From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 17 20:57:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22732D080D for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 20:57:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.enterhost.com (mail05.enterhost.com [208.65.128.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 600182D077B for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 20:56:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 99-187-242-14.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.187.242.14] by mail05.enterhost.com with SMTP; Tue, 17 Apr 2012 21:57:13 -0500 From: "G.D. Huggins" Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 21:57:13 -0500 Message-Id: To: RedRiverTriumph@yahoogroups.com, triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [TR] TR4A - Advance Created Noise X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net All, I need some help and advice for an issue that has resurfaced after installing a freshly rebuilt dizzy. When the mechanical advance kicks in (I disconnected the vacuum advance) around 2200 rpm, I hear a very noticeable buzzing/rattling noise. This not only happens when advanced "up" (low to high RPM), but also when stepping "down" (high to low RPM). However, the engine suffers no performance loss, and there appear to be no other symptoms. This was happening straight away after I got the car on the road last September, with a brand new pertronix dizzy. When the rotor from it broke, I sent it back to Pertronix, and dropped in my original Lucas 25D, and the sound went away. I had the Lucas rebuilt, put it back in, and the sound is back. Certainly this can't be normal, so something must be amiss. Any suggestions? Cheers, Guy D. Huggins 1965 Triumph TR4A CTC 63569LO Online project diary at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 18 12:35:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D0F2D073F for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:35:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com (mail-we0-f169.google.com [74.125.82.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2BCC2D088A for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:28:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by werj55 with SMTP id j55so6971563wer.14 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 11:29:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=teW8UMd1ItS0CN+5KdHbQkBze2g5JXj5j0KO5G1SyWc=; b=pKIsC1pJt4LXutLKNPYe+GXLKd/KRhw+y17YV/MtfZgPJsd81wQ/pXiUKQ2KFa33J6 s+HFV8BDCLLcIx/EFy0aCJnhH3WvoJbMYv8CEmBdCY825/gaIw8Y41JbJRG4A2qCi+LA +VoO0dK6dnGONa5v1FRtqS7oWNMw8GbD7PqtWZBJjQ3Vpd9MneTmeYlaf63HP0l1A7WB NY+fcMadoPwNXDJh/uRe4syzYeqpdpTj3OpWD7u60SaFMIAGyJdVETQeAelXUiG1ZkKg lzgv/3Lk0vCDz2cjyDOGbntSn+dd9Nmp4YKbHt8bTo3APq73rPkc6GnUafGZ4wcBizHE a8ww== Received: by 10.180.24.7 with SMTP id q7mr19274210wif.11.1334773752850; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 11:29:12 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.138.224 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 11:28:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Chris Simo Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:28:52 -0400 Message-ID: To: list Triumph X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] tr4 brake riddle X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Just started digging into a brake issue. I thought I'd share the symptom and see who comes up with the winning diagnosis. Thought it was a broken spring in the master cylinder and it's not. Brake pedal would go halfway to the floor before engaging. Rear brakes are adjusted correctly and it takes 2 clicks on the brake handle to get the car to hold firm. opened up the master cylinder and the spring is intact and I dont see any scoring on the bore. Since it's out I'll rebuild it - but I don't see that it really needs it. What else could it be? Thanks Chris ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 18 12:54:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B892D0859 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:54:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A29582D0859 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:53:52 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=jerryvv@roadrunner.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=ReYS+iRv c=1 sm=0 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=hpfUK_MfTzkaXj7Y8OMA:9 a=4tQ4elA8DdNbudjw_1QA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=0vUscowIxtUA:10 a=kPDWxe0Y+AmzkgVshK7X5A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.176] ([10.127.132.176:61870] helo=cdptpa-web25-z02) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 33/CC-07741-8DD0F8F4; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 18:54:16 +0000 Message-ID: <20120418185416.HM381.67755.root@cdptpa-web25-z02> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:54:16 -0400 From: To: list Triumph , Chris Simo In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] tr4 brake riddle X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Chris, there is a lot of lost motion in the linkage. The clevis pins can wear as well as the holes they go thru on the pedal box as well as the Master Cylinder itself. By the time that lost motion gets to your foot on the pedal it can be significant. Some folks have welded up the holes and re-drilled them. So check the pins for wear. JVV ---- Chris Simo wrote: > Just started digging into a brake issue. I thought I'd share the symptom > and see who comes up with the winning diagnosis. > > Thought it was a broken spring in the master cylinder and it's not. > > Brake pedal would go halfway to the floor before engaging. Rear brakes are > adjusted correctly and it takes 2 clicks on the brake handle to get the car > to hold firm. > > opened up the master cylinder and the spring is intact and I dont see any > scoring on the bore. Since it's out I'll rebuild it - but I don't see that > it really needs it. > > What else could it be? > > Thanks > > Chris > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jerryvv@roadrunner.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 18 13:11:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C262D08A4 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:11:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm28-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.234]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B35432D0830 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:11:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.63] by nm28.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Apr 2012 19:11:32 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.67] by tm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Apr 2012 19:11:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Apr 2012 19:11:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 230192.62936.bm@omp1004.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 33821 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Apr 2012 19:11:32 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1334776292; bh=/L0reGnoTRHYmPe+lhGmVlPoURIDmmDGDeBo0akNwSI=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=adI9ImEFi10VXsLf69EGOyRi8XHRRv2n9BkEcbAQRkntS9aL6fHT7m6gS9zumzEHcD6IDklBiUMaYITfYjfBYYIjVQK2CjSYo3vnTxFJQahf8FfLt6grOu/UuvVYlcnYE7QbRLseCV0xaHWeJ/YW0YAwJ/UF8EwZ1FOzJ5g00KI= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0DCeN/8XpeY0kpyPQ0bEtZ2XMFOxnVAtONmXlEJnDkcg9oKYYTUVs1woHr3c7qR0QjcZcnQQBeK4jfirvt8g1ljGiTOwY4PbDaKZGGTaS/k8eJUSOx7CmE/C5jA95SDFT1NkSc6mQnFm/TmpjI9wdos9YNj7t3CHdTLAoAYxrGs=; X-YMail-OSG: PY5s3hsVM1lrWCoooCust0bS100kdfTuFEaBSkI.IA7RjCD iCOFz_zM7oK5kd_24eZbIGGqSmnBdhuTNPAzLY7.LcMSo4P6sXoX2Ia4HYj_ 4VnkmUb0eiNobfyW23KfkhEzAm1QiPgU3x7.DY743e7VSP8k68yeF5O2up87 D4oAvjPrVQ4mDk3QvSxQoUC4v7Qyx7TEpTyuNvhE_VyBVAXY2qzOWFaFMNBj pSbzn4TXlS2A7h0liAbvmCdNOwj7OvKEI8EA4C3C9wJrKhspgApVMJ8EuzEl ReqP1gtfL6l3AcEIPUD8Z3zt.UZ_Och.zldob2mjqxkoUO2dpLlrz8WIdYBN 3MmeC1bR602_8NHwPzdY6jnizoCggpYNYhi2rkjdW3Kzm2vjIaAIXLe5C_H9 H2znmy35nNdL6Ed_L5mvTxrHebIHqlkoZ_Bm8DDyrOvAqU2.MmA_1yFDlngV wdWsbJCyP0OIh3KRZLnEnfkfUyrA79EtAL8cY.oYALQttG16jBoYBlgh0gI. 3rzijeI7w Received: from [12.230.47.66] by web83308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:11:32 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/708 YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 Message-ID: <1334776292.3628.YahooMailRC@web83308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:11:32 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [TR] Classic Car Prices X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Is it just me or have classic car prices peaked again? It seems like 2 or 3 years ago I posted something to the list about how some Morgans had become available for under $10,000 and some Lotus Elan +2 driver's were dipping under $10K again. Now looking at bringatrailer.com or the Hemmings E-newletter I am shocked and dismayed by the asking prices of barn finds and restoration projects. Italian cars seem to be especially hyped. Morris Minor Travelers (little woody wagons) seem to be heading towards $20K for good ones. Porsche 356's are ridiculous as are earlier 911's. Even old VW bugs seem to be going up. Maybe it is just inflation. I recently looked at a series 2 Jaguar E-type coupe for $10K. It had been rear-ended and poorly repaired (the whole shell was tweaked) and I passed. It seems to me that a TR3 or MGB is still the most bang for the buck out there. FWIW - miscellaneous ramblings from my desk at work. Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 18 13:56:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF502D089C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:56:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm27.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm27.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.97]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 75E452D082E for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 13:56:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.69] by nm27.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Apr 2012 19:56:27 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.71] by tm9.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Apr 2012 19:55:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1008.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Apr 2012 19:55:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 161337.25242.bm@omp1008.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 83437 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Apr 2012 19:55:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1334778926; bh=l57g1OmdjNKM4E0IB8OKEZLcNWHq/K/9fLC3bwfPrE0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=0HQhPcpkWyqYnRyasV9ZNxJKL8Z1cSBE5TbbLlN+APTCITapw4wFHIIVRi0ydAbuGdMQZ1rMH3roo/tM9UvGORCQw6o5EDerJjlvoqfl6EDVZQyU6L9lUKkCVNRPVaN+HIfin/LtY/5gDExJkQtmswbkRRszmaCGptCS1H1gF40= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=162jQ+uPFMGME9yelPJBWlpVTuQpGvTuo4D68VXSZ1D+ZII9v3EPhXLsbyUQiX5lpQ2gJk0CgFHcezPCK6qkAajV4n6sAEg312ft5yG+tmCQ0vZLveG3X4bKTUsuyiJE9qUTr3DyNoUSH/qUCVPBnfLeqWK11FRjrBhf8EQ9FZc=; X-YMail-OSG: aHTzmbIVM1nW8zHesMkpzX1ZTdTOx3FvFsgx3I57.0Dow6R b1vMGMOnzS5h551X44BIC8jGV_gzm9b5W5L0pJQ4.EslXhwftxIfcHm968Td VSZxWApfkqgNpVnnnAXbIpLRx.kyYfZlap_Z2C4pwefUVnbCQ84k6jj7i1o9 xuiIRFYBjFpsqPAM4jw2l4kGfDJvwrnN93mIH0jGzag2QiIRQ6Og2jgwCatT Nn__UohoIXqKPV1UsKXa7PY2N0kc4Jn1XCDqjz1dYdTsbJJrOAn.qIfhxleC 39Pll16QxV1YeSHGYe5RfaSg9p3KifyOUn8BNKMeBL150q2KnqnI8CPkuUVK Xao8mDtjKv9burzXWsAKsz6Icu.0V1m0OsU.ku8LDVxViFZLPi_wC6MHDkS9 Xwdze2NDZYyyvCwmcr89aLAjBWgw4aeTi1h2jbwlwm_LWn0p0cyhjTNiBR5q dARpC1cQmmaYaZ3EhXa04rzfzTD5DWqRwtQh5KEGljA9V28b3SUDPVdKSoga 2iSyPIPIQt9M_nvMnsUtcbEX7gN8- Received: from [68.249.99.13] by web181008.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:55:26 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 References: Message-ID: <1334778926.60497.YahooMailNeo@web181008.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 12:55:26 -0700 (PDT) From: John Young To: list Triumph In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] tr4 brake riddle X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Young List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net In addition to lost motion in the linkage, check the end play in the crankshaft. (thrust washers). The clutch has to push the crank forward to the limit before it can begin to realease the clutch. Easy measurement to make with a dial gauge on a magnetic holder. John Young NASS# 528 Indiana '78 Spitfire '66 Spitfire '59 TR3A (being repaired after 37 yrs ownership) From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 2:28 PM Subject: [TR] tr4 brake riddle Just started digging into a brake issue. I thought I'd share the symptom and see who comes up with the winning diagnosis. Thought it was a broken spring in the master cylinder and it's not. Brake pedal would go halfway to the floor before engaging. Rear brakes are adjusted correctly and it takes 2 clicks on the brake handle to get the car to hold firm. opened up the master cylinder and the spring is intact and I dont see any scoring on the bore. Since it's out I'll rebuild it - but I don't see that it really needs it. What else could it be? Thanks Chris ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jeyoung_2@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 18 14:10:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7C142D087C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:10:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41CD02D0777 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:01:51 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=jerryvv@roadrunner.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Hvb06jvS c=1 sm=0 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=xUD-njxgwNtKKoBB424A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=kPDWxe0Y+AmzkgVshK7X5A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.176] ([10.127.132.176:63034] helo=cdptpa-web25-z02) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 6E/23-16302-5CD1F8F4; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:02:14 +0000 Message-ID: <20120418200214.HCR14.68135.root@cdptpa-web25-z02> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:02:13 -0400 From: To: list Triumph , John Young In-Reply-To: <1334778926.60497.YahooMailNeo@web181008.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] tr4 brake riddle X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I forgot to ask. Does it pump up or is it half pedal all of the time? Half pedal standing still or while driving? A loose wheel bearing can cause pad knockback on the front disc's requiring a lot of pedal before contacting the rotor. Would happen while driving not always standing still since you'd have applied the brakes to stop your motion. JVV ---- John Young wrote: > In addition to lost motion in the linkage, check the end play in the > crankshaft. (thrust washers). > The clutch has to push the crank forward to the > limit before it can begin to realease the clutch. > Easy measurement to make > with a dial gauge on a magnetic holder. > > John Young NASS# 528 > Indiana > '78 > Spitfire > '66 Spitfire > '59 TR3A (being repaired after 37 yrs ownership) > > From: > Chris Simo > To: list Triumph > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 2:28 PM > Subject: [TR] tr4 brake riddle > > Just > started digging into a brake issue. I thought I'd share the symptom > and see > who comes up with the winning diagnosis. > > Thought it was a broken spring in > the master cylinder and it's not. > > Brake pedal would go halfway to the floor > before engaging. Rear brakes are > adjusted correctly and it takes 2 clicks on > the brake handle to get the car > to hold firm. > > opened up the master cylinder > and the spring is intact and I dont see any > scoring on the bore. Since it's > out I'll rebuild it - but I don't see that > it really needs it. > > What else > could it be? > > Thanks > > Chris ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 18 14:11:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 328F92D077B for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:11:30 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 074FA2D0777 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:11:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from JoePa2011 ([unknown] [173.67.137.49]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0M2O00HAEYQKN230@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 15:11:09 -0500 (CDT) From: "Joseph Laurito" To: "'William Brewer'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <1334776292.3628.YahooMailRC@web83308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-reply-to: <1334776292.3628.YahooMailRC@web83308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:11:05 -0400 Message-id: <004f01cd1d9f$62f2fe70$28d8fb50$@net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 X-Antivirus: avast! X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Thread-index: Ac0dlyHsIXh4k3b0RU2yO098PzNWiwAB2Uhg Content-language: en-us X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120418-1, 04/18/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [TR] Classic Car Prices X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Triumphs had a bump about 20 years ago when every old rust bucket was going on a container ship bound for Belgium. Since then, prices have been flat. This is a very good thing if you want to buy one .... not so good when you want to sell. Stand your ground now and your great-grandchildren can smile when the price passes $100K. Of course, by then that will buy you a tank of gas. Joe -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of William Brewer Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 3:12 PM To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Classic Car Prices Is it just me or have classic car prices peaked again? It seems like 2 or 3 years ago I posted something to the list about how some Morgans had become available for under $10,000 and some Lotus Elan +2 driver's were dipping under $10K again. Now looking at bringatrailer.com or the Hemmings E-newletter I am shocked and dismayed by the asking prices of barn finds and restoration projects. Italian cars seem to be especially hyped. Morris Minor Travelers (little woody wagons) seem to be heading towards $20K for good ones. Porsche 356's are ridiculous as are earlier 911's. Even old VW bugs seem to be going up. Maybe it is just inflation. I recently looked at a series 2 Jaguar E-type coupe for $10K. It had been rear-ended and poorly repaired (the whole shell was tweaked) and I passed. It seems to me that a TR3 or MGB is still the most bang for the buck out there. FWIW - miscellaneous ramblings from my desk at work. Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 18 14:26:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E75B2D0795 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:26:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D34DA2D0742 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 14:16:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ool-18b8ba55.dyn.optonline.net [24.184.186.85]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0M2O00C3JZ0H9WR0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:17:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:17:22 -0400 From: George Richardson In-reply-to: <004f01cd1d9f$62f2fe70$28d8fb50$@net> To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <4F8F2152.9030506@key-men.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120418-1, 04/18/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: <1334776292.3628.YahooMailRC@web83308.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <004f01cd1d9f$62f2fe70$28d8fb50$@net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 Subject: Re: [TR] Classic Car Prices X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net By then there won't be any gas. George Richardson Key Men - Keys for Classics www.key-men.com On 4/18/2012 4:11 PM, Joseph Laurito wrote: > Triumphs had a bump about 20 years ago when every old rust bucket was going > on a container ship bound for Belgium. Since then, prices have been flat. > This is a very good thing if you want to buy one .... not so good when you > want to sell. Stand your ground now and your great-grandchildren can smile > when the price passes $100K. Of course, by then that will buy you a tank of > gas. > > Joe > > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of William Brewer > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 3:12 PM > To: Triumphs > Subject: [TR] Classic Car Prices > > Is it just me or have classic car prices peaked again? It seems like 2 > or 3 years ago I posted something to the list about how some Morgans had > become available for under $10,000 and some Lotus Elan +2 driver's were > dipping under $10K again. Now looking at bringatrailer.com or the Hemmings > E-newletter I am shocked and dismayed by the asking prices of barn finds and > restoration projects. Italian cars seem to be especially hyped. Morris Minor > Travelers (little woody wagons) seem to be heading towards $20K for good > ones. Porsche 356's are ridiculous as are earlier 911's. Even old VW bugs > seem to be going up. > Maybe it is just inflation. > I recently looked at a series 2 Jaguar E-type coupe for $10K. It had > been rear-ended and poorly repaired (the whole shell was tweaked) and I > passed. > It seems to me that a TR3 or MGB is still the most bang for the buck > out there. > FWIW - miscellaneous ramblings from my desk at work. > > Bill in Tehachapi > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/gpr@key-men.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 18 16:18:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEDE2D08A5 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:18:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm10-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C485A2D0780 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 16:10:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.68] by nm10.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Apr 2012 22:11:06 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.93] by tm8.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Apr 2012 22:11:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Apr 2012 22:11:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 132125.68510.bm@omp1030.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 19947 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2012 22:11:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=h7OssnUFL5ZikB5IskJubr9JXCb4q6yXg+ldBrk/03USFM4sGyrYA6I+qCodIoselpPgjJ9H5jzdQlx4HzcUyfewoxIZsZjpD7CAH0/K1oHdjT+TcKHk5QuNYdBMIIyAqSIZGGVZaMXcFP5BiL1C+DLExqc2CC1qszQ+H2f/htA= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1334787065; bh=Znve54DNADj1kQc08ubIOzhTUib3Ezbg78nZo66NUdM=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=s/7uKNaOhiq8DF0Ft1izJUNhK/7Ap8POd9pNMSiWdnYgUPlZaluBS9zC5TorYSrMPiOJQyKnQ6pOYNP3F6EZo7KvSJ/pZRTDt59lURnKuLvW0WyyZBDvacqZ7OKxpKIz9xaMS0rhALEqidj3xR+SMa9lHBoH1xQc2jR/92vCayI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: wQPSwbYVM1mG.flxmTlojZDfuSiqowAkXCr_zn4ETxg8VZK n2K6UgSbeeUfEOi14oqySHt3EfHcoIAfXu9BrASNYTpYa.IiQvTgD66Fb__l xQhiVhV4vwYZzyrAiWdLQMQrnKwF6w6ZTKhLsRNzLpoRESn8i.HrVgelow9i Dbm8SSq4H1T0D5rXha4wsVziRlclhpyzMMHurV882slUjvLLy62uK.0.mJSB lTK3QcMC0qJsKEyvPOcsu8khk.vyUt0g.0mVpK1XSVXBg5aXUxU5elZic4q_ 4ueSiALQux5ves5RaJRTXqw0svWh9v.c_wlyJbMk3qwK6w_Tus94kpskPAtU YM6oy4gDFS8X0kk6eOGgK62NVkCOdZ_2uDaujyspZa5deKZqgrUIe6sZoU_Y X_Hvtfq0MQ32zTyX9iaAEMoaopJ8MbP9HclSTXfLVctXztU8cFABEqRqHAOB lNUiYU61kOG1_wNpLgAX369SoGm5cm9fqiTjeXakkM4JG_TCBMADKsfOEQuR r6eBQh2yN6GFwGztuxQogmXZLS0oOUyIcJmO5E0nqHJA3k0rSjDwc9hQ4xBO Z X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp107.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Apr 2012 15:11:04 -0700 PDT From: To: "'Chris Simo'" , "'list Triumph'" References: Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:10:59 -0500 Message-ID: <9EAA409FD17E4982982FCDC10AFDA818@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac0dkiBs7/rQf/hERpOgSh5nNuVkfgAHI9YA Subject: Re: [TR] tr4 brake riddle X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I would re-bleed the brakes just to eliminate that possibility but since you have the M/C off you will be doing this next. Check the adjustment on the rod from the M/C to be sure you are getting all the travel you need from the pedal. After you have re-built the M/C and bled the system, maybe lengthen it out just a little and see if it helps. Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS30766L "Tarbaby" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "Hello, my name is Bill and I own an old British car. Now...What are the next 11 steps?" -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Simo Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 1:29 PM To: list Triumph Subject: [TR] tr4 brake riddle Just started digging into a brake issue. I thought I'd share the symptom and see who comes up with the winning diagnosis. Thought it was a broken spring in the master cylinder and it's not. Brake pedal would go halfway to the floor before engaging. Rear brakes are adjusted correctly and it takes 2 clicks on the brake handle to get the car to hold firm. opened up the master cylinder and the spring is intact and I dont see any scoring on the bore. Since it's out I'll rebuild it - but I don't see that it really needs it. What else could it be? Thanks Chris ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 18 23:29:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60A912D08BD for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 23:29:47 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa01-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 55E332D06D2 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2012 23:29:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 23573 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2012 05:29:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (75.50.158.175) by p3plsmtpa01-01.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.81) with ESMTP; 19 Apr 2012 05:29:55 -0000 Message-ID: <58851018294B43E3ACB189A907E925B9@homemade> From: "Graybeal Design" To: Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 22:29:43 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR-6 Hardtop to give away X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have a Snugtop TR-6 top to give away. No place to store it. I'm not into shipping it so you'll have to be local enough to Pasadena to pick it up yourself. It's in decent shape. Email me at drewssix@gmail.com. Thanks, Drew ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 19 03:11:30 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65ECC2D08D3 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 03:11:30 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from davesource.com (davesource.com [66.135.55.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 393412D071C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 03:10:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dave by davesource.com with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SKnN9-00051Q-Cl for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 02:09:51 -0700 Message-Id: From: David Ljung Madison To: triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 02:05:39 -0700 X-Mailer: DaveMail [version 6.0] Subject: [TR] TR3A is finally back home X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net After over two years at various body shops waiting to get repaired (after separate, multiple hit-and-run accidents), my TR3A is finally home! The body looks beautiful, and will hopefully stay that way (though the last body/paint job seemed to make it a target, yeesh), but after sitting for so long and after being pulled apart, the poor thing has a number of issues: 1) A rod is knocking in the lower end and the engine will need overhaul replacement soon. :( 2) Front end is in bad shape (as it was before the body work) - much needs replacing. 3) Some leaks in the cooling system to fix 4) Needs a tuneup Oh well. Anyone have suggestions for engine overhaul and/or replacement? Not to mention that I need to start looking into the rack and pinion conversion. Unfortunately I have so little time for such projects right now, but at least she's home and running! Dave --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Ljung Madison http://GetDave.com/ 415.341.5555 --------- It's not whether you win or lose. It's whether you win --------- ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 19 10:57:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C4362D08FD for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 10:57:42 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D94BF2D08FA for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 10:57:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm17.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Apr 2012 16:57:51 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.197] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Apr 2012 16:57:51 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1055.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Apr 2012 16:57:51 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 79237.72599.bm@omp1055.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 24712 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Apr 2012 16:57:51 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1334854670; bh=PJeHs89aVXPHzCzZJQGp3/ijeFpnoItNoFm+gYTbnw8=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pfSAUpdLrQaG/qgMvQkhCvfcmhBQqUM/It6DFVaXVYPekGejRAhUANlXJyLLa7O/iua61tLKG5gLQ0YnOejj+FBDQQm5R3u+wSG/Fq+M2lKoKXcx1USxRJxKGyT6tKV33Fp1PDB1JotDmFlD4AXzU7JyE0pad6iUr11PXILQYC8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=G2NE12YPL0731OwCEd+bqmmASY+Puy2jZXGaA3d62Ir9g++s9MHe/6MJpiGpOdqhsizpj3FwY1PdhJXIpcdiwyN93iv+opUQN58MPaFIx1loStLrSYld0tNMbPPkmeBSizXSxGY5pJcxtmuj5nLo0Ts6Ke/q+0L/twFg6QvqMGs=; X-YMail-OSG: wOtcnEkVM1nitsZL8B0p4Or_1wdWrBO3f4PW5HrT386z0Je yM_30EWk4KO5lV7H9Pcdd7koWwjmpsxACiV7FIiShUhCqYROqSZqSzIW7Cbl WvIpZRpkYotqMjzEqjYwBlG1q7teGFTFVqHlvZAqQAtcGYXNvNGi7QQDItEj G5N5Zkn.N0F4FSS2HRxHZcE8R_ty6ou2wr3OJm5L1SfjAfVULC2SBlHkg3IV C5O4_Mueh2DIsxs15uOcpHCZgMsEaq7wTgO1Le8Cjx3IKkPmiaRbV.pnQH_4 uKHl02oaC8ULvEyuTABssbgyEZgKqUlKgRAMVYdTE4z_V77uIemW4bTZlUSL HE8rWGUKHFZzatAjaD7CrTFs66BKSh5FkzohObpuVGjhNLsn6E5mf3X6Ny7s kBFUsLynsAILwO0c6eAYnfW1do.eqrr.7zqpnSsm6470ZGUncQBoFt_gzUh1 4itkPGyTBfsaIpL79Khtl0uxvCsHxbnR5LUo0uPXpFm_UJLQpiAUb4Vsndos kcsA- Received: from [65.208.174.226] by web120205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 09:57:50 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 References: <58851018294B43E3ACB189A907E925B9@homemade> Message-ID: <1334854670.15345.YahooMailNeo@web120205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 09:57:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: <58851018294B43E3ACB189A907E925B9@homemade> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] the Mitty X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net sorry guys. i spaced out during the discussions on who will be at the mitty and what the party arangemnts are!!!! beer/girls/gambling...? is there an autox meet? Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 19 11:43:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1632D2D0907 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 11:43:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 813AB2C0C80 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 11:34:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vznit170070pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.3]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0M2Q00HL1M6FKTP0@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; 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Thu, 19 Apr 2012 11:00:16 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 References: <780580379.350160.1334856903670.JavaMail.root@vznit170070> Message-ID: <1334858416.75747.YahooMailNeo@web120205.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 11:00:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: "ptegler@verizon.net" In-Reply-To: <780580379.350160.1334856903670.JavaMail.root@vznit170070> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] the Mitty X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ill be flying southwest airlines in an easterly direction from California. ill find you all. Frank ________________________________ From: "ptegler@verizon.net" To: yellowtr3@yahoo.com Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [TR] the Mitty ..stop by the GRM booth. In the VIP parking area you'll see a couple of us (with Spitfires) there my FIS6, Mike Paserchia's all oroginal one owner '79 Spit from up above NYC (the one recently written up in Hemmings) and Paul Geithner's beautiful BRG Spit (among others) all of us are coming down from the upper mid-atlantic region Paul Tegler ptegler@verizon.net www.teglerizer.com Apr 19, 2012 12:58:08 PM, yellowtr3@yahoo.com wrote: sorry guys. >i spaced out during the discussions on who will be at the mitty and what the party arangemnts are!!!! >beer/girls/gambling...? >is there an autox meet? >Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 19 12:04:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F48A2D08D8 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 12:04:01 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97C42D0388 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 12:00:27 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=jerryvv@roadrunner.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=bLSU0YCZ c=1 sm=0 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=eN-tbzosSw1cOk_SXmAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=kPDWxe0Y+AmzkgVshK7X5A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.176] ([10.127.132.176:49631] helo=cdptpa-web25-z02) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id F5/B0-29249-3D2509F4; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:00:51 +0000 Message-ID: <20120419180051.SYYDB.74396.root@cdptpa-web25-z02> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:00:51 -0400 From: To: "triumphs: autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: [TR] LED lights X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, I'm having brain fade today. What is the name of the Company who sells the LED bulbs for our LBC's? What I need is a reference to the correct flasher to use with the LED's on my TR4A. I seem to recall seeing a recent post that there is a special flasher unit that needs to be used. Mine flash sometimes but not always and I'm thinking that it's the flasher unit. I only have LED's in the rear. Thanks, JVV ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 19 12:16:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E502D0929 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 12:16:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 560242D077B for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 12:10:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.13]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q3JIAfJe015288 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:10:41 -0400 Received: from core-msc002b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.197]) by mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 79729E000090 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:10:41 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Joe Alexander X-Mailer: Compuserve WebMail 35919-STANDARD Received: from 173.215.6.203 by Webmail-d117.sysops.aol.com (205.188.168.100) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:10:40 -0400 Message-Id: <8CEEC6EDCD84FC6-16E4-38FD6@Webmail-d117.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [173.215.6.203] Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:10:41 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1334859041; bh=y1hJtv1C/Tr6dA5T0DBF9S7+FWUnnGh2U7HuKTFkClQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=HzZ5QGxaJ7icSrRxiGnbBznlNlhrzqJrA7aBS14MxhtkvS7JCAmPYz8swU4KyuPex +JgIw3T14L8F8grjtVYwKgOlBnghRc/KSerktI1V9MPOgRGphuER+9tTGFftteze2A 262ICLwh2js+dnV2uIcmudMkEWziEeiMJQsENcuo= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:270635104:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d4f9055215266 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] FRANK FISHER at the MITTY X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Frank, Come to the TRIUMPH PADDOCK. I will have something for you. I didnt know you were coming. Joe Alexander A. R. E. 645 1st Street Jesup, Iowa 50648 319.464.4711 (cell) n197tr4@cs.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 19 13:06:24 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047002D093A for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 13:06:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9141E2D0906 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 13:05:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q3JJ66kj007206 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 15:06:06 -0400 Received: from core-moe001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.65]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 056BEE000086 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 15:06:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 15:06:05 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1334862366; bh=zCZLZXvFTjULmBPkW4lK7nYR8W5eVrzob1iRjy5GzsY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=F+3ipw0C5QhbA7yxXyl1lokjrUFIt9ji/MfBoXB18KAIqqw9EnoxSabXO6GKMFL+x m0ArZTrocr1TrQj/1IhdT+T5XsHHtO6Bto7kyVVtZ3YOWnlb4yIjBy1mqDRiH8gjt9 bDq67eoH0eDNu+QkhQ8fgA0s35jVTyv6Q0A32Y84= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:466598688:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29484f90621e3ed2 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] LED lights X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'm drawing a blank, too, but Jim Thompson is the guy's name. Just look for an electronic flasher at the parts store. Dave In a message dated 4/19/2012 1:04:19 PM Central Daylight Time, jerryvv@roadrunner.com writes: > List, > I'm having brain fade today. What is the name of the Company who sells the > LED bulbs for our LBC's? What I need is a reference to the correct flasher > to use with the LED's on my TR4A. I seem to recall seeing a recent post > that there is a special flasher unit that needs to be used. Mine flash > sometimes but not always and I'm thinking that it's the flasher unit. I only have > LED's in the rear. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 19 13:07:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886372D0931 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 13:07:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-yw0-f41.google.com (mail-yw0-f41.google.com [209.85.213.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E10402D0906 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 13:06:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by yhr47 with SMTP id 47so6411834yhr.14 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 12:07:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type:message-id:cc:x-mailer:from:subject:date:to; bh=tDdsIsxY8GoC3mt4yG+INFuWdDhoRqlNDXzCa+3wTyw=; b=E1zMcpPEutWGLdE79xAqsdSCG9zJ133N8jirno7T7Rb3+zhjJkeRdn7dYcsudkY4Zg 0qjlrMRiJ5yq+aWygzIPsmrmmRWk0EmvQjNTQqokXyqqVIWPvvtH2JAbe5ZOln6XHEAT 8U+X7s038hkHtDGgUFrPG6c19v/tNXVe8w3eUTScd3++Mx5R33eezHuOjOr3iWaujDnm An8fEklEUM0p+JjtQDLylP+V8uxZVcnJG5DImGrhKEvcXOnmrYNfySinFzjGPTrVtRy5 oaL8bj9yvShporWgcNK8uL0TIr2qtFoxn7TYbfkDAAQfyYzM9d+ymY7bwA6QJNx9ATfY NhTg== Received: by 10.101.138.33 with SMTP id q33mr1013746ann.76.1334862435919; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 12:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.0.27] (fl-67-232-62-135.dhcp.embarqhsd.net. [67.232.62.135]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a30sm7499637yhe.18.2012.04.19.12.07.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 19 Apr 2012 12:07:15 -0700 (PDT) References: <20120419180051.SYYDB.74396.root@cdptpa-web25-z02> In-Reply-To: <20120419180051.SYYDB.74396.root@cdptpa-web25-z02> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: <19D65089-12DA-48EE-B2B3-2D4CAA829075@gmail.com> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B176) From: Doug Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 15:07:14 -0400 To: "" Cc: "triumphs: autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] LED lights X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have been getting my LED lighting for my TR6 from www.litezupp.com. Look them up. They have quality light bulbs for both 1156 and 1157 based bulbs. Also, they will work with you on any issues will the appropriate electronic flasher. Doug Fraser Ocala, FL 1969 TR6 On Apr 19, 2012, at 2:00 PM, wrote: > List, > I'm having brain fade today. What is the name of the Company who sells the LED bulbs for our LBC's? What I need is a reference to the correct flasher to use with the LED's on my TR4A. I seem to recall seeing a recent post that there is a special flasher unit that needs to be used. Mine flash sometimes but not always and I'm thinking that it's the flasher unit. I only have LED's in the rear. > Thanks, > JVV > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dougfr2@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 19 13:35:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 602AF2D0921 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 13:35:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF5D2D077B for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 13:33:40 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=jerryvv@roadrunner.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Hvb06jvS c=1 sm=0 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=MorEFHjKb3HqMbdAXkwA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=kPDWxe0Y+AmzkgVshK7X5A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.176] ([10.127.132.176:51275] helo=cdptpa-web25-z02) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id E4/7A-16302-CA8609F4; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:34:04 +0000 Message-ID: <20120419193404.3XW04.74962.root@cdptpa-web25-z02> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 15:34:04 -0400 From: To: "triumphs: autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: [TR] LED Lights X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, Thanks to all who responded. I have the number and one is on it's way to me via NAPA For reference it's a EL-13L-1 JVV ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 19 14:40:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72EED2D0902 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:40:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E402D078F for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:31:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120419203147.WMAW24708.mta31.charter.net@imp09>; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 16:31:47 -0400 Received: from Desktop ([71.88.43.114]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id zwXg1i00J2TnnaX05wXnWC; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 16:31:47 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=psWcb5N98119OaOi9bjyg15qVElTHlpKZyP+LUQnThs= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=l0rTUnuL56bM4w0sCDsvjQ==:17 a=cTr6bwdcAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=SgcmMBw10NautAOwMnEA:9 a=srIkpQG1gkukGV1yTHAA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=0vUscowIxtUA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=l0rTUnuL56bM4w0sCDsvjQ==:117 From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" To: , "'triumphs: autox.team.net'" References: <20120419180051.SYYDB.74396.root@cdptpa-web25-z02> In-Reply-To: <20120419180051.SYYDB.74396.root@cdptpa-web25-z02> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 16:31:39 -0400 Message-ID: <002d01cd1e6b$6f142ea0$4d3c8be0$@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHfiWC4y9Z+fP2gCL9y3rR/KgY+i5Z9w9zA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] LED lights X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Try http://www.litezupp.com/ Alex Thomson -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jerryvv@roadrunner.com Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:01 PM To: triumphs: autox.team.net Subject: [TR] LED lights List, I'm having brain fade today. What is the name of the Company who sells the LED bulbs for our LBC's? What I need is a reference to the correct flasher to use with the LED's on my TR4A. I seem to recall seeing a recent post that there is a special flasher unit that needs to be used. Mine flash sometimes but not always and I'm thinking that it's the flasher unit. I only have LED's in the rear. Thanks, JVV ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aljlthomson@charter.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 19 17:04:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0972D093C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:04:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ED922D0903 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:03:28 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Hvb06jvS c=1 sm=0 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:17 a=gW9qi44zxCkA:10 a=RciU_ur0G14A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=g7yVZwKubJqjQxbZ7c0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=ANCc122_0jGXWJ0J:21 a=ARhxchM0qno5hC77:21 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.127.147.4 Received: from [66.127.147.4] ([66.127.147.4:19612] helo=ryoung2wna) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 38/65-16302-8D9909F4; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 23:03:52 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 16:03:51 -0700 Message-ID: <10fd01cd1e80$b057be80$11073b80$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac0dDxD3G8Xlfiu6RqCmsxSiMySFJQBcSLJw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Advance Created Noise X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Guy, Someone else reported a similar noise, which turned out to be part-throttle detonation caused by too much spark advance for the engine/fuel combination. I'd try backing off the initial timing by about 10 degrees or so (by turning the dizzy, not with the vernier), and see what effect that has. The engine won't run very well, but just keep it running with your toe and it won't hurt anything. If the noise disappears, then the issue is detonation. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 19 18:55:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E9A92D0939 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:55:58 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.111]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 410EC2D05CC for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:45:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 7078 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2012 00:45:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.249.237.51) by p3plsmtpa06-10.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.192.111) with ESMTP; 20 Apr 2012 00:45:43 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Dave" To: , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:45:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] LED lights X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net www.litezupp.com jim and chris -----Original Message----- From: Dave1massey@cs.com Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:06 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] LED lights I'm drawing a blank, too, but Jim Thompson is the guy's name. Just look for an electronic flasher at the parts store. Dave In a message dated 4/19/2012 1:04:19 PM Central Daylight Time, jerryvv@roadrunner.com writes: > List, > I'm having brain fade today. What is the name of the Company who sells the > LED bulbs for our LBC's? What I need is a reference to the correct flasher > to use with the LED's on my TR4A. I seem to recall seeing a recent post > that there is a special flasher unit that needs to be used. Mine flash > sometimes but not always and I'm thinking that it's the flasher unit. I > only have > LED's in the rear. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 19 19:48:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 890412D094B for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:48:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 915DF2D069F for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:48:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.71]) by qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 014k1j0061Y3wxoA91oeoA; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 01:48:38 +0000 Received: from [10.244.132.235] ([174.255.226.136]) by omta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 01oM1j0072xCJKS8b1oQrr; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 01:48:36 +0000 To: "Dave" ,Dave1massey@cs.com,triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 20:48:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?LED_lights?= X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Message-Id: <20120420014837.890412D094B@autox.team.net> You may want to ask about the little flasher harness, too. It makes the inside indicator work properly. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Dave" To: , Subject: [TR] LED lights Date: Thu, Apr 19, 2012 19:45 www.litezupp.com jim and chris -----Original Message----- From: Dave1massey@cs.com Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:06 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] LED lights I'm drawing a blank, too, but Jim Thompson is the guy's name. Just look for an electronic flasher at the parts store. Dave In a message dated 4/19/2012 1:04:19 PM Central Daylight Time, jerryvv@roadrunner.com writes: > List, > I'm having brain fade today. What is the name of the Company who sells the > LED bulbs for our LBC's? What I need is a reference to the correct flasher > to use with the LED's on my TR4A. I seem to recall seeing a recent post > that there is a special flasher unit that needs to be used. Mine flash > sometimes but not always and I'm thinking that it's the flasher unit. I > only have > LED's in the rear. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spook01@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 19 20:03:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F291F2D0969 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 20:03:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f173.google.com (mail-wi0-f173.google.com [209.85.212.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D71B2D094B for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:56:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wibhq7 with SMTP id hq7so161898wib.2 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:56:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=cedfOCwNLvzBB97OtCduQAlHtINAkcOUnHIBXC+Xfls=; b=O0fO3KqgUo9ojloucWvHbnXdZHm5XDsRI1/3tLtSTmrRC4oGRQnJqwhrWrsZj54Qyx qSTypbj3SqhJncG7BO7M+gtt/2PeAnh7jG4NjsjyCFkJYU6/DNSVTfB0Te8oelnFDUFN fFs9QGY5Jw1U1r3xZJc1gbF89vmJpAMmnPNvsu8v7gdPLV9oGm8wjGwBrCsB123tt7U7 gkyL0l9Zy+R4F8dTQzyghO0VlBPgqaM5wEKeT+hHJw3pwKUxxGOgFi/eclnuQ62IE9jl yXNTD3EGD5um/FTKT1sXx8X76WvD+GkbwW1QumSFL3NghQiXebTcT8i1loZLjtrlOqJ4 ENrw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.82.132 with SMTP id i4mr3497362wiy.12.1334887007872; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.138.224 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:56:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.138.224 with HTTP; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 18:56:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9EAA409FD17E4982982FCDC10AFDA818@bboffice> References: <9EAA409FD17E4982982FCDC10AFDA818@bboffice> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 21:56:47 -0400 Message-ID: From: Chris Simo To: wbeech@flash.net X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] tr4 brake riddle X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Update. Cleaned the master cylinder. It was, for lack of a better term, gunky. Gelatinous gobs in the works. Nothing rigid but gunk. Front brake pads are in need of replacement. One is quite close to being gone. It looks like time for a wholesale brake refurb. Been wanting to put those Morgan rear brake cylinders in anyway ... On Apr 18, 2012 6:11 PM, wrote: > I would re-bleed the brakes just to eliminate that possibility but since > you > have the M/C off you will be doing this next. > > Check the adjustment on the rod from the M/C to be sure you are getting all > the travel you need from the pedal. After you have re-built the M/C and > bled the system, maybe lengthen it out just a little and see if it helps. > > Bill > > Bill Beecher > '58 TR3A TS30766L "Tarbaby" > www.triumphowners.com/1566 > '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" > "Hello, my name is Bill and I own an old British car. Now...What are the > next 11 steps?" > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Simo > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 1:29 PM > To: list Triumph > Subject: [TR] tr4 brake riddle > > Just started digging into a brake issue. I thought I'd share the symptom > and > see who comes up with the winning diagnosis. > > Thought it was a broken spring in the master cylinder and it's not. > > Brake pedal would go halfway to the floor before engaging. Rear brakes are > adjusted correctly and it takes 2 clicks on the brake handle to get the car > to hold firm. > > opened up the master cylinder and the spring is intact and I dont see any > scoring on the bore. Since it's out I'll rebuild it - but I don't see that > it really needs it. > > What else could it be? > > Thanks > > Chris > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 19 20:19:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77ACF2D0939 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 20:19:51 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.24]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 901D62D07C7 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 20:15:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.76]) by qmta01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 01yx1j0021ei1Bg512FtCj; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 02:15:53 +0000 Received: from [10.244.130.251] ([174.253.82.13]) by omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 02F41j00f0HEvBi3k2FiEd; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 02:15:51 +0000 To: "=?utf-8?B?Q2hyaXMgU2ltbw==?=" ,wbeech@flash.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 21:15:48 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: =?utf-8?B?bGlzdCBUcml1bXBo?= Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?tr4_brake_riddle?= X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Message-Id: <20120420021951.77ACF2D0939@autox.team.net> That gunk is your rubber seals! Time for a rebuild! Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Chris Simo" To: Cc: "list Triumph" Subject: [TR] tr4 brake riddle Date: Thu, Apr 19, 2012 20:56 Update. Cleaned the master cylinder. It was, for lack of a better term, gunky. Gelatinous gobs in the works. Nothing rigid but gunk. Front brake pads are in need of replacement. One is quite close to being gone. It looks like time for a wholesale brake refurb. Been wanting to put those Morgan rear brake cylinders in anyway ... On Apr 18, 2012 6:11 PM, wrote: > I would re-bleed the brakes just to eliminate that possibility but since > you > have the M/C off you will be doing this next. > > Check the adjustment on the rod from the M/C to be sure you are getting all > the travel you need from the pedal. After you have re-built the M/C and > bled the system, maybe lengthen it out just a little and see if it helps. > > Bill > > Bill Beecher > '58 TR3A TS30766L "Tarbaby" > www.triumphowners.com/1566 > '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" > "Hello, my name is Bill and I own an old British car. Now...What are the > next 11 steps?" > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Simo > Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 1:29 PM > To: list Triumph > Subject: [TR] tr4 brake riddle > > Just started digging into a brake issue. I thought I'd share the symptom > and > see who comes up with the winning diagnosis. > > Thought it was a broken spring in the master cylinder and it's not. > > Brake pedal would go halfway to the floor before engaging. Rear brakes are > adjusted correctly and it takes 2 clicks on the brake handle to get the car > to hold firm. > > opened up the master cylinder and the spring is intact and I dont see any > scoring on the bore. Since it's out I'll rebuild it - but I don't see that > it really needs it. > > What else could it be? > > Thanks > > Chris > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spook01@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 19 20:36:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8B82D09C2 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 20:36:38 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm24.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm24.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.221]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id F3CC02D02C9 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 20:36:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.52.193] by nm24.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 02:36:44 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.152] by tm6.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 02:36:44 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1035.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 02:36:44 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 495966.74501.bm@omp1035.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 55791 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Apr 2012 02:36:44 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1334889404; bh=S8p1J9djm2yYFEJyPvWPdzjSfQ55oV1gTGyB0+MLBJ0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VwO3Te38VmAqmuTxklJX/m+jQmJGTBoF5EMtven6S834TrIw5LstOpTwCfTNByBvPBys928B+zdZNoKwDaXiuDt5GxjPSptFFBn0xDvl9GkoFWQp5fnKsDXdMqPVvtfu5JGSOBlFcUhsGo4ZNEn6h3a/hEUnx5G4h4pU/kue6b8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=XHJfm7gCVr77yrrVLQzlbk96aIJz5Tvf0kuvNkMgPzVLai4R92TXogGobCREdDNTcBg6WPgRw891UzA/06yHmAPC4tgOcf8xm6f1rzvxnexQkdXPbENDTgAcwdVeWAI87DBCQjr2IbhzJicRbDPgmollohi2vwX93v2EY1AHozk=; X-YMail-OSG: fcNf4uQVM1nnxcrDJyydhZ35z8_S5C..QHkUUspxwPWtwjN SF4KL3YGGl8u55pdbmBRhRc7HVrc.1_GGx2goglAjPE6RDrBT.qPQV3.KT9D rY4E2zbvj6HA6IGwACM4qNrf7PHn0TAaNq7q4FO3Ffr.JHXInkeBJ9i8x3n4 mY6wqueB_3wCoQA02nR5R9OUgAhnkFuLB4Yy7Jz2RsT787AgoC5aP9YP3a69 RL0sOzPjXgSv8qrc8IUsjX8tf.K1DiBdeB1zSesPsYUN_4hNCezhBrJ6a25B Qe2wc8y9C.BcTP33IxC4scO5CegwNfhN3fAbUhQuo1gljBBT_7dtU.Jhqn4G ioOyyG_uKLkVvPDDOqpptwnBhgMLodtu_bdTAsavkEgBCUa9P293R02H8Bm2 sRHtFg25SLHqFQmN_YwRNOh0Dc6_U_semHSQJ0k5afAMMBwHjjgw- Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web65508.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:36:44 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 Message-ID: <1334889404.58056.YahooMailNeo@web65508.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 19:36:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] more harness X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Nafziger List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'm slowly working my way through installing wiring harness (tr-3) and have received great help already from the list. I have one concern left, and that's when I finish and want to connect the battery and test the system. I'm afraid one little mistake I might have made could burn up the new harness or even a small part of it. Is there a safe way to test portions of it first or does one just turn on the power and wait for possible smoke? I've basically been very careful about transferring the new wires to the old guages/switches on the dash section and also using the old harness as a model to connect the new wires to control box/fuse box and other parts; along with diligent reviewing of a wiring diagram every step of the way. I'm fairly confident things will work out ok at the time of switching on but just wondered if others who've "been there" have any advice on using the electrical system for the first time. thanks gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 19 21:16:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72AE02D081C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 21:16:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B1552D06FD for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 21:10:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.68] by nm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 03:11:10 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.81] by tm8.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 03:10:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1018.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 03:10:09 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 967901.17747.bm@omp1018.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 92557 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2012 03:10:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=HYrFVWsVT2haL20u0hjaRscMw240j/EHRb/fAsR+xXaUhfuFh7aCbZ3fVMUGgyUoOfZG0C9LtUt/EgNNk3LoIW/l/rL6EnKs/PTGY+Ilg54mXdKON0pmpGZoKoh/McRcqSkS9uK+EIhtQH7uRVxLqHKf6LSNiwf7zg73YhdpOqk= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1334891409; bh=6Cwn1J8e15XP+xsTL56QZ0Wye8onrwJ8E4HrU4VkYyM=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=Ovjt0jRxLM7CRvG6GZMRsfy+ABrCbIvu+ttWPIKpEPsSC9NDuh7phsmwLLIloYaYfLn/uGYchDLJgMydaPQ7b5skxCrFywKcJ5FCHDbDh4u3urSEEQJVfH5bGuBZ2tDxZrRukuN4NJEPEEqAD7BvIVpnolxpGQb/EZuYpzrSRXE= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: k11Zpt8VM1myoLMdlAeVzN9g0si.x2bmplW_71z9Gugt3ko VVfriJjToQJylbDTr2lx9C7DyrHP4MNJ425YPX59M4fCWYw.XHQZe.JqBiW1 z2rOZTdgnjA91o06j2ST6.mm6cxcyvlpVmyJzaPrRqLS_whOibzLf2WNJ.ta mxqpmrDJ7nedSfb9.H5PmI9C6aP7kyEP0NH5jPHci3Jy6LCYRBFWXCh94YsC PGr4.SPHbEm3NP2_ONCos7NuLklPTT4nIKK3vDxVZ2fNPPW490frFeUSPhDY plU_y6YunZsBRPT3RK2Z.87rRjMPVeXWAxIY9YG67kHwVLXArhsJTKpAtkbm FbSQXehcqbI04qpHUL3rQailoyt1Hv6EAsD568rz0tsxM1QGq3jMB6JG4xs9 c8BtwpY.zB5gCzAakc3yRZAJ8tPgzp16T77aFnipTPGZ.ceKxY4qKDbxOiFL fwjdVRkCOhFkisObAe18zNybwltitRRYP5ysFsuclSHDXl1CxI384bdfoOzq EKTTffJNvlJ9I_OroZ9kJvhWDISet21X2P2G2Rq_pqSih98kxjTuCxHP8oju 0 X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp106.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Apr 2012 20:10:09 -0700 PDT From: To: "'Gary Nafziger'" , References: <1334889404.58056.YahooMailNeo@web65508.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 22:10:03 -0500 Message-ID: <46A2495EBE5F4F3BB3BB4242D8926939@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac0enoPjUEQRpz8NTQOmDdxkqaOTAQAA/y+w In-Reply-To: <1334889404.58056.YahooMailNeo@web65508.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] more harness X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Instead of the battery, hook up a 2amp charger to the system. This will give you enough power to check the smaller lights and other items. Of course you can't start it and the horns will just burp. Another safety valve is to put in low amperage fuses 5 or 10 amp to start with while you check things out. Again, you might blow a fuse with your headlights, but it should be let everything else run and still blow before you cook the wires. Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS30766L "Tarbaby" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "Hello, my name is Bill and I own an old British car. Now...What are the next 11 steps?" -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Nafziger Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 9:37 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] more harness I'm slowly working my way through installing wiring harness (tr-3) and have received great help already from the list. I have one concern left, and that's when I finish and want to connect the battery and test the system. I'm afraid one little mistake I might have made could burn up the new harness or even a small part of it. Is there a safe way to test portions of it first or does one just turn on the power and wait for possible smoke? I've basically been very careful about transferring the new wires to the old guages/switches on the dash section and also using the old harness as a model to connect the new wires to control box/fuse box and other parts; along with diligent reviewing of a wiring diagram every step of the way. I'm fairly confident things will work out ok at the time of switching on but just wondered if others who've "been there" have any advice on using the electrical system for the first time. thanks gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 05:45:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CFF72D0978 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 05:45:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 909242D0968 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 05:39:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.73]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q3KBdYHF006280 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 07:39:34 -0400 Received: from core-moe001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.65]) by mtaomg-mb02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4C952E000088 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 07:39:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <692e.5694ea40.3cc2a4f6@cs.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 07:39:34 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1334921974; bh=uIxVBQRtZLsTL4cMXrJ/FPGujd4ZMsuA6C6bP8tFXl8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pc+c6GnZYrEpxzeVvi6ylHuUk/OaNXVpR5XdkDBfUWhuh6+ridfFXt38lUnC+WM69 E66ohqY/3PY3n9YrMrT7KdN05nzbkO+qsZIYCFUWnRGL057aLayzt5D9l7snpfaOPr V35Fw/n35wLq+58eU6r9iVHTLpilGyunjcXHGYRM= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:470680960:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29494f914af67cf6 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] LED lights X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 4/19/2012 7:45:45 PM Central Daylight Time, dave@ranteer.com writes: > www.litezupp.com > That's it. I've bought mine from Jim directly while at a gathering such as VTR. I guess they picked a catchy name so that we would all remember it. Didn't work on me but it worked for the rest of you guys. Guess I'll go back to my rockin' chair. Dave ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 06:04:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFA42D0986 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 06:04:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (imr-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.39]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 241012D0902 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 06:03:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-ma01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q3KC41tM021807 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 08:04:01 -0400 Received: from core-moe001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.65]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7FAA6E000087 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 08:04:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <7076.5bca340.3cc2aab1@cs.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 08:04:01 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1334923441; bh=Eh/bC8FJxFOMc3AhJ9ok36NwQir2SEnfQgAQgAq8fHE=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KNSaQuqHLAsn1Oz5e7fCbj01gMq6kIjjKnBRvn/c3ilOE81tTi/1Saj2JEoxW6AdM M6UlciQZxM1ygwLoIJct3o99/6rHd+21iOXN7sdiIWvTpoyUJ4Lce7IPey5DIhczMf mTpp0WbLxl1BqxTxAqW8WDopTZZi3sj/8n0XK7oM= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:453224384:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c74f9150b10a66 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] more harness X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The trick I used when I checked out the TR3 is I connected each circuit to the battery via a spare headlamp. If it is a short to ground the bulb will shine with full brightness. If it is working properly the bulb will glow a little, a fair amount or not at all depending on the load. Leave out the fuses and connect the lead from the bulb to the load side of the fuse block and start testing away. If you get a full bright headlamp start disconnecting lights or other loads. But you can check your brake and tail lights just fine. Also the other lights on the car. For best results check one circuit at a time. If you have a volt meter (which I highly recommend if you are going to work on any electrical system) you can check the voltage on the circuit. If it is anything greater than a volt you won't burn up the harness when connect it up with the fuse. Wiper motor: when I checked my wiper motor it moved briefly and stalled and the headlamp went bright. But the fact that the motor moved at all told me it was OK but a voltmeter reading would have confirmed this if there was any doubt. Dave In a message dated 4/19/2012 9:36:52 PM Central Daylight Time, nafzigerg@yahoo.com writes: > I'm slowly working my way through installing wiring harness (tr-3) and > have > received great help already from the list. I have one concern left, and > that's when I finish and want to connect the battery and test the system. > I'm > afraid one little mistake I might have made could burn up the new harness > or > even a small part of it. > Is there a safe way to test portions of it first or > does one just turn on the power and wait for possible smoke? I've > basically > been very careful about transferring the new wires to the old > guages/switches > on the dash section and also using the old harness as a model to connect > the > new wires to control box/fuse box and other parts; along with diligent > reviewing of a wiring diagram every step of the way. > I'm fairly confident > things will work out ok at the time of switching on but just wondered if > others who've "been there" have any advice on using the electrical system > for > the first time. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 09:50:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4552D097E for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:50:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp3.execulink.net (smtp3.execulink.net [69.63.44.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A48A22D0828 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:49:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-6524.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([67.158.73.125] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SLG5T-0007aI-Ow for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:49:32 -0400 Message-ID: <4F91858C.9080400@execulink.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:49:32 -0400 From: Angelo Graham User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR2/3 SU Carbs X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello List: Need some of the collective wisdom of the List on this one. I have H4 SU carbs on my '2 and struggling with the common problems: leaking from the jet bodies, float levels, excessive richness, stiff choke actuation, etc. I installed kits in the winter & checked the throttle shafts and they were surprisingly a good fit. I am contemplating having the carbs 'professionally' rebuilt to correct some of these issues and forking out the 4-5 hundred for the job. But before I commit, I am wondering if these early SU's can really be 'fixed'. Given the design of the exposed jet SU can they really be made to be leak free? Even after a professional rebuild, will these carbs be good running and relatively leak free? Just getting tired of the constant smell of gas in the shop and struggling with the carbs. Thanks for any insight and advice on this one. Angelo Graham ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 10:07:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09C8B2D0973 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:07:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 493932D07A5 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:04:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vznit170132pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.3]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0M2S00IS0CNET271@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:04:26 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 192.168.1.1 ([192.168.1.1]) by vznit170132 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:04:26 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:04:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Carl TR To: spook01@comcast.net, dave@ranteer.com, Dave1massey@cs.com, triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <716962.1847845.1334937866069.JavaMail.root@vznit170132> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Verizon Webmail X-Originating-IP: [192.168.1.1] Subject: Re: [TR] LED lights X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Lights and Flasher will work properly if you replace only the rear lamps. The load from the regular bulbs at the front (which to me were not as necessary) is sufficient to activate the flasher/indicator. Highly recommend them. I still haven't completely installed my 3rd brake lamp but when I do I'll post some photos similar to the backup light before and after Litezupps.... http://s1001.photobucket.com/albums/af136/cfmtr3a/Information%20Items/?action =view$t=LiteZuppBeforeAfter.jpg Carl On 04/19/12, spook01@comcast.net wrote: You may want to ask about the little flasher harness, too. It makes the inside indicator work properly. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Dave" To: , Subject: [TR] LED lights Date: Thu, Apr 19, 2012 19:45 www.litezupp.com jim and chris -----Original Message----- From: Dave1massey@cs.com Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:06 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] LED lights I'm drawing a blank, too, but Jim Thompson is the guy's name. Just look for an electronic flasher at the parts store. Dave In a message dated 4/19/2012 1:04:19 PM Central Daylight Time, jerryvv@roadrunner.com writes: > List, > I'm having brain fade today. What is the name of the Company who sells the > LED bulbs for our LBC's? What I need is a reference to the correct flasher > to use with the LED's on my TR4A. I seem to recall seeing a recent post > that there is a special flasher unit that needs to be used. Mine flash > sometimes but not always and I'm thinking that it's the flasher unit. I > only have > LED's in the rear. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spook01@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 10:23:54 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD5852D0929 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:23:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nk11p99mm-asmtpout003.mac.com (nk11p03mm-asmtp993.mac.com [17.158.233.224]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C582D08B1 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:23:22 -0600 (MDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [10.1.10.11] (c-67-172-230-246.hsd1.ut.comcast.net [67.172.230.246]) by nk11p03mm-asmtp993.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Exchange Server 7u4-22.01 64bit (built Apr 21 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0M2S00LRSDJCC210@nk11p03mm-asmtp993.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:23:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.6.7580,1.0.260,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-04-20_05:2012-04-20,2012-04-20,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=1 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=1 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1204200160 From: Robert Hendricks Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:23:36 -0600 Message-id: <0E88370B-C0BC-495F-984D-1DAA098FE8CA@me.com> To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) Subject: [TR] need door handle X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello all. Im new to this mailing list. I hope this is an appropriate request. After a two year frame off complete restoration - the tub is at the paint shop and I discover that a piece in one of my doors is broken. I am looking for the left exterior door handle with mechanism for a 1972 Triumph Spitfire. A little plastic gizmo inside the mechanism is broken. I am hoping to purchase a used handle so I can retrieve the broken piece from it. Thanks Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 10:38:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7879D2D0975 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:38:51 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4367E2D08B1 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:32:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.90]) by qmta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0GJY1j0041wfjNsA9GZB6A; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:33:11 +0000 Received: from [10.244.130.251] ([174.253.82.13]) by omta23.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0GYs1j00Z0HEvBi8jGYwVi; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:33:08 +0000 To: "=?utf-8?B?Q2FybCBUUg==?=" , dave@ranteer.com, Dave1massey@cs.com, triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:33:08 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?LED_lights?= X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Message-Id: <20120420163851.7879D2D0975@autox.team.net> The inner indicator light did not work for me on the TR4 in spite of my replacing ONLY the rear lamps with LED's (and replacing the Lucas flasher with the recommend electronic flasher). Litezupp recommended their wiring harness addition. Once installed, the problem was solved; so you may need the harness even if you retain the old front incandescent bulbs. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Carl TR" To: , , , Subject: [TR] LED lights Date: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 11:04 Lights and Flasher will work properly if you replace only the rear lamps. The load from the regular bulbs at the front (which to me were not as necessary) is sufficient to activate the flasher/indicator. Highly recommend them. I still haven't completely installed my 3rd brake lamp but when I do I'll post some photos similar to the backup light before and after Litezupps.... http://s1001.photobucket.com/albums/af136/cfmtr3a/Information%20Items/?action=viewo?=t=LiteZuppBeforeAfter.jpg Carl On 04/19/12, spook01@comcast.net wrote: You may want to ask about the little flasher harness, too. It makes the inside indicator work properly. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Dave" To: , Subject: [TR] LED lights Date: Thu, Apr 19, 2012 19:45 www.litezupp.com jim and chris -----Original Message----- From: Dave1massey@cs.com Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:06 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] LED lights I'm drawing a blank, too, but Jim Thompson is the guy's name. Just look for an electronic flasher at the parts store. Dave In a message dated 4/19/2012 1:04:19 PM Central Daylight Time, jerryvv@roadrunner.com writes: > List, > I'm having brain fade today. What is the name of the Company who sells the > LED bulbs for our LBC's? What I need is a reference to the correct flasher > to use with the LED's on my TR4A. I seem to recall seeing a recent post > that there is a special flasher unit that needs to be used. Mine flash > sometimes but not always and I'm thinking that it's the flasher unit. I > only have > LED's in the rear. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spook01@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 10:39:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964602D0988 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:39:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 679602D0475 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 10:34:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.200] by nm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 16:35:22 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.51] by tm11.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 16:35:22 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp104.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 16:35:22 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1334939722; bh=UxDJIuQnjSDvv1EuEcoSr4ZmEkeukyxZ9DIIhHgtRvI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=j05Obqc39qQQwhI+gxRyYXXClfFOX++DvdiLLGEF5Wo3oBJbb7su74Q3C/XKS5vsqEhhzqdkEOKR6tC2GFuYLHil/NHPCjewVZGhLcE+Dodr9cOD/kGiiGX4XDtXG7WV9UVAUtQsPXlpPJ7s65Bm31xNY3p181u5GNVHtsZiuLQ= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 150063.33024.bm@smtp104.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: vfqhG_AVM1kZWs0_WFe6OpTiRHkjmPOknSXNdx4zkxZnbnL _c4otaoy0SB.peTaIolhmcYEme_57cb_mG4D77UqStjK82Z3dmy3msadmReQ t9Jg3kP0aOgsEouLVxFqo2B3cbepoLIjwUvRyhmQV29LrS35TEQCP8gVvV3_ 2a_tIvS32_NM56f0f07ONYxAqg9LCE20yCfo4IuXPH7XhJcLLFpc3kKd71F_ MJBRM59akZ0UN7_IkcA7XGc64ZSiWkGIGFJm3KHvqRie4YcAN2KG59geKhXt ERVqomT8Rr7sokLhooFgZ0.ycoNYZIN2Sj98l1FQqBOwSjw8wyynX5.AvAxL oWNgI8Yl0FRxS4spdBiQQmbDsVQpE2a4ocnXB7aYmmlfa7OeaIWscMn1iuyu .xPRisVNNM1IiwDkUZQx3dQF0d5yRNfPy0v4Bd3.yQS0v.EwXTdBhX6YOCkr 6gmezmu_3Fc.UJnqrWcv9Puv0VzeAx6vpIHGiSFnLsIxkbwh3wVmqc1UiUri 3 X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp104.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 2012 09:35:21 -0700 PDT From: To: "'Robert Hendricks'" , References: <0E88370B-C0BC-495F-984D-1DAA098FE8CA@me.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:35:19 -0500 Message-ID: <52D85F5806044415B0A4781A167CFAB0@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <0E88370B-C0BC-495F-984D-1DAA098FE8CA@me.com> Thread-Index: Ac0fEhET2GMUcJVjTduX3iOjLs10zQAAPifg Subject: Re: [TR] need door handle X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Bob, Welcome to the list, odd parts, advice and sources are what we do best. Wish I could help but I don't have Spit. All the best, Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Robert Hendricks Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 11:24 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] need door handle Hello all. Im new to this mailing list. I hope this is an appropriate request. After a two year frame off complete restoration - the tub is at the paint shop and I discover that a piece in one of my doors is broken. I am looking for the left exterior door handle with mechanism for a 1972 Triumph Spitfire. A little plastic gizmo inside the mechanism is broken. I am hoping to purchase a used handle so I can retrieve the broken piece from it. Thanks Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 11:44:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7BC12D096D for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:44:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.enterhost.com (mail05.enterhost.com [208.65.128.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCBC52D08C6 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:34:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 99-187-242-14.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.187.242.14] by mail05.enterhost.com with SMTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:34:57 -0500 From: "G.D. Huggins" Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:34:52 -0500 Message-Id: <3916E272-D733-48A4-B605-881D6D3A97D3@genfiniti.com> To: triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [TR] TR4A - Is this noise detonation (link provided to listen) X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net All, In order to help you help me, I made a recording of the engine with a quality microphone and posted to YouTube (link below). In addition to the normal tappet and valve noise we should hear in the engine, I have this mysterious "rattle" that seems to correspond to the advance kicking on or off. Randall suggested it might be detonation, but I have no idea what the hell detonation sounds like. Could you please watch/listen to the video and discern what the noise is? (Detonation, other) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf2qpLHv9IM The following comments are related to the video: After start-up, the rattle is spotty when idling When I move to fast idle, it greatly diminishes When I give it real throttle, the rattle is super loud and present When I come down it diminishes, but suddenly spikes (second 32), which I believe is when the advance cuts out Cheers, Guy D. Huggins 1965 Triumph TR4A CTC 63569LO Online project diary at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 12:00:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 397312D08A8 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:00:42 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.222]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B61A52D05FD for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 11:55:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.57] by nm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 17:55:40 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.121] by tm10.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 17:55:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 17:55:40 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 121543.65921.bm@omp1030.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 81735 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Apr 2012 17:55:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1334944539; bh=naCtpkvKXwHZDYFz1Vw+qVu7MmvUgkXOtncliO6Ggc0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LnWeTxYXfEaxK90DlHoctEDfhvlodoDq/gOgB8KijtryKA0gUA69RoQtd1NGdmzQMwaOKJ2IYo7/DW/fnZPFkvfHi1zWmgQAkjU4SR6szFCmYZn/Es63A3A1GAw6H+x1anEB4cV2HvsDF+IwRHcFFAitJfcDTXRadPQQ4EgAUNg= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FdaTsDZLSykT9R4g1EJZ89um5jsBkFlTAkMVeOAOoDHVmtB0ypekQylSDr/YbIK7p2kwTPiTeeTQfTfJCSEWNeFT8K5GzbxQng6GzNtcixXaPlEGmwZ5DkZff8l4b0iwwgPprnB9s2ectcDpvJ3zRYy6k5WYMA9Manz5IfQRMxk=; X-YMail-OSG: ejy7cEYVM1l7fdyHQFUi42lUfcMq1pPSryCH5YVwKWTNQe2 tg5G2ng5M150U.Vc3hVUec3kiwJwmvOvopOctf6T1jw3ra0r2F6RHIG4oR0i t5338zBYJc2NLbSboQR0f2gjY4VrF4nLIrQinc8xF2Ta_DGlfD80STxZ.gZW ig8rr6_8H0vLI78QuFDTWMdiPQlGtAUnwNnH0Hr9Q4J3p_AObcC4hnpDZfp3 rHzhwtLMzgakuLXAIay6XL5BfCEp3C7seBOsCg4r91RJVY9sI9Z2oqtPViv3 2nWmuLHe653L_ihd1_chbf5GBtI9OgixtOoVpLnjedmYsvlXbeqBRseuFAt9 lXbhkJ9zhotM_Djl0aEn5PecGJGSzdKZORRAIZxDhzzhKf4Ay Received: from [212.139.248.150] by web29402.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 18:55:39 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 Message-ID: <1334944539.63229.YahooMailNeo@web29402.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 18:55:39 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: Triumph List MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Standard-Triumph faults on TV X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, Everyone There's a new TV programme hitting the UK airwaves called "Celebrity Antiques Roadshow." I've watched a few of them, because the 'celebrities' are driving around different parts of the UK in a variety of old Brit hardware. So far, we've had a Mk 1 2 litre Vitesse (seems to be in almost every show) a Healey 3000, MG Midget (with Federal bumpers and a Spitfire lump (so it's sadly not an MG) a Jowett Javelin convertible and another I forget. The celebrities last night were Honor Blackman and Brit Eklund. Honor is 'wearing' very well for her 70+ years and Brit must surely have had a few nips and tucks in the right places? Perhaps typically, much of the series shooting was done last year and they seemingly had EVERY day raining. I think the Vitesse drivers have been warned about the excellent wet weather handling of the Mk 1 2 litre as it wasn't swung sprung or rotoflexed - and it's being driven far two slowly on the twisting wet roads. Maybe the car is still on its original cross-plies? The rev counter needs an overhaul as well. Surging needle between 2000 and 5000. Anyway, last night was laugh time when Brit Eklund got stuck in the passenger seat and couldn't get out. Lots of useless pushing and pulling on the defective door handle by the embarrassed driver and eventually she had to emerge in fairly unladylike fashion (in a trouser suit) by climbing over the lowered soft top. I'm amazed she didn't fall out earlier because the door striker plate had almost fallen off! You just can't beat indifferent British workmanship and design lasting in perpetuity for enjoyment 45 years down the track. Jonmac ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 13:07:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30EDC2D0775 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:07:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE642D0519 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:07:05 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Hvb06jvS c=1 sm=0 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:17 a=gW9qi44zxCkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=pWNHgNqSm8JoQRA93FcA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.127.147.4 Received: from [66.127.147.4] ([66.127.147.4:36247] helo=ryoung2wna) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 9C/46-16302-2F3B19F4; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 19:07:31 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: <716962.1847845.1334937866069.JavaMail.root@vznit170132> In-Reply-To: <716962.1847845.1334937866069.JavaMail.root@vznit170132> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:07:29 -0700 Message-ID: <000401cd1f28$d58aaac0$80a00040$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac0fD7SvM/yXEebYTj6vi2eZKKzI4wAGPwrA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] LED lights X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Lights and Flasher will work properly if you replace only the rear > lamps. > The load from the regular bulbs at the front (which to me were not as > necessary) is sufficient to activate the flasher/indicator. True for some flashers, not all of them. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 13:22:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4C412D06DC for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:22:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com (mail-bk0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5095B2D061D for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:17:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by bkwq16 with SMTP id q16so10515847bkw.14 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:17:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=KGfH4i3UZnUAwNaJDDsOpmvYFTyNJQaDOVBVKHakfpk=; b=PgofjCpGCks72ZNWih+e2SiAlMllgmVk7WO9OU8zatNMXnVlTzig428B4H3PKkEVSN Fv+x3OPDC3FvjhHH66BlxhQ73Nzr+b0ccQuBoakhSQJ/b12L2v+DeoB2KJQhEaQ4Bc1O 9WcXkWOJgZYTPXmYMldowcCx31Z2NbbZ8n7UPI5WFStb3GpOeGBqjwUBA7KxnEZFwh/j x6CJNQngzPsCrD8k9VjlNQh6TuRNDjPLXHJb8nvQ1VOaqxXqJPkBA2QEKhNTBwD5U51Y 1l7n/CoI/Vpgxa/Ow2c3r1N7KRreO4U8Xg7k9iE+YxTeE6yf/lqQyzeNkyucjZlGY+57 BitQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.205.131.3 with SMTP id ho3mr2276255bkc.48.1334949454541; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.204.40.67 with HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:17:34 -0700 Message-ID: From: Randall Zempel To: triumphs@autox.team.net, guy@genfiniti.com X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Is this noise detonation X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Guy, That doesn't sound like detonation to me...it sounds more like timing chain slap, or maybe a shot waterpump or even loose fan blades. I understand you've replaced the timing chain and tensioner, so I dunno. That's just what it sounds like to me. Randall Z Message: 8 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:34:52 -0500 From: "G.D. Huggins" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR4A - Is this noise detonation (link provided to listen) Message-ID: <3916E272-D733-48A4-B605-881D6D3A97D3@genfiniti.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii All, In order to help you help me, I made a recording of the engine with a quality microphone and posted to YouTube (link below). In addition to the normal tappet and valve noise we should hear in the engine, I have this mysterious "rattle" that seems to correspond to the advance kicking on or off. Randall suggested it might be detonation, but I have no idea what the hell detonation sounds like. Could you please watch/listen to the video and discern what the noise is? (Detonation, other) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf2qpLHv9IM The following comments are related to the video: After start-up, the rattle is spotty when idling When I move to fast idle, it greatly diminishes When I give it real throttle, the rattle is super loud and present When I come down it diminishes, but suddenly spikes (second 32), which I believe is when the advance cuts out Cheers, Guy D. Huggins 1965 Triumph TR4A CTC 63569LO ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 13:38:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 296492D0711 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:38:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2902D070D for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:27:08 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=ReYS+iRv c=1 sm=0 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:17 a=gW9qi44zxCkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=xTapi0Vi-odB-m7kHBkA:9 a=LRa4Fx8pN_LkZGyo6o4A:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.127.147.4 Received: from [66.127.147.4] ([66.127.147.4:37549] helo=ryoung2wna) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 5E/23-07741-4A8B19F4; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 19:27:33 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: <4F91858C.9080400@execulink.com> In-Reply-To: <4F91858C.9080400@execulink.