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I will have a nice roll bar, fresh semi gloss black paint, over urethane
primer,  set of toyo RA1 tires,  205/60r13, half worn,  these are sticky,
won auto cross last united in the rain,  set of 185/60r13 almost new
sumitomos..looking to purchase a set of rear brakes complete from backing
plate to drum.clyde mclaughlin, B38 2001173
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Gentlemen- Any thoughts on the Griffen CU-00179 aluminum radiator and fan
combo cooling package? I have noticed a couple of scrapes on my existing
radiator (recored years ago with a thicker core). The fan has kissed the
radiator core and laid back the copper fins down to the tubes in a couple of
spots. My thinking is that the Griffen radiator with its narrower core (1-1/2
inches vs 2-1/2 on my existing radiator) and the narrow electric fan included
with the combo might be better. I would then eliminate the stock mechanical
fan and potentially gain back some room. Any thoughts? bBrad
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I have the Griffin Radiator but no experience with the combo electric fan. At least one other Tiger owner and I had problems with the radiator fabrication. The two side flanges for mounting to the body were welded on wrong. They should be offset from the front of the radiator, but they offset them in the wrong direction. If you order one make them agree upfront to take it back at their cost if they send you one with this problem and send you one made correctly. 

Also, be sure you specify that you want one with a drain plug. It seems they have two different sets of drawings for their Tiger radiator. Not knowing the difference, I went with the Racing Version. That version does not have a drain plug... Did not know that until I went to install the radiator. 

Gene 

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From: "Brad Huff" <huffb@southslope.net> 
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Subject: [Tigers] tiger radiator 

Gentlemen- Any thoughts on the Griffen CU-00179 aluminum radiator and fan 
combo cooling package? I have noticed a couple of scrapes on my existing 
radiator (recored years ago with a thicker core). The fan has kissed the 
radiator core and laid back the copper fins down to the tubes in a couple of 
spots. My thinking is that the Griffen radiator with its narrower core (1-1/2 
inches vs 2-1/2 on my existing radiator) and the narrow electric fan included 
with the combo might be better. I would then eliminate the stock mechanical 
fan and potentially gain back some room. Any thoughts? bBrad 
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I have a Griffin radiator in an etype jag,  works and fits perfectly,
quality is excellent,  clyde

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Subject: [Tigers] tiger radiator

Gentlemen- Any thoughts on the Griffen CU-00179 aluminum radiator and fan
combo cooling package? I have noticed a couple of scrapes on my existing
radiator (recored years ago with a thicker core). The fan has kissed the
radiator core and laid back the copper fins down to the tubes in a couple of
spots. My thinking is that the Griffen radiator with its narrower core
(1-1/2 inches vs 2-1/2 on my existing radiator) and the narrow electric fan
included with the combo might be better. I would then eliminate the stock
mechanical fan and potentially gain back some room. Any thoughts? bBrad


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I have the Griffin Radiator but no experience with the combo electric fan.
At least one other Tiger owner and I had problems with the radiator
fabrication. The two side flanges for mounting to the body were welded on
wrong. They should be offset from the front of the radiator, but they offset
them in the wrong direction. If you order one make them agree upfront to
take it back at their cost if they send you one with this problem and send
you one made correctly.

Also, be sure you specify that you want one with a drain plug. It seems they
have two different sets of drawings for their Tiger radiator. Not knowing
the difference, I went with the Racing Version. That version does not have a
drain plug... Did not know that until I went to install the radiator.

Gene

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From: "Brad Huff" <huffb@southslope.net>
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Subject: [Tigers] tiger radiator

Gentlemen- Any thoughts on the Griffen CU-00179 aluminum radiator and fan
combo cooling package? I have noticed a couple of scrapes on my existing
radiator (recored years ago with a thicker core). The fan has kissed the
radiator core and laid back the copper fins down to the tubes in a couple of
spots. My thinking is that the Griffen radiator with its narrower core
(1-1/2 inches vs 2-1/2 on my existing radiator) and the narrow electric fan
included with the combo might be better. I would then eliminate the stock
mechanical fan and potentially gain back some room. Any thoughts? bBrad
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Hello All

I
 hope someone can answer a few questions
 regarding the wedge shaped shims which should reside between the 
soft-top latches and the top's front bow. They were installed to improve
 alignment of the tongue on the latch with the receiver on the 
windshield headrail.

Anyone:

1) know where replacements can be purchased? SS doesn't carry them.
2) have an original from which you could supply dimensions or at least a pic or two?
3) have any tips on fabricating a replacement? Is there a look-a-like part or material that makes a     good starting point?
4) confirm whether these shims were installed under the latches of both soft and hard tops?

Thanks
Terry Packer9470018
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Terry
	This was a topic back in Jan this year. I'll have to look to see
what information is there.

Here is a note I wrote:

There is a shim listed in the Alpine Parts List in the SI & SII section; pg
YV11.
2201875	Shim - Toggle Catch

I don't see it listed anywhere else so no idea if it is a continuation part
beyond this point or if there is another part number for the shim used
later.

I did some searching through my parts piles and found 1.

It is a cast aluminum part.  Looks like they may have been cast in pairs
then cut across the thick part of the wedge.

1.32" x .79"
Wedge .128" to .045
2 slots - .24" x .485"

Ron Fraser


-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Terry
Packer
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 6:46 PM
To: TIGERS@AUTOX.TEAM.NET
Subject: [Tigers] Roof Latch Shims?


Hello All

I
 hope someone can answer a few questions
 regarding the wedge shaped shims which should reside between the
soft-top latches and the top's front bow. They were installed to improve
alignment of the tongue on the latch with the receiver on the
windshield headrail.

Anyone:

1) know where replacements can be purchased? SS doesn't carry them.
2) have an original from which you could supply dimensions or at least a pic
or two?
3) have any tips on fabricating a replacement? Is there a look-a-like part
or material that makes a     good starting point?
4) confirm whether these shims were installed under the latches of both soft
and hard tops?

Thanks
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I was just rummaging through some stuff in the garage and found one of these
shims.  I am certain I did not know that I had one in my possession...

If anyone would still like a photo, please let me know and I will send it.

Jere Teepen

-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Fraser
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2014 6:36 AM
To: 'Terry Packer'; TIGERS@AUTOX.TEAM.NET
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Roof Latch Shims?

Terry
	This was a topic back in Jan this year. I'll have to look to see what
information is there.

Here is a note I wrote:

There is a shim listed in the Alpine Parts List in the SI & SII section; pg
YV11.
2201875	Shim - Toggle Catch

I don't see it listed anywhere else so no idea if it is a continuation part
beyond this point or if there is another part number for the shim used later.

I did some searching through my parts piles and found 1.

It is a cast aluminum part.  Looks like they may have been cast in pairs then
cut across the thick part of the wedge.

1.32" x .79"
Wedge .128" to .045
2 slots - .24" x .485"

Ron Fraser


-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Terry Packer
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 6:46 PM
To: TIGERS@AUTOX.TEAM.NET
Subject: [Tigers] Roof Latch Shims?


Hello All

I
 hope someone can answer a few questions  regarding the wedge shaped shims
which should reside between the soft-top latches and the top's front bow. They
were installed to improve alignment of the tongue on the latch with the
receiver on the windshield headrail.

Anyone:

1) know where replacements can be purchased? SS doesn't carry them.
2) have an original from which you could supply dimensions or at least a pic
or two?
3) have any tips on fabricating a replacement? Is there a look-a-like part
or material that makes a     good starting point?
4) confirm whether these shims were installed under the latches of both soft
and hard tops?

Thanks
Terry Packer9470018 _______________________________________________
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Ron

Thanks so much for the dimension info and pictures. Just what the doctor ordered!

Terry



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To: 'Terry Packer' <packertl3@yahoo.com>; TIGERS@AUTOX.TEAM.NET 
Sent: Sunday, September 7, 2014 6:36 AM
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Roof Latch Shims?
 

Terry
    This was a topic back in Jan this year. I'll have to look to see
what information is there.

Here is a note I wrote:

There is a shim listed in the Alpine Parts List in the SI & SII section; pg
YV11.
2201875    Shim - Toggle Catch

I don't see it listed anywhere else so no idea if it is a continuation part
beyond this point or if there is another part number for the shim used
later.

I did some searching through my parts piles and found 1.

It is a cast aluminum part.  Looks like they may have been cast in pairs
then cut across the thick part of the wedge.

1.32" x .79"
Wedge .128" to .045
2 slots - .24" x .485"

Ron Fraser





-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Terry
Packer
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2014 6:46 PM
To: TIGERS@AUTOX.TEAM.NET
Subject: [Tigers] Roof Latch Shims?


Hello All

I
hope someone can answer a few questions
regarding the wedge shaped shims which should reside between the 
soft-top latches and the top's front bow. They were installed to improve
alignment of the tongue on the latch with the receiver on the 
windshield headrail.

Anyone:

1) know where replacements can be purchased? SS doesn't carry them.
2) have an original from which you could supply dimensions or at least a pic
or two?
3) have any tips on fabricating a replacement? Is there a look-a-like part
or material that makes a     good starting point?
4) confirm whether these shims were installed under the latches of both soft
and hard tops?

Thanks
Terry Packer9470018 _______________________________________________

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I also have a Griffin Radiator in a Chevy Musclecar.  Quality is
outstanding. I've had it for about 15 years. It cools a 520 horse
street machine that is infamously known for heating problems and has
never given me an ounce of trouble. That is also with a shrouded dual
electric fan setup from flexalite. I cant speak to fitment in the
Tiger, but I wouldn't hesitate to buy a Griffin product otherwise.

