So this is THE PLACE to sort out any misinformation, ...in my mind, to > start anyway. > > ...and POLICE the resources, as best WE can. > > I know some of you have "been there and done that" with Wiki, > > I guess it's my turn...with a little help, mostly on the weekends. > > I would like to see the results of EACH of you checking Wiki for info you > KNOW is wrong, > > And getting back to me (spmdr@juno.com). > > THIS IS AN ON GOING CONCERN. > > ...at this point, early on, even a BATTLE! > > I don't know how log I can keep up the fight, but I plan to check Wiki > EVERY weekday morning > > And defend the changes I made. > > One problem is the way Wiki works, or as far as I'm concerned, does > not... > > I have not added MY ( as it turns out, the OLD info, Tiger- Mike Taylor, > BON) sources to the mix on Wiki. > > ...I have not taken the time to LEARN how to add other resources to the > list on Wiki. > > ...any help there would be GREAT. > > I don't claim to have FIXED all the misinfo about Tigers but I have > started the task. > > Thanks for the soap box.. > > DW _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 11:17:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6658040511 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:17:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc3-s9.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s9.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B870B4009B for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:09:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU169-W140 ([65.55.116.74]) by blu0-omc3-s9.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:09:27 -0700 From: Brent Edinger To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:09:26 -0700 References: FILETIME=[009960E0:01CEB0A4] Subject: Re: [Tigers] Never ending project Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tom , I have had my car torn down twice in 34 years and the way I do it is to be sure to do something everyday. No matter how small. Eventually you will run out of things to do. Brent ** On Behalf Of Thomas Witt Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:08 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] What the Tiger really is >>>I have never driven my Tiger....unfortunately. I purchased the car as >>>a >>>barn find and it has gotten shuffled to the back of a few other >>>projects.<<< Been there..., doing that. It will be 14 years "garaged Tiger" come January. I have never even ridden in ANY Tiger yet. Other than my own I have only sat in one other Tiger. That was Tim Ronak's. And that was only because in conversation I stated such and he opened the door and gestured me in. What is it that keeps our Tigers from getting completed??? In my case it has been four interrupting car projects I thought I could get done faster, and cheaper (but, no, not really). It has been three, month long trips back East. It has been termites running rampant on my home. It has been a new roof that was needed too soon. It has been homeschooling two kids. It has been a failed economy that has cut my income nearly 75%. And, it has just been getting older and slower. Not to hijack this thread (start a new one to reply) but how many others have long running Tiger projects that sit, and Sit and SIT? Tom >I have never driven my Tiger....unfortunately. I purchased the car as a >barn find and it has gotten shuffled to the back of a few other >projects. > > I have however been for a few rides in basically stock 260 tigers, or > even slightly modified Tigers, but I wouldnt have characterized them > as you all are. More elegant for me, some muscular, less of the beast > that Im reading about here. Certainly more guts and grunt than a > spitfire or an MG ( as so many people tend to compare them too, not my > interpretation, but others..). > > One of my "projects" now completed is a replica Shelby Cobra on a very > "correct looking" 90 inch wheelbase and body, but with slight and > tasteful mods. It features a dyno'd 485 horse stroked windsor, in a > 2300lb car. Its a roller motor, and I turn it to about 7 grand on > occasion, when I feel like taking my life into my hands ...it tries to > put power to the ground via 335/35-17s. That car strikes me when I > drive it as a "body wrapped around a motor". Now that's not to > minimize the Tiger. Of all the cars I have ever had the pleasure of > owning, the Tiger probably interests me the most, but I find it > interesting what we all define as a motor-focused car. I suppose its > all relative to what your used too, or your personal threshold is for > adrenaline. Ive seen some Tigers that would beat my kit car Cobra into > a pulp on the racetrack so I'm sure they all are their own experience. > I truly cant wait to have the Tiger going. Its a big project, probably > why its been procrastinated, but it fascinates me for sure. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 11:17:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 257C54054D for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:17:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d10.mx.aol.com (omr-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2483403CF for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:15:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by omr-d10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 97032700496DB for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:15:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mld005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mld005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.122.83]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5AEB8E00009B for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:15:00 -0400 (EDT) From: CoolVT@aol.com Full-name: CoolVT Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:15:00 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1379092500; bh=vvXzJoBz4Ij4Dl7MPPCaJ1WsADsWmsUM69h96cEwuv4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zPSFY18zJgC/wpbhbqULgm0B/UXOcfjCAjDkAhIh2d43TPj90k+UlmNE/W28tyvgK La/wahvz6V5u/XT4yJzsy7FUq/hv1Wj3EGPIbkXpcJoS7Z0HHMExtbh1iyygKXzdb3 pBFK0OJHxk+Di973SdrTVyWbNz8FH73HUo+0t8Rw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29085233481436f2 Subject: [Tigers] Ken Miles Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net There just aren't many Tigers in Vermont so I am quite used to people wanting to talk and look at the car when I have it out. A few weeks back an older guy approached me in a parking lot and told me that he worked for an MG dealer way back and the dealership sponsored an MG in some race or another. Said he remembers well Shelby and Ken Miles being in the pits next to the MG's (Shelby and Miles with a Tiger). As a side note he said Miles was a big MG guy. He didn't seem to know much about Tigers at all, but remembered that although Shelby wasn't driving, he definitely wanted to run things;-) Mark L _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 11:31:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D765440524 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:31:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C77140409 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:23:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from optiplex3301 ([unknown] [71.104.80.155]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MT200GFAQZ4CPD0@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:23:28 -0500 (CDT) From: "Thomas Witt" To: References: <68D5DD76912C422B826DD4DE99C15730@HPamdX2> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:23:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net >>>John Morton has a new book about to be released. It contains quite a bit >>>of material on the building of the Shelby prototype and early Tiger >>>racing.<<< "The Book of Morton???" :-) Keep us posted. Tom > Dan is quite correct. We should police Wiki. > > For the past year or so Graham Vickery and I have been quietly trying to > do this "behind the scenes". > > Much incorrect information is in print and I intend to point that out to > Mr Robson next summer at SUNI. Hopefully I'll have support. > > John Morton has a new book about to be released. It contains quite a bit > of material on the building of the Shelby prototype and early Tiger > racing. Once it's out (3 weeks?) we'll have a new published source for > footnotes to support our "corrections". > > Dan is correct in that we can use everyone's support getting the true > story posted. > > Buck Trippel _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 11:36:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB3040443 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:36:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958774040F for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:36:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta002.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r8DHWMZO016397; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:36:21 -0700 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4348622f) id dm0213.520b1585.405515; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:36:14 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.148.135]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 17:36:14 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'David or Gary Franchi'" , Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:36:00 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6wkASknTfMVkHmQ0uP8EaW5Z/GRQAFydIg engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-13_06:2013-09-13,2013-09-13,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309130089 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fake Tiger or VIN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net A very nice looking car. A very interesting alternator mount; someone got creative there and is that reinforced clear water hose for the brake booster that looks like its been sucked flat! Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David or Gary Franchi Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:46 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Fake Tiger or VIN This auction was cancelled, Check out the home made VIN. David ? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Sunbeam-Tiger-2-Door-Convertible- 1965-Sunbeam-Tiger-/261279626175?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cd57ab3bf#v4-42 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 11:46:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D1A40441 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:46:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37C454040F for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:38:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 17:38:16 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.132] by nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 17:35:20 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.148] by tm20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 17:35:20 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.201] by tm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 17:35:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 17:35:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 41389 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Sep 2013 17:35:20 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379093720; bh=M0G2CJwZViKdGuCsL8oupwRcMIrPZM2I5TkxB5+RCCU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=UiAEiBMgwIgJP/pJEieMxJnV1K81XRq82bepc+47MKqVep3GLrx6l7Jfz4xnHKhbIHUqeJikqXfQptbUKuMLfASK3wB/X3dBOHHp0xPe5wdtMp/UREboCH9sZ8xeNWf6nTmRJROQYU/8PCX5RpQTsaIrx+WmZf0izWeWPE9oBfU= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ui37MyeEma4dsJqyH1xZ8+ug5/ej6qq+YaqGndCH98rZFYmnw78FpVCY7AQgyY9oPSIS1al2V006fJdk82/nv1mJyWMX1ijZoAWlvQY+yEa9RBQu83XuhWaWMibFPAW13yrgwwfPyOlNaPGofo/xEzoXRrxV3FX7p107dFfEvqY=; OC1Fl0.h8p9DqdLCwPikbd7vkE1OubpT.zXiDq5raeu5cRypuMbdZz4ckk6X GhtXS3qd5UUvcnZlyHjBZiW0zBT8pdmnsL11TyzCQJJz.4V3lw9VaWjqaJSg FLE4hdkxAW0JJhiWfL0zj2h3GgvWvsTiS_ZUFJrJ81PkB2MdjWvE_2tZiyvH W1x0le3ypAkl7nr53taDusTRl0_uJ71jZRh4V7sJcYUiwpuDqazqAmyGE_1s fHJYALP2J8fuIJmPkoLbk.AOxvwNLcsFNWdLznh1jg9Y0GTy7C_HL16gF7wy rKgufBiA3Ysp4RXoyw6mkATjwGjM3j6GhRx8keu7ut_gxUnC7vBAm2oAWVmU GNnI2i04szMd0pNkudFMkgzGCt65dEPpHomi7Pk12N4MEFMmcp.EEN.m5z4E 2ShK.Sk1T5VeOH_Oi.0V4Ud5b6ubxK_YCiNvdz4cCMagk3FJbfg4S9DbBLKj tWktzY2NKeBwz9tRzUQgAZVfI.W0iUB2Z2nbug1vot00C6n7_IxO8kOPEwdy f7Bh2 Received: from [173.48.171.26] by web161001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:35:19 PDT QXMgSSBwb3N0ZWQgdG8gdGhlIEZyYW5jaGkgYnJvcywgaW4gdGhlIGVuZMKgIGl0IGRvZXNuJ3QgbWF0dGVyIGFib3V0IHRoZSB0YWdzLCBpZiBzb21lb25lIHdlIGtuZXcgd2FzIGludGVyZXN0ZWQgaW4gdGhpcyBjYXIsIHdlIHdvdWxkIHN1Z2dlc3Qgc2VuZGluZyBhIENBVAptZW1iZXIgd2hvIGNvdWxkIHRlbGwgKCBJIHRoaW5rIHRoZSBjYXIgaXMgaW4gTG9uZyBCZWFjaD8pIGFuZCBjaGVjayBpdCBvdXQuCgpSYW5kZQoBMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:35:19 -0700 (PDT) From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tigers - fake ID's Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net As I posted to the Franchi bros, in the end it doesn't matter about the tags, if someone we knew was interested in this car, we would suggest sending a CAT member who could tell ( I think the car is in Long Beach?) and check it out. Rande _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 11:47:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D291B40554 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:47:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f47.google.com (mail-vb0-f47.google.com [209.85.212.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6833040407 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:46:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f47.google.com with SMTP id h10so1166601vbh.6 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:46:03 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=TfkzNy/N2FP1bz37KDkYbzJ9FgnXUpHz0RZlL8z+k60=; b=sL+SrofRujb1CNTae26Ze3lewYOYPT1XHNzzbZlqKRYd6AP5mFzyvN3948/Y42gOxf +R25oH01Wk7uDMwMR1e95nvjnOJAaELmw6gcgAh9aWNN+O9bP03oA0bLDtKKPcnskq8t ZdkTNyP66x8JIHe9wGLAPRgPbeyXHXokHvZGcDY+OSWHupI/JxCyNx6Z4r4nO2LeP0gs RO25AYZyektDR1fRUvlsG+iRknpgyh/wnjh0S7yHYi6LFyKHCyfOdv9jHGC+XlhIvkMr XnAH+C7y3Ha4w6pNgvlMhFYpA1orS1Y9xa2M3lR3fJQpq63pj4rQZqP+b4duNE9gQ23n whkQ== cz5mr2261510vdb.30.1379094363136; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.104.84 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:46:03 -0700 (PDT) References: <68D5DD76912C422B826DD4DE99C15730@HPamdX2> <62D302B9F05F4D30BA7EAC7B5B14DD3B@optiplex3301> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:46:03 -0400 From: Owain Lloyd To: Thomas Witt Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks. I just preordered on amazon. They say nov 18th release date. On Friday, September 13, 2013, Thomas Witt wrote: > John Morton has a new book about to be released. It contains quite a bit >>>> of material on the building of the Shelby prototype and early Tiger >>>> racing.<<< >>>> >>> > "The Book of Morton???" :-) Keep us posted. > > Tom > > > Dan is quite correct. We should police Wiki. >> >> For the past year or so Graham Vickery and I have been quietly trying to >> do this "behind the scenes". >> >> Much incorrect information is in print and I intend to point that out to >> Mr Robson next summer at SUNI. Hopefully I'll have support. >> >> John Morton has a new book about to be released. It contains quite a bit >> of material on the building of the Shelby prototype and early Tiger racing. >> Once it's out (3 weeks?) we'll have a new published source for footnotes >> to support our "corrections". >> >> Dan is correct in that we can use everyone's support getting the true >> story posted. >> >> Buck Trippel >> > ______________________________**_________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/tigers/owain.lloyd@** > gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 12:04:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9599F4051C for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:04:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F298840430 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:01:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 18:01:49 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.130] by nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 17:59:11 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.174] by tm18.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 17:59:11 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.245] by tm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 17:59:10 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1054.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 17:59:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 57177 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Sep 2013 17:59:10 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379095150; bh=fSqiCUbs7fZvns5MdY2VJt7nThV0KdFlPBIor2ijBIc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bIWCUddxqgT4GPDylhQvghyI7oUTFJ13ZmEO4qBWj/gmpDrD861sF/NlRwFBKIRqGAeXn3iclYu5tif92NRmIelO6bCusdgOAVU/ivtPERQ9DNXBgkfEsZL3yjHO6J0/kY7SbA107tYRbWo4Ys3nGIiqGyq883/wsQgGIB9iODM= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BQUhAbBNEK40vKqEHEasR2DB96G3N3dtBGPUHRn1kOtG/1j+d0YZpmRbhToXD/24WlHaf9TiDU6jZEBpkejADQlsjNLq2c7E7BfykqFWpxRJs5+BvHg/nZqTq6/4wsk9tPA1rEyi3CLJaNjGcTOcsAOa8kRIBwBZ4Giv5Cb5nrc=; YYIUQkPIWQ2qKdQwec9pQhivLzbFShZVm75FkvsyQez9HuH.IPkT.ENl.TeM HPaagfBHPqCnRvd_EJuwFfR79H4AI4oEiPd5ownd5xu9TTloDYHGsbPqVumR .87e9db5BZwkk8axfPGfP3P57r7hZjqMWZIaQBR9zJrZ45ABfOOQU9n4pcG8 gIyqN785OmO.KHMrtEzSexkopcHn1VS2g4d3rLbhFvL6xIXPed75_ySQQ0Y3 vU1t5lcrv1TtDb5V0q13V35x6fG4QiUOCtfb1V_ks3_vdbxR.Qe0Jm8y03yt m.XHbq4I6bx9PzWITeSGrgd5I5A8dUdtAt9NRRmP52SzWTC0_.vg8eRcvESz iqYHCdd.857mQgt2glplt6RFamqbch638vC1qYTsQtltXwf7mPHeoGtciLEo 4Kbdna.37IP6NKtAHlEMTw62EY.TpaSL9dYxVzBWP0IAk5vW3D8eJvqB3GuK vms6BCzkGmX94zvGyN2kQETMLkGcE_pXV0AKKLHx_LeplMt_T3RPlWtyLqTF stHBD Received: from [173.48.171.26] by web161003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:59:10 PDT SSwgdG9vLCB3b3VsZCBoZWxwIHdpdGggZmFjdCBjaGVja2luZyB0aGUgaW5mbyBvbiBXaWtpLiBJIGRvbid0IHJlbWVtYmVyIHRoZSBlbnRyeSBoYXZpbmcgbWFueSBibGF0YW50IHByb2JsZW1zLCBidXQgSSB3b3VsZCBqb2luIHRoZSBUaWdlciBnYW5nIHRvIHB1dCBmb3JjZSBiZWhpbmQgbWFraW5nIHdoYXQgY29ycmVjdGlvbnMgbmVlZCB0byBiZSBtYWRlLiBOb3QgdG8gc2luZ2xlIG91dCB3cml0ZXIgRnJhbmsgTWFya3VzLCBidXQgd2l0aCB0aGUgcmVsYXRpdmVseSBuZXcgV2lraSBxdWFsaWZpY2F0aW8BMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 10:59:10 -0700 (PDT) From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tigers and Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I, too, would help with fact checking the info on Wiki. I don't remember the entry having many blatant problems, but I would join the Tiger gang to put force behind making what corrections need to be made. Not to single out writer Frank Markus, but with the relatively new Wiki qualifications that whatever you try to correct must be from some sort of periodical, like Motor Trend (Mr. Markus is a technical writer there), I would push Wiki to respect owners and folks who've been studying and collecting Tiger history for years. There are a handful of claims about the building and sale of Tigers which have two sides to them, and I feel, for completeness sake, both sides should be included in any account of our cars. And, yes, it will mean going through some of the Tiger 'bibles', like Taylor, Carroll, Langworth, Robson and maybe others, and I can tell you from personal experience that some toes of the Tiger faithful might get stepped on in the effort to present as complete an account of the Tiger history as we can as a group. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 12:16:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157CB40511 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:16:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A23A403BA for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:10:50 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1379095848; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=To:Cc:Date:Subject:Content-Type:From:Message-Id; b=E58M/Ptf+uvyPlM/apZtpcQ8NW7cUnrJicDE5rK0r1AzK/j99XM30cJrbVRuNgC8y kdarThFRx1gecFH6WmBEiZSpu+b2JAm9iDdnPd5h0tfTRhooXVBrGm4xbBV7o3dMgW /jBD71DgEQ137Aiw9KOj7uuY/OvkE3v0R4r9tqGM= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (mailpop13.vgs.untd.com [10.181.45.33]) by smtpout03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABKDGXKGAKQTYQS for (sender ); Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:10:46 -0700 (PDT) To: jay.laifman@gmail.com Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:10:50 -0800 From: Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jay, To start, if you believe Wiki, how about the Tiger has the same trans as a Mustang. (?) And then, you look for your oil filter on the right side of the car behind the Generator, (?) And so it goes... For entertainment, go to the wiki Tiger page: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sunbeam_Tiger&action=history And check out "View history" Note the friendly comments at 05:03, 13 September 2013? Eric Corbett And then, if you dare, undo the very cordial Eric's best effort. NOTE!, Wiki will post your IP address if you are not logged in and you make a change. ...that is the dare part... So if you want to be part of the WAR, log into Wiki. BTW, I am currently on a 24 hour BAN from Wiki for "edit waring" ...and I failed an appeal.... ...I am weak on "massive rules" 101...AKA Wiki... ...But I'll figure it out at some point... There is a way to do a quick compare of the different versions, but in my current BANNED mode, I can't do it and then tell you how. You can see my version by clicking: 04:42, 13 September 2013? Spmdr on the Wiki S Tiger History page DW AKA Wiki's pain in the ass... On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:34:08 -0700 Jay Laifman writes: Hi Dan, I'm behind you 100%. But, hey, if you are going to rant like that, the least you owe us is to tell us the things you're correcting!!!! Jay On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:08 AM, wrote: After doing the recent Tigers United Big Bear Tiger Quiz, I found Wikipedia had some glaring misinformation on Tigers. ____________________________________________________________ One Weird Trick Could add $1,000s to Your Social Security Checks! See if you Qualify… http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5233552679c3255261480st03vuc _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 12:19:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9C514055F for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:19:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net (txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net [208.180.40.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6658E4054D for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:19:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Roscrea ([74.196.108.150]) by txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net (InterMail vM.8.04.01.08 201-2343-100-153-20121108) with ESMTP id <20130913181921.UPSG3871.txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net@Roscrea>; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:19:21 -0500 From: "Jerry Mo Christopherson" To: , "'David or Gary Franchi'" , References: <30C1FF61A1CC4EAD8E0AC92C1391A821@ronpc1> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:19:22 -0500 Thread-Index: AQIXqTY4qn9s+Q1X2FPW1f1pEubYKpkyCMIw Content-Language: en-us cv=7JkV/xhoU6S0QUT/W/eJhsqhd+8PjM0NgvTqhu2FCOg= c=1 sm=0 a=ppJAq4iWmAEA:10 a=xzW3HwPJiLYA:10 a=VPHkNMUpP2kA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=UnzTgHv9AAAA:8 a=8LaAqv5HAAAA:8 a=rI5qyFDR-AfzrK3EwOAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=a0o1xVR2z_QA:10 a=gPGHqaX6uacA:10 a=_GX9R0ozYpKQ_LdS:21 a=0VyjdSpwLXAUxB_I:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fake Tiger or VIN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Ya! Clearly the wrong type of hose! Jerry Christopherson 9473187 -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fraser Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 12:36 PM To: 'David or Gary Franchi'; tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fake Tiger or VIN A very nice looking car. A very interesting alternator mount; someone got creative there and is that reinforced clear water hose for the brake booster that looks like its been sucked flat! Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David or Gary Franchi Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:46 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Fake Tiger or VIN This auction was cancelled, Check out the home made VIN. David ? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Sunbeam-Tiger-2-Door-Convertible- 1965-Sunbeam-Tiger-/261279626175?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cd57ab3bf#v4-42 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jcmc2006@suddenlink.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 12:19:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E2AF40560 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:19:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f175.google.com (mail-ie0-f175.google.com [209.85.223.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA83940407 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:19:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f175.google.com with SMTP id e14so3158002iej.6 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:19:40 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uBVebcz9YzQu8UK1o31pvfAMLaTzNXflHc4aBo8wnrI=; b=HgUwf4klHXR9MyYoI1eYycYNzmjPAthvkGwGtrCww7gEtmxjZAkKutvTUAPQK8tfqo hOz3a0jQwZEyVjNJlqzuSvf08b2E3Kchu/yLIdb1mHQfjlp1VHid36JdzkQrYXtJPHtM P2tR38llrIzt2R/PWUKOGmnH/YqjeFfKSksW8= d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uBVebcz9YzQu8UK1o31pvfAMLaTzNXflHc4aBo8wnrI=; b=TlQI+ZpMnX/28Dl4Zw7fqljWtWGBHPRH1Rfrg5qEEHVuAh3zinFoXjJDV9Q2T29hc3 Ssu6BcwXGA8HOmCoOq/WZLsM9NN8SUp29lukxUsYxyQkM1zOJpU5KGjxbrsq0ZSSlyAy q0TfKnZA5TD7TEeKSIQR0hjTl8Fz2aMF0wInHJDd5tWBRAiZ3oOBJBUWq1xi2g0+yaVA qgsjhcrj/XuZQ+LWL4Za8lbaAxgRZHcQq5fPAhmuLdJFISGG+9KQ0rzjF8U9DtyflHSX /ktFu9YzbObdCrq4EluCrUzfIAeCTvT+FtfVIEMbxaHB5FWfkEK3yd9Kpy+Di9qBUOph npEA== Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DavePC (DRMONS0540W-156034170254.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.ns.bellaliant.net. [156.34.170.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id k6sm1027310igx.8.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:19:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dave Munroe" To: "snakebit289" , References: <1379093719.41352.YahooMailNeo@web161001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:19:37 -0300 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers - fake ID's Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net There are many of us out there with TAC'd cars and no VIN or JAL plate. I am one of them. Seeing this cobbled together VIN plate has convinced me not to do the same. I think its better to show a valid TAC decal and a certificate than an obviously counterfeited set of plates. The opportunities to lose these original plates are so myriad that a seller of a legitimate Tiger should have no fear of proving provenance through the TAC program. On my scuttle I have a VIN plate with the info printed on a clear sticker; no possibility of anyone thinking I was trying to fool a buyer. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "snakebit289" To: Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:35 PM Subject: [Tigers] Tigers - fake ID's > As I posted to the Franchi bros, in the end it doesn't matter about the > tags, > if someone we knew was interested in this car, we would suggest sending a > CAT > member who could tell ( I think the car is in Long Beach?) and check it > out. > Rande > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/dave@munroe.ca _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 12:50:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E2440559 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:50:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f169.google.com (mail-ve0-f169.google.com [209.85.128.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CB440424 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:40:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f169.google.com with SMTP id db12so1355643veb.0 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:40:55 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=nqw7flUUaS7rW+nhu32HWgJwCIHJ2R478aM0udq3Kt0=; b=KpTH4SJG5LRk/Asrm5QKuTK5YuvXGrKaTJbLCwwin6P/wUlSEsteHoksDjnyCM+/49 uW9uuTIaP0XtR7ryteV5ST3aTE1ofQciMlTAwE4P+WHbK+X0BBTNKoXrhVdKCGhSACQ7 kWEbSz9Lai5+CNYhKzpWVsYlltWFDYkLiuvSHZ4AsUWarIrWdmd0iqvucu6htq9Ooj7f xX8eV1q7iAJo5kmIOUStvPyKG21g5XgpwieQw7G9w9wWe4ootk4fGnv4ziHzaJyLuawV hjvFVByURNmNBdhzCs6Sk/5HAmIz8XTJQ3qup0tBfJBHvgyLU/zIRa3OZVid/7cHMFig 59EA== am8mr1988711vdc.33.1379097655362; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.77.10 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:40:55 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:40:55 -0700 From: Jay Laifman To: spmdr@juno.com Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks! You should check out what they show on Wikipedia about the kids' swimming game called Marco Polo. It's an all out war between contributors on who is right and who is wrong - including some guy who claims to have invented it in Ohio in the 50s (or something like that) - making everyone else wrong. I came across it the other day when we were talking about the "real" Marco Polo because my son was learning about it in class. On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:10 PM, wrote: > ** > Jay, > > To start, if you believe Wiki, how about the Tiger has the same trans as a > Mustang. (?) > > And then, you look for your oil filter on the right side of the car behind > the Generator, (?) > > And so it goes... > > For entertainment, go to the wiki Tiger page: > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sunbeam_Tiger&action=history > > And check out "View history" > > Note the friendly comments at 05:03, 13 September 2013 > Eric Corbett > > And then, if you dare, undo the very cordial Eric's best effort. > > NOTE!, Wiki will post your IP address if you are not logged in and you > make a change. > > ...that is the dare part... > > So if you want to be part of the WAR, log into Wiki. > > BTW, I am currently on a 24 hour BAN from Wiki for "edit waring" > > ...and I failed an appeal.... > > ...I am weak on "massive rules" 101...AKA Wiki... > > ...But I'll figure it out at some point... > > There is a way to do a quick compare of the different versions, but in my > current BANNED mode, I can't do it and then tell you how. > > You can see my version by clicking: 04:42, 13 September 2013 > Spmdr on > the Wiki S Tiger History page > > DW AKA Wiki's pain in the ass... > > > On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:34:08 -0700 Jay Laifman > writes: > > Hi Dan, > > I'm behind you 100%. But, hey, if you are going to rant like that, the > least you owe us is to tell us the things you're correcting!!!! > > Jay > > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:08 AM, wrote: > >> After doing the recent Tigers United Big Bear Tiger Quiz, >> >> I found Wikipedia had some glaring misinformation on Tigers. >> >> >> > > > ____________________________________________________________ > *One Weird Trick* > Could add $1,000s to Your Social Security Checks! See if you Qualify… > > newsmax.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 14:41:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416D142A51 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:41:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f179.google.com (unknown [209.85.223.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D4CC40E4E for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:57:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f179.google.com with SMTP id e14so3528053iej.38 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:57:19 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FWByxmcgeEV3daSV4lnTfNQEOBDMHCnIEbT3HJKgcjw=; b=tVC6zQ2xe4cH/BrkqHF+znCRkq1+OzXjse7NPb7GvYUyxcaSUTjFib1x7dQ7D23V4L qBS+zNOYzyk+Z0LYI5hHHFL0GpOr2ZRTpMUJjqJUrT34Ql5VXUkx28lbZ8G3mNbX90Rf gt2KZKY7o2zPtdSBqU3kz01zDYYvrRpnWpHNWv3sR4MzaxXq1c3ZZKc4clA0naXQnM5o VX86V0oroPXL+4iOk1BJzUhHD5t1M2eFTMzB8Z6Nuu/ZclMuQfndWFaE9fZRVbJCfDxD yMu9WnIWd/4WuWq1OLH86o+V19T2gQP1UMWtZzHY5ChdNfokkMZT5pOkRLHHNQx7VgJz 1BtQ== Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:52:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.12] (adsl-184-38-171-65.msy.bellsouth.net. [184.38.171.65]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id x6sm1339869igb.3.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:52:12 -0500 From: "A. C." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: David or Gary Franchi , tigers@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fake Tiger or VIN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Folks, I wrote the poster through EBAY, pointing out the problems with the ID elements. He replied saying they were lost when the car was being restored, but did not explain why the VIN lacked the final "E" or why it was used as the JAL. I assumed from that that there was little paperwork. I understand that ID plates can be lost/destroyed in many ways. However, I don't think a TAC certificate is a suitable, complete substitute. A TAC certificate only certifies that the vehicle is a Tiger, but not which Tiger it is. There must be additional documentation showing which Tiger was TACed. I am not casting aspersions on the honesty or pedigree on any person or Tiger, but we are all aware that some Tigers have been stolen and not recovered over the years. As we see by another post, giving specific instructions that the ID elements were not to be removed, even in writing, is not always enough when having a car restored. Personally, I would have the shop owner acknowledge the instructions in writing, perhaps with an agreed penalty. I would also take a picture of the VIN and JAL tags on the car, preferably including that day's newspaper front page, the written acknowledgement from the shop owner and something to prove I was the one taking the picture. Perhaps a mirror showing my reflection or the title showing my name? Just my thoughts, worth at least the price paid. And, again, I mean no insult to any owner or Tiger. A. C. Tynes New Orleans On 9/13/2013 9:46 AM, David or Gary Franchi wrote: > This auction was cancelled, Check out the home made VIN. > > David > ? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Other-Makes-Sunbeam-Tiger-2-Door-Convertible-1965-Sunbeam-Tiger-/261279626175?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cd57ab3bf#v4-42 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/v8tracker@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 18:58:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 405E942851 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 18:58:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83D8B40560 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:43:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 20:43:14 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.128] by nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 20:40:12 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.172] by tm16.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 20:40:12 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.203] by tm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 20:40:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1012.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Sep 2013 20:40:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 41018 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Sep 2013 20:40:12 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379104812; bh=GB5pPhOFIdK3DMi6C+CqHEnog7RXkPHiR3L8pyyVkeo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1ToMO/L6scHMnXRq+pPpXdSBooa9e0+yI0cKzcnhmKjyqWqM3A7DncPobAvLWsfyVGUunoMYL2SJG6A4sm+3Ow71hXEWd7PQ3VASRLltI2Pn4bV4VDow9QfBsgUBurRq7d/LS5L1oMdp/B8jETfIt/NprMUkib/IQ1CQN6onNKU= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dQaVWVF20cHq9pAOPvYdjhvJiXZdnB65vW2LIPzNf9T1dGG3oKe3PwCShJNO3JGWQwTXfbluo5MptzMFQa67H+hQVDCTAYCGlL8sDVWpegswkTZvm1PWB9OL2rNO7/JOyUfNZJAow62FFZ9EoJYeJ3dIdObtZpcj+30SrrKT0Kw=; 9gFN4cGWiMmBj70ocPqsyhTrVv573Qa2WEm7u.MJvYRUmwTQ0G4yw8S9cPFa rqRwB8LUU2fv_7ytcwy7BgMAM0YxjbcE1YPkmADhspy6OxffgKuX8DYlsnk. 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Can anyone refresh me whether there was agreement on the correct answer and what it was? Thanks Terry Packer 9470018 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 19:03:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8994292D for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 19:03:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from db9outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (mail-db9lp0253.outbound.messaging.microsoft.com [213.199.154.253]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8CE40572 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:46:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail208-db9-R.bigfish.com (10.174.16.243) by DB9EHSOBE025.bigfish.com (10.174.14.88) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.22; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 20:30:58 +0000 Received: from mail208-db9 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail208-db9-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77EB5440129; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 20:30:58 +0000 (UTC) H:edgetransport.garmin.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: pass (mail208-db9: domain of dynastream.com designates 204.77.163.11 as permitted sender) client-ip=204.77.163.11; envelope-from=Theo.Smit@dynastream.com; helo=edgetransport.garmin.com ;t.garmin.com ; Received: from mail208-db9 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail208-db9 (MessageSwitch) id 1379104255769835_4988; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 20:30:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DB9EHSMHS013.bigfish.com (unknown [10.174.16.254]) by mail208-db9.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B84074A004F; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 20:30:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edgetransport.garmin.com (204.77.163.11) by DB9EHSMHS013.bigfish.com (10.174.14.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.227.3; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 20:30:55 +0000 Received: from OLAWPA-EXHT05.ad.garmin.com (10.5.143.145) by edgetransport.garmin.com (192.168.18.224) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.347.0; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:31:06 -0500 Received: from OLAWPA-EXMB06.ad.garmin.com ([169.254.5.186]) by OLAWPA-EXHT05.ad.garmin.com ([10.5.143.145]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:30:24 -0500 From: "Smit, Theo" To: Jay Laifman , "spmdr@juno.com" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Wiki Thread-Index: AQHOsLDHqjtq4rltbUus1t+VE3fLeJnEHYCw Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 20:30:24 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.5.143.129] Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I put my two cents' in on the 'talk' page... we'll see what happens ;) Theo > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers- > bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Laifman > Sent: September 13, 2013 12:41 PM > To: spmdr@juno.com > Cc: Tiger's Den > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki > > Thanks! > > You should check out what they show on Wikipedia about the kids' > swimming game called Marco Polo. It's an all out war between > contributors on who is right and who is wrong - including some guy who > claims to have invented it in Ohio in the 50s (or something like that) > - making everyone else wrong. > > I came across it the other day when we were talking about the "real" > Marco Polo because my son was learning about it in class. > > > > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 12:10 PM, wrote: > > > ** > > Jay, > > > > To start, if you believe Wiki, how about the Tiger has the same trans > > as a Mustang. (?) > > > > And then, you look for your oil filter on the right side of the car > > behind the Generator, (?) > > > > And so it goes... > > > > For entertainment, go to the wiki Tiger page: > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sunbeam_Tiger&action=history > > > > And check out "View history" > > > > Note the friendly comments at 05:03, 13 September > > > 2013 > 717113> Eric Corbett > > > > And then, if you dare, undo the very cordial Eric's best effort. > > > > NOTE!, Wiki will post your IP address if you are not logged in and > you > > make a change. > > > > ...that is the dare part... > > > > So if you want to be part of the WAR, log into Wiki. > > > > BTW, I am currently on a 24 hour BAN from Wiki for "edit waring" > > > > ...and I failed an appeal.... > > > > ...I am weak on "massive rules" 101...AKA Wiki... > > > > ...But I'll figure it out at some point... > > > > There is a way to do a quick compare of the different versions, but > in > > my current BANNED mode, I can't do it and then tell you how. > > > > You can see my version by clicking: 04:42, 13 September > > > 2013 > 715487> > > > Spmdr > &redlink=1> on the Wiki S Tiger History page > > > > DW AKA Wiki's pain in the ass... > > > > > > On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:34:08 -0700 Jay Laifman > > > writes: > > > > Hi Dan, > > > > I'm behind you 100%. But, hey, if you are going to rant like that, > > the least you owe us is to tell us the things you're correcting!!!! > > > > Jay > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:08 AM, wrote: > > > >> After doing the recent Tigers United Big Bear Tiger Quiz, > >> > >> I found Wikipedia had some glaring misinformation on Tigers. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ > > *One Weird Trick* > > Could add $1,000s to Your Social Security Checks! See if you > > Qualify… > > > > > > > > newsmax.com > 2b75st02vuc> > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/theo.smit@dynastream.com > > ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete the message. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this communication (including attachments) by someone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Thank you. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 19:03:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A188F429E0 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 19:03:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f44.google.com (mail-vb0-f44.google.com [209.85.212.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B9440E4E for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:47:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id e13so1364643vbg.3 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:47:05 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=xayOpP/F8IVTUW6yHUy2KCimevMQueOUAU8bnm01wbU=; b=rHEuQ9ZAj6HusJLNjWtCdsBxgm4d4ZftIZkXI8Pn054Ya1Sbl75sxFwLsC3+ThP2Je tpU6YuiF8MPddaa++2FmodPCapn7t2fQicID/kM5D7jPHbpjJ+YHD3HZQLhvP7LxGJn+ uXlqNR/5caRpFm4Gi4YB5OVHWzlxNO4F9yw8kDOB867a8M4kVjcGFZkrdqYTGpwlVjfE ZMnSbJTA0fHaxEXdsuP2MN+2db13FrpgtU2+lmbT0uoBeWz9+n+EsbX3pdrfCiAQNRCq ETOeXBBsiHSfMnQaQnXEgJaAyX7/uTFZHuVES9QtgJ/4lns6s/3j+9ZcX3Vs/1kaaBcY EkDw== rp9mr2517489vcb.29.1379105225183; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.104.84 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:47:05 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:47:05 -0400 From: Owain Lloyd To: "spmdr@juno.com" Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Eric Corbett needs a dose of corporal punishment. What a dick. Anyway I suggest we all tell him as much on his talk page. Most of his revisions are terrible. I do prefer the dynamo to generator though (it is a British car after all). On Friday, September 13, 2013, wrote: > Jay, > > To start, if you believe Wiki, how about the Tiger has the same trans as > a Mustang. (?) > > And then, you look for your oil filter on the right side of the car > behind the Generator, (?) > > And so it goes... > > For entertainment, go to the wiki Tiger page: > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sunbeam_Tiger&action=history > > And check out "View history" > > Note the friendly comments at 05:03, 13 September 2013? Eric Corbett > > And then, if you dare, undo the very cordial Eric's best effort. > > NOTE!, Wiki will post your IP address if you are not logged in and you > make a change. > > ...that is the dare part... > > So if you want to be part of the WAR, log into Wiki. > > BTW, I am currently on a 24 hour BAN from Wiki for "edit waring" > > ...and I failed an appeal.... > > ...I am weak on "massive rules" 101...AKA Wiki... > > ...But I'll figure it out at some point... > > There is a way to do a quick compare of the different versions, but in my > current BANNED mode, I can't do it and then tell you how. > > You can see my version by clicking: 04:42, 13 September 2013? Spmdr on > the Wiki S Tiger History page > > DW AKA Wiki's pain in the ass... > > > On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:34:08 -0700 Jay Laifman > > > writes: > Hi Dan, > > I'm behind you 100%. But, hey, if you are going to rant like that, the > least you owe us is to tell us the things you're correcting!!!! > > Jay > > > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:08 AM, > wrote: > > After doing the recent Tigers United Big Bear Tiger Quiz, > > I found Wikipedia had some glaring misinformation on Tigers. > ____________________________________________________________ > One Weird Trick > Could add $1,000s to Your Social Security Checks! See if you Qualify… > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5233552679c3255261480st03vuc > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 21:30:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287AD427D3 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 21:30:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.109]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0607B40046 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 18:49:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.102] ([216.222.140.182]) by p3plsmtpa11-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id QopN1m00B3wK5wg01opNWY; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 17:49:23 -0700 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 20:49:17 -0400 From: Chris Thompson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: owain.lloyd@gmail.com References: <68D5DD76912C422B826DD4DE99C15730@HPamdX2> <62D302B9F05F4D30BA7EAC7B5B14DD3B@optiplex3301> Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, thanks, I just preordered one, too... On 9/13/2013 1:46 PM, Owain Lloyd wrote: > Thanks. I just preordered on amazon. They say nov 18th release date. > > On Friday, September 13, 2013, Thomas Witt wrote: > >> John Morton has a new book about to be released. It contains quite a bit >>>>> of material on the building of the Shelby prototype and early Tiger >>>>> racing.<<< _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 13 21:31:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A8C42A5F for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 21:31:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f47.google.com (mail-oa0-f47.google.com [209.85.219.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A1642875 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 19:08:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id g12so1872659oah.34 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 18:08:16 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0o1xp7LBvlSxJewdLVR6l+J4BPksk7OZnHOq8XaJCWg=; b=J/x0PwRwdM1nNmS+chZvGN/upoOg5PX3JEtNEavUVakKFLjpRFDSkeEA4mx9MDbahI q5QY19WDn42kjyDPB/ylji/Qn/SJsjNQeKK273vy3kMF4P5iSosHNtZHDy+0R7O5Ls6/ Z8QFuVdIDE6cLEb2HsGxbq9Zk5XtIkDP7tkBWAOrqLde6sIGs30XTtqoX2yQEm3UCZLT 95cLrx1wnGFPDGJBkDfg7dK07ffSfs3FeWW5A8TKL/zDLT3c882ASlyBYUHOo0Xx2Hh7 zQWrW5KrJLFEG1npkU5a84uKXmmrsHnUKYTK164UOaKe/YOyC6hu2bRlHw5MAFlhdkje 0ZXA== p3mr14839123obm.29.1379120896291; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 18:08:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.34.196 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 18:08:16 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 11:08:16 +1000 From: michael king To: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: [Tigers] GOODWOOD REVIVAL Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The Goodwood revival is on in the UK, they are telecasting it live on Youtube. I was watching it last night (well early hours Sunday morning here) and it's just magic. If you do a search for "goodwood live" on youtube at the same time as the event is on you can stream it. The Le Mans Tiger finished 6th in 1st practice for the RAC TT.. and of note its the fastest car in a straight line.. very good... but I guess handling isnt quite up to that of the e-types cobras and Ferrari'.. but that said.. its probably the heaviest car out there so that motor has some poke! The rest of the touring car, single seater and GT40 runs were amazing. For all the aero enthusiaststhey have an amazing air show, spitfires, mustangs, lightnings and various period planes. They will be doing the videocast each day.. Also, it's worth setting the slider back about 1 min from the live feed to that its not choppy. The action starts at 9am UK local time.. so go online between then and finishing at 5pm local time. also try the goodwood site.. they show the video.. and also have highlights from the coverage yesterday: http://www.goodwood.co.uk/revival/revival-live/revival-live.aspx the schedule: http://www.goodwood.co.uk/revival/event-itinerary/event-itinerary.aspx the results from FRIDAY practice for the TT: http://www.tsl-timing.com/barc/2013/133721trt.pdf -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 14 01:25:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A463242AB6 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 01:25:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f173.google.com (mail-ob0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1BA44040E for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 21:39:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id vb8so1827209obc.18 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 20:39:25 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=v2Qr4iiibKti2J3+wSsuQ6+yAjoftSovfqH37NbiUi8=; b=cxI0rbKov++9socMAvGvtsGaaACua7txWiwgwEnDt36N+RnwOI5unXNSu9a20pSC18 oVOqtWt+K+Z8Wip9AQ3gPpWGs20irnrk58BSXz4CUkUDC8QHea68Ie4M/QV4kxBAZbyG waNADhqOTBQ7LtP+4oXgBNg+9W1FU/kFXLTn8KRmtlKDnFzG7qHwzZJZ6C1SVPPeAu4E b65aSe5mYahPcl7QmgaBsqYX46+406i2XV3jNnl8lhok/KlLzVJyp76Eu7TjW0RilNZf Xwe7nTGldNZdij9nf5sx+xATRkrEqA6swyjs3KDM86rdS99WsEE/PnkVa5SHpP7m/+CL zDJw== s9mr15452664obd.15.1379129965448; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 20:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.34.196 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 20:39:25 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 13:39:25 +1000 From: michael king To: Dan Walters Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I just read the Tiger wiki entry.. HOLLY CRAP IS IT BAD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunbeam_Tiger In the first intro section there are some absolute howlers: *Series II, of which only 633 were built in the final year of Tiger production, was fitted with the larger Ford 289 cu in (4.7 L) engine !! *"series I and II" Tigers as opposed to mark *The Tiger is derivative of the '53 mark alpines!! got worse as I read on.. we should really try ad sort this out.. i'm almost surmised it doesn't have that lovely urban myth that the cars were modified with sledge hammer. How can we coordinate to set this right? -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 14 01:37:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5434942BCB for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 01:37:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f172.google.com (mail-ob0-f172.google.com [209.85.214.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1ED640067; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 23:14:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id gq1so1874324obb.31 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 22:14:47 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to:references :in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date :content-type:mime-version; bh=510zrrlhYSeXt3NeqiarTvbvXMKokkjW0ZXqKYy53EA=; b=Mcz+qK0JLSileova5CXxibcszBtZD6LE2bFFlrW356nfjimIez3+Bxk0a4gTkihtt6 Bv59FYsiEHFV5pWKY8yyhHynt7vMwVqQr406DhK+PZrvdeiZXUiuYYN9iaIMavT5IFB5 3fUvmg9Ptfs15mFjbdoVJJ3s1p6QXw2ghHi6KpM5l+NxMTG0Y3CxrRk7wx768jwy/oO4 1eJwLhu3NnfA2idczArn3TiS5V2KC3+qu1dS0ElOc0xkvH49U3M3/Qhuwlo5Or2lKeL+ pQguzclPOsmzsrqXIvDWT25FKiX02NguGtENoAQFqYwR1WqFzf919Owarl/isaqkqBZl xtgQ== gq4mr15743598obb.4.1379135687533; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 22:14:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.187 (bda-74-82-80-176.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d3sm20547517oek.5.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 13 Sep 2013 22:14:46 -0700 (PDT) References: Sensitivity: Normal To: "michael king" ,tigers-bounces@autox.team.net,"Tiger Talk List Tiger" From: jay.laifman@gmail.com Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 05:14:44 +0000 Subject: Re: [Tigers] GOODWOOD REVIVAL Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks. FWIW my son just searched and is only getting old stuff. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: michael king To: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: [Tigers] GOODWOOD REVIVAL The Goodwood revival is on in the UK, they are telecasting it live on Youtube. I was watching it last night (well early hours Sunday morning here) and it's just magic. If you do a search for "goodwood live" on youtube at the same time as the event is on you can stream it. The Le Mans Tiger finished 6th in 1st practice for the RAC TT.. and of note its the fastest car in a straight line.. very good... but I guess handling isnt quite up to that of the e-types cobras and Ferrari'.. but that said.. its probably the heaviest car out there so that motor has some poke! The rest of the touring car, single seater and GT40 runs were amazing. For all the aero enthusiaststhey have an amazing air show, spitfires, mustangs, lightnings and various period planes. They will be doing the videocast each day.. Also, it's worth setting the slider back about 1 min from the live feed to that its not choppy. The action starts at 9am UK local time.. so go online between then and finishing at 5pm local time. also try the goodwood site.. they show the video.. and also have highlights from the coverage yesterday: http://www.goodwood.co.uk/revival/revival-live/revival-live.aspx the schedule: http://www.goodwood.co.uk/revival/event-itinerary/event-itinerary.aspx the results from FRIDAY practice for the TT: http://www.tsl-timing.com/barc/2013/133721trt.pdf -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 14 03:40:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A348428A7 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 03:40:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78E394051B for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 00:05:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from HPamdX2 ([unknown] [173.58.229.205]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MT3001ERQ9C3G73@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 01:05:37 -0500 (CDT) From: "Buck Trippel" To: , References: Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 23:05:23 -0700 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I read through the Tiger Wiki tonight and counted about 4 dozen factual errors. Most of these happened to be footnoted as sourced out of Robson's book. Buck Trippel -----Original Message----- From: Owain Lloyd Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 1:47 PM To: spmdr@juno.com Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Eric Corbett needs a dose of corporal punishment. What a dick. Anyway I suggest we all tell him as much on his talk page. Most of his revisions are terrible. I do prefer the dynamo to generator though (it is a British car after all). On Friday, September 13, 2013, wrote: > Jay, > > To start, if you believe Wiki, how about the Tiger has the same trans as > a Mustang. (?) > > And then, you look for your oil filter on the right side of the car > behind the Generator, (?) > > And so it goes... > > For entertainment, go to the wiki Tiger page: > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sunbeam_Tiger&action=history > > And check out "View history" > > Note the friendly comments at 05:03, 13 September 2013? Eric Corbett > > And then, if you dare, undo the very cordial Eric's best effort. > > NOTE!, Wiki will post your IP address if you are not logged in and you > make a change. > > ...that is the dare part... > > So if you want to be part of the WAR, log into Wiki. > > BTW, I am currently on a 24 hour BAN from Wiki for "edit waring" > > ...and I failed an appeal.... > > ...I am weak on "massive rules" 101...AKA Wiki... > > ...But I'll figure it out at some point... > > There is a way to do a quick compare of the different versions, but in my > current BANNED mode, I can't do it and then tell you how. > > You can see my version by clicking: 04:42, 13 September 2013? Spmdr on > the Wiki S Tiger History page > > DW AKA Wiki's pain in the ass... > > > On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:34:08 -0700 Jay Laifman > > > > writes: > Hi Dan, > > I'm behind you 100%. But, hey, if you are going to rant like that, the > least you owe us is to tell us the things you're correcting!!!! > > Jay > > > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:08 AM, > wrote: > > After doing the recent Tigers United Big Bear Tiger Quiz, > > I found Wikipedia had some glaring misinformation on Tigers. > ____________________________________________________________ > One Weird Trick > Could add $1,000s to Your Social Security Checks! See if you Qualify… > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5233552679c3255261480st03vuc > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/bucktrippel@verizon.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 14 03:46:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8B7342A38 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 03:46:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f180.google.com (mail-ob0-f180.google.com [209.85.214.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D1640E97; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 00:22:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f180.google.com with SMTP id wm4so1867239obc.25 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 23:22:48 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XlWDpZtx/fqT4IVyJIJ1C1wbwUhmH9EL7IURhaQ6sL8=; b=VuewrXOb4tMuLdFWUfYOPyrVRrQsFy9GkFRfVsRuRoRVgTnK6O/O+Ffy+M+qAx6MkQ CaDivqyIZtb6vkMZmqeKiv0JbrSWQEOTFo51BJmWSiWaKIVUG+n24/PsY4RvaAW1m3RW 7rrGBUXnvvJHGSIBP3YFThoEzjtmq6P6xYTC2aRpYdFiKHS8nIH+FN0qXjUhTC5UBIM4 8W/rqXvxLb8D2XXttyEJuOA+e3Hkpan7+bA/hcXuKXUZaFEKoP/Z23gMw25fHOy2rQ1e OVYppKokme8rYJulJgim/Y2Sc4VfPYcXepleIYnMxwVXWwMZKUdEkAjDWtC0i40q9omt UTFA== zd8mr15546744obb.25.1379139768403; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 23:22:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.34.196 with HTTP; Fri, 13 Sep 2013 23:22:48 -0700 (PDT) References: <1041842482-1379135685-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1680506551-@b11.c3.bise6.blackberry> Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 16:22:48 +1000 From: michael king To: Jay Laifman Cc: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net, Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] GOODWOOD REVIVAL Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Guys you have to log in as the coverage goes to air.. so anytime between 9am and 5pm London local time.. if not you will get a broken link. On 14 September 2013 15:14, wrote: > Thanks. FWIW my son just searched and is only getting old stuff. > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: michael king > Sender: tigers-bounces@autox.team.netDate: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 11:08:16 > To: Tiger Talk List Tiger > Subject: [Tigers] GOODWOOD REVIVAL > > The Goodwood revival is on in the UK, they are telecasting it live on > Youtube. I was watching it last night (well early hours Sunday morning > here) and it's just magic. > > If you do a search for "goodwood live" on youtube at the same time as the > event is on you can stream it. > > The Le Mans Tiger finished 6th in 1st practice for the RAC TT.. and of note > its the fastest car in a straight line.. very good... but I guess handling > isnt quite up to that of the e-types cobras and Ferrari'.. but that said.. > its probably the heaviest car out there so that motor has some poke! > > The rest of the touring car, single seater and GT40 runs were amazing. For > all the aero enthusiaststhey have an amazing air show, spitfires, mustangs, > lightnings and various period planes. > > They will be doing the videocast each day.. > > Also, it's worth setting the slider back about 1 min from the live feed to > that its not choppy. The action starts at 9am UK local time.. so go online > between then and finishing at 5pm local time. > > also try the goodwood site.. they show the video.. and also have highlights > from the coverage yesterday: > > http://www.goodwood.co.uk/revival/revival-live/revival-live.aspx > > the schedule: > > http://www.goodwood.co.uk/revival/event-itinerary/event-itinerary.aspx > > > the results from FRIDAY practice for the TT: > > http://www.tsl-timing.com/barc/2013/133721trt.pdf > > -- > Regards > > Michael King > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 14 09:49:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B0D24270F for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 09:49:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f173.google.com (mail-ob0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB984040E for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 06:01:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id vb8so2010972obc.4 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 05:01:52 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=iE7HqlmKj+M/tsLi6TlyQLSwifmA/BsSQZ5FOojz/VQ=; b=kdMsrSsybciwz+lVwqtFUE5jyf5BM0VmsXpcUrvX9j//VA9A8M3p0sc5GVglxSaxMv hnOZwJ3LBInyi0kVxUKXKQlSCy+hpWYiyS6XEFVLb37z+ZtXOsuoQa3I+zTBVwf3ZGgB Jtf0yMbIJKhZFxyiyh/WnWt3mTOKZOJbX0gCWGcTlFtIV3J9YSqHgZx9/n3LLK+a5TOo Y1JPc/NCA4pCLZrqIkJ6xE3mOrsjlnKPotidFOk4qbNxCJVTnFfHNxRL0Dt/lG3fgvCJ 9yQVUD2a0eS3XC0H+BChb52GoYHZ1n7XKzzobKSeTpWTGMVeMNRji3SKfC2h+RWpna8s wZPA== w3mr16923516oel.10.1379160112241; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 05:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.34.196 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 05:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 22:01:52 +1000 From: michael king To: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: [Tigers] Goodwood revival Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Qualifiying finshed.. LM Tiger in a very strong 6th.. for some pictures and details go to: http://www.catmbr.org/VB_forum/showthread.php?p=15414#post15414 or if you are online now or in the next couple of hours you can go watch the session on youtube.. its worth it to watch the cobras ferraris and the e-types battling it out in amazing drifts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEHqpgPsJd8 -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 14 09:59:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7405B429FF for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 09:59:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7097740511 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 06:59:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta002.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r8ECwOt7000955; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 05:59:36 -0700 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4348622d) id dm0213.520b1585.41c223; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 05:59:35 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.179.44]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 12:59:33 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Terry Packer'" , Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 08:59:29 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6w5sXug8gtQlk6SU2nKpoR0Kok/AAYy7gg engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-14_01:2013-09-13,2013-09-14,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309140062 Subject: Re: [Tigers] License Plate Light Bracket - Revisited Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Terry Mine is body color. I think any other color would look like a sore thumb in there. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Terry Packer Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 4:40 PM To: tigers@Autox.Team.Net Subject: [Tigers] License Plate Light Bracket - Revisited Recently there was a discussion of whether the rear bracket for the license plate lights was originally painted black or body color. Can anyone refresh me whether there was agreement on the correct answer and what it was? Thanks Terry Packer 9470018 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 14 12:03:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2E9428FA for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 12:03:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B973040406 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 08:21:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id R22f1m0060vp7WLA32MfFx; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 14:21:39 +0000 Received: from sz0064.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id R2Mf1m0062yr1eL8R2MfsZ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 14:21:39 +0000 Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 14:21:39 +0000 (UTC) From: Gary Winblad To: michael king s=q20121106; t=1379168499; bh=eGWpOjZccHnyDZ3ySvkIyc7RDcWw27w9w7mZArB++54=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Gtcr2vcTkJOdHpaABi0qqW7iEkFbHk/KznNbHnhyQ5f19wgZ0zUf/fV2Uc5KE36dM Mt3P0j+NX9PrWvAkS1j4Kw2T+orA4jhKac2FXfjFw+I56tRqBoH8iJ7QBUAf/90y/o zcsv8DrMXU6KeFRJ5xRD/iygkyRGU/P/58VmJIjk4HLqMIax7a2nkPZ6kWCfGaMv/T 4wEHU4L7FrtmZzVAYmPSZAHljd5yiN8l9sUD5zQ8WurbwRAiTotJRik2rPzRkyyxyy vDhFEQ2IVcTsJIQi0yA1Xy0dBpA2QDdwS39fuib0p1Q1VeP7qXW1oZ7xyzzlTz4KJ4 1oySxZr16Fucw== Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net You didn't read it far enough: "Installing the engine required some unusual manufacturing methods, including using a sledgehammer to bash in part of the already primed and painted bulkhead to allow the engine to be slid into place" Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: michael king To: Dan Walters Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Sent: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 03:39:25 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki I just read the Tiger wiki entry.. HOLLY CRAP IS IT BAD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunbeam_Tiger In the first intro section there are some absolute howlers: *Series II, of which only 633 were built in the final year of Tiger production, was fitted with the larger Ford 289 cu in (4.7 L) engine !! *"series I and II" Tigers as opposed to mark *The Tiger is derivative of the '53 mark alpines!! got worse as I read on.. we should really try ad sort this out.. i'm almost surmised it doesn't have that lovely urban myth that the cars were modified with sledge hammer. How can we coordinate to set this right? -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 14 12:14:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4356D42B8B for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 12:14:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3AF6428B5 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 09:52:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from HPamdX2 ([unknown] [173.58.229.205]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MT4007UYHEW6LV0@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 10:52:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Buck Trippel" To: , Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 08:51:54 -0700 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net For those who want to see the ongoing dialog with Wiki and the volunteers, here are some links: to the Sunbeam Tiger Wiki Article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunbeam_Tiger to the Tiger Wiki "Talk" (newest entry is on the bottom) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sunbeam_Tiger to Eric Corbett's "Talk" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eric_Corbett FYI, in the Wiki "Talks" the newest posts are at the end. Buck Trippel -----Original Message----- From: Owain Lloyd Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 1:47 PM To: spmdr@juno.com Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Eric Corbett needs a dose of corporal punishment. What a dick. Anyway I suggest we all tell him as much on his talk page. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 14 16:29:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 058C8428EE for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 16:29:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80C340334 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 13:58:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from HPamdX2 ([unknown] [173.58.229.205]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MT40042UQ06GDF0@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 13:57:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Buck Trippel" To: "DW" References: <1227326375.2970328.1379168499000.JavaMail.root@sz0064a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 11:57:28 -0700 Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Many thanks to Theo and Dan for their attempts to correct some of the misinformation currently on the Sunbeam Tiger Wiki. However we seem to beating our heads against their wall. The editors of the Wiki page remain convinced that we Tiger owners don't really know about Tigers. The editors think that after they've spent several months researching Tigers that they have it all down and dismiss guys like Dan who has several orders of magnitude more time spent investigating the marque. The editors insist on only allowing information in "their" Wiki that is based on cites to published material regardless of the accuracy of the material. This house of cards is based on the flawed assumption that the information published is accurate. Personally, I don't want to expend a lot of effort dealing with wacko wiki volunteers when we could simply draft and post our own "Wiki" on either the Tigers United or CAT sites. If we want to go this route we could... 1) start with a clean sheet of paper 2) follow the format of the exiting Wiki (this would make it easier for the Wiki editors to see our differences.) 3) follow the format of a Tiger article now posted on the TU site (providing we could get permission from the author, Von Levandowski). see http://tigersunited.com/history/tdev.asp Let me know your thoughts or if you want to help participate in the project. Together, maybe we can rough something out this week. Buck Trippel _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 14 16:30:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7835842908 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 16:30:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1D4E4009B for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 13:58:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from optiplex3301 ([unknown] [71.104.80.155]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MT4008O7ST68X67@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 14:58:19 -0500 (CDT) From: "Thomas Witt" To: References: <44CB75567B4247F9928D5358AC7D4A06@HPamdX2> Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 12:58:18 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Buck - All, Is there a common person (designated person?) working on this that we might send suggestions to? As I look over even the beginning of the Wikipedia site I find information that thought not inaccurate, seems vague. Given the limitations of the AutoX system I'll put my comments in brackets. As an example: "and for two years [what two years?] it was the American Hot Rod Association's national record holder over a quarter-mile drag strip [this reads as if the Tiger was the fastest car - ever - in the quarter mile during the undisclosed time period. There should be a reference to the specific class the car held the record in]. And, yes, Mr. Corbett does NOT sound like the type of chap that would sit down for a spot of tea and muse about the accuracy of Tiger information. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buck Trippel" To: ; Cc: Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki > For those who want to see the ongoing dialog with Wiki and the volunteers, > here are some links: > > to the Sunbeam Tiger Wiki Article > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunbeam_Tiger > > to the Tiger Wiki "Talk" (newest entry is on the bottom) > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sunbeam_Tiger > > to Eric Corbett's "Talk" > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eric_Corbett > > FYI, in the Wiki "Talks" the newest posts are at the end. > > Buck Trippel _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 14 18:20:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B071F4299C for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 18:20:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from ivic0.sogetel.net (pop3.ivic.qc.ca [66.187.114.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B48740424 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 16:13:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ip160.125-126-74.sogetel.net ([74.126.125.160] helo=D7F0WHF1) by ivic0.sogetel.net with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VKy63-0006Ub-2F for tigers@autox.team.net; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 18:13:43 -0400 From: "denis mercier" To: Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 18:13:46 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Air filter Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All. I want change air filter on my Tiger, is someone have a cross reference for Tiger air Filter, i would like to buy one at my local parts supplier. Thanks ! Denis. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 14 19:51:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA54242940 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 19:51:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail3.everyone.net [216.200.145.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B11440423 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 18:03:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004959.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r8F05K2P022863; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 17:05:20 -0700 Received: by dm0224.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4348622d) id dm0224.520b156c.432cba; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 17:03:38 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.179.103]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 00:03:36 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Buck Trippel'" , "'DW'" Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 20:03:32 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6xmchd7b1ZYAF4S76hK/d68OPykAAC8niw engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-14_02:2013-09-13,2013-09-14,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309140189 Cc: 'Tiger Talk List Tiger' Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Buck Walls are no fun to run up against. Go Around them, it's easier and less painful. My vote is to let the Tiger community write the article. We know the subject and we know most of the published errors. Make it open enough so anyone in the Tiger community can contribute information. May need an editor panel to oversee contributions. Start with basic information then expand the information over time. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Buck Trippel Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 2:57 PM To: DW Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Many thanks to Theo and Dan for their attempts to correct some of the misinformation currently on the Sunbeam Tiger Wiki. However we seem to beating our heads against their wall. The editors of the Wiki page remain convinced that we Tiger owners don't really know about Tigers. The editors think that after they've spent several months researching Tigers that they have it all down and dismiss guys like Dan who has several orders of magnitude more time spent investigating the marque. The editors insist on only allowing information in "their" Wiki that is based on cites to published material regardless of the accuracy of the material. This house of cards is based on the flawed assumption that the information published is accurate. Personally, I don't want to expend a lot of effort dealing with wacko wiki volunteers when we could simply draft and post our own "Wiki" on either the Tigers United or CAT sites. If we want to go this route we could... 1) start with a clean sheet of paper 2) follow the format of the exiting Wiki (this would make it easier for the Wiki editors to see our differences.) 3) follow the format of a Tiger article now posted on the TU site (providing we could get permission from the author, Von Levandowski). see http://tigersunited.com/history/tdev.asp Let me know your thoughts or if you want to help participate in the project. Together, maybe we can rough something out this week. Buck Trippel _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3408 / Virus Database: 3222/6662 - Release Date: 09/13/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 14 21:41:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262CE4271E for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 21:41:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f181.google.com (mail-vc0-f181.google.com [209.85.220.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BD894054F for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 18:32:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id hz10so1921348vcb.40 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 17:32:17 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=gsAo7j5U1xY2/rhsMTsU4dsOTt+wo3p6Fb9OVs6yWO4=; b=da60dXxAfulMJ9avA8iSIG0tvwkYCDq4TBl/pVcflSQ2huF8NH7mWdH+slv3y13542 aMMu2ykUW3CxJel2CSJE0isYLrCAGwcF7qCV/Jkjx6eZgRmsSdI8RSBANoWdz0knvoV4 7sx49qQ/g92ga6oHzNn8+faHFyWlYwUOO6N/mL+5CpksZ/CgpokHIFEdtqYMKH+ywUAc ky1kUbh6faeajttqBBjlqrHEuOFz1McH02ichhZQHzODxmhYjwgB7YufpEM8IgyBjpGI 9Qrol62p1FDDkWfoYC98yGc0M1aNvqPdTWL9vNf8XO+LvwgF8reWzniIXdFCM5QTgC9B 7yfg== bl5mr16921909vdc.18.1379205137290; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 17:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.168.71 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 17:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.168.71 with HTTP; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 17:32:17 -0700 (PDT) References: <5E293BF8F0474FA69865E3837FF7D273@D7F0WHF1> Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 20:32:17 -0400 From: Chip Broadbooks To: denis mercier Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air filter Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net K&N E-2859 On Sep 14, 2013 8:20 PM, "denis mercier" wrote: > Hi All. > I want change air filter on my Tiger, is someone have a cross reference for > Tiger air Filter, i would like to buy one at my local parts supplier. > Thanks ! > Denis. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/chip.broadbooks@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 14 21:44:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96CFD42881 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 21:44:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.hughes.net (smtp.hughes.net [69.168.97.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FA7403CF for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 18:42:40 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=wSimgjRY8KGuLRHhNvJViw==:117 a=wSimgjRY8KGuLRHhNvJViw==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=bIVlh2vrpGcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=pOfvU1qiAAAA:8 a=i6GyoXqjcfoA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=Ex37uuwIBYeu4EEJ9moA:9 a=WOIU4bhXfCEZIEPb:21 a=OLlIZzg2PpGUiY_O:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=T7dl6hF01GMA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp01.hughes.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=jimmc13@hughes.net; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp01.hughes.cmh.synacor.com header.from=jimmc13@hughes.net; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp01.hughes.cmh.synacor.com smtp.user=jimmc13@hughes.