From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 12:39:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C0342FCF for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2014 12:39:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.ufl.edu (smtp-prod03.osg.ufl.edu [128.227.74.219]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C81C642FC2 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2014 12:39:10 -0700 (MST) Received: from UFEXCH-CASHT02.ad.ufl.edu ([10.241.106.146]) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/3.0.0) with ESMTP id s01JbYCB008671 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 1 Jan 2014 14:37:34 -0500 Received: from UFEXCH-CASHT06.ad.ufl.edu (10.253.27.147) by UFEXCH-CASHT02.ad.ufl.edu (10.241.106.146) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Wed, 1 Jan 2014 14:37:34 -0500 Received: from AHC-CAS02.ad.ufl.edu (10.18.251.60) by UFEXCH-CASHT06.ad.ufl.edu (10.253.27.147) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Wed, 1 Jan 2014 14:37:33 -0500 Received: from AHC-MB04.ad.ufl.edu ([fe80::9cf9:a9b0:5cb2:e988]) by AHC-CAS02.ad.ufl.edu ([fe80::10ae:8828:1dde:b745%19]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Wed, 1 Jan 2014 14:37:33 -0500 From: "Bates,Robert E Jr" To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Demister hoses Thread-Index: Ac8HKOp3TwCGXKiMRmKBMkSt9osGhw== Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 19:37:33 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.241.106.145] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.3176-7.000.1014-20400.001 x-tm-as-result: No--32.797600-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-01-01_07:2014-01-01,2014-01-01,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1401010129 Cc: "harryb@elams.org" Subject: [Tigers] Demister hoses Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I just did this on my Tiger, a MK 1A. The demister hose went inside the 90 degree rubber and inside the vent. Bob _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 20:24:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7C3940511 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2014 20:24:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from txofep02.suddenlink.net (txofep02.suddenlink.net [208.180.40.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2557040409 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2014 20:22:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from Roscrea ([74.196.108.150]) by txofep02.suddenlink.net (InterMail vM.8.04.01.08 201-2343-100-153-20121108) with ESMTP id <20140102032115.BTTZ20584.txofep02.suddenlink.net@Roscrea> for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2014 21:21:15 -0600 From: "Jerry Mo Christopherson" To: "Tiger Autox" Date: Wed, 1 Jan 2014 21:20:42 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac8HaZ4uXWnIur2KQhyZ63rQn3VXbg== Content-Language: en-us a=VPHkNMUpP2kA:10 a=8LaAqv5HAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=J_rJJQYBwnwA:10 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=Zr7miEi8wWIA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=Lvu4ur3EAAAA:8 a=F8Apek4V5q74puPeg6EA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=VE_KCZGSRgYA:10 a=aNLAHDjfEJgA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=ZrQ4V0F_DPZA4Mr_PmwA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 Subject: [Tigers] Evans coolant Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net OK, Tiger land anybody familiar with this product??? Sounds great, but.......? Jerry Christopherson 9473187 http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/extras/car-care/waterless-engine-coolant/ _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 1 20:28:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F6B42F55 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2014 20:28:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f179.google.com (mail-ob0-f179.google.com [209.85.214.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E7FA4040A for ; Wed, 1 Jan 2014 20:27:54 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ob0-f179.google.com with SMTP id wm4so14044291obc.10 for ; Wed, 01 Jan 2014 19:26:17 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=kb/mmQRfm0mBkF18LkRDLFom9TnFFiuhQigW5p85nXM=; b=kV1SBfsLm63ikQJ4CY0QnZKNYx8hhpszUJ8EcIfVrG0vgLYz/ltYpg7IlZAIOgr9c6 wXeOOAUzAyEte8kQvlTZe7zK98SXB04TOAe0/vwN2A0p6lTMjhR9fhulBxJdFUnW9uFM j9UaQaNyGOkGt3kEBrBDhW2GUcWPg+7obr3txFlLlhZcUfeERpeRdrd2Ai1L+43c5o/d ZlnlMKxYRVup4f0NpQMqkQqQneTPzqWuVplrTuX5BJcvxX/bUrJUtUpzrC0sKXlFI1Z7 jdpM8UNL7SlHmkmSMbnKHSY7H5cQ6yxp3Td2alsj6VUgzkZMD1FJ5aq/cnbYAdYXsl/0 7h1A== qa4mr2770324oeb.68.1388633177688; Wed, 01 Jan 2014 19:26:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.228.65 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jan 2014 19:26:17 -0800 (PST) References: <000c01cf0769$9e520690$daf613b0$@suddenlink.net> Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 11:26:17 +0800 From: michael king To: Jerry Mo Christopherson Cc: Tiger Autox Subject: Re: [Tigers] Evans coolant Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jerry, much discussio at botht he SAOCA forum and the CAT forum... along with every other forum.. also on jay Lenos site... Sounds great.. lots of good reviews.. i guess the main issue is cost.. so make sure your motor doesnt need to come apart and make sure there are no colling system leaks. On 2 January 2014 11:20, Jerry Mo Christopherson wrote: > OK, Tiger land anybody familiar with this product??? Sounds great, > but.......? > > > > Jerry Christopherson > > 9473187 > > > > > > http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/extras/car-care/waterless-engine-coolant/ > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 3 08:35:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E708642FDC for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 08:35:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f176.google.com (mail-pd0-f176.google.com [209.85.192.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6206A403E8 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 08:32:32 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pd0-f176.google.com with SMTP id w10so15440287pde.7 for ; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 07:30:48 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=0WkezDB1thkFvc4Zi26TrZ0caEB7k+oNdMMCNj3PAQ8=; b=s7HGx3HLGva7pddFzEQFjke229r+CQafV/HR55mOHBVE3u350KLQrlWfn/lk3vxtYB 18aFI+9YDEUOK6mCNt7Xy3WQMvmE7B/sJQME+kL8/tsuI3tKE0fvd1lEv1FieQW78Ple Q6antBSUabbw4eamf+LJuDKt9+w7JqgSBVPeoHWBAfn7XPpadQmaY5tkj7XZ5wRSKaFN ak74ypujKAaM9MYtsOBFa2iVcSvize+vy7YyaawA7yctFFHnPKsNBjyovWUvyVt3Blkf Y73Z6yIRZhZs/TafiXxfZRgG0EYgBTJcdDEJJoDS1GhBUDNtQClfq1jqPQkdnbyPaT1k MwdA== qh9mr95795918pbc.103.1388763047937; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 07:30:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.66.226 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 07:30:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 09:30:47 -0600 From: Cullen McCann To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] sunbeam v8 car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I have gotten in trouble for claiming that I know a real Tiger or an Alger when I see one, as stated a few days ago, thats what the TAC process is for, and I support that. But this one is one to be nervous about. Granted he isnt really claiming that in his ad. But its got the wing scripts and quarter badges that could mislead a new buyer if they didnt know what they were looking for. http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/4239742848.html Cullen _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 3 08:44:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8897B42FD4 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 08:44:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 461B5403E8 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 08:44:42 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge03 smtp.user=deiland1@elp.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:45655] helo=cdptpa-web27) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 73/E0-08839-28AD6C25; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:42:58 +0000 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 15:42:58 +0000 From: To: Cullen McCann , "tigers@autox.team.net" Sensitivity: Normal 2014 15:42:58 +0000 Subject: Re: [Tigers] sunbeam v8 car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Cullen, Add clearly states it is a Tiger Clone. Seems to be advertised as it should be by stating it is a clone and not the real deal. I see no issue since the seller has clearly stated it is a clone. Dan ---- Cullen McCann wrote: > I have gotten in trouble for claiming that I know a real Tiger or an Alger > when I see one, as stated a few days ago, thats what the TAC process is > for, and I support that. > > But this one is one to be nervous about. Granted he isnt really claiming > that in his ad. But its got the wing scripts and quarter badges that could > mislead a new buyer if they didnt know what they were looking for. > > http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/4239742848.html > > Cullen > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/deiland1@elp.rr.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 3 08:52:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771FD42FD7 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 08:52:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com (mail-pb0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E633403E8 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 08:51:50 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id rq2so15774083pbb.17 for ; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 07:50:06 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=cluWtcgjVLHrZIiQ5IL9fB92FVpb/Rf08KR7Q97Q3z4=; b=KP+xC8DKfsq6JGI4kNz8Nwvnct25f9VuBzRi/kxwPSPKKzcxwaOZu8fHA3z+jeLeBR hIc8jEs7T6zBAL1h39wnk4/Ac3WYdV95VZSb6jutfbszjuhkfSVODLrn4cfM22l2+CLB cKImkHgkOJda4k2UsrnDWXJWvIAoDtxF6nxH9i0zqXfq5NqVKR2TRqnx/jiVBFQQcKXT dl2NPiU3GIbXn9y/5cnFAjv7pTkqcFjQUtAO3JSlgetlyIkhp9LHg6MY3yiUPyJerhZA lfo15HIKzT7Mxt8RkZgJ62iV0SyDB9mnoT1N1GqxH3NxpN1Z4FCUdjvyxr/u+1qzG3la tn7Q== tf9mr95367496pbc.4.1388764206317; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 07:50:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.66.226 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 07:50:06 -0800 (PST) References: <20140103154258.45SE7.196044.root@cdptpa-web27> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 09:50:06 -0600 From: Cullen McCann To: deiland1@elp.rr.com Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] sunbeam v8 car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net oh whoops. Your right. Missed it when I scanned the ad. Thanks. Good deal. well if anyone is looking for a v8 Alpine that one looks like it could be fun. On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:42 AM, wrote: > Cullen, > > Add clearly states it is a Tiger Clone. Seems to be advertised as it > should be by stating it is a clone and not the real deal. I see no issue > since the seller has clearly stated it is a clone. > > Dan > > > > > ---- Cullen McCann wrote: > > I have gotten in trouble for claiming that I know a real Tiger or an > Alger > > when I see one, as stated a few days ago, thats what the TAC process is > > for, and I support that. > > > > But this one is one to be nervous about. Granted he isnt really claiming > > that in his ad. But its got the wing scripts and quarter badges that > could > > mislead a new buyer if they didnt know what they were looking for. > > > > http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/4239742848.html > > > > Cullen > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/deiland1@elp.rr.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 3 08:55:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E413403E8 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 08:55:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB768403E8 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 08:55:07 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge01 smtp.user=deiland1@elp.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:31253] helo=cdptpa-web27) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 8C/04-14229-3FCD6C25; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:53:23 +0000 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 15:53:23 +0000 From: To: deiland1@elp.rr.com, Cullen McCann , "tigers@autox.team.net" Sensitivity: Normal 2014 15:53:23 +0000 Subject: Re: [Tigers] sunbeam v8 car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Cullen, Only issue I do see is that the add claims the car is a 1966 when the body has the metal cover for the soft top. Of course the car could have been originally sold as a 1966 when in fact it was built in 1965 or earlier. Dan ---- deiland1@elp.rr.com wrote: > Cullen, > > Add clearly states it is a Tiger Clone. Seems to be advertised as it should be by stating it is a clone and not the real deal. I see no issue since the seller has clearly stated it is a clone. > > Dan > > > > > ---- Cullen McCann wrote: > > I have gotten in trouble for claiming that I know a real Tiger or an Alger > > when I see one, as stated a few days ago, thats what the TAC process is > > for, and I support that. > > > > But this one is one to be nervous about. Granted he isnt really claiming > > that in his ad. But its got the wing scripts and quarter badges that could > > mislead a new buyer if they didnt know what they were looking for. > > > > http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/4239742848.html > > > > Cullen > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/deiland1@elp.rr.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/deiland1@elp.rr.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 3 08:58:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD95142FCB for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 08:58:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F87403E8 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 08:58:29 -0700 (MST) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge01 smtp.user=deiland1@elp.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [107.14.174.248] ([107.14.174.248:32380] helo=cdptpa-web27) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id C6/47-14229-DBDD6C25; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 15:56:45 +0000 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 15:56:45 +0000 From: To: Cullen McCann Sensitivity: Normal 2014 15:56:45 +0000 Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] sunbeam v8 car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I agree that the car looks like a nice clean car that probably cost more to build than the asking price. Would probably make for a fun car to drive. Dan ---- Cullen McCann wrote: > oh whoops. Your right. Missed it when I scanned the ad. Thanks. Good deal. > well if anyone is looking for a v8 Alpine that one looks like it could be > fun. > > > On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:42 AM, wrote: > > > Cullen, > > > > Add clearly states it is a Tiger Clone. Seems to be advertised as it > > should be by stating it is a clone and not the real deal. I see no issue > > since the seller has clearly stated it is a clone. > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > ---- Cullen McCann wrote: > > > I have gotten in trouble for claiming that I know a real Tiger or an > > Alger > > > when I see one, as stated a few days ago, thats what the TAC process is > > > for, and I support that. > > > > > > But this one is one to be nervous about. Granted he isnt really claiming > > > that in his ad. But its got the wing scripts and quarter badges that > > could > > > mislead a new buyer if they didnt know what they were looking for. > > > > > > http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/4239742848.html > > > > > > Cullen > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/deiland1@elp.rr.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 3 09:44:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E534D42FE5 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 09:44:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f50.google.com (mail-pb0-f50.google.com [209.85.160.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8305D403E7 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 09:43:47 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f50.google.com with SMTP id rr13so15817102pbb.23 for ; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 08:42:03 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=2I4CnKki4HWq373I6C61+8dk9+fHazx3lSPR8CBwAsk=; b=AoasMzpaiHwt1WGG24nirvGsrtIotHoDkQBiHwdV+UrYG0QZubdPLMmbYUbRRs09iX JdHqF68/UBBaWZnt0xeAtwhfIMUnGw8Gof4nzVYrS78D/imPwtGfSWGn3RA5jtl6abN1 nGnR6nqJkDt3eqJVuur7pxLW0RDv3C8CtL5maCrAJtiED0mPyMbXUJ6VJIjHC9c8CcnQ U9HzT0L6izqXmA3YzgtrivzceZsnWrXDPckaxbyBvXUfLy11ujv+zQRCedj3NYI1UiVm zL48EO/6UK4XP5we6i+8P6mqxZgjLZO/L4QjibuDo43gLiiLzlvhq1LKzav1lWO8ae5+ woHQ== qx4mr79066694pab.141.1388767322958; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 08:42:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.66.226 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 08:42:02 -0800 (PST) References: <20140103155645.HZCQM.196420.root@cdptpa-web27> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 10:42:02 -0600 From: Cullen McCann To: deiland1@elp.rr.com Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] sunbeam v8 car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net ....on a similar note, there was some discussion a few weeks back on the price of alpines in various conditions. These ads seem to represent a wide spectrum: LOW http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/cto/4214641584.html MID http://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/4232712880.html HIGH http://greenville.craigslist.org/ctd/4261913778.html http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/cto/4261962744.html also stumbled across this ad, says it was JUST posted. interesting Tiger project. http://newjersey.craigslist.org/cto/4270105621.html On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:56 AM, wrote: > I agree that the car looks like a nice clean car that probably cost more > to build than the asking price. Would probably make for a fun car to drive. > > Dan > > > > ---- Cullen McCann wrote: > > oh whoops. Your right. Missed it when I scanned the ad. Thanks. Good > deal. > > well if anyone is looking for a v8 Alpine that one looks like it could be > > fun. > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 9:42 AM, wrote: > > > > > Cullen, > > > > > > Add clearly states it is a Tiger Clone. Seems to be advertised as it > > > should be by stating it is a clone and not the real deal. I see no > issue > > > since the seller has clearly stated it is a clone. > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---- Cullen McCann wrote: > > > > I have gotten in trouble for claiming that I know a real Tiger or an > > > Alger > > > > when I see one, as stated a few days ago, thats what the TAC process > is > > > > for, and I support that. > > > > > > > > But this one is one to be nervous about. Granted he isnt really > claiming > > > > that in his ad. But its got the wing scripts and quarter badges that > > > could > > > > mislead a new buyer if they didnt know what they were looking for. > > > > > > > > http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/4239742848.html > > > > > > > > Cullen > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > > > Unsubscribe: > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/deiland1@elp.rr.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 3 11:14:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4B142FDC for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 11:14:13 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF512403C6 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 11:13:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from optiplex3301 ([unknown] [108.47.114.228]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MYU00GPX7W2T770@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 12:12:03 -0600 (CST) From: "Thomas Witt" To: References: Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 10:12:01 -0800 Subject: Re: [Tigers] sunbeam v8 car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net >>>I have gotten in trouble for claiming that I know a real Tiger or an >>>Alger when I see one, ...<<< Cullen, I think we need to be careful what and how we address a non-authentic appearing Tiger. But, that said I don't see anything wrong with asking questions or making statements about things that are suspect. I mean, how would you feel meeting a guy who paid LARGE for a Sunbeam - and then found out it wasn't an authentic Tiger? All the time knowing you saw something that didn't seem right and never said anything. For all we know that guy might have been monitoring this list. For sure we need to be careful not to unnecessarily cast doubt on an authentic Tiger, and potentially causing it to sell for less than it should. But I do believe there is a balance that needs to be struck between saying nothing, and casting suspicion upon every car listed as a Tiger. BTW, of the four Alpine's in your other email..., I like the cheapest one best. Which brings up another thought. I wonder if anyone has ever accused a Tiger of being converted into an Alpine? LOL I say that somewhat joking, but it does make an interesting point. Tom >I have gotten in trouble for claiming that I know a real Tiger or an Alger > when I see one, as stated a few days ago, thats what the TAC process is > for, and I support that. > > But this one is one to be nervous about. Granted he isnt really claiming > that in his ad. But its got the wing scripts and quarter badges that could > mislead a new buyer if they didnt know what they were looking for. > > http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/4239742848.html > > Cullen _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 3 18:35:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B766B43018 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 18:35:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f182.google.com (mail-ig0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A69A43018 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 18:34:36 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ig0-f182.google.com with SMTP id c10so2498042igq.3 for ; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 17:32:51 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=yz4LF1I1aqU0PP3lQ98jUttiT1f5E1Fyrl/E2ht+Wbw=; b=g2zvTFnsqmqm01V7oGGMSru3nsuYqWlbWDqMzGlvJGO/dOEI4DGqNGMGGktzmKHZMK wdnPu7Y/sW+dLrPpBjSPrBD2L1cJDUuj9znIhmJ3+Cg7+qVTHXj5aoIvGiCvAFJOP67t TZmbd5mDjXDsI/rL8p5ZhWEXLNVFiOaYYVA+meUS9/cs4BE6Sef65GUx0Wne7jsZLJyD 24fQF9GPvmlkT/r4xisnqYdemYLQjietvIBpN6P9rLOkRgBq923gzIBw2v/N63V/m+qY 77sM6ycsXho90kIb9xBRYJUHQVTQlu8QcmvD94kyBrbJvrOhXsydl8cynXtwaPBITQGn 8iVg== qj2mr39101715icb.31.1388799171029; Fri, 03 Jan 2014 17:32:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.146.198 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Jan 2014 17:32:50 -0800 (PST) References: <721A8D93ED904322818B0A4C033BD7E0@optiplex3301> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2014 17:32:50 -0800 From: Jay Laifman To: Thomas Witt Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] sunbeam v8 car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Would you hammer the firewall back inwards from the passenger compartment? =8^) On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Thomas Witt wrote: > I have gotten in trouble for claiming that I know a real Tiger or an Alger >>>> when I see one, ...<<< >>>> >>> > Cullen, > I think we need to be careful what and how we address a non-authentic > appearing Tiger. But, that said I don't see anything wrong with asking > questions or making statements about things that are suspect. I mean, how > would you feel meeting a guy who paid LARGE for a Sunbeam - and then found > out it wasn't an authentic Tiger? All the time knowing you saw something > that didn't seem right and never said anything. For all we know that guy > might have been monitoring this list. > > For sure we need to be careful not to unnecessarily cast doubt on an > authentic Tiger, and potentially causing it to sell for less than it > should. But I do believe there is a balance that needs to be struck between > saying nothing, and casting suspicion upon every car listed as a Tiger. > > BTW, of the four Alpine's in your other email..., I like the cheapest one > best. Which brings up another thought. I wonder if anyone has ever accused > a Tiger of being converted into an Alpine? LOL I say that somewhat > joking, but it does make an interesting point. > > Tom > > > > I have gotten in trouble for claiming that I know a real Tiger or an Alger >> when I see one, as stated a few days ago, thats what the TAC process is >> for, and I support that. >> >> But this one is one to be nervous about. Granted he isnt really claiming >> that in his ad. But its got the wing scripts and quarter badges that could >> mislead a new buyer if they didnt know what they were looking for. >> >> http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/4239742848.html >> >> Cullen >> > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@ > gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 4 08:23:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B135F4304E for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 08:23:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc4-s10.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc4-s10.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 663CD4041C for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 08:23:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY172-W52 ([65.54.190.199]) by bay0-omc4-s10.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 4 Jan 2014 07:21:43 -0800 From: "Paul R. Breuhan" To: Michael King , Jerry Mo Christopherson Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 10:21:42 -0500 References: <000c01cf0769$9e520690$daf613b0$@suddenlink.net>, FILETIME=[ACB00180:01CF0960] Cc: Tigers Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Evans coolant Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I recently was watching a 2012 episode of Wheeler Dealers (found on cable on the Velocity channel) and they used Evans waterless coolant in a TR6. Here is a link to the Evans part of the episode on YouTube that was recently uploaded by Evans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQk_X33B2iQ I am thinking about switching to it since I had my Duster's engine rebuilt last year and added aluminum heads along with an upgraded aluminum radiator. Paul ----------------------------- > > Jerry, > > much discussio at botht he SAOCA forum and the CAT forum... along with > every other forum.. also on jay Lenos site... > > Sounds great.. lots of good reviews.. i guess the main issue is cost.. so > make sure your motor doesnt need to come apart and make sure there are no > colling system leaks. > > > On 2 January 2014 11:20, Jerry Mo Christopherson wrote: > > > OK, Tiger land anybody familiar with this product??? Sounds great, > > but.......? > > > > > > > > Jerry Christopherson > > > > 9473187 > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/extras/car-care/waterless-engine-coolant/ _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 4 08:38:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A574303C for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 08:38:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc2-s15.