From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 1 13:59:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E972D026B for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 13:59:36 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from tx2outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (tx2ehsobe004.messaging.microsoft.com [65.55.88.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F852D0220 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 13:59:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail11-tx2-R.bigfish.com (10.9.14.250) by TX2EHSOBE003.bigfish.com (10.9.40.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 20:02:17 +0000 Received: from mail11-tx2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail11-tx2-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F9C320128 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 20:02:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:134.226.1.156; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:imx2.tcd.ie; RD:imx2.tcd.ie; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: -1 X-BigFish: VPS-1(zz14ffIzz1202hzzz2dh668h839h944hd25hf0ah107ah1220h1155h) Received: from mail11-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail11-tx2 (MessageSwitch) id 1346529734929158_6246; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 20:02:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TX2EHSMHS032.bigfish.com (unknown [10.9.14.246]) by mail11-tx2.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA282A0046 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 20:02:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imx2.tcd.ie (134.226.1.156) by TX2EHSMHS032.bigfish.com (10.9.99.132) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 20:02:13 +0000 Received: from Vams.imx2 (imx2.tcd.ie [134.226.1.156]) by imx2.tcd.ie (Postfix) with SMTP id 98DFB68004 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:02:12 +0100 (IST) Received: from imx2.tcd.ie ([134.226.1.156]) by imx2.tcd.ie ([134.226.1.156]) with SMTP (gateway) id A049D3952C2; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 21:02:12 +0100 Received: from go.tcd.ie (winehub1.college.tcd.ie [134.226.252.14]) by imx2.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9266768004 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:02:12 +0100 (IST) Received: from GOMAIL.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.68]) by winehub1.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.14]) with mapi; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:01:48 +0100 From: John Gillis To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:01:47 +0100 Thread-Topic: leaky H4 Thread-Index: AQHNiHydpBdouD2XA0W+nArFw44vmQ== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-IE acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiVirus-Status: MessageID = A149D3952C2 X-AntiVirus-Status: Host: imx2.tcd.ie X-AntiVirus-Status: Action Taken: X-AntiVirus-Status: NONE X-AntiVirus-Status: Checked by TCD Vexira. (version=1.60.5 VDF=10.130.61) X-OriginatorOrg: tcd.ie Subject: [TR] leaky H4 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello all - Still smiling with TR2 driving, but eager to improve the little things; The rear carb is leaving some fuel behind after a run, and on inspection it is leaking out through the choke. I took out the jet and bearings, I changed those little cork sealing washers and the larger cork washer. Put it all back together and centered the jet and other bits, but it started leaking straight away while sitting in the garage! Is there any pre prep of the cork, soaking in oil etc. I am guessing the lower cork washer and copper cupped washer is the exit point for the leak. HELP! Regards John ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 1 14:05:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0233C2D0357 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 14:05:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E0D902D024A for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 14:05:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.66] by nm9.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2012 20:08:26 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.102] by tm6.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2012 20:08:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2012 20:08:26 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 219362.14405.bm@omp1007.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 63661 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2012 20:08:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=JozVUvW9kKKTs6Av5pNWt5sRjHs+UhuZpcu9ny31MaeCpGPmea3OUPCRjQ5vMYsNgCkFtNmTTvZh9Y7wX/EdfgKkK5SQXshkIYaHbksWmQ617HMd8BwIjavvsheVsdgAkDNkKev/Oc0FBLEInfV6ks47y6SFBqyuIGAUWKqZQ6c= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1346530106; bh=59DWFR1ba4pm2pXiU4lnAiYjOSwuRy0rYcR6W/S9OnU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=R+tR+O+OMcnC/mok0kXap+1k7151KWsYDOyOGWZOkQ5Iysck6rOKSQtWToMG4ylArEHTVlx7rb4NTUzGp+tmPqgef111YZFUthLzFSls8PrO5s7C5N/n2lXxwo4o7sesQIDZds/0reJ+RCXAX86dEJUdAC3odRz1SNjBPYbnrRU= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 9xgviWQVM1kspI14JSECly0ak_vMnq23gqqvoJLc.c6CAsS 8Qv2TdKqv1113GABLRc6g9brW97StjE45vU6bkYwJYDwyMAOjlj6LSzIt3T5 fieUNT2JY6u1QUjMj5QzgcWX8K1m0ceLOnBYbSTkYFHnDA0pVFWCax1NsOpD Kl4KveTo5QnNsHx1I6StfviMNzZjY5USy0M6au9Gb3oDnVkXpX7B4BmR1KF. BgnYChVGqh48SXd_a7eLVnQIzm4yr8ETQdmoI5Cni2d5GS0c7XHTNOeBxWsy NaU4KfixY7T0wieA1Ty_S3l_usiEzNxLLGhU39Ay7pACjkRzzspHFqYLeMr3 BQzZ8XPh29Ipwy7dRNA4OwpTueg5IjJtAjMbUMv8Af6vnZxRw11QSnMwZmpX QoFGeWrNZf.lFEIcViXBgNxfeogYgE8r_q7ftrdgDD5nFFcu9LctTOf_._oK WFGorEwPXCtX7zCNhHzUYQc7Uc2rP9yD3iddEtaULt93iAJWSCLyWSQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from [10.77.197.216] (wbeech@166.133.85.133 with plain) by smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 01 Sep 2012 13:08:24 -0700 PDT References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: <961B4FB3-CBFE-477B-AFB1-C0C9AEC953E5@flash.net> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) From: Wbeech Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 15:09:35 -0500 To: John Gillis Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] leaky H4 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net How old are your cork bits? Soak in clean motor oil for 24hrs, and give another try. All the best, Bill Sent from mobile Bill On Sep 1, 2012, at 3:01 PM, John Gillis wrote: > Hello all - Still smiling with TR2 driving, but eager to improve the little > things; The rear carb is leaving some fuel behind after a run, and on > inspection it is leaking out through the choke. I took out the jet and > bearings, I changed those little cork sealing washers and the larger cork > washer. Put it all back together and centered the jet and other bits, but it > started leaking straight away while sitting in the garage! Is there any pre > prep of the cork, soaking in oil etc. I am guessing the lower cork washer and > copper cupped washer is the exit point for the leak. HELP! > Regards > John > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 1 14:29:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF5F2D0331 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 14:29:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout08.yourhostingaccount.com (mail18.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.234]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF002D01FA for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 14:27:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan12.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.12] helo=mailscan12.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout08.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1T7uL6-00058e-46 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 16:30:44 -0400 Received: from impout01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.1] helo=impout01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan12.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1T7uL5-00055k-Qg; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 16:30:43 -0400 Received: from authsmtp03.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.3]) by impout01.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id twWj1j00403yUm201wWjpf; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 16:30:43 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=I97ntacg c=1 sm=1 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=UWBKU8OG_3kA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=DI1Vc-o8Y1wA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=8-LIcuxjasgA:10 a=01gmS7Lsn71a3f7kL38A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=maIvl2Yd+fJND/e85XqkCw==:117 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.3 X-EN-IMPSID: twWj1j00403yUm201wWjpf Received: from c-69-180-140-196.hsd1.mn.comcast.net ([69.180.140.196] helo=triumph) by authsmtp03.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1T7uL1-0006bk-6E; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 16:30:39 -0400 Message-ID: <153BABFD51F34009AEEB6AD4EDFC3CB1@triumph> From: "Greg Gelhar" To: "John Gillis" , References: Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 15:30:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-EN-UserInfo: e42cf78691180d9d9fd0715a4121692b:575ebd0ae47b8b6522b84cd16b3b758d X-EN-AuthUser: greg@gelhar.com X-EN-OrigIP: 69.180.140.196 X-EN-OrigHost: c-69-180-140-196.hsd1.mn.comcast.net Subject: Re: [TR] leaky H4 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Inspect your jet assembly. I recently found a carburetor leaking fuel at the clevis at the bottom of the jet. There must not be any looseness where the jet tube and clevis join together. The cork gaskets should be immersed in light oil for a day before assembly. Greg G. Osseo, MN Subject: [TR] leaky H4 > Hello all - Still smiling with TR2 driving, but eager to improve the > little > things; The rear carb is leaving some fuel behind after a run, and on > inspection it is leaking out through the choke. I took out the jet and > bearings, I changed those little cork sealing washers and the larger cork > washer. Put it all back together and centered the jet and other bits, but > it > started leaking straight away while sitting in the garage! Is there any > pre > prep of the cork, soaking in oil etc. I am guessing the lower cork washer > and > copper cupped washer is the exit point for the leak. HELP! > Regards > John ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 2 12:13:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474AF2D079E for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 12:13:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from am1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (am1ehsobe005.messaging.microsoft.com [213.199.154.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F7A2D06B1 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 11:32:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail9-am1-R.bigfish.com (10.3.201.253) by AM1EHSOBE003.bigfish.com (10.3.204.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 17:34:54 +0000 Received: from mail9-am1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail9-am1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8C9C0107 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 17:34:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:134.226.17.160; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:imx1.tcd.ie; RD:imx1.tcd.ie; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: 0 X-BigFish: VPS0(zzzz1202hzzz2dh668h839h944hd25hf0ah107ah1220h1155h) Received: from mail9-am1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail9-am1 (MessageSwitch) id 1346607292612408_8139; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 17:34:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from AM1EHSMHS001.bigfish.com (unknown [10.3.201.254]) by mail9-am1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895A8480045 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 17:34:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imx1.tcd.ie (134.226.17.160) by AM1EHSMHS001.bigfish.com (10.3.207.101) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 17:34:52 +0000 Received: from go.tcd.ie (winehub2.college.tcd.ie [134.226.252.15]) by imx1.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B064820 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 18:34:52 +0100 (IST) Received: from GOMAIL.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.68]) by winehub2.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.15]) with mapi; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 18:34:24 +0100 From: John Gillis To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 18:29:28 +0100 Thread-Topic: Leaky H4 and U tube Thread-Index: AQHNiTExRJdKxSZS+Ueip0ZCZDBiig== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-IE acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: tcd.ie Subject: [TR] Leaky H4 and U tube X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks all for the advice, this combined with a guy called John Twist from University Motors on U Tube did the job, soaked my cork gaskets and re centered the jet, dry as a bone. Although I do think I will follow up on Randal's advice and get myself neoprene replacements. Regards John 1954 TR2 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 3 11:54:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7432C0C9A for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 11:54:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65902D02A3; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 10:55:32 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=hIQEzcqoWCHFFh15SZd8NdsyAZNQYYbrJcxZ4yhV9wRl5BJpkFFQbQyvKFRva60N; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [69.81.21.129] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1T8ZyJ-0002zs-4W; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 12:57:59 -0400 Message-ID: <5044E18E.8000900@rmi.net> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 11:57:50 -0500 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120806 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumphs@autox.team.net, Spitfires X-ELNK-Trace: 007d46394eab33d9f572e6f2f00780416f45d880beb16ab4a9b92c07d9ff6e56a7ce0e8f8d31aa3f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.81.21.129 Subject: [TR] Spitfire Seat Back X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All, I was on my way to a car show in Kansas City Saturday and all of a sudden the seat back in my 80 Spitfire reclined way back. The seat back catch just doesn't catch. I took the seat out of the car and pulled the upholstery up far enough that I can see the seat catch mechanism, but I still can't tell for sure how it works (too much is hidden by the frame). The frame is not broken. Has anyone else experienced this? I don't know if TR6s would use the same type of mechanism. Any way to fix it without finding a replacement seat frame? Thanks, Roger Elliott 1980 Spitfire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 3 16:49:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFAE72D048B for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 16:49:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from m1plsmtpa01-06.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-06.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.34]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EA42D06BD; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 16:20:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.194.8.216]) by m1plsmtpa01-06.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id umNd1j0034ffsQe01mNdZJ; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 15:22:39 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: , <6pack@autox.team.net> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:22:35 -0400 Message-ID: <016401cd8a22$a16081b0$e4218510$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2KImSjPKvkLd0pRb6vppyjEoHeZQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net OK, so what is the combined wisdom of the lists when it comes to rotating radials? Some claim once a radial is used on, say, the driver's side it cannot be moved to the passenger - so "rotating" means front-to-rear and vice versa. Others poo-poo this restriction and say "rotate away!" What do Triumph owners say? And let's not have the obvious answer, " Radial? What's a radial?" !! Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 3 17:28:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC592D07AD for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 17:28:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FAC2C0AAD for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 17:05:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=9a5EnwHPxT8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=edbRMbyu2CEA:10 a=IgJQkZpLxAkA:10 a=IPal7lhA7vYA:10 a=xq9wGUVIARYA:10 a=taDAVOZGq94A:10 a=_Sq6j1Tl7_8A:10 a=6MLTsBQSgpMA:10 a=vbwBmGMnX_oA:10 a=XXMwYsRVBM0A:10 a=ckwzGmrgXAgA:10 a=xmXxWTgvEPcA:10 a=EkEIUSM5vUQA:10 a=-Pp9UJKR8aHvdM9IbiAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id C6/B4-28917-E5835405; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:08:15 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" , References: <016401cd8a22$a16081b0$e4218510$@uprichard.net> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 16:08:23 -0700 Message-ID: <046701cd8a29$04b845d0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <016401cd8a22$a16081b0$e4218510$@uprichard.net> Thread-Index: Ac2KImSjPKvkLd0pRb6vppyjEoHeZQABnsQQ Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > OK, so what is the combined wisdom of the lists when it comes > to rotating radials? I rotate mine regularly. In fact, I just got back from several thousand rotations. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 3 18:20:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7802D0760 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:20:30 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3742D05F7 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 17:36:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ukqk1j0020FhH24A3nf8gA; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:39:08 +0000 Received: from sz0119.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id unf81j0042xZMJ48Unf8c4; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:39:08 +0000 Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 23:39:07 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: Andrew Uprichard Message-ID: <2002753029.1321577.1346715547943.JavaMail.root@sz0119a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <016401cd8a22$a16081b0$e4218510$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:69.180.154.189] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - SAF3 (Mac)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net In the early days of Radials, that was true, but not now, except for tires with unidirectional tread patterns. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk http://www.mnautox.com ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Uprichard" > To: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net > Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 5:22:35 PM > Subject: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres > OK, so what is the combined wisdom of the lists when it comes to > rotating > radials? > > Some claim once a radial is used on, say, the driver's side it cannot > be > moved to the passenger - so "rotating" means front-to-rear and vice > versa. > Others poo-poo this restriction and say "rotate away!" > > What do Triumph owners say? And let's not have the obvious answer, " > Radial? What's a radial?" !! > > Andrew Uprichard > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 3 18:25:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353612D083C for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:25:52 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9642D01C9 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 17:41:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.10]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q83NhYDx012392; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:43:34 -0400 Received: from core-ddd001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-ddd001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.52.193]) by mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 77F30E000081; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:43:34 -0400 (EDT) From: McGaheyRx@aol.com Message-ID: <304c.3f6033ae.3d769aa5@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:43:34 -0400 (EDT) To: TR3driver@ca.rr.com, auprichard@uprichard.net, triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.7 sub 19 X-Originating-IP: [166.248.64.253] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1346715814; bh=dAkIJ7b5cxXzIft38cJ4bTua9/e1smcyDOZNq43dY/w=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gRjuLXtBEhppISAdDHgBwedcTTXQa0ySpghlHvFOJbzA/kR9yd9u8/XfNrN8jWzr9 23udiDPa4haYiAmofYN8zHOtzgybBwZTQ/+VbpFWPkCSqH+GuFtOfFB1y4RvkamZvh GVZn2PlMFpoVGY7PUj9IjWhpzwyXzu50C/UhXeIc= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:466150880:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a504540a66926 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 9/3/2012 7:31:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, TR3driver@ca.rr.com writes: I rotate mine regularly. In fact, I just got back from several thousand rotations. wow - don't know what size tires you have, but at 700 to 900 rotations per mile, you didn't go very far on several thousand rotations, did you? Cheers, Jack Mc ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 3 18:59:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC642D0715 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:59:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.190]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 96B6E2D06BB for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:35:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.137.12.174] by nm12.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2012 00:38:42 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.97] by tm13.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2012 00:38:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2012 00:38:42 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 202610.31699.bm@omp1002.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 93122 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2012 00:38:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To; b=iD+Koghbal1nI32W5OmZcrqID6F7Dn8GALNquGMtUwc1YFIzX+Zt/auUfkDcmhDXhleoArkAo26hAjGaceJ/bnHfthUln5oqWXD123SSFXxz5BtFdG/LokNoFT9obdGSY10NHS1GxGHN3ZnHiGKCy8tHMfl+vF/nM2HROdbRmg4= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1346719122; bh=y2qckeoiEpD4kp98t4bhBtnCg5RH+CRlF2WbjoW94k4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To; b=upjC3CftPUTk22kyo9tweFdakSPYY7UEEY16H6m2FUPqZcXEHMEh5pYmsed35PT4VswGymx0ofo2nQiEm2vZVbh0UX9ToWp1LcXXf09Dy26pFxkzntYoOfukIbfLaek/FLz4wqGnQFLt7+Kv79vKnKspLKsAgC49RKw0KabsAeo= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: VvP5e94VM1mHCJg5xXDA46RoZi6_kxAEd6OgqxjM4AhPnDK EWGEnd0.I0DLED5YZ0Ej7RLjDbt9bO64v0H8OoamBfJ2jfEv8tC1zLg0aTrT eC.eSLLIZYROqgO90HDEVrDqiYNvkkdq6Od3m7HGOjW08F7xMYrNfyM3lqhR qqEWkpIDSCIcOQsnft18BlUJu1ZXK0gmc.ErD9Fiy95_AVkJ7GA7TaXTPJVi zFa0wXF43a1yAbs38L3.w2BSoYEfRpts.YDWXoLcpp2BK9PDWgYyMIJMqMSv 3FzBhDIYfZt2DD9a8Q_acSQn4wsGkTrcvuuu97FU.VHuTlavPqfaSLnsW1zg jogyOqWI_R2vo6JN6TwbqeB8HXWFU.AvYzGjWCH17ZHsTLXwQTzXeJSsg4Ru PLTpfse9dbYVTCuldED0IdW7vbbs_BzXaDuRPwUDOp2FZb7zMyeqZ3dE.gcx dMuxn1rFpyU5BVB.cxJ7NOqlClbICbstOXNYmPR19v9Tl3.TlrE._HdTQ7yf H7sqCFko_VCYRuYDADqEe1GAQW5YMYK43w0bFBPpGGZJ7uP75PV79PBMCSg- - X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Sep 2012 17:38:41 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" , , <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <016401cd8a22$a16081b0$e4218510$@uprichard.net> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:38:49 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2KImSjPKvkLd0pRb6vppyjEoHeZQAEiyoA In-Reply-To: <016401cd8a22$a16081b0$e4218510$@uprichard.net> Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I only rotate front-to-back-to-front, my Ford dealer rotates my detroitmobile tires in the crossing pattern RF-to-LR; LR-to-LF; LF-to-RR; RR-to RF Never had a failure or odd wear pattern either way. I think my front-to-back method may be old school based on older radial recommendation. Of course, if you are running a directional tread pattern you can only rotate front-to-back, BTDT paid the price. Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Uprichard Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 5:23 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net; 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres OK, so what is the combined wisdom of the lists when it comes to rotating radials? Some claim once a radial is used on, say, the driver's side it cannot be moved to the passenger - so "rotating" means front-to-rear and vice versa. Others poo-poo this restriction and say "rotate away!" What do Triumph owners say? And let's not have the obvious answer, " Radial? What's a radial?" !! Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 3 20:14:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6862D02C3 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 20:14:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5FC62C0CE0 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:31:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Dp/UCRD+ c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=9a5EnwHPxT8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=edbRMbyu2CEA:10 a=IgJQkZpLxAkA:10 a=IPal7lhA7vYA:10 a=xq9wGUVIARYA:10 a=taDAVOZGq94A:10 a=_Sq6j1Tl7_8A:10 a=6MLTsBQSgpMA:10 a=vbwBmGMnX_oA:10 a=XXMwYsRVBM0A:10 a=ckwzGmrgXAgA:10 a=xmXxWTgvEPcA:10 a=EkEIUSM5vUQA:10 a=USDnH-KvIzxxz4USqrUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id F5/3F-13948-A7A55405; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 01:33:47 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: <304c.3f6033ae.3d769aa5@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:33:55 -0700 Message-ID: <04d101cd8a3d$597ffa90$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <304c.3f6033ae.3d769aa5@aol.com> Thread-Index: Ac2KLh6Xma3lrl+uQFG4uuZjHqFQeAADxhtQ Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > wow - don't know what size tires you have, but at 700 to 900 > rotations per mile, you didn't go very far on several > thousand rotations, did you? Nope, just ran over to the store for some odds & ends. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 3 20:24:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6232D06F2 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 20:24:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from m1plsmtpa01-05.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-05.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C662D06BE; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:35:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Spitfire ([76.184.166.234]) by m1plsmtpa01-05.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id upe41j00953lu5001pe5CP; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 18:38:05 -0700 Message-ID: <6EAE05E6C933401BB7AAE6C45DC33CFA@Spitfire> From: "Dave" To: , <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <016401cd8a22$a16081b0$e4218510$@uprichard.net> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 20:37:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net my daughter has a 350z - the front and rears are different sizes, so no rotation at all!!!! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 06:14:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848F62D06BB for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 06:14:28 -0600 (MDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: autox.team.net mailing list memberships reminder From: mailman-owner@autox.team.net To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net X-No-Archive: yes Message-ID: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 05:03:59 -0600 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: mailman@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 List-Id: X-List-Administrivia: yes Errors-To: mailman-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: mailman-bounces@autox.team.net This is a reminder, sent out once a month, about your autox.team.net mailing list memberships. 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Passwords for triumphs-archive@autox.team.net: List Password // URL ---- -------- triumphs@autox.team.net koetvawa http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive%40autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 15:01:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C70052D0C78 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 15:01:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF5C2D08CF; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:01:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DennisPC (ool-182c78ad.dyn.optonline.net [24.44.120.173]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0M9U00LEQD24J7M0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 16:03:44 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 16:03:41 -0400 From: Dennis Culligan To: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net Message-id: <003b01cd8ad8$617af6f0$2470e4d0$@net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac2K2GE9CHXwlOrtTliWnVFFi1JZgg== X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Rotating tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net While we're talking about tires. I recently noticed some wear on the outside edge of the right front tire on my '76 TR6 so I decided to rotate as I usually do, front to rear to front. However, upon further inspection, I could not help but notice that both right side tires, front AND rear, were decidedly more worn across the whole tire (not just the edge) than the left side tires. How exactly does this happen? The right sides are nearly shot while the lefts look fine. Tires are Vredestein Sprint Classics and have about 25,000 miles on them. Any ideas? Dennis Culligan, Highland NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 15:58:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A182D0C50 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 15:58:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from devils.ext.ti.com (devils.ext.ti.com [198.47.26.153]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1799B2D0AC5 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:32:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dlelxv30.itg.ti.com ([172.17.2.17]) by devils.ext.ti.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id q84KYw6u032441 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 15:34:58 -0500 Received: from DFLE72.ent.ti.com (dfle72.ent.ti.com [128.247.5.109]) by dlelxv30.itg.ti.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q84KYw4V004209 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 15:34:58 -0500 Received: from DLEE08.ent.ti.com ([fe80::8145:89a6:94e5:8cad]) by DFLE72.ent.ti.com ([fe80::5c48:b90d:af93:5822%30]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 15:34:58 -0500 From: "Fisher, Ed" To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: rotating tires Thread-Index: Ac2K3L62B94Xp35CTz+yXOfLRzvnjg== Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 20:34:57 +0000 Message-ID: <67A276399E247245AC2050FC103C4E8A3ECD653C@DLEE08.ent.ti.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [128.247.5.50] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] rotating tires X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I usually rotate my non-directional radials front to back, same side. However, last time I rotated the drive wheels straight back, and the non-drive wheels across front to back. Since this was on a front wheel drive car, RF went to RR. LF went to LR. RR went to LF. LR went to RF. I saw it on a tire website. No difference noted in the last 3k miles or so. Ed Fisher Dallas, Tx ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 16:49:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E61F2D0B5A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:49:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc1-s47.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc1-s47.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.61.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1EE2D099E for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 15:18:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT123-W18 ([65.55.90.7]) by snt0-omc1-s47.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:21:05 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [192.17.24.108] From: Rich White To: TR owners List Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:21:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: <003b01cd8ad8$617af6f0$2470e4d0$@net> References: <003b01cd8ad8$617af6f0$2470e4d0$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2012 21:21:05.0756 (UTC) FILETIME=[319351C0:01CD8AE3] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Too many two wheel turns? Rich White Central, IL USA '63 TR3B TCF###L That ain't a scrap pile, that is my car! > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:03:41 -0400 > From: dctr6@optonline.net > To: triumphs@autox.team.net; 6pack@autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] Rotating tyres > > While we're talking about tires. I recently noticed some wear on the > outside edge of the > > right front tire on my '76 TR6 so I decided to rotate as I usually do, front > to rear to front. > > However, upon further inspection, I could not help but notice that both > right side tires, front > > AND rear, were decidedly more worn across the whole tire (not just the edge) > than the left > > side tires. How exactly does this happen? The right sides are nearly shot > while the lefts look > > fine. Tires are Vredestein Sprint Classics and have about 25,000 miles on > them. Any ideas? > > Dennis Culligan, Highland NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/rlwhitetr3b@hotmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 16:54:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CECA32D06F1 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:54:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (fed1rmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11742D09DF for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 15:22:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo305 ([68.230.241.173]) by fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120904212451.ELNI9100.fed1rmfepo103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo305> for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 17:24:51 -0400 Received: from Vista ([70.190.241.231]) by fed1rmimpo305 with cox id v9Qq1j00Z50Fepi019QqFT; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 17:24:51 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A02020A.504671A3.002D,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=HKFB5/Rv c=1 sm=1 a=YXrDTWBbwbeLZAQKZEP30w==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=upjS20HUMssA:10 a=IgJQkZpLxAkA:10 a=IPal7lhA7vYA:10 a=1e4LJyNPphAA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=7SONEmrQLxCsDRuIskkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=YXrDTWBbwbeLZAQKZEP30w==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'Dennis Culligan'" , References: <003b01cd8ad8$617af6f0$2470e4d0$@net> In-Reply-To: <003b01cd8ad8$617af6f0$2470e4d0$@net> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:24:59 -0700 Message-ID: <60678502F6D7473AB1545AF1DCD1EDAD@Vista> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2K2GE9CHXwlOrtTliWnVFFi1JZggAC0ZJw Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Turn left occasionally! :) Joe -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dennis Culligan Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 1:04 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net; 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Rotating tyres While we're talking about tires. I recently noticed some wear on the outside edge of the right front tire on my '76 TR6 so I decided to rotate as I usually do, front to rear to front. However, upon further inspection, I could not help but notice that both right side tires, front AND rear, were decidedly more worn across the whole tire (not just the edge) than the left side tires. How exactly does this happen? The right sides are nearly shot while the lefts look fine. Tires are Vredestein Sprint Classics and have about 25,000 miles on them. Any ideas? Dennis Culligan, Highland NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spitlist@cox.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 17:38:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D47C2D0C0A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 17:38:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D72E2D0B3F for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:24:54 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=upjS20HUMssA:10 a=IgJQkZpLxAkA:10 a=IPal7lhA7vYA:10 a=1e4LJyNPphAA:10 a=xRfjoxBpAAAA:8 a=Hv2iM9hTwSkT8sp4PXQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=bgAgzZxQv2QA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:47148] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 19/19-17657-85086405; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 22:27:36 +0000 Message-ID: <20120904222736.KGA72.233239.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 18:27:36 -0400 From: To: Dennis Culligan , triumphs@autox.team.net In-Reply-To: <003b01cd8ad8$617af6f0$2470e4d0$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Dennis Culligan wrote: > However, upon further inspection, I could not help but notice that both > right side tires, front AND rear, were decidedly more worn across the whole tire (not just the edge) > than the left side tires. How exactly does this happen? This points up one of the reasons I am resistant to shuffling tires around. If you had let them be, you would know without doubt which corner had a problem. Now all you know is that either the RF or the RR has a problem, maybe both of them. The main point of rotating tires appears to be so the tire company can sell you 4 tires at a time, rather than just one or two. --- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 19:06:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73BC22D0AAD for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 19:06:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733902D0B0B for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 18:04:34 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=bzXMDwBQOFpHfbXQ1R3SXNACLbj5+bUoICEqsuGFJFhqDyXW8GfJ0Wp4LIQpZeVi; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [69.81.21.129] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1T9396-0000cW-3a for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 20:07:04 -0400 Message-ID: <504697BA.4060001@rmi.net> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 19:07:22 -0500 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120806 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-ELNK-Trace: 007d46394eab33d9f572e6f2f0078041d9b3544428a0625af56d208e90217d00350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.81.21.129 Subject: [TR] charging sytem X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All, About a week ago I replaced my battery that was about 7 years old - I figured it had served long enough. It was an inexpensive battery to start with. I replaced it in part because my voltmeter was reading low and the tach and overdrive would quit working at times. In the back of my mind I new it probably was more than the battery even though it happened mainly at lower speeds. Well the voltmeter is still reading between 12 and 13 (both gauge and VOM). So I put a new alternator on it. Well, it is still reading about 12 volts. I did clean the battery terminals. Any suggestions on what I should look at next? Thanks Roger Elliott 1980 Spitfire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 20:14:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CA82D0C3B for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 20:14:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCBB2D0B27 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 18:51:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wgbed3 with SMTP id ed3so4402116wgb.20 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 17:53:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tYp7sl1cPUq3/ekD3Y/9IFtrpw/6TDAcM2zCIPuDau4=; b=pFG1K1NJ5BiENvtXDJZllkk4PetMMqktfPWRt0Cn5X+tJt2cxiKGgvEvdkqLn0IQPt s+VLXiFL9gJVxaWnJ5TNQ41jl6ILqWOOkB6IIvBbox5ZfOZX1mKZAUWSzLt3SkT98z5L 6hswRi/wzNfAEdLdPLjIXKC4GsTDEtOsa9VNYPv+m76Gk4yfWXqnXPhcSG63LpJZEdSP Icx3GQaE+Wu+tLsiPoCDoZjN/tKOfjoFrjoZV18zt9mOsSysRX0kBuSqkqoIYpVDUUIU RKxbnldRuRy/H9TzwbZNZtDRGCg73ymHQRABem3MS0JvJTAMjWzaoHI3XMuN53ZH2fEu zivw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.228.130 with SMTP id f2mr12112529weq.7.1346806411701; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 17:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.197.149 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 17:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.197.149 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 17:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 20:53:31 -0400 Message-ID: From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] New lift followed me home X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net A rusty vehicle lift followed me home today. Its a qp-6000 quick lift. The new tr6 seems to ride it just fine. It picked up my truck just fine. It looks very rough and there is rustoleum in its future. It fits the six just great and hits the frame fully. Now to see how it works with the 4 and the 2. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 20:17:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D26A2D0C8D for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 20:17:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6B12D0843 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 19:15:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vms170027pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.3]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0M9U00DCWRM7I7I2@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 20:18:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 71.127.35.140 ([71.127.35.140]) by vms170027 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 20:18:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 20:18:07 -0500 (CDT) From: thenicholls@verizon.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <6326555.1726703.1346807887194.JavaMail.root@vms170027> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Verizon Webmail X-Originating-IP: [71.127.35.140] Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Never rotated tires on any of my vehicles including my 72 TR6 for the reasons Randall cited below. Craig On 09/04/12, tr3driver@ca.rr.com wrote: ---- Dennis Culligan wrote: > However, upon further inspection, I could not help but notice that both > right side tires, front AND rear, were decidedly more worn across the whole tire (not just the edge) > than the left side tires. How exactly does this happen? This points up one of the reasons I am resistant to shuffling tires around. If you had let them be, you would know without doubt which corner had a problem. Now all you know is that either the RF or the RR has a problem, maybe both of them. The main point of rotating tires appears to be so the tire company can sell you 4 tires at a time, rather than just one or two. --- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/thenicholls@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 20:18:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB1C2D0D86 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 20:18:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B0E2D08DF for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 19:22:17 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=JShBOoQwrAj+pDNWU1T2IxvrsPF+89Jh0YJ9GTH1miaCCwUla80pRfhoLlzt/Ar0; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [69.81.21.129] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1T94MN-0008Kn-2o for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 21:24:51 -0400 Message-ID: <5046A9F5.8020004@rmi.net> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 20:25:09 -0500 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120806 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <504697BA.4060001@rmi.net> In-Reply-To: <504697BA.4060001@rmi.net> X-ELNK-Trace: 007d46394eab33d9f572e6f2f0078041ff468f87cc1db932de8dd7e68c9d1e08667c3043c0873f7e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.81.21.129 Subject: Re: [TR] charging sytem X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net New question: is there a coating somewhere on the alternator that would prevent it from operating until it is worn off? I just checked again and now with the brights on and the heater fan on high the gauge in the car is reading over 13 and a reading between the alternator and the battery is 14.2 at just above idle. So I guess it is working. Roger > Well the voltmeter is still reading between 12 and 13 (both gauge and > VOM). So I put a new alternator on it. Well, it is still reading > about 12 volts. > > I did clean the battery terminals. > > Any suggestions on what I should look at next? > > Thanks > Roger Elliott > 1980 Spitfire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 20:57:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0408A2D0D40 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 20:57:09 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from que31.charter.net (que31.charter.net [209.225.8.23]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785BC2D08CB for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 19:43:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120905013227.OTNP10966.mta11.charter.net@imp09>; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 21:32:27 -0400 Received: from Desktop ([96.32.2.169]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id vDYQ1j00H3enFnk05DYTQJ; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 21:32:27 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=nlrKf9u5uG3fs/vD0VBbL3/xzyN25p4t1WHsSeqasGo= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:17 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=S5PPE3vcK5pd_skfsjkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:117 From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" To: "'Roger Elliott'" , References: <504697BA.4060001@rmi.net> In-Reply-To: <504697BA.4060001@rmi.net> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 21:32:22 -0400 Message-ID: <000601cd8b06$4c03e240$e40ba6c0$@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQGqKcDyiHRUNkfWErrCDxntJBXiIZfBt6YQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] charging sytem X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Check to make sure that the body is well grounded. There is often a bonding strap that connects the engine block to the body. Those straps often disintegrate with age. Also, look for voltage drops along the insulated circuit that feeds all of the accessories. With heater fan on, lights on, and anything else that can be turned on, there should be no more than about 0.2 volts drop from the insulated battery post to each of the accessory items. Alex Thomson -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roger Elliott Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 8:07 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] charging sytem Hi All, About a week ago I replaced my battery that was about 7 years old - I figured it had served long enough. It was an inexpensive battery to start with. I replaced it in part because my voltmeter was reading low and the tach and overdrive would quit working at times. In the back of my mind I new it probably was more than the battery even though it happened mainly at lower speeds. Well the voltmeter is still reading between 12 and 13 (both gauge and VOM). So I put a new alternator on it. Well, it is still reading about 12 volts. I did clean the battery terminals. Any suggestions on what I should look at next? Thanks Roger Elliott 1980 Spitfire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aljlthomson@charter.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 23:33:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F982D0911 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 23:33:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 228232D0B57 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 22:40:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2012 04:42:39 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.121] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2012 04:42:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1026.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2012 04:42:39 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 832850.63906.bm@omp1026.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 24460 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2012 04:42:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=DTGphmovrBiNXodkTIKy8Mg4/b1r7Rj43Gj9Mz+5QHdT3kNQOnqZRBPUh6jgDO/enU+7WtcbXCZO/zvaIUiqqJpUjmrQeVl0GG6DeNbmNLbjsuyV+N1+Ft9joeM1bT+Mp3HJlgrhZEc4hrKLQI1X3ANU9qwHIa7UKxyuYLFy7RM= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1346820159; bh=s+Zv8iJdu5AMGyeV6RHXgb1lM14IOyiLSu78KPlnfts=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=aj9xb3QoYrxOEHreVj0azjV7fwo0Ra29i5OF+6Nn98vvVulsq3gVFf2lZPm0G4wK90g2P2DFq0m8jQSARWTG30eiPGA6Qwf65O5b8OHwuCOrllsSLf+CznwSB0mFoFyc8fOI+sMH3xV+mloilPTLOTMgAg5AIiIHWtcEZMWzAOc= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: b8IWnYkVM1niSQ49PYVVH9XQxld8M3gDD583XfzoRtoNuF5 WVc0XJyevpJCiZeCWclgymJawzwsWkgL4CryiCeuvB83azGViBu7zzirCznJ xE0dCs3lJTT0y2QqyXFOEuwjHkXRRU.y0Um4WF0BCP6UMSCWikaeCOTh16TB ynpFKwLk.kWwX1jn8Ml_PN39YlllnCMuZSjasJCheNJlxCBSHdClPxJBtFKF sWFGIm6AX0pAIEXUQiVUNttqP_yNtAfVOp0LMW.oj4us11yjK9hBc0P3PxRE 0eXIZmjXs7JIQc4_ZZuwI319bwyDjLf_sgfdpiT5giGa2Vhum2LoJ0AxOW5d bHN0zf.26y8PdTlccbUPBh9zWui8JY6zd0R5QIf4jalKkSAVIulC1oTG2FL_ m6s1d9kgL1Z1_DBCnSPUGZ0mXvFFYAq7T2akLeo0YRfxLjbs56g6LG6PetAt iAkANRNtnP53rOgLddbcUwotTNNqRMTixhcyIBnoGidnjr8VsvdIs.S2.wbN EVe9jUUFR X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Sep 2012 21:42:39 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Chris Simo'" , "'list Triumph'" References: Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 23:42:43 -0500 Message-ID: <9605E2C757774C799D43A93D25D961ED@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2LDREFV8MFlV4XSJaL3wMmtN4P7gAEvltA In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] New lift followed me home X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Congratulations, if you see any more strays out there give a call and I will help you round them up. B -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Simo Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 7:54 PM To: list Triumph Subject: [TR] New lift followed me home A rusty vehicle lift followed me home today. Its a qp-6000 quick lift. The new tr6 seems to ride it just fine. It picked up my truck just fine. It looks very rough and there is rustoleum in its future. It fits the six just great and hits the frame fully. Now to see how it works with the 4 and the 2. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 5 06:44:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF7D2D0B32 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 06:44:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB742D0812 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 05:43:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q85BkHlc026675; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 07:46:17 -0400 Received: from core-moe001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.65]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0DB0AE000089; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 07:46:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <3b49b.4a469f17.3d789588@cs.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 07:46:16 -0400 (EDT) To: ccsimonsen@gmail.com, triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1346845577; bh=Sw6Du8S6GVGURSgs/f2tlHFIvm8VKwf9rVxS/wDBhQw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=c8Ap2XjMEvGkSMDpPtaK5gJ4VbfEZeEMKyy7Mgl6nzBLEnh6Pg5qg5j43AajTd32H 0a+5Ln5ggFbw+iXMB8mD1JwmZnbr3EDwLfnZ8CQNBGhO4nOKI/dur9kEEAoyodFOVF ltcim4fM1mpmx3Y1EtP6329g6qJgBIpWLjdU6JNY= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:371373536:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c50473b89020a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] New lift followed me home X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Cheese! You're just living right. One problem, though. Three cars but only one lift. Dave In a message dated 9/4/2012 9:18:03 PM Central Daylight Time, ccsimonsen@gmail.com writes: > A rusty vehicle lift followed me home today. Its a qp-6000 quick lift. > The > new tr6 seems to ride it just fine. > > It picked up my truck just fine. It looks very rough and there is > rustoleum in its future. > > It fits the six just great and hits the frame fully. Now to see how it > works with the 4 and the 2. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 5 06:51:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3691C2D0196 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 06:51:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A483B2D08EA for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 06:06:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.139]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q85C9U4A007455 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 08:09:30 -0400 Received: from core-moe001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.65]) by mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5C7F0E000087 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 08:09:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <3bc30.343d536b.3d789afa@cs.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 08:09:30 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1346846970; bh=vCCYPAQ18RQ+avU4FHwjbS3myD8XsEULK8JyX6xDPZY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vWgD3ZlDhUXMsvN+iZ9nlLz+/NSRbqMj3J3gReba1nTdap0Gw54lYpNzTEBYUaMzI dH6XGZ9/iQnDu/e1zCHNMiVDI083+oihdlthEPtJRoL1QeUS61yqrL+q2ZKmvm/s+l DmI5Hkidcx4FMdfaMLLPo6hjeyAes7XuOuaBbZ9w= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:327483424:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b504740fa60b6 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] charging sytem X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The big brown wire from the alternator plugs into the battery cable along with some other brown wires. These other wires feed the electrical system. After 32 years these contacts can get a bit corroded and stop conducting electricity. If the alternator wire stops making good contact your battery will not charge even if the alternator is good. Unplug and replug these wires to clean off the terminals. Apply some dielectric grease to prevent further corrosion. Easy stuff. Dave In a message dated 9/4/2012 9:21:56 PM Central Daylight Time, elliottr@rmi.net writes: > New question: is there a coating somewhere on the alternator that would > prevent it from operating until it is worn off? > > I just checked again and now with the brights on and the heater fan on > high the gauge in the car is reading over 13 and a reading between the > alternator and the battery is 14.2 at just above idle. > > So I guess it is working. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 5 07:44:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59B72D0C5D for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 07:44:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa01-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A4C0F2D0AF5 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 06:30:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 13133 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2012 12:32:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.194.12.73) by p3plsmtpa01-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.86) with ESMTP; 05 Sep 2012 12:32:57 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: , <6pack@autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 08:32:59 -0400 Message-ID: <003a01cd8b62$96918ef0$c3b4acd0$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2LYpWCB4y8y2OuQJqyFPNSq9zAng== Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to all who replied individually and to the list. Always insightful ! Andrew -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of EdB Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 10:28 PM To: Dennis Culligan; triumphs@autox.team.net; 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Rotating tyres Dennis: My own observations also show the right rear tire wears more, particularly on a rear wheel drive car or truck. I had a flat tire recently on my Toyota truck RR tire, and was shocked to see the amount of tire wear in 31,000 miles. It was obvious that the left rear tire was not worn nearly as much. I was thinking of buying a tire tread gauge so I could take measurements of the tread on each of my tires. The only explanation I have for this difference in wear is that the rotational torque of the driveline puts more force on the right hand rear tire. When you accelerate hard, the first wheel to squeal or peel is the right tire. And I know that I often accelerate a little bit hard while driving around in the city. I cannot explain why your front right tire surface would wear more than the left tire except you may do more left hand turns under power where the vehicle weight shifts to the right tire. The outside edge tire wear is usually a symptom of hard cornering, which is at least half the fun of driving a British sports car. Ed Bratt Regina, Saskatchewan 1976 TR6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Culligan" To: ; <6pack@autox.team.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 2:03 PM Subject: [6pack] Rotating tyres > While we're talking about tires. I recently noticed some wear on the > outside edge of the > > right front tire on my '76 TR6 so I decided to rotate as I usually do, > front > to rear to front. > > However, upon further inspection, I could not help but notice that both > right side tires, front > > AND rear, were decidedly more worn across the whole tire (not just the > edge) > than the left > > side tires. How exactly does this happen? The right sides are nearly shot > while the lefts look > > fine. Tires are Vredestein Sprint Classics and have about 25,000 miles on > them. Any ideas? > > Dennis Culligan, Highland NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U > > ________________________________________ > > 6pack@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/bratt@sasktel.net > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5249 - Release Date: 09/04/12 ________________________________________ 6pack@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 5 08:02:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2982D0D8B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 08:02:38 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm35-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm35-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E78872D0943 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 06:36:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2012 12:38:57 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.253] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2012 12:38:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1045.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2012 12:38:57 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 374888.21371.bm@omp1045.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 35308 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Sep 2012 12:38:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1346848737; bh=MpyKRBlRr29x1osWEcGlFm/K0S3I+XbbDQdyZ9Nj1/c=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kyvpG946EZFcfwi6E8xDiGBRVn5AXidvJ1m3zyfYO2ff+GXWotLo4NjfBfG3aKk2gQRaMbfUFlklKKl7ll0XDUGtXXfKWwLJVQZEmiorAQMOJYRRQRrypnfx/3tsugzheZfGfHNm6nqxIwNB66UpMFtVvSjPVjWlK4EkpVRF3Vc= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=q7Gdeq/EUdYwqbn/BDWsSnbLPQjhEi4kDlhPQy6QS+mp/AoRal8SYnFh6zNvjoSTcrVQdkRJ9ffcBLZdv/hS2995eOOEkbG38aBNmMsBeGIkY2d86TOfGz/1QA+nqwhVeOdV1l5LSIym6ioptklvqyVfMyHMg70En7b4kNj2i5c=; X-YMail-OSG: ZNf.BIsVM1mAxWa1mks3EtOrzqqtscxd.Rh84avOp28hna. sOJZcGkAIHGaJEhIXX.4fX_khULdeoPhf17eAdvwWNymOYZE2hp1FrnG9Ne7 hJW7piPDd53FEk4mO7Z6yrpxc8krQmuf1WHEaonq3SBhN69lwfRWgSCYl3mH dTd8VnsvVvGUnT_FocOOBcPlSvBQZMx1m.x3ajIFsrgVh7.fxFR1ppPB5iTk VcgmR.RRH5dR4oWLa7qgjL2b3eVLv0FiwIRzs2fe9p3uCHvmrnqAcbkv3PEO czfm.QBHsJydAG6CLN7tMJpBCCmK8g_B8zAR5JwgrS2PbUgFNUwPEEJaFZod ZY_Ebg.dWOJk6B6h76Q42iBrMGdv5DFVEqwQ289eX_OnnhCCMjwHg3ldD_r1 blD_qao0JYfCh8vNe63.EdXmz7nkvP.Q7z1uf9rrjQ9uYS6fvos1syThlmZD i5YT3nneRVCYc Received: from [108.17.41.115] by web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 05:38:56 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1346848736.23315.YahooMailNeo@web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 05:38:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Cosmo Kramer To: "Triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Tyre rotation X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cosmo Kramer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi List! ------- Message: 7 Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 20:37:55 -0500 From: "Dave" To: , <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres my daughter has a 350z - the front and rears are different sizes, so no rotation at all!!!! ------------- Dave, what do you do for carrying a spare tyre? Do you carry one small (dough-nut) tyre, or two (One of each size? This was one of the biggest reasons the I didn't peddle with two different size wheels on my bicycle, because I had to carry at lease one of each size tyre & tube. Back to the main topic's thread about how (direction) to rotate tyres: I go the conventional way of rotating radial tyres (front to rear & vise versa). I don't have directional tyres on the Garage Queen (TR4A), but on my other cars I do (so I'm in that habit now & I don't see any reason to change it.). This way, when I see tyre wear, I com-pair wheels to known that it's either the front or the rear of that one side to correct when going into for wheel alignment. I also rotate around 3,333 miles when I do the Oil & Filter change & lube the entire car, along with other maintenance (waxing the under carriage, etc.) at that mile marker. Is that to often in rotating? -Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 5 13:18:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D082D0773 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 13:18:58 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth22.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth22.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9EB102D08C1 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 11:37:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 25876 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2012 17:40:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.138.90.252) by smtpauth22.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.44) with ESMTP; 05 Sep 2012 17:40:15 -0000 Message-ID: <38DC8D91332E4AB5B1B4B76BAE4B3488@Spitfire> From: "Dave" To: References: <1346848736.23315.YahooMailNeo@web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1346848736.23315.YahooMailNeo@web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 12:38:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] Tyre rotation X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net she carries just one spare - the wheels are the same bolt pattern, so it doesn't matter. and, btw, she had a flat recently and really tried to change it herself. but she couldn't get the lugs off so she ended up calling me. since then I have gotten her a wrench extender -----Original Message----- From: Cosmo Kramer Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 7:38 AM To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Tyre rotation Hi List! ------- Message: 7 Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 20:37:55 -0500 From: "Dave" To: , <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres my daughter has a 350z - the front and rears are different sizes, so no rotation at all!!!! ------------- Dave, what do you do for carrying a spare tyre? Do you carry one small (dough-nut) tyre, or two (One of each size? This was one of the biggest reasons the I didn't peddle with two different size wheels on my bicycle, because I had to carry at lease one of each size tyre & tube. Back to the ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 5 15:23:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2163B2C08FC for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 15:23:52 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from gateway09.websitewelcome.com (gateway09.websitewelcome.com [67.18.16.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6212D0B43 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 14:11:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: by gateway09.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 507) id F0F965E7E3C4; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 15:14:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gator52.hostgator.com (gator52.hostgator.com [184.173.194.222]) by gateway09.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18185E7E377 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 15:14:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from leexray by gator52.hostgator.com with local (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1T9LzI-0003NY-TV for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 15:14:12 -0500 Received: from 208.87.137.231 ([208.87.137.231]) (proxying for 208.23.240.1) (SquirrelMail authenticated user lee@automate-it.com) by www.automate-it.com with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 15:14:12 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8CF24758AAFF7BD-FA4-193FD@webmail-d146.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CF24758AAFF7BD-FA4-193FD@webmail-d146.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 15:14:12 -0500 From: "Lee Daniels" To: triumphs@autox.team.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator52.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - autox.team.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32208 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - automate-it.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: /var/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php X-Source-Args: /var/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php /usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src/compose.php X-Source-Dir: :/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src X-Source-Auth: leexray X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: bGVleHJheTtsZWV4cmF5O2dhdG9yNTIuaG9zdGdhdG9yLmNvbQ== Subject: [TR] Triumph service bulletins formerly at "little mac shop"? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Not too long ago someone was hosting a good selection of Triumph service bulletins; the URL that I saved was: http://www.thelittlemacshop.com/trsite/bulletins.html but that link is now dead. In fact the site appears to be gone with the exception of http://www.thelittlemacshop.com/ - but it's obviously nothing related. BUT note at the bottom of the page the remnant of a link labelled "Triumph list member area". Anyone know if these are still available? Triumphs Only still has a nice selection here: http://www.triumphsonly.com/pages/main/techinfo.html Lee ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 5 19:46:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4822D09F9 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 19:46:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA71D2D098D for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 18:22:37 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=EkXOgFFK6EYDkNRlZMqQOnJtPyPjMGqbhKchkzfVG7TmAHKOrS3V65HhOYddG01Y; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [69.81.21.129] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1T9Pu5-000302-SH; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:25:05 -0400 Message-ID: <5047ED74.3070602@rmi.net> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 19:25:24 -0500 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120806 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex & Janet Thomson References: <504697BA.4060001@rmi.net> <000601cd8b06$4c03e240$e40ba6c0$@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <000601cd8b06$4c03e240$e40ba6c0$@charter.net> X-ELNK-Trace: 007d46394eab33d9f572e6f2f0078041f23bd7a34486b3d4875838e10db30ed2a2d4e88014a4647c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.81.21.129 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] charging sytem X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks everyone for the suggestions! Roger Elliott On 09/04/2012 08:32 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson wrote: > Check to make sure that the body is well grounded. ... > > Alex Thomson > > -----Original Message----- > > Subject: [TR] charging sytem > > Hi All, > > > Any suggestions on what I should look at next? > > Thanks > Roger Elliott > 1980 Spitfire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 5 20:55:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0CFD2D09E2 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 20:55:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm9-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm9-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1EDF32D0A60 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 19:09:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Sep 2012 01:12:41 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.248] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Sep 2012 01:12:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1040.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Sep 2012 01:12:41 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 49338.61765.bm@omp1040.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 91229 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Sep 2012 01:12:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1346893960; bh=ueYq06HFfNH6Bgb3YR8ZJSFo+Xc4fkgVQ+bQ779kp9g=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SMQru+S1oh31u4dCC3+OrR1iZbZp+/8oplMSt6fpPuCJFMtRC30kUzjPsRWAuCu83QkD2A/2/PV+Y34DqgaqVqLRWGBNvlvKqKmsheF7wGPBQIHzH7u4VR3o+8AxkSq6marYZ9Oam3Mw+sOKpYiMnuX3/p+S0uLBrVXDshAgvxU= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LT7FaSrWGYGjrIYMKrbGoHt8RujVm52aXdVmeEEtvuNaLn4m8OLRS/ZMPKbTgoyiMztpL5iDLRNHW+HIOPHH8c2ADzjCYIRP5wuuRbSsno+8TKQJVaDVaUAOgh1Lzsm3n82PXwagSIQpNbKHwtwg+7q66IMezTCiXbJi6pX/C5U=; X-YMail-OSG: HpEgC5EVM1noGM5nRhn3imC5fwy1QY6NbcCYsl8BDvJO3bj 4rNzeTBGR.rWmRtXNYgCgE8AEm_.ciQ_ywL5HzkfrsraKC1_wscFarqmnm3A _wxauzsBPF9iZosMMxZe35rOVEnUZwnfU.FrcY4Yz47pqcGRmTBqmy_VqOzp aKjeR2I7lJ1KDl5Sz3qh_s5CI2zn6SzaCu7IDrIJpPBZwpgPhUg3o22_MlG2 1bdjVnEn4tsUz3OBAPoF6DGWq7hlXaIXGMcNWBSy1UgSE04fTyCtmjgY1uqH PUz73zClNW6wnKYNUFCi_vvRQoJuxBmPbJ9P7O1v3546exJQC3QIHCL11h0U _KhO.n.aKdjBi9qXSrEhAmhlGa1lSsLbx89Bv84Q.I7MFEwehmQTWIOax_8M LTwyDFB7Sme4nya8t59wogP3OydTQF54hl7dDtn8ASHL7Mic95j9d Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 18:12:40 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 18:12:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Nafziger List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Just put my new seat tracks in (tr-3) and tightened them down but sliding the seat on was a chore. I also find they don't slide back and forth very well at all. I'm slightly disappointed but think over time things will get better. Just wondering if others have had the same thing happen. I've bolted the tracks on the floor over the carpet. thanks gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 5 23:03:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4082D0927 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:03:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8FA2D0753 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 21:41:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbon3 with SMTP id n3so1060698lbo.14 for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:43:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=IvYhkmVZg2TMKqpTpQqwGcWZPL16OENx5IulcLRlkd8=; b=Hdczg9C5Z4a6F9CZbpYs6gx4ypgNOjUSiObWIRjaX86DH7cErcSmuSYRap4I+mLIHC YuQ4RxTqA7mQcT86/RoTzjifK7Bi6HwafJVZZ0D5+5MGxWv4Yz00eSdTa0aH4YATfL0d dwF5AhrUpwMGOqxJIub4AjWnNEGY7CVR0K1czijIkYkwA6hT8vWc/LQNMEFh21RVFLeZ DzDIJumuH/vTP6KebstYAghkjfHThiWy4b3B7aCfzpdYxwEKi/vc26yL1mTJC+qoeSi7 MZXK1+P3ynanzyM05f9U7rEfKVXR6HOzcp4YF+FFoOhMGRyiV/vWsvp8uoYk6GC/3DnU v/Og== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.148.199 with SMTP id tu7mr537466lab.37.1346903027071; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.2.202 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 20:43:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:43:46 -0400 Message-ID: From: alan salvatore To: Gary Nafziger X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net There should be a spacer between the frame and the carpet. I've sprayed WD40 on the tracks to get them to slide. Al On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Gary Nafziger wrote: > Just put my new seat tracks in (tr-3) and tightened them down but sliding > the > seat on was a chore. I also find they don't slide back and forth very > well at > all. I'm slightly disappointed but think over time things will get better. > Just wondering if others have had the same thing happen. I've bolted the > tracks on the floor over the carpet. > > thanks > > gary n. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/alansalvy@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 6 00:56:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7502D07D6 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 00:56:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E642D0A17 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:51:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=711hjLEARuMA:10 a=DJ69UsQ6LBSpQESgofkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 40/18-17657-79A38405; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 05:54:32 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: References: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 22:54:44 -0700 Message-ID: <074f01cd8bf4$1dbeb150$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2L7canL/FISatpRDiAeDXPLFXrIAABjnDA Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > There should be a spacer between the frame and the carpet. Do you have a reference or a part number for the spacer? I've never seen one. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 6 01:03:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2852D0915 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 01:03:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10E12D099B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:57:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LKXkseq9 c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=711hjLEARuMA:10 a=kswGlkMmp5Y7u4hBOZ4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 67/68-21812-C3B38405; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 05:57:16 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 22:57:29 -0700 Message-ID: <075301cd8bf4$7fd04890$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: Ac2L3AQDDaUCRch6QSy4rfIAiEe2dgAGCn0Q Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Just put my new seat tracks in (tr-3) and tightened them down > but sliding the > seat on was a chore. I also find they don't slide back and > forth very well at > all. I'm slightly disappointed but think over time things > will get better. > Just wondering if others have had the same thing happen. Yup, that's been my experience with both old and new tracks. One of the issues appears to be that the tracks don't wind up parallel, on both the floor and the seat. I haven't found a good solution, but I'm tempted to make a dummy seat with holes, so the bolts into the floor could be left loose until the dummy seat was installed to hold the tracks in the proper location. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 6 01:56:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198242D04D7 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 01:56:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout09.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout09.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DDD2D0A26 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 00:48:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan11.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.11] helo=mailscan11.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout09.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1T9Vvq-0003if-E9 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 02:51:18 -0400 Received: from impout02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.2] helo=impout02.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan11.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1T9Vvq-0005GY-AL; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 02:51:18 -0400 Received: from authsmtp06.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.6]) by impout02.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id virJ1j00607rVmq01irJnL; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 02:51:18 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=HIVB5/Rv c=1 sm=1 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=UWBKU8OG_3kA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=711hjLEARuMA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=FVpMKz4vzh_cHzdH4dYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=fsJ80uyv01TBpq5N3xWxAg==:117 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.6 X-EN-IMPSID: virJ1j00607rVmq01irJnL Received: from c-69-180-140-196.hsd1.mn.comcast.net ([69.180.140.196] helo=triumph) by authsmtp06.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1T9Vvq-00011F-1u; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 02:51:18 -0400 Message-ID: <4E92916EC0584F3F97E92C062527EF38@triumph> From: "Greg Gelhar" To: "alan salvatore" References: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 01:51:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-EN-UserInfo: e42cf78691180d9d9fd0715a4121692b:575ebd0ae47b8b6522b84cd16b3b758d X-EN-AuthUser: greg@gelhar.com X-EN-OrigIP: 69.180.140.196 X-EN-OrigHost: c-69-180-140-196.hsd1.mn.comcast.net Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Al, do you know of any catalog reference for the spacers? The seat track design seems to lack the rigidity needed to hold any alignment. Greg G. Osseo, MN ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks > There should be a spacer between the frame and the carpet. > > I've sprayed WD40 on the tracks to get them to slide. > > Al > > On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Gary Nafziger wrote: > >> Just put my new seat tracks in (tr-3) and tightened them down but sliding >> the >> seat on was a chore. I also find they don't slide back and forth very >> well at >> all. I'm slightly disappointed but think over time things will get >> better. >> Just wondering if others have had the same thing happen. I've bolted the >> tracks on the floor over the carpet. >> >> thanks >> >> gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 6 06:58:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9153A2D0757 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 06:58:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9652D08E9 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 05:23:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lahd3 with SMTP id d3so1296756lah.14 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 04:25:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=6F3yDXr7HATRT2opzC1dkPR6rn7VDTiPCMxX12WY08U=; b=aKGaQXi/kq7fdMmdu1X3ZirQSoYgckM+XSaTeLGYGIvrkVnLbTDOgWT3z+2H4ukX7J wBRn9xx+yj516xrK+wIS6mnqy5DB88kox3fiGH2jH0C8UWnIEbP81/GZ4OKiLv27O5Dp n6i92wf3AvW929cUMm0qcOniUlldFI/ZSyrX/mPzL6BO0xUstKisoll21Vkt03wmmanE 9MnT28pw/g/GDv8ROM3odkuV6jbbCbfrFnVu+ZR8QB1kKyhcEuTXxO/2chesWuHDDbso AGGmczz9bwQWHA+tnXjdrWSUIlgXyD7ueiw09XasN8YCi6+bZQ5Y7Iqe23Qr0Yrc+dV9 0GcA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.42.33 with SMTP id k1mr737515lbl.96.1346930746855; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 04:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.2.202 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 04:25:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E92916EC0584F3F97E92C062527EF38@triumph> References: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4E92916EC0584F3F97E92C062527EF38@triumph> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 07:25:46 -0400 Message-ID: From: alan salvatore To: Greg Gelhar X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I don't have a tr3 catalog, but the TR6 TRF catalog lists it as WM67. Spaces seat tracks from the floor. $1.28 EACH Al On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 2:51 AM, Greg Gelhar wrote: > Al, do you know of any catalog reference for the spacers? The seat track > design seems to lack the rigidity needed to hold any alignment. > > > Greg G. > Osseo, MN > > > ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks > > > > There should be a spacer between the frame and the carpet. >> >> I've sprayed WD40 on the tracks to get them to slide. >> >> Al >> >> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Gary Nafziger >> wrote: >> >> Just put my new seat tracks in (tr-3) and tightened them down but sliding >>> the >>> seat on was a chore. I also find they don't slide back and forth very >>> well at >>> all. I'm slightly disappointed but think over time things will get >>> better. >>> Just wondering if others have had the same thing happen. I've bolted the >>> tracks on the floor over the carpet. >>> >>> thanks >>> >>> gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 6 07:09:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103A62D0788 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 07:09:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5FB2D095E for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 05:56:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q86BxI6E009336 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 07:59:18 -0400 Received: from core-moc001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moc001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.1]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0EB50E000086 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 07:59:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <34868.2934c81e.3d79ea15@cs.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 07:59:17 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1346932758; bh=WpOp7Txpc9hbtZFP/G8OwADow0KVFrV/ZTkpQmvTP7s=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pFMoApevEc1/grZrl+hSmRge0OKzT6EVGwPQvAbutrUzdmIb1iH8PMFY9JJgBavaj slPyZC6R3RYrkZvW4NTRpcZS6S2ZNjFFHbXOhjDXYiKUI95HnS9LwQTgTuIAoKzjwC FlWyjLucU8xIjVdzXW8iJdXI8jctKVozd+Qnwb70= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:423431264:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b5048901654c7 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I just put new seat tracks in my TR3 and they slide quite easily. In fact they seem a little too loose and I've adjusted the seat mounting to tighten them up a bit. Do the individual tracks slide OK when not attached to the seat? It could be the seat is putting a twist load on the slide causing them to bind. Or it could be they just need lub. Dave In a message dated 9/5/2012 9:58:34 PM Central Daylight Time, nafzigerg@yahoo.com writes: > Just put my new seat tracks in (tr-3) and tightened them down but sliding > the > seat on was a chore. I also find they don't slide back and forth very > well at > all. I'm slightly disappointed but think over time things will get > better. > Just wondering if others have had the same thing happen. I've bolted the > tracks on the floor over the carpet. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 6 14:27:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC42A2D0776 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:27:22 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18BED2C0C9D for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 13:21:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.76]) by qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vo7N1j0021ei1Bg5DvPuZQ; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 19:23:54 +0000 Received: from sz0048.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vvPy1j00P2xV5no3kvPyj6; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 19:23:58 +0000 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 19:23:54 +0000 (UTC) From: tfansher@comcast.net To: Gary Nafziger Message-ID: <1985904584.1598378.1346959434567.JavaMail.root@sz0048a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:71.42.38.82] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - IE7 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Gary, I've had some luck using nylon washers from Ace Hardware.B I used the size of fender washers to go between the rail and the carpet.B I also stacked them with more in the front and fewer in the rear to elevate the seat a little. I think I used 3 or so in the front, two in the middle and one in the rear- you could use more or less. I used nylon so they wouldn't rust on the carpet.B I had wanted a nylon "incline plane" the width of the rail but raised in the front and lower in the back, but had no idea of where to obtain such a beast....By raising the front of the seat some, it's a lot more comfortable (at least for me). I've done this on both the 3's and the early TR4.... good luck Tom 60 TR3A 61 TR3A 62 TR4 73 Stag Mk II ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Nafziger" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 9:12:40 PM Subject: [TR] seat tracks Just put my new seat tracks in (tr-3) and tightened them down but sliding the seat on was a chore. B I also find they don't slide back and forth very well at all. B I'm slightly disappointed but think over time things will get better. Just wondering if others have had the same thing happen. B I've bolted the tracks on the floor over the carpet. thanks gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 6 16:33:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4452D08C6 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 16:33:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com (mail-vb0-f41.google.com [209.85.212.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67D82D09F7 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:48:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vbkv13 with SMTP id v13so2488794vbk.14 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 13:50:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=hSdjvayjY5EGx69IH1CzK49tC7BnVqg6yHSOKAiUIBs=; b=lt15+s+ooiodHr8vMomtR9ZvOAO9r3+RswY9rB90ASqOCd6EIkbRNpvi8BcGNJLf0c aU+A0CTV9RSij4OueyXPi+ZHa6Gqna0cAxrXwe9jIZTAnfnYQ5K/plty9AMnmxn8PdDw Fz6X3LCEpMoPPl+1QWt0y3yc9PZhAZgCfOdcMshYvqGTmDT7TDKev3BvFQyEKp2Gsr9u lYIMT4c9JnOkwER5KwRoGWyXQr3XXluF8eLkZYEeNCj+HERFhGyUPUgE4Td8XjyQ/TSe EkW9yVIBldjnF38ukTuvwh+QuzGzR0oVRxucqvJftcleqOuFcQxRCAr4mpPIaN8H/eQv /9HA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.174.202 with SMTP id bu10mr3406103vdc.128.1346964628305; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 13:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.179.15 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 13:50:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <074f01cd8bf4$1dbeb150$0601a8c0@randall> References: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <074f01cd8bf4$1dbeb150$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 16:50:28 -0400 Message-ID: From: Brad Kahler To: Randall X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net In the Standard Triumph TR4 factory spare parts catalog it is listed as "Spacer, between seat slide and carpet". Part # WM0817. My 63 spitfire also had these spacers. Brad On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Randall wrote: > > There should be a spacer between the frame and the carpet. > > Do you have a reference or a part number for the spacer? I've never seen > one. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/bkahler1@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 6 18:50:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A3D2D0B36 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 18:50:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF352D092E for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 16:40:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so3498556pbb.14 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:43:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nmqLabUTmIbyWEcSqsEWDErZU+QSxT9u0O6kqdFMIyI=; b=NKN9h7yCdFEjk3QZecMoSSVFdfqfH/j9C2A7OeIyFJ53cznB+srGSwwpRnOLgcJZPL pHTFAKa544Y2X4R3eU1jFgT1irmBcA4Up26E1XNU5AhXeuVkQy8keL5Dkaqh91SFmxL6 I7J/6BHxcCyDIaAVmy6f9vblayGBtxOJ2y3UJVJSKh64abcUfSBl9yT0rWQyF0uRZsgi 5AdfcPBeGhhEtjnNgmPsVvnhmIfFYoPil6jBEEavz6EBHRQYlJssnSj0eFVy4d/ZIvVh rphoCRhCWG/tRHbSX8aLCtW/x6HGYIU/jmi37cMV6Xf9UkgPFFXSePIAwJWU5rODgeDn +t6w== Received: by 10.66.87.132 with SMTP id ay4mr5304196pab.82.1346971395320; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-152-169.phnx.qwest.net. [174.19.152.169]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pj8sm2051384pbb.60.2012.09.06.15.43.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <504926FF.2050108@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:43:11 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <8CF24758AAFF7BD-FA4-193FD@webmail-d146.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph service bulletins formerly at "little mac shop"? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have a number of Service bulletins in my TR web site. 1954 through 1965 covering TR2 through 4A. www.tr3a.info/Service_sheets.htm TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 6 23:05:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18FBB2D0B67 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 23:05:42 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5598B2D09A8 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 21:06:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lahd3 with SMTP id d3so1943443lah.14 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 20:09:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MXaopJFslH07XhhkMpXluE4HvVzeURdUgdxJwSW89xc=; b=xQnkL4UlNt14KVwqWpOEDMiRos1acE6oO4JZVFAQAaCGJFiZJ12jcTR8SSWT1n1M/l kgWqalUjiR9OCAoB9g4mduUhj72kzjcbQ/To+yf9IvAw+P7zxciO/l7+cd54JwqIj72H aHRksyTZXoSfxBQ8GXeUxgyx1TqEx06jqUGboCp8mZqul7J6cxm+Q2xrTo2ET30pbF2l kaIf1sLQu894xm6Ykas0JpdhaOXUVk5u7ShZv37pBrI45YAj7g5at1jBWrdth3Y3nj5I yeyRWNlHMSYuYKuo/eliIcwnGeGeO5FY3kjgBOzkMQLFdIjg0pgbSDrX28pn+iwUeW2j sQQg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.114.5 with SMTP id jc5mr1273783lab.36.1346987341865; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 20:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 20:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 22:09:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: Don Hiscock To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Silver-painted TR3A/B oil filler caps -- any details regarding shade? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The original oil filler cap on my TR3B was silver. After twenty years in a barn as the restoration got parked the remnants of silver (and some red overspray from who knows what it its past life) are hard to see, let alone match to something. My cap pre-restoration http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-Q75msdV/0/XL/i-Q75msdV-XL.jpg As this gets repainted and put it back in service I'd like to shoot it silver rather than the more common (and easier to match!) black. I happen to have a rattle can here of Eastwood Detail Silver used to restore an old wire wheel as a spare. This color was suggested by Allen Hendrix to match the new MWS wires now on the car and it's a pretty good match on the wheels, especially after shooting a clearcoat on it. There are surely a few other silver filler caps out there from this period -- on TRs or other Standard Triumph products like Heralds, IIRC. If anyone on the list has an original silver oil filler cap, I'd appreciate any comments about how close the oil filler silver is to wheel silver or another reference. The restored wheel up close to see the finish with Eastwood Detail Silver http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-MrMTKBd/0/XL/i-MrMTKBd-XL.jpg Restored 48 spoke against new 60 spoke http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-trK5XHx/0/XL/i-trK5XHx-XL.jpg Thanks in advance, Don 1962 TR3B TSF202L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 6 23:30:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF242D0D7E for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 23:30:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E2F2D0A8C for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 21:58:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=711hjLEARuMA:10 a=mQQL140Pji8LM_ya1gwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 25/89-17657-D8179405; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 04:01:17 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: References: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><074f01cd8bf4$1dbeb150$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 21:01:32 -0700 Message-ID: <089401cd8cad$77bedb80$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2McT8DJtJB0u/XRdO0cXite8kVXAAPACvg Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > In the Standard Triumph TR4 factory spare parts catalog it is > listed as "Spacer, between seat slide and carpet". Part # WM0817. Yes, but there is no such listing in the TR3 factory spare parts catalogue; and it's seat slides are completely different than the later cars. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 04:55:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C85D2D0AF3 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 04:55:20 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692312D0A4F; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 03:26:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120907092850.LXTS12025.mta21.charter.net@imp10>; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 05:28:50 -0400 Received: from Desktop ([96.32.2.169]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id w9Uk1j00B3enFnk059Uq21; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 05:28:50 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=qU9vTENroOq2s6i9/sTxZt9WOCoWX/XGfIT3Tj8F8dQ= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:17 a=mkuR5niSAAAA:8 a=Ht4s7-g5op7VwELywgMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=62ZarXVP-catiZZN7RAA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:117 From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" To: , <6pack@autox.team.net>, Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 05:28:42 -0400 Message-ID: <000601cd8cdb$2c0b58c0$84220a40$@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2M2rDuQyThz66aTjW0wo8rPS5MSA== Content-Language: en-us X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Car Show X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Reminder to folks in Southern New England - the Connecticut Triumph Register will be hosting their 32nd annual Gathering of British Motorcars this Sunday, September 9th. 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Alex Thomson ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 04:58:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0BD2D0A94 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 04:58:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pz0-f41.google.com (mail-pz0-f41.google.com [209.85.210.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64D32C0D44 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 03:49:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by dadi14 with SMTP id i14so1853278dad.14 for ; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 02:51:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=H0jU8Zo3WfDZiYXAbzwW9zr9p+0/YWm0P4Y0DfUKyz0=; b=bbj2VYBo08O1oecbITBqLrVHgGxi2GTVEFkzPGQplvGg1inJzmKQxby3j0C7MO65Xh A88s4MvejCiM6YUWMdVKMoK9KBcmHHd3VB87SgZRMxhFYveI5qwMeDaB6MA8d6eKZaUA bqvwbdcTwc7k7k26AKvV3vYDetawBiSfgr8F4XKUziaOgr+0SrTMm8m72FLKrdjgqNwG 2kKOrHCT9cFhK0w9OT91XZOMWmD52ar7uJH4+2qBk8gY6Z5oESKWWkTstZm9Ml71efMG o0jtjiBOxrY+yiy0vRFhROFyvdupBSBBoHK17vEEuIQ7/gjJOoz73zM8j+RiGmeNv9x0 YDNg== Received: by 10.66.73.9 with SMTP id h9mr7718225pav.76.1347011517969; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 02:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-152-169.phnx.qwest.net. [174.19.152.169]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pv9sm2840365pbb.67.2012.09.07.02.51.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 07 Sep 2012 02:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5049C3B9.9050608@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 02:51:53 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] Silver-painted TR3A/B oil filler caps -- any details regarding shade? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/6/12 8:09 PM, Don Hiscock wrote: > The original oil filler cap on my TR3B was silver. After twenty years in a > barn as the restoration got parked the remnants of silver (and some red > overspray from who knows what it its past life) are hard to see, let > alone match to something. My guess would be silver hammerite. It was commonly used throughout the British car industry where they wanted a tough oil and rust resistant finish. TeriAnn > My cap pre-restoration > http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-Q75msdV/0/XL/i-Q75msdV-XL.jpg ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 06:37:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB722D0A2C for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 06:37:57 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA962D0772 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 05:25:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbon3 with SMTP id n3so2278193lbo.14 for ; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 04:27:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=+ln0oGgmHu3cHhYng2lJ94tWRnPmsHVO69n1Zq0Dms0=; b=kV8ppuBfnKXssD3+Jvx1KbvT5B+5BsDfl60m6JcZGBzdXOoXjV/Dm2PkQs7awJ3JAK OtRFNnG2VSbZ338A7ETun5CxElg+eicgpeaDCSz6skpKip3IOhm4syir/fnyx14pkXoL TPnj0zFVqbo1iDyUmJ1ZVBIyG3s9ToMpeMnQH8STHJnq9yXOQ4xjusW0XrqMA6u9PPmM LJM7f3PzWZQFtMNPwZFZORauXa/PkQAQrz43hblw3yn84HIwbSshJR66QHAb5BxMRjyw VCiUEUTAVE/Wub5hsxaYP07AhAW3K8j0UytoYyBWROsz2ItdJkewdBoz3US7WkNlZRGg QLTA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.82.42 with SMTP id f10mr2058278lby.95.1347017275053; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 04:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.2.202 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 04:27:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <089401cd8cad$77bedb80$0601a8c0@randall> References: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <074f01cd8bf4$1dbeb150$0601a8c0@randall> <089401cd8cad$77bedb80$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 07:27:54 -0400 Message-ID: From: alan salvatore To: Randall X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Probably just means Triumph hadn't thought of the spacer at that time. As they were always adding improvements. And a plastic spacer would have been a better idea than the metal one since it wouldn't rust. Al On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:01 AM, Randall wrote: > > In the Standard Triumph TR4 factory spare parts catalog it is > > listed as "Spacer, between seat slide and carpet". Part # WM0817. > > Yes, but there is no such listing in the TR3 factory spare parts catalogue; > and it's seat slides are completely different than the later cars. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/alansalvy@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 08:30:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409C92D0A03 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 08:30:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2532D033B for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 07:33:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iec9 with SMTP id 9so6190993iec.14 for ; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 06:36:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=KFHHOkFsvT9M25lBnGVcgrhV50Kg/Bk5K8U3jJFJXa8=; b=h7lNlqITT/JP1NmxdoL0TYPB7/xVZglb4n2Y8792MyP8tkRxI0twxsWZTHUS7oEAhQ J0RofInzhgvTaUdpNcZwEDcETmHgK2P//7V4a/Zw8V176oE7BGrBr5DBdq/gOYYYSCMa fz/0WSzJngUdJE8q0KcgLZPFh1HtL58VllJXf9J75A6pFcOT7lxxXfEFXY470nG9CARb Sw47mD5FMJiuA6SACWTsWxfITSQxprVTLuvo227eh7xKXTMz0+RvfAzCuOygd56jzlgI 1glAGzQwp2w/q3MYEjlLnqc6FwbWvp7jzZGqGaP94YsWsG2BX/5kGp87clVtiDkX1JKd sgfw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.57.168 with SMTP id j8mr8711361igq.16.1347024970457; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 06:36:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 06:36:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 06:36:10 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Silver-painted TR3A/B oil filler caps -- any details regarding shade? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Is Hammerite generally available (e.g. Ace, Home Depot)? Also -- does someone know the approximate change point from 'plain' to 'dimpled' caps? Geo On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Don Hiscock wrote: > The original oil filler cap on my TR3B was silver... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 10:24:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EFFC2D03C0 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 10:24:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp003.mac.com (st11p02mm-asmtpout003.mac.com [17.172.220.238]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C182D0AD7 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 08:35:39 -0600 (MDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [192.168.0.25] (71-222-108-105.ptld.qwest.net [71.222.108.105]) by st11p02mm-asmtp003.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0M9Z007JJHZUOJB0@st11p02mm-asmtp003.mac.com> for Triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:38:24 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-09-07_05:2012-09-06,2012-09-07,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1209070134 From: Darrell Walker In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 07:38:17 -0700 Message-id: <26E1C9FE-254A-40FD-9E5E-2A5A085E2ED9@mac.com> References: To: Geo Hahn X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Silver-painted TR3A/B oil filler caps -- any details regarding shade? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Sep 7, 2012, at 6:36 AM, Geo Hahn wrote: > Is Hammerite generally available (e.g. Ace, Home Depot)? Rustoleum has hammered-finished paints now. -Darrell -- Darrell Walker 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206 Vancouver, WA, USA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 11:15:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFE22D0690 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 11:15:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D262D034B for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 09:58:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so4682979pbb.14 for ; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 09:01:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7YN8t+OSKEOrBg0IzRRt4FI0dzYfaugvcxGtZkfaKZQ=; b=ZJUkm+ZtEYI8IK4xGxFMRYEsvSu3hbLk9TgTrv8LXmVyRscOp3ToopeG9G+Ih9AXcF +sxZXSsSz8dFEJ/LuS8KFe0vOnkoHffTNI8CF1htmgJ4HG3EXvTS1Mct3RKVUylBMwD0 EWvCZWxM7eFbX7CrvqGvsaUkZIJGP0WNqd8YddJosAB4sAw6x/4dKPTjpMZTV7ZULTS5 pCMWDCwoqp+a8KVrcqfGLdPn0K+9y52AZ2yD3GgaC6sGf1noTvJck6IT2sLNtAEmJWYC UYNM3UVJ95dSmB55lrPC1idu9LKlSAExziQgOVdPw9bJ+/8LRih1ai00JqSo5WZ4i4/+ YwDg== Received: by 10.68.226.167 with SMTP id rt7mr10178919pbc.146.1347033696656; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 09:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-152-169.phnx.qwest.net. [174.19.152.169]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hr9sm3343109pbc.36.2012.09.07.09.01.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 07 Sep 2012 09:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <504A1A53.6050502@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 09:01:23 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumph List References: <5049C3B9.9050608@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] Silver-painted TR3A/B oil filler caps -- any details regarding shade? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/7/12 7:33 AM, Don Hiscock wrote: > Thanks, TeriAnn -- OK, I just looked the cap up in the TRA concourse judging guide to be sure. "The early and late caps are similar in appearance. Both are domed with mesh breather filters in the bottom. The early cap has a flat top profile; the late cap profile has 3 thumb grips, and a round, domed, profile. Early caps are black. Late caps are found painted black or hammer-tone (specific color unknown) gray. Decal. A decal is fitted to the oil filler cap tops. Two basic styles of decals are used. The early decal is divided in a pattern of concentric circles. Later a pie pattern decal was used. The following variations are known: TR2/3 -- Large concentric circle decal, black with white markings. TR3A -- Large pie-pattern decal, black with white markings. TR3A -- Little concentric circle decal, black with white markings fits caps with thumb-holes. TR3A/3B -- Little pie-pattern decal fits the caps with thumb-holes. TR3B -- Little pie-pattern decal, Red with white markings (only observed on some TR3Bs with hammertone caps)." There is a hammerite gray which is a darker gray. Hammerite silver is more of a gray silver. Check with the remaining paint bits on your cap. It it looks at all like a silvery gray go with the hammerite silver. If you guess wrong you can always buy another can & respray. I get my Hammerite paint from my local ACE hardware. One had it in stock on the shelf, the other didn't stock it but made a special order for me. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 11:44:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A62C2D068B for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 11:44:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.enterhost.com (mail05.enterhost.com [208.65.128.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2AE2D0390 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 11:42:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 99-187-242-14.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.187.242.14] by mail05.enterhost.com with SMTP; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 12:45:20 -0500 From: "G.D. Huggins" Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 12:45:14 -0500 Message-Id: To: triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [TR] TR4A - Radiator Draincock Thread Size Question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net All, Would anyone happen to know what the thread size is for the draincock on a stock TR4A radiator? I don't want to have to pull it out to measure. I suspect its 1/4" NPT. Cheers, Guy D. Huggins 1965 Triumph TR4A CTC 63569LO Online project diary at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 18:34:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5D62D0649 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:34:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm35-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm35-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.238.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2AA062D04BD for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:34:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm35.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 00:37:43 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.111] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 00:37:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 00:37:43 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 366634.40862.bm@omp1016.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 60734 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2012 00:37:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=6l9yOzdrFx1cSxd8QdI9MBUjrjS9pWXvnRpi5JdzoGxFmUSXRlAhfjoC6NqZAUJqPOXKaN7ll+ePhGUZlrtVfGKiQCeqI8YCWaxEYIVv8jJzZuN7p58QRqHpJ0UV2dANdJ9sD5VCP37MQClkD8OKAL4VUEeUC3sBZ3XrykolX/I= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1347064663; bh=JMCrUzsuuwc8+b/et+wRCPVjNWHelCcmICCUtUpS1Xc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=wURKTH5T1LjzXebuFiqy8ln52Dha924jox+oe8kU//Cv2DFujMO/FFEnZxcuVR+WYZCnVYe3wN1Upnn8uiLkcQENJY/9OJaH7YxEUyI1K3Cv9wDFe5JGyy3TSLD4YToRZwoBtXbD38eXhSuLxqU1hYsYQV0nAPA2SPzD52Z4Ztw= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: rqUmkbgVM1nY5txt81ez62WPXMVuH4Xty4TACDw1uWtggWm bQYtXTPzix96y4ZYUBVIhjaUKcAAdVg_mtNWAgxykjs1NwEcPe45dEI.aj96 9rnOpm9mjQtq.ia.rGTTOgUwbdSfBPyKRrNu5XLloJbIyunPlwWV0zr24Tdh BTAc3FBDsfqXAf.c.kgSmdU5SZmb8Sz8C6FPB.U17OOqGj7p1Vycp00n6iFI SrzpfYRfb4r.OofaMBSy0JtGgbxEq1Lb7duIcO0CMPoAcdnDb6dQpklt3wIX tAI_b4Gnb9jTRBZD2EQ1y4kueTbEEAZJqH3x7kF1EwWlcrTUtlHksKjomcrG Upu6EHi6OopJg47.ptGmHLX0l_woIKXn1ig2OEhPABgpOdDO5UvO0GLeHPgr evXmbArlm08C2.nz9KElvQI7VqeaVfUUbQoI7i.p3cM_ogjkft5o- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 07 Sep 2012 17:37:42 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:37:51 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2NWhW3tIZ/m4dETN2mTxtsATWl2wAAAw4A Subject: Re: [TR] Rostyle Wheels X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ISTR a lot of traffic on the list a number of months back about Rostyle wheels. I mostly ignored it not looking to replace the new wires on the TR3. Now, a friend with a 1980 MGB has indicated he is thinking of replacing his factory Rostyles with some new chrome wires. So I thought of the list and herewith are a couple of questions: 1. Will 14" MBG wheels fit on some TR models? 2. Is there really someone out there looking to acquire a nice set of originals, he bought this car new. If there is a deal to be brokered, I am happy to be in the middle as a non-profit participant. NFI, Bill ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 18:37:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2310B2D0650 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:37:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0372D063D for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:37:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA3A2E021 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:42:38 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <504A947F.7080609@bradakis.com> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:42:39 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] Rostyle Wheels X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > 1. Will 14" MBG [sic] wheels fit on some TR models? There are brake clearance issues. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 19:07:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97CC32D0631 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:07:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout13.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout13.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.106]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2AE72D0513 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:07:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan13.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.13] helo=mailscan13.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout13.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1TA9ZF-0006yz-P1 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 21:10:37 -0400 Received: from impout01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.1] helo=impout01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan13.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1TA9ZF-0003fG-BA for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 21:10:37 -0400 Received: from authsmtp17.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.17]) by impout01.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id wRAd1j0040N5tVm01RAdr8; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 21:10:37 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IICA+3TG c=1 sm=1 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=UWBKU8OG_3kA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=Qy8bJKGqINQA:10 a=GuYXChqt5XFbPF_rTh0A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=lUmgnZIiPNyYlqfA:21 a=Xg5-KtBgtWV-znIU:21 a=ayZJSlMgWVhgG3n+ZwULew==:117 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.17 X-EN-IMPSID: wRAd1j0040N5tVm01RAdr8 Received: from c-69-180-140-196.hsd1.mn.comcast.net ([69.180.140.196] helo=triumph) by authsmtp17.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1TA9ZF-0001cN-3L for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 21:10:37 -0400 Message-ID: <20B006A574CE41679FA427CB2626BAA2@triumph> From: "Greg Gelhar" To: References: <504A947F.7080609@bradakis.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:10:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-EN-UserInfo: e42cf78691180d9d9fd0715a4121692b:575ebd0ae47b8b6522b84cd16b3b758d X-EN-AuthUser: greg@gelhar.com X-EN-OrigIP: 69.180.140.196 X-EN-OrigHost: c-69-180-140-196.hsd1.mn.comcast.net Subject: [TR] Heritage Certificate X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Can I get a Heritage Certificate for a TR3B if I only have an engine number? I am wanting to know the commission number. The car was titled by the engine number. How many states did that? Greg G. Osseo, MN ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 19:23:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910BA2D0697 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:23:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f169.google.com (mail-qc0-f169.google.com [209.85.216.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10E92D0655 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:23:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by qcsd16 with SMTP id d16so136048qcs.14 for ; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:26:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=lJSadljj5DX3PCnR4LXLrvb1jEKc9RZzkh+TLnG26jc=; b=K9WsJDRKGcTGfJ7O+3Nzq+/er77uBNGyAgOF7rXdYv4xS4nrugHsnGTUVfI6g8cE1m iSAoBWAcV8uPwf+tB8HrNnH529SsvZkko1MACOCIsgfRLj1i8U3+zYqr5sDLwO/R5vqs HfXvblu7sthl+wpo6HBoBxoleCJ0RJFAzWVPzEcBZ86NFAdkLsb4fr2BiKis0i6SViLi 5q4GNwqra+2BN0iYC7rGDJ35I0NN+7z9eKovI1VTv1EZVvXgDiVPZ+gHe1l2vM+O1cIU lMR9u/Y81HLkZvw8NOhfOcr3rjK0TZOO0mRl7KItL4KR6VHbySfwTrJYd5rymJBq5M/Q +S+Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.105.100 with SMTP id s36mr2349761qco.88.1347067593046; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.28.34 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:26:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20B006A574CE41679FA427CB2626BAA2@triumph> References: <504A947F.7080609@bradakis.com> <20B006A574CE41679FA427CB2626BAA2@triumph> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:26:32 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Greg Gelhar X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Heritage Certificate X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net As I recall, yes -- but it costs a bit extra. Geo On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Greg Gelhar wrote: > Can I get a Heritage Certificate for a TR3B if I only have an engine > number? I am wanting to know the commission number. The car was titled by > the engine number. How many states did that? > > Greg G. > Osseo, MN > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@**gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 19:24:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BAF92D067A for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:24:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD6B2D0655 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:24:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vms170027pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.3]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MA000J4JC17LAJP@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 20:27:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 71.127.35.140 ([71.127.35.140]) by vms170027 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 20:27:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 20:27:07 -0500 (CDT) From: thenicholls@verizon.net To: greg@gelhar.com, triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <5758569.2003737.1347067627772.JavaMail.root@vms170027> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Verizon Webmail X-Originating-IP: [71.127.35.140] Subject: Re: [TR] Heritage Certificate X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I would contact them and provide all the information you have, and let them tell you if they can validate it before you pay for the certificate. Craig 1972 Triumph TR6 On 09/07/12, Greg Gelhar wrote: Can I get a Heritage Certificate for a TR3B if I only have an engine number? I am wanting to know the commission number. The car was titled by the engine number. How many states did that? Greg G. Osseo, MN ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/thenicholls@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 20:22:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E052C0C80 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:22:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FFCF2D054E for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:17:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q882KMuE029481 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:20:22 -0400 Received: from core-ddb004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-ddb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.52.77]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8A972E000086 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:20:22 -0400 (EDT) From: McGaheyRx@aol.com Message-ID: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:20:22 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.7 sub 19 X-Originating-IP: [70.147.250.42] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347070822; bh=2IPz7MLESS104vBZpTCIFCplZILn2YT3CTSzcy76iWo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=F/gFwKov1lhEcdzZ7VkaIB8R53mf/k0nBka0QDYsSTfaCzhCAxzc2A1x0SzOHQgRV qNnHR6bSLYA5CXYxdw1T0HgDo38XuCo+SNiBf5gxHNZBr5yia7H3zhoq+GjicQYkDJ 5QvzMNjnOiH1T8WtbSrCyYgUCYu8eMMyXZnvqvsI= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:430632384:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca504aab666c97 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This question is, I think, in the same vein with those about the service bulletins. I recently snagged a "1977 TR7 Repair Operation Times" booklet - an original British Leyland publication intended to serve as a flat rate time guide for dealer service departments - interesting - IMHO anyway Does anybody have these for other models? TR6? GT6? TR8? are they posted online anywhere? Cheers, Jack Mc ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 20:53:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59C82D06B0 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:53:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from dfn.com (mail.dfn.com [74.116.128.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3D92D0659 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:49:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] [199.83.117.192] by dfn.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-11.5) id 710e0000de3142da; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:51:48 -0600 Message-ID: <504AB2D4.1060308@dfn.com> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 20:52:04 -0600 From: Michael Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: McGaheyRx@aol.com References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/7/2012 8:20 PM, McGaheyRx@aol.com wrote: > This question is, I think, in the same vein with those about the service > bulletins. > > I recently snagged a "1977 TR7 Repair Operation Times" booklet - an > original British Leyland publication intended to serve as a flat rate time > guide for dealer service departments - interesting - IMHO anyway > > Quite apart from collector value, the dealer flat-rate guides are always interesting to read, in part because of the outrageousness of them, but also to glean where the big problems were--most times were on the short side, but the big design bugaboos were always kept really short, because they knew warranty reserves were going to be depleted by them, anyway. Still, if one was working in a dealership, there was not much hilarity in them. I recall well a new Corolla that the owner had asked for an extra key, we cut him one, and it fit, but not perfectly--either the key code on the car was wrong, or there was an imperceptible burr on it, but the key wedged in the "start" position, and the fellow took off and drove about fifty miles. This of course turned the starter into an unregulated generator, and it fried the starting harness (0.3 hours to replace by the book) which took about fifteen minutes, and a part of the instrument harness, which had to be replaced as a unit. Book time for that was 3.0 hours. The entire dash and its support structure had to be disassembled to remove the old harness and route the new one (about thirty major pieces). I think it actually took me ten hours, and about halfway through it, the shop manager was about ready to have me committed because I started yelling at the top of my lungs, every time I hit a snag, "I wanna meet the little Japanese guy that can do this in three hours!" Still and all, better than the poor GM guys across the street at the time, who were having so much trouble with poor design with regard to disassembly/assembly issues that they were averaging about 12 flat-rate hours a week, even though their yard was full of cars waiting for repairs. Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 21:56:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21472D06AB for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 21:56:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099712D067A for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 21:55:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=ZxVny_6QjDsA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=2ZqCTPE6sj4A:10 a=V_QVz9srAAAA:20 a=V9H8278vAAAA:20 a=nM0CzfQHAAAA:8 a=4glUeq_8AAAA:20 a=Yr1Ny-pF7p_2Aofjx2UA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=eiye6hF8BKAA:10 a=S5G-F1CbE-wA:10 a=PpvQEwnPbwYA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 93/A4-28917-172CA405; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 03:58:41 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:58:57 -0700 Message-ID: <09a201cd8d76$46357be0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> Thread-Index: Ac2NaT7mjJnXCDWYTEuq4wrbnzmNOwAC8B5w Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Does anybody have these for other models? TR6? GT6? TR8? > are they posted online anywhere? I have them for Stag http://tinyurl.com/98tq3sz and TR3 http://tinyurl.com/9t5jm32 -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 21:58:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A506B2D06E6 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 21:58:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07EC62D0686 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 21:58:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H+ZZMpki c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=ddqFx66VxicA:10 a=s5ZVbGLMcWTzyEk8F40A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=0KTb3xqKFlKZ2vV0:21 a=fLDAwbOoUZr4BhM1:21 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55003] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 53/7F-15382-813CA405; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:01:28 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Greg Gelhar'" , References: <504A947F.7080609@bradakis.com> <20B006A574CE41679FA427CB2626BAA2@triumph> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 21:01:45 -0700 Message-ID: <09a301cd8d76$a9d79e30$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20B006A574CE41679FA427CB2626BAA2@triumph> Thread-Index: Ac2NXtHO+x2X4MYMTrmMLxh+/TVlEgAF5Q0g Subject: Re: [TR] Heritage Certificate X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > The car was > titled by the engine > number. How many states did that? I believe it was somewhat hit and miss. Anyway, my 56 TR3 was originally registered in CA by the engine number. I had it changed to the commission number when I got it transferred to my name. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 22:00:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144522D0694 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:00:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B212D0686 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:00:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LKXkseq9 c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=CkGzXMeGUhQA:10 a=cmqXGcG8lw6Lh6LbGhsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=6oaSbb84T8tHvM2V:21 a=bTSCPbIHsNeSWOT9:21 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id D4/70-21812-D93CA405; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:03:41 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 21:03:58 -0700 Message-ID: <09a401cd8d76$f9332b70$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2NWhW3tIZ/m4dETN2mTxtsATWl2wAAAw4AAAclDHA= Subject: Re: [TR] Rostyle Wheels X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > 1. Will 14" MBG wheels fit on some TR models? I believe they will fit on Stags and maybe some of the 2000/2.5 models that came originally with 14" wheels. But I'm not interested. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 22:07:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34122D065E for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:07:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8C22C0459 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:02:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wC1W1j0031zF43QA1U5Ezk; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:05:14 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.63] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wU5C1j00Y4L5TyG8kU5DeK; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:05:14 +0000 Message-Id: From: Bud Rolofson To: Dennis Culligan In-Reply-To: <003b01cd8ad8$617af6f0$2470e4d0$@net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:05:12 -0600 References: <003b01cd8ad8$617af6f0$2470e4d0$@net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dennis, If you run your hand back and forth on the surface of the tire you should be able to feel which direction the rubber is wearing. It will feel different as you go back and forth over the tread width. One way will have an "edge" on the tread pattern and one way should be smooth. Having that information you may be able to figure out how the tires are tracking down the road (or not tracking) and why they are wearing the way they are. Much like cupped tires indicate bad shocks, wear towards the inside/outside can indicate wheel alignment issues and also what direction the tires are really pointing in as you roll down the road. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) levilevi@comcast.net On Sep 4, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Dennis Culligan wrote: > While we're talking about tires. I recently noticed some wear on the > outside edge of the > > right front tire on my '76 TR6 so I decided to rotate as I usually > do, front > to rear to front. > > However, upon further inspection, I could not help but notice that > both > right side tires, front > > AND rear, were decidedly more worn across the whole tire (not just > the edge) > than the left > > side tires. How exactly does this happen? The right sides are > nearly shot > while the lefts look > > fine. Tires are Vredestein Sprint Classics and have about 25,000 > miles on > them. Any ideas? > > Dennis Culligan, Highland NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 22:17:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31E72D0686 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:17:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9532D0648 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:17:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Vb91zSV9 c=1 sm=0 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=ddqFx66VxicA:10 a=j8LMS7g5Bg-F0lK58bQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=11kGg_FEG_1DtOVG:21 a=ParP3EXKuNLTwM5G:21 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.84.49.244 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:53394] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 53/F5-17584-397CA405; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:20:36 +0000 Message-ID: <0777D9FD7ABB46CBBC4F9914E27CE595@GregPC> From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Randall" , "'Greg Gelhar'" , References: <504A947F.7080609@bradakis.com><20B006A574CE41679FA427CB2626BAA2@triumph> <09a301cd8d76$a9d79e30$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <09a301cd8d76$a9d79e30$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 23:20:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] Heritage Certificate X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The car was titled by the engine number. How many states did that? I believe all states titled cars by VIN number or car number, but in the actual titling process (I assume) they grabbed the first number they could find off the car or made a best guess as to which was the car or VIN number. My old Austin Healey 100 was titled in the body number, which was much easier to find on the back of the firewall than the VIN plate riveted to the frame below the engine. Greg Lemon 68 Triumph TR250 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 04:44:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814202D065E for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 04:44:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6442D063D for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 04:43:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ool-18b8ba55.dyn.optonline.net [24.184.186.85]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MA100I5N1WIYMO0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 06:45:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 06:49:46 -0400 From: George Richardson In-reply-to: <0777D9FD7ABB46CBBC4F9914E27CE595@GregPC> To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <504B22CA.2040601@key-men.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120907-1, 09/07/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: <504A947F.7080609@bradakis.com> <20B006A574CE41679FA427CB2626BAA2@triumph> <09a301cd8d76$a9d79e30$0601a8c0@randall> <0777D9FD7ABB46CBBC4F9914E27CE595@GregPC> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 Subject: Re: [TR] Heritage Certificate X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My 57 TR3 is titled by the engine number. Good thing it's still original. :-) George Richardson Key Men - Keys for Classics www.key-men.com On 9/8/2012 12:20 AM, Greg Lemon wrote: > The car was titled by the engine number. How many states did that? > > I believe all states titled cars by VIN number or car number, but in > the actual titling process (I assume) they grabbed the first number > they could find off the car or made a best guess as to which was the > car or VIN number. My old Austin Healey 100 was titled in the body > number, which was much easier to find on the back of the firewall than > the VIN plate riveted to the frame below the engine. > > Greg Lemon > 68 Triumph TR250 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/gpr@key-men.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 05:16:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 390DA2D065F for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 05:16:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6847A2D0643 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 05:15:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so880859pbb.14 for ; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:18:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=o0kEk4u8hH6wr6RnKXkuE6SBOGHH3+ga7JCn1b4lex0=; b=yEef5uMa0B78nLyuhiU3RAGi3nEgb2fGPn5FaoirfVGsHOFUmozPbIHcpp87KAT4wq MG36xMtA8wm3aV93YwIeFJ3+Vk/aDSjkbDYCZX3ph52f1rita0denQm7W3LFQ67vcBYm LbQLlhRXLG5VUqEi7Ctuya2KvwzBO6odgpNpUaWM5JAbrULsTki/kiIZhjhFv7rhEBDw lwYj2rWJ7jmYp+XJdXRmT4XbpVnmbkzt9hdX4I0nrZ/hElnZy57IrpHbrQLVm8C7klEJ YH2uB+mVd+SFX1OVRVg5IuRCEzLB4VOwNcrVzZpZAlTr+OXPfcIykINDF07Wu/TdHSpP Dhag== Received: by 10.68.131.67 with SMTP id ok3mr10607886pbb.140.1347103098184; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-152-169.phnx.qwest.net. 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Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <504A947F.7080609@bradakis.com> <20B006A574CE41679FA427CB2626BAA2@triumph> <09a301cd8d76$a9d79e30$0601a8c0@randall> <0777D9FD7ABB46CBBC4F9914E27CE595@GregPC> <504B22CA.2040601@key-men.com> In-Reply-To: <504B22CA.2040601@key-men.com> Subject: Re: [TR] Heritage Certificate X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/8/12 3:49 AM, George Richardson wrote: > My 57 TR3 is titled by the engine number. Good thing it's still > original. :-) > Once upon a time, there was a person who owned a Triumph wrecking yard who decided to have his employees build up a nice TR3 from parts in the yard. This was a project to fill in otherwise employee idle time. The car got built up, sent off to a body shop, painted black and when it came back they put a new interior kit in it (Red if I remember this fable correctly). The owner built the car out of assorted TR3 parts to sell and wanted to present it as an original car that was freshly restored. He decided that the engine & car should have matching numbers to show originality. So he bought a new commission plate and stamped it with the engine number. Until now it was the only car I know of that had a commission number that ended in an 'E'. ( TSXXXXXE) When the car was finished, it was entered into the Palo Alto British Car show and won a people's choice award then was sold for a princely sum. Hopefully the newly born TR3 lived happily ever since. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 07:37:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B8C2D065C for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 07:37:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm30.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm30.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 55D9C2D064F for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 07:30:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.52.195] by nm30.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 13:33:48 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.102] by tm8.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 13:33:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 13:33:48 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 885672.50978.bm@omp1007.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 91982 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2012 13:33:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-reply-to:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=mx8CzEdsK5dIzsu5cn5DC/aM3BDbMZiglNJkWmPrbYUoDFn4hXabFuaH76sEvtkC9pklxi0FspyB/qnv3H3DBNnA1gXrXS27QUx0h1i2N2jYdXQ+LZk0M0HX55E1Xqt9s5IwUQOA/BjaFeYWig0y0Spt8OVFS1B2YHeYjwLGNMM= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1347111228; bh=+ZUej5ZungET21M4/U5zNtL6JClXI88uE8GzGz1QpuY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-reply-to:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=Bgk0TtBKwogk8gxovZpRlomgHlfagqJomWfm9AM8tFnMgr9XnI2CsLbhLn7z++F8KG2XGLgWMx7tXYuo8QSW6KHl7bWtu0POHV+ryPMi6ETOtR73Zov+iP57xev1c2ziOj+G5YxGPyWgHMRG8/N/gUllKtcA+FhAnqDhejFxw00= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: hT3AKk0VM1lomX.BXjmOOOt3yv1sV0Hfuy6bOBVZRRV4Mnw Q99L40XU9emaLbZY3Zf6rzcunhjC1xJJwNOBqZuRL43aw6jeIRpVJ12HM.Oo ZGwoZB0j5BGCTnPzk40T4ulr8RKA9at4vAqpRSdVuWze4MEGBMO1VlsJmaQt f1cOC7RJV0M7Ntkn7lZ..M9CHqXVLdtOf.btXJE37TbG51vlsX4Dm6F9ekdn aJs9SfEgIAimErvDwDT8MTmlYhz0e0ep6ARQKRen8nD0WSr2lI433Wje_7iR CGP5aTK0QcG97ZcTv8qo5HV8ZvYCHm9L8SRvmv.q5Wk3K7a8CpSH0LP.NeTW hdECpD0XgwodSTxXkiyGNN4TN6A4mhevRlS0suAAfk6gojOi.EaOMax7aqsP cefKPqeitZIpxlv7t8dKzvXAaZCOHE5khYoE86yZXNq0YymEbzHONsj3tWQP dF.aWSylDkMcerjXshXVr43xkpaObx7vkJllzbRs6Sy_g_cV7 X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp112.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Sep 2012 06:33:48 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'TeriAnn J. Wakeman'" , References: <504A947F.7080609@bradakis.com><20B006A574CE41679FA427CB2626BAA2@triumph><09a301cd8d76$a9d79e30$0601a8c0@randall><0777D9FD7ABB46CBBC4F9914E27CE595@GregPC><504B22CA.2040601@key-men.com> <504B2975.90602@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 08:33:40 -0500 Message-ID: <00ECB598B6064A12A14E3332B10C56C6@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <504B2975.90602@gmail.com> Thread-Index: Ac2Ns9vO/g3SHijsSHiMwBXDmXRRpgAEgLQw Subject: Re: [TR] Heritage Certificate X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Don't know about the "E" but ISTR a TR3 on eBay some years back that boasted 'matching numbers'. I just figured some guy put a new VIN plate on and matched up to the engine to show originality and try increase the value of his car. -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 6:18 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Heritage Certificate On 9/8/12 3:49 AM, George Richardson wrote: > My 57 TR3 is titled by the engine number. Good thing it's still > original. :-) > Once upon a time, there was a person who owned a Triumph wrecking yard who decided to have his employees build up a nice TR3 from parts in the yard. This was a project to fill in otherwise employee idle time. The car got built up, sent off to a body shop, painted black and when it came back they put a new interior kit in it (Red if I remember this fable correctly). The owner built the car out of assorted TR3 parts to sell and wanted to present it as an original car that was freshly restored. He decided that the engine & car should have matching numbers to show originality. So he bought a new commission plate and stamped it with the engine number. Until now it was the only car I know of that had a commission number that ended in an 'E'. ( TSXXXXXE) When the car was finished, it was entered into the Palo Alto British Car show and won a people's choice award then was sold for a princely sum. Hopefully the newly born TR3 lived happily ever since. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 09:31:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704922D066B for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 09:31:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from db3outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (db3ehsobe004.messaging.microsoft.com [213.199.154.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6C52D0656 for ; 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Sat, 8 Sep 2012 15:33:43 +0000 Received: from go.tcd.ie (winehub1.college.tcd.ie [134.226.252.14]) by imx1.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22C148F1 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:33:43 +0100 (IST) Received: from GOMAIL.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.69]) by winehub1.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.14]) with mapi; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:32:58 +0100 From: John Gillis To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:32:16 +0100 Thread-Topic: Triumph Repair Time Guide Thread-Index: AQHNjdc57dDjH6tgaEyooUrvDSlJNQ== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-IE acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: tcd.ie Subject: [TR] Triumph Repair Time Guide X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net have one for the TR2 John Gillis Senior Conservator ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 10:02:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA6A2D0394 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Guess Ibm not getting that wiring harness in today. This is a dumb issue, but, wondering if anyone else dealt with it. TRF sells part #RG3 for the large grommet on the RHS of the firewall through which the wiring harness passes. This grommet is for a 1 7/8b hole and is the same part number for TR6. The hole in my car is 1 3/8b. TRF doesnbt list any other part. Moss only lists a 1 1/2b grommet for the TR4A and nothing for the TR6. Does anyone know either 1) the correct TRF part #; or 2) if the Moss part fits a 4A? Thanks much, Cliff ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 12:07:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03CE2D066B for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 12:07:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A54C2D0639 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 12:03:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iec9 with SMTP id 9so1084334iec.14 for ; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 11:06:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=vt4vZrgFxmkkTOzKFUUEX5tFuaajfNKslo5EvNh2LsA=; b=MBURKiQdCmBoFXj4PoDTsJUya9RUc166v1uS2G+Mdv7+7X+htwhD7QC5C88/Sq2qxL VHGosaC2Pg8OJy1I28oGZdvaDLAsrFby1wiMBCqegaec7u5ejD21Y4LL9TaJ1SrUMsbW dQbL4XrfASzZKkCV/jbe2ERaTZb5RRWMDPF+sItpY3kOvBP7MgCnZo4qmV5rvCJR1Q+z QNfb3nE3qUNeyDcad+oqLlvB/Nv6FpoEWI5FGlfdVLJX7O2M5eYAiPEZfe6hietMp/CC YkS9RaGOIW6bMfXmAXyy9OfuyXikevmaZHGPIz5FgLWNTT5v/WvkXbeqXlQx64OlH9Tn p1Jg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.57.168 with SMTP id j8mr3559554igq.16.1347127585487; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 11:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 11:06:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <09a201cd8d76$46357be0$0601a8c0@randall> References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> <09a201cd8d76$46357be0$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 11:06:25 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Just click on the Stag link for the TR3 and on the TR3 link for the Stag. Geo On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Randall wrote: > > Does anybody have these for other models? TR6? GT6? TR8? > > are they posted online anywhere? > > I have them for Stag > http://tinyurl.com/98tq3sz > > and TR3 > http://tinyurl.com/9t5jm32 > > -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 12:19:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30ACD2D067A for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 12:19:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F91F2D0642 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 12:17:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wgbed3 with SMTP id ed3so456167wgb.20 for ; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 11:20:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=EneLhuTGzd1tGMRDW5w+p+sb2uz03NT7QuW29A2Phzw=; b=j7q+ktEewq3PMhxzCUM7gssReAtLW5vvlihvvsqdHKRBgvc8rYmI6/g5GgIzblGeZS gGqbOZ8vp5+mLfrMg4JuXNyzRpsEZ5tTRFpWY7ajLHTWF4fhhiZWNnlUGC/mc/aA3Mf2 mDD5pCl1MfEt7X2ahw3EKu1LdvJGBOdgn9KdkhkspYsSMfkfGSZaUhmBHOk9UZZhd7nm AfWq+j7YIMJt02zkqP5VQvEzqSln9vm3AJ0Xc3PXShBUFSRaBPklszZQ8Gp9wloxnC4c jKmPap/PyKn3sn0LgboDlncdl8+kMvD1xXL+ktp2os8Tb8A5+pneg/bEFZly9ps3L+gZ TYlQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.133.106 with SMTP id p84mr270777wei.55.1347128451253; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 11:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.132.214 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 11:20:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [80.28.107.115] In-Reply-To: <5C790DBDD9034DD5ADC8D2A20E22430C@Shemp> References: <5C790DBDD9034DD5ADC8D2A20E22430C@Shemp> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:20:51 +0100 Message-ID: From: ADRIAN DIX-DYER To: Cliff Hansen X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnzmWSxr2fiZIZJ3lrMNNui660vlaQQz2y9cuc1Oc9YxVwYaWBPFM9civtuNS/90EG1WIWm X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - wiring harness grommet X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Two quick solutions I can think of: 1, Make the hole in the bulkhead larger or 2, Make the grommet smaller by cutting and re glue with Superglue. It is very dependent on the circumference of the wiring loom that you have to hand. Adrian TR4A CT64306 O Wales UK. On 8 September 2012 17:05, Cliff Hansen wrote: > Guess Ib m not getting that wiring harness in today. > > This is a dumb issue, but, wondering if anyone else dealt with it. TRF > sells > part #RG3 for the large grommet on the RHS of the firewall through which > the > wiring harness passes. This grommet is for a 1 7/8b hole and is the same > part number for TR6. The hole in my car is 1 3/8b . TRF doesnb t list any > other part. Moss only lists a 1 1/2b grommet for the TR4A and nothing for > the TR6. > > Does anyone know either 1) the correct TRF part #; or 2) if the Moss part > fits > a 4A? > > Thanks much, > > Cliff > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dixie4.wales@virgin.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 13:22:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3C92D065F for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 13:22:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0318E2D064F for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 13:21:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lahd3 with SMTP id d3so452268lah.14 for ; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 12:24:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=d97HslEZO+XxopFPNQ2VE+sfRO+bTu1IY4J1h0pSqdM=; b=jyZHOGedgU2ehtOnOi4QtFftmop2se9i51m47LPZk9XMnjQIHrEJ4sUG+Rr/88QTZf UJuD3jMcaqMCOAF1qKe5h3EANrOd2rue948AzO0J+AXJ3mTlFNCFDAH9i59WezHrRmx1 JcQtD6dQyWaD52Lja6U6YeA7C3dpf5wTXi9ZBP/TPRmN/WrhmD3mnK+7cUvX99674dmy ToePWzxSQFWlnR+qbcWkag4LFjKqbi6owLV0ZtIYu16K+6KqkUOfU+kGtAnOZFft+lee 2ot+fdIFavKcc8A1Y/0sjpNX5A2Pky+gHLx2PZgAjg3c77NRo+ihiUDrvEOxFmGfFFv9 pZLg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.146.169 with SMTP id td9mr8247194lab.42.1347132244138; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 12:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 12:24:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5C790DBDD9034DD5ADC8D2A20E22430C@Shemp> References: <5C790DBDD9034DD5ADC8D2A20E22430C@Shemp> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 14:24:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: Don Hiscock To: Cliff Hansen Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - wiring harness grommet X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dunno the answer to either of your specific questions, but there are lotsa sources for grommets of all sizes if you decide you need something not available from your normal suppliers. This one, for example: http://www.britishwiring.com/Grommets-s/32.htm?searching=Y&sort=5&cat=32&show=100&page=1 Don Saint Louis 1962 TR3B TSF202L On 9/8/12, Cliff Hansen wrote: > Guess Ib m not getting that wiring harness in today. > > This is a dumb issue, but, wondering if anyone else dealt with it. TRF > sells > part #RG3 for the large grommet on the RHS of the firewall through which > the > wiring harness passes. This grommet is for a 1 7/8b hole and is the same > part number for TR6. The hole in my car is 1 3/8b . TRF doesnb t list any > other part. Moss only lists a 1 1/2b grommet for the TR4A and nothing for > the TR6. > > Does anyone know either 1) the correct TRF part #; or 2) if the Moss part > fits > a 4A? > > Thanks much, > > Cliff > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 13:38:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8232D064D for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 13:38:57 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from col0-omc1-s13.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc1-s13.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.23]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D302D0640 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 13:38:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL122-DS10 ([65.55.34.7]) by col0-omc1-s13.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 8 Sep 2012 12:41:45 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [74.111.244.194] X-EIP: [dUaF1qbgeUscbFwmBN0GN47CsqbthXJk] X-Originating-Email: [peterara@msn.com] Message-ID: From: "Peter Arakelian" To: "Listers" Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 12:42:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN 9 Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 12:42:01 -0700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2012 19:41:45.0410 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA95B220:01CD8DF9] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] tr6 engine mounts X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net OK, I need to replace mine. Engine is supported by a floor jack and 2x4. Any tips? Looks like getting out is easy enough, what about aligning when putting back in? Please answer off-list, too. I'm working on it... Thanks.. Peter 71 TR6 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 14:59:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701982D0659 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 14:59:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fipsb02.cogeco.net (smtp2.cogeco.ca [216.221.81.29]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5992D068B for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 14:59:02 -0600 (MDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlYCAAGyS1BDwWks/2dsb2JhbAANOI4FsTRAPRYYAwIBAgFYCAEBrzaSdY4qgx8DlV2THw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,392,1344225600"; d="scan'208";a="54667962" Received: from d67-193-105-44.home3.cgocable.net (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([67.193.105.44]) by fipsb02.cogeco.net with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2012 17:01:55 -0400 Message-ID: <504BB224.1050300@cogeco.ca> Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 17:01:24 -0400 From: Art McEwen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120908-1, 09/08/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [TR] TR3A rear spring "fulcrum" bolt X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Is there really nothing but rust holding that odd triangular shaped head of that bolt against the frame? That front bolt is all that's holding the spring to the car now and I'm about to start applying lethal force, just wanted to check first.... Thanks, Art TS64989LO ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 15:30:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292282D0697 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 15:30:20 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.165]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B60DA2D04C4 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 15:30:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 21:33:08 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.110] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 21:33:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 21:33:08 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 346149.64819.bm@omp1015.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 20021 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2012 21:33:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=ZmFrBkcbA+LjZSGbMyeiXT5A5MoOuiEa6W8F6A2+v7Q9eecO7f9XBb2cRQWf/FzYjy4tLzwVj5pvu1R5fhVuz9J4Ad9/21EU1FLxVMLvEB7X+A/g4hV9R39kBsj6pzKPneT35qnu7WJo9MGqR3fJutz8gS7j4RXGkM8LvVdspO0= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1347139988; bh=mWF4MZcfb1j1dHtI6Klfqcz37SiclLODEW+XTD0gdT4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=L/mQasUyDkpCfP9QRjW2rDrvZ3NZb+ewrbqnmX7F/R1ZYTsoCG/i+RFUT6sdb1Fh45anWHABOUx361ZEifm61AEhS25kR77nMFdP4uOWHYFIRSZgnI5BdQ9gbkkh1x6HYnCw2whEzvaUhHPx6i/oZFjgK+3VTLd1jDqHUQNosuY= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: PEExAFUVM1lOImtegyAw.DwbjMrO8MhkCswImaihgrQMv3f vLyWzvxKrALAOBXALkkO1CWPzPgMNbzsvIkJbtHY76ehdVvEUIuBB9y1q9QG fedAzZJbey1beMEbSd5VoFqs69cq6WzHRMB8Bp2vIz.G8gILwvyOGawALKLY aCZbHVV1OVkkFsg_CxCSmHb2ktfGrkPUrJcfmkph9RLbT6dU.f.dvCIE5IrP i.5KGiMaAzg8FlpT3ldTmHOX8tn4FumBJ6APc4YihVZgO1qZLj8joxUbU7xt eHLEHoXsOoO2jPKItKQRxHceM6kj2OJlm7NhXmuctn.gOGtWKFKvowhEye7x tvtypXOQ9adxY20ERCop3U2xEPqKxUn3TI2ghT5TQvHpKa8jjLrQCgvYw18g 0mUu4UX2Wc.ZjSCdzenGfGERLoPDRfkhtm.Cn_CRO.QSfayxLJPzi3T8uqD4 PEre.nI.PEARFvktEp_HZkSQNhcdnT.RJpqJxKEoB2EDZfsW. X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Sep 2012 21:33:08 +0000 UTC From: "Wbeech" To: "'Art McEwen'" , References: <504BB224.1050300@cogeco.ca> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:33:02 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2OBU4bRISdj+j+QA6hfg4CNrWYvwAAybbA In-Reply-To: <504BB224.1050300@cogeco.ca> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A rear spring "fulcrum" bolt X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yup, that's pretty much it. Have not heard of any failures or availability of upgraded hardnesses for that piece. Moss & TRF think it is worth about $20, so it must be good! If everything is clean and tight, it is mostly 'shear' stress that it must endure. Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Art McEwen Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 4:01 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR3A rear spring "fulcrum" bolt Is there really nothing but rust holding that odd triangular shaped head of that bolt against the frame? That front bolt is all that's holding the spring to the car now and I'm about to start applying lethal force, just wanted to check first.... Thanks, Art TS64989LO ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 16:30:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840692D064D for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:30:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm40-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm40-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 890E12D0639 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:30:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm40.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 22:33:11 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.130] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 22:33:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp217.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 22:33:11 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1347143591; bh=HOflx+NGijNdpMREPXp5lfL/z2XtkoaTinkpPrVASQI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=bkxwtLuCj/F0Sv1spz75cFQXzjbhPXQWX04HYBM4QXnsFmX1bfNpRe/XHlQIht98956p8pBoCJQnSL+Q9U7fg3lSxKEnpGPV47wV1q/Jfx8XrtEjxBO3I4NNJLDOxB1UrDhzq8brdGQPHpSUawk5OD6JrADqqJ5KhHVvKfyL9Eg= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 698144.96877.bm@smtp217.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 1KaTlt0VM1l4JwQNeF1Qi_Nuitrp_Z2Uk2SeR8YQNAIaxu4 F1O1HExI4E4WHTWglAnDPW5WJ8_sxAMMMmvK0IyotOxxaxdm0lL7aeu7cD8G 7QIzl4Cjw0O8tIzwRzDD3FYtfdRLXqRFQBEqjVDVfe1JDgfYuvTHwzSjum7G PN_sMWDyySOCMTFGaG_MeaZO5a7LhgYMVq6fCpoS2SNaP37DPbwY_XBDNfnm JKSNh2njUSqlcu5qRO5f34y_eM5l24zaakmiFYVZ3r6mNBxDez8ryOvYJLP7 OtnDL2ahUrl2pP04TcVTGTFRMrVdV1q56ww_OUKUHghdq_mZsCY_CBv0TIAO XG9v0E9uKIjtvCBNPIVgIISjE.SwspMgoq67QRJEUWJJ9oJkSNnORCIVhUz. mF5McxXh.uAthUSNmSsmafoPSjHZQbl80.ISXptzvFND4lzQzoyMjsQclllt JYyxZIQKl3EdAbaua7Bu65xth.0ny_8qyumovTmbmRhg444qzgCPgpe6yZLQ kEeXq_Tr.Lj4yA10HJgPgl_vq9odnhPHaiIdWTFEsjzo- X-Yahoo-SMTP: MDGza_qswBAgyXr4jGOoN7xw7ESbp_tRSUhNZ0MvX6drvGE- Received: from bboffice (bill_beecher@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp217.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Sep 2012 15:33:11 -0700 PDT From: To: Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 17:33:05 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2OEehIqEcSpJdcTseRugjUfnLwJA== Subject: [TR] CA & PA reps at VTR? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Copied this from the BCF today, surely there will be more than one representative from the golden & keystone states? BTW, if anyone is travelling down Texas Hwy 36 to VTR, I would like to join you in Abilene. Bill "I was at breakfast the other morning with some TTR members and found only one person from California has registered for the VTR convention in Galveston this fall. And no body from Pennsylvania. I know I will be there, as will Randy but I wonder who else? Anyone waiting until the last minute to register? It's going to be a wonderful event and I hope to see some of you-all there. http://www.kingswayrc.com/txtr/VTR2012/index.html Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9472D0646 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:45:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882112D063D for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:40:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q88MgxvV013736 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:42:59 -0400 Received: from core-moc001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moc001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.1]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 378B3E000089 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:42:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <16f27.44d35b93.3d7d23f2@cs.com> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:42:59 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [99.46.204.207] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347144179; bh=pT+0cBLQbuXRFPZsUfwtHlRmutLv6w91DO95JYUSfcY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=L1Y0xIeQlQlHbzZW8Z5jP6uHBVCsicCKMa3zUFZi2E98YkKbkd6JJHePNeKPoBxzE XT5DlYslbyQbqAHr6JYyar6ZThStv2n2KoaztMCpuhE610Q65yKjLXMuP8QTMQdvai lrLx31Y34+DQFb5Zo32m12nhoxlz4mDi2uxiSjeo= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:422898848:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b504bc9f3035e X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A rear spring "fulcrum" bolt X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net At one point in time there was a small metal tab weled to the frame to prevent the bolt from turning. It is/was up against the flat part of the bolt head. My car still had one of them. Dave In a message dated 9/8/2012 4:02:18 PM Central Daylight Time, amcewen2@cogeco.ca writes: > Is there really nothing but rust holding that odd triangular shaped head > of that bolt against the frame? That front bolt is all that's holding > the spring to the car now and I'm about to start applying lethal force, > just wanted to check first.... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 16:46:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6A42D065D for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:46:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC5D2D0631 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:46:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.194.8.208]) by p3plsmtpa06-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id wmpj1j0024VJViW01mpkbH; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 15:49:45 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Art McEwen'" , References: <504BB224.1050300@cogeco.ca> In-Reply-To: <504BB224.1050300@cogeco.ca> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:49:51 -0400 Message-ID: <003001cd8e14$4356bb20$ca043160$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQKZfIdXmV96UVG/g0PnMlOOYIiG7pXpLz0g Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A rear spring "fulcrum" bolt X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Nothing but rust perhaps, but that's the most dreaded bolt on the TR3.......... Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Art McEwen Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 5:01 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR3A rear spring "fulcrum" bolt Is there really nothing but rust holding that odd triangular shaped head of that bolt against the frame? That front bolt is all that's holding the spring to the car now and I'm about to start applying lethal force, just wanted to check first.... Thanks, Art TS64989LO ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 17:01:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797C62D0641 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 17:01:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AF92D0627 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:53:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BobPC (ool-44c75d75.dyn.optonline.net [68.199.93.117]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MA100EEJZPJ0B40@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 18:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 18:56:04 -0400 From: Bob In-reply-to: To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-index: Ac2N7RHbzSwMtza1Sd2q1dyRGP1MWAAJ4+pg References: Subject: [TR] Heritage Certificate X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net When someone states "matching numbers" it means the chassis, engine and body numbers are the same ones the car had when it left the factory. These numbers would be found on the Heritage Certificate. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 08:33:40 -0500 From: "Wbeech" To: "'TeriAnn J. Wakeman'" , Subject: Re: [TR] Heritage Certificate Message-ID: <00ECB598B6064A12A14E3332B10C56C6@bboffice> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Don't know about the "E" but ISTR a TR3 on eBay some years back that boasted 'matching numbers'. I just figured some guy put a new VIN plate on and matched up to the engine to show originality and try increase the value of his car. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 18:19:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85EBC2D064F for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:19:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa01-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.85]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A4AF82D063E for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:17:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 27543 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2012 00:20:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.184.166.234) by p3plsmtpa01-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.85) with ESMTP; 09 Sep 2012 00:20:45 -0000 Message-ID: <0461E83299C14FFB9FE51AD9BD3FB199@Spitfire> From: "Dave" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:15:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] Heritage Certificate X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net on American cars, the numbers actually match (are the same). I believe that's what TeriAnn was suggesting someone had done to a british car -----Original Message----- From: Bob Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 5:56 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Heritage Certificate When someone states "matching numbers" it means the chassis, engine and body numbers are the same ones the car had when it left the factory. These numbers would be found on the Heritage Certificate. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 18:19:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B9A2D0657 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:19:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa01-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.85]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A09712D063D for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:17:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 27550 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2012 00:20:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.184.166.234) by p3plsmtpa01-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.85) with ESMTP; 09 Sep 2012 00:20:46 -0000 Message-ID: <4C03C48F820148D0995938A8CE0FFDEC@Spitfire> From: "Dave" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:17:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] CA & PA reps at VTR? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dallas is about 5 hours from Galveston. it may or may not be a convenient way station, but if anyone needs a bed and a garage (or a meal), you can stop here. contact me off list dave northrup dallas, tx -----Original Message----- From: bill_beecher@flash.net Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 5:33 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] CA & PA reps at VTR? Copied this from the BCF today, surely there will be more than one representative from the golden & keystone states? BTW, if anyone is travelling down Texas Hwy 36 to VTR, I would like to join you in Abilene. Bill ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 18:22:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243532D0650 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:22:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45C92D0614 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:22:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LKXkseq9 c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=ADibwhNc4XEA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=vD0lB7WbTS4A:10 a=mBlrqGzx6aW4SkmUa6YA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 51/BF-21812-702EB405; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 00:25:43 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Art McEwen'" , References: <504BB224.1050300@cogeco.ca> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 17:26:01 -0700 Message-ID: <0a6201cd8e21$b177b610$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <504BB224.1050300@cogeco.ca> Thread-Index: Ac2OBUb01xgKU5P+TTCW623r8QSWWQAHAP3Q Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A rear spring "fulcrum" bolt X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Worth noting, perhaps, that the head of the pin is tapped for a puller. I used a bottoming tap to clean out the tapped hole, then some hardened threaded rod, nuts & 'setup' washers from MMC plus sockets and a bit of pipe to form a makeshift puller. Worked for me, on two different cars now. I also soaked the area in PB Blaster for several weeks, and beat on things from time to time to help the PBB penetrate. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 18:34:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2602D0657 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:34:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F1A2D061C for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:25:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H+ZZMpki c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=ZxVny_6QjDsA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=2ZqCTPE6sj4A:10 a=V9H8278vAAAA:20 a=V_QVz9srAAAA:20 a=Se_jfR4pAAAA:20 a=n4_hSFlPdO7vc5ZABswA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=VQoNZpC-gOEA:10 a=DizIU2xwkkEA:10 a=PpvQEwnPbwYA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55003] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A4/C9-15382-B82EB405; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 00:27:56 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Triumphs'" References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com><09a201cd8d76$46357be0$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 17:28:14 -0700 Message-ID: <0a6301cd8e22$004de6b0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2N7UBZSzDD0sEvT6+wX6GB6FR5sAANIldA Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Just click on the Stag link for the TR3 and on the TR3 link > for the Stag. D'oh !! Ok, I'll try again: Stag: http://tinyurl.com/9t5jm32 TR3: http://tinyurl.com/98tq3sz -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 18:50:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5856D2D0656 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:50:20 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth19.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth19.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.30]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DE472D0640 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:43:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 29929 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2012 00:46:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.184.166.234) by smtpauth19.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.30) with ESMTP; 09 Sep 2012 00:46:49 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Dave" To: "Randall" , References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> <09a201cd8d76$46357be0$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <09a201cd8d76$46357be0$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:46:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: [TR] somewhat off topic - bicycles and garages and triumphs X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I know that some of you have unlimited garage space (I'm jealous) and some do not. I fall into the latter category. I'm thinking about mounting the bicycles on either the wall or the ceiling any recommendations or warnings? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 19:42:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9B02D0645 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:42:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9B42D0332 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:42:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LKXkseq9 c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=gmxK7z8dNFEA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=peEbWCSlHYoA:10 a=jnKQ5C-eJbaAZAPCHLsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id BA/20-21812-5B4FB405; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 01:45:25 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Dave'" , References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com><09a201cd8d76$46357be0$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:45:44 -0700 Message-ID: <0a6a01cd8e2c$d451faa0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2OJYdjtwW3i1v1T9u/M8QWYSsReQABtjrg Subject: Re: [TR] somewhat off topic - bicycles and garages and triumphs X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I'm thinking about mounting the bicycles on either the wall > or the ceiling Mine are stored with those vinyl-coated hooks from Home Depot, screwed into the overhead joists over in a corner. Only problem is the Stag on jackstands in front of them, which kind of blocks the access. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 20:55:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262112D0675 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 20:55:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97EC62D066B for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 20:55:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lahd3 with SMTP id d3so558471lah.14 for ; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 19:58:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=GqfCIje71xWbIaEvPilHEJn8/tYuE+4SonUCJ2iucsU=; b=h64MxowH/FRxGp8KB2s+gAzgNx2WUP90mjMYFPg+WqV7Y3Wgp/0qdv8Po6AxXf49AS Iy82+gEF7EC4QPKdlcxeCyY4gpGtIzNDCf+XXLfhZFYmIe1FsVYJyzeb7G3Z79RY4Du+ ifDWrI5YIdMVH560AbsT16tPK5yyHDf+nhNYoqDmfbVtp7E7T9Tmr9UBL3/Aq6TyLpcs ELJdE5uQOeJ3kX70EIW1rHnWwkrbHxLf+Uu0r5pxchyz1+x+mK8Axgiu2mYk5IH9+kQ2 b2aQoagGT3m6NNXdNLQ5+cn1U4C0zZB9hxkCbsyTdEBsFCwhWAt+eAKpOIzJyJCU2OzP pojw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.146.169 with SMTP id td9mr8865272lab.42.1347159488696; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 19:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:58:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> <09a201cd8d76$46357be0$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 21:58:08 -0500 Message-ID: From: Don Hiscock To: Dave Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, Randall Subject: Re: [TR] somewhat off topic - bicycles and garages and triumphs X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I've been very happy with the type of rack that mounts to a vertical wall, holds either front or rear tire, and lets the bike hang like it's "riding" the wall. I have three in my basement side-by-side with the bikes alternating up-down-up. This lets them hang closer together than any other way I've found. I got mine at REI. They're available from lots of vendors. Highly recommended. Don 1962 TR3B TSF202L On 9/8/12, Dave wrote: > I know that some of you have unlimited garage space (I'm jealous) and some > do not. > > I fall into the latter category. > > I'm thinking about mounting the bicycles on either the wall or the ceiling > > any recommendations or warnings? > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 09:38:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42DA22C0CAB for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:38:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3C42C0C9F for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:37:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iec9 with SMTP id 9so2242517iec.14 for ; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 08:40:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9GOUFiP5QSpmrGrNBIgpA0Zcn/jLk590NgLdLhqeeA8=; b=SAWBR34eXtyNddbTiQZUtqVLF0pyTa0wD9mBhtXBgirs3r5XeOc/7iapvJxwfT6Vvb LlxikMGklt3Te06omMj2OkOOWjKRzlLWIl5oL0Bg/erMuIbHl7cLtfSxeJ20PLxYp0jT vYnEpnbfDxOyfONzYiqoK74r975siL127lW4b/svHbl9SVyUo5N8i7/f6Kr1U0kcmYdB Rk8lSMJiORIcZt1v9M5AJreh7MzKFkUZGGerNKqVZNsO915AsuFugJdF1DeQbNDeInVh cHoWwXow2sCT8CUZVoqSpVZN08aGuAvm8ldvyeCPLdVX7YeLWd5HGvIJIg9w1aIYQ9oj Peeg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.213.39 with SMTP id np7mr7809322igc.51.1347205245750; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 08:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 08:40:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0a6201cd8e21$b177b610$0601a8c0@randall> References: <504BB224.1050300@cogeco.ca> <0a6201cd8e21$b177b610$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 08:40:45 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A rear spring "fulcrum" bolt X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Randall wrote: > Worth noting, perhaps, that the head of the pin is tapped for a puller... > I'm (sometimes) a 'plan-ahead' guy -- I cleaned that head out with a tap and have been soaking the area with PBlaster every time I'm under there for the past year or so. Will continue until such time as I need to remove it. The 'long-game' approach worked on the cap tube/tstat housing which came undone easily after years of soaking. I wonder what else I should be doing this to. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 09:55:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756F52C0D4D for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:55:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fipsb03.cogeco.net (smtp.cogeco.net [216.221.81.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2242C0D4A for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:54:48 -0600 (MDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBABS8TFBDwWks/2dsb2JhbAANOL54AQEBBDhAARALGAkWDwkDAgECAUUGDQEHAQGvGpJLixOGNgOVXZMf X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,126,1344225600"; d="scan'208";a="349355399" Received: from d67-193-105-44.home3.cgocable.net (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([67.193.105.44]) by fipsb03.cogeco.net with ESMTP; 09 Sep 2012 11:57:42 -0400 Message-ID: <504CBC54.4050802@cogeco.ca> Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 11:57:08 -0400 From: Art McEwen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randall References: <504BB224.1050300@cogeco.ca> <0a6201cd8e21$b177b610$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <0a6201cd8e21$b177b610$0601a8c0@randall> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120909-0, 09/09/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A rear spring "fulcrum" bolt X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks all, I'm chasing a banging noise in the rear and I thought maybe the front silent block was perished and allowing the spring to move around on the bolt but it's not that bad so I'm just bolting everything back up. I think what I'll do over the winter is construct a vice to apply inward pressure to the bolt and maybe tighten it every couple of weeks to see if that removes it. I think the noise is the result of the shocks sliding on their mounting bracket holes which have become more slots then holes. On 9/8/2012 8:26 PM, Randall wrote: > Worth noting, perhaps, that the head of the pin is tapped for a puller. I > used a bottoming tap to clean out the tapped hole, then some hardened > threaded rod, nuts & 'setup' washers from MMC plus sockets and a bit of pipe > to form a makeshift puller. > > Worked for me, on two different cars now. I also soaked the area in PB > Blaster for several weeks, and beat on things from time to time to help the > PBB penetrate. > > -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 15:03:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701E82C0CA3 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 15:03:30 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from ch1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (ch1ehsobe002.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.181.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960A12C0CA1 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 15:03:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail86-ch1-R.bigfish.com (10.43.68.229) by CH1EHSOBE010.bigfish.com (10.43.70.60) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:06:03 +0000 Received: from mail86-ch1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail86-ch1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3354920144 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:06:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:134.226.1.156; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:imx2.tcd.ie; RD:imx2.tcd.ie; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: -1 X-BigFish: VPS-1(zz11fbIzz1d18h1202h1d1ahzzz2dh668h839h944hd25hf0ah107ah1220h1288h12a5h12a9h1155h) Received: from mail86-ch1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail86-ch1 (MessageSwitch) id 1347224760957940_19647; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:06:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CH1EHSMHS015.bigfish.com (snatpool2.int.messaging.microsoft.com [10.43.68.233]) by mail86-ch1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E830C46008A for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:06:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imx2.tcd.ie (134.226.1.156) by CH1EHSMHS015.bigfish.com (10.43.70.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:06:00 +0000 Received: from Vams.imx2 (imx2.tcd.ie [134.226.1.156]) by imx2.tcd.ie (Postfix) with SMTP id 2105E68003 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 22:06:00 +0100 (IST) Received: from imx2.tcd.ie ([134.226.1.156]) by imx2.tcd.ie ([134.226.1.156]) with SMTP (gateway) id A0659F1D184; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 22:06:00 +0100 Received: from go.tcd.ie (winehub2.college.tcd.ie [134.226.252.15]) by imx2.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A86068003 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 22:06:00 +0100 (IST) Received: from GOMAIL.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.69]) by winehub2.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.15]) with mapi; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 22:06:10 +0100 From: John Gillis To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 22:06:09 +0100 Thread-Topic: H4 carb back! Thread-Index: AQHNjs7va/I4O2peo0CMaVIzWChfVA== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-IE acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiVirus-Status: MessageID = A1659F1D184 X-AntiVirus-Status: Host: imx2.tcd.ie X-AntiVirus-Status: Action Taken: X-AntiVirus-Status: NONE X-AntiVirus-Status: Checked by TCD Vexira. (version=1.60.5 VDF=10.130.61) X-OriginatorOrg: tcd.ie Subject: [TR] H4 carb back! X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net After fixing my leaking jet, on the oracle advice! I put my colo(u)r tune on this weekend, I discovered back carb running rich, no problem, wind up the adjusting nut, problem- with the nut fully wound up, the mixture is just about right, but the jet is still not near flush with the top. I know it should be possible to adjust right up to a flush position, of course this would be a very weak mixture. But is there a reason why the jet will not reach the top position. This is the carb I replaced the cork seals on and I am wondering if I could have put something in the wrong place. Regards John 1954 TR2 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 15:44:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA7C2C0CA0 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 15:44:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D05A2C0C8A for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 15:41:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Sep 2012 21:44:11 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.113] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Sep 2012 21:44:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1018.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Sep 2012 21:44:11 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 685467.29181.bm@omp1018.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 16801 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2012 21:44:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=ESoWwimakwDqFnqhM9+nfOR2dRbrbCKsp5MiCEwNJtiRTLip4zFneQeHGjsBD+ip8RErUXD/zTDXJLnOAQfKvyFxnkgQHULelAQD7HDbcrv0sOkGpAe0TE8WVSZoc4uQ2jGLBHgouUzQ7YBBkAATj6H3jCBNp5qT8CI7A99Ku5Q= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1347227051; bh=12GavGgzZWnppzQXN+5UvnMcu41mSyX72SKejhl+OTo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=E6BEZv7JwPpXWTFqrvbXj4NTYFcfdFYQpC3BW279lx38IDMrzXzc1taAk0R5rdAGL8SB8Ge4J+dsolD1z2on9gQOXO1vD2L0oaLD67D+y5AnRFb9laVNNw05YUF10jQQ4cWssSWtAwCAle6ljukR40iaWUHRGi4twZ3nNz8PuOE= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: QBNzOoMVM1kzFaEwvhjyP.qyXpcMveDEl1ZeKpWNdrHetri cQ9lNx6bryLomXdqivts82jXlszKyf2N.MHBrXs2X1Wcx27Cd1TgJ3oEQGSu AvCq.xMXL4yqVdL.vUgDCnY_XkMJwPDax5GaM7Sh7NLXXT7EtwXtSbF2dMKo IfSoNT6.mWihZDEwV7B9TFe9VNY44MA0M_o0bz34xLu1oXJw0jQC2MF6zfep vXDtq01CXtYiFx2kiQnHpyRWlVBZH1xKvnuHuegRZ8Orjj4koMwV1GfxvJkO 9umc1GMhaxTaEayMXjwaegP6vJYuUpYJGPi.y7A5a36K17eYPla3qcYTBXyY L6rZvrKxz4wtdAPT3dQp5nZDtUnnRisBffAwrXxTeNyHp3aTgQksij9dRyEm n.QZeSRpsrWf9Wlh9YfZhDiEg.b3MNKGZeZJ43VQi7FzSPEA89aqRndKxUqP VNXvy1CMDTqaSwyRj404gnb_paZAKCTJJN_ykm5VyT0VsQzVmnCGSBJTf9t8 7shDlbmjP X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp108.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 09 Sep 2012 14:44:11 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'John Gillis'" , References: Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 16:44:05 -0500 Message-ID: <4C850E01C211408E96D2D89F77C921CE@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AQHNjs7va/I4O2peo0CMaVIzWChfVJeCiEmQ In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] H4 carb back! X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Have you re-centered your jets? You should be able to hear a definitive 'clunk' after you raise and release the slide. Is the jet pushed up all the way into the jet barrel? Sometimes when you wind up the adjusting nut, the jet does not follow. Could there be a disparity in the thickness of your large cork washer, the one behind the 13/16" hex. If you substituted a thicker neoprene/viton o-ring this could hold the jet back. Just some thoughts, I'm sure after a short respite you will take another look at it and it will be apparent, not too many things that could cause this. Of course, If it is producing the proper mixture and not leaking, leave it alone and enjoy the drive. Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Gillis Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 4:06 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] H4 carb back! After fixing my leaking jet, on the oracle advice! I put my colo(u)r tune on this weekend, I discovered back carb running rich, no problem, wind up the adjusting nut, problem- with the nut fully wound up, the mixture is just about right, but the jet is still not near flush with the top. I know it should be possible to adjust right up to a flush position, of course this would be a very weak mixture. But is there a reason why the jet will not reach the top position. This is the carb I replaced the cork seals on and I am wondering if I could have put something in the wrong place. Regards John 1954 TR2 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 19:00:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E95D2C0CA2 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 19:00:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222932C0C9F for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 18:50:54 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=szU6ZP8F+w4vJvz+lDgTrovFsdh/SoEqtYm190lw0V+O9ReCqHf0iWtjd+Vt4Nkm; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [69.81.21.129] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TAsFs-0005WE-RJ; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 20:53:36 -0400 Message-ID: <504D3A27.9090500@rmi.net> Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 19:53:59 -0500 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120806 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Gillis References: In-Reply-To: X-ELNK-Trace: 007d46394eab33d9f572e6f2f0078041873357b346419b009835c6001546a01c548b785378294e88350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.81.21.129 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] H4 carb back! X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have heard that some of the kits for HS4 carbs come with washers that are too thick. So there is no way to make the jets come up flush. Maybe the same thing is true with H4 Roger Elliott On 09/09/2012 04:06 PM, John Gillis wrote: > After fixing my leaking jet, on the oracle advice! I put my colo(u)r tune on > this weekend, I discovered back carb running rich, no problem, wind up the > adjusting nut, problem- with the nut fully wound up, the mixture is just about > right, but the jet is still not near flush with the top. I know it should be > possible to adjust right up to a flush position, of course this would be a > very weak mixture. But is there a reason why the jet will not reach the top > position. This is the carb I replaced the cork seals on and I am wondering if > I could have put something in the wrong place. > Regards > John > 1954 TR2 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 20:26:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA6E2C0CAE for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 20:26:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.enterhost.com (mail05.enterhost.com [208.65.128.