From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 14:08:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A0B258443B for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 14:08:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDBB525803BC for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 14:08:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZY4Q1o0070Fqzac55Y9DRN; Fri, 01 Aug 2014 20:09:13 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-263v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.49.42]) by omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZY9C1o00w0udGuy3UY9CkH; Fri, 01 Aug 2014 20:09:13 +0000 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 20:09:12 +0000 (UTC) From: tym2@comcast.net To: tigers@autox.team.net Thread-Topic: brake upgrade Thread-Index: tTKNGRyLxv6dZD57l+r6GaKQ1LR8Hg== s=q20140121; t=1406923753; bh=S05i0I1nEN1Ga4WyFD2OWbeQ/vUz1Psr3a1tGWzHNRI=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=bfW8SQEu9YvTSVYK752WE6cBWU8EQ6M713TFbd7jjrnqmUysnogqy/dZysosVAnRv rTkScZ87En/03t66kbchp/912RGyIhCUoLZtBuakWS1UUNpE5M588OJio8dUM4cibs 9F+dEwZXOIKedYh/ZsRpSEkgRAt1hI24uYKzdqkWDUx5iGW+7hJvMLIQsYizqXzQtD tgK6msWGvYqf85GvFiQBuefXLWXc654J4yfEM+tDoyv4mHf9JPZtTtXjPM2IVDfIf7 KucugwyV0Qrn+c1O+kbYI0gRKkY7nRoK/YfddkU/i7m4b+ngiiFrwUzMpyQdVYFQoN Ky1l6+IkhUiIg== Subject: [Tigers] brake upgrade Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tigers, I'm repainting my Mk1A. While it's apart I'm planning a brake upgrade. I understand that Dale's restoration has a brake kit. I've also looked at the Wilwood kit option. Does anyone have any experience with what they think is the best option. My car has never had a brake booster. Thanks in advance. Tym McDowell _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 16:28:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B5BC2584451 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 16:28:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f174.google.com (mail-vc0-f174.google.com [209.85.220.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99D34258071E for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 16:28:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f174.google.com with SMTP id la4so7826418vcb.19 for ; Fri, 01 Aug 2014 15:29:07 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Yoti9IBa5NjbKqOsAi5ykcXT140vi6yoVahb9VEswqE=; b=sTz+T81WVST/atKEVybqjDiSDRlB9IvJDFwTX/cWd3WW4QcXAtY5fH4CTy5cOiaV4Q VbkzKN7ryMBVXdGz/0RYr1r5f7KnduOMqVR2l7i4UT9Bz2yYDGUCpstMQUX/ZE7ow3xd NjaRe75zAMpV3iDnlEPjEM/r+CC3jTrU3lzNJ7JYeARD8TloJ3CuzypSM8fUUR785QFx 50CitO+Ko7Pc26DhbXK7ZcGt8XhYClpL8xAUjS1/VvzxbT8v+gLS/yqoaSNYfI0lD03T H53OUdzKg78sJjiwDOwPU2TTzf038szwlVsST6sTXk1907sYZ7y++qS/wkXspUIob9DW NP0w== fh8mr8628351vdb.34.1406932147288; Fri, 01 Aug 2014 15:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.238.74 with HTTP; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 15:29:07 -0700 (PDT) References: <493184299.33782949.1406923752777.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 18:29:07 -0400 From: Owain Lloyd To: "tym2@comcast.net" Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] brake upgrade Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Front or rear? Do you get brake fade? Fluid boiling? If not you may just need good pads. What's the reason for the upgrade? It will help determine options. On Friday, August 1, 2014, wrote: > Tigers, > > I'm repainting my Mk1A. While it's apart I'm planning a brake upgrade. I > understand that Dale's restoration has a brake kit. I've also looked at > the Wilwood kit option. Does anyone have any experience with what they > think is the best option. My car has never had a brake booster. > > Thanks in advance. > > Tym McDowell > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 16:56:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 372262584481 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 16:56:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m10.mx.aol.com (omr-m10.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C874425802BC for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 16:56:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aah01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aah01.mx.aol.com [172.27.1.143]) by omr-m10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9768D702E60BB; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 18:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mlc004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mlc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.210]) by mtaomg-aah01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CC35E38000082; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 18:56:38 -0400 (EDT) References: To: owain.lloyd@gmail.com, tym2@comcast.net Received: from 12.130.117.193 by webmail-vm031.sysops.aol.com (149.174.156.146) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 01 Aug 2014 18:56:38 -0400 From: mwood24020@aol.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 18:56:38 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1406933799; bh=8g5e4Xv9Er3xn2hqSqRWEldhhs6KlLIvzboCbYjhOKA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Kw5RDKUcuLrL5Nahm6KDHatE4JOFE1bXcBlpUp9XM1otD4Oyi9QcTzVWhvNs17SnM dizrnxhkvx2qteB9r09JBT1OPR+zTQr8S+9QjrOhsn1v9WDAB/h1tyiRjKl1scqfR1 QmP3asGq6kxHixbtQxYnZQTrRvRoW0d7276gDu/Q= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b018f53dc1b26561a Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] brake upgrade Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I'd say those are all very good questions to ask. Personally, I don't see the value in going to rear discs, unless the car has suspension modification that affects better anti dive characteristics or the car is being used on road course with heat being an issue. I like the idea of vented rotors and better calipers on the front, but for many, as Owain points out, just going to better pads might be enough. I just swapped out the OEM type Repco pads that I had installed to get my car back on the road (hey, they were on the shelf and new) for a set of Hawk HPS pads. I went with the HPS because I'm not going to put enough heat in the brakes to need much ceiling and they have very good cold bite. Noticeable difference in performance and feel compared to the Repco's, to say the least. I also flushed the system with Motul brake fluid, with which I've always had good luck. On Wilwood, their calipers aren't really all that wonderful. They aren't particularly rigid, exhibiting too much flex, which leads to a poor pedal, pad taper/uneven wear and other issues. Won't notice any of this on the street, but if you're going to pay up for aftermarket calipers, might as well get some that perform in a track environment. -----Original Message----- From: Owain Lloyd To: tym2 Cc: tigers Sent: Fri, Aug 1, 2014 3:29 pm Subject: Re: [Tigers] brake upgrade Front or rear? Do you get brake fade? Fluid boiling? If not you may just need good pads. What's the reason for the upgrade? It will help determine options. On Friday, August 1, 2014, wrote: > Tigers, > > I'm repainting my Mk1A. While it's apart I'm planning a brake upgrade. I > understand that Dale's restoration has a brake kit. I've also looked at > the Wilwood kit option. Does anyone have any experience with what they > think is the best option. My car has never had a brake booster. > > Thanks in advance. > > Tym McDowell > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mwood24020@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 20:20:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F30CB258452F for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 20:20:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E7D2584494 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 20:20:27 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1406946055; bh=sissQk87u4L8Te6v3YEpnx8fOjw/ij3Oe1vCBMQCUFI=; b=grJ145DoQqHpTuhC/OsDJAG5vmhTWJr6q2pbCHKi7mJxNrUR3yZYNpMtGML4FH3vn0GGTCiHyftVvTzdpMY3hShYGcKnkC0Ju+Igr59FQKNSvR6OpFBxceF/92MO7DBc0+s0+uHrQzo4d6trluWWf01vjew5dSaP74aDI2UM+R5CGdEvH4p+xDsa57MfWpoIZORA9yXpbO8L9YW4yZERubg7mdQ9zbpDWP7BhPAKc3zlzkKw7Kf+zeOFDGoCDPNhypkYq0ZWJTmay+pfCBC+iehMvOdHJeNvSiyYy4j0GzawUmAa9K5L5sH8nB7JCIzwJfvId/9QUJ6kHaW/hOAnxQ== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=pacbell.net; b=KiGWOnt7EUwRxV83U+KwKtB+FEvyqyfaWoXUiXpz/nVdNCJFbUeKr/AJYYvYh9ibJAagGAysiOjp6f7zO9kNgJ2LDei1LgfSvPAXhWkMrMlhMx/9rJlKI94kV1LrJ7PHxu1tFOF9SqdZK/3tzjdcCxd9HZNq7XRZc8xw56TL7M08Ixt7zfmu/cTl/hETwjPbLzAUuaKYQAlpEaBTWLbi8TftSiNRMHu4//lr8iTHy4OAqWtWDPPl6McRhQWCOgWcdq3iD+F1ir0wG/ZzzcGq8TTTK7f1NfmUVJZDO3K6O1rf0UV7xU6HXcVjNeCha1YPjmyD4+1GxNvNU4wJ9sdCEQ==; Received: from [98.137.12.62] by nm22.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2014 02:20:55 -0000 Received: from [208.71.42.203] by tm7.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2014 02:20:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp214.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2014 02:20:55 -0000 s=s1024; t=1406946055; bh=sissQk87u4L8Te6v3YEpnx8fOjw/ij3Oe1vCBMQCUFI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=4tkVsuBEWLxjIW4D4nMIlQYeg9H6aFtwvS40DrCBXuxV3MCwqGr6VCs2ExGGlq+8bys76+jWpCnSl9Yp40LkGPhPmNev6ddVukyb1lbVz9UHcff0P9y6UrJC9uEQB9T4oxYMfMIuwJvk3AwJlkUZ+Of6Qaj/pRbn5lOTBzXn884= H_UikIG_TOhitGBbW5iQXkl8._w50_7vrP1Z3wRkj79ptc6LH28YB7RxLSbl zcCQZ8axxkIwqtqQ7Jjqn5ma4GbxtkcRz6ug92J3n.V25S.UhaK_yZpMeKIo bFJRmziOvSGuCT3FAbFMTlRaaymay7z8mMACzzXWWZG0eXnfW.umC.U96qzG B7yaFTxPZBj4RC74ePHRTpVTLwC2_7Mkd6C4xYd4eaWMO2kJJBCvlZTLFKwo D9.6VfDx4X5BNWHURkV3efm3J.OQu0APlEV6OW28Wa6I0s_SUgWGDZzWH0I. 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Sandy _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 1 20:52:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F212584511 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 20:52:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173025pub.verizon.net (vms173025pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5745A258089F for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2014 20:51:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BuckLaptop ([unknown] [173.58.234.133]) by vms173025.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N9N005R2RZAJH40@vms173025.mailsrvcs.net> for Tigers@autox.team.net; Fri, 01 Aug 2014 21:52:23 -0500 (CDT) From: "Buck Trippel" To: "TIGER list" References: <53DC4AF5.7070409@pacbell.net> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2014 19:52:15 -0700 Thread-index: AQKvAWnLxodPaj8yZKVl6LqtyvIZ1pn99CRAgAACZVA= Content-language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] FW: Drive Shaft Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The Tiger Drive Shaft IS off center towards the passenger side at the differential. Tom Hall told me this was done so Rootes could use the same length axle on both the right and left sides of the rear end. As an unintended consequence, this gave Dan Walters more room to fit in his torque arm along the driver's side of the drive shaft. Bt -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Sandy Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 7:21 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Drive Shaft Question for some driveline folks - I had been looking at pics of some tiger suspension from under the car (pics on the web) and noticed that the drive shaft looks like it's not centered. What I'm looking at is the tail shaft of the transmission centered in the car but the offset to the rear pinion yolk looks like it's not a straight shot back. Could the pic I saw just make it look that way? Sandy _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/bucktrippel@verizon.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 2 01:09:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53C8E258452A for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2014 01:09:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm4-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm4-vm5.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.164]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 160712580813 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2014 01:09:26 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1406963395; bh=5hjRDVi22Ion6yVLxM39mZyD9IJBG2U8RYq1sT3gYmI=; b=RHVgK2kBU0Hi8Fhs1jnlRi4Yz2N2fV6CoMkjZ2VNGoUpKmW/u3HhxAFMyRUUs4NbOoUI4aT+wWhdcaU3FJgz/Y+OrfiMcSG+eei8VFfAJQaJ2WUqqrs7vUjZy75eS2BWv7dfBAAOFBZi44xKgy/PGHrfdxKZfu3s1TGNM0Kedh+WRY7RycT+vjkQv6Q3Mhfrv/bKNbXjgXVQfk+Lhx/RCpl+KfxzofLeVuT9bI3RiFnRXeavL0XrJdEPqNMh4+IZF8Dny0dIwhnP+c0A9wk8VbuEz1g1hcS5iu+ZPWArNtIEQj4lVrvvKf3L6gooA38+mzP34IkT5zbV+GMCCqDI9w== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=pacbell.net; b=YMpafyiJPdPUwRzcpqQlUQp0nfHrflObhKn1MmT36ILSYmD0EhfeHZ3JAJ1Dwl6nor/L3CxhPK4YBINqlKaYVkdIF4Eg45qiYmnng2R+MiTTHd7lNoC0p/AB6AoCNEUfSoxfEXJiwsE2W4EEzSz/QGVHw3eCHI2GwQq069z3/XwxTSZVpiyiOxm1k6NbsdwSP2MGPF5dYo57nL6L8hH2MhHWWjnJ5NF5zLcSDdA9RpE6ZAIHPUM9p9vSpdgEPJLMK1WtSTvE/HSW6WlzvWY6Qq9QB8OVj99YsgWRBFRL+PTZ15Qw2Vf7T8EuyFcSZtWdZ+p/3VCx2lb7RWxsG1V6vQ==; Received: from [98.137.12.57] by nm4.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2014 07:09:55 -0000 Received: from [98.136.164.73] by tm2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2014 07:09:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp235.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 02 Aug 2014 07:09:55 -0000 s=s1024; t=1406963395; bh=5hjRDVi22Ion6yVLxM39mZyD9IJBG2U8RYq1sT3gYmI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=nukSTahMJDVbKdj3lPpFIghExQhV3WVHVlUeH+TBmKjTJz7T7wmvIiJktAImYVM1ymVHdhYZbPx1Y8mX8oBI4IHNyPaohaFw+OWHbdi1XJFaQHsittE7YmlUkdtEMtaNvlZ1OB2kGNahc+kC13htrhl0+S051mYCRdv9GRXPfGE= TGUJ4tIQl3d9npRiKaxRG6fIQIiAlcAIjIOvKp16_gHtk2jccCMZmgDD0dhT KF7o_fbesqXcv26j1mugpy1VEVlNosq93K8lY79pyVlqQqkrnpo_sBuZ.cZB gwiQ1lkfuPeKizySV29h_ZG1sCX5wBzid6DzLHopidHlK05m.9SgmT4avUOM DgNCYWPqOtt5E8JUR7TXQmyuGruN4UF.JEDT.GI5gLaICATt9zTBqLRD1rBb wfZbdDWe6gLTA81OrRhzvl9A33hsL0P.y.9iLj8y3GY.r9vWmOHoEFBQ0j07 889p8jFIKa1CivXp8jSWV.YGhRgFqz4SPqPfL.yPk1j2_CIWGbpGwijvupmH JlFZJKwaGNfYLZEa5bHVjGsOLYcJhfVK_JnqPR.yZUy9yXmxlzJhBp13wx2D QVIWqQgv7rUobWsLdRseBtP2VnllNlRgG_9KE5CmZLGi.YEi0qmDnoOaVwjg 7lihpHQ6ZjOTkTOBoprSVpSqKSuw0BjsdYqDnvEngd8yTTydjx1tSKGCTmTe CfnqrBZnizolKM3Dnj368IN9dKMaaaQFLK8bhUHB. Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2014 00:09:35 -0700 From: Sandy User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 To: tigers@autox.team.net References: <53DC4AF5.7070409@pacbell.net> <000101cfadfc$c4f46ab0$4edd4010$@Verizon.net> Subject: Re: [Tigers] FW: Drive Shaft Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net It figures they did it to save some $$$. I was looking at the pictures scratching my head and it just didn't look right. Any idea how much the offset is? Sandy On 8/1/2014 7:52 PM, Buck Trippel wrote: > The Tiger Drive Shaft IS off center towards the passenger side at the > differential. > > Tom Hall told me this was done so Rootes could use the same length axle on > both the right and left sides of the rear end. > > As an unintended consequence, this gave Dan Walters more room to fit in his > torque arm along the driver's side of the drive shaft. > > Bt > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Sandy > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 7:21 PM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Drive Shaft > > Question for some driveline folks - > > I had been looking at pics of some tiger suspension from under the car (pics > on the web) and noticed that the drive shaft looks like it's not centered. > What I'm looking at is the tail shaft of the transmission centered in the > car but the offset to the rear pinion yolk looks like it's not a straight > shot back. Could the pic I saw just make it look that way? > > Sandy > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/bucktrippel@verizon.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sganz@pacbell.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 2 08:10:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE602584926 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2014 08:10:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mf5.hostedmail.socket.net (unknown [216.106.26.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E3F2584561 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2014 08:10:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from RedBudAdminPC (unknown [199.187.162.108]) by mf5.hostedmail.socket.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB03442F6; Sat, 2 Aug 2014 09:10:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jim McLaughlin" To: , References: <493184299.33782949.1406923752777.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 09:10:56 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac+uW5OvwYQ+EuhvTBKElvD2DqXYeA== Subject: Re: [Tigers] brake upgrade Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tym, My Mk 1a has Wilwood front discs with stock drums in the rear. It has a dual reservoir with a Wilwood proportioning valve. It is a manual system. Still shaking it down, however the brakes work very well with a bias towards the fronts, of course. The car has 13" wheels so it is fitted with the older Dale's kit that has 10.5 inch rotors. I am happy with it so far possibly except the master, which seems weak to me; data for this is that I am on my second one. I could use a recommendation on a better M/C. They stop the car very well though; it is not a racer but a street vehicle with original 260 (just under 300 hp), toploader and positrac rear. Jim McLaughlin B382000175LRXFE -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tym2@comcast.net Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 3:09 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] brake upgrade Tigers, I'm repainting my Mk1A. While it's apart I'm planning a brake upgrade. I understand that Dale's restoration has a brake kit. I've also looked at the Wilwood kit option. Does anyone have any experience with what they think is the best option. My car has never had a brake booster. Thanks in advance. Tym McDowell _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimmc13@socket.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 2012-12-11_15-44-47_799.jpg] _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 2 10:05:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E989F258493C for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2014 10:05:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (omr-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74410258491B for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2014 10:03:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mbb02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mbb02.mx.aol.com [172.26.254.112]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id C866C702A95C1; Sat, 2 Aug 2014 12:03:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mlc004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mlc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.210]) by mtaomg-mbb02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4FDD438000081; Sat, 2 Aug 2014 12:03:45 -0400 (EDT) References: <446B27F288F345DDA4321FFAF4800EF1@RedBudAdminPC> To: jimmc13@socket.net, tym2@comcast.net, tigers@autox.team.net From: mwood24020@aol.com Received: from 75.36.165.83 by webmail-m233.sysops.aol.com (64.12.107.178) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 02 Aug 2014 12:03:44 -0400 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 12:03:45 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1406995425; bh=LVTFmpBZCnPpRlphLvKnos9RfscDMz0wQbXmvfrTdgU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=1UZWgy6JR7Cj85FhBOfjp+fQhNpwsKoaqiMXuCxrJCKep9aVnb+JdZh/ltNUWdbbr CEGnYmLmTyAXOaJe+SsnuP7Ssbj/JmhFvYW7vRQZ8cNiTbOcxBhwdKYKCHVC0EDT0A UTg9dOZ5wSTduCwOFwni7xtg3uvTUVDeOfdCIpGM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afe7053dd0be124cb Subject: Re: [Tigers] brake upgrade Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Another consideration, for those that like the solid pedal feel of a non-boosted hydraulic s -----Original Message----- From: Jim McLaughlin To: tym2 ; tigers Sent: Sat, Aug 2, 2014 7:11 am Subject: Re: [Tigers] brake upgrade Tym, My Mk 1a has Wilwood front discs with stock drums in the rear. It has a dual reservoir with a Wilwood proportioning valve. It is a manual system. Still shaking it down, however the brakes work very well with a bias towards the fronts, of course. The car has 13" wheels so it is fitted with the older Dale's kit that has 10.5 inch rotors. I am happy with it so far possibly except the master, which seems weak to me; data for this is that I am on my second one. I could use a recommendation on a better M/C. They stop the car very well though; it is not a racer but a street vehicle with original 260 (just under 300 hp), toploader and positrac rear. Jim McLaughlin B382000175LRXFE -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tym2@comcast.net Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 3:09 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] brake upgrade Tigers, I'm repainting my Mk1A. While it's apart I'm planning a brake upgrade. I understand that Dale's restoration has a brake kit. I've also looked at the Wilwood kit option. Does anyone have any experience with what they think is the best option. My car has never had a brake booster. Thanks in advance. Tym McDowell _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimmc13@socket.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 2012-12-11_15-44-47_799.jpg] _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mwood24020@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 2 10:06:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6FB12584594 for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2014 10:06:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d10.mx.aol.com (omr-d10.mx.aol.com [205.188.108.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4193258062D for ; Sat, 2 Aug 2014 10:06:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mbc01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mbc01.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.143]) by omr-d10.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 320CA70000081; Sat, 2 Aug 2014 12:06:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mlc004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mlc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.210]) by mtaomg-mbc01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B0D3838000081; Sat, 2 Aug 2014 12:06:44 -0400 (EDT) References: <446B27F288F345DDA4321FFAF4800EF1@RedBudAdminPC> To: jimmc13@socket.net, tym2@comcast.net, tigers@autox.team.net From: mwood24020@aol.com Received: from 75.36.165.83 by webmail-m233.sysops.aol.com (64.12.107.178) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 02 Aug 2014 12:06:44 -0400 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 12:06:44 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1406995605; bh=RM3JwuJGAnBBg/GCryo/iT/M8I4fcojTOyq4xarsUbI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DxHCrt6PPwUUmezYTmXAGKdhvr0eVIpvnR3m/arH5E1sxXiMB1wq+yuzNiDSDjgPx jRuJLwO2S+XX4NCfka0KwbBx3CIyS/dneJFYMbm7Up65wo9RUC+qgOX0CU06dJxyOg 3Ig+oRiZs5IPTnFCrAi4gSZBLDiQb4wLo5Um1WwE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1add8f53dd0c940944 Subject: Re: [Tigers] brake upgrade Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Another consideration, for those that like the solid pedal feel of a non-boosted hydraulic system, is Tom Hall's 6:1 pedal set up. I haven't driven a car with his part, but hear it really helps with providing the right leverage for a non-boosted system. -----Original Message----- From: Jim McLaughlin To: tym2 ; tigers Sent: Sat, Aug 2, 2014 7:11 am Subject: Re: [Tigers] brake upgrade Tym, My Mk 1a has Wilwood front discs with stock drums in the rear. It has a dual reservoir with a Wilwood proportioning valve. It is a manual system. Still shaking it down, however the brakes work very well with a bias towards the fronts, of course. The car has 13" wheels so it is fitted with the older Dale's kit that has 10.5 inch rotors. I am happy with it so far possibly except the master, which seems weak to me; data for this is that I am on my second one. I could use a recommendation on a better M/C. They stop the car very well though; it is not a racer but a street vehicle with original 260 (just under 300 hp), toploader and positrac rear. Jim McLaughlin B382000175LRXFE -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of tym2@comcast.net Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 3:09 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] brake upgrade Tigers, I'm repainting my Mk1A. While it's apart I'm planning a brake upgrade. I understand that Dale's restoration has a brake kit. I've also looked at the Wilwood kit option. Does anyone have any experience with what they think is the best option. My car has never had a brake booster. Thanks in advance. Tym McDowell _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimmc13@socket.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 2012-12-11_15-44-47_799.jpg] _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mwood24020@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 3 19:06:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EE1325845CA for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 19:06:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f182.google.com (mail-vc0-f182.google.com [209.85.220.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AAE12580691 for ; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 19:06:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id hy4so10176572vcb.27 for ; Sun, 03 Aug 2014 18:06:53 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=4HOnb1Mb6IFB8VbQb2D4pGq9mxNWi+rGNajfHYxKfGY=; b=weEUqyyyX6WC3ApkoXQSMXKCx4dgkJVa456cnXNL/AhRTK9obEQI0xW+tQVJvO15hw 8ONY2lGlrog0sMszAbH6DQwBbM0Q6Zu6/P1MJELVAEsnmKPHADBihT8wNd3XCwIffxHe 7cq9YUc1gTTdeD0jPImwhPPqCqB02juK/90q7fkIEuGSgp3PCBHTuxdlzUJI594kHj5k 1gGCthsn5x1HsDzQi2GLdDvR1nb+9Mm7D2piABdbcdUxvaX20Ji1k7eWL9+WXKd3mEEz DUucFwxqbAloCmnDlNbRuV12gKP30vA1P7Pz9mLutJYm0adNJheIluohybiO2WJVYG5f T0gg== v8mr531045vcq.50.1407114413029; Sun, 03 Aug 2014 18:06:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.238.74 with HTTP; Sun, 3 Aug 2014 18:06:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2014 21:06:52 -0400 From: Owain Lloyd To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Electric water pump Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Good evening, Has anyone tried one of the mid mount alternator brackets on a tiger? Wondering if the alternator or the adjuster will hit the frame rail. I'm trying to work out a solution to drive the alternator with a meziere pump motor in the way. At the moment the crank pulley is too large, too far back and the alternator is too high for a clear path for the belt. It might be cleaner to use a remote mount pump. Thanks. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 11:33:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A3325808DC for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 11:33:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4593C2580444 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 11:33:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from macbook-pro.home ([unknown] [173.69.151.164]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N9S00H6ZM435W80@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 12:33:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry Paulick Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 13:33:38 -0400 Cc: tigers@autox.team.net References: <446B27F288F345DDA4321FFAF4800EF1@RedBudAdminPC> <8D17C82E3AA0FA5-1628-1D30F@webmail-m233.sysops.aol.com> Subject: Re: [Tigers] brake upgrade Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mecum Auction in Kissimmee, had 3 Tiger for sale, one was bidding for $100K, when I had to leave for an appointment. Any details on these cars, and what they sold for? Also Fatomworks tv had a Tiger that had the dash, instruments, and something else worked on in their last show. Lots of Tiger TV exposure lately. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 11:59:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF5325805C4 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 11:59:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f180.google.com (mail-vc0-f180.google.com [209.85.220.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 958DA2580444 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 11:59:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f180.google.com with SMTP id ij19so11743608vcb.11 for ; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 11:00:15 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=twyMGIzpgwpu/as3g7uPprQqUy6SJnMpR0zQdgbPPJU=; b=SNpLDppetdaMTUnhdZC1x0qPBQTivhs4zoCuUd2s61sj78rIULCmFkIKzDFNMYF4gv ly0X1tIWN07pq3tAohplkQ52qGskXNVXys0tvVAtdpPPwxSFLBlnD0GU68e9RDEySrU9 WghngxAHazd9h4ojCvNktWKHgPDbuNFUJ1suhtB5iTdb+Ma0xk+P9eNCpAPozoQGLHDx 01tAftu2Vsbj0lULghSmesRMUVDdOaR0Ii2tmw/4PTl0t4jXiVuWS0RdaWkWjd3piaCp U2a+tw7zI6S87lNiLH7aW4u/hRZS8jYsNxh+xaWuLNo95vq0vLIGUkvOnvzEFeRpqrQW /ZAQ== nx5mr20699469vdb.25.1407175214880; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 11:00:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.88.198 with HTTP; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 11:00:14 -0700 (PDT) References: <446B27F288F345DDA4321FFAF4800EF1@RedBudAdminPC> <8D17C82E3AA0FA5-1628-1D30F@webmail-m233.sysops.aol.com> <057FAE80-3E3F-4946-8F34-C75A3D2B9BCB@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 11:00:14 -0700 From: Jay Laifman To: Larry Paulick Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] brake upgrade Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Also, while we are at it, there are three if not four actions soon to occur up in Carmel. I should be up there. Anyone know if any of them are showing Tigers? If so, I can try to get to the auctions that do, to check them out. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Larry Paulick wrote: > Mecum Auction in Kissimmee, had 3 Tiger for sale, one was bidding for > $100K, > when I had to leave for an appointment. Any details on these cars, and > what > they sold for? > > Also Fatomworks tv had a Tiger that had the dash, instruments, and > something > else worked on in their last show. > > Lots of Tiger TV exposure lately. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 12:43:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD7B25844A6 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 12:43:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net (txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net [208.180.40.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1933C2580444 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 12:43:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Roscrea ([74.196.108.150]) by txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net (InterMail vM.8.04.01.08 201-2343-100-153-20121108) with ESMTP id <20140804184331.VSUW30515.txasav-vm06.suddenlink.net@Roscrea>; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:43:31 -0500 From: "Jerry Mo Christopherson" To: "'Jay Laifman'" , "'Larry Paulick'" References: <446B27F288F345DDA4321FFAF4800EF1@RedBudAdminPC> <8D17C82E3AA0FA5-1628-1D30F@webmail-m233.sysops.aol.com> <057FAE80-3E3F-4946-8F34-C75A3D2B9BCB@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:42:47 -0500 Thread-Index: AQKs3j5iXK1shJiOfwjiZt7jbtJJ7QMSFrD2AkKjSBACKl+BRpnKcB4g Content-Language: en-us a=xzW3HwPJiLYA:10 a=VPHkNMUpP2kA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=8LaAqv5HAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=R18fer-9YA45h1cUS_kA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=gPGHqaX6uacA:10 Cc: 'Tiger's Den' Subject: Re: [Tigers] brake upgrade Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net A friend of mine will have his 67 Mark II up for auction in August (15th-16th I think) at the RA Auctions in Monterey. He had it professionally restored with no "holds barred" so it should be very nice. It's lot #159. For ALL those that can afford it, now is your chance. Jerry Christopherson 9473187 -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Laifman Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 1:00 PM To: Larry Paulick Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] brake upgrade Also, while we are at it, there are three if not four actions soon to occur up in Carmel. I should be up there. Anyone know if any of them are showing Tigers? If so, I can try to get to the auctions that do, to check them out. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Larry Paulick wrote: > Mecum Auction in Kissimmee, had 3 Tiger for sale, one was bidding for > $100K, when I had to leave for an appointment. Any details on these > cars, and what they sold for? > > Also Fatomworks tv had a Tiger that had the dash, instruments, and > something else worked on in their last show. > > Lots of Tiger TV exposure lately. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jcmc2006@suddenlink.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 13:08:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F1142584448 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:08:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm9-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm9-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.139]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCD8D2580444 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 13:08:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.101.130] by nm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2014 19:08:53 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.162] by tm18.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2014 19:08:53 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1063.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Aug 2014 19:08:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 74257 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Aug 2014 19:08:53 -0000 s=s1024; t=1407179332; bh=f8o5ID2YwmiQcCuCmoHJ13Vsd/I6ecJNP8waLWDlHMs=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=l14Y7cT3EsNs+BMH3JVr3EtrBAArzp/DTRXuq0VymprVv6Pbw56BP3lg0/Wo4aeMzurBlq4qODpCrJrWrUBeFvFHJ0P/M+9UXLbPE20JT+wftY7X3i/+8O5fsmVw1fIOGoF8XtZAMJVmPdcAsvKAD6+4HZ5EheIv4i9nfJcNAdQ= 5SHWS4Ib454GSPr14I03zY9aw4vemSFXEqbe4QjLI0dmOZvOl1P5nSQVzaUn G76xUWSd42iLTWhWoP0LhgvMZWpQfiINmh5vH6LCxB7TEa_wvZX53s8Bz2dr MoKkcr15KUklvDldiMo7uxcM_L0XzS591Mlk.6lBpnOGxs9H6JM51vqSyW93 kkKRFheyfoFkSzDNL_cXoewV5aB9noeKnv6DjtsqbLRmL3SK9DpiUWgUzQWK t1TzUoF_j30O6dfzS_5mtXHfFn4FdlzgNcZY4Yg699CWweAEvUtF52ySzoZH oohXwoOQaaA2DZcuwz_Y6apfpDUfUMJ6bhL_gXuSz_jA7eeyOo8IS0iMJN4q NtCA_day_liEsuqTLpeZfif3_5RUAWJh97gszciQvCScIm7_zL.ReUf2lTfd uqpzOtXYnh_8YJtiLGElUt6OYuYzaHU0pZnrRGzeQJaMzOGpp3g040is6JRA LuH3890i8NbSCzZemfC3qaZpkseCudpf4LhHmSTT0venUrUWqq6D9iZ4a1d1 0RqutErm3YrCp44ukGKLlF0O2UtBBrc6dOys9cL_CYHbds1hm.80kVN06E.6 _VQb2eu7DNl8NWF8l_NbF6h_cllD0qIcbEXagANFAQfwJq2m28Uba6X9clLE g Received: from [15.203.233.77] by web121906.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 12:08:51 PDT Rm9yIHJlZiwgaGVyZSdzIHRoZSBsaW5rIHRvIHRoYXQgYXVjdGlvbjrCoAoKMTk2NyBTdW5iZWFtIFRpZ2VyIE1rIElJIHwgTW9udGVyZXkgMjAxNCB8IFJNIEFVQ1RJT05TwqAKCsKgIArCoCAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgwqAgCjE5NjcgU3VuYmVhbSBUaWdlciBNayBJSSB8IE1vbnRlcmV5IDIwMTQgfCBSTSBBVUNULi4uClRoZSBnbG9iYWwgbGVhZGVyIGluIHRoZSBjb2xsZWN0b3IgY2FyIGluZHVzdHJ5LiBTZXJ2aWNlcyBpbmNsdWRlIGF1Y3Rpb25zLCByZXN0b3JhdGlvbiwgYXBwcmFpc2FscywgY29sbGVjdGkBMAEBAQE- References: <446B27F288F345DDA4321FFAF4800EF1@RedBudAdminPC> <8D17C82E3AA0FA5-1628-1D30F@webmail-m233.sysops.aol.com> <057FAE80-3E3F-4946-8F34-C75A3D2B9BCB@verizon.net> <000001cfb013$e32147b0$a963d710$@suddenlink.net> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 12:08:51 -0700 From: Stephen Waybright To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger auctions (was brake upgrade) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net For ref, here's the link to that auction: 1967 Sunbeam Tiger Mk II | Monterey 2014 | RM AUCTIONS 1967 Sunbeam Tiger Mk II | Monterey 2014 | RM AUCT... The global leader in the collector car industry. Services include auctions, restoration, appraisals, collection advice, private treaty and estate sales. We offer... View on www.rmauctions.com Preview by Yahoo Stephen Waybright ________________________________ From: Jerry Mo Christopherson To: 'Jay Laifman' ; 'Larry Paulick' Cc: 'Tiger's Den' Sent: Monday, August 4, 2014 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] brake upgrade A friend of mine will have his 67 Mark II up for auction in August (15th-16th I think) at the RA Auctions in Monterey. He had it professionally restored with no "holds barred" so it should be very nice. It's lot #159. For ALL those that can afford it, now is your chance. Jerry Christopherson 9473187 -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jay Laifman Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 1:00 PM To: Larry Paulick Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] brake upgrade Also, while we are at it, there are three if not four actions soon to occur up in Carmel. I should be up there. Anyone know if any of them are showing Tigers? If so, I can try to get to the auctions that do, to check them out. On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Larry Paulick wrote: > Mecum Auction in Kissimmee, had 3 Tiger for sale, one was bidding for > $100K, when I had to leave for an appointment. Any details on these > cars, and what they sold for? > > Also Fatomworks tv had a Tiger that had the dash, instruments, and > something else worked on in their last show. > > Lots of Tiger TV exposure lately. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jcmc2006@suddenlink.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/gswaybright@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 14:32:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82792584609 for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:32:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2lp0204.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E948C25805BF for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:32:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLUPR06MB548.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.141.205.24) by BLUPR06MB546.namprd06.prod.outlook.com (10.141.205.18) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.995.14; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 20:32:19 +0000 Received: from BLUPR06MB548.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.205.24]) by BLUPR06MB548.namprd06.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.205.24]) with mapi id 15.00.0995.014; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 20:32:18 +0000 From: Greg Koss To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] brake upgrade Thread-Index: tTKNGRyLxv6dZD57l+r6GaKQ1LR8HrpChO4AgAAgWgCAAzzyAIAAMesA Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 20:32:18 +0000 References: <446B27F288F345DDA4321FFAF4800EF1@RedBudAdminPC> <8D17C82E3AA0FA5-1628-1D30F@webmail-m233.sysops.aol.com> <057FAE80-3E3F-4946-8F34-C75A3D2B9BCB@verizon.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [12.174.136.146] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID: x-forefront-prvs: 0293D40691 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(199002)(189002)(13464003)(377454003)(15975445006)(79102001)(76482001)(77982001)(2351001)(76576001)(81542001)(99396002)(54356999)(46102001)(107886001)(19580395003)(86362001)(33646002)(31966008)(85306004)(15188155005)(20776003)(76176999)(15202345003)(80022001)(50986999)(74316001)(2656002)(106356001)(66066001)(107046002)(16799955002)(83322001)(105586002)(21056001)(19580405001)(4396001)(83072002)(87936001)(64706001)(101416001)(92566001)(81342001)(74502001)(95666004)(85852003)(74662001)(110136001)(99286002)(24736002)(108616003); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BLUPR06MB546; H:BLUPR06MB548.namprd06.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; LANG:en; Subject: Re: [Tigers] brake upgrade Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I just saw this episode of Counting Cars mentioned in the CAT Forum. http://www.catmbr.org/VB_forum/showthread.php?t=2716 -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Paulick Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 1:34 PM Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] brake upgrade Mecum Auction in Kissimmee, had 3 Tiger for sale, one was bidding for $100K, when I had to leave for an appointment. Any details on these cars, and what they sold for? Also Fatomworks tv had a Tiger that had the dash, instruments, and something else worked on in their last show. Lots of Tiger TV exposure lately. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/greg.koss@trw.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 4 16:00:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A13258460F for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 16:00:26 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B610325803FF for ; Mon, 4 Aug 2014 16:00:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [76.179.167.4] ([76.179.167.4:55505] helo=[192.168.1.106]) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 4A/54-10099-39200E35; Mon, 04 Aug 2014 22:00:51 +0000 Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 18:00:51 -0400 From: Tod Brown User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: tigers@autox.team.net, lpaulick1@verizon.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mecum Auction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The Mecum Auction in Kissimmee was back in January. According to their web page, they had four Tigers cross the block, all red in color. The two that sold went for $30K and $33K. The other two did not sell, with the high bids being $37K and $95K. I found two Tiger II's that will be coming to auction at Monterey: Lot 159 at the RM Auction and Lot S180 at the Mecum Auction (restored by Scott Woerth and estimated at $150K-$175K). Cheers, Tod B382002384LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 07:45:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B15525807C8 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 07:45:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173023pub.verizon.net (vms173023pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.23]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CA7625803B3 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 07:43:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from macbook-pro.home ([unknown] [173.69.151.164]) by vms173023.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N9U00LO1648L700@vms173023.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 08:43:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Larry Paulick Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 09:43:19 -0400 References: <53E00293.2040006@roadrunner.com> To: Tod Brown Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mecum Auction Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for the info Tod. Funny the last bid I saw was for $100K, but nice to see the recognition. The commentators kept saying these cars had electrical problems. Old myths never die. There is nothing wrong with a Tiger electrical system that a good ground wont fix. Larry On Aug 4, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Tod Brown wrote: > The Mecum Auction in Kissimmee was back in January. According to their web page, they had four Tigers cross the block, all red in color. The two that sold went for $30K and $33K. The other two did not sell, with the high bids being $37K and $95K. > > I found two Tiger II's that will be coming to auction at Monterey: Lot 159 at the RM Auction and Lot S180 at the Mecum Auction (restored by Scott Woerth and estimated at $150K-$175K). > > Cheers, > > Tod > B382002384LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 13:19:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F0525849F7 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:19:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-37.everyone.net (sitemail3.everyone.net [216.200.145.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE28525806D7 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:17:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004959.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s75JGxwd000443 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 12:18:14 -0700 Received: by dm0224.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a206) id dm0224.53c897ac.12dd75 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 12:18:10 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.145.81]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 19:18:05 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 15:17:34 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+w4eiOieFW8B57S6SCNslhRcL6+Q== engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.27,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-08-05_07:2014-08-05,2014-08-05,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=6 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1408050235 Subject: [Tigers] throttle bracket plate update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mark Rense found a reference to a similar looking plate in some Edelbrock literature so it appears to be an Edelbrock part. See pg 3 in pdf - 1490/ 1844 adaptor http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/misc/tech-center/install/7000/7521.pdf I think this is an interesting part that will put the Tiger throttle bracket in a better position. The slot in this part is for universal fitment which can be eliminated if desired and I think a stud should be threaded or welded to the plate. Thanks to Gene for introducing this part and Mark for finding a reference about this part. Ron Fraser _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 13:50:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C27258498A for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:50:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo202.cox.net (eastrmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.217]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECD425807A3 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 13:50:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo210 ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140805195055.VZPQ22448.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo210> for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 15:50:55 -0400 Received: from eastrmwml208 ([172.18.18.217]) by eastrmimpo210 with cox id b7qv1o00E4h0NJL017qv2i; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 15:50:55 -0400 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:17 a=R10dmaQd-g0A:10 a=MgXxAfegWlIA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=UyHOC7Gu_PIA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=UnzTgHv9AAAA:8 a=4eAIaXMcAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=Y6J-5BoUvqc4D2oYu44A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=a0o1xVR2z_QA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 204.61.12.74 by webmail.east.cox.net; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 15:50:55 -0400 Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 15:50:55 -0400 From: To: rfraser@bluefrog.com, tigers@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Tigers] throttle bracket plate update Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Great discovery, Mark and Ron!!! It's guys like you two that make this list worth it's weight in gold!!! Andy Walker Edmond, OK ---- Ron Fraser wrote: > Mark Rense found a reference to a similar looking plate in some > Edelbrock literature so it appears to be an Edelbrock part. > > See pg 3 in pdf - 1490/ 1844 adaptor > > http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/misc/tech-center/install/7000/7521.pdf > > I think this is an interesting part that will put the Tiger throttle bracket > in a better position. > The slot in this part is for universal fitment which can be eliminated if > desired and I think a stud should be threaded or welded to the plate. > > Thanks to Gene for introducing this part and Mark for finding a reference > about this part. > > Ron Fraser > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/awtiger@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 16:52:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B870258087A for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:52:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm22-vm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38CF258087A for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:47:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.171] by nm22.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2014 22:47:36 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.231] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2014 22:47:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2014 22:47:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 40208 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Aug 2014 22:47:36 -0000 s=s1024; t=1407278856; bh=YeH6n3lyRIzE+NmnrpO90gZAcCv/G6f1+BDueqR1R2s=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aha5DViJWc2bkzAtTt9UnZYrd9Spm70qF0/5fecOXcS94p6wxUDW/On5qFr78nQyIP0IV7Ix3kaTU6CC0XV4MLOLVUWzQWpMjxUd9+exEot/fxH7Hs6GDod36KDycm5C+YQrJaA+Tv6UyPYtRqvzej5XO+Q8CGdehPDTQVCwKNo= Xof4nsFBq28l93tnkz6fo3j5nSMSQ2PUdFWugPTMXVwQpU7ZapVhBSOLscNg fDSvoZjJk1phCdCDfsTX71.PoKLV6AjzQ90vHR6.Pk99uUQVeD3P0WQsDhbt JCTfmf9wBozlfXi4Jm5vPTnqJ77z5B4ddmI8FFVoZw88usL_U5bVQwUu9zrW uBTBb_EhjAv.26h35EFqhwmXqlk7QMBkARjdbIL2HP8WU65QJBj6LLwrYJVs nlry.yPX0i9opuy7WQuLyEajN5XERZc63SYALkMW3awxScatnUWCdnCkotit xFDVJqwN8jA9xFCZqXkdxKj09Xn6FaBIkB7AXfHhB3Rhmd5RfAqUcalf4kAm gaU1gZ3CvDzzlwDMXJ_L7P28h5e50W7ze7Jxu8yZlMPP_nb67qVal8IN6NHG A7hnreN6UtwGlLWNA5n_otgNYTeeeWRen3oYrde9RElpQOZ9qH3RidamkTTp .GQLawJor9IYAo.Dt3h6434iDtXCNo20SDwrvAkoGX_Q11P3JV7AdNkia2wU ZYbb_jxa1Okk6TFo- Received: from [99.136.112.8] by web185004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 15:47:36 PDT SSdtIGxvb2tpbmcgdG8gYnV5IG9uZSAxNCIgWCA2IiBQYW5hc3BvcnQgd2hlZWwgZm9yIGEgVGlnZXIuIMKgV2FudCB0aGUgd2hlZWwgdG8gdXNlIHdpdGggbXkgc3BhcmUgdGlyZS4uLiBzbyBub3QgMTAwJSBuZWNlc3NhcnkgdGhhdCB0aGUgd2hlZWwgYmUgInBlcmZlY3QiIGJ1dCB3aWxsIHBheSBhcHByb3ByaWF0ZWx5IGlmIGluIHRoYXQga2luZCBvZiBjb25kaXRpb24uCgpKdXN0IHdvbmRlcmluZyBpZiBhbnlvbmUgaGFwcGVucyB0byBoYXZlIG9uZSB0aGV5J2QgbGlrZSB0byBwYXJ0IHdpdGguCgpSZWcBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 15:47:36 -0700 From: Bill Waite To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Looking for one (1) Panasport 14" X 6" wheel for use as spare Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I'm looking to buy one 14" X 6" Panasport wheel for a Tiger. Want the wheel to use with my spare tire... so not 100% necessary that the wheel be "perfect" but will pay appropriately if in that kind of condition. Just wondering if anyone happens to have one they'd like to part with. Regards, Bill Waote Grand Rapids, MI _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 5 16:52:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB09258087A for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:52:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm16-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm16-vm3.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.63.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 453F4258087A for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 16:48:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.166] by nm16.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2014 22:49:25 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.240] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2014 22:49:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1011.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Aug 2014 22:49:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 78824 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Aug 2014 22:49:25 -0000 s=s1024; t=1407278965; bh=oiuXLcwLslMH/FT/1Kii2IKJhXrztppjJEf2B0qSzY4=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0N7nQ9HWjtnipLV2Oe6/paH4zUta/kTLf9v+dMAcXxzI3+yEns52+QJPxo1ivTda+DxssrAjSxRmRaVXZafCInFZZGo9EwYk8OiKtUVtX+pLr/7O27+LuNm9X8Hg7+blwkr9W/zOoI52gsTNMjsf8gtSLVYIWDYVXqNqBJhkplo= Ikk__bIPPQXcdsqUEizgOzdSsQJh.o45GRtEGAOxSIoWMAtGEt97s1RRBHwm UbQe96424aG1v7l9XjYQ1ZFWxO5Sc73j4b_VSuwD_Zzh9B7AhO3ekb191U1P Y9IWMP9vZSBDXfSgKQdJhQ6s14kNPMXjs1JGVrxe5KNLn.viOuHHgXDxdQIR rG8axtjajOgVti_lcMeUCEUJCoL2zP2gcQDr_f3sH5Ueq5Ys72WJxhpO_CfU 43axFXhyrvMvNVHjg7KtJvNRPI2zcdnQ86l6bDDFVARHi4gRF3f_YkWyoSZ8 J6XZno7LWQ4HyNXgyXupocrVOtMUxZGRXZdq5Ekh_txATYrX9aL58GJYKKBw RH7ZbgxUuvOiUa2ZgGjxMnrh0N3UxzAKmvi01Z5cc_eII.VWaYbkXouGOzYB Q3E.uoy1TOhZbPyF5Dku.erGbL.UWHIk5zxbFdDRkYTVnWQd8Zk5aHFoyqzh c8bCTjjSIhhcr5o5WfQhJKDCh2DnTyEX.nzIzIstMPdgQ9oSXp3pjrD2wUgd 5j2cox9vIpw-- Received: from [99.136.112.8] by web185003.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 15:49:25 PDT SnVzdCBhcyBJIHR5cGVkICJXYWl0ZSIgYW5kIGhpdCBzZW5kLCBteSBjYXQgd2Fsa2VkIGJldHdlZW4gbWUgYW5kIHRoZSBtb25pdG9yLiDCoE5hbWUgaXMgV2FpdGUsIG5vdCBXYW90ZS4gwqBCdXQsIGhlY2suLi4geW91IGNhbiBjYWxsIG1lIHRoYXQsIG9yIGFueXRoaW5nLCBqdXN0IGRvbid0IGNhbGwgbWUgIkNoZXZ5LiIKCkJpbGwKCgpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXwogRnJvbTogQmlsbCBXYWl0ZSA8Zm9yZGxhbmRpYUBzYmNnbG9iYWwubmV0PgpUbzogInRpZ2Vyc0BhdXRveC4BMAEBAQE- References: <1407278856.65623.YahooMailNeo@web185004.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 15:49:25 -0700 From: Bill Waite To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Looking for one (1) Panasport 14" X 6" wheel for use as spare Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Just as I typed "Waite" and hit send, my cat walked between me and the monitor. Name is Waite, not Waote. But, heck... you can call me that, or anything, just don't call me "Chevy." Bill ________________________________ From: Bill Waite To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 6:47 PM Subject: Looking for one (1) Panasport 14" X 6" wheel for use as spare I'm looking to buy one 14" X 6" Panasport wheel for a Tiger. Want the wheel to use with my spare tire... so not 100% necessary that the wheel be "perfect" but will pay appropriately if in that kind of condition. Just wondering if anyone happens to have one they'd like to part with. Regards, Bill Waote Grand Rapids, MI _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 19:05:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D732584480 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 19:05:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D122580880 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 18:41:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ownerHP ([unknown] [98.117.220.143]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N9W002POVALASG0@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 19:42:22 -0500 (CDT) From: "Clyde McLaughlin" To: Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 20:42:23 -0400 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac+x1qZ/u9DpUHTNRCa6qZfV4f+nSw== Subject: [Tigers] spare wheel Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I can understand bill wanting a spare to match wheels on the car..but here's a thought, I have a matching minilite spare that goes with the wheels on the car..the judges hit me twice!! Yes once for none lat wheels on the car and then hit me again for none original or lat spare, I think one hit's enough, if the spare matches that should be worth something, not a double hit!! Just my 2 cents worth, clyde _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 19:05:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C734425844A7 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 19:05:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mf3.dido.com (mf3zd.socket.net [216.106.85.253]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1F532580880 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 18:47:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from RedBudAdminPC (unknown [199.187.162.108]) by mf3.dido.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9646040BFF for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 19:48:13 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jim McLaughlin" To: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 19:48:20 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac+x2UjvfKT6/3CjTdmp09X70LVyWQ== Subject: [Tigers] Dash switch postions when off and heater box Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Folks: Okay so I am working on my heater valve and the shut off cable. In order to route the cable properly I had to remove the heater box, so I thought I'd clean it. Then I dropped it and it broke what a clumsy move. When removing the box, I had to disconnect the heater switch wires that are routed to the 2-speed resistor. The service manual lists the off position as up and then low speed in the middle and fast speed as all the way down. Every Sunbeam I have ever had all switches off in the down position. This actually seemed safer when driving. What is the correct off switch position for each of the switches, up or down? Anybody have a spare Smiths heater box? Jim McLaughlin B382000175LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 6 21:37:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009AD258448F for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:37:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f44.google.com (mail-oi0-f44.google.com [209.85.218.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEF7A258445A for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 21:10:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f44.google.com with SMTP id x69so2297423oia.31 for ; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 20:11:16 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=e8tojOvENu8nxfSqfAhBrTeQKHRgIbFPuh0IJarNRF0=; b=hsFAVP+2dFe3gMJHIFBhyGX3HUxXSuyzUYQsgMBEVDBmP1KclCxmhppSuAm44DqjPo gSZIVeXfdbAQeX0gHm3ruM3NjCqkfao++SSaCkVO2LfnHGagHljWAfIn3xKYspvF+4AB V9mQxqgrQ8womEf6ppBqHTd49ghQwGyNcsC3FLZqaFKbRlDrW+lqqNRgK7QS/hQruvWi 7f5RobzeEbm9hsAPJqYStsz39TiGfbGtyl64l1O8tb7FctcThBjv9xDKuZjI8SGMwupa L0z7ZjZvoi+G2g88BBxJcgNNzwGb1HMMuqEO8V2KKb+GtFjZSq8DpTWLOf1Xe15ymjCU labQ== jr10mr43647oeb.85.1407381076835; Wed, 06 Aug 2014 20:11:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.228.196 with HTTP; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 20:11:16 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 11:11:16 +0800 From: michael king To: Jim McLaughlin Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dash switch postions when off and heater box Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The toggle switches should be off when at the top facing the sky... On when down. For some reason in the states when people restore them they reverse it... I assume this has to do with way house light switches are oriented to work in homes stateside. If you look at road test pics stateside cars still had switched up for off when new On 7 August 2014 08:48, Jim McLaughlin wrote: > Folks: > > > > Okay so I am working on my heater valve and the shut off cable. In order > to > route the cable properly I had to remove the heater box, so I thought I'd > clean it. Then I dropped it and it broke what a clumsy move. > > > > When removing the box, I had to disconnect the heater switch wires that are > routed to the 2-speed resistor. The service manual lists the off position > as up and then low speed in the middle and fast speed as all the way down. > Every Sunbeam I have ever had all switches off in the down position. This > actually seemed safer when driving. > > > > What is the correct off switch position for each of the switches, up or > down? Anybody have a spare Smiths heater box? > > > > Jim McLaughlin > > B382000175LRXFE > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 07:08:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E663725844B4 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:08:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408C5258079F for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:08:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta003.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s77D2UHo031283; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 06:08:34 -0700 Received: by dm0225.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a207) id dm0225.53e13539.13384; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 06:08:31 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.146.103]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 13:08:31 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'michael king'" , "'Jim McLaughlin'" Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 09:08:26 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+x8OpoAtN522E8Soq2pLp30guFsAATtKYg engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.27,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-08-07_04:2014-08-06,2014-08-07,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1408070163 Cc: 'Tiger Talk List Tiger' Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dash switch postions when off and heater box Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net My switches are OFF in the UP position. The connections on the back of the switch are marked 1 - 8. I put the 1 position at the top when I installed the switches. Obviously this can be changed to suit the owners perspective of where ON should be located. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of michael king Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 11:11 PM To: Jim McLaughlin Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dash switch postions when off and heater box The toggle switches should be off when at the top facing the sky... On when down. For some reason in the states when people restore them they reverse it... I assume this has to do with way house light switches are oriented to work in homes stateside. If you look at road test pics stateside cars still had switched up for off when new On 7 August 2014 08:48, Jim McLaughlin wrote: > Folks: > > > > Okay so I am working on my heater valve and the shut off cable. In > order to route the cable properly I had to remove the heater box, so I > thought I'd clean it. Then I dropped it and it broke what a clumsy > move. > > > > When removing the box, I had to disconnect the heater switch wires > that are routed to the 2-speed resistor. The service manual lists the > off position as up and then low speed in the middle and fast speed as > all the way down. Every Sunbeam I have ever had all switches off in > the down position. This actually seemed safer when driving. > > > > What is the correct off switch position for each of the switches, up > or down? Anybody have a spare Smiths heater box? > > > > Jim McLaughlin > > B382000175LRXFE _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 07:08:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA6925844D4 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:08:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.187]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A5E325844A3 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:08:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.151] by nm28.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2014 13:09:21 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.245] by tm8.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2014 13:09:21 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1054.