From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 12:35:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD22340424 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:35:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f44.google.com (mail-la0-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4790740400 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 12:34:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id eo20so6240797lab.17 for ; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 11:33:35 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=+H91RG6oV4lJAJhGDEl1EmuChmuSj0DU2/ryPQrDgWw=; b=V5PLNjbaXFjG0myBSjyzk7vXL9xJLt9TC/gIMB7RMsacof86JIwou/4V8VfkkiqK/q k6Hr48mPi0QC3+ibYsauj/Is3M1O0na9KZ2vRo8zIY0/Dvm2wKTFkYMclswdpXNKhETI y4IrR3IR6IGeRBUAxYFM5ZmuuFnxA0M+8Vy8p7mNZJLqrasIv/asQQnJNzuc+qLC6Ds4 LlebMmraF6S/7wt6DLHUt8uC2q8h31+hsiGUJ5Yhi9KW2GXqFqTBb+T6DYO4wWXVmFgZ 5F9ONLut6OCVWw/aFid9kk8XQq9JG5ghjtrDKVFj2nG2Mdcebo+rr5RvWE3ReyO+j4XB bACA== zx10mr27909645lbb.0.1380652414885; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 11:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.204.69 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 11:33:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "michael@michaelshortt.com" Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:33:04 -0400 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Jackets for the Holidays Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Now accepting new orders for the holiday season. 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Thank you _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 13:52:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38ED40441 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 13:52:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d04.mx.aol.com (omr-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.201]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C936840075 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 13:52:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by omr-d04.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 05F5470047BE5 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:51:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dqa001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.211.193]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 6AA0CE0000A0 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:51:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Rollright@aol.com Full-name: Rollright Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:51:33 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1380657093; bh=R/bf/dCcIfE74kSDHfM9ewzAEPgAL4U27RMYI3JIJPU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KydNRuAYA3Jk0HhV0X7QGhro9DtaGASJmO72Ls/Aqk2/BMnFKHkLnrDkQGNjGkGvk GFj1g1O19Ll+P2iwu66doqa5MXAFIKQ5lKpb3tkOkL8FPVtDvmFyg6WfGPytDN5SV1 MRL5C/oDm2C1Ghu9lRskpiY94GG+3fwz+8hnKvsE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc524b27c572e5 Subject: [Tigers] Window cleaning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hello, I'm sick of the results I get using Windex. I'm sure there are people with knowledge of a better glass cleaner. What's the hot set-up? Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE TAC 0763 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 15:01:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9748240444 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:01:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp451.redcondor.net (smtp451.redcondor.net [208.80.204.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54214041D for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:01:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hargray.com ([64.203.254.40]) by smtp451.redcondor.net ({64f3d0f0-9a92-47a2-ba77-ce0798423d5d}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20131001210026480 for ; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 21:00:26 +0000 Received: from [199.241.211.241] (account geowiz@hargray.com HELO JamesPickardPC) by fe01.hargray.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.9) with ESMTPA id 25803436 for tigers@autox.team.net; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 17:00:19 -0400 From: "James Pickard" To: "'Tiger List'" Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:00:36 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6+6UZ2O/mjn2GOS8q8uUFFxhy/GA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Grill trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I'm trying to mount the narrow chrome trim strip at the base of the grill opening. Mine was held in by 4 plastic clips that are disintegrating. I ordered a set from SS, and all I got were 4 rivets. How am I supposed to mount it using these? Thanks. James Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 15:08:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68A14041D for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:08:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f175.google.com (mail-ve0-f175.google.com [209.85.128.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 012704041D for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:03:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f175.google.com with SMTP id jy13so5661787veb.34 for ; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:02:30 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=5V6DatYFYJcsI0t5A2XEqxBgVVSHT9OMbcwuNZWEBkE=; b=uZQQstiNJwHaNvt/IObXjnj0e+hHS1/211vd2XF/bQD6Li3wdB7v8SebkDlhACGuYw THQvLKmY8ChnwSjMzKsk2Py+G6LJwd8c9dq2VYWTwliq/DsUA74wjK72CqIq+5SL52f0 61r9RQ21Mz0JXX0NIj5+x96YOTS7Gv6DrIlYQw5tX3TTVctHAH5dj9pB1MjdhzaSjUUO FqFEoLISMkJJuR0e0Rfkj+M5b3e+ALVqeVJEiOaztzvGL1SUlV/eHNMjzy1n+Sybr7q2 cf9vhzyNf+KIOA7vzpWSsVJ898Cb7ztW06Uu6SG2LCSnJviVBFf7OorOiZBFaMIfbkGB qTcg== rp9mr2050321vcb.29.1380661350770; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.218.140 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:02:30 -0700 (PDT) References: <000f01cebee9$46bd94d0$d438be70$@com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:02:30 -0700 From: Jay Laifman To: James Pickard Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] Grill trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net It doesn't sound like you got the right part. I believe originally the trim was held in by a large button, which could look sort of like a rivet. But more recently I got those plastic rectangular clips. I thought I got them from Rick. On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:00 PM, James Pickard wrote: > I'm trying to mount the narrow chrome trim strip at the base of the grill > opening. Mine was held in by 4 plastic clips that are disintegrating. I > ordered a set from SS, and all I got were 4 rivets. How am I supposed to > mount it using these? Thanks. > > > > James Pickard > > B9473298 > > Beaufort, SC > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 15:39:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9FA40515 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:39:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net (txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net [208.180.40.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B0EF4041D for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:35:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Roscrea ([74.196.108.150]) by txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net (InterMail vM.8.04.01.08 201-2343-100-153-20121108) with ESMTP id <20131001213359.NAER3871.txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net@Roscrea>; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 16:33:59 -0500 From: "Jerry Mo Christopherson" To: , References: Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 16:34:00 -0500 Thread-Index: AQHZzBG06inMTuoCit6opvtVvLTHDpnKQSgQ Content-Language: en-us cv=U9U3ukGTxjUZ1htzc0xMs1mlJhKXGOl1/jwUFswarGs= c=1 sm=0 a=xzW3HwPJiLYA:10 a=VPHkNMUpP2kA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=7Xh1zv6CAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=8LaAqv5HAAAA:8 a=Fdbq_NigEothtQ9iJVIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=gPGHqaX6uacA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Window cleaning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I use a product called "Sprayway", (www.spraywayretail.com). My local glass company uses it. I think you can get it at Sam's/WalMart . The thing that works well with it is a Microfiber cloth. Jerry Christopherson 9473187 -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:52 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Window cleaning Hello, I'm sick of the results I get using Windex. I'm sure there are people with knowledge of a better glass cleaner. What's the hot set-up? Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE TAC 0763 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jcmc2006@suddenlink.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 15:40:02 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B6440511 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:40:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail3.everyone.net [216.200.145.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 442ED4041D for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:35:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta004.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r91LTCLM008810; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:34:12 -0700 Received: by dm0224.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4018b265) id dm0224.523928a6.1a0671; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:34:10 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: , Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:33:24 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6+36lwCPCDSZNDQa2K8SBcn2TLFAADeh8g engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-10-01_07:2013-10-01,2013-10-01,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1310010110 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Window cleaning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jim Are you sure its not the towels you are using? Most paper towels have fabric softeners and other agents in them that just streak with every stroke. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:52 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Window cleaning Hello, I'm sick of the results I get using Windex. I'm sure there are people with knowledge of a better glass cleaner. What's the hot set-up? Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE TAC 0763 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6710 - Release Date: 09/30/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 15:46:25 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F36240510 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:46:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f46.google.com (mail-la0-f46.google.com [209.85.215.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B36D64041D for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:46:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f46.google.com with SMTP id eh20so6330483lab.5 for ; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:45:02 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=6Jx1Alfu3/xIaen2+Y2l4J5ZOdCqGi0Q6aa/f7LiM6Y=; b=l60AaMa01Z129NhJ/3x65K37p0EFo2iv0QCy+vBpzAEsRw6TCOuPkln7I2V6RGT505 px2Hm2/ZuzBvhYPb7Tievx3AvHYxyPOgsw85jOd1esyYFDXEFHo1jzGoWzGpsI+3Y8Uf BZ/fv15fw+3AWVDaL2ULuozwwOHn8UnwflCpOLo59MQjlSnz0BWIrvHkt0iJ4pIoLNdh AbTkhwhqAP9VIXZlkjSxp+z9vs0pneCBiLUBvHQ28ACE/tvaATfImu4sqraPrucn9q7a SieiN/ZK+oa7LaOOu4ml5rXvPVpj+Lz9SPatoPHuYt5F47RABtvaiaW1ljSPlKg6UYvZ rPEA== j5mr28443770lbo.17.1380663902818; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 14:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.204.69 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:45:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.204.69 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:45:02 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:45:02 -0400 From: "michael@michaelshortt.com" To: rfraser@bluefrog.com Cc: Rollright@aol.com, tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Window cleaning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Spray away is good stuff, key is that is ammonia free. Available at World Market. Ammonia is the chief culprit in streaking and it also will destroy window tint and cause lexan and Plexiglas to haze and yellow. But I swear by simple vinegar and water with plain black and white newspapers. Michael Shortt On Oct 1, 2013 5:39 PM, "Ron Fraser" wrote: > Jim > Are you sure its not the towels you are using? Most paper towels > have fabric softeners and other agents in them that just streak with every > stroke. > > Ron Fraser > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 3:52 PM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Window cleaning > > > Hello, > > I'm sick of the results I get using Windex. I'm sure there are people with > knowledge of a better > glass cleaner. > > What's the hot set-up? > > > > Jim Armstrong > Mk 1A > 382002083 > LRXFE > TAC 0763 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6710 - Release Date: 09/30/13 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael@michaelshortt.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 15:54:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382E140440 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:54:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A296D40421 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:51:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004960.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r91Ll7bp019965; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:50:39 -0700 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4018b265) id dm0213.523928c3.1a248a; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 14:50:38 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Jay Laifman'" , "'James Pickard'" Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:50:29 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6+6jHzPUFmI1AlQAm0pCyNvbh+ZAABL6Yg engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-10-01_07:2013-10-01,2013-10-01,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1310010111 Cc: 'Tiger List' Subject: Re: [Tigers] Grill trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The original fastener looks a little like a rivet. I have never seen them so I'm not sure. Parts List shows it - Body Mountings - plate C - part C28. I used a butterfly type clip that has a stud and nut. I don't recall what part # I used but my Ancient Auveco catalog shows a 2744 or 2818 that might work. These 2 fasteners have a wire on them that is removed to work on this part. You could make your own clip with some flat stock and some PEM studs. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Laifman Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 5:03 PM To: James Pickard Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] Grill trim It doesn't sound like you got the right part. I believe originally the trim was held in by a large button, which could look sort of like a rivet. But more recently I got those plastic rectangular clips. I thought I got them from Rick. On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:00 PM, James Pickard wrote: > I'm trying to mount the narrow chrome trim strip at the base of the > grill opening. Mine was held in by 4 plastic clips that are > disintegrating. I ordered a set from SS, and all I got were 4 rivets. > How am I supposed to mount it using these? Thanks. > > > > James Pickard > > B9473298 > > Beaufort, SC > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6710 - Release Date: 09/30/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 16:45:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 148C940422 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 16:45:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f173.google.com (mail-ie0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 282F740422 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 16:45:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id ar20so17544iec.32 for ; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 15:44:32 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=TXfh54DtnHVS7WNHuhKsdwwtJuQiOdGjuehjvb83le4=; b=f299LM124Y4mKx/hHA1Tk9dIIW8k67ZeFkKCi4OBaVnTIzufQbxObcJIUWeh0JXIst jec4qgaOtfnYUlmlFZhwHMms4G7G7kRfDP87HuUQcGABuCdk1kSkiJHWLeo7Bcb0FimW bsOE1fGUONz/X2WiyhuGvMDtKb20sfTIZal1uMfhIMCRw2sQncegGsPtuyHJoH8CJewX skayp1AYiPD8c8lwaErBjQtjZb3IDCJDYfZ9LL78jZj3cOvp7KTstswjKcWIqsqkm9k0 GPDqEw1RApYjlw9yt/07gqX/WdLgGfVX+3nuBu90hPKw6fSjwzcCO5LwpP9gHS8AFO4N vk1w== yr5mr19985037igb.38.1380667472455; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 15:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.76.10 with HTTP; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:44:32 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 08:44:32 +1000 From: michael king To: "Rollright@aol.com" Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] Window cleaning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I'm with the problem is the towels.. you need something that is dry and has a decent surface to it. Expensive paper towel is generally good or something like a thick but rough cotton terry cloth. A friend of mine uses newspaper.. go figure.. and gets decent results.. i stick with the expensive thick paper towel with the dry finish. On 2 October 2013 05:51, wrote: > Hello, > > I'm sick of the results I get using Windex. I'm sure there are people with > knowledge of a better > glass cleaner. > > What's the hot set-up? > > > > Jim Armstrong > Mk 1A > 382002083 > LRXFE > TAC 0763 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 17:42:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C0984042C for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:42:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d09.mx.aol.com (omr-d09.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEED34041D for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:39:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.74]) by omr-d09.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7D9027000009D for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 19:37:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mfa004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mfa004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.47.156]) by mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 53522E00008A for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 19:37:50 -0400 (EDT) From: AAAGLASSS@aol.com Full-name: AAAGLASSS Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 19:37:50 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1380670670; bh=FudNqmBmiFXZQne8T8ZIttLszhkYneU10KMucJ7uDXo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IkGGHvOQKywH8fVWn227fHW29ztRLnuEeUHPGOXtrI2LUBB6ixjrcm+2yaGOtlGfZ HeL4WmWVcraPIchlB6bGlr4Go45z1p88cgK+Qoj4Gst4V6Bg4dFzQJcYc2gU60lXWp rolwk0g9ZtTjmyxy1cqmOVVmBcPw3mgFMKRpsgCM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a524b5cce0c67 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Window cleaning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net For cleaning glass we are bending we use http://www.burcoinc.com/products/window_glo/5_gallon_bulk_pack/ We use a 50& cleaner and 50% water mix and newsprint paper. This is the best we have found for non streaking cleaner. But this is inside with new glass. If you outside in the sun and you have a bunch of road tar and crud on your windshield use a clean terry cloth get it soaking wet, ring it a little and put a small dollop of mineral spirits on the rag. The mineral spirits will loosen the crud and the water will keep it in suspension, use newspaper to clean up. We get terry towels at cost co and find that they have an oiliness to them, like they need to be laundered. HTH In a message dated 10/1/2013 3:44:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, michael.s.king@gmail.com writes: I'm with the problem is the towels.. you need something that is dry and has a decent surface to it. Expensive paper towel is generally good or something like a thick but rough cotton terry cloth. A friend of mine uses newspaper.. go figure.. and gets decent results.. i stick with the expensive thick paper towel with the dry finish. On 2 October 2013 05:51, wrote: > Hello, > > I'm sick of the results I get using Windex. I'm sure there are people with > knowledge of a better > glass cleaner. > > What's the hot set-up? > > > > Jim Armstrong > Mk 1A > 382002083 > LRXFE > TAC 0763 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/aaaglasss@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 17:50:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04954051B for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:50:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (fed1rmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A6FF40326 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:50:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo209 ([68.230.241.160]) by fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20131001234854.OQJW3849.fed1rmfepo201.cox.net@fed1rmimpo209> for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 19:48:54 -0400 Received: from laptop ([68.229.224.237]) by fed1rmimpo209 with cox id Xzot1m00957wa9801zotRM; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 19:48:54 -0400 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=ejdtUZWfcjAA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=VGFIjhxfHWT5Pm3CZXQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=awtiger@cox.net From: "Andy Walker" To: "'michael king'" , References: Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 18:48:46 -0500 Thread-Index: AQHZzBG06inMTuoCit6opvtVvLTHDgHOpXXkmbvy3/A= Content-Language: en-us Cc: 'Tiger Talk List Tiger' Subject: Re: [Tigers] Window cleaning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I, too, have used newspaper for years when I'm going to take a car to a car show. Newspaper plus a decent window cleaner will leave your windows as streak-free as you could ever get them. Andy Walker Edmond, OK B382001600LRXFE TAC #740 -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of michael king Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 5:45 PM To: Rollright@aol.com Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] Window cleaning I'm with the problem is the towels.. you need something that is dry and has a decent surface to it. Expensive paper towel is generally good or something like a thick but rough cotton terry cloth. A friend of mine uses newspaper.. go figure.. and gets decent results.. i stick with the expensive thick paper towel with the dry finish. On 2 October 2013 05:51, wrote: > Hello, > > I'm sick of the results I get using Windex. I'm sure there are people > with knowledge of a better glass cleaner. > > What's the hot set-up? > > > > Jim Armstrong > Mk 1A > 382002083 > LRXFE > TAC 0763 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/awtiger@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 17:51:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58A6440542 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:51:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa11-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa11-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A255B40326 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:51:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([216.222.140.182]) by p3plsmtpa11-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id XzqL1m0063wK5wg01zqLmz; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 16:50:21 -0700 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 19:49:59 -0400 From: Chris Thompson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: michael king References: Cc: "Rollright@aol.com" , Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] Window cleaning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Only with cars can you get guys to talk about window washing.... When I was racing cars that had windshields, and perfect vision seemed important, I used a product called Invisible Glass that you used to be only able to get online, but I can now get at my grocery store. And always, I've found using newspaper far better than paper towels. You can never get that perfectly clear polish with paper towels that you can get with newspaper. Chris B382000331 On 10/1/2013 6:44 PM, michael king wrote: > I'm with the problem is the towels.. you need something that is dry and has > a decent surface to it. Expensive paper towel is generally good or > something like a thick but rough cotton terry cloth. A friend of mine uses > newspaper.. go figure.. and gets decent results.. i stick with the > expensive thick paper towel with the dry finish. > > > On 2 October 2013 05:51, wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I'm sick of the results I get using Windex. I'm sure there are people with >> knowledge of a better >> glass cleaner. >> >> What's the hot set-up? >> >> >> >> Jim Armstrong >> Mk 1A >> 382002083 >> LRXFE >> TAC 0763 >> _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 17:57:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADE6D4044A for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:57:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE3D40329 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:52:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from homef2683adebd ([unknown] [173.78.236.254]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MU0000T8KX0IQD0@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 18:51:11 -0500 (CDT) From: "Scattt" To: "Jay Laifman" , "James Pickard" References: <000f01cebee9$46bd94d0$d438be70$@com> Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 19:51:12 -0400 Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] Grill trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net This trim was origionally held on with a rivet through a small cup. Put the rivet and cup in from the top and the trim clips over the edges of the cup. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay Laifman" To: "James Pickard" Cc: "Tiger List" Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Grill trim > It doesn't sound like you got the right part. I believe originally the > trim was held in by a large button, which could look sort of like a rivet. > But more recently I got those plastic rectangular clips. I thought I got > them from Rick. > > > On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 2:00 PM, James Pickard wrote: > >> I'm trying to mount the narrow chrome trim strip at the base of the grill >> opening. Mine was held in by 4 plastic clips that are disintegrating. I >> ordered a set from SS, and all I got were 4 rivets. How am I supposed to >> mount it using these? Thanks. >> >> >> >> James Pickard >> >> B9473298 >> >> Beaufort, SC >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/scattt@verizon.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 17:58:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8560340401 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:58:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958AF4044A for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:57:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([216.222.140.182]) by p3plsmtpa06-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id XzwC1m00K3wK5wg01zwD7A; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 16:56:14 -0700 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 19:55:51 -0400 From: Chris Thompson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: AAAGLASSS@aol.com References: Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Window cleaning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Almost all towels you buy (except micro-fiber cloths sold for cleaning) have a fabric treatment leftover on them that greatly reduces their absorbancy, and will leave a film if using them to wash with. You'll notice this with new bath towels. Washing them twice on the rinse cycle with about a cup of vinegar will usually get rid of it. One with baking soda helps, too. On 10/1/2013 7:37 PM, AAAGLASSS@aol.com wrote: > For cleaning glass we are bending we use > http://www.burcoinc.com/products/window_glo/5_gallon_bulk_pack/ > We use a 50& cleaner and 50% water mix and newsprint paper. This is the > best we have found for non streaking cleaner. But this is inside with new > glass. If you outside in the sun and you have a bunch of road tar and crud on > your windshield use a clean terry cloth get it soaking wet, ring it a > little and put a small dollop of mineral spirits on the rag. The mineral spirits > will loosen the crud and the water will keep it in suspension, use > newspaper to clean up. We get terry towels at cost co and find that they have an > oiliness to them, like they need to be laundered. HTH > > > In a message dated 10/1/2013 3:44:51 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, > michael.s.king@gmail.com writes: > > I'm with the problem is the towels.. you need something that is dry and has > a decent surface to it. Expensive paper towel is generally good or > something like a thick but rough cotton terry cloth. A friend of mine uses > newspaper.. go figure.. and gets decent results.. i stick with the > expensive thick paper towel with the dry finish. > > > On 2 October 2013 05:51, wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I'm sick of the results I get using Windex. I'm sure there are people > with >> knowledge of a better >> glass cleaner. >> >> What's the hot set-up? >> >> >> >> Jim Armstrong >> Mk 1A >> 382002083 >> LRXFE >> TAC 0763 >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com >> >> >> > > -- > Regards > > Michael King > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/aaaglasss@aol.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/chris@cthompson.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 18:04:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C59740511 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 18:04:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A51400A5 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 18:04:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47551A07A3 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 18:03:16 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 18:03:16 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:22.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/22.0 SeaMonkey/2.19 To: tigers@autox.team.net References: <524B6107.2040407@cthompson.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Window cleaning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net One of the reasons that newspaper works well on windows is that the black ink has very, very fine abrasives in it. You get a bit of polishing as well as just cleaning. mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 18:13:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71C1840452 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 18:13:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm9.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.216]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F08440322 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 18:09:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.159] by nm26.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 00:08:06 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.143] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 00:08:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 00:08:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 77908 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Oct 2013 00:08:06 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380672486; bh=qCjTDWjTZHwZRpUuEhrkgZ5oqzG1hFtSuLgY8XlcTtY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qrMJiIurtsrbdmhE4Jte1chmXr3kxDIquHq/J4zgPlL9KDcahQ2JTuTBncSz6TMRW8wYdYYnt3daUfai/0KACMY3VoOPKgEMt1E/sUffrLS6u3zXOtPkEGAmPAvKF16b0/g6vA47dsHAwhsmWPDYtoweoJI3aq/z2tOr3PZ/Yek= s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qMvyxxCE7PdYqKQsujAeX5pGjawj91p6bg+AxhkUjtm4pGhDc5lqwVo/sa+zbijDD56jcrsTxho9UOqJZHI+/V0EtPA8Cbikn4gGOkS9nwR1AyURKe6YH2pJqHkll8N2ADznKv0nJ+z9y9FOzahDVmXrQrOiEoZry6u+3Jk0uN0=; RoihCjI0pqanhtK3uxfnLL6TyABC.0lOP76DizvWQjRpxI5hBu829OD0uJNt SI18r7EQgjgIDVmweyvZBBi2GEZgrFLS1twVxawq6Cm435h_XCOFh3r5zpfs 7IMoxTbSKjWatYgm3iisNut8znpalRmEoIF7rkz7q1drrvKfJZFSP.ldSVEu X0w7SBKuOw6rQoK0zcIY_Rld21.kFnft9d4D6rw.O4gZ6tJsr_1U6LhzdZVG 7yCs4wY5fzCWUISyzQh4r3LmJYyJj2AOH76wIIJO3ClcT1S3wz_H4uAO2yxW 1L96gYX3w179XqKFXvV39rovYWpgwLSHygiY9f7MbOhD4gfiV_d.SzEK8tdy AMqXBxx3EC6MKmcoXmltlWbkP6vB9pZwsC05.ZodRdOHqSCUYWTPnO4aDmA5 IDNfY3TU4Y_4Kqp2VrZWtMZ3ipgA4XWNCj19G7mOv4Bz4CkJP0NFCzXVyfm9 AdN.re5BpyWItj3aOyxEKRGNkD2AMPD3rHgDLB_1kS_iovfY8gg2S3jIuQbP 2rPRRR2PGIAMt298VbvKb5_zNKvC76JoI8H2_kvw- Received: from [107.223.50.28] by web184406.