From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 7 09:34:52 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47417A110B for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2020 09:34:52 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from sonic302-2.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com (unknown [74.6.135.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E2AA10CB for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2020 09:34:37 -0700 (MST) t=1578414877; bh=Cxadv7lGKtMFwYcEyfdaDdunqkl2VRSg9cp+YbKvGHM=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:From:Subject; b=EMleuYDYJHUlmrcKJ6omZvFqJ0R/EfNMDccSziBSputD8E/HACSvMHthwPnyINSkGjtbU+Ajq+p5k0jvch0qf5HOE4twd9TMF7W4XkdrurbkXZJ+rHdAtY66I1+3Vr3BYIcYHoRS4Dmn2EdOs08H/y8+fIsc5ar4TZt7vtABn3MYwXDr6Iv8JHNmQJ5Ki/mutc2CoMqMPwSi4WSfuP6Xes+TT8vAR5gy6zxmg74/QI0SQQBBfEkH46wMJiH3tJ7pkl2eKBifOAx2NUfDUiorf5I4AgfGdrgrLH0jaHqxVUF1jHzgEwe5Dwjc5KGk3SlREkaEUTBnFqZFt84o33rTGg== hAQbLkv8Ksd3k7_TGdORDxsI2l1KESmxTTmpIlsqrGdUQNfb5mIu45J87KcN3c8XW.r0DAQiaS78 nwRbdTarghB4G3oSy6Ej9jKHYrS5iWR0_6teYMw1LM4kKUGEZlmNYBJBL9wuJmrerZdB0MNwaTDW nwv3eG.O4KYEPtOz6Mp8a6ZpLrctkZeDIaEXN85y.ROOa3ueFHQDoagLeE2YFKG9Uf3sQFAQCuka ZXuelkJQDr_79vRrCxzyp5ilsHJJ0o09FKitZNvSdGcpTG9HnOYHeZ9gvGjx7VJnjTzEWelLgJse BvNjjZpmz7JeboMNfYsGGWF.reVtSKbf.qmsQht02r1rgExK8g5W0Qmu6Lc2RfavtS2PtIEnPL2u L81JXXIgEddIL04DFXWAcPxKT5X88IYYuDAwSQU8mxwYeIAwvLQPy4Res5FR0IPsdBn9B0_UKnmy oJTmqWu4.ltotJpXgunbxOWD.LZMt.WSU3G4_gx0au1zaKwakYjn8g0dXlOY4H4ay_LFz1XH6u9b dfkt2rOdXzk5U61Zb0UIBVsVaDZDnrot.6tevGxJO50rReEcv3svORU15Y8X2JQcSboSrokPeND8 tj54OVQaS2SHHlH81qFIfSbixDVrVhz.sWgmVnOz4KLkmlzzgzjuWG.JePhTwmuFqAXFwQMiAGg5 DfnIsUSQJx59fZAR.8gCUmj8p3WAHSvMjl65yyw0Te3sB7i5SrnqhDgDjD0bmbxRxgRQfil10WfX Zc0.frjPGeD9luOOAJlzj00Csh15Q3F0pc9aVTlGtgRIDqOVLmgPu.TPrZ_d2ZxpGcWiDzQVvt0T u.44oaFZdw4jE29UquiZSA02k_U236SppUnA0UoGRKuu7obVjhVcdB0Reyg6hh8iC9mHXqdQWbJq i8q6L7GzAD04DuQ_RR8yoqvsniGgAcVwvVsq6_y.ep_LK9KnfeYSe_K3EfhTRyjVLtPakgeXfm5H p6tvE6kBQGR6Croo8N9.jCrSEB3Pam3dFiYnG4xhyqILY0Ubyn_2A9hRX.wlVxD.ZqaAtkf2jCWE JbAiyTcMSAhk2AyTZn4zWCSwiazoXzL2.lApFm0MTyafGnMsuFrZoWoJ96Mxz1KV93dG_WOFSTp2 f7JjaEokTR7Zb.UEdnR_yhsAmypUYz67yrhO2lIVP06jSLjJqw3KnEZe0C3tVeEaCF1u0A2wf5PO F_6FcXzsJFvTSeDYIMZefSTCrXD6p8Sm8VKrrDm9njhyXN9MWai2xj.YQP6QtI_zy3le9m.bQUQ- - Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic302.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jan 2020 16:34:37 +0000 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 16:34:32 +0000 (UTC) To: tigers@autox.team.net References: <273289859.5229775.1578414872358.ref@mail.yahoo.com> Intel Mac OS X 10_14_6) AppleWebKit/605.1.15 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/13.0.3 Safari/605.1.15 Subject: [Tigers] British car colors from the 60's From: clyde mclaughlin via Tigers Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2002324834173255249== boundary="----=_Part_5229774_1948890013.1578414872357" ------=_Part_5229774_1948890013.1578414872357 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It looks like now the discussions on the correct green color has settled do= wn, I would like to add a comment based on dealership employment back in th= e early 70's. =C2=A0These comments apply to all the popular British marques= . =C2=A0In the early 60's thru late 70's the paint blending did not have th= e accuracies that exist today, that being said paint mixed in the morning p= robably didn't match exactly paint mixed in the afternoon after a "2 Pint" = lunch. =C2=A0The sales staff at one dealership I worked at would always com= ment on a load of 7 cars that were all ordered the same color, but none wer= e the same, especially the BRG ones. =C2=A0They would call the buyers in or= der of their deposits and they could come pick the one they liked the best.= =C2=A0That being said, which green or any other color for that matter is e= xactly correct is very subject to discussion and objectivity. We can all pr= obably agree to disagree, but just because you bought your car new and it h= as original paint, doesn't mean that someone else's car can't have the same= "correct" color but be a different shade. =C2=A0When it comes to Sunbeam c= olors I feel that some of the original colors need a little adjustment to r= eally look good, please I know that may offend a few purists, I mean no off= ense, its just my personal taste. =C2=A0 ------=_Part_5229774_1948890013.1578414872357 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It looks like now the discussi= ons on the correct green color has settled down, I would like to add a comm= ent based on dealership employment back in the early 70's.  These comm= ents apply to all the popular British marques.  In the early 60's thru= late 70's the paint blending did not have the accuracies that exist today,= that being said paint mixed in the morning probably didn't match exactly p= aint mixed in the afternoon after a "2 Pint" lunch.  The sales staff a= t one dealership I worked at would always comment on a load of 7 cars that = were all ordered the same color, but none were the same, especially the BRG= ones.  They would call the buyers in order of their deposits and they= could come pick the one they liked the best.  That being said, which = green or any other color for that matter is exactly correct is very subject= to discussion and objectivity. We can all probably agree to disagree, but = just because you bought your car new and it has original paint, doesn't mea= n that someone else's car can't have the same "correct" color but be a diff= erent shade.  When it comes to Sunbeam colors I feel that some of the = original colors need a little adjustment to really look good, please I know= that may offend a few purists, I mean no offense, its just my personal tas= te.  
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It also brings a sense of relief = being on 12/26/19 I stated, =E2=80=9CLike many things Tiger it might be = that each color batch was slightly different. And perhaps different UV = exposure and even waxing treatments alter the shade.=E2=80=9D And that = simply based on a hunch given other irregularities germane to Tigers. = Perhaps rather than arguing about who has the #86 color supremacy of = originality perhaps it can be seen as the =E2=80=9Cfamily=E2=80=9D of = #86=E2=80=99s and like with identical twins there are still subtle = differences. From: clyde mclaughlin via Tigers=20 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 8:34 AM To: tigers@autox.team.net=20 Subject: [Tigers] British car colors from the 60's It looks like now the discussions on the correct green color has settled = down, I would like to add a comment based on dealership employment back = in the early 70's. These comments apply to all the popular British = marques. In the early 60's thru late 70's the paint blending did not = have the accuracies that exist today, that being said paint mixed in the = morning probably didn't match exactly paint mixed in the afternoon after = a "2 Pint" lunch. The sales staff at one dealership I worked at would = always comment on a load of 7 cars that were all ordered the same color, = but none were the same, especially the BRG ones. They would call the = buyers in order of their deposits and they could come pick the one they = liked the best. That being said, which green or any other color for = that matter is exactly correct is very subject to discussion and = objectivity. We can all probably agree to disagree, but just because you = bought your car new and it has original paint, doesn't mean that someone = else's car can't have the same "correct" color but be a different shade. = When it comes to Sunbeam colors I feel that some of the original colors = need a little adjustment to really look good, please I know that may = offend a few purists, I mean no offense, its just my personal taste. =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers = http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend@verizon.net ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01D5C53C.E0A1D6F0 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A well stated and logical conclusion. It also brings a sense of = relief=20 being on 12/26/19 I stated, =E2=80=9CLike many things Tiger it might = be that each=20 color batch was slightly different. And perhaps different UV exposure = and even=20 waxing treatments alter the shade.=E2=80=9D And that simply based = on a hunch given=20 other irregularities germane to Tigers. Perhaps rather than arguing = about who=20 has the #86 color supremacy of originality perhaps it can be seen as the = =E2=80=9Cfamily=E2=80=9D of #86=E2=80=99s and like with identical twins = there are still subtle=20 differences.
 
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It looks like now the = discussions on=20 the correct green color has settled down, I would like to add a comment = based on=20 dealership employment back in the early 70's.  These comments apply = to all=20 the popular British marques.  In the early 60's thru late 70's the = paint=20 blending did not have the accuracies that exist today, that being said = paint=20 mixed in the morning probably didn't match exactly paint mixed in the = afternoon=20 after a "2 Pint" lunch.  The sales staff at one dealership I worked = at=20 would always comment on a load of 7 cars that were all ordered the same = color,=20 but none were the same, especially the BRG ones.  They would call = the=20 buyers in order of their deposits and they could come pick the one they = liked=20 the best.  That being said, which green or any other color for that = matter=20 is exactly correct is very subject to discussion and objectivity. We can = all=20 probably agree to disagree, but just because you bought your car new and = it has=20 original paint, doesn't mean that someone else's car can't have the same = "correct" color but be a different shade.  When it comes to Sunbeam = colors=20 I feel that some of the original colors need a little adjustment to = really look=20 good, please I know that may offend a few purists, I mean no offense, = its just=20 my personal taste. 

