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Bill Waite Grand Rapids, MI _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 10:18:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9740E25852D2 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 10:18:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm46-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm46-vm6.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.87.174]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79CEE258460F for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 10:18:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm46.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2014 16:21:25 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.188] by nm46.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2014 16:18:41 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.174] by tm9.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2014 16:18:41 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.197] by tm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2014 16:18:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2014 16:18:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 81124 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Oct 2014 16:18:41 -0000 s=s1024; t=1412698721; bh=0UWDeHi+bILyYxZyQ34V4UEPEO5FKTFfieNZNvDaf1s=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kDbXX1ncz10zehZT64z5/VIjQD+Jx7FDDpykJCY1Mav9YjRcPOnPlH78wgVCyW8Jz6c04gjjNOxmafWSjerNZneLyyiyxGn2tuLs3TIsjm75+yxwC33y3v6LdLEYawKtFBjoBeHJtIjhYzSG+QUA4XFf+sF1xN9Ez4L9gYc1WXo= 5FA8DwRfq4W.jJbcOiEBV5xQt4NCAfl4oxoJzSZyiLMxm71q3cHxUe_MCdEH IeiUojAcP6q.GgatJvrJwOCTWRj_KjI8KXquX4llixXyBa_6XRZXIA0PX8Dp HJxSY3IFiY7cJ3K2vSfUGbGD9YJEiZuXE14VqH5k89LgMhkBswe07fQrU9ib fUwBASvxkQSDmgrva04J6WkbPQYuEHb3Tn05w27Nl8uR_39EOFoEMNyNYGdn EQvcqKOl8RPvu.Yp.JfjHjbHqF5jbBFOewfPlYnWe1ogE6enWtJ_2pQ_KVAA FGc_0N13aWbWZftaPDVxyfw4r4_lLp3fL_THbKb9elWGBR7MWPA4iEvwNFkh 8lvCcyAOGDyTFicrVSFJv3GYL4I_gr2tnlZKUw7dae9.8P74HDgLn1WbFRBD YQvYUQsW6RBZS5JH43Ebn3Y_SyZeJ55XYo7eitgJtukCaXesgeNQ0cZjzcZ0 T7ZVmBe.1apqmUS8U7CHRKPLkcyEJTZc9enIymWU- Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 09:18:40 PDT Q2hpY2FnbyBUaWdlciBvd25lciBEYXZlIEpvaG5zb24ncyBzb24sIFBhdHJpY2ssIGFubm91bmNlZCBvbiBGYWNlYm9vayB5ZXN0ZXJkYXkgdGhhdCBoaXMgZGFkIHBhc3NlZCBhd2F5IGxhc3Qgd2Vla2VuZC4KCllvdSdsbCByZW1lbWJlciB0aGF0IERhdmUgd2FzIGEgZnJlcXVlbnQgY29udHJpYnV0b3IgdG8gdGhpcyBUaWdlciBBdXRveCBzaXRlIGZvciB5ZWFycywgYnV0IHN1ZmZlcmVkIGEgc3Ryb2tlIHByaW9yIHRvIHRoZSAyMDExIFRFQUUgVW5pdGVkIGluIEZyZW5jaCBMaWNrLCBJbmRpYW5hLiBBIHIBMAEBAQE- Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:18:40 -0700 From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tigers - Dave Johnson Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Chicago Tiger owner Dave Johnson's son, Patrick, announced on Facebook yesterday that his dad passed away last weekend. You'll remember that Dave was a frequent contributor to this Tiger Autox site for years, but suffered a stroke prior to the 2011 TEAE United in French Lick, Indiana. A restoration of Dave's former Tiger was performed by Patrick and a friend in time for the United. Patrick and his mom took over Dave's role as chairman of the 2011 United when it was certain that Dave could no longer go to French Lick. All of his Tiger friends will miss Dave. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 12:06:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575C32585106 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 12:06:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo101.cox.net (fed1rmfepo101.cox.net [68.230.241.143]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DB425806FB for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 12:02:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo306 ([68.230.241.174]) by fed1rmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141007180537.HUH29651.fed1rmfepo101.cox.net@fed1rmimpo306> for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:05:37 -0400 Received: from fed1rmwml108 ([172.18.140.217]) by fed1rmimpo306 with cox id 0J5d1p00D4hdPEs01J5dyD; Tue, 07 Oct 2014 14:05:37 -0400 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=UyHOC7Gu_PIA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=zPkWp1uvJm9h47vvp08A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=wz0z58TtWn4js1T/E/HjJQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 204.61.12.74 by webmail.west.cox.net; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:05:37 -0400 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 14:05:37 -0400 From: To: "tigers@autox.team.net" , snakebit289 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers - Dave Johnson Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Very sorry to hear about Dave, Rande. I'll keep his family in my thoughts and prayers. Andy Walker Edmond, OK ---- snakebit289 wrote: > Chicago Tiger owner Dave Johnson's son, Patrick, announced on Facebook yesterday that his dad passed away last weekend. > > You'll remember that Dave was a frequent contributor to this Tiger Autox site for years, but suffered a stroke prior to the 2011 TEAE United in French Lick, Indiana. A restoration of Dave's former Tiger was performed by Patrick and a friend in time for the United. Patrick and his mom took over Dave's role as chairman of the 2011 United when it was certain that Dave could no longer go to French Lick. All of his Tiger friends will miss Dave. > > Rande Bellman > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/awtiger@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 12:33:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BED125848CC for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 12:33:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.140]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D7025806FA for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 12:25:00 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1412706486; bh=POtjKcGyIwF2p6b7BU4ZbJkxsWP5l33iyq2cdxoSLYw=; h=Received:Received:Received:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-YMail-OSG:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Length:From:Subject; b=K2pBSPraIS4DKeSmBDCTcL/J+rbrGYJ7ZzhiUV86IGBHO1YZR3vg5MDPyIMGrQkSs285U6dL05JVSHAe1DuSz2uCJiZRqiBDvjkTheS2CrjI4O4ixibWAarOcn19Nm5rVZtN2tdWV7g6lbuAJRyQg1Ay9up890AWzenNn9r1WzJb5Qy8dD0NHGzEI1YPbJHrpSfPO4tz9cCAcw9c/cJMhWc39Cp40Mrw3gMuff33HKhFR0WR1yj2ZLF8kyS7iHJMlLbjP6a3m9Y03k/7APB5dsWnKo1sRuIsHtLXBef1emTkoXoIX+4nAgpAwUo9+pBKUUpfgAAFWJGXZpw2aJy3mg== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=DnMZqD/3nG3JwwjlTWrhE1KFq8eRVIlcSvoUxo6KcuEjpJg/5X0ciYGeN4RZVOX4skKxHLCsA0gkzHMkVRe4RAnsC0p3O08mfMyEmgOzyqFX77teuoTU/g5nw8PILtKMpV9whCfQjiOCu3XuonFmVA6LWdurmnamfGlhpl+UfMf3UWxSaMtXoK54J7NepCUK8eOPGNANN73deKzDSEIFkhGZSO0c/8VodxGnXM6vySokx6ARUJmP/OkpbOzXwFVV7uyoexbzrKfEx8y8hYMtylX6HkRq8fu8EIsZAaYLPR9HnMGbh1KYjyBzMEAQTo3Jh4cq9B8No2uDwQhhqn5teQ==; Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2014 18:28:06 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.203] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2014 18:28:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1012.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 07 Oct 2014 18:28:06 -0000 Ck8zQb2np50HWTJf5wuuXajuS.zOM9w_UD4p7JjVRwCNSNVNHZYrq5DiBXbWJtkHM.hhLPdFSFHm MeD.kPCOB7szPzSsjRxYlf0fOdRtFgBUCnHKcxdCiajI2_ob2V8GdVEU2KLuADLvuMdWV73W3iz7 DAOvUG1.Ha5LIeqi1WPZlolpogRs8Swiit_pD17Qfal6w76p0WATBVHky.CK54Nop6ySb.xn5wRe 8iwqmRSoGGIOw31OWN7HXDxBRc52se9LNMWYSdeJUlRxHGkU.nRxBeelJaMQZ_fhnPOvBIX_8P3X uuhtV0DvvvfXi6zcyuLpU.RjiDmjOXc6XN3ZaWSqR_WyPkyNBngPRR1Nfc.e05B1kuCnM_KUiRSP 6a_66L.u8WA8gkt4TPXkDYQ0DWHXD3fbtcT8fq.kk0yHUQJBz7tDzDBvFbkTA_BipU61D04iOXZu 9eIOHs6iRxd_OweeW5om7Z2QDzyoyCMqPTPwhBnCWhyWW2vnfk1V0 Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 18:28:03 +0000 (UTC) From: Randy Zimmermann To: "awtiger@cox.net" , "tigers@autox.team.net" , snakebit289 References: <20141007140537.RUDM3.25394.imail@fed1rmwml108> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers - Dave Johnson Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net My condolences go to Patrick and his family at the passing of his father, Dave.B When I was looking to purchase a Tiger in 1993 and found one in a northern suburb of Chicago, Dave was a TEAE regional rep and I called him.B Over the course of a couple of phone calls, he talked me through what to look for in a Tiger and provided some information about the owner whom he had met a few times at British car gatherings in the area.B With his helpful information and encouragement, I drove down to Chicago from Minnesota and bought the Tiger. Second to asking my wife to marry me, it was the best decision I ever made. Sadly, I never got the chance to meet him in person and thank him for his support. May he rest in peace. Randy ZimmermannDuluth, MN On Tuesday, October 7, 2014 1:05 PM, "awtiger@cox.net" wrote: Very sorry to hear about Dave, Rande.B I'll keep his family in my thoughts and prayers. Andy Walker Edmond, OK ---- snakebit289 wrote: > Chicago Tiger owner Dave Johnson's son, Patrick, announced on Facebook yesterday that his dad passed away last weekend. > > You'll remember that Dave was a frequent contributor to this Tiger Autox site for years, but suffered a stroke prior to the 2011 TEAE United in French Lick, Indiana. A restoration of Dave's former Tiger was performed by Patrick and a friend in time for the United. Patrick and his mom took over Dave's role as chairman of the 2011 United when it was certain that Dave could no longer go to French Lick. All of his Tiger friends will miss Dave. > > Rande Bellman > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/awtiger@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/zimme008@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 7 19:21:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C35B82584647 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 19:21:57 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from BAY004-OMC3S18.hotmail.com (bay004-omc3s18.hotmail.com [65.54.190.156]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03568258097D for ; Tue, 7 Oct 2014 19:21:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY179-W4 ([65.54.190.187]) by BAY004-OMC3S18.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Tue, 7 Oct 2014 18:24:26 -0700 From: DAVID GREEN To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 19:24:25 -0600 References: FILETIME=[994CC230:01CFE296] Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 229 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry to hear of Daves passing. He will be missed. He was a good contributor to the list. My condolences to his family. Dave Green & "Miss Kitty" > From: tigers-request@autox.team.net > Subject: Tigers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 229 > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 12:00:02 -0600 > > Send Tigers mailing list submissions to > tigers@autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tigers-request@autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tigers-owner@autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Tigers - Dave Johnson (snakebit289) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:18:40 -0700 > From: snakebit289 > To: "tigers@autox.team.net" > Subject: [Tigers] Tigers - Dave Johnson > Message-ID: > <1412698720.36198.YahooMailNeo@web162701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Chicago Tiger owner Dave Johnson's son, Patrick, announced on Facebook yesterday that his dad passed away last weekend. > > You'll remember that Dave was a frequent contributor to this Tiger Autox site for years, but suffered a stroke prior to the 2011 TEAE United in French Lick, Indiana. A restoration of Dave's former Tiger was performed by Patrick and a friend in time for the United. Patrick and his mom took over Dave's role as chairman of the 2011 United when it was certain that Dave could no longer go to French Lick. All of his Tiger friends will miss Dave. > > Rande Bellman > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Tigers mailing list > Tigers@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Tigers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 229 > ************************************** _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 8 15:50:30 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074C42585215 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 15:50:30 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22582580983 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 2014 15:50:06 -0600 (MDT) s=s2048; t=1412805194; bh=HlJVSYY/KuZbe8WVYNho4vzaW0J4gPKaS00MCS7nZ4E=; b=uJ+WzbyaFTlAbKQANwYkvhxxFOqWhMfXkMYGqhwR1A0/1Gq3B4Q7ayp45/YeNjigQV9FsuCvKISz+SumWSJ6w0e/WZT1bWp6VTUS1Yy4LcitkfVfrSi3WdU1QrL41EL9kNKwylDx6elpTY+cHiuoghn6+RqKf26JhBgz4ijqNWpSpZTL9SE47lQNYFFFLVnSlufPWoZIMnBpUKvZlAZ8B+K4ucE+ie0/JrF9X1EUM0XrS1CdpPhleOn60BVDtwyQxMjiPSJ8a3vkBoM9B6KbGnr9u84rCe75J66mDSU9L4/YGFoFjlNL//lZz0X87SLofnBDdahoAscbckXZ1R9yRw== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s2048; d=yahoo.com; b=FTS1uFVCXLgJBxvYLt0m7SEVdUZkyCplrjvUK3r4meRFpeLe9y0kLt18hixC5pJd1+x78FMs8DX7lrOghUCtFZYT7Eo1x2AQW0+nMK2flMoDNEUuwdHyDM4Hp+HNjINhKvXZrxnGxqlqBz7OzqpvJkQ9BDa/NwQnBglOe+On+tCKYO7zd0hcUkbvjg9Mq54bmpVr5BXSVEmizkpcsFrBEFkxgtZhiWZ9bFRYQyLlGzLXeub/47G4T/FOji+bejZTkTbRbOGF8PGO2x5MWP82WvspGHjynIJjhtUZFgUo3u2nNyiLprK7PfiRFrw8PuQQ+WzspnX0K+Jg/+80QSkP6A==; Received: from [98.138.226.179] by nm17.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2014 21:53:14 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.125] by tm14.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2014 21:53:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp204.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Oct 2014 21:53:14 -0000 s=s1024; t=1412805194; bh=HlJVSYY/KuZbe8WVYNho4vzaW0J4gPKaS00MCS7nZ4E=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Subject:References:From:Content-Type:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Message-Id:Date:To:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version; b=xz9EUtEeSgLPpO9kApEaa1EqIY6kC1BfFPYy0gOBco7jWt6ren2dq84LZdZQYosOxnfwhd6iIft+v9ahGcgUzZ5ebhtTGBzEKHk05QOXVv8g2rAfjpCIoUSWd6/JGF2QvmCp724hwzAYElPu0VmdS1o+Skxi9J0jupVoAgvHHQM= DDU2ilWTPJhDlpIu8X40m17bRtaLbZ3uoqdEp0044Rh1QXK6cLwR5afQDlJE G78ntl7oOsRy0yYaQBbVTrktqE5CClHroIjqb0ulSu3sFJ4M5P.Y0awxUkJM skeY5E57IFqXSWUhU40RT2RPIyABarUkbdRm8xxsoPqsHrjkaNvpz37izMfq 1GOsmVM.0S49sQRTlDPhq3f8VjpTiFgy_wQmkWU2q0Kskh10Eo_J2Q3jqThM XFDbkdbrerVMFxae7lhODYaqXfNsLoW4BjMn383jW.yXu_CbwXlmidatqzfO D_X2cq4yS3LFNpSUbhQiUxBuoOl5o6xklPdTEXV9lkDT3thX5n9GAoHCm3uH XUQswS9zmSdhCQm_BJlA..bzVGsElQHORRtLKjwE_80a.LLii8ZDhCEMHCTO NLU64slQwUYa_rptAm85OOYlBEoGuLz3Mj5tJxmqznnfJZooN05yRFhJcHsR 6Z.Ru4RvDA.rbrCzGZUrAEPPxmVBtMg-- References: From: qwiktiger@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2014 16:52:50 -0500 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 229 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sorry to hear. Thoughts and prayers to the family. Sent from my iPad > On Oct 7, 2014, at 1:00 PM, tigers-request@autox.team.net wrote: > > Send Tigers mailing list submissions to > tigers@autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tigers-request@autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tigers-owner@autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Tigers - Dave Johnson (snakebit289) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:18:40 -0700 > From: snakebit289 > To: "tigers@autox.team.net" > Subject: [Tigers] Tigers - Dave Johnson > Message-ID: > <1412698720.36198.YahooMailNeo@web162701.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Chicago Tiger owner Dave Johnson's son, Patrick, announced on Facebook yesterday that his dad passed away last weekend. > > You'll remember that Dave was a frequent contributor to this Tiger Autox site for years, but suffered a stroke prior to the 2011 TEAE United in French Lick, Indiana. A restoration of Dave's former Tiger was performed by Patrick and a friend in time for the United. Patrick and his mom took over Dave's role as chairman of the 2011 United when it was certain that Dave could no longer go to French Lick. All of his Tiger friends will miss Dave. > > Rande Bellman > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Tigers mailing list > Tigers@autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Tigers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 229 > ************************************** _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 9 05:22:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D4025853DC for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 05:22:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (fed1rmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.148]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C0F225806C5 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 05:17:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo110 ([68.230.241.159]) by fed1rmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141009112046.RSSK28942.fed1rmfepo203.cox.net@fed1rmimpo110> for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 07:20:46 -0400 Received: from laptop ([68.229.224.237]) by fed1rmimpo110 with cox id 0zLl1p00J57wa9801zLmab; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 07:20:46 -0400 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=0FvsA1Md3WkllLwFT9EA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=BvREfPkFKfMA:10 a=1ADA211VqqoA:10 a=vzYqhU2ceNMA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=LNcszBE1cumAmVrWOU8A:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=awtiger@cox.net From: "Andy Walker" To: Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 06:20:34 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac/jsnkadzQwfpsFRBaZwzri7HgLKg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Steering rack color Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Guys: I'm starting the process of rebuilding the front end on my Mk1A and I need a clarification on colors. I realize that the steering rack is supposed to be black, but you see so many of them with natural colored end sections (the part where the steering shaft attaches). Is the rack supposed to be entirely black or should those sections I'm speaking of be left natural? Thanks, Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 9 06:23:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA9C325855BA for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 06:23:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-37.everyone.net (sitemail3.everyone.net [216.200.145.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EDD525854FD for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 06:20:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta004.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s99CMHUs023150; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 05:23:45 -0700 Received: by dm0225.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 401891a1) id dm0225.541b9c81.fa24d; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 05:23:43 -0700 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Andy Walker'" , Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 08:23:33 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac/jsnkadzQwfpsFRBaZwzri7HgLKgABfEsg engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-10-09_05:2014-10-09,2014-10-09,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1410090103 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Steering rack color Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Andy TBON has a picture on page 172. Undercarriage, B947001 to B9473767 Norm states; "Steering racks were completely painted black as were the track rods, steering arms and dust shields. Calipers were unpainted natural steel." Maybe Norm has further details about the undercarriage for the B382 series and Mk II. I don't recall any of the Calipers I have being natural steel. They all have a black finish. I always tried to paint components the color as receive on my Tiger but I'm the 4th owner so I'm not sure about the accuracy of the colors. I painted the rack center section black with the ends either natural aluminum or clear coat. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andy Walker Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 7:21 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Steering rack color Guys: I'm starting the process of rebuilding the front end on my Mk1A and I need a clarification on colors. I realize that the steering rack is supposed to be black, but you see so many of them with natural colored end sections (the part where the steering shaft attaches). Is the rack supposed to be entirely black or should those sections I'm speaking of be left natural? Thanks, Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 9 12:13:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 645EA2585917 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 12:13:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f47.google.com (mail-qa0-f47.google.com [209.85.216.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78CC525857AE for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 12:05:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f47.google.com with SMTP id cm18so554841qab.20 for ; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 11:08:56 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=cv/672rXLHxnLptf1pJ/wShTZmAU8Xo2mv/IzDIaqaE=; b=mDf0rAaLQtOt91T0ty9kbba9zrLXGG0YG4Bq5xfbALJgXVxpBDjCVl5IrEhyYpQNTM gbv8TV/bueZbNFGy9anplBpbl8Qxj/LAHyujsoY4G7SGdbMu2ek7vD7ZBTXFNCAMSYCK XdxgOrGSPy90Mg+E9vE567ye6GjtxxMIy6qpSP/Zwg0hK7mYt3vyCKyyzU4PZVSu98VV y/yU6AnlZZ+43u0EitQ+mqKHM8bLmD+8nSrSUs7DIUxMUqymL2AIYUSQ5iKdoLZlHFig PJ5ZDjaAhItsfOgtNjJdLuyMKz+GOd5t1XzK5KKf/rsklmoHOkSevEvBRezwVdW6U3nh AKzA== a5mr950582qat.85.1412878136563; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 11:08:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.112.70 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 11:08:56 -0700 (PDT) References: <9C65EA19068045AD9E2E6A4FBFF9FBE9@BradHuffPC> <347759738.10743686.1409794071032.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 14:08:56 -0400 From: Tom Parker To: "genepadgett@comcast.net" Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] tiger radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net A little late with this response. Sorry, Gmail issues... I visited with Benji at Griffin to discuss the new electric fan / radiator combo. From their engineering drawings the fan adds another @ 2 1/2" on the engine side of the radiator, My Tiger has less than an inch clearance between the tip of the water pump and the radiator core. I suspect that's about right, I might be able to finagle another half inch or so by horsing the engine back, but no more (and I'm not gonna try it...). So my impression is the electric fan won't fit with the engine driven water pump installed. It MAY fit with an electric water pump, but that comes with issues; the 6 bolt 289 uses a different pump than the 5 bolt 260 / 289. I haven't looked into electric pumps so I don't know if they're available for the 260. Tom '67 Mark 2 On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 9:27 PM, wrote: > I have the Griffin Radiator but no experience with the combo electric fan. > At least one other Tiger owner and I had problems with the radiator > fabrication. The two side flanges for mounting to the body were welded on > wrong. They should be offset from the front of the radiator, but they > offset them in the wrong direction. If you order one make them agree > upfront to take it back at their cost if they send you one with this > problem and send you one made correctly. > > Also, be sure you specify that you want one with a drain plug. It seems > they have two different sets of drawings for their Tiger radiator. Not > knowing the difference, I went with the Racing Version. That version does > not have a drain plug... Did not know that until I went to install the > radiator. > > Gene > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Brad Huff" > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 1:17:11 PM > Subject: [Tigers] tiger radiator > > Gentlemen- Any thoughts on the Griffen CU-00179 aluminum radiator and fan > combo cooling package? I have noticed a couple of scrapes on my existing > radiator (recored years ago with a thicker core). The fan has kissed the > radiator core and laid back the copper fins down to the tubes in a couple > of > spots. My thinking is that the Griffen radiator with its narrower core > (1-1/2 > inches vs 2-1/2 on my existing radiator) and the narrow electric fan > included > with the combo might be better. I would then eliminate the stock mechanical > fan and potentially gain back some room. Any thoughts? bBrad > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/genepadgett@comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 9 12:43:32 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33DD925859E8 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 12:43:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo201.cox.net (eastrmfepo201.cox.net [68.230.241.216]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9DB82580B61 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 12:43:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo306 ([68.230.241.238]) by eastrmfepo201.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141009184624.XBOJ31475.eastrmfepo201.cox.net@eastrmimpo306> for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 14:46:24 -0400 Received: from eastrmwml302 ([172.18.18.217]) by eastrmimpo306 with cox id 16mQ1p0094h0NJL016mQt1; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 14:46:24 -0400 a=idnigyIwqgldQQf8U5lIfw==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=hZCqsiUobWwA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=WMimlZgUAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=29CWLqdVrg5lzVewYYoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=p0idVmGAdl8A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=4bVddecYiKb-Yb0T:21 a=Cu5sf3yDFyAUzcyc:21 a=idnigyIwqgldQQf8U5lIfw==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none Received: from 15.211.201.81 by webmail.east.cox.net; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 14:46:24 -0400 Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 11:46:24 -0700 From: To: "genepadgett@comcast.net" , Tom Parker Sensitivity: Normal Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] tiger radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net You can swap water pump/timing cover combos on any small block ford. If you find an electric pump that works just swap the timing cover too. Its not like you are trying to stay concours. I think you will need to use a pusher electric fan if you are really jonesing for an electric one. Erich ---- Tom Parker wrote: > A little late with this response. Sorry, Gmail issues... > > I visited with Benji at Griffin to discuss the new electric fan / radiator > combo. From their engineering drawings the fan adds another @ 2 1/2" on the > engine side of the radiator, My Tiger has less than an inch clearance > between the tip of the water pump and the radiator core. I suspect that's > about right, I might be able to finagle another half inch or so by horsing > the engine back, but no more (and I'm not gonna try it...). > > So my impression is the electric fan won't fit with the engine driven water > pump installed. It MAY fit with an electric water pump, but that comes with > issues; the 6 bolt 289 uses a different pump than the 5 bolt 260 / 289. I > haven't looked into electric pumps so I don't know if they're available for > the 260. > > Tom > '67 Mark 2 > > On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 9:27 PM, wrote: > > > I have the Griffin Radiator but no experience with the combo electric fan. > > At least one other Tiger owner and I had problems with the radiator > > fabrication. The two side flanges for mounting to the body were welded on > > wrong. They should be offset from the front of the radiator, but they > > offset them in the wrong direction. If you order one make them agree > > upfront to take it back at their cost if they send you one with this > > problem and send you one made correctly. > > > > Also, be sure you specify that you want one with a drain plug. It seems > > they have two different sets of drawings for their Tiger radiator. Not > > knowing the difference, I went with the Racing Version. That version does > > not have a drain plug... Did not know that until I went to install the > > radiator. > > > > Gene > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Brad Huff" > > To: tigers@autox.team.net > > Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 1:17:11 PM > > Subject: [Tigers] tiger radiator > > > > Gentlemen- Any thoughts on the Griffen CU-00179 aluminum radiator and fan > > combo cooling package? I have noticed a couple of scrapes on my existing > > radiator (recored years ago with a thicker core). The fan has kissed the > > radiator core and laid back the copper fins down to the tubes in a couple > > of > > spots. My thinking is that the Griffen radiator with its narrower core > > (1-1/2 > > inches vs 2-1/2 on my existing radiator) and the narrow electric fan > > included > > with the combo might be better. I would then eliminate the stock mechanical > > fan and potentially gain back some room. Any thoughts? bBrad > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/genepadgett@comcast.net > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/e.coiner@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 9 13:41:54 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B99C32585192 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 13:41:54 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f51.google.com (mail-qa0-f51.google.com [209.85.216.