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp01.hughes.cmh.synacor.com: 67.143.84.84 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of hughes.net) Received: from [67.143.84.84] ([67.143.84.84:2616] helo=RedBudAdminPC) by smtp.hughes.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPA id D0/65-15797-65205325; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 20:42:05 -0400 From: "jimmc13" To: "'denis mercier'" , References: <5E293BF8F0474FA69865E3837FF7D273@D7F0WHF1> Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 19:41:59 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac6xqXa8K43G/wDLQV2sMW0HdApsMgAAnqHw Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air filter Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Denis, Try this, courtesy of Theo Smit: Part# ID OD Height E-2859 11.75 13.5 1.5 - height is like the original paper one E-3710 11.75 13.5 2 E-3717 11.75 13.5 2.5 E-3720 11.75 13.5 2.75 E-3723 11.75 13.5 3 For any over 1.5 inches in height, check for proper hood closure and clearance. Jim B382000175 -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of denis mercier Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 5:14 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Air filter Hi All. I want change air filter on my Tiger, is someone have a cross reference for Tiger air Filter, i would like to buy one at my local parts supplier. Thanks ! Denis. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimmc13@hughes.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 14 21:51:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 943E642953 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 21:51:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cmta5.telus.net (cmta5.telus.net [209.171.16.78]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8AD4053C for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 19:08:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from JimPC ([64.180.202.97]) by cmta5.telus.net with TELUS id RD8Y1m00226biso01D8YFP; Sat, 14 Sep 2013 19:08:33 -0600 a=XGpgU1NhXoD5BHGiwmP3cg==:17 a=kg4CHXgqtSEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dyTapXDjAAAA:8 a=i6GyoXqjcfoA:10 a=Pyq9K9CWowscuQLKlpiwfMBGOR0=:19 a=BAZU7i3ZAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=_CauWQfk6YGb4hc_OIcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=evZ_a0MlGNUA:10 a=XGpgU1NhXoD5BHGiwmP3cg==:117 From: "jim" To: "'denis mercier'" , References: <5E293BF8F0474FA69865E3837FF7D273@D7F0WHF1> Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2013 18:07:48 -0700 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: Ac6xqVjv70TTesXNTwiHEWGYyopjKgABkAbA Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air filter Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Denis You can buy a K&N air filter that should last you forever as it's cleanable and reusable... http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?prod=E-2859 I'm sure one of your local suppliers will handle K&N products... Jim B382000446 -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of denis mercier Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 3:14 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Air filter Hi All. I want change air filter on my Tiger, is someone have a cross reference for Tiger air Filter, i would like to buy one at my local parts supplier. Thanks ! Denis. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 15 10:44:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA0040425 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 10:44:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8DB4041D for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 08:03:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id gq1so2824770obb.12 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 07:02:59 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=3AGoWJCC2j+RRztS0K5FtDElZ0DwvRIcCsO8vHn4egg=; b=L0SuTok2/hVSKTXyGOYg+rLfZ3i8sicShFeINYm2BPNmMrhlgMcxAnxqaxGp6YNjxZ +5GYjDxvw3VJ23oVHj/PQpyykMAk2QQEwfDnoGwRSIyZH5zbKtfZ5NynT/gS+jZvs9H8 jQt3EepGTSylATD2Y529YiLnHQKTiudti+LkJMU1+ez3jOABc2qqkGbN+1ovfu5AbUjE Maa4R07kKBDxDWVeHpujWnl0Q6XeU3p5dTa4VleiZhu001l5CclHkphuWrp+UmpnUGY8 XeZd7WSOiQkU9O1ipWtz4LAzFuQCITeyD7Dp0RXZxu2It/3jDr/qc3SQBgTMATuY8pWb lhgw== Sun, 15 Sep 2013 07:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.34.196 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 07:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 00:02:58 +1000 From: michael king To: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: [Tigers] RAC TT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tiger was doing great.. running top 5 until rear brake caliper popped a seal and it has retired after 6 laps.. car had issue at start but Rib Huff started it anyway and fought on.. but retired it on safety grounds. watch it live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RQERC3camM You ca scroll back and watch the start -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 15 13:54:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D147540555 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 13:54:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta005.mxout.tch.inty.net [91.221.169.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230A740381 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 11:00:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71D7418D5B9 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 17:59:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472FB18CD21 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 17:59:55 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.1.92] (unknown [81.159.240.229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mdfmta005.tch.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 17:59:55 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 17:59:54 +0100 From: Jeff Howarth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: tigers@autox.team.net References: <44CB75567B4247F9928D5358AC7D4A06@HPamdX2> <58D40BD485C34946B2D7EEA3AE6EC37D@optiplex3301> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Well, it seems that a lot of the articles written by Mr Corbett relate to the area around me in the UK, So he is either from here originally or still lives here. I am happy to meet him, show him a couple of my Tigers and as the UK Alpine club cxoncourse judge this tyear, give him a little advice if he wants it. Anyone in touch with him? Jeff On 14/09/2013 20:58, Thomas Witt wrote: > Buck - All, > > Is there a common person (designated person?) working on this that we > might send suggestions to? As I look over even the beginning of the > Wikipedia site I find information that thought not inaccurate, seems > vague. Given the limitations of the AutoX system I'll put my comments > in brackets. > > As an example: "and for two years [what two years?] it was the > American Hot Rod Association's national record holder over a > quarter-mile drag strip [this reads as if the Tiger was the fastest > car - ever - in the quarter mile during the undisclosed time period. > There should be a reference to the specific class the car held the > record in]. > > And, yes, Mr. Corbett does NOT sound like the type of chap that would > sit down for a spot of tea and muse about the accuracy of Tiger > information. > > Tom > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Buck Trippel" > > To: ; > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 8:51 AM > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki > > >> For those who want to see the ongoing dialog with Wiki and the >> volunteers, here are some links: >> >> to the Sunbeam Tiger Wiki Article >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunbeam_Tiger >> >> to the Tiger Wiki "Talk" (newest entry is on the bottom) >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sunbeam_Tiger >> >> to Eric Corbett's "Talk" >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eric_Corbett >> >> FYI, in the Wiki "Talks" the newest posts are at the end. >> >> Buck Trippel > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jeff@v8tiger.demon.co.uk _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 15 15:44:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BE540548 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 15:44:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.demon.co.uk (mdfmta009.mxout.tbr.inty.net [91.221.168.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4D840407 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 12:46:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A63538408B for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:45:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 588FB384083 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:45:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from [192.168.1.92] (unknown [81.159.240.229]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mdfmta009.tbr.inty.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:45:50 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:45:48 +0100 From: Jeff Howarth User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: tigers@autox.team.net References: <44CB75567B4247F9928D5358AC7D4A06@HPamdX2> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mr Corbett might be this one based on his geographic knowledge. (I did say might) http://www.192.com - search Eric corbett in Manchester, there is only one. It is about 5 miles from em and I am aunaware of any significant Tiger populations in the area or long term Tiger experts other than those from the known contributors to the UK club. Don't reacall any Rooted development staff living in the area either. Of course, the internet has the power to make a mouse appear an elephant. As many have said, regurgitating text from published books doesn't make them accurate if they are wrong in the first place. On 14/09/2013 16:51, Buck Trippel wrote: > For those who want to see the ongoing dialog with Wiki and the > volunteers, here are some links: > > to the Sunbeam Tiger Wiki Article > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunbeam_Tiger > > to the Tiger Wiki "Talk" (newest entry is on the bottom) > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sunbeam_Tiger > > to Eric Corbett's "Talk" > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Eric_Corbett > > FYI, in the Wiki "Talks" the newest posts are at the end. > > Buck Trippel > > > -----Original Message----- From: Owain Lloyd > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 1:47 PM > To: spmdr@juno.com > Cc: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki > > Eric Corbett needs a dose of corporal punishment. What a dick. > > Anyway I suggest we all tell him as much on his talk page. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jeff@v8tiger.demon.co.uk _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 15 18:46:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F99406A2 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 18:46:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.firstva.com (smtp.firstva.com [66.207.76.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99A28403DB for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 16:39:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 228.sub-70-208-149.myvzw.com ([70.208.149.228] helo=emachineb50903) by smtp.firstva.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VLL9C-00009P-T2; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 18:50:31 -0400 From: "Russ" To: "Terry Packer" , References: <1379104812.39980.YahooMailNeo@web141101.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 18:39:19 -0400 Subject: Re: [Tigers] License Plate Light Bracket - Revisited Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mine is original and black. Russ B9471661 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Terry Packer" To: Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 4:40 PM Subject: [Tigers] License Plate Light Bracket - Revisited > Recently there was a discussion of whether the rear bracket for the > license plate lights was originally painted black or body color. Can > anyone refresh me whether there was agreement on the correct answer and > what it was? > > Thanks > Terry Packer > 9470018 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/russe@firstva.com > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.932 / Virus Database: 3222.1.1/6156 - Release Date: 09/11/13 08:01:00 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 15 20:03:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4886C40548 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 20:03:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2lp0208.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029F640541 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 17:50:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BY2PR07MB074.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.255.240.154) by BY2PR07MB074.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.255.240.154) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.745.25; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 23:50:42 +0000 Received: from BY2PR07MB074.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.15.100]) by BY2PR07MB074.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.15.100]) with mapi id 15.00.0745.000; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 23:50:41 +0000 From: "Taylor, Matthew" To: Thomas Witt , "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Wiki Thread-Index: AQHOsWJVwsx5yfkHc0+orJrMEFK26pnF0ebVgAGlK8A= Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 23:50:41 +0000 References: <44CB75567B4247F9928D5358AC7D4A06@HPamdX2> <58D40BD485C34946B2D7EEA3AE6EC37D@optiplex3301> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [99.22.95.144] x-forefront-prvs: 0970508454 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(199002)(189002)(65816001)(76576001)(81686001)(80976001)(76796001)(76786001)(76482001)(77982001)(59766001)(56776001)(54316002)(77096001)(54356001)(31966008)(56816003)(53806001)(80022001)(66066001)(33646001)(81816001)(69226001)(83322001)(74662001)(74502001)(81542001)(47446002)(74706001)(74876001)(81342001)(51856001)(63696002)(74366001)(46102001)(79102001)(4396001)(83072001)(74316001)(49866001)(47976001)(50986001)(47736001)(24736002); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2PR07MB074; H:BY2PR07MB074.namprd07.prod.outlook.com; CLIP:99.22.95.144; RD:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net For the record, which is vague, Gordon became a nation record holder sometime in 1965 (at the latest, this was August 1965) and held the record, with faster and faster times until at least sometime in 1967. Who knows, doubtful, but his record may have held for a year or two after that. Regardless, I'd say it was closer to 3 years than 2. The class he was in, in the AHRA, was XFA or Foreign Sports. As the AHRA and the media did not report much on the slower classes, especially after 1966, I have not even been able to verify the time that is published in the older Tiger publications, where that happened, or when. If anyone has any info on the car, I'm still researching. Matthew On Behalf Of Thomas Witt As an example: "and for two years [what two years?] it was the American Hot Rod Association's national record holder over a quarter-mile drag strip [this reads as if the Tiger was the fastest car - ever - in the quarter mile during the undisclosed time period. There should be a reference to the specific class the car held the record in]. And, yes, Mr. Corbett does NOT sound like the type of chap that would sit down for a spot of tea and muse about the accuracy of Tiger information. Tom _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 15 21:26:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EE754276F for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 21:26:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173025pub.verizon.net (vms173025pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D8B240407 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:16:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BuckLaptop ([unknown] [173.58.229.205]) by vms173025.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MT700HNO2782BJ0@vms173025.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 20:16:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "Buck Trippel" To: "'Dave Munroe'" , "'snakebit289'" , References: <1379093719.41352.YahooMailNeo@web161001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1F987A81D85C4B75B57AAF8BEFD5D4BA@DavePC> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 18:16:12 -0700 Thread-index: AQJoAqamSObyDi/L5PZHtil/hs77ugJs5JjOmIGHxSA= Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers - fake ID's Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net An additional piece of information: this Tiger TAC'ed fine this week. Buck Trippel -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Munroe Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 11:20 AM To: snakebit289; tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers - fake ID's There are many of us out there with TAC'd cars and no VIN or JAL plate. I am one of them. Seeing this cobbled together VIN plate has convinced me not to do the same. I think its better to show a valid TAC decal and a certificate than an obviously counterfeited set of plates. The opportunities to lose these original plates are so myriad that a seller of a legitimate Tiger should have no fear of proving provenance through the TAC program. On my scuttle I have a VIN plate with the info printed on a clear sticker; no possibility of anyone thinking I was trying to fool a buyer. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "snakebit289" To: Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:35 PM Subject: [Tigers] Tigers - fake ID's > As I posted to the Franchi bros, in the end it doesn't matter about the > tags, > if someone we knew was interested in this car, we would suggest sending a > CAT > member who could tell ( I think the car is in Long Beach?) and check it > out. > Rande > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/dave@munroe.ca _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/bucktrippel@verizon.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 15 21:28:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5CB427C1 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 21:28:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc2-s22.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s22.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7211C40046 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 20:00:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY172-W27 ([65.54.190.123]) by bay0-omc2-s22.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 15 Sep 2013 18:59:58 -0700 From: "Paul R. Breuhan" To: Terry Packer , Tigers Den Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 21:59:57 -0400 References: , <1379104812.39980.YahooMailNeo@web141101.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>, <3044790F6A5D4CE99A7E62F9B5656AD4@emachineb50903> FILETIME=[7222BBC0:01CEB280] Subject: Re: [Tigers] License Plate Light Bracket - Revisited Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I remember mine as being black, also. I ended up painting it a Rust-Oleum Hammertone Silver...gave it a nice period look. Paul > From: russe@firstva.com > To: packertl3@yahoo.com; tigers@Autox.Team.Net > Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 18:39:19 -0400 > Subject: Re: [Tigers] License Plate Light Bracket - Revisited > > Mine is original and black. > Russ > B9471661 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Terry Packer" > To: > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 4:40 PM > Subject: [Tigers] License Plate Light Bracket - Revisited > > > > Recently there was a discussion of whether the rear bracket for the > > license plate lights was originally painted black or body color. Can > > anyone refresh me whether there was agreement on the correct answer and > > what it was? > > > > Thanks > > Terry Packer > > 9470018 > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/russe@firstva.com > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.932 / Virus Database: 3222.1.1/6156 - Release Date: 09/11/13 > 08:01:00 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/prbreuhan@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 15 21:28:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F17D84296E for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 21:28:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f180.google.com (mail-lb0-f180.google.com [209.85.217.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C743403DD for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 20:08:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f180.google.com with SMTP id q8so3570199lbi.25 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:08:37 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=vU9fJvUcj+9omDjcXXHfDcHdMVX54in4AbbKEHiB7a8=; b=sS/4ZCJYDKzhnbe4+J/Knx1UMoGyc9xP7mVtOGwRu0Fn0ZG4yFUec/otmhmfP0V1JM C5199iQKOoADYmeKXbvAXHD1MB64i+txCWxZ6H82JG1/SMhftwpFqdQRc7aqysMXuD2M U8CuOtF6VQ/P3kZIipmKLd8fjZCuy8mRBmk/YXhVqIMUOX554IvYB9m1xmhVXdcoUYpo zoZwSTCILpTtOEHNnvYsHVySFbO+Rsv7oRrlIQV9I0n/g0FJCdcrlXKY1e5DDgJzo0BL fE2ufB4UwviG53jd4LuLbzDs5LWABLqB3fCW0TJGAqPlz4YZexbbhaYItB9wb0F+SbIy iCBg== jp16mr22686232lab.17.1379297317720; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.204.69 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:08:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.204.69 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:08:37 -0700 (PDT) References: <44CB75567B4247F9928D5358AC7D4A06@HPamdX2> <58D40BD485C34946B2D7EEA3AE6EC37D@optiplex3301> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:08:37 -0400 From: "michael@michaelshortt.com" To: "Taylor, Matthew" Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I have that info as well as photos of the car at my office, I will post tomorrow. Michael Shortt On Sep 15, 2013 10:04 PM, "Taylor, Matthew" wrote: > For the record, which is vague, Gordon became a nation record holder > sometime > in 1965 (at the latest, this was August 1965) and held the record, with > faster > and faster times until at least sometime in 1967. Who knows, doubtful, but > his record may have held for a year or two after that. Regardless, I'd > say it > was closer to 3 years than 2. The class he was in, in the AHRA, was XFA or > Foreign Sports. As the AHRA and the media did not report much on the > slower > classes, especially after 1966, I have not even been able to verify the > time > that is published in the older Tiger publications, where that happened, or > when. > > If anyone has any info on the car, I'm still researching. > > Matthew > > > On Behalf Of Thomas Witt > > As an example: "and for two years [what two years?] it was the American > Hot > Rod Association's national record holder over a quarter-mile drag strip > [this > reads as if the Tiger was the fastest car - ever - in the quarter mile > during > the undisclosed time period. There should be a reference to the specific > class the car held the record in]. > > And, yes, Mr. Corbett does NOT sound like the type of chap that would sit > down > for a spot of tea and muse about the accuracy of Tiger information. > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael@michaelshortt.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 15 22:31:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F0154051F for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:31:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f50.google.com (mail-la0-f50.google.com [209.85.215.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B323403D4 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 20:21:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id lv10so2602632lab.23 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:20:57 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Q7MoAxNrRo3dLuWRY1fkaQVBrsJIo7Cm2v6doFDy2u0=; b=LGrHTp/vxuuXRlhwg/IyRbIsNnsjXWfb9qdyLLnYPvo/ujA9whXBLXd50zfwolysVs 46A9+aHRLgS0AVKhltr43R9X+YowPUWkFZko9XEG2151SlOlnuGwMEbzSRumD13H/hEG G5SkQYcX9pZ/fn/y4G3Y+iCMK4BShjmEvinC08VfO3Eqe9A8YyVWbnZ1R+6lBRq/3Ame rHZ5mcYr2+MTYHdxBc5WBVssr/Zdvx6I4Lqb6Y1rO1w7NSE+GEZ4BJ5DRatzT6MHUORD JGo+WcmZ3YEjwhN3DUmHag3vq910xfKCSVpy8BnhqqOmNcW5eD7vYQrDq80AlkFxDu/Z upOg== Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.204.69 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:20:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.204.69 with HTTP; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 19:20:57 -0700 (PDT) References: <44CB75567B4247F9928D5358AC7D4A06@HPamdX2> <58D40BD485C34946B2D7EEA3AE6EC37D@optiplex3301> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:20:57 -0400 From: "michael@michaelshortt.com" To: Matthew Taylor Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wiki Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Looks like the 1/4 mile e.t. was 12.84 @ 108 or 128 mph. Fuzzy photo. Michael Shortt On Sep 15, 2013 10:08 PM, "michael@michaelshortt.com" < michaelsavga@gmail.com> wrote: > I have that info as well as photos of the car at my office, I will post > tomorrow. > > Michael Shortt > On Sep 15, 2013 10:04 PM, "Taylor, Matthew" wrote: > >> For the record, which is vague, Gordon became a nation record holder >> sometime >> in 1965 (at the latest, this was August 1965) and held the record, with >> faster >> and faster times until at least sometime in 1967. Who knows, doubtful, >> but >> his record may have held for a year or two after that. Regardless, I'd >> say it >> was closer to 3 years than 2. The class he was in, in the AHRA, was XFA >> or >> Foreign Sports. As the AHRA and the media did not report much on the >> slower >> classes, especially after 1966, I have not even been able to verify the >> time >> that is published in the older Tiger publications, where that happened, or >> when. >> >> If anyone has any info on the car, I'm still researching. >> >> Matthew >> >> >> On Behalf Of Thomas Witt >> >> As an example: "and for two years [what two years?] it was the American >> Hot >> Rod Association's national record holder over a quarter-mile drag strip >> [this >> reads as if the Tiger was the fastest car - ever - in the quarter mile >> during >> the undisclosed time period. There should be a reference to the specific >> class the car held the record in]. >> >> And, yes, Mr. Corbett does NOT sound like the type of chap that would sit >> down >> for a spot of tea and muse about the accuracy of Tiger information. >> >> Tom >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael@michaelshortt.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 15 23:55:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E1E6406A8 for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 23:55:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448694043F for ; Sun, 15 Sep 2013 22:19:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.77]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7A104700000AC for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 00:19:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dta001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dta001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.162.129]) by mtaomg-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 358BFE000086 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 00:19:48 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net From: veeseeoso@aol.com Received: from 50.151.177.229 by webmail-m218.sysops.aol.com (64.12.75.239) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 16 Sep 2013 00:19:48 -0400 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 00:19:48 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1379305188; bh=K4LLIekDOo0hU00kFDWOqQo6MxHNVQr//HN68gqVGa4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FBACKVPvoQes3HFYE1XE5aTKlMJxGh6rqV44Wm5GPSQXoZBX8TMjuZtfe66cx5Its rdEMGtlx3cumk3AriPYzUKCUv3FTqSrSDhbzClkXiWbdvhPLxC4jozDC0B5/3sAT0p Wyb6KW7P0x6RWGPOHin9ngz3sNM0/KKO3iuptWFQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294d523686e4310f Subject: [Tigers] 2013 All Ford Car Show Autobahn Joliet Sept 29 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Fellow Tiger Owners, The Chicago Vintage Mustang Club presents its 7th Annual Trackside Mustang & All Ford Car Show & Shine, Sunday September 29, 2013 at the Autobahn Country Club, 3795 Center Point Way, Joliet, IL. Gates open 8am Registration 8-11 Judging 11 Parade laps on track for all participating show cars @ noon Trophies @ 3 Gates close @ 5. Rain or Shine. There is so much to see and do at Autobahn Country Club. You can walk through the paddock and pits and see the race cars and drivers up close and personal. There will be a racing event on both tracks that Sunday for your viewing pleasure. The Autobahn has the best food anywhere provided by their own award winning culinary team. Do you like go karts? Autobahn has an awesome track and performance go karts for rent starting at $25. When arriving at Autobahn, all participants and spectators must get a wristband in the gate house. Please park and enter the gate house to sign in. $20 admits one Show Car which includes two adults, $5 for each additional adult. Spectators are $5 per adult, spectator parking is free. Ages 13 and younger always free admission with paid adult. Please note: Some GPS units may give you incorrect directions so please reference the internet. What a great way to end the 2013 Cruising Season! All FoMoCo, All Day! Respectfully Submitted, Henry Vicioso Joliet, IL _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 16 10:59:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B76754051F for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 10:59:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853B04038B for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 09:25:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004962.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r8GFPwE4029723 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 08:26:29 -0700 Received: by dm0224.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 43ca9d92) id dm0224.520b156c.465fcf for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 08:25:01 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 08:24:57 -0700 From: Larry Mayfield Organization: Mayfield Motorsport User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-16_04:2013-09-16,2013-09-15,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=1 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309160071 Subject: [Tigers] The Wiki Controversy Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I just have to chime is a bit on the subject of inaccurate information on Wiki regards our Sunbeams. Buck has a good idea, but let me go a step farther: how about the major Sunbeam organizations, here and abroad, could be sitting down somewhere over a pint or two and coming up with a plan to generate the ultimate Sunbeam history with factual references. Include even those information items disagreed with and so state why disagreement is there. When finalized, then let any and every organization have it free of charge for their web sites. Make it a pdf document. And take money out of the equation by, as I said, making it free: i.e. no published for money text books or documents. . Take a year or two to accomplish the effort. But, set goals and deadlines so it gets done. I would suggest a method similar to genealogy, if provenance does not exist for a fact or the fact cannot be proven, it exists only as a foot note. Make this a definitive history and factual account of the cars and people who built them, drive them, modify them, and own them. Include everything possible. No, I am not volunteering, I am aging out, lol. mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 16 12:12:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6C840514 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 12:12:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4610540381 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 09:53:52 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1379346824; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=To:Date:Subject:Content-Type:From:Message-Id; b=MhG5sHtZInu4PdWvQH4BB129udIzOSQB3c5xQN1nVyrnycKUbiU3+7cwRqeCZ/4g9 NDlzCmYDvdRGltNIHg4zIFRXOLTU8Cf030pZKFBP+gy97nJTI73N+MDJEj1N5xddMV DEvVcnDVX6dAEjBmodU6FIpgii2/jnCIOApFNk1E= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (mailpop12.vgs.untd.com [10.181.45.32]) by smtpout02.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABKDQLMBAN2HBUS for (sender ); Mon, 16 Sep 2013 08:53:05 -0700 (PDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 08:54:12 -0800 From: Subject: [Tigers] Wiki... the next level Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net After failing at an end run on Wiki, I have regrouped and started anew. I have made my splash on the Wiki Tiger page "talk" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Sunbeam_Tiger#Better_than_FA It has BEGONE! BTW, in the world of Wiki, FA ( Featured Article, is the HIGHEST quality ) I will be attempting to fix Wiki by SLOWLY taking a swing at individual low hanging erroneous fruit. I still don't know enough to feel comfortable in the effort but I'm learning. Failing that this effort, there is a Project I call "Cat in the box" started by others that is well under way, as the next plan. DW _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 16 16:48:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2344406B1 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:48:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo103.cox.net (eastrmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.215]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B3A40356 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 14:56:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo110 ([68.230.241.223]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130916205640.IWGD3894.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo110> for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:56:40 -0400 Received: from 3bfd27b5ca44402 ([68.0.203.224]) by eastrmimpo110 with cox id Rwwf1m00W4r0BB001wwge8; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:56:40 -0400 a=gg9dJcsBQvBgteaj+bfURg==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=-in3ZKsen9oA:10 a=Qi9X2pcHYTCKCVxaVUgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=rvZnlwHqzkUA:10 a=4wBTWaMQ3ToA:10 a=gg9dJcsBQvBgteaj+bfURg==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Alvin Johnson" To: References: <44CB75567B4247F9928D5358AC7D4A06@HPamdX2><58D40BD485C34946B2D7EEA3AE6EC37D@optiplex3301> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:57:48 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Off topic---tool question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I recently bought some used tools from a widow of a deceased mechanic. Among them was an outsize black socket 32mmW155. I wonder if this is for a special application? I recall hearing that a VW/Porsche has such---any ideas? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 16 20:10:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B3A40449 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:10:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f54.google.com (mail-vb0-f54.google.com [209.85.212.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4A134274C for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:58:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vb0-f54.google.com with SMTP id q14so3489436vbe.13 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:58:26 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Mz9qCxhLQgqq0fGcKS1kVI2qghWNgDCy3e7Sjr05ckc=; b=y+2uG/9JXltbjQX/uBxwsAfahPMV3yTQKTPsFb0J5WK9H1tOu7WsJanqWkIv8dRW5A k6M4hyYwXIcoE1OXvzWiquYPYJjP7k+X14RONhUUv3ewzYtQ+SQqv6uioqROeK0JrPcb BHNVksK4YCzoQwFNdkICbT4NmkLn6Kv7ynkynS0A7YctfUcsyZ7ccnvPujeFj2DOJSK1 rxs59+Jw82CrwKgQJVBYcasYwTN+/EGiLTT8Gyej3J9FCXNQJzgVX/8/yB9PHOmz6ZKv TMHRwJT5rjHnGv/ZbKd3BxTHfyfMRXbzuTgQZiVxmMYce7th2GOlxOM3SEn1sf9z/1wW DOjQ== Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.104.84 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 15:51:57 -0700 (PDT) References: <44CB75567B4247F9928D5358AC7D4A06@HPamdX2> <58D40BD485C34946B2D7EEA3AE6EC37D@optiplex3301> <3433389014DA4DAABEF024E266C93E02@3bfd27b5ca44402> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:51:57 -0400 From: Owain Lloyd To: Alvin Johnson Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Off topic---tool question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fairly common axle nut size. Especially on front wheel drive cars. On Monday, September 16, 2013, Alvin Johnson wrote: > I recently bought some used tools from a widow of a deceased mechanic. > Among them was an outsize black socket 32mmW155. > I wonder if this is for a special application? > I recall hearing that a VW/Porsche has such---any ideas? > ______________________________**_________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/tigers/owain.lloyd@** > gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 16 20:13:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BD8740572 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:13:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f46.google.com (mail-qa0-f46.google.com [209.85.216.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC65403A6; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 17:38:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id j7so1511748qaq.5 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:38:44 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date :content-type:mime-version; bh=Y02Kz0iIxuDkT0sgdyXkCCQ1f0XHr0/w2VJSlNcvNiU=; b=FBWyEUa8SkNokhT9QmEswwVVWj4sCiiYvGpJFUYjKH40jAs4wG3MK20t72sGDqFcQJ khwTJabXfWhGe1puGX+fpqlj7/eYxRQv3btTUnxpjn8PG1XNEOKqjjc5pZ9Xip82aavs SotmRPD0RMbFv0fUvg2C9wp478eY+H/IDG4W3FErragV+9pdYMrLtuFRap2Y+F6dxe13 S1f5lne5NmEcDAftHvCu40afx/VJYjDKmPSPT3QAaV7HHtckRFoIC79QsVv7AiuigFuH Q1GdGGHYIlHgtpY3OKkXg1Cr2zIIuSmuCuKJP8dIOyJ5cS4Um9AKifNYv28s7GADMlLA TG7w== c10mr2483606qaq.55.1379374724771; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:38:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.187 (bda-74-82-80-176.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 3sm26773979qau.3.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:38:44 -0700 (PDT) Sensitivity: Normal To: "Alvin Johnson" , tigers-bounces@autox.team.net, tigers@autox.team.net From: jay.laifman@gmail.com Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 23:38:30 +0000 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Off topic---tool question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net My Porsche and VW both definitely use a 36mm. But is the W for Whitworth? If so, I'm pretty sure the Germans would mix it up like that. I can ask around though. ------Original Message------ From: Alvin Johnson To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Off topic---tool question Sent: Sep 16, 2013 1:57 PM I recently bought some used tools from a widow of a deceased mechanic. Among them was an outsize black socket 32mmW155. I wonder if this is for a special application? I recall hearing that a VW/Porsche has such---any ideas? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 16 20:20:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 416FC40E20 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:20:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37C140405 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:56:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from optiplex3301 ([unknown] [71.104.80.155]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MT8006L7T5VN220@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 18:56:19 -0500 (CDT) From: "Thomas Witt" To: References: <44CB75567B4247F9928D5358AC7D4A06@HPamdX2><58D40BD485C34946B2D7EEA3AE6EC37D@optiplex3301> <3433389014DA4DAABEF024E266C93E02@3bfd27b5ca44402> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 16:56:19 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Off topic---tool question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The only nuts that approaches that size are for the rear axle hubs. I just did a quick check (to the point the cotter pin got in the way). It seems 32 mm could be a metric "close enough" if needed. Tom >I recently bought some used tools from a widow of a deceased mechanic. > Among them was an outsize black socket 32mmW155. > I wonder if this is for a special application? > I recall hearing that a VW/Porsche has such---any ideas? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 16 21:19:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54D740441 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:19:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520EA40322 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 19:42:43 -0600 (MDT) a=JAY1dAhf1mjzVITC+/sjcQ==:17 a=fERs1dMV8CEA:10 a=AZjnxIcetMEA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=khJQ6waB97cA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=AL8Ry8HqgZ2MuQk6BkIA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=JAY1dAhf1mjzVITC+/sjcQ==:117 Received: from [75.190.185.180] ([75.190.185.180:4428] helo=D32K5JC1) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 53/C7-00725-983B7325; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 01:42:34 +0000 From: "Sigma Engineering" To: References: <44CB75567B4247F9928D5358AC7D4A06@HPamdX2><58D40BD485C34946B2D7EEA3AE6EC37D@optiplex3301> <3433389014DA4DAABEF024E266C93E02@3bfd27b5ca44402> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:42:55 -0400 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Off topic---tool question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I know that will remove the axle nut on an '82 BMW 320i.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvin Johnson" To: Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 4:57 PM Subject: [Tigers] Off topic---tool question >I recently bought some used tools from a widow of a deceased mechanic. > Among them was an outsize black socket 32mmW155. > I wonder if this is for a special application? > I recall hearing that a VW/Porsche has such---any ideas? > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sigmaengr@carolina.rr.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 16 22:11:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3414D40441 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 22:11:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1646E4003E for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 20:23:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.98]) by qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id S2JJ1m00827AodY542Pekj; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 02:23:38 +0000 Received: from OldHickory.comcast.net ([24.125.152.10]) by omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id S2Pc1m01B0DizLw3f2Pe8m; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 02:23:38 +0000 Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 22:19:00 -0400 To: "Alvin Johnson" , From: Marc James Small References: <44CB75567B4247F9928D5358AC7D4A06@HPamdX2> <58D40BD485C34946B2D7EEA3AE6EC37D@optiplex3301> <3433389014DA4DAABEF024E266C93E02@3bfd27b5ca44402> s=q20121106; t=1379384618; bh=laKEYWMIA+dKigXtu6+aoADxt4O/r+uw4oAVxdB2WDw=; h=Received:Received:Date:To:From:Subject:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=tWC9PvaDr2VlXIaeW5h4SxNSzD+NnyCxJFlmY9+vbcaQHcCbbAANmHgVFbruOjclK XffvQnWKfGRfS4+EJXm5hl9FQlI3T/BHyHlMTigEcKDo4slX63D+9Adf/o69nrG21O sVGIun0IMpLuhSg9B/SSqFWC7p064xq7pD35Rvpc1r2bBN946DzKNXZ9DlzrnJKwkU Kq3RxH3/YlyTvN2kYGkyEGrmnqJSK0sL0/N4kNRZ6xOYXDyPc2JrvclM6fW67yIjrV ilJPrpdJNJilz3K/pHroukAa0KQ9uLfvWzAB0b7tVXSoVLUWP87tsbiem+E/Rzw6w6 aC+p/P6CtW1Xw== Subject: Re: [Tigers] Off topic---tool question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net At 04:57 PM 9/16/2013, Alvin Johnson wrote: >I recently bought some used tools from a widow of a deceased mechanic. >Among them was an outsize black socket 32mmW155. >I wonder if this is for a special application? >I recall hearing that a VW/Porsche has such---any ideas? >_______________________________________________ Generator nut and rear wheel hub nuts on air-cooled Beetles and Buses and KG's. I still have a couple of them around from my VW days. Marc msmall@aya.yale.edu Cha robh b`s fir gun ghr`s fir! _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 16 22:17:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BBD742745 for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 22:17:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m09.mx.aol.com (omr-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B019E4052D for ; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 21:23:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by omr-m09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id CA5997000008F; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 23:23:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mla003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mla003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.186.81]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 6D79CE000081; Mon, 16 Sep 2013 23:23:39 -0400 (EDT) From: CoolVT@aol.com Full-name: CoolVT Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 23:23:39 -0400 (EDT) To: sigmaengr@carolina.rr.com, tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1379388219; bh=haSxK8Np7YNccbwfzCJZ+eMU7HaM/nZArMGbZAfKoxE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CdNFMyXgQkgjKsDx+IGawV8aCTEZZWLbDn0ZfdNII4ly/sghGYRjNYmmIx1/u/v/G azEWwyhhVCpzTbXyMcVjZ36beEeIpARQfD7mwrsG+HVDEUAJhxum0WSNEdT5cj6sTw lUMkNL2gcpy2068IhOR953l++88b6AtfO31nOv4A= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c5237cb3b51ec Subject: Re: [Tigers] Off topic---tool question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Now all you have to do is convince your wife that you need a car to fit the wrench. In a message dated 9/16/2013 11:20:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, sigmaengr@carolina.rr.com writes: I know that will remove the axle nut on an '82 BMW 320i.... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alvin Johnson" To: Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 4:57 PM Subject: [Tigers] Off topic---tool question >I recently bought some used tools from a widow of a deceased mechanic. > Among them was an outsize black socket 32mmW155. > I wonder if this is for a special application? > I recall hearing that a VW/Porsche has such---any ideas? > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sigmaengr@carolina.rr.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 17 07:27:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E228C403A5 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 07:27:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from exprod5og117.obsmtp.com (exprod5og117.obsmtp.com [64.18.0.149]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C93F40325 for ; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 07:23:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cinmlip13.e2k.ad.ge.com ([12.71.149.1]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5ob117.postini.com ([64.18.4.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUjhX6DtghCFBSviqGywbKM2efXfEfv3x@postini.com; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 06:23:53 PDT Received: from unknown (HELO CINMBHT04.e2k.ad.ge.com) ([3.159.212.197]) by cinmlip13.e2k.ad.ge.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 17 Sep 2013 09:23:52 -0400 Received: from CINMLCH02.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.212.51) by CINMBHT04.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.212.197) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 09:23:51 -0400 Received: from CINMBAPD05.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.212.44) by CINMLCH02.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.212.51) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 09:23:51 -0400 Received: from CINMBCNA10.e2k.ad.ge.com ([169.254.4.241]) by CINMBAPD05.e2k.ad.ge.com ([169.254.7.44]) with mapi id 14.03.0146.000; Tue, 17 Sep 2013 09:23:51 -0400 From: "Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light)" To: Alvin Johnson , "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Off topic---tool question Thread-Index: AQHOsy781GfjvHKa9keXd57S4moV6ZnJ6vcQ Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2013 13:23:49 +0000 References: <44CB75567B4247F9928D5358AC7D4A06@HPamdX2><58D40BD485C34946B2D7EEA3AE6EC37D@optiplex3301> <3433389014DA4DAABEF024E266C93E02@3bfd27b5ca44402> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [3.159.212.193] Subject: Re: [Tigers] Off topic---tool question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The VW flywheel gland nut uses a 36mm socket (and about an eight foot cheater bar) to remove. Here is what you have, it's for front wheel drive axles and certain motorcycle countershaft sprocket nuts. http://www.amazon.com/Wilmar-W155-Front-Wheel-Socket/dp/B000N37BOM -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Alvin Johnson Sent: Monday, September 16, 2013 4:58 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Off topic---tool question I recently bought some used tools from a widow of a deceased mechanic. Among them was an outsize black socket 32mmW155. I wonder if this is for a special application? I recall hearing that a VW/Porsche has such---any ideas? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mark.rense@ge.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 18 12:31:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75AB2403ED for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:31:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B94403EA for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 12:31:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta002.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r8IITNXx015695 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:31:00 -0700 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 43ca9d92) id dm0213.523928c3.121a2 for ; Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:30:59 -0700 Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:30:55 -0700 From: Larry Mayfield Organization: Mayfield Motorsport User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-18_08:2013-09-18,2013-09-18,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309180094 Subject: [Tigers] 390 CFM 4 BBL Holley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net For those who just have to have a 390 4 barrel carb for their pet Tiger, here is a link to one on ebay. No involvement int his just passing it along... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Holley-390-CFM-four-barrel-carburetor-electric-choke-List-6299-small-engine-/360741923742?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item53fde4eb9e mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 19 19:29:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A75342AE4 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:29:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (unknown [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A149429A9 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 13:31:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id bj1so10069039pad.0 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:30:31 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Vf/HOdCbdDEQUn6A212rgYiuGR035wLp61WvCDLVj5c=; b=0huylTy50JsmKD3owt/dJ/+cKuqqKmmOWNpvOf/vpgVTg+hsUqA+hq8zOiHlRA+/9T DrU0WA7xBXqa2EXiESXC9um1sgaQz6gac3C6Gs5mkY3B9Hw4dCTuR2GwzrRBugIh8YCz zG1PdVW1BPEHkoe5YUbYdrAUItgaqdRWRXyAOTgtWl2yTDCcHmKagiOGJYUYIWAP9sF0 sVOyAv0hjo0TXzZNhy6bhBxFAevYv577EM6GtrI6tZS6kuDL5KMzt5Js5jrN3Yj6KD6B IDj7EfLnWeZvwE9ZSVOZJ/pZ6x7m/XrLqSkiLqOsDCu9dds6yWbQBtqTW/9p1XYebX81 4B7A== pg6mr3682428pbb.67.1379619031352; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.126.197 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 12:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:30:31 -0500 From: Cullen McCann To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] 427 "Tiger" on ebay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I think most of us have seen the car before. With the extreme nature of the car, I know its a controversial machine...but the photos of the car are incredible. The workmanship is pretty impressive. I am going to say what many of us have said before... I wouldn't cut up a good Tiger to do this...but I am also not a purist and thats not a matter of convenience, I choose not to be..... I MIGHT cut up a good Alpine to do this though.... I have cut up good Alpines for goals much less impressive than this. Love it or hate it, its an incredible machine and some really detailed photos. item number 121178512992 and link if it works: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121178512992&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1120 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 19 22:08:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8DD4429CE for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:08:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f175.google.com (mail-qc0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2494277B for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 19:55:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id v2so5958876qcr.6 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 18:55:13 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=l8CtXsRuK6UjoQswUXnqB8HwpWkSTYKsyeSpBmUzngc=; b=W0dWLlOg9PMN1i8IyR8I1an2dRo/yButefRy3h+FKKmYQ4oqVI12Xs+9+dv18YPPhf 6flBExObphAAgP0UcXUUo7Q1B0JWXtAH9bY+81h9+comMdkDrN0DzNEu9a3yXe5S6p4B evd2eKPVeTHAZNgIBNYX+21Leg5h/EF9v9CYBRgTJ3dxlhq165ybQkppqpxoe93/RcVZ 0TfQz/6EBx0xyVsDpPBI6ukJcCdnquPTJYW/bS2F0tD9D/0BznZRrroNyvJ6v9APKCUe IHmkeXMhdg9uvn5KDJgSB1hiFP6E5sZyFtGmHRgmzzdD7TWIBl2jiJzxKsbLga/jZX4m Waaw== oh9mr7959884qeb.10.1379642113846; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 18:55:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.37.198 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 18:55:13 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 21:55:13 -0400 From: Jeffery Randall To: Cullen McCann Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] 427 "Tiger" on ebay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net It has an Alpine VIN#, but very impressive just the same On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Cullen McCann wrote: > I think most of us have seen the car before. With the extreme nature of the > car, I know its a controversial machine...but the photos of the car are > incredible. The workmanship is pretty impressive. I am going to say what > many of us have said before... I wouldn't cut up a good Tiger to do > this...but I am also not a purist and thats not a matter of convenience, I > choose not to be..... I MIGHT cut up a good Alpine to do this though.... I > have cut up good Alpines for goals much less impressive than this. > > Love it or hate it, its an incredible machine and some really detailed > photos. > > item number 121178512992 > > and link if it works: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121178512992&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1120 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jefferyrandall@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 20 00:19:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AD1E428EC for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 00:19:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m03.mx.aol.com (omr-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C3642813 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:14:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by omr-m03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 07D217003621E; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 00:14:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mld001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mld001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.122.79]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C6838E000085; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 00:14:02 -0400 (EDT) From: MWood24020@aol.com Full-name: MWood24020 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 00:14:02 -0400 (EDT) To: jefferyrandall@gmail.com, cmccann1972@gmail.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1379650442; bh=0J9TdL7duIMspGWbWB268Bf1iomjaGFjcVsKD4Ko5QI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PfCQktUqVqqJgC0EtL3Upabzkp+yfA1yCTQUqG4lyqhKyBYBSTzE8R3ja1CWwmGTB 9GsHsp1eINPvFWr8Q/+tNuWPzLZ97zRy3JECFFI6hGl6e3Nv+mtzF1B309+RaoWEgK ZNM3jML0lzzNBPp+8QQQRX3VFsNm5d29LOJP+uoo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca523bcb8a7675 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] 427 "Tiger" on ebay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Great fabrication and I guess the use of a tube frame does qualify for "frame up" ;-) But, what's with the top? Why bother even having one for a car that will never get driven in weather (or at all, for that matter)? Looks bad, up or down...better to have just fabricated an aluminum "tonneau" cover behind the seats. In a message dated 9/19/2013 9:10:00 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jefferyrandall@gmail.com writes: It has an Alpine VIN#, but very impressive just the same On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Cullen McCann wrote: > I think most of us have seen the car before. With the extreme nature of the > car, I know its a controversial machine...but the photos of the car are > incredible. The workmanship is pretty impressive. I am going to say what > many of us have said before... I wouldn't cut up a good Tiger to do > this...but I am also not a purist and thats not a matter of convenience, I > choose not to be..... I MIGHT cut up a good Alpine to do this though.... I > have cut up good Alpines for goals much less impressive than this. > > Love it or hate it, its an incredible machine and some really detailed > photos. > > item number 121178512992 > > and link if it works: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121178512992&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1120 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jefferyrandall@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mwood24020@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 20 00:21:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216C5429EB for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 00:21:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f51.google.com (mail-pa0-f51.google.com [209.85.220.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715FD42849 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 22:23:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id lf1so233718pab.24 for ; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 21:22:49 -0700 (PDT) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=gGkILphxCqj6k8GTWpyztxYj8fgovF/jVSMgdY2kcC4=; b=FOd6dOsYXaoqox9Y/ZJRmmTA/6D/bYCGk5AeZjjdbLT5y5mCWd0+ZJ+ITKMKP+2jb/ uacnBO4RIV4XkSjec0I+LsYxBjvTSsedJdtVaiGA0/9pnjidi/gARu9ZXbf2gnmsfeKf 8cWZkRX5RUmtMdXL0KLcjf7G0Qiu+laxhWWZ8emD8CfJaWc9pbxtx/jo9TbNSfROF7gA lK7n1FpMvLHGg8QAKGZGYFWL7k5jf/Xn35GcwZaiVLgfvz48kE1vdAefZby4IgeZSukP ZYaOFT3HGY9mTpWLti2ZlLvF8t50XjR1Xy3aSoP3HlJy4bTVyS3tEuGcILELiqNvLKzc gxvg== xg2mr5714357pbc.13.1379650969699; Thu, 19 Sep 2013 21:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([76.91.103.207]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id nj9sm12889845pbc.13.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 19 Sep 2013 21:22:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay Laifman Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 21:22:44 -0700 References: To: Jeffery Randall Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] 427 "Tiger" on ebay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wow. Well, I won't deny that I'd like to drive it. But, I note he says "With enough traction, the 427 stroker might be able to reverse the rotation of the earth " I'm not sure the earth would be the first thing to be reversing rotation with that engine in that wheelbase! And as much as I do really admire the work, and more so than other Algers that have gone too far in the liberties of modifying the body, I really don't like the angle on the steering wheel. I'm also terribly bothered by their inability to put the top down for their fancy photo shoot. Here is a link to their inventory of other cars: http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/sales/inventory/active#!/?utf8=b&page=3&se arch%5Byear_text_range%5D=1923+-+2013¤cy=USD On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Jeffery Randall wrote: > It has an Alpine VIN#, but very impressive just the same > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Cullen McCann wrote: > >> I think most of us have seen the car before. With the extreme nature of the >> car, I know its a controversial machine...but the photos of the car are >> incredible. The workmanship is pretty impressive. I am going to say what >> many of us have said before... I wouldn't cut up a good Tiger to do >> this...but I am also not a purist and thats not a matter of convenience, I >> choose not to be..... I MIGHT cut up a good Alpine to do this though.... I >> have cut up good Alpines for goals much less impressive than this. >> >> Love it or hate it, its an incredible machine and some really detailed >> photos. >> >> item number 121178512992 >> >> and link if it works: >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121178512992&ss PageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1120 >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jefferyrandall@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 20 01:14:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CAC4429C5 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 01:14:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (fed1rmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE0742796 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 00:15:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo110 ([68.230.241.159]) by fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130920061458.FVAD3849.fed1rmfepo201.cox.net@fed1rmimpo110> for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 02:14:58 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([68.8.225.206]) by fed1rmimpo110 with cox id TJEy1m00A4TomAC01JEyT8; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 02:14:58 -0400 a=CAReEPIVuobwYxub9OHtpw==:17 a=Dl52GskSTHcA:10 a=pXLeDmdnBcgA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=KRKsy-J-zb8A:10 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=KtPn3T5Q6VfTYIA0apUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=CAReEPIVuobwYxub9OHtpw==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=sosnaenergyconsulting@cox.net Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 23:14:59 -0700 From: David Sosna User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130804 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: tigers@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Tigers] 427 "Tiger" on ebay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net It's late, so I'm probably not thinking clearly, but: With all the modifications including tubular lower control arms, did they leave the stock steering rack location?! Best Regards David Sosna Tigerless in San Diego On 09/19/2013 12:30 PM, Cullen McCann wrote: > I think most of us have seen the car before. With the extreme nature of the > car, I know its a controversial machine...but the photos of the car are > incredible. The workmanship is pretty impressive. I am going to say what > many of us have said before... I wouldn't cut up a good Tiger to do > this...but I am also not a purist and thats not a matter of convenience, I > choose not to be..... I MIGHT cut up a good Alpine to do this though.... I > have cut up good Alpines for goals much less impressive than this. > > Love it or hate it, its an incredible machine and some really detailed > photos. > > item number 121178512992 > > and link if it works: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121178512992&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1120 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sosnaenergyconsulting@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 20 06:55:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B80774298E for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 06:55:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f181.google.com (mail-ie0-f181.google.com [209.85.223.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBDA0427E6 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 05:44:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f181.google.com with SMTP id tp5so536060ieb.12 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 04:43:27 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=CKYJ2ny7TlgBgRMbMe5pGp6SD5cqEGNAKJ3fEyP7uDw=; b=JOZyVXr/35oEjJ31DzZokd1b+mSuIkBeEj3EeqgAkPBcM20cfpvtwN3nkvd58BzDMs fxPBAHFdGAgrDsUcg4dtykRxuW3DOxdCqknje5Le1YQ3jAyD6IA/vDIHFE619BPQLTin JmQWNf+W0SDsCO2+dVK5tIpwyEE7txOB8/PgFaciTU6VT1lIDwgG49BlRPlxX+yxBhRg rmbz//EPCIH5AM7kyMjIf/nBJ4lkAL+Sd7OhXgnnAWq3u1i4kl4JxKKANo+qrhWYtjl+ m3lt3kTgkuvMZOt8ak5WhilJrEaj7+nuwfDegrNZXaa4vve0L/oIIGMzkb8eFxiqpuGv I34Q== c1mr2160123igg.23.1379677407638; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 04:43:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.239.36.5] (mobile-166-137-145-098.mycingular.net. [166.137.145.98]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ka5sm2410542igb.2.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 20 Sep 2013 04:43:26 -0700 (PDT) References: <1379676155.66227.YahooMailNeo@web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Cullen1972 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 06:43:15 -0500 To: Gary L Moore Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] 427 "Tiger" on ebay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I agree Gary. I paid 1500 bucks for my tiger... I might go with a 289 or 302... By that's only because I didn't get the original motor with my car ... If I still had the 260, that's what would be in it. When I bought my car, being a streetrodder, I had plans for an IRS, mini tub, all sorts of stuff...then after several years if investing research and developing a new appreciation for the car, I've decided there's no way I could cut it. Kinda ironic... If I had started working on it when I got it... It would be all sorts of cut up on the original body tub. Now it will turn out to be stock looking.... Funny now people change sometimes. Cullen Tac 840 Sent from my iPhone. On Sep 20, 2013, at 6:22 AM, Gary L Moore wrote: > If it sells for 30K, I wonder how much he lost? I paid 5K for mine and it has appreciated. He had the fun of building it. I just drive my 260. gary, b9472283. > > > From: Cullen McCann > To: "tigers@autox.team.net" > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 3:30 PM > Subject: [Tigers] 427 "Tiger" on ebay > > I think most of us have seen the car before. With the extreme nature of the > car, I know its a controversial machine...but the photos of the car are > incredible. The workmanship is pretty impressive. I am going to say what > many of us have said before... I wouldn't cut up a good Tiger to do > this...but I am also not a purist and thats not a matter of convenience, I > choose not to be..... I MIGHT cut up a good Alpine to do this though.... I > have cut up good Alpines for goals much less impressive than this. > > Love it or hate it, its an incredible machine and some really detailed > photos. > > item number 121178512992 > > and link if it works: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121178512992&ss PageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1120 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/arado7@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 20 06:58:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD8942B85 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 06:58:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa07-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.234]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97182427F6 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 05:45:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([216.222.140.182]) by p3plsmtpa07-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id TPky1m00P3wK5wg01PkzyG; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 04:45:00 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 07:44:52 -0400 From: Chris Thompson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: Jay Laifman References: Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] 427 "Tiger" on ebay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Their "buy it now" price on their web page is $90,000..... On 9/20/2013 12:22 AM, Jay Laifman wrote: > Wow. Well, I won't deny that I'd like to drive it. But, I note he says "With > enough traction, the 427 stroker might be able to reverse the rotation of the > earth " I'm not sure the earth would be the first thing to be reversing > rotation with that engine in that wheelbase! And as much as I do really > admire the work, and more so than other Algers that have gone too far in the > liberties of modifying the body, I really don't like the angle on the steering > wheel. > > I'm also terribly bothered by their inability to put the top down for their > fancy photo shoot. > > Here is a link to their inventory of other cars: > http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/sales/inventory/active#!/?utf8=b&page=3&se > arch%5Byear_text_range%5D=1923+-+2013¤cy=USD > > > > On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Jeffery Randall wrote: > >> It has an Alpine VIN#, but very impressive just the same >> >> >> On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Cullen McCann > wrote: >>> I think most of us have seen the car before. With the extreme nature of > the >>> car, I know its a controversial machine...but the photos of the car are >>> incredible. The workmanship is pretty impressive. I am going to say what >>> many of us have said before... I wouldn't cut up a good Tiger to do >>> this...but I am also not a purist and thats not a matter of convenience, I >>> choose not to be..... I MIGHT cut up a good Alpine to do this though.... I >>> have cut up good Alpines for goals much less impressive than this. >>> >>> Love it or hate it, its an incredible machine and some really detailed >>> photos. >>> >>> item number 121178512992 >>> >>> and link if it works: _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 20 14:20:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A22BE4009A for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 14:20:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from col0-omc1-s10.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc1-s10.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.20]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CF34429E7 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 12:43:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL129-DS10 ([65.55.34.7]) by col0-omc1-s10.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 20 Sep 2013 11:42:37 -0700 From: "Curt Bowland" To: "tigers" Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 13:42:35 -0500 Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 13:42:35 -0500 FILETIME=[2D9B2C80:01CEB631] Subject: [Tigers] Tiger SCCA results Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Just finished watching Tom Patton's run in GT2 at the SCCA National Championship Runoffs. The track was pretty dry after earlier rain. Tom started 8th and finished 8th. The GT2 field was 24 cars and they shared the track with GT3 cars which made things busy about lap four. They used a split start as the track is 4 miles in length. Certainly not Tom's best finish here as technology and $$$ continue to outpace the Tiger. Still ever so nice to see a Tiger in the field. Thanks Tom. On another note, Buck Trippel's driver John Morton is running in a 1972 Datsun 240Z! This year in recognition of 50 years of SCCA Racing, past champions have been extended the opportunity to race without the need for the usual points required for entry. The races are televised on the internet and can be seen at Speedcast. John races in EP on Sunday at 1:00 PM Central time. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 20 17:07:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E19C942BF1 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 17:07:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE22442884 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 15:48:45 -0600 (MDT) a=58AQjy34UZ/GSAVUaz6wpA==:17 a=253cKie21zsA:10 a=KiVbQdkf6L0A:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=HwGqNUc8ojQA:10 a=EanUfo-EAAAA:8 a=KGEgAGcCNMkR62Y7XlUA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=3H2y70zU-IsA:10 a=MkWXxLNEI2sA:10 a=YL5qvJcOuqUA:10 a=58AQjy34UZ/GSAVUaz6wpA==:117 Received: from [72.224.119.118] ([72.224.119.118:58657] helo=[192.168.1.125]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 0A/83-21526-792CC325; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 21:48:08 +0000 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 17:48:06 -0400 From: Tod Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] 427 Tiger on eBay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net This car was in the Mecum auction in January at Kissimee, Fl. High bid was $55,000 and it did not sell. More info and pics at: http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail.cfm?LOT_ID=FL0112-121235 if it works. The real question is "Why?" Tod B382002384LRXFE TAC#864 Original 260 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 20 19:01:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17BB442A39 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 19:01:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA85428A9 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 17:05:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from homef2683adebd ([unknown] [173.78.236.254]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MTG00GA75GHE5B5@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 18:05:09 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scattt" To: "Cullen1972" , "Gary L Moore" References: <1379676155.66227.YahooMailNeo@web182206.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4AFB73C6-4D55-4F21-B566-0F60D984BCEB@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 19:05:06 -0400 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] 427 "Tiger" on ebay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net This car sold at Mechum Kissimmee last year for the mid 50K. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cullen1972" To: "Gary L Moore" Cc: Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 7:43 AM Subject: Re: [Tigers] 427 "Tiger" on ebay >I agree Gary. I paid 1500 bucks for my tiger... I might go with a 289 or > 302... By that's only because I didn't get the original motor with my car > ... > If I still had the 260, that's what would be in it. When I bought my car, > being a streetrodder, I had plans for an IRS, mini tub, all sorts of > stuff...then after several years if investing research and developing a > new > appreciation for the car, I've decided there's no way I could cut it. > Kinda > ironic... If I had started working on it when I got it... It would be all > sorts of cut up on the original body tub. Now it will turn out to be stock > looking.... Funny now people change sometimes. > > Cullen > Tac 840 > > Sent from my iPhone. > > On Sep 20, 2013, at 6:22 AM, Gary L Moore wrote: > >> If it sells for 30K, I wonder how much he lost? I paid 5K for mine >> and > it has appreciated. He had the fun of building it. I just drive my 260. > gary, b9472283. >> >> >> From: Cullen McCann >> To: "tigers@autox.team.net" >> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 3:30 PM >> Subject: [Tigers] 427 "Tiger" on ebay >> >> I think most of us have seen the car before. With the extreme nature of >> the >> car, I know its a controversial machine...but the photos of the car are >> incredible. The workmanship is pretty impressive. I am going to say what >> many of us have said before... I wouldn't cut up a good Tiger to do >> this...but I am also not a purist and thats not a matter of convenience, >> I >> choose not to be..... I MIGHT cut up a good Alpine to do this though.... >> I >> have cut up good Alpines for goals much less impressive than this. >> >> Love it or hate it, its an incredible machine and some really detailed >> photos. >> >> item number 121178512992 >> >> and link if it works: >> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121178512992&ss > PageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1120 >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/arado7@sbcglobal.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/scattt@verizon.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 20 20:08:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C195F42A1F for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 20:08:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6684003A for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 17:31:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([216.222.140.182]) by p3plsmtpa09-08.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id TbX41m00M3wK5wg01bX5eG; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:31:06 -0700 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 19:30:56 -0400 From: Chris Thompson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: Tod Brown References: <523CC296.5010601@roadrunner.com> Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] 427 Tiger on eBay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net My Tiger is as close to 100% stock as I can keep it, but always have pangs knowing what it could be. But if you're going to modify a car *that* much, starting with an Alpine is a much better idea in my book. A 427 in an LBC? Stellar idea. I feel for the guy who probably paid a gazillion bucks for this to be fabricated, but it's not at all uncommon not to get back what you put into it and $90,000 is way too much.... On 9/20/2013 5:48 PM, Tod Brown wrote: > This car was in the Mecum auction in January at Kissimee, Fl. High bid > was $55,000 and it did not sell. > > More info and pics at: > http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_detail.cfm?LOT_ID=FL0112-121235 if > it works. > > The real question is "Why?" > > Tod > B382002384LRXFE > TAC#864 > Original 260 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 20 23:25:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12B5642C68 for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 23:25:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0076E42ADE for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 22:25:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372E2A101D for ; Fri, 20 Sep 2013 22:25:06 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 22:25:05 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 SeaMonkey/2.19 To: Tiger List Subject: [Tigers] Team.Net head's Up Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The last few days you may have noticed that it might take 2, 3, 4 or more hours for a simple message to one of the Team.Net lists to get posted. There have been some serious network problems happening. I'm hoping that will change soon. On tuesday, Sep. 24th, a local Comcast contractor will be installing broadband cable. After 20+ years of DSL based networking, I'm going to give cable a try. There will be a few days of testing, setting up, getting the hang of it and such, but I hope to have Team.Net running on a network that should be 5 - 10 times faster than the current DSL service. There will be periods of downtime during the switch, the IP addresses involved will be changing and it takes time for these changes to propagate around the world. I'll provide more immediate notice of service interruptions as they come up, try not to leave all you loyal subscribers hanging for too long. It should be a change for the better, we shall see. mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 21 09:25:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9D342A49 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 09:25:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f43.google.com (mail-qa0-f43.google.com [209.85.216.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14C0542796 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 05:10:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id k15so349483qaq.16 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 04:09:38 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tG+GdK3CDakAFFwHLAjZCvKW4G9DDjrBDGG6XO4FuiA=; b=ZmR+n1XBYRj4mb4cayKVz32d/YxQTf0l2Fh605zZMAH1XOlvLMHrMp3HJRIpxc/fe7 D48n1Opy3/Yi5kAK4LNPeciqVbqSNgma6k+2ie+3VjeG1EEMCvkWRUkuA8SbXB3+8jhv Mzudpqk/iP+dfqNoDABtryMKSf+PdDPyKfwWY= d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tG+GdK3CDakAFFwHLAjZCvKW4G9DDjrBDGG6XO4FuiA=; b=Essp5sIq4jl49gds4N0teip8KIIehN9Op09tBxuq3j9amDzo2VEGrFL8yJy9mIeBcR mj110ZKUijNtQ76shfg+lrZycYOpU90zGCnMInuCRf0SK1/4NGTvyUJVVQZS1Owv4V2j 0IbKTK3dAMHNYJnnlUNkDLCL+WqrWiexxwmZLcgveoa+cg5aiElxtLYzbMQGsaL82zLb GZHcZWo17JFH6WYnxnHJGNMEvOSL+9p+PnwWErR0xaMEclKv8TPesvh7bEFdb0n2K09i TGF6FjOVyZDIv+HdQwRFK1iYRsi97Ufla0xiBGbAJZKaLaHt00VXakOHzmVDChwYpwbK DU0w== Sat, 21 Sep 2013 04:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DavePC (DRMONS0540W-156034170254.