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Hi,

It appears that you can no longer get a red interior from any of the normal
sources, so I am looking at having a local upholstery shop copy my old
panels. Can anyone send me some photos of the kick panels and the pieces
that cover the rear wheel wells? Specifically for a Mk1A? Those pieces on my
car are too far gone to make copies from.

Also, does anybody have a photo of a red interior with black piping? I would
like to see what that looks like.

 

Thanks,

Joe Brown

Arlington, TX

B382000217
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Double-headed ground lugs (fasten underneath the front rubber hood bumpers  
- sort of "ram's head" shaped - need 2).   They are listed in   "XK's 
UNLIMITED "( Jaguar parts catalog) item #08-990 ground clip.




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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 15:10:04 -0500
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Subject: [Tigers]  Tiger bits needed

Hey, everyone:

First, I'd like to wish  everyone a safe and happy New Year's celebration 
tonight.  As a friend of  mine says, "Remember...New Year's Eve is amateur 
night, so be careful out  there!!!"  

Secondly, I am in need of a few bits and pieces as I  progress with my 
engine compartment restoration of  B382001600LRXFE:

Heater hose strap/clamp (the one that holds the  driver's side heater hose 
up close to the firewall...mine is  missing)

Wire loom clips ("U-shaped" pieces that clip to both inner  fenders - I 
need 3 of them since my car only had one  present)

Double-headed ground lugs (fasten underneath the front rubber  hood bumpers 
- sort of "ram's head" shaped - need 2)

Brake line  brackets/clips (hold the brake line up to the firewall as it 
goes from the  master cylinder to the booster - need 2)

Okay...I realize Christmas is  over and that this sounds more like a wish 
list for Santa...but since Santa  drives something other than a Tiger, I 
figured I'd have better luck with you  guys!!!!  Anyway, I've definitely got a 
home for any or all of this  stuff, so please let me know if you've got any 
spares laying around and how  much you might want for them.  

As usual, thanks much for any  assistance,
Andy Walker
Edmond,  OK


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About red interior pieces, maybe you've done this already, but have you contacted Martha Christiansen at ProPrep?
(775)833-2424 Incline Village, NV (Lake Tahoe) and on Facebook.

Rande
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I checked my loose parts drawers last night, and could not find spare H/L wiring clips or the H/L ground terminal that affixes to the bottom of the hood bumpers.
The tip about shopping at xks.com (Old Jaguar parts source near San Luis Obispo airport) is a good one for the ground piece(their number 08-990).Also I checked mossmotors.com ( in Goleta/Santa Barbara) and found one part under wiring harness for Austin Healey 100-3000 (item #56), and the other with Triumph 2-3-4 again under wiring harness (item #71). Particularly for the H/L wiring holder, see if it matches what you already have.
Rande Bellman

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You can find the part at:
http://www.britishwiring.com/Stainless-Steel-Grounding-Clip-p/c990.htm

Wayne

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Double-headed ground lugs (fasten underneath the front rubber hood bumpers  
- sort of "ram's head" shaped - need 2).   They are listed in   "XK's 
UNLIMITED "( Jaguar parts catalog) item #08-990 ground clip.




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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 15:10:04 -0500
From:  <awtiger@cox.net>
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers]  Tiger bits needed

Hey, everyone:

First, I'd like to wish  everyone a safe and happy New Year's celebration
tonight.  As a friend of  mine says, "Remember...New Year's Eve is amateur
night, so be careful out  there!!!"  

Secondly, I am in need of a few bits and pieces as I  progress with my
engine compartment restoration of  B382001600LRXFE:

Heater hose strap/clamp (the one that holds the  driver's side heater hose
up close to the firewall...mine is  missing)

Wire loom clips ("U-shaped" pieces that clip to both inner  fenders - I need
3 of them since my car only had one  present)

Double-headed ground lugs (fasten underneath the front rubber  hood bumpers
- sort of "ram's head" shaped - need 2)

Brake line  brackets/clips (hold the brake line up to the firewall as it
goes from the  master cylinder to the booster - need 2)

Okay...I realize Christmas is  over and that this sounds more like a wish
list for Santa...but since Santa  drives something other than a Tiger, I
figured I'd have better luck with you  guys!!!!  Anyway, I've definitely got
a home for any or all of this  stuff, so please let me know if you've got
any spares laying around and how  much you might want for them.  

As usual, thanks much for any  assistance, Andy Walker Edmond,  OK


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Hi Cullen,
Personal parts and cars are ok, within reason, but not the offering of
commercial services or parts sales.
Happy new year to all!
Among other things I just pulled the trigger on a Ford crate motor... Much
excitement awaits.

Cheers,
Theo



> On Jan 3, 2015, at 12:13 PM, Cullen McCann via Tigers
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>
> Guys, remind me if its appropriate to advertise/notify the list of
> personal cars for sale? I don't want to do that if its not cool. Some lists
> don't allow/ prefer that. I see people do that occasionally...but I wanted
> to check first.
>
> Cullen
> Yukon, OK
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Martha I'm pretty sure is now retired. Maybe one of you guys can talk her
out of it, but I couldn't. Good Luck.
   Jeff

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> About red interior pieces, maybe you've done this already, but have you
> contacted Martha Christiansen at ProPrep?
> (775)833-2424 Incline Village, NV (Lake Tahoe) and on Facebook.
>
> Rande
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Although you may be posting the car or parts of my dreams, unless it's 
Tiger related, I would much prefer not to see it here.

My dos centavos....

B382000331


On 1/3/2015 5:21 PM, THEO SMIT via Tigers wrote:
> Hi Cullen,
> Personal parts and cars are ok, within reason, but not the offering of
> commercial services or parts sales.
> Happy new year to all!
> Among other things I just pulled the trigger on a Ford crate motor... Much
> excitement awaits.
>
> Cheers,
> Theo
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Oh... Yes good point. It is a tiger. I will be selling a tiger soon. Details
forthcoming. Wanted to get a notice to the inner circle before it goes
"public".

Stay tuned. Might be a few days.

Thank you. Cullen.

Sent from my iPhone

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> Although you may be posting the car or parts of my dreams, unless it's Tiger
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> My dos centavos....
>
> B382000331
>
>
>> On 1/3/2015 5:21 PM, THEO SMIT via Tigers wrote:
>> Hi Cullen,
>> Personal parts and cars are ok, within reason, but not the offering of
>> commercial services or parts sales.
>> Happy new year to all!
>> Among other things I just pulled the trigger on a Ford crate motor... Much
>> excitement awaits.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Theo
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 Issue 4 - Rapier on Portland  Craigslist
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I live in the Portland area and could have a closer look at the car with
some additional photos, if anyone on the list is seriously interested in it.

Doug Babcock
Senior TAC Inspector
3 Tigers and 2 Alpines

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2015 13:42:10 -0800
From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf@mayfco.com>
To: "Tiger List" <tigers@autox.team.net>, "Alpines"
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Subject: [Tigers] Sunbeam Rapier on Craig's List

All usual disclaimers apply. Just bringing the Craigbs list ad to yabll in
case one of you might be interested.



mayf



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Thanks for all the GT info and pics. I'm embarking on getting my Tiger 'race ready' but want to have it still have some semblance of a street car (you know sleeper looking). 

Still debating on removing the top mechanism and things like that. Will need to get into it a bit more to see all the sheet metal.

Rear end came out last night, so I'm on my way! Looks like lots of bad welding from the usual cracked traction masters. They got to go...

Have a scale and will also weight the removed parts for fun. The initial plan is to remove the D44 and swap with a 9". Hoping to shed some lbs in the process.

Will get some pics going as soon ;)

Sandy
 

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What's the difference in the Tiger vs. Tiger GT structurally? It's it 
different trim and the convert top assembly removed? Looking to possibly 
remove the convert top and wonder how the GT was done to see if I could 
finish the inside up nice but less the convertible top.

Thanks

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Subject: [Tigers] Tiger for sale - B9471784 LRXFE
From: Cullen McCann via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
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Guys,

Per the email I sent a couple days ago, I have a parts car/project that I
am selling. Nobody seemed to mind me stating this here. I wanted to "keep
it in the family" by telling everyone here first, and the CAT forum
shortly.... if there are no takers, I'll probably put it on eBay, but I'd
like to avoid that.

The Tiger is B9471784 LRXFE. When I bought the car it was 99% complete, not
driving. It had been stored for apparently decades, up north..Indiana and
Ohio area. It had a 5 bolt HiPo 289 under the hood, which has been sold. I
purchased the car for the sole purpose of acquiring some critical pieces
that were missing from my keeper-tiger/ Alpine 260.

You can find pics of the car at the link below. I didn't want this open to
the ENTIRE public so please access the folders with the
password "sunbeampals"

http://s1260.photobucket.com/user/Alpine260/library/Performance%20Cars/B9471784%20LRXFE


Here is a link to pics of the car before disassembly for reference only.
same password.

http://s1260.photobucket.com/user/Alpine260/library/Performance%20Cars/B9471784%20LRXFE/B9471784%20Before%20Disassembly

let me know if you have any trouble with the links.

The car has significant rust issues. Ironically the floor boards, under
hood inner fenders are intact and in decent shape, as well as the trunk
pan, but the rockers, lower quarters and x-frame are in rough shape. The
exterior sheet metal is in (oddly) good condition and is very straight
except for a dent on the driver B-pillar. There are no signs of collision
on the car whatsoever. The car's original vin plate, spec plate and JAL
are preserved with their original fasteners and the car has a clear titled
in my name. All the chassis and drivetrain components have been submitted
to Mr. Miller for his records, and were verified consistent with the
ledgers, except for the engine. The original 260 is MIA. The car had some
modifications suggestive of racing or at least some vintage hot rodding
judging by its configuration. Hipo 289 with Shelby bits installed, headers,
holley, rear sway bar, hurst shifter, performance clutch, 3.31 posi
etc. none of these parts are included in the sale of the car.

I disassembled the car down to basically a shell. Here is a brief
description of whats available, use the photos to understand. I am keeping
everything not listed or shown here for my own build or spares. As I
mentioned the motor is gone via ebay. Transmission, 3.31 posi, all
the interior components are no longer available. no latches for the panels.

- Round corner body on a pallet (rolling with small swivel casters) with
all is original sheet metal and panels still on the hinges. In color code
86, original green paint. trunk lid, hood with louvers, doors WITHOUT
regulators and glass, windshield frame WITHOUT glass. no lenses, bezels etc
are included.

- Again, no wheels, tires, interior, drivetrain, electrical
components, dash or accessories are included. no handles or latches, no
hardware. Limited trim is included, only what was not convenient to remove.
Partial side trim. Shown in the photos but not included is the rootes qtr
badges.

I am asking 6500.00 obo. The car is in Yukon, OK, just outside Oklahoma
City. The car will need to be picked up here or I can help load. it will
NOT roll on its own suspension so I suggest enclosed transport. It would
roll up on a enclosed car hauler very easily on its casters.