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s15.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.90]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82E84041C for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 08:36:23 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY172-W45 ([65.54.190.123]) by bay0-omc2-s15.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 4 Jan 2014 07:34:35 -0800 From: "Paul R. Breuhan" To: "deiland1@elp.rr.com" , Cullen McCann , Tigers Den Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2014 10:34:34 -0500 References: , <20140103154258.45SE7.196044.root@cdptpa-web27> FILETIME=[78A15E00:01CF0962] Subject: Re: [Tigers] sunbeam v8 car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Looking at the pictures it appears to be a "loosely based" clone of a Tiger, so I don't know that it's much of an issue. I think the problems come up when the next owner either purposely or unintentionally sells it again as Tiger, or when someone goes out of their way to copy ALL the Tiger bits. Personally I have made several "clones" of some non-Tiger cars and I have always called them "tributes" since I don't follow the originally genetic dna codes of the cars and add my own personal touches. My current car falls under that category with me improving the breed. Paul ------------------------------- > > Cullen, > > Add clearly states it is a Tiger Clone. Seems to be advertised as it should be by stating it is a clone and not the real deal. I see no issue since the seller has clearly stated it is a clone. > > Dan > > > > > ---- Cullen McCann wrote: > > I have gotten in trouble for claiming that I know a real Tiger or an Alger > > when I see one, as stated a few days ago, thats what the TAC process is > > for, and I support that. > > > > But this one is one to be nervous about. Granted he isnt really claiming > > that in his ad. But its got the wing scripts and quarter badges that could > > mislead a new buyer if they didnt know what they were looking for. > > > > http://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/4239742848.html > > > > Cullen _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 4 09:26:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BCA44304F for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 09:26:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C54B4403E3 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 09:25:57 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f41.google.com with SMTP id jt11so16787636pbb.14 for ; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 08:24:08 -0800 (PST) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=H3rzzFnoi9tnQo1QC+/uxMY2VjkXOymML+bwdwE0zH8=; b=Bz4dgJlrtQIRfGB8T2XAcZXYXQq39JKEi0TYlwZsmbAAxzvenVo7k+qpimf4EKptcQ LuMO5QB49mSDc3w2UBShQ6F9QWPfU3d5mAX0HoILFgU+a4m99rpX3WYRJoJ3SjOWDNar 9S2cKhLsUgzMH962h+It5SIN2LmS39jbsv2wZvsswgG1rbLjO3UO9eYRR1wdHjF20gOz 4MUZy2CkwmuXINayliEyJJS2LcUHnxHTExtwpOFcvHNTi+FAXJuZZ/zxbfRLjxHszjic UQhOahu5CNw7LnC6NrYgtZVNhBl4tHIEPk28w22W8zNramM9z0k40wD8+fBhthPFKSfz 5ZOQ== i8mr107454193pbh.116.1388852648413; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 08:24:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (c-67-168-2-44.hsd1.wa.comcast.net. [67.168.2.44]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qp15sm116815522pbb.2.2014.01.04.08.24.07 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 04 Jan 2014 08:24:07 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 08:24:29 -0800 From: Alex Haugland User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 To: tigers@autox.team.net References: <000c01cf0769$9e520690$daf613b0$@suddenlink.net>, Subject: Re: [Tigers] Evans coolant Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I saw the same episode and have been doing a bit of research into the Evans coolant, contemplating it for my Tiger amongst several of my other British cars. The biggest strength is that it has a much higher boiling point than water/antifreeze. On the downside, it's also less thermally efficient, meaning that it doesn't cool as well. The balance seems to be that your engine will run hotter, but as you don't have localized boiling and don't approach the boiling point of the coolant, you don't overheat in the classic sense. A secondary benefit is that it runs in a non-pressurized system, reducing concerns about things like how well the heater core designed for ~8 PSI handles the ~13 PSI of the Tiger cooling system. The coolant does still expand noticably as it heats up and an expansion tank is required (not an issue on the Tiger, but it is on some of my other British cars). The question for me is what concerns, if any does the engine running at a higher temperature create, especially with concerns of vapour lock, etc. Does anyone have practical experience running it in their Tiger? --Alex Haugland B9470334LRXFE On 1/4/2014 7:21 AM, Paul R. Breuhan wrote: > I recently was watching a 2012 episode of Wheeler Dealers (found on cable on > the Velocity channel) and they used Evans waterless coolant in a TR6. > > Here is a link to the Evans part of the episode on YouTube that was recently > uploaded by Evans. > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQk_X33B2iQ > > I am thinking about switching to it since I had my Duster's engine rebuilt > last year and added aluminum heads along with an upgraded aluminum radiator. > > Paul > > > ----------------------------- >> Jerry, >> >> much discussio at botht he SAOCA forum and the CAT forum... along with >> every other forum.. also on jay Lenos site... >> >> Sounds great.. lots of good reviews.. i guess the main issue is cost.. so >> make sure your motor doesnt need to come apart and make sure there are no >> colling system leaks. >> >> >> On 2 January 2014 11:20, Jerry Mo Christopherson > wrote: >>> OK, Tiger land anybody familiar with this product??? Sounds great, >>> but.......? >>> >>> >>> >>> Jerry Christopherson >>> >>> 9473187 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/extras/car-care/waterless-engine-coolant/ > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ahauglan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 4 10:11:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5BB43051 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 10:11:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout16.eigbox.net (bosmailout16.eigbox.net [66.96.186.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F15B340408 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 2014 10:10:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from bosmailscan07.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.7]) by bosmailout16.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1VzUi8-0007sM-P3 for tigers@autox.team.net; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 12:08:32 -0500 Received: from bosimpout03.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.3]) by bosmailscan07.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1VzUi8-00052O-Gh for tigers@autox.team.net; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 12:08:32 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp18.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.18]) by bosimpout03.eigbox.net with NO UCE id 9t8Y1n0020PPbB601t8YvB; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 12:08:32 -0500 a=SHyvVz8TQuewofNHp6ZJtQ==:17 a=OPgJcfM40kIA:10 a=n0KVGEqHWhAA:10 a=8MXtvKUer8oA:10 a=kEh8VdYBrxAA:10 a=7cSlj-FvRxEA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=Or_tTDS8AAAA:8 a=ktQpxo0SzqMA:10 a=PnNqnXEvKUewDjPZ1_wA:9 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=hsonH7E3nOZjOFuRJksPKA==:117 Received: from [67.202.159.250] (port=1899 helo=[192.168.1.144]) by bosauthsmtp18.eigbox.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim) id 1VzUi7-0002Xl-Tu for tigers@autox.team.net; Sat, 04 Jan 2014 12:08:32 -0500 Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2014 09:09:33 -0800 From: Larry Mayfield Organization: Mayfield Motorsport User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Bonneville Land Speed Racing Dates... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I just received a notice from theh SCTA-BNI organization that Speed Week date is August 9th -16th. World Finals is September 30th - Oct 3rd. USFRA event, WOS is from Sept 6th - 9th. In case you are interested. I plan to go to at least Speed Week this year since I missed both the September and October meets due to rain cancellation. Car is basically ready to go. Maybe it will go fast, maybe it won't lol...experimental motors are finicky to deal with. larry -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 5 13:15:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8CA436C6 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:15:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA7843593 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:10:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com [172.26.50.176]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5CDB770000081; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 15:08:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-mlc005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mlc005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.211]) by mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 14CA338000081; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 15:08:20 -0500 (EST) From: CoolVT@aol.com Full-name: CoolVT Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 15:08:19 -0500 (EST) To: drmayf@mayfco.com, tigers@autox.team.net, land-speed@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1388952500; bh=pZm4VEFja/xt6SKQFewEZ/vGMgf0bFmWlr+G0pyIncE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mIuQ/dIzD8+NkFcCB0SknK5D0/II/6q9oE2DKShZfNsrrIqYt2JI08qZHr5KuH+zi qll8fdf54arUG4Vn6Dtab62Z5Tmf1hKtleP0BW/43EE3oL2wmI1tFeSB9/IGKWb2jp jJ5ByqG5xWtwCwTluQ668UxWFYDdhHjBfPTz7Gg4= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a32b052c9bbb40ace Subject: Re: [Tigers] Junk Yard findings... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net There is no better way to spend a day off. M In a message dated 1/5/2014 1:56:16 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, drmayf@mayfco.com writes: Well, last Friday I ventured out through axle breaking country side to visit Two Brothers Junk yard. It is a small, but moire importantly, the only junk yard in Pahrump. Iwent to just look around for a cruise control servo of a particular pant number and I was pointed to different areas of the yard where such might be found. So, off I wandered. Could not find what I wanted although some came close. Then I spotted some rarities. There were 2, yes two, AMC Pacers sitting there, just behind a Nash Rambler. And there was one of the MG Midgets, with the big fat American bumpers (must be a late 60s early 70s?). And 3 jag sedans, a BMW of the same vintage of the jags, ca 1988, and 3 Mercedes which I didn't look at. Then Sergio, one of the brothers, showed me a front clip of a late 90's Ford truck and there was my servo, lol. With the connector. I have been looking in my catalog, ebay, and had seen prices for just the servo coming in around 100 bucks and another possible 50 bucks for the connector. I got it all for 20 bucks and I did not even have to get my tools out, lol... Anyway, the point is that if any of you think you might be interested in the odd ball cars, I can send you the phone number. Be prepared to use pigeon English though as their English is not necessarily really good. No, I diodn't ake photos as I wasn't out ther eto hunt cars. I can go and take a couple if someone is really really interested because that sucker is a hard to get to place. larry -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 5 13:47:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF0B436F8 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:47:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (fed1rmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498494003B for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 13:41:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo210 ([68.230.241.161]) by fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20140105203920.YSXE22252.fed1rmfepo103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo210> for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 15:39:20 -0500 Received: from laptop ([68.229.224.237]) by fed1rmimpo210 with cox id ALfK1n00357wa9801LfKKy; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 15:39:19 -0500 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=1nHZ2VAXCv0A:10 a=tg2qwWpoMPW8dApVm4YA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=Nvbv5MpIaOAyACz-40MA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=awtiger@cox.net From: "Andy Walker" To: Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 14:39:16 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac8KVGXMpMV0FJpPQb2l7RkFON/mwg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Slave cylinder bracket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hey, guys: Well, my "clutch job turned engine compartment restoration project" has begun.the motor and trans came out of the car yesterday. Right off the bat, I was greeted with a problem that I didn't know I had; the slave cylinder bracket is broken into two pieces. The break occurred between the bracket-to-bell-housing mounting bolts, just above the bottom one. When we got the motor out and started to pull the bell housing off the block, I found the bottom mounting bolt for the slave cylinder bracket to be just a touch more than finger tight. I'm guessing that the non-tight mounting bolt in addition to a hugely stiff pressure plate led to the demise of the bracket. Also, this bracket has been repaired before; the upper mounting hole appears to have had the top part of the mounting hole broken off and then sloppily welded back on. All in all, this sucker looks like it's been used for target practice. What are the chances of me coming up with another original slave cylinder bracket for a five-bolt block? I'm sure that I could have one made using the old one as a pattern, but my goal with the car is to put everything back the way it came from the factory; originality is paramount for me during this build. Am I going to be "SOL" as far as finding a stock slave cylinder bracket is concerned? Thanks, Andy Walker Edmond, OK B382001600LRXFE TAC #740 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 5 16:06:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D74E4375C for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 16:06:24 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp-out-01.shaw.ca (smtp-out-01.shaw.ca [64.59.136.137]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3390C4370F for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 15:58:46 -0700 (MST) cv=BkBxTXsSVzyY7C2joSQK+JNK4mJr1It1Skr7Xe8+Jh8= c=1 sm=1 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=88NxmroaIPmpBvoTM6QRPw==:17 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=H8C8_C71wreNlyPJbNkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=E4jjk2aoAyQA:10 a=d9QsBp36s5sA:10 a=ILT6Pxuc3JcA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.100]) ([174.1.199.204]) by smtp-out-01.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 05 Jan 2014 15:56:51 -0700 From: Peter and Bonnie MacDonald Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 14:56:54 -0800 To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Sunbeam V8 car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net But this one has a Chevy in it! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Convertible-/301057560573? Peter MacDonald _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 5 16:21:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F064843783 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 16:21:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f178.google.com (mail-pd0-f178.google.com [209.85.192.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18CA443700 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 16:15:14 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pd0-f178.google.com with SMTP id y10so17501902pdj.9 for ; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 15:13:19 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=+kkfnMfpoIH+q4RoVsuxROMhNpe9gz281jhCemTInQE=; b=xs5kqTNzvqRAdU4xfHNXL/rIrUoi15Z3SnEZ2FTcLA+csKlu17wkzqeFa4REs1nSrV V9vQRumuKYtJ6fbn65B4uzOlujS8yidstR/N+/NPns0+JW41bVRT87IE+pYWCK4+pgD0 +yR74ALPdJk7D84fjlCxAc2apLjkNcKLSVf6ODzamvFW4I1XndW2jVlwNwL29y5WBuTq EogJPOEJbzckPNn2Bj3lWluqm7e+AbYpj7FjO/p8PiCS3A9O7XOZpsHd74eVDiy4QtRM Edu+H2Buo9bX+dX3z+KBXyCfnc0L/8sUWjbm9m9SN0xung0rFnkW5mHTaJodz3DxTP6j zU0Q== ca3mr118435948pbb.20.1388963599576; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 15:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.130.35 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 15:13:19 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 18:13:19 -0500 From: Owain Lloyd To: Peter and Bonnie MacDonald Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam V8 car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net ! (that's all I could express) On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Peter and Bonnie MacDonald < macdonald49@shaw.ca> wrote: > But this one has a Chevy in it! > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Convertible-/301057560573? > > Peter MacDonald > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 5 17:44:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106D0437A7 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 17:44:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1064436D9 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 17:44:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from your4dacd0ea75 (ool-182e27c6.dyn.optonline.net [24.46.39.198]) by mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-9.20 (built Jul 15 2010)) with SMTP id <0MYY00C04FAA8I40@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 19:42:10 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 19:42:12 -0500 From: Tony McNulty To: Peter and Bonnie MacDonald , tigers@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam V8 car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net GOSH! I wish I had me one o' them ... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter and Bonnie MacDonald" To: Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 5:56 PM Subject: [Tigers] Sunbeam V8 car > But this one has a Chevy in it! > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Convertible-/301057560573? > > Peter MacDonald > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/bamcnulty@optonline.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 5 18:41:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B89437A4 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 18:41:59 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BEF143669 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 18:37:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from optiplex3301 ([unknown] [108.47.114.228]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MYY00M94HRMZA60@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 19:35:47 -0600 (CST) From: "Thomas Witt" To: References: Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2014 17:35:46 -0800 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam V8 car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net You know..., looking at this car http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Convertible-/301057560573 (4th picture) made me think of something. Had Chrysler: 1. gone to a hood pin type latch (they were cool in the 60's-70's) 2. used an interior, stand alone heater like the 60's/70's Japanese imports 3. used the old latch plate/heater cover as an access plate to the distributor many of the hinderances to their 273 would have been eliminated. Width wise and exhaust..., who knows. The Mopar small block is kind of wide. Anyway, just thinking (or maybe not...) Tom _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 5 18:45:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E5D437FE for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 18:45:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f180.google.com (mail-lb0-f180.google.com [209.85.217.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07D243731 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 18:45:43 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-lb0-f180.google.com with SMTP id x18so9421786lbi.39 for ; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 17:43:46 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=RuSfikDgGpYdL4bCx9Z6meAJsfjudja1vXdBCGsBg4E=; b=gd/JL2m2kHaRXSAWFeouswLDxZacuOAxuB0YYCwV3BE6c/hTSidc3umGTMXCraKhUT DELkGdQwkRJ2+f0Rrv6H2GNXwjuuiVyMFCPFFVp1I5oWSmJu0NuhUKL91SPO9CL6O/ys LC+CBhJgv6tUO33AnHE6bTlTsleiFNWzQvbE/pePufUseuSEYmPXoNAGDRld40rLrzWp Po9IeJiRjoks9DgA2n489lVVfqU/n/pRPZpG9nep63IoVf/S5sIiAgJWcYNvbFsBpy9p rBvWLYoT/XxUB34QEilSRe5LAzzrfVJGcNIEjfvQFzMTuDj4BcwnT01TmxkDKjMKXSDh BHPg== mz4mr687088lbb.52.1388972626791; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 17:43:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.200.105 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 17:43:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.200.105 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 17:43:46 -0800 (PST) References: <097CE78175794AE69E44AF82406F4FB5@optiplex3301> Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 20:43:46 -0500 From: "michael@michaelshortt.com" To: Thomas Witt Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam V8 car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I threw up a little in my mouth... Can it be saved? Michael Shortt On Jan 5, 2014 8:40 PM, "Thomas Witt" wrote: > You know..., looking at this car http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other- > Makes-Convertible-/301057560573 (4th picture) made me think of something. > > Had Chrysler: > > 1. gone to a hood pin type latch (they were cool in the 60's-70's) > > 2. used an interior, stand alone heater like the 60's/70's Japanese imports > > 3. used the old latch plate/heater cover as an access plate to the > distributor > > many of the hinderances to their 273 would have been eliminated. Width > wise and exhaust..., who knows. The Mopar small block is kind of wide. > Anyway, just thinking (or maybe not...) > > Tom _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael@ > michaelshortt.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 6 05:30:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E90543C95 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 05:30:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (fed1rmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B106B43658 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 05:25:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo109 ([68.230.241.158]) by fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20140106122319.JAZS26500.fed1rmfepo102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo109> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 07:23:19 -0500 Received: from laptop ([68.229.224.237]) by fed1rmimpo109 with cox id AcPJ1n00N57wa9801cPJHY; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 07:23:19 -0500 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=1nHZ2VAXCv0A:10 a=tg2qwWpoMPW8dApVm4YA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=Nvbv5MpIaOAyACz-40MA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=awtiger@cox.net From: "Andy Walker" To: Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 06:23:14 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac8K2bnGscTBZYrNRJWMhoqwPQuLuQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Slave cylinder bracket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Guys.I am re-posting this message as I got a "bounce" message after I originally posted it yesterday. No replies came in, so I figure that it may not have made the list. Hey, guys: Well, my "clutch job turned engine compartment restoration project" has begun. The motor and trans came out of the car yesterday. Right off the bat, I was greeted with a problem that I didn't know I had; the slave cylinder bracket is broken into two pieces. The break occurred between the bracket-to-bell-housing mounting bolts, just above the bottom one. When we got the motor out and started to pull the bell housing off the block, I found the bottom mounting bolt for the slave cylinder bracket to be just a touch more than finger tight. I'm guessing that the non-tight mounting bolt in addition to a hugely stiff pressure plate led to the demise of the bracket. Also, this bracket has been repaired before; the upper mounting hole appears to have had the top part of the mounting hole broken off and then sloppily welded back on. All in all, this sucker looks like it's been used for target practice. What are the chances of me coming up with another original slave cylinder bracket for a five-bolt block? I'm sure that I could have one made using the old one as a pattern, but my goal with the car is to put everything back the way it came from the factory; originality is paramount for me during this build. Am I going to be "SOL" as far as finding a stock slave cylinder bracket is concerned? Thanks, Andy Walker Edmond, OK B382001600LRXFE TAC #740 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 6 08:36:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8495442C5 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 08:36:15 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4036E442AE for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 08:29:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (omta003.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s06FRLVx025806; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 07:27:23 -0800 Received: by dm0224.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a209) id dm0224.528310f8.5d5baa; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 07:27:17 -0800 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.145.222]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 15:27:14 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Andy Walker'" , Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 10:27:10 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac8K2bnGscTBZYrNRJWMhoqwPQuLuQAGQ5Yg engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-01-06_01:2014-01-06,2014-01-06,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1401060078 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Slave cylinder bracket Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Andy I receive both of your messages. 