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:27:31 -0700 Message-ID: <000801cd1f2b$a25ab200$e7101600$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac0fDWteQfbgd4dwSt+v25TmEc9MeQAG3y9A Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR2/3 SU Carbs X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Given the design of the exposed jet SU can they really be made > to be leak free? I believe so, yes. However, they do require attention from time to time to keep them that way. My experience (with H6 that are basically identical in the float and jet area) is that the original type seals only last about a year before they start to leak. Whether a "professional" rebuild will achieve that, I do not know. I've helped a local TR3B owner fix his carbs after they were professionally rebuilt; the jets were not centered properly and the locking nuts had been left loose. My opinion, if you want it done right, do it yourself. > leaking from the jet bodies, Moss motors sells "improved" jet seals, which have worked very well for me. It is also important IMO to polish the surface of the jet where the seal rides. This both reduces wear and improves the choke action. I have also seen replacement jets where the jet itself would leak! > float levels Use the standard type float valves (not Grose Jets), adjust them by the book, check that the float doesn't have fuel inside and that the fuel pressure is not too high. If you are getting overflows, replace all the soft lines and consider adding a (non-original) filter just before the carb inlet to catch any crud that makes it past the screen and sediment bowl in the pump. > excessive richness If this is at idle, it may be an indication that the jets and/or needles are worn (from being run with the centering not quite right). This is a somewhat dangerous situation, as leaning out the idle will cause the cruise mixture to also be lean; which can lead to overheating and even severe engine damage. (Which I once heard described as a "cloud of engine parts chasing me down the highway.") > stiff choke actuation, As above, polish the surface of the jets until they shine. Toothpaste and your fingers will work fine (of course you have to clean out all traces of toothpaste afterwards). I also advocate replacing the springs both inside the jets and the choke return springs. They frequently get tweaked by either old age, or previous owners trying to improve things. Check that the cable itself works freely and is the proper type (stranded center, not solid). Hook the linkage up following the photo in Practical Hints (or the diagram in "More BS on TRs"). Don't worry that the pivots are loosey-goosey, they are supposed to be that way. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 13:39:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A669C2D093C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:39:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B092C2D06DC for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:30:48 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=ReYS+iRv c=1 sm=0 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:17 a=gW9qi44zxCkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=JXMGPYjs7wcxNvGme-0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.127.147.4 Received: from [66.127.147.4] ([66.127.147.4:37793] helo=ryoung2wna) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id FB/D6-07741-189B19F4; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 19:31:13 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: <7076.5bca340.3cc2aab1@cs.com> In-Reply-To: <7076.5bca340.3cc2aab1@cs.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 12:31:12 -0700 Message-ID: <000901cd1f2c$25ab5560$71020020$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac0e7c0OrJefRA9NSamkWiMOlcrcqQAPgeCg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] more harness X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > The trick I used when I checked out the TR3 is I connected each circuit > to the battery via a spare headlamp. I even save old headlight bulbs for this sort of thing. > Leave out the fuses But first start with the headlamp between the battery connector and the battery. There is a lot of the TR3 harness that is not protected by fuses (including the entire headlight circuit). -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 14:27:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D7E42D0975 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 14:27:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 849192D06B1 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 14:21:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: by obbeh20 with SMTP id eh20so10384119obb.14 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:21:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:mime-version:content-type:subject:date:in-reply-to:to :references:message-id:x-mailer; bh=yMrhl5tUBzlW2l/mMaEUYQ21FE7c85M506VAmQDr+wc=; b=ffgoAt6JkV/HiPOo7CdLozLCr5yMiPmm+OOGU7c77w2WqC9xiBNLk0WEcLe7FZXIxE uGCS4BK5hPzEr5U1adsvkqVRpl4SJWV6/61FWTM8RpXLGTufLmE/gB/Zh/5Qx2hjKEaI Jkkqoijuzt+/3i+Hp7xG3VSFweYy8/CaLNNheSkkkJrehyiNqY8gisYKIWt7aHZ4r3xS S1h10cHPrF0dxiSe/EsU8sIX3LNbtoptQJR2lSniAZ3I839plP/Yvdn2xeufiTmzKvMe IoBhoOwZQhataKFs0JalQq6N1EfB5iAXPizddYn8cHrAB0xQuzsy6DFzEMgTa4yD24Hj gBCg== Received: by 10.182.169.41 with SMTP id ab9mr9256769obc.4.1334953287498; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.105] ([97.103.22.238]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id a8sm6281195oea.8.2012.04.20.13.21.25 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 20 Apr 2012 13:21:26 -0700 (PDT) From: John Wise Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:21:24 -0400 In-Reply-To: <000401cd1f28$d58aaac0$80a00040$@rr.com> To: car discussion Sports Triumph References: <716962.1847845.1334937866069.JavaMail.root@vznit170132> <000401cd1f28$d58aaac0$80a00040$@rr.com> Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] LED lights X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net For my TR3 I used an electronic flasher. On my 911 I put a resister in line with the lights (there is no electronic flasher that would fit it. John. On 20 Apr, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Randall wrote: >> Lights and Flasher will work properly if you replace only the rear >> lamps. >> The load from the regular bulbs at the front (which to me were not as >> necessary) is sufficient to activate the flasher/indicator. > > True for some flashers, not all of them. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr3a.60@gmail.com John A. Wise Ormond Beach, FL 1960 Triumph TR3A Commission No: TS80422L http://members.cox.net/60tr3a/ http://www.triumphowners.com/876 1977 Porsche 911S http://members.cox.net/porsche911s/ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 15:48:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 690612D0902 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:48:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22B502D0707 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:37:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.200]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q3KLbKSQ004486 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:37:20 -0400 Received: from core-doa004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-doa004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.211.13]) by mtaomg-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 07C7AE000082 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:37:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip19474@aol.com Message-ID: <3b6.6b99b207.3cc3310f@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:37:19 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 5002 X-Originating-IP: [173.49.70.166] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1334957840; bh=4K2Md8ATM8U+r+Cs4IvF+hwYDZfFykHVe6sy0K17ZSU=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jUEhh0nlL1mPrmAfg7J7sueCUKCh1A0pYaCurW8ZFjUE3wdCCWTpZSDghMFqrO8hr GoJ6RxXKXp+lYThULB3yXRGuXue3i4fL33rC75YYl89mShA0KVX6vDSWiF011uh3Uq PJokYPcnrEeytscyeAwHDeFtXgR5ilKgnZwRTvGY= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:391488000:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c84f91d7103d4f X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Rostyle Wheel Covers X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, Does anyone know of a source for very nice rostyle wheel covers? I'm looking for a set of four for a customer with a TR250 that we're doing a "little bit better than" daily driver restoration. They don't need to be concours but relatively dent free with decent paint and stainless would be great! (I wish I kept my rostyle covers from my 1969 TR6 38 years ago when I sold the car....to me (back then) they were just "wheel covers":) Thanks, Chip Krout Delaware Valley Triumphs, Ltd. Skippack, PA 1976 TR6 CF57822U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 16:21:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A812D08A0 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:21:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm25-vm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [212.82.109.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1640C2D06A4 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:07:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.56] by nm25.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 22:08:20 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.134] by tm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 22:08:20 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1039.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2012 22:08:20 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 124206.38456.bm@omp1039.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 7647 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Apr 2012 22:08:19 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1334959699; bh=ixGml0Yg7Y9xmHoL4ETqkYC40oz5x4IdnoUWVF015Gk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=MEnrX5bU4bs+xQjPG1MJPtY+lM8hK/icnKe4KsDxoby2M6NT9WQ+5AF2c1Xa77W5xp1u1kpwXIBi2Xr/zwqAOUKm9k73n80uZ87KRyftdsz0t0wptqd0OqkgE8gg5gyb05BP4+TkroQgGALe52X/olis2vKfv/2vL2boqETSGQ4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gR47z7rayEFijuoDy4NY5JuE4aiZ4Qr4C/ygknnVz/wOWtZMXhYMtf47216mfvv3vrBpp6+XCHo61W9xy1Nb60QJLmFx8bME4lQh5D0Qe+/7vd5VEcOCFxutqLGWSAQM6ZswLbSzYeMwgSnKzVlktqPmcHFndYMwt3fVjFAvc5k=; X-YMail-OSG: YYOn_XwVM1lOHXTHYdftVW_OSCj.50LWaf7yH4U1LcHyz5S Tw2wqZdk6UPj7D86sznTlgsEEn.jJDMJChP7ol03H5hwKSQr_VbabNGf5Itj swQEzJPo2kEfG66iOvDmKY7b6UBxZh1_E9QCoMhN556r9G_SG_kkwAPJfuTf nVjkXjWtuRS6ft5_YKdGZmMJsliJdHUCzzROpLHW2jLdPeXiRxY56Cx4n2k5 j57RDPoM0Jchv2PFhlDBLLbeF4EeAL6vPnhjdeC6hm9aN6qsdadxP83q1sPn mb0nmauRb.JN2aS_3PtGu.BhiWWx0eWdaob.dz6khBnJ0hFmIjadhRY_crY0 eFH5Ra4Ajlbi64f7CnzlyUwxy_U_E8lK6kQRYOekIcHIWBWtmTmYDCJXCv1f LTatHioOutcphYbVQdtqhDLVgr863E1AUvFBqkmaYKxSsWg-- Received: from [212.139.248.150] by web29406.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 23:08:19 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 References: <3b6.6b99b207.3cc3310f@aol.com> Message-ID: <1334959699.85806.YahooMailNeo@web29406.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 23:08:19 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: "Chip19474@aol.com" , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: <3b6.6b99b207.3cc3310f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Rostyle Wheel Covers X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Chip You couldn't have come to a better place. I've got no less than 13 of the damned things - all in immaculate condition. I'd be more than happy to make a set available but unfortunately you'll have to reduce your wheel size to 14 inch as these came off a Triumph Big Six Cheers, Jonmac >________________________________ > From: "Chip19474@aol.com" >To: triumphs@autox.team.net >Sent: Friday, 20 April 2012, 22:37 >Subject: [TR] Rostyle Wheel Covers > >List, > >Does anyone know of a source for very nice rostyle wheel covers? I'm >looking for a set of four for a customer with a TR250 that we're doing a "little >bit better than" daily driver restoration. They don't need to be concours >but relatively dent free with decent paint and stainless would be great! >(I wish I kept my rostyle covers from my 1969 TR6 38 years ago when I sold >the car....to me (back then) they were just "wheel covers":) > >Thanks, > >Chip Krout >Delaware Valley Triumphs, Ltd. >Skippack, PA >1976 TR6 CF57822U > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/macartney.john@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 20 16:54:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CDDB2D0983 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:54:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD9C2D08D2 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 16:45:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Hvb06jvS c=1 sm=0 a=i+ZnmGSh0+SU47K8N6GOxA==:17 a=ctP1I5ahBe4A:10 a=3nM_9mRu3rsA:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8A2-SfLM0G8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=-g5HZSyjKc_zVo8iFhkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=0cSmYHG1OK8A:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=i+ZnmGSh0+SU47K8N6GOxA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 98.145.70.134 Received: from [98.145.70.134] ([98.145.70.134:56663] helo=GatewayPC) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from <308gtsi@roadrunner.com>) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 79/D5-16302-137E19F4; Fri, 20 Apr 2012 22:46:09 +0000 From: "Brian Induni" <308gtsi@roadrunner.com> To: Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 15:46:06 -0700 Message-ID: <005f01cd1f47$5f9e2070$1eda6150$@roadrunner.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: Ac0fR1NhuNZ45TvSRDavxNNZjpe28g== Subject: [TR] Complete TR4 engine, gearbox, and separate O/D gearbox FS X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: 308gtsi@roadrunner.com List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I hope I'm not stepping out of bounds by posting this to this forum, but I'm looking to sell some TR4 components. I have a COMPLETE (carbs, generator, EVERYTHING) TR4 engine and attached gearbox. Since this is out of a '63 TR4, I'm thinking it's 3 syncro unit. The second bit is an O/D gearbox out of a TR4, although the year is unknown. It looks like the solenoid is missing, and the solenoid mounting plate is broken where the solenoid mounts - both of these pieces are readily available from Moss. Last pieces is an aftermarket hardtop needing some TLC but in decent shape. Obviously I can't easily ship these, but if you're in the Pac West, we could make arrangements to meet somewhere (I'm in Coeur d' Alene, ID). I'm happy to send pics or answer questions if you're interested. Send an email to Binduni@gmail.com and let's start a discussion. I'm looking to get $750 for the engine/gearbox package, and $550 for the O/D gearbox (given it needs a couple of pieces to be complete). Hardtop can go for $100. Brian ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 21 09:09:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30D052D0670 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 09:09:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from aurora.ties2.net (aurora.ties2.net [198.22.19.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD812D0625 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 09:06:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [172.16.42.6] (69-92-49-2.cpe.cableone.net [69.92.49.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by aurora.ties2.net (8.14.2+Sun/8.13.4) with ESMTP id q3LF6Pg8025661 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 10:06:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe DeMuth X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B176) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 08:06:27 -0700 To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.95.3 at aurora X-Virus-Status: Clean Subject: [TR] Engine rattle X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I had a noise similar to that on the tr3. Turned out the fan was loose do to disintegrated rubber washers. The holes were worn oblong and it was rattling like crazy. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 21 13:26:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 516F42D062A for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 13:26:01 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339332D0633 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 13:13:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q3LJEC4c015085 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:14:12 -0400 Received: from core-dba001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dba001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.48.69]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0E2D9E000086 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:14:12 -0400 (EDT) References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Carl Sereda X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 35919-STANDARD Received: from 108.91.69.108 by Webmail-m115.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.194) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:14:11 -0400 Message-Id: <8CEEE0A11958222-E10-57780@Webmail-m115.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [108.91.69.108] Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2012 15:14:12 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1335035652; bh=NzLHEp8MuUL2xLd41eVHkVEyR9x+Y4lFoypRvWJLZyQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aLg90cZ8XhLui5s43cEqD0veM/sg6CntHAoPa3BolUPYS02EqRR/bvOwe2L0zV8ua KycRwpcagpvYfn+E/vAUyYMPGJEGLCtN5HO3j2NeXMI0vx7JSqHMrnz9RNp94CeOON vD7tcGBncszet3EvjYXJ4Z98LyDkrdFSITs++VQI= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:368063712:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb4f930704222a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A engine rattles X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Guy, Could have something to do with distributor slotted drive shaft.. or problem with advance weights . Or like someone said, fan mounts.. You might isolate the source of rattle better with a 'hearing tube' (length of small diameter tube or garden hose) to hone in on origin of noise while motor running (amazingly helpful). Or one of those engine stethescopes (with a metal rod attachment) to touch against different areas on running motor (carefully!) to hone in on exact location. Could be something as simple as deteriorated engine torque buffer arm rubber (mine was reduced to a rattly steel washer left on the bolt). Good luck, Carl '63 TR4 since '74 In order to help you help me, I made a recording of the engine with a quality microphone and posted to YouTube (link below). In addition to the normal tappet and valve noise we should hear in the engine, I have this mysterious "rattle" that seems to correspond to the advance kicking on or off. Randall suggested it might be detonation, but I have no idea what the hell detonation sounds like. Could you please watch/listen to the video and discern what the noise is? 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I bought new carpet for my TR3A when Moss had its last sale. Now that I have some time, I pulled the OLD (my guess original) stuff out. (Actually not bad for 50+ year old carpet.) It Moss kit came without any instructions (e.g., how to install the snaps), but I can phone them tomorrow & ask that they fax or email them to me (assuming they exist). My question is what would the list suggest to hold the vertical pieces (e.g., the sides of the footwell) in place? Glue (what kind), velcro, screws, snaps, ...??? Any sage advice and/or tips will be appreciated. Thanks John John A. Wise Ormond Beach, FL 1960 Triumph TR3A Commission No: TS80422L http://members.cox.net/60tr3a/ http://www.triumphowners.com/876 1977 Porsche 911S http://members.cox.net/porsche911s/ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 22 08:37:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 297F72D04E3 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 08:37:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 521982D053E for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 08:35:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120422143534.QBZS10966.mta11.charter.net@imp11>; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 10:35:34 -0400 Received: from Alan ([97.81.202.173]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id 12bY1j00L3kyhXD052ba7S; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 10:35:34 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=rvNqJbVGdbt4egs52VbhtoJZG7AoPDG9H2iogr/sNfs= c=1 sm=1 a=I0tfgzmSfv4A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=+kB/tzUWT5WKKx+Tmaxg3g==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=9WyF1X0tAAAA:20 a=zUfupTM5AAAA:8 a=3dBJY5lXAAAA:20 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=zA6eiavFuJYXCpm7Xc8A:9 a=2ZyQF9WSrf1gmg7YyTYA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=+kB/tzUWT5WKKx+Tmaxg3g==:117 Message-ID: <43B7C17B7C2142F5BF00318C31DA507B@Alan> From: "Al Salvatore" To: "John Wise" , "car discussion Sports Triumph" References: <5810C3B6-7111-4CBE-AC01-51390C284A10@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 10:35:38 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Subject: Re: [TR] carpet installation question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I don't know about TR3, but the TR6 footwell carpet was glued to a fiber type board and then screw to the wall. How was the one you took out attached? Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wise" To: "car discussion Sports Triumph" Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 10:09 AM Subject: [TR] carpet installation question >I bought new carpet for my TR3A when Moss had its last sale. Now that I >have > some time, I pulled the OLD (my guess original) stuff out. (Actually not > bad > for 50+ year old carpet.) > > It Moss kit came without any instructions (e.g., how to install the > snaps), > but I can phone them tomorrow & ask that they fax or email them to me > (assuming they exist). > > My question is what would the list suggest to hold the vertical pieces > (e.g., > the sides of the footwell) in place? Glue (what kind), velcro, screws, > snaps, ...??? > > Any sage advice and/or tips will be appreciated. > > Thanks > > John > > John A. Wise > Ormond Beach, FL > > 1960 Triumph TR3A > Commission No: TS80422L > http://members.cox.net/60tr3a/ > http://www.triumphowners.com/876 > > 1977 Porsche 911S > http://members.cox.net/porsche911s/ > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr6parts@charter.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 22 08:52:17 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6AAB2D0330 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 08:52:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF732D044A for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 08:44:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: by obbeh20 with SMTP id eh20so12349434obb.14 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 07:44:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:x-priority:in-reply-to:date :cc:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=w49zosmdw3DtkLsK+eThBHBhwgxt6B8OaBbxX4CIBLQ=; b=ARinDmMye3KpciRP0cuDdgOU8mtIUt0TaAill4gD4kDb53KwXQHdQX6YPiMW13KDrx +Ho9CW48jTX7AoEs9XOJTGeZR2v63JIUVE5+kKECZvJZC5mygqYY/kmFa6H+kC+COGMr WSW6b5Eb+sjt27uGXhYbdjJksp+hhB4z93OYUR+UKu6mbAJVW+5n4I3ua6RV0p4qRDub Szg+WPKwekejA8Irv3lh/2KrHjeA9ZquMPpTVzdNH/jrvWxAzEkz6CJS1kesDORn5pBU SS7jr3ml25olKjmSFZ4l1gkRYn4rtIcqcBjHRYQISiFRGEQfeK1josSAyGuk96204E+n 4SyQ== Received: by 10.60.25.162 with SMTP id d2mr19315109oeg.30.1335105898358; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 07:44:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.105] ([97.103.22.238]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c6sm10453591oec.13.2012.04.22.07.44.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 22 Apr 2012 07:44:57 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) From: John Wise In-Reply-To: <43B7C17B7C2142F5BF00318C31DA507B@Alan> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 10:44:55 -0400 Message-Id: References: <5810C3B6-7111-4CBE-AC01-51390C284A10@gmail.com> <43B7C17B7C2142F5BF00318C31DA507B@Alan> To: Al Salvatore X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: car discussion Sports Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] carpet installation question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My TR3A had rubber floor mats from the seats forward on both sides, they were held up with 2 spring clips on each side. The small carpet piece covering the fire wall over the tunnel was glued in place with some 50 year old glue. All I can say is it is now brown. :-) John On 22 Apr, 2012, at 10:35 AM, Al Salvatore wrote: > I don't know about TR3, but the TR6 footwell carpet was glued to a fiber type board and then screw to the wall. > > How was the one you took out attached? > > Al > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wise" > To: "car discussion Sports Triumph" > Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 10:09 AM > Subject: [TR] carpet installation question > > >> I bought new carpet for my TR3A when Moss had its last sale. Now that I have >> some time, I pulled the OLD (my guess original) stuff out. (Actually not bad >> for 50+ year old carpet.) >> >> It Moss kit came without any instructions (e.g., how to install the snaps), >> but I can phone them tomorrow & ask that they fax or email them to me >> (assuming they exist). >> >> My question is what would the list suggest to hold the vertical pieces (e.g., >> the sides of the footwell) in place? Glue (what kind), velcro, screws, >> snaps, ...??? >> >> Any sage advice and/or tips will be appreciated. >> >> Thanks >> >> John >> >> John A. Wise >> Ormond Beach, FL >> >> 1960 Triumph TR3A >> Commission No: TS80422L >> http://members.cox.net/60tr3a/ >> http://www.triumphowners.com/876 >> >> 1977 Porsche 911S >> http://members.cox.net/porsche911s/ >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr6parts@charter.net > > John A. Wise Ormond Beach, FL 1960 Triumph TR3A Commission No: TS80422L http://members.cox.net/60tr3a/ http://www.triumphowners.com/876 1977 Porsche 911S http://members.cox.net/porsche911s/ ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 22 09:08:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4439A2D05EF for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 09:08:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0457B2D04FF for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 08:57:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.43]) by qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 12Lp1j0030vyq2s5D2xps8; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 14:57:49 +0000 Received: from [10.234.252.165] ([174.252.156.174]) by omta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 12xe1j0213m2ce63R2xh8h; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 14:57:46 +0000 To: Triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 10:57:45 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] =?utf-8?q?Update_on_addco_sway_bar?= X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Message-Id: <20120422150804.4439A2D05EF@autox.team.net> You guys may remember I bought an addco sway bar for the front of a early (ct3xx) TR4. It did not fit. Basically, the problem is that the bar's side arms are too short to allow the bar to be mounted high enough on the front bumper supports to allow the bar to be level, and allow the links to be vertical. I was contacted by Addco, and told that if I would send info they would make a bar that works. I was happy to help and sent photos and measurements to the individual who contacted me. Unfortunately, since then, silence. These bars do not fit the early cars correctly, and use of the bar as supplied stress the bumper supports due to the incorrect design. Just a word to the wise, especially if you are buying off eBay. Further updates if I hear anything. Ray Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 22 09:08:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA482D06A0 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 09:08:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D194B2D0518 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 09:05:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from PetePC ([unknown] [96.252.161.175]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0M2V00H58Z9SALA0@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for Triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 10:05:53 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <9C82FF05CF1F426A949DA2C697FD76CD@PetePC> From: "Peter Ryner" To: "John Wise" , "car discussion Sports Triumph" References: <5810C3B6-7111-4CBE-AC01-51390C284A10@gmail.com> <43B7C17B7C2142F5BF00318C31DA507B@Alan> In-reply-to: Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:05:47 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] carpet installation question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net John, On all of the TR-3s I've seen, all had the carpet glued directly to to metal, no backing boards or screws were used. I used spray contact cement to hold the carpet onto the metal. Need the heavy duty stuff like 3M high strength 90. You can also brush normal contact cement on both sides. The brush on stuff comes in a water base formula which is much less fumes issue, but I've found that it doesn't hold quite as well. Also make sure everything is clean. The glue will not adhere to dirt or dust. If you have fresh paint on the metal surface it is best to let it cure completely before glueing the carpet in place. The solvents in the glue will lift fresh paint. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wise" To: "Al Salvatore" Cc: "car discussion Sports Triumph" Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [TR] carpet installation question > My TR3A had rubber floor mats from the seats forward on both sides, they > were > held up with 2 spring clips on each side. The small carpet piece covering > the > fire wall over the tunnel was glued in place with some 50 year old glue. > All > I can say is it is now brown. :-) > > John ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 22 10:11:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8657C2D0692 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 10:11:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm3.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm3.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.60]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 556432D0609 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 10:02:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.53] by nm3.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2012 16:03:14 -0000 Received: from [212.82.109.129] by tm6.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2012 16:03:14 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1036.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2012 16:03:14 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 818042.37611.bm@omp1036.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 76123 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Apr 2012 16:03:14 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1335110594; bh=vv2B8UMElnjDVJaPUtcLjast7aYmFwJSM8ezu0atKNM=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AvPSFPemeByhSc1fBHmNDHS9vrpN3hsQOVH9x8uwsZ2Kvdye3dazw0101E4K7AGYFm+l42RJI/MFwxiLGJIYDySXQT59lFE5KNV6G4HsCxDDuOJxppWRJYeXA62TeYqrk04KVKgsslDdjJRnPSl2sh74K/Nl/Ee+J4/AbvZJutw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fao97mrSsw9lkxI+arI/P5oBNbIPKnt/rnMo7tmCTu895tznpaqth2JJxiyGkz/oDWZJACRBm0wK4EMyh/W0PTq9j5VhB4BYH5il106IYsxr/GGfIYG4YpeBxnOLmvNbx6wpn1KjbLQidHC/nHMsUIvdPHe8ns9HsKSzdLHU9W4=; X-YMail-OSG: rdylaXcVM1mB8Xyokgw8rsz_Syb6K_YNxa6jBzeRIhiEWnW 5KPFVjcj.5NpFMpSVbii_TkHJLlLuL9gifp2a.1iw0Ygeoz5G40AHfBKwWQk UoIvYmz4vGO9Dy2vx2.gOaZ7jxiGuXNp_0c4FZY3YVke8QPY4yt3x9ctZ7my B7GBhpMieCwxUziPW886ph_VR4zDMuw8iZAhG4IRRtQ4slXqCrgj2FL3lDPa kCsI0OmhGviNwKOd1tpyZsrcGds.bVAjDCU9s5E0KYexGPXhss0xD2bL8WVl ihOKfesICFnjHkKz9lOrmo.D48twW3PHLQE16Fuq9cP1AZJ1owpLue152U.e EekscsUZzPEuosCP8GdGgl1Y33LanrQ-- Received: from [75.8.78.11] by web28802.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:03:14 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 Message-ID: <1335110594.40870.YahooMailNeo@web28802.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:03:14 +0100 (BST) From: Larry Brouder To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] GT6+ Body Removal X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Larry Brouder List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have completed stripping the body and it's time for it to go on the rotisserie. All body bolts are out, shocks are disconnected. Is it recommended to just jack it up and lift it off? Any stress points to be concerned about? Also, tag shows a paint code for royal blue, but body has a ton of high-gloss exterior white (wheel wells inside, under side vents, etc.). Did they use a high-gloss white to prime (which seems unlikely) or does this car have an incorrect tag? The white is in places none of the many repaints would have touched. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 22 10:42:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0C922D0692 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 10:42:51 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173007pub.verizon.net (vms173007pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13402D05E8 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 10:34:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from diannhome ([unknown] [71.100.23.244]) by vms173007.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0M2W002ML3AKGOA0@vms173007.mailsrvcs.net> for Triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:34:17 -0500 (CDT) From: "Carl TR" To: "'John Wise'" , "'car discussion Sports Triumph'" References: <5810C3B6-7111-4CBE-AC01-51390C284A10@gmail.com> In-reply-to: <5810C3B6-7111-4CBE-AC01-51390C284A10@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 12:32:30 -0400 Message-id: <007501cd20a5$86048bf0$920da3d0$@net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac0gkyQBO8ty+Na6SdaxVedBVkwdQwAEe4ZA Cc: cfmtr3a@verizon.net Subject: Re: [TR] carpet installation question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: cfmtr3a@verizon.net List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net There are no obvious holes so I was going to glue - but Velcro may be a good alternative so that they can be removed if ever necessary. I am thinking that the hook side could be put on the metal and be positioned so that it mates with the carpet that is rolled over around the sides... Thanks for the suggestion. Carl 1961 Triumph TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ getting closer. 2012 is the year! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 22 12:52:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D70E72D0679 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 12:52:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D305D2D0506 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 12:43:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=bLSU0YCZ c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=sXzTg63QYfAA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=8KO1OxLhe9i1D_-5VrYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id BA/B2-29249-E51549F4; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 18:43:42 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , References: <20120422150815.6F3032D05D7@autox.team.net> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 11:43:42 -0700 Message-ID: <07ee01cd20b7$d77f2370$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <20120422150815.6F3032D05D7@autox.team.net> Thread-Index: Ac0gmc+u2E/4+HZ/RUWmG2evHHXKsgAHYrVA Subject: Re: [TR] Update on addco sway bar X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I was happy to help and sent photos and measurements to the > individual who contacted me. > Unfortunately, since then, silence. When I had a similar incident with them, many years ago, it took about 3 weeks for the modified parts to show up on my doorstep. No word from them before or after, but the parts fit and I was happy. > Basically, the problem is that the bar's side arms are too > short to allow the bar to be mounted high enough on the front > bumper supports to allow the bar to be level, and allow the > links to be vertical. So, how far off is it? 10-15 degrees isn't going to hurt anything, IMO. Mine was slightly off-level, with the car at normal ride height; and still worked quite well. After all, it doesn't stay level anyway. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I like Carl's suggestion of Velcro though I have recently use a similar product that I think is a major improvement on the velcro concept: http://www.3m.com/product/information/Dual-Lock-Reclosable-Fastener.html Looks a bit like Velcro but really (audibly) snaps into place and makes a very strong & firm connection. Can even hold quite a bit of weight. I found some at Ace in 3" lengths though not all Ace's have them. Geo On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 9:32 AM, Carl TR wrote: > There are no obvious holes so I was going to glue - but Velcro may be a > good > alternative so that they can be removed if ever necessary... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 22 16:03:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 436F82D03FB for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 16:03:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D2DE2D04C3 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 15:59:18 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=XfYl+Rh7+zmO7Nvk/cQzsNdZfl5uDHjRoHPY4WvTdypvTDHICDmcKICgU/Wg80tt; h=Received:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [205.234.157.53] (helo=DellDesktop) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1SM4oc-0004Bh-0J; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:59:30 -0400 From: "Tomislav Marincic" To: Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 17:59:28 -0400 Message-ID: <000901cd20d3$31562590$940270b0$@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac0g0zBNkBCWda3CSwydvvYa7I7Y+g== Content-Language: en-us X-ELNK-Trace: eb63139a85deb818363b9ce4e2eb45a981b09582c12b02407e972de0d01da940a9fffd97cd174f5382de4b250d06c53f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 205.234.157.53 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] GT6+ Body Removal X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My bet is that someone had two GT6's and one valid title, if the car is ex-US. Maybe this happens in the UK too, but you guys keep the same plates for the life of the car, right? Do you have a Heritage certificate for the car? Is the body number correct for that commission number? I once went to look at a TR250 for sale, and it had a Commission number that began with CT. At some point someone had a TR250 with no title and a TR4 parts car, I suppose. Good Luck, Tom ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 22 19:43:28 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EC6B2D0693 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 19:43:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB77A2D0527 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 19:35:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A62862E060 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2012 19:42:20 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4F94B348.4020908@bradakis.com> Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2012 19:41:28 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 'TR List' References: <0A86A87F-2216-40B1-86C3-F4A2D47E937E@citlink.net> <0c7d01cd1c02$7f501740$7df045c0$@rr.com> In-Reply-To: <0c7d01cd1c02$7f501740$7df045c0$@rr.com> Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Differential X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wonder if it just the pin that holds the planet gear shaft in place. On the MGB I worked on the other day that was just a basic 3/16" roll pin. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 23 09:32:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D9CF2D04A5 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 09:32:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm11.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm11.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C4FA12D0457 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 09:27:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.52] by nm11.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2012 15:28:08 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.124] by tm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2012 15:28:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1033.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2012 15:28:08 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 762257.6233.bm@omp1033.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 59949 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Apr 2012 15:28:08 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1335194888; bh=V7+uRLj6HWmgzrBT2sGKSDJ1wHumYPLux4YmDN/uHno=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pqCEI0DlW75/x8E7pWyRWpOd1oelLCIye20v87ca3zwTwQRSKzVMT8NUoQtycb7Fk/M1UsPJzZc9AlLQuf6NPIiQJetM2jAtxPszUDnTA7oVEatfZcRqKOfG7XMrsN0mmZqxnbHva0PiXc+6IjkEYxpKoIwl0TjjNQU0Mi0k9g4= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Vuk9pggV+keSXOEu0nQe8HcgbHwAz5u6RY/HCmn2g8qeEpikjLdrExX0MfBZ9PorLnGdM950W8/XcZ0d8NnjvlbxuWBXxtRn9GBWR+CzGYJphJoEuuL6PBO42RJYCZonb6oy9vIjSDgfEGIQO+IMQXEMiY3J+szSrxd5J/6ZPd4=; X-YMail-OSG: kRO4fhAVM1mAlDzDWjWnWJ5ofTVxQetjaeK9LbAWCGojd1T y3GyHLFXE.Y4O3RfMeAjwvXXBBYPoLH1movDIrVH9wC.cPn2vr2S7omYun03 qbnfmDP6LNwxcyKElQF.NQDvius6WPyv2X7JnovHpF_G3uGvlP72cad2wLQI uh5U5DLYQgSrqy3N48fkgcTSedbwDRH7DmVl610st1KzBQeu7X9NWLTgfo3M sQqxZ6R65ypE6qxuOtcWRUNY8mDjnLgKj.8KeH9PO8Esz8CDUwSiWICOccA1 AnLAc780cpumhU_bKJvZDeQ0jft1gSYDJG1DQknpxS0IZBdf7WKKYWUUFJyf IE8q1K9u9IPjgShGjiYqrr0aAuCEmeDuRiObxhGhbCAClA_V8Q4Dj0BXEmEp Fnw-- Received: from [75.8.78.11] by web28806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 16:28:08 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 References: <000901cd20d3$31562590$940270b0$@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1335194888.57627.YahooMailNeo@web28806.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 16:28:08 +0100 (BST) From: Larry Brouder To: Tomislav Marincic In-Reply-To: <000901cd20d3$31562590$940270b0$@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] GT6+ Body Removal X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Larry Brouder List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Tom, B It's a U.S. car (my email is confusing-I'm in the U.S.), with the window surround and side tag showing KC57392. The paint # shows as 56 (Royal Blue) and interior color code is 27. Is a Heritage Certificate equivalent toB Carfax and/or UK specific? B Thanks, LB ________________________________ From: Tomislav Marincic To: lbrouder@yahoo.co.uk Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, 22 April 2012, 17:59 Subject: RE: GT6+ Body Removal My bet is that someone had two GT6bs and one valid title, if the car is ex-US. Maybe this happens in the UK too, but you guys keep the same plates for the life of the car, right? B Do you have a Heritage certificate for the car?B Is the body number correct for that commission number? B I once went to look at a TR250 for sale, and it had a Commission number that began with CT. At some point someone had a TR250 with no title and a TR4 parts car, I suppose. B Good Luck, Tom ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 23 13:16:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 396DB2D04B8 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:16:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB9B2D04B8 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:15:42 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=gV1uqsfjKDyqOQI3CMUo437iH29+oulQ8LwJrwaOEOlRsS0IzgRZRb7z3uChu+0H; h=Received:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [205.234.157.53] (helo=DellDesktop) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1SMOk4-0001Iz-MZ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:16:08 -0400 From: "Tomislav Marincic" To: Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:16:09 -0400 Message-ID: <002001cd2185$8a206c00$9e614400$@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac0hhYYgvB2ZI7xwReuAe25H5X5coQ== Content-Language: en-us X-ELNK-Trace: eb63139a85deb818363b9ce4e2eb45a981b09582c12b02407e972de0d01da940c2b9ffc694d9c3f582b3d8f4d12de5b1350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 205.234.157.53 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: lbrouder@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [TR] GT6+ X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net RE:" . Is a Heritage Certificate equivalent to Carfax and/or UK specific?" Larry, Not exactly. A Heritage Certificate is a copy of the factory records that Triumph had for your car, including original color, engine/body numbers, date built, date "despatched", destination distributor, and sometimes key codes. For example, my TR6 left the factory with a white top ("hood") and Damson paint. It was built on 20 June 1970, but not shipped until 11 November, so it featured authentic English corrosion right on the showroom floor. You can see the actual certificate at www.triumphowners.com/735. Get yours here: http://www.heritage-motor-centre.co.uk/archive-services/ Cheers, Tom CC55483L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 23 14:47:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36B212D0740 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:47:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm32.