From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 19 21:16:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573CC2584AF6 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 21:16:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4785425848B9 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 21:13:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 826A52C0086 for ; Sat, 19 Jul 2014 21:13:32 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 21:13:29 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: Tigers Subject: [Tigers] Team.Net Archives Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Finally some progress this weekend! Got the links in the postfix imap procmail mharc namazu cron chain all straightened out. Don't worry if you don't understand that part, just know that the messages to the Team.Net lists are now getting added to the archives on an hourly basis once again. Next on the list is getting all the missing months added. But for now, time for a cold one. mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 20 12:06:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D739425848D5 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 12:06:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from BLU004-OMC3S36.hotmail.com (blu004-omc3s36.hotmail.com [65.55.116.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FCD25807AA for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 12:05:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU169-W79 ([65.55.116.72]) by BLU004-OMC3S36.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Sun, 20 Jul 2014 11:05:36 -0700 From: Brent Edinger To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 11:05:36 -0700 FILETIME=[3531AB60:01CFA445] Subject: [Tigers] Tom Pattons record lap Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Anybody know if there is any video footage of the GT-2 SCCA race? Brent _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 20 18:24:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D4D2584AE7 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:24:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from BAY004-OMC3S14.hotmail.com (bay004-omc3s14.hotmail.com [65.54.190.152]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99904258443B for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:24:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY179-W12 ([65.54.190.188]) by BAY004-OMC3S14.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:25:05 -0700 From: DAVID GREEN To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 18:25:04 -0600 References: FILETIME=[3826B560:01CFA47A] Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 166 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mark, A BIG THANKS for your efforts!!! Dave Green & "Miss Kitty" (recently TAC'ed) > From: tigers-request@autox.team.net > Subject: Tigers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 166 > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 12:00:03 -0600 > > Send Tigers mailing list submissions to > tigers@autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tigers-request@autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tigers-owner@autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Team.Net Archives (Mark J Bradakis) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 21:13:29 -0600 > From: Mark J Bradakis > To: Tigers > Subject: [Tigers] Team.Net Archives > Message-ID: <53CB33D9.2010503@bradakis.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > Finally some progress this weekend! Got the links in the postfix imap procmail mharc namazu cron chain > all straightened out. Don't worry if you don't understand that part, just know that the messages > to the Team.Net lists are now getting added to the archives on an hourly basis once again. > > Next on the list is getting all the missing months added. > > But for now, time for a cold one. > > mjb. > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Tigers mailing list > Tigers@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Tigers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 166 > ************************************** _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 20 21:44:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F28A2584B0E for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 21:44:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm39-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm39-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25874258075C for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 21:44:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm39.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jul 2014 03:44:49 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.224] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jul 2014 03:44:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1033.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 21 Jul 2014 03:44:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 25491 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jul 2014 03:44:49 -0000 s=s1024; t=1405914289; bh=P8Beg6pkIOqXakS7ykDZd1q1jDuuNTlU65EfeVZGH3g=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=F60qc2f4AAFYwgQH5mAov4Rr+qIFPxhQduB86AN6p/y9o6ETbAfS2mf2TwfJptIvk5htWeK1srnIvaLCXju9rZGzs0Quk4K+V/csdeXM2CNGYq1xVvZyysmK1psSxdUp9Nyks3d/Mm5Dvi2YLEZU+9RerBXnYivqoPNyyhXhb2Q= xxuiykRkYBrPZon7l1F1gb90.5sJLeiJ0IONeH.RLcP_cS9kYfU_tceAWlhI pQMg1SeVEwDdFZrMRyFP2zVZw_BcKRoxDHeMRaJbKaFPY5nQ2QBAaMWNfEVC TrC0Ah9xplWCOyPb9EQn3lfTDmRKWyonW9eh0t7NJut5yKMg8v7PNR.wlJ4X CQ_Xi.NDS_bg1_ERFijSgeB4R.u0SPGGsyi61JB6T.2PS7m9sx8E2YrPJP7f 1ileH1EyjRxTNxvYHGJmxVO88aBdbEwWoKYtWJcEPnnNSYAuJ5aYvK1FcRPY P3E4zl.g9PqNREgV9S3GdMuuen8X98KCzFNaTE8sr_SonvkOeRtO4HKgYPla YYlDCdhb.58KDO740uEviRj.WwPZGXLHaMkCuPRVapICjaK.FLvdxj2Ndht3 re7uAum3n999gQwHug1Ps0UN5y1fJ74I_MIV8jbinocFsZoLV2GDj6tV1AE8 W1xRYssPs11tHSWGPxESEwgQdqROAeum9UCaZfgrli6WGIMpKWK_31o955NK nGwnkMAOqQVTZ Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 20:44:48 PDT U2hlbGJ5LVBvd2VyZWQgVGlnZXIgTGVhZHMgdGhpcyBFdXJvIFJhbGx5IExpbmV1cCB8IFBldHJvbGljaW91cwoKU29tZSBvZiB5b3UgcmVtZW1iZXJzIHRoaXMgdmlkZW8gZnJvbSwgbWF5YmUsIHR3byBtb250aHMgYWdvLiBJIGZvdW5kIG91dCB0b25pZ2h0IHRoYXQgdGhlIFRpZ2VyIGlzIHRoZSBzYW1lIGNhciB0aGF0IG9uY2UgYmVsb25nZWQgdG8gYSBmcmllbmQgb2YgbWluZSBhbmQgQWwgSm9obnNvbnMgdGhhdCBJIGZpcnN0IHNhdyBhbmQgcGhvdG9ncmFwaGVkIDIyIG9yIG1vcmUgeWVhcnMgYWdvLCABMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 20:44:48 -0700 From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tiger video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Shelby-Powered Tiger Leads this Euro Rally Lineup | Petrolicious Some of you remembers this video from, maybe, two months ago. I found out tonight that the Tiger is the same car that once belonged to a friend of mine and Al Johnsons that I first saw and photographed 22 or more years ago, I just didn't recognize it from the video. From Rhode Island, it was shipped to South Africa to our friends brother, who apparently sold it to someone there, who brought it with them when they moved to California, where upon they sold it on eBay to the present owner in CT six years ago. Dr. Abrahams mentions that other than the different motor, this car is original. You'll notice that the shifter is a Hurst, and that most of the interior is black, but the carpeting is blue, both items that the car exhibited when our friend owned it and I photographed it years ago. Rande Bellman Shelby-Powered Tiger Leads this Euro Rally Lineup | Petr... As a kid growing up near Detroit, Mr. Hans Abrahams was surrounded by American muscle cars. His father, however, hailed from Britain and introduced young Hans ... View on www.petrolicious.com Preview by Yahoo _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 10:58:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A244A2584DB8 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 10:58:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 711C4258445A for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 10:56:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.44]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V3n31o0020x6nqcA74wUV6; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 16:56:28 +0000 Received: from [10.0.1.4] ([50.185.29.8]) by omta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id V4wS1o00d0AWPo28Y4wTFK; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 16:56:28 +0000 From: Rob Guerra Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 09:56:26 -0700 To: tigerlist 2 s=q20140121; t=1405961788; bh=argmGbIjnpRTxEbVLqH4SQtI4M2pnjeLue67b/zDMrY=; h=Received:Received:From:Content-Type:Subject:Message-Id:Date:To: Mime-Version; b=L0T0bnZ1H6NiFajr3xTFXpmpydbApnbPnx+kVW4Nad3q1tx5afgMkZ7SmZNeJ17l4 FYwZUaD//ha+MUol6k30A96vDRhjFHQuX92EOXl1MiUgebY2NkJgxeE9/lRa2s3eJR Ani/vN0P0VRua1Q0RtUo6pChbgQJci1wDHWyttJc3Szj4wMctQ7vtUNsYPNL9Bj90Z GSbIK3kwiwxFoILO8P5YaZf43yEYrG+IZjSJZGQ3KNxG3BDPJY4WQLf8W972Cub2A2 e9nKeB3ejaRKQ3eitKg9QIufbECsRkTUlZYR6S4PuwkK1L8f74RW3cbhBg7T/sJcxu OyjxBkBcT/JQA== Subject: [Tigers] email address for stark shelby Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net anyone have an email address for Stark Shelby? Please send it to me off the list thanks Rob tiger351w@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Jul 21 17:38:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4FCF2584C2D for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 17:38:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173025pub.verizon.net (vms173025pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9CB12580722 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 17:38:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ownerHP ([unknown] [98.117.211.220]) by vms173025.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N93006RC5OR56C0@vms173025.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 18:38:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "Clyde McLaughlin" To: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 19:38:53 -0400 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac+lO20+nIh8P76USoeDqX4BbmblPQ== Subject: [Tigers] waynesboro british car show Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net East coast listers, there is a good british car show in Waynesboro, Va, October, 3&4, sponsored by the Shenandoah british sports car club, Tigers featured 50th, this year, I have been before and it's a good show and banquet at a nice tree covered park..Not expensive. There have only been a couple sunbeams there when I have gone in past years, it would be good to show them we are out here, Clyde _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 07:51:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6286F25844A8 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 07:51:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm24-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.161]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E21B25803BC for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 07:51:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.196.81.171] by nm24.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jul 2014 13:51:31 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.207] by tm17.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jul 2014 13:51:31 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Jul 2014 13:51:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 36373 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jul 2014 13:51:31 -0000 s=s1024; t=1406037091; bh=8LT89rjwNbHAbuMCBok/WwhCHDSQKyThtunDqKfY+eg=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VNuGRzFv/WgpzPJpkpK2rOSyAfsItacNGzSpJqWAtthshIT/fMgm8hRZV5htZLHRUkRGPFPfRCQz+tXW/Fb8AvEEDDPDEgbK71aMum9AaeKjEcT09KJR2LC/G+s7KHrOqzcmhyENvUnv1teqaVeO1q6evnV+CIpoE/6UbE+4YVo= G88p04GHRGDyP6fnLyLMyEPeLlU4ICSnbpM.37nbLpggBWNqFvMW3Np.nhHk 4gqtNhhJiKX1MWTIEtI1MBxWU9JS_eWaJoPof7Yt9Nv8_AbbsGyhDBjnNVpB CuUtZTUa9lZJvLTcbwgczlL6rWXa2Gq.HnQ5Zjy_Qum.ZfUNakW3l9eu5aBD Hoi8K4O3sBL898lm0XM_amrNESH5YgwOfjZIxUPA5vfNVmHEDLtTwNstSzf6 QSYe4u7xXQZ0mty7MJT12LumVIhf4qj27FPPEqSX_Fi3_104FdON_EDA4dCZ 9.FnxhCEOv3pmWtunScUUd2uJJL1XrBuXIBdbT4RdFV5W3aGNkP6nR4AXCKS LeE2tOYOxkCqvkrpnphr2VAQzfQtNvftMmyT5UD5GQ7NJZxTdqUkJcVznpTT TX_sm5j85.2OBUq35vnS4LAppwiWh3wzV84CyyVuwudHk7bIysL7ws_32dg0 - Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162703.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 06:51:31 PDT SSBoYXZlIG9uZSBpc3N1ZSBlYWNoIHRvIG9mZmVyIG9mIHRoZSBTcG9ydHMgYW5kIEV4b3RpYyBDYXIgKEphbnVhcnkgMjAxNCBBbmR5IFJvb25leSBpc3N1ZSkgYW5kIFNlcHRlbWJlciAyMDE0KDUwdGggQW5uaXZlcnNhcnkgb2YgYSBzZWxlY3QgMTAgMTk2NCBjYXJzIGluY2x1ZGluZyBUaWdlciwgcGx1cyB0aGUgU25heSBmYW1pbHlzIDQwLXllYXIgbG92ZSBhZmZhaXIgd2l0aCB0aGVpciBDYWxpZm9ybmlhIFRpZ2VyIGlzc3VlKS4KClRoZSBjb3N0IGlzICQxMCBwb3N0cGFpZCBmb3IgZWFjaC4gQ29udGEBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 06:51:31 -0700 From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Back issues of Tiger-oriented Hemmings issues Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I have one issue each to offer of the Sports and Exotic Car (January 2014 Andy Rooney issue) and September 2014(50th Anniversary of a select 10 1964 cars including Tiger, plus the Snay familys 40-year love affair with their California Tiger issue). The cost is $10 postpaid for each. Contact me offline. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 18:28:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D78CA2584F69 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 18:28:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173025pub.verizon.net (vms173025pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EB4F2584519 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 18:27:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ownerHP ([unknown] [98.117.211.220]) by vms173025.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N95004CI2MWLMC0@vms173025.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 19:28:09 -0500 (CDT) From: "Clyde McLaughlin" To: Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 20:28:11 -0400 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac+mC2harYI1XEz7QIqDSUWLuTipxA== Subject: [Tigers] tiger/sport/exotic Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net It was nice to see a tiger article in this mag, although car was an example of a survivor, it would have been nice to see a nicer example of todays cars, no offense to the owner of this unit..on the plus side after all the discussion last week about dipsticks, note the one bent over the generator, I remember this to be correct on some cares, mine had it, but I changed to chrome to go with dress up kit..the engine compartment pix is a good reference for original, except plug wires are a little rough and rad cap not correct..are those mufflers way in the back??? No comment on the wheels, clyde _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 19:40:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 673262585072 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 19:40:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from COL004-OMC1S11.hotmail.com (col004-omc1s11.hotmail.com [65.55.34.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 295102580BB6 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 19:39:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL131-DS10 ([65.55.34.9]) by COL004-OMC1S11.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Tue, 22 Jul 2014 18:39:38 -0700 From: "Curt Bowland" To: "tigers" Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 20:39:35 -0500 Seal-Send-Time: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 20:39:35 -0500 FILETIME=[F7653490:01CFA616] Subject: [Tigers] Scam alert Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Folks. I would like to alert people to a possible scam. I will not mention any names in this message for legal reasons. I was recently contacted by an individual offering a Tiger for sale at a VERY attractive price. Their contact message to me via e=mail stated that I had responded to a "Cars.com" ad sometime in the past. Evidently if you look at a Cars.com ad your e-mail is captured and used to prompt/remind the taker of that inquiry. I was told a story about family problems and even a death that the sender said made them to occupied with other tasks to respond. I began the process of the usual back and forth and received a relatively detailed description of the vehicle which included an offer to pay transportation costs for the first 500 miles. Several things kind of rang a bell for me. First, in the description of the restoration work, mention was made of the battery location, to where a Alpine battery would usually be. Also, it was noted that the exhaust did NOT pass through the frame in the usual Tiger fashion. Lastly, the tachometer had been replaced by an aftermarket item. My suspicion here was 4 cyl v 8 cyl. I kept exchanging e-mail and even included my phone info. Interestingly the other party never offered their contact information although reference to where they lived and the location of the car was exchanged. Being a LONG time Tiger person and active member of TE/AE I do have some additional resources available that an un-suspecting buyer might not have. I contacted one of these individuals who graciously offered to travel to the car's location and inspect on my behalf. As soon as I mentioned this to the seller asking for phone contact information all communication abruptly ceased. Here is what I will share in this message. The car is said to be a 1965 Tiger, BRG. with 30184 miles. Offered at $14,700. A picture of the VIN looks like B382006604 LRXFE but the seller stated B382000604. The tag looks pretty authentic. JAL is660600. No comment as to rivets but I do have a photo. The car I was told resides in the north east corner of South Carolina. Based on my experience I feel duty bound to share this information. Contact me off list for additional details. Curt in Chicago _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 22 20:27:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692862585066 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 20:27:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2lp0203.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6432580728 for ; Tue, 22 Jul 2014 20:27:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com (10.242.233.147) by BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com (10.242.233.147) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.990.7; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 02:27:54 +0000 Received: from BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com ([10.242.233.147]) by BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com ([10.242.233.147]) with mapi id 15.00.0990.007; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 02:27:54 +0000 From: "Teepen, Jere" To: Clyde McLaughlin , "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] tiger/sport/exotic Thread-Index: Ac+mC2harYI1XEz7QIqDSUWLuTipxAAEaN8Q Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 02:27:53 +0000 References: <008101cfa60c$fc2909c0$f47b1d40$@verizon.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [167.8.69.4] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID: x-forefront-prvs: 028166BF91 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(199002)(189002)(377454003)(13464003)(80022001)(74502001)(85306003)(87936001)(66066001)(105586002)(50986999)(85852003)(31966008)(2656002)(79102001)(95666004)(20776003)(106356001)(81542001)(76482001)(77982001)(21056001)(83322001)(86362001)(92566001)(107886001)(74662001)(107046002)(76176999)(99396002)(74316001)(81342001)(83072002)(46102001)(19580405001)(4396001)(64706001)(19580395003)(54356999)(33646002)(101416001)(108616002)(24736002); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2PR01MB156; H:BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; LANG:en; Subject: Re: [Tigers] tiger/sport/exotic Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I would call this a "day 2 car" with the period mods that have been added. The clear distributor cap is a real throwback. All the rage in the early 70's. The slotted mags are also a nice period enhancement, but are obviously a matter of personal preference. The tires are a huge concern. I believe the last Goodyear Eagle ST tires were made in the late 80's or early 90's. Old and risky. Jere -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Clyde McLaughlin Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:28 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] tiger/sport/exotic It was nice to see a tiger article in this mag, although car was an example of a survivor, it would have been nice to see a nicer example of todays cars, no offense to the owner of this unit..on the plus side after all the discussion last week about dipsticks, note the one bent over the generator, I remember this to be correct on some cares, mine had it, but I changed to chrome to go with dress up kit..the engine compartment pix is a good reference for original, except plug wires are a little rough and rad cap not correct..are those mufflers way in the back??? No comment on the wheels, clyde _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 11:27:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 506D525845E2 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 11:27:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm38-vm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm38-vm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7266258458A for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 11:26:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.153] by nm38.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2014 17:27:03 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.194] by tm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2014 17:27:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1003.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2014 17:27:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 24657 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jul 2014 17:27:03 -0000 s=s1024; t=1406136423; bh=vPFgZ+JCLR89rbb6oIixvObohxfYgGskDBcprkEwKYo=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZlCrpJuSAQmKR2WJuAHqxOh5yzgcT8OVJYEtXkr4R60ALGKSOKrsljZtBG3UJVNBRcbQP0KV7wK1mkG2bZ1OXzr5QcxXITNGZ8m2mIiHhNI7Fi1k7hlibB4PjIN4JL9+m2cwEgELWOEv/2kkMRrt/TzedRvmNIgKkJBs1aisHzs= V_BfFaIGGPYQg_Acp9GtetPtAOtcFD2jIY5zeTFNbuJLaBOJ3Pi24msN6Ow2 73Cc.x.lqfBnzZuJohTnHpjsTu5nnIZcwiS_e61.q0.SVfG8AAmZjymRUye6 5061wucz05MTc2p4QrGvYY3k_XLdHCDo3UTqQPtZ55NZH4FHoCoM2MRJYIxX OsnDMV8Ko1eI3wtxWU1euFHYp0RjAQ_21mt1Gf6dBpU2Md6h88C8HNuuPXFb TkcDtbIEPEFqmTDoEhByySihcWO0perIYVqRV1GS8Mh.R9ONztxj2dGsxvAG f3sghQNdnBNCFz_.hG3IRBy1rjPjpdgr9_tFu83132i6XDzxDWR4dGjG.gqf oOtkYnUmwBZqLumjYJhkvDD8Q8lY1wwL2vHKr6oO3PfNnrydxPDP2EUn37IF rc.XZzxhLC9A5lco9dvipZDaQ0U1vt0F9hd7unm5e39Wv1rVT6msuyfBDZPN lCfaeQk9AbTlA1qwXN3inAebghkRz Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162703.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 10:27:03 PDT SSwgdG9vLCBub3RpY2VkIHRoYXQgdGhlIFNhbnRhIE1hcmlhIFRpZ2VyIGlzIG5vdCAxMDAgcGVyY2VudCBvcmlnaW5hbCBvciBhIDEwMCBwb2ludCBleGFtcGxlLCBidXQgaXQgc2VlbXMgdG8gYmUgYSAxMiBtb250aCBhIHllYXIgZGFpbHkgZHJpdmVyLCBhbmQgSSdtIGZpbmUgd2l0aCB0aGUgY2FyIHRoYXQgdGhlIG1hZ2F6aW5lIGNob3NlLiBJJ20gYWx3YXlzIGludGVyZXN0ZWQgdG8gaGVhciBmcm9tIGxvbmd0aW1lIFRpZ2VyIG93bmVycywgYW5kIHJlbWVtYmVyIHRoYXQgdGhpcyB3YXMgdGhlIHNlY28BMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 10:27:03 -0700 From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] The Sports and Exotic Car recent article Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I, too, noticed that the Santa Maria Tiger is not 100 percent original or a 100 point example, but it seems to be a 12 month a year daily driver, and I'm fine with the car that the magazine chose. I'm always interested to hear from longtime Tiger owners, and remember that this was the second full Tiger IA evaluation from the magazine in seven months. Remember the Andy Rooney Tiger restoration article. If I have any concerns about the article, it's the comment about Tigers being built with "heavier gauge steel" than Alpines. Anyone read that before, anywhere? Also, the comment about the Dana diff. The axle assembly was sourced from the UK firm, Salisbury. Did Salisbury themselves source just the diff from Dana, or does it just have some common parts? I don't ask these things rhetorically, I'd like to know. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 13:03:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DB22585087 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:03:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CA112584490 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:03:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta003.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s6NJ1e0c007381; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:04:08 -0700 Received: by dm0225.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 40189235) id dm0225.53c897a9.59bfb; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:04:02 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'snakebit289'" , Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:03:50 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+mm1v1uho3aSmDQaK4YsKD1K+XlgADSlog engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-07-23_07:2014-07-23,2014-07-23,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1407230225 Subject: Re: [Tigers] The Sports and Exotic Car recent article Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Rande I don't know the full answer but the Parts List Pub #6601131 lists many Dana part numbers in the rear axle. Somehow Salibury and Dana have or had a business relationship. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of snakebit289 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 1:27 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] The Sports and Exotic Car recent article I, too, noticed that the Santa Maria Tiger is not 100 percent original or a 100 point example, but it seems to be a 12 month a year daily driver, and I'm fine with the car that the magazine chose. I'm always interested to hear from longtime Tiger owners, and remember that this was the second full Tiger IA evaluation from the magazine in seven months. Remember the Andy Rooney Tiger restoration article. If I have any concerns about the article, it's the comment about Tigers being built with "heavier gauge steel" than Alpines. Anyone read that before, anywhere? Also, the comment about the Dana diff. The axle assembly was sourced from the UK firm, Salisbury. Did Salisbury themselves source just the diff from Dana, or does it just have some common parts? I don't ask these things rhetorically, I'd like to know. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7904 - Release Date: 07/23/14 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 13:07:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7BF2584F2E for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:07:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mx0b-00176a03.pphosted.com (mx0b-00176a03.pphosted.com [67.231.157.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3FAB25846C2 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:07:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0048206.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0048206.ppops.net-00176a03. (8.14.7/8.14.7) with SMTP id s6NJ4kQM042597 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:07:47 -0400 Received: from cinmlip13.e2k.ad.ge.com (n165-156-000-000.static.ge.com [165.156.4.1] (may be forged)) by m0048206.ppops.net-00176a03. with ESMTP id 1nahv588vb-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:07:46 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO CINMBHT03.e2k.ad.ge.com) ([3.159.212.196]) by cinmlip13.e2k.ad.ge.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 23 Jul 2014 15:43:01 -0400 Received: from CINURAPD20.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.215.212) by CINMBHT03.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.212.196) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.195.1; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:07:45 -0400 Received: from CINURCNA16.e2k.ad.ge.com ([169.254.4.42]) by CINURAPD20.e2k.ad.ge.com ([169.254.10.123]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:07:45 -0400 From: "Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light)" To: snakebit289 Thread-Topic: Tiger Rear Axle Thread-Index: Ac+mqWHzxMhX2pqlR9WKCn+3uahfcw== Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 19:07:44 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [3.159.212.187] engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-07-23_07:2014-07-23,2014-07-23,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1407230226 Cc: 'Tiger List' Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Axle Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Rande, just rebuilt my Salisbury rear end last month, it is a DANA 44 design built by Salisbury, they were a subsidiary of Dana at the time. Every part that went into the rebuild was standard for a Dana 44 pressed-hub axle except for the ring gear bolts (7/16 vs 3/8). BTW, the combination of the 2.72 gear set, a Posi unit (thanks Spike!), a wide-ratio Toploader conversion, and a 370 ft-lb 331 stroker is absolutely wonderful, and somewhat addictive. Plenty of off-the-line bang, and a relaxed 2900 rpm at 75 MPH. Not quite as flexible as a 5-speed conversion but cheaper and no sheet metal cutting or banging or modifying required. The shop that completed it is Hensels Gearage in Massillon OH http://www.henselsgearage.com/ Dan Hensel is retired racer and they only do rear ends and have the correct hub puller, spreader and experience for Tiger axles, including the Glyptal. Contact me if you need more info. Bugz -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of snakebit289 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 1:27 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] The Sports and Exotic Car recent article I, too, noticed that the Santa Maria Tiger is not 100 percent original or a 100 point example, but it seems to be a 12 month a year daily driver, and I'm fine with the car that the magazine chose. I'm always interested to hear from longtime Tiger owners, and remember that this was the second full Tiger IA evaluation from the magazine in seven months. Remember the Andy Rooney Tiger restoration article. If I have any concerns about the article, it's the comment about Tigers being built with "heavier gauge steel" than Alpines. Anyone read that before, anywhere? Also, the comment about the Dana diff. The axle assembly was sourced from the UK firm, Salisbury. Did Salisbury themselves source just the diff from Dana, or does it just have some common parts? I don't ask these things rhetorically, I'd like to know. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mark.rense@ge.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 13:22:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2691925846B0 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:22:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f49.google.com (mail-qa0-f49.google.com [209.85.216.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D28258451C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:22:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id dc16so1777609qab.8 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:22:49 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=gOpK3VEXexcNFjUM051d3vE0ZWb1KxSnTstLx79YgUA=; b=BabDgSLuoTWmtYV28fuKD5AvglUMemnBFEFN7mY9xyDGXqohlwgoPhOZEamBHwxJNV aOVHMW8GKjas47sPK+MKA1YQvknmv2mt3oeagbmf9vb5R34mQhfAcPetV5vLVSAd8GyN s5g6F1nFfhp0bDGARCBvX5hqa+r9/a2VdUTAPpY9b61cK1bs+TwlilKLc2MK8GNhtDuj YwAO3RfrDG2ifUSND70E1eoZAd3Qo6Csm2CcQryU9X8M30X14EVtgCnQRuvkfy+zOXld ydaR/qSeluqbY9hg0fOYmIndCjDasellVV9NLZ5kCUrrMag/SLVl7ASeGqyQFZ4xvgAX qJyQ== d10mr5590303qar.9.1406143369448; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:22:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.195.101 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:22:49 -0700 (PDT) References: <26805228D183EF4E9C6F4499BB55B0514875877F@CINURCNA16.e2k.ad.ge.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:22:49 -0400 From: Tom Parker To: "Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light)" Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Axle Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The Tiger is a driver's car. It's not meant (in my opinion) to sit on a trailer or be restored to "as-built perfection; it was never a perfect car anyway. If you go "L.A.T." or up the engine power or displacement it's not "perfect," but it's a hellova lot of fun to drive. I admire the guys who are willing to do a perfect restoration, but if you can't drive it why own it? Tom '67 Mark 2. On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light) < mark.rense@ge.com> wrote: > Rande, just rebuilt my Salisbury rear end last month, it is a DANA 44 > design > built by Salisbury, they were a subsidiary of Dana at the time. Every part > that went into the rebuild was standard for a Dana 44 pressed-hub axle > except > for the ring gear bolts (7/16 vs 3/8). > > BTW, the combination of the 2.72 gear set, a Posi unit (thanks Spike!), a > wide-ratio Toploader conversion, and a 370 ft-lb 331 stroker is absolutely > wonderful, and somewhat addictive. Plenty of off-the-line bang, and a > relaxed > 2900 rpm at 75 MPH. Not quite as flexible as a 5-speed conversion but > cheaper > and no sheet metal cutting or banging or modifying required. > > The shop that completed it is Hensels Gearage in Massillon OH > http://www.henselsgearage.com/ > > Dan Hensel is retired racer and they only do rear ends and have the correct > hub puller, spreader and experience for Tiger axles, including the Glyptal. > Contact me if you need more info. > > Bugz > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > snakebit289 > Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 1:27 PM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] The Sports and Exotic Car recent article > > I, too, noticed that the Santa Maria Tiger is not 100 percent original or a > 100 point example, but it seems to be a 12 month a year daily driver, and > I'm > fine with the car that the magazine chose. I'm always interested to hear > from > longtime Tiger owners, and remember that this was the second full Tiger IA > evaluation from the magazine in seven months. Remember the Andy Rooney > Tiger > restoration article. > > If I have any concerns about the article, it's the comment about Tigers > being > built with "heavier gauge steel" than Alpines. Anyone read that before, > anywhere? Also, the comment about the Dana diff. The axle assembly was > sourced > from the UK firm, Salisbury. Did Salisbury themselves source just the diff > from Dana, or does it just have some common parts? I don't ask these things > rhetorically, I'd like to know. > > Rande Bellman > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mark.rense@ge.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 13:26:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5353025846BA for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:26:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from dnvrco-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B61258451C for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:26:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [71.76.35.60] ([71.76.35.60:3870] helo=EricGPC) by dnvrco-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 04/16-29174-16C00D35; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 19:26:26 +0000 From: "Eric Gibeaut" To: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:26:27 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+mq/+txCH64ONHSQicxV77hamcOg== Content-Language: en-us a=Yc4p14aR0dDJDDYC8MrL7g==:117 a=Yc4p14aR0dDJDDYC8MrL7g==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=gSB_twryC_0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=9iDbn-4jx3cA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=s2ESWgJ4AAAA:8 a=WeZZLm0me8_4eRwVeSUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=-TgJKpB-zb6d5KhEvlgA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 Subject: [Tigers] Could not make it to SUNI this year? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Then come join us at the TE/AE United September 11-15 at the Boyne Mountain Resort at Boyne Falls, Michigan! We will be staying in affordable resort rooms as it is the off season and remember that the early registration for the upcoming TE/AE United ends on August 1st. Please register early for lower cost. Non members of TE/AE are invited to attend the United and there is no extra charge to do so. All Rootes cars and owners are welcome! Also please contact me if you are bringing parts for sale at our huge Rootes swap meet and I will make sure you have a table or two. See more info about the United at www.rootesamerica.org or send me an email. Thank-you, Eric _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 13:52:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 851D62585139 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:52:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from filter01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net (filter01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.226]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D643D258508A for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 13:52:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by filter01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0454104C7E for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 19:52:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay03.roch.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.166]) by localhost (filter01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.226]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id EWbrCcEaWTw4 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 19:52:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from R0bert (50-52-46-64.cral.id.frontiernet.net [50.52.46.64]) by relay03.roch.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id C8E3823B55 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 19:52:38 +0000 (UTC) From: "Bob Hokanson" To: "Tigers" References: <26805228D183EF4E9C6F4499BB55B0514875877F@CINURCNA16.e2k.ad.ge.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 12:52:41 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Axle Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Speaking of DANA/SALISBURY, Rootes always alluded to an optional 3.77 rear gear but Dana seems to use 3.73. Is there an actual difference or is it 2 different names for the same thing? Bob H -----Original Message----- From: Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light) Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 12:07 PM To: snakebit289 Cc: 'Tiger List' Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Rear Axle Rande, just rebuilt my Salisbury rear end last month, it is a DANA 44 design built by Salisbury, they were a subsidiary of Dana at the time. Every part that went into the rebuild was standard for a Dana 44 pressed-hub axle except for the ring gear bolts (7/16 vs 3/8). BTW, the combination of the 2.72 gear set, a Posi unit (thanks Spike!), a wide-ratio Toploader conversion, and a 370 ft-lb 331 stroker is absolutely wonderful, and somewhat addictive. Plenty of off-the-line bang, and a relaxed 2900 rpm at 75 MPH. Not quite as flexible as a 5-speed conversion but cheaper and no sheet metal cutting or banging or modifying required. The shop that completed it is Hensels Gearage in Massillon OH http://www.henselsgearage.com/ Dan Hensel is retired racer and they only do rear ends and have the correct hub puller, spreader and experience for Tiger axles, including the Glyptal. Contact me if you need more info. Bugz -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of snakebit289 Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2014 1:27 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] The Sports and Exotic Car recent article I, too, noticed that the Santa Maria Tiger is not 100 percent original or a 100 point example, but it seems to be a 12 month a year daily driver, and I'm fine with the car that the magazine chose. I'm always interested to hear from longtime Tiger owners, and remember that this was the second full Tiger IA evaluation from the magazine in seven months. Remember the Andy Rooney Tiger restoration article. If I have any concerns about the article, it's the comment about Tigers being built with "heavier gauge steel" than Alpines. Anyone read that before, anywhere? Also, the comment about the Dana diff. The axle assembly was sourced from the UK firm, Salisbury. Did Salisbury themselves source just the diff from Dana, or does it just have some common parts? I don't ask these things rhetorically, I'd like to know. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mark.rense@ge.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tgrrr@frontier.