5 bolt slave cylinder bracket - Rootes # 1224655 Seems to me your options are Google and Ebay to find an original part. Have your part welded again by someone who knows more about welding this type of part. Find someone who does metal casting and have a new one cast like the original part. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andy Walker Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 7:23 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Slave cylinder bracket Guys.I am re-posting this message as I got a "bounce" message after I originally posted it yesterday. No replies came in, so I figure that it may not have made the list. Hey, guys: Well, my "clutch job turned engine compartment restoration project" has begun. The motor and trans came out of the car yesterday. Right off the bat, I was greeted with a problem that I didn't know I had; the slave cylinder bracket is broken into two pieces. The break occurred between the bracket-to-bell-housing mounting bolts, just above the bottom one. When we got the motor out and started to pull the bell housing off the block, I found the bottom mounting bolt for the slave cylinder bracket to be just a touch more than finger tight. I'm guessing that the non-tight mounting bolt in addition to a hugely stiff pressure plate led to the demise of the bracket. Also, this bracket has been repaired before; the upper mounting hole appears to have had the top part of the mounting hole broken off and then sloppily welded back on. All in all, this sucker looks like it's been used for target practice. What are the chances of me coming up with another original slave cylinder bracket for a five-bolt block? I'm sure that I could have one made using the old one as a pattern, but my goal with the car is to put everything back the way it came from the factory; originality is paramount for me during this build. Am I going to be "SOL" as far as finding a stock slave cylinder bracket is concerned? Thanks, Andy Walker Edmond, OK B382001600LRXFE TAC #740 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 6 10:25:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B0A743D12 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 10:25:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm5.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.141]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 81D1243D04 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 10:24:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from [216.39.60.172] by nm23.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2014 17:22:43 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.240] by tm8.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2014 17:22:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1011.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jan 2014 17:22:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 30874 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jan 2014 17:22:43 -0000 s=s1024; t=1389028963; bh=4S2xwhA6Q3q/JyhsTqYvNijUW6jfy8/ViVmBAheDa+4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rwq1UD/U48Swe59fF9sA4TJMNg0H/BtRZIjpid/za7FfI3qvtIapbPbPDTh6g4gzdR1jFCpg/3rEFPx7c69Wq0OOem2UnkCIlU9Z4iT+qGR3UMkNB1x4hLdjHtvufdamSu9y6NYhLhglvmTiuOcbPQ46fLQWym3qvsxw+b9QI5w= s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=GUFzkKDPbN9L1HrdlmLT7SDKvHDtW2Wp1J5gtzmrvwNp5SNipCxLsxN356QltexCFEIXhgp9U/QlOPEpBJTdXfx/ViZgawJvbs8EnZbFISnoMCW25ECDrPT3FfsB9o8ZzVeX+DNe+KHX7WjwL0oYpdmcyueerXx2wjHeQwLk6Wo=; O5udwXh7DgGL2xtbosRUOJ6pJd0beLl5t.eRvVmQMKye9y4NzSpMzDJ317NP 36PAmTWQ5bDdUThudLLpzSGktYYz.R0Mwi8lUKpIr8Mkjn14L9tIylysiZmf .CinSHCn4kk8gmNMqcplBerMrAd.3FgXsxriTEdZqUag0lUnVhl9UdIvhIxL 8OYqApi5LvL6l_790h9mCSVKFuIItYL4SzhvbSP_ONbBvm0ZUo7iTOo6jqYY .FYkYIOtWyYQHcXTkcKp.Eb8rL2HkeqEdxkZTmZp6kSHb0uGIKYaJCGkx_3I KxhYagrIcjX0Zgu0qjgFVRQE8zAJ8C8t6Gq2yxGMQYIXlvTAGUetlFNqesLh tZ_jZsoyyMfmFBeNauvvcXhiSQF5JcI0wFmgQ7ozOY3NV7vT6URqXHApKkI8 cE98DuU5ce_Ac21BsJj_D78Ny..BO4uF9qk5T7juzBDLl1KejcigTcMx5HAg v1sbYj22o4CxPkKUifXgH9LSOzdsjC4p1r4WJZwflxxbErNbK295vkPMBQMx wbePOtjk_DvJgYIx2gbv1hJXFAKv.PztP Received: from [24.156.1.124] by web185305.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 09:22:42 PST SSBsb29rZWQgYXQgcnVubmluZyB0aGlzIGEgbG9uZyB0aW1lIGFnbyBhbmQgZmlndXJlZCB0aGF0IHRoZSBjb3N0IHdhcyB0b28gaGlnaCBmb3Igd2hhdCBpdCB3b3VsZCBkbyBmb3IgbWUuIEl0IHdhcyBhYm91dCAzMC0zNSBidWNrcyBhIGdhbGxvbiBhbmQgZGlkIG5vdCBjb29sIGFzIHdlbGwgYXMgd2F0ZXIgb3Igd2F0ZXIvYW50aWZyZWV6ZSBmcm9tIHdoYXQgSSBjb3VsZCBmaW5kIG9uIGxpbmUuIFRoZSBvdGhlciBwcm9ibGVtIGlzIHdoYXQgaXMgdGhlIHByb2JsZW0gdGhhdCBpcyByZWFsbHkgdHJ5aW4BMAEBAQE- References: <000c01cf0769$9e520690$daf613b0$@suddenlink.net>, <52C835BD.1060400@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 09:22:42 -0800 (PST) From: Sandy Ganz To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Evans coolant Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I looked at running this a long time ago and figured that the cost was too high for what it would do for me. It was about 30-35 bucks a gallon and did not cool as well as water or water/antifreeze from what I could find on line. The other problem is what is the problem that is really trying to be solved? Rust, cooling corrosion? Run a pressure-less system? Most modern anti-freeze solves all of that and is inexpensive when you want to drain and work on the car. In my 65 mustang with aluminum block and heads and radiator. I run distilled water and water wetter, that's all. Been using it for about 10 years now without any issues. The car sits for a long period of time and don't really say anything in the cooling system to worry about. I change the water when I blow the motor and it's been changed about 3 or 4 times in 10 years. If you are wanting to run a no pressure system because of heater cores, likely a better option to fix the old heater core IMO. Last one is if you do track the car I think this falls under the rules of if you have antifreeze and you spill on the track, you pay for clean up if you have a problem, and they track clean up guys I had a chat with say it's easier to clean up oil the anti-freeze as a side note. Also lots of different coolants to try today, look at what some of the Diesel folks are running, it's different then the 'green' stuff, but not sure how it applies to regular automotive. I run some odd 'red' OAT stuff in my Super Duty which had very different requirements then the tiger motor, but it's supposedly a very good coolant. The question, I guess, does it keep your car from boiling over, and if so does that mean it's cooling better or just not boiling over, because running your motor at 375 degrees before it boils over really is not a helpful thing ;) Caution, lots of 2 Cents in the above... Sandy ________________________________ _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 6 14:03:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75D1E42F8D for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 14:03:54 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m03.mx.aol.com (omr-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0F642F4F for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 14:01:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mab02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mab02.mx.aol.com [172.26.249.84]) by omr-m03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 01F85700000AF for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 15:59:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dqe004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqe004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.162.77]) by mtaomg-mab02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id C46B5380000E7 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 15:59:15 -0500 (EST) From: Rollright@aol.com Full-name: Rollright Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 15:59:15 -0500 (EST) To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1389041955; bh=t1CWY1D0VkFVwxrCg/An5lQ550I6Mm9k4bTGaM17qr8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DSu5kEac/GO5YlKXtDF+Ue0V2KyTP+BN9JFOIw/3JzE2WkNRIq0H0zLjyDaLEQvT6 5pQJWx7GcPyrRQkNMq0f6Lqi9eJD5jUv93GQLUOi0vwlrTvaS9rPmZeHVK4zQ7g2oN RNhk6Ubg5QoAghrUl71dPAudBvJW3pK8szrrDUTU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1af95452cb19235a53 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Alpine Chevy Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Convertible-/301057560573 Well, its not a Tiger but used to be an Alpine. Looks pretty fast but it doesn't fit the discription of an Alger, so..... How about a Cheetah ? Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE TAC 0763 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 6 14:18:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737A742F4F for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 14:18:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f44.google.com (mail-pb0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 624C642F4F for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 14:11:38 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f44.google.com with SMTP id rq2so18996554pbb.31 for ; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 13:09:38 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=4vhdO1d7lWDios+BGRvZdRkjOPaxlqm73FyA7Kw+xwc=; b=xHyto8wVsHcuHEiXosYcuUMntamqqP+E+mkcZCjLpcgRaxUDLVkUd0ajwncmqsNLGE lhz/xw49t/CLkUZU1DSJmL2Yc8+8RtX6O1Ms05rT29J93qXodnzLY3TjkR96QTm/qIcm qeBqGME6Wc1sqy8mAjWJJwkb1WSaD3XHaXQ0VQ0HwJ0Fj6mdcHTEui71Cdz4lm+zGrdV 7J1/XQwuQxollImxdZPRXfWb8TczH/hobcL+//s64baxKpDj5HY8Gb31uevSaixw0+ZL DChDohT+jDnVvokvAdVJeTOUK6FO/Ax0D/DUo6HKvLdKuiDoV8+A/zZR06W0ppRTWPTP a+JQ== Mon, 06 Jan 2014 13:09:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.70.66.226 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 13:09:38 -0800 (PST) References: <208b7.73b83c1b.3ffc7323@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 15:09:38 -0600 From: Cullen McCann To: Rollright@aol.com Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Alpine Chevy Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Moving slightly away from the topic I suppose, but Chevrolet did attempt to "answer" Ford's Cobra with a car in the 60's called the "Cheetah" and they were pretty killer and COULD have been VERY cool...but the Bill Thomas and his creation never really got off the ground, I think is the story. They made a half dozen or so if I recall and they are unobtanium today, some replicas exist. IMO they were actually VERY cool.... I bet most of you are familiar with them. they have really small doors. LOL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Thomas_Cheetah http://www.billthomascheetah.com/ http://www.cheetahcars.com/index.htm On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM, wrote: > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Convertible-/301057560573 > > Well, its not a Tiger but used to be an Alpine. Looks pretty fast but it > doesn't fit the discription of an Alger, so..... > > How about a Cheetah ? > > Jim Armstrong > Mk 1A > 382002083 > LRXFE > TAC 0763 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmccann1972@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 6 14:18:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D02D542F51 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 14:18:34 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f182.google.com (mail-ig0-f182.google.com [209.85.213.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED0242F33 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 14:12:14 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ig0-f182.google.com with SMTP id c10so8340840igq.3 for ; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 13:10:14 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=4vKQsE3J9VsQJk83kH/IJSHh1ssliSsMVqMdZmFHquc=; b=Fj7vvqkkKbKL93LIceLqZDCA2yTPBOW7M5GJMevVfTfb8NN5cjOGzaqMHZPoFb+y9e LcgEkxgMLArtz49RKAkb6eh2WPq4KfvveCe7q871pHPweTemcEbipMcgvTNsYN0DNNZJ vIFEw/l1rW726i9/Z8ni+kJ4rsstOHEzeQxheKEZMBqVUqIiPDL94Jz0Qg5MGhaaA4t9 s/MyOhK6xy7Dg2vuJXyWrTJ1tGf2O5u7TBaH+5CPCR6j5NHmlMm6zXXXoRSe5vfiF7n7 prGlm1b/nrmQz73EyjszIn4Am4Z4n9MJgL1EF8zTKmQRHuxBO0bzX0ZkeA3dKI1mBNXI 4TMA== k19mr78554470ice.3.1389042614486; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 13:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.146.198 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 13:10:14 -0800 (PST) References: <208b7.73b83c1b.3ffc7323@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 13:10:14 -0800 From: Jay Laifman To: Rollright@aol.com Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Alpine Chevy Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Perhaps "Algae" is appropriate. On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:59 PM, wrote: > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Convertible-/301057560573 > > Well, its not a Tiger but used to be an Alpine. Looks pretty fast but it > doesn't fit the discription of an Alger, so..... > > How about a Cheetah ? > > Jim Armstrong > Mk 1A > 382002083 > LRXFE > TAC 0763 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 6 14:34:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E8B642F81 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 14:34:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f173.google.com (mail-qc0-f173.google.com [209.85.216.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D509642F50 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 14:28:00 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id m20so17774953qcx.4 for ; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 13:26:00 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=+ng6wlCEPUgIV3648WM1Jkk4p19vvCau7sagbRvB4OQ=; b=KpKpedNsAqLdtX3I/t7HHotKXm3D0vJxUOnoshUbAWciCrIV9B93Ze9OcFbu62DAcU aqP3vR/F7J31p7XZIZ8Ltxc5aaEjKtBcZeKqw+zUaCSnjTOmhhZ4/8Ru1cbaizkXc08s z2VAlkqf9K0qls2EmnIvpUXK20IlTzC/g8/5DGen8rQcIxt4ZugHtgaD7ZcJU/3A9m3f XgnI7v733aQfGDe3eXOzsqtrwLTM/pPnBPUIcvj0R0HOOjj0OdcsGftluV+SxReagcfq 8o6Nq4T2S3uTSVmMKZ2RennH0PHy9F9MYlajHPDhWuRuqfQxq+RUcT2Mx3HjbL7u6E2u QvMg== v5mr183303111qag.9.1389043560887; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 13:26:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.238.47 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 13:26:00 -0800 (PST) References: <208b7.73b83c1b.3ffc7323@aol.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 16:26:00 -0500 From: Tom Parker To: Jay Laifman Cc: Rollright@aol.com, Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Alpine Chevy Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net What we're looking at there is the dilemma Chrysler faced when they wanted to put a 273 in the Tiger... No heat or no engine. Tom '67 Mark 2 On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Jay Laifman wrote: > Perhaps "Algae" is appropriate. > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 12:59 PM, wrote: > > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Convertible-/301057560573 > > > > Well, its not a Tiger but used to be an Alpine. Looks pretty fast but it > > doesn't fit the discription of an Alger, so..... > > > > How about a Cheetah ? > > > > Jim Armstrong > > Mk 1A > > 382002083 > > LRXFE > > TAC 0763 > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 6 14:50:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B05742F9E for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 14:50:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo101.cox.net (fed1rmfepo101.cox.net [68.230.241.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31FDB42F50 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 14:40:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo209 ([68.230.241.160]) by fed1rmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20140106213858.MRDJ22627.fed1rmfepo101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo209> for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 16:38:58 -0500 Received: from fed1rmwml206 ([172.18.140.217]) by fed1rmimpo209 with cox id Aley1n0044hdPEs01leyUc; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 16:38:58 -0500 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=UyHOC7Gu_PIA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=l1zv02D1eCcA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=8pif782wAAAA:8 a=isaQq2gIAAAA:8 a=m8tQBdXBAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=8kPIMDKCWPvr846YKJwA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=HgZn8Edb9LUTBtP2:21 a=UHDSU_KUndgYQSl5:21 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 204.61.12.74 by webmail.west.cox.net; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 16:38:57 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 16:38:58 -0500 From: To: Cullen McCann , Rollright@aol.com Sensitivity: Normal Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Alpine Chevy Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net If I remember correctly, Bill Thomas' shop burned to the ground during the Cheetah project and only a few cars got built as a result. They had quite impressive performance, though. I'm not a Chevy fan, but it's too bad that he didn't get to really develop the car; it might have really given the Cobra a run for its money. As a side note, the fire situation was the same fate that beset Jaguar during their production of their XK-SS models, the road-going version of their enormously successful D-Type racer. Andy Walker ---- Cullen McCann wrote: > Moving slightly away from the topic I suppose, but Chevrolet did attempt to > "answer" Ford's Cobra with a car in the 60's called the "Cheetah" and they > were pretty killer and COULD have been VERY cool...but the Bill Thomas and > his creation never really got off the ground, I think is the story. They > made a half dozen or so if I recall and they are unobtanium today, some > replicas exist. IMO they were actually VERY cool.... I bet most of you are > familiar with them. they have really small doors. LOL > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Thomas_Cheetah > > http://www.billthomascheetah.com/ > > http://www.cheetahcars.com/index.htm > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 2:59 PM, wrote: > > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Convertible-/301057560573 > > > > Well, its not a Tiger but used to be an Alpine. Looks pretty fast but it > > doesn't fit the discription of an Alger, so..... > > > > How about a Cheetah ? > > > > Jim Armstrong > > Mk 1A > > 382002083 > > LRXFE > > TAC 0763 > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmccann1972@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/awtiger@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 7 06:04:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BCA42F95 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 06:04:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm46.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm46.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.120.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 11EC042F07 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 05:58:29 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm46.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2014 12:56:26 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.131] by nm46.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2014 12:53:32 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.170] by tm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2014 12:53:32 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.237] by tm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2014 12:53:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1046.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2014 12:53:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 73289 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Jan 2014 12:53:32 -0000 s=s1024; t=1389099212; bh=iKMErM7WmtftL7jNhopH6vLxzAX9SPNvYKR+R3CEpho=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2KWnbqB7vxceN0MEySuDt6uiAEPC+c35pAb7LezSH/zjJ5kQQ4RNu+HCqAkXDrcA7C+KsYaIwCPKRJaQceK4+EF8Ojw/de/FrdeRs7+9jIof8kr3lUSy1IGQ3SWkhTLjUMRq4PqaTa2tjGMWClunHXEtJz3FCV89j663U327YTg= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BDBP/mwQG0MrLFO9fpVbIn5jXY2OeLu+mAEXOjCcfsZgKJEbQq64QkyIqeP3opVVYlo+TZ1ArBi6l3rmTJJuuPXzKScBjvuRlfdAT3Ng/QjIAjJS9/gQVt1oIH3x6twM/Q3UMFjzL8wbxO9Z8Ntl/dITWkk5UibCkepumRwP9Lw=; qk7tFwvrvVUAQQbY_UXV9P3JB_b.9HBUfztQTpwWpXcwEuCjI5Xh5wwx816q G3.DGp84NYa3ORtLUItwYWDSZgp6AH9xHV.WkrmORaKO8Cuqf.ug5cbnD4sk FId6t8zJ9yLrIv16vZEsBUIp8htKVSu3aV7jyXSEM9VpOzf1XPAxa01ULZPX sdM8h6.pMs7ThuoXUDoEFAhwSaAExFe7sKhyAWsrQOacU6nEssPO1pLLE7sE X8i0.rTO_0pHOs8JohppDH6wNEeMRg4_xt6RLKX2GSLRnSXohkINljx.RLIR Snm7BJTb0oy4WVrvTZki._n9rLUV6knUqqXKgkwEZRULYJSIam9BRp8lcEjU .23eA0aorFRj2HV8SgoKJsQE7SdA.uoLS89C5FMFH4pvXcZ_VKMs7v3bPayq p1a50cEa_ypoSnXqlT3WjYEOgyBNK_UgCvREj1ZiojBAzSATKV1a92YCg00a 93oKN5N2btnzGfNAaU2NGjMVLNmIuz7s6_nBbYHaI7ymXAT11RP66iOgpzWR gQVFLlV7rnCqurXRWpx6iMv9wbmPN1ghI94KeAh5sweYSdMssAGIHe0JcScL mxcA5TBHJ4l9HreiuQw-- Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162703.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 04:53:32 PST aHR0cDovL3d3dy5lYmF5LmNvbS9pdG0vT3RoZXItTWFrZXMtQ29udmVydGlibGUtLzMwMTA1NzU2MDU3MyAKCldobyBrbm93cyB3aGF0IHRoaXMgY2FyIHdpbGwgZ28gZm9yLCBidXQgSSB3b25kZXIgaWYgYW55b25lIGNvbnRlbXBsYXRlZCByZXR1cm5pbmcgdGhpcyBjYXIgdG8gaXRzCkFscGluZSBmb3JtZXIgc2VsZi4gWWVzLCBpdCB3b3VsZCBuZWVkIGF0IGxlYXN0IHRoZSBwb3dlcnRyYWluLCBlbnRpcmUgZnJvbnQgc3VzcGVuc2lvbiwgYW5kIHByZXN1bWFibHkgcmVhciBzdXNwZW5zaW9uIGFuZCBheGwBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 04:53:32 -0800 (PST) From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tigers versus 'Algae' eBay car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Convertible-/301057560573 Who knows what this car will go for, but I wonder if anyone contemplated returning this car to its Alpine former self. Yes, it would need at least the powertrain, entire front suspension, and presumably rear suspension and axle, but surely there's a donor Alpine available, depending on what shape the body is in. I for one wouldn't mind seeing one more real Alpine back on the road. Rande _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 7 08:10:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A6EC42F8A for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 08:10:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f180.google.com (mail-ig0-f180.google.com [209.85.213.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2618D42F5A for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 08:09:45 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ig0-f180.google.com with SMTP id m12so1851172iga.1 for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 07:07:42 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=from:to:references:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:thread-index; bh=20Go4hVI73JHVLGWb6lUaqhWpxDdV7CPZzR8QCyogXU=; b=UPF2/b4tdsdKFLsOZJWnO5h1IsimkX9RSKF85HNmgNbiRfPxzFcIUVrBb2XEvwxFg7 cvvwVdDhYhH5YwD7PP9/f24dhFUzuccZbQ6SFhQ6/BW6bJflTCE3iECy0B7a8H3jlTcM moTxdnB1Gf+YOUGzHFi5L83xffyztuwlmScd2+hYn0PAVgW7VsA0XxxJ9oKe1PwKGgp1 5h5LivuGNFsoSTc+PsuytoZ6cT5nAy79uvJItMiKKOzs+C6vD9F0hZoauAMe3TQnaL/h z8tOG1dCt5ZVOVBUrx8xi831zbbdNMUlrH5Jt5GPeZMN9X16PDmIJXxCp68MIXjL7XNB yFHQ== pe5mr1465767icc.71.1389107262692; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 07:07:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from delld630 (adsl-75-10-144-219.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net. [75.10.144.219]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ft2sm3757488igb.5.2014.01.07.07.07.41 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 07 Jan 2014 07:07:41 -0800 (PST) From: "Mark Rense" To: References: <208b7.73b83c1b.3ffc7323@aol.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 10:07:42 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac8LIovXei3WKXfLRm+WBLBnuG4+owAlrE0g Subject: Re: [Tigers] Alpine Chevy Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net This just proves that with a little imagination, a wrecked Camaro, and a lot of cold beer anything is possible! -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 3:59 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Alpine Chevy http://www.ebay.com/itm/Other-Makes-Convertible-/301057560573 Well, its not a Tiger but used to be an Alpine. Looks pretty fast but it doesn't fit the discription of an Alger, so..... _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 7 16:30:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 836F5429A2 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 16:30:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173025pub.verizon.net (vms173025pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F1240526 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 16:24:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from ownerHP ([unknown] [108.15.118.133]) by vms173025.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MZ2004OE0XM0WA0@vms173025.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 17:22:34 -0600 (CST) From: "Clyde McLaughlin" To: Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 18:23:07 -0500 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac8L/nh+96pV7LA3SX6dGnS9nWWZcA== Subject: [Tigers] cheetah Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Didn't we see some of these run scca in the mid 60's, I seem to recall atleast one running in the NE Region, maybe wrong??? Clyde McLaughlin _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 7 16:46:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0780342A55 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 16:46:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm39-vm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm39-vm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.149]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B9D340526 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 16:35:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.212.153] by nm39.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2014 23:33:48 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.232] by tm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2014 23:33:47 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1041.