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0138825807F5 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 13:37:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id k15so676280qaq.24 for ; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 12:41:00 -0700 (PDT) s=google; h=message-id:from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:subject:date :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BkLA/8CnE+fab1MV+W1wAZ0IA/eZXKl2/Pz7zeBKmYI=; b=njizzNHQZFoanIRYl1c/OJnSLWM83mYmHGLwC24A/RTb81bvAxY21XgttXff1VMJ5a tDZlida5ky+WYarTHU7r2UUlxIh57jPlHA2Z4l73yUf4xdwEaoadxQ+/hLP4hWeO8pl2 uBKAr75HBUk+8d+0CSdQQ62E+a1vFL7ConHxQ= d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:from:to:cc:references:in-reply-to :subject:date:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BkLA/8CnE+fab1MV+W1wAZ0IA/eZXKl2/Pz7zeBKmYI=; b=jhEiRrJ+W55FsDzRYs3KVRGq9Ap/Ut2y1ismqIfbt7X7+R5uVbomrGXjZLCAEz3d/M qKYM39hd574sP9oYNBeDZJto2q42020EQzql4yIm7cs2Ijl5kPN9ymiJGVhsDNem08gw blReNn5ZEl1XRNuWCuk7Gfof8wmwNmzWlZFLlX5v67ePfCF2ztL0MxiCczTQ5wNxjtYp Im5OWItfqkBrM/lIf9S6iGxv9QP1mZk8FP0pQ/ZBoHYwMNVVbQzA/QzsGxVIf+uup7P4 k0JGM7nAYbXUdti/hAXC/AIS3nqKJ9hmNE0qqjtVYH04lq/4AH3/JC+E7Jh9GN0MiPjy e5Iw== p36mr257219qgp.61.1412883660070; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 12:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DavePC (DRMONS0544W-142167136027.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOp.ns.bellaliant.net. [142.167.136.27]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id d60sm3154972qgd.35.2014.10.09.12.40.58 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 09 Oct 2014 12:40:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "Dave Munroe" To: "Tom Parker" , References: <9C65EA19068045AD9E2E6A4FBFF9FBE9@BradHuffPC> <347759738.10743686.1409794071032.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 16:40:55 -0300 Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] tiger radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tom; My Tiger has a 2 5/8" thick alloy rad installed with an electric fan mounted on the forward side of the rad. I have a water pump-mounted fan that has the blades rearward of the fan mounting flange, so it takes up no clearance beyond the bolts holding the fan on the flange. No overheating issues with this set-up...331ci stroked 289. 317hp/350 ft lb torque. Photos available if you'd like. Dave B382000450 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Parker" To: Cc: "LIST TIGER" Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] tiger radiator >A little late with this response. Sorry, Gmail issues... > > I visited with Benji at Griffin to discuss the new electric fan / radiator > combo. From their engineering drawings the fan adds another @ 2 1/2" on > the > engine side of the radiator, My Tiger has less than an inch clearance > between the tip of the water pump and the radiator core. I suspect that's > about right, I might be able to finagle another half inch or so by horsing > the engine back, but no more (and I'm not gonna try it...). > > So my impression is the electric fan won't fit with the engine driven > water > pump installed. It MAY fit with an electric water pump, but that comes > with > issues; the 6 bolt 289 uses a different pump than the 5 bolt 260 / 289. I > haven't looked into electric pumps so I don't know if they're available > for > the 260. > > Tom > '67 Mark 2 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 9 14:42:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A61CB258530C for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 14:42:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qg0-f45.google.com (mail-qg0-f45.google.com [209.85.192.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E7B2580539 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 14:36:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id q107so2976308qgd.18 for ; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 13:39:33 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=O+ZXYi8LR59E1MllSUfhX9cQgZq67Ggji9M4T4fXmQI=; b=XrI3j3RFZhdXN63H5fHCPT0MPFFXMY/LyO9hwFnelL8djqRSBnjdAeEdc+9in+JMqd RLE6PMstQtR7Wy91otcHp/AxI1n6CkvA1YtAkM2dAvOqEBWYLHIrPIlXUiiF+NbmFAzX nidoarnBcEG1CgUHkCWI4UXv7ytDWQMMiZyyaJ1RlKWvBWUlB1qMbCmehb93EVxokVei 7fRdXyaxFenr+eFuv/NQgH2Y/GlWDU2rha8DtiwUiDP/3LML/wsYv2xUfWmjRP2jmbRi C1Q22u7+ntgow5B8OylI4rGogTGlHKxhI4FAXHyBsDimnrqZucUL8/JgGwaPmRKlWDyP roSg== o17mr771289qgd.71.1412887172341; Thu, 09 Oct 2014 13:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.112.70 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Oct 2014 13:39:32 -0700 (PDT) References: <9C65EA19068045AD9E2E6A4FBFF9FBE9@BradHuffPC> <347759738.10743686.1409794071032.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <8CDB8C6B9B594F5FAB59F8F372CF76DC@DavePC> Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2014 16:39:32 -0400 From: Tom Parker To: Dave Munroe Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] tiger radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, Thanks. The response was from an old post on the forum right after Griffin announced the radiator / fan combination. I took a look at my '67 and thought there's no way that'll fit. So I followed up with Benji at Griffin. The note was to report back what he found: 1 1/2" radiator core, 2 1/2" fan. No way that'll fit with a motor driven water pump. He said they'd sold lots of them. No comment so far from anyone who bought one. My 289 has a recored stock radiator, the shop said it was a "high efficiency" core, @ 2 1/2" thick. The engine's .030 overbore, Edelbrock heads, manifold, cam, Holley carb. and a Summit "wide paddle" flex fan and a Summit 10" pusher fan behind the grille a la TEAE's recommendations. At an idle speed @ 675 rpm it will overheat in the Florida heat. I installed the Maverick reduced diameter pump pulley, it seems to help but in summer I kick the idle up a bit. Tom '67 Mark 2 On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Dave Munroe wrote: > Tom; > > My Tiger has a 2 5/8" thick alloy rad installed with an electric fan > mounted on the forward side of the rad. I have a water pump-mounted fan > that has the blades rearward of the fan mounting flange, so it takes up no > clearance beyond the bolts holding the fan on the flange. > > No overheating issues with this set-up...331ci stroked 289. 317hp/350 ft > lb torque. > > Photos available if you'd like. > > Dave > B382000450 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Parker" > To: > Cc: "LIST TIGER" > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 3:08 PM > Subject: Re: [Tigers] tiger radiator > > > > A little late with this response. Sorry, Gmail issues... >> >> I visited with Benji at Griffin to discuss the new electric fan / radiator >> combo. From their engineering drawings the fan adds another @ 2 1/2" on >> the >> engine side of the radiator, My Tiger has less than an inch clearance >> between the tip of the water pump and the radiator core. I suspect that's >> about right, I might be able to finagle another half inch or so by horsing >> the engine back, but no more (and I'm not gonna try it...). >> >> So my impression is the electric fan won't fit with the engine driven >> water >> pump installed. It MAY fit with an electric water pump, but that comes >> with >> issues; the 6 bolt 289 uses a different pump than the 5 bolt 260 / 289. I >> haven't looked into electric pumps so I don't know if they're available >> for >> the 260. >> >> Tom >> '67 Mark 2 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 10 03:18:23 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA62258537B for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 03:18:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f177.google.com (mail-ig0-f177.google.com [209.85.213.177]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8EB3258049A for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 03:14:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f177.google.com with SMTP id a13so1952708igq.4 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 02:17:34 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=AwLFHtHwVtBbEOC92f0IOv4aOU0cR77x+eJ9tiZpd2k=; b=w+sMvwFVZTtVHl6tX93nEG7nnGZFqtVS0D3J4ToLbH1wAU/J2WYtGzVy1mqvlu8x+4 rS+D1ggaPNru6Faepr95yNlfKf+dmc8gtahIgnuscWO31DODwlLK0cKrsXHvpVD3v8P3 SVW1NeiNIvdpLQNstlVnIAxKeQX2qX+PTap8SZAvsMCwO2ijLiHWgyL1ZHFk05ZnqRp4 vw91Ny9IbJxiyLzjHmdEvSHQvrzh0s4dl23KEZkDIETH0f+1IBIuJbwiHaEwEUXthgLh 6k50XUdeYCcqZ67OGOMM/ZjO9jRV/XtpJfdj4kccr69qfNu4dnnjo5ySUaDdmqHDfOK6 u91w== dm5mr14893923icb.8.1412932653853; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 02:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.16.77 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 02:17:33 -0700 (PDT) References: <9C65EA19068045AD9E2E6A4FBFF9FBE9@BradHuffPC> <347759738.10743686.1409794071032.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <8CDB8C6B9B594F5FAB59F8F372CF76DC@DavePC> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 05:17:33 -0400 From: Owain Lloyd To: Tom Parker Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] tiger radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net If you ever need less than 1/2 inch more clearance to the rad and you have the original early timing cover, its worth remembering that the later timing covers are thinner. you'll need to use different bolts to attach it. i've never tried changing one with the engine still in the car but it should be doable with a quality damper puller and the rad removed. On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Tom Parker wrote: > Dave, > > Thanks. The response was from an old post on the forum right after Griffin > announced the radiator / fan combination. I took a look at my '67 and > thought there's no way that'll fit. So I followed up with Benji at Griffin. > The note was to report back what he found: 1 1/2" radiator core, 2 1/2" > fan. No way that'll fit with a motor driven water pump. He said they'd sold > lots of them. No comment so far from anyone who bought one. > > My 289 has a recored stock radiator, the shop said it was a "high > efficiency" core, @ 2 1/2" thick. The engine's .030 overbore, Edelbrock > heads, manifold, cam, Holley carb. and a Summit "wide paddle" flex fan and > a Summit 10" pusher fan behind the grille a la TEAE's recommendations. At > an idle speed @ 675 rpm it will overheat in the Florida heat. I installed > the Maverick reduced diameter pump pulley, it seems to help but in summer I > kick the idle up a bit. > > Tom > '67 Mark 2 > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Dave Munroe wrote: > > > Tom; > > > > My Tiger has a 2 5/8" thick alloy rad installed with an electric fan > > mounted on the forward side of the rad. I have a water pump-mounted fan > > that has the blades rearward of the fan mounting flange, so it takes up > no > > clearance beyond the bolts holding the fan on the flange. > > > > No overheating issues with this set-up...331ci stroked 289. 317hp/350 ft > > lb torque. > > > > Photos available if you'd like. > > > > Dave > > B382000450 > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Parker" > > To: > > Cc: "LIST TIGER" > > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 3:08 PM > > Subject: Re: [Tigers] tiger radiator > > > > > > > > A little late with this response. Sorry, Gmail issues... > >> > >> I visited with Benji at Griffin to discuss the new electric fan / > radiator > >> combo. From their engineering drawings the fan adds another @ 2 1/2" on > >> the > >> engine side of the radiator, My Tiger has less than an inch clearance > >> between the tip of the water pump and the radiator core. I suspect > that's > >> about right, I might be able to finagle another half inch or so by > horsing > >> the engine back, but no more (and I'm not gonna try it...). > >> > >> So my impression is the electric fan won't fit with the engine driven > >> water > >> pump installed. It MAY fit with an electric water pump, but that comes > >> with > >> issues; the 6 bolt 289 uses a different pump than the 5 bolt 260 / 289. > I > >> haven't looked into electric pumps so I don't know if they're available > >> for > >> the 260. > >> > >> Tom > >> '67 Mark 2 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 10 06:08:13 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F6B2584A31 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 06:08:13 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f181.google.com (mail-pd0-f181.google.com [209.85.192.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F9A258049A for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 06:07:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f181.google.com with SMTP id z10so1584511pdj.12 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 05:11:02 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=iBWpE0bV8/zn8tCqGl8Tu05cYDgKI93oCJa16ma58nM=; b=W/flh2L57KMCui2F6PIk+yQdlD5c9b4zJo4vlTNonKRjX5EchQkpw7jvfSYgtsObyW fXkOlhY9cQsCUUTegFkQZ76gyETBur83w5DyJATzhbBWiekvdbndh1Um8s5pTnsIxlFk gg9N0r6OAhDcs8N6l27ew7uNROgXBUgyhIM9rbOJOp3lCTUHbHtybO7tbQmV7HQ9K+6J 4igrJPMLZ++rRgDoXQX1SvTLp67RoFsCH+9wCasNxAXA4sUpZHZEdGajZbDM5AZnrXJU cyNxZjhiO9mAreT7GhqL2NNcRSIKXaGkl3JDhAxWjPfnzqgHRh5kN41LcaTzomJDDADK ItuA== o10mr4814071pdp.100.1412943062095; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 05:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.50.232 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 05:11:02 -0700 (PDT) References: <9C65EA19068045AD9E2E6A4FBFF9FBE9@BradHuffPC> <347759738.10743686.1409794071032.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <8CDB8C6B9B594F5FAB59F8F372CF76DC@DavePC> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 08:11:02 -0400 From: Mark Rense To: "owain.lloyd@gmail.com" Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] tiger radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I have replaced one in the car. You need to: Remove radiator Unbolt and move rack forward or just remove. Put jack under engine and unbolt motor mounts. See if you can lift engine high enough without pushing valve covers into scuttle to gain access to damper. If not then lower engine and remove valve covers. The rest is straight out of the book, although you may need to loosen the oil pan front bolts. Bugz On Friday, October 10, 2014, Owain Lloyd wrote: > If you ever need less than 1/2 inch more clearance to the rad and you have > the original early timing cover, its worth remembering that the later > timing covers are thinner. you'll need to use different bolts to attach > it. i've never tried changing one with the engine still in the car but it > should be doable with a quality damper puller and the rad removed. > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Tom Parker > wrote: > > > Dave, > > > > Thanks. The response was from an old post on the forum right after > Griffin > > announced the radiator / fan combination. I took a look at my '67 and > > thought there's no way that'll fit. So I followed up with Benji at > Griffin. > > The note was to report back what he found: 1 1/2" radiator core, 2 1/2" > > fan. No way that'll fit with a motor driven water pump. He said they'd > sold > > lots of them. No comment so far from anyone who bought one. > > > > My 289 has a recored stock radiator, the shop said it was a "high > > efficiency" core, @ 2 1/2" thick. The engine's .030 overbore, Edelbrock > > heads, manifold, cam, Holley carb. and a Summit "wide paddle" flex fan > and > > a Summit 10" pusher fan behind the grille a la TEAE's recommendations. At > > an idle speed @ 675 rpm it will overheat in the Florida heat. I installed > > the Maverick reduced diameter pump pulley, it seems to help but in > summer I > > kick the idle up a bit. > > > > Tom > > '67 Mark 2 > > > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 3:40 PM, Dave Munroe > wrote: > > > > > Tom; > > > > > > My Tiger has a 2 5/8" thick alloy rad installed with an electric fan > > > mounted on the forward side of the rad. I have a water pump-mounted fan > > > that has the blades rearward of the fan mounting flange, so it takes up > > no > > > clearance beyond the bolts holding the fan on the flange. > > > > > > No overheating issues with this set-up...331ci stroked 289. 317hp/350 > ft > > > lb torque. > > > > > > Photos available if you'd like. > > > > > > Dave > > > B382000450 > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Parker" < > tkparker1941@gmail.com > > > > To: > > > > Cc: "LIST TIGER" > > > > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 3:08 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Tigers] tiger radiator > > > > > > > > > > > > A little late with this response. Sorry, Gmail issues... > > >> > > >> I visited with Benji at Griffin to discuss the new electric fan / > > radiator > > >> combo. From their engineering drawings the fan adds another @ 2 1/2" > on > > >> the > > >> engine side of the radiator, My Tiger has less than an inch clearance > > >> between the tip of the water pump and the radiator core. I suspect > > that's > > >> about right, I might be able to finagle another half inch or so by > > horsing > > >> the engine back, but no more (and I'm not gonna try it...). > > >> > > >> So my impression is the electric fan won't fit with the engine driven > > >> water > > >> pump installed. It MAY fit with an electric water pump, but that comes > > >> with > > >> issues; the 6 bolt 289 uses a different pump than the 5 bolt 260 / > 289. > > I > > >> haven't looked into electric pumps so I don't know if they're > available > > >> for > > >> the 260. > > >> > > >> Tom > > >> '67 Mark 2 > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd@gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mark44124@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 10 06:14:41 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A2B02584AB8 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 06:14:41 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f49.google.com (mail-pa0-f49.google.com [209.85.220.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3573258476B for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 06:10:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id hz1so1620303pad.22 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 05:13:56 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=bRhJDzH/Oqp/c3JRD9Dq0WOjkbGq/HR6Ab10lhls91k=; b=iVjKBPs7lze9FIWj6vv5/nDCh8INHFeuAnarcXOzw34i4saVecXX7h771GaxhUDGsg g+OQ53tI9jNNckC55P+lz1PjNUCS+j8LcXqOHwNrHuoQzndofGqvQWb2+2Tc46d7mziC WpCaB/6/+dq3/dYyE7aF0JoQknCisc5bRZeW6s9tfuUqHt/LSCIZXmEjaDdyZQ1Qd9s/ D9OraztIO9ziRoy/iagl+a5YdgyOl5JrMhuVBUKV42hPgOulL0uXVEwf4UjHUm6GZ50l VO2RhcnT9BmoiiWbWvtXUMVGQQke7i8IKdzE2fKQIH4BdMZ4Utk1Y9goO/xNjjdLsEmG YxAg== pn8mr2135558pbc.152.1412943236661; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 05:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.50.232 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 05:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 08:13:56 -0400 From: Mark Rense To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Barber Vintage Weekend Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Any Tiger members at Barber this weekend? I know it's vintage bikes but there quite a few of us that indulge in that passion. I'm on a '72 Norton Commando. Bugz _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 10 08:49:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4C9B2584C11 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 08:49:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-35.everyone.net (imta-35.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6662580AFD for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 08:49:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta006.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s9AEq6Ah006200; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 07:52:09 -0700 Received: by dm0219.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a209) id dm0219.541b9c8c.e5ce9; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 07:52:07 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.145.200]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 14:52:02 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: , "'Tom Parker'" Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:51:57 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac/kbK3EOwfejHvyRguA07jNyUoDBQAKaqQg engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-10-10_06:2014-10-10,2014-10-10,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1410100124 Cc: 'LIST TIGER' Subject: Re: [Tigers] tiger radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I just measured a couple of timing covers. 5.0L E5AE timing cover - Thickness = 2.1" 64 289, C5AE timing cover - major thickness = 2.712 - the cast timing pointer makes the total thickness = 3.092" That makes about 1" difference. The difference with a 289 timing cover without a cast pointer should be around .6" Yes the timing cover can be removed with the engine in place. The radiator must be removed to gain access. I believe the 5.0L timing cover will fit OK but I have never checked that or looked to see. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Owain Lloyd Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 5:18 AM To: Tom Parker Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] tiger radiator If you ever need less than 1/2 inch more clearance to the rad and you have the original early timing cover, its worth remembering that the later timing covers are thinner. you'll need to use different bolts to attach it. i've never tried changing one with the engine still in the car but it should be doable with a quality damper puller and the rad removed. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 10 08:54:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64B7A2584F77 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 08:54:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f169.google.com (mail-ig0-f169.google.com [209.85.213.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8978E2584BDD for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 08:54:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f169.google.com with SMTP id uq10so7135534igb.4 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 07:57:34 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Ntpm3FbR9lJzdktEDgPvQLO86I8CevTO+f4DcWAdXi0=; b=JBgZfSMYd2Bb9PgFXQkfpjwBg1N9sy1jpcSRHz1YsBX8JVFfQ3yfZ9c774pouMwNCe 2axnei1IFasWV6JhvmNGeJIuJKIhSitvu2EhHll4uXbGI7HhdXhQ2vRWqlhuot9xH+ON D4yP9gZ6DtB0jqqwAvvAn9TsKJuwO6InEY5fxLTy0V18uF7ruNzxTAvJaAwM4J+O0S7T LgjTFkPQ4+DDeCZ79GvE6edNQXx6SH4XVROgsbwg63fTh/a6Lo9TZVF6A6M2nNhgeK7w rS0yZ93sS2fxtS3QCRsvWN4wKKL+UKTAPHm4oSGGI9fGsLecn1flf+XIHVuel24TQZ2b gNzQ== dm5mr17275294icb.8.1412953054751; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 07:57:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.16.77 with HTTP; Fri, 10 Oct 2014 07:57:34 -0700 (PDT) References: <12D413071FB7432FB68B11C54C2BF95A@ronpc1> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:57:34 -0400 From: Owain Lloyd To: "rfraser@bluefrog.com" Cc: LIST TIGER Subject: Re: [Tigers] tiger radiator Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net yep, about 0.6" is what i remember. the timing pointer doesn't matter - its the mounting flange for the water pump that does. it fits fine - you just need to adjust the spacing of your crank pulley (and maybe alternator depending on how it's mounted). I noticed this when I installed a newly built engine that i'd used the '64 style cover on. my old engine had the later cover. initially i had an electric pump, but switched back to the mechanical to get the belt to the alternator. i've since modified the mounting style to allow use of the electric pump but have not yet re fitted it. On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Ron Fraser wrote: > I just measured a couple of timing covers. > > 5.0L E5AE timing cover - Thickness = 2.1" > > 64 289, C5AE timing cover - major thickness = 2.712 - the cast timing > pointer makes the total thickness = 3.092" > > That makes about 1" difference. The difference with a 289 timing cover > without a cast pointer should be around .6" > > Yes the timing cover can be removed with the engine in place. The radiator > must be removed to gain access. > > I believe the 5.0L timing cover will fit OK but I have never checked that > or > looked to see. > > Ron Fraser > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Owain > Lloyd > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 5:18 AM > To: Tom Parker > Cc: LIST TIGER > Subject: Re: [Tigers] tiger radiator > > > If you ever need less than 1/2 inch more clearance to the rad and you have > the original early timing cover, its worth remembering that the later > timing covers are thinner. you'll need to use different bolts to attach > it. i've never tried changing one with the engine still in the car but it > should be doable with a quality damper puller and the rad removed. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 18:12:46 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E792584FEA for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 18:12:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm28-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.158]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D85A258055A for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 18:05:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.100.103] by nm28.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2014 00:09:00 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.236] by tm102.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2014 00:09:00 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1036.