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 15:13:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4255A2584477 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:13:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail01.alloftheweb.net (mailsvc005.cisp.com [68.70.191.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4E225803F4 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:12:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail01.alloftheweb.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB080C3E07 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:13:02 -0400 (EDT) mail01.alloftheweb.net Received: from mail01.alloftheweb.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail01.alloftheweb.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mdoHYeZjzjT5 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:13:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LonWaltersPC (24-156-99-62.npg.sta.suddenlink.net [24.156.99.62]) by mail01.alloftheweb.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B456FC3DA3 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 17:13:01 -0400 (EDT) From: "Lon Walters" To: Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 14:13:17 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac+muuw51gF7ApHaSGet27t8C37aPQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Age-Old Tire Debate . . . Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Think this an ostrich approach, but wait and see the final report . . . Maybe these are the same folks who ignore ignition switches on GM cars . . . Lon By SEMA Washington, D.C., Staff The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) does not intend to issue a federal safety standard based on tire age. The agency announced its decision in a report entitled, "Tire Aging: A Summary of NHTSA's Work." The agency has been studying the issue for many years. The NHTSA cited several primary factors for not pursuing a tire-aging safety standard. It noted that tires have become more robust in recent years as a result of increased performance mandates required under the Transportation Safety Enhancement, Accountability and Documentation (TREAD) Act of 2000. Recent crash data verify that these tires are performing better on the road. The NHTSA also credited mandatory tire pressure monitoring systems (TPMS) installed on newer vehicles as having helped alert motorists when tires are underinflated. The NHTSA did note a continuing concern for tires in hot-weather states and spare tires that may be very old and may potentially be rotated into use. The NHTSA intends to discuss the topic through social media messages, fact sheets, infographics and other web content. stuartg@sema.org ---- _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 23 16:20:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA002584707 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:20:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm32.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm32.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B5852580510 for ; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 16:19:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm32.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2014 22:19:42 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.103] by nm32.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2014 22:16:59 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.172] by tm102.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2014 22:16:59 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.195] by tm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2014 22:16:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jul 2014 22:16:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 87742 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jul 2014 22:16:59 -0000 s=s1024; t=1406153819; bh=k3WVdUBmDAN35aZMBFdrOTuspgtSGu+KeQRKA+vnz3M=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=5Vn4Y97SCLYKfXpGv+nNno3zKu48p8zAPHwUNCuaAnqEV4VEutTr3OqSgLiIW9bXxwsZlMCXciPKbHtatgD+t5Gfa3aTxzKTbVHiyma+iNX/GkIJpn/3BBp78E6J5b3FAlKSGU4J2pWMEdOkomwaCuuTQFMGEyVwPTGWWFtjvgk= vNChRn5uIErIDv6WRxCLNdemLyACh1LYpJcYMf7z_dxg11XPtbn_PHUr5BcF jKJ_5ukB5_TnNjkH8..I_IJw7CzfyNr9v9yxku1d1xoyh20nyGr.hbeQjbOj xyOR9UwGq8aJSC04kPU38N2bOx_XAA4tJu4uz_BCmNFO0tiDxm_J7Yiy8ygC NimHoGm3nhr5sDE28JtQ49yRpfOClSusBle1ctp6qHmA2vtTn6AKm1EzwOlW h9uD9nkmab0fLkTSVR2ch3SYafna5kqHVADjxzmfyIjPblH22Tft.qwcHadI qp6eUZ5vQBIytdpWfiCcqaws0huSnqQVxG858G14yu_36hNotkgeWSpX68yF EVjGCafT3LIpV.0GiDRv5Ip1o7l_RDzWTO4Xpf_y63oJgTzCL.IkwlGLhOqU BJD8.9vNM7SMcws88Dz9u7Qe0JDE_6WCLp_98hd4gzP_.RdF6K7vGyYBCMj1 D2wt93RHT3tplog-- Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:16:58 PDT VGhhbmtzIHRvIHRob3NlIHdobyBhbnN3ZXJlZCB0aGUgcXVlc3Rpb24gYWJvdXQgdGhlIFNhbGlzYnVyeS9EYW5hIGF4bGUgcGFydHMuCgpSYW5kZQoBMAEBAQE- Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2014 15:16:58 -0700 From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tiger axle question answers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to those who answered the question about the Salisbury/Dana axle parts. Rande _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 07:32:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB7D258477A for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 07:32:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm46-vm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm46-vm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.115.108]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C382580550 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 07:31:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.153] by nm46.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jul 2014 13:31:58 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.248] by tm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jul 2014 13:31:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1057.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Jul 2014 13:31:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 66120 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jul 2014 13:31:58 -0000 s=s1024; t=1406208718; bh=8xoUNcFT3tPkh1X/ymTIEouQwSz9P6KG8SHNpa0bUPI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=k9GKw4gvX4plVYRotW6G00wsnyq8A4t2CnaXPtDyaGOEGiaAyjMGceZHgXoWeoV2oSHjNozqDz9i1Pb/bAmEfmtaBLxqyO9H+8gxjUkTdKTMV9Ay0P8TTRmYBIxG9MXhLmLp65SI1TJeTtOt7yxVTdixIQFc3S+r+Jxr7/Yi5Vw= aGnnvR_C1rBWv49jvBjjn5mVxnbEGFHz0iuYcC_NudSreQJs_k_YalL80.MN EV38tNz0WpSJEz7GfAFWIBRhwv1S1erZwPz8bcXMU1obABar3p..VZmzBREw ZqPWLfRxc8FOlqFZvw5rgQ5i78I.v_iHfpZz9GDlOUcjCpSJMucC3dmKMyZj oAvNEQ24LJa9uOrmlqjzXcJn_hRoCVjJeQ70H5_q06f7VJf3GfhsV6aqR9WG Ae3ebu0kGGs0y8PcTNNBG0uZ6brcNWRTf3gjOR8sAJ8YS5PHWVg1fZrKoNhz aw_06s0L0q2Vb1r99fUMZ4tdKvKBSHFXxVc.Eor4cSZ3iNOG0GAEMNrJV621 EfjuOtpfiRJfj8kom.8YeueyclyyQdddphrEcoryiaPn_LQf5JTAhmeBxUUU ppn8MfJEs27vcyKxLk_2Zx2OB6vY4g2AVz6nHtVndVhfVxH_PEsfcQhRDd44 - Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 06:31:58 PDT V2hlbiBJIHB1dCBvdXQgdGhlICdTYWxpc2J1cnknIHJlZmVyZW5jZSwgaXQgd2FzIGFzIGEgcmVzdWx0IG9mIGhhdmluZyBhIGNvcHkgb2YgYW4gaW5kdXN0cmlhbCBhZCBhZHZlcnRpc2luZyB0aGUgY2hvaWNlIG9mwqAgdGhlaXIgYXhsZXMgaW4gdGhlIGFzc2VtYmx5IG9mIHRoZSBTdW5iZWFtIFRpZ2VyLiBJIGFsc28gaGF2ZSBhIHNpbWlsYXIgYWQgZnJvbSBIYXJkeSBTcGljZXIgdG91dGluZyB0aGUgdXNlIG9mIHRoZWlyIHByb3BlbGxlciBzaGFmdHMgaW4gVGlnZXIgYXNzZW1ibHksIGJvdGggYXQgdGgBMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 06:31:58 -0700 From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Dana versus Salisbury, etc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net When I put out the 'Salisbury' reference, it was as a result of having a copy of an industrial ad advertising the choice of their axles in the assembly of the Sunbeam Tiger. I also have a similar ad from Hardy Spicer touting the use of their propeller shafts in Tiger assembly, both at the time (50 years ago) part of the Birfield Group in Birmingham. It makes sense that one or both companies or the Birfield concern in total would be absorbed by Dana in the intervening time. The reference to the Dana 44 diff is not totally foreign to me, as I've read references to it while owners have discussed repairing their diffs or modifying them using local parts sources. I recently found a similar industrial ad from Pressed Steel mentioning that they were the source for the body shell, paint, and trim for the Tiger. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 17:49:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9C0258069E for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 17:49:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A676258068C for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 17:49:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from user1PC ([unknown] [108.47.32.37]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N9800EVCQ7JTP80@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 18:50:08 -0500 (CDT) From: "Tom Witt" To: References: <1406208718.14396.YahooMailNeo@web162702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:50:01 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dana versus Salisbury, etc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net >>>I recently found a similar industrial ad from Pressed Steel mentioning >>>that they were the source for the body shell, paint, and TRIM for the >>>Tiger.<<< If Pressed Steel is still in business maybe someone from the Mark II crowd should contact them. They might have the ability to still recreate the trim that is selling for..., was it $8,000? While there is talk about alternative methods of creating this trim, maybe the possibility exists that the original tooling is still available... somewhere... ??? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 18:35:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DAAB2584912 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 18:35:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f46.google.com (mail-qa0-f46.google.com [209.85.216.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDBC5258069E for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 18:34:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id v10so3811532qac.19 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 17:35:17 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=YDZbIW7gOzduZ4GrtQVwPhV3HioJSX5p7SFx2SJakZA=; b=0Oe5GFRnC/PeIJVuZJxMFx+/ZN5IPk58S2AtYc1JhfXsO/jVigmtBbMoa/qmLbFzXY 7pRC6hRpmDCgJ6GOizJ/jzBbedGS1pxTJ1L5JsmfPr51NerczoiuWFUmcZeh/jqM1jIC AA153gC2G7X6FEylUGQDjmCMZgp+9M+XL/rBOJH+aSzmcRk9F0Fce0Z99weIuFPgjcNS G2OStiRzq7geWmVm8fGqW/1z67kWQbbFuNXe+oGWgSMdFYqmk58ZIohMgBJJeV8cgzGk aoSQ8QmI2ntVIa8yRJi0uMWZkYEbBazfklegYAvjy85KQw0XK//+CbPul5kiHc7ylrBm ZaBw== a6mr21589823qar.39.1406248517647; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 17:35:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.195.101 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 17:35:17 -0700 (PDT) References: <1406208718.14396.YahooMailNeo@web162702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 20:35:17 -0400 From: Tom Parker To: Tom Witt Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dana versus Salisbury, etc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tom, Good thought! But I think they're dead - according to Wikipedia they became part of BMH Group, then part of British Leyland, which was "Nationalized" in 2005. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressed_Steel_Company http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Leyland Maybe some of our friends "across the pond" can help with research or even (be still my heart!) Mark 2 Wheel Trim. Tom '67 Mark 2 On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Tom Witt wrote: > I recently found a similar industrial ad from Pressed Steel mentioning >>>> that they were the source for the body shell, paint, and TRIM for the >>>> Tiger.<<< >>>> >>> > If Pressed Steel is still in business maybe someone from the Mark II crowd > should contact them. They might have the ability to still recreate the trim > that is selling for..., was it $8,000? While there is talk about > alternative methods of creating this trim, maybe the possibility exists > that the original tooling is still available... somewhere... ??? > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@ > gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 19:47:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F4B2584891 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:47:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f180.google.com (mail-vc0-f180.google.com [209.85.220.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B15C425806A5 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:45:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id ij19so6256111vcb.11 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 18:46:10 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=QPSgix+IUMGXcahZzOsY8+Q43PLMzNCw7dO3KJQT7Dk=; b=MNAEsUnjWdQAOo/u64r0R88dyGrRHLDElJoPSJYA1T0xkfz+2S5WpqCg8A4MlNzvvg NZpfb1wMejl03v5wOVwA3jYzh5L+KZkRW1OOcEhNYpeCN/uhQhYurGbx8Pet9UYAtpdK IdPuoGg1Oio9/rYZgBeXuQAG2xxDasMGUKiQxyM3boeW3E3tcRcPv4uPFMiVlGn7L+SU PEKYVeijHNcjsZp+hGg90hI79v+ot7Df/8GnHVd6sERZIF3omXidYSZRclm1RkEUCag0 alqiZ3TYlhvQjsz1Ah7hB4Cchnzm1dvVVqo/S/uitS+a0oCxSHsDkPZSQm0qAo+bcEzq OPUg== ov8mr17482808vcb.27.1406252770522; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 18:46:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.238.74 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 18:46:10 -0700 (PDT) References: <1406208718.14396.YahooMailNeo@web162702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:46:10 -0400 From: Owain Lloyd To: Tom Parker Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dana versus Salisbury, etc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net er... i don't think anything in the UK was nationalized in 2005! maybe 1975? On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Tom Parker wrote: > Tom, > > Good thought! But I think they're dead - according to Wikipedia they became > part of BMH Group, then part of British Leyland, which was "Nationalized" > in 2005. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressed_Steel_Company > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Leyland > > Maybe some of our friends "across the pond" can help with research or even > (be still my heart!) Mark 2 Wheel Trim. > > Tom > '67 Mark 2 > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Tom Witt wrote: > > > I recently found a similar industrial ad from Pressed Steel mentioning > >>>> that they were the source for the body shell, paint, and TRIM for the > >>>> Tiger.<<< > >>>> > >>> > > If Pressed Steel is still in business maybe someone from the Mark II > crowd > > should contact them. They might have the ability to still recreate the > trim > > that is selling for..., was it $8,000? While there is talk about > > alternative methods of creating this trim, maybe the possibility exists > > that the original tooling is still available... somewhere... ??? > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@ > > gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 20:06:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89093258489D for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 20:06:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f43.google.com (mail-oa0-f43.google.com [209.85.219.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8008C2580736 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 20:06:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id i7so4857079oag.16 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:07:13 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=2FQUJMUDx0ICFHvm7cvgWZXu820et4X8RzqZlqReDLE=; b=ST1XnjPxHmd9cnEVd6JpWaWjftbNYCSmxndKp2/xwzNhFScelQUGTNK1yflJSStMJf x1Sp6FAPeo2xhwzzV11sQMZ7SNs6EqRjqN/nPdW1miU8qz8pL3ErYskLl+O8Fgr/FNsm 2xaXD4u39tJQZNGW5RoPfiyCpRqSKMaqZL15F1JgkQiRwygmAmVh/zzMLlu1gzN7bkGy 0bilulNIfbjxVGWTzcx/Ih/cXD9kbb4agc8ESpSLxsvBaCtygKUR1a0cSethWWf0cOPy wxy5t4vtQ8JVz5iqe3fHMLw9Ud0kNZqsC63zyD9qHMe4Rd9gQUPRnW7uhrafmwDMWBe4 8Gzg== as9mr18742771obd.44.1406254033481; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.228.196 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:07:13 -0700 (PDT) References: <1406208718.14396.YahooMailNeo@web162702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 10:07:13 +0800 From: michael king To: Owain Lloyd Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dana versus Salisbury, etc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net didnt they basically nationalise the banks in the GFC :-P _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 20:32:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C0725848AA for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 20:32:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08F1C2584766 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 20:31:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id hy4so6449436vcb.13 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:31:55 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=UkG7uv/Z3T5zxTqp6H2KwtE010UE+Sh1AnrNT9neq6M=; b=PmIu1ajd91oiQTkIj5TNnrWNBpT+LkkONHWbdmikaPY0j7bw8UjLMALW9D5yIuRRqr rUrbuNB9kQYeeTIcP8TvMpAHpTui3iF385YL6uz/10SjF4QmXNW2mtXcr/2xMsEtSCue AGj3CRhGevjEQsJclVaisF58UzpRgOarrnaOllj90vnye8iOxP0Mh+Lb4GPh7uNX4B8i LPk/ltwxGYbRTQorhCCfZ0SaetrFmEK0v4XIoDkzi0+KNLWpXXYJsg24IpQGIBv/C7V7 q8HCfhO8JQLUOwpq/J/u1xxeoqy41jTo3fUuIw7us3Pb6vHBl4E780u7mdKPpjUF1hnp nCEA== zx7mr8574281vdc.2.1406255514866; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.238.74 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 19:31:54 -0700 (PDT) References: <1406208718.14396.YahooMailNeo@web162702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:31:54 -0400 From: Owain Lloyd To: michael king Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dana versus Salisbury, etc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net That was later :) On Thursday, July 24, 2014, michael king wrote: > didnt they basically nationalise the banks in the GFC :-P _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 20:33:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A86362584891 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 20:33:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1blp0189.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.189]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AE632584766 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 20:31:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com (10.242.233.147) by BY2PR01MB153.prod.exchangelabs.com (10.242.233.140) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.995.14; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 02:32:02 +0000 Received: from BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com ([10.242.233.147]) by BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com ([10.242.233.147]) with mapi id 15.00.0990.007; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 02:32:02 +0000 From: "Teepen, Jere" To: "owain.lloyd@gmail.com" , Tom Parker Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Dana versus Salisbury, etc Thread-Index: AQHPp0OoPRuGTigoHEm53op9+bW8CJuv5W+AgAAMpoCAABPOAIAAC+cQ Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 02:32:02 +0000 References: <1406208718.14396.YahooMailNeo@web162702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [167.8.69.4] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID: x-forefront-prvs: 02830F0362 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(13464003)(51704005)(189002)(199002)(377454003)(24454002)(85306003)(83322001)(80022001)(74316001)(20776003)(15975445006)(107046002)(64706001)(15202345003)(19625735002)(21056001)(33646002)(50986999)(76176999)(101416001)(19580395003)(19580405001)(66066001)(54356999)(99396002)(93886003)(81542001)(95666004)(46102001)(105586002)(79102001)(76482001)(87936001)(31966008)(81342001)(85852003)(106356001)(106116001)(83072002)(86362001)(4396001)(2656002)(92566001)(74662001)(77982001)(74502001)(108616002)(24736002); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2PR01MB153; H:BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; LANG:en; Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dana versus Salisbury, etc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I recall reading something to the effect that Pressed Steel is now Ex Pressed Steel or some such. I believe they are doing the new bodies for MGBs, Minis, Midgets, TR6s. It has been a while since I hve read anything about them though. And I agree that BMH (British Motor Holdings?) had something to do with the operation. -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Owain Lloyd Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:46 PM To: Tom Parker Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dana versus Salisbury, etc er... i don't think anything in the UK was nationalized in 2005! maybe 1975? On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Tom Parker wrote: > Tom, > > Good thought! But I think they're dead - according to Wikipedia they > became part of BMH Group, then part of British Leyland, which was "Nationalized" > in 2005. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressed_Steel_Company > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Leyland > > Maybe some of our friends "across the pond" can help with research or > even (be still my heart!) Mark 2 Wheel Trim. > > Tom > '67 Mark 2 > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Tom Witt wrote: > > > I recently found a similar industrial ad from Pressed Steel > > mentioning > >>>> that they were the source for the body shell, paint, and TRIM for > >>>> the Tiger.<<< > >>>> > >>> > > If Pressed Steel is still in business maybe someone from the Mark II > crowd > > should contact them. They might have the ability to still recreate > > the > trim > > that is selling for..., was it $8,000? While there is talk about > > alternative methods of creating this trim, maybe the possibility > > exists that the original tooling is still available... somewhere... ??? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 21:59:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DB4125848B3 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:59:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f48.google.com (mail-qa0-f48.google.com [209.85.216.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C8E2580761 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 21:59:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id m5so3935350qaj.7 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 20:59:52 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=JiF8AeFBKyaaKkV0UMcNe33O/PhunawgjpHKpIrY/YE=; b=nTfwSn4ZxEJACiaHUzDOhdxl4AuNOYAVKk6jPQ/oG+mWOeMibQnSZVFJVMJXWvXNUN DOl3+ishRHqkDv5DynKtP2FumwcBnhd4sfXDZOmHLaPegmftHoDz35ILIv5+qL703Sdl 7JQQo4tcX9XC5WM5u3Y8jQH4Hkj2nbqS341gAknL3ty+kBIqPI08chC+y+MEDK5+VPaF kuKnomOqjc2M4C6Q5wzb+JYFODGk0BzLhi0fQX/N7pgk9h+8vLBm6avUFr3zYLcfTgQV ctFwK+JALSPYzAv6tMbp7lF03UFBrJtk+vjvx3RduQW5295Y874ipB2r+bTirEPhsr/m I1AQ== 11mr22491026qgs.9.1406260792776; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 20:59:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.195.101 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 20:59:52 -0700 (PDT) References: <1406208718.14396.YahooMailNeo@web162702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <10fc1a6542724fd2b07587313beb3631@BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 23:59:52 -0400 From: Tom Parker To: "Teepen, Jere" Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dana versus Salisbury, etc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Found a company named Ex-pressed steel; they make body panels for European Fords and other makes, but nothing about trim. Some Rootes, no Alpine or Tiger. http://www.steelpanels.co.uk/ Tom '67 Mark 2 On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Teepen, Jere wrote: > I recall reading something to the effect that Pressed Steel is now Ex > Pressed Steel or some such. I believe they are doing the new bodies for > MGBs, Minis, Midgets, TR6s. It has been a while since I hve read anything > about them though. And I agree that BMH (British Motor Holdings?) had > something to do with the operation. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Owain > Lloyd > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 6:46 PM > To: Tom Parker > Cc: LIST TIGER > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dana versus Salisbury, etc > > er... i don't think anything in the UK was nationalized in 2005! maybe > 1975? > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Tom Parker > wrote: > > > Tom, > > > > Good thought! But I think they're dead - according to Wikipedia they > > became part of BMH Group, then part of British Leyland, which was > "Nationalized" > > in 2005. > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pressed_Steel_Company > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Leyland > > > > Maybe some of our friends "across the pond" can help with research or > > even (be still my heart!) Mark 2 Wheel Trim. > > > > Tom > > '67 Mark 2 > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 7:50 PM, Tom Witt > wrote: > > > > > I recently found a similar industrial ad from Pressed Steel > > > mentioning > > >>>> that they were the source for the body shell, paint, and TRIM for > > >>>> the Tiger.<<< > > >>>> > > >>> > > > If Pressed Steel is still in business maybe someone from the Mark II > > crowd > > > should contact them. They might have the ability to still recreate > > > the > > trim > > > that is selling for..., was it $8,000? While there is talk about > > > alternative methods of creating this trim, maybe the possibility > > > exists that the original tooling is still available... somewhere... ??? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 24 23:06:58 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED2B925848B1 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 23:06:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC0EE2584875 for ; Thu, 24 Jul 2014 23:06:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from HPamdX2 ([unknown] [173.58.234.133]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N99005YQ4VJTB70@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 00:06:55 -0500 (CDT) From: "Buck Trippel" To: Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2014 22:06:42 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Monterey Reunion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Itbs a few weeks until many of us head off to Monterey to celebrate the Tigersb 50th. A number of Tigers will race at Laguna Seca on the weekend of the 8th & 9th in the Rolex Pre Reunion. Nine Tigers have been invited to race in the Reunion and it looks like another Fifty will be in the Tigersb Car Corral. This will probably be the largest Tiger gathering in the country this year. Tiger owners are driving in from all over the country for this party. Herebs a schedule of Tiger Related events: Tuesday 8/12 10A-5P Carmel Concours (Tiger class) Wednesday 8/13 9A-5P Registration at track in Paddock Classroom all day Tech race Tigers Thursday 8/14 7am-5pm Registration at Embassy Suites 9AM Drivers Meeting 10:20-10:40 Group 4A (Tigers) Practice & Qualifying 10:30 Caravan leaves from Los Gatos Lodge to Baja Cantina 1:00PM Lunch at Baja Cantina 4:00PM stage at a location (to be determined) at Laguna Seca Raceway 5:00PM practice ends. Tigers enter track at turn 11 gate for picture. 1st Picture w/ race cars in front. 2nd Picture street cars only. Participants party begins. Friday 8/15 10-10:20 Group 4A (Tigers) Practice & Qualifying Saturday 8/16 6:30-9AM Participants Breakfast 9:55- Group 4A (Tigers) Race 3-3:30PM Group 4A (Tigers) Rolex Race BBQ in Tiger pits after races. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 01:55:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AD825849B4 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 01:55:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail12.chariot.com.au (mail12.chariot.com.au [220.244.226.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D998F2584889 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 01:55:26 -0600 (MDT) SMTP AUTH 2014 17:55:45 +1000; auth=GYqxqzYRTKPsk6lNWcuXaHioFj2ujmuFFDsCIj8emNM= Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([116.250.218.53]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail12.chariot.com.au (envelope-from tonbren@chariot.net.au) (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id s6P7tcAx010683 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:55:45 +1000 Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 17:25:34 +0930 From: Tony User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: tigers@autox.team.net References: <1406208718.14396.YahooMailNeo@web162702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <10fc1a6542724fd2b07587313beb3631@BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dana versus Salisbury, etc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I believe it was the Pressed Metel Corporation here in Australia and was associated with BLMC in Zetland NSW many years ago. Tony _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 04:32:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FDB22584A06 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 04:32:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm10-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 858D7258488D for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 04:31:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.143] by nm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jul 2014 10:32:01 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.237] by tm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jul 2014 10:32:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1046.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Jul 2014 10:32:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 46302 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Jul 2014 10:32:01 -0000 s=s1024; t=1406284321; bh=asnaqqxIUNeK5wokzzUcXRty5hev32OxegtOPjCYDzY=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eZW3TJ/P0f0oFSLRLAuIG32rTYqVTfR6MD9AB4IqKvNTm5Q1/X92V9kRC0wKtDI6bflCgfv6KCKOXho1MsDL0mTNph1uP0ruaHM8sL4lyPIyb+GGVOHOFyNwiZh9B3wKmEqxdI5MW0ZTZB+4d1YvctiApjJbJSS8AR7PLOJfXEY= g6g9Mrt8PqRVVPSI0HxaTyZhvj_UiLTf8S1XOtx6OQmoYb3dEoSRGahNJt5s 9yf8byWrHVqBEqdeNnlW2cG1vTRqL5vj9IOHSexAw1kh3L5UdQHt2u.fuMRO Az2v.Mwm2V8FPHSY0AW5jFP8rZLUcM.vkqJnxEx9GtscXUDyVGiLXqxirFaM w7QuYfrpEtqif6ZMGTXLJ8lABLmHvaMkCfavMrxrlhRNeT8aVfvf2jo7Ibd3 _ZaOxhwMDL5nK7Yyzk2S4qIOUNp6zsQrcyAlD3hsxxyDCSxulPguMxqqmWdN RMDpXRRHy5vtvCMt3H.2eKQOy6tNiUrInk3UYJ90LL8ooG1ZAnNZmIPNWr28 D5kUGj9nxU1MArTm2H7Y25kQPTsfJFgYylVOzvovRDaxTD0JSTOtsOtNK61D PWY3.j8yTgLkCoWYWtl71FAI5Lkfxsqa.jjOmwqrXeM4VNCFmO2op Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 03:32:01 PDT SG9wZSBpcyBhIHdvbmRlcmZ1bCB0aGluZywgYnV0IEkgdGhpbmsgbXkgaW5mb3JtYXRpb24gZ2l2ZW4gb3V0IGFib3V0IFByZXNzZWQgU3RlZWwsIGFuZCB0aGVpciBhZCB0b3V0aW5nIHdoYXQgdGhleSBzdXBwbGllZCB0byBSb290ZXMgZm9yIGFzc2VtYmxpbmcgdGhlIFRpZ2VyIG1pZ2h0IGJlIG1pc2xlYWRpbmcuCgpUaGUgYWQgc2hvd2VkIGEgcGhvdG8gdmVyeSBwb3B1bGFybHkgdXNlZCwgYW5kIHN1cHBsaWVkIGJ5IFJvb3Rlcy4gSXQgc2hvd2VkIGEgVGlnZXIgTWFyayBJIChpLmUuIGEgbW9kZWwgd2kBMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 03:32:01 -0700 From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Pressed Steel and 'trim' Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hope is a wonderful thing, but I think my information given out about Pressed Steel, and their ad touting what they supplied to Rootes for assembling the Tiger might be misleading. The ad showed a photo very popularly used, and supplied by Rootes. It showed a Tiger Mark I (i.e. a model with no wheel opening or rocker mouldings). Many times, when a manufacturer or vendor talks about 'trim' in the automotive industry, they're referring to upholstery, things like inside door lining, rear wing interior lining, seating, and instrument panel padding. We(Tiger owners) are instead looking for a viable source to reproduce Mark II mouldings(in this case). I wonder if it would make sense to find out who makes reproduction wheel opening and rocker panel mouldings for popular American special interest cars, like GM A-body (Chevelle-Cutlass- Skylark- LeMans/GTO and Ford US cars, and how many kits our Tiger hobby is willing to commit to buying, and how much money are prospective buyers longterm willing to pay. Right now, all we know is that a set recently gaveled away on eBay for $8000. Was that the result of two over eager bidders in just one instance willing to break the bank to win and no future bidders are going to place so high a value on these parts again. Or is this the new norm for Mark II mouldings? And, should we involve people like Rick McLeod or Curt from Classic Sunbeam to negotiate on our behalf? Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Jul 25 06:22:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F502584A2E for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 06:22:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E211B25849AD for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2014 06:20:55 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1406290877; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=ffm4SEH44KJHR2EStaiUI4xnoXM1AWtxmQHnbJyZqXk6iryI0iV9sGTcpPavy1CrS G0sokj8LkJfiQSVxhcqgRSZCeXgTk6DxXtsTYYgusKbQ6lxs5oiZN2TG1M4bZDcGhw e0So3oZHDkoby+xYUhlDyrHYXKLez6VO5oKhP260= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail01.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.141]) by smtpout04.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABK7EU69AXVT6JA for (sender ); Fri, 25 Jul 2014 05:20:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [134.228.4.89] by webmail01.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 12:19:24 GMT From: "un-cole-a@juno.com" Full-Name: "un-cole-a@juno.com" Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 12:19:24 GMT To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Toledo Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net In Toledo Ohio for the weekend, any Tiger owners out there in the Toledo area that would like to give me the chance to take a look at their Tiger. Mine is still under restoration and I'm jonesen(sp) just to sit in one and maybe take a look for inspiration to keep plugging a long with the restoration. TimB9470149 ____________________________________________________________ The #1 Worst Carb Ever? Click to Learn #1 Carb that Kills Your Blood Sugar (Don't Eat This!) http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/53d24ba063c4b9f6a56st04vuc _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 26 05:23:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB7E25807C7 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 05:23:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm41.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm41.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.120.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E64782580747 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 05:22:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm41.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jul 2014 11:23:13 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.111] by nm41.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jul 2014 11:20:21 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.172] by tm100.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jul 2014 11:20:21 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.249] by tm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jul 2014 11:20:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1058.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jul 2014 11:20:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 37424 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Jul 2014 11:20:21 -0000 s=s1024; t=1406373621; bh=w9ODXzDf0tzM/zBXMJk57SQz6b9WQYEM6xtqDtM4txM=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jmK7xS2IkHnUNCEV829DUHZ3rSeo+LU5JNwdwvyEXymTZIeeRME/w+QNdl+ostRo/WqSNBBWOxSZc/0DNFyUtgdcgOy6aqYmpg6GSk9gLQZLS6Xk7JehrGFcsiY0KjNiyK3Blrsh/DEDhYN8zRT6H9ILZlZvZ+vxRomYotTo2AQ= YojcS_NPR0OpNahq4gvs5OkD3huCq3GMc0pGesDwvxqK6P8H4ugFCH5pZfL7 kvFCNiX6IV8gqQ68Ir9ktzcs.BT7SEWosynGpzXZsaAYbrlgCHq92LspdbrG 2s_ZW784Wb3Dn521sF66RwU6LNOs0zMjl9597wuqS_N76fDJ9I6s2FS0xUAY klmkCTouZblxZelkwVoND6ZwZGT3_a0pxRs7DE1eDxK.Eb54_7KdvP1sUrRS NmmT6tBTO_JPPOq1tGATsEUFmX0UdmhM2LzcAaaF8o6r4x8VQBZZNQfsoD.0 TEwjt_mFU_v6khggA70VuJr46OHUxEvMFYIWtkETHWhZ0a.5jfatkv0U14J5 6AIn0osMtxz9R6hxWOal7WKwb_0M_yBYflbpUMostR.3XTwoZ99hycBrdSWT 7hNKbqcY06w_fazenEffRl9vJ4w_Btf90m.ZK56gWcnW_SQxo3cHImXZ_t3B QFLACLAW7U71TcTaxV_ZEyDKdzj7hyh8aaki74QbsXBBRd9yAz6JAMx10Jj9 7jlDxBzHqPn7Npsa2kJH7nVQ- Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 04:20:21 PDT ClNoZWxieS1Qb3dlcmVkIFRpZ2VyIExlYWRzIHRoaXMgRXVybyBSYWxseSBMaW5ldXAgfCBQZXRyb2xpY2lvdXMKClNvbWUgb2YgeW91CnJlbWVtYmVycyB0aGlzIHZpZGVvIGZyb20sIG1heWJlLCB0d28gbW9udGhzIGFnby4gSSBmb3VuZCBvdXQgdG9uaWdodCB0aGF0IHRoZQpUaWdlciBpcyB0aGUgc2FtZSBjYXIgdGhhdCBvbmNlIGJlbG9uZ2VkIHRvIGEgZnJpZW5kIG9mIG1pbmUgYW5kIEFsIEpvaG5zb25zCnRoYXQgSSBmaXJzdCBzYXcgYW5kIHBob3RvZ3JhcGhlZCAyMiBvciBtb3JlIHllYXJzIGFnbywBMAEBAQE- Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 04:20:21 -0700 From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Shelby-Powered Tiger Leads this Euro Rally Lineup | Petrolicious Some of you remembers this video from, maybe, two months ago. I found out tonight that the Tiger is the same car that once belonged to a friend of mine and Al Johnsons that I first saw and photographed 22 or more years ago, I just didn't recognize it from the video. From Rhode Island, it was shipped to South Africa to our friends brother, who apparently sold it to someone there, who brought it with them when they moved to California, where upon they sold it on eBay to the present owner in CT six years ago. Dr. Abrahams mentions that other than the different motor, this car is original. You'll notice that the shifter is a Hurst, and that most of the interior is black, but the carpeting is blue, both items that the car exhibited when our friend owned it and I photographed it years ago. Rande Bellman Shelby-Powered Tiger Leads this Euro Rally Lineup | Petr... As a kid growing up near Detroit, Mr. Hans Abrahams was surrounded by American muscle cars. His father, however, hailed from Britain and introduced young Hans ... View on Petrolicious - Classic car videos and photo essays. Drive tastefully. Petrolicious - Classic car videos and photo essays. Driv... Petrolicious - Sharing the passion for vintage cars, classic cars, and other interesting machines. View on www.petrolicious.com Preview by Yahoo _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 26 07:28:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D11D2580881 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 07:28:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (fed1rmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7CF258075D for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 07:28:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo306 ([68.230.241.174]) by fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140726132836.KNTT28942.fed1rmfepo203.cox.net@fed1rmimpo306> for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 09:28:36 -0400 Received: from [10.242.204.79] ([174.236.7.4]) by fed1rmimpo306 with cox id X1UQ1o00C05D5cm011UTng; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 09:28:36 -0400 a=4gMQe8Wgewfl6nQ1/N6A1g==:17 a=27Gu5KJdUXAA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=a-z5AtPmAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=XdBsg9XSMfUvwjQCycMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=4gMQe8Wgewfl6nQ1/N6A1g==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (PLAIN) smtp.auth=twojohnsons@cox.net References: From: Al Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 09:28:22 -0400 To: snakebit289 Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Way back when, that same car had 2 4-barrel Carters that looked and ran sweeeeeet! Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 26, 2014, at 7:20 AM, snakebit289 wrote: > > Shelby-Powered Tiger Leads this Euro Rally Lineup | Petrolicious > > Some of you > remembers this video from, maybe, two months ago. I found out tonight that the > Tiger is the same car that once belonged to a friend of mine and Al Johnsons > that I first saw and photographed 22 or more years ago, I just didn't > recognize it from the video. From Rhode Island, it was shipped to South Africa > to our friends brother, who apparently sold it to someone there, who brought > it with them when they moved to California, where upon they sold it on eBay to > the present owner in CT six years ago. Dr. Abrahams mentions that other than > the different motor, this car is original. You'll notice that the shifter is a > Hurst, and that most of the interior is black, but the carpeting is blue, both > items that the car exhibited when our friend owned it and I photographed it > years ago. > Rande Bellman > > > > Shelby-Powered Tiger Leads this > Euro > Rally Lineup | Petr... > As a kid growing up near Detroit, Mr. Hans > Abrahams was > surrounded by American muscle cars. His father, however, hailed > from Britain > and introduced young Hans ... > View on Petrolicious - Classic car videos and > photo essays. Drive tastefully. > > > Petrolicious - Classic car > videos and photo essays. Driv... > Petrolicious - Sharing the passion for > vintage cars, classic cars, and other interesting machines. > View on > www.petrolicious.com Preview by Yahoo > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/twojohnsons@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 26 14:27:18 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 980BA25808BA for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:27:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from txofep02.suddenlink.net (txofep02.suddenlink.net [208.180.40.