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I&#= 39;ve seen the Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the seat= s, but his seats were earlier than mine and had the straps.=C2=A0 My seats = from my Mk 1A=C2=A0 have the rubber diaphragm.=C2=A0 Is there any info on l= ine about restoring Mk 1A seats?=C2=A0 I want to be sure I know what I'= m getting into before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or ripping min= e apart.

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[2603:8001:b403:34c2:315f:1a1d:a2ae:eb1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id g21sm6506556pjl.28.2021.04.01.17.03.45 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 01 Apr 2021 17:03:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 17:03:44 -0700 To: Stu References: Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild From: Jay via Tigers Cc: Tigers Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0560629122717906877== boundary="Apple-Mail=_90595170-06AB-47F4-B763-530564434039" --Apple-Mail=_90595170-06AB-47F4-B763-530564434039 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 I can tell you about when I did it on my SV Alpine, which I believe is = the same. I used the foam from SS and the diaphragm. Wow, what a = difference the seat was once it was correct. I had previously replaced = the original diaphragm with straps and clips I got at the local = upholstery store. Worked ok, but the correct foam and diaphragm was a = revelation. I have to tell you, I don=E2=80=99t remember right now what I did to = stretch the rubber to put the clips in. I do remember that getting the = correct size clips was important - as I didn=E2=80=99t have all the = originals. I remember talking to Rick about it (It was about 25 years = ago now). I think I made some sort of grabber with a pliers. I also had to remake the cardboard that went along the back of the = frame, inside the seat covers. That took a long time to get right. I = had to experiment with different thicknesses of cardboard and some steam = to get it right. =20 I spent a bunch of time cleaning off the metal and painting it. Mine = were not bad. But on a non-Sunbeam that I redid the seats on, there was = a bit of rust. Almost made me wish I left them alone - but in the end, = they are stronger now. Also, when I cut the vinyl around the two bottom edges, I cut it wrong. = So it doesn=E2=80=99t cover exactly right down there. Pissed me off. = It=E2=80=99s ok. I don=E2=80=99t think anyone would ever notice. But = I=E2=80=99m usually pretty good at seeing how things are supposed to be = cut. So I guess I=E2=80=99m only suggesting you take time there to make = sure it=E2=80=99s right before you cut. Perhaps I just totally blew it = and it would be obvious if I did it again. I was careful to epoxy the center section of the seat bottom into the = square hold in the foam before doing anything. That=E2=80=99s still = holding 25 years later and I=E2=80=99m glad I did it. I see folks where = their seat bottom vinyl just floats. That=E2=80=99s not a good look, to = me. Oh, and I=E2=80=99ve also seen on some cars people say they cover the = seat backs with a large plastic bag before pulling on the upholstery. I = never did that because I didn=E2=80=99t want it to make crinkly noises = every time I moved. It was hard to slide it down. It took a lot of = squeezing and pressing a little at a time. I don=E2=80=99t know if it = would have been smarter to do the bag trick. That=E2=80=99s all I remember. Hope this helps. Jay On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:52 PM, Stu via Tigers = wrote: I've seen the Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the = seats, but his seats were earlier than mine and had the straps. My = seats from my Mk 1A have the rubber diaphragm. Is there any info on = line about restoring Mk 1A seats? I want to be sure I know what I'm = getting into before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or ripping = mine apart. Stu _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers = http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com --Apple-Mail=_90595170-06AB-47F4-B763-530564434039 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 I = can tell you about when I did it on my SV Alpine, which I believe is the = same.  I used the foam from SS and the diaphragm.  Wow, what a = difference the seat was once it was correct.  I had previously = replaced the original diaphragm with straps and clips I got at the local = upholstery store.  Worked ok, but the correct foam and diaphragm = was a revelation.

I = have to tell you, I don=E2=80=99t remember right now what I did to = stretch the rubber to put the clips in.  I do remember that getting = the correct size clips was important - as I didn=E2=80=99t have all the = originals.  I remember talking to Rick about it (It was about 25 = years ago now).  I think I made some sort of grabber with a = pliers.

I also = had to remake the cardboard that went along the back of the frame, = inside the seat covers.  That took a long time to get right. =  I had to experiment with different thicknesses of cardboard and = some steam to get it right.  

I spent a bunch of time cleaning off = the metal and painting it.  Mine were not bad.  But on a = non-Sunbeam that I redid the seats on, there was a bit of rust. =  Almost made me wish I left them alone - but in the end, they are = stronger now.

Also, when I cut the vinyl around the two bottom edges, I cut = it wrong.  So it doesn=E2=80=99t cover exactly right down there. =  Pissed me off.  It=E2=80=99s ok.  I don=E2=80=99t think = anyone would ever notice.  But I=E2=80=99m usually pretty good at = seeing how things are supposed to be cut.  So I guess I=E2=80=99m = only suggesting you take time there to make sure it=E2=80=99s right = before you cut.  Perhaps I just totally blew it and it would be = obvious if I did it again.

I was careful to epoxy the center section of the seat bottom = into the square hold in the foam before doing anything.  That=E2=80=99= s still holding 25 years later and I=E2=80=99m glad I did it.  I = see folks where their seat bottom vinyl just floats.  That=E2=80=99s = not a good look, to me.

Oh, and I=E2=80=99ve also seen on some cars people say they = cover the seat backs with a large plastic bag before pulling on the = upholstery.  I never did that because I didn=E2=80=99t want it to = make crinkly noises every time I moved.  It was hard to slide it = down.  It took a lot of squeezing and pressing a little at a time. =  I don=E2=80=99t know if it would have been smarter to do the bag = trick.

That=E2=80= =99s all I remember.  Hope this helps.

Jay



On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:52 PM, Stu via Tigers = <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

I've = seen the Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the seats, = but his seats were earlier than mine and had the straps.  My seats = from my Mk 1A  have the rubber diaphragm.  Is there any info = on line about restoring Mk 1A seats?  I want to be sure I know what = I'm getting into before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or = ripping mine apart.

Stu
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Fri, 2 Apr 2021 00:03:49 +0000 Received: by kubenode506.mail-prod1.omega.gq1.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID c235d7ffde704c3a2da4f835a586d6c0; Fri, 02 Apr 2021 00:03:48 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2021 17:03:44 -0700 To: Stu References: Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild From: Jim B via Tigers Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3554526997986830576== boundary="Apple-Mail=_DBF55BC2-619C-492A-82E7-B82A80993EB5" --Apple-Mail=_DBF55BC2-619C-492A-82E7-B82A80993EB5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=us-ascii This article helped me a lot when I did mine. There are others as well. https://teae.org/how-to-restore-your-seats/ = Hope this helps, Jim > On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:52 PM, Stu via Tigers = wrote: >=20 > I've seen the Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the = seats, but his seats were earlier than mine and had the straps. My = seats from my Mk 1A have the rubber diaphragm. Is there any info on = line about restoring Mk 1A seats? I want to be sure I know what I'm = getting into before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or ripping = mine apart. >=20 > Stu > _______________________________________________ >=20 > tigers@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers = http://autox.team.net/archive >=20 > Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jbsyv@yahoo.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_DBF55BC2-619C-492A-82E7-B82A80993EB5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=us-ascii This article helped me a lot when I did mine. = There are others as well.


Hope this helps,

Jim

On = Apr 1, 2021, at 4:52 PM, Stu via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

I've = seen the Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the seats, = but his seats were earlier than mine and had the straps.  My seats = from my Mk 1A  have the rubber diaphragm.  Is there any info = on line about restoring Mk 1A seats?  I want to be sure I know what = I'm getting into before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or = ripping mine apart.

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Figured it might last longer before saggin= g. Also put an extra foam piece across the bar at the front of the seat....= ..for 2 reasons....wanted extra thigh support and to delay the metal bar ev= entually eating through the foam.=C2=A0 Worked for me.=C2=A0 Mark L=C2=A0In= a message dated 4/1/2021 7:53:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, tigers@autox.te= am.net writes:=C2=A0 I've seen the Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the seats= , but his seats were earlier than mine and had the straps.=C2=A0 My seats f= rom my Mk 1A=C2=A0 have the rubber diaphragm.=C2=A0 Is there any info on li= ne about restoring Mk 1A seats?=C2=A0 I want to be sure I know what I'm get= ting into before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or ripping mine apa= rt.=C2=A0Stu_______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/coolvt@aol.com ------=_Part_39332_2062050358.1617323403103 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Mine had the diaphragm.  I replaced with the diaphragm plus added straps from a local upholstery shop. Figured it might last longer before sagging. Also put an extra foam piece across the bar at the front of the seat......for 2 reasons....wanted extra thigh support and to delay the metal bar eventually eating through the foam.  Worked for me.  Mark L
 
In a message dated 4/1/2021 7:53:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, tigers@autox.team.net writes:
 
I've seen the Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the seats, but his seats were earlier than mine and had the straps.  My seats from my Mk 1A  have the rubber diaphragm.  Is there any info on line about restoring Mk 1A seats?  I want to be sure I know what I'm getting into before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or ripping mine apart.
 
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What I thought I was going to need was = the rubber diaphragm kit. The best of the best frames that I ended up = using were earlier with the straps. (Still have the diaphragms) Mine = being an early IA I think they are actually correct. There are other = differences in the frames from early to late as I understand it and can = be seen in base construction. The attachments for the straps vs = diaphragm are different. That=E2=80=99s what my old brain remembers from = a few years ago anyway. Other than that, I think the kits from Rick are = pretty much interchangeable and a fairly easy redo. Jim > On Apr 1, 2021, at 4:52 PM, Stu via Tigers = wrote: >=20 > I've seen the Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the = seats, but his seats were earlier than mine and had the straps. My = seats from my Mk 1A have the rubber diaphragm. Is there any info on = line about restoring Mk 1A seats? I want to be sure I know what I'm = getting into before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or ripping = mine apart. >=20 > Stu > _______________________________________________ >=20 > tigers@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers = http://autox.team.net/archive >=20 > Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jbsyv@yahoo.com >=20 >=20 --Apple-Mail=_2DB65A76-958F-4A06-93FD-137691E57B65 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 I started from scratch since my MKIA = was Missing the original seats. Months of Ebay and club member = contacts later I made up two matching seats that were in good shape. = What I thought I was going to need was the rubber diaphragm kit. The = best of the best frames that I ended up using were earlier with the = straps. (Still have the diaphragms) Mine being an early IA I think = they are actually correct. There are other differences in the = frames from early to late as I understand it and can be seen in = base construction. The attachments for the straps vs diaphragm are = different. That=E2=80=99s what my old brain remembers from a few years = ago anyway. Other than that, I think the kits from Rick are pretty much = interchangeable and a fairly easy redo.

Jim

On Apr = 1, 2021, at 4:52 PM, Stu via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

I've = seen the Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the seats, = but his seats were earlier than mine and had the straps.  My seats = from my Mk 1A  have the rubber diaphragm.  Is there any info = on line about restoring Mk 1A seats?  I want to be sure I know what = I'm getting into before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or = ripping mine apart.

Stu
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= --Apple-Mail=_2DB65A76-958F-4A06-93FD-137691E57B65-- --===============4678143932278803449== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net --===============4678143932278803449==-- From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 2 08:58:46 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45846A1048 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2021 08:58:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@Autox.Team.Net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (unknown [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC6CA0F82 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2021 08:57:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta001.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.16.0.43/8.16.0.43) with SMTP id 132EvTDN006291; Fri, 2 Apr 2021 07:57:48 -0700 Received: by m0116791.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 48fb4670) id m0116791.6062203f.1aa4a; Fri, 2 Apr 2021 07:57:45 -0700 To: "'Stu'" References: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 10:57:44 -0400 Thread-Index: AQFC38TvTJXl8TS76OceqgwBJQBWDKvJ1rTg Content-Language: en-us definitions=2021-04-02_09:2021-04-01, 2021-04-02 signatures=0 mlxlogscore=999 clxscore=1011 impostorscore=0 mlxscore=0 priorityscore=1501 phishscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 bulkscore=0 suspectscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2103310000 definitions=main-2104020110 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Cc: tigers@Autox.Team.Net Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============0772065336811473278== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0008_01D727AF.053A35E0" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01D727AF.053A35E0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stu=20 1st you need to determine which style seat you have and = compare to the illustrations in the SS catalog . Joe = Parlanti=E2=80=99s article is excellent for that style seat cover and = similar covers but there is also a seat cover with a separate center = section. Once you know which style, you can make an order. =20 No matter which style seat you have =E2=80=93 always take pictures and = take really good notes as you disassemble the seats. Disassembly is the easy part =E2=80=93 its understanding the assembly = process that takes time and thought to organize. Some parts may be SIDED so carefully note and mark them. =20 Check the condition of all the hardware and fasteners =E2=80=93 SS has = most of them available. I had to also buy a couple of taps and dies, 1/4=E2=80=9D x 26 BSF and = 5/16=E2=80=9D x 22 BSF, to clear up some threads. =20 I had bad luck a long time ago with the rubber diaphragms; they ripped = and fell apart too quickly. I=E2=80=99m not sure where I got those = diaphragms but the ones I got from SS are doing nicely. =20 I believe the way to install the rubber diaphragms is to attach diagonal = corners 1st then attach the rest of the clips. The corners should be = fairly easy but the rest of them may become more difficult and require = more effort as you proceed. It has been way too long since I did any = of this work so work carefully. =20 Hope this helps =20 Ron Fraser =20 From: Tigers On Behalf Of Stu via Tigers Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 7:52 PM To: Tiger Net Subject: [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild =20 I've seen the Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the = seats, but his seats were earlier than mine and had the straps. My = seats from my Mk 1A have the rubber diaphragm. Is there any info on = line about restoring Mk 1A seats? I want to be sure I know what I'm = getting into before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or ripping = mine apart. =20 Stu ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01D727AF.053A35E0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Stu

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1st you need to determine = which style seat you have and compare to the illustrations in the SS = catalog .=C2=A0=C2=A0 Joe Parlanti=E2=80=99s article is excellent for = that style seat cover and similar covers but there is also a seat cover = with a separate center section.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Once you know which style, = you can make an order.

 

No matter = which style seat you have =E2=80=93 always take pictures and take really = good notes as you disassemble the seats.

Disassembly is the easy part =E2=80=93 its = understanding the assembly process that takes time and thought to = organize.

Some parts may be SIDED so = carefully note and mark them.

 

Check the = condition of all the hardware and fasteners =E2=80=93 SS has most of = them available.

I had to also buy a = couple of taps and dies, 1/4=E2=80=9D x 26 BSF and 5/16=E2=80=9D x 22 = BSF, to clear up some threads.

 

I had bad = luck a long time ago with the rubber diaphragms; they ripped and fell = apart too quickly.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m not sure where I got those = diaphragms but the ones I got from SS are doing nicely.

 

I believe = the way to install the rubber diaphragms is to attach diagonal corners = 1st then attach the rest of the clips.=C2=A0=C2=A0 The = corners should be fairly easy but the rest of them may become more = difficult and require more effort as you proceed.=C2=A0=C2=A0 It has = been way too long since I did any of this work so work = carefully.

 

Hope this helps

 

Ron = Fraser

 

From: Tigers = <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Stu via = Tigers
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 7:52 PM
To: = Tiger Net <Tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Mk = 1A Seat Rebuild

 

I've seen the = Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the seats, but his = seats were earlier than mine and had the straps.  My seats from my = Mk 1A  have the rubber diaphragm.  Is there any info on line = about restoring Mk 1A seats?  I want to be sure I know what I'm = getting into before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or ripping = mine apart.