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------=_NextPart_000_0044_01D5C53C.E0A1D6F0-- --===============4137629138247552732== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net --===============4137629138247552732==-- From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 7 12:45:25 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11147A1145 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2020 12:45:25 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (unknown [209.86.89.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C94DA1110 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2020 12:45:20 -0700 (MST) s=dk12062016; t=1578426320; bh=eI2rFea+qLscqtiaF57vxvwArRI4ZJ35oXrH N4P7X+Y=; h=Received:From:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Mime-Version:Date:Subject:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer: X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; b=RUSc+bYi54QqfpkuZud0j5Ky71+EI04RX raOKyli3wxHbJ0DDCLM/XM53m2ViT1HS32pIsbYjQ7lVOp4UMsM9qVNOhsnlPa0pF2n aoq8O+FgP05JRGBTkKacfP3J4OYC/nphWbQJF/xRPqOkS7V2hvcCfZpFxXZVFjnUjwm bY+OWquwgD5oh+0OHgfOQPtiJGLmc+GG6J+QBIrFF841RoU31kjOWSs+SbN5fxUpihF 3ROtXEsGkAcxOR3Et8zN6SrojPkr+kkm8dtZbDElDkccN+ya84YR5NgSlILsK/j8k34 OXtU2nAC3EewRsCZ0M6Vd96SEE2SN2KfxK0wIjyEQ== DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk12062016; d=ix.netcom.com; b=mdBJHohnmjru1+f1Dt3whRu3c5zRS0bYkIiuaEEj+XoLQjOxNW2F34XxJnfDi5g55RKvHCIJoDzxbC22LUH8ABBJusR6tV6TmWC1xQsndOFqPhzt05mO8Y6Vac9oVHfQENrtIMHlg8f7G+xI8gxhSjekOjxCSzcvQeY7NWiN1j6GuzKleujKdB+RBO8GyaXfHSfOUmqXfLmDHYLWLBqhxTqjQL1Mr4JOmbloYXiSSEHDCdxAqWUrwZfUhTdG+Ci0Jozag553wFvrcU8MpafICu9Bj2Gi95Pui/tlr2zc0gDhuj0fUe7IOj1nzFpRLHxuS+ktpGwFJsbljynRmgn6Jg==; h=Received:From:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Mime-Version:Date:Subject:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [24.99.22.117] (helo=[192.168.1.217]) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4) (envelope-from ) id 1ioun1-0003UI-Sw for tigers@autox.team.net; Tue, 07 Jan 2020 14:45:19 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 14:45:19 -0500 References: To: Tiger List List Subject: [Tigers] Fwd: British car colors from the 60's From: Allan Ballard via Tigers Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1309698356494104396== boundary=Apple-Mail-9581A4BB-E0D8-4F61-B124-DB975F624C34 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-9581A4BB-E0D8-4F61-B124-DB975F624C34 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subtle differences? Sure.=20 Different shades? Probably not. Can a concours judge be expected to separate non-Rootes BRG from Forest Gree= n #86? Yes, I would think so. Allan Ballard Mk1a Tiger=20 Series I Alpine=20 Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: > From: Tom Witt via Tigers > Date: January 7, 2020 at 12:28:53 PM EST > To: > Subject: Re: [Tigers] British car colors from the 60's > Reply-To: Tom Witt >=20 > A well stated and logical conclusion. It also brings a sense of relief bei= ng on 12/26/19 I stated, =E2=80=9CLike many things Tiger it might be that ea= ch color batch was slightly different. And perhaps different UV exposure and= even waxing treatments alter the shade.=E2=80=9D And that simply based on a= hunch given other irregularities germane to Tigers. Perhaps rather than arg= uing about who has the #86 color supremacy of originality perhaps it can be s= een as the =E2=80=9Cfamily=E2=80=9D of #86=E2=80=99s and like with identical= twins there are still subtle differences. > =20 > From: clyde mclaughlin via Tigers > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 8:34 AM > To: tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] British car colors from the 60's > =20 > It looks like now the discussions on the correct green color has settled d= own, I would like to add a comment based on dealership employment back in t= he early 70's. These comments apply to all the popular British marques. In= the early 60's thru late 70's the paint blending did not have the accuracie= s that exist today, that being said paint mixed in the morning probably didn= 't match exactly paint mixed in the afternoon after a "2 Pint" lunch. The s= ales staff at one dealership I worked at would always comment on a load of 7= cars that were all ordered the same color, but none were the same, especial= ly the BRG ones. They would call the buyers in order of their deposits and t= hey could come pick the one they liked the best. That being said, which gre= en or any other color for that matter is exactly correct is very subject to d= iscussion and objectivity. We can all probably agree to disagree, but just b= ecause you bought your car new and it has original paint, doesn't mean that s= omeone else's car can't have the same "correct" color but be a different sha= de. When it comes to Sunbeam colors I feel that some of the original colors= need a little adjustment to really look good, please I know that may offend= a few purists, I mean no offense, its just my personal taste.=20 > _______________________________________________ >=20 > tigers@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archiv= e >=20 > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend@veriz= on.net >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ >=20 > tigers@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archiv= e >=20 > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/aballard@ix.netc= om.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-9581A4BB-E0D8-4F61-B124-DB975F624C34 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subtle differences? Sure. 

Different shades? Probably not.

Allan Ballard
Mk1a Tiger 
Series I A= lpine 

Sent from my iPhone

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A well stated and logical conclusion. It also brings a sense of relief=20= being on 12/26/19 I stated, =E2=80=9CLike many things Tiger it might be t= hat each=20 color batch was slightly different. And perhaps different UV exposure and ev= en=20 waxing treatments alter the shade.=E2=80=9D And that simply based on a h= unch given=20 other irregularities germane to Tigers. Perhaps rather than arguing about wh= o=20 has the #86 color supremacy of originality perhaps it can be seen as the=20 =E2=80=9Cfamily=E2=80=9D of #86=E2=80=99s and like with identical twins ther= e are still subtle=20 differences.
 
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Subject: [Tigers] British car colors from the 60's
 
It looks like now the discussi= ons on=20 the correct green color has settled down, I would like to add a comment base= d on=20 dealership employment back in the early 70's.  These comments apply to a= ll=20 the popular British marques.  In the early 60's thru late 70's the pain= t=20 blending did not have the accuracies that exist today, that being said paint= =20 mixed in the morning probably didn't match exactly paint mixed in the aftern= oon=20 after a "2 Pint" lunch.  The sales staff at one dealership I worked at=20= would always comment on a load of 7 cars that were all ordered the same colo= r,=20 but none were the same, especially the BRG ones.  They would call the=20= buyers in order of their deposits and they could come pick the one they like= d=20 the best.  That being said, which green or any other color for that mat= ter=20 is exactly correct is very subject to discussion and objectivity. We can all= =20 probably agree to disagree, but just because you bought your car new and it h= as=20 original paint, doesn't mean that someone else's car can't have the same=20 "correct" color but be a different shade.  When it comes to Sunbeam col= ors=20 I feel that some of the original colors need a little adjustment to really l= ook=20 good, please I know that may offend a few purists, I mean no offense, its ju= st=20 my personal taste. 

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= --Apple-Mail-9581A4BB-E0D8-4F61-B124-DB975F624C34-- --===============1309698356494104396== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net --===============1309698356494104396==-- From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 7 20:28:42 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF7B5A11D2 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2020 20:28:42 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omta014.uswest2.a.cloudfilter.net (unknown [35.164.127.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FECAA1125 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2020 20:28:30 -0700 (MST) Received: from cxr.smtp.a.cloudfilter.net ([10.0.17.147]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id okF9iJiwpUvUGp21FiOrQI; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 03:28:29 +0000 Received: from app-17.app.iad.rs.oxcs.net ([146.20.112.67]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id p21EiJx0zfutfp21FiUpIy; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 03:28:29 +0000 a=IN5e7ORV7WapKVHgxEPmgA==:117 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=5AOsns8nencA:10 a=d7ouEHd-hZgA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=Uriabm6K_IDwM-JHf1cA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=keWcOk2eOmA6wIVhQBIA:9 a=EfBn0AErlVwXwGxJ:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=GGGinmgZRQXmVEG1E52S:22 a=5YQ6H4ZxyGn-KoBYtt8s:22 a=qrIFiuKZe2vaD64auk6j:22 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2020 22:28:28 -0500 (EST) To: Tom Witt , Tom Witt via Tigers References: <273289859.5229775.1578414872358.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <273289859.5229775.1578414872358@mail.yahoo.com> Importance: Medium +9hKFmHWIpLQ71wgthJ78l3Xand24fwTXsgPGyb20FPtRlAbRnvWryuaMoUzKNcIn1T4KvQMxMOEwOsJaOH1VZq85cvC7hyquyVJBqnmt4+wC2rAOCCm8/xt Subject: Re: [Tigers] British car colors from the 60's From: "e.coiner e.coiner via Tigers" Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============5069859784612455433== boundary="----=_Part_19347_164388219.1578454108788" ------=_Part_19347_164388219.1578454108788 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sunbeam contention over the true color of Forest Green is NOTHING compared = to Shelby Cobra debates on the true shade of Guardsman Blue. OY! > On January 7, 2020 at 12:28 PM Tom Witt via Tigers wrote: >=20 > A well stated and logical conclusion. It also brings a sense of relie= f being on 12/26/19 I stated, =E2=80=9C Like many things Tiger it might be = that each color batch was slightly different. And perhaps different UV expo= sure and even waxing treatments alter the shade.=E2=80=9D And that simply b= ased on a hunch given other irregularities germane to Tigers. Perhaps rathe= r than arguing about who has the #86 color supremacy of originality perhaps= it can be seen as the =E2=80=9Cfamily=E2=80=9D of #86=E2=80=99s and like w= ith identical twins there are still subtle differences. > =20 > From: clyde mclaughlin via Tigers mailto:tigers@autox.team.net > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2020 8:34 AM > To: tigers@autox.team.net mailto:tigers@autox.team.net > Subject: [Tigers] British car colors from the 60's > =20 > It looks like now the discussions on the correct green color has sett= led down, I would like to add a comment based on dealership employment back= in the early 70's. These comments apply to all the popular British marque= s. In the early 60's thru late 70's the paint blending did not have the ac= curacies that exist today, that being said paint mixed in the morning proba= bly didn't match exactly paint mixed in the afternoon after a "2 Pint" lunc= h. The sales staff at one dealership I worked at would always comment on a= load of 7 cars that were all ordered the same color, but none were the sam= e, especially the BRG ones. They would call the buyers in order of their d= eposits and they could come pick the one they liked the best. That being s= aid, which green or any other color for that matter is exactly correct is v= ery subject to discussion and objectivity. We can all probably agree to dis= agree, but just because you bought your car new and it has original paint, = doesn't mean that someone else's car can't have the same "correct" color bu= t be a different shade. When it comes to Sunbeam colors I feel that some o= f the original colors need a little adjustment to really look good, please = I know that may offend a few purists, I mean no offense, its just my person= al taste.=20 >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------- > _______________________________________________ >=20 > tigers@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/a= rchive >=20 > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend@= verizon.net >=20 >=20 >=20 =20 > _______________________________________________ >=20 > tigers@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/a= rchive >=20 > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/e.coiner@co= x.net >=20 >=20 >=20 =20 ------=_Part_19347_164388219.1578454108788 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sunbeam contention over the true color of Forest Green is NOTH= ING compared to Shelby Cobra debates on the true shade of Guardsman Blue. = OY!
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On January 7, 2020 at 12:28 PM Tom Witt via T= igers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

