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From: Brent Edinger <banana111@msn.com>
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Ever since the last overhaul and I insulated the car the engine automatic heat
is no longer working.
For the first time in 35 years the wife made me stop and put the top up due we
were freezing
coming over grants pass. Not sure I could of made it but I can blame her cause
she was first
to flinch.
I took my motor apart and the brass ball bearings were frozen onto the shaft.
I got them off and
lubed up but I think I want to put a brand new one in there so I'll never
(yeah right) have to
mess with it again.  Victoria british has one for $90 for the Tiger, I think
I'll give it a try.

                     Brent

Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 23:56:28 -0500
From: " Ron Fraser" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
To: <owain.lloyd@gmail.com>, "'Tom Witt'" <atwittsend@verizon.net>
Cc: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger blower motor

	Just remove the shifter boot and you will have a constant flow of
heat. :)

Generally the problem with the blower motor is that the bushings seize to
the motor shaft.  You can get inside the motor but you need to be a bit
careful pulling it apart.  Remove the bushings from the shaft, clean them,
soak them in oil, clean the motor shaft, assemble the blower motor.

Ron Fraser
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From: Tom Parker <tkparker1941@gmail.com>
To: Brent Edinger <banana111@msn.com>
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Brent, I used the VB blower motor; it worked.

Tom
;67 Mark 2

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 2:41 PM, Brent Edinger <banana111@msn.com> wrote:

> Ever since the last overhaul and I insulated the car the engine automatic
> heat
> is no longer working.
> For the first time in 35 years the wife made me stop and put the top up
> due we
> were freezing
> coming over grants pass. Not sure I could of made it but I can blame her
> cause
> she was first
> to flinch.
> I took my motor apart and the brass ball bearings were frozen onto the
> shaft.
> I got them off and
> lubed up but I think I want to put a brand new one in there so I'll never
> (yeah right) have to
> mess with it again.  Victoria british has one for $90 for the Tiger, I
> think
> I'll give it a try.
>
>                      Brent
>
> Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 23:56:28 -0500
> From: " Ron Fraser" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
> To: <owain.lloyd@gmail.com>, "'Tom Witt'" <atwittsend@verizon.net>
> Cc: tigers@autox.team.net
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>         Just remove the shifter boot and you will have a constant flow of
> heat. :)
>
> Generally the problem with the blower motor is that the bushings seize to
> the motor shaft.  You can get inside the motor but you need to be a bit
> careful pulling it apart.  Remove the bushings from the shaft, clean them,
> soak them in oil, clean the motor shaft, assemble the blower motor.
>
> Ron Fraser
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Brent
	I forget the exact details but my blower motor was turning very
slowly and making much noise.  The motor was drawing over 3 amps to make it
turn; after I cleaned and lubed everything the motor was turning fast and
drawing less then an amp.
I think it was drawing around .1 amp but memory fails at that detail.  This
is just a way to judge the condition of the blower motor and bearings.

	It would be interesting to know what a new motor draws when running.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Brent
Edinger
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 2:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger blower motor


Ever since the last overhaul and I insulated the car the engine automatic
heat is no longer working. For the first time in 35 years the wife made me
stop and put the top up due we were freezing coming over grants pass. Not
sure I could of made it but I can blame her cause she was first to flinch. I
took my motor apart and the brass ball bearings were frozen onto the shaft.
I got them off and lubed up but I think I want to put a brand new one in
there so I'll never (yeah right) have to mess with it again.  Victoria
british has one for $90 for the Tiger, I think I'll give it a try.

                     Brent

Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 23:56:28 -0500
From: " Ron Fraser" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
To: <owain.lloyd@gmail.com>, "'Tom Witt'" <atwittsend@verizon.net>
Cc: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger blower motor

	Just remove the shifter boot and you will have a constant flow of
heat. :)

Generally the problem with the blower motor is that the bushings seize to
the motor shaft.  You can get inside the motor but you need to be a bit
careful pulling it apart.  Remove the bushings from the shaft, clean them,
soak them in oil, clean the motor shaft, assemble the blower motor.

Ron Fraser
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Brent,

Therebs a two-speed blower motor on eBay, currently bid at $52.00:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/121500062732?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=
STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Might be a good deal if it doesnbt bid up to something astronomical.



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-----Original Message-----
From: Brent Edinger
Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 10:56 PM
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger blower motor

After 35 years with no heater I'm in the market for a new heater blower
motor,
any one
have a good source?  I see moss has one that looks right and is from a MGA.
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Collectible Classic: 1965-1967 Sunbeam Tiger

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| Collectible Classic: 1965-1967 Sunbeam TigerCarroll Shelby's affordable
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| View on www.automobilemag.com | Preview by Yahoo |
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Nice article.  That's the car that was featured in one of Jay Leno's Garage 
episodes.



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Collectible Classic: 1965-1967 Sunbeam Tiger

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Kind of strange article, though. It felt like it was written two years 
ago.
;-)

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Nice article.  That's the car that was featured in one of Jay Leno's 
Garage
episodes.



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Hello,
 
Perhaps a year ago, I read an article in Auto Restorer about a fellow  that 
took on a mobile dry-ice blasting franchise.
I've tried for month to find a company that will either come to me or I and 
 my Tiger to them (trunk compartment restoration).
No joy in any local yellow pages. Any leads on how I can hook up with this  
kind of service?  

Jim  Armstrong
382002083
Mk 1A
code  86
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You didn't state where you lived, but this service shows where services can 
be found by zip code. On the left of the screen click on "local contact 
cleaner" http://www.dryicecleaning.com/en/index.php  .  The service is not 
limited to autos. So, it may be under other terms in the yellow pages. Then 
again, it is a relatively new service and the yellow pages have become a 
rather archaic form of information.  A web site can be updated in a moment, 
at any time. The yellow pages... - yearly.

>From a Google search of "Dry Ice Blasting" a significant number of hits came 
up. Granted many were to get into the business or rental of the equipment. 
Hope this at least gets you started.

------------

Hello,

Perhaps a year ago, I read an article in Auto Restorer about a fellow  that
took on a mobile dry-ice blasting franchise.
I've tried for month to find a company that will either come to me or I and
my Tiger to them (trunk compartment restoration).
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kind of service?

Jim  Armstrong
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Mk 1A
code  86 
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Great Job Mike Michels! You continue to be a top notch representative!!

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> Nice article.  That's the car that was featured in one of Jay Leno's
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Well,
 
Thanks to all. You have to love the list!
I found a place that does ice blasting in Worcester, MA some 50 miles from  
home (Marblehead, MA)
That's doable...
I'll let you all know how it turns out when I do it. BTW: reason for the  
blasting is that the trunk floor is covered with a black tarry material that  
comes off on your hands.
I'm sick of it. PO's idea on how to hide surface rust on the trunk  floor.
 