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D073258087A for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 14:26:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Roscrea ([74.196.108.150]) by txofep02.suddenlink.net (InterMail vM.8.04.01.08 201-2343-100-153-20121108) with ESMTP id <20140726202721.UFZJ21350.txofep02.suddenlink.net@Roscrea>; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:27:21 -0500 From: "Jerry Mo Christopherson" To: "'snakebit289'" , References: <1406373621.2485.YahooMailNeo@web162706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:26:45 -0500 Thread-Index: AQH3w0Y/qshXAzpo+FF526oyW9n+IZtil+gA Content-Language: en-us a=xzW3HwPJiLYA:10 a=VPHkNMUpP2kA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=8LaAqv5HAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=a-z5AtPmAAAA:8 a=oUE1noxDUJuMBqZdldIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uQbmN8zQqXIA:10 a=gPGHqaX6uacA:10 Subject: Re: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I noticed that this particular Tiger was built on the same date as mine (April 1,1965), however it was registered as a 1966 model, where mine is 1965, can someone enlighten me? Jerry Christopherson 9473187 -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of snakebit289 Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 6:20 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified Shelby-Powered Tiger Leads this Euro Rally Lineup | Petrolicious Some of you remembers this video from, maybe, two months ago. I found out tonight that the Tiger is the same car that once belonged to a friend of mine and Al Johnsons that I first saw and photographed 22 or more years ago, I just didn't recognize it from the video. From Rhode Island, it was shipped to South Africa to our friends brother, who apparently sold it to someone there, who brought it with them when they moved to California, where upon they sold it on eBay to the present owner in CT six years ago. Dr. Abrahams mentions that other than the different motor, this car is original. You'll notice that the shifter is a Hurst, and that most of the interior is black, but the carpeting is blue, both items that the car exhibited when our friend owned it and I photographed it years ago. Rande Bellman Shelby-Powered Tiger Leads this Euro Rally Lineup | Petr... As a kid growing up near Detroit, Mr. Hans Abrahams was surrounded by American muscle cars. His father, however, hailed from Britain and introduced young Hans ... View on Petrolicious - Classic car videos and photo essays. Drive tastefully. Petrolicious - Classic car videos and photo essays. Driv... Petrolicious - Sharing the passion for vintage cars, classic cars, and other interesting machines. View on www.petrolicious.com Preview by Yahoo _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jcmc2006@suddenlink.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 26 16:14:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCDDD2580988 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 16:14:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm42-vm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm42-vm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0C725808CB for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 16:14:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm42.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jul 2014 22:14:25 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.242] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jul 2014 22:14:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1051.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Jul 2014 22:14:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 37907 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Jul 2014 22:14:25 -0000 s=s1024; t=1406412865; bh=r14+V82aEL649ZUprNLPm2Fhv4UnuTpxMJw0rZq/eTE=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4QVStDcEiTBLJRpwbRkSAthIVHnSI65Mu8Uu94mPEJNmtJBo0yS5wVWR5NZIZfol+cWDD7z+Xv6HnICtQm96ARovaluvLOFuV/KAFe8Ph3d9mE8Rlw0j73MSdyqWpxK5M0eKXtRmTg9Q12QwpuleFJYB/v4iUzgz86B04/PECCY= Gn9PyvLJgkBp_yD2nVQA_INSxlmKw_2HeIgLqwZvXp7nZzzQZlJrivWpB05y lsR8.7MeCxLxbUp8v_jOxqehEx1UPJ6ZgaNvcF1SBmjBz3083jwh7WzS6xq_ y1k8357mDX_.GDOF9NER8bd0CurFicYI4N8phSM9SX0mdyIKksr8JZhkuBP_ AEe3GfGDhRcjRBPiSkIASPnGyxv34Pv8UhqsnvEApYsEJtZsZMziQgp.vTHq qvhyjFrf9iviBB9coAFe.QctVxgKdFcjBqHGnuf6eQZmMckxHhXmYT.WKFG. crjo2XFWc4iPyGXbZnHwQLEFZQ6zi5AbXGoJ5One.6eDj_hWwHad48Lton0G XFWcY5WkAAppb9j8sKJTHYt6CzijJCKdltct3a5Ex9.KBaIhnaE6hGvkXtBD qdSQc2vl_O2507en_fqGnRKmWB2fRNGmuw77VlNaRwpzeYm0FMFaFqPbpsTw - Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162703.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:14:25 PDT SmVycnksCgpJZiB3ZSdyZSBhc2tpbmcgYWJvdXQgdGhlIGJsdWUgVGlnZXIgaW4gdGhlIHZpZGVvIHRoYXQgd2FzIGZpbG1lZCB3aXRoIHRoZSBWb2x2byBhbmQgTUdCLCB0aGUgVGlnZXIgaXMgYSBCMzgyMCwgc28gdGhlwqAgYnVpbGQgZGF0ZSB3b3VsZCBoYXZlIGJlZW4gcm91Z2hseSBBdWd1c3QgMTk2NSBvciBsYXRlciwgYW5kIG1hbnkgVGlnZXJzIHdlcmUgdGl0bGVkIGFjY29yZGluZyB0byB3aGF0IHRoZWlyIHNvbGQgZGF0ZSB3YXMuIE1pbmUgaXMgYSBJQSBudW1iZXIgNDgsIGFuZCBpdCB3YXMgdGkBMAEBAQE- Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 15:14:25 -0700 From: snakebit289 To: Jerry Christopherson-TAC TX , "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] CT Tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jerry, If we're asking about the blue Tiger in the video that was filmed with the Volvo and MGB, the Tiger is a B3820, so the build date would have been roughly August 1965 or later, and many Tigers were titled according to what their sold date was. Mine is a IA number 48, and it was titled as a 1966. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 26 17:28:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF4B2580BD2 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 17:28:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBBA925802EE for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 17:28:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.74]) by qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id XBTQ1o0051c6gX854BUTMn; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:28:27 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-601v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.50.125]) by omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id XBUT1o00R2i4P9N3jBUTfN; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:28:27 +0000 Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:28:27 +0000 (UTC) From: genepadgett@comcast.net To: Jerry Mo Christopherson References: <1406373621.2485.YahooMailNeo@web162706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <000601cfa90f$eb6b6000$c2422000$@suddenlink.net> (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: CT Tiger - past owner identified Thread-Index: AQH3w0Y/qshXAzpo+FF526oyW9n+IZtil+gAxP+/0IA= s=q20140121; t=1406417307; bh=u0TmewLKkFEqwUPar1QgtZw8OFZwVeZiFw32J5kGUJY=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=p9AhtpNjWAXKE8oIehKifq08UKNrQnR7dbVSjzEBAfN7CljaYnCUHcMosUhrz6Lo2 RmH/2D2cmnFKtD9uO0Eq5WgRcSyD3uW1H3imp285/hy4SMY5e98dw99USekYI2Fxgc u8PggPRZYxsc0cOeekjufA/HI3rMiZNu4a5vwCsv7spD9OGBQBpvLmxQA7Jo5xH6/0 7yyY7v6tibJOnfM21eTPy6feb9K8hmf5gcfx4Ys07onUohzzi8TZ3oFIpPo0xQ+PcM jJ0Dvg3SHomXE514J0V9LBO2bRD7GtEB9PXCxbY0E0CiK1fA3tRJvM7fZliL5wjDsG 6RQ1xgg6GR6fA== Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Jerry, it seems to have been pretty common practice back in the 60's to register the car year as the year it was sold. I bought my Mark IA new from a dealer in October 1967 and it was registered as a 1967 model. I have heard similar stories from other Tiger owners over the years. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Mo Christopherson" To: "snakebit289" , tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 3:26:45 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified I noticed that this particular Tiger was built on the same date as mine (April 1,1965), however it was registered as a 1966 model, where mine is 1965, can someone enlighten me? Jerry Christopherson 9473187 -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of snakebit289 Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 6:20 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified Shelby-Powered Tiger Leads this Euro Rally Lineup | Petrolicious Some of you remembers this video from, maybe, two months ago. I found out tonight that the Tiger is the same car that once belonged to a friend of mine and Al Johnsons that I first saw and photographed 22 or more years ago, I just didn't recognize it from the video. From Rhode Island, it was shipped to South Africa to our friends brother, who apparently sold it to someone there, who brought it with them when they moved to California, where upon they sold it on eBay to the present owner in CT six years ago. Dr. Abrahams mentions that other than the different motor, this car is original. You'll notice that the shifter is a Hurst, and that most of the interior is black, but the carpeting is blue, both items that the car exhibited when our friend owned it and I photographed it years ago. Rande Bellman Shelby-Powered Tiger Leads this Euro Rally Lineup | Petr... As a kid growing up near Detroit, Mr. Hans Abrahams was surrounded by American muscle cars. His father, however, hailed from Britain and introduced young Hans ... 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View on www.petrolicious.com Preview by Yahoo _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jcmc2006@suddenlink.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/genepadgett@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 26 19:32:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F782580BD9 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:32:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0681425802EB for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:32:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id XD2w1o0020vp7WLA2DZ3Pd; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 01:33:03 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-311v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.177.66]) by omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id XDZ21o01b1SLFBW8RDZ21X; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 01:33:03 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 01:33:02 +0000 (UTC) From: Gary Winblad To: genepadgett@comcast.net References: <1406373621.2485.YahooMailNeo@web162706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <000601cfa90f$eb6b6000$c2422000$@suddenlink.net> <1221473444.703458.1406417307387.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Thread-Topic: CT Tiger - past owner identified Thread-Index: AQH3w0Y/qshXAzpo+FF526oyW9n+IZtil+gAxP+/0IBFgiitHw== s=q20140121; t=1406424783; bh=7WYbNp9fyMW0JAp657BUcV+K7Y/ZS5JmeRTSr9XqtFg=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=NIMVJTKrK96n1Vx4mUWzWyLf0StK4xffBJZSq1TbBzxBFZeYrJgDpOHjLRNdjStAG hoDGgT/KPA4U0WCQgjME34hdM7/aYKCrQ9U2J7exVNQwJ2UkjHt+Tq3q52w7dMZhWv /nv2Ogi6QS0JOCa/iGlPdPxkKC8WdY31xS6PuWj3d2yRiR+XUD691ctrsDlOra7k1T WyKNVXtm6Qaz4a/aqyXnHq+9zfCmN3tum8YYHw4OoZLs87zBGxmbNkqUsBsQujfS26 c8GX2N0hBSMdoCnHcdoAHaLx2xv0e2Uade6ZWIbJo/4W0RfHSqZ+OwrlBlHk9P80Ot 3qy7yzWlzM/UA== Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net YES. And it is well known that when the Tigers came in on the boats, they were just parked in a warehouse, newer ones got in front of the older ones. When the dealers ordered a red one, they just pulled the one closest to the door... Lots of them got "delayed" in the back. And, in the 60's, foreign cars never were sold as a particular year model like the american cars. A '65 Tiger was just a Sunbeam Tiger, just like a '66. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: genepadgett@comcast.net To: Jerry Mo Christopherson Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 23:28:27 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified Jerry, it seems to have been pretty common practice back in the 60's to register the car year as the year it was sold. I bought my Mark IA new from a dealer in October 1967 and it was registered as a 1967 model. I have heard similar stories from other Tiger owners over the years. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Mo Christopherson" To: "snakebit289" , tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 3:26:45 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified I noticed that this particular Tiger was built on the same date as mine (April 1,1965), however it was registered as a 1966 model, where mine is 1965, can someone enlighten me? Jerry Christopherson 9473187 -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of snakebit289 Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 6:20 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified Shelby-Powered Tiger Leads this Euro Rally Lineup | Petrolicious Some of you remembers this video from, maybe, two months ago. I found out tonight that the Tiger is the same car that once belonged to a friend of mine and Al Johnsons that I first saw and photographed 22 or more years ago, I just didn't recognize it from the video. From Rhode Island, it was shipped to South Africa to our friends brother, who apparently sold it to someone there, who brought it with them when they moved to California, where upon they sold it on eBay to the present owner in CT six years ago. Dr. Abrahams mentions that other than the different motor, this car is original. You'll notice that the shifter is a Hurst, and that most of the interior is black, but the carpeting is blue, both items that the car exhibited when our friend owned it and I photographed it years ago. Rande Bellman Shelby-Powered Tiger Leads this Euro Rally Lineup | Petr... As a kid growing up near Detroit, Mr. Hans Abrahams was surrounded by American muscle cars. His father, however, hailed from Britain and introduced young Hans ... View on Petrolicious - Classic car videos and photo essays. Drive tastefully. Petrolicious - Classic car videos and photo essays. Driv... 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View on www.petrolicious.com Preview by Yahoo _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jcmc2006@suddenlink.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/genepadgett@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 26 20:01:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802012584445 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 20:01:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE4D25807BA for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 20:01:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mbb02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mbb02.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.112]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id BCB4C702B74AB; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 22:01:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mle001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mle001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.126.196]) by mtaomg-mbb02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 849EE38000081; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 22:01:58 -0400 (EDT) From: CoolVT@aol.com Full-name: CoolVT Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 22:01:57 -0400 (EDT) To: genepadgett@comcast.net, JCMC2006@suddenlink.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1406426518; bh=CdELASv3a3wE6++W198SRXGg0rV1BK7FAM5ObabGmkY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=B5hv687xQDchefuvdcYo1JtsfzlxkKyPYEOLLGxny8cbiOaLAjYWYcrV7MFJNtV9f WwP/jGptl6o7KG3Df4LnstvHtlbD+3U7ZcNPAbIotsG4DsaiF1HmzBkfE3i+6jiCJD VIV45HAMzro4X9xQLyadJnIVFywEiW7TUa8ai3h8= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afe7053d45d96187d Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Most of the dealers had their inventory financed. My wife worked at a bank and handled this financing for a few of the dealers of foreign cars.....MG's, Austins, etc. When the new American cars came out, the foreign car dealers changed the model year of all their cars in inventory( to the next model year). The bank changed it's paperwork to coincide with that change. My 65 produced car is also titled as a 1966. Mark L In a message dated 7/26/2014 7:28:43 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, genepadgett@comcast.net writes: Jerry, it seems to have been pretty common practice back in the 60's to register the car year as the year it was sold. I bought my Mark IA new from a dealer in October 1967 and it was registered as a 1967 model. I have heard similar stories from other Tiger owners over the years. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Mo Christopherson" To: "snakebit289" , tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 3:26:45 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified I noticed that this particular Tiger was built on the same date as mine (April 1,1965), however it was registered as a 1966 model, where mine is 1965, can someone enlighten me? Jerry Christopherson 9473187 -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of snakebit289 Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 6:20 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified Shelby-Powered Tiger Leads this Euro Rally Lineup | Petrolicious Some of you remembers this video from, maybe, two months ago. I found out tonight that the Tiger is the same car that once belonged to a friend of mine and Al Johnsons that I first saw and photographed 22 or more years ago, I just didn't recognize it from the video. From Rhode Island, it was shipped to South Africa to our friends brother, who apparently sold it to someone there, who brought it with them when they moved to California, where upon they sold it on eBay to the present owner in CT six years ago. Dr. Abrahams mentions that other than the different motor, this car is original. You'll notice that the shifter is a Hurst, and that most of the interior is black, but the carpeting is blue, both items that the car exhibited when our friend owned it and I photographed it years ago. Rande Bellman Shelby-Powered Tiger Leads this Euro Rally Lineup | Petr... As a kid growing up near Detroit, Mr. Hans Abrahams was surrounded by American muscle cars. His father, however, hailed from Britain and introduced young Hans ... View on Petrolicious - Classic car videos and photo essays. Drive tastefully. Petrolicious - Classic car videos and photo essays. Driv... 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View on www.petrolicious.com Preview by Yahoo _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jcmc2006@suddenlink.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/genepadgett@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 26 20:32:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB042584B44 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 20:32:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f172.google.com (mail-vc0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831162580BD9 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 20:32:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id im17so9552328vcb.3 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:32:45 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=DXdWgL7gOwQQVHDCxYO2QVjeG2RpmMwOLcayg7JLfw0=; b=HRef2P+6lQCgYzaFFYvMfHukuEwvzJX3SY83H9DhDrFc/8Pnjebm+P9wzkgy/PoukM pfy3sSWVC/ifMdD7z7e5wDxyLdFHM23RV3ae2XZX0jEzgOCwC+DCrgRtpJ/QceUlqUOk tXa68Wfce9pGxMthRoEVTrEwnqcGrdHvS+KHKMMyIXtH5QAxzRMdU/xy8+TyJb1bYtQY UNnVmYIo6B1VwWA2o+cZvKBpbrbPYZeYcelzOw+jWK/M6cwZTY1NVKl0Mhvg+TQ9Cwii I5iVTFQpibuYsggY+wmBgWtRCdK+YiX4LmWJkuZidZU/hfsO2D80/I98ny6esnyMePKF w/+Q== m13mr1716595vdg.69.1406428365520; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:32:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.238.74 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 19:32:45 -0700 (PDT) References: <1406373621.2485.YahooMailNeo@web162706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <000601cfa90f$eb6b6000$c2422000$@suddenlink.net> <1221473444.703458.1406417307387.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 22:32:45 -0400 From: Owain Lloyd To: "genepadgett@comcast.net" Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Yep. My dec 65 built tiger is registered 67 too. Pretty cool you bought it new. How many owners still own a tiger they bought new I wonder. What a story. On Saturday, July 26, 2014, wrote: > Jerry, it seems to have been pretty common practice back in the 60's to > register the car year as the year it was sold. I bought my Mark IA new from > a dealer in October 1967 and it was registered as a 1967 model. I have > heard similar stories from other Tiger owners over the years. > > Gene > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jerry Mo Christopherson" > > To: "snakebit289" >, > tigers@autox.team.net > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 3:26:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified > > I noticed that this particular Tiger was built on the same date as mine > (April 1,1965), however it was registered as a 1966 model, where mine is > 1965, can someone enlighten me? > > Jerry Christopherson > 9473187 > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net ] On > Behalf Of snakebit289 > Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 6:20 AM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified > > Shelby-Powered Tiger Leads this Euro Rally Lineup | Petrolicious > > Some of you > remembers this video from, maybe, two months ago. I found out tonight that > the Tiger is the same car that once belonged to a friend of mine and Al > Johnsons that I first saw and photographed 22 or more years ago, I just > didn't recognize it from the video. From Rhode Island, it was shipped to > South Africa to our friends brother, who apparently sold it to someone > there, who brought it with them when they moved to California, where upon > they sold it on eBay to the present owner in CT six years ago. Dr. Abrahams > mentions that other than the different motor, this car is original. You'll > notice that the shifter is a Hurst, and that most of the interior is black, > but the carpeting is blue, both items that the car exhibited when our > friend > owned it and I photographed it years ago. > Rande Bellman > > > > Shelby-Powered Tiger Leads this > Euro > Rally Lineup | Petr... > As a kid growing up near Detroit, Mr. Hans Abrahams was surrounded by > American muscle cars. His father, however, hailed from Britain and > introduced young Hans ... > View on Petrolicious - Classic car videos and photo essays. Drive > tastefully. > > > Petrolicious - Classic car > videos and photo essays. Driv... > Petrolicious - Sharing the passion for > vintage cars, classic cars, and other interesting machines. > View on > www.petrolicious.com Preview by Yahoo > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jcmc2006@suddenlink.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/genepadgett@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Jul 26 21:03:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEEB02584BA6 for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 21:03:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70622584B6E for ; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 21:02:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from user1PC ([unknown] [108.47.32.37]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N9C008A2OGDH970@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Sat, 26 Jul 2014 22:02:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Tom Witt" To: References: <1406373621.2485.YahooMailNeo@web162706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <000601cfa90f$eb6b6000$c2422000$@suddenlink.net> <1221473444.703458.1406417307387.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 20:02:30 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net >>>When the new American cars came out, the foreign car dealers changed >>>the model year of all their cars in inventory( to the next model >>>year).<<< And for some (here in Calif.) it was a dreadful thing. There was a time when California required all cars 1966 and newer to pass a biannual smog test. So, I'm sure there were many "1965" Tigers that got titled as 1966 (or maybe even 1967) and required testing. In my case I had one of the last Volvo 544's made. After 1965 they never made that model. But, under the same situation it was titled as a 1966 and subjected to the smog test. I find it ironic too because as far as I understand, foreign cars were given until 1967 to meet USA standards. So, at a later date the owner was held to standards that the manufacture didn't have to meet at the time of construction. Go figure. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 06:49:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E4F82584B17 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:49:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (fed1rmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37EFB2580788 for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 06:49:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo110 ([68.230.241.159]) by fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140727124931.HSNB5235.fed1rmfepo102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo110> for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 08:49:31 -0400 Received: from laptop ([68.229.224.237]) by fed1rmimpo110 with cox id XQpW1o00657wa9801QpWof; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 08:49:31 -0400 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:17 a=27Gu5KJdUXAA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=8LaAqv5HAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=a-z5AtPmAAAA:8 a=-N8WF8RTI6AOeY8UfOsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=uQbmN8zQqXIA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=gPGHqaX6uacA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=NevRRZjOVOp1dU_U:21 a=b4H_SNWtmpJ1RwZh:21 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=awtiger@cox.net From: "Andy Walker" To: , "'Jerry Mo Christopherson'" References: <1406373621.2485.YahooMailNeo@web162706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <000601cfa90f$eb6b6000$c2422000$@suddenlink.net> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 07:49:29 -0500 Thread-Index: AQH3w0Y/qshXAzpo+FF526oyW9n+IQJlwYrmAjJVbTSbPuqukA== Content-Language: en-us Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Gene, et al: Same thing happened with my Tiger. The car was built squarely withing the 1966 model year production, but wasn't sold new until '67. Therefore, it carries "1967" on its title. Andy Walker Edmond, OK -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of genepadgett@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 6:28 PM To: Jerry Mo Christopherson Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified Jerry, it seems to have been pretty common practice back in the 60's to register the car year as the year it was sold. I bought my Mark IA new from a dealer in October 1967 and it was registered as a 1967 model. I have heard similar stories from other Tiger owners over the years. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry Mo Christopherson" To: "snakebit289" , tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 3:26:45 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified I noticed that this particular Tiger was built on the same date as mine (April 1,1965), however it was registered as a 1966 model, where mine is 1965, can someone enlighten me? Jerry Christopherson 9473187 -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of snakebit289 Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 6:20 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] CT Tiger - past owner identified Shelby-Powered Tiger Leads this Euro Rally Lineup | Petrolicious Some of you remembers this video from, maybe, two months ago. I found out tonight that the Tiger is the same car that once belonged to a friend of mine and Al Johnsons that I first saw and photographed 22 or more years ago, I just didn't recognize it from the video. From Rhode Island, it was shipped to South Africa to our friends brother, who apparently sold it to someone there, who brought it with them when they moved to California, where upon they sold it on eBay to the present owner in CT six years ago. Dr. Abrahams mentions that other than the different motor, this car is original. You'll notice that the shifter is a Hurst, and that most of the interior is black, but the carpeting is blue, both items that the car exhibited when our friend owned it and I photographed it years ago. Rande Bellman Shelby-Powered Tiger Leads this Euro Rally Lineup | Petr... As a kid growing up near Detroit, Mr. Hans Abrahams was surrounded by American muscle cars. His father, however, hailed from Britain and introduced young Hans ... View on Petrolicious - Classic car videos and photo essays. Drive tastefully. Petrolicious - Classic car videos and photo essays. Driv... 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O_pnLRpZp83RvEcaAC9PvrtAWpWufQzZwgOUfFV1OFop2b0lpZxhSZucJUjf gum2.QVzCfJXhO9EkQxepMcEP9vI7QtK377IoOLG.LsM- Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 09:50:05 PDT TWF5YmUgdGhpcyBpbmZvcm1hdGlvbiBoYXNuJ3QgcmVhY2hlZCB0aGUgdXNlciBncm91cCB5ZXQsIGJ1dCB0aGUgVGlnZXIgaW4gdGhlIHZpZGVvIHdhcyBhIEIzODIwIChJQSksIG1lYW5pbmcgcHJvYmFibHkgYnVpbHTCoCBpbiBBdWd1c3QgMTk2NSBvciBsYXRlciggSSBkb24ndCBoYXZlIHRoZSBWSU4geWV0KS4gTGlrZSBteSBvd24gVGlnZXIgSUEgIzQ4LCBpdCB3b3VsZCB0aHVzIGJlIG11Y2ggbW9yZSBsaWtlbHkgdG8gYmUgY29uc2lkZXJlZCB0aGUgbmV4dCBtb2RlbCB5ZWFyIGJ5IGxvY2FsIHRyYW4BMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 09:50:05 -0700 From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] CT Tiger in video Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Maybe this information hasn't reached the user group yet, but the Tiger in the video was a B3820 (IA), meaning probably built in August 1965 or later( I don't have the VIN yet). Like my own Tiger IA #48, it would thus be much more likely to be considered the next model year by local transportation municipal offices(DMV's). Please correct me, but isn't Jerry's car a B9470 (Mark I)? Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 11:21:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E2AB2584CAD for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:21:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB7A2584C5D for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 11:20:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [76.179.167.4] ([76.179.167.4:64505] helo=[192.168.1.104]) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id C0/97-27317-70535D35; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 17:21:11 +0000 Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 13:21:03 -0400 From: Tod Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Registration Year Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All: My Tiger came off the line at the end of August 1966, near the end of the Tiger IA run. I bought it in the middle of October, 1966. When I went to the dealer to order it, I chose Midnight Blue for the color. A day or two later, the dealer called to inform me that, if I wanted Midnight Blue, I would have to wait six weeks, since the first available was on the boat from England. I could, however, have either white or Forest Green, so I chose Green. When I got it, it was registered as a 1987 model. My recollection is that it had something to do with NY state declaring it so due to the Detroit model changeover. The point is that I think different states did different things. My car also arrived covered with cosmoline, a coating that was applied at the factory to protect the paint on the trip over the pond, often times above deck, I was told. There were still traces of the stuff in the cracks and crevices when I finally had it stripped and repainted in 2001! I also recollect being told by several folks that my car, and many others, was unloaded on the docks and parked outside in Long Island City. Perhaps in other ports they had warehouses, but it probably would have been unusual. At the shop where I had my car repainted, an Aussie mechanic took me aside and said, "Do you know you have a very rare Tiger, it's a Tiger II and they only made a few hundred of them!" It took me a while to explain to him that, just because it was registered as a '67, that didn't make it a Tiger II. I also told him that I did own a Tiger II that had been rolled, back in the 70's. I parted it out, not knowing that the wheel trim might have paid a good portion of the tuition for one of my daughters had I held onto it. Somewhere out there, there is a '36 Ford pickup with a 289 Ford and a Tiger air cleaner. Coulda, shoulda, woulda! But, then again, I sold the oil cooler off it a few years ago for more than I paid for it. Cheers, Tod B382002384LRXFE TAC864 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Jul 27 14:00:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36A842584D0C for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 14:00:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm27.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm27.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.90]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD26258070B for ; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 13:59:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.100.113] by nm27.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jul 2014 20:00:00 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.12] by tm104.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jul 2014 20:00:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1012.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Jul 2014 20:00:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 94306 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Jul 2014 20:00:00 -0000 s=s1024; t=1406491200; bh=O79aifu9pg6DGTdcDMknm8hiBwJX8bSaxBxT+M+6zfU=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fk8+CpL2D4s25oHEA3rXvHsIBm81IzeMqJwoYz1hImnDSjBLxAJVwqVEYVc+bi9cFukfw2kjDlDY4wcwVSP1zerB++X/DLzTGm0THdysRXkRqOVAjzhPKjP4sD+4MlrIENuZp3k3Jqrn/X0Mj9Ac71bg6AMUZ9Sm40gxY9Lcdng= shU4MfTxOdtwGLAAaXSwlKezy3cB9h66FEpkQvt.IbBw.Py5qWipjYwkxIxM RAAizSo5SQE9SPksCDHPx_2E.vQ1vhTDp1Bi9Z8gXUn_RxN3LQZMDag3odRs IXLTPM6WI73hvVhdmBbPFFU1pgs0.haFkBdaqJ8CuOv7o42cFtgOdenr1hJN AkHNtjMXg0UBFSi3fxSKq0g6vcexP3wV3iI1veaA3RuhQ1uBM41FATqFXHfC eGKIhMsGHP8kHhesgaI0REwx.Mq7_kqGdSktEluXzE1XG85eTML8t2lvNNK4 96_4viuuasbh6mIcfNApDoXCYpIfhWdE5yK3HqHZuoHM30PgRF.2J3ucIbNV WhaunKgpIFfqjGjXbLJ1QMQ7QvcRcFt6nOVXRJ3IxEVBR8MuDKgCdFNpgA9_ VnnJmdB1FIC_sFV_C5qFdnwA1i9MW77.brOl5H2ZVunvgQp767JnF_tjW_Ld jv_27YabFINdP9vPglOV3ZlgGjii68kWjJwJ35kPp9OnLTlI7.F8x3xKIpgo ieX4UeRQcz6V85qTQ_fugRZFIfPWn_UqNvZV5V0JymaY_xNyd78TM Received: from [97.93.177.222] by web121904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:59:52 PDT IkJhY2sgaW4gdGhlIGRheSIsIG1hbnkgc3RhdGVzIHRpdGxlZC9yZWdpc3RlcmVkIHZlaGljbGVzIGJhc2VkIG9uIHRoZSB5ZWFyIGluIHdoaWNoIHRoZSBjYXIgd2FzIHNvbGQgdG8gdGhlIG9yaWdpbmFsIGN1c3RvbWVyLiBJdCBoYWQgbm90aGluZyB0byBkbyB3aXRoIHRoZSBtb2RlbCB5ZWFyIGFzIGRlZmluZWQgYnkgdGhlIG1hbnVmYWN0dXJlciBvciBmZWRlcmFsIHN0YW5kYXJkcy7CoAoKCgpCZXN0IHJlZ2FyZHMsClN0ZXBoZW4gV2F5YnJpZ2h0CgoKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18BMAEBAQE- References: <53D534FF.9050205@roadrunner.com> <1406491143.7954.YahooMailNeo@web121905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 12:59:52 -0700 From: Stephen Waybright To: Tod Brown , "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Registration Year Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net "Back in the day", many states titled/registered vehicles based on the year in which the car was sold to the original customer. It had nothing to do with the model year as defined by the manufacturer or federal standards. Best regards, Stephen Waybright ________________________________ From: Tod Brown To: Tigers@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Registration Year Hi All: My Tiger came off the line at the end of August 1966, near the end of the Tiger IA run. I bought it in the middle of October, 1966. When I went to the dealer to order it, I chose Midnight Blue for the color. A day or two later, the dealer called to inform me that, if I wanted Midnight Blue, I would have to wait six weeks, since the first available was on the boat from England. I could, however, have either white or Forest Green, so I chose Green. When I got it, it was registered as a 1987 model. My recollection is that it had something to do with NY state declaring it so due to the Detroit model changeover. The point is that I think different states did different things. My car also arrived covered with cosmoline, a coating that was applied at the factory to protect the paint on the trip over the pond, often times above deck, I was told. There were still traces of the stuff in the cracks and crevices when I finally had it stripped and repainted in 2001! I also recollect being told by several folks that my car, and many others, was unloaded on the docks and parked outside in Long Island City. Perhaps in other ports they had warehouses, but it probably would have been unusual. At the shop where I had my car repainted, an Aussie mechanic took me aside and said, "Do you know you have a very rare Tiger, it's a Tiger II and they only made a few hundred of them!" It took me a while to explain to him that, just because it was registered as a '67, that didn't make it a Tiger II. I also told him that I did own a Tiger II that had been rolled, back in the 70's. I parted it out, not knowing that the wheel trim might have paid a good portion of the tuition for one of my daughters had I held onto it. Somewhere out there, there is a '36 Ford pickup with a 289 Ford and a Tiger air cleaner. Coulda, shoulda, woulda! But, then again, I sold the oil cooler off it a few years ago for more than I paid for it. Cheers, Tod B382002384LRXFE TAC864 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/gswaybright@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jul 29 12:51:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC2F9258477D for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 12:51:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2862025805BD for ; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 12:50:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jul 2014 18:51:23 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.129] by nm31.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jul 2014 18:48:29 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.174] by tm17.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jul 2014 18:48:29 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.226] by tm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jul 2014 18:48:29 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1035.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Jul 2014 18:48:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 72807 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Jul 2014 18:48:29 -0000 s=s1024; t=1406659709; bh=heMKEZAgg/vpSG7Iu+99+cpTqoyh351r+F9c9vuDCsA=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=I8nUzKix3PTRnTYyp0cQrxUYrPjcsAIdKuMJ0dJSmI+3KlsrlvxLNbS6KE7EAXkbzWUbNyZWV6iYs5m6hdWofY9pmAqd44J+yjJAG2PrZ1ZcrngIbKjfEihbx2cQk9OWZzqyMoPGaw68KJSpqHcRuh5vM2X5ahm6YM1il+YG4wo= U4Qb1aypRsLIe2qD4hG4gAxIfzPnr8AgxBdmjil_5GIQcygBpiTfhuPBPk6s 3RRnUDJIm0kzX.ezQGZ9gTUfdWVKgb04iDkoOUcu9oTX0NlBN.P_z3emWTsK TPl.nhrnfEVk6VAg7Zp6c7nqVkOTAlqhiSbJrjtydYQ.6vWibH9uBVx.RtAq BhU4Kym4of.CN4X_3t6nzxYtEqWY2lhjuTJC5co9CWQ4JNulE1si77qWWExX 5tEP8kml7rjZ.2HRs21C.Vqe80mpheswVHOThIi6Acz_OGCOVkscRvwQWEQq t7v7k5IzfL4_V4py.wf_M0guzXtZA3C2hgBOjUNy.q.2YzZSRI4AKwfTaZZl eA67SW6.SNH3kADLOQRBSEruuNM0k2JQdhh02N7O4AMLUbkYBWGnIGLORVU6 c.bF6H7Qitb6Aadl4v88LT7_Ohf6WcMiiDJQcxwHYYgtryBMIeLJ9A30SNAZ V2F4CsfyOVsh6R1l7PTCtJYWWwuCmtWd1Rnhog6o8NoIUVpbHTR95uslet46 3h8NdVdqJQ4vAk7qagfEiwXiq_pbe5bjX6jFMPT8QD4J68bro4luOO6I_yvX hQed9.ypXsH0wlu9E8Lgs Received: from [162.251.190.138] by web141104.