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Jan 2014 23:33:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 29427 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Jan 2014 23:33:47 -0000 s=s1024; t=1389137627; bh=iz8E5VWCgAizNMIGL1M5zMIeB9TOaKeHCAsJwuSpYAA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ocxt27U9XBF7b1EbL8u8mr6xCcdDvCUEaQH2CCLPV6gtu3UpD18mAcRSoDkSvzNNHKmE+aefB3CQ3bgvu0rs4FWTRPl1/6idykILXtsmUmJztpYvXqf/A70145deydt+3ykjqJZ/Hb3K+/yTDzPrvJRXG71O0spTdg3JYGj6le8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jaGeT7LQE664SwGSHJa+owGmAhPFtwMppyi19RmxgzgmoGbQbGqxjewpcvavrTaUpPOzYEqJK2uMvYEc+gY5RAdeHVFOWzeoJjCUdVxB8RWSxKVBK3b5AvCN8Sp+BoaGhLF95NGziwpK1LCi52NfC+IgLnVanR6K0pG30fsYUto=; gMSuuSjr9pWqOuEVGQOQu0OGTwDo5Ufx_7RRYXbZgYz6VnL4oZdT_CnmEf9P enBAqmtL.lHUrQY4RYbfZvRjYQHbFUPVDbTT2iCy2v4rIb6JyrhQtnaYq_fu hsve7amkL7G_UhxM9lroqcYq3WrUVIpSYoWRR8GjUUtIYF3VhHu2p90Wqnai NDZ8rHh.5Kk18f6uHJM89JpvdBDacmLZs4SaPLcEf1xHLxfOT9gMQir6i5v9 cGFH3ZA18QDbZfuVj9syCp1jNdH1Hwz5RPRd45dQI0JfRvAaQg4E.y1FA_Zs e9EE0a1huiu9yQi3g.hKsZNt9_hmtGdlXQNjeSXkwi_F7f96j.CVsn5AxklT AGovfND1K.sMuVA811w3Zs9jM.K__7kOM0rvded02ID6vgU74c3Za0gtG7h6 k1aregPcxtYhvSmQB31UG7Be2fM8XaApOfFhZ.sdlpH0dMVBZ4h9Imh2V7WP HjhhvgOsWYz0G1nD5hax9mNux.8.ah3eE1NDDnW8KSs1.HKjvE6VOtcw- Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 15:33:47 PST SSBjb250YWN0ZWQgdGhlIHNlbGxlcsKgIG9mIHRoZSBlQmF5IEFscGluZS1DaGV2eSwgYW5kIGl0J3Mgbm90IGEgY29zdC1lZmZlY3RpdmUgY2FyIGZvciByZXR1cm5pbmcgaXQgdG8gb3JpZ2luYWwgQWxwaW5lIHN0dWZmLCB0aGUgZnJhbWUgZnJvbSBidWxraGVhZCB0byBidW1wZXIgd2FzIGN1dCBvZmYsIGFuZCBhIHR1YmUgc3ViZnJhbWUgcmVwbGFjZXMgaXQuIEFoIHdlbGwuCgpSYW5kZQoBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 15:33:47 -0800 (PST) From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Cc: "alpines@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tigers - the Chevy-powered Alpine Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I contacted the seller of the eBay Alpine-Chevy, and it's not a cost-effective car for returning it to original Alpine stuff, the frame from bulkhead to bumper was cut off, and a tube subframe replaces it. Ah well. Rande _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 7 17:16:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BF642823 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 17:16:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f179.google.com (mail-ig0-f179.google.com [209.85.213.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B0340409; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 16:53:51 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ig0-f179.google.com with SMTP id hk11so3115999igb.0 for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 15:51:46 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=QvHdGW02Mt78xQJtoxqlYSp8jE29Rf8My7kkcLMjPq4=; b=JTmGJEiuSqV245R5L3qVhFvWvfxbVb0FhRJXz2GYOxFP0/W3S2r49wi5UzglrojGmJ oQwEbDE3v3zQRcNF4VzdfMuFg0zqwLpkHocNW4yWhnsftYNFmanqg0OANPVE+uGKq3Gq TqvGWujgXcD2BTDwOxlWcCw6vuxBXxhtl09QkGl0r6gnlW/cYlncxYX4z7KiY9hUrJ72 41Q7l5Pm740nr60mxQ0fTaqXkepHMnNPNO5pTBpvFC8a2XlBhNTH06fr15rCkKqNpYW1 sPbFWHTVRjuL0UoYAp0auQ8nt+wYNX3WHDPW/9QiiKb88A9SbCxnSRPR3ABghVQx0yOF wheA== vc10mr5680693igb.0.1389138706280; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 15:51:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.146.198 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 15:51:46 -0800 (PST) References: <1389137627.25405.YahooMailNeo@web162706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 15:51:46 -0800 From: Jay Laifman To: snakebit289 Cc: "alpines@autox.team.net" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers - the Chevy-powered Alpine Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Uhm, because someone was actually thinking of doing that?! :-) Sadly, unless I'm missing a large spike in values, it doesn't seem to take much to push an Alpine over the point of no return - just ask Elizabeth. On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 3:33 PM, snakebit289 wrote: > I contacted the seller of the eBay Alpine-Chevy, and it's not a > cost-effective car for returning it to original Alpine stuff, the frame > from > bulkhead to bumper was cut off, and a tube subframe replaces it. Ah well. > Rande > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 7 21:04:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE9A842AB9 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 21:04:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f53.google.com (mail-pb0-f53.google.com [209.85.160.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4370540526 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 20:55:29 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-pb0-f53.google.com with SMTP id ma3so1016064pbc.40 for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 19:53:23 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=aOIJ5HINpR4OAXgGjxHPPqCkcRKSWyPbo7Gt6FHP+pg=; b=DgOFGgXi8VcrU1EVWqZW9SlBDZeJRN+C8qPhZRx+3BItjd4Ie1+/G8bzfgkE3j7uXY zh+vw36GJIWWCo95FvbTTp12IB51aYQ3vhV1S5JCUTlhYVOvg8jg9ABXzkpyunnZBo72 8SUEzht27eRVgWkI4PAHCBHfQ3tEyKgo0oWcdStfCu9TUaf/5hXFsVDJFYNbU8ccSI71 ZR3Fs2PH9TkvZVMPmE7pX1xhHDeI8wGbo+c3S0IXaKHZShVPIefAAyg/B6FJ4ABctbxR WJKLzdbK3zow53WU1/Ze344JYvaEFwN3SQMxDxpbQCs8F93mlQ7zmUDznurW7WFMkD/4 yPFA== rz9mr9718156pab.71.1389153203008; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 19:53:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.68.10.74 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 19:53:22 -0800 (PST) References: <007901cf0bff$6c5fafd0$451f0f70$@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 22:53:22 -0500 From: Alexander Washick To: Clyde McLaughlin Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] cheetah Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Yup ! There was one racing at the Bridgehamton Raceway on eastern Long Island in the mid 60's. The track was one of the main stops on the circuit in those days but in the 70's the "Hamptons" was the place to be so all the well to do people built in the beautiful hills around the track and then complained about the noise on there summer weekends and got it shut down. The same old story for most the tracks on Long Island where I am from originally until I moved to Florida in 1991. The Cheeth was a big scare for Cobras and Vettes as it was really fast powered by Vette engine and weighted 1700 lbs!! They could not qualify for SCCA as they needed 100 cars and the shop burn down after only 16 cars were built. It was a cool looking car and most survive today. Al On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Clyde McLaughlin < clydemclaughlin@verizon.net> wrote: > Didn't we see some of these run scca in the mid 60's, I seem to recall > atleast one running in the NE Region, maybe wrong??? Clyde McLaughlin > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/alw6464@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 8 13:24:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32B0042F66 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2014 13:24:49 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm43-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm43-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 703EA42F15 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2014 12:59:12 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.139.214.32] by nm43.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2014 19:57:02 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.208] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2014 19:57:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1017.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jan 2014 19:57:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 52219 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jan 2014 19:57:02 -0000 s=s1024; t=1389211022; bh=ormDeEw8Q1xDiybmr2KJffIhgvruftHB+d4THEDjKyM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0aqDWHwluR2hhq0rLVjbimE32l37yTYGVGjoSY9NclAf0QF1Dr55ila0zjeTX+vzvR8PaskkKCT8y8ZkCkOYwfJ0siukQlviffaS3vvlONnjRlgH23kgjNyWDzkHwYqEJwKUkrDfKgfi/if2K7pCF+O+qmGnbXIJyQY3kUGBRi0= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=t0HFtykIJTYgGeIBEbmmhwodFyO1bmdDSYrzDBy4wnV50EeGDlXlYUfOhgExfrmwStsSH/+SMLfMKkC7qLD90RbiFahTgm0kJxxDrRKkRwaVWEVmZSlaMy9J/KvmQhlPLj8H1Halr3eug/bBGj1XOP94sK+kA8GQUnHacnkJvwM=; n1vXpXi_LBHpYQa_bdw_T_cqu1XnYhjs_NHFjJIE9_xFzf0IxnAon_18GCUO DVZqpSJcnWLqxcOzW4VuymEgsAan9P5oDUMUXBVABO1EfGrIb5ab3qImakXj 0FOLRBX_xgnBwCEkdtrcypvLpVXiGzINrskWfDLVUK_KKczLzEFCWVsy_HXN Dp_GXk6HcSgybAYxtA.lzBJ_8KniFE3IWVCyxcZZ_CV7Jm1VtZHntGLj2zPp hoAVLEg2dZzxcBHVzkZVP8uhBG8Z8s.xkc4b6ZCe0HuJ7Mwo9DzoeUhu6oH4 zj9PU.SdEG34cdaMlGuAk2aIYH2pVGCUMs2cZeMX.dqFP5053jgRbls76S9d SycrRHmkqb5SXSIX1own9DJVdfM9.B4kvpsefVy4LZrujT614bTX7nINEyoq PdqzRGk6nUDxXT_0kfwtmoaStOwvfrzltnslApLvGuLTRx0IboAbouQuzMLS O.bJw2JzHRBC4lCHHfdY78aYk5.9NxuhD_lKI7bHocaJMrcOMuurLqqu8.EJ x2mDXkkW8UeXCOtfResImGV.nfoz.1.n9dDLIUMjpCPuVDG20a9UIURhSFp2 pWLR6_KZ5lvTAQee7HIqCJ00aj0KxgpbSBCARAUCajK8ly41hUvXmnQhilLq jFUuf7cDUsEY5gucavrQkoKz9hoz45VApjyFhCHr.aC0WGhBtAa2Hn9kRge7 jLSGuAAnHb6rV Received: from [4.53.21.50] by web142706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Jan 2014 11:57:02 PST R3JlYXQgcmVhZCBhbmQgcGljdHVyZXMuLi4KaHR0cDovL3d3dy5zcGVlZGh1bnRlcnMuY29tLzIwMTMvMDgvZmFzdC1jYXQtdGhlLWJpbGwtdGhvbWFzLWNoZWV0YWgvCgpodHRwOi8vd3d3LnNwZWVkaHVudGVycy5jb20vMjAxMy8wOC9idG0tY29udGludWF0aW9uLWNoZWV0YWgtdXAtY2xvc2UtYW5kLXBlcnNvbmFsLwoKCkFuZCBjb250cm92ZXJzaWVzLi4uCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuY2hlZXRhaGNhcnMuY29tCgoKRGVyZWsgRGFpbHkgCmR0ZGFpbHlAeWFob28uY29tIAEwAQEBAQ-- Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 11:57:02 -0800 (PST) From: Derek Daily To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] BTM Continuation Cheetahs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Great read and pictures... http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/08/fast-cat-the-bill-thomas-cheetah/ http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/08/btm-continuation-cheetah-up-close-and-personal/ And controversies... http://www.cheetahcars.com Derek Daily dtdaily@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 8 20:03:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D35442F13 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2014 20:03:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc3-s7.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc3-s7.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4963E40514 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2014 19:48:42 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY172-W13 ([65.54.190.188]) by bay0-omc3-s7.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 8 Jan 2014 18:36:48 -0800 From: "Paul R. Breuhan" To: Tigers Den Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 21:36:48 -0500 References: , , <097CE78175794AE69E44AF82406F4FB5@optiplex3301> FILETIME=[A507E020:01CF0CE3] Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam V8 car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I am in the minority, I would drive this eBay beast...having been a child in the 1970s. Of course the auction Alpine needs a tunnel ram, the rear wheel opening need to be radiused to match the really wide aluminum slotted mags/Mickey Thompson tires I would add...and a really outrageous lace/panel/candy colored paint job. I am sure I could fancy up and disco ball the interior to match the exterior craziness. Here is a link to a Mopar website I belong to, and they have a thread on Street Machine, in the middle of page 5 you will find an early Alpine all decked out.... http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=245221&page=5 Check all the pages, you will find all makes and models of cars from mild to wild. Paul _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 8 20:58:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9E84054A for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2014 20:58:14 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.frii.com (magicmail02.frii.com [216.17.135.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 71010403FA for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2014 20:57:46 -0700 (MST) Received: (qmail 28205 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2014 03:55:35 -0000 Received: from localhost (HELO BobsDell) (bobdixon@frii.com@127.0.0.1) by mail1.frii.com with SMTP (e4c6fd76-78e1-11e3-9af7-477910f2feac); Wed, 08 Jan 2014 20:55:35 -0700 From: "Bob Dixon" To: References: <1389211022.8196.YahooMailNeo@web142706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 20:55:32 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] BTM Continuation Cheetahs Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net These little guys look awesome! I bet they are a real handfull to drive. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Daily" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:57 PM Subject: [Tigers] BTM Continuation Cheetahs > Great read and pictures... > http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/08/fast-cat-the-bill-thomas-cheetah/ > > http://www.speedhunters.com/2013/08/btm-continuation-cheetah-up-close-and-personal/ > > > And controversies... > http://www.cheetahcars.com > > > Derek Daily > dtdaily@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/bobdixon@frii.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 9 10:17:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F29C242F1B for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 10:17:05 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2lp0242.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC64403ED for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 10:12:26 -0700 (MST) Received: from BY2PR07MB074.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.255.240.154) by BY2PR07MB075.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.255.240.155) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.842.7; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 17:10:10 +0000 Received: from BY2PR07MB074.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.15.56]) by BY2PR07MB074.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([169.254.15.119]) with mapi id 15.00.0842.003; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 17:10:10 +0000 From: "Taylor, Matthew" To: "Paul R. Breuhan" , Tigers Den Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Sunbeam V8 car Thread-Index: AQHPDOdlmtr+oAfw2km8wRbG2z+sjZp8n4+w Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 17:10:10 +0000 References: , , <097CE78175794AE69E44AF82406F4FB5@optiplex3301> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [159.153.4.51] x-forefront-prvs: 008663486A x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019001)(189002)(199002)(56776001)(77982001)(59766001)(76796001)(85306002)(76786001)(76576001)(47446002)(74662001)(74366001)(74502001)(31966008)(74316001)(54316002)(56816005)(69226001)(79102001)(53806001)(81816001)(63696002)(83072002)(81686001)(33646001)(92566001)(85852003)(81542001)(87936001)(4396001)(46102001)(54356001)(83322001)(74876001)(74706001)(47976001)(47736001)(90146001)(81342001)(80976001)(65816001)(49866001)(80022001)(50986001)(51856001)(2656002)(66066001)(76482001)(77096001)(87266001)(24736002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2PR07MB075; H:BY2PR07MB074.namprd07.prod.outlook.com; CLIP:159.153.4.51; FPR:; RD:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam V8 car Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net "I am in the minority, I would drive this eBay beast...having been a child in the 1970s." "I am sure I could fancy up and disco ball the interior to match the exterior craziness." The Chittenden AHRA World Champion drag car had green shag carpet installed in it during the 1970s. If only one of the previous owners had a picture for me to include in the book......or maybe it is best that I just don't see that. Matthew _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 9 11:05:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E0D42F91 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 11:05:51 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo101.cox.net (fed1rmfepo101.cox.net [68.230.241.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 400B242F5B for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 11:04:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo210 ([68.230.241.161]) by fed1rmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20140109180217.DEDO22627.fed1rmfepo101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo210> for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 13:02:17 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([98.176.175.184]) by fed1rmimpo210 with cox id Bu2G1n00h3z50UJ01u2HWL; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 13:02:17 -0500 a=vM6XNjjMN3Upq/i3PjlpAw==:17 a=Pb0Ze0ZI5mYA:10 a=H08THuA5SDkA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=TJBbYXHnzgQA:10 a=jOgogvGNAAAA:8 a=JufNJM7eAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=0ssVrkhxd68G858jI6wA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=4CyO1Cqjgf0A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=vM6XNjjMN3Upq/i3PjlpAw==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=sosnaenergyconsulting@cox.net Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2014 10:02:18 -0800 From: David Sosna User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 To: tigers@autox.team.net References: , , <097CE78175794AE69E44AF82406F4FB5@optiplex3301> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam V8 car/Cheetahs/Modified Alpines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Paul: Love it! Thanks for the link--the car reminds me of something Dave Deal might have drawn--whether it was something like an Alpine, or a bigger Ford or Chevy--they'd always have a super-short looking wheelbase and huge tires. And just to incorporate Dave Deal and Cheetahs into a modified Alpine thread: http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig15/10158538a.jpg Heh. Thanks again for a great link, Paul! Best Regards David Sosna On 01/08/2014 06:36 PM, Paul R. Breuhan wrote: > I am in the minority, I would drive this eBay beast...having been a child in > the 1970s. > > > Of course the auction Alpine needs a tunnel ram, the rear wheel opening need > to be radiused to match the really wide aluminum slotted mags/Mickey Thompson > tires I would add...and a really outrageous lace/panel/candy colored paint > job. > > > I am sure I could fancy up and disco ball the interior to match the exterior > craziness. > > > Here is a link to a Mopar website I belong to, and they have a thread on > Street Machine, in the middle of page 5 you will find an early Alpine all > decked out.... > > > http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=245221&page=5 > > > Check all the pages, you will find all makes and models of cars from mild to > wild. > > > Paul > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sosnaenergyconsulting@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 9 11:19:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B140442EF8 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 11:19:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f180.google.com (mail-qc0-f180.google.com [209.85.216.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8836B403E2 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 11:11:46 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id w7so2923938qcr.39 for ; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 10:09:32 -0800 (PST) h=message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GUkmLZAHDwYahYDBBWJ3JoQH1qa5hWMpuLNFQsF/Jic=; b=emqFPQvLk3niRmumrVphkvsTZSOYCu3825VxexAdvxnpiCwotSNzRM1FwYiDcpHm3a xjikADMC5SICR6cIUzlt/KiqQ0tFMDbcuarrRCZH6THnjBKFi6uV1FWJesxc8lD2nkhG LGvBlU/2sFG7sNUryFcS/We20T7iF3aZpMr9Y= d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GUkmLZAHDwYahYDBBWJ3JoQH1qa5hWMpuLNFQsF/Jic=; b=F5E02Mz4WRPE/b3De+/orK0T+3PvIUeWEmZzaIh5YkmqTyQ9gwmlzOznKBjC27zc6a +kXmAJTa+ZfXjSkrh7e4Pea6Viu5q/bHyKAUs/FQUSZVrKPu6Du4LjZNAD+1DSInaOHj xPO8VD14hLgGt7gzWFOFlHVCmhuSXuqrSHms0YHDpGISit4eJQBwtElFIz4GPXoKFMf/ uAHIof3/dmi1iEnXjhL5TXTUnuXsh/TZX9aiQ/mgY2dpBvPJQ6Kw9xDQuaVcXiuM2AoH 5an7Mx3WseT5XajmRUVdAQd9MbLyHGb/I7Kz8sYgxWLSxfliXhUDn1Zlxye8nc1IYMnp Q1Vw== w7mr10208768qen.52.1389290972516; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 10:09:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from DavePC (DRMONS0540W-156034166041.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.ns.bellaliant.net. [156.34.166.41]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d1sm7375028qai.7.2014.01.09.10.09.31 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 09 Jan 2014 10:09:32 -0800 (PST) From: "Dave Munroe" To: "David Sosna" , References: , , <097CE78175794AE69E44AF82406F4FB5@optiplex3301> <52CEE42A.5030908@cox.net> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 14:09:25 -0400 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam V8 car/Cheetahs/Modified Alpines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net OK - that does it - When I first saw the original post, I though the V8 Alpine was.....ugly...(!) but the Dave Deal interpretation did it for me.... Love it! Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Sosna" To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam V8 car/Cheetahs/Modified Alpines > Paul: > Love it! > Thanks for the link--the car reminds me of something Dave Deal might have > drawn--whether it was something like an Alpine, or a bigger Ford or > Chevy--they'd always have a super-short looking wheelbase and huge tires. > > And just to incorporate Dave Deal and Cheetahs into a modified Alpine > thread: > http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig15/10158538a.jpg > > Heh. > > > Thanks again for a great link, Paul! > > Best Regards > David Sosna > > On 01/08/2014 06:36 PM, Paul R. Breuhan wrote: >> I am in the minority, I would drive this eBay beast...having been a child >> in >> the 1970s. >> >> >> Of course the auction Alpine needs a tunnel ram, the rear wheel opening >> need >> to be radiused to match the really wide aluminum slotted mags/Mickey >> Thompson >> tires I would add...and a really outrageous lace/panel/candy colored >> paint >> job. >> >> >> I am sure I could fancy up and disco ball the interior to match the >> exterior >> craziness. >> >> >> Here is a link to a Mopar website I belong to, and they have a thread on >> Street Machine, in the middle of page 5 you will find an early Alpine all >> decked out.... >> >> >> http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=245221&page=5 >> >> >> Check all the pages, you will find all makes and models of cars from mild >> to >> wild. >> >> >> Paul >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sosnaenergyconsulting@cox.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/dave@munroe.ca _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 9 13:54:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFED442F62 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 13:54:08 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d10.mx.aol.com (omr-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7036E403F0 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 13:44:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mad02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mad02.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.208]) by omr-d10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 21C1A700496C1 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 15:42:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-dqe005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqe005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.162.81]) by mtaomg-mad02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CD8883800008D for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 15:42:26 -0500 (EST) From: Rollright@aol.com Full-name: Rollright Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 15:42:26 -0500 (EST) To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1389300147; bh=DvCIK9iAw0Z711o4Nq5QEg3ZjzrSCFiyfPYBrfyyRjQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=T+DTQ/tsLl7hur3dGXFZ7uF65prvi6ABPKJsizSt0i2t4p6VGAP11606KWYPa/Q1h rQehWYjp0r1ZTmjmP/xaaG/FfDd860R+M1+aIYhkorPB9SY8LMB4ReAQuQHki4qnfH MECKEo/B/DONKbwCNdDzOq6zOhhOm5LOB0RBcVoY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1addd052cf09b21d80 Subject: [Tigers] hard-top, soft-top shim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hello, I saw an item on Ebay that piqued my interest: a set of two hard-top, soft-top shims. item # 191022768616 I looked up the item in my big Alpine master parts book and no entry. So I contacted the seller, 'mac289', a guy named Mark. He was very knowledgeable and helpful and says that there were shims used in other places as well that are not blessed with part numbers. In fact, he has added a third picture to his auction showing a number of them. He has dismantled many cars and this picture shows more of these. Sadly, the last time I looked, these 2 sad little wedge-shaped aluminum shims are now at about a hundred dollars. Too rich for my blood. Anybody seen them before? Can you 'mike' them to give differential thickness? Maybe I can make some... No, Rick at SS doesn't have them in his catalog. Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE TAC 0763 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 9 15:12:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F1842F6F for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 15:12:57 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc1-s16.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc1-s16.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.27]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C6D340401 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 15:09:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from BAY172-W1 ([65.54.190.59]) by bay0-omc1-s16.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 9 Jan 2014 14:06:56 -0800 From: "Paul R. Breuhan" To: David Sosna , Tigers Den Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 17:06:55 -0500 References: , , , , <097CE78175794AE69E44AF82406F4FB5@optiplex3301>, , <52CEE42A.5030908@cox.net> FILETIME=[1C5D0D00:01CF0D87] Subject: [Tigers] Sunbeam V8 car/Cheetahs/Modified Alpines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Dave,I love Dave Deal's stuff. Anybody remember CARtoons magazine? I was heavily influenced by them growing up. Here are a couple of my drawings... Sketch of my old Tiger: http://www.breuhan.com/portfolio/illustration_and_artwork/Wild_Tiger.jpg And of my current Duster: http://www.breuhan.com/portfolio/illustration_and_artwork/Tornado_Duster.jpg Paul > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 10:02:18 -0800 > From: sosnaenergyconsulting@cox.net > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam V8 car/Cheetahs/Modified Alpines > > Paul: > Love it! > Thanks for the link--the car reminds me of something Dave Deal might > have drawn--whether it was something like an Alpine, or a bigger Ford or > Chevy--they'd always have a super-short looking wheelbase and huge tires. > > And just to incorporate Dave Deal and Cheetahs into a modified Alpine > thread: > http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig15/10158538a.jpg > > Heh. > > > Thanks again for a great link, Paul! > > Best Regards > David Sosna > > On 01/08/2014 06:36 PM, Paul R. Breuhan wrote: > > I am in the minority, I would drive this eBay beast...having been a child in > > the 1970s. > > > > > > Of course the auction Alpine needs a tunnel ram, the rear wheel opening need > > to be radiused to match the really wide aluminum slotted mags/Mickey Thompson > > tires I would add...and a really outrageous lace/panel/candy colored paint > > job. > > > > > > I am sure I could fancy up and disco ball the interior to match the exterior > > craziness. > > > > > > Here is a link to a Mopar website I belong to, and they have a thread on > > Street Machine, in the middle of page 5 you will find an early Alpine all > > decked out.... > > > > > > http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=245221&page=5 > > > > > > Check all the pages, you will find all makes and models of cars from mild to > > wild. > > > > > > Paul _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 9 15:59:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B9FF42F56 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 15:59:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo101.cox.net (fed1rmfepo101.cox.net [68.230.241.