Jim Armstrong
 
 
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tigers-request@autox.team.net writes:

http://www.dryicecleaning.com/en/index.php
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Wait a minute, isn't that an OEM material made out of compressed peat?
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"Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2014 17:11:43 -0500
From: Rollright@aol.com
BTW: reason for the blasting is that the trunk floor is covered with a black
tarry material that comes off on your hands.
I'm sick of it. PO's idea on how to hide surface rust on the trunk  floor."
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"Well,
  
Thanks to all. You have to love the list!
I found a place that does ice blasting in Worcester, MA some 50 miles from
home (Marblehead, MA)
That's doable...
I'll let you all know how it turns out when I do it. BTW: reason for the
blasting is that the trunk floor is covered with a black tarry material that
comes off on your hands.
I'm sick of it. PO's idea on how to hide surface rust on the trunk  floor.
  
Jim Armstrong"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Actually, the tarry substance is easily removed by slathering the surface
with seal blubber and then hosing it off.

An old Yankee solution to rust problems. Using dry ice just injects more CO2
into the atmosphere. What we need is a nuclear option to solve this problem.

Cheers,

Tod Brown
B382002384LRXFE
Warren, ME
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So the V8 Harrington hits the block next month:

http://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/cars-we-love-sunbeam-tiger

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The current owner from Calgary was at Tiger 50 in the UK this summer. At the
end of Sept, he told me that he was sending it out to Rudi Koniczek(sp?) in
Victoria on Vancouver Island to sell for him. Rudi is well known for his
Mercedes 300SL restorations, but he did have a Tiger when I first met him in
the 70's.

I suppose the last two that sold at auction may have influenced his decision.
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There is some consistent confusion about this car and a couple of 
specific errors
in this piece.

First, there were, indeed, as everyone knows, two prototypes. However, 
only one
made the trip to the factory, that being the Shelby prototype, which was the
more highly developed car.

Secondly, although a minor error, the horsepower of the stock engine is 164,
not 166 as stated in the article.

But, more disappointing is the perpetuation of the confusion between 
this car
and the three competition cars fielded by the Rootes factory at the 1964 24
hour race at Le Mans. These three competition cars were built by Lister with
engines by Shelby. These cars, since they ran at Le Mans, are commonly
known as the Le Mans Tigers or, alternatively, Lister Tigers. Their 
bodies were
fastbacks, in order to improve the aerodynamics (i. e. top speed). The 
car being
auctioned by RM is emphatically NOT one of the Lister/Le Mans Tigers. The
confusion comes from two sources. The first is that the RM car is also a 
fastback,
like the Lister/Le Mans Tigers, but that does not make it a Lister/Le 
Mans Tiger.
Secondly, the RM car was built by Harrington, as mentioned in the 
article, not Lister.
Harrington had built a number of fastback conversions of the Alpine and 
one of
those cars had run at the Le Mans Twenty-Four race and had won the 
"Index of
Thermal Efficiency". As a result of their success, the Harrington Alpine 
Coupes
were known as "Le Mans Coupes". But, again, the Harrington Tiger (of 
which there
is only one) never ran at Le Mans and was never referred to by that name by
Harrington.

The history of the Harrington Tiger can be found at:
http://www.harringtonalpine.org/index.php?categoryid=99

An article about the Lister/Le Mans Tigers by Alex Gabbard can be found 
in the December issue
of /Rootes Review/, the monthly publication of Tigers East/Alpines East 
of which I am the editor.

Cheers,

Tod Brown
B382002384LRXFE





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> So the V8 Harrington hits the block next month:
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Tod
	There will always be confusion within the subject until we in the
Rootes community seek out the confusion and make corrections.  I find that
writing articles without confusion is difficult for me.  I have to edit
multiple times over several days to clarify my written words. Writing is not
easy for me, it never has and then there's punctuation. :(

Typos and clerical errors are another huge problem when it comes to writing.

	I have been studying the Stock engine configuration for the Tiger.
The statement that the Tiger 260 engine's horsepower rating is 164 is
somewhat incorrect.  This is however the accepted HP rating for the Tiger
260 engine.

Ford only tested the early 260 engine which was based on the 221 engine
configuration @ 164 HP.  This was gross HP, the norm for reporting HP
ratings at that time.

The Harrington Tiger in this article indicates it has an F21KA group engine.
This is a later 260 engine configuration similar to the majority of Tiger
260 engines and has larger valves in the head.   This engine configuration
was never tested by Ford for HP rating; according to Bob Mannel's Small
Block Ford engine book.

I have never seen independent dyno tests for the stock Tiger engines, 260 or
289; that would be an interesting study.
My guess is that an F21KA 260 engine configuration would have a gross HP
rating around 180 HP.

My 2 cents and yes I had to edit the heck out of even this for clarity.
Hopefully, I accomplished some clarity here.

Ron Fraser

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There is some consistent confusion about this car and a couple of
specific errors
in this piece.

First, there were, indeed, as everyone knows, two prototypes. However,
only one
made the trip to the factory, that being the Shelby prototype, which was the
more highly developed car.

Secondly, although a minor error, the horsepower of the stock engine is 164,
not 166 as stated in the article.
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Ron:

I would agree with what you have said. My point is that the advertised 
hp for the
Tiger 260 (for right or wrong) was 164 hp, not 166 as quoted in the 
article. Your
figure of 180 is probably closer to the truth, given the changes you 
mention and
that the later 289 cubic inch engine was rated at 200 hp. Editing is 
something I
have to pay attention to for a couple of reasons. First because my wife 
is an
editor, professionally, and we are the editors of the newsletter for 
TE/AE. I find
that, even when you have been as careful as you think possible in your 
editing,
there will always be something else that you missed. The goal should be
perfection, but we can realistically only hope to come close.