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm32.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.238.128]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3821F2D06FA for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:39:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.141] by nm32.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2012 20:39:28 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.250] by tm12.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2012 20:39:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1059.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2012 20:39:28 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 779869.61222.bm@omp1059.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 7547 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Apr 2012 20:39:28 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1335213568; bh=qByn/KERo99uWPUjyoSuO+Z/5xxwpjBEhIk7Rx0uWUQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=C4FOAMFoAXlQ1Fzf/tSivsV4lkQKezsjOeSw8TyuqC6m5BaHcDkTufrTLzbz+sPphQ00UBlnDkMylRbD9JHGypQh8LCpHmoZ2W8B+vE0gzJy/1rhDLQhdriNChNId5JApavOdkJ1fYDGOIi+fmdpjdPIBShHp/usLgTqBQyFbog= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=iXAkwKCyIsTcrpx1TQS6MltnkGCs015v4pNpuG9I4h6pKoDnzY2nsZW8xg6dujGuEb+VpPeE9uqkjXJsCNPjTSI3JHVukM4h1c1W8mGhMQ8RfMRkBTtzjgNpnOg5wdhTTDF6mTPaBkkcfxFvTYBPLM3N/PklrjFHcrUQ7JYWndI=; X-YMail-OSG: 029LRioVM1lblkFAU0DR4dqRZ.GVxekc_ai48xnr1w6N_Yg cLBBpcQJ5s82FQI2Wy3_HFYuQdpqxcUj1g0PvJCdFbyXfpKiwZxU.xDL9yeH BDEOd9yjFMzBWuVDxmlPdfy9NqZ5AlUgQjw_7wLDTk89DKdwmWZmWko3QJaG H9jQ4BiIOeb2Cv1Oo4l9OFk8ofCq9yk32UWmx0rM0_5dqAqY51LfPOeiJMjp yqZ7XMHLwdfqa1o9TC26CsYsMYNU3Oebu4QN7avvDZdzPqATrC5CXX9wYYi1 wNEiyXCMlq4pAJYLN1JwKGPNHydqvfvEhYPig9uj9zVQ4UT4Lto0cIh5J0qM TPJ3.Dqz086GTkZQw4jpxlvQlAjsUvkPwGkemBUZL6EeYRoM4TvovipFRlNW gV3Llh19GzIT9wbBvksUHAMw6vOydpvKJN0_.OhyDLZUCykWAT4e.h6FTlRa xL5FLgLytRuSMLGXHj1w- Received: from [121.98.166.122] by web161402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:39:28 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 Message-ID: <1335213568.6833.YahooMailNeo@web161402.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:39:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin T To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Engine Rattle (third try..) X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Kevin T List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My experience of a similar rattle was caused by the waterpump pulley cracking near the boss, allowing the pulley to intermittently contact the pump housing. It took some locating, until the fanbelt was removed.... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 23 14:54:31 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2FD82D0759 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:54:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm7-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.222]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id D72F92D073E for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:54:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.50] by nm7.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2012 20:54:50 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.113] by tm3.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2012 20:54:50 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1022.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2012 20:54:50 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 201768.40246.bm@omp1022.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 92459 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Apr 2012 20:54:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1335214490; bh=ZLJe3Yjnm/D3n1Mh3zOKLwBjrJVjE1tMGyOUqc04Sho=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IFdOAEovJVClxBnEKN57GFXxcOBnNoW+8uMo+H4bR8Ei2zZfXNrS9sg8rUWczNy5mnvWHc4AHJlZ8PZqaWxtjEcRECrIzU88PEV+KhQPkviTVa+ioNPv4MCqhWi6Liarc03jv4ywjhDImN+y2HM5guFlVf0MfLNtbl7LaJCx1Cs= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YxZ40GuC1+EEKRYC+xiaKwbpSBwMGKPqaOOivb4kSn74NnMHvQ89hqcoZEOE0AyKlLcYfG3A9+YQ8kd5+jsV51jPZ2/tFIPmNChPGYYC38IX1pGdI2OYCb4v4xHnrDs3lup/pwJ4UqBp5/jg7Yd2ecxJj6hOMmzuQnIGvoIfNYw=; X-YMail-OSG: fJ6nWB0VM1m_9.HStUGEfdxcJ75aFYS4EndUJ93nYn8RyuA Yu_7hsQ034Kbzg8k0cFufwtb68y3mUMfDmeKd.CT7icorSol7nVwwv2TJWaG jvROlJXE9Jsg7gkMj2ibXcQ47AtwdfH1BasDR.DyQXRwdsOfbinwXY2.H427 LMMixjXpvHB0lrg7Ya0aR6Ccyg_iEiXCzYY5KX8buQzh4BB9onQWkPFrgND5 t3cyBAVsXeeg_6lIpQy7r4HN_PaJFGfZbii.KsKhughcLRhEX_1hiAB1NPQT XwTgflTU22iqINAhb1ZHHOwOMehu4tD_Z4cv1hoW9fIIqE8rNUoYPKl2_Kuq 8VNH9b.lX3uRi.c1Ct6edkCrBgyweEkM8Uy5cpbx1ZwXB6B9A Received: from [212.139.241.108] by web29401.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 21:54:49 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 References: <002001cd2185$8a206c00$9e614400$@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1335214489.75487.YahooMailNeo@web29401.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 21:54:49 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: Tomislav Marincic , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: <002001cd2185$8a206c00$9e614400$@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "lbrouder@yahoo.co.uk" Subject: Re: [TR] GT6+ X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tom Maricic wrote: For example, my TR6 left the factory with a white top ("hood") and Damson paint. It was built on 20 June 1970, but not shipped until 11 November, so it featured authentic English corrosion right on the showroom floor. Tom, for accuracy's sake, I've got an aerial picture of the very much 'open air' showroom at RAF Honeybourne where all the cars were stored prior to shipment :) It's only about five miles from where I live now, periodically flooded then and still floods now - so that was where the rust started. Used to go there from time to time on Saturday mornings in the 1960's to earn some overtime looking for cars that had somehow got 'lost' or robbed of bits. I've also written an article for the UK clubs about that place - with pix - if anyone knows a club newsletter editor looking for empty pages to fill. No charge for the material supply, just a copyright acknowledgement, so email me off-list if there's any interest out there? Jonmac ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 23 15:04:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 403522D0771 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:04:01 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.truedefense.com (mail05.truedefense.com [216.69.224.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 145B42D0757 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 14:56:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from otnoex2.onthenetoffice.com ([172.16.8.9]) by mail05.truedefense.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q3NKugXB034808; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:56:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from JPayne@ThorCon.net) Received: from otnoex0.onthenetoffice.com ([172.16.8.4]) by otnoex2.onthenetoffice.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:56:42 -0700 Received: from EX1HTS01.onthenetoffice.com ([172.16.8.31]) by otnoex0.onthenetoffice.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:56:42 -0700 Received: from EX1MBX01.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::f9f4:b916:4b54:5534]) by ex1hts01.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::dcca:855d:bb32:dc3f%12]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:56:42 -0700 From: Jonas Payne To: "'John Macartney'" , "'Tomislav Marincic'" , "'triumphs@autox.team.net'" Thread-Topic: [TR] GT6+ Thread-Index: Ac0hhYYgvB2ZI7xwReuAe25H5X5coQASHimAAA6kkbA= Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 20:56:41 +0000 Message-ID: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C16A1A0C9@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> References: <002001cd2185$8a206c00$9e614400$@earthlink.net> <1335214489.75487.YahooMailNeo@web29401.mail.ird.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1335214489.75487.YahooMailNeo@web29401.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [172.16.12.67] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Apr 2012 20:56:42.0546 (UTC) FILETIME=[9614B120:01CD2193] Cc: "'lbrouder@yahoo.co.uk'" Subject: Re: [TR] GT6+ X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Absolutely, Our club (BACLV - British Auto Club of Las Vegas) newsletter (The Spanner) would love to have it and would provide proper acknowledgement. Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 23 15:26:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B0472D0750 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:26:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm10-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.90]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B4D72D0399 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:25:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.57] by nm10.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2012 21:26:02 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.253] by tm10.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2012 21:26:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1018.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2012 21:26:02 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 620638.52975.bm@omp1018.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 22635 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Apr 2012 21:26:02 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1335216362; bh=KJw5MV5Yq9rhahPYLLKPHaW0x+MhJ1siGbakmuRrlSk=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=KcysLAwhLM5kykPPaS6bXHBo+SjKN1Azs1uLuGnEmUgmunYgabOZtCswQBtarHVy69mHoczdyWsIdlVzo1ZbknJ4Jg8A7bszgl1Ziu1/pbn7uGDXRcsoUjqjsRkuQ9daseEHTQ97ApJHR4M1PEv0wAbItbCMZgHdBpGcxtklLAw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PS4YRsNuzR1wzasu+UyCKqsqPMXasyh4AIviv6BvrqOIhHMZUJrBLYPb1VnPja4MTGwcrXqZWwfae9YgQWoODq3cfh+V+vNdmVDaYvdltUuXkIoXSEB5KJLRNcw3zBUShgTfcNHUXYtavRb4jbRuLektYf+V/xdIeGoocU0pa1Q=; X-YMail-OSG: ds4B5cQVM1lIXEqndXeuLG8sCW2QU3c9GMwMR9ZkBzRofQe By.GWjkQ3ISgEmcpB3cEstfeHFr2ExK7E_Gm1C6u0252F6BGRL7gbls0C2wC e.3JET8932qpxh6HAg3rXznCCqLmZjPqLFpRM5DSsoneG.WOsRkBNX_su9Lz hyjy8RVF4cJHE9_W6DaxwIFLd4wRNH5u8Ds3plfi9ruYtKJg1JFYmPEI7Wf0 PUTkgMUPl0HnCxhNaUYt206dQ7TYQWeroeP2kwDBmlhMajjx7CBwgmgIApml 4Uns90Z6gKNfff4ueJs4Tt9i1OOBwWvg95QkhxlGUpEzDYOcQZODX.wXLk00 XjAQrJzcSJqvmRJuLUFgG4zracdEV68dPBAUmavPyKIn0gSluBHDtg2dmza4 HpEJSCfjhir6H0kUnGtqsxwGxD5zictRGEfRkXZmV56JxCk3LwCZOcXu3_zj fu1BBFfWKnAo3vapVmYru Received: from [212.139.241.108] by web29405.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 22:26:02 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 Message-ID: <1335216362.22346.YahooMailNeo@web29405.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 22:26:02 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: Triumph List MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] RAF Honeybourne - the open air showroom!!! X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wow - in less than 10 minutes, four people have replied with a 'yes, please.' Delighted to help gents and thanks for such a rapid response. Certainly faster than a Lucas starter in firing up a reluctant Herald :) There's only one little thing. I've got a busy week away from home from tomorrow onwards, it's an early start and bedtime in the UK is now-now. What I plan to do is to send off the material in one hit over the coming weekend if that's OK with everyone? It'll help me if those of you who may yet reply can use the subject heading I've used in this post? Makes things easier when trolling through the In-box. Cheers all, John http://standard-triumph-books.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 23 15:50:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490482D0744 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:50:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF5082D03C7 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 15:47:05 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=B4l4MFZZ+yH5ynLKZaK7/yzOB16MQ1rdrjl1037u/fn7oiRpBOxcledyqsoPWLdv; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Cc:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.47] (helo=elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1SMR6Q-0005rS-L2; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 17:47:22 -0400 Received: from 205.234.157.53 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 17:47:22 -0400 Message-ID: <21070255.1335217642649.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 17:47:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Tomislav Marincic To: John Macartney Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: eb63139a85deb818363b9ce4e2eb45a981b09582c12b02407e972de0d01da9407042614eb84f601917098eccd06aa6d5350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.47 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from text/html by demime 1.01d Cc: triumphs list Subject: Re: [TR] GT6+ X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tomislav Marincic List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net /local/mailman/lynxXXXX0lLjNY: Permission denied ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 23 20:08:06 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC152D0749 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 20:08:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640DA2D0743 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 19:59:51 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=bd9Rf2NVxcU46CNDMIA5PJ/3Nm5cswA9bmGpGNxAFsF65bKnd3AzdoLFZ5qNOAI4; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [174.28.157.122] (helo=Shemp) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1SMV3C-000248-6l for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 22:00:18 -0400 Message-ID: <7B52B2BF53BB4AA1B6215DAC7EC6D7F6@Shemp> From: "Cliff Hansen" To: "list Triumph" Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 20:00:18 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3538.513 X-ELNK-Trace: 528c356ac306a91c1da3787d14811d2a4d2b10475b5711201f07479fc381ea6aadca59844c1e093ecd0c042b896368d8350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 174.28.157.122 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR4 and TR4A for sale X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Listed in the Albuquerque paper as TR4 Parting out. I went to see them today. The TR4 (CT26776) has been outdoors for a long time and it would be a labor of love to it bring back from its current sad state. The bonnet and boot may be useful; I doubt any of the fenders could be salvaged. Usual rot in the sills. The owner told me that the engine had been rebuilt when he bought the car, but he only had the previous ownerbs word on that. The best parts may be the switch plinth, which actually looked usable, and the capping around the cockpit, which was also decent. The TR4A (CTC59578) has been stored indoors, and other than a ratty black paint job, looked to be in decent shape, but not ready to be driven away. I didnbt find rust in the usual places. No overdrive in either. I didnbt ask him about titles. The owner was at least 5 beers past any rational discussion. I got the impression that he just wanted them gone and would likely take an offer for one or preferably both. The owner has no internet access. Ibd be happy to facilitate a deal and will give you his name and phone number if you are interested. He just asked that I not post his number but I can reply with it to interested parties. My only interest is seeing at least one car go to a better home than the junkman. Ibd buy the TR4A but have no place to store it. Cliff ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 23 20:54:44 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF7E32D0750 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 20:54:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9DA2D03C7 for ; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 20:47:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q3O2lUlC023997; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 22:47:30 -0400 Received: from core-mhd004c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mhd004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.239.68]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CAEA4E000087; Mon, 23 Apr 2012 22:47:29 -0400 (EDT) References: <1335216362.22346.YahooMailNeo@web29405.mail.ird.yahoo.com> To: flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk, triumphs@autox.team.net In-Reply-To: <1335216362.22346.YahooMailNeo@web29405.mail.ird.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Andrew S. Mace" X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 35919-STANDARD Received: from 67.158.165.96 by webmail-m150.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.156) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 23 Apr 2012 22:47:29 -0400 Message-Id: <8CEEFDBB86E6BAD-A34-37E53@webmail-m150.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [67.158.165.96] Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 22:47:29 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1335235650; bh=O7Z2MiNspenQgt/xuow9agScxWGqjvsaDM4RAfMNASQ=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=g+4aN1KHvOlFSEjNxbOsoAy4tZRR6xOLeiBWlXZpw2qm9ccw8BR0a43AEmU3Qb+iu z36zWwm7rmDn/9hVwvZ55UjboqH/Cujix0TYhb/9+jt4HCNedQr+aEf8BF7nMLawaR g2TcWydXa8qpp8L1jb3xKDeTKX9MYY6UXiWJOJ8I= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:428085504:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29084f9614410e05 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] RAF Honeybourne - the open air showroom!!! X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net John wrote: >Certainly faster >than a Lucas starter in firing up a reluctant Herald :) Hello; someone called? :) --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 24 04:57:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408482D0769 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 04:57:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm6-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm6-vm0.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.210]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 116F12D0762 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 04:57:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.50] by nm6.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2012 10:57:54 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.236] by tm3.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2012 10:57:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2012 10:57:54 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 615855.29884.bm@omp1001.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 18833 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Apr 2012 10:57:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1335265074; bh=9RhLCj+OLCP1aX3jK8aU6oGpOeRDZkKQclR3gPh7/T4=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bWhIFUn5pxUL00XM3CQNUSaPV6pl32zePQJbLfuoeQmPp9O38sy6K8GglU9phHXZnv+o3w6etxemXv3D8wuWB7oFh+d4EsrYOKnz9cLl4EoRKqK7xk2RCxBM0kLICsPsrUmQAF/nj0ymnznDujC45RzfSwhIbdNry+mrn1Z5Ipw= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RW72u0FE9cbtTDXKi6zgjfoQxVh2tuDVeWc4/MvTZLch1uyIIXUJKBkdzBvaHguthgCL21wdtxOTOoGEQT9SCsVuCD9j3VuLPOgyFfAm5uI/AAwavbWcm1NLd9J5BNp8NZHWJ/mPUUo7Rw08XM+ViLiqCSC9h5yquvt+W9odtWM=; X-YMail-OSG: SAC_K5MVM1kHHQ99DVR2bWQcADsuyzPzejGVM3Cpf5lTCLv AP471kk.wBb1DaOWowKrK63KsoCedArtFwYkqYEAvq62kgQ627_gez5wl959 u4QjG8ZH4Ow_Rk7v2WTEV8BIR6WuHK8BnKR92w_l0OZa7yxZJyD39OlDm2GI dyZhZDmC9qNepp4H0_K9zt.orBxLIAj4nyIfUQvc9nFHljjwgtzXCR0vFdy. 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Received: from [75.8.78.11] by web28804.mail.ir2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:57:54 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 References: <002001cd2185$8a206c00$9e614400$@earthlink.net> <1335214489.75487.YahooMailNeo@web29401.mail.ird.yahoo.com> <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C16A1A0C9@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> Message-ID: <1335265074.17742.YahooMailNeo@web28804.mail.ir2.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 11:57:54 +0100 (BST) From: Larry Brouder To: Jonas Payne , 'John Macartney' , 'Tomislav Marincic' , "'triumphs@autox.team.net'" In-Reply-To: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C16A1A0C9@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] GT6+ X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Larry Brouder List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net That makes sense-mine must have spent an extra week or two on the lot during monsoon. My TR6 was perfect and dry, but the GT6 is in line for a lot of new metal. Thanks, gents. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 24 12:40:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A3312D05FC for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:40:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm3-vm0.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.136]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C1CE2D0441 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:30:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.201] by nm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2012 18:31:08 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.54] by tm12.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2012 18:31:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp107.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2012 18:31:08 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1335292268; bh=ndGV2T2BR6941p/RvxVzJJjEN/QeQGxTfQ4jC9xpnU0=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=kPF22jQqCc0B6hNgrZGzRYsOlOnGhJlVNJN8X1NtkzuJsYgnCV4Z8FHurDbBsLL2lu6g3kWzaKtY/feCZSZQtxr6OISbkB+UC9NPawsZ573x1QDn7XKTsBdeBFyWh760P4wHLWGGfg+yvkLj1G4z8zo4VBs0HVQxwyZc0MJCSrw= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 561924.56331.bm@smtp107.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Y2RCMhEVM1laLX21RBI0MpzxQvL7o.LcvxVn1yrNani0Xby 9qB2jSlkT.rmKdDPrkb9dLy9ZSsGOdj0hFGVEScWpsd25wZMNWENhL1TJe38 1R1A8LOpSW4qF78GwNyrnIHmSTyTuJzkit8aHmAQa51FSfkByKVnc4HOZSA9 9X1U6_FA4q2t0o2eOBh9myxSQfEWUPVp2XmcvB4GoRH8SqXpDOTCEjQ8J5EJ rSE9S0WY1cPTK4KihHWlg0McElgmHNMnGJozRQOeBmQo0GyWZr.uZ0NJ1nIn ODHbvlB_UCtce3uT8feZrcqtM37DZVrvt77tUI6w_pCYJWozUrotfQaZwYcL 7tiR4A9m6C8K8_EsgcmyW.EaXmvVWlY9qnaBRzLGGsGJIRfRO06Or_LV2WVO _JkWtXtxn6QK8l3EcCQ1uBfK9IMZSWWjfk0pe22mGfd8bIOEYUO.BHYGsT.K HY3x8BGK.ss.5vU1OfnZb82CiLT_YYDpBit1ciai.U2C2ai0Pdc_eh3Dhe8S yY8wP376URU7UVlWbROLSmU95NJAZ754- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp107.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2012 11:31:07 -0700 PDT From: To: Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:31:04 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac0iSGZLL9okGKV8QjqBjUacTckHgQ== Subject: [TR] TR3 Transmission shifting block X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Got a few hindered miles on the re-built transmission now, all went real good in the beginning just a little stiff but I guess that was to be expected. But now, I cannot downshift into 2nd gear which is a real problem when slowing down for a corner as I can't go on to first and third it too tall. Up shifting from a standing start works most of the time but any small mis-step and 2nd gear is denied me. During the re-build everything looked real good and all we did was replace the syncros and found one detent spring & ball missing. Suggestions? Thanks, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS30766L "Tarbaby" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "Hello, my name is Bill and I own an old British car. Now...What are the next 11 steps?" ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 24 13:10:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F48E2D0699 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:10:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEFA02D0425 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:04:34 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=bLSU0YCZ c=1 sm=0 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:17 a=gW9qi44zxCkA:10 a=hgnldp8hCucA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=AiKrz5JTFR94jcz4BOIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iMoyTtzuBmCwh8BMLBhhUw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 66.127.147.4 Received: from [66.127.147.4] ([66.127.147.4:8404] helo=ryoung2wna) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 45/B2-29249-D59F69F4; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:05:02 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:04:58 -0700 Message-ID: <010501cd224d$2561e050$7025a0f0$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac0iSGZLL9okGKV8QjqBjUacTckHgQABG0nw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Transmission shifting block X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > During the re-build everything looked real good and all we did was > replace > the syncros and found one detent spring & ball missing. So all the interlock bits (two balls and a pin) are in place? Did you measure the force to move the shift rings on the hubs? Any chance you got some of the bad synchro rings that were making the rounds a few years ago? What are you using for lube? Might be worth trying some MT-90 if you aren't already, as it seems to really improve shift action. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 24 13:59:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0192D2D06A3 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:59:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFFFA2D0416 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:57:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.73]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 1uQX1j0011afHeLA1vyKPX; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:58:19 +0000 Received: from [10.233.109.107] ([174.253.90.0]) by omta17.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 1vy21j00y00TcSN8dvy736; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:58:17 +0000 To: "=?utf-8?B?QW5kcmV3IFMuIE1hY2U=?=" , flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk, triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:58:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?RAF_Honeybourne_-_the_open_air_showroom!!!?= X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Message-Id: <20120424195946.0192D2D06A3@autox.team.net> Conceive of Lucas phones. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Andrew S. Mace" To: , Subject: [TR] RAF Honeybourne - the open air showroom!!! Date: Mon, Apr 23, 2012 21:47 John wrote: >Certainly faster >than a Lucas starter in firing up a reluctant Herald :) Hello; someone called? :) --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spook01@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 24 14:46:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6410C2D05D8 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:46:38 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.truedefense.com (mail05.truedefense.com [216.69.224.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD592D03DD for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:43:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from otnoex2.onthenetoffice.com ([172.16.8.9]) by mail05.truedefense.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q3OKhujA085604; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:43:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from JPayne@ThorCon.net) Received: from otnoex0.onthenetoffice.com ([172.16.8.4]) by otnoex2.onthenetoffice.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:43:56 -0700 Received: from EX1HTS01.onthenetoffice.com ([172.16.8.31]) by otnoex0.onthenetoffice.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:43:56 -0700 Received: from EX1HTS02.onthenetoffice.com (172.16.8.32) by ex1hts01.onthenetoffice.com (172.16.8.31) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.2.247.3; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:43:55 -0700 Received: from EX1MBX01.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::f9f4:b916:4b54:5534]) by ex1hts02.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::3d16:45b2:983f:f8d%12]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:43:56 -0700 From: Jonas Payne To: "'Randall'" , "'triumphs@autox.team.net'" Thread-Topic: [TR] TR3 Transmission shifting block Thread-Index: Ac0iSGZLL9okGKV8QjqBjUacTckHgQABG0nwAAOFmJA= Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 20:43:55 +0000 Message-ID: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C174726B6@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> References: <010501cd224d$2561e050$7025a0f0$@rr.com> In-Reply-To: <010501cd224d$2561e050$7025a0f0$@rr.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [172.16.12.67] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Apr 2012 20:43:56.0511 (UTC) FILETIME=[F7E6C6F0:01CD225A] Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Transmission shifting block X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net What are the symptoms of the bad synchro rings? Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Randall Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 12:05 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Transmission shifting block > During the re-build everything looked real good and all we did was > replace the syncros and found one detent spring & ball missing. So all the interlock bits (two balls and a pin) are in place? Did you measure the force to move the shift rings on the hubs? Any chance you got some of the bad synchro rings that were making the rounds a few years ago? What are you using for lube? Might be worth trying some MT-90 if you aren't already, as it seems to really improve shift action. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jpayne@thorcon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 24 15:18:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9D2A2D05E1 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:18:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C392D047B for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:18:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=bLSU0YCZ c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=hgnldp8hCucA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=97ZMybVEwx6aFuKDyM0A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 2C/CC-29249-8B8179F4; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 21:18:48 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Jonas Payne'" , References: <010501cd224d$2561e050$7025a0f0$@rr.com> <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C174726B6@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:18:48 -0700 Message-ID: <00ab01cd225f$d72d7350$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C174726B6@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> Thread-Index: Ac0iSGZLL9okGKV8QjqBjUacTckHgQABG0nwAAOFmJAAAQsCIA== Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Transmission shifting block X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > What are the symptoms of the bad synchro rings? Just generally poor synchro action, AFAIK. I was fortunate enough to avoid the experience myself. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 24 15:35:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C02C2D0692 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:35:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.truedefense.com (mail05.truedefense.com [216.69.224.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A043A2D0425 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:29:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from otnoex2.onthenetoffice.com ([172.16.8.9]) by mail05.truedefense.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q3OLTbHN088364; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:29:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from JPayne@ThorCon.net) Received: from otnoex0.onthenetoffice.com ([172.16.8.4]) by otnoex2.onthenetoffice.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:29:37 -0700 Received: from EX1HTS01.onthenetoffice.com ([172.16.8.31]) by otnoex0.onthenetoffice.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:29:37 -0700 Received: from EX1MBX01.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::f9f4:b916:4b54:5534]) by ex1hts01.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::dcca:855d:bb32:dc3f%12]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 14:29:36 -0700 From: Jonas Payne To: "'Randall'" , "'triumphs@autox.team.net'" Thread-Topic: [TR] TR3 Transmission shifting block Thread-Index: Ac0iSGZLL9okGKV8QjqBjUacTckHgQABG0nwAAOFmJAAAQsCIAAAd5yQ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 21:29:35 +0000 Message-ID: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C174737A9@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> References: <010501cd224d$2561e050$7025a0f0$@rr.com> <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C174726B6@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> <00ab01cd225f$d72d7350$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <00ab01cd225f$d72d7350$0601a8c0@randall> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [172.16.12.67] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Apr 2012 21:29:37.0152 (UTC) FILETIME=[59736800:01CD2261] Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Transmission shifting block X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'm still trying to chase down the "tapping" noise in my rebuilt TR4 trans with OD in my TR3 and am pulling my hair out trying to find the source. It only occurs under load, and is directly related to engine rpm, showing up at between 2500 and 4500 RPM I think we have it narrowed to the OD unit, which was not rebuilt, but nobody seems to have had any experience with an OD making this particular noise. Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 24 15:53:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2A9F2D0446 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:53:01 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm19.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm19.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B9EB2D0437 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 15:52:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.127] by nm19.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2012 21:53:01 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.55] by tm2.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2012 21:53:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp108.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2012 21:53:01 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1335304381; bh=aWlXYCJbDJOVIWykYNqwio93uE2JI1wCilT6N2j70pQ=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=zzTdirC19Pr77VW6ABts6aOZtHNSwCU2SawG4XFRSD3U0vfp0WSYNqPhdeoymTQs1gDwDDe9Gkwm8UufSU3xSIFSBGlCAFtp6btuXB+rpqNuZNZRzeXntU0OBazONElFLFuk5Us/w8LbqP6i8Y9xSFbmKRmAC2CUoyHod7DVzaY= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 451362.72985.bm@smtp108.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Ee2Vx3oVM1k2EmeXkNs.sMAfs8nEBaPexBBWMFye.uAmqNE IrciQ_lqIjqS8TmlXn.F_Vp0wrywaXcsuRrU6PBxA1oRX8SY8ACmiLeQiDLH s6kiTr1RHVwf4NMKuXpLsFb5pZsSGmrsFC26seb3Cnl2cKLIJq5s.MhG1kB5 Psb.OD.JCKaDzI8bi.D1oKkQlnYu5tK7znDKtEchBy1zOrBE7UAiWlt62v_Q zAb79UgX3kq7E_tT90_sOusBoBcQ8tQoEpWCy2QPcIkzfgBc1ycStDJkk_9i FmgSistsNSlDghTlQjl2r3jXUf3I5MoEmE_vQoGp5Oqwn1dvV2JhULMe8.sr U1nP2T37XUmw869N4GsNOxmsxcPSh88EQNdhJP6VF_FHjN6DJqSoTJC620ZY 8YHWsRwEsdUZ.SgI384XGDZAAbuEMB8GfaE3kWMK6P_Yylz_xLUTj_rm6InA pM0KDtFMlJzithYcNltSLctTJcVPnlo0x57i2OSj09f6J6TatS3ea4gIxGT9 TqmwEYA-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from [10.129.37.118] (wbeech@166.188.72.83 with plain) by smtp108.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2012 14:52:59 -0700 PDT References: <010501cd224d$2561e050$7025a0f0$@rr.com> <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C174726B6@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> In-Reply-To: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C174726B6@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: From: Wbeech Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 16:52:33 -0500 To: Jonas Payne X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B176) Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , Randall Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Transmission shifting block X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Syncro rings are just a few months old from TRF. Did not measure the shift ring pressure. I am using Sta-Lube GL4 85-90, which is what I have used for the past three years. I am wondering if a fork may have slipped on the rod, we did replace the O-rings. The only prior complaint was some grinding downshifting to 3rd at speed. Sent from mobile Bill On Apr 24, 2012, at 3:43 PM, Jonas Payne wrote: > What are the symptoms of the bad synchro rings? > > > Jonas Payne > PBR > Cell: (702) 358-5084 > > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] > On Behalf Of Randall > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 12:05 PM > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Transmission shifting block > >> During the re-build everything looked real good and all we did was >> replace the syncros and found one detent spring & ball missing. > > So all the interlock bits (two balls and a pin) are in place? > > Did you measure the force to move the shift rings on the hubs? > > Any chance you got some of the bad synchro rings that were making the rounds a > few years ago? > > What are you using for lube? Might be worth trying some MT-90 if you aren't > already, as it seems to really improve shift action. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jpayne@thorcon.net > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 24 16:23:03 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA762D05D8 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 16:23:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout16.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout16.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.129]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1758E2D041B for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 16:12:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan04.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.4] helo=mailscan04.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout16.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1SMnyn-00069S-PD for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:13:01 -0400 Received: from impout01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.1] helo=impout01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan04.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1SMnyn-0000dA-1y; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:13:01 -0400 Received: from webmail05.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.16.5]) by impout01.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id 1yD11j00506ZD2201yD1QF; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:13:01 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=aoEw+FlV c=1 sm=1 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=Q7zus9ReCAYA:10 a=hgnldp8hCucA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=uneVThEcNb6Dyh5E4xcA:9 a=HvHuo9E3eSarLrIeZDYA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=T-yHfCZAEjkA:10 a=Cnyi6cy_wJYA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=QcFxcOnyDiYA:10 a=VvFq4pgRw0hsDbru1LvkIw==:117 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.16.5 X-EN-IMPSID: 1yD11j00506ZD2201yD1QF Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=email.accountsupport.com) by webmail05.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1SMnyR-0003gV-Hc; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:12:39 -0400 Received: from 69.180.140.196 (SquirrelMail authenticated user greg@gelhar.com) by email.accountsupport.com with HTTP; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:12:39 -0400 Message-ID: <3abda757948dde6585e41b78ba953d17.squirrel@email.accountsupport.com> In-Reply-To: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C174737A9@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> References: <010501cd224d$2561e050$7025a0f0$@rr.com> <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C174726B6@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> <00ab01cd225f$d72d7350$0601a8c0@randall> <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C174737A9@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:12:39 -0400 From: greg@gelhar.com To: "Jonas Payne" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "'triumphs@autox.team.net'" , 'Randall' Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Transmission shifting block X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Here's a thought. Have you checked for the noise with the inspection cover removed? It is the half moon shaped cover at the bottom of the bell housing. If it is installed the wrong way around, there can be a light interference with the bolts used to mount the ring gear onto the flywheel. Greg G. Osseo, MN > I'm still trying to chase down the "tapping" noise in my rebuilt TR4 trans > with OD in my TR3 and am pulling my hair out trying to find the source. > > It only occurs under load, and is directly related to engine rpm, showing > up > at between 2500 and 4500 RPM > > I think we have it narrowed to the OD unit, which was not rebuilt, but > nobody > seems to have had any experience with an OD making this particular noise. > > > Jonas Payne > PBR > Cell: (702) 358-5084 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/greg@gelhar.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 24 18:44:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2D512D05CB for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:44:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f173.google.com (mail-wi0-f173.google.com [209.85.212.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF49C2D0484 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:40:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wibhq7 with SMTP id hq7so3722413wib.2 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:40:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=2LhIM2AHZ5PAUROvTTfQUKdpxswLvA2EOatZAR6mUm4=; b=VpqWWE7D6cqckhEJ4CAgKZf9shmlxACgNkF1WikTYCRnAzghAULRunpRerq8sezBkP 5eG5EG6lkOOwiMZHyY9RMnFhp9QEXKXkmRzfiv9rI7Ct92Hl6GSVzp5SXQhlPs6abdVW nvZsMx6vDOOskzcFMEjZjCex7Qx01M4SM9OMegx8esdDyZbKpMYwAvz1ZtCznX8YkCLX xNQjSykH4hUI5yJ5i3a09qiCsiZE1z4MI0BQBwGGk3edO0a+Mo/sMxjowYJTOh5ZMAR4 jgWoztABFMM9ZKwlsKvcV2vF3RU1hTuP96Lvm3QcTdaE0MtVsZb3GFq8VshamF+GE0jk TpdA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.88.199 with SMTP id bi7mr1448513wib.12.1335314451549; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.138.224 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.138.224 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 17:40:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 20:40:49 -0400 Message-ID: From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Pics from my inaugural TR2 Trip X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Please excuse the gratuitous tr2 pics. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/x06qrfs3ic8tnv2/ZQAnvSYW1U/2012%20Gathering https://skydrive.live.com/redir.aspx?cid=59aaa6c6fbc78f4f&resid=59AAA6C6FBC78F4F%21350&parid=59AAA6C6FBC78F4F%21211&authkey=%21ABhTW4HFI5g0vuo all in all it was a very good show and quite fun. We ran hotter than I'd like on the way home, but I think there is a 195 degree Tstat in it.... so it might not have been that big a deal. The car did ok in the autocross - the one hard run I made did not count as we had a timer malfunction - but I was quite happy with the run. Still much to do - but the car is already fun!!! Take care, Chris ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 24 19:20:27 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3283B2D06A3 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:20:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com (mail-we0-f169.google.com [74.125.82.