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I store my Tiger=C2=A0 every winter=C2=A0 along with other other cars and m=
otorized lawnmowers, etc.=C2=A0 Each one gets stabilizer and Battery Tender=
.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Never use it during the summer when vehicles are being operat=
ed. Zero problems.=C2=A0=20
If there is a problem every few weeks and fuel tanks haven't been cleaned a=
nd treated, I would guess the problem couild be there.=C2=A0 In my case ver=
y little showed up in the filter. I had sediment that floated around and cu=
t off fuel delivery every once in a while. Shut car off, come back an hour =
later, sediment had settled, and car ran fine.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Mark L


In a message dated 8/19/2018 11:30:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, garywinblad=
@comcast.net writes:

=C2=A0
This problem is not just during the winter, its every couple weeks, year=20

round.
I did talk to a Mustang owner at Cars and Coffee that says he runs=20
stabilizer ALL the time...
and he didn't have problems.

It must be the Ethanol.=C2=A0 Is there any residual sugar in it??=C2=A0 The=
=20
problem is something that
clogs/sticks things up, but re-dissolves in a few hours...
What is in stabilizer?
Gary


On 8/18/2018 4:40 PM, coolvt--- via Tigers wrote:
> If you're not using fuel stabilizer when you put it away for the=20
> winter, you might try to see if that helps.=C2=A0 Mark L
>
> In a message dated 8/18/2018 6:20:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,=20
> tigers@autox.team.net writes:
>
> I guess I forgot to "reply all" on my email to Gary this morning. I=20
> usually turn off the fuel pump and let the engine run the carb dry=20
> when putting it away, but I guess there's enough fuel left to gum up=20
> some of the works in the carb. Reintroducing fuel to the bowl for a=20
> couple hours is enough to dissolve the goo and restore normal=20
> operation. It started and ran fine this morning, all ready for its=20
> yearly state inspection next week.=C2=A0 Problem solved, or at least=20
> understood.
>
> No choice down here in Massachusetts, ethanol (IIRC) is in all=20
> grades.=C2=A0 Maybe not in AV GAS, but I don't have access to that.
>
> Stu
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Dave Munroe <dave@munroe.ca
>
> Stu;
>
> Any chance you got into some ethanol-laced fuel? We don't have any
> ethanol in our high test fuel, so we all here in Nova Scotia with
> vintage cars, motorcycles and small yard equipment engines use
> high test in everything. I once took on a tank full containing
> ethanol in a neighboring Province, and put my car in storage for
> the winter. Exact same symptoms, but much more extensive - the
> ethanol phase-separated with the condensation in my entire fuel
> system, in my fuel tanks, fuel pump, fuel filters and the float
> bowl. You never want to ever have this happen to you.
>
> Might be a good idea to check your fuel filter(s).
>
> Good luck, I hope you have only your carb to deal with!
>
> Dave in Nova Scotia
> B382000450 (ex: Worcester, Mass. car)
>
>
> On 18 August 2018 at 11:14, Gary Winblad via Tigers
>
> Hi Stu,
> I am surprised that more people are not having this problem...
> On the other hand, maybe it is somehow related to 2bbl
> carbs...=C2=A0 my other car with a 600 Holley 4bbl
> (much newer Holley) doesn't seem to do it.. though I don't
> drive it for months at a time.
> When I first started having the problem, I learned to pit stop
> strip down the carb, look for problems,
> blow out all the little passages and re-install in like 20
> minutes. That fixed it and at first I was finding
> small problems that looked like that must have been it but
> after several "rebuilds" everything looked
> perfect everytime.. but it ran like yours when first
> started... WEIRD!
> My problem car is stock (except the Holley), original heater
> plate(?) and hoses, maybe that has something
> to do with it?
> Gary
>
> On 8/17/2018 6:13 PM, Stu via Tigers wrote:
>
> I think we have a winner.
>
> Was it Fuel flow?=C2=A0 It did this before in the spring.=C2=A0 I
> immediately tested this by running a hose from the pre
> carb filter to a can. Good flow, my Facet was pumping like
> crazy.=C2=A0 And the float level, rechecked this spring, is
> right on.=C2=A0 So that isn't it.
>
> Was it Ignition, maybe with some condensation? Back in the
> spring I used a spray bottle to soak the coil, cap, wires,
> etc. and then tried to start it.=C2=A0 No problem
>
> Also, both tonight and in the spring, the car started and
> idled fine after a couple hours.
>
> So I think Gary nailed it.=C2=A0 His description matches
> perfectly.=C2=A0 Despite my running the carb dry before putting
> it away for more than a day, stuff in the carb gets gummed
> up.=C2=A0 Reintroducing fuel for a few hours dissolves the crud
> and normal operation is restored.
>
> Stu
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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 font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;">
<div><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1=
2pt; color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff;">I store my Tiger&nbsp; eve=
ry winter&nbsp; along with other other cars and motorized lawnmowers, etc.&=
nbsp; Each one gets stabilizer and Battery Tender.&nbsp; &nbsp;Never use it=
 during the summer when vehicles are being operated. Zero problems.<br> </s=
pan></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 1=
2pt; color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff;">If there is a problem ever=
y few weeks and fuel tanks haven't been cleaned and treated, I would guess =
the problem couild be there.&nbsp; In my case very little showed up in the =
filter. I had sediment that floated around and cut off fuel delivery every =
once in a while. Shut car off, come back an hour later, sediment had settle=
d, and car ran fine.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Mark L=
<br><br></span></div>
</div>
In a message dated 8/19/2018 11:30:28 AM Eastern Standard Time, garywinblad=
@comcast.net writes:
<div><br></div>
This problem is not just during the winter, its every couple weeks, year <b=
r>round.<br>I did talk to a Mustang owner at Cars and Coffee that says he r=
uns <br>stabilizer ALL the time...<br>and he didn't have problems.<br><br>I=
t must be the Ethanol.&nbsp; Is there any residual sugar in it??&nbsp; The =
<br>problem is something that<br>clogs/sticks things up, but re-dissolves i=
n a few hours...<br>What is in stabilizer?<br>Gary<br><br><br>On 8/18/2018 =
4:40 PM, coolvt--- via Tigers wrote:<br>&gt; If you're not using fuel stabi=
lizer when you put it away for the <br>&gt; winter, you might try to see if=
 that helps.&nbsp; Mark L<br>&gt;<br>&gt; In a message dated 8/18/2018 6:20=
:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, <br>&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.=
net">tigers@autox.team.net</a> writes:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I guess I forgot to =
"reply all" on my email to Gary this morning. I <br>&gt; usually turn off t=
he fuel pump and let the engine run the carb dry <br>&gt; when putting it a=
way, but I guess there's enough fuel left to gum up <br>&gt; some of the wo=
rks in the carb. Reintroducing fuel to the bowl for a <br>&gt; couple hours=
 is enough to dissolve the goo and restore normal <br>&gt; operation. It st=
arted and ran fine this morning, all ready for its <br>&gt; yearly state in=
spection next week.&nbsp; Problem solved, or at least <br>&gt; understood.<=
br>&gt;<br>&gt; No choice down here in Massachusetts, ethanol (IIRC) is in =
all <br>&gt; grades.&nbsp; Maybe not in AV GAS, but I don't have access to =
that.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Stu<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 2:52 PM, =
Dave Munroe &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@munroe.ca">dave@munroe.ca</a> <br>&g=
t; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave@munroe.ca?">mailto:dave@munroe.ca</a>&gt;&gt;=
 wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Stu;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Any chance you got into some e=
thanol-laced fuel? We don't have any<br>&gt; ethanol in our high test fuel,=
 so we all here in Nova Scotia with<br>&gt; vintage cars, motorcycles and s=
mall yard equipment engines use<br>&gt; high test in everything. I once too=
k on a tank full containing<br>&gt; ethanol in a neighboring Province, and =
put my car in storage for<br>&gt; the winter. Exact same symptoms, but much=
 more extensive - the<br>&gt; ethanol phase-separated with the condensation=
 in my entire fuel<br>&gt; system, in my fuel tanks, fuel pump, fuel filter=
s and the float<br>&gt; bowl. You never want to ever have this happen to yo=
u.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Might be a good idea to check your fuel filter(s).<br>&g=
t;<br>&gt; Good luck, I hope you have only your carb to deal with!<br>&gt;<=
br>&gt; Dave in Nova Scotia<br>&gt; B382000450 (ex: Worcester, Mass. car)<b=
r>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On 18 August 2018 at 11:14, Gary Winblad via Tigers<=
br>&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net<=
/a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net?">mailto:tigers@autox.team.=
net</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Hi Stu,<br>&gt; I am surprised that =
more people are not having this problem...<br>&gt; On the other hand, maybe=
 it is somehow related to 2bbl<br>&gt; carbs...&nbsp; my other car with a 6=
00 Holley 4bbl<br>&gt; (much newer Holley) doesn't seem to do it.. though I=
 don't<br>&gt; drive it for months at a time.<br>&gt; When I first started =
having the problem, I learned to pit stop<br>&gt; strip down the carb, look=
 for problems,<br>&gt; blow out all the little passages and re-install in l=
ike 20<br>&gt; minutes. That fixed it and at first I was finding<br>&gt; sm=
all problems that looked like that must have been it but<br>&gt; after seve=
ral "rebuilds" everything looked<br>&gt; perfect everytime.. but it ran lik=
e yours when first<br>&gt; started... WEIRD!<br>&gt; My problem car is stoc=
k (except the Holley), original heater<br>&gt; plate(?) and hoses, maybe th=
at has something<br>&gt; to do with it?<br>&gt; Gary<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On 8/1=
7/2018 6:13 PM, Stu via Tigers wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I think we have a win=
ner.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Was it Fuel flow?&nbsp; It did this before in the spri=
ng.&nbsp; I<br>&gt; immediately tested this by running a hose from the pre<=
br>&gt; carb filter to a can. Good flow, my Facet was pumping like<br>&gt; =
crazy.&nbsp; And the float level, rechecked this spring, is<br>&gt; right o=
n.&nbsp; So that isn't it.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Was it Ignition, maybe with some=
 condensation? Back in the<br>&gt; spring I used a spray bottle to soak the=
 coil, cap, wires,<br>&gt; etc. and then tried to start it.&nbsp; No proble=
m<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Also, both tonight and in the spring, the car started and=
<br>&gt; idled fine after a couple hours.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; So I think Gary n=
ailed it.&nbsp; His description matches<br>&gt; perfectly.&nbsp; Despite my=
 running the carb dry before putting<br>&gt; it away for more than a day, s=
tuff in the carb gets gummed<br>&gt; up.&nbsp; Reintroducing fuel for a few=
 hours dissolves the crud<br>&gt; and normal operation is restored.<br>&gt;=
<br>&gt; Stu<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt=
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Recently deceased Tod Brown's Tiger Mk 1A was sold at auction, and his wido=
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Norm know who the new owner is.
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<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff;">Norm know who the new owner is.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff;">Can someone post Norm's e-dress please?</span></div>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] need Norm's e-dress
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Thank you very much
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Jim Armstrong
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In a message dated 9/14/2018 10:00:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, orr4sale@sb=
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Norm's contact info:
rootes1@earthlink.net
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] need Norm's e-dress
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Many thanks to all that responded about Uncle Norm.
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The ex-Tod Brown Tiger data has been forwarded to him.
=C2=A0
Jim Armstrong
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In a message dated 9/14/2018 12:21:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, twotigers@v=
erizon.net writes:

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Jim,
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Just now saw this- I=E2=80=99m sure people have already responded- his emai=
l is on his website: http://www.rootes1.com/
=C2=A0
Kirk
=C2=A0
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James Arms=
trong via Tigers
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:33 PM
To:tigers@autox.team.net
Cc:merrileeb@roadrunner.com
Subject: [Tigers] need Norm's e-dress
=C2=A0
Recently deceased Tod Brown's Tiger Mk 1A was sold at auction, and his wido=
w asked me to let=C2=A0
Norm know who the new owner is.
=C2=A0
Can someone post Norm's e-dress please?
=C2=A0
Jim Armstrong
Mk 1A
382002083 LRXFE
Code 86
TAC #....
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<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff;">Many thanks to all that responded about Uncle Norm.</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff;">The ex-Tod Brown Tiger data has been forwarded to him.</span></div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Jim,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">&nbsp;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Just now saw this- I&rsquo;m sure people have already responded- his email is on his website: <a target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://www.rootes1.com/</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> Tigers [<a>mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>James Armstrong via Tigers<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday, September 13, 2018 1:33 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> <a>tigers@autox.team.net</a><br><strong>Cc:</strong> <a>merrileeb@roadrunner.com</a><br><strong>Subject:</strong> [Tigers] need Norm's e-dress</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black; background: white;">Recently deceased Tod Brown's Tiger Mk 1A was sold at auction, and his widow asked me to let<br></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black; background: white;">Norm know who the new owner is.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial','sans-serif'; color: black; background: white;">Can someone post Norm's e-dress please?</span></p>
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Subject: [Tigers] Coil over shocks?
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Has anyone ever used coil over shocks in the rear of thier Tiger?
If so what kind fit, any mods necessary. I'm interested in rasing the rear
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Does anyone have a source for the interior front vinyl kick panels and
the upper rear interior side panels?
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Subject: [Tigers] Fwd:  Coil over shocks?
From: Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
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More info, The car has original springs, it has dropped down in the rear
especially on my side , I think it's a weight issue. I've had 15 inch
Panasport's on for some time with no isssues. And I had air shocks for
awhile, harsher ride, looked good though!  So, Mr King is probably wright
new springs and a good new rear shock will keep that tire off my fender..