Cullen
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Hey Guys,
Please remind me of the dashboard lettering on the MkI and MkIA.
There are some beautiful replicas for sale and I want to make sure I get the lettering right.
The ebay examples have: Ign, Lights, Choke and Panel.
I don't think the choke belongs given the automatic choke on stock cars, correct?
Thanks as always,
B

Brian Glenn 
P.O. Box 578 
Julian, CA 92036-0578 
714.345.9883 

B9470208LRXFE GT 
B9471101LRXFE 
B9472615LRXFE 
B382000846LRXFE 
B382001212LRXFE 
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Brian
	The Choke is for the Alpine dash.

If you had a manual choke installed on your Tiger then one of those Alpine
dashes with the choke label could be a good option.

	All of the illustration in the Shop Manual and Parts Lists seem to
be the Alpine dash.  According to TBON "labeling only the Panel, Lights and
Wiper" were used on the Tiger Dash.

	I refinished my dashboard many years ago so I don't remember exactly
what was printed on the original dash.  I also believe there were a couple
of those small aluminum labels that fit under the switch nut.  I'll have to
look to see if I took 35mm pictures of my original dash configuration.

	I used these labels - Blower, Wiper, Ign, Lights, Panel and I also
included a non standard - Hazard label.

Looks like we need some pictures of original untouched Tiger dashes to see
what was original and if there were any changes to the configuration through
the Tiger build.

Ron Fraser


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Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 11:21 PM
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Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Dashboard Lettering


Hey Guys,
Please remind me of the dashboard lettering on the MkI and MkIA. There are
some beautiful replicas for sale and I want to make sure I get the lettering
right. The ebay examples have: Ign, Lights, Choke and Panel. I don't think
the choke belongs given the automatic choke on stock cars, correct? Thanks
as always, B

Brian Glenn
P.O. Box 578
Julian, CA 92036-0578
714.345.9883

B9470208LRXFE GT
B9471101LRXFE
B9472615LRXFE
B382000846LRXFE
B382001212LRXFE
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I still have my original instrument panel in the basement, and the white labeling is just for Wiper, Lights, and Panel. I'll try to send photos to Brian this morning of the panel.

Rande Bellman
Tiger IA #48
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I don't agree Ron.
Both B9470622 and B9470585 have the CHOKE label.
Maybe they ran out for a month and had to use Alpine dashes?
I don't know, but 2 out of 2 of my MKI Tigers have it.
585 is still the original dash, I could get a picture if
you want it.  622 was refinished by me in 1979 saving the
original veneer but I put on new lettering as close as I could
to the original.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
To: 'Brian Glenn' <ora_archy@yahoo.com>, 'Tiger's Den' <tigers@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 12:59:36 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Dashboard Lettering

Brian
	The Choke is for the Alpine dash.

If you had a manual choke installed on your Tiger then one of those Alpine
dashes with the choke label could be a good option.

	All of the illustration in the Shop Manual and Parts Lists seem to
be the Alpine dash.  According to TBON "labeling only the Panel, Lights and
Wiper" were used on the Tiger Dash.

	I refinished my dashboard many years ago so I don't remember exactly
what was printed on the original dash.  I also believe there were a couple
of those small aluminum labels that fit under the switch nut.  I'll have to
look to see if I took 35mm pictures of my original dash configuration.

	I used these labels - Blower, Wiper, Ign, Lights, Panel and I also
included a non standard - Hazard label.

Looks like we need some pictures of original untouched Tiger dashes to see
what was original and if there were any changes to the configuration through
the Tiger build.

Ron Fraser


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 11:21 PM
To: Tiger's Den
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Dashboard Lettering


Hey Guys,
Please remind me of the dashboard lettering on the MkI and MkIA. There are
some beautiful replicas for sale and I want to make sure I get the lettering
right. The ebay examples have: Ign, Lights, Choke and Panel. I don't think
the choke belongs given the automatic choke on stock cars, correct? Thanks
as always, B

Brian Glenn
P.O. Box 578
Julian, CA 92036-0578
714.345.9883

B9470208LRXFE GT
B9471101LRXFE
B9472615LRXFE
B382000846LRXFE
B382001212LRXFE
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Hello;
I have been following the discussion on the lettering of a Tiger dash.  So
is the question, what is lettered or what is the font used on the dash?

Last July we had a discussion on the font and 3 were specifically discussed;
Sanserif was one, another was Condensed Gothic RR white, and last was
Helvetica-Medium.  I went out and obtained both the Gothic and Helvitica in
6-8-10-12 t font, color is white of course.  The Gothic and Helvetica look
very similar.
Now if we are discussing what was labeled, perhaps this will help, or make
things worse.

In 1981, I had a 1965 Tiger with an original dash and the labeling was the
black ring on the blower placed all the way to the left on a left hand drive
vehicle.  The white labels already discussed were on the wipers, lights, and
panel.  Wipers were to the right of the windshield washer pump knob, the
light switch was to the right of the ignition switch (clock or blank next)
and the panel switch to the right of the clock opening and was the last
switch normally installed, might have a cigarette lighter above and to the
right..

My current Tiger is not labeled yet except for the Blower, but I have 2 of
the 3 fonts previously discussed on hand; now the question is do I get a new
dash or not and this is hampering things for me finishing.

Remember the 2 Bbl carb Tiger had an auto choke activated by a tube from the
passenger side exhaust manifold.  I do not any documentation on a manual
choke carb setup so I can neither confirm nor deny.

Jim McLaughlin
B382000175LRXFE

-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary
Winblad
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 9:55 AM
To: rfraser@bluefrog.com
Cc: 'Tiger's Den'
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Dashboard Lettering

I don't agree Ron.
Both B9470622 and B9470585 have the CHOKE label.
Maybe they ran out for a month and had to use Alpine dashes?
I don't know, but 2 out of 2 of my MKI Tigers have it.
585 is still the original dash, I could get a picture if
you want it.  622 was refinished by me in 1979 saving the
original veneer but I put on new lettering as close as I could
to the original.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
To: 'Brian Glenn' <ora_archy@yahoo.com>, 'Tiger's Den'
<tigers@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 12:59:36 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Dashboard Lettering

Brian
	The Choke is for the Alpine dash.

If you had a manual choke installed on your Tiger then one of those Alpine
dashes with the choke label could be a good option.

	All of the illustration in the Shop Manual and Parts Lists seem to
be the Alpine dash.  According to TBON "labeling only the Panel, Lights and
Wiper" were used on the Tiger Dash.

	I refinished my dashboard many years ago so I don't remember exactly
what was printed on the original dash.  I also believe there were a couple
of those small aluminum labels that fit under the switch nut.  I'll have to
look to see if I took 35mm pictures of my original dash configuration.

	I used these labels - Blower, Wiper, Ign, Lights, Panel and I also
included a non standard - Hazard label.

Looks like we need some pictures of original untouched Tiger dashes to see
what was original and if there were any changes to the configuration through
the Tiger build.

Ron Fraser


-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Glenn
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 11:21 PM
To: Tiger's Den
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Dashboard Lettering


Hey Guys,
Please remind me of the dashboard lettering on the MkI and MkIA. There are
some beautiful replicas for sale and I want to make sure I get the lettering
right. The ebay examples have: Ign, Lights, Choke and Panel. I don't think
the choke belongs given the automatic choke on stock cars, correct? Thanks
as always, B

Brian Glenn
P.O. Box 578
Julian, CA 92036-0578
714.345.9883

B9470208LRXFE GT
B9471101LRXFE
B9472615LRXFE
B382000846LRXFE
B382001212LRXFE
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Gary
	Excellent - there are more variants with the dash for the Tiger.
Like I stated we need to document all these variants.  TBON states the 1st
400 had the vinyl dash, an Alpine dash.  It would appear the Alpine dash was
used longer than that; a CHOKE label is really not needed for a Tiger.   The
Tiger specific dash was installed at some point.

	I see 22 instrument panel part numbers listed in the Parts Lists I
have from Alpine Series I to Tiger Mk II; half of them are LHD panels.  This
leaves a lot of room for using up older parts as necessary.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Dashboard Lettering


I don't agree Ron.
Both B9470622 and B9470585 have the CHOKE label.
Maybe they ran out for a month and had to use Alpine dashes?
I don't know, but 2 out of 2 of my MKI Tigers have it.
585 is still the original dash, I could get a picture if
you want it.  622 was refinished by me in 1979 saving the original veneer
but I put on new lettering as close as I could to the original. Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
To: 'Brian Glenn' <ora_archy@yahoo.com>, 'Tiger's Den'
<tigers@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 12:59:36 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Dashboard Lettering

Brian
	The Choke is for the Alpine dash.

If you had a manual choke installed on your Tiger then one of those Alpine
dashes with the choke label could be a good option.

	All of the illustration in the Shop Manual and Parts Lists seem to
be the Alpine dash.  According to TBON "labeling only the Panel, Lights and
Wiper" were used on the Tiger Dash.

	I refinished my dashboard many years ago so I don't remember exactly
what was printed on the original dash.  I also believe there were a couple
of those small aluminum labels that fit under the switch nut.  I'll have to
look to see if I took 35mm pictures of my original dash configuration.