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB64A2C0CAA for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 20:22:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 99-187-242-14.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.187.242.14] by mail05.enterhost.com with SMTP; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:25:17 -0500 From: "G.D. Huggins" Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:25:11 -0500 Message-Id: To: triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [TR] TR4A - OD not engaging. Not enough fluid? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net All, I just changed the fluids for the first time on the TR4A. Took my first drive this evening. When I went to engage the A-Type OD, it did not. The solenoid is working like a champ.. Is it possible that I did not put enough fluid in the gearbox, even though it was starting to run out the filling hole? Having never replaced the fluid in the gearbox before, I'm not sure what else to think. Does it just take some time after a fluid replacement for the OD to build up enough pressure on the initial use? Thanks in advance. Cheers, Guy D. Huggins 1965 Triumph TR4A CTC 63569LO Online project diary at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 20:41:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9821E2C0CB3 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 20:41:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2CB2C0C86 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 20:35:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iec9 with SMTP id 9so2854002iec.14 for ; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 19:38:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=C5X57vnRRy1SEZ2YBFPqnW/anPtfZxFxDFNxPXmOyGQ=; b=qRPVEA6Nx4ilFHbt9FzYXwQE9buaonHRS9MPBbgrbeXCs2fuTDwI7Pt8dueLt+uaWF EItozJL1KbGmB3320S4bnZsRgd/LDjTJkuaXH3M0Z60AnsKlWAunbB3LNYiBJ8yGBAOz DrqypZqOjYOCXqdNIGrn8u8WQCYhGFjT5GijtN3ijZDTMNeqo6CKbt0PpdZ1Tb+qz0wb ePUgi5NHsw0SGPCMHJ1rZ5r8gf1kngxhKNzrIprzPmXbuG17ZDRa9PgWFtclo9ffnFvq M8m1OcFFPXROUoGcWdIjNqxP0/2oQpfp/69hEU1wDwlppCf4gPArqfG0WLg/3TVO4roY bO3A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.155.129 with SMTP id vw1mr8926866igb.11.1347244726182; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 19:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 19:38:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 19:38:46 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: "G.D. Huggins" , Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - OD not engaging. Not enough fluid? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:25 PM, G.D. Huggins wrote: > Is it possible that I did not put enough fluid in the gearbox, even though > it > was starting to run out the filling hole? > > > You usually can't fill both the gearbox and the OD all in one go. You either have to wait awhile and add more or run things a bit and add more. I think you'll find that it will now accept more oil. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 21:30:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358152C0CB3 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:30:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4082C0CB0 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:30:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=VPlfbqzX c=1 sm=0 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=vC-TMZye1bMA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=S6SUvr51CLwA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Hqk9H_ReAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=vZ9XfiQmBsiJfu5hykgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=SjPjmvP9_5AA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.84.49.244 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:54926] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 52/82-01394-86F5D405; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 03:32:56 +0000 Message-ID: <12FBEA0B16F54FD0A9BBDFAA9449014E@GregPC> From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Geo Hahn" , "G.D. Huggins" , "Triumphs" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 22:32:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - OD not engaging. Not enough fluid? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Agree with Geo, an old BMC mechanic and buddy of mine suggested jacking the front end of the car way up before adding the recommended amount of oil into the gearbox, letting gravity help to pursuade the fluid back into the O/D. Greg Lemon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geo Hahn" To: "G.D. Huggins" ; "Triumphs" Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - OD not engaging. Not enough fluid? > On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:25 PM, G.D. Huggins wrote: > >> Is it possible that I did not put enough fluid in the gearbox, even >> though >> it >> was starting to run out the filling hole? >> >> >> > You usually can't fill both the gearbox and the OD all in one go. You > either have to wait awhile and add more or run things a bit and add more. > > I think you'll find that it will now accept more oil. > > Geo > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 21:42:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F2F2C0C80 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:42:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA532C0CB0 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:40:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Spitfire ([76.184.166.234]) by p3plsmtpa06-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id xFj41j00453lu5001Fj5o1; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 20:43:05 -0700 Message-ID: <2F2B69E4B2A04601AE0F96F288160157@Spitfire> From: "Dave" To: "Triumphs" References: <12FBEA0B16F54FD0A9BBDFAA9449014E@GregPC> In-Reply-To: <12FBEA0B16F54FD0A9BBDFAA9449014E@GregPC> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 22:41:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - OD not engaging. Not enough fluid? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I was also told to do that. -----Original Message----- From: Greg Lemon Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 10:32 PM To: Geo Hahn ; G.D. Huggins ; Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - OD not engaging. Not enough fluid? Agree with Geo, an old BMC mechanic and buddy of mine suggested jacking the front end of the car way up before adding the recommended amount of oil into the gearbox, letting gravity help to pursuade the fluid back into the O/D. Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 10 07:43:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0623A2C0C97 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:43:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s20.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s20.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924872C0BD5 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:35:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU152-W12 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s20.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 10 Sep 2012 06:38:15 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [198.208.251.21] From: John Reed To: triumph list Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:38:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2012 13:38:15.0259 (UTC) FILETIME=[878C42B0:01CD8F59] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A rear spring "fulcrum" bolt -- rear shock mount X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I had a similar banging noise on my TR3 caused by a loose rear shock that I couldn't tighten sufficiently. ISTR it was difficult to get a wrench or socket on the fastener on the outboard shock side. I replaced the hex head bolts with socket head bolts -- the kind that take a hex key or allen wrench in the head. I put the bolt in with the socket head on the outboard side and a nyloc nut on the inboard side of the bracket. This allowed me to get a good grip on the bolt so I could torque it down enough to keep it tight. I did that around 14 years ago and haven't had a problem with it since. > Thanks all, I'm chasing a banging noise in the rear ... > ...I think the noise is the result of > the shocks sliding on their mounting bracket holes which have become > more slots then holes. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 10 07:43:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E942C0D1D for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:43:51 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.blastcomm.com (mail1.blastcomm.com [66.151.17.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D022C0C9F for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:41:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from PhiSchLSpare101 ([70.42.90.253]) by mail1.blastcomm.com (IceWarp 9.3.2) with SMTP id UWB86558; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:43:58 -0500 Message-ID: <1B09D6D02CE3443CB6211918D8BFA63A@PhiSchLSpare101> From: "Michael Marr" To: "Randall" , "'Dave'" , References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com><09a201cd8d76$46357be0$0601a8c0@randall> <0a6a01cd8e2c$d451faa0$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <0a6a01cd8e2c$d451faa0$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:43:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-Spam-IndexStatus: 0 Subject: Re: [TR] somewhat off topic - bicycles and garages and triumphs X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am a sailor and. therefore, like to complicate such matters :). I use a system of blocks (pulleys to the landlubber) to lift the bicycles up to the ceiling. Remember to use the largest practical diameter wheel in the blocks that you select, because frictional forces will then be reduced. Ideally, the tackle you design will be chock-a-block (ie the lower block will be tight against the upper block) before the handlebars hit the ceiling. Yes, this is indeed the derivation of the term chock-a-block, meaning packed in tightly. And, further off topic, my Dad, who was a product of the Royal Navy, used to complain about being "chocker" when he was fed-up - same derivation. I love the English language! Capt. Mike (Master, Gt Lakes & Inland Waters, 100 Gross Tons) -------------------------------------------------- From: "Randall" Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 8:45 PM To: "'Dave'" ; Subject: Re: [TR] somewhat off topic - bicycles and garages and triumphs >> I'm thinking about mounting the bicycles on either the wall >> or the ceiling > > Mine are stored with those vinyl-coated hooks from Home Depot, screwed > into > the overhead joists over in a corner. > > Only problem is the Stag on jackstands in front of them, which kind of > blocks the access. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mmarr@notwires.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 10 09:20:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECCC72C0D27 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:20:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp1.execulink.net (smtp1.execulink.net [69.63.44.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C391E2C0D11 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:20:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-13108.pppoe.execulink.com ([216.75.189.61] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TB5pC-00025F-Ii for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:22:58 -0400 Message-ID: <504E05E3.9030906@execulink.com> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:23:15 -0400 From: Angelo Graham User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR2/3 windshield frame. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello List: Trying to get a better fit on the body to windshield frame seal, took the shield off to install a new seal. Turns out a couple of the screws securing the bottom frame to the top and sides are stripped. Also found a hole - can't tell if it is threaded - in the center of the bottom rail. The bottom rail is loose, not hugging the glass completely. Is there supposed to be a screw in the center of the bottom rail? Trying to deal with the stripped screws in the corner. Is the frame plated brass or steel? To get the bottom rail closer to the glass, what about having the glass sealed to the frame with some sort of sealer or tape and clamped until it sets and grips the glass? Thanks for any help with this one. Angelo Graham ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 10 09:46:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7AE2C0D28 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:46:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa01-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.87]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2602C2C0D15 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:45:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 23130 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2012 15:48:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.194.0.14) by p3plsmtpa01-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.87) with ESMTP; 10 Sep 2012 15:48:17 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Angelo Graham'" , References: <504E05E3.9030906@execulink.com> In-Reply-To: <504E05E3.9030906@execulink.com> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:48:16 -0400 Message-ID: <009401cd8f6b$b2c85b00$18591100$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQElIHUHOaLDh3y0OUrSUghF+uEqbZjUlWnw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR2/3 windshield frame. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Angelo: No screw at the bottom, The threads are in a small "L"-shaped piece which receives screws from the bottom and the sides. This piece almost invariable rots out. The bigger problem is when the screws snap off and have to be drilled out. There is a tape which goes around the glass: in my experience it works well to glue the tape to the glass, trim the excess and then use plenty of soap and hot water to slide the glass into the frame and tighten the screws. The windshield is plated brass. Andrew Uprichard. Just finished a windscreen/shield on a small mouth -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Angelo Graham Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 11:23 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR2/3 windshield frame. Hello List: Trying to get a better fit on the body to windshield frame seal, took the shield off to install a new seal. Turns out a couple of the screws securing the bottom frame to the top and sides are stripped. Also found a hole - can't tell if it is threaded - in the center of the bottom rail. The bottom rail is loose, not hugging the glass completely. Is there supposed to be a screw in the center of the bottom rail? Trying to deal with the stripped screws in the corner. Is the frame plated brass or steel? To get the bottom rail closer to the glass, what about having the glass sealed to the frame with some sort of sealer or tape and clamped until it sets and grips the glass? Thanks for any help with this one. Angelo Graham ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 10 11:04:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112652C0D34 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:04:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.enterhost.com (mail05.enterhost.com [208.65.128.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60322C0D1A for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:00:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 99-187-242-14.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.187.242.14] by mail05.enterhost.com with SMTP; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:03:30 -0500 From: "G.D. Huggins" Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:03:25 -0500 Message-Id: <10E38B5C-EF80-4584-8541-6A916083323E@genfiniti.com> To: triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [TR] TR4A - Overdrive Update X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net All, Quick update to yesterday's OD post.. I raised the front of the car, switched-on the OD solenoid, and filled the gearbox to capacity. I then took it on a test drive and the OD kicks-in just fine now. So, once again this rookie learns something new from you old pros. Thanks to all who responded. Cheers, Guy D. Huggins 1965 Triumph TR4A CTC 63569LO Online project diary at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 10 14:09:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979FA2D01A7 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:09:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from relay8.bu.edu (relay8.bu.edu [128.197.27.85]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904192D0168 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:08:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Envelope-From: lherault@bu.edu Received: from BUSDM801RL ([155.41.214.121]) by relay8.bu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q8AKAJr9015814 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:10:19 -0400 From: "Ron L'Herault" To: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:10:19 -0400 Message-ID: <008d01cd8f90$4d5ac7b0$e8105710$@bu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2PkEgRtflXyXB5T1KEu8Rlro+lvg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] banging from rear of TR3 B X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I had a '58 3 that banged going over a sharp bump. At the time the car's rear bumperetts were missing. Once I found a couple and bolted them on (one bolt was quite long - and I had to improvise spacers wit copper pipe) the banging disappeared. I guess that long bolt also held the rear corner of the body onto the frame. Ron L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 11 05:46:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BB12D01EF for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:46:20 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm26.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm26.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 88E5C2D019B for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:46:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.62] by nm26.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Sep 2012 11:49:01 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.31] by tm2.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Sep 2012 11:49:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1031.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Sep 2012 11:49:01 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 133659.69067.bm@omp1031.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 77573 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Sep 2012 11:49:00 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1347364140; bh=Ppe8mFW/z7fNPegaJknk0B3z2pL7LML5IP10ah1lfjY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=roabAwXE3yKY/IPlkQKYhfyKvnh+MhIpZD3W9r1dxx4DeC9gJ5VnXIfpIdZJ/OcqWS+rebRZe04ySgqnGpIUo83+/SaFTrCE0/rF1qZATCVZIMje0XjYmvOOtP8cCouGT008lFevJF7lZG96KGF1VnR4fbGz+SFsXO1z7dz5D3s= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zQ0TGQIb8R6LU9OqIDwLg7vcGlQxZs3eptNeNY7Xva1hry/vpB5rW9l2eQde8p6ni9bt/YCZc2yoFh5evv6KCStMM6etYQ2IRZJ+QKx1qic4Spm/PyDmE8kP2nL1Ufh6yc+TI7aEl1q2V66cc6nZsCa3dcCkfMMHGOs6Od3RPLg=; X-YMail-OSG: YBTMz2gVM1n8nN.fE9FbYzIQ2bb_vrPzyd52HnhX26DvZwn dag4s8eEZW6zUyzV15hp4duslezLCawBleJnBQmTqUUilAkVH3MGcGlIwPvA NddAlyLOkzPkQPpfIk7.mEf0TGJmqyUzy.zC0IBsEm6Ms7Etv7GhnSTE_0iy isEmoZi62yVc_2h.Tzrs5fKfTyrvg1Jub4HnNBGM0qTDR5KV7ZSDGIcUSgxd .G2KiwqSGwKEMRGCYpZUUb2ltrZgW9dS_opX2xh9SwN0VU_V79WTa6aDtTUN qKjy1iDvQAoc9bzgJz2lkhov1M0O._vNDxtY5JFhEsnYDP6Bcne5xAQjkKjo N5d4pJi8EVYgj_4qywccMNv7qZfwKFR8ViWCqa6CFGx8bm6bCdtFk2wSwweH 23Tww1BNLq9dv4L1eXn0YuFa5P.qUCeA_QQkxUGP2zZhNT5DHDnD5ce2MbmK y_5C.7IDaGyuqJggYXhgzUg6jtwHWWXiUmzI- Received: from [74.110.31.126] by web39403.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 04:49:00 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <1347282408.40291.YahooMailNeo@web39401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1347363912.56630.YahooMailNeo@web39401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1347364140.64821.YahooMailNeo@web39403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 04:49:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Cosmo Kramer To: Digest TR List In-Reply-To: <1347363912.56630.YahooMailNeo@web39401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] somewhat off topic - bicycles and garages and triumphs X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cosmo Kramer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi List! Sorry to bome the list, but I can't send this to Dave. So being that it was on the TR List I'm going to hope that he reads this. -Cosmo Kramer >________________________________ > From: Cosmo Kramer >To: "ve@ranteer.com" >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:45 AM >Subject: Re: somewhat off topic - bicycles and garages and triumphs > >Hi Dave! >This bounched back for some reason. So I'm sending it again. >-Cosmo Kramer > > >>________________________________ >>From: Cosmo Kramer >>To: "ve@ranteer.com" >>Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 9:06 AM >>Subject: somewhat off topic - bicycles and garages and triumphs >>---------- >> >>Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:46:31 -0500 >>From: "Dave" >>To: "Randall" , >>Subject: [TR] somewhat off topic - bicycles and garages and triumphs >> >> >>I know that some of you have unlimited garage space (I'm jealous) and some >>do not. >> >>I fall into the latter category. >> >>I'm thinking about mounting the bicycles on either the wall or the ceiling >> >>any recommendations or warnings? >>-------------------------- >>Hi Dave! >>Now you're talking my field of business. >> >>SUGGESTION: >>1- Hang bikes on one large hook (looks like a long letter "J" with a screw threads on one end & the rest is coated to protect the bike). this way takes up less horizontal space. >>2- Install the hooks (if more than one bike to be hung) the distance apart that = the with of the widest Handle Bar. >>3 ALWAYS hang bike by the rear wheel (because of the drop outs will hold the bike if the rear nuts or Quick Release happen to loosen up some how (I can't think how, but then there is 'Murphy's law'. >>4. Get a Christmas tree disposable bag (Used to engulf the living tree when wanting to through it out to the garbage so needles won't fall on the house floor when dragging it out). Now clean the bike up ( Lube, tuned-up, As if you're ready to ride it.). Now, roll the bike into the bag (back end in first with the width of the bag in the vertical position), all the way to the end. >>Pick up the bike & hang it by the rear wheel (If you're careful, you won't have the hook poke through the bag). Now roll up the open end of the bag a little, then fold the ends inside a little & finish rolling up the bag until it reaches the front wheel. Now take a spring clothes pin & install on the roll to stop it from unrolling. >> >>Now if a thief looks in through the window, all they'll see is a large bag hanging & Not a bike (I believe in the saying, " Out of sight, out of mind." >>Also, Your bike is ready to ride in "NEW" condition. Another suggestion: let some air out of the tubes to avoid 'High pressure leaks, but enough to keep the tyres 'seated' on the rims, with the tyre looking as if it was up to FULL pressure. The bike should be able to sit on the floor with little deform in tyres without any wt. on the bike (Lower about 25-30 PSI). >>-Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 11 19:10:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2947D2D0210 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:10:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0DC2C0D32; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:02:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DennisPC (ool-182c78ad.dyn.optonline.net [24.44.120.173]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MA7007RTPPHTRF0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:05:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:05:41 -0400 From: Dennis Culligan To: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net Message-id: <002001cd9082$bae01bd0$30a05370$@net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac2QgrqfRCrKfk59S0aAmbRjR6orEg== X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR6 on Jerry Seinfeld's new show X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net FYI - This week's episode of Jerry Seinfeld's web-based show "Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee" features my Tahiti Blue 1976 TR6. The show can be seen any time after 9 PM on Thursday, September 13th at www.comediansincarsgettingcoffee.com or at www.crackle.com or a couple of other sites. NFI (well, they did pay me to use my car.). Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 13 06:21:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D322C0D28 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 06:21:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550102C037D; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 06:13:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.74]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8DCGLnf024099; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:16:21 -0400 Received: from core-doa001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-doa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.211.1]) by mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 062C0E00008E; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:16:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip19474@aol.com Message-ID: <56181.6af3a32c.3d832894@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:16:20 -0400 (EDT) To: dctr6@optonline.net, triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 5002 X-Originating-IP: [98.114.133.30] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347538581; bh=j6PIIU5aNcVHFp3oCh2DcuwDmMp2ggCWQk5FWOASGYk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=q7CWIAbGtn69qlsSuZr8f5XV7Wne1jH16RECSLUK9PPVuakPA/ZawIX4s/AoQZIM3 dClIgX4VByqqXOB+mVbJ5Bx6DELZktjqOVY9GD03TYRWwApgDQG0X7v8BUBNAZD93Z UlaizXqi7wBncwkGzi7t/yf9k1f8gCM/R01rrU6Q= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:474245760:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a5051ce951bfe X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 on Jerry Seinfeld's new show X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net congrats Dennis...... In a message dated 9/11/2012 9:13:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dctr6@optonline.net writes: FYI - This week's episode of Jerry Seinfeld's web-based show "Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee" features my Tahiti Blue 1976 TR6. The show can be seen any time after 9 PM on Thursday, September 13th at www.comediansincarsgettingcoffee.com or at www.crackle.com or a couple of other sites. NFI (well, they did pay me to use my car.). Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/chip19474@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 12:51:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133592D02B1 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 12:51:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s36.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s36.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D730B2C0D45 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 12:51:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W3 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s36.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 15 Sep 2012 11:54:29 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [216.137.132.139] From: marty sukey To: Triumph List Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 14:54:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Sep 2012 18:54:29.0854 (UTC) FILETIME=[895A6FE0:01CD9373] Subject: [TR] Conv. Top Window Zipper X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The zipper in the window has decided to become unzipped for about 1/2 inch about halfway across the window in the TR8. I tried gently trying to pull the zipper thingy back through that area to see if I could get it to join back up as I unzipped the window (hopefully that makes sense). No luck. Any suggestions? Thanks, ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 13:16:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52ACA2D02CC for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:16:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.104]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3B62C0B90 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:13:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.194.13.60]) by p3plsmtpa06-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id zXGD1j0031HkWkN01XGDvU; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 12:16:14 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:16:22 -0400 Message-ID: <001901cd9376$988290d0$c987b270$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2Tdo0lNnw+z8C9SKyCn2TIvIdJIg== Content-Language: en-us X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR3 exhaust bracket X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List: Does anyone know where I can source the 2 rubber mounts for the exhaust bracket that straddles the center of the frame? This bracket effectively braces the exhaust and has rubber mounts on either end. I can't find any. Thanks! Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 13:36:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883702D02C6 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:36:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc4-s6.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc4-s6.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D9C2D0299 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:36:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY150-W35 ([65.54.190.199]) by bay0-omc4-s6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 15 Sep 2012 12:39:02 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [98.199.207.209] From: Randy and Valerie DeRuiter To: , Triumph List Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 14:39:01 -0500 In-Reply-To: <001901cd9376$988290d0$c987b270$@uprichard.net> References: <001901cd9376$988290d0$c987b270$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Sep 2012 19:39:02.0058 (UTC) FILETIME=[C21C68A0:01CD9379] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 exhaust bracket X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Andrew- Part was originally 42243, superceded as GEX7329 - same as grommet for a TR4A radiator stay. Roadster factory shows it in their database, Moss has it as part number 680-640. Regards Randy > From: auprichard@uprichard.net > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:16:22 -0400 > Subject: [TR] TR3 exhaust bracket > > List: > > > > Does anyone know where I can source the 2 rubber mounts for the exhaust > bracket that straddles the center of the frame? This bracket effectively > braces the exhaust and has rubber mounts on either end. I can't find any. > Thanks! > > Andrew Uprichard > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/deruiterville@hotmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 13:42:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B7E2D02CC for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:42:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm11.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm11.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 65B132D021A for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:42:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [72.30.22.79] by nm11.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2012 19:45:24 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.119] by tm13.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2012 19:45:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1024.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2012 19:45:24 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 375502.24421.bm@omp1024.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 82587 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2012 19:45:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=g2FBt5XNyc8CYfI6SRB2LXRojAlrLBPk1bKeMJInmaLZ8HxBQNzroHfGIot/ilnqjbHLMZmiUL8KOWZT2of5uYaPv4tSPzmOrjycXZavtTFb5cs9xBlTSJcUYkaiYLDGQYc0Qcq+ybe52QVivhnnQQFtxM7qzZkpOuMy0irlw+w= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1347738324; bh=sx8sYwO3Zvp+/OXYcZYX1oFrQ+VkjUKQszkaZxhMHVs=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=bimasQsCqzPlyXKMJ+sQpePNQe5GGWZhfFPUSlIoR9zA878vLVV4TzzvR3hHRMTTwp9UAKWCqLJadRSacU5PxC/Mc40JsCMs6Az2vc+SJJaFw7+rN8IekVXhq/iDfkeAo76J6g3pkng4vLdPCR5gFcPrTgxrjGyRPkyFs4hSMyk= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: YmGAYR4VM1l88YNakNHaoFeTv1RYu.NpcHJCxseRPd8jpVG AKDsGFQUyaTFRH8smvWWhG_JbrzrD_.ZqTcndKpk5r6fyVl72QKziiFskK2X B2jHAKWSGfibap1frxjB6IyG7eWv9n9uztOHjf1dWqgpt8PV5hxoDVoAvKlR 5AMiBiSFeudEFYvRxK4VlHGo2ht4xEs3UmGlBeq7rzBasWQ6UfuiNvO3ExRm AWLhZ4K3.tK47952.j7Ma6UQh2ITVrsnVSFcHBGpw3kow7OOVgKaVrJItWtM s0UAwLGvP3L91QCSNhSI_5n_dVwzO69hy_FYth_D9qriLdoLf6O6RMldGFba oSWx7N9HbSqQ5h8nXSOkboQ3Dn9L06V5n.C8YTfGDgcJvG2hX9GpFmY5Y2r9 91251BmacuV2.UNuR1bDX8FNOItDjFDAlsxkEYj0JQgV4A94HSToVxjQpRAi qZHaO.PvjenEnMF_EWfDkYbT9PwTmKij19K31bEM15xGJ_Qi55lf7zjoUIC6 OYvAqYI1c57nC3RQt028YkrmplvHJIwQt9pYhdNmVtrbsikGVx8JVRqeSzA- - X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp112.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2012 12:45:24 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" , References: <001901cd9376$988290d0$c987b270$@uprichard.net> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 14:45:19 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <001901cd9376$988290d0$c987b270$@uprichard.net> Thread-Index: Ac2Tdo0lNnw+z8C9SKyCn2TIvIdJIgAA3Viw Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 exhaust bracket X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Looks like p/n 42243, $2.92 at TRF. They also sell the complete bracket if yours is suspect. NFI, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Uprichard Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 2:16 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR3 exhaust bracket List: Does anyone know where I can source the 2 rubber mounts for the exhaust bracket that straddles the center of the frame? This bracket effectively braces the exhaust and has rubber mounts on either end. I can't find any. Thanks! Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 15:51:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DAA52C0D45 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:51:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0262D0212 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:47:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zZqf1j00117dt5G5EZqlDg; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:50:45 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zZrK1j0052ymm843ZZrKYo; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:51:19 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:50:40 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-ID: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <001901cd9376$988290d0$c987b270$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:75.67.82.24] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Subject: [TR] TR3 Door Seals X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dear me. I've received my rubber door seals and clips, including a length of seal covered with red material to match my interior. I do not, however, have a clue how to install. Anyone have an idea where an instructional video or solid prose instructions might be had? Thank you all. Terry Smith, 1959 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 15:53:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7522E2C0D39 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:53:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658E62C0D39 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:52:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.98]) by qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zZi81j00127AodY54Zvz6X; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:55:59 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zZwJ1j00D2ymm843fZwJgZ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:56:18 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:55:56 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-ID: <1683941530.103652.1347746156218.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:75.67.82.24] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Subject: [TR] TR3A Steering Box Rebuild X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net By the way, I do hate to put this in writing, yes, indeed, but...ah, well, you see...uhm...Randall was right. The steering on my '59 TR3A had been sloppy, and for years I'd compensated by compromising between stiffness and play. Randall mentioned that when he did a rebuild of his box, he was amazed at the difference and said "I should have done it sooner." Steering is now much easier and yet no slop in the wheel at all. Moss carries the worm gear for the end of the steering shaft. It's splined and peened over, but an easy installation by my machine shop, or for those of you better than I at that kind of thing. Moss also carries the peg, which was another machine shop installation. Would have waited til winter, but I wound up with the apron off for something else, so took an extra week to get this monkey off my back. Terry Smith, '59 TR3a New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 15:56:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9AAB2D0353 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:56:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900FA2C0D41 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:56:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.74]) by qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zZaJ1j0021c6gX85FZzmEn; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:59:46 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zZyv1j00H2xV5no3jZyvPb; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:58:55 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:59:24 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-ID: <1902654822.103703.1347746364331.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:75.67.82.24] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Subject: [TR] TR3 Rattle X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net One last thing. I'd lived with this annoyance for the past 10 years, since I'd restored the car...a rattle from the front that I just couldn't locate. Recently I started the engine with the hood up and noticed the vibration on the bonnet duzies. I'd thought that cranking down on them to close the bonnet would have dampered any rattle, but apparently not the case. I put a rubber o-ring under the washer beneath the duzie and the rattle has disappeared. The car is actually now purring quietly down the road. I didn't think it was possible. Probably shouldn't be and I'm tempting the Triumph gods.... Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 15:59:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A792D02EC for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:59:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A562C0D41 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:59:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id za0J1j0020Fqzac59a2cQa; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:02:36 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id za2T1j00j2xV5no3Ua2TDz; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:02:27 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:02:32 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-ID: <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:75.67.82.24] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Subject: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net So, I've been noticing that lately the TR3A is overheating. No, not massively, but over a distance of 20 miles, it'll bump over 195 or 200. It does have a new water pump and a good fan belt. Timing is dead on. Performance couldn't be better. What sorts of symptons can a defective thermostat give? Thank you all yet again. Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 16:24:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A000F2D02EC for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:24:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.213]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B05092D029C for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:24:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm25.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2012 22:27:23 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.116] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2012 22:27:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1021.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2012 22:27:23 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 670185.89054.bm@omp1021.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 94012 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2012 22:27:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=s1XJFClIR8QUkz+buHw+HRvVkzsDP3hPlK0ahX6wVk3VCsSJQS3H/M+pSWKYgd/5b9O7frMWy9yHWvJ9Jppiq1uTsrKpHT+nm8ZQ8ck0p+LCPu2F3eMLfy9I28M0yl4yDLjSqpeVw+lOuepo4PoZa2hqaCjmF8eJUewCsimIds4= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1347748043; bh=pQf+kXcsa+bPbFDUQAxV0hMH6xZKJuW4WdDSrQNgb2w=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=uCV41Odo7sG/AB8gqLPsxwJtRxhQ3Brs3PzZpiZMWFjW5JPQ4tPoLRnb/7vkrWwZ4dm2mazAK/2INwwWMkd0M28yuM4q10oXcy9OR2oIYSh2o5l4qNijWlIQ5a1O6jv9SVZBtuoAIUUYVCfZxkaFWuXyCttG22pxjp/VP/j5eb8= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: E6DvLUAVM1nwhMqZM_oiC19rv2MygZGcIR9_OKbxTxMdd45 y8qqv0txZ7WQzLCVlGIvgWLsNHAG7GQ9qk1K73B6tz.CEJKrZbudiSkspcbm teeLtbA8.aVmJq3yGpoibGpXX99XHldbOX1vVNJVYTYae1OCQRjN7Zpu2axO dqI3n3QWjysXNFc60tAT5.fbfcokoopHxJ5zbcUQmq137HC6.ooStOXdgmD5 vuRYH86TXMco9QBdpCj2AWIwqj.TDXY3S3E2SsycZs3PEhrzL4sEoya.v0vg lAACtciDf7TBn95SG4sQTyNhZgYTAyxP2ZyLBykfet7Hrgv8BXLBT3i334xl W6LSiCNxiu0PtAYPfJ7WbhXXKd5e7m8nFmEgesMqKXjDtyGNyGTw_LO_FHi1 lNN_PDKKmTQj78XQx7AecbExFVGPpFNBZMyOPq7hAU52rv.N8h_LBKtAJ_GQ ROCsVQ9fqh3Gcire8vsd6vVGebyan2TN.o0oOpiuU36T6QAJXRg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2012 15:27:23 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: , References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:27:24 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Thread-Index: Ac2Tjd2IAma/jDoGShqf3e5uKKezvgAAsH7g Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Symptom of a defective thermostat is.... Drum roll... Overheating. Good thing is that they are cheap and easy to replace. IF everything else appears to be right, it is good place to start. Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of terryrs@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:03 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] One last question So, I've been noticing that lately the TR3A is overheating. No, not massively, but over a distance of 20 miles, it'll bump over 195 or 200. It does have a new water pump and a good fan belt. Timing is dead on. Performance couldn't be better. What sorts of symptons can a defective thermostat give? Thank you all yet again. Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 16:38:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E9E52D037F for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:38:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 00CC12D02B1 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:33:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.148] by nm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2012 22:36:54 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.121] by tm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2012 22:36:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1026.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2012 22:36:53 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 895594.79188.bm@omp1026.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 33185 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2012 22:36:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=VjjmUkqIKaUOGOV5pkAJ9hC69H2KbI55JucBEIHa5V+uoIZFQKGuKRE9dOIMZUde39yYLhStMEEAdU3Q69BFOE8sYf8DKKDXjbgZrajsysRWTvguiy3LblDX07/UURdNYCaaahBFIo/3N0IZhQql4O64nGiXiSCnIr5O1i5+s1U= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1347748613; bh=ygDRyu9g+dzXl01LJRIxzrQh06+2t5MgHvPF2SDVMaQ=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=aJDsUcdPBkiU/qxbwwv737C4Wybgq2WpauAyEiLbjJK1kQvcCMlNRZQEKkvV5GU1rDpCaYKKUi/COUV6fGUVeHMckkAau0MOMlei2NjrrZbpli4w3r+T2pC1M6LuA6QkC8/wzbDRDEWODJqxdYVcCisIs57l4V0FQ2QIBAtbC3s= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: mpZoUboVM1lg7oQDfW.Dl_WNkrXa107v4pRwc.Y2VqIgErg TfaACzjqA_XuulE7tbHY99.Csdw2UtwOcDbw98oIYvGRaa12dkZy1Ug6EXDs JYgd06sAbIqzph34gEO6nnCdNW0vC2A4Iw.DOzNU_quLTd3Qyk3NWv4yW7nE tIc5XBwbXHl1WQHhNx.9wsoOBDG3HraznTV42Bt3puo_4e2SCw1LKPU.tlX6 RFrH1r6K3gOiALiuxyOTjDYviIJD6kOZT08SOdVJwjwlx9tnKcUHo3lA05Y4 WUZamtpjRPM1r6F1Gn3lxgaRqyiM.JMLPPad3bwQw.dpntS014PHTMP2x3Xf V1_9hy9dpFehTu.7l0w.ACoQB7Awsrgy7r6zb.cxtzldm6dpami_J8mBTY2C eXnURjL.4WWMG9qKYpMM6h4Kpq6zvcsxtR4Dk9Lcyrtc3ZWvuy96eDfdGjlg ckl5TuC1lCgmLxNQY2FjSijLKEtVjCWoFL1dXFTi8VenidwjJFYJg4bkWcNe 8I7Sr7WRW X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2012 22:36:53 +0000 UTC From: "Wbeech" To: , References: <001901cd9376$988290d0$c987b270$@uprichard.net> <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:36:53 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Thread-Index: Ac2TjL9uqZtVIc1jQq2PExYueV3JSgABHxPw Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Door Seals X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The fuzzy seal goes up the side of the "A" pillar and "B" pillar. On the "B" you have that stuff that looks like someone rolled up a brown paper bag real tight and stuck it into that slotted gap, tack your fuzzy strip to that and then the interior panel will cover it. On the "A" pillar I just glued it on that edge then when it got covered with the panel I made sure I caught it with three screws, top, bottom & center. The clips go into those holes along the bottom of the door and along the bottom of the front scuttle, where it meets the door, then it wraps up under the front dash rail capping, about three inches. You clip the clip onto the rubber then push/pull it through the hole. I did mine while the door panel was off and used a pair of 90 degree needle-nosed pliers to grab it and pull it on through the hole and lock into place. Picture available upon request. Hope this helps, Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of terryrs@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 4:51 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR3 Door Seals Dear me. I've received my rubber door seals and clips, including a length of seal covered with red material to match my interior. I do not, however, have a clue how to install. Anyone have an idea where an instructional video or solid prose instructions might be had? Thank you all. Terry Smith, 1959 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 16:39:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA9E2D03D9 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:39:20 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E562D02B1 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:35:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=GAXz5j0BEEwA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=f8fIVck4z7sA:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=tCoxvbWIAAAA:8 a=LKqM5Jb7nLTSpBPNhM8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=9X_zMSMRwuAA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:39925] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 60/4A-28917-D5305505; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:38:21 +0000 Message-ID: <50550363.4070800@adelphia.net> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:38:27 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120827 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: terryrs@comcast.net References: <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Terry, The best thing I ever did for my 3s was to install air deflectors on the sides of the apron to channel all air entering from behind the grill directly to the radiator. I think TRF sells a cardboard replica but I just made my own out of some thick plastic I had around. I just cut accordingly and screwed them to the apron sides with machine screws. I never have overheating unless stuck in bumper to bumper traffic when the outside temp. is > than 85 or so. When driving down the road temp never gets much above 180 even on hot days. Now if you already have installed deflectors and you suspect your thermostat, it is easy to check by removing it and checking it out on top of the stove in a pan of water. Bring up the water to the temperature of the thermostat and you should see the thermostat start to open as the temperature approaches the rating of the thermostat. If it doesn't completely open at the rated temperature, time for a new thermostat. Bob On 09/15/2012 06:02 PM, terryrs@comcast.net wrote: > So, I've been noticing that lately the TR3A is overheating. No, not massively, but over a distance of 20 miles, it'll bump over 195 or 200. It does have a new water pump and a good fan belt. Timing is dead on. Performance couldn't be better. > > What sorts of symptons can a defective thermostat give? > > Thank you all yet again. > > Terry Smith, '59 TR3A > New Hampshire > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr@adelphia.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 16:40:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87922D03AA for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:40:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969002D02BD for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:40:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zZVg1j0060QuhwU53ajQ8u; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:43:24 +0000 Received: from sz0058.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zaix1j00W2xV5no3NaixQh; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:42:57 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:43:24 +0000 (UTC) From: fogbro1@comcast.net To: Wbeech , terryrs@comcast.net, triumphs@autox.team.net Message-ID: <1107665330.2007198.1347749004423.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:76.125.165.36] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - IE7 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, For aB good place to start troubleshooting overheating issues: Go to Moss Motors web site. Click on TR2-4A Click on cooling system Click on radiators "For TR2-4A cooling system information click 'here'." Ed Woods ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 18:25:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F126F2D02C7 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:25:36 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F562D021A for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:22:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so8242054pbb.14 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:25:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LMbszGKLDHuenJyWu6jAG2QOc9bKjcpkoLJ5QAMWDXI=; b=lGofExf2ZhOoFRxfQDz2QeFwOCz0Gl2JetxGcAG3jS0bRP0U83U2+RqRRp9Pwuezoq 1iHN8FLVOpbdQgyB6YCDVYv8s2GZVHsw62yHuxA4Geqvp+uyFLDiDQsYYrlqsJNu5ZYg +COptfo/PGWBHLj8ogniPx5j+dsYNp8PTgzqZlYmiQZTcunOGyYAtkDfUsQ06Mhte409 M9QCrWLpJDGTqOP4MuZ4DheEAziuquC5IWbI7eaWreVU7eU/luuyoaxhvpz1h9WtvvXz qCPXidQYJ1MC4RjmdWQmfKiL6bDocI2rWM/PNGjOM7Rx6toL/L11nPyC39insHNb3iZj KxCw== Received: by 10.66.78.194 with SMTP id d2mr11279036pax.42.1347755111052; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (75-171-58-163.phnx.qwest.net. [75.171.58.163]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id kt2sm3868151pbc.73.2012.09.15.17.25.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:25:07 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/15/12 3:27 PM, Wbeech wrote: > Symptom of a defective thermostat is.... Drum roll... Overheating. Good > thing is that they are cheap and easy to replace. IF everything else > appears to be right, it is good place to start. > Bill > And here I didn't even know that anyone made correct thermostats for the TR engine. I've been hording a collection of new Smiths bellows thermostats for nothing I guess. TeriAnn Counting down to Triumphest 2012. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 19:03:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6382D0212 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 19:03:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222CB2D01C4 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 19:03:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wgbed3 with SMTP id ed3so914351wgb.20 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:06:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=SI4oXSQVMERBx9OMyhvcnpJuCLb8PXKu1itUCr22NnI=; b=hM5F54oPTqrdaPj1j15dJiSEzaEvXdusQE1gfxvs8pGiH7wfzW2v8PtQw2kNw8cDjE Ho8fiYDmtO8sd7tdgJKY5q1eMbl/FmotJR0kHivz6p50sCElZdZ/XBRatn6c6T+LVVGL +KSpqC4wandTFWykJoYUwtgLWvq3H8HeqETIM+A349evxgA2DzwDz91MzWFuDt6ha0py aD3MABW9niZdj5K+oW7zqPTLuy+3srQjMpwTNTXY8gId1jtpAcDfGWNm7SM36botCYJ4 vbOQEiBAtzIEV1sNb96N1qw3nMBkY9s9SJEvmMTE6qHtfzHWooFd8xFQAT630Lh1+QI7 h3+w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.96.3 with SMTP id do3mr7241984wib.5.1347757587858; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.197.149 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.197.149 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:06:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:06:27 -0400 Message-ID: From: Chris Simo To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I just use chevy small block thermostats nowadays. On Sep 15, 2012 8:29 PM, "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" wrote: > On 9/15/12 3:27 PM, Wbeech wrote: > >> Symptom of a defective thermostat is.... Drum roll... Overheating. Good >> thing is that they are cheap and easy to replace. IF everything else >> appears to be right, it is good place to start. >> Bill >> >> And here I didn't even know that anyone made correct thermostats for the > TR engine. I've been hording a collection of new Smiths bellows > thermostats for nothing I guess. > > TeriAnn > > Counting down to Triumphest 2012. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/triumphs/ccsimonsen@**gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 19:30:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A882D01C2 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 19:30:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f173.google.com (mail-wi0-f173.google.com [209.85.212.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716A02D017C for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 19:30:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wibhm6 with SMTP id hm6so953300wib.2 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:33:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DZc5vPVsiAlVsmtGqo/sOX8PuCgSMDcHWm2P4T3dhyE=; b=F/ivVUT661A3Lk1wSUC0jaad+E3hfmckG1GQMTLNqMzrQ43EE8vQQEj9zaO+gL8Fq/ f0LOpj8hyNFedmQZ+DR3T0aM6AKQMNoJU5L6AXHhO2CqtQnus7URr5FuoXiUt4it6W3U ZzBEt6Jx9WOQGMNHPsL1ivAU/Bdsaj/2UZYk17tvFXZfJaxWlGcowk74+De5+dR6YeVv 6zINpaYSYakjHPZ06uIYnCm4dH1K/g+guiZ2oQ3FzG7PWKWqqoLEdtrt2pkLPuDhWwpt JE3e6LDOgAAlFNPPohyrOcXPMAFc6tITas6PJGp3b8sv602JI1wF0/F9p0qLdm1Fcl9C Oxjw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.194.149 with SMTP id m21mr3969262wen.89.1347759196273; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.197.149 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.197.149 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:33:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:33:16 -0400 Message-ID: From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Tr6 pertronix misswire X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Finally digging into the TR6 that I recently purchased. Horrible experience with Just Tires took 3 hours to get tires and i had an appointment! On the way home it had issues. It died about 2 miles from the tire place. It would barely run. And basically runs for 30 seconds and then dies. Probably a fuel problem if I've learned anything on this list. . It's a 1973 and has a ballast resistor and pertronix was connected to the coil verses 12 volts. That might explain why it died when i turned the headlights on. I went back to points and still died after 15 sec. Turns out the fuel regulator is intermittent. Much better now. Also replaced 4 ft of melted red wire in the trunk. Found green-red wire melted, too. Things are finally working! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 23:35:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5D42D01C2 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:35:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE592C0D27 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:31:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=f8fIVck4z7sA:10 a=yFDeG1F4cQ-vm-JXnrEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55005] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 69/79-17657-AE465505; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 05:34:35 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Chris Simo'" References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:35:04 -0700 Message-ID: <007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2Tp5J7Wv+ovxSSTESe0lCpDliWWgAJVatA Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I just use chevy small block thermostats nowadays. Ditto. Even the factory gave up on those aneroid monstrosities. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 23:45:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542932D01BC for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:45:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B0D2D019F for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:44:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=f8fIVck4z7sA:10 a=wWORSEimtu2r55CQcscA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55004] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id B9/7D-28917-90865505; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 05:47:53 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:48:23 -0700 Message-ID: <007901cd93ce$e3148010$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Thread-Index: Ac2Tjdlcnp14WlZJSeqyoO9HalsaaQAP3XTQ Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > What sorts of symptons can a defective thermostat give? Fairly easy test, without disassembling anything: Raise the hood, start the engine from cold. Let it idle until the temp gauge gets near where the Tstat should open. Feel the radiator upper tank and core, it should still be noticeably colder than the thermostat housing. (Be careful when you feel the Tstat housing, it's hot while the radiator isn't.) Continue to let it idle until the upper tank suddenly gets quite hot, same as the Tstat housing. If the temp gauge reading is reasonably close to the Tstat rating, then it is probably working fine. Although not a 100% test, I've never seen a bad thermostat that would pass it. If the temperature creeps up over 20 miles, I tend to doubt that it is the thermostat. If the tstat is stuck closed, it will overheat much quicker than that. FWIW, I've had that exact symptom twice now. Both times, after checking everything else, it turned out to be a bad radiator. Now with the new radiator core and the electric fan, I never see 200F even in 100+ ambient stop and go traffic. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 07:51:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A399A2D01B9 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 07:51:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6AB2C0435 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 07:41:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so8769234pbb.14 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 06:44:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5Rc3l9H2eMHrFq7wsU6v3575SxEyhz0TG/tk0ScCyY8=; b=zFRk/zG0K/RFJ/0QAzq+4N/xD07wa8vN1lvGJCmHjcn9RL/Kk1Q37f/RL7Mp5WCXvE +4gVyAPI47k0kVC89rC+kpI4cfJ4YzcPOJoeC/3e3ah56vArf9tGSRvADa+J1utDzI7n 3e99W1Brk5j/QrlruoEf6D6MYRDZZLb18bKiW6NweJI+TBz0RAsZhdTkWZn3BLKU7gW2 hiMS0VtaSGqCcu8XfDf13dZOpZv5sw2Gag18bYH9uMGAj01Gq3n9Tn50k5ZZsFsrhdyr 5CZWA7Ra1um+e770Cmw89XwzSRRi57rbuWZLtojivI2KHFm3em1mcsA/0ZE7BoPsKquh 2Yzg== Received: by 10.68.202.168 with SMTP id kj8mr2145838pbc.8.1347803049479; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 06:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (75-171-58-163.phnx.qwest.net. [75.171.58.163]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ta8sm5043705pbc.71.2012.09.16.06.44.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Sep 2012 06:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 06:44:06 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> <007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/15/12 10:35 PM, Randall wrote: >> I just use chevy small block thermostats nowadays. > Ditto. Even the factory gave up on those aneroid monstrosities. > > -- Randall > Are you trying to tell me that the factory stopped putting sleeved thermostats in the TR2-4A engine before the TR4A was discontinued??? The TR engine has 2 water paths. One to provide coolant to the head while the thermostat is closed and the engine is below operating temperature. This path bypasses the radiator. The other path is for an engine at operating temperature which channels virtually all the coolant through the radiator. That sleeve on the thermostat acts as a valve switching between the 2 coolant pathways. A thermostat without the sleeve leaves both pathways open when the engine is at operating temperature allowing coolant to take the path of least resistance and bypass the radiator. What good is the radiator if a significant part of the coolant gets circulated through the engine without visiting the radiator? And if you block off the bypass, coolant does not get circulated through the head during warm up causing localized boiling and thermal stress that often results in a cracked head. It is my current understanding that Smiths sold new sleeved thermostats as replacements for at least 10-15 years after the TR3-4A engine was discontinued. The Land Rover four cylinder engine used a sleeve thermostat as well until some time in the mid 1970s. At that time the LR engineers redesigned the thermostat housing to reduce the opening for the bypass restricting the radiator bypass flow. This forced almost all the coolant through the radiator when the thermostat is open but allows a small flow through the head while the thermostat is closed. Are the sleeved thermostats " aneroid monstrosities" because you do not have one? over the past 25+ years I've found that they work just fine and provide a long service life. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 09:00:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB282D027B for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:00:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064662D017C for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:00:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so769115ied.14 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:03:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=k4OCfUX/p7r6WlSiwoK1b2zxA00NOjxXv7/OaUExutE=; b=pgWU9qrte1HiRjeESEyOjVtWEPR3jwSCmY8fbgjz4cABxMcNEGMzi4T14tw6MuYfV/ gkT8oJx9wf+YY6kxi+5/8a4MiQh4qEWIUTygKzKevM6MOoCp6cIRWOV4BjA5ir3XLdmR WEIep1IWG6twV5BF3EpfrOWTJZATMkttow8PvnPWO6g/durYo0KZgXHSAWdKqCKK67F5 72PTksGGrAb86MDC23SIwVCn4YwBZkzPKOYtkiDWrJvXhKyFoxHXuDQVbJ0d2ih76yYo 2wF011qTvnBtN5dAjphQIk5THwG2IehUAmkNqTHOfYVJh+ScDlpt0Rk1uNHJVurlsyKr K5Nw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.40.225 with SMTP id a1mr4356068igl.51.1347807789416; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:03:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> <007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:03:09 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 6:44 AM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > Are you trying to tell me that the factory stopped putting sleeved >> thermostats in the TR2-4A engine before the TR4A was discontinued??? > > That is my understanding. I have seen TR4A thermostat housings with a restriction in place to limit the bypass flow to accomodate a non-sleeved thermostat. I believe what I saw was original to the car in question (even have photos here somewhere) but perhaps a TR4A owner knows for sure. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 09:05:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41002D01EC for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:05:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com (mail-iy0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF022D01AE for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:04:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iagk10 with SMTP id k10so6122618iag.14 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:07:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=JSokxZfBvR47zpxRu01VawgTHlu/WhnnATN3BFlov2w=; b=MMLG4rfsyvkQb7OM2D3eBsG7SNKaaiaQXPJVnnVcJ5QbTefURipk9qPmT3D5bJ8yB6 BUA1v4Fgb2h8pYnrE/ox8WpRRnYrjAipRBdy2BHVtB3tXJzk1iU8pHejlAIepzUOUHuH 7f00nSKeBIspTUHf3muGln1/73W7qTIXHrexOw6vsPEH4gyLNG8tkmbCbapXdxdBXkyy 4ikAaJJvczyHRcqGk6xQ4bjNTbKNRhFirz5nIevwkVEkTcD9lz9hA4BVy3DYLMq+D8zl 5KQVBjR/RclKwone6UlcSK15J7ne6g9UwSMAlFqJW6jzvk7lyWr0fLyn+1CjtH9rrZsb NZKw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.106.147 with SMTP id du19mr6834652icc.56.1347808040232; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:07:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> <007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:07:19 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Photos of a TR4A thermostat housing with what I think is a smaller, restricting outlet... TR4A Thermostat and housing On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Geo Hahn wrote: > On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 6:44 AM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > >> Are you trying to tell me that the factory stopped putting sleeved >>> thermostats in the TR2-4A engine before the TR4A was discontinued??? >> >> > > That is my understanding. I have seen TR4A thermostat housings with a > restriction in place to limit the bypass flow to accomodate a non-sleeved > thermostat. I believe what I saw was original to the car in question (even > have photos here somewhere) but perhaps a TR4A owner knows for sure. > > Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 09:20:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1B12D02D1 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:20:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA192D01B3 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:17:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wgbed3 with SMTP id ed3so1180923wgb.20 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:20:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=L3s3vF7Eo3qcVRJFL8oI06Uy1xRZcDpYmX0pVnYSCkA=; b=mxyaGBJPDf4+9ab7Wv0WAQtBNuXWtogz3m+HQdev9X5pWfXEyczHYaTV8Vt66A3Bs7 Z7hqaY563izawd2eyCF3vKFzBJq7N2fS+tqSBt4ZD1zVaUAACaPPxjzKNPwgq4PgPwEi TtZ+EmpZzRdqr1c+B1tnCylNr7nwXq8gRALoDIIPA7fT4OTsgEehGhav0mm+v6TVMV4W Ao0RCSwkRn8IsSTcf3hLyp/3UWUX82ohFvEI4SSeQOkuIcEqyEPpeGZMVUBX7qKS2YJv X2m0nwFJLPDKO1jx4eZ3bFSNtsRpmwqb8dUbPYZ/Gq1iBL0eCDhsXqDQnpJt8dGOF7Qo lNsw== Received: by 10.216.228.130 with SMTP id f2mr4534572weq.7.1347808853045; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:20:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.197.149 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:20:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> <007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> From: Chris Simo Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:20:32 -0400 Message-ID: To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I put a restrictor in the bypass hose - on My TR4 it's an old 1/4 drive drive socket that fit iinsde the hose just perfectly. On the TR2 it's a Delrin spacer drilled with 1/4 inch hole. I put the last of my smiths thermostats in the TR2 during the rebirth last winter - it was still new in the box - but it over heated and I found it was full of water when I removed it. I had a chevy thermostat and stuck it in and we are doing well. Well....-I ran it without the front apron on in 100 degree weather - it got a bit north of 200 degrees but did not boil over. Apron back in place - much better. As an aside - Without the apron on I can see it was very easy for air to flow around the radiator vs through it. - My new to me TR6 was the same way - The radiator duct was missing and it was getting hot - it works much better with a duct in place. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 10:56:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8602D0219 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:56:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41982D01B9 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:56:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zr2C1j0030vp7WLA3sz85C; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:59:08 +0000 Received: from [10.229.76.16] ([174.241.1.181]) by omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zsyu1j00A3uKGXi8Rsyx7o; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:59:06 +0000 To: "=?utf-8?B?R2VvIEhhaG4=?=" ,"=?utf-8?B?VGVyaUFubiBKLiBXYWtlbWFu?=" From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:59:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?One_last_question?= X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Message-Id: <20120916165617.CE8602D0219@autox.team.net> Sounds like the competition flow restrictor sold through dealers. Used instead of a thermostat. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Geo Hahn" To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" Cc: Subject: [TR] One last question Date: Sun, Sep 16, 2012 10:03 On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 6:44 AM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > Are you trying to tell me that the factory stopped putting sleeved >> thermostats in the TR2-4A engine before the TR4A was discontinued??? > > That is my understanding. I have seen TR4A thermostat housings with a restriction in place to limit the bypass flow to accomodate a non-sleeved thermostat. I believe what I saw was original to the car in question (even have photos here somewhere) but perhaps a TR4A owner knows for sure. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spook01@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 11:08:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C05D2D01B3 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:08:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail.akanomi.com (akanomi.com [96.47.2.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E332C0D2E for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:05:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Spike (c-75-70-29-51.hsd1.co.comcast.net [75.70.29.51]) by mail.akanomi.com with SMTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:08:50 -0600 Message-ID: <9CD698052F2E4920A152BF249F97289C@Spike> From: "Mike Welch" To: References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <007901cd93ce$e3148010$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <007901cd93ce$e3148010$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:08:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I use an infrared thermometer, if the temp gauge says 200 and the IR thermometer says 180, I tend to believe the IR. Last time I did this, was fighting red-lining temp gauge for a month, everything tested OK, replaced radiator, hoses, gauge, voltage regulator, flushed everything, no joy. It was only after using the IR thermometer that I figured out it was the temp sending unit. Mike Welch '62 MkI, 2 '69 MkIII, '79 1500 Colorado Springs, CO, USA -----Original Message----- From: Randall Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:48 PM To: terryrs@comcast.net ; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question > What sorts of symptons can a defective thermostat give? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 11:08:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120542D03BD for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:08:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com (mail-iy0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80AC2C0D2E for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:06:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iagk10 with SMTP id k10so6182108iag.14 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:09:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=a+inaVyVVdbD7AtWpCME15+eOXsOg4BNaWHbppVmKJY=; b=ayE+fxjLteoZES1RNlLKGnasTOU85bTWTSbc2QPKCr6+NJNLNFJP3VttFknZb84E2V tJnzXW6YIsXnq2OKKQ7lmW0gmFPxTYtaGUG3INmPgAioO6XkKFfr0pl5zxGYyBb66k8t d2QKnVqAaz9+JoWaRDP+uLrYQPLeUfIeuznarVEnfKBKnodN12rrDpr52vovVJHRhj3E E0JyyK/GqCh5aGONVrjSJNDx7AHZ+ko/ByIprV5SrOHIeVSs7r4op5tKDDrEWyHhEFkt GaE41DwxymBJSkVHE09zquA0NcWAqgkfW2IAEqPsMbe8+t16UUCpBrhK6q6uQz5nNFNM vKMA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.237.65 with SMTP id va1mr4601198igc.11.1347815346234; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:09:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> <007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:09:06 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Don Hiscock , Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Don Hiscock wrote: > Could you repost the link? No worky.... > Sorry, maybe only I can see that Google image (because it was an attachment sent to me). Here's a different place: TR4A Tstat & Housing Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 11:15:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E352D0353 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:15:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F05A2D01A7 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:15:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8GHI8Mu031266; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:18:08 -0400 Received: from core-dde002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dde002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.53.5]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D703EE00008A; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:18:07 -0400 (EDT) From: McGaheyRx@aol.com Message-ID: <3cac.46d9f120.3d8763cf@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:18:07 -0400 (EDT) To: spitfire@freebacon.net, triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.7 sub 19 X-Originating-IP: [166.248.64.144] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347815888; bh=gTpaQ/Mlt5jzLgnUBempGXf1EVpkq1DKarJImC3yZII=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pX23p7fe6TaMwaSWL84EUWgHDVaH6s/w7Zasr7jmcPAzuL69ynC56GW+vQiTqPVmR X6KEsQ7E9oXyh+3KjCTNf+P03y3HeN2ddsWuLMkdwhQFvVK1yZIHvUOPpSWBefTjTB X9MZVKJVAfXaNjj76WVrUmpf0CsHzRNet3xX8x4Q= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:407256896:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d505609cf32aa X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If you have a known good IR thermometer, that will work, but I have had 2 IR thermometers disagree by more than that. I don't trust the cheap ones anymore. Cheers, Jack Mc In a message dated 9/16/2012 1:11:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, spitfire@freebacon.net writes: I use an infrared thermometer, if the temp gauge says 200 and the IR thermometer says 180, I tend to believe the IR. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 11:28:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE812D0360 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:28:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2932D01AB for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:28:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LKXkseq9 c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=f8fIVck4z7sA:10 a=Sl-8pBi_AAAA:20 a=JhochvcBAAAA:20 a=N5gpxk9YKqd918aRbVEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4gyyTpOK8dkA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 64/73-21812-EEC06505; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:31:27 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><50551C63.8080804@gmail.com><007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:31:58 -0700 Message-ID: <00c201cd9431$2cd61b70$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> Thread-Index: Ac2UEt/hqCVhtS3gQB+iU1Vfvu6zXwAGlHOA Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Are you trying to tell me that the factory stopped putting sleeved > thermostats in the TR2-4A engine before the TR4A was discontinued??? Yes, I am. And the later, non-sleeved thermostat was listed as a factory supercession for the earlier sleeved thermostat. They even changed the illustration for the TR4A parts manual (although IIRC the thermostat change came before that). > What good is the radiator if > a significant part of the coolant gets circulated through the engine > without visiting the radiator? How do you know it is "significant"? All it takes is "enough" through the radiator. Once the radiator tubes are the same temperature as the water, then forcing more water through does not help and may actually reduce cooling. I have experimented several times now, on 3 different TR3/As with various stages of cooling problems, and found absolutely no improvement in cooling from blocking the bypass either partially or totally. Many American cars leave the bypass open all the time, as do the TR6, early Stags and, I believe, early TR7 as well. I don't know about the TR8 offhand, but being a GM design I'll bet it leaves the bypass open as well. Also worth noting that the TR4-4A thermostat housing has a smaller opening for the bypass, providing more restriction. But my experiments were done with a TR3 housing. I do have several NOS Smiths aneroid tstats on the shelf, as well as a TR4A thermostat housing with the smaller passage. Never seen the need to install, so there they sit. My bypass is open, and I have no cooling problems even in 100F+ ambient, prolonged stop and go traffic. (Not too many weeks ago, it took me some 1.5 hours to drive 20 miles in rush hour and the friend I was meeting told me that his dash thermometer said it was 110F.) The cooling system will take the heat much better than the driver can ! Granted, my cooling system is no longer exactly stock; I installed the electric fan while fighting with overheating problems (which were later discovered to caused by a bad radiator), and I added a recovery bottle from a TR4 just because I was tired of worrying about whether I was losing coolant or not. The 10 psi cap was also added while fighting with the bad radiator. But the bypass did not seem to be the limiting factor then, and it still doesn't now. PS, I also didn't see any difference with 3 different designs of water pump. There are some comparison photos at http://goo.gl/5Ockf I'm currently running a 4-vane aftermarket pump similar to the one shown in the photos. (The one shown started to leak about a year after those photos were taken.) -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 11:31:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CAB82C1786 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:31:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8E82C1786 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:31:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LKXkseq9 c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=f8fIVck4z7sA:10 a=r_kigOMABe-Hz3nagGIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=H5OgS04On4iP93-r:21 a=czTEniRHHyCSQGga:21 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 3F/54-21812-8BD06505; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:34:48 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: <3cac.46d9f120.3d8763cf@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:35:19 -0700 Message-ID: <00cf01cd9431$a4ebd640$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <3cac.46d9f120.3d8763cf@aol.com> Thread-Index: Ac2UL09kSvamtWCoTW6QyTmeC61utwAAe5kg Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > If you have a known good IR thermometer, that will work, but > I have had 2 > IR thermometers disagree by more than that. I don't trust the > cheap ones > anymore. All IR thermometers are inherently inaccurate, if you don't know the emissivity of the surface you point them at. (To get an accurate reading, it has to be compensated for emissivity.) And weathered aluminum has an unusually wide range of emissivity. I can see 20F or more change in reading, just by moving the spot by 1/4" or so; which I do not believe is the unit's fault. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 11:39:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC812D0382 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:39:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1D72C1786 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:36:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=f8fIVck4z7sA:10 a=xecN2ocyAAAA:20 a=cj2_5xNsgTTDsZiYLmwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=-ficF8hpP4wA:10 a=ddZT45GQ4RAA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55016] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 21/D1-28917-7BE06505; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:39:04 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Don Hiscock'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><50551C63.8080804@gmail.com><007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:39:35 -0700 Message-ID: <00d001cd9432$3d3d36f0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2ULmW++OuW7js+T66ekWcFXNDStAAA8oZg Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Here is another comparison: http://goo.gl/EPkvm -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 11:46:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFD42D0330 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:46:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D692D01B9 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:46:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ztlY1j0021zF43QAEtpM2g; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:49:21 +0000 Received: from [10.229.76.16] ([174.241.1.181]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ztp91j00B3uKGXi8ktpCpy; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:49:19 +0000 To: "=?utf-8?B?TWlrZSBXZWxjaA==?=" ,triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:49:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?One_last_question?= X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Message-Id: <20120916174628.7DFD42D0330@autox.team.net> I use a low tech cookie thermometer. Reads dead on, costs four dollars. IR. You guys. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Mike Welch" To: Subject: [TR] One last question Date: Sun, Sep 16, 2012 12:08 I use an infrared thermometer, if the temp gauge says 200 and the IR thermometer says 180, I tend to believe the IR. Last time I did this, was fighting red-lining temp gauge for a month, everything tested OK, replaced radiator, hoses, gauge, voltage regulator, flushed everything, no joy. It was only after using the IR thermometer that I figured out it was the temp sending unit. Mike Welch '62 MkI, 2 '69 MkIII, '79 1500 Colorado Springs, CO, USA -----Original Message----- From: Randall Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:48 PM To: terryrs@comcast.net ; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question > What sorts of symptons can a defective thermostat give? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spook01@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 11:58:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389612D01B8 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:58:58 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6232D01A1 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:58:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbon3 with SMTP id n3so4553603lbo.14 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:01:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=WSjtkRnJgXqqPrgQrynyTuIoP0CVfhuv7JY46y2yWIk=; b=D7PopycABqxdxSRfM1xWb2W1OzdfwPK3tvfekV2eq8r2ONG4s4r40IlQBua6cB4x+9 ncVHOXphFsjLe60QPVegyoSyrhQ5vUND+4aNKns0/7v0cU1gGAmtkngd3+yPtETe/xEN kpfkkd0QMOw4FejgQpf3Ie3z1iGOR4gjt2Mj4Cy+Vjgiu/xj4Pf7Y3LckjrXt2FzJVyq 816cH08YpsMcxsH+dSn3iCtV/oqAE3hDr+u2tEFpi9wzPRnUNxY7ft96DnHv9wRI+HmK Du8ztUzYuldOpLGhaMyHxWHC7Tr2T30zsijZDn/9hcCcbXkFJLzxz2e3JC83g+JPPtKc tNQA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.106.15 with SMTP id gq15mr4967653lab.42.1347818508819; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:01:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <00d001cd9432$3d3d36f0$0601a8c0@randall> References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> <007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> <00d001cd9432$3d3d36f0$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:01:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: Don Hiscock To: Randall Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My TR3B had a "different" approach to bypass hose restriction when I got it in 1981 -- a hose clamp on the outside of the bypass hose squeezing it down from outside in. Seemed to work at the time, but probably not the best approach... Here's what it looked like before I took it all apart a couple of years ago. http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-k5Gb3rT/0/XL/i-k5Gb3rT-XL.jpg Don On 9/16/12, Randall wrote: > Here is another comparison: > http://goo.gl/EPkvm > > -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 12:11:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812992D01FA for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:11:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B732C0D05 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:11:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8GIEVcj011050 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:14:31 -0400 Received: from core-moa003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 457F4E000097 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:14:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:14:31 -0400 (EDT) To: Triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [99.46.204.207] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347819271; bh=XOdVUBnGGQR711A8Q6Bb7kAK5b1N/3G6/qIe0BBPG3E=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qtcGj+jilPV7sNiD4acdP6JlorRJw8N5qm5g7r7VH5rihSPy+3nG+V7GiCnFFZUg6 G3Aw5kAN04wca6ilvM6em8X5MGUW4QvRSLY/Kibyg8HLFE0fc4NiuvD/dRinBNOTnv ME2JSVyNqa11PPU/pOLniAjOVbQKMUPJ2CIpztGc= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:460019936:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d50561707008a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Your car looked a little better than that yesterday. A bunch, actually. Dave In a message dated 9/16/2012 1:01:57 PM Central Daylight Time, don.hiscock@gmail.com writes: > Here's what it looked like before I took it all apart a couple of years > ago. > http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-k5Gb3rT/0/XL/i-k5Gb3rT-XL.jpg ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 12:34:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA892D0341 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:34:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5D02C0D18 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:34:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so8998390pbb.14 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:37:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3F0JIYX3RZMkaX/r4wHVszifsZu2/spZNsYSzr0elFo=; b=qFQpPzqcuUAEAVyM5kdaEqu/kWynYOb1ppNXOG50peiPitjkOW34rmFbWNjjt7ciPP SKOVio5LfZJOYHbXlwXNUgkcB1g9qbIO9qcB5emJ3BMfDanTeyEqe8IoJkz7iHd+5Auk 6VMhFLBDMBxbZf4/ATwaaFoPpWT4i7DoaWkKiXODbGQs/nkXFM6HlNs6l/66zYK7QJLh qs388hCZ9//4SWMfjtaTpHfRgOKe9yHb9ptn4BU2RUzvQLUssREIyMZd4z68ypUBOrsz K3Pd2muE4rykz8mzjELpXOoLAbIfjhvhitApvqpAZA/ulcjpU/dz/j0uLOsluL8YyLT0 RbRQ== Received: by 10.66.83.8 with SMTP id m8mr15563428pay.48.1347820634637; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (75-171-58-163.phnx.qwest.net. [75.171.58.163]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id sj5sm5471719pbc.30.2012.09.16.11.37.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50561C57.3010404@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:37:11 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><50551C63.8080804@gmail.com><007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> <00d001cd9432$3d3d36f0$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <00d001cd9432$3d3d36f0$0601a8c0@randall> Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks folks and keep the discussion going. I had hoped that my contribution would get replies going over various ways to get around the lack of a skirted thermostat. Since I have spares I never looked into alternatives. It looks like the factory solved it with the TR4A's or whenever they phased in the parts with restrictions. So what else have people done? Should we expand the discussion to include ways to get more cool coolant to the #4 cylinder? TeriAnn On 9/16/12 10:39 AM, Randall wrote: > Here is another comparison: > http://goo.gl/EPkvm ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 13:06:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022852D01CA for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:06:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FEE2D016A for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:06:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so970780ied.14 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:09:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=nc1SyxOAy4rbc+jvEI5zuPDADgtGD5XnoEP0wh1hB9M=; b=gefyV3aVyQiVqzRR6Fb37T8edBYpY6nIABnUaEAHLeXVggV3LkJk8jR1hO7NXdOz5Y BUxravf1W4UL8ItsfPEl77vGtQtEJ0Kc4NZL6eeBK/3NVYmq1oxIoZjqr3cQsjlA2UqU mFOsfi8J18RfxohE2ILgIROmRqORt2gA8SVWr5UyzqPp0vN9t4Btf8l7f3DaGHZUS2NQ SHHKyDAy6NCoO3mfJY+VB262GWTKVBqw38H73W9ul5hrcvUItn572cQYcHWPpyW/k42v lY2qv4uK7gMOddzeLR2fe8yRT4JfFAQQHmeSjE0bYZgRv3UoSOl63dg03o6lDI591TS+ 1JmQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.57.168 with SMTP id j8mr4783315igq.16.1347822549518; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:09:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <50561C57.3010404@gmail.com> References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> <007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> <00d001cd9432$3d3d36f0$0601a8c0@randall> <50561C57.3010404@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:09:09 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 11:37 AM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > So what else have people done? Should we expand the discussion to include > ways to get more cool coolant to the #4 cylinder? I semi-blocked the bypass with a 3/4" copper cap w/ a 3/16" hole -- no idea if it helps (have no problem with cooling) but doesn't seem to hurt in about 30 years of use. Blocked Bypass As for #4 -- last time I had the head off I rigged up a length of small diameter brass tubing to my ShopVac and performed TR liposuction on the coolant jacket, especially around number 4 where it sucked out what looked for all the world like sand. Like many of you, I've done so many things thru the years to improve cooling I am unsure which help and which are just good luck charms. The net result cools well though (has to in Tucson) so I leave them all in place. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 13:42:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604802D03B8 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:42:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EA62D01EC for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:42:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120916194531.EMWX10966.mta11.charter.net@imp10> for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:45:31 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.136.73]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id zvlX1j00K1bBNls05vlX7D; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:45:31 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=qU9vTENroOq2s6i9/sTxZt9WOCoWX/XGfIT3Tj8F8dQ= c=1 sm=1 a=FB6NmUnAAagA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:17 a=zHkqKJLSS40irOY5YK8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:117 Message-ID: <50562C5D.5090308@charter.net> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:45:33 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <007901cd93ce$e3148010$0601a8c0@randall> <9CD698052F2E4920A152BF249F97289C@Spike> In-Reply-To: <9CD698052F2E4920A152BF249F97289C@Spike> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120916-0, 09/16/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/16/2012 1:08 PM, Mike Welch wrote: > I use an infrared thermometer, if the temp gauge says 200 and the IR > thermometer says 180, I tend to believe the IR. > Last time I did this, was fighting red-lining temp gauge for a month, > everything tested OK, replaced radiator, hoses, gauge, voltage > regulator, flushed everything, no joy. It was only after using the IR > thermometer that I figured out it was the temp sending unit. You can also stick a thermometer in the cold radiator (when the cap is not remotely mounted) and get a good idea by watching it as it warms up.... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 14:43:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12F92D038B for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:43:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8066E2D01C1 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:39:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.65] by nm5.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Sep 2012 20:42:07 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.125] by tm5.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Sep 2012 20:42:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Sep 2012 20:42:07 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 133746.26449.bm@omp1030.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 348 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Sep 2012 20:42:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1347828126; bh=T7EbMUiw+e2Lyc/JjGLbH+LtfBoJR8/lEf0UFIzpB9o=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nbrlSHHG83/y3ftWif0sssoxrqhdABSn0s2el5bM1P0bjKrgawgpEXbJiR2OclCz2xt7ql0b4loylU7W+WdagCvDAUj9vWeIRHs3byF/fj/UlCJo65TuCMoLIH8BgFTe2MIKQxUxC28gTaaV0CHjDO+KRqqIqOe7KDv7sTPbiJk= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YCOiuBLx5ljADkiugwPsVMhw+c0BnrwCjhfYJiyRZDfbDhJdZ0qfLlH/L3Br8wtfUuP7YybXHq9oOXOFJW4NBwB/FypBp8TE9hRjiCMYc7si9IC8wujEJ9PRtKkCqH77NATqZZpAJ8wsIp23tU8FfxaD0tdu9tPshs1WK6UauH0=; X-YMail-OSG: WK9PYngVM1mG_rXD5GmnxhS9lVamAFbLFTLj9Z8z0SJJ8ZP rAZ.9HaQpDtGQBxZKO_oa9mjiErtSvCimtZuFzMeEX54f6eH.psaD.QYVzFG C8vzxaqAuDjTCIjRpO97NxhAaccmVOqNF568rHFrKvDPsNR3g3Olm7gINt.H 2wWlSmJw3F22ktKlioMNLZchLK2wEqJmnCyWvvsSDUCM9wgfoURbxLb4kX5F ShK2SywYOQnYm2z2guGqymnKxGbNTfYZI9_7.AtCwXC1PheaxoKfdSmrcjeG lsRJIfwsUknWIWgzgS4sY0KdF45KNEcaRWZ2mexXgHrZ4bgTFYaKSlhoK6pN 8EyWqAaN6m_w2j2didsCJB.VLumiW4V4m57pPBjwpRJX3zUWtOAa3eIkxKlb EoZzgUKlCWiT7PEM6GnG_wjeOsmMLB7bGq4B_rA4Sfo7wLOrI5du08G_.lAd raLSepYZ4MuCMK07Dh7UnCl7SqAVP5vme Received: from [107.198.185.148] by web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:42:06 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1347828126.70845.YahooMailNeo@web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:42:06 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: William Brewer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am helping a friend with his Morgan. I was looking in the book "Original Morgan". It states "The quadrant gauge has three instruments...". I guess it makes sense. -Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 14:44:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4D92D03D2 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:44:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395192D0219 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:40:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BobPC (ool-44c75d75.dyn.optonline.net [68.199.93.117]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MAG005DWMVZ79D0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:43:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:43:10 -0400 From: Bob In-reply-to: To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-index: Ac2UNeY01WFwojkSRnuZKdf4e3gjqQAFaeLA References: Subject: [TR] Sleeved thermostat X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sleeved thermostat available at Moss. (NFI) http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=47023 Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 15:15:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0F92D02DD for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:15:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CE72D02DD for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:15:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zvWF1j0060mv7h059xJMAs; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 21:18:21 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zxJB1j00T2ymm843XxJBer; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 21:18:11 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 21:18:17 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: Chris Simo Message-ID: <1399273703.125658.1347830297758.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:75.67.82.24] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question NOW Restrictor flow X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Some years ago on the List, advice was to put a 3/4th inch copper plumbing pipe end cap in the hose with a 3/8ths hole in the center. Can't say whether it works or not, since I never did a control study. But I can say that it doesn't "not" work. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Simo" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 11:20:32 AM Subject: Re: [TR] One last question I put a restrictor in the bypass hose - on My TR4 it's an old 1/4 drive drive socket that fit iinsde the hose just perfectly. On the TR2 it's a Delrin spacer drilled with 1/4 inch hole. I put the last of my smiths thermostats in the TR2 during the rebirth last winter - it was still new in the box - but it over heated and I found it was full of water when I removed it. I had a chevy thermostat and stuck it in and we are doing well. Well....-I ran it without the front apron on in 100 degree weather - it got a bit north of 200 degrees but did not boil over. Apron back in place - much better. As an aside - Without the apron on I can see it was very easy for air to flow around the radiator vs through it. - My new to me TR6 was the same way - The radiator duct was missing and it was getting hot - it works much better with a duct in place. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/terryrs@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 16:31:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54DDB2D03D2 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:31:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp2.execulink.net (smtp2.execulink.net [69.63.44.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C822D0341 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:30:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-6114.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([67.158.71.227] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TDNOk-0004LV-9u for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:33:06 -0400 Message-ID: <505653AE.1010600@execulink.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:33:18 -0400 From: Angelo Graham User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR2/3 oil pressure question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello List: Concerned about the oil pressure in my 'fresh' engine in the '2. Right on idle, seems to hold at around 40 - 50 lbs. on a cold engine. When hot and revved, climbs only slightly. I changed the filter head to the later Purolator full flow type. I suspect that the pressure on the filter head needs to be adjusted. Do you do the adjustments with a cold engine or after warm-up? Do you adjust for idle pressure or higher revs and higher pressure? Not sure about the accuracy of the actual gauge. No reason to suspect it and it is the original gauge. Any easy way to check the gauge? Find another one and compare?? Also, should the spring and ball bearing in the filter head under the bolt be replaced to start with a fresh spring and ball? Thanks for any insights. 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[75.171.58.163]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vd4sm5875263pbc.41.2012.09.16.16.35.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50566257.6050409@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:35:51 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumph List , FOT X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR3 for sale - Around $2500-$3000 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I was recently approached by a guy who decided to put his 1957 TR3 up for sale. He has had it for a number of years & decided to rebuild it. According to him the engine & rest of the drive train is done and I think he said the suspension was done. Anyway he went through a divorce, kept the car but lost the garage. The car has been sitting outside under a tarp for a couple of years. Since he can't find a garage for it he has decided to sell it. The body needs cleaning up and painting and it needs an interior. He has a bunch of new parts for the car. The car is located a couple miles South of Flagstaff off # 17. For details, call Jerry at 928-607-5018 TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 21:25:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01BF92D03B4 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 21:25:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5316E2D0200 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 21:25:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=d81yDNd99zUA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=6k7as_74aC4A:10 a=AT-XM5_xW8GWVPbf4PYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 43/42-28917-FD896505; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 03:28:32 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'William Brewer'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <1347828126.70845.YahooMailNeo@web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 20:29:04 -0700 Message-ID: <014901cd9484$96ce5170$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1347828126.70845.YahooMailNeo@web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: Ac2UTGjIOchkExRiQC+UHTLoxNzyGgAOAnug Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I am helping a friend with his Morgan. I was looking in the book > "Original Morgan". It states "The quadrant gauge has three > instruments..." So, what's in the 4th quadrant? Turn indicator? -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 22:25:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FC12D03B2 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 22:25:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE912D01D9 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 22:25:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534FC2E091 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 22:31:15 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <5056A77A.10702@bradakis.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 22:30:50 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 'Triumphs' References: <1347828126.70845.YahooMailNeo@web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <014901cd9484$96ce5170$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <014901cd9484$96ce5170$0601a8c0@randall> Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Oddly enough I was just watching an episode of the old TV show "Rockford Files" The beautiful young woman drove out of the country club parking lot in a Morgan. There wasn't a clear shot of the dash. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 22:45:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DDC62D03C7 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 22:45:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm17.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm17.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DB022D01EF for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 22:45:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.100] by nm17.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 04:47:59 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.64] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 04:47:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 04:47:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 419441.90810.bm@omp1001.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 53372 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Sep 2012 04:47:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1347857278; bh=jqQX0v7gXVW2ikF2M4lJVkxQ8U50Ig76CS4BuHvAeb0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=l57wiJ6Xyz+Ds/iL+0k8kiWYfBxB9VvJtsww09cVX6zR/ntqjci47D/4wzztlTZCH3LDXbLhPb61iaYbkHy8c6PPO4HboiTvGmXT3LhVKqXJSabY61pOxKgPsrH5QzQrgNirieX9L2LAy/eKuk7zakX8f4vdioFUdm41osmbCUM= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VOSEXwLi/5jjrQrbil/Ch6+sYvEOWevKHpfkXSowFX4rkmpFLbyB6tt1UVRXsja5cWnVvGRZi1h4jDwVlK0Q24ae0NDug9oNCbDqAcXXy+BzxjXMAvj/pOgTZS6Mh325LMCTXnbkwZhi5G6PEzVCNuPSZ8gdceQhZuUshZ1vvQk=; X-YMail-OSG: XzfXjswVM1lAe85m9tkFPzJ.h4NyO09FiI6mTFxU8MCh0D4 ZGphCmLl86JuQgRrv8MRUY8qFe2cWnJC9fdOrSFengEiSxjVCBnmFALniW.u vFNkRJt7xulsttlboKNDHFZexrkI_Mc1dlZTddyj8faFMaKqlD3pO6EKP7ul .iAjHcrP4nyVbkDH.FcvbUgxyWtqgiifJjKBw3fonPRO2H8RTm4_smRTSFe3 FskVC8M0ZfE51ErfK0ibQdg867oDBkYX0llOaeDA.MkUjFZYkzy83nbOF.YQ m2aecBhJGqD4aVmAabcSu7Fd4Jg0MxFWF3ZWiaKQ4crn29ewG9uijBD8Wsgr AEqihPrAkKD5Zt3zf.bPNAnEXbgAipXK4sH1D20moxAbs0P9mfmtfipeyeBi lVuxmAn_pM4RzwJPfJmsMVJzV9m9dOp_6hyjWB6bXGB3ZzC4XpAUeoUe.98I vdJhKMoI3qkVIoFDLj8XdqHxn6fxJxOp4Yl_FAM3X3xEazVbyYhmOAaPh Received: from [107.198.185.148] by web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 21:47:58 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <1347828126.70845.YahooMailNeo@web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <014901cd9484$96ce5170$0601a8c0@randall> Message-ID: <1347857278.51498.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 21:47:58 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Randall , 'Triumphs' In-Reply-To: <014901cd9484$96ce5170$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: William Brewer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net There are only 3 gauges in the Morgan quadrant gauge. At one point they must have had four. No turn indicators for 1952. -Bill in Tehachapi ________________________________ From: Randall To: 'William Brewer' ; 'Triumphs' Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 8:29 PM Subject: RE: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge > I am helping a friend with his Morgan. I was looking in the book > "Original Morgan". It states "The quadrant gauge has three > instruments..." So, what's in the 4th quadrant? Turn indicator? -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 05:28:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5422D0424 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:28:57 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 204522D03B8 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:28:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.52] by nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 11:31:48 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.124] by tm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 11:31:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1033.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 11:31:48 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 17596.3455.bm@omp1033.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 38284 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Sep 2012 11:31:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1347881507; bh=Jm+rtRoffpnALmG2s8Qo6jU0kruuHwoqUwFjH9KK8mw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=K8oCGn3LhKq4ZWNQCcmAmUx2fPD3g/z8uljRvDiXsOGb1mcTQ6d8XkjgQ1aZ2o1eq8+8+OQrjsvebQn+1J8tnKHGZbevV2YmmJpgNXNyGFtOFBqvpGdJnvWk51DJNn74ZVvFsK7cWETXvS+5e+muDyaGqXrN2OM9S784JF1sRhs= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dNYS4HwT59Mjb9QjjxB/HiLiIZcJvws34UcEjhZ16n0f1CiZtbeRATy4tmcAILqVfOVr6lAtyyLhxHRJ/K3umJ4Xecf4paOdX4BOoZPnaABmPQtXoRqc7adnvFmbWiqXxly25AxJC1coKV0Wdw+5p5fhEDCjCoxmhjZGODduGyQ=; X-YMail-OSG: 6_TNuwAVM1mRQY_c25A.9B6FDl74mVe4FLI0nwifmnv_8jH al73up3VwERNyQhMVsvWf3hr6bIs4hiku3i4qaygS9b6oJmkAzfbr27r575X 9PRMIfR1Zl9TmT3CdtnSVmG2JBdqs2npMZMFfVU4tzUev77I3OSFvnEvQMTp VbdB_TE.vnSoiONRR4nseIU1A7NKDxgvo9Ufx9tr1ezindyo_4BSA5GjbwpH pw4fnyoZiMSXZLpqaTIAqaQex4xq5Qg_TP3QZsE9FJKYZPgYdpwEo7HwcLdm zLCYcIQILDevZqpbhj4jlySgVr_kGM1ryfP8iwjcZajX28Fx0X1SW56eFkfh cK1NvJO8.Kum9usdv6Cji.quKk6H9u8l3uTe3s5_kGG0YbJr3tNCD5BgOLvT C4Z_GGjsZder6ZGFofRm2DZVkpujX7iCFcuEVFE7JXpHPXqSntmvz8UeG Received: from [90.199.100.1] by web29402.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:31:47 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <1347828126.70845.YahooMailNeo@web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <014901cd9484$96ce5170$0601a8c0@randall> Message-ID: <1347881507.29880.YahooMailNeo@web29402.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:31:47 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: Randall , 'William Brewer' , 'Triumphs' In-Reply-To: <014901cd9484$96ce5170$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I hear from friends who work at Morgan which is very close to my home, that there's been a lot of work over the years by R&D on the development of a 'comfortometer.' Maybe that's what they plan for the fourth quadrant? Jonmac ________________________________ From: Randall To: 'William Brewer' ; 'Triumphs' Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012, 4:29 Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge >> I am helping a friend with his Morgan. I was looking in the book >> "Original Morgan". It states "The quadrant gauge has three >> instruments..." > >So, what's in the 4th quadrant? Turn indicator? > >-- Randall > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 05:44:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14EE2D048C for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:44:22 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981182D03D3 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:44:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8HBkt7Z019465; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:46:55 -0400 Received: from core-moa003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B164BE000092; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:46:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <1a05.2ae718b2.3d8867af@cs.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:46:55 -0400 (EDT) To: mark@bradakis.com, triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347882415; bh=r+2ihMpfAI9nWym/FKvb9rP86noxPQVcyuXM9DuxAKA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=V48F0jE8IAF6WUvii9kkXHLA/g8JIawVU1V7+3rrKcZavIadm5JJnYsfsTJKg8PI/ jUuD8sd8I8A90BKcMmOAWYOGA8/19BFvqUg2uChssVSn5ZxzUpXWILO0wiysz0FLD8 lUuAD8ptoeb2fYyM0qYZ5xko/bVdWCMRTdiqeeHQ= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:347691456:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290850570daf7e64 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net What a coincidence. There were two Morgan's at the St. Louis All British Car Show, a Roadster and a Drophead Coupe. I didn't think to look at the dash. The TR3 was there with no interior but a hood (bonnet) that actually closes now. Dave In a message dated 9/16/2012 11:28:35 PM Central Daylight Time, mark@bradakis.com writes: > Oddly enough I was just watching an episode of the old TV show "Rockford > Files" > The beautiful young woman drove out of the country club parking lot in a > Morgan. > There wasn't a clear shot of the dash. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 05:51:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575C32D01D8 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:51:36 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACF02C0503 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:51:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbon3 with SMTP id n3so5049785lbo.14 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 04:54:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=Gl4LHco+3gRGjlcPEIlL5sVw1t7YXGzPO8vlloTFxxE=; b=IpUUoZlj5NgTAc4SMsSTJJj5ISHNufmC3VrQanDoGka1+vY2/TrLst+mS9t8M5Vj0L GtK/szVmBIA/I2nCV09+Mhg8U1ZVC5yIoJMNn4EJvxYTqBaUrV9jbcs4u9mLrKO5UyLn IHi6U24qw/FIQREiIaYpjZbpIFV/Bq/VvCWtudVzwUWQkDUgBpvFi9Hd6wL5THOQK1HJ aPMHhBTUP5xhsUd98IstUhgEDbuWfvYXcnL3Nk7x8tGxSJ0tlTVi8AELpYrX7aL349eQ 5w5MPvCFxeWu2K+G20KZ/fEeFLaQWggHmAlI551GURNtkt6vP4jIx8FuKALa1b6bjbEL LI8A== Received: by 10.112.24.233 with SMTP id x9mr3243353lbf.76.1347882868883; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 04:54:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 04:54:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1a05.2ae718b2.3d8867af@cs.com> References: <1a05.2ae718b2.3d8867af@cs.com> From: Don Hiscock Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:54:08 -0400 Message-ID: To: Dave1massey@cs.com X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, ask as ye shall receive... Here's a dash shot of that 1963 Morgan +4 Drophead Coupi at the 2012 St Louis All British Car Show. What I'd call a quadrant gauge has four very respectable indicators on it. http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-4JmxZKW/0/XL/i-4JmxZKW-XL.jpg Don On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:46 AM, wrote: > What a coincidence. There were two Morgan's at the St. Louis All British > Car Show, a Roadster and a Drophead Coupe. I didn't think to look at the > dash. > > The TR3 was there with no interior but a hood (bonnet) that actually closes > now. > > Dave > > In a message dated 9/16/2012 11:28:35 PM Central Daylight Time, > mark@bradakis.com writes: > > Oddly enough I was just watching an episode of the old TV show "Rockford > > Files" > > The beautiful young woman drove out of the country club parking lot in a > > Morgan. > > There wasn't a clear shot of the dash. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 06:06:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1022D03B4 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 06:06:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028AA2D020E for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 06:04:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.142]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 49E0B380001CC for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:07:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moa003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D2706E00009C for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:07:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Message-ID: <2001.2a4b8194.3d886c9b@cs.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:07:55 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347883676; bh=vXNQV3SXID44+iJp7NqQs875K4uEEL72i7Mcgz7tTAI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Oiv0LBuo01mFnGAunjuwnh1nuvH8rRFh7xQ7MWpw6Vhv7pRtAzUBBi/cMM2dyEkhs /W3vy9GrH5BOZ4NisVVOVhJ21PcovENZwAuK3+B6goXb1R/eX33XGS1TnGMsLIjPnM uE8KgxbzvJX8YqAqESLJKcSuiowxYaGYR+gUb+bk= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:408311456:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e5057129b50df X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net That reminds me of the "Wonderful Control." The "Wonderful Control" was written into a product spec as a control to allow the user to adjust the level of "Wonderfulness" to his liking. I'm not sure how it works but I think it uses something called the "Placebo Effect." Dave In a message dated 9/17/2012 6:31:57 AM Central Daylight Time, flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk writes: > I hear from friends who work at Morgan which is very close to my home, > that > there's been a lot of work over the years by R&D on the development of a > 'comfortometer.' Maybe that's what they plan for the fourth quadrant? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 06:08:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34ADE2D0411 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 06:08:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84622D0211 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 06:08:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8HCB4IG023043 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:11:04 -0400 Received: from core-moa003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3C0BEE00008A for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:11:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <2106.27a3abfd.3d886d57@cs.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:11:04 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347883864; bh=eqvTq3h4q+E4sxT4WdmjK3CIghR7oCn/m7bkwyvCmPw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hkPGMLHfV4zvtQJwMDFeDPHklimnn5qcwEwZKt+d0nU7qDOv0P/ioHE+VI/GhPlOo udVk8SDlRxrDWtsdaLSO4P8c2AaDNEI8wKeEICKAPxOHmSqyErfywJauPyQ0RFmVbY W+4jHcADRC3aBfylbAiuAxX4ccE9bBGbrefZ806w= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:399206528:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29485057135806d4 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Ah, yes. The Drophead. Wonderful woodwork. Who's forehead is that in the mirror? Dave In a message dated 9/17/2012 6:54:30 AM Central Daylight Time, don.hiscock@gmail.com writes: > Dave, ask as ye shall receive... Here's a dash shot of that 1963 Morgan > +4 Drophead Coupi at the 2012 St Louis All British Car Show. What I'd call > a quadrant gauge has four very respectable indicators on it. > http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-4JmxZKW/0/XL/i-4JmxZKW-XL.jpg ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 06:47:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482C22D0489 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 06:47:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6482D0211 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 06:47:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbon3 with SMTP id n3so5098200lbo.14 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:50:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ilVvXskTauI2uSgWCq2v1xDhm4/VNcVLWGdYNkiuuxQ=; b=X66oe6PfcVDsgVxR7nCbDebzwEK8IfvdWtM0fhsbB80DyMSTlrTenOTZLLWj55PPWU gLgejIT7rvpw3p0R/rBVbZE9j2xeMj3j0+7yd+xlV3abzyk15Z5LfhLmqC6VZyosH79g I/fgbEd72qvR7peoziNuJAzyeGvFh9qmvf3InIw4P7gqdkBz7+utPRcM7IAlnnaams9L L8zNtkurt4LGz/8KGN9pYf4wE62SRTED2/mVFYaHFUXbM99TSrgsFx2crBKvpsTM1cnU pj8IBaCyHG9misG3SMrEKRI7sx9UgvnGDPy7Q07NMR4nk8YqUCbbwN1L1lpsXKesFFOz CrHA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.109.212 with SMTP id hu20mr9800735lab.3.1347886211040; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:50:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2106.27a3abfd.3d886d57@cs.com> References: <2106.27a3abfd.3d886d57@cs.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:50:10 -0400 Message-ID: From: Don Hiscock To: "Dave1massey@cs.com" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dunno who got caught in the mirror on the Moggie shot -- not me for sure. It was busy enough at the St Louis show to have a tough time snapping cars without people in the frame. Don On Monday, September 17, 2012, wrote: > Ah, yes. The Drophead. Wonderful woodwork. Who's forehead is that in the > mirror? > > Dave > > In a message dated 9/17/2012 6:54:30 AM Central Daylight Time, > don.hiscock@gmail.com writes: > > Dave, ask as ye shall receive... Here's a dash shot of that 1963 Morgan > > +4 Drophead Coupi at the 2012 St Louis All British Car Show. What I'd > call > > a quadrant gauge has four very respectable indicators on it. > > http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-4JmxZKW/0/XL/i-4JmxZKW-XL.jpg > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 07:16:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206452D04BF for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:16:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C0162D0438 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:16:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.234] by nm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 13:19:07 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.250] by tm15.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 13:19:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 13:19:07 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 857913.46361.bm@omp1015.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 47145 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Sep 2012 13:19:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1347887947; bh=UeGRse6KzeA3Mq6pQkRtVsXYNfoHXyTselXP7adX6pU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZY9TNKxcb7KeuUCpuFzKDRDq/Fi414emhquPuO63jqSkd9R8m0gfog7xrKCAXu1dhoHXtvCuKlPoirmHe1j2thyyT8MNesj8a52GsbN58XJCmPAp9TI2kVWB7Y5EZqCPGm9FbLLS0u1ZMoORfqCQvCaorxeG/d41gXYMwshPgOs= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TIjrYrxWBDRI13Fn6aa5PaQdAMgS4cMmR0gz6C1gK0IXlKt9UPiSkgQH4Q6lUVCd8hhYpfEDKS68IS8AdPqHHvp89NOFdBloeRqEyGLh92p/kztSf7urWFiZctwx8kQWWx5r+9tOQn4BCWDOG4e9yQzb+hKg7zwTjRGeJKB68Hw=; X-YMail-OSG: LTdj8u8VM1noPtlCl.AXvu.uonvtd1D9TEXJHuzYXTU9uIs 1SlSRdZzVWOQ6cR_YlS_ckBNFL7LJwQN2t22tMjc2y4gG20gdnXrQiKbi0nW XL9nzTXiJbaTfZKArHp8.d3FF7PEkUwqX8UCQh.wMALglRmVgyLi8gD1IE8G WcFPXj3xw0021_UKS05dMmFnt5zWlsMWdtZlIxFbX4xwxvcV9c1DZ2HFdXC9 nHuKy2.kvJe3T4DcrbAG52Z.02eT1M7PigRfR6CUszuKHP1cVW2uZMfiOXmt sulomGuDaNGQ_.Dig_3H2r5dL89OZBiV7R4r.CRGlNyv1R1TpxbaKDyA_Oc5 MVoamvPY3_QSnmAHaK.6pjf0ZJmqBDrRvjicSL5fTkegxb4cdHT0_EJdGTjB s39a7qqZkN6GfCdHWFAuKci3QX.VGER5EerSJjuQJHAvskksb_RbFxK2SsKE Frr5GdCGTLmIrwsQCMff5F0Gr9fLwDwJIM6seJgXTZUyu0t8BH8gIsqIusQR pIFealyoDcEeu4znGvk9fs6z85mdUGLMrJt.BK4QE Received: from [90.199.100.1] by web29403.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:19:07 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <2106.27a3abfd.3d886d57@cs.com> Message-ID: <1347887947.90014.YahooMailNeo@web29403.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:19:07 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: Don Hiscock , "Dave1massey@cs.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net "Oh, are you taking a photograph?" "No, you stupid idiot. I'm standing here, camera in hand to record The Second Coming." That's what I heard at a recent UK show. Immediately wrote it in my little black book of insults for future reference. Jonmac ________________________________ From: Don Hiscock To: "Dave1massey@cs.com" Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012, 13:50 Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge >Dunno who got caught in the mirror on the Moggie shot -- not me for sure. >It was busy enough at the St Louis show to have a tough time snapping cars >without people in the frame. > >Don > >On Monday, September 17, 2012, wrote: > >> Ah, yes. The Drophead. Wonderful woodwork. Who's forehead is that in the >> mirror? >> >> Dave >> >> In a message dated 9/17/2012 6:54:30 AM Central Daylight Time, >> don.hiscock@gmail.com writes: >> > Dave, ask as ye shall receive... Here's a dash shot of that 1963 Morgan >> > +4 Drophead Coupi at the 2012 St Louis All British Car Show. What I'd >> call >> > a quadrant gauge has four very respectable indicators on it. >> > http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-4JmxZKW/0/XL/i-4JmxZKW-XL.jpg >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 08:00:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FACB2D048B for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:00:09 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm34-vm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm34-vm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DE9E2D045F for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:00:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm34.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 14:03:01 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.116] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 14:03:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1021.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 14:03:01 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 138685.33535.bm@omp1021.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 28684 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2012 14:03:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=42L0cNT9p5becLPeFjH9TsS0uq/z/XODOpfEXlbF0svaHaQrvxZMnK3wJ3Pc6VLT6rhYf0jwhpAJJEdyz7Xo+UX463/UG+xdaOydqTH3bFyqVzqSwIVv4iHz6NvZsDS2arH7shnV+29L+y8C+1HbkHMOO+Oh3xxON4YS2XHS9Ns= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1347890580; bh=2xzVTantqd8nsiISbqymgadhKwawRwCwL2QsmO7LoyY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=zfVsMZGOUYzqhVFxxxB9fvej6dzxTQLHF+vi+OAZjAtlYrbZz76bFZHRV7IwhqzFwtZmf2oQ+lolteCOrZMcJ1H2m+0gLmxGpg+K0fer1mzGB0ehJr9QfHlgJambR+GHo18yRl922tMNfJEa5f/Pi8j1SJHQPWhZu7JGWiat8ew= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: I8ZP6oAVM1nJCRr2yYFDRMH4R5ZFFDev5ScQVU87Ijlie80 .5T5cSlgbOrib7J7upBcmUz2Trdyz8dhMpaXoA9Ol3bryQzIVW0lcrm4COlL TaElzN0ViarhR3yP6xpxdNO6EHEGQ6s.ssj1DT9aAuh6s8as2veFk3aVIyzj CobGI9_2n.zHYqy9eX3I.ySWhFBEB.nYVKgK9EGgTl42NfzqG.6mPwwFwLwG BPQmfwK.M8R50MM44Ou6mf21GolYN2Nj6KdUtU1ldUUPoYX2aODuNZPcD7.8 zgwQEHWYWlyj2g.mH.ZDHpl40P._WPlm2Y_i_3MOH5xPVDWy0ihtKO1Cgm44 92l_IJHgXi1v6owl1cwXUlLhGFohAkFqljXdiSHhhP9bT_OfAfBKP9K9VEvm hco59.2e_2V2ICAFXqKnf1BZCqxjRR15o2nhSvnZSOiYDbjzktFZqG2e7LS0 nAKsc9ABSrdRFGUHr2fieGvrWfzhp3JKF.OpE8TNcK71AAS2KJDY- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2012 14:03:00 +0000 UTC From: "Wbeech" To: , "'Chris Simo'" References: <1399273703.125658.1347830297758.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:02:57 -0500 Message-ID: <07FC6A0A08674C21BE08CBCA991F751E@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1399273703.125658.1347830297758.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Thread-Index: Ac2UUN2dkZ0tR2+wRCGKAZk+/4BAngAi3WNg Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question NOW Restrictor flow X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Reading with interest all this about restricting the bypass hose. What was the purpose of this bypass and why didn't it work? Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of terryrs@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 4:18 PM To: Chris Simo Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question NOW Restrictor flow Some years ago on the List, advice was to put a 3/4th inch copper plumbing pipe end cap in the hose with a 3/8ths hole in the center. Can't say whether it works or not, since I never did a control study. But I can say that it doesn't "not" work. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Simo" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 11:20:32 AM Subject: Re: [TR] One last question I put a restrictor in the bypass hose - on My TR4 it's an old 1/4 drive drive socket that fit iinsde the hose just perfectly. On the TR2 it's a Delrin spacer drilled with 1/4 inch hole. I put the last of my smiths thermostats in the TR2 during the rebirth last winter - it was still new in the box - but it over heated and I found it was full of water when I removed it. I had a chevy thermostat and stuck it in and we are doing well. Well....-I ran it without the front apron on in 100 degree weather - it got a bit north of 200 degrees but did not boil over. Apron back in place - much better. As an aside - Without the apron on I can see it was very easy for air to flow around the radiator vs through it. - My new to me TR6 was the same way - The radiator duct was missing and it was getting hot - it works much better with a duct in place. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/terryrs@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 08:10:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D38B2D04AB for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:10:58 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail07.truedefense.com (mail07.truedefense.com [216.69.224.217]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954C42D0202 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:08:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail05.truedefense.com (unknown [172.16.9.36]) by mail07.truedefense.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51BAC0356; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ex1hts01.onthenetoffice.com ([172.16.8.31]) by mail05.truedefense.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q8HEB28w004705; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:11:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from JPayne@ThorCon.net) Received: from EX1MBX01.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::f9f4:b916:4b54:5534]) by ex1hts01.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::dcca:855d:bb32:dc3f%12]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:11:01 -0700 From: Jonas Payne To: "'Randall'" , "'William Brewer'" , "'Triumphs'" Thread-Topic: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge Thread-Index: AQHNlExk7hIfinUp00WbzAvm0ZgTfZeOVewAgAA99bA= Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:11:00 +0000 Message-ID: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C45C4DE57@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> References: <1347828126.70845.YahooMailNeo@web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <014901cd9484$96ce5170$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <014901cd9484$96ce5170$0601a8c0@randall> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [172.16.12.69] x-pp-proceessed: f14c9345-0aa7-4395-be7e-1fa366b271af MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Oil pres, water temp, fuel level and Amperage Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Randall Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 8:29 PM To: 'William Brewer'; 'Triumphs' Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge > I am helping a friend with his Morgan. I was looking in the book > "Original Morgan". It states "The quadrant gauge has three > instruments..." So, what's in the 4th quadrant? Turn indicator? -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jpayne@thorcon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 09:12:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4A42D04B0 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:12:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9092D0475 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:09:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so2367075ied.14 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:12:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XM7RW/U/Tva2pL7DC/Mo5DBQVnDd6mUr6HdEYBlznYg=; b=lSNJR1tmX9pWtJweutK/i/tKtuj6YnJHVRkGffL+d2fIy977xGV5jkmd4gaT06mB25 a9ejSIvAv0D5v6SSLfmDjF2YVqS36pQsMvEv+wKu/WiDo4WLIX10iyAID0S1hZt4+8Y4 CPo+rWZpI3rFnKzNGBNq0DvN2Ij4VDKraoSuHaEcXxsPDC+2ctT7Kfiy9jWfBfzExg5f GUAo5/efRnv6hODce6IresTa17GAorX0Yt5i9dd9gfTF+a0Q4f4V4wwZvKBJCmSuNPaX kGoSVGYBP5pABwuGDCqULeTAM8WOIcwvZEaCVeDr4GxH0jOtcfoP0WFCwjVu+Ih+WBUF M4kA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.182.136 with SMTP id ee8mr7256524igc.51.1347894772233; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:12:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <07FC6A0A08674C21BE08CBCA991F751E@bboffice> References: <1399273703.125658.1347830297758.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <07FC6A0A08674C21BE08CBCA991F751E@bboffice> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:12:52 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Wbeech X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question NOW Restrictor flow X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Wbeech wrote: > Reading with interest all this about restricting the bypass hose. What was > the purpose of this bypass and why didn't it work? > The bypass works just fine. The idea (as I understand it) was to help the engine warm-up quickly coolant was circulated through the head via that bypass hose rather than simply sitting there waiting for the thermstat to open. Apart from the benefits to the engine of warming up sooner, it also delivered cabin heat sooner if the heater valve was open. When the original style thermostat at last opened the skirt in its design would slip in front of the opening in the tstat housing that fed the hose, effectively blocking that flow (no longer needed). When using a 'modern' thermostat (no such skirt) some choose to partially block that hose so it does not continue to allow some coolant to bypass the radiator... the feeling being that returning hot coolant directly to the head rather than sending (almost) all coolant thru the radiator would reduce cooling overall. Clearly there is not total agreement on whether this is necessary or even wise. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 10:46:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88DAD2D04CA for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 10:46:42 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181C12D01AB for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 10:46:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=wvpf_oM_ZtIA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=RVeJS_P7VZsA:10 a=AsLsVSYTp6hNuYuHhRYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55004] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 50/35-28917-C9457505; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:49:33 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Wbeech'" References: <1399273703.125658.1347830297758.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <07FC6A0A08674C21BE08CBCA991F751E@bboffice> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:50:05 -0700 Message-ID: <01c101cd94f4$7daa0d40$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <07FC6A0A08674C21BE08CBCA991F751E@bboffice> Thread-Index: Ac2UUN2dkZ0tR2+wRCGKAZk+/4BAngAi3WNgAAWqbSA= Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question NOW Restrictor flow X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Reading with interest all this about restricting the bypass > hose. What was > the purpose of this bypass and why didn't it work? Just to amplify a bit on what Geo already said, the bypass is quite important and I do not recommend that anyone run with it totally blocked; unless you make other provisions for allowing coolant to move through the cylinder head while the thermostat is closed. Cast iron is surprisingly brittle and does not like sudden temperature changes. With the thermostat closed and the bypass blocked, the part of the head near the combustion chamber and valves will get heated to nearly boiling before the water at the thermostat gets hot enough for the tstat to open. Then when it starts to open, it gets the extremely hot water from the head and snaps full open, allowing the essentially room temperature water in the bottom of the radiator to be forced into the block and head, suddenly cooling the head. The result can be a cracked head. While experimenting with blocking the bypass (so I could assess the difference in cooling), I also drilled a hole through the thermostat so it could not fully block the flow, thereby avoiding the above scenario. The result is slower warm up, but that is not a significant issue where I live (and I don't even have a heater). -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 12:48:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B652D0501 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:48:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17972D04DD for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:43:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so2713437ied.14 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:46:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=I/Z0ck0g6aL9YY27DPgi3FjchB0Xo5ooJZjDFPkU+YQ=; b=DFcL/Y9lW4Yob2VDnRZWhzRzAJOQ5h4uPBvL2OGtAFMa2naAKtXX4Y+Wi6NYg428iO 4tqqa3mLSJy8FGJIPz4u9PK5nffwMP1zRDYYGzId3ktiYnGR0kMIdF8MW6wjU25aXDbz U7hVWcX0LTnRAZcxP6N7Or+M1fW8WcLZVQMF7GkK4C2+mDLcmNpV1423sldEZkIDjQ6n Ul6Oek1dIBJIJ1CWg03SRhRXdfn5Vr5W7BV/pudJh3ZMNzMbZZU5sbbmsDdmD7tWLSA1 ecwWSdzDVOP1gBML5sAYO7AGnnoHl1Qb1JRODkeR/JnQRezPNZUhZbreyQS3EKpo7cQq UnXA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.41.164 with SMTP id g4mr7763518igl.71.1347907577044; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.195.162 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:46:17 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jim Wallace To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Turn signal/emerg flashers X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am wiring my 3a with a Dan Masters kit, and have included switches for the electric radiator fan and emergency flashers. Is it possible to use the same turn signal indicator on the dash for the emergency flasher indicator? i.e. can I connect the two "P" terminals of the flashers together? I don't know what goes on inside those things. See schematic here: www.advanceautowire.com/tr2od.pdf Thanks, Jim ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 14:40:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBAF2D05CA for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:40:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702FB2D05C6 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:39:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LKXkseq9 c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=zuEL1irJDNcA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=SAhlPHHZW9EA:10 a=Gkl1tT--o50fGU63KEoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 39/32-21812-25B87505; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:42:59 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Jim Wallace'" , References: Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:43:31 -0700 Message-ID: <022901cd9515$19d0f970$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2VBXjwOU1Ik5OqQPqFs4F5OOnoyQADbopA Subject: Re: [TR] Turn signal/emerg flashers X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Is it possible to use the same turn signal indicator on the > dash for the > emergency flasher indicator? i.e. can I connect the two "P" > terminals of > the flashers together? An interesting question. I have not tried it, but I don't see any reason it shouldn't work well enough. At least with the flashers I have examined, "P" is open circuit unless the flasher is in the middle of a flash. In other words, inside is a double throw relay with the turn signals connected to the normally closed contact and the dash lamp connected to the normally open contact. When the relay pulls in, it breaks the circuit to the turn signals and completes the circuit to the dash lamp. The only potential oddity is that you might be able to find a condition where constant power gets fed back into the ignition circuit; by doing something like turning on the hazard flashers while the turn signals are running. And even then I think the effect would be momentary, the turn flasher will stop flashing when it's load is removed (by the hazard switch). But I would be tempted (as long as you're rewiring everything anyway), to use a pair of diodes instead. That way you could use 2-terminal flashers. The diodes would need to connect from the two outputs of the hazard switch (GR & GW) to the dash lamp; with the diode polarity to suit your battery polarity so each diode will only pass current when the GR/GW wire is hot. Not all 3-terminal flashers work the way I outlined above, but they won't work properly anyway. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 15:59:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49112D061E for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:59:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm39-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm39-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 278422D061C for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:59:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.180] by nm39.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 22:02:17 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.199] by tm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 22:02:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1057.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 22:02:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 745826.88841.bm@omp1057.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 65552 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Sep 2012 22:02:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1347919337; bh=97aKNJBx5hWwAUcljpl+XTf2cThy4WnLAx0DtBeo9go=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QgoJxUifXpV1wGSSzTvu1qdXAsWbjQ8WYVmYFfjKR5SzPLgqc4tMLp1NwKea1T7vitUmi7SKbnFYZFPa9G265E0SZ/2QXlcs6EXpGllvOwVLGQeJWrMB4eYVKWHz+I6kS0PXWuKVfavg+J7IwYgZ2j0VwskLXPay8NVRmsamEos= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wgLxsfPhtsgAU6O4L5Bk1kzpZbUj+GHvUJh4ffR9VvC1SSex0/hNaKb4KjPM9XyuYCpto3B7kxop8cvQ6JwGpnMUBDvHkSILhWDzyxlJ4yeYgy6btmloUZPxg12WaA5mdEnUDBeNojo4PbHkxTllLq5mazVQTCOTDlj1hbW0mo8=; X-YMail-OSG: ywqjMBIVM1nNVyIloBDxKPN5DLe8Qf1Iwh4iQylH2Ey2FaH dPvJbadWe Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:02:17 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <022901cd9515$19d0f970$0601a8c0@randall> Message-ID: <1347919337.28478.YahooMailNeo@web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:02:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Randall , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: <022901cd9515$19d0f970$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] lift the dot fastner tr3 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net looking at the moss catalogs it would appear that i require multiple different lift the dot fasteners for use on the tonneau of TS 41366? really? thanks Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 16:22:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF622D0622 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:22:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81A92D0620 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:20:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so3084293ied.14 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:23:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=AH2q2qe9dRn36H3yb9hRySZpcGl9PRBdfGuoni6tVtY=; b=KbEUyCcafDNnU22VWgGu5VFtrHQl6MpVNvhS2zA40oZADVQXM0x1sKdDO/fi2897Hu +2h1/9qK3lFwRSt+SqD1FpJ0jIR0ERDsPXAdS9CMN2txfrj7b1KnN63MZ7QlM5kY2/lG kivXA64zLk+TaBBf4DNM8gR89NH31alVXMKIbvWiezaEZbtQey3E3L+vC9yl9m9mye1K uQAs+tk2vMO5f0rfkak0KH3wnCRYGGibV9DmlALIEn+78kJJMse/IP8XyFcSzqVy36xz 1cda01wGfYn1ISeXyyimZY31H784+aQQOTrD09/AAxXLwI9Jgb5hI/cIdMJgx/0KRj7q vV9w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.7.132 with SMTP id oo4mr10230922icb.6.1347920582299; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:23:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1347919337.28478.YahooMailNeo@web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <022901cd9515$19d0f970$0601a8c0@randall> <1347919337.28478.YahooMailNeo@web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:23:02 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Frank Fisher X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] lift the dot fastner tr3 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On mine they are all the same female fastener -- the pegs however are needed in both machine thread (with nut) and sheet metal screw. Geo On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Frank Fisher wrote: > looking at the moss catalogs it would appear that i require multiple > different lift the dot fasteners for use on the tonneau of TS 41366? > really? > thanks > Frank > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 16:30:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C202D0626 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:30:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm28-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.158]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8EC2C2D0620 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:29:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.57] by nm28.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 22:32:42 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.11] by tm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 22:32:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1011.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 22:32:42 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 264892.46197.bm@omp1011.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 37489 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Sep 2012 22:32:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1347921162; bh=37eDj13yKOcZVydFrTDNEkKmga/SdUL850BRSiAYEw0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xa31Yd/TsF1mt7Qv3226lkivo6u86pHETn7mydMIFT1mr2DEJO9OchzRtjTx+hHwPpzZWiz7b4SfufcPE8hYhb+r9w8cVIUbI/KevhliugAkpqRoIku4pZfOrGgJUXi8yQcz+Hq1yB/5IFH1SY3XR1z3700zd+jNb2fx3Aw3UyQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=igpLT6aB9mf5OnJ8xHKlLJLOhwmzA02xKWrQzLyBLGDvntpEdsXzdPIxkwBwTDxTCPsWqa0f3VVhF1BwI/Pi2bWGIulyueuTyyJi1OWHWlscaKt4iIi/fOeP9kR+IKDmjThrCkqFBz62/i8hTP95Eo9F9maZ6pJf2qL53f+TBeQ=; X-YMail-OSG: HqdWqxsVM1nsCkJOCFqKCCv9bPfRgnaNoh8c_rWNvUkmjzR YOZO1rx.L Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:32:41 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <022901cd9515$19d0f970$0601a8c0@randall> <1347919337.28478.YahooMailNeo@web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1347921161.33588.YahooMailNeo@web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:32:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Geo Hahn In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] lift the dot fastner tr3 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net i have all the studs in place. but i just had a doh! moment. moss shows the clips with different key numbers. if one follows and pays attention one finds they all have the same part number. thanks From: Geo Hahn To: Frank Fisher Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [TR] lift the dot fastner tr3 On mine they are all the same female fastener -- the pegs however are needed in both machine thread (with nut) and sheet metal screw. Geo On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Frank Fisher wrote: looking at the moss catalogs it would appear that i require multiple different lift the dot fasteners for use on the tonneau of TS 41366? >really? >thanks >Frank > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 18:55:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C512D05FF for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:55:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAED82D04EA for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:52:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120918005517.FOFT24708.mta31.charter.net@imp11> for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:55:17 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.136.73]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id 0QvH1k00Q1bBNls05QvHTX; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:55:17 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Mv9Cy8NsQItTEAHnXr6fCNbI23lcrkmyMeqLv9HU3yU= c=1 sm=1 a=FB6NmUnAAagA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:17 a=Hdhy2hy85alXCNEClukA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:117 Message-ID: <5057C678.2040107@charter.net> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:55:20 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: *Triumphs List X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120917-1, 09/17/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [TR] Transmission Fastener Esoterica X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, I'm finally able to put my transmission back in the car (1975 TR-6) after several months of resealing and too hot to drive it anyway. There are two 1/2" bolts that fasten the transmission end housing to the mounting bracket. The RH bolt, which is 1/4" longer than the LH, also holds the "steady bracket" for the gearshift extension, and has a spacer on it. This bolt also calls for a jam nut instead of a regular bolt. When I took all this apart, I don't recall seeing a spacer, and it's not in my bolt bag. This had been out at least once or twice before, so it may have got lost. I can't find any dimensions for the spacer. So, two questions: 1. How thick should it be? It's easy for me to make one, if I know what size. 2. How important is it, anyway? There must be some clearance issues, since the jam nut is in there too, but I don't want to wait until it's back in the car to find out I need to fiddle and fettle to make it fit right. TIA, Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 18 16:03:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8656D2D069E for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:03:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 131262D0684 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:03:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2012 22:06:11 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.167] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2012 22:06:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1068.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2012 22:06:11 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 107400.10304.bm@omp1068.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 41501 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Sep 2012 22:06:11 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348005971; bh=oo2LDj5VlPSm3QDvoMh0KIPBYPA7G+D+d0HQgBcIOTs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fhrv9E4Os8LDyodKNjx0RP9UuHTuIOrcchZBQ5cpiLjrHqAXzLzVFZ+9f0LKk188VknujI+268zZ9YdUanVDB4Ljh7Tq2ABrGGcpsywGudSGS/Eg+5mNpzwrkkd8OV6Kkm32WkUq5vYnxcwGyVi4tOeF58nOJq64h0CbC24/P1s= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gjS85TJ+9O77aM+idz5+3EIqlS1pQq5oYFBd0l9q96SAOweW6aw4BndEWFxkSQPPEEtKjmgNlrBX5Ndl/OXFEZiQtepT35GB4nVULktMrKcuyAT+kkrK3ieGmA3ICvB410F9BOdmu9BA25iPgx8RumeG0FHH9IcC01yThs6XIfM=; X-YMail-OSG: LyJZGgsVM1lzhcrad.J1F0VzyXO36qm0cGPNh32qGQVc79r 6zWLTKHf3bAN39wS6LBJxmaAsKXtPTVBUJ40OrGj9WUGGXjaNfhjJzS6dTq7 kjCa1SrnLIWXGZD7lThfwXLTjjD6sSIPbOsreA_cxP5GtBkAE9p1sCoLzxs0 7cLhZ7pOISCnmmi5t06OSq7NgREg7rK2J6q5hEdEByiR3XYH8Wk5ud4JgNkT ueivTByDJpfvb4QAQQpeq1ErUqiFzuHwPosVSPWJT1aP9Ft3SMEyM6y9abz3 QWcpv7iOo0KbjZ47YCvHmweEKWpr609xzuyuGSepEkqGGkERMnXErGv02X2g mETXrM7evJQEzDXEIxcbnNRZ.1SEK.Fp5x8lqBxE4hl8HA81_d_eGZYV.G_X xllQ87YjZYbYfLPEO9XN9cGWl5Pu8xeEAjl9GcAVQFpP3C_b8OTP0tjQi8qq Dbeyr84z49t3.0lq05qoz Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:06:10 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1348005970.19696.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:06:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] oil leak X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Nafziger List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Recently overhauled tr-3 engine I'm just breaking in has an oil leak which just keeps dripping even while sitting still and I think it's simply the oil pan drain plug. (always a drip on it with puddle on the floor). I've always had problems with this plug really sealing on the tr-6 as well as the tr-3. If I had a choice of oil leaks I'll gladly take this problem LOL but it's a mess. I'm wondering if anyone has had this problem or has a solution besides just wrapping with ton's of tape........? thanks! gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 18 16:16:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C412D0678 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:16:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm30-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm30-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A171E2D064C for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:15:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm30.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2012 22:18:41 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.198] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2012 22:18:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1056.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2012 22:18:41 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 15261.93824.bm@omp1056.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 95733 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Sep 2012 22:18:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348006720; bh=pmOfh0bUFXiAptyXE2wsLucWNDlr6fltdG3Tj7Ojw+k=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Zhw2GLtB15y7k+vCq4w93nQSVEeCLHPr+85urKm8691r6CzDiHoVtWnKVYTLTHA6dI2gYkonOJwE7n9/qju2W86fqw81xzOkp5ixwuGZnrO0Ps72xIA379I0ttyd/ZywrBjR183+Gv7xgGciAh+VVTX4H8zx0AtoLJxtEriscz8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jAonm0DMa4tFGlAVbaqJXhpYXj168nktLqs1TbXGHpVSgDCCZCuxToG2GtV0frw8XmZyxOrwt12bHHcVbNOgTX5w/TWWA13jaiiNlxW4KSipOSrP67qtqtXurRNBdChhQ8CdgoK/6uyC6MQv9ezYhKplU8gF0nO28/TurlSp+Vs=; X-YMail-OSG: u4euvZcVM1nKUHUSE1hYWVmWZjF_hzqxWcTP1AU0MNNbmtb yqYRbWcSc.YMzhlmrT.g2IeeABJtLi3DcPCAO_uSX31ImpjgvXuS4Z92jayA sQH8UUYDYBBfwVkiA9GuHRYP9OpL41.BF12WsmniWV_PcO7k4EDt_KsW6L2F Dg.1F71o_cOrnmS_npJLNpbrWoBMFezK5305VTFr8S8_xHx3JQGJBYEbiJqg UqjPx_JUQvKhMF_X1sLefPsqjrcS1Y2G0_mzVy9epugz2yKtO1yWE34Wdm6y ZTjnMLTJMSribI6pLOLsWgoXKYrjdmitWYZ_8oRAN1CWiOfCh9dCMKqhwqp8 MzgrzcxxNLQXcMKo34nBwDL2VQHvBIDedbkMCI8HJ3.9qrKM98siu5AgGnbD lTLx11b6yPdUgwDgwRLoRyC5wNq1lrfHAvFpV0W6LOqNZ9qttX3xDP1uK6dZ V6a323_eFAv7RV930NthsFzj3EgqxDGJEEmeDPc920SeuSZjuR6gW2fshe_C .v.jDpri8sPFvJMq_ Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:18:40 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <1348005970.19696.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1348006720.38750.YahooMailNeo@web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:18:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Gary Nafziger , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: <1348005970.19696.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] oil leak X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hylomar. works on everything Frank From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 3:06 PM Subject: [TR] oil leak Recently overhauled tr-3 engine I'm just breaking in has an oil leak which just keeps dripping even while sitting still and I think it's simply the oil pan drain plug. (always a drip on it with puddle on the floor). I've always had problems with this plug really sealing on the tr-6 as well as the tr-3. If I had a choice of oil leaks I'll gladly take this problem LOL but it's a mess. I'm wondering if anyone has had this problem or has a solution besides just wrapping with ton's of tape........? thanks! gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 18 16:26:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F15E2D0635 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:26:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B2F2D0684 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:26:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lahd3 with SMTP id d3so296933lah.14 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:29:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=7GkaMhXNdq/ZCWf0TeTebdplIxfIpGrqw0s/OYHwis0=; b=RbTVuOD0Nkz2ITWwpHIkl2GQkOsqkV+WXir8rUDHwWzdT5SrY4djtKjEMFj1iqGPUY dcyoX6w5CrBgfqIJyZBE4xb/WqNQewsDutmxcuWknEES617ywtR/5+iA++lizElZEmvy 0NpokgdS07FHBHMqDIj4Qhxr4J8K8JwgNKZk2lTmF4JpaU7WHve6W3MJSH+sH826GHDe I2hWdohb3Pp30dLdhSSmq+/bbTWs8mkwPyxqUqgnAyGomfas/FhCIIKtph8GYdrz8k/X clEvstliJP5Sl5zsGcN65loVSaRgNVYwCyfrFCyySdcZ+97UojgMGaCUkmTxWqZLnpvi JdrA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.106.15 with SMTP id gq15mr978045lab.42.1348007367914; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:29:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1348005970.19696.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1348005970.19696.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 17:29:27 -0500 Message-ID: From: Don Hiscock To: Gary Nafziger Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] oil leak X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fumoto oil valve? Don't have one on my TR3B, but I've used these for years on other vehicles. They work great. http://www.fumotousa.com/ Don On 9/18/12, Gary Nafziger wrote: > Recently overhauled tr-3 engine I'm just breaking in has an oil leak which > just keeps dripping even while sitting still and I think it's simply the > oil > pan drain plug. (always a drip on it with puddle on the floor). I've > always > had problems with this plug really sealing on the tr-6 as well as the tr-3. > > If I had a choice of oil leaks I'll gladly take this problem LOL but it's a > mess. I'm wondering if anyone has had this problem or has a solution > besides > just wrapping with ton's of tape........? > thanks! > > gary n. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 18 16:54:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA952D0406 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:54:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABA42D03E3 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:53:51 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=XZ5XARqLywoA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=sJ91yON_VxdcJ0rNkgAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:33888] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id A7/72-17657-33CF8505; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:56:51 +0000 Message-ID: <20120918225651.FL0XN.34427.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:56:51 -0400 From: To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , Gary Nafziger In-Reply-To: <1348005970.19696.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] oil leak X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Gary Nafziger wrote: > Recently overhauled tr-3 engine I'm just breaking in has an oil leak which > just keeps dripping even while sitting still and I think it's simply the oil > pan drain plug. (always a drip on it with puddle on the floor). I've always > had problems with this plug really sealing on the tr-6 as well as the tr-3. First thing is to be sure it is really the plug. Since it is the lowest point, almost any leak higher up will eventually drip from the plug. Last time I went chasing in that area, it was the fuel pump that was leaking oil, and the gasket formed a small pocket inside so it kept leaking for several days after the engine was shut off. If it is the plug, then I suggest: 1) Get a suitable pipe tap and chase the threads. Since they are tapered, it is OK to cut just a little bit deeper (say 1/4 turn) to clean up any damage to the thread surface. 2) Get a hardened hex socket plug rather than the standard square head plug (plus of course a suitable hex wrench to turn it). I like to use magnetic drain plugs, McMaster-Carr has them in both varieties. 3) Use teflon or PTFE "pipe dope" rather than tape. Should be readily available at your local hardware or big box store. All this is assuming you have the later oil pan with the NPT drain plug. TR2/3 up to TS18901E used a straight-thread plug and a fiber washer. If you have one of those, then use a fine flat file to carefully dress the sealing surface, plus a new washer (WF524 $.50 @ TRF) and Hylomar. Inspect the plug as well, sometimes the sealing surface gets distorted. TRF has the plug listed as V7535. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 18 19:42:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555ED2D0686 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:42:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7202D016A for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:42:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.98]) by qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0ny51k00227AodY58pl4hf; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 01:45:04 +0000 Received: from sz0151.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0plP1k00s2xV5no3fplPrK; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 01:45:23 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 01:45:04 +0000 (UTC) From: suhringtr36@comcast.net To: Triumph Mail List Message-ID: <1444236313.201092.1348019104922.JavaMail.root@sz0151a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:98.235.159.143] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - IE8 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Subject: [TR] TR3A Spare Tire X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone have recommendations for a spare tire that will fit into the spare tire trunk of a TR3A? I know we can find old 155s and replace with a new tube, but I recall years back a discussion on possible modern donut spares that would fit a TR3A as well as the trunk. Thanks. Scott Suhring 70 TR5 59 TR3A ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 18 19:47:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BB72D069E for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:47:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B692D05CE for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:47:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8J1nn4r000599; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:49:49 -0400 Received: from core-dsc002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dsc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.253.69]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 72CBFE00008C; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:49:48 -0400 (EDT) From: KingsCreekTrees@aol.com Message-ID: <4d2b.36f71eb7.3d8a7ebc@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:49:48 -0400 (EDT) To: suhringtr36@comcast.net, triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 5004 X-Originating-IP: [204.237.31.56] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1348019388; bh=9+zKmrvDDfPVgwA18i0iYlu5zyaLDdoaPVyYc0voFgo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=D0+kyBnmpXUI2Tfp8FyBbNhg4ftCbOp9zv2E5vTuLhrXTtNjTZCbNwF1bPkOLmxcz ecgjTqNCTK8IDKKJqyC3wwDrQ5OHclQdsk+cXA6Obe3iG9ADt9jH6MlFOCS4irpsdb 9D+Js7mKT0mRecH4eUZtMgZPmPQ0hE6tDyxp53II= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:500292416:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2948505924bc3298 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Spare Tire X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I use a space-saver tyre on my wire spare wheel. It's an early TR3A, which I think had a smaller spare wheel compartment (not sure on that one, though). I had a 165 on the wheel before. The previous owner managed to get it in there, but once I'd finally managed to remove it for a different job, I couldn't get it back in again, so switched to the space saver, as recommended on this list, I think. Hope that helps. Tim (TS22930LO) In a message dated 18/09/2012 9:45:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, suhringtr36@comcast.net writes: Does anyone have recommendations for a spare tire that will fit into the spare tire trunk of a TR3A? I know we can find old 155s and replace with a new tube, but I recall years back a discussion on possible modern donut spares that would fit a TR3A as well as the trunk. Thanks. Scott Suhring 70 TR5 59 TR3A ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/kingscreektrees@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 18 20:15:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47FC92D06AE for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:15:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED93A2D0686 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:14:44 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=glemon@neb.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=C49rOHz+ c=1 sm=0 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=BLh56-mdvSQA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=fvFTqgNeiE37szJb6R0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=N7/zD/GSoOFc6njiPQeb7A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.128.132.160] ([10.128.132.160:62459] helo=hrndva-web09-z02) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 04/4F-01227-74B29505; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 02:17:43 +0000 Message-ID: <20120919021743.JBGHC.183926.root@hrndva-web09-z02> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 2:17:43 +0000 From: To: KingsCreekTrees@aol.com, triumphs@autox.team.net, suhringtr36@comcast.net In-Reply-To: <4d2b.36f71eb7.3d8a7ebc@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Spare Tire X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I believe an older Saab space saver has the right bolt pattern but not sure what years maybe late 80s early nineties. Greg Lemon ---- KingsCreekTrees@aol.com wrote: > I use a space-saver tyre on my wire spare wheel. It's an early TR3A, which > I think had a smaller spare wheel compartment (not sure on that one, > though). I had a 165 on the wheel before. The previous owner managed to get it in > there, but once I'd finally managed to remove it for a different job, I > couldn't get it back in again, so switched to the space saver, as recommended > on this list, I think. > > Hope that helps. > > Tim (TS22930LO) > > > > In a message dated 18/09/2012 9:45:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > suhringtr36@comcast.net writes: > > Does anyone have recommendations for a spare tire that will fit into the > spare tire trunk of a TR3A? I know we can find old 155s and replace with a > new tube, but I recall years back a discussion on possible modern donut > spares that would fit a TR3A as well as the trunk. Thanks. > > Scott Suhring > 70 TR5 > 59 TR3A > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/kingscreektrees@aol.com > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 18 20:44:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE422D0682 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:44:30 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66072D05CE for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:44:13 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=naTFgwgOnrTb5obLrH8B2zc4jvY4O/dHuIeE/yJKH01Vd4qzqSXNBdXw894/kspb; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [75.161.46.73] (helo=Shemp) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TEAJa-0003Dj-TG; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:47:03 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Cliff Hansen" To: "Jeff" , "*Triumphs List" References: <5057C678.2040107@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <5057C678.2040107@charter.net> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:47:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-ELNK-Trace: 528c356ac306a91c1da3787d14811d2a4d2b10475b5711209c99bfdfbaa31b94c0e9cb5c0d52cc14a870c4011c145420350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 75.161.46.73 Subject: Re: [TR] Transmission Fastener Esoterica X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Jeff, That's the same part as is used on the TR4 and TR4A. The spacer fits between the bottom of the steady bracket (nice term for it) and the top of the gearbox extension. The only purpose I can see is to take up the space between the steady bracket and the gearbox. I have that greasy bit somewhere in the garage, which I can find and measure, but I think you would be just fine using washer(s) of appropriate thickness. Have no idea about the jam nut. There's plenty of space there on the TR4, relatively speaking. Cliff -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 6:55 PM To: *Triumphs List Subject: [TR] Transmission Fastener Esoterica List, I'm finally able to put my transmission back in the car (1975 TR-6) after several months of resealing and too hot to drive it anyway. There are two 1/2" bolts that fasten the transmission end housing to the mounting bracket. The RH bolt, which is 1/4" longer than the LH, also holds the "steady bracket" for the gearshift extension, and has a spacer on it. This bolt also calls for a jam nut instead of a regular bolt. When I took all this apart, I don't recall seeing a spacer, and it's not in my bolt bag. This had been out at least once or twice before, so it may have got lost. I can't find any dimensions for the spacer. So, two questions: 1. How thick should it be? It's easy for me to make one, if I know what size. 2. How important is it, anyway? There must be some clearance issues, since the jam nut is in there too, but I don't want to wait until it's back in the car to find out I need to fiddle and fettle to make it fit right. TIA, Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cliff_hansen@earthlink.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 18 21:08:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EC32D05BF for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:08:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9914D2C0D42 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:06:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LKXkseq9 c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=BLh56-mdvSQA:10 a=LnArR30AAAAA:20 a=t1UDp831xmVpJ9DsyHAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=dOT82HSyJLQA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 4A/06-21812-A6739505; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 03:09:30 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , "'Triumph Mail List'" References: <1444236313.201092.1348019104922.JavaMail.root@sz0151a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:10:05 -0700 Message-ID: <046a01cd9614$44cf48c0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1444236313.201092.1348019104922.JavaMail.root@sz0151a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Thread-Index: Ac2WCHwg4nWRvVXhTdq5LAkZpCgAOgACQOlg Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Spare Tire X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Does anyone have recommendations for a spare tire that will > fit into the spare tire trunk of a TR3A? I found a "compact spare" at the local junkyard that fit on a stock TR3 wheel and fits easily inside my early spare tire compartment. (The compartment did get larger at TS6000.) Not sure what car it was from, possibly an 80's Nissan Maxima. The wheel had the right bolt pattern, but would not clear the brake calipers on my TR so I moved the tire to a TR3 wheel. Tire size is marked as "T135/70D15". Looks like the 2012 Honda Civic Hybrid uses the same tire. Also 95-98 Acura TL and 87 Mazda RX7. Only problem, there is enough room left over in the compartment for the spare to slide around. I keep a spare blanket stuffed in beside it to prevent the sliding; which also makes a handy knee protector while changing tires or performing other roadside service. It's my understanding that the temporary spares do not suffer from the "old age" problem of ordinary car tires. Of course they are also not recommended for high speed or prolonged use. That said, I drove about 2 hours at 70+ mph on mine, with no ill effects. There's a photo at http://goo.gl/DPpp6 Kind of grungy since the tire had just been forcibly removed from my wrecked TR3A. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 18 22:32:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5E02D0630 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:32:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA422D05F7 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:32:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so1634641pbb.14 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:35:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nIJvBavm4PZ7IzWZWbJ97MaVpOe3GqIq4mhnW3T3J4E=; b=y2DiFfwxhU4KVUmZkcAcjc7+RZWdpmX4uExnvIer3ClbmrNNyzMf4vx1lIcW3qFa92 Eq64ysoMUei+jhhizNkg4R9khNCjJU23RtJIccyIeJg906yQjZOdl+61H+8rj8zg7BH4 J0gCmp0eVTJrJpPCJGN8wRcUN+9n+1K1+sIx3h5ZgamZ5McYQR0oHYksCxv6BMSggXjL njIOxgUQ46CTJGBiAtW9X8E9I4WI+X/HEZq9CXLJSyt/VnX1GNiBCXUjfAHcjStX1N7w aKKZnweugKM51vqu4dCg47Zrx7CbXyTxZliAW3uYSCHfuZLJqfYFlU4/zHwpABL2z9gf V51A== Received: by 10.66.78.97 with SMTP id a1mr3885881pax.34.1348029310106; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-155-192.phnx.qwest.net. [174.19.155.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ps2sm1148916pbb.0.2012.09.18.21.35.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50594B7A.1090503@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:35:06 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1444236313.201092.1348019104922.JavaMail.root@sz0151a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1444236313.201092.1348019104922.JavaMail.root@sz0151a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Spare Tire X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/18/12 6:45 PM, suhringtr36@comcast.net wrote: > Does anyone have recommendations for a spare tire that will fit into the spare tire trunk of a TR3A? I know we can find old 155s and replace with a new tube, but I recall years back a discussion on possible modern donut spares that would fit a TR3A as well as the trunk. Thanks. I have a 165/15 on a 48 spoke wheel as a spare. Tight but it fits in my post TS60000 3A. I can not get a 60 spoke wheel to fit. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 11:45:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9658D2D04DB for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:45:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm10-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A4742D0475 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:43:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.180] by nm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Sep 2012 17:46:03 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.248] by tm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Sep 2012 17:46:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1040.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Sep 2012 17:46:03 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 801754.90379.bm@omp1040.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 32652 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Sep 2012 17:46:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348076763; bh=gIyFKxgyBuhHmPFEvM6G1VHFMAqSj+GjX0EaG+GrHpY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yiH0m4a5p3fWDkCXhIDTzvXcIiH3hG4PgynZztZhkfBFYbL0xciogQYpZN1zp0KnZLXKApFGBAloKUELUox8hNGzBAxEe5snihjIBxE3/uTmQYi4DGP9LGNiK+yE5PA7G2DcLrsuBp4iB0ITNYA1yNN/jzxFeXhhCIlo8B87z4c= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bG2EGMIambXcasVJ2uvEtLnBwX8xZ4z2qs9yqqlaumAK1XjFlUzaPfxwp87+VOOskWs6BpSdLrqMdCpnmb02IrefSM/gjntcVtMdtpo55cdwWxIOLAOrtHoKnFdvexOtMmkbnalP0LPSwnID5j/ql2/I6yeOdCs7dK/f3n873jc=; X-YMail-OSG: j1zWxpUVM1kVOdDolFIfDcwUDhNFeg2SMIXEUSy3dbFszWb wT3Tjp4Q6jZXqSov5eU0aaZ08hDCR7Bw9wy_uBO4aXVu.1xIp6JGwumGdCJy E.igWUCGOMM2.t.Dw9FfAhVxn4tA8ImJJwUSu.lMpbsSMPlyHcmFGAXPxyYt 2bgkWLOgTOleRqphfnmilHzH.N6UK3flkJhOYrBWnBOJPYAmGUGERymDvQjk fjvc2mzL009ICG_LZeHa4CaE3pHI6NBv_waI0rDgYdYQr.jkbSNOhEpDHrFs kE3avu70Assf4mwsixayzo.q3mdB4nCNrARxB1..R43SnRFiEK0btYXcIOgv O56qrvvFTZAs3RTSJIuHdoL.buDcxIgeDypNPIMP1nswGdgioxHwfrQTQXlP 81qSi8rIReJH9ONo8Z5c4sdWL4a3LY5K7dHY5Rl7N0vQCNQ4jNxTbwjWWI8E UxPF669JydIVps1I- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 10:46:03 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <022901cd9515$19d0f970$0601a8c0@randall> <1347919337.28478.YahooMailNeo@web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1347921161.33588.YahooMailNeo@web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1348076763.72570.YahooMailNeo@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 10:46:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Frank Fisher , Geo Hahn In-Reply-To: <1347921161.33588.YahooMailNeo@web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] lift the dot fastner tr3 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net on to the next question. having never owned a tonneau i have no experience of taking one off or putting one on. so how have you guys oriented your fasteners? did you start at the windshield zipper location and have the "lift the dot" stamping facing toward the passenger. work you way around the tonneau in the same way. make the passenger side the mirror image? im sure one or two have said "i wished id put that on the other way around" thanks Frank From: Frank Fisher Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [TR] lift the dot fastner tr3 i have all the studs in place. but i just had a doh! moment. moss shows the clips with different key numbers. if one follows and pays attention one finds they all have the same part number. thanks On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Frank Fisher wrote: looking at the moss catalogs it would appear that i require multiple different lift the dot fasteners for use on the tonneau of TS 41366? >really? >thanks >Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 12:04:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB892D046F for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:04:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f169.google.com (mail-qc0-f169.google.com [209.85.216.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B072C0BF7 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:04:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by qcsd16 with SMTP id d16so1255614qcs.14 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:07:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=DqSqIiTNctEaTUw1yjgSa+kdXBJCu5Zw8PWANtPhOSY=; b=cKHcdYikzKZvXwb3Xp/+XzliGyjAgWBVdKTjh3Vp+r2wcfoRNYG/gXQOg4jQL9tfQ6 RdzJ1nRcNpm4FFbLZcAG45vcYCkRJbZs7MVwNlFxXOKsAeJBFJIaTp9bXzsF4TwGrojD TCQm5F0VdTa6cAp5r0Q57F2x22DAeJz/wVdwIM9AiKdtYQ5L3UvyCu8kLZV/v/kAcNfb WQTm9CZyUWjfSk3i+KVyPgPda+O4p5Vn2/07UpIJ5vEy/aijdG+hQmeIxFVKsISHZ4jy OuL0Q/i3mD7vCs2IRxJVCg/zvJ/WwFruF1ZkdoO2JBbUmuE8istk3SoWahsyrCqvh5iY roNw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.183.83 with SMTP id cf19mr8887910qab.44.1348078031928; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.28.34 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:07:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1348076763.72570.YahooMailNeo@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <022901cd9515$19d0f970$0601a8c0@randall> <1347919337.28478.YahooMailNeo@web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1347921161.33588.YahooMailNeo@web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1348076763.72570.YahooMailNeo@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:07:11 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Frank Fisher X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] lift the dot fastner tr3 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Frank - I have always installed with the 'dots' outward -- easier to lift & unfasten that way. One exception is if your tonneau has that slit to aid in tucking the tonneau behind the seat. That goes something like this and then this Geo. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Frank Fisher wrote: > on to the next question. > having never owned a tonneau i have no experience of taking one off or > putting one on. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 12:42:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3442D06DD for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:42:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A57D2D04C9 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:42:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=i+ZnmGSh0+SU47K8N6GOxA==:17 a=ctP1I5ahBe4A:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8A2-SfLM0G8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=87HObFBUAAAA:8 a=9EgDrOjJanhjZkMGklkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=0cSmYHG1OK8A:10 a=yY863xx4XNUA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=i+ZnmGSh0+SU47K8N6GOxA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 98.145.70.134 Received: from [98.145.70.134] ([98.145.70.134:55985] helo=GatewayPC) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from <308gtsi@roadrunner.com>) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 3C/52-28917-EA21A505; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:45:02 +0000 From: "Brian Induni" <308gtsi@roadrunner.com> To: Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:45:01 -0700 Message-ID: <004101cd9696$e0674ee0$a135eca0$@roadrunner.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2Wlt/3emnZzwH1TlSKdaQQNNd9xg== Content-Language: en-us X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120919-0, 09/19/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [TR] TR4A oil pan X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: 308gtsi@roadrunner.com List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello list, I have a left over oil pan from a TR4A I did a few years ago - free plus shipping to anyone who wants it. It looks like it was the recipient of engine bits raining on it (possible thrown rod?) and the splash guard was re-welded in place. No holes in the pan and would make a fine sump for a race car, or if yours is rusted, etc. Drop me an email at Binduni@gmail.com and let me know. Otherwise, it's going to the recycle bin. Had it on Triumph Experience but no interest http://www.triumphexperience.com/phorum/read.php?5,841402,841402#msg-841402 Gasket is gone, but you'll see the pan. Brian ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 15:57:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E962D04F0 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:57:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp2.execulink.net (smtp2.execulink.net [69.63.44.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607CC2D03D6 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:57:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-11941.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([69.63.62.168] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TESK0-0006mZ-W0 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:00:41 -0400 Message-ID: <505A408E.5060600@execulink.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:00:46 -0400 From: Angelo Graham User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR2 - Tenax fasteners X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello List: A question about the Tenax fasteners on my '2 project. Moving to the more 'fun' stuff and finishing up the interior. Wondering about the Tenax pegs. In my disassembly I neglected to separate the longer & shorter Tenax pegs. Talking about the wood screw type - 1/2" & 3/4" in length. Do the shorter 1/2" pegs screw into the scuttle capping and the longer 3/4" screw into the door capping? I'm sure the same application of lengths applies to the '3s with the Lift-a-dot pegs. Not sure it matters a whole lot, but the factory in their wisdom did supply two lengths and trying to figure out what goes where. Thanks for any help with this one. Angelo Graham ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 16:15:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076C92D0635 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:15:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp3.execulink.net (smtp3.execulink.net [69.63.44.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538172D04C5 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:15:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-3178.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([216.59.252.106] helo=[192.168.4.104]) by smtp3.