Cheers,

Tod
B382002384LRXFE





On 12/8/2014 11:28 AM, Ron Fraser wrote:
> Tod
> 	There will always be confusion within the subject until we in the
> Rootes community seek out the confusion and make corrections.  I find that
> writing articles without confusion is difficult for me.  I have to edit
> multiple times over several days to clarify my written words. Writing is not
> easy for me, it never has and then there's punctuation. :(
>
> Typos and clerical errors are another huge problem when it comes to writing.
>
> 	I have been studying the Stock engine configuration for the Tiger.
> The statement that the Tiger 260 engine's horsepower rating is 164 is
> somewhat incorrect.  This is however the accepted HP rating for the Tiger
> 260 engine.
>
> Ford only tested the early 260 engine which was based on the 221 engine
> configuration @ 164 HP.  This was gross HP, the norm for reporting HP
> ratings at that time.
>
> The Harrington Tiger in this article indicates it has an F21KA group engine.
> This is a later 260 engine configuration similar to the majority of Tiger
> 260 engines and has larger valves in the head.   This engine configuration
> was never tested by Ford for HP rating; according to Bob Mannel's Small
> Block Ford engine book.
>
> I have never seen independent dyno tests for the stock Tiger engines, 260 or
> 289; that would be an interesting study.
> My guess is that an F21KA 260 engine configuration would have a gross HP
> rating around 180 HP.
>
> My 2 cents and yes I had to edit the heck out of even this for clarity.
> Hopefully, I accomplished some clarity here.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Tod Brown
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2014 1:15 AM
> To: tigers@autox.team.net; Pointers
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 276
>
>
> There is some consistent confusion about this car and a couple of
> specific errors
> in this piece.
>
> First, there were, indeed, as everyone knows, two prototypes. However,
> only one
> made the trip to the factory, that being the Shelby prototype, which was the
> more highly developed car.
>
> Secondly, although a minor error, the horsepower of the stock engine is 164,
> not 166 as stated in the article.
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Ron,

Very interesting..
Being involved with Tigers since 1971, I have never seen that info
before!
What do you think the "net" rating would be?
Oh, excellent writing.

Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
To: 'Tod Brown' <todbrown@roadrunner.com>, tigers@autox.team.net, 'Pointers' <gpointer@telusplanet.net>
Sent: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 16:28:17 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 276

Tod
	There will always be confusion within the subject until we in the
Rootes community seek out the confusion and make corrections.  I find that
writing articles without confusion is difficult for me.  I have to edit
multiple times over several days to clarify my written words. Writing is not
easy for me, it never has and then there's punctuation. :(

Typos and clerical errors are another huge problem when it comes to writing.

	I have been studying the Stock engine configuration for the Tiger.
The statement that the Tiger 260 engine's horsepower rating is 164 is
somewhat incorrect.  This is however the accepted HP rating for the Tiger
260 engine.

Ford only tested the early 260 engine which was based on the 221 engine
configuration @ 164 HP.  This was gross HP, the norm for reporting HP
ratings at that time.

The Harrington Tiger in this article indicates it has an F21KA group engine.
This is a later 260 engine configuration similar to the majority of Tiger
260 engines and has larger valves in the head.   This engine configuration
was never tested by Ford for HP rating; according to Bob Mannel's Small
Block Ford engine book.

I have never seen independent dyno tests for the stock Tiger engines, 260 or
289; that would be an interesting study.
My guess is that an F21KA 260 engine configuration would have a gross HP
rating around 180 HP.

My 2 cents and yes I had to edit the heck out of even this for clarity.
Hopefully, I accomplished some clarity here.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 6, Issue 276


There is some consistent confusion about this car and a couple of
specific errors
in this piece.

First, there were, indeed, as everyone knows, two prototypes. However,
only one
made the trip to the factory, that being the Shelby prototype, which was the
more highly developed car.

Secondly, although a minor error, the horsepower of the stock engine is 164,
not 166 as stated in the article.
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There were actually multiple versions of the Harrington Alpine - going
along with the different underlying Alpine - that is, the early pointy
fins, a Series 3 base, and a Series 4 base.  But, there was actually a
Harrington called the "Le Mans."  This one did not have any fins.  It said
Le Mans on it as well.  It was of course celebrating the Le Mans victory.
But the car that won at Le Mans (the Index of Efficiency) was a very unique
car itself.  It did not have the standard Alpine/Tiger headlights.
Instead, a lot of sheet metal work was done and headlights like an XKE were
installed, that were flowed back and were covered.

Here is a link to the production Le Mans version:

http://www.harringtonalpine.org/index.php?categoryid=12

I've never seen one in person.  They look a bit odd and droopy in the back
to me.

Here is a link to the Le Mans winner (coolest ever):

http://www.rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=668572

with more color pictures here:
http://www.harringtonalpine.org/index.php?categoryid=57

Jay
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Gary, Ron, Tod et al,
I think anyone who has followed Fords, Cobras, and Tigers since the mid-1960s
saw that horsepower figure of 166 from RM, and was stopped in their tracks.
Personally, I noticed the discrepancy and just added it to the list of other
sloppy errors in the printed narration of the car. If RM writers were
journalists, they would have looked up what's been written about the car in
the last 50 years, and Tigers in general, and attributed their information to
the source they took it from, and/or fact checked the narration. I won't 'out'
some owners who have given erroneous information away about Tigers in general
or their own cars specifically, but as Ron posted, it takes patience to go
back and verify what was written for clarity and accuracy purposes.B  RM
certainly did not do that. As late as the European Alpine V8(Tiger IA) sales
folder printing,B  the Tiger roadster was still rated by Rootes at 164 b.h.p.
for the 260 motor.
Rande Bellman
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When I first saw RM's ad regarding this Tiger, and being a past customer of
theirs, I called RM so they would at least be advised of the
misrepresentations made in the copy.  They weren't able to transfer me to
anyone who could but would be sure to return my call.  I'm not holding my
breath.  I've always had a good impression of RM's integrity but their
misleading ad and lack of response to me has significantly lowered  my
opinion of their company.

Darrell
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That ad description has about as high a factual-errors-to-word ratio as
the Wikipedia Tiger article.

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I just replaced my ancient Facet pump with a new one (40104)  The old one
was quite noisy when dry or vapor locked, but settled down to a gentle
clatter when actually pumping fuel.  The new one is maybe a little noisier
when dry, but still makes quite a clattering commotion when wet.  It is
bolted directly to sheet metal, not rubber isolated or anything.  And once
the engine starts, it is drowned out.  It seems to be pumping OK.

I'm just curious, is this normal for the Facets of today?

Stu
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Gorgeous 1965 Sunbeam Tiger Up For Auction

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| Gorgeous 1965 Sunbeam Tiger Up For AuctionThis beautiful 1965 Sunbeam Tiger
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| View on autos.yahoo.com | Preview by Yahoo |
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I don9t know the development history of many of the Tiger9s
contemporaries, but it does seem that there were a lot of fairly
significant names that played at least a small part in the origins and
evolution of the Tiger specifically. Somewhat disappointing that those
names are now being quoted out of all proportion to the actual role they
played, and that very few of the auction ad writers are doing any fact
checking at all.