Beau 9470951

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Jay Laifman <jay.laifman@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Coil over shocks?
To: Jim Buster <jbsyv@yahoo.com>
Cc: Lance Beauchamp <blance598@gmail.com>, tigers@autox.team.net <
tigers@autox.team.net>


Why?  Are you putting in larger diameter wheels?  Might look quite a bit
odd.  And similar sized wheels in front would hit when turning.

> On Sep 18, 2018, at 9:18 PM, Jim Buster via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net=
>
wrote:
>
> I think coil over shocks in addition to leaf springs goes into the
territory of =E2=80=98helper springs=E2=80=99. Usually for carrying a heavi=
er load.
Adjustable coil over shocks (where you can raise the ride height) will
pre-load the leaf springs and, in my opinion, result in a harsh ride and
possibly some irrational behavior of the rear end. Fitment may also be an
issue. Extended shackles may be your answer. 2 inches is quite a bit and
I=E2=80=99m not a fan of longer shackles but it will raise the body. Maybe =
someone
has had more experience with coil overs than I have. I use QA1 coil overs
on my street rod with a 4 link set up.
> Jim B
>
>> On Sep 18, 2018, at 3:56 PM, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <
tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone ever used coil over shocks in the rear of thier Tiger?
>> If so what kind fit, any mods necessary. I'm interested in rasing the
rear 2 to 3 inches
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<div dir=3D"auto">More info, The car has original springs, it has dropped d=
own in the rear especially on my side , I think it&#39;s a weight issue. I&=
#39;ve had 15 inch Panasport&#39;s on for some time with no isssues. And I =
had air shocks for awhile, harsher ride, looked good though!=C2=A0 So, Mr K=
ing is probably wright new springs and a good new rear shock will keep that=
 tire off my fender..<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Beau 947=
0951</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">---------- =
Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong class=3D"gmail_sendername" dir=
=3D"auto">Jay Laifman</strong> <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jay.=
laifman@gmail.com">jay.laifman@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>Date: Wed, Sep 1=
9, 2018, 1:51 AM<br>Subject: Re: [Tigers]  Coil over shocks?<br>To: Jim Bus=
ter &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jbsyv@yahoo.com">jbsyv@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>Cc: L=
ance Beauchamp &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:blance598@gmail.com">blance598@gmail.c=
om</a>&gt;, <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net<=
/a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&=
gt;<br></div><br><br>Why?=C2=A0 Are you putting in larger diameter wheels?=
=C2=A0 Might look quite a bit odd.=C2=A0 And similar sized wheels in front =
would hit when turning. <br>
<br>
&gt; On Sep 18, 2018, at 9:18 PM, Jim Buster via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:tigers@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">tigers@autox=
.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I think coil over shocks in addition to leaf springs goes into the ter=
ritory of =E2=80=98helper springs=E2=80=99. Usually for carrying a heavier =
load. Adjustable coil over shocks (where you can raise the ride height) wil=
l pre-load the leaf springs and, in my opinion, result in a harsh ride and =
possibly some irrational behavior of the rear end. Fitment may also be an i=
ssue. Extended shackles may be your answer. 2 inches is quite a bit and I=
=E2=80=99m not a fan of longer shackles but it will raise the body. Maybe s=
omeone has had more experience with coil overs than I have. I use QA1 coil =
overs on my street rod with a 4 link set up. <br>
&gt; Jim B<br>
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&gt;&gt; Has anyone ever used coil over shocks in the rear of thier Tiger? =
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Coil over shocks?
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Hi Lance,


I had the rear springs re-arched and raised the rear-end about three (3) inches.  It cost less than $100.


Tym McDowell

 

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>     Has anyone ever used coil over shocks in the rear of thier Tiger? 
>     If so what kind fit, any mods necessary. I'm interested in rasing the rear 2 to 3 inches
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 I expect you can find these items at either Sunbeam Specialties (CA) or Cl=
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        <div>I expect you can find these items at either Sunbeam Specialties (CA) or Classic Sunbeam (NY).</div><div><br></div><div>Randy</div><div><br></div><div>B38202349</div><div><br></div>
        
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<div><font size="2" face="Arial"><span class="yiv8166184943444425512-19092018">Does anyone have a 
source for the interior front vinyl kick panels and the upper rear interior side 
panels?</span></font></div>
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Bob:


When I was freshening my Mk1A a few years ago, I bought all my interior panels from Rick at Sunbeam Specialties.  Surely he still offers them.


Andy Walker

Edmond, OK

B382001600LRXFE

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> On September 19, 2018 at 9:03 AM "Robert J. Wanty via Tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
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>     Thanks
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nd, OK</p><p>B382001600LRXFE</p><p>TAC #740</p><blockquote type=3D"cite">On=
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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 09:22:53 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fwd:  Coil over shocks?
From: Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
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Lots of aspects factor into rubbing.  You stated originally there was no ru=
bbing. And, you thought it might be a weight issue. If so removed what must=
 be the added weight. If it is spring sag then they will need to be replace=
d or re-arced. Perhaps a leaf is broken???  There is the possibility that t=
he Panhard rod bushings have worn. Thus the prescribed arc of the Panhard r=
od is no longer holding the tires off an area..., or the slop is allowing t=
he axle to move and rub.

What type of driving causes the rub. Bumps, turning? Where are the tires ru=
bbing? Inner fender (and if there on the inside or outside wall). Or is it =
the wheel opening lip that is rubbing? If it is the wheel opening lip there=
 are services that can deal with this and generally not affect the paint. W=
hat is the wheel offset and the tire size? You might be near the edge of sl=
im margins.  Longer shackles may flex even more and it will alter the pinio=
n angle and roll steer. I agree with a previous poster raising the rear of =
the Tiger upwards towards 2=E2=80=9D- 3=E2=80=9D is excessive.




  From: Lance Beauchamp via Tigers 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 6:29 AM
To: tigers@autox.team.net 
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: Coil over shocks?

More info, The car has original springs, it has dropped down in the rear es=
pecially on my side , I think it's a weight issue. I've had 15 inch Panaspo=
rt's on for some time with no isssues. And I had air shocks for awhile, har=
sher ride, looked good though!  So, Mr King is probably wright new springs =
and a good new rear shock will keep that tire off my fender.. 

Beau 9470951

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Jay Laifman <jay.laifman@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Coil over shocks?
To: Jim Buster <jbsyv@yahoo.com>
Cc: Lance Beauchamp <blance598@gmail.com>, tigers@autox.team.net <tigers@au=
tox.team.net>



Why?  Are you putting in larger diameter wheels?  Might look quite a bit od=
d.  And similar sized wheels in front would hit when turning. 

> On Sep 18, 2018, at 9:18 PM, Jim Buster via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net=
> wrote:
> 
> I think coil over shocks in addition to leaf springs goes into the territ=
ory of =E2=80=98helper springs=E2=80=99. Usually for carrying a heavier loa=
d. Adjustable coil over shocks (where you can raise the ride height) will p=
re-load the leaf springs and, in my opinion, result in a harsh ride and pos=
sibly some irrational behavior of the rear end. Fitment may also be an issu=
e. Extended shackles may be your answer. 2 inches is quite a bit and I=E2=
=80=99m not a fan of longer shackles but it will raise the body. Maybe some=
one has had more experience with coil overs than I have. I use QA1 coil ove=
rs on my street rod with a 4 link set up. 
> Jim B
> 
>> On Sep 18, 2018, at 3:56 PM, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <tigers@autox.te=
am.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Has anyone ever used coil over shocks in the rear of thier Tiger? 
>> If so what kind fit, any mods necessary. I'm interested in rasing the re=
ar 2 to 3 inches


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<DIV>Lots of aspects factor into rubbing.&nbsp; You stated originally there=
 was 
no rubbing. And, you thought it might be a weight issue. If so removed what=
 must 
be the added weight. If it is spring sag then they will need to be replaced=
 or 
re-arced. Perhaps a leaf is broken???&nbsp; There is the possibility that t=
he 
Panhard rod bushings have worn. Thus the prescribed arc of the Panhard rod =
is no 
longer holding the tires off an area..., or the slop is allowing the axle t=
o 
move and rub.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>What type of driving causes the rub. Bumps, turning? Where are the tir=
es 
rubbing? Inner fender (and if there on the inside or outside wall). Or is i=
t the 
wheel opening lip that is rubbing? If it is the wheel opening lip there are=
 
services that can deal with this and generally not affect the paint. What i=
s the 
wheel offset and the tire size? You might be near the edge of slim 
margins.&nbsp; Longer shackles may flex even more and it will alter the pin=
ion 
angle and roll steer. I agree with a previous poster raising the rear of th=
e 
Tiger upwards towards 2=E2=80=9D- 3=E2=80=9D is excessive.</DIV>
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<DIV>More info, The car has original springs, it has dropped down in the re=
ar 
especially on my side , I think it's a weight issue. I've had 15 inch 
Panasport's on for some time with no isssues. And I had air shocks for awhi=
le, 
harsher ride, looked good though!&nbsp; So, Mr King is probably wright new =

springs and a good new rear shock will keep that tire off my fender.. 
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Beau 9470951</DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr>---------- Forwarded message ---------<BR>From: <STRONG 
class=3Dgmail_sendername>Jay Laifman</STRONG> <SPAN dir=3Dltr>&lt;<A 
href=3D"mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com">jay.laifman@gmail.com</A>&gt;</SPAN><=
BR>Date: 
Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 1:51 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Coil over shocks?<BR>To=
: Jim 
Buster &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:jbsyv@yahoo.com">jbsyv@yahoo.com</A>&gt;<BR>Cc=
: Lance 
Beauchamp &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:blance598@gmail.com">blance598@gmail.com</A=
>&gt;, 
<A href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</A> &lt;<A 
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</A>&gt;<BR></DI=
V><BR><BR>Why?&nbsp; 
Are you putting in larger diameter wheels?&nbsp; Might look quite a bit 
odd.&nbsp; And similar sized wheels in front would hit when turning. 
<BR><BR>&gt; On Sep 18, 2018, at 9:18 PM, Jim Buster via Tigers &lt;<A 
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel=3Dnoreferrer 
target=3D_blank>tigers@autox.team.net</A>&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I thi=
nk coil 
over shocks in addition to leaf springs goes into the territory of =E2=80=
=98helper 
springs=E2=80=99. Usually for carrying a heavier load. Adjustable coil over=
 shocks 
(where you can raise the ride height) will pre-load the leaf springs and, i=
n my 
opinion, result in a harsh ride and possibly some irrational behavior of th=
e 
rear end. Fitment may also be an issue. Extended shackles may be your answe=
r. 2 
inches is quite a bit and I=E2=80=99m not a fan of longer shackles but it w=
ill raise the 
body. Maybe someone has had more experience with coil overs than I have. I =
use 
QA1 coil overs on my street rod with a 4 link set up. <BR>&gt; Jim B<BR>&gt=
; 
<BR>&gt;&gt; On Sep 18, 2018, at 3:56 PM, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers &lt;<A=
 
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel=3Dnoreferrer 
target=3D_blank>tigers@autox.team.net</A>&gt; wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&g=
t; Has 
anyone ever used coil over shocks in the rear of thier Tiger? <BR>&gt;&gt; =
If so 
what kind fit, any mods necessary. I'm interested in rasing the rear 2 to 3=
 
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Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2018 13:02:01 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fwd: Coil over shocks?
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I know I said that.  But, now that I see these other posts, if the rear
springs are sagging that much, 2-3" might get it back to stock!

I would now add a different take.  Does anyone know how to make sure the
springs don't get re-arched too much?  Or replacement springs aren't too
high?

I'd hate for Lance to follow one of these suggestions and end up looking
like a 4x4 in the rear.