*************************

These parts can be purchased included with the car if the price is right,
but I otherwise intend to sell them separately:

- rear axle housing, correct for the car, WITHOUT its gears, differential
carrier or axles. Its not installed, was removed to be sold
separately, springs were rusted beyond use, and cut with a torch. (bolts
were seized and couldn't not be freed)  axle housing as surface pitting but
is sold and components move freely. housing, panhard bar and rear brakes
backing plates - 300.00

- Hardtop with some rust in lower B-pillars, sizable dent on upper right
rear corner. side windows are included with some pitted hardware, no trim.
300.00

- metal boot cover, in all 3 pieces in excellent condition, no rust or
dents 300.00 (not shown in photos, will add soon)

- A full loaded series V alpine front crossmember is available upon
request. If the rear axle housing is purchased with the car, the alpine
front crossmember would complete the major suspension components if
desired. 300.00

OR the ENTIRE deal can be bought for 7,000.00.

Please email me here if you are interested. Thank you!!!

Cullen McCann
Yukon, OK
B382001452 LROFE Alpine 260, TAC 840
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All, to respond to a few questions that have come over...related to "bottom
dollar" and other parts questions.. I'm considering best offers over 5
grand.

Also, no engine parts are available, no interior, dash or steering parts.
The front bumper does go with the car, and the trim around the grill
surround. the front and rear suspension are part of the negotiation terms.

Thank you!! Cullen
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Listers,

When I bought my Tiger, one of the items that came in a box of parts was a
battery vent.  It consists of a long tube with six old fashion battery caps
that screw on the battery.  I have never seen a Tiger with one of these
installed.  Does anyone out there know which Tigers had these vents and how
many vehicles had them?  I have never seen one for sale and wonder what they
are worth as I am going to sell mine because I will never use it.  

 

Tom Kukla

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My fairly late Mk1A has the vent hose, but that's all.  One of the previous
owners must have cut off the cap arrangement when swapping batteries.

Stu

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wrote:

> Listers,
>
> When I bought my Tiger, one of the items that came in a box of parts was a
> battery vent.  It consists of a long tube with six old fashion battery caps
> that screw on the battery.  I have never seen a Tiger with one of these
> installed.  Does anyone out there know which Tigers had these vents and how
> many vehicles had them?  I have never seen one for sale and wonder what
> they
> are worth as I am going to sell mine because I will never use it.
>
>
>
> Tom Kukla
>
> tlkukla@comcast.net
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My early Mk 1 had the same thing in a box. It won't work on a new battery, but
I'm saving it because it's original to the car.

Steve


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<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Tom Kukla via Tigers
<tigers@autox.team.net> </div><div>Date:01/09/2015  6:55 PM  (GMT-08:00)
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Listers,

When I bought my Tiger, one of the items that came in a box of parts was a
battery vent.  It consists of a long tube with six old fashion battery caps
that screw on the battery.  I have never seen a Tiger with one of these
installed.  Does anyone out there know which Tigers had these vents and how
many vehicles had them?  I have never seen one for sale and wonder what they
are worth as I am going to sell mine because I will never use it.



Tom Kukla

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Hi Tom:

I believe all the Tigers had the tube unless there were a few at the 
start of the run
that didn't. I know that mine had one and I am pretty late in the MkIA 
line (2384).
Probably most of them were taken off when batteries no longer had vents 
and put
in a box like yours. Back in the day, of course, you had to 
periodicallytop up the
battery cells with water as it was consumed in the operation of the 
battery which
was the reason for the removable caps on the battery.

Cheers,

Tod
B382002384LRXFE
TAC864
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I bought my MK 2 new, and it has the vent system. New batteries do not need to
worry about topping off the water nor do they have an overflow system, so
these are not needed.B 
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The parts list says that these battery vents were fitted to all Mk 1 and 1A cars. The Mk 11s had something different
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Anyone else on the Tiger List notice that "Reply to All" does not work on
List messages?
 
Maybe its just my computer
 
Ron Fraser
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Hi Ron,
I'm replying to all here from my iPhone...  You are in the To: field and the
list address is in the CC: field.

Theo



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> Anyone else on the Tiger List notice that "Reply to All" does not work on
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> Maybe its just my computer
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> Ron Fraser
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I can't speak to the battery vents, but the vent hole was in the boot floor
on my Mark 2 when I bought it ('most everything between the hole and the
frame member was gone 'cause the prior tipped the battery over and never
cleaned the spill.

Tom
'67 Mark 2.

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> The parts list says that these battery vents were fitted to all Mk 1 and
> 1A cars. The Mk 11s had something different
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Theo
	Reply to all work on your message OK.

Sometime mid-December my Reply to all stopped pulling up the List address -
strange.

Ron

-----Original Message-----
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Hi Ron,
I'm replying to all here from my iPhone...  You are in the To: field and the
list address is in the CC: field.

Theo



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Hey, guys:

Okay...all the work I've done over the last year is about to (hopefully) come to a conclusion.  It looks like the motor will go back in my car within a week or two!!!!  I still have one question, however, and hopefully you guys can shed a bit of light on this for me.  I've never owned a Tiger with the factory oil filter hose set up on it so I'm a bit in the dark when it comes to that subject.  My question is this...can the hoses and the side block fittings be installed on the motor with the motor in place in the car?  My guess is that they probably can, but I don't want to install the motor without the hoses, only to find that I've got to take it all lose again and jack it around in order to get the hoses on.  Can someone address this for me?

Thanks very much,
Andy Walker
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Yes Andy you can install it with the motor in, it's easier also. I took my
own off and went to a 90 degree ford racing set up because there is no way
to change the filter without making a mess using the original not to
mention they leak. But you need stock have at it.  my .02 cents
   Jeff

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> Hey, guys:
>
> Okay...all the work I've done over the last year is about to (hopefully)
> come to a conclusion.  It looks like the motor will go back in my car
> within a week or two!!!!  I still have one question, however, and hopefully
> you guys can shed a bit of light on this for me.  I've never owned a Tiger
> with the factory oil filter hose set up on it so I'm a bit in the dark when
> it comes to that subject.  My question is this...can the hoses and the side
> block fittings be installed on the motor with the motor in place in the
> car?  My guess is that they probably can, but I don't want to install the
> motor without the hoses, only to find that I've got to take it all lose
> again and jack it around in order to get the hoses on.  Can someone address
> this for me?
>
> Thanks very much,
> Andy Walker
> Edmond, OK
> B382001600LRXFE
> TAC #740
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Don't sell them...

Peel the label off your battery top, cut the threads off the bottoms of the
battery caps and epoxy them to your battery.

I no longer have a Tiger, but I am doing that on my Plymouth with a set of
caps I picked on eBay real cheap.

Paul

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>
> Listers,
>
> When I bought my Tiger, one of the items that came in a box of parts was a
> battery vent.  It consists of a long tube with six old fashion battery caps
> that screw on the battery.  I have never seen a Tiger with one of these
> installed.  Does anyone out there know which Tigers had these vents and how
> many vehicles had them?  I have never seen one for sale and wonder what
they
> are worth as I am going to sell mine because I will never use it.
>
>
>
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Andy
	It has been a very long time since I worked with the stock oil
hoses.

I believe you should loosely attach the oil fittings on the block 1st.
The hoses can be attached after the engine is in place.
Tighten all fittings once everything is in place with no interference.

Ron Fraser

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Subject: [Tigers] Factory oil filter hoses


Hey, guys:

Okay...all the work I've done over the last year is about to (hopefully)
come to a conclusion.  It looks like the motor will go back in my car within
a week or two!!!!  I still have one question, however, and hopefully you
guys can shed a bit of light on this for me.  I've never owned a Tiger with
the factory oil filter hose set up on it so I'm a bit in the dark when it
comes to that subject.  My question is this...can the hoses and the side
block fittings be installed on the motor with the motor in place in the car?
My guess is that they probably can, but I don't want to install the motor
without the hoses, only to find that I've got to take it all lose again and
jack it around in order to get the hoses on.  Can someone address this for
me?

Thanks very much,
Andy Walker
Edmond, OK
B382001600LRXFE
TAC #740
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Andy, et al,

I am sorry I can't help with your specific question, but I want to point 
out a potential problem with the stock set up.

I was doing about 80 on the way to work one morning when a huge cloud of 
smoke came from under the hood of my Mark 1. Scared the #@$% out of me! 
Turned out that my original rubber oil hose was laying on the u-joint of 
my steering shaft and had worn through. Oil sprayed onto the exhaust and 
created the smoke screen, but fortunately there was no fire. Just be 
careful when routing your oil hoses.

Good luck,
A. C. Tynes
New Orleans


On 1/12/2015 11:46 AM, awtiger--- via Tigers wrote:
> Hey, guys:
>
> Okay...all the work I've done over the last year is about to (hopefully) come to a conclusion.  It looks like the motor will go back in my car within a week or two!!!!  I still have one question, however, and hopefully you guys can shed a bit of light on this for me.  I've never owned a Tiger with the factory oil filter hose set up on it so I'm a bit in the dark when it comes to that subject.  My question is this...can the hoses and the side block fittings be installed on the motor with the motor in place in the car?  My guess is that they probably can, but I don't want to install the motor without the hoses, only to find that I've got to take it all lose again and jack it around in order to get the hoses on.  Can someone address this for me?
>
> Thanks very much,
> Andy Walker
> Edmond, OK
> B382001600LRXFE
> TAC #740
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Guys, I am interested in using an aftermarket wiring approach for my Mk1a
Tiger, like Painless wiring. I haven't dove into the fundamental design
basics of lucas and jaeger electronics..etc, but if reputation was all I
had to go from, I am expecting it to be complicated.

Can a system with conventional circuit protection, fuses etc like a
painless harness be adapted to all the electrical and instrumentation? Is
there any support out there for that exercise? I want all the original
lenses, bezels, instruments etc but with the technology of aftermarket
street rod style wiring.

As always, thank you!
Cullen
Alpine 260
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Factory oil filter hoses
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" Just be careful when routing your oil hoses." (A J)

And be careful with the gasket between the oil filter ring and the adapter.
Nothing I read told me it needed gasket cement (yeah, I shoulda figgered
THAT out!)) and it took less than a minute to empty most of the oil from
the sump.

Smoke? Oh Hell Yes! Oil on headers. Lucky there wasn't a fire.

Tom
'67 Mark 2


On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 6:36 PM, A. C. via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Andy, et al,
>
> I am sorry I can't help with your specific question, but I want to point
> out a potential problem with the stock set up.
>
> I was doing about 80 on the way to work one morning when a huge cloud of
> smoke came from under the hood of my Mark 1. Scared the #@$% out of me!
> Turned out that my original rubber oil hose was laying on the u-joint of my
> steering shaft and had worn through. Oil sprayed onto the exhaust and
> created the smoke screen, but fortunately there was no fire. Just be
> careful when routing your oil hoses.
>
> Good luck,
> A. C. Tynes
> New Orleans
>
>
> On 1/12/2015 11:46 AM, awtiger--- via Tigers wrote:
>
>> Hey, guys:
>>
>> Okay...all the work I've done over the last year is about to (hopefully)
>> come to a conclusion.  It looks like the motor will go back in my car
>> within a week or two!!!!  I still have one question, however, and hopefully
>> you guys can shed a bit of light on this for me.  I've never owned a Tiger
>> with the factory oil filter hose set up on it so I'm a bit in the dark when
>> it comes to that subject.  My question is this...can the hoses and the side
>> block fittings be installed on the motor with the motor in place in the
>> car?  My guess is that they probably can, but I don't want to install the
>> motor without the hoses, only to find that I've got to take it all lose
>> again and jack it around in order to get the hoses on.  Can someone address
>> this for me?
>>
>> Thanks very much,
>> Andy Walker
>> Edmond, OK
>> B382001600LRXFE
>> TAC #740
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> tigers@autox.team.net
>>
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Cullen,

Check out British wiring (http://www.britishwiring.com/). they have exact
replacements for the original wiring harnesses. It's easy to add fuses
where needed and still keep the car close to "stock."