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A well stated and logical conclusion. It also brings a sense of relie= f being on 12/26/19 I stated, “ Like many things Tiger it might be that each color batch was slig= htly different. And perhaps different UV exposure and even waxing treatment= s alter the shade.” And that simply based on a hunch given other= irregularities germane to Tigers. Perhaps rather than arguing about who ha= s the #86 color supremacy of originality perhaps it can be seen as the R= 20;family” of #86’s and like with identical twins there are sti= ll subtle differences.
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It looks like now the discussions on the correct green color has set= tled down, I would like to add a comment based on dealership employment bac= k in the early 70's.  These comments apply to all the popular Brit= ish marques.  In the early 60's thru late 70's the paint blend= ing did not have the accuracies that exist today, that being said paint mix= ed in the morning probably didn't match exactly paint mixed in the afte= rnoon after a "2 Pint" lunch.  The sales staff at one dealersh= ip I worked at would always comment on a load of 7 cars that were all order= ed the same color, but none were the same, especially the BRG ones.  T= hey would call the buyers in order of their deposits and they could come pi= ck the one they liked the best.  That being said, which green or any o= ther color for that matter is exactly correct is very subject to discussion= and objectivity. We can all probably agree to disagree, but just because y= ou bought your car new and it has original paint, doesn't mean that som= eone else's car can't have the same "correct" color but be = a different shade.  When it comes to Sunbeam colors I feel that some o= f the original colors need a little adjustment to really look good, please = I know that may offend a few purists, I mean no offense, its just my person= al taste. =20
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Can anyone recommend a good site to get a good idea of the value of my Tiger
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A quick note, when I had my Healey and went to many shows= no Healeys had the same brg shades, some darker ,some more blue, mixing wa= s less an art than today, but they all looked great!!=C2=A0 Beau.=C2=A0 --000000000000eea5b1059ba0fc4d-- --===============7134284732067869478== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net --===============7134284732067869478==-- From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 8 06:38:09 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2D6A11A0 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 06:38:09 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lf1-f53.google.com (unknown [209.85.167.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DACA0DF9 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 06:38:01 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-lf1-f53.google.com with SMTP id m30so2455397lfp.8 for ; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 05:38:01 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=EfOQG+yDqADi5jEXzAsUsgoUniLCjgc0k3/fHUVNNu8=; b=rF0Q2/9+S+/KohnugXjNhIoerFPEQh01AkMqAr2MuWjdjUYNsFwQTJbZGWLqW8sNB8 ELvehC9jtRp72e/eOvXDaGHN6aX6H6CLp0SH7/Im42aRZ3L2mVEwDmAW+4nnKmQUTjpP Q2HN1a6VnGOyeuYlc88VzklmWgKVnATUrk+Jnbh4tv8Mc0H8xMp6FhDrDHFOcneZqcCq FBhkk8vrucs1JNOotUlaiPZPccGb+968dwIv1N7p2l8sNf9zw+ug25+Yr1if5lbxHf6t FtpFz7cyFqTT3YQeROWqhNTBSCjgRJueD2FLx00lJrBn/AcbtOkN13XXQsGVBpphIgnN QOeQ== d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=EfOQG+yDqADi5jEXzAsUsgoUniLCjgc0k3/fHUVNNu8=; b=A1IVU4zP4cJOw5WxoKIrwzjqO8Ma1N4ZWM+FTMAPcjw9XZleIARmsIjSNqKza+igGU xlKuup2iI4P+9YItDMsOH2Sh0yIk5vyiw9bGlprB08uZGMMZ2XxI9+R8JxKu9HxsB+N8 3CR3FTmAQStPqIH27lWxe+ZRfyeE7sCg+DH5UqjswnpyeHC0YfkFiz94MByoe5hmOTz8 T85qG5Acv09rkAisoSTDw01prST/FuYhHI5ZvFJUnTw+TV7qqBGn2gdV2/mJINO3RYDr ZV8bWrc444nqpi3IzNJstxpzvswce/OxSl4DmVPAqQhHSR2PGoME6+mnkrElZimQKfle Rj9w== wQlervdHhoFZJ77rTLA950Me0T09Ex4Ay+714g8= Wed, 08 Jan 2020 05:38:00 -0800 (PST) References: Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 08:37:34 -0500 To: Lance Beauchamp Subject: Re: [Tigers] Values From: Stu via Tigers Cc: "Tiger Club. Submission" Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7040491630820619264== --0000000000004d3210059ba100e8 Hagerty's web site has a value tool. IIRC it pretty much agreed with the appraised value of mine a couple years back. Stu On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 8:29 AM Lance Beauchamp via Tigers < tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > Can anyone recommend a good site to get a good idea of the value of my > Tiger > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/sabre2tgr@gmail.com > > > --0000000000004d3210059ba100e8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hag= erty's web site has a value tool.=C2=A0 IIRC it pretty much agreed with= the appraised value of mine a couple years back.=C2=A0=C2=A0

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On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 8:29 A= M Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <t= igers@autox.team.net> wrote:
Can anyone recommend a good site to g= et a good idea of the value of my Tiger
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try that with healey ice blue metallic...even the judges can't agree...rather see people spend the time on a proper paint job,no over spray,orange peal,sunken spots...and get the damn gaps right....all it takes is work....you can shave in my paint job,all sanding with long board or short board...no da swirls


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Sent: Wed, Jan 8, 2020 8:37 am
Subject: [Tigers] BRG

A quick note, when I had my Healey and went to many shows no Healeys had the same brg shades, some darker ,some more blue, mixing was less an art than today, but they all looked great!!  Beau. 
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OfBTRzc3w4PWST4LiLBKbD86qGcE2PQcOl7EG7PWeSvQWeHtG4dw7K6AXvOIxhJSYOf.F Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic305.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 18:21:57 +0000 Received: by smtp409.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (Oath Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 5f27f1b8acdbb62f40bf4ade79ef5678; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 18:21:54 +0000 (UTC) To: References: <985095826.5597045.1578506121089@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:21:49 -0800 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [Tigers] BRG From: Tom Witt via Tigers Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0560248923393206619== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0071_01D5C60D.7039AC40" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01D5C60D.7039AC40 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =E2=80=9C...even the judges can't agree...=E2=80=9D Yes, and do the judges pass a color blind test before they are certified = to judge? I have clothing that some call off-white and others call = slightly gray and yet I see a hint of green. As far as =E2=80=9C...no = da swirls,=E2=80=9D well only if there were no swirls from the factory. = But then..., what is original? Say there were no swirls from the factory = but in the dealer prep process they appeared. And the first time buyer = never sees the car until after dealer prep. So, what is original? Will = it get to the point that judges microscopically check the barely = discernable swirl spacing, test the tires for 1960=E2=80=99s air? A = while back I recall reading about judging to the extent that points were = awarded because there was a hint of grease on the Zerk fitting and that = was deemed =E2=80=9Cmore original!=E2=80=9D I know this all sounds a bit absurd but in the world of one-upmanship = there is always someone who wants to outdo the next guy. And the = negative side of that can be some are left feeling lacking because their = cars aren=E2=80=99t =E2=80=9Cthere=E2=80=9D and the joy of ownership = gets lost in the pursuit. From: phastphill--- via Tigers=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 9:55 AM To: blance598@gmail.com ; tigers@autox.team.net=20 Subject: Re: [Tigers] BRG try that with healey ice blue metallic...even the judges can't = agree...rather see people spend the time on a proper paint job,no over = spray,orange peal,sunken spots...and get the damn gaps right....all it = takes is work....you can shave in my paint job,all sanding with long = board or short board...no da swirls -----Original Message----- From: Lance Beauchamp via Tigers To: Tiger Club. Submission Sent: Wed, Jan 8, 2020 8:37 am Subject: [Tigers] BRG A quick note, when I had my Healey and went to many shows no Healeys had = the same brg shades, some darker ,some more blue, mixing was less an art = than today, but they all looked great!! Beau.=20 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers = http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/phastphill@aol.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers = http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend@verizon.net ------=_NextPart_000_0071_01D5C60D.7039AC40 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=E2=80=9C...even = the judges can't=20 agree...=E2=80=9D
 
Yes, and do the judges pass a color = blind test=20 before they are certified to judge? I have clothing that some call = off-white and=20 others call slightly gray and yet I see a hint of green.  As far as = =E2=80=9C...no=20 da swirls,=E2=80=9D well only if there were no swirls from the = factory.  But=20 then..., what is original? Say there were no swirls from the factory but = in the=20 dealer prep process they appeared. And the first time buyer never sees = the car=20 until after dealer prep. So, what is original?  Will it get to the = point=20 that judges microscopically check the barely discernable swirl spacing, = test the=20 tires for 1960=E2=80=99s air? A while back I recall reading about = judging to the extent=20 that points were awarded because there was a hint of grease on the Zerk = fitting=20 and that was deemed =E2=80=9Cmore original!=E2=80=9D
 
  I know this all sounds a bit = absurd but in=20 the world of one-upmanship there is always someone who wants to outdo = the next=20 guy. And the negative side of that can be some are left feeling lacking = because=20 their cars aren=E2=80=99t =E2=80=9Cthere=E2=80=9D and the joy of = ownership gets lost in the=20 pursuit.
 
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try that with healey ice = blue=20 metallic...even the judges can't agree...rather see people spend the = time on a=20 proper paint job,no over spray,orange peal,sunken spots...and get the = damn gaps=20 right....all it takes is work....you can shave in my paint job,all = sanding with=20 long board or short board...no da swirls


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Personally, I enjoy cars with personal choice colors. Perhaps one day = I=E2=80=99ll repaint mine a shade of blue, in remembrance of my First tiger back in the 60s. But show me a judge who can=E2=80=99t spot Forest Green 86 and you=E2=80=99= ll identify a judge who should volunteer for another Assignment. > On Jan 8, 2020, at 1:21 PM, Tom Witt via Tigers = wrote: >=20 > =E2=80=9C...even the judges can't agree...=E2=80=9D > =20 > Yes, and do the judges pass a color blind test before they are = certified to judge? I have clothing that some call off-white and others = call slightly gray and yet I see a hint of green. As far as =E2=80=9C...n= o da swirls,=E2=80=9D well only if there were no swirls from the = factory. But then..., what is original? Say there were no swirls from = the factory but in the dealer prep process they appeared. And the first = time buyer never sees the car until after dealer prep. So, what is = original? Will it get to the point that judges microscopically check = the barely discernable swirl spacing, test the tires for 1960=E2=80=99s = air? A while back I recall reading about judging to the extent that = points were awarded because there was a hint of grease on the Zerk = fitting and that was deemed =E2=80=9Cmore original!=E2=80=9D > =20 > I know this all sounds a bit absurd but in the world of = one-upmanship there is always someone who wants to outdo the next guy. = And the negative side of that can be some are left feeling lacking = because their cars aren=E2=80=99t =E2=80=9Cthere=E2=80=9D and the joy of = ownership gets lost in the pursuit. > =20 > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 9:55 AM > Subject: Re: [Tigers] BRG > =20 > try that with healey ice blue metallic...even the judges can't = agree...rather see people spend the time on a proper paint job,no over = spray,orange peal,sunken spots...and get the damn gaps right....all it = takes is work....you can shave in my paint job,all sanding with long = board or short board...no da swirls >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Lance Beauchamp via Tigers > To: Tiger Club. Submission > Sent: Wed, Jan 8, 2020 8:37 am > Subject: [Tigers] BRG >=20 > A quick note, when I had my Healey and went to many shows no Healeys = had the same brg shades, some darker ,some more blue, mixing was less an = art than today, but they all looked great!! Beau. > _______________________________________________ >=20 >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html = > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers = http://autox.team.net/archive = >=20 > Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/phastphill@aol.com = >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ >=20 > tigers@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers = http://autox.team.net/archive >=20 > Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend@verizon.net >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ >=20 > tigers@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers = http://autox.team.net/archive >=20 > Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/aballard@ix.netcom.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_05316580-69E2-43A5-A475-F84676B261C8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 Folks= who have zero trouble spotting Forest Green 86 from 20 yards away = suddenly go color blind on the concours?

Personally, I enjoy cars with personal = choice colors. Perhaps one day I=E2=80=99ll repaint mine a shade of = blue, in remembrance of my
First tiger back in the = 60s.

But show = me a judge who can=E2=80=99t spot Forest Green 86 and you=E2=80=99ll = identify a judge who should volunteer for another
Assignment.

On Jan 8, 2020, at 1:21 PM, Tom = Witt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

=E2=80=9C...even the judges can't=20 agree...=E2=80=9D
 
Yes, and do = the judges pass a color blind test=20 before they are certified to judge? I have clothing that some call = off-white and=20 others call slightly gray and yet I see a hint of green.  As far as = =E2=80=9C...no=20 da swirls,=E2=80=9D well only if there were no swirls from the = factory.  But=20 then..., what is original? Say there were no swirls from the factory but = in the=20 dealer prep process they appeared. And the first time buyer never sees = the car=20 until after dealer prep. So, what is original?  Will it get to the = point=20 that judges microscopically check the barely discernable swirl spacing, = test the=20 tires for 1960=E2=80=99s air? A while back I recall reading about = judging to the extent=20 that points were awarded because there was a hint of grease on the Zerk = fitting=20 and that was deemed =E2=80=9Cmore original!=E2=80=9D
 
  I know = this all sounds a bit absurd but in=20 the world of one-upmanship there is always someone who wants to outdo = the next=20 guy. And the negative side of that can be some are left feeling lacking = because=20 their cars aren=E2=80=99t =E2=80=9Cthere=E2=80=9D and the joy of = ownership gets lost in the=20 pursuit.
 