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2014 13:09:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 10793 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Aug 2014 13:09:21 -0000 s=s1024; t=1407416961; bh=Y81BOKO+NRPzUbsxSiv/6sQqgya2lpiAqzqOlwvzOxI=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=r6WwPLqpy1wMQPRPy/xtTAe195OcZZurTxmlwzM3qY8HxSEaRorGNaLpMQnLxAaCvPfWFJBwnJzzNzrIHwuTh/pgWmIHi34xWDLTqit9jNFTm3OOETws/9werldEXt7bJV+EHLrNW3pTK/FRhYJY8GCD7xXCdnC0xReoJNA7xz0= aZxL6gJT6CilbwrrR8vfZBtraKsPExgRXSgIokW3GrX9w.1TO_kaEmTeqwXZ Hu8uoP4.9MNgd7LC3mPFTcYQL1BCAysvGbnPeuHaQXAec8tU2vogxxMJoGzd vUtQVbvYJ0.Zatf0e3fgI4Anhp3KMWWLMNrwelCyBwC7YqkXDq9pvpNBjB8S zYHbWiPdxcMOY5jC9weO6cPKf_VTuDX1Uy7NWcc49A12pNREVPGR_sJWkuSz ehuJo5y0I3lEiNLO6iq8ICT.Y39tSJAhmzK.XG806nkpmZsqZ7M0y8BtBs2S CGqmfaVOD0bfJB5Oh.h.nvpvH0YHRPl9IcquoxDXr6lzhU5.dNeh.7i4h5KS V6f8WQ1yM0kFXhPopgWVe7ZCBVrGJfWg_a9uuRmJqHJasjSoDHbVuA8Mv1C8 YbrcNeyjCZX6udBAesTl.egaIUOa.YCSzj8vOoccYaNi2RhiQuzA4G.fWTmU CLtUDBMOIIi1IHjJp0UffH8SiOpo3O0gi_Jk- Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 06:09:21 PDT UmVtZW1iZXIgYSBtb250aCBhZ28gd2hlbiBQZXRlciBNYWNEb25hbGQgcmVwb3J0ZWQgZnJvbSB0aGUgVUsgdGhhdCB0aGUgQXVndXN0IDIwMTQgaXNzdWUgb2YgdGhlIFVLIHB1YmxpY2F0aW9uIENsYXNzaWMgYW5kIFNwb3J0cyBDYXIgbWFnYXppbmUgd291bGQgZmVhdHVyZSBhIHN0b3J5IG9mIHRoZSBUaWdlcnMnIDUwdGggQW5uaXZlcnNhcnkgYW5kIHNpeC1wYWdlIHN0b3J5IG9mIGEgTWVkaXRlcnJhbmVhbiBCbHVlKGxvb2tzIHRvIGJlIGEgTWFyayBJLCB0aGUgYXJ0aWNsZSBzYXlzIE1hcmsgSUEpIFQBMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 06:09:21 -0700 From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tiger article hits the US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Remember a month ago when Peter MacDonald reported from the UK that the August 2014 issue of the UK publication Classic and Sports Car magazine would feature a story of the Tigers' 50th Anniversary and six-page story of a Mediterranean Blue(looks to be a Mark I, the article says Mark IA) Tiger. This issue has finally reached Barnes and Noble magazine shelves this week in the US. Definitely worth picking up a copy, with the added features of a story about used BMW Z8's and used V8 Ferrari's If you can't find a copy locally, let me know offline, and on Monday morning I'll fill orders and mail them. Owing to the weight and cost of this 266 page publication, I can mail a limited number of these out for $20 postpaid per copy. 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Concours chairmen correct me, but in some cases, non LAT alloys would only place it in a personalized class. Also my understanding is that originally, Tigers with LAT road wheels rightfully came with a stock steel wheel spare, as the LAT option was only for four wheels, not five. Rande Bellman On Wednesday, August 6, 2014 9:05 PM, Clyde McLaughlin wrote: I can understand bill wanting a spare to match wheels on the car..but here's a thought, I have a matching minilite spare that goes with the wheels on the car..the judges hit me twice!! Yes once for none lat wheels on the car and then hit me again for none original or lat spare, I think one hit's enough, if the spare matches that should be worth something, not a double hit!! 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[74.82.80.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id qp11sm20730826igb.21.2014.08.07.06.31.20 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 07 Aug 2014 06:31:20 -0700 (PDT) Sensitivity: Normal To: "Jim McLaughlin" ,"Tigers" ,tigers@autox.team.net From: jay.laifman@gmail.com Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 13:31:17 +0000 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Dash switch postions when off and heater box Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Ha! "Every Sunbeam I've owned" had the switches UP in the off position. On a slightly related topic, I did actually switch the turnsignal and high beam lights. I believe stock is with the lens pushed up for brighter. I had a lens that wanted to fall down, so that it would put itself in the dull position. So I flipped them to have gravity keep them in the bright position. On another slightly related topic, I never used the panel light switch. So I rewired the panel to always go on when the lights are on. And used the switch to run the fuel pump through. ------Original Message------ From: Jim McLaughlin To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Dash switch postions when off and heater box Sent: Aug 6, 2014 5:48 PM Folks: Okay so I am working on my heater valve and the shut off cable. In order to route the cable properly I had to remove the heater box, so I thought I'd clean it. Then I dropped it and it broke what a clumsy move. When removing the box, I had to disconnect the heater switch wires that are routed to the 2-speed resistor. The service manual lists the off position as up and then low speed in the middle and fast speed as all the way down. Every Sunbeam I have ever had all switches off in the down position. This actually seemed safer when driving. What is the correct off switch position for each of the switches, up or down? Anybody have a spare Smiths heater box? Jim McLaughlin B382000175LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 07:51:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E6C72584D3A for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:51:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm26-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm26-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C8825844A1 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:44:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm26.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2014 13:45:11 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.212] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2014 13:45:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1021.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Aug 2014 13:45:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 47846 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Aug 2014 13:45:11 -0000 s=s1024; t=1407419111; bh=sJNl+rY7vyehKfRk6BWQSs5uLq5+k+ov3kH8r8epb6g=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FbwA3/25be2oJoF7nSJTOcbjgMhFiTyjweqBDVrBPYvFrvTq9vmMjfPW3PH+BPuT3BaLEQ1p8efGue4aJwt+Vhtv2P2DJU859UZzIJpsUd+T41EJqcqqZzLNwOas1aFuqFx2P4xZWpegwJSvfYfjvQDq2wyMabCmSr+xK6hfJWI= cKd_r_Lww0Amjllzav15J3noGZamsE6zu9GgGSHz7C5Jl_YG0mYmVZzy4sMk KaDewtMwmvggs_BjI7QIdXBoYU5i6lr.zJZRRScyuWBD37amHDLz1.62ipLs nMk9Y20epSJ1opg5E3hegdBKru4Sd31QAa1GFAnoQl7g6cYD3oD1q779CX4w m4_jomoYDkrimoIl8bXRLcd.MOUTA_q2h6dTMSrQd1A5QFvmDxjaJqqFwTDE eqzE.5TjoQA5Qqv..7G_g6V99.BSlSf.xZBdrSelXcCGUkS68p05qnjbYGfN .RHHggmf5EXJbbYHpZFVyJ7BbJj6aPhSSDQmz0xCesrhufP9UQzd4HEFSXg_ qesK5bH.7rIoOddFZVOjlHuEJzL9xBJWa_NEVdvuTZqmKa.yLJpweZX7bqlh UwugcjD9yazPtoK.QrS4AXisc12WdBvUu94HvevIc1noSyR96B4am5.Qmcft rk3qwFHgHRB_n_.muI1yYsNSAYvorhJkHMHU- Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 06:45:11 PDT SSBsb29rZWQgaW4gbXkgVGlnZXIgSUkgb3duZXJzIGhhbmRib29rLCBhbmQgdGhlIHNlcGFyYXRlIHRvZ2dsZSBzd2l0Y2ggZm9yIHRoZSBibG93ZXIgaXMgdHVybmVkIG9mZiBpbiB0aGUgZnVydGhlc3QgJ3VwJyBwb3NpdGlvbi4KCicgVXAnIGZvciBvZmYgaXMgYWxzbyB0aGUgcG9zaXRpb24gZm9yIHRoZSBsaWdodHMsIHdpcGVycywgYW5kIHBhbmVsIGxpZ2h0cy4gSSBrbm93IEppbSdzIGNhciBpcyBhIDFBLCBidXQgdGhlIEkvSUEgaGFuZGJvb2sgc3RpbGwgc2hvd3MgdGhlIGJsb3dlciBzd2l0Y2ggYXMBMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 06:45:11 -0700 From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Toggle switches - on or off Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I looked in my Tiger II owners handbook, and the separate toggle switch for the blower is turned off in the furthest 'up' position. ' Up' for off is also the position for the lights, wipers, and panel lights. I know Jim's car is a 1A, but the I/IA handbook still shows the blower switch as part of the Off-Car-Screen heater lever. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 07:54:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B412584DDD for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:54:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CB12584923 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 07:54:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.249.58.18] ([unknown] [174.236.198.248]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N9X007ICVYXEY20@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 08:54:35 -0500 (CDT) User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android From: Clyde Mclaughlin Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 09:54:45 -0400 To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Rear axle Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I'm looking for a spare rear axle assembly and a square corner hood..would like a hood that i can modify, so does,t need to be perfect, clyde -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 08:56:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 478C62584DEF for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:56:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo203.cox.net (eastrmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.218]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC95E2584D5C for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:56:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo109 ([68.230.241.222]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140807145642.TEXM2658.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo109> for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:56:42 -0400 Received: from JHP ([72.205.39.75]) by eastrmimpo109 with cox id bqwg1o00K1dHVuG01qwhJU; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 10:56:42 -0400 a=0Nm72dJp9Kgw8EhUP4ZIJg==:17 a=PSU7_tCVFeYA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=tM45SGW6P9YlXXR2qg8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=0Nm72dJp9Kgw8EhUP4ZIJg==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "James Lindner" To: "Clyde Mclaughlin" References: Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:56:38 -0400 Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] Rear axle Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Clyde There is a hood on ebay right now...Buy it now $125. See link. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sunbeam-Alpine-Tiger-Hood-Bonnet-/261519055648?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3ce3c01b20&vxp=mtr Jim -----Original Message----- From: Clyde Mclaughlin Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 9:54 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Rear axle I'm looking for a spare rear axle assembly and a square corner hood..would like a hood that i can modify, so does,t need to be perfect, clyde -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jliny5@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 08:59:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82D872584E20 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:59:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo203.cox.net (eastrmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.218]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB232584D5C for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 08:59:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo110 ([68.230.241.223]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140807145959.TILF2658.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo110> for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:59:59 -0400 Received: from JHP ([72.205.39.75]) by eastrmimpo110 with cox id bqzy1o00D1dHVuG01qzzj3; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 10:59:59 -0400 a=0Nm72dJp9Kgw8EhUP4ZIJg==:17 a=PSU7_tCVFeYA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=pjdaNNIBAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=Y2jb6c9gIfF2k6VI2aQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=0Nm72dJp9Kgw8EhUP4ZIJg==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "James Lindner" To: "Clyde Mclaughlin" Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 10:59:56 -0400 Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] Rear axle Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Clyde Sorry...I looked closer...it is a round corner hood. Jim -----Original Message----- From: James Lindner Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 10:56 AM To: Clyde Mclaughlin Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] Rear axle Clyde There is a hood on ebay right now...Buy it now $125. See link. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sunbeam-Alpine-Tiger-Hood-Bonnet-/261519055648?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3ce3c01b20&vxp=mtr Jim -----Original Message----- From: Clyde Mclaughlin Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 9:54 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Rear axle I'm looking for a spare rear axle assembly and a square corner hood..would like a hood that i can modify, so does,t need to be perfect, clyde -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jliny5@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 12:41:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A82DA2584580 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 12:41:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FBC2584485 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 12:39:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from user1PC ([unknown] [108.47.32.37]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N9Y00C67962YT40@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 13:39:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "Tom Witt" To: References: <1407419111.99687.YahooMailNeo@web162706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 11:39:35 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Toggle switches - on or off Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Apparently someone at Rootes had Vertical Dyslexia. Or..., they had the ability to walk on the ceiling. -----Original Message----- From: snakebit289 Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 6:45 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Toggle switches - on or off I looked in my Tiger II owners handbook, and the separate toggle switch for the blower is turned off in the furthest 'up' position. ' Up' for off is also the position for the lights, wipers, and panel lights. I know Jim's car is a 1A, but the I/IA handbook still shows the blower switch as part of the Off-Car-Screen heater lever. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 14:32:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924132584583 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:32:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp01e.netjets.com (smtp01e.netjets.com [12.68.88.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6E0525806FF for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:31:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from unknown (HELO cmhprdsmg21.netjets.com) ([10.70.11.54]) by dco-a08-esa01.gss-i.netjets.com with ESMTP; 07 Aug 2014 16:32:19 -0400 Received: from cmhprdexccas03.netjets.com ( [10.82.12.145]) by cmhprdsmg21.netjets.com (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 1D.66.03814.252E3E35; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 16:32:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CMHPRDEXCMBX11.netjets.com ([fe80::2c97:87c1:9ce5:7c48]) by cmhprdexccas03.netjets.com ([10.82.12.145]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 16:32:18 -0400 From: Scott Hutchinson To: Tom Witt Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Toggle switches - on or off Thread-Index: AQHPskbKj5GWMF75v0C+LUHxhH8NDJvFvF+AgAAd9QA= Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 20:32:18 +0000 References: <1407419111.99687.YahooMailNeo@web162706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4D077FFCF45B46C2AEA4BC35ADE77C8F@user1PC> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US Content-ID: <3F298AA87883814F9B290192D802546D@netjets.com> Y9fvGeweP/6vZQtgiuKySUnNySxLLdK3S+DK+HlpB2vBJM6K1c0/mRoYT7F3MXJySAiYSDQ9 WcMEYYtJXLi3nq2LkYtDSGAfo8TVqRuZIJxtjBKXnu9iBKliE9CVmLnjOFCCg0NEQFViZVMF SJhZwFhi/s1nrCC2sIChxLd139hAbBEBI4kZZ54zQthWEod3XAKLswioSKx83ge2mFfATqLt 0lOwXiGBUomv/5+B1XMKmEs0nesBO5QR6LjvpyAOZRYQl7j1ZD7U0QISS/acZ4awRSVePv7H ClGjI7Fg9yc2CNtKYveW68wQtrbEsoWvmSH2CkqcnPmEZQKj2CwkY2chaZ+FpH0WkvZZSNoX MLKuYhRPzs0oKEopzk03MtTLSy3JSi0p1kvOz93ECIorN27THYwv3tseYhTgYFTi4RXofhws xJpYVlyZe4hRgoNZSYRX7yxQiDclsbIqtSg/vqg0J7X4EKM0B4uSOO+yFKCUQHpiSWp2ampB ahFMlomDU6qBsfb2d6PaQtsfp+Y/WWBmfFHmuK+B/c97JR/OGmS93b+noKnr+HF3O5aP8xRb rtZFGkSkihy/xPsk87eKd5v0ydeTRFRsVwgJ/ze99Ijxu+q2CCGuvCXnij9583r8uqsgtTPR 3PfU+eSQa3I9KmFPmF5xagbZzlMN/n7VQeicxZfoox+a3nquVGIpzkg01GIuKk4EAEfuLQun AgAA Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Toggle switches - on or off Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net In British aircraft 'down' is 'on.' Sent from somewhere. > On Aug 7, 2014, at 2:41 PM, "Tom Witt" wrote: > > Apparently someone at Rootes had Vertical Dyslexia. Or..., they had the ability to walk on the ceiling. > > -----Original Message----- From: snakebit289 > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 6:45 AM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Toggle switches - on or off > > I looked in my Tiger II owners handbook, and the separate toggle switch for the blower is turned off in the furthest 'up' position. > > ' Up' for off is also the position for the lights, wipers, and panel lights. I know Jim's car is a 1A, but the I/IA handbook still shows the blower switch as part of the Off-Car-Screen heater lever. > > Rande Bellman > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/shutchin@netjets.com > > *** *** *** This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 7 14:46:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77564258459C for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:46:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yh0-f50.google.com (mail-yh0-f50.google.com [209.85.213.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD0525804C0 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 14:46:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-yh0-f50.google.com with SMTP id v1so3434635yhn.9 for ; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 13:46:40 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=EUkvO6TnJHhN8+0oqa6ZE8GHVpFseHpTE3odlAZnqTQ=; b=VGp+IdxEm04agyuC2NHGenRnaixC6wR1EZEmQTjk5OjhaaIKoHTkptIEF4PN2jaUD+ CbjhESeohq3LggmioXGcJKjACgdROoDD7oRVSyRGi+a6X6CrSsXhMloT0nQWHvy7ra+Y hcZG/DvppHN9pUo7tFTbQcMrmAYeBMgxXJnIRUYo2WtCGW0iOoUg3kpSqX0+GJD2OS86 ak1oNEPUsXVbJ9I7C/sn6BsaoQ+AH7UXtpI85zsbzeviI1TYi5TvYHgsaeg/774fGDVM 1mqwCJWt+5MiqEuy3ixDzuMFfR+vSnz52Y98aNzG4mcXkzC9XvUWs9854r5n5Wx8tcRz XFyg== b10mr8393081yhg.91.1407444400287; Thu, 07 Aug 2014 13:46:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.170.145.69 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 13:46:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.170.145.69 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Aug 2014 13:46:38 -0700 (PDT) References: <1407419111.99687.YahooMailNeo@web162706.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4D077FFCF45B46C2AEA4BC35ADE77C8F@user1PC> <70D3DA17-F59F-4030-8908-519D26DE5059@netjets.com> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 16:46:38 -0400 From: "michael@michaelshortt.com" To: Scott Hutchinson Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Toggle switches - on or off Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net It depends on where you are in the world. In the US, up is ON, in the UK, up is OFF. Even this is on wiki. Michael Shortt I like Up as being OFF, easy to see in a quick glance to see what is active. Downside, if you bump something accidently, you turn it on...... On Aug 7, 2014 4:32 PM, "Scott Hutchinson" wrote: > In British aircraft 'down' is 'on.' > > Sent from somewhere. > > > On Aug 7, 2014, at 2:41 PM, "Tom Witt" wrote: > > > > Apparently someone at Rootes had Vertical Dyslexia. Or..., they had the > ability to walk on the ceiling. > > > > -----Original Message----- From: snakebit289 > > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2014 6:45 AM > > To: tigers@autox.team.net > > Subject: [Tigers] Toggle switches - on or off > > > > I looked in my Tiger II owners handbook, and the separate toggle switch > for > the blower is turned off in the furthest 'up' position. > > > > ' Up' for off is also the position for the lights, wipers, and panel > lights. > I know Jim's car is a 1A, but the I/IA handbook still shows the blower > switch > as part of the Off-Car-Screen heater lever. > > > > Rande Bellman > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/shutchin@netjets.com > > > > > > *** *** *** > This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. > Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), > you > may not use, copy or disclose to anyone the message or any information > contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, > please > advise the sender by reply e-mail and delete the message. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael@michaelshortt.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 04:31:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF722584B23 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 04:31:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEA73258080C for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 04:31:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ownerHP ([unknown] [98.117.220.143]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0N9Z00HC3H8GAN50@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 05:31:29 -0500 (CDT) From: "Clyde McLaughlin" To: Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2014 06:31:31 -0400 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac+y8oxYjYbXJTCbTrus13Tkfjb8kg== Subject: [Tigers] switches Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net It's funny that the switch topic should come up this week, just the other night after a Tiger ride, my wife asked why the swithes were as she put it, up side down, the only explanation I could come with was, it's the way the Brits did it, Ha Ha.she said if it were her car she would turn them around, but it isn't, so they will remain, up is off !! Clyde _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 06:16:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490932584B23 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 06:16:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m07.mx.aol.com (omr-m07.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6691E2584473 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 06:15:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mcc02.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mcc02.mx.aol.com [172.26.253.78]) by omr-m07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 902D9700000AE for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:16:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.3] (pool-74-104-130-39.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [74.104.130.39]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-mcc02.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id 45C8038000098; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:16:30 -0400 (EDT) From: rollright@aol.com Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 08:16:30 -0400 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1407500190; bh=YrekhLmCmUlyFNjCbFdyxkbHZJsellP+e+K2k4fkklw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=RoGR4zN1OlSYd16n9/bXSwT0cYideUOvjqwdK8fOx5Nlmb8DbbR/UmQnTe80hibh7 NhucqS8e9pNOvLPxTqh+QjsUmR+iDIAUW2XjLegHsYd1qtq7n3r1U7aJdYFzWna/kH YQJ6y/uEIdMO/qOQEmHAaik1vy5SUmr3MTUnKlqw= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afd4e53e4bf9e3bd0 Subject: [Tigers] Clyde's good Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Clyde, What state do you live in? Jim Armstrong Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 8 10:07:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D0222584DC7 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 10:07:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mx0b-00176a03.pphosted.com (mx0b-00176a03.pphosted.com [67.231.157.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD1CF258072B for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 10:06:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0048204.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0048204.ppops.net-00176a03. (8.14.7/8.14.7) with SMTP id s78G2oeX007823 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 12:07:21 -0400 Received: from alpmlip13.e2k.ad.ge.com (n165-156-000-000.static.ge.com [165.156.5.1] (may be forged)) by m0048204.ppops.net-00176a03. with ESMTP id 1nmx5rh382-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 08 Aug 2014 12:07:21 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO ALPMBHT02.e2k.ad.ge.com) ([3.159.19.195]) by alpmlip13.e2k.ad.ge.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 08 Aug 2014 12:04:08 -0400 Received: from CINURAPD04.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.212.112) by ALPMBHT02.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.19.195) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.195.1; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 12:07:02 -0400 Received: from CINURCNA16.e2k.ad.ge.com ([169.254.4.42]) by CINURAPD04.e2k.ad.ge.com ([169.254.10.53]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Fri, 8 Aug 2014 12:07:01 -0400 From: "Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light)" To: "'Tiger List'" Thread-Topic: OEM-Style Harmonic Balancer Thread-Index: Ac+zE4PFso+GAZlqToylYX0n+pssAg== Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 16:07:01 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [3.159.212.186] engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.27,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-08-08_04:2014-08-08,2014-08-08,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1408080191 Subject: [Tigers] OEM-Style Harmonic Balancer Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Some time back someone asked about a good OEM-style harmonic balancer for a breathed-on 260/289. The Aussie Powerbond brand by Dayco makes a street balancer - PB1008-ST - that fits the timing cover (some balancers interfere with the casting), is good for 6500 RPM and is about $175. It is not SFI approved, but they do offer one. I made the mistake of using a new NAPA no-name brand one on a mild 289 and it de-bonded, separated, fragmented and took out the timing cover, fan, shroud and Griffin radiator. That was after 8000 miles. I've used Powerbond on several mild street motors without issue since then. http://www.daycoproducts.com/powerbond%E2%84%A2-by-dayco-street-performance-h armonic-balancer Found it at O'Reilly's. http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/PPI3/PB1008ST/02316.oap?year=1968&ma ke=Ford&model=Mustang&vi=1132322&ck=Search_02316_1132322_-1&pt=02316&ppt=C033 2 They also make a good OEM-style for stock motors - PB1008N - that is only about $75. http://www.amazon.com/1963-1968-Powerbond-balancer-damper-PB1008N/dp/B001QL2A SW/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1407509505&sr=8-2&keywords=pb1008n Bugz _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 9 08:35:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8CE2584F89 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 08:35:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d07.mx.aol.com (omr-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF51E258054B for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 08:29:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aam02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aam02.mx.aol.com [172.27.19.148]) by omr-d07.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B9F8B700000A0 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 10:30:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mla002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mla002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.186.80]) by mtaomg-aam02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 74B7F38000082 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 10:30:11 -0400 (EDT) From: CoolVT@aol.com Full-name: CoolVT Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 10:30:11 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1407594611; bh=5GRt4qetOJV/loeayvv0ve5CDtcoHfESIpZnKSkn+mA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kFHA4BAJLD33nShUtkco04j71uOUA7QplzxN52Dbm4CFeHhbwja57V/jA4sqEXlQj A3YbrjbYRmvI9lidngdbigrM7U+QKWjDrGW/qG8I5rwt46dcrQZS+NWxxIZE+Etj+K EfLQLAcrd90CnziPC8KGehHVjGoi8RgRolGA0uME= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b139453e630734180 Subject: [Tigers] Opinion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Let's say you haven't done any serious maintenance on your car for 3-4 years other than changing fluids, checking tire pressure, etc. You get a chance to get your car on a lift for an hour. What would you spend your time doing under the car? In other words what do you think is often neglected although fairly simple? Mark _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 9 08:54:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F3852584FF7 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 08:54:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mf3.dido.com (mf3zd.socket.net [216.106.85.253]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBEF62584FB7 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 08:54:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from RedBudAdminPC (unknown [199.187.162.108]) by mf3.dido.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B99340B66; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:55:24 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jim McLaughlin" To: , References: Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:55:37 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac+z30VfGgDT3a53Tm+Oi5dFDKbBQAAAHTsQ Subject: Re: [Tigers] Opinion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mark, First I would plan my hour and have a list. Always perform a visual inspection since finding a surprise could change any of the best laid plans. Bring help, at least one other person familiar with the car. 1. During the visual consider taking pictures and notes while prioritizing any leaks, damage or surprises. If you have grease fittings, grease them. Have tools and supplies on list ready to go, but do not limit to these, bring extra. 2. Check the list regularly and cross off completed items. 3. Driveshaft needs a good visual with hands on, is anything loose. 4. Exhaust hangers and system any leaks or broken, these could be repaired later. 5. Interferences with shift linkage and other moving part clearances. 6. Change trans fluid, maybe the rear end although this can be done later 7. Check rear main and front seals 8. Check brake lines and wheel cylinders or calipers for rubbing and or leaks. 9. Check frame for rust starting (again) and/or damage clean out with a vacuum places on the frame where road junk could accumulate and absorb water and stay wet. 10. Clean the bottom of the car with a good cleaner and touch up spots with paint, rust encap or undercoating, or whatever you use. 11. Go back and review list, pictures taken, and if needed plan next attack! Feel free to add or subtract everyone... Jim McLaughlin -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of CoolVT@aol.com Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 9:30 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Opinion Let's say you haven't done any serious maintenance on your car for 3-4 years other than changing fluids, checking tire pressure, etc. You get a chance to get your car on a lift for an hour. What would you spend your time doing under the car? In other words what do you think is often neglected although fairly simple? Mark _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimmc13@socket.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 9 09:20:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D54B258500C for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:20:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-35.