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C001540400 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 15:59:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo209 ([68.230.241.160]) by fed1rmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20140109225720.GUEN22627.fed1rmfepo101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo209> for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 17:57:20 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([98.176.175.184]) by fed1rmimpo209 with cox id ByxL1n00H3z50UJ01yxLJe; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 17:57:20 -0500 a=vM6XNjjMN3Upq/i3PjlpAw==:17 a=Pb0Ze0ZI5mYA:10 a=dEqmQ0rsTTsA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=95NQybKloxYA:10 a=Sop34PN-AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=jOgogvGNAAAA:8 a=JufNJM7eAAAA:8 a=6p94fRe7cPob2VAMQPQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=4CyO1Cqjgf0A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=ecNTKb2jtcSLvcc3qngA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=N60ENvfrjXcqe9C_:21 a=vM6XNjjMN3Upq/i3PjlpAw==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=sosnaenergyconsulting@cox.net Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2014 14:57:22 -0800 From: David Sosna User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 To: Tigers Den References: , , , , <097CE78175794AE69E44AF82406F4FB5@optiplex3301>, , <52CEE42A.5030908@cox.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam V8 car/Cheetahs/Modified Alpines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Paul: LOL! Those are great (no Tony-The-Tiger pun intended)! Best Regards David On 01/09/2014 02:06 PM, Paul R. Breuhan wrote: > Dave, > I love Dave Deal's stuff. > > > Anybody remember CARtoons magazine? I was heavily influenced by them > growing up. > > > Here are a couple of my drawings... > > > Sketch of my old Tiger: > http://www.breuhan.com/portfolio/illustration_and_artwork/Wild_Tiger.jpg > > > > > And of my current Duster: > http://www.breuhan.com/portfolio/illustration_and_artwork/Tornado_Duster.jpg > > > Paul > > > > > Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 10:02:18 -0800 > > From: sosnaenergyconsulting@cox.net > > To: tigers@autox.team.net > > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam V8 car/Cheetahs/Modified Alpines > > > > Paul: > > Love it! > > Thanks for the link--the car reminds me of something Dave Deal might > > have drawn--whether it was something like an Alpine, or a bigger > Ford or > > Chevy--they'd always have a super-short looking wheelbase and huge > tires. > > > > And just to incorporate Dave Deal and Cheetahs into a modified Alpine > > thread: > > http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig15/10158538a.jpg > > > > Heh. > > > > > > Thanks again for a great link, Paul! > > > > Best Regards > > David Sosna > > > > On 01/08/2014 06:36 PM, Paul R. Breuhan wrote: > > > I am in the minority, I would drive this eBay beast...having been > a child in > > > the 1970s. > > > > > > > > > Of course the auction Alpine needs a tunnel ram, the rear wheel > opening need > > > to be radiused to match the really wide aluminum slotted > mags/Mickey Thompson > > > tires I would add...and a really outrageous lace/panel/candy > colored paint > > > job. > > > > > > > > > I am sure I could fancy up and disco ball the interior to match > the exterior > > > craziness. > > > > > > > > > Here is a link to a Mopar website I belong to, and they have a > thread on > > > Street Machine, in the middle of page 5 you will find an early > Alpine all > > > decked out.... > > > > > > > > > http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=245221&page=5 > > > > > > > > > Check all the pages, you will find all makes and models of cars > from mild to > > > wild. > > > > > > > > > Paul _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 9 17:00:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9DB642713 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 17:00:50 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f45.google.com (mail-oa0-f45.google.com [209.85.219.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5ADB403F7 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 16:55:14 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-oa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id j17so1548143oag.4 for ; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 15:52:59 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=/G2vDla+TzUifscF0aLESij4in/PgzPwocM/nkImwhU=; b=OFn5DFGMKxAHuLrybi4usjiyJ/VaCvngXsX2JBZitBf2dOf0RDw4mUNKsZ30uKDi6K 05UmzIkO3yjhuE4/uuT2KMOj5ltClMlGAfKneWcK/EI+VnlM33JqdB7jFb76jDz5gkyx yBE0tbIYl1maPgis9MnF0MNlK4YpmtyF1er4tMA25uv1J5gBK2rHPshqajFAW7Gt7s5e zlAgBMepqZM236iN/RZJ+BnOiA4iTepDQeOsJ2Qqs21iIzzbGNrBfs9VyQKO94uoauL4 B4So+ht18gMXKLgcpWvyyu7pIOgdZkAim4yzIv3qUNIsp2WKMIlgKQF+7xvar1pf26hz zqIw== Thu, 09 Jan 2014 15:52:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.180.199.92] (198.sub-70-215-192.myvzw.com. [70.215.192.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id xs17sm8253322oeb.1.2014.01.09.15.52.58 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 09 Jan 2014 15:52:58 -0800 (PST) References: <097CE78175794AE69E44AF82406F4FB5@optiplex3301> <52CEE42A.5030908@cox.net> From: Cullen1972 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 17:52:57 -0600 To: "Paul R. Breuhan" Cc: Tigers Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam V8 car/Cheetahs/Modified Alpines Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Great work Paul!!!!! I love those old rat fink cartoons. You see a lot if musclecars, not many sunbeams! Sent from my iPhone. > On Jan 9, 2014, at 4:06 PM, "Paul R. Breuhan" wrote: > > Dave,I love Dave Deal's stuff. > > Anybody remember CARtoons magazine? I was heavily influenced by them growing > up. > > Here are a couple of my drawings... > > Sketch of my old Tiger: > http://www.breuhan.com/portfolio/illustration_and_artwork/Wild_Tiger.jpg > > > And of my current Duster: > http://www.breuhan.com/portfolio/illustration_and_artwork/Tornado_Duster.jpg > > Paul > > >> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 10:02:18 -0800 >> From: sosnaenergyconsulting@cox.net >> To: tigers@autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Sunbeam V8 car/Cheetahs/Modified Alpines >> >> Paul: >> Love it! >> Thanks for the link--the car reminds me of something Dave Deal might >> have drawn--whether it was something like an Alpine, or a bigger Ford or >> Chevy--they'd always have a super-short looking wheelbase and huge tires. >> >> And just to incorporate Dave Deal and Cheetahs into a modified Alpine >> thread: >> http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig15/10158538a.jpg >> >> Heh. >> >> >> Thanks again for a great link, Paul! >> >> Best Regards >> David Sosna >> >>> On 01/08/2014 06:36 PM, Paul R. Breuhan wrote: >>> I am in the minority, I would drive this eBay beast...having been a child > in >>> the 1970s. >>> >>> >>> Of course the auction Alpine needs a tunnel ram, the rear wheel opening > need >>> to be radiused to match the really wide aluminum slotted mags/Mickey > Thompson >>> tires I would add...and a really outrageous lace/panel/candy colored > paint >>> job. >>> >>> >>> I am sure I could fancy up and disco ball the interior to match the > exterior >>> craziness. >>> >>> >>> Here is a link to a Mopar website I belong to, and they have a thread on >>> Street Machine, in the middle of page 5 you will find an early Alpine all >>> decked out.... >>> >>> >>> http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/showthread.php?t=245221&page=5 >>> >>> >>> Check all the pages, you will find all makes and models of cars from mild > to >>> wild. >>> >>> >>> Paul > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmccann1972@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 9 19:06:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9381240535 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 19:06:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f51.google.com (mail-oa0-f51.google.com [209.85.219.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FFFA403F9 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 19:05:24 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-oa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id m1so4396071oag.10 for ; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 18:03:09 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=UW8IpjZkcKJPValTfLiSPlI3kVlUBqZmJeO+BwPbpf0=; b=U0dS+sDTVdNOoK5FvVtYhaG1Idg3NmEk1NnnambgBOwb5JDqNSLZ+wOq7EkFa15zC6 qhWmFPPGX/QBHOk9gaJkCquDAPF0Ix6+S6biaQsk1VyjTbIMVetwI1YxHbpdeqdreHJB NlYaAz3SG3FPJFdy9Zrd+VvcGqX8B4JhbBuFFajBnkKvJLqtlPlYbkuSHUHwJMxL11Ov h5rboNVmdRQnN3K2SZIZ5NfCDFHE8m3ujky++dVcq+Ac/Rty32ju7+Emky2lFxp9yNU4 GIvZeHtFvrNyPGYnQE5wPibXNLtDK6gSkXQAPQcpITqfPueFVUxPoFQRySoo5Gw37AUD 9TeA== qa4mr589849oeb.68.1389319389410; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 18:03:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.228.65 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 18:03:09 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 10:03:09 +0800 From: michael king To: "Rollright@aol.com" Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] hard-top, soft-top shim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jim, I have seen them.. and have them on the cars... there are slightly differentones for SI/II and the later cars. When we converted my dads SIVGT into a soft top we didnt have those.. so we foded a thin bit of ally over but only 1/2 along its length.. that gave it the wedge to adjust the clamps. Later we got a pair fo a wrecked car. I would be surprised if they went for much money... if you need a pair I can put you in ocntact with peoepl stateside that will have them and be reasonable about it. On 10 January 2014 04:42, wrote: > Hello, > > I saw an item on Ebay that piqued my interest: a set of two hard-top, > soft-top shims. > item # 191022768616 > > I looked up the item in my big Alpine master parts book and no entry. > So I contacted the seller, 'mac289', a guy named Mark. He was very > knowledgeable and helpful and says that there were shims used in other > places as > well that are not blessed with part numbers. In fact, he has added a third > picture to his auction showing a number of them. He has dismantled many > cars > and this picture shows more of these. > > Sadly, the last time I looked, these 2 sad little wedge-shaped aluminum > shims are now at about a hundred dollars. Too rich for my blood. > > Anybody seen them before? Can you 'mike' them to give differential > thickness? Maybe I can make some... > > No, Rick at SS doesn't have them in his catalog. > > Jim Armstrong > Mk 1A > 382002083 > LRXFE > TAC 0763 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 9 19:35:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA83E40513 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 19:35:58 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-35.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A14B403F0 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 19:27:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (omta006.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s0A2MK1L013750; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 18:25:15 -0800 Received: by dm0219.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4018b181) id dm0219.52831103.64fe8d; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 18:25:10 -0800 From: " Ron Fraser" To: , Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:24:26 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac8NfKYMWHVawwHKRW+kSx5NXm+G2AAK3Acg engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-01-09_07:2014-01-09,2014-01-09,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1401090213 Subject: Re: [Tigers] hard-top, soft-top shim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jim There is a shim listed in the Alpine Parts List in the SI & SII section; pg YV11. 2201875 Shim - Toggle Catch I don't see it listed anywhere else so no idea if it is a continuation part beyond this point or if there is another part number for the shim used later. I did some searching through my parts piles and found 1. It is a cast aluminum part. Looks like they may have been cast in pairs then cut across the thick part of the wedge. 1.32" x .79" Wedge .128" to .045 2 slots - .24" x .485" Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 3:42 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] hard-top, soft-top shim Hello, I saw an item on Ebay that piqued my interest: a set of two hard-top, soft-top shims. item # 191022768616 I looked up the item in my big Alpine master parts book and no entry. So I contacted the seller, 'mac289', a guy named Mark. He was very knowledgeable and helpful and says that there were shims used in other places as well that are not blessed with part numbers. In fact, he has added a third picture to his auction showing a number of them. He has dismantled many cars and this picture shows more of these. Sadly, the last time I looked, these 2 sad little wedge-shaped aluminum shims are now at about a hundred dollars. Too rich for my blood. Anybody seen them before? Can you 'mike' them to give differential thickness? Maybe I can make some... No, Rick at SS doesn't have them in his catalog. Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE TAC 0763 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 11 06:34:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265EE43089 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 06:34:44 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-queue03.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9AC143014 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 06:16:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com ([107.14.174.243]) by cdptpa-queue03.email.rr.com (InterMail vM.8.04.01.13 201-2343-100-167-20131028) with ESMTP id <20140110185324.IDUI11641.cdptpa-queue03.email.rr.com@cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com> for ; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:53:24 +0000 Received: from [72.224.119.118] ([72.224.119.118:56378] helo=[192.168.1.141]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 24/0C-12532-BCD30D25; Fri, 10 Jan 2014 18:37:00 +0000 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 13:36:55 -0500 From: Tod Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 To: tigers@autox.team.net, 'Dexter Polistock' Subject: [Tigers] Yellow Tiger on eBay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Did anyone else see the yellow Tiger on eBay? It looks well done and very nice but, on closer inspection, it raises some questions. First impression is that it's a MkIA with the square corner hood and doors as well as the vinyl boot cover. But then the owner mentions that it has a T10 and the Serial No. is B3473215, which would make it a MkI. But if it has a T10, it should be a really early MkI, not near the end of the run as indicated by the Serial No. To add to the confusion, there are no under-dash vents, but it has the later type of heater control and the JAL tag does not look kosher. So what's the story? For the $55,000 asking price, there shouldn't be anyquestions and it ought to have a TAC number, IMHO. The car is supposedly in Naples, FL. Anybody know it? Tod B382002384RLXFE TAC#864 Original Owner _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 11 14:37:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92FB1430DE for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 14:37:43 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yh0-f52.google.com (mail-yh0-f52.google.com [209.85.213.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A05843064 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 13:00:24 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-yh0-f52.google.com with SMTP id i7so1765040yha.39 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 11:58:00 -0800 (PST) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:from:content-type:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=0jlakWDE68bLXo0TnEg/VsX9CBAHOO92jv9cwztonwk=; b=Qp3406k4W5jg9PmkaFbVQalK/g2DbRb0i0FU8MCKTYITo9/qVVpm3lqz2b3LrePFvM wf0y9tL+CLbYRuKVvag0L8mvP7yVo6k/oz4BIFJiCyp7LJD6gDljWqOyJIy0goPgDZls RfV4z+1JYm02aSTKUYm1FKoUGxISM0r3uLItUifIlDKv4taXEff9caE58Ow3lBmX5HQ5 bAIbngcrJ41sWxbmVxdO0qo5LA7kLq3uqQ2YdujnMSMMXXOq2qTjrfojwExIJZ/SqSPh kriM2UaOFYqkwKK7hakSPVIgXUl2tKjBS2T8qd5DOnifSngh3Wg2uVscKU4bAz/2wd7E MeUA== e66mr376008yhe.69.1389466973887; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 11:02:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (71-80-50-181.dhcp.mant.nc.charter.com. [71.80.50.181]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 48sm18325156yhq.11.2014.01.11.11.02.53 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 11 Jan 2014 11:02:53 -0800 (PST) From: "H. B. Elam" Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 14:02:52 -0500 To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Tiger heater drain system Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Recently, during an intake manifold change-out, I had the choice of removing the heater drain duckbill or removing the left side motor mount bolts and lowering that side of the engine to allow access to rear-most manifold bolt. I chose the heater drain which required removal of the heater core, air duct/water drain rubber piece as well as the connecting hose and duckbill. The original duckbill is no longer pliable enough to reuse and my rubber drain piece had been jury-rigged in past years. As I wait for a replacement duckbill from SS I wonder what sequence might be best for reinstallation. The global part of the duckbill is too large to be installed from under the dash, unless they are more pliable than original. With the duckbill in place, installed from the engine compartment, working under the dash I think I can fit the connecting hose. Finally from the heater core box I hope to press the drain into place before replacing the heater core, hoses and bonnet latch plate. Any thoughts or suggestions from any who may have been in a similar situation? Thanks Harry Elam TAC Insp #37 B382000471 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 11 15:07:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B55A4430DA for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 15:07:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm9.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm9.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.152]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C4714307C for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 15:07:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from [98.137.12.55] by nm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jan 2014 22:05:26 -0000 Received: from [98.136.164.76] by tm15.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jan 2014 22:05:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp238.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Jan 2014 22:05:26 -0000 s=s1024; t=1389477926; bh=ncPee3FItAc+/7bEMABcC/1kAPMGg5Xa3qPIq75WF8Q=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=zyQptkHaTwVwvmWFGqVloSxWAWIxEuxFRr15rW7NyYE4aKgQWyRxDS2VEGtMC0i5jfhKFKg/UXcrhyU+8CrgMVwEmyNecFh8ycJfSnQTNw4+NiE6/40DKAE2UfCc+JAYYoX/GJF6b/8lAgfG/8/kmSaKLtz7S2AnwY5hvY+VXtU= 29pEu2WnMQXEFUPwvzCom5YVWhjjyWZh9EYQIWOR0zqr9CqFpS8Lyj10NtaK UVqLx6wJnvd5LccwyLI7rZua5FV33VLY1AKGlXyzrSoIBhtnG2LoKF0nhfvk iOHyIUm8fMrp0j_KTG4wrxwGZ5FBgjB2HWHLzaLg2BcwxVL.W3SyKEKUWOjp 3CsdrnxWxhUQY._.XMzVQgUcy0EN2qpX3MR15Mkg2cPhegC3tzGgqUi_ZA7I BttPxCza7LGNAfswSUQfU5HWc7K45ENqeMZ_Hzmz_7_WCDgspOJBjZ18akyK Anp20J9VgM.VkmO0H5nwCsq0aHELWNwBsNanIoJ.210nYkxcA2Awis1hOZ.f lP_P.fZZRg1gAj3IKgsYV6ZJA3bCswbGaBCshFhncjbZSrZbv7NYw5D4zIk0 _vC3WQKlj.oKtk4a_nS6CL2kfIn7lZQNLBrMXAMl0IHgypCLQEDM1NGc5Ten j.rj4KCKGNvTyl._xVB7xJFQpQ30P0iFCSg8FDd7IQ2isOYhtvDqqW1ULhmf J_e.tBWYLpB2JYZveoOo- xymcookie [216.39.61.254]) by smtp238.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 11 Jan 2014 22:05:26 +0000 UTC References: From: Michael Shainhouse Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 16:48:40 -0500 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net At Marnies call me Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 11, 2014, at 2:00 PM, tigers-request@autox.team.net wrote: > > Send Tigers mailing list submissions to > tigers@autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tigers-request@autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tigers-owner@autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Yellow Tiger on eBay (Tod Brown) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 13:36:55 -0500 > From: Tod Brown > To: tigers@autox.team.net, 'Dexter Polistock' > Subject: [Tigers] Yellow Tiger on eBay > Message-ID: <52D03DC7.8070705@roadrunner.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Did anyone else see the yellow Tiger on eBay? It looks well done and > very nice but, on closer inspection, it raises some questions. > > First impression is that it's a MkIA with the square corner hood and > doors as well as the vinyl boot cover. But then the owner mentions that > it has a T10 and the Serial No. is B3473215, which would make it a MkI. > But if it has a T10, it should be a really early MkI, not near the end > of the run as indicated by the Serial No. To add to the confusion, there > are no under-dash vents, but it has the later type of heater control and > the JAL tag does not look kosher. So what's the story? For the $55,000 > asking price, there shouldn't be anyquestions and it ought to have a TAC > number, IMHO. The car is supposedly in Naples, FL. Anybody know it? > > Tod > B382002384RLXFE > TAC#864 > Original Owner > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Tigers mailing list > Tigers@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > > > End of Tigers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11 > ************************************* _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jan 11 21:10:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E70542F78 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 21:10:17 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc3-s21.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc3-s21.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829B642F5F for ; Sat, 11 Jan 2014 21:09:58 -0700 (MST) Received: from BLU172-W40 ([65.55.116.73]) by blu0-omc3-s21.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 11 Jan 2014 20:07:33 -0800 From: David and Varley Tweddle To: "Tigers@autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:07:32 +0800 References: FILETIME=[D1BDBB70:01CF0F4B] Subject: [Tigers] Interesting Tiger web article I stumbled across. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Not 100% correct but close enough to give the feel of a Tiger. http://www.uniquecarsandparts.com.au/car_info_sunbeam_tiger.htm# Cheers from a very hot Perth. 41C or 105F!! For last two days. David Tweddle Perth West Australia > From: tigers-request@autox.team.net > Subject: Tigers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11 > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2014 12:00:02 -0700 > > Send Tigers mailing list submissions to > tigers@autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tigers-request@autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tigers-owner@autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Yellow Tiger on eBay (Tod Brown) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 13:36:55 -0500 > From: Tod Brown > To: tigers@autox.team.net, 'Dexter Polistock' > Subject: [Tigers] Yellow Tiger on eBay > Message-ID: <52D03DC7.8070705@roadrunner.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Did anyone else see the yellow Tiger on eBay? It looks well done and > very nice but, on closer inspection, it raises some questions. > > First impression is that it's a MkIA with the square corner hood and > doors as well as the vinyl boot cover. But then the owner mentions that > it has a T10 and the Serial No. is B3473215, which would make it a MkI. > But if it has a T10, it should be a really early MkI, not near the end > of the run as indicated by the Serial No. To add to the confusion, there > are no under-dash vents, but it has the later type of heater control and > the JAL tag does not look kosher. So what's the story? For the $55,000 > asking price, there shouldn't be anyquestions and it ought to have a TAC > number, IMHO. The car is supposedly in Naples, FL. Anybody know it? > > Tod > B382002384RLXFE > TAC#864 > Original Owner > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Tigers mailing list > Tigers@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > > > End of Tigers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11 > ************************************* _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 12 09:34:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C1A43501 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 09:34:30 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (fed1rmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A3C42F4E for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 09:34:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo210 ([68.230.241.161]) by fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20140112163141.GVYL7687.fed1rmfepo201.cox.net@fed1rmimpo210> for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:31:41 -0500 Received: from laptop ([68.229.224.237]) by fed1rmimpo210 with cox id D4Xg1n00d57wa98014XhjQ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:31:41 -0500 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=0lbn5Km4bHQA:10 a=31Y8PPsET8s_5H5IM3cA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=d69KP1vhmxmSAh7YgNcA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=awtiger@cox.net From: "Andy Walker" To: Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:31:37 -0600 Thread-Index: Ac8PspJYMkOvFRFSSr+AehXIEIAbuw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Slave cylinder bracket revisited Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hey, guys: A huge "thank you" to all who responded to my plea for a slave cylinder bracket. A list member in Utah was the first to come through with a bracket and we've already made the deal. My car now has a perfect original slave cylinder bracket to replace the old messed up one. Once I got the new bracket and could compare it to my old one, I was amazed at just how bad my old one had been treated. Not only had someone done a sloppy welding job on it, they had also ground down the center bolt hole and corresponding strengthening ribs to about half of their original thickness. The only thing that I can think is that they must have done that to be able to take it on and off with the motor in the car (just a guess on my part.frankly, I don't have a clue why someone would do that). The bottom line, however, is that you guys once again helped me out and I deeply appreciate it. I'm taking pics of my engine compartment freshening job as I go and will try to get them posted somewhere soon for everyone to see. Take care and have a great Sunday, Andy Walker Edmond, OK B382001600LRXFE TAC #740 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 12 11:51:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA34434E7 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:51:33 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout17.eigbox.net (bosmailout17.eigbox.net [66.96.189.