Tom
'67 Mark 2


On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 6:52 PM, Cullen McCann via Tigers <
tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Guys, I am interested in using an aftermarket wiring approach for my Mk1a
> Tiger, like Painless wiring. I haven't dove into the fundamental design
> basics of lucas and jaeger electronics..etc, but if reputation was all I
> had to go from, I am expecting it to be complicated.
>
> Can a system with conventional circuit protection, fuses etc like a
> painless harness be adapted to all the electrical and instrumentation? Is
> there any support out there for that exercise? I want all the original
> lenses, bezels, instruments etc but with the technology of aftermarket
> street rod style wiring.
>
> As always, thank you!
> Cullen
> Alpine 260
> _______________________________________________
>
> tigers@autox.team.net
>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger elec components with non-factory wiring?
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It would not be a problem, the electrical is pretty similar except for the Generator. You might keep some of the wiring and just redo sketchy parts. I would definitely use a fuse block with more then 2 fuses :). The areas of trickiness I'm guessing would be turn signal and Generator, the rest is pretty simple in looking at the diagrams. That all being said you might be better off starting with a replica harness and just add a fuse block, I think all the individual terminations for things ends up at the 2 fuses and each of those wires could be set to their own fuse. I have some melted wires under the dash that proves a 20 (or 30??) amp fuse will not blow if a small wire gets a short! 

One other issue is if you intend on using all the odd connectors to things like motors, wipers, etc, if not and you have no issue chopping them and using safe and modern connectors a new harness is OK, but if you have to start splicing bullet connectors everywhere, easier to start with a stock harness and fix the fuse box IMO ;)

Sandy


 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 3:52 PM
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger elec components with non-factory wiring?
  

Guys, I am interested in using an aftermarket wiring approach for my Mk1a
Tiger, like Painless wiring. I haven't dove into the fundamental design
basics of lucas and jaeger electronics..etc, but if reputation was all I
had to go from, I am expecting it to be complicated.

Can a system with conventional circuit protection, fuses etc like a
painless harness be adapted to all the electrical and instrumentation? Is
there any support out there for that exercise? I want all the original
lenses, bezels, instruments etc but with the technology of aftermarket
street rod style wiring.

As always, thank you!
Cullen
Alpine 260
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger elec components with non-factory wiring?
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Thanks Sandy...as always, your a wealth of knowledge. Thank you Tom also for
the source on the wiring. That will help. Yes, Both of you are correct, that I
want more circuit protection than the two fuses that the system is designed to
provide. At a minimum, I will take a stock harness or a replica of an original
harness and add additional fuses. My preference, however, was to have more
flexibility routing locations, choosing where to route the wiring. This would
require pay cut to fit type approach with some additional length. While I do
have an appreciation for making a period correct presentation, I may choose to
conceal some of my wiring more so than the factory. I will not likely drape it
across the inner fender panels as it was originally. I have had extremely good
results with street rod style aftermarket harnesses. That's why I was pushing
that direction. But, I have a complete and uncut original harness. I am
certainly interested in using an alternator system versus the generator
system.

Hard to explain my motivation or inspiration for original components versus
custom ones, but I suspect and I phrased my original question that it would
help to understand better. I like original hardware, original gauges and
interiors , original colors and styling, but will more than likely modernize
my electronics , brakes, and other subtle places to improve quality-of-life,
And in my opinion, reliability. Not trying to start a design debate, this is
just my Comfort zone.

Sandy's approach is the closest so far to what I'm hoping to achieve. More
specifically, however, I was wondering if anyone had ever adapted a completely
aftermarket style harness to factory electronic components. The wipers,
gauges, and all the lighting systems etc.

Cullen

Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 13, 2015, at 9:10 PM, Sandy Ganz <sganz@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
> It would not be a problem, the electrical is pretty similar except for the
Generator. You might keep some of the wiring and just redo sketchy parts. I
would definitely use a fuse block with more then 2 fuses :). The areas of
trickiness I'm guessing would be turn signal and Generator, the rest is pretty
simple in looking at the diagrams. That all being said you might be better off
starting with a replica harness and just add a fuse block, I think all the
individual terminations for things ends up at the 2 fuses and each of those
wires could be set to their own fuse. I have some melted wires under the dash
that proves a 20 (or 30??) amp fuse will not blow if a small wire gets a
short!
>
> One other issue is if you intend on using all the odd connectors to things
like motors, wipers, etc, if not and you have no issue chopping them and using
safe and modern connectors a new harness is OK, but if you have to start
splicing bullet connectors everywhere, easier to start with a stock harness
and fix the fuse box IMO ;)
>
> Sandy
>
>
>
> From: Cullen McCann via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> To: "tigers@autox.team.net" <tigers@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 3:52 PM
> Subject: [Tigers] Tiger elec components with non-factory wiring?
>
> Guys, I am interested in using an aftermarket wiring approach for my Mk1a
> Tiger, like Painless wiring. I haven't dove into the fundamental design
> basics of lucas and jaeger electronics..etc, but if reputation was all I
> had to go from, I am expecting it to be complicated.
>
> Can a system with conventional circuit protection, fuses etc like a
> painless harness be adapted to all the electrical and instrumentation? Is
> there any support out there for that exercise? I want all the original
> lenses, bezels, instruments etc but with the technology of aftermarket
> street rod style wiring.
>
> As always, thank you!
> Cullen
> Alpine 260
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>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger elec components with non-factory wiring?
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Cullen,

One on the saoca/cat forum members offers a complete modern multi fuse
harness for tigers and alpines. Do a quick search on the saoca and his
details will come up. Lots of people have used with great success and he's
a sunbeam guy so knows the cars and is  willing to help
On 14 Jan 2015 11:29, "Cullen McCann via Tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Thanks Sandy...as always, your a wealth of knowledge. Thank you Tom also
> for
> the source on the wiring. That will help. Yes, Both of you are correct,
> that I
> want more circuit protection than the two fuses that the system is
> designed to
> provide. At a minimum, I will take a stock harness or a replica of an
> original
> harness and add additional fuses. My preference, however, was to have more
> flexibility routing locations, choosing where to route the wiring. This
> would
> require pay cut to fit type approach with some additional length. While I
> do
> have an appreciation for making a period correct presentation, I may
> choose to
> conceal some of my wiring more so than the factory. I will not likely
> drape it
> across the inner fender panels as it was originally. I have had extremely
> good
> results with street rod style aftermarket harnesses. That's why I was
> pushing
> that direction. But, I have a complete and uncut original harness. I am
> certainly interested in using an alternator system versus the generator
> system.
>
> Hard to explain my motivation or inspiration for original components versus
> custom ones, but I suspect and I phrased my original question that it would
> help to understand better. I like original hardware, original gauges and
> interiors , original colors and styling, but will more than likely
> modernize
> my electronics , brakes, and other subtle places to improve
> quality-of-life,
> And in my opinion, reliability. Not trying to start a design debate, this
> is
> just my Comfort zone.
>
> Sandy's approach is the closest so far to what I'm hoping to achieve. More
> specifically, however, I was wondering if anyone had ever adapted a
> completely
> aftermarket style harness to factory electronic components. The wipers,
> gauges, and all the lighting systems etc.
>
> Cullen
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jan 13, 2015, at 9:10 PM, Sandy Ganz <sganz@pacbell.net> wrote:
> >
> > It would not be a problem, the electrical is pretty similar except for
> the
> Generator. You might keep some of the wiring and just redo sketchy parts. I
> would definitely use a fuse block with more then 2 fuses :). The areas of
> trickiness I'm guessing would be turn signal and Generator, the rest is
> pretty
> simple in looking at the diagrams. That all being said you might be better
> off
> starting with a replica harness and just add a fuse block, I think all the
> individual terminations for things ends up at the 2 fuses and each of those
> wires could be set to their own fuse. I have some melted wires under the
> dash
> that proves a 20 (or 30??) amp fuse will not blow if a small wire gets a
> short!
> >
> > One other issue is if you intend on using all the odd connectors to
> things
> like motors, wipers, etc, if not and you have no issue chopping them and
> using
> safe and modern connectors a new harness is OK, but if you have to start
> splicing bullet connectors everywhere, easier to start with a stock harness
> and fix the fuse box IMO ;)
> >
> > Sandy
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Cullen McCann via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> > To: "tigers@autox.team.net" <tigers@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 3:52 PM
> > Subject: [Tigers] Tiger elec components with non-factory wiring?
> >
> > Guys, I am interested in using an aftermarket wiring approach for my Mk1a
> > Tiger, like Painless wiring. I haven't dove into the fundamental design
> > basics of lucas and jaeger electronics..etc, but if reputation was all I
> > had to go from, I am expecting it to be complicated.
> >
> > Can a system with conventional circuit protection, fuses etc like a
> > painless harness be adapted to all the electrical and instrumentation? Is
> > there any support out there for that exercise? I want all the original
> > lenses, bezels, instruments etc but with the technology of aftermarket
> > street rod style wiring.
> >
> > As always, thank you!
> > Cullen
> > Alpine 260
> > _______________________________________________
> >
> > tigers@autox.team.net
> >
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger elec components with non-factory wiring?
From: "Smit, Theo via Tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net>
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Cullen,
I used a Painless 7 fuse auxiliary block (their PN 70107), and added a
bank of relays, each with 30A circuit breakers. The fuse block is split
into an accessory9 and a ignition switched9 block; I used one relay to
switch on the ignition-switched block so that the ignition key doesn9t see
any high loads from the heater, ignition, wipers, fuel pump, etc. The horn
got its own relay; the high and low beams each got a relay; and the
electric fan and fuel pump took the other spots, I think. The only bad
thing I encountered was in South Dakota where the starter solenoid wire
melted because the solenoid on my mini-starter was drawing 20 amps. That
killed my autocross there... Live and learn, and like Sandy says, make
sure your wire is bigger than your fuses!

Integrating with the existing harness depends mostly on how reversible9
you want it to be, and what the condition of your existing harness is. I
spliced into the harness at the original spade connectors where those were
supposed to plug into the original fuse box. I mounted my new fuse box
just ahead of the ignition switch, under the dash. If your current wiring
is 50 years old then you should probably get one of Rick9s or the British
Wiring harnesses and THEN add your own fuse panel.

Definitely look at the wire gauge and what the accessory is that you are
driving with it, and substitute fuses accordingly. Just because that fuse
panel comes with 20A fuses in all the slots does not mean that is correct
for your application - pretty much none of the accessories should draw
over 15 amps EVER including at startup.