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EA60258067D for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:19:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta001.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s79FG8uP011584; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 08:20:05 -0700 Received: by sj1-dm103.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a206) id sj1-dm103.53e134f7.3b47d; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 08:20:03 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.146.145]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:19:59 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Jim McLaughlin'" , , Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 11:19:53 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+z30VfGgDT3a53Tm+Oi5dFDKbBQAAAHTsQAAEPrSA= engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.27,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-08-09_01:2014-08-08,2014-08-09,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1408090202 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Opinion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mark Jim covered that very well. Pictures, a work list and notes are an excellent idea. I would also include: Front suspension and steering inspection Rear suspension - check rear spring perches for any cracks in the body sheet metal. Inspect and bleed clutch slave cylinder. Inspect ground cable from body to engine - look for frayed cable and poor connection Inspect speedo outer cable for wear Inspect park brake system Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim McLaughlin Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 10:56 AM To: CoolVT@aol.com; tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Opinion Mark, First I would plan my hour and have a list. Always perform a visual inspection since finding a surprise could change any of the best laid plans. Bring help, at least one other person familiar with the car. 1. During the visual consider taking pictures and notes while prioritizing any leaks, damage or surprises. If you have grease fittings, grease them. Have tools and supplies on list ready to go, but do not limit to these, bring extra. 2. Check the list regularly and cross off completed items. 3. Driveshaft needs a good visual with hands on, is anything loose. 4. Exhaust hangers and system any leaks or broken, these could be repaired later. 5. Interferences with shift linkage and other moving part clearances. 6. Change trans fluid, maybe the rear end although this can be done later 7. Check rear main and front seals 8. Check brake lines and wheel cylinders or calipers for rubbing and or leaks. 9. Check frame for rust starting (again) and/or damage clean out with a vacuum places on the frame where road junk could accumulate and absorb water and stay wet. 10. Clean the bottom of the car with a good cleaner and touch up spots with paint, rust encap or undercoating, or whatever you use. 11. Go back and review list, pictures taken, and if needed plan next attack! Feel free to add or subtract everyone... Jim McLaughlin -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of CoolVT@aol.com Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 9:30 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Opinion Let's say you haven't done any serious maintenance on your car for 3-4 years other than changing fluids, checking tire pressure, etc. You get a chance to get your car on a lift for an hour. What would you spend your time doing under the car? In other words what do you think is often neglected although fairly simple? Mark _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimmc13@socket.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 9 09:51:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CA02584FE8 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:51:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yk0-f179.google.com (mail-yk0-f179.google.com [209.85.160.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D152580775 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:42:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-yk0-f179.google.com with SMTP id 142so4699744ykq.24 for ; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 08:43:10 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2m2D+audPYABvsxe8whoTWUnunlEu7u9yhp5kQl1XY0=; b=Wwn+Z5t319QjQMwkORmapFgQQJtvuLpplENxmDltR795NeClvRgkues2gxFaDHrrnF C8wEEbYSoZ4BcNyXdD+h385UMU7PHoq0DT2NS5GrRTWIAwSV7GQpweFWu7aeh2lK12KA PV9ECyRMGWupA5xsdXEu5y8tjVbU4q5Mkf2OJIUGfB7qF3/eWePPPzR7HPCsAFRax9Mh kRZQnk+as+4vTFkPi1HlVHOys8GhD9Xd1kDLSn0Y0VJJbH2LAKKKG5lNuWgW3D0B+eP6 Mmc01j7v+szr4XyRLe154t4JFSOnsWfX4lmNQE5JFlHRzpJG72IauS/SiWBf+w1fqYmk hZFA== z47mr698871yhj.199.1407598990429; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 08:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.170.111.194 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 08:43:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.170.111.194 with HTTP; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 08:43:10 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 11:43:10 -0400 From: "michael@michaelshortt.com" To: CoolVT@aol.com Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Opinion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net ZF fluid change Check exhaust system fastners Inspect hoses belts Look for leaks Lube everything I could Michael Shortt On Aug 9, 2014 10:35 AM, wrote: > Let's say you haven't done any serious maintenance on your car for 3-4 > years other than changing fluids, checking tire pressure, etc. You get a > chance to get your car on a lift for an hour. What would you spend your > time > doing under the car? In other words what do you think is often neglected > although fairly simple? > Mark > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael@michaelshortt.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 9 16:40:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 078C72585003 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:40:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f180.google.com (mail-ie0-f180.google.com [209.85.223.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B749025806B9 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 16:35:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f180.google.com with SMTP id at20so7831420iec.25 for ; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:35:45 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:thread-index :content-language; bh=8ffqaRyuwkufZKoe5h+UQUXF6UwUVwQEa0EX7Jxh4S4=; b=clZvSzXtzz0E7Ky4QNHhN0vEvHldIIkX930ykbwSTUtWs4DCWy4+jAp0TEQ4TxphcN r1ayZdZ+0R699DQHe/vk/pf/1qenzJU9xmf2ttWOjOUWgERr2NYZzWVFbuViuyIsQgTj 5Z59ANZOebi7xFdhbhgl2xb5c/wm07pW3x7TU6Ay3y3J0uUgjWEd8HKa0m5zqlqt0RNy 1KzDLVCSfFJYddlTom4/sxXR6Q2Q0FvAFh1+g+lYcQTL4iwUd65E+yIFUnoFJZz7Nz67 9q0NbnTwEM1XEMpKPGx4y46PX+OMnCcPLMUiCBUMxvhCHfBkap/hanY1JcOSVcrC7wQj 1mtQ== n16mr16704731igi.15.1407623745865; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:35:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from BubbaPC (adsl-108-89-244-166.dsl.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net. [108.89.244.166]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ki9sm27223492igb.3.2014.08.09.15.35.44 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 09 Aug 2014 15:35:45 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mark Rense" To: , References: <34AA329B91DC4F34AD84E7AFD04EFF5A@RedBudAdminPC> Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 18:35:53 -0400 Thread-Index: AQHYUjrf0kq7FP5LgoBVgRdMKwBvNwFfxCYfm6yYiFA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Tigers] Opinion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Great suggestions all around. I would also recommend looking at your motor mounts, they tend to delaminate over time, and if you are running a tweaked motor there is a strong chance of the left one being completely separated. Look for any weeping from front/rear main seals and oil pan, the oil filter adapter and the clutch slave cylinder. This is a good opportunity to grab a couple wrenches and snug up any loose bolts. Also, undo your engine-to-frame ground strap, clean the ends, and reattach. Same for fuel pump ground. Bugz -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of CoolVT@aol.com Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2014 9:30 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Opinion Let's say you haven't done any serious maintenance on your car for 3-4 years other than changing fluids, checking tire pressure, etc. You get a chance to get your car on a lift for an hour. What would you spend your time doing under the car? In other words what do you think is often neglected although fairly simple? Mark _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 9 17:10:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49056258078C for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 17:10:53 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173001pub.verizon.net (vms173001pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EB7925806B9 for ; Sat, 9 Aug 2014 17:08:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from user1PC ([unknown] [108.47.32.37]) by vms173001.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0NA200IBUAYPIE30@vms173001.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Sat, 09 Aug 2014 18:08:50 -0500 (CDT) From: "Tom Witt" To: References: <34AA329B91DC4F34AD84E7AFD04EFF5A@RedBudAdminPC> <003c01cfb422$480ddeb0$d8299c10$@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:08:45 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Opinion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I'd say the most important thing is a pre-check for things that can be done with the car on the lift. That way you are prepared (items purchased, wrenches handy) and can tackle what can be done in that limited hour (which I'm sure will fly by). One other area I don't recall being mentioned is the Panhard rod. Especially if you have an older Tiger. My mount was completely torn off the frame rail (not by me). _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 10:08:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C413258467A for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:08:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from d.mail.sonic.net (d.mail.sonic.net [64.142.111.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA270258051C for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 10:08:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.65] (99-104-122-164.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net [99.104.122.164]) (authenticated bits=0) by d.mail.sonic.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s7AG8sWq017095 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:08:55 -0700 From: John Stithem Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 09:08:53 -0700 References: To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 188 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net > Check every nut and bolt you can get your fingers and torque wrench on. John > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2014 10:30:11 -0400 (EDT) > From: CoolVT@aol.com > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Opinion > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Let's say you haven't done any serious maintenance on your car for 3-4 > years other than changing fluids, checking tire pressure, etc. You get a > chance to get your car on a lift for an hour. What would you spend your time > doing under the car? In other words what do you think is often neglected > although fairly simple? > Mark _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 18:05:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A61E258485B for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 18:05:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42CA42580458 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 18:03:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.101.128] by nm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2014 00:03:36 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.245] by tm16.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2014 00:03:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1059.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2014 00:03:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 87457 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Aug 2014 00:03:35 -0000 s=s1024; t=1407715415; bh=JtSA0kRt54j7L9dBtFDufh4OyN25+imiTptPYUYTaek=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=H8I6WAXiLZd9biiVs8AuCX7OzPvkAmvwbRqt+aX8gML1FZ/7I/Bbq8ounH6IP6EDYZALpVr2wmSwjtxTxHIM/xhz6Hj5aJe2/SenlpqRM1WrG0GIdK6G+86UVffOCIhPEomIXNwl8Pz3ko4hTQ7P7XboKb1v1Jqsvr1d0FrY86g= U9vRAFQJXOLdFP88q1npJwOb5ApB1JFJ0pGEOgUjlbjl30iIsvDoDku3SlWK YNfNoofan6Cx5.dJRQ5eTivSENua3Cgx.YrTCdeo5SZ_RpSniIPjaM7fjfQ6 XUkCUGDyQ5SzeijJpW2zcuLuc85ozHY1zZgo8P9Cpm60ybJ_dLwwJyyhex7i rebaTq8G5NKf.uwfn2ITZTRLpoQj119Wy1xbrhKypeymgGtB.j5xHYMnhqG8 wsVOjTl465H1luuq.4a1LlPaOK_LbbLtHB8kIrKtNGLH8P9CscNuwvW6kcwV FLivp6AVgye5H9PNFNai3IRgs7_OaGl880ilXpI0ZyePmccnYYyK6kq46BJu RoUEkYPHZAbXU4SWwE_LggMsEH38aQbNKn3g9fvzUKb0LqSqrBhLVHHX2GOq mkJmP1WvIRS4hQd62nUiDDVVo._ICq0of0NzZMe6nvq5rT0omzN5kc6k42.5 UCx_HZ3iFwAwcBSKssPzz3lkw_4ZorfzNEJ5_VRc92.mxH6ZHBXc- Received: from [70.209.196.32] by web121102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:03:35 PDT QWxsLMKgIArCoApUaGUgQk9OIChwIDE2Mykgc3RhdGVzwqAiVGhlIGZldyAoIDE1KSB0cnVlIEdUIFRpZ2VycywgYWxsIG9mIHdoaWNoIHdlcmUgYnVpbHQgZHVyaW5nIHRoaXMgZmlyc3QgZ3JvdXAgb2YgSURzLApoYWQgd29vZGVuIGRhc2hib2FyZHMsIGZ1bGwgaW5zdHJ1bWVudGF0aW9uLCBoYXJkIHRvcHMsIGV4cGFuZGVkIHJlYXIgcGFzc2VuZ2VyIGFyZWFzCihkdWUgdG8gdGhlIGVsaW1pbmF0aW9uIG9mIHNvZnQgdG9wIGhhcmR3YXJlKSwgR1QgZG9vciBlbGVtZW50cyBhbmQgY2FycmllZCBhbiBhZGQBMAEBAQE- Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:03:35 -0700 From: Brian Glenn To: Tiger Forum Subject: [Tigers] GT Tiger "Interior Roof Lamp" and "Courtesy Light Switch " Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net All, The BON (p 163) states "The few ( 15) true GT Tigers, all of which were built during this first group of IDs, had wooden dashboards, full instrumentation, hard tops, expanded rear passenger areas (due to the elimination of soft top hardware), GT door elements and carried an additional courtesy light, attached with the inside rear view mirror mounting screws. Operation was by both a built in hand control and very clever automatic door hinge screw switches." I am looking for information on these "additional courtesy light" and "door hinge screw switches". I have found both in the Alpine/Tiger parts list (Interior Roof Lamp - 1217862 and Courtesy Light Switch - P.45208, respectively), but looking for where I might find these obscure parts. I've seen the door switches occasionally on ebay (years ago), but never the courtesy light. Both the light and the switch were used on Alpine GTs and Series IV and V soft top automatics from B94100487. Was it used on another Rootes product or (assuming it was Lucas) on another make or model? Are there replicas available? Thanks in advance, Brian Brian Glenn P.O. Box 578 Julian, CA 92036-0578 714.345.9883 B9470208LRXFE GT B9471101LRXFE B9472615LRXFE B382000846LRXFE B382001212LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 18:21:22 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A167258472E for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 18:21:22 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-36.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CD0F2584722 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 18:21:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta002.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7B0IYc2021021; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:21:38 -0700 Received: by dm0225.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a206) id dm0225.53e13539.46823; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:21:37 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.145.176]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 00:21:31 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Brian Glenn'" , "'Tiger Forum'" Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2014 20:21:26 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+09/xPk81eN7O9Tk+jNo/NGKjgBAAAS4hg engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.27,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-08-10_03:2014-08-08,2014-08-10,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1408110003 Subject: Re: [Tigers] GT Tiger "Interior Roof Lamp" and "Courtesy Light Switch " Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Brian My guess is that these parts were used on other vehicles. P.45209 Courtesy Light Switch also has a Lucas part number listed - S34122 I would also guess that this part is unavailable - you would probably have to try to make them your self. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Glenn Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 8:04 PM To: Tiger Forum Subject: [Tigers] GT Tiger "Interior Roof Lamp" and "Courtesy Light Switch " All, The BON (p 163) states "The few ( 15) true GT Tigers, all of which were built during this first group of IDs, had wooden dashboards, full instrumentation, hard tops, expanded rear passenger areas (due to the elimination of soft top hardware), GT door elements and carried an additional courtesy light, attached with the inside rear view mirror mounting screws. Operation was by both a built in hand control and very clever automatic door hinge screw switches." I am looking for information on these "additional courtesy light" and "door hinge screw switches". I have found both in the Alpine/Tiger parts list (Interior Roof Lamp - 1217862 and Courtesy Light Switch - P.45208, respectively), but looking for where I might find these obscure parts. I've seen the door switches occasionally on ebay (years ago), but never the courtesy light. Both the light and the switch were used on Alpine GTs and Series IV and V soft top automatics from B94100487. Was it used on another Rootes product or (assuming it was Lucas) on another make or model? Are there replicas available? Thanks in advance, Brian Brian Glenn P.O. Box 578 Julian, CA 92036-0578 714.345.9883 B9470208LRXFE GT B9471101LRXFE B9472615LRXFE B382000846LRXFE B382001212LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 10 18:52:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B77F25848B9 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 18:52:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f41.google.com (mail-oi0-f41.google.com [209.85.218.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93F6258488B for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 18:52:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f41.google.com with SMTP id a141so5116330oig.14 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:53:23 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=5tOZXuNKSck5NU6AkxnIswVl7DsGpLOwvHluKHcaM1I=; b=wmk5yO5EECCJK+to0NHLE4Re6RybKyqO4F5iA6xLluChq5r+OQTnlOiHJgsoE/kqpv LSvyOK2i2E8VC4WvyxzxrENw+m4jezbiKa7EOy3xqVTY5kNln21zY6fA/iGwY5RQOVVF DZNlADB0QcKV3iHC/M7o1tLMRojsHu8YcpDV+iNy6oIbbcALQl+MGLRNhOxHAxBv7m91 CvM3I6yukP7csVfmQhQ2KGusOq08T1u/fH22BOPC90Bq6q/dQiCG/VP132312lpXSZqk DsP99hzQ0Nrhf+VIo5kkA5gJSm9xobZyBwdbsKLDj10lnOKKVYZjo08rUthK3nnHVeh0 Fhug== ru10mr5378056obc.77.1407718403713; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.228.196 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Aug 2014 17:53:23 -0700 (PDT) References: <1407715415.48404.YahooMailNeo@web121102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 08:53:23 +0800 From: michael king To: Ron Fraser Cc: Tiger Forum Subject: Re: [Tigers] GT Tiger "Interior Roof Lamp" and "Courtesy Light Switch " Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Brian, The courtesy light was used on the S3-V alpine GT's. It is not that hard to find, it was made by sparto IIRC. it has a black base and a clear lens. there are 2 types.. one with a sliding switch that goes left to right to turn it on, the other no switch and just operated via the hinge switches. I have a couple of each types. The light lenses are also available NOS without to much effort. these parts are easier to get in the Uk due to high percentage of GT's and rusted away cars! Drop me a line if you need more assistance. On 11 August 2014 08:21, Ron Fraser wrote: > Brian > My guess is that these parts were used on other vehicles. > > P.45209 Courtesy Light Switch also has a Lucas part number listed - S34122 > > I would also guess that this part is unavailable - you would probably have > to try to make them your self. > > Ron Fraser > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian > Glenn > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2014 8:04 PM > To: Tiger Forum > Subject: [Tigers] GT Tiger "Interior Roof Lamp" and "Courtesy Light Switch > " > > > All, > > The BON (p 163) states "The few ( 15) true GT Tigers, all of which were > built during this first group of IDs, had wooden dashboards, full > instrumentation, hard tops, expanded rear passenger areas (due to the > elimination of soft top hardware), GT door elements and carried an > additional courtesy light, attached with the inside rear view mirror > mounting screws. Operation was by both a built in hand control and very > clever automatic door hinge screw switches." > > I am looking for information on these "additional > courtesy light" and "door hinge screw switches". > I have found both in the > Alpine/Tiger parts list (Interior Roof Lamp - 1217862 and Courtesy Light > Switch - P.45208, respectively), but looking for where I might find these > obscure parts. I've seen the door switches occasionally on ebay (years > ago), > but never the courtesy light. > > Both the light and the switch were used on > Alpine GTs and Series IV and V soft top automatics from B94100487. > > Was it > used on another Rootes product or (assuming it was Lucas) on another make > or > model? Are there replicas available? > > Thanks in advance, > Brian > > Brian Glenn > P.O. Box 578 > Julian, CA 92036-0578 > 714.345.9883 > > B9470208LRXFE GT > B9471101LRXFE > B9472615LRXFE > B382000846LRXFE > B382001212LRXFE > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 11:32:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C602258093F for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 11:32:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm34.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm34.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.27]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2344425808F5 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 11:31:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm34.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2014 17:32:25 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.115] by nm34.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2014 17:29:45 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.170] by tm106.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2014 17:29:45 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.223] by tm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2014 17:29:45 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1032.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2014 17:29:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 26552 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Aug 2014 17:29:45 -0000 s=s1024; t=1407778185; bh=6auBr5YIWsyIN59DGl/ek/R5U1PAu0lFLe67UxJ4bns=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=R9OfXodmcm9Kb7RHDocXw7sWcO6wB1GISaxXTvZCC48JtlKzDLbjPDBjyEV1veKpGCwaPwgWKOEupc2DST00EfT58uDV17QjP7X4ib3GcaqHB4lKV70vLGuKZzzrB7J7acMYpdC7YtdKQmbkuysEybCSxeJnh7KzwJmLvhHDBDk= _wB7VEH79SqLqrE52m8ClH4J5wKy7j4c6.licJHKnwH1LNZrr8wdOhZUs42x mNrXlZTWc7F9fV7lnB5sV4Q1TXot7bbYZXWO1SQgKkNZHcczyCI.v9TFQQ8n QcMT9grePpY8BI4WoX1i_eqWkKCvP9R4Nxe00gEaLyLiHwZfwDICzEi8IRBG BINe.HcBLLgIQAt1cOvhjdXHhL0hsIzhCWT6oklXALslbsl5IWOddFN_biRd 37nNJ7VgiSU58jore2RDSgW1ZkxZQk2JldIINxlzAdRlBy7iPa1It0JpnalK i5VB3ZLpB5tGfTHtOOrIP3dHJJOZaMrgsmF3IPIQ.S7w5adtf0RTjccwXk1D G7jX1p89Yj_Zdxg8b77bLB18qfyp5u.bCZz49OcZ426cXnbNTI8UB5qexiRA xR1rHB..X45wCbCtHnbCc5BNJ2j957uEts0jOTDdtbIkrWckokcqguraOssX NKDCZOFOEg.aKxTg3SXvL8ZCmKzBF711jfn20mH5p0soIzz0Je55HBC6K_TJ XhJEVK.8eHK5m7D18_6E.n6BEhBPbbPDMvrNFXj3p Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:29:45 PDT SSd2ZSBzZWVuIGJvdGggb2Nhc3Npb25hbGx5IG9uIGVCYXksIElJUkMgdGhlIHN3aXRjaGVzIGFyZSBzZWVuIG1vcmUgb2Z0ZW4uIEkgd291bGQgcGVyaW9kaWNhbGx5IGNoZWNrIGJvdGggdGhlIFVTIGFuZCB0aGUgVUsgZUJheSBzaXRlcyAod3d3LmViYXkuY28udWspIGFuZCBqdXN0IGtlZXAgYXQgaXQsIG9yIGNvbnRhY3QgTWljaGFlbC4KClJhbmRlIEJlbGxtYW4KATABAQEB Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 10:29:45 -0700 From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tiger GT courtesy lamp and switches Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I've seen both ocassionally on eBay, IIRC the switches are seen more often. I would periodically check both the US and the UK eBay sites (www.ebay.co.uk) and just keep at it, or contact Michael. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 15:54:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C31422580A7E for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:54:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d01.mx.aol.com (omr-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.252.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF9C2580607 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:53:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aag02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aag02.mx.aol.com [172.26.126.80]) by omr-d01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0DB6470000096; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:54:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mlb005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mlb005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.186.147]) by mtaomg-aag02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A3EAD38000081; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:54:32 -0400 (EDT) From: CoolVT@aol.com Full-name: CoolVT Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 17:54:32 -0400 (EDT) To: atwittsend@verizon.net, tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1407794073; bh=Yea0TA//xsCKyEY1G0b7T5wJCM7A5F0Qnx4MBr4UyMo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mbm62dB5UHbsoBhAWLY8WGu/5k6B9nJPreLz2Ipx7/dPeaGRcztBgM0v4un0CLyOz auuYPMARbbxShaxnU7b7enVi+iCn0zNQKDfOnCtgV3N+P0Tj4a88kLjcRXejotEpGO UzaY05iudGZ2Ma6LvPnGThcgoqcN5l1KOh0y9OU0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7e5053e93b98791d Subject: Re: [Tigers] Opinion Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I asked for opinions on what to do under the car if you have an hour on a lift. It was a little misleading because I have a lift and probably get under my car more than the average person. I was curious what others would do with the hour. On my to do list is something that I tend to forget about. When under the car it's easy to look for leaks or pull a wheel to check brakes, etc What I tend to forget is the electrical connections. How many times has an owner written with a non-starting problem and it turns out to be back connections. I am as guilty as the next person. So, my next time on the lift, in addition to checking the usual things I plan to disconnect the battery, polish both battery connections, battery ground strap, ground strap engine to chassis, alternator to solenoid, battery positive to solenoid, solenoid to starter, etc. Mark L _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 11 16:24:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2302584777 for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 16:24:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm13-vm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm13-vm10.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.155]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FD62580A0F for ; Mon, 11 Aug 2014 16:24:21 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1407795896; bh=ghO5EBf93u2NEjmnkbVJQK1GclueuCoTGLXCT9gV/X0=; b=Sya99JkkLpgiTwikTuMu8M9qatZOUaWB/Y+s5WTsoUl3I6CJCbTknH+H3Oa5TMROgsYZlRqADr842HRsiyzo9yKoLEFEMr9GHvISe+Zy4aUtYOwjzYi1IXlqw1uKf9Dy7KxY9JE86ZRZTKtbAISDM/Aj13MAugW5kR2lzn7f32aTMLZ9yoayw/vAbQiKHT7nBZ6egooy6xXTQteySluwGMe6AoDmBbtgsutvNaLOgREpswNq2w/DQ42V6d62Cv6kEemZnv/kIuOh9Mld1fi9ZXYzt8mW4ZYprzCdatZvitoP/Ya8NddAW1ZVdg/k2JDBk7WnA2y7AzvibX8LkYhKQQ== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=pacbell.net; b=Pd6Gssgr67CsEQEJWlNd7iEIBVHmVmPDp+3K8IKarhPKW/T1tKgxXn238pUM04MsDKU7zV3qFBpFStwSYrrT9Y/2Tqq8e7uCcEI283mxDNXlhlqtpMZfnEOnZHDitAEuh5/QsyvEojtr1BAv07rJeH1SkuFB3NkuGHTt8FqMkFGn5mamWWRvuOD96jc3mQCTDVkvPoJHHSd2LJEZaEe7dRz2PafLLQ8Yd/t8y2U9cmbjSGR0f/gD001O5T7SUWBr4CIHPvvhsO2pd6+ddzR4RuM9ZWcsHvfFIZt7CahkkW3+ujXNClqu550bgdC8L5j5ozENYYHVazAQoQs+yA/l3A==; Received: from [98.137.12.174] by nm13.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2014 22:24:56 -0000 Received: from [98.136.164.68] by tm13.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2014 22:24:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp230.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Aug 2014 22:24:56 -0000 s=s1024; t=1407795896; bh=ghO5EBf93u2NEjmnkbVJQK1GclueuCoTGLXCT9gV/X0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=zyPGJfYTZtLvNlPfAhfp2SvXZ7up79q0rnwEUm4cy/jdJPDzPHRBpBOCoxh9LuId5unghKd24DbVexSM3Bwwh5K8ec6ZFayA2pIatKQDbqQCF42R96BJIPYEe3Cw69eKAD6vXzL141JV6hmKMTJtH36PDRYOpJd9sE/yrSxkWBY= A02.Wl.nsmT9n0JBLtOGtkF9ZROMQzOqct8_qHAVr4DDwobBbGJ2sgKVnGd1 om6966RMp0pmABNTniL10FGLU0bZgjIxSPhwqrVfOVWIE1mlg5VoKlLp6pjz hOTNWAoVNY90nNp7GCTOsw0Gl_ZcdyMjyQIGZ_2Zay1mlehDBWEEPlHbBaey dGktRNRcSwzJPIwywRhG5Rzh4b.qb.1UUIrlFUb.KNF_.OV7c_ZzRHcLXttj ccxM5NF9Fe5aqdC9U.zB1hZfM3OZH7wFjTn19IN5hXbPuC0TLeKvDPnDBMqb OHqP1kTdQv2EGmggGCNPjrzCEsEPwD3e1qDRy4mUzyY27AiUT5AZ.aU6nqof 0dBLhL6xXxw22_BkryqJDO71E2RssDIuAPP84wmhk5LstYblK28GEkKEo5mc v5gX2opF5FVNkh03ZaeR1mLQYThFJz_mR9ds9fB3q2p3ipPgl6FrRZKWFkep E50yDWqhze.wgZuGDRgsZXEMHL2TNCRN6LtedK.H2rYqjlpRzYHMyos_2uZ6 7bUuh48tPUXgD8HspnN1WscAhJSeBvNyCukJ4gIUbTbuEEkjJ5FZjL1bgost 1ait_Uzeq36GXcEbgyyFJVHYQRA5RsRuvxnkOJkw- Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2014 15:24:51 -0700 From: Sandy User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Updated Website - New Reference Stuff Not Tiger Specific Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Not sure if this is useful to anyone, but I have been working on the website a bit and added a bunch of stuff for calculating and measuring the wheel bolt circle for various counts of lugs as well as a pocket ruler print out for those swap meet days when looking for rims. This allows calculation of most any number of lugs by measuring adjacent lug distance. http://www.gtsparkplugs.com/Bolt-Circle-Calculator.html This is just a pictorial version of how to do it with a ruler and without a calculator, does even number of lugs, and another page to do the measure for 5 bolt. http://www.gtsparkplugs.com/measure-wheel-bolt-patterns.html I also added a couple of download links for the You Print It version the bolt pattern guide that will download a PDF file for 1:1 printing if anyone needs that sort of stuff. Errors report or feedback appreciated! Thanks Sandy _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 14 08:55:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778AC2584BA9 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 08:55:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm29-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm29-vm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF10258054B for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 08:55:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm29.