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7511242F09 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:51:27 -0700 (MST) Received: from bosmailscan11.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.11]) by bosmailout17.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1W2Q5h-0005aE-F0 for tigers@autox.team.net; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:48:57 -0500 Received: from bosimpout04.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.4]) by bosmailscan11.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1W2Q5i-0007s3-4l for tigers@autox.team.net; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:48:58 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp16.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.16]) by bosimpout04.eigbox.net with NO UCE id D6ox1n0060LoEWa016oxk2; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:48:58 -0500 a=SHyvVz8TQuewofNHp6ZJtQ==:17 a=OPgJcfM40kIA:10 a=n0KVGEqHWhAA:10 a=pxMsQaioSnYA:10 a=kEh8VdYBrxAA:10 a=7cSlj-FvRxEA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=Or_tTDS8AAAA:8 a=rNXPc0HIvkgA:10 a=-dFBWsZRckpvJivmcekA:9 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=2OW49aEHms2tn/AeNJ+rfA==:117 Received: from [67.202.159.250] (port=3071 helo=[192.168.1.103]) by bosauthsmtp16.eigbox.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim) id 1W2Q5h-0000Rw-7K for tigers@autox.team.net; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:48:57 -0500 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 10:48:48 -0800 From: Larry Mayfield Organization: Mayfield Motorsport User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Shift Boot Install Wisdom Needed... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Ok, so I removed a shift boot that has been on the Tiger for, lemme see, an even 50 years. Hard as an old tractor tire that has been out in the sun for several decades. I have a new one to install, along with a new chrome ring and screws. So I am looking at the reverse lockout bar and saying to myself...that looks like it is going to be difficult to do, lol. I see that the lever can be removed but, truthfully, that does not look like it will help any at all. So, I am guessing that the proscribed method is to simply stretch that boot over the shaft and the lockout bar as best one can. That it? Does a slight amount of heat from a heat gun help any? Silicon spray? How have some of you folk recently done it? Any help out there? larry -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 12 13:17:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C914434FE for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:17:23 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm49.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm49.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.120.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CC3B742F21 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:48:17 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm49.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2014 19:45:48 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.114] by nm49.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2014 19:43:08 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.151] by tm105.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2014 19:43:08 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.250] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2014 19:43:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1059.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jan 2014 19:43:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 52163 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jan 2014 19:43:08 -0000 s=s1024; t=1389555788; bh=PlmkieGFOyI/Upj4hDXFXlFhMQFHNhc0R2cwv4YRC3o=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=H97phBO6Kzs8FBOggx5j4Pr2+JoXnskhYuNFTTMAMSS3W+fHS/HOnyZsMu6yYLsi7w8JDLqMX0eV2uo9eNPeRXiWXNIfiJi13AAPJ7UKrAl2N3bNpthzycvnpP9fEtRltx1KxAk1RaUMr/X+eNxe29iww4hagrBbonM2UcKksKE= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IzNSZUjFvVMW7SATWQxbyzhHf1tvZha6opEXBA5HUmUfW4gtuOc1SeyJXR98yFeqwF2xd6Le6mocf7azPgCo//Cp2G24vowpELoUnLglYlFhkaggLcoRlw42bgYME96EuLMffs2KVv5Pb3FaLrJwip57WePM1LeNO3tL2Pzjatc=; Ng1bB66uAh6CR.V8iP8YaUe73zrgUnoBNU.hXrTG.CP.GP1gO97.t9bYLa01 r05Cd1M40Rya7zVZT61YWVmjKgE_rxVDI6sr6QcQg8GUpne1RcFD8jwpoXYL J_vvuY_NlTTfO34glZ3mmvdSorKTSu_6E6KjySgZiwncTSa71l0669Yr5DoK ZcQnGITe3apIXarv4y.KB8T8.Wdk_K0nXlXl8abp_gB1QjCxy.M.FyFLQFmh amVCmHSJ7iSEAmjXkkjfnYds0DC38L8FYVdaE71td9e_eoxndwadDJnEJejs zITYXQph7d9F3jSpnBHRdjhTUB6KifKvNa6uXpA7W9S1ShDaevGEVb1JjCCo al_EpoA6TePsiT7K3Mh6nlnuc5bAKeC.ytUH6QrMqcUP6qOqJf3Tv_PMe9Pn qaj.BYvWwLNMDZfPMuRQg14C7LjGeQBvscHS6we8xiM_xMTtvPUrDMlMLWK2 cWt9S0ifyWWileCuAIvqan1OKZOqatzKIThYxdb3kyS9zlbZKAG3D1Y.g8n6 xSKTTuMDYjK.luQMWdMcImfQE_YL92._JjSXpkWnICDewmVa1NCnad26y9lM L3tMZVyp0IVs1J2caGt4J.qVL Received: from [72.29.162.138] by web141106.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:43:07 PST TGFycnkKCkkgd2VudCB0aHJvdWdoIG15IHNoaWZ0ZXIgZWFybGllciB0aGlzIHllYXIgYW5kIHJlY2FsbGVkIHRoYXQgc2VydmljaW5nIGl0IGlzIGEgc3ViamVjdCB0aGF0IGNvbWVzIHVwIHBlcmlvZGljYWxseS4gSW4gdGhlIGhvcGUgaXQgY291bGQgYmUgYSBwZXJtYW5lbnQgcmVzb3VyY2UgZm9yIGp1c3QgdGhlc2Ugb2NjYXNpb25zLCBJIHRvb2sgdGhlIG9wcG9ydHVuaXR5IHRvIGRvY3VtZW50IHRoZSBwYXJ0cywgZnVuY3Rpb25hbGl0eSBhbmQgY29ycmVjdCBkaXMvYXNzZW1ibHkgb2YgdGhlIGVudGkBMAEBAQE- References: <52D2E390.8030506@mayfco.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 11:43:07 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Packer To: "drmayf@mayfco.com" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shift Boot Install Wisdom Needed... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Larry I went through my shifter earlier this year and recalled that servicing it is a subject that comes up periodically. In the hope it could be a permanent resource for just these occasions, I took the opportunity to document the parts, functionality and correct dis/assembly of the entire shifter unit. I will send you an image and accompanying Word doc. Terry Packer 9470018 ________________________________ From: Larry Mayfield To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 10:48 AM Subject: [Tigers] Shift Boot Install Wisdom Needed... Ok, so I removed a shift boot that has been on the Tiger for, lemme see, an even 50 years. Hard as an old tractor tire that has been out in the sun for several decades. I have a new one to install, along with a new chrome ring and screws. So I am looking at the reverse lockout bar and saying to myself...that looks like it is going to be difficult to do, lol. I see that the lever can be removed but, truthfully, that does not look like it will help any at all. So, I am guessing that the proscribed method is to simply stretch that boot over the shaft and the lockout bar as best one can. That it? Does a slight amount of heat from a heat gun help any? Silicon spray? How have some of you folk recently done it? Any help out there? larry -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/packertl3@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 12 13:23:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A58343549 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:23:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepi205.cox.net (fed1rmfepi205.cox.net [68.230.241.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C05FE40520 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:19:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from fed1rmimpo110 ([68.230.241.159]) by fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20140112192002.UIYR26500.fed1rmfepo102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo110> for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:20:02 -0500 Received: from laptop ([68.229.224.237]) by fed1rmimpo110 with cox id D7Kz1n00K57wa98017L0Qp; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:20:01 -0500 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:17 a=jRv-G6LFjwwA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=xzuvYu4ce9EA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=QNlNA_1rV9iMu7rsjvsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=awtiger@cox.net From: "Andy Walker" To: , References: Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:19:56 -0600 Thread-Index: AQHabgMXHcwMwnpAfu93VdO8nibfgJpqufTw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shift Boot Install Wisdom Needed... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Larry: The last one I replaced was years and years ago, but I do remember that I stretched it over one side of the reverse T-bar at a time. I didn't use any heat or lubricant; just took my time. I'm sure you'll find that method will work for you, too. Andy Walker Edmond, OK B382001600LRXFE TAC #740 -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2014 12:49 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Shift Boot Install Wisdom Needed... Ok, so I removed a shift boot that has been on the Tiger for, lemme see, an even 50 years. Hard as an old tractor tire that has been out in the sun for several decades. I have a new one to install, along with a new chrome ring and screws. So I am looking at the reverse lockout bar and saying to myself...that looks like it is going to be difficult to do, lol. I see that the lever can be removed but, truthfully, that does not look like it will help any at all. So, I am guessing that the proscribed method is to simply stretch that boot over the shaft and the lockout bar as best one can. That it? Does a slight amount of heat from a heat gun help any? Silicon spray? How have some of you folk recently done it? Any help out there? larry -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/awtiger@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jan 12 14:41:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06FBE42A58 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:41:55 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout09.eigbox.net (bosmailout09.eigbox.net [66.96.185.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB6DF42A58 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:41:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from bosmailscan15.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.15]) by bosmailout09.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1W2SkG-0003RY-Oo for tigers@autox.team.net; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 16:39:00 -0500 Received: from bosimpout04.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.4]) by bosmailscan15.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1W2SkG-0001Pb-HD for tigers@autox.team.net; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 16:39:00 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp04.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.4]) by bosimpout04.eigbox.net with NO UCE id D9ez1n00305GATN019ezP0; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 16:39:00 -0500 a=SHyvVz8TQuewofNHp6ZJtQ==:17 a=OPgJcfM40kIA:10 a=n0KVGEqHWhAA:10 a=jRv-G6LFjwwA:10 a=kEh8VdYBrxAA:10 a=7cSlj-FvRxEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=Or_tTDS8AAAA:8 a=xzuvYu4ce9EA:10 a=utt4UN1a5jpamAfwg3gA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=jcMFiYeD4Gz02xRQ37rMPA==:117 Received: from [67.202.159.250] (port=4808 helo=[192.168.1.103]) by bosauthsmtp04.eigbox.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim) id 1W2SkF-0001Ql-MG for tigers@autox.team.net; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 16:38:59 -0500 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 13:38:48 -0800 From: Larry Mayfield Organization: Mayfield Motorsport User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" References: <52D2E390.8030506@mayfco.com> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Shift Boot Install Wisdom Needed... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Ok! It is now on! Heating was the solution..kinda cold here so that worked out well. Kept my hands warm also.. Many thanks to all! larry ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed On 1/12/2014 10:48 AM, Larry Mayfield wrote: > Ok, so I removed a shift boot that has been on the Tiger for, lemme > see, an even 50 years. Hard as an old tractor tire that has been out > in the sun for several decades. I have a new one to install, along > with a new chrome ring and screws. So I am looking at the reverse > lockout bar and saying to myself...that looks like it is going to be > difficult to do, lol. I see that the lever can be removed but, > truthfully, that does not look like it will help any at all. So, I am > guessing that the proscribed method is to simply stretch that boot > over the shaft and the lockout bar as best one can. That it? Does a > slight amount of heat from a heat gun help any? Silicon spray? How > have some of you folk recently done it? > > Any help out there? > > larry _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 13 14:37:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179B542EFA for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:37:10 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm32.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm32.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03C0D40524 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 10:03:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm32.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2014 17:01:11 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.128] by nm32.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2014 16:58:25 -0000 Received: from [98.139.215.141] by tm16.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2014 16:58:25 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.194] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2014 16:58:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Jan 2014 16:58:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 37530 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Jan 2014 16:58:25 -0000 s=s1024; t=1389632305; bh=tYnaPi/z5cnoNm63jr19qUR5fRyQyNc0sw6kZ5Xttp8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QNxCjgw31RQLRtNGAkSgMvvlW4MDrHyqkAZTuSN38kZtQbPBFmgBpOgLLNZJJIApDEZDbG8avd1glIQkmwmMZ5RyRkNNzC/nxksTcvk7mh3vLgJUrH6ajde8OfsTuM9FLw9qHAsyXPOgHxaP0KQeG6dCpo5Ad+mlvpseKsJD07A= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hPp3rJa+n/cKq374zd/LIVp6F58h0dL7YIZ9+bhy/6UAQwSOcsd+izmVRF2XW+pxbzdkW9L605Tcu3momTU01SfGR1jdCKYK5vLQK91x2ZmCgJc7D09gQ9QVh8s8jG6sGgiIvc1q5pKIL60vxvQtRvJxQprnmaKC/JXL9oTYpQg=; _YyKCPtv55hZXZULcg4zB_jVVDU7XprW.5Kw0PBsmbg0md7kV6dEZQkljOyu vi.EmsPWrDZCD2qdv8FlmT49GgHgUqWjPx7fvd9MG2MDMy2tmKsXaBFwABY_ 7FDkMbMHfgqmHs542os3LWp7a6L0ycUb1Ass5lfsnBwAZamMQkQO3UoDROEh JqJ0W6bAX5SxWj32kqnCFx8qM8AvZY.aOMct22_xzQCiN2.w8U19J7S2eRt2 MCo5lt8uViO3nFZs4DihoVxZ3fedi.fjAMVJV.u3vLVF1BtaQh0ZSa999kit EZEXoVGwRxI6FoGcMp1ppysgqYJLyGh5YDmBI61VVbKBgSwfnXj13WcKzfZm 4j.T97a79Q17GSN0FowRUQdqzYDea6FeqK3Mm040_ff.bOiEvvmce6NRDK0L .izLczTQdRlqQfFEk4nNC6RL0sI1xKF4.G0NEyOhb1UspPC5yuluRqBo3w13 OTcENp6y13Ue3aLM6o0CzDsVW61u_7oxhG3Wk2oaiiolHr5kHJ17elkhZNUD hRrXCvY.G0kPt0cr2sWw8.qb8pMBXWpqHcC3PgWQ0zH7Yvbu0fvGX3_dlGpa Rqz.t0WZ1TOVx2wd4QYaUPYUhUobsA88tee6mGL5VvWfu3CRtyjkOMzBnZuM 0okWvsAyza2lvBN8HkTj_eWRnzRTFqnLftwRlvXwckW1n_TQyLg-- Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:58:24 PST Cmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuaG9sbHl3b29kcmVwb3J0ZXIuY29tL3ZpZGVvL2pheS1sZW5vLWNyYXNoZWQtcG9yc2NoZS1jYXJyZXJhLTY2MzExNwoKSW4gdGhlIHRoZSBzYW1lIHZlaW4gYXMgdGhlIHJlY2VudCBjcmFzaCBvZiBhIENhcnJlcmEgR1QsIHdpdGggYWN0b3IgUGF1bCBXYWxrZXIgLCB0aGVyZSBpcyB0aGlzIHRyYWNrIHRlc3QgYnkgSmF5IExlbm8sIHR1dG9yZWQgYnkgcmFjZXIgYW5kIHNvbiBvZiBNYXJrLCBEYXZpZCBEb25vaHVlLCBvZiBhbm90aGVyIENhcnJlcmEgR1Qgb24gYSBOYXNjYXIgdHJhY2sBMAEBAQE- Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 08:58:24 -0800 (PST) From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Off topic-resend Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/video/jay-leno-crashed-porsche-carrera-663117 In the the same vein as the recent crash of a Carrera GT, with actor Paul Walker , there is this track test by Jay Leno, tutored by racer and son of Mark, David Donohue, of another Carrera GT on a Nascar track. Rande _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 13 15:34:27 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F8340396 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:34:22 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.225]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25DA94006E for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 11:58:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from [72.224.119.118] ([72.224.119.118:56137] helo=[192.168.1.142]) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id CA/2A-16445-0D634D25; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 18:56:17 +0000 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:56:16 -0500 From: Tod Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 To: tigers@autox.team.net, Rollright@aol.com, Dexter Polistock Subject: [Tigers] Yellow Tiger on eBay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I received a reply to my inquiry regarding the yellow Tiger on ebay from the owner which I quote below: Hello- I've listed the car for my father. He just confirmed over the weekend that he had simply "mis-remembered" the car having a T-10. You are correct that the first 50 cars were T-10, and the rest Top-Loaders; this car has a top-loader. As for the 3-piece boot, we believe that the previous owner chose to use the fabric style boot rather than reinstall the 3-piece unit during restoration. The one thing we cannot figure out is why the car doesn't have the round corners on the hood and doors. Every detail is correct for a tiger on this car with the exception of the hood and door cut-lines. If the car does not sell this week, we plan to have a Tiger expert authenticate the car and provide a TAC (Tiger Authentication Certificate). - mgordonholden I also requested info from Norm and this is what he had to say: Tod, Personalized cross-over bodied MK I, non-factory replacement ID elements, uninformed seller description, what more could you ask for? Norm FWIW Tod B382002384LRXFE TAC#864 Original Owner ; _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 13 18:35:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328604040E for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 18:35:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-36.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D1E7403C5 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:15:41 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004960.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s0DKCLqP029663 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:12:58 -0800 Received: by dm0224.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4018b335) id dm0224.52cf75f5.5eaaa for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 12:12:29 -0800 From: " Ron Fraser" To: Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 15:12:20 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac8Qm8MlOPs7FUouTHi2ThQmSiAqwA== engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-01-13_03:2014-01-13,2014-01-13,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1401130137 Subject: [Tigers] Original Tiger Engine Study Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net To All My annual request for engine information. I'm looking at Original Tiger engines from a Ford casting and date code point of view. My goal is to add to Tiger knowledge. So if you have an original Tiger engine or if you know anyone who does; contact me. I have a study sheet that I will send you. I'm looking for more information on all the Tiger Engine Groups. I have no information for the 1st group of engines - T15KL - possibly only 9 were made. I believe these engines were only used in the AF Tigers and some of them were changed by Rootes to 289 engines; I'm interested in those 289 engines too. My hope is there is still one T15KL engine still around somewhere. I have little information on these engine groups: E7KL, G13KL, L2KA, K22KA, T12KA, S6KA and the March build of the B19KC - approximately B19KC 5570 - 6000. It would be nice to determine engine tag numbers for the March and Oct build of the B19KC engine group. Somewhere between the F21KA and B19KC engine groups; Ford cast a special 260 specification intake manifold for the Tiger - C5OE-9425D. The only casting date I have for this manifold is 5A28 = Jan 28,1965. I do list one on the 26th but I believe that is a misread which is very easy to do with any of these numbers. I just received a 260 block casting date of 5J29 - Sept 29, 1965. A bit of a surprise because I thought the last 260 block castings were in July 1965. The search for knowledge continues Thanks Ron Fraser _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jan 13 20:51:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32F940408 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 20:51:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f47.google.com (mail-la0-f47.google.com [209.85.215.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DA6D40520 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 14:46:29 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-la0-f47.google.com with SMTP id eh20so3393558lab.34 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:43:44 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=4//0uCi7ewVVQWbA0qV/n+s8Hbhdbxy2dCm5JO2ThnI=; b=BH+TYweqKFji9wZkst4vUzQnFjn5GgAUPJD6Gcj07RJrgf0lFb62A6b6kV/WSwDXHx NVjkRcgB7x9N5lAy2SIqc8cFXUpCaTb9iI30Rxa8RiFizVqa7MAgkqK8RQASNe2KMoGX p7yaixT/u+eCWyZQh6wRMJwIMJ9j70isI7wlm2cd3qcW/fNYxTeDlN1IETjAQbZWHTiE vQsQCaLzt9l1w/wlA1mZcnl9PbeN7DJnYTtBoTPHIE10b28ng/zAm30FqrTjCFiNwdWT LwFVDNPp+zgh7VlurgPFqwVcNarteKFtV4rflaXmmtOxbTN7V/nB5kyaV9KpVOGswST/ yaSw== vg9mr2356656lac.55.1389649424599; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:43:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.200.105 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 13:43:14 -0800 (PST) References: <1389632304.58154.YahooMailNeo@web162701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> From: "michael@michaelshortt.com" Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 16:43:14 -0500 To: snakebit289 Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Off topic-resend Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The car is treacherous, always has been, I was with Bobby Rahal at Roebling Road in Savannah, Georgia and he was driving it at 9/10ths and it was a handful for him. It was fast and cool looking, but it's not a car for 99% of the people who own one. Michael. On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 11:58 AM, snakebit289 wrote: > > http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/video/jay-leno-crashed-porsche-carrera-663117 > > In the the same vein as the recent crash of a Carrera GT, with actor Paul > Walker , there is this track test by Jay Leno, tutored by racer and son of > Mark, David Donohue, of another Carrera GT on a Nascar track. > > Rande > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael@michaelshortt.com > > > -- Michael L. Shortt Savannah, Georgia www.michaelshortt.com michael@michaelshortt.com 912-232-9390 This email is protected by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 U.S.C. Sec. 2510-2521, is confidential and may be legally privileged. 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Thank you _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 14 00:31:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E254044E for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 00:31:02 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-36.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F12040546 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 18:21:54 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (omta002.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s0E1DKs4004921 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 17:19:09 -0800 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4018b061) id dm0213.52cf760d.6402c for ; Mon, 13 Jan 2014 17:16:24 -0800 From: " Ron Fraser" To: Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2014 20:16:18 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac8Qxjn0811OLyzbTh2x1yJbEblsCg== engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-01-13_05:2014-01-13,2014-01-13,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1401130197 Subject: [Tigers] Original Tiger Engine Study Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net To All (I sent this earlier today but it did not show up - 2nd attempt) My annual request for engine information. I'm looking at Original Tiger engines from a Ford casting and date code point of view. My goal is to add to Tiger knowledge. So if you have an original Tiger engine or if you know anyone who does; contact me. I have a study sheet that I will send you. I'm looking for more information on all the Tiger Engine Groups. I have no information for the 1st group of engines - T15KL - possibly only 9 were made. I believe these engines were only used in the AF Tigers and some of them were changed by Rootes to 289 engines; I'm interested in those 289 engines too. My hope is there is still one T15KL engine still around somewhere. I have little information on these engine groups: E7KL, G13KL, L2KA, K22KA, T12KA, S6KA and the March build of the B19KC - approximately B19KC 5570 - 6000. It would be nice to determine engine tag numbers for the March and Oct build of the B19KC engine group. Somewhere between the F21KA and B19KC engine groups; Ford cast a special 260 specification intake manifold for the Tiger - C5OE-9425D. The only casting date I have for this manifold is 5A28 = Jan 28,1965. I do list one on the 26th but I believe that is a misread which is very easy to do with any of these numbers. I just received a 260 block casting date of 5J29 - Sept 29, 1965. A bit of a surprise because I thought the last 260 block castings were in July 1965. The search for knowledge continues Thanks Ron Fraser _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 14 14:10:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915C040423 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 14:10:41 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-35.