 

Stu

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[2603:8001:b403:34c2:9d2:aa8:80b2:ca6]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w18sm8102063pjh.19.2021.04.02.08.35.06 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 02 Apr 2021 08:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 08:35:05 -0700 To: Ron Fraser References: <000701d727d0$8c48c8a0$a4da59e0$@bluefrog.com> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild - Why always SS From: Jay via Tigers Cc: Tigers Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6200914417423954320== boundary="Apple-Mail=_9D478AE4-69E8-4BA8-9B0A-7E8EFD0EDB10" --Apple-Mail=_9D478AE4-69E8-4BA8-9B0A-7E8EFD0EDB10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 Ron makes a good point about buying from SS. When I first got my Alpine = in 1978, I was in high school and on a tighter budget. So cost = mattered. SS was usually more expensive, and I would get parts from = other vendors - ignoring the little story in the back of the SS catalog = showing why their stuff was different. SS really went the extra step to = get things done right, and so much of what the other places had was = garbage. I ended up basically throwing out carpet, full rubber kit, and = tonneau from other suppliers. VB even had the wrong servos for the car. = I won=E2=80=99t buy from anyone else but SS now. Of course Rick is now = a good friend. There was also Curt or Kurt of Classic Sunbeams (I think that was the = name), on the east coast. I believe he and Rick worked together in = designing and getting many of the parts made. So I would have equally = gone to Curt if not for my later friendship with Rick. I don=E2=80=99t = know if Curt is still out there. And now VB no longer exists either. Just as well. I don=E2=80=99t know = where their inventory went. But I=E2=80=99d still be careful of buying = any of it. Best, Jay On Apr 2, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers = wrote: Stu=20 1st you need to determine which style seat you have and = compare to the illustrations in the SS catalog . Joe Parlanti=E2=80=99s = article is excellent for that style seat cover and similar covers but = there is also a seat cover with a separate center section. Once you = know which style, you can make an order. =20 No matter which style seat you have =E2=80=93 always take pictures and = take really good notes as you disassemble the seats. Disassembly is the easy part =E2=80=93 its understanding the assembly = process that takes time and thought to organize. Some parts may be SIDED so carefully note and mark them. =20 Check the condition of all the hardware and fasteners =E2=80=93 SS has = most of them available. I had to also buy a couple of taps and dies, 1/4=E2=80=9D x 26 BSF and = 5/16=E2=80=9D x 22 BSF, to clear up some threads. =20 I had bad luck a long time ago with the rubber diaphragms; they ripped = and fell apart too quickly. I=E2=80=99m not sure where I got those = diaphragms but the ones I got from SS are doing nicely. =20 I believe the way to install the rubber diaphragms is to attach diagonal = corners 1st then attach the rest of the clips. The corners should be = fairly easy but the rest of them may become more difficult and require = more effort as you proceed. It has been way too long since I did any = of this work so work carefully. =20 Hope this helps =20 Ron Fraser =20 From: Tigers On Behalf Of Stu via Tigers Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 7:52 PM To: Tiger Net Subject: [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild =20 I've seen the Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the = seats, but his seats were earlier than mine and had the straps. My = seats from my Mk 1A have the rubber diaphragm. Is there any info on = line about restoring Mk 1A seats? I want to be sure I know what I'm = getting into before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or ripping = mine apart. =20 Stu _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers = http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com --Apple-Mail=_9D478AE4-69E8-4BA8-9B0A-7E8EFD0EDB10 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 Ron = makes a good point about buying from SS.  When I first got my = Alpine in 1978, I was in high school and on a tighter budget.  So = cost mattered.  SS was usually more expensive, and I would get = parts from other vendors - ignoring the little story in the back of the = SS catalog showing why their stuff was different.  SS really went = the extra step to get things done right, and so much of what the other = places had was garbage.  I ended up basically throwing out carpet, = full rubber kit, and tonneau from other suppliers.  VB even had the = wrong servos for the car.  I won=E2=80=99t buy from anyone else but = SS now.  Of course Rick is now a good friend.

There was also Curt or Kurt of Classic = Sunbeams (I think that was the name), on the east coast.  I believe = he and Rick worked together in designing and getting many of the parts = made.  So I would have equally gone to Curt if not for my later = friendship with Rick.  I don=E2=80=99t know if Curt is still out = there.

And now = VB no longer exists either.  Just as well.  I don=E2=80=99t = know where their inventory went.  But I=E2=80=99d still be careful = of buying any of it.

Best,
Jay

On Apr 2, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Ron Fraser via = Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

Stu 
          &nb= sp;     1st you need to determine which = style seat you have and compare to the illustrations in the SS catalog = .   Joe Parlanti=E2=80=99s article is excellent for that style = seat cover and similar covers but there is also a seat cover with a = separate center section.   Once you know which style, you can = make an order.
 
No matter which style seat you have =E2=80=93 always take = pictures and take really good notes as you disassemble the seats.
Disassembly= is the easy part =E2=80=93 its understanding the assembly process that = takes time and thought to organize.
Some parts may be SIDED so carefully = note and mark them.
 
Check the condition of all the hardware and fasteners =E2=80=93= SS has most of them available.
I had to also buy a couple of taps and = dies, 1/4=E2=80=9D x 26 BSF and 5/16=E2=80=9D x 22 BSF, to clear up some = threads.
 
I had bad luck a long time ago with the rubber diaphragms; = they ripped and fell apart too quickly.   I=E2=80=99m not sure = where I got those diaphragms but the ones I got from SS are doing = nicely.
 
I believe the way to install the rubber diaphragms is to = attach diagonal corners 1st then attach the rest of the = clips.   The corners should be fairly easy but the rest of = them may become more difficult and require more effort as you = proceed.   It has been way too long since I did any of this = work so work carefully.
 
Hope this helps
 
Ron Fraser
 
From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf = Of Stu via = Tigers
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 = 7:52 PM
To: Tiger Net <Tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat = Rebuild
 
I've seen the Parlanti article on Tigers United, about = rebuilding the seats, but his seats were earlier than mine and had the = straps.  My seats from my Mk 1A  have the rubber = diaphragm.  Is there any info on line about restoring Mk 1A = seats?  I want to be sure I know what I'm getting into before = pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or ripping mine apart.
 
Stu
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Then I tried some new hooks and they worked fine. The newer hooks were longer than the old ones, so I guess the newer diaphragm is a little smaller than the original. Or maybe I have all of that backwards. Regards, Joe On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 9:58 AM Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote: > Stu > > 1st you need to determine which style seat you have and > compare to the illustrations in the SS catalog . Joe Parlanti=E2=80=99s= article > is excellent for that style seat cover and similar covers but there is al= so > a seat cover with a separate center section. Once you know which style, > you can make an order. > > > > No matter which style seat you have =E2=80=93 always take pictures and ta= ke really > good notes as you disassemble the seats. > > Disassembly is the easy part =E2=80=93 its understanding the assembly pro= cess that > takes time and thought to organize. > > Some parts may be SIDED so carefully note and mark them. > > > > Check the condition of all the hardware and fasteners =E2=80=93 SS has mo= st of > them available. > > I had to also buy a couple of taps and dies, 1/4=E2=80=9D x 26 BSF and 5/= 16=E2=80=9D x 22 > BSF, to clear up some threads. > > > > I had bad luck a long time ago with the rubber diaphragms; they ripped an= d > fell apart too quickly. I=E2=80=99m not sure where I got those diaphrag= ms but the > ones I got from SS are doing nicely. > > > > I believe the way to install the rubber diaphragms is to attach diagonal > corners 1st then attach the rest of the clips. The corners should be > fairly easy but the rest of them may become more difficult and require mo= re > effort as you proceed. It has been way too long since I did any of this > work so work carefully. > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Ron Fraser > > > > *From:* Tigers *On Behalf Of *Stu via > Tigers > *Sent:* Thursday, April 01, 2021 7:52 PM > *To:* Tiger Net > *Subject:* [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild > > > > I've seen the Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the > seats, but his seats were earlier than mine and had the straps. My seats > from my Mk 1A have the rubber diaphragm. Is there any info on line abou= t > restoring Mk 1A seats? I want to be sure I know what I'm getting into > before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or ripping mine apart. > > > > Stu > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jbbrown1980@gmail.com > > > --0000000000003a2dc805beff982f Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When I rebuilt my seats I think I was trying to use the or= iginal hooks on the new diaphragms and I couldn't stretch=C2=A0the rubb= er enough to get all of the hooks in.=C2=A0 Then I tried some new hooks and= they worked fine.=C2=A0 The newer hooks were longer than the old ones, so = I guess the newer diaphragm is a little smaller than the original.=C2=A0 Or= maybe I have all of that backwards.

Regards,
= Joe

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 9:58 AM Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
<= /div>
=

Stu

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1st you need to determine which style seat you have and compare to the illu= strations in the SS catalog .=C2=A0=C2=A0 Joe Parlanti=E2=80=99s article is= excellent for that style seat cover and similar covers but there is also a= seat cover with a separate center section.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Once you know which= style, you can make an order.

<= /u>=C2=A0

No matter which style seat you h= ave =E2=80=93 always take pictures and take really good notes as you disass= emble the seats.

Disassembly is the= easy part =E2=80=93 its understanding the assembly process that takes time= and thought to organize.

Some part= s may be SIDED so carefully note and mark them.

=C2=A0

Check the con= dition of all the hardware and fasteners =E2=80=93 SS has most of them avai= lable.

I had to also buy a couple o= f taps and dies, 1/4=E2=80=9D x 26 BSF and 5/16=E2=80=9D x 22 BSF, to clear= up some threads.

=C2=A0<= /u>

I had bad luck a long time ago with the rubbe= r diaphragms; they ripped and fell apart too quickly.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I=E2=80= =99m not sure where I got those diaphragms but the ones I got from SS are d= oing nicely.

=C2=A0

I believe the way to install the rubber diaphragms= is to attach diagonal corners 1st then attach the rest of the c= lips.=C2=A0=C2=A0 The corners should be fairly easy but the rest of them ma= y become more difficult and require more effort as you proceed.=C2=A0=C2=A0= It has been way too long since I did any of this work so work carefully.

=C2=A0

Hope this helps

= =C2=A0

Ron Fraser

=C2=A0

From:= Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Stu via Tiger= s
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 7:52 PM
To: Tiger Net = <Tigers@autox= .team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild<= /u>

=C2=A0

I've seen the Parlanti artic= le on Tigers United, about rebuilding the seats, but his seats were earlier= than mine and had the straps.=C2=A0 My seats from my Mk 1A=C2=A0 have the = rubber diaphragm.=C2=A0 Is there any info on line about restoring Mk 1A sea= ts?=C2=A0 I want to be sure I know what I'm getting into before pulling= the trigger on an order to SS, or ripping mine apart.=

=C2=A0

Stu

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The diaphragms are not difficult to install, use visegrips to pull the hooks into place. The hardest part can sometimes be getting the screws to come out of the bases, once you get them, the rest is pretty much self explanatory. Use plenty of contact cement in the recess and i put a 9 inch wide car battery on it over night while the glue dries. put a piece of cardboard under said battery so the pattern on the battery doesn't transfer to the seat. On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 11:37 AM Jay via Tigers wrote: > Ron makes a good point about buying from SS. When I first got my Alpine > in 1978, I was in high school and on a tighter budget. So cost mattered. > SS was usually more expensive, and I would get parts from other vendors - > ignoring the little story in the back of the SS catalog showing why their > stuff was different. SS really went the extra step to get things done > right, and so much of what the other places had was garbage. I ended up > basically throwing out carpet, full rubber kit, and tonneau from other > suppliers. VB even had the wrong servos for the car. I won=E2=80=99t bu= y from > anyone else but SS now. Of course Rick is now a good friend. > > There was also Curt or Kurt of Classic Sunbeams (I think that was the > name), on the east coast. I believe he and Rick worked together in > designing and getting many of the parts made. So I would have equally go= ne > to Curt if not for my later friendship with Rick. I don=E2=80=99t know i= f Curt is > still out there. > > And now VB no longer exists either. Just as well. I don=E2=80=99t know = where > their inventory went. But I=E2=80=99d still be careful of buying any of = it. > > Best, > Jay > > On Apr 2, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers > wrote: > > Stu > 1st you need to determine which style seat you have and > compare to the illustrations in the SS catalog . Joe Parlanti=E2=80=99s= article > is excellent for that style seat cover and similar covers but there is al= so > a seat cover with a separate center section. Once you know which style, > you can make an order. > > No matter which style seat you have =E2=80=93 always take pictures and ta= ke really > good notes as you disassemble the seats. > Disassembly is the easy part =E2=80=93 its understanding the assembly pro= cess that > takes time and thought to organize. > Some parts may be SIDED so carefully note and mark them. > > Check the condition of all the hardware and fasteners =E2=80=93 SS has mo= st of > them available. > I had to also buy a couple of taps and dies, 1/4=E2=80=9D x 26 BSF and 5/= 16=E2=80=9D x 22 > BSF, to clear up some threads. > > I had bad luck a long time ago with the rubber diaphragms; they ripped an= d > fell apart too quickly. I=E2=80=99m not sure where I got those diaphrag= ms but the > ones I got from SS are doing nicely. > > I believe the way to install the rubber diaphragms is to attach diagonal > corners 1st then attach the rest of the clips. The corners should be > fairly easy but the rest of them may become more difficult and require mo= re > effort as you proceed. It has been way too long since I did any of this > work so work carefully. > > Hope this helps > > Ron Fraser > > *From:* Tigers *On Behalf Of *Stu via > Tigers > *Sent:* Thursday, April 01, 2021 7:52 PM > *To:* Tiger Net > *Subject:* [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild > > I've seen the Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the > seats, but his seats were earlier than mine and had the straps. My seats > from my Mk 1A have the rubber diaphragm. Is there any info on line abou= t > restoring Mk 1A seats? I want to be sure I know what I'm getting into > before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or ripping mine apart. > > Stu > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jefferyrandall@gmail.com > > > --000000000000b7cfa205beffda61 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Do them one at a time, no parts mix up that way. The diaph= ragms are not difficult to install, use visegrips=C2=A0to pull the hooks in= to place. The hardest part can sometimes be getting the screws to come out = of the bases, once you get them, the rest is pretty much self explanatory. = Use plenty of contact cement in the recess and i put a 9 inch wide car batt= ery on it over night=C2=A0while the glue dries. put a piece of cardboard un= der said battery so the pattern on the battery doesn't transfer to the = seat.=C2=A0

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 11:37 AM Jay via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
<= blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l= eft-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);pa= dding-left:1ex">
Ron makes a good point about buying from SS.=C2=A0 When I first got m= y Alpine in 1978, I was in high school and on a tighter budget.=C2=A0 So co= st mattered.=C2=A0 SS was usually more expensive, and I would get parts fro= m other vendors - ignoring the little story in the back of the SS catalog s= howing why their stuff was different.=C2=A0 SS really went the extra step t= o get things done right, and so much of what the other places had was garba= ge.=C2=A0 I ended up basically throwing out carpet, full rubber kit, and to= nneau from other suppliers.=C2=A0 VB even had the wrong servos for the car.= =C2=A0 I won=E2=80=99t buy from anyone else but SS now.=C2=A0 Of course Ric= k is now a good friend.

There was also Curt or Kurt of C= lassic Sunbeams (I think that was the name), on the east coast.=C2=A0 I bel= ieve he and Rick worked together in designing and getting many of the parts= made.=C2=A0 So I would have equally gone to Curt if not for my later frien= dship with Rick.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t know if Curt is still out there.

And now VB no longer exists either.=C2=A0 Just as wel= l.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t know where their inventory went.=C2=A0 But I=E2=80= =99d still be careful of buying any of it.

Best,
Jay

On Apr 2, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Ron Fraser via Ti= gers <tigers@= autox.team.net> wrote:

= Stu=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1st=C2=A0you need to determine which style seat you have= and compare to the illustrations in the SS catalog .=C2=A0=C2=A0 Joe Parla= nti=E2=80=99s article is excellent for that style seat cover and similar co= vers but there is also a seat cover with a separate center section.=C2=A0= =C2=A0 Once you know which style, you can make an order.
=C2=A0
No matter which style seat y= ou have =E2=80=93 always take pictures and take really good notes as you di= sassemble the seats.
Disassembly is the easy p= art =E2=80=93 its understanding the assembly process that takes time and th= ought to organize.
Some parts may be SIDED so = carefully note and mark them.
=C2=A0=
Check the condition of all the hardware and fasteners = =E2=80=93 SS has most of them available.
I had= to also buy a couple of taps and dies, 1/4=E2=80=9D x 26 BSF and 5/16=E2= =80=9D x 22 BSF, to clear up some threads.
= =C2=A0
I had bad luck a long time ago with the ru= bber diaphragms; they ripped and fell apart too quickly.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I=E2= =80=99m not sure where I got those diaphragms but the ones I got from SS ar= e doing nicely.
=C2=A0
I believe the way to install the rubber diaphragms is to attach diago= nal corners 1st=C2=A0then attach the rest of the cl= ips.=C2=A0=C2=A0 The corners should be fairly easy but the rest of them may= become more difficult and require more effort as you proceed.=C2=A0=C2=A0 = It has been way too long since I did any of this work so work carefully.=
=C2=A0
Hope this he= lps
=C2=A0
Ron Fr= aser
=C2=A0
Fr= om:=C2=A0Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net>=C2= =A0On Behalf Of=C2=A0Stu via Tigers
Sent:<= /b>=C2=A0Thursday, April 01, 2021 7:52 PM
To:= =C2=A0Tiger Net <Tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject:=C2=A0[Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild
=C2=A0<= u>
I've see= n the Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the seats, but hi= s seats were earlier than mine and had the straps.=C2=A0 My seats from my M= k 1A=C2=A0 have the rubber diaphragm.=C2=A0 Is there any info on line about= restoring Mk 1A seats?=C2=A0 I want to be sure I know what I'm getting= into before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or ripping mine apart.<= u>
=C2=A0
Stu
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--000000000000b7cfa205beffda61-- --===============8100299238635031019== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net --===============8100299238635031019==-- From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 2 12:41:07 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE71FA1145 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2021 12:41:07 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@Autox.Team.Net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (unknown [216.200.145.38]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07521A0FD6 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2021 12:40:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta003.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.16.0.43/8.16.0.43) with SMTP id 132IcB3h013249; Fri, 2 Apr 2021 11:40:36 -0700 Received: by m0116791.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 48fb4658) id m0116791.6062203f.1bec5; Fri, 2 Apr 2021 11:20:09 -0700 From: "Ron Fraser" To: "'Jay'" References: <000701d727d0$8c48c8a0$a4da59e0$@bluefrog.com> <2EB6789E-D067-40F1-9F2A-E6E14B84C7C9@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 14:20:08 -0400 Thread-Index: AQFC38TvTJXl8TS76OceqgwBJQBWDAIRolc4AjSaIYGrp+aTUA== Content-Language: en-us definitions=2021-04-02_12:2021-04-01, 2021-04-02 signatures=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 suspectscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 impostorscore=0 adultscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2103310000 definitions=main-2104020128 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild - Why always SS Cc: 'Tigers' Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============8243438506862172055== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01D727CB.4BF28BB0" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01D727CB.4BF28BB0 charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jay As I understand it Moss bought VB. That might be a = good thing if Moss maintains a Sunbeam inventory and they upgrade = quality and description of those parts. I don=E2=80=99t know if Moss just bought the inventory of VB or the = building too. Since VB was part of LMC Trucks complex anything is = possible. =20 Ron Fraser =20 From: Jay =20 Sent: Friday, April 02, 2021 11:35 AM To: Ron Fraser Cc: Stu ; Tigers Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild - Why always SS =20 Ron makes a good point about buying from SS. When I first got my Alpine = in 1978, I was in high school and on a tighter budget. So cost = mattered. SS was usually more expensive, and I would get parts from = other vendors - ignoring the little story in the back of the SS catalog = showing why their stuff was different. SS really went the extra step to = get things done right, and so much of what the other places had was = garbage. I ended up basically throwing out carpet, full rubber kit, and = tonneau from other suppliers. VB even had the wrong servos for the car. = I won=E2=80=99t buy from anyone else but SS now. Of course Rick is now = a good friend. =20 There was also Curt or Kurt of Classic Sunbeams (I think that was the = name), on the east coast. I believe he and Rick worked together in = designing and getting many of the parts made. So I would have equally = gone to Curt if not for my later friendship with Rick. I don=E2=80=99t = know if Curt is still out there. =20 And now VB no longer exists either. Just as well. I don=E2=80=99t know = where their inventory went. But I=E2=80=99d still be careful of buying = any of it. =20 Best, Jay =20 On Apr 2, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers

Jay

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 As I understand it Moss bought = VB.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 That might be a good thing if Moss maintains a = Sunbeam inventory and they upgrade quality and description of those = parts.

I don=E2=80=99t know if Moss = just bought the inventory of VB or the building too.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Since = VB was part of LMC Trucks complex anything is possible.

 

Ron = Fraser

 

From: Jay = <jay.laifman@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2021 = 11:35 AM
To: Ron Fraser = <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
Cc: Stu = <sabre2tgr@gmail.com>; Tigers = <tigers@Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat = Rebuild - Why always SS

 

Ron makes a = good point about buying from SS.  When I first got my Alpine in = 1978, I was in high school and on a tighter budget.  So cost = mattered.  SS was usually more expensive, and I would get parts = from other vendors - ignoring the little story in the back of the SS = catalog showing why their stuff was different.  SS really went the = extra step to get things done right, and so much of what the other = places had was garbage.  I ended up basically throwing out carpet, = full rubber kit, and tonneau from other suppliers.  VB even had the = wrong servos for the car.  I won=E2=80=99t buy from anyone else but = SS now.  Of course Rick is now a good friend.

 

There was also Curt or Kurt of Classic Sunbeams (I = think that was the name), on the east coast.  I believe he and Rick = worked together in designing and getting many of the parts made. =  So I would have equally gone to Curt if not for my later = friendship with Rick.  I don=E2=80=99t know if Curt is still out = there.

 

And now VB no longer exists either.  Just as = well.  I don=E2=80=99t know where their inventory went.  But = I=E2=80=99d still be careful of buying any of = it.

 

Best,

Jay

 

On Apr = 2, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> = wrote:

 

Stu 

         &= nbsp;      1st you need to determine which = style seat you have and compare to the illustrations in the SS catalog = .   Joe Parlanti=E2=80=99s article is excellent for that style = seat cover and similar covers but there is also a seat cover with a = separate center section.   Once you know which style, you can = make an order.

 

No matter which style seat you have =E2=80=93 always = take pictures and take really good notes as you disassemble the = seats.

Disassembly is the = easy part =E2=80=93 its understanding the assembly process that takes = time and thought to organize.

Some parts may be SIDED so carefully note and mark = them.

 

Check the condition of all the hardware and fasteners = =E2=80=93 SS has most of them available.

I had to also buy a couple of taps and dies, = 1/4=E2=80=9D x 26 BSF and 5/16=E2=80=9D x 22 BSF, to clear up some = threads.

 

I = had bad luck a long time ago with the rubber diaphragms; they ripped and = fell apart too quickly.   I=E2=80=99m not sure where I got = those diaphragms but the ones I got from SS are doing = nicely.

 

I = believe the way to install the rubber diaphragms is to attach diagonal = corners 1st then attach the rest of the = clips.   The corners should be fairly easy but the rest of = them may become more difficult and require more effort as you = proceed.   It has been way too long since I did any of this = work so work carefully.

 

Hope this helps

 

Ron Fraser

 

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.n= et> On Behalf = Of Stu via = Tigers
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2021 7:52 = PM
To: Tiger = Net <Tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] = Mk 1A Seat Rebuild

 

I've seen the = Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the seats, but his = seats were earlier than mine and had the straps.  My seats from my = Mk 1A  have the rubber diaphragm.  Is there any info on line = about restoring Mk 1A seats?  I want to be sure I know what I'm = getting into before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or ripping = mine apart.

 

<= div>

Stu

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------=_NextPart_000_001A_01D727CB.4BF28BB0-- --===============8243438506862172055== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net --===============8243438506862172055==-- From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 2 16:39:15 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91106A0B94 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2021 16:39:15 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pf1-f180.google.com (unknown [209.85.210.180]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65915A071A for ; Fri, 2 Apr 2021 16:34:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pf1-f180.google.com with SMTP id q5so4360328pfh.10 for ; Fri, 02 Apr 2021 15:34:35 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=g6nyQofr85JIsSnCWcEGyRQTBumMmXQsaa+LA13Efzo=; b=rsqQKY14ZP7V0QW51SOHqiOCUhe4VybAMIQQNX6CkYKfkqqjNGZCyKyd9yNyze1SjJ pFt24rtt5LBxL8H7hXN63sOtgQAywmh2w2hvsaAxl6b2WKzQqeWc42PMcxlx/SLJeoPu E2jrnfmbtYP98/clVrqc/XMDVCEgYxaxhX5Z/66zGCwNbsDvYBiSpeZiZxjmjFB7QmsA 1b+W5x1Os8050n2gM/ogLuJaCkQ6oSCbTOPri+3F5wPmuLUuCfniGWPnEm6tUb0krhh/ FJozaFncMSTAbdMYRSWptcPjoUsgCyOIsVYwdBPafaB4UjM38RNAzASDkV47cO7SHYG9 u17w== d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=g6nyQofr85JIsSnCWcEGyRQTBumMmXQsaa+LA13Efzo=; b=cUVlxt8FbeKYGPaM1kUJ3YBLqvb+6xbWv7M8JW3TGn+JWAAvG9UiVCnWgvxq7wyVB1 qwGr6WM/xEiPlYBntLpc5ksusJe2MPsVa/3IrgB1pOM0etcZ3stA7uKzk7AWzSjMSaOL gLcOzisVqDXXDeHKdwvPLFsFcriB9eA7QlFxS8qpZ/MBtElmYmi6TnJrRP0uPlFkZu8B NCsUW8btRLq453xv+zExLSCmgFDzIt+QidtzM43RijuLvGo9nEluAkaak7hnvvuLQ6Dy /R2f5/CTJdlptaeem1rs6xXq/jNCsREfAgVJGLYoF6FTgz29LDExiCuAciXcjLmfLqqx Uvpw== t2kgXeIDNL5BMRtXA1A7vUgwUKVrSyHfOLCNDwc= q83-20020a6275560000b02901ff5bf872b3mr13880709pfc.33.1617402874544; Fri, 02 Apr 2021 15:34:34 -0700 (PDT) References: <000701d727d0$8c48c8a0$a4da59e0$@bluefrog.com> <2EB6789E-D067-40F1-9F2A-E6E14B84C7C9@gmail.com> <001901d727ec$d2ff97d0$78fec770$@bluefrog.com> Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2021 18:34:08 -0400 To: Ron Fraser Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild - Why always SS From: Stu via Tigers Cc: Tigers Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============3009782188096452323== --000000000000cbc5cb05bf04f366 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It looks like they are not carrying Sunbeam stuff any more, nothing for us in their catalog now. Stu On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 6:29 PM Ron Fraser wrote: > Jay > > As I understand it Moss bought VB. That might be a goo= d > thing if Moss maintains a Sunbeam inventory and they upgrade quality and > description of those parts. > > I don=E2=80=99t know if Moss just bought the inventory of VB or the build= ing > too. Since VB was part of LMC Trucks complex anything is possible. > > > > Ron Fraser > > > > *From:* Jay > *Sent:* Friday, April 02, 2021 11:35 AM > *To:* Ron Fraser > *Cc:* Stu ; Tigers > *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild - Why always SS > > > > Ron makes a good point about buying from SS. When I first got my Alpine > in 1978, I was in high school and on a tighter budget. So cost mattered. > SS was usually more expensive, and I would get parts from other vendors - > ignoring the little story in the back of the SS catalog showing why their > stuff was different. SS really went the extra step to get things done > right, and so much of what the other places had was garbage. I ended up > basically throwing out carpet, full rubber kit, and tonneau from other > suppliers. VB even had the wrong servos for the car. I won=E2=80=99t bu= y from > anyone else but SS now. Of course Rick is now a good friend. > > > > There was also Curt or Kurt of Classic Sunbeams (I think that was the > name), on the east coast. I believe he and Rick worked together in > designing and getting many of the parts made. So I would have equally go= ne > to Curt if not for my later friendship with Rick. I don=E2=80=99t know i= f Curt is > still out there. > > > > And now VB no longer exists either. Just as well. I don=E2=80=99t know = where > their inventory went. But I=E2=80=99d still be careful of buying any of = it. > > > > Best, > > Jay > > > > On Apr 2, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers > wrote: > > > > Stu > > 1st you need to determine which style seat you have and > compare to the illustrations in the SS catalog . Joe Parlanti=E2=80=99s= article > is excellent for that style seat cover and similar covers but there is al= so > a seat cover with a separate center section. Once you know which style, > you can make an order. > > > > No matter which style seat you have =E2=80=93 always take pictures and ta= ke really > good notes as you disassemble the seats. > > Disassembly is the easy part =E2=80=93 its understanding the assembly pro= cess that > takes time and thought to organize. > > Some parts may be SIDED so carefully note and mark them. > > > > Check the condition of all the hardware and fasteners =E2=80=93 SS has mo= st of > them available. > > I had to also buy a couple of taps and dies, 1/4=E2=80=9D x 26 BSF and 5/= 16=E2=80=9D x 22 > BSF, to clear up some threads. > > > > I had bad luck a long time ago with the rubber diaphragms; they ripped an= d > fell apart too quickly. I=E2=80=99m not sure where I got those diaphrag= ms but the > ones I got from SS are doing nicely. > > > > I believe the way to install the rubber diaphragms is to attach diagonal > corners 1st then attach the rest of the clips. The corners should be > fairly easy but the rest of them may become more difficult and require mo= re > effort as you proceed. It has been way too long since I did any of this > work so work carefully. > > > > Hope this helps > > > > Ron Fraser > > > > *From:* Tigers *On Behalf Of *Stu via > Tigers > *Sent:* Thursday, April 01, 2021 7:52 PM > *To:* Tiger Net > *Subject:* [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild > > > > I've seen the Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the > seats, but his seats were earlier than mine and had the straps. My seats > from my Mk 1A have the rubber diaphragm. Is there any info on line abou= t > restoring Mk 1A seats? I want to be sure I know what I'm getting into > before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or ripping mine apart. > > > > Stu > > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com > > > --000000000000cbc5cb05bf04f366 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
It = looks like they are not carrying=C2=A0Sunbeam stuff any=C2=A0 more, nothing= for us in their catalog now.

Stu

On Fri, Apr 2, 2021 at 6:29 PM Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:

Jay

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 As I understand it M= oss bought VB.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 That might be a good thing if Moss maintai= ns a Sunbeam inventory and they upgrade quality and description of those pa= rts.

I don=E2=80=99t know if Moss j= ust bought the inventory of VB or the building too.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Since VB wa= s part of LMC Trucks complex anything is possible.

=C2=A0

Ron Fraser

=C2=A0

From= : Jay <ja= y.laifman@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, April 02, 2021 11:35 A= M
To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
Cc: Stu <sabre2tgr@gmail.com>;= Tigers <tige= rs@Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuil= d - Why always SS

=C2=A0

Ron makes a good point about buyi= ng from SS.=C2=A0 When I first got my Alpine in 1978, I was in high school = and on a tighter budget.=C2=A0 So cost mattered.=C2=A0 SS was usually more = expensive, and I would get parts from other vendors - ignoring the little s= tory in the back of the SS catalog showing why their stuff was different.= =C2=A0 SS really went the extra step to get things done right, and so much = of what the other places had was garbage.=C2=A0 I ended up basically throwi= ng out carpet, full rubber kit, and tonneau from other suppliers.=C2=A0 VB = even had the wrong servos for the car.=C2=A0 I won=E2=80=99t buy from anyon= e else but SS now.=C2=A0 Of course Rick is now a good friend.=

=C2=A0

There was also Curt or Kurt of Classic Sunbeams (I think tha= t was the name), on the east coast.=C2=A0 I believe he and Rick worked toge= ther in designing and getting many of the parts made.=C2=A0 So I would have= equally gone to Curt if not for my later friendship with Rick.=C2=A0 I don= =E2=80=99t know if Curt is still out there.

=C2=A0

And now VB no longer exists either.=C2=A0 Just as well.=C2=A0 I don=E2= =80=99t know where their inventory went.=C2=A0 But I=E2=80=99d still be car= eful of buying any of it.

=C2=A0

Best,=

Jay

=C2=A0

On Apr = 2, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:<= u>

=C2=A0

Stu=C2=A0

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1st=C2=A0you need to determine which style se= at you have and compare to the illustrations in the SS catalog .=C2=A0=C2= =A0 Joe Parlanti=E2=80=99s article is excellent for that style seat cover a= nd similar covers but there is also a seat cover with a separate center sec= tion.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Once you know which style, you can make an order.<= u>

=C2=A0

<= div>

No matter which style seat you have =E2=80=93 al= ways take pictures and take really good notes as you disassemble the seats.=

Disassembly is the easy= part =E2=80=93 its understanding the assembly process that takes time and = thought to organize.

Som= e parts may be SIDED so carefully note and mark them.

=C2=A0

Check the condition of all the hardware and fasteners =E2=80= =93 SS has most of them available.

I had to also buy a couple of taps and dies, 1/4=E2=80=9D x 26 B= SF and 5/16=E2=80=9D x 22 BSF, to clear up some threads.

<= /div>

=C2=A0

I had bad luck a long time ago with the rubber diaphragms; = they ripped and fell apart too quickly.=C2=A0=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99m not sure wh= ere I got those diaphragms but the ones I got from SS are doing nicely.<= /u>

=C2=A0

I believe the way to install the rubber diap= hragms is to attach diagonal corners 1st=C2=A0then attach the rest = of the clips.=C2=A0=C2=A0 The corners should be fairly easy but the rest of= them may become more difficult and require more effort as you proceed.=C2= =A0=C2=A0 It has been way too long since I did any of this work so work car= efully.

=C2=A0=

Hope this helps

=

=C2=A0

Ron Fraser

=C2=A0

From:<= span class=3D"gmail-m_1300674458242781607apple-converted-space">=C2=A0Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net>=C2=A0On Behalf Of=C2=A0Stu via = Tigers
Sent:=C2=A0Thursday, April 01, 2021 7:52 PM
To:=C2=A0T= iger Net <Tig= ers@autox.team.net>
Subject:=C2=A0[Tigers] Mk 1A Seat Rebuild=

=C2=A0

I've seen the Parlanti article on Tigers United, about rebuilding the = seats, but his seats were earlier than mine and had the straps.=C2=A0 My se= ats from my Mk 1A=C2=A0 have the rubber diaphragm.=C2=A0 Is there any info = on line about restoring Mk 1A seats?=C2=A0 I want to be sure I know what I&= #39;m getting into before pulling the trigger on an order to SS, or ripping= mine apart.