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 17:08:06 PDT SSBzZWNvbmQgdGhlIFNwcmF5d2F5IGJyYW5kLiBJIHVzZSBpdCBvbiB0aGUgTGV4YW4vUGxleGlnbGFzcyBSLU1vZGVsIHJlYXIgd2luZG93IG9mIHRoZSBtdXN0YW5nIGFuZCBpdCBkb2VzIGFuZCBleGNlbGxlbnQgam9iIG9uIHRoYXQgYW5kIG9uIHRoZSB3aW5kc2hpZWxkLiBJIGhhdmUgaGFkIGdvb2QgcmVzdWx0IHdpdGggdGhhdCBhbmQgQkxVRSBwYXBlciB0b3dlbHMsIHRoZSBTY290dCBHYXJhZ2UvU2hvcCBicmFuZC4gVGhleSBjYXJyeSB0aGUgU3ByYXl3YXkgYnJhbmQgYXQgQ29zdG8gYXMgd2VsbCwBMAEBAQE- References: <524B6107.2040407@cthompson.net> <524B62C4.8080901@bradakis.com> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 17:08:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Sandy Ganz To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Window cleaning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I second the Sprayway brand. I use it on the Lexan/Plexiglass R-Model rear window of the mustang and it does and excellent job on that and on the windshield. I have had good result with that and BLUE paper towels, the Scott Garage/Shop brand. They carry the Sprayway brand at Costo as well, comes in a 3 pack. It's a nice foam when it comes out. Sandy _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 19:14:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2976940514 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 19:14:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D037940440 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 19:11:14 -0600 (MDT) a=58AQjy34UZ/GSAVUaz6wpA==:17 a=253cKie21zsA:10 a=vBsC2ZDmLDkA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=aSosK8FhANQA:10 a=XjJZmkFBg2-K8Pn89dwA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=k89djQ6OvsYA:10 a=aLludP3wI-8A:10 a=Dvx19XBo-lBpzsXNnwIA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=MaduHtWOPf25A2Ce:21 a=58AQjy34UZ/GSAVUaz6wpA==:117 Received: from [72.224.119.118] ([72.224.119.118:62108] helo=[192.168.1.126]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 7B/EE-04515-5627B425; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 01:09:58 +0000 Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 21:09:41 -0400 From: Tod Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: tigers@autox.team.net, Rollright@aol.com Subject: Re: [Tigers] Window cleaning Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jim: Windexis supposed to be applied to the glass, not swallowed. Tod B382002384LRXFE TAC 864 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 20:20:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4559540452 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 20:20:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm39.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm39.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E0CC40445 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 20:20:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm39.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 02:19:13 -0000 Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm39.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 02:16:17 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.150] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 02:16:17 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.198] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 02:16:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 02:16:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 17880 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Oct 2013 02:16:17 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380680177; bh=oVCu8kYD62gezyR9YuNICPC6bqndIWTeGj6Zu4tiEW8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rpUyDXvl/2YcN3oHi5Bf8tborOY81q0UHEQ6Hq7oO5HXdDwIQoLpHQhP2W7SMxDf69MiYDt02RyT/OSQKrS4Z4WFpbfUOtCoVJBB+JDicXrLOnYaouDcdZsNvQj7BXPRhpkkTCmJDGCxcAHQRe+T10ns11emu0Xruh2J2qQFKJA= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jTWG3bm/Xn4xWPiMTFf0mQ4Ba7RXRtmdKWdD3Mt5StXpWIxeLVjeT3Wc9KNCXqt87MKOK8YzE5CvMoGaDIWMToNZDPezAEuSoaBlD6PX5T0AlDpxr1ceseFAaBj+MXK6haHsrW8lX/5y1vRhJak2fJ2oAX/hOWzqrBeyr+OnyQU=; MLUbsIMRt4B2EuOJVhbRhpYmUmNBnFp_5sK_eBetHtGlNgQeq9q_tiEUWqkQ y5q8GG6FljlrHIwCXzKk4YKImfj0yPWzzBOEX9VZMGOZStQxM_t8A92ahYQ_ uXPnW0kic5tZftZ6tt2zwGL98_I164emXeNAx3qnaEpacIDZoKGoe0d.cdSC DrmeRiyfvWbtB7_v4OaYq6TGeSGk1Doa12P9jl.cA6O9pDB6o18pql_NLJC3 CbJ6MMlJPclCLjVi6nnFz8UUXnlGzvKLqZZOdpH5LOMyowFJvQS4EC_AmWxo fah.SCsTPhc1zi7OTFzobBOIMyCQbvGwBcL2CUc2TifmAzLSPuYqxQ3uo3IQ cFomEH38ir__fWEcBpptvF0qOxMHi.P5.b66fuMqiGZ7VQUqGOSI3piL0jvi yWhvW0gr1uq89mbJewrbjf9pQSKK7KIqwh0520BTzAi2hq..0IlCrpK8pmOS _Dw0RC6YTWLO9RTGOvEv_weqzRkW0UT9L7VnDTjMbalGO2scYShmC2Vh5Sxc ft7iF Received: from [173.48.171.26] by web161001.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 19:16:17 PDT T25lIG1vcmUgdm90ZSBmb3IgU3ByYXl3YXkgZ2xhc3MgY2xlYW5lci4gSW4gbXkgQWN1cmEgZGF5cywgd2UgdXNlZCBpdCBleGNsdXNpdmVseS4gTUdNVCB3b3VsZCByZWd1bGFybHkgcXVlc3Rpb24gdGhlIGhpZ2ggY29zdCwgYnV0IHRoZSBkZXRhaWxlcnMgYWx3YXkgd29uIG91dCBiZWNhdXNlIGl0IHBlcmZvcm1lZCBiZXR0ZXIuIElmIHlvdSBjYW4gZmluZCBpdCBhdCBDb3N0Y28sIGFsbCB0aGUgYmV0dGVyLgoKQW5kLCBhcyBudXR0eSBhcyBpdCBzb3VuZHMgdG8gdXNlIG5ld3NwYXBlciBhdCBob21lIHQBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 19:16:17 -0700 (PDT) From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Glass cleaner Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net One more vote for Sprayway glass cleaner. In my Acura days, we used it exclusively. MGMT would regularly question the high cost, but the detailers alway won out because it performed better. If you can find it at Costco, all the better. And, as nutty as it sounds to use newspaper at home to wipe windows off, though I haven't tried it(didn't to have to clean off newsprint from my hands), I know guys to do, at home. Rande _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 20:26:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92BCC40452 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 20:26:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mga14.intel.com (mga14.intel.com [143.182.124.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E05440444 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 20:26:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from azsmga002.ch.intel.com ([10.2.17.35]) by azsmga102.ch.intel.com with ESMTP; 01 Oct 2013 19:24:47 -0700 Received: from fmsmsx108.amr.corp.intel.com ([10.19.9.228]) by AZSMGA002.ch.intel.com with ESMTP; 01 Oct 2013 19:24:46 -0700 Received: from FMSMSX110.amr.corp.intel.com ([169.254.1.32]) by FMSMSX108.amr.corp.intel.com ([169.254.10.26]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 19:24:46 -0700 From: "Doornbos, Daniel" To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] another custom tiger Thread-Index: Ac698o24K1azo4YWQo6qKvpYsujYjQBI+i/g Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 02:24:45 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.1.200.108] Subject: [Tigers] FW: another custom tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I think this one started as an alpine. I say so because on Dale's web site under projects it is labeled, "Worlds most modified alpine." http://www.dalesresto.com/Projects/index.php http://www.russoandsteele.com/past-collector-car/1965-Sunbeam-Tiger/35 Photos on Dale's web site say Scott Lempert a search on his name turns up this blurb where it states the car as a tiger. http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicles/hrdp_0502_1969_chevy_nova/ What is this one? Alpine or Tiger to start with? http://www.ebay.com/itm/121178512992?forcerRptr=true&item=121178512992&viewit em=&sspagename=ADME:B:SS:US:1120#ht_20941wt_1189 Regardless I would be proud to own either car. Looks like great workman ship in both vehicles. dan -----Original Message----- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 12:13:10 -0500 From: Cullen1972 To: Pointers Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] another custom tiger By the way... I had noted it as a "real tiger" when I pointed out the car was for sale on eBay because i recall norman miller had commented on the car many years ago on this forum and stated it was. I specifically recall him making a point because it was being called "the worlds most modified alpine" and I have an email where he stated it was a Tiger and noted it by VIN. Furthermore, it still shows the exact same photos that were used when the car was on eBay before, even before Russo and Steele. (I never delete my emails) A TAC officer and member of stoa contacted me offline shortly after I made my opening comment and assured me there was no evidence to substantiate that the car was authentic... And -somewhat tactfully- requested that I curb my statements to avoid make such claims without proper documentation. So... Even though we have all been told a certain story as to the history of the car, which is well documented in the archives by 4 or 5 conversations over the years... This car has not been verified as a tiger through the TAC process. Or at least its vin and JAL identification have been compromised and it may it may not be the same car that was TAC'd prior to its customization at Dales shop. At least that's what I was told... Boldly I might add. For what it's worth. Cullen Alpine 260 TAC 840 ************************** _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 20:32:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8B640532 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 20:32:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9942340444 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 20:30:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.152] by nm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 02:28:43 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.223] by tm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 02:28:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1032.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 02:28:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 55857 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Oct 2013 02:28:43 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380680923; bh=Ljmc+NSbn3ty+vUqr5Br1gGuDA/t6A61y7HT5cHN3Cw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LR1txApEQ2ZhyWk/IGbqzcsVY3mB+Hd1QbmGhGQICv714VPJWJDZk0Sdz3V9B0Vb2GAV3nAUSdS7+REeEqoBrOWzOigJKGruSdyRCCFhz4Dc6UHE2L7mH9/WvGZ3Egb0JahFW0FSQk1eZPii/3XcHn33POlKTEyEmCSkIZ4JOmo= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PYXGasstggXMP6qWS4lc+Wc7QMgWNCwKmzUbGY1WH01XzUAbkR6q2zcQVRNjgpAJ9br0B2ZE0sBflfdyFymaku9YVxIc67ZaN0rCr5gOGpBljkeCQ23TbbW2B2n7VDaf58U2mXP+kIxFWXPcobOXuBnnHZzJyr52w63A8Z2YhzM=; VsR2KQUeAXhhynM9JI6oY Received: from [173.48.171.26] by web161005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 19:28:43 PDT SSd2ZSBvbmx5IHNlZW4gb25lIGNhciB3aXRoIHRoZSBvcmlnaW5hbCBtb3VudGluZyBzdHVkcyBzdGlsbCBvbiB0aGUgY2FyIHdpdGggdGhlIG1vdWxkaW5nIHVuaW5zdGFsbGVkLCBhbmQgdGhleSBsb29rZWQgdmVyeSBzaW1pbGFyIHRvIHRoZSByYWlzZWQgc3R1ZHMgZm9yIHRoZSBzaWRlIG1vdWxkaW5nIHN0cmlwcyBmb3IgVGlnZXIgSSBhbmQgSUEuIEkga25vdyB0aGUgd2hpdGUgcGxhc3RpYyBjbGlwcyB0aGF0IFJpY2sgc2VsbHMoZm9yIHdoaWNoIHlvdSB3b3VsZCBncmluZCBkb3duIHRoZSBzdHVkcyABMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 19:28:43 -0700 (PDT) From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] lower grille hardware Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I've only seen one car with the original mounting studs still on the car with the moulding uninstalled, and they looked very similar to the raised studs for the side moulding strips for Tiger I and IA. I know the white plastic clips that Rick sells(for which you would grind down the studs and need to drill holes, as an alternate way to attach) are pretty much a match for the side moulding clips still available for the '75-76 VW Rabbit base models sold in North America. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 21:49:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDED740524 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 21:49:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4524044A for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 21:44:40 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=ix.netcom.com; b=f6RYie2fPKTxsRge2x/9S9xniILOpBc/TlEU6EiQV4cG9u0XIIhmQfO1v3prSgLA; h=Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [108.248.144.237] (helo=[192.168.1.65]) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1VRDLE-0001CE-Rw; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 23:43:12 -0400 References: <1380680923.55463.YahooMailNeo@web161005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: Allan Ballard Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 23:43:11 -0400 To: snakebit289 Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] lower grille hardware Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Original studs are sold from time to time on EBay by Volvoguys and resemble pop rivets. Allan Ballard Mk1a Tiger Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 1, 2013, at 10:28 PM, snakebit289 wrote: > > I've only seen one car with the original mounting studs still on the car with the moulding uninstalled, and they looked very similar to the raised studs for the side moulding strips for Tiger I and IA. I know the white plastic clips that Rick sells(for which you would grind down the studs and need to drill holes, as an alternate way to attach) are pretty much a match for the side moulding clips still available for the '75-76 VW Rabbit base models sold in North America. > > Rande Bellman > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/aballard@ix.netcom.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 1 23:20:51 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CAEF40521 for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 23:20:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm7-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm7-vm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.214]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B8E4044A for ; Tue, 1 Oct 2013 23:19:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.137.12.190] by nm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2013 18:06:22 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.234] by tm11.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2013 18:06:22 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1042.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Oct 2013 18:06:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 27693 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Oct 2013 18:06:22 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380650782; bh=jXIDhPPwLfm5Tql0U+hQEjLva+qVWoyztTTEh7pxyfA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=e+SvCnTZNVj4hftz1knbbc7CWBcD5UJNu52U1gXRNxa43Py134J4lePeQGELN96PxYpRKhL2pO2d+sjmmOGu0/7wY2YZAbjwl9v7WyqjBGmBpM2y7GOhF5iCnsG6fVmnU1SD0jCMoFVPZOcbS2aiFabzcRtODenOWp5GSJlBbD4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=o+mUrAMNVJ5pKtAg5jrTLbwrOoQb4EkbbJPnRAB7t+Q3FDXms5+K1MV6AnN0KOXOvX6/+V167S4FVBIqwLT51yOiAC1ccB+AFyAR9UIglx3PcuOBQz0h5LS0kYmlFJSe/dV8BWG5zSPnh4Ggz6pw6d8mQ9S5slwtJhPNYitFT/M=; Eb1JcSCzsXBfwycafJsfmBcWcS8SplDJETXtxes3QUp0ZtrwwLEWz3t2lDEY 6r18va0lrp8QS5zpn_XhnZP54iYcHT9Ku5fX_plaxsTP8SuUyg0ISXgXOZc_ lFUDsY0gyahdo0sRyFibcaY0JRCkjTFGNFzDRv6EUJ6inVVugDksiPruT1Bd Hfw7Dzjc5pdb2QtbW4FWzG1VaRWmLjGb_.ta4tF2NjnDTFOEtNDJbnEGk0cg qs5SWft71MGM5m3.a5gOIKagvgWmbyVgriXX2S0PAQU5OhAyTzdoIWDDdA2O RwlwjmjdqPMxGYfJQYBP2mrdBiECrZhnUxUYek0IZjbgvaa5EvbHvUkxwV6s S.5pHtPf6MhUWcMqiWnZyQ7OkFbA7gZDIQhO4hwQvp5XDd7aROXFryRLVYn. cN3TkfvnHCFTnTjj.5dfPjLlALmCUqIk9tfNzP4OeS_G4G3P2F3gz.cU9hMx XqQp9E2LgL4_uzNiF8J9x55i7wdar5Jutbazd7GheXBCCv_lS2.GHMDPrXCc LIi0t1b9p13BQTN_M Received: from [170.139.252.252] by web164704.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Oct 2013 11:06:22 PDT QWxsCgpJIGZpbmQgbm8gaGVhdGVyIGNvbnRyb2wgY2FibGVzIGxpc3RlZCBpbiBTUyBjYXRhbG9nLsKgIERvZXMgYW55b25lIGtub3cgb2YgYSBzb3VyY2UgYW5kIHBhcnQgbnVtYmVycyBmb3IgdGhlIDIgY2FibGVzP8KgIE15IGNhciBkaWQgbm90IGhhdmUgYSBoZWF0ZXIgd2hlbiBhY3F1aXJlZC4KCkRvZXMgYW55b25lIGhhdmUgYSAnZWxib3cnIChwYXJ0ICMgMTcpwqB0aGF0IHRoZXkgd291bGQgYmUgd2lsbGluZyB0byBwYXJ0IHdpdGggdGhhdCBnb2VzIG9uIHRoZSBlbmQgb2YgdGhlIGRlZnJvc3RlciABMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 11:06:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Joel Martin To: Tiger List Serve Cc: Rick McLeod - Sunbeam Specialties Subject: [Tigers] Parts Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net All I find no heater control cables listed in SS catalog. Does anyone know of a source and part numbers for the 2 cables? My car did not have a heater when acquired. Does anyone have a 'elbow' (part # 17) that they would be willing to part with that goes on the end of the defroster hose? I think on the black metal defroster vents (2) - that go on top of the dash pad, there should be tonneau studs used (SS part # AT73 on page 20, soft top fasteners), how many are used and where do they go? ET66 Chrome surround for motif badge -'Sunbeam V8', what is the best way to get the motif out and clean up - black paint on back side? Thanks Joel Martin _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 06:03:37 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14BA24051E for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 06:03:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED4840440 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 06:03:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YAZy1m0041GhbT853C2AcL; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 12:02:10 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-219v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.48.253]) by omta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id YC291m00m5Tlpyy3TC29yk; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 12:02:10 +0000 Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:02:09 +0000 (UTC) From: stubrennan@comcast.net To: snakebit289 References: <1380680923.55463.YahooMailNeo@web161005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Thread-Topic: lower grille hardware Thread-Index: UftfWtJrKM1iBiGu+8IN7MsiOZf4Aw== s=q20121106; t=1380715330; bh=yUco71ztDjnmPbsJnlsTm/6MEWBkf8Q+bt3lit2Lc6Q=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=DWpU3bRgoJWpBMuTp9pOxldpzu3mgDjB0JiX4Tkxd911YtWU8+URTvKm69ic8VPvW jUiydoMf9uvD5ZcVyv2j1Kf3ypO+p6+xX5UoNMC38T9v8bbg9vZc8ILQSlUK2tqgGH dyjNTIIbhzZFThibT86nZqTzybznNR7UxuExrtwROosNZjeZSUcP4s1RGW4GnjtFkK vvQvo9Hb9j7keX4V6yrUSx6k+cZJVSomfAnjpldudKTsqULWXuO15zagfuu5E9a6s7 vdfo146mZ+4qX9X7goCq1Ui6YCrbPaG7kr1Qb/LUwY2DCX+1B74D0MwVGTDQYVd+2U DjLhetrLwhoLg== Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] lower grille hardware Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Now I'm just working from memory here, since it was back in the late 70's when I did this, but I think I used those plastic licsense plate nut/bolt combinations to hold the lower strips in place. The heads of the bolts would slip into the strips, or would with a simple reshaping. No rust, no dissimilar metals. Stu _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 07:07:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8065A40534 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 07:07:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82454040E for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 07:07:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta006.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r92D3XTg007757; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 06:06:27 -0700 Received: by dm0219.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a209) id dm0219.523928b3.1b2702; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 06:06:25 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.145.214]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 13:06:18 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Joel Martin'" , "'Tiger List Serve'" Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 09:06:14 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac6/Lv6H4HD+UaDtRfqly4tDSZ/cPAAPaxMg engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-10-02_04:2013-10-02,2013-10-02,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1310020050 Cc: 'Rick McLeod - Sunbeam Specialties' Subject: Re: [Tigers] Parts Questions Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Joel Cables - used parts dealer or make your own - bicycle parts maybe Heater control cable - 1201379 Air control cable - 1206478 Elbow - 2201362 used part dealer Tonneau studs - I believe there are at least 2 different configurations as to where the studs go. You would need a Tonneau cover and then place the studs where needed. You might be able to see the position for the studs from under the dash. My Tiger has 2 studs center of the dash pad about 3" back from the windshield and 2 studs near the doors again about 3" back from the windshield. Motif - there should be 3 barrel clip holding the surround - you should be able to gently pry the surround up and off the body. Plastic badges can be cleaned and the polished with plastic polish as needed. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Martin Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:06 PM To: Tiger List Serve Cc: Rick McLeod - Sunbeam Specialties Subject: [Tigers] Parts Questions All I find no heater control cables listed in SS catalog. Does anyone know of a source and part numbers for the 2 cables? My car did not have a heater when acquired. Does anyone have a 'elbow' (part # 17) that they would be willing to part with that goes on the end of the defroster hose? I think on the black metal defroster vents (2) - that go on top of the dash pad, there should be tonneau studs used (SS part # AT73 on page 20, soft top fasteners), how many are used and where do they go? ET66 Chrome surround for motif badge -'Sunbeam V8', what is the best way to get the motif out and clean up - black paint on back side? Thanks Joel Martin _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 13:17:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AD234054C for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 13:17:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm11-vm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm11-vm8.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3027E4040E for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 13:17:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.164] by nm11.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 19:15:44 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.146] by tm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 19:15:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1022.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 19:15:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 75335 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Oct 2013 19:15:43 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380741343; bh=22aOsXkHxCjG0xpo84PcZDz84v/1ulKzzHr/e12MSMo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qEmkDLVlHvnCb4gLETcdwwEnOGuVtBAxJ4dO6T80ymjTXjL5r2KQYVHqH5aE8+uLj0F76kX7mq+NfXbg9nVocQ1/OgBKNfgm9Is3zNgFVLFlL0f1+k2h00ip2Y9I7N5bvcQ27dCno4JXUdpq76/oHHKAkB5ffTj6fFMTHhz5jrM= s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NS2zGoYH2rCmUcaaBhsaiN2BD6ZjMlkFPjgJXrY5Rkx8XS57RIb6h5N3Cdx/PRMANu3lQW9MXm4s7gelBTjkcG993LTMTgljpms+zqCG8Fk/BZ95UY4J42kJJJ1s7k97BHLOHKuUpENeNskYttsOh5D0YayBf7T7oCkT2PWgirw=; 7n4PyrFel3tP2rr8g2.gYE9MPZHp8wCHV2Ncm2kIGpTiQlB3m16pWZzbrlEv 0GNaM6AfUle_RVIaHgOhgW59PEbZvEVJVY5BFfHsCFUmYMQMSrj4jGDZFWAN Vkdm0e0aN_ZcGar2LpQHTdNA9apwIHJQyTWB8T1cmnAKctm921KpWdLOPhEx T.U2qwe8pAsTM2lQJab38GbI6ZjkxMklHtLq9fxkxCtHfqWEJsBrdVsjm9OF rDO4VWB9EOFtwmd6XP43LdDfDray23n1vg0mMntjrfBLHV9yhWunEseijKx_ t2.pdE8hN4g2Cu6ISzGRxLR8GQz9irfHPckg4v7hZwMKx1AI1AEwEgRAGSkA n7g2otORTAKK6qThxLxKr9VxoYlpGPn.ipmrUmymJ7B6oRKPljfKBu7HP7fZ Ql1o_9Z0FthxrmcJmE4_xaf1Nim0muuqN9BB2wcTNwDmfk8Zk.kZPdG_niES FDuRXsd9n6wCZuRgk5EPF.Nm8gt9SVINA3Ki2R15U7KhBQsZoCg75aFZllCX Ff7j1YHOUswyVBYOovJuO44CAJnz4oQvMOGJtNYJLPz0gZyOedSoTOT.uBgM 2nCXYDWBOMshd4AylCJm08RyPKeNxpZN5SiVH2aBu2Exg.R.VbEf0ndDg76B gsFVoR88s8enH.7RICJncl3xC06VSr7XwtkhWh63FDMp.AKdPGY0iMAuxgZO 3iRgdivrtcn0O7bkbcVa2SA-- Received: from [99.136.115.10] by web184704.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 12:15:43 PDT SSd2ZSBwb3N0ZWQgYSBzbGlkZXNob3cgZGVwaWN0aW5nIHRoZSBzdGVwcyBJIHVzZWQgdG8gcmVzdG9yZSB0aGUgMTcyNSBtb3RpZiBvbiBteSBTZXJpZXMgNSBBbHBpbmUgKG15IGZpcnN0IEFscGluZS4uLiBsb25nIHRpbWUgVGlnZXIgb3duZXIsIGJ1dCBwdXJjaGFzZWQgYSBvbmUgb3duZXIgJzY2IEFscGluZSBhIHdoaWxlIGJhY2spLgoKT25jZSB0aGUgcGxhc3RpYyBwYXJ0IGlzIHJlbW92ZWQsIGJvdGggc2lkZXMgY2FuIGJlICJzYW5kZWQiIGJ5IHJ1YmJpbmcgdGhlIG1vdGlmIGJhY2sgYW5kIGZvcnQBMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 12:15:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Waite To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Re. Motif Restoration Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I've posted a slideshow depicting the steps I used to restore the 1725 motif on my Series 5 Alpine (my first Alpine... long time Tiger owner, but purchased a one owner '66 Alpine a while back). Once the plastic part is removed, both sides can be "sanded" by rubbing the motif back and forth on a piece of wet sandpaper (progressively finer grit). On the front, you continue until it is smooth enough to then switch to plastic polish. On the back side you don't need to get it to the polished state, just very smooth and clear of the black paint. Then, if you need to ad a bit of chrome silver to the lettering, you can do so being careful not to get any on the back. Then, I placed the face of the motif on strips of masking tape to protect it while spraying semi-gloss black. After it is dry, replace in surround and reattach to car. http://s1299.photobucket.com/user/fordlandia/slideshow/ALPINE%201725%20LOGO Regards, Bill Waite Grand Rapids, MI _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 2 17:42:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B53424053D for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 17:42:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.28]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05A774040E for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2013 17:41:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 23:40:22 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.131] by nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 23:37:25 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.171] by tm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 23:37:25 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.196] by tm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 23:37:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Oct 2013 23:37:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 36578 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Oct 2013 23:37:25 -0000 s=s1024; t=1380757045; bh=xDIIkXB84rS5lvopuwFeWaOjDMygwtblhBU0Jvtksm4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OOScDt2FVaNJ4Gb3molF4fnqJNLIXqg4tTf3qFGAuyyy35261o7E2fxD+tpHAZF/l1V/wx/Hd4mvTJT3nELCMda958FLnkm9adUPHAlvrj9e1WVcmcx2EKBRgdH7jYbWruliNA4xccpmoQngqXWtc8+94EeKDbwdGAhuzW1oMl4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Sj/Il+yJgjG6xSWgA5UFoT3zmPKp6rvsLQEBW9HUE6zGYJUR655e/ORFNZAYuPoD2DuC7UmWIEeIsby3zPv7KS8Ba9VF1Z4pUgcTCdzVuF4c4vomqNrreMEVRQsN1gXHxwhVp8nCa7kjRFsn9M9AqkQ3tbAKlOGAdNhYBNyY3XU=; B6Ic6qbvHpYFBXqwvaMuNqBu.F8RWDJ96uyGm_X9lezS0s9.jzU49VUCiWX4 MBc5ilLv67TrliFyOBmcChQdb3U_1y1fO1KnSTQbNOSzYMmeAh7YRnS2gYFR 5af6vVbgyPZVDGJBJaZB0yJ8sItLl0X3NDV9MQZ04sZJzpkyBpyRbIkoBZH2 RJanthGQH6_PpXKrS8CB8114lkK3W12A.4XAjOsN9zB3A_dnPuWajgioI.6_ xf4_TS1wS_AHPoHFMEnuyrNsxb4X0cLHi9donYhImct1OVaGK4PU80tbhyns S3Dh2hNG7RhpnrWJo6i4Wvoe0QuOtYyc5ptDseBsF0UG6E0VxrmJ0NTYDtN2 AZO5uTb86fy.w.Istx6WdlHNfV7M7.hOVvr53wHu7vKj7RHKk_GXZx7m47dW 2bpDzHj5pkReVHwNeH.dqSsH5E_JTl8H0GqN8TYOe9wVx56wvWxeDDoDLpzh OMSeGHcIi4vglk3gA7AD1pjdU.9hV Received: from [173.48.171.26] by web161005.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 02 Oct 2013 16:37:25 PDT Sm9lbCwgCgoKUmlnaHQgbm93IHNvbWVvbmUgaGFzIGFuIGFzc29ydG1lbnQgb2YgVGlnZXIgaGVhdGVyIGNvbnRyb2wgcGFydHMsIGluY2x1ZGluZyBjYWJsZXMsIHRoZSBibGFjayBhbmQgdGhlIGNocm9tZSBmYWNlcGxhdGUgYW5kIGJsb3dlciBtb3RvciwgYSBsb3Qgb2Ygc3R1ZmYKVG9uaWdodCwgdGhlIGJpZGRpbmcgd2FzIGF0ICQ1MC4gSXQgbG9va3MgbGlrZSBpdCB3YXMgZm9yIHRoZSBsYXRlciBUaWdlcnMgd2l0aCB0aGUgc2VwYXJhdGUgYmxhY2sgcGxhc3RpYyBrbm9icyBmb3IgdGhlIGhlYXRlciABMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2013 16:37:25 -0700 (PDT) From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Cc: Joel Martin Subject: [Tigers] Heater controls on eBay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Joel, Right now someone has an assortment of Tiger heater control parts, including cables, the black and the chrome faceplate and blower motor, a lot of stuff Tonight, the bidding was at $50. It looks like it was for the later Tigers with the separate black plastic knobs for the heater controls. Take a look to see if everything you need is there, and contact the seller about the condition of the cables. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 06:50:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2D3940445 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 06:50:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d01.mx.aol.com (omr-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.252.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE095403C8 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 06:49:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.201]) by omr-d01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 41FED70057A46; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 08:48:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dqa001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.211.193]) by mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D50E5E000089; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 08:48:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Rollright@aol.com Full-name: Rollright Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 08:48:22 -0400 (EDT) To: fordlandia@sbcglobal.net, tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1380890903; bh=EFalajoEG1qJ88C5LXgjQxvQARo//aowj2nULSjoggQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yAXCmpNOVXzfNtcc9GIyocAEOsq1EWa1Sdz69ox2ZLz3l4sRuGNm2n+xCX+olgz+s JQbBOVR2P0AGW2X34juK5hNIPw8RwGz+8PJsHVeWSYOmh7qUlq2I/eJBe2ok+neQkN BszB2rTZoRXRcORj8gqtMHBPhQI+QNna0TKThkAU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c9524eb916749f Subject: [Tigers] motif restoration Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Bill, I've been looking sideways at my motifs (they're kind of sad) for quite some time, wondering how I would attack them. You made it a simple straightforward project. The pictures brought it all home! Thanks so much. Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE TAC 0763 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 09:58:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A8C84041C for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 09:58:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f171.google.com (mail-ie0-f171.google.com [209.85.223.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F9640067; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 09:58:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id at1so9715350iec.30 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 08:57:11 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=WBrrhN/b4st7/71SkcrLfZzDhSFpgU1YxOKPqLan5C4=; b=Y3gd1GBVpDoao8/AONvB0a7mH8nW+fTuPYb9gTUUEaIc5fMPV4ucCxVUvhEqirJ45Q I0obOXrv31pz9XHPcEEtdpm6hye7fHjZTnR1euvIIN5NhjEGdYfhoLBc0ISXmxvzHW5c v65MA6FmRNdgzLTTbslH8c7kvACQdUpwCsCC9MwPmKzucmEps+Q1kN+/C5t6XrDiGrbi ZiAPbOLPwG0r+7pvWnylfwTRT9N4n0kM0wh8adisOxmIaYdo6ZN5MZSsDoFQHeNhNXL+ /QBUtUUFSE9xI5MQeS8JFFmUTVKTctmpHaAIMBpITgwY9dqH3Ar1FyKN4RCuM0eIkr2M nYWw== lp8mr7174314igb.24.1380902231356; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 08:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.21.0.22] (wsip-184-186-210-18.ok.ok.cox.net. [184.186.210.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id x5sm7603367iga.6.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 04 Oct 2013 08:57:10 -0700 (PDT) References: <524EE3EC.8080301@mayfco.com> From: Cullen1972 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 10:57:08 -0500 To: "drmayf@mayfco.com" Cc: "alpines@autox.team.net" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Series 5 Alpine body Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Over the last few years I have traded for or flipped, or robbed parts off of a couple of series 5 bodies... The nicest one had only light rust in the floor boards, but was less than 1000.00 dollars. The most recent had some dents and rust in the floors and rockets and was about 1500.00. I think values have come up on alpine bodies but in general I think you could find a very straight body, maybe a car in non running unrestored condition... For less than 2 grand. IMO. Cullen. Sent from my iPhone. > On Oct 4, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Larry Mayfield wrote: > > I have been considering a new body for the Sunbeam. Salt Flats time trials car, a glass one made from a S5 body that is near perfect. The body I have is warped bent and other wise near useless. What could I expect to pay for a body only in good shape, if such a thing exists. Are fiber glass bodies available anywhere? That might be cheaper. > > mayf > > ______________________________ > drmayf > Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. > 204.913 mph flying mile > 210.779 mph exit speed > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmccann1972@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 10:51:55 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9FDC40413 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 10:51:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f181.google.com (mail-ve0-f181.google.com [209.85.128.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1C7440413 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 10:51:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f181.google.com with SMTP id oy12so2555728veb.40 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 09:50:21 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=3cBjQdt/WIwIBGRKvAXWOfz5vyuu917san7EWLAToEo=; b=sIuCfJ+wezS4xPpfoU7wYvkzfPfQQGq7ssaS1+NaTOnejDCOzhVXjuxeeKAG40SG06 ZSN2cAlvRaRqTPiC9c1TtvHswzcg1cn4BrcHEwWDY8UHZI56X0gEynATlPTFRRT+YHzj 3fAus/65cjJSWQgvbs1lpcZK5F/XW+59cl2hpdn1GhtD3SSTkRocKxnnPNjfazVZx9/+ BPr1zL8LuzUkd2Dk/3L6G3VZolNV1ETiSSYsdNkzNd5ShUGWMa7RMZndS+kn3I1Mfefr XWVxUsuJ9W8u1DbZ6NjjrDEYD+NucTgbbXIk0yYn6ZnO32Q4Bq/cOIR7vYJ1AlTibCWb wsEQ== ap8mr524254vdc.40.1380905421789; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 09:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.218.140 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 09:50:21 -0700 (PDT) References: <524EF090.9000308@mayfco.com> Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 09:50:21 -0700 From: Jay Laifman To: drmayf@mayfco.com Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fast Back Alpines/Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Does it matter that the fastbacks were not US cars? On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Larry Mayfield wrote: > Ok, so how many of the fast back versions of either type were made an > sold? Anybody know? Rules for bodies requires that a certain number were > produced even if a replica. A fast back replica body would be dang near > perfect....if I had data showing how many were made and sold... Just an > additional thought... > > mayf > > -- > ______________________________ > drmayf > Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. > 204.913 mph flying mile > 210.779 mph exit speed > ______________________________**_________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/tigers/jay.laifman@** > gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 11:20:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3454140449 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 11:20:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f52.google.com (mail-qa0-f52.google.com [209.85.216.