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 11:48:29 PDT QW1lcmljYW4gQWlybGluZSdzIG1hZ2F6aW5lIGNvbnRhaW5zIGFuIGFydGljbGUgcmVnYXJkaW5nIGhpc3RvcmljYWwgaW50ZXJlc3QgaW4gY29udmVydGlibGVzIChjYXJzKSBhbmQgdGhlIGRlY2xpbmluZyBudW1iZXIgb2YgYXV0byBtYWtlcnMgb2ZmZXJpbmcgdGhlbS4gQSBudW1iZXIgb2YgbWFrZXMvbW9kZWxzIGFyZSBtZW50aW9uZWQgYWxvbmcgd2l0aCB0aGUgVGlnZXIuIEJ1dCBhIGhhbGYgcGFnZSBpbGx1c3RyYXRpb24gb2YgYSByZWQgVGlnZXIgd2FzIGNob3NlbiB0byBoZWFkbGluZSB0aGUgYXIBMAEBAQE- References: <496693324.1654226.1400814683361.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <1E85241A0F664214B2BEDC7345B13F2A@ronpc1> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 11:48:29 -0700 From: Terry Packer To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tiger in Print Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net American Airline's magazine contains an article regarding historical interest in convertibles (cars) and the declining number of auto makers offering them. A number of makes/models are mentioned along with the Tiger. But a half page illustration of a red Tiger was chosen to headline the article. For anyone interested, here's a link. Terry Packer 9470018 http://hub.aa.com/en/aw/end-of-an-era _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jul 30 17:13:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5335E2584A9E for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 17:13:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108D9258067F for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 17:13:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ownerHP ([unknown] [98.117.211.220]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N9J00K3WSJD06G0@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:14:02 -0500 (CDT) From: "Clyde McLaughlin" To: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 19:14:04 -0400 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac+sS5dZAjpwtTMATEuWy9TBG1/z7Q== Subject: [Tigers] tiger article Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for forwarding this article, it was good, clyde _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 31 05:42:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B316325807C4 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 05:42:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1lp0139.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.139]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B062580459 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 05:41:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLUPR06MB641.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.141.208.14) by BLUPR06MB643.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.141.208.19) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.995.14; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 11:42:17 +0000 Received: from BLUPR06MB641.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.208.14]) by BLUPR06MB641.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.208.14]) with mapi id 15.00.0995.014; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 11:42:17 +0000 From: Larry Wright To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: American Airlines... 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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Pretty sure that's an aftermarket hardtop. -----Original Message----- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2014 11:48:29 -0700 From: Terry Packer To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tiger in Print <<>> _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Jul 31 14:56:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A213A2584FD7 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:56:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE942580412 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:53:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id rd3so4364153pab.14 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 13:53:49 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=i86ouR3Tum5j2Zs8SVBsmfDD5F3J+a8MG6PDXzCHEYQ=; b=ewXpwTydUZnh5xw6RRfLRkk8mzrfbPRE9lURxHa/qDx0UrB4+J3H/T5tlJtW5/k7n0 KBhQEoxWAByAEsJrWEUCXxzyTIxgeXCNgtXDf+wyyv3bcRtGh/63COU8TPEoiInh7KbJ VdsPBZCRc2Ch+EaSrzZzhPzZ8KyzC7/rtsOfcDewXQ3T2YiHyd44hAentf8u7XUa2kk7 4QkK2Ixv/sWZCdL9voLzF/fLRqfRm6QbsIH2KsBxnkHp625OIYFgyhwTHYRYQy2UEnzf uVnzFtOBVOfKSOLOOByHFagbK7E00r+ylv1wLRubM97Ij3JHhs2FT9mGpxUI4ycYx+f5 6zwQ== ob6mr740097pbb.141.1406840029369; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 13:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.103.5 with HTTP; Thu, 31 Jul 2014 13:53:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 16:53:49 -0400 From: Mark Rense To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Dayton Brit Car Show Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hope to see many Tiger/Alpine owners at the Dayton show this Saturday. There will be the usual gathering at Doug Jennings' place after the festivities. Bugz _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B1452584A7B for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 11:59:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f47.google.com (mail-pa0-f47.google.com [209.85.220.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BF73258487C for ; Tue, 1 Jul 2014 11:59:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id kq14so10994141pab.34 for ; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 11:00:00 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:from:content-type:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=YBadr/M+NxxvA2Aco5912Wo46hiMcJPbuT4nrt+06Kk=; b=J3k9MwKC0Uolky1/iriA6m6EHg6j9uG+ibuZbLny+eKzC4/CC8M+LJ8tlF1hJqRu55 DYlg8FU+GHhR086tqmkZRHztOWbIeE/gGblGl7N4eaxkr24yM0DDpkJ6EPMHyXp7bd8x yjzqP92ux+s5bHUozaG7ekS3VM3yXaYYCNRFZiu+ZwgJ038WPcWuiuWEC/tLvxU4EIWu 5J0QtumFRn2oTEcXJ12W6cmyUxOhYwjzFv0bkw40Tm7AqchVyajhivXaiBk5SB0zG0C6 XAi7ZyyS8hLn35KKJmarLqIKLGk2bfE/AVWf1HO4py027Db8O54vKQNFmA1YZXsmqLUd KCxA== kv12mr61621919pab.34.1404237600379; Tue, 01 Jul 2014 11:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.238.15.133] (144.sub-174-251-192.myvzw.com. [174.251.192.144]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ox3sm33634249pbb.88.2014.07.01.10.59.59 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 01 Jul 2014 10:59:59 -0700 (PDT) From: H B Elam Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 10:59:57 -0700 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Clutch noise Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Stu, My Mk-1A had a bad/noisy throw out bearing when I bought it in 1983 in Ariz. Nursed it to Va and changed it. On a 1991 tour in Ca, found it bad again. Since it looked like my linkage was putting some pressure on the fork, I installed a return spring and have never had the issue again. Discussing this with several TAC Sr inspectors I'm told some Tigers had the spring originally. Have had no luck finding numbers for spring or bracket in Rootes parts books. Good luck! Harry Elam _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB58E2584BF7 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 12:38:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from BAY004-OMC3S17.hotmail.com (bay004-omc3s17.hotmail.com [65.54.190.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48DA12584C4F for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 12:36:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY169-W130 ([65.54.190.187]) by BAY004-OMC3S17.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Wed, 2 Jul 2014 10:08:44 -0700 From: Tiger Man To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 11:08:43 -0600 References: FILETIME=[47C35980:01CF9618] Subject: [Tigers] Rear tire rubbing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I took the tiger out the other day, its been too long. A guy at work wanted to check it out, so we went for a spin. I eventually pulled off in a dusty dirt area and let him drive. At the time when I was switching sides, I noticed that the passenger rear tire had a big rub mark on it, which was really evident by the dust everywhere else. I didn't see any evidence of it on the drivers side. The guy from work was a big guy, and I'm not exactly a lightweight either. So not sure if that was one of those one time weird things of two big guys bottoming out the suspension when I left the pavement, or if I truly have a problem. The car is running 185/70R13 on stock rims. I measured the clearance from the ground to the fender, and the center of the axle, of course I forgot to write it down, so I will have to go out and remeasure at some point. Basically I am trying to figure out, are the tires I am running a bit optimistic on height/width, or is my suspension starting to sag. There is a shop locally that does big business re-arching springs for classic cars so not sure if its time to go see them, but even if I do, not sure the would have the specs on what the springs should look like. Also the tires still have plenty of tread on them, but I know they are probably getting old enough that they need to be replaced anyway. So I will be trying to decide on a replacement tire, or the possibility of wheel/tire upgrade. But in the mean time, I'd rather not loose a tire though because of sidewall failure, as I believe my spare is original 1965 issue Anyone have any experience in that tire size, or the measurement I can use to check my suspension? Thanks, Steve _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0194E2584C6F for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 12:39:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from wavecable.net (cgbe-4.wavecable.com [24.113.32.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5489D2584C45 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 12:36:40 -0600 (MDT) a=n4nCgACdt7rXIePKTxGtBQ==:117 a=n4nCgACdt7rXIePKTxGtBQ==:17 a=lumwcP_h64UA:10 a=KCAr3pX66uQA:10 a=1DP8XHvC6M4A:10 a=cKxik7jdpHoA:10 a=iBb_pUaqAAAA:8 a=-9dKnBYLAAAA:8 a=jJrOw3FHAAAA:8 a=fKkzHbFtRKyZK-AYCU0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hsqW3Uof240A:10 a=f0eh2tqPxt0A:10 a=tu9hH1Qg6hgA:10 a=KHitSaElMJ_WcUaYVCIA:9 a=BUM2VfQfVRIA:10 a=zGlHrSWtykwA:10 a=FU4QsWcZpzsA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=X6MbTu2SZH0A:10 a=bqmuYeh2CH4A:10 Received: from [76.14.96.71] (HELO starstream.net) by cgfe-8-mx.wavecable.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTP id 565523826 for tigers@autox.team.net; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 09:37:03 -0700 Received: from STARMAIL [76.14.96.71] by starstream.net (SMTPD-12.2.0.235) id f28e00877e134345; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 10:02:35 -0700 From: "DERRICK SCHMIDT" To: "Tiger listserv" Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 10:02:34 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Might be a nice motor for a Tiger, if you want something other than Ford power ... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO This message was originally HTML formatted. View in a HTML capable client to see the original version.\r\n\r\nhttp://youtu.be/jHAaVrR4LZs Probably cost a few bucks more than a 289 or 302. Derrick _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51BA52584C5C for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 12:39:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from wavecable.net (cgbe-4.wavecable.com [24.113.32.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4F332584C50 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 12:36:40 -0600 (MDT) a=n4nCgACdt7rXIePKTxGtBQ==:117 a=n4nCgACdt7rXIePKTxGtBQ==:17 a=zMmog8N3GHgA:10 a=KCAr3pX66uQA:10 a=jPJDawAOAc8A:10 a=1DP8XHvC6M4A:10 a=cKxik7jdpHoA:10 a=iBb_pUaqAAAA:8 a=-9dKnBYLAAAA:8 a=_t9QuxQuAAAA:8 a=JAralIE_AAAA:8 a=seXnOF3tUq1RU-NIAP8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=w2K_ErhLG6oA:10 a=f0eh2tqPxt0A:10 a=T97lKzw-L0IA:10 a=f1nI_5Oyw33veuzwn90A:9 a=_dYzKdqwVRsA:10 a=taQfk0so-jsA:10 a=Tmb4VmKG5BwA:10 a=7G34o9l2vYcA:10 a=RRiD30cgK-oA:10 Received: from [76.14.96.71] (HELO starstream.net) by cgfe-8-mx.wavecable.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTP id 565644874 for tigers@autox.team.net; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 10:30:57 -0700 Received: from STARMAIL [76.14.96.71] by starstream.net (SMTPD-12.2.0.235) id e20f0087d5087ebd; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 10:56:28 -0700 From: "DERRICK SCHMIDT" To: "Tiger listserv" Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 10:56:28 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] =?utf-8?q?Anybody_else_get_Winding_Road_eMagazine=3F?= Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO This message was originally HTML formatted. View in a HTML capable client to see the original version.\r\n\r\nhttp://showroom.windingroad.com/listings/product/1789/?utm_source=Winding+Road+Weekly+Email+Listutm_campaign=739cee4004-WR1527_1_2014utm_medium=emailutm_term=0_f40212f51a-739cee4004-57374785mc_cid=739cee4004mc_eid=dac04342d3 https://www.flickr.com/photos/srekate0838/sets/72157644617276350/ Derrick _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2ADA2584C0C for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 12:44:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from SNT004-OMC3S7.hotmail.com (snt004-omc3s7.hotmail.com [65.55.90.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6521E25808DB for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 12:44:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT147-W25 ([65.55.90.135]) by SNT004-OMC3S7.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22701); Wed, 2 Jul 2014 11:44:49 -0700 From: Bill Lawrence To: sunbeam tiger Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 18:44:49 +0000 FILETIME=[B43CBEF0:01CF9625] Subject: [Tigers] Stock drum replacement advice Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Greetings Tiger Enthusiasts, I noticed the driver's side rear cast iron drum is starting to look a little frazzled on my stock 65 Tiger. I started a search for a replacement set and am striking out locally. I see there are references to Girling 9" X 1.7" shoes and have researched other vehicles in hopes of finding a cross reference part number for a new set. I see from the archives of various list messages, TU Tech Tips and google searches TR6 and some mid 70s Volvo may have a similar sized Girling system. I called St. Georges Ltd and they show an Alpine application but no Tiger. SS catalog is not listing the part. Victoria British no application, Moss Motors has a 9" drum, Pegasus no application, Summit Racing no application. NAPA nada. Doug Jennings no known number. Left a message for Dale A , and understand he may have joined many of the list members in celebrating 50 years of the Tiger in Colorado. Does anyone have a stock drum replacement Part Number for Beck Arnley, a LucasGirling or any other source? Could the rear brake drums possibly be sourced from the Ford (Mustang, Fairlane, Falcon) side? Does anyone know if Doug Jennings is still in the Tiger world? I tried 2 phone numbers for him but no luck. I noticed a casting number on the drum itself and conducted an internet search on it, but to no avail. I can provide that detail later if it would be helpful. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. SincerelyBill LawrenceB9473246LRX _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BDE2584C01 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 12:45:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 013682584AEF for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 12:44:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from user1PC ([unknown] [108.47.32.37]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N83006BJLEIKZ30@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 13:44:42 -0500 (CDT) From: "Tom Witt" To: References: Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 11:44:40 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Rear tire rubbing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO The older Tigers had the panhard rod that can cause some sideways motion towards the passenger of the car. Other than that the tire size I doubt is causing the problem. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCAF92584C06 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 12:57:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm8-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm8-vm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A82E2584A56 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 12:56:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.137.12.174] by nm8.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jul 2014 18:57:03 -0000 Received: from [98.136.164.72] by tm13.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jul 2014 18:57:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp234.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Jul 2014 18:57:03 -0000 s=s1024; t=1404327423; bh=7WSKC7sSCB+qPxgRbc+Q78dsyfEI443321j96Gfni4Y=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=S+zKOWWOcs5yLCzbDxj3ZyeA2bQVppvoUYdk9eowLycPOl6rupo0OZ517bYumnZWf/zTKrIGl47bGET0lNe+c14RPmIkxqJpvOFEkjJ3T2WMviGhRJuPqOU02WbAuX8bAvCUZwQiAfQhj1QG10OSim162KN3jzonr8Flo2I1VSY= r21tRUDKHDfcpdW0eVBuJO7T8rasbQMvCfEZ0DUC63OXVIlHoNGdokMesHUK 3UCTcPqx1P_iagu3YhI0vQbPmcknUoTm8UnxkOa.4wiYMaQ4_WtrO3cQ0WJ1 6SI6C6ZwvsBs40FWz05u.mkUTcl4JyX8BSrQKPewPrtDuIzmxUUOWHwTzquL zyCOjPCQwkMv.kR9B9PteygD0wmt_u2kDuUh.Sdexlfjrq7QnovPSgme81oS cLuROFOiWZmG46K_ghQ.0aDE5YyOr52C.rnUNRLz989Nc5wPMd6pCV.u_Joz IQC1MEbeQYYEfHZbdd3OB0SUse5ydHbhgCP08YjZ6hdb_lRMlPGyBKfcudRm blA0TgEDbiqPgKJYrpoir_omUu1DuC0d5SpTb9nSoZnnjFBQF3d89f0D91oS .m3oHKdmMf4GwZrrV7lT8mXECg1wEcEPC2ueUbVdQfk5XsraLnAtlz.AjiZl DEj7.xpo2BgrqYJv_EhT7zOxlcAz6B3n.cXuYjzFRhq2_hQ-- [63.250.193.228]) by smtp234.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Jul 2014 18:57:02 +0000 UTC Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 11:56:59 -0700 From: Sandy User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" References: <539FEDC2.7030609@pacbell.net> Subject: [Tigers] Parts For Sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO The NOS fan was sold, still have the other fan and some other goodies that need to go. I also have a used version of the one that is common on ebay (from Malibureview) it's used and refurbished by the aforementioned I got it from. I can post some pics of it as well, that is $150 + Shipping on first come first served, payment by cash, check or Paypal Also selling a pair of Flowmaster stainless mufflers NIB - Flowmaster 843046 3" in/out with outlet offest (Summit cost $90 each) I want $75 for the pair, prefer pick up on these (I'm in Studio City, CA). I also have a MGB rack and new boots I picked up a long while ago, not going to use it, not sure what it's worth but looking to sell that as well. Sandy _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7A52584C11 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 13:09:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f169.google.com (mail-qc0-f169.google.com [209.85.216.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F6D2584A56 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 13:08:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id c9so10355174qcz.28 for ; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 12:09:04 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=jqL6LA4vat97rtn5mU5tJBvRvmFkS+7rHl94D6zVIFQ=; b=ihs9hOYSuwxBNaw/bqWwMHD/8x0z5nF+5HNHCim3EN1IQTbmMKemie71yt8QIJ7RaI SeP2qQw+7ih8fWS/OkdytjmsMjT/ZdPb1AdVT1DC+5l4PcUdrJvgGNd33S9he9nuqpIX ODe9xhgy/vsddRQnMoj7fPh27iY5S1whHQDBAfUdY9l8lOfqvRcW+Juwi0r8uA5tQ8ys V5XP0HlbOgOctGbwpyUjXz4j5QMjtX9GtNFmX1BVDWMalPE+oALtqJ2y3fVPeI25oby3 YNRpvJGOUEmF84ikG5xF2n55EdJrovqRgS5FuNgUtMQRhJMMIHN2Bd88f/Ic+dUBzKIQ z8Bg== u9mr79084301qat.24.1404328144658; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 12:09:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.195.101 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 12:09:04 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 15:09:04 -0400 From: Tom Parker To: Tom Witt Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Rear tire rubbing Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Steve, My tires are P195 60R15s; they don't rub, but I'm usually the only occupant, & I'm a scrawny cuss. A couple things come to mind, and Tom touched on the first: put a yard stick on the sidewalls and look at the clearance (both sides) to the inner fender lips. Mine's a Mark 2 - they improved (imho) the placement of the panhard rod mounts. I used the panhard rod to center the tires under the car. So far it's held - no sign of rubbing. The second is the passenger; you said he was rather large, It may be an indication of weak rear springs Dale (Dale's Restorations) sells rear springs he claims are so good the traction bars aren't needed to control wheel hop. I doubt it's the tires. Tom '67 Mark 2 Before I went to 15" rims I used P195 70R13 tires (with a 2BBL stock engine); they worked well... if you can find them. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 2:44 PM, Tom Witt wrote: > The older Tigers had the panhard rod that can cause some sideways motion > towards the passenger of the car. Other than that the tire size I doubt is > causing the problem. _______________________________________________ > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@ > gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E30E2584BE4 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 13:28:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (fed1rmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC2925844AF for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 13:28:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo109 ([68.230.241.158]) by fed1rmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140702154204.OHIY28712.fed1rmfepo201.cox.net@fed1rmimpo109> for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 11:42:04 -0400 Received: from fed1rmwml108 ([172.18.140.217]) by fed1rmimpo109 with cox id MTi31o00M4hdPEs01Ti3No; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 11:42:03 -0400 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=UyHOC7Gu_PIA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=u9noQ1p3woq3V0wLE0UA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 204.61.12.74 by webmail.west.cox.net; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 11:42:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 11:42:03 -0400 From: To: tigers@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: [Tigers] Remote oil filter hoses Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Hey, guys: I'm fixin' to ask a question that I'll probably get laughed out on, but here goes anyway. Does anyone out there have an NOS set of remote oil filter hoses that they'd like to part with? Okay...let the laughing commence!!! Okay, now to the real question. If a fellow is trying to restore his car to original specs, where could he come up with some factory-style hoses for the remote filter set-up? I've spoken to Rick at SS and told him what I was trying to do and asked him about the hoses that he sells. He was honest about it and told me that, while they will work just fine, they were not meant to be a concours replacement item for the original. I also understood him to say that the original bell-style crimp collars on the ends of the flex part of the hose are no longer available anywhere. I've done some checking with a high-end mechanic buddy of mine who does restoration work on some rather rare and expensive cars and he says that the new type of crimp collars look different. Further research also turns up the fact that pretty much all the hose ends and collars out there are plated with a yellow zinc look rather than the old-looking silver zinc finish. Before I go any further, let me explain that I have the original hose that runs from the middle of the block adapter to the middle of the oil filter adapter, even though it definitely needs a new flex hose installed. It's the shorter factory hose that I don't have. To be clear, I have one but it's not original and, frankly, I can't even figure how anyone could install it; it's nowhere near right. This is the hose that I'm really trying to find fittings for. Consequently, here's what I'm thinking about doing...and somebody please stop me if this is a stupid idea...I'm going to go down to a local hose manufacturer today on my lunch break and see what they have in the way of hose fittings that would be as close to the originals as possible for the short hose. If I can find anything suitable (or close enough), I plan on buying them and taking the fittings for both hoses to a local plater in town and having them plated with a silver zinc finish. Once that's done, I could take them back to the hose place and have them install the new flexible hose on the fittings that I had previously had plated. Does this sound feasible, or am I "gagging on knats and swallowing flies?" What say everybody? Is there something out there that I haven't found or thought of??? One more thing...does anybody know what the original flexible part of the hose looked like? I am assuming black in color, right? Was it a smooth rubber finish or was it more stiff and rough like some of the reinforced hoses we see today? Thanks for any advice, Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B822584C11 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 14:24:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1blp0187.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.187]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198312584AEF for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 14:24:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com (10.242.233.147) by BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com (10.242.233.147) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.974.11; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 20:24:25 +0000 Received: from BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com ([10.242.233.147]) by BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com ([10.242.233.147]) with mapi id 15.00.0974.002; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 20:24:25 +0000 From: "Teepen, Jere" To: Bill Lawrence Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Stock drum replacement advice Thread-Index: AQHPliW3PXi5t0uj10S89zW1DTrEt5uNOu/E Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 20:24:24 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [174.234.128.171] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID: x-forefront-prvs: 0260457E99 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(377454003)(24454002)(199002)(189002)(51704005)(4396001)(81542001)(46102001)(76176999)(81342001)(33656002)(19580395003)(19580405001)(83322001)(101416001)(66066001)(21056001)(76482001)(50986999)(80022001)(64706001)(95666004)(105586002)(74502001)(85306003)(31966008)(106356001)(87936001)(82746002)(107046002)(20776003)(36756003)(54356999)(92726001)(77982001)(79102001)(99396002)(86362001)(106116001)(83072002)(83716003)(2656002)(74662001)(92566001)(85852003)(104396001); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2PR01MB156; H:BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; LANG:en; Cc: sunbeam tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] Stock drum replacement advice Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Doug Jennings is still very much active in the Sunbeam world. He, like many others, is at SUNI. Jere Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2014, at 11:44 AM, "Bill Lawrence" wrote: > > Greetings Tiger Enthusiasts, > I noticed the driver's side rear cast iron drum is starting to look a little > frazzled on my stock 65 Tiger. I started a search for a replacement set > and am striking out locally. I see there are references to Girling 9" X 1.7" > shoes and have researched other vehicles in hopes of finding a cross reference > part number for a new set. > I see from the archives of various list messages, TU Tech Tips and google > searches TR6 and some mid 70s Volvo may have a similar sized Girling system. > I called St. Georges Ltd and they show an Alpine application but no Tiger. SS > catalog is not listing the part. Victoria British no application, Moss Motors > has a 9" drum, Pegasus no application, Summit Racing no application. NAPA > nada. Doug Jennings no known number. Left a message for Dale A , and > understand he may have joined many of the list members in celebrating 50 years > of the Tiger in Colorado. > Does anyone have a stock drum replacement Part Number for Beck Arnley, a > LucasGirling or any other source? Could the rear brake drums possibly be > sourced from the Ford (Mustang, Fairlane, Falcon) side? Does anyone know if > Doug Jennings is still in the Tiger world? I tried 2 phone numbers for him > but no luck. > I noticed a casting number on the drum itself and conducted an internet search > on it, but to no avail. I can provide that detail later if it would be > helpful. > Any assistance is greatly appreciated. > SincerelyBill LawrenceB9473246LRX > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB6CF2584D30 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 16:18:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.centurylink.net (mail.centurylink.net [205.219.233.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913172584C04 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 16:18:34 -0600 (MDT) c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1404339523; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=FpwUBZ9EP2s2dmRYJM0OyVH2gac=; b=tXS1SnFG4eXFUKFoe0q31Z8FjLK50HLhiWC0kb/mqQGsby2CTTAUKk11tVJTFte3 tLLg4ht6SNlfDqxER22OpwWsOdU6krarFhXYU9MMV8UD6cMX4ovRj4CLTQ0jVHC4 crXDMjHI1wzPV0d/tjnli4Bzl4qvv0g5XswdBGNkLJlU/0U79/MhdEVOcFZc2DCv WdYQ/9IzrtRZzjOrUVoQ1C+xYdIaVRvopPYO/baztrGSraH6+yNe0G3xWVuMXJMT Z1YqCK8GuP+U9luSBRexcT+97iH3ntyuTO7e3AXwaeqOWEEgclWcKrCKyNZUGnDI Q1bYQkB4pGnlcE1F3F69hQ==; X_CMAE_Category: , , a=NRhBtz8MTkgvychPs07gew==:17 a=HXn-fr3u62gA:10 a=1poGYrevpj8A:10 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=2PZExsLUvbf7DhnOklMA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=RqOAJGx8AAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=DBtgzjrpi15zQOZmAXwA:9 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 a=qkNQyqMq58kpAl60:21 a=a6vwogYzqrlskvCX:21 a=NRhBtz8MTkgvychPs07gew==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp03.agate.dfw.synacor.com smtp.mail=wseay@embarqmail.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp03.agate.dfw.synacor.com header.from=wseay@embarqmail.com; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp03.agate.dfw.synacor.com smtp.user=wseay; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp03.agate.dfw.synacor.com: 71.48.129.82 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of embarqmail.com) Received: from [71.48.129.82] ([71.48.129.82:19691] helo=PCWin7) by smtp.centurylink.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.1.37854 r(Momo-dev:3.5.1.0)) with ESMTPA id AD/DD-22911-33584B35; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 18:18:43 -0400 From: "wseay" To: , References: <20140702114203.TD0WT.569002.imail@fed1rmwml108> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 18:18:36 -0400 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Remote oil filter hoses Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Andy, You're a real nit picker. I'm not sure whether I should encourage you or not, but here goes anyway. I've attached a picture of a very tired OEM short adapter hose . You other folks on the list won't get the attachment. The picture includes a ruler so you should be able to scale dimensions. The picture is a bit deceptive about the angle of the long piece of tubing on the block end of the hose so I measured the angle for you. The angle measures 110 degrees (looks closer to 90 deg. in the pic). It's obvious from the picture that the hose is black. Surface is fairly slick, but I wouldn't say "rubbery". OK, now you know as much about the hose as I do. Good luck, hope this helps Will Seay - wseay@embarqmail.com ______________________________ "I think not therefore I am not" (anon) -----Original Message----- From: awtiger@cox.net Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 11:42 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Remote oil filter hoses Hey, guys: I'm fixin' to ask a question that I'll probably get laughed out on, but here goes anyway. Does anyone out there have an NOS set of remote oil filter hoses that they'd like to part with? Okay...let the laughing commence!!! Okay, now to the real question. If a fellow is trying to restore his car to original specs, where could he come up with some factory-style hoses for the remote filter set-up? I've spoken to Rick at SS and told him what I was trying to do and asked him about the hoses that he sells. He was honest about it and told me that, while they will work just fine, they were not meant to be a concours replacement item for the original. I also understood him to say that the original bell-style crimp collars on the ends of the flex part of the hose are no longer available anywhere. I've done some checking with a high-end mechanic buddy of mine who does restoration work on some rather rare and expensive cars and he says that the new type of crimp collars look different. Further research also turns up the fact that pretty much all the hose ends and collars out there are plated with a yellow zinc look rather than the old-looking silver zinc finish. Before I go any further, let me explain that I have the original hose that runs from the middle of the block adapter to the middle of the oil filter adapter, even though it definitely needs a new flex hose installed. It's the shorter factory hose that I don't have. To be clear, I have one but it's not original and, frankly, I can't even figure how anyone could install it; it's nowhere near right. This is the hose that I'm really trying to find fittings for. Consequently, here's what I'm thinking about doing...and somebody please stop me if this is a stupid idea...I'm going to go down to a local hose manufacturer today on my lunch break and see what they have in the way of hose fittings that would be as close to the originals as possible for the short hose. If I can find anything suitable (or close enough), I plan on buying them and taking the fittings for both hoses to a local plater in town and having them plated with a silver zinc finish. Once that's done, I could take them back to the hose place and have them install the new flexible hose on the fittings that I had previously had plated. Does this sound feasible, or am I "gagging on knats and swallowing flies?" What say everybody? Is there something out there that I haven't found or thought of??? One more thing...does anybody know what the original flexible part of the hose looked like? I am assuming black in color, right? Was it a smooth rubber finish or was it more stiff and rough like some of the reinforced hoses we see today? Thanks for any advice, Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/wseay@embarqmail.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Short_filter_adapter_hose.JPG] _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:33 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098EA2584D74 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 16:25:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.centurylink.net (mail.centurylink.net [205.219.233.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E7F2584C25 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 16:25:31 -0600 (MDT) c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1404339940; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=f/+l+4yivX7147RSifLI31uL6v8=; b=mzVSzg4oLVIdc0pJClipLqfxD37XeUhg59i9cwVZ9S8MIivq+kBiNug9SUxbsnWp hTDMwWIBZ/aOA+MQjyxeK69FhnP/Y3Xa/Ut7U3/ejmDMa2hIlpugFeN08VGd0Hhn mdPH9t1vIgzQrOD56acNS1z1qJRPfszFDrAQ+3p5MXogxbn3J6DtYLSkLzRizA8c mbutXB0PgX8Mh7g7t/1j6wOaKs4uxn4bBo3dM0Ep/0+p8ia/g1QMEZQismTtq11d HhmI+6neq2mmrV705fzqydDn5eKiY/bXE+mgTyBQLlj6kNi8jMdwrhL2ZFM4BYdJ F41Qs8eppUXE/tKWLQNqwQ==; X_CMAE_Category: , , a=NRhBtz8MTkgvychPs07gew==:17 a=JJMztyy1LmAA:10 a=1poGYrevpj8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=iGuLpjGJ5JcGLxWGdmcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=g8VUA9v3nAnDUteA:21 a=tzFEov_RogxEA1O1:21 a=NRhBtz8MTkgvychPs07gew==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp02.agate.dfw.synacor.com smtp.mail=wseay@embarqmail.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp02.agate.dfw.synacor.com header.from=wseay@embarqmail.com; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp02.agate.dfw.synacor.com smtp.user=wseay; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.agate.dfw.synacor.com: 71.48.129.82 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of embarqmail.com) Received: from [71.48.129.82] ([71.48.129.82:19738] helo=PCWin7) by smtp.centurylink.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.1.37854 r(Momo-dev:3.5.1.0)) with ESMTPA id F4/5A-25964-3E684B35; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 18:25:40 -0400 From: "wseay" To: "Bill Lawrence" , "sunbeam tiger" References: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 18:25:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Stock drum replacement advice Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO To my knowledge, Tiger and Alpine drums are the same. St. George's may have your part. Can anyone confirm? Will Seay - wseay@embarqmail.com ______________________________ "I think not therefore I am not" (anon) -----Original Message----- From: Bill Lawrence Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 2:44 PM To: sunbeam tiger Subject: [Tigers] Stock drum replacement advice Greetings Tiger Enthusiasts, I noticed the driver's side rear cast iron drum is starting to look a little frazzled on my stock 65 Tiger. I started a search for a replacement set and am striking out locally. I see there are references to Girling 9" X 1.7" shoes and have researched other vehicles in hopes of finding a cross reference part number for a new set. I see from the archives of various list messages, TU Tech Tips and google searches TR6 and some mid 70s Volvo may have a similar sized Girling system. I called St. Georges Ltd and they show an Alpine application but no Tiger. SS catalog is not listing the part. Victoria British no application, Moss Motors has a 9" drum, Pegasus no application, Summit Racing no application. NAPA nada. Doug Jennings no known number. Left a message for Dale A , and understand he may have joined many of the list members in celebrating 50 years of the Tiger in Colorado. Does anyone have a stock drum replacement Part Number for Beck Arnley, a LucasGirling or any other source? Could the rear brake drums possibly be sourced from the Ford (Mustang, Fairlane, Falcon) side? Does anyone know if Doug Jennings is still in the Tiger world? I tried 2 phone numbers for him but no luck. I noticed a casting number on the drum itself and conducted an internet search on it, but to no avail. I can provide that detail later if it would be helpful. Any assistance is greatly appreciated. SincerelyBill LawrenceB9473246LRX _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/wseay@embarqmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B98B2584C39 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:49:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (fed1rmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0765C2584C00 for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 17:49:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo210 ([68.230.241.161]) by fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140702234953.MXQJ28942.fed1rmfepo203.cox.net@fed1rmimpo210> for ; Wed, 2 Jul 2014 19:49:53 -0400 Received: from laptop ([68.229.224.237]) by fed1rmimpo210 with cox id Mbps1o00S57wa9801bptko; Wed, 02 Jul 2014 19:49:53 -0400 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:17 a=65A2TtaERK4A:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=mQb45XT-5-iwqja85RsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=DovzVGEQO54A:10 a=rC2EGB1raicA:10 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=awtiger@cox.net From: "Andy Walker" To: Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 18:49:49 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac+WUBmpzFG/459rSQ6rWNXO5+O74w== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Remote oil filter hoses from Sunbeam Specialties Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Hey, guys: I know Rick at SS has told me that their oil filter hoses aren't concours correct, but the thought occurs to me that maybe, if they're not too far off on design, that they could be disassembled, re-plated to silver zinc, and re-assembled. Does anyone have a set that they could share a pic of??? Thanks, Andy _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B33FE2584A5B for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 01:53:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53ADB2580095 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 01:53:11 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge02 smtp.user=milward@roadrunner.