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>Gorgeous 1965 Sunbeam Tiger Up For Auction


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Gorgeous 1965 Sunbeam Tiger Up For Auction

| B  |
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| Gorgeous 1965 Sunbeam Tiger Up For AuctionThis beautiful 1965 Sunbeam
| Tiger
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|  |
| View on autos.yahoo.com | Preview by Yahoo |  | B  |
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Because this latest tale of the Harrington Tiger specifically and Tigers in general appeared in a blog by a BoldRide reporter on Bold Ride and was picked up by Yahoo Autos, I answered as best I could through my Yahoo account.
It's poor reporting enough when an auction house won't fact-check one of their narrations for cars they plan to gavel off, it's another when an automotive blog comes up with their own fiction separate from RM, as an apparently new reporter from BoldRide did earlier today.
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Sounds like John Lovetts wannabe's, "Ya, that's it, that's the story"...
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     On Thursday, December 11, 2014 3:59 PM, Tod Brown <todbrown@roadrunner.com> wrote:
   

 Do these guys work for the CIA?

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Anybody know an easy way to replace a heater control valve cable?
the old one was cut off short under the dash so I can't use the old
one to help route a new one. Looking up in there it appears to be the first
thing installed then buried behind everything else under there.
Also the control lever also sends the cable off to the passenger side
of the car but the hole in the firewall is on the driver side??
Any advice would be great.

       Thanks, Brent
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Brent
1	I would try shrink tubing to tie the new cable to the old one on the
engine side then push it through.  Probably, it would help to have someone
under the dash to help feed the cable.

2	Tie some heavy string or a wire to one end of the old cable and pull
it through; tie the string or wire to the new cable and pull it through.

Pull or push easily so you don't loose the connection.

Not being under the dash right now I don't know the exact route of the
cable.

Ron Fraser

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Anybody know an easy way to replace a heater control valve cable? the old
one was cut off short under the dash so I can't use the old one to help
route a new one. Looking up in there it appears to be the first thing
installed then buried behind everything else under there. Also the control
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Hi Brent. B 
I just recently did this and found its not as hard as it seems. B 
The trick is to tape something stiff to the end of the cable. I think I used a 3/16" rod and gorilla taped it.
Put a light inside the engine compartment near the hole in the firewall. B 

When you get under the dash you can look through the hole on the inside of the car and see the light coming through the firewall hole.

Then thread the rod through aiming at the light. With a few minutes of fiddling I was able to get the rod through both holes.

You're home free then! Just pull the rod /cable through .

PS. If you're cable seems short make sure your using the right hole. I made this error and thought my cable was too short.

Good luck!B 




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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Brent Edinger <banana111@msn.com> </div><div>Date:12/12/2014  3:53 PM  (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: tigers@autox.team.net </div><div>Subject: [Tigers] Heater valve cable </div><div>
</div>Anybody know an easy way to replace a heater control valve cable?
the old one was cut off short under the dash so I can't use the old
one to help route a new one. Looking up in there it appears to be the first
thing installed then buried behind everything else under there.
Also the control lever also sends the cable off to the passenger side
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Any advice would be great.

       Thanks, Brent
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Just imagine how many other car facts and discriptions have been flawed over
the years..we know tigers,  but may not know specifics of other cars that
are auctioned on the show and we get some inaccurate facts and discriptions
of other marques that catch our interest.. oh well.  But remember if you say
it on line it MUST be true, Ha Ha!!  Clyde   P.S. Does any

one really care about a 2 horse power delta???  It's just the point I know.
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Today's Topics:

1. Facet Fuel  Pump Noise (Stu)
2. But wait, Theo and Darrell, it gets  better...  (snakebit289)


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Message:  1
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 21:26:29 -0500
From: Stu  <sabre2tgr@gmail.com>
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Subject: [Tigers]  Facet Fuel Pump Noise
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I just replaced my ancient Facet pump  with a new one (40104)  The old one
was quite noisy when dry or vapor  locked, but settled down to a gentle
clatter when actually pumping  fuel.  The new one is maybe a little noisier
when dry, but still makes  quite a clattering commotion when wet.  It is
bolted directly to sheet  metal, not rubber isolated or anything.  And once
the engine starts,  it is drowned out.  It seems to be pumping OK.

I'm just curious,  is this normal for the Facets of  today?

Stu


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Subject: [Tigers] But wait, Theo and Darrell,  it gets better...
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I prefer the fuel pump made by Airtex, nice and quite hum. Small round  
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Today's Topics:

1. Facet Fuel  Pump Noise (Stu)
2. But wait, Theo and Darrell, it gets  better...  (snakebit289)


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Message:  1
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 21:26:29 -0500
From: Stu  <sabre2tgr@gmail.com>
To: Tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers]  Facet Fuel Pump Noise
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I just replaced my ancient Facet pump with  a new one (40104)  The old one
was quite noisy when dry or vapor locked,  but settled down to a gentle
clatter when actually pumping fuel.  The  new one is maybe a little noisier
when dry, but still makes quite a  clattering commotion when wet.  It is
bolted directly to sheet metal,  not rubber isolated or anything.  And once
the engine starts, it is  drowned out.  It seems to be pumping OK.

I'm just curious, is this  normal for the Facets of  today?

Stu


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|  |
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I was looking around for Tom's site and found that it's down. Been that 
way for a while. Does anyone know if he is still selling parts?

Sandy
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does any have any 2D or 3D drawings of the tiger from the side, end, and top
view that they can share with me?

I have pictures, but it does really have the effect I need for this project.

If you have them you can send them to me direct at

tiger351w@comcast.net
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One bummer is that my dad had arranged with a famous artist who paints those cut-away drawings of cars to do a Tiger and use my dad's as the basis.  They were never able to set a time for the pictures.  I have no idea his name or contact info - though it might have been an Asian name.. If anyone knows the guy, let me know and I can try to get it going again.


------Original Message------
From: Rob Guerra
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Sent: Dec 16, 2014 8:00 PM

does any have any 2D or 3D drawings of the tiger from the side, end, and top
view that they can share with me?

I have pictures, but it does really have the effect I need for this project.

If you have them you can send them to me direct at

tiger351w@comcast.net
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From: Cullen McCann <cmccann1972@gmail.com>
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Hey Sandy, Ive emailed with him a couple of times a few weeks ago about
some T5 stuff. He mentioned that he is still installing parts and I think
he still has a very limited number of his T5 conversion kits. I get the
impression its a very small number. We didn't discuss any of his other
parts support. I know his is still dealing with customers on some level.

Cullen

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:53 PM, Sandy Ganz <sganz@pacbell.net> wrote:
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> I was looking around for Tom's site and found that it's down. Been that
> way for a while. Does anyone know if he is still selling parts?
>
> Sandy
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On 12/16/2014 7:53 PM, Sandy Ganz wrote:
> I was looking around for Tom's site and found that it's down. Been 
> that way for a while. Does anyone know if he is still selling parts?
>
> Sandy
Yes, I'm still here!  Our Website somehow fell through a crack when the 
host (?) switched hardware or something.  Rob's been working on it to 
get it back up, but he's very busy with his day job and I don't do websites.