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6F840418; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 11:20:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id k4so1258045qaq.18 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 10:19:06 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=+OJUMiiBdL3ZJd9WZDHe92/707QeXfUYGQIz+XtluS4=; b=H8iUnc4jxgMT0ExhCY4C2iiJaUUDL1ms1AqFy5ShZ5QdzZlbwk/PN3ghJwvLlH86Is 7aGSAvw4smGrf5Fir3oT6wvkLdLDV3SBgT0zHwg29GTdXHgB5t6RK/mhsm2f87xOrJh6 tIedAPBE770y6QFJ5w7Lhn2NxgdwWSyYYYkk+BEnfySU3KvvQ3J87i6uNxk46k7+MYXp Krl4bjgg/r2E4g1tqqNPorBNasQUVnY39UWQgeBPmP+vd0uZAlhnUQK7QDPXiNJOjskS pPeQWd6g5YHztBiUr8Il3FkizJOPvmPVuw6DSnvNKsnXvr7P1i0fvFkdIJtXjgpI40X6 sIJQ== c8mr19381123qco.17.1380907146520; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 10:19:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.131.129 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 10:19:06 -0700 (PDT) References: <524EF090.9000308@mayfco.com> Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 13:19:06 -0400 From: Jim Sencindiver To: drmayf Cc: "alpines@autox.team.net" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fast Back Alpines/Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Let's see... 3 Le Mans Tigers, 1 Harrington Tiger, ?? Harrington Alpines. Keep on Tigering! Jim Sencindiver B382100451/TAC 448 http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 11:36:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D82D4051C for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 11:36:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from exprod5og111.obsmtp.com (exprod5og111.obsmtp.com [64.18.0.22]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2BB740419; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 11:36:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cinmlip11.e2k.ad.ge.com ([165.156.4.1]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5ob111.postini.com ([64.18.4.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUk78LBTPn4HN3zZu4N3aVXkiQb83Ah2Q@postini.com; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 10:34:37 PDT Received: from unknown (HELO CINMBHT03.e2k.ad.ge.com) ([3.159.212.196]) by cinmlip11.e2k.ad.ge.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 04 Oct 2013 13:34:35 -0400 Received: from ALPMLCH02.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.17.21) by CINMBHT03.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.212.196) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 13:34:34 -0400 Received: from CINMBAPD04.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.212.70) by alpmlch02.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.17.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 13:34:34 -0400 Received: from CINMBCNA10.e2k.ad.ge.com ([169.254.4.21]) by CINMBAPD04.e2k.ad.ge.com ([169.254.10.97]) with mapi id 14.03.0146.000; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 13:34:34 -0400 From: "Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light)" To: "drmayf@mayfco.com" , "tigers@autox.team.net" , "alpines@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Body Design... Thread-Index: AQHOwSH0i4o4i6nK60CxsFuyaSVc/pnky0DA Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 17:34:33 +0000 References: <524EF1A7.2060808@mayfco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [3.159.212.193] Subject: Re: [Tigers] Body Design... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net It's a stretch (pardon the pun), but the Sunbeam Arrow-based Alpines made from '69 to '75 were fastback, rather reminiscent of the old Plymouth Barracuda. They had a whopping 98" wheelbase to boot. -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 12:50 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net; alpines@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Body Design... Hmm, more requests... is there some among you who can do computer sketches (like using google sketchup)? Looking for one who can make a 130 inch wheel base car with a swoopy new front nose on it per my specs? Body aft of the windshield would be pure alpine or tiger. Front would resemble an upside down ski boat prow...sorta... anybody do that? With and without a Harrington top... mayf _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 12:48:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5617C40519 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 12:48:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A6940419 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 12:47:42 -0600 (MDT) a=58AQjy34UZ/GSAVUaz6wpA==:17 a=253cKie21zsA:10 a=vBsC2ZDmLDkA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=mboj8DiVkLkA:10 a=3InZvjwzAAAA:8 a=U3m4I6uJmcqfqjFTBY0A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=7FsMo3RpcPMA:10 a=dXBbvOL2nrkA:10 a=FbL27rm0-dhX3jKikl0A:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=FExUnVnwfNUq4B__:21 a=58AQjy34UZ/GSAVUaz6wpA==:117 Received: from [72.224.119.118] ([72.224.119.118:58037] helo=[192.168.1.126]) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id B9/1A-02700-4FC0F425; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 18:46:13 +0000 Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 14:45:55 -0400 From: Tod Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: tigers@autox.team.net, Larry Mayfield Subject: Re: [Tigers] Harrington Alpines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Mayf: Everything you ever wanted to know about Harringtons: http://www.harringtonalpine.org/ According to their web site, production of Harringtons amounted to about 384 units. 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I think you'd really want the lines of the LeMans Tigers. Stephen ________________________________ From: Tod Brown To: tigers@autox.team.net; Larry Mayfield Sent: Friday, October 4, 2013 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Harrington Alpines Hi Mayf: Everything you ever wanted to know about Harringtons: http://www.harringtonalpine.org/ According to their web site, production of Harringtons amounted to about 384 units. Tod B382002384LRXFE TAC 864 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/gswaybright@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 15:58:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF11440450 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:58:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E66A0403FE; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:56:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004960.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r94Ls4A1012388; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 14:55:14 -0700 Received: by sj1-dm103.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 43ca9d92) id sj1-dm103.523928e8.20b428; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 14:55:14 -0700 Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 14:55:08 -0700 From: Larry Mayfield Organization: Mayfield Motorsport User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130801 Thunderbird/17.0.8 To: tigers@autox.team.net, "alpines@autox.team.net" References: <524EF090.9000308@mayfco.com> engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-10-04_05:2013-10-04,2013-10-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1310040121 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fast Back Alpines/Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Ok, so I received a quantity produced number for the Harrington cars and that number appears to be 384. Sadly this is not sufficient. A minimum of 500 must have been produced and sold to the general public. If replica bodies were made then a minimum of 50 must have been produced and sold. Salt flats racing does have it rules, lol....So for now, it would appear that the only way to run and Alpine or Tiger body shape is to use a real car sold at a dealership at one time or another. I am going to ask about the making of a mold to make and use a fiber glass replica body however, as the rules looks ambiguous to me. Won't know until I ask though. So for now, and until I ask again, I have enough information to be completely dangerous to myself. Thanks for all the info supplied by all you folks I do appreciate it! larry ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed On 10/4/2013 9:45 AM, Larry Mayfield wrote: > Ok, so how many of the fast back versions of either type were made an > sold? Anybody know? Rules for bodies requires that a certain number > were produced even if a replica. A fast back replica body would be > dang near perfect....if I had data showing how many were made and > sold... Just an additional thought... > > mayf _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 16:02:53 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBFF40539 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:02:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f48.google.com (mail-la0-f48.google.com [209.85.215.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F5F403FE; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:02:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f48.google.com with SMTP id er20so3766762lab.35 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 15:01:07 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=R9ANCO7YmB6oEDY30BG7j0jbtRRsFmJduis9P0dkkqs=; b=qbFa9NYgHF+KNCoSzyO3mw/cAVPsUrCAznfSqZrRsfWCJUfvJrvjkhc6Z2XHShlMWm oZICfG6JntZpr/8FqaQ04Vj/LbZ42TLsTi4VVrpXq7ssMz9JD9Mz5QjQT+dTTGEYdJTz Ml8VfuvDaqnhaOBPBbejJcVHxTQcBrtCf782HVTWz2amDkG4SVMXZo52uCq3i6Ruilre eRX/e5Icr+2OZgREpufhhGKNif0tlsB+lt7jgZ74doSILNEIXcP+dWDoHC6iewA59Oy3 0RipOwE0QeqnVEHNPUgkQGqjVvfkBLkqwcn2XReTVT20P4KBXHbvmv79T6c25dNcW4eu /RtQ== h1mr13897653lam.15.1380924067603; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 15:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.204.69 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:00:37 -0700 (PDT) References: <524EF090.9000308@mayfco.com> <524F393C.506@mayfco.com> From: "michael@michaelshortt.com" Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 18:00:37 -0400 To: "" Cc: "alpines@autox.team.net" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fast Back Alpines/Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Are you trying to fit into a certain class? You can run almost anything from a WWII era droptank to a GMC Motorhome. Michael Shortt On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 5:55 PM, Larry Mayfield wrote: > Ok, so I received a quantity produced number for the Harrington cars and > that number appears to be 384. Sadly this is not sufficient. A minimum of > 500 must have been produced and sold to the general public. If replica > bodies were made then a minimum of 50 must have been produced and sold. > Salt flats racing does have it rules, lol....So for now, it would appear > that the only way to run and Alpine or Tiger body shape is to use a real > car sold at a dealership at one time or another. I am going to ask about > the making of a mold to make and use a fiber glass replica body however, > as the rules looks ambiguous to me. Won't know until I ask though. > > So for now, and until I ask again, I have enough information to be > completely dangerous to myself. Thanks for all the info supplied by all you > folks I do appreciate it! > > larry > > > ______________________________ > drmayf > Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. > 204.913 mph flying mile > 210.779 mph exit speed > > On 10/4/2013 9:45 AM, Larry Mayfield wrote: > >> Ok, so how many of the fast back versions of either type were made an >> sold? Anybody know? Rules for bodies requires that a certain number were >> produced even if a replica. A fast back replica body would be dang near >> perfect....if I had data showing how many were made and sold... Just an >> additional thought... >> >> mayf >> > ______________________________**_________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/tigers/michael@** > michaelshortt.com > > > -- Michael L. 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Thank you _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 17:49:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFEF440533 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 17:49:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f174.google.com (mail-ie0-f174.google.com [209.85.223.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 956BA4051E; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 17:49:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f174.google.com with SMTP id u16so10558559iet.5 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 16:47:30 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Tj88VoCrw6YOGTp9gcTP+pVn8Vub8OB6wsspI3vy47I=; b=wDPEgP5pjqQjw30RLepahgFQdGqP9+bWqvUIP3BrWRYYTcImR6/Ulpd20IlSVkLjw6 /wYkUeQeVsNW7bdYC65O9OtLF1SJXakMYKnRy7Ck9foob/IgfuMevl+jhMxyV9LV0PpV 8EmmjK5kDDbL7Xx4dQ/izGvT665jyTzq/HdlB3wjXI7I1rYYf6+C0IffdGUOLjWynKUf PkZGJEbre/csdf3GkSrkL2uQ5DUpkkSx++rgIC4sVgKzhf0gFqpFbFoFVsm8m4WvCUoN ThJlwnPY7hhIXg+Ko4+hqoDhqLc7OIuzak5rj9RpqY3RUdVG+8EomQ/rMaENsPR4iJTY 5QyQ== zj20mr7020713icb.5.1380930449992; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 16:47:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.76.10 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:47:29 -0700 (PDT) References: <524EF1A7.2060808@mayfco.com> Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2013 09:47:29 +1000 From: michael king To: drmayf Cc: "alpines@autox.team.net" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Body Design... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I can probably help you out on that front... you want to make a 3d model to run wind tests on? Also re: your other questions.. in the UK there used to be several suppliers of fiberglass front wings and rear wings. On the harrington/fastback bodywork... the Kamm tail alpines that ran at LM with the stock hardtops were actually faster in a straight line than the special closed nose harrington that won its class.. so closing the bodywork between the fins is a good idea. The LM Tigers initially had lift on the rear end until they added the small detachable spoiler/flap. Look at Jackie Chochrain and Chris Beightons racers in the UK.. they have added a large gurney flap/spoiler betwen the rear wings to hold the backs of the cars down but still keep s the stockish loo of a sunbeam. On 5 October 2013 02:49, Larry Mayfield wrote: > Hmm, more requests... is there some among you who can do computer sketches > (like using google sketchup)? Looking for one who can make a 130 inch > wheel base car with a swoopy new front nose on it per my specs? Body aft > of the windshield would be pure alpine or tiger. Front would resemble an > upside down ski boat prow...sorta... anybody do that? With and without a > Harrington top... > > mayf > > -- > ______________________________ > drmayf > Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. > 204.913 mph flying mile > 210.779 mph exit speed > ______________________________**_________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/tigers/michael.s.king@**gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 4 20:27:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B52D403D0 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 20:27:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f44.google.com (mail-pa0-f44.google.com [209.85.220.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F618403D0; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 20:27:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id lf10so4925813pab.17 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 19:25:54 -0700 (PDT) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=oTIl2srqh0c9H4awxWx3c5xVR8R8r7ULZqEgFko/RTs=; b=yLxz7NolivRCjfCipmMHc34jNyiMggXMYP1fURq7WlS08yCVsKedY09YaWaSDl1Lvx wQQTyMeN5XMcSxSAeQFgV2RxEwgo6tdfBFCeDc3UjYZm+2IfKP1tfA9XzninjZ7em8LD heHFvAW4huNn4m+I/M1WfGPTwor5AfkHNC48yBJTLN+Tv6FoMai32mliOzYfLDbsSI0t rtZ3uTgz7WpL+Ns7/3iy4aWufz+GqoOtREG7JxHEz92mfkTLzOckpCvWoh7azORIvTk7 oRNUKsKWTbX3bxHIsSME9sRm3rw/HT1OTQwUVmPUoPZ1aG5V+I/ZO/lC5PbD6/Bs9s1o M4SQ== n2mr293198pag.151.1380939954592; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 19:25:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([76.91.103.207]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id hz10sm17775253pbc.36.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 04 Oct 2013 19:25:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay Laifman Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 19:25:54 -0700 References: <524EF090.9000308@mayfco.com> To: drmayf@mayfco.com Cc: "alpines@autox.team.net" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fast Back Alpines/Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I've always thought the Harrington cars were a bit odd. The lines of the back of the roof was either too bubbly or too abrupt or too droopy. But there was ONE I saw that I always thought was "spot on." Ironically, it was not actually a Harrington, but someone's addition of a roof to a stock bodied Alpine. There are pictures of it in the Alpine Horn, the magazine of the UK Sunbeam Alpine Owner's Club - the 118th issue, October 1998. I happen to still have the issue. If anyone wants scanned pictures, let me know. I tried to find the owner and find out what he did. But I was never successful. At one point someone suggested it was a roof from another car, but wouldn't say which one. For some reason a Datsun/Nissan sticks in my mind. I think he also welded a windscreen frame to both, for more rigidity and less weight. The lines all work right. The rear quarter window comes to a point in the back, like an Aston Martin GT. Of course, I also really liked the real Le Mans Harrington Alpine, with the scoop/covered headlights, a la XKE. Not to be confused with the production Harrington Le Mans, with the droopy rear end and no fins. Jay _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 6 16:12:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DA942713 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 16:12:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp451.redcondor.net (smtp451.redcondor.net [208.80.204.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09684403E8 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 16:11:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hargray.com ([64.203.254.40]) by smtp451.redcondor.net ({64f3d0f0-9a92-47a2-ba77-ce0798423d5d}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20131006221011818 for ; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 22:10:11 +0000 Received: from [199.241.211.241] (account geowiz@hargray.com HELO JamesPickardPC) by ispfe2.hargray.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.9) with ESMTPA id 100891362 for tigers@autox.team.net; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 18:10:06 -0400 From: "James Pickard" To: "'Tiger List'" Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 18:09:35 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7C4L39TAKP2aL+TCCPRzPWim0Obw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Sprucing up the engine bay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Any suggestions for getting the dust out of the engine compartment? It isn't bad, but I need to do something. I'm leery of spraying a bunch of water on the electricals. Jim Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 6 17:15:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A7442853 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 17:15:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from col0-omc2-s3.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc2-s3.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E676C40532 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 16:19:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL127-W22 ([65.55.34.72]) by col0-omc2-s3.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 6 Oct 2013 15:17:32 -0700 From: steve wick To: James Pickard , "tigers@autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 15:17:32 -0700 References: <019e01cec2e0$d01960b0$704c2210$@com> FILETIME=[DA836F40:01CEC2E1] Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sprucing up the engine bay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net There's no problem with using a hose on it. You get water from underneath and through the radiator when you drive in the rain. If you feel the need, you can always disconnect the negative battery cable and wait for the engine to dry, but it's really not an issue. Steve (in N. Id.) > From: geowiz@hargray.com > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 18:09:35 -0400 > Subject: [Tigers] Sprucing up the engine bay > > Any suggestions for getting the dust out of the engine compartment? It isn't > bad, but I need to do something. I'm leery of spraying a bunch of water on > the electricals. > > > > Jim Pickard > > B9473298 > > Beaufort, SC > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/srwick@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 6 17:16:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5A642795 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 17:16:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA8040532 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 16:25:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id tp5so14462791ieb.28 for ; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 15:23:20 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=imebAtkfDV4Wmn5xyNIuFzbeD0PqWhKx5r8sgN6fpKo=; b=gjQOwnQwe13i5ER7dgS1O1aI/pBRm79sOPTLD9VC0akLaR0hhvyJZw3XfgJguU54+Z /oI1kotiJtUuovQNNfHCOMtN30b6WoSOKPXfoGBl0hAE6KhBQScK2OglbUooL1AZKPtp hfZ1PueGfj66yIVr9rTV/AiW4ERI9P6quI2AkPZXl1H/tmPcfJ45amfVXYHd5kuyKWf7 TMxm1pCmdFuHgPcOypgyi58nqxdutMHeBhR62I6q3HH/vvBPcQzRbDruviBIiChSvktZ gKTJp7YDFWzCR1vG9Gx8Nzbg8L5f9HMJbRXJ6uP5dobPgTPkGooSzviiWysjd3DwyDQP o4bw== m9mr14730186igt.34.1381098200688; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 15:23:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.76.10 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 15:23:20 -0700 (PDT) References: <019e01cec2e0$d01960b0$704c2210$@com> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 09:23:20 +1100 From: michael king To: James Pickard Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sprucing up the engine bay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net either a damp cloth and wipe around .. or perhaps compressed air? On 7 October 2013 09:09, James Pickard wrote: > Any suggestions for getting the dust out of the engine compartment? It > isn't > bad, but I need to do something. I'm leery of spraying a bunch of water on > the electricals. > > > > Jim Pickard > > B9473298 > > Beaufort, SC > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 6 17:16:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9457E40EBA for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 17:16:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F24740532 for ; Sun, 6 Oct 2013 16:27:21 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=deiland1@elp.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=zd74l_snwRkA:10 a=8A7brI4kjU8C6ETGAX3PRdgeao0=:19 a=cgAobti-AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=kR_29HkWzg4THs0dCAsA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=k5CYBzTX66YA:10 a=koQJ6/IsTHAgRQJ2CVGlCA==:117 Received: from [10.128.132.97] ([10.128.132.97:54471] helo=hrndva-web06-z01) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 9C/A8-01415-563E1525; Sun, 06 Oct 2013 22:25:41 +0000 Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 22:25:41 +0000 From: To: 'Tiger List' , James Pickard Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sprucing up the engine bay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jim, One method is to cover whatever you do not want wet with plastic wrap and then aluminum foil. It will keep about 90 per cent of things dry. I suggest you use the plastic wrap used for shipping. I have found it in different sizes at any store that sells packing supplies. The aluminum foil works very well. I noticed the paint shop even used it when they painted my Tiger years ago to cover all the engine components so they didn't get any overspray. Dan ---- James Pickard wrote: > Any suggestions for getting the dust out of the engine compartment? It isn't > bad, but I need to do something. I'm leery of spraying a bunch of water on > the electricals. > > > > Jim Pickard > > B9473298 > > Beaufort, SC > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/deiland1@elp.rr.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 7 01:41:20 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FBEE428EF for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 01:41:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3773C4054C for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 01:06:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.88]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id a72w1m0091u4NiL01753gV; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 07:05:03 +0000 Received: from sz0058.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id a7521m00E2xZMJ48h752Up; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 07:05:02 +0000 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 07:05:02 +0000 (UTC) From: genepadgett@comcast.net To: tigers@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1381129503; bh=tTbe6Q2vYDLxrR+KJSTwG5WUt1YJSuKkf8miMMJ0Zl4=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=o+MfT1e6V6aG9YSXeqA1399ZUChQM+ACfGyryZIEHoBXmrNdUhGin4J8rGXbKqBu0 CqDBjdk6oa6i3jdkV9VGjZQrXkc37HJyVhtHV6lQ6KagqaDDyFUaV2jOAv/FCODMvT XO+7NJ8YlAXPEP8f+/ZWxQ1PRtCwnHdEi+wcAKITEju95FhTDNdvohZf1xHC2LsqS/ 6OGgd6UdAFWX5DSL1LuFUPYiF8i3KrK2Q32DdPZObyTFTOM+xUmds3v3DkSi00ZFen NKz1w6jKvqGjZKHRmPYgSMGTnznxLTgdfkMRnNDv0/epdtFtVFgf2/gmvrCv0Ifh8n r296FhiKKNXHQ== Subject: [Tigers] Reduced diameter water pump pulley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All, A couple of years ago there was someone on the East Coast making reduced water pump pulleys that looked stock. Does anyone know if they are still available and who would be the person to contact? I currently have one of the Fairmont pulleys, but was thinking I might get a more stock looking one if they were still available and reasonably priced. Thanks, Gene _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 7 08:00:47 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FCB42901 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 08:00:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail3.everyone.net [216.200.145.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3FE4053C for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 07:22:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta004.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r97DL0QA003230; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 06:21:05 -0700 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a207) id dm0213.523928c3.2434ec; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 06:21:03 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.140.57]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 13:20:59 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: , Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 09:20:55 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7DMFydCtAiYVJAS+6Pugu9Rz73KwALta8g engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-10-07_02:2013-10-07,2013-10-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1310070042 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reduced diameter water pump pulley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Gene There is one that has been advertised in TE/AE Rootes Review. Made from 6061 aluminum, satin black anodized, increases speed 13% $120 each add $15 for anodize, $8 shipping Contact: Bobby @ 614-452-1191 rwoolridge@insight.rr.com Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of genepadgett@comcast.net Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:05 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Reduced diameter water pump pulley Hi All, A couple of years ago there was someone on the East Coast making reduced water pump pulleys that looked stock. Does anyone know if they are still available and who would be the person to contact? I currently have one of the Fairmont pulleys, but was thinking I might get a more stock looking one if they were still available and reasonably priced. Thanks, Gene _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 7 10:41:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13D642A84 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 10:41:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f179.google.com (mail-ve0-f179.google.com [209.85.128.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C452140539 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 10:14:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f179.google.com with SMTP id c14so3742270vea.38 for ; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 09:13:10 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=J2NOUpmlnZWkV8JyP9ej5HqCdpdC8sfC6xdJB7w10tw=; b=zxQJAQXquActABk0ON3GoNsYvhjodugySvmQnh7kcSxkp8U+lx7uAdEPXGPlk+txtz MYPWIwV8BlLxiT9jPdkNxP7gUgxRz5BKTL281kyn2h5pEmUlxpzNOLvfN7evRDEsYGyY uW1bVGeJsC+NMlIbwUXGMG3+D00iNGQjLOFqYFF0Br7r2D/zhi5bVFxIVv697FblsLV5 OSyJ1VoE/gARh7EwEj57K7h7GksZHNtC+eb7vot8/lkBsp8qlkX/ztkFlDEuAE8V1nCX NZbeEuoHj4nzJkIz2yTiYolCycz3qu/ABM0fdZRE3sZE/1dARoX5aLceU3mgIUjPKK5W UhaQ== wy10mr22924758vdc.2.1381162390583; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 09:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.218.140 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 09:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 09:13:10 -0700 From: Jay Laifman To: "Tiger's Den" Subject: [Tigers] Flex Fans Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net When going through some more of dad's stuff, I found a number of fans. Two flex fans and one fan with 4 blades, but not equally spaced. The non-flex fan one is in a Ford box. Anyone know what that non-flex one might be? He also had a '66 Mustang with a V8, sold when he bought the Tiger. So some of it might be from that car. I'm now told that the Tiger and Falcon/Mustang shared that fan, but that the overall diameter of the Tiger one was smaller. Anyone know the measurements? I should probably sell these fans. Also, if anyone has an interest in decades of old Sci Fi magazines (Analog, and its various names before it became Analog), going back to the 40's, let me know. Jay _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 7 12:41:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C6C42AAB for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:41:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 267C14042E for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:22:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aHDT1m0021wfjNsA4JLTEY; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 18:20:27 +0000 Received: from sz0058.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aJLT1m00Q2yr1eL8jJLTM0; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 18:20:27 +0000 Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 18:20:27 +0000 (UTC) From: genepadgett@comcast.net To: tigers@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1381170027; bh=McUbx6Pw71f36i9+q1d3eAfVcri5+nfUukgzNa6ZLVk=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=HGJd/ZgGJWOu5noNmD4LNBCV8sMEMblZWNpT3y9Hm3ZL8A/EpN7NiTGwCQ2pdlXVM 1CIjyfHDcowSlLUDGDGfZnzonDuwX3227QWiG/GQVZb+XmXvcR8STjGUYIMr8C/C7a t02gVfcNDYXapn8o+5z6qLs7IDBfHG5SIcA4/HrFTl8iZydy6PJBdQfuGBKJoQioiD ICRq9rO/2l4ZTRM6z8fT2IZU/jfGGUb+pAhBnON2lNih6k9snfQKEe6CD1vn4lxgJJ uped/6Q/zxvQzhkF5hDoEt0MOyeNU1BQTdIjXSVSE6fvd/KiFfrlabD/f4Z4qgETv/ yZL/kk92JcIDw== Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reduced diameter water pump pulley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Many thanks to everyone for the quick responses! I just sent Bobby an e-mail. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Fraser" To: genepadgett@comcast.net, tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 8:20:55 AM Subject: RE: [Tigers] Reduced diameter water pump pulley Gene There is one that has been advertised in TE/AE Rootes Review. Made from 6061 aluminum, satin black anodized, increases speed 13% $120 each add $15 for anodize, $8 shipping Contact: Bobby @ 614-452-1191 rwoolridge@insight.rr.com Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of genepadgett@comcast.net Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:05 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Reduced diameter water pump pulley Hi All, A couple of years ago there was someone on the East Coast making reduced water pump pulleys that looked stock. Does anyone know if they are still available and who would be the person to contact? I currently have one of the Fairmont pulleys, but was thinking I might get a more stock looking one if they were still available and reasonably priced. Thanks, Gene _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 7 13:36:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9E2342ADA for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 13:36:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail3.everyone.net [216.200.145.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0709442AB6 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 13:19:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004959.