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Aug 2014 14:56:28 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.230] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Aug 2014 14:56:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1039.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Aug 2014 14:56:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 86983 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Aug 2014 14:56:28 -0000 s=s1024; t=1408028188; bh=h1LSbHB3yrLj8ZVJGYZpEY0OgdG1g4BB5Mg3NTpnBGE=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=buwjtVQoJ1KJpoPH9XLws+xeqTkBF1a4sOEv4I0CW2CeKVbqW8rG9mV6M/6nTWFKpbeRwn5c207nPC+1+zRzYBk60avUkMzhxvuJ2N/egtOYoCWrRBemKocYaBNb/QKXUeLNq8/jf5Zamsojo6xOPdM0XN7DjP4DX+IjA63gcdc= BhXhGvjgC.P_vkoX8IO0G7Gi1Z5eTAS7KwbNla_rUVc0V1DBXUuDMfHLOQu7 NHHvxK511IYjawjfZ3buCWSM1Ke.IW0L54pJVtzCmwfnwNA56vXs7hU.1rbk Yhbm.WOMOD6EShVilU1LH_pse6l9SHNyp90gBjMkkvODkx.l3DFO0IXoyuze dtBjmwFedwKPA_sZBHgNJyim2qKqXFkadlXR1d.NKz8ZURA9Mz6Nnvgev3km _Dcr0KCSQ7hx6Ckalu1IOv_gyLwA559dW4Khp3EQQ1qwrHMKOU7qNGaJaiiZ lpmPY8_NUi5c7AN41NsaGJVaHyTY3lqfsphUHCczhGM50b9L5M1C6_yK9HJj r7cGJyCufRZZ8ZXPmuV.alQiZG9UQZKHYDR9WGW.qMNks.nIQ7zP.dcnpRx7 7qo0kMRtacoRSNlqYBCybMlSQmNzTqbcDTfFsYAhQ0du6SEK4m9VVY7EWe6u koGfE9UKlL_MmuFrtUTrjkVtoGiZGJ.F7 Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:56:28 PDT Tm90IG15IHRyYW5zYWN0aW9uLCBidXQgYSBmYWlybHkgbmljZS1sb29raW5nIEFscGluZSBWIGluIE9yY2hpZCBHcmVlbiBmb3Igc2FsZSBpbiB0aGUgQ2hpY2FnbyBhcmVhIGZvciAkMTcsNDAwIGluY2x1ZGluZyBoYXJkdG9wLgoKSnVzdMKgIHNlYXJjaCBmb3IgT3RoZXIgTWFrZXMgQWxwaW5lLiBBZCBpbmNsdWRlcyBhIHZpZGVvIG9mIGEgc2hvcnQgZHJpdmUgYXJvdW5kIHRoZSBjaXR5LiBTb21lb25lIHNhdmUgbWUgZnJvbSBteXNlbGYgYmVmb3JlIEkgY2FsbCBTb3V0aHdlc3QuCgpSYW5kZSBCZWxsbWEBMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 07:56:28 -0700 From: snakebit289 To: "alpines@autox.team.net" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Nice Alpine on eBay US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Not my transaction, but a fairly nice-looking Alpine V in Orchid Green for sale in the Chicago area for $17,400 including hardtop. Just search for Other Makes Alpine. Ad includes a video of a short drive around the city. Someone save me from myself before I call Southwest. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 11:20:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDE5325844CF for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:20:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from txasav-vm07.suddenlink.net (txasav-vm07.suddenlink.net [208.180.40.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8443A25807C1 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:19:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Roscrea ([74.196.108.150]) by txasav-vm07.suddenlink.net (InterMail vM.8.04.01.08 201-2343-100-153-20121108) with ESMTP id <20140817172018.NSCY23417.txasav-vm07.suddenlink.net@Roscrea> for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:20:18 -0500 From: "Jerry Mo Christopherson" To: "Tiger Autox" Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:18:54 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac+6P1IdApt8cRgdQdilpVQyKP5oRA== Content-Language: en-us a=xzW3HwPJiLYA:10 a=VPHkNMUpP2kA:10 a=8LaAqv5HAAAA:8 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=Zr7miEi8wWIA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=4lmuwUa2WeVmF65qdAwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=f2UmdRi60kQA:10 a=IDDecZ6K0BsA:10 a=G3OJ5Ob-9qkA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=0mOexdjHp8wd34JnK3UA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 Subject: [Tigers] BIG BUCKS for a tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Well, as I said a few weeks ago my friend was going to sell his 67 MKII at the RA Monterey auctions. He said he was going to try and get the highest price for a Tiger. How does $231,000 sound?? I couldn't believe his email he just sent me. I feel very privileged now that I got to drive it onetime, HA! Jerry Christopherson 9473187 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 12:16:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C12B25844D7 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:16:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.56]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B402C25844B6 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:15:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.180] by nm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2014 18:16:11 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.175] by tm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2014 18:16:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1031.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Aug 2014 18:16:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 40078 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Aug 2014 18:16:11 -0000 s=s1024; t=1408299371; bh=wESNIHu/2BlFg7pKyABW9eXgzXdCYHURQTORJ5sorcQ=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=liIUmgVlBXbq65nEBGGL0u7c6lVW/h7+uVo2s/JCGaQeQaDfxQalrwkS7wczwt6LKuEsJTN/NMq0XYSLKtXCF5NacgIYnIqjiYlWWBjzS0BCATqfLAQ28gCg6NO74i8EjYdcaaURmsiLjpCIuu3PhZOjRF6OKKBsaQFru7m9Z8c= fLSTyW7sgclHsiakJPUpCm0p.wiUix4M9gL6k3NGmnAcQShFjf0hvp118PeM qNMcSY1P7rcOFaPqQt9KsjW7E48xwaD.5PT_hIHNJhY9IFP.9q1iaTSPk.lV dXSXd_K8.3qjC8E183IS5L_fct3v9GavQOlFrCj.ebpp8_PKnb_Yk66lzrHb cXhFMIST7StjVHudpQqF7zU.3YBsoYaYAQuhT8B8RTJ6JmrQ4CjrG92If7Rr sP07QJ_RSq1TmmigOIBdgthP0CD3pwEb6H2_RMpNEsJv5UXdOZjmjzsxsTsb r5BXUp8FW9gcJ7SywkEoFHz23tDronq32UU6ZxiB50vBGtmLl96kjFTflc2j UF54mFRqQDCU1i5wJOtgfs7.yIBZIcuA5VozCJ4wGq.iNJMYYxczI49AK1Su DvX1JK43VqnZ0AQLk99r5Qpg0wXrio5JXd_JJXAS0itIX_DQBn_gS8k3F_v3 dJwE.o9ZZETSWgze2DXSIrHn_CPHhOh2k2sQEw6GknYpRaQp3gzb6YSEi9dh YrvCgPQ8GdMsZs8NCBfLM_R9K8Wo0.9pydRfF_yT4D6pI3K6uhfEk Received: from [97.93.177.222] by web121902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:16:11 PDT SSB0aG91Z2h0IGJvdGggTUstSUlzIEAgYXVjdGlvbiBpbiBNb250ZXJleSB0aGlzIHdlZWtlbmQgaGFtbWVyZWQgQCAkMjEwaywgb3IgaXMgJDIzMWsgd2l0aCAxMCUgY29tbWlzc2lvbj8KwqAKU3RlcGhlbiBXYXlicmlnaHQKCgoKX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KIEZyb206IEplcnJ5IE1vIENocmlzdG9waGVyc29uIDxKQ01DMjAwNkBzdWRkZW5saW5rLm5ldD4KVG86IFRpZ2VyIEF1dG94IDxUSUdFUlNAQVVUT1guVEVBTS5ORVQ.IApTZW50OiBTdW5kYXksIEF1Z3VzdCAxNywgMjABMAEBAQE- References: <001201cfba3f$52412220$f6c36660$@suddenlink.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:16:11 -0700 From: Stephen Waybright To: Jerry Mo Christopherson , Tiger Autox Subject: Re: [Tigers] BIG BUCKS for a tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I thought both MK-IIs @ auction in Monterey this weekend hammered @ $210k, or is $231k with 10% commission? Stephen Waybright ________________________________ From: Jerry Mo Christopherson To: Tiger Autox Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:18 PM Subject: [Tigers] BIG BUCKS for a tiger Well, as I said a few weeks ago my friend was going to sell his 67 MKII at the RA Monterey auctions. He said he was going to try and get the highest price for a Tiger. How does $231,000 sound?? I couldn't believe his email he just sent me. I feel very privileged now that I got to drive it onetime, HA! Jerry Christopherson 9473187 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/gswaybright@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 12:24:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A5862584873 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:24:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f171.google.com (mail-pd0-f171.google.com [209.85.192.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC472584834 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:24:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f171.google.com with SMTP id z10so6132785pdj.16 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:24:47 -0700 (PDT) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=98YD29vzPwhGS+QbwMf3GlzOJHRRipf9v09s7VlBnlI=; b=Zewg0NHgo0/Hg1OWR0MK65jsi4x6iWA/XvSIMiyNpihgD4iAd5NAS9p90QpevPyj/Z 77kguKsbCbUTVJEy7Vu6QAA0LYzlkfbTRnQghW6Zd3ZDemUOO7ihd3YnnVU6Mcxbhs2T zbmopjfcmsmh+JrmIQ1fkWMmv7l25Znjyi+OOL1Q1997IYl14ugY2I+n1xEK+r4GSVNb /ikCXZqL7DtpYbu7c+ADMnXjGEqx5hTHp/L0Qzb0074UbOvpWsd1QbbccrXyA8YW482R LKAyxaeL/CY6hF8eNAN+d6q0Q85sUQVy6hOmxSXg8eRJwCxWL+1kx5AaUqnJzVWBcXhy edpA== bl11mr3760308pdb.163.1408299887608; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (135.sub-75-208-105.myvzw.com. [75.208.105.135]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id lq4sm50389361pab.48.2014.08.17.11.24.46 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:24:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay Laifman Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:24:43 -0700 References: <001201cfba3f$52412220$f6c36660$@suddenlink.net> To: "Jerry Mo Christopherson" Cc: Tiger Autox Subject: Re: [Tigers] BIG BUCKS for a tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! On Aug 17, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Jerry Mo Christopherson wrote: > Well, as I said a few weeks ago my friend was going to sell his 67 MKII at > the RA Monterey auctions. He said he was going to try and get the highest > price for a Tiger. How does $231,000 sound?? I couldn't believe his email > he just sent me. > > > > I feel very privileged now that I got to drive it onetime, HA! > > > > Jerry Christopherson > > 9473187 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 12:32:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCFF92584870 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:32:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from txofep02.suddenlink.net (txofep02.suddenlink.net [208.180.40.72]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06DA125844F8 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:31:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Roscrea ([74.196.108.150]) by txofep02.suddenlink.net (InterMail vM.8.04.01.08 201-2343-100-153-20121108) with ESMTP id <20140817183226.GRDH21350.txofep02.suddenlink.net@Roscrea>; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:32:26 -0500 From: "Jerry Mo Christopherson" To: "'Jay Laifman'" References: <001201cfba3f$52412220$f6c36660$@suddenlink.net> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 13:31:02 -0500 Thread-Index: AQIP0z/16mvlC9tqzFRU1E4ALKvDWAKrG3ULmz+SiLA= Content-Language: en-us a=tan7EGJRZaEA:10 a=xzW3HwPJiLYA:10 a=VPHkNMUpP2kA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=8LaAqv5HAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=AzH6gNIHDdYK6k7QFVoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 Cc: 'Tiger Autox' Subject: Re: [Tigers] BIG BUCKS for a tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I'm afraid I don't know much about the auction other than it was lot #159. I haven't received an answer yet from Joe to tell me the details of the sale. Jerry Christopherson 9473187 -----Original Message----- From: Jay Laifman [mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:25 PM To: Jerry Mo Christopherson Cc: Tiger Autox Subject: Re: [Tigers] BIG BUCKS for a tiger !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! On Aug 17, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Jerry Mo Christopherson wrote: > Well, as I said a few weeks ago my friend was going to sell his 67 > MKII at the RA Monterey auctions. He said he was going to try and get > the highest price for a Tiger. How does $231,000 sound?? I couldn't > believe his email he just sent me. > > > > I feel very privileged now that I got to drive it onetime, HA! > > > > Jerry Christopherson > > 9473187 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 12:36:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 204F42584866 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:36:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f181.google.com (mail-pd0-f181.google.com [209.85.192.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7D825844F8 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 12:36:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f181.google.com with SMTP id g10so5961300pdj.26 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:37:31 -0700 (PDT) h=from:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:subject:date:message-id :to:mime-version; bh=YT7EOZqPVGsKp4LWvcll0r1bF/CUYz5qUxLBXOTKlEU=; b=e59XX+fwopJM47Qr/qOCQrcFs87ALWWuk7qY4EdeY5S9tc8Wxc/7yPW2FLuQ6xbGRo DTOLFi1MSNxNp+4YpfWpqtSKS1Xgc42528zPCwnVI6Jxyu8IfYIvjlT8hV6PIaFEyt31 wxgVMnf/kUlxHjE+4QABgIfBncSsoOTedUwo23Dgaa2SN5d7J/DRsfBRVO5fYmNwUjFz XP/KD3RLmsK/XkuI2UCGIyg1YjJ2h5j/qXquHsI402qz8/4q9d4Or+CPY2uZCmWiEVq3 DgDJ4329jdKvMY4pk25NUhRLWr5nM0CpW22IQeqnEn17mjB1pzjgPvj8zE6SG7UtakVC zu9w== ij1mr13437567pbb.40.1408300651601; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 11:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.4] (74.sub-75-208-89.myvzw.com. 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(I assume the $231k is with a 10% fee to the auction house). Great news for Tiger values.. but it does show that at least MK-II's have broken into serious investment car ranks. Which sadly means they will gradually move to ownership by car investors instead of Tiger enthusiasts. 1967 Sunbeam Tiger Mk II | Monterey 2014 | RM AUCTIONS 1967 Sunbeam Tiger Mk II | Monterey 2014 | RM AUCT... The global leader in the collector car industry. Services include auctions, restoration, appraisals, collection advice, private treaty and estate sales. We offer... View on www.rmauctions.com Preview by Yahoo 1967 Sunbeam Tiger MkII | Mecum Auctions 1967 Sunbeam Tiger MkII | Mecum Auctions HIGHLIGHTS - This is the 10th Tiger MKII ever made and is documented from day one - One of only 536 MKII's ever produced with the potent Ford 289 motor View on www.mecum.com Preview by Yahoo Best regards, Stephen Waybright Pack 41 Committee Chair 585-905-5842 (m) | 281-259-3899 (h) www.linkedin.com/in/gswaybright ________________________________ From: Jay Laifman To: Jerry Mo Christopherson Cc: Tiger Autox Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 1:24 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] BIG BUCKS for a tiger !?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! On Aug 17, 2014, at 10:18 AM, Jerry Mo Christopherson wrote: > Well, as I said a few weeks ago my friend was going to sell his 67 MKII at > the RA Monterey auctions. He said he was going to try and get the highest > price for a Tiger. How does $231,000 sound?? I couldn't believe his email > he just sent me. > > > > I feel very privileged now that I got to drive it onetime, HA! > > > > Jerry Christopherson > > 9473187 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/gswaybright@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 14:46:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7DFF25849CF for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:46:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C0BD258485C for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:45:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 131692C014D for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:46:34 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 14:46:33 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: Tiger's List Subject: [Tigers] Alpine list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I know a few of you here are also subscribed to alpines@autox.team.net. That list is currently broken. Something odd happened, and the first 6 of the 67 Team.Net lists, based on alphabetical order, are not working. It is a perplexing problem but I am trying to get it fixed. No ETA at the moment. And on a side note, with Tigers being so valuable now I should probably raise the suggested annual donation for list upkeep. Oh, just checked and there isn't one down there by the donate link. For some of the other lists it was easy. The first Spitfire had an 1147cc engine, so there the suggested amount is $11.47. A popular MG Midget had a 1275, so $12.75. So for Tigers ... mjb, harried list admin. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 16:15:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E582584C14 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:15:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f43.google.com (mail-qa0-f43.google.com [209.85.216.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03962584BFD for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:14:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id w8so3716027qac.2 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:15:12 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=HYkgysyh21YJiQXLxYgr2lWfxxnkbds8PdcAbJVDFoc=; b=NHaPDvJs5D+p34U0MzncpLKrFBPTHCKigmIBJTKuELJzojJQVT7PALjt/bK09OPWkI eDro1u7KPYmodc3vRBUfCQ23Z6glkcoT3jrrsDuy6k96NWuTk7oMC4GQf4vEJZSSXG/9 ldKiuRbc7Sfs3BPNQLu6pC5yPk243dDLTIonYLkDvRp8iTDruKTKD4gzEdxMIY45s+L2 HK5s+mio/dkLYHPJJJvtS1Sk4CA4EKFPepaZtmUPd19bXNunvjn4jNEf2PAYbeucxzaw sCyUlqQNnt33YjcamX4TXzRYyxrCNrfM8Zee17W+HhnNi5m6njCHVYU4wr1w4Qdd9Niy PFcA== Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.111.228 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:15:12 -0700 (PDT) References: <53F114A9.7010903@bradakis.com> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:15:12 -0400 From: Tom Parker To: Mark J Bradakis Cc: Tiger's List Subject: Re: [Tigers] Alpine list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net $2.60?... On Sun, Aug 17, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > I know a few of you here are also subscribed to alpines@autox.team.net. > That list is > currently broken. Something odd happened, and the first 6 of the 67 > Team.Net lists, > based on alphabetical order, are not working. It is a perplexing problem > but I am > trying to get it fixed. No ETA at the moment. > > And on a side note, with Tigers being so valuable now I should probably > raise the suggested > annual donation for list upkeep. Oh, just checked and there isn't one down > there by the donate link. > For some of the other lists it was easy. The first Spitfire had an 1147cc > engine, so there the > suggested amount is $11.47. A popular MG Midget had a 1275, so $12.75. So > for Tigers ... > > mjb, harried list admin. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@ > gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 16:48:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91C87258459A for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:48:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D0225804C0 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:47:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1789F2C01A1 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:48:31 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:48:30 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 CC: Tiger's List References: <53F114A9.7010903@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Alpine list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tom Parker wrote: > $2.60?... I figured that would be the first suggestion for an annual donation. But c'mon, folks sometimes I spend a lot of time, often frustrating keeping Team.Net on the air. Be generous, open your hearts and wallets, be bold, go $2.89! mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 16:56:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AED325845A0 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:56:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f53.google.com (mail-qa0-f53.google.com [209.85.216.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53672584537 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:55:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id v10so3856203qac.12 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:56:14 -0700 (PDT) h=content-type:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:date :subject:from:in-reply-to:references:to:cc; bh=Un/sMUqGGvRnrIt5nzKt+R/AkmlEcXYIea+duR7R2m4=; b=FHQmSpVh/z2oHGdWttrmU0EFpo2iYmclOlJpMvwlxZqdOQQSh7sf5e9huhkjvmnj8d VGLs0MhF4jZPafkhLdx+Yd12NcrqWkie/UA0QfQ4DGzH1sM/0YEYxM09Cx3QwgGwGlX0 02lO2vVoTEz2U0aQe6GKxtQX4ud9gievtyGXA= d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:date:subject:from:in-reply-to :references:to:cc; bh=Un/sMUqGGvRnrIt5nzKt+R/AkmlEcXYIea+duR7R2m4=; b=iVJwmHU5Hv0sx3a/LN41qe0sr00vemDIXnkM2GKjNoKRMIdwrTglsHMaVDczQ265Hu tr+fnKIhDeXTuExuvmeN8ioLChevWPepFwrnCpuCoBlqnwLfQXLwNNGk6tzLmHyJP6cB zdSzOw0/avBCTHFOnpgkQ9mf8KZgAbihOcxx5bCKiiISynxQ0IAwe8ZkvZjrY3fWcfbC 6gzjdaSMS8mfxPcxvoBIWBeVF4tD/XMS0ew+wNzM7crE5R+DWSFmpVfxzF6b7mDgwl2D GyVZiAwFhleGxZJo67P19NODJ6Cbx3blsUb6qWetj6gIL2wlQrY+bB5vLeqCcccAQ4Hh womw== 16mr46890497qgx.18.1408316173997; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (drmons0544w-142177168174.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.ns.bellaliant.net. [142.177.168.174]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n3sm26623353qai.14.2014.08.17.15.56.13 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:56:13 -0300 From: dave@munroe.ca References: <53F114A9.7010903@bradakis.com> <53F1313E.8090300@bradakis.com> To: Mark J Bradakis Cc: Tiger's List Subject: Re: [Tigers] Alpine list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net bIt should be $26.00 of course!B Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network. B Original Message B From: Mark J Bradakis Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 7:49 PM Cc: Tiger's List Subject: Re: [Tigers] Alpine list Tom Parker wrote: > $2.60?... I figured that would be the first suggestion for an annual donation. But c'mon, folks sometimes I spend a lot of time, often frustrating keeping Team.Net on the air. Be generous, open your hearts and wallets, be bold, go $2.89! mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/dave@munroe.ca _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 17:14:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9DAF2584C2B for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:14:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout08.eigbox.net (bosmailout08.eigbox.net [66.96.189.8]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8E812584981 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:13:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bosmailscan02.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.2]) by bosmailout08.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1XJ9dw-00086x-Mv for tigers@autox.team.net; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:13:44 -0400 Received: from [10.115.3.31] (helo=bosimpout11) by bosmailscan02.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1XJ9dw-0005Cx-KS for tigers@autox.team.net; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:13:44 -0400 Received: from bosauthsmtp05.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.20.18.5]) by bosimpout11 with id fzDh1o00106Zqne01zDkFV; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:13:44 -0400 a=eBvjjtMVdWwtQGedh7GyLg==:117 a=SHyvVz8TQuewofNHp6ZJtQ==:17 a=pq4jwCggAAAA:8 a=QPcu4mC3AAAA:8 a=OPgJcfM40kIA:10 a=i2sSiJTQpsEA:10 a=kEh8VdYBrxAA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Or_tTDS8AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=RWTbi6FJvXXb9dNS8rEA:9 a=Jiislr4qQBGy78y0:21 a=ujNXFcWcifI7ABcl:21 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=ororg4E4qSYA:10 a=7F_hI6ufVzMA:10 Received: from [67.202.159.250] (port=58696 helo=Mayfco) by bosauthsmtp05.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1XJ9ds-00075J-JQ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:13:41 -0400 From: "Larry Mayfield" To: , "'Mark J Bradakis'" References: <53F114A9.7010903@bradakis.com> <53F1313E.8090300@bradakis.com> <20140817225613.6013074.10523.15347@munroe.ca> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:13:18 -0700 Thread-Index: AQJaIJbK1V/8ERKJNIe+HaqJcmqPxgJF7xcqA6QbJMQBsyUVcZqDtBAg Content-Language: en-us Cc: 'Tiger's List' Subject: Re: [Tigers] Alpine list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Well, since you set precedence with 1147 cc of screaming Triumph at $11.47 then wouldn't the fee be $42.61 bucks for the 260 and $47.36 for the 289? And for those who have transplanted 5 litre and stroked to 347 cid, or more, well, you see where this is going. And then what about land-speed list? By the mph or in increments of 10 mph 0r? I'm game... My race car for land speed went 210.772 mph for a $21.08 fee plus my Tiger is a box stock 260 so add another $42.61 for a total of $63.69. I usually toss in about a hundred per year so this is cheaper!. Mayf _________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave@munroe.ca Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 3:56 PM To: Mark J Bradakis Cc: Tiger's List Subject: Re: [Tigers] Alpine list b It should be $26.00 of course!B Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network. B Original Message B From: Mark J Bradakis Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 7:49 PM Cc: Tiger's List Subject: Re: [Tigers] Alpine list Tom Parker wrote: > $2.60?... I figured that would be the first suggestion for an annual donation. But c'mon, folks sometimes I spend a lot of time, often frustrating keeping Team.Net on the air. Be generous, open your hearts and wallets, be bold, go $2.89! mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/dave@munroe.ca _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/drmayf@mayfco.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 17:17:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9992584C39 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:17:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f46.google.com (mail-oa0-f46.google.com [209.85.219.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A559D2584A77 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:16:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id m1so3507458oag.33 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:17:12 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :thread-index:content-language; bh=RMKoy8+B4Ji+N5jrH7uJ+ujNV3rGgDQK6HGBwpZcyV4=; b=axDxDIvjtzydUIgZKSXFPBzLabIH1gmmDBH1bA0OT5i4xyjohre3jcGw2ytVh55K00 alPH66YxRprm6tpAwq7zo2zC3a+356inthyOfC6jheb1PXWC9yAxncGp/BcoI79ri8Bu ptH7bqTas6iKnH90quC7mJfsxeo3iESPvWI1diHrdYrmJ5C+pvwAJEzzDcPLlS8snH50 slfaOuldji6ofVeh/KUQtAJRGwjjK3Eo3d1BU8IQ3cLe9FXbJHHz1cN1+aN7nT3DzSjM fpm+/a/ffc86PRM/nxbqT98P6FCqSBH7DQEwKNItB1cq9BHK//hUC4thaBJX5NaCyzL3 k2dQ== jt6mr32709673obc.1.1408317431886; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OFFICEPC (75-32-205-182.lightspeed.ftwotx.sbcglobal.net. [75.32.205.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bz3sm21869422oec.10.2014.08.17.16.17.11 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 16:17:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joe Brown" To: Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:17:09 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac+6bwxtk7xdUZUzT1WczGAIdmTsxw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Glove Box Trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I was just looking through the Alpine West Midlands catalog, http://www.sunbeam-alpine.co.uk/, and they show a piece of padded vinyl trim that goes around the glove box opening in the dash. It looks like it matches the padded roll that attaches to the bottom of the dash. They list it for Alpines and Tigers but I haven't seen this before. Did this come on any Tigers? It actually finishes off the opening very nicely. Thanks, Joe Brown Arlington, TX B382000217 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 18:16:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122DD2584558 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:16:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bosmailout08.eigbox.net (bosmailout08.eigbox.net [66.96.189.8]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7551258065E for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:16:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bosmailscan11.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.11]) by bosmailout08.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1XJAdd-0008E5-VU for tigers@autox.team.net; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:17:29 -0400 Received: from [10.115.3.32] (helo=bosimpout12) by bosmailscan11.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1XJAdd-0003f9-U4 for tigers@autox.team.net; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:17:29 -0400 Received: from bosauthsmtp13.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.20.18.13]) by bosimpout12 with id g0HS1o0070GvDVm010HV6h; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:17:29 -0400 a=UH8/iCWBfdUmbm4Ft4Vi3Q==:117 a=SHyvVz8TQuewofNHp6ZJtQ==:17 a=pq4jwCggAAAA:8 a=QPcu4mC3AAAA:8 a=OPgJcfM40kIA:10 a=JojEEn4MSwAA:10 a=oQnrnc84E7sA:10 a=kEh8VdYBrxAA:10 a=Or_tTDS8AAAA:8 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=Zr7miEi8wWIA:10 a=cKsnjEOsciEA:10 a=I7s0zyvNEt7OY0Qpfh8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=Dm8gcZEkZmRe8XlK9U0A:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=cWiZe3vqEIQA:10 Received: from [67.202.159.250] (port=59217 helo=Mayfco) by bosauthsmtp13.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1XJAda-0005KQ-2g for tigers@autox.team.net; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:17:26 -0400 From: "Larry Mayfield" To: "Tiger List" Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 17:17:11 -0700 Thread-Index: Ac+6eST3nOcWCeFhTUeO4vRdAaAWkw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Off Topic: Source for coiled steel tubing (not stainless steel, however) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I am sure there are a lot of old geezers on the list who in past lives dealt with companies selling all kinds of stuff. I am seeking a company, preferable US, that sells a steel tubing in coiled form in 100 ft. rolls. Sizes considered are 3/8, =, 5/8 and > sizes. I have googled and find a lot of stuff, but have no idea as to which is reliable and cheap, lol.. Any help out there? Just need a name and link if available. mayf _________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 18:17:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F034B2584568 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:17:58 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2531C258065E for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:17:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 472402C01A1 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:18:32 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:18:31 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 CC: Tiger's List References: <53F114A9.7010903@bradakis.com> <53F1313E.8090300@bradakis.com> <20140817225613.6013074.10523.15347@munroe.ca> <000e01cfba70$dedef190$9c9cd4b0$@mayfco.com> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Alpine list Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tom Parker wrote: > O.K. Mark. You know I was kidding. To be serious, though, if I (or we....) can donate by credit card the cost should obviously be more than that. If there's a procedure, how do we do it? I used to be able to process credit cards directly through Fat Chance Garage, but the costs and fees kept going up and the amount I was processing kept going down. I think that one can go through Paypal without setting up an account, and send $$ to donations@autox.team.net. I should make sure of that and add the info to http://www.team.net/donate.html soon. And Dr. Mayf, I do know that you have been a consistent and generous contributor the the Team.Net cause over the years, I do appreciate it. Maybe someday, after 41 years of living in Salt Lake, I'll actually make it out to a Bonneville event. mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 18:37:08 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9E92584565 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:37:08 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF53925808FA for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:37:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 714E62C01A1 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:37:40 -0600 (MDT) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:37:39 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: Tiger List References: <001a01cfba79$c6fbe5c0$54f3b140$@mayfco.com> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Off Topic: Source for coiled steel tubing (not stainless steel, however) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Seems like something McMaster-Carr or Grainger would have, surprised it is hard to find. mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 20:04:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0493E2584C42 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:04:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm39.