=C2=A0

=

Stu

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Wow, I got lots of good info, thanks guys.=C2=A0 More questio= ns, of course.=C2=A0 There's mention of clips that connect the diaphrag= m to the frame.=C2=A0 Are those the clips SS lists as=C2=A0CLIP, UPHOLSTERY= TO SEAT FRAME, IP85?=C2=A0 Or are they something else?=C2=A0 How many will= I need per seat?=C2=A0 =C2=A0I'll have a seat out of the car tomorrow = for other reasons, so I'll see what I can see without taking anything a= part.

Stu
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On Apr 2, = 2021, at 3:43 PM, Stu via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

Wow, I got lots of good info, thanks = guys.  More questions, of course.  There's mention of clips = that connect the diaphragm to the frame.  Are those the clips SS = lists as CLIP, UPHOLSTERY TO SEAT FRAME, IP85?  Or are they = something else?  How many will I need per seat?   I'll = have a seat out of the car tomorrow for other reasons, so I'll see what = I can see without taking anything apart.

Stu
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= --Apple-Mail=_4A1EDC9C-E21C-4FBD-80E8-5DBC4B055220-- --===============1144437744861536746== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net --===============1144437744861536746==-- From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 3 08:03:21 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D869A0FAD for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2021 08:03:21 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net (unknown [69.252.207.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A484A0C72 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2021 07:59:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from resomta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.98]) by resqmta-ch2-08v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id SflelssH55RiASgnrli0Vi; Sat, 03 Apr 2021 13:59:07 +0000 s=20190202a; t=1617458347; bh=uey+THR5hAFFJB+zfvOcR/XKGet2fAzitzRgLLSDTHg=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:To:Message-ID:Subject:MIME-Version: Content-Type; b=QIqupUTKYuR0WKPr4nq+bHjOf4CMNBrz4vfSeotkr5391hu2X0UeCMF3bkbhVk5Ry DxY4EO6zRMFbJO6KmUedjY4V5wrXR6rw2S3i8c3QWRI9vJA0zfDWijddQJ7VsuwSih uTrpYFY63w8PHHRmCmIV+m/R/5z8CgQVSp6wl3RlwmsnWWNK2ZFTSGQ4MRKpXP7ov8 ZbJuezEsWvfkcSUiaiAuEGdgX+K++fd0426ZyRCJXASPFXI3JVkUE7dX/LVDiTGpcH zG4PBzbzd5tXYLYF3Rs3N17GQVjgDD8zQ+2bcjSNkJGHRnFVuiyDGCIGIxNPrxcix1 5GGPBFNf8Sa9w== Received: from oxapp-asd-15o.email.comcast.net ([96.115.225.106]) by resomta-ch2-02v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTPS id SgnqlGOISoNaKSgnrl2YoP; Sat, 03 Apr 2021 13:59:07 +0000 Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2021 09:59:06 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dr. T. Y. McDowell" To: Tiger's List Importance: Normal Subject: [Tigers] One Wire Alternator Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============1001966320218719438== boundary="----=_Part_283636_563128113.1617458346893" ------=_Part_283636_563128113.1617458346893 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tigers, Some time ago there was a stream on the list regarding going from the generator to a one-wire alternator. I saved it at the time but cannot find it now. If anyone has that info, please send it to me. Thanks, Tym McDowell ------=_Part_283636_563128113.1617458346893 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Tigers,
 
Some time ago there was a stream on the list regarding going from the generator to a one-wire alternator.  I saved it at the time but cannot find it now.
 
If anyone has that info, please send it to me.
 
Thanks,
 
Tym McDowell
------=_Part_283636_563128113.1617458346893-- --===============1001966320218719438== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net --===============1001966320218719438==-- From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 3 08:29:37 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE0C7A0E98 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2021 08:29:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (unknown [216.200.145.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C354A0D43 for ; Sat, 3 Apr 2021 08:29:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta001.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.16.0.43/8.16.0.43) with SMTP id 133ERD2i004335; Sat, 3 Apr 2021 07:29:11 -0700 Received: by m0116791.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 48fb4603) id m0116791.6062203f.1f970; Sat, 3 Apr 2021 07:28:41 -0700 From: "Ron Fraser" To: "'Dr. T. Y. McDowell'" , "'Tiger's List'" References: <503275370.283637.1617458346903@connect.xfinity.com> Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2021 10:28:41 -0400 Thread-Index: AQIlM4mDb4n8X4R3cD4182XoeBUFXaoGweOg Content-Language: en-us definitions=2021-04-03_05:2021-04-01, 2021-04-03 signatures=0 adultscore=0 mlxlogscore=975 impostorscore=0 clxscore=1011 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 priorityscore=1501 lowpriorityscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2103310000 definitions=main-2104030100 Subject: Re: [Tigers] One Wire Alternator Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============6990447140049514215== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01D72874.210545B0" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01D72874.210545B0 boundary="----=_NextPart_001_000E_01D72874.210545B0" ------=_NextPart_001_000E_01D72874.210545B0 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Tym There are several ways to go for this conversion. =20 Powermaster has a generator looking alternator for Ford engines =20 >From Joel martin =20 You can also take a 1965 style Ford Alternator install a regulator onto = that alternator =E2=80=93 part from NPD catalog, make the original type = voltage regulator into a Junction box. =20 Ron Fraser =20 =20 From: Tigers On Behalf Of Dr. T. Y. = McDowell Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 9:59 AM To: Tiger's List Subject: [Tigers] One Wire Alternator =20 Tigers,=20 =20 Some time ago there was a stream on the list regarding going from the = generator to a one-wire alternator. I saved it at the time but cannot = find it now.=20 =20 If anyone has that info, please send it to me.=20 =20 Thanks,=20 =20 Tym McDowell=20 ------=_NextPart_001_000E_01D72874.210545B0 charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Tym

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 There are several ways to go for this = conversion.

 

Powermaster has a generator looking alternator for = Ford engines

 

From Joel martin

 

You can also = take a 1965 style Ford Alternator install a regulator onto that = alternator =E2=80=93 part from NPD catalog, make the original type = voltage regulator into a Junction box.

 

Ron = Fraser

 

 

From: Tigers = <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Dr. T. Y. = McDowell
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2021 9:59 AM
To: = Tiger's List <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: [Tigers] = One Wire Alternator

 

Tigers,

 

Some time ago there was a stream on the list regarding going from the = generator to a one-wire alternator.  I saved it at the time but = cannot find it now.

 

If anyone has that info, please send it to me. =

 

Thanks,

 

Tym McDowell

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mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F1BDA0E57 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2021 07:03:42 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (unknown [50.198.190.18]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 242E1A0BFA for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2021 07:01:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [50.198.190.18]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCCEA1C154C for ; Sun, 11 Apr 2021 07:01:26 -0600 (MDT) To: tigers@autox.team.net Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 07:01:26 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.8.1 Content-Language: en-US Subject: [Tigers] 30 years. 3 decades. From: Mark J Bradakis via Tigers Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6F536DC10B924F59D220EF0F Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On this day 30 years ago Team.Net came into being.  The British-cars mailing list was already going strong, an offshoot from rec.autos Usenet group.  Dale Cook, Jim Muller, then me. Team.net went from 2 lists at the beginning, autox and british-cars, and exploded into nearly 70 different lists with something like 15,000 individuals subscribed at its peak.  For a while it was pretty much the only game in town.  As I recall, when I attended the SCCA Solo II Nationals 25th Anniversary event, something like 2/3rds of the 1,000+ entrants were on the autox list. And it amazes me that with such a scatterbrained procrastinator like me behind the curtain it is still on the air. It is a lot quieter these days, much better software handle many of the janitorial tasks automatically.  Back in the beginning, I had to do *everything* by hand, so to speak. Subscribes, unsubscribes, errors, I was spending 10, 15, 20 hours a week maintaining the server.  The first server had a 100 MHz processor.  Things have changed.  Back then just having a fast network connection at a residence was rare and expensive.  Good old DSL.  I remember that time when my service provider went belly up, and team net was off the air for 11 days straight.  I don't miss those days at all. 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From: Derrick Schmidt via Tigers Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0748339151285180389== boundary="----=_Part_771578_1653115877.1618150856178" ------=_Part_771578_1653115877.1618150856178 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We sure do appreciate it! Derrick Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, April 11, 2021, 6:01 AM, Mark J Bradakis via Tigers wrote: On this day 30 years ago Team.Net came into being.=C2=A0 The British-cars= =20 mailing list was already going strong, an offshoot from rec.autos Usenet=20 group.=C2=A0 Dale Cook, Jim Muller, then me. Team.net went from 2 lists at= =20 the beginning, autox and british-cars, and exploded into nearly 70=20 different lists with something like 15,000 individuals subscribed at its=20 peak.=C2=A0 For a while it was pretty much the only game in town.=C2=A0 As = I=20 recall, when I attended the SCCA Solo II Nationals 25th Anniversary=20 event, something like 2/3rds of the 1,000+ entrants were on the autox list. And it amazes me that with such a scatterbrained procrastinator like me=20 behind the curtain it is still on the air. It is a lot quieter these=20 days, much better software handle many of the janitorial tasks=20 automatically.=C2=A0 Back in the beginning, I had to do *everything* by han= d,=20 so to speak. Subscribes, unsubscribes, errors, I was spending 10, 15, 20=20 hours a week maintaining the server.=C2=A0 The first server had a 100 MHz= =20 processor.=C2=A0 Things have changed.=C2=A0 Back then just having a fast ne= twork=20 connection at a residence was rare and expensive.=C2=A0 Good old DSL.=C2=A0= I=20 remember that time when my service provider went belly up, and team net=20 was off the air for 11 days straight.=C2=A0 I don't miss those days at all. Anyway, happy birthday to those of you still here.=C2=A0 I hope I can=20 continue to provide a useful service for years to come. mjb. _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/lovemygirls365@ya= hoo.com ------=_Part_771578_1653115877.1618150856178 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable We sure do appreciate it!

Derrick



= Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
=

On Sunday, April 11, 2021, 6:01 AM, Ma= rk J Bradakis via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

On this day 30 years ago Team.Net cam= e into being.  The British-cars
mailing lis= t was already going strong, an offshoot from rec.autos Usenet
group.  Dale Cook, Jim Muller, then me. Team.net went fr= om 2 lists at
the beginning, autox and british-c= ars, and exploded into nearly 70
different lists= with something like 15,000 individuals subscribed at its
peak.  For a while it was pretty much the only game in town.=   As I
recall, when I attended the SCCA Sol= o II Nationals 25th Anniversary
event, something= like 2/3rds of the 1,000+ entrants were on the autox list.

And it amazes me that with such a sca= tterbrained procrastinator like me
behind the cu= rtain it is still on the air. It is a lot quieter these
days, much better software handle many of the janitorial tasks
automatically.  Back in the beginning, I had t= o do *everything* by hand,
so to speak. Subscrib= es, unsubscribes, errors, I was spending 10, 15, 20
hours a week maintaining the server.  The first server had a 100 M= Hz
processor.  Things have changed.  B= ack then just having a fast network
connection a= t a residence was rare and expensive.  Good old DSL.  I
remember that time when my service provider went belly up= , and team net
was off the air for 11 days strai= ght.  I don't miss those days at all.

Anyway, happy birthday to those of you still here.&nbs= p; I hope I can
continue to provide a useful ser= vice for years to come.

mjb.



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From: Terry Packer via Tigers Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4858495417475069736== boundary="----=_Part_314277_478883116.1618156000436" ------=_Part_314277_478883116.1618156000436 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark The feeling of "Thank You" crosses our minds and enters our thoughts many m= ore times than the words reach you. For all you have done and continue to d= o, especially that which we don't know and can't see, THANK YOU. Terry **************************************************** On Sunday, April 11, 2021, 6:04:14 AM PDT, Mark J Bradakis via Tigers <= tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: =20 =20 On this day 30 years ago Team.Net came into being.=C2=A0 The British-cars= =20 mailing list was already going strong, an offshoot from rec.autos Usenet=20 group.=C2=A0 Dale Cook, Jim Muller, then me. Team.net went from 2 lists at= =20 the beginning, autox and british-cars, and exploded into nearly 70=20 different lists with something like 15,000 individuals subscribed at its=20 peak.=C2=A0 For a while it was pretty much the only game in town.=C2=A0 As = I=20 recall, when I attended the SCCA Solo II Nationals 25th Anniversary=20 event, something like 2/3rds of the 1,000+ entrants were on the autox list. And it amazes me that with such a scatterbrained procrastinator like me=20 behind the curtain it is still on the air. It is a lot quieter these=20 days, much better software handle many of the janitorial tasks=20 automatically.=C2=A0 Back in the beginning, I had to do *everything* by han= d,=20 so to speak. Subscribes, unsubscribes, errors, I was spending 10, 15, 20=20 hours a week maintaining the server.=C2=A0 The first server had a 100 MHz= =20 processor.=C2=A0 Things have changed.=C2=A0 Back then just having a fast ne= twork=20 connection at a residence was rare and expensive.=C2=A0 Good old DSL.=C2=A0= I=20 remember that time when my service provider went belly up, and team net=20 was off the air for 11 days straight.=C2=A0 I don't miss those days at all. Anyway, happy birthday to those of you still here.=C2=A0 I hope I can=20 continue to provide a useful service for years to come. mjb. =20 ------=_Part_314277_478883116.1618156000436 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Mark

The f= eeling of "Thank You" crosses our minds and enters our thoughts many more t= imes than the words reach you. For all you have done and continue to do, es= pecially that which we don't know and can't see, THANK YOU.

Terry

********************************************= ********

=20
=20
On Sunday, April 11, 2021, 6:04:14 AM PDT, Mark J Brada= kis via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:


On this day 30 years ago Team.Net cam= e into being.  The British-cars
mailing lis= t was already going strong, an offshoot from rec.autos Usenet
group.  Dale Cook, Jim Muller, then me. Team.net went fr= om 2 lists at
the beginning, autox and british-c= ars, and exploded into nearly 70
different lists= with something like 15,000 individuals subscribed at its
peak.  For a while it was pretty much the only game in town.=   As I
recall, when I attended the SCCA Sol= o II Nationals 25th Anniversary
event, something= like 2/3rds of the 1,000+ entrants were on the autox list.

And it amazes me that with such a sca= tterbrained procrastinator like me
behind the cu= rtain it is still on the air. It is a lot quieter these
days, much better software handle many of the janitorial tasks
automatically.  Back in the beginning, I had t= o do *everything* by hand,
so to speak. Subscrib= es, unsubscribes, errors, I was spending 10, 15, 20
hours a week maintaining the server.  The first server had a 100 M= Hz
processor.  Things have changed.  B= ack then just having a fast network
connection a= t a residence was rare and expensive.  Good old DSL.  I
remember that time when my service provider went belly up= , and team net
was off the air for 11 days strai= ght.  I don't miss those days at all.

Anyway, happy birthday to those of you still here.&nbs= p; I hope I can
continue to provide a useful ser= vice for years to come.

mjb.
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Mon, 12 Apr 2021 18:32:03 +0000 Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 18:32:00 +0000 (UTC) To: "tigers@autox.team.net" , Rick References: x64; rv:86.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/86.0 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Rick McLeod and Sunbeam Specialties From: Douglas Lyle via Tigers Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0586324066239033670== boundary="----=_Part_1228726_795874581.1618252320390" ------=_Part_1228726_795874581.1618252320390 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I just called 408-371-1642 and they answered..... On Monday, April 12, 2021, 11:28:34 AM PDT, Rick wrote: =20 =20 Hi I wondered if anyone could let me know if something is wrong. I=E2=80= =99ve tried to contact Rick McLeod and Sunbeam Specialties for a week now. = I=E2=80=99m not getting response by email and I=E2=80=99m getting a recordi= ng from Verizon that would indicate that the number is not working. I don= =E2=80=99t know if something has happened or if his area code is changed. P= lease let me know thank you rick hyatt Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/douglasalyle@yaho= o.com =20 ------=_Part_1228726_795874581.1618252320390 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I just called 408-371-1642 a= nd they answered.....