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r97JIxup025237; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:19:08 -0700 Received: by sj1-dm103.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 401892b5) id sj1-dm103.523928e8.259dd5; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 12:17:15 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Jay Laifman'" , "'Tiger's Den'" Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 15:17:08 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7De8cn0MLGE80uRqqTC32SYxTikgAEsjSA engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-10-07_03:2013-10-07,2013-10-07,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1310070077 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Flex Fans Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jay The Original Tiger fan blade will have a 1 inch center hole; majority of standard Ford fan blades have either a 5/8" or 2 3/8" center hole. Stock Ford fan blades should have a Ford logo and date code or the Ford box should have a Ford part number listed. Stock Ford 4 blade fans were over 17" diameter. Tiger fan blade - C4JZ-8600-B My Tiger 4 blade fan is 14" in diameter Mine has a script "FoMoCo" stamped into each blade with a "9 B" above and a backwards "SC" below the script. Bob Mannel's Book lists C1AA-8600-E 4 blade 14" diameter - ID # C1VV-D used on Comet/Montego 1964 HiPo, previously used on 1961/64 390,406 and 427 Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Laifman Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 12:13 PM To: Tiger's Den Subject: [Tigers] Flex Fans When going through some more of dad's stuff, I found a number of fans. Two flex fans and one fan with 4 blades, but not equally spaced. The non-flex fan one is in a Ford box. Anyone know what that non-flex one might be? He also had a '66 Mustang with a V8, sold when he bought the Tiger. So some of it might be from that car. I'm now told that the Tiger and Falcon/Mustang shared that fan, but that the overall diameter of the Tiger one was smaller. Anyone know the measurements? I should probably sell these fans. Also, if anyone has an interest in decades of old Sci Fi magazines (Analog, and its various names before it became Analog), going back to the 40's, let me know. Jay _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4142 / Virus Database: 3604/6722 - Release Date: 10/04/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 7 16:07:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E4042B5B for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 16:07:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f169.google.com (mail-ve0-f169.google.com [209.85.128.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82C542A96 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 15:46:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f169.google.com with SMTP id db12so4200300veb.0 for ; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 14:44:17 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=O1WxBoB289PMuvhSj/aZ75OsMEcZEyAl5SZPzHeg+QA=; b=WKUgcCRWCX85b5ZMpZS7Xvh9i9MTT05jpW6wXriXA9mLwEGaX+JxMRLNm63dfdA01L DddHbGu5n56nP8gEIdlrDXLyKR1GdvBflSBx2Co3VGLc+leWAUpS/qZ/ruEJ06hVeM9e ryeu2nyRZfpJXstOZD8mu+EzY8dgpJ0eS+lAf8JyS/OfCHTBD7qWSd9+9TpZejwRhht2 +0hPR1HBZhIxiA5C7LwA4nwEtyx+bSZf3YbIeEGGMvptiCyJncbv0P+SR0TBJuL0TWU5 OYWP4IEpKuGUg1qHapYxWBwRhbw8udN9fnEDaxXwzem1jVmTMEWS5z4IZL18iDqj9HeM ACYQ== eq5mr7671486vcb.16.1381182257599; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 14:44:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.104.84 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 14:44:17 -0700 (PDT) References: <2023150851.3795923.1381129502710.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <88B547A3616D485DBAEA6BD0A7B84CB6@ronpc1> Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 23:44:17 +0200 From: Owain Lloyd To: "rfraser@bluefrog.com" Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reduced diameter water pump pulley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Gene, What's the motivation? I could understand _increased_ diameter for high revving engines, but why smaller? More water flow is unlikely to aid cooling and could make it worse. Recirculating airflow is the only issue I've encountered with tiger cooling whatever the engine or climate if the radiator works properly. On Monday, October 7, 2013, Ron Fraser wrote: > Gene > There is one that has been advertised in TE/AE Rootes Review. > > Made from 6061 aluminum, satin black anodized, increases speed 13% > $120 each add $15 for anodize, $8 shipping > Contact: > Bobby @ 614-452-1191 > rwoolridge@insight.rr.com > > Ron Fraser > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto: > tigers-bounces@autox.team.net ] > On Behalf Of genepadgett@comcast.net > Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:05 AM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Reduced diameter water pump pulley > > > Hi All, > > > A couple of years ago there was someone on the East Coast making reduced > water pump pulleys that looked stock. Does anyone know if they are still > available and who would be the person to contact? > > > I currently have one of the Fairmont pulleys, but was thinking I might get > a > more stock looking one if they were still available and reasonably priced. > > > Thanks, Gene > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 7 17:00:58 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA9D42B51 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 17:00:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f182.google.com (mail-ie0-f182.google.com [209.85.223.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7048940537 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 16:13:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id aq17so17763904iec.27 for ; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 15:11:35 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=YJPsZmfXBDBHujxPQPaYtC4OvX0o3wPM7p/qm3r+2IQ=; b=qftdsShoTQ+44bbh5ef6cqk4eYFQ68TyPKkVyFo944WvTOxfkF9bZ4ZfDcb9toeQmL yUmzkLMGLcKEpPUo0SKfZex08a69+0SH5KtLc+chKY0nfqd230kp2ktB5cqdBg91H+Bs LVC8w54hq7i/oQpOIfHrCeP+5/VwofNWLpGwYE49jijtU4jVy7rLzRrsJE6Ezb0qIeyt KtkJIxmlEZU71HLAMrNCJuxfsNXKg75I9KRdDtYBBinlGYg/LS63RBemOOOAmwHj6+Qq XxZiGxlVLi+Xe0g1AJFcdOCm13HYf5F4ApIRZoVJS7CmjOmydXfDiTqrsmrw6wapPOvN xFNg== kt13mr9596icc.70.1381183894915; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 15:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.76.10 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 15:11:34 -0700 (PDT) References: <2023150851.3795923.1381129502710.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <88B547A3616D485DBAEA6BD0A7B84CB6@ronpc1> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 09:11:34 +1100 From: michael king To: Owain Lloyd Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reduced diameter water pump pulley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net On 8 October 2013 08:44, Owain Lloyd wrote: > Hi Gene, > > What's the motivation? I could understand _increased_ diameter for high > revving engines, but why smaller? More water flow is unlikely to aid > cooling and could make it worse. > > The reduced pulley increases the fan speed at idle (well across all.. but idle is the focus) which increases the amount of air moved through the radiator at that problem point when the car is stationary. -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 7 17:34:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E97342B77 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 17:34:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp451.redcondor.net (smtp451.redcondor.net [208.80.204.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747E540543 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 16:58:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hargray.com ([64.203.254.40]) by smtp451.redcondor.net ({64f3d0f0-9a92-47a2-ba77-ce0798423d5d}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20131007225632607 for ; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 22:56:32 +0000 Received: from [199.241.211.241] (account geowiz@hargray.com HELO JamesPickardPC) by fe01.hargray.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.9) with ESMTPA id 26367712 for tigers@autox.team.net; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 18:56:27 -0400 From: "James Pickard" To: "'Tiger List'" Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2013 18:56:27 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7DsHRrCJoS//4ZR2yx2zPXgjGN/g== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Ian Spencer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone have a current e-mail address for Ian Spencer of Alpine fame? Jim Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 7 18:33:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81FC14044E for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 18:33:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f175.google.com (mail-vc0-f175.google.com [209.85.220.175]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24C0742A96 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 17:36:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id ia10so3283999vcb.34 for ; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 16:35:00 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=FexJJPN2v/otpr9a4ErNVl/7wAuhAv22OQkG6LNt4gU=; b=LkOXpq27twJG3kgrohwvZA1dWqLncsfHVt0jcZ7esgzYuWK4bxVRmToHfOPVDjgovl BPrOlstEuMFanyzXODxp0RRxrLBHQXTBtQXziKC8//tGpIB1iqeBbvFbo9MaE1rsehE3 BkEi0KHNaarnpQDdEQtoNkjhleBPRnOwwCYiT/UyiJKxKwPs4NrVr+pCSD38rgoBY/oT 0yRrX+do1M1Qr/bh3ern1aJw50hZmkHfF/n6rN9u5j+qt0frrbNoL9QgD1tvdEHGbXbY gwiDS/n19aLqTg5GNZlF2+H3GGKDGfDVSRzlMWwDwicJtubwpdixV6WanO+x1lQwOpdo hRvw== by8mr29249199vcb.11.1381188900736; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 16:35:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.104.84 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 16:35:00 -0700 (PDT) References: <2023150851.3795923.1381129502710.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <88B547A3616D485DBAEA6BD0A7B84CB6@ronpc1> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 01:35:00 +0200 From: Owain Lloyd To: michael king Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reduced diameter water pump pulley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Seems like a poor fix given the compromise. A shroud and a sealed cross member gap should be sufficient. On Tuesday, October 8, 2013, michael king wrote: > > > > On 8 October 2013 08:44, Owain Lloyd > > wrote: > >> Hi Gene, >> >> What's the motivation? I could understand _increased_ diameter for high >> revving engines, but why smaller? More water flow is unlikely to aid >> cooling and could make it worse. >> >> The reduced pulley increases the fan speed at idle (well across all.. but > idle is the focus) which increases the amount of air moved through the > radiator at that problem point when the car is stationary. > > > > -- > Regards > > Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 7 18:33:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 527B342715 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 18:33:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5895842A96 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 17:40:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id tp5so17683181ieb.14 for ; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 16:39:04 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=QBQ+yiXxcGFPYHpYUBAGb4Bj/sWp7ra4ur2b7HSmmDU=; b=UJAidR2rxeo5HGNQuQeYYx0bbrtZtIC6Ay1PKaSvmle2SYDrHT63LeYTZZvEWffA4v ew8Tmr/p7741XExaq5KY2Fk/YsADL8yMGQBjgfb2w8lCPV6eyJO/PWUtGdALyxM7ktt8 Tr2yNymCwEREpUjwkP2GdP1h1kNhphDbjPn5Tnh9hzzdCz9TxGfCwmivmGUA8J2/2bWg 1dmS/U7fdknGWaegcqSwqftn9p9lPX6yiv+dZrWS98VhHjFW6xQIyaOQmCYmhXdiSdr2 NnL3Eb/XEC0XPGBXFGaNTKWcN4Noitmaxt9BKU4zUR9i+jsKwkxAOaJX8dXinI9uSN+t G6RQ== fn3mr18831024igb.5.1381189144256; Mon, 07 Oct 2013 16:39:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.42.76.10 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 16:39:04 -0700 (PDT) References: <2023150851.3795923.1381129502710.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <88B547A3616D485DBAEA6BD0A7B84CB6@ronpc1> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:39:04 +1100 From: michael king To: Owain Lloyd Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reduced diameter water pump pulley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net As you said if the radiator is up to the job its more about air flow.. and if you block the horn holes and have a good flex fan.. that's probably enough.. or a 10" electric pusher fan that comes on as temps rise. The enclosed shroud and cross member gap will also help. The cars are generally good on the run.. more an air flow issue at idle.. and the reduced pulley is "a" solution.. but certainly not "the" solution. i find with my fluidyne radiator, 10" pusher and horn holes blocked my car is fine in traffic even on 40+ days...and i dont run the shroud. that said.. the carb certainly gets hot. but that's another issue.... On 8 October 2013 10:35, Owain Lloyd wrote: > Seems like a poor fix given the compromise. A shroud and a sealed cross > member gap should be sufficient. > > > On Tuesday, October 8, 2013, michael king wrote: > >> >> >> >> On 8 October 2013 08:44, Owain Lloyd wrote: >> >>> Hi Gene, >>> >>> What's the motivation? I could understand _increased_ diameter for high >>> revving engines, but why smaller? More water flow is unlikely to aid >>> cooling and could make it worse. >>> >>> The reduced pulley increases the fan speed at idle (well across all.. >> but idle is the focus) which increases the amount of air moved through the >> radiator at that problem point when the car is stationary. >> >> >> >> -- >> Regards >> >> Michael King >> > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 7 18:36:48 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89EAC40C00 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 18:36:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E3F42B21 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2013 18:08:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aPKA1m0080cQ2SLA4Q6aEZ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 00:06:34 +0000 Received: from sz0058.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aQ6Z1m00V2xZMJ48WQ6ZZw; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 00:06:34 +0000 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 00:06:33 +0000 (UTC) From: genepadgett@comcast.net To: owain lloyd s=q20121106; t=1381190794; bh=t2UquA0bXBQbQ/+FLVfxR7xy7PBXzSkZls5+PM/A9OA=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=XSur5D4bGwXB57tlsmBxtBxK+DP8RJeFNnXv8PN92VkvCAD285y9IbE0H7+55t8EV vn/6p7Xdi1zYMYZI5YsCXGSTcmYCpeDJR9zuv6TIc7zKgyXKczjg7H4RhWZ96Fv4jk Qx58/Tizcdxrrxs0mxO4jo/zxVXX8hCJ/4orrFwDZopCPZn9oO138UP1Tb3ESYOI1K zNRXtEGkaot8f4m5uyVM0rHZmBO7MaJj+mWRCU/1gpLQx5Ja7TQvTXz2bml6jVuH8t etm92TmXA7Ef9I6Dg2qpY832g8IK9EBq0mmXLgk9Pi1hXY9AvqPOeyGqRZ6728o8lK Ge4+JhLbo5V1g== Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reduced diameter water pump pulley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Owain, I see Michael has already posted the main part of the answer. I would just add that there were positive results from such a change in the in-depth cooling study a few years ago that is posted on the TE/AE website. http://teae.org/cooling-the-tiger/ Somewhere deep in the study they report positive results with conclusions similar to Michael's. Anecdotely speaking, I would say my Fairmont pulley has been helpful. I have heard others who have used it report similar favorable results. That, along with running the engine distributor vacuum advance off manifold vacuum instead of ported vacuum and a six bladed fan have been especially helpful for me with the idle and low speed cooling. And that was after putting in a recored radiator. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Owain Lloyd" To: rfraser@bluefrog.com Cc: genepadgett@comcast.net, tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 4:44:17 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reduced diameter water pump pulley Hi G ene, What's the motivation? I could understand _increased_ diameter for high revving engines, but why smaller? More water flow is unlikely to aid cooling and could make it worse. Recirculating airflow is the only issue I've encountered with tiger cooling whatever the engine or climate if the radiator works properly. On Monday, October 7, 2013, Ron Fraser wrote: Gene There is one that has been advertised in TE/AE Rootes Review. Made from 6061 aluminum, satin black anodized, increases speed 13% $120 each add $15 for anodize, $8 shipping Contact: Bobby @ 614-452-1191 rwoolridge@insight.rr.com Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net ] On Behalf Of genepadgett@comcast.net Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:05 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Reduced diameter water pump pulley Hi All, A couple of years ago there was someone on the East Coast making reduced water pump pulleys that looked stock. Does anyone know if they are still available and who would be the person to contact? I currently have one of the Fairmont pulleys, but was thinking I might get a more stock looking one if they were still available and reasonably priced. Thanks, Gene _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 10:02:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4A940446 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:02:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C824403E2 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 09:44:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id ib11so3958403vcb.28 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 08:42:51 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UnPt+DPcA4FUJgYukF7+W7wmvnr/mdM2dJTevdlav0A=; b=M0+l6CfOJk4Sx+z/G9/6X4iHRtrBuDplvQX6xYaaxHIUvANYqH6aECPGbTjVn/SPIY qSrolZdG1LRrhLYBREPg0Y4KNZmEEcC/vuS63ZYIp142V/llz876FqKVBxDhsKEGP/wu qefIrOtSybV0OCLdgcNdCuW/n7FCL4b+ci5v3A9P9n5Sx4mPLa2/RgY/995SXlww8b/o xlAqmfew4mWatZnLTuveRYmDVGlKujMQmhvi4frn6A9XdBDrCfsI1hg4oK5mjJHL9uXP VIOwwZdU4o0bSvzpIgE1XgDIC6bPyf/mOyVpBxaMh2XavwANfd6SS3572QK7iCJxpJYk hzmQ== a11mr1543136vcz.26.1381246970961; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 08:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.218.140 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 08:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 08:42:50 -0700 From: Jay Laifman To: "Tiger's Den" Subject: [Tigers] Restoring Hardtop Rear Windows Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net When I was going through my dad's stuff in the garage this weekend (he could never throw anything possibly valuable away - including all those old Analog SciFi magazines I mentioned). One of the things I found was the original rear window from the hardtop. It's in the box that the new one came in (kind of like the original Tiger fan that he put in the box for the Maverick 6 blade, as Gary educated me about). The window is somewhat yellowed. I called Rick to see if he wanted it. He said he definitely keeps originals around to use to make new ones. (He also said he is having a hard time with the S1 and 2 ones - and the last possible vendor broke his last one. So if anyone has one to give him at some point, remember he could use one). Now a days, they have all those kits for restoring the plastic covered headlights on modern cars that have become scratched and yellowed. I was wondering if any of those kits could do the same for the hardtop rear window. I know a lot of them come with a orbital sander/polisher. But, a collegue at work just told me she had some guy come and redo her VW ones and never used a machine at all. I know exactly how bad her lights were - completely scratched and yellowed. Now they are clearer than glass. I don't know what chemicals he used. But, either way, another possibility to explore to save the original window. Jay _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 14:23:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12D7640454 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 14:23:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm41-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm41-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.87.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D2C403DA for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 13:30:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.183] by nm41.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2013 19:28:49 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.159] by tm19.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2013 19:28:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1078.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2013 19:28:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 6013 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Oct 2013 19:28:49 -0000 s=s1024; t=1381260528; bh=4yfodS8bj0tm6rfAMfCMy7othSYydRBaD8HlN8yOmZ0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vPCHdqI+rAbrVEsW6f0z2I88Sl3kVT5fWOs1RXSYU3mrEj3PgQA3iWEcaAQf+Co0xN2HKk4DuXRU14KFqGSQHiTZfJ7uzAN2GKFmQZsuPa2rHAIw7iJ4JqdoDe/FCLd17IvY6FhywS0x1adCu++bLPw+nx+QeUCp4sue1NLCRgw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gM58V1odzhe7LjBpjnKPkALmDw/IlOEEtJhJBI+W52OgTYW71cXBDrqFkBrSH5RJxTwjyyKH5AsekCv01oZof5ZZ9OAYFd/inneRoxNNMuPe4oUr8Ot6i+WyJDE+vtG3dVIJxo0mYfJf++hnzuYl85TBb8O+b2G+AlohsxSw66M=; aUoacJ1ImBBZd56fL3TUom9_33LQmsp9H.2RMhmDLFr9Wtl0RW9ecK9qzG3l mK0B4ulgVAMBT_jLBlUqrSdmrsGXNwbvS9o8jWBj6n.g0A_bbCH1Khz5aGjU hu2DLIqpYBzWmjuD_qAg2tB9FyZXe3rtvp5iLmsizY2fLIng9wOpkIeNkwl9 Auet6a7twT.FN431f9IW148jVVzg84okfN94xVAM5FvTRQqj4n_Unek9z7Rq ECOg1imi2QiHq34eIYjQm1LgEt.jQ5sFszZoE_f_P5j.G5MkITiUXZVHWTGv zJR00YlB9RWwrbiu067lgiFUhlAwm_9p7GGcp_NGstK6TF.blpZR999eAKLV 9XEPSo2dcUi0b.HLySuE4kjPeVnT5qHozUpWKGXGIQRZcVklTAoNxBlq.Vw. 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What type of screw head and size holds the 2 dash defroster vents? Are there any other parts that go on or around the vents? DEFROSTER NOZZLES 4 #8 3/8 SMS PAN,SL ??? - Is this correct? PAN PAN HEAD SL SLOTTED ORIG ORIGINAL FASTENER Is there a bracket that holds the foot dimmer switch to the firewall? If so would need used? - Anyone have one they would be willing to part with? Does carpet cover the transmission tunnel back of the shifter to the rear shelf? The armrest sits on top but not the entire length. My carpet kit did not have a piece for this? Also what about the rear fender wells - is this carpet or something else? I need 1 or 2 of the 90 degree elbows that attach the defroster hoses to the defusers. Please! What do the knobs look like that go onto the vent\temp controllers in the dash? Mine are missing and would need to buy a pair? And no, not what you are thinking! Is there a second bracket that hold the windshield washer bottle to the body - front passenger side engine compartment other than just the one bracket that holds the bottle? Either I am missing a few holes or there is a second bracket. As always, thank you for the information and any pictures you could provide is greatly appreciated! Regards Joel Martin _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 15:09:26 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DDB40437 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:09:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10075403FA for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 14:15:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ajz91m00416AWCUA7kDLE0; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 20:13:20 +0000 Received: from sz0058.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id akDL1m00U2xZMJ48SkDLwM; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 20:13:20 +0000 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 20:13:20 +0000 (UTC) From: genepadgett@comcast.net To: tigers@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1381263200; bh=Nj4DnUzAfSwXpPL3tYeaDQ2T7PFOoZcjWE+sariE2sQ=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=FaBfTsqLEwiGHoN/Qbtd2O+RxdD8gbfSzuKq+nKwDMZFuhqiY51Wqr6X35q3w+4y3 gOt+XtQTivwENrpRnBHZhlVDAyxYvPWl5eiN0fJGGtkABwIUZ1gSd1ul+G/8yzC3h5 HMY+2j54CJxNcEPGXalYjtaboENLCqlSQ0QhPtjE3WCu5S4sAuhdHIGRgnsdRlHbl7 MKLTKfExyGouNI3t8G5cFLPKWpM+zTcu2/TDJE650zh1UmWby0xPhjW/5i7ZwmbZuc cMSFRBjS9mZloIgfyC9Th4bNY4NhP4C8CRkgHclQvsHs3THbxA6x4hMer03TJ3GY4R MJ5JkKNNKQLow== Subject: [Tigers] Antifreeze Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I normally prefer just distilled water and Water Wetter for my engine coolant during normal driving season. Unfortunately the car has to sit in an unheated garage here in Northern Il. during the winter. This year it will have my new 347 motor and a new Griffin aluminum radiator in it. I want to put the right antifreeze in it, one that if by chance I did take the car out before the spring coolant flush would be good for the car. Griffin says to use a non-silicate type antifreeze. Trying to learn more about these things I am getting a headache. I did come across the following on the internet. It is in an article from 2005 in Motor magazine entitled "Cooling System Service Update". GM, VW/Audi and some European makers use OAT coolants with no silicates or phosphates. Japanese companies have been moving to an OAT with phosphates, but oppose a key organic acid in GM DexCool. Chrysler Group, Ford U.S.A. and BMW use basically the same antifreeze as Mercedes, a low-silicate hybrid formula. The entire article is at http://www.motor.com/article.asp?article_ID=938 . Based on the above it would seem I should go with something the Japanese use for their cars. I do not have a personal problem with that. But apparently their stuff is also expensive and I like to be smart with my money. Apparently not all ingredients are listed by all antifreeze makers on their containers. After reading the above, I decided to ask the List if anyone has plowed this field before me and if so, what brands have they turned up that people with a lot of aluminum in their engines cooling system should use. TIA, Gene _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 16:22:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF324051F for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 16:22:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f196.google.com (mail-qc0-f196.google.com [209.85.216.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49A2A40405 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:17:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f196.google.com with SMTP id x12so1517769qcv.3 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 14:15:15 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=IkRFWaR/yX+RHUPmaQ1WLSpeb99shBFtL93J5uD4dgk=; b=H1lyUql7zwV6N/SY2N/Dx5SLpnevwGDv2A42bdRR/HrmV6wO2bNFrUohju6VrhOOGj SPM0OZ7dVqzmLxCB1edtDFE1kc9qoLEWYSbU3iTc6VcyQIU44y2JHLtNc2+y7b/0aQmW hW7BKBFnxIOXOiuTt2Byrfp6/Hvl9drVC7jH9jkTEyOGFKsqI3/xA+e9kgztOQxY/AuZ h3rGxMQNiuymOsoIUyNcqAFT7owOnhwZ6H4mmWnO6HQrejWQMtqBMRRz/kVB6J4tQNYm xOxsQGtjYY0VpUcROp9Qa4XUYkFZG/uSroncObQYTjnRUOgOeR5nj1EWzcEbGLJU+gn3 OzIg== f9mr5083095qev.49.1381266914940; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 14:15:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.12.101 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 14:15:14 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:15:14 -0400 From: Tom Parker To: Jay Laifman Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Restoring Hardtop Rear Windows Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net "Now a days, they have all those kits for restoring the plastic covered headlights on modern cars that have become scratched and yellowed. I was wondering if any of those kits could do the same for the hardtop rear window." That would be worth a try, Jay. I don't think it'll hurt; if all Rick wants is a template he won't care if it's scratched. Given the expense and condition of the original hardtops on E-Bay I've considered buying one of the fiberglass tops from Honeybournemouldings in the U.K.. Does anybody on the list have any experience with them? Tom '67 Mark 2 On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Jay Laifman wrote: > When I was going through my dad's stuff in the garage this weekend (he > could never throw anything possibly valuable away - including all those old > Analog SciFi magazines I mentioned). One of the things I found was the > original rear window from the hardtop. It's in the box that the new one > came in (kind of like the original Tiger fan that he put in the box for the > Maverick 6 blade, as Gary educated me about). > > The window is somewhat yellowed. I called Rick to see if he wanted it. He > said he definitely keeps originals around to use to make new ones. > > (He also said he is having a hard time with the S1 and 2 ones - and the > last possible vendor broke his last one. So if anyone has one to give him > at some point, remember he could use one). > > Now a days, they have all those kits for restoring the plastic covered > headlights on modern cars that have become scratched and yellowed. I was > wondering if any of those kits could do the same for the hardtop rear > window. I know a lot of them come with a orbital sander/polisher. But, a > collegue at work just told me she had some guy come and redo her VW ones > and never used a machine at all. I know exactly how bad her lights were - > completely scratched and yellowed. Now they are clearer than glass. I > don't know what chemicals he used. But, either way, another possibility to > explore to save the original window. > > Jay > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 16:24:11 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A62C42715 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 16:24:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93DA140405 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:21:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.140]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 498E470123CEF; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:19:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mod005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mod005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.196.17]) by mtaomg-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E3A72E000088; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:19:33 -0400 (EDT) From: FHSLOTH13@aol.com Full-name: FHSLOTH13 Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:19:33 -0400 (EDT) To: genepadgett@comcast.net, owain.lloyd@gmail.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1381267174; bh=KjRLBfz9rYnphNh3s/RvQ5w4XKNZHb+nfxBkH6GdvFc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Z1KWOqgFHrwagERl+hQlY4TEn2O/13ln+vALv8dt/CrFAYJ9WoplTGuHyqBvxqcYg vpTdEMwzF52t0TFT2CZ+D9noXt8NDTJxHFgW8OKIKmEgSDhHQDUl+QZVVLbjD0BZU0 p9s1X5bILBG7ANBWi+4clwfpUntqRHqfTPmcOP+o= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338c525476e564d4 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reduced diameter water pump pulley Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I blocked the horn holes, had the radiator cleaned, added a smaller water pump pulley and a 13" flex fan. My stock MKI went from running 215 F to running 190 F on hot days in traffic. I did all this for about $75. Well worth the time, money and effort since the cabin temperature decreased as well by approximately the same amount. Fred Baum Cooler running 9470768 In a message dated 10/7/2013 8:34:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, genepadgett@comcast.net writes: Hi Owain, I see Michael has already posted the main part of the answer. I would just add that there were positive results from such a change in the in-depth cooling study a few years ago that is posted on the TE/AE website. http://teae.org/cooling-the-tiger/ Somewhere deep in the study they report positive results with conclusions similar to Michael's. Anecdotely speaking, I would say my Fairmont pulley has been helpful. I have heard others who have used it report similar favorable results. That, along with running the engine distributor vacuum advance off manifold vacuum instead of ported vacuum and a six bladed fan have been especially helpful for me with the idle and low speed cooling. And that was after putting in a recored radiator. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Owain Lloyd" To: rfraser@bluefrog.com Cc: genepadgett@comcast.net, tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 4:44:17 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Reduced diameter water pump pulley Hi Gene, What's the motivation? I could understand _increased_ diameter for high revving engines, but why smaller? More water flow is unlikely to aid cooling and could make it worse. Recirculating airflow is the only issue I've encountered with tiger cooling whatever the engine or climate if the radiator works properly. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 16:24:30 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E92B4053D for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 16:24:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f44.google.com (mail-la0-f44.google.com [209.85.215.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7391840405 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:22:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f44.google.com with SMTP id eo20so7516730lab.31 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 14:20:56 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=KtkeGZLadijSDhbx+mOyPHaoPnET8rzHsrn48TmIsrw=; b=L5xiuzybvb619vljlVeXkT2WBkTEjIxKMAAeV1bNeUhFRnzOwyoJhTE27K1mgommpj pcpX0FQSgLU5f+Ioe/uf/cTMIakacVAMa223cowMfPO9QMcDkRhUbsuEflPYn9q4fjh+ L6Ef/awT7fT1U5xTMck57s0DYLD+A3v1cCig+8VYCcLWv0cEk8pEsl368IRKFKUy1ZKX HSem6KnG8DhSEI3gjEQSGhkp2XJ7K8u4mcLnVTJ8QKavjfW6cUq+y5LJMwHnaOU0JdM7 0IgsT+nqVWgvngu3B6WTiHb9lDRB5zBqPp5ufB/OCXI1L+GxAxwjpln9viIG2MWL3TLw BaCA== ky5mr3132010lab.18.1381267256135; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 14:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.204.69 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 14:20:26 -0700 (PDT) References: <286690943.3817170.1381190793819.