From: phastphill--- via Tigers
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To: blance598@gmail.com ; = tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] = BRG
 
try that with healey ice blue=20 metallic...even the judges can't agree...rather see people spend the = time on a=20 proper paint job,no over spray,orange peal,sunken spots...and get the = damn gaps=20 right....all it takes is work....you can shave in my paint job,all = sanding with=20 long board or short board...no da swirls


=
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To: Tiger Club. = Submission=20 <tigers@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Jan 8, = 2020 8:37 am
Subject:=20 [Tigers] BRG

A quick note, when I had my Healey and went to many = shows no Healeys had=20 the same brg shades, some darker ,some more blue, mixing was less an art = than=20 today, but they all looked great!!  Beau.=20
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= --Apple-Mail=_05316580-69E2-43A5-A475-F84676B261C8-- --===============1969691979083226218== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net --===============1969691979083226218==-- From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 8 11:50:11 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C0EA11C6 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 11:50:11 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vk1-f171.google.com (unknown [209.85.221.171]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ED9BA0FDB for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 11:50:08 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-vk1-f171.google.com with SMTP id o187so1260040vka.2 for ; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 10:50:08 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=qm92ZuCco4N+j3TrcmHU3cGanVCyNMrFGYiNxlnGsqc=; b=CvqDpRNvDboGHuQZvmSmkvVshB+1zMrgrHRFkWJfsobbRQWu2EfzEe9E+ykhTUr8n2 GhcwpLe+Ltjvb49jOTG9Ax41KkCreUininReMdbcx9dLizXP0EftaRG1Xe77H/ONy4ro 0r/gs0Vu2X4EL3498eiFB6YvtG6TZUffmCoSIvsBXzyzImhZLmc926nc6FpfM3vsvY6s REvxbgf6zXr3wRW6C53qpyi+Xeu5Z3oBzqNol6zgk+OSgy/JBFQSxjN9+Lb4JFs2xrNK 2xhv33fd6VOTKrFM63yur9HNvp5btFj6LQjV0rra1pKop+Ta0Pvp8pVtr23yLNIUg7gF O3cw== d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=qm92ZuCco4N+j3TrcmHU3cGanVCyNMrFGYiNxlnGsqc=; b=IKLNf0XTva0myp85rq8SxuuFCOeZefwEJIOx3hC5X3Ocj2nbvwMULd4dreF4p1nHK4 IQnxPkmbj3iIpGfgm24oG28Lpi9hC9D02baXfF1S2UtFmd2utxEhcePN8GZj4IE7Vjhg JKMbI5GsLy31S8T10o9WV9RyY0zJwp7oYktL8u6ZFgP+/GEaFaC0GoE8JuNdXUo8wqe5 mv+f4eJUgKNvtAXmsSR7W6P2honHpYyoT4Qpa+f48N14wTQpi2h5ZmUKTXVId+zyXBFN j3YtEfaU9QBU99l9vnk9Nl75HPvR2jelrEfQyo4/uO499NTUmQxZsWJf9nWS0EofG00L tdoA== QbrEQ7WBKAi7xtBQaulLezkCVcsyIH6F1Mh1MNE= Wed, 08 Jan 2020 10:50:07 -0800 (PST) References: <985095826.5597045.1578506121089@mail.yahoo.com> <93C3FF4D8C6F4ADD9360C3B455C7F914@user1PC> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:49:56 -0800 To: Tom Witt Subject: Re: [Tigers] BRG From: Jay Laifman via Tigers Cc: Tiger's Den Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7771213475379134549== --00000000000084ca16059ba55cea Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It really depends on the competition in the concours world. When the cars get so good that differences become more minor, it has to count. One interesting story is that the Porsche concours world got so detailed oriented, down to every nut and washer, that the Pebble Beach concours kicked out Porsche because the other cars couldn't compete. And another interesting story. I watched at TV documentary on Corvette restoration. Similar situation where the competition is so keen, the winners had to go even further. This restorer was showing that the paint on Corvettes air conditioning brackets would peel almost immediately. He "perfected" that peel! He also showed that Chevy would not buff out the paint until after the bumpers were on. So the paint under the bumpers had more orange peel. He perfected that as well. On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:22 AM Tom Witt via Tigers wrote: > =E2=80=9C...even the judges can't agree...=E2=80=9D > > Yes, and do the judges pass a color blind test before they are certified > to judge? I have clothing that some call off-white and others call slight= ly > gray and yet I see a hint of green. As far as =E2=80=9C...no da swirls,= =E2=80=9D well only > if there were no swirls from the factory. But then..., what is original? > Say there were no swirls from the factory but in the dealer prep process > they appeared. And the first time buyer never sees the car until after > dealer prep. So, what is original? Will it get to the point that judges > microscopically check the barely discernable swirl spacing, test the tire= s > for 1960=E2=80=99s air? A while back I recall reading about judging to th= e extent > that points were awarded because there was a hint of grease on the Zerk > fitting and that was deemed =E2=80=9Cmore original!=E2=80=9D > > I know this all sounds a bit absurd but in the world of one-upmanship > there is always someone who wants to outdo the next guy. And the negative > side of that can be some are left feeling lacking because their cars aren= =E2=80=99t > =E2=80=9Cthere=E2=80=9D and the joy of ownership gets lost in the pursuit= . > > *From:* phastphill--- via Tigers > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2020 9:55 AM > *To:* blance598@gmail.com ; tigers@autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] BRG > > try that with healey ice blue metallic...even the judges can't > agree...rather see people spend the time on a proper paint job,no over > spray,orange peal,sunken spots...and get the damn gaps right....all it > takes is work....you can shave in my paint job,all sanding with long boar= d > or short board...no da swirls > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lance Beauchamp via Tigers > To: Tiger Club. Submission > Sent: Wed, Jan 8, 2020 8:37 am > Subject: [Tigers] BRG > > A quick note, when I had my Healey and went to many shows no Healeys had > the same brg shades, some darker ,some more blue, mixing was less an art > than today, but they all looked great!! Beau. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/phastphill@aol.com > > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend@verizon.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com > > > --00000000000084ca16059ba55cea Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It really depends=C2=A0on the competition in the concours = world.=C2=A0 When the cars get so good that differences become more minor, = it has to count.

One interesting story is that the Porsc= he concours world=C2=A0got so detailed oriented, down to every nut and wash= er, that the Pebble Beach concours kicked out Porsche because the other car= s couldn't compete.=C2=A0=C2=A0

And another in= teresting story.=C2=A0 I watched at TV documentary on Corvette restoration.= =C2=A0 Similar situation=C2=A0where the competition is so keen, the winners= had to go even further.=C2=A0 This restorer was showing=C2=A0that the pain= t on Corvettes air conditioning brackets would peel almost immediately.=C2= =A0 He "perfected" that peel!=C2=A0 He also showed that Chevy wou= ld not buff out the paint until after the bumpers were on.=C2=A0 So the pai= nt under the bumpers had more orange peel. He perfected that as well.
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On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:22 AM Tom Witt via = Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
=E2=80=9C...even t= he judges can't=20 agree...=E2=80=9D
=C2=A0
Yes, and do the judges pass a color bl= ind test=20 before they are certified to judge? I have clothing that some call off-whit= e and=20 others call slightly gray and yet I see a hint of green.=C2=A0 As far as = =E2=80=9C...no=20 da swirls,=E2=80=9D well only if there were no swirls from the factory.=C2= =A0 But=20 then..., what is original? Say there were no swirls from the factory but in= the=20 dealer prep process they appeared. And the first time buyer never sees the = car=20 until after dealer prep. So, what is original?=C2=A0 Will it get to the poi= nt=20 that judges microscopically check the barely discernable swirl spacing, tes= t the=20 tires for 1960=E2=80=99s air? A while back I recall reading about judging t= o the extent=20 that points were awarded because there was a hint of grease on the Zerk fit= ting=20 and that was deemed =E2=80=9Cmore original!=E2=80=9D
=C2=A0
=C2=A0 I know this all sounds a bit ab= surd but in=20 the world of one-upmanship there is always someone who wants to outdo the n= ext=20 guy. And the negative side of that can be some are left feeling lacking bec= ause=20 their cars aren=E2=80=99t =E2=80=9Cthere=E2=80=9D and the joy of ownership = gets lost in the=20 pursuit.
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Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Tigers] BRG
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try that with healey ice blue=20 metallic...even the judges can't agree...rather see people spend the ti= me on a=20 proper paint job,no over spray,orange peal,sunken spots...and get the damn = gaps=20 right....all it takes is work....you can shave in my paint job,all sanding = with=20 long board or short board...no da swirls


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Sent: Wed, Jan 8, 2020 8:37 am
Subject:=20 [Tigers] BRG

A quick note, when I had my Healey and went to many shows no Healeys h= ad=20 the same brg shades, some darker ,some more blue, mixing was less an art th= an=20 today, but they all looked great!!=C2=A0 Beau.=20
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Then get a corn whis= k broom and slip on undercoating..... ;) On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 tigers-request wrote: Send Tigers mailing list submissions to =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 tigers@autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 tigers-request@autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 tigers-owner@autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." Today's Topics: =C2=A0 1. Re: BRG (Jay Laifman) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:49:56 -0800 From: Jay Laifman To: Tom Witt Cc: "Tiger's Den" Subject: Re: [Tigers] BRG Message-ID: =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 It really depends on the competition in the concours world.=C2=A0 When the = cars get so good that differences become more minor, it has to count. One interesting story is that the Porsche concours world got so detailed oriented, down to every nut and washer, that the Pebble Beach concours kicked out Porsche because the other cars couldn't compete. And another interesting story.=C2=A0 I watched at TV documentary on Corvett= e restoration.=C2=A0 Similar situation where the competition is so keen, the winners had to go even further.=C2=A0 This restorer was showing that the pa= int on Corvettes air conditioning brackets would peel almost immediately.=C2=A0= He "perfected" that peel!=C2=A0 He also showed that Chevy would not buff out t= he paint until after the bumpers were on.=C2=A0 So the paint under the bumpers= had more orange peel. He perfected that as well. On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:22 AM Tom Witt via Tigers wrote: > ?...even the judges can't agree...? > > Yes, and do the judges pass a color blind test before they are certified > to judge? I have clothing that some call off-white and others call slight= ly > gray and yet I see a hint of green.=C2=A0 As far as ?...no da swirls,? we= ll only > if there were no swirls from the factory.=C2=A0 But then..., what is orig= inal? > Say there were no swirls from the factory but in the dealer prep process > they appeared. And the first time buyer never sees the car until after > dealer prep. So, what is original?=C2=A0 Will it get to the point that ju= dges > microscopically check the barely discernable swirl spacing, test the tire= s > for 1960?s air? A while back I recall reading about judging to the extent > that points were awarded because there was a hint of grease on the Zerk > fitting and that was deemed ?more original!? > >=C2=A0 I know this all sounds a bit absurd but in the world of one-upmansh= ip > there is always someone who wants to outdo the next guy. And the negative > side of that can be some are left feeling lacking because their cars aren= ?t > ?there? and the joy of ownership gets lost in the pursuit. > > *From:* phastphill--- via Tigers > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2020 9:55 AM > *To:* blance598@gmail.com ; tigers@autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] BRG > > try that with healey ice blue metallic...even the judges can't > agree...rather see people spend the time on a proper paint job,no over > spray,orange peal,sunken spots...and get the damn gaps right....all it > takes is work....you can shave in my paint job,all sanding with long boar= d > or short board...no da swirls > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lance Beauchamp via Tigers > To: Tiger Club. Submission > Sent: Wed, Jan 8, 2020 8:37 am > Subject: [Tigers] BRG > > A quick note, when I had my Healey and went to many shows no Healeys had > the same brg shades, some darker ,some more blue, mixing was less an art > than today, but they all looked great!!=C2=A0 Beau. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/phastphill@aol.com > > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend@verizon.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Cc: "Tiger's Den" <tigers@autox.team.net>
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It really depends on the competition in the concours world.  When th= e cars
get so good that differences become more m= inor, it has to count.

One interesting story is that the Porsche concours world got so detailed
oriented, down to every nut and washer, that the P= ebble Beach concours
kicked out Porsche because t= he other cars couldn't compete.