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On Monday, April 12, 2021, 11:28:34 AM PDT, Rick <ri= ck@atmospherebuilders.com> wrote:


Hi I wondered if anyone could let me = know if something is wrong. I=E2=80=99ve tried to contact Rick McLeod and S= unbeam Specialties for a week now. I=E2=80=99m not getting response by emai= l and I=E2=80=99m getting a recording from Verizon that would indicate that= the number is not working. I don=E2=80=99t know if something has happened = or if his area code is changed. Please let me know thank you rick hyatt
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Tue, 13 Apr 2021 07:23:21 +0000 Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2021 07:23:15 +0000 (UTC) To: "tigers@autox.team.net" References: <1988557789.1475603.1618298595874.ref@mail.yahoo.com> x64; rv:87.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/87.0 Subject: Re: [Tigers] 30 years. 3 decades From: J Clark via Tigers Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0295285141411890902== boundary="----=_Part_1475602_816205289.1618298595873" ------=_Part_1475602_816205289.1618298595873 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thank you, Mark, for your efforts over the years! 30! Wow! Jon Clark ------=_Part_1475602_816205289.1618298595873 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Thank you, Mark, for your efforts over the years! 30! Wow!
Jon Clark
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From: Tony Lang via Tigers Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0189383942869474191== boundary="----=_Part_923945_951090521.1618336597342" ------=_Part_923945_951090521.1618336597342 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =C2=A0Hoping that someone knows the name and phone number of the young man = in New Mexico (IMS) that restores Tiger steering wheels. I had his contact = information until my old phone locked up. A good reason to keep adding new = names/numbers to an old email and continue forwarding it to yourself or put= ting them in a folder or something. Getting old sure has it drawbacks.=C2= =A0 Tony Lang (TtT) ------=_Part_923945_951090521.1618336597342 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 Hoping that someone knows the name and phone number of the young man in New Mexico (IMS) that restores Tiger steering wheels. I had his contact information until my old phone locked up. A good reason to keep adding new names/numbers to an old email and continue forwarding it to yourself or putting them in a folder or something. Getting old sure has it drawbacks. 

Tony Lang (TtT)
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From: Randall Antosiak via Tigers Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4153106196901604442== boundary="----=_Part_1286282_61016120.1618358042559" ------=_Part_1286282_61016120.1618358042559 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I had my original steering wheel restored by Madera Concepts in Golita, ne= ar Santa Barbara.=C2=A0 Before restoration, my wheel was complete but had n= umerous significant cracks.=C2=A0 The finished product was perfect.=C2=A0 T= he work cost around $650 and took about 10 days.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Highly recomme= nded. Madera Concepts Inc. Automotive Wood Restoration=C2=A0Specialists - Since 1982 Exotic Wooden Dashboards and=C2=A0Interior Trim Components 55 - B =C2=A0Depot =C2=A0Rd. =C2=A0 Goleta, =C2=A0CA. =C2=A093117 805-962-1579 =C2=A07am to 3:30pm PT=C2=A0=C2=A0Mon - Thursday and till Noon= on=C2=A0Friday Visit our website:=C2=A0=C2=A0www.maderaconcepts.com On Tuesday, April 13, 2021, 11:00:51 AM PDT, Tony Lang via Tigers wrote: =20 =20 =C2=A0Hoping that someone knows the name and phone number of the young man= in New Mexico (IMS) that restores Tiger steering wheels. I had his contact= information until my old phone locked up. A good reason to keep adding new= names/numbers to an old email and continue forwarding it to yourself or pu= tting them in a folder or something. Getting old sure has it drawbacks.=C2= =A0 Tony Lang (TtT)_______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/randya@pacbell.ne= t =20 ------=_Part_1286282_61016120.1618358042559 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I had my original steering w= heel restored by Madera Concepts in Golita, near Santa Barbara.  Befor= e restoration, my wheel was complete but had numerous significant cracks.&n= bsp; The finished product was perfect.  The work cost around $650 and = took about 10 days.   Highly recommended.

= Madera Concepts Inc.
Automotive Wood Restoration Specialists - Since 1982Exotic Wooden Dashboard= s and Interior Trim Components
55 - B  Depot  Rd.  
Goleta,  CA.  93117

805-962-1579  7am to 3:30pm PT &= nbsp;Mon - Thursday and till Noon on Friday

Visit our website:  www.maderaconce= pts.com


=20
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On Tuesday, April 13, 2021, 11:00:51 AM PDT, Tony Lang = via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:


 Hoping that someone knows the name and phone number of the y= oung man in New Mexico (IMS) that restores Tiger steering wheels. I had his= contact information until my old phone locked up. A good reason to keep ad= ding new names/numbers to an old email and continue forwarding it to yourse= lf or putting them in a folder or something. Getting old sure has it drawba= cks. 

Tony Lang (TtT)
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------=_Part_1286282_61016120.1618358042559-- --===============4153106196901604442== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net --===============4153106196901604442==-- From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 14 12:39:23 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3622AA0EBC for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 12:39:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from sonic310-24.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (unknown [98.137.69.150]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED85A0AEC for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 12:39:01 -0600 (MDT) t=1618425541; bh=A+JiSpcTtOhXRBhpJPxU+cV1ldqnDQshlRNRsu8Lx3E=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=P0tIfI4h2J4jH7rYzUrbic9D8I4ap7hmjrY6/ldg+AxdCM3cXhsp1rTTGzYpd8ByZEXqO6O1QcXY4slAEQM0DCuX7zob/ktfmY9GGS8CGesgRg9dDMx93Qdw7l+HoqJ7Zn3a0PU6GN76sqBExf0uTkcGds47N2E39LlowfrBKbjYCeHQvI/TBftL5D0/Y4ao/niGeplrEcZdzbEalAzP8BKSVnos0dDjylnF47EUM6Lla8uAxiMQzPDYgEG/SjFLJrCyHRJvY5kpYKtI54h5xwUJjxGjrul5In6f6/WHVq8kODhYiD+dL7LVyU1eeYgc617vEnrAOxi8s8kTJ8XExA== t=1618425541; bh=fOKxv1Qv1aln4c3RxJAk+SOirRqwtFI2cCx4lpBQYyH=; h=X-Sonic-MF:Date:From:To:Subject:From:Subject; b=eMbQ3sTqKQntRAbjV3CbiPAcet81HESvy0ozLLShyl+KuBHTJZgGJVbkZtrwtPJDXjLXndqPICEE7No74FKzrBGaYf7ZGVbgCMic0JdHGx3igmBnd62FMY7l+rdunXYGF/Fryto8KX3W9YducmPQD4KzTdp0kHmmmMfZI1wIo7fQNMxzsLjp0Vcs1QE7oQC93miI7zH5gJUcf2WFpGuEPUJyRXtOCjugFblMHRXldMw+QMujDrgfaySvxNKJMG64Ww8ovoavhxijkXigDjsuE0t7FwGGbcplsGJKGeo2/CbCaLkCpcXiBedMAq/jrVU5QhEALn8yMsdQPrzaYm9o+w== pD4DoP.R3snq_If3xVBkusl5b9CiR0LJMexbquQ3U3fl5DC4y9h2_0T38JxSzImvkNM.NMMpLJ13 rkvUXOS567vQvO9UtXmp0o6x2ANgkVTSkFUG3YHGcHGhBhCoeQidnyteSoYH3RZ5mqFgbpOEqgXs zJQqzFWWA21zogDyme4Hj4UB9EZnUAWGZoqcEoUB2k3XxRdn_4j9didTjoKnemHmfSvvgxh3XlNw t9QaNhZ5VmeTmYFGyy4xgQU6sPlvj.Xz3.0Lfb8mNb1ohLBTjhT8MalGvOlFBf6AXPXQwSREh7v_ bRSNlDVN3.VQ_jl9BknO7uHrMizhK.eFYW0zvXEVB5VSs.2sBLmUABs7.eP_PVb8S9NbZ46Ngpzi iWiG3VSqTA5imd46uXRWTtTeAN0mu4IeXN8QXydJ1Vmbi9RaYH7Wq73xJdcsYtHJM2U9Gq3x2.w1 lVv0BNNSkScvaVGzlbyYCxbqzrG9vPQmueTaZ6IxtQYhC4dqqWN4FS1W935Nc8fl0o4.RQqofEqA qpKxZEFyDOYZRWztZUe7MwjmS2RkORNuLLd8K00ite92XowH7IVC7zRvKEUxEmcwuV_gevNr8zgd LMnQGsCgCnbk84cjTURks.jNMedfn9ZBGhMwzIt4bl3uhg2t1LNlbpRi6ozMKkwEnlNwXMYm9uwW 5oXpTcAULQBa3u_7l7.NjJMG2GaNe3sZnTU6HKvu5QI2.f.d4T_eDZOg8le5UQjJ8iR..8_fT2Hk rmoH7TyuLzjymh4pcd4IBZ3CY5STqT4Ag6IsuBc8K..K4Bbyj_HMxrmVPYZrGhu3b02dyPdF6dhF D5lV0U4k8.tbmm9aihbakJ8CEcbzqyAtzHlEg9svvbVXyn1yjGaQ_gQUGojb85v35PUREsD3vAH. 490bFgh7_CXrkCKtAS_C.RWhcwuKLkJASHn10qga7.TIiWsa1aMefqps41qf4ZpKdb_XXdHxW2tG spCwKSkHKPkDtCPpVVCwknOTjFKuATFpR4BnU4XxQB.PgFQ4p4sG_mDC7tsZFvxZYmhEmaAHhMmD tyCQ8bmVxqCqjEONBEemCUa3EXnqjgWqUsJvjTI3lKQfI1vqQ5C_b1L1.UzvEaxKf1cqKMf66OZf pf1x2.1Fze_WlKP7aZ1NP8q.Z8iXytMueF1TRf.ypchve9kn1DOMbgQYoYEdNBVYPI5q8yh4k4Tx itVGZZ0rztx4pU2xvrPSb9uwTt2sOU3n7sDQJOMvNNnZYHigq.rGma60QJXjkLe2wvncWzS9SGAO hNsTZl2TMNR852ciNhtbWzarhHFKS.UaemY8SGj1jgeg1wZphPe7feO.c83jGnPSHFa3jqyCYYt4 D6u2OkPeDsnyVQX_Q4wA7InGpyHu3kmXUKLoR.R_0aYyAfemcLWPj3LDGFxqXeCBdYq7nJQlKv29 5mhUfiWceD1v6n7bAmYyBPXcFV2i8VH30SgFDjx9nt6JXPpojs2HbbxPWUanHtK.0aUROCIrtBu5 wXtotMHDdC3o1BpvxgNzxjjPLOgKbC887NcIaby5iFb9Y9xowZZgAW1fQunz.hmqDeX70OB.0Ewe 09.qyYtukmjrQGpyI9M7cFyj805sDZcSanFNfGv.eKwAbC7lAYbT39YabgUi1WCaFAr06KQsCaHo fUQAPWYhp08Oh9RyzNE_7bzTYahw0aCZyZfpN6DMDtx4H9It01Fhg6eNrD0vaUS82dCMakn8po2W 9k2urrif2kN0FTQ4IBjQenbZ5wic4sfRMSpB_C5i7_tQCcLQas9uz_mCRLDpyV3X8HApskQKRaYf 1OJ2eGXxKy2VjYescIq_cyYxrhkd.r9gVnY7F9Ke5aUAb7hyaZcOV977iO27KrYbgU3E5LgBYYaF poqRXXtrzrvSwOe3rRi.rDiV_mjAWIpnv2nCrEcD67epNKvNXSbOSlli5.CnUzzHxrAP6A8Yzokb o70l5svIcvm0YjvBAKwBWGRtu.YHzfIIBw5_ZbT_REXFNfYAiYzBbazIc78L.mOU28KyCtiyFQf6 Y6GdVk.Y0u0jazvj83ciyoGOrMPOUIEeXx2Me6ATlrQcWaPEMHkYBirDSU8rPzMvLH.gdkaUW0aS 70f3qCGI.EnNABf5ZkUnq1ZUHhZ39zrLiBVf4WGGtWFDA9ghqS2CJVtdJLegs2SyMFvmqNwo.8YF NHbTqCtfrLw7tAhidMOZmXROcZu9W5ll9_bJqzgyDuqORpY_Q5rqz9tOF_BToELXd9LQ.iJj9F4q _ebfWyUiFCpRnEFlYjLD0Vc8WQ4n_g2m._V7xQsQ_gM6avmv7BqPSRVbw9aataUCW_l0lw7EsPBI 2xdv4A2hgLppHgyoV_PgUysKhsBUMJsvSVAe.WGDBVai0A1YGc2.gxp0QXb6gJCmtYHN07dXwiZF atSgpLXLWAU9a3gBHi8_h6mkK.AOLXEoa38AH_3KkT.I5qS8i05chSxvQYhpFtUHwFjzRbVuOD44 1Sqgi08w4XBRBqwTvSK6Iu8XQPROlvxoezTAG68RT3u0AFbBQtaYQd.o7JlmXem7MPBOEUkFlJpC C1Uy.WQmERl4- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic310.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 18:39:01 +0000 Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 18:38:56 +0000 (UTC) To: Tigers Den , Tony Lang References: <328093914.923946.1618336597343.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <328093914.923946.1618336597343@mail.yahoo.com> <158895048.1286283.1618358042561@mail.yahoo.com> x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/89.0.4389.90 Safari/537.36 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Original steering wheel refurbished?? From: Randall Antosiak via Tigers Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7798527550166827858== boundary="----=_Part_1495401_1159668115.1618425536992" ------=_Part_1495401_1159668115.1618425536992 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I should mention that Madera only refinishes the steering wheel wood.=C2= =A0 I also needed a replacement hub, and I purchased one from Eric Gibeaut = (sunbeams@scc.rr.com) for about $400.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Excellent quality on the = replacement hub.=C2=A0 I did have to paint the hub to match the surrounding= material but that was not a big deal. On Tuesday, April 13, 2021, 04:55:00 PM PDT, Randall Antosiak via Tiger= s wrote: =20 =20 I had my original steering wheel restored by Madera Concepts in Golita, n= ear Santa Barbara.=C2=A0 Before restoration, my wheel was complete but had = numerous significant cracks.=C2=A0 The finished product was perfect.=C2=A0 = The work cost around $650 and took about 10 days.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Highly recomm= ended. Madera Concepts Inc. Automotive Wood Restoration=C2=A0Specialists - Since 1982 Exotic Wooden Dashboards and=C2=A0Interior Trim Components 55 - B =C2=A0Depot =C2=A0Rd. =C2=A0 Goleta, =C2=A0CA. =C2=A093117 805-962-1579 =C2=A07am to 3:30pm PT=C2=A0=C2=A0Mon - Thursday and till Noon= on=C2=A0Friday Visit our website:=C2=A0=C2=A0www.maderaconcepts.com On Tuesday, April 13, 2021, 11:00:51 AM PDT, Tony Lang via Tigers wrote: =20 =20 =C2=A0Hoping that someone knows the name and phone number of the young man= in New Mexico (IMS) that restores Tiger steering wheels. I had his contact= information until my old phone locked up. A good reason to keep adding new= names/numbers to an old email and continue forwarding it to yourself or pu= tting them in a folder or something. Getting old sure has it drawbacks.=C2= =A0 Tony Lang (TtT)_______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/randya@pacbell.ne= t _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/randya@pacbell.ne= t =20 ------=_Part_1495401_1159668115.1618425536992 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I should mention that Madera= only refinishes the steering wheel wood.  I also needed a replacement= hub, and I purchased one from Eric Gibeaut (sunbeams@scc.rr.com) for about= $400.   Excellent quality on the replacement hub.  I did ha= ve to paint the hub to match the surrounding material but that was not a bi= g deal.

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On Tuesday, April 13, 2021, 04:55:00 PM PDT, Randall An= tosiak via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:


I had my original steering wheel restored by Mader= a Concepts in Golita, near Santa Barbara.  Before restoration, my whee= l was complete but had numerous significant cracks.  The finished prod= uct was perfect.  The work cost around $650 and took about 10 days.&nb= sp;  Highly recommended.

Madera Concepts Inc.
Automotive Wood Restoration&nbs= p;Specialists - Since 1982
Exotic Wooden Dashboards and Interior Trim C= omponents
55 - B  Depot  Rd.  
Goleta,  CA.  93117
=
805-962= -1579  7am to 3:30pm PT  Mon - Thursday and till Noon on&nbs= p;Friday

Visit our website:  www.m= aderaconcepts.com


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On Tuesday, April 13, 2021, 11:00:51 AM PDT, Tony Lang = via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:


 Hoping that some= one knows the name and phone number of the young man in New Mexico (IMS) th= at restores Tiger steering wheels. I had his contact information until my o= ld phone locked up. A good reason to keep adding new names/numbers to an ol= d email and continue forwarding it to yourself or putting them in a folder = or something. Getting old sure has it drawbacks. 