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2014 00:09:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 99190 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Oct 2014 00:09:00 -0000 s=s1024; t=1413504540; bh=L3CHQc3CnIkVoSTvhNibcggKjQOKyMnqOlrMLpSX/fQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Ee850pMzAg9ylLtcH81I2VK2srtqN7wElNY1RspXmDKyneoMefkalqwMqtL7UD9yRjbuk/grPq4OoF5SdqmBQdOIpWdBBuMfVZHlAcbaPyD9kZnnJpaLk4XkvtxTrzBd/NiqySDPJlq6uDii0yTwCGdbbGcVXnNNCmFfxNA5OZk= PCm_oIzG.dqm9VYGumaQ4yusBS0vtoPtIaBZ3BGmpaKf44M7Ij77l0Qjc9sC SXBnVkJXupGtRy24.G71qD1ROLdxkMCF8drRYihXMlnwtDapjhXoFtbn8N.g CcBbXP59C_ROkfeE2WIYb0igfFnPnYLk9BneFalzqXHuWXkXkWwketYVqTd_ 3Jt7PPfhy7VppYX4XFJ4ZJ9grIGY2irYgaYvqKIDsKzsMtS3rP37xNDgbT6I W9L..1wCrW3IVoQcCM4ScsTg56HpecETQeHEn6vFccI38sKGr0_nVD6ju4gQ 5iFVJjdTGVXmGKWU.j.cdbTbaOHNgRx_74qTF8CviTypIQjGIYTHl1laiqmv _saDtxeXbYcysl1USNURglG8qTIdT9kASBqtQrwvOrP2VtOvw83coRdhf5Pb 7r_XIZLX256UiRlWikqfal92vyZYiSpCUj.wSDJOtb.5GFehCA8OXLxpgFw_ r5R.9wxuxe3r8ea9yKQtzBbnwfANlqtBK9yhML1exTOCKNLQSHL6YEKQ- Received: from [70.209.196.107] by web121106.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 17:09:00 PDT SSd2ZSBqdXN0IHJldmlld2VkIHRoZSBlLWFydGljbGUgYnkgSGFnZXJ0eSByZWdhcmRpbmcgZ2V0dGluZyB2aW50YWdlIGxpY2Vuc2UgcGxhdGVzIGZvciBDYWxpZm9ybmlhLgpGcm9tIHBlcnNvbmFsIGtub3dsZWRnZSBJIGtub3cgdGhhdCB0aGUgZ29sZCBvbiBibGFjayBQQVYgIyMjIHdlbnQgb24gYSAxOTY0IGNhciAobXkgZmlyc3QgY2FyIDstKSBhbmQgWElBICMjIyBvbiBhIDE5NjkgKGRhZCdzIERvZ2UgQ29yb25ldCkuCiAKV2hhdCBJJ20gd29uZGVyaW5nIGlzIGlmIGFueW9uZSBoYXMgYW4gYXBwcm8BMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 17:09:00 -0700 From: Brian Glenn To: Tiger List Subject: [Tigers] California license plate sequence Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I've just reviewed the e-article by Hagerty regarding getting vintage license plates for California. >From personal knowledge I know that the gold on black PAV ### went on a 1964 car (my first car ;-) and XIA ### on a 1969 (dad's Doge Coronet). What I'm wondering is if anyone has an approximate knowledge of what sequences would be appropriate for each production year of the Tiger, i.e. 1964 through 1967. 1964 XXX ### through XXX ###, etc. Anecdotes with the letter sequence from those with original plates would be great. Thanks Brian Brian Glenn P.O. Box 578 Julian, CA 92036-0578 714.345.9883 B9470208LRXFE GT B9471101LRXFE B9472615LRXFE B382000846LRXFE B382001212LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 18:13:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D25525850A6 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 18:13:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm1-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm1-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866D5258055A for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 18:06:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.100.115] by nm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2014 00:09:30 -0000 Received: from [98.138.88.234] by tm106.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2014 00:09:30 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1034.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2014 00:09:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 46323 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Oct 2014 00:09:30 -0000 s=s1024; t=1413504570; bh=HDmi5ESxJmCVhBbmK1P6IcjQKBseqSOtrTJ9woNbIyU=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=J6YXMTR1qDYOknaLPMrL9OCnIUJPAIssSPsWsUCKoLgTlUb4AepWU66+C5zUqD4/9+T9kG6xU5D/beJMij0a+oKtEftG3tM8J8WEHRr3Xz9SMBZJNJ6QQ6xARL2nOpj52SbIIa24u42q8Wqg881c2xd6loH7TNu7HKA1f2+WGLo= KvPHGJOT81O9pHprMZgpylCXsnSr3XYmRhACFpxYTv9NRRj6dnQGVHMikwrv CaYHh66GcYWdV03MEhQuakZA.XJvzTOSPMk.BNsd7vl6LZTdY4iXsExPnPpX L74mEZOHwuV_bIUlKQt88_08vYwqVen8cIBycRqRsbKHyaV.3OuEAfQNIIYv NzRCZaURTmHSXsyb5amf.E.S7yctJJj0bxzbQLq5_2jAX3GeqJ.8oGU03_mX dNL4y_qoP109XtwZj6eZ8znix4IfLYMxyPWkTUx57GdYvcBnDv1oYqwHciEE CEAQX7d5aPt0ph0tGHK.E6PugWBgJmu_dZl83NZLJEVR88L2Lbrv527iDHZy 1XEiheLXzyK.LJNHxEv7_0DmFOU1YTz0tTBF6o6w.MjWo5BgT9x09cxhvpwg a_ae9D8vw0GV3qnqixGGs.AY_AMerj.eeFBRbxQNKq.FjtOAqw_rEcXbwX7j Y7eODUWGxZl9jvYfhNAGP8Q6i8pknlm22a9cn8oOf37AZwORM9_f1 Received: from [70.209.196.107] by web121101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 17:09:29 PDT SSd2ZSBqdXN0IHJldmlld2VkIHRoZSBlLWFydGljbGUgYnkgSGFnZXJ0eSByZWdhcmRpbmcgZ2V0dGluZyB2aW50YWdlIGxpY2Vuc2UgcGxhdGVzIGZvciBDYWxpZm9ybmlhLgpGcm9tIHBlcnNvbmFsIGtub3dsZWRnZSBJIGtub3cgdGhhdCB0aGUgZ29sZCBvbiBibGFjayBQQVYgIyMjIHdlbnQgb24gYSAxOTY0IGNhciAobXkgZmlyc3QgY2FyIDstKSBhbmQgWElBICMjIyBvbiBhIDE5NjkgKGRhZCdzIERvZ2UgQ29yb25ldCkuCiAKV2hhdCBJJ20gd29uZGVyaW5nIGlzIGlmIGFueW9uZSBoYXMgYW4gYXBwcm8BMAEBAQE- Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 17:09:29 -0700 From: Brian Glenn To: Tiger List Subject: [Tigers] California license plate sequence Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I've just reviewed the e-article by Hagerty regarding getting vintage license plates for California. >From personal knowledge I know that the gold on black PAV ### went on a 1964 car (my first car ;-) and XIA ### on a 1969 (dad's Doge Coronet). What I'm wondering is if anyone has an approximate knowledge of what sequences would be appropriate for each production year of the Tiger, i.e. 1964 through 1967. 1964 XXX ### through XXX ###, etc. Anecdotes with the letter sequence from those with original plates would be great. Thanks Brian Brian Glenn P.O. Box 578 Julian, CA 92036-0578 714.345.9883 B9470208LRXFE GT B9471101LRXFE B9472615LRXFE B382000846LRXFE B382001212LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 20:11:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3682585192 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 20:11:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57C22580801 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 20:08:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BuckLaptop ([unknown] [173.58.234.133]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0NDK00H5PGRWUI80@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 21:11:57 -0500 (CDT) From: "Buck Trippel" To: "'Brian Glenn'" , "'Tiger List'" References: <1413504569.21754.YahooMailNeo@web121101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 19:11:54 -0700 Thread-index: AQI3N+mqqBvv13++bRW2hwDlX/IFPZtk7ZWA Content-language: en-us Subject: Re: [Tigers] California license plate sequence Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net My wife's 66 MkIA (382002000) has its original black plates with the plate number STV759 Buck Trippel. -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Glenn Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:09 PM To: Tiger List Subject: [Tigers] California license plate sequence I've just reviewed the e-article by Hagerty regarding getting vintage license plates for California. >From personal knowledge I know that the gold on black PAV ### went on a 1964 car (my first car ;-) and XIA ### on a 1969 (dad's Doge Coronet). What I'm wondering is if anyone has an approximate knowledge of what sequences would be appropriate for each production year of the Tiger, i.e. 1964 through 1967. 1964 XXX ### through XXX ###, etc. Anecdotes with the letter sequence from those with original plates would be great. Thanks Brian Brian Glenn P.O. Box 578 Julian, CA 92036-0578 714.345.9883 B9470208LRXFE GT B9471101LRXFE B9472615LRXFE B382000846LRXFE B382001212LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 21:44:14 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34F9125851FE for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 21:44:14 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1bon0062.outbound.protection.outlook.com [157.56.111.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B38312580801 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 21:44:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com (10.242.233.147) by BY2PR01MB155.prod.exchangelabs.com (10.242.233.143) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1049.19; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 03:47:19 +0000 Received: from BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com ([10.242.233.147]) by BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com ([10.242.233.147]) with mapi id 15.00.1054.004; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 03:47:19 +0000 From: "Teepen, Jere" To: "BuckTrippel@Verizon.net" , 'Brian Glenn' , 'Tiger List' Thread-Topic: [Tigers] California license plate sequence Thread-Index: AQHP6Z+cnaQEbkbJC0uxTCwNrQ1MxpwzjDEAgAAWydA= Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 03:47:19 +0000 References: <1413504569.21754.YahooMailNeo@web121101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <000601cfe9af$b902c9b0$2b085d10$@Verizon.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [167.8.69.4] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:BY2PR01MB155; x-forefront-prvs: 0367A50BB1 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009020)(6009001)(199003)(189002)(377454003)(54356999)(85852003)(101416001)(2521001)(31966008)(99396003)(76176999)(105586002)(2501002)(50986999)(95666004)(106116001)(120916001)(108616004)(107886001)(107046002)(40100003)(4396001)(21056001)(19580405001)(80022003)(33646002)(19580395003)(74316001)(86362001)(76482002)(92566001)(64706001)(66066001)(20776003)(46102003)(87936001)(97736003)(122556002)(106356001)(85306004)(2656002)(21314002)(24736002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:BY2PR01MB155; H:BY2PR01MB156.prod.exchangelabs.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; Subject: Re: [Tigers] California license plate sequence Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net My car has OWF xxx, but the plates are not original to the car. The plates were original to a Sunbeam Alpine that was from the area where I currently live (Whittier, CA). Did the letter portion designate a particular area where the plates were issued or where the owner of the car resided? I ask as I grew up in a small town in Ohio (the 60's, baby) and the plates for the residents all started with SS or ST. This was the case for many years and when the plates changed color each year the car would receive replacement plates with the same letters/numbers. I am not sure how long this practice was used and I seriously doubt they still do it. Just curious, Jere Teepen -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Buck Trippel Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:12 PM To: 'Brian Glenn'; 'Tiger List' Subject: Re: [Tigers] California license plate sequence My wife's 66 MkIA (382002000) has its original black plates with the plate number STV759 Buck Trippel. -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Glenn Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:09 PM To: Tiger List Subject: [Tigers] California license plate sequence I've just reviewed the e-article by Hagerty regarding getting vintage license plates for California. >From personal knowledge I know that the gold on black PAV ### went on a 1964 car (my first car ;-) and XIA ### on a 1969 (dad's Doge Coronet). What I'm wondering is if anyone has an approximate knowledge of what sequences would be appropriate for each production year of the Tiger, i.e. 1964 through 1967. 1964 XXX ### through XXX ###, etc. Anecdotes with the letter sequence from those with original plates would be great. Thanks Brian Brian Glenn P.O. Box 578 Julian, CA 92036-0578 714.345.9883 B9470208LRXFE GT B9471101LRXFE B9472615LRXFE B382000846LRXFE B382001212LRXF _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 16 22:55:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C026C2585277 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 22:55:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm18.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm18.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A2D258458C for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 22:47:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.100.113] by nm18.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2014 04:50:37 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.10] by tm104.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2014 04:50:36 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1010.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2014 04:50:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 17396 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Oct 2014 04:50:36 -0000 s=s1024; t=1413521436; bh=cLN9quLkOr6L4e6KjeIVbpFtW77mtu+Hsk5B93oWXoA=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kzOiQSSSaossMdQI+LaQlY8riW/A2A5QldSQu2qItcJL9EV3MB0A3VSWsvM8MDDoHcnGfgP6ahZASBw4/0h5emOftJgIk4JiJTLrHmcPIv/JdKC0qQrkBdwKMwBZ4IT63uHxOD9uq5JgX4tybzpXYgzVzQIyBau+30s9mzvRD0w= FBqxuuPqoi7LBpKpm8zS59sb_FdyPwpi294S7S21ZN4n50Myoyoic6EVGeyJ 7n5gtSdOzkh9cxeT9aFDXzVhU26iAGhzxdZfC0gO_hm6jnX784oUCXt3bS60 Zs6T2cB2g1YuONlguCXYfSae.lUItGVgvFM2zPCQxCF7GmBMdgcEfgZtlf1k JkM.sivO2AMEXB1GAX.kKcsPmAcFUcHsyK0WWJs49S2_8SoGa7sLYyaL.9di 9o3NYwqpQ.wgFHWPvHZlq56znF51H6fOmSV_SOpAjZWFCu2TlbrKoXjM9VGe 3h13mo3UGwi24f53CwJNIVmWs7sgwl2hAXj_venooIOtknwXRgi.4TogGPbd RIjZXNcAMQbF6CSqX9_am93Am3GG4kd1DGwjRFNDhG9VTtfYf3_qNFBmqSHf nqibtoNuygDHbgzaGQSKWNKhuK.M4TNan2qp3yt2ku65J4g0ifBtmBa6aUjw U71GW__LV5LCyYjN1Klk3Z88xh62GSN_Ugf8LeP.Od9_jlv3dqsCnQB1bn8V Nq2Et6uLYrU0uS3bhIZTKa0SSPPQuCXl6imvWqKM38KC.CEFc9HEMrD25IlX 2S9uvNw73C4pyTzcvZnJgbVQfbuAGNERJMsOR4KwH0Ze1gaT_yheZE0Su1he MozT6iZpBynF1x7fjlWnRojo9Me_0ZlxDyjB81YlHtrsxNBcYpPcceq00 Received: from [70.209.196.107] by web121105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2014 21:50:36 PDT V2hpbGUgdmlzaXRpbmcgYSBUaWdlciB3ZWJzaXRlIApodHRwOi8vc3RldmVtY2tlbHZpZS53b3JkcHJlc3MuY29tLzIwMTIvMTEvMTYvdGhlLWRldmVsb3BtZW50LWFuZC1leHRpbmN0aW9uLW9mLXRoZS1zdW5iZWFtLXRpZ2VyLwogCkkgbm90ZWQgS0VQIDc1NCBvbiBhIE1rSS4KQSBsaXR0bGUgZWFybHksIGJ1dCBub3Qgb3V0IG9mIHRoZSBxdWVzdGlvbi4KCkJyaWFuIEdsZW5uIApQLk8uIEJveCA1NzggCkp1bGlhbiwgQ0EgOTIwMzYtMDU3OCAKNzE0LjM0NS45ODgzIAoKQjk0NzAyMDhMUlhGRSBHVCAKQjkBMAEBAQE- References: <1413504569.21754.YahooMailNeo@web121101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <000601cfe9af$b902c9b0$2b085d10$@Verizon.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 21:50:36 -0700 From: Brian Glenn To: 'Tiger List' Subject: Re: [Tigers] California license plate sequence Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net While visiting a Tiger website http://stevemckelvie.wordpress.com/2012/11/16/the-development-and-extinction-of-the-sunbeam-tiger/ I noted KEP 754 on a MkI. A little early, but not out of the question. Brian Glenn P.O. Box 578 Julian, CA 92036-0578 714.345.9883 B9470208LRXFE GT B9471101LRXFE B9472615LRXFE B382000846LRXFE B382001212LRXFE On Thursday, October 16, 2014 8:47 PM, "Teepen, Jere" wrote: My car has OWF xxx, but the plates are not original to the car. The plates were original to a Sunbeam Alpine that was from the area where I currently live (Whittier, CA). Did the letter portion designate a particular area where the plates were issued or where the owner of the car resided? I ask as I grew up in a small town in Ohio (the 60's, baby) and the plates for the residents all started with SS or ST. This was the case for many years and when the plates changed color each year the car would receive replacement plates with the same letters/numbers. I am not sure how long this practice was used and I seriously doubt they still do it. Just curious, Jere Teepen -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Buck Trippel Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:12 PM To: 'Brian Glenn'; 'Tiger List' Subject: Re: [Tigers] California license plate sequence My wife's 66 MkIA (382002000) has its original black plates with the plate number STV759 Buck Trippel. -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Glenn Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:09 PM To: Tiger List Subject: [Tigers] California license plate sequence I've just reviewed the e-article by Hagerty regarding getting vintage license plates for California. >From personal knowledge I know that the gold on black PAV ### went on a 1964 car (my first car ;-) and XIA ### on a 1969 (dad's Doge Coronet). What I'm wondering is if anyone has an approximate knowledge of what sequences would be appropriate for each production year of the Tiger, i.e. 1964 through 1967. 1964 XXX ### through XXX ###, etc. Anecdotes with the letter sequence from those with original plates would be great. Thanks Brian Brian Glenn P.O. Box 578 Julian, CA 92036-0578 714.345.9883 B9470208LRXFE GT B9471101LRXFE B9472615LRXFE B382000846LRXFE B382001212LRXF _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 16:32:25 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7477A2585203 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 16:32:25 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (fed1rmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCECA25806FB for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 16:32:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo209 ([68.230.241.160]) by fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141017223532.CTTQ32389.fed1rmfepo103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo209> for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:35:32 -0400 Received: from studio ([70.187.136.237]) by fed1rmimpo209 with cox id 4NbY1p00657VpAW01NbYB1; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:35:32 -0400 a=kbUFZLUlNmJ1UlLbU3857A==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=5mGX7HhlrzqEBWJF6ZIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=kbUFZLUlNmJ1UlLbU3857A==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=dsmtjoy@cox.net From: "Darrell Mountjoy" To: References: <4J551p00b0NyJgq01J56e5> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:35:31 -0700 Thread-Index: AQHlbgCYEdryM24Rqk8jhRrcMRspTZwJym8g Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 234 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Brian, Before '56 the CA plates were black with a white alpha-numeric sequence. The plates were not as high but were elongated from what we know today. I don't recall how many characters there were but I think there were seven, like "A123456" In 1956 CA went to the standard sized license plate we know today. It was yellow with a black alpha-numeric sequence of six characters, "AAA 123". In 1963 CA changed to a black plate with a yellow alpha-numeric sequence, "AAA 123", retaining six characters. I don't believe the letters were area specific. At the time our family in SoCal got their plates through Auto Club and the plates were a "JEX" prefix. An aunt got her plates in L.A. and they had a "JER" prefix. I'm sure other areas of the state had earlier as well as later prefixes. Somewhere around 1970 CA changed from a black plate to a blue plate with a yellow numeric-alpha sequence, "123 AAA". Note CA changed the letter and number positions. I had a 1969 car with an "XTH" prefix. Later I had a 1971 vehicle whose plate had an "ESA" suffix. In '73 I had another car with a "JEP" suffix. Sometime in the late '70s or early '80s CA ran out of their numeric-alpha sequence so it went to a seven character license plate, still blue with yellow characters. To accommodate seven characters on the standard sized plate the size of the characters was reduced. I think it was at the time of the '84 Olympics in L.A. CA came out with a white Olympic plate. That opened the gate to all the vanity and special interest plates one sees today. Yep, I'm old... Darrell -----Original Message----- From: Brian Glenn Subject: [Tigers] California license plate sequence I've just reviewed the e-article by Hagerty regarding getting vintage license plates for California. >From personal knowledge I know that the gold on black PAV ### went on a 1964 car (my first car ;-) and XIA ### on a 1969 (dad's Doge Coronet). What I'm wondering is if anyone has an approximate knowledge of what sequences would be appropriate for each production year of the Tiger, i.e. 1964 through 1967. 1964 XXX ### through XXX ###, etc. Anecdotes with the letter sequence from those with original plates would be great. Thanks Brian ****************** _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 17:00:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2AA625809A2 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 17:00:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm7-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm7-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.167]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A48A25806FB for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 16:53:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2014 22:57:01 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.245] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2014 22:57:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1059.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Oct 2014 22:57:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 92245 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Oct 2014 22:57:01 -0000 s=s1024; t=1413586621; bh=Izfl/+8RHcQZ/qWPs173kmXJQaF9eqhA4Fc7ZsXkF18=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=2PjERKqp4aj0eV7XLfZQtaOTpSwX+Q/BmnXzxZ4uX1/J1nCdghzFWN2bFXCQT19vVcw3qu/ykbUBCEfwKE6zjEyXZHHBj/WnPX64QNUrngAWLU9YkWRpRXnrsf7AYUJHkRr81V4RSm6+eY5XXxNsxj9yKGx2Z2hvoclzU2lHvns= j8t25geKkg94EpvYmNywpvJqdRoTmxHFbwn0R4wZSqc3tjIDSWTlms8o5CNq ZpEwStZU0_2WcUS54iO7wfnnaIPJeM1dr__AJKsOI3Sx0MnqDiRDr0T.RTGV KaWSTAFx8G87A78vqHO.bfJdRp7W0x9mcevBmPfymCPpjI7gGkrLz.0voNmy eGaS4JQCYMxXp_kQOwN10lbpKs0WzzZShgtNZYXxbXawnXEy.EnTXfXOMWoG LddxsEMAZwhuvkTuJBMLAuL5zvxplAKm1udTq21a1HEGix_f6mW3G5QJgtCE A1IdsL0BKDIfi0laRoL4_11nVNBNPlqURdrshLTPL2T1T98xEtlq17tIVIRb qNVFe1w_gQ61Na6DdSn6xaRNTrLZskHzAUlyEZ4BpchW4POApX_eq_XRehxi SwFK12PBlW6l_oJAJAet4sGSqs5X1j2Q1yq16IRKU2blW7SNe7i4Jw8.NyPS rFf02_HiujyMZxlNqFKhoBBd42T47tGFZlelkHChDTF5EXT1cR91tvq4z8st fo60kC18PvzADClQyaYT600c8_Vp2B1CNgSuvaHe6C5l4vJ7f_.zYV_K6khO LRYUrptohQK47l2t.Zxyz8jQ4fIO2Z8v8.Fn_G8TnX297wWVfBrVmI2sN4i2 X.7xT8SC9VEICsdylCTM8FlUM7Tx4hwfSTQ6X1.q6r3Cmt5oNcdUOv4CfSrF 9O6si.yvdjBgZ9rtTJFc9 Received: from [108.42.122.229] by web125205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:56:58 PDT Rm91bmQgdGhpcyB3aGlsZSByZXNlYXJjaGluZyB0aGUgc3ViamVjdCBmb3IgbXkgY2FyLiAgICBNeSA2NyBBbHBpbmUgdGhhdCB3YXMgc29sZCBpbiA2OCBoYWQgYSBwbGF0ZSBzdGFydGluZyB3aXRoIFYuICBEbyBhIHNlYXJjaCBvbiBpbWFnZXMgb2YgQ2FsaWZvcm5pYSBjYXJzIGZyb20gYW55IGdpdmVuIHllYXIgaW4gdGhlIDYwJ3MgYW5kIHlvdSB3aWxsIHNlZSBhIHZhcmlhdGlvbiBpbiB0aGUgbGV0dGVycyB0aGUgcGxhdGVzIHN0YXJ0IHdpdGggZm9yIHRoYXQgZ2l2ZW4geWVhci4KCgpUaGUgQ2FsaWYBMAEBAQE- References: <1413504569.21754.YahooMailNeo@web121101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <000601cfe9af$b902c9b0$2b085d10$@Verizon.net> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:56:58 -0700 From: Douglas Lyle To: 'Brian Glenn' , 'Tiger List' , Buck Trippel Subject: Re: [Tigers] California license plate sequence Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Found this while researching the subject for my car. My 67 Alpine that was sold in 68 had a plate starting with V. Do a search on images of California cars from any given year in the 60's and you will see a variation in the letters the plates start with for that given year. The California black plate was the first plate the state has issued that has remained in circulation, prior to that plates were replaced every few years, 1951 and 1956 were the recent times. In 1963 every vehicle in the state was issued a new plate starting with AAA000 for automobiles and A00000 for commercial (trucks). To see these plates on a vehicle use to signify that a vehicle is an original California Car and has been in the state its entire life (for the most part, more on that later). There are a lot of misconceptions about these plates and I hope to clear some of those up. In 1963 every DMV office was sent a stack of plates to be issued as part of this replacement run, at that time one might have been able to determine a county based on the sequence but aside from that California does NOT have series assigned to particular counties. The initial release of plates used up everything from AAA to about RDA, it is virtually impossible to determine the proper sequence for a 1963 or 1964 vehicle as they were caught up in the mass reissue of plates. In general it is commonly accepted that the plates ran out near the end of 1969 so it might be possible to see a 1970 model year car with a black plate (trucks through 1971, more later.). On all plates in California regardless of where the letters fall the numbers change first then the letters so you have AAA000 b AAA002 through AAA999 b AAB000. In any system you will always see vehicles that are older that the sequence, this can happen when it is brought in from out of state or needed replacement plates for some other reason. You should never see a plate that is too old for the vehicle this is a problem that you will see with YOM (Year of Manufacture) programs where you can put old plates of vehicles that qualify. Understanding the distribution one can better select a plate that might have been issued to the vehicle when new. This list outlines approximate sequences based on issue date not model year * 1963 b AAA b RDA * 1964 b RDB b SDR * 1965 b SDS b TEH * 1966 b TEI b UGC * 1967 b UGD b WEI * 1968 b WEJ b YCH * 1969 b YCI b ZZZ MrMopar.com Doug Lyle MrMopar.com California Black Plates YOM (Year of Manufacture) Process Vehicles not in the system and Nonresident Vehicles (from out of state) Reassignement of plates (to vehicl... View on www.mrmopar.com Preview by Yahoo ________________________________ From: Buck Trippel To: 'Brian Glenn' ; 'Tiger List' Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] California license plate sequence My wife's 66 MkIA (382002000) has its original black plates with the plate number STV759 Buck Trippel. -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Glenn Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:09 PM To: Tiger List Subject: [Tigers] California license plate sequence I've just reviewed the e-article by Hagerty regarding getting vintage license plates for California. >From personal knowledge I know that the gold on black PAV ### went on a 1964 car (my first car ;-) and XIA ### on a 1969 (dad's Doge Coronet). What I'm wondering is if anyone has an approximate knowledge of what sequences would be appropriate for each production year of the Tiger, i.e. 1964 through 1967. 1964 XXX ### through XXX ###, etc. Anecdotes with the letter sequence from those with original plates would be great. Thanks Brian Brian Glenn P.O. Box 578 Julian, CA 92036-0578 714.345.9883 B9470208LRXFE GT B9471101LRXFE B9472615LRXFE B382000846LRXFE B382001212LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 18:00:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2892225845EA for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:00:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AB112580963 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 17:58:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from user1PC ([unknown] [108.47.32.37]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0NDM006K05FD07B0@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:02:04 -0500 (CDT) From: "Tom Witt" To: References: <1413504569.21754.YahooMailNeo@web121101.