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TESbL-0003kS-HZ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:18:36 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Keith Stewart In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:18:35 -0400 Message-Id: <4985BC81-9DD7-4153-80D9-0BFB0763CFA6@execulink.com> References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] lift the dot fastner tr3 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, 19 Sep 2012, at 10:46 AM, Frank Fishert wrote: > > on to the next question. > having never owned a tonneau i have no experience of taking one off or putting one on. > so how have you guys oriented your fasteners? > did you start at the windshield zipper location and have the "lift the dot" stamping facing toward the passenger. work you way around the tonneau in the same way. make the passenger side the mirror image? > im sure one or two have said "i wished id put that on the other way around" The original tonneau that came with my 62 TR4 had the "dots" across the dash oriented so that the dots were to the outside of the car (i.e. driver side is opposite to passenger side). The "dots" down the sides have the dots facing forward. The "dots" across the rear are similar to those on the dash in that the dots face toward the outside of the car (again the driver side is opposite to the passenger side. The idea here is that typically you remove the tonneau by unsnapping from the front corner toward the centre of the dash, work your way toward the back and then across the back. Repeat on the other side. Many top and tonneau installers often have the dot pointing toward the outside of the material - not because it is a better way to do it, but because the tool they use only allows the holes to be punched in that direction (the scissor/pliers type of punch as opposed to the hammer and punch type). I would think that with the TR3 it would be easier if the dots pointed downward on the doors so that you can lift vertically to remove them. Keith R. Stewart London, Ontario E-Mail: keithstewartATexeculinkDOTcom ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 16:56:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D235D2D06C6 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:56:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBCE2D04F7 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:56:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so3893701pbb.14 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:59:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=F2mg2jJQK8ZfY39uKN2fFI7DhoXgSRdd5ZObl4G9i4Q=; b=RMylQ1nIuhVgeEVv7AMTZxhF8YWLMf50BT9z/zdjTLmHiDFP2EVMjrFpClyifjcRhz e1YThskwCWOJiEH0PXov2Sdv6vqjLmUEvW/PGG9vuxvjLx5ZlmptEvxsD0pdxd5M4sAq M7cfU2FjT4/xAjJK21vT/UZyV6D491i+FRz/+oGq+8ID26QZKkK+upph8bf9Z5qstdsX 9/PNTUZFeBvj0SqnoX5gn5V48NPR8vwgAbgTUMHrpThrNtqVNKJn+pYZt/W1N3gQxYb3 kpG31iraSJUWONAgBmdj/ZoOxnvuy+HY+qh4vmZUWGzsAvLl07ivfvWY4177btG4+4yr C9Pw== Received: by 10.66.75.74 with SMTP id a10mr717067paw.46.1348095546908; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from JamesHenningsen (ip70-187-90-37.ga.at.cox.net. [70.187.90.37]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id sj5sm2488209pbc.30.2012.09.19.15.59.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:59:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "James Henningsen" To: Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:59:25 -0400 Message-ID: <005401cd96ba$6ba03f80$42e0be80$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2WukI9HHXEBSpNRoSYxN2qSt4sEg== Content-Language: en-us X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Part Need X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If anyone has an original lucas back up light assembly for the TR4 available, please contact me off list. Looking to add one on my car. Thanks, Jim Henningsen 62 TR4 75 TR6 Ocala FL ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 17:25:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41092D06C6 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:25:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35F42D04E1 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:24:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so3160137ied.14 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:27:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xcVFwA1UhyrQuJFvCxr/cOZbfPdvoAWQAFUlUmsIKYs=; b=lNAuloiZ2tbKIp1cW8+ZT8Ub8tavg6ylk2uBatfu3x6F3NMwuZ9rqzWUmfIgjUSDGt u5scAWr1kwQ4tcTJU532T9lvtkQo58FZ/3OZShPTBXzRWYK3r9U1eHEbX6s5BBZtbCt0 siu5m5KQYNOB4Bxw9XEljqRIQpTDWJVO0eohPmGktp7Mrdu0Xx+VUrX7Wizx3ZVU3f9Z dgIvcLt0eoy+Q2j5JttPIrera+brv1GlfBuNYVT3C4lPvEk8ihPuOlz0iUGLBBoIWeEs IwFAucgWrLiQVKQvJywADO+IQiIAYYAjahGwn5bRuZGK3JL69USx/ytiFfSmUgI76NfO rlPQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.95.233 with SMTP id dn9mr19877igb.63.1348097277983; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.222.165 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:27:57 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Lee&John Howard" To: triumph list list X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR4, Fuel pump,and Flagstaff X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello list Here we are at 10,000 feet in Leadville, CO, enroute to Triumphest. Coincidental with changing the jets on the Webers and retuning for the altitude, the mechanical pump quit. The pin holding the lever in place backed out, and worse, the lever fell into the crankcase! This happened while driving to find tools to remove the pump ( I took the "opportunity" to install an electric pump) , so no immediate damage to anything. My question: is there a risk in driving with the lever in the oil pan? I presume it fell to the bottom and is now safely held down in the oil. There is a baffle in the pan, but I don't remember if it is forward or rear. If at the rear, could it be a problem as the lever may be lying that much closer to the crank? Is there something I'm not considering? Re Flagstaff, can someone there recommend a shop willing to put the car on the lift, drop the pan, fish out the lever, and reinstall? So I ( and my wife) can drive stress free in the events? Many thanks for your help John Howard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 17:48:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0B62D06AB for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:48:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com (mail-iy0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B562D04EA for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:48:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iaby26 with SMTP id y26so1383972iab.14 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:51:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=3E6km6CiCP/nTzjg+xpsbJk5qGo1s2dQnlGZ5yL7I1w=; b=0532y3tajHyHuxZE0FZgUeBCRre1/xcBnwvXrag+g8F8i/UGGF5Tba13W8knXFv3gy XlAEme0y0dfltmPuFpq7I7kk0ePlFqpVLYownik5UhV1/+8N3vpyEgKq/hXUp/HmEJ4j AY2ISrK7e4Q/TQdtcXkat6A8lIiQm7kAZGJpDeAZLOckCX+/VAnHYC9IY9RCrajnIuUu 6B+CcRHL/X4FR+wPP3I3VQxz34GsHLGasP5mL/wOkEGKzY37trYuI5pn76AVbsDCZRI9 DGC7mm2kNZcKcCrAaGO9qdN8TXdjfO9N2xomLa3ri/VxyNv95SeoUY7bkb67sFbmdRt9 oLyA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.151.172 with SMTP id ur12mr95399igb.44.1348098689734; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.0.143 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:51:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:51:29 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: "Lee&John Howard" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR4, Fuel pump,and Flagstaff X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Lee&John Howard wrote: > ...the lever fell into the crankcase!... I > presume it fell to the bottom and is now safely held down in the oil. There > is a baffle in the pan, but I don't remember if it is forward or rear. If > at the rear, could it be a problem as the lever may be lying that much > closer to the crank? > >From that recent generous offer of a free oil pan, this link shows what you're dealing with: http://www.triumphexperience.com/phorum/read.php?5,841402,841402#msg-841402 Given the size of the lever and recalling how closely the pickup screen fits thru that opening, I'd be concerned that the lever is laying on top of the splash guard. I'd be inclined to drop the pan and get it out. 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[174.26.37.4]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w4sm1451036paz.38.2012.09.19.16.54.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <505A5B43.5070507@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:54:43 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] TR4, Fuel pump,and Flagstaff X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/19/12 4:27 PM, Lee&John Howard wrote: > Re Flagstaff, can someone there recommend a shop willing to put the car on > the lift, drop the pan, fish out the lever, and reinstall? So I ( and my > wife) can drive stress free in the events? I haven't tried them, but Brock Murphy at European Motor Company says he can work on Triumphs 928-214-7113 europeanmotorco@gmail.com I've had some Land Rover work done at Seven Day auto Service (928-774-0808). I've found them to be good and quick. There is nothing special about dropping an oil pan. Or if you don't mind laying on your back on a cement floor, I have a floor jack, jack stands and tools. But I do not have a spare pan gasket. If you want you can have gaskets, oil filter or any other parts you think you need express mailed to my address. Then if you plan to have the work done at a shop you can drop by and pick the parts up on your way to the shop. TeriAnn In Flagstaff, AZ. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 19:42:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A305D2D06F6 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:42:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088342D04DB for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:40:11 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=h3xgqTgREdEoQOj/pfPASC9Nczq78W0Ew8RNxKRDxv6cGghl5uT3mSdkWqLqedUi; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [75.161.46.73] (helo=Shemp) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TEVnB-0000xL-Ft for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:43:01 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Cliff Hansen" To: "list Triumph" Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:43:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-ELNK-Trace: 528c356ac306a91c1da3787d14811d2a4d2b10475b57112052d440faabd7d0d1d54c1d63bacabda510da127345fe7d85350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 75.161.46.73 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Where does the solenoid mount on a TR4A? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Ibm staring at the firewall, solenoid in hand, and Gandalfbs line from a scene in Moria comes to mind bI have no memory of this place.b Anyone able to take a quick look and let me know where the starter solenoid mounts? Ibm guessing just above the passthrough for the heater hoses, but somehow that doesnbt look right. Many thanks, Cliff ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 19:43:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CEE2D06FE for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:43:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE962D06CF for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:43:46 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=A2S81LT5ZinWu36PBKHgwkU2uJJQmlRT9wxY/qCdsSELZ7L5vDpZdYWMtQ8sF/yg; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [75.161.46.73] (helo=Shemp) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TEVqo-000649-Rx for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:46:47 -0400 Message-ID: <8DD400AD830646489F661C97A8EEFC31@Shemp> From: "Cliff Hansen" To: "list Triumph" References: <5C790DBDD9034DD5ADC8D2A20E22430C@Shemp> In-Reply-To: <5C790DBDD9034DD5ADC8D2A20E22430C@Shemp> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:46:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-ELNK-Trace: 528c356ac306a91c1da3787d14811d2a4d2b10475b57112052d440faabd7d0d14f2779aefe1d2f4fe6cf5548fce0747a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 75.161.46.73 Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - wiring harness grommet X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net So, the easiest solution to my problem turned out to be to order the correct part. For my 4A, at least, the grommet for the firewall for the main wiring harness is TRF part RG1, not RG3 as listed. Thanks to Bill Beecher for suggesting the grommet listed for the TR3 (RG1) which fits perfectly. Cliff -----Original Message----- From: Cliff Hansen Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 10:05 AM To: list Triumph Subject: [TR] TR4A - wiring harness grommet Guess I'm not getting that wiring harness in today. This is a dumb issue, but, wondering if anyone else dealt with it. TRF sells part #RG3 for the large grommet on the RHS of the firewall through which the wiring harness passes. This grommet is for a 1 7/8" hole and is the same part number for TR6. The hole in my car is 1 3/8". TRF doesn't list any other part. Moss only lists a 1 1/2" grommet for the TR4A and nothing for the TR6. Does anyone know either 1) the correct TRF part #; or 2) if the Moss part fits a 4A? Thanks much, Cliff ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cliff_hansen@earthlink.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 19:44:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086912D0719 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:44:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com (st11p02mm-asmtpout002.mac.com [17.172.220.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F4F2D06CF for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:44:39 -0600 (MDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [192.168.0.25] (71-222-108-105.ptld.qwest.net [71.222.108.105]) by st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MAM004NIKYJAQ70@st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 01:47:14 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-09-19_07:2012-09-19,2012-09-19,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1209190353 From: Darrell Walker In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:47:06 -0700 Message-id: <00626F7F-2DCC-4FE7-8B8F-AD47180A2742@mac.com> References: To: Cliff Hansen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Where does the solenoid mount on a TR4A? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Cliff, I believe the correct location is on the bracket that the battery hold down attaches to. -Darrell On Sep 19, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Cliff Hansen wrote: > Ibm staring at the firewall, solenoid in hand, and Gandalfbs line from a > scene in Moria comes to mind bI have no memory of this place.b > > Anyone able to take a quick look and let me know where the starter solenoid > mounts? Ibm guessing just above the passthrough for the heater hoses, but > somehow that doesnbt look right. > > Many thanks, > > Cliff > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/darrellw360@mac.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 20:04:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171232D06EE for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:04:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp2.execulink.net (smtp2.execulink.net [69.63.44.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49D42D06CD for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:04:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-11180.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([69.63.59.175] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TEWBF-0003gr-0d for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:07:53 -0400 Message-ID: <505A7A7D.5090705@execulink.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:07:57 -0400 From: Angelo Graham User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR2/3 glove box mounting X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello List: Can anyone help with the glove box mounting - especially the rear "L" shaped bracket? Again, not sure where this bracket fastens to the under dash. I assume the threaded bolt portion extends into the glove box and is fastened by a nut and washer (10-32?). Wondering about the end of the bracket - with a speed nut on it and where this fastens to the under dash area. Thanks for any help. Angelo Graham ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 21:30:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82AE02D06FE for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:30:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm21-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm21-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BC222D06CD for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:30:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [72.30.22.77] by nm21.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2012 03:33:32 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.125] by tm11.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2012 03:33:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 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Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:33:31 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1348112011.39904.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:33:31 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: William Brewer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This Ebay listing for a Morgan has a jpeg of the Morgan quadrant gauge with three instruments... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1960-Morgan-4-Roadster-NO-RESERVE-/30078096641 0?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4607f1520a Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 00:04:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F5E2D0733 for ; 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19 Sep 2012 23:05:37 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Angelo Graham'" , References: <505A408E.5060600@execulink.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 01:05:46 -0500 Message-ID: <84353B255B3B426AB1F9F82496949071@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <505A408E.5060600@execulink.com> Thread-Index: Ac2WslK7nhIOjd8rQpu6+5+azy9fsgAQkCjg Subject: Re: [TR] TR2 - Tenax/Lift the dot pegs X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The 3/4" screw goes across the dash as you are going through the capping as well as the scuttle, whereas on the door use the 1/2" because you are only going through the metal directly into the wood rail. Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Angelo Graham Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:01 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR2 - Tenax fasteners Hello List: A question about the Tenax fasteners on my '2 project. Moving to the more 'fun' stuff and finishing up the interior. Wondering about the Tenax pegs. In my disassembly I neglected to separate the longer & shorter Tenax pegs. Talking about the wood screw type - 1/2" & 3/4" in length. Do the shorter 1/2" pegs screw into the scuttle capping and the longer 3/4" screw into the door capping? I'm sure the same application of lengths applies to the '3s with the Lift-a-dot pegs. Not sure it matters a whole lot, but the factory in their wisdom did supply two lengths and trying to figure out what goes where. Thanks for any help with this one. Angelo Graham ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 05:29:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F422D0712 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 05:29:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF91C2D06EE for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 05:29:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.13]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8KBWTP8031914 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 07:32:29 -0400 Received: from core-moa003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 54F7FE000085 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 07:32:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <2f193.65f97719.3d8c58c9@cs.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 07:32:26 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1348140749; bh=loaEVXUZzAvJnp3I8xHFprIFTmq3eY4HwGBKVA8k0ds=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=O/qq2NjWn8sm6Oe3m2OpKXcs9XzLTDcvhFB+f3dypM8CyD23CE8MAwNhvPNh0iM8H PApzEnp/JOr4z61gBAs9oTGMhozzioWMOmYknvsd+NpO5dmoTKycUlxQHTV/LBv52K 9lL3jb+x0SaA0kkL3uvsBmGfaWSXlkLDABlTWsp0= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:477291872:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d505afecd5419 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR2/3 glove box mounting X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I used that press-stud to mount the bracket to the dash support. There is a small hole in the box for the screw that attaches the box to the bracket. A U-style clip on nut eliminates the need of trying to feed a nut on the blind side of the box. Dave In a message dated 9/19/2012 9:07:59 PM Central Daylight Time, agraham@execulink.com writes: > Hello List: > Can anyone help with the glove box mounting - especially the rear "L" > shaped bracket? Again, not sure where this bracket fastens to the under > dash. I assume the threaded bolt portion extends into the glove box and > is fastened by a nut and washer (10-32?). Wondering about the end of the > bracket - with a speed nut on it and where this fastens to the under > dash area. > Thanks for any help. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 05:43:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34A72D071F for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 05:43:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F242D070D for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 05:41:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8KBihlt001620 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 07:44:43 -0400 Received: from core-moa003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 26DC6E000081 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 07:44:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <2f4f0.7bf3e2c5.3d8c5baa@cs.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 07:44:43 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1348141483; bh=/nUnoVHxPsM3CLPxzvDmfBn3XJ5Vb2MLkjenQDMHY8M=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ptxccMSpfdCQj7+JG5+jBo0aWHtm8IGIF50/tcfIAGtLJ8UnIA8IiU1fsa9ctUi6Q hh1tUIWLcPybc9182Lhk6VZvJUCLh+tOCdCnwden5lcJfMogkcYYbYAxWc/WvgHPjK 141/AqECqSpVkxpCkJVlvJmfl504I9M5j8w7KDlc= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:422440192:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b505b01ab03c3 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Well, that's obvious, it got a fuel gauge, an oil pressure gauge, an ammeter and a fuel gauge. That's four. I guess they couldn't call it a Trident gauge without running into problems with Maserati. Dave In a message dated 9/19/2012 10:33:40 PM Central Daylight Time, wsb1960tr3a@att.net writes: > This Ebay listing for a Morgan has a jpeg of the Morgan quadrant > gauge > with three instruments... > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1960-Morgan-4-Roadster-NO-RESERVE-/300780966 > 41 > 0?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4607f1520a ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 08:33:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BAB2D071F for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:33:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail07.truedefense.com (mail07.truedefense.com [216.69.224.217]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B882D04E1 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:33:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail05.truedefense.com (unknown [172.16.9.36]) by mail07.truedefense.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D40FC60D0; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 07:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ex1hts01.onthenetoffice.com ([172.16.8.31]) by mail05.truedefense.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q8KEa7aJ067927; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 07:36:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from JPayne@ThorCon.net) Received: from EX1MBX01.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::f9f4:b916:4b54:5534]) by ex1hts01.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::dcca:855d:bb32:dc3f%12]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 07:36:07 -0700 From: Jonas Payne To: "'William Brewer'" , Triumphs Thread-Topic: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge Thread-Index: AQHNluDGm6xtm1Urk0OK7QhVUuOZLJeTSnxA Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:36:06 +0000 Message-ID: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C45D06D4E@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> References: <1348112011.39904.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1348112011.39904.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [172.16.12.69] x-pp-proceessed: f14c9345-0aa7-4395-be7e-1fa366b271af MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Morgan "Quadrant" Gauges have 4 instruments. Oil Pressure, Fuel Level, Water Temp and Amperage. These Gauges were installed in the TR powered "+4" sportscars. Of which I own 2, a 1960 Roadster and a 1961 Drop head Coupe. The gauge shown in the dash of the ebay car is not a "Quadrant" gauge, and the car is not a "+4". Rather it is a ford powered "4-4" which was and is to this day, the "Entry level" Morgan sports car. Following is a link to the catalog for "Morgan Spares" in NY for the +4 instrument panel. Also following is a link to the 4-4 instrument panel. http://www.morgan-spares.com/images/parts_book_graphics/combined/dashpanel_19 56-60_gs.jpg http://www.morgan-spares.com/images/parts_book_graphics/4_4graphics/dash.gif Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 09:19:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7552D075A for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:19:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com (mail-iy0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783862D0740 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:19:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iaby26 with SMTP id y26so2099612iab.14 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:22:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=gNBxxzXHv9AGSkCwcmi3zOrALqbsoeORiUq3dSz3XL8=; b=IS03zfg8ddlq+4AT+YmqcG+okxKtnTR0WMC/10VHNrHursqdRn8GF+w2R2TWJd/0er 4tplzDth+yjrnvDPmc7D4kAbqI4Ka4ezJ7YhM6Z31ZIHYPtOok7h1sGt4AtdgeLZ9HT/ SXua+uV0CoTKJ7Z2AVquTsHLvJvE3c1SuLNRoOCWKVRPkupBbWS7JVtySwYKcwywu5PK qdA4AFs3RIVp3UBYA5oag23PMmAuXcaS8xUepJq2YhMGFmrlpDyIpGxi4rlUAxEF82FH h/hznZExCMQUB6SJ8dBIxVQ94v+vPqzxjtaZvlCDpaxXQJltQcbzlwdpfdbTlbpxawMU pQ+Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.187.194 with SMTP id fu2mr870804igc.63.1348154553560; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.222.165 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:22:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:22:33 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Lee&John Howard" To: Geo Hahn X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR4, Fuel pump,and Flagstaff X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks, George, for the picture. I didn't remember where the splash guard ran.. Yep, Gotta drop the pan. John On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Geo Hahn wrote: > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Lee&John Howard wrote: > >> ...the lever fell into the crankcase!... I >> >> presume it fell to the bottom and is now safely held down in the oil. >> There >> is a baffle in the pan, but I don't remember if it is forward or rear. If >> at the rear, could it be a problem as the lever may be lying that much >> closer to the crank? >> >> > > From that recent generous offer of a free oil pan, this link shows what > you're dealing with: > > http://www.triumphexperience.com/phorum/read.php?5,841402,841402#msg-841402 > > Given the size of the lever and recalling how closely the pickup screen > fits thru that opening, I'd be concerned that the lever is laying on top of > the splash guard. > > I'd be inclined to drop the pan and get it out. > > Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 09:35:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8A82D0757 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:35:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E422D0723 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:32:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by padhz10 with SMTP id hz10so224262pad.14 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:35:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type; bh=yeRljiEDwz5+2lQjQQadRh4Aw04f3aLdz4M4rFtON1c=; b=jEz0oxu8vFYZoGQFPa7uRrLD1YP6OvwjEvkbDTpDlLoI21RsFu2tsfEOCuwi3FUBGG U+bsqS/vVNXajIWejF9VWLYXF7FfR5NOoihWPzcQIKgKAfsGIyQm4U4eWoW/W+BrxiOP ynJgKayd43J97yKdv9ZcTsMPQVA92tQkiavyjD3vGgRDgTwLcVDgG8cymvyAsk/MaYOA gQDGxM5qhyQI4xyO6yvyBpzBcRoTV2m9aj9ubpcvqmknCl8UHcop4/GyNIuPzvVXpMk0 wa5GAdijCruCRG/Z+lJIX+rL0Paz2gMEXo+KFNv64jNHGM9Eai6lrxNZdUJv6J8fAxi2 f2ZQ== Received: by 10.68.131.2 with SMTP id oi2mr7738294pbb.78.1348155332319; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-154-144.phnx.qwest.net. [174.19.154.144]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s10sm2612286paz.11.2012.09.20.08.35.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <505B37C1.5010401@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:35:29 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumph List X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Triumphest 2012 weather X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I just looked at the weather prediction for the end of the month and thought I'd pass it on for people planning to be at Triumphest. Pretty much all this month the weather has been highs in the mid to high70's with lows in the mid 40's but there appears to be some cooler fall weather coming in for Triumphest. Friday, Sept 28 prediction is currently clear with a high of 68 degrees and a low of 36 degrees. Saturday, the 29th prediction is clear with a high of 63 degrees and a low of 39 degrees. So mornings will be chilly and for those of you from hot climates the afternoon might be chilly to you as well. So be sure to pack accordingly. Current cheap gas is a tad over $3.70/gal for regular. Best places for cheap gas is SAMs club, Safeway and Frys food stores gas stations and the Mavrick gas station if you are coming into town from the West and take the route 66 exit from I40 into Flagstaff. If you are coming in from the West there is a gas station about 10 miles East of the CA border on I40 where you can save a lot of $$ over the needles stations. And if you have extra time built in to your trip don't forget you are only about a half hour away from Wupatki National Monument and about 75 miles from Grand Canyon South Rim and about 3-1/2 hours from Monument Valley. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 09:38:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621D42D077D for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:38:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ACB62D073C for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:38:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so4748217ied.14 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:41:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ZAdM896eQWhKUFBBzghfiXHM0ixo11bMWiMgK+c5aS8=; b=cCv94phA8LShIAQspQKsYab1dxykaL2bHVuYEI6Qzy/RlO2/7a8kcn0FBTZEUHsumV NYbydtNL+Lwn4JQ0WLkty2OjJnQt/kJwQ80Wf3hDc3c2elVjRJJF+plXryUabUNPt4zE vaCK3emvKCtWhsS9WtL02iXVv080nLimLkHq2lhcTjnpX7Cc1tAb6RVbUzHk9vc3lXLA UsKpgxhVb9OeazSt1DrmFlR6OaFhiUquFkN8VthxS2qUB4nEzHipTPHxd47F47tgBVX5 10o4Cjzn1xgrakI7/ozKRIrLck0tWxGSfERh1dpyqOOlt61yARjg9g/GWBRDLvH5N+nb pptQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.15.132 with SMTP id x4mr2012706igc.58.1348155668353; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.222.165 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:41:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <505A5B43.5070507@gmail.com> References: <505A5B43.5070507@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:41:08 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Lee&John Howard" To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR4, Fuel pump,and Flagstaff X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net TeriAnn - Thank you for that information. I've talked to Seven Day Auto - the guy once had a Healy - so understands the problem. He figures way under an hour, which is what it would take even me. I'll have Moss ship a gasket directly, and have an appointment there on Monday. See you in Flagstaff! John On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:54 PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > On 9/19/12 4:27 PM, Lee&John Howard wrote: > >> Re Flagstaff, can someone there recommend a shop willing to put the car on >> the lift, drop the pan, fish out the lever, and reinstall? So I ( and my >> wife) can drive stress free in the events? >> > I haven't tried them, but Brock Murphy at European Motor Company says he > can work on Triumphs > 928-214-7113 > europeanmotorco@gmail.com > > I've had some Land Rover work done at Seven Day auto Service (928-774-0808). > I've found them to be good and quick. There is nothing special about > dropping an oil pan. > > Or if you don't mind laying on your back on a cement floor, I have a floor > jack, jack stands and tools. But I do not have a spare pan gasket. > > If you want you can have gaskets, oil filter or any other parts you think > you need express mailed to my address. Then if you plan to have the work > done at a shop you can drop by and pick the parts up on your way to the > shop. > > TeriAnn > In Flagstaff, AZ. > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/triumphs/leejohn7@**gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 09:52:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72662D076F for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:52:51 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B8E2D074B for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:52:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DennisPC (ool-182c78ad.dyn.optonline.net [24.44.120.173]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MAN00M29O8TCWR0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:55:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:55:36 -0400 From: Dennis Culligan To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <000601cd9748$605c3eb0$2114bc10$@net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac2XSF/x90g4QODXQGCN94yGi9YiJg== X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR4, Fuel pump,and Flagstaff X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net "Lee&John Howard" wrote: >snip > the lever fell into the crankcase! I don't know if the oil pans on the TR4 and TR6 are at all alike but when the fuel pump lever broke off and dropped into the pan on my TR6 at the VTR event in Rockford, IL (MANY years ago), while preparing to put the car up on ramps and drop the pan, someone (I think it was one R. John Lye) suggested getting a magnet on a stick and poking around through the drain hole. We did that and the lever came right out! No pan drop, no new gasket, no problem. YMMV. Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 10:00:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4862D076F for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:00:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F3F2D0751 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:00:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so4802312ied.14 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:03:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=WvhV7bsk9tJrOlIPPUMtESl8zJEb35h66v2YVi+s1qY=; b=kBXuElXwk3qzt+CbIJmXAow1/EKTJr/3AxuutLxrgG/w5zyJZQtj3BMseJrGoDZ0nM t7hgv9m9jp/tlqSp0qxtpVQ+3mOuIacQzBxw/QX2FGOcqD8IRHEZyY1rMM5D5Shf+Krd yjIth5b+EIuAb9kL7iy1mpHt+6eoWCVUDE4DVDcBF+Qe8F2IUoNsGeDbLxgnwFsZ81at tE79wP3175CixfCnKw5Ud/uQYodkeiLv44vv1D8jWM4JCCP3GYHIw3JMWK61zmT9M22O 0wOrJo7i1Vegbuxe2/ZsVlSwPWd32rEUwaJUjV/4S55krsbJNXyWl/q7dAsi9XHlt2Y8 AGGA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.37.196 with SMTP id a4mr2928390igk.27.1348157019546; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.222.165 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:03:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <000601cd9748$605c3eb0$2114bc10$@net> References: <000601cd9748$605c3eb0$2114bc10$@net> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:03:39 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Lee&John Howard" To: Dennis Culligan X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR4, Fuel pump,and Flagstaff X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Actually, I've tried that with no luck. I imagine the lever moved around as I drove along a rough road to get the tools. Thanks for the tip John On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Dennis Culligan wrote: > "Lee&John Howard" wrote:**** > > >snip**** > > > the lever fell into the crankcase! **** > > ** ** > > I dont know if the oil pans on the TR4 and TR6 are at all alike but when > the fuel pump lever broke off and dropped into the pan on my TR6 at the VTR > event in Rockford, IL (MANY years ago), while preparing to put the car up > on ramps and drop the pan, someone (I think it was one R. John Lye) > suggested getting a magnet on a stick and poking around through the drain > hole. We did that and the lever came right out! No pan drop, no new > gasket, no problem. YMMV.**** > > Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U **** > > **** ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 17:53:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5472D070F for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:53:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693492D048F; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:52:11 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=pAbLZCNKPJioTqQkh7BcLhfsfQ9ssfPo7gPlI79MK0y1+u5Rnoohxkyw9mILphoq; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Cc:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.30] (helo=mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TEqaO-0005L1-6I; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:55:12 -0400 Received: from 173.55.148.99 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:55:11 -0400 Message-ID: <26121993.1348185312024.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:55:11 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: rfeibusch1@earthlink.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: f71e85446633dbfccbea1fb84dfb8425239a348a220c2609bd3e6814a620483ab4ee7a494739d081a7ce0e8f8d31aa3f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.30 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from text/html by demime 1.01d Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] The British Fall Classic - Oct 21st, 2012 in Morgan Hill, CA. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: rfeibusch1@earthlink.net List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net /local/mailman/lynxXXXX2GtRan: Permission denied ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 18:06:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2367A2D02E5 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:06:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD752D0387; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:04:54 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=T08v60WVgFcgm14iAEb21XxSjZ+oeRHleUmXQfmWPL607i8lSnTc9YpENcX+Tdwl; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Cc:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.30] (helo=mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TEqmN-0000O4-9w; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:07:35 -0400 Received: from 173.55.148.99 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:07:35 -0400 Message-ID: <15651761.1348186055175.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:07:35 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: rfeibusch1@earthlink.net To: tigers@autox.team.net, triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: f71e85446633dbfccbea1fb84dfb8425239a348a220c2609d5180e4e30c7e22d752403291e7bf6da350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.30 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from text/html by demime 1.01d Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] San Diego British Car Day Sunday, 10/7/12 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: rfeibusch1@earthlink.net List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net /local/mailman/lynxXXXXLQMHqB: Permission denied ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 21 08:17:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F912D0324 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:17:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1DB2D0318 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:16:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from PetePC ([unknown] [71.180.231.250]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MAP0021PEGV2270@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:19:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: From: "Peter Ryner" To: References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> In-reply-to: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:19:43 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I remember an email that contained a link to the TR schedule of repair operation times. I thought I saved the link, but now can't find it. My printer was down so I didn't get a chance to print it. Can someone please repost the link? TIA Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 10:20 PM Subject: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual > This question is, I think, in the same vein with those about the service > bulletins. > > I recently snagged a "1977 TR7 Repair Operation Times" booklet - an > original British Leyland publication intended to serve as a flat rate > time > guide for dealer service departments - interesting - IMHO anyway > > Does anybody have these for other models? TR6? GT6? TR8? > are they posted online anywhere? > > Cheers, > Jack Mc > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pryner@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 21 08:38:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3CC2D0751 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:38:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f41.google.com (mail-qa0-f41.google.com [209.85.216.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12AF22D0748 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:37:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by qafk30 with SMTP id k30so1544733qaf.14 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 07:40:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=GgqJom/Obb7SxZPmipjDWHeFdcLQJSaLlAj8MoqAkJE=; b=mQ3s64BiO7k0YfMms224TY3c7O1lL94xWDO98ANCTzlmbl5zJ+MQ9iJnql/VPvI4MU 1XFfCvXHKjf6AtQbAuRoaabJrd6z6e0zee8Db14RP+Lcsy7ar20J0FB2UK5wvqlmjOkh Qda8OHqhpYWrnm4nSwWFngcYhQXnA2BRHKI/fg8uC5ZzHl6RTJnahUNuhYgC99Ol7+E2 3kgVwmTUyX0vl+4Qg1gGyDFSwEJBh8PhgzfNFwoFVpBVAEaIDSp9VtwgFn3tjxBo/lqK JgbVE9HSxU+qP4vpGhwfh1CRKiyzAzxfaYdtp43MJFRlQxuMyDAaldDxL9YE/TE20E3j Go7Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.183.83 with SMTP id cf19mr12671503qab.44.1348238456063; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 07:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.28.34 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 07:40:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 07:40:55 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Peter Ryner X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Here from my folder entitled 'The Best of Randall': Stag: http://tinyurl.com/9t5jm32 TR3: http://tinyurl.com/98tq3sz Seriously, I really have such a folder. Geo On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Peter Ryner wrote: > I remember an email that contained a link to the TR schedule of repair > operation times. I thought I saved the link, but now can't find it. My > printer was down so I didn't get a chance to print it. Can someone please > repost the link? > TIA > Pete ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 21 09:03:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B78A2D0757 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:03:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED052D073C for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:59:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from PetePC ([unknown] [71.180.231.250]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MAP00BZVGG15IRP@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for Triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:02:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <34AD487372454E799A18DF8D009408D4@PetePC> From: "Peter Ryner" To: "Geo Hahn" References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:02:24 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Geo and Bill. Got it!! Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: Geo Hahn To: Peter Ryner Cc: Triumphs Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual Here from my folder entitled 'The Best of Randall': Stag: http://tinyurl.com/9t5jm32 TR3: http://tinyurl.com/98tq3sz Seriously, I really have such a folder. Geo On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Peter Ryner wrote: I remember an email that contained a link to the TR schedule of repair operation times. I thought I saved the link, but now can't find it. My printer was down so I didn't get a chance to print it. Can someone please repost the link? TIA Pete ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 21 16:01:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6632D0790 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 16:01:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94892D0748 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:59:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbbgj10 with SMTP id gj10so5303553lbb.14 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:02:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=gtVjiS99FjRB2ODbi9SbUt6gz+2QjI7805yfjpaCRnE=; b=tGraME9Etkx0bX3/4BoevwtS3RDOCISYgZciOaQWl2av/gPgzwcJTqBJzxs5/Z0Gpf 1qDH65XRQfLU+O59OJR68zPPey8gBnLIXFfCS0xmxWEPEmrRwpJtMS+S4I2sCaomhkOk FxWx9gD9V5MROb5nIpa0QrbT2vQRadCkGSId59mdZ/pMWNdUaVsK47JAfniX2Vxo6/D6 FwvkFB7HxnLgT5phDW3FNXl7EwCYVR27m2iEoT2IOkb8InM0SyLHqTnDFE3517Gh6JEh 1BEYV5kc9zpirYK3xMuv1nOh+4/gF+pnTP8gy5PIU73BsUQfsr1rIXiGN3AtTQrhyuap jhZw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.23.36 with SMTP id j4mr2129203lbf.71.1348264944439; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.2.202 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:02:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:02:24 -0400 Message-ID: From: alan salvatore To: Peter Ryner X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The Roadster Factory sells the booklet for the TR6. Al On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Peter Ryner wrote: > I remember an email that contained a link to the TR schedule of repair > operation times. I thought I saved the link, but now can't find it. My > printer was down so I didn't get a chance to print it. Can someone please > repost the link? > TIA > Pete > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 10:20 PM > Subject: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual > > > This question is, I think, in the same vein with those about the service >> bulletins. >> >> I recently snagged a "1977 TR7 Repair Operation Times" booklet - an >> original British Leyland publication intended to serve as a flat rate >> time >> guide for dealer service departments - interesting - IMHO anyway >> >> Does anybody have these for other models? TR6? GT6? TR8? >> are they posted online anywhere? >> >> Cheers, >> Jack Mc >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/triumphs/pryner@**verizon.net >> > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/triumphs/alansalvy@**gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 21 19:27:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB93D2D07C4 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:27:38 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6EC2D07C3 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:27:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.1]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8M1UIBC026971; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:30:18 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (4.sub-166-248-66.myvzw.com [166.248.66.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id DDE50E0000EF; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:30:17 -0400 (EDT) References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) From: Jack Mc Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:30:15 -0400 To: alan salvatore x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1348277418; bh=eVohWY61LoC6GewW/fVK90Myc4VnZbFBqqT5Klv37RM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=x/iNWFqLUtbxVnprSCIzSGf4KPTOjQrDu0somShi6mZXeWQDbC7RCVjztmg7qd7CO CkSpy7AWmHfaVm7cMghaa0TD5BgtlRMmXl5tGk0bfNZfcB0vGQBHhdUJOZwAGtRGf9 I/a5Ms7UES3I564RpqmJvQQtW7lDEeiyrrd8Cfas= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:504584992:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2901505d14a915d9 X-AOL-IP: 166.248.66.4 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I can't find it on the TRF web site - do you know how they have it listed? Cheers Jack Mc Sent from my iPad On Sep 21, 2012, at 6:02 PM, alan salvatore wrote: > The Roadster Factory sells the booklet for the TR6. > > Al > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Peter Ryner wrote: > >> I remember an email that contained a link to the TR schedule of repair >> operation times. I thought I saved the link, but now can't find it. My >> printer was down so I didn't get a chance to print it. Can someone please >> repost the link? >> TIA >> Pete >> ----- Original Message ----- From: >> To: >> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 10:20 PM >> Subject: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual >> >> >> This question is, I think, in the same vein with those about the service >>> bulletins. >>> >>> I recently snagged a "1977 TR7 Repair Operation Times" booklet - an >>> original British Leyland publication intended to serve as a flat rate >>> time >>> guide for dealer service departments - interesting - IMHO anyway >>> >>> Does anybody have these for other models? TR6? GT6? TR8? >>> are they posted online anywhere? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Jack Mc >>> >>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >>> options/triumphs/pryner@**verizon.net >>> >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/triumphs/alansalvy@**gmail.com > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mcgaheyrx@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 21 19:44:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123932D07C7 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:44:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f182.google.com (mail-qc0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2D02D07C6 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:43:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by qcsg15 with SMTP id g15so42003qcs.41 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:46:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ePfQ79s2pQxinFwWcVs86GGAGVekpA5AbjagjuPCbBU=; b=e145kZCh/Rf2KZ0LV3MdKvu6gMjrnItsf3Uos2+0xTJAdJKuGMEZDtv+ZwSbj+DrHx 1PNJ+KFDsWGRNyviyiM7Ei7fQWg+JBi7Qs8wUB8XJDkGUGayn/AJzQm4NrKs7AcHwpE4 8R5QulWy+L8ixJsDEyR/NqXAV4ZhJi2+rXHPjdMPgzzmQZtMeve/f97kZPNDeJGAjgDD dNUi5mhlg1KJjot51EfVYuN+UxqVfAACHV2TQLf2pfSvXCFKVdSOkue6N+pDqocDQKAY heZGWGJY/cUwgkCb/H5b+qsa7IdNHOTQUQqd7TcHIFI7ZVSa1uM8TbksFkUo5AhP104E 5BGg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.1.69 with SMTP id 5mr16296340qae.61.1348278412765; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.58.178 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:46:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:46:52 -0400 Message-ID: From: alan salvatore To: Jack Mc X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Its listed in TR6 Assembly Manual, Volume 1, page one. ( Blue Catalog) TRF HAC52E TR6 REPAIR OPERATION TIMES $3.52 Cheers, Al AA17 *HAC52E* *TR6 Repair Operation Times.* 28 pages, self-cover. A/R Published by British Leyland, 1976. Covers the times allotted to dealer mechanics for completing AA17 *HAC52E* *TR6 Repair Operation Times.* 28 pages, self-cover. A/R Published by British Leyland, 1976. Covers the times allotted to dealer mechanics for completing On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Jack Mc wrote: > I can't find it on the TRF web site - do you know how they have it listed? > > Cheers > Jack Mc > > Sent from my iPad > > On Sep 21, 2012, at 6:02 PM, alan salvatore wrote: > > > The Roadster Factory sells the booklet for the TR6. > > > > Al > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Peter Ryner > wrote: > > > >> I remember an email that contained a link to the TR schedule of repair > >> operation times. I thought I saved the link, but now can't find it. My > >> printer was down so I didn't get a chance to print it. Can someone > please > >> repost the link? > >> TIA > >> Pete > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: > >> To: > >> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 10:20 PM > >> Subject: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual > >> > >> > >> This question is, I think, in the same vein with those about the service > >>> bulletins. > >>> > >>> I recently snagged a "1977 TR7 Repair Operation Times" booklet - an > >>> original British Leyland publication intended to serve as a flat rate > >>> time > >>> guide for dealer service departments - interesting - IMHO anyway > >>> > >>> Does anybody have these for other models? TR6? GT6? TR8? > >>> are they posted online anywhere? > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Jack Mc > >>> > >>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html< > http://www.team.net/donate.html> > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > >>> options/triumphs/pryner@**verizon.net< > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pryner@verizon.net> > >>> > >> > >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html< > http://www.team.net/donate.html> > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > >> options/triumphs/alansalvy@**gmail.com< > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/alansalvy@gmail.com> > > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mcgaheyrx@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 09:23:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319402D0405 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:23:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm38-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm38-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CAA12D0401 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:22:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm38.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2012 15:25:50 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.108] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2012 15:25:50 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2012 15:25:50 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 343194.79791.bm@omp1013.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 83374 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Sep 2012 15:25:49 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1348327549; bh=CLEmBEA6xPXBYyty4QLmtLdz57qzGRE7XRZ01EuxV+w=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZX/80kPLhgeZvXhKkqXq/gar4QmNBW8g5ulOoKNaQ0WInTdxND53kx/12Io3JhJyQJxv6I15h5hxAFfpyXWFd7kzHAbVSnwmDQ6GtsaPMuXIRrm2vMkSkx9w7+8qlzgfghqHVuMlSJBamFzCZWqmBd0WUH2Y0b+v9/mvpD1181Q= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pEG3X4A3GnRLVig49tMEb7N6/WwQaNYKmVf4h7cEqJbh0C5eic+gyeTtZ2kDcCvM6o/UGNP0hwbvzDnTvf1/Mj1omtsS0xfXnGpAFhftK3HDfJ4Pd7pLuvY7NN59a4fDA05QftwDWGBzJQMsdCqvScC6iNtWshqcUA5R4/H8AHE=; X-YMail-OSG: 3jKU96wVM1lJjRU.evLfCJzCN5b2Cwk4f2Fsh00Z8yGD0en yYLbA_.YaxPJUBVgFAeuYigvbV_wiK2Iiavi7exj.3XsEDIt7w5j0X1tzLAB GSKRXjl_Wm4uX.Kj_2vm8L6_eshgti3P3Dhbn27dzwK4617pFBy3W2PYi.Lj 3dOCZIqIlq8cfaVZpw1jcq4Egj7HNuZQGqUfo2AITrhNmK.KVtCx8ti47kJY 3.7ndY_9q..MhT2Y8RR.NELsxorOUEo6q_cLSUPO1OJTCQBJsmGehrQFkx5y Ea2JFGIoqi31p3m0DIYUyuoIj7mklkb2PX8JVBhJP0iEH7YpiY9lz0ttDttd ggM_pbFTyF_llT1OGr3x2XWw2eHAy7Y516Im.ZwmbLhbkVpSNMePjR0u9RiB PBB1P8UfYM9Apuys6lq7SnmgvTj0RwQZJRP.KSkSnsGWqmQ15ZmbjmGQqeMl foM9fhOrgh1xKxp.1u4TD_dQkZ0VzgYl0PLNOhv8HgpNilE3maHmj5kO6kSk - Received: from [107.195.29.13] by web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 08:25:49 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 08:25:49 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: William Brewer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I need to add/change the coolant in my TR3. I remember years ago I used something that I bought at a Toyota dealer ISTR. It may have been called "No-Rosian" or something like that. What are the best coolants to use in a TR to minimize rust build-up in the block? I don't want to use Prestone or Autozone cheapie if there is something good out there. TIA, Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 09:49:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513882D03E3 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:49:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp005.mac.com (st11p02mm-asmtpout005.mac.com [17.172.220.240]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576DD2D03DD for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:46:01 -0600 (MDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [192.168.0.25] (71-222-108-105.ptld.qwest.net [71.222.108.105]) by st11p02mm-asmtp005.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MAR00MTSD9K29B0@st11p02mm-asmtp005.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:49:03 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-09-22_04:2012-09-21,2012-09-22,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1209220178 From: Darrell Walker In-reply-to: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 08:48:56 -0700 Message-id: <8F03BDBC-5707-4FF4-BEA4-67256012D0EE@mac.com> References: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: William Brewer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Bill, Fred Thomas was an advocate of No-Rosion: http://www.no-rosion.com I've used it in my TR4A for several years, and it seems to be doing the job. -Darrell -- Darrell Walker 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206 Vancouver, WA, USA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 11:41:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC3B2D07A2 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:41:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (fed1rmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDAB72D038B for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:39:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo305 ([68.230.241.173]) by fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120922174222.JLRP9100.fed1rmfepo103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo305> for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:42:22 -0400 Received: from Vista ([70.190.241.231]) by fed1rmimpo305 with cox id 2HiN1k00450Fepi01HiNBC; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:42:22 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020201.505DF87E.0059,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H8hZMpki c=1 sm=1 a=YXrDTWBbwbeLZAQKZEP30w==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=sNbHjcKCZEEA:10 a=iYC5IMKlkRGydF2jbw8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=G3tZZ4t64rBne8uCOq4A:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=YXrDTWBbwbeLZAQKZEP30w==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: , Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:42:45 -0700 Message-ID: <35C3C53452604854BF0D4327F5CCF02A@Vista> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2Y6axBbb/O7iwATYO9tEOf2vuWmA== X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] VTR autocross results archives X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone know if there is an archive of the results of VTR autocrosses through the years? I am particularly interested in the 2001 held in Breckinridge, CO. Thanks, Joe ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 11:53:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77332D039A for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:53:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3F82D048C for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:49:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=3NK5x1vfzfMA:10 a=ACT1KH5WAAAA:8 a=yyR9o-y2xurdhqUFkAoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 0A/E7-17657-1EAFD505; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:52:34 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: "'Triumphs'" References: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8F03BDBC-5707-4FF4-BEA4-67256012D0EE@mac.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:53:15 -0700 Message-ID: <005a01cd98eb$24729d00$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <8F03BDBC-5707-4FF4-BEA4-67256012D0EE@mac.com> Thread-Index: Ac2Y2luOUwlKnxvOTw2DFucMTw3MhAAEH+pA Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Fred Thomas was an advocate of No-Rosion: > > http://www.no-rosion.com > > I've used it in my TR4A for several years, and it seems to be > doing the job. It does seem to work, if you follow their maintenance schedule. Personally, I prefer Zerex G-05 or Prestone "Extended Life" that you only have to mess with every 5 years instead of every year. Hopefully, I've finally built a cooling system in my TR that will go that long without attention. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 12:11:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E6E2D02A4 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:11:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACF22D0325 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:11:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbbgj10 with SMTP id gj10so6101629lbb.14 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:14:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=/DGgDoyL2Ld3L691exJJWRchpgF4eiK7qKDBX3MVl4s=; b=Cxqo2omxsl/4ObEVsCbc2hw01TF6FPgjlcGYXIMYeHVa2Xl4K+E0rG2lnf8TKxcE40 KU14SoUi0zgCEpPoAQWvkniYsPIo8Glh2gh1vcncW0Yd4pCRPSFGmMO7I5pq8XMxvq4g 9kw3Zfhw6yRnPwO+kX9dqf276I6GuxncwhNDsUNk0+kv+Wiu6jpE2GcT5z9jvYEOD2+6 fXhQHiexSeVceYR2HJfBJwLc1ocp0/2EdM9qY1iZ3UM8Ll6af9tQzL3RDv2QfRvGBUTn jWRfyQwzfoO48DcURPaQrpTpVtLbNrrj0E/EzLMAwR+gco95v+7qlXqOBUwnroP7pXPu Qa3g== Received: by 10.112.82.33 with SMTP id f1mr2856907lby.35.1348337660402; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:14:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:14:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <005a01cd98eb$24729d00$0601a8c0@randall> References: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8F03BDBC-5707-4FF4-BEA4-67256012D0EE@mac.com> <005a01cd98eb$24729d00$0601a8c0@randall> From: Don Hiscock Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:14:00 -0400 Message-ID: To: Randall X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My mechanics for my 2001 Tacoma and 2008 RX350 swear by the Toyota red coolant for Toyotas -- they think it lasts longer, protects parts better, and don't use the standard brands they'll use anywhere else in a Toyota. A voice of experience -- the guys at Len's Automotive here in STL are the best I've ever had work on a car. The September 2012 issue of TR Action has a full page ad for Evans waterless engine coolants. in the UK link from the ad: http://wwwe.evanscoolants.co.uk/products.html and the US--based home office here: http://www.evanscooling.com/about-us/company-background/ The FAQ on the site is quite informative, eh? Q. What is Evans Waterless Coolant made of? A. Evans Waterless Coolants are patented synthetic non-toxic liquids blended with a non-aqueous proprietary inhibitor package. Jay Leno talks about it here: http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/extras/car-care/waterless-engine-coolant/index. shtml The 0 psi boiling point is 3750 F (1900 C). They're promoted as "lifetime" cooling system fluids. I guess I'm kind of out of touch these days -- I don't know this company's products. Advanced racing cars (like F1) don't use water in their cooling systems as far as I know. And a chemist, this makes perfect sense. Water is an incredibly aggressive solvent -- because we're water-based we don't really think about it -- even though it does have good heat-carrying capacity. Not at all surprising that non-aqueous fluid heat transfer agents would be available. Anyone have any experience? Don 1962 TR3B TSF202L On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Randall wrote: > > Fred Thomas was an advocate of No-Rosion: > > > > http://www.no-rosion.com > > > > I've used it in my TR4A for several years, and it seems to be > > doing the job. > > It does seem to work, if you follow their maintenance schedule. > Personally, > I prefer Zerex G-05 or Prestone "Extended Life" that you only have to mess > with every 5 years instead of every year. > > Hopefully, I've finally built a cooling system in my TR that will go that > long without attention. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 13:03:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9277D2D0382 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:03:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F6B2D037E for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:03:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2EVm1k00H0EPchoA1K6FRz; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:06:15 +0000 Received: from [10.242.131.249] ([174.229.195.149]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2K101k00L3DscXi8MK13rJ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:01:13 +0000 To: "=?utf-8?B?RG9uIEhpc2NvY2s=?=" ,"Randall" From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:01:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?Best_Anti-Rust_Coolant?= X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Message-Id: <20120922190329.9277D2D0382@autox.team.net> I've used the Evans. It works well, but use the thinner "racing" coolant. The thicker type works well, but runs ten degrees warmer for some reason. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Don Hiscock" To: "Randall" Cc: "Triumphs" Subject: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant Date: Sat, Sep 22, 2012 13:14 My mechanics for my 2001 Tacoma and 2008 RX350 swear by the Toyota red coolant for Toyotas -- they think it lasts longer, protects parts better, and don't use the standard brands they'll use anywhere else in a Toyota. A voice of experience -- the guys at Len's Automotive here in STL are the best I've ever had work on a car. The September 2012 issue of TR Action has a full page ad for Evans waterless engine coolants. in the UK link from the ad: http://wwwe.evanscoolants.co.uk/products.html and the US--based home office here: http://www.evanscooling.com/about-us/company-background/ The FAQ on the site is quite informative, eh? Q. What is Evans Waterless Coolant made of? A. Evans Waterless Coolants are patented synthetic non-toxic liquids blended with a non-aqueous proprietary inhibitor package. Jay Leno talks about it here: http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/extras/car-care/waterless-engine-coolant/index. shtml The 0 psi boiling point is 3750 F (1900 C). They're promoted as "lifetime" cooling system fluids. I guess I'm kind of out of touch these days -- I don't know this company's products. Advanced racing cars (like F1) don't use water in their cooling systems as far as I know. And a chemist, this makes perfect sense. Water is an incredibly aggressive solvent -- because we're water-based we don't really think about it -- even though it does have good heat-carrying capacity. Not at all surprising that non-aqueous fluid heat transfer agents would be available. Anyone have any experience? Don 1962 TR3B TSF202L On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Randall wrote: > > Fred Thomas was an advocate of No-Rosion: > > > > http://www.no-rosion.com > > > > I've used it in my TR4A for several years, and it seems to be > > doing the job. > > It does seem to work, if you follow their maintenance schedule. > Personally, > I prefer Zerex G-05 or Prestone "Extended Life" that you only have to mess > with every 5 years instead of every year. > > Hopefully, I've finally built a cooling system in my TR that will go that > long without attention. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spook01@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 13:11:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E996D2D0375 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:11:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3792C2D03AD for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:10:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H+ZZMpki c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=3NK5x1vfzfMA:10 a=z4VvCUfxI2RTC-0Lhr8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 55/B2-15382-8CD0E505; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:13:13 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: "'Triumphs'" References: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8F03BDBC-5707-4FF4-BEA4-67256012D0EE@mac.com> <005a01cd98eb$24729d00$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:13:54 -0700 Message-ID: <006701cd98f6$68e00120$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: Thread-Index: Ac2Y7hZ00VaH6O7/QNq0jW9QIxSbTwABfkBA Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Q. What is Evans Waterless Coolant made of? > > A. Evans Waterless Coolants are patented synthetic non-toxic > liquids blended with a non-aqueous proprietary inhibitor package. ISTR that, if you poke around on their site a bit, there are instructions on how to upgrade your cooling system to work with their coolant. Higher viscosity means less flow (all other things being equal), and lower heat capacity means less heat transfer for a given flow. The higher boiling point may compensate for that in most cases, but who wants to run around with the temperature gauge on the peg? My only experiment with waterless coolant was many years ago, with a TR that had persistent overheating problems. Running pure ethylene glycol (Evans is supposedly a ethylene/propylene mix), the engine did not boil over (and the temp gauge was already ruined). But the experiment ended in disaster when the true reason for the persistent overheating became apparent. The out of control EGT caused an exhaust valve stem to burn through, and the valve head wound up in the crankcase along with most of the liner. I also believe that running too high a proportion of EG was a contributing factor to my Stag overheating and blowing a head gasket on the way home from VTR 2005. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 13:56:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5036F2D02C1 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:56:51 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4972D028A for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:52:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbbgj10 with SMTP id gj10so6159324lbb.14 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:55:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=DTBQU+8Q5u0rWugImC+jhRj7YdfYBSvgvzy6RRZe9Qc=; b=qd8nzI2M8ArHvO1B397ghWpDL4CRKu8sSLGk5mY35XIHIx0sokczuMMtiAzGy/TYuc PhRtsXZoGpslT5YmfKd4OLgMLejggP+pXtOEVh4S1t1SmJDROmwkSZ6jDY7U36Mo208a 1bBirlPHr5alLEQ8IFoTPOR9gRGjvLcmjHNAvy/YA/LdAKFVBD3GH3kNtXE89wqZJjuo Jkyqt+WdEwzXpoEysjiGZcjDNWRFxFgD2beH0jmpvsYxm1TOovOHji0z46r0T45esL3t 1C55jbuQd3iZa/nn11UY0IegkiSviPwy3aGZ/sEzPbQx/ZFQNhWfpkfO14O+dK0EIqDY plEA== Received: by 10.112.24.233 with SMTP id x9mr2729947lbf.76.1348343711185; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:55:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:54:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <006701cd98f6$68e00120$0601a8c0@randall> References: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8F03BDBC-5707-4FF4-BEA4-67256012D0EE@mac.com> <005a01cd98eb$24729d00$0601a8c0@randall> <006701cd98f6$68e00120$0601a8c0@randall> From: Don Hiscock Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:54:50 -0400 Message-ID: To: Randall X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net "The 0 psi boiling point is 3750 F (1900 C)."... Sorry for the confusion in the [ALT + 0176] degrees symbol not mapping over to the simple text of team.net. It should read 375-degrees F and 190-degrees C, of course. The heat capacity of water is about 4.2 J/cubic cm-K-degree. Propylene glycol is about 2.5, ethylene glycol about 2.4. Densities are less than 5% different, so on a volumetric basis water can carry over 60% greater heat. This is why we normally don't run 100% antifreeze in our systems, and probably one of the reasons our old TRs were originally instructed to run with "clean rain water" unless it was frosty. More antifreeze isn't better. So what's really different from the waterless coolants and running 100% regular antifreeze? Propylene vs ethylene glycol? That doesn't seem like much... Don On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Randall wrote: > > Q. What is Evans Waterless Coolant made of? > > > > A. Evans Waterless Coolants are patented synthetic non-toxic > > liquids blended with a non-aqueous proprietary inhibitor package. > > ISTR that, if you poke around on their site a bit, there are instructions > on > how to upgrade your cooling system to work with their coolant. Higher > viscosity means less flow (all other things being equal), and lower heat > capacity means less heat transfer for a given flow. The higher boiling > point may compensate for that in most cases, but who wants to run around > with the temperature gauge on the peg? > > My only experiment with waterless coolant was many years ago, with a TR > that > had persistent overheating problems. Running pure ethylene glycol (Evans > is > supposedly a ethylene/propylene mix), the engine did not boil over (and the > temp gauge was already ruined). But the experiment ended in disaster when > the true reason for the persistent overheating became apparent. The out of > control EGT caused an exhaust valve stem to burn through, and the valve > head > wound up in the crankcase along with most of the liner. > > I also believe that running too high a proportion of EG was a contributing > factor to my Stag overheating and blowing a head gasket on the way home > from > VTR 2005. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 14:49:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741AC2D0411 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:49:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm28-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.234]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F31B2D03E3 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:49:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [72.30.22.92] by nm28.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2012 20:52:07 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.78] by tm14.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2012 20:52:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2012 20:52:07 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 690305.69953.bm@omp1015.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 64020 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Sep 2012 20:52:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1348347127; bh=m9EV0vfm5860GBpICDSZQ2mqWxrh4/ZNka4z+dILTI0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BpxsB9RPvvlHnP/lavjMSONjwcaexzbCC16t2y7BWoSPSBEbr9BK4+XFfLjX9Feu1T5dtY9+ZlD/akEuuMbK9bxlfNtec76aGcgCODJiqBj1V/aV+tqA6cZqeeli2F0JK4k4aFcZHcd5Fny3JpPV1c3yUWF8TYCQ4k0A5TISp5M= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EVmzNBbj+pZYV25Ta4IBqJm6ZjozI9G5t4Ix4SwIY49F1kWL8RUtbCWpE6nfaS1Lakt3Cd656hf/8/sYcO+43uVWGsb0NmeTliTvtkBc0xXkW5/XNQy4Gok3wg2OYXjs2XnwVArKrLfhGmGaay6zsnw1fnXX71LpfRntjqxo0HQ=; X-YMail-OSG: EARNuEcVM1n4OTRUDsaAUTwrbBt3uo3sbwK.DJrCrUdoBgw PJEZBVbmXYnxPNVspMby7R0TTKosR.KkSmDEEoTP6vba0Gfg8ZWozRujvbXa pGxNn2CpVtvOBDXKLiuMlQ6iLlywVUAKtpEAMfQjZbTiCZyl9SJxJHJ0bSYl CoJ3ciSukDQwarWpL5Nh52HdU6EBuc0nnrkmUgT50skOVfnpvzVXrLFiBai1 URUp.rEtonLxhMCJ9KIt5ygjPgg1bSpetvxAK1YLVG4ckIfzPJunaURdhu0O S7JwxmsoSWVt6CmMoQnInJiVZHZvl7UibkbJUfbtlYNUF1Xg0droyy_s2pTH u02OPOPzxaY1_oUWK7wHFz3x3_H9S0HIyyokbIyQlGMBRyivbhpffSPlGpQU 0oZqVkK3oi1Q1pRm0uXThNcCVug8qDiSd__LUSkXfjtWQHwqLsvIuCtpezca RxvKKMWicsdn5_Zi_GsmZ4MD1TExg6900QzsmCSEzq6HTPvp2ez3l6pJpge7 iDjLH8ADfXygphv5v7OwBvHyB0kF_.oR_m2t0rWWMa.Y89FTs Received: from [107.195.29.13] by web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:52:07 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1348347127.61804.YahooMailNeo@web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:52:07 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Web Searching X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: William Brewer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Last year I was using a website called jaxed.com to search all craiglists simultaneously looking for various things, ususally related to TR's, Morgans and Lotus Elan +2's and Elises. Craigslist sued Jaxed and got them to not use craigslist in their searches. I quit using them. Dang! It worked good. I've tried other services including searchtempest, allofcraigs and statewidelist. None of them work very well compared to Jaxed. Does anyone else have a good way to search Craigslist for car stuff? The jaxed website explains their lawsuit: http://www.jaxed.com/cgi-bin/home.cgi Jaxed was a good website. If you wanted to bring up most anything it showed you that only. Clear and simple. Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 15:08:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68A82D03F3 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:08:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81C12D03E3 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:08:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2M701k0040SCNGk5AMBGNV; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:11:16 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2MBX1k00o2xV5no3VMBX6n; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:11:32 +0000 Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:11:12 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-ID: <115235021.404026.1348348272613.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:75.67.82.24] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Seems to be a lot of conversation here about alternative coolants. I don't know. I've used Prestone 50/50 for years, stripped down engines with a hundred thousand miles on them, and have seen no sign of corrosion. Not sure but that this is all really much ado about nothing. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 15:45:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3A12D0320 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:45:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31802D03C7 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:40:25 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=dmericas@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Hsb06jvS c=1 sm=0 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=EMMHrDXEAvMA:10 a=9UWt-BEG2_qvRIGA73gA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=dN3KnEhvixEA:10 a=UncsSwx/9geXWuI8Ta3VWA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.128.132.93] ([10.128.132.93:58333] helo=hrndva-web02-z01) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 80/55-01602-FF03E505; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:43:27 +0000 Message-ID: <20120922214327.YEC5L.226739.root@hrndva-web02-z01> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:43:27 +0000 From: To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: [TR] TR4 parts needed X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to some incredible stupidity, I need two parts for my TR4 that appear to be unobtainable through the regular channels. I'm hoping the list can help me connect with a source. 1) Frame bracket that protects the bottom of the radiator. This bolts between the forward ends of the two main frame rails. 2) Yellow 7-blade fan (or a fan that has the same bolt pattern and will fit this application). I know I can convert to an electric, but I'm happy with a plastic mechanical fan if I can find one. Contact me directly at dmericas@austin.rr.com if you have either of these and would be interested in selling them. Thanks. Dean Mericas 1965 TR4 Austin, TX ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 19:24:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221822D039B for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:24:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAAF2D0390 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:24:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H+ZZMpki c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=2zBz20eOvzEA:10 a=-hSSKAJSsBq00h6sImMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55004] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id C1/46-15382-E756E505; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 01:27:27 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'William Brewer'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <1348347127.61804.YahooMailNeo@web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:28:09 -0700 Message-ID: <00e901cd992a$b0cccb60$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <1348347127.61804.YahooMailNeo@web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: Ac2ZBD09Md88rUARRqOWTzSvdFtgjgAJeS6A Subject: Re: [TR] Web Searching X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Does anyone > else have a good > way to search Craigslist for car stuff? Bit of a pain to set up, but I use Google Reader. It will aggregate from any RSS source, including Craigslist and eBay. Basically, you set up the search you want for each Craigslist site, then copy the RSS link into Google Reader. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 19:44:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9F82D0426 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:44:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C3E2D02D6 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:44:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=64C/LzBBforKVySGcfpcRA==:17 a=T3xOmAtW2PYA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=3NK5x1vfzfMA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=cV04T-U07RA9uwgkrfEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=64C/LzBBforKVySGcfpcRA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.89.87.109 Received: from [76.89.87.109] ([76.89.87.109:58796] helo=JohnnieD) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id AA/1B-28917-73A6E505; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 01:47:35 +0000 From: "John & Pat Donnelly" To: "'Triumphs'" References: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8F03BDBC-5707-4FF4-BEA4-67256012D0EE@mac.com> <005a01cd98eb$24729d00$0601a8c0@randall> <006701cd98f6$68e00120$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:47:35 -0700 Message-ID: <000301cd992d$67e48520$37ad8f60$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac2Y/OhKA5TtDKEwRoi2e+oV2Aaw7gALP+/Q Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Just so I understand this correctly, having coolent in the water allows the water in the cooling system to run more efficiently. So if I have proper 50/50 mix then when the gauge shows an increased temp the car is really being stressed. I run straight water with no problems. Johnnie '67 tr4a > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs- > > "The 0 psi boiling point is 3750 F (1900 C)."... Sorry for the > confusion in > the [ALT + 0176] degrees symbol not mapping over to the simple text of > team.net. It should read 375-degrees F and 190-degrees C, of course. > > The heat capacity of water is about 4.2 J/cubic cm-K-degree. Propylene > glycol is about 2.5, ethylene glycol about 2.4. Densities are less > than 5% > different, so on a volumetric basis water can carry over 60% greater > heat. > This is why we normally don't run 100% antifreeze in our systems, and > probably one of the reasons our old TRs were originally instructed to > run > with "clean rain water" unless it was frosty. More antifreeze isn't > better. > > So what's really different from the waterless coolants and running 100% > regular antifreeze? Propylene vs ethylene glycol? That doesn't seem > like > much... > > Don ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 19:54:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39402D0395 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:54:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth13.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth13.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A2FF2D02FD for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:54:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 12602 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2012 01:57:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.184.166.234) by smtpauth13.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.37) with ESMTP; 23 Sep 2012 01:57:38 -0000 Message-ID: <30BA2E21765643B2B44D960AF1E065FF@Spitfire> From: "Dave" To: "'Triumphs'" References: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><8F03BDBC-5707-4FF4-BEA4-67256012D0EE@mac.com><005a01cd98eb$24729d00$0601a8c0@randall><006701cd98f6$68e00120$0601a8c0@randall> <000301cd992d$67e48520$37ad8f60$@rr.com> In-Reply-To: <000301cd992d$67e48520$37ad8f60$@rr.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:56:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia An antifreeze is a chemical additive which lowers the freezing point of a water-based liquid. An antifreeze mixture is used to achieve freezing-point depression for cold environments and also achieves boiling-point elevation ("anti-boil") to allow higher coolant temperature. Freezing and boiling points are colligative properties of a solution, which depend on the concentration of the dissolved substance. Because water has good properties as a coolant, antifreeze is used in internal combustion engines and other heat transfer applications, such as HVAC chillers and solar water heaters. The purpose of antifreeze is to prevent a rigid enclosure from undergoing catastrophic deformation due to expansion when water turns to ice. Commercially, either the additive or the mixture may be referred to as antifreeze. Careful selection of an antifreeze can enable a wide temperature range in which the mixture remains in the liquid phase, which is critical to efficient heat transfer and the proper functioning of heat exchangers. from what I understand, 50/50 is not the ideal mixture. more like 2/3 water 1/3 antifreeze is better. is there a chemist on the list who can explain what effect, if any, antifreeze has on the boiling point? -----Original Message----- From: John & Pat Donnelly Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 8:47 PM To: 'Triumphs' Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant Just so I understand this correctly, having coolent in the water allows the water in the cooling system to run more efficiently. So if I have proper 50/50 mix then when the gauge shows an increased temp the car is really being stressed. I run straight water with no problems. Johnnie '67 tr4a ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 20:08:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB3F2D0408 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:08:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5C82D035E for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:07:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=3NK5x1vfzfMA:10 a=8pif782wAAAA:8 a=6TAGF0_tEBICAyw3HU8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 68/F8-28917-18F6E505; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 02:10:10 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Dave'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><8F03BDBC-5707-4FF4-BEA4-67256012D0EE@mac.com><005a01cd98eb$24729d00$0601a8c0@randall><006701cd98f6$68e00120$0601a8c0@randall><000301cd992d$67e48520$37ad8f60$@rr.com> <30BA2E21765643B2B44D960AF1E065FF@Spitfire> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:10:52 -0700 Message-ID: <00f001cd9930$a891a690$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <30BA2E21765643B2B44D960AF1E065FF@Spitfire> Thread-Index: Ac2ZLt5BSxXtyUa3R3axXhsY9ntzoAAAPslA Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > is there a chemist on the list who can explain what effect, if any, > antifreeze has on the boiling point? I'm not a chemist, but adding antifreeze does raise the boiling point. For commonly used concentrations, it's only by 10 or 15 degrees F, but it does raise it some. There is a chart at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylene_glycol Whether that is enough to compensate for its otherwise poor effect on cooling, I don't know. In my limited tests though, it would seem not. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 20:40:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9312A2D0411 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:40:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99AA72D038B for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:40:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbbgj10 with SMTP id gj10so6350373lbb.14 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:43:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GRLWP2SHppNW7S9l1Pz/HGinHEY25M92GR98dB44tGc=; b=HYYfiuxpWtOkWqEaSq2rVC6jgE4gA4DdBpmwG2FZnBVr0xg1q7+eJKoUoqv0fh/MSx GUhNhoaamxvlYeUG1ZShF5hTF6TbLUMkVNsVB3vYrFGISWZrvC989eYMhegV0RTTKQ4k 8/a6qWgIY0BKR98hTo+nBrshhR2vdJ914zCc6IZPVbv3/2vcBIVvgefQ7a70J2lbrBN/ mhKCMcJdmUsjR7Lscb8qPqeH49OtJtLBbTfOXEujjdFZUCfMfGNVX7acUFyWHCa5OjLE iRN61X9gU8BPY5tMftUF9YfE3HdOXwbKQ5lpD/xwKK54aKgVCgywGml12sNxTeV3VFsF 56/g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.9.68 with SMTP id x4mr3115137lba.46.1348368195527; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:43:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <00f001cd9930$a891a690$0601a8c0@randall> References: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8F03BDBC-5707-4FF4-BEA4-67256012D0EE@mac.com> <005a01cd98eb$24729d00$0601a8c0@randall> <006701cd98f6$68e00120$0601a8c0@randall> <000301cd992d$67e48520$37ad8f60$@rr.com> <30BA2E21765643B2B44D960AF1E065FF@Spitfire> <00f001cd9930$a891a690$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:43:15 -0500 Message-ID: From: Don Hiscock To: Randall Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mixing some other sort of molecule with water raises its boiling point and depresses its freezing point. Part of a set of properties called "colligative properties" of materials. Antifreeze has a real function -- irrespective of the heat capacity advantages of water (and it makes an excellent heat transfer fluid), ya got that pesky freezing point to deal with. The ratio of ethylene glycol (or other material -- nuthin' magic about glycol) to water determines the freezing point depression. Plenty of websites show freezing point as a function of blend ratio -- your jug of ethylene glycol should as well. Adding more ethylene glycol than needed for the temperatures expected reduces heat capacity of the fluid unnessarily and wastes ethylene glycol. Anti-boilover properties come along for the ride, but if you're adding something to raise the boiling point of water in a TR you have bigger issues. Don PS: My mom smiled for years at the memory of my dad checking a boiling over radiator before I was born by holding a match in the dark to the filler neck. Whoosh! The alcohol vapors of the pre-ethylene glycol antifreeze flashed and burned off his eyebrows. - Show quoted text - On 9/22/12, Randall wrote: >> is there a chemist on the list who can explain what effect, if any, >> antifreeze has on the boiling point? > > I'm not a chemist, but adding antifreeze does raise the boiling point. For > commonly used concentrations, it's only by 10 or 15 degrees F, but it does > raise it some. There is a chart at > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylene_glycol > > Whether that is enough to compensate for its otherwise poor effect on > cooling, I don't know. In my limited tests though, it would seem not. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 23 05:32:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB382D0322 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 05:32:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0192D0322 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 05:32:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2bXt1k0011HpZEsA1bbCie; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:35:12 +0000 Received: from sz0119.