-- 
Tom Hall
ModTiger Engineering LLC
5712 San Luis Ct.
Pleasanton, CA 94566
modtiger@comcast.net
www.tigerengineering.net
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Hello all,

I've had a lot of fun with it, but the day has finally come.  My Tiger,
B382000703LRXFE, is up for sale on eBay now:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/131382051708

Thanks for all of the assistance and advice over the last 13 years!

- John
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>From Facebook group and Classic & Sports Car:
RIP Brian Lister 1926-2014 | Classic and Sports Car

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I just want to say thank you. People on this list are among the most
incredible character and selflessness of any I have ever known. Recently
someone on the list, whom I've never met in person and who doesn't really
know me "from Adam", just randomly reached out to offer something to
me...because that person recalled my needs/ interests...and refusing to
take anything in return. Its just a rare thing these days to see... and it
gives me hope that there is still a chance for the goodness in the world to
prevail.

It was a small thing to you, but it meant a lot to me. Thank you.

Cullen
B382001452 LROFE
Alpine 260
TAC 840
Yukon, OK
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Cullen, et all:

I would also publicly like to thank you and all the others on this list who
have provided parts/assistance/feedback during the mini-restoration project
of my Tiger.  This is truly a great group to belong to; it kinda makes you
wonder if all the other British sports car makes have support groups as
close knit as this one!!!  If it weren't for you, Cullen, and a few others
out there who have been so forthcoming with bits and advice, I'd have really
found myself up a creek on multiple occasions.  The work on my car may be my
own, but if the car turns out to be as correct as I hope it will be, it'll
be not because of my work; it'll be directly as a result of the
knowledgeable and helpful individuals on this list who have kindly guided me
in the right direction.  

Thank you all so much for all your help over the years.  I hope each and
every one of you have a Merry Christmas and a wonderful 2015!!!!

Andy Walker
Edmond, OK
B382001600LRXFE
TAC #740

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Subject: [Tigers] thank you...

I just want to say thank you. People on this list are among the most
incredible character and selflessness of any I have ever known. Recently
someone on the list, whom I've never met in person and who doesn't really
know me "from Adam", just randomly reached out to offer something to
me...because that person recalled my needs/ interests...and refusing to take
anything in return. Its just a rare thing these days to see... and it gives
me hope that there is still a chance for the goodness in the world to
prevail.

It was a small thing to you, but it meant a lot to me. Thank you.

Cullen
B382001452 LROFE
Alpine 260
TAC 840
Yukon, OK
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Andy Walker wrote:
> Cullen, et all:
>
> I would also publicly like to thank you and all the others on this list who
> have provided parts/assistance/feedback during the mini-restoration project
> of my Tiger.  This is truly a great group to belong to; it kinda makes you
> wonder if all the other British sports car makes have support groups as
> close knit as this one!!!

http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo - some of the lists are busier than this, many not.
Just made a major change to the Healeys list that may show up here after Christmas. And
a LOT of folks over the decades have made good use of the archives that exist for these
lists. ( Link below )

When I see comments like this, it makes me feel good, validates the efforts I have put
into Team.Net over the years. I can't singlehandedly save every LBC out there, but in some
small way I can assist in saving some. There are folks on some of the lists that say that
without the support and advice and friendship of the Triumph or Morgan or Spridget list or
whatever, they would have given up long ago.

So I want to say Thank You folks, for making Team.Net what it is.

mjb.
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Something else to add.  Recently I got a check for $42.67 or some such amount for Team.Net.
It was from a subscriber to the datsun-roadster list. What had happened was someone on that list
had his printer die, he replaced it with a different model. He had some unopened ink cartridges
for it that he offered to give someone who needed them, just for the cost of shipping. A list
member took him up on it, and the amount of the check was what the "buyer" saved by getting free
ink rather than shopping at the office store. When such things happen, it always makes my heart glad.

Have a joyous season, one and all.

mjb.
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See #2!:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102289654

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What's the difference in the Tiger vs. Tiger GT structurally? It's it 
different trim and the convert top assembly removed? Looking to possibly 
remove the convert top and wonder how the GT was done to see if I could 
finish the inside up nice but less the convertible top.

Thanks

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I have an Alpine GT.  At sunbeamalpine.org you will find more than one thread going over differences. A number of the differences were ultimately incorporated into all Tigers.

The primary one is of course no top and the back of the rear shelf area does not have anything.  So the top of the shelf area goes back a other 8" or so.  There are then wide padded flat caps that cover the sides and a small narrow padded cap along the back edge.

The door insides were different. But these became standard on later Tigers. There were first wide tops that went along the inside top of the doors. The quarter windows had matching wider chrome at the topnof the door.  The panels had metal edges that ran the length of the edges that made larger panels to the edges of the doors. Thw doors themselves had little metal stands that helped mount the panels - since the panels did not go into the recessed portion of the door.

Alpine GTs also had wood dashes, wood steering wheels, wool carpets, and a cabin light at the rear view mirror.

Alpine GT Engines were a little detuned with quieter air cleaner intakes and a padded insulator mounted inside the bottom of the bonnet. 

And of course a factory hardtop that matched the car color. 


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-----Original Message-----
From: Sandy Ganz <sganz@pacbell.net>
To: tigers@autox.team.net<tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger GT

What's the difference in the Tiger vs. Tiger GT structurally? It's it 
different trim and the convert top assembly removed? Looking to possibly 
remove the convert top and wonder how the GT was done to see if I could 
finish the inside up nice but less the convertible top.

Thanks

Sandy
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The GT alpine and tiger also had a small structural difference in that it
had angle steel supports welded between the rear parcel shelf and the upper
rear valence to support the seat back and sides . interestingly where you
see sunbeams have hairline cracks where the rear valence panel joined the
wings and is filled I have never seen a GT stress there as the additional
bracing must add enough torsional stiffness to the body to stop it.
 On 25 Dec 2014 04:29, "Sandy Ganz" <sganz@pacbell.net> wrote:

> What's the difference in the Tiger vs. Tiger GT structurally? It's it
> different trim and the convert top assembly removed? Looking to possibly
> remove the convert top and wonder how the GT was done to see if I could
> finish the inside up nice but less the convertible top.
>
> Thanks
>
> Sandy
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Underthe heading of You Learn Something New Every Day, I was not aware 
that there were ever
any Tiger GT's built. By that I mean that I have never seen or heard of 
a Tiger with the configuration
behind the seats of an Alpine GT and without the convertible top. Please 
correct me if I am wrong.
If so, I would really like to see pictures of such a car. I know that at 
some point the Tigers began to
use some of the trim from the GT's such asthe door panels and the wood 
dashbut I thought that
was as far as it went. For how long were the Tiger GT's built? How were 
they identified in the serial
numbers?