Happy wiring,
Theo

On 2015-01-13, 8:10 PM, "Sandy Ganz via Tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net>
wrote:

>It would not be a problem, the electrical is pretty similar except for
>the Generator. You might keep some of the wiring and just redo sketchy
>parts. I would definitely use a fuse block with more then 2 fuses :). The
>areas of trickiness I'm guessing would be turn signal and Generator, the
>rest is pretty simple in looking at the diagrams. That all being said you
>might be better off starting with a replica harness and just add a fuse
>block, I think all the individual terminations for things ends up at the
>2 fuses and each of those wires could be set to their own fuse. I have
>some melted wires under the dash that proves a 20 (or 30??) amp fuse will
>not blow if a small wire gets a short!
>
>One other issue is if you intend on using all the odd connectors to
>things like motors, wipers, etc, if not and you have no issue chopping
>them and using safe and modern connectors a new harness is OK, but if you
>have to start splicing bullet connectors everywhere, easier to start with
>a stock harness and fix the fuse box IMO ;)
>
>Sandy
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: Cullen McCann via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
>To: "tigers@autox.team.net" <tigers@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 3:52 PM
>Subject: [Tigers] Tiger elec components with non-factory wiring?
>
>
>Guys, I am interested in using an aftermarket wiring approach for my Mk1a
>Tiger, like Painless wiring. I haven't dove into the fundamental design
>basics of lucas and jaeger electronics..etc, but if reputation was all I
>had to go from, I am expecting it to be complicated.
>
>Can a system with conventional circuit protection, fuses etc like a
>painless harness be adapted to all the electrical and instrumentation? Is
>there any support out there for that exercise? I want all the original
>lenses, bezels, instruments etc but with the technology of aftermarket
>street rod style wiring.
>
>As always, thank you!
>Cullen
>Alpine 260
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I bought a Rebel Wire harness for my Mk 1.  It has some Tiger specific
instructions with it.
It appears to be one of their street rod harnesses adapted for Tiger/Alpine
use.  I
have one of their harnesses in my 35 Ford street rod and it was easy to
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been totally reliable over the past 4 years.
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Guys:

Isn't there supposed to be a grommet on the firewall where the windshield washer hose passes through?  I've tried inserting a grommet with the hose still in place but that has proven to be next to impossible.  The grommet that comes with the SS rubber kit that looks like it would be the one for that application is too small to comfortably fit over the hose.  The only way I can see that you'd ever get that to work would be to shove it over the hose and then try to put the grommet in the firewall.  As I said, however, I'm not having any luck with that either.  In addition, I cannot see where the hose comes through the firewall under the dash.  Is there a trick to doing this that I'm just not seeing or does the whole dash and all that other stuff under there have to come out first???

Thanks,
Andy Walker
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Andy
	You will need to use a piece of wire to find the path through the
firewall.  It may need to be a wire on the inside of the tubing if that
helps you.  I believe the hole on the dash side is up high and slightly
forward of the hole on the firewall side.  If you have the dash wire harness
in, it might be covering the hole for the tubing.

I don't know if I have ever seen the original grommet for this tubing.  I
believe it is similar to the grommet for the heater valve cable; about 1/2"
long and looks like a plug with a hole in the center for the tubing.  I
don't have a grommet for that tubing on my Tiger.

Ron Fraser

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Guys:

Isn't there supposed to be a grommet on the firewall where the windshield
washer hose passes through?  I've tried inserting a grommet with the hose
still in place but that has proven to be next to impossible.  The grommet
that comes with the SS rubber kit that looks like it would be the one for
that application is too small to comfortably fit over the hose.  The only
way I can see that you'd ever get that to work would be to shove it over the
hose and then try to put the grommet in the firewall.  As I said, however,
I'm not having any luck with that either.  In addition, I cannot see where
the hose comes through the firewall under the dash.  Is there a trick to
doing this that I'm just not seeing or does the whole dash and all that
other stuff under there have to come out first???

Thanks,
Andy Walker
Edmond, OK
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As Michael indicated Pete (Paul) Almjeld ,  a Tiger as well as Alpine owner,
markets kits which are basically from "Rebel Wiring".

Easy to follow instructions and adapted indeed for our Sunbeams.
http://petesperformancewiring.com/Home_Page.php . 

I have used this kit. I did made a couple of changes myself by adding an
additional relays for fog lights. 

It is a good basic kit, easy to install, but it is limited inflexibility for
add-ons or  changes. Pete is very helpful in addressing any questions you
might have.

 

Another approach I have been thinking about for another car,  is the kit of
http://www.classic-technologies.com/fuse-box.php#specifications .

Not the cheapest, but it appears to be a very clean and very well packaged
unit. Has anybody used this last one? 

 

Robert 
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When I did my electric pump install, I replaced all of the hoses up to the
bTb under the dash. For those of you who haven't tried threading a new
washer hose through the fire wall holes, it's not as simple as it first
appears. The hose goes through the inaccessible (without a torch) boxed in
section of the fire wall next to the heater core, and the hole into the
engine compartment does not align with the hole into the under dash area.

Fortunately, the old hose was still in place when I started.   A piece of
steel wire just under a yard long was used to connect the old and
new hoses. I pushed the wire as far into the old hose as I could, which was
nearly to the inner hole, then pushed the new hose over the remaining wire
until it met the old. With my son pushing on the outside, and me pulling
under the dash, the new hose followed the old right to the inner hole. The
new hose I used has a larger outer diameter than the original, almost
matching the diameter of the fire wall holes, so it took a minute or two of
wiggling to get it through. The new hose has a larger diameter than the
old, making a pretty good seal at the fire wall as is, so no grommet is
necessary.  IIRC, I removed the remnants of the old grommet since the new
hose would not fit through it.

Stu

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <
tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Andy
>         You will need to use a piece of wire to find the path through the
> firewall.  It may need to be a wire on the inside of the tubing if that
> helps you.  I believe the hole on the dash side is up high and slightly
> forward of the hole on the firewall side.  If you have the dash wire
> harness
> in, it might be covering the hole for the tubing.
>
> I don't know if I have ever seen the original grommet for this tubing.  I
> believe it is similar to the grommet for the heater valve cable; about 1/2"
> long and looks like a plug with a hole in the center for the tubing.  I
> don't have a grommet for that tubing on my Tiger.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> awtiger---
> via Tigers
> Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 9:04 AM
> To: tigers@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] Windshield washer hose
>
>
> Guys:
>
> Isn't there supposed to be a grommet on the firewall where the windshield
> washer hose passes through?  I've tried inserting a grommet with the hose
> still in place but that has proven to be next to impossible.  The grommet
> that comes with the SS rubber kit that looks like it would be the one for
> that application is too small to comfortably fit over the hose.  The only
> way I can see that you'd ever get that to work would be to shove it over
> the
> hose and then try to put the grommet in the firewall.  As I said, however,
> I'm not having any luck with that either.  In addition, I cannot see where
> the hose comes through the firewall under the dash.  Is there a trick to
> doing this that I'm just not seeing or does the whole dash and all that
> other stuff under there have to come out first???
>
> Thanks,
> Andy Walker
> Edmond, OK
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Theo,
I do remember your car in CO springs, and I think I have a couple of
pics...but naturally at the time I didn't have the forethought to study
detailing with respect to wiring. I do recall it seemed really sanitary
under the hood. That's exactly the look im going for. Traditional but just
a bit extra clean. I follow your explanation on this really well. this
sound like the perfect marriage for what I'm trying to do. like you said,
not need to rework the under dash harness if its doing its job just fine. I
just need a bit of technology, like yours, concealed ignition, possibly EFI
( not there yet).

I hadn't considered the false floor for storage...brilliant idea. that's
probably an old tiger trick that I just wasn't clued in to.

Theo, what type of EFI are you running?

Thank you for your help. This is exactly what I was wondering about.

Cullen



On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 10:08 PM, Smit, Theo <Theo.Smit@garmin.com> wrote:

> Cullen, I donB9t know if you looked at my Tiger in Colorado Springs. I ran
> the engine compartment wiring through the firewall at the right, then
> immediately out into the right-side fender; from there up over top of the
> fender arch lip and forward to the radiator crossmember. Along the way, I
> used one of the holes in the fender to bring out the wiring for the
> alternator, distributor trigger, and the coolant sensor. Those tucked
> under/behind the alternator so they were mostly out of sight. The right
> side horn, headlight and signal lights were the next stop; then the wiring
> ran along the radiator crossmember to the left-side headlight, signal
> light, horn, and electric fan. There was a wire there for the electric fan
> switch which was mounted in the radiator when I did the wiring, but then I
> moved it to the thermostat housing and I (temporarily) ran it along the
> radiator hose over to the engine.
>
> I ran the MSD wiring to the coil underneath the steering column; the coil
> is mounted on the left head. The EFI injector wires were run from the left
> side of the engine, using the bolt access hole that is already on that
> side for valve cover/plug access. ItB9s pretty much invisible there.
> The end result of all this is basically no obviously apparent wiring on
> either side of the engine compartment.
>
> I used the passenger footwell to house the EFI electronics. I modified the
> foot rest with a piano hinge along the bottom so it swings back to give
> access, with a simple loop fastener (gotta do that better...) to hold it
> up and in place. The MSD-6 is mounted in the left kick panel on a plate so
> that the MSD itself sits in the rectangular chassis cutout thatB9s there.
> It juuuust fits.
>
> I donB9t know if there is much benefit to doing a full rewire of the under
> dash setup. You would need to adapt whatever harness you got to suit the
> Tiger heater, wiper, signal light, and instrumentation wiring, where the
> OEM harness has all that done for you.
>
> Theo
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Stu/Ron, et al:



Thank you both for your suggestions.  It sure sounds like a lot of work to go
to just to replace a windshield washer hose grommetb&but I suppose Ibll
probably do it.  Therebs no sense in stopping now, right?



Therebs one point that I wanted to clear up, thoughb&I am assuming that the
instrument facia panel should be out when attempting this, correct?



Thanks,

Andy



From: Stu [mailto:sabre2tgr@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 8:52 AM
To: rfraser@bluefrog.com
Cc: Andy Walker; tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Windshield washer hose



When I did my electric pump install, I replaced all of the hoses up to the
bTb under the dash. For those of you who haven't tried threading a new
washer hose through the fire wall holes, it's not as simple as it first
appears. The hose goes through the inaccessible (without a torch) boxed in
section of the fire wall next to the heater core, and the hole into the engine
compartment does not align with the hole into the under dash area.



Fortunately, the old hose was still in place when I started.   A piece of
steel wire just under a yard long was used to connect the old and new hoses. I
pushed the wire as far into the old hose as I could, which was nearly to the
inner hole, then pushed the new hose over the remaining wire until it met the
old. With my son pushing on the outside, and me pulling under the dash, the
new hose followed the old right to the inner hole. The new hose I used has a
larger outer diameter than the original, almost matching the diameter of the
fire wall holes, so it took a minute or two of wiggling to get it through. The
new hose has a larger diameter than the old, making a pretty good seal at the
fire wall as is, so no grommet is necessary.  IIRC, I removed the remnants of
the old grommet since the new hose would not fit through it.



Stu



On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net

Andy
        You will need to use a piece of wire to find the path through the
firewall.  It may need to be a wire on the inside of the tubing if that
helps you.  I believe the hole on the dash side is up high and slightly
forward of the hole on the firewall side.  If you have the dash wire harness
in, it might be covering the hole for the tubing.

I don't know if I have ever seen the original grommet for this tubing.  I
believe it is similar to the grommet for the heater valve cable; about 1/2"
long and looks like a plug with a hole in the center for the tubing.  I
don't have a grommet for that tubing on my Tiger.