	I used these labels - Blower, Wiper, Ign, Lights, Panel and I also
included a non standard - Hazard label.

Looks like we need some pictures of original untouched Tiger dashes to see
what was original and if there were any changes to the configuration through
the Tiger build.

Ron Fraser


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From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Glenn
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 11:21 PM
To: Tiger's Den
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Dashboard Lettering


Hey Guys,
Please remind me of the dashboard lettering on the MkI and MkIA. There are
some beautiful replicas for sale and I want to make sure I get the lettering
right. The ebay examples have: Ign, Lights, Choke and Panel. I don't think
the choke belongs given the automatic choke on stock cars, correct? Thanks
as always, B

Brian Glenn
P.O. Box 578
Julian, CA 92036-0578
714.345.9883

B9470208LRXFE GT
B9471101LRXFE
B9472615LRXFE
B382000846LRXFE
B382001212LRXFE
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 I have B9470149, will look tonight and see what is on the dash. Tim

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To: "'Gary Winblad'" <garywinblad@comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Dashboard Lettering
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 13:53:05 -0400

Gary
 Excellent - there are more variants with the dash for the Tiger.
Like I stated we need to document all these variants.  TBON states the 1st
400 had the vinyl dash, an Alpine dash.  It would appear the Alpine dash was
used longer than that; a CHOKE label is really not needed for a Tiger.   The
Tiger specific dash was installed at some point.

 I see 22 instrument panel part numbers listed in the Parts Lists I
have from Alpine Series I to Tiger Mk II; half of them are LHD panels.  This
leaves a lot of room for using up older parts as necessary.

Ron Fraser

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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Dashboard Lettering


I don't agree Ron.
Both B9470622 and B9470585 have the CHOKE label.
Maybe they ran out for a month and had to use Alpine dashes?
I don't know, but 2 out of 2 of my MKI Tigers have it.
585 is still the original dash, I could get a picture if
you want it.  622 was refinished by me in 1979 saving the original veneer
but I put on new lettering as close as I could to the original. Gary
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To: 'Brian Glenn' <ora_archy@yahoo.com>, 'Tiger's Den'
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Sent: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 12:59:36 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Dashboard Lettering

Brian
 The Choke is for the Alpine dash.

If you had a manual choke installed on your Tiger then one of those Alpine
dashes with the choke label could be a good option.

 All of the illustration in the Shop Manual and Parts Lists seem to
be the Alpine dash.  According to TBON "labeling only the Panel, Lights and
Wiper" were used on the Tiger Dash.

 I refinished my dashboard many years ago so I don't remember exactly
what was printed on the original dash.  I also believe there were a couple
of those small aluminum labels that fit under the switch nut.  I'll have to
look to see if I took 35mm pictures of my original dash configuration.

 I used these labels - Blower, Wiper, Ign, Lights, Panel and I also
included a non standard - Hazard label.

Looks like we need some pictures of original untouched Tiger dashes to see
what was original and if there were any changes to the configuration through
the Tiger build.

Ron Fraser


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From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Glenn
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 11:21 PM
To: Tiger's Den
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Dashboard Lettering


Hey Guys,
Please remind me of the dashboard lettering on the MkI and MkIA. There are
some beautiful replicas for sale and I want to make sure I get the lettering
right. The ebay examples have: Ign, Lights, Choke and Panel. I don't think
the choke belongs given the automatic choke on stock cars, correct? Thanks
as always, B

Brian Glenn
P.O. Box 578
Julian, CA 92036-0578
714.345.9883

B9470208LRXFE GT
B9471101LRXFE
B9472615LRXFE
B382000846LRXFE
B382001212LRXFE
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Trying to keep this email short...hahaSanserif (actually sans serif) isn't a
font, it's a typestyle and basically means "no serif". Helvetica is an example
of a sans-serif font since it has no little "do dads" called "serifs" on the
ascenders and descenders. A font like Times would be a serif font.Condensed
Gothic RR is a font designed/used by model railroad boys and girls (note the
RR designation), it is most likely based on Helvetica. It is available at
hobby shops and Walmart I believe.I looked at 1000s of fonts and never came up
with any one font that was exactly the same, so I am guessing the original
font is now just a memory in font history.When I was researching this I had a
number of people around the globe scan and even mail me pieces of their wooden
dashes. And we came up with a couple different styles that were very similar
if not basically the same. One problem is that 1960s silkscreening would have
been done by hand and isn't all that precise, if you also look at the Jaeger
gauges you will see also see variation from gauge to gauge. My theory is...By
the time the Tiger was released to the public the Rootes Group was in such
poor financial shape that the same company providing the Alpine wood dashes
would have provided the Tiger dashes also starting with the basic Alpine
form...and most likely even just pulling Alpine dashes from their stock to use
in Tigers. And since the goal was making money to stay in business, the dash
board people would just keep the assembly line rolling. I would think, they
would have had one big template with small screens (or several smaller
templates) that would have been pulled over the top of the wood dash on the
"assembly line" and off the guy doing the printing work would go.Over time the
screens would go gradually go bad and alter the look of the lettering, then
the screens would eventually be replaced. Also if it was a Friday or a Monday
perhaps the screen printer would miss putting on certain words or put the ink
on too light or too heavy.Here are a couple images of what I came up
with...they are kind of an average of what was provided to
me.http://www.breuhan.com/sunbeam/alllettering.gifhttp://www.breuhan.com/sunb
eam/heater.jpgThey are low resolution and are not great shots but they do give
you some idea of the look.Paul
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I hate Outlook...try it again....






Trying to keep this email short...haha

Sanserif (actually sans serif) isn't a font, it's a typestyle and basically
means "no serif". Helvetica is an example of a sans-serif font since it has no
little "do dads" called "serifs" on the ascenders and descenders. A font like
Times would be a serif font.

Condensed Gothic RR is a font designed/used by model railroad boys and girls
(note the RR designation), it is most likely based on Helvetica. It is
available at hobby shops and Walmart I believe.

I looked at 1000s of fonts and never came up with any one font that was
exactly the same, so I am guessing the original font is now just a memory in
font history.

When I was researching this I had a number of people around the globe scan and
even mail me pieces of their wooden dashes. And we came up with a couple
different styles that were very similar if not basically the same.

One problem is that 1960s silkscreening would have been done by hand and isn't
all that precise, if you also look at the Jaeger gauges you will see also see
variation from gauge to gauge.

My theory is...By the time the Tiger was released to the public the Rootes
Group was in such poor financial shape that the same company providing the
Alpine wood dashes would have provided the Tiger dashes also starting with the
basic Alpine form...and most likely even just pulling Alpine dashes from their
stock to use in Tigers.

And since the goal was making money to stay in business, the dash board people
would just keep the assembly line rolling.

I would think, they would have had one big template with small screens (or
several smaller templates) that would have been pulled over the top of the
wood dash on the "assembly line" and off the guy doing the printing work would
go.

Over time the screens would go gradually go bad and alter the look of the
lettering, then the screens would eventually be replaced. Also if it was a
Friday or a Monday perhaps the screen printer would miss putting on certain
words or put the ink on too light or too heavy.

Here are a couple images of what I came up with...they are kind of an average
of what was provided to me.

http://www.breuhan.com/sunbeam/alllettering.gif

http://www.breuhan.com/sunbeam/heater.jpg

They are low resolution and are not great shots but they do give you some idea
of the look.

Paul
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Considering the labels are for Lucas electrical devices, I'd be more
inclined to use Comic Sans MS...

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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Dashboard Lettering

Trying to keep this email short...haha

Sanserif (actually sans serif) isn't a font, it's a typestyle and basically
means "no serif". Helvetica is an example of a sans-serif font since it has
no little "do dads" called "serifs" on the ascenders and descenders. A font
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Message from Glenn Fukui:


Luxury Supercar Weekend 2014 50th Anniversary of the Sunbeam Tiger
sound off!!! Please check out You Tube Luxury Supercar 2014 Tigers.

For those non attendees, the Luxury Supercar Weekend 2014 invited
a Sunbeam Tiger class to celebrate the 50th Anniversary of the Sunbeam
Tigers. This weekend included world class exotic supercars and has become
the premier car show for Canada with the now famous Canadian Concours
dElegance.

Throughout the weekend different exotic car owners would start their cars
and rev their engines for the spectators. So, today (unsanctioned of
course), at 2:30 the Sunbeam Tiger owners started their engines and
revd them all together! Boy, did that get the crowds attention, most
people had never seen a Tiger before  let alone, not realizing what
big, powerful, noisy engines they had! They were all coming over in
disbelief. The Tigers fit in pretty well with the $300,000 exotics, lol!
What a fun weekend, sunshine included!

Thanks Nick for the great video!


Happy Tigering,
Glenn


Here is the link to the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WwtBFZtLdc

Peter
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From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf@mayfco.com>
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Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:53:14 -0700
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Ok, so I have been getting messages from the list owner saying I have
excessive bounces. And that my membership had been disabled until I fixed or
re-upped my membership. WTH?   That too many members had been getting
bounces from my email.  If so, how come someone didn't tell me that they
were not getting through to me, directly? So, will at least one of you try
and send me a test message and then send the bounce message to
larry.mayfield@mayfco.com  directly? That way I can at least try and figure
out what is going on..

 

Many thanks!

 

Larry

 

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204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed

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Test

Sent from somewhere.