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8CA2D0484 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:20:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by werj55 with SMTP id j55so1183695wer.14 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:20:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=taXZiXyrvi4VtQh6rdFYUKhhp7rs5JAbw59TXnRBFBk=; b=JV74hxPqKRpZzBB2Jnv5FYt7/ImD44OhQmztsAvrORJ7tkib+5QqcxmcodmA7koxRF H2RNf6fMBgxRtx+/eTSsJws7iUFZYS0YobAxlTcx2Pypcgj0uKG1oCz355uRvjNTCQ+8 RJP1QXQAoqKwb9f373vSLYfE4hCWi9UjzKoChZ30URFzzcWh6AuvbxTat90bI1eNhlIx DSFY1F+nYansIMIoYN6VQj22C6yq7/Xn8UWyaDNG9fumcWy278UJ/mcBnIyAxhu9uQ0u f+qGD0EvnVKEmXpjSmmNWOrzVf/ppnQM//0D3fnrqOYvDErZbVQWb2jrXi7ekNgNFPdc fR+w== Received: by 10.216.135.199 with SMTP id u49mr451976wei.7.1335316834033; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:20:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.138.224 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:20:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8CE55DAB26F4279-101C-98EE6@webmail-d135.sysops.aol.com> References: <4E935624.17443.28C3D33A@localhost> <8CE55DAB26F4279-101C-98EE6@webmail-d135.sysops.aol.com> From: Chris Simo Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 21:20:13 -0400 Message-ID: To: "Andrew S. Mace" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] clutch bleeding X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I just put a new master cylinder and at the same time put the morgan rear brake cylinders on the car. I saw in this thread the use of a stick and the seat to be the "pusher". I had a piece of 1/4 cabinet grade plywood 2.5 inches wide and used that between the brake pedal and the steering wheel to bleed the brakes - it accepts a good bend without breaking. I have a good hard pedal without an ill word to my better half!!! Love this list! On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Andrew S. Mace wrote: > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jim Muller > > > I know I'm late to this conversation but I'll toss in my experience > anyway. I've always bled my clutch in situ, not on the bench. In > fact, it would be difficult to install a GT6 or Spitfire SC with the > line attached. > > ==AM== > Funny you should mention that, Jim, 'cause I did exactly that once, many > years > ago. I was trying to > track down a clutch problem with an early Spitfire 4 and thought it might > be > related to the hydraulics. > At the time, I had a Herald that had recently been sidelined (after contact > with a Plymouth that ran a > red light). I pulled the clutch master and slave out of the Herald, still > connected to each other, and > tried it in the Spitfire. Being basically the same architecture, it fit > perfectly and wasn't that hard to do. > Unfortunately, it wasn't the problem, but.... :) > > --Andy Mace > > > triumphs@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ccsimonsen@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 24 19:47:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8735A2D06A9 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:47:58 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9E7B2D04E4 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 19:43:19 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=mVNuR+k3rUI1l19hNH88EhgzNjlS06Cf1/b2oh07QSpUTqeYfs0MZiuHnKOkq+qh; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [69.81.21.129] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1SMrGh-00005e-66 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 21:43:43 -0400 Message-ID: <4F9756D0.6070104@rmi.net> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 20:43:44 -0500 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120319 Thunderbird/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-ELNK-Trace: 007d46394eab33d9f572e6f2f007804157e777f9dccd9a58bab6f2e92ecfa6b2350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.81.21.129 Subject: [TR] SU Carbs X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I am trying to adjust the dual HS4s on my 80 Spitfire. I adjusted the carbs to the recommended starting point to try to get a fresh run at adjusting them. Turned the jets down 12 flats (2 turns) and then turned the throttle screw down 1 1/2 turns after it just came into contact with the lever. I noticed that the throttle screws were not in contact with the lever when I started. When I started the car it was running about 2600 rpm. When I got it back down to close to 1,000 rpm, it looks like the throttle screws were no longer touching the levers. Choke seems to be off, the fast idle screws are not touching. I rebuilt the carbs about 4 years ago. I did not take them off, but it looks like the butterfly is closing well. Any suggestions on what to look at, before I take the carbs off to inspect the butterfly more closely? I have adjusted the valves, and timing. Thanks, Roger Elliott ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 24 21:24:57 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA8C02D06DA for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 21:24:57 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm11-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm11-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.141]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 28D042D03DF for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 21:19:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Apr 2012 03:19:59 -0000 Received: from [68.142.200.221] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Apr 2012 03:19:59 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.109] by t9.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Apr 2012 03:19:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1014.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 25 Apr 2012 03:19:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 367948.62114.bm@omp1014.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 78021 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2012 03:19:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To; b=v4qbpb8+rKu5hkUhuWjJjSdP5qWKW0yV6hqP4EQgtPkRQApet4WrCZ+VS/kmkqxbA7XMiGGftZYO3QA2E+Q/Dds4+Y7CU0UZDX26itI0Qbh82zPSLa7dFH5SY/3NKbcVxHg1Vq9U7yjAZJRQapEktYwcmkfAwJTG3V6QGc2lc+I= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1335323999; bh=zl5z2t8SfND/aNHT4pxR0DYPqg11NokNrQKSfm0cAlQ=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To; b=4dGuCLUSKHH5Dcli/MqOImdXZnphPqj/tp/1cl2+lmH5wX1JyzfzyqFYZ0AJq6ctvC/1h4CgpPPrcvazCVRdA8szxb5tJ5s5Ff5kURn/8hbej6mOj+E1BTCN8G3kjzyRcFB2qw7athdwjCDvrFJkdx42Nq+xkFadaexiXDWDQ6s= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: OPfcJSUVM1mvpR4c3e.Xdd9kzVloeAKqmTtk5M7MBK3bJr6 5XvXDY6JBpxZ3Ind37LnpFyXg7O5Ltj4udnNKOgsT85c1gLy2USNE4JkRaBF bgylaH40dB_vYRQDjAIFhvV8qwB_eva5ZVuHQMqK7MMTYsTjElwmYV_4zBLZ ne8geTqF0T7UqnLjA7DHAp.6loGLIyEbp9TnHUuocR4Qy7o0LZ2zZHz9rE3I YBLgMXoMLi8NdtLUef_QjOp..g50yHXhR8DQ6lfphsmciipWjFZNv1fdIFcC GkmmjnLtLNtjmIMQ4CPnOHmgjzhM0mmdSx2lz._JF3at.lfMhXD.v0m3xsol OSfwORisK4kXsDbkBsq1bZaPu1x6.Eo8QhrIFLRTSszKSiu1vl8wP8SyITDU L2LvlS6ImfcqEV7hLcAQl7nxcBJ5YxLs7NLzgBYHxXHiLz8DgBaxo0vCVvVx kuUUR4SczssFNqk5k.9ZGa4t6dKamq_4A X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp109.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2012 20:19:59 -0700 PDT From: To: "'Roger Elliott'" , References: <4F9756D0.6070104@rmi.net> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 22:19:59 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac0ihZF1J6dJVL3UTyOHCbw6HjhbEwAC/fYw In-Reply-To: <4F9756D0.6070104@rmi.net> Subject: Re: [TR] SU Carbs X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Roger, Run the mixture nuts back up 1 turn(six flats). Check the linkage to be sure it is not hanging up somewhere, then check the butterflys. Manually reach down and be sure the jets are pulled up all the way, these can become sticky with long periods of sitting. Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roger Elliott Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 8:44 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] SU Carbs Hi, I am trying to adjust the dual HS4s on my 80 Spitfire. I adjusted the carbs to the recommended starting point to try to get a fresh run at adjusting them. Turned the jets down 12 flats (2 turns) and then turned the throttle screw down 1 1/2 turns after it just came into contact with the lever. I noticed that the throttle screws were not in contact with the lever when I started. When I started the car it was running about 2600 rpm. When I got it back down to close to 1,000 rpm, it looks like the throttle screws were no longer touching the levers. Choke seems to be off, the fast idle screws are not touching. I rebuilt the carbs about 4 years ago. I did not take them off, but it looks like the butterfly is closing well. Any suggestions on what to look at, before I take the carbs off to inspect the butterfly more closely? I have adjusted the valves, and timing. Thanks, Roger Elliott ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Apr 24 23:38:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4992D075F for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 23:38:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from omr7.networksolutionsemail.com (omr7.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.57]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E422D03A2 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2012 23:22:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from cm-omr9 (mail.networksolutionsemail.com [205.178.146.50]) by omr7.networksolutionsemail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q3P5Ml5I024759 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 01:22:48 -0400 X-Authenticated-IP: 173.61.36.129 Received: from [173.61.36.129] ([173.61.36.129:56748] helo=pistol) by cm-omr9 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.41 r(31179/31189)) with ESMTP id A1/B7-19853-72A879F4; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 01:22:47 -0400 Message-ID: <0868390314454055B1418305B3F4BAF0@pistol> From: "Jeff Nathanson" To: References: <4F9756D0.6070104@rmi.net> In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 01:22:48 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR6 Alternator conversion X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net First, I apologize for bringing up a topic that has been discussed many times. But, the alternator in my '72 TR6 needs replacement for obvious reasons. The output is not enough at idle and the wires (I have a 5-wire connection) and it needs replacement. Dan Master's excellent book explains several different wiring options in detail. He recommends to use the GM alternator. Others recommend to use a remanufactured '78 Ford Fiesta Bosch alternator w/55A which gives almost a bolt-on replacement. And I can use Dan's wiring schematics for the electrical hookup. My main problem is locating the Fiesta alternator. Does anyone have a specific source for this Bosch alternator with fan and pulley? I spent hours trying to locate one that is remanufactured, carrying some sort of warranty. But, I have not yet found suppliers, like AutoZone, Summit, NAPA nor Pep Boys. I don't want to search at junk yards. Does anyone have any recommendations? Thanking in advance, Jeff N. '72 TR6 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 25 01:25:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F232D075C for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 01:25:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7914B2D0416 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 01:24:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=bLSU0YCZ c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=4yGhaVbrAAAA:20 a=qWU8rwIFx2CaHNINMygA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55003] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 38/B8-29249-DC6A79F4; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 07:25:01 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Jeff Nathanson'" , References: <4F9756D0.6070104@rmi.net> <0868390314454055B1418305B3F4BAF0@pistol> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 00:25:01 -0700 Message-ID: <014a01cd22b4$872f3cd0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <0868390314454055B1418305B3F4BAF0@pistol> Thread-Index: Ac0ipcolbdXUMsjaTNOGPI+XT/q7BAADjlrA Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Alternator conversion X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Oddly enough, my usual sources don't list it any more. Maybe the rebuilders quit doing them for some reason? However, I believe this is a Delco equivalent: http://tinyurl.com/6rt5dkm (As noted, you may have to move over the pulley from your Lucas) But since you are going to have to modify your 5-wire hookup anyway, going with a more common alternator might be the best idea. That way you'll get a bolted main connection (I don't trust those quick connects at high currents, seen too many of them get hot and fail), and replacements available at any corner FLAPS. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 25 01:42:05 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A4712D0764 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 01:42:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com (mail-wi0-f179.google.com [209.85.212.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B742D073C for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 01:41:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wibhn6 with SMTP id hn6so1235338wib.2 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 00:42:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=J49sTCUcuxO5/KK7sBi4eLmEulKTKgeFZTAvPXEQ7oM=; b=R4jwi5Ko39TgQwhdYuqTlCaWMYstcvQwCNeeJzlsHaG1fwihndO/SiX6E8lXrFpc9U /R3NbN++aujlnC6OqmC5BD1uzUEm5EQximHtSgpax5CJZKhDon8Jo1yV+5lv22dsre1D M3sZkVLASZymgy1m8e/y4xnXtchglMqZC+zzO/cbFr0i4mUPjqY84BrkT5jxppPktgoo 7hSf6y5H2VVeheJhtvd7gjWvHdvl9756MyGFAgg7q9BU9wEHxwm4SuL4KiPy+cQxDpnq NTQ0AGjS0un4skeFmeXI9ptOagTD/MChee4z/uEI+efGUWQzJd5ugoKadjyNuBmMDXiS wI1g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.107.101 with SMTP id hb5mr4042807wib.7.1335339732434; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 00:42:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.132.33 with HTTP; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 00:42:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [86.23.98.255] In-Reply-To: <014a01cd22b4$872f3cd0$0601a8c0@randall> References: <4F9756D0.6070104@rmi.net> <0868390314454055B1418305B3F4BAF0@pistol> <014a01cd22b4$872f3cd0$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 08:42:12 +0100 Message-ID: From: ADRIAN DIX-DYER To: Randall X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl1u6qma/Nx5b5MK01Hi2ymlV8D13SSR08qjZkkg4F2ncqKNegFMsOUOZKjxHHAK9eb6en7 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Alternator conversion X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Maybe spread your search to UK and Europe. Fiestas using the alternator unit you require were sold by the millions over here. Recon units sell for about the equivalent of $120ish. Ebay UK list lots and lots of them. Shipping may be expensive. Adrian TR4A CT64306 O (Ex Tennessee) Wales UK On 25 April 2012 08:25, Randall wrote: > Oddly enough, my usual sources don't list it any more. Maybe the > rebuilders > quit doing them for some reason? > > However, I believe this is a Delco equivalent: > http://tinyurl.com/6rt5dkm > (As noted, you may have to move over the pulley from your Lucas) > > But since you are going to have to modify your 5-wire hookup anyway, going > with a more common alternator might be the best idea. That way you'll get > a > bolted main connection (I don't trust those quick connects at high > currents, > seen too many of them get hot and fail), and replacements available at any > corner FLAPS. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dixie4.wales@virgin.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 25 05:38:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31D62D03E9 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 05:38:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.enterhost.com (mail05.enterhost.com [208.65.128.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 847192D02B1 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 05:36:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 99-187-242-14.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.187.242.14] by mail05.enterhost.com with SMTP; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 06:36:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: "G.D. Huggins" In-Reply-To: <4F9756D0.6070104@rmi.net> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 06:36:39 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4F9756D0.6070104@rmi.net> To: Roger Elliott X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] SU Carbs X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Roger, I just spent last week adjusting my carbs; exploring the relationships between timing, idle and mixture. I have HS6's, but those are similar to the HS4s. I basically had the same issue as you with the throttle screws barely touching the plates, and the engine idling higher than it ought. So I got the mixture set, which had a small impact on the idle, but not much, with it still idling around 1000 rpm. So, I retarded the timing a bit to tame the idle, but not too much to cause a loss of power, overheating, etc. I learned that you can retard the timing too much, and the car just will not respond to throttle under load. The exhaust gasses can also get very hot (because they are not burning up all the way in the cylinder) and overheat the exhaust system. The point is to find the correct tuning balance between timing, idle and mixture. On Apr 24, 2012, at 8:43 PM, Roger Elliott wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to adjust the dual HS4s on my 80 Spitfire. I adjusted the carbs to the recommended starting point to try to get a fresh run at adjusting them. > > Turned the jets down 12 flats (2 turns) and then turned the throttle screw down 1 1/2 turns after it just came into contact with the lever. I noticed that the throttle screws were not in contact with the lever when I started. > > When I started the car it was running about 2600 rpm. When I got it back down to close to 1,000 rpm, it looks like the throttle screws were no longer touching the levers. Choke seems to be off, the fast idle screws are not touching. I rebuilt the carbs about 4 years ago. > > I did not take them off, but it looks like the butterfly is closing well. > > Any suggestions on what to look at, before I take the carbs off to inspect the butterfly more closely? > > I have adjusted the valves, and timing. > > Thanks, > Roger Elliott > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/guy@genfiniti.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 25 05:58:10 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCA692D0767 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 05:58:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC6E2D05D8 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 05:57:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120425115809.ZUHE12025.mta21.charter.net@imp11>; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 07:58:09 -0400 Received: from Alan ([97.81.202.173]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id 2By81j00H3kyhXD05By9kq; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 07:58:09 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=rvNqJbVGdbt4egs52VbhtoJZG7AoPDG9H2iogr/sNfs= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=+kB/tzUWT5WKKx+Tmaxg3g==:17 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=208NPrHEAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=4yGhaVbrAAAA:20 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=YAl86nvWFqOMzMkAc5AA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=DrMuZHvr_ukA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=+kB/tzUWT5WKKx+Tmaxg3g==:117 Message-ID: <8D778CD3216946C989FF3D6C8265866F@Alan> From: "Al Salvatore" To: "Randall" , "'Jeff Nathanson'" , References: <4F9756D0.6070104@rmi.net><0868390314454055B1418305B3F4BAF0@pistol> <014a01cd22b4$872f3cd0$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 07:58:18 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Alternator conversion X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The Delco unit looks exactly like the Bosche unit. Al ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randall" To: "'Jeff Nathanson'" ; Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 3:25 AM Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Alternator conversion > Oddly enough, my usual sources don't list it any more. Maybe the > rebuilders > quit doing them for some reason? > > However, I believe this is a Delco equivalent: > http://tinyurl.com/6rt5dkm > (As noted, you may have to move over the pulley from your Lucas) > > But since you are going to have to modify your 5-wire hookup anyway, going > with a more common alternator might be the best idea. That way you'll get > a > bolted main connection (I don't trust those quick connects at high > currents, > seen too many of them get hot and fail), and replacements available at any > corner FLAPS. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tr6parts@charter.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 25 06:11:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F039D2D0767 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 06:11:01 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719032D03E0 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 06:03:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=bLSU0YCZ c=1 sm=0 a=tlytdczlYL08dMdRJ1opsQ==:17 a=c7HclPYBVJoA:10 a=L3wTuZvSmb0A:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=Xqa2vQI8AAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=Dun9RAXv9_-f_AsXLaoA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=9X_zMSMRwuAA:10 a=tlytdczlYL08dMdRJ1opsQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 74.78.254.155 Received: from [74.78.254.155] ([74.78.254.155:45714] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 48/46-29249-428E79F4; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 12:03:49 +0000 Message-ID: <4F97E814.6050009@adelphia.net> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 08:03:32 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.28) Gecko/20120313 Thunderbird/3.1.20 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jeff Nathanson References: <4F9756D0.6070104@rmi.net> <0868390314454055B1418305B3F4BAF0@pistol> In-Reply-To: <0868390314454055B1418305B3F4BAF0@pistol> Cc: Triumphs List Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Alternator conversion X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Jeff, You might want to drop Triumph Rescue a email. Matt also specializes in wiring and they used to have the TR6 alternator project on their website. http://www.triumphrescue.com/ I couldnt find the TR6 alternator project on their website, but an email might get you the information you need. Bob On 04/25/2012 01:22 AM, Jeff Nathanson wrote: > First, I apologize for bringing up a topic that has been discussed many times. > But, the alternator in my '72 TR6 needs replacement for obvious reasons. The > output is not enough at idle and the wires (I have a 5-wire connection) and it > needs replacement. Dan Master's excellent book explains several different > wiring options in detail. He recommends to use the GM alternator. Others > recommend to use a remanufactured '78 Ford Fiesta Bosch alternator w/55A which > gives almost a bolt-on replacement. And I can use Dan's wiring schematics for > the electrical hookup. My main problem is locating the Fiesta alternator. Does > anyone have a specific source for this Bosch alternator with fan and pulley? I > spent hours trying to locate one that is remanufactured, carrying some sort of > warranty. But, I have not yet found suppliers, like AutoZone, Summit, NAPA nor > Pep Boys. I don't want to search at junk yards. Does anyone have any > recommendations? > > Thanking in advance, > Jeff N. > '72 TR6 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr@adelphia.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 25 15:48:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E0B2D077C for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 15:48:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9AAF2D066E for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 15:47:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.19]) by qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2Mhv1j0050QkzPwA7Mo16k; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 21:48:01 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.70] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2Mnz1j0064L5TyG8NMo17T; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 21:48:01 +0000 Message-Id: <3B4A7248-32DF-47FF-9917-D9322431DB0A@comcast.net> From: Bud Rolofson To: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 15:47:59 -0600 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) Cc: 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR6 Idle adjustment fix X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The idle on my 6 has been a bit high (10-12k) since installing Joe Alexander's velocity stacks (the engine likes more air at Denver's altitude) but when I tried to cut the idle back I realized the spring on the idle screws (ZS 175s) had become compressed and I couldn't let the screw out enough to lower the idle speed without losing the tension that holds it in place. So I removed the screw and spring and stretched the spring just a bit (from 0.376 to 0.418 in.) and was able to get the idle to come closer to the 850-900 range once I could let the screw out and could still keep enough tension so it wouldn't rattle loose. You'd think changing idle speed would be a simple thing but you learn something new everyday with these cars. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 66TR4A CTC57806 (The Wreck-Almost parts) 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 25 21:05:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C182D078A for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 21:05:51 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2789A2D048F for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 21:05:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Toms ([unknown] [72.95.41.107]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0M3200M34GL5VLW2@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:05:30 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <8CB10C3045ED4AC99076915BB5FC3C37@Toms> From: "Tom Note" To: "Jeff Nathanson" , References: <4F9756D0.6070104@rmi.net> <0868390314454055B1418305B3F4BAF0@pistol> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 23:05:25 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Alternator conversion X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Jeff: The Bosch alternator should be available thru Rock Auto Parts. (rockauto.com). It's Bosch P/N 13107, 55A, and was available on the fiestas that had A/C. Price was IIRC under $60. Usually, it will come with the pulley, but sometimes their stock does not have one, but it's available thru. Jegs,e.g. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Nathanson" To: Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 1:22 AM Subject: [TR] TR6 Alternator conversion > First, I apologize for bringing up a topic that has been discussed many > times. > But, the alternator in my '72 TR6 needs replacement for obvious reasons. > The > output is not enough at idle and the wires (I have a 5-wire connection) > and it > needs replacement. Dan Master's excellent book explains several different > wiring options in detail. He recommends to use the GM alternator. Others > recommend to use a remanufactured '78 Ford Fiesta Bosch alternator w/55A > which > gives almost a bolt-on replacement. And I can use Dan's wiring schematics > for > the electrical hookup. My main problem is locating the Fiesta alternator. > Does > anyone have a specific source for this Bosch alternator with fan and > pulley? I > spent hours trying to locate one that is remanufactured, carrying some > sort of > warranty. But, I have not yet found suppliers, like AutoZone, Summit, NAPA > nor > Pep Boys. I don't want to search at junk yards. Does anyone have any > recommendations? > > Thanking in advance, > Jeff N. > '72 TR6 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tom628@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 25 21:16:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1313D2D033D for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 21:16:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1809E2D07A2 for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 21:16:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=bLSU0YCZ c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=TuJJO9NnAAAA:8 a=A2VD1DE3-UT1knW6NioA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Zpyngt4__MkA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 70/87-29249-81EB89F4; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 03:16:40 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: <4F9756D0.6070104@rmi.net><0868390314454055B1418305B3F4BAF0@pistol> <8CB10C3045ED4AC99076915BB5FC3C37@Toms> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:16:40 -0700 Message-ID: <02c901cd235a$fff4bb30$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <8CB10C3045ED4AC99076915BB5FC3C37@Toms> Thread-Index: Ac0jWZAVeoUbaf3hTNCWLNeLJcFYsAAAUoOg Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Alternator conversion X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Jeff: The Bosch alternator should be available thru Rock Auto Parts. > (rockauto.com). That was the first place I looked. They used to list it, now they don't. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Apr 25 22:35:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E442D078D for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:35:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 422302D077C for ; Wed, 25 Apr 2012 22:31:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.69]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q3Q4W1tE021297; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:32:01 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.2] (ip72-213-139-102.ok.ok.cox.net [72.213.139.102]) by mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id D0F0AE0000B1; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 00:32:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Clark Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 23:32:00 -0500 Message-Id: To: triumphs@autox.team.net, jeffn@msystech.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1335414721; bh=S9lPK1blFlj6IOFkZFzEpcmHlReyZkLWP5RW6P4/xII=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=ojwl1Vv1ki26Wti5F0u+wevKHqcBmT6IvxXcBkecLrT6wprys+ucZa1HPfGlpdavR Wsb+e4xSeTimRZgNVeDw/C0z5RkQbv2ezmdTxwwg1vlGXB9favWk3sP2Pgo5ejblGh TTgJpn2HFiJUQQMsMKI6u6VJbz14zD2qA+h+uTHY= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:298436320:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29454f98cfc02f0c X-AOL-IP: 72.213.139.102 Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Alternator conversion X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Others recommend to use a remanufactured '78 Ford Fiesta Bosch alternator w/55A which gives almost a bolt-on replacement. And I can use Dan's wiring schematics for the electrical hookup. My main problem is locating the Fiesta alternator. Does anyone have a specific source for this Bosch alternator with fan and pulley? I spent hours trying to locate one that is remanufactured, carrying some sort of warranty. But, I have not yet found suppliers, like AutoZone, Summit, NAPA nor Pep Boys. I don't want to search at junk yards. Does anyone have any recommendations? Thanking in advance, Jeff N. '72 TR6 I have one under my workbench still in the box I'd sell you. It wouldn't fit my GT6 because of clearance problems with the bonnet strut. FWIW I got it from Rock Auto PN #13107. I was saving it for my 72 TR6 when the factory Delco gives it up. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 26 06:46:20 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD502D07B9 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 06:46:20 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 742022D0793 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 06:39:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q3QCdwik023750 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:39:58 -0400 Received: from core-moe005a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moe005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.81]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A649CE000088 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:39:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <5e953.52a3c5a3.3cca9c1e@cs.com> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:39:58 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1335443998; bh=pYrEd3+pkwYWRJW5S9V7U1qSh9GfrR/JabZSTk36K8M=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hcUaiLU7CGCPOypDgVhjOsk3UzngTrGjy1pty0OpZHccExjoVqasPyj043vZYUZve 807P3aFc9k4x07PTuJS2m9cUVkx2OSROH2VETa8ZeWJNhnfgBEQQ0ICBeco5QBAfXa x703poYmVfPZ2gTXGqqo14bKlUxpVAE6JPzPBLeE= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:447162592:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb4f99421e2ce0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Idle adjustment fix X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Not for an F1 car. In a message dated 4/25/2012 10:16:29 PM Central Daylight Time, mark@bradakis.com writes: > Bud Rolofson wrote: > >The idle on my 6 has been a bit high (10-12k) > > Yep, 10 - 12,000 rpm is a bit high for an idle. > > mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 26 07:17:34 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1026C2D07BB for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:17:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC8B12D0642 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:10:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.28]) by qmta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2cz71j0040cZkys57dBMDu; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:11:21 +0000 Received: from [173.105.48.240] ([173.105.48.240]) by omta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2dAt1j0115Aw2Ph3WdAzNt; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 13:11:11 +0000 To: triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?dGZhbnNoZXJAY29tY2FzdC5uZXQ=?=" Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:11:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] =?utf-8?q?Off_to_the_Mitty?= X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Message-Id: <20120426131734.1026C2D07BB@autox.team.net> On I-75 just above Gainesville, Florida headed to Road Atlanta. Three TR6's not far behind. Looks like beautiful weather. Tom 73 Stag this trip Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 26 08:05:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1235D2D07B3 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:05:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B27B52D07C7 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:59:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbbgg6 with SMTP id gg6so1339324lbb.14 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:00:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=mmB3Cpgy0Fgi0RkV6WBMc+wB5IrjJCC1RgC5556ja64=; b=zyUysVHyTojoV/yWocOaKG/AZmHlfB8XmGowLuyDB1wrcL+BZcYTJ9IEZFEKGh8SOT tWJqCelLAO2wETwksn7KAIH3H83SSGz4xqQTGDYRZM/xw97KsrSwXAqK0eMdToJgYcNt Jl5zqsAQJ1gRhKCyvu8FDl+9nSDIr5ffuJjCGDVHuXRcXWdmvO1ZmCI/+0o5ThPvVS7h lZ0ymBYKz8Eye1STAdqTnnECiAu7od6cCLT7KkjB/i7QTpX6nUmtpWTvbYgWiBV3nK/V cKykOvRcnqdnZ9/NQeQ7qFO/y4l0M4I3uDBgGNzQAjnzH/GmPb+s5S8JiKBhISlpG1cN Sa3A== Received: by 10.112.99.198 with SMTP id es6mr3196542lbb.66.1335448826557; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:00:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.76.194 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:00:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Hiscock Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:00:06 -0400 Message-ID: To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Different TR3/3A/3B hubcap globe styles? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The majority of the enameled globes on the original hubcaps for my TR3B had the Triumph script in a diagonal line across the emblem, not the arched script most commonly seen in enameled and painted globes. Here's an image of some of the globes from my car: http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-sfZDwS2/0/L/i-sfZDwS2-L.jpg Standard-Triumph were nothing if not resourceful. This style of globe had to be used in a number of applications. Is it just my limited experience, or is this not at all common on sidescreen TRs? Is it more common on some other S-T model? Thanks in advance, Don Saint Louis 1962 TR3B TSF202L -- Running now, after 28 years of moldering away and 31 years of ownership! http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-ntgCXFK/0/L/i-ntgCXFK-L.jpg ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 26 08:37:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 425692D07DD for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:37:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498C02D0798 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:35:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lagz14 with SMTP id z14so1379768lag.14 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:35:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=ktW9h/Q7Iy6zNPKx3b883gHMlKfL9GihVvdyieERxQY=; b=DETsu0vjVBjc6tp2hSIrwti8VLvhOkRf2Ee24Bvdrks36WO8P4o8SW21VJni/9i5lh hfrr/WTFxb5G7SCoBtk0xs5DZITz8gJTC6LwFWHPDlJSNisc4CIYHAL0fKZVdQp7fqMT 4PRKVQU5Wq1ca7vinBUyzGoRZ+XOxardYGqNXKAo0Vqn9KaLFhR/tiQgTXDa3NbUHVVV gbRac9ng7CiDkZe/hqxgBzFca9CslzSZIGcl7n6vYxM3uegrBsrzCvEyP5f/nQLQ8eky Spwn5fOqQf/+RmcJuWTK/w0r+5fnLzNfQcd/7ujauojwzb+6jFiGmk2zVLK9VifitoQt u5ig== Received: by 10.152.148.34 with SMTP id tp2mr6594705lab.47.1335450936610; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:35:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.76.194 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 07:35:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5e953.52a3c5a3.3cca9c1e@cs.com> References: <5e953.52a3c5a3.3cca9c1e@cs.com> From: Don Hiscock Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:35:16 -0400 Message-ID: To: Dave1massey@cs.com X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Idle adjustment fix X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yeah, F1 is now limited by regulation to 18,000 rpm at full throttle, or the cars would easily be around 22,000 rpm by now. A 12000 "idle" isn't impossible at all. http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/rules_and_regulations/technical_regulations/8699/fia.html The *sound* of 24 Formula 1 cars at full throttle on the start of a tight course like the Monaco Formula 1 Grand Prix is beyond imagination. The other end of the spectrum from a wet liner TR four. I can't wait until the end of May and my annual visit to the Principality! Don On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 8:39 AM, wrote: > Not for an F1 car. > > In a message dated 4/25/2012 10:16:29 PM Central Daylight Time, > mark@bradakis.com writes: > > Bud Rolofson wrote: > > >The idle on my 6 has been a bit high (10-12k) > > > > Yep, 10 - 12,000 rpm is a bit high for an idle. > > > > mjb. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 26 10:29:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F0D42D07A4 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:29:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E8F922D0659 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:23:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.52] by nm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2012 16:24:19 -0000 Received: from [98.138.86.157] by tm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2012 16:24:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2012 16:24:19 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 284883.81755.bm@omp1015.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 4115 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Apr 2012 16:24:19 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1335457459; bh=Ov3L7gl994QU7G6Q43mPTTr1TD4QgDBi0wfZDnF3Re0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zjYcWhJ7SCe3Dpl96u9khAHBMXmRDU0rUW3bJdppyDqoqBBzncGlPiK1MkgfYuI3Ib+4Z/i53Qgz4+w+GuJgjItPEWs2tQLvh9DMQFsJoCEYzpEA2bD3KhTyLgvKQ+N11AwTI88zZXH/sd+wOiCCoAoLgH3vzgF3pwMdZOGES6Y= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pU+/TB3c0mrihFVQVhUqVsPxEAPx7LhWlVeIUnEMPcYz5VjozrZdEr6S/wQAZ95CBRk0XJ+TOSVrsUvIyD1dg91tav0P/JiODvS7lXVKZee/jCjXDMe0J1cR4VuwiIR5S+9HIFP03JmoIySOamOMN903RUxRq2sHaCw8E51hmJE=; X-YMail-OSG: BvGSPNkVM1mgtvUz4ibJbd5gQ0CNQJu9w7L_Zw3WO9IIE8I WZR8IJk5p_fZkTXSvw7mxJ.2r6JNA2DXEHgxE6TdIEqTT.5T9TBmR00xL7Yk _eZs.uHw5RkVbVpQrJneG6xk7TT_g_n4SRiR0hjvbuuQByMdmoL8eDAn2MeY kfrSziFFdZ3duiHaKOrtiW2LqhJr9iLJhrk5HysKq8CRRqjTKracwMdrKgiu RHn.boFPG0mX_soVcHNiWgqyIjEn8T6dgR_1H2gOB_JegvBs57IERshXhitu w3.HOM3lUZ5Y16FJmStr8M3dj6xotX_qIbnJg72h7qYOfTfm4NZnGi4qLkXB Zj2V7GkQu1PEBEjK9b84VcKes.AmlRC86xu2Z31QYOPQuldxIukUtPVYsFdb bZI1ipsY2SXw4Mthe8bi1ZWxP7StmQ1nqi_nrsXuXYcgC1MKaZaxtH3BCH2h .MAkp8IgxflmGh_82yz3XQ5KL4AG3m7Yy6e72L8nq6zWpE5nv0lB1gGKe7Io ceNi9JrIntmuu2zQ5A__SniZIWg0mIWEeZDpjNb3MvoHvjp30IXcc2jt5Hma oumVBPYabGw9II0ohDMQe_IduNPPFJoawz7RKNY14FUr5039csFH.fz99N9z A.IYLhO_gMMwJdO46vyO7uHCea0SjaoOyO.hiTTM0_nT7IyOU2ZiHzDwZY6H rYYHStZW4YCvtJSaq71iyXYNfPL1x8dj.kB7q.xcx Received: from [98.112.193.5] by web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:24:18 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.118.349524 References: <20120426131731.1BC222D07B4@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <1335457458.97933.YahooMailNeo@web120203.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:24:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: "tfansher@comcast.net" , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: <20120426131731.1BC222D07B4@autox.team.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Off to the Mitty X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net me too i-15 to the airport! Frank ________________________________ From: "tfansher@comcast.net" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 6:11 AM Subject: [TR] Off to the Mitty On I-75 just above Gainesville, Florida headed to Road Atlanta. Three TR6's not far behind. Looks like beautiful weather. Tom 73 Stag this trip Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 26 10:42:11 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D015D2D07DD for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:42:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0190E2D07BB for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:35:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wgbed3 with SMTP id ed3so1037163wgb.20 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:35:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=wOaNTbFw63NZu1D/CDWquTmGpW65X56tV8/u0zGWjQ8=; b=EWNEPS80y1yaiEr20qHpr5/2Ufwa9QjSDT20nhGYc6Q2eosbvvyYQy7tVuuseilZVB o8ipB4JbgerRdiwCnV/mR/tilrIUTHcKHx23JxeNZiQwfUYWIPSAc+e147r+gFFFCeLN mpWL7KX/qq2SCnf6hs632zZj2SrTway+ZPC8zcE1L18LgpOo12RvbArKUZmpMQnGSlj/ iy2hTzXqTnz6RI5HDu6Qhn27zP0eFroIy2u2642MtvJ/MAG/kSu+i6i2JZf++OHs12z6 Ry6RkE1fU/sVPyf+NhBDzxyPyyvzhTENTH8nnrpDiTMtxSZBAUAHQsXpMU6v6PzszjyI e5Xg== Received: by 10.180.101.8 with SMTP id fc8mr18277324wib.12.1335458146991; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:35:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.138.224 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 09:35:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Chris Simo Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:35:26 -0400 Message-ID: To: Don Hiscock X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Different TR3/3A/3B hubcap globe styles? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Funny - I was talking with a friend about this the other day. He asked me to check the emblems on my TR2 as he had heard there were some center caps without the underline under Triumph and thought it was only used on the early TR2's.... Alas and alack - mine had the underline... Now I'm interested in hearing what the collective wisdom of the list has to say! On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Don Hiscock wrote: > The majority of the enameled globes on the original hubcaps for my TR3B had > the Triumph script in a diagonal line across the emblem, not the arched > script most commonly seen in enameled and painted globes. > > Here's an image of some of the globes from my car: > http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-sfZDwS2/0/L/i-sfZDwS2-L.jpg > > Standard-Triumph were nothing if not resourceful. This style of globe had > to be used in a number of applications. Is it just my limited experience, > or is this not at all common on sidescreen TRs? Is it more common on some > other S-T model? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 26 11:15:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DC4C2D081F for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:15:51 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm16-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm16-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.210]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C6FEF2D07DA for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:15:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.65] by nm16.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2012 17:15:59 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.82] by tm5.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2012 17:15:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2012 17:15:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 356746.72479.bm@omp1019.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 57269 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2012 17:15:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=if26i8KiCLik4wlZ2sbiJA67xXG0WyMHcZAPtq6X/iMPidY5W3i0bHtVNdzjZa7z5vxzOnXAKvh+rwjhzesD6RVwhl+Y8kq6KgRNLFNXv6VTYDVgap5998PibGYt56UHlxyPEJxsWL0ybUb3yde5SIwktIa5lUxB5L8rfgrZpM8= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1335460559; bh=myIyOJxCF2HM/p2WaMOCad3j1zpQrZFMEwdX9zMin24=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=izg6/cWAeQvG4TyJcJBmJ9mdmX0xtz8dFpBPmVsXotTRV+mB3S8Gi6QCvqDhA8CuDptFMdIGtTpA6SeZ26e25o3rninaH7ZcWoN+O5aWlDTFT8JPHaV+GEBcHUW068T5zfKaMOGJ9NUpVcy1Hj4/7Dzm10HHfZeZgxM+M/BZ+Dw= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: FDBDJdoVM1nZeTjcQu1nT9EV.Gk95tkg6f0vWFyoq9MDCik x55SWyVnftq4E5Z1Ebn4ScgRJPzFbdEwY2YDkrMs.t7ohmBOA9VWbqHqHgA8 6vM1Y57EATEJkLMqxABXffC8jkjYjSShR4UjnFKF1q0SIzx5VnP5BD0k9e9C UEWaXGLPxkKTq544Yh2ZcnlFgdMItLM3iAV298ISLR3D6t9QcK4uTfkbUHDB fSl8.878z1LtY7TSOFQzXHLBTSlxef7CJeckazlU0EpSC0DZwgetjt7n5spW SeeN5.hpG1tUHJRu68tEiWKJK9pTW3uNG0F_I3heA.5FM7p_xKLoVlWcBlQC 6pgBFQLUsczUPDVMhDA4.MNdJMHQdIvD_VCCr2pA6w06Ra2NCL0BPF9hKpM. 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X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This sounds like a Jonmac question. Sent from mobile Bill On Apr 26, 2012, at 11:35 AM, Chris Simo wrote: > Funny - I was talking with a friend about this the other day. He asked me > to check the emblems on my TR2 as he had heard there were some center caps > without the underline under Triumph and thought it was only used on the > early TR2's.... Alas and alack - mine had the underline... > > Now I'm interested in hearing what the collective wisdom of the list has to > say! > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Don Hiscock wrote: > >> The majority of the enameled globes on the original hubcaps for my TR3B had >> the Triumph script in a diagonal line across the emblem, not the arched >> script most commonly seen in enameled and painted globes. >> >> Here's an image of some of the globes from my car: >> http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-sfZDwS2/0/L/i-sfZDwS2-L.jpg >> >> Standard-Triumph were nothing if not resourceful. This style of globe had >> to be used in a number of applications. Is it just my limited experience, >> or is this not at all common on sidescreen TRs? Is it more common on some >> other S-T model? > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 26 17:53:53 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A1A42D08B5 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:53:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D89B2D082F for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:43:46 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=E+F8LK9CrTIAipmc1xrXwXV/vGoJq2L3R534ib8UzEZ2LZFtEN9T3SBnablmX2wc; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [69.81.21.129] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1SNYM0-0004qL-N8 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:44:04 -0400 Message-ID: <4F99DDC9.5030300@rmi.net> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:44:09 -0500 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120319 Thunderbird/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: In-Reply-To: X-ELNK-Trace: 007d46394eab33d9f572e6f2f007804100cbdf14aa8ba0fc8037acf8ea439dce548b785378294e88350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.81.21.129 Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Alternator conversion X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have never purchased anything from this company, but it looks like they have the alternator in question in stock. http://www.autopartswarehouse.com/sku/Quality-Built/Alternator/MPA13107.html?apwcid=froogle&apw13107alqu Roger Elliott On 04/25/2012 11:32 PM, Sam Clark wrote: > > Others recommend to use a remanufactured '78 Ford Fiesta Bosch alternator > w/55A which > gives almost a bolt-on replacement. And I can use Dan's wiring schematics for > the electrical hookup. My main problem is locating the Fiesta alternator. > Does > anyone have a specific source for this Bosch alternator with fan and pulley? > I > spent hours trying to locate one that is remanufactured, carrying some sort > of > warranty. But, I have not yet found suppliers, like AutoZone, Summit, NAPA > nor > Pep Boys. I don't want to search at junk yards. Does anyone have any > recommendations? > > Thanking in advance, > Jeff N. > '72 TR6 > > I have one under my workbench still in the box I'd sell you. It wouldn't fit > my GT6 because of clearance problems with the bonnet strut. FWIW I got it > from Rock Auto PN #13107. I was saving it for my 72 TR6 when the factory > Delco gives it up. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/elliottr@rmi.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 26 17:54:47 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8403F2D08E7 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:54:47 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm24.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm24.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.221]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A0FE82D0829 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:52:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.52.194] by nm24.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2012 23:53:07 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.133] by tm7.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2012 23:53:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2012 23:53:07 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 80993.19605.bm@omp1016.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 24489 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Apr 2012 23:53:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1335484386; bh=fB7Ej8MA8BEtFzVfc9VvEEGFcaJWDS7S/4L3ZPhdp04=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=T4aDKq8vyGeJ3Q3ZSgY6p7TksumRL2DVRuR4/9XQdUGyqwrSIxzRM5AMr0KswB9FWsrq7+eSAJzgScvVJ90Rt+OYMClBAy0NcqUQYjMYpUw9YtCnIxPio3JTFX19jP52K816gT7ATQwmEXsSVh5ipdNt8EUD87js9+PRqq+J7/g= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=I8WAiuzLSguQIxgNJ0B6IKOgxYmlBXa83naI9Q7w+pBBw7tb/cQh87g8gpx8SUQJvx62iKMFnEO1k7DudoNFfmEZ69XV9Tt4qnu4jHEkAJrGz+nxgkDBusZBMf3MiP9Wz8fq27Ykw5cNy9VrxqFhZ32EHpQ4YHb2k2JUu0wC02Y=; X-YMail-OSG: DMv5gUoVM1lNeooQIix1NJV6ntW1RY8UM_tjmCQ4It0_.Kk 5DAtvaPZ8dOpfnf5PiuNr8ycMuV8OMDT7.Zp76EfZZc9xcg22coaBlPIyM64 QWCFcksL3YQzvZi8jCnaT7j5wMAMu0ShUW.0531en0yylA4NVpfasbUk.vHD iqWCaYxwz8EVeebTN9a3AVGtxpn6LAg94gD2544X3gwSJE7GK9wRtYmaf.vy aRusfX36_8lAtWWowlPUF2m51F0DZaBTsk6Fvk3I8p2emIbDp3PK6O6NoI_p bJItRcqisHX2D_OVXBxto5YfYZkLmyHE_0TZnrRHXIFKVasfuPeob.hOA2c_ ItgcgQw8uJNqDx2JSdxeQBVU.Fvq01c1.ahW2N_h9byyt.HOc03aSuudwCvI p.mYxSLvz2FYrags- Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:53:06 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 Message-ID: <1335484386.12532.YahooMailNeo@web65510.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:53:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] upper steering column support X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Nafziger List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Listers, I seem to have misplaced the upper steering column support for my tr-3. I've noticed there were several changes to the support and I'm finding none available at least from TRF. Couldn't find any on the diagrams in Moss either. I'm wondering if anyone has one for sale. If not it should be fairly simple to fabricate something. thanks gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 26 18:58:02 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3A382D0672 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:58:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8542D0645; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 18:48:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IaEFqBWa c=1 sm=0 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=miSH5RTOXs0A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=VBxtUDreYe6M_u0qm9kA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.84.49.244 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:50635] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id AF/32-19508-0FCE99F4; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 00:48:50 +0000 Message-ID: <9C59CB89736948F78D603001A2A14850@GregPC> From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Mark J Bradakis" , , <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <3B4A7248-32DF-47FF-9917-D9322431DB0A@comcast.net> <4F98BD4C.2040902@bradakis.com> In-Reply-To: <4F98BD4C.2040902@bradakis.com> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:48:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Idle adjustment fix X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net "Bud Rolofson wrote: The idle on my 6 has been a bit high (10-12k)" " Yep, 10 - 12,000 rpm is a bit high for an idle. mjb." Must have a really big cam. Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 26 19:30:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 581C52D066E for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:30:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669D02D0645 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 19:28:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.10]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q3R1TK7I028280 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:29:20 -0400 Received: from core-mec003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mec003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.46.201]) by mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3F27BE000082 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:29:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Loumetelko@aol.com Message-ID: <2b279.13cdfc7d.3ccb5070@aol.com> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:29:20 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 34 X-Originating-IP: [69.215.15.79] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1335490160; bh=yjk4er7VuQk2XRszEON0+9YvY0LUvIQEk/CC9l3v1QM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OnWIK0JeY4tIN5fy8GrM7KHfsd+byYVPs0doVxm8NFJgp0edu9z0hT0DqaKwhoyO1 jOn3iKOqXdSz0XQDOo829QRZdKP5U6NRtCHE1NqNcawyynzDS/TdnJoX/xYhe1WMvf U1opi4BBumSh3k2xy7tBq4ytLTc33o3LNqaFeKtY= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:465466592:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a4f99f67032be X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Different TR3/3A/3B hubcap globe styles? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Funny - I was talking with a friend about this the other day. He asked me > to check the emblems on my TR2 as he had heard there were some center caps > without the underline under Triumph and thought it was only used on the > early TR2's.... Alas and alack - mine had the underline... Chris & Bill: All four of the nave plates on ole TS981 have the underline under Triumph and I was assured that these "World" badges were original. According to Piggott there were two types of these badges, the early version was of the vitreous enamelled type but at TS13046 the more common painted type took over but in both cases the underline was there. Coincidently TS13046 was also when the braking type was changed from Lockheed to Girling and their discs in front. I have absolutely no clue what "vitreous enamelled" is but those are Piggott's words. Lou Metelko Auburn, Indiana ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 26 21:21:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 511972D065A for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:21:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 157AF2D0643 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:07:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=ReYS+iRv c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=ONHqGuZvLPYA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=1v1b3eiVISHLrpRFlSYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 3F/F4-07741-88D0A9F4; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 03:07:52 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , References: <2b279.13cdfc7d.3ccb5070@aol.com> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2012 20:07:51 -0700 Message-ID: <046701cd2422$ef525210$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <2b279.13cdfc7d.3ccb5070@aol.com> Thread-Index: Ac0kFXgDthRORowkSUK30FreFaaDdgADEZUQ Subject: Re: [TR] Different TR3/3A/3B hubcap globe styles? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I have absolutely no clue what "vitreous enamelled" is but those are > Piggott's words. More commonly known as cloisonne (with an accent above the 'e'), I believe. Vitreous refers to the fact it is cured by 'firing' (heating to high temperature), and enamel is, of course, the pigment. A pretty effect, but unfortunately rather fragile to be on a hub cap. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 26 22:24:07 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D832D065A for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 22:24:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5604C2D0650 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 22:13:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbbgg6 with SMTP id gg6so312947lbb.14 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:14:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=U9W4fl8TeZM+vUmkqEmJaLUEEdpf0Vd40/a4nS4gzRA=; b=cPUYMAiLAdywzlQvyCvrcFOwKX9BslzSkyUtowLEI97EzNp9GdIzf2KIRWibALRA29 m60OX6/HJKKbn856cZB4sY+8aMlc/8tawZviGIcxZbH/+Jybar/P91Hx42eWGrJQelCX J3YMG04Jd9kZFi5CiX40pGJ1TU6SfCejODMDdzeiZIjf6lNvbRhDf1yNXb+IVIu2O+e/ gsUZcdHqC1SMvAHyqaLe+2VaOsQ72KvNaSm580jthEaEAMSepE5EOXZ/fQS43MXxUrSr sVDQ4yabFKqBkGlVMr8fs3Vl8nKsgf77M41ntJBUk7yFq9u753zzLK9HcrCQVpsURIKX 4ffQ== Received: by 10.152.162.72 with SMTP id xy8mr8832720lab.28.1335500064131; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:14:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.76.194 with HTTP; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:14:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <046701cd2422$ef525210$0601a8c0@randall> References: <2b279.13cdfc7d.3ccb5070@aol.com> <046701cd2422$ef525210$0601a8c0@randall> From: Don Hiscock Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 00:14:03 -0400 Message-ID: To: Randall X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Different TR3/3A/3B hubcap globe styles? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net TSF202L, built April 12, 2012, had three hubcaps with the straight diagonal, non-underlined emblems when I got it in 1981, and one with the arched, underlined Triumph script. It had been in a front end accident at some point, so I can't say it came with the one oddball emblem. The emblems are different in almost every respect. The land masses are much smaller on the straight Triumph emblems and show all of Australia and British Isles are shown only as a slightly bigger spot on the chrome. The blue of the ocean on the straight Triumph emblems is a much lighter color enamel, and there are nine lines of latitude and nine lines of longitude. The underlined, arched emblems have five lines of latitude, seven lines of longitude, and a outsized enameled representation of the UK. Don PS: Vitreous means glassy, from the Latin *vitrei*, for glass*.* Similar etymology to experiments run *in vitro*, meaning in glass vessels. On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Randall wrote: > > I have absolutely no clue what "vitreous enamelled" is but those are > > Piggott's words. > > More commonly known as cloisonne (with an accent above the 'e'), I believe. > Vitreous refers to the fact it is cured by 'firing' (heating to high > temperature), and enamel is, of course, the pigment. A pretty effect, but > unfortunately rather fragile to be on a hub cap. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Apr 26 22:56:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 697532D0667 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 22:56:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from email.consolidated.net (omr04.consolidated.net [72.22.9.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B369C2D064C for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2012 22:56:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from h179.142.141.67.dynamic.ip.windstream.net (EHLO _192.168.1.119_) ([67.141.142.179]) by omr04.consolidated.net (MOS 4.3.3-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id FAC68305 (AUTH triumphs@consolidated.net); Fri, 27 Apr 2012 00:56:35 -0400 (EDT) References: <20120426131734.602A42D07AB@autox.team.net> In-Reply-To: <20120426131734.602A42D07AB@autox.team.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: <176471C7-7475-4383-8843-E6F592547159@consolidated.net> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B176) From: Home Consolidated Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 00:56:26 -0400 To: "tfansher@comcast.net" X-Mirapoint-IP-Reputation: reputation=Neutral-1, source=Queried, refid=tid=0001.0A020302.4F9A26FE.0090, actions=MAILHURDLE TAG X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=omr04.consolidated.net X-Junkmail-Signature-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A02020B.4F9A2703.00C1,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0, ip=67.141.142.179, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46, mode=single engine X-Junkmail-IWF: false X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A02020B.4F9A2703.00C1,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0, ip=67.141.142.179, so=2011-07-25 19:15:43, dmn=2011-05-27 18:58:46 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 6549e7ce5e816076946235ef14d86415 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Off to the Mitty X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Arrive 12:30am after 13hours in the tr3. Boy, my butt is sore. Ken Gano Sent from my iPad On Apr 26, 2012, at 9:11 AM, "tfansher@comcast.net" wrote: > On I-75 just above Gainesville, Florida headed to Road Atlanta. Three TR6's not far behind. Looks like beautiful weather. > Tom > 73 Stag this trip > > Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint! > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs@consolidated.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 27 05:28:50 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48A222D0672 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 05:28:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-we0-f169.google.com (mail-we0-f169.google.com [74.125.82.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E532D0651 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 05:26:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by werj55 with SMTP id j55so535401wer.14 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 04:26:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=jbOSwdOYBfcxEkfDElFilLU00eJdQKOB0Nt1tzu+OH0=; b=z//q4Igtf0xMdMKLXa+JsQ8zUH2cyYzTFQMBpi1RdG3FDbCiNVeQlp0dyuZBpWcpLd TfUQEN/kmJP5s8Wa0CF30Fobu0gAWNbKQ0h3xKKA6yZTQXhqXOzCNaFo4g5yNXVcO0iR gyHUbrEqAGbvmzHP+hFEbcgQWj69NkTwQUV0gWEgqmCHj5pnP2Mn3Y9EK/lGUQcYhe6l 8apVvQTi6bi5hOPik/4WSFiOfFTTNV60PO7M9QjBbWMaNweOBiJPn6Pa6sRTUsIbIJcr zl89d+pIYc9OMMix7qRom+nEboCDGxH7rytBP2vzVTuZJMHhwFn3zxYqmOKo43d8hEN3 ZTGg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.77.233 with SMTP id v9mr4963709wiw.22.1335525992514; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 04:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.138.224 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 04:26:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.138.224 with HTTP; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 04:26:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2b279.13cdfc7d.3ccb5070@aol.com> <046701cd2422$ef525210$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:26:32 -0400 Message-ID: From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Different TR3/3A/3B hubcap globe styles? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net http://db.tt/Umzz6Mgl This is a link to a pic of two of my spare hub cap centers just to provide some additional visual reference. One is vitreous and the other I believe is painted. Both have scripts dissimilar to the one don posted. On Apr 27, 2012 12:24 AM, "Don Hiscock" wrote: > TSF202L, built April 12, 2012, had three hubcaps with the straight > diagonal, non-underlined emblems when I got it in 1981, and one with the > arched, underlined Triumph script. It had been in a front end accident at > some point, so I can't say it came with the one oddball emblem. > > The emblems are different in almost every respect. The land masses are > much smaller on the straight Triumph emblems and show all of Australia and > British Isles are shown only as a slightly bigger spot on the chrome. The > blue of the ocean on the straight Triumph emblems is a much lighter color > enamel, and there are nine lines of latitude and nine lines of longitude. > The underlined, arched emblems have five lines of latitude, seven lines of > longitude, and a outsized enameled representation of the UK. > > Don > > PS: Vitreous means glassy, from the Latin *vitrei*, for glass*.* Similar > etymology to experiments run *in vitro*, meaning in glass vessels. > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 11:07 PM, Randall wrote: > > > > I have absolutely no clue what "vitreous enamelled" is but those are > > > Piggott's words. > > > > More commonly known as cloisonne (with an accent above the 'e'), I > believe. > > Vitreous refers to the fact it is cured by 'firing' (heating to high > > temperature), and enamel is, of course, the pigment. A pretty effect, > but > > unfortunately rather fragile to be on a hub cap. > > > > -- Randall > > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ccsimonsen@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 27 11:40:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C96042D07AD for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:40:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C7C962D05EE for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:40:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.49] by nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Apr 2012 17:40:34 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.123] by tm2.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Apr 2012 17:40:34 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1032.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Apr 2012 17:40:34 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 408834.42447.bm@omp1032.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 99642 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Apr 2012 17:40:34 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1335548434; bh=MUQDSG6EO1ZViLZeOhD8oqNnSvFoFXfrSw7jzGrET3M=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=V76gAYCj8DATaWyEs74wHbydqEAN/QDCzYPoyTV49s5HQzOiNfRNUla1t4Y+nseA6n0oROVai+9cY61zz04nyA0lC+neQb286tre2KxZzts3VQlCbeMeKrvvl37ZSFnkt9Up6FSVCNyQ/Zlpv4yUI9377GYBXWOl1+a7amAnl2k= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=eANSKRC3i1qiBgpstEV9uyKyqIJrGoueNDhLuIrzQ4ItAulhs2U4pPIXLRme0UuQ4s7C2PTTq9c0XolZIhNhvn0B3YKpB387YrDIlNoSELL/RCWyXg0ttzvfGpAsH1+K8PfHMxdHH8kv9Ppuh0rdeOdLjJXvzLDyjCUEWIZatOk=; X-YMail-OSG: sbaR7MUVM1nklwuw9eQh1MwT7OQ36up6AQ07t4XV4A_zkDt mM5MWlArEL6ce3FplSQIZDVdq1pvOsjAc56Sg7U3sUpWLNHIW2TIwd6RHCLU iOaPsx2dcW5WK5GkENPXYYpwLXUj2KDetTs_4uRLGdQEzhbbgjy3ez4I_Wev O8GeaVEyBKxV4_OH6RHzXmhPgIcnT6ljpKVdR_coaiCtcQ2Pdkd53xPWfjVw PslYL2ooSHANwpmVopu4W87z0bKbA4FiTAgw5NKz0unxm.yYUp9ZaLg2mVaI LHpoeH1v55YjvOe3nxzNa_DSJ493rKCEM5XWmhTMOp0EHG_8bilaO9jIkQrd Asu_CkorOO256K8tL_H_oT66X9pp5wxiVG2NbdrZ7xpGOHu2_CaHfBqf08cJ Q3vazNgl3lNRcGBaOq0UeGWgTnOoL3Fb7OI2I7nvfOuMZe2yzcz1a1345uJJ EhGQKxkriwIU1lvMbPYBCtlKjTn5xWSEsq5Ph0ufVAPZMc80qdSd8hsvBGO8 9t5euu7EBcz1.OOiD_aA1OKjESC_rANzlnIwNfAk9KkIv.xe696KE9AKcjGO UOReKZwjbKqDZDD1Gyojuej6XC.jJc2wj1cvutgUJ8WyD Received: from [79.75.82.68] by web29402.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:40:34 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 References: Message-ID: <1335548434.82827.YahooMailNeo@web29402.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:40:34 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: Wbeech , Chris Simo In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Different TR3/3A/3B hubcap globe styles? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Oh, gawd, where did my memory go? Let's put it this way. The factory parts operation sold Triumph World emblems as accessories, though whether any made it stateside is anyone's guess. When my GT6 Mk 2 (GT6+) was new, the rattling Rostyle type wheelcovers drove me mad. No matter whazt you did in wedging bits of rubber pipe between the cover and wheelrim, they soon fell out and the rattles returned. Within 3 months of having the car, I bought four Herald hub caps and four World emblems. The emblem perfectly fitted the centre circle so I drilled a small hole and bolted them through. No more rattles - and I think the car looked way better! All that said, the emblems themselves were plated zinc with the blue and red painted in the right place for land and sea. Also, the TRIUMPH word was underlined and top end located on the roundel. Best I can do , Gents. Jonmac http://standard-triumph-books.co.uk >________________________________ > From: Wbeech >To: Chris Simo >Cc: Triumphs >Sent: Thursday, 26 April 2012, 18:18 >Subject: Re: [TR] Different TR3/3A/3B hubcap globe styles? > >This sounds like a Jonmac question. > >Sent from mobile Bill > >On Apr 26, 2012, at 11:35 AM, Chris Simo wrote: > >> Funny - I was talking with a friend about this the other day. He asked me >> to check the emblems on my TR2 as he had heard there were some center caps >> without the underline under Triumph and thought it was only used on the >> early TR2's.... Alas and alack - mine had the underline... >> >> Now I'm interested in hearing what the collective wisdom of the list has to >> say! >> >> On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Don Hiscock >wrote: >> >>> The majority of the enameled globes on the original hubcaps for my TR3B >had >>> the Triumph script in a diagonal line across the emblem, not the arched >>> script most commonly seen in enameled and painted globes. >>> >>> Here's an image of some of the globes from my car: >>> http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-sfZDwS2/0/L/i-sfZDwS2-L.jpg >>> >>> Standard-Triumph were nothing if not resourceful. This style of globe had >>> to be used in a number of applications. Is it just my limited experience, >>> or is this not at all common on sidescreen TRs? Is it more common on some >>> other S-T model? >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 27 13:59:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A30252D078D for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:59:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4464D2D065F for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:54:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BobPC (ool-44c75d75.dyn.optonline.net [68.199.93.117]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0M3500M8NM0FIYM0@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:55:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:55:23 -0400 From: Bob In-reply-to: To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-index: Ac0koUPViDvmpkKjTO6k1K+nMpqLowADdUqQ References: Subject: [TR] TR6 Alternator conversion X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net There are a number of vendors on eBay stating they have Bosch Alternators for TR6. I have not purchased from any of them. This is one of them. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Triumph-TR6-TR8-TR250-SPITFIRE-Alternator-Bosch-75-A mp-/280838708587?hash=item41634a9d6b&item=280838708587&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_P arts_Accessories&vxp=mtr Hope this helps. Regards, Bob > Does > anyone have a specific source for this Bosch alternator with fan and pulley? > I > spent hours trying to locate one that is remanufactured, carrying some > sort of warranty. But, I have not yet found suppliers, like AutoZone, > Summit, NAPA nor Pep Boys. I don't want to search at junk yards. Does > anyone have any recommendations? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 27 14:21:01 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107F72D0668 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:21:01 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm23.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm23.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D8202D0613 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:20:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm23.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Apr 2012 20:20:56 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.162] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Apr 2012 20:20:56 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1063.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Apr 2012 20:20:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 22049.41974.bm@omp1063.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 45771 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Apr 2012 20:20:55 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1335558055; bh=1Q5txxSKarYwUWPX7mkMs+fEW0kYwh2rj3s8ayGKxV0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sPtKvGqgpO6htSyJVuwnU0pZ1SzAGv2HsVKrdtycILsGXw8DTTfBweWjxIePm4oWvVL1zyXRzSIWv27xYwBAvxRLyyot7JrSLj233b31+OnXBlI1GveEaPtF1d5DDhewRJcIPJzWLOktA/FZAiiYWbQpKwyXctjfxOP/h8zDopo= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Jkg8P+d2GqfYYAdbytLRbcsUnT6b4x7VO2TeDSTrXBYbCp6MRDdicJo/robUVkm4dPR5WGQTXQQdTAmHno67n64MzHDtlVeNzHpEVOVHCT8sdDL8iqE3puC2hq/qD+4AhzXUxzo9FB5rMQQ7UGvg7WFL4wOWk9kU8lwceev59PY=; X-YMail-OSG: ay3F.l4VM1mSTT.X723f7GPmQT7Lxn5VNPXfchO0_ktSlEN afbYVAou6HZzJWsih0f9Vk7HE2vLbsKcM4_vbIlRFZ3..dD5KOquPE9w.1JR rk2iyooIAWbcnL2z.GZWpuyaqHKktvSFJ8K_eZPegiZCeFm66RgFGWuGDrXv Jg25uYzBifnDwjuXuCGBPTDx_qcd_0s7UTr4O9iz4fknUaH9iZfBVp3wnvjZ sUjZ.yQ4akMlLLOUbSeVsURikV_iZ_LASBEhMeEgrRDtvhHSYC5m_bnLsNsN yWq5_QN8uvUpZCmZt3NMVDOn4zgjqmyYHYjotsrNET__yH4IC1ZYtoUoSO_I b7IrRc7J1Q6IwLiDWr771qJGyPbtWqHJzObXIuOuw1JX9.dFFkR66RdE3o5P HMTCScfpCx9hnAgHOkCWAy5jLA0FGCUp7IVKhtzt3okNws_exP3OrhAUAN8r B6IT2HS22BZThxay0rNxWs63BVz5InLP_BNGgcY3nz3t_C4fSbg9Vlo_A3xY W2pyphnH0 Received: from [96.240.91.193] by web39402.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:20:55 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.118.349524 Message-ID: <1335558055.13997.YahooMailNeo@web39402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 13:20:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Cosmo Kramer To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] (no subject) X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cosmo Kramer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 07:26:32 -0400 From: Chris Simo Subject: Re: [TR] Different TR3/3A/3B hubcap globe styles? http://db.tt/Umzz6Mgl This is a link to a pic of two of my spare hub cap centers just to provide some additional visual reference. One is vitreous and the other I believe is painted. Both have scripts dissimilar to the one don posted. ------------------------------------ Hi List! I think Chris S. is off to the mitty, so he will most likely not reply right away. But in his picture, the one on the left looks like the TR3 enamel & the one on the right looks like the Lat. & Lon. lines are raised. Which I was told that is the correct one for the TR4A cars. I was also told that the TR4A emblem was made out of plastic (Which explains why it is painted & NOT baked enamel.) Thus, I believe that the plastic is in another category in itself, & this thread started out as TR2 -> TR3 enamel badges of when the change came about? Lou M. or anyone else, wish to to give more input or correction? -Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 27 17:28:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341692D06A8 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:28:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm16.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm16.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2FDAB2D05BF for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:28:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [72.30.22.77] by nm16.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Apr 2012 23:28:41 -0000 Received: from [209.191.108.97] by tm11.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Apr 2012 23:27:41 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.97] by t4.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Apr 2012 23:27:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Apr 2012 23:27:41 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 76106.35135.bm@omp1002.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 97666 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2012 23:27:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-index; b=v8RvuCSHqzH07HB3Zp4tonQjWTR7deB15WM6h1Y0Td2nuzhzmde5WKaX4EEx0yp6/Yf0KjFb1V2hnQs5ObdvFary1J4D95uhHBQkcjnz7J+B5WM8mjo6LsxdJK83cP9YLYzQXtMebimGxaZWfCcrZ4ZYplsYwxy5Mcd5sevc74w= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1335569261; bh=M3A8ZtTRUdIU0nheASUvrbZkMtZtUgcymsmAJYXbIlY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-index; b=lvBXxVtCCdhctr7bMWYzBe7KDluy1Kmkj4F73f7HKT+2C92zWeRW0QDPulqRI3XP2Y/UAIpUBEVdtnuWYWuDOZNHIqg2cgd7rjpZDlJuqeI5Nke1zxtg5Elv2GDgDFEdBsfJSb1wVde3bc835atL0haBTLBRM2YFuw1LoKpQESo= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: TovQY2sVM1lm7C825u7mBIhltPwvlw_wjcUufv8l4LLIcAH xUWwVsrexyAACwYL51Shwk_UZnEp7sZLYOI5D7T3a.qMx64K2lSBfU96E950 6OyRuFM.ox64GroY.SGGherz62YNNWf1OLEyl8sTdp03wlb241VvW8h3LpP3 2XNeGfcFlFZToGQYt5rU1bI5zMSUzxnCKdEZnXgWtNc1jxa7gE0AGazjwdGj b7iFn_K6KpQ3im98jTcmTxdxwEoec9JWtckYnS4s31M_9v._74Ab543TiN3g NZnVeombHt1TlsD9eVIGDNLaZ2QYA3O5MSrVeSMWDaRCIcFxUwQhBbnMT1A3 hspp8XgJKbVVGixpIOUXUs.UxyQ0nYC_Vqxk6MG1ZWHGIc.QKUbX0HFOWjkn QFrVhJD4nKxx1J5W5klmU0p_vP6yf6MOpFtYBPXpi5GcI1G8.tbo2XxwRthA ulqNvdeQmZSe1hAD2QjDpCNfas42KCz5D_6WkQssnC0Wz3BF1rxD3cEy7WYp wmL_y4cUMcyCw81rI_FH4N_w5QQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 Apr 2012 16:27:40 -0700 PDT From: To: Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:27:32 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-index: Ac0kzKc5OMMvcO3CSG2Wc5zTvFB5pw== Subject: [TR] TR3 upper Ball Joint X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I see there is quite a difference in the ball joint price between TRF and Moss, is there is quality difference? Or, is there another supplier that has a superior ball joint unit for my car. This is one place I don't mind spending a couple of extra bucks for top quality. Thanks, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS30766L "Tarbaby" www.triumphowners.com/1566 "Hello, my name is Bill and I own an old British car. Now...What are the next 11 steps?" ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Apr 27 20:43:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0599D2D0780 for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:43:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF522D067B for ; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:43:03 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=pbrandsema@triad.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=fvFelSEf c=1 sm=0 a=lf5fmjAqwvIA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=dRhS_zz0W8kaYcWEw9oA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=V0wyWzcKeXAI532Kf5MiBg==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.128.132.100] ([10.128.132.100:40571] helo=hrndva-web09-z01) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 49/29-23230-4595B9F4; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 02:43:32 +0000 Message-ID: <20120428024332.IVV8P.22328.root@hrndva-web09-z01> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 22:43:32 -0400 From: To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: [TR] TR4 Oil Breather Pipe Oil Catch Tank X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I'm thinking about removing the plug from the TR4 engine block and replaice with a breather pipe. Question is if I connect a hose from the pipe to a catch tank, will the pipe be as effective? Paul 61 TR4 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 06:47:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0762C2D04E5 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:47:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from davesource.com (davesource.com [66.135.55.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4F282D04DA for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:46:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dave by davesource.com with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SO72R-0006eW-00 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 05:46:10 -0700 Message-Id: From: David Ljung Madison To: triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 05:26:32 -0700 X-Mailer: DaveMail [version 6.0] Subject: [TR] Rebuilding TR3A engine X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net It looks like I need to rebuild my TR3A engine (rod knocking). It'd be nice to rebuild it right and get rid of at least the majority of oil leaking. Perhaps that's a pipe dream. Regardless, rebuilding the engine is a bit beyond my time/abilities, so time to dump some more money into the Triumph. Suggestions of shops/places to either get or rebuild a TR3/TR3A engine? Anyone have any experience with Performance Research Industries? Looks like they're on the expensive side, but they make a powerful engine. Dave --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Ljung Madison http://GetDave.com/ 415.341.5555 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 07:05:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 567CE2D065E for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:05:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534AB2D04D7 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:04:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120428130524.QZCY10966.mta11.charter.net@imp10>; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 09:05:24 -0400 Received: from Desktop ([71.88.43.114]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id 3R5M1j0092TnnaX05R5QUL; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 09:05:24 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=JYQIUidRAECiNa+jsiaNMIhYElg3H2WoMKCJIGO75f4= c=1 sm=1 a=QkbJwMDtiq4A:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=l0rTUnuL56bM4w0sCDsvjQ==:17 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=2ypx0BcIAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=tUqzx97JJIfSHJkIlVgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=cQqqYfh2qS0A:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=l0rTUnuL56bM4w0sCDsvjQ==:117 From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" To: "'David Ljung Madison'" , References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 09:05:19 -0400 Message-ID: <000001cd253f$90061ee0$b0125ca0$@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHSiEgxSyxsTGtEOYy0JdHF7Ur+h5albmtw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Rebuilding TR3A engine X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dave - Where are you located? Alex Thomson -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David Ljung Madison Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 8:27 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Rebuilding TR3A engine It looks like I need to rebuild my TR3A engine (rod knocking). It'd be nice to rebuild it right and get rid of at least the majority of oil leaking. Perhaps that's a pipe dream. Regardless, rebuilding the engine is a bit beyond my time/abilities, so time to dump some more money into the Triumph. Suggestions of shops/places to either get or rebuild a TR3/TR3A engine? Anyone have any experience with Performance Research Industries? Looks like they're on the expensive side, but they make a powerful engine. Dave --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Ljung Madison http://GetDave.com/ 415.341.5555 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aljlthomson@charter.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 07:15:51 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 059AD2D0500 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:15:51 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from davesource.com (davesource.com [66.135.55.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 674912D048C for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:13:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dave by davesource.com with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SO7SD-0006k2-5O for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:12:49 -0700 Message-Id: From: David Ljung Madison To: triumphs@autox.team.net Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:11:47 -0700 X-Mailer: DaveMail [version 6.0] In-Reply-To: <000001cd253f$90061ee0$b0125ca0$@charter.net> References: <000001cd253f$90061ee0$b0125ca0$@charter.net> Subject: Re: [TR] Rebuilding TR3A engine X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Dave - Where are you located? Good point: San Francisco Dave --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Ljung Madison http://GetDave.com/ 415.341.5555 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 07:37:18 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE86A2D04F8 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:37:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EECC2D04C5 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 07:37:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: by obbeh20 with SMTP id eh20so2982725obb.14 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:37:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=rCiRIR5NAPQ6QMgZJPuKnrlzVjBOTbXxAI6JM2jxEZI=; b=zLiokTo5PhUBOwwiBakoUOFehSlpc+H0zUSXZMUkKNBMWHxR+ha9X+NpEmhXYiySF9 kLAdNaxoOOsRTAWW8YbVeCmD0HRhdHqry0XVNgEeCe6r24Y78IqdjJv5jTFgQmQBrX39 hHfkat1Ta4W8W5CJa+mEzJICnUZdVAUcxRCwoc9MQgMsPgo+IoaTqTzWLx2pK1sZTidY HxB1BdJtANLLeO3IYoL/XiaR/mw6JyQALqD9cttQBCdkfOt5EGS63q3cZo2SvqgZHwPd Vb/HlYRxwX9XLKJNGF8or8fmGrvsIcPolzgE28j+u9drVR0BGUeup0GGYP+nMy3psEvm /o4g== Received: by 10.182.221.100 with SMTP id qd4mr19712010obc.8.1335620258466; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:37:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-49-194.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.49.194]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id il8sm10484894obc.18.2012.04.28.06.37.36 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:37:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F9BF29F.5030707@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 06:37:35 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] Rebuilding TR3A engine X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Area code 415. My guess is that you are in driving distance of Santa Cruz, CA. I highly recommend Greg Solow's Engine Room in Santa Cruz. They have a LOT of experience with the TR four cylinder engine from pure stock to full race builds in TRs & Morgans. They rebuilt my TR3's engine for me years ago, summer before last did a rack and pinion conversion for me and just last summer put in a new limited slip diff for me. They know what they are doing. On 4/28/12 5:26 AM, David Ljung Madison wrote: > Suggestions of shops/places to either get or rebuild a TR3/TR3A engine? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dave Ljung Madison http://GetDave.com/ 415.341.5555 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 10:26:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE1C2D07B8 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:26:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.242]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id BC0862D0530 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 10:21:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.65] by nm12.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2012 16:21:54 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.77] by tm5.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2012 16:21:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1014.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2012 16:21:54 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 927941.53524.bm@omp1014.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 94364 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2012 16:21:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index; b=R7CHpiRAAW+LS9Z4GWtQntIQQ4bSDCWN5lnHFj+Rdm+Zt9xS7M/xryFTg6+8UVi6Voy4QYIhaslY7fCF7Ztu6oVRJdHudtFlEarltVZ3FSC2Vb8if6STIE277lzCQWvSGi5+35tsqoCnJqXvguhJoPmGaZHVPdVblSRR7zaKhuw= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1335630114; bh=WtrfsZH//au/Kk0EUP9iS42EABhlMFjpR2pINVIoXp8=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index; b=UHvCqOKsPM18crg/ZUan3srN9pPoqTh1y1YZCgSs2mfMhHNZzrvAtzg/4odEIHr0oEv/bj++I7ZLyLGahiZSbUnfq6sQ+pfukmM6xd8pueaP0oOeiS9KFwnzoZ2yW1TVTlcDnhXQRPnSA74r3TJFACM0PmO/hZ+rgt4/STeb3Oc= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Ebu4h_4VM1nF6tuRpSx6XjCy9tcdeHjO6QgF9f.gqVGAbEe 2tTQZkK_2RHn9YPSlgUemSIADHgArNRCKh91aI0hTEx4dVaeK1KcqiJ52ZeX ei6KBYFPmqosQK9soKDziTMOIgiqTt9i8cLvQJ6HRk0RYlNx3sPIZizwRr8Q lnDTLek2RrUYCYceLzHI2Z3a9.0aVHlimLsQjDatVQ2LlP7et2C9L_.ffgfI fpQBxAF57ebygCTdqHlKt1Qdp6ZxRlDZT1rEPIPR5N4I2HPxoYB9_HzkvWwt eezaP0Yhq6iQmuvAsdDG1ryqlC03GHD4EWjjmcjpSI5uzfgubQCNeXCihSG0 WMRWWqcQjSzDHultNp4QlG_AhqNsStHvs2I1.gCWnyI00nwC6sYiCdxhu5Nc uIv6byrnyD0PhvOxLRaBpbM6bL_7uEtak0ZnNIWbNMi0HPOJcxk38vBjraUI bys7KumYe5KkIV4RVHNp_SFkbfurzGYOYC8HL2Ybqd.wsH0lp5nc- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp112.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2012 09:21:54 -0700 PDT From: To: , References: <20120428024332.IVV8P.22328.root@hrndva-web09-z01> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 11:21:41 -0500 Message-ID: <3D425E57197145D89954C28477195A2D@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20120428024332.IVV8P.22328.root@hrndva-web09-z01> Thread-Index: Ac0k6Nd+XplvMmAtTYCyFlTBpb4gNQAcPkwQ Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Oil Breather Pipe Oil Catch Tank X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The pipe would be effective as long as there is free air flow at the end. Ques: Why not just go with the TR3 pipe set up? Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of pbrandsema@triad.rr.com Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:44 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR4 Oil Breather Pipe Oil Catch Tank I'm thinking about removing the plug from the TR4 engine block and replaice with a breather pipe. Question is if I connect a hose from the pipe to a catch tank, will the pipe be as effective? Paul 61 TR4 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 13:22:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B86F2D07B2 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:22:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B8E2D05F3 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:14:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5452E076 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:21:43 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4F9C4342.9000605@bradakis.com> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:21:38 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Team.Net web server X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net While working on one problem I accidently caused another, as anyone who tried to get to the forums, the mailman admin page, the donate link or whatever during the last 12 hours or so would know. The server is now responding, though the problems I was working on are still unresolved. I'd rather be at The Mitty! mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 14:13:37 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7DE42D06E7 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:13:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.truedefense.com (mail05.truedefense.com [216.69.224.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E85A02D03B2 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 14:13:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from otnoex1.onthenetoffice.com ([172.16.8.3]) by mail05.truedefense.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q3SKDet5074436 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:13:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from JPayne@ThorCon.net) Received: from otnoex0.onthenetoffice.com ([172.16.8.4]) by otnoex1.onthenetoffice.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:13:41 -0700 Received: from EX1HTS01.onthenetoffice.com ([172.16.8.31]) by otnoex0.onthenetoffice.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:13:40 -0700 Received: from EX1MBX01.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::f9f4:b916:4b54:5534]) by ex1hts01.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::dcca:855d:bb32:dc3f%12]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 13:13:39 -0700 From: Jonas Payne To: "'TR List'" Thread-Topic: TR Overdrive in reverse. Thread-Index: Ac0le1Y5IxksEt7QSXWygPFDxShLJg== Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:13:38 +0000 Message-ID: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C18880AE6@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [172.16.12.67] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Apr 2012 20:13:40.0529 (UTC) FILETIME=[6724EA10:01CD257B] Subject: [TR] TR Overdrive in reverse. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I believe that one of my electic OD switches failed "not safe", and I backed my car out of the garage in reverse with the OD engaged. It is my understanding from the guys on the healey web that this is "very bad". I am now suffering some "binding/lurching" when in first or reverse, and have been pushing the car around in fear of doing any damage. It would appear that the unit is coming out again, but exactly what does driving an OD in reverse do that is so bad? Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 17:20:16 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379B72D07C0 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:20:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from davesource.com (davesource.com [66.135.55.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5B702D06E7 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:17:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dave by davesource.com with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SOGsz-0007zT-Ot; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:17:05 -0700 Message-Id: From: David Ljung Madison To: triumphs@autox.team.net,tjwakeman@gmail.com Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:13:40 -0700 X-Mailer: DaveMail [version 6.0] In-Reply-To: <4F9BF29F.5030707@gmail.com> References: <4F9BF29F.5030707@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [TR] Rebuilding TR3A engine X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net TeriAnn writes: > I highly recommend Greg Solow's Engine Room in Santa Cruz. > > They rebuilt my TR3's engine for me years ago,.. I read about that on your "restoration horror story" :) I'll have to give them a call, didn't realize that all happened near the Bay Area. > ..did a rack and pinion conversion for me Interesting - that's high on my list as well, I was thinking about doing it myself, but time is in limited supply right now. How long did the rebuild take and how long did the R&P take? Dave --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dave Ljung Madison http://GetDave.com/ 415.341.5555 ------------ Okay Scotty, very funny.. Now beam down my clothes ---------- ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 17:49:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8049B2D083D for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:49:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from col0-omc1-s12.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc1-s12.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.22]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D60392D0821 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:45:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL122-DS9 ([65.55.34.7]) by col0-omc1-s12.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:45:39 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [71.102.218.49] X-Originating-Email: [peterara@msn.com] Message-ID: From: "Peter Arakelian" To: "Listers" Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:46:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN 9 Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:46:03 -0700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Apr 2012 23:45:39.0635 (UTC) FILETIME=[04527830:01CD2599] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] slipping out of third X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have a 71 TR6 non-overdrive transmission. When I am in third, decelerating down hill, on occasion, it will slip out of gear. Not pop out, but occasionally slide out - it feels like I just stepped on the clutch. No other problems with transmission. Goes through all gears fine - up and down. No noise, no grinding. Only the occasional slide out of third. Diagnosis? Peter Arakelian ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 17:54:59 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E482D0388 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:54:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.truedefense.com (mail05.truedefense.com [216.69.224.77]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4052D0333 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:54:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from otnoex2.onthenetoffice.com ([172.16.8.9]) by mail05.truedefense.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q3SNtKBD076316; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:55:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from JPayne@ThorCon.net) Received: from otnoex0.onthenetoffice.com ([172.16.8.4]) by otnoex2.onthenetoffice.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:55:05 -0700 Received: from EX1HTS01.onthenetoffice.com ([172.16.8.31]) by otnoex0.onthenetoffice.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:55:20 -0700 Received: from EX1MBX01.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::f9f4:b916:4b54:5534]) by ex1hts01.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::dcca:855d:bb32:dc3f%12]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:55:19 -0700 From: Jonas Payne To: "'Peter Arakelian'" , "'Listers'" Thread-Topic: [TR] slipping out of third Thread-Index: AQHNJZmmM+ua1RW2nkS0HfX1yMoUr5aw6VBg Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 23:55:18 +0000 Message-ID: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C18883C4E@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [172.16.12.67] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Apr 2012 23:55:20.0295 (UTC) FILETIME=[5E6C2770:01CD259A] Subject: Re: [TR] slipping out of third X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sounds like your detent springs are done. Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Peter Arakelian Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 4:46 PM To: Listers Subject: [TR] slipping out of third I have a 71 TR6 non-overdrive transmission. When I am in third, decelerating down hill, on occasion, it will slip out of gear. Not pop out, but occasionally slide out - it feels like I just stepped on the clutch. No other problems with transmission. Goes through all gears fine - up and down. No noise, no grinding. Only the occasional slide out of third. Diagnosis? Peter Arakelian ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jpayne@thorcon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 19:14:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A931C2D0713 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:14:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380182D040A for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:14:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Hvb06jvS c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=ayi1NyMVrHMA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=YBgy3SJohXvdVzZrCpEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 4B/92-16302-7069C9F4; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 01:14:48 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Jonas Payne'" , "'TR List'" References: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C18880AE6@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:14:47 -0700 Message-ID: <063e01cd25a5$785377a0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C18880AE6@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> Thread-Index: Ac0le1Y5IxksEt7QSXWygPFDxShLJgAKS/RQ Subject: Re: [TR] TR Overdrive in reverse. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > It would appear that the unit is coming out again, but > exactly what does > driving an OD in reverse do that is so bad? There is a one-way roller clutch (aka sprag clutch) in the tail housing that prevents the output shaft from turning any slower than the input (to the overdrive). However, when you try to back up with the OD engaged, the OD clutch and gears force the sprag clutch to turn backwards. I've only seen photos of the resulting damage, but it looked pretty bad. The outer race of the sprag clutch had broken, taking the tail housing with it. However, unless it felt like you were backing over a curb, or you felt a big lurch, most likely the OD didn't have enough pressure built to force the clutch backwards. Before you pull the gearbox & OD, I'd check that there isn't something else going on. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 19:24:26 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29AE92D0706 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:24:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm29.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm29.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.99]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 188092D03A9 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:20:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.66] by nm29.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 01:21:25 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.86] by tm6.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 01:21:25 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1023.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 01:21:25 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 545030.60855.bm@omp1023.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 48638 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Apr 2012 01:21:25 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1335662485; bh=pT4LKjCjjiLkDScBd4IkMvc5XnEwswfGD1Sz3e0HSq0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=G1Bi47AHnvqYWVozk3VoY9fZm8DIFrHoytQsD3ppUGXPk0IQzHKTV7nH6rxInTCLhRKUBeev7ZvMEhM180j65kbeyR8DBeOu5WhYftiToc40N8tpt2kEv75h+U3a+aC+qmKiQzR6qMLD10kxAjGcZLg3f2vi/a0KPsHi9oq4JoM= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=FRbhwgZqVwYF9/Vtq54/BKaO9tqlbLUKWPolMUpdZdWZWMxFCehO+dT496cp3mOFExsOcw8hnAsXZfJ9okKfOOC7UDdhEJF51WbwT3EQdZiP1f95ZRqfI7F7KCJG81x0eJQ1DVdgRM3DPSPl+xR5ZTwrcyxpWI1ApoYpjr/hC+8=; X-YMail-OSG: 0r4SkZoVM1kVD5dgHKqOjthcw.QB5i9Ktt4AJdXW_fklEKa 4b9fVUwyByvitMARmBWxwiPkLLhPEutFKTUrvNzhwVRPbhYToM5i8u0zzkSP bOJ76Jtjf7cpl5CsGQo9Uj1Mev5qDbWrh9.QW_DDHTULIhlFSRZUq58EsuF8 caj3zCKhqaTMAOZy1JILfB8JOkDbb6flFWnK_Ue1LRO2R9o0Q_cNiCDpQt3M KmsvX84EBrGYyIYYpdTejiGG8DxJAiZoppOOi6N21rxD91WpW6jMQFgpuzv1 Udtqio1qk7KUrZFkmvBHb4f0whSAmXjMANcKmgTQ43X3zWr4acg0GfJD8jUd dyZ.V2t6u5wXwKu1A.S7ldG1WuI.eje1GkW4uMXxtF6mqemnwvdwRYnrxJkY MrFZtm6rpxfG5MjBJ2hxd.EwW_F4W.tE1ZWZIeCHiPHDM_AFm4xeRyNEzkpw - Received: from [108.199.50.81] by web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:21:25 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/708 YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 Message-ID: <1335662485.28023.YahooMailRC@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:21:25 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [TR] TR Sighting - Tehachapi Willow Springs X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net So today after doing maintenance along the PCT (Pacific Crest Trail) with the Boy Scouts I was driving down Tehachapi Willow Springs road and encountered the glorious sight of about 9 TR's all driving in a row. They were in numeric order with the 3's in front and the 6's in back. You guys looked great and I wanted to join you but was wearing a Boy Scout assistant scoutmaster uniform and was driving a Honda... Were any of the drivers listers? Who were you guys? Where had you guys been? Tehachapi for lunch (a good spot) maybe? Buttonwillow isn't until next week, so it wasn't that. I wish that I had taken a photo you guys looked so good. If anyone reading this was there, let me know who you were. I might even have to join your club. My club is dominated by retirees driving new Jaguars. Bill Brewer Tehachapi, CA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 19:47:23 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 503C42D0715 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:47:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58242D0432 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:47:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=U+oQ/JXu c=1 sm=0 a=lvMqNBhA6pAmQ+bVfJeu/w==:17 a=svOtGqkXx8IA:10 a=rQ2oo-4okTYA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=JXA4TTVeAAAA:8 a=n-kJSqksAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=GXaOwb6r4CI5HVjHEi0A:9 a=S8Q1Kw2ZIMsuFh8X4pMA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=TCKadw0EZdoA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=VCc2XZhxTsHHUE-o:21 a=74T225-Jt_cug6kv:21 a=lvMqNBhA6pAmQ+bVfJeu/w==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 72.130.70.134 Received: from [72.130.70.134] ([72.130.70.134:48699] helo=Lambert1) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 07/3A-15508-7BD9C9F4; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 01:47:36 +0000 From: "D&B Lambert" To: "'William Brewer'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <1335662485.28023.YahooMailRC@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1335662485.28023.YahooMailRC@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:47:31 -0700 Message-ID: <4A444AEC588A4A5DB3211C0BCF50392B@Lambert1> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac0lpuwhi259HtTNTeCd6SxDf1je2QAAU4gg Subject: Re: [TR] TR Sighting - Tehachapi Willow Springs X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Bill, What I imagine you saw was the "Poppy Run" involving members from two Triumph Clubs: Triumph Register of Southern California (TRSC), and Southern California Triumph Owners Association (SCTOA). I wasn't able to make it today, but those that went left from Valencia, traveled to Tehachapi via back roads for lunch, and back. The mission was to see the poppies, but I understand that due the lack of timely rainfall this year poppies are in short supply. You can see a few pictures of the run on Facebook; just search "TRSC" (no quotes). Below are links to each club's website. Either club would be happy if you joined, I'm sure. Both are great clubs. http://www.trsc1977.com/ http://web.mac.com/sctoa/SCTOA/Welcome.html Regards, Dennis > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs- > bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of William Brewer > Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:21 PM > To: Triumphs > Subject: [TR] TR Sighting - Tehachapi Willow Springs > > So today after doing maintenance along the PCT (Pacific Crest Trail) with > the Boy Scouts I was driving down Tehachapi Willow Springs road and > encountered > the glorious sight of about 9 TR's all driving in a row. They were in numeric > order with the 3's in front and the 6's in back. You guys looked great and I > wanted to join you but was wearing a Boy Scout assistant scoutmaster > uniform and > was driving a Honda... > Were any of the drivers listers? Who were you guys? Where had you guys > been? Tehachapi for lunch (a good spot) maybe? Buttonwillow isn't until next > week, so it wasn't that. > I wish that I had taken a photo you guys looked so good. > If anyone reading this was there, let me know who you were. I might even > have to join your club. My club is dominated by retirees driving new Jaguars. > > Bill Brewer > Tehachapi, CA > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/blambert@socal.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 20:12:29 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C4432D06AD for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:12:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112DF2D0501 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:08:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=eq5dP/VX c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=rQ2oo-4okTYA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=s_J1YK6_MTw1T_DguvgA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 5C/0A-05935-6C2AC9F4; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 02:09:11 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'William Brewer'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <1335662485.28023.YahooMailRC@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:09:11 -0700 Message-ID: <064a01cd25ad$11dbf490$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1335662485.28023.YahooMailRC@web83304.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: Ac0lpurvcAXZXxpUSJyOFHSfyl33ZgABPWvA Subject: Re: [TR] TR Sighting - Tehachapi Willow Springs X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Bill, You missed the rest of the group: 8 more TRs and a Jensen Healey. I was kind of surprised you didn't join us for the run, guess you were busy with the Scouts. We started near the Valencia country club and took back roads all the way to the Apple Shed for lunch. Not as many poppies as I had hoped, but it was still a very nice run. Lots of sunshine and pretty country (although it did get chilly enough for a jacket coming through the pass). After lunch we broke up; I drove on up to look at the Tehachapi loop, then took the freeways back down to Angeles Crest highway and drove over those mountains as well. Unfortunately my OD crapped out; I'm guessing it has a broken wire inside the solenoid since it first started buzzing, then worked for a bit, then stopped altogether. Anyone have any suggestions for how to change an A-type solenoid without removing the trans tunnel? -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Apr 28 22:39:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3EC52D06CF for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 22:39:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 850722D04EF for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 22:39:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by obbeh20 with SMTP id eh20so3741457obb.14 for ; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:39:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=lLu8/Hw9VLufGAcZ25IaCGNH7fKmDhHzv7VI7TLwUbk=; b=oL2nox95PcoLaE3/dHCKrXniEEEzTAzsrf1wIpmUDxF+2E/UmftEhGRvsuZkufYmlq aeBF3dtsNumF5eD2EOYIPTeq+b/UbukRormTgYdGzih1g6epdR7s+QXbkIxNqx9x+2G7 boUw7+ZqvBBm1dXjpJXz1AHJWrRVftIcE5PEUMpsV/tPaZ63P46zKS3PlVZt2b11xZnt BtdBzfn7A3QkqJHhxOpC0hjpM6LSQ2Lxwp1nU2PPYHunvXzQ/4dS6ihBkL+0vZPjwZEC wcQoUlRsmZ8Cg4m+fYukv+mMBEcpCXuYoxMBMGHhOpe20oCaYAbflec1wL/NFjRPa+Zf UYQQ== Received: by 10.60.22.70 with SMTP id b6mr21402069oef.5.1335674393007; Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:39:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-26-49-194.phnx.qwest.net. [174.26.49.194]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s8sm10162827oec.1.2012.04.28.21.39.51 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4F9CC616.9060604@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 21:39:50 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumph List References: <4F9BF29F.5030707@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] Rebuilding TR3A engine X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 4/28/12 4:13 PM, David Ljung Madison wrote: > > TeriAnn writes: >> I highly recommend Greg Solow's Engine Room in Santa Cruz. >> >> They rebuilt my TR3's engine for me years ago,.. > I read about that on your "restoration horror story" :) > I'll have to give them a call, didn't realize that all happened > near the Bay Area. I was living in Aptos on the Monterey bay area. The body shop that did such a lousy job is in Santa Clara near the airport. The drive train work was farmed out to The Engine Room in Santa Cruz. I was not about to rebuild an engine outside in the dirt. I have since moved to Flagstaff, home of the 2012 Triumphest next September. I have no excuse to miss this one. > >> ..did a rack and pinion conversion for me > Interesting - that's high on my list as well, I was thinking about doing > it myself, but time is in limited supply right now. How long did the > rebuild take and how long did the R&P take? Check with the Engine Room to get an idea of how long the engine rebuild will take. A lot depends upon what you have done. For instance it took a while to have my crank nitrided and the engine has a lot of interesting things in it and done to it. I'm sure a straight stock rebuild would go a lot quicker. Also the R&P was their first conversion. If you use the Moss conversion like I did it would likely go quicker the second time around. But I had other work done at the same time so it took longer. new valves, new cam & lifters because the new oil formulation didn't protect it (I now focus on high ZDDP oils), new timing chain, gears and front housing as well. If you leave the car with them they could do the rack & pinion conversion the same time they do the engine & not take any extra time. Take care, TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 02:40:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B7D2D03A8 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 02:40:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm26.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm26.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.223]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id EBEBB2D0457 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 02:40:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.52.190] by nm26.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 08:40:48 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.145] by tm3.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 08:40:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1028.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 08:40:48 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 358920.77800.bm@omp1028.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 43977 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Apr 2012 08:40:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1335688847; bh=5rYg/c/bNL1XG7EvvJl0JKLNzqYz13Nr7d/MqIQjL2Y=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gFzaD41/ORGdmjEYcUaYTeRpplIZcy0mw832Hwje7Wv4fIS7ENda6hjsxwB+nHwkyBaiGvdEvsPLRFNHncejrSywtqNqy60pKb27o8ptswHSfQK+j97mQe8EUMnkyLvMeJI4iCyaLNrfngPjyJmUSD6KyR9rbW+c3r5T7lsSlkI= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fVLjfiagxQcn1wP8E7YJNNy2Sl5XVZyECf8uxB8zGKe7JObFNXTeeZkhEJqu1/8s3pPT0hzHgriTAK/PRTyaAKP/lWZiZgnT46cp/5nyNOz2zd0E+nWu2fcQTO1R0OVEsAeLli8sM/8AwMgCuB/rxWGUjb2bAS8wKlUqam8Zb2I=; X-YMail-OSG: dd9XoAEVM1nStRiaEyB7umvKAC0fQRskxQyy.ymCHUJUhyz 7IB0Zib7RS5xTt7rjaK_aDWfPWPAUazjkwNgU2Yvdxj2EFAjhjxZIPs8BaYK SHJAXiEyqeYD06cTDIyu8vKdGnUswqa__31ffUUEjbbK_OOZFzrXbTo1cf_E O1qgPAoHaiAF2usr02Kslg5Q71QUcQcXXgT6Yu_Fc4Odyxx.gMmaAaywMl4b W1ValXKMy9S1AslVIV84X90.dd9maaBxlu14_8KN0H0T7zdNd9Z7ED4cPNkJ UzqO4vX3PgBEEjFFqyuu3rGGfW3fyBA15ewvxX0iAC_3OKyHH3uv7xdDSHpg 7aI.RHUCmey3Gaaw09NQWZwemfRjvNfPq59CChHbG1szCGfRMGB9v1DRdSGk xM1PKGvfTK7fhOmbIpDE.kd0JZv6b5e9FjiUT.JA1P3uHetM0ve2QT2qXD7o - Received: from [96.240.91.193] by web39406.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 01:40:47 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.118.349524 Message-ID: <1335688847.31722.YahooMailNeo@web39406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 01:40:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Cosmo Kramer To: "pbrandsema@triad.rr.com" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: [TR] TR4 Oil Breather Pipe Oil Catch Tank X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cosmo Kramer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Paul wrote: Subject: TR4 Oil Breather Pipe Oil Catch Tank Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 From: I'm thinking about removing the plug from the TR4 engine block and replace with a breather pipe. Question is if I connect a hose from the pipe to a catch tank, will the pipe be as effective? -Paul ------------------------- +++++++++++ ------------- Hi Paul! You are really talking about changing the breathing system. So to answer this question more in detail, I would need to know more on how your breathing system is set up now. The TR4 made changes to this system two or three different times in that model. Well, as I remember the TR4 stock engine set up, the air enters in through the Oil Filler Cap & possibly out of the Valve Cover (VC). Now depending on the year of the car, when it was made (check the Vin #), to what changes TRIUMPH made on the breathing system. 1- I have seen VC's plugged & the TR3 breathing pipe. But I doubt that's what you have in your set up because you have mentioned about removing the plug to install a breathing tube to go into an ?Oil Tank? (I would like more info. on where you were putting this tank, how, & what ways you were planning on doing this.) 2- A tube out of the VC & into the center of each air filter. 3- A tube out of the VC & into the 'Gulp Valve' & then into the Intake Manifold (like that of the TR4A's system). As it was stated by Bill in his reply, you should have some venting system coming out of the tank so the 'Blow-by Gasses' (BBG) have a way to escape to reduce back pressure. In one of Kas's books, Joe A. tried having the 'BBG' go into the Exhaust System Which I tried, but had problems with the tube melting because of the heat. I'm still working on this project (to work out the details future). What exactly is your purpose of installing this tank? Please reply or phone me (716-438-3769) after 19:00 & I'd be more that willing to talk to you on what I've done so far & how that I may be of service. I really don't want to type all the details because of using up the lists limited space with pictures & not having this E-mail go through. -Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 06:07:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5076B2D03A8 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 06:07:58 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.enterhost.com (mail05.enterhost.com [208.65.128.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6BE32C0A3D for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 06:07:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 65-122-245-210.dia.static.qwest.net [65.122.245.210] by mail05.enterhost.com with SMTP; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 07:08:13 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: "G.D. Huggins" In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 07:08:08 -0500 Message-Id: <5C1DF201-1952-493F-8E42-154B36657595@genfiniti.com> References: To: Peter Arakelian X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: Listers Subject: Re: [TR] slipping out of third X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Peter, I have roughly 2500 miles on a freshly rebuilt gearbox and have the same issue. If I am in third, and keep my foot off the pedal, allowing the car to decelerate, in often comes out of gear. You are not alone, and I don't think this is rare, or really a problem. I will follow this thread with great interest. On Apr 28, 2012, at 6:46 PM, Peter Arakelian wrote: > I have a 71 TR6 non-overdrive transmission. When I am in third, decelerating > down hill, on occasion, it will slip out of gear. Not pop out, but > occasionally slide out - it feels like I just stepped on the clutch. No other > problems with transmission. Goes through all gears fine - up and down. No > noise, no grinding. Only the occasional slide out of third. > Diagnosis? > > Peter Arakelian > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/guy@genfiniti.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 07:40:33 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996B92D06C4 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 07:40:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa07-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa07-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.235]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1259F2D0405 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 07:34:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 16577 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2012 13:35:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (166.249.114.143) by p3plsmtpa07-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.192.235) with ESMTP; 29 Apr 2012 13:35:10 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'G.D. Huggins'" , "'Peter Arakelian'" References: <5C1DF201-1952-493F-8E42-154B36657595@genfiniti.com> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:34:56 -0400 Message-ID: <4C64D3D32D2F46E3BA0122EA922DF052@DCH6RFC1> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac0mANPdF7dNualzSOKx/uiwznDh3QAC7shQ In-Reply-To: <5C1DF201-1952-493F-8E42-154B36657595@genfiniti.com> Cc: 'Listers' Subject: Re: [TR] slipping out of third X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I don't think you can say "or really a problem". These cars have their quirks, but slipping out of gear is not one of them. I had my TR250 gearbox rebuilt by Racetorations in the UK and when I drove the car for the first time last month, it slipped out of gear. Racetorations is flying one of their guys out to Michigan to pull the gearbox and fix the problem. Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of G.D. Huggins Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 8:08 AM To: Peter Arakelian Cc: Listers Subject: Re: [TR] slipping out of third Peter, I have roughly 2500 miles on a freshly rebuilt gearbox and have the same issue. If I am in third, and keep my foot off the pedal, allowing the car to decelerate, in often comes out of gear. You are not alone, and I don't think this is rare, or really a problem. I will follow this thread with great interest. On Apr 28, 2012, at 6:46 PM, Peter Arakelian wrote: > I have a 71 TR6 non-overdrive transmission. When I am in third, decelerating > down hill, on occasion, it will slip out of gear. Not pop out, but > occasionally slide out - it feels like I just stepped on the clutch. No other > problems with transmission. Goes through all gears fine - up and down. No > noise, no grinding. Only the occasional slide out of third. > Diagnosis? > > Peter Arakelian > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/guy@genfiniti.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 07:54:00 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F6E42D06D2 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 07:54:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A493C2D03DF for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 07:53:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=ReYS+iRv c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=FI1tVYX-x-IA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=Ncn_RocuAAAA:8 a=DTpv4mQamlINOptYiekA:9 a=Lfn3i3UNLb5I8QupJjkA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=l49K2kjxAEIA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55006] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id FD/F2-07741-9F74D9F4; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:54:02 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: "'Listers'" References: <5C1DF201-1952-493F-8E42-154B36657595@genfiniti.com> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 06:54:01 -0700 Message-ID: <06c901cd260f$88a51ea0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <5C1DF201-1952-493F-8E42-154B36657595@genfiniti.com> Thread-Index: Ac0mANKsHK0vp6RsQgKCI7ejt8SgtAADVWaw Subject: Re: [TR] slipping out of third X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > If I am in third, and keep my foot off the pedal, allowing the car to > decelerate, in often comes out of gear. It's been a few years back, but a friend of mine had the same problem. After returning the box to the rebuilder twice, she took it to Herman van den Akker, who after much investigation discovered that the dog teeth didn't match the sleeves. Installing parts that match solved the problem. http://trf.zeni.net/TR6bluebook/index.php?page=85 Might not be your problem (Guy or Peter), but I would definitely check (right after checking the detent force). Unfortunately, the only way I know to check is to tear the gearbox down again. Even with the gears in your hands, you have to look close to see the differences. Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 07:57:45 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055FF2D070F for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 07:57:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm17-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm17-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 798CA2D04AE for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 07:57:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.180] by nm17.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 13:58:01 -0000 Received: from [68.142.200.227] by tm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 13:58:01 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.97] by t8.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 13:58:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 13:58:01 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 801884.76327.bm@omp1002.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 1882 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Apr 2012 13:58:01 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1335707881; bh=oKTwevIhP/Hzb0Afe+3obASPKbDOmIjyq07P/8ZvUs0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=odJ/JSa1MMSnQ4LCYA+lvUJ5DJ5qeVHk1+XWu7U/YJ4rzMSMhqfpIO981LW4z1NmwNjNo9Ra3kfmDWtCafaYbHnx0UO0Iiq8KSHUNGeMTbwoWcY5zHI9SkHX9teCv2Mmh2VuFUi2gd379gxBuAzP/A0xKfIda6PQcFRl4vK8Ttg= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NjQxLSKQDojjjAjrClaSfHrTBUvAEJWVaQoqSOqEM/+LKjNiIVsBWou+DEUT/aiggufDANyv/Sb62EAS6CDdbPaXzFLXrnHgePgbPepFzIY9zgzKFkSO3dxj7+JWBZ2cKQC+fSBLH6eCLKvVdSeWLU3PkDdmpg4uSv/fF+tlwBw=; X-YMail-OSG: oNDmNC8VM1mEgXbj8o0DngZ6Xqj2w_niG_lia1p_dtzQ7ig x2QklJhC8k2flsHQuK19gJA.p0XXwpPz8iyL7vAzeEXtOFlFu5q7Qxqcn3pL p6YXG86fMU3lZ8JdrVH0e3GA7aa9LnP0GmSJh0JpbmAnUvZaPnKeYObDiwK5 IwvOxvbLpfpri_nTnj84uD3uoE4vkivwA64HgM19QVQM8ZhtyNtkgi5kopLa IESBNPMZFZmo79dXZeKTKi1DLgAff9TDfFTFzkUBSM7WgHuouAzIj8zBwNsW xuvTF.tc..F4tCWZ77tWd8abrE4jowNncYpAZ8L3cC.pAx3Jz2wf2zFRaZTL HAJS3klu5kUays2MwdI7wH0eQvfwg6J5Ddhl9pkHvlwHeNgNBz7GCgVwtxIR eRoWtekY6FI25Ipdzb6NaeCdhZCUnNmc81_tKnY9ImPoHoA-- Received: from [24.147.73.179] by web181018.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 06:58:01 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/15.0.6 YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 Message-ID: <1335707881.94163.YahooMailClassic@web181018.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 06:58:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Q To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [TR] Subject: slipping out of third X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have had similar problems with a few Tr4 transmissions in the past. It is often an indication that the shifter detent springs are too soft. You can add shims (I used small washers) to bring the pressure back up. I use a fish scale on the shift rods to check the tension. It can be done with the trans in the car but you will need to remove the trans tunnel. There is a factory service notice about this for Tr4 as they changed the detent pin type to increase the resistence. A Tr6 should have been built with the upgraded parts unless someone in the murky past has changed to a TR4 shifter or trans in your car. Edward Hamer Petaluma CA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 09:46:08 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7B9C2D04FB for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:46:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13CCE2D06FB for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:38:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.87]) by qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3rN71j0021swQuc58reu9Z; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:38:54 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.58.113]) by omta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3reu1j00Z2SagsU3breudM; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:38:54 +0000 Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:38:53 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-ID: <606971642.1534284.1335713933432.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <06c901cd260f$88a51ea0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [75.67.80.110] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Subject: [TR] Bonderize? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Camshaft came back from the machine shop. But the lobes weren't polished. They have this black stuff all over them and it looks fairly gritty. The book I'm using says "if the camshaft has been reground, degrease thoroughly, bonderize, and soak in graphite." What the heck is bonderize? And shouldn't the machine shop have polizhed the lobes? ...Or is it polished, but just being protected by something I have to take off somehow? No telling, not knowing! Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 09:46:55 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F26672D0746 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:46:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 541E12C07F9 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:46:42 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=ReYS+iRv c=1 sm=0 a=64C/LzBBforKVySGcfpcRA==:17 a=T3xOmAtW2PYA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=BlEeyTZB9FxsqOcjfEIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=glB_hYdgrKpmsMT5JKsA:9 a=FhPacAk2X7cWC5TSv6YA:7 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=64C/LzBBforKVySGcfpcRA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.89.87.109 Received: from [76.89.87.109] ([76.89.87.109:31547] helo=JohnnieD) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id D1/1E-07741-0826D9F4; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:47:13 +0000 From: "John & Pat Donnelly" To: Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 08:47:13 -0700 Message-ID: <000001cd261f$59095d40$0b1c17c0$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac0mH1hPRAC03wHMSoiiHcZ3UeCK6Q== Content-Language: en-us X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR4 Fan Balancing X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am removing my eight blade fan and returning to the original four blade metal one. The metal one had been sitting in the bin for 10 years, so I bought the fan mounting kit and discovered the balancing piece. How is it used? How do I know if I need it? I couldn't find anything in the two manuals I have, except to have them say to replace it the way it came off (that's real helpful). Johnnie ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 09:47:19 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6E252D0743 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:47:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0049D2C07F9 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:47:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.59]) by qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3rTX1j0031GhbT859rndKK; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:47:37 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.58.113]) by omta07.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3rnf1j00u2SagsU3Trnfla; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:47:39 +0000 Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:47:35 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-ID: <1222875884.1534563.1335714455338.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <06c901cd260f$88a51ea0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [75.67.80.110] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Subject: [TR] TR3A Front Cam Bearing X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net About this front bearing for the cam, I normally replace all bearings in a rebuild, but this doesn't actually look like a bearing at all. No babbit, for one, or at least what I grew up calling the material that faces the moving part. ...Or do the other three bearings in the block control the spin, and the front bearing just the back and forth drift? Terry Smith, '59 TR3A TS 58667 New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 10:02:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 727942D06DB for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 10:02:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 420502D0445 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:53:58 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=ReYS+iRv c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=xW9k7wtf81Rxz0p2SR4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55006] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 6A/E8-07741-4346D9F4; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:54:29 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , References: <06c901cd260f$88a51ea0$0601a8c0@randall> <1222875884.1534563.1335714455338.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 08:54:28 -0700 Message-ID: <06f701cd2620$5c815080$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1222875884.1534563.1335714455338.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Thread-Index: Ac0mH3Cvi1jrILxWTC+g4nnxI1pU1QAAGfFA Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Front Cam Bearing X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The front cam bearing takes more side force than the other 3, as it also takes the force from the chain turning the cam. Check it for wear. If not too badly worn, you can reuse it. But it's replaceable because it does wear. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 10:03:15 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A9022D0719 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 10:03:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F3E2D0457 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 10:03:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=bLSU0YCZ c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=v4e4gO3tAAAA:20 a=bfTD6eC33vMKtVT3jIwA:9 a=SfirMQmJM0uEwifxgbMA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id F2/4B-29249-5566D9F4; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 16:03:33 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: <000001cd261f$59095d40$0b1c17c0$@rr.com> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:03:33 -0700 Message-ID: <06f801cd2621$a12c6570$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <000001cd261f$59095d40$0b1c17c0$@rr.com> Thread-Index: Ac0mH1hPRAC03wHMSoiiHcZ3UeCK6QAAYEJQ Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Fan Balancing X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I am removing my eight blade fan and returning to the > original four blade > metal one. The metal one had been sitting in the bin for 10 > years, so I > bought the fan mounting kit and discovered the balancing > piece. How is it > used? How do I know if I need it? You'll need a balancing jig, to balance the fan/hub/pulley assembly. HF sells one for balancing motorcycle tires (but the one I got had a stiff bearing that had to be replaced). Instructions are in the TR3 workshop manual, page C9. http://tinyurl.com/83x4e45 After all that, mine seemed to be adequately balanced without any weights. But it still didn't cool enough in prolonged stop-and-go traffic, so I eventually installed an electric fan instead. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 10:04:56 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D68632D0754 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 10:04:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8BCD2D044A for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 10:04:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=eq5dP/VX c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=nhcak4JJ-1yGbNFXQZwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55003] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 43/E1-05935-AB66D9F4; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 16:05:14 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , References: <06c901cd260f$88a51ea0$0601a8c0@randall> <606971642.1534284.1335713933432.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:05:14 -0700 Message-ID: <06f901cd2621$dd64a7f0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <606971642.1534284.1335713933432.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Thread-Index: Ac0mH0Zd6jjQwpBXSG64/l/C5M7C+QAAnKqw Subject: Re: [TR] Bonderize? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Camshaft came back from the machine shop. But the lobes > weren't polished. They have this black stuff all over them > and it looks fairly gritty. I'd ask the machine shop what it is. Chances are that it's graphite or similar; but why take a chance? -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 11:05:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658322D06FB for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:05:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330732D033F for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 10:55:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CarlPC ([unknown] [71.100.23.244]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0M3900H0H320IN70@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:56:25 -0500 (CDT) From: "Carl TR" To: Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 12:56:24 -0400 Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac0mKQJX4D8Nz4lgRuqc5vRTTZJphQ== Expiry-date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 00:00:00 -0400 Subject: [TR] TR3 Heater leak test X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: cfmtr3a@verizon.net List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I need to test the heater core before I install it. Any do's don'ts? Is there any issue with hooking up a hose to both sides and let water flow through? I would think that it shouldn't be 'closed' at the other end because I believe the pressure would be too high. Thanks Carl 1961 Triumph TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ Still being restored - but 2012 looks like the year.. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 11:21:38 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B1F2D06C8 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:21:38 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45EBF2D046A for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:21:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3sqU1j0011smiN4AEtMz6l; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:21:59 +0000 Received: from Dell ([24.5.127.12]) by omta20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 3tMy1j0040GAcNo8gtMy1X; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:21:58 +0000 From: "Kinderlehrer" To: "'TeriAnn J. Wakeman'" , References: <4F9BF29F.5030707@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F9BF29F.5030707@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 10:22:10 -0700 Message-ID: <001d01cd262c$9c6602c0$d5320840$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac0lRB5NGWGC4f3mQPGwsgw01ti5TwA5/pDA Subject: Re: [TR] Rebuilding TR3A engine X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: kinderlehrer@comcast.net List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net You can also try Dave at British Motorsports in Campbell http://www.britishmotorsportsinc.com/ or Vern at Vern's Autoclinic in Fremont http://www.vernsautoclinic.com/ Vern doesn't specialize in British cars, but has a lot of experience. Bob -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 6:38 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Rebuilding TR3A engine Area code 415. My guess is that you are in driving distance of Santa Cruz, CA. I highly recommend Greg Solow's Engine Room in Santa Cruz. They have a LOT of experience with the TR four cylinder engine from pure stock to full race builds in TRs & Morgans. They rebuilt my TR3's engine for me years ago, summer before last did a rack and pinion conversion for me and just last summer put in a new limited slip diff for me. They know what they are doing. On 4/28/12 5:26 AM, David Ljung Madison wrote: > Suggestions of shops/places to either get or rebuild a TR3/TR3A engine? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Dave Ljung Madison http://GetDave.com/ 415.341.5555 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 13:26:04 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A72D2D068D for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:26:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (nm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.94.237.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 029C12D02C6 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:25:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [66.94.237.196] by nm3.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 19:26:15 -0000 Received: from [98.139.221.49] by tm7.access.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 19:26:15 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp102.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 19:26:15 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1335727575; bh=j4P6DAHXX8KnSVdVNb7WzPsiifk1DAH6KF5qdF0KXkU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index; b=aHY6Ps41Rdgmeu9w+vphzXK6SBL9KDAP4PqIOw7PbXgy7Q+3uDWG3i68Ny7KTLeNhHPR+5RYCzokUtFSSZ/cn9jojYDp9dP9QrYpxdeRog/Zz7UEnFHEgdKWl6cruBG6Bx8A2LvyLpmmhkk4LGprKjX1G8fuPNzE9tXWegftmjs= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 161999.92103.bm@smtp102.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 7Qv2IokVM1kHW4pc3XkWtBTTLjq0tawIA7XKVOPZOrNB_3k WZBKO7dNUHQXdKhQNPZH_nq_vP0WTE97PSYa3q2G70u1S9Oa0aa65iK5nxFw X4WBEH8mXl8wXx6aP1D05URQPRB1n_X8KJrsBP5OqHmWzkeDEdXt.RbfU0rp T6euGii_gpaCT1Ei4v169uaEzoo0B62I5oUq9LGu4ADRByDGGmaXcqvCSb8J vCxAiO2Eh.hI7pyi.h9vZsnvfW6F8MHavnL1DftyqjaP5FS2emJG4tI2A5QS P55z0vfZzNqE9T2VzegdS4k22GGDB1zHLnyL2Aru5aY6MRZezgIkAhbzDKct AvbB.vV2J8EPiOeOm9o7OkvoEm0GLJP_ds0b83qjwRCULww.TkujHy4bWJSG spc1brCkjdCw7X5dCeEf1ljpPPxbZvhHGrN.B3y5Yr3hXMip.CE9CjRyuLnq aDhMH_PeQQvxrHdPI.EbDRAoXVyRk.YztLM5_XB8H.4R_llbVqoPzkCig5wD BQO0NFIQxx6EAp_eTfvK2wx5FhyVZOMXCgO4Qi.B5A5jWsyiVscc5QzTHezd oeMZW X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp102.sbc.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2012 12:26:14 -0700 PDT From: To: , References: Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 14:26:11 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac0mKQJX4D8Nz4lgRuqc5vRTTZJphQAEwr1w Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Heater leak test X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yes, pressure from your garden hose would be too much, probably around 40-50psi. Just running water through it would not hurt it, but may not find a small leak either. You could fill it an let it stand overnight and see if there is any seepage, or take it to a local radiator shop and let them test it at a low pressure, remember you cap is only a 4psi rating. Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Carl TR Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 11:56 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR3 Heater leak test I need to test the heater core before I install it. Any do's don'ts? Is there any issue with hooking up a hose to both sides and let water flow through? I would think that it shouldn't be 'closed' at the other end because I believe the pressure would be too high. Thanks Carl 1961 Triumph TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ Still being restored - but 2012 looks like the year.. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 13:30:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9330C2D0686 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:30:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 209832D03A5 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:30:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from CarlPC ([unknown] [71.100.23.244]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0M390037GA7SWMD0@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 14:31:05 -0500 (CDT) From: "Carl TR" To: , References: In-reply-to: Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:31:05 -0400 Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: AQK4J5oLzbRartuP0xMHqppyx7nEpALcRr6alMVLoyA= Expiry-date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 00:00:00 -0400 Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Heater leak test X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: cfmtr3a@verizon.net List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Bill - you confirmed my concerns.... Will find a rad shop tomorrow. C 1961 Triumph TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ Still being restored - but 2012 looks like the year.. -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of wbeech@flash.net Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 3:26 PM To: cfmtr3a@verizon.net; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Heater leak test Yes, pressure from your garden hose would be too much, probably around 40-50psi. Just running water through it would not hurt it, but may not find a small leak either. You could fill it an let it stand overnight and see if there is any seepage, or take it to a local radiator shop and let them test it at a low pressure, remember you cap is only a 4psi rating. Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Carl TR Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 11:56 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR3 Heater leak test I need to test the heater core before I install it. Any do's don'ts? Is there any issue with hooking up a hose to both sides and let water flow through? I would think that it shouldn't be 'closed' at the other end because I believe the pressure would be too high. Thanks Carl 1961 Triumph TR3A - TS81802LO http://mysite.verizon.net/cfmtr3a/ Still being restored - but 2012 looks like the year.. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 14:14:43 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065082D075A for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 14:14:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.64]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 488E52D0753 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 14:12:34 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=Z71jSn+VZDxrxqiKUq5lR+RpF4msjqIWWFLE+dn9ql8ADJiwWFo+RujkQxNKFipJ; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [69.81.21.129] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1SOaUN-00052G-Ft for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 16:12:59 -0400 Message-ID: <4F9DA0D4.3000404@rmi.net> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:13:08 -0500 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120319 Thunderbird/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-ELNK-Trace: 007d46394eab33d9f572e6f2f007804134d0fe683a84d0db23df5c8ebc03f2bd3ca473d225a0f487350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.81.21.129 Subject: [TR] Spitfire Turn Signals X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi, I am hoping someone can help me with a puzzle I am having about the turn signals not working. I struggle to diagnose electrical problems. The turn signals on both sides of my 80 Spitfire stopped working. The hazard flashers also stopped working. All of my fuses are okay and things on the same fuse as the turn signals work. Knowing that the turnsignal and hazard flashers both run through the hazard switch, I pulled the hazard switch several times and got it so that the hazard flasher would work part of the time - the turn signals still never worked. I got the hazard switch and cleaned each contact. Now the hazard flashers work reliably. Turn signals still don't. There appear to be two power wires going to the hazard switch. Purple had power all of the time and green when ignition is on. If I jump between the purple and green, the turn signals work. With the jumper removed they still don't work. It looks like the powered green wire comes from the voltage stabilizer. There is continuity between the voltage stabilizer and the green wire in the hazard switch. So, I am at a loss. The turn signals works when the purple and green wire are jumped. So, I have ruled out the switch and the relay. The fuse is fine. The lights all light up appropriately when using either the hazard flasher or jumped turn signals. So lights and grounds seem to be okay. There is continuity between the voltage regulator and the green wire at the hazard switch. Though when I check for voltage at the green wire, there isn't any. I expected voltage, but not sure how there can't be since there is continuity with the voltage stabilizer and there is power to the stabilizer. Any suggestions on what the problem is? (besides my lack of electronic knowledge :)) Thanks, Roger Elliott 1980 Spitfire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 15:24:35 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00BE62D0754 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:24:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm14.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm14.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.211]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 831122D0753 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:24:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.52.197] by nm14.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 21:24:54 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.177] by tm10.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 21:24:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1060.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2012 21:24:54 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 274813.99311.bm@omp1060.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 38462 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Apr 2012 21:24:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1335734694; bh=xnl26uZRIhvLSdpfjIopkhi2KWscC0/h230qWEt9nZc=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=I+mapKJPBXZ1r7qZK1U8TeCTvKhZiiyuxoKr8ZzpL74uFbbiiilfU6t8GMF8gej68PwYjfdgFWal3sK3eZ8HfZjt+H8Mu7sR5aF61uchzLD5Li+0im9VP+dehj0TiBLG/6tJr14HQzux2mnxBLf+YmJGIAAd2FZpISFc2oEYE6E= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=OhjwDrhlCCRqUVq8khFEKJh4iZFh5LJ9fk/ivKvO7R46diL52ROhvgswqS2itquPPb8XyLGfGRdpqmn02iWi2HY1qHsOeH8HYm0PrOoo9HNFccyPuw2XbpsP0Mj2x9dDpXzA0vwO8lUccz5kF8wchXcHbZ9PCRtXoD+EGZoTG4U=; X-YMail-OSG: b2xjlfEVM1lr.As9RwzCLuloH5NfcgJ4QMn9ZV3UFQOcJrv H4sDLJJYk6JReNvukOhWn8MX9C2JDhmJGRNwUCsLPY_xoabxxeC7tY_F0Zhg bTcuR0XiSgHCGrjRi3uE1G7dVCEJe73mM48B0FmG69R8B23lRozx.s5s.LTW Io5SzXL9HpJrb6XQaa5QcO0LWT36GYns5t7vBL6IRTKR0EGt.2u_WxHIJEcQ xxl8hcQgLJUVX6sICUW4SyeUHYk2PcS3BR0KSR82_GpHpaVHkhE1b1qYE6xk Jza.HhH1FzOhjcNTH85NEmm_9n0tsv8bnzLASLuKd6cGpUhhZAWrFsKDyM8b F3ULVR8dhAOcEktpzgiVjfoX9ToUtXgVZeZKbClhR25WgZXeKGvgdoCcBGJo ql66Lqj6t79_.0rw- Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web65511.mail.ac4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 14:24:54 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.117.340979 Message-ID: <1335734694.76731.YahooMailNeo@web65511.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 14:24:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] overdrive in reverse X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Nafziger List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If it's some consolation I also was in a position with my tr-6. I'd loaned it out to a high school kid for prom. (I KNEW I should have unplugged the wiring for the overdrive) Any way he parked it in front of my garage and left. I got in and found it was still in overdrive. I COULD NOT get it out of gear or overdrive. Pushed the clutch in and no difference. nothing worked. I finally gritted my teeth and backed up about 5-6 feet just enough to get turned and going forward. The backing up was excruciating because it did buck and bind something awful. I got turned around and drove forward and clicked it out of overdrive and unplugged it and never used it for a year. I never even tested it! Then a year later I plugged it in............tested it and it worked! Have been using it ever since. very very grateful for actually having dodged a bullet, which doesn't happen often! sooo you might not be as bad off as you think. gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 15:50:13 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B9602D07E7 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:50:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD26C2D07B8 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:49:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120429215023.IZDN24708.mta31.charter.net@imp10> for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:50:23 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.139.40]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id 3xqN1j00R0sV6Ds05xqNhg; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:50:23 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=JYQIUidRAECiNa+jsiaNMIhYElg3H2WoMKCJIGO75f4= c=1 sm=1 a=8snUs5QzE7cA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=sB3BXsIfANGg2wjxVdtBBQ==:17 a=VPajTqpJAAAA:8 a=QHwMbmJeRR2OGZ_j6i4A:9 a=rLAid-O_ks4TwprcSLUA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=sB3BXsIfANGg2wjxVdtBBQ==:117 Message-ID: <4F9DB7A1.8000406@charter.net> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:50:25 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120420 Thunderbird/12.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <4F9DA0D4.3000404@rmi.net> In-Reply-To: <4F9DA0D4.3000404@rmi.net> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120429-0, 04/29/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [TR] Spitfire Turn Signals X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 4/29/2012 4:13 PM, Roger Elliott wrote: > Hi, > > I am hoping someone can help me with a puzzle I am having about the > turn signals not working. I struggle to diagnose electrical problems. All right, let's go! Have you studied this? http://www.triumphspitfire.com/images/wiring/78diagram.jpg The purple wire is hot all the time. This provides current to operate the flashers independent of the ignition switch. (So they'll work while you walk to the gas station). The green wire is hot with the ignition on - and all the current goes through the ignition switch. The voltage stabiliser is merely a stop on the way - the current for the turn signal does not pass through it. I've never taken one apart, but I /assume/ that the emergency flasher switch connects the two sides together, and energises the flasher (via the purple wire) so they blink. When not flashing, it allows the current from the green wire to pass through to the flasher, then on to the turn signal switch and the lamps. If I understand you correctly, you have power att eh green wire when the ignition is on. You should also then have power on the light green/gray wire going to the flasher. If not, the problem is probably internal to your flasher switch. You can get some contact cleaner and spray it inside while operating the switch repeatedly - you may have to remove it to do this. Most of the problems I've seen with these switches (and dimmer rheostats) is due to the fact that they are almost never used, and develop a good coating of schmutz, which prevents them form making good contact. Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 16:03:32 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 514B92D07D9 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 16:03:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03FF2D03FB for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 15:58:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.74]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q3TLx2BH024702 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:59:02 -0400 Received: from core-moc004a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moc004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.13]) by mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 48632E000089 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:59:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <5cfc.14d7259c.3ccf13a5@cs.com> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 17:59:01 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1335736742; bh=nL4ZVhFCnxxqD9UnJMoPUHzs1P6sqdZABmaN/EI48XM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=k/pYcMHzC33BJMjZ5JkIyxw6BAzl+hwHG8b3RMgcZkf42TOQBmEaZ4kIE2Qfba/et ysAQlAFge9gvhAjRyYgA7k2MMT3CAhbD3p1wcSZ5XiIQJMsnixyTHdRkmDvPdP1aSV I4QM+Zw2CeJRDPTOd7yZYBtuDd50sYx9YyU8H/cc= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:486487264:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a4f9db9a54ec0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Spitfire Turn Signals X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The power for the turn signals also powers other items as you noted. Including the gauges which are powered by the voltage stabilizer. Triumph liked to daisy chain loads on a common circuit so the power would be fed to one device and then on to another and another, etc. Just what the sequence is something to be determined through examination, but the things on that fused circuit include the heater, wipers, reverse lights, brake lights and gauges. If all these things work then the next place to look is the flasher. There are two flashers on your car (all cars with the emergency flashers) The turn signals and the emergency flashers each use its own flasher so the fact that the EME flashers work doesn't absolve the turn signal flasher. I don't know where that flasher is on a Spitfire but look for a flasher with a green wire (as opposed to the purple wire). Good luck. Dave In a message dated 4/29/2012 3:14:58 PM Central Daylight Time, elliottr@rmi.net writes: > I am hoping someone can help me with a puzzle I am having about the turn > signals not working. I struggle to diagnose electrical problems. > > The turn signals on both sides of my 80 Spitfire stopped working. The > hazard flashers also stopped working. All of my fuses are okay and > things on the same fuse as the turn signals work. > > Knowing that the turnsignal and hazard flashers both run through the > hazard switch, I pulled the hazard switch several times and got it so > that the hazard flasher would work part of the time - the turn signals > still never worked. > > I got the hazard switch and cleaned each contact. Now the hazard > flashers work reliably. Turn signals still don't. > > There appear to be two power wires going to the hazard switch. Purple > had power all of the time and green when ignition is on. If I jump > between the purple and green, the turn signals work. With the jumper > removed they still don't work. > > It looks like the powered green wire comes from the voltage stabilizer. > There is continuity between the voltage stabilizer and the green wire in > the hazard switch. > > So, I am at a loss. > > The turn signals works when the purple and green wire are jumped. So, I > have ruled out the switch and the relay. > > The fuse is fine. > > The lights all light up appropriately when using either the hazard > flasher or jumped turn signals. So lights and grounds seem to be okay. > > There is continuity between the voltage regulator and the green wire at > the hazard switch. Though when I check for voltage at the green wire, > there isn't any. I expected voltage, but not sure how there can't be > since there is continuity with the voltage stabilizer and there is power > to the stabilizer. > > > Any suggestions on what the problem is? (besides my lack of electronic > knowledge :)) ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 16:54:21 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C822D07CC for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 16:54:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067862D07AD for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 16:53:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.12]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q3TMsH6x018760; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 18:54:17 -0400 Received: from core-mhe002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mhe002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.239.130]) by mtaomg-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 9550FE000082; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 18:54:16 -0400 (EDT) References: <606971642.1534284.1335713933432.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> To: terryrs@comcast.net, triumphs@autox.team.net In-Reply-To: <606971642.1534284.1335713933432.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Andrew S. Mace" X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 36032-STANDARD Received: from 69.195.55.93 by webmail-d180.sysops.aol.com (205.188.162.232) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 29 Apr 2012 18:54:14 -0400 Message-Id: <8CEF472224755AA-F34-1774C@webmail-d180.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [69.195.55.93] Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 18:54:14 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1335740057; bh=fXZtk9PyscMk7wKOzSKEbbmlSXXeqb9dDPpGi5bEfFI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=w5W2AsQLsG/0zIp04vThbFrTJTGGAtaOfiI4PBv6FTdodRffDvpBwT2DkIsTgqbGn j6jThTo2RVh0gpPznrzVQRIbZhP1Td7OHauMT+xGYBFKep6ZAAudDilRa/UIJH2vuK SQOap4SSdpMUNehHfQ/GaPLtSxBFWcLGvOJi5Now= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:354660320:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 2 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290c4f9dc6985d45 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Bonderize? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net To "Bonderize" is simply to coat something in (usually) a phosphate solution for rust protection. Maybe that coating is why the cam lobes don't look to be polished? --Andy Mace *Mrs Irrelevant: Oh, is it a jet? *Man: Well, no ... It's not so much of a jet, it's more your, er, Triumph Herald engine with wings. -- Cut-price Airlines Sketch, Monty Python's Flying Circus (22) Triumph 10 / Herald / Sports 6 vehicle consultant, The Vintage Triumph Register: http://www.vtr.org Check out the North American Triumph Sports 6 (Vitesse 6) and Triumph Herald Database: http://triumph-herald.us -----Original Message----- From: terryrs What the heck is bonderize? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 20:49:58 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291CA2D0AF5 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 20:49:58 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73812D04BB for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 19:48:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=bLSU0YCZ c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=eTt5uvyxoPV3fqisLbkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 4B/18-29249-58FED9F4; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 01:48:53 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Roger Elliott'" , References: <4F9DA0D4.3000404@rmi.net> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 18:48:54 -0700 Message-ID: <07a401cd2673$66b4ec80$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4F9DA0D4.3000404@rmi.net> Thread-Index: Ac0mRMun/Jfe853cTxqiPMKalbkfywALQE0A Subject: Re: [TR] Spitfire Turn Signals X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > There is continuity between the voltage regulator and the > green wire at > the hazard switch. Though when I check for voltage at the > green wire, > there isn't any. Checking for continuity is always a tricky business, especially with other things connected to the circuit. The "continuity" you see may be through those devices and ground; or may be too high resistance to operate the load. (For example, many continuity testers will show 10 ohms or so as a connection; but 10 ohms is much too high to power turn signals.) If there is no voltage on the green wire with the ignition on, then the problem is somewhere between where you are checking and the battery. Since presumably the gauges powered by the voltage stabilizer do work, the problem must be between that point and the stabilizer. Could be a broken wire, but my money is on the tab on the VS being broken, corroded, or simply not connected properly. (It is sometimes easy to slide the blade between the terminal and the plastic covering, which can sometimes make a connection that will show continuity but not pass enough power to actually run anything.) -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 21:46:39 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62BE52D0B81 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 21:46:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com (mail-iy0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18DA02D07F9 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 21:00:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iajr24 with SMTP id r24so5336540iaj.14 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 20:00:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ARZPwHv5FohKGWe6S24aFmEt0tBzOTUV8tQf9JQjGls=; b=pFWLziMPfDA+zhRnh+467oaPYdqzugomPqq+kc2IN9skJfM23f1Syx/J0Y7eBZWFP9 B4BRnUVvDAVcrtp8V5ng4H9lQnOEamp+uV7Kb6sXd4eiLZWYdrGoA+zhp5ft12wOJrCu FHQOR9fHXEf6Je9ZeYdN+hTOdKPY0UoX2m88crKPdRHcyXlKqQGnqSHl3xLJS81WJa5p nCevjyuEwd/8tAqtfwr6SXPIo7BhEGd0fzxLEIVcAclQbdT2Wv2dPkDmqDVAv7+ooMgE QzFuuCD6LbPyvcCncBWPi9GwHhCmfCqHmBuFDeWjlhZ1aot71JQZ681VKnVWWO5BafTH H2OQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.188.138 with SMTP id ga10mr9044122igc.51.1335754859368; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 20:00:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.97.10 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 20:00:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3D425E57197145D89954C28477195A2D@bboffice> References: <20120428024332.IVV8P.22328.root@hrndva-web09-z01> <3D425E57197145D89954C28477195A2D@bboffice> Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 20:00:59 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Lee&John Howard" To: wbeech@flash.net X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, pbrandsema@triad.rr.com Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Oil Breather Pipe Oil Catch Tank X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I installed the TR3 style breather pipe in the crankcase of my 65 TR4 and I like to think the reduced pressure lessened the leakage through the rear oil seal. However I don't much like adding those noxious fumes to my already nasty exhaust and eventually would like to run the pipe to a catch filer of some kind. JohnH On Sat, Apr 28, 2 On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 9:21 AM, wrote: > The pipe would be effective as long as there is free air flow at the end. > Ques: Why not just go with the TR3 pipe set up? > Bill > > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > pbrandsema@triad.rr.com > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:44 PM > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] TR4 Oil Breather Pipe Oil Catch Tank > > I'm thinking about removing the plug from the TR4 engine block and replaice > with a breather pipe. Question is if I connect a hose from the pipe to a > catch tank, will the pipe be as effective? > > Paul > 61 TR4 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/leejohn7@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Apr 29 21:48:42 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52D642D0C95 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 21:48:42 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66A92D0978 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 21:10:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.6]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q3U3AVas020098 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 23:10:31 -0400 Received: from [10.0.1.2] (ip72-213-139-102.ok.ok.cox.net [72.213.139.102]) by mtaout-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id C2583E0000E9 for ; Sun, 29 Apr 2012 23:10:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Sam Clark Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2012 22:10:30 -0500 Message-Id: To: triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1257) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1257) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1335755431; bh=/SB25GU/iz/aooVyXnxoQXyfiSlyPOVL9uUB0FiwIys=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=tuwpb7JkMeQARRuvuIL3HtdOPQ8iqlA2vI70PXP3mG0vnudgUCrdn4q2wlP2ecnO8 UPwLsjO/t0lYdFNr3yIjms4chRGg98ODXSwv2W4HaIAqCn2UPaABhdCn+ijBvbXQde byOWAdEAvmMN55u3nnX5sb3mXG6XQaG7RbgwWO/I= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:360570720:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29064f9e02a66bad X-AOL-IP: 72.213.139.102 Subject: [TR] GT6 Throttle Adjustment X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Greetings. I hope someone out there can help. My '72 GT6 ZS 150 carbs won't achieve full throttle. When you push on the pedal the butterflies open just past half way. I can't figure out how to adjust the linkage to get them to open more. These throttles are operated by a center cable pull arrangement. I have adjusted the cable to take out all of the play but they still won't open fully. I have looked at the accelerator pedal and don't see a way to adjust it. The manual is useless in this regard. Any help would be appreciated. BTW, the South Central VTR Regional was this past weekend and we had a great event. Sorry if you couldn't make it. TIA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 30 05:25:14 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8952D08D6 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 05:25:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from xsmtp08.mail2web.com (xsmtp08.mail2web.com [168.144.250.229]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0DF2D075A for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 04:54:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [10.5.41.7] (helo=M2W107.mail2web.com) by xsmtp08.mail2web.com with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1SOoFJ-0003g1-Jn; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 06:54:36 -0400 Message-ID: <380-220124130105517138@M2W107.mail2web.com> X-Originating-IP: 68-7-42-65 X-URL: http://mail2web.com/ From: "v6spitfireguy@cox.net" To: terryrs@comcast.net Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 06:55:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Bonderize? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: v6spitfireguy@cox.net List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Without actually viewing it, I believe the finish your seeing is referred to as Parkerized Every camshaft that I have ever had new or reground has had this done to it. It looks and feels like very fine (1000 grit) sandpaper You do not remove it, just clean and install with camshaft lube - (Excerpt taken from the Wikipedia site) Parkerizing, bonderizing, phosphating, or phosphatizing is a method of protecting a steel surface from corrosion and increasing its resistance to wear through the application of an electrochemical phosphate conversion coating. Parkerizing is usually considered to be an improved zinc or manganese phosphating process, and not to be an improved iron phosphating process, although some use the term parkerizing as a generic term for applying phosphating (or phosphatizing) coatings that does include the iron phosphating process. Original Message: ----------------- Camshaft came back from the machine shop. But the lobes weren't polished. They have this black stuff all over them and it looks fairly gritty. The book I'm using says "if the camshaft has been reground, degrease thoroughly, bonderize, and soak in graphite." What the heck is bonderize? And shouldn't the machine shop have polizhed the lobes? ...Or is it polished, but just being protected by something I have to take off somehow? -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft. Windows. and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 30 19:15:25 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA96A2D0832 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:15:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from eastrmfepo103.cox.net (eastrmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.215]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C2A2D03A3 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:21:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from eastrmimpo305.cox.net ([68.230.241.237]) by eastrmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120501002133.ICMF8874.eastrmfepo103.cox.net@eastrmimpo305.cox.net>; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:21:33 -0400 Received: from D210SVK1 ([68.0.116.150]) by eastrmimpo305.cox.net with bizsmtp id 4QMV1j00Q3Em2Q402QMWoZ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:21:31 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A02020B.4F9F2C8B.00AA,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ITPmh36Af9J7ySz1AN7YZo9VhLPC0an3e6WolDjhv1Q= c=1 sm=1 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=lGt7TVFIUQOMN1LBHZlhgw==:17 a=LJ9kV_Z0aAHkcUyZMEwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=vvl-n5QYvwmO8nPMYaYA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=lGt7TVFIUQOMN1LBHZlhgw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Art & Karen Graves" To: Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:21:10 -0500 Message-ID: <000001cd2730$5be96bb0$13bc4310$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac0nL+qGtaCvqeY7SBS/UuaqrI1QnQ== Content-Language: en-us X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: 'Sam Clark' Subject: Re: [TR] GT6 Throttle Adjustment X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sam, Is there a control lever (carb linkage is connected to this) on the petal shaft as it is on the TR6? If it is the same arrangement, that would keep the butterflies from opening all the way. Art Graves 1976 Triumph TR6 Tulsa, OK ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 30 21:03:40 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 652952D0930 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:03:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca (idcmail-mo2no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468392D07CF for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:17:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from lb7f8hsrpno-svcs.dcs.int.inet (HELO pd7ml2no-ssvc.prod.shaw.ca) ([10.0.144.222]) by pd7mo1no-svcs.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 30 Apr 2012 20:18:21 -0600 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.1 cv=GZn8e3lTBEeJrlGK3+GUWyR5aYe1SJcDn5uEERMe9yQ= c=1 sm=1 a=f6uiHNYokGQA:10 a=BLceEmwcHowA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=jx7z06uEa7NbhWIidO+Q0Q==:17 a=7bIey5MTG3vd28YKZAsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.1.101]) ([70.70.1.209]) by pd7ml2no-dmz.prod.shaw.ca with ESMTP; 30 Apr 2012 20:18:21 -0600 Message-ID: <4F9F47DD.3070605@shaw.ca> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 19:18:05 -0700 From: LT User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR3 Heater leak test X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net You could connect the garden hose with a pressure gauge on it and restrict the outlet with say another valve or pinching the hose off so that you do not flow many gallons of water. By slowly opening the inlet on the garden hose, you can adjust the pressure to whatever the radiator cap is operating at plus a little bit more. This should give you an idea if any water starts to show up on the core that you have a problem. If you have an air compressor and an air regulator, cap off one end and charge it up with air while submersing the core and you will see bubbles in the water if it is leaking. Larry T ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 30 21:05:22 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 300612D092E for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:05:22 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DCCF2D082F for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:23:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D022E0AB for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:31:12 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4F9F4AFC.6050603@bradakis.com> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:31:24 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120422 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Commission numbers X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Working at a repair shop again, one with a decided interest in British cars. I'm trying to keep track of the commission numbers of all the cars I work on at Bailey's [ http://baileysautomotive.com ] For example, the Austin Healey 3000 I worked on is HBJ829679. I haven't written down the number for the MG Midget 1500 I started pulling the motor out of today. Most likely I won't remember many by heart, there will be a database on one of my computers involved, no doubt. But one car came in today for an oil change and a minor problem with the brake light. That number I can probably remember: http://bradakis.com/Images/tr.jpg mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 30 21:31:46 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3A432D086C for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:31:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from web14.justhost.com (web14.justhost.com [99.198.111.106]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26D52D0744 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 20:56:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 173-22-113-197.client.mchsi.com ([173.22.113.197] helo=Tony-Win7-PC.tonydrews.com) by web14.justhost.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SP3HG-0000ZB-50; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:57:22 -0500 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:57:07 -0500 To: "Lee&John Howard" ,wbeech@flash.net From: Tony Drews In-Reply-To: References: <20120428024332.IVV8P.22328.root@hrndva-web09-z01> <3D425E57197145D89954C28477195A2D@bboffice> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - web14.justhost.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - autox.team.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - tonydrews.com Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, pbrandsema@triad.rr.com Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Oil Breather Pipe Oil Catch Tank X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Message-Id: <20120501033146.E3A432D086C@autox.team.net> If you run it to a catch tank, the catch tank needs to be vented to allow the gases to escape still. Seems obvious, but... Also, if you do any spirited driving you don't want the catch tank on the same side of the engine as the breather - when you go quickly around right hand turns, oil can run out the pipe into the catch tank. I suppose if you put enough bends in the pipe that wouldn't occur. We seem to put the catch tank where the battery normally goes, but that assumes you've relocated the battery to the passenger floorboard or trunk. You want the hose going into the top of the catch tank. Here's a couple of examples: uncle jack's super clean installation: http://www.tonydrews.com/catch_tank_002.jpg My much grungier installation: http://www.tonydrews.com/2008-9Rebuild/2009_0329EngineInstallation0025.JPG http://www.tonydrews.com/2008-9Rebuild/2009_0329EngineInstallation0001.JPG Tony At 10:00 PM 4/29/2012, Lee&John Howard wrote: >I installed the TR3 style breather pipe in the crankcase of my 65 TR4 and I >like to think the reduced pressure lessened the leakage through the rear >oil seal. However I don't much like adding those noxious fumes to my >already nasty exhaust and eventually would like to run the pipe to a catch >filer of some kind. >JohnH > >On Sat, Apr 28, 2 > >On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 9:21 AM, wrote: > > > The pipe would be effective as long as there is free air flow at the end. > > Ques: Why not just go with the TR3 pipe set up? > > Bill > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > > [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of > > pbrandsema@triad.rr.com > > Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 9:44 PM > > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > > Subject: [TR] TR4 Oil Breather Pipe Oil Catch Tank > > > > I'm thinking about removing the plug from the TR4 engine block and replaice > > with a breather pipe. Question is if I connect a hose from the pipe to a > > catch tank, will the pipe be as effective? > > > > Paul > > 61 TR4 > > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net > > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/leejohn7@gmail.com > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/tony@tonydrews.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 30 21:50:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8FB2D09C3 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:50:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm28-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.128]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 90CBE2D06F9 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 21:19:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.56] by nm28.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2012 03:20:17 -0000 Received: from [68.142.194.244] by tm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2012 03:20:17 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.99] by t2.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2012 03:20:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2012 03:20:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 61473.43385.bm@omp1004.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 63352 invoked from network); 1 May 2012 03:20:17 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To; b=B8Afi3QOMAopCtMzyJP/D+g4udVRo1fy3nskc7hlVtmPXEQoSv8rVZSkik8nC0lq2EGx2VFrrOu42du8P4gjoRof1kXsjdX/TcHO9L9mcqnVwX9QWHWYyDV1tKDIg2jL68VMhJpjkhSCu0zzg0cgfX2+nIr7d1X7+OcK9tqUxkw= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1335842417; bh=9VJI34JPOEtqcma0iai12xKSVNb+HFng8e8SvnEwXEo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To; b=rWsM5RCocBV1bLHG0nTBioVjAZC40saseRwZmSs8qgT74iwIOrEPj1s27KLfPm0qGhaYw/l/l7gW6dYayYrklUt7y7gEJHF5WU2Wrohzr1SW5EzSZWwvOUGEhTbN8/O0ta4FKn/STv0DstbSyf1/sD699BFK/SjisvdAunZx0g4= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: V7LqCCYVM1kkYE0R2eAUjSicEb.aZpYGchLlRRpSyyBb8Gr bTEWa6vqjEuGFmRqOJVB1oZ0h61BB9EBAyvlNdIZ5s2.2j1kBc6Afic10Ivi BOq26p3pTQj2uKDuDedl7LQCXu5DUC4rsH9bVqHmVP3od4jQVHsHUlAXOWEB y8uN87D6j.Wdl5TVCiT4Ki7j03o7lJZfZOYXK8jwXBC8b.ZSpJ4K94boIvW0 56CrEug80uRi36sPAG6SYVjIi6mdSYPQuv5D1XEEK86Zljz3RbIP.ONEXEeG IRNeUjYk1PWLXf7j4Jnw6SZtBumYLHrkbcLlPnoVxfeKkmkSe2bFLV8en61d oIy1kYMOlUsTM7QRD9H02.5lzSQCAB4SinBzW.y8M1w.4knqi85SwuvMCI3O ayHf.4KujVbHXVO9YLuGfTzSDacSvnUIibcbZLYx_vAW.T0Pj8ZvEvPthCeU 3a8yXLeCTYT8sSQWrLfNtgMdkb72aIEajaQFYExbBmSPT2s0GMtY109.GSZG YRGk7_fznM.VbDFQRj.m_5gMyrfZ6tdRmw5j9GnfKMZyGzufabFaeixJuT6n ul0KXK_5GY6VYZ.TYcutFTff2LVyI3sRpT3YdPpqz7zI1lyXUlotvPsIoU3N FYME- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2012 20:20:16 -0700 PDT From: To: "'Mark J Bradakis'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <4F9F4AFC.6050603@bradakis.com> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 22:20:14 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac0nR4kaz4j52WQ+SGuZPEbp55mRIQAAZt8g In-Reply-To: <4F9F4AFC.6050603@bradakis.com> Subject: Re: [TR] Commission numbers X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mark, Connection is not working, I am betting it was TS-1. Is it perfect as the pictures make it out to be? Very cool indeed, Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark J Bradakis Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 9:31 PM To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Commission numbers Working at a repair shop again, one with a decided interest in British cars. I'm trying to keep track of the commission numbers of all the cars I work on at Bailey's [ http://baileysautomotive.com ] For example, the Austin Healey 3000 I worked on is HBJ829679. I haven't written down the number for the MG Midget 1500 I started pulling the motor out of today. Most likely I won't remember many by heart, there will be a database on one of my computers involved, no doubt. But one car came in today for an oil change and a minor problem with the brake light. That number I can probably remember: http://bradakis.com/Images/tr.jpg mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Apr 30 23:19:41 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mharc@autox.team.net Delivered-To: mharc@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BDD32D086D for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:19:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C745E2D07D6 for ; Mon, 30 Apr 2012 23:07:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=eq5dP/VX c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=k9IzgLeNAAAA:8 a=GfQtuCU1iKAnU1HSB0kA:9 a=60AswECCMyVYTBMC2WQA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=xmkWaReOTpsA:10 a=DX9XgNA4pXIA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 4B/95-05935-98F6F9F4; Tue, 01 May 2012 05:07:23 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Mark J Bradakis'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <4F9F4AFC.6050603@bradakis.com> Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2012 22:07:21 -0700 Message-ID: <091801cd2758$4b44fc70$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <4F9F4AFC.6050603@bradakis.com> Thread-Index: Ac0nR2XvNCTxM2x9SKaQsfhW0ibcYQAEMXzg Subject: Re: [TR] Commission numbers X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > But one car came in today for an oil change and a minor > problem with the > brake light. That number I can probably remember: > > http://bradakis.com/Images/tr.jpg Gee, that's a pretty car! Tnx for the pix, MJB. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mharc@autox.team.net