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [86.172.192.102] ([86.172.192.102:52764] helo=[192.168.1.86]) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id DD/AA-06011-FEB05B35; Thu, 03 Jul 2014 07:53:20 +0000 From: milward@roadrunner.com Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 08:53:19 +0100 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Limited slip diff lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Question for Tom Hall or others. What do people recommend for LSDs? Tom built mine so I am sure he knows. Mine has a slight leak. Bill _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55D0B25804F1 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 11:51:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B7EA25803B2 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 11:51:30 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1404409898; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=From:Date:To:Subject:Message-Id:Content-Type; b=kTUj2mi81aLOiEjjHGj29TBDBXXPzjJvaFcr5g5UP8tZJdegK0O6yLdoTXpessgeV Ir7r8heFOG/eseHTYxpyj721ixoDOHtZOaj5HIIL45xeu/CSEZGRizXq98iQnwJgSY hc4h5rkjSW9GNy8Cy6rLhDcHIUYmQt55hO9F3+aE= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail03.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.143]) by smtpout03.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABK5MGBHAY25YN2 for (sender ); Thu, 3 Jul 2014 10:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [160.93.218.118] by webmail03.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 17:50:25 GMT From: "un-cole-a@juno.com" Full-Name: "un-cole-a@juno.com" Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 17:50:25 GMT To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Door Hinges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO All When disassembling a Tiger for restoration would it be better to leave the door hinges on the door or body, would this help when putting things back together. My thinking is you only have to adjust one end of the hinges for door alignment, not both.Or does it matter at all because it’s still going to be a pain to align the doors regardless of what you do.Also, any advice on best way to align doors?Thanks TimB9470149Balmoral Grey ____________________________________________________________ The End of the "Made-In-China" Era The impossible (but real) technology that could make you impossibly rich. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/53b59827ef6e11827699cst03vuc _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68122580549 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 12:03:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f182.google.com (mail-ve0-f182.google.com [209.85.128.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ADC32580544 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 12:02:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f182.google.com with SMTP id oy12so631332veb.27 for ; Thu, 03 Jul 2014 11:02:36 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=rahu3rK+9YQSUXgcK7wb74I0oYSjllo3wtf2hoiaFZ8=; b=cBTFINH5Q7zH4UZchXBXC5KvMJiS5ex19AupIyJTNkYIegmuHbUQN01V9GRkyyA64Y t97d3J/sDnLJbRD/3O02XS8eTyuwjV1IkqXH+JmVxN9zEgYKvEimBTuxpwO1vXGXznw+ o6rVxQFwYjWb1LgfDUR2fAiJVftYP2zFy+U9F4Ksmbcootv5knQmQJb8HnNG9vusJgdc 9alHPNLK3wF+uSKEDEGcyX8phnbkrIBKmrfJ0a2Bdbb0pDClgfxLdZvFmWvTJjeQ8+Lh R9sa+J59j5fnV+ObngU8faw9YO7Y/beZ9ljn70hqD3/lhnoFlTwMdSDhG6+D3EBBoJP/ 4z0w== Thu, 03 Jul 2014 11:02:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.88.198 with HTTP; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 11:02:36 -0700 (PDT) References: <20140703.135025.31287.0@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 11:02:36 -0700 From: Jay Laifman To: "un-cole-a@juno.com" Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Door Hinges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Leave them on!!!! Huge pain. The hinges are set at the factory. Also, they were installed BEFORE the car was painted. So when you disassemble them, and primer/paint everything, you will be adding at least 8 layers of primer/paint that WILL change the position of the doors. Then when you go to put it all back together, what slight stumble and the door taps the body and presto, you have chips all over your new paint - at the fragile edges. So leave it alone if you can! Jay On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 10:50 AM, un-cole-a@juno.com wrote: > All When disassembling a Tiger for restoration would it be better to leave > the door hinges on the door or body, would this help when putting things > back > together. My thinking is you only have to adjust one > end > of the hinges for door alignment, not both.Or does it matter at all because > it’s still going to be a pain to align the doors regardless of what > you > do.Also, any advice on best way to align doors?Thanks TimB9470149Balmoral > Grey > ____________________________________________________________ > The End of the "Made-In-China" Era > The impossible (but real) technology that could make you impossibly > rich. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/53b59827ef6e11827699cst03vuc > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D7A258049A for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 12:17:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm29-vm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm29-vm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.216.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1056A2580403 for ; Thu, 3 Jul 2014 12:17:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.137.12.57] by nm29.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jul 2014 18:17:16 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.212] by tm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jul 2014 18:17:16 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp223.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 03 Jul 2014 18:17:16 -0000 s=s1024; t=1404411436; bh=Rw4Ss9JucgR3KwhHFfWi45hKE0BxaOLXZMf2/HeKBxg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=oRB/8Z8lEkiia8hPdaN1PVJLMblfcMe/SfnnudaZtG8roeZ8EgbyNd2DrnC8333Cmwg4w3a8QfpSTo2tZtANzsidtgZZRHDvDpiazhoYIj0RuxOTSy+yCl74ttJE5G6VishjFT7IgU9Up/JYcKKWfmcZ+1i3zZAjFfhOMqHTFpU= YUhisC.czCRcxHTNfxfdEtTaX1ZNco8X8IFTmoi7q4mXz6oQZNHKFNtPmZFe A8Se_PzGNuCj1.Awv7aW2X4FZXDyZ3Qxaeztxaws5qKID9oINlfekV20.XSo VQCoJ9tuMwCsjZKMF6Co5Rv84SqpuuXjxmDKKbjszKt39t.o5_pWa6nwjo2V DQgjYKocPPh9PZAJbxeuk2Ht0cBKoSYMKzUj5a38MOQ6PyY6eXowU3BBLSMh niCeRRngaLqeJyZ6HzWSN0FBFQIYlRJYrYIyDP.ZSKLaESdjD8DFSdPbHE9V fXPM0Z2VQq9m0dNiXzD7g4lZfrlZbH2.Zuy.Lh245jAEOx6qKpTsO.Z86mba sly05vHoZNaWvXDAuZYFmL.Gcysldd7txRsTjmhEOeCrqU2jTkH8FDCWLWBU uUA.Xluj4Uz0ih7MXjzKBXN43ZUSE23kOErce8oeT9VUTx1iqJJuz.BJiXNF 7czMmWVkA16BkMQI.1CZ9bSr72iv3ybKeQSfbA_Rin2z_byJKpQPmPJHzejx 0VAjiRUK4SnNs7bmG.ZNkVvLEcIbXteafXME4HKnJ [98.138.105.21]) by smtp223.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Jul 2014 18:17:16 +0000 UTC Date: Thu, 03 Jul 2014 11:17:10 -0700 From: Sandy User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: milward@roadrunner.com, "tigers@autox.team.net" References: <6454C146-5891-492B-B6AA-AFAA96604BAE@roadrunner.com> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Limited slip diff lube Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I have used Redline for Limited slip in a few cars, and in others Royal Purple. If you are only a little low just top it off with what's in it. If a lot low you might need some additive if a clutch style to keep things happy. Sandy On 7/3/2014 12:53 AM, milward@roadrunner.com wrote: > Question for Tom Hall or others. What do people recommend for LSDs? Tom built > mine so I am sure he knows. Mine has a slight leak. > Bill > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sganz@pacbell.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C292580747 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 08:13:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF1E258045D for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 08:12:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004962.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s64EGDxR016839 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 07:16:38 -0700 Received: by sj1-dm103.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a206) id sj1-dm103.53a9d7de.76d7f for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 07:13:02 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.146.91]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 14:12:59 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 10:12:33 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+Xkf+RmAAh8MfVTGedgGHgBt1NsQ== engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-07-04_04:2014-07-04,2014-07-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1407040162 Subject: [Tigers] Throttle bracket plate Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I originally had the throttle bracket mount to the intake manifold. The throttle cable broke at the Big Sky Suni; I always carry a spare. I believe the problem is the amount of bend and bind in the cable that causes fatigue and breakage. When I return home after Big Sky I placed a .200" thick washer under the throttle bracket to reduce the bind in the cable. Possibly a .250" thick washer would be even better for the cable alignment. My Tiger has been running with the .200" spacer since 1999 with no throttle cable issues. Gene Padgett brought up a discussion about a triangular shaped plate that mounts to the 2 bossed on the intake manifold for the throttle bracket. This was a new part to me and we still do not know who manufactured this part. I made and installed this triangular shaped plate that Gene first brought to my attention. This plate near perfectly lines up the throttle cable to the carb. I did tweak the throttle bracket just a bit. One of the holes in the plate is countersunk for a stud to mount the throttle bracket and there is a slot for one of the manifold bosses. My guess is the slot is for universal fit to other manifolds. I think I will make another plate without the slot and look for a press in stud or weld a stud to the plate. I have asked Gene to post the picture and drawing he sent to me since he is the originator of this thread and the owner of the part. Thank you Gene for sharing Ron Fraser _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D202580774 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 10:47:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-35.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D486D258074D for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 10:47:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta001.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s64GlGEU025924 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 09:47:26 -0700 Received: by dm0219.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a207) id dm0219.53a9d7a3.7f2a7 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 09:47:25 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.145.79]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 16:47:20 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 12:47:16 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+Xp5xG25pPqwtUQi2w9Aa9+bQ44A== engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-07-04_05:2014-07-04,2014-07-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1407040192 Subject: [Tigers] Tiger List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO To all Have a wonderful 4th of July weekend Mark, I hope you can relax and enjoy this holiday with a tall cold one and a bottle of Gin Ron Fraser _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A735D2580774 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 12:44:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.ufl.edu (smtp-prod03.osg.ufl.edu [128.227.74.219]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E1B258071A for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 12:44:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from UFEXCH-CASHT02.ad.ufl.edu ([10.241.106.146]) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/3.0.0) with ESMTP id s64IiWXF015384 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 14:44:33 -0400 Received: from AHC-CAS04.ad.ufl.edu (10.18.251.64) by UFEXCH-CASHT02.ad.ufl.edu (10.241.106.146) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.181.6; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 14:44:33 -0400 Received: from AHC-MB04.ad.ufl.edu ([fe80::9cf9:a9b0:5cb2:e988]) by AHC-CAS04.ad.ufl.edu ([fe80::619d:a871:a1b7:4d8e%21]) with mapi id 14.03.0181.006; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 14:44:32 -0400 From: "Bates,Robert E Jr" To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Door Hinges Thread-Index: Ac+Xt+fumV+D3m0nRk2yO1Jfm7yRwg== Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 18:44:31 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.241.106.147] x-tm-as-product-ver: SMEX-10.2.0.3176-7.500.1017-20798.001 x-tm-as-result: No--23.900600-8.000000-31 x-tm-as-user-approved-sender: No x-tm-as-user-blocked-sender: No engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-07-04_06:2014-07-04,2014-07-04,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1407040219 Subject: [Tigers] Door Hinges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO If you want to do the car right, take off the doors leaving the hinges attached to the door. BUT - before you take them off, use the old "drill an 1/8" hole trick". Drill an 1/8" hole through the hinge and into the body. Then, when you reassemble, a 1/8" drill place in the hole in each hinge will let you get back to the original mount position. Granted, things change slightly as body work is done, so some minor adjustment will be needed, but it's quick and simple. Just my experience and opinion. Your mileage may vary. Bob Bates _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:35 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FDA25807A3 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 21:34:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo101.cox.net (fed1rmfepo101.cox.net [68.230.241.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CEE22580713 for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 21:33:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo305 ([68.230.241.173]) by fed1rmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140705033405.WOIA29651.fed1rmfepo101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo305> for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2014 23:34:05 -0400 Received: from laptop ([68.229.224.237]) by fed1rmimpo305 with cox id NTa41o00B57wa9801Ta4jX; Fri, 04 Jul 2014 23:34:05 -0400 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=p0wpSkp8H2KMmDByWb0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=psXREZS0v_AA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=awtiger@cox.net From: "Andy Walker" To: , References: Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2014 22:33:59 -0500 Thread-Index: AQGWlJybGqThPkbEUJjg6tqouYl8gpwC2olg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Here, here, Ron!!!! Hope everyone has a great 4th!!!! Andy Walker -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fraser Sent: Friday, July 4, 2014 11:47 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Tiger List To all Have a wonderful 4th of July weekend Mark, I hope you can relax and enjoy this holiday with a tall cold one and a bottle of Gin Ron Fraser _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/awtiger@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F2952584A0C for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 22:09:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f173.google.com (mail-pd0-f173.google.com [209.85.192.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F4E2584966 for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 22:09:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f173.google.com with SMTP id r10so3626838pdi.32 for ; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 21:09:44 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=yc2V8V7Avycv0PwVUhdoF+hoaCRyzhOkB08mGolFEDo=; b=y1Z8zJM5hQVGBgZ2RVzEvM7MsGZi6UJGQ/ngjhRwxiowN2AbFQxyQoZi3unmS/8/po beqVJ7br2gG8BUc2rWaqKZMFEJ0GsT55ng+BZ1CQMkDg2+4TFSfU16v9LQ0k8SQs+d8l 7AOL0q1GLGMQa8H5smsN7tG0cMB4fz+0YMft2e+JZBTXxSq4yio+xuyvuw6wyqdWIx/w yBsgx80YwqshIpTyXA+vzmTMWLnb7J+k8znbGsLKGfuIA3XYs/KOymrLS83SR0ALfjb8 cY7NXwz4/qswRrm0Oz008sjXfCE5akSdkdTHOyCERow4gl9d/u7vnPROwmOANH6q07M7 ItCw== hl4mr19773810pdb.64.1404619783821; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 21:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.140.135 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 21:09:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 23:09:43 -0500 From: Cullen McCann To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] thanks for a great SUNI VI !! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Just got back to OKC from CO Springs, having enjoyed a fun filled week at SUNI VI. Got to put a name to several of the faces I had previously only known via the web... thanks to all who made SUNI possible and contributed to the awesome culture surrounding Tigers and their Rootes brethren! Cullen Alpine 260 project in OKC _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:37 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC07F2584B11 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 16:43:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm42.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm42.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.120.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4145E25802EB for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 16:43:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm42.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jul 2014 22:43:43 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.114] by nm42.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jul 2014 22:40:56 -0000 Received: from [98.139.214.32] by tm105.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jul 2014 22:40:56 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.218] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jul 2014 22:40:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1027.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Jul 2014 22:40:55 -0000 Received: (qmail 91265 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Jul 2014 22:40:55 -0000 s=s1024; t=1404686455; bh=P1ttwjH+SFxMEXBaBG1Vc3ZY/r6g/c21n+j8e2YWATg=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=4zu2EwqK4NblZknLmNXYdBTzHWraWGI0wquUBac7GXRzrrmtEYd3yqSY/4ABW0J3ouYHdXpAMhZ7OJh0ASpwLDr2nNabNZPYzq1TwlDHq4xumiUIRTyzVJpXiF2nMcYmB0OCT+FA0dCQCf09RezFIM18owol8xEtrQzidcnVlAM= p9FwkQ2e8PqMIVo3t8fPvthrD2veqLPcHBxQyo98BiMTPj4A9yo3EAYy0QUL mXrJP5UgXgwR9QHPvn8YfmeRoW33MHiDgMUCAxKjTWqEoCwhH0ZYTk81C2gB wvd3s_byXvFO.7n_vmmR5KNRDTYRiBzZk7q7tyZf.dSioo6blNP2NH8l3X1J KVqmFy6pYCvU1j3ENUeWQmwFX_NCpJQvplc2kNwU6Q2rEUCInYyVgmN4r93y BuI3SCO6LOE1xeceWz4M9Xl0nEM.V.qLyfi_AypMGLor0zZ.KlmqWpa0PXPf 3_Ft9F8IgUiCjUiJ23gyOGOgILj1n0jYyT9PIGhG9cXDs.Kw1_iy3AIuYaBt cy0gAqeUY3vOKcbMN7cu0eh_99BLbYJmM7Xemuj52xia6NSsH2aOSBr_qvxL nJ12ffcDAqpRKNHzXw79_LX32a705GucK8Y897tIQmt9gzAvCeS0UEb.M87u LjEd0H9z0KyMU7TwpMJvK03O2JrHZ.kYJXLsqSgHywcC2MA-- Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162703.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 15:40:55 PDT VGhhbmtzIHRvIGFsbCB0aGUgZm9sa3Mgd2hvwqAgY291bGQgbWFrZSBpdCB0byBTVU5JLCB0byBDQVRPIGFuZCBQYWNpZmljIFRpZ2VyIENsdWIgZm9yIHNlbGVjdGluZyBhbmQgbWFubmluZyB0aGUgc2l0ZSBhbmQgZm9yIGFsbCBvZiB5b3VyIGNvdW50bGVzcyBob3VycyBwbGFubmluZyBhbmQgY2hhaXJpbmcgdmFyaW91cyBldmVudHMuIFRoYW5rcyB0bywgeWVzLCB0aGUgZW50aXJlIE1hcnJpb3R0IENvbG9yYWRvIFNwcmluZ3Mgc3RhZmYgZm9yIG1ha2luZyB1cyBmZWVsIGxpa2UgbW9yZSB0aGFuIGp1c3QBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 15:40:55 -0700 From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Ditto SUNI greetings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Thanks to all the folks who could make it to SUNI, to CATO and Pacific Tiger Club for selecting and manning the site and for all of your countless hours planning and chairing various events. Thanks to, yes, the entire Marriott Colorado Springs staff for making us feel like more than just guests-like friends and offering travelling tips, like getting more oxygen while on Pikes Peak (14,100 foot altitude-less of it available naturally, mountain climbers know what I'm talking about). Special thanks to the Alpine and Hillman owners who proved that this was not just a Tiger meet, thanks to at least two 'Florida boys' who drove west, to several who came from Virginia and Maryland, as well as Arkansas, Georgia, and Wisconsin, and I won't forget at least two families who came down from Canada, Brian Faerge from British Columbia and Theo Smit from Calgary. Thanks of course to Rosemary Smith and journalist Graham Robson for two evenings of fun. Don't forget that TEAE will hold its United this year in Boyne Mountain, Michigan in September. In 2015, the combined CAT and STOA United will take place at South Lake Tahoe, CA. Did I forget, next weekend is the Tiger 50th Anniversary in the United Kingdom. You do have your British Airways boarding passes already, yes? There will be SUNI photos no doubt in the next issues of newsletters. If you can't wait, get your kids to log onto Facebook for you, kick them out of the way, and look up the Sunbeam Tiger and Sunbeam Alpine open groups. We've been posting photos all week. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:37 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA3E2585063 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 17:02:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD3C2584AD5 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 17:02:52 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=ix.netcom.com; b=RYnEYo88MvUuOwhxnIHodu7draDYP3IfxZd/hfs6a7pWzJvkWLduwcutsb/vIKa7; h=Received:Date:Subject:Message-ID:From:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [98.245.19.53] (helo=[192.168.0.104]) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1X3vSZ-0005BH-O4; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 19:03:04 -0400 Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2014 17:02:50 -0600 From: Ken Tisdale To: snakebit289 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Ditto SUNI greetings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO It was a memorable and great week! Thanks to all who came and all who helped. See you in 5! Ken Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID snakebit289 wrote: >Thanks to all the folks who could make it to SUNI, to CATO and Pacific Tiger >Club for selecting and manning the site and for all of your countless hours >planning and chairing various events. Thanks to, yes, the entire Marriott >Colorado Springs staff for making us feel like more than just guests-like >friends and offering travelling tips, like getting more oxygen while on Pikes >Peak (14,100 foot altitude-less of it available naturally, mountain climbers >know what I'm talking about). Special thanks to the Alpine and Hillman owners >who proved that this was not just a Tiger meet, thanks to at least two >'Florida boys' who drove west, to several who came from Virginia and Maryland, >as well as Arkansas, Georgia, and Wisconsin, and I won't forget at least two >families who came down from Canada, Brian Faerge from British Columbia and >Theo Smit from Calgary. Thanks of course to Rosemary Smith and journalist >Graham Robson for two evenings of fun. > >Don't forget that TEAE will hold its >United this year in Boyne Mountain, Michigan in September. In 2015, the >combined CAT and STOA United will take place at South Lake Tahoe, CA. Did I >forget, next weekend is the Tiger 50th Anniversary in the United Kingdom. You >do have your British Airways boarding passes already, yes? > >There will be SUNI >photos no doubt in the next issues of newsletters. If you can't wait, get your >kids to log onto Facebook for you, kick them out of the way, and look up the >Sunbeam Tiger and Sunbeam Alpine open groups. We've been posting photos all >week. > >Rande Bellman >_______________________________________________ > >tigers@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ktisdale@ix.netcom.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E572584B94 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 23:45:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6042580852 for ; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 23:44:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aaj01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aaj01.mx.aol.com [172.27.3.207]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 95636700000A3; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 01:45:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mlb003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mlb003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.186.145]) by mtaomg-aaj01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5C00D38000081; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 01:45:08 -0400 (EDT) References: To: cmccann1972@gmail.com, tigers@autox.team.net From: mwood24020@aol.com Received: from 75.36.162.251 by webmail-m209.sysops.aol.com (64.12.75.234) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 07 Jul 2014 01:45:08 -0400 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 01:45:08 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1404711908; bh=4WwFWl+DdWJBRTGEoAUKaUcfEoL4g6mDDUv6wNE/UQ8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=rY+PcuGAPyNcqrbkhnjAf/xRYBb3RscNbH3DCLr9kt9vojDfC8rDXxdFfQ6w8e57W Wl8DqZvBF4r1tusnddwrp57f5uReyWSDLopR5LrxyzMPNaw9hIHHrYIo2M2zUtncqV KT+ZQfRO0DME+hMFWF7HkVMbDOxFIqj457SgeEcY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b03cf53ba33e45188 Subject: Re: [Tigers] thanks for a great SUNI VI !! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Agree on fun filled week. It was wonderful to be back to Tigering, after a number of years off and great seeing old friends and making new ones :) Huge thanks to the folks who put In so much time and effort to make it happen. Mike Wood -----Original Message----- From: Cullen McCann To: tigers Sent: Sat, Jul 5, 2014 9:10 pm Subject: [Tigers] thanks for a great SUNI VI !! Just got back to OKC from CO Springs, having enjoyed a fun filled week at SUNI VI. Got to put a name to several of the faces I had previously only known via the web... thanks to all who made SUNI possible and contributed to the awesome culture surrounding Tigers and their Rootes brethren! Cullen Alpine 260 project in OKC _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mwood24020@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4D5D2584AFE for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 08:04:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f181.google.com (mail-qc0-f181.google.com [209.85.216.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 045A4258043B for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 08:04:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id x13so3796391qcv.26 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 07:04:51 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=IGAaiRQRYywt6tGhR7BzR1Vx3prr8sHnGqG6lE2J9ks=; b=IdMUU7gXCHvzpiNYRoeHyzIsrEGZdF3czW0PBQ3Exm7sdSJUSvuFT1idcg+hHD8y+B BjevFMfEGczcDB19BVs1fANF7QNf/jsCMttkzjbEj53Z4ksS6csf4Krvgy88zP4q59wy eCdoXU2vF95uIYQhiUtRmRIopPMl1/7ZVq0tPq2SrXCY3fJc4CzU6fspWf4P1XRXLGtu gf9THd21fytrfF2WeKLtM0VohugmtpxZHWF8XFNhSEQMYD/6xt92v5sJogP3HheB/dFQ hQdYFk4N5lB/s9a6YwEmDkh/pFPGa8V/Jg71NaIROOhmIgxI2dfUjmNgWJ3JyBtbMHCg 9xKw== a6mr48094469qar.39.1404741891010; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 07:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.195.101 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 07:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 10:04:50 -0400 From: Tom Parker To: LIST TIGER Subject: [Tigers] Mark 2 Wheel Arch Trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO There's an original set on EBay from Canada that's going to go for over $7,100.00. It begs the question: does anyone in the group know of a U.S. based trim manufacturer that does small lot work? We've reached beyond the point of reasonable pricing, especially for Mark 2 specific parts. it's time to supply the demand for the couple hundred of us who, frankly can't afford that kind of cost. Tom '67 Mark 2 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2C082585203 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 12:52:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m02.mx.aol.com (omr-m02.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B35C525851D0 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 12:51:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aaf02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aaf02.mx.aol.com [172.26.127.100]) by omr-m02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id EF12F702B1FAE for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:51:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dqe003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqe003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.162.73]) by mtaomg-aaf02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id BAB2B38000085 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:51:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Rollright@aol.com Full-name: Rollright Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:51:43 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1404759103; bh=hc+D5OdFkhL6MZxDQGCqotBXw0PHWnAp4iutth6I2DE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AKfDM7d1EeNcnnHG3vbvpdMNWZ+kEhIVdeZf04OHBt44DAu1n1APC/BLNi6l1KF7n 5Z2A7gxnrmCExKiiXXKB8G6V0OR8ALiWamuL8M4HvdYC3BDxmdwKCnsqTi9WIHRH2v sfbr1njE5GbbrRF/VyGXzM6Iztbfh06DrSQH6TiQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7f6453baec3f158e Subject: [Tigers] Mk 2 trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO A 3D printer and that spray chrome shown on Jay Leno's "you tube" video would do perfectly well for probably $ 25 a piece. I just don't think anybody's got this angle yet. You can buy a pretty good Alpine for $ 7,100. Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE TAC 0763 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA96525851D0 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:54:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f179.google.com (mail-ve0-f179.google.com [209.85.128.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54CF22584892 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:48:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f179.google.com with SMTP id sa20so4551994veb.24 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 12:48:42 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=kgyUGwtISizZB+06FyvCDEjOuMUMn0RIvZMyLmdW93k=; b=n4ALYVYMDnTC+zXexwP3V2njcWimrgG+iL8o0tMgHMDtANZ/5e90p9cKFbmZ3qHYUc wqjempFmHQGIuC+YYn7N5uVQy0/pQr6eP4OfzPmcw/jfA7cISd945DRfuRZ1CMY1l5cG FFctzeE4yxF/QLdSXYSL1odW3GJlUd/8h1Km1kWyo6j6NZwsG7kJkNS3ISYm9tfmcxbY LSDTOUmjrh+4Kj/aveYObwsuiU7ztf1H1mhfDglJ/MnlIxxwhgNGGs1ns8XWefW8nuFa aUwVypgJBgEULK30+PXidvHzrbgHkMq7COxj2DRuPnnT/jE5XmUIzAn5cauXY+Fn0XDd qowQ== uh4mr14805382veb.30.1404762522416; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 12:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.88.198 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 12:48:42 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 12:48:42 -0700 From: Jay Laifman To: Rollright@aol.com Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mk 2 trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I looked into that spray chrome he had. At least from what I was told, it doesn't work as well as shown, and can't really be found anymore. As to custom parts, I realize that at some point the price of some parts seem to make sense for someone to reproduce them. However, I also know that in the Porsche 356 world, where cars go for well over $100,000 and in some cases multiple times that for basically the same car but with less roof, there has been a pretty large drop off in parts available. The general consensus is that even though the cars are so valuable, there are very few cars remaining that are unrestored. So the potential for demand from future restorations is seen as low. Also, the number of these cars that actually get driven enough to wear out parts, like when they were "real" cars, driven regularly, has also dropped even more dramatically. So a lot of the parts manufacturers are turning elsewhere, or making much lower quality parts. Just a ray of cheery sunlight for your day. Jay On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:51 AM, wrote: > A 3D printer and that spray chrome shown on Jay Leno's "you tube" video > would do perfectly well for probably $ 25 a piece. > > I just don't think anybody's got this angle yet. > > You can buy a pretty good Alpine for $ 7,100. > > > > Jim Armstrong > Mk 1A > 382002083 > LRXFE > TAC 0763 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907962585268 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:02:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d03.mx.aol.com (omr-d03.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68C632584892 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:02:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mac01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mac01.mx.aol.com [172.26.222.207]) by omr-d03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 7DAA0702A7C92; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 16:02:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mlb003b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mlb003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.186.145]) by mtaomg-mac01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 2490D38000086; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 16:02:12 -0400 (EDT) From: MWood24020@aol.com Full-name: MWood24020 Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 16:02:12 -0400 (EDT) To: jay.laifman@gmail.com, Rollright@aol.com x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1404763332; bh=RCxLIRydM6OPTJMw+gYpdzxN4pREauI9Y3JLp1mZU4Y=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vhKKeJIgPKjFlI6X2fPPNU7y3aCm8M5YITvbhXAZ4X0/CUVZN8WlRdFDoJLIQxurE VQ/Fv6NF+Nd721uXoIbDx8QGCMrT+UgFcp/7NpUSf4/lZhV3voOcNMDAIjNDC9d3iJ +C9dJ34g7LJx/fqgfHBaJJGJjK5AnoGAbwr5Le28= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1adecf53bafcc427e5 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mk 2 trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I believe a MkII too far gone to restore went for $22k recently...so, maybe a full stainless trim set is now a $20k item? Scary. In a message dated 7/7/2014 12:54:40 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, jay.laifman@gmail.com writes: I looked into that spray chrome he had. At least from what I was told, it doesn't work as well as shown, and can't really be found anymore. As to custom parts, I realize that at some point the price of some parts seem to make sense for someone to reproduce them. However, I also know that in the Porsche 356 world, where cars go for well over $100,000 and in some cases multiple times that for basically the same car but with less roof, there has been a pretty large drop off in parts available. The general consensus is that even though the cars are so valuable, there are very few cars remaining that are unrestored. So the potential for demand from future restorations is seen as low. Also, the number of these cars that actually get driven enough to wear out parts, like when they were "real" cars, driven regularly, has also dropped even more dramatically. So a lot of the parts manufacturers are turning elsewhere, or making much lower quality parts. Just a ray of cheery sunlight for your day. Jay On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:51 AM, wrote: > A 3D printer and that spray chrome shown on Jay Leno's "you tube" video > would do perfectly well for probably $ 25 a piece. > > I just don't think anybody's got this angle yet. > > You can buy a pretty good Alpine for $ 7,100. > > > > Jim Armstrong > Mk 1A > 382002083 > LRXFE > TAC 0763 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mwood24020@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE7825852E5 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:03:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f178.google.com (mail-vc0-f178.google.com [209.85.220.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 132D62585246 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:03:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id ij19so4421870vcb.23 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 13:03:13 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=LvbtUtrrWyMAfJLqdNWMcNPlh8/VElDwZl+ZYZGLFvg=; b=tNAscbRxnUVMDitsp5WABNcjYupr2BSfR5QuLXto1FYJYqbmaEe4f3Jj6z0sqv0X9s 2sibwhvRWCHrO16r2qIYssVDeNrChAveSaVUf6KvR1O9TFAuDLFwfEXrHSwAKGD8mwNL j9Fmya+XVypbtYp+7Af7acG6fPg+wbPj+XT5nTyJ5oy+AafAH80Id7pvkmuTpbeAfdOv vS7aGq5ktSPADy/oek7tlDEBMb71St46ceBrfmOx7mcSwJaUQJ0jYod6/ajHl8NriwNx CwhiuC/QFSByHAkfnzMWWeS8js4hGSJC7y+CwymE9P+gD03dRbrD3fHepTcfLUSbpS4Z sj/A== bi5mr29428472vcb.26.1404763393196; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 13:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.249.66 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.249.66 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:03:13 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 16:03:13 -0400 From: Chip Broadbooks To: Tom Parker Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mark 2 Wheel Arch Trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO There was someone in the UK that was reproducing the egg crate grill and the wheel arch trim. He was selling them on eBay. Unfortunately, eBay has deleted the correspondence I had with him... :/ There's an original set on EBay from Canada that's going to go for over $7,100.00. It begs the question: does anyone in the group know of a U.S. based trim manufacturer that does small lot work? We've reached beyond the point of reasonable pricing, especially for Mark 2 specific parts. it's time to supply the demand for the couple hundred of us who, frankly can't afford that kind of cost. Tom '67 Mark 2 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/chip.broadbooks@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147EF25852D5 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:15:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f172.google.com (mail-qc0-f172.google.com [209.85.216.