Ron Fraser

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Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 9:04 AM
Subject: [Tigers] Windshield washer hose


Guys:

Isn't there supposed to be a grommet on the firewall where the windshield
washer hose passes through?  I've tried inserting a grommet with the hose
still in place but that has proven to be next to impossible.  The grommet
that comes with the SS rubber kit that looks like it would be the one for
that application is too small to comfortably fit over the hose.  The only
way I can see that you'd ever get that to work would be to shove it over the
hose and then try to put the grommet in the firewall.  As I said, however,
I'm not having any luck with that either.  In addition, I cannot see where
the hose comes through the firewall under the dash.  Is there a trick to
doing this that I'm just not seeing or does the whole dash and all that
other stuff under there have to come out first???

Thanks,
Andy Walker
Edmond, OK
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No, I did mine with the panel and everything else in place.  Of course, I'm
on the small side, not NFL of NBA material at all.

Stu

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 6:22 PM, Andy Walker <awtiger@cox.net> wrote:

> Stu/Ron, et al:
>
>
>
> Thank you both for your suggestions.  It sure sounds like a lot of work to
> go to just to replace a windshield washer hose grommetb&but I suppose
Ibll
> probably do it.  Therebs no sense in stopping now, right?
>
>
>
> Therebs one point that I wanted to clear up, thoughb&I am assuming that
the
> instrument facia panel should be out when attempting this, correct?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
>
>
>
> *From:* Stu [mailto:sabre2tgr@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 14, 2015 8:52 AM
> *To:* rfraser@bluefrog.com
> *Cc:* Andy Walker; tigers@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Windshield washer hose
>
>
>
> When I did my electric pump install, I replaced all of the hoses up to the
> bTb under the dash. For those of you who haven't tried threading a new
> washer hose through the fire wall holes, it's not as simple as it first
> appears. The hose goes through the inaccessible (without a torch) boxed in
> section of the fire wall next to the heater core, and the hole into the
> engine compartment does not align with the hole into the under dash area.
>
>
>
> Fortunately, the old hose was still in place when I started.   A piece of
> steel wire just under a yard long was used to connect the old and
> new hoses. I pushed the wire as far into the old hose as I could, which was
> nearly to the inner hole, then pushed the new hose over the remaining wire
> until it met the old. With my son pushing on the outside, and me pulling
> under the dash, the new hose followed the old right to the inner hole. The
> new hose I used has a larger outer diameter than the original, almost
> matching the diameter of the fire wall holes, so it took a minute or two of
> wiggling to get it through. The new hose has a larger diameter than the
> old, making a pretty good seal at the fire wall as is, so no grommet is
> necessary.  IIRC, I removed the remnants of the old grommet since the new
> hose would not fit through it.
>
>
>
> Stu
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 9:31 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <
> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> Andy
>         You will need to use a piece of wire to find the path through the
> firewall.  It may need to be a wire on the inside of the tubing if that
> helps you.  I believe the hole on the dash side is up high and slightly
> forward of the hole on the firewall side.  If you have the dash wire
> harness
> in, it might be covering the hole for the tubing.
>
> I don't know if I have ever seen the original grommet for this tubing.  I
> believe it is similar to the grommet for the heater valve cable; about 1/2"
> long and looks like a plug with a hole in the center for the tubing.  I
> don't have a grommet for that tubing on my Tiger.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
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>
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> Guys:
>
> Isn't there supposed to be a grommet on the firewall where the windshield
> washer hose passes through?  I've tried inserting a grommet with the hose
> still in place but that has proven to be next to impossible.  The grommet
> that comes with the SS rubber kit that looks like it would be the one for
> that application is too small to comfortably fit over the hose.  The only
> way I can see that you'd ever get that to work would be to shove it over
> the
> hose and then try to put the grommet in the firewall.  As I said, however,
> I'm not having any luck with that either.  In addition, I cannot see where
> the hose comes through the firewall under the dash.  Is there a trick to
> doing this that I'm just not seeing or does the whole dash and all that
> other stuff under there have to come out first???
>
> Thanks,
> Andy Walker
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Guys,

I am cleaning out my garage and have some spare parts.  I was going to put
the items on ebay but decided to let you guys have a chance first.  I have
the following parts:

-          Original exhaust manifolds (#C3DE-9431 and #DA 21120D)

-          Upper and Lower A-Arms (they are cleaned and painted but need
ball joints and bushings)

-          License plate light & bracket 

-          Trunk latch & bracket (no key)

-          Original trunk hinges (Good shape for 50 years old - some
pitting)

-          B-pillar chrome caps (some scratches - need re-chromed)

-          Two Doors (From an Alpine GT - square corner)

-          Trunk lid (From an Alpine GT- square corner)

-          Hood (square corner)

-          Chrome trim around windshield (4 pieces - some scratches on upper
piece, others are in good shape)

-          Cowl air intakes

-          Console (no rust, no key)

-          Two spindles (from the Alpine GT)

-          Two tail lights (Chrome and lenses in good shape except for small
dent in one.  One is inside screw and one is outside)

 

I have pictures of most items except the hood, trunk and two doors.  If
someone is interested in them, I will dig them out and take a picture.

 

Contact me at tlkukla@comcast.net, if you are interested in any of the items
and I will send you a picture and the price of the item.  Prices were based
off the internet and all are negotiable.

 

In three or four weeks, I will put the remaining items on ebay.

 

Tom Kukla

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A yellow Tiger sold last night on Barrett-Jackson for $68,000 plus fees.

FWIW

http://barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1965-SUNBEAM-TIGER-CONVERTIBLE-180924

Cheers,

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The same car sold on Craig's List in Seattle for $35k back in
September.B Brian

B9470208LRXFE GT
B9471101LRXFE
B9472615LRXFE
B382000846LRXFE
B382001212LRXFE

     On Thursday, January 15, 2015 8:51 AM, Tod Brown via Tigers
<tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:


 A yellow Tiger sold last night on Barrett-Jackson for $68,000 plus fees.

FWIW

http://barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1965-SUNBEAM-TIGER-CONVERTIBL
E-180924

Cheers,

Tod
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The $75K is about market price in today's money. The $35K in Seattle seems  
like a real bargain (unless there are hidden issues).
 
 
In a message dated 1/15/2015 4:18:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
tigers@autox.team.net writes:

The same  car sold on Craig's List in Seattle for $35k back in
September.B  Brian

B9470208LRXFE  GT
B9471101LRXFE
B9472615LRXFE
B382000846LRXFE
B382001212LRXFE

On Thursday, January 15, 2015 8:51 AM, Tod Brown via  Tigers
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A yellow Tiger sold  last night on Barrett-Jackson for $68,000 plus  fees.

FWIW

http://barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1965-SUNBEAM-TIGER-CONVERTIB
L
E-180924

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Tod
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I have the engine and transmission out of my '67, MK-II Tiger and about
ready to go back in.  Does anyone know what colors the bell housing and
transmission are supposed to be?

Jeff Eakin
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Mine were Ford Blue, like the engine block. I'll leave it up to the purists
to define exactly which "Ford Blue"; once it's in the car I doubt anyone
will notice.

Tom

'67 Mark 2 (#6 off the line if it matters...)

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> I have the engine and transmission out of my '67, MK-II Tiger and about
> ready to go back in.  Does anyone know what colors the bell housing and
> transmission are supposed to be?
>
> Jeff Eakin
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Jeff

	TBON states Old Ford Dark Blue for the engine

Bob Mannel's Book states Ford Corporate Blue - medium dark blue for the
engine.

If there is any blue on the engine or transmission;; try to match that
color.

It's your Tiger; paint it the shade of blue you like best.

I left the bellhousing on my Tiger natural; I don't know it that is correct
but I like it that way.
If there is color on your bellhousing try to match it.

Ron Fraser

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I have the engine and transmission out of my '67, MK-II Tiger and about
ready to go back in.  Does anyone know what colors the bell housing and
transmission are supposed to be?

Jeff Eakin
Colorado Assn of Tiger Owners (CATO)
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Bell housing is left natural aluminum.
Trans is not painted. The cast iron was plated in phosphate and oil.

Pop in to  www.concoursmustang.com   
They will be able to direct you to the exact coatings and how to do it.

Now on to my pet peeve.

Ford NEVER painted transmissions Corporate Blue.  A blue trans is the mark of a complete amateur.

Erich
---- Jeff Eakin via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: 
> I have the engine and transmission out of my '67, MK-II Tiger and about
> ready to go back in.  Does anyone know what colors the bell housing and
> transmission are supposed to be?
> 
> Jeff Eakin
> Colorado Assn of Tiger Owners (CATO)
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Erich
	Never say never when dealing with the Tiger.  There are a couple of
original owners who will disagree with you about their transmission not
being painted dark blue.

Just because that web site is concours Mustang does not mean concours Tiger.

Ron Fraser

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Bell housing is left natural aluminum.
Trans is not painted. The cast iron was plated in phosphate and oil.

Pop in to  www.concoursmustang.com
They will be able to direct you to the exact coatings and how to do it.

Now on to my pet peeve.

Ford NEVER painted transmissions Corporate Blue.  A blue trans is the mark
of a complete amateur.

Erich
---- Jeff Eakin via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
> I have the engine and transmission out of my '67, MK-II Tiger and
> about ready to go back in.  Does anyone know what colors the bell
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>
> Jeff Eakin
> Colorado Assn of Tiger Owners (CATO)
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Ron's right. I painted mine Blue, but to be honest I don't recall if it had
ever been painted. I have pictures of it somewhere in Georgia, but I'm not
there so I can't verify if it was painted. I may be an "amateur,"  but it's
my car.

The car had @ 65,000 miles on it when I tore it down. The engine was Blue.
As best I can tell it had never been apart before I started.

Tom
'67 Mark 2

On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <
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> Erich
>         Never say never when dealing with the Tiger.  There are a couple of
> original owners who will disagree with you about their transmission not
> being painted dark blue.
>
> Just because that web site is concours Mustang does not mean concours
> Tiger.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> e.coiner---
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>
>
> Bell housing is left natural aluminum.
> Trans is not painted. The cast iron was plated in phosphate and oil.
>
> Pop in to  www.concoursmustang.com
> They will be able to direct you to the exact coatings and how to do it.
>
> Now on to my pet peeve.
>
> Ford NEVER painted transmissions Corporate Blue.  A blue trans is the mark
> of a complete amateur.
>
> Erich
> ---- Jeff Eakin via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
> > I have the engine and transmission out of my '67, MK-II Tiger and
> > about ready to go back in.  Does anyone know what colors the bell
> > housing and transmission are supposed to be?
> >
> > Jeff Eakin
> > Colorado Assn of Tiger Owners (CATO)
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Hi Guys - I'm thinking of buying a Mk 2, but it is missing the wheel arch trim.  Anybody on the list have an extra set of this trim?  I've been told that I should not buy a Mk 2 unless the car is complete, or I can get the missing pieces from somewhere.

Thanks,
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I9m thinking I would not pay a premium price for a Mk2 that was missing
some or all of its unique bits, since those are hard to come by and
generally very expensive for mint original pieces. Other than that, it is
still a Mk2... I9d try to make an appropriate deal with the current owner.
You9d have something to start searching for... Does it matter if that
search took a couple of years?

Cheers,
Theo

>Hi Guys - I'm thinking of buying a Mk 2, but it is missing the wheel arch
>trim.  Anybody on the list have an extra set of this trim?  I've been
>told that I should not buy a Mk 2 unless the car is complete, or I can
>get the missing pieces from somewhere.
>
>Thanks,
>Randy


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If anyone has a set of rear Tiger hubs they are interested in selling. Please
contact me off list.