On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 12:25 PM Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net=
>
wrote:

> Lots of aspects factor into rubbing.  You stated originally there was no
> rubbing. And, you thought it might be a weight issue. If so removed what
> must be the added weight. If it is spring sag then they will need to be
> replaced or re-arced. Perhaps a leaf is broken???  There is the possibili=
ty
> that the Panhard rod bushings have worn. Thus the prescribed arc of the
> Panhard rod is no longer holding the tires off an area..., or the slop is
> allowing the axle to move and rub.
>
> What type of driving causes the rub. Bumps, turning? Where are the tires
> rubbing? Inner fender (and if there on the inside or outside wall). Or is
> it the wheel opening lip that is rubbing? If it is the wheel opening lip
> there are services that can deal with this and generally not affect the
> paint. What is the wheel offset and the tire size? You might be near the
> edge of slim margins.  Longer shackles may flex even more and it will alt=
er
> the pinion angle and roll steer. I agree with a previous poster raising t=
he
> rear of the Tiger upwards towards 2=E2=80=9D- 3=E2=80=9D is excessive.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 19, 2018 6:29 AM
> *To:* tigers@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Fwd: Coil over shocks?
>
> More info, The car has original springs, it has dropped down in the rear
> especially on my side , I think it's a weight issue. I've had 15 inch
> Panasport's on for some time with no isssues. And I had air shocks for
> awhile, harsher ride, looked good though!  So, Mr King is probably wright
> new springs and a good new rear shock will keep that tire off my fender..
>
> Beau 9470951
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Jay Laifman <jay.laifman@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 1:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Coil over shocks?
> To: Jim Buster <jbsyv@yahoo.com>
> Cc: Lance Beauchamp <blance598@gmail.com>, tigers@autox.team.net <
> tigers@autox.team.net>
>
>
> Why?  Are you putting in larger diameter wheels?  Might look quite a bit
> odd.  And similar sized wheels in front would hit when turning.
>
> > On Sep 18, 2018, at 9:18 PM, Jim Buster via Tigers <
> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >
> > I think coil over shocks in addition to leaf springs goes into the
> territory of =E2=80=98helper springs=E2=80=99. Usually for carrying a hea=
vier load.
> Adjustable coil over shocks (where you can raise the ride height) will
> pre-load the leaf springs and, in my opinion, result in a harsh ride and
> possibly some irrational behavior of the rear end. Fitment may also be an
> issue. Extended shackles may be your answer. 2 inches is quite a bit and
> I=E2=80=99m not a fan of longer shackles but it will raise the body. Mayb=
e someone
> has had more experience with coil overs than I have. I use QA1 coil overs
> on my street rod with a 4 link set up.
> > Jim B
> >
> >> On Sep 18, 2018, at 3:56 PM, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <
> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Has anyone ever used coil over shocks in the rear of thier Tiger?
> >> If so what kind fit, any mods necessary. I'm interested in rasing the
> rear 2 to 3 inches
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I know I said that.=C2=A0 But, now that I see these other =
posts, if the rear springs are sagging that much, 2-3&quot; might get it ba=
ck to stock!<div><br></div><div>I would now add a different take.=C2=A0 Doe=
s anyone know how to make sure the springs don&#39;t get re-arched too much=
?=C2=A0 Or replacement springs aren&#39;t too high?=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><=
br></div><div>I&#39;d hate for Lance to follow one of these suggestions and=
 end up looking like a 4x4 in the rear.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 12:25 PM Tom Witt via Tiger=
s &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt=
; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .=
8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Calibri&#39;;COLOR:#000000">
<div>Lots of aspects factor into rubbing.=C2=A0 You stated originally there=
 was=20
no rubbing. And, you thought it might be a weight issue. If so removed what=
 must=20
be the added weight. If it is spring sag then they will need to be replaced=
 or=20
re-arced. Perhaps a leaf is broken???=C2=A0 There is the possibility that t=
he=20
Panhard rod bushings have worn. Thus the prescribed arc of the Panhard rod =
is no=20
longer holding the tires off an area..., or the slop is allowing the axle t=
o=20
move and rub.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>What type of driving causes the rub. Bumps, turning? Where are the tir=
es=20
rubbing? Inner fender (and if there on the inside or outside wall). Or is i=
t the=20
wheel opening lip that is rubbing? If it is the wheel opening lip there are=
=20
services that can deal with this and generally not affect the paint. What i=
s the=20
wheel offset and the tire size? You might be near the edge of slim=20
margins.=C2=A0 Longer shackles may flex even more and it will alter the pin=
ion=20
angle and roll steer. I agree with a previous poster raising the rear of th=
e=20
Tiger upwards towards 2=E2=80=9D- 3=E2=80=9D is excessive.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>
<div>
<div><font face=3D"Tahoma"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZE:10pt"></font></font>=C2=
=A0</div></div></div>
<div>
<div>
<div><font face=3D"Tahoma"><font style=3D"FONT-SIZE:10pt"></font></font>=C2=
=A0</div></div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0=20
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">=
<b>From:</b>=20
<a title=3D"tigers@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">Lance=20
Beauchamp via Tigers</a> </div>
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt tahoma">
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND:#f5f5f5">
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 19, 2018 6:29 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"tigers@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:tigers@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Fwd: Coil over shocks?</div></div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">
<div>More info, The car has original springs, it has dropped down in the re=
ar=20
especially on my side , I think it&#39;s a weight issue. I&#39;ve had 15 in=
ch=20
Panasport&#39;s on for some time with no isssues. And I had air shocks for =
awhile,=20
harsher ride, looked good though!=C2=A0 So, Mr King is probably wright new=
=20
springs and a good new rear shock will keep that tire off my fender..=20
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Beau 9470951</div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr">---------- Forwarded message ---------<br>From: <strong cl=
ass=3D"gmail_sendername">Jay Laifman</strong> <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">jay.laifman@gmail.com</=
a>&gt;</span><br>Date:=20
Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 1:51 AM<br>Subject: Re: [Tigers] Coil over shocks?<br>To=
: Jim=20
Buster &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jbsyv@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank">jbsyv@yahoo=
.com</a>&gt;<br>Cc: Lance=20
Beauchamp &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:blance598@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">blan=
ce598@gmail.com</a>&gt;,=20
<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.tea=
m.net</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">ti=
gers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><br><br>Why?=C2=A0=20
Are you putting in larger diameter wheels?=C2=A0 Might look quite a bit=20
odd.=C2=A0 And similar sized wheels in front would hit when turning.=20
<br><br>&gt; On Sep 18, 2018, at 9:18 PM, Jim Buster via Tigers &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">tige=
rs@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; I think coil=20
over shocks in addition to leaf springs goes into the territory of =E2=80=
=98helper=20
springs=E2=80=99. Usually for carrying a heavier load. Adjustable coil over=
 shocks=20
(where you can raise the ride height) will pre-load the leaf springs and, i=
n my=20
opinion, result in a harsh ride and possibly some irrational behavior of th=
e=20
rear end. Fitment may also be an issue. Extended shackles may be your answe=
r. 2=20
inches is quite a bit and I=E2=80=99m not a fan of longer shackles but it w=
ill raise the=20
body. Maybe someone has had more experience with coil overs than I have. I =
use=20
QA1 coil overs on my street rod with a 4 link set up. <br>&gt; Jim B<br>&gt=
;=20
<br>&gt;&gt; On Sep 18, 2018, at 3:56 PM, Lance Beauchamp via Tigers &lt;<a=
 href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"=
>tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;&gt; <br>&gt;&gt; Has=20
anyone ever used coil over shocks in the rear of thier Tiger? <br>&gt;&gt; =
If so=20
what kind fit, any mods necessary. I&#39;m interested in rasing the rear 2 =
to 3=20
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Subject: [Tigers] Transmission's Speedometer Gear Clamp
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Anyone know what bolt diameter and thread pitch is used to bolt the
speedometer gear clamp on to the side of the transmission?  It has been 35
years since it was last disassembled and 42 years since I last assembled it
and I don't know what is needed anymore.  Accessing that bolt's hole is
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,=
sans-serif;font-size:small">Anyone know what bolt diameter and thread pitch=
 is used to bolt the speedometer gear clamp on to the side of the transmiss=
ion?=C2=A0 It has been 35 years since it was last disassembled and 42 years=
 since I last assembled it and I don&#39;t know what is needed anymore.=C2=
=A0 Accessing that bolt&#39;s hole is going to be a challenge.</div></div>

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5/16" coarse by about 3/4" long.
David

      From: Rob Hogan via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
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  =20
Anyone know what bolt diameter and thread pitch is used to bolt the speedom=
eter gear clamp on to the side of the transmission?=C2=A0 It has been 35 ye=
ars since it was last disassembled and 42 years since I last assembled it a=
nd I don't know what is needed anymore.=C2=A0 Accessing that bolt's hole is=
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Transmission's Speedometer Gear Clamp
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Rob       =20

                There seems to be a difference between the Parts Lists =
and the Ford catalog listing for this bolt.

=20

Parts List              6100563                Ford part #  20324-S8     =
 Bolt =E2=80=93 5/16 x .80 Hex

=20

Ford catalog       20324-S8              =C2=BC -20 x 5/8

=20

It=E2=80=99s been too long since I was working there to remember exactly =
the correct size bolt =E2=80=93 hopefully this will get you close.

=20

Ron Fraser=20

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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Rob Hogan via =
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Subject: [Tigers] Transmission's Speedometer Gear Clamp

=20

Anyone know what bolt diameter and thread pitch is used to bolt the =
speedometer gear clamp on to the side of the transmission?  It has been =
35 years since it was last disassembled and 42 years since I last =
assembled it and I don't know what is needed anymore.  Accessing that =
bolt's hole is going to be a challenge.


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=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 There seems to be a difference between =
the Parts Lists and the Ford catalog listing for this =
bolt.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Parts =
List=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Ford part #=C2=A0 =
20324-S8=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Bolt =E2=80=93 5/16 x .80 =
Hex<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ford catalog=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
20324-S8 =
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0=C2=BC -20 x 5/8<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>It=E2=80=99s =
been too long since I was working there to remember exactly the correct =
size bolt =E2=80=93 hopefully this will get you close.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
&lt;tigers-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Rob Hogan via =
Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 19, 2018 4:39 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Tiger's List =
&lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Transmission's =
Speedometer Gear Clamp<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif'>Anyone know =
what bolt diameter and thread pitch is used to bolt the speedometer gear =
clamp on to the side of the transmission?&nbsp; It has been 35 years =
since it was last disassembled and 42 years since I last assembled it =
and I don't know what is needed anymore.&nbsp; Accessing that bolt's =
hole is going to be a =
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Transmission's Speedometer Gear Clamp
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It's 1/4"-20 5/8" long. I verified it on my transmission which is out of
the car.

Thanks,
Joe Brown

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wrote:

> Anyone know what bolt diameter and thread pitch is used to bolt the
> speedometer gear clamp on to the side of the transmission?  It has been 35
> years since it was last disassembled and 42 years since I last assembled it
> and I don't know what is needed anymore.  Accessing that bolt's hole is
> going to be a challenge.
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<div dir=3D"auto">It&#39;s 1/4&quot;-20 5/8&quot; long. I verified it on my=
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=3D"auto">Thanks,</div><div dir=3D"auto">Joe Brown</div></div><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Sep 19, 2018, 8:06 PM Rob Hogan =
via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.n=
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<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:small">Anyone know what bolt diameter and thread pitch is used to bolt =
the speedometer gear clamp on to the side of the transmission?=C2=A0 It has=
 been 35 years since it was last disassembled and 42 years since I last ass=
embled it and I don&#39;t know what is needed anymore.=C2=A0 Accessing that=
 bolt&#39;s hole is going to be a challenge.</div></div>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Transmission's Speedometer Gear Clamp
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It is either 1/4-20 or 5/15-18.  The key to access is removing the little sheet metal panel on the side of the tranny hump.

Lift the carpet on the drivers side of the hump near the shifter. You will see the panel.  5 or so phillips screws later and you can see the trans cable and bolt.  It still ain't easy but it can be done.


Erich

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>     Anyone know what bolt diameter and thread pitch is used to bolt the speedometer gear clamp on to the side of the transmission?  It has been 35 years since it was last disassembled and 42 years since I last assembled it and I don't know what is needed anymore.  Accessing that bolt's hole is going to be a challenge.
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Transmission's Speedometer Gear Clamp
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I was going by the Rootes parts book, which is apparently wrong.
David


      From: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>
 To: D or G at sbc <orr4sale@sbcglobal.net>=20
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Transmission's Speedometer Gear Clamp
  =20
On mine it is 1/4-20 5/8" long. I verified it on my transmission which is o=
ut of the car.. There is also a Tiger bolt list on one of the Tiger website=
s that says it is 1/4-20.
On Sep 19, 2018 10:43 PM, "D or G at sbc via Tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net=
> wrote:

5/16" coarse by about 3/4" long.
David

      From: Rob Hogan via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
 To: Tiger's List <tigers@autox.team.net>=20
 Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 5:57 PM
 Subject: [Tigers] Transmission's Speedometer Gear Clamp
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Anyone know what bolt diameter and thread pitch is used to bolt the speedom=
eter gear clamp on to the side of the transmission?=C2=A0 It has been 35 ye=
ars since it was last disassembled and 42 years since I last assembled it a=
nd I don't know what is needed anymore.=C2=A0 Accessing that bolt's hole is=
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global.net&gt; <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> =
Wednesday, September 19, 2018 9:23 PM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bo=
ld;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Tigers] Transmission's Speedometer Gear Clamp=
<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1537407097669_50425"><br><div id=3D"yiv2545136092"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym=
19_1_1537407097669_50427"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537407097669_50426"=
>On mine it is 1/4-20 5/8" long. I verified it on my transmission which is =
out of the car.. There is also a Tiger bolt list on one of the Tiger websit=
es that says it is 1/4-20.</div><div class=3D"yiv2545136092gmail_extra" id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537407097669_50428"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D=
"yiv2545136092gmail_quote" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537407097669_50429">On =
Sep 19, 2018 10:43 PM, "D or G at sbc via Tigers" &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" s=
hape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" hr=
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_16_0_ym19_1_1537404210860_31892"><span id=3D"yiv2545136092m_89012925123387=
102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537404210860_31891">5/16" coarse by about 3/4" long.<=
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v2545136092m_89012925123387102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537404210860_31910" style=
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/b> Wednesday, September 19, 2018 5:57 PM<br clear=3D"none"> <b><span style=
=3D"font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Tigers] Transmission's Speedome=
ter Gear Clamp<br clear=3D"none">  </div> <div class=3D"yiv2545136092m_8901=
2925123387102y_msg_container" id=3D"yiv2545136092m_89012925123387102yui_3_1=
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012925123387102yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1537404210860_31916" style=3D"font-family:=
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read pitch is used to bolt the speedometer gear clamp on to the side of the=
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Hey,

I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and I
want to use a new carburetor.  The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on it
and I understand that something smaller will work better.