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.ns.bellaliant.net. [156.34.170.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a2sm25598043qek.7.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 21 Sep 2013 04:09:37 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dave Munroe" To: "Mark J Bradakis" , "Tiger List" References: <523D1FA1.40807@bradakis.com> Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 08:09:36 -0300 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Team.Net head's Up Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mark; Does this by any chance mean that Listers can use HTML? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" To: "Tiger List" Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:25 AM Subject: [Tigers] Team.Net head's Up > The last few days you may have noticed that it might take 2, 3, 4 or > more hours for a simple > message to one of the Team.Net lists to get posted. There have been > some serious network > problems happening. > > I'm hoping that will change soon. On tuesday, Sep. 24th, a local > Comcast contractor will be > installing broadband cable. After 20+ years of DSL based networking, > I'm going to give cable > a try. There will be a few days of testing, setting up, getting the > hang of it and such, but I > hope to have Team.Net running on a network that should be 5 - 10 times > faster than the current > DSL service. > > There will be periods of downtime during the switch, the IP addresses > involved will be changing > and it takes time for these changes to propagate around the world. I'll > provide more immediate > notice of service interruptions as they come up, try not to leave all > you loyal subscribers hanging > for too long. > > It should be a change for the better, we shall see. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/dave@munroe.ca _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 21 11:59:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B18D342E29 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 11:59:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB4642765 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 07:57:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.201]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id DA7FB700000BA; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 09:56:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-msc004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.205]) by mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 992A1E000085; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 09:56:43 -0400 (EDT) References: To: jay.laifman@gmail.com, jefferyrandall@gmail.com Received: from 184.151.61.225 by Webmail-m106.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.160) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 21 Sep 2013 09:56:43 -0400 From: phastphill@aol.com Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 09:56:43 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1379771803; bh=LmEqYuvr07ema1PYdna1lto5MZf7JIBq8O/+lptiqpc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TG8LahOnN8Gr+32dQMIo21bw/6uTbkR9nHpLpecijcaXlZ2aJMTTWv0kqvTiwql7U YrGc3zMxOxgTiy1txpkZ0d0WW52IoQuhf+7yl/hJRnfhZTes0fy+zYIl0Ye4qhGD6d KBThehG4FWjnp8QeODYK7OQFoLd+ogPTKkre3rL8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c9523da59b0d52 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] 427 "Tiger" on ebay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net RK motors is owned buy Mike Walltrips partner inMW motor sports, maybe they need to sell to pay fines...lol ---- Original Message ---- From: Jay Laifman To: Jeffery Randall Cc: tigers Sent: Fri, Sep 20, 2013 2:20 am Subject: Re: [Tigers] 427 "Tiger" on ebay Wow. Well, I won't deny that I'd like to drive it. But, I note he says "With enough traction, the 427 stroker might be able to reverse the rotation of the earth " I'm not sure the earth would be the first thing to be reversing rotation with that engine in that wheelbase! And as much as I do really admire the work, and more so than other Algers that have gone too far in the liberties of modifying the body, I really don't like the angle on the steering wheel. I'm also terribly bothered by their inability to put the top down for their fancy photo shoot. Here is a link to their inventory of other cars: http://www.rkmotorscharlotte.com/sales/inventory/active#!/?utf8=b&page=3&se arch%5Byear_text_range%5D=1923+-+2013¤cy=USD On Sep 19, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Jeffery Randall wrote: > It has an Alpine VIN#, but very impressive just the same > > > On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Cullen McCann wrote: > >> I think most of us have seen the car before. With the extreme nature of the >> car, I know its a controversial machine...but the photos of the car are >> incredible. The workmanship is pretty impressive. I am going to say what >> many of us have said before... I wouldn't cut up a good Tiger to do >> this...but I am also not a purist and thats not a matter of convenience, I >> choose not to be..... I MIGHT cut up a good Alpine to do this though.... I >> have cut up good Alpines for goals much less impressive than this. >> >> Love it or hate it, its an incredible machine and some really detailed >> photos. >> >> item number 121178512992 >> >> and link if it works: >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=121178512992&ss PageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1120 >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jefferyrandall@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/phastphill@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 21 15:43:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BF142BE9 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 15:43:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from wavecable.net (mail3.wavecable.net [76.14.0.250]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E7AF42E37 for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 13:54:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [76.14.96.71] (HELO starstream.net) by wavecable.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP id 722128245; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 12:55:36 -0700 Received: from STARMAIL [76.14.96.71] by starstream.net (SMTPD-12.2.0.235) id c9a3000d8155d7fe; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 13:04:35 -0700 From: "DERRICK SCHMIDT" To: "Mark J Bradakis" , "Tiger List" Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 13:04:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Team.Net head's Up Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thank you so very much for all the work you do that allows us to keep arguing about whether an original or personalized car is better and what constitutes proper rivets! Not to mention helping us keep our cars on the road. I think we all greatly appreciate it! Derrick ---- Original Message ---- From: "Mark J Bradakis" Sent: 9/20/2013 10:33:27 PM To: "Tiger List" Subject: [Tigers] Team.Net head's Up There will be a few days of testing, setting up, getting the hang of it and such, but I hope to have Team.Net running on a network that should be 5 - 10 times faster than the current DSL service. It should be a change for the better, we shall see. mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 21 21:04:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A35D942D9A for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 21:04:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cmta14.telus.net (cmta14.telus.net [209.171.16.87]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E27AF427AA for ; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 20:56:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.75] ([209.89.36.167]) by cmta14.telus.net with TELUS id U2wS1m00F3cNJ9M012wSB2; Sat, 21 Sep 2013 20:56:27 -0600 a=GqxcHtfpyleJzmv+/P79aQ==:17 a=UIdm24C_LI4A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Qm2X8ul6AAAA:8 a=HwGqNUc8ojQA:10 a=s-aBHVMMAAAA:8 a=E7rjiYpfC63L7o7erFcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=xq2FGdaO9mgA:10 a=1PCN-P-bN-wA:10 a=ggVlhL6hZngA:10 a=GqxcHtfpyleJzmv+/P79aQ==:117 From: Pointers Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 20:56:27 -0600 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] 427 "Tiger" on ebay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I still had this bookmarked from Jan. Suggests it sold for $41K at Mecum in Jan. That would make the Buy It Now a pretty good flip if someone were to bite on that: _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 22 07:53:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C4B43035 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 07:53:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC20942782 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 07:49:35 -0600 (MDT) a=58AQjy34UZ/GSAVUaz6wpA==:17 a=253cKie21zsA:10 a=KiVbQdkf6L0A:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=swCp0ntFRkYA:10 a=Rv-TC1UuO0ORCO6yIDMA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=uqKceKmHzGwA:10 a=k6rDJajyjgcA:10 a=58AQjy34UZ/GSAVUaz6wpA==:117 Received: from [72.224.119.118] ([72.224.119.118:53841] helo=[192.168.1.125]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id BA/F2-02184-055FE325; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 13:49:04 +0000 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 09:49:02 -0400 From: Tod Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Gotta Have It! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net eBay Item No. 261291945021. The lads at Jensen must have forgotten mine. Tod B382002384LRXFE TAC864 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 22 08:24:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0050642EEB for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 08:24:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qe0-f51.google.com (mail-qe0-f51.google.com [209.85.128.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B7A4276B for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 08:11:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qe0-f51.google.com with SMTP id ne12so1428275qeb.24 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 07:11:13 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=l+kxAX4YAmaCgWxHhWhAfdGbJRQNASuV5p7KatO03qM=; b=hSpudMjSqfgycpm/l8m/IYhihCh9ahppgPJ6qM5Sw1PyWwOMjzW/GvIJxIU5JI7RCh c5kjvdJZ8oN7eCNIbf2Ad1hPM6Q4PCOb3uBpjmulSWiGG4TP/PZ4Gpe/ndlK/NSViao0 QGK13ilY770QHv++jGxnJxdJj015Z6UmB7Rzg= d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=l+kxAX4YAmaCgWxHhWhAfdGbJRQNASuV5p7KatO03qM=; b=BJ9v3aY6KRH6GxJjtKeeQcTrKZR7kqu/Nag5r0oGfBgQQPBFLsRbE9K7hcmLuw1OdJ LH2ViPAIfd28ERmKL6JS+EcX1DaQ1PYXddNnf63rfap2qRcKzVR/s3hzxKlNahPNr0ed IWyf3DVZaTiHUb3SsmncPkRD/d6Oc6U9ypDsp5nWtvYqwBKnaDYtanycgo1IVmxwygRj Jcvsxq60zGFQ0nmYg3c2tRL5VHTBFWT9Yk/0daH2v2g0RCMbvPGHog1MpDLvjvonVhId SQEAgTh3TXvRZahruO11q3IKJHUmiJbmM5DBEKIcX+pDRnDiuhyUv9NIsVBOB9OZ+Frb eEaQ== v6mr1018148qad.121.1379859073486; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 07:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DavePC (DRMONS0540W-156034170254.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.ns.bellaliant.net. [156.34.170.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id l2sm33938030qad.10.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 22 Sep 2013 07:11:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dave Munroe" To: "Tod Brown" , References: <523EF54E.8030006@roadrunner.com> Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 11:11:12 -0300 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Gotta Have It! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net 'Ya know Tod; I often wondered why there was no "underbonnet" insulation on Tigers. At least, I have never seen any. I just figured there was not enough room! Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tod Brown" To: Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 10:49 AM Subject: [Tigers] Gotta Have It! > eBay Item No. 261291945021. The lads at Jensen must have forgotten mine. > > Tod > B382002384LRXFE > TAC864 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/dave@munroe.ca _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 22 08:25:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970E242D44 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 08:25:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f171.google.com (mail-ie0-f171.google.com [209.85.223.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3793A4276B for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 08:13:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id at1so4672566iec.30 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 07:12:58 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=XWeJLXMGe3t3RJ9Efv2+LCuN6CQvEGsjDAhRT3Ts8d0=; b=k4ix1K1Z31DYLiLOMMEQq/ZAO/S7Q0NmXvFFC0cwY08u/a9jmfg53zViwbJ0I8qo0h 9RM49IVcVinze2WwAO2kRGLd1m/YQa3rYt7xAu4DadBpSCMyf0QoViBIzgdr5lJBI00j rA1Gjy4baxYecqWf71w8+ja/HVbH9uOtvFMHO+Y8GWZqtahsG4DcPNYVJapM1cQ+tj7U NSnZo1EEpmsmRwjYcNqg4hRw/hV9dYLIxlOeYoOu4cKHVyOFh2CgKV5gA/FYhRZhn/lg K0jsoHpC70gYlFDH4iponiShCZsFtSEI/sKNobY8h2AZgqLnYYV85YSE/P2JnSt0wprA pFwA== ky6mr8925844igb.58.1379859178023; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 07:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.92.149.103] (mobile-166-137-147-088.mycingular.net. [166.137.147.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id y10sm13328276igl.4.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 22 Sep 2013 07:12:57 -0700 (PDT) References: <523EF54E.8030006@roadrunner.com> From: Cullen1972 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 09:12:51 -0500 To: Tod Brown Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Gotta Have It! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Funny you'd mention this. I just bought and sold a 66 alpine a few weeks ago... It had one of these with remnants of the insulation still in place. My two other Alpines and my Tiger didn't have them. Tiger is a 66 (001452) and the Alpines were all late 66, early 67's. only one had it. My lat hood certainly wont have one, but I'm curious... Any tigers ever have them? What was the production logic for Alpines on them? Cullen Sent from my iPhone. On Sep 22, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Tod Brown wrote: > eBay Item No. 261291945021. The lads at Jensen must have forgotten mine. > > Tod > B382002384LRXFE > TAC864 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmccann1972@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 22 09:15:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFC143090 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 09:15:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc3-s17.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s17.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25814306C for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 08:57:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY177-W31 ([65.54.190.187]) by bay0-omc3-s17.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 22 Sep 2013 07:57:06 -0700 From: David or Gary Franchi To: Cullen1972 , Tod Brown Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 07:57:06 -0700 References: <523EF54E.8030006@roadrunner.com>, <26F022D2-F9C7-41BE-835D-0447986B3ED8@gmail.com> FILETIME=[0159B960:01CEB7A4] Cc: Tiger E-mail Q&A Subject: Re: [Tigers] Gotta Have It! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I believe the hood padding was used only on GT Alpines and Herringtons (sp), don't think the Tiger GT had it. David > From: cmccann1972@gmail.com > Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 09:12:51 -0500 > To: todbrown@roadrunner.com > CC: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Gotta Have It! > > Funny you'd mention this. I just bought and sold a 66 alpine a few weeks > ago... It had one of these with remnants of the insulation still in place. My > two other Alpines and my Tiger didn't have them. Tiger is a 66 (001452) and > the Alpines were all late 66, early 67's. only one had it. My lat hood > certainly wont have one, but I'm curious... Any tigers ever have them? What > was the production logic for Alpines on them? > > Cullen > > Sent from my iPhone. > > On Sep 22, 2013, at 8:49 AM, Tod Brown wrote: > > > eBay Item No. 261291945021. The lads at Jensen must have forgotten mine. > > > > Tod > > B382002384LRXFE > > TAC864 > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmccann1972@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/wwwdg@webtv.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 22 10:17:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768CB43166 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 10:16:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF269430C4 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 09:58:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004960.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r8MFvf7i012420; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 08:58:19 -0700 Received: by sj1-dm103.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a209) id sj1-dm103.523928e8.88312; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 08:58:17 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.148.216]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 15:58:13 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Tod Brown'" , Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 11:58:09 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac63mx1RcoHFLmqiQma5ykg3hKXnOAAENPQg engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-22_01:2013-09-22,2013-09-22,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309220092 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Gotta Have It! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The Alpine Parts List - Body mountings - Bonnet 2223898 Insulation - Bonnet SIII & IV "GT" up to B9404728 9130077 Clip 2223890 Support The elimination of this may have been a cost reduction.(?) Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tod Brown Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 9:49 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Gotta Have It! eBay Item No. 261291945021. The lads at Jensen must have forgotten mine. Tod B382002384LRXFE TAC864 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 22 11:32:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D235943242 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 11:32:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yh0-f48.google.com (mail-yh0-f48.google.com [209.85.213.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A8C43149 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 11:10:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-yh0-f48.google.com with SMTP id f10so1007276yha.35 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 10:10:02 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=7kXfRlUrWMSTZQ3OZ0oalEnjjhhnWz1XkCdCg3+BqkA=; b=nvNtowwhAO6m/xiUX3IimI19FcgxBtjVgUA2s3Jx7VkgWIib+5d9VaxlBiGeO0v9gm gqOfg+/0gTsX/+waSjcweS87C2MVSvT6rRc7OwTHSuS5B6DaOWyqhNQwJ1YHR736ysYj ky+nsVFgAjJ/bLVUh6zF8HwIrkFhbw6VRVFNbKZKmhcQp8w1A8INdIH11Bxoeo7vqWJS ++goCEB9c0r454V1eSJF6KIJGYN9pCJykTIR7e/JSTr4C2OoB9S3JsOiQye9eeKdG8yz e8gzlmx+V+fQQTsW0knMtXzPX7yTFzIz8iq6XjxRqWnmRgQJ8W78F1z5woYuGQUjbwrG 8N5Q== w42mr17689367yhc.2.1379869802094; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 10:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([8.28.240.177]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g25sm31959225yhg.6.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 22 Sep 2013 10:10:01 -0700 (PDT) References: From: Cullen1972 Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 12:09:59 -0500 To: "rfraser@bluefrog.com" Cc: "" , Tod Brown Subject: Re: [Tigers] Gotta Have It! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net That's interesting. The alpine i had and just sold was a blue 66, series V.. Appeared to be the factory square corner hood/ bonnet.... But was not a gt vin. Someone must have swapped the hood on it at some point with a GT. might should have known that and tried to sell it separately. Lol. The car was a parts car anyway. Oh well... Cullen Sent from my iPhone. On Sep 22, 2013, at 10:58 AM, " Ron Fraser" wrote: > The Alpine Parts List - Body mountings - Bonnet > 2223898 Insulation - Bonnet SIII & IV "GT" up to B9404728 > 9130077 Clip > 2223890 Support > > The elimination of this may have been a cost reduction.(?) > > Ron Fraser > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Tod Brown > Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 9:49 AM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Gotta Have It! > > > eBay Item No. 261291945021. The lads at Jensen must have forgotten mine. > > Tod > B382002384LRXFE > TAC864 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmccann1972@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 22 16:09:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8868D42E86 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 16:09:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm33.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm33.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.26]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7E842E30 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 15:51:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm33.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2013 21:51:21 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.180] by nm33.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2013 21:48:21 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.171] by tm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2013 21:48:21 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.216] by tm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2013 21:48:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1025.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2013 21:48:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 50404 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Sep 2013 21:48:21 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379886501; bh=OYXqKABbQ//1S6VTLo62VszEzZpGwrJ0O865BCrTAlY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Z+7qrVZY0T437pedVDEAB/gsH2YemORlb3cewJtEw5GFtk2DUaa2BLK35zz+3IWoY3fulA5zahaXiBooa97cVo53nCiFoXeZl+RCBZ0NDfX3jq1RBDMaeJTk+YHVz7GBWA5NgNDLoWdVQKaKBM4jZ1vq00fvSw7s1E2RncSIQxE= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Cyw8Wd/wiL8g9NRDZtezGNxxLAbbawt7OUvvLqcguTaZmaHUCB6qCbSXKT95+QFKMGJmklxXba5YR8KBLPWWUi2Y2BaSlrW2bgCLJDd9aCp+uQSkpczaN/lOBzfx24AMmqVV+f8D5QCTQJkejNkqyjWkS7+Qwh4Z9xwjDriYcSE=; m3TDYzXOhqZ1WLH9NE06y8ygfaB9z3gbyeeneju4lbaSNMIzAZA47G97jAVM cxxgfOULDIZiOuuXlblYabL9IV1FKSZIks9abeQUtBPSMS3qXzPzwq5T_zG2 TqNQxaYdBUm9VUvOG1_gXecijiGkxSIhotiRDxDbMPCMlc2cpS4oa7dKnxEk 54Pdt_KDabNczl5qdOaP9xZlVgV16zJ7L35LTNEN6thnUq8pyWDQq247KFol qhABj8CtHZaoytfiDn7rI9GyTJRXK_E.Zi5Tq4bSmNWEm17Gvmyxsw0hqLwO Fd7K6hRG1V118d1FFPRnjlbNDIYOnMVm3At6lX438ORkjN12I8.FZJUm9fe2 PhNh79PAXKn8b0OTBxELojBVSNP0pN4BEHx1o1TvFlFVqkBYDBiLRN1gWU6o DFM4wsH__NHZS4.IQk5nmOjt9Df_9cOWV29KNzGTGg.hZLbQeeDqUh8LxdSo 3vHrEdabaEga1GlkAWKp.Sf2c5UKm.g-- Received: from [173.48.171.26] by web161005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 14:48:20 PDT SSdtIG5vdCBob21lIHlldCwgYnV0IGZyb20gd2hhdCBJIHVuZGVyc3RhbmQgYWJvdXQgd2hhdCBSb290ZXMgd2FzIGRvaW5nIGZvciB0aGUgQWxwaW5lIEdUIHZlcnN1cyB0aGUgU3BvcnRzIFRvdXJlciBmb3IgU2VyaWVzIElJSSBhbmQgSVYgaXMgdGhhdCB0aGV5IHdhbnRlZCB0aGUgR1QncyB0byBydW4gcXVpZXRlciB0aGFuIHRoZSBTcG9ydCBUb3VyZXJzLiBUaGUgYm9ubmV0IHBhZGRpbmcgaXMgb25lIGNoYW5nZSwgYW5kIEkgYmVsaWV2ZSBJIHJlYWQgdGhhdCB0aGUgYWlyIGZpbHRlciBob3VzaW5ncyABMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 14:48:20 -0700 (PDT) From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Gotta Have It Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I'm not home yet, but from what I understand about what Rootes was doing for the Alpine GT versus the Sports Tourer for Series III and IV is that they wanted the GT's to run quieter than the Sport Tourers. The bonnet padding is one change, and I believe I read that the air filter housings for GT were different as well, which may account for IIRC lower horsepower ratings for the GT versus the Sports Tourer. I don't remember if Rootes did this for the 1725cc motor, I'm a little more certain that this applied to the 1600cc cars. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 22 16:26:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F25742F5B for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 16:26:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16C9403B1 for ; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 16:08:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2013 22:08:05 -0000 Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2013 22:05:08 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.149] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2013 22:05:08 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.195] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2013 22:05:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2013 22:05:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 34284 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Sep 2013 22:05:08 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379887508; bh=F6rP+arvcMVsWPaVj5OBrgWgs/j6HJu7jQdXky7+26g=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PlMjHk9Huibq0gAXb8JXFTl3tjLLAnbm2s+o3Kq1qN3IaNIY4uC+yCpnJbqfaSKUlWnu1+J/A4H4rMIy7AF6Y6/EJflXNbI7JqaTn2VGnhFjjz58a+la6XJZ7PJWiHAufYPSQw9F2dZrN1MpwoBSw693KG9u2aOpATzjpl1LQ5k= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NKBuyAUnlZdM9Ir6EZ2z9cETMz5NYVQfqJ4IyKXqBHqf5kiYbDFpnosFBtCw2TUwzkZQK1ROqG1Aq63036+x6rnHlmrEd9cRZOTSdRSFMX2Q4iis8NlJrwhjeIrYzIkm95UwDjUSVfKUXt+1qafF3+pMsJYZDhQyJBKeKLqVCOQ=; a5RmzpDxxIEuh4xKvuSvleJ74Ih.Ko9t2I9KzYjAGrecKMGuNBcdu.A7RxYq z_7nQDqaXhtR9MWyfNlKbIhiX11UZu8JfsG5OpMJZ.jHzry3jM8D3dIRHD1e Xn1GzTYL3ljcGLEV.0Lib2TyxpnBJXEts8Ghl9f69ZNv26Tdz4oDjQv8bQoj U0xo2QwnosmV0Gf0DKnJdF.dY6dZ.wZFGXwO8wotA0DjpwqXthrGb0XFRfn2 CYLmBqPrebxJejWoku2_41k50iRw4rU06wQabrDTYpAhuKeQzcAzCdFO0g8. oX.cPwV9dslhOhRbJg_8rAjaD1yoV_lA56LuysP4VLJ2XR8k.RsUW2ClcXdL hAtDnKAQxetammtDNMbJs3J6kNF4f3X7BYkHENr1pc4oF1QF9p8qlWBNnmdZ SaJx7psQlmZH8F8SNZM4sNIz9SxoypR2wAczfiKDHhQ5e83eFokzxHNu.M6J bcg.ShZLlE4Kcs6dRs_LFCtckCV3gLE.BUv4BJe9yN_sQXrLKb6uMKis.W8Y 61Lhk Received: from [173.48.171.26] by web161003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 22 Sep 2013 15:05:08 PDT V2hlbiBJIGJvdWdodCBCMzgyMCAjNDgsIHZlcnkgdXNlZCwgdGhlIFBPIGhhZCB0YWtlbiB0aGUgYm9ubmV0IG9mZiBhbmQgZmFzaGlvbmVkIGEgcmV2ZXJzZSBzY29vcCBhbmQgcGFpbnRlZCBpdCBpbiBwcmltZXIuIEkgbGVmdCBpdCBvZmYgdGhlIGNhciwgYW5kIGZvdW5kIGEgc3BlY2lhbCBpbnRlcmVzdCBjYXIgYm9uZXlhcmQgaW4gTGFrZXZpbGxlLCBNQSB0aGF0IGhhZCBhIGZhaXJseSBzdHJhaWdodCBibGFjayBBbHBpbmUgViB3aXRoIGJvbm5ldCwgc28gdGhhdCBvbmUgaXMgbm93IG9uIG15IFRpZ2UBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 15:05:08 -0700 (PDT) From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] A little more Gotta Have It Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net When I bought B3820 #48, very used, the PO had taken the bonnet off and fashioned a reverse scoop and painted it in primer. I left it off the car, and found a special interest car boneyard in Lakeville, MA that had a fairly straight black Alpine V with bonnet, so that one is now on my Tiger. Neither bonnet shows any signs of insulation. As to whether Rootes sound-insulated the Tiger bonnets, they seem to have provided plenty of sound, but not much insulation, if the rest of the car is any indication. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 07:00:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B7B242792 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 07:00:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from exprod5og110.obsmtp.com (exprod5og110.obsmtp.com [64.18.0.20]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1951F4042C for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 06:31:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from alpmlip14.e2k.ad.ge.com ([12.43.191.1]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5ob110.postini.com ([64.18.4.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUkA0ikO5dOmmhZezG36kdNJtqGRKaeUp@postini.com; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 05:31:08 PDT Received: from unknown (HELO CINMBHT02.e2k.ad.ge.com) ([3.159.212.195]) by alpmlip14.e2k.ad.ge.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 23 Sep 2013 08:31:05 -0400 Received: from CINMBAPD07.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.212.46) by CINMBHT02.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.212.195) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:31:04 -0400 Received: from CINMBCNA10.e2k.ad.ge.com ([169.254.4.21]) by CINMBAPD07.e2k.ad.ge.com ([169.254.9.202]) with mapi id 14.03.0146.000; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:31:04 -0400 From: "Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light)" To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] A little more Gotta Have It Thread-Index: AQHOt+LXHfZ4zhia20qtg5Bkz4zNRpnTQDjA Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 12:31:04 +0000 References: <1379887508.33677.YahooMailNeo@web161003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [3.159.212.193] Subject: Re: [Tigers] A little more Gotta Have It Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Don't know about you, but the glorious roar coming from the secondaries on the Holley 670 when that 331 winds up and you compress into the seat is music to my ears. Why would I want to muffle that?? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 08:02:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94EAF42A85 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:01:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from pm-bdc2.pmlights.com (pm-bdc2.pmlights.com [65.69.172.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87A9A4042C for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 07:32:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from WEBMAIL.pmlights.com (adsl-65-69-172-96.ded.swbell.net [65.69.172.96]) by pm-bdc2.pmlights.com with ESMTP id kdMkSHsUA4PpjkrP for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:32:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from MAIL.pmlights.com (65.69.172.35) by WEBMAIL.pmlights.com (65.69.172.96) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.218.12; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:31:01 -0500 Received: from 65.69.172.35 ([65.69.172.35]) by MAIL.pmlights.com ([65.69.172.35]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 13:30:32 +0000 From: "Armacost, Don Jr." Thread-Topic: Alpine water pump Thread-Index: Ac64YRONEapHzp9oQqeY5dMbveTcSA== Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:31:31 -0500 To: Subject: [Tigers] Alpine water pump Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I have noticed that like me, a number of Tiger owners also have Alpines. I'm in need of either a Series I water pump or a Series II fan pulley. My Alpine is a Series I with a transplanted Series II motor dressed like a Series I, hence the Series I water pump. Cannot find a replacement pump and the available Series II pump needs a Series II fan pulley. Any help appreciated. When forwarding, use "BCC" and press "Send" only AFTER you have deleted all extraneous email addresses from this email. It's the smart way to share. If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address! It's a courtesy to me and others who may not wish their email addresses sent all over the world, and helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the Recipient. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute, copy or alter this email. 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The bonnet > padding is one change, and I believe I read that the air filter housings > for GT were different as well, which may account for IIRC lower horsepower > ratings for the GT versus the Sports Tourer. I don't remember if Rootes did > this for the 1725cc motor, I'm a little more certain that this applied to > the 1600cc cars. > > Rande Bellman > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 09:04:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE44342A38 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:04:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d01.mx.aol.com (omr-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.252.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CE942832 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:38:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by omr-d01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 89A8970057A55; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:38:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mlb005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mlb005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.186.147]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5442BE000085; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:38:00 -0400 (EDT) From: CoolVT@aol.com Full-name: CoolVT Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:38:00 -0400 (EDT) To: michael.s.king@gmail.com, snakebit289@yahoo.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1379947080; bh=F5Pay6ofAFcI6Aa0evpZ7C8uzTefecnJQZ8G1EIYw7c=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dBbAReKUe0VZirrrnNPIQ6+w2JNQHskZaJJwv2aO0pShAVdfGlxNxuhbISRBzBKwV 97jyaTsauNghvZCw93ysMG23YddLr3JLw3qEL+ZE9+E+GStdsI9eGHJD4HmAEAnv3Q XbZB3byCxpEL2tg0ehkRbMR+EwUWIONyfsypuTo4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b524052480a4f Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Gotta Have It Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 9/23/2013 10:32:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, michael.s.king@gmail.com writes: GT vs ST; In the S3 the GT model was introduced in the beginning the GT had; standard hardtop I'm assuming a "standard hardtop" means the normal removable top? If so, what was the logic of having a top that could be removed and had to be left at home leaving no soft top in case of rain? Mark L _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 09:35:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CDB42E08 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:35:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f179.google.com (mail-ob0-f179.google.com [209.85.214.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4681C42830 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:09:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f179.google.com with SMTP id wn1so3446172obc.38 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:09:04 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=dodzEWI+jPc4bb5E7G2oThDMdxqc61aiUFClbJyFO8M=; b=Z5q4vIwyFDEGKcuPJt1dtWUlddrCOKNWRlMggB8QVB57YXr0QZFGdFhE5xG4dGbkI3 P7IHsoftwE/qNSg1+a2P4LBOWLUpNvNsqZvALpFuLa3561zWqtE72cWbNHx/xhNCnwiK iYdCQ4PQfoglShhDEXV/Iw+rzHUBiIV7ldqKt4akgFjKfaGQy4JnzQhOK0oCbplWicZx i0dkPWnCkplOMTrAbakWYxUWU0fV0YXNeUoS02KkwG23dHr3Irfavm31r48tEGzqlsjd bEJl3pgW+fs6aJuj2JYA7zMHkPBQqml/PwyqnLYFYEsGiafyIiHzHxh/HC/Wmu1B3+UY efaw== pm4mr642670oeb.60.1379948944693; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.34.196 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:09:04 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 01:09:04 +1000 From: michael king To: "CoolVT@aol.com" Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] Gotta Have It Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The Gt was a luxury model.. greater sound deadening.. more a closed coupe (aka Grand Tourer) but the removable hardtop gave you the option of having an open car when the weather allowed.. and a tonneau could be used to cover the car in a shower or when parked. On 24 September 2013 00:38, wrote: > ** > ** > > In a message dated 9/23/2013 10:32:18 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > michael.s.king@gmail.com writes: > > GT vs ST; > > In the S3 the GT model was introduced in the beginning the GT had; > > standard hardtop > > ** > *I'm assuming a "standard hardtop" means the normal removable top? If > so, what was the logic of having a top that could be removed and had to be > left at home leaving no soft top in case of rain?* > *Mark L* > > > > > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 10:08:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D04342F08 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:08:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.30]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 599CE42AE6 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:35:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2013 15:35:01 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.128] by nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2013 15:32:30 -0000 Received: from [98.139.215.140] by tm16.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2013 15:32:30 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.214] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2013 15:32:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2013 15:32:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 96800 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Sep 2013 15:32:30 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379950350; bh=7D6B7juwTUKO4sl37WeLGximdrHu9c5AQCOw7iKaFFs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qTvKDY8Ir/PeAmQf5yKdkQhvAzRQvrDW5KqcKuhiQgspRY0XidTEeJEs0z8eJiiHsprr3GKsCKecLTUofyZGq8br9dLy2uy18yB/+glaOU6ust1jY1VX9YGL1+kcDCrTLKEo7MY9/HwUoyk8iEgIolzTuqbX8uZPQScM6SCM1pI= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=js/Mpbkn+z1axwquzIfBXRZDZGX9oKycBmzWa4bYPyt/De5FzjM467+g9Dc/+LmKCFdq/EhdsDJ4CdJfRuB8yFYRAAq0/7TgGvIdY+W05VChU09te/7dG+9Lg747+ZOTQaV2HYTNXyoc1KqxNnpWVIhfcJYX2uc16QFBGXv6Ris=; I.ssb3yPa.5KjRa97gO.mpF8mk3ea.JZHOkdTxJjRA1ugvHwwsCH8blZs04X w6Uj8uSDJrvQpVNpXJMvp5M7k9TzgRESvBKj.URj7WRSOLSeGwDeAXKnGwAs p.z_4y7x8wc_5f2FuUXxEbwCC9AY7FjfftR2CWENNnRZUyAoCrcEi6spfx9G qSDywlqYfolr18uSPk.hFAjZU7LMWhp6.7OQv03HQ0snM_GsaTw2t0zR__xy wSPiSZEaou.ebzdBUxpWVjsU7pxJz1rbTmWByHvmkus4wuW38VuEn7mZ80Ra vOqF56x961Z6_W8uwq.1U_WeUFUqO9u1ILfBiDZNSnzPfh0PcEtPsZd15zRP j9PfQYEqX9IBrF_W4npptIyM7A0j3SePw.sSb_7LJU15FdUY0jzqR00cQFs0 2pZVFiQAx9M1Ggem13_TM.c7_z3KGAALa9znXtNoQXG71eLYWNb7ox2Elxh3 A2Uva9sKDzhXnFMsxscITjsjAu0NSsjpBOx9EhHGKuFMjYuOeKSBMsVa0iWG 9qurS Received: from [173.48.171.26] by web161006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:32:30 PDT Rmlyc3QsIHRoYW5rIHlvdSwgTWljaGFlbCwgZm9yIHRoZSBsaXN0IG9mIEdUIGRpZmZlcmVuY2VzLgoKVG8gYW5zd2VyIG9uZSBvZiBNYXJrJ3MgcXVlc3Rpb25zLCBpZiB0aGUgc3RhdGVtZW50IGhhZCBqdXN0IHJlYWQgJ2hhcmR0b3AgaXMgc3RhbmRhcmQnLCBpdCBtaWdodCBoYXZlIGJlZW4gYSBsaXR0bGUgbW9yZSBjbGVhcmVyLiBBbHNvLCBwb3NzaWJseSBsb3N0IGluIHRoZSBmYWN0IHRoYXQgdGhlIEdUIGxhY2tzIHRoZSBzb2Z0IHRvcCBhbmQgZnJhbWUgaXMgdGhlIGZhY3QgdGhhdCB0aGUgcmVhciABMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 08:32:30 -0700 (PDT) From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Gotta Have It Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net First, thank you, Michael, for the list of GT differences. To answer one of Mark's questions, if the statement had just read 'hardtop is standard', it might have been a little more clearer. Also, possibly lost in the fact that the GT lacks the soft top and frame is the fact that the rear seat backrest(if you can call that a rear seat) is pushed back a little further, so there's a scosh more room back there and it's finished a little nicer without the three-piece panels that would otherwise hide the soft top. I did check through my collection of Alpine III and IV sales folders to look for horsepower ratings for each model. For the Series III, Rootes claimed 86hp for the Sports Tourer (ST) and 82.5hp for the GT. I have four different Series IV sales folders, and they all stick with 90hp gross for both models. Someone with more Alpine mechanical experience will need to answer how the horsepower was improved for both models of the Series IV. It might be related to the fact that with the tops off or down(depending on the model), the noise level concern would be a mute point, so why suck horsepower just to quiet the motor? Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 10:38:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9971E42F04 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:38:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A294293B for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:21:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id hf12so2265795vcb.41 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:20:30 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=b8/citsD+tFsh07kyJyHhFkprhOdL9S/kzkC9y7aKvc=; b=dK6rpreTawUF7+dpYM1N0xJG9El40RtfMq26OiHNfv4YsHsMBDo6neATn2yPGaNUlY S0GRTwjdnaDOTWexilRPfQ6uRsOJ05GwyMLfyAxr3OnXiI/5bBAHHAMcaW/tbfUj080s AfA3kXmE9WsMWVaOF2hil/pXuk8BAbafgnIVnO+B54bUpOAvb/o26A1QpHWyMtpvKtn6 y2/NtNmXIeaHohTrHRl5isOeR/bBni8L7iTcb2CxY+X8gC1jd74Jo37uWqbcX77iX3oK a0pJm9ZZ5Kl1S1U5zqrt3gND9BPuYxxL7SK8quiHThglXn6OMi1in0OOl54CoDoYScsJ cT7g== Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:20:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.77.10 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:20:29 -0700 (PDT) References: <1379886500.32708.YahooMailNeo@web161005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:20:29 -0700 From: Jay Laifman To: michael king Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Gotta Have It Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Couple things about the items below. The pleated door trim and door top rolls, those are the bigger tops that came on the later Tigers, that needed different quarter windows. The doors themselves had little metal brackets or stands welded on to snap the door panels in because the panels went over the metal edges of the door as seen on the non-GT doors. Those door panels also had flat metal edging all the way around - covered by the vinyl. Sadly, my Alpine came with a very nice set of metal, as most are rusted away. I sent them to Martha, who lost mine. So, I redid my doors as STs. I like the body paint color there anyway. I was able to get replacement GT door tops, and I still have the GT quarter windows. But I never did replace those metal edges. One day, maybe. Too many other priorities. Jay On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 7:08 AM, michael king wrote: > GT vs ST; > > In the S3 the GT model was introduced in the beginning the GT had; > full carpet > wood dash > wod wheel > sun visors > interior light > pleated door trims > door top rolls > no soft top > standard hardtop > different spec twin carbs with big aircleaner (later went to single carb as > sis ST but Gt had bigger filter) > under bonnet insulation > Single cast manifold instead of separate headers > > all the interior changes carried over on SIV/V GT's..(bar hood padding) > except SV GT had a wood veneer over plastic dash VS over plywood > of S3/IV > > > On 23 September 2013 07:48, snakebit289 wrote: > > > I'm not home yet, but from what I understand about what Rootes was doing > > for the Alpine GT versus the Sports Tourer for Series III and IV is that > > they wanted the GT's to run quieter than the Sport Tourers. The bonnet > > padding is one change, and I believe I read that the air filter housings > > for GT were different as well, which may account for IIRC lower > horsepower > > ratings for the GT versus the Sports Tourer. I don't remember if Rootes > did > > this for the 1725cc motor, I'm a little more certain that this applied to > > the 1600cc cars. > > > > Rande Bellman > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards > > Michael King > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 10:53:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4993A42A8D for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:53:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm36.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm36.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.29]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE9D4294A for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 10:26:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm36.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2013 16:25:53 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.130] by nm36.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2013 16:23:05 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.151] by tm18.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2013 16:23:04 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.239] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2013 16:23:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1048.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Sep 2013 16:23:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 78434 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Sep 2013 16:23:04 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379953384; bh=SV0HAAKpBDsR4CFWhAI5XqEwQs29Z8ikqoaplc2TCik=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Yr56/BYL+do+3G5QcHrQfyqdT4qhB8W5Zkz+DMKL8bBjzIwNnu5KWRT6s35MJq2n6T5kIau5lLK6IqX7PcOQndlKaOzYI4eAZ5kgADqhUL4EKwKx5G6PvzrIQz2RkHK/YxiApfEWULspdvLAlZBUppY6T0eDqE95pDu0gDDctB0= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=l/AvKL/Eh7BUOSF8BKqarUCVvB+wZ2SSWZBzIQMIEe6HEtLf7rAxvCufVhzqT7prKn7Fpm81SE70kSgFRgqCKU4zkYJT3YLgas4bqihNGDK+OmGtfQPuKh9pkCeTSQTgwFPmgTJNCnL6TCEQcEK30kl4Lbhq2zJGGBdPOMU++2s=; 89T.BNU91Kbn2APteM18widi9ghAiMfmtqOaxTI3xT8zBwWr1GhPjtJr.uZV pD2nsBNQQEI0iCRmJno3.AtB4_Qfw0u4m8bkj0Ec7DTq4WPdWi1NUNktmkDm taC4g7k221O6K2cCqX0yDwFf_oNnJ3fmurx2U6DVVbx.xlY_S.blGlH1Db87 tZlTNIXo5BNcWax.rRCZuC5gT9OFp819KrOZIXKV7BHNS04wULY9HZH32.Q_ r0q5yntTzCnOSfyuoL1NaeNzFby.xVjSHPNNVtYUbRJscQutEiZk1fXORo_F kJc3no8QQHMonDrhSHFyVfbWaoxfcJeBLEcrv_OMsIbk6Ma1R38wyG6iLG5A GD0FikSiBJ_7r_kP9aEnzgvNpa36O7KmRfySUja_hOB1unSX5ZO0h9qOAMVw Dx.tMCI3sAlwuRw5rBDFgaSq9hEgRnBNv9F5N3ji1NysqVNDqUe91iQiCtBo 85mhYKGvD_PRB2kFvPGtfKyqWt0zF1ReUjAIR6tOOE2PwfxTahD2yKYe7X30 vd5R3jrvNasyOR80GTBBeiHX_Ujyxwsswb_MQrgw- Received: from [173.48.171.26] by web161003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:23:03 PDT UGVvcGxlLAoKTGFzdCBzdW1tZXIsIEkgdG9sZCB5b3UgdGhhdCBBbmR5IFJvb25leSdzIGZvcm1lciBUaWdlciBoYWQgYmVlbiByZXN0b3JlZCwgYW5kIHdhcyBhdCB0aGUgaW5hdWd1cmFsIEJvc3RvbiBDdXAgY29uY291cnMgaW4gZG93bnRvd24gQm9zdG9uLCBhbG9uZyB3aXRoIDk5IG90aGVyIGludml0ZWQgb3duZXJzIGFuZCB0aGVpciBjYXJzLiBUaGlzIHllYXIsIHRoZSAnb25seSBvbmNlIGV2ZXJ5IHRocmVlIHllYXJzJyBydWxlIGtpY2tlZCBpbiwgc28gdGhlIFRpZ2VyIHdhcyBrZXB0IGZyb20gYmUBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:23:03 -0700 (PDT) From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Car Show and slim Boston Cup results Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net People, Last summer, I told you that Andy Rooney's former Tiger had been restored, and was at the inaugural Boston Cup concours in downtown Boston, along with 99 other invited owners and their cars. This year, the 'only once every three years' rule kicked in, so the Tiger was kept from being on display. The show also suffered through a weather forecast that predicted showers for the first half of the show. Well,it did rain, but only in downtown until about 09:30,when the sun and cool weather prevailed, still keeping away a few of the invited. No big deal. In place of the now-Emily Rooney Tiger was a 1965 Ford GT part racecar/part street version. Since I had a summer job back here at a dealer for MB, BMW, Jaguar, Porsche and Shelby, who stocked a production Ford GT (sticker was $18,500 in 1967 greenbacks), I peppered the owner with questions for about 30 minutes. I asked the owner if he'd driven the newer Michigan-built Ford GT. He said he had, as Ford had allowed him to drive one in Michigan, as part gratitude for loaning them his car to base the modern version on!!! No Cobra at the show this year, but a silver '63 Sting Ray coupe, a '57 Rambler station wagon, a mid '70's MB 6.9 sedan, a '68 912 Targa in a green comparable to Orchid Green and houndstooth-pattern seats, the usual new McLarens and Ferarris, no E-Types but a XK150 drophead and 3.4 sedan. For those of you near enough to eastern Mass, this coming Saturday, Sept 28, is the Weston Classic and Antique Car Show ( westoncarshow.com), and Emily Rooney, her Tiger, and I will be there. Search for the town hall of Weston, MA and the show is on the road in front(Town House Rd). See you there. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 19:48:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E015B434E6 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:48:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A294D403FA for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:30:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1734C7010C404 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 21:29:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-msb003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msb003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.137]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id EB7E7E000082 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 21:29:27 -0400 (EDT) From: BEAU2EVE@aol.com Full-name: BEAU2EVE Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 21:29:27 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1379986168; bh=27CMiifqWOHgCY4d/iKpfDdJ/R6qN0r6XnP3ACOG07k=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Kvr55jXPx2LDz7EDj9RG+E2Zn0L7vhAijYUdv/sojyTazAuV8DES+Z6N/dE2JlblO 9C+wDd8qDlxpJmzx2WOpQM6F+qmLoQeMN8gYZvrHoyWLINv0EvWE6K/nR6EYK13yPw r3AB7QbCdQlIYeHHsjz/yZ/QyBN7pxNQk5cgxUwo= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c75240eaf72601 Subject: [Tigers] power windows Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Has anyone ever installed power windows in their Sunbeam? Beau _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 20:17:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2396D4350F for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:16:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f175.google.com (mail-ob0-f175.google.com [209.85.214.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF67042F1A for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:55:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f175.google.com with SMTP id uz6so4262499obc.6 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 18:54:31 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=7rnbtsgnU+HNxWXlv9w9Hnn/8WhbiiITg+XWqBFvfVI=; b=pheLO3/+8X0npARDHRyf12aGasIzjSXTaR29uA9pBpKBB1EPUcceM+wZRMrVCEc9Q9 JjmjgQCMYn13Q3FXeFHWON+Cvf1+UMectrTwrfbg3TIrWDdcc3DuG6WBBgIn3gtk5YyL U5routEFy7EemXSl5LE1THQvmTQ2iSFnoU1wkGsecGCrZAReN1MUCmnZ+jl1pESWqnlb NOX/8GyJK5XpKrKRjJ7dRycYfAMmIS6ZourQs2bEbEdqVBhnRU9N8riranggCw1jE10y y/cNKvLSalpfsDjdtHQe7XSIioB1XaBcgs3MWQCJgd6MkO3PfW1/slIR2OkKrEkBL2k6 A1Zg== ct9mr4667037oeb.42.1379987671053; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 18:54:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.34.196 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 18:54:31 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:54:31 +1000 From: michael king To: BEAU2EVE@aol.com Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] power windows Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I haven't, but have seen it done.. also if you look at the autocar article of the long term assessment of a MKII in 1966 the editor had fitted them to his own MKII, not that his switches were ver pretty. If one was doing this on a stockish looking car might i suggest the DB5-6 aston style window switches... http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/01/article-2271977-174957EA000005DC-396_634x476.jpg its the chrome one on the far right of the image.. used in other brit cars to On 24 September 2013 11:29, wrote: > Has anyone ever installed power windows in their Sunbeam? > > > Beau > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 23 20:48:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4F7342F43 for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:48:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm36.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm36.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.29]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F74429EB for ; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 20:31:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm36.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 02:31:11 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.132] by nm36.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 02:28:34 -0000 Received: from [98.139.215.140] by tm20.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 02:28:34 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.242] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 02:28:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1051.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 02:28:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 94628 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Sep 2013 02:28:34 -0000 s=s1024; t=1379989714; bh=mqhqZEvdN95jO8+1kbmrUiHVz5AVIBiRSxf4LywTCcw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QBHWIH33etosRFKl+7RtJu9KDpQNlA9WnZQj5esrOvlzSmUslm4/JUSD4LaJBffTmdpEmqRfwfvj1J3cIh28lluPVfxXgC2zicffRVm2/7ixwd+kqk61M9e3UiSzubmky7m90lkjYb/7uJmD7Yqdne2yDOSd2x6kDwK6+YORopg= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0SV1UDSULy+xtXL3wnJ3Bho+PJmXR9/rQ5ckg2MvXGPifQZBiIPUKT7isoauE0pedA1ylg4Dd0CH0AfYpNQnlFPPINCTgiLdeXtLt7d2Op7TKRwoBB6qYdcy0aG8Lu9R+3XXTIvSkOaMT8vKaaYJavbSd6oWQ/dW/b1yp2qB+N4=; f8otAj.orfFgzpI1A4rtB0CgimhjVwlo7vTVFW4NPlyJTspRybzsj_Z7TVL6 vfCGcQH5TkU9FkFtpPhbffOl3qA0RsNpP_60PLvSTlmwNao2KcMjn5VN0Kfg .oFnaOpRSMj5_i2vXuOlkAYnzjVXXsi9ZhbWXgkDRTfK3mUp1wd2OSrnskY1 K_qiblFIL1x7RQiSuYgWnS4Ub4urIq22HElTvR_3n13qA.O1_zX_gzq..fN9 mtTPu1u0s7e87eI5WhBkrnX_76XmoZYn6xRl5H2Hk4cWNJHtA35k.It2Nwsw nmWEDcOaq1Plw8VT0R19ZOr5kMccCCen8ABUWcu2Hky5GBpxtNnp8bAq5oHx aJ_v7lWa29IpLKVVMck8JEYZA.cEcNhAnbP7lINggqbDP9X.h2Vw7udMng69 5vQ0z4RE84nGy5dqm.lg4vXpY2GurnPV9gRiXgoYC38MJvnvXOYkLkHHEty4 deYSYYOJsffx2W8MBhVgXvxHpT54- Received: from [173.48.171.26] by web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:28:34 PDT UG93ZXIgd2luZG93cywgcG93ZXIgbG9ja3MsIEEvQyzCoCBDcnVpc2VPTWF0aWMuIENhbiB5b3Ugc2F5ICdUaWdlciBUb20nPwoKTWljaGFlbCwgaXQncyBhIHNoYW1lIHlvdSBkb24ndCBsaXZlIGEgbGl0dGxlIGNsb3NlciB0byB1cy4gVG9tJ3MgY2FyIHdpbGwgc3R1biB5b3UuIERvbmUgbGlrZSB0aGUgZmFjdG9yeSB3b3VsZCBoYXZlLgoKUmFuZGUgQmVsbG1hbgoBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 19:28:34 -0700 (PDT) From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tigers and power windows Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Power windows, power locks, A/C, CruiseOMatic. Can you say 'Tiger Tom'? Michael, it's a shame you don't live a little closer to us. Tom's car will stun you. Done like the factory would have. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 07:42:32 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F8340356 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 07:42:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA116400FF for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 07:25:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 1E7487000009D; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:24:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mod001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mod001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.196.1]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 91EE3E00008F; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:24:57 -0400 (EDT) From: FHSLOTH13@aol.com Full-name: FHSLOTH13 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:24:57 -0400 (EDT) To: snakebit289@yahoo.com, tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1380029097; bh=jsj9whq4sIlOy8fdVZ02UKaCOayvpQ3WWuiljoYBkkA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GOBCw1YoMqhoh+pkKI040cgQT605KaiCgRYMTvXQ35/I/UA74iMAwBvGUhkJr1DRj q6JIaub+eqcrEXjc9UfqGSkAQfICUipyxhhGz+mF0FjBvy18JWT3ny9kBeNcTFz/JK 0bKurcNhUhTRrKE0BbloPU0Oy0CZPbZoyitJZEP0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc524192a974f1 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers and power windows Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tom recently sold his Tiger. Now he's known as "Tigerless Tom". Fred Baum In a message dated 9/23/2013 10:48:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, snakebit289@yahoo.com writes: Power windows, power locks, A/C, CruiseOMatic. Can you say 'Tiger Tom'? Michael, it's a shame you don't live a little closer to us. Tom's car will stun you. Done like the factory would have. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/fhsloth13@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 09:00:23 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069CA40396 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:00:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm36.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm36.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.29]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C461B400FF for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 08:28:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm36.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 14:27:44 -0000 Received: from [98.138.90.56] by nm36.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 14:25:00 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.144] by tm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 14:25:00 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.212] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 14:25:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1021.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 14:25:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 79059 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Sep 2013 14:25:00 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380032700; bh=HumP5k7tdpi/sHQENIPCFSM4YWFcHEpON5+AU46f9p0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=p4qJPPVF7YrSxuGkZby7CPHcq3W1W3DbIUEga2YJf/ge6w3omo9ptr9SdE9tqJOTMBl1DTAMzs0pYiVJsb6NUuDqC0ufnWQL2XqTSB09LgmOWWGT8PUCg3xZPnFaC+QshTHXczMyX9qkXZRi0XyB6jiNQk/cvoWkOouJbCKVVDE= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EKXfs2oOwm9XHQvZiPq4YkzOJwBrfseUF8PLFKG2p/H+HxYPsyQhZlJV/rFTeDbzpiXfTnx+DWEOfmHBJMgyCeiWx/SMR1p1lIHY7CACgfsQOgFoagnpSLpV8n/5SNVveXeHe5HzAexFYxP0SpxWlFRqnd1f280g+NuxcvhMyUg=; TOIZNoY6B.Z8pLThynfwiCRLHe.bqLWvMOLWZxhbhAJo6l90NwUVa0BFgdjs JcqOw6t5RdeW88f_8uZ4qJUGSOicmeKklnl2kDCxxTCmWEGbelKGZaObir4A Hu_H.Ve5uSMTaci.M71grmBuDPFAIlv5kj35RfmmdzyIOp8620ZlZz9o6_pL VGWq9._jRc3fdsuOYmgf.EdQ3iKh919szoBgu4R8pevnmSyHTwsBIWSsRDu. F7sa5G_SpwzVr1Cq02TE2SK4yay9JZ2R4WgEjls0.uLSyJbc9LP1LdfC.qys PCRp9bAMbQoX5t1ITBhG3kD6QqjdocpssHVvn26ktWDZYIDa.xMI5Elc.m14 jmrl3WyBu3ZAhwDBtXl0yLQykEtNSM13.xuxXxrrHhmH7.RHXsOuHa2bcbKb EmRU74Tr_SZX6f4Ya2xPeO6IA.Wv1DYgB4vJZt91VlFiGEVuO0m7vC7nS7m. jRaucAR8F1zazzPyJvlCD2VZ2_RFB Received: from [173.48.171.26] by web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 07:25:00 PDT JyAgClRvbSByZWNlbnRseSBzb2xkIGhpcyBUaWdlci4gTm93IGhlJ3Mga25vd24gYXMgIlRpZ2VybGVzcyBUb20iLgrCoApGcmVkIEJhdW0nCgoKVEhJUyBDQU4nVCBCRS4gVGhpcyBpcyBsaWtlIHNreSB3aXRob3V0IGJsdWUsIGxpa2UgbW9vbiB3aXRob3V0IHNoaW5lLCBsaWtlIExld2lzIHdpdGhvdXQgTWFydGluLiBTb21lb25lIGZpeCB0aGlzLgoBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 07:25:00 -0700 (PDT) From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tiger(less) Tom Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net ' Tom recently sold his Tiger. Now he's known as "Tigerless Tom". Fred Baum' THIS CAN'T BE. This is like sky without blue, like moon without shine, like Lewis without Martin. Someone fix this. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 10:03:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00774403A5 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:03:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm41.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm41.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.120.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485F140042 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:33:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm41.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 15:32:29 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm41.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 15:29:55 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.146] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 15:29:55 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.249] by tm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 15:29:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1058.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 15:29:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 11472 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Sep 2013 15:29:55 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380036595; bh=AZDNdB9IGQH6+SwgoSrY65P/Mdhy+VANO88R+lMWSU8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=K4BV/kFrocuMZ6rZ8N3XI6KF56OP4j5qw7GNvBvz7tVtK8IXIkcvnewAKfiTIg4Zj4sQzpiy87hKZtqlU/8xOIkZTlSN4nc40NegH6u2nH1/BBd+UoAoTobjgXLHMEPF3z3/9HL7LMZ0LqrbGFXMz7Ezbtc+ShcL81vpEhbnlg0= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PJmCEhQvoUOiQw7UyyAT28R/Bc04qbriN5227GhTjfXk3nnZaOgK4qF/O5ZUakmQVm7bmo7xxV5E+4vIYpVmbybrXvb2DTquOjTdcON2T91A9022aPqzVV1mcBVIBeek54bFjumyPnCelTi1fsIESH4fgNuI4CXuyvWSZ7jnFy8=; KnJhKH185U2ou1w91EUFRK2H6r1Ne2PKT7XKxxWJ7tD7nAmQAGqLEw5c0une b2MKgrg2i1SWY8PeCaQ88cjOsziRD66jj9Oh3A8NrZyu4dAbuBCcJImgVNi4 1Q_6Z_Tb0Sr.I4gCXGrXGWkO301USUJgILBwPAjzzn_TT6u77fq9jKi0oOwQ j151pxGpxjWXoVRJvz4yRvGShCxUnXBx4bBHNlnyu_i5Hd.DiGxbxUQW5sob __FboqHSvKzqsuLsCtXMUOtodZmkFuoUUhWA.iPSWkjXn9O1wHY7TawONKKo 6eBOG2uIztbsyEQTfJaVwMRBGHoCV5yJNNuo4dJKwv.nbYPMBZgzD.4bx9DP EssgzqHbevHvTGmnb1DsGe3Hm_vWUajR5ddaxb.vWbYdUeUGnIPYhWW2p0TY aykV2wWkQ4XsPnOCYbd225ttZ.so94TEVOigeP1ck6u1YS1N2QgnEzWHVdhn ABanx4wh5wyfhZsZftnEgF1W1FxtZlrheacbfRLkd2YP_2uyl4lXoBZGA2bp Avyz5J0ofauMrovVlfYdaHx9.iNBlmngFYRve24j4kaAMIYe9_vU09dJDuoB 5p7H79ftR1f0DHNsrw5LzfOzOhNYAO8QXA_P4EFsvPUggJN1FiKMquC0xPwm x5QeNJHD8yjW3pSCOhhAF Received: from [173.48.171.26] by web161005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 08:29:55 PDT aHR0cDovL2Jsb2cuaGVtbWluZ3MuY29tL2luZGV4LnBocC8yMDEzLzA5LzI0L2hlbW1pbmdzLWZpbmQtb2YtdGhlLWRheS0xOTYxLXN1bmJlYW0taGFycmluZ3Rvbi8_cmVmZXI9bmV3cwoKUHJldHR5IGNhciBmb3Igc2FsZSwgbG9va3MgdG8gYmUgcmVjZW50IHJlc3RvcmF0aW9uLCBhc2tpbmcgYSBsb3Qgb2YgbW9uZXksIGxvY2F0ZWQgaW4gTWljaGlnYW4sIG5vdCBteSBzYWxlLgoBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 08:29:55 -0700 (PDT) From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Cc: "alpines@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Hemmings Harrington 'A' for sale, big bucks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2013/09/24/hemmings-find-of-the-day-1961-sunbeam-harrington/?refer=news Pretty car for sale, looks to be recent restoration, asking a lot of money, located in Michigan, not my sale. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 10:33:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44A5540324 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:33:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 284D440324 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:52:41 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=deiland1@elp.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=x5e_pkXdOccA:10 a=IzxBjg6XAAAA:8 a=8xhpX0-aeT-8OQz93gQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=JgfTlDjRizUA:10 a=WCxXiEhK4ecA:10 a=OUWNQjY9KrsA:10 a=1VnIzdobi6JJjPr6PC4+kg==:117 Received: from [10.128.132.172] ([10.128.132.172:56124] helo=hrndva-web21-z02) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 3C/33-26119-025B1425; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:52:00 +0000 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:52:00 +0000 From: To: Tiger List Sensitivity: Normal Subject: [Tigers] 1966 Sunbeam Tiger Mk I Sold for $96,250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tiger owners should like this. Probably old news to the list but good news. RM Auctions 2013 - Monterey Lot 162 1966 Sunbeam Tiger Mk I Sold for $96,250 http://www.rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=1061219 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 11:40:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA183403B9 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:40:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm29-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm29-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70D540323 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:55:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm29.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 16:55:04 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.203] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 16:55:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1012.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 16:55:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 98115 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Sep 2013 16:55:04 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380041703; bh=rWLycfvypOHWvgEE56dy2tka3axi57wLoscQTFwTTbk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JYxY7OSDYHXYRkU+WOQxiRqSh1GiiNpglQgWwqvDUBw6o/yjj37ZpY8ym/BD1bu6x27WBZyfE7pirMPHoBNm8K0pK8YuBpNE8Rfrps4HDnySNbUoSeisdvZgOs8U3pmclTKo/J8G0GMVrEsL3sXHEOd+bNsD6FY7E6mF5CkvVh8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SNWZvY1xRu4401WzMAl1YfQtQHjVaffDY7PXB7VqHvoF04gmqRcSEycnNHedB5dwV/viG/LidUDR6sN1AQVStU8h/f5k48wLKbTBZHgL3QUiOas3cua9I8mChiyJnyg0agO24NROkdQnmAqoJhT0Td5xVhcrMMHlABJlXGqe9wQ=; JrvFLR6H6ZsyVCGaFw6BpOfUcd.0GpP5GDNwG6kkQaWQ.QvQmi1TXzLQhbiY 65t.BPKVP3LEtf8fuRJqT7fNU7MhCX4qaOMqEhn_EUQHNZrywZ2ZED6AQ5YI cvHzl._MnDtLTVucf0Lw_cC9yxfFy9yPtX9XF4YcPaiA9hfs3r_H18xbvnqY UZBPtSUQMVPKtzLMWSFR4T2_EmHLHQvZ9ZwyrpOHR5gjjnBwfo_Y9o8hIt3o fS4QhygV22amsKyBlbnur7AQvTY_v6jbGeziBXOgXqvCVJfvlL6.PJBg1kQH 0ylgKONuTrDrPoaj25U0gzSVa8SFDzCqtmbqvyIqolt4TaPBffnDC6GjET_f _YyHGmRcHHnspmPlkFDwbZIVxPFbhPEmJBaTkjZmfWB_NFPcqf0_2Ka_0.kn 2nXcCNx4Zv_lPk6JCsbqutnllE5Z9INeeaVxqqN_3bg_37iufDp2x66gm_Y1 RLM0bC0C.sKbq6VUvo8yrLUqrwjG3fZcpSRzLEb5NZbH9jsFE1DT_b8ktdEO Gq.tK5gQ2dZrPNbOMEAFdIEF55HjSV8l41FwXJRNQQTrMGYqjah4hJtgiVbB PS9hhr8yl0LOMMGr1cmhi_XSI2C_zHAYweTu8SiMs4AvhNa2sTlly_fLRuMa t67b.Wb29fNivnMQzMk6BQGcxx_G5gfe0MabgPCUh0cxbFreCkAXQJmNibWQ mdNippGxOt9gC Received: from [199.46.200.230] by web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:55:03 PDT RGFuLArCoApUaGlzIGlzwqBhIGNhdGNoIDIyIGZvciBUaWdlcnMsIGdyZWF0IG5ld3MgaWYgeW91J3JlIHNlbGxpbmcsIGJhZCBuZXdzIGlmIHlvdSdyZSBidXlpbmcuCsKgCkknbcKgdGhlIG93bmVyIG9mIHR3byBUaWdlcnMgYW5kIHBlcnNvbmFsbHnCoEkgZG9uJ3QgbGlrZSBpdCB0aGF0IG11Y2guIFRob3VnaCBpdCBtYXkgaGVscCBzcHJlYWQgdGhlIGF3YXJlbmVzcyBvZiBUaWdlcnMgdG8gc29tZSBkZWdyZWUgYW1vbmcgdGhlIGF1Y3Rpb25lZXJzLCBpdCBlbGltaW5hdGVzIGEgbG90IG9mIHBvdGVudGkBMAEBAQE- References: <20130924155200.3GQTX.84634.root@hrndva-web21-z02> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 09:55:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary To: "deiland1@elp.rr.com" , Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] 1966 Sunbeam Tiger Mk I Sold for $96,250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Dan, This is a catch 22 for Tigers, great news if you're selling, bad news if you're buying. I'm the owner of two Tigers and personally I don't like it that much. Though it may help spread the awareness of Tigers to some degree among the auctioneers, it eliminates a lot of potential buyers who may otherwise have had a interest in purchasing a Tiger and thus maintaining the marque. Most Tiger owners I see, including me, have a little gray hair starting to show (some more than others) and I think it would be nice to see the next generation pick up where we left off. Pricing our cars out of the daily driver (more like weekend) market does nothing for that. The more expensive the car, the less it is driven, to say nothing about insurance rates... and personally I like driving my Tiger. Gary From: "deiland1@elp.rr.com" To: Tiger List Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:52 AM Subject: [Tigers] 1966 Sunbeam Tiger Mk I Sold for $96,250 Tiger owners should like this. Probably old news to the list but good news. RM Auctions 2013 - Monterey Lot 162 1966 Sunbeam Tiger Mk I Sold for $96,250 http://www.rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=1061219 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/maliburevue@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 12:11:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58E85403A6 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 12:11:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f177.google.com (mail-vc0-f177.google.com [209.85.220.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECE78400AD for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:17:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id hv10so3513078vcb.36 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:16:32 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=MDgKTtVqkFPvJG5Rtw2OV2En3rUGNA4cSU0b5XYY/5k=; b=qJjcQGD4SvT9lOupn6C8CyJnnwX9UAcwyE3pvy10sykgxA4RXcv3QWwPr6ZP8HH3vZ c0Vni2mscHUs591hvz6jDLb1K/y2Gs1COuqKRakSrU+xyEozWqlMm5BhJvOUL+oeG3of Pd/n3n0vXOOSZt/bAhxCUT/bgWWi6ytf7vrO1me0oRNCSDKN4GpRIFxRARsclQLsVE80 txUTjdH0Qo3/DR1Gz/n07es9LC1Vx3fLrkV5+25HLoKZ3kVtGM9c4BUpTzcJN7MT/hL2 oGJbtg3GQ2L1MASZsQODcuvZS/8QZXPemVCw7pjI/D7WJBPH4kQhbHRdaAcl9MURHwyh BHiQ== x8mr11607356vds.23.1380042992071; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.143.11 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:16:32 -0700 (PDT) References: <20130924155200.3GQTX.84634.root@hrndva-web21-z02> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:16:32 -0700 From: Jay Laifman To: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] 1966 Sunbeam Tiger Mk I Sold for $96,250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net $96,000!!!! Geeze. I drove the Tiger to work today! I better get it flatbedded home... On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 8:52 AM, wrote: > Tiger owners should like this. Probably old news to the list but good news. > > RM Auctions > > 2013 - Monterey > > Lot 162 > > 1966 Sunbeam Tiger Mk I > > Sold for $96,250 > > http://www.rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=1061219 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 12:11:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EE40403DD for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 12:11:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo101.cox.net (eastrmfepo101.cox.net [68.230.241.213]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2538F40325 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 11:36:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo305 ([68.230.241.237]) by eastrmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20130924173615.LCWS3872.eastrmfepo101.cox.net@eastrmimpo305> for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 13:36:15 -0400 Received: from eastrmwml107 ([172.18.18.217]) by eastrmimpo305 with cox id V5cF1m00R4h0NJL015cFEh; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 13:36:15 -0400 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:17 a=EJ39XRBDdNwA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=UyHOC7Gu_PIA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=lKK-cBJMVcAA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=3uozNPWGAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=LdHVaRyPHXxoXPZWqF0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=yQOhmEilvjAA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 204.61.12.74 by webmail.east.cox.net; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 13:36:15 -0400 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 13:36:15 -0400 From: To: "tigers@autox.team.net" , snakebit289 Sensitivity: Normal Cc: "alpines@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Hemmings Harrington 'A' for sale, big bucks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I believe that is the ex-Bill Atalla ride, if I'm not mistaken... Andy Walker Edmond, OK B382001600LRXFE TAC #740 ---- snakebit289 wrote: > http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2013/09/24/hemmings-find-of-the-day-1961-sunbeam-harrington/?refer=news > > Pretty car for sale, looks to be recent restoration, asking a lot of money, located in Michigan, not my sale. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/awtiger@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 12:46:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DF47403F0 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 12:46:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B8DE400A4 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 12:00:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.252.133.122] (154.sub-174-251-224.myvzw.com [174.251.224.154]) (authenticated bits=0) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id r8OHxgFo029749 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:59:44 -0700 References: <20130924155200.3GQTX.84634.root@hrndva-web21-z02> <1380041703.95083.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: C And J Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 10:59:41 -0700 To: Gary Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] 1966 Sunbeam Tiger Mk I Sold for $96,250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Rick at Sunbeam Specialties told me the same thing. I like the recognition of the Tiger, but at those prices they get parked. Usually in a warehouse with fifty other cars. Chris Sent from my iPhone On Sep 24, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Gary wrote: > Dan, > > This is a catch 22 for Tigers, great news if you're selling, bad news > if you're buying. > > I'm the owner of two Tigers and personally I don't like it > that much. Though it may help spread the awareness of Tigers to some degree > among the auctioneers, it eliminates a lot of potential buyers who may > otherwise have had a interest in purchasing a Tiger and thus maintaining the > marque. Most Tiger owners I see, including me, have a little gray hair > starting to show (some more than others) and I think it would be nice to see > the next generation pick up where we left off. Pricing our cars out of the > daily driver (more like weekend) market does nothing for that. The more > expensive the car, the less it is driven, to say nothing about insurance > rates... and personally I like driving my Tiger. > > Gary > > From: > "deiland1@elp.rr.com" > To: Tiger List > > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:52 AM > Subject: > [Tigers] 1966 Sunbeam Tiger Mk I Sold for $96,250 > > > Tiger owners should like > this. Probably old news to the list but good news. > > RM Auctions > > 2013 - > Monterey > > Lot 162 > > 1966 Sunbeam Tiger Mk I > > Sold for $96,250 > http://www.rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=1061219 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/maliburevue@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cjcoffel@sonic.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 17:13:50 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A1C403F0 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:13:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF0F400FF for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:27:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.252.133.122] (154.sub-174-251-224.myvzw.com [174.251.224.154]) (authenticated bits=0) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id r8OMQQjb008326 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:26:27 -0700 References: <20130924155200.3GQTX.84634.root@hrndva-web21-z02> <1380041703.95083.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1380050551.13024.YahooMailNeo@web182203.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: C And J Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:26:24 -0700 To: Gary L Moore Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] 1966 Sunbeam Tiger Mk I Sold for $96,250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Very true. Everything is on a journey to somewhere. Matter does not exist. Only energy. The true substance of the universe is not matter, but consciousness My favorite video, as of late...... http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dVUU3p5iHMA Sent from my iPhone On Sep 24, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Gary L Moore wrote: > nothing remains static. I bought my Tiger in 1986. I drove it all over the country and preserved it. Today I prefer driving my Chrysler Crossfire Srt6. Faster and better handling. Money is not an issue. The Tiger is a show car. I just bought a 1948 Plymouth coupe like the one I had in 1957. I will enjoy restoring it. gary.. > > > From: C And J > To: Gary > Cc: Tiger List > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 1:59 PM > Subject: Re: [Tigers] 1966 Sunbeam Tiger Mk I Sold for $96,250 > > Rick at Sunbeam Specialties told me the same thing. I like the recognition of > the Tiger, but at those prices they get parked. Usually in a warehouse with > fifty other cars. > > Chris > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 24, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Gary wrote: > > > Dan, > > > > This is a catch 22 for Tigers, great news if you're selling, bad news > > if you're buying. > > > > I'm the owner of two Tigers and personally I don't like it > > that much. Though it may help spread the awareness of Tigers to some degree > > among the auctioneers, it eliminates a lot of potential buyers who may > > otherwise have had a interest in purchasing a Tiger and thus maintaining > the > > marque. Most Tiger owners I see, including me, have a little gray hair > > starting to show (some more than others) and I think it would be nice to > see > > the next generation pick up where we left off. Pricing our cars out of the > > daily driver (more like weekend) market does nothing for that. The more > > expensive the car, the less it is driven, to say nothing about insurance > > rates... and personally I like driving my Tiger. > > > > Gary > > > > From: > > "deiland1@elp.rr.com" > > To: Tiger List > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 8:52 AM > > Subject: > > [Tigers] 1966 Sunbeam Tiger Mk I Sold for $96,250 > > > > > > Tiger owners should like > > this. Probably old news to the list but good news. > > > > RM Auctions > > > > 2013 - > > Monterey > > > > Lot 162 > > > > 1966 Sunbeam Tiger Mk I > > > > Sold for $96,250 > > http://www.rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=1061219 > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/maliburevue@yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cjcoffel@sonic.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/arado7@sbcglobal.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 17:15:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FB04040C for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:15:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm44-vm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm44-vm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76103400FF for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:29:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.174] by nm44.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 22:28:49 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.213] by tm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 22:28:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1022.