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <000601cfe9af$b902c9b0$2b085d10$@Verizon.net> <1413586618.61448.YahooMailNeo@web125205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 17:01:53 -0700 Subject: Re: [Tigers] California license plate sequence Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Very interesting. It would explain the broad spectrum of plates over a very short period of time. For what it is worth, like Jere I had a car with OWF### plates. It was a '64 Falcon (260 at that). I also currently own a '63 Rambler American with FVM###. Perhaps the good side of this is the large number of options available. -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Lyle Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 3:56 PM To: 'Brian Glenn' ; 'Tiger List' ; Buck Trippel Subject: Re: [Tigers] California license plate sequence Found this while researching the subject for my car. My 67 Alpine that was sold in 68 had a plate starting with V. Do a search on images of California cars from any given year in the 60's and you will see a variation in the letters the plates start with for that given year. The California black plate was the first plate the state has issued that has remained in circulation, prior to that plates were replaced every few years, 1951 and 1956 were the recent times. In 1963 every vehicle in the state was issued a new plate starting with AAA000 for automobiles and A00000 for commercial (trucks). To see these plates on a vehicle use to signify that a vehicle is an original California Car and has been in the state its entire life (for the most part, more on that later). There are a lot of misconceptions about these plates and I hope to clear some of those up. In 1963 every DMV office was sent a stack of plates to be issued as part of this replacement run, at that time one might have been able to determine a county based on the sequence but aside from that California does NOT have series assigned to particular counties. The initial release of plates used up everything from AAA to about RDA, it is virtually impossible to determine the proper sequence for a 1963 or 1964 vehicle as they were caught up in the mass reissue of plates. In general it is commonly accepted that the plates ran out near the end of 1969 so it might be possible to see a 1970 model year car with a black plate (trucks through 1971, more later.). On all plates in California regardless of where the letters fall the numbers change first then the letters so you have AAA000 b AAA002 through AAA999 b AAB000. In any system you will always see vehicles that are older that the sequence, this can happen when it is brought in from out of state or needed replacement plates for some other reason. You should never see a plate that is too old for the vehicle this is a problem that you will see with YOM (Year of Manufacture) programs where you can put old plates of vehicles that qualify. Understanding the distribution one can better select a plate that might have been issued to the vehicle when new. This list outlines approximate sequences based on issue date not model year * 1963 b AAA b RDA * 1964 b RDB b SDR * 1965 b SDS b TEH * 1966 b TEI b UGC * 1967 b UGD b WEI * 1968 b WEJ b YCH * 1969 b YCI b ZZZ MrMopar.com Doug Lyle MrMopar.com California Black Plates YOM (Year of Manufacture) Process Vehicles not in the system and Nonresident Vehicles (from out of state) Reassignement of plates (to vehicl... View on www.mrmopar.com Preview by Yahoo ________________________________ From: Buck Trippel To: 'Brian Glenn' ; 'Tiger List' Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [Tigers] California license plate sequence My wife's 66 MkIA (382002000) has its original black plates with the plate number STV759 Buck Trippel. -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brian Glenn Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 5:09 PM To: Tiger List Subject: [Tigers] California license plate sequence I've just reviewed the e-article by Hagerty regarding getting vintage license plates for California. >From personal knowledge I know that the gold on black PAV ### went on a 1964 car (my first car ;-) and XIA ### on a 1969 (dad's Doge Coronet). What I'm wondering is if anyone has an approximate knowledge of what sequences would be appropriate for each production year of the Tiger, i.e. 1964 through 1967. 1964 XXX ### through XXX ###, etc. Anecdotes with the letter sequence from those with original plates would be great. Thanks Brian Brian Glenn P.O. Box 578 Julian, CA 92036-0578 714.345.9883 B9470208LRXFE GT B9471101LRXFE B9472615LRXFE B382000846LRXFE B382001212LRXFE _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 19:16:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC2D2584595 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:16:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f193.google.com (mail-ie0-f193.google.com [209.85.223.193]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 094012580963 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:12:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f193.google.com with SMTP id rp18so437890iec.4 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:15:29 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5Fb0CKeh//pjuJDo48U0J/0O2Wu7rx+JtTdvLjCm8wc=; b=m/ZczfytB85fbaqQNeELYTv7fPWNz8GBSiDA77lFs4fGuXQ7nhkZ4ulQzBYI2DRBhj m/QCFCDuShFGyonuNZZDUyZyA41IuVF2Jg8fmUcUtEQMn2epax1kX3kt5m2uNdbGoURt N/spnGZnMAHihm/gFEzqJbPvRYR9y0hrIzn7Z4IS9pbkuDTDvHVwM6T8/Adx3DZ3SEPN b6qOZRC1666aO01j0KrWEErl77k57MRbvhlewmg4vRFCJNjwyc9JT/0Sa7PywwJVROHX Bgg74TrGvYIqkEJIXLBp0NZ9xvSDIfhgXGv9nSjXPMFEZCDtOr9mvkYsEYU4GP25JJx5 IUOA== l1mr2624297igx.10.1413594929860; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:15:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.31.16 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:15:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:15:29 -0400 From: Stuart Brennan To: Tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Signs (Non Tiger) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net In the last year or so I have noticed the appearance, along Interstate highways here in MA, of signs indicating where power lines are crossing the highways. Now, if these lines were low enough that there was a danger of a truck snagging them, I could understand it. But no, most of these lines appear to be well above the road, 50, 75, maybe 100 feet above the tallest trucks. Anything that would fit under the bridges is in no danger. Does anyone know the reason for this? Is this happening around the country? Certainly some sign makers are being enriched, but is any other purpose being served? Stu _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 19:30:49 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115ED25845F6 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:30:49 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2FB12580963 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:24:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ownerHP ([unknown] [98.117.220.143]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0NDM00JJR9DOE530@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 20:27:26 -0500 (CDT) From: "Clyde McLaughlin" To: References: <882AB98E6F9D4D499025113321FFE18E@D58P2B71> <1719490651.17150900.1400691260288.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <1400695596.83648.YahooMailNeo@web140804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1391351153.10771925.1413575342518.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:27:30 -0400 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: AQG2DMo9Vyy4JLu6B48cssZeQ6SJ+AI8aA4GAltfJmwBnZ/f7pw3HroA Subject: [Tigers] FW: ELECTRICAL THEORY BY JOSEPH LUCAS] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net From: rfolia@comcast.net [mailto:rfolia@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 3:49 PM Subject: Fwd: ELECTRICAL THEORY BY JOSEPH LUCAS] _____ From: "Pinnegar, Mike" To: "Pinnegar, Mike" Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:06:36 PM Subject: ELECTRICAL THEORY BY JOSEPH LUCAS] _____ It is a few years since I have seen this, but the logic is inescapable.---particularly if you have owned an English car. ELECTRICAL THEORY BY JOSEPH LUCAS Positive ground depends on proper circuit functioning, which is the transmission of negative ions by retention of the visible spectral manifestation known as bsmokeb. Smoke is the thing that makes electrical circuits work. We know this to be true because every time one lets the smoke out of an electrical circuit, it stops working. This can be verified repeatedly through empirical testing. For example, if one places a copper bar across the terminals of a battery, prodigious quantities of smoke are liberated and the battery shortly ceases to function. In addition, if one observes smoke escaping from an electrical component such as a Lucas voltage regulator, it will also be observed that the component no longer functions. The logic is elementary and inescapable! The function of the wiring harness is to conduct the smoke from one device to another. When the wiring springs a leak and lets all the smoke out of the system, nothing works afterward. Starter motors were considered unsuitable for British motorcycles for some time largely because they consumed large quantities of smoke, requiring very unsightly large wires. It has been reported that Lucas electrical components are possibly more prone to electrical leakage than their Bosch, Japanese or American counterparts. Experts point out that this is because Lucas is British, and all things British leak. British engines leak oil, British shock absorbers, hydraulic forks and disk brake systems leak fluid, British tires leak air and British Intelligence leaks national defense secrets. Therefore, it follows that British electrical systems must leak smoke. Once again, the logic is clear and inescapable. In conclusion, the basic concept of transmission of electrical energy in the form of smoke provides a logical explanation of the mysteries of electrical components especially British units manufactured by Joseph Lucas, Ltd. And remember: bA gentleman does not motor about after dark.b Joseph Lucas bThe Prince of Darknessb 1842-1903 A few Lucas quips: The Lucas motto: bGet home before dark.b Lucas is the patent holder for the short circuit. Lucas - Inventor of the first intermittent wiper. Lucas - Inventor of the self-dimming headlamp. The three-position Lucas switch--DIM, FLICKER and OFF. The other three switch settings--SMOKE, SMOLDER and IGNITE. The Original Anti-Theft Device - Lucas Electrics. If Lucas made guns, wars would not start Back in the b70s, Lucas decided to diversify its product line and began manufacturing vacuum cleaners. It was the only product they offered which did not suck. Q: Why do the British drink warm beer? A: Because Lucas makes their refrigerators. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 19:30:59 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB31258460C for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:30:59 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E923E25809EC for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:24:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ownerHP ([unknown] [98.117.220.143]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0NDM00JJR9DOE530@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 20:27:26 -0500 (CDT) From: "Clyde McLaughlin" To: Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:27:30 -0400 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac/qcPo2ZR05ww1KStyBQUfmkDRiYQ== Subject: [Tigers] tiger rear brake parts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Listers, anyone have some rear brake parts? Need from the backing plate to the drum..also any shims to set axle bearing preload?? Thanks Clyde 1173 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 19:35:24 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 006BD2585380 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:35:24 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f49.google.com (mail-pa0-f49.google.com [209.85.220.49]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EE32580963 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:35:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id hz1so1774469pad.8 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:38:24 -0700 (PDT) h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=9tV1c8BqHrwLwbK3p3DDkAsrpGAXcMBUzVkENbwZ1PU=; b=TENw5OplJ7BO5stKMI3xJWl2T9ZGlRAwQUfF3aYKohQRJryVzpNsshPlRZ18nWZ+PV DWPPPGoDMWIfLGdfPr5vhri5oShiD6bTHzAvCzcEvrTvKlY/zTdUIH3qb06udWSl8DqT qpQ8z2JnObZLHa73hR/EIsYY1Z2qDNOM8pVRP3Le6ymkloX8OLh9MdUFqmNn5mmVV0Us d/qwG1LhnqA0ir/p4VFRG/Cd0Ai8bqULU8TW97Z+Bz4q8NpPh9E/a2i/BgVyViQScBk9 SjirAuiL/O0yA+hnTgWU4dKs10nfWA52cLmrEQ3aKZWtl+VWyG+OFmfoSVq2LNuh+X90 uNAQ== aj4mr12210468pad.116.1413596304021; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:38:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.3] (cpe-76-167-32-241.socal.res.rr.com. [76.167.32.241]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id yt3sm2624997pbc.34.2014.10.17.18.38.22 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:38:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Jay Laifman Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 18:38:21 -0700 References: <882AB98E6F9D4D499025113321FFE18E@D58P2B71> <1719490651.17150900.1400691260288.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <1400695596.83648.YahooMailNeo@web140804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1391351153.10771925.1413575342518.JavaMail.root@comcast.net> <005701cfea72$afa3c270$0eeb4750$@verizon.net> To: "Clyde McLaughlin" Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] FW: ELECTRICAL THEORY BY JOSEPH LUCAS] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Ok I do think these things are funny. But I have to say that in 35 years of Alpine ownership (and now Tiger ownership), I've never had any electric problems that I didn't cause by adding gauges and radio - except for one alternator went bad in 1980 when driving back from Disneyland with my sister (though it was a mechanical failure that I fixed on the side of the road). I've heard that it wasn't Lucas, but the quality of the parts that the companies could afford. Lucas had better stuff, and would supply it per order. So maybe Rootes paid more than BMC did for its cars (at least in my experience). But, I still enjoy these jokes. On Oct 17, 2014, at 6:27 PM, Clyde McLaughlin wrote: > From: rfolia@comcast.net [mailto:rfolia@comcast.net] > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 3:49 PM > Subject: Fwd: ELECTRICAL THEORY BY JOSEPH LUCAS] > > > > > > > > _____ > > From: "Pinnegar, Mike" > To: "Pinnegar, Mike" > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:06:36 PM > Subject: ELECTRICAL THEORY BY JOSEPH LUCAS] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > It is a few years since I have seen this, but the logic is > inescapable.---particularly if you have owned an English car. > > > > ELECTRICAL THEORY BY JOSEPH LUCAS > > > > Positive ground depends on proper circuit functioning, which is the > transmission of negative ions by retention of the visible spectral > manifestation known as bsmokeb. > Smoke is the thing that makes electrical circuits work. We know this to be > true because every time one lets the smoke out of an electrical circuit, it > stops working. This can be verified repeatedly through empirical testing. > > For example, if one places a copper bar across the terminals of a battery, > prodigious quantities of smoke are liberated and the battery shortly ceases to > function. In addition, if one observes smoke escaping from an electrical > component such as a Lucas voltage regulator, it will also be observed that the > component no longer functions. The logic is elementary and inescapable! > > The function of the wiring harness is to conduct the smoke from one device to > another. When the wiring springs a leak and lets all the smoke out of the > system, nothing works afterward. > > Starter motors were considered unsuitable for British motorcycles for some > time largely because they consumed large quantities of smoke, requiring very > unsightly large wires. > It has been reported that Lucas electrical components are possibly more prone > to electrical leakage than their Bosch, Japanese or American counterparts. > Experts point out that this is because Lucas is British, and all things > British leak. British engines leak oil, British shock absorbers, hydraulic > forks and disk brake systems leak fluid, British tires leak air and British > Intelligence leaks national defense secrets. > > Therefore, it follows that British electrical systems must leak smoke. Once > again, the logic is clear and inescapable. > > In conclusion, the basic concept of transmission of electrical energy in the > form of smoke provides a logical explanation of the mysteries of electrical > components especially British units manufactured by Joseph Lucas, Ltd. > > And remember: bA gentleman does not motor about after dark.b > > Joseph Lucas bThe Prince of Darknessb > 1842-1903 > > A few Lucas quips: > > The Lucas motto: bGet home before dark.b > > Lucas is the patent holder for the short circuit. > > Lucas - Inventor of the first intermittent wiper. > > Lucas - Inventor of the self-dimming headlamp. > > The three-position Lucas switch--DIM, FLICKER and OFF. The other three switch > settings--SMOKE, SMOLDER and IGNITE. > > The Original Anti-Theft Device - Lucas Electrics. > > If Lucas made guns, wars would not start > > Back in the b70s, Lucas decided to diversify its product line and began > manufacturing vacuum cleaners. It was the only product they offered which did > not suck. > > Q: Why do the British drink warm beer? > > A: Because Lucas makes their refrigerators. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 17 20:01:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D79782585495 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 20:01:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m1.mx.aol.com (omr-m1.mx.aol.com [64.12.224.134]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01E6B2584486 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 19:54:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mbd02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mbd02.mx.aol.com [172.26.252.16]) by omr-m1.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 2666038000093; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:57:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mld001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mld001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.122.79]) by mtaomg-mbd02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id AC87038000081; Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:57:26 -0400 (EDT) From: CoolVT@aol.com Full-name: CoolVT Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:57:26 -0400 To: stubrennan352@gmail.com, Tigers@autox.team.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1413597447; bh=J1H0wOfjAJfaisVeDRCqWExk3mNLFnluI3nojPa/uB0=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TeEIUd5iGh28GJov5lEQ6dnxAP8+BOqjrw8MM8MoXSgnYPBfU35Fssl7MeQCn8cxE HQq7u74Y0m430G/xLAY5WVacXJc4Z/n0OOCqjqgoPp51fijWkF/EqSPGMa9/8DUfPO t6cId/Qmb+0PKg1RglW5URUda9hW5KKX+Kw/kTdk= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1afc105441c90654fe Subject: Re: [Tigers] Signs (Non Tiger) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Up in the mountain area the danger of high wires is for collision of gliders (planes)and human gliders. But, not sure what good a sign on the ground would do for those 2 situations. Normally they put basketball sized orange balls on the wire for visibility rather than signs at ground level. So, a mystery looking for a better explanation. Mark In a message dated 10/17/2014 9:19:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stubrennan352@gmail.com writes: In the last year or so I have noticed the appearance, along Interstate highways here in MA, of signs indicating where power lines are crossing the highways. Now, if these lines were low enough that there was a danger of a truck snagging them, I could understand it. But no, most of these lines appear to be well above the road, 50, 75, maybe 100 feet above the tallest trucks. Anything that would fit under the bridges is in no danger. Does anyone know the reason for this? Is this happening around the country? Certainly some sign makers are being enriched, but is any other purpose being served? Stu _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 07:22:52 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DF0A2585621 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 07:22:52 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from vms173023pub.verizon.net (vms173023pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.23]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302C52580934 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 07:22:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ownerHP ([unknown] [98.117.220.143]) by vms173023.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0NDN00IXX6MNNRC0@vms173023.mailsrvcs.net> for tigers@autox.team.net; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 08:25:36 -0500 (CDT) From: "Clyde McLaughlin" To: Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 09:25:38 -0400 Thread-index: Ac/q1o9TRnYj2JBgTJaXydj+keRnVQ== Content-language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] rear brakes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I'm looking for rear brake parts to set up a spare rear Tiger rear end..I know the the shoes and hydrolic parts are the same as Alpine IV, what about the backing plates and drums?? Any one have that info?? Thanks Clyde _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 08:03:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D9825856CA for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 08:03:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-36.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D94A2580697 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 07:57:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004960.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s9IDx0IZ011615; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 07:00:23 -0700 Received: by sj1-dm103.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a207) id sj1-dm103.543deafb.2b313; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 07:00:21 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.145.178]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:00:15 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Clyde McLaughlin'" , Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:00:11 -0400 Thread-index: Ac/qcPo2ZR05ww1KStyBQUfmkDRiYQAakNcg engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-10-18_02:2014-10-17,2014-10-18,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1410180145 Subject: Re: [Tigers] tiger rear brake parts Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Clyde You should be able to order a shim kit from any of the Jeep parts dealers. I ordered a set from 4 wheel drive - Part # CRO805524. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Clyde McLaughlin Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 9:28 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] tiger rear brake parts Hi Listers, anyone have some rear brake parts? Need from the backing plate to the drum..also any shims to set axle bearing preload?? Thanks Clyde 1173 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 08:33:44 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73541258573E for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 08:33:44 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-36.everyone.net (sitemail2.everyone.net [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2FC425855C2 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 08:24:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004960.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s9IEROL7031139; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 07:27:24 -0700 Received: by dm0213.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a207) id dm0213.543dead5.2cc1a; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 07:27:22 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.145.178]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:27:16 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'Clyde McLaughlin'" , Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:27:12 -0400 Thread-index: Ac/q1o9TRnYj2JBgTJaXydj+keRnVQACCawg engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-10-18_02:2014-10-17,2014-10-18,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1410180151 Subject: Re: [Tigers] rear brakes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Clyde Looking through the Alpine and Tiger Parts List: Backing plate for Tiger has its own part # - my guess here is there are differences at the mounting flange to the axle - it might be possible to drill the correct pattern for the Tiger on a SIV backing plate but I don't know for sure. Drum is only listed in the Alpine Parts List - same drum from SIII onward Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Clyde McLaughlin Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 9:26 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] rear brakes I'm looking for rear brake parts to set up a spare rear Tiger rear end..I know the the shoes and hydrolic parts are the same as Alpine IV, what about the backing plates and drums?? Any one have that info?? Thanks Clyde _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 10:04:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB1725848BE for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:04:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f53.google.com (mail-oi0-f53.google.com [209.85.218.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1721E25804CB for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:02:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f53.google.com with SMTP id v63so1917878oia.12 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 09:05:17 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=b7P+PE7UkqUjNXqwkqM5ESkVclOm1P189C7Y1XL7sxg=; b=qd9PbMrSbW1yGlRDgrZQszKKLFLj5uZizTf1xDNldGgaJ92Aek67aMTDKM6jwYDh4H pCDCtJ3W7F5S6AZcB4GlG+tjfES+4Yfsc2/OV6Sdj1DZ5yVFFSPwJEXjR6TNbRru4Pav 3+r4Zrqkb+Hi+cpfdhRW6MQY5HNPbn3zOOS2shXKgTg3p/LYuWthsNV1HesBeGyinVt+ dWWhVj00IqfwVZC9JEpmz4xC5MTLd/1XiD2zdB0SBvtN+k73hiHxf6HiFHQTr7ejtYKJ FsGJHMy5dgzNacDv9OCFPIiIstphCd7fl1/h4JGuJY9R0fxOphqkuZw4bAtq7PnxZ57c ZCig== jj10mr13302019obc.27.1413648317767; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 09:05:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.33.101 with HTTP; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 09:05:17 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:05:17 -0400 From: Jim Sencindiver To: Stuart Brennan Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] Signs (Non Tiger) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Is there any construction in the area of the signs? Here in Northern VA they are constructing HOT (High Occupancy/Toll) lanes in the median of I-95 and wherever there are overhead power lines, they have a sign. I would guess it's some regulation now, since some construction activities involve vehicles/equipment that can be significantly taller than your average tractor-trailer! Keep on Tigering! > -- > Jim Sencindiver B382100451/TAC 448 http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 10:49:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B571A258476B for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:49:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from outbound01.webhero.com (outbound01.webhero.com [209.217.52.104]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6002D258069C for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:48:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 32186 invoked by uid 10000); 18 Oct 2014 16:51:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO HPLaptop) (70.174.58.58) by wh-qmail03.webhero.com with SMTP; 18 Oct 2014 16:51:23 -0000 From: To: Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:51:06 -0400 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: Ac/q87INP/0zJVaPQjiEOMbCN51mMA== Cc: john.procida@gmail.com Subject: [Tigers] Calif plates Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net My Tiger was bought on Dec. 28, 1965 (as a 1966 model based on foreign model years scheme devised by the state) from the dealer in Vallejo, California with plate "RXF 371". This number goes against some of the discussion on this forum such as plate series going only up to about "RDA". We might be getting a little off balance in this discussion because we forget how slowly things moved back in the day. If a location received a allotment of plates to assigned to vehicle under their jurisdiction then those plates would be distributed as slowly or quickly as the local needs dictated. I would imagine that some "pohick" office might still have some of their original allotment of plates until the new series came out. That would allow a newer car to have much "older" plates. I don't remember California DMV policies back then, but I know that in some states the plates belonged to the owner and the plates would just be transferred from your old car to your brand new car at the time of purchase. Good discussion, though.. Very entertaining and valuable if kept in balance. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 11:20:07 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9D4258582E for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 11:20:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm5-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm5-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E942B2580852 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 11:19:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.101.130] by nm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2014 17:22:58 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.254] by tm18.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2014 17:22:58 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1046.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2014 17:22:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 15849 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Oct 2014 17:22:58 -0000 s=s1024; t=1413652978; bh=W2vyLcCYd7Zp0ZavWRSIRz1vS7qXhIEOSkqzMj/VoIM=; h=References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WycDkDOJt8nk1X3JLQ8PTCj0Q2Thb5DSPkQ52hz84l/qxsb6tyFsWBQ3lMrlRSFSx0FCX2S76GtO4dGTE8B4RzVcG/ys71pwsVVuMe0Lp6MS5mhKoHyTzqaT/E3BBq5ELeosE1wGrDyBzINe8z4mny7I+W5uAXNFMET57xmVZlA= YO2wPQ6oLdVa5Sf7PwfI4LUTBE8fLg42XBGCEhQyNiQYqcVr2j3Qu9Ea9cVW tt5x_ZTwUKdGSfCjxXV.Yswzy7h_7jq8GuRYm73uz85AuKB2yNqu29GXTEJ7 PR2crdOAzVJ06Nzp7BC03YTCsE1s5FBwlSRsVzQL.m3Y0jbRm3I3PMmDRMjC AGEK63Iy5tAVgt.7KYnRH4hxb8ETnTPSpCX4HutfeQXL2Hcz60tRg0EIPfwP 0w3q1bUv89flokULdbjXE_pbtB1KBgxlmn62a1Ypd_xpyqRhZRvz8h.XG13T toiwunMDq9yr7LpU8INlqkAJOVBSAS5r17g3gGp1BzpS1FQPLD9PzKymImA5 5LIIN.Ddu_mbG05WgLUcwc8CZLwyibMpgqPZe7J3tTXGJVpcuq1YyhbvEylJ uhC2ds5VnhDpiSX1M9SzJwXGEUxhO5YkjSnlJ32M90lx07QQjVcHjhvw9CDq 5R2EsJ6O1.D8FwGaR499GjM91WR5BgRew1vx0zasLqUuAg1Qe1XCiquGdSyJ .KkmAOe4HeTUtvrpLgs_feCmynoc94k7j Received: from [108.42.122.229] by web125201.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:22:58 PDT Sm9obiwgeW91IGhpdCB0aGUgbWFpbCBvbiB0aGUgaGVhZCBvbiB0aGlzLiAgICBUaGUgc21hbGxlciBETVYncyBtaWdodCBuZXZlciBnbyB0aHJvdWdoIGEgc3RhY2sgb2YgcGxhdGVzLiAgICBUYWtlIGZvciBpbnN0YW5jZSBhIGNpdHkgd2l0aCBtdWx0aXBsZSBjYXIgZGVhbGVyc2hpcHMuICAgIFdoZW4gdGhleSBzZWxsIGEgY2FyIHRoZXkgaGF2ZSB0byB0YWtlIHRoZWlyIHN0YWNrIG9mIHNvbGQgY29udHJhY3RzIGRvd24gdG8gdGhlIERNViBhbmQgdGhlbiBnZXQgcGxhdGVzIGZvciBhbGwgdGhlIGNhcnMBMAEBAQE- References: <014f01cfeaf3$b64ce940$22e6bbc0$@com> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 10:22:58 -0700 From: Douglas Lyle To: "johnp@ciseast.com" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Cc: "john.procida@gmail.com" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Calif plates Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net John, you hit the mail on the head on this. The smaller DMV's might never go through a stack of plates. Take for instance a city with multiple car dealerships. When they sell a car they have to take their stack of sold contracts down to the DMV and then get plates for all the cars they've sold. Take note next time you're at the DMV...there is usually a separate window for dealerships. So a busy dealership make deplete the local DMV very quickly and require them to restock faster than a small town DMV. I also have info that supports the fact that the DMV dispersed plates so certain counties got certain letter sequences. I'll try to dig the speadsheet up that shows this info. California has just recently changed the YOM program so depending on which office you go to you will hear of a variety of ways to assign your black plates to a car. I did this last month and they lady behind the counter told me I couldn't use the plate because even though the lettering started with VAP the plate was stamped with a 63. I explained that all CA black plates were stamped with a 63 but she told me her husband's 69 Camaro was stamped with a 69. A quick Google search and I was able to educate her. The bottom line was that she was not going to let me YOM those plates for my Tiger. I had the 67 sticker and they made me stick it to the right side of the plate. They didn't used to do that. So now it looks like the way to do it is to have the YOM sticker on the right of the plate and then the current year sticker on the extra metal tab they give you. Again, your local DMV may tell you something different because I've also had them tell me the YOM sticker had to go on the left side where the month usually goes. Om my car I peeled off the 1967 sticker on the right and put on a current 2015 sticker. The key to a smooth transaction when getting YOM plates is to do your homework. Also make sure before buying plates that they are DMV clear and can be reassigned. In the end you'll know more about the process than the person behind the desk but it's worth it. I don't like new plates on any old car so I do the YOM program on every old car I own. I even managed to get blue plates on my 1970 GTO...and the YOM program only extends to 1969! Doug Lyle ________________________________ From: "johnp@ciseast.com" To: tigers@autox.team.net Cc: john.procida@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 9:51 AM Subject: [Tigers] Calif plates My Tiger was bought on Dec. 28, 1965 (as a 1966 model based on foreign model years scheme devised by the state) from the dealer in Vallejo, California with plate "RXF 371". This number goes against some of the discussion on this forum such as plate series going only up to about "RDA". We might be getting a little off balance in this discussion because we forget how slowly things moved back in the day. If a location received a allotment of plates to assigned to vehicle under their jurisdiction then those plates would be distributed as slowly or quickly as the local needs dictated. I would imagine that some "pohick" office might still have some of their original allotment of plates until the new series came out. That would allow a newer car to have much "older" plates. I don't remember California DMV policies back then, but I know that in some states the plates belonged to the owner and the plates would just be transferred from your old car to your brand new car at the time of purchase. Good discussion, though.. Very entertaining and valuable if kept in balance. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/douglasalyle@yahoo.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 12:34:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F98E25845FF for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:34:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omr-m06.mx.aol.com (omr-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.143.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B39925804F1 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:27:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-aai01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aai01.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.99]) by omr-m06.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 3892B700000B5; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:30:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-mla09b.mail.aol.com (core-mla09.mail.aol.com [172.27.37.9]) by mtaomg-aai01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4898438000087; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:30:30 -0400 (EDT) From: CoolVT@aol.com Full-name: CoolVT Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 14:30:30 -0400 To: jay.laifman@gmail.com, clydemclaughlin@verizon.net x-aol-global-disposition: G s=20140625; t=1413657031; bh=Y4kqSzknRsMRrYWn86O4mh/MbZ+lCTONUuVBIzq3pvI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mXMZ9Ny7bme17Ll9ElFIMeW+4xN0a6myaqA3JSYk5y1qZlLRSMRzxzHz2RRQY1Qej DJzLTnpnpCVyAH0+IkZmEFuEo1HDq6xBO5NYdHU2CXNDkihd1Qy6DsoVaIluopdqzy x1h5Qm/PI/lrXz9WQaK6TFMdeFSNvD2PIEuEHuyM= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b02635442b1c653bf Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] FW: ELECTRICAL THEORY BY JOSEPH LUCAS] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net To me the weakest part of Lucus wiring is the grounding system. Look at how our headlights are grounded. I remember an MGB that came with a sheet metal screw screwed into the firewall for a ground. Well an intermittent ground. I concur with Jay, other than ground I've had little problem with the Lucas system. In a message dated 10/18/2014 2:04:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jay.laifman@gmail.com writes: Ok I do think these things are funny. But I have to say that in 35 years of Alpine ownership (and now Tiger ownership), I've never had any electric problems that I didn't cause by adding gauges and radio - except for one alternator went bad in 1980 when driving back from Disneyland with my sister (though it was a mechanical failure that I fixed on the side of the road). I've heard that it wasn't Lucas, but the quality of the parts that the companies could afford. Lucas had better stuff, and would supply it per order. So maybe Rootes paid more than BMC did for its cars (at least in my experience). But, I still enjoy these jokes. On Oct 17, 2014, at 6:27 PM, Clyde McLaughlin wrote: > From: rfolia@comcast.net [mailto:rfolia@comcast.net] > Sent: Friday, October 17, 2014 3:49 PM > Subject: Fwd: ELECTRICAL THEORY BY JOSEPH LUCAS] > > > > > > > > _____ > > From: "Pinnegar, Mike" > To: "Pinnegar, Mike" > Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 2:06:36 PM > Subject: ELECTRICAL THEORY BY JOSEPH LUCAS] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > It is a few years since I have seen this, but the logic is > inescapable.---particularly if you have owned an English car. > > > > ELECTRICAL THEORY BY JOSEPH LUCAS > > > > Positive ground depends on proper circuit functioning, which is the > transmission of negative ions by retention of the visible spectral > manifestation known as bsmokeb. > Smoke is the thing that makes electrical circuits work. We know this to be > true because every time one lets the smoke out of an electrical circuit, it > stops working. This can be verified repeatedly through empirical testing. > > For example, if one places a copper bar across the terminals of a battery, > prodigious quantities of smoke are liberated and the battery shortly ceases to > function. In addition, if one observes smoke escaping from an electrical > component such as a Lucas voltage regulator, it will also be observed that the > component no longer functions. The logic is elementary and inescapable! > > The function of the wiring harness is to conduct the smoke from one device to > another. When the wiring springs a leak and lets all the smoke out of the > system, nothing works afterward. > > Starter motors were considered unsuitable for British motorcycles for some > time largely because they consumed large quantities of smoke, requiring very > unsightly large wires. > It has been reported that Lucas electrical components are possibly more prone > to electrical leakage than their Bosch, Japanese or American counterparts. > Experts point out that this is because Lucas is British, and all things > British leak. British engines leak oil, British shock absorbers, hydraulic > forks and disk brake systems leak fluid, British tires leak air and British > Intelligence leaks national defense secrets. > > Therefore, it follows that British electrical systems must leak smoke. Once > again, the logic is clear and inescapable. > > In conclusion, the basic concept of transmission of electrical energy in the > form of smoke provides a logical explanation of the mysteries of electrical > components especially British units manufactured by Joseph Lucas, Ltd. > > And remember: bA gentleman does not motor about after dark.b > > Joseph Lucas bThe Prince of Darknessb > 1842-1903 > > A few Lucas quips: > > The Lucas motto: bGet home before dark.b > > Lucas is the patent holder for the short circuit. > > Lucas - Inventor of the first intermittent wiper. > > Lucas - Inventor of the self-dimming headlamp. > > The three-position Lucas switch--DIM, FLICKER and OFF. The other three switch > settings--SMOKE, SMOLDER and IGNITE. > > The Original Anti-Theft Device - Lucas Electrics. > > If Lucas made guns, wars would not start > > Back in the b70s, Lucas decided to diversify its product line and began > manufacturing vacuum cleaners. It was the only product they offered which did > not suck. > > Q: Why do the British drink warm beer? > > A: Because Lucas makes their refrigerators. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 12:50:15 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0966A2584704 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:50:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm9.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [216.39.62.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3F32580969 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 12:42:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [216.39.60.165] by nm17.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2014 18:46:02 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.249] by tm1.access.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2014 18:46:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1020.access.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Oct 2014 18:46:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 83994 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Oct 2014 18:46:02 -0000 s=s1024; t=1413657962; bh=+kL6oEMh8UQcL0qI9lqpj2utIaiezPgGup0HzUPmWA8=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pbfJ4/2G3fr4XeAfybXG54lyeMMGuGkf32x5JzrjzIeLA3ap+iy9g5phttrW4CxntJxdILYjqcjWjCqQD39ozl/2/mB9toOMGsNgs+ymUMG2VIS06xDhFMWCbBUK60OKKRBxviPASDlSW+RD3mqDsqhQMmDGhuOyDh96ha+es1o= rlQ0ocGHAU.KchYvfKZKTNdeY9a.bJRa0bnQzi_Yc88.at700OgqFJmo3jKR w2Nw.pb3ftseSyiuRp2fkb2o4.saYIPiL7bdHcKMMIbNYCs65VLZ80aGQLPm FJw3rBwSdUdgexICR7QzLEtaLE54z64Z5UMd2VUA4eQEVuhpmiVXNpS2NOYR ygVbJ226jPkHQxwN4zY0osl1GDg7QkIbuZ1qZS2_gdhERHH5FoG7Kic4fUwT n18ySFDQjEYMFauDH2sS2GfteFOua4ReAdIT.p2nLMQTXg2eXwZbSg.YQCSP _ofichgOnYfrLqT6Sde6Fx2VheS86EdXaj4JPfhVBHMOKtRd6E0qQtj1ozpj dzGtb5WtdUdfeUEOhRpv3mHml9xbrDzURZzgphAoaw6aryxdaAniVQK.W4O7 y.qtunWNe3QBRdFUZvHR313i5j3XD5eulUMBYlyxG7cgTLcjOuOlF4Q9HlKB lI1kSlDuKlt3K2gfHZHN58IvE0yu6WfMyb0r4sueijpZAon3nNrI0VlCqHs6 waqjWwwv95JC_EEDl Received: from [99.136.112.8] by web185002.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 11:46:02 PDT SSdtIHRoaW5raW5nIHRoZXkgYXJlIHRoZXJlIGZvciB0aGUgYmVuZWZpdCBvZiB2aXNpdG9ycyBmcm9tIENvbG9yYWRvIGFuZCB0aGUgU3RhdGUgb2YgV2FzaGluZ3Rvbi4gIEEgbG90IG9mIHRob3NlIGZvbGtzIGFyZSBmbHlpbmcgcHJldHR5IGhpZ2ggdGhlc2UgZGF5cy4gIEp1c3QgbXkgZ3Vlc3MuCgpCaWxsATABAQEB Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 11:46:02 -0700 From: Bill Waite To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] About those high wire warning signs... Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I'm thinking they are there for the benefit of visitors from Colorado and the State of Washington. A lot of those folks are flying pretty high these days. Just my guess. Bill _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 13:20:19 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B775825845C6 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 13:20:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net (resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net [69.252.207.33]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB922580870 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 13:19:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.97]) by resqmta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 4jNi1p00326dK1R01jNo6j; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 19:22:48 +0000 Received: from resmail-ch2-601v.sys.comcast.net ([162.150.50.125]) by resomta-ch2-01v.sys.comcast.net with comcast id 4jNm1p0062i4P9N01jNmsK; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 19:22:47 +0000 Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 19:22:45 +0000 (UTC) From: genepadgett@comcast.net To: johnp@ciseast.com References: <014f01cfeaf3$b64ce940$22e6bbc0$@com> (Win)/8.0.3_GA_5664) Thread-Topic: Calif plates Thread-Index: Ac/q87INP/0zJVaPQjiEOMbCN51mMLR0zrkc s=q20140121; t=1413660168; bh=4MjFKKjpUwTcTVeXEAaQVgWeADozDdTWmx3PkSBMIYA=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=Ngc6ceSslOE3iwfzs9zVI0CCCGd9ABJIumJPszd+wdRzCCefZR++4NzIavAHg+eda UdFsCONevAQckQlute/FboXzTZ1b2rbcifjwe9WMaAfPPo4Cuh6CpB4q3WLepu/ulK h4NzfglBS0eKw2uDYMNGns7aPCnk/1+yCAl9HZArQylugx2YjhxpA4mrNFPrJfosZV O1Yv6CIW2QXEwSDuP3R8Rj5d5YQNTRvGFcS05aJwoTmMr0ZAX1GTSTql2wMFViaNDB wXDJ9Ka+Ib21oA5s69LIkBS8Hx38U3oOV23nfS4EjFY5O3H0VQZBsKr/t96eP/E0oS UWTqudJMR9LEg== Cc: john procida , tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Calif plates Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net FWIW, another (extreme?) example is the plate I got through the dealer on my brand new Tiger in 1967. The plate number was HBN 810. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: johnp@ciseast.com To: tigers@autox.team.net Cc: "john procida" Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 11:51:06 AM Subject: [Tigers] Calif plates My Tiger was bought on Dec. 28, 1965 (as a 1966 model based on foreign model years scheme devised by the state) from the dealer in Vallejo, California with plate "RXF 371". This number goes against some of the discussion on this forum such as plate series going only up to about "RDA". We might be getting a little off balance in this discussion because we forget how slowly things moved back in the day. If a location received a allotment of plates to assigned to vehicle under their jurisdiction then those plates would be distributed as slowly or quickly as the local needs dictated. I would imagine that some "pohick" office might still have some of their original allotment of plates until the new series came out. That would allow a newer car to have much "older" plates. I don't remember California DMV policies back then, but I know that in some states the plates belonged to the owner and the plates would just be transferred from your old car to your brand new car at the time of purchase. Good discussion, though.. Very entertaining and valuable if kept in balance. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/genepadgett@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 18:07:00 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 128C62584AE6 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 18:07:00 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com (cdptpa-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.166.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8612258009C for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 18:06:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.148.23.141] ([98.148.23.141:50137] helo=BillPC) by cdptpa-oedge02 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 7E/2C-28217-05103445; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 00:09:52 +0000 From: "Bill Rogers" To: "Tigers" Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:10:00 -0700 Subject: [Tigers] Black Plates Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net 1965 Mk1 bought in 1966 in Santa Ana SVHXXX BTW all black plates have 63 stamped on them except the last year(s) which are blank. I had a "69 Fiat 124 with ZSE and no stamped 63 Bill _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Oct 18 18:18:55 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA582584B11 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 18:18:55 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from BAY004-OMC3S4.hotmail.com (bay004-omc3s4.hotmail.com [65.54.190.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6E6258009C for ; Sat, 18 Oct 2014 18:11:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY176-W3 ([65.54.190.187]) by BAY004-OMC3S4.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.22751); Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:14:55 -0700 From: steven parks To: Tigers Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:14:55 -0700 References: FILETIME=[B6181470:01CFEB31] Subject: Re: [Tigers] Black Plates Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net 1966 MK1a no idea when sold sgc xxx > From: milward@roadrunner.com > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 17:10:00 -0700 > Subject: [Tigers] Black Plates > > 1965 Mk1 bought in 1966 in Santa Ana SVHXXX > > BTW all black plates have 63 stamped on them except the last year(s) which are > blank. I had a "69 Fiat 124 with ZSE and no stamped 63 > > Bill > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rsphcp@hotmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 19:10:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C82032585BD7 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 19:10:31 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (fed1rmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C61D2580313 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 19:02:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo306 ([68.230.241.174]) by fed1rmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141020010525.IWHL8128.fed1rmfepo202.cox.net@fed1rmimpo306> for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:05:25 -0400 Received: from laptop ([68.229.224.237]) by fed1rmimpo306 with cox id 5D5Q1p00S57wa9801D5RZZ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:05:25 -0400 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=wYf_TsClTt5nhA89ARkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=NR1Hk2fkq80A:10 a=HDEvdNB3QbUA:10 a=rjE0Uz3qJ-cA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=Nl8fwqUYqQveF2D7Lh4A:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=awtiger@cox.net From: "Andy Walker" To: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:05:22 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac/sAbEQBfjonNXpQkqSTnQD+uWW/g== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Front crossmember reinforcement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hey, guys: Can someone out there provide me with the plans/instructions on how to reinforce your front crossmember? I've got my front suspension all apart and would like to perform this reinforcement procedure. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Andy Walker Edmond, OK B382001600LRXFE TAC #740 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Oct 19 20:55:36 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C152580BDD for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:55:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2on0128.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.100.128]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAAE42580BDD for ; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 20:51:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BY2PR04CA059.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.141.249.177) by BN1PR04MB456.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.141.59.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1049.19; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 02:54:46 +0000 Received: from BL2FFO11FD011.protection.gbl (2a01:111:f400:7c09::189) by BY2PR04CA059.outlook.office365.com (2a01:111:e400:2c5e::49) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1054.13 via Frontend Transport; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 02:54:45 +0000 Received: from garmin.com (204.77.163.247) by BL2FFO11FD011.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.173.161.17) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1049.20 via Frontend Transport; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 02:54:44 +0000 Received: from OLAWPA-EXHT04.ad.garmin.com (10.5.4.104) by edgetransport.garmin.com (192.168.18.224) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.210.2; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:55:08 -0500 Received: from OLAWPA-EXMB06.ad.garmin.com ([169.254.5.33]) by OLAWPA-EXHT04.ad.garmin.com ([10.5.4.104]) with mapi id 14.03.0181.006; Sun, 19 Oct 2014 21:54:42 -0500 From: "Smit, Theo" To: "johnp@ciseast.com" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Calif plates Thread-Index: Ac/q87INP/0zJVaPQjiEOMbCN51mMABFRy6A Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 02:54:41 +0000 References: <014f01cfeaf3$b64ce940$22e6bbc0$@com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.1.140326 x-originating-ip: [10.5.143.129] Content-ID: <0044B655B0377B4CB99A902858CF1798@garmin.com> SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(438002)(24454002)(51704005)(189002)(36304003)(377424004)(199003)(377454003)(21056001)(64706001)(80022003)(95666004)(23676002)(2501002)(99396003)(21086002)(85306004)(120916001)(106466001)(46102003)(77096002)(40036004)(76176999)(84676001)(6806004)(68736004)(44976005)(19580405001)(69596002)(4396001)(83506001)(50986999)(92726001)(36756003)(47776003)(54356999)(85852003)(86362001)(92566001)(20776003)(81156004)(107046002)(19580395003)(16796002)(31966008)(87936001)(2656002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BN1PR04MB456; H:garmin.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoDomainNonexistent; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; Received-SPF: Pass (protection.outlook.com: domain of garmin.com designates 204.77.163.247 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=204.77.163.247; helo=garmin.com; Authentication-Results: spf=pass (sender IP is 204.77.163.247) smtp.mailfrom=Theo.Smit@garmin.com; Cc: "john.procida@gmail.com" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Calif plates Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net In Alberta itbs still that way... I have something like five or six plates and if I can, I transfer them from one vehicle to the next (or bring an idle one out of retirement). Makes it easier to remember plate numbers. Theo On 2014-10-18, 10:51 AM, "johnp@ciseast.com" wrote: > > I don't remember California DMV policies >back then, but I know that in some states the plates belonged to the owner >and the plates would just be transferred from your old car to your brand >new >car at the time of purchase. > ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete the message. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this communication (including attachments) by someone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Thank you. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 20 11:46:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9A4258514D for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:46:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f169.google.com (mail-qc0-f169.google.com [209.85.216.