And another interesting story.  I watched at TV documentary = on Corvette
restoration.  Similar situation = where the competition is so keen, the
winners had= to go even further.  This restorer was showing that the paint
on Corvettes air conditioning brackets would peel almost= immediately.  He
"perfected" that peel!&nbs= p; He also showed that Chevy would not buff out the
paint until after the bumpers were on.  So the paint under the bump= ers had
more orange peel. He perfected that as we= ll.



On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:22 AM Tom Wit= t via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
wrote:

> ?...e= ven the judges can't agree...?
>
> Yes, and do the judges pass a color blind test before the= y are certified
> to judge? I have clothing th= at some call off-white and others call slightly
&= gt; gray and yet I see a hint of green.  As far as ?...no da swirls,? = well only
> if there were no swirls from the f= actory.  But then..., what is original?
>= Say there were no swirls from the factory but in the dealer prep process
> they appeared. And the first time buyer never= sees the car until after
> dealer prep. So, w= hat is original?  Will it get to the point that judges
> microscopically check the barely discernable swirl spacing,= test the tires
> for 1960?s air? A while back= I recall reading about judging to the extent
>= ; that points were awarded because there was a hint of grease on the Zerk
> fitting and that was deemed ?more original!?<= br>
>
>  I know= this all sounds a bit absurd but in the world of one-upmanship
> there is always someone who wants to outdo the next guy= . And the negative
> side of that can be some = are left feeling lacking because their cars aren?t
> ?there? and the joy of ownership gets lost in the pursuit.
=
>
> *From:* phastphill--- = via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2020 9:55 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] BRG
>
> try that with healey ice blu= e metallic...even the judges can't
> agree...r= ather see people spend the time on a proper paint job,no over
> spray,orange peal,sunken spots...and get the damn gaps ri= ght....all it
> takes is work....you can shave= in my paint job,all sanding with long board
>= or short board...no da swirls
>
>
> -----Original Message-----=
> From: Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> To: Tiger Clu= b. Submission <tigers@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, Jan 8, 2020 8:37 am
> Su= bject: [Tigers] BRG
>
> A quick note, when I had my Healey and went to many shows no Healeys= had
> the same brg shades, some darker ,some = more blue, mixing was less an art
> than today= , but they all looked great!!  Beau.
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From: Tom Witt via Tigers Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============8559102830170665121== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00B7_01D5C62A.14786BE0" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01D5C62A.14786BE0 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable California Vehicle Code 10752 VC makes it a crime to sell a vehicle = identification number or to possess a VIN that is stolen or fraudulent. = This offense is also a wobbler. A misdemeanor conviction carries a = sentence of up to one year in county jail; a felony conviction carries = up to 3 years in state prison. Underlined is mine. It appears OK to have, but not sell the VIN. What I = find almost comical is the statement, =E2=80=9Cor even more useful if = you happen to have the Tiger these came on originally.=E2=80=9D Which, = begs the question, how would you know? From: Dr. T. Y. McDowell via Tigers=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2020 1:39 PM To: heinz mihm ; heinz mihm via Tigers=20 Subject: Re: [Tigers] ebay listing: isn't this illegal? Well, if it isn't, it damn well should be!=20 Tym McDowell=20 On January 8, 2020 at 4:15 PM heinz mihm via Tigers = wrote:=20 https://www.ebay.com/itm/333453015993?ul_noapp=3Dtrue=20 _______________________________________________=20 tigers@autox.team.net=20 Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html=20 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers = http://autox.team.net/archive=20 Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tym2@comcast.net=20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers = http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend@verizon.net ------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01D5C62A.14786BE0 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
California Vehicle=20 Code 10752 VC makes it a crime to sell a=20 vehicle identification number or=20 to possess a VIN that=20 is stolen or fraudulent. This offense is also a wobbler. A = misdemeanor=20 conviction carries a sentence of up to one year in county jail; a felony = conviction carries up to 3 years in state = prison.
 
Underlined=20 is mine. It appears OK to have, but not sell the VIN. What I find almost = comical=20 is the statement, =E2=80=9Cor even more useful if you = happen to have=20 the Tiger these came on originally.=E2=80=9D Which, begs = the question, how=20 would you know?
 
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Well, =20 if it isn't, it damn well should be!
 
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------=_NextPart_000_00B7_01D5C62A.14786BE0-- --===============8559102830170665121== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net --===============8559102830170665121==-- From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Jan 8 14:49:20 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845CCA0B80 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 14:49:20 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-il1-f176.google.com (unknown [209.85.166.176]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E343A0B54 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2020 14:49:13 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-il1-f176.google.com with SMTP id t8so3979342iln.4 for ; Wed, 08 Jan 2020 13:49:13 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=ZIFx+PlWj3VEuUDZg3TNH+YyUhLn3yohD4By2oY9j/M=; b=umOtK45GUXDRRnOww3hEluPHY7S8bSOtq/UWjylIt1G+iEV3oG+eb+HDwpQ4uNHDKN uRpCLPvVzMAy3I6ah8BpusPNZgPHP9DdzVSSEh5qHUj7wpWcQdr6+JivG8XkG1Lgw0gI K9L1dCupsMnAPxW/MAw2m1i+26gtoOrgHcJjvnd2jyv2A+marvuFi3r8nzIJjLGEhAjf t98E7ICDnE+FFGBgp2+0D5wvbMQxBcqfmnO5je9Y59bQ3MAL2aO9zTtcYXG+2WzOgtpx vhDrksjGob2xPYku6TNNHUJrAHhiN7705gTaSulOGQ1FS3HOA9szEl5VdyYzpJOmxlop Rv0Q== d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=ZIFx+PlWj3VEuUDZg3TNH+YyUhLn3yohD4By2oY9j/M=; b=O8MWsC7LlKSAQIATFfLY/YhjRBuK73K9qtfQCD4AkzHF2L/he3wGGLcNnSJCpkeGVs r7rBpAqYMW8F55zy1wQTR/MD6aoYzWaB9TrtXJXhU4rVGziqst94PqQgqRNfFI0MVOlr FSBMAmy55UXO06HYOrTkITAYFG1uwoX8DRCBaAbyoQOTQ8iOEBsUu36Py9IQ1YvIkqAY JEQ0sZll/mdBH2GyRf7JY4Rq4jg6p/CdyGksB00XVzIV10hZUdvRvkBW9eBfjdBWlo69 4gqhjHz/8Bk2SxlGvgyne6Wxk6dlGj12krQ+ryMrW9C/VwkuMQmBvTB1gvlUHlC4cME+ fI+A== wErud6/+V3POj9MEtdzT6Oy3zBWxo2obH2JuotDYenvd Wed, 08 Jan 2020 13:49:13 -0800 (PST) References: <08BE4247A48F45C59E2EC04F34853DF2@heinz> <1399754325.265954.1578519584259@connect.xfinity.com> Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 16:49:02 -0500 To: Tom Witt Subject: Re: [Tigers] ebay listing: isn't this illegal? From: Tom Parker via Tigers Cc: LIST TIGER Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2714249568543746097== --000000000000fe010f059ba7dcac Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We hope Norm sees and records the VIN. Tom P On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 4:47 PM Tom Witt via Tigers wrote: > *California* Vehicle Code 10752 VC makes it a crime to *sell* a vehicle > identification *number* or to *possess a **VIN** that is stolen or > fraudulent*. This offense is also a wobbler. A misdemeanor conviction > carries a sentence of up to one year in county jail; a felony conviction > carries up to 3 years in state prison. > > Underlined is mine. It appears OK to have, but not sell the VIN. What I > find almost comical is the statement, =E2=80=9Cor even more useful if you= happen > to have the Tiger these came on originally.=E2=80=9D Which, begs the ques= tion, > how would you know? > > *From:* Dr. T. Y. McDowell via Tigers > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2020 1:39 PM > *To:* heinz mihm ; heinz mihm via Tigers > > *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] ebay listing: isn't this illegal? > > Well, if it isn't, it damn well should be! > > Tym McDowell > > On January 8, 2020 at 4:15 PM heinz mihm via Tigers > wrote: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/333453015993?ul_noapp=3Dtrue > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tym2@comcast.ne= t > > > > > > ------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/atwittsend@verizon.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com > > > --000000000000fe010f059ba7dcac Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We hope Norm sees and records the VIN.

= Tom P


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=C2=A0
Underlined=20 is mine. It appears OK to have, but not sell the VIN. What I find almost co= mical=20 is the statement, =E2=80=9Cor even more useful if you happen to have=20 the Tiger these came on originally.=E2=80=9D Which, begs t= he question, how=20 would you know?
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Well,=C2=A0=20 if it isn't, it damn well should be!
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Apparently nobody cares enough t= o report the add to eBay because on their list of prohibited items is Vin t= ags and rivets without the car they go to.=20 I don't know why Chris Richards would do this.=C2=A0=20 On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 tigers-request wrote: Send Tigers mailing list submissions to =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 tigers@autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 tigers-request@autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 tigers-owner@autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." Today's Topics: =C2=A0 1. Re: Tigers Digest, Vol 12, Issue 4 (Warren Goodman) =C2=A0 2. ebay listing: isn't=C2=A0 this illegal? (heinz mihm) =C2=A0 3. Re: ebay listing: isn't this illegal? (Dr. T. Y. McDowell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 20:37:49 +0000 (UTC) From: Warren Goodman To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 12, Issue 4 So get out your brush and paint the grill mouth black. Then get a corn whis= k broom and slip on undercoating..... ;) On Wednesday, January 8, 2020 tigers-request wrote: Send Tigers mailing list submissions to ??? tigers@autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit ??? http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to ??? tigers-request@autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at ??? tigers-owner@autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." Today's Topics: ? 1. Re: BRG (Jay Laifman) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:49:56 -0800 From: Jay Laifman To: Tom Witt Cc: "Tiger's Den" Subject: Re: [Tigers] BRG Message-ID: ??? It really depends on the competition in the concours world.? When the cars get so good that differences become more minor, it has to count. One interesting story is that the Porsche concours world got so detailed oriented, down to every nut and washer, that the Pebble Beach concours kicked out Porsche because the other cars couldn't compete. And another interesting story.? I watched at TV documentary on Corvette restoration.? Similar situation where the competition is so keen, the winners had to go even further.? This restorer was showing that the paint on Corvettes air conditioning brackets would peel almost immediately.? He "perfected" that peel!? He also showed that Chevy would not buff out the paint until after the bumpers were on.? So the paint under the bumpers had more orange peel. He perfected that as well. On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:22 AM Tom Witt via Tigers wrote: > ?...even the judges can't agree...? > > Yes, and do the judges pass a color blind test before they are certified > to judge? I have clothing that some call off-white and others call slight= ly > gray and yet I see a hint of green.? As far as ?...no da swirls,? well on= ly > if there were no swirls from the factory.? But then..., what is original? > Say there were no swirls from the factory but in the dealer prep process > they appeared. And the first time buyer never sees the car until after > dealer prep. So, what is original?? Will it get to the point that judges > microscopically check the barely discernable swirl spacing, test the tire= s > for 1960?s air? A while back I recall reading about judging to the extent > that points were awarded because there was a hint of grease on the Zerk > fitting and that was deemed ?more original!? > >? I know this all sounds a bit absurd but in the world of one-upmanship > there is always someone who wants to outdo the next guy. And the negative > side of that can be some are left feeling lacking because their cars aren= ?t > ?there? and the joy of ownership gets lost in the pursuit. > > *From:* phastphill--- via Tigers > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2020 9:55 AM > *To:* blance598@gmail.com ; tigers@autox.team.net > *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] BRG > > try that with healey ice blue metallic...even the judges can't > agree...rather see people spend the time on a proper paint job,no over > spray,orange peal,sunken spots...and get the damn gaps right....all it > takes is work....you can shave in my paint job,all sanding with long boar= d > or short board...no da swirls > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lance Beauchamp via Tigers > To: Tiger Club. 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The VIN tag sale is against eBay policy's. Apparently nobody= cares enough to report the add to eBay because on their list of prohibited= items is Vin tags and rivets without the car they go to.
I don't know why Chris Richards would do this. 