> On Sep 12, 2014, at 9:54 PM, "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf@mayfco.com> wrote:
>
> Ok, so I have been getting messages from the list owner saying I have
> excessive bounces. And that my membership had been disabled until I fixed
or
> re-upped my membership. WTH?   That too many members had been getting
> bounces from my email.  If so, how come someone didn't tell me that they
> were not getting through to me, directly? So, will at least one of you try
> and send me a test message and then send the bounce message to
> larry.mayfield@mayfco.com  directly? That way I can at least try and figure
> out what is going on..
>
>
>
> Many thanks!
>
>
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> _________________________
> drmayf
> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
> 204.913 mph flying mile
> 210.779 mph exit speed
>
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Ok, some have indicated that they are receiving ok by sending me a short
test message. I think I may know what is wrong...I have been sending all my
email in html format and I suspect I should go back to plain text for all
autox.team.net traffic.  I'll try that and see what happens in the next few
days. 

Many thanks to those who responded and replied!!!

larry
-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry
Mayfield
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:53 PM
To: Tiger List
Subject: [Tigers] Help!

Ok, so I have been getting messages from the list owner saying I have
excessive bounces. And that my membership had been disabled until I fixed or
re-upped my membership. WTH?   That too many members had been getting
bounces from my email.  If so, how come someone didn't tell me that they
were not getting through to me, directly? So, will at least one of you try
and send me a test message and then send the bounce message to
larry.mayfield@mayfco.com  directly? That way I can at least try and figure
out what is going on..

 

Many thanks!

 

Larry

 

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204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed

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Ok, so everyone get this one in plain old fashioned text?  Send bounces to
larry.mayfield@autox.team.net please and that way I will know it is from a
bounce..

larry

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Larry:

You may recall back a year and half ago I had the same problem when I fired 
up my new Blackberry Z10 and discovered I couldn't access this List because 
it only sent text out in HTML...upon inquiry their Tech Line told me HTML 
was the way of the future and whatever service I was unable to access 
because of this, needed to get into the 21st Century!

Well, they have capitulated in the wake of the volley of complaints, and 
sent out an app to allow Z10 users to choose their preference. I can now 
reach this List with my 'Berry.

Glad you figured it out!

Dave



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf@mayfco.com>
To: "'Tiger List'" <tigers@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Help!


> Ok, some have indicated that they are receiving ok by sending me a short
> test message. I think I may know what is wrong...I have been sending all 
> my
> email in html format and I suspect I should go back to plain text for all
> autox.team.net traffic.  I'll try that and see what happens in the next 
> few
> days.
>
> Many thanks to those who responded and replied!!!
>
> larry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry
> Mayfield
> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 6:53 PM
> To: Tiger List
> Subject: [Tigers] Help!
>
> Ok, so I have been getting messages from the list owner saying I have
> excessive bounces. And that my membership had been disabled until I fixed 
> or
> re-upped my membership. WTH?   That too many members had been getting
> bounces from my email.  If so, how come someone didn't tell me that they
> were not getting through to me, directly? So, will at least one of you try
> and send me a test message and then send the bounce message to
> larry.mayfield@mayfco.com  directly? That way I can at least try and 
> figure
> out what is going on..
>
>
>
> Many thanks!
>
>
>
> Larry
>
>
>
> _________________________
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Got it!

Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone on the Rogers network.
  Original Message  
From: Larry Mayfield
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 11:18 PM
To: Tiger List
Subject: [Tigers] Plain Text Messages...

Ok, so everyone get this one in plain old fashioned text? Send bounces to
larry.mayfield@autox.team.net please and that way I will know it is from a
bounce..

larry

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Very nice looking Mk1A No price given...

Link

http://www.racingjunk.com/Sunbeam/182264776/1966-Sunbeam-Tiger.html

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Hey, Larry:

I haven't seen this car yet, but it is located in Oklahoma City and, since I
live in a suburb of OKC (Edmond), I am planning on getting down to look at
it.  A friend of mine who used to own a Tiger went to look at it but the
showroom it is in was locked up tighter than a drum.  He called the guy who
has it for sale but he must not have been in the mood to discuss it as he
wouldn't even price the car.  

If memory serves, this is the car that sold at an auction (Mecum, I think)
several years back for somewhere in the neighborhood of $162K.  I'm pretty
sure the current owner is not the guy who bought it an auction so who knows
what he's got sunk in it.  I'm sure he's looking for a pretty penny for it.
If I get a chance, I'll see if I can catch the guy there before long and
take a gander at it.  It's interesting, though...per Mapquest, this guy's
showroom is in the same building that used to house a radiator shop.  In
fact, I took the radiator out of my old Alpine vintage race car there for
repair.  They screwed it up royally and I ended up having to take it
somewhere else!!!!

Andy Walker


-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry
Mayfield
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 8:42 AM
To: Tiger List
Subject: [Tigers] Mk!A on Racing Junk

Very nice looking Mk1A No price given...

Link

http://www.racingjunk.com/Sunbeam/182264776/1966-Sunbeam-Tiger.html

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I'm not certain as to the change points and variants.  B9470334 (one of 
the first 400) had an original burl dash with no choke label, though all 
the others as mentioned stenciled in white.  It is possible it was 
changed before my ownership but I'd think it might have been unlikely 
especially as it doesn't have the choke label, indicating that it was at 
least a later Tiger dash.

--Alex Haugland
B9470334LRXFE


On 9/9/2014 10:53 AM, Ron Fraser wrote:
> Gary
> 	Excellent - there are more variants with the dash for the Tiger.
> Like I stated we need to document all these variants.  TBON states the 1st
> 400 had the vinyl dash, an Alpine dash.  It would appear the Alpine dash was
> used longer than that; a CHOKE label is really not needed for a Tiger.   The
> Tiger specific dash was installed at some point.
>
> 	I see 22 instrument panel part numbers listed in the Parts Lists I
> have from Alpine Series I to Tiger Mk II; half of them are LHD panels.  This
> leaves a lot of room for using up older parts as necessary.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Winblad [mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 10:55 AM
> To: rfraser@bluefrog.com
> Cc: 'Brian Glenn'; 'Tiger's Den'
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Dashboard Lettering
>
>
> I don't agree Ron.
> Both B9470622 and B9470585 have the CHOKE label.
> Maybe they ran out for a month and had to use Alpine dashes?
> I don't know, but 2 out of 2 of my MKI Tigers have it.
> 585 is still the original dash, I could get a picture if
> you want it.  622 was refinished by me in 1979 saving the original veneer
> but I put on new lettering as close as I could to the original. Gary
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
> To: 'Brian Glenn' <ora_archy@yahoo.com>, 'Tiger's Den'
> <tigers@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 12:59:36 -0000 (UTC)
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Dashboard Lettering
>
> Brian
> 	The Choke is for the Alpine dash.
>
> If you had a manual choke installed on your Tiger then one of those Alpine
> dashes with the choke label could be a good option.
>
> 	All of the illustration in the Shop Manual and Parts Lists seem to
> be the Alpine dash.  According to TBON "labeling only the Panel, Lights and
> Wiper" were used on the Tiger Dash.
>
> 	I refinished my dashboard many years ago so I don't remember exactly
> what was printed on the original dash.  I also believe there were a couple
> of those small aluminum labels that fit under the switch nut.  I'll have to
> look to see if I took 35mm pictures of my original dash configuration.
>
> 	I used these labels - Blower, Wiper, Ign, Lights, Panel and I also
> included a non standard - Hazard label.
>
> Looks like we need some pictures of original untouched Tiger dashes to see
> what was original and if there were any changes to the configuration through
> the Tiger build.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Glenn
> Sent: Monday, September 08, 2014 11:21 PM
> To: Tiger's Den
> Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Dashboard Lettering
>
>
> Hey Guys,
> Please remind me of the dashboard lettering on the MkI and MkIA. There are
> some beautiful replicas for sale and I want to make sure I get the lettering
> right. The ebay examples have: Ign, Lights, Choke and Panel. I don't think
> the choke belongs given the automatic choke on stock cars, correct? Thanks
> as always, B
>
> Brian Glenn
> P.O. Box 578
> Julian, CA 92036-0578
> 714.345.9883
>
> B9470208LRXFE GT
> B9471101LRXFE
> B9472615LRXFE
> B382000846LRXFE
> B382001212LRXFE
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That car was sold again at Mecum Monterey last month, also in the $150Kish range.
A guy in my neighborhood saw it there.. he thought it was the most prefect
Tiger he had ever seen and showed me pictures he took...  he IS a Firebird
guy though..
This car was the one that was discussed on this list as the most over-hyped
marketing jobs of all time.  They took the words from the TAC certificate
and made it sound like some factory super prototype race car that is worth
a lot of money...
Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Walker <awtiger@cox.net>
To: 'Larry Mayfield' <drmayf@mayfco.com>, 'Tiger List' <tigers@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 21:59:34 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mk!A on Racing Junk

Hey, Larry:

I haven't seen this car yet, but it is located in Oklahoma City and, since I
live in a suburb of OKC (Edmond), I am planning on getting down to look at
it.  A friend of mine who used to own a Tiger went to look at it but the
showroom it is in was locked up tighter than a drum.  He called the guy who
has it for sale but he must not have been in the mood to discuss it as he
wouldn't even price the car.  