Merry Christmas, everyone!

Thanks,

Tod
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IIRC there were about 15 documented Tiger GT's. They're all early mk1 models.
Cheers,
Theo


> On Dec 25, 2014, at 9:12 PM, Tod Brown via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
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>
> Underthe heading of You Learn Something New Every Day, I was not aware
> that there were ever
> any Tiger GT's built. By that I mean that I have never seen or heard of
> a Tiger with the configuration
> behind the seats of an Alpine GT and without the convertible top. Please
> correct me if I am wrong.
> If so, I would really like to see pictures of such a car. I know that at
> some point the Tigers began to
> use some of the trim from the GT's such asthe door panels and the wood
> dashbut I thought that
> was as far as it went. For how long were the Tiger GT's built? How were
> they identified in the serial
> numbers?
>
> Merry Christmas, everyone!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tod
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger GT
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Tod,B Below are two links. One to the STOC website article, the second to a
beautiful example with photos and a short description.The GTs are also
discussed in the
BON.B www.sunbeamtiger.co.uk/Galleries/Classfieds/Forum/GT_Tiger.pdfB http://
www.exoticclassics.com/1964-sunbeam-gt-tiger--c-305.htmB Merry
Christmas,BrianB Brian Glenn
P.O. Box 578
Julian, CA 92036-0578
714.345.9883

B9470208LRXFE GT
B9471101LRXFE
B9472615LRXFE
B382000846LRXFE
B382001212LRXFE

     On Thursday, December 25, 2014 9:02 PM, THEO SMIT via Tigers
<tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:


 IIRC there were about 15 documented Tiger GT's. They're all early mk1
models.
Cheers,
Theo


> On Dec 25, 2014, at 9:12 PM, Tod Brown via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
wrote:
>
> Underthe heading of You Learn Something New Every Day, I was not aware
> that there were ever
> any Tiger GT's built. By that I mean that I have never seen or heard of
> a Tiger with the configuration
> behind the seats of an Alpine GT and without the convertible top. Please
> correct me if I am wrong.
> If so, I would really like to see pictures of such a car. I know that at
> some point the Tigers began to
> use some of the trim from the GT's such asthe door panels and the wood
> dashbut I thought that
> was as far as it went. For how long were the Tiger GT's built? How were
> they identified in the serial
> numbers?
>
> Merry Christmas, everyone!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tod
> B382002384LRXFE
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>
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Hello Tiger fans, are there any TAC inspectors in Colorado?  

Thanks,


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Hey, guys:

 

I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas!!!

 

I've got a question concerning the oil pressure line from the block to the
gauge in the Tiger.  I've seen several renditions of this line in Tigers and
am a little confused as to what the original line looks like.  My car had a
white plastic line when I took it apart for restoration earlier this year
but I'm pretty certain that was not the correct line.  Can anyone advise me
on what the correct line is and what it looks like?

 

I've noticed in the Sunbeam Specialties catalog that they list a "flexible
oil gauge line, all (stock type)."  Has anybody bought one from SS and, if
so, was it the stock style?

 

Many thanks and I hope everyone has a safe New Year's celebration,

Andy Walker

Edmond, OK
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Andy, B9471784 has /had a solid black plastic line...I can check the diameter
but it's a little larger in diameter than the white nylon lines I'm used to
seeing in contemporary aftermarket gauge installations. I'm guessing 3/16"
versus the white nylon that seems close to 1/8"

Not 100% sure it's correct but it appeared oem.

Cullen
B382001452 LROFE, TAC 840
B9471784 LRXFE



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> On Dec 28, 2014, at 10:21 PM, Andy Walker via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
wrote:
>
> Hey, guys:
>
>
>
> I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas!!!
>
>
>
> I've got a question concerning the oil pressure line from the block to the
> gauge in the Tiger.  I've seen several renditions of this line in Tigers
and
> am a little confused as to what the original line looks like.  My car had a
> white plastic line when I took it apart for restoration earlier this year
> but I'm pretty certain that was not the correct line.  Can anyone advise me
> on what the correct line is and what it looks like?
>
>
>
> I've noticed in the Sunbeam Specialties catalog that they list a "flexible
> oil gauge line, all (stock type)."  Has anybody bought one from SS and, if
> so, was it the stock style?
>
>
>
> Many thanks and I hope everyone has a safe New Year's celebration,
>
> Andy Walker
>
> Edmond, OK
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Andy, 
I had a new (replacement) plastic line fail within the first 2  hours of 
use.  I would highly recommend a stainless replacement line. May  not look 
like the original, but a whole lot safer. If the plastic one pulls off  the 
barbed end as mine did, you are effectively stranded unless you have a  
replacement or a plug for the engine.  Mark L
 
 
In a message dated 12/29/2014 9:32:06 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
tigers@autox.team.net writes:

Andy,  B9471784 has /had a solid black plastic line...I can check the 
diameter
but  it's a little larger in diameter than the white nylon lines I'm used  
to
seeing in contemporary aftermarket gauge installations. I'm guessing  3/16"
versus the white nylon that seems close to 1/8"

Not 100% sure  it's correct but it appeared oem.

Cullen
B382001452 LROFE, TAC  840
B9471784 LRXFE



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> On Dec  28, 2014, at 10:21 PM, Andy Walker via Tigers  
<tigers@autox.team.net>
wrote:
>
> Hey,  guys:
>
>
>
> I hope everyone had a Merry  Christmas!!!
>
>
>
> I've got a question concerning  the oil pressure line from the block to 
the
> gauge in the Tiger.   I've seen several renditions of this line in Tigers
and
> am a little  confused as to what the original line looks like.  My car 
had a
>  white plastic line when I took it apart for restoration earlier this  
year
> but I'm pretty certain that was not the correct line.  Can  anyone advise 
me
> on what the correct line is and what it looks  like?
>
>
>
> I've noticed in the Sunbeam Specialties  catalog that they list a 
"flexible
> oil gauge line, all (stock  type)."  Has anybody bought one from SS and, 
if
> so, was it the  stock style?
>
>
>
> Many thanks and I hope everyone  has a safe New Year's celebration,
>
> Andy Walker
>
>  Edmond, OK
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Cullen's description matches what B9470622 had also.
During my first clutch job in 1973, it snapped in a
few pieces, it was very brittle...
Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: Cullen McCann via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
To: Andy Walker <awtiger@cox.net>
Cc: <tigers@autox.team.net> <tigers@autox.team.net>
Sent: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 10:55:41 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Oil pressure line question

Andy, B9471784 has /had a solid black plastic line...I can check the diameter
but it's a little larger in diameter than the white nylon lines I'm used to
seeing in contemporary aftermarket gauge installations. I'm guessing 3/16"
versus the white nylon that seems close to 1/8"

Not 100% sure it's correct but it appeared oem.