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm39.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E58A2584C0C for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:04:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm39.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Aug 2014 02:05:02 -0000 Received: from [98.138.100.111] by nm39.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Aug 2014 02:02:13 -0000 Received: from [98.139.215.141] by tm100.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Aug 2014 02:02:13 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.201] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Aug 2014 02:02:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Aug 2014 02:02:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 7942 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Aug 2014 02:02:12 -0000 s=s1024; t=1408327332; bh=9XB+GPVxVlWjuCZXppGsRTEv5KAfOQj48j94VmIPYmw=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=j4s6VnmPtlGXbP7jm9qVvwlEpMGSuYJuXAp8EP38sFWmM3EQaAWXWY7yHg5nAtSfVOWSwwN1qSSyvCGJl+CWvVqenHpm03WW1dHZPrrpb8qXU65EUhl0fgEH7WO41WzwuMrPtV4ddcc9EalJkN9gn+m26qFiZcl0J6YHV6RpxPw= buL4aNZ_hp9H9JaZNKHCL69jfNwsQYXMASWQZGNUcqAqofZR.1b8ruZT1OXl pjN5TeIp5IWK8hFOgT2g7GWrdLvmIO.5DsIZfTM8sbxEa3I4wOrHoD3DOCR5 zDzan2rh0paa1L5B4fmgPEfhWadgrVhhsJH2.snsLO.me4gfJh59W5Has41h pUfkCf6Rqk1rp6DFs56a0T4TFMLB2x8rEWWR1ci4UnsNHTreRJFxtNzSr4Dn lk.eI9V4UV7dVocbcKfqjdsQoUH.OtXxmUufjmvQ28yUAGr6eI030j391ro1 zFepTnxkDEi2WGx_jg59xeLlUqYR46qpXTEd9fDvzsHwvkJyNlgTiSNmP5T_ U0Y.uw4XapWo1ne8jSPPw16l_3soS.5IOS2awRlX9eKq5vO_ivfh8wNHqcnm h_DuQnjaKZa0Q5txIhN1_D1SZgEjzmCpiPsdwE6EFyugtfyuNdGhzb71XouF 2nRMM1BEmpTPamLVzkEDeogGDKOlxolwY4e.3r6cumup6xMJtoDdiHyASifp .CCc1D0l9Rm0l1JrWwxOpHanOCzyXalucLrQoXT8338d8bcF0meARUQ0izCl SQNat8kLxCxHZrDFMjMPVVBmojpSSbYkxlU4KmycPht3Azr4Jncxk1aWf Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162702.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:02:12 PDT SWYgaXQncyB3aGF0IEkgdGhpbmsgaXQgaXMsIGl0J3MgdXNlZCBvbiBBbHBpbmVzIHdpdGggYmxhY2svcGxhc3RpYyBpbnN0cnVtZW50IHBhbmVscywgdGhlIFNwb3J0IFRvdXJpbmcgbW9kZWwuIEkgcGVyc29uYWxseSBoYXZlIG5vdCBzZWVuIGl0IG9uIEFscGluZSBHVCdzIGFuZCBUaWdlcnMgd2l0aCB3b29kIHZlbmVlciBpbnN0cnVtZW50IHBhbmVscy4KClJhbmRlIEJlbGxtYW4KCgoKT24gU3VuZGF5LCBBdWd1c3QgMTcsIDIwMTQgNzoxOCBQTSwgSm9lIEJyb3duIDxqYmJyb3duMTk4MEBnbWFpbC5jb20BMAEBAQE- References: <000601cfba71$5edac4a0$1c904de0$@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 19:02:12 -0700 From: snakebit289 To: Joe Brown , "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Glove Box Trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net If it's what I think it is, it's used on Alpines with black/plastic instrument panels, the Sport Touring model. I personally have not seen it on Alpine GT's and Tigers with wood veneer instrument panels. Rande Bellman On Sunday, August 17, 2014 7:18 PM, Joe Brown wrote: I was just looking through the Alpine West Midlands catalog, http://www.sunbeam-alpine.co.uk/, and they show a piece of padded vinyl trim that goes around the glove box opening in the dash. It looks like it matches the padded roll that attaches to the bottom of the dash. They list it for Alpines and Tigers but I haven't seen this before. Did this come on any Tigers? It actually finishes off the opening very nicely. Thanks, Joe Brown Arlington, TX B382000217 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/snakebit289@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 20:45:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCCE12584BF9 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:45:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.230]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8607E2584585 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:43:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [76.179.167.4] ([76.179.167.4:56568] helo=[192.168.1.104]) by cdptpa-oedge03 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id F0/6D-19179-39861F35; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 02:44:35 +0000 Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:44:24 -0400 From: Tod Brown To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger engine displacement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net To be consistent, we should use the metric displacement for the Tiger engine - 260 cu. in. = 4261 cc. 289 cu. in. = 4736 cc. You can do the math to figure the appropriate contribution. Tod B392002384LRXFE TAC #864 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 21:52:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34DC2584CA0 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:52:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yh0-f45.google.com (mail-yh0-f45.google.com [209.85.213.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A9B2584A8F for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:51:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-yh0-f45.google.com with SMTP id 29so4050519yhl.4 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:52:24 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7NgJeAPLblU/msXYMa3mfBRXdq2EGij0kpRKjp8vDSQ=; b=OsesTOdvzSaUQxuECqgN/vXfOkc8eze2jIzKAZ686NHtm547uI8MfMKo25zECKUNl/ AfBixBDs7DCNNC3q6KsnQgrjJXHOTnQhYCltiWMn/siz5JhFu1O5JxizBlZJSGMGnKti pmN6YIyGmfuvcaGzH2joyBoNVboR4fSQZQt8oZ9HrDRuMK3ADcv4cLZhJxVlyt+v9eDl hc0hciX3QDMO6uIxALIVNmq7qM32FlokbqIh5kU0FNlo1dvUES5CRBiNQ9CGnNVI5/GK CnxXdv4lxmbq58OLmpw8RvmAgysWpQqjjTZaPlJVMktD06wqvhR5wJpbeLyP0oWmJ/FA ZSFQ== u78mr7319367yhh.107.1408333944583; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.13] (adsl-184-38-195-56.msy.bellsouth.net. [184.38.195.56]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id f45sm33353895yha.53.2014.08.17.20.52.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 20:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:52:22 -0500 From: "A. C." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Cost of list and BIG BUCKS for a Tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mark, et al, It seems that the cost for the list could be simply solved. Just contact the purchaser of the Mark II and tell him that, according to our traditions, the owner of the most expensive Tiger automatically assumes responsibility for fully funding the list. With the willingness, and the ability, to pay $200K+ for a Tiger, I think he will believe anything Mark tells him, without question! And, of course, we will all vouch for Mark's honesty, right? If not, I seem to remember being told by PayPal that I could pay with PayPal even without a PayPal account. I've never tried it without a PayPal account, but sending money to Mark by PayPal has always been a piece of cake. It's also easy to set up a PayPal account and handy to then use it to make payments on many internet sites. That way one site, rather than many, has your bank/credit card info. I have gotten so picky that I usually refuse to do business with a site that doesn't accept PayPal. HTH, A. C. Tynes New Orleans _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 22:40:39 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC8642584C19 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:40:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cmta8.telus.net (cmta8.telus.net [209.171.16.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BF92584A8F for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:40:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.1.66] ([108.181.177.232]) by cmta8.telus.net with TELUS id g4gz1o00951DtT8014gzgz; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:41:00 -0600 a=m4pTb4Yjdy1bn/o17cKRBA==:17 a=h9nv2_Nk-NQA:10 a=S9mx1Odz0Y0A:10 a=UIdm24C_LI4A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Qm2X8ul6AAAA:8 a=BIwUFpKluUeGNGQBx-kA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=DOwq4J9021MA:10 a=p6ePeiD4WF4A:10 a=m4pTb4Yjdy1bn/o17cKRBA==:117 From: Pointers Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:40:58 -0600 To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers] BIG BUCKS for a tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Staggering. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 17 22:43:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE6D2584C09 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:43:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f176.google.com (mail-ig0-f176.google.com [209.85.213.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265FE2584A8F; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 22:43:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f176.google.com with SMTP id hn18so6989732igb.15 for ; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:44:00 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:from:date :content-type:mime-version; bh=g6sZ8oyTDrkOFWL3xH8boZxcLhLnylPQP4Qg5AIBKck=; b=xB6N1JWKRuRZUqs68SJTsgjsWl5HpcG3Jqn7+dp0r3LLShZ9wmTWGTSJiLIt1dmAgJ fKiKcwQ1Xuixxym6NwJrTm2gtek1aTo7Ug5+k/JrsW4IvF8M+TJBvP582SgDbojG1WDQ US9AeLv2f4l5Yl9ckWBLZldwCEsOWLbgaZqFGHmai59FeLRgt6RYdvRrq1KEuM/0M/Ny Ag/lz+Myiohvsgg84lFKXWG3lNkDaFMePx1a02EGXP4Ag/AXnPZQoDqJKqiAbG/W317F 5mzZA9/MdULhUJGi4klMTfokVrS6RhJZCkeyw4ohGr2/chi88L+jnKrY/8uH3D91X3Na PcXw== x6mr39630298igp.30.1408337040604; Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:44:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.186 (bda-74-82-80-88.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.88]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id y11sm39706890igp.14.2014.08.17.21.43.59 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 17 Aug 2014 21:43:59 -0700 (PDT) Sensitivity: Normal To: "Pointers" ,"Tigers" ,tigers@autox.team.net From: jay.laifman@gmail.com Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 04:43:56 +0000 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers] BIG BUCKS for a tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I just saw an XKE go for $500k. So our Tigers are still a steal! It was an amazingly nice Jaguar. ------Original Message------ From: Pointers To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers] BIG BUCKS for a tiger Sent: Aug 17, 2014 9:40 PM Staggering. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 18 17:53:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E152584948 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:53:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (fed1rmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9336F25803B2 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:52:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo210 ([68.230.241.161]) by fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140818235337.KFGG32389.fed1rmfepo103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo210> for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:53:37 -0400 Received: from fed1rmwml205 ([172.18.140.217]) by fed1rmimpo210 with cox id gPtc1o00V4hdPEs01PtcUo; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:53:37 -0400 a=aJjGzh87xD/pBkJsGYZVXg==:17 a=r97YwrQCdFIA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=L97aBgh49vEA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=jQEGNf2dAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=5kXjrFSHJmpqJ_wC_ukA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=edzhSJKU2ZOSCCaf:21 a=vivXpxuf22-XLvTj:21 a=aJjGzh87xD/pBkJsGYZVXg==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 72.197.195.91 by webmail.west.cox.net; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:53:36 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 16:53:36 -0700 From: To: Joe Brown , "tigers@autox.team.net" , snakebit289 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Tigers] Glove Box Trim Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net My Mk1a has a piece of Vinyl wrapped around the dash board at the bottom of the glove box opening. It was the smooth grain not the pebble grain of my seats and center console. It looked like it was original to the car, so I transferred the piece to my new dash from Prestige Autowood. Erich From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 08:49:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C146E2584A16 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:49:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo103.cox.net (eastrmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.215]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E82C258043B for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:48:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo306 ([68.230.241.238]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140819144916.QGOD31158.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo306> for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:49:16 -0400 Received: from eastrmwml206 ([172.18.18.217]) by eastrmimpo306 with cox id gepG1o0074h0NJL01epGvp; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:49:16 -0400 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=UyHOC7Gu_PIA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=uxYh2BnuWZc45D9qZMEA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 204.61.12.74 by webmail.east.cox.net; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:49:16 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:49:16 -0400 From: To: tigers@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: [Tigers] Cowl screw Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hey, guys: I've been a Tiger owner now for coming up on thirty-five years and yet I can't believe I'm going to have to ask this question. There is a pan head screw on top of the cowl on the driver's side right above the firewall. I've never known what this was for, although I speculate that it was used on the Alpine as a ground point (maybe?). The question is a two-parter...first, what exactly is the screw for and, second...is it supposed to be painted the body color or left natural? Thanks much, Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 10:25:34 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0385825852BC for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:25:34 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF58258457B for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:25:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2014 16:26:07 -0000 Received: from [98.138.101.128] by nm38.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2014 16:23:12 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.170] by tm16.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2014 16:23:12 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.224] by tm16.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2014 16:23:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1033.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Aug 2014 16:23:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 10073 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Aug 2014 16:23:12 -0000 s=s1024; t=1408465392; bh=HLH2r+46GgW3dowZxrY5CCnnvebvk4EAFREJuMeJ9rs=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cKOBDlFlGHkbczLbBMgDg98WighsNK+f5NWLLgBVp5+EyUpJj0Iu//eh0H4MldCtqfDmKtdHabDW97iLRgziC5bXYfO+lYF9vbOGCrRWBFLbaFQjkIeMO103Q35JuGwVm6Ocn0U6PbN+XX+dJvl8AnapmVWMUafjHCoXlhgDfnI= sMpW0JkJgamM_RuZdxMUGAxDt_Y_a1rHmJZGfDYg8xWEVKluBWf95dCEkA2p DKdIUReDYr2HsB01oBMVQaOnX9vHuMWZmBcU1T3nPXgYWn4RohiICA9sLcLN mtT1QBrYYdmfrvy_OZQO9Xh3HwZAEByDpaJZDiwyx_vxhmSpw8KPnp81hEOG a8qNJjv9u5UxODW_gu9xf6o3VuZhIPbjVod3Sn2C8YAvCjv5CxSRnKL7fUCA yaOCvaTBFyWgyOt8mg0x1KdMKkV8A5gV1KxySOpabV2p8fwRwRvNvmmi1EWl qI2jPWZ.XgxqyvCFEaszLvwfJ.hAiEv8803lOQkd_n40X2PhKJji1cqlQqJI UTz2qpE2YxA16DQXRqHcUUvem9uxLZYJ6fdxHaefAcuAolFWl_yW6F1xfELe B7xDHrAeKHqPBRaaLQacNg39bPyxKcOIsUryG92yqrnqr6FkO_aIxpVInlWx DgSydoEK8gtkCojHWMhAhjk7YKqWRvOVczOQX935Cn20Lng-- Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162703.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:23:12 PDT VGhlIHBpZWNlIHRoYXQgRXJpY2ggbWVudGlvbmVkIGlzIHRvIGhlbHAgbWFrZSB0aGUgbG93ZXIgZWRnZSBvZiB0aGUgZ2xvdmUgYm94wqAgb3BlbmluZyBtb3JlIG9mIGFuIGludGVncmFsIGdyYWIgaGFuZGxlLCB0aGF0J3MgYWxzbyB3aHkgdGhlIGdsb3ZlIGJveCBpbnNlcnQgaXMgb3BlbiBhIGxpdHRsZSBvbiB0aGUgYm90dG9tLCBpbiBvcmRlciB0byBnZXQgeW91ciBmaW5nZXJzIGFyb3VuZCB0aGF0IHBhcnQuIEhlJ3MgcmlnaHQgLCBuaWNlIGFzIHRoZSBQcmVzdGlnZXdvb2QgcmVwbGFjZW1lbnQgcGEBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:23:12 -0700 From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tigers - instrument panel vinyl. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The piece that Erich mentioned is to help make the lower edge of the glove box opening more of an integral grab handle, that's also why the glove box insert is open a little on the bottom, in order to get your fingers around that part. He's right , nice as the Prestigewood replacement panel is, it doesn't come with the vinyl wrap. You need to transfer your old one to the new panel. It uses very small nails to affix to the panel. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 19 14:45:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 509CE2584591 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:45:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBA1C25805AA for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:45:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta003.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7JKh5si009965; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:45:53 -0700 Received: by dm0219.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 4018925e) id dm0219.53e1352d.cdccd; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 13:45:47 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: , Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:45:36 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac+7vMkmktC6bXdhQqykJjHZ+0jcqgAMLbYg engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.27,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-08-19_05:2014-08-19,2014-08-19,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1408190239 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Cowl screw Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Andy Probably a grounding point Mine is natural but I have no idea if that is strictly original Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of awtiger@cox.net Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 10:49 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Cowl screw Hey, guys: I've been a Tiger owner now for coming up on thirty-five years and yet I can't believe I'm going to have to ask this question. There is a pan head screw on top of the cowl on the driver's side right above the firewall. I've never known what this was for, although I speculate that it was used on the Alpine as a ground point (maybe?). The question is a two-parter...first, what exactly is the screw for and, second...is it supposed to be painted the body color or left natural? Thanks much, Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4745 / Virus Database: 4007/8057 - Release Date: 08/18/14 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 01:32:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 802CC2584F76 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 01:32:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350922584448 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 01:32:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (50-198-190-18-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DC2D2C014D for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 01:32:46 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 01:32:45 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1 To: Tiger Autox Subject: [Tigers] Alpine list and thanks Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The alpines@autox.team.net list should be back on the air. What fun. And it seems that Paypal used to send me a message whenever anyone donated via that route, but apparently not now. It might take me a few days to get around to thanking those who contributed. mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 10:31:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6152584F68 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 10:31:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969B72584613 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 10:31:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ownerHP ([unknown] [98.117.220.143]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0NAM0088B5Y0ENG0@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:32:25 -0500 (CDT) From: "Clyde McLaughlin" To: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 12:32:27 -0400 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac+8k77YiZrxm+BVSYu8PxyRMfK4OQ== Subject: [Tigers] glove box Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net One of the car shows recently had a Tiger on that they redid the dash with modern gauges and refinished wood, they didn't like the way the glove box insert just sort of was there, so they made a thin padded piece to go around the opening, I thought it looked good..not original, but at that point neither was the rest of the dash. Made it look finished, Clyde _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 15:02:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBC12584630 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:02:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo201.cox.net (eastrmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.216]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 771B72580565 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 15:01:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo305 ([68.230.241.237]) by eastrmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140820210214.WLRR31475.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo305> for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:02:14 -0400 Received: from eastrmwml105 ([172.18.18.217]) by eastrmimpo305 with cox id h92E1o0054h0NJL0192ENl; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:02:14 -0400 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:17 a=S2x9nDg-a1wA:10 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=UyHOC7Gu_PIA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=lfz-VF4-AAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=faqu-ELty33AqgCAXPUA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=ILCZio5HsAgA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 204.61.12.74 by webmail.east.cox.net; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:02:14 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:02:14 -0400 From: To: Clyde McLaughlin , tigers@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Tigers] glove box Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I think that was the show called "Fantom Works" based out of Norfolk, VA. The car was Carnival Red and appeared to be a crossover bodied car as it had a square cornered hood and the tri-fold metal top cover. Anybody on the list in the Norfolk, VA area want to own up to owning that car? Go to their website to see pics of the project: http://www.fantomworks.com/project/1965-sunbeam-tiger/ Andy Walker Edmond, OK (earthquake central...) ---- Clyde McLaughlin wrote: > One of the car shows recently had a Tiger on that they redid the dash with > modern gauges and refinished wood, they didn't like the way the glove box > insert just sort of was there, so they made a thin padded piece to go > around the opening, I thought it looked good..not original, but at that > point neither was the rest of the dash. Made it look finished, Clyde > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/awtiger@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 18:03:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6572584FCE for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:03:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yk0-f171.google.com (mail-yk0-f171.google.com [209.85.160.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C2E2584496 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:02:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-yk0-f171.google.com with SMTP id 19so7194339ykq.16 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:03:15 -0700 (PDT) h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tKMQnxacFbRy9AB8mFSGMMqij03oSGggIJU+2WmAnJQ=; b=eo264uNddZuMluahMIXHTB4ch+pUVosMhEDRKdVC4ra4A9KixZUORD0fw+2YQJ33IY e0LRJt8nHTLnqyHnGdZfuKaCIwkOGcwyJXevD0GYoHVKQWVBNHufPqUCwI1CB2bkXUvT qV0/akbYCBCVm8P2Cm127WHQ9qOzq8mM2REq5VYp43DmkrLhXAx7Y/bNCrgYyaDZIpYs ZpVfXywyHcsuZL3QlSxgnwzsru2S5qObpR3cF+ifQUbjdXVoQqcNJfa6CaxGU9V0/OZ3 NVM72Bnrtsg1ow0gCsXgQ3QI+Ei1HRCqYSHfvpXjGi/f4NErCPS3wHfLtONLqxTVNuIb MsvA== n54mr5846183yhf.110.1408579395190; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (172-5-152-13.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [172.5.152.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id 45sm50832254yhj.32.2014.08.20.17.03.14 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 17:03:14 -0700 From: Alex Haugland User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.2; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: tigers@autox.team.net References: <20140819104916.1SDC3.137445.imail@eastrmwml206> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Cowl screw Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for asking that! I was trying to figure out if that screw was original to my car or not (and also what the heck it was for). I've left it there when I stripped my car for repainting and, as it had been painted over previously, it's being painted over now while my car is in the process of going back to being the original Moonstone paint colour. If it shouldn't be painted, I'll probably remove it, blast it clean and replate it but until I hear otherwise, I'll probably leave mine painted. Alex Haugland Eugene, Oregon B9470334LRXFE On 8/19/2014 7:49 AM, awtiger@cox.net wrote: > Hey, guys: > > I've been a Tiger owner now for coming up on thirty-five years and yet I can't believe I'm going to have to ask this question. There is a pan head screw on top of the cowl on the driver's side right above the firewall. I've never known what this was for, although I speculate that it was used on the Alpine as a ground point (maybe?). The question is a two-parter...first, what exactly is the screw for and, second...is it supposed to be painted the body color or left natural? > > Thanks much, > Andy Walker > Edmond, OK > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ahauglan@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 20 19:40:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35D9C2585749 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:40:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f47.google.com (mail-oi0-f47.google.com [209.85.218.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C59D2580836 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 19:40:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f47.google.com with SMTP id x69so6257001oia.6 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:41:17 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=gJSKWCGRyr3+wU4t0AwsFcoIiV5wEormsNUBufLXQvg=; b=ze+sXFtWsJrR2BlVl/8jrc70EZaAGpXaz64X8UM6aSyjVfCpYH+J+mgBy1ObA0OuOg XR7gv4Ov58Y4kg28jjjDfyewm3UiRzkR/1LiRq6ok5Anb1duygVjT4gg36qDMI6mrrGc cLkf7mIIaugLXq+oT1WwFLQ50d9fjDW6e8fV5lwxv3c6wJCyrSqvRJ6yPrHTOohRS9nw wmk8SpxVL4PCjBQBLnbY/BUqkO5ACu9Ea6l7jsGbj970REeaaczCYjR/Rq6NeuBZwtaL UOgIWwi03H/t3fDO/tg4mMc1PpM0PCPSOyBJIs7KG+ZsThIM52aS3z1v/GDgWkEz4T1s vP0A== iq6mr51224532obb.34.1408585277724; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.57.139 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 18:41:17 -0700 (PDT) References: <20140819104916.1SDC3.137445.imail@eastrmwml206> <53F53742.2000308@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 21:41:17 -0400 From: Jeffery Randall To: Alex Haugland Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Cowl screw Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The one on my SV alpine is not painted and has 2 ground wires on it that go into the loom, sorry no original tiger to look at On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Alex Haugland wrote: > Thanks for asking that! I was trying to figure out if that screw was > original to my car or not (and also what the heck it was for). I've left > it there when I stripped my car for repainting and, as it had been painted > over previously, it's being painted over now while my car is in the process > of going back to being the original Moonstone paint colour. If it > shouldn't be painted, I'll probably remove it, blast it clean and replate > it but until I hear otherwise, I'll probably leave mine painted. > > Alex Haugland > Eugene, Oregon > B9470334LRXFE > > > On 8/19/2014 7:49 AM, awtiger@cox.net wrote: > >> Hey, guys: >> >> I've been a Tiger owner now for coming up on thirty-five years and yet I >> can't believe I'm going to have to ask this question. There is a pan head >> screw on top of the cowl on the driver's side right above the firewall. >> I've never known what this was for, although I speculate that it was used >> on the Alpine as a ground point (maybe?). The question is a >> two-parter...first, what exactly is the screw for and, second...is it >> supposed to be painted the body color or left natural? >> >> Thanks much, >> Andy Walker >> Edmond, OK >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ahauglan@gmail. >> com >> > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jefferyrandall@ > gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 21 08:08:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75EC1258084B for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 08:08:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mf1.cmpsource.com (mf1.cmpsource.com [216.106.62.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E69D258054A for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 08:08:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from RedBudAdminPC (unknown [199.187.162.108]) by mf1.cmpsource.