So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403
(500cfm).

Is anybody using a FiTech system?  I have a friend who is using the FiTech
Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.

Thanks,
Joe Brown

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n (original 260, no modifications) and I want to use a new carburetor.=C2=
=A0 The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on it and I understand that some=
thing smaller will work better.</div><div><br></div><div>So which is a bett=
er solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403 (500cfm).</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Is anybody using a FiTech system?=C2=A0 I have a friend wh=
o is using the FiTech Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.</div><=
div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Joe Brown</div></div>

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Any chance some of the Texas Tigers guys are still floating 
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 I've got the Fast EZ EFI in a Tigerized Husky and it is fabulous.=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 Got tired of the cold start and choke issues and now it runs great.=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 The system I used reuired a return line but some of the systems o=
ut there do not.
Doug Lyle

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igers@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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 Hey,
I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and I =
want to use a new carburetor.=C2=A0 The original owner had a Holley 650cfm =
on it and I understand that something smaller will work better.
So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403 =
(500cfm).
Is anybody using a FiTech system?=C2=A0 I have a friend who is using the Fi=
Tech Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.
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        <div>I've got the Fast EZ EFI in a Tigerized Husky and it is fabulo=
us.&nbsp;&nbsp; Got tired of the cold start and choke issues and now it run=
s great.&nbsp;&nbsp; The system I used reuired a return line but some of th=
e systems out there do not.</div><div><br></div><div>Doug Lyle<br></div><di=
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no modifications) and I want to use a new carburetor.&nbsp; The original ow=
ner had a Holley 650cfm on it and I understand that something smaller will =
work better.</div><div><br></div><div>So which is a better solution, a Holl=
ey 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403 (500cfm).</div><div><br></div><div>Is=
 anybody using a FiTech system?&nbsp; I have a friend who is using the FiTe=
ch Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.</div><div><br></div><div>=
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Hi Joe:

Were you thinking of throttle body or the multi-port fuel injection?

Just curious.

Best Regards

David Sosna

Tigerless for over a decade but still interested.


On 09/25/2018 12:22 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers wrote:
> Hey,
>
> I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) 
> and I want to use a new carburetor.  The original owner had a Holley 
> 650cfm on it and I understand that something smaller will work better.
>
> So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 
> 1403 (500cfm).
>
> Is anybody using a FiTech system?  I have a friend who is using the 
> FiTech Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
>
>
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    <p>Hi Joe:</p>
    <p>Were you thinking of throttle body or the multi-port fuel
      injection?</p>
    <p>Just curious.</p>
    <p>Best Regards</p>
    <p>David Sosna</p>
    <p>Tigerless for over a decade but still interested.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/25/2018 12:22 PM, Joe Brown via
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        <div>I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no
          modifications) and I want to use a new carburetor.  The
          original owner had a Holley 650cfm on it and I understand that
          something smaller will work better.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an
          Edelbrock 1403 (500cfm).</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Is anybody using a FiTech system?  I have a friend who is
          using the FiTech Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by
          it.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Thanks,</div>
        <div>Joe Brown</div>
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<html><head><style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style></head><body><div style="font-size: 13px;color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family: arial, sans-serif;">Use the Holley Carb selector:&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/carburetors/#Carburetor%20Selector</div><div><br></div><div>I used it for my 260 and it kicked up the smallest 4BBl Holley makes (390 cfm). I replaced a 650 cfm Holley with the 390 and it has never run better. It never ran nearly as well on the 650.</div><div><br></div><div>Bob Petrokas</div><div><br></div><div><br><br><blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 0px; border-left: #0000ff 2px solid; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial,sans-serif; color: black;">-----Original Message-----
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<br><br><div dir="ltr">Hey,<div><br></div><div>I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and I want to use a new carburetor.&nbsp; The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on it and I understand that something smaller will work better.</div><div><br></div><div>So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403 (500cfm).</div><div><br></div><div>Is anybody using a FiTech system?&nbsp; I have a friend who is using the FiTech Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Joe Brown</div></div>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Carb Question
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Thanks!

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 11:47 PM <mise2527@mypacks.net> wrote:

> Use the Holley Carb selector:
>
>
> https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/carburetors/#Carburetor%20Selector
>
> I used it for my 260 and it kicked up the smallest 4BBl Holley makes (390
> cfm). I replaced a 650 cfm Holley with the 390 and it has never run better.
> It never ran nearly as well on the 650.
>
> Bob Petrokas
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Brown via Tigers
> Sent: Sep 25, 2018 12:22 PM
> To: Tigers Den
> Subject: [Tigers] Carb Question
>
> Hey,
>
> I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and I
> want to use a new carburetor.  The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on it
> and I understand that something smaller will work better.
>
> So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403
> (500cfm).
>
> Is anybody using a FiTech system?  I have a friend who is using the FiTech
> Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
>
>

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<div dir=3D"auto">Thanks!=C2=A0</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div di=
r=3D"ltr">On Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 11:47 PM  &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mise2527@my=
packs.net">mise2527@mypacks.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-size:13px;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-famil=
y:arial,sans-serif">Use the Holley Carb selector:=C2=A0<div><br></div><div>=
<a href=3D"https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/carburetors/#Carbur=
etor%20Selector" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://www.holley.co=
m/products/fuel_systems/carburetors/#Carburetor%20Selector</a></div><div><b=
r></div><div>I used it for my 260 and it kicked up the smallest 4BBl Holley=
 makes (390 cfm). I replaced a 650 cfm Holley with the 390 and it has never=
 run better. It never ran nearly as well on the 650.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Bob Petrokas</div><div><br></div><div><br><br><blockquote style=3D"paddi=
ng-left:5px;margin-left:0px;border-left:#0000ff 2px solid;font-weight:norma=
l;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,s=
ans-serif;color:black">-----Original Message-----
<br>From: Joe Brown via Tigers <u></u>
<br>Sent: Sep 25, 2018 12:22 PM
<br>To: Tigers Den <u></u>
<br>Subject: [Tigers] Carb Question

<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Hey,<div><br></div><div>I will be rebuilding my en=
gine soon (original 260, no modifications) and I want to use a new carburet=
or.=C2=A0 The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on it and I understand tha=
t something smaller will work better.</div><div><br></div><div>So which is =
a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403 (500cfm).</d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Is anybody using a FiTech system?=C2=A0 I have a fri=
end who is using the FiTech Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.<=
/div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>Joe Brown</div></div>
<u></u><u></u></blockquote></div></div></div>
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In response to a question from Joe Brown - definitely the EDL-1403.  I put one in my Tiger after fighting a Holly for some time.  What a difference!  Great response out of the box.  Makes the car a joy to start and drive.

Best Regards,
Bob
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Today's Topics:

   1. Carb Question (Joe Brown)
   2. TEXAS TIGERS (Norman Miller)
   3. Re: Carb Question (Douglas Lyle)
   4. Re: Carb Question (David Sosna)
   5. Re: TEXAS TIGERS (Stephen Waybright)
   6. Re: Carb Question (mise2527@mypacks.net)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:22:42 -0500
From: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>
To: Tigers Den <Tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Carb Question
Message-ID:
        <CAKb_wfkXjzv6a_rwQx=mqtHUbCX3T18j6a_NZwrYhQ=UivMzCw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey,

I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and I
want to use a new carburetor.  The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on it
and I understand that something smaller will work better.

So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403
(500cfm).

Is anybody using a FiTech system?  I have a friend who is using the FiTech
Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.

Thanks,
Joe Brown
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:44:50 -0700
From: Norman Miller <rootes1@earthlink.net>
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] TEXAS TIGERS

Any chance some of the Texas Tigers guys are still floating
around?  I'd like to bend a couple of ears.

Norm



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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 00:16:04 +0000 (UTC)
From: Douglas Lyle <douglasalyle@yahoo.com>
To: Tigers Den <Tigers@autox.team.net>, Joe Brown
        <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Carb Question

 I've got the Fast EZ EFI in a Tigerized Husky and it is fabulous.?? Got tired of the cold start and choke issues and now it runs great.?? The system I used reuired a return line but some of the systems out there do not.
Doug Lyle

    On Tuesday, September 25, 2018, 4:38:57 PM PDT, Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

 Hey,
I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and I want to use a new carburetor.? The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on it and I understand that something smaller will work better.
So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403 (500cfm).
Is anybody using a FiTech system?? I have a friend who is using the FiTech Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 17:27:20 -0700
From: David Sosna <sosnaenergyconsulting@gmail.com>
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Carb Question

Hi Joe:

Were you thinking of throttle body or the multi-port fuel injection?

Just curious.

Best Regards

David Sosna

Tigerless for over a decade but still interested.


On 09/25/2018 12:22 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers wrote:
> Hey,
>
> I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications)
> and I want to use a new carburetor.? The original owner had a Holley
> 650cfm on it and I understand that something smaller will work better.
>
> So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock
> 1403 (500cfm).
>
> Is anybody using a FiTech system?? I have a friend who is using the
> FiTech Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 02:19:26 +0000 (UTC)
From: Stephen Waybright <gswaybright@yahoo.com>
To: tigers@autox.team.net, Norman Miller <rootes1@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] TEXAS TIGERS

My Tiger and I are in Houston, but guessing you're talking about the group up around Dallas?
Stephen Waybright


    On Tuesday, September 25, 2018, 8:03:34 PM CDT, Norman Miller via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

 Any chance some of the Texas Tigers guys are still floating
around?? I'd like to bend a couple of ears.

Norm

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 21:47:10 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
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I too got tired of carb issues and put the F.A.S.T. EZ EFI in my '65 Mark I=
 Tiger and I couldn't be happier. Starts at the flick of a key in any ambie=
nt conditions, idles better, etc.


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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Douglas Lyle via =
Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 5:16 PM
To: Tigers Den; Joe Brown
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Carb Question

I've got the Fast EZ EFI in a Tigerized Husky and it is fabulous.   Got tir=
ed of the cold start and choke issues and now it runs great.   The system I=
 used reuired a return line but some of the systems out there do not.

Doug Lyle

On Tuesday, September 25, 2018, 4:38:57 PM PDT, Joe Brown via Tigers <tiger=
s@autox.team.net> wrote:


Hey,

I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and I =
want to use a new carburetor.  The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on it=
 and I understand that something smaller will work better.

So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403 =
(500cfm).

Is anybody using a FiTech system?  I have a friend who is using the FiTech =
Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.

Thanks,
Joe Brown
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<p style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">I too got tired of carb i=
ssues and put the F.A.S.T. EZ EFI in my '65 Mark I Tiger and I couldn't be =
happier. Starts at the flick of a key in any ambient conditions, idles bett=
er, etc.&nbsp;
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<div>I've got the Fast EZ EFI in a Tigerized Husky and it is fabulous.&nbsp=
;&nbsp; Got tired of the cold start and choke issues and now it runs great.=
&nbsp;&nbsp; The system I used reuired a return line but some of the system=
s out there do not.</div>
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<div>Doug Lyle<br>
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<div>I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) a=
nd I want to use a new carburetor.&nbsp; The original owner had a Holley 65=
0cfm on it and I understand that something smaller will work better.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock =
1403 (500cfm).</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Is anybody using a FiTech system?&nbsp; I have a friend who is using t=
he FiTech Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Joe Brown</div>
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HelloJim Armstrong here. When i had my 260 rebuilt about 6/7 years ago, her=
e are the items I changed to:Edelbrock F4B, Holley 465, Comp Cam,=C2=A0 and=
 Pertornix ignitiion. Runs perfectly and looks stock. And its ever so much =
quicker than it was !Oh by the way, change the cam chain gear to solid meta=
l from=C2=A0 the nylon teeth on aluminum hub !!!From: Joe Brown <jbbrown198=
0@gmail.com>
To: Tigers Den <Tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Carb Question
Message-ID:
 <CAKb_wfkXjzv6a_rwQx=3DmqtHUbCX3T18j6a_NZwrYhQ=3DUivMzCw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey,

I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and I
want to use a new carburetor. The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on it
and I understand that something smaller will work better.

So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403
(500cfm).

Is anybody using a FiTech system? I have a friend who is using the FiTech
Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.