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138122584BEE for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 14:15:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id o8so4410800qcw.31 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 13:15:44 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XNSuIrY/aXeQvuSpY9N0KdHlMykk2yZVWlKqzKzz30A=; b=afd5lOINlungBe3GRLL7e5rnQRD6tjRZrOSAGN+VLFiycpBp+lrTnF0kepqP2D6Ilg BtZt1wGI5PTfy+0dhk9797Lv/F8fXvdjQYu48WpYB6Udl2QMm5PqjPwoJSHf4eK293bR fNDB6zS75cid2Rurudl1cr67YlQ+dmSVgtuY/ybFbH+xeXNwc5Yy70aSXWxhcCVXrA3q xpW3kaMCTaYP/I1qu2cVoTRFFIO3TQ55iGFNH01/0u4ENHzfcKTv1uo68PWDMrNhtCKb 49Ai9i58gk9LnvfIcPMzK5u5jeAZjnsWkbXDuhihZyT/vJmQbbZUok890KZkIfBihlVo MOkQ== a6mr51683054qar.39.1404764144184; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 13:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.195.101 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:15:44 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 16:15:44 -0400 From: Tom Parker To: Jay Laifman Cc: Rollright@aol.com, Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mk 2 trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Jay, Jim, Group: My original post (I think) got lost in the shuffle. An auction on EBay closed today for Mark 2 Tiger Wheel Arch Trim. The going price was @ $8,500 which, to me as a Mark 2 owner is totally out of sight. We've reached the point, I think, where some enterprising fabricator can make the part at a reasonable price and expect a reasonable profit. The problem - for me - is these guys are hard to find. So help me out, so I can help out the community. Yeah, I'm willing to invest a reasonable sum to have some made - one set for me, some to sell at a more reasonable price. Clearly marked as "Reproductions - "x" available at $??? a set." There are about 350 Mark 2's identified in Norm's list, there are a dozen or so interested folks tracking the trim when it show up on EBay. Does anybody have a shop or know of a shop that can make rolled stainless steel trim? Tom '67 Mark 2 On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Jay Laifman wrote: > I looked into that spray chrome he had. At least from what I was told, it > doesn't work as well as shown, and can't really be found anymore. > > As to custom parts, I realize that at some point the price of some parts > seem to make sense for someone to reproduce them. However, I also know > that in the Porsche 356 world, where cars go for well over $100,000 and in > some cases multiple times that for basically the same car but with less > roof, there has been a pretty large drop off in parts available. The > general consensus is that even though the cars are so valuable, there are > very few cars remaining that are unrestored. So the potential for demand > from future restorations is seen as low. Also, the number of these cars > that actually get driven enough to wear out parts, like when they were > "real" cars, driven regularly, has also dropped even more dramatically. So > a lot of the parts manufacturers are turning elsewhere, or making much > lower quality parts. > > Just a ray of cheery sunlight for your day. > > Jay > > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:51 AM, wrote: > > > A 3D printer and that spray chrome shown on Jay Leno's "you tube" video > > would do perfectly well for probably $ 25 a piece. > > > > I just don't think anybody's got this angle yet. > > > > You can buy a pretty good Alpine for $ 7,100. > > > > > > > > Jim Armstrong > > Mk 1A > > 382002083 > > LRXFE > > TAC 0763 > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5972A2584CE7 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 17:14:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5BD32584AEB for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 17:12:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com [172.26.50.176]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2AB89700000AF for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 19:13:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dkc001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dkc001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.178.15]) by mtaomg-mcb02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E9B3738000082 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 19:13:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Landcmitch@aol.com Full-name: Landcmitch Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 19:13:06 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20121107; t=1404774787; bh=Iy8vQPqO5dMPHO2BhAWX1fNrjEQWnvRQOE6FJX18eO4=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TUV/dmhkxuyub/mLRFapKVrVb1yArsCVlVUL5HRnA/Zaj3suPPF+JJmzEPLayx9Nm SobleYnZAS4nptfJ33ugu7mzqNJYzOBXp2qRVQeTaIr4adXRnoDjcx2y/aMG/mOzBK Gcu+AXQwaafrBZpedAmiPaVaQhQjkjZ0UvSvZLmQ= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a32b053bb298208df Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mark 2 Wheel Arch Trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO For the non-purist, JC Whitney has chrome trim for the wheel arch. I've seen it, and it is very good. Forty bucks or so. Repeat - for the non-purist....who can't come up with the $8K. Charlie In a message dated 7/7/2014 7:41:11 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tkparker1941@gmail.com writes: There's an original set on EBay from Canada that's going to go for over $7,100.00. It begs the question: does anyone in the group know of a U.S. based trim manufacturer that does small lot work? We've reached beyond the point of reasonable pricing, especially for Mark 2 specific parts. it's time to supply the demand for the couple hundred of us who, frankly can't afford that kind of cost. Tom '67 Mark 2 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/landcmitch@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25242584DC8 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 07:48:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ve0-f169.google.com (mail-ve0-f169.google.com [209.85.128.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC82258025C for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 07:48:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ve0-f169.google.com with SMTP id pa12so5806133veb.0 for ; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 06:48:39 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=7t4mozeHSz1xkydZUTHD/20/Nrriq3AHLBc006CE3AI=; b=qFa+25UVmmsdQzSPA3ypIqLQ5TtgTP7h8fDQkD8iwvu2q6pg1ODIpOjT7aTBN1H7Ks pfBbVnB2VrUh5C3vZbZAIAF5VDHyIp67jeNwVq4sxk5o/b3DEOGcqzzM+tHDlDxzytGZ o4IoXQfE0wUNuf2Z0/NTei5kpsWr09o15mS+/gpVDMebQKU7ZssOO09Wg/LzB7ydA5qr fYg4ZdDPxzuh4h0pXPL0gg8YJrQ+abZQmMUrH9YoC6Fn3VGy2/NOYJ1KbOU37cS1gqic 5zauajG0sXMIDtvGR5JYDPWWIj6rRu3c9/fvGKc/qdSMX5xXFoFgCbzcwLykLP1PNTap RLeQ== z6mr32943827vep.7.1404827319467; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 06:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.44.20 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 06:48:39 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 09:48:39 -0400 From: "Robert D. Hogan" To: Tom Parker Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mark 2 Wheel Arch Trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Usually, in the automotive manufacturing supplier pool, you can find a vendor willing to produce your part in prototype quantity. Tooling cost to form and roll the sheet metal trim piece(s) needed is usually the expensive part. The first step would be to create a detailed drawing which is derived from a 3D CAD model of the part. Are there many Tiger owners with access to the software that will create the model and drawing? On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Tom Parker wrote: > There's an original set on EBay from Canada that's going to go for over > $7,100.00. It begs the question: does anyone in the group know of a U.S. > based trim manufacturer that does small lot work? > > We've reached beyond the point of reasonable pricing, especially for Mark 2 > specific parts. it's time to supply the demand for the couple hundred of > us who, frankly can't afford that kind of cost. > > Tom > '67 Mark 2 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/robertdhogan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209682584E50 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 10:36:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF442584D65 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 10:36:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from user1PC ([unknown] [108.47.32.37]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N8E00H0HJGPUM30@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 11:36:25 -0500 (CDT) From: "Tom Witt" To: References: Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2014 09:36:23 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mark 2 Wheel Arch Trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO At some point Rootes could afford the cost of the trim for the 531(?) Mark II Tigers without sending the cost of the car skyrocketing. I used the $8,425 (including shipping) cost of this single set and divided it by the 531 production number. It came out to $15.86 per set of four. For half the Mark II's (265) it would be $31.72 and for a quarter of the Mark II's (133) it would be $63.44. So, could these have been reproduced for $8,425? I don't know, but if they could..., 133 Mark II owners paying $63.44 per set of four would have recouped the cost of a single set. Just something to think about. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Robert D. Hogan Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 6:48 AM To: Tom Parker Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mark 2 Wheel Arch Trim Usually, in the automotive manufacturing supplier pool, you can find a vendor willing to produce your part in prototype quantity. Tooling cost to form and roll the sheet metal trim piece(s) needed is usually the expensive part. The first step would be to create a detailed drawing which is derived from a 3D CAD model of the part. Are there many Tiger owners with access to the software that will create the model and drawing? On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Tom Parker wrote: > There's an original set on EBay from Canada that's going to go for over > $7,100.00. It begs the question: does anyone in the group know of a U.S. > based trim manufacturer that does small lot work? > > We've reached beyond the point of reasonable pricing, especially for Mark > 2 > specific parts. it's time to supply the demand for the couple hundred of > us who, frankly can't afford that kind of cost. > > Tom > '67 Mark 2 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D67E258534F for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 11:34:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.28]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 369DE2584EFE for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 11:31:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jul 2014 17:31:44 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.118] by nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jul 2014 17:28:39 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.153] by tm109.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jul 2014 17:28:39 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.234] by tm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jul 2014 17:28:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1043.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Jul 2014 17:28:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 7428 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jul 2014 17:28:39 -0000 s=s1024; t=1404840519; bh=cnGe3hXscjDSWAwdHjc6bVi9JgHkXmjPADVIt7+cmHk=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Q3+e//wI6glH91bPnaolRpQufmESA5jmukCqguZVIRHj9Ia/raD2S9dX+h3Boyx4VScR3U3nqa5oIeLo4c0PjcJp8K5tH/i7/Wz22qVyjup4kPNENhGhLUi3n4KTYiQEjfbIFn+Iy5TALVZ3GuSGBkHVDX1fJOpBQJtxMTLJCqI= 2RcAt.00Aw6MnOvjQS7AfkS6bHKMOmgxy_gV.bTOBIUG3nHauh6V_V1soj0v EyyK2NB2Nkxk9y4eawWj0Jqy3o2X0Pz9yF9MLFTGy3WbOju7z.5IDQIpX9Ei jH.wh2F4IHZxGLqu7yxV7SZ24iMMS_6T3w6_JrmJWb87rdZ.qGVrC3hMEkfb V8VSNTBURKoUmgOG0kkcDcb.cQHKZAhgQAJZdbZruPVUpyHsJNn7BB03bXA3 wb1v4I8MhZs1ZYj8oybNfu5IZWXbRQZfW4NjAfvmuFP4jA5q5z8M37ijMgKu CEsGZ.sskGE3JNwaMLvmGVkZgDOD2asMgTwNdu99kiBNqvIyF0g.b4oGJhAK okZcftCWGmdBG2aWypuQsiscvtkDRujfDGfDtIFLZytchWrDF2hEevSlQo30 vGW9LXrFctNXzHNM90SRViHwVbYohD_q0OD71p8aIoGZuPL1ZzCRDq0n8kOh UXQLmMCtUAumoJ5umOMX2NaehTrOK59EpEH7OR3t.784IAg-- Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 10:28:39 PDT V2UgZG9uJ3Qga25vdyB3aHkgc29tZW9uZSB0aG91Z2h0IHRoZXNlIG1vdWxkaW5ncyB3ZXJlIHdvcnRoICQ4SyBwbHVzLiBXYXMgaXQgYSBwcml2YXRlIHBhcnR5IGZpbmlzaGluZyBhIHJlc3RvcmF0aW9uIHdob3NlIG9ubHkgbWlzc2luZyBpdGVtcyB3ZXJlIHRoZXNlIG1vdWxkaW5ncywgd2FzIGl0IGEgY29tbWVyY2lhbCByZXN0b3JlciBpbnN0ZWFkIHdobyBoYWQgY2FydGUgYmxhbmNoZSB0byBmaW5pc2ggYSBUaWdlciBJSSwgbm8gbWF0dGVyIHRoZSBhbW91bnQsIHdhcyBpdCBzb21lb25lIGFscmVhZHkBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 10:28:39 -0700 From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tiger II mouldings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO We don't know why someone thought these mouldings were worth $8K plus. Was it a private party finishing a restoration whose only missing items were these mouldings, was it a commercial restorer instead who had carte blanche to finish a Tiger II, no matter the amount, was it someone already planning to reproduce sets of these? The first thing I thought of was the red Mark II IIRC from eBay a few months ago, that looked to be held together just by the paint. Suddenly, $22K for that car seems not near so bad, if the new owner is parting it out, and now knows he has $8K in mouldings alone. The second thing that occurred to me is a certain historic Alpine V in the south with a nice set of Mark II mouldings. I did email the owner and suggest that he up his insurance value another $9K. The other factor is determining how many new sets will the market need. How many cars still need them, of the original 533, and how many sets extra to account for the Mark II's that become involved in collisions that will need them in the future. Rande _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D2E62585394 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 11:36:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f177.google.com (mail-qc0-f177.google.com [209.85.216.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D723E25852DD for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 11:36:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f177.google.com with SMTP id r5so5462307qcx.22 for ; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 10:36:54 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=RgnPlwpsdkVfHHES+fdZ+flO0rhikr7xfIjdydw2p0I=; b=vkqxSSubLMJbrgBq2n/PSC1Bbk/hD+ITnesX5uiryjLWmzdZneSqm6JYyosOTrFkra b7YH/s2FwwrFo7WZHfSL82rc4nwKxmkliV43nE26Xb51rNf9A9mquRISvJlNitN953la QtYCaAXpYpwlNq7Z8fRnPlAJRbap5YJZMnyUGI1nt6RECnVsW168jleK8fvj3dPTXD2R ThWgBU7xkC9fSO5NyFwGn5c+SRkkyEc1XwRZPEtew2qeAbZbZUIxRKVq8D3GHj7sf7uk P/Zblt8qkCSKdrOwsxwq0hhB7y5N7q9sLt7anqwhJPAE1U+sWEzEfs5pDwVJwrYZlTKO 6bow== l12mr62897284qab.88.1404841014371; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 10:36:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.195.101 with HTTP; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 10:36:54 -0700 (PDT) References: <9F76F08CAC0A4321A67A706A2B6D6CBB@user1PC> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 13:36:54 -0400 From: Tom Parker To: Tom Witt Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mark 2 Wheel Arch Trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Tom, Yeah, I'm thinking about it, and have been for a while. If I could build 20 sets for @ $10,000 my cost would be $500 each. (Picking numbers here, I don't know what the manufacturing cost would be...) At that price you can bet they'd sell for a hellova lot less than the $2,000 a wheel plus this last batch sold for. And once the engineering cost is done.... Tom '67 Mark 2 On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Tom Witt wrote: > At some point Rootes could afford the cost of the trim for the 531(?) Mark > II Tigers without sending the cost of the car skyrocketing. I used the > $8,425 (including shipping) cost of this single set and divided it by the > 531 production number. It came out to $15.86 per set of four. For half the > Mark II's (265) it would be $31.72 and for a quarter of the Mark II's (133) > it would be $63.44. > > So, could these have been reproduced for $8,425? I don't know, but if > they could..., 133 Mark II owners paying $63.44 per set of four would have > recouped the cost of a single set. Just something to think about. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- From: Robert D. Hogan > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 6:48 AM > To: Tom Parker > Cc: LIST TIGER > > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mark 2 Wheel Arch Trim > > Usually, in the automotive manufacturing supplier pool, you can find a > vendor willing to produce your part in prototype quantity. Tooling cost to > form and roll the sheet metal trim piece(s) needed is usually the expensive > part. > The first step would be to create a detailed drawing which is derived from > a 3D CAD model of the part. > Are there many Tiger owners with access to the software that will create > the model and drawing? > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Tom Parker > wrote: > > There's an original set on EBay from Canada that's going to go for over >> $7,100.00. It begs the question: does anyone in the group know of a U.S. >> based trim manufacturer that does small lot work? >> >> We've reached beyond the point of reasonable pricing, especially for Mark >> 2 >> specific parts. it's time to supply the demand for the couple hundred of >> us who, frankly can't afford that kind of cost. >> >> Tom >> '67 Mark 2 >> > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@ > gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 773F62584ED8 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:11:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.bemta8.messagelabs.com (mail1.bemta8.messagelabs.com [216.82.243.205]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69E182584EA1 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:10:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.82.241.211:1345] by server-13.bemta-8.messagelabs.com id 2F/FB-03059-4343CB35; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 18:11:00 +0000 Received: (qmail 16485 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2014 18:10:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO AUS-P-DMZEXCH01.ex.urs.com) (205.246.167.116) by server-10.tower-85.messagelabs.com with AES128-SHA encrypted SMTP; 8 Jul 2014 18:10:57 -0000 Received: from AUS-P-EXHUB22.EX.URS.COM (10.196.43.122) by AUS-P-DMZEXCH01.ex.urs.com (10.194.12.31) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.158.1; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 13:10:41 -0500 Received: from AUS-P-EXMB32.EX.URS.COM ([fe80::8895:6af:efe7:fa9]) by AUS-P-EXHUB22.EX.URS.COM ([fe80::b0cf:6353:16ba:7055%12]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 13:10:44 -0500 From: "Bulpitt, Bill" To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Mark II Trim Thread-Index: Ac+a1ganoMUtdBEgTnCFQLCUZuYiyA== Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 18:10:43 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.196.25.18] x-urs-disclaimer: yes Subject: [Tigers] Mark II Trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Yes, it is amazing the prices these have gotten to. I have a Mark II that has three excellent pieces and one bad one (RF) that I have had three people try to fix and am still not happy with. I would gladly pay $500+ for one but not $2000. There is a lot of crazy money around these days, such as $1.2 MM for a 911 (Steve McQueen). Wait till you see what his Ferrari sells for next month... Bill Bulpitt Bill Bulpitt William S. Bulpitt, P.E. Principal Mechanical Engineer URS Corporation 1000 Abernathy Road, NE, Suite 900 Atlanta, GA 30328 Tel: 678-808-8827 Cell: 404-387-6982, 770-329-5263 This e-mail and any attachments contain URS Corporation confidential information that may be proprietary or privileged. If you receive this message in error or are not the intended recipient, you should not retain, distribute, disclose or use any of this information and you should destroy the e-mail and any attachments or copies. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DEE25854E2 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:27:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp.centurylink.net (mail.centurylink.net [205.219.233.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A194B25853E3 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 12:27:13 -0600 (MDT) c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1404844046; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=/FZTf7JTvtlqe3+DhsM8clVLOOY=; b=QDp/N8WaJ5WsTDqq1sbWxhk9I88QCPV5zedF59BoWvtCZ5bmReU5puY2UdTOub2d 9OwenKYB71DgcWof0hPOpi+k0u/N7QqvH/ovLXivL02cUdkUKgmXejU+gcw4XzSi JQaDZKWcbLhd+74YMgjcEwyZAE4XpzT/RSCL+KbxrxF3qc/z9JjwPXRVT19Inb01 GuZOxuDa7uALNgTh0Vy6+YwVcsFH+CreoJHh4ccUBLCe83V70HT6x4HGq7rjT1VE F5h7e7/Q0OXgj4PFLQRtwwC0p9OOuyc0etS0oFYz5dKVwXvbGT1oZkjBXBsOVVsQ vNF/QFxawocLLeoyVel83A==; X_CMAE_Category: , , a=z0CUatW4FRnUbC/Rm3dVig==:17 a=CAJQ6vn9RPIA:10 a=1poGYrevpj8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=_bOCVahA7kFBAlH-3C4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=bDqfGn44ETEA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=PBuoRMRyHUYSikoB:21 a=ZgMIQ7KXEFKrG9FO:21 a=z0CUatW4FRnUbC/Rm3dVig==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp03.agate.dfw.synacor.com smtp.mail=wseay@embarqmail.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp03.agate.dfw.synacor.com header.from=wseay@embarqmail.com; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp03.agate.dfw.synacor.com smtp.user=wseay; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp03.agate.dfw.synacor.com: 71.48.128.206 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of embarqmail.com) Received: from [71.48.128.206] ([71.48.128.206:25932] helo=PCWin7) by smtp.centurylink.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.1.37854 r(Momo-dev:3.5.1.0)) with ESMTPA id 64/21-29256-D083CB35; Tue, 08 Jul 2014 14:27:26 -0400 From: "wseay" To: "Tom Parker" , "Tom Witt" References: <9F76F08CAC0A4321A67A706A2B6D6CBB@user1PC> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 14:27:39 -0400 Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mark 2 Wheel Arch Trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO While we're at it, let's not forget the rocker panel molding. You need the rocker panel molding to complete the set. Looks to me that the rocker molding is even harder to find than the wheel arch moldings. The last rocker panel molding that I saw on ebay was when Tiger Tom divested himself of some MKII trim. I believe that back then each piece sold for about $600, making a complete (6-piece) set go for about about $3,600. Will Seay - wseay@embarqmail.com ______________________________ "I think not therefore I am not" (anon) -----Original Message----- From: Tom Parker Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 1:36 PM To: Tom Witt Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mark 2 Wheel Arch Trim Tom, Yeah, I'm thinking about it, and have been for a while. If I could build 20 sets for @ $10,000 my cost would be $500 each. (Picking numbers here, I don't know what the manufacturing cost would be...) At that price you can bet they'd sell for a hellova lot less than the $2,000 a wheel plus this last batch sold for. And once the engineering cost is done.... Tom '67 Mark 2 On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:36 PM, Tom Witt wrote: > At some point Rootes could afford the cost of the trim for the 531(?) Mark > II Tigers without sending the cost of the car skyrocketing. I used the > $8,425 (including shipping) cost of this single set and divided it by the > 531 production number. It came out to $15.86 per set of four. For half the > Mark II's (265) it would be $31.72 and for a quarter of the Mark II's > (133) > it would be $63.44. > > So, could these have been reproduced for $8,425? I don't know, but if > they could..., 133 Mark II owners paying $63.44 per set of four would have > recouped the cost of a single set. Just something to think about. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- From: Robert D. Hogan > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 6:48 AM > To: Tom Parker > Cc: LIST TIGER > > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mark 2 Wheel Arch Trim > > Usually, in the automotive manufacturing supplier pool, you can find a > vendor willing to produce your part in prototype quantity. Tooling cost > to > form and roll the sheet metal trim piece(s) needed is usually the > expensive > part. > The first step would be to create a detailed drawing which is derived from > a 3D CAD model of the part. > Are there many Tiger owners with access to the software that will create > the model and drawing? > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 10:04 AM, Tom Parker > wrote: > > There's an original set on EBay from Canada that's going to go for over >> $7,100.00. It begs the question: does anyone in the group know of a U.S. >> based trim manufacturer that does small lot work? >> >> We've reached beyond the point of reasonable pricing, especially for Mark >> 2 >> specific parts. it's time to supply the demand for the couple hundred of >> us who, frankly can't afford that kind of cost. >> >> Tom >> '67 Mark 2 >> > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@ > gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/wseay@embarqmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562E62585629 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 13:23:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C272D258046F for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 13:21:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aac02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aac02.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.36]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 80F69702C1F29 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 15:21:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dsd005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dsd005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.253.145]) by mtaomg-aac02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 529DF38000081 for ; Tue, 8 Jul 2014 15:21:43 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net From: Warren Goodman Received: from 96.229.39.107 by webmail-vm038.sysops.aol.com (149.174.150.60) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Tue, 08 Jul 2014 15:21:43 -0400 Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 15:21:43 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1404847303; bh=B2F72jRU/Kkt+P3zxXSQc7H6jcHEvTWP17LBtdGr85I=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=K4hGNUoibaKyg2I/ZH+Cva4GQm0116LWSu3TnPJ4/h3OTOw0Ml3GKwmnZhJgbkepp mGBYqvuFzbxmi9Nh+ddX/zPGRk+AVRXtJutezTQd55WWDMPKXRpkwn6r/rU7Y7z5Hi pIhfYxsXgC2G2J32SLlX22uB+IoioQdQGiAD35bc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b022453bc44c71b39 Subject: [Tigers] AC repop Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO IDK if everyone has read about the AC air cleaner housing on CAT. I have a proof that is very nice but not the finished product. I will be going to the Central Coast British show in Oxnard on the 20th. I have ended up being a partner in the project, my first choice was to let CAT market the product but that could not happen. Our mfg guy has been making auto parts for some time and would be a good contact for those considering MK2 wheel arch fab's. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3914B2580A17 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 09:56:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f44.google.com (mail-qg0-f44.google.com [209.85.192.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACEB4258045E for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 09:56:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id j107so6610506qga.17 for ; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 08:56:44 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=B9I5Rs7RihmE1ht3qGGb4H0dJjHtKcOF981tsH26SRE=; b=jcWKLG55wnwynjfYUG1ZXhYJr1qaSssQcvqTmXD4Een/W1OcH68ZkRIr6jqV73RexF j8MyBijNFEBXANWLb6zDtYxBR/ezE8b3IK/AFYUcAxGZZuVfhPhQLE7O9FUwJOcWsJP3 bi+9RA2fI93jWCtE8y/Jpi0A98US78k1iKfJmXJ/1QMYroMmlIYicMIaEFrh8aSQy8h2 YxykVpvWMkIRgmGVTbfLWLmBagClZmPEKFhjq7WH/zHF1IDAU+T3Yr6xqAvPflwWbGXY iPuuT6QLH4WJjqnXwMzKh67iUeev5ve0s5JoCGmXuiE9FQu+n6q8gMxRKpVbe/HfEFaT nF+g== b93mr43432870qgf.3.1404921404709; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 08:56:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.108.198 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 08:56:44 -0700 (PDT) References: <1404840519.30392.YahooMailNeo@web162701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 11:56:44 -0400 From: Jim Sencindiver To: snakebit289 Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger II mouldings Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I need a set! But at a "reasonable" price... maybe less than $1K? I paid Uncle Wally $795 for my Mk II grill back in 2000 and consider that a good deal. Keep on Tigerin! Jim Sencindiver B382100451/TAC 448 http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:28 PM, snakebit289 wrote: > We don't know why someone thought these mouldings were worth $8K plus. Was > it > a private party finishing a restoration whose only missing items were these > mouldings, was it a commercial restorer instead who had carte blanche to > finish a Tiger II, no matter the amount, was it someone already planning to > reproduce sets of these? > > The first thing I thought of was the red Mark II > IIRC from eBay a few months ago, that looked to be held together just by > the > paint. Suddenly, $22K for that car seems not near so bad, if the new owner > is > parting it out, and now knows he has $8K in mouldings alone. The second > thing > that occurred to me is a certain historic Alpine V in the south with a nice > set of Mark II mouldings. I did email the owner and suggest that he up his > insurance value another $9K. > > The other factor is determining how many new > sets will the market need. How many cars still need them, of the original > 533, and how many sets extra to account for the Mark II's that become > involved > in collisions that will need them in the future. > > Rande > _______________________________________________ > > > > > -- _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16D6258588E for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 16:28:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f172.google.com (mail-vc0-f172.google.com [209.85.220.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A4D2585821 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 16:27:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f172.google.com with SMTP id hy10so8951538vcb.3 for ; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 15:27:38 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=y8AhkNmiXLO3E38QfUHAJP2S7CmtjKkSMZu6LVSIh5I=; b=bBbU+WMNK80MuWqvb5qjmuxHwNjxl/3jHerRCXz41zhXkzBRfDCcM41Un+oEbJHEnf aQV634aGzg9jSjlkjWLa0PQ+wTMW62oAG3W1w74pDNZdwF8+xeFLL/iYBLs/m+Duz7O3 r0iAGfZsmDEHPjTyI8RDg9ddJytQYCkJjQNefAcoC/JJs81k+sPej11D54QPhOEcrTns ytnf66NrYb4X4YPxM8IEJLid0u1F2exhq9J5JBiRghxGrlMft/hd/5KNfWI8IuhGXo2D 4fRvqWd/rxNoCF/jHpM9wzfAsaGusqL+mcHsN9P13b+LLdBuciIRrSO1+gkjNcZ7omlJ yWeQ== Wed, 09 Jul 2014 15:27:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.88.198 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 15:27:38 -0700 (PDT) References: <8D168F8FC6756EC-29A0-146F5@webmail-vm038.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 15:27:38 -0700 From: Jay Laifman To: Warren Goodman Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] AC repop Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Bummer. I forgot about the Oxnard show. We will be autocrossing at the Camarillo airport on the 20th. But, no, won't be championing any British iron - we are taking only, what one of my favorite lurkers on this website would call them - krautmobiles. But at least my daughter and son will be competing too. Last time my daughter spun out, and thought I'd be upset - nothing further than the truth. I was proud that she was not just being a sissy around the track, but pushing it beyond the limits.. Jay On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Warren Goodman wrote: > IDK if everyone has read about the AC air cleaner housing on CAT. I have a > proof that is very nice but not the finished product. I will be going to > the > Central Coast British show in Oxnard on the 20th. I have ended up being a > partner in the project, my first choice was to let CAT market the product > but > that could not happen. Our mfg guy has been making auto parts for some > time > and would be a good contact for those considering MK2 wheel arch fab's. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B917D25858B4 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 16:59:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D4C258586A for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 16:58:56 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-oedge01 smtp.user=todbrown@roadrunner.com; auth=pass (PLAIN) Received: from [216.47.53.56] ([216.47.53.56:49253] helo=[192.168.2.6]) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTPA id 5B/26-23385-D39CDB35; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 22:59:10 +0000 Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 18:58:57 -0400 From: Tod Brown To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mark II Trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Hi All: I don't know if it is possible, but it seems to me that, given the recent advances in 3-D printing, it might be possible to reproduce the moldings in plastic and have them silver coated. I think a lot of auto moldings are done this way nowadays. The advantage would, hopefully, be the lowered cost. If done well enough, only someone with a sharp eye would know. If the price turns out low enough, it would be a wise move on the part of every MkII owner to buy a set as a backup, or even as the primary set so as to preserve the original. I have a friend with a MkII who needs one piece of side trim who would be very pleased with such a solution. Just a thought for discussion. Tod B382002384LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 615DF2585701 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 17:29:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f178.google.com (mail-vc0-f178.google.com [209.85.220.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D04F2580751 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 17:26:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id ij19so9166465vcb.9 for ; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 16:26:49 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=OoyfRXAW4YUnylN+M7GG6evuiXlW/4X43BPkLnIRLLw=; b=OQjdEAkMvoYxeTSEvcgdLeaSAisrBZoZriqOpOHVK9jhJiKn3dekQS6v8Ndfd8sEFK y0M1LIs+3wTXj8URXxHhUeIFq62De1NWsAwPsiuSqm3shzJtWYzgDmfHrV4Tw8WojOGU Z5nYr1v/Jdh5rSLdc0+TuqUoPTXvQIvGaSua7trl7J74quhHjftFh8FHzy71HpCco4L/ 9qVw0T0wR+JolP0JrSG7K/6tZ3Z8wNdNhkBA2iy+ttpb4+uJFt0Nw2wCwwXkB1I/6TB0 uOKrN9SD4BAyjHFP88UJ568Z5+p24iNuW7t99JmZmlTbG5yK6fl9AFq53SE+4f98id3f grpQ== e10mr2442408vdw.54.1404948409112; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 16:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.88.198 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 16:26:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 16:26:49 -0700 From: Jay Laifman To: "Tiger's Den" Subject: [Tigers] Power Shifts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Ok, I realize that there are differences of opinions, and they are not all correct - but the holders usually believe their opinion is right. My dad brought me up saying that power shifts were not good, a quick way to burn out a clutch, and not the fastest way to accelerate. He said it was better to match speeds, and not to put full power down before the clutch was engaged. By "power shift" I mean an upshift with the clutch in, where after you've pushed the lever into the next gear, you floor it, then drop the clutch. I've been to countless car races and I can't say I've ever heard a racer do that. I've never done it. So my sister was over this last weekend with her husband and son. The son was showing off his new Ford SUV that he swapped out the automatic and dropped in a manual. It was some cool work, and he should be proud. However, when he took my son for a drive, he did full power shifts - bragging about getting rubber even in 3rd gear. When they came back, he showed my son some You Tube videos of guys doing the same. My brother-in-law who has some amateur drag racing in his past, just chuckled and didn't suggest anything was wrong with it. What do people think about this? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338162580773 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 17:49:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B406E2580751 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 17:49:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004962.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s69NqXES004740; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 16:52:50 -0700 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a206) id dm0213.53bcbcb6.e17d; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 16:49:07 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.146.167]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 23:49:05 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Tod Brown'" , Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 19:49:01 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+byWrTgA600h0vTp2vqFMTrTdG1QABYmmw engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-07-09_06:2014-07-09,2014-07-09,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1407090283 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mark II Trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I believe some of the 3-D printers work with sintered metal however I have no idea if that is a good option for this trim part. The next problem is someone having a 3-D printer large enough for the parts. Some of the Colleges, Trade schools and Universities should be offering courses in 3-D printers but I have not investigated to know if they do. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tod Brown Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 6:59 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mark II Trim Hi All: I don't know if it is possible, but it seems to me that, given the recent advances in 3-D printing, it might be possible to reproduce the moldings in plastic and have them silver coated. I think a lot of auto moldings are done this way nowadays. The advantage would, hopefully, be the lowered cost. If done well enough, only someone with a sharp eye would know. If the price turns out low enough, it would be a wise move on the part of every MkII owner to buy a set as a backup, or even as the primary set so as to preserve the original. I have a friend with a MkII who needs one piece of side trim who would be very pleased with such a solution. Just a thought for discussion. Tod B382002384LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7817 - Release Date: 07/08/14 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00F4425856EA for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 17:51:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B452580751 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 17:51:51 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1404949924; bh=aBy07VeAyO/tbgwlKPdG+mnG/7UYPrI2MTU5xqoZTd8=; b=IDTa5SHnM80cnBUw+4SNohmRZduBucF0x2O01XV4woBO9Yl0DnSDiQteCAM4/+5Ff8GF8zyQv7IlclHv1kdaP+VTz8UKq/Dg02q9dL11AQ5Bni1Zv59nijbsvOSgQNpHZ6ZOqlyvY1Qu7VuHgP5xd8mGZF/ePVE4rGsXAvwpd1fay5YTra7LOyZz356AS61I9sMJhTBJU3tcsKaSbcSEq7Whx7ZoK1LSIYA15zHgoPPZxweJDv35Rz+fn2Opsu3mRgwIz1jYx33q8/+q43oH6+8A0aMbw/VDBJu+IbBCK7dcItwdQmzJbvGfsC13uhF3XsEpCABd+JVNfBXApGVDRQ== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=pacbell.net; b=MwT2L/itftlD5omQMNAbHX70xlRt+wwjTvZtI2ydbIlgkGL/HIv54SrMzC+zlSzymGZI3reGsYsynZYvpjC7uQv6R7bbsS803ORlPZ/1O/o77lAVx6KdHQgJYRHuhe8Dc6PBMs7QTEWGR82cVMu5W8HBsH6ggpOyTBdJRvkB+rQAZREwWAjugsv1iuOXGUA7vruz0zTJO7A2Hs4niYpdyrjxpj+Z3qiptZAtdUzZPlzmwUnFL6AfLI/C5C1LfyMGlOeKG3xhimN9zGFBjok/qiiAknRqktHidQSTB/qDNRAdsMNEEIdAn+hH+iE0XAUppiJKMYbFzY8wfwMnUe7TCA==; Received: from [98.137.12.190] by nm22.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jul 2014 23:52:04 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.192] by tm11.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jul 2014 23:52:04 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Jul 2014 23:52:04 -0000 s=s1024; t=1404949924; bh=aBy07VeAyO/tbgwlKPdG+mnG/7UYPrI2MTU5xqoZTd8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=QHgVdtib0kK1VGaWXyv00DtD8ZnXamJHTGLk+aIvrj8YTjyVa9FUIqNrdttEGIydERXf6RqePEltvnZRKnAB5svaMU37NY2eLUISiujJ4pI2wgNji7KbikDn6BWfiPu3bvFZEBjfywn/I70lGjKeQdZ8pa6MDzd66hdggCtB9H4= 10MT2swa14csdx.rvRGeOyEXwgkXqn.qAZH.bXXAnPnH6ayhJxOEg5Bcfan0 DoKzKBccfpC_gHaX5vqL.WDm11JkAZVy5fxJSiem_BspqhihcYVV7AGPiH3L E6Q1D.s.FjrmvjS5vvTwjAAUQrUrN0iBqhmmsjE_7boWqkL6ksfRb1Hzr2J6 2bFPKY0Dj1VY1gjPFW9mc1Vu6SGWk8zyxZ_gU8dBzC0M5gbE80EXqEgLZDde GEg4et7IstPSDFC9jP6xHVaWWpl9oLrPtgBNpUicbG6M0e4kC7iw0C3hCjTu YrEi1Q6kW2vGAw3kd2SUmh.dyUKSOQr1bFBXS_7yQBN75AC9OPeAkHaqxm2T hnaeAjM2dKswJGRinGO.HrqM1KfbvFgS6v673m9f1gctjCRPfQBe1JdLYcKp QU5.z9vdnbjkPzFWLavGWW30KoICe41Kjjih_5b_A3tfa9a4gbsuOnYJdrjx OueejUJf.ouDreFXpQjT7KhXLAjeePjLqdbA9rA9PseBQ5YEb1BcICdsJOf2 8wPC8vagXN23WrCrcCsWxnwcFsM43Rsh.wRV39.cv Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 16:51:56 -0700 From: Sandy User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Jay Laifman , Tiger's Den References: Subject: Re: [Tigers] Power Shifts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Their are a few cases were power shifts are good to go - 1. Rental Cars 2. Looking cool during the violent one time test of your engine and driveline. From experience it might work on the drag strip with a car set up for it doing it. From my personal experience in NON RENTAL CARS 1. Broken spider gears D44 2. Twisted pinion off D44 3. Broken U-Joints 4. Sideways into a parked car 5. Broken off shifter handle 6. Broken engine mount 7. Destroyed engine thrust bearing 8. Cracked/removed friction material on clutch disk And so on. Never broke a gear box, but plenty of time for that. But now that I'm older and somewhat wiser (only a little) I now reserve the speed shifting for rental cars when manuals trans are available. If you want to go fast for drag racing just get an automatic something ;) IMO it's all around it bad for everything although wickedly fun when done correctly. Sandy Quote - "Is it true Mr. Frankenstein that you can shift faster then a 1/60th of a second"... No Comment On 7/9/2014 4:26 PM, Jay Laifman wrote: > Ok, I realize that there are differences of opinions, and they are not all > correct - but the holders usually believe their opinion is right. My dad > brought me up saying that power shifts were not good, a quick way to burn > out a clutch, and not the fastest way to accelerate. He said it was better > to match speeds, and not to put full power down before the clutch was > engaged. By "power shift" I mean an upshift with the clutch in, where > after you've pushed the lever into the next gear, you floor it, then drop > the clutch. I've been to countless car races and I can't say I've ever > heard a racer do that. I've never done it. > > So my sister was over this last weekend with her husband and son. The son > was showing off his new Ford SUV that he swapped out the automatic and > dropped in a manual. It was some cool work, and he should be proud. > However, when he took my son for a drive, he did full power shifts - > bragging about getting rubber even in 3rd gear. When they came back, he > showed my son some You Tube videos of guys doing the same. My > brother-in-law who has some amateur drag racing in his past, just chuckled > and didn't suggest anything was wrong with it. > > What do people think about this? > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sganz@pacbell.