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2bbC1k0082xZMJ48abbC3W; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:35:12 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:35:12 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: "Scott T." Message-ID: <1742839741.339615.1348400112283.JavaMail.root@sz0119a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1348370184.72063.YahooMailNeo@web122304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [69.180.154.189] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - SAF3 (Mac)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, vtr@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] [VTR] VTR autocross results archives X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk http://www.mnautox.com ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott T." > To: "Joe Curry" , triumphs@autox.team.net, vtr@autox.team.net > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:16:24 PM > Subject: Re: [VTR] VTR autocross results archives > I know who won the class that included modified TR6's at Breckenridge. > > :-) 2001 or 2011? > ________________________________ > From: Joe Curry > To: > triumphs@autox.team.net; vtr@autox.team.net > Sent: Saturday, September 22, > 2012 1:42 PM > Subject: [VTR] VTR autocross results archives > > Does anyone know > if there is an archive of the results of VTR autocrosses > through the years? I > am particularly interested in the 2001 held in > Breckinridge, CO. > > > > Thanks, > Joe > _______________________________________________ > > This list supported in > part by the Vintage Triumph Register > http://www.vtr.org > > Vtr@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/vtr/sdtilton@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > > This list supported in part by the Vintage Triumph Register > http://www.vtr.org > > Vtr@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/vtr/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 23 06:35:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F43C2D065C for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 06:35:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357772D0527 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 06:35:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by obcva7 with SMTP id va7so1409690obc.14 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 05:38:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=U10GCTBwtt0mcxlKhO3tyzOvlrKFANUlEmfvebubAbk=; b=ea1mPd1d8lqBLfzb0PoySp04fxTBZkrguZ82PwH30fKVHkI2nWaTbeAVfIHWsv8pBq R6ELMIrU0kqJw/VQb8GkxSQJQUZFZxJUwFRnxAPR7dPnE+q1vK2V1hJQK79Z+inGXpNQ OGqD6ikf8kdDctZkRjDfCwG9Qye9syGyQH8EGciks4zoStiaXp4ZxHjUNjuH6f8Z4TY5 ggiw5t6BCD2/VdWPCVyeCGRC6cljW82qIONiLMHdlQALL1uWQizDD9gT8Lye+q+poAbu kpKVVFiMUIxHZT/GLf6rSp/kGOH8a/589wX6UB6wcHO+nwG1TbZH6ZSSwnuwrpugde9v 8y6w== Received: by 10.182.121.38 with SMTP id lh6mr7667096obb.16.1348403910317; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 05:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from JamesHenningsen (ip70-187-90-37.ga.at.cox.net. [70.187.90.37]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7sm1909776oek.6.2012.09.23.05.38.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 23 Sep 2012 05:38:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "James Henningsen" To: "'Randall'" , "'William Brewer'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <1348347127.61804.YahooMailNeo@web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <00e901cd992a$b0cccb60$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <00e901cd992a$b0cccb60$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 08:38:27 -0400 Message-ID: <00a801cd9988$554946c0$ffdbd440$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQGqgKD3o8SFRyN4KVRF1eVQ8yKCjAEMTG1El9WrdtA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Web Searching X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I like www.adhuntr.com to search for triumph stuff across the country on craigslist. You can also use www.craigslist.thingweb.com. Happy hunting! I have found some great stuff this way. Jim Henningsen Ocala FL 62 TR4 75 TR6 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Randall Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 9:28 PM To: 'William Brewer'; 'Triumphs' Subject: Re: [TR] Web Searching > Does anyone > else have a good > way to search Craigslist for car stuff? Bit of a pain to set up, but I use Google Reader. It will aggregate from any RSS source, including Craigslist and eBay. Basically, you set up the search you want for each Craigslist site, then copy the RSS link into Google Reader. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 23 12:12:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761EE2D0695 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:12:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7093B2C0AB7; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:11:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFB52E020; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:17:51 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <505F5224.50101@bradakis.com> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:17:08 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net, vtr@autox.team.net References: <1742839741.339615.1348400112283.JavaMail.root@sz0119a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1742839741.339615.1348400112283.JavaMail.root@sz0119a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: [TR] [VTR] VTR autocross results archives X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Some things I remember about the 2001 event: Pugs had the best time for quite a while, in a stock Spitfire on skinny street tires. We ended up using a small, dirty lot instead of the big lot at the high school down the road, shucks. It was my first event with the 8" rims on Killer. The wheels stuck out about two inches further than the wheels I had been running, and I wasn't used to them yet. I clipped lots of cones due to that extra width. I let Tom Blanchard, the fellow running the event, take Killer out on course. About the time I remember that I hadn't turned on the fuel pump he sputtered to a stop in the middle of the course. Oops. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 23 16:29:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4253F2D080D for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:29:57 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23D72D06AF for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:29:50 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=dmericas@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=C49rOHz+ c=1 sm=0 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=Dh1pmz3LQg8A:10 a=iub2ElmgtZKZnpTBYhkA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=UncsSwx/9geXWuI8Ta3VWA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.128.132.93] ([10.128.132.93:44381] helo=hrndva-web02-z01) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 06/DA-01227-51E8F505; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 22:32:53 +0000 Message-ID: <20120923223253.S67UN.231290.root@hrndva-web02-z01> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:32:53 -0500 From: To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 parts needed X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to all who responded to my plea. I got both parts in short order. This group is awesome. Much appreciated. Dean 1965 TR4 Austin, TX ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 23 16:52:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A912D081A for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:52:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp3.execulink.net (smtp3.execulink.net [69.63.44.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323F02D02C4; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:49:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-778.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([216.59.243.10] helo=[192.168.4.104]) by smtp3.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TFv2o-0005nP-4X; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 18:52:58 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Keith Stewart In-Reply-To: <505F5224.50101@bradakis.com> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 18:52:56 -0400 Message-Id: References: <1742839741.339615.1348400112283.JavaMail.root@sz0119a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <505F5224.50101@bradakis.com> To: Mark J Bradakis X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, vtr@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] VTR autocross results archives X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 2012-09-23, at 2:17 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > I let Tom Blanchard, the fellow running the event, take Killer out on course. About > the time I remember that I hadn't turned on the fuel pump he sputtered to a stop in > the middle of the course. Oops. > > mjb. Geez, how can we ever trust you again :-) Keith R. Stewart 75 Camden Road London, Ontario N5X 2K2 Home: (519) 660-1916 E-Mail: keithstewart@execulink.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 23 19:19:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC152D0852 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 19:19:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa08-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa08-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.106]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A2F72D082D for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 19:19:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 14818 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2012 01:22:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.194.3.250) by p3plsmtpa08-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.193.106) with ESMTP; 24 Sep 2012 01:22:19 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 21:22:17 -0400 Message-ID: <004401cd99f3$0b433930$21c9ab90$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2Z8g+m17LWdwg0Q7SYQB34gRKa4Q== Content-Language: en-us X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] steering wheel X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List: I am trying to restore a small-mouth on a budget - it's going to be interesting to see what a nice frame-off is going to end up costing. No fast-road car this time - just a standard TR3 with overdrive. I am doing everything but chroming, upholstery, machining and final paint. Oh - and I got Nisonger to restore the gauges. But I digress: the steering wheel 's bakelite is cracked. Anyone have any suggestions as to who could restore this for me? Really appreciate any help. Andrew Uprichard 1962 TR3B - few upgrades 1968 TR250- fast road 1957 small-mouth. Getting there ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 23 20:48:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA802D083C for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 20:48:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm37-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm37-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 01CFF2D032D for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 20:48:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2012 02:51:09 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.170] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2012 02:51:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1026.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2012 02:51:09 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 212144.14102.bm@omp1026.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 11474 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Sep 2012 02:51:09 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348455069; bh=NPzEwZEU8pb3LOuOtfQ/mPdbkAlfgiSEfRmM4yaY718=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ylYwrg4Unx2VKx4QtOK3Z7U2idqA6S+DQ71uI4SrFwnZNaE5RQMaZ/LMU+7pyBjza2re4V7oO4GCL5SnfcxsRnuGXG4VXU7cH9VEybTesguwQJDCH1XDN8mrSK8e4VzBfreI7Zt663LR8mdNJtsA9xpXKaKutPcy2Au91Ghcu5s= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LTE/BOLaxRmDHHIcDkBbYn2/D19LN8f8YPRGXoXvnjoKfP+y/tuIyznjOX00jkccQdIBGiY5BQhiC/8ak2/MxIeMi2HnzFKD+RvmtXI9m2HZ+Wko0TXWsv3P7f4tF3pyXeg3S5t5zC+7D4JGVptOkjrXrYzmAg9D5E2tzPqmfCY=; X-YMail-OSG: OBfGy.oVM1l3Jqahns2dAhje0bqHb8hkXNBapS8jFiKnLcz mg_8SWqJ2DNsXe2o19kBjZgwS0ysDdzuDGHaLu2yPRY27mTFWa0bkFHtD7P9 oUk6FOY1uNrbRcGk7tS2e69a.kKgm8VN76l3C4kjtesTw9DUELLWtYE4AZH6 iL.BFgVkq.mBbLC_qoGbC.MBl7UIfMGz9NdteRY_fTIYw1vc9oQpaZCboaAZ QQ7tHk7PPuNCh5T9mcr3unlYYujG7UBOAh_FTfVyL.5XhmD39qgA2nvH5Qfa DXwoOvM3qo6ppuMEkzWqoO8HEwptFKjSWI3nCEVgPtQzh9UBKhWthD6f0KnW MTDpQjMQUoCQ8PBIdj2Ryg0kogUHDrWk_XIyOSiWPNIBcXabQ0FIG4IQh6Vp kt05kC21YtdKYZrUlDFg8OjxTnEHwfhJ2FdHTmeGfZ0bqQEIOHFHtQxROMJH IY0.Ts7HD59ej7uLGUGNc Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 19:51:08 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1348455068.11401.YahooMailNeo@web120605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 19:51:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] steering wheel X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Nafziger List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On my tr-3 cracked steering wheel, I simply washed it up good with solvent and then used a stick of epoxy to fill in the cracks. This required several applications until I got the cracks filled "proud" of the surface so I could sand them down even with the surface. Keep filling and sanding untill the surface is completely smooth. Then several good coats of paint did it. I'm very happy with the result. gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 23 21:35:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925AC2D083D for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 21:35:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm33-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm33-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 665992D0817 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 21:35:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.144] by nm33.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2012 03:38:41 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.108] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2012 03:38:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2012 03:38:41 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 38991.32820.bm@omp1013.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 86980 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2012 03:38:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=uYqnR1kRzvmzwNTNd7XBHzY8cG4/d2cj/sSp12FfrV21j8dxsZgQBCoJTo1uvWTbjVszTnQDnt3KJBHumuny930ZkCNE26WuZE2zQrCKBwPIDiCljiW9ONFukUJkE3affULxdsB3a7Q+AKFU3/f9xLWkFXWqlPXEOGC+o3rpbUU= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1348457920; bh=TwY42OOq2fb9vm3wlkRea0lI+V5uNRsDk6gpYgBnP9g=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=5e2BdouDEpwiab9D3Gh8TpqsZzqhnbYvu34KtSGdjA22X6ESDS3YHrOtvAUdL4Xz3CGGyNYqXGjwu50SSYpZm/9YAU16Fh+mm+u9G5j11ee44lTSH2v7M5709vFk8ifPW7UI05OMPSsmPk0N8PDi/K8t01kLLZ4nFWkWo1D8vTI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Ts64s.QVM1lEvYKQbyPwYhmlOZ5EIDTLuB.tHMa6skqKj.h MNWHoO_y_Da5_e84HdPymt6NyOCzp_geHSJkUSl7Cg5e2iDQptUuT1DamQIr k.v95OEXy0IKZFZrRrulreRERhuieMkxjIY3WWIRFBBiUEJJwFxPmp8Lwj5O WMuH6JqdBncZhLyeRHym4XtL1MxN4YaO5z_PhWVO41WalscwClt5ASSBqYpL Aw7Fy_W3voU5oNPGyR5GwovTVkJ1Rbiogz5E4Fvkxz_.dYVA4V3qhVb11TRF fnDGdGgpZIz1gT5nm.yamQPTPK4An1wPTSfCLwmk9F_xZFLVqS0BD2BykkfP eJVJ7vC8JSV3fA77laIEvoIp7hBOt1d0N7eHF0zWRzbrX3jz_onu42TuuVP5 EI9RaP0AKP1wO9TCLmplPSb7lKMUow5AtR30RfFUTovqohVGNeQsfmIZxMa2 UCLtvLRyC8fs27g7t1LzO_11WamSJZUu_lfT7hjumsp5oG1x2 X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Sep 2012 20:38:40 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Gary Nafziger'" , References: <1348455068.11401.YahooMailNeo@web120605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 22:38:32 -0500 Message-ID: <5D702C1D18E64D68BD7DAC8F5F77126E@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1348455068.11401.YahooMailNeo@web120605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: Ac2Z/5Kqjrh5e0ErSEawrjvYCFkMmgABlpug Subject: Re: [TR] steering wheel X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net What type of paint did you use? I was thinking of JB Weld to fill the cracks in my wheel. Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Nafziger Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 9:51 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] steering wheel On my tr-3 cracked steering wheel, I simply washed it up good with solvent and then used a stick of epoxy to fill in the cracks. This required several applications until I got the cracks filled "proud" of the surface so I could sand them down even with the surface. Keep filling and sanding untill the surface is completely smooth. Then several good coats of paint did it. I'm very happy with the result. gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 23 22:33:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2332E2D083B for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 22:33:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B7A2D080F for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 22:33:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Hsb06jvS c=1 sm=0 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=2zBz20eOvzEA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=nk6YQiyYAAAA:8 a=pEUdX81ZAAAA:8 a=EefWS7O1SMsB3NKXU1kA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.84.49.244 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:50397] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id CF/1F-01602-B53EF505; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 04:36:43 +0000 Message-ID: <5627FCDF090B4339A713752DE3ECD0DF@GregPC> From: "Greg Lemon" To: "James Henningsen" , "'Randall'" , "'William Brewer'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <1348347127.61804.YahooMailNeo@web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><00e901cd992a$b0cccb60$0601a8c0@randall> <00a801cd9988$554946c0$ffdbd440$@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <00a801cd9988$554946c0$ffdbd440$@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 23:36:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] Web Searching X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Jaxed was great, it got sued or threatened with a suit from Craigslist, who as I understand it is owned by E-bay (known to some as "evilbay"), ebay saw the jaxed site as direct competition for E-bay, or at least that is the logical conjecture. Will have to check out the alternatives mentioned. Greg Lemon ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Henningsen" To: "'Randall'" ; "'William Brewer'" ; "'Triumphs'" Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [TR] Web Searching >I like www.adhuntr.com to search for triumph stuff across the country on > craigslist. You can also use www.craigslist.thingweb.com. Happy hunting! > I > have found some great stuff this way. > > Jim Henningsen > Ocala FL > 62 TR4 > 75 TR6 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Randall > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 9:28 PM > To: 'William Brewer'; 'Triumphs' > Subject: Re: [TR] Web Searching > >> Does anyone >> else have a good >> way to search Craigslist for car stuff? > > Bit of a pain to set up, but I use Google Reader. It will aggregate from > any RSS source, including Craigslist and eBay. > > Basically, you set up the search you want for each Craigslist site, then > copy the RSS link into Google Reader. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75@gmail.com > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 24 04:16:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095292D02C2 for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 04:16:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E551B2D07ED for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 04:12:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ool-18b8ba55.dyn.optonline.net [24.184.186.85]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MAU00HX9N604G60@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:15:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:14:24 -0400 From: George Richardson In-reply-to: <004401cd99f3$0b433930$21c9ab90$@uprichard.net> To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <50603280.6000306@key-men.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120923-1, 09/23/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: <004401cd99f3$0b433930$21c9ab90$@uprichard.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 Subject: Re: [TR] steering wheel X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Eastwood sells a steering wheel restoration kit: http://www.eastwood.com/complete-steering-wheel-restoration-kit-26003.html I used this myself on the adjustable steering wheel of my '57 TR3. It was great. It comes with instructions, epoxy, paint prep, and adhesion promoter. All you'll need is black paint. George Richardson Key Men - Keys for Classics www.key-men.com On 9/23/2012 9:22 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > List: > > > > I am trying to restore a small-mouth on a budget - it's going to be > interesting to see what a nice frame-off is going to end up costing. No > fast-road car this time - just a standard TR3 with overdrive. I am doing > everything but chroming, upholstery, machining and final paint. Oh - and I > got Nisonger to restore the gauges. > > > > But I digress: the steering wheel 's bakelite is cracked. Anyone have any > suggestions as to who could restore this for me? > > > > Really appreciate any help. > > > > Andrew Uprichard > > 1962 TR3B - few upgrades > > 1968 TR250- fast road > > 1957 small-mouth. Getting there > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/gpr@key-men.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 24 06:52:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5BF2D06DA for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:52:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBDE32D0859 for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:50:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.194.18.3]) by p3plsmtpa09-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 30tB1k00203yiWW010tCi5; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 05:53:13 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'George Richardson'" , References: <004401cd99f3$0b433930$21c9ab90$@uprichard.net> <50603280.6000306@key-men.com> In-Reply-To: <50603280.6000306@key-men.com> Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 08:53:13 -0400 Message-ID: <005a01cd9a53$8fb74c50$af25e4f0$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQIzkEFm6Sqs5SeM0mY4veocva8UWwIRJ9b/lrz86MA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] steering wheel X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thank you to all who replied. I actually have a couple of wheels, so I think I'll take a shot at one myself and if I screw up, I'll take one of you up on your (several) recommendations for the other. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of George Richardson Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 6:14 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] steering wheel Eastwood sells a steering wheel restoration kit: http://www.eastwood.com/complete-steering-wheel-restoration-kit-26003.html I used this myself on the adjustable steering wheel of my '57 TR3. It was great. It comes with instructions, epoxy, paint prep, and adhesion promoter. All you'll need is black paint. George Richardson Key Men - Keys for Classics www.key-men.com On 9/23/2012 9:22 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > List: > > > > I am trying to restore a small-mouth on a budget - it's going to be > interesting to see what a nice frame-off is going to end up costing. No > fast-road car this time - just a standard TR3 with overdrive. I am doing > everything but chroming, upholstery, machining and final paint. Oh - > and I got Nisonger to restore the gauges. > > > > But I digress: the steering wheel 's bakelite is cracked. Anyone > have any suggestions as to who could restore this for me? > > > > Really appreciate any help. > > > > Andrew Uprichard > > 1962 TR3B - few upgrades > > 1968 TR250- fast road > > 1957 small-mouth. Getting there > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/gpr@key-men.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 24 07:21:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD4D2D0865 for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 07:21:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14392D0816 for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 07:20:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbok6 with SMTP id k6so14954lbo.14 for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:23:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=1vCh79YRaS8gWDD4iO/pGTjBE3dM+XJmFwyX7kI1qns=; b=TrMVTJDmBiMRr1Jbg2N5wDmLy/rY9nFxsCzfOzVoU9ivjUZMRfUgJ1Fo1YYH2FoIrm uwTCiHYhKwTA6/s21m4IxGGvUgaj6PQn0JKwGRMartIl5yHzR+Y38i8h1dOnaTo9bXV+ e+Q3m7KRIgR1O713dE9QnTZ61tEGscefpRnDBsdL+MQM/BGqz/MX6mfCqR1NpLQBisrA X8+WTyNyfQkLM7oM6er5+zwfishHsa2AM1xF56m/0GEgGPP5gxpR0o9V3tlbm152YMSj r5sGy8JfyrM+UgnhtzQCuZbKSv83s602xM2kW7CkpR3w2I0cXUpOs6emk3sX99MkmUc2 fhFA== Received: by 10.112.9.68 with SMTP id x4mr4399146lba.46.1348492673243; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:17:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:17:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <005a01cd9a53$8fb74c50$af25e4f0$@uprichard.net> References: <004401cd99f3$0b433930$21c9ab90$@uprichard.net> <50603280.6000306@key-men.com> <005a01cd9a53$8fb74c50$af25e4f0$@uprichard.net> From: Don Hiscock Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 09:17:32 -0400 Message-ID: To: Andrew Uprichard X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] steering wheel X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Eastwood also offers a POR-15 steering wheel kit (on sale for $72, good for several wheels they say). This kit seems to be disappearing from the POR-15 website, so maybe being discontinued POR-15 products I've used in the past have worked exactly as advertised. http://www.eastwood.com/por-15-steering-wheel-repair-kit.html?srccode=ga220010&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=zzproduct_ads&adtype=pla&kw=&gclid=COz52MqizrICFcxcMgodlDIAPg Don 1962 TR3B TSF202L On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > Thank you to all who replied. I actually have a couple of wheels, so I > think I'll take a shot at one myself and if I screw up, I'll take one of > you > up on your (several) recommendations for the other. > > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of George Richardson > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 6:14 AM > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] steering wheel > > Eastwood sells a steering wheel restoration kit: > > http://www.eastwood.com/complete-steering-wheel-restoration-kit-26003.html > > I used this myself on the adjustable steering wheel of my '57 TR3. It was > great. It comes with instructions, epoxy, paint prep, and adhesion > promoter. > All you'll need is black paint. > > George Richardson > Key Men - Keys for Classics > www.key-men.com > > On 9/23/2012 9:22 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > > List: > > > > > > > > I am trying to restore a small-mouth on a budget - it's going to be > > interesting to see what a nice frame-off is going to end up costing. No > > fast-road car this time - just a standard TR3 with overdrive. I am > doing > > everything but chroming, upholstery, machining and final paint. Oh - > > and I got Nisonger to restore the gauges. > > > > > > > > But I digress: the steering wheel 's bakelite is cracked. Anyone > > have any suggestions as to who could restore this for me? > > > > > > > > Really appreciate any help. > > > > > > > > Andrew Uprichard > > > > 1962 TR3B - few upgrades > > > > 1968 TR250- fast road > > > > 1957 small-mouth. Getting there > > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/gpr@key-men.com > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 24 12:23:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE57A2D086B for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On my TR4 I opened up the cracks a little and used Bondo. Then primer and paint spray cans (Duplicolor, etc.) On Sep 24, 2012, at 2:00 PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > On my tr-3 cracked steering wheel, I simply washed it up good with > solvent and > then used a stick of epoxy to fill in the cracks. This required > several > applications until I got the cracks filled "proud" of the surface so > I could > sand them down even with the surface. Keep filling and sanding > untill the > surface is completely smooth. Then several good coats of paint did > it. I'm > very happy with the result. > > gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 25 21:03:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332792D0869 for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:03:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13952D08F0 for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:02:44 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=etWihTN2XAzCUa6yEdfoVCvAQtg3KIPbOQ2COpKCmtkZPK8TH8qupX0bgmmyrWWS; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [67.0.134.222] (helo=Shemp) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TGhwQ-0006QV-95 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 23:05:38 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Cliff Hansen" To: "list Triumph" Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:05:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-ELNK-Trace: 528c356ac306a91c1da3787d14811d2a4d2b10475b5711200d5250ea285bea26bd0033a0d537f349bf3294552ef4316f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 67.0.134.222 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Speedisleeve part no. for TR4A-6 pinion flange? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone have the current part numbers for a Speedisleeve and seal for a TR4A pinion? Chicago Rawhide is now SKF and the CR part number I have (#99149) doesnbt come up in the SKF catalog. Thanks, Cliff ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 25 21:22:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF5A2D0656 for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:22:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D69B2D037E for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:22:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=UhMbDCpsOSMA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=5GvxJhUcqwUA:10 a=5RRMVyQvAAAA:20 a=aAbgo4BSso5EWMhzpWMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=lW32n0T3mWwA:10 a=ddZT45GQ4RAA:10 a=Vfl_9cSSp6dzIZkFbf4A:9 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 a=ucH7BwLj_I8A:10 a=tNlq1oU7sllBeaBz:18 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55005] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 48/34-28917-E8572605; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 03:25:03 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Cliff Hansen'" , "'list Triumph'" References: Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 20:25:50 -0700 Message-ID: <048e01cd9b96$a0bdded0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: Thread-Index: Ac2bk/eXrjovU55XQum05EF6MOVjHQAAgojw X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Speedisleeve part no. for TR4A-6 pinion flange? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > TR4A pinion? Chicago Rawhide is now SKF and the CR part number I have > (#99149) doesnbt come up in the SKF catalog. It seems to be in the one they have posted on their web site: http://goo.gl/AUgh8 -- Randall [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of UNTITLED.JPG] ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 06:14:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6693F2D08E3 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:14:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5F72D075E for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:14:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8QCHALK015222; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:17:10 -0400 Received: from core-moe001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.65]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id BD19BE00008A; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:17:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <1bbb7.5cec1bd9.3d944c45@cs.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:17:09 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net, triumphs@sltoa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1348661830; bh=ED4tStb6fhTyjWUoowhh+wFCQm6h1KhWP/dniZEm85Q=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=W5Es52TGQvwCF958fgAnZsaUfDhdLrkD8rZJbO9ymndIL7bLm5AbApcLDg2bYLenx 2kbmAcbr8qJjR8Y9uieoi+P3UzcgGiHvAB8eSNHCew+Gs2ldVV3OcJKLBLpGmtcEC1 ry2uCBUCMe5swRQAImbWNPW3ca/6aCK0uZldGpqY= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:465516736:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c75062f24510f1 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: classic25@yadtel.net Subject: [TR] Spitfire part needed X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Forwarded from the Wedge list. Please respond to classic25@yadtel.net ******************************** I have a friend that needs a exhaust manifold for a 1978 1500cc spitfire. I'm not on the Triumph mail list so I would appreciate it if someone who is on the list would post it and let me know if it has been posted. Thanks, Joe Worsley ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 06:32:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3782D05C9 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:32:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99E72D0223 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:31:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8QCYo6B017609; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:34:52 -0400 Received: from core-moe001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.65]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id DAF83E000082; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:34:51 -0400 (EDT) References: <1bbb7.5cec1bd9.3d944c45@cs.com> To: triumphs@autox.team.net, triumphs@sltoa.org, joe.worsley@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <1bbb7.5cec1bd9.3d944c45@cs.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Massey X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: Compuserve WebMail 37001-STANDARD Received: from 96.24.251.93 by Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com (205.188.171.231) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:34:51 -0400 Message-Id: <8CF69FA7555B2ED-1F2C-3A61A@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:34:51 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1348662892; bh=eXZFq3KmY7rwi7zo10gqhQGOoTZr6555lsgnSHJnS34=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PVi8IFVkAR8FYSfqohy4qcvYy/0aXD1NsVDXh7Za0rOEUTc/PwybSrcfc5DB8grfb SwB2jrUsA44HvA8Qq6xHYUxB2j2HOesgRxOCIPEQCcOdQ92SMVZ7fgUjDrKyTj0KBw LNmG2KESVqNAlNh3w8mQvi7/3/HYO3DRQYfjJ4Xs= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:501450016:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb5062f66b38a8 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Fwd: Spitfire part needed X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Well, that didn't work. Let's try this address: joe.worsley@gmail.com, Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: Dave1massey To: triumphs ; triumphs Cc: classic25 Sent: Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:17 am Subject: Spitfire part needed Forwarded from the Wedge list. Please respond to classic25@yadtel.net ******************************** I have a friend that needs a exhaust manifold for a 1978 1500cc spitfire. I'm not on the Triumph mail list so I would appreciate it if someone who is on the list would post it and let me know if it has been posted. Thanks, Joe Worsley ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 06:43:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 477352D0733 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:43:09 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD882D0726 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:42:54 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Ewb2ex45WQ3yuXjfbqQgPVVbTSqXo142GkMT8mpp0jK7XHatduL0rIM+QCkbSGVO; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [67.0.134.222] (helo=Shemp) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TGqzs-0002ER-Fb; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:45:48 -0400 Message-ID: <729304FA67E84131A7559CE872B5DCDF@Shemp> From: "Cliff Hansen" To: "Randall" , "'list Triumph'" References: <048e01cd9b96$a0bdded0$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <048e01cd9b96$a0bdded0$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:45:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-ELNK-Trace: 528c356ac306a91c1da3787d14811d2a4d2b10475b5711200d5250ea285bea26f155adfabe892eb61ee4b264fab01f9d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 67.0.134.222 Subject: Re: [TR] Speedisleeve part no. for TR4A-6 pinion flange? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks, Randall. That part number comes up when searching their catalog but not when searching their website - user error again :) Cliff -----Original Message----- From: Randall Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:25 PM To: 'Cliff Hansen' ; 'list Triumph' Subject: RE: [TR] Speedisleeve part no. for TR4A-6 pinion flange? > TR4A pinion? Chicago Rawhide is now SKF and the CR part number I have > (#99149) doesnbt come up in the SKF catalog. It seems to be in the one they have posted on their web site: http://goo.gl/AUgh8 -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 07:28:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1522D090D for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 07:28:42 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.191]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 363F02D074B for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 07:28:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.144] by nm23.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2012 13:31:40 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.101] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2012 13:31:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2012 13:31:40 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 52607.4184.bm@omp1006.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 371 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Sep 2012 13:31:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1348666299; bh=L9pwNjnWtoemC/3fZCfXsCnheVwwjK3PDTQqkKBFoKo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qix/8LbqGBkCnwLT4eyEG4KakbP44Nxmg3CqCGmXIOaG+QI84f3dRcqD6OpgJMpeT3xcSt9zoBP+anJV3rz/+qe5Je8HA5Vj2mGZiejiG/is8cI0YikwaFeep7z0fpPgPpbGlV/IFhE5VOKcwCTuDQfpg45+ghmFh3q8S7CJT7s= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YBXKcGvdJ3W8653EsaoZPNg5XPO9fPKqbV53+ee0zzSQ4nxu1gR57pMH6ZLrLB8YM0FbKKo9w9R68e55nJA+xshisK4c/d+tRuDfcdRfbGnHTt2AKwaisBeyJY6aEDbAcMaYUoLoIUTPvgKcR+LwoH1lNG3KmTG0tHBVugHPLRw=; X-YMail-OSG: ..grIFUVM1kjikuaSJqsTuWYDe8V9rK3.vEaAw5TmzQPWUR zEpDNEMnrTAGP85C365dw4MniMLJgKRdXBFqlzeD0VM0nPIbDf9EXkQIx6Zi .jrFrxCX0R7zE3cUCH0aUPIy9O6sdMs5V4_HAR9lOyQk5sysM_N2nJ5k0gkT AkxBp.NMpcjPOMmBUgyn.Vlt55042m0W1qjOl1ZYerouznNLPU50Imq1AgAZ h4GF3qZR.pn4uiZBGBKbBm8aHKl10.xOHRSRAwxX_Be3FHCVsQADHwuOS5Z. w3oue6i4hWPjIoyzEyyJJZaQkNt7FrUPsWii1vGW8Zzm4ffVmYZ8ViTM5WsW W5REjHpryM6q9Q8PWU4waTIbG2YIYfQdh5V9ZKK0BP.7OtDzlI9rS76EYpbM NN5QcERpKwG7bEiVmco.GymHeDjDzTJURGqoZ3LBgKt6vYoc0KiWMdcD1YEE TNrZYTuPaSWizfSmsP7EGZADnEZPPxwwntCB3RKqXEh6y5Oylje0u.tAUfAA - Received: from [107.195.28.17] by web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:31:39 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.434 Message-ID: <1348666299.94837.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:31:39 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Hope Springs Comments X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: William Brewer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I took my wife to dinner and a movie last night. We saw "Hope Springs". The movie draws middle aged couples because of the plot about an older married couple in marriage counseling. I parked my TR3 directly in front of the theater just because. Anyway, my wife was late (as always) and there was a steady stream of mid-50's & 60's guys looking at my car and asking questions while their wives rolled their eyes. Every one of them had a TR or MG story about their youth. One guy gave me a card and asked if he can buy my car if I ever sell it (sorry Charlie, no way). I love driving an old TR. Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 08:16:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CAD2D0921 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:16:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07ACB2D0768 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:16:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by padfa10 with SMTP id fa10so564509pad.14 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 07:19:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kY4NqgrumrLg9V7nP3tcZtKhv4kUInAbkW4Kt6zqBpY=; b=niRtGnJ6tuCHz/V2OjgJn1TxnrloYp/+TaZRnJoj35SsgT12hgq9p5UKkTIgg+92hA R0k0v6BG0Kzah0srDGV8WvT/HGBlnWbIhv39hCCzzVQZK7uVxnsIWWQcxQbyKQoWTTOp RotsSzSwMrj5tO/3hNmuvQbYN6Yktd0nq/yhhmngtnC/8u2x7ETbmrKPe4whJTmJm77L bv/eQpJsReV1k243lGD9ZqkR0IlnDl7RTmK1rcGvD4IvPp5VQiWSEMhDOWSn/9IhmUlp ydc+yZzIOrk+KPpqn+Stt+jgCE5xoOTASkSdJNhB8pdY2gwu3AzAZaM+15BdNLfM8dnp XhWg== Received: by 10.68.242.97 with SMTP id wp1mr2766769pbc.159.1348669155240; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 07:19:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-154-144.phnx.qwest.net. [174.19.154.144]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l6sm69022pav.12.2012.09.26.07.19.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 26 Sep 2012 07:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50630EE0.5080100@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 07:19:12 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1348666299.94837.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1348666299.94837.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] Hope Springs Comments X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/26/12 6:31 AM, William Brewer wrote: > Every one of them had a TR or MG story > about their youth. One guy gave me a card and asked if he can buy my car if I > ever sell it (sorry Charlie, no way). I love driving an old TR. > > I few weeks ago my red TR3A was at the Flagstaff Route 66 car show. It was parked next to a red 1957 Corvette. After checking out the other cars in the show I mostly hung out by my car as did the owner of the 'Vette. Both of us occasionally let enthusiastic folks sit behind the wheel so they could get their picture taken. What was interesting was what people said. My TR3 was the source of many people's past. Stories of high school and college days. Of the fun and good times had by previous British sports car owners, many of which sold their cars when a first child arrived. My car was the stuff of remembered good times. Though I expect some memories were a bit shinier and burned brighter than the actual realities. It was also the stuff of longing for a simpler and maybe happier past as many people said they would like to get another one. The Corvette was the stuff of unrealized dreams. Of something bright shiny and powerful they lusted for in high school and college but could never afford in the days before family and "responsibilities" took their tolls on their lusts and dreams. Whereas many people told stories of past involvements with TRs almost no one mentioned a past involvement with the 'Vette. Just always wanting one and it being out of their reach. Most car show visitors just walked past most of the cars on display. Maybe stopping to look in the engine bay and interior before moving on the next of 400 and something cars lining the streets of down town Flagstaff. But when they got to our pair of two seater sports cars a constant stream of people had to stop and relate stories of dreams and past experiences. Both cars were symbols of people's past, their car lusts and dreams. We noticed that the bigger corvette was of more interest to teenagers old enough to drive and the much smaller TR3 attracted the most pre teens. I think largely because it was so different than most of the cars at the show and it was closer to their size. it seemed easier for them to relate to a much smaller car. There were a lot of pictures taken of pre teens sitting behind the wheel of my TR3 with one hand on the steering wheel and an elbow resting on the door. Noticeably more pictures were taken of people standing in front of the TR than in front of the Vette. We both concluded that my car was the stuff of memories though probably mostly idealized memories and fantasies . His 57 Corvette was mostly the stuff of unreached fantasy. Of dreams unobtained. When the show was over I think both of us went home in the glow of knowing that our realities were the stuff of so many other people's dreams. Oil spots and all. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 13:24:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118EF2D04C7 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:24:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3A62D037E for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:24:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vznit170176pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.3]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MAZ00L4621IQUT0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:27:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 131.247.90.134 ([131.247.90.134]) by vznit170176 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:27:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:27:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Carl TR To: tjwakeman@gmail.com, triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <4950567.1111009.1348687638698.JavaMail.root@vznit170176> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Verizon Webmail X-Originating-IP: [131.247.90.134] Subject: Re: [TR] Hope Springs Comments X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Well said. Thank you. Carl On 09/26/12, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: On 9/26/12 6:31 AM, William Brewer wrote: > Every one of them had a TR or MG story > about their youth. One guy gave me a card and asked if he can buy my car if I > ever sell it (sorry Charlie, no way). I love driving an old TR. > > I few weeks ago my red TR3A was at the Flagstaff Route 66 car show. It was parked next to a red 1957 Corvette. After checking out the other cars in the show I mostly hung out by my car as did the owner of the 'Vette. Both of us occasionally let enthusiastic folks sit behind the wheel so they could get their picture taken. What was interesting was what people said. My TR3 was the source of many people's past. Stories of high school and college days. Of the fun and good times had by previous British sports car owners, many of which sold their cars when a first child arrived. My car was the stuff of remembered good times. Though I expect some memories were a bit shinier and burned brighter than the actual realities. It was also the stuff of longing for a simpler and maybe happier past as many people said they would like to get another one. The Corvette was the stuff of unrealized dreams. Of something bright shiny and powerful they lusted for in high school and college but could never afford in the days before family and "responsibilities" took their tolls on their lusts and dreams. Whereas many people told stories of past involvements with TRs almost no one mentioned a past involvement with the 'Vette. Just always wanting one and it being out of their reach. Most car show visitors just walked past most of the cars on display. Maybe stopping to look in the engine bay and interior before moving on the next of 400 and something cars lining the streets of down town Flagstaff. But when they got to our pair of two seater sports cars a constant stream of people had to stop and relate stories of dreams and past experiences. Both cars were symbols of people's past, their car lusts and dreams. We noticed that the bigger corvette was of more interest to teenagers old enough to drive and the much smaller TR3 attracted the most pre teens. I think largely because it was so different than most of the cars at the show and it was closer to their size. it seemed easier for them to relate to a much smaller car. There were a lot of pictures taken of pre teens sitting behind the wheel of my TR3 with one hand on the steering wheel and an elbow resting on the door. Noticeably more pictures were taken of people standing in front of the TR than in front of the Vette. We both concluded that my car was the stuff of memories though probably mostly idealized memories and fantasies . His 57 Corvette was mostly the stuff of unreached fantasy. Of dreams unobtained. When the show was over I think both of us went home in the glow of knowing that our realities were the stuff of so many other people's dreams. Oil spots and all. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 14:23:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D292D04EB for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:23:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8300D2D048F for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:20:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lagp5 with SMTP id p5so30238lag.14 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:23:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=K5ehAMDaidoVnC50W8F9zkpodVNZPe5oiWrK9Vl/krs=; b=vnEBg1lpj/ep1mDjNjGJuNf9K8iBxfVp3Lzw7SYC3nUUzG0/y/og5XVmS1X4AWcCAF ERjhFeSGz9rrhMjazlwSp4SG5O2203h0Zy9lR/gGArP4fB1Kzu9K6CTKCxjz21hSxoPe BdCKzDlYcZ9dG9VkISJ6KcTm5sHApx1wWinqEl9810GBoGK5SggfTzwad9D50ErDpEXr gAQ1fqnH6WLqaKvUN6kPmPT60e62J7KiReYE9mKARfmizBWjTyosE5HpD5zZFVd1epyT i98xUpZmnWEZoWUZ3lfesdwjZFOL5SbIk5efAwUYfsPNmMkt9QUvFvytLFdmyggj4XyG sw3Q== Received: by 10.152.114.5 with SMTP id jc5mr1509303lab.36.1348691017799; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:23:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:23:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Hiscock Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:23:17 -0400 Message-ID: To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Routing of Speedo Cable on LHS non-OD TR3A/B? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net A new speedo cable will be installed in my TR3B in a week or two as the original gave up the ghost about a week after the car's return to the road (a nasty kink exiting the gearbox). As I look at old photos of my car pre-restoration and reference photos of other unrestored TR3A/Bs the exact cable routing isn't clear. The TRA Judging Standards and Restoration Guidelines is confused too, apparently, treating some of the details with ??? in the text on page UH-23 of the May 2004 revision. Triumph usually did what they did for a reason, typically cost control or maximum reliability. Whaddya all think? 1. Does the speedometer cable go between the inner fender and steering column or between engine and steering column? 2. One or two clips on the chassis? (the Triumph Spare Parts Catalog 4th Edition specifies two, one to chassis, one to cruciform, with different part numbers for each) 3. Any P-clips on the dash? (Parts catalog specifies a clip + screw for non OD and even two on RHS version. A screw clip on LHS non-OD mystifies me, and it's not clear which side of the firewall they're referring to for this "dash" clip.) TIA, Don ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 15:15:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857A82D04FE for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:15:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com (mail-bk0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677032D04D7 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:15:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: by bkcjm1 with SMTP id jm1so824413bkc.14 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:18:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=3wWCAMaiRcj2FhOTCtPOH1mLNMlwescVgovoWiJH1lk=; b=TZc9tuq8duAh4oHU+HcZzhTFtVQa0HFutY039KwG2/uA0COU0EMyp+56tKShv5uUOU 2VRXU9iaRahSUsfICILqcL9AS2L1Ioj7pF2aZel7bihLrVRR4MFcAx28wsJtnWWhOvkZ kTHCPKCdKt724FCqTQQ/DvO/2ofWZyQKJuaITC5L2rphcKXhYuwqN7yyHwgqXQuSFKcz lG8eVPVm/GQcIdoVHZR0/QtYFpSdxjNoIdtIemaVUm8k9c62IarizCMKPbDY0TrdWKXU pQAm0zO9TAZvGXEPXl1GaHoIBHtvWuaG/2kHOdfmXIZvsrJoJWMJ81C9E+ajWjdEsdVm 6u6w== Received: by 10.112.9.3 with SMTP id v3mr902311lba.32.1348694337964; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:18:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:18:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Don Hiscock Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:18:37 -0400 Message-ID: To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Routing of Speedo Cable on LHS non-OD TR3A/B? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Consensus coming in through pm is that LHS non-OD speedo cable is routed between steering column and inner fender, as illustrated on page 13 of blue-covered "Practical Hints" TR3 manual. No word on where a p-clip might fit, though... Thanks, guys. Don On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Don Hiscock wrote: > A new speedo cable will be installed in my TR3B in a week or two as the > original gave up the ghost about a week after the car's return to the road > (a nasty kink exiting the gearbox). As I look at old photos of my car > pre-restoration and reference photos of other unrestored TR3A/Bs the exact > cable routing isn't clear. The TRA Judging Standards > and Restoration Guidelines is confused too, apparently, treating some of > the details with ??? in the text on page UH-23 of the May 2004 revision. > > Triumph usually did what they did for a reason, typically cost control or > maximum reliability. > > Whaddya all think? > 1. Does the speedometer cable go between the inner fender and steering > column or between engine and steering column? > 2. One or two clips on the chassis? (the Triumph Spare Parts Catalog 4th > Edition specifies two, one to chassis, one to cruciform, with different > part numbers for each) > 3. Any P-clips on the dash? (Parts catalog specifies a clip + screw for > non OD and even two on RHS version. A screw clip on LHS non-OD mystifies > me, and it's not clear which side of the firewall they're referring to for > this "dash" clip.) > > TIA, > > Don ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 15:35:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8FD2D04E7 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:35:51 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp1.ctinetworks.com (smtp1.ctinetworks.com [205.166.61.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E572D03B0 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:35:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ITTEST4 (75.97.214.12.res-cmts.sth3.ptd.net [75.97.214.12]) by smtp1.ctinetworks.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D321C585BB3; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:38:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "davewillner" To: "Don Hiscock" , "Triumphs" References: Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:40:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-ctinetworks-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ctinetworks-MailScanner-ID: D321C585BB3.A3E44 X-ctinetworks-VirusCheck: Found to be clean X-ctinetworks-Watermark: 1349559529.53291@fWnvpE/mMNIm94MpClp3cQ Subject: Re: [TR] Routing of Speedo Cable on LHS non-OD TR3A/B? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have no P clamps on either cable....I have seen clips on early 3s under a slotted screw (at the 1 o'clock position) that helps hold the steering grommet in place from turning with the column (in addition to the spring clamp), that might be for the speedo cable? Although I don't believe my post 60,000 car ever had a clip there. Dave Willner Stroudsburg PA 59 TR3A 70 MGB 70 BSA 441 VS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Hiscock" To: "Triumphs" Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [TR] Routing of Speedo Cable on LHS non-OD TR3A/B? > Consensus coming in through pm is that LHS non-OD speedo cable is routed > between steering column and inner fender, as illustrated on page 13 of > blue-covered "Practical Hints" TR3 manual. > > No word on where a p-clip might fit, though... > > Thanks, guys. > > Don > > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Don Hiscock > wrote: > >> A new speedo cable will be installed in my TR3B in a week or two as the >> original gave up the ghost about a week after the car's return to the >> road >> (a nasty kink exiting the gearbox). As I look at old photos of my car >> pre-restoration and reference photos of other unrestored TR3A/Bs the >> exact >> cable routing isn't clear. The TRA Judging Standards >> and Restoration Guidelines is confused too, apparently, treating some of >> the details with ??? in the text on page UH-23 of the May 2004 revision. >> >> Triumph usually did what they did for a reason, typically cost control or >> maximum reliability. >> >> Whaddya all think? >> 1. Does the speedometer cable go between the inner fender and steering >> column or between engine and steering column? >> 2. One or two clips on the chassis? (the Triumph Spare Parts Catalog 4th >> Edition specifies two, one to chassis, one to cruciform, with different >> part numbers for each) >> 3. Any P-clips on the dash? (Parts catalog specifies a clip + screw for >> non OD and even two on RHS version. A screw clip on LHS non-OD mystifies >> me, and it's not clear which side of the firewall they're referring to >> for >> this "dash" clip.) >> >> TIA, >> >> Don > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/davewillner@pa.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 16:15:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025072D04DB for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:15:57 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716E42D0375 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:15:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120926221855.ZLAC24708.mta31.charter.net@imp10> for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:18:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.136.73]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id 3yJv1k00G1bBNls05yJvy9; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:18:55 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=qU9vTENroOq2s6i9/sTxZt9WOCoWX/XGfIT3Tj8F8dQ= c=1 sm=1 a=FB6NmUnAAagA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:17 a=3av8m78kAAAA:8 a=A2rXmIRYpsqTgv6oENsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:117 Message-ID: <50637F50.80704@charter.net> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:18:56 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: *Triumphs List X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120926-1, 09/26/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [TR] TR6 Gearbox Cover X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Another question regarding TR6 fastener esoterica... TR6 gearbox cover - I'm replacing my cardboard mess with a plastic one. There is a short metal "bridge" that attaches to the cover to make the seal under the bulging part of the cover. You can see the bulge in this photo from Rimmer: http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-713569PL -- it's on the side, right under the gear lever hole. My bridge piece has one hole to align with the cover hold-down bolt, and two holes in the vertical bit to attach to the cover. On the old cover, it looks for all the world like it had one screw and one rivet. There's only one spire nut on the piece...and what looks like an old broken rivet in the cover. If I took the screw out, I don't remember. Does this sound right? I suppose it doesn't really matter, but I'm curious - if it uses one screw and one rivet, does that mean my car was assembled after a pub lunch? Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 16:27:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFBB2D04EB for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:27:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm1-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm1-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.161]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 732262D0457 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:25:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2012 22:28:39 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.160] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2012 22:28:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2012 22:28:39 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 493446.11439.bm@omp1016.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 41350 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Sep 2012 22:28:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348698519; bh=zLneb/bi1HEci+4OoRcKsO1BtwJ8keCp8Q+u+5/mTyA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cVmHNJ+AfOSUV0RNoDxicXT9lbGEA6MVUq3X0EIUNpt5qg1ka51cBaFlyTGsLNB6otmHYwzj5955OR1gKSTuX0/e++adCJ5B6H6bBqBLS9Ozyjk82g6Jf2vmlaMces2c+hL37vSw8X0hoyOSUAW1ozgkpvOjRiD7Jj9NPbyl7sE= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=X8QsRu1rvxAM1bdgl8cFM7KEGNKiQq1BNp1C5z10bv3LMlR9DONzfYFm/Xb3L6M4dFkNE0wKoVjfGGIQCITHY37CR6BB/XS8u59alb6QVYVx+YC4R4YxpuHy7ef0eWi05m2us3Bm/o/RLgM7C4gsaqv3sQ4Jh57BkdpVY6aZMqw=; X-YMail-OSG: bP4pFMQVM1n_eYuXu.m74t_bhdxYpO8YyQ19h5oaH5xdnQ8 PWE6332Lg9OBtl4s8MserZssjDetYBKeRXH7mS9YXvLiWXadeZz5BLMz0l5P Ou_s.toD.PEssrLR41VH3AdFc4JLSZy3Lgyr4yR65EDAztmcIBR.lRkAt8Rg Kl27kcwOytvSuVaht87U555Lm4Nse9Civ5IjqxGYRFoqqcicKeY5CVQYRR1N dgGpencavzaEpJR651CZZj_ZpP2CZw9eSSYx7S0ChIqI3NFIodNkSEbuEpdC fDKGCmLhZ.eGrj7wh8wu0kqXBDGXORiBbkrnq_sC75IOz.QzZvtWYAQJzZI8 hE1LgGP5S.anDztUu0IgTsKcf89Fd3I9.ZLHp4ib4KYw87KVlZjtlAqgnxqv 8iTtOh06St32FCZyQvA1GogLzCpoQqb8jI2y6Lk6y8f1cfmreP75XGoP3LI_ 68oQLznG97AM.XsDV9nnun6lzvQV0uONeEWPQxg2KGHjpuHPI4admJgtYl9b bgJz6iE79nj_zTdBEMOTlIcdDULrDB7ihqgswVa88H8VhbAZplgu_zQslBQ3 QN32K1Zs8S8sroqZQ6HGshofRr6bGOaM- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:28:39 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.434 References: <50637F50.80704@charter.net> Message-ID: <1348698519.6227.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:28:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Jeff , Triumphs In-Reply-To: <50637F50.80704@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Gearbox Cover X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net could your "rivet" be the remnants of the carpet hold down snap? frank From: Jeff To: *Triumphs List Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 3:18 PM Subject: [TR] TR6 Gearbox Cover Another question regarding TR6 fastener esoterica... TR6 gearbox cover - I'm replacing my cardboard mess with a plastic one. There is a short metal "bridge" that attaches to the cover to make the seal under the bulging part of the cover. You can see the bulge in this photo from Rimmer: http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-713569PL -- it's on the side, right under the gear lever hole. My bridge piece has one hole to align with the cover hold-down bolt, and two holes in the vertical bit to attach to the cover. On the old cover, it looks for all the world like it had one screw and one rivet. There's only one spire nut on the piece...and what looks like an old broken rivet in the cover. If I took the screw out, I don't remember. Does this sound right? I suppose it doesn't really matter, but I'm curious - if it uses one screw and one rivet, does that mean my car was assembled after a pub lunch? Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 16:51:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7204B2D04F6 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:51:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1922D047B for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:51:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120926225433.MDF10966.mta11.charter.net@imp10>; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:54:33 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.136.73]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id 3yuY1k00B1bBNls05yuYgo; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:54:33 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=qU9vTENroOq2s6i9/sTxZt9WOCoWX/XGfIT3Tj8F8dQ= c=1 sm=1 a=FB6NmUnAAagA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:17 a=3av8m78kAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=1b4IPv4Iw35OB4RNog4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=TzJN8xikMM6rVZwAhNkA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:117 Message-ID: <506387AA.8030606@charter.net> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:54:34 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Fisher References: <50637F50.80704@charter.net> <1348698519.6227.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1348698519.6227.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120926-1, 09/26/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Gearbox Cover X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/26/2012 6:28 PM, Frank Fisher wrote: > could your "rivet" be the remnantsof the carpet hold down snap? The rivet matches up with the hole in the bridge/bracket. I don't think there's a snap there, but I could be wrong. Doesn't look like one, though... > TR6 gearbox cover - I'm replacing my cardboard mess with a plastic > one. There is a short metal "bridge" that attaches to the cover to > make the seal under the bulging part of the cover. You can see the > bulge in this photo from Rimmer: > http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-713569PL -- it's on the side, > right under the gear lever hole. > > My bridge piece has one hole to align with the cover hold-down bolt, > and two holes in the vertical bit to attach to the cover. On the old > cover, it looks for all the world like it had one screw and one > rivet. There's only one spire nut on the piece...and what looks like > an old broken rivet in the cover. If I took the screw out, I don't > remember. > > Does this sound right? I suppose it doesn't really matter, but I'm > curious - if it uses one screw and one rivet, does that mean my car > was assembled after a pub lunch? > > Jeff Scarbrough > Corrosion Acres, Ga. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 18:24:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC082D04F6 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:24:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C3152D03A5 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:24:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2012 00:27:32 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.3] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2012 00:27:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2012 00:27:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 686438.98243.bm@omp1003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 56632 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Sep 2012 00:27:32 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348705652; bh=Lj19j/D1mJ7arAKLxVfqOOl/mB74SYa8h6Kv980xD0E=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Sz4wjtTTwanD5/MNxwWtKOlCscDKQW0AzlNQmtHzxOrRUbhQ4W7L3x0yRnP+wsvl8SUVWPKy9LP3Symy7uyvyLxBiholSnuyTbNuc/hs/M7HAmGXoe2JAe19H+7H3deX3jZVUKJE5w45fxB1tHKSiNQ7+49i105xT5gDPPpaezM= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wztrSnP+bJzJMU40yskKyG0ur3ck+In5CUcYMz0dypGm+HC26za4UxHU6iQ6VDBrLHYenGi4EDKsvQySzGk87cIXPG/gIjq1TwBqETqg37tKnHZ9GJE56Px8lP4Z+bc4cX79kvtJQ+EPrBQYt/99o3FzdjkcHxMhJ5FOkhtThJs=; X-YMail-OSG: RDz7I28VM1nDfHbeyxsa8UxpfZ3M1AmSkHwO.1e_DD2p0jv rT82yQkBefSQYi3.jupuMw4pHe3H0jAZ6bJG4A9ONqBmqi.xk2k_VORw5uoI EpvSUHOETZezInm1J_AH_0pxA07hROHNKt_EspugAowx2xY_e.opLkOJaojM vhK4eUuVXfRA1ey14klGDt076qz0li6PXHRpBu0vutsw0N60d5G4s7oxjWBu rflbus223iQ0Lrar0Q8e_We5l3xe8_ygRNO.MNqXaJ.u4T.5f5DS4VsqHPuS pdbOB7TvGNbNF.sUVpJXkDb.WvzeIWg0SmKo7KyEjA329tkVAO9y52RGezaS uH27YF1u6Mcplc6YVIiONkIpy6BCqn53GetSkc9nNVSRums.ftrmYXHcszSo ADb1ZWN_sO_Cm_u9HVDpRrM90RaDRVUHBdT1QsQTGRyMWhVuARxNviJgXKGC 3UWNy.GICVF4.tVDJLM9o Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:27:32 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.434 Message-ID: <1348705652.37322.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:27:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] control head "roller" ? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Nafziger List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Took apart the control head (tr-3)...........re-assembled............... and now can't make the lever stay ON when moved to the right or left. (when moved to right or left it flies back to center). Should there be a "roller" or spring loaded "ball" on the lower end of the turn signal lever? I notice there is a square hole in the bottom of the lever which holds a spring and I also have a square shaped piece of brass that slides inside the square hole and over the spring. The tip of this square shaped brass piece has a cross cut depression which looks as it should hold something................. I might have lost? thanks gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 20:12:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB082D03B8 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:12:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D6B2D0330 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:12:09 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LKXkseq9 c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=Exq7NNYy_2EA:10 a=zPxtSL1LsHAGYYBPWl8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55004] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A1/CB-21812-1B6B3605; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 02:15:14 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: <1348666299.94837.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50630EE0.5080100@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:16:02 -0700 Message-ID: <058f01cd9c56$0b205040$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <50630EE0.5080100@gmail.com> Thread-Index: Ac2b8fj3YMx9KkXdS0mqyQ8V+LnFRAAY/h2g Subject: Re: [TR] Hope Springs Comments X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > When the show was over I think both of us went home in the glow of > knowing that our realities were the stuff of so many other people's > dreams. Oil spots and all. You do have a way with words, TeriAnn. Thank you. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 20:51:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E242D03B1 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:51:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFEC2D03A9 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:51:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by padfa10 with SMTP id fa10so1080672pad.14 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:54:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type; bh=uA5OpmJigSnEyF0fqhXmzHCnRfUstRQqGvbCUR/HQgc=; b=JjE3I+DqRM2zXa+n4Sqp0LVUK9bx7gufiKK9hYR3oAgNeFaAH53wYR6ORWsbMlC1qg fipOkiQEYPR2790BkAxtjgzZIQKkkZxiRdmZfDAROnbuYyhe5MWByCVP7OlLr3FBnKi3 mSreXrIAC/TUXmUSBSckAPu4KH4uVcBvoX65V1hC4YiyvM9vqYcJ3Zpkpcmmipg+v3rx Y97+7UHyQvGJabiDU5mppYJgIaHzX+JOuccDn/NxrKlc02wjwa+kccI3ob6C9IRR5RuW 8T9hlU7khxAX4CgVMTFe/gWgJPX0zgwH6x1lD1tp9iZ46l3zaV0LN07KAuQTK8gnmNh0 Xq3g== Received: by 10.66.75.168 with SMTP id d8mr5908131paw.63.1348714455007; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flagstaff365.com (174-19-154-144.phnx.qwest.net. [174.19.154.144]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id nz6sm3037042pbb.50.2012.09.26.19.54.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5063BFD3.6020903@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:54:11 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumph List X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] A triumph desert starts a short fall bloom X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This afternoon I pulled my TR3 out of the garage and made a run to the East side Home depot to pick up more bonemeal for some tulips I'm planting. Little America, the scene of the ever so imminent 2012 Triumphest is all of maybe 2 blocks from my freeway entrance on the way home to Western Flagstaff. So I decided to take a slight detour, call it pre gathering excitement. Sitting at the back of the Little America parking lot was a trio of TR6's. As near as I have been able to determine that tripled the number of Triumphs in Flagstaff. There is my 3A plus a guy just South of Flagstaff proper who owns a blue TR6 and a Black 3A. That's the entire Flagstaff TR resident population. Soon, very soon there will be a brief bloom of Triumphs in a Triumph desert. I am so looking forward to not being alone on the streets in a TR. It was hard moving from the Monterey bay area with its British sports cars & nearby British car field meets to a town on Route 66 that loves old American iron but has a dearth of classic British cars. Monterey car week used to be one of the major highlights of my year. Flagstaff has a lot to offer but British sports cars is not part of the scene. So this weekend I will bask in the company of Triumphs during this all too short fall Triumph bloom. To those of you coming to Triumphest - Welcome. TeriAnn Look for a red TR3A with hard top and FOT grille badge. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 27 04:16:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4AF2D0692 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:16:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm22-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.53.218]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B228B2D0640 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:16:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.52.197] by nm22.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2012 10:19:27 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.170] by tm10.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2012 10:19:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1053.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2012 10:19:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 133986.28329.bm@omp1053.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 57800 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Sep 2012 10:19:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348741166; bh=WkffQAkidO1vadjjsu34byOT97TjJoLFJNV4gGwFdnQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vPwR1z6iiAI9mjWw6fSNLj1zRQ3ypgdcgnYddQp5Bo4Hh8EJCIGI+eKAAben0v+JfX0CEKr7lwje0XVpa/nKleA+LuAOFSgL+ebl0SQWLXI1OxRTadbw0zwf8obUSNmpDwQ/ReooWdTQslltVmBo7zkhHgrxOzqurEcETZQmLeM= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SMhmPEAWcJsCq7Mq0i7b7NcX1f56W9UUb/GiMyi2nN7zIMZikoZ3N84/T8E77p1kxIcU6LszDi46HNAi1WbF+tPtscoVeOMPFAC6vE+mTZSv7k+1sqOLwHDc9PjvhEHZ1Veyd410yfYiWrD+/NoRzUyTt1z6fvosbAP3ZFYkFE0=; X-YMail-OSG: qkhFsugVM1m5YEqFpMx8JO0fOJY0V2FVCQIEWJMHVJs6onI 6pjV9BUStL4oWdJx7ogtp3AMkbbeHB_r3zoPjtt16bx6uJf1PNjTMlw98pk7 XQ1KFbA9egj9W_8vhMkA_DPwtvjg7N0AZDGER5eGoHAkaPjQZ0wLXJ76Xr4T A83F_7NWjsUWC8AN7fgHyIQJppJWxQFhEvaMDgCrAIfjy8GV7BR5DwOpLQ8y gKHgCy.TborNZU4NZ_pDgTDCqtOWFwc0rkIKDwyqrRz1NVTyECvucsaZba0i _NPZOZZCKxRT8_2pR42zRlYggCdUgeL6rwH5q44PAi4kJCaQbilNlzD5c5RI DUMyfLR9OlZfM6zvMZRlEbq_mgXOveKRcRMsQxjuv8V3AHFuLe6Qw20uGIcn 3yRRHlJkLjqv82g1AemPvBAerhECPQuCtlRN5hHmPUzNe2F_n_DLhU_uc33g nW3PNKKIGPoXomzwaXxjudMtSD.E0kOJLvPoOY3GlhsfWFjQ- Received: from [74.110.31.126] by web39402.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 03:19:26 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.434 Message-ID: <1348741166.35293.YahooMailNeo@web39402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 03:19:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Cosmo Kramer To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] (no subject) X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cosmo Kramer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi list! I sent E-mails to 2 different people That didn't reply. I believe that many of my E-mails that I send out go to the 'spam' folder instead of the in box so that's why I'm making this post: =========== 1- From: Cosmo Kramer To: "dmericas@austin.rr.com" Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:45 AM Subject: Yellow Engine Fan Hi Don! I have one, but I'm on the Digest List so you may have received a reply already. If you want (& you haven't received a reply, yet), E-mail me & I'll go look for it up in my loft? -Cosmo Kramer ------------------------------- 2- From: Cosmo Kramer To: ""Joe Curry"" Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:28 AM Subject: Glob Decal- PLEASE Reply Hi Joe! I know you sell an 11" decal of the TRIUMPH Shield, but I was wondering if you had a "TRIUMPH" Globe large decal? If not, then do you have an image of this that you could E-mail me, in an attachment, that would give GOOD Detail Quality if blown up to a 24" diameter? -Cosmo Kramer =========== Would these two people, or anyone else that might be of help to me, please reply. TIA, & I'm sorry to bother the list. -Cosmo Kramer -Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 27 08:48:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 261822D060F for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:48:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp3.execulink.net (smtp3.execulink.net [69.63.44.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19962D05D7 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:46:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-3092.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([216.59.252.20] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1THFP3-0007xi-3Q for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:49:25 -0400 Message-ID: <5064677A.6050000@execulink.com> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:49:30 -0400 From: Angelo Graham User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Heat insulation material - installation X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello List: Just picked up some of the foil backed heat insulation to finish off the interior of my '2 project. The material is felt backed by a shiny aluminum foil. First and obvious question is which side goes "down". I have seen many cars with the insulation installed both ways, the foil side up - away from the heat source and others with the felt side toward the heat source. Having the foil side up makes for easier carpet installation as it is easier to glue on this surface. Any thoughts or experiences on this one? What about the floor pans? Should they be covered as well? Intend to cover the inside of the firewall, the trans tunnel. Any other areas that need attention? The '2 tends to have a bit hotter cockpit, as it does not have a scuttle vent. Thanks for any help. Angelo Graham ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 27 11:29:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D547C2D06BF for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:29:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout17.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout17.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.139]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D51E2D0689 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:29:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan16.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.16] helo=mailscan16.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout17.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1THHwu-0001Ct-Q9 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:32:32 -0400 Received: from impout01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.1] helo=impout01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan16.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1THHwu-0002Hd-DA; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:32:32 -0400 Received: from webmail12.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.16.12]) by impout01.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id 4HYY1k0020FcvPu01HYYM1; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:32:32 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IICA+3TG c=1 sm=1 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=Q7zus9ReCAYA:10 a=gTZP2DCGA9MA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=ObD0-6JFAAAA:8 a=QvyEbsGhqD4A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=UBeWovE3jXl84uSLY5EA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=QcFxcOnyDiYA:10 a=OTd7mDdtQPObUePB2dKGCw==:117 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.16.12 X-EN-IMPSID: 4HYY1k0020FcvPu01HYYM1 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=email.accountsupport.com) by webmail12.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1THHwU-0006r8-3E; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:32:06 -0400 Received: from 69.180.140.196 (SquirrelMail authenticated user greg@gelhar.com) by email.accountsupport.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:32:06 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1348705652.37322.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1348705652.37322.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:32:06 -0400 From: greg@gelhar.com To: "Gary Nafziger" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] control head "roller" ? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Gary, yes there is a spring behind, and a roller in front of the square brass piece. Let me know if you don't find the roller, I know I have some parts in a box around here. Greg G. Osseo, MN > Took apart the control head (tr-3)...........re-assembled............... > and > now can't make the lever stay ON when moved to the right or left. (when > moved > to right or left it flies back to center). > Should there be a "roller" or > spring loaded "ball" on the lower end of the turn signal lever? I notice > there is a square hole in the bottom of the lever which holds a spring and > I > also have a square shaped piece of brass that slides inside the square > hole > and over the spring. The tip of this square shaped brass piece has a > cross > cut depression which looks as it should hold something................. > I > might have lost? > > thanks > > gary n. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/greg@gelhar.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 27 12:47:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F492D0619 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:47:38 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm28-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.158]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E57C62D031E for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:47:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm28.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2012 18:50:38 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.251] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2012 18:50:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1043.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2012 18:50:38 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 347570.43480.bm@omp1043.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 9550 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Sep 2012 18:50:38 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348771838; bh=f1zTrcB0eJI2Zf8ayJ/H9KekOJuCkY4l8wcO9jU56LY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=INyHuLvjr4YvwSGvJmUjGJK9gT8rCLkc+bNehoj5igmqSN7BVreSRuw97S5O96kGa+EI2N8iBZpu09M5DOCH5UE1n3N3GqjK4TP6obz/zhLXnr35y41NYlNhRT4gRO2A93eYGTDbGRMOpx4ImqGmxbh2KpWxiaFj24y8JlLwnbg= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wNjtQTMKvaCqJATLzIQC0YxM6bvcjjjQs6SI9I81XWZs/0isegGPi8C05XZlUOUOMp0QDXkAbCqO/upGr8a5HNehdve/XR856mM9sWyt9ZasCPeVww7BkflI8ICHd/DIoV5eKnpChRZPsMgtc9ECrIHlSVYVqHFw+cu2u68eano=; X-YMail-OSG: lpWMo30VM1kLLxhDsQfVt8uzIMicGdBGQxknWnCYUGr4.6F 5FnS4lwQCxv0ov1GBFCv7Jeu212HJqJzBaS2Jtuwpb2TN7q0ivLWjhsw0M8O NJVhwfeqMAno6.dmm.DUgE.QPHK6eYd2uf_GdfXdZEcekeIvVYKiLyhq0IUa y87Wy4yhSwyXHbdiLQx0WJJYItshAL8PLFkMOmDtxPNvF6iSdIjJLX.ebLnp BVvd4Cd2cTG29e0TJxBevd1Fmt5IF8Qg.jKWWupWX4hy95ITuOMOePgKB1Of 3.OWAGabK75GEn1KlMQrDshGWiFJw1UkhYlFsBM1yx5wrXKHalSH.vDSPf2s QiD0LbSHx9Y0KQ_V3qRBAaVg9_EXFHwf62dmNFbXJffw3mPH.YFdb3LxFMlm 9.1Ib7O9PI46GONMU3WpgvlLV6NKQD19VeDCEr3VE.pIWrP_nz8Ts0FJk7fe mLLfIoZJxu4ntecdP_ssg Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:50:38 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.434 Message-ID: <1348771838.7635.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:50:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] control head "roller" and electrics X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Nafziger List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to all who responded to the control head "roller" quest. Daydreaming before falling to sleep last night I remembered cleaning out the control head with solvent and a toothbrush........dumping the remains into a coffee can. Today revisited the folgers can........dumped it and combed through the muck found the little "roller". OMG.........smaller than a Pea. One of those miracle days! But still having trouble getting lights to work...........nada on tail or headlights. (59 tr-3) Have re-checked all the dash switch connections and they seem in order but a strange thing happens. I can turn on the ignition switch and hit the starter and it turns starter as well as turns on the ignition warning light. After several times of switching on and off.............everything goes dead. no ignition warning light and no starter response................... although the starter does turn from the solenoid on the firewall. Motor will start and run...........but have no response with any of the other accessories such as head lights.....tail lights........wipers ect. Am wondering about control box. Have to admit complete idiocy in the electrical area.LOL gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 27 13:15:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8EFC2D0686 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:15:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout04.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout04.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B102A2D04AC for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:14:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan19.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.19] helo=mailscan19.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout04.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1THJaA-0002y9-03 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:17:10 -0400 Received: from impout01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.1] helo=impout01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan19.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1THJaA-0000P0-9L; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:17:10 -0400 Received: from webmail19.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.16.19]) by impout01.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id 4KH91k00U0Qgdlm01KH9Jz; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:17:10 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IICA+3TG c=1 sm=1 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=Q7zus9ReCAYA:10 a=2YA0tgB_ezYA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=ObD0-6JFAAAA:8 a=DjBwSjP9eDQA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=n_58DcrTyYx8BBAgeZEA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=QcFxcOnyDiYA:10 a=+q04f1seCllPdNopUQlMuA==:117 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.16.19 X-EN-IMPSID: 4KH91k00U0Qgdlm01KH9Jz Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=email.accountsupport.com) by webmail19.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1THJZD-0001IX-C1; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:16:11 -0400 Received: from 69.180.140.196 (SquirrelMail authenticated user greg@gelhar.com) by email.accountsupport.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:16:11 -0400 Message-ID: <18d322b631087bc2f7421ca8b6687d7f.squirrel@email.accountsupport.com> In-Reply-To: <1348771838.7635.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1348771838.7635.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:16:11 -0400 From: greg@gelhar.com To: "Gary Nafziger" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] control head "roller" and electrics X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Thanks to all who responded to the control head "roller" quest. > Daydreaming > before falling to sleep last night I remembered cleaning out the control > head > with solvent and a toothbrush........dumping the remains into a coffee > can. > Today revisited the folgers can........dumped it and combed through the > muck > found the little "roller". OMG.........smaller than a Pea. One of those > miracle days! I know. I went to look for one in my spare parts and had trouble not loosing it on the floor. > > But still having trouble getting lights to work...........nada > on tail or headlights. (59 tr-3) Have re-checked all the dash switch > connections and they seem in order but a strange thing happens. I can > turn on > the ignition switch and hit the starter and it turns starter as well as > turns > on the ignition warning light. That sounds normal as the generator has not yet begun to produce power. After several times of switching on and > off.............everything goes dead. no ignition warning light and no > starter response................... although the starter does turn from > the > solenoid on the firewall. > The power source for the lighting goes through the ammeter. I have seen where the ammeters fail and produce the symptoms you are experiencing. > Motor will start and run...........but have no > response with any of the other accessories such as head lights.....tail > lights........wipers ect. Am wondering about control box. Have to admit > complete idiocy in the electrical area.LOL > > gary n. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/greg@gelhar.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 27 14:52:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E382D03D2 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 14:52:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FC02D033F for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 14:52:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vcbfl17 with SMTP id fl17so3210398vcb.14 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:55:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UZcGB4/htLTEAmMZW2v2eIRMBG0dmODp0CYOf2mu3QA=; b=mnzs7UaxmgEl6whmKGnrBKJzScE3paYKlFkLfNn0F2Fa8/MSZnvr1hfFQgYVHSRrWK eV45/5RDx23IQ8NNMDeoAX4ooAtz3xV65zRs461TWCmcpbDqT4BBQeYWhiTsdNsDIKe9 xdeMBboaffJW+14njrAwdGSK7cwjUKb1PazEpBxw19Nu/RCwyygT1Ono59btyZ9oYzSj Q7tTatP6/4P8Iz/MN2IMJ2G+ztIvUPE/pd8DPEDEKiVe3gxsF97xSO+8Oj7WObZsya1f F5GU83IqAW+ns0fVEigK5kTwzclI9bK9ox2P2kQo8XxLZtYgQGZhoWXnoXkeB5Bis8++ wq2Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.247.137 with SMTP id mc9mr2827010vcb.52.1348779324229; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.232.6 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:55:23 -0700 Message-ID: From: Sujit Roy To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] 95% complete TR7 in picknpull on monterey road in san jose X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The head is in the trunk and looks like it was redone. There was no noticeable bore wear There looks like there is a diff rebuild kit in the trunk too. along with a 25(A)CR alternator. It's quite complete with AC the sanden commpressor was there as well. California car no rust what so ever. I took the expansion bottle from it. Interesting, the ones I've seen on other TR7 were metal, but this one looked like the Stags- plastic, with an extra reseroir attached to it via a pipe. Sad really. Sujit -- Sujit Roy, Realtor Cupertino, CA (408) 839-8359 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 27 15:39:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB5C52D0501 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:39:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE982D04AE for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:38:59 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=CfKKFcXl c=1 sm=0 a=2YA0tgB_ezYA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=DjBwSjP9eDQA:10 a=5oZyF1e2fCUSh66GsYMA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:52276] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 14/55-11767-C28C4605; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 21:42:05 +0000 Message-ID: <20120927214205.GYRMK.2058.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:42:04 -0400 From: To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , Gary Nafziger In-Reply-To: <1348771838.7635.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] control head "roller" and electrics X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sounds like multiple poor connections to me, and possibly some mis-wiring as well. > I can turn on > the ignition switch and hit the starter and it turns starter as well as turns > on the ignition warning light. The warning light should come on immediately after turning on the key, not wait until you hit the starter button. That's an easy one to work on, so I would probably solve that first. (The problem(s) you find may affect the other issues.) When the key is first turned on, one side of the light gets 12v from the ignition (white wire from ignition switch), while the other side is grounded through the generator (yellow wire from terminal D on the control box). Get out your test light or DMM and see which of those voltages is wrong. > After several times of switching on and > off.............everything goes dead. no ignition warning light and no > starter response................... although the starter does turn from the > solenoid on the firewall. Bad connection somewhere, obviously. Get to that state, then start probing along the circuit to the ignition switch. I would probably start at the two brown wires on the fuse block (which should both have 12v on them). Then the brown/white at terminal A on the control box, and brown/blue at terminal A1. If the NU wire has 12v but still no joy at the dash, then move under the dash and check out the two NU wires on the headlight switch. > Am wondering about control box. Although it may have problems as well, it should not affect any of the problems above. --- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 27 16:03:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B25B2D046A for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:03:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46C52D0416 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:01:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ool-18b8ba55.dyn.optonline.net [24.184.186.85]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MB100DL03Z1FAS0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:04:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:03:03 -0400 From: George Richardson In-reply-to: <5064677A.6050000@execulink.com> To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <5064CD17.4060103@key-men.