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D042584E69 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 11:46:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-qc0-f169.google.com with SMTP id o8so4087922qcw.0 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 10:50:04 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=IdHCXq0JG0hW6gfs7gVCVzrxatwJfAIM0HcHzFdEpKw=; b=VtqcH1AoIScZb8KGp/OVCxYXBR8dL6npUkT16u9jvuaNd2v5lU4V6DQeBKQELOEUb7 IAlCx7+bbhO80rH9nQcGo5hWQ8qbuyK2mE58XamjZ+8E0jFVxlTbEqFDgt9Up5Afrkdt NWoIkcqEpnVMhKCeduEwMsXNhyEQMcsfaxnKmtCRSLTU1OMxLq4BfMGJGuPl1HUsTjso Wab4HNla4/bFD76k9zjSPfuTOYqDTLvmkPaXIyFQuMRA0kJHxrP0LdccXlKimCCxvtEU PE8I37txhUXL7F4Y3fmv5gDoLWAAmnlqb5rM2MhnuwaF0BWi+DrglK1kPJc0vqPvb695 b6cg== n15mr28763097qay.13.1413827404275; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 10:50:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.96.112.70 with HTTP; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 10:50:04 -0700 (PDT) References: <000001cfec01$ed1ce510$c756af30$@cox.net> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 13:50:04 -0400 From: Tom Parker To: randy willett Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Front crossmember reinforcement Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Andy, I can attest to Randy's work. Fair warning, he ain't cheap, but I think he's worth it. Whatever you do, pay attention to the jig. Locating the mounting points on the crossmember is critical, as the location of the towers. Tom '67 Mark 2 On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:30 AM, randy willett wrote: > > Hi: > The old Guru has his own way of cutting them apart and curing the > fragile sag & movement issues. A series of internal stiff-back bracings > and external double plates where it matters. Not for the novice 1st > attempt. We are doing a pile at the moment if you want to ship it in for > rehab or exchange. > Enjoying keeping em' runnin', randy > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *Andy Walker* > Date: Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 9:05 PM > Subject: [Tigers] Front crossmember reinforcement > To: tigers@autox.team.net > > > Hey, guys: > > > > Can someone out there provide me with the plans/instructions on how to > reinforce your front crossmember? I've got my front suspension all apart > and would like to perform this reinforcement procedure. Any help would be > greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Andy Walker > > Edmond, OK > > B382001600LRXFE > TAC #740 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 22 09:31:35 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5BA2584720 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 09:31:35 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1on0091.outbound.protection.outlook.com [157.56.110.91]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49C3258093F for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 09:03:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CO1PR07MB939.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.73.145) by CO1PR07MB939.namprd07.prod.outlook.com (10.141.73.145) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1049.19; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 15:06:29 +0000 Received: from CO1PR07MB939.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.73.145]) by CO1PR07MB939.namprd07.prod.outlook.com ([10.141.73.145]) with mapi id 15.00.1049.012; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 15:06:29 +0000 From: "Taylor, Matthew" To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Latest STOA newsletter on ebay Thread-Index: Ac/uCZi8CRYVvGOATou7HIUMyZumpQ== Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 15:06:29 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [159.153.4.51] x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:CO1PR07MB939; x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-forefront-prvs: 037291602B x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10009020)(6009001)(4983001)(199003)(189002)(4396001)(20776003)(107046002)(99396003)(107886001)(120916001)(40100003)(229853001)(2351001)(64706001)(21056001)(15202345003)(558084003)(76576001)(101416001)(85306004)(50986999)(31966008)(122556002)(95666004)(99286002)(87936001)(86362001)(92566001)(54356999)(15975445006)(85852003)(19580395003)(2656002)(76482002)(80022003)(46102003)(108616004)(110136001)(2501002)(105586002)(106356001)(66066001)(97736003)(93376004)(74316001)(33646002)(24736002)(15302535012); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101; SCL:1; SRVR:CO1PR07MB939; H:CO1PR07MB939.namprd07.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1; LANG:en; Subject: [Tigers] Latest STOA newsletter on ebay Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net http://www.ebay.com/itm/161449352859?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName= STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Only a few hours left! Matthew _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 22 20:32:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D804258087D for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 20:32:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (fed1rmfepo102.cox.net [68.230.241.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CFFA2580682 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 20:10:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo110 ([68.230.241.159]) by fed1rmfepo102.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141023021410.VLBB5235.fed1rmfepo102.cox.net@fed1rmimpo110> for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 22:14:10 -0400 Received: from laptop ([68.229.224.237]) by fed1rmimpo110 with cox id 6SE81p00P57wa9801SE9ya; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 22:14:09 -0400 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=FioWM2U2ybgF32pbc2UA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=A2CfsZaP4CgA:10 a=BpUYm3THBccA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=vKoSCGoQ4UXW9Pwf5EYA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=awtiger@cox.net From: "Andy Walker" To: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:14:08 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac/uZpqTmjCCkEm/Qpq/Vcx0Yo7qmw== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] A-arm question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hey, guys: Are the upper A-arms on a Tiger identical? In other words, are they interchangeable from one side to the other? Thanks, Andy Walker Edmond, OK _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 22 21:18:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B78CE2580B0E for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:18:11 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f178.google.com (mail-ob0-f178.google.com [209.85.214.178]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC6325806FA for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 20:49:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f178.google.com with SMTP id wn1so110864obc.9 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 19:52:44 -0700 (PDT) h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type :thread-index:content-language; bh=gpBhgdwAzD4BJfKrwowcbKWAokznmwvGvWVlHCOewvU=; b=v+reYLKIIYn2cgsd1fYWckL/0wrZFvXAgJdBBCnbqQr2xrk6ZEC3OADbdI/o5Z2N7S Z9F9Nt9EP7T8dlxFbjASzQIw7fR4EZeNgB5y50W8ioOQLEpnZdGsY3/PeKc+UKCzO1zV S+FGctRfmH38z1+sCNbLmszrlHUtGgov2SGG+414ulewbFaAHvTJ5elaTvJlHBpzftPH bfUp3vN8fumWSR8CxMnRiTEYwRc8b+1G9VpqhB/dN9mWa1wVxYMp81HMhyW8qsosZf1V 3QWzPP3DLyUD0GEX7bxTeaOtVTzUB09GaiA5N4ZzUEDq7qr0ay+eyRqh/CIdN2tkl3EX WFNQ== f10mr1741384obx.4.1414032764207; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 19:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from OFFICEPC (75-32-205-182.lightspeed.ftwotx.sbcglobal.net. [75.32.205.182]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gm2sm281178obb.27.2014.10.22.19.52.43 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Oct 2014 19:52:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Joe Brown" To: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:52:42 -0500 Thread-Index: Ac/ubFE6IqPF/p5RRY2wPhnhb9ULGg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [Tigers] Overhaulin" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Just saw an ad for the new season of Overhaulin' and it looks like they are doing a Tiger this year. Thanks, Joe Brown Arlington, TX B382000217 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 22 21:49:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7F4A2584598 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:49:09 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f172.google.com (mail-ig0-f172.google.com [209.85.213.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A5B25806FA for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:31:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f172.google.com with SMTP id r2so2163733igi.5 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 20:34:29 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=3joWFhfs7K4dmQtwK9rYG0fddTQ+oaGDKO8MInJKyJ4=; b=qJb72rzcKzTmyDHhK4K/QiSMPzBFbXTgemGXNdOFujzpfcKxr4umK2VulTktsirwA8 Z2QY6x/GrbzaWZ6JYD+Q31rlZQVTWuhEtYbmGiOJHWfdw2Du3NaynorK8qYpmKWSN8YJ Y8408QjuvdR7+t/OcL9MEAg/DOPn/AaEcV4UygzdwL7pHs+5CSvgbvoBo0WGJH6sU0HC E2ykuunJOhCR+B63jTjQIffHwWs3h38ACNIhI9on61Vog76Z8OdgeXXpD7dNARXugIqv 5E+25XocCbtoi5olx9uzPxlnqQfblx0J2ROz26kSxy12Iln1jtkH8pF8t33Hda2q0HOC 4cGw== gd8mr9615437igd.21.1414035269150; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 20:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.43.47.133 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 20:34:29 -0700 (PDT) References: <000c01cfee6c$6aff2b20$40fd8160$@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:34:29 +0800 From: michael king To: Joe Brown Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] Overhaulin" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Yes they are.... here is the preview for it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UI3RyK3Oj2s&feature=youtu.be On 23 October 2014 10:52, Joe Brown wrote: > Just saw an ad for the new season of Overhaulin' and it looks like they are > doing a Tiger this year. > > > > Thanks, > > Joe Brown > > Arlington, TX > > B382000217 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 22 22:18:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFCB72584642 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 22:18:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ig0-f169.google.com (mail-ig0-f169.google.com [209.85.213.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1A242584444 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:53:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ig0-f169.google.com with SMTP id uq10so2149178igb.2 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 20:57:15 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=2ygTzhzDW5Cc8szU6ySxPaS/WC0hrhIhoLO1kvDC8rE=; b=KU1wXkZRzAXNCHqYL7oY9ICvomu6f6QSw0jTNXE9kpRJjB3EdU9vovepbT7/A9G0Z3 0XN7/DwRjmQ38oSOJYsynFc0nCCG/5a/uotqgSu7BhYt3lvpSF2YIM6CScLdynAQbiJt ghQxQdQIToEi4/UdNEURHlvMBIgW1MJEl6AJI9zI3Z04ibJZ5U7XwV+IHPX94YzjJOmZ p8jmqgSYFxf7/43Oy2u/wKopHLMVBi+s1FWXNitaY7jAgMSU1s3Ozz7aApelj8YuDl/9 aaNN147mP/kjJioafySVwpQ/deuYUpE4WKjwTMLyxGxu1axEhtina9WIjrc6q66F/cXO nAOg== s2mr24606923igg.21.1414036635528; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 20:57:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.36.85 with HTTP; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 20:57:15 -0700 (PDT) References: <000c01cfee6c$6aff2b20$40fd8160$@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 23:57:15 -0400 From: Owain Lloyd To: michael king Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] Overhaulin" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Oh joy. Almost worth buying a television for... Almost. On Wednesday, October 22, 2014, michael king wrote: > Yes they are.... here is the preview for it: > > Overhaulin' Sunbeam Episode Airs Nov 4, 2014 > > > > > On 23 October 2014 10:52, Joe Brown > > wrote: > > > Just saw an ad for the new season of Overhaulin' and it looks like they > are > > doing a Tiger this year. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Joe Brown > > > > Arlington, TX > > > > B382000217 > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards > > Michael King > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Oct 22 22:48:33 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F60F2584747 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 22:48:33 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f173.google.com (mail-ob0-f173.google.com [209.85.214.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43F42584486 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 22:20:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f173.google.com with SMTP id wp4so175964obc.18 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:24:16 -0700 (PDT) s=20120113; h=message-id:content-transfer-encoding:reply-to:references :in-reply-to:sensitivity:importance:subject:to:cc:from:date :content-type:mime-version; bh=eoNaI19XNKhsGI6iDWl4hpNkmz0zo6ZfzIHxib7LL4Q=; b=ABLNqutBHqtUxElWj97eiEh2mNuJ6BW9klee8rb6oU2gH2DzU+7ZPRenO6Rxi2JTd3 5dmgmEDeCEarDC7/aqUcDGe+3iXnpQRbhkXXjrHgsDJBGSOVIKq6+nw4mTRmy2APcP7d Vgd5QuZtMLnpxIM2BxR7JGUvdEJGntRNzo/FRuwSe95lQNl3CwQfeNv49Yk/w0OyxbQ0 KJdufUrrymFFT2wtvqDoAIdg7v8FRArdtEJNTCU41QVxV0JiAcchGbbXunmks8XZQZQ+ bE2HGoXrQ10cQVPU9f0hZ9pZDj5VeCFomqnsrJg22Sipc4qOKW9dwrNCSGKYfSBbsKaF yOPg== 194mr1982002oif.10.1414038256762; Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.29.196.188 (bda-74-82-80-128.bis6.us.blackberry.com. [74.82.80.128]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ry5sm352942obb.28.2014.10.22.21.24.15 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Oct 2014 21:24:16 -0700 (PDT) References: <000c01cfee6c$6aff2b20$40fd8160$@gmail.com> Sensitivity: Normal To: owain.lloyd@gmail.com,"michael king" From: jay.laifman@gmail.com Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 04:24:12 +0000 Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] Overhaulin" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I watched what terrible things they did to a Porsche 356 - including cutting out the rear window and welding in a VW oval window. Talk about disaster mismatch. So all I can say is even for grown men, this Tiger episode may require a box of klennex and your wife's shoulder! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: Owain Lloyd To: michael king Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Subject: Re: [Tigers] Overhaulin" Oh joy. Almost worth buying a television for... Almost. On Wednesday, October 22, 2014, michael king wrote: > Yes they are.... here is the preview for it: > > Overhaulin' Sunbeam Episode Airs Nov 4, 2014 > > > > > On 23 October 2014 10:52, Joe Brown > > wrote: > > > Just saw an ad for the new season of Overhaulin' and it looks like they > are > > doing a Tiger this year. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Joe Brown > > > > Arlington, TX > > > > B382000217 > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > -- > Regards > > Michael King > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 05:20:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1780525809D6 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 05:20:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f42.google.com (mail-oi0-f42.google.com [209.85.218.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCDD2580682 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 05:03:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f42.google.com with SMTP id a141so536410oig.1 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 04:07:13 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XqoDLtPUqf3M2ytxkUwIm0+Yj+RtmCBHqYUACBl6VmI=; b=riGu+g+anQwrk4ylBwb1G0OPY0XtuW1uE95Y2II84dey2Jv1n3RC9/pvCKbXop9HC4 hkPd2l4kEjgtDK1hi9MPB9m5dAnri/tyhyED1ri2RKvkAcJdVz4TNEic9q1EP3usprRB oUKLNfQ0tth0wueuJq0h0CKyoas/OwxPIIKpPsAuPPyFZz4sco1RZdbVx62/dXUZUhK/ 6LtjwJ5oH5QgYOTcSzWyVYWDrfLVdy42EfNatlB1Z8SzGfW+e5CdYvypZHSc3wxmSrM/ gUO5tx78WwPJeNIwgI6TGzxYkSeH9/gCZ2PBKhN4zB9W8uxrt9bmwQt19U7RcdigKDpM Cvwg== e141mr776270oib.80.1414062433606; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 04:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.72.13 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 04:07:13 -0700 (PDT) References: <000001cfee67$07a304c0$16e90e40$@cox.net> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 07:07:13 -0400 From: Jeffery Randall To: Andy Walker Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] A-arm question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net yes On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Andy Walker wrote: > Hey, guys: > > > > Are the upper A-arms on a Tiger identical? In other words, are they > interchangeable from one side to the other? > > > > Thanks, > > Andy Walker > > Edmond, OK > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jefferyrandall@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 06:50:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD89325845AA for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 06:50:51 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f46.google.com (mail-pa0-f46.google.com [209.85.220.46]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C32525807BA for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 06:31:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f46.google.com with SMTP id fa1so981043pad.33 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 05:34:46 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=8VFLAkOd+GgAMYiZ8WbQStpGZ+cp47QlLD5qm3LoCdg=; b=NPp7ZzMmIAtIR5kMMXlguD3kh4RSdBfsZv1z0OhV0M3p+njI9N53b22QQGaOAPYwQx JGk250hwNJcydAEI3HdA4HVGL4O8NxGDta6dhLRQTgZFOJdwKsh2l04cg6n86SxjbBfY 1elpy++FmNxLfOmeP9mBL4xxRxUABwXxqapadn9n6Dy8dlppU/AHiVJh9OnMUD2f1cZR CTusAhBmC4JzUju80aJduKu2G07fBkEnR3BlqlpwxwbvZu+W1lyDvSGojGQpJ0X48kTt +eWe1CBMkc2F7a+4uTjuKKN5wrvHz4ut2HffbTP8zqFRTY+z9GCSVCO5jqXsegwwByuW btvw== as3mr4898196pbd.38.1414067685967; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 05:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.135.162 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 05:34:45 -0700 (PDT) References: <000c01cfee6c$6aff2b20$40fd8160$@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 07:34:45 -0500 From: Cullen McCann To: Joe Brown Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Overhaulin" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net That is freakin awesome. My dad mentioned something about it too but he just caught the tail end...and wasn't sure. I love it when the car gets such good exposure!!!! Whether you like custom cars or not, Chip Foose really does know how to build a car... I love watching that show. thanks for sharing! Cullen B382001452 LROFE B9471784 LRXFE On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Joe Brown wrote: > Just saw an ad for the new season of Overhaulin' and it looks like they are > doing a Tiger this year. > > > > Thanks, > > Joe Brown > > Arlington, TX > > B382000217 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmccann1972@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 23 06:51:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3BA25845EE for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 06:51:20 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo203.cox.net (eastrmfepo203.cox.net [68.230.241.218]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5483325807BA for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 06:31:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo210 ([68.230.241.225]) by eastrmfepo203.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141023123450.TOGS2658.eastrmfepo203.cox.net@eastrmimpo210> for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 08:34:50 -0400 Received: from laptop ([68.229.224.237]) by eastrmimpo210 with cox id 6cap1p00957wa9801caqVx; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 08:34:50 -0400 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=sq2dnWbNxWuslldWoScA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=HCVTVaulxus4hYrM9rMA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=JcqhKURzn7Ekwddt:21 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=awtiger@cox.net From: "Andy Walker" To: "'Jeffery Randall'" References: <000001cfee67$07a304c0$16e90e40$@cox.net> <6b7C1p0093soNJx01b7DAG> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 07:34:48 -0500 Thread-Index: AQH5Qp6VptQrxMBj7BJSx2VdHOv1CAI0iW0cm9lR4nA= Content-Language: en-us Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] A-arm question Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks, Jeff!!! Andy From: Jeffery Randall [mailto:jefferyrandall@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 6:07 AM To: Andy Walker Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] A-arm question yes On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Andy Walker Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA7B25847C2 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 09:24:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from out01.mta.xmission.com (out01.mta.xmission.com [166.70.13.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54ACD2580697 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 09:00:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mx01.mta.xmission.com ([166.70.13.211]) by out01.mta.xmission.com with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1XhJvx-0004zT-Sa; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 09:04:14 -0600 Received: from mta1.zcs.xmission.com ([166.70.13.65]) by mx01.mta.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1XhJvx-0007X4-J2; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 09:04:13 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mta1.zcs.xmission.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F9D1684ED; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 09:04:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mta1.zcs.xmission.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mta1.zcs.xmission.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2kAICnaGxGyV; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 09:04:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from LynnWallPC (c-50-149-96-224.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [50.149.96.224]) (Authenticated sender: cars@wt-inc.com) by mta1.zcs.xmission.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id AF64D169793; Thu, 23 Oct 2014 09:04:11 -0600 (MDT) From: "Lynn" To: "'Cullen McCann'" , "'Joe Brown'" References: <000c01cfee6c$6aff2b20$40fd8160$@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 09:03:50 -0600 Thread-Index: AQIOpNSJIma5zJUKjhjnPXDdzEe1gAIsmLokm672C7A= Content-Language: en-us to false Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Overhaulin" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Just as an FYI on this episode. Dan Walters was the "Team Expert" on the build and lots of parts were supplied by Dale A. Dale was able to watch the reveal and said the car was very nice with some very subtle changes. I am looking forward to seeing the episode. Lynn -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Cullen McCann Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 6:35 AM To: Joe Brown Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Overhaulin" That is freakin awesome. My dad mentioned something about it too but he just caught the tail end...and wasn't sure. I love it when the car gets such good exposure!!!! Whether you like custom cars or not, Chip Foose really does know how to build a car... I love watching that show. thanks for sharing! Cullen B382001452 LROFE B9471784 LRXFE On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Joe Brown wrote: > Just saw an ad for the new season of Overhaulin' and it looks like > they are doing a Tiger this year. > > > > Thanks, > > Joe Brown > > Arlington, TX > > B382000217 > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmccann1972@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cars@wt-inc.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 24 08:10:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2AF82584A14 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 08:10:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f171.google.com (mail-vc0-f171.google.com [209.85.220.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B72A2580809 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 07:19:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-vc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id hy10so230554vcb.30 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 06:22:25 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=rvh7kdb8BEl9AtboWHQT6AAPuoVhqvmjrPjRJhl3mZQ=; b=U76fKXS6NgTq+gP18Smb6k2CPti4lYWlqQqiqn5J3bdNvbzzZU/VQ9m4WS2m8IiJdf OtAmc38vBVOaSGNWo13Y7rOGVOYMWRW/CnpxmAzOZM9SnPdCkaObTchP54SWEbTOSZct I2/ANnJ0fRd/0LjfdlEg6WTo6KDGlCyyxkWN1vFFZGdfWQGYhSqkynSnE+RTJW7V7sgj 7wUQ4rWdSztQh5PBcxUPJuFtFf0UA9OoYbGYle+xK4ViVAS7MX3ckc7g1OGuuB+cumBg Ci7KbChVtUAqh3GK1CovrPtoSRTIb5UB35bjzVvzAcwiZX7uZFNa7UaC01qnIQzC+EC0 PSLw== v18mr2966456vcv.24.1414156945558; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 06:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.10.3 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 06:22:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:22:25 -0400 From: "Robert D. Hogan" To: LIST TIGER Subject: [Tigers] Hood Release Mechanism Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net There is a new listing for a hood release mechanism on E-bay that states it has a new threaded on handle. Anyone know where the handle for this is available from? _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 24 09:41:03 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037922584CF0 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 09:41:03 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm39-vm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm39-vm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.217.92]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8FE1258495E for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 08:45:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm39.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2014 14:48:43 -0000 Received: from [216.39.60.180] by nm39.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2014 14:45:42 -0000 Received: from [98.139.214.32] by tm16.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2014 14:45:42 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.236] by tm15.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2014 14:45:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1045.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Oct 2014 14:45:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 32352 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Oct 2014 14:45:41 -0000 s=s1024; t=1414161941; bh=oHdwmHRWAagc43BE3UlNK1qCyWgZD2yL8vMlgDtAE1E=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Gz6PuARHikL8Ushk1PFmXAUKKFa6TPiPM6jgIzADkajybP7KwD12L2ZUSAyJQAQxo06k00ga0rVdA7H8HTxrjdofBcIRuQpeQz1FPwDOYrtXRMwWWZaGVkS18EzdpDVm2Rr9oOqLxMC1OcnTPYjcQv8h0aXfTkzBHkLtlGCz6XQ= T5zqeGMtug5ZgWuIzy0jhwPzlwipRAeYfPZJo86viJ2bU9PsGLOTCe0NPxqR YnKMQth.rLrRnC9k.WzpnlViPBEGQQ3el8PmlYOfnb5nbfBJ3binUs_wm5s5 QpBm7SvhtY2_3G_S8IvzySX3Sib1cowJRn8DUk8_cHrZ0UBL.JmuRcH4u..L AR4YPXUzmqSuTBbN6KJ1MObxhl6K5Zmhlc8Wr9CvLB1SnRtitEGEAL7h6iXh 1SF3oliCp0Fqgt.RotWWqiR0UuwZpD_pfnKhkZy.2QVhaMB6h_zsMQRC8WBk QGNOj.GVjyk1lUNlTZfzWuYWS5zHysU_oeHd6Z_3caw8vQWP1m2XJWG3Z86. 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The rod type was used on Tigers up until VIN B382001825, and the cable type began at B382001826 and went through until the very last Tiger MK II. The consensus at the time was that the rod type (early design) was the longest lasting. If my car is typical, the rod type has an unlabeled handle, and the later cable type is labeled 'Bonnet' on the handle. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 24 10:42:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C3112584F25 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:42:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo202.cox.net (eastrmfepo202.cox.net [68.230.241.217]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CF02584A8A for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:09:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo110 ([68.230.241.223]) by eastrmfepo202.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.15 201-2260-151-145-20131218) with ESMTP id <20141024161247.FNFQ19010.eastrmfepo202.cox.net@eastrmimpo110> for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:12:47 -0400 Received: from laptop ([68.229.224.237]) by eastrmimpo110 with cox id 74Cn1p00157wa98014CnlB; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:12:47 -0400 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=mqWThfvGqpQH9ned3aQA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=Edkp9s3Os2/x5ckoDbrZxQ==:117 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=awtiger@cox.net From: "Andy Walker" To: "'snakebit289'" , References: <73kJ1p01y0NyJgq013kKLN> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 11:12:45 -0500 Thread-index: AQKNYsREtRIXukvGj5bFq92H/7TcwJrEhL0A Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger hood release handle Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks for that bit of info, Rande. I've always wondered if my car should have the cable or not, but I'm glad to see that it should have the rod instead (B382001600). The rod is what's on there now but I always thought that it had probably been changed out at some point. Thanks again, Andy Walker -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of snakebit289 Sent: Friday, October 24, 2014 9:46 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Tiger hood release handle This might sound unrelated, but there was a discussion at least two years ago about the merits of the early and late design (early was the steel rod type and late was the cable. The rod type was used on Tigers up until VIN B382001825, and the cable type began at B382001826 and went through until the very last Tiger MK II. The consensus at the time was that the rod type (early design) was the longest lasting. If my car is typical, the rod type has an unlabeled handle, and the later cable type is labeled 'Bonnet' on the handle. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/awtiger@cox.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 24 11:40:37 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EABB2585016 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 11:40:37 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yh0-f45.google.com (mail-yh0-f45.google.com [209.85.213.45]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D762584D14 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:57:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-yh0-f45.google.com with SMTP id f73so1099325yha.18 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:00:19 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=RNzjyzRtF6gAuuMhwt9xYrNdL6MKUJ8L2QnoeBPItn0=; b=oVWYCTO8MW9JGPjqD0L8Dad2fAzQTiueMxhY7XC+GZ8u2w286JIKnTY+Ed0tUow3OY JsPhG2mKilhngS7FYHUaUA+GDc1eOsqb+fyY0GEdp+qCWXPv7ZjG/U+ffriWfnU+4lIr GxiRukAUGSUldaS/JXU2hnfvJmBerf/PIBMNTaSGJGouUsr6Xg8sJ8TfkRnHeUSdaRMz K34VPTGdYxuLFP35ofO9vFiLZuWsqkk63C7DFoch86ikYl8m/RcY/h8Nwd5nLF3O/6rv uiohU6IrDdTwRoJt7KtdVw8ExMomucM6YPmgKQyNsvSu3dJhh/SwEtjYS9p6wh/pEovw CXlg== d99mr6026491yhq.191.1414170019257; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.170.225.136 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Oct 2014 10:00:19 -0700 (PDT) References: <002c01cfefa5$594f8660$0bee9320$@cox.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 13:00:19 -0400 From: Stuart Brennan To: Andy Walker Cc: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger hood release handle Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net And for anyone with a cable release, the conversion to a rod is a "bolt on", no drilling or other mods required. I converted my later Tiger (B382002452) to the rod type using a piece from an older Tiger or Alpine, that I found in the parts room at a TE/AE United. Stu _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 09:46:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C43ED2585334 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:46:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f51.google.com (mail-pa0-f51.google.com [209.85.220.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E9F25852AC for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 09:29:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id kq14so3253156pab.38 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:32:26 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=usxy11oFr1f+EDg72ZiPGcWS4HEBfXovAFwyGyucGlU=; b=XXwZzwB8REFS3mZoUy/lTYdnB+I4hVKDj1IC3+GOrEvqZOOTt2ICEURSbknu15Sgoz HADfUdkdMJnDHO8vxmadpilTg/hWARemH2iK+TptCHpVoZZ8/ZOOp7w6Su+huY/kZPQi 7kO+rBKuN5Ci4QiZJtQsPLV7zYd0cqPML295J3cyk7iTVssvvsZ2HsbcLoiYhe32OlCb x3sK1vTBYynVdrBuUBHPIfqhj9a+OkHPKCCahD3fA0l74Ea/DbKHck0J4SnVNV8ZlZHT xncBtkYqtunikyu5SOl722RgAebORrowi9QsH3ZN/QRb+CoLmdyfPEYj0Yrbt/sHaeHs qVxQ== x8mr25020891pdn.4.1414423946059; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.47.100 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 08:32:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 10:32:26 -0500 From: Cullen McCann To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] Tigers United Articles and tech help - AMC T5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tiger friends, a couple of things. I am trying to access Dan Walters AMC T5 installation article on the TU site and it comes up with like web page coding...not functioning. I have sent the editor an email and it bounced back as failed. Anyone have any suggestions? Also, if anyone has a copy of that article that would be just as good. I am fortunate to have come across the AMC T5 and am trying to educate myself on the tech. Thank you, Cullen Yukon, OK B382001452 LROFE B9471784 LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 14:29:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 471F22584C6D for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:29:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pd0-f172.google.com (mail-pd0-f172.google.com [209.85.192.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 311622580808 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 14:01:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f172.google.com with SMTP id r10so6275308pdi.17 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 13:04:45 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=WoUaEW+nFeCxz+jSPigkn0WLgwbZCgX+vLp84hBYcKY=; b=qIZyL8vtJMgjR+XykYuZmF0cUGeaDKebd0rBl2L284tKCXLYm6n9BmJYFxoly9MB87 TD9iMFfTQILaMMMwIPxwLditmMPdQExBg5W4cd2iszfavwjXzUYJ3eogLrbzCRsn9jV6 J6+jSQejqimkVKiPZ4rNgQcBIQhCKGaP/U81cj2XOHQ6zB1i+d9+th5ifqzntUCc1VBT fUDrep6m3zxwWJ+S7KKJImKgXXzpkEaIF+Z8duFU6mJ3dA6z+Eu5cqidUNJPMByZ4hiX glHudo5s17Agxz9G4agjmTEsGOfXEeXaSILSkVAEP3jsLd7sUE+/kUece+Aq/Ti6U0++ rVDw== uh6mr4164025pab.141.1414440284987; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 13:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.47.100 with HTTP; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 13:04:44 -0700 (PDT) References: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:04:44 -0500 From: Cullen McCann To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers United Articles and tech help - AMC T5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net thank you everyone who contacted me off line. I forgot Theo was the TU site guy, I'm getting great help. Thank you! Cullen On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Cullen McCann wrote: > Tiger friends, a couple of things. I am trying to access Dan Walters AMC > T5 installation article on the TU site and it comes up with like web page > coding...not functioning. I have sent the editor an email and it bounced > back as failed. Anyone have any suggestions? Also, if anyone has a copy of > that article that would be just as good. I am fortunate to have come across > the AMC T5 and am trying to educate myself on the tech. > > Thank you, > > Cullen > Yukon, OK > B382001452 LROFE > B9471784 LRXFE _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 19:48:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E69862585631 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 19:48:39 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp-out-01.shaw.ca (smtp-out-01.shaw.ca [64.59.136.137]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1A3258053B for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 19:20:24 -0600 (MDT) cv=BkBxTXsSVzyY7C2joSQK+JNK4mJr1It1Skr7Xe8+Jh8= c=1 sm=1 a=BGi6d-X4uLYA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=OaeE/iO9IIESsEEgxPvV+A==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=SqnoRefigoR9RKMlddcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=tzrdjpHQCfQJPXu6:21 a=fUSYIWPQLaJ_AR4W:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.108]) ([184.64.170.19]) by smtp-out-01.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 27 Oct 2014 19:23:44 -0600 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 19:23:11 -0600 From: Theo Smit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: Cullen McCann , "tigers@autox.team.net" References: Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers United Articles and tech help - AMC T5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Cullen, I need to take a closer look at why TU is not currently rendering pages... anyway, the critical pieces of info from Dan's article that you probably can't really get elsewhere is this: The particular AMC tailhousing needed for the "no cutting" installation has the Tail Housing casting number 13-52-066-901 (on left side of tail housing). Information supplied by Jim Morrison is that this housing (tailshaft) was used on 2 WD 1982-1983 AMC Concord or Spirit. The AMC Trans should have a tag on one of the tail housing bolts with the number 13-52-001 (the B-W part number for the complete trans, the actual number is 13-52-000-001 but the tags didn't use the 000 on it.) The Chevy Chevette used the T-5 and the part number is 13-52-005.This, to my knowledge, is the only other T-5 (2 wheel drive) to put the shifter in the same location as the AMC, but with a shorter tail housing. - The other information in Dan's article is, as far as I know, fairly common knowledge. Probably the most useful T5 core is the Ford Motorsports one with the 2.95 first and 0.63 or 0.80 fifth; do NOT use non-World-Class versions of the gearbox; the common Mustang gearbox with the 3.35 first is not as strong and first runs out pretty quickly but it's commonly available from Mustang guys. i have one in my Tiger, with 3.31 diff gears, and I use second in autocross starts. Let me know if there's anything else I can dig up for you. Cheers, Theo On 10/27/2014 2:04 PM, Cullen McCann wrote: > thank you everyone who contacted me off line. I forgot Theo was the TU site > guy, I'm getting great help. Thank you! > > Cullen > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Cullen McCann > wrote: > >> Tiger friends, a couple of things. I am trying to access Dan Walters AMC >> T5 installation article on the TU site and it comes up with like web page >> coding...not functioning. I have sent the editor an email and it bounced >> back as failed. Anyone have any suggestions? Also, if anyone has a copy of >> that article that would be just as good. I am fortunate to have come across >> the AMC T5 and am trying to educate myself on the tech. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Cullen >> Yukon, OK >> B382001452 LROFE >> B9471784 LRXFE > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tsmit@shaw.ca _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 20:18:10 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138CE25856FC for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 20:18:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp-out-01.shaw.ca (smtp-out-01.shaw.ca [64.59.136.137]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAF29258562D for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 19:57:52 -0600 (MDT) cv=BkBxTXsSVzyY7C2joSQK+JNK4mJr1It1Skr7Xe8+Jh8= c=1 sm=1 a=BGi6d-X4uLYA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=OaeE/iO9IIESsEEgxPvV+A==:17 a=On7kxBEmSWC_a-0F74IA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.108]) ([184.64.170.19]) by smtp-out-01.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 27 Oct 2014 20:01:13 -0600 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 20:00:40 -0600 From: Theo Smit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: tigers@autox.team.net References: Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers United Articles and tech help - AMC T5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net ... I fixed that particular article. Looks like a newer version of the webserver program does not like blank lines at the start of .asp files, and some of the TU articles have that, and some don't... Any Perl or Python gurus that can write a script to descend a (Unix) directory tree, find .asp files, and strip blank lines from the head of said files? Theo On 10/27/2014 2:04 PM, Cullen McCann wrote: > thank you everyone who contacted me off line. I forgot Theo was the TU site > guy, I'm getting great help. Thank you! > > Cullen _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Oct 27 21:48:45 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BA16258593B for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:48:45 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from smtp-out-03.shaw.ca (smtp-out-03.shaw.ca [64.59.136.139]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A95E25857BA for ; Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:19:38 -0600 (MDT) cv=NGyScNxeuSl9kF2CawaUazurpsiUNiZ1TJmy53crUtI= c=1 sm=1 a=BGi6d-X4uLYA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=OaeE/iO9IIESsEEgxPvV+A==:17 a=DYSOaZbwGo-YJS9vyCAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.108]) ([184.64.170.19]) by smtp-out-03.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 27 Oct 2014 21:22:59 -0600 Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 21:22:26 -0600 From: Theo Smit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: tigers@autox.team.net References: <544EF8C8.5070007@shaw.ca> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers United Articles and tech help - AMC T5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I went through and fixed the tech-tips articles (good review... there's a lot of buried information there!) but if anyone notices other pages that don't come up like you might expect, let me know. Thanks, Theo On 10/27/2014 8:00 PM, Theo Smit wrote: > ... I fixed that particular article. Looks like a newer version of the > webserver program does not like blank lines at the start of .asp > files, and some of the TU articles have that, and some don't... > > Any Perl or Python gurus that can write a script to descend a (Unix) > directory tree, find .asp files, and strip blank lines from the head > of said files? > > Theo _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 09:49:01 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0522584DA6 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:49:01 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f53.google.com (mail-pa0-f53.google.com [209.85.220.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B772584769 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:22:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id kx10so937147pab.40 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 08:25:26 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=KZT+lOfolMKPQyxhMwSyGFD9Jc5pAhBCC+h3nm31ajA=; b=d6Ve9DRYtmx8KZBocGzgSjEW2f6HoS5NSn5LGEzzZlwscAVitoMswjow6TjPwEGY2s HfFKOAbc1Kqs75sH4TEvcMDwOFTnSFz5wlBR0Pk1CyFPVEApg9ZbjQ8Go0n/Jqyj+g1g RJCiutv12NAuLSZfBMJRwaUF0TM6yORu1RwuRiHzneBDC3X1wwsPmZ9iZjQTP1oBMNUq b1WTZHxrVkVktpohjDnp17jErg0mEK6DmGf/7mCoXQUbfcovzNPkP+Bg/Djl4fBB/bbo cIktAMNPNaO6lblGZhhJZEZrJiM5HGfV3vTCiDOaWnzIRmlrhXDkKm+eC6alOh9aJKxT r+Hw== uh6mr3396858pab.141.1414509926316; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 08:25:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.70.47.100 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 08:25:26 -0700 (PDT) References: <544EF8C8.5070007@shaw.ca> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 10:25:26 -0500 From: Cullen McCann To: Theo Smit , "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers United Articles and tech help - AMC T5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thank you so much Theo, works like a charm. this is exactly what I needed. Cullen On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Theo Smit wrote: > ... I fixed that particular article. Looks like a newer version of the > webserver program does not like blank lines at the start of .asp files, and > some of the TU articles have that, and some don't... > > Any Perl or Python gurus that can write a script to descend a (Unix) > directory tree, find .asp files, and strip blank lines from the head of > said files? > > Theo > > On 10/27/2014 2:04 PM, Cullen McCann wrote: > >> thank you everyone who contacted me off line. I forgot Theo was the TU >> site >> guy, I'm getting great help. Thank you! >> >> Cullen >> > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmccann1972@ > gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 11:18:29 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36DD72584F15 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:18:29 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mx0b-00176a03.pphosted.com (mx0b-00176a03.pphosted.com [67.231.157.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EEB72584645 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 10:56:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0048299.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by m0048299.ppops.net-00176a03. (8.14.7/8.14.7) with SMTP id s9SGspN5011640 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 12:59:48 -0400 Received: from alpmlip13.e2k.ad.ge.com (n165-156-000-000.static.ge.com [165.156.5.1] (may be forged)) by m0048299.ppops.net-00176a03. with ESMTP id 1qaensr0vv-3 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 12:59:48 -0400 Received: from unknown (HELO CINMBHT01.e2k.ad.ge.com) ([3.159.212.194]) by alpmlip13.e2k.ad.ge.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES128-SHA; 28 Oct 2014 12:55:17 -0400 Received: from CINURCNA18.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.212.155) by CINMBHT01.e2k.ad.ge.com (3.159.212.194) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.195.1; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 12:59:46 -0400 Received: from CINURCNA16.e2k.ad.ge.com ([169.254.4.150]) by CINURCNA18.e2k.ad.ge.com ([169.254.6.123]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 12:59:47 -0400 From: "Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light)" To: Theo Smit , "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Tigers United Articles and tech help - AMC T5 Thread-Index: AQHP8lL5Tg4On7Y4nkWY1Ec6mcB2DpxFvDpg Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 16:59:46 +0000 References: <544EF8C8.5070007@shaw.ca> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [3.159.212.187] engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-10-28_07:2014-10-28,2014-10-28,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1410280152 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers United Articles and tech help - AMC T5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Does Monty Python expertise count? -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Theo Smit Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers United Articles and tech help - AMC T5 Any Perl or Python gurus that can write a script to descend a (Unix) directory tree, find .asp files, and strip blank lines from the head of said files? Theo _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Oct 28 14:33:11 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F41A52584C84 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:33:10 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1bon0136.outbound.protection.outlook.com [157.56.111.136]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878892580751 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 14:26:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CO2PR04CA036.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.141.240.164) by DM2PR04MB464.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.141.105.22) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1054.13; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 20:29:37 +0000 Received: from BY2FFO11FD018.protection.gbl (2a01:111:f400:7c0c::195) by CO2PR04CA036.outlook.office365.com (2a01:111:e400:1428::36) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.6.9 via Frontend Transport; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 20:29:36 +0000 Received: from garmin.com (204.77.163.247) by BY2FFO11FD018.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.1.14.106) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1049.20 via Frontend Transport; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 20:29:35 +0000 Received: from OLAWPA-EXHT02.ad.garmin.com (10.5.143.142) by edgetransport.garmin.com (192.168.18.222) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.210.2; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:30:14 -0500 Received: from OLAWPA-EXMB06.ad.garmin.com ([169.254.5.33]) by OLAWPA-EXHT02.ad.garmin.com ([10.5.143.142]) with mapi id 14.03.0181.006; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:29:29 -0500 From: "Smit, Theo" To: "Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light)" , "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] Tigers United Articles and tech help - AMC T5 Thread-Index: AQHP8f20DexQFAuqmEy2S/3eduvQsZxEslYAgABjcgCAAPs1AP//1f8A Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 20:29:28 +0000 References: <544EF8C8.5070007@shaw.ca> <26805228D183EF4E9C6F4499BB55B05148B82CF1@CINURCNA16.e2k.ad.ge.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.1.140326 x-originating-ip: [10.5.143.129] Content-ID: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(438002)(23363002)(377454003)(24454002)(189002)(36304003)(199003)(377424004)(6806004)(107046002)(83506001)(44976005)(86362001)(19580405001)(92566001)(107886001)(77096002)(95666004)(81156004)(106116001)(23676002)(2656002)(84676001)(106466001)(16796002)(85852003)(40036004)(92726001)(31966008)(87936001)(99396003)(76176999)(120916001)(54356999)(50986999)(85306004)(93886004)(21056001)(4396001)(2501002)(97736003)(36756003)(68736004)(21086002)(69596002)(19580395003)(80022003)(47776003)(20776003)(50466002)(64706001)(46102003); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:DM2PR04MB464; H:garmin.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoDomainNonexistent; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; Received-SPF: Pass (protection.outlook.com: domain of garmin.com designates 204.77.163.247 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=204.77.163.247; helo=garmin.com; Authentication-Results: spf=pass (sender IP is 204.77.163.247) smtp.mailfrom=Theo.Smit@garmin.com; Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers United Articles and tech help - AMC T5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Only if therebs not too much spam in it ;) I worked my way through the tech tip articles last night and corrected them... Turns out there was one other fix that was required for some files, so it would have required a couple of passes to automate it all anyway. However, there is a bunch of other content that might be affected by this same problem so Ibll have to deal with them on a case by case basis. Cheers, Theo On 2014-10-28, 10:59 AM, "Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light)" wrote: >Does Monty Python expertise count? > ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete the message. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this communication (including attachments) by someone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Thank you. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 10:28:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDD5258489B for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 10:28:38 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f50.google.com (mail-oi0-f50.google.com [209.85.218.50]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A166925846CB for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 10:28:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f50.google.com with SMTP id v63so861575oia.23 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:31:37 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=56GzoPFRe8rJYrD54Is2N6hflc2jaF8Mn+8CzwQlO8g=; b=z5+gPD0kbSIJRyF0HV66phRINig3hyLKMaSs83qDRygUpLJ5H62UrFUp7KczhVqGEQ XlcUJKb81wG4icTqsZC3xJjuWuPGCfeMtFBlOfq6zbs8lxXfFDgE+iERmQYui9wW7wpV ZzSlliRG2xZQPYiFGoXQ2q4bwZaI3bj69DAgvq5c3S1DIfYU/QlCZIAjHuymv5XS5W8s CMyTInVWQfHjbfK+Tqx6hUqmE2pTGyA/8f7LgzyhSXEN/zS/aBJZ0S6CiPwR/AnRMh2I smvGzAwqzVWd1vAz3RAYYYvVhX05AJhNuyESbZGNjpzEw9MZ25pGD/CNuUYU/Ezp6lZ+ PhWw== yg9mr1418935oec.84.1414686697375; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.33.101 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 09:31:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:31:37 -0400 From: Jim Sencindiver To: Tiger List Subject: [Tigers] RHD Tiger (Project) For Sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net To the Tiger Faithful: A distant cousin of mine has a RHD Tiger project that he wants to sell. The particulars are in the forwarded emails. At least I hope the emails get forwarded! I have not seen this Tiger, but I have met Jim Garrett once to compare our mutual ancestors. Keep on Tigering! Jim Sencindiver B382100451/TAC 448 http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 12:12:12 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D115025849AF for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:12:12 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.bemta5.messagelabs.com (mail1.bemta5.messagelabs.com [195.245.231.140]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C158258487E for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:12:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [85.158.139.51] by server-4.bemta-5.messagelabs.com id 71/B4-22737-24082545; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:15:30 +0000 Received: (qmail 18133 invoked from network); 30 Oct 2014 18:15:29 -0000 Received: from mailgate2.akzonobel.com (HELO mailgate2.akzonobel.com) (144.95.74.8) by server-16.tower-180.messagelabs.com with RC4-SHA encrypted SMTP; 30 Oct 2014 18:15:29 -0000 Received: from ADCN116.d30.intra ([10.13.33.32]) by mailgate2.akzonobel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:15:28 +0100 Received: from ADCN139.d30.intra ([10.13.33.22]) by adcn116.d30.intra ([10.13.33.32]) with mapi id 14.03.0181.006; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 19:15:26 +0100 From: "Ronak, T.P. (Timothy)" To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: Tiger on Overhaul'in Thread-Index: Ac/0bToxSr8EVjNLQSShbEQcXitz0Q== Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 18:15:26 +0000 Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [10.13.33.209] FILETIME=[7BAB9A10:01CFF46D] Subject: [Tigers] Tiger on Overhaul'in Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Just a heads up to everyone ... seems that the TV show Overhaulin is doing a 65 Tiger for a shop teacher next Tuesday at 8 or 9 west coast time Not sure if it will be good or bad to see one modified if it is real but anything Tiger is worth watching ... I have already set my DVR Tim Ronak Senior Services Consultant Services Group AkzoNobel Automotive and Aerospace Coatings NA Fax (425) 955-6268 Cell (949) 289-3357 Email timothy.ronak@akzonobel.com Mailing Address 23961 Via El Rocio Mission Viejo, CA 92691 www.akzonobel.com "If a man dwells on the past, then he robs the present. 