Any ideas for after market rear hubs? I am not interested in going to 5-lug,
want to keep the 4x108 lug pattern. Not sure if the other car makes 4x108
(Pinto 71-80, Capri 71-88, Cougar 79-88, Porsche 924 77-84 etc) hubs
would bolt up to the Tiger axles? Anyone know?

Thanks,

John
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I am one of those original owners that Ron Fraser refers to. My late 
MkIA had its transmission
as well as the engine painted Old Ford Blue. Keep in mind that the Tiger 
engines came off a
different assembly line from the 260's in Mustangs, etc.

Also noticed that a Tiger II sold at RM Auctions for $125,000. Also, 
Norm reported that the
Harrington Tiger went for $175,000at the same auction.

Cheers,

Tod
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The last Tiger II wheel arch trim and the two straight pieces between  the 
wheel arches sold used for $8,300 on E-bay last summer. That is four times  
the price I paid for my 64 Tiger in 1967. The trim pieces is the first thing 
to  see if they are missing from the car.
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Hello folks,

Anyone know how to join STOA? Their web site does not appear to be operating
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GO HERE.
http://sunbeamtiger.org/index.php/the-club-menu/membership/levels

click the subscribe here button, requires paypal to join on line.


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Hey, guys:

Does anyone out there have a couple of what the parts book calls "D.C." washers (double-coil)?  Specifically, I'm looking for the D.C. washer that goes on the hood prop where it hooks to its swivel point on the car (I think this one is 5/16" in I.D.).  Also, isn't there one of these that's supposed to go on the hood latch mechanism under the pull rod slide that keeps the slide at the correct height?  I would swear I've seen them on there before on Tigers and Alpines but my car didn't have one and I can't find one in the parts book.  

Bottom line is that I am for sure in need of the one that goes on the prop rod and, if there is supposed to be one on the hood latch mechanism, then I need it as well.  As usual, I appreciate any assistance.

BTW...the engine & trans combo is finally going back in the car on Saturday.  Wish me good luck!!!!!

Thanks,
Andy Walker
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Come on, somebody must have an extra bonnet they can cut up to use this
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http://www.hemmings.com/parts/item/6553.html?refer=blog
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I did see a Tiger out there with stacks like this before.  It has been a
long time.  But I seem to recall the owner was one of the more present guys
on the lists or boards.

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Mark Rense via Tigers <
tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Come on, somebody must have an extra bonnet they can cut up to use this
> intake!
>
> http://www.hemmings.com/parts/item/6553.html?refer=blog
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those systems are gorgeous. unfortunately it would require cutting the
bonnet and notching the firewall. I had an EFI system similar to his with
late model down draft throttle bodies on an 48mm IDA intake, similar to the
cobras and corvette systems but with EFI. I had this system for my Tiger
and on the shelf for years before I chickened out of cutting my firewall
and sold it. Finally decided I didn't want to cut the main body tub for my
build. but believe me, I am no purist and I had every intention of
installing it.

Cullen
Alpine 260


On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Jay Laifman via Tigers <
tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

> I did see a Tiger out there with stacks like this before.  It has been a
> long time.  But I seem to recall the owner was one of the more present guys
> on the lists or boards.
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Mark Rense via Tigers <
> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> > Come on, somebody must have an extra bonnet they can cut up to use this
> > intake!
> >
> > http://www.hemmings.com/parts/item/6553.html?refer=blog
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] 289 Fuel injection
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Just so you know, two sets of Yamaha 600 sport bike throttle bodies will just
fit between the stock firewall and the distributor... The trick would be
managing the intake runners and the fuel plumbing. Hypothetically one could
modify a 2x4 manifold such as the offenhauser ones into an individual-runner
manifold or else leave it as is and use the common runners to offset the fact
that the motorcycle TB's have small butterflies.

If only there was infinite time...
Theo



> On Jan 22, 2015, at 11:00 AM, Cullen McCann via Tigers
<tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> those systems are gorgeous. unfortunately it would require cutting the
> bonnet and notching the firewall. I had an EFI system similar to his with
> late model down draft throttle bodies on an 48mm IDA intake, similar to the
> cobras and corvette systems but with EFI. I had this system for my Tiger
> and on the shelf for years before I chickened out of cutting my firewall
> and sold it. Finally decided I didn't want to cut the main body tub for my
> build. but believe me, I am no purist and I had every intention of
> installing it.
>
> Cullen
> Alpine 260
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Jay Laifman via Tigers <
> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> I did see a Tiger out there with stacks like this before.  It has been a
>> long time.  But I seem to recall the owner was one of the more present
guys
>> on the lists or boards.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Mark Rense via Tigers <
>> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Come on, somebody must have an extra bonnet they can cut up to use this
>>> intake!
>>>
>>> http://www.hemmings.com/parts/item/6553.html?refer=blog
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] 289 Fuel injection
From: Sandy via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
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I have one of the TWM SBF injectors sitting on the shelf and would love 
to get it on the tiger too. Will require a LOT of cutting. I looked at 
the Dale's resto car that had one and loved the way it looked. That 
being said, Tiger motor has a carb on it, lazy.

Sandy

On 1/22/2015 9:59 AM, Cullen McCann via Tigers wrote:
> those systems are gorgeous. unfortunately it would require cutting the
> bonnet and notching the firewall. I had an EFI system similar to his with
> late model down draft throttle bodies on an 48mm IDA intake, similar to the
> cobras and corvette systems but with EFI. I had this system for my Tiger
> and on the shelf for years before I chickened out of cutting my firewall
> and sold it. Finally decided I didn't want to cut the main body tub for my
> build. but believe me, I am no purist and I had every intention of
> installing it.
>
> Cullen
> Alpine 260
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Jay Laifman via Tigers <
> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> I did see a Tiger out there with stacks like this before.  It has been a
>> long time.  But I seem to recall the owner was one of the more present guys
>> on the lists or boards.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Mark Rense via Tigers <
>> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Come on, somebody must have an extra bonnet they can cut up to use this
>>> intake!
>>>
>>> http://www.hemmings.com/parts/item/6553.html?refer=blog
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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From: Sandy via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
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For the records, the Dana 44 that came out of my Tiger weight in at 
162lbs.  This is with brake drums, but NO springs, No e-brake linkage, etc.

Maintenance Note :

The PO had some really shady looking sway bar kit that looked like an 
add on afterthought, if you have one of these better check your brake 
lines and the bolts that tighten up the sloppy mess of clamps that hold 
it on.

Sandy

On 1/5/2015 11:50 AM, Sandy Ganz wrote:
> Thanks for all the GT info and pics. I'm embarking on getting my Tiger 
> 'race ready' but want to have it still have some semblance of a street 
> car (you know sleeper looking).
>
> Still debating on removing the top mechanism and things like that. 
> Will need to get into it a bit more to see all the sheet metal.
>
> Rear end came out last night, so I'm on my way! Looks like lots of bad 
> welding from the usual cracked traction masters. They got to go...
>
> Have a scale and will also weight the removed parts for fun. The 
> initial plan is to remove the D44 and swap with a 9". Hoping to shed 
> some lbs in the process.
>
> Will get some pics going as soon ;)
>
> Sandy
>
> *From:* Sandy Ganz <sganz@pacbell.net>
> *To:* "tigers@autox.team.net" <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 11:04 AM
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Tiger GT
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> What's the difference in the Tiger vs. Tiger GT structurally? It's it
> different trim and the convert top assembly removed? Looking to possibly
> remove the convert top and wonder how the GT was done to see if I could
> finish the inside up nice but less the convertible top.
>
> Thanks
>
> Sandy
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I9d like to be wrong, but isn9t a Ford 9 inch a lot beefier (and heavier)
than the Dana 44?
http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/8-vs-9-ford-rear-end-weight.3018
90/
Or are you using a lightweight housing, hollow axle shafts, and aluminum
centre section?

I do think that the Ford 9 inch (and copied by Toyota, et al) method of
assembling the gears in the centre section and bolting all that into the
carrier is far better than what Dana does.

Cheers,
Theo

On 2015-01-22, 12:41 PM, "Sandy via Tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

>For the records, the Dana 44 that came out of my Tiger weight in at
>162lbs.  This is with brake drums, but NO springs, No e-brake linkage,
>etc.
>
>Maintenance Note :
>
>The PO had some really shady looking sway bar kit that looked like an
>add on afterthought, if you have one of these better check your brake
>lines and the bolts that tighten up the sloppy mess of clamps that hold
>it on.
>
>Sandy
>
>On 1/5/2015 11:50 AM, Sandy Ganz wrote:
>> Thanks for all the GT info and pics. I'm embarking on getting my Tiger
>> 'race ready' but want to have it still have some semblance of a street
>> car (you know sleeper looking).
>>
>> Still debating on removing the top mechanism and things like that.
>> Will need to get into it a bit more to see all the sheet metal.
>>
>> Rear end came out last night, so I'm on my way! Looks like lots of bad
>> welding from the usual cracked traction masters. They got to go...
>>
>> Have a scale and will also weight the removed parts for fun. The
>> initial plan is to remove the D44 and swap with a 9". Hoping to shed
>> some lbs in the process.
>>
>> Will get some pics going as soon ;)
>>
>> Sandy
>>
>> *From:* Sandy Ganz <sganz@pacbell.net>
>> *To:* "tigers@autox.team.net" <tigers@autox.team.net>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 11:04 AM
>> *Subject:* [Tigers] Tiger GT
>>
>> What's the difference in the Tiger vs. Tiger GT structurally? It's it
>> different trim and the convert top assembly removed? Looking to possibly
>> remove the convert top and wonder how the GT was done to see if I could
>> finish the inside up nice but less the convertible top.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Sandy
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Guys I have a Mint hood for a Mk 1A ... in south Orange County CA ... does
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger GT
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Theo -

It equalizer is the aluminum center you can get in the 9", that removes 
a lot of iron out of the picture. I don't know how the housing weight 
will come into play until I get it. For hollow shafts might save a 
couple more lbs, but not sure yet if worth it depending on the cost.

The best way to loose some weight out of the Tiger is for me to lose 20 
lbs :)

One thing that will cost some lbs in the 9" is hubs and brakes. I think  
it will weight in more then the stuff on the Tiger D44.

And yes, it's nice to deal with the drop out center, easy to get parts, 
easy to swap!