If memory serves, this is the car that sold at an auction (Mecum, I think)
several years back for somewhere in the neighborhood of $162K.  I'm pretty
sure the current owner is not the guy who bought it an auction so who knows
what he's got sunk in it.  I'm sure he's looking for a pretty penny for it.
If I get a chance, I'll see if I can catch the guy there before long and
take a gander at it.  It's interesting, though...per Mapquest, this guy's
showroom is in the same building that used to house a radiator shop.  In
fact, I took the radiator out of my old Alpine vintage race car there for
repair.  They screwed it up royally and I ended up having to take it
somewhere else!!!!

Andy Walker


-----Original Message-----
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Mayfield
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 8:42 AM
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Subject: [Tigers] Mk!A on Racing Junk

Very nice looking Mk1A No price given...

Link

http://www.racingjunk.com/Sunbeam/182264776/1966-Sunbeam-Tiger.html

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Hi,

I just received my new reproduction air cleaner and it is beautiful.  Now my
question is what was the orginal style of nut that held the cleaner on (hex,
acorn, wing)?

Thanks,
Joe Brown
Arlington, TX
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Joe

9550040	Nut, 1/4" UNC	Air cleaner to stud
9067015	Washer, 1/4" plain

Looking at the Alpine Parts List in section ZY - I'm going to extrapolate
some here - 9550031 is a #10 UNC nut with no additional notes - I therefore
believe 9550040 is just a plain 1/4" nut.

I have not seen an original part or I was oblivious to the fact it was an
original part so I do not know exactly what part should be there.

I have seen a Nyloc nut used and there are some locking nuts out there that
are less obvious then the Nyloc.  I might ever use a little low strength
LocTite but there is some spring tension from just tightening the plain nut
down.

I have a wing nut with a metal/ rubber washer on my air cleaner.

Ron Fraser

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Hi,

I just received my new reproduction air cleaner and it is beautiful.  Now my
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Thanks,
Joe Brown
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B382000217
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fascinating. As a lifetime resident of OKC I can honestly say I have never
seen this car before. OKC is  big place but not usually so big that a car
like this can hide under the radar of a sunbeam lover active in the local
community. I am not in the market but I might have to contact the seller
and just ask if I can see the car.

Cullen
Alpine 260
TAC 840

On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Larry Mayfield <drmayf@mayfco.com> wrote:

> Very nice looking Mk1A No price given...
>
> Link
>
> http://www.racingjunk.com/Sunbeam/182264776/1966-Sunbeam-Tiger.html
>
> _________________________
> drmayf
> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
> 204.913 mph flying mile
> 210.779 mph exit speed
> _______________________________________________
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car was sold a few years back for 125.. was sold again at monterey auctions
2 weeks back for 150ish?

wonder if it was a fake bid.. or owners is trying to quick flip?

On 16 September 2014 00:01, Cullen McCann <cmccann1972@gmail.com> wrote:

> fascinating. As a lifetime resident of OKC I can honestly say I have never
> seen this car before. OKC is  big place but not usually so big that a car
> like this can hide under the radar of a sunbeam lover active in the local
> community. I am not in the market but I might have to contact the seller
> and just ask if I can see the car.
>
> Cullen
> Alpine 260
> TAC 840
>
> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Larry Mayfield <drmayf@mayfco.com> wrote:
>
> > Very nice looking Mk1A No price given...
> >
> > Link
> >
> > http://www.racingjunk.com/Sunbeam/182264776/1966-Sunbeam-Tiger.html
> >
> > _________________________
> > drmayf
> > Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
> > 204.913 mph flying mile
> > 210.779 mph exit speed
> > _______________________________________________
> >
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I will be going by to look at the car in a couple hours. just talked to the
owner...or I think actually the car is on consignment. Amazingly, the car
is in a specialty car garage less than 5 miles form my work. I had been by
this shop looking at his other inventory just a few weeks ago...a couple of
aston martins, a pantera, some mid -80s generation Ferraris. The tiger
wasn't there at the time, but apparently it is now. I plan to take all
sorts of cool pics, as best I can. I will report back with what I find out.

Cullen

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 11:07 AM, michael king <michael.s.king@gmail.com>
wrote:

> car was sold a few years back for 125.. was sold again at monterey
> auctions 2 weeks back for 150ish?
>
> wonder if it was a fake bid.. or owners is trying to quick flip?
>
> On 16 September 2014 00:01, Cullen McCann <cmccann1972@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> fascinating. As a lifetime resident of OKC I can honestly say I have never
>> seen this car before. OKC is  big place but not usually so big that a car
>> like this can hide under the radar of a sunbeam lover active in the local
>> community. I am not in the market but I might have to contact the seller
>> and just ask if I can see the car.
>>
>> Cullen
>> Alpine 260
>> TAC 840
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 8:41 AM, Larry Mayfield <drmayf@mayfco.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Very nice looking Mk1A No price given...
>> >
>> > Link
>> >
>> > http://www.racingjunk.com/Sunbeam/182264776/1966-Sunbeam-Tiger.html
>> >
>> > _________________________
>> > drmayf
>> > Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
>> > 204.913 mph flying mile
>> > 210.779 mph exit speed
>> > _______________________________________________
>> >
>> > tigers@autox.team.net
>> >
>> > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>>
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FWIW, My Mk1A, thrown together in the late summer or early fall of '66, has a wingnut and washer.  Of course, I'm owner #3, and #2 did a lot of "restoration" work on it...

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 They had a nut and washer (as stated), here is a factory photo of a MKII. Photo supplied by Jim D'Amelio


David Franchi


>________________________________
> From: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
>To: 'Joe Brown' <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>; tigers@autox.team.net 
>Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 6:36 AM
>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air Cleaner Nut
> 
>
>Joe
>
>9550040    Nut, 1/4" UNC    Air cleaner to stud
>9067015    Washer, 1/4" plain
>
>Looking at the Alpine Parts List in section ZY - I'm going to extrapolate
>some here - 9550031 is a #10 UNC nut with no additional notes - I therefore
>believe 9550040 is just a plain 1/4" nut.
>
>I have not seen an original part or I was oblivious to the fact it was an
>original part so I do not know exactly what part should be there.
>
>I have seen a Nyloc nut used and there are some locking nuts out there that
>are less obvious then the Nyloc.  I might ever use a little low strength
>LocTite but there is some spring tension from just tightening the plain nut
>down.
>
>I have a wing nut with a metal/ rubber washer on my air cleaner.
>
>Ron Fraser
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Brown
>Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:56 PM
>To: tigers@autox.team.net
>Subject: [Tigers] Air Cleaner Nut
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I just received my new reproduction air cleaner and it is beautiful.  Now my
>question is what was the orginal style of nut that held the cleaner on (hex,
>acorn, wing)?
>
>Thanks,
>Joe Brown
>Arlington, TX
>B382000217
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Might help if I added the photo.
They had a nut and washer (as stated), here is a factory photo of a MKII. Photo supplied by Jim D'Amelio

David Franchi

http://picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/12773325

________________________________
> From: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
>To: 'Joe Brown' <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>; tigers@autox.team.net 
>Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 6:36 AM
>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air Cleaner Nut
> 
>
>Joe
>
>9550040    Nut, 1/4" UNC    Air cleaner to stud
>9067015    Washer, 1/4" plain
>
>Looking at the Alpine Parts List in section ZY - I'm going to extrapolate
>some here - 9550031 is a #10 UNC nut with no additional notes - I therefore
>believe 9550040 is just a plain 1/4" nut.
>
>I have not seen an original part or I was oblivious to the fact it was an
>original part so I do not know exactly what part should be there.
>
>I have seen a Nyloc nut used and there are some locking nuts out there that
>are less obvious then the Nyloc.  I might ever use a little low strength
>LocTite but there is some spring tension from just tightening the plain nut
>down.
>
>I have a wing nut with a metal/ rubber washer on my air cleaner.
>
>Ron Fraser
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Brown
>Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:56 PM
>To: tigers@autox.team.net
>Subject: [Tigers] Air Cleaner Nut
>
>
>Hi,
>
>I just received my new reproduction air cleaner and it is beautiful.  Now my
>question is what was the orginal style of nut that held the cleaner on (hex,
>acorn, wing)?
>
>Thanks,
>Joe Brown
>Arlington, TX
>B382000217
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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 10:10:36 -0700
From: D or G at sbc <orr4sale@sbcglobal.net>
To: "rfraser@bluefrog.com" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>, 'Joe Brown'
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One more try.
http://pic100.picturetrail.com/VOL439/2051017/12773325/267896441.jpg



----- Original Message -----
> From: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
> To: 'Joe Brown' <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>; tigers@autox.team.net
> Cc: 
> Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 6:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Air Cleaner Nut
> 
> Joe
> 
> 9550040    Nut, 1/4" UNC    Air cleaner to stud
> 9067015    Washer, 1/4" plain
> 
> Looking at the Alpine Parts List in section ZY - I'm going to extrapolate
> some here - 9550031 is a #10 UNC nut with no additional notes - I therefore
> believe 9550040 is just a plain 1/4" nut.
> 
> I have not seen an original part or I was oblivious to the fact it was an
> original part so I do not know exactly what part should be there.
> 
> I have seen a Nyloc nut used and there are some locking nuts out there that
> are less obvious then the Nyloc.  I might ever use a little low strength
> LocTite but there is some spring tension from just tightening the plain nut
> down.
> 
> I have a wing nut with a metal/ rubber washer on my air cleaner.
> 
> Ron Fraser
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joe Brown
> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 10:56 PM
> To: tigers@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] Air Cleaner Nut
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I just received my new reproduction air cleaner and it is beautiful.  Now my
> question is what was the orginal style of nut that held the cleaner on (hex,
> acorn, wing)?
> 
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
> Arlington, TX
> B382000217
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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 13:43:27 -0700
From: Stephen Waybright <gswaybright@yahoo.com>
To: Cullen McCann <cmccann1972@gmail.com>, michael king
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Being a "tribute" to the Doane Spencer car, this seems a bit expensive @ $120k - $150k, depending on who built it and how tightly the details line up with the real thing... unless of course we're expecting any fully restored Tiger to now be upper $100s.