Thanks,
Joe Brown



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<blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: blue=
 2px solid;"><span style=3D"background-color: transparent; color: #000000; =
font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">Hello</span></blockquote>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: blue=
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<blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: blue=
 2px solid;"><span style=3D"background-color: transparent; color: #000000; =
font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">Jim Armstrong here. When i had my 26=
0 rebuilt about 6/7 years ago, here are the items I changed to:</span></blo=
ckquote>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: blue=
 2px solid;"><span style=3D"background-color: transparent; color: #000000; =
font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">Edelbrock F4B, Holley 465, Comp Cam,=
&nbsp; and Pertornix ignitiion. Runs perfectly and looks stock. And its eve=
r so much quicker than it was !</span></blockquote>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: blue=
 2px solid;"><span style=3D"background-color: transparent; color: #000000; =
font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">Oh by the way, change the cam chain =
gear to solid metal from&nbsp; the nylon teeth on aluminum hub !!!</span></=
blockquote>
</blockquote>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: blue=
 2px solid;"><span style=3D"background-color: transparent; color: #000000; =
font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">From: Joe Brown &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:jbbrown1980@gmail.com">jbbrown1980@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>To: Tigers Den &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net">Tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br=
>Subject: [Tigers] Carb Question<br>Message-ID:<br> &lt;CAKb_wfkXjzv6a_rwQx=
=3DmqtHUbCX3T18j6a_NZwrYhQ=3D<a href=3D"mailto:UivMzCw@mail.gmail.com">UivM=
zCw@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<b=
r><br>Hey,<br><br>I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no mod=
ifications) and I<br>want to use a new carburetor. The original owner had a=
 Holley 650cfm on it<br>and I understand that something smaller will work b=
etter.<br><br>So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an E=
delbrock 1403<br>(500cfm).<br><br>Is anybody using a FiTech system? I have =
a friend who is using the FiTech<br>Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears=
 by it.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Joe Brown</span></blockquote>
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Hey,

I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and I
want to use a new carburetor.  The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on it
and I understand that something smaller will work better.

So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403
(500cfm).

Is anybody using a FiTech system?  I have a friend who is using the FiTech
Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.

Thanks,
Joe Brown
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Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:44:50 -0700
From: Norman Miller <rootes1@earthlink.net>
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] TEXAS TIGERS

Any chance some of the Texas Tigers guys are still floating 
around?  I'd like to bend a couple of ears.

Norm



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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 00:16:04 +0000 (UTC)
From: Douglas Lyle <douglasalyle@yahoo.com>
To: Tigers Den <Tigers@autox.team.net>, Joe Brown
	<jbbrown1980@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Carb Question

 I've got the Fast EZ EFI in a Tigerized Husky and it is fabulous.?? Got tired of the cold start and choke issues and now it runs great.?? The system I used reuired a return line but some of the systems out there do not.
Doug Lyle

    On Tuesday, September 25, 2018, 4:38:57 PM PDT, Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Hey,
I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and I want to use a new carburetor.? The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on it and I understand that something smaller will work better.
So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403 (500cfm).
Is anybody using a FiTech system?? I have a friend who is using the FiTech Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.
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From: David Sosna <sosnaenergyconsulting@gmail.com>
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Carb Question

Hi Joe:

Were you thinking of throttle body or the multi-port fuel injection?

Just curious.

Best Regards

David Sosna

Tigerless for over a decade but still interested.


On 09/25/2018 12:22 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers wrote:
> Hey,
>
> I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) 
> and I want to use a new carburetor.? The original owner had a Holley 
> 650cfm on it and I understand that something smaller will work better.
>
> So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 
> 1403 (500cfm).
>
> Is anybody using a FiTech system?? I have a friend who is using the 
> FiTech Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
>
>
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From: Stephen Waybright <gswaybright@yahoo.com>
To: tigers@autox.team.net, Norman Miller <rootes1@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] TEXAS TIGERS

My Tiger and I are in Houston, but guessing you're talking about the group up around Dallas?
Stephen Waybright


    On Tuesday, September 25, 2018, 8:03:34 PM CDT, Norman Miller via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:  
 
 Any chance some of the Texas Tigers guys are still floating 
around?? I'd like to bend a couple of ears.

Norm

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Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 14:22:42 -0500<br>
From: Joe Brown &lt;<a href="mailto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com">jbbrown1980@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: Tigers Den &lt;<a href="mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net">Tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
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Hey,<br>
<br>
I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and I<br>
want to use a new carburetor.  The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on it<br>
and I understand that something smaller will work better.<br>
<br>
So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403<br>
(500cfm).<br>
<br>
Is anybody using a FiTech system?  I have a friend who is using the FiTech<br>
Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Joe Brown<br>
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To: <a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br>
Subject: [Tigers] TEXAS TIGERS<br>
<br>
Any chance some of the Texas Tigers guys are still floating <br>
around?  I'd like to bend a couple of ears.<br>
<br>
Norm<br>
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Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2018 00:16:04 +0000 (UTC)<br>
From: Douglas Lyle &lt;<a href="mailto:douglasalyle@yahoo.com">douglasalyle@yahoo.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: Tigers Den &lt;<a href="mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net">Tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;, Joe Brown<br>
	&lt;<a href="mailto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com">jbbrown1980@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Carb Question<br>
<br>
 I've got the Fast EZ EFI in a Tigerized Husky and it is fabulous.?? Got tired of the cold start and choke issues and now it runs great.?? The system I used reuired a return line but some of the systems out there do not.<br>
Doug Lyle<br>
<br>
    On Tuesday, September 25, 2018, 4:38:57 PM PDT, Joe Brown via Tigers &lt;<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:  <br>
 <br>
 Hey,<br>
I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and I want to use a new carburetor.? The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on it and I understand that something smaller will work better.<br>
So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403 (500cfm).<br>
Is anybody using a FiTech system?? I have a friend who is using the FiTech Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.<br>
Thanks,Joe Brown_______________________________________________<br>
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Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2018 17:27:20 -0700<br>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Carb Question<br>
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Hi Joe:<br>
<br>
Were you thinking of throttle body or the multi-port fuel injection?<br>
<br>
Just curious.<br>
<br>
Best Regards<br>
<br>
David Sosna<br>
<br>
Tigerless for over a decade but still interested.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 09/25/2018 12:22 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers wrote:<br>
&gt; Hey,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) <br>
&gt; and I want to use a new carburetor.? The original owner had a Holley <br>
&gt; 650cfm on it and I understand that something smaller will work better.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock <br>
&gt; 1403 (500cfm).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Is anybody using a FiTech system?? I have a friend who is using the <br>
&gt; FiTech Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt; Joe Brown<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
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My Tiger and I are in Houston, but guessing you're talking about the group up around Dallas?<br>
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    On Tuesday, September 25, 2018, 8:03:34 PM CDT, Norman Miller via Tigers &lt;<a href="mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:  <br>
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<br>
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Ford changed to the nylon teeth on aluminum hub in March 1965.

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This change will be in the B19KC 260 engines and all the Mk II engines.

=20

Those nylon teeth cam gears will fail and leave you stranded so change =
them when you see them on any engine.

=20

Ron Fraser

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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of James =
Armstrong via Tigers
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 3:14 PM
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] engine rebuild

=20

=20

Hello

Jim Armstrong here. When i had my 260 rebuilt about 6/7 years ago, here =
are the items I changed to:

Edelbrock F4B, Holley 465, Comp Cam,  and Pertornix ignitiion. Runs =
perfectly and looks stock. And its ever so much quicker than it was !

Oh by the way, change the cam chain gear to solid metal from  the nylon =
teeth on aluminum hub !!!

Subject: [Tigers] Carb Question
Message-ID:
<CAKb_wfkXjzv6a_rwQx=3DmqtHUbCX3T18j6a_NZwrYhQ=3DUivMzCw@mail.gmail.com =

Hey,

I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and =
I
want to use a new carburetor. The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on =
it
and I understand that something smaller will work better.

So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock =
1403
(500cfm).

Is anybody using a FiTech system? I have a friend who is using the =
FiTech
Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.

Thanks,
Joe Brown

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see them on any engine.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
&lt;tigers-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>James =
Armstrong via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 26, 2018 3:14 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> tigers@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] =
engine rebuild<o:p></o:p></p><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Jim=
 Armstrong here. When i had my 260 rebuilt about 6/7 years ago, here are =
the items I changed to:</span><span =
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!</span><span =
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style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Oh =
by the way, change the cam chain gear to solid metal from&nbsp; the =
nylon teeth on aluminum hub !!!</span><span =
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m: Joe Brown &lt;<a =
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: Tigers Den &lt;<a =
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engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and I<br>want to use a new =
carburetor. The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on it<br>and I =
understand that something smaller will work better.<br><br>So which is a =
better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock =
1403<br>(500cfm).<br><br>Is anybody using a FiTech system? I have a =
friend who is using the FiTech<br>Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he =
swears by it.<br><br>Thanks,<br>Joe Brown</span><span =
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Carb Question
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I've been considering doing an Throttle body EFI conversion. How difficult =
was the conversion to the FAST setup?


Best regards,
Stephen Waybright

    On Wednesday, September 26, 2018, 11:50:54 AM CDT, Greg Oliver via Tige=
rs <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
=20
I too got tired of carb issues and put the F.A.S.T. EZ EFI in my '65 Mark I=
 Tiger and I couldn't be happier. Starts at the flick of a key in any ambie=
nt conditions, idles better, etc.=C2=A0



From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Douglas Lyle via =
Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 5:16 PM
To: Tigers Den; Joe Brown
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Carb Question=C2=A0I've got the Fast EZ EFI in a Tige=
rized Husky and it is fabulous.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Got tired of the cold start and=
 choke issues and now it runs great.=C2=A0=C2=A0 The system I used reuired =
a return line but some of the systems out there do not.
Doug Lyle

On Tuesday, September 25, 2018, 4:38:57 PM PDT, Joe Brown via Tigers <tiger=
s@autox.team.net> wrote:

Hey,
I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and I =
want to use a new carburetor.=C2=A0 The original owner had a Holley 650cfm =
on it and I understand that something smaller will work better.
So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403 =
(500cfm).
Is anybody using a FiTech system?=C2=A0 I have a friend who is using the Fi=
Tech Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.
Thanks,Joe Brown_______________________________________________

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<html><head></head><body><div><div><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: &quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;">I've been considering doing an Throttle body EFI conversion. How difficult was the conversion to the FAST setup?</span></span><br></div><div><br></div><div class="ydpb5788fd1signature"><div><br></div><div style="font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;"><span style="line-height:1.22;">Best regards,</span><br>Stephen Waybright<br></div></div></div><div><br></div>
        
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                    On Wednesday, September 26, 2018, 11:50:54 AM CDT, Greg Oliver via Tigers &lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;">I too got tired of carb issues and put the F.A.S.T. EZ EFI in my '65 Mark I Tiger and I couldn't be happier. Starts at the flick of a key in any ambient conditions, idles better, etc.&nbsp;
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 25, 2018 5:16 PM<br clear="none">
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<div>I've got the Fast EZ EFI in a Tigerized Husky and it is fabulous.&nbsp;&nbsp; Got tired of the cold start and choke issues and now it runs great.&nbsp;&nbsp; The system I used reuired a return line but some of the systems out there do not.</div>
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<div>On Tuesday, September 25, 2018, 4:38:57 PM PDT, Joe Brown via Tigers &lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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<div>I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and I want to use a new carburetor.&nbsp; The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on it and I understand that something smaller will work better.</div>
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<div>So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403 (500cfm).</div>
<div><br clear="none">
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<div>Is anybody using a FiTech system?&nbsp; I have a friend who is using the FiTech Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>Joe Brown</div>
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To: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Carb Question
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Are you trying to be authentic or do you just want the best fuel metering
system? As an engine builder I=E2=80=99ve used many different carbs in many
different applications. I use a gas analyzer to get mixture correct and
have found the Edelbrock (Carter) series easiest to tune. The 1403 500 CFM
is a great and responsive carb for anything under 250 hp.  However, they
are definitely more susceptible to gas boiling, and we all know how cool it
is under a Tiger bonnet!

The 1848 is what I think came on a LAT1 kit and worked well on the 260.
Also the Holley 570 Street Avenger works well on moderately breathed-upon
engines and tolerates more thermal input but comes way too rich out of the
box. Plus they need a full setup (butterfly position, accept pump, bowl
cleaning and float setup) before running, as do all new Holleys. There is
also a Street Demon with poly bowls that is claimed to run much cooler but
at 625 CFM is much too big for a 260.