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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 12, Issue 4


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Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2020 10:49:56 -0800
From: Jay Laifman <jay.laifman@gmail.com>
To: Tom Witt <atwittsend@verizon.net>=
Cc: "Tiger's Den" <tigers@autox.team.n= et>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] BRG
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It really depends on the competit= ion in the concours world.? When the cars
get so = good that differences become more minor, it has to count.

One interesting story is that the Porsc= he concours world got so detailed
oriented, down = to every nut and washer, that the Pebble Beach concours
kicked out Porsche because the other cars couldn't compete.

And another interesting stor= y.? I watched at TV documentary on Corvette
resto= ration.? Similar situation where the competition is so keen, the
<= div dir=3D'ltr'>winners had to go even further.? This restorer was showing = that the paint
on Corvettes air conditioning brac= kets would peel almost immediately.? He
"perfecte= d" that peel!? He also showed that Chevy would not buff out the
paint until after the bumpers were on.? So the paint under t= he bumpers had
more orange peel. He perfected tha= t as well.


<= div dir=3D'ltr'>
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:22 AM = Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
wrote:

>= ; ?...even the judges can't agree...?
>
> Yes, and do the judges pass a color blind test bef= ore they are certified
> to judge? I have clot= hing that some call off-white and others call slightly
> gray and yet I see a hint of green.? As far as ?...no da swirls,= ? well only
> if there were no swirls from the= factory.? But then..., what is original?
> Sa= y there were no swirls from the factory but in the dealer prep process
<= /div>
> they appeared. And the first time buyer never se= es the car until after
> dealer prep. So, what= is original?? Will it get to the point that judges
> microscopically check the barely discernable swirl spacing, test th= e tires
> for 1960?s air? A while back I recal= l reading about judging to the extent
> that p= oints were awarded because there was a hint of grease on the Zerk
=
> fitting and that was deemed ?more original!?
>
>? I know this all soun= ds a bit absurd but in the world of one-upmanship
> there is always someone who wants to outdo the next guy. And the nega= tive
> side of that can be some are left feeli= ng lacking because their cars aren?t
> ?there?= and the joy of ownership gets lost in the pursuit.
>
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He's also selling Alpine tags and original rivets.

  https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sunbeam-Alpine-VIN-and-SAL-Plates-Original-Rivets/333462890657?_trkparms=aid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131231084308%26meid%3D5c6573b68c504de9be1e36f70743406c%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D184119988045%26itm%3D333462890657%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109

On 1/8/2020 5:43 PM, Warren Goodman via Tigers wrote:

The VIN tag sale is against eBay policy's. Apparently nobody cares enough to report the add to eBay because on their list of prohibited items is Vin tags and rivets without the car they go to.
I don't know why Chris Richards would do this. 



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Hello,


Just had my Minilites/tires removed to have the Minilites refinished by a local company called RimPro. When they finish, they will mount new Vredestines.

The center cups on the 1979 13" Minilites need to be replaced. Any bright ideas on where I can get more?
UK factory in Shropshire says they "think" they can supply, the US source won't even give a phone or an address. No mention of centers on their site.

Jim Armstrong
Mk 1A
382002083 LRXFE
Code 86
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I reported the sale of the VIN tag sale FWIW. Also a JAL tag = listed on there. I guess someone could use rear end and engine numbers = to try and see if the tag was for YOUR car !?. 500$ for a wall plaque = seems unlikely. There are also the =E2=80=98blank=E2=80=99 tags for sale = which can be used for special construction cars so, I don=E2=80=99t get = too excited about that. I=E2=80=99m guessing that tag that sold will end = up on an Alger sometime in the future. I guess if you had a Tiger basket = case with no tag you could get it approved by the DMV, but still, = wouldn=E2=80=99t be original to the car. Things that make you go Hmmm. Jim > On Jan 8, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Chris Thompson via Tigers = wrote: >=20 > He's also selling Alpine tags and original rivets. >=20 > = https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sunbeam-Alpine-VIN-and-SAL-Plates-Original-Rivets= /333462890657?_trkparms=3Daid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc= %3D20131231084308%26meid%3D5c6573b68c504de9be1e36f70743406c%26pid%3D100010= %26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D184119988045%26itm%3D333462890657%26pmt%3D0%26= noa%3D1%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=3Dp2047675.c100010.m2109 = > On 1/8/2020 5:43 PM, Warren Goodman via Tigers wrote: >> The VIN tag sale is against eBay policy's. Apparently nobody cares = enough to report the add to eBay because on their list of prohibited = items is Vin tags and rivets without the car they go to.=20 >> I don't know why Chris Richards would do this.=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 > _______________________________________________ >=20 > tigers@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers = http://autox.team.net/archive >=20 > Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jbsyv@yahoo.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_D6101410-F55B-4D27-A45C-9EAF2B2DBEAF Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 It=E2=80=99s been a while since I scrolled though the parts = listings on eBay. I reported the sale of the VIN tag sale FWIW. Also a = JAL tag listed on there. I guess someone could use rear end and engine = numbers to try and see if the tag was for YOUR car !?. 500$ for a wall = plaque seems unlikely. There are also the =E2=80=98blank=E2=80=99 tags = for sale which can be used for special construction cars so, I don=E2=80=99= t get too excited about that. I=E2=80=99m guessing that tag that sold = will end up on an Alger sometime in the future. I guess if you had a = Tiger basket case with no tag you could get it approved by the DMV, but = still, wouldn=E2=80=99t be original to the car. Things that make you go = Hmmm.

Jim

On Jan 8, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Chris Thompson via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

=20 =20

He's also selling Alpine tags and = original rivets.

  https= ://www.ebay.com/itm/Sunbeam-Alpine-VIN-and-SAL-Plates-Original-Rivets/3334= 62890657?_trkparms=3Daid%3D1110001%26algo%3DSPLICE.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20= 131231084308%26meid%3D5c6573b68c504de9be1e36f70743406c%26pid%3D100010%26rk= %3D6%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D184119988045%26itm%3D333462890657%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3= D1%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=3Dp2047675.c100010.m2109

On 1/8/2020 5:43 PM, Warren Goodman = via Tigers wrote:

The VIN tag sale = is against eBay policy's. Apparently nobody cares enough to report the add to eBay because on their list of prohibited items is Vin tags and rivets without the car they go to.
I don't know why Chris Richards would do this. 



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Thanks everyone for the great and creative suggestions.=C2= =A0 We finally found a match.=C2=A0 It is an MG TF wiper that has been shor= tened by a few inches.

Really appreciate the help.=C2=A0= =C2=A0

Tiger cross over: the MG TF green looks not= hing like the Tiger Forest Green!


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Jim

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Victoria British has an Alloy Wheel = with center caps sold separately =E2=80=93 will they = work?

http://www.victoriabritish.com/icatalog/csc/full.aspx?Page=3D161

 

 

Ron = Fraser

 

From: Tigers = <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of James = Armstrong via Tigers
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2020 10:48 = AM
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] = Minilite center cups

 

Hel= lo,

 

Jus= t had my Minilites/tires removed to have the Minilites refinished by a = local company called RimPro. When they finish, they will mount new = Vredestines.

 

The= center cups on the 1979 13" Minilites need to be replaced. Any = bright ideas on where I can get more?

UK = factory in Shropshire says they "think" they can supply, the = US source won't even give a phone or an address. No mention of centers = on their site.

 

Jim = Armstrong

Mk = 1A

382002083 = LRXFE

Code = 86

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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0088_01D5C949.DC7A0F00" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0088_01D5C949.DC7A0F00 boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0089_01D5C949.DC7A0F00" ------=_NextPart_001_0089_01D5C949.DC7A0F00 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, My tiger steering wheel could use refinishing. I will keep it under any circumstances carefully stored away. In looking at Tiger aftermarket steering wheels such as Motolita and others, none seem to support the telescoping function. In fact it is a little hard to be sure normal horn function can remain.. I wondered what others have done to support or deactivate the telescoping function and which product you might favor. Thanks. Best Regards, Rick Hyatt | President 540.257.0864 www.atmospherebuilders.com PO Box 114 Blacksburg, VA 24063 70 Virginian Dr. Christiansburg, VA 24073 ------=_NextPart_001_0089_01D5C949.DC7A0F00 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi All,

My tiger = steering wheel could use refinishing. I will keep it under any = circumstances carefully stored away. In looking at Tiger aftermarket = steering wheels such as Motolita and others, none seem to support the = telescoping function. In fact it is a little hard to be sure normal horn = function can remain.. I wondered what others have done to support or = deactivate the telescoping function and which product you might favor. = Thanks.

 

Best= Regards,

 

  Rick = Hyatt | = President=

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3D"Atmosphere

3D"*"     rick@atmospherebuilders.com

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PO Box 114 = Blacksburg, VA 24063

70 Virginian = Dr. Christiansburg, VA 24073

 

 

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from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585C9A0BDD for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2020 16:53:56 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-il1-f180.google.com (unknown [209.85.166.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAB10A0BA7 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2020 16:53:41 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-il1-f180.google.com with SMTP id z12so6575237iln.11 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2020 15:53:41 -0800 (PST) h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=uPhjM6EyksMBm31SyJqSBU5eh46zURcT7+RUBmJBPiE=; b=qWNadCYiD/nEX+fKWeuPUnd0SDpuV9a+nR449mX1HAj0wGOGoeh9a07nW+7VJmUVs4 IaU0mf7fGzFqawUkDBQawgEC+69uhFpiGvZADf/YJzFp7loQ6106AxdKyj/RM3bQgqjq uPo5re4oZpL1zzYsXqCZenUBNaDCDcFt/yg0vlX4zqfjAomPqDpVMlKQe+PvEg3cgNqt PuUprSLli9NfXoy7qHRa2MYPM0v82K31lPIR09R4QVz6BkLf3+m9/jkx/jQgjUxZsCqu i7IN8u2llVltjbzvRpOeHcpOp8CEaFNPZWtDnyDvlTQ3mYOpdn3atJgMOSrSYnBGWUxb dmzg== d=1e100.net; s=20161025; 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with a "collar" around the nut that tightens the steering shaft. It's not as convenient as the original setup (It's been so long I'd have to look up the parts... sorry...) but it can be adjusted to suit the driver's preference. And the horn will work, that too is a separate assembly. Tom, '67 Mark 2 On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 1:25 PM Richard Hyatt via Tigers < tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > Hi All, > > My tiger steering wheel could use refinishing. I will keep it under any > circumstances carefully stored away. In looking at Tiger aftermarket > steering wheels such as Motolita and others, none seem to support the > telescoping function. In fact it is a little hard to be sure normal horn > function can remain.. I wondered what others have done to support or > deactivate the telescoping function and which product you might favor. > Thanks. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Rick Hyatt | President > > [image: cid:image003.jpg@01D0A900.B6A56090] 540.257.0864 > > [image: Atmosphere blue logo 2] > > [image: *] rick@atmospherebuilders.com > > [image: *] www.atmospherebuilders.com > > PO Box 114 Blacksburg, VA 24063 > > 70 Virginian Dr. Christiansburg, VA 24073 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com > > > --0000000000007fe889059bfa111f Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It will extend the steering wheel; that's done with a = "collar" around the nut that tightens the steering shaft. It'= s not as convenient as the original setup (It's been so long I'd ha= ve to look up the parts... sorry...) but it can be adjusted to suit the dri= ver's preference. And the horn will work, that too is a separate assemb= ly.