Anyone know who built it and to what level of detail to match the original. Did they have access to the real one?

Stephen Waybright


________________________________
 From: Cullen McCann <cmccann1972@gmail.com>
To: michael king <michael.s.king@gmail.com> 
Cc: Tiger List <tigers@autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mk!A on Racing Junk
 

I will be going by to look at the car in a couple hours. just talked to the
owner...or I think actually the car is on consignment. Amazingly, the car
is in a specialty car garage less than 5 miles form my work. I had been by
this shop looking at his other inventory just a few weeks ago...a couple of
aston martins, a pantera, some mid -80s generation Ferraris. The tiger
wasn't there at the time, but apparently it is now. I plan to take all
sorts of cool pics, as best I can. I will report back with what I find out.

Cullen
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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 16:24:33 -0500
From: Cullen McCann <cmccann1972@gmail.com>
To: Stephen Waybright <gswaybright@yahoo.com>
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I still haven't seen it in person. guy who runs the shop is playing phone
tag with me and im waiting for his call. on this note, I have never been in
the physical presence of the HSC 55 car...but I have lots of good pictures
of it and in my opinion ( I have learned to phrase my statements carefully)
this car here in okc appears to be built in the "inspiration of". I don't
think its accurate or intended to be that accurate down to that level. for
one thing, Dave Stones/ Doane Spencer car has a black dash, red engine bay
paint color etc. This "tribute" is black under the hood, has a metallic
dash, etc. I think its just supposed to be an inspiration of, with creative
liberties beyond that.

Cullen

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Stephen Waybright <gswaybright@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Being a "tribute" to the Doane Spencer car, this seems a bit expensive @
> $120k - $150k, depending on who built it and how tightly the details line
> up with the real thing... unless of course we're expecting any fully
> restored Tiger to now be upper $100s.
>
> Anyone know who built it and to what level of detail to match the
> original. Did they have access to the real one?
>
> Stephen Waybright
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Cullen McCann <cmccann1972@gmail.com>
> *To:* michael king <michael.s.king@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Tiger List <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 15, 2014 11:39 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Mk!A on Racing Junk
>
> I will be going by to look at the car in a couple hours. just talked to the
> owner...or I think actually the car is on consignment. Amazingly, the car
> is in a specialty car garage less than 5 miles form my work. I had been by
> this shop looking at his other inventory just a few weeks ago...a couple of
> aston martins, a pantera, some mid -80s generation Ferraris. The tiger
> wasn't there at the time, but apparently it is now. I plan to take all
> sorts of cool pics, as best I can. I will report back with what I find out.
>
> Cullen
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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 17:12:57 -0700
From: Stephen Waybright <gswaybright@yahoo.com>
To: Cullen McCann <cmccann1972@gmail.com>
Cc: Tiger List <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] MkIA on Racing Junk
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That being the case, there should be very little or no market premium paid due to the inspired tribute to HSC 55. Whoever sold it in the mid-$100k's sold very well for a racing "inspired" modified Tiger restoration that is otherwise of no historic significance.

Stephen Waybright


________________________________
 From: Cullen McCann <cmccann1972@gmail.com>
To: Stephen Waybright <gswaybright@yahoo.com> 
Cc: michael king <michael.s.king@gmail.com>; Tiger List <tigers@autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] MkIA on Racing Junk
 


I still haven't seen it in person. guy who runs the shop is playing phone tag with me and im waiting for his call. on this note, I have never been in the physical presence of the HSC 55 car...but I have lots of good pictures of it and in my opinion ( I have learned to phrase my statements carefully) this car here in okc appears to be built in the "inspiration of". I don't think its accurate or intended to be that accurate down to that level. for one thing, Dave Stones/ Doane Spencer car has a black dash, red engine bay paint color etc. This "tribute" is black under the hood, has a metallic dash, etc. I think its just supposed to be an inspiration of, with creative liberties beyond that.

Cullen




On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Stephen Waybright <gswaybright@yahoo.com> wrote:

Being a "tribute" to the Doane Spencer car, this seems a bit expensive @ $120k - $150k, depending on who built it and how tightly the details line up with the real thing... unless of course we're expecting any fully restored Tiger to now be upper $100s.
>
>
>Anyone know who built it and to what level of detail to match the original. Did they have access to the real one?
>
>
>Stephen Waybright
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Cullen McCann <cmccann1972@gmail.com>
>To: michael king <michael.s.king@gmail.com> 
>Cc: Tiger List <tigers@autox.team.net> 
>Sent: Monday, September 15, 2014 11:39 AM
>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mk!A on Racing Junk
> 
>
>I will be going by to look at the car in a couple hours. just talked to the
>owner...or I think actually the car is on consignment. Amazingly, the car
>is in a specialty car garage less than 5 miles form my work. I had been by
>this shop looking at his other inventory just a few weeks ago...a couple of
>aston martins, a pantera, some mid -80s generation Ferraris. The tiger
>wasn't there at the time, but apparently it is now. I plan to take all
>sorts of cool pics, as best I can. I will report back with what I find out.
>
>Cullen
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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 09:14:14 +0800
From: michael king <michael.s.king@gmail.com>
To: Stephen Waybright <gswaybright@yahoo.com>
Cc: Tiger List <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] MkIA on Racing Junk
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The car hs no race heritage etc... but it is a very well restored and
modified resto mod in the spirit of the 60's SCCA cars and indeed takes
many cues from the HSC car, tonneau, exhausts, hood and wing vents. It has
many other details like brake scoops up on the rear guards turned dash, Gt
stripes, replica 15" GT40/Corba Halibrands etc.

Its a big money car but would have cost big $ to build and obviously has
some appeal.

I really like it... and would do a few things different.. but its a custom
and not built for me... but would be happy to own it.

On 16 September 2014 08:12, Stephen Waybright <gswaybright@yahoo.com> wrote:

> That being the case, there should be very little or no market premium paid
> due to the inspired tribute to HSC 55. Whoever sold it in the mid-$100k's
> sold very well for a racing "inspired" modified Tiger restoration that is
> otherwise of no historic significance.
>
> Stephen Waybright
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Cullen McCann <cmccann1972@gmail.com>
> *To:* Stephen Waybright <gswaybright@yahoo.com>
> *Cc:* michael king <michael.s.king@gmail.com>; Tiger List <
> tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 15, 2014 4:24 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] MkIA on Racing Junk
>
> I still haven't seen it in person. guy who runs the shop is playing phone
> tag with me and im waiting for his call. on this note, I have never been in
> the physical presence of the HSC 55 car...but I have lots of good pictures
> of it and in my opinion ( I have learned to phrase my statements carefully)
> this car here in okc appears to be built in the "inspiration of". I don't
> think its accurate or intended to be that accurate down to that level. for
> one thing, Dave Stones/ Doane Spencer car has a black dash, red engine bay
> paint color etc. This "tribute" is black under the hood, has a metallic
> dash, etc. I think its just supposed to be an inspiration of, with creative
> liberties beyond that.
>
> Cullen
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Stephen Waybright <gswaybright@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> Being a "tribute" to the Doane Spencer car, this seems a bit expensive @
> $120k - $150k, depending on who built it and how tightly the details line
> up with the real thing... unless of course we're expecting any fully
> restored Tiger to now be upper $100s.
>
> Anyone know who built it and to what level of detail to match the
> original. Did they have access to the real one?
>
> Stephen Waybright
>   ------------------------------
>  *From:* Cullen McCann <cmccann1972@gmail.com>
> *To:* michael king <michael.s.king@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Tiger List <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 15, 2014 11:39 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Mk!A on Racing Junk
>
> I will be going by to look at the car in a couple hours. just talked to the
> owner...or I think actually the car is on consignment. Amazingly, the car
> is in a specialty car garage less than 5 miles form my work. I had been by
> this shop looking at his other inventory just a few weeks ago...a couple of
> aston martins, a pantera, some mid -80s generation Ferraris. The tiger
> wasn't there at the time, but apparently it is now. I plan to take all
> sorts of cool pics, as best I can. I will report back with what I find out.
>
> Cullen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Regards

Michael King
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I think this was meant for the list, not just me.

mjb.



-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	Tribute car #55
Date: 	Mon, 15 Sep 2014 19:14:24 -0700
From: 	snakebit289 <snakebit289@yahoo.com>




IIRC, Julian Balme in the UK has or had a tribute #55 that he raced there, and that he configured himself. I don't know how accurate a representation it is, but I remember it was not just a garage queen like, for instance, my Tiger.

Rande
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The mail logs on the server show:

Sep 16 00:06:10 autox postfix/smtp[7987]: 8ACEA2584BAA: host mx.mayfco.com[66.96.142.50] said: 552 ri901o02Q0NyJgq01i92bw Message fails DMARC verification. (in reply to end of DATA command)
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The problem is with mayfco.com.

mjb.
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On another list the subject of probe messages came up, related to the automatic
unsubscriptions.  Here's what I had to say about that.