There are many new FI systems out there and to me the biggest advantage is
cool recirculated fuel, instant tuning and tolerance of the poor quality
swill that comes out of the pump. I am thinking that I will install the
Holley Sniper kit on one of my Tigers this winter as it is the least
invasive system I=E2=80=99ve seen so far.


https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/sniper_efi/snip=
er_4bbl_tbi_kits/parts/550-516

Good luck!
Bugz


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> Hey,
>
> I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and =
I
> want to use a new carburetor.  The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on =
it
> and I understand that something smaller will work better.
>
> So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 140=
3
> (500cfm).
>
> Is anybody using a FiTech system?  I have a friend who is using the FiTec=
h
> Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
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<div><div dir=3D"auto">Are you trying to be authentic or do you just want t=
he best fuel metering system? As an engine builder I=E2=80=99ve used many d=
ifferent carbs in many different applications. I use a gas analyzer to get =
mixture correct and have found the Edelbrock (Carter) series easiest to tun=
e. The 1403 500 CFM is a great and responsive carb for anything under 250 h=
p.=C2=A0 However, they are definitely more susceptible to gas boiling, and =
we all know how cool it is under a Tiger bonnet!</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"auto">The 1848 is what I think came on a LAT1 kit and wo=
rked well on the 260. Also the Holley 570 Street Avenger works well on mode=
rately breathed-upon engines and tolerates more thermal input but comes way=
 too rich out of the box. Plus they need a full setup (butterfly position, =
accept pump, bowl cleaning and float setup) before running, as do all new H=
olleys. There is also a Street Demon with poly bowls that is claimed to run=
 much cooler but at 625 CFM is much too big for a 260.=C2=A0</div></div><di=
v dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">There are many new FI systems ou=
t there and to me the biggest advantage is cool recirculated fuel, instant =
tuning and tolerance of the poor quality swill that comes out of the pump. =
I am thinking that I will install the Holley Sniper kit on one of my Tigers=
 this winter as it is the least invasive system I=E2=80=99ve seen so far.=
=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br><a href=3D"ht=
tps://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/sniper_efi/sniper=
_4bbl_tbi_kits/parts/550-516">https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/=
fuel_injection/sniper_efi/sniper_4bbl_tbi_kits/parts/550-516</a><br></div><=
div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Good luck!</div><div dir=3D"au=
to">Bugz</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 7:47 PM Joe Brown via Tigers &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hey,<div><br>=
</div><div>I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modificati=
ons) and I want to use a new carburetor.=C2=A0 The original owner had a Hol=
ley 650cfm on it and I understand that something smaller will work better.<=
/div><div><br></div><div>So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465c=
fm) or an Edelbrock 1403 (500cfm).</div><div><br></div><div>Is anybody usin=
g a FiTech system?=C2=A0 I have a friend who is using the FiTech Go EFI 4 o=
n his old truck and he swears by it.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div>=
<div>Joe Brown</div></div>
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Pay attention Mk 1A and Mk 2 owners to info from Dr. Ron Fraser !!!
=C2=A0
 If you have the face of the engine off, CHANGE THE TIMING GEAR
FROM NYLON/ALUMINUM TO STEEL
It IS an interference engine.
=C2=A0
Jim Armstrong
From: rfraser@bluefrog.com
To: rollright@aol.com
Sent: 9/27/2018 6:22:27 PM Eastern Standard Time
Subject: RE: nylon teeth

Jim
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 It was one of those better ideas to quiet the chain noise.
I=E2=80=99m sure Ford tested it extensively and I=E2=80=99m sure it ran fin=
e for their tests but it did not take into account time, years of time.
=C2=A0
I don=E2=80=99t know when Ford changed back to steel, my reference material=
 only goes to 1969 and it still shows nylon teeth.
=C2=A0
Ron
=C2=A0
From: James Armstrong <rollright@aol.com>=20
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:59 PM
To:rfraser@bluefrog.com
Subject: Re: nylon teeth
=C2=A0
What idiots
=C2=A0
When did they go back to steel?
=C2=A0
Jim A
=C2=A0
In a message dated 9/27/2018 2:55:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, rfraser@blue=
frog.com writes:
=C2=A0
Jim
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Ford started using the nylon teeth on an aluminum hub March=
 1965; prior to that it was steel gears.
Ron
=C2=A0
From: James Armstrong <rollright@aol.com>=20
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 2:35 PM
To:rfraser@bluefrog.com
Subject: nylon teeth
=C2=A0

Do you mean they started using nylon teeth or changed from nylon teeth, Ron=
?
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
Jim Armstrong
Mk 1A
382002083 LRXFE
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<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff;">Pay attention Mk 1A and Mk 2 owners to info from Dr. Ron Fraser !!!</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff;"> If you have the face of the engine off, CHANGE THE TIMING GEAR</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff;">FROM NYLON/ALUMINUM TO STEEL</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff;">It IS an interference engine.</span></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><span style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; background-color: #ffffff;">Jim Armstrong</span></div>
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<blockquote style="padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; border-left: blue 2px solid;"><hr><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: small;"><span style="background-color: transparent; color: #000000; font-family: Arial; font-size: small;">From: rfraser@bluefrog.com<br>To: rollright@aol.com<br>Sent: 9/27/2018 6:22:27 PM Eastern Standard Time<br>Subject: RE: nylon teeth<br><br></span></span>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jim</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It was one of those better ideas to quiet the chain noise.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I&rsquo;m sure Ford tested it extensively and I&rsquo;m sure it ran fine for their tests but it did not take into account time, years of time.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I don&rsquo;t know when Ford changed back to steel, my reference material only goes to 1969 and it still shows nylon teeth.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ron</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong>From:</strong> James Armstrong &lt;<a href="mailto:rollright@aol.com">rollright@aol.com</a>&gt; <br><strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:59 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> <a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: nylon teeth</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black; background: white;">What idiots</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black;"><br></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black; background: white;">When did they go back to steel?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black; background: white;">Jim A</span></p>
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</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal">In a message dated 9/27/2018 2:55:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, <a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a> writes:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">Jim</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Ford started using the nylon teeth on an aluminum hub March 1965; prior to that it was steel gears.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">Ron</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">From:</span></strong> James Armstrong &lt;<a href="mailto:rollright@aol.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">rollright@aol.com</a>&gt; <br><strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">Sent:</span></strong> Thursday, September 27, 2018 2:35 PM<br><strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">To:</span></strong> <a href="mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a><br><strong><span style="font-family: 'Calibri',sans-serif;">Subject:</span></strong> nylon teeth</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">&nbsp;</p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Arial',sans-serif; color: black; background: white;"><br>Do you mean they started using nylon teeth or changed from nylon teeth, Ron?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><br></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><br></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">Jim Armstrong</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">Mk 1A</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">382002083 LRXFE</p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">Code 86</p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;">TAC #....</p>
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fwd: nylon teeth
From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
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The nylon teeth on the aluminum hub cam gear started in March 1965.

=20

The nylon teeth crack and break off with age and use

If you are working on an engine and you find the nylon teeth =E2=80=93 =
replace it before it fails completely and leaves you stranded somewhere.

=20

B19KC, A11KK, A22KK engines will have this nylon toothed gear

=20

All engines before March 1965 have the steel gears.

=20

I do not know when Ford stopped using this nylon gear and went back to =
steel.

=20

Ron Fraser

=20

=20

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of James =
Armstrong via Tigers
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 9:03 AM
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: nylon teeth

=20

Pay attention Mk 1A and Mk 2 owners to info from Dr. Ron Fraser !!!

=20

If you have the face of the engine off, CHANGE THE TIMING GEAR

FROM NYLON/ALUMINUM TO STEEL

It IS an interference engine.

=20

Jim Armstrong

  _____ =20

Sent: 9/27/2018 6:22:27 PM Eastern Standard Time
Subject: RE: nylon teeth

Jim

                It was one of those better ideas to quiet the chain =
noise.

I=E2=80=99m sure Ford tested it extensively and I=E2=80=99m sure it ran =
fine for their tests but it did not take into account time, years of =
time.

=20

I don=E2=80=99t know when Ford changed back to steel, my reference =
material only goes to 1969 and it still shows nylon teeth.

=20

Ron

=20

Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: nylon teeth

=20

What idiots

=20

When did they go back to steel?

=20

Jim A

=20

In a message dated 9/27/2018 2:55:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, =

=20

Jim

                Ford started using the nylon teeth on an aluminum hub =
March 1965; prior to that it was steel gears.

Ron

=20

Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 2:35 PM
Subject: nylon teeth

=20


Do you mean they started using nylon teeth or changed from nylon teeth, =
Ron?

=20

=20

Jim Armstrong

Mk 1A

382002083 LRXFE

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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>The nylon =
teeth on the aluminum hub cam gear started in March =
1965.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The nylon teeth crack and break off with age and =
use<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>If you are working on an engine =
and you find the nylon teeth =E2=80=93 replace it before it fails =
completely and leaves you stranded somewhere.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>B19KC, =
A11KK, A22KK engines will have this nylon toothed gear<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>All engines =
before March 1965 have the steel gears.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I do not =
know when Ford stopped using this nylon gear and went back to =
steel.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> =
Tigers &lt;tigers-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>James =
Armstrong via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, September 28, 2018 9:03 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> tigers@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Fwd: =
nylon teeth<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;back=
ground:white'>Pay attention Mk 1A and Mk 2 owners to info from Dr. Ron =
Fraser !!!</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;back=
ground:white'>If you have the face of the engine off, CHANGE THE TIMING =
GEAR</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;back=
ground:white'>FROM NYLON/ALUMINUM TO STEEL</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;back=
ground:white'>It IS an interference engine.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;back=
ground:white'>Jim Armstrong</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div =
class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><hr =
size=3D2 width=3D"100%" align=3Dcenter></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Fro=
m: <a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a><br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com">rollright@aol.com</a><br>Sent: =
9/27/2018 6:22:27 PM Eastern Standard Time<br>Subject: RE: nylon =
teeth</span><o:p></o:p></p><div =
id=3D"AOLMsgPart_2_bbd8e140-eb59-49d0-9b71-677f80e80cef"><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Jim<o:p></o:=
p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; It was one of those better ideas to quiet the chain =
noise.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I=E2=80=99m =
sure Ford tested it extensively and I=E2=80=99m sure it ran fine for =
their tests but it did not take into account time, years of =
time.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I =
don=E2=80=99t know when Ford changed back to steel, my reference =
material only goes to 1969 and it still shows nylon =
teeth.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ron<o:p></o:=
p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><strong><spa=
n style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></strong> James =
Armstrong &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com">rollright@aol.com</a>&gt; =
<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></strong> =
Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:59 PM<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>To:</span></strong> <a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a><br><strong>=
<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Subject:</span></strong> Re: =
nylon teeth<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;back=
ground:white'>What idiots</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;back=
ground:white'>When did they go back to =
steel?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;back=
ground:white'>Jim A</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>In a =
message dated 9/27/2018 2:55:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, <a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" =
target=3D"_blank">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a> writes:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid =
blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Jim<o:p></o:=
p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp; Ford started using the nylon teeth on an aluminum hub March 1965; =
prior to that it was steel gears.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Ron<o:p></o:=
p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><strong><spa=
n style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></strong> James =
Armstrong &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com" =
target=3D"_blank">rollright@aol.com</a>&gt; <br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></strong> =
Thursday, September 27, 2018 2:35 PM<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>To:</span></strong> <a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" =
target=3D"_blank">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a><br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Subject:</span></strong> =
nylon teeth<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black;back=
ground:white'><br>Do you mean they started using nylon teeth or changed =
from nylon teeth, Ron?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Jim =
Armstrong<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Mk =
1A<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>382002083 =
LRXFE<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Code =
86<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>TAC =
#....<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></di=
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>>>CHANGE THE TIMING GEAR FROM NYLON/ALUMINUM TO STEEL<<<

And for the small increase in cost, I=E2=80=99d recommend a roller chain ov=
er a link chain.

Examples (used 1965 Mustang in search - it list =E2=80=9C289 and up.=E2=80=
=9D If 260 is different please correct):
 https://www.summitracing.com/search/part-type/timing-chain-and-gear-sets/y=
ear/1965/make/ford/model/mustang?SortBy=3DDisplayPrice&SortOrder=3DAscendin=
g&tw=3Dtiming%20chain&sw=3Dtiming%20chain%20and%20gear%20sets

From: James Armstrong via Tigers 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 6:02 AM
To: tigers@autox.team.net 
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: nylon teeth

Pay attention Mk 1A and Mk 2 owners to info from Dr. Ron Fraser !!!

If you have the face of the engine off, CHANGE THE TIMING GEAR
FROM NYLON/ALUMINUM TO STEEL
It IS an interference engine.

Jim Armstrong

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  From: rfraser@bluefrog.com
  To: rollright@aol.com
  Sent: 9/27/2018 6:22:27 PM Eastern Standard Time
  Subject: RE: nylon teeth


  Jim

                  It was one of those better ideas to quiet the chain noise=
=2E

  I=E2=80=99m sure Ford tested it extensively and I=E2=80=99m sure it ran f=
ine for their tests but it did not take into account time, years of time.



  I don=E2=80=99t know when Ford changed back to steel, my reference materi=
al only goes to 1969 and it still shows nylon teeth.



  Ron



  From: James Armstrong <rollright@aol.com> 
  Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:59 PM
  To: rfraser@bluefrog.com
  Subject: Re: nylon teeth



  What idiots




  When did they go back to steel?




  Jim A




  In a message dated 9/27/2018 2:55:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, rfraser@bl=
uefrog.com writes:



    Jim

                    Ford started using the nylon teeth on an aluminum hub M=
arch 1965; prior to that it was steel gears.

    Ron



    From: James Armstrong <rollright@aol.com> 
    Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 2:35 PM
    To: rfraser@bluefrog.com
    Subject: nylon teeth




    Do you mean they started using nylon teeth or changed from nylon teeth,=
 Ron?





    Jim Armstrong

    Mk 1A

    382002083 LRXFE

    Code 86

    TAC #....