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120927-0, 09/27/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: <5064677A.6050000@execulink.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 Subject: Re: [TR] Heat insulation material - installation X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Putting the foil towards the heat source prevents the felt from getting toasty. George Richardson Key Men - Keys for Classics www.key-men.com On 9/27/2012 10:49 AM, Angelo Graham wrote: > Hello List: > Just picked up some of the foil backed heat insulation to finish off > the interior of my '2 project. The material is felt backed by a shiny > aluminum foil. First and obvious question is which side goes "down". I > have seen many cars with the insulation installed both ways, the foil > side up - away from the heat source and others with the felt side > toward the heat source. Having the foil side up makes for easier > carpet installation as it is easier to glue on this surface. > Any thoughts or experiences on this one? > What about the floor pans? Should they be covered as well? Intend to > cover the inside of the firewall, the trans tunnel. Any other areas > that need attention? The '2 tends to have a bit hotter cockpit, as it > does not have a scuttle vent. > Thanks for any help. > Angelo Graham > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/gpr@key-men.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 27 20:33:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864E12D046F for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 20:33:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f169.google.com (mail-wi0-f169.google.com [209.85.212.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C5A2D03C0 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 20:33:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f169.google.com with SMTP id c10so111531wiw.2 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 19:36:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=3+1im3qgeQd4lg8zpQG0/xfPuepTTGRwbn6hrVSIo0E=; b=j/UAJWmB5wC+RQlwu25PK9yZ3WQyjfLm1cq/2IUDYvfFdQ6OZnlXiALBakUWv71rx3 TdkZXFEizWGtzlkw1QwZcCbuHfXs5jSAtkalAikLui1Qw5i9Re4IbOqnyJqgcs5jlMeC ZYazpOemoH/dZlD8jiPg8IqKQy0wT/qPvyVFv1FBEzwdS6uq1GTexpdC0zLCj9bs7sSh af9zWUe1l9N9tI52zzufTnkYl2CawlLh+WqrEY1+ZgzQ/3D7jzwxFs0cmnCNgZMepUnM lI4qZFiKxHnO7ox9hrdyoRNsuPgSnJFxWe2I/ZqpvFehWy/6h9S/GTYrTgPvMFAr4nSM c9gg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.107.163 with SMTP id hd3mr593118wib.19.1348799807249; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 19:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.154.144 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 19:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.154.144 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 19:36:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 22:36:46 -0400 Message-ID: From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Tr6 update X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net With the new job and everything, I have not posted in a while. So... i bought an awesome tr6 for a good price, but it's not so awesome.... I've removed a good 15 ft of wire from the harness (melted wire). The pertronix was wired wrong. 6v ballast not understood. Not sure if damaged- replaced with points. Weber carburetors looked awesome. Timing totally off. Corrected but runs like crap. but it runs. Huge clunk from the rear end when i shift into first. Jacked it up. Diff seems to have over 30 degrees of rotational play. Sooo..... Found the carbs would not balance. Engine just hunted around for an idle point. Pulled the filters and inserted the airflow meter. Balanced and no joy. Blocked off the front carb and engine dies. Blocked off rear carb and idle increases. Wierd. Intake leak? Hmm More tweaking. Then realization. Bending over and looking into the rear carb... omg. There musta been some hot fire there. The entire internals were once a hot molten mess. Total meltdown. Buyers remorse setting in. And i lost a deep well 9/16ths somewhere in the engine area (and it's not mine!) Ditched the Webers for zeniths. I rebuilt the ones from my buddy. Wow! Pulled the fuel line off the carb and it squirted. Crap. Another problem. The gastank vent is clogged. Now i understand. We were suffering from fuel starvation. Need to work in the vent. Today is good. Carbs rebuilt w/new shaft seals. Believe it or not, it started in the first click. Only got better. More to go, but feel i'm turning a corner. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 28 02:43:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689292D038A for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 02:43:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3642D035F for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 02:43:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H+ZZMpki c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=pPU9k1rOmD8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=a8i7LzU02gUA:10 a=vMD8acKRGRodHfOoEPUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 23/37-15382-5F365605; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 08:46:45 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Angelo Graham'" , References: <5064677A.6050000@execulink.com> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 01:47:36 -0700 Message-ID: <06a501cd9d55$e8ea42a0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <5064677A.6050000@execulink.com> Thread-Index: Ac2cv52TAw0pqDn0SrSxgLvzfbiuxQAlNVzQ Subject: Re: [TR] Heat insulation material - installation X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Putting it on the floor pans will definitely help with heat. However, mine isn't glued down, so I can pull it out when the carpet gets wet. I'm not convinced that it makes any difference at all, but mine is felt side down on the theory that the foil on top will help trap air inside the felt, which might possibly increase the R-value by some miniscule amount. > The '2 tends to have a bit hotter cockpit, as it does > not have a scuttle vent. Does anyone feel like the scuttle vent actually does anything? I've never been able to tell the difference. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 28 04:52:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD102D03AD for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 04:52:42 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44822D0385 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 04:52:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8SAtWET029629 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 06:55:32 -0400 Received: from core-moe001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.65]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4AB56E000088 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 06:55:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <69d8.706eb0cf.3d96dc23@cs.com> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 06:55:31 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [99.46.204.207] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1348829732; bh=K5y1CbORAmokvyssKerPm2/bD8HGXCYY3wsvQZFniLo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AtInv8GY3gZhkXJVvDjEAVBgzgAK99D32yej/vITIG38qmmdZgsi4Otpge/kM4tpS 53BmAg/aIfHSBx0kp2cpfdblXURT1vxJTw5QM4KTC9GoVQKN+ol0xH+mqz3ZIchQzK Ur8ObCHWgHRe4vi2jTUn5yYaNWKMojys8T6Xnw70= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:436107008:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b506582243aa8 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Heat insulation material - installation X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net When was the last time you drove with the top up and the side curtains installed? Seriously, even with the top up and the side curtains in the scuttle vent will introduce fresh air that will dilute the not so fresh air that leaks in from underneath through the various leak points in the fire wall, floorboards and transmission tunnel. As far as keeping you cool, forget it. Dave In a message dated 9/28/2012 3:47:00 AM Central Daylight Time, TR3driver@ca.rr.com writes: > Does anyone feel like the scuttle vent actually does anything? I've > never > been able to tell the difference. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 28 10:19:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381342D02DA for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:19:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D942D02D9 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:19:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 4cFv1k0050S2fkCAFgNRwA; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:22:25 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.85] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 4gNP1k00P4L5TyG8VgNQgY; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:22:25 +0000 Message-Id: <95ED1A9D-8BD7-458D-A0AF-B8CAC888F1DD@comcast.net> From: Bud Rolofson To: Randall In-Reply-To: <06a501cd9d55$e8ea42a0$0601a8c0@randall> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:22:23 -0600 References: <5064677A.6050000@execulink.com> <06a501cd9d55$e8ea42a0$0601a8c0@randall> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Heat insulation material - installation X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net When I've done long trips on hot summer days I've found the scuttle vent provides a lot of hot air so I shut it off. The design is such on a TR6 that it collects heat from the hot firewall and shoots it right into the cockpit. Not what you want when it's 104 degrees like trips to VTR99 in Portland Maine, and VTR2000 in Portland Oregon. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Sep 28, 2012, at 2:47 AM, Randall wrote: > Does anyone feel like the scuttle vent actually does anything? I've > never > been able to tell the difference. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 28 16:32:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6462C0BFF for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:32:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 948352D02A9 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:31:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.179] by nm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Sep 2012 22:34:50 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.163] by tm14.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Sep 2012 22:34:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Sep 2012 22:34:49 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 908024.29137.bm@omp1019.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 22743 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Sep 2012 22:34:49 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348871689; bh=1KRn9fJGtnGzycUKi/kuKipjJWxwthNMQ4Xyl9qnbso=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=g6DpBzAvBXhUkfMLmdqqAArys7TuZjtARC63V9Ttg5VPW5zi8lKzusOWZOiPmAmlfesZFAyehAKTSQJCfI0Ku4nbDvrrWCE4ABF2o1YqtVqfVJpCB5THO7Ajch7ePoT07SWvbma3OnyGeAI3jfUCoRCJI6cbEf1JjhkLpcmTPNM= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zTIq2sniYtpBuMngbpUnSmcHx4na6GSXIu4LxFNazRuG3+Uk1fLTmoXZwS1qPHcVUqRrxL4917lmfR20f5mKnIqK01lR/ji92NB59P3gzc1wH1khiKWVy69tpdH3d4CavA755q3zgSJLhvv2s4SUQx1n58p4fjoKETgOg9N/vLQ=; X-YMail-OSG: gMlZfAwVM1nyMVx4beBhNFqp_vhEG3JsqaY5YNQB4eHC_t6 4.U.VBvXUtgS62h4ECavCSqYvzpNEPTz21sUVHFcKDSBKMmsTA31r50mGyoK 6AdvBIOM8JBxfC_DYkNoDeW9SsQO4FARN8mqj8uPxiGqIOwmoPzCf2FUvm_p E34Mio7F610HxntxljPMrM_bYbwn665hFtmpkHuyTfyPYUuTz_Goh1ZcWvSV v6ftZUuU4G1ctLLg4g3j7G_ArroEAyG99B.ZdimT6_TidtQ0dWf0VYgEXG6c hudkGvYrq08RSpN0sK.27GmKocUte4k.NNEphAHW0JQ7QEhaTFPI8MPYVxui GqV9LwI71zbZbDs0yWpi89dotv6grq0dSnWQfBmoAWUVa6HfSd.ZcxrARG_W Ib7m3cUUM4lxjATVM0Wad1rJ5T_LsId6kOLOszK9PP5sm1wkWzd6ody2ctAt DD_OnXP_Xm0_Bl4gj__Ux Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 15:34:49 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.434 Message-ID: <1348871689.4008.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 15:34:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] "roller" electrics thanks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Nafziger List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Found the roller and all parts together and accounted for! Electrics problems is also on the way to a cure! Most frustrating part was intermittent failure of juice to lights and dash. Had good power at firewall starter solenoid. (tr-3). HOWEVER at the solenoid I was checking the power mostly at the nut and tip of the solenoid threaded connection. Closer to the solenoid body on the same threaded connector is another nut holding on the slide-on terminals. Accidently touching back in that area found no juice while there was juice on the outer nut and threaded portion. Took the solenoid off and completely stripped off all the nuts and connectors...........scoured off 53 years of grime and crap. The inner nut was so corroded and rusty it took a file and heavy sandpaper to clean up to shiny. All back together and I have good strong juice all the time. Sometimes I get it! Seem to still have some problems with lights but on jumping around switch find the lights work. Decided to order all new switches and think maybe 90 percent of problems will be solved. Thanks for all the help on electrics and control head!!! gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 28 17:37:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784002D027C for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:37:36 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54FB32D0272 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:37:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61182E01D for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:44:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <5066360F.1090701@bradakis.com> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:43:11 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Tarbaby Triumph, sort of X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net As some of you know I was a delivery driver for a local parts warehouse for a couple of years. One shop I visited on a daily basis had this red TR7 parked out front. It had been there a while the first time I stopped by, and was there for about a year and a half. Thankfully the place got rid of it, I was *so* *close* to hauling it home myself. And some of you know that this summer I was working at my friend's repair shop. He didn't really have enough work coming in to make it worth his while to keep me around, so we parted ways a while back. I go get my phone to give him a call, as the S10 needs emissions inspection. Lo and behold there's a message from him - he has a TR7 that needs some work. Sure enough, I head down there and there sits that TR7 that sat outside that Tunex for a couple of years. And boy, does it need work! I did manage to get it so it would sort of run and be driveable, will do some fine tuning once it gets back from the exhaust place. Unmuffled motors inside a building can be annoying. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 28 20:00:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40DC2D027A for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:00:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E662D0286 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:59:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by padfa10 with SMTP id fa10so3154858pad.14 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:02:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EP9NZVmA8GLNOUcW5S0Jsp1ZAHm1w3ORO7ZZ4S8SfDo=; b=iyyZDAOn8bhLEKLcIGsOcimNZzYixmMXeIWrNrXViNRmBFGFoiGU53OgUSE1MuHY5R C9WUCp3ZncjH+G6h1TrVZQyaRbPENuBYC+CXTb4ttnEjEFwlaCsROqAA5jYO5PdddlRR LTcuOipceYRR8MWBEeq/vaZuBSjjJTNsiw5tlOX4k6hkq7QkxDjE6xNHDxGQx5tC8HCv ++ueD39yNVNmoVYeWE+sSeNoU5y+baEqjhZQnFXQ/tm5++KDg17AX42NOuo3QmF3/ZaE lqojMl8NIAqy6PvDJdL7b5fNEHqe2g/2TtYVJBmGsdlTbaQzwBrDJqJNwi+szRlAYncl nHmA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.78.6 with SMTP id x6mr21454550paw.41.1348884166816; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.203.42 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 22:02:46 -0400 Message-ID: From: Benjamin Zwissler To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Troubleshooting HS6 Carb Issue X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I've got a new (to me at least) problem and I'm wondering if anyone has experienced it. After sitting over last winter my TR4A with HS6 carbs was running badly. It was stored with Sta-Bil in the gas, but after some troubleshooting I determined it was running lean and what fixed it was shooting some carb cleaner down the jet tube from the carb throat. I didn't think much of it after a winter of storage, but now for the third time this season I've had to do the same thing after not driving the car for 10-14 days. I generally drive the car pretty regularly, putting 1-2000 miles on it this year,but I was travelling for a week and then we've had rain (southern Indiana). There's about 5000 miles on the car since finishing restoration. Everything is stock, including the float valves (no Grose jets). I do use lead substitute in the fuel (no hardened valve seats installed and, yes, I regret that). The fuel tank was cleaned and sealed during the restoration and there's a fuel filter on the pump outlet side. I pulled the top off the float bowls while troubleshooting and found nothing unusual. I can now pull the top off the carb, remove the dashpot and shoot carb cleaner down the jet in less than 5 minutes, but I'd like to avoid this. I've never experienced this before, and I don't know whether to blame it on reformulated gas or what. Each time after shooting the carb cleaner its back to running perfectly. I'm planning to disassemble the carbs and check things out over the winter, but I'm wondering if if anyone's experienced this before. I'm hoping to find some explanation. Thanks, Ben Zwissler Columbus, IN bjzwissler@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 28 21:10:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C0F2D026A for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 21:10:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm22.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm22.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.92]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A72882D0269 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 21:10:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.63] by nm22.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Sep 2012 03:13:28 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.115] by tm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Sep 2012 03:13:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1020.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Sep 2012 03:13:28 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 159621.78488.bm@omp1020.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 45159 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2012 03:13:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=1VNYnFvmKVRZPI1spySTnnTIREwBA9bOlQ5/ySPZsgMMnNf7PPysVw37/fsOireAnLVaqdwKx0T6m5bDDj/vNQuWuf9yKMmwZFeODPTNzJ+4QqAS1IkV/FYq6xtXzcqXuulQDLfspnGdTyDUFpGeZOTusk0Gj9ZuV7ZYEanFSfg= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1348888408; bh=Hw4+YneKgKsKgvgeZZVeweX9gA0kJY8bNUntvN5rjXg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=oxVtn3DWsYaH0X6JMBJx31Xi/VY0+mYlLh3/B9RkuLIyVKSe/RBcvwStsXahn6bDDvw4JbRlhZoQpP0VQeJZD9QRqBFjunpWG/K74otceusAnCpBHsuXD4yVKoBkAmrMQHh11e0RSjBnblmcj/IYSoCrMZDBF/ZKs7WgcHE3S/I= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: hBk2Rp4VM1nYtlSFio4wpV3j4e4cn6DYuthlgwrltDK3op3 L0r5KtdBsKExHvBtZnKkzkguD0LqB1sWdZC.u9WirTWjXYMFN_OsIwBfBilF bF0DblwBhc4UeN_1YYjLYCuuMqHBqewHNezih2a5Y55NwHdZ6jSN9qEgrhYZ GSVeyjUtSp3v5Ngq5gNbCS5cKI4XkyaMgIhJ.C.hDjW4BZ9gtALy3r3RUkdv MYS3cFkv6WEHnUbgDo1OaKr7TTDp7Ng1H3Iqvewksc9lEEHPlR8Xbx_LWgS_ HVi1hKSypwOAVRy02uY5NiBxSptdsBAJgVa0J8Shoj25ESYJyKoCjGp2NH02 gQcKaBzHutZd7nPLx.JUZ4F7GPsIcAUccw5H33zzKuSb5EwzonengNXH8U1u oLBOR4fIpIY19tN03b9ncK2AbL49hvglmo46hgQxD08zhR5AFjgrztPmJSak V3GBYQ4FYgLtwsSl9zucVRkApSmkCshv7U0H9.ytYRkPL07UO4qLRgOZ9j6D JI_L7_J5CI44NGzhEsodHpPyyDRDOMB3e_rdjwpZBYO1WWws4KYek85QBOoh gKsauQukV5eWqSA.zOxNMMeksKgY- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2012 20:13:27 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Benjamin Zwissler'" , References: Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 22:13:30 -0500 Message-ID: <024AAE9A9C1B4020A400B960F40F916A@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2d5r872fCcWFz2QHWelpgnEPjJdQACQsUA Subject: Re: [TR] Troubleshooting HS6 Carb Issue X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Ben, Please define "running badly". Is missing? Real sluggish? Will rev through the RPM range? Have you drained and re-filled the gas tank with fresh fuel? Have you lifted and released the piston/slide to be sure it is travelling all the way up and down, with an audible 'clunk' when it hits bottom? Once you start and run, how long until is goes back to 'running badly'? Inquiring minds need to know, All the best, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Benjamin Zwissler Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 9:03 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Troubleshooting HS6 Carb Issue I've got a new (to me at least) problem and I'm wondering if anyone has experienced it. After sitting over last winter my TR4A with HS6 carbs was running badly. It was stored with Sta-Bil in the gas, but after some troubleshooting I determined it was running lean and what fixed it was shooting some carb cleaner down the jet tube from the carb throat. I didn't think much of it after a winter of storage, but now for the third time this season I've had to do the same thing after not driving the car for 10-14 days. I generally drive the car pretty regularly, putting 1-2000 miles on it this year,but I was travelling for a week and then we've had rain (southern Indiana). There's about 5000 miles on the car since finishing restoration. Everything is stock, including the float valves (no Grose jets). I do use lead substitute in the fuel (no hardened valve seats installed and, yes, I regret that). The fuel tank was cleaned and sealed during the restoration and there's a fuel filter on the pump outlet side. I pulled the top off the float bowls while troubleshooting and found nothing unusual. I can now pull the top off the carb, remove the dashpot and shoot carb cleaner down the jet in less than 5 minutes, but I'd like to avoid this. I've never experienced this before, and I don't know whether to blame it on reformulated gas or what. Each time after shooting the carb cleaner its back to running perfectly. I'm planning to disassemble the carbs and check things out over the winter, but I'm wondering if if anyone's experienced this before. I'm hoping to find some explanation. Thanks, Ben Zwissler Columbus, IN bjzwissler@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 29 08:03:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFEB2C0D04 for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 08:03:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CF52C0CBD for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 08:02:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so11759021ied.14 for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 07:06:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=7vGcNS5QDtdc07PF0yLQYZVCaytFwNy2+3KPgHyV18I=; b=Qm8lFJ9ji/iXS2gidikUblMivutgtqei9fx/+Lw1F0PZ0ur1nScskbVeq1nVikidNn n7tlBtZwNc2QjddCUwmJaB+Be2jMei6K+s9LMeioUTdqx49eVt+W4FfrXja71/zXxkR5 skXrzUXmodGRVwAltLezIFe8KtmQw192lSTJuiR8+DVYR8y1QWzxC7lL45qUjEUXZDVp mdffWtfDbG/XlYOiVcuwQ7Ae2gw9HlgJ9FqL5ZPrT2a31gC7AXE5QyoMzZ0STKMFPEsV +q4hTQDQILGZyTInwSEGX/kyvNAdUaCI5g/xK6O+aYZOP/GjUb+oH9EPq9n1sgag6dk4 ZnnA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.91.169 with SMTP id cf9mr1374449igb.44.1348927565429; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 07:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.213.73 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 07:06:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <024AAE9A9C1B4020A400B960F40F916A@bboffice> References: <024AAE9A9C1B4020A400B960F40F916A@bboffice> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 10:06:05 -0400 Message-ID: From: Benjamin Zwissler To: Wbeech X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Troubleshooting HS6 Carb Issue X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Symptoms are: Low power, missing, backfiring if you try to accelerate too hard. Won't drive at any speed without symptoms, will idle OK. Troubleshot ignition and fuel system the first time it happened until carb cleaner through jet solved it. Since then each time it occurs the carb cleaner in the jet solves it immediately. Scenario is: Works fine, leave it sit for a week or ten days, immediately has the problem on starting. After it happened following sitting over the winter its happened twice when left for shorter time in summer. Had a "mild" case a 3rd time, but that cleared itself with a little driving. Had the problem on several different tanks of fuel - each occurrence is separated by several hundred miles of travel. Carb pistons travel freely. Good spark and timing is OK. Ben..... On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Wbeech wrote: > Ben, > > Please define "running badly". > > Is missing? Real sluggish? Will rev through the RPM range? Have you > drained and re-filled the gas tank with fresh fuel? Have you lifted and > released the piston/slide to be sure it is travelling all the way up and > down, with an audible 'clunk' when it hits bottom? Once you start and run, > how long until is goes back to 'running badly'? > > Inquiring minds need to know, > All the best, > Bill > > Bill Beecher > '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" > '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" > www.triumphowners.com/1566 > '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" > "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" > M.Andretti > > > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Benjamin Zwissler > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 9:03 PM > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] Troubleshooting HS6 Carb Issue > > I've got a new (to me at least) problem and I'm wondering if anyone has > experienced it. After sitting over last winter my TR4A with HS6 carbs was > running badly. It was stored with Sta-Bil in the gas, but after some > troubleshooting I determined it was running lean and what fixed it was > shooting some carb cleaner down the jet tube from the carb throat. I > didn't > think much of it after a winter of storage, but now for the third time this > season I've had to do the same thing after not driving the car for 10-14 > days. I generally drive the car pretty regularly, putting 1-2000 miles on > it this year,but I was travelling for a week and then we've had rain > (southern Indiana). There's about 5000 miles on the car since finishing > restoration. Everything is stock, including the float valves (no Grose > jets). I do use lead substitute in the fuel (no hardened valve seats > installed and, yes, I regret that). The fuel tank was cleaned and sealed > during the restoration and there's a fuel filter on the pump outlet side. > I pulled the top off the float bowls while troubleshooting and found > nothing unusual. > > I can now pull the top off the carb, remove the dashpot and shoot carb > cleaner down the jet in less than 5 minutes, but I'd like to avoid this. > I've never experienced this before, and I don't know whether to blame it > on > reformulated gas or what. Each time after shooting the carb cleaner its > back to running perfectly. I'm planning to disassemble the carbs and check > things out over the winter, but I'm wondering if if anyone's experienced > this before. I'm hoping to find some explanation. > > Thanks, Ben Zwissler > Columbus, IN > bjzwissler@gmail.com > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 29 12:42:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E8C2D021C for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 12:42:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm29-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm29-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.189]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 363DD2D0222 for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 12:41:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm29.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Sep 2012 18:44:54 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.122] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Sep 2012 18:44:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1027.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Sep 2012 18:44:54 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 777483.92039.bm@omp1027.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 97715 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2012 18:44:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1348944294; bh=rAbepHY/pOwsHNPYx4/Ee/r8o10t1mAZ51Rx6HnL830=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XzeSfoYMxB7tnSP+7dJJrqeHvVlQjeBtYE6x6No2vAR3W8VjUTFE740bpahZhGdMEhTXysMVgdayn0JGC/Z66J7xV18r8bvnQ/sndwwY+j+ZfWZt8EY+M8vejBArNOnLJdvZbZjwMyTP/dMFSwFNAURcfOxghS9vJOqVRfNJjBs= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: _ILr7qoVM1lCuJW29U6szH10uW7VS3Pm2nyoueNw1UdW9tP 8fIlfZgOfUEw76MeYWu93QQm2rbDoyQCsYeE3hxkoi3f4y4UlNcVu8jg6Wcm S9qV2igie4dkgn98wPx0pFqeqQT_juxNLJ8mB6SGp.5zrPFxkriUG5ltDRZ. kC6VH9seGzOqtnCEJZbz.OfZLz5vbLIDxgqxas9KSsYdSIt_J8ffIfhiKqSL R.0i_vMS4lxgzkTNo18bsjDo0nFA2KuxN1M5u2Dwh3EgkIvnKHfS4c_jxw1x RBtCkNFYJOLVz53r1scVqAcCyX.Uv6H2TcwycHhlXz508TMyb.tCPPPzbWLA _BJ2cvCNK0IYxIvKDz9EPru25iD_63eysAd.zL6ZJIwATHsANNh7pbjPrS.2 NX8t4.uNY98Oba87EAhy5k4ii00CLZXwyOCgt.x0lHDJhL9VjRQDLE1E2th9 ImierqFN6BxS8AQ_bNivr X-Yahoo-SMTP: PYcW0q.swBA6AWX4qqt.Obiv1MByZ4cLLWa_f53dXw-- Received: from [192.168.2.2] (hdrider570@75.36.243.71 with plain) by smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2012 11:44:54 -0700 PDT Message-ID: <506741A3.8020206@att.net> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 11:44:51 -0700 From: "hdrider570@att.net" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Troubleshooting HS6 Carb Issue X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I had a similar problem with a TR4. It was one of the float valves sticking closed. The easy cure is to tap the top of the float chamber with the handle end of a screw driver. Near as I can figure it was cause by minute partials of rust mixing with the lead substitute gumming up the valves if they dried out from sitting. The problem eventually cured itself just through driving a lot. I expect it finally flushed all the partials out. If this is your problem my guess is that removing the top of the carb shakes it up enough to free the needle valve. Edward Hamer Petaluma CA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 30 06:13:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B70F2D018E for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 06:13:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC902D016A for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 06:12:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.137]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8UCG3SP022239 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 08:16:03 -0400 Received: from core-mob005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.209]) by mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 52AEEE000085 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 08:16:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <4daf.32873b9.3d999202@cs.com> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 08:16:02 -0400 (EDT) To: Triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [99.46.204.207] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1349007363; bh=yxeyyelcd6uT54+so/arb92iK2IlVDqBpdfyvTkq6Jk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CO9xmebeSO3uE9ighogY6hnK+cIRLAL/7iiW//zUO+zWkEZwLbGu+bwDVcK4NcyMf ULSdO9qJTqgJThgm7Rjflg34/y51TK4xZ2c6MkE6vtt9mqDmlV0Azlo4xyyTWL4jQh DKDCkaGGrHpS/0sNDfS7X+FwPBmokgkMhzuMWRxY= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:453888608:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33895068380367bf X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Tarbaby Triumph, sort of X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The best of both worlds. You get to work on it and someone else pays for it! Dave In a message dated 9/28/2012 6:40:34 PM Central Daylight Time, mark@bradakis.com writes: > Sure enough, I head down there and there sits that TR7 that sat outside > that Tunex ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 30 15:05:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927B72C0D4D for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 15:05:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE582C0B91 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 15:02:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120930210520.KLXX12025.mta21.charter.net@imp09> for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:05:20 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.136.73]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id 5Z5K1k00P1bBNls05Z5KcU; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:05:20 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=nlrKf9u5uG3fs/vD0VBbL3/xzyN25p4t1WHsSeqasGo= c=1 sm=1 a=FB6NmUnAAagA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:17 a=nNCpAA_kAAAA:8 a=mcRBRwHI70d98iU3ZxcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Ly7T8cNnvzwA:10 a=KJtlaox2dmYozKYRj7gA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:117 Message-ID: <5068B413.80308@charter.net> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:05:23 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: *Triumphs List X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120930-1, 09/30/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Clutch shaft questions X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Some time back, I read (in several places) about using a TR3 clutch shaft in a TR6 to gain the advantage of greasable bushings. Sounded like a good idea... Here's the page from Buckeye Triumphs about the swap: http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/clutch/ClutchShaft/ClutchShaft.htm "The earlier shaft can be used without the locating bolt in the TR250 and TR6 to provide a means to grease the bushes." So, I changed the shaft. And then I put the transmission in the car. So far, so good. But, when I went to hook up the slave cylinder, the push rod would not align. It's offset by the width of the yoke. It fits perfectly if it's pinned to the side of the lever instead of over it. Anybody done this switch, that can advise me where I went wrong? (Other than believing something I read on teh Interwebs, anyway) I still have the old shaft, and it's in good shape. Barring any other advice, I'll slip the transmission back and replace the new shaft with the old one. *sigh* I'd rather be driving... Also, while reading up on this, I discovered there's supposed to be a spring on the shaft? Important? Magic? Will any simple spring do? TIA, Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 30 22:58:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6142C0D31 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 22:58:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA6E2C0D28 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 22:58:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=CfKKFcXl c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=SzOiK5bckxMA:10 a=T2mMrc-i2mxb_ccUwDAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id AA/47-11767-2B329605; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 05:01:39 +0000 From: "Randall" To: Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 22:02:34 -0700 Message-ID: <094b01cd9f91$f8535ea0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2fkffo2XLCfyV+QdmNMR/T1WkjzQ== Subject: [TR] 10Si alternator application X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Folks, I'm trying to help someone that wants to do the venerable GM 10Si alternator conversion on a TR4. He would like to know a specific GM application for the donor alternator (to get the right terminal orientation, etc). Anyone know offhand? -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 1 13:59:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65E972D026B for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 13:59:36 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from tx2outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (tx2ehsobe004.messaging.microsoft.com [65.55.88.14]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1F852D0220 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 13:59:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail11-tx2-R.bigfish.com (10.9.14.250) by TX2EHSOBE003.bigfish.com (10.9.40.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 20:02:17 +0000 Received: from mail11-tx2 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail11-tx2-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76F9C320128 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 20:02:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:134.226.1.156; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:imx2.tcd.ie; RD:imx2.tcd.ie; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: -1 X-BigFish: VPS-1(zz14ffIzz1202hzzz2dh668h839h944hd25hf0ah107ah1220h1155h) Received: from mail11-tx2 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail11-tx2 (MessageSwitch) id 1346529734929158_6246; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 20:02:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from TX2EHSMHS032.bigfish.com (unknown [10.9.14.246]) by mail11-tx2.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFA282A0046 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 20:02:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imx2.tcd.ie (134.226.1.156) by TX2EHSMHS032.bigfish.com (10.9.99.132) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 20:02:13 +0000 Received: from Vams.imx2 (imx2.tcd.ie [134.226.1.156]) by imx2.tcd.ie (Postfix) with SMTP id 98DFB68004 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:02:12 +0100 (IST) Received: from imx2.tcd.ie ([134.226.1.156]) by imx2.tcd.ie ([134.226.1.156]) with SMTP (gateway) id A049D3952C2; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 21:02:12 +0100 Received: from go.tcd.ie (winehub1.college.tcd.ie [134.226.252.14]) by imx2.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9266768004 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:02:12 +0100 (IST) Received: from GOMAIL.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.68]) by winehub1.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.14]) with mapi; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:01:48 +0100 From: John Gillis To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 21:01:47 +0100 Thread-Topic: leaky H4 Thread-Index: AQHNiHydpBdouD2XA0W+nArFw44vmQ== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-IE acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiVirus-Status: MessageID = A149D3952C2 X-AntiVirus-Status: Host: imx2.tcd.ie X-AntiVirus-Status: Action Taken: X-AntiVirus-Status: NONE X-AntiVirus-Status: Checked by TCD Vexira. (version=1.60.5 VDF=10.130.61) X-OriginatorOrg: tcd.ie Subject: [TR] leaky H4 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello all - Still smiling with TR2 driving, but eager to improve the little things; The rear carb is leaving some fuel behind after a run, and on inspection it is leaking out through the choke. I took out the jet and bearings, I changed those little cork sealing washers and the larger cork washer. Put it all back together and centered the jet and other bits, but it started leaking straight away while sitting in the garage! Is there any pre prep of the cork, soaking in oil etc. I am guessing the lower cork washer and copper cupped washer is the exit point for the leak. HELP! Regards John ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 1 14:05:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0233C2D0357 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 14:05:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm9-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E0D902D024A for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 14:05:37 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.66] by nm9.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2012 20:08:26 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.102] by tm6.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2012 20:08:26 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 01 Sep 2012 20:08:26 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 219362.14405.bm@omp1007.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 63661 invoked from network); 1 Sep 2012 20:08:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=JozVUvW9kKKTs6Av5pNWt5sRjHs+UhuZpcu9ny31MaeCpGPmea3OUPCRjQ5vMYsNgCkFtNmTTvZh9Y7wX/EdfgKkK5SQXshkIYaHbksWmQ617HMd8BwIjavvsheVsdgAkDNkKev/Oc0FBLEInfV6ks47y6SFBqyuIGAUWKqZQ6c= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1346530106; bh=59DWFR1ba4pm2pXiU4lnAiYjOSwuRy0rYcR6W/S9OnU=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:References:In-Reply-To:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=R+tR+O+OMcnC/mok0kXap+1k7151KWsYDOyOGWZOkQ5Iysck6rOKSQtWToMG4ylArEHTVlx7rb4NTUzGp+tmPqgef111YZFUthLzFSls8PrO5s7C5N/n2lXxwo4o7sesQIDZds/0reJ+RCXAX86dEJUdAC3odRz1SNjBPYbnrRU= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 9xgviWQVM1kspI14JSECly0ak_vMnq23gqqvoJLc.c6CAsS 8Qv2TdKqv1113GABLRc6g9brW97StjE45vU6bkYwJYDwyMAOjlj6LSzIt3T5 fieUNT2JY6u1QUjMj5QzgcWX8K1m0ceLOnBYbSTkYFHnDA0pVFWCax1NsOpD Kl4KveTo5QnNsHx1I6StfviMNzZjY5USy0M6au9Gb3oDnVkXpX7B4BmR1KF. BgnYChVGqh48SXd_a7eLVnQIzm4yr8ETQdmoI5Cni2d5GS0c7XHTNOeBxWsy NaU4KfixY7T0wieA1Ty_S3l_usiEzNxLLGhU39Ay7pACjkRzzspHFqYLeMr3 BQzZ8XPh29Ipwy7dRNA4OwpTueg5IjJtAjMbUMv8Af6vnZxRw11QSnMwZmpX QoFGeWrNZf.lFEIcViXBgNxfeogYgE8r_q7ftrdgDD5nFFcu9LctTOf_._oK WFGorEwPXCtX7zCNhHzUYQc7Uc2rP9yD3iddEtaULt93iAJWSCLyWSQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from [10.77.197.216] (wbeech@166.133.85.133 with plain) by smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 01 Sep 2012 13:08:24 -0700 PDT References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: <961B4FB3-CBFE-477B-AFB1-C0C9AEC953E5@flash.net> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (9B206) From: Wbeech Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 15:09:35 -0500 To: John Gillis Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] leaky H4 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net How old are your cork bits? Soak in clean motor oil for 24hrs, and give another try. All the best, Bill Sent from mobile Bill On Sep 1, 2012, at 3:01 PM, John Gillis wrote: > Hello all - Still smiling with TR2 driving, but eager to improve the little > things; The rear carb is leaving some fuel behind after a run, and on > inspection it is leaking out through the choke. I took out the jet and > bearings, I changed those little cork sealing washers and the larger cork > washer. Put it all back together and centered the jet and other bits, but it > started leaking straight away while sitting in the garage! Is there any pre > prep of the cork, soaking in oil etc. I am guessing the lower cork washer and > copper cupped washer is the exit point for the leak. HELP! > Regards > John > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 1 14:29:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CF5F2D0331 for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 14:29:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout08.yourhostingaccount.com (mail18.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.234]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF002D01FA for ; Sat, 1 Sep 2012 14:27:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan12.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.12] helo=mailscan12.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout08.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1T7uL6-00058e-46 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 16:30:44 -0400 Received: from impout01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.1] helo=impout01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan12.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1T7uL5-00055k-Qg; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 16:30:43 -0400 Received: from authsmtp03.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.3]) by impout01.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id twWj1j00403yUm201wWjpf; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 16:30:43 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=I97ntacg c=1 sm=1 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=UWBKU8OG_3kA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=DI1Vc-o8Y1wA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=8-LIcuxjasgA:10 a=01gmS7Lsn71a3f7kL38A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=maIvl2Yd+fJND/e85XqkCw==:117 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.3 X-EN-IMPSID: twWj1j00403yUm201wWjpf Received: from c-69-180-140-196.hsd1.mn.comcast.net ([69.180.140.196] helo=triumph) by authsmtp03.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1T7uL1-0006bk-6E; Sat, 01 Sep 2012 16:30:39 -0400 Message-ID: <153BABFD51F34009AEEB6AD4EDFC3CB1@triumph> From: "Greg Gelhar" To: "John Gillis" , References: Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 15:30:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-EN-UserInfo: e42cf78691180d9d9fd0715a4121692b:575ebd0ae47b8b6522b84cd16b3b758d X-EN-AuthUser: greg@gelhar.com X-EN-OrigIP: 69.180.140.196 X-EN-OrigHost: c-69-180-140-196.hsd1.mn.comcast.net Subject: Re: [TR] leaky H4 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Inspect your jet assembly. I recently found a carburetor leaking fuel at the clevis at the bottom of the jet. There must not be any looseness where the jet tube and clevis join together. The cork gaskets should be immersed in light oil for a day before assembly. Greg G. Osseo, MN Subject: [TR] leaky H4 > Hello all - Still smiling with TR2 driving, but eager to improve the > little > things; The rear carb is leaving some fuel behind after a run, and on > inspection it is leaking out through the choke. I took out the jet and > bearings, I changed those little cork sealing washers and the larger cork > washer. Put it all back together and centered the jet and other bits, but > it > started leaking straight away while sitting in the garage! Is there any > pre > prep of the cork, soaking in oil etc. I am guessing the lower cork washer > and > copper cupped washer is the exit point for the leak. HELP! > Regards > John ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 2 12:13:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 474AF2D079E for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 12:13:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from am1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (am1ehsobe005.messaging.microsoft.com [213.199.154.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2F7A2D06B1 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 11:32:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail9-am1-R.bigfish.com (10.3.201.253) by AM1EHSOBE003.bigfish.com (10.3.204.23) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 17:34:54 +0000 Received: from mail9-am1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail9-am1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8C9C0107 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 17:34:54 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:134.226.17.160; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:imx1.tcd.ie; RD:imx1.tcd.ie; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: 0 X-BigFish: VPS0(zzzz1202hzzz2dh668h839h944hd25hf0ah107ah1220h1155h) Received: from mail9-am1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail9-am1 (MessageSwitch) id 1346607292612408_8139; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 17:34:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from AM1EHSMHS001.bigfish.com (unknown [10.3.201.254]) by mail9-am1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 895A8480045 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 17:34:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imx1.tcd.ie (134.226.17.160) by AM1EHSMHS001.bigfish.com (10.3.207.101) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 17:34:52 +0000 Received: from go.tcd.ie (winehub2.college.tcd.ie [134.226.252.15]) by imx1.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44B064820 for ; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 18:34:52 +0100 (IST) Received: from GOMAIL.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.68]) by winehub2.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.15]) with mapi; Sun, 2 Sep 2012 18:34:24 +0100 From: John Gillis To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 18:29:28 +0100 Thread-Topic: Leaky H4 and U tube Thread-Index: AQHNiTExRJdKxSZS+Ueip0ZCZDBiig== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-IE acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: tcd.ie Subject: [TR] Leaky H4 and U tube X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks all for the advice, this combined with a guy called John Twist from University Motors on U Tube did the job, soaked my cork gaskets and re centered the jet, dry as a bone. Although I do think I will follow up on Randal's advice and get myself neoprene replacements. Regards John 1954 TR2 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 3 11:54:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7432C0C9A for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 11:54:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E65902D02A3; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 10:55:32 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=hIQEzcqoWCHFFh15SZd8NdsyAZNQYYbrJcxZ4yhV9wRl5BJpkFFQbQyvKFRva60N; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [69.81.21.129] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1T8ZyJ-0002zs-4W; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 12:57:59 -0400 Message-ID: <5044E18E.8000900@rmi.net> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2012 11:57:50 -0500 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120806 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumphs@autox.team.net, Spitfires X-ELNK-Trace: 007d46394eab33d9f572e6f2f00780416f45d880beb16ab4a9b92c07d9ff6e56a7ce0e8f8d31aa3f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.81.21.129 Subject: [TR] Spitfire Seat Back X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All, I was on my way to a car show in Kansas City Saturday and all of a sudden the seat back in my 80 Spitfire reclined way back. The seat back catch just doesn't catch. I took the seat out of the car and pulled the upholstery up far enough that I can see the seat catch mechanism, but I still can't tell for sure how it works (too much is hidden by the frame). The frame is not broken. Has anyone else experienced this? I don't know if TR6s would use the same type of mechanism. Any way to fix it without finding a replacement seat frame? Thanks, Roger Elliott 1980 Spitfire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 3 16:49:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFAE72D048B for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 16:49:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from m1plsmtpa01-06.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-06.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.34]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73EA42D06BD; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 16:20:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.194.8.216]) by m1plsmtpa01-06.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id umNd1j0034ffsQe01mNdZJ; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 15:22:39 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: , <6pack@autox.team.net> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:22:35 -0400 Message-ID: <016401cd8a22$a16081b0$e4218510$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2KImSjPKvkLd0pRb6vppyjEoHeZQ== Content-Language: en-us Subject: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net OK, so what is the combined wisdom of the lists when it comes to rotating radials? Some claim once a radial is used on, say, the driver's side it cannot be moved to the passenger - so "rotating" means front-to-rear and vice versa. Others poo-poo this restriction and say "rotate away!" What do Triumph owners say? And let's not have the obvious answer, " Radial? What's a radial?" !! Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 3 17:28:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCC592D07AD for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 17:28:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FAC2C0AAD for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 17:05:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=9a5EnwHPxT8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=edbRMbyu2CEA:10 a=IgJQkZpLxAkA:10 a=IPal7lhA7vYA:10 a=xq9wGUVIARYA:10 a=taDAVOZGq94A:10 a=_Sq6j1Tl7_8A:10 a=6MLTsBQSgpMA:10 a=vbwBmGMnX_oA:10 a=XXMwYsRVBM0A:10 a=ckwzGmrgXAgA:10 a=xmXxWTgvEPcA:10 a=EkEIUSM5vUQA:10 a=-Pp9UJKR8aHvdM9IbiAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id C6/B4-28917-E5835405; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:08:15 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" , References: <016401cd8a22$a16081b0$e4218510$@uprichard.net> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 16:08:23 -0700 Message-ID: <046701cd8a29$04b845d0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <016401cd8a22$a16081b0$e4218510$@uprichard.net> Thread-Index: Ac2KImSjPKvkLd0pRb6vppyjEoHeZQABnsQQ Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > OK, so what is the combined wisdom of the lists when it comes > to rotating radials? I rotate mine regularly. In fact, I just got back from several thousand rotations. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 3 18:20:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD7802D0760 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:20:30 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE3742D05F7 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 17:36:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ukqk1j0020FhH24A3nf8gA; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:39:08 +0000 Received: from sz0119.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id unf81j0042xZMJ48Unf8c4; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 23:39:08 +0000 Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 23:39:07 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: Andrew Uprichard Message-ID: <2002753029.1321577.1346715547943.JavaMail.root@sz0119a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <016401cd8a22$a16081b0$e4218510$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:69.180.154.189] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - SAF3 (Mac)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net In the early days of Radials, that was true, but not now, except for tires with unidirectional tread patterns. Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk http://www.mnautox.com ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Andrew Uprichard" > To: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net > Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 5:22:35 PM > Subject: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres > OK, so what is the combined wisdom of the lists when it comes to > rotating > radials? > > Some claim once a radial is used on, say, the driver's side it cannot > be > moved to the passenger - so "rotating" means front-to-rear and vice > versa. > Others poo-poo this restriction and say "rotate away!" > > What do Triumph owners say? And let's not have the obvious answer, " > Radial? What's a radial?" !! > > Andrew Uprichard > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 3 18:25:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353612D083C for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:25:52 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9642D01C9 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 17:41:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.10]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q83NhYDx012392; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:43:34 -0400 Received: from core-ddd001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-ddd001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.52.193]) by mtaomg-ma03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 77F30E000081; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:43:34 -0400 (EDT) From: McGaheyRx@aol.com Message-ID: <304c.3f6033ae.3d769aa5@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:43:34 -0400 (EDT) To: TR3driver@ca.rr.com, auprichard@uprichard.net, triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.7 sub 19 X-Originating-IP: [166.248.64.253] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1346715814; bh=dAkIJ7b5cxXzIft38cJ4bTua9/e1smcyDOZNq43dY/w=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gRjuLXtBEhppISAdDHgBwedcTTXQa0ySpghlHvFOJbzA/kR9yd9u8/XfNrN8jWzr9 23udiDPa4haYiAmofYN8zHOtzgybBwZTQ/+VbpFWPkCSqH+GuFtOfFB1y4RvkamZvh GVZn2PlMFpoVGY7PUj9IjWhpzwyXzu50C/UhXeIc= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:466150880:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290a504540a66926 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net In a message dated 9/3/2012 7:31:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, TR3driver@ca.rr.com writes: I rotate mine regularly. In fact, I just got back from several thousand rotations. wow - don't know what size tires you have, but at 700 to 900 rotations per mile, you didn't go very far on several thousand rotations, did you? Cheers, Jack Mc ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 3 18:59:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DC642D0715 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:59:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm3.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.136.218.190]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 96B6E2D06BB for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:35:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.137.12.174] by nm12.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2012 00:38:42 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.97] by tm13.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2012 00:38:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Sep 2012 00:38:42 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 202610.31699.bm@omp1002.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 93122 invoked from network); 4 Sep 2012 00:38:42 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To; b=iD+Koghbal1nI32W5OmZcrqID6F7Dn8GALNquGMtUwc1YFIzX+Zt/auUfkDcmhDXhleoArkAo26hAjGaceJ/bnHfthUln5oqWXD123SSFXxz5BtFdG/LokNoFT9obdGSY10NHS1GxGHN3ZnHiGKCy8tHMfl+vF/nM2HROdbRmg4= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1346719122; bh=y2qckeoiEpD4kp98t4bhBtnCg5RH+CRlF2WbjoW94k4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To; b=upjC3CftPUTk22kyo9tweFdakSPYY7UEEY16H6m2FUPqZcXEHMEh5pYmsed35PT4VswGymx0ofo2nQiEm2vZVbh0UX9ToWp1LcXXf09Dy26pFxkzntYoOfukIbfLaek/FLz4wqGnQFLt7+Kv79vKnKspLKsAgC49RKw0KabsAeo= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: VvP5e94VM1mHCJg5xXDA46RoZi6_kxAEd6OgqxjM4AhPnDK EWGEnd0.I0DLED5YZ0Ej7RLjDbt9bO64v0H8OoamBfJ2jfEv8tC1zLg0aTrT eC.eSLLIZYROqgO90HDEVrDqiYNvkkdq6Od3m7HGOjW08F7xMYrNfyM3lqhR qqEWkpIDSCIcOQsnft18BlUJu1ZXK0gmc.ErD9Fiy95_AVkJ7GA7TaXTPJVi zFa0wXF43a1yAbs38L3.w2BSoYEfRpts.YDWXoLcpp2BK9PDWgYyMIJMqMSv 3FzBhDIYfZt2DD9a8Q_acSQn4wsGkTrcvuuu97FU.VHuTlavPqfaSLnsW1zg jogyOqWI_R2vo6JN6TwbqeB8HXWFU.AvYzGjWCH17ZHsTLXwQTzXeJSsg4Ru PLTpfse9dbYVTCuldED0IdW7vbbs_BzXaDuRPwUDOp2FZb7zMyeqZ3dE.gcx dMuxn1rFpyU5BVB.cxJ7NOqlClbICbstOXNYmPR19v9Tl3.TlrE._HdTQ7yf H7sqCFko_VCYRuYDADqEe1GAQW5YMYK43w0bFBPpGGZJ7uP75PV79PBMCSg- - X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Sep 2012 17:38:41 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" , , <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <016401cd8a22$a16081b0$e4218510$@uprichard.net> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:38:49 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2KImSjPKvkLd0pRb6vppyjEoHeZQAEiyoA In-Reply-To: <016401cd8a22$a16081b0$e4218510$@uprichard.net> Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I only rotate front-to-back-to-front, my Ford dealer rotates my detroitmobile tires in the crossing pattern RF-to-LR; LR-to-LF; LF-to-RR; RR-to RF Never had a failure or odd wear pattern either way. I think my front-to-back method may be old school based on older radial recommendation. Of course, if you are running a directional tread pattern you can only rotate front-to-back, BTDT paid the price. Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Uprichard Sent: Monday, September 03, 2012 5:23 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net; 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres OK, so what is the combined wisdom of the lists when it comes to rotating radials? Some claim once a radial is used on, say, the driver's side it cannot be moved to the passenger - so "rotating" means front-to-rear and vice versa. Others poo-poo this restriction and say "rotate away!" What do Triumph owners say? And let's not have the obvious answer, " Radial? What's a radial?" !! Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 3 20:14:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6862D02C3 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 20:14:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5FC62C0CE0 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:31:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Dp/UCRD+ c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=9a5EnwHPxT8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=edbRMbyu2CEA:10 a=IgJQkZpLxAkA:10 a=IPal7lhA7vYA:10 a=xq9wGUVIARYA:10 a=taDAVOZGq94A:10 a=_Sq6j1Tl7_8A:10 a=6MLTsBQSgpMA:10 a=vbwBmGMnX_oA:10 a=XXMwYsRVBM0A:10 a=ckwzGmrgXAgA:10 a=xmXxWTgvEPcA:10 a=EkEIUSM5vUQA:10 a=USDnH-KvIzxxz4USqrUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id F5/3F-13948-A7A55405; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 01:33:47 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: <304c.3f6033ae.3d769aa5@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 18:33:55 -0700 Message-ID: <04d101cd8a3d$597ffa90$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <304c.3f6033ae.3d769aa5@aol.com> Thread-Index: Ac2KLh6Xma3lrl+uQFG4uuZjHqFQeAADxhtQ Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > wow - don't know what size tires you have, but at 700 to 900 > rotations per mile, you didn't go very far on several > thousand rotations, did you? Nope, just ran over to the store for some odds & ends. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 3 20:24:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6232D06F2 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 20:24:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from m1plsmtpa01-05.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (m1plsmtpa01-05.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5C662D06BE; Mon, 3 Sep 2012 19:35:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Spitfire ([76.184.166.234]) by m1plsmtpa01-05.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with id upe41j00953lu5001pe5CP; Mon, 03 Sep 2012 18:38:05 -0700 Message-ID: <6EAE05E6C933401BB7AAE6C45DC33CFA@Spitfire> From: "Dave" To: , <6pack@autox.team.net> References: <016401cd8a22$a16081b0$e4218510$@uprichard.net> In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 20:37:55 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net my daughter has a 350z - the front and rears are different sizes, so no rotation at all!!!! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 06:14:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848F62D06BB for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 06:14:28 -0600 (MDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: autox.team.net mailing list memberships reminder From: mailman-owner@autox.team.net To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net X-No-Archive: yes Message-ID: Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 05:03:59 -0600 Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: mailman@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 List-Id: X-List-Administrivia: yes Errors-To: mailman-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: mailman-bounces@autox.team.net This is a reminder, sent out once a month, about your autox.team.net mailing list memberships. 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I recently noticed some wear on the outside edge of the right front tire on my '76 TR6 so I decided to rotate as I usually do, front to rear to front. However, upon further inspection, I could not help but notice that both right side tires, front AND rear, were decidedly more worn across the whole tire (not just the edge) than the left side tires. How exactly does this happen? The right sides are nearly shot while the lefts look fine. Tires are Vredestein Sprint Classics and have about 25,000 miles on them. Any ideas? Dennis Culligan, Highland NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 15:58:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A182D0C50 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 15:58:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from devils.ext.ti.com (devils.ext.ti.com [198.47.26.153]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1799B2D0AC5 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:32:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from dlelxv30.itg.ti.com ([172.17.2.17]) by devils.ext.ti.com (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id q84KYw6u032441 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 15:34:58 -0500 Received: from DFLE72.ent.ti.com (dfle72.ent.ti.com [128.247.5.109]) by dlelxv30.itg.ti.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q84KYw4V004209 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 15:34:58 -0500 Received: from DLEE08.ent.ti.com ([fe80::8145:89a6:94e5:8cad]) by DFLE72.ent.ti.com ([fe80::5c48:b90d:af93:5822%30]) with mapi id 14.01.0323.003; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 15:34:58 -0500 From: "Fisher, Ed" To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Thread-Topic: rotating tires Thread-Index: Ac2K3L62B94Xp35CTz+yXOfLRzvnjg== Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 20:34:57 +0000 Message-ID: <67A276399E247245AC2050FC103C4E8A3ECD653C@DLEE08.ent.ti.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [128.247.5.50] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] rotating tires X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I usually rotate my non-directional radials front to back, same side. However, last time I rotated the drive wheels straight back, and the non-drive wheels across front to back. Since this was on a front wheel drive car, RF went to RR. LF went to LR. RR went to LF. LR went to RF. I saw it on a tire website. No difference noted in the last 3k miles or so. Ed Fisher Dallas, Tx ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 16:49:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E61F2D0B5A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:49:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from snt0-omc1-s47.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc1-s47.snt0.hotmail.com [65.54.61.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF1EE2D099E for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 15:18:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from SNT123-W18 ([65.55.90.7]) by snt0-omc1-s47.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:21:05 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [192.17.24.108] From: Rich White To: TR owners List Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:21:05 -0500 In-Reply-To: <003b01cd8ad8$617af6f0$2470e4d0$@net> References: <003b01cd8ad8$617af6f0$2470e4d0$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Sep 2012 21:21:05.0756 (UTC) FILETIME=[319351C0:01CD8AE3] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Too many two wheel turns? Rich White Central, IL USA '63 TR3B TCF###L That ain't a scrap pile, that is my car! > Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:03:41 -0400 > From: dctr6@optonline.net > To: triumphs@autox.team.net; 6pack@autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] Rotating tyres > > While we're talking about tires. I recently noticed some wear on the > outside edge of the > > right front tire on my '76 TR6 so I decided to rotate as I usually do, front > to rear to front. > > However, upon further inspection, I could not help but notice that both > right side tires, front > > AND rear, were decidedly more worn across the whole tire (not just the edge) > than the left > > side tires. How exactly does this happen? The right sides are nearly shot > while the lefts look > > fine. Tires are Vredestein Sprint Classics and have about 25,000 miles on > them. Any ideas? > > Dennis Culligan, Highland NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/rlwhitetr3b@hotmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 16:54:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CECA32D06F1 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:54:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (fed1rmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F11742D09DF for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 15:22:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo305 ([68.230.241.173]) by fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120904212451.ELNI9100.fed1rmfepo103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo305> for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 17:24:51 -0400 Received: from Vista ([70.190.241.231]) by fed1rmimpo305 with cox id v9Qq1j00Z50Fepi019QqFT; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 17:24:51 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A02020A.504671A3.002D,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=HKFB5/Rv c=1 sm=1 a=YXrDTWBbwbeLZAQKZEP30w==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=upjS20HUMssA:10 a=IgJQkZpLxAkA:10 a=IPal7lhA7vYA:10 a=1e4LJyNPphAA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=7SONEmrQLxCsDRuIskkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=4vB-4DCPJfMA:10 a=YXrDTWBbwbeLZAQKZEP30w==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: "'Dennis Culligan'" , References: <003b01cd8ad8$617af6f0$2470e4d0$@net> In-Reply-To: <003b01cd8ad8$617af6f0$2470e4d0$@net> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 14:24:59 -0700 Message-ID: <60678502F6D7473AB1545AF1DCD1EDAD@Vista> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2K2GE9CHXwlOrtTliWnVFFi1JZggAC0ZJw Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Turn left occasionally! :) Joe -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dennis Culligan Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 1:04 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net; 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Rotating tyres While we're talking about tires. I recently noticed some wear on the outside edge of the right front tire on my '76 TR6 so I decided to rotate as I usually do, front to rear to front. However, upon further inspection, I could not help but notice that both right side tires, front AND rear, were decidedly more worn across the whole tire (not just the edge) than the left side tires. How exactly does this happen? The right sides are nearly shot while the lefts look fine. Tires are Vredestein Sprint Classics and have about 25,000 miles on them. Any ideas? Dennis Culligan, Highland NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spitlist@cox.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 17:38:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D47C2D0C0A for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 17:38:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D72E2D0B3F for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 16:24:54 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=upjS20HUMssA:10 a=IgJQkZpLxAkA:10 a=IPal7lhA7vYA:10 a=1e4LJyNPphAA:10 a=xRfjoxBpAAAA:8 a=Hv2iM9hTwSkT8sp4PXQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=bgAgzZxQv2QA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:47148] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 19/19-17657-85086405; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 22:27:36 +0000 Message-ID: <20120904222736.KGA72.233239.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 18:27:36 -0400 From: To: Dennis Culligan , triumphs@autox.team.net In-Reply-To: <003b01cd8ad8$617af6f0$2470e4d0$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Dennis Culligan wrote: > However, upon further inspection, I could not help but notice that both > right side tires, front AND rear, were decidedly more worn across the whole tire (not just the edge) > than the left side tires. How exactly does this happen? This points up one of the reasons I am resistant to shuffling tires around. If you had let them be, you would know without doubt which corner had a problem. Now all you know is that either the RF or the RR has a problem, maybe both of them. The main point of rotating tires appears to be so the tire company can sell you 4 tires at a time, rather than just one or two. --- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 19:06:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73BC22D0AAD for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 19:06:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 733902D0B0B for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 18:04:34 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=bzXMDwBQOFpHfbXQ1R3SXNACLbj5+bUoICEqsuGFJFhqDyXW8GfJ0Wp4LIQpZeVi; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [69.81.21.129] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1T9396-0000cW-3a for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 20:07:04 -0400 Message-ID: <504697BA.4060001@rmi.net> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 19:07:22 -0500 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120806 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-ELNK-Trace: 007d46394eab33d9f572e6f2f0078041d9b3544428a0625af56d208e90217d00350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.81.21.129 Subject: [TR] charging sytem X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi All, About a week ago I replaced my battery that was about 7 years old - I figured it had served long enough. It was an inexpensive battery to start with. I replaced it in part because my voltmeter was reading low and the tach and overdrive would quit working at times. In the back of my mind I new it probably was more than the battery even though it happened mainly at lower speeds. Well the voltmeter is still reading between 12 and 13 (both gauge and VOM). So I put a new alternator on it. Well, it is still reading about 12 volts. I did clean the battery terminals. Any suggestions on what I should look at next? Thanks Roger Elliott 1980 Spitfire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 20:14:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CA82D0C3B for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 20:14:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCBB2D0B27 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 18:51:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wgbed3 with SMTP id ed3so4402116wgb.20 for ; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 17:53:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=tYp7sl1cPUq3/ekD3Y/9IFtrpw/6TDAcM2zCIPuDau4=; b=pFG1K1NJ5BiENvtXDJZllkk4PetMMqktfPWRt0Cn5X+tJt2cxiKGgvEvdkqLn0IQPt s+VLXiFL9gJVxaWnJ5TNQ41jl6ILqWOOkB6IIvBbox5ZfOZX1mKZAUWSzLt3SkT98z5L 6hswRi/wzNfAEdLdPLjIXKC4GsTDEtOsa9VNYPv+m76Gk4yfWXqnXPhcSG63LpJZEdSP Icx3GQaE+Wu+tLsiPoCDoZjN/tKOfjoFrjoZV18zt9mOsSysRX0kBuSqkqoIYpVDUUIU RKxbnldRuRy/H9TzwbZNZtDRGCg73ymHQRABem3MS0JvJTAMjWzaoHI3XMuN53ZH2fEu zivw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.228.130 with SMTP id f2mr12112529weq.7.1346806411701; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 17:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.197.149 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 17:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.197.149 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 17:53:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 20:53:31 -0400 Message-ID: From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] New lift followed me home X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net A rusty vehicle lift followed me home today. Its a qp-6000 quick lift. The new tr6 seems to ride it just fine. It picked up my truck just fine. It looks very rough and there is rustoleum in its future. It fits the six just great and hits the frame fully. Now to see how it works with the 4 and the 2. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 20:17:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D26A2D0C8D for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 20:17:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173009pub.verizon.net (vms173009pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.9]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD6B12D0843 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 19:15:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vms170027pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.3]) by vms173009.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0M9U00DCWRM7I7I2@vms173009.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 20:18:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 71.127.35.140 ([71.127.35.140]) by vms170027 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 20:18:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 20:18:07 -0500 (CDT) From: thenicholls@verizon.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <6326555.1726703.1346807887194.JavaMail.root@vms170027> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Verizon Webmail X-Originating-IP: [71.127.35.140] Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Never rotated tires on any of my vehicles including my 72 TR6 for the reasons Randall cited below. Craig On 09/04/12, tr3driver@ca.rr.com wrote: ---- Dennis Culligan wrote: > However, upon further inspection, I could not help but notice that both > right side tires, front AND rear, were decidedly more worn across the whole tire (not just the edge) > than the left side tires. How exactly does this happen? This points up one of the reasons I am resistant to shuffling tires around. If you had let them be, you would know without doubt which corner had a problem. Now all you know is that either the RF or the RR has a problem, maybe both of them. The main point of rotating tires appears to be so the tire company can sell you 4 tires at a time, rather than just one or two. --- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/thenicholls@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 20:18:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FB1C2D0D86 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 20:18:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96B0E2D08DF for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 19:22:17 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=JShBOoQwrAj+pDNWU1T2IxvrsPF+89Jh0YJ9GTH1miaCCwUla80pRfhoLlzt/Ar0; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [69.81.21.129] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1T94MN-0008Kn-2o for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 21:24:51 -0400 Message-ID: <5046A9F5.8020004@rmi.net> Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2012 20:25:09 -0500 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120806 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <504697BA.4060001@rmi.net> In-Reply-To: <504697BA.4060001@rmi.net> X-ELNK-Trace: 007d46394eab33d9f572e6f2f0078041ff468f87cc1db932de8dd7e68c9d1e08667c3043c0873f7e350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.81.21.129 Subject: Re: [TR] charging sytem X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net New question: is there a coating somewhere on the alternator that would prevent it from operating until it is worn off? I just checked again and now with the brights on and the heater fan on high the gauge in the car is reading over 13 and a reading between the alternator and the battery is 14.2 at just above idle. So I guess it is working. Roger > Well the voltmeter is still reading between 12 and 13 (both gauge and > VOM). So I put a new alternator on it. Well, it is still reading > about 12 volts. > > I did clean the battery terminals. > > Any suggestions on what I should look at next? > > Thanks > Roger Elliott > 1980 Spitfire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 20:57:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0408A2D0D40 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 20:57:09 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from que31.charter.net (que31.charter.net [209.225.8.23]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 785BC2D08CB for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 19:43:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120905013227.OTNP10966.mta11.charter.net@imp09>; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 21:32:27 -0400 Received: from Desktop ([96.32.2.169]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id vDYQ1j00H3enFnk05DYTQJ; Tue, 04 Sep 2012 21:32:27 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=nlrKf9u5uG3fs/vD0VBbL3/xzyN25p4t1WHsSeqasGo= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:17 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=S5PPE3vcK5pd_skfsjkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:117 From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" To: "'Roger Elliott'" , References: <504697BA.4060001@rmi.net> In-Reply-To: <504697BA.4060001@rmi.net> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 21:32:22 -0400 Message-ID: <000601cd8b06$4c03e240$e40ba6c0$@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQGqKcDyiHRUNkfWErrCDxntJBXiIZfBt6YQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] charging sytem X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Check to make sure that the body is well grounded. There is often a bonding strap that connects the engine block to the body. Those straps often disintegrate with age. Also, look for voltage drops along the insulated circuit that feeds all of the accessories. With heater fan on, lights on, and anything else that can be turned on, there should be no more than about 0.2 volts drop from the insulated battery post to each of the accessory items. Alex Thomson -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roger Elliott Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 8:07 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] charging sytem Hi All, About a week ago I replaced my battery that was about 7 years old - I figured it had served long enough. It was an inexpensive battery to start with. I replaced it in part because my voltmeter was reading low and the tach and overdrive would quit working at times. In the back of my mind I new it probably was more than the battery even though it happened mainly at lower speeds. Well the voltmeter is still reading between 12 and 13 (both gauge and VOM). So I put a new alternator on it. Well, it is still reading about 12 volts. I did clean the battery terminals. Any suggestions on what I should look at next? Thanks Roger Elliott 1980 Spitfire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/aljlthomson@charter.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 4 23:33:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F982D0911 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 23:33:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.66]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 228232D0B57 for ; Tue, 4 Sep 2012 22:40:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2012 04:42:39 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.121] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2012 04:42:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1026.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2012 04:42:39 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 832850.63906.bm@omp1026.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 24460 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2012 04:42:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=DTGphmovrBiNXodkTIKy8Mg4/b1r7Rj43Gj9Mz+5QHdT3kNQOnqZRBPUh6jgDO/enU+7WtcbXCZO/zvaIUiqqJpUjmrQeVl0GG6DeNbmNLbjsuyV+N1+Ft9joeM1bT+Mp3HJlgrhZEc4hrKLQI1X3ANU9qwHIa7UKxyuYLFy7RM= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1346820159; bh=s+Zv8iJdu5AMGyeV6RHXgb1lM14IOyiLSu78KPlnfts=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=aj9xb3QoYrxOEHreVj0azjV7fwo0Ra29i5OF+6Nn98vvVulsq3gVFf2lZPm0G4wK90g2P2DFq0m8jQSARWTG30eiPGA6Qwf65O5b8OHwuCOrllsSLf+CznwSB0mFoFyc8fOI+sMH3xV+mloilPTLOTMgAg5AIiIHWtcEZMWzAOc= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: b8IWnYkVM1niSQ49PYVVH9XQxld8M3gDD583XfzoRtoNuF5 WVc0XJyevpJCiZeCWclgymJawzwsWkgL4CryiCeuvB83azGViBu7zzirCznJ xE0dCs3lJTT0y2QqyXFOEuwjHkXRRU.y0Um4WF0BCP6UMSCWikaeCOTh16TB ynpFKwLk.kWwX1jn8Ml_PN39YlllnCMuZSjasJCheNJlxCBSHdClPxJBtFKF sWFGIm6AX0pAIEXUQiVUNttqP_yNtAfVOp0LMW.oj4us11yjK9hBc0P3PxRE 0eXIZmjXs7JIQc4_ZZuwI319bwyDjLf_sgfdpiT5giGa2Vhum2LoJ0AxOW5d bHN0zf.26y8PdTlccbUPBh9zWui8JY6zd0R5QIf4jalKkSAVIulC1oTG2FL_ m6s1d9kgL1Z1_DBCnSPUGZ0mXvFFYAq7T2akLeo0YRfxLjbs56g6LG6PetAt iAkANRNtnP53rOgLddbcUwotTNNqRMTixhcyIBnoGidnjr8VsvdIs.S2.wbN EVe9jUUFR X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Sep 2012 21:42:39 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Chris Simo'" , "'list Triumph'" References: Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2012 23:42:43 -0500 Message-ID: <9605E2C757774C799D43A93D25D961ED@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2LDREFV8MFlV4XSJaL3wMmtN4P7gAEvltA In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] New lift followed me home X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Congratulations, if you see any more strays out there give a call and I will help you round them up. B -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris Simo Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 7:54 PM To: list Triumph Subject: [TR] New lift followed me home A rusty vehicle lift followed me home today. Its a qp-6000 quick lift. The new tr6 seems to ride it just fine. It picked up my truck just fine. It looks very rough and there is rustoleum in its future. It fits the six just great and hits the frame fully. Now to see how it works with the 4 and the 2. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 5 06:44:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDF7D2D0B32 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 06:44:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FB742D0812 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 05:43:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.76]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q85BkHlc026675; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 07:46:17 -0400 Received: from core-moe001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.65]) by mtaomg-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0DB0AE000089; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 07:46:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <3b49b.4a469f17.3d789588@cs.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 07:46:16 -0400 (EDT) To: ccsimonsen@gmail.com, triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1346845577; bh=Sw6Du8S6GVGURSgs/f2tlHFIvm8VKwf9rVxS/wDBhQw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=c8Ap2XjMEvGkSMDpPtaK5gJ4VbfEZeEMKyy7Mgl6nzBLEnh6Pg5qg5j43AajTd32H 0a+5Ln5ggFbw+iXMB8mD1JwmZnbr3EDwLfnZ8CQNBGhO4nOKI/dur9kEEAoyodFOVF ltcim4fM1mpmx3Y1EtP6329g6qJgBIpWLjdU6JNY= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:371373536:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294c50473b89020a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] New lift followed me home X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Cheese! You're just living right. One problem, though. Three cars but only one lift. Dave In a message dated 9/4/2012 9:18:03 PM Central Daylight Time, ccsimonsen@gmail.com writes: > A rusty vehicle lift followed me home today. Its a qp-6000 quick lift. > The > new tr6 seems to ride it just fine. > > It picked up my truck just fine. It looks very rough and there is > rustoleum in its future. > > It fits the six just great and hits the frame fully. Now to see how it > works with the 4 and the 2. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 5 06:51:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3691C2D0196 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 06:51:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A483B2D08EA for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 06:06:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.139]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q85C9U4A007455 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 08:09:30 -0400 Received: from core-moe001c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.65]) by mtaomg-da03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 5C7F0E000087 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 08:09:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <3bc30.343d536b.3d789afa@cs.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 08:09:30 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1346846970; bh=vCCYPAQ18RQ+avU4FHwjbS3myD8XsEULK8JyX6xDPZY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vWgD3ZlDhUXMsvN+iZ9nlLz+/NSRbqMj3J3gReba1nTdap0Gw54lYpNzTEBYUaMzI dH6XGZ9/iQnDu/e1zCHNMiVDI083+oihdlthEPtJRoL1QeUS61yqrL+q2ZKmvm/s+l DmI5Hkidcx4FMdfaMLLPo6hjeyAes7XuOuaBbZ9w= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:327483424:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338b504740fa60b6 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] charging sytem X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The big brown wire from the alternator plugs into the battery cable along with some other brown wires. These other wires feed the electrical system. After 32 years these contacts can get a bit corroded and stop conducting electricity. If the alternator wire stops making good contact your battery will not charge even if the alternator is good. Unplug and replug these wires to clean off the terminals. Apply some dielectric grease to prevent further corrosion. Easy stuff. Dave In a message dated 9/4/2012 9:21:56 PM Central Daylight Time, elliottr@rmi.net writes: > New question: is there a coating somewhere on the alternator that would > prevent it from operating until it is worn off? > > I just checked again and now with the brights on and the heater fan on > high the gauge in the car is reading over 13 and a reading between the > alternator and the battery is 14.2 at just above idle. > > So I guess it is working. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 5 07:44:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C59B72D0C5D for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 07:44:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa01-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.86]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A4C0F2D0AF5 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 06:30:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 13133 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2012 12:32:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.194.12.73) by p3plsmtpa01-06.