These probe messages are legitimate. Basically it is the mailman list manager trying to make my life a little
easier. Those of you who use addresses affiliated in some manner with yahoo, aol, hotmail and comcast are most
likely to get them.  You can thank DMARC for that ( technical, no need to worry about not understanding. )

If you do get the probe message, that is a good thing. Mailman keeps track of all the bounces that come back
to the server. Once an address has a certain number of bounces it will send the probe message. If that bounces,
mailman removes you from the list. If the probe message doesn't bounce, it keeps you on the list and resets
your bounce count.

Back in the age of the dinosaurs when I first started doing this all subscribe, unsubscribe and bounce processing
was done by me, on an individual basis. Later on there were 15,000 subscribers on Team.Net. I can't imagine
doing all the subscription management by hand these days. Oh, and if you introduce yourself to me at an event and
I don't recognize the name, don't feel slighted.  Do YOU remember 15,000 people by name?

While the bounce processing is nice, that doesn't mean I have nothing to do.  Currently there are over 17,000
messages waiting for the administrator ( That's me ) to inspect and do the appropriate thing. And you probably
might think I am stretching the truth if I told you how many unread messages are currently in my bradakis.com
inbox.

I need to write up a FAQ about stuff like this. RealSoonNow.

mjb, overpaid and underworked sys admin.
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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 17:14:54 -0700
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Hello Jim

Would you please reply to me at packertl3@yahoo.com regarding a picture of a Tiger engine bay.

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I just got this from Hagerty, and its a short but fun read. Good publicity
I think though.

Cullen

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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 14:55:43 -0500
From: Cullen McCann <cmccann1972@gmail.com>
To: michael king <michael.s.king@gmail.com>
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ok guys, I did see the car in person a few minutes ago. Its really quite
stunning if you like custom tigers. Neat car. I took about 20 pictures and
crawled all around it as best I could without touching. don't know much
else to say but I do have the sellers name, car specifics and seller
contact info if anyone is interested. Do not know the asking price. He
acted if someone was interested just to call. Granted there is an ad and im
sure anyone could call.  Seller/Owner is also here in OKC.

Id post pictures but we can do that, so all I can tell you is, its purty.

Cullen
Alpine 260
TAC 840

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 8:14 PM, michael king <michael.s.king@gmail.com>
wrote:

> The car hs no race heritage etc... but it is a very well restored and
> modified resto mod in the spirit of the 60's SCCA cars and indeed takes
> many cues from the HSC car, tonneau, exhausts, hood and wing vents. It has
> many other details like brake scoops up on the rear guards turned dash, Gt
> stripes, replica 15" GT40/Corba Halibrands etc.
>
> Its a big money car but would have cost big $ to build and obviously has
> some appeal.
>
> I really like it... and would do a few things different.. but its a custom
> and not built for me... but would be happy to own it.
>
> On 16 September 2014 08:12, Stephen Waybright <gswaybright@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>> That being the case, there should be very little or no market premium
>> paid due to the inspired tribute to HSC 55. Whoever sold it in the
>> mid-$100k's sold very well for a racing "inspired" modified Tiger
>> restoration that is otherwise of no historic significance.
>>
>> Stephen Waybright
>>   ------------------------------
>>  *From:* Cullen McCann <cmccann1972@gmail.com>
>> *To:* Stephen Waybright <gswaybright@yahoo.com>
>> *Cc:* michael king <michael.s.king@gmail.com>; Tiger List <
>> tigers@autox.team.net>
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 15, 2014 4:24 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] MkIA on Racing Junk
>>
>> I still haven't seen it in person. guy who runs the shop is playing phone
>> tag with me and im waiting for his call. on this note, I have never been in
>> the physical presence of the HSC 55 car...but I have lots of good pictures
>> of it and in my opinion ( I have learned to phrase my statements carefully)
>> this car here in okc appears to be built in the "inspiration of". I don't
>> think its accurate or intended to be that accurate down to that level. for
>> one thing, Dave Stones/ Doane Spencer car has a black dash, red engine bay
>> paint color etc. This "tribute" is black under the hood, has a metallic
>> dash, etc. I think its just supposed to be an inspiration of, with creative
>> liberties beyond that.
>>
>> Cullen
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Stephen Waybright <gswaybright@yahoo.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>> Being a "tribute" to the Doane Spencer car, this seems a bit expensive @
>> $120k - $150k, depending on who built it and how tightly the details line
>> up with the real thing... unless of course we're expecting any fully
>> restored Tiger to now be upper $100s.
>>
>> Anyone know who built it and to what level of detail to match the
>> original. Did they have access to the real one?
>>
>> Stephen Waybright
>>   ------------------------------
>>  *From:* Cullen McCann <cmccann1972@gmail.com>
>> *To:* michael king <michael.s.king@gmail.com>
>> *Cc:* Tiger List <tigers@autox.team.net>
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 15, 2014 11:39 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Mk!A on Racing Junk
>>
>> I will be going by to look at the car in a couple hours. just talked to
>> the
>> owner...or I think actually the car is on consignment. Amazingly, the car
>> is in a specialty car garage less than 5 miles form my work. I had been by
>> this shop looking at his other inventory just a few weeks ago...a couple
>> of
>> aston martins, a pantera, some mid -80s generation Ferraris. The tiger
>> wasn't there at the time, but apparently it is now. I plan to take all
>> sorts of cool pics, as best I can. I will report back with what I find
>> out.
>>
>> Cullen
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Regards
>
> Michael King
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 16:22:54 -0400
From: Jim Sencindiver <jd.sencindiver@gmail.com>
To: Cullen McCann <cmccann1972@gmail.com>
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Cullen - Post them to Facebook on the Tiger page.

Keep on Tigering!
On Sep 17, 2014 3:57 PM, "Cullen McCann" <cmccann1972@gmail.com> wrote:

> ok guys, I did see the car in person a few minutes ago. Its really quite
> stunning if you like custom tigers. Neat car. I took about 20 pictures and
> crawled all around it as best I could without touching. don't know much
> else to say but I do have the sellers name, car specifics and seller
> contact info if anyone is interested. Do not know the asking price. He
> acted if someone was interested just to call. Granted there is an ad and im
> sure anyone could call.  Seller/Owner is also here in OKC.
>
> Id post pictures but we can do that, so all I can tell you is, its purty.
>
> Cullen
> Alpine 260
> TAC 840
>
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 8:14 PM, michael king <michael.s.king@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The car hs no race heritage etc... but it is a very well restored and
> > modified resto mod in the spirit of the 60's SCCA cars and indeed takes
> > many cues from the HSC car, tonneau, exhausts, hood and wing vents. It
> has
> > many other details like brake scoops up on the rear guards turned dash,
> Gt
> > stripes, replica 15" GT40/Corba Halibrands etc.
> >
> > Its a big money car but would have cost big $ to build and obviously has
> > some appeal.
> >
> > I really like it... and would do a few things different.. but its a
> custom
> > and not built for me... but would be happy to own it.
> >
> > On 16 September 2014 08:12, Stephen Waybright <gswaybright@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> That being the case, there should be very little or no market premium
> >> paid due to the inspired tribute to HSC 55. Whoever sold it in the
> >> mid-$100k's sold very well for a racing "inspired" modified Tiger
> >> restoration that is otherwise of no historic significance.
> >>
> >> Stephen Waybright
> >>   ------------------------------
> >>  *From:* Cullen McCann <cmccann1972@gmail.com>
> >> *To:* Stephen Waybright <gswaybright@yahoo.com>
> >> *Cc:* michael king <michael.s.king@gmail.com>; Tiger List <
> >> tigers@autox.team.net>
> >> *Sent:* Monday, September 15, 2014 4:24 PM
> >> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] MkIA on Racing Junk
> >>
> >> I still haven't seen it in person. guy who runs the shop is playing
> phone
> >> tag with me and im waiting for his call. on this note, I have never
> been in
> >> the physical presence of the HSC 55 car...but I have lots of good
> pictures
> >> of it and in my opinion ( I have learned to phrase my statements
> carefully)
> >> this car here in okc appears to be built in the "inspiration of". I
> don't
> >> think its accurate or intended to be that accurate down to that level.
> for
> >> one thing, Dave Stones/ Doane Spencer car has a black dash, red engine
> bay
> >> paint color etc. This "tribute" is black under the hood, has a metallic
> >> dash, etc. I think its just supposed to be an inspiration of, with
> creative
> >> liberties beyond that.
> >>
> >> Cullen
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Stephen Waybright <
> gswaybright@yahoo.com
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Being a "tribute" to the Doane Spencer car, this seems a bit expensive @
> >> $120k - $150k, depending on who built it and how tightly the details
> line
> >> up with the real thing... unless of course we're expecting any fully
> >> restored Tiger to now be upper $100s.
> >>
> >> Anyone know who built it and to what level of detail to match the
> >> original. Did they have access to the real one?
> >>
> >> Stephen Waybright
> >>   ------------------------------
> >>  *From:* Cullen McCann <cmccann1972@gmail.com>
> >> *To:* michael king <michael.s.king@gmail.com>
> >> *Cc:* Tiger List <tigers@autox.team.net>
> >> *Sent:* Monday, September 15, 2014 11:39 AM
> >> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Mk!A on Racing Junk
> >>
> >> I will be going by to look at the car in a couple hours. just talked to
> >> the
> >> owner...or I think actually the car is on consignment. Amazingly, the
> car
> >> is in a specialty car garage less than 5 miles form my work. I had been
> by
> >> this shop looking at his other inventory just a few weeks ago...a couple
> >> of
> >> aston martins, a pantera, some mid -80s generation Ferraris. The tiger
> >> wasn't there at the time, but apparently it is now. I plan to take all
> >> sorts of cool pics, as best I can. I will report back with what I find
> >> out.
> >>
> >> Cullen
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> >
> > Michael King
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Cullen McCann wrote:

  post pictures but we can do that, so all I can tell you is, its purty.