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<DIV>&gt;&gt;&gt;<SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: "><FONT face=3DArial>=
<FONT 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">CHANGE THE TIMING GEAR </FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN=
 
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">FROM NYLON/ALUMINUM TO 
STEEL&lt;&lt;&lt;</FONT></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: ; COLOR: "><FONT size=3D2 
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>And for the small increase in cost, I=E2=80=99d recommend a roller cha=
in over a 
link chain.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Examples (used 1965 Mustang in search - it list =E2=80=9C289 and up.=
=E2=80=9D If 260 is 
different please correct):</DIV>
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=3DAscending&amp;tw=3Dtiming%20chain&amp;sw=3Dtiming%20chain%20and%20gear%2=
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=3Dtigers@autox.team.=
net 
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">James Armstrong via Tigers</A> </DIV>=

<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Friday, September 28, 2018 6:02 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dtigers@autox.team.net 
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> [Tigers] Fwd: nylon teeth</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV 
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<DIV><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR:=
 #000000; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">Pay 
attention Mk 1A and Mk 2 owners to info from Dr. Ron Fraser !!!</SPAN></DIV=
>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR:=
 #000000; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">If 
you have the face of the engine off, CHANGE THE TIMING GEAR</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR:=
 #000000; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">FROM 
NYLON/ALUMINUM TO STEEL</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR:=
 #000000; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">It 
IS an interference engine.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN 
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; COLOR:=
 #000000; BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff">Jim 
Armstrong</SPAN></DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3DquotedReply>
<BLOCKQUOTE 
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid">=

  <HR>
  <SPAN 
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: #000000; BACKGROUND=
-COLOR: transparent"><SPAN 
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: small; FONT-FAMILY: arial; COLOR: #000000; BACKGROUND=
-COLOR: transparent">From: 
  rfraser@bluefrog.com<BR>To: rollright@aol.com<BR>Sent: 9/27/2018 6:22:27 =
PM 
  Eastern Standard Time<BR>Subject: RE: nylon teeth<BR><BR></SPAN></SPAN>
  <DIV id=3DAOLMsgPart_2_bbd8e140-eb59-49d0-9b71-677f80e80cef>
  <DIV lang=3DEN-US class=3DaolReplacedBody>
  <DIV class=3DWordSection1>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>Jim</P>
  <P 
  class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
  It was one of those better ideas to quiet the chain noise.</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99m sure Ford tested it extensively and I=E2=
=80=99m sure it ran 
  fine for their tests but it did not take into account time, years of time=
=2E</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>I don=E2=80=99t know when Ford changed back to steel=
, my reference 
  material only goes to 1969 and it still shows nylon teeth.</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>Ron</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><STRONG>From:</STRONG> James Armstrong &lt;<A 
  href=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com">rollright@aol.com</A>&gt; 
  <BR><STRONG>Sent:</STRONG> Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:59 
  PM<BR><STRONG>To:</STRONG> <A 
  href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</A><BR><STRONG>=
Subject:</STRONG> 
  Re: nylon teeth</P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;</P>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN 
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; BACKGROUND: wh=
ite; COLOR: black">What 
  idiots</SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN 
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; COLOR: black">=
<BR></SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN 
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; BACKGROUND: wh=
ite; COLOR: black">When 
  did they go back to steel?</SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN 
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; COLOR: black">=
<BR></SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN 
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; BACKGROUND: wh=
ite; COLOR: black">Jim 
  A</SPAN></P></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN 
  style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; COLOR: black">=
<BR></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal>In a message dated 9/27/2018 2:55:56 PM Eastern Stan=
dard 
  Time, <A href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer"=
 
  target=3D_blank>rfraser@bluefrog.com</A> writes:</P>
  <DIV>
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  <DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE 
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    <DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">Jim</P>=

    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp; 
    Ford started using the nylon teeth on an aluminum hub March 1965; prior=
 to 
    that it was steel gears.</P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">Ron</P>=

    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">&nbsp;<=
/P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto"><STRONG=
><SPAN 
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri',sans-serif">From:</SPAN></STRONG> James=
 
    Armstrong &lt;<A href=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com" rel=3D"noopener nore=
ferrer" 
    target=3D_blank>rollright@aol.com</A>&gt; <BR><STRONG><SPAN 
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri',sans-serif">Sent:</SPAN></STRONG> Thurs=
day, 
    September 27, 2018 2:35 PM<BR><STRONG><SPAN 
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri',sans-serif">To:</SPAN></STRONG> <A 
    href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" 
    target=3D_blank>rfraser@bluefrog.com</A><BR><STRONG><SPAN 
    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri',sans-serif">Subject:</SPAN></STRONG> ny=
lon 
    teeth</P>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">&nbsp;<=
/P>
    <DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
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    style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial',sans-serif; BACKGROUND: =
white; COLOR: black"><BR>Do 
    you mean they started using nylon teeth or changed from nylon teeth, 
    Ron?</SPAN></P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">&nbsp;<=
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    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
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/P></DIV></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">Jim 
    Armstrong</P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">Mk 
1A</P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">3820020=
83 
    LRXFE</P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
    style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto">Code 
    86</P></DIV>
    <DIV>
    <P class=3DMsoNormal 
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Subject: [Tigers] Great article!
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I just found this in a 1962 Competition Press magazine.  Great read.

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Regarding Plastic cam gear teeth,=C2=A0 My 1979 351 failed at 143K miles.=
=C2=A0 Put steel gears in at that time.

I agree with Bugzy about the Edelbrock carb boiling.=C2=A0 I went back to a=
 new Holley 1848. I could not tolerate the poor start up and stalling on wa=
rm restart of the Edelbrock.

Tom calvert.


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2018 14:09:16 -0400
From: Mark Rense <mark44124@gmail.com>
To: Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>
Cc: Tigers Den <Tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Carb Question
Message-ID:
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 <CA+8dKTuoVztX+owZjWPYX4_iDdnO15JRcAFJrdaJTBQQfNjuqA@mai=
l.gmail.com>

Are you trying to be authentic or do you just want the best fuel metering
system? As an engine builder I?ve used many different carbs in many
different applications. I use a gas analyzer to get mixture correct and
have found the Edelbrock (Carter) series easiest to tune. The 1403 500 CFM
is a great and responsive carb for anything under 250 hp.=C2=A0 However, th=
ey
are definitely more susceptible to gas boiling, and we all know how cool it
is under a Tiger bonnet!

The 1848 is what I think came on a LAT1 kit and worked well on the 260.
Also the Holley 570 Street Avenger works well on moderately breathed-upon
engines and tolerates more thermal input but comes way too rich out of the
box. Plus they need a full setup (butterfly position, accept pump, bowl
cleaning and float setup) before running, as do all new Holleys. There is
also a Street Demon with poly bowls that is claimed to run much cooler but
at 625 CFM is much too big for a 260.

There are many new FI systems out there and to me the biggest advantage is
cool recirculated fuel, instant tuning and tolerance of the poor quality
swill that comes out of the pump. I am thinking that I will install the
Holley Sniper kit on one of my Tigers this winter as it is the least
invasive system I?ve seen so far.


https://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/sniper_efi/snip=
er_4bbl_tbi_kits/parts/550-516

Good luck!
Bugz


On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 7:47 PM Joe Brown via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net=
>
wrote:

> Hey,
>
> I will be rebuilding my engine soon (original 260, no modifications) and =
I
> want to use a new carburetor.=C2=A0 The original owner had a Holley 650cf=
m on it
> and I understand that something smaller will work better.
>
> So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 140=
3
> (500cfm).
>
> Is anybody using a FiTech system?=C2=A0 I have a friend who is using the =
FiTech
> Go EFI 4 on his old truck and he swears by it.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 09:02:58 -0400
From: James Armstrong <rollright@aol.com>
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: nylon teeth

Pay attention Mk 1A and Mk 2 owners to info from Dr. Ron Fraser !!!
?
 If you have the face of the engine off, CHANGE THE TIMING GEAR
FROM NYLON/ALUMINUM TO STEEL
It IS an interference engine.
?
Jim Armstrong
From: rfraser@bluefrog.com
To: rollright@aol.com
Sent: 9/27/2018 6:22:27 PM Eastern Standard Time
Subject: RE: nylon teeth

Jim
??????????????? It was one of those better ideas to quiet the chain noise.
I?m sure Ford tested it extensively and I?m sure it ran fine for their test=
s but it did not take into account time, years of time.
?
I don?t know when Ford changed back to steel, my reference material only go=
es to 1969 and it still shows nylon teeth.
?
Ron
?
From: James Armstrong <rollright@aol.com>=20
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:59 PM
To:rfraser@bluefrog.com
Subject: Re: nylon teeth
?
What idiots
?
When did they go back to steel?
?
Jim A
?
In a message dated 9/27/2018 2:55:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, rfraser@blue=
frog.com writes:
?
Jim
??????????????? Ford started using the nylon teeth on an aluminum hub March=
 1965; prior to that it was steel gears.
Ron
?
From: James Armstrong <rollright@aol.com>=20
Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 2:35 PM
To:rfraser@bluefrog.com
Subject: nylon teeth
?

Do you mean they started using nylon teeth or changed from nylon teeth, Ron=
?
?
?
Jim Armstrong
Mk 1A
382002083 LRXFE
Code 86
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:25:57 -0400
From: "Ron Fraser" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
To: <tigers@Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fwd: nylon teeth

The nylon teeth on the aluminum hub cam gear started in March 1965.

=20

The nylon teeth crack and break off with age and use

If you are working on an engine and you find the nylon teeth ? replace it b=
efore it fails completely and leaves you stranded somewhere.

=20

B19KC, A11KK, A22KK engines will have this nylon toothed gear

=20

All engines before March 1965 have the steel gears.

=20

I do not know when Ford stopped using this nylon gear and went back to stee=
l.

=20

Ron Fraser

=20

=20

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of James Armstrong v=
ia Tigers
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 9:03 AM
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: nylon teeth

=20

Pay attention Mk 1A and Mk 2 owners to info from Dr. Ron Fraser !!!

=20

If you have the face of the engine off, CHANGE THE TIMING GEAR

FROM NYLON/ALUMINUM TO STEEL

It IS an interference engine.

=20

Jim Armstrong

=C2=A0 _____=C2=A0=20

Sent: 9/27/2018 6:22:27 PM Eastern Standard Time
Subject: RE: nylon teeth

Jim

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 It was one of those=
 better ideas to quiet the chain noise.

I?m sure Ford tested it extensively and I?m sure it ran fine for their test=
s but it did not take into account time, years of time.

=20

I don?t know when Ford changed back to steel, my reference material only go=
es to 1969 and it still shows nylon teeth.

=20

Ron

=20

Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:59 PM
Subject: Re: nylon teeth

=20

What idiots

=20

When did they go back to steel?

=20

Jim A

=20

In a message dated 9/27/2018 2:55:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, rfraser@blue=

=20

Jim

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Ford started using =
the nylon teeth on an aluminum hub March 1965; prior to that it was steel g=
ears.

Ron

=20

Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 2:35 PM
Subject: nylon teeth

=20


Do you mean they started using nylon teeth or changed from nylon teeth, Ron=
?