Cullen
B382001452 LROFE, TAC 840
B9471784 LRXFE



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> On Dec 28, 2014, at 10:21 PM, Andy Walker via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
wrote:
>
> Hey, guys:
>
>
>
> I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas!!!
>
>
>
> I've got a question concerning the oil pressure line from the block to the
> gauge in the Tiger.  I've seen several renditions of this line in Tigers
and
> am a little confused as to what the original line looks like.  My car had a
> white plastic line when I took it apart for restoration earlier this year
> but I'm pretty certain that was not the correct line.  Can anyone advise me
> on what the correct line is and what it looks like?
>
>
>
> I've noticed in the Sunbeam Specialties catalog that they list a "flexible
> oil gauge line, all (stock type)."  Has anybody bought one from SS and, if
> so, was it the stock style?
>
>
>
> Many thanks and I hope everyone has a safe New Year's celebration,
>
> Andy Walker
>
> Edmond, OK
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
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Me too. Chucked that brittle tube and replaced it with a braided steel line.
No more worries about that!

Dave

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I bought one from Rick in 1995, his number DI 53, and it's a white nylon line with brass fittings. I originally got my car (IA #48) with no motor or oil pressure gauge line.
Rande Bellman
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I replaced the oil line on my Mk 1A many years back, the '90's probably
like Rande.  The original black plastic line shattered into a bunch of
pieces as I removed it.

My replacement was a whitish nylon or plastic line, with fittings like
Rande described, so it probably came from SS, too.

The metal braid lines, which if I understand correctly, are a metal braided
sheath over a rubbery or plastic inner tube.  IIRC only CAT had these back
in the day.  Are they available anywhere else now?

Stu
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i don't think it needs to be anything special for fitment unless you want
originality.  the block has a normal NPT thread as does the 'extension'
piece.  there are plenty of british to AN adapters for the gauge end, so
any length of braided -4 AN hose works fine.  brass fittings look
reasonably period correct.  I've done a few british style oil pressure
gauges this way as I also prefer the braided lines for durability
(especially with higher oil pressures).  pretty sure you can get everything
from summit.

On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Stu via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
wrote:

> I replaced the oil line on my Mk 1A many years back, the '90's probably
> like Rande.  The original black plastic line shattered into a bunch of
> pieces as I removed it.
>
> My replacement was a whitish nylon or plastic line, with fittings like
> Rande described, so it probably came from SS, too.
>
> The metal braid lines, which if I understand correctly, are a metal braided
> sheath over a rubbery or plastic inner tube.  IIRC only CAT had these back
> in the day.  Are they available anywhere else now?
>
> Stu
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Stu and Rande,
The white one from SS is the one that came apart on me (at the engine  
connection).  It shot oil but nothing smoked until I slowed down and was  
idling.  By that time I had lost 3 qts. I remember scanning the gauges  about 15 
minutes before and all was okay. So doesn't take long to pump out a  quart of 
oil.  I ended up having to come home on a flat bed.......the only  time the 
Tiger didn't drive herself home in 20+ years.
So that my experience with  a plastic one from SS....less than 2 hours  old 
and pulled off the barb.  Went directly to a stainless version from  CAT.
Mark L
 
 
In a message dated 12/29/2014 1:36:49 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
tigers@autox.team.net writes:

I  replaced the oil line on my Mk 1A many years back, the '90's probably
like  Rande.  The original black plastic line shattered into a bunch  of
pieces as I removed it.

My replacement was a whitish nylon or  plastic line, with fittings like
Rande described, so it probably came from  SS, too.

The metal braid lines, which if I understand correctly, are a  metal braided
sheath over a rubbery or plastic inner tube.  IIRC only  CAT had these back
in the day.  Are they available anywhere else  now?

Stu
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Yes call dale. I think he sells them

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> On Dec 29, 2014, at 11:34 AM, Stu via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I replaced the oil line on my Mk 1A many years back, the '90's probably
> like Rande.  The original black plastic line shattered into a bunch of
> pieces as I removed it.
> 
> My replacement was a whitish nylon or plastic line, with fittings like
> Rande described, so it probably came from SS, too.
> 
> The metal braid lines, which if I understand correctly, are a metal braided
> sheath over a rubbery or plastic inner tube.  IIRC only CAT had these back
> in the day.  Are they available anywhere else now?
> 
> Stu
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The gauge end is a little different so make sure you get the right piece. I
had to order mine from a specialty race company that sold the proper piece
Lynn

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> On Dec 29, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
wrote:
>
> i don't think it needs to be anything special for fitment unless you want
> originality.  the block has a normal NPT thread as does the 'extension'
> piece.  there are plenty of british to AN adapters for the gauge end, so
> any length of braided -4 AN hose works fine.  brass fittings look
> reasonably period correct.  I've done a few british style oil pressure
> gauges this way as I also prefer the braided lines for durability
> (especially with higher oil pressures).  pretty sure you can get everything
> from summit.
>
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Stu via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I replaced the oil line on my Mk 1A many years back, the '90's probably
>> like Rande.  The original black plastic line shattered into a bunch of
>> pieces as I removed it.
>>
>> My replacement was a whitish nylon or plastic line, with fittings like
>> Rande described, so it probably came from SS, too.
>>
>> The metal braid lines, which if I understand correctly, are a metal
braided
>> sheath over a rubbery or plastic inner tube.  IIRC only CAT had these back
>> in the day.  Are they available anywhere else now?
>>
>> Stu
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Oil Pressure Line
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CAT currently lists the steel braid oil pressure line as item E05 for
$36.B Brian Glenn
P.O. Box 578
Julian, CA 92036-0578
714.345.9883

B9470208LRXFE GT
B9471101LRXFE
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     On Monday, December 29, 2014 12:01 PM, Cars via Tigers
<tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:


 The gauge end is a little different so make sure you get the right piece. I
had to order mine from a specialty race company that sold the proper piece
Lynn