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <835686741.3837432.1381263200364.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> From: "michael@michaelshortt.com" Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:20:26 -0400 To: genepadgett@comcast.net Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Antifreeze Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I use a year around mix of 33% AF ( Peak 100%, undiluted ) 66% Distilled water and a bottle of Water wetter. Same mix used by light aircraft and it cools better than 50/50. Michael Shortt On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 4:13 PM, wrote: > I normally prefer just distilled water and Water Wetter for my engine > coolant during normal driving season. Unfortunately the car has to sit in > an unheated garage here in Northern Il. during the winter. > > > This year it will have my new 347 motor and a new Griffin aluminum > radiator in it. I want to put the right antifreeze in it, one that if by > chance I did take the car out before the spring coolant flush would be good > for the car. Griffin says to use a non-silicate type antifreeze. > > > Trying to learn more about these things I am getting a headache. I did > come across the following on the internet. It is in an article from 2005 in > Motor magazine entitled "Cooling System Service Update". > > > GM, VW/Audi and some European makers use OAT coolants with no silicates or > phosphates. Japanese companies have been moving to an OAT with phosphates, > but oppose a key organic acid in GM DexCool. Chrysler Group, Ford U.S.A. > and BMW use basically the same antifreeze as Mercedes, a low-silicate > hybrid formula. > > The entire article is at http://www.motor.com/article.asp?article_ID=938 . > > > Based on the above it would seem I should go with something the Japanese > use for their cars. I do not have a personal problem with that. But > apparently their stuff is also expensive and I like to be smart with my > money. Apparently not all ingredients are listed by all antifreeze makers > on their containers. After reading the above, I decided to ask the List if > anyone has plowed this field before me and if so, what brands have they > turned up that people with a lot of aluminum in their engines cooling > system should use. > > > TIA, Gene > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael@michaelshortt.com > > > -- Michael L. Shortt Savannah, Georgia www.michaelshortt.com michael@michaelshortt.com 912-232-9390 This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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Thank you _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 16:46:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41CDF40526 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 16:46:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B750F40405 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 16:02:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta005.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r98Lxhop015391 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:00:09 -0700 Received: by dm0219.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4018b187) id dm0219.52532583.2db98; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 14:59:17 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Joel Martin'" , "'Tiger List Serve'" Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:59:08 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7EY/t25Z6HLPVbRYqubPE7Q7PalAAChtcg engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-10-08_08:2013-10-08,2013-10-08,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1310080125 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Questions and parts needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Joel Nozzle screws - 9731064 - #4 x 3/8" - 4; this is a binder head screw, most likely slotted Bezel screws - 9731085 -#4 x 1/2" - 4; this is an oval head screw, probably chrome since this is a finish screw, Phillips drive, use polished SS screw for this if you don't find chrome ones Yes there is a bracket for the dimmer switch, sit under the carpet, bracket is fairly simple you might be able to make one I think there was a very thin vinyl type sheet on the tunnel; center cubby box cover most of it There is a vinyl and cardboard piece for the fender wells Vent/ temp have black plastic knobs Windshield washer bracket has 2 parts; the round cage for the bottle and an "L" bracket with 2 screws for the cage and 1 bolt to the body Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Martin Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 3:29 PM To: Tiger List Serve Subject: [Tigers] Questions and parts needed All Working on the under dash and interior pieces and have a couple of questions and a couple of parts needed only available used. What type of screw head and size holds the 2 dash defroster vents? Are there any other parts that go on or around the vents? DEFROSTER NOZZLES 4 #8 3/8 SMS PAN,SL ??? - Is this correct? PAN PAN HEAD SL SLOTTED ORIG ORIGINAL FASTENER Is there a bracket that holds the foot dimmer switch to the firewall? If so would need used? - Anyone have one they would be willing to part with? Does carpet cover the transmission tunnel back of the shifter to the rear shelf? The armrest sits on top but not the entire length. My carpet kit did not have a piece for this? Also what about the rear fender wells - is this carpet or something else? I need 1 or 2 of the 90 degree elbows that attach the defroster hoses to the defusers. Please! What do the knobs look like that go onto the vent\temp controllers in the dash? Mine are missing and would need to buy a pair? And no, not what you are thinking! Is there a second bracket that hold the windshield washer bottle to the body - front passenger side engine compartment other than just the one bracket that holds the bottle? Either I am missing a few holes or there is a second bracket. As always, thank you for the information and any pictures you could provide is greatly appreciated! Regards Joel Martin _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 16:47:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFFA427BD for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 16:47:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E714140405 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 16:22:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta005.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r98MK9jx031201; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:20:23 -0700 Received: by dm0224.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4018b187) id dm0224.52532578.25095; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:20:20 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Joel Martin'" , "'Tiger List Serve'" Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 18:20:08 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7EY/t25Z6HLPVbRYqubPE7Q7PalAAEGEUg engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-10-08_08:2013-10-08,2013-10-08,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1310080129 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Questions and parts needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Joel I believe the vent screws on my Tiger are the original ones; they are shiny - chrome and Pozi-drive. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Martin Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 3:29 PM To: Tiger List Serve Subject: [Tigers] Questions and parts needed All Working on the under dash and interior pieces and have a couple of questions and a couple of parts needed only available used. What type of screw head and size holds the 2 dash defroster vents? Are there any other parts that go on or around the vents? DEFROSTER NOZZLES 4 #8 3/8 SMS PAN,SL ??? - Is this correct? PAN PAN HEAD SL SLOTTED ORIG ORIGINAL FASTENER Is there a bracket that holds the foot dimmer switch to the firewall? If so would need used? - Anyone have one they would be willing to part with? Does carpet cover the transmission tunnel back of the shifter to the rear shelf? The armrest sits on top but not the entire length. My carpet kit did not have a piece for this? Also what about the rear fender wells - is this carpet or something else? I need 1 or 2 of the 90 degree elbows that attach the defroster hoses to the defusers. Please! What do the knobs look like that go onto the vent\temp controllers in the dash? Mine are missing and would need to buy a pair? And no, not what you are thinking! Is there a second bracket that hold the windshield washer bottle to the body - front passenger side engine compartment other than just the one bracket that holds the bottle? Either I am missing a few holes or there is a second bracket. As always, thank you for the information and any pictures you could provide is greatly appreciated! Regards Joel Martin _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 17:36:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48B0540454 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 17:36:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm2.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm2.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C89D403D3 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 16:56:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.155] by nm24.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2013 22:55:03 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.132] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2013 22:55:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2013 22:55:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 84752 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Oct 2013 22:55:03 -0000 s=s1024; t=1381272903; bh=scODUrq66zfbssBd9JBSWFGkVHtdy7jr+gJSlZJf/SQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mRGYF6KvoDIe9dJihe0nr+dpiOrDUslocr1YImShc7hQi2W/6mG7yeAV9Jvn0zDkYM0VPgxwHa+7TA6CuPwlSi3PtmJ2Sfh6oTP13ikJJgSU2OB31BDp+R/WpfWDUcQNSFk9g9ljxm/9RyNPgNo1EJdDTCDm+oML7oYFhOi7q8Y= s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=A8s6TEDulpzJOxKVH6KaImzl5vAufCqGmvb42/AtmbwTfyReNTP+s/gnDp0Jbj9DnBxxCNevT0yTx9zxJH86kz/0cHwUsq0qvBc/WEqK8TCJzYj4fbuRTv3z7UfROHYaIA0QG2PeHTRTX4di30iCKHdRMeiH3jTdIUgd4HDglX8=; yi9l6MHMnSMeNXKbf_aCGhZkKgEqjd1Gm66yk2Vr_G6FEBbQNpTjWNCXEtkP SKPEShkzCziGLquL4oFIlFPjAI0UpSXFbXIEtvPBjDY2IJTTTAmlEChrLQQm KuGqHzTBAsPNNP2LXk.uO8aERlb1GJUn8mo1kfe2LQ5vJc5AeXNVTm7FlmPV m2zgb6bRgq1yme1STt8do8Gjm_T.2S5iiuZ65pbqksIJNiHOdTYsA8J6BcWJ YhhBQTGUw4puFv.syRTVDwh1h50Ey0fJxfuID.dBWtEgeJjShNjQymVzv.RP zTPkKWtXtlAB7sF01IzbTfyY_pITuzHn3Eoz1QSibX5SPe2iSLw1N0HRKkht Kd.gjdgL5c9T_5azvFKtu5QPRNhenIUnP.Fc9m14fpgaK1giYTIh2cllbQqQ 57uMxOtPf1D90CbakFMP_vNGAqfu2u7KCBbPOxTkUuRde_cJ7JisHRae1oPW qRqcvccG5.Pe8bn5CIE0NbhDB2yOE0UA0HmdrpkqHrGKMSEHPIWgOz6FpOky TvTpLI.gv7celzN5OZw.4jt9nDvQmIpMlkuzYNNyheDIWYrAF5io.uNYS_2H 6_SKOnK67wOnvNRsx3ICsBR7mQ3CRCVLV0r1cKKS6oqADFdbAYmZNspcwCoq SThwmSRqwuPxy7oH2J60w3OHBF4ZFaSDKO_6QC5dOwy6jNQfR2pZ7 Received: from [107.223.50.32] by web184402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 08 Oct 2013 15:55:02 PDT wqAKSWYgeW91IGFyZSBsb29raW5nIGZvciB0aGUgU2lsaWNhdGUgZnJlZSBvcmdhbmljIGFjaWQgc3R1ZmYgbG9vayBmb3IgRGllc2VsIGFwcHJvdmVkIENBVCBFQy0xLCBJIHJ1biB0aGlzIHN0dWZmIGluIHRoZSBQb3dlciBTdHJva2UgYW5kIGl0J3Mgbm9uLXNpbGljYXRlLiBJIHRoaW5rIHlvdSBjYW4gZmluZCB0aGUgZ3JlZW4gc3R1ZmYgaW4gbm9uLXNpbGljYXRlIGZvcm11bGFzIHRvbyBidXQgeW91IG5lZWQgdG8gY2hlY2sgdGhlIGNvbnRhaW5lciwgZXNwZWNpYWxseSBpZiBpdCBzYXlzIGNvbXBhdGkBMAEBAQE- References: <286690943.3817170.1381190793819.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <835686741.3837432.1381263200364.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 15:55:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Sandy Ganz To: "genepadgett@comcast.net" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Antifreeze Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net If you are looking for the Silicate free organic acid stuff look for Diesel approved CAT EC-1, I run this stuff in the Power Stroke and it's non-silicate. I think you can find the green stuff in non-silicate formulas too but you need to check the container, especially if it says compatible in all cars. Color doesn't always indicate a specific formula. That being said I have the same griffin radiator and just used off the shelf pre-diluted green prestone anti-freeze and was done with it. People get way to analytical with this stuff, our old rusty iron blocks will thank for anything besides tap water. The diesel community is beyond fanatical with Anti-freeze/Coolants for a few other good reasons but for our SBF motors you can't go too far wrong with any good quality (silicate or free of silicates) as long as you perform some sort of sensible maintenance on your cooling system per the coolant specs. As I understand it the biggest problem for silicate based is that it drops out of solution at some point and wears out the pump impellers. Again maintenance solves that. Just be sure to run anti-freeze if you are in a freezing environment, as Gene mentioned watter-wetter is not a good thing to help with winter freezing :) Flush your system if you are going to change to an OAT style, for that matter good idea to do it at some point in the cars life. Zerex, Shell Rotella, and Final Charge (easy to find) have OAT EC-1 Red style coolant. I don't know much about DEXCOOL but that may be an alternative too. Sandy From: "genepadgett@comcast.net" To: tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 1:13 PM Subject: [Tigers] Antifreeze I normally prefer just distilled water and Water Wetter for my engine coolant during normal driving season. Unfortunately the car has to sit in an unheated garage here in Northern Il. during the winter. This year it will have my new 347 motor and a new Griffin aluminum radiator in it. I want to put the right antifreeze in it, one that if by chance I did take the car out before the spring coolant flush would be good for the car. Griffin says to use a non-silicate type antifreeze. Trying to learn more about these things I am getting a headache. I did come across the following on the internet. It is in an article from 2005 in Motor magazine entitled "Cooling System Service Update". GM, VW/Audi and some European makers use OAT coolants with no silicates or phosphates. Japanese companies have been moving to an OAT with phosphates, but oppose a key organic acid in GM DexCool. Chrysler Group, Ford U.S.A. and BMW use basically the same antifreeze as Mercedes, a low-silicate hybrid formula. The entire article is at http://www.motor.com/article.asp?article_ID=938 . Based on the above it would seem I should go with something the Japanese use for their cars. I do not have a personal problem with that. But apparently their stuff is also expensive and I like to be smart with my money. Apparently not all ingredients are listed by all antifreeze makers on their containers. After reading the above, I decided to ask the List if anyone has plowed this field before me and if so, what brands have they turned up that people with a lot of aluminum in their engines cooling system should use. TIA, Gene _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sganz@pacbell.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 20:42:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3054044D for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 20:42:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80CA3403F4 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 18:51:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.74]) by qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id amey1m0031c6gX851opXG3; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 00:49:31 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([71.224.10.100]) by omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id aopV1m00U29WXmF3jopX3p; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 00:49:31 +0000 Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 20:49:29 -0400 From: ironbeast To: Tigers@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1381279771; bh=LomCUlgGNZ0sESXUedKUpEaOGRE/U1VLjrV1VkEWWF8=; h=Received:Received:Date:Subject:Message-ID:From:To:Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EXLFWbGjXo4B58BNJfnY+4eUZCsmn+pgqDKUs87HzAZY/Jx6ZLeNnJingyg2c/iyL 1zvBU2wjcmvAp9eGNzsjxV3dSBIDV+3zD5s5WC8El3y3x3h9MOVBw5qRfWqV/YM08N T1cvxuTG7X/fxlenNnlxiY0805HJExLPXbjIbTrZEy6Q/GDqmluE2mhn8LNd6qsJLM 5nHmZI5TCIeCh5rX2lzzy3Fy1jbReIq3popD8LIRSuVZ+LJbUWGJ84UX1+TgsvLLIg gM0xXgR2cdnDitVS+INiM/v/K8zU+uC2H1xtTCHkxHIoPY6q4levOg/1nCwGWsYHn5 0xEJXNmxEWGHg== Subject: Re: [Tigers] Questions and parts needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I believe the water bottle "L" bracket is available from C.A.T. I bought one about 6 months ago. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Ron Fraser Date: 10/08/2013 5:59 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 'Joel Martin' ,'Tiger List Serve' Subject: Re: [Tigers] Questions and parts needed Joel Nozzle screws - 9731064 - #4 x 3/8" - 4; this is a binder head screw, most likely slotted Bezel screws - 9731085 -#4 x 1/2"B - 4; this is an oval head screw, probably chrome since this is a finish screw, Phillips drive, use polished SS screw for this if you don't find chrome ones Yes there is a bracket for the dimmer switch, sit under the carpet, bracket is fairly simple you might be able to make one I think there was a very thin vinyl type sheet on the tunnel; center cubby box cover most of it There is a vinyl and cardboard piece for the fender wells Vent/ temp have black plastic knobs Windshield washer bracket has 2 parts; the round cage for the bottle and an "L" bracket with 2 screws for the cage and 1 bolt to the body Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Martin Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 3:29 PM To: Tiger List Serve Subject: [Tigers] Questions and parts needed All Working on the under dash and interior pieces and have a couple of questions and a couple of parts needed only available used. What type of screw head and size holds the 2 dash defroster vents?B Are there any other parts that go on or around the vents? DEFROSTER NOZZLESB 4B #8B 3/8 SMSB PAN,SL ??? - Is this correct? PANB B B PAN HEAD SLB SLOTTED ORIGB ORIGINAL FASTENER Is there a bracket that holds the foot dimmer switch to the firewall?B If so would need used?B - Anyone have one they would be willing to part with? Does carpet cover the transmission tunnel back of the shifter to the rear shelf?B The armrest sits on top but not the entire length.B My carpet kit did not have a piece for this?B Also what about the rear fender wells - is this carpet or something else? I need 1 or 2 of the 90 degree elbows that attach the defroster hoses to the defusers.B Please! What do the knobs look like that go onto the vent\temp controllers in the dash?B Mine are missing and would need to buy a pair?B And no, not what you are thinking! Is there a second bracket that hold the windshield washer bottle to the body - front passenger side engine compartment other than just the one bracket that holds the bottle?B Either I am missing a few holes or there is a second bracket. As always, thank you for the information and any pictures you could provide is greatly appreciated! Regards Joel Martin _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ironbeast@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 20:48:46 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD0E4298F for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 20:48:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13414403D8 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 19:27:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.52]) by qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ani61m00517UAYkA5pRBH6; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 01:25:11 +0000 Received: from sz0058.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id apRB1m00F2xZMJ48ZpRBQj; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 01:25:11 +0000 Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 01:25:10 +0000 (UTC) From: genepadgett@comcast.net To: rfraser@bluefrog.com s=q20121106; t=1381281911; bh=Yv/SR+vYmR4+8TA81D5S4e/K8FqpoNw8LhCBnMU9XtI=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=RsJfy8tSbC7m7Nm5xuFLdXppJ+gxV59/PMZZtLC9uAWEo9Lp/VowCEvVuA7xqW2ul GQ12uDumdtTXyD0yMPBVyhnayLhAdpKELBkdqBARvajap9jBXxUHaRmOtIN2h5P6/2 0VET6d0T0/c0OGihg1aiTwo8c3I9bbprAaGIaDC+aJCq1/DWutKuAdmzbYYLb77vxW XdvdsCFeOwrRFKuIlrRDj0L6AfDQOp2S+AjAnyfQMQQ6++5oB6nth8fosvf11JMp+M 6T6J71oyLUER5eageUEUDr0JeRAryVQ3NaK1r4jJIKGl2yX3YkuJnCA9X+HLKEJSK0 Gy4qCbOB1wxXA== Cc: Joel Martin , Tiger List Serve Subject: Re: [Tigers] Questions and parts needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I would hazard a guess that all screws used on the Tiger that look like Phillips really are Posi-drives. Seems like everyone I look to replace has been. Regular Phillips are close enough for my purposes, especially if I can get the (formerly) shiny ones in stainless. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Fraser" To: "Joel Martin" , "Tiger List Serve" Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 5:20:08 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Questions and parts needed Joel I believe the vent screws on my Tiger are the original ones; they are shiny - chrome and Pozi-drive. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Martin Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 3:29 PM To: Tiger List Serve Subject: [Tigers] Questions and parts needed All Working on the under dash and interior pieces and have a couple of questions and a couple of parts needed only available used. What type of screw head and size holds the 2 dash defroster vents? Are there any other parts that go on or around the vents? DEFROSTER NOZZLES 4 #8 3/8 SMS PAN,SL ??? - Is this correct? PAN PAN HEAD SL SLOTTED ORIG ORIGINAL FASTENER Is there a bracket that holds the foot dimmer switch to the firewall? If so would need used? - Anyone have one they would be willing to part with? Does carpet cover the transmission tunnel back of the shifter to the rear shelf? The armrest sits on top but not the entire length. My carpet kit did not have a piece for this? Also what about the rear fender wells - is this carpet or something else? I need 1 or 2 of the 90 degree elbows that attach the defroster hoses to the defusers. Please! What do the knobs look like that go onto the vent\temp controllers in the dash? Mine are missing and would need to buy a pair? And no, not what you are thinking! Is there a second bracket that hold the windshield washer bottle to the body - front passenger side engine compartment other than just the one bracket that holds the bottle? Either I am missing a few holes or there is a second bracket. As always, thank you for the information and any pictures you could provide is greatly appreciated! Regards Joel Martin _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/genepadgett@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 8 21:48:19 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3354442954 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:48:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49FD40454 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:17:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70ED3A0242 for ; Tue, 8 Oct 2013 21:17:20 -0600 (MDT) Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2013 21:17:20 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 To: Tigers List Subject: [Tigers] Team.Net changes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net You may or may not get this in a timely fashion. The appropriate dials have been tweaked so that autox.team.net is now on the new network. But it takes some time for the new information to get spread around the world, probably less than a day in most cases. But you may see some glitches in sending and receiving email, don't worry, it will all settle down soon. mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 9 06:58:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A92C40524 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 06:58:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from ivic0.sogetel.net (pop3.ivic.qc.ca [66.187.114.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E17434041B for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 06:31:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ip160.125-126-74.sogetel.net ([74.126.125.160] helo=D7F0WHF1) by ivic0.sogetel.net with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VTsvW-0004L7-GT for tigers@autox.team.net; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 08:31:42 -0400 From: "denis mercier" To: Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 08:31:47 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] T5 transmission Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Guys ! Is some of you has a T5 AMC Concord or Spirit transmission for sale ? It's look like to be the best tailhousing to fit the original Tiger shifter hole. Thanks ! 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[156.34.170.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ex7sm43302918vdb.4.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 09 Oct 2013 07:42:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dave Munroe" To: "Mark J Bradakis" , "Tigers List" References: <5254CAC0.5010500@bradakis.com> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 11:42:00 -0300 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Team.Net changes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mark: Will this new platform communicate in HTML??? BlackberryZ10 users (I know - I know!) need to know... Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" To: "Tigers List" Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 12:17 AM Subject: [Tigers] Team.Net changes > You may or may not get this in a timely fashion. The appropriate dials > have been tweaked > so that autox.team.net is now on the new network. But it takes some > time for the new > information to get spread around the world, probably less than a day in > most cases. > But you may see some glitches in sending and receiving email, don't > worry, it will all > settle down soon. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/dave@munroe.ca _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 9 08:53:57 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2540F429A0 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 08:53:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from tx2outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (tx2ehsobe001.messaging.microsoft.com [65.55.88.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D985B40454 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 08:51:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail96-tx2-R.bigfish.com (10.9.14.238) by TX2EHSOBE006.bigfish.com (10.9.40.26) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.22; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:51:04 +0000 Received: from mail96-tx2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail96-tx2-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E54940013C; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:51:04 +0000 (UTC) H:edgetransport.garmin.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: pass (mail96-tx2: domain of dynastream.com designates 204.77.163.11 as permitted sender) client-ip=204.77.163.11; envelope-from=Theo.Smit@dynastream.com; helo=edgetransport.garmin.com ;t.garmin.com ; Received: from mail96-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail96-tx2 (MessageSwitch) id 1381330262876638_1151; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:51:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TX2EHSMHS026.bigfish.com (unknown [10.9.14.228]) by mail96-tx2.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE61930004B; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:51:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edgetransport.garmin.com (204.77.163.11) by TX2EHSMHS026.bigfish.com (10.9.99.126) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.227.3; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:51:02 +0000 Received: from OLAWPA-EXHT02.ad.garmin.com (10.5.143.142) by edgetransport.garmin.com (192.168.18.220) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.347.0; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 09:50:58 -0500 Received: from OLAWPA-EXMB06.ad.garmin.com ([169.254.5.51]) by OLAWPA-EXHT02.ad.garmin.com ([10.5.143.142]) with mapi id 14.02.0318.004; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 09:51:01 -0500 From: "Smit, Theo" To: denis mercier , "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] T5 transmission Thread-Index: AQHOxO/7gJ4xas4XjkK1XCz9vsFvyZnscpIQ Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:51:01 +0000 References: <5247CFE835FB4803BE46565086385570@D7F0WHF1> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.5.143.129] Subject: Re: [Tigers] T5 transmission Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Given all the other things you have to do to make that work and the rarity of that transmission (today), it would be much more straightforward to use Tom Hall's T5 kit. The exchange rate is even somewhat favorable (compared to years ago, anyway). http://www.tigerengineering.net/ Cheers, Theo > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers- > bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of denis mercier > Sent: October 9, 2013 6:32 AM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] T5 transmission > > Hi Guys ! > Is some of you has a T5 AMC Concord or Spirit transmission for sale ? > It's look like to be the best tailhousing to fit the original Tiger > shifter hole. > Thanks ! > Denis. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/theo.smit@dynastream.com > > ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. 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Thank you. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 9 09:09:17 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 566E7429D8 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 09:09:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f177.google.com (mail-vc0-f177.google.com [209.85.220.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 636E8403D3 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 09:03:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id hv10so595521vcb.36 for ; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 08:03:15 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=eEx23iB3i8AQSKqcjEgG1vwnAIfm/8aVAukdXQRTwa8=; b=RaZ7nZ1KOG0gwO3oBnGExREGK09nTVfHycDXoJyqT2s1eE/QPzUT++89ypnCLJ2+vv 7q3B9OmFS8IWSlLvqMbZxvqGv/G6e7zDtRUQtbKgxW9wbqiDSDupE62kxekQ9jgYOUL9 yFHM8Rp4ysCzmNb54kcnDzqY8Tuih/i33dRPBNsadWPeoA8SL4ExqZCHhwuxlZnXD4BU c9OfOeEfVMYJeb/PqevGZu6P5ImjSVaG19mOxlwY0OT/y0RnnD8zC3/bK1dA/Ko7mlln h8mLUdQuMCSfR8Saaq/DUnEKsXJAeN/jnLtsT7ywQTeBILq+sU2oMTphyc8LRA/FqLkF jdiQ== s2mr424342vcf.43.1381330995049; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 08:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.218.140 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 08:03:14 -0700 (PDT) References: <5254CAC0.5010500@bradakis.com> Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 08:03:14 -0700 From: Jay Laifman To: Dave Munroe Cc: Tigers List Subject: Re: [Tigers] Team.Net changes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Everyone, and I mean everyone, in my office and my home makes fun of my Blackberry. They all have iPhones. But, all I need is email and phone. So I'm sticking to it. On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 7:42 AM, Dave Munroe wrote: > Mark: > > Will this new platform communicate in HTML??? > BlackberryZ10 users (I know - I know!) need to know... > > Dave > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" > To: "Tigers List" > Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 12:17 AM > Subject: [Tigers] Team.Net changes > > > You may or may not get this in a timely fashion. The appropriate dials >> have been tweaked >> so that autox.team.net is now on the new network. But it takes some >> time for the new >> information to get spread around the world, probably less than a day in >> most cases. >> But you may see some glitches in sending and receiving email, don't >> worry, it will all >> settle down soon. >> >> mjb. >> ______________________________**_________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/tigers/dave@munroe.ca >> > ______________________________**_________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/tigers/jay.laifman@** > gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 9 09:46:56 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DDA842A0C for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 09:46:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE844292E for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 09:27:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from HPamdX2 ([unknown] [173.58.229.205]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MUE00IKJQWQGDA2@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 10:26:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "Buck Trippel" To: "Smit, Theo" , "denis mercier" , References: <5247CFE835FB4803BE46565086385570@D7F0WHF1> <7495733F0DF7644CBABA4EA216EF4E151A244C7A@OLAWPA-EXMB06.ad.garmin.com> Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 08:26:50 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] T5 transmission Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tom Hall is still selling his T-5 tail housings but I get the feeling that this might be his last batch. After those are sold I doubt he'll make more. Buck Trippel -----Original Message----- From: Smit, Theo Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2013 7:51 AM To: denis mercier ; tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] T5 transmission Given all the other things you have to do to make that work and the rarity of that transmission (today), it would be much more straightforward to use Tom Hall's T5 kit. The exchange rate is even somewhat favorable (compared to years ago, anyway). http://www.tigerengineering.net/ Cheers, Theo _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 9 15:54:34 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208BE40446 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 15:54:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from wavecable.net (mail.wavecable.net [76.14.0.235]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C28540419 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 15:22:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [76.14.96.71] (HELO starstream.net) by wavecable.