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2013 22:28:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 3680 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Sep 2013 22:28:49 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380061729; bh=DNztS+gnUfINrGW3ebfYQQo6Wse3xCXx43iGrpdo/+Y=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aOKe9aIJuC6FRtLo171ZLW89rlpqLyXeAL6+V35SvrrBBfzXyWez6/M5JxM1GkGFNrBCmlISt8h0tPQQ+Z0l93JYbCWQWBpBD+15pQYk/INhXL/6yI3kG/BgjKjAGTN2xrZA2kMDvP7kLpr3XqWNaCHki8lc5H0CL1vfVNA3Js4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=I2HTad+l4WbXLBnPUfkfvMzeOC01l2yI7Kp+0OL9WUyWUtxJcIywsaqw3Hbgb888oXLaPztjlkd/Y2h+gTzOV4e5TGeEIilmyL7XCBBgdzCIO9AgxzVBpnxmh/1F5hS04hcx27UGCncvYzwlFnYXF7P/jsU5HHD33W1GWibaJ5I=; iQLk8O9VjRGAz8nTGIXb0 Received: from [173.48.171.26] by web161003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:28:48 PDT THlubiwgaWYgeW91J3JlIGEgRmFjZWJvb2sgbWVtYmVyLCBCaWxsIEF0YWxsYSBpcyBhIGh1Z2UgY29udHJpYnV0b3IgdG8gdGhlICdTdW5iZWFtIFRpZ2VyJyBvcGVuIGdyb3VwLiBJIGRvbid0IGtub3cgd2hhdCBoaXMgcHJlc2VuY2Ugb24gQXV0b3ggaXMsIGJ1dCBoZSBwb3N0cyB0byB0aGUgRkIgJ1N1bmJlYW0gVGlnZXInIGdyb3VwIGF0IGxlYXN0IG9uY2UgYSBkYXksIGFuZCBvZnRlbiBtdWx0aXBsZSB0aW1lcy4gQW5kLCBJJ20gcHJldHR5IHN1cmUgdGhhdCBoZSdzIG5vdyBiYXNlZCBpbiBSZW5vLgoBMAEBAQE- References: <20130924133615.E3F10.382453.imail@eastrmwml107> <003401ceb957$899f12c0$9cdd3840$@wt-inc.com> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:28:48 -0700 (PDT) From: snakebit289 To: Lynn Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Hemmings Harrington 'A' for sale, big bucks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Lynn, if you're a Facebook member, Bill Atalla is a huge contributor to the 'Sunbeam Tiger' open group. I don't know what his presence on Autox is, but he posts to the FB 'Sunbeam Tiger' group at least once a day, and often multiple times. And, I'm pretty sure that he's now based in Reno. Rande Bellman ________________________________ From: Lynn To: awtiger@cox.net; tigers@autox.team.net; 'snakebit289' Cc: alpines@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 2:54 PM Subject: RE: [Tigers] Hemmings Harrington 'A' for sale, big bucks I thought Bill's old car was a GT. I also remember Bill's car having much more chrome. I did not know that Bill had a "regular" tiger. Am I mistaken?? Bill's cars have always been restored to a pretty high standard. I also remember Bill living in Napa (approx.) although he could have sold it to someone in Michigan. -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of awtiger@cox.net Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2013 11:36 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net; snakebit289 Cc: alpines@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Hemmings Harrington 'A' for sale, big bucks I believe that is the ex-Bill Atalla ride, if I'm not mistaken... Andy Walker Edmond, OK B382001600LRXFE TAC #740 ---- snakebit289 wrote: > http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2013/09/24/hemmings-find-of-the-day-1961- sunbeam-harrington/?refer=news > > Pretty car for sale, looks to be recent restoration, asking a lot of money, located in Michigan, not my sale. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/awtiger@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cars@wt-inc.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 18:17:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F292640422 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 18:17:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f44.google.com (mail-oa0-f44.google.com [209.85.219.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF71400A4; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:35:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id l10so114954oag.31 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:35:12 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Gvy0ItVgMEBEgalD61UjJsFfXAICh5JC3NB15h+c+qY=; b=FIgdNyGu0ztXnUsytcTCErVMlj7zf7R+W4HmG7cnC19qqhVncDnSotMoOnN4FKra1N T8QXLboIfqr5/GDT4LmKK+NtDAD0io3kANkatA9QJP1JPnzoFR9e2n4YyF93cx2AE2EC SgVFqGgllSbfFSwpi0kNCEvBFvsoETt/+iYLubtIZHmPd6v8kHVF+OV2ebJpqm3s5S4J NPlDDtVX0NtaFM90B6WWv/MtbiMAsvPsTRcIvNM0+Yw639XYhQ/Dh6JSL3uOiNMLieex LVjgUc9J+hU8+fRGy2DrvixN8Y0qrWdgYftOQbALJtSafUa/Gq73rwSYwpTqJekiFtQ5 QHgA== dt9mr14020591oeb.27.1380065712443; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.34.196 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:35:12 -0700 (PDT) References: <1380036595.5872.YahooMailNeo@web161005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 09:35:12 +1000 From: michael king To: snakebit289 Cc: "alpines@autox.team.net" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Hemmings Harrington 'A' for sale, big bucks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net This is the ex-Atalla Harrington, I emailed Bill about it a week or so back when i saw it for sale. He sold it a few years ago and it has passed through at least 3 dealers. Bill also has a black GT Tiger (that he sold and bought back) and has had several other Sunbeams, a Harrington LM, 3 x SII Alpines, another MKI Tiger and the SIV race car and yellow SIV Alpine... he may have had others I am not aware of.. but his cars are always nice. On 25 September 2013 01:29, snakebit289 wrote: > > http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2013/09/24/hemmings-find-of-the-day-1961-sunbeam-harrington/?refer=news > > Pretty car for sale, looks to be recent restoration, asking a lot of > money, located in Michigan, not my sale. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 18:18:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4046240536 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 18:18:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f51.google.com (mail-oa0-f51.google.com [209.85.219.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 218894038B for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:38:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id h16so117617oag.38 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:37:54 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Jr56okcfhYGmHKMtdl8vP1QQOjGEkLbLb5Up4bgTD9Q=; b=TzY45oCwoxwMc1Z90cvte2w4JNi3FGhzZG/GbGqb7eQm36Lt/J9q7N1efInisXuL66 SlPHCQV9oaP/PFgYS4aov/1m8sc3zJJf1GA38d6nj++gBIkR+pKY/37BLoCbKkL7ClpE PxvOpodjuzjP2cIKVm/jhBq6ZjenrL3NgHp0TxzcMs4EK/RybhT0tXXB3X+MDcJck7hk Sa9wtnos6L/YCWGpCW3/Gnmn4gYgIneBD2JbjLXqKx9SflBpjIhYH3y03fwKa2S7SRE5 4tbWPDxij8xnwo9Ztx4aTCnfkofYaCvW4AmhowqOhSHCvt3nZQSCPqJyi8la6H404ePk AzJw== ok10mr173184obc.62.1380065874387; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.34.196 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:37:54 -0700 (PDT) References: <20130924155200.3GQTX.84634.root@hrndva-web21-z02> <1380041703.95083.YahooMailNeo@web124703.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 09:37:54 +1000 From: michael king To: Gary Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] 1966 Sunbeam Tiger Mk I Sold for $96,250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net On 25 September 2013 02:55, Gary wrote: > Dan, > > This is a catch 22 for Tigers, great news if you're selling, bad news > if you're buying. > > Gary > This Tiger was discussed ont he CAT forum.. its great the cars are being appreciated.. but what the problem is to me is a car liek this one brings that $... we discussed the car on the CAt forum and there were some interesting "before" shots not to mention parts on the car that are incorrect, missing and then things like the homemade VIN and JAL... -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 19:17:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06C7E403B2 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 19:17:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d09.mx.aol.com (omr-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DB6403A6 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 18:43:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.200]) by omr-d09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 461C57013A843; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 20:42:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mlc001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mlc001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.207]) by mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0C518E000088; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 20:42:21 -0400 (EDT) From: MWood24020@aol.com Full-name: MWood24020 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 20:42:20 -0400 (EDT) To: michael.s.king@gmail.com, maliburevue@yahoo.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1380069741; bh=j/NmSwX1zK6BATvn1hr6O0YUZD3BCWCDVhblLiyiE2o=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GTU1JS9CMn4+f8hl3oTB+fgQD3Ti0eEITHiLyv5Q4iNEJc6lLDmeD0+mnh9wHrrs8 DfR5Z3OontslrK3d8LMmfjWnrvpkGc5qCzD/jtaoH5Pu0Gi+HyRF8XQwXz+dkSYjax IA5lsxpg9SVCaT7Q1MybIQqV54SYsPbQnmmK1lG8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c85242316d2834 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] 1966 Sunbeam Tiger Mk I Sold for $96,250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net It has been said before, but bears repeating: the Tiger market is similar to the Pantera market. Personalized cars, that show well, can easily pull similar money to "correct" cars...particularly when you start factoring in the fun to drive piece ;-) In a message dated 9/24/2013 5:18:15 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, michael.s.king@gmail.com writes: On 25 September 2013 02:55, Gary wrote: > Dan, > > This is a catch 22 for Tigers, great news if you're selling, bad news > if you're buying. > > Gary > This Tiger was discussed ont he CAT forum.. its great the cars are being appreciated.. but what the problem is to me is a car liek this one brings that $... we discussed the car on the CAt forum and there were some interesting "before" shots not to mention parts on the car that are incorrect, missing and then things like the homemade VIN and JAL... -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mwood24020@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 22:38:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E220403FC for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:38:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F4E140329 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:38:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004960.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r8P4YIun026387 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:37:55 -0700 Received: by dm0227.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 43ca9d92) id dm0227.5239289f.12f881 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:37:54 -0700 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:37:42 -0700 From: Larry Mayfield Organization: Mayfield Motorsport User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-25_02:2013-09-25,2013-09-25,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309240205 Subject: [Tigers] Bonneville.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net is once again, off...:'( No more Land Speed racing until next year in August... Bonneville had too much water on it to clear up before Oct 1st...bummer.... If anyone had planned on going I am sorry I wont see you there. Canceled my room reservations today right after the official notice from SCTA-BNI... double bummer... larry -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 24 22:47:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5A0840401 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:47:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D093E40329 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:44:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CA0CA1022 for ; Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:43:53 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:43:53 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 SeaMonkey/2.19 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" References: <52426896.9060900@mayfco.com> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Bonneville.... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Larry Mayfield wrote: > is once again, off...:'( Shucks. I've lived in Utah 40 years and a day, and have yet to make it to the flats for an event. I was a precision driver in a Hyundai commercial out there once, but that doesn't count. And I'm sure I've mentioned before that when running Intermountain Vintage Racing I'd schedule Wendover events for Salt Flats weekends, always hoping I could sneak away for a few hours to check things out. Like THAT ever happened! 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The black Tiger from a few days ago purporedly sold for $96,000, nice but run of the mill fifties American sedans asking $50,000 plus. I think, in the case of the dealer selling the Harrington A, someone is trying to recoup their restoration cost. It begs the advice that classic car dealers tell people. Don't buy a car and restore it, hoping to get your investment back. Buy the most complete car you can afford, and let a previous owner lose money on a restoration. Rande Bellman ________________________________ From: "jacranwell@aol.com" To: snakebit289@yahoo.com; tigers@autox.team.net Cc: alpines@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Alpines] Hemmings Harrington 'A' for sale, big bucks That is crazy money for a Harrington. If anyone is tempted, I'll find you one in the UK for $30,000. Jules. -----Original Message----- From: snakebit289 To: tigers CC: alpines Sent: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:04 Subject: [Alpines] Hemmings Harrington 'A' for sale, big bucks http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2013/09/24/hemmings-find-of-the-day-1961-sunbeam-harrington/?refer=news Pretty car for sale, looks to be recent restoration, asking a lot of money, located in Michigan, not my sale. _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $17.25 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/jacranwell@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 13:07:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECF794044D for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:07:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26E74006F for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:03:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.9]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6349E700000BE; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 15:02:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mfb005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mfb005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.47.220]) by mtaomg-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 26FB8E000087; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 15:02:25 -0400 (EDT) From: AAAGLASSS@aol.com Full-name: AAAGLASSS Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 15:02:25 -0400 (EDT) To: snakebit289@yahoo.com, jacranwell@aol.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1380135745; bh=BTXh6B+Gu4Gy587luLAf7KvQtz2wcgbzOmU7zEjrfEU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DP5Wvl3Spe7W0NeXP3L/OKAgChaOF55KlB8w1WWEDLsS+o7rcS0R/XGjw3jQgF45J 3WgLw7pqrdnIGHVHm9+OPssBKPdJ8Rt9FVQEAtz5L3YrceGxa2dNU/y5uE2dbehU10 q1WzwXAbUhdpSYXeugky3dfXaGb5GKY05TqmSTVk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2909524333410749 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] [Alpines] Hemmings Harrington 'A' for sale, big bucks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net How true. Back in the 80's a customer came in with a 67 convert Mustang. We started talking prices on his car. He told me that someone had offered him $4,000.00 for his car and he was insulted at this low ball price(then). He then preceded to tell me that if he put another $3,000.00 in it he could get $7,000.00 for it. And he meant it. In a message dated 9/25/2013 11:55:46 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, snakebit289@yahoo.com writes: If you'll notice, some of the asking prices for many cars have lately been very high. The black Tiger from a few days ago purporedly sold for $96,000, nice but run of the mill fifties American sedans asking $50,000 plus. I think, in the case of the dealer selling the Harrington A, someone is trying to recoup their restoration cost. It begs the advice that classic car dealers tell people. Don't buy a car and restore it, hoping to get your investment back. Buy the most complete car you can afford, and let a previous owner lose money on a restoration. Rande Bellman ________________________________ From: "jacranwell@aol.com" To: snakebit289@yahoo.com; tigers@autox.team.net Cc: alpines@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 11:40 AM Subject: Re: [Alpines] Hemmings Harrington 'A' for sale, big bucks That is crazy money for a Harrington. If anyone is tempted, I'll find you one in the UK for $30,000. Jules. -----Original Message----- From: snakebit289 To: tigers CC: alpines Sent: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 17:04 Subject: [Alpines] Hemmings Harrington 'A' for sale, big bucks http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2013/09/24/hemmings-find-of-the-day-1961- sunbeam-harrington/?refer=news Pretty car for sale, looks to be recent restoration, asking a lot of money, located in Michigan, not my sale. _______________________________________________ Alpines@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/alpines/jacranwell@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/aaaglasss@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 13:22:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F136540449 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:22:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp451.redcondor.net (smtp451.redcondor.net [208.80.204.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FBE4041A for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:22:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hargray.com ([64.203.254.40]) by smtp451.redcondor.net ({64f3d0f0-9a92-47a2-ba77-ce0798423d5d}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20130925192126112 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:21:26 +0000 Received: from [199.241.211.241] (account geowiz@hargray.com HELO JamesPickardPC) by ispfe2.hargray.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.9) with ESMTPA id 99747176 for tigers@autox.team.net; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 15:21:28 -0400 From: "James Pickard" To: "Tiger List" Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 15:20:55 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac66JFshmC4cYIrvQryuQj/jbOLq4Q== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] No Brake Lights Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I have no brake lights. The rear tail lights and turn signals work, so bulbs or ground are not the issue. I can't find anything electrical associated with the brake pedal. What actually activates the brake lights? Thanks! BTW, Tigger was accepted for the Hilton Head Concours, first weekend of November. Jim Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 13:29:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14FF140454 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:29:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.frii.com (magicmail02.frii.com [216.17.135.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 012954041A for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:28:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 17149 invoked from network); 25 Sep 2013 19:28:08 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail.frii.com) (bobdixon@frii.com@127.0.0.1) by mail1.frii.com with SMTP (9b9ab852-2618-11e3-995b-2fa0672f21da); Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:28:08 -0600 Received: from 107-1-64-82-ip-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net ([107.1.64.82]) by mail.frii.com with HTTP (HTTP/1.1 POST); Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:28:08 -0600 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:28:08 -0600 From: To: James Pickard References: <011601ceba24$6d67c7f0$483757d0$@com> User-Agent: Tuxedo/0.1 Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] No Brake Lights Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net It's a hydraulic switch that activates with brake pressure. If your Tigger is stock it will be down on the front passenger wheelwell where the brake lines all meet. On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 15:20:55 -0400, "James Pickard" wrote: > I have no brake lights. The rear tail lights and turn signals work, so > bulbs > or ground are not the issue. I can't find anything electrical associated > with the brake pedal. What actually activates the brake lights? Thanks! > > > > BTW, Tigger was accepted for the Hilton Head Concours, first weekend of > November. > > > > Jim Pickard > > B9473298 > > Beaufort, SC > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/bobdixon@frii.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 13:31:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A614044E for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:31:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from tx2outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (tx2ehsobe004.messaging.microsoft.com [65.55.88.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 046814041A for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:31:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail120-tx2-R.bigfish.com (10.9.14.232) by TX2EHSOBE006.bigfish.com (10.9.40.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.22; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:30:25 +0000 Received: from mail120-tx2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail120-tx2-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5EF4C008D; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:30:25 +0000 (UTC) H:edgetransport.garmin.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: pass (mail120-tx2: domain of dynastream.com designates 204.77.163.11 as permitted sender) client-ip=204.77.163.11; envelope-from=Theo.Smit@dynastream.com; helo=edgetransport.garmin.com ;t.garmin.com ; Received: from mail120-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail120-tx2 (MessageSwitch) id 1380137422305037_9711; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TX2EHSMHS013.bigfish.com (unknown [10.9.14.253]) by mail120-tx2.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37DEF2004B; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:30:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edgetransport.garmin.com (204.77.163.11) by TX2EHSMHS013.bigfish.com (10.9.99.113) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.227.3; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:30:21 +0000 Received: from OLAWPA-EXHT06.ad.garmin.com (10.2.0.28) by edgetransport.garmin.com (192.168.18.224) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.347.0; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:30:39 -0500 Received: from OLAWPA-EXMB06.ad.garmin.com ([169.254.5.186]) by olawpa-exht06.ad.garmin.com ([10.2.0.28]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:30:19 -0500 From: "Smit, Theo" To: "bobdixon@frii.com" , James Pickard Thread-Topic: [Tigers] No Brake Lights Thread-Index: Ac66JFshmC4cYIrvQryuQj/jbOLq4QAKurgAAApx+UA= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:30:19 +0000 References: <011601ceba24$6d67c7f0$483757d0$@com> <4718ec67bf3c29c5ca771127206c51f7@127.0.0.1> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.5.143.129] Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] No Brake Lights Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net It could still be a wiring issue, since the brake/taillight bulbs have separate filaments for the brake function. But, as Bob suggests, the hydraulic switch is the most likely culprit. I've converted my Tiger to use a roller lever switch that actuates off the brake pedal itself. Theo > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers- > bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of bobdixon@frii.com > Sent: September 25, 2013 1:28 PM > To: James Pickard > Cc: Tiger List > Subject: Re: [Tigers] No Brake Lights > > It's a hydraulic switch that activates with brake pressure. If your > Tigger is stock it will be down on the front passenger wheelwell where > the brake lines all meet. > > On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 15:20:55 -0400, "James Pickard" > > wrote: > > I have no brake lights. The rear tail lights and turn signals work, > so > > bulbs or ground are not the issue. I can't find anything electrical > > associated with the brake pedal. What actually activates the brake > > lights? 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Thank you. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 13:37:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0405440424 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:37:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 476564041A for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:33:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta005.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r8PJVG9a007500; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 12:32:57 -0700 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 401896cd) id dm0213.523928c3.ea18a; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 12:32:56 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'James Pickard'" , "'Tiger List'" Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 15:32:43 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac66JFshmC4cYIrvQryuQj/jbOLq4QAAVG7g engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-25_09:2013-09-25,2013-09-25,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309250110 Subject: Re: [Tigers] No Brake Lights Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jim There is a hydraulic pressure switch at the 5 way brake line connector; front right under the hood. Jumper the wires there and see if you have brake lights. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Pickard Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 3:21 PM To: Tiger List Subject: [Tigers] No Brake Lights I have no brake lights. The rear tail lights and turn signals work, so bulbs or ground are not the issue. I can't find anything electrical associated with the brake pedal. What actually activates the brake lights? Thanks! BTW, Tigger was accepted for the Hilton Head Concours, first weekend of November. Jim Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4117 / Virus Database: 3604/6694 - Release Date: 09/24/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 14:02:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4EC40454 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:02:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from ent-mocinrl09.gannett.com (ent-mocinrl09.gannett.com [159.54.39.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DBC14041A for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:02:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ENT-MOCEXHC02.us.ad.gannett.com (unknown [172.20.1.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ent-mocinrl09.gannett.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1C1539DB67; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:01:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ENT-MOCEXCMB05.us.ad.gannett.com ([fe80::5d98:601a:f044:d018]) by ENT-MOCEXHC02.us.ad.gannett.com ([172.20.1.48]) with mapi; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:01:28 -0400 From: "Teepen, Jere" To: "rfraser@bluefrog.com" , 'James Pickard' , 'Tiger List' Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:01:59 -0400 Thread-Topic: [Tigers] No Brake Lights Thread-Index: Ac66JFshmC4cYIrvQryuQj/jbOLq4QAAVG7gAAEJjjA= References: <011601ceba24$6d67c7f0$483757d0$@com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Tigers] No Brake Lights Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net If it is the switch, they can occasionally be brought back to life spraying heavily with brake cleaner into the switch. Worth a try for ten minutes worth of effort. -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fraser Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 12:33 PM To: 'James Pickard'; 'Tiger List' Subject: Re: [Tigers] No Brake Lights Jim There is a hydraulic pressure switch at the 5 way brake line connector; front right under the hood. Jumper the wires there and see if you have brake lights. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Pickard Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 3:21 PM To: Tiger List Subject: [Tigers] No Brake Lights I have no brake lights. The rear tail lights and turn signals work, so bulbs or ground are not the issue. I can't find anything electrical associated with the brake pedal. What actually activates the brake lights? Thanks! BTW, Tigger was accepted for the Hilton Head Concours, first weekend of November. Jim Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 14:07:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A68F40454 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:07:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f42.google.com (mail-la0-f42.google.com [209.85.215.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EC614041A for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:07:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f42.google.com with SMTP id ep20so150153lab.29 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:06:31 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Cn+yRqBbRU4s34XPACtLsYTLWlsL2Vh5DceiQdXgq/I=; b=eTwvjUcInUDoztIakE2XDtgND7TAi/EIHEZMRymkXJfGg7kxwSG5e4Tg0xWvTyO6eZ fdmUUavM2uUB48SuOemSrHq4u8+t/WEe5NCQWqFFR01LEmvOrMsrxLHEc9lN0Faj55E9 n+jz+pQf8X7oWuBGIlUI9ndT9nroA3eqebpEWW361r5mcpBlmmGPgeG9saYJi9chrgVJ gdwaPMW6Orv5teV0d9qQDjQ7v+INWdbdKuS42EIHvK5AjzhfLBLzSiEpamDMUDDaexef JqapDY0BdgYXecags/aJy/jmDRXtbn+CKoveaWFX4fLylWxmNhgIDN5KdJXRKJTujpTV 4wzA== vu6mr675440lbb.41.1380139591552; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.204.69 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.204.69 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:06:31 -0700 (PDT) References: <011601ceba24$6d67c7f0$483757d0$@com> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:06:31 -0400 From: "michael@michaelshortt.com" To: James Pickard Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] No Brake Lights Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net There is a brakelight switch there, it is hydraulic and built into the brake lines. Its a big deal to replace it. The common solution is to install a mechanical switch on the pedal assembly. Here's some info. http://www.sunbeamalpine.org/forum/archive/index.php?t-13621.html Michael Shortt I have no brake lights. The rear tail lights and turn signals work, so bulbs or ground are not the issue. I can't find anything electrical associated with the brake pedal. What actually activates the brake lights? Thanks! BTW, Tigger was accepted for the Hilton Head Concours, first weekend of November. Jim Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael@michaelshortt.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 14:23:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D36F40514 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:23:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qe0-f49.google.com (mail-qe0-f49.google.com [209.85.128.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7137E4041A for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:20:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qe0-f49.google.com with SMTP id s14so144088qeb.36 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:20:12 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=dSi4DurruEao8VUL1SqAsFsdRKCVqWooUZQQ+sW++7Y=; b=dsriGeYG0HUMk0ZcYYaZNMqZ7IVC4RepLZK+Wz/sy/kS3gtGVjbIRrvlapCU6q7fMk Qzjp5D9nh/GSetoXdM8JMV432y0qHu1UBOTjPcGh345nfNiMehyq1ltpTYpgUpkrRskU hRidMwylV8+X2eMAaFk32hbwa8TFQNbaL8V9o/SV5ScBCqdV0h5O11dXbEMspt7spDTd khvKVfa/432TmIXsLdAYkwiKrJqDQ1+3PyeOO68M6aldZ3AEthwIjnt/aNUXD8jn/fdi 4XqK8F2sv0JLw60aKOCjBvXO+YK0I0k3F2DqPqDCwj306c6//X3Xl93P7ynOzUARJmWG ZW0w== m8mr5014538qen.25.1380140412399; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:20:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.122.74 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 13:20:12 -0700 (PDT) References: <011601ceba24$6d67c7f0$483757d0$@com> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:20:12 -0400 From: Tom Parker To: michael@michaelshortt.com Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] No Brake Lights Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mentioned before... wiring. check it. Carefully, and check the ground resistance from the bulb sockets to frame ground. Ron's right, first step, jumper the wires at the switch and check the lights. Rick at SS carries the switch. Paul Sheahan taught me well although I've never had to use it; I bought two switches just in case. Tom '67 Mark 2 On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:06 PM, michael@michaelshortt.com < michaelsavga@gmail.com> wrote: > There is a brakelight switch there, it is hydraulic and built into the > brake lines. > Its a big deal to replace it. The common solution is to install a > mechanical switch on the pedal assembly. > Here's some info. > http://www.sunbeamalpine.org/forum/archive/index.php?t-13621.html > > Michael Shortt > I have no brake lights. The rear tail lights and turn signals work, so > bulbs > or ground are not the issue. I can't find anything electrical associated > with the brake pedal. What actually activates the brake lights? Thanks! > > > > BTW, Tigger was accepted for the Hilton Head Concours, first weekend of > November. > > > > Jim Pickard > > B9473298 > > Beaufort, SC > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael@michaelshortt.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 14:31:09 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A545E40511 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:31:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from ent-mocinrl08.gannett.com (ent-mocinrl08.gannett.com [159.54.39.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D7224041A for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 14:30:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ENT-MOCEXHC02.us.ad.gannett.com (unknown [172.20.1.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ent-mocinrl08.gannett.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0392D5F82; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:30:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ENT-MOCEXCMB05.us.ad.gannett.com ([fe80::5d98:601a:f044:d018]) by ENT-MOCEXHC02.us.ad.gannett.com ([172.20.1.48]) with mapi; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:30:04 -0400 From: "Teepen, Jere" To: "michael@michaelshortt.com" , James Pickard Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:30:07 -0400 Thread-Topic: [Tigers] No Brake Lights Thread-Index: Ac66KtLwUcomZnhxQ6umrO37ST48qAAArEKw References: <011601ceba24$6d67c7f0$483757d0$@com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] No Brake Lights Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Not sure I understand the "big deal to replace it" comment. This is a simple procedure. Just be sure to protect the paint from spillage when removing the switch. It takes a lot more effort to create a mount and change the wiring to facilitate a mechanical switch. Keep it simple. And yes, Rick at SS has the switch in the event the switch cannot be revived. -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of michael@michaelshortt.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 1:07 PM To: James Pickard Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] No Brake Lights There is a brakelight switch there, it is hydraulic and built into the brake lines. Its a big deal to replace it. The common solution is to install a mechanical switch on the pedal assembly. Here's some info. http://www.sunbeamalpine.org/forum/archive/index.php?t-13621.html Michael Shortt I have no brake lights. The rear tail lights and turn signals work, so bulbs or ground are not the issue. I can't find anything electrical associated with the brake pedal. What actually activates the brake lights? Thanks! BTW, Tigger was accepted for the Hilton Head Concours, first weekend of November. Jim Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 15:48:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A8B40444 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 15:48:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5204041D for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 15:47:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.73]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VWyZ1m0051afHeLA1Zn3Yk; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 21:47:03 +0000 Received: from sz0058.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id VZn31m00e2xZMJ48dZn3wo; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 21:47:03 +0000 Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 21:47:03 +0000 (UTC) From: genepadgett@comcast.net To: James Pickard s=q20121106; t=1380145623; bh=0xf6+8d851eeBYs5MnHsi2ADqei/PWFKa+Yg1eqmwvk=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=ds/Gq0khy1piCPevAedBUopnXoT8knXl6biGSredc8a50A2dEav248jO9L8UeeA0T TqZgV7C+FfcCLrYWWcnUyXCmBjCFCQca90zP2gRm48QUZcSscIDIXBt8XmQyWDhK14 Z1rs+ZWIVg1FPWSPIREkTncYAeoOlK+/7OzZ1od1978O24DTvqpb00ByMwvj1UrrCd WLjZnH1ZkcNQLE+N/7DqISden6bqzh2wJYog4nsgOdXZF6zP6j+AERnM5nBB9rqk74 EKsGNR+b2ACNYQq7OSYWJH349dSZXFZ+9l/pJXk0cS+Xw8RtSwh1CoAszqPzEjkHCr mXObLPasGOpqQ== Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] No Brake Lights Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Just a sidebar to the discussion: If this happens every few years or so, and you are using silicon brake fluid, there are some who say the fluid and the switch diaphragm react to each other and that over time the diaphragm degrades/is breached, causing switch failure. If this is happening, you might also want to change to a different brake fluid. Gene -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Tigers] No Brake Lights I have no brake lights. The rear tail lights and turn signals work, so bulbs or ground are not the issue. I can't find anything electrical associated with the brake pedal. What actually activates the brake lights? Thanks! BTW, Tigger was accepted for the Hilton Head Concours, first weekend of November. Jim Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/genepadgett@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 16:43:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3594044E for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:43:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from ivic0.sogetel.net (pop3.ivic.qc.ca [66.187.114.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5231140422 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:41:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ip160.125-126-74.sogetel.net ([74.126.125.160] helo=D7F0WHF1) by ivic0.sogetel.net with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VOxlV-000376-Qt for tigers@autox.team.net; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 18:41:01 -0400 From: "denis mercier" To: Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 18:41:14 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] T5 transmission Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All. I'm interested to install a 5 speed transmission in my Tiger and i would like to know if some of you use the T5 transmission ? I'm worried about the .63 ratio fifth gear (overdrive) because differential ratio in my car is a 2.88 Also .80 fifth gear is available (Tiger engineering) I would like to have some comments please. Thanks ! Denis. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 17:13:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 767DF40514 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:13:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f180.google.com (mail-ob0-f180.google.com [209.85.214.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38D2940422 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:10:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f180.google.com with SMTP id wm4so801123obc.39 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:10:05 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=/GBd8z5/PywPX2ZcHgGJWFnPgoEaI4DaGVItQxYoKs8=; b=wk5dPAlDODhJl21pGatEbtEsyGifPx1VxU6mk9qHYNgJExb2WxwBVeSCcxRU6G+r8d NTpdPtBHUttTVZhefs7iEiIlSJAAZglSphIhor4e7zQVdljniu35nvCOzcbXh4Snztni JYcbUr+NA7DSPq2V6VEOZCht0twMnd2x4yTdcg2I/zRUgY73wc0y7j9iTuCsiqT5sljh EuqifCzhe7g5oRPE204ST50fH1u0ft//wAifz8CxCic10kgKg51L3pgZNWpVmSwTdSZr NozvBgd15PJ9bo5PDbKgry8GvIifqxIT/P9w1rBV2zessg7RDp55NcGbsQBHYgwRig+S bWOQ== g4mr8435925obt.47.1380150605270; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.34.196 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:10:05 -0700 (PDT) References: <1380036595.5872.YahooMailNeo@web161005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <8D0881CB902F458-1E44-2F24@Webmail-m111.sysops.aol.com> <1380135147.29982.YahooMailNeo@web161002.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:10:05 +1000 From: michael king To: snakebit289 Cc: "jacranwell@aol.com" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] [Alpines] Hemmings Harrington 'A' for sale, big bucks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I think, in the case of the dealer selling the Harrington A, someone is trying to recoup their restoration cost. It begs the advice that classic car dealers tell people. Don't buy a car and restore it, hoping to get your investment back. Buy the most complete car you can afford, and let a previous owner lose money on a restoration. > > Rande Bellman > > in the case of the Harrington the restorer was a couple of owners back.. so they are not trying to get their money back on the work done. Also I can assure you the asking price falls WELL short of the money spent on that vehicle.... that car was done to be as good as Bill could have it and just how he wanted it.. recouping the costs was never an option. -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 17:47:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C526740449 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:47:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp451.redcondor.net (smtp451.redcondor.net [208.80.204.