Tony Lang (TtT)
_______________________________________________

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------=_Part_1495401_1159668115.1618425536992-- --===============7798527550166827858== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net --===============7798527550166827858==-- From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 15 11:27:17 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC58A0D85 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 11:27:17 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ot1-f42.google.com (unknown [209.85.210.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E265A0BD3 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 11:19:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ot1-f42.google.com with SMTP id i16-20020a9d68d00000b0290286edfdfe9eso12633363oto.3 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 10:19:51 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=/7KBerSzYCAPCbTtqM7KcDkIxKTMRN2r7Yu6SamvXrg=; b=GYbGno75+2y5v66n2QrdgZxhB70Sh6lu0mtHw2Rc2ZhkwHZ/dDy/fhdPUK7FUjEuNo 9CkzMktpWJ+rpldx4oIuO800x8U21tTov2bjupnPZVa0WNrgEPJVdG9E2+z1kQqApaJo XNSBRksc6sLS7hVi7lG9w6CE/BtS/W5P3iEZsKot+JS2ePQ7nV+5aFmq0SxmWtzK3Esx obLj8qYGP0/SfsGP1x4MLcNY6b21XK0gzyrkBv9VoxAF9hsQ5x1G5v7X5alT5/SaR8id bttl5SyEFIExrp8UOKVHEPWtQtP1uGI6VnBhACfqzP+dp7S9kOPDnOTJUAIxGnmIgQw3 H6fA== d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=/7KBerSzYCAPCbTtqM7KcDkIxKTMRN2r7Yu6SamvXrg=; b=bm3skaG2LpEMHS4FjyqaJpw5fh6D3GtVpCfGrIwsr5l3r9onvYuqHs+GKokc9dA577 L41+sydYDA5XgjH5MS06Qo/yIbKQmBs5NlO3+4xZiu27yyKs+vhVYD0VPZkUHnXfu8qF hsziL/Q1yFEHIvE3G796kS45xemiIUd9OTDPVEIBNogUQ3K8auQciJlXX+gBYQnMw4fT 26brkTPvrBpltJrLmQuQ0LnOK81rB9FaprtRZaprYmI8JOUx+/tBA1pujGWjTYZGvgzx m1V//rhRRsThjw6IZtqmxuElDNv0GN7Xu65AKsjj32rgnvGmmCTobEgXRPIWJ903h0xJ Ul4A== BB/t1keRtr+WyLHsh/zpwoPskv6X6CwnXv2PXAo= b20mr238549ots.327.1618507190917; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 10:19:50 -0700 (PDT) References: <9fc87766-8759-1b66-8cb3-d474a68b12b0@bradakis.com> <71989106.314278.1618156000438@mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 10:19:15 -0700 To: Terry Packer Subject: Re: [Tigers] 30 years. 3 decades. From: Joe Byron via Tigers Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============2094238471978966297== --0000000000002e5d8c05c0061238 Dittos on Terry's reply. Thank you. Virus-free. www.avast.com <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 8:52 AM Terry Packer via Tigers < tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > Mark > > The feeling of "Thank You" crosses our minds and enters our thoughts many > more times than the words reach you. For all you have done and continue to > do, especially that which we don't know and can't see, THANK YOU. > > Terry > > **************************************************** > > On Sunday, April 11, 2021, 6:04:14 AM PDT, Mark J Bradakis via Tigers < > tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > > > On this day 30 years ago Team.Net came into being. The British-cars > mailing list was already going strong, an offshoot from rec.autos Usenet > group. Dale Cook, Jim Muller, then me. Team.net went from 2 lists at > the beginning, autox and british-cars, and exploded into nearly 70 > different lists with something like 15,000 individuals subscribed at its > peak. For a while it was pretty much the only game in town. As I > recall, when I attended the SCCA Solo II Nationals 25th Anniversary > event, something like 2/3rds of the 1,000+ entrants were on the autox list. > > And it amazes me that with such a scatterbrained procrastinator like me > behind the curtain it is still on the air. It is a lot quieter these > days, much better software handle many of the janitorial tasks > automatically. Back in the beginning, I had to do *everything* by hand, > so to speak. Subscribes, unsubscribes, errors, I was spending 10, 15, 20 > hours a week maintaining the server. The first server had a 100 MHz > processor. Things have changed. Back then just having a fast network > connection at a residence was rare and expensive. Good old DSL. I > remember that time when my service provider went belly up, and team net > was off the air for 11 days straight. I don't miss those days at all. > > Anyway, happy birthday to those of you still here. I hope I can > continue to provide a useful service for years to come. > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jbyron17@gmail.com > > > --0000000000002e5d8c05c0061238 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dittos on Terry's reply. Thank you.

3D"" Virus-free. www.avast.com

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 8:52 AM Terry Packer via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:<= br>
Mark

The feeling of "Thank You" crosses our minds and enters our t= houghts many more times than the words reach you. For all you have done and= continue to do, especially that which we don't know and can't see,= THANK YOU.

Terry

**********************************= ******************

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On Sunday, April 11, 2021, 6:04:14 AM PDT, Mark J Brada= kis via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:


On this day 30 years ago Team.Net cam= e into being.=C2=A0 The British-cars
mailing lis= t was already going strong, an offshoot from rec.autos Usenet
group.=C2=A0 Dale Cook, Jim Muller, then me. Team.net went fr= om 2 lists at
the beginning, autox and british-c= ars, and exploded into nearly 70
different lists= with something like 15,000 individuals subscribed at its
peak.=C2=A0 For a while it was pretty much the only game in town.= =C2=A0 As I
recall, when I attended the SCCA Sol= o II Nationals 25th Anniversary
event, something= like 2/3rds of the 1,000+ entrants were on the autox list.

And it amazes me that with such a sca= tterbrained procrastinator like me
behind the cu= rtain it is still on the air. It is a lot quieter these
days, much better software handle many of the janitorial tasks
automatically.=C2=A0 Back in the beginning, I had t= o do *everything* by hand,
so to speak. Subscrib= es, unsubscribes, errors, I was spending 10, 15, 20
hours a week maintaining the server.=C2=A0 The first server had a 100 M= Hz
processor.=C2=A0 Things have changed.=C2=A0 B= ack then just having a fast network
connection a= t a residence was rare and expensive.=C2=A0 Good old DSL.=C2=A0 I
remember that time when my service provider went belly up= , and team net
was off the air for 11 days strai= ght.=C2=A0 I don't miss those days at all.
Anyway, happy birthday to those of you still here.= =C2=A0 I hope I can
continue to provide a useful= service for years to come.

mjb.
_______________________________________________

tigers@autox.tea= m.net

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--0000000000002e5d8c05c0061238-- --===============2094238471978966297== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net --===============2094238471978966297==-- From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 15 13:22:06 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA93A0B50 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 13:22:06 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from p-impout004.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net (unknown [47.43.26.135]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69BFEA0B47 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 13:20:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from EricGPC ([98.25.189.245]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id X7XZlwP9gLC0yX7XZl5R7k; Thu, 15 Apr 2021 19:20:38 +0000 a=OMIlHgip19gVsQOYu3Fv5Q==:117 a=OMIlHgip19gVsQOYu3Fv5Q==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=FUUwh5hCObLtqDdpvsEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=pHzHmUro8NiASowvMSCR:22 a=n87TN5wuljxrRezIQYnT:22 To: References: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 15:20:41 -0400 Thread-Index: AdcyIZ9hyU6togPUQW+zFionGu8BfwACEtjg Content-Language: en-us GvwIG6i8PdBiG3g5/NONUvXBUPaDH02wB6tp3PBsOQsadmz9V59ro0Ux Subject: [Tigers] Sunbeam steering wheel hub repair kits and new wooden steering wheels From: Eric Gibeaut via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Randall for buying one of mine and Al's hub repair kits. I have been selling them on eBay for $350+shipping just to cover the extra fees they charge. Will sell direct for $335 and that includes the USPS Priority Mail shipping and insurance to USA addresses. They are now polished to a glossy black as original. A friend of mine now makes very nice wood steering wheels using your core or one of mine. All new wood and made as original. Please email me for more info or photos. Thank you, Eric Gibeaut _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 17 06:58:27 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8246DA11C8 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 06:58:27 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from sonic311-26.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (unknown [66.163.188.207]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03270A1179 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 06:57:32 -0600 (MDT) t=1618664253; bh=gA318hkdJ1iYy8Wx6KF8aQj61gUJYF3rpTW6def2OK8=; h=From:Date:Subject:To:References:From:Subject:Reply-To; b=lAbQ3KqELvHbUEviNZ1uag/VmbW8KKJV+U7xXljr8upM5oosMBTf6Vjl2BQBthWzF6WzlZfBzBNsZFTkZVP+mx5BAECv/HlFu8cENS4U2vmuSs+AYjh1z4+1I1zXGj2njm6LAhg8tZsED6IhSVzydFnVoXkZS9Q4ilNpDhYPNylj2ZMmRv8JrqtJBihbyOry4VF8xqdgDlcl4dzWswgBX2v7EODb68mSMeC3u3Ya57wqwqOYHoobYSPvwpsfPsBdEWOeI93VikWdxGMAyP3SLzoK6TSggV3nFEK1KEirad2dvc6ijR4ej/DO7Ib0DqkkIOYYtK6/VDdHKHDjMuU8hQ== t=1618664253; bh=hng5M2ZJXMRUPCDPwiOjxPGS6/pNgcWgJxWSxa+LWUs=; h=X-Sonic-MF:From:Date:Subject:To:From:Subject; b=SGY+4i9YxbaJRPOn0909ba6dfsb2fYCr1grJvOYWEw0gm6McCyfTcqn58bZUIxev5k4/SFQ/PtTomyWdLLOvI7yLXHYeYUOQ1NZA0LlfLTiHQCoeka/DnMzZFHCnqmazWD9m2IpyLCOViT6Fa5WdK6Js6cWkn2lUlxxjF4S5GvDwuX5znBs5BIg4SB+cmjcu7SC3DJc8K6/018yXaI4+DUDjpf4q0A32iVoXewKd8YncZlMjRxZWcTIVBH4QaDOzdnO3IRg3EUAmYZtQagJLPciISD0yVTjEJm+qORlDcdiIj/eExlI6t/ufYixmv16UTUO0b1MsnuqZHb+9Fz1qyQ== GLpPJD_xTG.WBPPtv6wNoNpKlf_2dR8EXvc3RJSkwdRoGmwKhESycNN..2YZdNXik4V3YKLkg11B criIO_L2Lb9SMU5XLA8w_SHSswFQlR87O95LCxgw9Mi1_ibAdnI6._ZYPqPW2jiQQ_Lv10xLTlEQ u3RXxu44KZmepodyPgmooy8RXppt.Lw5nKRciOYExB4qStBj2Z5PB2OEAO_hOeTyplTKZDgwal90 YnJZKTHLNCrrFGWCbw7vnBJXhSVoIcqZP0k7z0sQbthcaP4zvHWWrix.Z3EpRjTp7vtRa.mlrb5H Ug3rcmbHjkYZ8SqcbKmYCULdWAglHJvaQeWB8wkU2PwsI8LOZhVfJPP_urL_NiTwOBwPVDegy3vJ 4lfsyv_Mj4Ek3f9HtT3hWhUsM4VoIsfblu5.9Rw5JXjDEjvHuignUIBqkSRrLzTZisTZ7Gw2VgGN vVdT8lzLywWZSE8y545_yTZLGNvaV6fjFNBbP9dfoO5wWfEFRC73ZwvFabMMvmfV7lP1r8HGlNJ6 XIWPPssktOYLY9UPLJtzUtqhbzRgHkQfAHLkz7Jr1UiRmXBiDnbYizOadAVcQ5e27XvHheEBjXNQ 5nGmylKxswGrOp1sd.K65nlyJarQaSNcmX.EZGdYqHWbkrMlQ8Yeq8bhFwIoFhmgCoy9003sliBi DMb6ax2HGMcnOv6R37tfCigLOkDK_wva7e8hauAuPvxEsgCPWHkD1JHwIHAKSMZU.fgBW8Lrqu_z MpKDm9zovWU7kPSffXClxUGsblWMUYUXs0y584o4EHqGHqTOaO5eAV8Ku_MwSl6kGbGA0XCEs0A9 O1WTZmyoSrKl3G_zxY.FHifmSvtxcrRmcJ_7Y8ECbdW21aSOFQ6xbzKu0iAKdeEh.1ie5gusaLT3 khC8eUkaM8QBKHwkU6Qo2YMvW3cvThwfPji1M39CgtRdQyon7Cl0RYPQyXu9UDyt1yLmMYUsaiUj wCORGPyx.lNSLsuSaiBPosAy1wVa3ojdBFzfxDFRS0rktMbKBRXE8zaEerqaMZCV_TQ.0y0grRC0 c2QQC3rZS0Bh8GhxxvlNRwwOxJ_ikpoQUXL4tqYi6dwgk1q5KOsDqomzLggP21Km8ZrBk0emON_Q Bp9_SpBwxMUhf5T2U1yMP2dSnUF2kKL2Wt0lEjJDd2IYsjLi76wCs9O4B1pvmutRGWnNSwGbqAmI iONxzMX8rvFxERHSdqICnNQ3cw63_cPBhwHiZ7QAZfBS4NuPqfb1HIjQ4yhKEBAib8llp0BrCWOU SoiafsASpZ0Bx.l6SbI3uvMKnhV.RjQtD9goRyPwZ15osDe6f_M9CB.IvJp_6ihwQBUp_0eHZ01X kmXlm7dx5VP87sJgHvP8lDgH244BOFhA8B7Y3Pol63xboekUK50rr3jcn9bfe_IfkFNUIp7S2tyq vaHrYQNoU59Twz_5QhaeNcl_dBjEe9MSbnsPG8nb0ZxxgSgOpl5P29rl_GToCJyMwalZsKNnztqV .lUOeH3WL1gKh2QxtDPaowIZCZWxyUFUFHPnBueQl8mL2MOuQt3Oi4c9aZ56fr9HkvB9qlIQNzLB lt1y4WFip.SKerh0s3DOxsqiBAeLrpyuZYTSAQmDeYfmtZlIqS3G0mEMHznwWzeRv_Nya1o11ETM QnXluArgwMGmgs5I11iQ7W63PFw44AQL2IY5dHs84sIAmsOEYZHp8zqtkK9E8jO486jlUpIkAF7S EiC5YLzokH3dvUsHpZRzXalSA2J0RXU.0AGzGsQVVt91XnK1WH7V3wRg1zsANlhFwSB_eTbuHHZ9 ec9PY_dpxNJU86MBkTPLJmvwMnMTg.HKPBkXrkQiaD8XpSo4PG7g48geoZvYOVSDlCLa2uhDatLV ji9BcoTOiBk6kQ2Nmnq8vMRtWSXcxBNcGKSfStW6BFWoLYUtYzWqCgv.4WrAysQhpdrXb55OYTEO qsYlaMueI9EsFt.k7t3ubA8DPKkeTxSoalyFerobG4LHYMfCJDUnPzweM_dqMEUYhKsBVO_Rid84 uIs5jyGrmVUbdUkv7HcXkA2cYPPFHt0x0g4QnAdf0iEmQbGUuaT_qN8_JtJIfpuTPiSWA_JVHpf2 EKNOB_7USC4Tj.YbGEmTns1ye9Wh9mBY_arBlsg0Sjit9BnETvLn.t1PSGM0taIonxaxCGzONN6O vybM_tL3ZKKNz1PblNkUTowzgl3RS2LHjz1p0N1UfS0p2LpPfxt_o9EpOmYKemAsdOoASBUlfgmL 3HLyrh802dUu_jLx7o1GIlQ_xzZCfBuRHwXkPlsXlD26uWlnZxd5ghyXG0MrWvyySpfD6uyC8xOt Axb9i_BH6pbLL8UFH6pKr8rgVfRStKocI2gTROQ66xwXpr6i22dge6HsYd0PQJk.JpILMVK4y48Y 3I0fR7MW4W1x7XANRXRqiMi0Wa5OHZmzuiOvwStc_ Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic311.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 12:57:33 +0000 Received: by kubenode579.mail-prod1.omega.gq1.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 73c0a38544c036bd313a183e8157e5e4; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 12:57:29 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 08:57:27 -0400 To: "tigers@autox.team.net" References: <7F0B0932-D15D-4E22-AAAC-1C55F186B884.ref@prodigy.net> Subject: [Tigers] Insurance From: Paul Sheahan via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Tigers Owners, I need to change my insurance on my Tigers. I am currently with Nationwide. Any suggestions would be appreciated including any experience with claims. Thanks, Paul Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 17 07:18:36 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1095A11C3 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 07:18:36 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-oi1-f170.google.com (unknown [209.85.167.170]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62247A11AC for ; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 07:18:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-oi1-f170.google.com with SMTP id e25so832035oii.2 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 06:18:17 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=e/YN+5av2PSCGJFEjvoOQgR728YDDwQWOqbIGO9H3zk=; b=Jo9cID/0begoAakgBArOxbXr9UhXjs9cEws35HEVqbFaS/7KlzZQOnVgNf5fjDN4rA 8smddDBxEAPKR1LMiR2rTXCkOrrzKOyzWQB0iqbIXWfMLA2dlpOKQT/+zUtc+5Z4KaiP VEBJICeK5q9AK6vz8UFV1y58O/uRh7IO+1aO+nvK6AQ0OY9VLajWMtx+668CqcqrUD5z VwLKCyZnRK/+OpiyGZaIIwjPMJ03WpP8gaN4yYOR/4gxCG4+4p79CDcVzBdVDw8uNSZd XidhurW+XMrGj+YKzXKXJeFHU3Sg3SO6aNk/VqOj+bGiL4owNWQ772lSCUZzt9iiscrO mWoQ== d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=e/YN+5av2PSCGJFEjvoOQgR728YDDwQWOqbIGO9H3zk=; b=a0Sfv74XmvIbmxHoxuHKxUnwKBHDjBJEro0JCQC6AxcEqkztStkTT7lVXEaHOnr2k7 ncTpokXnCahSk6J1w3KfcYM490RY/6zwJkigurTGHSlK78CX6lV0JN6p+5tIL/EHqSiX UEWGh7lEeaRe2lgVbo0gFGcGLhz3nF5SNxQTSE5mcOnwgCoi7FKln3qo/ooVcYVvcDJ4 qvrCfjfTlZOP4cNcvIUN0cXT7t/eX95XdB4q95xJIFae25uoH0JsaI2xQ5uzqBKfJEF8 MzFKmJ5HLpi8CZo/7vDV0PFlCa22p9KEhn7Se9AitAvMx1REssrVTmr1frLi4ZL6ISiz DU1g== 4+px7lB9/2Qt5V3tk7pZRAt6BoxfHmCBNIoLG/k= Sat, 17 Apr 2021 06:18:16 -0700 (PDT) References: <7F0B0932-D15D-4E22-AAAC-1C55F186B884.ref@prodigy.net> <7F0B0932-D15D-4E22-AAAC-1C55F186B884@prodigy.net> Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 09:18:06 -0400 To: Paul Sheahan Subject: Re: [Tigers] Insurance From: Tom Parker via Tigers Cc: "tigers@autox.team.net" Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============9137134144346879062== --000000000000f567a005c02aedc8 Both Grundy and Haggarty specialize in "collector cars." I use Grundy, have never had a claim. Tom '67 Mark 2 On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 8:57 AM Paul Sheahan via Tigers < tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: > Tigers Owners, > I need to change my insurance on my Tigers. I am currently with > Nationwide. Any suggestions would be appreciated including any experience > with claims. > Thanks, > Paul > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tkparker1941@gmail.com > > > --000000000000f567a005c02aedc8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Both Grundy and Haggarty specialize=C2=A0in "collecto= r cars." I use Grundy, have never had a claim.