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2.8) with ESMTP id 734871303; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 14:21:02 -0700 Received: from STARMAIL [76.14.96.71] by starstream.net (SMTPD-12.2.0.235) id 7973000b07b80295; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:30:23 -0700 From: "DERRICK SCHMIDT" To: "Mark J Bradakis" , "Tigers List" Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 14:30:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Team.Net changes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Just want to sincerely thank you for keeping this forum going. Derrick ---- Original Message ---- From: "Mark J Bradakis" Sent: 10/8/2013 8:58:42 PM To: "Tigers List" Subject: [Tigers] Team.Net changes You may or may not get this in a timely fashion. The appropriate dials have been tweaked so that autox.team.net is now on the new network. But it takes some time for the new information to get spread around the world, probably less than a day in most cases. But you may see some glitches in sending and receiving email, don't worry, it will all settle down soon. mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 9 21:48:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29623427B3 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 21:48:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80062403DE for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 21:17:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65873A0258 for ; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 21:16:57 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 21:16:57 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 To: Tigers List References: <5254CAC0.5010500@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Team.Net changes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Dave Munroe wrote: > Mark: > > Will this new platform communicate in HTML??? > BlackberryZ10 users (I know - I know!) need to know... > > Dave > No, the mailing lists are still as they were, it is just a change in network connections. The sunbeam forum at http://www.team.net/forums is not so restricted regarding content. mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 10 07:50:40 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F27E940512 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 07:50:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qe0-f48.google.com (mail-qe0-f48.google.com [209.85.128.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B37540449 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 07:16:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qe0-f48.google.com with SMTP id d4so1789293qej.21 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 06:16:23 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=i5+U1j1eKoWLz+0g+no+GOFVpTKiMWHPzSYuwOB7JWM=; b=Aiql+Yb8xwnMXcS2f3VcjE5soq/dM4RvxroA+/1MO8vLaapBnut/zoPXU7Br0+QKV7 CNeQrP0VszhPY7rO99RyFA4DpdvAMgHq/7EUTqT1XMbHw0rb6V78bZ/i8ZVHmZSM4Yks zCE3MOxFrXh7DnCdJIqCDAnA09aTrnd7eUJ5g= d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=i5+U1j1eKoWLz+0g+no+GOFVpTKiMWHPzSYuwOB7JWM=; b=cEtvsG2oNu0nYp+PNz1PnjY6Lqz4M7DbN9VrUTP7mk/WvrvpxTXC3COv4otxjzhTBV 62zvb6UZxk+Qwyj5h5nMhQce6JOIO3Qp2kYytpl/9/5jB1zheqqccOjWYjDjoux6qqEn awuiLWdP/Bn6CIlHV00X4fLtuxLXm2XS6T9dvVx4GRwn0QRwpDmj+xwjq+Mx9hdzDYu6 DV22S3RHQaTK4FlGpeRi7ENfY0J+z/P1RPmzAZ589vyHXXcl/Y0ddZRF3vcbgnXTumDe 0maH9Aa6ZZL8ub7+EPk6+dxDOwhSthV0F+lDlCNIpSAXQ+88yj0H82g0TO1G35J/GR2r pv1g== ht10mr2535136qeb.27.1381410982904; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 06:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DavePC (DRMONS0540W-156034170254.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.ns.bellaliant.net. [156.34.170.254]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id h2sm86509917qev.0.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 10 Oct 2013 06:16:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dave Munroe" To: "Mark J Bradakis" , "Tigers List" References: <5254CAC0.5010500@bradakis.com> <52561C29.4030309@bradakis.com> Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 10:16:18 -0300 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Team.Net changes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for the heads up Mark: Still love this List, even if I can't participate with my mobile... Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J Bradakis" To: "Tigers List" Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Team.Net changes > Dave Munroe wrote: >> Mark: >> >> Will this new platform communicate in HTML??? >> BlackberryZ10 users (I know - I know!) need to know... >> >> Dave >> > > No, the mailing lists are still as they were, it is just a change in > network connections. > The sunbeam forum at http://www.team.net/forums is not so restricted > regarding > content. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/dave@munroe.ca _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 10 14:08:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4804032A for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 14:08:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1E240067 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 13:51:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bUgK1m0050vp7WLAFXrjaB; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:51:43 +0000 Received: from sz0058.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id bXrm1m00R2xZMJ48RXrmsq; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:51:46 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:51:46 +0000 (UTC) From: genepadgett@comcast.net To: michael@michaelshortt.com, sganz@pacbell.net s=q20121106; t=1381434703; bh=R/m1hJo8d3SmueJT456+/eFe6o2UsugUFAW0PqbZ1PQ=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=SYumTLILrPEXDvNsBIFZPbqY73e25tdY+fTz5LP/n7OBQ+pAU/dq0FnKwx/5Fi8Vf xJCv8TV9+2GId1bV+C2TvXhOhQLXzM1a22FFQXQ4d/3kWfvzVaa2/nXQDOoqGWz4NC U+Q0L6GB+HjC/LFsxGkkViYPxKUEwHo8niG+zC0d0FMA9CvXEz7FKUlQOm/GX6m3X5 MmeDOndMqXitRtSVB3Gl7arRkQhsNylU6yXetxY8B76H2DUwQn466rACngC5fn8Zs1 HEPU9lgUSY4fgbBs7FuhyMHaGTtMw7ABsvkXstUkqOGwx0dQpJHEJfbxOGajiiqVdC 9EvawL6BRyD5Q== Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Antifreeze Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Michael and Sandy, Many thanks for sharing your knowledge on this. Is has been a big help. Gene _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 10 20:49:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 698D942EF9 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:49:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f51.google.com (mail-pa0-f51.google.com [209.85.220.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCBF342F0A for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 20:21:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id kp14so3636367pab.24 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:20:59 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=9S3gwJwQ8sezT7aiaswFx0i8th9J6AirRIiylXUdNto=; b=e4XLXIB0xSr2OqkMaOErvn8Eo+/N0Y9EL7GdGtzQdqoWlL372JgTLH1ur/MKOxodyU HkxtyngIE6+/qXJvDQa1TkuUK7tAnIi1IyM74fibcJoROGAEF4y08y7zUDgZIr/+lUWj iD+9reEADj0X34rzvGC3KTUc9+ZBxG/imrLK2tF8gIIBZ+VlxPCX8BRsm0wLiO77+W5n Y2GrBitGL+ZFskhGdstdfMUdqAheTv+z0MWTSyKxggXQin/28s2yJ4v5QnDClz6ad0vl nB4i2oHdm3B8fKQgiN55Z+TWBXLwwlM+cAcMshZMOWGpaI9Fz9o4lUKymuhUMnpRIswg xbnw== hn2mr125890pad.69.1381457580567; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.69.11.129 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Oct 2013 19:13:00 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2013 22:13:00 -0400 From: Alexander Washick To: ironbeast Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Questions and parts needed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All If any body is looking for the water bottle holder and the mounting bracket, we will be reproducing exact copies of the originals in the next 30-60 days. Also in the same time frame we will be making sets of hardtop headliner rods, the aluminum pads between the front cross member and the frame, original throttle cable and throttle spring retainer brackets. We will be concentrating many metal parts that are not available for the Tiger anymore. Al & Ryan (my son-in-law) RYAL on Ebay On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 8:49 PM, ironbeast wrote: > I believe the water bottle "L" bracket is available from C.A.T. I bought > one about 6 months ago. > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Ron Fraser > Date: 10/08/2013 5:59 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: 'Joel Martin' ,'Tiger List Serve' < > Tigers@autox.team.net> > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Questions and parts needed > > Joel > Nozzle screws - 9731064 - #4 x 3/8" - 4; this is a binder head > screw, most likely slotted > Bezel screws - 9731085 -#4 x 1/2"B - 4; this is an oval head screw, > probably chrome since this is a finish screw, Phillips drive, use polished > SS screw for this if you don't find chrome ones > > Yes there is a bracket for the dimmer switch, sit under the carpet, bracket > is fairly simple you might be able to make one > > I think there was a very thin vinyl type sheet on the tunnel; center cubby > box cover most of it > > There is a vinyl and cardboard piece for the fender wells > > Vent/ temp have black plastic knobs > > Windshield washer bracket has 2 parts; the round cage for the bottle and an > "L" bracket with 2 screws for the cage and 1 bolt to the body > > Ron Fraser > > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Joel Martin > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 3:29 PM > To: Tiger List Serve > Subject: [Tigers] Questions and parts needed > > > All > > Working on the under dash and interior pieces and have a couple of > questions > and a couple of parts needed only available used. > > What type of > screw head and size holds the 2 dash defroster vents?B Are there any other > parts that go on or around the vents? > > DEFROSTER NOZZLESB 4B #8B 3/8 > SMSB PAN,SL > ??? - Is this correct? > > PANB B B PAN HEAD > SLB SLOTTED > ORIGB ORIGINAL FASTENER > Is there a bracket that holds the foot dimmer > switch to the firewall?B If so would need used?B - Anyone have one they > would be willing to part with? > > Does carpet cover the transmission tunnel back of > the shifter to the rear shelf?B The armrest sits on top but not the entire > length.B My carpet kit did not have a piece for this?B Also what about > the > rear fender wells - is this carpet or something else? > > I need 1 or 2 of the > 90 degree elbows that attach the defroster hoses to the defusers.B Please! > > What do the knobs look like that go onto the vent\temp controllers in the > dash?B Mine are missing and would need to buy a pair?B And no, not what > you > are thinking! > > Is there a second bracket that hold the windshield washer bottle to the > body > - front passenger side engine compartment other than just the one bracket > that holds the bottle?B Either I am missing a few holes or there is a > second > bracket. > > As always, thank you for the information and any > pictures you could provide is greatly appreciated! > > Regards > Joel Martin > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ironbeast@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/alw6464@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 15 00:31:45 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3532C4296E for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 00:31:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from atl4mhob08.myregisteredsite.com (atl4mhob08.myregisteredsite.com [209.17.115.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 507EF4041C for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 00:27:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailpod1.hostingplatform.com ([10.30.71.113]) by atl4mhob08.myregisteredsite.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r9F6R2qX004911 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 02:27:02 -0400 Received: (qmail 25897 invoked by uid 0); 15 Oct 2013 06:27:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO PeterPC) (peter@tcltd.pro@162.156.110.124) by 0 with ESMTPA; 15 Oct 2013 06:27:02 -0000 From: "Peter Sziklai" To: Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2013 23:26:58 -0700 Thread-index: Ac7Jb4zUoLFzsJqvSyeO2ZE2jHV3Pw== Content-language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Tiger for Sale in New Jersey eBay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hello; There is a green Tiger for sale now on eBay which presents well in pictures and description. I know that it does not have the original engine, as it was built as a 260 powered car and it currently has a built 289. The other changes seem to be the standard upgrades for drivability. Does anyone know anything about this particular car? There are 40 hours left to auction end. Thanks _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 15 22:52:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F0943106 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 22:52:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm5.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CE8342F59 for ; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 20:41:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.156] by nm17.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Oct 2013 02:41:12 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.136] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Oct 2013 02:41:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1012.access.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Oct 2013 02:41:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 1171 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Oct 2013 02:41:12 -0000 s=s1024; t=1381891271; bh=JTO2CzRxovARLwLdaXJFO14yfajP+I1DMwIKOyiTGzs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GQtwVPnyQScvZfa/ijVqKnUT3uc0SLc0Ev30BQLN3ACjMkRnHfJL6/dELW6LIIPH5EnfArym8w/eVKZtjwe5B7xbYiGONhNmx0F+Y7f6CZL0TH59V0ctTHyd8y6HkTbcnr3Y/orYz5ffhIoMaTwDPQ2Ks2ETxHxkzrV5JLixXgQ= s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VCq+eGKr1W2back3j92DeHIi67jeyynlpl6q+9PdRQw54wimMJIrHuUsfsGsIWfeXL9DR9QSueThrphxM7GcBpeS1vgtbbUfiYSO7Mc7XbmeS9rZKMdlI8K6W23YjqT75qWyEazEvqWcezKsAEZ8h0bIRTxR6PJzGFk5sJMCDDg=; EqrRey.ooR5e1w7ZpBpvCBGp1GAxtUB3x5_DqqLwDgBt6pYYxTXQsVHBkhkb Uphx.458CYv2y6X4L.LRkuudRxIxLvQHL6j8.wM9uswVUTAFm5KSS2jH9mqj 94XXCtXT9YB_90k9wFs984MPpFNY7OG4rMevUTUVgizYFRMoMdiINf2Es59G fVRX4laGfD5qC.eA9HHz3pZ7wmSThOhRfLVmXsbOXrNo6wOWIRhTEh4_Pdmi r8s5aOwuPYbYFlxZBjG2hNMrLm.ocueYVF0L77qY71lzriXlAgTa2JoxliqR mfhXtoPVfGXKxbgsweRn.tY5frrLiKc5keElZcWoxTW_uL9n5Z9FWDMoxj5Y ImkrG1eR1rXkQZVqMS5No1DGC4U2GAp9pguYp.YhiTjgPxbWGQDuzx5Tfa.k aFZYsQOtu4R89qxAOkT6VkbNewfUiTWp4TWPIsLNNF6IoT5.GtpzWpQZoBZz A8N.0uPvQdwB1tqpJc29Lj6fdWSdtfifvgXem0C6nAjET6_DkU.iGJW9KEyr 3F.SMhzIatPWFJbXika_r4CAa8.eERMj1GDildJni Received: from [70.243.253.42] by web182205.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 15 Oct 2013 19:41:11 PDT wqBIZWxsbyBhbGwsCkkgaGF2ZSBkZWNpZGVkIHRvIHNlbGwgbXkgMTk2NyBNS0lJLsKgIEl0IGlzIGEgdmVyeSBvcmlnaW5hbCBjYXIgVEFDJ2QgYW5kIGluIHRoZSByZWdpc3RyeS7CoCBDYXJuaXZhbCBSZWQsIG5ldmVyIGluIGFuIGFjY2lkZW50LCB3aXRoIGNvbXBsZXRlbHkgb3JpZ2luYWwgZHJpdmV0cmFpbi7CoCBEcm9wIG1lIGFuIGVtYWlsIGlmIHlvdSB3b3VsZCBsaWtlIGFkZGl0aW9uYWwgaW5mb3JtYXRpb24uwqAgCgpUaGFuayB5b3UsCkRhdmUgR2lsbW9yZQpMZWF3b29kLCBLcwpDZWxsIDkxMy0BMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 19:41:11 -0700 (PDT) From: david gilmore To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] selling my 67 MKII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hello all, I have decided to sell my 1967 MKII. It is a very original car TAC'd and in the registry. Carnival Red, never in an accident, with completely original drivetrain. Drop me an email if you would like additional information. Thank you, Dave Gilmore Leawood, Ks Cell 913-488-1459 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 18 06:09:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5472242FB9 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 06:09:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp413.redcondor.net (smtp413.redcondor.net [208.80.204.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE1AD40539 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 06:09:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hargray.com ([64.203.254.40]) by smtp413.redcondor.net ({f682051a-8ae4-4456-9822-a84ca1296676}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20131018120829338 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 12:08:29 +0000 Received: from [199.241.211.241] (account geowiz@hargray.com HELO JamesPickardPC) by ispfe2.hargray.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.9) with ESMTPA id 102451978 for tigers@autox.team.net; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 08:08:23 -0400 From: "James Pickard" To: "'Tiger List'" Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 08:07:26 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7L+Wa6DjWY4lUXTw28LSPbUr6HNA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Replacing door windows Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Any words of wisdom before I attempt this? James Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 18 07:46:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE1342FD5 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 07:46:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f173.google.com (mail-lb0-f173.google.com [209.85.217.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB57E42A55 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 07:45:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f173.google.com with SMTP id o14so3125690lbi.4 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 06:44:34 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=8hm+1fE8dGjepPtnLd3Wf6bKXw45PASmjgADTyqWWMQ=; b=J7JGaRhdUoSPGQB8PKWbJh/Y2G/qs8mIjZoT9MjkWVBuUpYdSJW6SU5FY6dFhZqaER 807mldjx0P5Y+5PEVt+S9BiEFNi/NGRkBNKpDQp05BGFkF/GqNus9DuQ/JwxcZg/XzeZ IIeqlpTDobwWbfeDQKxyeH5Lx8plKnRjHReGQIM38cn2nXWn2aAMM+S5r6+4nndA2dWK ccTATCywYeu29JxNy+ntn93lNCbnoVH/XT4FN8hDXSMhKGaBgH/e/YPZqwYpOdEnILor XFSzuJxBNRGj42LBWYZ9+w/ycZa4NCMSP0bZmZtda2AldITZbzlK6TrSjR9mru0vhQY8 H73A== zs3mr2707051lbb.2.1382103874785; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 06:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.204.69 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 06:44:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.204.69 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 06:44:34 -0700 (PDT) References: <026d01cecbfa$c02b0370$40810a50$@com> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 09:44:34 -0400 From: "michael@michaelshortt.com" To: James Pickard Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] Replacing door windows Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Use painters tape on the 3 exposed edges of the door glass and on both sides of the window seal opening. The edges can put a hurting on paint if a slip occurs and the door can be damaged by the glass. Michael Shortt On Oct 18, 2013 8:09 AM, "James Pickard" wrote: > Any words of wisdom before I attempt this? > > > > James Pickard > > B9473298 > > Beaufort, SC > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael@michaelshortt.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 18 15:29:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC70A42F86 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 15:29:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp413.redcondor.net (smtp413.redcondor.net [208.80.204.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DD1640408 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 15:29:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hargray.com ([64.203.254.40]) by smtp413.redcondor.net ({f682051a-8ae4-4456-9822-a84ca1296676}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20131018212844763 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 21:28:44 +0000 Received: from [199.241.211.241] (account geowiz@hargray.com HELO JamesPickardPC) by ispfe2.hargray.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.9) with ESMTPA id 102571016 for tigers@autox.team.net; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 17:28:37 -0400 From: "James Pickard" To: "'Tiger List'" Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 17:28:39 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7MSNGsefZ4k5toR8m/StTE1bjtTA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Replacing door windows Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net OK, now I need more than wisdom. Following the Workshop Manual, Body Section, page 5, I'm good until the line: " _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 18 18:14:06 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBEB740542 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:14:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp413.redcondor.net (smtp413.redcondor.net [208.80.204.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C84940542 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:13:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hargray.com ([64.203.254.40]) by smtp413.redcondor.net ({f682051a-8ae4-4456-9822-a84ca1296676}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20131019001234944 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 00:12:34 +0000 Received: from [199.241.211.241] (account geowiz@hargray.com HELO JamesPickardPC) by fe01.hargray.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.9) with ESMTPA id 27524374 for tigers@autox.team.net; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 20:11:48 -0400 From: "James Pickard" To: "'Tiger List'" Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 20:11:50 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7MSe6vJlXZXpl6SmSB90+ZQp63ZA== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Replacing door windows Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net OK, now I need more than words of wisdom. Following the Workshop Manual, Section O (Body), page 5, I'm good until I get to the line: "Spring our the regulator operating arms from their locations." From this point on, the instructions may as well be in Greek. The terminology doesn't match the parts labeled in the drawing. Is there a source for step-by-step instructions written in English? Thanks. James Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 18 18:18:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 336B142F8B for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:18:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f170.google.com (mail-lb0-f170.google.com [209.85.217.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99E5040542 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 18:17:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lb0-f170.google.com with SMTP id u14so989744lbd.29 for ; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 17:17:27 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=BMMZsKtcVcvEB23x3rCK80RUB+tCOYU2cE0DrcShPx4=; b=WQ/nr0pHzLLJx3B58/3CdfMy/oZJG06Ic7isy4VPrTCSjMWcbrzSe4ctFbesfk8P+s 4Ae+jvU90On6rDGui7qdsGV4ainIQtkoXv+IR97W8p5rvv6ssBet8abiO2XVs/9A2HuQ n6L5L30668BvTTI1sTe/HZsxsNl6cMxUEypX0xvlYRouyKgr3iPSCy9lH6VXc5b76umR PZDZMAUNgXvjSHDueZ7TPfqU/l3g31iPNP1Dg0uwynJuWFpd5ZqevUryG07fEPv5ZY5t WXUbP5t1Bh0WakWvGyGNhC9AtY/+2HHKRZdK0MyT8zRfMdIWHhxWiniCX7Ga1Is8uiCb mAxw== Fri, 18 Oct 2013 17:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.204.69 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 17:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.204.69 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Oct 2013 17:17:27 -0700 (PDT) References: <02e501cecc5f$dee9d970$9cbd8c50$@com> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 20:17:27 -0400 From: "michael@michaelshortt.com" To: James Pickard Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] Replacing door windows Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net You are taking photos as you go I hope. Your documented efforts may help the next person. Have you looked at Alpine instructions online? It can't be that different. Michael On Oct 18, 2013 8:14 PM, "James Pickard" wrote: > OK, now I need more than words of wisdom. Following the Workshop Manual, > Section O (Body), page 5, I'm good until I get to the line: "Spring our the > regulator operating arms from their locations." From this point on, the > instructions may as well be in Greek. The terminology doesn't match the > parts labeled in the drawing. Is there a source for step-by-step > instructions written in English? Thanks. > > > > James Pickard > > B9473298 > > Beaufort, SC > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael@michaelshortt.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 19 09:47:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 928CE42982 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 09:47:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2709F403DF for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 09:43:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004960.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r9JFhMSB029268; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 08:43:22 -0700 Received: by dm0219.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4018928e) id dm0219.52532583.183b82; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 08:43:19 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'James Pickard'" , "'Tiger List'" Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 11:43:16 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7MSe6vJlXZXpl6SmSB90+ZQp63ZAAlsW8g engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-10-18_03:2013-10-18,2013-10-18,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1310190069 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Replacing door windows Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net James Unfortunately this is British Speak and probably over simplified text with steps left out. "Spring out the regulator operating arm" = I believe means - Remove regulator assembly. It has been way too many years for me to remember to much about this procedure so I don't want to comment and point you in the wrong direction. Go Slow - Take pictures - make good notes about how you removed the glass - write a Tech Tip. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Pickard Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 8:12 PM To: 'Tiger List' Subject: [Tigers] Replacing door windows OK, now I need more than words of wisdom. Following the Workshop Manual, Section O (Body), page 5, I'm good until I get to the line: "Spring our the regulator operating arms from their locations." From this point on, the instructions may as well be in Greek. The terminology doesn't match the parts labeled in the drawing. Is there a source for step-by-step instructions written in English? Thanks. James Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 19 11:14:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7E642F51 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 11:14:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from ivic0.sogetel.net (pop3.ivic.qc.ca [66.187.114.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E8BC403F5 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 11:14:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ip160.125-126-74.sogetel.net ([74.126.125.160] helo=D7F0WHF1) by ivic0.sogetel.net with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VXa5z-0002Fr-Dq for tigers@autox.team.net; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 13:13:47 -0400 From: "denis mercier" To: Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 13:13:40 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Piston rings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Guys. His someone can tell me where can i find 0.010 piston rings for a Ford 260 cu in engine ? Thanks. Denis. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 19 11:23:18 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3133742982 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 11:23:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f46.google.com (mail-la0-f46.google.com [209.85.215.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C3A403FA for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 11:23:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f46.google.com with SMTP id eh20so1776462lab.19 for ; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 10:22:29 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=B2gCtiz5pNccHOr3I103+e7L2AE9jj3STeq+wdKElTU=; b=0vmMhT+7o5av9lEoaWbOXMhuOx38mII+INSUqV4k/ereFZtwESNQG7cwyZ66gA3EqZ gd/W2ik9lES+ULyohX+iFFsJX1EV06nEBkHkw+jQDl17cTeG6eNQYKkpAVmsr+Y/4Fyu MMS6tv9Fi+KN9TsLpdFSniIIGknhKvpQp/VYwnfa/FT0JT62mYPdwyxzjkLnWe1GJKkI LzeyR2TMRe1QgAV3IPt4Ly9JEdmoaahLj1Dp9/HYzwXD2pu/5hQwYtDG8uwormguEvzo rchEGX1vo06rbSlINhFFj/NXZtMOJqyeqZuDTAhU+JeT1WGE9/oVvQAWbOI7/D76maY3 RJSA== bc20mr382052lab.37.1382203348856; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 10:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.204.69 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 10:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.204.69 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Oct 2013 10:22:28 -0700 (PDT) References: <9351A9B7D37743B8AD2093821BFE3177@D7F0WHF1> Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2013 13:22:28 -0400 From: "michael@michaelshortt.com" To: Mercier Denis Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Piston rings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Summit Racing Michael Shortt On Oct 19, 2013 1:14 PM, "denis mercier" wrote: > Hi Guys. > His someone can tell me where can i find 0.010 piston rings for a Ford 260 > cu > in engine ? > Thanks. > Denis. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael@michaelshortt.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 20 09:04:15 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B3C342F6F for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:04:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22BC8403EE for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 09:04:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by qmta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id fRuZ1m00j17dt5G5CT3Uzz; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:03:28 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.102] ([71.224.10.100]) by omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id fT3T1m00c29WXmF3ZT3URe; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 15:03:28 +0000 Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 11:03:27 -0400 From: ironbeast To: tigers@autox.team.net s=q20121106; t=1382281408; bh=h9t2oYUsUyssr0rtGezU3vSp1NvJZHb38hbQ2wL2lkA=; h=Received:Received:Date:Subject:Message-ID:From:To:Reply-To: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hqVnrcY48kRmGcSzR+ZhhNfGyNnq2KlpFH+UG475u8CCCxTPpby+oM8R8Qb/Th9pR cczLcH4E8NXvhCzq/uqBSiFB0kY+lEiuX6JZ6L4w+fPiPHkUqFfZnKfo5Z+l5czu2S QaT/08UIpNHRirB3feUNQYF32I7hNivmcmbkF5WcsHlpcpyvBvn+iaGdgnKouoXVFI 2dKCVF3yFWfy2Hw14lSjL3evp/XeLrpu210mZogBXpqtjgWnYUjdGwXXCv5DQSDTL+ O3iUzUvPeYGLHmCTPU+ygZJ716h0j+yl8Iv5DCX3J1bGtxOyyoES5/58+PZbzb347W q2APz5e7r4exQ== Subject: Re: [Tigers] Replacing door windows Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net B I did a complete teardown 2 years ago. What I recall is the arm has 2 spring loaded buttons in the window track. The only way I could see getting it apart was to pop the buttons out of the track. They did snap out rather easily with a little leverage. Then the window slid out easily. The manual says just reverse B the steps to reinstall! I have not gotten to the reinstall part yet so I can't say anything about the to effort to snap the buttons back in place. B Maybe someone else has this experience?B Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Ron Fraser Date: 10/19/2013 11:43 AM (GMT-05:00) To: 'James Pickard' ,'Tiger List' Subject: Re: [Tigers] Replacing door windows James Unfortunately this is British Speak and probably over simplified text with steps left out. "Spring out the regulator operating arm" = I believe means - Remove regulator assembly. It has been way too many years for me to remember to much about this procedure so I don't want to comment and point you in the wrong direction. Go Slow - Take pictures - make good notes about how you removed the glass - write a Tech Tip. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Pickard Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 8:12 PM To: 'Tiger List' Subject: [Tigers] Replacing door windows OK, now I need more than words of wisdom. Following the Workshop Manual, Section O (Body), page 5, I'm good until I get to the line: "Spring our the regulator operating arms from their locations." From this point on, the instructions may as well be in Greek. The terminology doesn't match the parts labeled in the drawing. Is there a source for step-by-step instructions written in English? Thanks. James Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ironbeast@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 20 20:17:29 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2576E40513 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 20:17:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp413.redcondor.net (smtp413.redcondor.net [208.80.204.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B65FA403F0 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 20:17:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hargray.com ([64.203.254.40]) by smtp413.redcondor.net ({f682051a-8ae4-4456-9822-a84ca1296676}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20131021021629725 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 02:16:29 +0000 Received: from [199.241.211.241] (account geowiz@hargray.com HELO JamesPickardPC) by fe01.hargray.