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF9E40B51; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 09:09:21 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jim McLaughlin" To: , "'Alex Haugland'" References: <20140819104916.1SDC3.137445.imail@eastrmwml206> <53F53742.2000308@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 09:09:30 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac+84RYDAPOOedaOR0eB1B3STg0aHwAZs8wg Subject: Re: [Tigers] Cowl screw Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Listers, I have an HRO - Series V Sunbeam Alpine. For those that may not know this is a RHD (right hand drive) Alpine (home market) and it has factory overdrive. Anyway I just checked the cowl screw and it is natural with 2 black wires in a grounding terminal. The bad news is that it is a Phillips head screw and should be a regular slotted head screw. Here is some background on the car; I am the 2nd owner, bought it from the original owner, whose parents got it for him when he attended Cambridge University in the UK. I bought the car in Washington, DC when I lived there in 1981-82. The original owner brought it to the US when he emigrated here. The reason I even replied is the car is original paint (and rust) car. Up for restoration after my Tiger is essentially complete, oh yes, they never are, so I will start soon anyway. Jim McLaughlin B382000175LRXFE -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeffery Randall Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:41 PM To: Alex Haugland Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Cowl screw The one on my SV alpine is not painted and has 2 ground wires on it that go into the loom, sorry no original tiger to look at On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Alex Haugland wrote: > Thanks for asking that! I was trying to figure out if that screw was > original to my car or not (and also what the heck it was for). I've left > it there when I stripped my car for repainting and, as it had been painted > over previously, it's being painted over now while my car is in the process > of going back to being the original Moonstone paint colour. If it > shouldn't be painted, I'll probably remove it, blast it clean and replate > it but until I hear otherwise, I'll probably leave mine painted. > > Alex Haugland > Eugene, Oregon > B9470334LRXFE > > > On 8/19/2014 7:49 AM, awtiger@cox.net wrote: > >> Hey, guys: >> >> I've been a Tiger owner now for coming up on thirty-five years and yet I >> can't believe I'm going to have to ask this question. There is a pan head >> screw on top of the cowl on the driver's side right above the firewall. >> I've never known what this was for, although I speculate that it was used >> on the Alpine as a ground point (maybe?). The question is a >> two-parter...first, what exactly is the screw for and, second...is it >> supposed to be painted the body color or left natural? >> >> Thanks much, >> Andy Walker >> Edmond, OK >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ahauglan@gmail. >> com >> > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jefferyrandall@ > gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimmc13@socket.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 21 13:29:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926B02580968 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:29:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from COL004-OMC2S9.hotmail.com (col004-omc2s9.hotmail.com [65.55.34.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AECE62580849 for ; Thu, 21 Aug 2014 13:29:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL401-EAS187 ([65.55.34.73]) by COL004-OMC2S9.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22712); Thu, 21 Aug 2014 12:29:59 -0700 From: Wayne Pierzga To: "'Jim McLaughlin'" , , "'Alex Haugland'" References: <20140819104916.1SDC3.137445.imail@eastrmwml206> <53F53742.2000308@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 15:29:57 -0400 Thread-Index: AQDRmKS2RDSwWXa6K3XOfykV1f3ETAGeCx6KAo9SbtcBqufS6Z2o9/3Q Content-Language: en-us FILETIME=[4BB16020:01CFBD76] Subject: Re: [Tigers] Cowl screw Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Actually.... The screw is indeed Phillips head. And is normally 'black'. The easiest way to achieve the finish is to clean the screw, polish a bit then dip in 'gun-blue' let it dry and buff. Might have to dip-buff a few times to get a near black finish. Should be able to get gun-barrel bluing at a local outdoors shop for a few bucks. Wayne -----Original Message----- From: Jim McLaughlin [mailto:jimmc13@socket.net] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 10:10 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net; 'Alex Haugland' Subject: Re: [Tigers] Cowl screw Listers, I have an HRO - Series V Sunbeam Alpine. For those that may not know this is a RHD (right hand drive) Alpine (home market) and it has factory overdrive. Anyway I just checked the cowl screw and it is natural with 2 black wires in a grounding terminal. The bad news is that it is a Phillips head screw and should be a regular slotted head screw. Here is some background on the car; I am the 2nd owner, bought it from the original owner, whose parents got it for him when he attended Cambridge University in the UK. I bought the car in Washington, DC when I lived there in 1981-82. The original owner brought it to the US when he emigrated here. The reason I even replied is the car is original paint (and rust) car. Up for restoration after my Tiger is essentially complete, oh yes, they never are, so I will start soon anyway. Jim McLaughlin B382000175LRXFE -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jeffery Randall Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:41 PM To: Alex Haugland Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Cowl screw The one on my SV alpine is not painted and has 2 ground wires on it that go into the loom, sorry no original tiger to look at On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 8:03 PM, Alex Haugland wrote: > Thanks for asking that! I was trying to figure out if that screw was > original to my car or not (and also what the heck it was for). I've > left it there when I stripped my car for repainting and, as it had > been painted over previously, it's being painted over now while my car > is in the process > of going back to being the original Moonstone paint colour. If it > shouldn't be painted, I'll probably remove it, blast it clean and > replate it but until I hear otherwise, I'll probably leave mine painted. > > Alex Haugland > Eugene, Oregon > B9470334LRXFE > > > On 8/19/2014 7:49 AM, awtiger@cox.net wrote: > >> Hey, guys: >> >> I've been a Tiger owner now for coming up on thirty-five years and >> yet I can't believe I'm going to have to ask this question. There is >> a pan head >> screw on top of the cowl on the driver's side right above the firewall. >> I've never known what this was for, although I speculate that it was >> used on the Alpine as a ground point (maybe?). The question is a >> two-parter...first, what exactly is the screw for and, second...is it >> supposed to be painted the body color or left natural? >> >> Thanks much, >> Andy Walker >> Edmond, OK >> _______________________________________________ >> >> tigers@autox.team.net >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/ahauglan@gmail. >> com >> > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jefferyrandall@ > gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jimmc13@socket.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 22 19:55:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618D5258458C for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:55:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f50.google.com (mail-oa0-f50.google.com [209.85.219.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 060FD2584516 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:55:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f50.google.com with SMTP id g18so9382973oah.9 for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:56:08 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :thread-index:content-language; bh=sokVXDXOAlaQlQCVVHLzU78by1A+L0UD3bp0zZl+Msk=; b=UMdMJt/M2Coi1AOOz1oOoVHDeXeKU2t4NZAoBhUgPL1ylryOJ81CkeUn/5vO5wcafd zVwwdTeUrYppuRmTCbLbZfsJzyGDh29yCrD+YBLc51Jwz1QxgN7/Jo8qwZ1hvglDDPsK jOv+hheLZVHXyfz2TfN9k+bhuLT8uPpThfaqYRVlMcZjvmbQl8qyCyyjRAd93b3MiCvZ siL2XRrw/YCiJvSvO61tqWIgWFS6TywO78XPfaIcIHyfDzfjykR1gSLSEOn07bYyZ3Ka uTBK8vBRt4M5VPTbHTdQZvkIR1DCkmA6d52QCO6e53L6n1io5pKBy6OYWa8oI7VXj1Lv b4dQ== Fri, 22 Aug 2014 18:56:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OFFICEPC (75-32-205-182.lightspeed.ftwotx.sbcglobal.net. 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Thanks, Joe Brown Arlington, TX B382000217 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Aug 23 08:10:09 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E59A258459F for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 08:10:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-35.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADFED2580449 for ; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 08:09:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta006.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7NE75xs030039; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 07:10:29 -0700 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a208) id dm0213.53e1351d.11390b; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 07:10:27 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.146.148]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:10:25 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Joe Brown'" , Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 10:10:20 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac++dM23cBG4B0M0Rkie3TDBCt6J9wAZlA8g engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.27,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-08-23_01:2014-08-23,2014-08-23,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1408230180 Subject: Re: [Tigers] CAT Air Cleaner Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Joe the CAT newsletter, Tiger Tales, indicated that there is "a discount to all dues paying members of Tiger clubs". The picture has a $450 club sticker for the air cleaner top and bottom pieces. Contact Lee - smartpearl1@yahoo.com or call 949 - 212 - 0995 for more information Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Brown Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 9:56 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] CAT Air Cleaner Hey, I've been looking at the reproduction air cleaner being offered now on ebay and it looks like it is saying that CAT members get a discount but I don't see anything about it on the CAT website. I used to belong to CAT for many years but let my membership drop. Does anybody out there know what the price of the air cleaner is to members and how would I order it if I renewed my membership? One other question. What is the going rate to get something like the air cleaner chromed? Thanks, Joe Brown Arlington, TX B382000217 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 08:36:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B09F25845F0 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 08:36:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFEBF258053B for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 08:36:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id le20so15302535vcb.14 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 07:37:01 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WGkuzkDlmHt72YNZO6BxJE2oTZcPskd5OFwaYN9NSZY=; b=JAodeedqkSC0H0klqZ/H81YQos91Nloj0vNAJMBKdIW+qL46m2zfy3eIhzMpgGc9w/ 2NQ2uZ0AVGzqCkOVAgkSbC2nslR1jb21dRCUWXcgwqbV+n7MYwUlgwKs2jSU9L9fzIgx nuPZLYCHdXIsX8NorEz2s66w+cIFOJNnySk4M/ogdakBAzDG2y+XQ0WOenWNEedSiSQB i2zUS6ZC13MSZbrJV+C6MRR5fIe7C3IkuVOpZZEnuLRxeEw05hko9ZRF4J9CtTFf0BXe +af73D+dMUjjF/jMYATHmT/Pi4SmRkRn285Wpoo0p5lUFHAP9BkODryCiSnLlUjtvVwm Lzxw== ct4mr5722479vcb.51.1408977421811; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 07:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.221.0.131 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 07:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 10:37:01 -0400 From: "Robert D. Hogan" To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Distributor Performance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Is there any performance advantage of a Ford dual point distributor over a Pertronix electronically triggered distributor. There certainly can't be a maintenance advantage to a dual point, so is a dual point's firing worth it? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 09:11:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC6A2584CF7 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:11:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (smtp-fo.agate.dfw.synacor.com [205.219.233.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6979F2584451 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:11:18 -0600 (MDT) c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1408979518; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=je+KVdyV4rlWhmI7c3RdgRRE89s=; b=0CirmhZhqUZzpS6jWx6XS3qev3z2IgRkuPmH+rYX+LUspYJXEhxAN8/PQ79izSWK ncriMskYdPn9kOQzoZKV48KX7EqUSW0Yw9BPlhy2x7O3nv2loWERgJV2OX+HCIDZ MYzGz8n/vCj0LmmHZ31ZE0JZCaCg89EZorgLv1ZfxsTxEv3SHFUcBpIzeaVcG2Dt OPjuvcGHRQ79a6r2W2s0sssskB7WAGJabkWLIfj+WwVElWnwDZkHI0udUf3YeID2 5bRuhH9X/EEQOgXZUJr2BxrMbZBTbS9j14gg9AuWtBS4yIYj8Te+B5WGyfyZRD5g QkpbkeWeNugg9cEsyGq02g==; X_CMAE_Category: , , a=z0CUatW4FRnUbC/Rm3dVig==:17 a=JyiakQj_4LsA:10 a=VDCKiUWNZZAA:10 a=1poGYrevpj8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=1oqGTYSLAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=_ZWLHAISx5guZ5oW07AA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=cvn8laQl214A:10 a=z0CUatW4FRnUbC/Rm3dVig==:117 Authentication-Results: smtp03.agate.dfw.synacor.com header.from=wseay@embarqmail.com; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp03.agate.dfw.synacor.com smtp.mail=wseay@embarqmail.com; spf=neutral; sender-id=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp03.agate.dfw.synacor.com smtp.user=wseay; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp03.agate.dfw.synacor.com: 71.48.128.206 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of embarqmail.com) Received: from [71.48.128.206] ([71.48.128.206:28896] helo=PCWin7) by smtp.centurylink.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.1.37854 r(Momo-dev:3.5.1.0)) with ESMTPA id C0/EA-00341-A325BF35; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:11:58 -0400 From: "wseay" To: "Robert D. Hogan" , References: Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:11:56 -0400 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor Performance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The objective of the dual-point distributor is to increase dwell to get a larger spark. With the Pertronix you get the increased dwell with none of the disadvantages of the mechanical point set in the dual-point setup. There is one potential advantage to the dual-point distributor that you might want to consider though. The dual-point distributor is set up to optimize performance. As such, it has no vacuum advance and, presumably, has a mechanical advance curve which is intended for maximum performance rather than the best compromise between economy (i.e. with vacuum advance) and performance. If you install a Pertronix unit you will retain the stock vacuum and mechanical advance which should provide the best economy/performance compromise. If you want the combined advantage of low maintenance from the Pertronix and optimal performance from the dual-point you can install a Pertronix unit, disconnect the vacuum advance and diddle with the mechanical advance. Will Seay - wseay@embarqmail.com ______________________________ "I think not therefore I am not" (anon) -----Original Message----- From: Robert D. Hogan Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 10:37 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Distributor Performance Is there any performance advantage of a Ford dual point distributor over a Pertronix electronically triggered distributor. There certainly can't be a maintenance advantage to a dual point, so is a dual point's firing worth it? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/wseay@embarqmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 10:09:16 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0B942584DF3 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 10:09:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oa0-f42.google.com (mail-oa0-f42.google.com [209.85.219.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACB02584B70 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 10:08:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id n16so10841272oag.15 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:09:40 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=T2AEvlGmjLPt1TkPuLG809+5737PuDWDEKWzP3YcpYI=; b=VTYafwMlPZDhY6YrT8cHAjbWMkb8y2rzFIp76dEOfhAZOBf5msuDT0c4YpeNk2SKG2 veqem0vDi+kkCcEtGdA6Kkqjn1U2uWHvLpTgP5+iax3fb5UnevFEXdJt/ksCxRHNmA4Y HN80xeCWMh0UbfZjHUVXCPWh/26kkfEfoKFt+DAU3BhL72imjSPIC7jErYl0UUTq4vA/ cOaO1Jj6Cj1TYWKLnuAB8fDPdHObOPMfDQEtDDE217SLjN2sh/iDjHKIQqckXaYnE99H HBy3isffi4ONKA8ShPlc6mMME7+FP9qKepiF+zEoiTLxVrrf3vkbvIMq6d/RQ5VY5y9f RvGQ== Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:09:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.86.41 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:09:40 -0700 (PDT) References: <2072F56E98A3424BA8580E379A8AC53C@PCWin7> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:09:40 -0700 From: Bob Josten To: wseay Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor Performance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net What about installing the Pertronix setup in a dual point distributor? Bob J. On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:11 AM, wseay wrote: > The objective of the dual-point distributor is to increase dwell to get a > larger spark. With the Pertronix you get the increased dwell with none of > the disadvantages of the mechanical point set in the dual-point setup. > There is one potential advantage to the dual-point distributor that you > might want to consider though. The dual-point distributor is set up to > optimize performance. As such, it has no vacuum advance and, presumably, > has a mechanical advance curve which is intended for maximum performance > rather than the best compromise between economy (i.e. with vacuum advance) > and performance. If you install a Pertronix unit you will retain the stock > vacuum and mechanical advance which should provide the best > economy/performance compromise. If you want the combined advantage of low > maintenance from the Pertronix and optimal performance from the dual-point > you can install a Pertronix unit, disconnect the vacuum advance and diddle > with the mechanical advance. > > > Will Seay - wseay@embarqmail.com > ______________________________ > "I think not therefore I am not" (anon) > -----Original Message----- From: Robert D. Hogan > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 10:37 AM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Distributor Performance > > > Is there any performance advantage of a Ford dual point distributor over a > Pertronix electronically triggered distributor. There certainly can't be > a maintenance advantage to a dual point, so is a dual point's firing worth > it? > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/wseay@ > embarqmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/bob@rjosten.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 10:53:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A392B2584DCD for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 10:53:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-35.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03DAC258457E for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 10:53:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004961.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7PGsv5U024275 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:57:09 -0700 Received: by dm0225.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 40189172) id dm0225.53e13539.126417; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 09:52:49 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Bob Josten'" , "'wseay'" Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:52:38 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac/AfwEqRPcJuqGLR8WTlYKUrCVj8wABE1wg engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.27,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-08-25_04:2014-08-25,2014-08-25,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1408250221 Cc: 'Tiger's Den' Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor Performance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Bob Pertronix lists a unit for dual point distributors and it probably provides a very stable dwell time. This part will take some of the maintenance out of the distributor. The question becomes what dwell time does the Pertronix unit provide? Single point systems have 26 - 29 degrees dwell Dual point systems have 30 - 33 degrees dwell Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Josten Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 12:10 PM To: wseay Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor Performance What about installing the Pertronix setup in a dual point distributor? Bob J. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 11:21:47 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F642584D89 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:21:47 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mx0b-00176a03.pphosted.com (mx0b-00176a03.pphosted.com [67.231.157.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 324702584706 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:21:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0048299.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0048299.ppops.net-00176a03. (8.14.7/8.14.7) with SMTP id s7PHJCew006171 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:22:13 -0400 Received: from cinmlip14.e2k.ad.ge.com (n165-156-000-000.static.ge.com [165.156.4.1] (may be forged)) by m0048299.ppops.net-00176a03. with ESMTP id 1p08h4r89b-1 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:22:12 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO ALPMBHT04.e2k.ad.ge.com) ([3.159.19.197]) by cinmlip14.e2k.ad.ge.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 25 Aug 2014 13:17:42 -0400 Received: from ALPURTP02.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.16.201) by ALPMBHT04.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.19.197) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.195.1; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:22:11 -0400 Received: from CINURCNA17.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.212.154) by ALPURTP02.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.16.201) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.174.1; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:22:11 -0400 Received: from CINURCNA16.e2k.ad.ge.com ([169.254.4.27]) by CINURCNA17.e2k.ad.ge.com ([169.254.5.73]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 13:22:10 -0400 From: "Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light)" To: "Tiger's Den" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Distributor Performance Thread-Index: AQHPwH8MgAyBcV2px0Oj+Q5nNEqiEZvhisxw Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 17:22:09 +0000 References: <2072F56E98A3424BA8580E379A8AC53C@PCWin7> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [3.159.212.186] engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.27,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-08-25_04:2014-08-25,2014-08-25,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1408250228 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor Performance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I've been running a Pertronix Ignitor II in a dual-point for many years on my 289 car and it has been stone reliable. This includes track day adventures. My 331 car has a complete Pertronix Flame-Thrower distributor running the later Pertronix Ignitor III ignition which has a built in rev limiter. As far as dwell, the technology monitors coil current and varies the dwell for maximum spark output across the RPM range unlike points (single or dual) which are fixed dwell. http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ig/ignitor3/default.aspx When we build a race-only engine then the more exotic MSD systems are used. The Pertronix are pretty much plug-and-play and a great choice for a mild street engine or if you want to keep the original distributor but get better performance. The Ignitor II for a non-vacuum Ford dual-point is model 91284 Bugz -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Josten Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 12:10 PM To: wseay Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor Performance What about installing the Pertronix setup in a dual point distributor? Bob J. On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:11 AM, wseay wrote: > The objective of the dual-point distributor is to increase dwell to > get a larger spark. With the Pertronix you get the increased dwell > with none of the disadvantages of the mechanical point set in the dual-point setup. > There is one potential advantage to the dual-point distributor that > you might want to consider though. The dual-point distributor is set > up to optimize performance. As such, it has no vacuum advance and, > presumably, has a mechanical advance curve which is intended for > maximum performance rather than the best compromise between economy > (i.e. with vacuum advance) and performance. If you install a > Pertronix unit you will retain the stock vacuum and mechanical advance > which should provide the best economy/performance compromise. If you > want the combined advantage of low maintenance from the Pertronix and > optimal performance from the dual-point you can install a Pertronix > unit, disconnect the vacuum advance and diddle with the mechanical advance. > > > Will Seay - wseay@embarqmail.com > ______________________________ > "I think not therefore I am not" (anon) -----Original Message----- > From: Robert D. Hogan > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 10:37 AM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Distributor Performance > > > Is there any performance advantage of a Ford dual point distributor > over a Pertronix electronically triggered distributor. There > certainly can't be a maintenance advantage to a dual point, so is a > dual point's firing worth it? > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/wseay@ > embarqmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/bob@rjosten.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mark.rense@ge.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 12:12:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD3B2584E0A for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:12:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f47.google.com (mail-oi0-f47.google.com [209.85.218.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E728F2584607 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 12:12:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f47.google.com with SMTP id x69so9886744oia.20 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:13:20 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=5cwjZcCCSwYu5Fm9OIL2ZVKwFPy6o8oZGN8Dcgr6e6E=; b=OxE/FBg4A0Cm3ZcoIXoeIuxK8Nh5AwG0StmR1OyLvlW93iHJ8TcyI4L47LJzYehRyl ywQS7XSYcLt4SOSEKSnhbizVXubDw97AMEZuVj9O3lQadkk/rLph0yUZtWjwGBAXHVhd rUM9SC+L0Pn+pJcUOm47hs5OQ2BSBoedPnoeEiVxgiWnM4IlQTQFDbwGwjJ5c4PsGAg4 MHY9G7gUIisQDlmNE76BRmx+Ei6EvAn9DC9EZxgam2U2Y/hSPFQl4vEiMOupdTMnRV7I pzitIeW/DNICQwznMGtC5ihmHztbKxERLTzwOHMKngwYpl0ti8LzMatJdLMRBTD8MEcq 1Oig== g9mr3836489obf.75.1408990400127; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.86.41 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:13:19 -0700 (PDT) References: <2072F56E98A3424BA8580E379A8AC53C@PCWin7> <26805228D183EF4E9C6F4499BB55B05148B6834F@CINURCNA16.e2k.ad.ge.com> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 11:13:19 -0700 From: Bob Josten To: "Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light)" Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor Performance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Mark and Ron, I use Pertronix in a couple of my stock cars and also have the MSD box and distributor in my street tiger. I like both setups, both have been really reliable and it's really nice not having to think about gap and dwell. For my stock mk2 I was wondering about the merits of using Pertronix in my dual point distributor with only mechanical advance vs. using it in a stock distributor with vacuum/mechanical advance. I have a vintage dual point in there now and am using points. I just caravaned to and from the Historics from LA with another mk2 owner. He has the dual point with Pertronix ll I think. We both have stock 289's and I got about 21 mpg on the trip using points and my car drove great. I think I'll switch over to Pertronix with my dual point and see what the difference is. thanks Bob J. On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light) < mark.rense@ge.com> wrote: > I've been running a Pertronix Ignitor II in a dual-point for many years on > my > 289 car and it has been stone reliable. This includes track day > adventures. My > 331 car has a complete Pertronix Flame-Thrower distributor running the > later > Pertronix Ignitor III ignition which has a built in rev limiter. As far as > dwell, the technology monitors coil current and varies the dwell for > maximum > spark output across the RPM range unlike points (single or dual) which are > fixed dwell. > > http://www.pertronix.com/prod/ig/ignitor3/default.aspx > > When we build a race-only engine then the more exotic MSD systems are used. > The Pertronix are pretty much plug-and-play and a great choice for a mild > street engine or if you want to keep the original distributor but get > better > performance. > > The Ignitor II for a non-vacuum Ford dual-point is model 91284 > Bugz > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob > Josten > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 12:10 PM > To: wseay > Cc: Tiger's Den > Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor Performance > > What about installing the Pertronix setup in a dual point distributor? > Bob J. > > > On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 8:11 AM, wseay wrote: > > > The objective of the dual-point distributor is to increase dwell to > > get a larger spark. With the Pertronix you get the increased dwell > > with none of the disadvantages of the mechanical point set in the > dual-point > setup. > > There is one potential advantage to the dual-point distributor that > > you might want to consider though. The dual-point distributor is set > > up to optimize performance. As such, it has no vacuum advance and, > > presumably, has a mechanical advance curve which is intended for > > maximum performance rather than the best compromise between economy > > (i.e. with vacuum advance) and performance. If you install a > > Pertronix unit you will retain the stock vacuum and mechanical advance > > which should provide the best economy/performance compromise. If you > > want the combined advantage of low maintenance from the Pertronix and > > optimal performance from the dual-point you can install a Pertronix > > unit, disconnect the vacuum advance and diddle with the mechanical > advance. > > > > > > Will Seay - wseay@embarqmail.com > > ______________________________ > > "I think not therefore I am not" (anon) -----Original Message----- > > From: Robert D. Hogan > > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 10:37 AM > > To: tigers@autox.team.net > > Subject: [Tigers] Distributor Performance > > > > > > Is there any performance advantage of a Ford dual point distributor > > over a Pertronix electronically triggered distributor. There > > certainly can't be a maintenance advantage to a dual point, so is a > > dual point's firing worth it? > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/wseay@ > > embarqmail.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/bob@rjosten.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mark.rense@ge.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/bob@rjosten.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 14:25:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE6562580876 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:25:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo203.cox.net (eastrmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.218]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6E92580876 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:24:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo210 ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20140825202541.YIDE2658.