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B612403C7 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 07:14:56 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (omta001.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s0EEBHKp005507 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 06:12:19 -0800 Received: by dm0225.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 40189194) id dm0225.52cf75f1.7c62f for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 06:12:17 -0800 From: " Ron Fraser" To: Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 09:12:10 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac8Qxjn0811OLyzbTh2x1yJbEblsCgAbEG+A engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-01-14_04:2014-01-14,2014-01-14,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1401140067 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Original Tiger Engine Study Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry about the multiple sends. For some reason there was a 5 hr delay between me sending to the Tiger List and receiving my message; 6 hr for the 2nd message. Lets see how much of a delay this one has. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fraser Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 8:16 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Original Tiger Engine Study To All (I sent this earlier today but it did not show up - 2nd attempt) _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 14 16:35:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543C34043C for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 16:35:18 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm49.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm49.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.120.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5FA8040517 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 11:06:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm49.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2014 18:03:52 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.117] by nm49.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2014 18:00:54 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.171] by tm108.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2014 18:00:54 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.240] by tm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2014 18:00:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1049.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2014 18:00:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 70676 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jan 2014 18:00:54 -0000 s=s1024; t=1389722454; bh=hq556+igB2V5JIiZqyQmNG+ufaosOUra0jWkHQCqz0U=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=h7ScTmTrsjmCrXq/25PxW1kl99R8CsB+ReG+pxdz+B4VtOmdt2rwLRe9QQTr4/J0PGYY+LYVlEsL9QWX3kbLz77u/naC5uMTPcmjEH2GMMrzRMnKc2NrK1Sqigs5P4AfRVRw4oB2GkjZR/dgZpzgLChyHV+dLr1ezybsTxfP/yk= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=3CM85A6J2RQ4C2d894NcuK6d+yr2TskpD25Uy7MMvCVwaz43LjTED1y44tBxZJlVxwH7ry3GvLvuO08DUpGH46pny/H3fyU1JHcQMi9PNdDrn0WegJ9faDXD2RzxDw6ruAo3FihyVSmud7iWcLYGHQC6PUjNGB+sXqpZR73s5rE=; yEAZXQIE_DOAgwSYlkQ76iH9vb_jyyRn95wRvLdm70zSDTScS5PgAtLZwOu. 9Hw.gIhC4yhTCXaliyGtfnK.Uq8tnX9mDQCqipUpe7ENPSFPOP6casAeMaGd uxHn6th_Kvv.Itcv_68DNb0xPhD7i6vhgjCXGVvGtYQ8l5r8CaOH5.CI6GEf hvMRfUql8d_KXe24M5cAskfe3cWrsdAUCMqK51wBkcI9MqOV973jI0foXgNE uezIJBrloCPb7AaPFCf0Vg6URTBc4W5qxOVk3msC2vKkcnzw6GcfApVBYx1O tV.7fUyy5rCW2AbsP6cZKQUUO0ncZtx3BEWUuf_0uB.0gjrwOuz72v.EEmGA 5pxg0gFdbkULEXiA4ghwaFOvWZH_lSdMzQWSYQMIh6M3nskog4X0gXIOi4MR KZy8KqHyHeaKNB_gOAq4nJAmelrbfT_16.PBcm_nIWKpbTv_eu0JlRJPdD28 Zvi.Za6Y5QF6k04ls22P9R_iVQQ3K4u8R6hlt9wRu2T6CKODqNXxLGQwft96 I7sPMsa8- Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 10:00:54 PST Li4uIFRoaXMgZnJvbSBEb24gQW50aWxsYSwgd2hvIHRyaWVkIHRvIHN1Ym1pdCBoaXMgYm9vdCByZXBsYWNlbWVudCBhbnN3ZXIsIGFuZCBpdCB3YXNuJ3QgYWNjZXB0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b3guCgoKMS4gcHJlaGVhdCB0aGUgdG9wIG9mIHRoZSBuZXcgYm9vdCBpbiB2ZXJ5IHdhcm0gd2F0ZXIuIExldCBpdCBzb2FrLgoyLiBSZW1vdmUgdGhlIGtub2IKMy5TbGlwIHRoZSBib290IG9uIGZyb20gdGhlIHRvcAo0LiBHZXQgYSBtZWRpdW0gc2l6ZSBwaGlsbGlwcyBzY3JldyBkcml2ZXIsIHdpdGggYSByb3VuZCBzaGEBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 10:00:54 -0800 (PST) From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tigers - replacing the shift boot Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net ... This from Don Antilla, who tried to submit his boot replacement answer, and it wasn't accepted by autox. 1. preheat the top of the new boot in very warm water. Let it soak. 2. Remove the knob 3.Slip the boot on from the top 4. Get a medium size phillips screw driver, with a round shaft(no square or beveled edges) Slip it between the center boot hole and the top of the shift lever. 5. Gently pull on the screwdriver outwardly to widen the hole so that it slips over one of the reverse fingers. Repeat, slipping the hole over the remaining reverse release finger. 6. As you do this you might think you'll tear the boot, but go gently while the boot is still warm. 7 Make sure you soaked the boot in hot water for at least 10 minutes, longer doesn't hurt either. 8. Using a screwdriver with a round shaft gives you a nice handle while you're stretching the center hole. 9. Be patient, and good luck. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 14 16:55:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A350640454 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 16:55:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2288B403FC for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 11:18:38 -0700 (MST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2014 18:16:00 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.112] by nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2014 18:13:02 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.167] by tm103.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2014 18:13:01 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.231] by tm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2014 18:13:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Jan 2014 18:13:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 31690 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Jan 2014 18:13:00 -0000 s=s1024; t=1389723180; bh=i40xcSpcWKb8oKxw3/bxabhqNN+g9/ZvpotZDjoX1Fs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=r6F13Wsy0qYc+d/BY8OGfRR/eiXmMTAfSKSYDMGVDGbsZafplTVJqN4tRayDRvPmGbwImgxTjLeW3Vc2BsymZ+i4mfF4vCuywlvSVJedMwCfNLAJ9SA1B366UvtGAme+Ou9SXe4eTzumojNkd0vMk4jH5ITWf6duERx84k6BUnQ= s=s1024; d=pacbell.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EBwR+OmBtTJRcN1OZ2etO1Q7HBYUboly2W8M+5wlRs9+m0aT+z/tvBtuwHQmNEDBijY4OLA2gu/xBwkijL7CRhW+qfeYsjmEd+/zihn/npoR/0Qe2QZYfBuwGl1A/AA6e7KpuxKwEl6pAFq/FRUJThGe6DjLJ5lz0LY6Kv3IdfA=; qK89z07scB7sFBa1rydMq5O8sjbJ5_jQS.XaqZjvl50dq5RTHD4FDhq0M6mw NJ8dfHHdzcBQzzDtE_M0mSMCvtqyJgs1aS4z8M_6fsABFJbG6AIfbDHh4DVu xydBGpkPLvR2E_4T.Gbu._ZsyJHMBWdHEs1DYSes82KwP2ecjhE3PWzkwfPu wzkKScE5QrWhb2x8iaqcteRgdehEaQrUY2UrqZTUW8flhxfMpYlDXOWodWwe GGg1n3zKARP0hD8wrgN.lve6xHIU3lMIOokOE6WZ1KXjL0JrkLmLQOKqGgfj NI6Ps6OpCHSwJa2tJJmhHXITq1B0_.F1BPDAT3U8gJIaV3MBk4yIJKp2UTPJ mnRewzhRKbrxFIjBNi.Q5FcTtuyZGbla1hCbSElijNFQSxxTujeiqxxz5ack 2ZJouoiP9C1AXg6sOe.4GjM760syxpRY0czoqKKZREqltVY3v8RchHyKHdxX Qs_xuObFlXTeW4RTMO3tTOOHPXOcf20hMJ6RLmr7ibAej78OU2q6nKhewOJA cU.qQYHtNd1wHUEekIuKWWXZdd47w8bAaZ2SgDcBVowMMqhYfdXjozBZDVyU LDyqVbFUwoXjV.s.AaYt9L9qrHsLB5ESvTkkdY95cjwRoDTvtqqhDI7Zk0eo AawanpVDIwcS1Pe5RMlIZlti6xpLOgL0qN1dtIKvS2B24491.eZjsWcgC8az C4ykH2K0n0ZTTfyXfNBvoguIrZ90PmZWV19LJ3QWGk4MWA7esg7QRIEUW4.0 FtFWSQDfFYsxSfP0plmOyNCHvgwyojXxzajA6COINgj7awdfZOFBrpb4QcTq Bbglp3mYX Received: from [68.126.185.173] by web181001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 10:13:00 PST SGVyZSBpcyBhIHBhcnRpYWxseSBjb21wbGV0ZWQgJzY1IFRpZ2VyIGZvciAkMjBLIG9uIGNyYWlnc2xpc3QuIMKgTG9jYXRlZCBpbiBGTCBhbmQgY29tZXMgd2l0aCByb3Rpc3NlcmllIGFuZCBhIEFscGluZSBwYXJ0cyBjYXIuIMKgwqAKCk9yaWdpbmFsIGxpc3Rpbmc6IMKgaHR0cDovL3BlbnNhY29sYS5jcmFpZ3NsaXN0Lm9yZy9jdG8vNDIyOTU3OTMzOC5odG1sCgpCZXR0ZXIgcGljdHVyZXM6wqBodHRwOi8vYnJpbmdhdHJhaWxlci5jb20vMjAxNC8wMS8xMy9iYXQtZXhjbHVzaXZlLTE5NjUtc3VuYmVhbS0BMAEBAQE- References: <1389632304.58154.YahooMailNeo@web162701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 10:13:00 -0800 (PST) From: Randall Antosiak Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Project Tiger for sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Here is a partially completed '65 Tiger for $20K on craigslist. Located in FL and comes with rotisserie and a Alpine parts car. Original listing: http://pensacola.craigslist.org/cto/4229579338.html Better pictures: http://bringatrailer.com/2014/01/13/bat-exclusive-1965-sunbeam-tige r-project-with-spare-alpine/ _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 14 21:13:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37324040E for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 21:13:00 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d02.mx.aol.com (omr-d02.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.194]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D1D440522 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 12:12:46 -0700 (MST) Received: from mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com [172.26.50.176]) by omr-d02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7E379701B6F98 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 14:10:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from core-msd005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.234.17]) by mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5261938000087 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 14:10:08 -0500 (EST) From: BEAU2EVE@aol.com Full-name: BEAU2EVE Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 14:10:08 -0500 (EST) To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1389726608; bh=keEEbgJhb8+YeZtLL6QuyaBxY42ZNvMbHctDn+aX4ag=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OfAOUstONNm0iea7Q9B9jEwF5T8BXIbzmfxK0Gg7l3VWMYQpBV8Us6wT7x3SIO6dN pUrXB+vDg+dtK6toVGxQbKmACMIleE1TDRPSFX0wOc12nLEmbEWlNR05WEsVKZa5+/ 73hTJGn5TI41T9kfJobNcRZUpzsrsRCQv3Wtu+Vw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a32b052d58b901a21 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11 Yellow Tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Never seen this car on the road or at shows. I live in Naple's, and there's a lot of them ( car shows) around here. Beau In a message dated 1/11/2014 4:09:41 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tigers-request@autox.team.net writes: Send Tigers mailing list submissions to tigers@autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to tigers-request@autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at tigers-owner@autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Yellow Tiger on eBay (Tod Brown) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 13:36:55 -0500 From: Tod Brown To: tigers@autox.team.net, 'Dexter Polistock' Subject: [Tigers] Yellow Tiger on eBay Did anyone else see the yellow Tiger on eBay? It looks well done and very nice but, on closer inspection, it raises some questions. First impression is that it's a MkIA with the square corner hood and doors as well as the vinyl boot cover. But then the owner mentions that it has a T10 and the Serial No. is B3473215, which would make it a MkI. But if it has a T10, it should be a really early MkI, not near the end of the run as indicated by the Serial No. To add to the confusion, there are no under-dash vents, but it has the later type of heater control and the JAL tag does not look kosher. So what's the story? For the $55,000 asking price, there shouldn't be anyquestions and it ought to have a TAC number, IMHO. The car is supposedly in Naples, FL. Anybody know it? Tod B382002384RLXFE TAC#864 Original Owner ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Tigers mailing list Tigers@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers End of Tigers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 11 ************************************* _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 15 03:32:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24F1542F24 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 03:32:03 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41FF542EFA for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2014 17:07:37 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id E0311n0060b6N64AF04dxU; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 00:04:37 +0000 Received: from sz0064.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id E04n1n00L2xZMJ48P04n49; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 00:04:47 +0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 00:04:47 +0000 (UTC) From: Gary Winblad To: rfraser@bluefrog.com s=q20121106; t=1389744277; bh=rtfRG2bfmGZAVk0OcCLdUzixqCFugG3P4VMnohB4sa4=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=C4mkwOVjFXFYY4VfBl4gSbTnREehHllkS0W/XxN4zr9ZwZOhg6zA7IIWKKGBtWotu GSuF4v5GhSGLvCMMTinSXW0DCmPmyyDVUMH+YQ9/ttxX3vdz8adg+B+Z9XcdmRBde1 c7YnN5+e2y6Hfo05Wq+AHPnfw5EkDcmFKDfHEozUPt4cm0m0XPrt0X/S5u4uOY6vl4 9kxSsdhccZf2FKyqxjX4bBlmVu7BiBUx1rhPBH71StY+cq9Wxi4Ko+5VmyqNdqsXHJ 3sO/AWxPB//bWOn6UEfEQofkNePW95Y6dW+Z7fQHhstmkU3t2CDaM0D+QG9zqeJkVa ha+2C+6Iiw0Iw== Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Original Tiger Engine Study Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Ron, My B9470622 is L2KA.. and original 260. I think I gave you some info, what else do you want? Thanks, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Ron Fraser To: tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 01:16:18 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Original Tiger Engine Study To All (I sent this earlier today but it did not show up - 2nd attempt) My annual request for engine information. I'm looking at Original Tiger engines from a Ford casting and date code point of view. My goal is to add to Tiger knowledge. So if you have an original Tiger engine or if you know anyone who does; contact me. I have a study sheet that I will send you. I'm looking for more information on all the Tiger Engine Groups. I have no information for the 1st group of engines - T15KL - possibly only 9 were made. I believe these engines were only used in the AF Tigers and some of them were changed by Rootes to 289 engines; I'm interested in those 289 engines too. My hope is there is still one T15KL engine still around somewhere. I have little information on these engine groups: E7KL, G13KL, L2KA, K22KA, T12KA, S6KA and the March build of the B19KC - approximately B19KC 5570 - 6000. It would be nice to determine engine tag numbers for the March and Oct build of the B19KC engine group. Somewhere between the F21KA and B19KC engine groups; Ford cast a special 260 specification intake manifold for the Tiger - C5OE-9425D. The only casting date I have for this manifold is 5A28 = Jan 28,1965. I do list one on the 26th but I believe that is a misread which is very easy to do with any of these numbers. I just received a 260 block casting date of 5J29 - Sept 29, 1965. A bit of a surprise because I thought the last 260 block castings were in July 1965. The search for knowledge continues Thanks Ron Fraser _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 16 03:18:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4F7A403DD for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 03:18:31 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout01.eigbox.net (bosmailout01.eigbox.net [66.96.185.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C9B8403BB for ; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 14:43:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from bosmailscan22.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.22]) by bosmailout01.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1W3YCr-0006Dg-6H for tigers@autox.team.net; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 16:41:01 -0500 Received: from bosimpout04.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.4]) by bosmailscan22.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1W3YCq-0007vT-La for tigers@autox.team.net; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 16:41:00 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp11.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.11]) by bosimpout04.eigbox.net with NO UCE id EMgz1n0070EKspE01MgzrR; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 16:41:01 -0500 a=SHyvVz8TQuewofNHp6ZJtQ==:17 a=OPgJcfM40kIA:10 a=n0KVGEqHWhAA:10 a=kEh8VdYBrxAA:10 a=7cSlj-FvRxEA:10 a=Q9fys5e9bTEA:10 a=Or_tTDS8AAAA:8 a=wl8uxjteszcA:10 a=A7qLukH9wMXQNehHWYAA:9 a=PUjeQqilurYA:10 a=5Dw2ls4t9L8A:10 a=Wg3YpXWpGIwA:10 a=anyYG9rjTBM1sAjEBQ8Cew==:117 Received: from [67.202.159.250] (port=2619 helo=[192.168.1.104]) by bosauthsmtp11.eigbox.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim) id 1W3YCp-0002Rb-10 for tigers@autox.team.net; Wed, 15 Jan 2014 16:40:59 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 13:40:50 -0800 From: Larry Mayfield Organization: Mayfield Motorsport User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tach Question... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The tach has bee uninstalled in m,y tiger for a very long time and memory has dimmed..the white wire that provides the pick up signal needs to loop though the little hoop on the back of the tach..how many times? I keep wanting to say one loop, but maybe it is more? ready to install once I have that info... many thanks up front here.. larry -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 16 17:07:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C27742A51 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:07:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f171.google.com (mail-ig0-f171.google.com [209.85.213.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A958403F3 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 07:13:24 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ig0-f171.google.com with SMTP id uy17so11706104igb.4 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 06:10:32 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to:references :in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date :content-type:mime-version; bh=mu83CN57rFicF/qn/coDUlce30mILUQbqD7otkVKm8I=; b=qGtszYtbzfUMkrzEZKllPjmvFbBYtH0CBi0bdBdTBzI+6haGhNTqnKecl+Y3nMqaq1 j10PLPYT1NOKJNdOcFjWacQI8hvdCtEn+2ezG7QE02fqSXkzod+G+n0iFXL97BMW1QlT SlQ7PjHHsTsaCqAKXRo3A+j8yY8jbQdwIuVWcYpaeGy/1cGiaTELT8S5jLZnzbp9pwHY SX6jnzG3F9gBsrF5FpqIxs+pQW09Za8s7r6VBs7kPZB/fNbDnBkjhdjxpm20qg0T4OrT IM2bQmZNosUa8OjG9qfCGT/6I17ld6r45fxMOYkySx/mGgfKLLQUf/MXnBdXB6nFNGTX 2J3w== kq4mr9735325igb.40.1389881432430; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 06:10:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from 172.29.196.187 (bda-74-82-80-176.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.176]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id u1sm34817013ige.1.2014.01.16.06.10.31 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 16 Jan 2014 06:10:31 -0800 (PST) References: <52D70062.8070100@mayfco.com> Sensitivity: Normal To: drmayf@mayfco.com,"tigers@autox.team.net" From: jay.laifman@gmail.com Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 14:10:29 +0000 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tach Question... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net On my '67 Alpine, that we got with 60k miles on it had one loop. That's all I can say for sure. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Larry Mayfield To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Tach Question... The tach has bee uninstalled in m,y tiger for a very long time and memory has dimmed..the white wire that provides the pick up signal needs to loop though the little hoop on the back of the tach..how many times? I keep wanting to say one loop, but maybe it is more? ready to install once I have that info... many thanks up front here.. larry -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 16 17:36:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94EF640535 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:36:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo202.cox.net (eastrmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.217]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B3BD403EE for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 07:49:24 -0700 (MST) Received: from eastrmimpo209 ([68.230.241.224]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20140116144637.OML3871.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo209> for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 09:46:37 -0500 Received: from eastrmwml106 ([172.18.18.217]) by eastrmimpo209 with cox id Eemc1n00m4h0NJL01emdwQ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 09:46:37 -0500 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:17 a=NKtjOhSpB4wA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=UyHOC7Gu_PIA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=5VCLCybHCgcA:10 a=Or_tTDS8AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=GK9JbN9mouWMKEgLEtoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=7F_hI6ufVzMA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 204.61.12.74 by webmail.east.cox.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 9:46:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 9:46:37 -0500 From: To: drmayf@mayfco.com, "tigers@autox.team.net" Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tach Question... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Should only be just once, Larry. Andy Walker ---- Larry Mayfield wrote: > The tach has bee uninstalled in m,y tiger for a very long time and > memory has dimmed..the white wire that provides the pick up signal needs > to loop though the little hoop on the back of the tach..how many times? > I keep wanting to say one loop, but maybe it is more? > > ready to install once I have that info... > > many thanks up front here.. > > > larry > > -- > ______________________________ > drmayf > Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. > 204.913 mph flying mile > 210.779 mph exit speed > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/awtiger@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 16 18:11:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2065B40546 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:11:12 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout12.eigbox.net (bosmailout12.eigbox.net [66.96.186.12]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0001403F3 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 08:12:35 -0700 (MST) Received: from bosmailscan10.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.10]) by bosmailout12.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1W3oZe-0003Gm-7e for tigers@autox.team.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:09:38 -0500 Received: from bosimpout03.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.3]) by bosmailscan10.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1W3oZe-0006DJ-Eh; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:09:38 -0500 Received: from bosauthsmtp19.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.19]) by bosimpout03.eigbox.net with NO UCE id Ef9N1n00D0QhFXN01f9Nr1; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:09:22 -0500 a=SHyvVz8TQuewofNHp6ZJtQ==:17 a=OPgJcfM40kIA:10 a=NKtjOhSpB4wA:10 a=kEh8VdYBrxAA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Or_tTDS8AAAA:8 a=5VCLCybHCgcA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=q4OV9j67Mbm8WTbMJUMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=7F_hI6ufVzMA:10 a=9UqFsMnAB6EOkiq4MrOclQ==:117 Received: from [67.202.159.250] (port=61429 helo=Mayfco) by bosauthsmtp19.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1W3oZO-0001x9-8U; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:09:22 -0500 From: "Larry Mayfield" To: , References: <52D70062.8070100@mayfco.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 07:08:22 -0800 Thread-Index: AQDWgiLRCxOlz7/MC+cFzfMgMfCSnpx4k7kQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tach Question... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Ok, everyone, I have the tach installed now... one of the replies mentioned that the wire has two ways that it can be installed: one way the current goes one direction, opposite if the loop is flipped over. So now I have a 99% chance of being wrong, lol...... We'll see in a few days or more.... Mayf _________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 1:41 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Tach Question... The tach has bee uninstalled in m,y tiger for a very long time and memory has dimmed..the white wire that provides the pick up signal needs to loop though the little hoop on the back of the tach..how many times? I keep wanting to say one loop, but maybe it is more? ready to install once I have that info... many thanks up front here.. larry -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/drmayf@mayfco.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 16 18:40:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E91142761 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:40:46 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2924040D for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 08:27:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from omta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by qmta13.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id EeuW1n0051HpZEsADfQQ11; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 15:24:24 +0000 Received: from sz0064.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.138]) by omta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id EfQQ1n0072yr1eL8afQQSf; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 15:24:24 +0000 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 15:24:23 +0000 (UTC) From: Gary Winblad To: drmayf@mayfco.com s=q20121106; t=1389885864; bh=LuD+XW9rHuWb/5YT08Xt+OuFnvKewYxnXfAgvqz4Atk=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=mdLpPyZFd7PNbRMsmXG6KUTRsMni14FzvpBi7vPSuwiqclQt2uwgPJcBO5bBg6+1A N63zNG4yBYnahBt65STsH65Qp6gQiVXlBhiKEBCV34V8z7oDnN4c4rYjm1faOsNvFh am+r5ZZlomTLkr6YpAfwoJROUTJrv58PSaEC/TD37Fn6yrdtQz2TXmZyHCI4rurdCs kln3hppaj5ffAJ0y7/wc374/yuwWOCoqoreaK4n8U13cEK/bwffmAoF20FU9RKy9Hk U/rPFkVHkLrNBNga4hNW+qjGfBWKwG/hbECwC2AtWlWejnKEp799rNLu84x7QYn+Ot O7hpvIiM4D9Ow== Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tach Question... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Larry, One loop, though more gives more sensitivity if you have some kind of electronic ignition. There should be a plastic(nylon?) piece that just has room for one loop, and a metal bracket over that. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Mayfield To: tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Wed, 15 Jan 2014 21:40:50 -0000 (UTC) Subject: [Tigers] Tach Question... The tach has bee uninstalled in m,y tiger for a very long time and memory has dimmed..the white wire that provides the pick up signal needs to loop though the little hoop on the back of the tach..how many times? I keep wanting to say one loop, but maybe it is more? ready to install once I have that info... many thanks up front here.. larry _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 16 18:55:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 186A44053A for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:55:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8112F403F2 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 09:13:51 -0700 (MST) Received: from pps.filterd (omta003.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s0GGA9sZ001349 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 08:11:03 -0800 Received: by dm0219.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a206) id dm0219.52cf75fe.b523a; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 08:11:01 -0800 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.150.69]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:10:55 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: , Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 11:10:47 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac8SpIHhdh/AxhpPT2+TWLKp1iSsaAAMGYYg engine=2.50.10432:5.11.87,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-01-16_06:2014-01-15,2014-01-16,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1305240000 definitions=main-1401160090 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tach Question... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Larry I believe the original white wire has a plastic block with either 2 or 3 loops. The metal hoop then hold the plastic block to the Tach. I also believe I read somewhere that the more loops you put around the metal hoop the better the tach will read. I'm not sure if Theo did a write up on this but he is the guy to know. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 4:41 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Tach Question... The tach has bee uninstalled in m,y tiger for a very long time and memory has dimmed..the white wire that provides the pick up signal needs to loop though the little hoop on the back of the tach..how many times? I keep wanting to say one loop, but maybe it is more? ready to install once I have that info... many thanks up front here.. larry -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jan 16 19:04:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625EB40537 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:04:29 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.centurylink.net (mail.centurylink.net [205.219.233.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53622403F2 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 09:58:26 -0700 (MST) c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1389890069; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=V3jscFtZmPj6nEn+PfUQkKXKjQM=; b=KTFKD87YsAQsM42gGNDM4KnZz1/rSpVF2yubOtEYpC966ouSl3h6fsBpgBesw9Ml BzAn8kSer/o2vlzO55ey3IcyMQZ1zN1/eBVkUmxbiF+YlKUv6q0m5Z4xMMEOE/di; X_CMAE_Category: , , a=vKy9suKpuEfbRrhSZpmerQ==:17 a=NKtjOhSpB4wA:10 a=1poGYrevpj8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=5VCLCybHCgcA:10 a=8A7brI4kjU8C6ETGAX3PRdgeao0=:19 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=zZaIPv3GbDMB9qq_HgcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=vKy9suKpuEfbRrhSZpmerQ==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp02.agate.dfw.synacor.com smtp.mail=wseay@embarqmail.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp02.agate.dfw.synacor.com header.from=wseay@embarqmail.com; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp02.agate.dfw.synacor.com smtp.user=wseay@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.agate.dfw.synacor.com: 71.48.132.197 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of embarqmail.com) Received: from [71.48.132.197] ([71.48.132.197:16705] helo=xpseay) by mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.1.37854 r(Momo-dev:3.5.1.0)) with ESMTPA id 74/EA-21467-51A08D25; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 11:34:29 -0500 From: "Will Seay" To: , References: <52D70062.8070100@mayfco.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 11:34:23 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac8SpH9/yH2f74yEQN6KXNqFMAT39QANEdoA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tach Question... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net One loop Will Seay_____________ wseay@embarqmail.com "I think not therefore I am not" (anon) -----Original Message----- From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 4:41 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Tach Question... The tach has bee uninstalled in m,y tiger for a very long time and memory has dimmed..the white wire that provides the pick up signal needs to loop though the little hoop on the back of the tach..how many times? I keep wanting to say one loop, but maybe it is more? ready to install once I have that info... many thanks up front here.. larry -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/wseay@embarqmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 17 00:05:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D86E4285B for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 00:05:16 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cmta2.telus.net (cmta2.telus.net [209.171.16.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F0C4051D for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:22:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.75] ([209.89.36.167]) by cmta2.telus.net with TELUS id EnKS1n00m3cNJ9M01nKTni; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:19:27 -0700 a=GqxcHtfpyleJzmv+/P79aQ==:17 a=kzxNhSPmafwA:10 a=UIdm24C_LI4A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Qm2X8ul6AAAA:8 a=_MFTgXnCIqUA:10 a=bGppMy33_BxydRTd33cA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=GqxcHtfpyleJzmv+/P79aQ==:117 From: Pointers Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:19:26 -0700 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Two Tigers in this years Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net When is the last time there was a Tiger at that auction? There was one auctioned when I was there in 1996, but I don't think there's been one since, though I could be mistaken. Not sure why; always wondered; maybe they became Alger-wary? Hence both specimens have been TAC'd: Lot 803 - red, from Florida. Lot 1164 - yellow. With some funky, err..."custom" touches: - door map pockets (where are the side window wind up levers)? - name plate on hood (was there ever such)? - rear hood hold-downs (heh)? - no side chrome - grill absent; repl w/driving lights Anyhow, if the vendors are listers, I wish you success on the block. Will watch with interest. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 17 01:56:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4A042798 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 01:56:21 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f173.google.com (mail-ie0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF9740557 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:11:09 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id e14so4641924iej.18 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:08:15 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ymHl0as8NmzMfDj+nl+uRhy2a/E8bP0hxBxjkw2+Bqg=; b=byLVpBHleunCKfkyLq5EDa05cQKb7dZtm2lO8B9vfrL6QLzUIcaKmXX9Wenz9qTzCi knN1EZ7CeRri3huhG22QfTFqjgrhJ1LUhADSjaiGPVQpNxGZqNqyUaOBUqcOi/WsEQfV RSKSNOHntLg+L25+wqNBAGbr4K4yhyFBc2fMOw6UXSnNugxy9pv45Y+p5jMPH0wEGG5d vp3G2bBQYgt/5H3Qfls+TzSXe9YxPKEO4QL2MlsnbH1IIAo/5RulBXsUgOZlAm4gzzOT knFTU3txegTITc9ahwI3bY+obu6f/b67d4eluB4rWrB3KlotKOyMQWmu0wInZstQaNKq eksA== nm8mr140085igb.10.1389920895195; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:08:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.146.198 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:08:15 -0800 (PST) References: <52D70062.8070100@mayfco.com> <001301cf12cc$d11a3de0$734eb9a0$@mayfco.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:08:15 -0800 From: Jay Laifman To: Larry Mayfield Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tach Question... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Ha! 99%. It is my very vague recollection that the plastic piece that held the loop had an edge that would fit into a slot in the tach so that it would fit only one way. But, I guess you might be saying you relooped the wire through that plastic piece. On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Larry Mayfield wrote: > Ok, everyone, I have the tach installed now... one of the replies > mentioned > that the wire has two ways that it can be installed: one way the current > goes one direction, opposite if the loop is flipped over. So now I have a > 99% chance of being wrong, lol...... > > We'll see in a few days or more.... > > Mayf > > > _________________________ > drmayf > Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. > 204.913 mph flying mile > 210.779 mph exit speed > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 1:41 PM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Tach Question... > > The tach has bee uninstalled in m,y tiger for a very long time and memory > has dimmed..the white wire that provides the pick up signal needs to loop > though the little hoop on the back of the tach..how many times? > I keep wanting to say one loop, but maybe it is more? > > ready to install once I have that info... > > many thanks up front here.. > > > larry > > -- > ______________________________ > drmayf > Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. > 204.913 mph flying mile > 210.779 mph exit speed > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/drmayf@mayfco.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 17 02:14:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742E942820 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 02:14:07 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f170.google.com (mail-ig0-f170.google.com [209.85.213.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B068B40548 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:13:18 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-ig0-f170.google.com with SMTP id m12so3156656iga.1 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:10:24 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=UQp2SE0si5U4UZNDtQszlDtthate0SrdfhT5ZNxEBf8=; b=io43DFNnlCg3N4fK2ekMiduhWnI5PYlzEVbMbHmqe9MKyRcJgHhn3IdG/8hD1wkJq9 7fVgSxbps6UDvxlmixeKT6l68JDRs84RV2wIin8CSrWYVKccC6sCXfhldGhe/uqcDLrR ZYxqesfHfIR8Hw7XHK4a1J2NFQHC9UjRlxZx0eKhqHUSWe5aPU/Cp4OdsiR5DcMp2L6Q 0xBx74X6uS5KNqOev/Syx99yofE+zMbKB56agpVIzR2Q4Z/GDTmG3t1v3GFelYXF+HWN PeS3SjHsEpapg/1iz0pBwfvQw8c66TwwiKIOiEGloDJxKX//UmYQzrWOU+KK/dcmDgHE jihg== Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:10:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.42.146.198 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:10:24 -0800 (PST) References: <52D70062.8070100@mayfco.com> <001301cf12cc$d11a3de0$734eb9a0$@mayfco.com> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 17:10:24 -0800 From: Jay Laifman To: Larry Mayfield Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tach Question... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net This shows a sketch of the back of the tack with the loop and its orientation. http://teae.org/sunbeam-tachometers/ On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:08 AM, Larry Mayfield wrote: > Ok, everyone, I have the tach installed now... one of the replies > mentioned > that the wire has two ways that it can be installed: one way the current > goes one direction, opposite if the loop is flipped over. So now I have a > 99% chance of being wrong, lol...... > > We'll see in a few days or more.... > > Mayf > > > _________________________ > drmayf > Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. > 204.913 mph flying mile > 210.779 mph exit speed > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 1:41 PM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Tach Question... > > The tach has bee uninstalled in m,y tiger for a very long time and memory > has dimmed..the white wire that provides the pick up signal needs to loop > though the little hoop on the back of the tach..how many times? > I keep wanting to say one loop, but maybe it is more? > > ready to install once I have that info... > > many thanks up front here.. > > > larry > > -- > ______________________________ > drmayf > Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. > 204.913 mph flying mile > 210.779 mph exit speed > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/drmayf@mayfco.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 17 02:35:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74DBF42EF5 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 02:35:39 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92884040D for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:11:55 -0700 (MST) Received: from optiplex3301 ([unknown] [108.47.114.228]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MZI00AZ0WMWUJ10@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:08:57 -0600 (CST) From: "Thomas Witt" To: References: <8560C89BAAB648B38ECB91FD4508712E@ronpc1> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:08:59 -0800 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tach Question... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net This might help. Dinner on the table so I haven't had time to read them. http://www.tigersunited.com/techtips/th-ut/STOA.asp http://teae.org/sunbeam-tachometers/ ----- Original Message ----- From: " Ron Fraser" To: ; Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tach Question... > Larry > I believe the original white wire has a plastic block with either 2 > or 3 loops. The metal hoop then hold the plastic block to the Tach. > > I also believe I read somewhere that the more loops you put around > the metal hoop the better the tach will read. > I'm not sure if Theo did a write up on this but he is the guy to know. > > Ron Fraser > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 4:41 PM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Tach Question... > > > The tach has bee uninstalled in m,y tiger for a very long time and > memory has dimmed..the white wire that provides the pick up signal needs > to loop though the little hoop on the back of the tach..how many times? > I keep wanting to say one loop, but maybe it is more? > > ready to install once I have that info... > > many thanks up front here.. > > > larry > > -- > ______________________________ > drmayf > Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. > 204.913 mph flying mile > 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 17 02:54:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1CB42B12 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 02:54:01 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E61D740548 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 19:14:22 -0700 (MST) Received: from optiplex3301 ([unknown] [108.47.114.228]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MZI007K7WQZCAH0@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 20:11:24 -0600 (CST) From: "Thomas Witt" To: References: <8560C89BAAB648B38ECB91FD4508712E@ronpc1> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 18:11:26 -0800 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tach Question... (more) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net If you Google "Tiger tach loop" there is a lot of information. Now I'm really late for dinner... bye. ----- Original Message ----- From: " Ron Fraser" To: ; Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 8:10 AM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tach Question... > Larry > I believe the original white wire has a plastic block with either 2 > or 3 loops. The metal hoop then hold the plastic block to the Tach. > > I also believe I read somewhere that the more loops you put around > the metal hoop the better the tach will read. > I'm not sure if Theo did a write up on this but he is the guy to know. > > Ron Fraser > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2014 4:41 PM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Tach Question... > > > The tach has bee uninstalled in m,y tiger for a very long time and > memory has dimmed..the white wire that provides the pick up signal needs > to loop though the little hoop on the back of the tach..how many times? > I keep wanting to say one loop, but maybe it is more? > > ready to install once I have that info... > > many thanks up front here.. > > > larry > > -- > ______________________________ > drmayf > Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. > 204.913 mph flying mile > 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend@verizon.net > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3681/7008 - Release Date: 01/16/14 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 17 04:42:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038E242982 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 04:42:38 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cmta19.telus.net (cmta19.telus.net [209.171.16.92]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6072F40537 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:15:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from [192.168.1.75] ([209.89.36.167]) by cmta19.telus.net with TELUS id EsC81n00i3cNJ9M01sC9DB; Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:12:09 -0700 a=GqxcHtfpyleJzmv+/P79aQ==:17 a=lyikBBP9zD0A:10 a=UIdm24C_LI4A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Qm2X8ul6AAAA:8 a=-5jeCVyq9tUA:10 a=gsMG1RWclW8FoBuPSnIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SZW4lLvtemsA:10 a=GqxcHtfpyleJzmv+/P79aQ==:117 References: <4DF5A4FD-52DF-4495-93A1-F48760B6F2E0@telusplanet.net> From: Pointers Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:12:09 -0700 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Two Tigers in this years Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sold: $60K > On Jan 16, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Pointers wrote: > > When is the last time there was a Tiger at that auction? There was one auctioned when I was there in 1996, but I don't think there's been one since, though I could be mistaken. Not sure why; always wondered; maybe they became Alger-wary? Hence both specimens have been TAC'd: > Lot 803 - red, from Florida. > Lot 1164 - yellow. With some funky, err..."custom" touches: > - door map pockets (where are the side window wind up levers)? > - name plate on hood (was there ever such)? > - rear hood hold-downs (heh)? > - no side chrome > - grill absent; repl w/driving lights > > Anyhow, if the vendors are listers, I wish you success on the block. Will watch with interest. > > Gary up in the great white north. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 17 10:01:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BBDC42F0C for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 10:01:37 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f47.google.com (mail-oa0-f47.google.com [209.85.219.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14703429A2 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 06:03:20 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-oa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id m1so3268353oag.34 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 05:00:24 -0800 (PST) s=20120113; h=references:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:cc:from:subject:date:to; bh=exlxwQlzseO2DqSdpOjjS4EDA0Hw0Jgpy3T7VlEiZbQ=; b=ypXmo3XFYdHRva2rc/HlqXCXudraL5UaL8b+bAXrI08S7UcBNNOKHMtuuLUK0yGNqj iqChoyt5tWrYAiCBBcYUTdqBa80DE4L7JvtxSrRDWDndtv4thi1hCSmgKS26ntxNrFZk 0YvP/BiGULaPKzRvXjoXMYUQqKSVNxXRMuzA4jZ5skrx4R3a2ZZBPxpLFoxyzmkBJCjc nIcT01oD6VY0j7NWDl60DNHPwHXEoUTvVVTf75CenKyb6hdyCl57dxJSybqGWsxwgJEa LqIUwK6S75xXPvK0sIF+KV7ODkJmJ7h8DAUDBnu3RE6BGuo0FpjZmIvQgnfx5dBBInMZ PtLQ== jo10mr1338993oeb.71.1389963624218; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 05:00:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.180.199.92] (198.sub-70-215-192.myvzw.com. [70.215.192.198]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id xs17sm15577499oeb.1.2014.01.17.05.00.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 17 Jan 2014 05:00:23 -0800 (PST) References: <4DF5A4FD-52DF-4495-93A1-F48760B6F2E0@telusplanet.net> <6BE17F0D-50CB-4AE0-9D03-1D931EF3AD02@telusplanet.net> From: Cullen1972 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 07:00:23 -0600 To: Pointers Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Two Tigers in this years Barrett-Jackson Scottsdale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The red car or the custom yellow one? Cullen Sent from my iPhone. > On Jan 16, 2014, at 10:12 PM, Pointers wrote: > > Sold: $60K > >> On Jan 16, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Pointers wrote: >> >> When is the last time there was a Tiger at that auction? There was one > auctioned when I was there in 1996, but I don't think there's been one since, > though I could be mistaken. Not sure why; always wondered; maybe they became > Alger-wary? Hence both specimens have been TAC'd: >> Lot 803 - red, from Florida. >> Lot 1164 - yellow. With some funky, err..."custom" touches: >> - door map pockets (where are the side window wind up levers)? >> - name plate on hood (was there ever such)? >> - rear hood hold-downs (heh)? >> - no side chrome >> - grill absent; repl w/driving lights >> >> Anyhow, if the vendors are listers, I wish you success on the block. Will > watch with interest. >> >> Gary up in the great white north. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmccann1972@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jan 17 17:13:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from 50-198-190-17-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA03242820 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 17:13:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from db8outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (mail-db8lp0184.outbound.messaging.microsoft.com [213.199.154.184]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AFD542713 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 09:43:40 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail68-db8-R.bigfish.com (10.174.8.246) by DB8EHSOBE032.bigfish.com (10.174.4.95) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.22; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 16:40:41 +0000 Received: from mail68-db8 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail68-db8-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D2C2C0285; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 16:40:41 +0000 (UTC) H:edgetransport.garmin.com; RD:none; EFVD:NLI Received-SPF: pass (mail68-db8: domain of dynastream.com designates 204.77.163.11 as permitted sender) client-ip=204.77.163.11; envelope-from=Theo.Smit@dynastream.com; helo=edgetransport.garmin.com ;t.garmin.com ; Received: from mail68-db8 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail68-db8 (MessageSwitch) id 1389976838902621_13227; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 16:40:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from DB8EHSMHS022.bigfish.com (unknown [10.174.8.237]) by mail68-db8.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7BF2B4004E; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 16:40:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from edgetransport.garmin.com (204.77.163.11) by DB8EHSMHS022.bigfish.com (10.174.4.32) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.16.227.3; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 16:40:38 +0000 Received: from OLAWPA-EXHT06.ad.garmin.com (10.2.0.28) by edgetransport.garmin.com (192.168.18.223) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.174.1; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 10:40:04 -0600 Received: from OLAWPA-EXMB05.ad.garmin.com ([169.254.6.68]) by olawpa-exht06.ad.garmin.com ([10.2.0.28]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 10:40:36 -0600 From: "Smit, Theo" To: Jay Laifman , Larry Mayfield Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Tach Question... Thread-Index: AQDWgiLRYQZPiEX5t0qqPoHa+DbUyZx4k7kQgAENyYCAAI8kAA== Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 16:40:35 +0000 References: <52D70062.8070100@mayfco.com> <001301cf12cc$d11a3de0$734eb9a0$@mayfco.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.3.9.131030 x-originating-ip: [10.5.143.129] Content-ID: <6645CA5C8768BC43A73392B4742689FA@garmin.com> Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tach Question... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The TEAE article shows the wrong side of the loop going through the block if done that way, there isn9t really a loop. This sketch on my website depicts the OEM wiring. The wire goes through the block twice, to make one loop. http://members.shaw.ca/tsmit/tachmod/tachmod3.html#stu The OEM tach circuit (with points) may have been somewhat insensitive to the loop orientation - it probably depends on the dwell. With my tach module the circuit is definitely sensitive to the loop orientation (and it has to be as shown in the sketch), but it works with Pertronix and other points-replacement devices as well as stock points. The OEM tach circuit doesn9t handle the extended dwell time that you get when you go to a transistor-switched ignition. Cheers, Theo On 1/16/2014, 6:08 PM, "Jay Laifman" wrote: >Ha! 99%. It is my very vague recollection that the plastic piece that >held the loop had an edge that would fit into a slot in the tach so that >it >would fit only one way. > >But, I guess you might be saying you relooped the wire through that >plastic >piece. > ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete the message. 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The yellow mess is still available. > On Jan 17, 2014, at 10:56 AM, "Cullen1972" wrote: > > The red car or the custom yellow one? > > Cullen > > Sent from my iPhone. > >> On Jan 16, 2014, at 10:12 PM, Pointers wrote: >> >> Sold: $60K >> >>> On Jan 16, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Pointers wrote: >>> >>> When is the last time there was a Tiger at that auction? There was one >> auctioned when I was there in 1996, but I don't think there's been one > since, >> though I could be mistaken. Not sure why; always wondered; maybe they > became >> Alger-wary? Hence both specimens have been TAC'd: >>> Lot 803 - red, from Florida. >>> Lot 1164 - yellow. With some funky, err..."custom" touches: >>> - door map pockets (where are the side window wind up levers)? >>> - name plate on hood (was there ever such)? >>> - rear hood hold-downs (heh)? >>> - no side chrome >>> - grill absent; repl w/driving lights >>> >>> Anyhow, if the vendors are listers, I wish you success on the block. 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