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.9) with ESMTPA id 27740082 for tigers@autox.team.net; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 22:16:26 -0400 From: "James Pickard" To: "'Tiger List'" Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 22:16:28 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7OA4zddVvtQy+tQXi2CzJBxU8XUg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Door window removal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I've got one window out, thanks to instructions I was pointed to on sunbeamalpine.org. Unfortunately, the instructions end there. Any suggestions on how to remove the glass from the glass channel & camplate, short of taking a hammer to the old glass? Thanks. James Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 20 20:25:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A56440446 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 20:25:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f44.google.com (mail-pa0-f44.google.com [209.85.220.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4C9403F0 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 20:20:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id fb1so4449579pad.17 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:20:13 -0700 (PDT) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=g9HtjdV4rqUIfpTD1z9vKa8Op/bkA21t/0vKacPBBtw=; b=BTSN9kHr0zCu2EKH3NdNH0+BKoJ8EdnfvO9PuH1ilgPbwBUhT6VYE9TnLJ32u7lUGn Qmos7WTd8Ih0Fjfrcc8BZjDYFwqCtGUP/P2vyguR2q+K1uz9vbBJ4MZLB7wJyeLb7rH3 6iXRKNNgNqPrhBv4GAN4UpON9PjGZkcNNsZKk5WonGSfGx1zC5SJ8pk8lbRiGhCfy7E4 qknirS5e8ryjvOPItEzmc8yox04sCXku8cmnxYdMfDdbYzZunfOJjwsQAysoOwcIYe4c /A9D5pZuvhy/bk7xIn6np3tG4b+xsNShZKsK5U6IOxpmw2PdrsBIR9okjY8wdd1tstNM 1HeA== qd3mr15419860pab.113.1382322010312; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.2] ([76.91.103.207]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ve9sm17370393pbc.19.2013.10.20.19.20.08 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:20:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay Laifman Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 19:20:06 -0700 References: <03b001cece03$8d1a2e10$a74e8a30$@com> To: "James Pickard" Cc: 'Tiger List' Subject: Re: [Tigers] Door window removal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net If it is still holding, I'd leave it alone. No reason to change anything. Just give it a good clean and lube it. On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:16 PM, James Pickard wrote: > I've got one window out, thanks to instructions I was pointed to on > sunbeamalpine.org. Unfortunately, the instructions end there. Any > suggestions on how to remove the glass from the glass channel & camplate, > short of taking a hammer to the old glass? Thanks. > > > > James Pickard > > B9473298 > > Beaufort, SC > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 20 21:57:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E00840524 for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 21:57:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D60C403DD for ; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 21:55:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.201]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id BF4E7700000A8; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 23:55:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mfd003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mfd003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.120.75]) by mtaomg-db03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7E498E000081; Sun, 20 Oct 2013 23:55:01 -0400 (EDT) From: AAAGLASSS@aol.com Full-name: AAAGLASSS Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 23:55:01 -0400 (EDT) To: jay.laifman@gmail.com, geowiz@hargray.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382327701; bh=pEjD6HybdmRUA06Cmv4zg1rEKZe4H1oSAdGmiYQuswk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hQ9QWJHfzaIO/TwoUEjWYg37gN5jttpWSTY9edASSBWIxoXBsPCUffVLZAYw1d3+w c7Kx2jMq3az2PrpvqjJlifarwh0zWVXNM/2YehCFkOS99Vs7tuvKFEkZ3C2lRlqVeG rTXVXWj82r5L3cGt0J8hyN5wySGBpqda6JXqgbyk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c95264a5953372 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Door window removal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net If you brought this into our shop: I would grab the 3 inch brick breaker we have ground down so it has a 1/8 flat at the wedge. Lay the assembly on the carpeted cutting table take a hammer and knock the sash channel off of the glass. The easiest way would be to take it to a glass shop in your area that is familiar with doing this but these days glass shops just want to slap w/shields in newer cars. If your putting in a new glass and want to do it yourself brake the glass and pry out the remainder and be sure to mount the channel in the same position as it was on the original glass. The original was mounted in the sash channel with glass setting tape, you could possibly reuse the original tape but after 38-40 years it may be beyond reuse and prying it out of the sash channel will possibly destroy it. So after all this and your in your garage and doing this take the sash channel clean it and remove all the rust in it that you can. Paint it to retard the rust that will come, use 1/4 to 1/2 U shaped strips of the original packing tape cleaned up with no broken glass in it. Place strips at the ends of the sash and one or two in the middle. This centers the channel on the glass. Shoot a good dollop of RTV silicone sealent in between the strips and assemble on the new glass. Let it cure and install. I haven't piped up on this as it has been years since I have had one of these to install. And you know that they say about memory it's the 5th or 7 th to go, I can't remember which. Also take out the regulator and lube up all the pivots and the clutch assembly inside the crank where the handle attaches, we use motorcycle chain lube here flood it and let it drain in a trash can. HTH'S In a message dated 10/20/2013 7:24:27 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jay.laifman@gmail.com writes: If it is still holding, I'd leave it alone. No reason to change anything. Just give it a good clean and lube it. On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:16 PM, James Pickard wrote: > I've got one window out, thanks to instructions I was pointed to on > sunbeamalpine.org. Unfortunately, the instructions end there. Any > suggestions on how to remove the glass from the glass channel & camplate, > short of taking a hammer to the old glass? Thanks. > > > > James Pickard > > B9473298 > > Beaufort, SC > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/aaaglasss@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 21 07:27:14 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63254313C for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:27:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm44.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm44.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.120.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D32574313C for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:27:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm44.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Oct 2013 13:26:24 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm44.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Oct 2013 13:26:14 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.145] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Oct 2013 13:26:13 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.203] by tm2.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Oct 2013 13:26:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1012.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Oct 2013 13:26:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 16160 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Oct 2013 13:26:13 -0000 s=s1024; t=1382361973; bh=MKe3OZ6/1hVVQBa5AjBVqTVcU1b0fVsBfUOM5PTeFgE=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=6Wqan5LEaMASHOOqefLA5X+NrQ3gxDCyd0qLo/yniDAL8Nz2QHJ4pVHVDiBcKeeKVvpH6rNqU9FG8j9z/Yv3U65Zbqj6iyZELq2OC+GUqPiGk7C5C7zCPCxD9dY1jlIDYUZuHDyTD5N55dWru/wnX1+GdINz8gf+HBbxmgKIbEU= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4M5zGlO5QjT2V2T0z66c3JaZb16OqvSpBCXXs+3hub8qXQ0E1uviQzw8mCIex/AqwHm51n7dTFC5sgk0DLL2l8wmc7IFlAreMFpzsDwX8x7MJ24T8MSnBPbLWdDwsfmJv0sn16LDrw2FKVVUf0lleS5Lxp0yVuGrJqeo0VJWNCU=; tYNH2m2Ya6AP3ih3dIrn0FbI_BvA7fEHy1yj7e6irA6ucN7zXF.FCHSc4dj_ AWT_UTMsj.XfWdt4qpycGXFJ3bjfhrjCW2sE6mIUjLzk1BZhvphNwa5Snuu4 zpx5bNlOMZGR7mklj5Zb2MzT3q47Y0.IQ372ug6rjWFavRkMSbP3m_tJaf5F byevDrTjrUdFfGAyzgS56IP1MaLqwcqKav9ZoFmLCFdUwfIio2vMyLcb25bY 8rv_ZDOpB0hQazvtuUc7wxUQfLhXL_q0OsuRFcSm1VCaMFELYEeiOEKxIuUv 9Jiv7L42oRdsWlBGzwbHuwnnPU.y4VRfyPOFzTrfkw58cS5ujnVmazOGPT3t VP.Yc_EHh23e_LY3BGht0t9PaGItQChON8SHhYxlobsC4YjOd4ExE3PYotpp fbioywzlsfH1b9eB.7jmQxE9vQm.TKv7JhEPA.V_Ae6ohLSR2q2AjvWjnJ._ ZdbAu13AST_v9J0sdBoaUOR5VOU1XQm9VtVIiMRYPbIfliT7o8G6tG1UChMU fYRlUiw-- Received: from [173.48.171.26] by web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 06:26:13 PDT Rm9yIHRob3NlIHdobyBvcmRlcmVkIGEgY29weSBvZiB0aGUgSm9obiBNb3J0b24gYm9vaywgJ0luc2lkZSBTaGVsYnkgQW1lcmljYW46IFdyZW5jaGluZyBhbmQgUmFjaW5nIHdpdGggQ2Fycm9sbCBTaGVsYnkgaW4gdGhlIDE5NjAncycsIEFtYXpvbiBhbm5vdW5jZWQgdGhhdCBpdCBtYXkgc2hpcCBlYXJseSwgYXMgc29vbiBhcyBPY3RvYmVyIDMwIHRvIE5vdmVtYmVyIDEsIDIwMTMuIExvb2sgZm9yIHlvdXIgb3duIG9yZGVyIGFja25vd2xlZGdlbWVudCBhbmQgdHJhY2tpbmcgbGluay4KCkFtb25nIHRoZSABMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 06:26:13 -0700 (PDT) From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] the John Morton Shelby book Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net For those who ordered a copy of the John Morton book, 'Inside Shelby American: Wrenching and Racing with Carroll Shelby in the 1960's', Amazon announced that it may ship early, as soon as October 30 to November 1, 2013. Look for your own order acknowledgement and tracking link. Among the information in the book purportedly is a little bit of info about the Tiger. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 21 08:42:04 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53F81431B5 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:42:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D06F443148 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:35:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta003.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r9LEY96a030639; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:34:21 -0700 Received: by dm0219.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4018b2c3) id dm0219.52532583.1ce7b9; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:34:20 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'James Pickard'" , "'Tiger List'" Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:34:14 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7OA4zddVvtQy+tQXi2CzJBxU8XUgAZXGYg engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-10-21_01:2013-10-21,2013-10-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1310210053 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Door window removal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net James What is the reason you need to remove the glass from the channel? I would leave them alone if possible. As I have stated it has been too long since I worked on the glass. I would probably try to soak the glass channel in ATF overnight then use a small screwdriver to gently pry the glass out. Use only gentle force to not break the glass - keep soaking in ATF until the glass moves. The bigger problem here is the glass setting tape AAAglass mentioned. I don't know what is available now. I purchased a product many years ago that was suppose to be for setting glass but it was way to thick IMO and sits unused. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Pickard Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 10:16 PM To: 'Tiger List' Subject: [Tigers] Door window removal I've got one window out, thanks to instructions I was pointed to on sunbeamalpine.org. Unfortunately, the instructions end there. Any suggestions on how to remove the glass from the glass channel & camplate, short of taking a hammer to the old glass? Thanks. James Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4158 / Virus Database: 3614/6766 - Release Date: 10/20/13 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 21 08:55:39 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4D14314E for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:55:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31702430B2 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 08:55:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BuckLaptop ([unknown] [173.58.234.133]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MV000DL5XEY73B0@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:54:35 -0500 (CDT) From: "Buck Trippel" To: "'snakebit289'" , References: <1382361973.11779.YahooMailNeo@web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 07:54:21 -0700 Thread-index: AQGtarFvCo1f5s+xRjjs9Rli7IuK+ppCAfDQ Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [Tigers] the John Morton Shelby book Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I suspect Amazon will ship sooner than later. Perhaps any day. John's already sending out autographed copies. He's charging the retail price so the cost for an autographed copy from John directly is a bit more than Amazon. You can get an autographed copy now by emailing Sylvia Wilkinson. sywilk@sbcglobal.net ($28+$4 shipping) As most know, John was one of Shelby American's earliest employees and worked in the race shop starting with pushing a broom and eventually becoming a Shelby team driver. This book is definitely written by an insider and includes sections on George Boskoff's building the Shelby Tiger prototype as well as some material on Shelby Tiger racing. Buck Trippel -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of snakebit289 Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:26 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] the John Morton Shelby book For those who ordered a copy of the John Morton book, 'Inside Shelby American: Wrenching and Racing with Carroll Shelby in the 1960's', Amazon announced that it may ship early, as soon as October 30 to November 1, 2013. Look for your own order acknowledgement and tracking link. Among the information in the book purportedly is a little bit of info about the Tiger. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 21 10:59:59 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B8B43077 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:59:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8500C43053 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 10:59:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BuckLaptop ([unknown] [173.58.234.133]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MV100JYP36LEJH0@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 11:59:10 -0500 (CDT) From: "Buck Trippel" To: , "'snakebit289'" , References: <1382361973.11779.YahooMailNeo@web161004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <001e01cece6d$6d64c200$482e4600$@Verizon.net> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 09:58:56 -0700 Thread-index: AQGtarFvCo1f5s+xRjjs9Rli7IuK+gJ5m3jJmi5Y98A= Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [Tigers] the John Morton Shelby book Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Change of plans: To get an autographed copy send $32 directly to John Morton, 514 Arena St, El Segundo, CA 90245-3016. Include your name and address (and/or how you want the book signed). Why the change? The response from my earlier post has been "amazing". bt -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Buck Trippel Sent: M onday, October 21, 2013 7:54 AM To: 'snakebit289'; tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] the John Morton Shelby book I suspect Amazon will ship sooner than later. Perhaps any day. John's already sending out autographed copies. He's charging the retail price so the cost for an autographed copy from John directly is a bit more than Amazon. You can get an autographed copy now by emailing Sylvia Wilkinson. sywilk@sbcglobal.net ($28+$4 shipping) As most know, John was one of Shelby American's earliest employees and worked in the race shop starting with pushing a broom and eventually becoming a Shelby team driver. This book is definitely written by an insider and includes sections on George Boskoff's building the Shelby Tiger prototype as well as some material on Shelby Tiger racing. Buck Trippel -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of snakebit289 Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:26 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] the John Morton Shelby book For those who ordered a copy of the John Morton book, 'Inside Shelby American: Wrenching and Racing with Carroll Shelby in the 1960's', Amazon announced that it may ship early, as soon as October 30 to November 1, 2013. Look for your own order acknowledgement and tracking link. Among the information in the book purportedly is a little bit of info about the Tiger. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/bucktrippel@verizon.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 21 16:40:05 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067E642F09 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 16:40:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from ivic0.sogetel.net (pop3.ivic.qc.ca [66.187.114.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12C6440531 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 16:39:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ip160.125-126-74.sogetel.net ([74.126.125.160] helo=D7F0WHF1) by ivic0.sogetel.net with smtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VYO7s-0006mN-0B for tigers@autox.team.net; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:39:04 -0400 From: "denis mercier" To: Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:38:58 -0400 Subject: [Tigers] Alpine 5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All. I'm interested to buy a good working condition Alpine 5. Let me know if you are interested. Thanks. Denis. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 21 17:58:00 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 819A842F28 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:58:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A89D540525 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:57:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta001.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r9LNuaFn020843 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 16:56:49 -0700 Received: by dm0219.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 43ca9d92) id dm0219.52532583.1de687 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 16:56:48 -0700 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 16:56:44 -0700 From: Larry Mayfield Organization: Mayfield Motorsport User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-10-21_04:2013-10-22,2013-10-21,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1310210117 Subject: [Tigers] Window Regulator Mechanism lube.. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I think a few days ago I think I saw a response that said lube the pin type joints with a heavy gear lube such as a 90 - 140 weight oil. Did I see that right or was my blind eye looking else where.. What was the recommendation for those small rotating joints? Next is what grease would be used for the gear winder and teeth. Looks to be a more solid grease than axle grease, but what is a good substitute? And then the track under the window that pushes it up and down..has same grease as the gears I think,,, but what is it or a good substitute? Finally putting the drivers door back together... then the soft top, then the soft top cover then the dash pad, then,. then then mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 21 18:08:16 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 668BC42EF4 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:08:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f53.google.com (mail-pa0-f53.google.com [209.85.220.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FB540525 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:05:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id kq14so8865615pab.12 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:05:06 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=DeaWIzDK8OQTO1tP9Ce+n32pVYo0UUjPnAacdIe1emA=; b=Bbm4UjKo31qp/JdMzVCXNsiIXT/Nz6q9o99LbSDnjAv1DK+t/y03iYLlBm8kPfBhJf qrWCsPAKazpRlem4DGklfxmI04MfH7yhQvxA5XiNpo0yOMn15wxlczS6EVPjmmNbyLEc OT7IB1q5TeKiuFbv2eUhpHx9uolE5h6dZly/XcZerFhXfXtmQhlOTno1/dwn8VQ8whmy EqH6B9pgY0eqaeyJjDbTGu+lL54RVdt+UHe5zdZ/XnXJbyAJLzPnD3fdt4ozPyAw6ipJ KRIf28aff4YQNwy4l2jFu1p9BRH6fM0alBootflqtUPqOw6QBAcIQggFTVipcDO0WUnd UmIw== av4mr20221553pbc.94.1382400306269; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.29.10 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 17:05:06 -0700 (PDT) References: <5265BF3C.60309@mayfco.com> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:05:06 -0400 From: Owain Lloyd To: "drmayf@mayfco.com" Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Window Regulator Mechanism lube.. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I use a white, lithium based Teflon grease designed for bicycles. Think it's called finish line. 'Tis expensive but I've had my tub for nearly 20 years and used it for all sorts. Very effective and always stays put. On Monday, October 21, 2013, Larry Mayfield wrote: > I think a few days ago I think I saw a response that said lube the pin > type joints with a heavy gear lube such as a 90 - 140 weight oil. Did I see > that right or was my blind eye looking else where.. What was the > recommendation for those small rotating joints? Next is what grease would > be used for the gear winder and teeth. Looks to be a more solid grease > than axle grease, but what is a good substitute? And then the track under > the window that pushes it up and down..has same grease as the gears I > think,,, but what is it or a good substitute? > > Finally putting the drivers door back together... then the soft top, then > the soft top cover then the dash pad, then,. then then > > > mayf > > -- > ______________________________ > drmayf > Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. > 204.913 mph flying mile > 210.779 mph exit speed > ______________________________**_________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/**options/tigers/owain.lloyd@** > gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 21 18:08:36 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B445942EF2 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:08:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A689A40525 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:07:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id BAE3470000092; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:06:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mfa005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mfa005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.47.160]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 92570E000081; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:06:27 -0400 (EDT) From: AAAGLASSS@aol.com Full-name: AAAGLASSS Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:06:27 -0400 (EDT) To: drmayf@mayfco.com, tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382400387; bh=BkqTshWnCTc0YtUOyELkvAk5jZUx+VhVRaDN3Fp+s78=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=enJ4m1a2n/r802kUPgqmKdIIuYWnv7R0aK4T4qDuPW27BFH7Gn6zYdaDOCIJ4LAAx VR10vWU/y7po+hmJHXBFAszbs0C7wh7sfjwWkBkWj/4kReWxGVobo3F+xVWw1iVoLO ydkAPxJgVzDxeeJLiwM6RCmtF7Sta2XFsBoVj/08= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c5265c18359f3 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Window Regulator Mechanism lube.. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net White grease for things that slide, penetrating MC chain lube for the pivot points and the clutch assembly where the handle cranks the regulator. STP also works well in lots of areas. In a message dated 10/21/2013 4:57:35 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, drmayf@mayfco.com writes: I think a few days ago I think I saw a response that said lube the pin type joints with a heavy gear lube such as a 90 - 140 weight oil. Did I see that right or was my blind eye looking else where.. What was the recommendation for those small rotating joints? Next is what grease would be used for the gear winder and teeth. Looks to be a more solid grease than axle grease, but what is a good substitute? And then the track under the window that pushes it up and down..has same grease as the gears I think,,, but what is it or a good substitute? Finally putting the drivers door back together... then the soft top, then the soft top cover then the dash pad, then,. then then mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/aaaglasss@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 21 18:20:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF91C42EF2 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:20:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED7D540448 for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 18:19:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.13]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id F0C7070000097; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:18:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mfa005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mfa005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.47.160]) by mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A8790E000082; Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:18:36 -0400 (EDT) From: AAAGLASSS@aol.com Full-name: AAAGLASSS Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 20:18:36 -0400 (EDT) To: denismercier@telvic.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382401116; bh=SefNOFBGQm1xyvuMsuM8dY7yfF5EERvynZxVXHW0fIo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EvDq5/c9rx54DFotYBa3Jd6RDGyV41ngvtpsprsHT0iGkE8l3vDr2USSTNl8mXwpT zM9+o6TJonoqVmUTu4vI7Gbukx3KoZLb2vv5QN/IG95JmbcwQhl10x7//oh4E7dg/G MCE4Xg2Tfg6jVlwGhVxBw8+/FeWopMyC5alE84jA= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d5265c45c7043 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Alpine 5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net E-bay, Craigs list, Hemmings Motor News I to am interested in lots of things. In a message dated 10/21/2013 3:39:28 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, denismercier@telvic.net writes: Hi All. I'm interested to buy a good working condition Alpine 5. Let me know if you are interested. Thanks. Denis. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/aaaglasss@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 08:59:38 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5795842F0F for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:59:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.hughes.net (smtp.hughes.net [69.168.97.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9D940451 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:52:55 -0600 (MDT) X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined a=wSimgjRY8KGuLRHhNvJViw==:117 a=wSimgjRY8KGuLRHhNvJViw==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=bIVlh2vrpGcA:10 a=pOfvU1qiAAAA:8 a=fDL2654NbEUA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=M2vOGoubW7xbG24KX2oA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=l2K-0ZryNmajBL96ES0A:9 a=29d23UDjK1ZE1kSL:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 Authentication-Results: smtp01.hughes.cmh.synacor.com header.from=jimmc13@hughes.net; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp01.hughes.cmh.synacor.com smtp.mail=jimmc13@hughes.net; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp01.hughes.cmh.synacor.com smtp.user=jimmc13@hughes.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp01.hughes.cmh.synacor.com: 67.143.84.84 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of hughes.net) Received: from [67.143.84.84] ([67.143.84.84:2429] helo=RedBudAdminPC) by smtp.hughes.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPA id 61/3D-23067-01196625; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 10:52:05 -0400 From: "jimmc13" To: Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:51:55 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac7PNkBhdGoNYvFJTBiPixEXGk+m1A== Subject: [Tigers] Travel Info and contacts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Good Morning: It looks like I might have a chance to go to the UK (Gloucester) and if I can get to Conventry, I am thinking about volunteering at the Rootes archive. So my questions are: * Is Gloucester near enough to Conventry to warrant a couple of day's involvement? * Is the Rootes archive the correct place to go? * Do any of you that have visited the Archive have any contact info that I could use to see if I can help? * Additionally, are there any nearby parts stores worth investigating for old Rootes parts, both Tiger and Alpine? * Or is the volunteering at the Museum of Transportation which I believe is some where else? Any info would help since my wife is going for training and I am thinking I might have some to offer, maybe I can expand my job description beyond aide-de-camp and baggage carrier. Jim McLaughlin B382000175 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 09:32:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ABCD430F9 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:32:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F95C40442 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:13:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004962.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id r9MFEOEA012276 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:14:24 -0700 Received: by dm0206.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 43ca9d92) id dm0206.525325a1.13e64c8 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:08:59 -0700 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:08:55 -0700 From: Larry Mayfield Organization: Mayfield Motorsport User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" engine=2.50.10432:5.10.8794,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2013-10-22_04:2013-10-22,2013-10-22,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1310220055 Subject: [Tigers] Fast Back Coupe tops... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net A couple ofr few weeks ago, Iwas looking for tops for the Alpine. Michael, down under, got me looking for Harrington tops. Well, this morning i was watching an episode of what's my car worth, a time killer, and a 1957 AC Aceca showed up at the acuction. It had a fast back and was eerily similar to the Harrington Alpines in the treatment of the aft end of the car. Bobbed fenders an all. Makes sense to me that an after market company would build tops for other brands of the same ilk. But, maybe Harrington got the idea from the AC company.... just interesting to me, no further action required by anybody, just amazed.. larry -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 11:05:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA96743137 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:05:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D738142EF1 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 10:47:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 492A67014B873; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:39:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-msb003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msb003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.137]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E4009E000089; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:39:45 -0400 (EDT) References: <5265BF3C.60309@mayfco.com> To: drmayf@mayfco.com, tigers@autox.team.net From: phastphill@aol.com Received: from 65.92.51.101 by webmail-m262.sysops.aol.com (64.12.145.241) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:39:45 -0400 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 12:39:45 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382459986; bh=fszjwiBUaSIaXhmdudq3jUjjWosygwCO+WuCWdSPlSA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fCkLkjsOj2rdFosquliL0CXJKf9i8BpjMOmKVX9WCEPLiA/9ufbe79eUChYrIqvaT QT/Q34eeek4e+PRVFBNsklBiZpa8nY8Ippk7bIzC9Wxk/9YEZjHNMklfGXgtr7nHBL EaYeSBr/lyKd7vDTfMnHSaIjYdC5SKzpkDM83dh4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb5266aa512ae6 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Window Regulator Mechanism lube.. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Motorcycle chain lube is pretty good stuff to lube things and cling to stuff ---- Original Message ---- From: Larry Mayfield To: tigers Sent: Mon, Oct 21, 2013 7:57 pm Subject: [Tigers] Window Regulator Mechanism lube.. I think a few days ago I think I saw a response that said lube the pin type joints with a heavy gear lube such as a 90 - 140 weight oil. Did I see that right or was my blind eye looking else where.. What was the recommendation for those small rotating joints? Next is what grease would be used for the gear winder and teeth. Looks to be a more solid grease than axle grease, but what is a good substitute? And then the track under the window that pushes it up and down..has same grease as the gears I think,,, but what is it or a good substitute? Finally putting the drivers door back together... then the soft top, then the soft top cover then the dash pad, then,. then then mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/phastphill@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 14:24:43 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9B1434D8 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 14:24:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25A4431E1 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 13:53:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([10.127.143.51]) by cdptpa-qmta03.mail.rr.com with ESMTP id <20131022195236228.JPQI6315@cdptpa-qmta03.mail.rr.com> for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 19:52:36 +0000 a=58AQjy34UZ/GSAVUaz6wpA==:17 a=253cKie21zsA:10 a=vw4cST_VqgAA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=b9TW2t7RQV8A:10 a=vsR1K6l8AAAA:8 a=KE7kNfQ1DT3LK6YWefQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=nORERetAUIIA:10 a=yUTfCcYAAmsA:10 a=GqTXyHUTiigA:10 a=ymMND6aejy4sJR-i:21 a=LS35ljD47SmE5uiH:21 a=DQJXKAbqc_Zha8n0WKgA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=m4n9VzioTGzTEUac:21 a=DxWskqXikBL6xo5m:21 a=7DOHL7hz9pMbeCY_:21 a=58AQjy34UZ/GSAVUaz6wpA==:117 Received: from [72.224.119.118] ([72.224.119.118:52410] helo=[192.168.1.124]) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 0A/7A-25553-707D6625; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 19:50:31 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 15:50:30 -0400 From: Tod Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 To: tigers@autox.team.net, "jimmc13" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Travel Info and contacts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jim: Coventry is about 50 miles (80 km) north of Gloucester. I would suggest that you contact Graham Vickery at STOC (Sunbeam Tigers Owners Club) to ask about arrangements to volunteer. He can probably help. Let us know how you make out. Cheers, Tod Brown B382002384LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 14:28:27 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61C143509 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 14:28:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from txofep01.suddenlink.net (txofep01.suddenlink.net [208.180.40.71]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F1642F27 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 14:06:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Roscrea ([74.196.108.150]) by txofep01.suddenlink.net (InterMail vM.8.04.01.08 201-2343-100-153-20121108) with ESMTP id <20131022200609.CEFN30569.txofep01.suddenlink.net@Roscrea>; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 15:06:09 -0500 From: "Jerry Mo Christopherson" To: , , References: <5265BF3C.60309@mayfco.com> <8D09D5C734786B3-1CB8-37DB2@webmail-m262.sysops.aol.com> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 15:06:19 -0500 Thread-Index: AQH+yy73qpPUmGSvxbYdlSh6k2BYFAKb9VC7mYxMg2A= Content-Language: en-us cv=R3feEV+2ReQexSpTNkBCqQCtfDO98VZTH3v1oRvk87I= c=1 sm=0 a=UdlxB2OVkhgA:10 a=xzW3HwPJiLYA:10 a=VPHkNMUpP2kA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=Or_tTDS8AAAA:8 a=8LaAqv5HAAAA:8 a=glS4lvpEnZxhypjR3ZYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=7F_hI6ufVzMA:10 a=gPGHqaX6uacA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Window Regulator Mechanism lube.. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I second that about motorcycle chain lube. I used it for a lot of things especially hood hinges (American cars). Door hinges, shift linkages, window regulators, etc. It goes on thin, thickens up and stays, also quite water resistant. If you don't have a can you need to get one. ;-) Jerry Christopherson -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of phastphill@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:40 AM To: drmayf@mayfco.com; tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Window Regulator Mechanism lube.. Motorcycle chain lube is pretty good stuff to lube things and cling to stuff ---- Original Message ---- From: Larry Mayfield To: tigers Sent: Mon, Oct 21, 2013 7:57 pm Subject: [Tigers] Window Regulator Mechanism lube.. I think a few days ago I think I saw a response that said lube the pin type joints with a heavy gear lube such as a 90 - 140 weight oil. Did I see that right or was my blind eye looking else where.. What was the recommendation for those small rotating joints? Next is what grease would be used for the gear winder and teeth. Looks to be a more solid grease than axle grease, but what is a good substitute? And then the track under the window that pushes it up and down..has same grease as the gears I think,,, but what is it or a good substitute? Finally putting the drivers door back together... then the soft top, then the soft top cover then the dash pad, then,. then then mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/phastphill@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jcmc2006@suddenlink.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 22 23:37:49 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED4D4358F for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 23:37:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D18143122 for ; Tue, 22 Oct 2013 23:37:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from HPamdX2 ([unknown] [173.58.234.133]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MV300J3VWWSMI80@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 00:36:29 -0500 (CDT) From: "Buck Trippel" To: "jimmc13" , References: <53E936AD0B40445DAC6EDC3F62F0A142@RedBudAdminPC> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 22:36:21 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Travel Info and contacts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hello Jim, It's great that you plan to help at the Archive. They need help and they always need donations. Many of us have joined there "friends" group to help support their work. Almost exactly a year ago I went to the Rootes Archive in Banbury with 4 other American Tiger owners as well as Graham Vickery (who happens to be an Archive Trustee). We all spent a week working there with James Spencer, Archive Secretary. Banbury is about 25 miles crow flying miles from Gloucester. (The Museum of Transportation is in Coventry.) As you may know, the Archive houses a half million Rootes engineering drawings as well as thousands of other documents. About half the collection is on microfiche and the other half paper. The Archive has digital scanners for both. And using the scanners to make digital duplicates of the drawings is key to preserving the information for future generations. We spent a little of our time setting up the document scanner we donated but mostly we went through the files and cleaned up the filing. (In doing so we located a trove of "lost" Tiger drawings. It was quite nice to see our efforts dramatically rewarded.) While sorting the filing was tedious it needed to be done and we left it with things sorted out pretty well. Several spent time on original research. Since our trip Matt Oldham has acquired new software for the scanner and it's turning out excellent copies that are much easier to read than the originals. It might be a good idea to now copy all the Tiger related drawings. (We can discuss this directly and go over the details.) There's a thread on the CAT Forum detailing out trip. http://catmbr.org/VB_forum/showthread.php?t=1715&highlight=rootes+archive The Archive's site is http://tardis.dl.ac.uk/ARCC/subscribe.shtml Contact Information for James is located there. good luck, Buck Trippel -----Original Message----- From: jimmc13 Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 7:51 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Travel Info and contacts Good Morning: It looks like I might have a chance to go to the UK (Gloucester) and if I can get to Conventry, I am thinking about volunteering at the Rootes archive. So my questions are: * Is Gloucester near enough to Conventry to warrant a couple of day's involvement? * Is the Rootes archive the correct place to go? * Do any of you that have visited the Archive have any contact info that I could use to see if I can help? * Additionally, are there any nearby parts stores worth investigating for old Rootes parts, both Tiger and Alpine? * Or is the volunteering at the Museum of Transportation which I believe is some where else? Any info would help since my wife is going for training and I am thinking I might have some to offer, maybe I can expand my job description beyond aide-de-camp and baggage carrier. Jim McLaughlin B382000175 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/bucktrippel@verizon.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 23 11:20:13 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97EE442FC4 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:20:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from exprod5og101.obsmtp.com (exprod5og101.obsmtp.com [64.18.0.141]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2DA742FB3 for ; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 11:19:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cinmlip11.e2k.ad.ge.com ([12.71.149.1]) (using TLSv1) by exprod5ob101.postini.com ([64.18.4.12]) with SMTP ID DSNKUmgFA5Ljj1k8k1XkbinIoiisc0FkUBFI@postini.com; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:19:00 PDT Received: from unknown (HELO ALPMBHT01.e2k.ad.ge.com) ([3.159.19.194]) by cinmlip11.e2k.ad.ge.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 23 Oct 2013 13:18:58 -0400 Received: from ALPMLCH01.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.17.20) by ALPMBHT01.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.19.194) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:18:58 -0400 Received: from CINMBAPD07.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.212.46) by alpmlch01.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.17.20) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.146.0; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:18:57 -0400 Received: from CINMBCNA10.e2k.ad.ge.com ([169.254.4.217]) by CINMBAPD07.e2k.ad.ge.com ([169.254.9.157]) with mapi id 14.03.0146.000; Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:18:57 -0400 From: "Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light)" To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Window Regulator Mechanism lube Caveat Thread-Index: Ac7P8wwcB3e2ovHaQ8KKxtRdk6YLbw== Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 17:18:57 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [3.159.212.192] Subject: Re: [Tigers] Window Regulator Mechanism lube Caveat Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Like everything else, chain lubes have become more specialized and market-specific. There are different types of motorcycle chain lubes available and some are less suited to this type of application. Most street bikes use an O-ring sealed chain, this requires a different type of lube than a standard chain that you find on dirt bikes and small displacement street bikes. Be sure to look for a lube that is for all types of chain, not just O-ring. The lubes designed for O-ring only are more of a high-impact wax and will not penetrate into small crevasses by design. I have both types on my shelf, the O-ring type chain wax for my street and track bikes and a general chain lube for my off-road and vintage bikes. For standard chains I prefer Kal-Gard with Moly: http://www.kalgard.com/product/482/chain-kote For O-ring chains I use Bel-Ray: http://www.belray.com/bel-ray-super-clean-chain-lube Both these products have been around for many years and are proven For pivot points like window regulators I prefer white lithium grease, and CRC makes a heavy-duty aerosol type that penetrates and stays put after it dries. It is available at most auto stores. http://crcindustries.com/auto/?s=05037 As Dr. Ruth always sez: "Don't forget to lubricate!" Bugz _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 24 12:50:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8093D4365A for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:50:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85BB42F9D for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 12:21:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.204]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5ACE1701620ED for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:20:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dqb002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqb002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.212.197]) by mtaomg-db06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 33DBFE000081 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:20:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Rollright@aol.com Full-name: Rollright Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:20:25 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1382638825; bh=8gA1a+7H4B97x6gfSXPLLIooemye8z58OnBYnPCS/+E=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TmrHwMB4dou+/kYyCL9HgEIOXptX3keNRmM0LmP+C2+VwDjTKmD+6bo0hnoAp7gsQ 0eZ8JQ1jYrxTx/ONXQi4WvXyF0QfkRRohS9cxWWcgQ2Zd6/nIYa98WRkF+KgyAGZmm svW3T/zPWTLXKt2yGOBqmsScVpoX7WkPwHA3NPpY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cc526964e90b71 Subject: [Tigers] trip to England Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hello, For the gentleman that is traveling to Gloustershire (and any other interested parties), I dug out this delightfully interesting and colorful link to the : Gloustershire & Warwickshire Steam Railway http://www.gwsr.com/ There are so many wonderful hobby railroads in England. This just one of them but it is a particularly good one. BTW: For the real rail enthusiast visiting England, the National Rail Museum is in York. Even for a luke-warm fan like me it was unbelievably good. The Brits do museums so well...... Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE TAC 0763 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 25 05:19:24 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C127A430DC for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 05:19:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A47C40075 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 05:18:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ownerHP ([unknown] [98.117.211.51]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MV800FW021RPZK0@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 06:17:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "Clyde McLaughlin" To: Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 07:17:52 -0400 Thread-index: Ac7RcfK0Px2aQ74bRGGs+f+UAe6+tQ== Content-language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Lemans fastback Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I met a very talented car restorer and car enthusiast this past week at eurofest in Greenville, sc. His name is Rodney Butterfield at Blue ridge vintage racing.. He has a doner Tiger and is looking for 2-3 more interested parties in cloning the Lemans fastback Tiger..he feels that by doning more than one the costs could be contained..he has F1 and FIA knowledge and experience. I visited his shop and have no concerns that he could not do the job..If anyone is interested in such a project you should contact him..Clyde _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 25 06:20:35 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5802343059 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 06:20:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f170.google.com (mail-ob0-f170.google.com [209.85.214.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3724440511 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 06:10:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f170.google.com with SMTP id wp18so814799obc.15 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 05:09:38 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Mj2d5xtq53eNquIG/hOQYccHYSYMNI3X2f/eIlHiwj0=; b=VYPizaYJng6g183zlUeL6YUu7RVmUoyMtR868SWY0ZMGKzRfykYaCznD0vYI+dQGEd E8UZOSMfEgi1xqKgF7noqdP3NInCXtpA53UJeagrEEsD3xFc2mprJdKg2HU8fVUaVBau xQqWy2VH/CdhchsyJDl7CQ1CaZX2K0WK1a0NSl/2BiMAFujSPGeNdqKKUGB2W5+VsqaM GCTDrWkccaWcUkgIAcNy5NS1UUIDtW7p3z8iM+LoxdA3G1XhSowYZ1LMrTOY/Yi5sYQk b4KZ4lseX/+B2FTi4RfZz+KorqMU6ZjNMiSFiMVa/WhHx6VwMM2VPsXMdS19ENBrgNA9 SFsw== ii3mr2815630obc.11.1382702978156; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 05:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.34.196 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Oct 2013 05:09:38 -0700 (PDT) References: <002a01ced173$d8e1e450$8aa5acf0$@verizon.net> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 23:09:38 +1100 From: michael king To: Clyde McLaughlin Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Lemans fastback Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Technically if he wants to do an accurate LeMans coupe recreation he has to decide if he wants to recreate the race cars as per their LM debut, the mule pre-race test car.. or the Unnet spec Lm car as raced in the UK series post LM... The there is the fact if they want it actuate.. they need to build them on a Series 3 alpine... not a tiger base... On 25 October 2013 22:17, Clyde McLaughlin wrote: > I met a very talented car restorer and car enthusiast this past week at > eurofest in Greenville, sc. His name is Rodney Butterfield at Blue ridge > vintage racing.. He has a doner Tiger and is looking for 2-3 more > interested > parties in cloning the Lemans fastback Tiger..he feels that by doning more > than one the costs could be contained..he has F1 and FIA knowledge and > experience. I visited his shop and have no concerns that he could not do > the job..If anyone is interested in such a project you should contact > him..Clyde > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 26 23:31:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2985843895 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 23:31:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp413.redcondor.net (smtp413.redcondor.net [208.80.204.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC00430E5 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 23:14:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hargray.com ([64.203.254.40]) by smtp413.redcondor.net ({f682051a-8ae4-4456-9822-a84ca1296676}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20131027045248699 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 04:52:48 +0000 Received: from [199.241.211.241] (account geowiz@hargray.com HELO JamesPickardPC) by fe01.hargray.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.9) with ESMTPA id 28424551 for tigers@autox.team.net; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 00:52:45 -0400 From: "James Pickard" To: "'Tiger List'" Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 00:52:50 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7S0GNDYlyu90/mQ2O4Gp++aJ3T2Q== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Replacing door windows Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I have successfully replaced the door windows in Tigger (the old ones were damaged when the painter sand blasted the insides of the doors). It isn't that difficult, but there are a few tricks and pitfalls that I'll be happy to document if anyone is interested. James Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 27 01:54:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 835284303D for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 01:54:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f43.google.com (mail-oa0-f43.google.com [209.85.219.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0932342FD9 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 01:50:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id m1so2479664oag.16 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 00:49:03 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=i+NgqM9s3+whExhEkpFWMxsfndAnCmifAkZ4/M1IUe0=; b=jObVSTk7xphRN6MbTlh+/LAmGDKaUSWP01WfWy6ULCS5Zn30kK03FEPSeektEdvz2g OulmFsvwfsGA3DElr22s8iLkLNUgfHRzJxtkL0SE97HHTlTR938hKUgHl/Bivs2hHz6U YLhmYT0T6CXMaitbcSJ/V+5mwd5Cv5NDjtf/R+UmP0/AUu8el2idOaO9ta5TneeHb/As rOLDEuhxOn/hcfBPr/xi0g6zKChRWfFD8395EGtmKu/3Y75Fp5cJWLjYMvGro3m7a3C0 oAvzmYeaLW/4bdrUNTid0TyvhXzv83u+UGKjZX61m7N2Is39zuwuB+VkIUaCQP+urEo9 ji/A== a3mr9769885oet.13.1382860142918; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 00:49:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.34.196 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 00:49:02 -0700 (PDT) References: <006a01ced2d0$63898330$2a9c8990$@com> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 18:49:02 +1100 From: michael king To: James Pickard Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] Replacing door windows Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net good photos and well written instruction sare always welcomed by everyone... making them publicly available is even better.. maybe Jay can continue to put stuff up on Steve's united site. On 27 October 2013 15:52, James Pickard wrote: > I have successfully replaced the door windows in Tigger (the old ones were > damaged when the painter sand blasted the insides of the doors). It isn't > that difficult, but there are a few tricks and pitfalls that I'll be happy > to document if anyone is interested. > > > > James Pickard > > B9473298 > > Beaufort, SC > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 27 11:03:41 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A32442D7 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:03:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm21-vm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm21-vm10.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.137]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E172B438F9 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:37:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.155] by nm21.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2013 16:36:31 -0000 Received: from [98.138.104.98] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2013 16:36:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2013 16:36:31 -0000 s=s1024; t=1382891791; bh=Q7kitSQIifUdTSFtD9yzK9/KyOZjZkHLJkEW8VuX47E=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=reYfljK9lhSvHe8HHog1YTRdF1Q3a08gXU9gPiZTTvMFQ+C2qp6uG5OLIIJLrM9i24jV6Ep48Zw/0K8GFN6/aG36K39vtfk15GUjktn2xu7R9dy2WI/TGYP9WVFEKUl+PMr+DV1qK7JzDvthlU5SLmPnvm5xLRmiZguWUJxQ2uo= H.a1YVbUTccAGBUgtl7.uPLhh2faFcZ_0sggypLuzaHwfGltNTrH9LVK.EYA LR1sViKuGh17owoPYVcgQCfCZKo4SwuzA37OeDf0ZEOqNDk.ROIl4SLTNCUr n33u.yuKmfBLynw9Azz4HQfvKipgQWAaFrBkDtpWlOdGgcg1FTEJyfKFACpX rrOfjmD3Dn4JDJ22EuNNxIMQxOhibYhDVtyU0NGBZ.lHqgZdcXJ._31tfBFR 44A4fNkXpMz1znT6qcrQIYyED9nEA7W9PngxJlDhOFpqhQtLH9xx65ZukNbM nZqJZMpl_QpVllQhVkDIe1bIabJRvhDw00wzdH74wQaE5_hOzhpmbZ026DPo tla5QtAw5_8cAumpUB3fiKiDePDcrqdMV11SjGhPMvhFusQl..77CFrxikuK 4Nyr3oRx5p3O0tviM_hncF9rcdqGQg5D5Et9cntVJFef0Q2a7ZT_Y3JTthMS Q1mTPSLbkDhBPEPvQKizFkgvKV_AA1kIx1yJ0zoHcJk7jd7MumslP5D9PWmf 62A6IKCtPihTLMVFEeN5X smtp118.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Oct 2013 16:36:31 +0000 UTC From: To: Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 09:36:29 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Door Removal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I am getting ready to remove both doors on my Tiger for paint and wanted to know if drilling out the rivet that connects the bDoor Limiting Strapb to the hinge panel is the best way to remove the strap. It looks that way to me, but I thought I should ask before shooting myself in the foot. Are the rivets Tiger/Alpine specific or just a hardware store item? I didnbt see them listed in the SS catalogue. John Sweeney _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 27 12:14:01 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6049431A4 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 12:14:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.187]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E397A43232 for ; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 11:51:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.147] by nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2013 17:49:42 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.223] by tm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2013 17:49:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1032.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Oct 2013 17:49:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 611 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Oct 2013 17:49:42 -0000 s=s1024; t=1382896181; bh=0xZNJGRy9QCgK48sXsHg3hAdc7ciP9zmXHZx+22BRRk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=t5zhOX4c2NUMzCGsyyS+EJ1OmXYn1qZVnwDxFY1daHEhF1XW+MZPJA41c7k27PLTgF0bDvMzvGcCSJQ7D+RuXyM5LB8Dwa2In3KC6GMrHjZ5FFJ7zbviI6qwWdHGs8UvotdzbABuasOwT4UGNQ5+cW7jN+59K39qbJwetMX9hi0= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QwscnpWYXsI+7E8Fr1w/8ev0py8IBoV/fCi6ufYAHN61TYc5q14mHXK+rltfp2mexTF9Lq2ZgckOXZGSYNcQoafYzh0RGhsAUNeIZ/nZHhppqotCX27tfkEXILI272UG5o2bJ2l/TP6oBGB2aRoSUEqy07XQlp6Y4ID1QPYlbEk=; iv9B7dPAmKu5UP4n2quBK4uJxInxwDfzZsduVi.jENMQRtQOH7lu4kgkqO9g fXfrx_to.j2CB0mO2F2XT3iNOMW6SsXKoS8wOXxCOkZTGktqz20fZFvgO10C Yp7hGzHpVS_S8XZQ5Mji0hPRkcAw.wOhwzVRU6iIkE39TFptQtRHhFNPMHd0 wLKQeGwbJ0E2gnh.hhpCSWYKXfTLvqdOraYSRJYM3Tss9W4b1QxJh18pGtQY G1clDoUSCXJtVkNR3s2jjTSCA1FK1nADIJd5bGk5VlwAPAh8I8QIDqHEuD2W iqJ3VhBfSCgE.Zapn46Skvz6SH_fydj2dYKWco.a04_joUniotz6YzxTc_N3 GBJ2cjaBOOuXB5FICe2j1Cx7lWuS8NrtvLdB.OI.NWgLAOWtk1J.BUil44LG VqgCyj3i9Am0dgyhky86EahU1NlF_ghhyP3JkneGb8QAUOp6ODJzeiOqGwMK 81ZBLwSOJtRc9dsGH_jy0uVZcXqbKdRlL_cGz2z7y7xAF.5Ghih37mAAikHp 0ieN.zyq02UQ2m3r4QPb1tqYtF_vHPQz0craQDBBdTOW2kQh1jInQZhwFh2i cMJ8c2mMRdi8DQ9Yk0lpYmQ-- Received: from [108.175.242.46] by web162204.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:49:41 PDT Q0FUIGFuZCBURS9BRSB3b3VsZCBib3RoIGFwcHJlY2lhdGUgYSAiaG93IHRvIGRvIGl0IiBhcnRpY2xlIG9uIHJlcGxhY2luZ8KgCsKgd2luZG93cyBhbmQgb3IgdHJhY3MgZXRjLiBNSy4gSW0gc3VyZSBpdCB3b3VsZCBiZSBhIGdvb2QgcmVhZCEKVG9ueSBMYW5nIChUdFQpCgoKCk9uIFN1bmRheSwgT2N0b2JlciAyNywgMjAxMyAyOjUzIEFNLCBtaWNoYWVsIGtpbmcgPG1pY2hhZWwucy5raW5nQGdtYWlsLmNvbT4gd3JvdGU6CiAKZ29vZCBwaG90b3MgYW5kIHdlbGwgd3JpdHRlbiBpbnN0cnVjdGlvbiBzYXIBMAEBAQE- References: <006a01ced2d0$63898330$2a9c8990$@com> Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 10:49:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Lang To: Michael King , Beamclub Subject: Re: [Tigers] Replacing door windows Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net CAT and TE/AE would both appreciate a "how to do it" article on replacing windows and or tracs etc. MK. Im sure it would be a good read! Tony Lang (TtT) On Sunday, October 27, 2013 2:53 AM, michael king wrote: good photos and well written instruction sare always welcomed by everyone... making them publicly available is even better.. maybe Jay can continue to put stuff up on Steve's united site. On 27 October 2013 15:52, James Pickard wrote: > I have successfully replaced the door windows in Tigger (the old ones were > damaged when the painter sand blasted the insides of the doors). It isn't > that difficult, but there are a few tricks and pitfalls that I'll be happy > to document if anyone is interested. > > > > James Pickard > > B9473298 > > Beaufort, SC > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/achd73@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 29 14:37:07 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC6B443534 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:37:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d03.mx.aol.com (omr-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBC10430DF for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 14:35:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by omr-d03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 289DD70141925 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:34:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mta001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mta001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.129]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id F38B8E000088 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:34:16 -0400 (EDT) From: MACHWIL@aol.com Full-name: MACHWIL Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:34:16 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@Autox.Team.Net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1383078857; bh=eaQLZdOsmhBmZbN9yhpnUwdAt3nzzRGZbYX7FAn4rzg=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fk7yCoWMiljxFvcpBJcpNRC2iRQMqE7QPi8XGLarvpmxt1YTVAeQuUskgoZCXhcuC DfmYoixbJsYE4WYxwU/kWYWFh3M2U2ANj5eOGoj/Ab1Y3+XfiifFwVn/37rNfqRQxI u8aeMQfB/Xa+6/49ceHLTuxzPrcoPLYBdKnEDQzY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c52701bc83d59 Subject: [Tigers] anyone there?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net test. haven't had an e-mail for several days from this group. Please let me know. I'm getting lonesome. Bud Williams _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 29 17:20:31 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1159B43790 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 17:19:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f48.google.com (mail-qa0-f48.google.com [209.85.216.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBED2431EF for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 17:17:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id k4so448318qaq.14 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:16:20 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=5vK/F8fiUEBOabPuEnFx605M43UEeK2lBXjeao42HQM=; b=1Eg5s4AsW7DlUHZZ8FmBJF+efkLwBqng303fcDcvV/8gm3e/3SQIjbRo1K7fvvled3 5DH9b+tv4z+iy+E+ejMbOppnqoTEcZeHA6a0bI3jmpjBRlnmMAn3at2UIfM1tuvMLqU1 L3FlOPpEEvtgXG08ZiaS4oNnzf4uiVdi7D72NKxW5HdcHUOSAtwIUBLacbOYuzJJ2suB mAkPNlnjQJGZFpI/uAdpdNpL5Wrl6kc9RmtxHhhWH4i/eQi/PuIHlxAStG6mG2XnRL0i 6dq/XwoJ6ty3Q4d9G7EqoCmZt1EX0IQwAUOJ0KO3Y+6KrJdW974NZkiapKzom6TmewWP d6eA== Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.225.104 with HTTP; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 16:16:20 -0700 (PDT) References: <8b896.fc9406b.3fa175c8@aol.com> Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 19:16:20 -0400 From: Tom Parker To: MACHWIL@aol.com Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] anyone there?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Here, Bud, nothing since 10/27 on the window glass thread... Guess everybody's out driving before it gets too cold... Tom '67 Mark 2 On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 4:34 PM, wrote: > test. haven't had an e-mail for several days from this group. Please let me > know. I'm getting lonesome. > > Bud Williams > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 29 17:38:33 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D921E43610 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 17:38:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from ent-mocinrl08.gannett.com (ent-mocinrl08.gannett.com [159.54.39.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DFB243505 for ; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 17:38:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ENT-MOCEXHC02.us.ad.gannett.com (unknown [172.20.1.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ent-mocinrl08.gannett.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A5812D5E06; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 19:36:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ENT-MOCEXCMB05.us.ad.gannett.com ([fe80::d1ee:ba6b:7083:d0d]) by ENT-MOCEXHC02.us.ad.gannett.com ([172.20.1.48]) with mapi; Tue, 29 Oct 2013 19:36:51 -0400 From: "Teepen, Jere" To: "MACHWIL@aol.com" , "tigers@Autox.Team.Net" Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2013 19:36:53 -0400 Thread-Topic: [Tigers] anyone there?? Thread-Index: Ac7U5kWyEUOvayhzT5291EH9ztE0awAGH0YA References: <8b896.fc9406b.3fa175c8@aol.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US acceptlanguage: en-US Subject: Re: [Tigers] anyone there?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Bud: I am sure the low volume of e-mails is due to everyone getting prepared for the CAT swap meet this Saturday at your place of business which you have graciously made available for the clubs use. For the one or two of you that are not aware, the CAT swap meet is this Saturday, November 2nd at Bud's place at 2950 E. Coronado St., Anaheim, CA 92806. The fun begins around 8:00 a.m. Thanks Bud! -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MACHWIL@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 1:34 PM To: tigers@Autox.Team.Net Subject: [Tigers] anyone there?? test. haven't had an e-mail for several days from this group. Please let me know. I'm getting lonesome. Bud Williams _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 31 19:47:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E8C44847 for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 19:47:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp413.redcondor.net (smtp413.redcondor.net [208.80.204.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93EB84369B for ; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 19:31:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hargray.com ([64.203.254.40]) by smtp413.redcondor.net ({f682051a-8ae4-4456-9822-a84ca1296676}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20131101012932726 for ; Fri, 01 Nov 2013 01:29:32 +0000 Received: from [199.241.211.241] (account geowiz@hargray.com HELO JamesPickardPC) by ispfe2.hargray.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.9) with ESMTPA id 103934973 for tigers@autox.team.net; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 21:29:25 -0400 From: "James Pickard" To: "'Tiger List'" Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 21:28:26 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac7WoM7ZsI/wxzWLR2Gj1FXIlfZiiQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Replacing Door Windows - Documentation Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I have documented how to replace door windows in a 5 page Word document complete with 10 photos. Anyone wishing to receive it, send me an e-mail, even if you have expressed interest before (I deleted those). Please let me know where I can post it to make it readily available to everyone. James Pickard B9473298 Beaufort, SC _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net