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> On Dec 29, 2014, at 11:43 AM, Owain Lloyd via Tigers
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>
> i don't think it needs to be anything special for fitment unless you want
> originality.B  the block has a normal NPT thread as does the 'extension'
> piece.B  there are plenty of british to AN adapters for the gauge end, so
> any length of braided -4 AN hose works fine.B  brass fittings look
> reasonably period correct.B  I've done a few british style oil pressure
> gauges this way as I also prefer the braided lines for durability
> (especially with higher oil pressures).B  pretty sure you can get
everything
> from summit.
>
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Stu via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I replaced the oil line on my Mk 1A many years back, the '90's probably
>> like Rande.B  The original black plastic line shattered into a bunch of
>> pieces as I removed it.
>>
>> My replacement was a whitish nylon or plastic line, with fittings like
>> Rande described, so it probably came from SS, too.
>>
>> The metal braid lines, which if I understand correctly, are a metal
braided
>> sheath over a rubbery or plastic inner tube.B  IIRC only CAT had these
back
>> in the day.B  Are they available anywhere else now?
>>
>> Stu
>> _______________________________________________
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If y'all are installing a new nylon oil pressure line, I don't need to tell you to route it away from headers and exhaust manifolds. Some dudes have limped to their destinations after the line melted and opened up. Some dudes have routed them along the top of the valve covers, using the bolts along the top from the VC's to hold down the nylon line retainers (sold separately)
Rande Bellman
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That's the way them Brit Dudes did it
originally!


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> If y'all are installing a new nylon oil pressure line, I don't need to tell
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top from the VC's to hold down the nylon line retainers (sold separately)
> Rande Bellman
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I've had a CAT braided line in my Tiger for almost 20 years now.
PURRFECT!!
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: Jere Teepen <jteepen@usatoday.com>
To: Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net>, snakebit289 <snakebit289@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 00:52:28 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: RE: [Tigers] Tiger oil pressure gauge line - suggestion

Everyone:

CAT does sell the braided lines with all of the correct fittings.  One stop shopping.

Happy New Year.

Jere

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 12:50 PM
To: snakebit289
Cc: Tiger List
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger oil pressure gauge line - suggestion

That's the way them Brit Dudes did it
originally!


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> On Dec 29, 2014, at 12:34 PM, snakebit289 via Tigers 
> <tigers@autox.team.net>
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>
> If y'all are installing a new nylon oil pressure line, I don't need to 
> tell
you to route it away from headers and exhaust manifolds. Some dudes have limped to their destinations after the line melted and opened up. Some dudes have routed them along the top of the valve covers, using the bolts along the top from the VC's to hold down the nylon line retainers (sold separately)
> Rande Bellman
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Andy I bought the oem one rick sells within the past 6 months. I was black plastic and looks like the original one that I removed.B 


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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Andy Walker via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> </div><div>Date:12/28/2014  11:21 PM  (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: tigers@autox.team.net </div><div>Subject: [Tigers] Oil pressure line question </div><div>
</div>Hey, guys:



I hope everyone had a Merry Christmas!!!



I've got a question concerning the oil pressure line from the block to the
gauge in the Tiger.  I've seen several renditions of this line in Tigers and
am a little confused as to what the original line looks like.  My car had a
white plastic line when I took it apart for restoration earlier this year
but I'm pretty certain that was not the correct line.  Can anyone advise me
on what the correct line is and what it looks like?



I've noticed in the Sunbeam Specialties catalog that they list a "flexible
oil gauge line, all (stock type)."  Has anybody bought one from SS and, if
so, was it the stock style?



Many thanks and I hope everyone has a safe New Year's celebration,

Andy Walker

Edmond, OK
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My black oil gauge line broke on the car when I bumped it with a  wrench. 
Line was really brittle after 100,000 miles and 25 years old.  I  purchased a 
replacement white oil line kit from Sunbeam Specialties years ago  and it 
had compression fitting on the plastic line not slip on fittings.  Don't 
laugh, but I used  a box of black RITZ (sp ?) Dye and mixed it  in a quart fruit 
jar of water and placed the line in the dye and dyed the  plastic oil line 
black. I had both ends of the plastic line sealed and left it  in the dye 
for several weeks during the winter time and I placed the fruit  jar of dye on 
the gas furnace near the chimney so every time the furnace  came on it 
would heat up the dye.  I don't know if they sell the same  plastic line or not 
but the line is still dark black.
John Watertor
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Interesting ad.

Seller states it's a clone. Definitely convincing at first glance. Says
"registered" as a tiger. Watch out for this one.

Cullen

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/4825601540.html
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Vin rivets look pretty original.

Too bad the VIN says the car should be a round corner car and the donor was a Series V square corner car.

Another update in the Tiger Registry required.

Erich


---- Cullen McCann via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: 
> Interesting ad.
> 
> Seller states it's a clone. Definitely convincing at first glance. Says
> "registered" as a tiger. Watch out for this one.
> 
> Cullen
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> http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/cto/4825601540.html
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that's a neat Idea John, I remember using some "RIT" dye to tint a clear
plastic canopy on a model airplane many years ago... worked then too!

On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 8:01 PM, H2Otor--- via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net
> wrote:

> My black oil gauge line broke on the car when I bumped it with a  wrench.
> Line was really brittle after 100,000 miles and 25 years old.  I
> purchased a
> replacement white oil line kit from Sunbeam Specialties years ago  and it
> had compression fitting on the plastic line not slip on fittings.  Don't
> laugh, but I used  a box of black RITZ (sp ?) Dye and mixed it  in a quart
> fruit
> jar of water and placed the line in the dye and dyed the  plastic oil line
> black. I had both ends of the plastic line sealed and left it  in the dye
> for several weeks during the winter time and I placed the fruit  jar of
> dye on
> the gas furnace near the chimney so every time the furnace  came on it
> would heat up the dye.  I don't know if they sell the same  plastic line
> or not
> but the line is still dark black.
> John Watertor
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Hey, everyone:

First, I'd like to wish everyone a safe and happy New Year's celebration tonight.  As a friend of mine says, "Remember...New Year's Eve is amateur night, so be careful out there!!!"  

Secondly, I am in need of a few bits and pieces as I progress with my engine compartment restoration of B382001600LRXFE:

Heater hose strap/clamp (the one that holds the driver's side heater hose up close to the firewall...mine is missing)

Wire loom clips ("U-shaped" pieces that clip to both inner fenders - I need 3 of them since my car only had one present)

Double-headed ground lugs (fasten underneath the front rubber hood bumpers - sort of "ram's head" shaped - need 2)

Brake line brackets/clips (hold the brake line up to the firewall as it goes from the master cylinder to the booster - need 2)

Okay...I realize Christmas is over and that this sounds more like a wish list for Santa...but since Santa drives something other than a Tiger, I figured I'd have better luck with you guys!!!!  Anyway, I've definitely got a home for any or all of this stuff, so please let me know if you've got any spares laying around and how much you might want for them.  

As usual, thanks much for any assistance,
Andy Walker
Edmond, OK
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