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RHD Tiger (Project) For Sale (Jim Sencindiver) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:31:37 -0400 From: Jim Sencindiver To: Tiger List Subject: [Tigers] RHD Tiger (Project) For Sale Message-ID: To the Tiger Faithful: A distant cousin of mine has a RHD Tiger project that he wants to sell. The particulars are in the forwarded emails. At least I hope the emails get forwarded! I have not seen this Tiger, but I have met Jim Garrett once to compare our mutual ancestors. Keep on Tigering! Jim Sencindiver B382100451/TAC 448 http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Tigers mailing list Tigers@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers ------------------------------ End of Tigers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 245 ************************************** ____________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for Viruses and Spam. For more information please contact your local Business Unit Information Security representative. ____________________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 12:53:06 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23FDE2584888 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:53:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08A002584787 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:47:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id uy5so4577346obc.26 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:50:41 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=zH+xhcwzrFensrerep8CmVi4QYSMWrTr0QNtjoEwEco=; b=E1LbqftjbQOVGZEha2jB9jwEBbVvANX4pRmwMh4uyNsicYJPbYXh/0ygv0eRRRrsjm MADqGG+OPJkQhpgdUaNe1sMXVJE40DemCI3jJrxEsiasjzGlRhiv2a/2DYzy6N+h7qhD mpiUJ9z++p5mtD/aroSv5WCWEA7gkVYNIQamn5p/Fr8FPFIY8p/htrdQT7Ox6oeUfXh/ oCinfJ0HDensFfLrMAqqbL5WEsX3VV2IwSRP3l/QcPcJP8TG333NYAipUHoo6Op4FYOJ Bswl6k+EHoPr+PxJVdiG26g5Wtp+nN3KJsZxOKakf4FQ4guvMWSwiynHkJlfZMgfcE07 auQQ== l12mr2966883obe.63.1414695041185; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.33.101 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 11:50:41 -0700 (PDT) References: <005101cff462$b31f50a0$195df1e0$@com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 14:50:41 -0400 From: Jim Sencindiver To: Joe Parlanti , Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] RHD Tiger (Project) For Sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Joe, Here's his first email: Hi Jim: This is your distant cousin who has the 65 (titled as a 66) RHD Tiger. I have finally admitted that I will never finish the restoration of this vehicle. I know you are very active in Tiger circles. If you know anyone interested in a mostly finished project, please let me know or pass on this email. Here's what done: Floor Quarters Exhaust cut outs rockers, inner, outer and center Gas tanks pulled and boiled out Engine rebuilt Rear end rebuilt (posi) new rear wheel wells NO rust, no dents Needs: Doors aligned block sanding trunk lid (have two) needs to be finished trunk itself is solid Essentially, it needs to be put back together. Hope all is well. I recently found a picture of my grt grt grandfather, Jacob Morgan Sencindiver, with his brother-in-law, Joseph Minghini, taken around 1900. Minghini was a courier for JEB Stuart and carried Pelham's body into Culpepper to Judge Shackleford's home. And here's his second email: Hi Jim: As I mentioned, it needs to be finished. I estimated that I have about $15,000 cash invested and lots of elbow grease. I would estimate to finish it, it would be about another $10,000 to $15,000 depending a lot on whether someone wants a driver or a garage princess. My understanding from Wally Swift (so you know that was a long time ago) that the total production run on Tigers was 7200 cars. Of that number, 200 were RHD. Wally thought there were probably about 50 to 75 RHD Tigers left. For a total investment of $30,000, someone would have a really rare Tiger and if so inclined easily make $20,000. And here's his email address: jim garrett On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Joe Parlanti wrote: > Jim, > > I know of someone looking for a project. Can you send me the particulars? > > Thanks, > > JVP > > > Joseph V. Parlanti > 16048 Copen Meadow Dr > North Potomac, Md. 20878 > Cell - 410-599-5475 > Email - jvparlanti@gmail.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jim > Sencindiver > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:32 PM > To: Tiger List > Subject: [Tigers] RHD Tiger (Project) For Sale > > To the Tiger Faithful: > > A distant cousin of mine has a RHD Tiger project that he wants to sell. > The particulars are in the forwarded emails. At least I hope the emails > get > forwarded! > > I have not seen this Tiger, but I have met Jim Garrett once to compare our > mutual ancestors. > > Keep on Tigering! > > Jim Sencindiver > > B382100451/TAC 448 > http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jvparlanti@gmail.com > > > -- Jim Sencindiver B382100451/TAC 448 http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Oct 30 13:53:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DED3E25845EF for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 13:53:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f179.google.com (mail-ie0-f179.google.com [209.85.223.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75933258083A for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 13:47:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f179.google.com with SMTP id ar1so6046559iec.38 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:50:35 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:reply-to:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=aKrH7AfH1LOztJnDf5cHmGUL5ppeQ/WzIf5nw4AIWV0=; b=M04Oua2FW+hlshpPc64LN9hgnj9fGbVAnXmQqI8EemQSmC0OgX0d1lv+CIBrxz5SNi vgq4LzJEWqhE1gouXlgs3f0JWRw5sGWmEn2QqN0Y8eWkXtmzjhA5XTQy6iWUYnL4lHr1 /wa1m4QZxm+mjXdtya6fDHK8SWxYsLBrYd1dtB32FCQbPN9hFSzn4EAl2nH+BnELAOF+ +f/UxneyeTqIcaDZMzN3KRwZUcPnjFIMJLJm09dl63jErS6O0HasF8Up6YQz1EZ/aYQE HrumZPuTv/WgvoFj8n/OEz6Z/dYi6cPBU6CzEU+0p8Gl2KFz2tvh80IPs05ebO1sVOKP bMrQ== Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.107.137.224 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Oct 2014 12:50:35 -0700 (PDT) References: <005101cff462$b31f50a0$195df1e0$@com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 15:50:35 -0400 From: Owain Lloyd To: Jim Sencindiver Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] RHD Tiger (Project) For Sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net 50 rhd tigers? Where does that estimate come from? What about all the tigers in the UK? On Thursday, October 30, 2014, Jim Sencindiver wrote: > Joe, > > Here's his first email: > > Hi Jim: > > This is your distant cousin who has the 65 (titled as a 66) RHD Tiger. I > have finally admitted that I will never finish the restoration of this > vehicle. I know you are very active in Tiger circles. If you know anyone > interested in a mostly finished project, please let me know or pass on this > email. > > Here's what done: > > Floor > Quarters > Exhaust cut outs > rockers, inner, outer and center > Gas tanks pulled and boiled out > Engine rebuilt > Rear end rebuilt (posi) > new rear wheel wells > NO rust, no dents > > Needs: > Doors aligned > block sanding > trunk lid (have two) needs to be finished > trunk itself is solid > > Essentially, it needs to be put back together. > > Hope all is well. I recently found a picture of my grt grt grandfather, > Jacob Morgan Sencindiver, with his brother-in-law, Joseph Minghini, taken > around 1900. Minghini was a courier for JEB Stuart and carried Pelham's > body into Culpepper to Judge Shackleford's home. > > And here's his second email: > > Hi Jim: > > As I mentioned, it needs to be finished. I estimated that I have about > $15,000 cash invested and lots of elbow grease. I would estimate to finish > it, it would be about another $10,000 to $15,000 depending a lot on whether > someone wants a driver or a garage princess. > > My understanding from Wally Swift (so you know that was a long time ago) > that the total production run on Tigers was 7200 cars. Of that number, 200 > were RHD. Wally thought there were probably about 50 to 75 RHD Tigers > left. For a total investment of $30,000, someone would have a really rare > Tiger and if so inclined easily make $20,000. > > And here's his email address: > > jim garrett > > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Joe Parlanti > wrote: > > > Jim, > > > > I know of someone looking for a project. Can you send me the particulars? > > > > Thanks, > > > > JVP > > > > > > Joseph V. Parlanti > > 16048 Copen Meadow Dr > > North Potomac, Md. 20878 > > Cell - 410-599-5475 > > Email - jvparlanti@gmail.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net ] On > Behalf Of Jim > > Sencindiver > > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 12:32 PM > > To: Tiger List > > Subject: [Tigers] RHD Tiger (Project) For Sale > > > > To the Tiger Faithful: > > > > A distant cousin of mine has a RHD Tiger project that he wants to sell. > > The particulars are in the forwarded emails. At least I hope the emails > > get > > forwarded! > > > > I have not seen this Tiger, but I have met Jim Garrett once to compare > our > > mutual ancestors. > > > > Keep on Tigering! > > > > Jim Sencindiver > > > > B382100451/TAC 448 > > http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp > > _______________________________________________ > > > > tigers@autox.team.net > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jvparlanti@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > -- > Jim Sencindiver > > B382100451/TAC 448 > http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/owain.lloyd@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 07:48:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 721D72584A50 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 07:48:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from nm41-vm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm41-vm1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.87.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D64258087D for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 07:47:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] by nm41.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Oct 2014 13:51:23 -0000 Received: from [98.137.12.58] by nm41.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Oct 2014 13:48:26 -0000 Received: from [66.196.81.174] by tm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Oct 2014 13:48:26 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.209] by tm20.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Oct 2014 13:48:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1018.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Oct 2014 13:48:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 57669 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Oct 2014 13:48:26 -0000 s=s1024; t=1414763306; bh=M954Hr3xmYPbEIQeJs6faP//oKH78ShHH5QHf+hm66g=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ost8RDdR/SyNkSruAXPqaw8P+E19bMX48nZ1bLyrw3spq6ghLNla4JjTQbzztw4iBllOL+0qa9GwtvvTMXoOmJaimb+oES2/CbVX5MNau9Z+uj9kWEJ5CwCEWDMJC98zx7lVG4rinOSjFN6/kHz5zoKFMlXGz2wqmy63Pko5qMY= WLd28RfXWY8kf6irD5YqsLUmbLA9qJcku3q98xisazIqqXOLftfXwaqnpr.m h5SlKNId8q_RY2t1ReZR.vhRvOWsWrVP4FRYqlOJK3M8xt1EeKkxhBG1G6wF qUJGSEekmBAxb1.cSrfPI6DCI8z0v6hfeVTc1A8z0xXDNpVB0rf9Yt1e_Mn2 A1uCGIjYYtaUW2lt6stDm80rWajUpvUEvjB8gChrXS5Ee2BLls2ZBN6tKuFm h7Hxb5TcJdnsx0c14qUyAB0MpmvH4l5ddOGqDUiKLDCKRcqSBHzdFOJVxD6V e2tiU7bWJQ3e3OYNFC6LQzhl7y68nAMsvQdCYBOqgUCZemThVQ6EH7P8MTNU jNSNaDmjgj0qPR0QLW0eJmFhhpJZv2UfWFutWPscoFrYbunerNQwUPUdLKut JWDXDT4sf97hx9M4v3InVmNnbzcWu5hYvIUZU6Exk1rJANRkMoxuFZXNys88 nAHPlExyPBlWrH5pqLs4mNeZCnwL6rWRYOptB1_ZPbLoe Received: from [173.48.171.211] by web162704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 06:48:26 PDT SXMgdGhhdCBudW1iZXIgcmVwcmVzZW50IHRoZSBudW1iZXIgb2YgZXhpc3RpbmcgUkhEIGNhcnMsIG9yIHRoZSBvcmlnaW5hbCBudW1iZXIgYnVpbHQgd2l0aCBSSEQuIE9mZmhhbmQsIGp1c3QgdGhlIG51bWJlciBvZiBNZXRybyBQb2xpY2UgY2FycyB3b3VsZCBhY2NvdW50IGZvciAyMCBwZXJjZW50IG9mIHRoYXQgY291bnQuIEl0IGRvZXMgc2VlbSB1bnVzdWFsbHkgbG93LgoKUmFuZGUgQmVsbG1hbgoBMAEBAQE- Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 06:48:26 -0700 From: snakebit289 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" Subject: [Tigers] RHD Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Is that number represent the number of existing RHD cars, or the original number built with RHD. Offhand, just the number of Metro Police cars would account for 20 percent of that count. It does seem unusually low. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 08:18:20 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BAB25844E9 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:18:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (imta-38.everyone.net [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97B225845FC for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:12:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta003.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s9VEEgkV021185; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 07:16:14 -0700 Received: by sj1-dm103.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - d1a6a206) id sj1-dm103.545053b1.2cde5; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 07:16:12 -0700 Received: from ronpc1 ([64.24.145.120]) by rcluster-6-1.propel.com; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:16:08 -0000 From: " Ron Fraser" To: "'snakebit289'" , Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 10:16:02 -0400 Thread-Index: Ac/1EcjZfIeNGh5lThG/M+R27FmjNgAArl4g engine=2.50.10432:5.12.52,1.0.28,0.0.0000 definitions=2014-10-31_05:2014-10-31,2014-10-31,1970-01-01 signatures=0 spamscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=7.0.1-1402240000 definitions=main-1410310139 Subject: Re: [Tigers] RHD Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Norman Miller or Graham Vickery probably have a better handle on how many RHD Tigers were built. If all the CKD Tigers to Africa are RHD, the B948 series, there were 73 of them. Tracking down how many RHD Tigers are still around is a harder task. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of snakebit289 Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 9:48 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] RHD Tigers Is that number represent the number of existing RHD cars, or the original number built with RHD. Offhand, just the number of Metro Police cars would account for 20 percent of that count. It does seem unusually low. Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 08:18:40 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4715D2584496 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:18:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from na01-bn1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-bn1on0142.outbound.protection.outlook.com [157.56.110.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 764982580582 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:17:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DM2PR04CA043.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.141.154.161) by BN1PR04MB454.namprd04.prod.outlook.com (10.141.59.19) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.6.9; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:20:23 +0000 Received: from BY2FFO11FD029.protection.gbl (2a01:111:f400:7c0c::144) by DM2PR04CA043.outlook.office365.com (2a01:111:e400:243c::33) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.11.14 via Frontend Transport; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:20:22 +0000 Received: from garmin.com (204.77.163.247) by BY2FFO11FD029.mail.protection.outlook.com (10.1.14.212) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.6.13 via Frontend Transport; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:20:22 +0000 Received: from OLAWPA-EXHT06.ad.garmin.com (10.2.0.28) by edgetransport.garmin.com (192.168.18.221) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.210.2; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:20:48 -0500 Received: from OLAWPA-EXMB06.ad.garmin.com ([169.254.5.33]) by olawpa-exht06.ad.garmin.com ([10.2.0.28]) with mapi id 14.03.0181.006; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:20:20 -0500 From: "Smit, Theo" To: snakebit289 , "tigers@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: [Tigers] RHD Tigers Thread-Index: AQHP9RHYGvoyRKXwjUmYKeAwmQLg65xKMLAA Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 14:20:20 +0000 References: <1414763306.69216.YahooMailNeo@web162704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/14.4.1.140326 x-originating-ip: [10.5.143.129] Content-ID: <906DB2ABA90A13408C77461544E9CBF6@garmin.com> SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(438002)(377454003)(377424004)(36304003)(51704005)(24454002)(189002)(199003)(50986999)(36756003)(84676001)(2521001)(21056001)(2501002)(83506001)(6806004)(76176999)(92566001)(15975445006)(120916001)(86362001)(31966008)(54356999)(77156002)(450100001)(92726001)(2656002)(4396001)(97736003)(87936001)(16796002)(46102003)(69596002)(81156004)(106466001)(106116001)(107886001)(99396003)(107046002)(44976005)(23676002)(19580395003)(40036004)(19580405001)(64706001)(47776003)(68736004)(95666004)(50466002)(15202345003)(20776003)(62966003)(77096003); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BN1PR04MB454; H:garmin.com; FPR:; MLV:sfv; PTR:InfoDomainNonexistent; MX:1; A:1; LANG:en; Received-SPF: Pass (protection.outlook.com: domain of garmin.com designates 204.77.163.247 as permitted sender) receiver=protection.outlook.com; client-ip=204.77.163.247; helo=garmin.com; Authentication-Results: spf=pass (sender IP is 204.77.163.247) smtp.mailfrom=Theo.Smit@garmin.com; Subject: Re: [Tigers] RHD Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Canbt be the original number built with RHD, at least not if you count the 73 or 74 African CKD Tigers. They were all RHD. I donbt recall offhand what the statistics are or if anyonebs broken it down and published the number, but even though the primary market for the Tiger was intended to be North America I thought at least 1/4 of all Tigers were RHD. Theo On 2014-10-31, 7:48 AM, "snakebit289" wrote: >Is that number represent the number of existing RHD cars, or the original >number built with RHD. Offhand, just the number of Metro Police cars >would account for 20 percent of that count. It does seem unusually low. > >Rande Bellman >_______________________________________________ > >tigers@autox.team.net > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/theo.smit@garmin.com > > ________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and contain information that may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and delete the message. Any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of this communication (including attachments) by someone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. Thank you. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 08:20:50 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 354C925844A4 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:20:50 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa12-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa12-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [68.178.252.231]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F9E72584453 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:20:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.107] ([216.222.142.106]) by p3plsmtpa12-02.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 9qQ31p00A2Hwcgw01qQ4TX; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 07:24:08 -0700 Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 10:23:34 -0400 From: Chris Thompson User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.6.0 To: "Smit, Theo" , snakebit289 , "tigers@autox.team.net" References: <1414763306.69216.YahooMailNeo@web162704.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Tigers] RHD Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net The original post said of 200 RHD Tigers made, maybe 50 survive.... On 10/31/2014 10:20 AM, Smit, Theo wrote: > Canbt be the original number built with RHD, at least not if you count the > 73 or 74 African CKD Tigers. They were all RHD. > > I donbt recall offhand what the statistics are or if anyonebs broken it > down and published the number, but even though the primary market for the > Tiger was intended to be North America I thought at least 1/4 of all > Tigers were RHD. > > Theo > > On 2014-10-31, 7:48 AM, "snakebit289" wrote: > >> Is that number represent the number of existing RHD cars, or the original >> number built with RHD. Offhand, just the number of Metro Police cars >> would account for 20 percent of that count. It does seem unusually low. >> >> Rande Bellman _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 09:33:56 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E4E258099D for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:33:56 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi0-f41.google.com (mail-oi0-f41.google.com [209.85.218.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CBB25806FD for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:28:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi0-f41.google.com with SMTP id e131so5908075oig.0 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:31:28 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=P5JMz307VdcQ/LWyDwBadRGoUvl7Iv/7xAnjHOweHUI=; b=cTeWd/R/ImvS0bH1vAwnVeGeSC78LWBGYtUDpXMKHzzEwQm90IVSAyMsBn8viRx8iI aDMJmZL8hcO2Y/tAY9agsgN4X/sb/IRha49tfV620UzAPs++Al/psQZMmYOa1CXzhlJ1 Zs999jWZnxlDtgt1KW2SZOxcrhfUE47yYQFI4JpovJD4uInwsQrCBM5e/SNeX75PLKjk vfRoNkMLXM0mTpmduMdZnRt51smX9KOvYjlRGgBNS0FUbsJ/ZC+1ZXydV2HP28dBQXvj aU6e01cti4U20euJrk4hmrrr32VDn8HyJzj82kYmPLhCQG3Aea4T7/NRjYymxDUNmNxG QGjQ== ly13mr1134920oeb.79.1414769488116; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.33.101 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:31:28 -0700 (PDT) References: <005101cff462$b31f50a0$195df1e0$@com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 11:31:28 -0400 From: Jim Sencindiver To: owain.lloyd@gmail.com Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] RHD Tiger (Project) For Sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net IIRC, someone said that of the 7,085 tigers produced, about 6,000 were sent to the U.S. That would leave about 1,000 Tigers split between the UK and the rest of Europe. I would think that they sold more Tigers in the UK than they did in the rest of Europe, so that would mean al least 500 RHD Tigers. On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Owain Lloyd wrote: > 50 rhd tigers? Where does that estimate come from? What about all the > tigers in the UK? > > Keep on Tigering! > > Jim Sencindiver B382100451/TAC 448 http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 09:37:17 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B112580B24 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:37:16 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail02.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 7EA192580771 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:37:02 -0600 (MDT) s=alpha; t=1414770025; bh=47DEQpj8HBSa+/TImW+5JCeuQeRkm5NMpJWZG3hSuFU=; l=0; h=To:Date:Subject:Content-Type:From:Message-Id; b=F7oHBr6kX8ajj/ZE7uLicGBD8SPp7YpnsIPJJjemhgVFCgmrV8a6ez+Ql5YgRk6lW G7DPp/WhVQBckx03pWnYnc1nqgRh2X8Et5luvPFb49gLVuiHHn9CXW5v2HyZy0lBp5 EiRt9obfimDJiJLR6qJhJ+YCf8o/CcCof+3jpIc8= Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (mailpop06.vgs.untd.com [10.181.45.26]) by smtpout04.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABLFHMLQAPSNA72 for (sender ); Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:39:58 -0700 (PDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 08:38:39 -0800 From: Subject: [Tigers] Overhaulin Tiger Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Double check your DVR time. It's listed as Nov 4, 9 PM EASTERN (6 PM pacific) ...of course, they will replay it about a billion times....eventually. DW ____________________________________________________________ Map Your Flood Risk Find Floodplan Maps, Facts, FAQs, Your Flood Risk Profile and More! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/5453ad4e7db752d4e4fb9st04vuc _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Oct 31 10:05:04 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18BF125844A7 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 10:05:04 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f173.google.com (mail-ie0-f173.google.com [209.85.223.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4B142580771 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 10:04:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ie0-f173.google.com with SMTP id tr6so1568115ieb.4 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:08:10 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=pyrLFA5IUSwlMgf85m08WhBBMeyFV+0ELob33GOT9Ps=; b=L3DrFkmn6legq0cUUIn0TVgQ1e32i14Ke2QmgLj+yPPgiWd4Ryz5zMJ+IaD4eb3ZTi I4Wtjo8Fxsjb41g7vxoKKlaWv6ByxY9HSln7PuS7upmx0D2PTL0B6G7+HZbNvdVUeaV+ yGQ8JO7DXKs2Bacd8u4cKf8TS0yBV8YBqaA1C4aazrXpCR50YEIcGoydC3YfWgKCMsG0 1XmFnkRm2ZEVaHN8AbFonEaPwIxAXFaBOVCMtlU0XhICa9nrJNeWuVBBcX7yY3lU0lhE wzcCcu1O+m57eSc474XQGJdXHCcSGEB9rOX0ywsQVi455Npa3a3E13JfDX5ISTj2UfEW zWkw== h6mr5379123igy.25.1414771690106; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:08:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.100.168 with HTTP; Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:08:10 -0700 (PDT) References: <005101cff462$b31f50a0$195df1e0$@com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 11:08:10 -0500 From: Cullen McCann To: Jim Sencindiver Cc: Tiger List Subject: Re: [Tigers] RHD Tiger (Project) For Sale Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I had checked TBON recently while doing research for my euro spec tiger "LROFE" and it says this: "....The majority of us deal with LRXFE - an exported, left-hand drive, roadster, with non-standard specifications and a Ford engine. A few might have an HROFE a right-hand drive car, originally sold in England, which is a roadster with standard specifications and a Ford engine. Fewer still might have an LROFE or an RROFE. And then we have the 73 South African variants of WRO..... " I read it to mean that if a "few" are HROFE which is home market England...and "fewer still" are LROFE ( Left hand Europe, NOT England Market) or RROFE ( Right hand Europe, not England) ...then that seems to mean what Jim said, that the majority are in England, and the balance of those in Europe would be in surrounding countries. (HRO and RRO cars for the RHD configuration.) Cullen On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Jim Sencindiver wrote: > IIRC, someone said that of the 7,085 tigers produced, about 6,000 were sent > to the U.S. That would leave about 1,000 Tigers split between the UK and > the rest of Europe. I would think that they sold more Tigers in the UK > than they did in the rest of Europe, so that would mean al least 500 RHD > Tigers. > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Owain Lloyd > wrote: > > > 50 rhd tigers? Where does that estimate come from? What about all the > > tigers in the UK? > > > > Keep on Tigering! > > > > > > Jim Sencindiver > > B382100451/TAC 448 > http://www.tigersunited.com/car_show/sencindiver_j/default.asp > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/cmccann1972@gmail.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net