Sandy

On 1/22/2015 1:40 PM, Smit, Theo wrote:
> I9d like to be wrong, but isn9t a Ford 9 inch a lot beefier (and heavier)
> than the Dana 44?
> http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/threads/8-vs-9-ford-rear-end-weight.3018
> 90/
> Or are you using a lightweight housing, hollow axle shafts, and aluminum
> centre section?
>
> I do think that the Ford 9 inch (and copied by Toyota, et al) method of
> assembling the gears in the centre section and bolting all that into the
> carrier is far better than what Dana does.
>
> Cheers,
> Theo
>
> On 2015-01-22, 12:41 PM, "Sandy via Tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> For the records, the Dana 44 that came out of my Tiger weight in at
>> 162lbs.  This is with brake drums, but NO springs, No e-brake linkage,
>> etc.
>>
>> Maintenance Note :
>>
>> The PO had some really shady looking sway bar kit that looked like an
>> add on afterthought, if you have one of these better check your brake
>> lines and the bolts that tighten up the sloppy mess of clamps that hold
>> it on.
>>
>> Sandy
>>
>> On 1/5/2015 11:50 AM, Sandy Ganz wrote:
>>> Thanks for all the GT info and pics. I'm embarking on getting my Tiger
>>> 'race ready' but want to have it still have some semblance of a street
>>> car (you know sleeper looking).
>>>
>>> Still debating on removing the top mechanism and things like that.
>>> Will need to get into it a bit more to see all the sheet metal.
>>>
>>> Rear end came out last night, so I'm on my way! Looks like lots of bad
>>> welding from the usual cracked traction masters. They got to go...
>>>
>>> Have a scale and will also weight the removed parts for fun. The
>>> initial plan is to remove the D44 and swap with a 9". Hoping to shed
>>> some lbs in the process.
>>>
>>> Will get some pics going as soon ;)
>>>
>>> Sandy
>>>
>>> *From:* Sandy Ganz <sganz@pacbell.net>
>>> *To:* "tigers@autox.team.net" <tigers@autox.team.net>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 24, 2014 11:04 AM
>>> *Subject:* [Tigers] Tiger GT
>>>
>>> What's the difference in the Tiger vs. Tiger GT structurally? It's it
>>> different trim and the convert top assembly removed? Looking to possibly
>>> remove the convert top and wonder how the GT was done to see if I could
>>> finish the inside up nice but less the convertible top.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Sandy
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
>>>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Need a couple of washers
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Andy
	I did not see if you got help with these.

DC washer = double coil spring washer

If you Google that name a number of sites pop up and hopefully one of them
sells them.

Ron Fraser

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Subject: [Tigers] Need a couple of washers


Hey, guys:

Does anyone out there have a couple of what the parts book calls "D.C."
washers (double-coil)?  Specifically, I'm looking for the D.C. washer that
goes on the hood prop where it hooks to its swivel point on the car (I think
this one is 5/16" in I.D.).  Also, isn't there one of these that's supposed
to go on the hood latch mechanism under the pull rod slide that keeps the
slide at the correct height?  I would swear I've seen them on there before
on Tigers and Alpines but my car didn't have one and I can't find one in the
parts book.

Bottom line is that I am for sure in need of the one that goes on the prop
rod and, if there is supposed to be one on the hood latch mechanism, then I
need it as well.  As usual, I appreciate any assistance.

BTW...the engine & trans combo is finally going back in the car on Saturday.
Wish me good luck!!!!!

Thanks,
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TAC #740
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And I might add..

B9470622 does have both of these from the factory..
Gary

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 16:09:28 -0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Need a couple of washers

Andy
	I did not see if you got help with these.

DC washer = double coil spring washer

If you Google that name a number of sites pop up and hopefully one of them
sells them.

Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:56 AM
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Subject: [Tigers] Need a couple of washers


Hey, guys:

Does anyone out there have a couple of what the parts book calls "D.C."
washers (double-coil)?  Specifically, I'm looking for the D.C. washer that
goes on the hood prop where it hooks to its swivel point on the car (I think
this one is 5/16" in I.D.).  Also, isn't there one of these that's supposed
to go on the hood latch mechanism under the pull rod slide that keeps the
slide at the correct height?  I would swear I've seen them on there before
on Tigers and Alpines but my car didn't have one and I can't find one in the
parts book.

Bottom line is that I am for sure in need of the one that goes on the prop
rod and, if there is supposed to be one on the hood latch mechanism, then I
need it as well.  As usual, I appreciate any assistance.

BTW...the engine & trans combo is finally going back in the car on Saturday.
Wish me good luck!!!!!

Thanks,
Andy Walker
Edmond, OK
B382001600LRXFE
TAC #740
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Being too lazy to start a new thread, would any of you's guys know what the
cut off is for vinyl dash on early mk1s. I thought it was 331 but not sure.
Thanks
   Jeff

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Gary Winblad via Tigers <
tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

> And I might add..
>
> B9470622 does have both of these from the factory..
> Gary
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> To: awtiger@cox.net, tigers@autox.team.net
> Sent: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 16:09:28 -0000 (UTC)
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Need a couple of washers
>
> Andy
>         I did not see if you got help with these.
>
> DC washer = double coil spring washer
>
> If you Google that name a number of sites pop up and hopefully one of them
> sells them.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> awtiger---
> via Tigers
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:56 AM
> To: tigers@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] Need a couple of washers
>
>
> Hey, guys:
>
> Does anyone out there have a couple of what the parts book calls "D.C."
> washers (double-coil)?  Specifically, I'm looking for the D.C. washer that
> goes on the hood prop where it hooks to its swivel point on the car (I
> think
> this one is 5/16" in I.D.).  Also, isn't there one of these that's supposed
> to go on the hood latch mechanism under the pull rod slide that keeps the
> slide at the correct height?  I would swear I've seen them on there before
> on Tigers and Alpines but my car didn't have one and I can't find one in
> the
> parts book.
>
> Bottom line is that I am for sure in need of the one that goes on the prop
> rod and, if there is supposed to be one on the hood latch mechanism, then I
> need it as well.  As usual, I appreciate any assistance.
>
> BTW...the engine & trans combo is finally going back in the car on
> Saturday.
> Wish me good luck!!!!!
>
> Thanks,
> Andy Walker
> Edmond, OK
> B382001600LRXFE
> TAC #740
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According to TBON, approximately
B9470400.
Gary

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> On Jan 25, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Being too lazy to start a new thread, would any of you's guys know what the
cut off is for vinyl dash on early mk1s. I thought it was 331 but not sure.
Thanks
>    Jeff
>
>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Gary Winblad via Tigers
<tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>> And I might add..
>>
>> B9470622 does have both of these from the factory..
>> Gary
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
>> To: awtiger@cox.net, tigers@autox.team.net
>> Sent: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 16:09:28 -0000 (UTC)
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Need a couple of washers
>>
>> Andy
>>         I did not see if you got help with these.
>>
>> DC washer = double coil spring washer
>>
>> If you Google that name a number of sites pop up and hopefully one of them
>> sells them.
>>
>> Ron Fraser
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
awtiger---
>> via Tigers
>> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:56 AM
>> To: tigers@autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Tigers] Need a couple of washers
>>
>>
>> Hey, guys:
>>
>> Does anyone out there have a couple of what the parts book calls "D.C."
>> washers (double-coil)?  Specifically, I'm looking for the D.C. washer that
>> goes on the hood prop where it hooks to its swivel point on the car (I
think
>> this one is 5/16" in I.D.).  Also, isn't there one of these that's
supposed
>> to go on the hood latch mechanism under the pull rod slide that keeps the
>> slide at the correct height?  I would swear I've seen them on there before
>> on Tigers and Alpines but my car didn't have one and I can't find one in
the
>> parts book.
>>
>> Bottom line is that I am for sure in need of the one that goes on the prop
>> rod and, if there is supposed to be one on the hood latch mechanism, then
I
>> need it as well.  As usual, I appreciate any assistance.
>>
>> BTW...the engine & trans combo is finally going back in the car on
Saturday.
>> Wish me good luck!!!!!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andy Walker
>> Edmond, OK
>> B382001600LRXFE
>> TAC #740
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> tigers@autox.team.net
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Just noticed it apparently sold for $187,000

http://www.rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=1072247

Theo

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Boy, that seems like a bargain.  Mecum just sold three  Tigers:  $94K, 
$67.5K, $54K, and one $31K no sale.  Plus a nice '64  Alpine for $21K.  Isn't 
that what Tigers were going for not too long  ago?
 
Charlie
 
 
In a message dated 1/25/2015 4:49:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
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Just  noticed it apparently sold for  $187,000

http://www.rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=1072247

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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Harrington Tiger
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The same auction that Harry was sold at also included a really nice 
MkII for
$125k, which seemed kind of low, based on some other recent 
sales. I can see
the Harrington not getting a massive premium, because 
while it is unique,
the styling is somewhat polarizing.

The Mecum sales were strong, for sure.
I guess the Tiger market is 
somewhat confused, presently :-)
-----Original Message-----
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To: Theo.Smit <Theo.Smit@garmin.com>; tigers
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Sent: Sun, Jan 25, 2015 5:05 pm
Subject: Re:
[Tigers] Harrington Tiger


Boy, that seems like a bargain.  Mecum just
sold three  Tigers:  $94K,
$67.5K, $54K, and one $31K no sale.  Plus a nice
'64  Alpine for $21K.  
Isn't
that what Tigers were going for not too long
ago?

Charlie


In a message dated 1/25/2015 4:49:24 P.M. Pacific
Standard Time,
tigers@autox.team.net writes:

Just  noticed it apparently
sold for  $187,000

http://www.rmauctions.com/lots/lot.cfm?lot_id=1072247
Theo
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Vinyl dash
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Thanks,
   Jeff

On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:28 PM, Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net> wrote:

> According to TBON, approximately
> B9470400.
> Gary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 25, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Being too lazy to start a new thread, would any of you's guys know what
> the cut off is for vinyl dash on early mk1s. I thought it was 331 but not
> sure. Thanks
>    Jeff
>
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Gary Winblad via Tigers <
> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> And I might add..
>>
>> B9470622 does have both of these from the factory..
>> Gary
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
>> To: awtiger@cox.net, tigers@autox.team.net
>> Sent: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 16:09:28 -0000 (UTC)
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Need a couple of washers
>>
>> Andy
>>         I did not see if you got help with these.
>>
>> DC washer = double coil spring washer
>>
>> If you Google that name a number of sites pop up and hopefully one of them
>> sells them.
>>
>> Ron Fraser
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
>> awtiger---
>> via Tigers
>> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:56 AM
>> To: tigers@autox.team.net
>> Subject: [Tigers] Need a couple of washers
>>
>>
>> Hey, guys:
>>
>> Does anyone out there have a couple of what the parts book calls "D.C."
>> washers (double-coil)?  Specifically, I'm looking for the D.C. washer that
>> goes on the hood prop where it hooks to its swivel point on the car (I
>> think
>> this one is 5/16" in I.D.).  Also, isn't there one of these that's
>> supposed
>> to go on the hood latch mechanism under the pull rod slide that keeps the
>> slide at the correct height?  I would swear I've seen them on there before
>> on Tigers and Alpines but my car didn't have one and I can't find one in
>> the
>> parts book.
>>
>> Bottom line is that I am for sure in need of the one that goes on the prop
>> rod and, if there is supposed to be one on the hood latch mechanism, then
>> I
>> need it as well.  As usual, I appreciate any assistance.
>>
>> BTW...the engine & trans combo is finally going back in the car on
>> Saturday.
>> Wish me good luck!!!!!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andy Walker
>> Edmond, OK
>> B382001600LRXFE
>> TAC #740
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Vinyl dash
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My car (B9470334LRXFE) had an original wood dash when I got it.  The car 
was largely original with the original seats, etc.  It's possible a 
previous owner may have switched in the wood dash in place of a vinyl 
one, but, if so, I'd suspect that it wouldn't have made much sense to 
swap in the badly cracked and peeling original wood dash, so it would 
likely have either been pretty early in the car's history, or original 
to the car.