Tom, '67 Mark 2



On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 1:25 PM Richard Hyatt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

Hi All,

My tiger steering wheel could use refinishing. I will keep i= t under any circumstances carefully stored away. In looking at Tiger afterm= arket steering wheels such as Motolita and others, none seem to support the= telescoping function. In fact it is a little hard to be sure normal horn f= unction can remain.. I wondered what others have done to support or deactiv= ate the telescoping function and which product you might favor. Thanks.<= /u>

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There is an extender at the end of the threaded rod in the center of the steering column. This extender goes into the back of the Alpine/Tiger center knob that loosens to allow the telescoping to work. I took off the extender and replaced it with two nuts. To move the wheel, I now have to take off the horn button, and use to wrenches. But to be honest, I haven't moved it again since I did that - and I really don't let anyone else drive it. If they did, and they didn't like where I want it, tough! Oh, as to the two nuts, when they are both loosened, the steering wheel is free to moved forward and back. Then when I have it where I want it, I tighten the bottom nut down. Then I use the second nut as a jam nut to hold the first nut in place. On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 10:25 AM Richard Hyatt via Tigers < tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > Hi All, > > My tiger steering wheel could use refinishing. I will keep it under any > circumstances carefully stored away. In looking at Tiger aftermarket > steering wheels such as Motolita and others, none seem to support the > telescoping function. In fact it is a little hard to be sure normal horn > function can remain.. I wondered what others have done to support or > deactivate the telescoping function and which product you might favor. > Thanks. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Rick Hyatt | President > > [image: cid:image003.jpg@01D0A900.B6A56090] 540.257.0864 > > [image: Atmosphere blue logo 2] > > [image: *] rick@atmospherebuilders.com > > [image: *] www.atmospherebuilders.com > > PO Box 114 Blacksburg, VA 24063 > > 70 Virginian Dr. Christiansburg, VA 24073 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com > > > --00000000000041fdfc059bfa9e2b Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I did make a Motolita work on my Alpine.=C2=A0 There is an= extender at the end of the threaded rod in the center of the steering colu= mn.=C2=A0 This extender goes into the back of the Alpine/Tiger center knob = that loosens to allow the telescoping to work.=C2=A0 I took off the extende= r and replaced it with two nuts.=C2=A0 To move the wheel, I now have to tak= e off the horn button, and use to wrenches.=C2=A0 But to be honest, I haven= 't moved it again since I did that - and I really don't let anyone = else drive it.=C2=A0 If they did, and they didn't like where I want it,= tough!

Oh, as to the two nuts, when they are both loose= ned, the steering wheel is free to moved forward and back.=C2=A0 Then when = I have it where I want it, I tighten the bottom nut down.=C2=A0 Then I use = the second nut as a jam nut to hold the first nut in place.

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On Sun, Ja= n 12, 2020 at 10:25 AM Richard Hyatt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

Hi All,

My tiger steering wheel could use refini= shing. I will keep it under any circumstances carefully stored away. In loo= king at Tiger aftermarket steering wheels such as Motolita and others, none= seem to support the telescoping function. In fact it is a little hard to b= e sure normal horn function can remain.. I wondered what others have done t= o support or deactivate the telescoping function and which product you migh= t favor. Thanks.

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Mon, 13 Jan 2020 07:37:28 -0700 To: "'Jay Laifman'" References: <008701d5c973$c54f53b0$4fedfb10$@atmospherebuilders.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 09:37:31 -0500 Thread-Index: AQHfLolMMCpl93dInm6O2wCrf9CUZQFAJDGnp8vfEVA= Content-Language: en-us please include it with any abuse report [73.12.117.231]:62719 Subject: Re: [Tigers] after market steering wheels From: Richard Hyatt via Tigers Cc: 'Tiger's Den' Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============8312271239453213838== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_018A_01D5C9F5.14E04430" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_018A_01D5C9F5.14E04430 boundary="----=_NextPart_001_018B_01D5C9F5.14E04430" ------=_NextPart_001_018B_01D5C9F5.14E04430 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jay, Thanks that makes sense. The telescoping feature is interesting but like = you indicate just finding the comfortable distance for the normal driver = will be fine. Rick =20 =20 =20 From: Jay Laifman =20 Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 7:33 PM To: rick@atmospherebuilders.com Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] after market steering wheels =20 I did make a Motolita work on my Alpine. There is an extender at the = end of the threaded rod in the center of the steering column. This = extender goes into the back of the Alpine/Tiger center knob that loosens = to allow the telescoping to work. I took off the extender and replaced = it with two nuts. To move the wheel, I now have to take off the horn = button, and use to wrenches. But to be honest, I haven't moved it again = since I did that - and I really don't let anyone else drive it. If they = did, and they didn't like where I want it, tough! =20 Oh, as to the two nuts, when they are both loosened, the steering wheel = is free to moved forward and back. Then when I have it where I want it, = I tighten the bottom nut down. Then I use the second nut as a jam nut = to hold the first nut in place. =20 On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 10:25 AM Richard Hyatt via Tigers = Hi All, My tiger steering wheel could use refinishing. I will keep it under any = circumstances carefully stored away. In looking at Tiger aftermarket = steering wheels such as Motolita and others, none seem to support the = telescoping function. In fact it is a little hard to be sure normal horn = function can remain.. I wondered what others have done to support or = deactivate the telescoping function and which product you might favor. = Thanks. =20 Best Regards, =20 Rick Hyatt | President 540.257.0864=20 www.atmospherebuilders.com PO Box 114 Blacksburg, VA 24063 70 Virginian Dr. Christiansburg, VA 24073 =20 =20 _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers = http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com ------=_NextPart_001_018B_01D5C9F5.14E04430 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi = Jay,

Thanks that makes sense. The = telescoping feature is interesting but like you indicate just finding = the comfortable distance for the normal driver will be = fine.

Rick

 

 

 

From: = Jay Laifman <jay.laifman@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, = January 12, 2020 7:33 PM
To: = rick@atmospherebuilders.com
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Subject: Re: [Tigers] after = market steering wheels

 

I did = make a Motolita work on my Alpine.  There is an extender at the end = of the threaded rod in the center of the steering column.  This = extender goes into the back of the Alpine/Tiger center knob that loosens = to allow the telescoping to work.  I took off the extender and = replaced it with two nuts.  To move the wheel, I now have to take = off the horn button, and use to wrenches.  But to be honest, I = haven't moved it again since I did that - and I really don't let anyone = else drive it.  If they did, and they didn't like where I want it, = tough!

 

Oh, as to the two nuts, when they are both loosened, = the steering wheel is free to moved forward and back.  Then when I = have it where I want it, I tighten the bottom nut down.  Then I use = the second nut as a jam nut to hold the first nut in = place.

 

On = Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 10:25 AM Richard Hyatt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> = wrote:

Hi = All,

My tiger = steering wheel could use refinishing. I will keep it under any = circumstances carefully stored away. In looking at Tiger aftermarket = steering wheels such as Motolita and others, none seem to support the = telescoping function. In fact it is a little hard to be sure normal horn = function can remain.. I wondered what others have done to support or = deactivate the telescoping function and which product you might favor. = Thanks.

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quoted-printable The switch to a smaller, thicker rim steering wheel pays big dividends when= you're driving hard...just getting rid of the hand/leg interference issue = with the bus sized OEM wheel helps a bunch. The stock wheel is pretty, though! -----Original Message----- From: Richard Hyatt via Tigers To: 'Jay Laifman' Cc: 'Tiger's Den' Sent: Mon, Jan 13, 2020 6:37 am Subject: Re: [Tigers] after market steering wheels #yiv3279233489 #yiv3279233489 -- _filtered {} _filtered {} #yiv3279233489 #= yiv3279233489 p.yiv3279233489MsoNormal, #yiv3279233489 li.yiv3279233489MsoN= ormal, #yiv3279233489 div.yiv3279233489MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:= .0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;} #yiv3279233489 a:link, #y= iv3279233489 span.yiv3279233489MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:und= erline;} #yiv3279233489 span.yiv3279233489EmailStyle18 {font-family:sans-se= rif;color:windowtext;} #yiv3279233489 .yiv3279233489MsoChpDefault {font-fam= ily:sans-serif;} _filtered {} #yiv3279233489 div.yiv3279233489WordSection1 = {} #yiv3279233489=20 Hi Jay, Thanks that makes sense. The telescoping feature is interesting but like yo= u indicate just finding the comfortable distance for the normal driver will= be fine. Rick =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 From: Jay Laifman =20 Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 7:33 PM To: rick@atmospherebuilders.com Cc: Tiger's Den Subject: Re: [Tigers] after market steering wheels =C2=A0 I did make a Motolita work on my Alpine.=C2=A0 There is an extender at the = end of the threaded rod in the center of the steering column.=C2=A0 This ex= tender goes into the back of the Alpine/Tiger center knob that loosens to a= llow the telescoping to work.=C2=A0 I took off the extender and replaced it= with two nuts.=C2=A0 To move the wheel, I now have to take off the horn bu= tton, and use to wrenches.=C2=A0 But to be honest, I haven't moved it again= since I did that - and I really don't let anyone else drive it.=C2=A0 If t= hey did, and they didn't like where I want it, tough! =C2=A0 Oh, as to the two nuts, when they are both loosened, the steering wheel is = free to moved forward and back.=C2=A0 Then when I have it where I want it, = I tighten the bottom nut down.=C2=A0 Then I use the second nut as a jam nut= to hold the first nut in place. =C2=A0 On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 10:25 AM Richard Hyatt via Tigers wrote: Hi All, My tiger steering wheel could use refinishing. I will keep it under any cir= cumstances carefully stored away. In looking at Tiger aftermarket steering = wheels such as Motolita and others, none seem to support the telescoping fu= nction. In fact it is a little hard to be sure normal horn function can rem= ain.. I wondered what others have done to support or deactivate the telesco= ping function and which product you might favor. Thanks. =C2=A0 Best Regards, =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Rick Hyatt | President =C2=A0 =C2=A0540.257.0864=20 |=20 |=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 rick@atmospherebuilders.com | |=20 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 www.atmospherebuilders.com | |=20 PO Box 114 Blacksburg, VA 24063 70 Virginian Dr. Christiansburg, VA 24073 | =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail= .com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mwood24020@aol.co= m ------=_Part_7114880_720817513.1578935096973 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The switch to a smaller, thicker rim steering wheel pays big = dividends when you're driving hard...just getting rid of the hand/leg inter= ference issue with the bus sized OEM wheel helps a bunch.

The stock = wheel is pretty, though!




-----Original Message-----
F= rom: Richard Hyatt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
To: 'Jay Lai= fman' <jay.laifman@gmail.com>
Cc: 'Tiger's Den' <tigers@autox.t= eam.net>
Sent: Mon, Jan 13, 2020 6:37 am
Subject: Re: [Tigers] aft= er market steering wheels

Hi Jay,

Thanks that makes sense. The telescoping feature is interesti= ng but like you indicate just finding the comfortable distance for the norm= al driver will be fine.

Rick

 

 

 

From: Jay Laifman <jay.laifman@gmail.com> <= br clear=3D"none">Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2020 7:33 PM
To: rick@atmospherebuilders.com
Cc: = Tiger's Den <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject:= Re: [Tigers] after market steering wheels

 

I did make a Mot= olita work on my Alpine.  There is an extender at the end of the threa= ded rod in the center of the steering column.  This extender goes into= the back of the Alpine/Tiger center knob that loosens to allow the telesco= ping to work.  I took off the extender and replaced it with two nuts.&= nbsp; To move the wheel, I now have to take off the horn button, and use to= wrenches.  But to be honest, I haven't moved it again since I did tha= t - and I really don't let anyone else drive it.  If they did, and the= y didn't like where I want it, tough!

 

Oh, as to = the two nuts, when they are both loosened, the steering wheel is free to mo= ved forward and back.  Then when I have it where I want it, I tighten = the bottom nut down.  Then I use the second nut as a jam nut to hold t= he first nut in place.

=  

On Sun, Jan 12, 202= 0 at 10:25 AM Richard Hyatt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

Hi All,

My tiger steering wheel could use refinishing. I will keep it under any = circumstances carefully stored away. In looking at Tiger aftermarket steeri= ng wheels such as Motolita and others, none seem to support the telescoping= function. In fact it is a little hard to be sure normal horn function can = remain.. I wondered what others have done to support or deactivate the tele= scoping function and which product you might favor. Thanks.