Tom<= /div>
'67 Mark 2

On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 8:57 AM Paul Sheahan = via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.n= et> wrote:
Tigers Owners,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I need to change my insurance on my Tigers.=C2=A0 I am = currently with Nationwide.=C2=A0 Any suggestions would be appreciated inclu= ding any experience with claims.=C2=A0
Thanks,
Paul
Sent from my iPad
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Sat, 17 Apr 2021 13:37:38 +0000 Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 09:37:34 -0400 (EDT) From: "Dr. T. Y. McDowell" To: Paul Sheahan , Paul Sheahan via Tigers References: <7F0B0932-D15D-4E22-AAAC-1C55F186B884.ref@prodigy.net> <7F0B0932-D15D-4E22-AAAC-1C55F186B884@prodigy.net> Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [Tigers] Insurance Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I've used Grundy for years. I've never had a claim. Tym McDowell > On 04/17/2021 8:57 AM Paul Sheahan via Tigers wrote: > > > Tigers Owners, > I need to change my insurance on my Tigers. I am currently with Nationwide. Any suggestions would be appreciated including any experience with claims. > Thanks, > Paul > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tym2@comcast.net _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 17 11:37:19 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 374A5A0FF9 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 11:37:19 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ot1-f53.google.com (unknown [209.85.210.53]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A939A0E68 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 11:36:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-ot1-f53.google.com with SMTP id e89-20020a9d01e20000b0290294134181aeso2899470ote.5 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 10:36:58 -0700 (PDT) h=content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version:subject:date:message-id :references:cc:in-reply-to:to; bh=SVIYPaUrblqpxPqL3VshJiuZ2gMiJ4VqZSyDfjLaRHY=; b=SAwhTGGgiBlzd0LUkgt0kdrPFeX9eCa9VsYl3x0VoX2aZTQk+ioYIg9X4D9qYmtWmP qB3orL65JmfQhBPmFPhafNZKra07QFeapICearbamWn5QJ74CilyZDQPU9tO8SloKbKO ubG+OcNey7bXn671J/P88fOv6IIiwjjy9ukNHRNuSkU58L7jQOicOuYn+nfp9lV8Urfu mnFILRFjBKWQbZ+EnuSUzkVT7j0pD34WECDkIzANOsdC35rwIM8AUUI/waiuwshovE8O xYllzsNJAKSedNfdLCQJSw615TVUVn+LSNEy10CPd7zSgoFbFwEsRPBQ0FLQvx19kVu6 dA7Q== d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version :subject:date:message-id:references:cc:in-reply-to:to; bh=SVIYPaUrblqpxPqL3VshJiuZ2gMiJ4VqZSyDfjLaRHY=; b=ERcbrR2oZVVGyIwjf+403tk5cg+y5ZvPRSTPKQaDviiX1gtiEHQokznkdmowZZRUHa mU2RUCj3qfthtATBkfozP4QAtqQ6UGHt8ZTy6cV8O//nLBk3H3GLY0X8GB06PSlJfNEA /niF/HwrYjij/LubSSnVh9NmJDabnHdfUQDqZPRw08YahU8h1F6u/+8G0As+PhIKNXc7 gWFBdSDbxL2yXmC1SD7etfTdv16hKQwykLKQmdG4GLCC5Y0K8H+NAJU8MxhqapclERAZ CPuXo+2bu9PXbChoSGbPo5B9PeN1VZ6Cm9LOHBTPL6uFcqWU2I0P4cLqjAzQUIRaSC5C Xw5w== lWMdh01cS7eOPt/C3Anh+BXQbaTo15A= Sat, 17 Apr 2021 10:36:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.9] (024-180-215-006.res.spectrum.com. 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[2603:8001:b403:34c2:bc21:cb34:e498:944d]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a65sm8308748pfb.116.2021.04.17.13.45.28 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 17 Apr 2021 13:45:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 13:45:28 -0700 References: <7F0B0932-D15D-4E22-AAAC-1C55F186B884.ref@prodigy.net> <7F0B0932-D15D-4E22-AAAC-1C55F186B884@prodigy.net> <2024829934.344918.1618666654911@connect.xfinity.com> To: "Dr. T. Y. McDowell" Subject: Re: [Tigers] Insurance From: Jay via Tigers Cc: Tigers Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============6988726886340845982== boundary="Apple-Mail=_FD1F85AB-2820-4106-B233-3F5D083BEE79" --Apple-Mail=_FD1F85AB-2820-4106-B233-3F5D083BEE79 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 I=E2=80=99ve posted these thoughts here before. Might as well do it = again: (1) Be sure you know what kind of insurance you are getting: stated = value or agreed value. Stated value means you say the value, and they = bill you premiums at that rate, but in a loss situation, they can still = argue with you about the value (within limits). Agreed value is that = they are agreeing that is the value, and if you have a loss, there is no = haggling on value. I=E2=80=99m not saying stated value is bad. I=E2=80=99= m just saying be sure you know what you are getting - and don=E2=80=99t = assume it is agreed value. (2) Be sure to know what the limits are for your use of the car. Some = of the classic policies will not cover you if you have a loss while in a = hardware store parking lot, or in driving to work, or letting your less = than 25 year old son or daughter drive it. Those all killed it for me = for my uses. I decided it was better to be under insured than uninsured = for my uses. When I spoke to ALL the companies, they all had some form = of limitation that I wasn=E2=80=99t willing to live with. A buddy of mine has an XK140 and he drives it to work all the time. = Good for him. But he says if he ever gets in an accident or its stolen, = he will tell the insurance company he drove it to work that day because = he was taking it to the shop. That might be fine for him. But again, = I=E2=80=99d rather be underinsured than insurance fraud. (3) All of the companies require that you have another car of less than = 15 years old. And for all drivers. You may have that. I actually = don=E2=80=99t. My wife has a newer car. But that didn=E2=80=99t count. On Apr 17, 2021, at 6:37 AM, Dr. T. Y. McDowell = wrote: I've used Grundy for years. I've never had a claim. Tym McDowell > On 04/17/2021 8:57 AM Paul Sheahan via Tigers =20 >=20 > Tigers Owners, > I need to change my insurance on my Tigers. I am currently with = Nationwide. Any suggestions would be appreciated including any = experience with claims. =20 > Thanks, > Paul > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ >=20 > tigers@autox.team.net >=20 > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers = http://autox.team.net/archive >=20 > Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/tym2@comcast.net = _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers = http://autox.team.net/archive = Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com = --Apple-Mail=_FD1F85AB-2820-4106-B233-3F5D083BEE79 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 I=E2=80=99ve posted these thoughts here before.  Might = as well do it again:

(1)  Be sure you know what kind of insurance you are = getting: stated value or agreed value.  Stated value means you say = the value, and they bill you premiums at that rate, but in a loss = situation, they can still argue with you about the value (within = limits).  Agreed value is that they are agreeing that is the value, = and if you have a loss, there is no haggling on value.  I=E2=80=99m = not saying stated value is bad.  I=E2=80=99m just saying be sure = you know what you are getting - and don=E2=80=99t assume it is agreed = value.

(2) =  Be sure to know what the limits are for your use of the car. =  Some of the classic policies will not cover you if you have a loss = while in a hardware store parking lot, or in driving to work, or letting = your less than 25 year old son or daughter drive it.  Those all = killed it for me for my uses.  I decided it was better to be under = insured than uninsured for my uses.  When I spoke to ALL the = companies, they all had some form of limitation that I wasn=E2=80=99t = willing to live with.

A buddy of mine has an XK140 and he drives it to work all the = time.  Good for him.  But he says if he ever gets in an = accident or its stolen, he will tell the insurance company he drove it = to work that day because he was taking it to the shop.  That might = be fine for him.  But again, I=E2=80=99d rather be underinsured = than insurance fraud.

(3)  All of the companies require that you have another = car of less than 15 years old.  And for all drivers.  You may = have that.  I actually don=E2=80=99t.  My wife has a newer = car.  But that didn=E2=80=99t count.






On = Apr 17, 2021, at 6:37 AM, Dr. T. Y. McDowell <tym2@comcast.net> = wrote:

I've used Grundy for years.  I've never had a = claim.

Tym = McDowell
On = 04/17/2021 8:57 AM Paul Sheahan via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:


Tigers Owners,
    I need to change my insurance on my = Tigers.  I am currently with Nationwide.  Any suggestions = would be appreciated including any experience with claims.  
Thanks,
Paul
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= --Apple-Mail=_FD1F85AB-2820-4106-B233-3F5D083BEE79-- --===============6988726886340845982== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net --===============6988726886340845982==-- From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 17 17:25:23 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0DA2A117F for ; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 17:25:23 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from omta012.uswest2.a.cloudfilter.net (unknown [35.164.127.235]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC4CFA089E for ; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 17:24:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cxr.smtp.a.cloudfilter.net ([10.0.17.211]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id XjpSllnTPcOUdXuIflkML6; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 23:24:29 +0000 Received: from studio ([98.164.212.96]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id XuIdlHhwUYoOsXuIelvOPa; Sat, 17 Apr 2021 23:24:29 +0000 Authentication-Results: cox.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) smtp.auth=dsmtjoy@cox.net a=uw2kDI+wBmIQfgAYpNWuSw==:117 a=uw2kDI+wBmIQfgAYpNWuSw==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=H4AHaDPhHl0n9zSGQkoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=pHzHmUro8NiASowvMSCR:22 a=6VlIyEUom7LUIeUMNQJH:22 From: "Darrell Mountjoy" To: References: Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2021 16:24:50 -0700 Thread-Index: AQKb8GyUWliFNXrC8FRG2m6sV5LUpKkv33xQ Content-Language: en-us I3K9W+4nZXMlgerPc10q/rwBAgEJx51vRZ8RNCHOYKzgNn/X3NpEc+FUO2OdY/dnO2dzS1qwmoD8Rg== Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 14, Issue 50 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net My 2 cents: Stay away from Hagerty. They screwed me on the Le Mans Tiger (long story). They screwed a friend on his original Cobra. Just my experience with that company. Darrell B9499998, B94701035 Today's Topics: 1. Insurance (Paul Sheahan) 2. Re: Insurance (Tom Parker) 3. Re: Insurance (jimdamelio) 4. Re: Insurance (Dr. T. Y. McDowell) 5. Re: Insurance (Bob Wanty) 6. 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Mon, 19 Apr 2021 17:14:51 +0000 Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 17:14:48 +0000 (UTC) To: "tigers@autox.team.net" , Paul Sheahan References: <7F0B0932-D15D-4E22-AAAC-1C55F186B884.ref@prodigy.net> <7F0B0932-D15D-4E22-AAAC-1C55F186B884@prodigy.net> x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/89.0.4389.90 Safari/537.36 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Insurance From: Randall Antosiak via Tigers Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============0590129933963422221== boundary="----=_Part_2606224_200018488.1618852488313" ------=_Part_2606224_200018488.1618852488313 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Previously I had Haggerty and now have Grundy.=C2=A0 =C2=A0No claims on ei= ther.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I switched because Grundy cost about half of Haggerty.=C2= =A0 =C2=A0Also, I vaguely recall that Haggerty restricts car usage to club = events, whereas Grundy has no such restriction.=C2=A0 I could be wrong abou= t this. On Saturday, April 17, 2021, 05:58:26 AM PDT, Paul Sheahan via Tigers <= tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: =20 =20 Tigers Owners, =C2=A0 =C2=A0 I need to change my insurance on my Tigers.=C2=A0 I am curren= tly with Nationwide.=C2=A0 Any suggestions would be appreciated including a= ny experience with claims.=C2=A0=20 Thanks, Paul Sent from my iPad _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/randya@pacbell.ne= t =20 ------=_Part_2606224_200018488.1618852488313 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Previously I had Haggerty an= d now have Grundy.   No claims on either.   I switched = because Grundy cost about half of Haggerty.   Also, I vaguely rec= all that Haggerty restricts car usage to club events, whereas Grundy has no= such restriction.  I could be wrong about this.

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On Saturday, April 17, 2021, 05:58:26 AM PDT, Paul Shea= han via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:


Tigers Owners,
    I need to change my insurance on my Tigers.  I am c= urrently with Nationwide.  Any suggestions would be appreciated includ= ing any experience with claims. 
Thanks,
Paul
Sent from my iPad
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------=_Part_2606224_200018488.1618852488313-- --===============0590129933963422221== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net --===============0590129933963422221==-- From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 21 13:06:32 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB7DA0CD7 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 13:06:32 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from p-impout007.msg.pkvw.co.charter.net (unknown [47.43.26.138]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4358EA0CC7 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 13:06:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from TerryLaellsiMac.lan ([24.28.104.118]) by cmsmtp with ESMTP id ZIAtlyD7UF2vNZIAtlw2kW; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 19:06:12 +0000 a=MxgOd8cutTslopuX4XXsCg==:117 a=MxgOd8cutTslopuX4XXsCg==:17 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=9XkOnhdPxtlI0he8e7kA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 14:06:11 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: tigers@autox.team.net To8Gt8nLAmkNnv1AihSH+i7pC0/56GfR11oRGybBCZM/clQohUituXw3nO4M3hXGFb4gp2QwmkG4JQ== Subject: [Tigers] Carburetor input pressure From: Terry Lawell via Tigers Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net I just put an Edelbrock electric fuel pump on my 66 MK1A with an original 2 barrel carb . The pump had a rating of 4-7psi. At idle it is reading 8.5psi. I have not yet tested it under load. Is the 8.5psi too high for the float control valve to operate properly and should i put a regulator on it? Any input appreciated. Terry _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 21 14:02:02 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7456AA0DE1 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 14:02:02 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@Autox.Team.Net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (unknown [216.200.145.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B602AA0C15 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 14:00:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.16.0.43/8.16.0.43) with SMTP id 13LJmPCN000456; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 13:00:49 -0700 Received: by m0116791.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 620d3956) id m0116791.6062203f.ad470; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 13:00:48 -0700 From: "Ron Fraser" To: "'Terry Lawell'" References: <608077A3.6030406@austin.rr.com> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 16:00:48 -0400 Thread-Index: AQJPG1mhE1bW+KmesRqS86uqeeX936nPmfvw Content-Language: en-us definitions=2021-04-21_05:2021-04-21, 2021-04-21 signatures=0 impostorscore=0 spamscore=0 malwarescore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 phishscore=0 priorityscore=1501 lowpriorityscore=0 clxscore=1011 mlxlogscore=999 suspectscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2104060000 definitions=main-2104210136 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Carburetor input pressure Cc: tigers@Autox.Team.Net Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Terry I believe the Autolite carb is looking for a max of 4.5 psi. The original SU pump delivered about 2 psi. You need to check the running fuel pressure to know if you will need a regulator or a lower psi pump. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers On Behalf Of Terry Lawell via Tigers Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2021 3:06 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Carburetor input pressure I just put an Edelbrock electric fuel pump on my 66 MK1A with an original 2 barrel carb . The pump had a rating of 4-7psi. At idle it is reading 8.5psi. I have not yet tested it under load. Is the 8.5psi too high for the float control valve to operate properly and should i put a regulator on it? Any input appreciated. Terry _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/rfraser@bluefrog.com _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 21 14:32:18 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A8A9A0EA5 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 14:32:18 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pg1-f181.google.com (unknown [209.85.215.181]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C8A5A0E64 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 14:31:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-pg1-f181.google.com with SMTP id t22so31083566pgu.0 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 13:31:58 -0700 (PDT) h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc:to :references; bh=M/5KcnbcRMwysxoNj2yllS3s1lu5dkxHXGGOx2I3ThE=; b=t2tQXvsvzBKbsx+TUkUasnT+bKWeAq/6guRI5fM948qF3Kp/OnxmXAGfYx/7g9CkrC SHrteGT7ExQsvubEmJtGs0eRmjIyKr+tS1O/HkpaYeukRUNaLfxS/1Bsu2XdiyruMM5j Dm9A184FY36Ygb/7nxn4SDbzxAe9Q3Y6GhKK67xdI+GqDKELdrOZMYvNrpiXTAjKnEDk 8mGm+YpaQo9atww70Hb9MMT68zNxC5G5VYyotwNOE+2X++bR6gw2AjMGqsyB8aAvPfyZ fflKbmxwltPjWbZAoMWrpBnGSrBOTEPkC/iwzMD9L8UrB/Tk7GBNacxEdILOERg8m6Vb 3o0g== d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=M/5KcnbcRMwysxoNj2yllS3s1lu5dkxHXGGOx2I3ThE=; b=BSnFH5Q/LjETrrYK9n+Ni7ktfygVBBcSVSNMlaQkS0P1AzGFh7Xq15tSrlPicvFYBM jPQgQfaJpyqnPyaEZ/6SYjUl9Li9sbfmdhfKm8PO1AaSpcj0CYfAXeZTFqFXRcg0bBZ0 e4Sbzdjk/OKThwl8WYzNJcgNT2l2GoXMYYFFJModlLdMxx8ATLxydB6xPDzi5uwJVDTS oSVX+kvTYhkufwzTd7fDaKMO4ODz7rRBbbthuqpKnLnHdF4aCnvjD/SV5XokTr63Qyvh +hMLM0FNLDO/OCxNlZFxzVzpSvrPyHDDumOw9+LF5bBHWW3ECQ+czXZv9jP9jBQH34BL 3VZQ== DrbB47HHXLEK2fR5mlYiDhw= Wed, 21 Apr 2021 13:31:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.48] (cpe-23-242-21-15.socal.res.rr.com. [23.242.21.15]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v18sm168189pff.90.2021.04.21.13.31.56 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 21 Apr 2021 13:31:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 13:31:55 -0700 To: Ron Fraser References: <608077A3.6030406@austin.rr.com> <000001d736e9$074ebec0$15ec3c40$@bluefrog.com> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Carburetor input pressure From: Jay via Tigers Cc: Tigers Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============7191491748042718335== boundary="Apple-Mail=_3530BA71-9C70-4B54-96D4-414B64A95F95" --Apple-Mail=_3530BA71-9C70-4B54-96D4-414B64A95F95 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 I do not know the specifics on the Tiger carb. I do know from other car = that when they say 2.5-3 psi for Webers, they really mean it. Higher = pressure doesn=E2=80=99t help with performance, and can only hurt. But = further, I understand the volume of flow is also equally critical in = picking the right fuel pump. On Apr 21, 2021, at 1:00 PM, Ron Fraser wrote: Terry I believe the Autolite carb is looking for a max of 4.5 psi. The original SU pump delivered about 2 psi. You need to check the running fuel pressure to know if you will need a regulator or a lower psi pump. Ron Fraser=20 -----Original Message----- From: Tigers _______________________________________________ Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers = http://autox.team.net/archive = Unsubscribe: = http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/jay.laifman@gmail.com = --Apple-Mail=_3530BA71-9C70-4B54-96D4-414B64A95F95 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable charset=utf-8 I = do not know the specifics on the Tiger carb.  I do know from other = car that when they say 2.5-3 psi for Webers, they really mean it. =  Higher pressure doesn=E2=80=99t help with performance, and can = only hurt.  But further, I understand the volume of flow is also = equally critical in picking the right fuel pump.


On Apr 21, 2021, at 1:00 = PM, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:

Terry
= I believe the = Autolite carb is looking for a max of 4.5 psi.
The original SU pump delivered = about 2 psi.
You need to = check the running fuel pressure to know if you will need a
regulator or a lower psi = pump.

Ron = Fraser 

-----Original = Message-----
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Subject: [Tigers] Carburetor = input pressure

I just put an Edelbrock electric fuel pump on my 66 MK1A with = an original 2
barrel carb . = The pump had a rating of 4-7psi. At idle it is reading 8.5psi.
I have not yet tested it under = load. Is the 8.5psi too high for the float
control valve to operate properly and should i put a = regulator on it? Any
input appreciated.

Terry
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Early registration for SUNI = is now open! And the Hilton Hotel is now accepting reservations from = SUNI participants.
This early registration period only lasts = about a month and offers substantial discounts over the costs = during standard registration which will begin June 1st.
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SUNI registration: https://sunbeamsunited.com/registration/<= br>Official SUNI website: https://sunbeamsunited.com/
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------=_NextPart_000_1658_01D736C0.249C9020-- --===============5126953413952734802== Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net --===============5126953413952734802==-- From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 21 19:32:43 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF3D7A0E84 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 19:32:43 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lf1-f48.google.com (unknown [209.85.167.48]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA17A0D86 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 19:31:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-lf1-f48.google.com with SMTP id y4so29429423lfl.10 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2021 18:31:52 -0700 (PDT) h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=UtyNUF8ndHrFLpiCUvxa3Yhpep1QC+hol5D5DsGQpb4=; b=Cxs1cxPxxvwAlcMyckwZFXRiiEogzEnZu1S3htR1lfOw99ylyvkKQL/D4KPzc4hliS HUBjW4pjYpztEby6+WQoOdAOy3gt9iUmiLRIwbrvFqJ8Pkyx+loMbP5BDcQntOJ+V5eG gIZMTh00y5AI6UWhJI6jUarrPE5vIXotzOPEjZie9d3NJiJBp1qk9jgvDufphEZvVlzh u8EMzoyF42zx1vwxdYaRfxdTvADZvrQhhWqtB9AqV9yAUzJ6SsWAJV8WTNyHZ+VqTmyJ tBOT12pCtqbvYaaizTYxDXdWKVS/3LvI1DnOflp8uWFf7DH97Jw/aXXcvC18U9RY452z pEOQ== d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=UtyNUF8ndHrFLpiCUvxa3Yhpep1QC+hol5D5DsGQpb4=; b=QtGmRkBgX3CRM3cGQsIvFcQLZ8YqSuzul1g9xyWIkUA4a6txZH674G3F+UaZVzMmoI 4DqGZUKsnDyxtrjOVY3dQC5aV0AeeNqqFBAuon3arUnhwCR6JspuhnrlDtYHlXX7hBhQ 4pIS0B5kysJgU7JsK5//Pn1TXwG6TLEoRL4MjLlxcZ4SLMBSNFexbdgkotEuj27+aoha BhA346NdXSNg6XTWVOozYnZl4y1TI7TGYZHI1l3FDJE0Q45c5QAV44hS9O+KOCDodSv9 QbMTcz43nYPQfSSfJi6bW7y/Yc2g5Kr9/9wPEZgFoopO6RG60EfdCtdxyav6NiFevJyx bGGA== EMEc2dULUwLokJKQy10kNPqgXzchai0Vv/l1UpQ= Wed, 21 Apr 2021 18:31:51 -0700 (PDT) References: <608077A3.6030406@austin.rr.com> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 09:31:39 +0800 To: Terry Lawell Subject: Re: [Tigers] Carburetor input pressure From: michael king via Tigers Cc: Tiger Talk List Tiger Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net --===============4472852422127873010== --000000000000c44d4b05c085a40d Terry, Carbs are low pressure fuel systems, often bellow 3psi. what is important for a larger carb is not pressure but GPA (flow rate) I cant give you the specific for your carb, but i'd be shocked if the required psi was above 4... and at over that you will be causing yourself issues. Ask the edelbrock tech guys what psi AND flow rate they recommend. On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 03:06, Terry Lawell via Tigers wrote: > I just put an Edelbrock electric fuel pump on my 66 MK1A with an > original 2 barrel carb . The pump had a rating of 4-7psi. At idle it is > reading 8.5psi. I have not yet tested it under load. Is the 8.5psi too > high for the float control valve to operate properly and should i put a > regulator on it? Any input appreciated. > > Terry > _______________________________________________ > > tigers@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/michael.s.king@gmail.com > > > -- Regards Michael King --000000000000c44d4b05c085a40d Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Terry,

Carbs are low pressure fuel syst= ems, often bellow 3psi. what is important for a larger carb is not pressure= but GPA (flow rate)
I cant=C2=A0give you the specific for your c= arb, but i'd be shocked if the required psi was above 4... and at over = that you will be causing yourself issues.

Ask the = edelbrock tech guys what psi AND flow rate they recommend.



On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 03:06, Terry Lawell via Tigers &l= t;tigers@autox.team.net> wr= ote:
I just put = an Edelbrock electric fuel pump on my 66 MK1A with an
original 2 barrel carb . The pump had a rating of 4-7psi. At idle it is reading 8.5psi. I have not yet tested it under load. Is the 8.5psi too
high for the float control valve to operate properly and should i put a regulator on it? Any input appreciated.

Terry
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classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2104060000 definitions=main-2104220026 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Carburetor input From: Ron Fraser via Tigers Cc: tigers@Autox.Team.Net Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net VGVycnkKCVRoZSBTaG9wIE1hbnVhbCBpbmRpY2F0ZXMgdGhhdCB0aGUgVGlnZXIgU1UgZnVlbCBw dW1wIGRlbGl2ZXJzIDE1IEdhbC8gaG91ci4KVGhhdCByYXRlIG9mIGZ1ZWwgaXMgYWRlcXVhdGUg Zm9yIGFib3V0IDIwMCBIUCBzbyBpdCBlYXNpbHkgY292ZXJzIHRoZSBmdWVsIHJlcXVpcmVtZW50 cyBmb3IgdGhlIE1LIEkgYW5kIE1rIElJLgoKSSBiZWxpZXZlIHRoZSBUaWdlcidzIDUvMTYiIGZ1 ZWwgbGluZSBoYXMgdGhlIGNhcGFjaXR5IHRvIHN1cHBseSB1cCB0byAzMDAgSFAsIGFyb3VuZCA0 MDAgSFAgeW91IG5lZWQgMy84IiBsaW5lIHRvIHN1cHBseSBhZGVxdWF0ZSBhbW91bnQgb2YgZnVl bC4KUm9uIEZyYXNlcgoKLS0tLS1PcmlnaW5hbCBNZXNzYWdlLS0tLS0KRnJvbTogVGlnZXJzIDx0 aWdlcnMtYm91bmNlc0BhdXRveC50ZWFtLm5ldD4gT24gQmVoYWxmIE9mIFRlcnJ5IExhd2VsbCB2 aWEgVGlnZXJzClNlbnQ6IFdlZG5lc2RheSwgQXByaWwgMjEsIDIwMjEgOTozNSBQTQpUbzogdGln 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25 Apr 2021 23:05:50 +0000 a=MxgOd8cutTslopuX4XXsCg==:117 a=MxgOd8cutTslopuX4XXsCg==:17 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=nkCrK_HjCW0FN5rfx6UA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 18:05:49 -0500 From: Terry Lawell User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 To: tigers@autox.team.net oL7mlum3h7lekR4JmWoU0QTbaTf6no+hc0L2FQNjBh19s36Oad3PuZqoQ5MxsOZgPN/pju9Oqe2W6w== Subject: [Tigers] Mk1A 2 barrel carburetor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Can anyone tell me where the best place is to buy a stock 2 barrel carb for my MK1A? Cheers, Terry _______________________________________________ tigers@autox.team.net Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/tigers http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/tigers/mharc@autox.team.net From tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 25 18:15:40 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from [50.198.190.17] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287FDA0AE5 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 18:15:40 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@autox.team.net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (unknown [216.200.145.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 768CDA0688 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 18:13:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (omta004.sj2.proofpoint.com [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.16.0.43/8.16.0.43) with SMTP id 13Q08unt032526; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 17:13:38 -0700 Received: by m0116791.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 620d3956) id m0116791.6062203f.cc236; Sun, 25 Apr 2021 17:13:37 -0700 From: "Ron Fraser" To: "'Terry Lawell'" , References: <6085F5CD.9040008@austin.rr.com> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 20:13:36 -0400 Thread-Index: AQLZDnVB5ZsFrO3R5G2C8fHKQpATRKjCQLxA Content-Language: en-us definitions=2021-04-25_11:2021-04-23, 2021-04-25 signatures=0 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxlogscore=998 spamscore=0 suspectscore=0 clxscore=1015 impostorscore=0 bulkscore=0 mlxscore=0 adultscore=0 malwarescore=0 priorityscore=1501 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2104060000 definitions=main-2104250182 Subject: Re: [Tigers] Mk1A 2 barrel carburetor Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net Terry Are you looking for a remanufactured carb or an original Autolite carb? Remanufactured carb should be available through Mustang or Falcon catalogs - I think NAPA still sell carbs. Original carb is an Autolite ID# C4DF-S for a Mk1A - list members or swap meets. Ron Fraser -----Original Message----- From: Tigers On Behalf Of Terry Lawell Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2021 7:06 PM To: tigers@autox.team.net Subject: [Tigers] Mk1A 2 barrel carburetor Can anyone tell me where the best place is to buy a stock 2 barrel carb for my MK1A? 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Tue, 27 Apr 2021 17:49:46 -0600 (MDT) Delivered-To: tigers@Autox.Team.Net Received: from imta-38.everyone.net (unknown [216.200.145.36]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA1BA16FA for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2021 17:48:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from pps.filterd (m0004960.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by imta-38.everyone.net (8.16.0.43/8.16.0.43) with SMTP id 13RNlI4m019074 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2021 16:48:58 -0700 Received: by m0116791.mta.everyone.net (EON-AUTHRELAY2 - 620d3956) id m0116791.6062203f.d31c9 for ; Tue, 27 Apr 2021 16:48:57 -0700 From: "Ron Fraser" To: Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2021 19:48:58 -0400 Thread-Index: Adc7vmnlYmC/DU3MQVGU1wjQlKHzeQ== Content-Language: en-us definitions=2021-04-27_13:2021-04-27, 2021-04-27 signatures=0 priorityscore=1501 adultscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 spamscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=715 phishscore=0 mlxscore=0 bulkscore=0 clxscore=1015 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2104060000 definitions=main-2104270163 Subject: [Tigers] FYI Errors-To: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============5079008968939148691== boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01D73B9E.5E720040" Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01D73B9E.5E720040 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI Bob Mannel's book - Mustang and Ford Small block V8 1962 - 1969 is now also in PDF format. fordsmallblock.com RPM Press If your interested in the Ford engine subject. There is a small amount of Tiger engine information included now. I recently sent Bob a note about an error I saw in his Appendix D and some additional information. Bob made the corrections by the next day. I have no connection to this publication other than emailing Bob with mostly Ford engine questions. Ron Fraser ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01D73B9E.5E720040 charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

FYI

 

Bob = Mannel’s book – Mustang and Ford Small block V8 1962 – = 1969 is now also in PDF format.

fordsmallblock.com      &= nbsp; RPM = Press           If = your interested in the Ford engine subject.

 

There is a = small amount of Tiger engine information included now.

 

I recently = sent Bob a note about an error I saw in his Appendix D and some = additional information.

Bob made the = corrections by the next day.

 

I have no = connection to this publication other than emailing Bob with mostly Ford = engine questions.

 

Ron = Fraser

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Does anyone have the fitting to attach the vacuum pipe/hose to the servo on a Tiger. Need the servo and intake fittings. Banjo?bolts and such.? I'm asking for a friend who's Tiger came without a servo.? He has rebuilt a 7" unit, but doesn't have the fittings.? He would prefer the MKIA vacuum pipe setup, but would be happy with the MKI hose setup. I assume the Alpine is the same except for intake fittings.? Lots of people run without servo's, so figure there might be some laying around.Jim DSent from my Galaxy
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         &= nbsp;      I’m trying to sort out some of = the information about the stock Tiger Distributors.

 

Has anyone = run the advance curve on their stock Tiger distributor?

What are the numbers?

 

Stock Tiger = distributors have ID#s – C4OF-A – has oil port, Z5TF-C and = C5AF-M

 

Has anyone pulled apart their stock Tiger distributor = or vacuum advance canister?

 

What color = is the Primary spring with short end loops and the Secondary spring with = the longer end loops.

What color is = the spring in the vacuum canister.

 

Send picture = if you have them.

 

Thanks for = your help

Ron = Fraser

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