--Alex Haugland
B9470334LRXFE

On 1/25/2015 4:28 PM, Gary via Tigers wrote:
> According to TBON, approximately
> B9470400.
> Gary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 25, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Being too lazy to start a new thread, would any of you's guys know what the
> cut off is for vinyl dash on early mk1s. I thought it was 331 but not sure.
> Thanks
>>     Jeff
>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Gary Winblad via Tigers
> <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> And I might add..
>>>
>>> B9470622 does have both of these from the factory..
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
>>> To: awtiger@cox.net, tigers@autox.team.net
>>> Sent: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 16:09:28 -0000 (UTC)
>>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Need a couple of washers
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>          I did not see if you got help with these.
>>>
>>> DC washer = double coil spring washer
>>>
>>> If you Google that name a number of sites pop up and hopefully one of them
>>> sells them.
>>>
>>> Ron Fraser
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> awtiger---
>>> via Tigers
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:56 AM
>>> To: tigers@autox.team.net
>>> Subject: [Tigers] Need a couple of washers
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey, guys:
>>>
>>> Does anyone out there have a couple of what the parts book calls "D.C."
>>> washers (double-coil)?  Specifically, I'm looking for the D.C. washer that
>>> goes on the hood prop where it hooks to its swivel point on the car (I
> think
>>> this one is 5/16" in I.D.).  Also, isn't there one of these that's
> supposed
>>> to go on the hood latch mechanism under the pull rod slide that keeps the
>>> slide at the correct height?  I would swear I've seen them on there before
>>> on Tigers and Alpines but my car didn't have one and I can't find one in
> the
>>> parts book.
>>>
>>> Bottom line is that I am for sure in need of the one that goes on the prop
>>> rod and, if there is supposed to be one on the hood latch mechanism, then
> I
>>> need it as well.  As usual, I appreciate any assistance.
>>>
>>> BTW...the engine & trans combo is finally going back in the car on
> Saturday.
>>> Wish me good luck!!!!!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Andy Walker
>>> Edmond, OK
>>> B382001600LRXFE
>>> TAC #740
>>> _______________________________________________
>>>
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>>>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Vinyl dash
From: Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
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This would be a special pursuit to chase down.  It would be interesting to 
see the response from people in the B9470300 - B9470500 range.  I'd also be 
curious to know what prompted the change.  Was the wood dash intended from 
the start, but wasn't ready - and they went with vinyl??? When the wood 
dashes arrived did they dribble in??? And, were there still vinyl dashes 
left to use when they ran out of wood dashes???   All these scenarios could 
create a speckled application at the crossover period. But, still, it would 
be interesting to deduce. Chime in.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Alex Haugland via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 9:21 AM
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Vinyl dash

My car (B9470334LRXFE) had an original wood dash when I got it.  The car
was largely original with the original seats, etc.  It's possible a
previous owner may have switched in the wood dash in place of a vinyl
one, but, if so, I'd suspect that it wouldn't have made much sense to
swap in the badly cracked and peeling original wood dash, so it would
likely have either been pretty early in the car's history, or original
to the car.

--Alex Haugland
B9470334LRXFE

On 1/25/2015 4:28 PM, Gary via Tigers wrote:
> According to TBON, approximately
> B9470400.
> Gary
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jan 25, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Being too lazy to start a new thread, would any of you's guys know what 
>> the
> cut off is for vinyl dash on early mk1s. I thought it was 331 but not 
> sure.
> Thanks
>>     Jeff
>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Gary Winblad via Tigers
> <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>> And I might add..
>>>
>>> B9470622 does have both of these from the factory..
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
>>> To: awtiger@cox.net, tigers@autox.team.net
>>> Sent: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 16:09:28 -0000 (UTC)
>>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Need a couple of washers
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>          I did not see if you got help with these.
>>>
>>> DC washer = double coil spring washer
>>>
>>> If you Google that name a number of sites pop up and hopefully one of 
>>> them
>>> sells them.
>>>
>>> Ron Fraser
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> awtiger---
>>> via Tigers
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:56 AM
>>> To: tigers@autox.team.net
>>> Subject: [Tigers] Need a couple of washers
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey, guys:
>>>
>>> Does anyone out there have a couple of what the parts book calls "D.C."
>>> washers (double-coil)?  Specifically, I'm looking for the D.C. washer 
>>> that
>>> goes on the hood prop where it hooks to its swivel point on the car (I
> think
>>> this one is 5/16" in I.D.).  Also, isn't there one of these that's
> supposed
>>> to go on the hood latch mechanism under the pull rod slide that keeps 
>>> the
>>> slide at the correct height?  I would swear I've seen them on there 
>>> before
>>> on Tigers and Alpines but my car didn't have one and I can't find one in
> the
>>> parts book.
>>>
>>> Bottom line is that I am for sure in need of the one that goes on the 
>>> prop
>>> rod and, if there is supposed to be one on the hood latch mechanism, 
>>> then
> I
>>> need it as well.  As usual, I appreciate any assistance.
>>>
>>> BTW...the engine & trans combo is finally going back in the car on
> Saturday.
>>> Wish me good luck!!!!!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Andy Walker
>>> Edmond, OK
>>> B382001600LRXFE 
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The wood dash, wood wheel and deluxe door panels were all regular production items for the Alpine GT.
All it would take is a desire to change the BOM.
My guess is Rootes decided that they were charging a premium for the Tiger and adding the wood panel would make people feel like they were getting more for their money.

---- Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: 
> This would be a special pursuit to chase down.  It would be interesting to 
> see the response from people in the B9470300 - B9470500 range.  I'd also be 
> curious to know what prompted the change.  Was the wood dash intended from 
> the start, but wasn't ready - and they went with vinyl??? When the wood 
> dashes arrived did they dribble in??? And, were there still vinyl dashes 
> left to use when they ran out of wood dashes???   All these scenarios could 
> create a speckled application at the crossover period. But, still, it would 
> be interesting to deduce. Chime in.
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Alex Haugland via Tigers
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 9:21 AM
> To: tigers@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Vinyl dash
> 
> My car (B9470334LRXFE) had an original wood dash when I got it.  The car
> was largely original with the original seats, etc.  It's possible a
> previous owner may have switched in the wood dash in place of a vinyl
> one, but, if so, I'd suspect that it wouldn't have made much sense to
> swap in the badly cracked and peeling original wood dash, so it would
> likely have either been pretty early in the car's history, or original
> to the car.
> 
> --Alex Haugland
> B9470334LRXFE
> 
> On 1/25/2015 4:28 PM, Gary via Tigers wrote:
> > According to TBON, approximately
> > B9470400.
> > Gary
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 25, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Jeffery Randall <jefferyrandall@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Being too lazy to start a new thread, would any of you's guys know what 
> >> the
> > cut off is for vinyl dash on early mk1s. I thought it was 331 but not 
> > sure.
> > Thanks
> >>     Jeff
> >>
> >>> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Gary Winblad via Tigers
> > <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >>> And I might add..
> >>>
> >>> B9470622 does have both of these from the factory..
> >>> Gary
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> >>> To: awtiger@cox.net, tigers@autox.team.net
> >>> Sent: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 16:09:28 -0000 (UTC)
> >>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Need a couple of washers
> >>>
> >>> Andy
> >>>          I did not see if you got help with these.
> >>>
> >>> DC washer = double coil spring washer
> >>>
> >>> If you Google that name a number of sites pop up and hopefully one of 
> >>> them
> >>> sells them.
> >>>
> >>> Ron Fraser
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> > awtiger---
> >>> via Tigers
> >>> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:56 AM
> >>> To: tigers@autox.team.net
> >>> Subject: [Tigers] Need a couple of washers
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hey, guys:
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone out there have a couple of what the parts book calls "D.C."
> >>> washers (double-coil)?  Specifically, I'm looking for the D.C. washer 
> >>> that
> >>> goes on the hood prop where it hooks to its swivel point on the car (I
> > think
> >>> this one is 5/16" in I.D.).  Also, isn't there one of these that's
> > supposed
> >>> to go on the hood latch mechanism under the pull rod slide that keeps 
> >>> the
> >>> slide at the correct height?  I would swear I've seen them on there 
> >>> before
> >>> on Tigers and Alpines but my car didn't have one and I can't find one in
> > the
> >>> parts book.
> >>>
> >>> Bottom line is that I am for sure in need of the one that goes on the 
> >>> prop
> >>> rod and, if there is supposed to be one on the hood latch mechanism, 
> >>> then
> > I
> >>> need it as well.  As usual, I appreciate any assistance.
> >>>
> >>> BTW...the engine & trans combo is finally going back in the car on
> > Saturday.
> >>> Wish me good luck!!!!!
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Andy Walker
> >>> Edmond, OK
> >>> B382001600LRXFE 
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my MKi Tiger vin number B9470430 has a wood dash.
thanks heinz
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Hey all. A belated Happy New YearB I'm working on a concours car and wanted to
check if there are replica or NOS radiator caps available.I've run the parts
numbers from the Tiger parts list, but nothing.Thanks in advance.B Brian
Glenn

B9470208LRXFE GT
B9471101LRXFE
B9472615LRXFE
B382000846LRXFE
B382001212LRXFE
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Here are the probable answers:
http://www.sunbeamtiger.co.uk/Galleries/Classfieds/Forum/GT_Tiger.pdf


----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Vinyl dash

This would be a special pursuit to chase down.  It would be interesting to 
see the response from people in the B9470300 - B9470500 range.  I'd also be 
curious to know what prompted the change.  Was the wood dash intended from 
the start, but wasn't ready - and they went with vinyl??? When the wood 
dashes arrived did they dribble in??? And, were there still vinyl dashes 
left to use when they ran out of wood dashes???   All these scenarios could 
create a speckled application at the crossover period. But, still, it would 
be interesting to deduce. Chime in.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Alex Haugland via Tigers
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 9:21 AM
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Vinyl dash

My car (B9470334LRXFE) had an original wood dash when I got it.  The car
was largely original with the original seats, etc.  It's possible a
previous owner may have switched in the wood dash in place of a vinyl
one, but, if so, I'd suspect that it wouldn't have made much sense to
swap in the badly cracked and peeling original wood dash, so it would
likely have either been pretty early in the car's history, or original
to the car.

--Alex Haugland
B9470334LRXFE
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Hey, guys:

Can anyone tell me what type of hose clamp was used by the factory on the heater hose that runs from the water pump back to the "T" fitting on its way to the heater core?  All I need to know is what style the clamp was on the water pump outlet...Ford, 2 wire, etc...

I also need to know what type of hose clamp the factory used on the hose that runs from the temp sensor block to the heater control valve.  I only need to know about the temp sensor connection.  Since it's a 1/2" hose, I suspect that it was an English-style band clamp.  Is that correct?

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Andy

Water pump - Ford tower clamp - at the "T" it's a double wire clamp for that
hose
This hose is also clamped by the carb choke shield.

Temp block to valve - English style band clamp at both ends of that hose

Ron Fraser

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Subject: [Tigers] Correct hose clamp question


Hey, guys:

Can anyone tell me what type of hose clamp was used by the factory on the
heater hose that runs from the water pump back to the "T" fitting on its way
to the heater core?  All I need to know is what style the clamp was on the
water pump outlet...Ford, 2 wire, etc...

I also need to know what type of hose clamp the factory used on the hose
that runs from the temp sensor block to the heater control valve.  I only
need to know about the temp sensor connection.  Since it's a 1/2" hose, I
suspect that it was an English-style band clamp.  Is that correct?

Thanks,
Andy Walker
Edmond, OK
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A Quirky Car Collection on the Cape, in Red and Mostly British

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