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A2EF40441 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:47:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hargray.com ([64.203.254.40]) by smtp451.redcondor.net ({64f3d0f0-9a92-47a2-ba77-ce0798423d5d}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20130925234622425; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 23:46:22 +0000 Received: from [199.241.211.241] (account geowiz@hargray.com HELO JamesPickardPC) by fe01.hargray.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.9) with ESMTPA id 24717158; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:46:16 -0400 From: "James Pickard" To: , "'Tiger List'" References: <011601ceba24$6d67c7f0$483757d0$@com> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 19:46:31 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac66JFshmC4cYIrvQryuQj/jbOLq4QAAVG7gAAja3kA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Tigers] No Brake Lights Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks, Ron. You nailed it. Connected the two wires, turned on the ignition, and viola, brake lights. New part is on its way from SS. Thanks to all the others who responded as well. JEP -----Original Message----- From: Ron Fraser [mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 3:33 PM To: 'James Pickard'; 'Tiger List' Subject: RE: [Tigers] No Brake Lights Jim There is a hydraulic pressure switch at the 5 way brake line connector; front right under the hood. Jumper the wires there and see if you have brake lights. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Pickard Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 3:21 PM To: Tiger List Subject: [Tigers] No Brake Lights I have no brake lights. The rear tail lights and turn signals work, so bulbs or ground are not the issue. I can't find anything electrical associated with the brake pedal. What actually activates the brake lights? Thanks! BTW, Tigger was accepted for the Hilton Head Concours, first weekend of November. Jim Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4117 / Virus Database: 3604/6692 - Release Date: 09/23/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 17:49:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31A9E40514 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:49:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f175.google.com (mail-vc0-f175.google.com [209.85.220.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ADD240441 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 17:48:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id ia10so310780vcb.20 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:48:05 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=c/h+Yi7aYXtVhk5mSotQCSg7VGcpBrorqWjWTEBXnrA=; b=HJpM5PBpzsxuGXohYy36Yh5OwRMM3Ut2+Fx9DG8Vy+8//bCVb2tTVKm233Vi07PS0T bUfrN0ebC2KS7W8943fsF7L/f4M6bhuW9mu7yQaaIKJpWyPeW3GUsr1Yv3cy+OySk5e5 xEJcLtlF9p2UQ+zaezSscX6uMcbBxPxbvSJvyNaVWSp4dm2kpWWA07OT+/Nw37jHxpvW utuSDAVNkNmBvCPaf2nJkjKOjVduxMHaHypQIIUWVJXoG6Zw/NmKXfM0maFRYEeCXrJ9 kAUpftmezg2KJAgMh2Dwa4VaUk3c+WoHnnwsoxpBZ5/4e8lHWJQYzGYziNxw7JsDHJJ3 PL1w== ku11mr32084vdb.42.1380152885670; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.143.11 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:48:05 -0700 (PDT) References: <011601ceba24$6d67c7f0$483757d0$@com> <013f01ceba49$764ab6f0$62e024d0$@com> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 16:48:05 -0700 From: Jay Laifman To: James Pickard Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] No Brake Lights Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Again, just a warning. Keep checking. The one I got from SS did not last very long. And this is with LMA. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:46 PM, James Pickard wrote: > Thanks, Ron. You nailed it. Connected the two wires, turned on the > ignition, > and viola, brake lights. New part is on its way from SS. > > Thanks to all the others who responded as well. > > JEP > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ron Fraser [mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com] > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 3:33 PM > To: 'James Pickard'; 'Tiger List' > Subject: RE: [Tigers] No Brake Lights > > Jim > There is a hydraulic pressure switch at the 5 way brake line > connector; front right under the hood. > > Jumper the wires there and see if you have brake lights. > > Ron Fraser > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of James Pickard > Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 3:21 PM > To: Tiger List > Subject: [Tigers] No Brake Lights > > > I have no brake lights. The rear tail lights and turn signals work, so > bulbs > or ground are not the issue. I can't find anything electrical associated > with the brake pedal. What actually activates the brake lights? Thanks! > > > > BTW, Tigger was accepted for the Hilton Head Concours, first weekend of > November. > > > > Jim Pickard > > B9473298 > > Beaufort, SC > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4117 / Virus Database: 3604/6692 - Release Date: 09/23/13 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 20:33:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E95DE40453 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 20:33:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm30.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm30.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECA440440 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 20:29:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.182] by nm30.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Sep 2013 22:52:04 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.214] by tm18.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Sep 2013 22:52:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1022.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Sep 2013 22:52:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 29145 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Sep 2013 22:52:03 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380149523; bh=1AzaD8x0cqQDK5ndrm7NQ6PMA78s97W01O3YxeN5QnI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=v/ik/N8xZEV2zxGbNgDS//s+isdPzgOmUk7pYes5Ace25NdUT0xgumigk5GFqQdXzL1Rhy6URGAUBcZ24i8JYW0sQxbX4WiSoUsqmaRmwSNwlYx0GPkAc4oUxFOzy0IitsQyhUshTDrMGC87Fvz6XectAprLgOEBM5oWQJmQb/Y= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=h3N0HSfssxUAsvKZNjidRRTm68rRf63zy8ev2hEuNwBA3e9HlArRjJ0n2oYxDZ/2roWmL/sFAvG4gSupDAat8o4Frz8Ru0EZjJ9NrAMChU5Kc1/5YtXNUhuI6AdW8dhfMTF0HljqiiNPVu/KHsULeW0ogDmSa6glYFYrrqZ/eiE=; Q7dkOYlvOqlFYE2v8WNT8CliPcIiK7do47lbV4jMGq4r6HhT826thT9fTlEc Mhh90hUcKObtA42AYQMs5s9gWWRpg9LsFPQ1yfh2OgEA8_eg_tJyO1ZRMbSb 8mXXoJaAf3tICj8yQPZaQhA_YGZcMvSRMggy5JMCJnGHmX6y6VmGckLbkmoh yJw1CJO1eYEIPwswrAOXoSYzkEOTmXrNStF7FhFPxoJx66PSZdJ4bu.HQTpu 6rGFSuKB_GVdv5Q_spkHpNd6xocVijXSs2pgSDvbByduhsPG2IhBeQIP6Xn3 uuoVQcuktzIos7gtzT_Gf4hwU4SzSqsS9sHgyGavPUTEelZfa4PpBSONywX3 wLyxtGNnfBYQgtAhr4fnizFzysmkdSkE56.jtPpMnJMplB6m6_FWvkzXrdn0 UvvjUJ8kYTwmEs.g51OtigN.PJUGRIEefBxfrCbEd5xn6THb3EDtecgg6qAk wvrnQL.ZA66CyO4uKGt8ZWR9tVB.e27JBr54mmMo3gPTDR4oL_12v66xvtr8 _E7GF18abHE4Fcyvn184WJQDFKAdQqWedaVhGUxC5LOv11c77q0CFLtpltdV XwySpXphAs52nZ1NIUMlsRodynE_2oYM- Received: from [97.93.177.222] by web121903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 15:52:03 PDT SSBoYXZlIGl0IHdpdGggNXRoIGdlYXIgY29udmVydGVkIHRvIDAuODoxIGFuZCBhIDMuMzEgZGlmZi4gSWYgSSB3ZXJlIGRvaW5nIGl0IG92ZXIsIEknZCBsaWtlbHkgc3RpY2sgd2l0aCAwLjYzOjEgNXRoIGdlYXIgZm9yIG1vcmUgcmVsYXhlZCByZWFsIHdvcmxkIHVzZSBhbmQgYmV0dGVyIGdhcyBtaWxlYWdlLgoKU3RlcGhlbiBXYXlicmlnaHQKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogZGVuaXMgbWVyY2llciA8ZGVuaXNtZXJjaWVyQHRlbHZpYy5uZXQ.ClRvOiB0aWdlcnMBMAEBAQE- References: <20882C372F7C4602936DEFFD801EDBC5@D7F0WHF1> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 15:52:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Stephen Waybright To: denis mercier , "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] T5 transmission Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I have it with 5th gear converted to 0.8:1 and a 3.31 diff. If I were doing it over, I'd likely stick with 0.63:1 5th gear for more relaxed real world use and better gas mileage. Stephen Waybright ________________________________ From: denis mercier To: tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:41 PM Subject: [Tigers] T5 transmission Hi All. I'm interested to install a 5 speed transmission in my Tiger and i would like to know if some of you use the T5 transmission ? I'm worried about the .63 ratio fifth gear (overdrive) because differential ratio in my car is a 2.88 Also .80 fifth gear is available (Tiger engineering) I would like to have some comments please. Thanks ! Denis. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/gswaybright@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 21:27:54 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE1540528 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 21:27:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A1240510 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 21:26:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004962.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r8Q3MO0s019269; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 20:27:42 -0700 Received: by dm0219.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a206) id dm0219.523928b3.f17d7; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 20:26:03 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.145.123]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 03:25:55 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'James Pickard'" , "'Tiger List'" Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 23:25:51 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac66JFshmC4cYIrvQryuQj/jbOLq4QAAVG7gAAja3kAAB3uHoA== engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-26_02:2013-09-26,2013-09-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309250185 Subject: Re: [Tigers] No Brake Lights Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jim One basic problem with the pressure switch is the pressure needed to activate it. Light braking generally does not activate the switch or the brake lights I tried a low pressure switch once which worked with light braking but it crapped out too. I installed an electrical switch on the pedal for quicker brake light activation and for safety reasons. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: James Pickard [mailto:geowiz@hargray.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:47 PM To: rfraser@bluefrog.com; 'Tiger List' Subject: RE: [Tigers] No Brake Lights Thanks, Ron. You nailed it. Connected the two wires, turned on the ignition, and viola, brake lights. New part is on its way from SS. Thanks to all the others who responded as well. JEP -----Original Message----- From: Ron Fraser [mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 3:33 PM To: 'James Pickard'; 'Tiger List' Subject: RE: [Tigers] No Brake Lights Jim There is a hydraulic pressure switch at the 5 way brake line connector; front right under the hood. Jumper the wires there and see if you have brake lights. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Pickard Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 3:21 PM To: Tiger List Subject: [Tigers] No Brake Lights I have no brake lights. The rear tail lights and turn signals work, so bulbs or ground are not the issue. I can't find anything electrical associated with the brake pedal. What actually activates the brake lights? Thanks! BTW, Tigger was accepted for the Hilton Head Concours, first weekend of November. Jim Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4117 / Virus Database: 3604/6692 - Release Date: 09/23/13 ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4117 / Virus Database: 3604/6694 - Release Date: 09/24/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 25 22:20:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F4140422 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 22:20:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f180.google.com (mail-qc0-f180.google.com [209.85.216.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED1DF40381 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 22:19:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id p19so423266qcv.11 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 21:18:26 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=vDrGS853BKR6wzV9BRM5uWRiYEnSvyAHLI5gQ3iTEd4=; b=nlrhJuzEX33OBoOkivosODvFUKGM84ZX9ljlIhKx1THRMRN5ujq/oLlRDL6Iof2nYZ 4dewOSEXdyOUv0wXBHmt6kf8UfFgXMvdXSm/seYRcLlmWRR8IIikGGmmyN3+oUJzXABN RUOQm4Ydoskep2yaPM66RjEJR7DXGlR32O7WbLwZb5tksQJlylMI1wvThnGhRl9hLrp/ KHzAKxCMicFKTEaUnYU7p/Zp+2oHxzgQemwrWUuKtggUmsunaA2yA7kxI7RLBuo4jwN9 VX2bgJDm+0dUIUiLsV/kToO3I7QDhJRwMU8zovOvcmkY18xzDJDtESAQR1c1BZ/zCDqO z5yA== b7mr6974760qew.85.1380169106151; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 21:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.116.81 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Sep 2013 21:18:26 -0700 (PDT) References: <20882C372F7C4602936DEFFD801EDBC5@D7F0WHF1> Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 21:18:26 -0700 From: Cliff Alexander To: denis mercier Cc: tigers Subject: Re: [Tigers] T5 transmission Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I have a Tiger Engineering 5 speed that Ibve have had since 2007 and it has a .63 overdrive, I ran it for a couple of years with the 2.88 and it drove just fine. I should also point out that I put a 302 crate motor at the same time. I have since installed a 3.07 posi and it is great. With the 3.07bs at 2000 RPM it is 70 MPH, down the road, nice and relaxed. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 3:41 PM, denis mercier wrote: > Hi All. > I'm interested to install a 5 speed transmission in my Tiger and i would > like > to know if some of you use the T5 transmission ? I'm worried about the .63 > ratio fifth gear > (overdrive) because differential ratio in my car is a 2.88 Also .80 fifth > gear is available (Tiger engineering) > I would like to have some comments please. > Thanks ! > Denis. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mk1a67@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 26 04:00:03 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 736B340514 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 04:00:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4825D403EF for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 03:59:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Vlx51m0010EZKEL5Dlz4Jd; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:59:04 +0000 Received: from sz0225.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Vlz41m00d2ymm843Mlz4xw; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:59:04 +0000 Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 09:59:04 +0000 (UTC) From: tym2@comcast.net To: Lou Santaniello s=q20121106; t=1380189544; bh=zSCM51CJx1CnJVMHDz9qUjKSFuTOwfipnoYCxq6ILt0=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=GO6Mq3ezKciUwvQQyUK30WUZFocj3SiO3f3/j6mgwD/kW/eaHmDVrBXrseiLXvtZb q2LrnsvEpHtvahghBB/czg4yT8plMf5LBhu1p8wjalzZUdUOoQeVAWRjejLGRJOKeT Wg3eTurhHjjVO3kE7qwQx6A5Kl2s6bSkCqpYO2oXASOceSk754gOWz9vNOzQrR3CO6 LATQFoBHvxvr95oEH1FH+UW3Fd289tWYOysAXtHaGerkL8d8ab75HYxGk00Uzi5o0W zipj74YcaRyHY2t9omztHDxkljwJJ4DJm8Og9dYeCMQ5uP4vJBZ6gSfTqdI75QT6zw o7esjrQ10+fUg== Cc: Tiger's List Subject: [Tigers] "Tiger's List " ; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Lou, Try this: tigers@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 26 08:19:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D7040523 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 08:19:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail3.everyone.net [216.200.145.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53AD04044E for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 08:19:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta004.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r8QEEdwN024098; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 07:18:15 -0700 Received: by dm0224.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4018963b) id dm0224.523928a6.101db9; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 07:18:12 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: , "'James Pickard'" Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 10:18:00 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac66KtXgy7zD+VrsROSY3CvnfJi2ZQAlqlKA engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-09-26_05:2013-09-26,2013-09-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1309260066 Cc: 'Tiger List' Subject: Re: [Tigers] No Brake Lights Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Michael That is interesting reading on the Alpine Forum. I like the idea of putting an Ohm meter on the brake switch and pushing the brake pedal to see the meter move. 1 - this give you the resistance of the switch and if it is activating 2 - it gives you an understanding of how much brake pressure and pedal position is needed to actuate the switch 3 - this test should also be done with the engine running so the brake booster has vacuum to see if the brake pedal position changes for activating the switch. Smacking the brake switch to make it work; I think is a short term possible fix, but useful if it get you home with brake lights working. I have a switch at the pedal on my Tiger. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of michael@michaelshortt.com Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:07 PM To: James Pickard Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] No Brake Lights There is a brakelight switch there, it is hydraulic and built into the brake lines. Its a big deal to replace it. The common solution is to install a mechanical switch on the pedal assembly. Here's some info. http://www.sunbeamalpine.org/forum/archive/index.php?t-13621.html Michael Shortt I have no brake lights. The rear tail lights and turn signals work, so bulbs or ground are not the issue. I can't find anything electrical associated with the brake pedal. What actually activates the brake lights? Thanks! BTW, Tigger was accepted for the Hilton Head Concours, first weekend of November. Jim Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 26 13:45:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88FF34052A for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:45:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2578940435 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:45:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id rp2so1584480pbb.28 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 12:44:29 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=1laSR7K4iOOAkJN5NV3zzcsjkZOCDlt/NoaA+ZLXrJA=; b=gJ5+4SP0dHLuqCtaD0UDo7IhQN81q+qHa7k17RlONgcHyZcBc0t3vfgGLnpJvLgtUx jFxP3B5gHYCOp+VT4F9GwgEVHLmjcWk2Trtgukm71aZBYcYibQlbwt0eBpwTKh55qLF0 0u3PMDIxu3UZc7XSG8nk7pTyJGpcTxgDuy7MRcvbCbsRyTn4z0AATsgi5cLQ2CTTvVME ffc6orqdjQiMzHYywGOgG0w99lYVX9Pmt1d8pSRg0KIku3azFqcjr7zssPkR+KR1IXX8 0/sTfITNQ57NOO71ScA6orBQ4IMHeHFFIlD/5yBfI0iEYMFpuk4mA8L3xe54yvmKCoCP 508A== e8mr3141475pba.132.1380224669091; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 12:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.126.197 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 12:44:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:44:29 -0500 From: Cullen McCann To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] another custom tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net this one is a real tiger, I remember some of the details on it. Dale Akuszewski built the car for a customer and I think the relationship went south at the end. Interestingly these images are the exact same ones from when it was last for sale....at least 5 or 6 years ago. I remember because the car intrigued me before my opinion changed about what I wanted to build. There was some talk about it being an Alpine, but that was in an attempt to devalue the car I believe. In either case...another show of the impressive craftsmenship abilities of Dales Restorations. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181226158121&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1120#ht_500wt_1182 Cullen TAC 840 Alpine 260 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 26 14:03:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 236C14053C for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:03:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from tx2outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (tx2ehsobe001.messaging.microsoft.com [65.55.88.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355F640435 for ; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:03:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail75-tx2-R.bigfish.com (10.9.14.227) by TX2EHSOBE012.bigfish.com (10.9.40.32) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.22; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:02:42 +0000 Received: from mail75-tx2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail75-tx2-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F733C0203; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:02:42 +0000 (UTC) H:edgetransport.garmin.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: pass (mail75-tx2: domain of dynastream.com designates 204.77.163.11 as permitted sender) client-ip=204.77.163.11; envelope-from=Theo.Smit@dynastream.com; helo=edgetransport.garmin.com ;t.garmin.com ; Received: from mail75-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail75-tx2 (MessageSwitch) id 1380225723923085_5711; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:02:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TX2EHSMHS008.bigfish.com (unknown [10.9.14.254]) by mail75-tx2.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A3424004F; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:02:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edgetransport.garmin.com (204.77.163.11) by TX2EHSMHS008.bigfish.com (10.9.99.108) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.227.3; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:01:59 +0000 Received: from OLAWPA-EXHT05.ad.garmin.com (10.5.143.145) by edgetransport.garmin.com (192.168.18.220) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.347.0; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 15:01:52 -0500 Received: from OLAWPA-EXMB06.ad.garmin.com ([169.254.5.186]) by OLAWPA-EXHT05.ad.garmin.com ([10.5.143.145]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Thu, 26 Sep 2013 15:01:57 -0500 From: "Smit, Theo" To: Cullen McCann , "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] another custom tiger Thread-Index: AQHOuvDaE0b/d1rHuUWcZTzqWd5uOpnYb4dw Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:01:56 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.5.143.129] Subject: Re: [Tigers] another custom tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I've been out of circulation too much to see this car even though it's been a local for a couple of years now... I also apparently missed the Harrington Tiger coming to the European Car show this July: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sherlock77/9346271401/. I know the Dale A car has been locally owned but I don't know what brought the Harrington here or where it's owner is located. If I win the lottery on Friday maybe I'll put in a bid on Dale's Tiger... Theo > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers- > bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Cullen McCann > Sent: September 26, 2013 1:44 PM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] another custom tiger > > this one is a real tiger, I remember some of the details on it. Dale > Akuszewski built the car for a customer and I think the relationship > went south at the end. Interestingly these images are the exact same > ones from when it was last for sale....at least 5 or 6 years ago. I > remember because the car intrigued me before my opinion changed about > what I wanted to build. > > There was some talk about it being an Alpine, but that was in an > attempt to devalue the car I believe. > > In either case...another show of the impressive craftsmenship abilities > of Dales Restorations. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181226158 > 121&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1120#ht_500wt_1182 > > > Cullen > TAC 840 > Alpine 260 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/theo.smit@dynastream.com > > ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. 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Thank you. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 27 20:08:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3D540E1D for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 20:08:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cmta10.telus.net (cmta10.telus.net [209.171.16.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D4B140E1C for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 20:07:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.74] ([209.89.36.167]) by cmta10.telus.net with TELUS id WS6s1m00C3cNJ9M01S6t6U; Fri, 27 Sep 2013 20:06:54 -0600 a=GqxcHtfpyleJzmv+/P79aQ==:17 a=UIdm24C_LI4A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Qm2X8ul6AAAA:8 a=nR2hC4aDb4oA:10 a=0TG3YA8zAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=gceyuhmBAAAA:8 a=NbHB2C0EAAAA:8 a=JAralIE_AAAA:8 a=0WhxYPkG0Nbqyr7Qe8QA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=N5av0Vp0_osA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=uZvyPsGTLYUA:10 a=R00NoKJ6Ywea4VD4:21 a=cBnURBZaBI-hzX7X:21 a=GqxcHtfpyleJzmv+/P79aQ==:117 References: From: Pointers Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2013 20:06:53 -0600 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] another custom tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net They profiled this one on a show a couple years back on Russo&Steele. Older gent & young lass bought it. Seller said he had "a ridiculous amount of money in it". In fact, quick search turned it up. Ridiculous=>$250K, according to this: http://www.russoandsteele.com/past-collector-car/1965-Sunbeam-Tiger/35 > On Sep 27, 2013, at 12:00 PM, tigers-request@autox.team.net wrote: > > Send Tigers mailing list submissions to > tigers@autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tigers-request@autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tigers-owner@autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. another custom tiger (Cullen McCann) > 2. Re: another custom tiger (Smit, Theo) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 14:44:29 -0500 > From: Cullen McCann > To: "tigers@autox.team.net" > Subject: [Tigers] another custom tiger > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > this one is a real tiger, I remember some of the details on it. Dale > Akuszewski built the car for a customer and I think the relationship went > south at the end. Interestingly these images are the exact same ones from > when it was last for sale....at least 5 or 6 years ago. I remember because > the car intrigued me before my opinion changed about what I wanted to build. > > There was some talk about it being an Alpine, but that was in an attempt to > devalue the car I believe. > > In either case...another show of the impressive craftsmenship abilities of > Dales Restorations. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181226158121&ss PageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1120#ht_500wt_1182 > > > Cullen > TAC 840 > Alpine 260 > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 20:01:56 +0000 > From: "Smit, Theo" > To: Cullen McCann , "tigers@autox.team.net" > > Subject: Re: [Tigers] another custom tiger > Message-ID: > <7495733F0DF7644CBABA4EA216EF4E151A23702F@OLAWPA-EXMB06.ad.garmin.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I've been out of circulation too much to see this car even though it's been a > local for a couple of years now... I also apparently missed the Harrington > Tiger coming to the European Car show this July: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/sherlock77/9346271401/. I know the Dale A car has > been locally owned but I don't know what brought the Harrington here or where > it's owner is located. If I win the lottery on Friday maybe I'll put in a bid > on Dale's Tiger... > > Theo > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers- >> bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Cullen McCann >> Sent: September 26, 2013 1:44 PM >> To: tigers@autox.team.net >> Subject: [Tigers] another custom tiger >> >> this one is a real tiger, I remember some of the details on it. Dale >> Akuszewski built the car for a customer and I think the relationship >> went south at the end. Interestingly these images are the exact same >> ones from when it was last for sale....at least 5 or 6 years ago. I >> remember because the car intrigued me before my opinion changed about >> what I wanted to build. >> >> There was some talk about it being an Alpine, but that was in an >> attempt to devalue the car I believe. >> >> In either case...another show of the impressive craftsmenship abilities >> of Dales Restorations. >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=181226158 >> 121&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1120#ht_500wt_1182 >> >> >> Cullen >> TAC 840 >> Alpine 260 >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/theo.smit@dynastream.com > > > ________________________________ > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of > the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential > and/or legally privileged. 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Thank you. > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Tigers mailing list > Tigers@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > > > End of Tigers Digest, Vol 5, Issue 329 > ************************************** _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 28 10:51:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9D0426B9 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 10:51:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cmta13.telus.net (cmta13.telus.net [209.171.16.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 947D0406A5 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 10:51:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.74] ([209.89.36.167]) by cmta13.telus.net with TELUS id WgqA1m00N3cNJ9M01gqAJC; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 10:50:11 -0600 a=GqxcHtfpyleJzmv+/P79aQ==:17 a=UIdm24C_LI4A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Qm2X8ul6AAAA:8 a=nR2hC4aDb4oA:10 a=0TG3YA8zAAAA:8 a=Dhl-f3EC1sNIPO39cPgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SZW4lLvtemsA:10 a=ISzb32Wwv5gA:10 a=E8KmhJJAHl4A:10 a=GqxcHtfpyleJzmv+/P79aQ==:117 References: <2DBF1E6B-E9C2-444A-B553-C5E112329586@telusplanet.net> From: Pointers Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 10:50:11 -0600 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] another custom tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hey, it's in Calgary. My turf. Is the seller a lister? If so, weigh in... > On Sep 27, 2013, at 8:06 PM, Pointers wrote: > > They profiled this one on a show a couple years back on Russo&Steele. > Older gent & young lass bought it. Seller said he had "a ridiculous amount of money in it". > In fact, quick search turned it up. Ridiculous=>$250K, according to this: > http://www.russoandsteele.com/past-collector-car/1965-Sunbeam-Tiger/35 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 28 11:15:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85BF42716 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 11:15:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f177.google.com (mail-ob0-f177.google.com [209.85.214.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C71542274 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 11:14:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f177.google.com with SMTP id wp18so4054553obc.36 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 10:13:14 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=0XPcmI1BVbv/Yd+fpm4yM6tJczbAni9uQYINuaCs2uM=; b=mF6GIsNGSQAm+5vmF+yGGTCp8/Ozw30m5VAIr2W85c6iXYP3LvH3bYNIfqc/Og8iEa rPyWXwJ1SZQXRbGi1sLaxXGgInaEx13RYMWUDA3pQUSDApId7gP2VKUyYb3YmadwmdLO K66LkliXV6jtZlEQEtwFUo8gACNzkZj/30n2vzQiyc5pxZdDT9OzWbFmYYkmFS+4ONau qr0LpgXEWTLX9ULo/sGY1gOWFFOv4Wplx35CsA5v/KW5yhK3bVU/EGJ69T4Pb+xUsWD0 sV8vj1DGBx0MU6A9re13u86QUdf+kbH/VS2hegE0elVdGAk5nPcm0ADlW8BlCMoRc10M ZHfQ== h16mr11416519oem.2.1380388394651; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 10:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.166.137.67] (189.sub-70-215-133.myvzw.com. [70.215.133.189]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bq4sm18219878obb.1.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 28 Sep 2013 10:13:13 -0700 (PDT) References: <2DBF1E6B-E9C2-444A-B553-C5E112329586@telusplanet.net> <0A2ADF64-0A95-4B7F-AEBE-861CFFF009A8@telusplanet.net> From: Cullen1972 Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 12:13:10 -0500 To: Pointers Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] another custom tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net By the way... I had noted it as a "real tiger" when I pointed out the car was for sale on eBay because i recall norman miller had commented on the car many years ago on this forum and stated it was. I specifically recall him making a point because it was being called "the worlds most modified alpine" and I have an email where he stated it was a Tiger and noted it by VIN. Furthermore, it still shows the exact same photos that were used when the car was on eBay before, even before Russo and Steele. (I never delete my emails) A TAC officer and member of stoa contacted me offline shortly after I made my opening comment and assured me there was no evidence to substantiate that the car was authentic... And -somewhat tactfully- requested that I curb my statements to avoid make such claims without proper documentation. So... Even though we have all been told a certain story as to the history of the car, which is well documented in the archives by 4 or 5 conversations over the years... This car has not been verified as a tiger through the TAC process. Or at least its vin and JAL identification have been compromised and it may it may not be the same car that was TAC'd prior to its customization at Dales shop. At least that's what I was told... Boldly I might add. For what it's worth. Cullen Alpine 260 TAC 840 Sent from my iPhone. > On Sep 28, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Pointers wrote: > > Hey, it's in Calgary. > My turf. > Is the seller a lister? > If so, weigh in... > >> On Sep 27, 2013, at 8:06 PM, Pointers wrote: >> >> They profiled this one on a show a couple years back on Russo&Steele. >> Older gent & young lass bought it. Seller said he had "a ridiculous amount > of money in it". >> In fact, quick search turned it up. Ridiculous=>$250K, according to this: >> http://www.russoandsteele.com/past-collector-car/1965-Sunbeam-Tiger/35 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmccann1972@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 28 13:37:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF5E4271A for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 13:37:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3CC342274 for ; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 13:34:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WjLc1m0020EPchoA4jZBas; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 19:33:11 +0000 Received: from sz0064.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id WjZB1m0042xZMJ48MjZBBv; Sat, 28 Sep 2013 19:33:11 +0000 Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 19:33:11 +0000 (UTC) From: Gary Winblad To: Cullen1972 s=q20121106; t=1380396791; bh=2ckh/3EeDg4T4fb3ujHxBN6hATMPtNIpwAxXSLGFSF8=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Px4PXx0I9j8/ZEpXjASyd406fGjD8qg3AXJMd8i8yecCkHPbGUZug7TYSaCPz8h/B SlGp7FZRzHRnWowy7UV6qXRtg/mxXbqQCIUIEfTNpW9EiOd/I6IhQRa7fKGOJxKhnk 2JkI4cN8C/XORqMjYgvk1HTAkvxFg1mh4cvvbsy6s+IPvrQCTXsEEWNO+cAn9VMcgx vRK8adLymcYEew1aZC0YFRO9GTxmrUUEffNKw+BQdxNm9yRpixFFDpj45pM9bT3+u3 YVhBrmYloi3okx0evBnOn1XGjqGkAqmNdu8L4oCSmocTl2iUXOSacuSwBJnbN6Zyvo yC5+KEb4Fh1qA== Cc: Pointers , tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] another custom tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hey, it's not "the worlds most modified alpine" it is a "HIGHLY MODIFIED Shelby"!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Cullen1972 To: Pointers Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 17:13:10 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Tigers] another custom tiger By the way... I had noted it as a "real tiger" when I pointed out the car was for sale on eBay because i recall norman miller had commented on the car many years ago on this forum and stated it was. I specifically recall him making a point because it was being called "the worlds most modified alpine" and I have an email where he stated it was a Tiger and noted it by VIN. Furthermore, it still shows the exact same photos that were used when the car was on eBay before, even before Russo and Steele. (I never delete my emails) A TAC officer and member of stoa contacted me offline shortly after I made my opening comment and assured me there was no evidence to substantiate that the car was authentic... And -somewhat tactfully- requested that I curb my statements to avoid make such claims without proper documentation. So... Even though we have all been told a certain story as to the history of the car, which is well documented in the archives by 4 or 5 conversations over the years... This car has not been verified as a tiger through the TAC process. Or at least its vin and JAL identification have been compromised and it may it may not be the same car that was TAC'd prior to its customization at Dales shop. At least that's what I was told... Boldly I might add. For what it's worth. Cullen Alpine 260 TAC 840 Sent from my iPhone. > On Sep 28, 2013, at 11:50 AM, Pointers wrote: > > Hey, it's in Calgary. > My turf. > Is the seller a lister? > If so, weigh in... > >> On Sep 27, 2013, at 8:06 PM, Pointers wrote: >> >> They profiled this one on a show a couple years back on Russo&Steele. >> Older gent & young lass bought it. Seller said he had "a ridiculous amount > of money in it". >> In fact, quick search turned it up. Ridiculous=>$250K, according to this: >> http://www.russoandsteele.com/past-collector-car/1965-Sunbeam-Tiger/35 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmccann1972@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 30 18:35:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFC7640424 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 18:35:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp451.redcondor.net (smtp451.redcondor.net [208.80.204.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC163403D4 for ; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 18:34:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hargray.com ([64.203.254.40]) by smtp451.redcondor.net ({64f3d0f0-9a92-47a2-ba77-ce0798423d5d}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20131001003342965 for ; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 00:33:42 +0000 Received: from [199.241.211.241] (account geowiz@hargray.com HELO JamesPickardPC) by fe01.hargray.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.9) with ESMTPA id 25615195 for tigers@autox.team.net; Mon, 30 Sep 2013 20:33:35 -0400 From: "James Pickard" To: "'Tiger List'" Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2013 20:33:52 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6+PedMdr3P/aSvQymFmNBsMZy2cw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Adjusting Doors Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I now have working brake lights. Now on to the next task as I prepare the car for the Hilton Head Concours. I want to make some minor adjustments to the doors (i.e. top of the passenger door sticks out a bit). Any words of wisdom before I use the trial & error method? Jim Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net