I'm debating if I want to try resurrecting the Team.Net forums, where pictures are allowed.
They never have been very popular, even though many folks post in forums elsewhere.

I'll think about it.

mjb.
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Hello,
 
My flasher socket has disassembled itself. It currently is wrapped with  
black electrician's tape to keep the cap which holds in the wires with metal  
terminals in place. The body and cap appear to be made of a pressed fiber  
material.
 
What is supposed to hold this assembly together and where is it supposed to 
 go with the flasher?
I've replaced my dashboard and this was one item that apparently didn't get 
 put back from whence it came.
 
So, what holds it together?
Where is it supposed to go on a Tiger ?
 
Tod Brown, the baby seal-clubber from Maine has a junk Alpine and  he found 
it's socket to be screwed into the steering column bracket with a  
Phillips-headed bolt. And it appears in a photo to be different from mine  slightly 
(perhaps phenolic).
 
Hoping you are all well,
 
I remain,
 
Jim  Armstrong
382002083
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code 86
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Jim

This is what is listed in Alpine Parts List.

39611161	Screw, #6 UNC x 1"
9663092	Washer, #6, shake proof
9550011	Nut, #6 UNC

I believe I mounted mine to one of the metal extensions for dash support.

I would have to go look to give more details

Ron Fraser

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Hello,

My flasher socket has disassembled itself. It currently is wrapped with
black electrician's tape to keep the cap which holds in the wires with metal

terminals in place. The body and cap appear to be made of a pressed fiber
material.

What is supposed to hold this assembly together and where is it supposed to
 go with the flasher?
I've replaced my dashboard and this was one item that apparently didn't get
 put back from whence it came.

So, what holds it together?
Where is it supposed to go on a Tiger ?

Tod Brown, the baby seal-clubber from Maine has a junk Alpine and  he found
it's socket to be screwed into the steering column bracket with a
Phillips-headed bolt. And it appears in a photo to be different from mine
slightly
(perhaps phenolic).

Hoping you are all well,

I remain,

Jim  Armstrong
382002083
Mk 1A
code 86
TAC # I  forget
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From: "Howard gentry" <zymmer4@yahoo.com>
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 16:57:23 +0100
Subject: [Tigers] Vacation
 Misfortune....................................Howard Gentry
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Hello
This message is coming to you with great depression due to my state of
discomfort. I came down here to Donetsk, Ukraine with my family for a short
vacation but unfortunately, we were mugged and robbed at the park of the hotel
where we stayed. All cash, credit cards and cell phones were stolen off us but
we still have our lives and passports.
We've been to the embassy and the police here and they have done the best they
can. Our flight leaves in less than 12hrs from now but we are having problems
settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let us leave until we
settle the bills . I am contacting you to ask for a short loan which I will
refund immediately I get my family back home safely.
Let me know if you can help.
Zym
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Oh, no problem.  As soon as the money arrives from those nice people in 
Nigeria who are giving me millions (for free) I'll send the money right over 
to you in the Ukraine.


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Hello
This message is coming to you with great depression due to my state of
discomfort. I came down here to Donetsk, Ukraine with my family for a short
vacation but unfortunately, we were mugged and robbed at the park of the 
hotel
where we stayed. All cash, credit cards and cell phones were stolen off us 
but
we still have our lives and passports.
We've been to the embassy and the police here and they have done the best 
they
can. Our flight leaves in less than 12hrs from now but we are having 
problems
settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let us leave until we
settle the bills . I am contacting you to ask for a short loan which I will
refund immediately I get my family back home safely.
Let me know if you can help.
Zym
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Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 09:59:36 -0700
From: Gary <maliburevue@yahoo.com>
To: tigers@autox.team.net, Tom Witt <atwittsend@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Vacation Misfortune....................................
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Tom,

Just get those nice people in Ukraine in direct contact with those generous
people in Nigeria and avoid the middle man. I'm sure it would speed up the
process and they would greatly appreciate it.

Gary
--------------------------------------------
On Fri, 9/19/14, Tom Witt <atwittsend@verizon.net> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Vacation
Misfortune....................................
 To: tigers@autox.team.net
 Date: Friday, September 19, 2014, 9:08 AM

 Oh, no problem.  As soon as the
 money arrives from those nice people in
 Nigeria who are giving me millions (for free) I'll send the
 money right over
 to you in the Ukraine.


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 Hello
 This message is coming to you with great depression due to
 my state of
 discomfort. I came down here to Donetsk, Ukraine with my
 family for a short
 vacation but unfortunately, we were mugged and robbed at the
 park of the
 hotel
 where we stayed. All cash, credit cards and cell phones were
 stolen off us
 but
 we still have our lives and passports.
 We've been to the embassy and the police here and they have
 done the best
 they
 can. Our flight leaves in less than 12hrs from now but we
 are having
 problems
 settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let us
 leave until we
 settle the bills . I am contacting you to ask for a short
 loan which I will
 refund immediately I get my family back home safely.
 Let me know if you can help.
 Zym
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Send him an air cleaner nut!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Gary <maliburevue@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Tom,
>
> Just get those nice people in Ukraine in direct contact with those generous
> people in Nigeria and avoid the middle man. I'm sure it would speed up the
> process and they would greatly appreciate it.
>
> Gary
> --------------------------------------------
> On Fri, 9/19/14, Tom Witt <atwittsend@verizon.net> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Vacation
> Misfortune....................................
> To: tigers@autox.team.net
> Date: Friday, September 19, 2014, 9:08 AM
>
> Oh, no problem.  As soon as the
> money arrives from those nice people in
> Nigeria who are giving me millions (for free) I'll send the
> money right over
> to you in the Ukraine.
>
>
> - This mail is in HTML. Some elements may be ommited in
> plain text. -
>
> Hello
> This message is coming to you with great depression due to
> my state of
> discomfort. I came down here to Donetsk, Ukraine with my
> family for a short
> vacation but unfortunately, we were mugged and robbed at the
> park of the
> hotel
> where we stayed. All cash, credit cards and cell phones were
> stolen off us
> but
> we still have our lives and passports.
> We've been to the embassy and the police here and they have
> done the best
> they
> can. Our flight leaves in less than 12hrs from now but we
> are having
> problems
> settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let us
> leave until we
> settle the bills . I am contacting you to ask for a short
> loan which I will
> refund immediately I get my family back home safely.
> Let me know if you can help.
> Zym
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Here's a Tiger for sale in the Seattle area I came across on craigslist.
Don't know anything about it or who owns it.
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Ukraine kiss my American butt.
Wes in SoCal
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How stupid can you be to take vacation in that hell hole,  suck it up sucker
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I added another account to see if the "bounce" problem I apparently have on
Comcast will occur here as well.
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Sorry no link came through.  Look on yahoo news for the article on "The 10 Most Collectable Cars Right Now".  Guess what is on the list.................................
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And ........ ????


----- Original Message ----- 
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No, that doesn't work either, but I think I can guess....


On 9/25/2014 8:18 PM, Paul R Sheahan wrote:
> Sorry no link came through.  Look on yahoo news for the article on "The 10 Most Collectable Cars Right Now".  Guess what is on the list.................................
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Try this link, guys...

https://autos.yahoo.com/news/the-10-most-collectible-cars-right-now-18081515
5.html

Andy Walker
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Sorry no link came through.  Look on yahoo news for the article on "The 10
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See if this works.

http://www.details.com/culture-trends/cars/201409/collectible-cars





>________________________________
> From: Chris Thompson <chris@cthompson.net>
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>Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 5:36 PM
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>No, that doesn't work either, but I think I can guess....
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>On 9/25/2014 8:18 PM, Paul R Sheahan wrote:
>> Sorry no link came through.  Look on yahoo news for the article on "The 10 Most Collectable Cars Right Now".  Guess what is on the list.................................
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The 10 most collectible cars right now

  
             
The 10 most collectible cars right now
Collecting vintage cars is usually a high-stakes sport: A $38 million dollar bid on a rare Ferrari GTO set a record at the most recent Bonham's Auction. But you don...  
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So......that means that we won't hear howls of anguish about the price 
of parts--or original trim pieces--since the cars are now worth so much.

Right?
;-)

Best Regards
David Sosna



On 09/25/2014 06:43 PM, Andy Walker wrote:
> Try this link, guys...
>
> https://autos.yahoo.com/news/the-10-most-collectible-cars-right-now-18081515
> 5.html
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> Andy Walker
> Edmond, OK
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sorry no link came through.  Look on yahoo news for the article on "The 10
> Most Collectable Cars Right Now".  Guess what is on the
> list.................................
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Here is the link.  Hopefully it makes it through

https://autos.yahoo.com/news/the-10-most-collectible-cars-right-now-180815155.html


On Thursday, September 25, 2014 5:20 PM, Tony McNulty <bamcnulty@optonline.net> wrote:
 


And ........ ????


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