 

Best Regards,

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  Rick Hyatt | President

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Tue, 14 Jan 2020 17:11:37 +0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 17:11:36 +0000 (UTC) To: "tigers@autox.team.net" References: <32906050.13275651.1579021896857.ref@mail.yahoo.com> x64; rv:72.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/72.0 Subject: [Tigers] Fuel Gauge Behavior From: Terry Packer via Tigers Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============8136413958547628630== boundary="----=_Part_13275650_1876192722.1579021896855" ------=_Part_13275650_1876192722.1579021896855 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit When I turn on the ignition, the fuel gauge rises to indicate the proper amount of fuel in the tank. But it reaches that point over several seconds in lurches as if the indicator hangs up temporarily. I'm curious whether that is normal (or at least common) or whether it indicates a fault? Since this happens even with a full tank of fuel (the tank sender already at the limit of its travel) it would seem the cause is in the gauge. As the tank empties during driving the gauge always performs normally without any apparent hitches. Besides the possibility of mechanical binding, I was wondering whether our Jaeger analog instruments ever benefit from lubrication or is it intended that the movements remain dry for their lifetimes? ThanksTerry Packer ------=_Part_13275650_1876192722.1579021896855 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When I turn on the ignition, the fuel gauge rises t= o indicate the proper amount of fuel in the tank. But it reaches that point= over several seconds in lurches as if the indicator hangs up temporarily. = I'm curious whether that is normal (or at least common) or whether it indic= ates a fault? Since this happens even with a full tank of fuel (the t= ank sender already at the limit of its travel) it would seem the cause is i= n the gauge. As the tank empties during driving the gauge always pe= rforms normally without any apparent hitches.

Beside= s the possibility of mechanical binding, I was wondering whether our Jaeger= analog instruments ever benefit from lubrication or is it intended that th= e movements remain dry for their lifetimes?

Thanks
<= div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Terry Packer

------=_Part_13275650_1876192722.1579021896855-- --===============8136413958547628630== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net --===============8136413958547628630==-- From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Jan 14 11:06:19 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A03A118A for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 11:06:19 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net (unknown [69.252.207.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488ABA1162 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 11:06:09 -0700 (MST) Received: from resomta-ch2-20v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.116]) by resqmta-ch2-09v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id rMuwil4Zf6jmhrQZsi5UWl; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 18:06:08 +0000 s=20190202a; t=1579025168; bh=GV764XaHtw1Az2Vq5lYjG6yldRl2wMBxbmeslfOacsg=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=qk7mFBGo8vPrJ8Vs5YcyJuXTpJv62rr4aB1aZQQW5j39+OkVFl4fBq8DRILGRpHTX 57cn9NpgyuT5X5BmJlYI7Vg/rsrsy9B1dsfLNk/vozS/lXDBHtdt4SwV535NKlOf7+ 1r0a02kdeWn0LLsUoQcr/XERAxn+GgWIdKt30vNeYI72ZfufU3vpbKD3G/T9asseGv WQoutOMP5VkvZvYAb9TcfpIuBkwLyI3ce27xzW90ir5UocXoSvBNnSk/A6MkHTPHIi kqhpxkuEm5cOWgukyR7o91ZRHpNBrWjtDMrSgC0Vew5t89s7GoaJb2ct41jKfVQiyK sjGdf+yoJj+pA== Received: from [IPv6:2601:204:4002:fb90:2d0f:9d47:322f:fa43] ([IPv6:2601:204:4002:fb90:2d0f:9d47:322f:fa43]) by resomta-ch2-20v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPA id rQZqiOSpo0kUurQZriIglD; Tue, 14 Jan 2020 18:06:08 +0000 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 10:06:05 -0800 References: <32906050.13275651.1579021896857@mail.yahoo.com> To: Terry Packer Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fuel Gauge Behavior From: Gary via Tigers Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6395596293967523420== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --Apple-Mail-BD71C6FF-61A2-438F-AFF6-1306D1949391 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Terry, Not normal, you are right, some mechanical=20 binding in the gauge. If it=E2=80=99s been sitting for a long time, it may correct itself after some use. It comes apart easily and might be an opportunity to repaint the needle and clean the inside of the glass! Be gentle though. Gary Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 14, 2020, at 9:11 AM, Terry Packer via Tigers wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > When I turn on the ignition, the fuel gauge rises to indicate the proper a= mount of fuel in the tank. But it reaches that point over several seconds in= lurches as if the indicator hangs up temporarily. I'm curious whether that i= s normal (or at least common) or whether it indicates a fault? Since this ha= ppens even with a full tank of fuel (the tank sender already at the limit of= its travel) it would seem the cause is in the gauge. As the tank empties du= ring driving the gauge always performs normally without any apparent hitches= .=20 >=20 > Besides the possibility of mechanical binding, I was wondering whether our= Jaeger analog instruments ever benefit from lubrication or is it intended t= hat the movements remain dry for their lifetimes? >=20 > Thanks > Terry Packer >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ >=20 > tigers@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archiv= e >=20 > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/garywinblad@comc= ast.net >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail-BD71C6FF-61A2-438F-AFF6-1306D1949391 charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Terry,
Not normal, you are right, some m= echanical 
binding in the gauge.  If it=E2=80=99s been s= itting for
a long time, it may correct itself after some
use.  It comes apart easily and might be an
opportunity to r= epaint the needle and clean
the inside of the glass!  Be gent= le though.
Gary

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On Jan 14, 2020, at 9:11 AM, T= erry Packer via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF
When I turn on th= e ignition, the fuel gauge rises to indicate the proper amount of fuel in th= e tank. But it reaches that point over several seconds in lurches as if the i= ndicator hangs up temporarily. I'm curious whether that is normal (or at lea= st common) or whether it indicates a fault? Since this happens even wi= th a full tank of fuel (the tank sender already at the limit of its travel) i= t would seem the cause is in the gauge. As the tank empties during d= riving the gauge always performs normally without any apparent hitches.
=

Besides the possibility of mechanical binding, I was wonde= ring whether our Jaeger analog instruments ever benefit from lubrication or i= s it intended that the movements remain dry for their lifetimes?

Thanks
Terry Packer


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Hi,

As I slowly work through the world&= #39;s slowest restoration I'm finally to the point where I can almost d= rive my Tiger.=C2=A0 I have it on jack stands and I've been fixing vari= ous little leaks here and there and the other day I fired it up and put it = gear to make sure I had the clutch set up right.=C2=A0 With the rear wheels= spinning I happened to look at the passenger side and saw a noticeable=C2= =A0wobble.=C2=A0 Many, many years ago when I bought the car from the origin= al owner it had been in a rear end collision and I'm guessing that'= s when the passenger side of the axle got messed up.=C2=A0=C2=A0
=
The brake drum was very hard to get off and the lugs don'= ;t look very good.=C2=A0 I put a dial gauge on the hub and it seems like it= is bent in by one of the lugs about .007".=C2=A0 I'm taking the a= xle back out of the car and taking it to a axle shop to get their opinion.= =C2=A0 If I need a new hub I'm wondering if anybody knows where I get a= new or good used hub.=C2=A0 I see that SS has axles but not hubs.=C2=A0=C2= =A0

Anybody know where I can get one if I need it?= =C2=A0 Or has anybody successfully straightened one out?

Thanks,
Joe Brown
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I put a dial gauge on the hub and it seems like it is bent in by one of the lugs about .007".=C2=A0 I'm taking the axle back out of the car and taking = it to a axle shop to get their opinion.=C2=A0 If I need a new hub I'm wondering i= f anybody knows where I get a new or good used hub.=C2=A0 I see that SS has a= xles but not hubs. Anybody know where I can get one if I need it?=C2=A0 Or has anybody success= fully straightened one out? Thanks, Joe Brown -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ Tigers mailing list Tigers@autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive ------------------------------ End of Tigers Digest, Vol 12, Issue 14 ************************************** ------=_Part_10881289_1794320069.1579819720949 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
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Hi,

As I slowly work through the world's slowest restoration I'm finally to the
point where I can almost drive my Tiger.  I have it on jack stands and I've
been fixing various little leaks here and there and the other day I fired
it up and put it gear to make sure I had the clutch set up right.  With the
rear wheels spinning I happened to look at the passenger side and saw a
noticeable wobble.  Many, many years ago when I bought the car from the
original owner it had been in a rear end collision and I'm guessing that's
when the passenger side of the axle got messed up.

The brake drum was very hard to get off and the lugs don't look very good.
I put a dial gauge on the hub and it seems like it is bent in by one of the
lugs about .007".  I'm taking the axle back out of the car and taking it to
a axle shop to get their opinion.  If I need a new hub I'm wondering if
anybody knows where I get a new or good used hub.  I see that SS has axles
but not hubs.

Anybody know where I can get one if I need it?  Or has anybody successfully
straightened one out?

Thanks,
Joe Brown
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The owner said he has worked on Tigers before and thought they were great. A younger guy in the shop said "a what". On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 4:49 PM clyde mclaughlin via Tigers < tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > HiJoe, If its only .007 out of true, remove the studs and have a machinist > turn the face of the hub down until it is true, even .010 machined off will > not effect the performance of the hub, Clyde > > > -----Original Message----- > From: tigers-request > To: tigers > Sent: Thu, Jan 23, 2020 2:02 pm > Subject: Tigers Digest, Vol 12, Issue 14 > > Send Tigers mailing list submissions to > tigers@autox.team.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/tigers > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > tigers-request@autox.team.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > tigers-owner@autox.team.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Tigers digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Bent Hub? 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Many, many years ago when I bought the car from the > original owner it had been in a rear end collision and I'm guessing that's > when the passenger side of the axle got messed up. > > The brake drum was very hard to get off and the lugs don't look very good. > I put a dial gauge on the hub and it seems like it is bent in by one of the > lugs about .007". I'm taking the axle back out of the car and taking it to > a axle shop to get their opinion. If I need a new hub I'm wondering if > anybody knows where I get a new or good used hub. I see that SS has axles > but not hubs. > > Anybody know where I can get one if I need it? 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I took it to a shop today that works on transmissions and= axles and they are going to take a look at it. The owner said he has worke= d on Tigers before and thought they were great. A younger guy in the shop s= aid "a what".

On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 4:49 PM clyde mclaughlin via T= igers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
HiJoe, If its only .007 out of t= rue, remove the studs and have a machinist turn the face of the hub down un= til it is true, even .010 machined off will not effect the performance of t= he hub, Clyde


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Subject: [Tigers] Bent Hub?
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Hi,

As I slowly work through the world's slowest restorati= on I'm finally to the
point where I can almost drive my Tiger.=C2=A0 I have it o= n jack stands and I've
been fixing various little leaks here and there and the ot= her day I fired
it up and put it gear to make sure I had the clutch set up= right.=C2=A0 With the
rear wheels spinning I happened to look at the passenger s= ide and saw a
noticeable wobble.=C2=A0 Many, many years ago when I bough= t the car from the
original owner it had been in a rear end collision and I&#= 39;m guessing that's
when the passenger side of the axle got messed up.

The brake drum was very hard to get off and the lugs don&#= 39;t look very good.
I put a dial gauge on the hub and it seems like it is bent= in by one of the
lugs about .007".=C2=A0 I'm taking the axle back = out of the car and taking it to
a axle shop to get their opinion.=C2=A0 If I need a new hu= b I'm wondering if
anybody knows where I get a new or good used hub.=C2=A0 I = see that SS has axles
but not hubs.

Anybody know where I can get one if I need it?=C2=A0 Or ha= s anybody successfully
straightened one out?

Thanks,
Joe Brown
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I am restoring my hardtop and need all of the rubber, weatherstrip and head= liner. Does anyone know where I might find these?
Thanks
Bob
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Sunbeam Specialties.= I just ordered all these items for the restoration of my hardtop.

Jim Lindner



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Thanks
Bob
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