=20

=20

Jim Armstrong

Mk 1A

382002083 LRXFE

Code 86

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tX+<a href=3D"mailto:owZjWPYX4_iDdnO15JRcAFJrdaJTBQQfNjuqA@mail.gmail.com" =
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tf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Are you trying t=
o be authentic or do you just want the best fuel metering<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">system? As an engine builder I?ve used many different carbs in man=
y<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">different applications. I use a gas analyzer to=
 get mixture correct and<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">have found the Edelbrock=
 (Carter) series easiest to tune. The 1403 500 CFM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">is a great and responsive carb for anything under 250 hp.&nbsp; However, =
they<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">are definitely more susceptible to gas boili=
ng, and we all know how cool it<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">is under a Tiger =
bonnet!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The 1848 is wh=
at I think came on a LAT1 kit and worked well on the 260.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">Also the Holley 570 Street Avenger works well on moderately breath=
ed-upon<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">engines and tolerates more thermal input =
but comes way too rich out of the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">box. Plus they =
need a full setup (butterfly position, accept pump, bowl<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">cleaning and float setup) before running, as do all new Holleys. T=
here is<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">also a Street Demon with poly bowls that =
is claimed to run much cooler but<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">at 625 CFM is m=
uch too big for a 260.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>There are many new FI systems out there and to me the biggest advantage is=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">cool recirculated fuel, instant tuning and toler=
ance of the poor quality<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">swill that comes out of =
the pump. I am thinking that I will install the<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">H=
olley Sniper kit on one of my Tigers this winter as it is the least<br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">invasive system I?ve seen so far.<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"https:=
//www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/sniper_efi/sniper_4bb=
l_tbi_kits/parts/550-516" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer">htt=
ps://www.holley.com/products/fuel_systems/fuel_injection/sniper_efi/sniper_=
4bbl_tbi_kits/parts/550-516</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr">Good luck!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bugz<br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, Sep 25, 20=
18 at 7:47 PM Joe Brown via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.=
net" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">t=
igers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">wrote:<br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Hey,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; I will be rebuilding my engine soon (o=
riginal 260, no modifications) and I<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; want to=
 use a new carburetor.&nbsp; The original owner had a Holley 650cfm on it<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; and I understand that something smaller will =
work better.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; =
So which is a better solution, a Holley 1848 (465cfm) or an Edelbrock 1403<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; (500cfm).<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Is anybody using a FiTech system?&nbsp; I have =
a friend who is using the FiTech<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Go EFI 4 on=
 his old truck and he swears by it.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt;<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Thanks,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; Joe Brown<br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">&gt; _______________________________________________=
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=3D"ltr">Message: 2<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 09:02:=
58 -0400<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: James Armstrong &lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:rollright@aol.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rollri=
ght@aol.com">rollright@aol.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: <a hre=
f=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: nylon teeth<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-=
ID: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:16620466ede-1ec4-d87@webjas-vaa053.srv.aolmail.ne=
t" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:16620466ede-1ec4-d87@webja=
s-vaa053.srv.aolmail.net">16620466ede-1ec4-d87@webjas-vaa053.srv.aolmail.ne=
t</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"ut=
f-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Pay attention Mk =
1A and Mk 2 owners to info from Dr. Ron Fraser !!!<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> If you have the face of the engine off, CHAN=
GE THE TIMING GEAR<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">FROM NYLON/ALUMINUM TO STEEL<b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">It IS an interference engine.<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim Armstrong<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">F=
rom: <a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ym=
ailto=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">To: <a href=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com" rel=3D"noopener nore=
ferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com">rollright@aol.com</a><br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: 9/27/2018 6:22:27 PM Eastern Standard Time<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: RE: nylon teeth<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">??????????????? It was o=
ne of those better ideas to quiet the chain noise.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">I?m sure Ford tested it extensively and I?m sure it ran fine for their te=
sts but it did not take into account time, years of time.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I don?t know when Ford changed back to=
 steel, my reference material only goes to 1969 and it still shows nylon te=
eth.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ron<br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: James Armstrong &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto=
:rollright@aol.com">rollright@aol.com</a>&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Se=
nt: Thursday, September 27, 2018 3:59 PM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To:<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">Subject: Re: nylon teeth<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">What idiots<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
When did they go back to steel?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Jim A<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">In a=
 message dated 9/27/2018 2:55:56 PM Eastern Standard Time, <a href=3D"mailt=
o:rfraser@bluefrog.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfras=
er@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a> writes:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">??????????????? =
Ford started using the nylon teeth on an aluminum hub March 1965; prior to =
that it was steel gears.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ron<br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: James Armstrong &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:rollright@aol.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rollrig=
ht@aol.com">rollright@aol.com</a>&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Thur=
sday, September 27, 2018 2:35 PM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To:<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rf=
raser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subj=
ect: nylon teeth<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Do you mean they started using nylon teeth or change=
d from nylon teeth, Ron?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr">?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim Armstrong<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mk =
1A<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">382002083 LRXFE<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Code=
 86<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">TAC #....<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">---------=
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/div><div dir=3D"ltr">Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:25:57 -0400<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">From: "Ron Fraser" &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" r=
el=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@=
bluefrog.com</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ti=
gers@Autox.Team.Net" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:tigers@A=
utox.Team.Net">tigers@Autox.Team.Net</a>&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subj=
ect: Re: [Tigers] Fwd: nylon teeth<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Message-ID: &l=
t;006d01d45747$f54c2650$dfe472f0$@bluefrog.com&gt;<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The nylon teeth on the aluminum hub cam gear starte=
d in March 1965.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">The nylon teeth crack and=
 break off with age and use<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">If you are working on an engine and you find the nylon teeth ? replac=
e it before it fails completely and leaves you stranded somewhere.<br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr">B19KC, A11KK, A22KK engines will have this nylon t=
oothed gear<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">All engines before March 1965 =
have the steel gears.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
 <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I do not know when F=
ord stopped using this nylon gear and went back to steel.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">Ron Fraser<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
tigers-bounces@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailt=
o:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; On B=
ehalf Of James Armstrong via Tigers<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Friday,=
 September 28, 2018 9:03 AM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: <a href=3D"mailto=
:tigers@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:tiger=
s@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subje=
ct: [Tigers] Fwd: nylon teeth<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Pay attenti=
on Mk 1A and Mk 2 owners to info from Dr. Ron Fraser !!!<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr">If you have the face of the engine off, CHANGE THE TIMING G=
EAR<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">FROM NYLON/ALUMINU=
M TO STEEL<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">It IS an in=
terference engine.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim Armstrong<br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; _____&nbsp; <br></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: <a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@b=
luefrog.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog=
.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefro=
g.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">=
rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: <a href=3D"mail=
to:rollright@aol.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rollrig=
ht@aol.com">rollright@aol.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:rollright@ao=
l.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com">rol=
lright@aol.com</a>&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: 9/27/2018 6:22:27 P=
M Eastern Standard Time<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: RE: nylon teeth<=
br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbs=
p; &nbsp; &nbsp; It was one of those better ideas to quiet the chain noise.=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I?m sure Ford tested =
it extensively and I?m sure it ran fine for their tests but it did not take=
 into account time, years of time.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I don?t=
 know when Ford changed back to steel, my reference material only goes to 1=
969 and it still shows nylon teeth.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ron<br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: James Armstrong &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
rollright@aol.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rollright@=
aol.com">rollright@aol.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.c=
om" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com">rollri=
ght@aol.com</a>&gt; &gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent: Thursday, Septemb=
er 27, 2018 3:59 PM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">To: <a href=3D"mailto:rfraser=
@bluefrog.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefr=
og.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluef=
rog.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com=
">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Subject: Re: nylo=
n teeth<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">What idiots<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">When did they go back to steel?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Jim A<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">In a message dated 9/27/2018 2:55:5=
6 PM Eastern Standard Time, <a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" rel=3D"=
noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefr=
og.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" rel=3D"noopen=
er noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com=
</a>&gt;&nbsp; writes:<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim<br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &n=
bsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Ford started using the nylon teeth on an aluminum hub Ma=
rch 1965; prior to that it was steel gears.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"ltr">Ron<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">From: James Arms=
trong &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com">rollright@aol.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:rollright@aol.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D"mail=
to:rollright@aol.com">rollright@aol.com</a>&gt; &gt; <br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2018 2:35 PM<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">T=
o: <a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymai=
lto=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a> &lt;mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com" rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" ymailto=3D=
"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com">rfraser@bluefrog.com</a>&gt; <br></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Subject: nylon teeth<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Do you mean they started using nylon teeth or changed from=
 nylon teeth, Ron?<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <b=
r></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"> <br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jim Armstrong<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mk 1A<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">382002083 LRXFE<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Code 86<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">TAC #....<b=
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I am familiar with that little aluminum Buick V8 but, never thought of it as an engine for the Tiger, conceptually. The 215 Buick-Rover engine was a little screamer. Thanks for the read! 
Jim

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Interesting article, never heard of it before...
Could the rumor have been because Rootes really was looking for a V8 (or 
more power) as early as 1962?
MG later revised the engine compartment in all MGBs to allow the (now 
Rover) MGB-V8... good engine.
Gary


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> Jim
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Interesting find. It has all the =E2=80=9CI heard it on the Internet=E2=80=
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I just found this in a 1962 Competition Press magazine.  Great read. 




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When I built my 302 (bored, stroked, blueprinted, etc) I added TrickFlow (aluminum heads) and an aluminum radiator.  They make all the difference.  My Tiger runs at 180 now - even when it's in the mid 90s outside.

Tym McDowell


> On September 29, 2018 at 1:42 PM "Russ and Tammy C. via Tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> 
> I have a 302 bored to 330 and it doesn't like slow running in the heat.  I am removing the engine this winter and could make some changes if warrented.   Will  clean up the engine compartment,  throw out bearing, clutch etc.  
> 
> Do aluminum heads run cooler than cast iron?
> 
>  Would I be well off to rebuild my very  old radiator  (stock) with copper or aluminum?  
> 
>    .     Russ -       rtscolgan@yahoo.com         Thanks again.  
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Have you achieved 330 with just boring and not stroke change??? Normally a
332 is done via stroke as well...

Wondering if you have created same issues as overboring 260 and 289 to
far.... They overheat as the bore walls get to thin and close to water
jackets

On Sun., 30 Sep. 2018, 04:10 Russ and Tammy C. via Tigers, <
tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

>
> I have a 302 bored to 330 and it doesn't like slow running in the heat.  I
> am removing the engine this winter and could make some changes if
> warrented.   Will  clean up the engine compartment,  throw out bearing,
> clutch etc.
>
> Do aluminum heads run cooler than cast iron?
>
>  Would I be well off to rebuild my very  old radiator  (stock) with copper
> or aluminum?
>
>    .     Russ -       rtscolgan@yahoo.com         Thanks again.
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<div dir=3D"auto">Have you achieved 330 with just boring and not stroke cha=
nge??? Normally a 332 is done via stroke as well...=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Wondering if you have created same issues as ov=
erboring 260 and 289 to far.... They overheat as the bore walls get to thin=
 and close to water jackets</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div =
dir=3D"ltr">On Sun., 30 Sep. 2018, 04:10 Russ and Tammy C. via Tigers, &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
I have a 302 bored to 330 and it doesn&#39;t like slow running in the heat.=
=C2=A0 I am removing the engine this winter and could make some changes if =
warrented.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Will=C2=A0 clean up the engine compartment,=C2=A0 th=
row out bearing, clutch etc.=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
Do aluminum heads run cooler than cast iron?<br>
<br>
=C2=A0Would I be well off to rebuild my very=C2=A0 old radiator=C2=A0 (stoc=
k) with copper or aluminum?=C2=A0 <br>
<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0 . =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Russ -=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 <a href=3D"ma=
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You can=E2=80=99t anywhere near 331 with boring alone. A .060 over block =
would be around 310 cu in. 60 over is ok but may be pushing it by some =
measures and could make it run hotter than a stock engine. But I =
wouldn=E2=80=99t worry about that too much if you have been driving it =
and the only issue is slow speed on hot days. The cooling system =
probably needs some TLC. De-scale the water jacket and flush the block =
out thoroughly. Where I live, refurbishing a stock radiator costs about =
as much as a direct replacement aluminum. There is a ton of stuff =
written about radiators on the forums. Blocking off the horn holes in =
the front bulkhead helps in stop and go traffic too. Aluminum heads do =
dissipate heat more quickly. And last but not least, you could install a =
pusher fan in front of the radiator. jmo
Jim B

> On Sep 29, 2018, at 4:50 PM, michael king via Tigers =
<tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>=20
> Have you achieved 330 with just boring and not stroke change??? =
Normally a 332 is done via stroke as well...=20
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> Wondering if you have created same issues as overboring 260 and 289 to =
far.... They overheat as the bore walls get to thin and close to water =
jackets
>=20
> On Sun., 30 Sep. 2018, 04:10 Russ and Tammy C. via Tigers, =
>=20
> I have a 302 bored to 330 and it doesn't like slow running in the =
heat.  I am removing the engine this winter and could make some changes =
if warrented.   Will  clean up the engine compartment,  throw out =
bearing, clutch etc. =20
>=20
> Do aluminum heads run cooler than cast iron?
>=20
>  Would I be well off to rebuild my very  old radiator  (stock) with =
copper or aluminum? =20
>=20
        Thanks again. =20
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can=E2=80=99t anywhere near 331 with boring alone. A .060 over block =
would be around 310 cu in. 60 over is ok but may be pushing it by some =
measures and could make it run hotter than a stock engine. But I =
wouldn=E2=80=99t worry about that too much if you have been driving it =
and the only issue is slow speed on hot days. The cooling system =
probably needs some TLC. De-scale the water jacket and flush the block =
out thoroughly. Where I live, refurbishing a stock radiator costs about =
as much as a direct replacement aluminum. There is a ton of stuff =
written about radiators on the forums. Blocking off the horn holes in =
the front bulkhead helps in stop and go traffic too. Aluminum heads do =
dissipate heat more quickly. And last but not least, you could install a =
pusher fan in front of the radiator. jmo<div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">Jim B<br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote =
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change??? Normally a 332 is done via stroke as well...&nbsp;<div =
dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D"">Wondering if you have created same issues as overboring 260 =
and 289 to far.... They overheat as the bore walls get to thin and close =
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I have a 302 bored to 330 and it doesn't like slow running in the =
heat.&nbsp; I am removing the engine this winter and could make some =
changes if warrented.&nbsp; &nbsp;Will&nbsp; clean up the engine =
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Hello,K- code Questions:

Two K- code Questions

1) What are the parts and changes that differentiate a K- code 289 from a standard or cooking variety 289?
2) Was a K- code 260 ever produced or even contemplated? If it was produced, what vehicles was it available in?

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This is from Bob Mannel's Book, Mustang and Ford Small Block V8 1962-1969:
Solid lifter cam
Threaded rocker arm studs and recessed spring seats
Free breathing header type exhaust manifolds
Dual point distributor
4 barrel, 480 cfm carb
Cast, higher strength flat top pistons
High nodular iron crankshaft
Forged steel connecting rods with 3/8" bolts
Forged steel exhaust valves
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There were also thicker main bearing caps and beefier rod end caps for the
3/8" bolts.
There are also a number of other parts like the harmonic balancer, timing
chain, cam gears and an extra little counter weight plus all the solid
lifter parts.
All the parts were handpicked and inspected to a higher standard for HiPo
engines.
I believe that covers the majority of the parts.

As far as I know no 260 was ever a HiPo type engine but that does not mean
Shelby American did not put HiPo parts on some of their 260 engines for the
Cobra program until the standard 289 HiPo was readily available.

Ron Fraser


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Hello,K- code Questions:

Two K- code Questions

1) What are the parts and changes that differentiate a K- code 289 from a
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Short and not exhaustive list.
Solid lifters
Distributor with no vacuum advance.
Thicker harmonic balancer.
Freer flowing exhaust manifolds.
Cylinder heads with a cast in spring pocket.

Never heard of a HIPO 260 in a Ford.  Early cobras might have had something but I am not up to speed on that car.

Erich
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Subject: [Tigers] Body shop references for Northern CA
From: Nathan Johnson via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
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So some bozo just cut me off and my front end is now crumpled in along with=
 my left front fender. Anybody have any recommendations for a body shop in =
Nor Cal (I live in Concord)? I=92d rather have the shop weld some Alpine fe=
nders in there so I don=92t have to worry about bondo but I really don=92t =
know much about body work.

Nathan
Mark 1A

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<div>So some bozo just cut me off and my front end is now crumpled in along=
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<div style=3D"direction: ltr;">Nathan</div>
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