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo210> for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:25:41 -0400 Received: from eastrmwml214 ([172.18.18.217]) by eastrmimpo210 with cox id j8Rh1o0034h0NJL018Rh89; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:25:41 -0400 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=UyHOC7Gu_PIA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zgmaBvWHmgON3iVEbZIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 204.61.12.74 by webmail.east.cox.net; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:25:41 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:25:41 -0400 From: To: tigers@autox.team.net Sensitivity: Normal Subject: [Tigers] Cowl braces Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hey, guys: Okay...I've finally gotten my engine compartment ready for painting, but I need clarification on a point before I proceed. On the subject of the cowl braces...were they installed in the cars when they were painted or were they painted separately and then installed? Where I'm going with this is I need to know whether or not the cowl brace bolt heads were painted, indicating that the braces were installed for the painting process, or were they natural, indicating that the braces were installed after the car was painted? I'm guessing they were painted after installation and that the bolts were painted as well but I want to make sure prior to painting my engine compartment. If indeed the braces were in place before they were painted, what did Rootes do when they installed the ballast resistor on one of the bolts on the passenger side brace? Did they just scratch up the existing paint on the bolt head or was that bolt installed later and left natural in finish? Thanks a million, Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Aug 25 14:32:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFC7B2584EE5 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:32:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d01.mx.aol.com (omr-d01.mx.aol.com [205.188.252.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248AB2580876 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 14:32:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mce02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mce02.mx.aol.com [172.29.27.208]) by omr-d01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 42B19700000AD; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:32:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mlc005c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mlc005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.211]) by mtaomg-mce02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 013D338000081; Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:32:47 -0400 (EDT) From: CoolVT@aol.com Full-name: CoolVT Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 16:32:46 -0400 (EDT) To: awtiger@cox.net, tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1408998767; bh=azO5rU2UzyK58xHrY9zl4avV8lean9sTxHf56fumdpI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sn4eIsHYsqjRjVM9HMgk+JXUOMf9bRm3FWaQzmg0QKB8KCYWV+Kq4yxn4vUvvIpg8 VhmeuoVvkVtYGu3u1TvKe7tjnJsztu0Nn1GBWb+UgSpn2qrQjrKbjyolVKYnDI1aiO 3n+c9da5OaT9d8IwDPEsTaNgN1wjSaXUv01hdAEI= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d1bd053fb9d6f6632 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Cowl braces Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net If indeed the braces were in place before they were painted, what did Rootes do when they installed the ballast resistor on one of the bolts on the passenger side brace? Did they just scratch up the existing paint on the bolt head or was that bolt installed later and left natural in finish? Andy, Now that is an interesting question. Mark L _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 26 01:27:48 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 734E42584909 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 01:27:48 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from dd16422.kasserver.com (dd16422.kasserver.com [85.13.137.105]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A778A25807A9 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 01:27:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from seiwert4 (unknown [213.198.91.88]) by dd16422.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id CA2926BC841; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 09:28:23 +0200 (CEST) From: "lists" To: "Robert D. Hogan" Date: 26 Aug 2014 09:28:23 +0200 Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor Performance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net You might consider a 123ignition system, which gives you the advantage of not having to adjust points and being able to implement 2 advance curves (centrifugal and vacuum 2 each) and 2 rev limiters via laptop/notebook and USB-cable. A co-driver can even adjust the curve while driving with a notebook on his knees and you can switch between the 2 (inside the dizzy) stored curves with a simple switch while driving. Have a look here: http://www.brits-n-pieces.com/products/123tune-distributor.aspx We are specialized on adapting 123ignition and 123tune distributors to nearly all engines. Best regards Eric bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb from Robert D. Hogan [robertdhogan@gmail.com] to tigers@autox.team.net cc date 2014/25/08 04:38:12pm ref [Tigers] Distributor Performance bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb Is there any performance advantage of a Ford dual point distributor over a Pertronix electronically triggered distributor. There certainly can't be a maintenance advantage to a dual point, so is a dual point's firing worth it? . _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 26 08:39:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B8A2585012 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 08:39:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2lp0204.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4306E2580994 for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 08:39:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BN1PR04CA001.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.197.11) by BN1PR04MB171.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.255.204.146) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1010.18; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:39:58 +0000 Received: from BY2FFO11FD022.protection.gbl (2a01:111:f400:7c0c::143) by BN1PR04CA001.outlook.office365.com (2a01:111:e400:400::11) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1015.19 via Frontend Transport; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:39:57 +0000 Received: from garmin.com (204.77.163.247) by BY2FFO11FD022.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.1.15.211) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1010.11 via Frontend Transport; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:39:57 +0000 Received: from OLAWPA-EXHT03.ad.garmin.com (10.5.32.181) by edgetransport.garmin.com (192.168.18.224) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.195.1; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 09:37:01 -0500 Received: from OLAWPA-EXMB05.ad.garmin.com ([169.254.6.134]) by OLAWPA-EXHT03.ad.garmin.com ([10.5.32.181]) with mapi id 14.03.0181.006; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 09:39:52 -0500 From: "Smit, Theo" To: lists Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Distributor Performance Thread-Index: AQHPwP9R9Kl5LnLwNUWlKNNWRW9xIZvi5GqA Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:39:51 +0000 References: <20140826072823.CA2926BC841@dd16422.kasserver.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.1.140326 x-originating-ip: [10.5.143.129] Content-ID: <252CC2C8B80BD64A964D17CBFECB3E31@garmin.com> SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(438002)(199003)(377424004)(51704005)(24454002)(36304003)(479174003)(189002)(377454003)(86362001)(85852003)(54356999)(64706001)(68736004)(97736001)(74502001)(85306004)(81542001)(4396001)(21086002)(83072002)(92726001)(80022001)(47776003)(50986999)(90102001)(84676001)(20776003)(81342001)(99396002)(83322001)(16796002)(110136001)(81156004)(40036004)(77096002)(95666004)(21056001)(106466001)(79102001)(23676002)(15975445006)(92566001)(106116001)(31966008)(83506001)(107046002)(6806004)(74662001)(19580405001)(19580395003)(77982001)(36756003)(87936001)(76176999)(44976005)(46102001)(2656002)(50466002)(15202345003)(569394003); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BN1PR04MB171; H:garmin.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoDomainNonexistent; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; Received-SPF: Pass (protection.outlook.com: domain of garmin.com designates 204.77.163.247 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=204.77.163.247; helo=garmin.com; Authentication-Results: spf=pass (sender IP is 204.77.163.247) smtp.mailfrom=Theo.Smit@garmin.com; Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor Performance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Cool product, but when will you have one that works with a Ford distributor? If anyone is interested I have a MSD E-curve distributor sitting in my garage, new in the box - likely I wonbt ever use it. Has a vacuum sensor and internal dial-a-curve controls. $200 plus shipping from Calgary. Theo On 2014-08-26, 1:28 AM, "lists" wrote: >You might consider a 123ignition system, which gives you the advantage of >not having to adjust points and being able to implement 2 advance curves >(centrifugal and vacuum 2 each) and 2 rev limiters via laptop/notebook >and USB-cable. A co-driver can even adjust the curve while driving with a >notebook on his knees and you can switch between the 2 (inside the dizzy) >stored curves with a simple switch while driving. > >Have a look here: >http://www.brits-n-pieces.com/products/123tune-distributor.aspx > >We are specialized on adapting 123ignition and 123tune distributors to >nearly all engines. > >Best regards >Eric > >b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b? >b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b? >from Robert D. Hogan [robertdhogan@gmail.com] >to tigers@autox.team.net >cc >date 2014/25/08 04:38:12pm >ref [Tigers] Distributor Performance >b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b? >b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b?b? >Is there any performance advantage of a Ford dual point distributor over a >Pertronix electronically triggered distributor. There certainly can't be >a maintenance advantage to a dual point, so is a dual point's firing worth >it? > >. >_______________________________________________ > >tigers@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/theo.smit@garmin.com > > ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete the message. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this communication (including attachments) by someone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Thank you. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Aug 26 09:11:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D8BD258452A for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 09:11:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-36.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2196258087C for ; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 09:11:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004960.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7QFBoWc006111; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 08:12:12 -0700 Received: by dm0224.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 401892ac) id dm0224.53e13534.150688; Tue, 26 Aug 2014 08:12:10 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Bob Josten'" , "'Rense, Mark \(GE, Appl & Light\)'" Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 11:11:26 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac/AkEYLsB32GVO7RVedD/avHmQwpAArh3Eg engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.27,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-08-26_06:2014-08-26,2014-08-26,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1408260173 Cc: 'Tiger's Den' Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor Performance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Bob I agree the Pertronix has been very reliable. I think I installed mine about 1980. Mechanical advance is for performance Vacuum advance gives you economy on the highway Ford has what I call 2 styles of distributor; early style has an oil port, later style has a tri lobe center section. The early style has wear points at the advance weights which can hang up the advance curve. The later style eliminated those wear points and has a smoother advance curve. My thoughts are that everyone should check their advance curve so they know the distributor is advancing correctly. I like more MPG so I'm sticking with the stock distributor with vacuum advance. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Josten Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 2:13 PM To: Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light) Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor Performance Hi Mark and Ron, I use Pertronix in a couple of my stock cars and also have the MSD box and distributor in my street tiger. I like both setups, both have been really reliable and it's really nice not having to think about gap and dwell. For my stock mk2 I was wondering about the merits of using Pertronix in my dual point distributor with only mechanical advance vs. using it in a stock distributor with vacuum/mechanical advance. I have a vintage dual point in there now and am using points. I just caravaned to and from the Historics from LA with another mk2 owner. He has the dual point with Pertronix ll I think. We both have stock 289's and I got about 21 mpg on the trip using points and my car drove great. I think I'll switch over to Pertronix with my dual point and see what the difference is. thanks Bob J. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Aug 27 01:18:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A053258091A for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 01:18:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from dd16422.kasserver.com (dd16422.kasserver.com [85.13.137.105]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE2DC258091A for ; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 01:18:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from seiwert4 (unknown [213.198.91.88]) by dd16422.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B68196BC0D7; Wed, 27 Aug 2014 09:19:33 +0200 (CEST) From: "lists" To: "Smit, Theo" Date: 27 Aug 2014 09:19:33 +0200 Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor Performance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Theo, we already have one working with Ford distributors. If interested call us. Phone number is on our website www.brits-n-pieces.com Regards Eric bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb from Smit, Theo [Theo.Smit@garmin.com] to lists[lists@brits-n-pieces.com] cc tigers@autox.team.net date 2014/26/08 04:42:26pm ref Re: [Tigers] Distributor Performance bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb Cool product, but when will you have one that works with a Ford distributor? If anyone is interested I have a MSD E-curve distributor sitting in my garage, new in the box - likely I wonbt ever use it. Has a vacuum sensor and internal dial-a-curve controls. $200 plus shipping from Calgary. Theo On 2014-08-26, 1:28 AM, "lists" wrote: >You might consider a 123ignition system, which gives you the advantage of >not having to adjust points and being able to implement 2 advance curves >(centrifugal and vacuum 2 each) and 2 rev limiters via laptop/notebook >and USB-cable. A co-driver can even adjust the curve while driving with a >notebook on his knees and you can switch between the 2 (inside the dizzy) >stored curves with a simple switch while driving. > >Have a look here: >http://www.brits-n-pieces.com/products/123tune-distributor.aspx > >We are specialized on adapting 123ignition and 123tune distributors to >nearly all engines. > >Best regards >Eric _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Aug 28 16:49:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6555A258495D for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:49:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp-out-01.shaw.ca (smtp-out-01.shaw.ca [64.59.136.137]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36EA52584598 for ; Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:49:38 -0600 (MDT) cv=OwXf4AQYS7J10u4+/2kpCX1VHJ+qeA/E1g375LKBsDQ= c=1 sm=1 a=SzT7UEoaOSIA:10 a=oNqG-qODgPIA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=88NxmroaIPmpBvoTM6QRPw==:17 a=F1pij9VTv3fSXkoxCNsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.100]) ([174.1.199.204]) by smtp-out-01.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 28 Aug 2014 16:50:22 -0600 From: Peter and Bonnie MacDonald Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 15:50:21 -0700 To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Recent Auction reaction?? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I was discussing the auction results with a local Tiger owner who is well connected in the car world. I was told that Peter Klutt, who owns Legendary Motor Cars in Ontario(of TV show fame) not only had a Mk 1 Tiger for sale($90,000?) but also acquired a MkII that was now for sale. Apparently, after the auctions in Monterey, they disappeared from his "cars for sale" list and has plans to take them to the next major auction. He is also advertising in the UK mags - if you bought the August Classic & Sports Car with the Mediterranean Blue Tiger on the cover, you will find his ad on pg 85. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Aug 29 07:02:05 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C541D258499E for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 07:02:05 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-d05.mx.aol.com (omr-d05.mx.aol.com [205.188.109.202]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0722D2580582 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 07:01:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mca01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mca01.mx.aol.com [172.26.221.79]) by omr-d05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 953E970040686 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 09:02:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mla005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mla005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.186.83]) by mtaomg-mca01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 19C6D38000081 for ; Fri, 29 Aug 2014 09:02:44 -0400 (EDT) From: CoolVT@aol.com Full-name: CoolVT Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 09:02:43 -0400 (EDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1409317364; bh=VW+TX9g06BuKeZ1SrqBiU7u3YnLkWoy6qh0peO9QHdE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pC7qZ/TvVCT8Y5dkuwvPABwhEqR68xqM7AVoCvhgCdMWg+new8+RJjuc0jlrzUugd whpvzh8Q6+E8xfsCrKAzK8FXGv9tUD2YKdD408nWThHaXnDZl2/RmlBb1wv7eYQCL0 fsFkUQFyBw6X9FoGLW93+omW11UMr/tMG1yGiqgc= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1add4f540079f47c94 Subject: [Tigers] Jiffy Lube Ad Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I'm looking at Jiffy Lube print ad. Looks like could be a green Alpine. Very little of the car showing so hard to be sure. Seems trunk lid and driver door are not fit too well. Anyone else seen it? Mark L _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 31 13:30:42 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57B7C2584618 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 13:30:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f43.google.com (mail-qg0-f43.google.com [209.85.192.43]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064E32580877 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 13:30:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id f51so4373957qge.16 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 12:32:55 -0700 (PDT) d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:from:content-type:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=zkn2PN9WFEjfakqYAVUkua5ELBle86Wl93+1O4wsxeg=; b=H1tYFNIyIgsmxdxuhoAF3U7f9J8vpIm7FE5hWyyuERaMkcABWJ8XEzkMpoI0efjFJG zCeQCWzkL9et4M+Bp0n91c93sGeYF3qaAp7Xb88qrjPyPynXKzVpKjfn6XY4g+LnG0x1 0YpSe/V9rn9vOQGQUqByapIMEzUczj9oiY7v3gnTeLPV6C3lYGHKMxHWa5AGsnMsM8Ru PXZ4o74zVRybro+ivwqnNYYkVY4cXoNmZZTFuY9gor5nv6dKPkfpytsG2Q9LBBxn1cC6 0eGxNx7ZsqSeGwna1TrG8FbRfaPH45YqY1Y763Co0NK1zQQz5ksKT8miVHCTLBcNzeHK bHOw== i9mr38795962qas.50.1409513575349; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 12:32:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.21] (75-131-168-95.dhcp.spbg.sc.charter.com. [75.131.168.95]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id l10sm19953130qai.4.2014.08.31.12.32.54 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 31 Aug 2014 12:32:54 -0700 (PDT) From: H B Elam Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 15:32:54 -0400 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Front coil spacers. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net When I dismantled B382002027 for strip & dip in 1983 I am sure there were spacers (insulators) on both front suspensions between the upper end of the coil springs and the cross member, as shown and described on pages MA & MA1 of the Rootes part manual, publication No. 6600992. Later when working on B382000471 I found no spacers. Since I had them, I put them in when the suspension went back together. To my uncalibrated eye the front end looks to ride higher than I like. So recently when reviewing the parts list I noticed this note for part number P.108521. "From B395000239 Std. and GT and B382000542." Does this mean that some 1A Tigers before B38000542 did not have the these (insulators) or am I just chasing my tail, again? Thanks, Harry Elam _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 31 14:32:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A15F2584D21 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:32:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-36.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03E3258084B for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:31:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004960.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s7VKVwH9004552; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 13:34:35 -0700 Received: by sj1-dm103.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 40189229) id sj1-dm103.53ff9c7a.2e526; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 13:34:34 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'H B Elam'" , Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:34:23 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac/FUnK8DMjaW9DrRBazy9XHfhiKKAABexEg engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.27,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-08-31_03:2014-08-29,2014-08-31,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1408310258 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Front coil spacers. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Harry I believe all Tigers have the spacers; this is normal practice for coil spring installation. I think you will also find that a stock Tiger will look high in the front; ground clearance and all that. When I installed my stock springs I used Mustang II spring insulators. They are about half the thickness of the stock Tiger one and a bit softer. I like the down in front look. Mustang II insulators - D4AA-5415-A Since Mustang II style suspension is big in the Hot Rod world, I should think those insulators would be easy to find but I don't know for sure. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of H B Elam Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 3:33 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Front coil spacers. When I dismantled B382002027 for strip & dip in 1983 I am sure there were spacers (insulators) on both front suspensions between the upper end of the coil springs and the cross member, as shown and described on pages MA & MA1 of the Rootes part manual, publication No. 6600992. Later when working on B382000471 I found no spacers. Since I had them, I put them in when the suspension went back together. To my uncalibrated eye the front end looks to ride higher than I like. So recently when reviewing the parts list I noticed this note for part number P.108521. "From B395000239 Std. and GT and B382000542." Does this mean that some 1A Tigers before B38000542 did not have the these (insulators) or am I just chasing my tail, again? Thanks, Harry Elam _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 31 14:40:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC4282584D74 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:40:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (omr-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.79]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73E22584D18 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:39:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mba02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mba02.mx.aol.com [172.26.133.112]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 0754A702CCAF4; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:41:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-lha04g.mail.aol.com (core-lha04.mail.aol.com [10.76.10.4]) by mtaomg-mba02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D3DD838000085; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:41:57 -0400 (EDT) References: To: harryb@elams.org, tigers@autox.team.net From: cmeinel464@aol.com Received: from 69.35.195.47 by webmail-m166.sysops.aol.com (64.12.78.185) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:41:57 -0400 Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 16:41:57 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1409517717; bh=X0NF8Obt4s6c4D9Yex/7GqdUTAr9u0/z/DPhg5ehk/s=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Rl31REh6AXLGFQc6S+3A1710PfGwuBkr2NSO0rEFF/fzIaUL3/XhT5EKPY2IMNrmx Ehyr1T+KDysiwrGmJFyfPDIvesaZV4hBcemw6MOlDnqjGkS47Ib/qCtdEpWPMUqBqK uQXiu+DYHgWXmNCDo1fydLzUNXMBtLp0BhqyhbWg= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a8570540388954dae Subject: Re: [Tigers] Front coil spacers. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Harry, All Tiger had upper coil spring insulators. Curt Classic Sunbeam Inc. -----Original Message----- From: H B Elam To: tigers Sent: Sun, Aug 31, 2014 3:33 pm Subject: [Tigers] Front coil spacers. When I dismantled B382002027 for strip & dip in 1983 I am sure there werespacers (insulators) on both front suspensions between the upper end of thecoil springs and the cross member, as shown and described on pages MA & MA1 ofthe Rootes part manual, publication No. 6600992. Later when working onB382000471 I found no spacers. Since I had them, I put them in when thesuspension went back together. To my uncalibrated eye the front end looks toride higher than I like. So recently when reviewing the parts list I noticedthis note for part number P.108521. "From B395000239 Std. and GT andB382000542." Does this mean that some 1A Tigers before B38000542 did not havethe these (insulators) or am I just chasing my tail, again?Thanks,Harry Elam_______________________________________________tigers@autox.team.netD onate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlArchive: http://www.team.net/forumsUnsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmeinel464@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Aug 31 14:41:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C342584D80 for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:41:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bl2lp0209.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.209]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDEFF2584D2A for ; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 14:40:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com (10.242.233.147) by BY2PR01MB555.prod.exchangelabs.com (10.141.145.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1015.19; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 20:43:20 +0000 Received: from BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com (10.242.233.147) by BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com (10.242.233.147) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1015.19; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 20:43:18 +0000 Received: from BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com ([10.242.233.147]) by BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com ([10.242.233.147]) with mapi id 15.00.1015.018; Sun, 31 Aug 2014 20:43:18 +0000 From: "Teepen, Jere" To: "" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Front coil spacers. Thread-Index: AQHPxVJtMRr+yi3Tek+OI3h6o7FIB5vrK0CAgAACfp8= Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2014 20:43:18 +0000 References: , <9F35C3BC4F25468B8A9852CA8BFD0232@ronpc1> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [174.237.37.229] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;UriScan:;UriScan:; x-forefront-prvs: 0320B28BE1 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(6009001)(199003)(189002)(24454002)(13464003)(51704005)(377454003)(19580405001)(86362001)(81542001)(36756003)(2656002)(19580395003)(76176999)(106116001)(83322001)(83716003)(46102001)(54356999)(31966008)(74662001)(106356001)(110136001)(82746002)(85306004)(99396002)(74502001)(50986999)(4396001)(87936001)(64706001)(92726001)(83072002)(80022001)(92566001)(76482001)(95666004)(107046002)(90102001)(81342001)(66066001)(105586002)(101416001)(79102001)(77982001)(85852003)(21056001)(15974865002)(33656002)(20776003)(104396001)(491001); DIR:OUT; SFP:; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2PR01MB156; H:BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; Cc: H B Elam , "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Front coil spacers. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Speedway Motors has them available. www.speedwaymotors.com They are no longer available from Ford. Jere Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 31, 2014, at 4:34 PM, " Ron Fraser" wrote: > > Harry > I believe all Tigers have the spacers; this is normal practice for > coil spring installation. I think you will also find that a stock Tiger > will look high in the front; ground clearance and all that. > > When I installed my stock springs I used Mustang II spring > insulators. They are about half the thickness of the stock Tiger one and a > bit softer. I like the down in front look. > > Mustang II insulators - D4AA-5415-A > > Since Mustang II style suspension is big in the Hot Rod world, I should > think those insulators would be easy to find but I don't know for sure. > > Ron Fraser > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of H B Elam > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 3:33 PM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] Front coil spacers. > > > When I dismantled B382002027 for strip & dip in 1983 I am sure there were > spacers (insulators) on both front suspensions between the upper end of the > coil springs and the cross member, as shown and described on pages MA & MA1 > of the Rootes part manual, publication No. 6600992. Later when working on > B382000471 I found no spacers. Since I had them, I put them in when the > suspension went back together. To my uncalibrated eye the front end looks to > ride higher than I like. So recently when reviewing the parts list I > noticed this note for part number P.108521. "From B395000239 Std. and GT and > B382000542." Does this mean that some 1A Tigers before B38000542 did not > have the these (insulators) or am I just chasing my tail, again? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net