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB3042580751 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 18:15:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-36.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A7482580751 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 18:14:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta002.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s6A0CGc6005996; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 17:14:29 -0700 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a206) id dm0213.53bcbcb6.e517; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 17:14:21 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.146.167]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 00:14:19 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Jay Laifman'" , "'Tiger's Den'" Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 20:14:16 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+bzbJbNnvHn3ivS5qK/Ezi8/usngAAxokg engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-07-09_06:2014-07-09,2014-07-09,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1407100001 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Power Shifts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Jay Not into it myself. Considering how difficult and time consuming it is to replace a clutch or transmission on most vehicles today I would not do it. I also do not want a flywheel or clutch ripping past my foot or any other body part if they happen to fail. I consider spinning tires and sliding sideways, the slow way to go forward. I'm just not into drifting. You need a tire sponsor when you burn up a set of tires every 10 miles. Drag racers have clutch packs that are designed for full power slipping. They also have all the safety equipment and parts to contain any shrapnel and usually a budget to handle those situations. Last time I side stepped the clutch was in a 71 Datsun 510 - thought I was going to have to rebuild the master and slave cylinders for the clutch. I'm not sure what happened but I did not have a clutch pedal for about 5 minutes; it did finally come back and seemed fine. I won't do that again. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Laifman Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 7:27 PM To: Tiger's Den Subject: [Tigers] Power Shifts Ok, I realize that there are differences of opinions, and they are not all correct - but the holders usually believe their opinion is right. My dad brought me up saying that power shifts were not good, a quick way to burn out a clutch, and not the fastest way to accelerate. He said it was better to match speeds, and not to put full power down before the clutch was engaged. By "power shift" I mean an upshift with the clutch in, where after you've pushed the lever into the next gear, you floor it, then drop the clutch. I've been to countless car races and I can't say I've ever heard a racer do that. I've never done it. So my sister was over this last weekend with her husband and son. The son was showing off his new Ford SUV that he swapped out the automatic and dropped in a manual. It was some cool work, and he should be proud. However, when he took my son for a drive, he did full power shifts - bragging about getting rubber even in 3rd gear. When they came back, he showed my son some You Tube videos of guys doing the same. My brother-in-law who has some amateur drag racing in his past, just chuckled and didn't suggest anything was wrong with it. What do people think about this? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7817 - Release Date: 07/08/14 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93C72584594 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 18:22:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from wavecable.net (cgbe-5.wavecable.com [24.113.32.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D27EF2580751 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 18:22:01 -0600 (MDT) a=n4nCgACdt7rXIePKTxGtBQ==:117 a=n4nCgACdt7rXIePKTxGtBQ==:17 a=oLXg_eO6B-kA:10 a=KCAr3pX66uQA:10 a=jPJDawAOAc8A:10 a=1DP8XHvC6M4A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=cKxik7jdpHoA:10 a=iBb_pUaqAAAA:8 a=-9dKnBYLAAAA:8 a=UnzTgHv9AAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=S1tUqhxo3I0iRZoaJwcA:9 a=ylSG0yfrnxNMbQbj:21 a=iRY2MJdvUyB9VTin:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=a0o1xVR2z_QA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 Received: from [76.14.96.71] (HELO starstream.net) by cgfe-8-mx.wavecable.net (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.5) with ESMTP id 575045877 for tigers@autox.team.net; Wed, 09 Jul 2014 17:17:55 -0700 Received: from STARMAIL [76.14.96.71] by starstream.net (SMTPD-12.2.0.235) id e53900a3fc9bd8b1; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 17:44:27 -0700 From: "DERRICK SCHMIDT" To: "'Tiger's Den'" Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2014 17:44:27 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Power Shifts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO My toploader and rear end were built by Tom of Tom's Differentials (supposedly where Shirley Muldowney got her rear ends built back in the day). He said I could take it to red line, side step the clutch and at least from 1st to 2nd and 3rd to 4th I could leave my foot on the floor and just yank on the shifter. Of course he didn't mention drive shaft or engine. Have I ever tried it? No. Will I ever try it? Highly unlikely. FWIW ---- Original Message ---- From: "Ron Fraser" Sent: 7/9/2014 5:38:06 PM To: "'Jay Laifman'" , "'Tiger's Den'" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Power Shifts Jay Not into it myself. Considering how difficult and time consuming it is to replace a clutch or transmission on most vehicles today I would not do it. I also do not want a flywheel or clutch ripping past my foot or any other body part if they happen to fail. I consider spinning tires and sliding sideways, the slow way to go forward. I'm just not into drifting. You need a tire sponsor when you burn up a set of tires every 10 miles. Drag racers have clutch packs that are designed for full power slipping. They also have all the safety equipment and parts to contain any shrapnel and usually a budget to handle those situations. Last time I side stepped the clutch was in a 71 Datsun 510 - thought I was going to have to rebuild the master and slave cylinders for the clutch. I'm not sure what happened but I did not have a clutch pedal for about 5 minutes; it did finally come back and seemed fine. I won't do that again. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Laifman Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 7:27 PM To: Tiger's Den Subject: [Tigers] Power Shifts Ok, I realize that there are differences of opinions, and they are not all correct - but the holders usually believe their opinion is right. My dad brought me up saying that power shifts were not good, a quick way to burn out a clutch, and not the fastest way to accelerate. He said it was better to match speeds, and not to put full power down before the clutch was engaged. By "power shift" I mean an upshift with the clutch in, where after you've pushed the lever into the next gear, you floor it, then drop the clutch. I've been to countless car races and I can't say I've ever heard a racer do that. I've never done it. So my sister was over this last weekend with her husband and son. The son was showing off his new Ford SUV that he swapped out the automatic and dropped in a manual. It was some cool work, and he should be proud. However, when he took my son for a drive, he did full power shifts - bragging about getting rubber even in 3rd gear. When they came back, he showed my son some You Tube videos of guys doing the same. My brother-in-law who has some amateur drag racing in his past, just chuckled and didn't suggest anything was wrong with it. What do people think about this? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4FDE2584576 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 19:01:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2739B2580766 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 18:56:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.87]) by qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QQwB1o0041swQuc5DQwdkn; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 00:56:37 +0000 Received: from sbrennanPC ([98.229.210.30]) by omta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QQwd1o00B0fu9Ni3bQwdCf; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 00:56:37 +0000 From: "Stu Brennan" To: "DERRICK SCHMIDT" , "'Tiger's Den'" References: <20140709174474.SM10747035@STARMAIL> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 20:56:38 -0400 s=q20140121; t=1404953797; bh=e1ym7b3v0czE9LYD4CVWGn02UlIv8j9BWIgu22CrhPQ=; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=vjbJ3iLWFZVMdITgDXpcpmPzxb/cIk2DLEIV1A8FABDiaTTqzNnIuhyLBdySYT4Od 27pqCw0SExN1X2rMVJ6Bwd1xrUiCb1zFOX7xYXU3oNaHkCMs+SDX6c7mkE1ntvT/Hp hbzOpSu1xeAEfKYqTWs/dUMVPW+nd5SygZLgwwg5Sg7avT098CatNXREwcTY55fVyG cHpGEmTbiqSaLVFvMJUhxhAphG+SSKo6LUwgWJqwKL/Lb4FKgaGY6Lg6Rla5xAfWNY HG/eRY4AWfzTZN0cDbk9s/j8K1l1iUweJZmwiSlL5HJ9zjiUUTtDfxS68BEvC3l6lE Sob5yxtuO4/Ww== Subject: Re: [Tigers] Power Shifts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I'll bet he gets a lot of repeat customers with advice like that... Stu _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8F982580777 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 20:03:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1CE5F2580766 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 20:00:09 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1404957621; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=To:Date:Subject:Content-Type:From:Message-Id; b=DrXxP/TQSAvQa9KH9yQldQeiwslnjktAjLqVrqE6uMFavcIr6A+Kd7ym9S6CmeWHX KyTZRXdXMy+hq8+1x5sUOYfDGXe8hok1v0zoNCQPyVgOg2bVKAIrfgwAKjoy/eHaYm ls5Irk5hczQByk9wGcjxtbDxYSTQjGmq0sUKG/Fs= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (mailpop10.vgs.untd.com [10.181.45.30]) by smtpout01.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABK5566NAR728W2 for (sender ); Wed, 9 Jul 2014 18:59:40 -0700 (PDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 18:58:24 -0800 From: Subject: [Tigers] Wells Fargo Sunbeam posters Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO It may be past time, BUT there MAY be a poster or 3 to be had at your local Wells Fargo bank. Wells Fargo did a promo poster with a Sunbeam, with 3 different configs, that ended June 30. I tried to get them 2 times and was told "it is NOT company policy to give that stuff away" HOWEVER, another Sunbeam person has scored 2 posters, and gave me 1! I was told the replacement posters are running late, so give it a shot at your local bank. Good luck. DW ____________________________________________________________ #1 Trick to FIGHT carbs Easy trick btweaksb hormones to control blood sugar & boost fat loss http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/53bdf38caee84738c50d8st01vuc _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723BA25856C8 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 21:50:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1lp0140.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.140]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2602825803F9 for ; Wed, 9 Jul 2014 21:49:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com (10.242.233.147) by BY2PR01MB153.prod.exchangelabs.com (10.242.233.140) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.980.8; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 03:49:58 +0000 Received: from BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com ([10.242.233.147]) by BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com ([10.242.233.147]) with mapi id 15.00.0980.000; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 03:49:58 +0000 From: "Teepen, Jere" To: "spmdr@juno.com" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Wells Fargo Sunbeam posters Thread-Index: AQHPm+MlscdQnFuiHE2a5sa92xRwYZuYq5xw Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 03:49:57 +0000 References: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [167.8.69.4] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID: x-forefront-prvs: 0268246AE7 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(189002)(199002)(13464003)(377454003)(85852003)(19580395003)(107046002)(74662001)(83072002)(15202345003)(92566001)(15975445006)(86362001)(2656002)(21056001)(107886001)(87936001)(66066001)(101416001)(64706001)(85306003)(106356001)(80022001)(95666004)(556994011)(20776003)(81542001)(74316001)(99396002)(76482001)(79102001)(76176999)(59786011)(81342001)(4396001)(106116001)(74502001)(83322001)(19580405001)(50986999)(31966008)(46102001)(105586002)(33646001)(77982001)(54356999)(108616002)(569874001)(24736002); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2PR01MB153; H:BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; LANG:en; Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wells Fargo Sunbeam posters Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO The photo that is used on the Wells Fargo promo posters has been used several times before for other companies' advertising campaigns. I recall seeing it used for some sort of Ralph's grocery effort a couple of years ago and in some magazine ads, also a couple of years ago. Nice to see it though. 'Bout time... -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of spmdr@juno.com Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2014 7:58 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Wells Fargo Sunbeam posters It may be past time, BUT there MAY be a poster or 3 to be had at your local Wells Fargo bank. Wells Fargo did a promo poster with a Sunbeam, with 3 different configs, that ended June 30. I tried to get them 2 times and was told "it is NOT company policy to give that stuff away" HOWEVER, another Sunbeam person has scored 2 posters, and gave me 1! I was told the replacement posters are running late, so give it a shot at your local bank. Good luck. DW ____________________________________________________________ #1 Trick to FIGHT carbs Easy trick btweaksb hormones to control blood sugar & boost fat loss http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/53bdf38caee84738c50d8st01vuc _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 228572580A32 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:20:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f51.google.com (mail-la0-f51.google.com [209.85.215.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DC125808D2 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 12:19:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-la0-f51.google.com with SMTP id mc6so6507643lab.38 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:19:35 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=0+ZdaeGA9mkWqAcXJtRlcI9vdEz2Et+1SPmY5EZVkNU=; b=LBv1Ur2B9vUHBCaF/vK5vari/gFqZvF2dmBTc2J4UWPV149yOt1uRp6XwtSp+qglww LHa/6MrkA0NwlXD2qoCtk3PelSycFE5uBtU0Mzgxp0Uftk98KUoJoRsOG1oAXPOAtEHb dUMpOrLw6X+I7M0sPfWLpQ2Bdfb5gZA9ozq+ytPelwpxOvz1J9uzDA5Wvz2gPG+paBvw u0xYVuTXKZrf76EXA37tkqUtUAvDvrg379I56bSTsnO1moYXP30Re0DRQMqVv9xnPGsm SOCPERePJVE6zFa+tJNplvGqZSMN1VgfdyDQc11f+VVRZ5yO6E2ivaUkaMRDx7bk43RD mPNg== Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.5.161 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:19:35 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:19:35 -0500 From: Mark Kim To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 158 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Also an article in the current American Airlines magazine on convertibles, with references to famous movie/TV cars. A Tiger caricature is featured at the beginning of the article.... > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 18:58:24 -0800 > From: > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Wells Fargo Sunbeam posters > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > It may be past time, BUT there MAY be a poster > > or 3 to be had at your local Wells Fargo bank. > > Wells Fargo did a promo poster with a Sunbeam, > > with 3 different configs, that ended June 30. > > I tried to get them 2 times and was told "it is NOT > > company policy to give that stuff away" > > HOWEVER, another Sunbeam person has scored 2 > > posters, and gave me 1! > > I was told the replacement posters are running late, > > so give it a shot at your local bank. > > Good luck. > > DW _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F562580AE9 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:05:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm43.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm43.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.120.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDEA725807A2 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:01:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm43.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2014 19:01:47 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.114] by nm43.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2014 18:58:47 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.200] by tm105.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2014 18:58:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1009.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2014 18:58:43 -0000 Received: (qmail 67145 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jul 2014 18:58:43 -0000 s=s1024; t=1405018723; bh=vukqz0FQ73fwcXVoVp93RsZTLhxAzveXKZAL5/pLvCY=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bkUZqV9ZWvH6DDHHQxz29UWTb/NigRPPrhhOwOlNHPsHJ72cbqhYBTKSuDeJmBf/m2X8OkUwpQuBkQ88fcoMBLe3d5PfijsXg/5k2vbA5APu1sELovtUogPzKIPa0NUNIH9GqbONnpMKR3PJwULVrMo+VlUeiqCJ4LPN8OCtLmk= m_GkcWdvvqimV7Ff6cZMwHz.7WQLWKgJOXmbaXZTWQN_sFSZ9KNXr3xZ2F4m .yJuO5CN0sDVI43j0ERTlO7rBLr43KF6jVn9bnS7.y6KGhGzQFTl_o1LNHDQ SdGP_LiMG4T4gRvArrzydiaSjN9b6mP8WR8e5M6szwnjLxDj17HoE7diHEPB _wK__q69oyLQp5yrsJPt.Zhh4oxkUBHCyR25YUmc5doKYAe.5jo8T3jr2r._ I26r.atuUGBcwiR_iFAI.5RTENo.ehdnVrJPBTPvXB36RRu95lCBLAuINEP9 djypIWklF0XMaGWFrr1MqD_6SRNkBzy0AKGqwjcVO3NaSshNYBRPJnznOyy7 _H8H7tRIb1bwX.UTUKu38N9mPUC8UFYoDEyIYJ62Ap8l2fI4CWEIZ63dM6mm Vc3PNd0iBOMunBA4fx6IaBzumHefCvhl_dsJLKZFGY_QHB6D59yADzgZxnMc 0e2QW7sq4NChLYDCGKCfe73X7Wno_limxzUG_JeQVlNLuhqBvySBwb8QI Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:58:43 PDT VGhlIGxpbmsgdG8gdGhlIEFtZXJpY2FuIEFpcmxpbmVzIG1hZ2F6aW5lIHN0b3J5IG9uIGNvbnZlcnRpYmxlcwpFbmQgb2YgYW4gRXJhPyA6OiBBbWVyaWNhbiBXYXkgTWFnYXppbmUKCsKgIArCoCAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgCkVuZCBvZiBhbiBFcmE_IDo6IEFtZXJpY2FuIFdheSBNYWdhemluZQpJbGx1c3RyYXRpb24gYnkgSm9obiBTLiBEeWtlcyBBbHRob3VnaCBzb21lIG1vZGVscyBzdXJ2aXZlIGFuZCBhIGZldyBuZXcgb25lcyBhcmUgcGxhbm5lZCzCoG1hc3MgcHJvZHVjdGlvbiBvZiBjb252ZXJ0aWIBMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:58:43 -0700 From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tigers - link Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO The link to the American Airlines magazine story on convertibles End of an Era? :: American Way Magazine End of an Era? :: American Way Magazine Illustration by John S. Dykes Although some models survive and a few new ones are planned, mass production of convertibles has slowed to a trickle. View on hub.aa.com Preview by Yahoo _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BCB82584522 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:10:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f171.google.com (mail-vc0-f171.google.com [209.85.220.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D090425844DD for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:10:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id id10so218305vcb.2 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:10:42 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=i1Vzorra0FhjRe5SEdT41iTaYaQpb0liI3Q+Hd/p65o=; b=Mqeog/eRi8h2dbVQ3XzazI5lTMDw+HNfJcWlwlyq4fykSeR1QjjKggoRTrOO2NiDmH IpllsAloyKxNtxGD1oeXNokudIjGqLA9SJIE8VPpKaOuoHZCEtEZErelIRcf3pVZ1FN0 0LpdGIANF+n/56hAPlQQaqzL8D5zgoruGk+9xAUcdcFLe+OiOh6t0qODmiV8uHQ+RYHt 0WeqHZyOgQOA0F64m5zGgfONKbWx52Lb5faDTDbn7QASjZt4Jt+7tSna++urLUhtAa3M 0KhUYoms9dDH3JD3f1F9gPvhuUc19G7IiEE9ROeqN14MzOGjrdl5oI1lKYpz2yNnFZwz YD7A== ks11mr49054542veb.20.1405023042851; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.249.66 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:10:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.249.66 with HTTP; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:10:42 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:10:42 -0400 From: Chip Broadbooks To: spmdr@juno.com Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Wells Fargo Sunbeam posters Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Think I might have just lined up one or two of these.... Crossing my fingers. Yes, Jerry; if I get two, one will be headed your way. You can put it in your trophy room. On Jul 9, 2014 10:03 PM, wrote: > It may be past time, BUT there MAY be a poster > > or 3 to be had at your local Wells Fargo bank. > > Wells Fargo did a promo poster with a Sunbeam, > > with 3 different configs, that ended June 30. > > I tried to get them 2 times and was told "it is NOT > > company policy to give that stuff away" > > HOWEVER, another Sunbeam person has scored 2 > > posters, and gave me 1! > > I was told the replacement posters are running late, > > so give it a shot at your local bank. > > Good luck. > > DW > > ____________________________________________________________ > #1 Trick to FIGHT carbs > Easy trick b tweaksb hormones to control blood sugar & boost fat loss > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/53bdf38caee84738c50d8st01vuc > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/chip.broadbooks@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C324625844F1 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:52:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6313F2580A55 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 14:52:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta16.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.88]) by qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QkHh1o0011uE5Es5EksMJC; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:52:21 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-257v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.49.36]) by omta16.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QksM1o00Q0mrEtN3cksMxL; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:52:21 +0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:52:21 +0000 (UTC) From: George Re To: Tigers (Mac)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: Front wheel bearing numbers Thread-Index: ckPTajuIluhjsjy9PAm5rcECD+hOpg== s=q20140121; t=1405025541; bh=SVIiaCvbM4LbNJ/EDYBAkWiy8qblwTAKvUATlRk1doU=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=VzK0/yVhiHpXPh++hm3TZ3sYNs05D/iLs1xc7eCCVD0fq05yjg9QJG9+NeY08VH7b 3aDo9Oj9/k3J+G2gVcWM+Ojlqch0Fr7GfuF6G8ot02doh2E3bxWGSKaOFL6Yfs6Day dqVg5eqVEV7shEFtGOrsLYvLSVjjG3UxgX1uTh6GKSIeGkDOnmEcHH4bYG2z7wcNzE vXP/hbK0Bxcut33EZeBIYDR+lflqanJKuig3VfhAqGfU7dxyuCECqxbvb7UlGs1ls0 7C0SJ5yeHY1EoyUgGfoGgdn97GZdQux1m6hMpN+GOLb0oePfzSVUQRQcSurakjmvCj lXlszhm6W6Hfw== Subject: [Tigers] Front wheel bearing numbers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Hi group.... I am looking to replace the inner and outer wheel bearing but am having trouble find the number for the wheel bearing. No trouble with the front 11949 BUT the rear one done not shown up, mine says AK 1988. I have tried all my local placed but no help. If you have the numbers please let me know. Thanks Again George Re _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C506725844A3 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:55:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-36.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E58E2580B48 for ; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 17:53:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta005.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s6ANo7Qn016953; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:53:55 -0700 Received: by dm0225.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 40189193) id dm0225.53bcbc9a.211ef; Thu, 10 Jul 2014 16:53:53 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'George Re'" , "'Tigers'" Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 19:53:48 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+cmjC+5KM8OfQuSeqfwhMLTXS+fA== engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-07-10_07:2014-07-10,2014-07-10,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1407100272 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Front wheel bearing numbers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO George I see SKF 1988 for the inner bearing. Try Sunbeam Specialties, they should have them in stock. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of George Re Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:52 PM To: Tigers Subject: [Tigers] Front wheel bearing numbers Hi group.... I am looking to replace the inner and outer wheel bearing but am having trouble find the number for the wheel bearing. No trouble with the front 11949 BUT the rear one done not shown up, mine says AK 1988. I have tried all my local placed but no help. If you have the numbers please let me know. Thanks Again George Re _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4716 / Virus Database: 3986/7829 - Release Date: 07/10/14 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223A42580721 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 07:57:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f54.google.com (mail-pa0-f54.google.com [209.85.220.54]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5802580318 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 07:57:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id et14so1506079pad.41 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 06:57:31 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=NuUKEAgTYwY1L5J6somtJpfTvGKcIT2Fg+tTQxpO3dQ=; b=XjUU4qPUL3N3z8hsITBsym0XKU4WUcL3gjcYMyOTYol4Fjs8rsb/dvucHQJlpQXUPp 6sNIsW7PyNH3tERbA1dTwHu0GyqWTaDpPIBAKsF1yTB21O6Q+JPm7OZQ9xJ2vQrevoJM 9yxrdA2U6W3wAT4/hdbnVd5A/t1XYeSozk/cibEaknBu1u54CnECjgXSzbHPiAzO0htK l1vl0VNd6FAN4oPZr58cIeZMcEhgwdXnIMoF23czbMp0x4OWXAMb3J6dMMEocD4juwki SpfFJ0d6ogpvpxUIg+0gw41K9mYxzfkbQqDgV4uCLfwUACuXZ3sM1EYmRq2XiTH6/vSr TLeg== kb7mr12068349pbc.38.1405087051625; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 06:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.140.135 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 06:57:31 -0700 (PDT) References: <5B.26.23385.D39CDB35@cdptpa-oedge01> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 08:57:31 -0500 From: Cullen McCann To: Tod Brown Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mark II Trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I agree the 3d printers are going to revolutionize problems like these. I don't know for sure if it would be the perfect solution considering the material, but I like the thought behind it for these parts and possibly others that are unobtainium. From what little I know, the printing is probably not the hard part, its the accurate 3d Scan... getting a 3D representation in the machine so the printer can cut the shape. pure shapes are easy, but shapes as complex as wheel arch trim would be difficult to model in the computer without having been scanned in 3d first. There are machines out there that do this but I think they are even more specialized than the 3D printer. Well... its worth noting as part of the process. Cullen Alpine 260 On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Tod Brown wrote: > Hi All: > > I don't know if it is possible, but it seems to me that, given the recent > advances in 3-D printing, it might be possible to reproduce the moldings in > plastic and have them silver coated. I think a lot of auto moldings are > done this way nowadays. The advantage would, hopefully, be the lowered > cost. If done well enough, only someone with a sharp eye would know. If the > price turns out low enough, it would be a wise move on the part of every > MkII owner to buy a set as a backup, or even as the primary set so as to > preserve the original. I have a friend with a MkII who needs one piece of > side trim who would be very pleased with such a solution. Just a thought > for discussion. > > Tod > B382002384LRXFE > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmccann1972@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A46792584625 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 08:02:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f45.google.com (mail-oa0-f45.google.com [209.85.219.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D01F25800B6 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 08:02:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id i7so236047oag.4 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 07:02:32 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=3Z4+18U8DEvRSmAmKqYdMXTfKTmQaCu18athfKUqZ8Y=; b=eP7EvY4kV3aYx8CYBjWhfnQwRU0yLTKxFeVnrDiPAy6+noT5jwHgpdQaYl1+jptT7D 2Or+YXN6ZyhxPmbsk2m+qkpI1QuuXwKQk+4MCJT387qSKSiE/oHKStkjaaC13qxGUg7e SId8A7MMv610GNABIoaek37kAZcMDyh/6vWPkLkHjrCwY8S45047V0z6XtFcOMQV49LR Mslwlh+mNaIadJ9Fwrl1qmvFHCf1CskArcSoiRCc46IEciVDJFnuORyqhtp4UBIOqGVd REJIp3ydoINBUVT2QdbE+3nwg8xTB7Wzo83zqrKK7kI6xSmIMwNYiSHClH7PojwxMbvU aF9A== s7mr40762042obu.71.1405087352178; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 07:02:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.228.196 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 07:02:32 -0700 (PDT) References: <5B.26.23385.D39CDB35@cdptpa-oedge01> Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 22:02:32 +0800 From: michael king To: Cullen McCann Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" , Tod Brown Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mark II Trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO The modelling is not that hard for the arch trim as its essentially a single rail sweep, the profile of the arch and the trim is not difficult. 3d scanners are available.. but not needed for a job like this. you model the sectional profile of the trim and sweep it along the path of the wheel arch lip. I have 3d printed quite a few things lately.. but you need to use a powder printer for fine detail and smooth surface. There is a firm in the EU printing repro aston martin parts! On 11 July 2014 21:57, Cullen McCann wrote: > I agree the 3d printers are going to revolutionize problems like these. I > don't know for sure if it would be the perfect solution considering the > material, but I like the thought behind it for these parts and possibly > others that are unobtainium. From what little I know, the printing is > probably not the hard part, its the accurate 3d Scan... getting a 3D > representation in the machine so the printer can cut the shape. pure shapes > are easy, but shapes as complex as wheel arch trim would be difficult to > model in the computer without having been scanned in 3d first. There are > machines out there that do this but I think they are even more specialized > than the 3D printer. Well... its worth noting as part of the process. > > Cullen > Alpine 260 > > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Tod Brown wrote: > > > Hi All: > > > > I don't know if it is possible, but it seems to me that, given the recent > > advances in 3-D printing, it might be possible to reproduce the moldings > in > > plastic and have them silver coated. I think a lot of auto moldings are > > done this way nowadays. The advantage would, hopefully, be the lowered > > cost. If done well enough, only someone with a sharp eye would know. If > the > > price turns out low enough, it would be a wise move on the part of every > > MkII owner to buy a set as a backup, or even as the primary set so as to > > preserve the original. I have a friend with a MkII who needs one piece of > > side trim who would be very pleased with such a solution. Just a thought > > for discussion. > > > > Tod > > B382002384LRXFE > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmccann1972@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 023752584634 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 09:10:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from BAY004-OMC1S6.hotmail.com (bay004-omc1s6.hotmail.com [65.54.190.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E16B5258456D for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 09:10:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY177-W8 ([65.54.190.60]) by BAY004-OMC1S6.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Fri, 11 Jul 2014 08:10:48 -0700 From: David or Gary Franchi To: George Re , Tiger E-mail Q&A Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 08:10:48 -0700 References: <778148466.18759557.1405025224977.JavaMail.root@comcast.net>, <860598931.18762403.1405025541097.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> FILETIME=[4BDA9340:01CF9D1A] Subject: Re: [Tigers] Front wheel bearing numbers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO The inner bearing was BCA 1922 for the race, and BCA 1988 for bearing. David ----------------------------------------------------- > Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 20:52:21 +0000 > From: mgman71@comcast.net > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Front wheel bearing numbers > > Hi group.... I am looking to replace the inner and outer wheel bearing but am having trouble find the number for the wheel bearing. No trouble with the front 11949 BUT the rear one done not shown up, mine says AK 1988. I have tried all my local placed but no help. If you have the numbers please let me know. > > Thanks Again > George Re > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/wwwdg@webtv.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:41 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF2502584580 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 10:05:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1blp0189.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.189]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E0D2580698 for ; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 10:05:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com (10.242.233.147) by BY2PR01MB153.prod.exchangelabs.com (10.242.233.140) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.980.8; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 16:05:42 +0000 Received: from BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com ([10.242.233.147]) by BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com ([10.242.233.147]) with mapi id 15.00.0980.000; Fri, 11 Jul 2014 16:05:42 +0000 From: "Teepen, Jere" To: Cullen McCann Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Mark II Trim Thread-Index: AQHPm8lomKrj/peYxUm5oHwu4Yaq9pua6IqAgAAj0M0= Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2014 16:05:41 +0000 References: <5B.26.23385.D39CDB35@cdptpa-oedge01>, Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [174.234.193.141] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID: x-forefront-prvs: 02698DF457 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(53754006)(377454003)(24454002)(199002)(189002)(51704005)(92726001)(74502001)(4396001)(20776003)(106116001)(82746002)(105586002)(79102001)(76176999)(81342001)(77982001)(54356999)(83322001)(31966008)(1411001)(46102001)(50986999)(83716003)(33656002)(19580405001)(86362001)(76482001)(2656002)(85306003)(66066001)(110136001)(107046002)(85852003)(19580395003)(83072002)(92566001)(74662001)(95666004)(80022001)(64706001)(81542001)(21056001)(99396002)(36756003)(106356001)(87936001)(101416001)(104396001); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2PR01MB153; H:BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; LANG:en; Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" , Tod Brown Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mark II Trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO I was fortunate enough due to my smart kid to tour the SpaceX facility. They have some amazing stuff there (of course). We saw items made from 3D printing that were made from inconel. They said it is better to print the inconel parts than try to machine it from billet as the printing gets the part close to the shape needed and can be final machined at that point. If you are not familiar with inconel, do a google search. Cool stuff. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 11, 2014, at 6:57 AM, "Cullen McCann" wrote: > > I agree the 3d printers are going to revolutionize problems like these. I > don't know for sure if it would be the perfect solution considering the > material, but I like the thought behind it for these parts and possibly > others that are unobtainium. From what little I know, the printing is > probably not the hard part, its the accurate 3d Scan... getting a 3D > representation in the machine so the printer can cut the shape. pure shapes > are easy, but shapes as complex as wheel arch trim would be difficult to > model in the computer without having been scanned in 3d first. There are > machines out there that do this but I think they are even more specialized > than the 3D printer. Well... its worth noting as part of the process. > > Cullen > Alpine 260 > > >> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 5:58 PM, Tod Brown wrote: >> >> Hi All: >> >> I don't know if it is possible, but it seems to me that, given the recent >> advances in 3-D printing, it might be possible to reproduce the moldings in >> plastic and have them silver coated. I think a lot of auto moldings are >> done this way nowadays. The advantage would, hopefully, be the lowered >> cost. If done well enough, only someone with a sharp eye would know. If the >> price turns out low enough, it would be a wise move on the part of every >> MkII owner to buy a set as a backup, or even as the primary set so as to >> preserve the original. I have a friend with a MkII who needs one piece of >> side trim who would be very pleased with such a solution. Just a thought >> for discussion. >> >> Tod >> B382002384LRXFE >> _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C6825806EB for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 08:55:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo203.cox.net (eastrmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.218]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA5025803B2 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 08:53:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo209 ([68.230.241.224]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140714145319.BDPI2658.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo209> for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 10:53:19 -0400 Received: from eastrmwml113 ([172.18.18.217]) by eastrmimpo209 with cox id SEtK1o00Q4h0NJL01EtKz4; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 10:53:19 -0400 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:17 a=xY5cUhdWNJ4A:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=UyHOC7Gu_PIA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=Jm470xa0XD3HjvxXM6QA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 204.61.12.74 by webmail.east.cox.net; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 10:53:19 -0400 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 10:53:19 -0400 From: To: tigers@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: [Tigers] Dipstick (the item, not the derogatory term) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Hey, guys: Got a question about dipsticks for 260 Tigers. Since my 260 came from a '64 Fairlane, the dipstick has a longish handle that sticks upward, sort of like an extension of the dipstick itself. I figure that handle configuration will foul the hood when it is in the down position. I've looked at old roadtest pics of Tigers back in the day and have seen two configurations of dipsticks, both on what must be early Mk1s; one has the short loop handle on it and the other has the same handle that mine has only it is bent downward to lay flat across the front of the generator. Does anyone know if there was any ryhme or reason to which dipstick is correct for the Tiger? Did Ford maybe use whatever they had in stock at the time, thereby making either one acceptable from an originality standpoint? BTW...if it helps, my engine batch # is B19KC. One other thing, just in case it matters...I am planning on running the LAT-2 Engine Dress-Up kit, which means that the dipstick handle would need to be of the chromed variety. Thanks for any suggestions, Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DAB2580432 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 09:33:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-35.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA2B2580697 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 09:33:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta001.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s6EFUSOv015970; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 08:33:25 -0700 Received: by dm0225.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a206) id dm0225.53bcbc9a.628e0; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 08:33:23 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.145.111]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 15:33:16 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: , Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 11:33:11 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+fc6cR6/at3lN/SnenmjCgAFrxKgAA88gg engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-07-14_02:2014-07-14,2014-07-14,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1407140177 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dipstick (the item, not the derogatory term) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Andy The Parts list shows this part as 1224808 - no Ford part # - dipstick - with a note C4JZ-6750-A 6100489 - C2OZ-6754-A Dipstick tube It is very possible Rootes modified the Ford dipstick to fit under the Tiger bonnet. The LAT 2 picture looks like a repop of the Shelby American dress up kit. My guess is that those are not the exact look of the parts for the Tiger Kit. Anyone have a picture of the real Tiger dress up Kit parts? Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of awtiger@cox.net Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 10:53 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Dipstick (the item, not the derogatory term) Hey, guys: Got a question about dipsticks for 260 Tigers. Since my 260 came from a '64 Fairlane, the dipstick has a longish handle that sticks upward, sort of like an extension of the dipstick itself. I figure that handle configuration will foul the hood when it is in the down position. I've looked at old roadtest pics of Tigers back in the day and have seen two configurations of dipsticks, both on what must be early Mk1s; one has the short loop handle on it and the other has the same handle that mine has only it is bent downward to lay flat across the front of the generator. Does anyone know if there was any ryhme or reason to which dipstick is correct for the Tiger? Did Ford maybe use whatever they had in stock at the time, thereby making either one acceptable from an originality standpoint? BTW...if it helps, my engine batch # is B19KC. One other thing, just in case it matters...I am planning on running the LAT-2 Engine Dress-Up kit, which means that the dipstick handle would need to be of the chromed variety. Thanks for any suggestions, Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB74E2580694 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 09:57:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f52.google.com (mail-qg0-f52.google.com [209.85.192.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D82AE2580316 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 09:56:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id f51so3509209qge.25 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 08:56:57 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:mime-version :content-type; bh=qMEdmu5NPBJaY/2Zsy/1lglycgSkicnp2Q6Q0z8B2dE=; b=py+4MBjIFjZty/75Nq9qC2CmLuLfJCBE6RJKl58ovMhox/c1XnbR8oWe/Nhbl23ZFL cjF0IKO6547Lfpysqty8xzChydAnLfJc0/8YZBumAt70nneBFcIphKnfgUk7JXe1rwW1 RvlHnWK8TF0U5FvNuQciRMnCcfrhjTqIFkPUg= d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:from:to:references:in-reply-to :subject:date:mime-version:content-type; bh=qMEdmu5NPBJaY/2Zsy/1lglycgSkicnp2Q6Q0z8B2dE=; b=Q73o+tD1Kj3BwgE6Q7SiLZov9/E81tPrBzWaXTmhZXsFp4mZV7Zs+qje8Av08xvRXu 2HoKOTgOGwmvUIlZnM3RYDwYiZjqbo27IIz/NohRuTvATL0kYT1jeDBpKx2LvuBbBEJI 0SKsUQNLWq0/ekNw7BgXJeRxWqQ8TyCovE7mFM/gB+zCQA4cDkIVeQBIvc6IiTmZCYlM EQzvNKEzCcG0MY5Tbr0Ko0jSdLbXq5Z+6byxrcjmoJ/tbACUR7NeNkXKHK6Gfiye6/aB FRqipqGrW5ZWlDvK5UDeCGr0Sm838LhQ1TgNZdnjSxfITPLbs57Bw4fz677PkJn/G4DM 6j7w== x17mr24918120qaw.49.1405353416937; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 08:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DavePC (DRMONS0540W-142167138166.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.ns.bellaliant.net. [142.167.138.166]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o10sm21029560qat.0.2014.07.14.08.56.49 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 14 Jul 2014 08:56:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dave Munroe" To: , , References: Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 12:56:46 -0300 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dipstick (the item, not the derogatory term) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Hi guys; These photos may confuse more than help, but they were sent to this List a few years back by a fellow Lister whose name I have since forgotten, shame on me. But on the chance they may help, fill your boots! Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: " Ron Fraser" To: ; Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dipstick (the item, not the derogatory term) > Andy > The Parts list shows this part as > 1224808 - no Ford part # - dipstick - with a note C4JZ-6750-A > 6100489 - C2OZ-6754-A Dipstick tube > > It is very possible Rootes modified the Ford dipstick to fit under the > Tiger > bonnet. > > The LAT 2 picture looks like a repop of the Shelby American dress up kit. > My guess is that those are not the exact look of the parts for the Tiger > Kit. > > Anyone have a picture of the real Tiger dress up Kit parts? > > Ron Fraser > ) > > > Hey, guys: > > Got a question about dipsticks for 260 Tigers. Since my 260 came from a > '64 > Fairlane, the dipstick has a longish handle that sticks upward, sort of > like > an extension of the dipstick itself. I figure that handle configuration > will foul the hood when it is in the down position. I've looked at old > roadtest pics of Tigers back in the day and have seen two configurations > of > dipsticks, both on what must be early Mk1s; one has the short loop handle > on > it and the other has the same handle that mine has only it is bent > downward > to lay flat across the front of the generator. Does anyone know if there > was any ryhme or reason to which dipstick is correct for the Tiger? Did > Ford maybe use whatever they had in stock at the time, thereby making > either > one acceptable from an originality standpoint? > > BTW...if it helps, my engine batch # is B19KC. One other thing, just in > case it matters...I am planning on running the LAT-2 Engine Dress-Up kit, > which means that the dipstick handle would need to be of the chromed > variety. > > Thanks for any suggestions, > Andy Walker > Edmond, OK [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/bmp which had a name of Tigetr Dip Sticks.bmp] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/bmp which had a name of Tiger Dip Sticks 2.bmp] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/bmp which had a name of Mustang Dip Sticks.bmp] _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3B6258068D for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 10:16:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-35.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783E22580432 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 10:16:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta001.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s6EGGDrn026348; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 09:16:19 -0700 Received: by dm0224.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a206) id dm0224.53bcbc9c.63464; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 09:16:12 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.145.111]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:16:04 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Dave Munroe'" , , Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 12:16:01 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+ffD3hzrFuQAAFT+GCsrqzm5lEZwAAl4aw engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.14,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-07-14_02:2014-07-14,2014-07-14,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1407140188 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dipstick (the item, not the derogatory term) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Thank you Dave Those pictures were sent by David Franchi. He has done a good deal of research into original Tiger parts; the dipstick was one of them. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Dave Munroe [mailto:dave@munroe.ca] Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 11:57 AM To: rfraser@bluefrog.com; awtiger@cox.net; tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dipstick (the item, not the derogatory term) Hi guys; These photos may confuse more than help, but they were sent to this List a few years back by a fellow Lister whose name I have since forgotten, shame on me. But on the chance they may help, fill your boots! Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: " Ron Fraser" To: ; Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dipstick (the item, not the derogatory term) > Andy > The Parts list shows this part as > 1224808 - no Ford part # - dipstick - with a note C4JZ-6750-A 6100489 > - C2OZ-6754-A Dipstick tube > > It is very possible Rootes modified the Ford dipstick to fit under the > Tiger > bonnet. > > The LAT 2 picture looks like a repop of the Shelby American dress up > kit. My guess is that those are not the exact look of the parts for > the Tiger Kit. > > Anyone have a picture of the real Tiger dress up Kit parts? > > Ron Fraser > ) > > > Hey, guys: > > Got a question about dipsticks for 260 Tigers. Since my 260 came from > a > '64 > Fairlane, the dipstick has a longish handle that sticks upward, sort of > like > an extension of the dipstick itself. I figure that handle configuration > will foul the hood when it is in the down position. I've looked at old > roadtest pics of Tigers back in the day and have seen two configurations > of > dipsticks, both on what must be early Mk1s; one has the short loop handle > on > it and the other has the same handle that mine has only it is bent > downward > to lay flat across the front of the generator. Does anyone know if there > was any ryhme or reason to which dipstick is correct for the Tiger? Did > Ford maybe use whatever they had in stock at the time, thereby making > either > one acceptable from an originality standpoint? > > BTW...if it helps, my engine batch # is B19KC. One other thing, just > in case it matters...I am planning on running the LAT-2 Engine > Dress-Up kit, which means that the dipstick handle would need to be of > the chromed variety. > > Thanks for any suggestions, > Andy Walker > Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907C3258069E for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 11:00:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BAE22580604 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 10:59:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.98]) by qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SGeB1o00327AodY5FGzpMa; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:59:49 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.11] ([24.127.150.190]) by omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SGzo1o00946jPsw3fGzpXu; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:59:49 +0000 Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 12:59:47 -0400 From: ironbeast To: tigers@autox.team.net s=q20140121; t=1405357189; bh=dYk5PdVUrSSFIsMdsuf47skggmSLcfgYJtaBLkCAAGM=; h=Received:Received:Date:Subject:Message-ID:From:To:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=h6nKN3bWCbOcNd6TPM57+KQkJUvi+eOOJE0qNiP3v5hk5DYeoMofjEYth+ZvXAnGn eamc9mlRq30aSBF/6FZo+d6e9goEowJjYNkUFV8w0snP+Jbh3/Vctfr+Mp4XFMFacz rA+nnV6FIAcDqsUWjXTuuUEBAG6XZtg9JS1YFD3ag4190IdhEkExySlHEDIJ6y65Jx QOnCJPvtiI5zmolPx5sFr3T6qnIV6TTYiIYLCT9xRiZjXjoj43JW58mEjQ4rdpcGur YZGti4Sn3Rt1HO8QLKAmwHaJJrZDRacMXzUwdudf0cS0vivhitlQCEyQN/icftsm+E 646ICaxGmmVgg== Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dipstick (the item, not the derogatory term) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Andy. I recently bought a repro of the standard mustang dispstick.B It appears that the tiger part is identical except the the pull ring is right at the top cap and is slightly smaller diameter. (Mk1A) B The standard part extendsB 2-3B inches above the cap. The original does have a "fomoco" oval on it. So maybe it is a modified version of the standard part. Not sure if the temper of the metal will allow bending modifications.B Paul. B Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone
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From: awtiger@cox.net
Date:07/14/2014 10:53 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Dipstick (the item, not the derogatory term)
Hey, guys: Got a question about dipsticks for 260 Tigers. Since my 260 came from a '64 Fairlane, the dipstick has a longish handle that sticks upward, sort of like an extension of the dipstick itself. I figure that handle configuration will foul the hood when it is in the down position. I've looked at old roadtest pics of Tigers back in the day and have seen two configurations of dipsticks, both on what must be early Mk1s; one has the short loop handle on it and the other has the same handle that mine has only it is bent downward to lay flat across the front of the generator. Does anyone know if there was any ryhme or reason to which dipstick is correct for the Tiger? Did Ford maybe use whatever they had in stock at the time, thereby making either one acceptable from an originality standpoint? BTW...if it helps, my engine batch # is B19KC. One other thing, just in case it matters...I am planning on running the LAT-2 Engine Dress-Up kit, which means that the dipstick handle would need to be of the chromed variety. Thanks for any suggestions, Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ironbeast@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3045D25848D2 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 18:15:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from BAY004-OMC2S14.hotmail.com (bay004-omc2s14.hotmail.com [65.54.190.89]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408302580803 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 18:13:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY177-W10 ([65.54.190.125]) by BAY004-OMC2S14.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Mon, 14 Jul 2014 17:14:16 -0700 From: David or Gary Franchi To: ironbeast , Tiger E-mail Q&A Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 17:14:16 -0700 References: <6dchhrc3g2pbinc455p3pgxf.1405357187122@email.android.com> FILETIME=[B711DF20:01CF9FC1] Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dipstick (the item, not the derogatory term) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO The long handle dip stick is a standard Ford part (originally from a 1962 Fairlane, it was used on early small block Fords until around early 1965) with the handle bent to clear the hood. The later Mustang dip stick has a round handle, not flat, and is not correct. The short handle Tiger dip stick is the same as the long handle, except Rootes cut off the handle and had it made shorter, this is easy to do with a jig (I have done it without any problem) David ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 12:59:47 -0400 > From: ironbeast@comcast.net > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dipstick (the item, not the derogatory term) > > Andy. I recently bought a repro of the standard mustang dispstick.B > It appears that the tiger part is identical except the the pull ring is right at the top cap and is slightly smaller diameter. (Mk1A) B The standard part extendsB 2-3B inches above the cap. > > The original does have a "fomoco" oval on it. So maybe it is a modified version of the standard part. > > Not sure if the temper of the metal will allow bending modifications.B > > Paul. B > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Smartphone > >
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From: awtiger@cox.net
Date:07/14/2014 10:53 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Dipstick (the item, not the derogatory term)
>
Hey, guys: > > Got a question about dipsticks for 260 Tigers. Since my 260 came from a '64 Fairlane, the dipstick has a longish handle that sticks upward, sort of like an extension of the dipstick itself. I figure that handle configuration will foul the hood when it is in the down position. I've looked at old roadtest pics of Tigers back in the day and have seen two configurations of dipsticks, both on what must be early Mk1s; one has the short loop handle on it and the other has the same handle that mine has only it is bent downward to lay flat across the front of the generator. Does anyone know if there was any ryhme or reason to which dipstick is correct for the Tiger? Did Ford maybe use whatever they had in stock at the time, thereby making either one acceptable from an originality standpoint? > > BTW...if it helps, my engine batch # is B19KC. One other thing, just in case it matters...I am planning on running the LAT-2 Engine Dress-Up kit, which means that the dipstick handle would need to be of the chromed variety. > > Thanks for any suggestions, > Andy Walker > Edmond, OK > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ironbeast@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/wwwdg@webtv.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F6725848CB for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 18:30:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5E72580803 for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 18:24:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SNii1o0081Y3wxoA7QQwGE; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 00:24:56 +0000 Received: from resmail-po-311v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.177.66]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id SQQv1o00U1SLFBW8bQQw1B; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 00:24:56 +0000 Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 00:24:55 +0000 (UTC) From: Gary Winblad To: Tiger E-mail Q&A References: <6dchhrc3g2pbinc455p3pgxf.1405357187122@email.android.com> Thread-Topic: Dipstick (the item, not the derogatory term) Thread-Index: Ak56/PaA1FK8GndQN6Kt/szNPDiGlg== s=q20140121; t=1405383896; bh=nhXcrq/sSfK7J31pqbHDL4WR4QbJ/JMfdACIeQLDHnA=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=qOPXfjcDLBb+dIJ57e/xedlQO9G3sLCQuW6odxyDtmzAwkgSYneXCjulmPJK3VBVw Mw488dAn5H1YdkzOXRfJRir9MxQ6xg6qBryuqL9p5nXRKg0RY2BqPY4eom7sk356Dq Jyb5Ob3OCLNR2CncHqdulxD2Sf75P8/Cx8lvPpthabBxqsfiJUwmnvtO4tDJN1jaxJ EC7LwHEvbApyJlxnekLUL/vZQ7Ph5NCSTQIcbYYbyNl0o9fYFdbDGPJTFLt0CisPMl lT/Dsb6JJ0NAbeffB2WdILVv9vEPy0TdjB1V/Mc/cMXxMdc45/i/EB+U+242+rRLNV OuWw0ZhLlF6rw== Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dipstick (the item, not the derogatory term) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Does anyone have a source for just the sealing "cap"? I have two original Tiger sticks but both came to me without the cap. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: David or Gary Franchi To: ironbeast , Tiger E-mail Q&A Sent: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 00:14:16 -0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dipstick (the item, not the derogatory term) The long handle dip stick is a standard Ford part (originally from a 1962 Fairlane, it was used on early small block Fords until around early 1965) with the handle bent to clear the hood. The later Mustang dip stick has a round handle, not flat, and is not correct. The short handle Tiger dip stick is the same as the long handle, except Rootes cut off the handle and had it made shorter, this is easy to do with a jig (I have done it without any problem) David _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10A2258077A for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 19:53:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from BAY004-OMC1S7.hotmail.com (bay004-omc1s7.hotmail.com [65.54.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C214A258075D for ; Mon, 14 Jul 2014 19:52:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY177-W12 ([65.54.190.61]) by BAY004-OMC1S7.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Mon, 14 Jul 2014 18:52:23 -0700 From: David or Gary Franchi To: Gary Winblad , Tiger E-mail Q&A Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 18:52:23 -0700 References: <6dchhrc3g2pbinc455p3pgxf.1405357187122@email.android.com>, , <2025146128.24803795.1405383895865.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> FILETIME=[6C1D2610:01CF9FCF] Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dipstick (the item, not the derogatory term) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO You would have to buy one of the repro dip sticks, and remove the "cap/bell", which isn't easy.I have removed a couple of the dust caps from one dip stick and added them to a Tiger dip stick. They Do Not come off easy and don't go back on easy. They are held on by those two crimp tabs very well and I don't believe they would come off in use, (don't know why so many Tiger dip sticks, mainly the short finger pull model are missing the dust cap unless they were removed when Rootes shortened the finger pull and weren't put back on or were made originally without them I think this was discussed on the List before) it would take a lot of wear to come off if they were made originally by the factory with the short finger pull.. No one sells/makes just the dust cap, I believe Scott Drake makes the repro. dip stick. David -------------------------------------------------------------- > Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 00:24:55 +0000 > From: garywinblad@comcast.net > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dipstick (the item, not the derogatory term) > > Does anyone have a source for just the sealing "cap"? > I have two original Tiger sticks but both came to me without > the cap. > > Gary > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David or Gary Franchi > To: ironbeast , Tiger E-mail Q&A > Sent: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 00:14:16 -0000 (UTC) > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dipstick (the item, not the derogatory term) > > The long handle > dip stick is a standard Ford part (originally from a 1962 > Fairlane, it > was used on early small block Fords until around early 1965) > with the > handle bent to clear the hood. The later Mustang dip stick has a > round handle, not flat, and is not correct. > The short handle Tiger dip stick is the same as the long handle, except Rootes > cut off the handle and had it made shorter, this is easy to do with a jig (I > have done it without any problem) > David > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/wwwdg@webtv.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF352580889 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 12:32:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m03.mx.aol.com (omr-m03.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E4825800CF for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 12:32:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aai02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aai02.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.100]) by omr-m03.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0D92E70000086 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 14:32:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dqb003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dqb003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.212.201]) by mtaomg-aai02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id E783938000086 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 14:32:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Rollright@aol.com Full-name: Rollright Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 14:32:18 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1405449140; bh=LkCcQyzj82jYqMSMR8T9oK8PlkqXR8j99h9fiumG4as=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BbDQ8EnitMhIyzjpk38C16zDtT2anCjA1tZf39ybBqvW9D/sbkAOLz+QTbJdU6acS mWx6ikPz3lfdkCpJNW4/xln2vZIvr1BUsGSemmkzkRkV3iM3ShDAkDYPVc1Vr9bzow rQFy581PZWn4/0ez4WcSzFDkaTIsN5gcp2E+iMbY= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b026453c573b247fa Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, re- dip stick bell Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Hello, Interesting point; on the inside of the original dip stick bell, Ford put a small washer (?) of felt. Very nice touch. Wonder how many are left..... Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE TAC 0763 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:43 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460B725808C6 for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 13:12:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from pm-bdc2.pmlights.com (pm-bdc2.pmlights.com [65.69.172.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7DB525800CF for ; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 13:12:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from WEBMAIL.pmlights.com (adsl-65-69-172-96.ded.swbell.net [65.69.172.96]) by pm-bdc2.pmlights.com with ESMTP id IA866aTvdjwNuJZL; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 14:12:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: from WEBMAIL.pmlights.com ([65.69.172.96]) by WEBMAIL.pmlights.com ([65.69.172.96]) with mapi id 14.01.0218.012; Tue, 15 Jul 2014 14:07:18 -0500 From: "Armacost, Don Jr." To: "Rollright@aol.com" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, re- dip stick bell Thread-Index: AQHPoFqBUANqy1rleEGQ9tUebvjIIpuhfk6g Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 19:07:17 +0000 References: <3a3f2.6ab8cb07.40f6cdba@aol.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [65.69.173.201] Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, re- dip stick bell Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO We have one on our original Tiger. At least we think it is original because all else on the car was untouched when we purchased it with 28K original miles. It is off white. Don Armacost, Jr B9473374 LRXFE TAC 0891 -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 1:32 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, re- dip stick bell Hello, Interesting point; on the inside of the original dip stick bell, Ford put a small washer (?) of felt. Very nice touch. Wonder how many are left..... Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE TAC 0763 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/drarmacost@pmlights.com When forwarding, use "BCC" and press "Send" only AFTER you have deleted all extraneous email addresses from this email. It's the smart way to share. 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Guess I'll run out and check mine. In a message dated 7/15/2014 3:12:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, drarmacost@pmlights.com writes: We have one on our original Tiger. At least we think it is original because all else on the car was untouched when we purchased it with 28K original miles. It is off white. Don Armacost, Jr B9473374 LRXFE TAC 0891 -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 1:32 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, re- dip stick bell Hello, Interesting point; on the inside of the original dip stick bell, Ford put a small washer (?) of felt. Very nice touch. Wonder how many are left..... Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE TAC 0763 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/drarmacost@pmlights.com When forwarding, use "BCC" and press "Send" only AFTER you have deleted all extraneous email addresses from this email. It's the smart way to share. If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address! It's a courtesy to me and others who may not wish their email addresses sent all over the world, and helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the Recipient. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute, copy or alter this email. 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Personally I would rather be looking up skirts than dip sticks. From: CoolVT@aol.com [mailto:CoolVT@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 4:12 PM To: Armacost, Don Jr.; Rollright@aol.com; tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, re- dip stick bell Man, who looks up inside of their dipstick bell for a felt washer???? Guess I'll run out and check mine. In a message dated 7/15/2014 3:12:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, We have one on our original Tiger. At least we think it is original because all else on the car was untouched when we purchased it with 28K original miles. It is off white. Don Armacost, Jr B9473374 LRXFE TAC 0891 -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 1:32 PM Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, re- dip stick bell Hello, Interesting point; on the inside of the original dip stick bell, Ford put a small washer (?) of felt. Very nice touch. Wonder how many are left..... Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE TAC 0763 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/drarmacost@pmlights.com When forwarding, use "BCC" and press "Send" only AFTER you have deleted all extraneous email addresses from this email. It's the smart way to share. If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address! It's a courtesy to me and others who may not wish their email addresses sent all over the world, and helps prevent Spammers from mining addresses and viruses from being propagated. This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the Recipient. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute, copy or alter this email. 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Very interesting ! Jim Armstrong In a message dated 7/15/2014 5:48:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, JCMC2006@suddenlink.net writes: The PVC valve creates a slight vacuum in the crankcase, and the felt in the dip stick prevents dirt from going down the tube. Without the felt, dirt could get into the tube, which wouldn't be a good thing. Jerry Christopherson 9473187 -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of CoolVT@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 4:12 PM To: drarmacost@pmlights.com; Rollright@aol.com; tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, re- dip stick bell Man, who looks up inside of their dipstick bell for a felt washer???? Guess I'll run out and check mine. In a message dated 7/15/2014 3:12:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, drarmacost@pmlights.com writes: We have one on our original Tiger. At least we think it is original because all else on the car was untouched when we purchased it with 28K original miles. It is off white. Don Armacost, Jr B9473374 LRXFE TAC 0891 -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rollright@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2014 1:32 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, re- dip stick bell Hello, Interesting point; on the inside of the original dip stick bell, Ford put a small washer (?) of felt. Very nice touch. Wonder how many are left..... Jim Armstrong Mk 1A 382002083 LRXFE TAC 0763 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/drarmacost@pmlights.com When forwarding, use "BCC" and press "Send" only AFTER you have deleted all extraneous email addresses from this email. It's the smart way to share. If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which includes my email address! 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Gary 1265 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:44 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69921258450D for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 09:05:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206AE2584507 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 09:05:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id TREl1o0050xGWP855T5xuC; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 15:05:57 +0000 Received: from OwnerTHINK ([66.30.32.254]) by omta12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id TT5w1o00h5UyWVN3YT5xlS; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 15:05:57 +0000 From: "Gary Fish" To: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 11:05:55 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+h0Jt/B50uez5JR/Cw12IebXorKQ== Content-Language: en-us s=q20140121; t=1405609557; bh=P7XrgaeqSvE1yoE8ZPM3gr13AU7JGM+0TcDxiaiU49g=; h=Received:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=dmtXM7cd2zepFx8fQzsZGRSUA1n9fjDNLNzosHlNkJVHZK0tOI/yipp1voFapUYfU KjVKqmej6IkFNgMNaDA8ZOkyYMRrGPbhpsOcgfQsspUwUGlFjOM3s3v5WbD+R8p64D HRaBX6zdeRUkcyo0v9GRPHHxNnqgw9KNfBftAaS1zJF42i5wE5I8W89jABdT4szkhT QF2zrjZUZxpXvQttYD60PiRNkJjYrvsHre4c6FRLFUdixLP9DZJacNuti8S2EQpeud 6aycWr71nviTTuPgb6QbFZd8F9pJVN/yz5I3CsyJPPUlpun2yYbS0eT9bwt5FNre0h D0OnyqDeXMBbQ== Subject: [Tigers] Hemmings article Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO The article is in the September issue of Hemmings Sports & Exotic Car magazine. Gary 1265 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:45 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CFEF2584553 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 20:16:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from edge2.usi.edu (edge2.usi.edu [208.96.146.2]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D91E25844AF for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 20:16:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ex2.usi.edu (10.12.10.225) by edge2.usi.edu (192.168.51.215) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.195.1; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 21:16:16 -0500 Received: from EX1.usi.edu ([10.12.10.125]) by ex2.usi.edu ([10.12.10.225]) with mapi id 14.03.0181.006; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 21:16:34 -0500 From: "Schonberger, Barry" To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Patton Sets Track Records Thread-Index: Ac+iLaqM/Z+nTMCKQ1yJoVIDpOPOrQ== Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 02:16:33 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.12.10.14] Subject: [Tigers] Patton Sets Track Records Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Tom Patton driving the #50 GT2 Sunbeam Tiger set track records at Watkins Glenn (Long Course) and Gingerman during SCCA Majors competition. http://www.racer.com/scca-home/item/105439-scca-northern-conference-racers-do dge-rain-drops-at-gingerman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:45 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5BC0258046A for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:41:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (fed1rmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C113258450E for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:40:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo209 ([68.230.241.160]) by fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140718044108.VEVN28942.fed1rmfepo203.cox.net@fed1rmimpo209> for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 00:41:08 -0400 Received: from laptop ([68.229.224.237]) by fed1rmimpo209 with cox id Tgh71o00957wa9801gh888; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 00:41:08 -0400 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=rHGst218KywA6OFC_-cA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=R7iea8pqsLIA:10 a=_JAXdI25MR0A:10 a=jTK8v9DOdnUA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=NO8kLMeuYKe05xxbHY0A:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=awtiger@cox.net From: "Andy Walker" To: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 23:41:07 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac+iQfXDpXLuesR3TlCS1Rl91T28Tg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] LAT-2 engine dress-up kit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Hey, guys: Does anybody out there have a real, honest-to-goodness, original LAT-2 engine dress-up kit on their Tiger? If so, please contact me at your earliest convenience. I'd like to visit with you about the particulars of a piece of the kit. Thanks much, Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:45 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7FB02584577 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 23:11:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp-out-01.shaw.ca (smtp-out-01.shaw.ca [64.59.136.137]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 327A5258451C for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 23:10:55 -0600 (MDT) cv=OwXf4AQYS7J10u4+/2kpCX1VHJ+qeA/E1g375LKBsDQ= c=1 sm=1 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=88NxmroaIPmpBvoTM6QRPw==:17 a=Clk590jDQSDwcY9NrjEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=AprR9EUbflMA:10 a=L2Lw3WBEN-gA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.100]) ([174.1.199.204]) by smtp-out-01.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 17 Jul 2014 23:11:13 -0600 From: Peter and Bonnie MacDonald Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:11:14 -0700 To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Article Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO August issue of Classic and Sportscar(UK) also has a Tiger article. No mention of the man with the sledgehammers, but somehow "Chevy" is in there??? Bought it in Windermere, England on our way to Tiger50! _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 06:42:45 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C5C2584701 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 14:50:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm45.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm45.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.120.52]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B3652580B12 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 14:49:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm45.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2014 20:49:45 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm45.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2014 20:46:58 -0000 Received: from [98.139.215.141] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2014 20:46:58 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.198] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2014 20:46:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2014 20:46:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 3737 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jul 2014 20:46:58 -0000 s=s1024; t=1405716418; bh=tDyOq9IDInNdau/wNWcmXsB/EhTxUjvYdsc02ofACg4=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Oi8mBjCB0JqjIW9KH9tYAT1uvcWKh3hNABk/WZcOCrTKG2Qxuk+dYTNKNbBdhemy0fhlUKz7Qh770TGY4tP9E7bqeDHYJ7ecSzF26T4EyWRzy6sHmMbgl3JXBw4fvaET6i4VhVxqD70dix0kAQaYSYPMDylJKkVKEScb0E7Zr1M= Nphjh40_jfqOF8TqdiUiqgQDR5BACRl73SbX2THb3nuYytVtjtADWJcspZqJ e4hpaeKknPMdWqgeNuJTltcSAG0FuUpV90Za8PODVTlbYLbH4KsaonVf2PQN 7NfU_muJhW6LTMPEKUg9f9m22teSns0mLkIpLqFbTdUwttLKKqysKlyOT3AW MuTfd2zdBEt6dlOIDXaQIrIXi6gvRAQSXYJrXxQH4BQZrN8bC0STnnET4FfC WlnQ5TDZcFuQou0_gtccXrobd.eA5lgXTFw3XxvYNerCe54TiuMjcPt5JGYD qwWcAqZ1agWFRWSrmrmDB_l.tfyvp59DhtL7dPcMs0GFYMzPpHbyHy16rT3Y f503yhw0d4OvDcuNk9bquYu8f7HoeCTJjEnVCue6QzvaQSI.5NYu_OprtUoL rw3VuiVRlE_5v.QTitLA7bo4b30dGGAUe5Hfcw4tkXDyY6IbkFs0NtX3_7HS p Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 18 Jul 2014 13:46:58 PDT U29tZW9uZSBpbiB0aGUgbGFzdCBtb250aCBhcyBhc2tpbmcgYWJvdXQgYnV5aW5nIHJlYXIgd2luZyBSb290ZXMgYmFkZ2VzLiBBIHBlcnNvbiBvbiBlQmF5IFVTIGhhcyB0d28gZm9yIGF1Y3Rpb24sIHNlbGxlciBuYW1lwqDCoCAnY29sb3JhZG9ncmFzc2xhbmRzICcgbm93IG9uIHRoZSBzaXRlLgoKUmFuZGUBMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 13:46:58 -0700 From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tiger 1 rear wing badges Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Status: RO Someone in the last month as asking about buying rear wing Rootes badges. A person on eBay US has two for auction, seller name 'coloradograsslands ' now on the site. Rande _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net