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.86) with ESMTP; 05 Sep 2012 12:32:57 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: , <6pack@autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 08:32:59 -0400 Message-ID: <003a01cd8b62$96918ef0$c3b4acd0$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2LYpWCB4y8y2OuQJqyFPNSq9zAng== Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to all who replied individually and to the list. Always insightful ! Andrew -----Original Message----- From: 6pack-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:6pack-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of EdB Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 10:28 PM To: Dennis Culligan; triumphs@autox.team.net; 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [6pack] Rotating tyres Dennis: My own observations also show the right rear tire wears more, particularly on a rear wheel drive car or truck. I had a flat tire recently on my Toyota truck RR tire, and was shocked to see the amount of tire wear in 31,000 miles. It was obvious that the left rear tire was not worn nearly as much. I was thinking of buying a tire tread gauge so I could take measurements of the tread on each of my tires. The only explanation I have for this difference in wear is that the rotational torque of the driveline puts more force on the right hand rear tire. When you accelerate hard, the first wheel to squeal or peel is the right tire. And I know that I often accelerate a little bit hard while driving around in the city. I cannot explain why your front right tire surface would wear more than the left tire except you may do more left hand turns under power where the vehicle weight shifts to the right tire. The outside edge tire wear is usually a symptom of hard cornering, which is at least half the fun of driving a British sports car. Ed Bratt Regina, Saskatchewan 1976 TR6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Culligan" To: ; <6pack@autox.team.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 2:03 PM Subject: [6pack] Rotating tyres > While we're talking about tires. I recently noticed some wear on the > outside edge of the > > right front tire on my '76 TR6 so I decided to rotate as I usually do, > front > to rear to front. > > However, upon further inspection, I could not help but notice that both > right side tires, front > > AND rear, were decidedly more worn across the whole tire (not just the > edge) > than the left > > side tires. How exactly does this happen? The right sides are nearly shot > while the lefts look > > fine. Tires are Vredestein Sprint Classics and have about 25,000 miles on > them. Any ideas? > > Dennis Culligan, Highland NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U > > ________________________________________ > > 6pack@autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/bratt@sasktel.net > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virus Database: 2437/5249 - Release Date: 09/04/12 ________________________________________ 6pack@autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/6pack/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 5 08:02:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E2982D0D8B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 08:02:38 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm35-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm35-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E78872D0943 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 06:36:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2012 12:38:57 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.253] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2012 12:38:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1045.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 05 Sep 2012 12:38:57 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 374888.21371.bm@omp1045.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 35308 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Sep 2012 12:38:57 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1346848737; bh=MpyKRBlRr29x1osWEcGlFm/K0S3I+XbbDQdyZ9Nj1/c=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kyvpG946EZFcfwi6E8xDiGBRVn5AXidvJ1m3zyfYO2ff+GXWotLo4NjfBfG3aKk2gQRaMbfUFlklKKl7ll0XDUGtXXfKWwLJVQZEmiorAQMOJYRRQRrypnfx/3tsugzheZfGfHNm6nqxIwNB66UpMFtVvSjPVjWlK4EkpVRF3Vc= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=q7Gdeq/EUdYwqbn/BDWsSnbLPQjhEi4kDlhPQy6QS+mp/AoRal8SYnFh6zNvjoSTcrVQdkRJ9ffcBLZdv/hS2995eOOEkbG38aBNmMsBeGIkY2d86TOfGz/1QA+nqwhVeOdV1l5LSIym6ioptklvqyVfMyHMg70En7b4kNj2i5c=; X-YMail-OSG: ZNf.BIsVM1mAxWa1mks3EtOrzqqtscxd.Rh84avOp28hna. sOJZcGkAIHGaJEhIXX.4fX_khULdeoPhf17eAdvwWNymOYZE2hp1FrnG9Ne7 hJW7piPDd53FEk4mO7Z6yrpxc8krQmuf1WHEaonq3SBhN69lwfRWgSCYl3mH dTd8VnsvVvGUnT_FocOOBcPlSvBQZMx1m.x3ajIFsrgVh7.fxFR1ppPB5iTk VcgmR.RRH5dR4oWLa7qgjL2b3eVLv0FiwIRzs2fe9p3uCHvmrnqAcbkv3PEO czfm.QBHsJydAG6CLN7tMJpBCCmK8g_B8zAR5JwgrS2PbUgFNUwPEEJaFZod ZY_Ebg.dWOJk6B6h76Q42iBrMGdv5DFVEqwQ289eX_OnnhCCMjwHg3ldD_r1 blD_qao0JYfCh8vNe63.EdXmz7nkvP.Q7z1uf9rrjQ9uYS6fvos1syThlmZD i5YT3nneRVCYc Received: from [108.17.41.115] by web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 05:38:56 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1346848736.23315.YahooMailNeo@web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 05:38:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Cosmo Kramer To: "Triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Tyre rotation X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cosmo Kramer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi List! ------- Message: 7 Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 20:37:55 -0500 From: "Dave" To: , <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres my daughter has a 350z - the front and rears are different sizes, so no rotation at all!!!! ------------- Dave, what do you do for carrying a spare tyre? Do you carry one small (dough-nut) tyre, or two (One of each size? This was one of the biggest reasons the I didn't peddle with two different size wheels on my bicycle, because I had to carry at lease one of each size tyre & tube. Back to the main topic's thread about how (direction) to rotate tyres: I go the conventional way of rotating radial tyres (front to rear & vise versa). I don't have directional tyres on the Garage Queen (TR4A), but on my other cars I do (so I'm in that habit now & I don't see any reason to change it.). This way, when I see tyre wear, I com-pair wheels to known that it's either the front or the rear of that one side to correct when going into for wheel alignment. I also rotate around 3,333 miles when I do the Oil & Filter change & lube the entire car, along with other maintenance (waxing the under carriage, etc.) at that mile marker. Is that to often in rotating? -Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 5 13:18:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44D082D0773 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 13:18:58 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth22.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth22.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.44]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 9EB102D08C1 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 11:37:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 25876 invoked from network); 5 Sep 2012 17:40:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (216.138.90.252) by smtpauth22.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.44) with ESMTP; 05 Sep 2012 17:40:15 -0000 Message-ID: <38DC8D91332E4AB5B1B4B76BAE4B3488@Spitfire> From: "Dave" To: References: <1346848736.23315.YahooMailNeo@web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1346848736.23315.YahooMailNeo@web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 12:38:02 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] Tyre rotation X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net she carries just one spare - the wheels are the same bolt pattern, so it doesn't matter. and, btw, she had a flat recently and really tried to change it herself. but she couldn't get the lugs off so she ended up calling me. since then I have gotten her a wrench extender -----Original Message----- From: Cosmo Kramer Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 7:38 AM To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Tyre rotation Hi List! ------- Message: 7 Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2012 20:37:55 -0500 From: "Dave" To: , <6pack@autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating radial tires/tyres my daughter has a 350z - the front and rears are different sizes, so no rotation at all!!!! ------------- Dave, what do you do for carrying a spare tyre? Do you carry one small (dough-nut) tyre, or two (One of each size? This was one of the biggest reasons the I didn't peddle with two different size wheels on my bicycle, because I had to carry at lease one of each size tyre & tube. Back to the ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 5 15:23:52 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2163B2C08FC for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 15:23:52 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from gateway09.websitewelcome.com (gateway09.websitewelcome.com [67.18.16.73]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A6212D0B43 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 14:11:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: by gateway09.websitewelcome.com (Postfix, from userid 507) id F0F965E7E3C4; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 15:14:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gator52.hostgator.com (gator52.hostgator.com [184.173.194.222]) by gateway09.websitewelcome.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18185E7E377 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 15:14:12 -0500 (CDT) Received: from leexray by gator52.hostgator.com with local (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1T9LzI-0003NY-TV for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 15:14:12 -0500 Received: from 208.87.137.231 ([208.87.137.231]) (proxying for 208.23.240.1) (SquirrelMail authenticated user lee@automate-it.com) by www.automate-it.com with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 15:14:12 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <8CF24758AAFF7BD-FA4-193FD@webmail-d146.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CF24758AAFF7BD-FA4-193FD@webmail-d146.sysops.aol.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 15:14:12 -0500 From: "Lee Daniels" To: triumphs@autox.team.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - gator52.hostgator.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - autox.team.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32208 500] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - automate-it.com X-BWhitelist: no X-Source: /var/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php X-Source-Args: /var/cpanel/3rdparty/bin/php /usr/local/cpanel/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src/compose.php X-Source-Dir: :/base/3rdparty/squirrelmail/src X-Source-Auth: leexray X-Email-Count: 1 X-Source-Cap: bGVleHJheTtsZWV4cmF5O2dhdG9yNTIuaG9zdGdhdG9yLmNvbQ== Subject: [TR] Triumph service bulletins formerly at "little mac shop"? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Not too long ago someone was hosting a good selection of Triumph service bulletins; the URL that I saved was: http://www.thelittlemacshop.com/trsite/bulletins.html but that link is now dead. In fact the site appears to be gone with the exception of http://www.thelittlemacshop.com/ - but it's obviously nothing related. BUT note at the bottom of the page the remnant of a link labelled "Triumph list member area". Anyone know if these are still available? Triumphs Only still has a nice selection here: http://www.triumphsonly.com/pages/main/techinfo.html Lee ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 5 19:46:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4822D09F9 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 19:46:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA71D2D098D for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 18:22:37 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=EkXOgFFK6EYDkNRlZMqQOnJtPyPjMGqbhKchkzfVG7TmAHKOrS3V65HhOYddG01Y; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [69.81.21.129] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1T9Pu5-000302-SH; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:25:05 -0400 Message-ID: <5047ED74.3070602@rmi.net> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2012 19:25:24 -0500 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120806 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex & Janet Thomson References: <504697BA.4060001@rmi.net> <000601cd8b06$4c03e240$e40ba6c0$@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <000601cd8b06$4c03e240$e40ba6c0$@charter.net> X-ELNK-Trace: 007d46394eab33d9f572e6f2f0078041f23bd7a34486b3d4875838e10db30ed2a2d4e88014a4647c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.81.21.129 Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] charging sytem X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks everyone for the suggestions! Roger Elliott On 09/04/2012 08:32 PM, Alex & Janet Thomson wrote: > Check to make sure that the body is well grounded. ... > > Alex Thomson > > -----Original Message----- > > Subject: [TR] charging sytem > > Hi All, > > > Any suggestions on what I should look at next? > > Thanks > Roger Elliott > 1980 Spitfire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 5 20:55:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0CFD2D09E2 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 20:55:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm9-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm9-vm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.90.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1EDF32D0A60 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 19:09:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.55] by nm9.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Sep 2012 01:12:41 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.248] by tm8.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Sep 2012 01:12:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1040.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 06 Sep 2012 01:12:41 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 49338.61765.bm@omp1040.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 91229 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Sep 2012 01:12:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1346893960; bh=ueYq06HFfNH6Bgb3YR8ZJSFo+Xc4fkgVQ+bQ779kp9g=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SMQru+S1oh31u4dCC3+OrR1iZbZp+/8oplMSt6fpPuCJFMtRC30kUzjPsRWAuCu83QkD2A/2/PV+Y34DqgaqVqLRWGBNvlvKqKmsheF7wGPBQIHzH7u4VR3o+8AxkSq6marYZ9Oam3Mw+sOKpYiMnuX3/p+S0uLBrVXDshAgvxU= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LT7FaSrWGYGjrIYMKrbGoHt8RujVm52aXdVmeEEtvuNaLn4m8OLRS/ZMPKbTgoyiMztpL5iDLRNHW+HIOPHH8c2ADzjCYIRP5wuuRbSsno+8TKQJVaDVaUAOgh1Lzsm3n82PXwagSIQpNbKHwtwg+7q66IMezTCiXbJi6pX/C5U=; X-YMail-OSG: HpEgC5EVM1noGM5nRhn3imC5fwy1QY6NbcCYsl8BDvJO3bj 4rNzeTBGR.rWmRtXNYgCgE8AEm_.ciQ_ywL5HzkfrsraKC1_wscFarqmnm3A _wxauzsBPF9iZosMMxZe35rOVEnUZwnfU.FrcY4Yz47pqcGRmTBqmy_VqOzp aKjeR2I7lJ1KDl5Sz3qh_s5CI2zn6SzaCu7IDrIJpPBZwpgPhUg3o22_MlG2 1bdjVnEn4tsUz3OBAPoF6DGWq7hlXaIXGMcNWBSy1UgSE04fTyCtmjgY1uqH PUz73zClNW6wnKYNUFCi_vvRQoJuxBmPbJ9P7O1v3546exJQC3QIHCL11h0U _KhO.n.aKdjBi9qXSrEhAmhlGa1lSsLbx89Bv84Q.I7MFEwehmQTWIOax_8M LTwyDFB7Sme4nya8t59wogP3OydTQF54hl7dDtn8ASHL7Mic95j9d Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 18:12:40 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 18:12:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Nafziger List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Just put my new seat tracks in (tr-3) and tightened them down but sliding the seat on was a chore. I also find they don't slide back and forth very well at all. I'm slightly disappointed but think over time things will get better. Just wondering if others have had the same thing happen. I've bolted the tracks on the floor over the carpet. thanks gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 5 23:03:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4082D0927 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:03:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8FA2D0753 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 21:41:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbon3 with SMTP id n3so1060698lbo.14 for ; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:43:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=IvYhkmVZg2TMKqpTpQqwGcWZPL16OENx5IulcLRlkd8=; b=Hdczg9C5Z4a6F9CZbpYs6gx4ypgNOjUSiObWIRjaX86DH7cErcSmuSYRap4I+mLIHC YuQ4RxTqA7mQcT86/RoTzjifK7Bi6HwafJVZZ0D5+5MGxWv4Yz00eSdTa0aH4YATfL0d dwF5AhrUpwMGOqxJIub4AjWnNEGY7CVR0K1czijIkYkwA6hT8vWc/LQNMEFh21RVFLeZ DzDIJumuH/vTP6KebstYAghkjfHThiWy4b3B7aCfzpdYxwEKi/vc26yL1mTJC+qoeSi7 MZXK1+P3ynanzyM05f9U7rEfKVXR6HOzcp4YF+FFoOhMGRyiV/vWsvp8uoYk6GC/3DnU v/Og== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.148.199 with SMTP id tu7mr537466lab.37.1346903027071; Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.2.202 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 20:43:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:43:46 -0400 Message-ID: From: alan salvatore To: Gary Nafziger X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net There should be a spacer between the frame and the carpet. I've sprayed WD40 on the tracks to get them to slide. Al On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Gary Nafziger wrote: > Just put my new seat tracks in (tr-3) and tightened them down but sliding > the > seat on was a chore. I also find they don't slide back and forth very > well at > all. I'm slightly disappointed but think over time things will get better. > Just wondering if others have had the same thing happen. I've bolted the > tracks on the floor over the carpet. > > thanks > > gary n. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/alansalvy@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 6 00:56:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7502D07D6 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 00:56:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19E642D0A17 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:51:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=711hjLEARuMA:10 a=DJ69UsQ6LBSpQESgofkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 40/18-17657-79A38405; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 05:54:32 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: References: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 22:54:44 -0700 Message-ID: <074f01cd8bf4$1dbeb150$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2L7canL/FISatpRDiAeDXPLFXrIAABjnDA Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > There should be a spacer between the frame and the carpet. Do you have a reference or a part number for the spacer? I've never seen one. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 6 01:03:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2852D0915 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 01:03:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10E12D099B for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2012 23:57:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LKXkseq9 c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=711hjLEARuMA:10 a=kswGlkMmp5Y7u4hBOZ4A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 67/68-21812-C3B38405; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 05:57:16 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2012 22:57:29 -0700 Message-ID: <075301cd8bf4$7fd04890$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: Ac2L3AQDDaUCRch6QSy4rfIAiEe2dgAGCn0Q Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Just put my new seat tracks in (tr-3) and tightened them down > but sliding the > seat on was a chore. I also find they don't slide back and > forth very well at > all. I'm slightly disappointed but think over time things > will get better. > Just wondering if others have had the same thing happen. Yup, that's been my experience with both old and new tracks. One of the issues appears to be that the tracks don't wind up parallel, on both the floor and the seat. I haven't found a good solution, but I'm tempted to make a dummy seat with holes, so the bolts into the floor could be left loose until the dummy seat was installed to hold the tracks in the proper location. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 6 01:56:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198242D04D7 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 01:56:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout09.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout09.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.74]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DDD2D0A26 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 00:48:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan11.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.11] helo=mailscan11.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout09.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1T9Vvq-0003if-E9 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 02:51:18 -0400 Received: from impout02.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.2] helo=impout02.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan11.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1T9Vvq-0005GY-AL; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 02:51:18 -0400 Received: from authsmtp06.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.6]) by impout02.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id virJ1j00607rVmq01irJnL; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 02:51:18 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=HIVB5/Rv c=1 sm=1 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=UWBKU8OG_3kA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=711hjLEARuMA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=FVpMKz4vzh_cHzdH4dYA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=fsJ80uyv01TBpq5N3xWxAg==:117 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.6 X-EN-IMPSID: virJ1j00607rVmq01irJnL Received: from c-69-180-140-196.hsd1.mn.comcast.net ([69.180.140.196] helo=triumph) by authsmtp06.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1T9Vvq-00011F-1u; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 02:51:18 -0400 Message-ID: <4E92916EC0584F3F97E92C062527EF38@triumph> From: "Greg Gelhar" To: "alan salvatore" References: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 01:51:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-EN-UserInfo: e42cf78691180d9d9fd0715a4121692b:575ebd0ae47b8b6522b84cd16b3b758d X-EN-AuthUser: greg@gelhar.com X-EN-OrigIP: 69.180.140.196 X-EN-OrigHost: c-69-180-140-196.hsd1.mn.comcast.net Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Al, do you know of any catalog reference for the spacers? The seat track design seems to lack the rigidity needed to hold any alignment. Greg G. Osseo, MN ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks > There should be a spacer between the frame and the carpet. > > I've sprayed WD40 on the tracks to get them to slide. > > Al > > On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Gary Nafziger wrote: > >> Just put my new seat tracks in (tr-3) and tightened them down but sliding >> the >> seat on was a chore. I also find they don't slide back and forth very >> well at >> all. I'm slightly disappointed but think over time things will get >> better. >> Just wondering if others have had the same thing happen. I've bolted the >> tracks on the floor over the carpet. >> >> thanks >> >> gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 6 06:58:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9153A2D0757 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 06:58:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9652D08E9 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 05:23:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lahd3 with SMTP id d3so1296756lah.14 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 04:25:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=6F3yDXr7HATRT2opzC1dkPR6rn7VDTiPCMxX12WY08U=; b=aKGaQXi/kq7fdMmdu1X3ZirQSoYgckM+XSaTeLGYGIvrkVnLbTDOgWT3z+2H4ukX7J wBRn9xx+yj516xrK+wIS6mnqy5DB88kox3fiGH2jH0C8UWnIEbP81/GZ4OKiLv27O5Dp n6i92wf3AvW929cUMm0qcOniUlldFI/ZSyrX/mPzL6BO0xUstKisoll21Vkt03wmmanE 9MnT28pw/g/GDv8ROM3odkuV6jbbCbfrFnVu+ZR8QB1kKyhcEuTXxO/2chesWuHDDbso AGGmczz9bwQWHA+tnXjdrWSUIlgXyD7ueiw09XasN8YCi6+bZQ5Y7Iqe23Qr0Yrc+dV9 0GcA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.42.33 with SMTP id k1mr737515lbl.96.1346930746855; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 04:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.2.202 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 04:25:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E92916EC0584F3F97E92C062527EF38@triumph> References: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4E92916EC0584F3F97E92C062527EF38@triumph> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 07:25:46 -0400 Message-ID: From: alan salvatore To: Greg Gelhar X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I don't have a tr3 catalog, but the TR6 TRF catalog lists it as WM67. Spaces seat tracks from the floor. $1.28 EACH Al On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 2:51 AM, Greg Gelhar wrote: > Al, do you know of any catalog reference for the spacers? The seat track > design seems to lack the rigidity needed to hold any alignment. > > > Greg G. > Osseo, MN > > > ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks > > > > There should be a spacer between the frame and the carpet. >> >> I've sprayed WD40 on the tracks to get them to slide. >> >> Al >> >> On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Gary Nafziger >> wrote: >> >> Just put my new seat tracks in (tr-3) and tightened them down but sliding >>> the >>> seat on was a chore. I also find they don't slide back and forth very >>> well at >>> all. I'm slightly disappointed but think over time things will get >>> better. >>> Just wondering if others have had the same thing happen. I've bolted the >>> tracks on the floor over the carpet. >>> >>> thanks >>> >>> gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 6 07:09:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 103A62D0788 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 07:09:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5FB2D095E for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 05:56:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q86BxI6E009336 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 07:59:18 -0400 Received: from core-moc001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moc001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.1]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 0EB50E000086 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 07:59:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <34868.2934c81e.3d79ea15@cs.com> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 07:59:17 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1346932758; bh=WpOp7Txpc9hbtZFP/G8OwADow0KVFrV/ZTkpQmvTP7s=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pFMoApevEc1/grZrl+hSmRge0OKzT6EVGwPQvAbutrUzdmIb1iH8PMFY9JJgBavaj slPyZC6R3RYrkZvW4NTRpcZS6S2ZNjFFHbXOhjDXYiKUI95HnS9LwQTgTuIAoKzjwC FlWyjLucU8xIjVdzXW8iJdXI8jctKVozd+Qnwb70= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:423431264:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b5048901654c7 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I just put new seat tracks in my TR3 and they slide quite easily. In fact they seem a little too loose and I've adjusted the seat mounting to tighten them up a bit. Do the individual tracks slide OK when not attached to the seat? It could be the seat is putting a twist load on the slide causing them to bind. Or it could be they just need lub. Dave In a message dated 9/5/2012 9:58:34 PM Central Daylight Time, nafzigerg@yahoo.com writes: > Just put my new seat tracks in (tr-3) and tightened them down but sliding > the > seat on was a chore. I also find they don't slide back and forth very > well at > all. I'm slightly disappointed but think over time things will get > better. > Just wondering if others have had the same thing happen. I've bolted the > tracks on the floor over the carpet. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 6 14:27:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC42A2D0776 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:27:22 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.243]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18BED2C0C9D for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 13:21:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.76]) by qmta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vo7N1j0021ei1Bg5DvPuZQ; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 19:23:54 +0000 Received: from sz0048.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta24.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id vvPy1j00P2xV5no3kvPyj6; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 19:23:58 +0000 Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 19:23:54 +0000 (UTC) From: tfansher@comcast.net To: Gary Nafziger Message-ID: <1985904584.1598378.1346959434567.JavaMail.root@sz0048a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:71.42.38.82] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - IE7 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Gary, I've had some luck using nylon washers from Ace Hardware.B I used the size of fender washers to go between the rail and the carpet.B I also stacked them with more in the front and fewer in the rear to elevate the seat a little. I think I used 3 or so in the front, two in the middle and one in the rear- you could use more or less. I used nylon so they wouldn't rust on the carpet.B I had wanted a nylon "incline plane" the width of the rail but raised in the front and lower in the back, but had no idea of where to obtain such a beast....By raising the front of the seat some, it's a lot more comfortable (at least for me). I've done this on both the 3's and the early TR4.... good luck Tom 60 TR3A 61 TR3A 62 TR4 73 Stag Mk II ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Nafziger" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2012 9:12:40 PM Subject: [TR] seat tracks Just put my new seat tracks in (tr-3) and tightened them down but sliding the seat on was a chore. B I also find they don't slide back and forth very well at all. B I'm slightly disappointed but think over time things will get better. Just wondering if others have had the same thing happen. B I've bolted the tracks on the floor over the carpet. thanks gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 6 16:33:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD4452D08C6 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 16:33:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vb0-f41.google.com (mail-vb0-f41.google.com [209.85.212.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67D82D09F7 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 14:48:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vbkv13 with SMTP id v13so2488794vbk.14 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 13:50:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=hSdjvayjY5EGx69IH1CzK49tC7BnVqg6yHSOKAiUIBs=; b=lt15+s+ooiodHr8vMomtR9ZvOAO9r3+RswY9rB90ASqOCd6EIkbRNpvi8BcGNJLf0c aU+A0CTV9RSij4OueyXPi+ZHa6Gqna0cAxrXwe9jIZTAnfnYQ5K/plty9AMnmxn8PdDw Fz6X3LCEpMoPPl+1QWt0y3yc9PZhAZgCfOdcMshYvqGTmDT7TDKev3BvFQyEKp2Gsr9u lYIMT4c9JnOkwER5KwRoGWyXQr3XXluF8eLkZYEeNCj+HERFhGyUPUgE4Td8XjyQ/TSe EkW9yVIBldjnF38ukTuvwh+QuzGzR0oVRxucqvJftcleqOuFcQxRCAr4mpPIaN8H/eQv /9HA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.174.202 with SMTP id bu10mr3406103vdc.128.1346964628305; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 13:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.179.15 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 13:50:28 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <074f01cd8bf4$1dbeb150$0601a8c0@randall> References: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <074f01cd8bf4$1dbeb150$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 16:50:28 -0400 Message-ID: From: Brad Kahler To: Randall X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net In the Standard Triumph TR4 factory spare parts catalog it is listed as "Spacer, between seat slide and carpet". Part # WM0817. My 63 spitfire also had these spacers. Brad On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Randall wrote: > > There should be a spacer between the frame and the carpet. > > Do you have a reference or a part number for the spacer? I've never seen > one. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/bkahler1@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 6 18:50:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A3D2D0B36 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 18:50:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF352D092E for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 16:40:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so3498556pbb.14 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:43:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nmqLabUTmIbyWEcSqsEWDErZU+QSxT9u0O6kqdFMIyI=; b=NKN9h7yCdFEjk3QZecMoSSVFdfqfH/j9C2A7OeIyFJ53cznB+srGSwwpRnOLgcJZPL pHTFAKa544Y2X4R3eU1jFgT1irmBcA4Up26E1XNU5AhXeuVkQy8keL5Dkaqh91SFmxL6 I7J/6BHxcCyDIaAVmy6f9vblayGBtxOJ2y3UJVJSKh64abcUfSBl9yT0rWQyF0uRZsgi 5AdfcPBeGhhEtjnNgmPsVvnhmIfFYoPil6jBEEavz6EBHRQYlJssnSj0eFVy4d/ZIvVh rphoCRhCWG/tRHbSX8aLCtW/x6HGYIU/jmi37cMV6Xf9UkgPFFXSePIAwJWU5rODgeDn +t6w== Received: by 10.66.87.132 with SMTP id ay4mr5304196pab.82.1346971395320; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-152-169.phnx.qwest.net. [174.19.152.169]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pj8sm2051384pbb.60.2012.09.06.15.43.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <504926FF.2050108@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2012 15:43:11 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <8CF24758AAFF7BD-FA4-193FD@webmail-d146.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph service bulletins formerly at "little mac shop"? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have a number of Service bulletins in my TR web site. 1954 through 1965 covering TR2 through 4A. www.tr3a.info/Service_sheets.htm TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 6 23:05:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18FBB2D0B67 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 23:05:42 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5598B2D09A8 for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 21:06:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lahd3 with SMTP id d3so1943443lah.14 for ; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 20:09:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=MXaopJFslH07XhhkMpXluE4HvVzeURdUgdxJwSW89xc=; b=xQnkL4UlNt14KVwqWpOEDMiRos1acE6oO4JZVFAQAaCGJFiZJ12jcTR8SSWT1n1M/l kgWqalUjiR9OCAoB9g4mduUhj72kzjcbQ/To+yf9IvAw+P7zxciO/l7+cd54JwqIj72H aHRksyTZXoSfxBQ8GXeUxgyx1TqEx06jqUGboCp8mZqul7J6cxm+Q2xrTo2ET30pbF2l kaIf1sLQu894xm6Ykas0JpdhaOXUVk5u7ShZv37pBrI45YAj7g5at1jBWrdth3Y3nj5I yeyRWNlHMSYuYKuo/eliIcwnGeGeO5FY3kjgBOzkMQLFdIjg0pgbSDrX28pn+iwUeW2j sQQg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.114.5 with SMTP id jc5mr1273783lab.36.1346987341865; Thu, 06 Sep 2012 20:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 20:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 22:09:01 -0500 Message-ID: From: Don Hiscock To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Silver-painted TR3A/B oil filler caps -- any details regarding shade? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The original oil filler cap on my TR3B was silver. After twenty years in a barn as the restoration got parked the remnants of silver (and some red overspray from who knows what it its past life) are hard to see, let alone match to something. My cap pre-restoration http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-Q75msdV/0/XL/i-Q75msdV-XL.jpg As this gets repainted and put it back in service I'd like to shoot it silver rather than the more common (and easier to match!) black. I happen to have a rattle can here of Eastwood Detail Silver used to restore an old wire wheel as a spare. This color was suggested by Allen Hendrix to match the new MWS wires now on the car and it's a pretty good match on the wheels, especially after shooting a clearcoat on it. There are surely a few other silver filler caps out there from this period -- on TRs or other Standard Triumph products like Heralds, IIRC. If anyone on the list has an original silver oil filler cap, I'd appreciate any comments about how close the oil filler silver is to wheel silver or another reference. The restored wheel up close to see the finish with Eastwood Detail Silver http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-MrMTKBd/0/XL/i-MrMTKBd-XL.jpg Restored 48 spoke against new 60 spoke http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-trK5XHx/0/XL/i-trK5XHx-XL.jpg Thanks in advance, Don 1962 TR3B TSF202L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 6 23:30:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DF242D0D7E for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 23:30:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E2F2D0A8C for ; Thu, 6 Sep 2012 21:58:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=711hjLEARuMA:10 a=mQQL140Pji8LM_ya1gwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 25/89-17657-D8179405; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 04:01:17 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: References: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><074f01cd8bf4$1dbeb150$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2012 21:01:32 -0700 Message-ID: <089401cd8cad$77bedb80$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2McT8DJtJB0u/XRdO0cXite8kVXAAPACvg Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > In the Standard Triumph TR4 factory spare parts catalog it is > listed as "Spacer, between seat slide and carpet". Part # WM0817. Yes, but there is no such listing in the TR3 factory spare parts catalogue; and it's seat slides are completely different than the later cars. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 04:55:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C85D2D0AF3 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 04:55:20 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 692312D0A4F; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 03:26:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120907092850.LXTS12025.mta21.charter.net@imp10>; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 05:28:50 -0400 Received: from Desktop ([96.32.2.169]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id w9Uk1j00B3enFnk059Uq21; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 05:28:50 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=qU9vTENroOq2s6i9/sTxZt9WOCoWX/XGfIT3Tj8F8dQ= c=1 sm=1 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:17 a=mkuR5niSAAAA:8 a=Ht4s7-g5op7VwELywgMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=62ZarXVP-catiZZN7RAA:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=gdY3lKrP8J3mFNlESoTTgw==:117 From: "Alex & Janet Thomson" To: , <6pack@autox.team.net>, Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 05:28:42 -0400 Message-ID: <000601cd8cdb$2c0b58c0$84220a40$@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2M2rDuQyThz66aTjW0wo8rPS5MSA== Content-Language: en-us X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Car Show X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Reminder to folks in Southern New England - the Connecticut Triumph Register will be hosting their 32nd annual Gathering of British Motorcars this Sunday, September 9th. 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Alex Thomson ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 04:58:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0BD2D0A94 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 04:58:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pz0-f41.google.com (mail-pz0-f41.google.com [209.85.210.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A64D32C0D44 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 03:49:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by dadi14 with SMTP id i14so1853278dad.14 for ; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 02:51:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=H0jU8Zo3WfDZiYXAbzwW9zr9p+0/YWm0P4Y0DfUKyz0=; b=bbj2VYBo08O1oecbITBqLrVHgGxi2GTVEFkzPGQplvGg1inJzmKQxby3j0C7MO65Xh A88s4MvejCiM6YUWMdVKMoK9KBcmHHd3VB87SgZRMxhFYveI5qwMeDaB6MA8d6eKZaUA bqvwbdcTwc7k7k26AKvV3vYDetawBiSfgr8F4XKUziaOgr+0SrTMm8m72FLKrdjgqNwG 2kKOrHCT9cFhK0w9OT91XZOMWmD52ar7uJH4+2qBk8gY6Z5oESKWWkTstZm9Ml71efMG o0jtjiBOxrY+yiy0vRFhROFyvdupBSBBoHK17vEEuIQ7/gjJOoz73zM8j+RiGmeNv9x0 YDNg== Received: by 10.66.73.9 with SMTP id h9mr7718225pav.76.1347011517969; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 02:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-152-169.phnx.qwest.net. [174.19.152.169]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pv9sm2840365pbb.67.2012.09.07.02.51.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 07 Sep 2012 02:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5049C3B9.9050608@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 02:51:53 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] Silver-painted TR3A/B oil filler caps -- any details regarding shade? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/6/12 8:09 PM, Don Hiscock wrote: > The original oil filler cap on my TR3B was silver. After twenty years in a > barn as the restoration got parked the remnants of silver (and some red > overspray from who knows what it its past life) are hard to see, let > alone match to something. My guess would be silver hammerite. It was commonly used throughout the British car industry where they wanted a tough oil and rust resistant finish. TeriAnn > My cap pre-restoration > http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-Q75msdV/0/XL/i-Q75msdV-XL.jpg ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 06:37:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB722D0A2C for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 06:37:57 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA962D0772 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 05:25:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbon3 with SMTP id n3so2278193lbo.14 for ; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 04:27:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=+ln0oGgmHu3cHhYng2lJ94tWRnPmsHVO69n1Zq0Dms0=; b=kV8ppuBfnKXssD3+Jvx1KbvT5B+5BsDfl60m6JcZGBzdXOoXjV/Dm2PkQs7awJ3JAK OtRFNnG2VSbZ338A7ETun5CxElg+eicgpeaDCSz6skpKip3IOhm4syir/fnyx14pkXoL TPnj0zFVqbo1iDyUmJ1ZVBIyG3s9ToMpeMnQH8STHJnq9yXOQ4xjusW0XrqMA6u9PPmM LJM7f3PzWZQFtMNPwZFZORauXa/PkQAQrz43hblw3yn84HIwbSshJR66QHAb5BxMRjyw VCiUEUTAVE/Wub5hsxaYP07AhAW3K8j0UytoYyBWROsz2ItdJkewdBoz3US7WkNlZRGg QLTA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.82.42 with SMTP id f10mr2058278lby.95.1347017275053; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 04:27:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.2.202 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 04:27:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <089401cd8cad$77bedb80$0601a8c0@randall> References: <1346893960.90962.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <074f01cd8bf4$1dbeb150$0601a8c0@randall> <089401cd8cad$77bedb80$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 07:27:54 -0400 Message-ID: From: alan salvatore To: Randall X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] seat tracks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Probably just means Triumph hadn't thought of the spacer at that time. As they were always adding improvements. And a plastic spacer would have been a better idea than the metal one since it wouldn't rust. Al On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 12:01 AM, Randall wrote: > > In the Standard Triumph TR4 factory spare parts catalog it is > > listed as "Spacer, between seat slide and carpet". Part # WM0817. > > Yes, but there is no such listing in the TR3 factory spare parts catalogue; > and it's seat slides are completely different than the later cars. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/alansalvy@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 08:30:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 409C92D0A03 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 08:30:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2532D033B for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 07:33:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iec9 with SMTP id 9so6190993iec.14 for ; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 06:36:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=KFHHOkFsvT9M25lBnGVcgrhV50Kg/Bk5K8U3jJFJXa8=; b=h7lNlqITT/JP1NmxdoL0TYPB7/xVZglb4n2Y8792MyP8tkRxI0twxsWZTHUS7oEAhQ J0RofInzhgvTaUdpNcZwEDcETmHgK2P//7V4a/Zw8V176oE7BGrBr5DBdq/gOYYYSCMa fz/0WSzJngUdJE8q0KcgLZPFh1HtL58VllJXf9J75A6pFcOT7lxxXfEFXY470nG9CARb Sw47mD5FMJiuA6SACWTsWxfITSQxprVTLuvo227eh7xKXTMz0+RvfAzCuOygd56jzlgI 1glAGzQwp2w/q3MYEjlLnqc6FwbWvp7jzZGqGaP94YsWsG2BX/5kGp87clVtiDkX1JKd sgfw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.57.168 with SMTP id j8mr8711361igq.16.1347024970457; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 06:36:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 06:36:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 06:36:10 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Silver-painted TR3A/B oil filler caps -- any details regarding shade? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Is Hammerite generally available (e.g. Ace, Home Depot)? Also -- does someone know the approximate change point from 'plain' to 'dimpled' caps? Geo On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 8:09 PM, Don Hiscock wrote: > The original oil filler cap on my TR3B was silver... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 10:24:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EFFC2D03C0 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 10:24:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp003.mac.com (st11p02mm-asmtpout003.mac.com [17.172.220.238]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C182D0AD7 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 08:35:39 -0600 (MDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [192.168.0.25] (71-222-108-105.ptld.qwest.net [71.222.108.105]) by st11p02mm-asmtp003.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0M9Z007JJHZUOJB0@st11p02mm-asmtp003.mac.com> for Triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 14:38:24 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-09-07_05:2012-09-06,2012-09-07,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1209070134 From: Darrell Walker In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 07:38:17 -0700 Message-id: <26E1C9FE-254A-40FD-9E5E-2A5A085E2ED9@mac.com> References: To: Geo Hahn X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Silver-painted TR3A/B oil filler caps -- any details regarding shade? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Sep 7, 2012, at 6:36 AM, Geo Hahn wrote: > Is Hammerite generally available (e.g. Ace, Home Depot)? Rustoleum has hammered-finished paints now. -Darrell -- Darrell Walker 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206 Vancouver, WA, USA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 11:15:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DFE22D0690 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 11:15:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1D262D034B for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 09:58:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so4682979pbb.14 for ; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 09:01:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7YN8t+OSKEOrBg0IzRRt4FI0dzYfaugvcxGtZkfaKZQ=; b=ZJUkm+ZtEYI8IK4xGxFMRYEsvSu3hbLk9TgTrv8LXmVyRscOp3ToopeG9G+Ih9AXcF +sxZXSsSz8dFEJ/LuS8KFe0vOnkoHffTNI8CF1htmgJ4HG3EXvTS1Mct3RKVUylBMwD0 EWvCZWxM7eFbX7CrvqGvsaUkZIJGP0WNqd8YddJosAB4sAw6x/4dKPTjpMZTV7ZULTS5 pCMWDCwoqp+a8KVrcqfGLdPn0K+9y52AZ2yD3GgaC6sGf1noTvJck6IT2sLNtAEmJWYC UYNM3UVJ95dSmB55lrPC1idu9LKlSAExziQgOVdPw9bJ+/8LRih1ai00JqSo5WZ4i4/+ YwDg== Received: by 10.68.226.167 with SMTP id rt7mr10178919pbc.146.1347033696656; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 09:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-152-169.phnx.qwest.net. [174.19.152.169]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hr9sm3343109pbc.36.2012.09.07.09.01.26 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 07 Sep 2012 09:01:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <504A1A53.6050502@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 09:01:23 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumph List References: <5049C3B9.9050608@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] Silver-painted TR3A/B oil filler caps -- any details regarding shade? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/7/12 7:33 AM, Don Hiscock wrote: > Thanks, TeriAnn -- OK, I just looked the cap up in the TRA concourse judging guide to be sure. "The early and late caps are similar in appearance. Both are domed with mesh breather filters in the bottom. The early cap has a flat top profile; the late cap profile has 3 thumb grips, and a round, domed, profile. Early caps are black. Late caps are found painted black or hammer-tone (specific color unknown) gray. Decal. A decal is fitted to the oil filler cap tops. Two basic styles of decals are used. The early decal is divided in a pattern of concentric circles. Later a pie pattern decal was used. The following variations are known: TR2/3 -- Large concentric circle decal, black with white markings. TR3A -- Large pie-pattern decal, black with white markings. TR3A -- Little concentric circle decal, black with white markings fits caps with thumb-holes. TR3A/3B -- Little pie-pattern decal fits the caps with thumb-holes. TR3B -- Little pie-pattern decal, Red with white markings (only observed on some TR3Bs with hammertone caps)." There is a hammerite gray which is a darker gray. Hammerite silver is more of a gray silver. Check with the remaining paint bits on your cap. It it looks at all like a silvery gray go with the hammerite silver. If you guess wrong you can always buy another can & respray. I get my Hammerite paint from my local ACE hardware. One had it in stock on the shelf, the other didn't stock it but made a special order for me. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 11:44:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A62C2D068B for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 11:44:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.enterhost.com (mail05.enterhost.com [208.65.128.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C2AE2D0390 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 11:42:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 99-187-242-14.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.187.242.14] by mail05.enterhost.com with SMTP; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 12:45:20 -0500 From: "G.D. Huggins" Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 12:45:14 -0500 Message-Id: To: triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [TR] TR4A - Radiator Draincock Thread Size Question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net All, Would anyone happen to know what the thread size is for the draincock on a stock TR4A radiator? I don't want to have to pull it out to measure. I suspect its 1/4" NPT. Cheers, Guy D. Huggins 1965 Triumph TR4A CTC 63569LO Online project diary at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 18:34:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD5D62D0649 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:34:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm35-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm35-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.238.75]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2AA062D04BD for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:34:50 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.150] by nm35.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 00:37:43 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.111] by tm7.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 00:37:43 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 00:37:43 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 366634.40862.bm@omp1016.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 60734 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2012 00:37:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=6l9yOzdrFx1cSxd8QdI9MBUjrjS9pWXvnRpi5JdzoGxFmUSXRlAhfjoC6NqZAUJqPOXKaN7ll+ePhGUZlrtVfGKiQCeqI8YCWaxEYIVv8jJzZuN7p58QRqHpJ0UV2dANdJ9sD5VCP37MQClkD8OKAL4VUEeUC3sBZ3XrykolX/I= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1347064663; bh=JMCrUzsuuwc8+b/et+wRCPVjNWHelCcmICCUtUpS1Xc=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=wURKTH5T1LjzXebuFiqy8ln52Dha924jox+oe8kU//Cv2DFujMO/FFEnZxcuVR+WYZCnVYe3wN1Upnn8uiLkcQENJY/9OJaH7YxEUyI1K3Cv9wDFe5JGyy3TSLD4YToRZwoBtXbD38eXhSuLxqU1hYsYQV0nAPA2SPzD52Z4Ztw= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: rqUmkbgVM1nY5txt81ez62WPXMVuH4Xty4TACDw1uWtggWm bQYtXTPzix96y4ZYUBVIhjaUKcAAdVg_mtNWAgxykjs1NwEcPe45dEI.aj96 9rnOpm9mjQtq.ia.rGTTOgUwbdSfBPyKRrNu5XLloJbIyunPlwWV0zr24Tdh BTAc3FBDsfqXAf.c.kgSmdU5SZmb8Sz8C6FPB.U17OOqGj7p1Vycp00n6iFI SrzpfYRfb4r.OofaMBSy0JtGgbxEq1Lb7duIcO0CMPoAcdnDb6dQpklt3wIX tAI_b4Gnb9jTRBZD2EQ1y4kueTbEEAZJqH3x7kF1EwWlcrTUtlHksKjomcrG Upu6EHi6OopJg47.ptGmHLX0l_woIKXn1ig2OEhPABgpOdDO5UvO0GLeHPgr evXmbArlm08C2.nz9KElvQI7VqeaVfUUbQoI7i.p3cM_ogjkft5o- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp107.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 07 Sep 2012 17:37:42 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:37:51 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2NWhW3tIZ/m4dETN2mTxtsATWl2wAAAw4A Subject: Re: [TR] Rostyle Wheels X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ISTR a lot of traffic on the list a number of months back about Rostyle wheels. I mostly ignored it not looking to replace the new wires on the TR3. Now, a friend with a 1980 MGB has indicated he is thinking of replacing his factory Rostyles with some new chrome wires. So I thought of the list and herewith are a couple of questions: 1. Will 14" MBG wheels fit on some TR models? 2. Is there really someone out there looking to acquire a nice set of originals, he bought this car new. If there is a deal to be brokered, I am happy to be in the middle as a non-profit participant. NFI, Bill ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 18:37:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2310B2D0650 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:37:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0372D063D for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:37:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA3A2E021 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:42:38 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <504A947F.7080609@bradakis.com> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:42:39 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] Rostyle Wheels X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > 1. Will 14" MBG [sic] wheels fit on some TR models? There are brake clearance issues. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 19:07:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97CC32D0631 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:07:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout13.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout13.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.106]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2AE72D0513 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:07:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan13.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.13] helo=mailscan13.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout13.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1TA9ZF-0006yz-P1 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 21:10:37 -0400 Received: from impout01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.1] helo=impout01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan13.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1TA9ZF-0003fG-BA for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 21:10:37 -0400 Received: from authsmtp17.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.18.17]) by impout01.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id wRAd1j0040N5tVm01RAdr8; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 21:10:37 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IICA+3TG c=1 sm=1 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=UWBKU8OG_3kA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=Qy8bJKGqINQA:10 a=GuYXChqt5XFbPF_rTh0A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=lUmgnZIiPNyYlqfA:21 a=Xg5-KtBgtWV-znIU:21 a=ayZJSlMgWVhgG3n+ZwULew==:117 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.18.17 X-EN-IMPSID: wRAd1j0040N5tVm01RAdr8 Received: from c-69-180-140-196.hsd1.mn.comcast.net ([69.180.140.196] helo=triumph) by authsmtp17.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtpa (Exim) id 1TA9ZF-0001cN-3L for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 21:10:37 -0400 Message-ID: <20B006A574CE41679FA427CB2626BAA2@triumph> From: "Greg Gelhar" To: References: <504A947F.7080609@bradakis.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:10:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-EN-UserInfo: e42cf78691180d9d9fd0715a4121692b:575ebd0ae47b8b6522b84cd16b3b758d X-EN-AuthUser: greg@gelhar.com X-EN-OrigIP: 69.180.140.196 X-EN-OrigHost: c-69-180-140-196.hsd1.mn.comcast.net Subject: [TR] Heritage Certificate X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Can I get a Heritage Certificate for a TR3B if I only have an engine number? I am wanting to know the commission number. The car was titled by the engine number. How many states did that? Greg G. Osseo, MN ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 19:23:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 910BA2D0697 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:23:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f169.google.com (mail-qc0-f169.google.com [209.85.216.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D10E92D0655 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:23:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by qcsd16 with SMTP id d16so136048qcs.14 for ; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:26:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=lJSadljj5DX3PCnR4LXLrvb1jEKc9RZzkh+TLnG26jc=; b=K9WsJDRKGcTGfJ7O+3Nzq+/er77uBNGyAgOF7rXdYv4xS4nrugHsnGTUVfI6g8cE1m iSAoBWAcV8uPwf+tB8HrNnH529SsvZkko1MACOCIsgfRLj1i8U3+zYqr5sDLwO/R5vqs HfXvblu7sthl+wpo6HBoBxoleCJ0RJFAzWVPzEcBZ86NFAdkLsb4fr2BiKis0i6SViLi 5q4GNwqra+2BN0iYC7rGDJ35I0NN+7z9eKovI1VTv1EZVvXgDiVPZ+gHe1l2vM+O1cIU lMR9u/Y81HLkZvw8NOhfOcr3rjK0TZOO0mRl7KItL4KR6VHbySfwTrJYd5rymJBq5M/Q +S+Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.105.100 with SMTP id s36mr2349761qco.88.1347067593046; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 18:26:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.28.34 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:26:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20B006A574CE41679FA427CB2626BAA2@triumph> References: <504A947F.7080609@bradakis.com> <20B006A574CE41679FA427CB2626BAA2@triumph> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 18:26:32 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Greg Gelhar X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Heritage Certificate X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net As I recall, yes -- but it costs a bit extra. Geo On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Greg Gelhar wrote: > Can I get a Heritage Certificate for a TR3B if I only have an engine > number? I am wanting to know the commission number. The car was titled by > the engine number. How many states did that? > > Greg G. > Osseo, MN > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@**gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 19:24:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BAF92D067A for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:24:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173015pub.verizon.net (vms173015pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.15]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD6B2D0655 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 19:24:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vms170027pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.3]) by vms173015.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MA000J4JC17LAJP@vms173015.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 20:27:07 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 71.127.35.140 ([71.127.35.140]) by vms170027 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Fri, 07 Sep 2012 20:27:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 20:27:07 -0500 (CDT) From: thenicholls@verizon.net To: greg@gelhar.com, triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <5758569.2003737.1347067627772.JavaMail.root@vms170027> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Verizon Webmail X-Originating-IP: [71.127.35.140] Subject: Re: [TR] Heritage Certificate X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I would contact them and provide all the information you have, and let them tell you if they can validate it before you pay for the certificate. Craig 1972 Triumph TR6 On 09/07/12, Greg Gelhar wrote: Can I get a Heritage Certificate for a TR3B if I only have an engine number? I am wanting to know the commission number. The car was titled by the engine number. How many states did that? Greg G. Osseo, MN ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/thenicholls@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 20:22:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9E052C0C80 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:22:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FFCF2D054E for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:17:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.202]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q882KMuE029481 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:20:22 -0400 Received: from core-ddb004b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-ddb004.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.52.77]) by mtaomg-db04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 8A972E000086 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:20:22 -0400 (EDT) From: McGaheyRx@aol.com Message-ID: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:20:22 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.7 sub 19 X-Originating-IP: [70.147.250.42] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347070822; bh=2IPz7MLESS104vBZpTCIFCplZILn2YT3CTSzcy76iWo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=F/gFwKov1lhEcdzZ7VkaIB8R53mf/k0nBka0QDYsSTfaCzhCAxzc2A1x0SzOHQgRV qNnHR6bSLYA5CXYxdw1T0HgDo38XuCo+SNiBf5gxHNZBr5yia7H3zhoq+GjicQYkDJ 5QvzMNjnOiH1T8WtbSrCyYgUCYu8eMMyXZnvqvsI= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:430632384:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33ca504aab666c97 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This question is, I think, in the same vein with those about the service bulletins. I recently snagged a "1977 TR7 Repair Operation Times" booklet - an original British Leyland publication intended to serve as a flat rate time guide for dealer service departments - interesting - IMHO anyway Does anybody have these for other models? TR6? GT6? TR8? are they posted online anywhere? Cheers, Jack Mc ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 20:53:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59C82D06B0 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:53:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from dfn.com (mail.dfn.com [74.116.128.7]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3D92D0659 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:49:01 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [192.168.0.2] [199.83.117.192] by dfn.com with ESMTP (SMTPD-11.5) id 710e0000de3142da; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:51:48 -0600 Message-ID: <504AB2D4.1060308@dfn.com> Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2012 20:52:04 -0600 From: Michael Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: McGaheyRx@aol.com References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/7/2012 8:20 PM, McGaheyRx@aol.com wrote: > This question is, I think, in the same vein with those about the service > bulletins. > > I recently snagged a "1977 TR7 Repair Operation Times" booklet - an > original British Leyland publication intended to serve as a flat rate time > guide for dealer service departments - interesting - IMHO anyway > > Quite apart from collector value, the dealer flat-rate guides are always interesting to read, in part because of the outrageousness of them, but also to glean where the big problems were--most times were on the short side, but the big design bugaboos were always kept really short, because they knew warranty reserves were going to be depleted by them, anyway. Still, if one was working in a dealership, there was not much hilarity in them. I recall well a new Corolla that the owner had asked for an extra key, we cut him one, and it fit, but not perfectly--either the key code on the car was wrong, or there was an imperceptible burr on it, but the key wedged in the "start" position, and the fellow took off and drove about fifty miles. This of course turned the starter into an unregulated generator, and it fried the starting harness (0.3 hours to replace by the book) which took about fifteen minutes, and a part of the instrument harness, which had to be replaced as a unit. Book time for that was 3.0 hours. The entire dash and its support structure had to be disassembled to remove the old harness and route the new one (about thirty major pieces). I think it actually took me ten hours, and about halfway through it, the shop manager was about ready to have me committed because I started yelling at the top of my lungs, every time I hit a snag, "I wanna meet the little Japanese guy that can do this in three hours!" Still and all, better than the poor GM guys across the street at the time, who were having so much trouble with poor design with regard to disassembly/assembly issues that they were averaging about 12 flat-rate hours a week, even though their yard was full of cars waiting for repairs. Cheers. -- Michael Porter Roswell, NM Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking distance.... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 21:56:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A21472D06AB for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 21:56:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 099712D067A for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 21:55:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=ZxVny_6QjDsA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=2ZqCTPE6sj4A:10 a=V_QVz9srAAAA:20 a=V9H8278vAAAA:20 a=nM0CzfQHAAAA:8 a=4glUeq_8AAAA:20 a=Yr1Ny-pF7p_2Aofjx2UA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=eiye6hF8BKAA:10 a=S5G-F1CbE-wA:10 a=PpvQEwnPbwYA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 93/A4-28917-172CA405; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 03:58:41 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 20:58:57 -0700 Message-ID: <09a201cd8d76$46357be0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> Thread-Index: Ac2NaT7mjJnXCDWYTEuq4wrbnzmNOwAC8B5w Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Does anybody have these for other models? TR6? GT6? TR8? > are they posted online anywhere? I have them for Stag http://tinyurl.com/98tq3sz and TR3 http://tinyurl.com/9t5jm32 -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 21:58:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A506B2D06E6 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 21:58:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07EC62D0686 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 21:58:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H+ZZMpki c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=ddqFx66VxicA:10 a=s5ZVbGLMcWTzyEk8F40A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=0KTb3xqKFlKZ2vV0:21 a=fLDAwbOoUZr4BhM1:21 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55003] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 53/7F-15382-813CA405; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:01:28 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Greg Gelhar'" , References: <504A947F.7080609@bradakis.com> <20B006A574CE41679FA427CB2626BAA2@triumph> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 21:01:45 -0700 Message-ID: <09a301cd8d76$a9d79e30$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <20B006A574CE41679FA427CB2626BAA2@triumph> Thread-Index: Ac2NXtHO+x2X4MYMTrmMLxh+/TVlEgAF5Q0g Subject: Re: [TR] Heritage Certificate X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > The car was > titled by the engine > number. How many states did that? I believe it was somewhat hit and miss. Anyway, my 56 TR3 was originally registered in CA by the engine number. I had it changed to the commission number when I got it transferred to my name. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 22:00:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 144522D0694 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:00:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B212D0686 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:00:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LKXkseq9 c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=CkGzXMeGUhQA:10 a=cmqXGcG8lw6Lh6LbGhsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=6oaSbb84T8tHvM2V:21 a=bTSCPbIHsNeSWOT9:21 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id D4/70-21812-D93CA405; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:03:41 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 21:03:58 -0700 Message-ID: <09a401cd8d76$f9332b70$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2NWhW3tIZ/m4dETN2mTxtsATWl2wAAAw4AAAclDHA= Subject: Re: [TR] Rostyle Wheels X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > 1. Will 14" MBG wheels fit on some TR models? I believe they will fit on Stags and maybe some of the 2000/2.5 models that came originally with 14" wheels. But I'm not interested. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 22:07:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F34122D065E for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:07:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F8C22C0459 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:02:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wC1W1j0031zF43QA1U5Ezk; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:05:14 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.63] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wU5C1j00Y4L5TyG8kU5DeK; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:05:14 +0000 Message-Id: From: Bud Rolofson To: Dennis Culligan In-Reply-To: <003b01cd8ad8$617af6f0$2470e4d0$@net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:05:12 -0600 References: <003b01cd8ad8$617af6f0$2470e4d0$@net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Rotating tyres X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dennis, If you run your hand back and forth on the surface of the tire you should be able to feel which direction the rubber is wearing. It will feel different as you go back and forth over the tread width. One way will have an "edge" on the tread pattern and one way should be smooth. Having that information you may be able to figure out how the tires are tracking down the road (or not tracking) and why they are wearing the way they are. Much like cupped tires indicate bad shocks, wear towards the inside/outside can indicate wheel alignment issues and also what direction the tires are really pointing in as you roll down the road. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) levilevi@comcast.net On Sep 4, 2012, at 2:03 PM, Dennis Culligan wrote: > While we're talking about tires. I recently noticed some wear on the > outside edge of the > > right front tire on my '76 TR6 so I decided to rotate as I usually > do, front > to rear to front. > > However, upon further inspection, I could not help but notice that > both > right side tires, front > > AND rear, were decidedly more worn across the whole tire (not just > the edge) > than the left > > side tires. How exactly does this happen? The right sides are > nearly shot > while the lefts look > > fine. Tires are Vredestein Sprint Classics and have about 25,000 > miles on > them. Any ideas? > > Dennis Culligan, Highland NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/levilevi@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 7 22:17:46 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E31E72D0686 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:17:46 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9532D0648 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2012 22:17:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Vb91zSV9 c=1 sm=0 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=ddqFx66VxicA:10 a=j8LMS7g5Bg-F0lK58bQA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=11kGg_FEG_1DtOVG:21 a=ParP3EXKuNLTwM5G:21 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.84.49.244 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:53394] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 53/F5-17584-397CA405; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:20:36 +0000 Message-ID: <0777D9FD7ABB46CBBC4F9914E27CE595@GregPC> From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Randall" , "'Greg Gelhar'" , References: <504A947F.7080609@bradakis.com><20B006A574CE41679FA427CB2626BAA2@triumph> <09a301cd8d76$a9d79e30$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <09a301cd8d76$a9d79e30$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2012 23:20:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] Heritage Certificate X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The car was titled by the engine number. How many states did that? I believe all states titled cars by VIN number or car number, but in the actual titling process (I assume) they grabbed the first number they could find off the car or made a best guess as to which was the car or VIN number. My old Austin Healey 100 was titled in the body number, which was much easier to find on the back of the firewall than the VIN plate riveted to the frame below the engine. Greg Lemon 68 Triumph TR250 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 04:44:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 814202D065E for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 04:44:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A6442D063D for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 04:43:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ool-18b8ba55.dyn.optonline.net [24.184.186.85]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MA100I5N1WIYMO0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 06:45:55 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 06:49:46 -0400 From: George Richardson In-reply-to: <0777D9FD7ABB46CBBC4F9914E27CE595@GregPC> To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <504B22CA.2040601@key-men.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120907-1, 09/07/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: <504A947F.7080609@bradakis.com> <20B006A574CE41679FA427CB2626BAA2@triumph> <09a301cd8d76$a9d79e30$0601a8c0@randall> <0777D9FD7ABB46CBBC4F9914E27CE595@GregPC> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 Subject: Re: [TR] Heritage Certificate X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My 57 TR3 is titled by the engine number. Good thing it's still original. :-) George Richardson Key Men - Keys for Classics www.key-men.com On 9/8/2012 12:20 AM, Greg Lemon wrote: > The car was titled by the engine number. How many states did that? > > I believe all states titled cars by VIN number or car number, but in > the actual titling process (I assume) they grabbed the first number > they could find off the car or made a best guess as to which was the > car or VIN number. My old Austin Healey 100 was titled in the body > number, which was much easier to find on the back of the firewall than > the VIN plate riveted to the frame below the engine. > > Greg Lemon > 68 Triumph TR250 > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/gpr@key-men.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 05:16:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 390DA2D065F for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 05:16:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6847A2D0643 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 05:15:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so880859pbb.14 for ; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:18:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=o0kEk4u8hH6wr6RnKXkuE6SBOGHH3+ga7JCn1b4lex0=; b=yEef5uMa0B78nLyuhiU3RAGi3nEgb2fGPn5FaoirfVGsHOFUmozPbIHcpp87KAT4wq MG36xMtA8wm3aV93YwIeFJ3+Vk/aDSjkbDYCZX3ph52f1rita0denQm7W3LFQ67vcBYm LbQLlhRXLG5VUqEi7Ctuya2KvwzBO6odgpNpUaWM5JAbrULsTki/kiIZhjhFv7rhEBDw lwYj2rWJ7jmYp+XJdXRmT4XbpVnmbkzt9hdX4I0nrZ/hElnZy57IrpHbrQLVm8C7klEJ YH2uB+mVd+SFX1OVRVg5IuRCEzLB4VOwNcrVzZpZAlTr+OXPfcIykINDF07Wu/TdHSpP Dhag== Received: by 10.68.131.67 with SMTP id ok3mr10607886pbb.140.1347103098184; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 04:18:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-152-169.phnx.qwest.net. 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Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <504A947F.7080609@bradakis.com> <20B006A574CE41679FA427CB2626BAA2@triumph> <09a301cd8d76$a9d79e30$0601a8c0@randall> <0777D9FD7ABB46CBBC4F9914E27CE595@GregPC> <504B22CA.2040601@key-men.com> In-Reply-To: <504B22CA.2040601@key-men.com> Subject: Re: [TR] Heritage Certificate X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/8/12 3:49 AM, George Richardson wrote: > My 57 TR3 is titled by the engine number. Good thing it's still > original. :-) > Once upon a time, there was a person who owned a Triumph wrecking yard who decided to have his employees build up a nice TR3 from parts in the yard. This was a project to fill in otherwise employee idle time. The car got built up, sent off to a body shop, painted black and when it came back they put a new interior kit in it (Red if I remember this fable correctly). The owner built the car out of assorted TR3 parts to sell and wanted to present it as an original car that was freshly restored. He decided that the engine & car should have matching numbers to show originality. So he bought a new commission plate and stamped it with the engine number. Until now it was the only car I know of that had a commission number that ended in an 'E'. ( TSXXXXXE) When the car was finished, it was entered into the Palo Alto British Car show and won a people's choice award then was sold for a princely sum. Hopefully the newly born TR3 lived happily ever since. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 07:37:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B8C2D065C for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 07:37:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm30.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm30.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.52.227]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 55D9C2D064F for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 07:30:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.52.195] by nm30.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 13:33:48 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.102] by tm8.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 13:33:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1007.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 13:33:48 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 885672.50978.bm@omp1007.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 91982 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2012 13:33:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-reply-to:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=mx8CzEdsK5dIzsu5cn5DC/aM3BDbMZiglNJkWmPrbYUoDFn4hXabFuaH76sEvtkC9pklxi0FspyB/qnv3H3DBNnA1gXrXS27QUx0h1i2N2jYdXQ+LZk0M0HX55E1Xqt9s5IwUQOA/BjaFeYWig0y0Spt8OVFS1B2YHeYjwLGNMM= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1347111228; bh=+ZUej5ZungET21M4/U5zNtL6JClXI88uE8GzGz1QpuY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-reply-to:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=Bgk0TtBKwogk8gxovZpRlomgHlfagqJomWfm9AM8tFnMgr9XnI2CsLbhLn7z++F8KG2XGLgWMx7tXYuo8QSW6KHl7bWtu0POHV+ryPMi6ETOtR73Zov+iP57xev1c2ziOj+G5YxGPyWgHMRG8/N/gUllKtcA+FhAnqDhejFxw00= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: hT3AKk0VM1lomX.BXjmOOOt3yv1sV0Hfuy6bOBVZRRV4Mnw Q99L40XU9emaLbZY3Zf6rzcunhjC1xJJwNOBqZuRL43aw6jeIRpVJ12HM.Oo ZGwoZB0j5BGCTnPzk40T4ulr8RKA9at4vAqpRSdVuWze4MEGBMO1VlsJmaQt f1cOC7RJV0M7Ntkn7lZ..M9CHqXVLdtOf.btXJE37TbG51vlsX4Dm6F9ekdn aJs9SfEgIAimErvDwDT8MTmlYhz0e0ep6ARQKRen8nD0WSr2lI433Wje_7iR CGP5aTK0QcG97ZcTv8qo5HV8ZvYCHm9L8SRvmv.q5Wk3K7a8CpSH0LP.NeTW hdECpD0XgwodSTxXkiyGNN4TN6A4mhevRlS0suAAfk6gojOi.EaOMax7aqsP cefKPqeitZIpxlv7t8dKzvXAaZCOHE5khYoE86yZXNq0YymEbzHONsj3tWQP dF.aWSylDkMcerjXshXVr43xkpaObx7vkJllzbRs6Sy_g_cV7 X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp112.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Sep 2012 06:33:48 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'TeriAnn J. Wakeman'" , References: <504A947F.7080609@bradakis.com><20B006A574CE41679FA427CB2626BAA2@triumph><09a301cd8d76$a9d79e30$0601a8c0@randall><0777D9FD7ABB46CBBC4F9914E27CE595@GregPC><504B22CA.2040601@key-men.com> <504B2975.90602@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 08:33:40 -0500 Message-ID: <00ECB598B6064A12A14E3332B10C56C6@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <504B2975.90602@gmail.com> Thread-Index: Ac2Ns9vO/g3SHijsSHiMwBXDmXRRpgAEgLQw Subject: Re: [TR] Heritage Certificate X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Don't know about the "E" but ISTR a TR3 on eBay some years back that boasted 'matching numbers'. I just figured some guy put a new VIN plate on and matched up to the engine to show originality and try increase the value of his car. -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of TeriAnn J. Wakeman Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 6:18 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Heritage Certificate On 9/8/12 3:49 AM, George Richardson wrote: > My 57 TR3 is titled by the engine number. Good thing it's still > original. :-) > Once upon a time, there was a person who owned a Triumph wrecking yard who decided to have his employees build up a nice TR3 from parts in the yard. This was a project to fill in otherwise employee idle time. The car got built up, sent off to a body shop, painted black and when it came back they put a new interior kit in it (Red if I remember this fable correctly). The owner built the car out of assorted TR3 parts to sell and wanted to present it as an original car that was freshly restored. He decided that the engine & car should have matching numbers to show originality. So he bought a new commission plate and stamped it with the engine number. Until now it was the only car I know of that had a commission number that ended in an 'E'. ( TSXXXXXE) When the car was finished, it was entered into the Palo Alto British Car show and won a people's choice award then was sold for a princely sum. Hopefully the newly born TR3 lived happily ever since. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 09:31:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704922D066B for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 09:31:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from db3outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (db3ehsobe004.messaging.microsoft.com [213.199.154.142]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6C52D0656 for ; 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Sat, 8 Sep 2012 15:33:43 +0000 Received: from go.tcd.ie (winehub1.college.tcd.ie [134.226.252.14]) by imx1.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id E22C148F1 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:33:43 +0100 (IST) Received: from GOMAIL.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.69]) by winehub1.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.14]) with mapi; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:32:58 +0100 From: John Gillis To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:32:16 +0100 Thread-Topic: Triumph Repair Time Guide Thread-Index: AQHNjdc57dDjH6tgaEyooUrvDSlJNQ== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-IE acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: tcd.ie Subject: [TR] Triumph Repair Time Guide X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net have one for the TR2 John Gillis Senior Conservator ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 10:02:47 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA6A2D0394 for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Guess Ibm not getting that wiring harness in today. This is a dumb issue, but, wondering if anyone else dealt with it. TRF sells part #RG3 for the large grommet on the RHS of the firewall through which the wiring harness passes. This grommet is for a 1 7/8b hole and is the same part number for TR6. The hole in my car is 1 3/8b. TRF doesnbt list any other part. Moss only lists a 1 1/2b grommet for the TR4A and nothing for the TR6. Does anyone know either 1) the correct TRF part #; or 2) if the Moss part fits a 4A? Thanks much, Cliff ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 12:07:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B03CE2D066B for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 12:07:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A54C2D0639 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 12:03:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iec9 with SMTP id 9so1084334iec.14 for ; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 11:06:25 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=vt4vZrgFxmkkTOzKFUUEX5tFuaajfNKslo5EvNh2LsA=; b=MBURKiQdCmBoFXj4PoDTsJUya9RUc166v1uS2G+Mdv7+7X+htwhD7QC5C88/Sq2qxL VHGosaC2Pg8OJy1I28oGZdvaDLAsrFby1wiMBCqegaec7u5ejD21Y4LL9TaJ1SrUMsbW dQbL4XrfASzZKkCV/jbe2ERaTZb5RRWMDPF+sItpY3kOvBP7MgCnZo4qmV5rvCJR1Q+z QNfb3nE3qUNeyDcad+oqLlvB/Nv6FpoEWI5FGlfdVLJX7O2M5eYAiPEZfe6hietMp/CC YkS9RaGOIW6bMfXmAXyy9OfuyXikevmaZHGPIz5FgLWNTT5v/WvkXbeqXlQx64OlH9Tn p1Jg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.57.168 with SMTP id j8mr3559554igq.16.1347127585487; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 11:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 11:06:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <09a201cd8d76$46357be0$0601a8c0@randall> References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> <09a201cd8d76$46357be0$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 11:06:25 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Just click on the Stag link for the TR3 and on the TR3 link for the Stag. Geo On Fri, Sep 7, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Randall wrote: > > Does anybody have these for other models? TR6? GT6? TR8? > > are they posted online anywhere? > > I have them for Stag > http://tinyurl.com/98tq3sz > > and TR3 > http://tinyurl.com/9t5jm32 > > -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 12:19:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30ACD2D067A for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 12:19:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F91F2D0642 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 12:17:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wgbed3 with SMTP id ed3so456167wgb.20 for ; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 11:20:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=EneLhuTGzd1tGMRDW5w+p+sb2uz03NT7QuW29A2Phzw=; b=j7q+ktEewq3PMhxzCUM7gssReAtLW5vvlihvvsqdHKRBgvc8rYmI6/g5GgIzblGeZS gGqbOZ8vp5+mLfrMg4JuXNyzRpsEZ5tTRFpWY7ajLHTWF4fhhiZWNnlUGC/mc/aA3Mf2 mDD5pCl1MfEt7X2ahw3EKu1LdvJGBOdgn9KdkhkspYsSMfkfGSZaUhmBHOk9UZZhd7nm AfWq+j7YIMJt02zkqP5VQvEzqSln9vm3AJ0Xc3PXShBUFSRaBPklszZQ8Gp9wloxnC4c jKmPap/PyKn3sn0LgboDlncdl8+kMvD1xXL+ktp2os8Tb8A5+pneg/bEFZly9ps3L+gZ TYlQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.133.106 with SMTP id p84mr270777wei.55.1347128451253; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 11:20:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.132.214 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 11:20:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [80.28.107.115] In-Reply-To: <5C790DBDD9034DD5ADC8D2A20E22430C@Shemp> References: <5C790DBDD9034DD5ADC8D2A20E22430C@Shemp> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:20:51 +0100 Message-ID: From: ADRIAN DIX-DYER To: Cliff Hansen X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnzmWSxr2fiZIZJ3lrMNNui660vlaQQz2y9cuc1Oc9YxVwYaWBPFM9civtuNS/90EG1WIWm X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - wiring harness grommet X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Two quick solutions I can think of: 1, Make the hole in the bulkhead larger or 2, Make the grommet smaller by cutting and re glue with Superglue. It is very dependent on the circumference of the wiring loom that you have to hand. Adrian TR4A CT64306 O Wales UK. On 8 September 2012 17:05, Cliff Hansen wrote: > Guess Ib m not getting that wiring harness in today. > > This is a dumb issue, but, wondering if anyone else dealt with it. TRF > sells > part #RG3 for the large grommet on the RHS of the firewall through which > the > wiring harness passes. This grommet is for a 1 7/8b hole and is the same > part number for TR6. The hole in my car is 1 3/8b . TRF doesnb t list any > other part. Moss only lists a 1 1/2b grommet for the TR4A and nothing for > the TR6. > > Does anyone know either 1) the correct TRF part #; or 2) if the Moss part > fits > a 4A? > > Thanks much, > > Cliff > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/dixie4.wales@virgin.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 13:22:12 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD3C92D065F for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 13:22:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0318E2D064F for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 13:21:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lahd3 with SMTP id d3so452268lah.14 for ; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 12:24:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=d97HslEZO+XxopFPNQ2VE+sfRO+bTu1IY4J1h0pSqdM=; b=jyZHOGedgU2ehtOnOi4QtFftmop2se9i51m47LPZk9XMnjQIHrEJ4sUG+Rr/88QTZf UJuD3jMcaqMCOAF1qKe5h3EANrOd2rue948AzO0J+AXJ3mTlFNCFDAH9i59WezHrRmx1 JcQtD6dQyWaD52Lja6U6YeA7C3dpf5wTXi9ZBP/TPRmN/WrhmD3mnK+7cUvX99674dmy ToePWzxSQFWlnR+qbcWkag4LFjKqbi6owLV0ZtIYu16K+6KqkUOfU+kGtAnOZFft+lee 2ot+fdIFavKcc8A1Y/0sjpNX5A2Pky+gHLx2PZgAjg3c77NRo+ihiUDrvEOxFmGfFFv9 pZLg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.146.169 with SMTP id td9mr8247194lab.42.1347132244138; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 12:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 12:24:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5C790DBDD9034DD5ADC8D2A20E22430C@Shemp> References: <5C790DBDD9034DD5ADC8D2A20E22430C@Shemp> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 14:24:04 -0500 Message-ID: From: Don Hiscock To: Cliff Hansen Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - wiring harness grommet X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dunno the answer to either of your specific questions, but there are lotsa sources for grommets of all sizes if you decide you need something not available from your normal suppliers. This one, for example: http://www.britishwiring.com/Grommets-s/32.htm?searching=Y&sort=5&cat=32&show=100&page=1 Don Saint Louis 1962 TR3B TSF202L On 9/8/12, Cliff Hansen wrote: > Guess Ib m not getting that wiring harness in today. > > This is a dumb issue, but, wondering if anyone else dealt with it. TRF > sells > part #RG3 for the large grommet on the RHS of the firewall through which > the > wiring harness passes. This grommet is for a 1 7/8b hole and is the same > part number for TR6. The hole in my car is 1 3/8b . TRF doesnb t list any > other part. Moss only lists a 1 1/2b grommet for the TR4A and nothing for > the TR6. > > Does anyone know either 1) the correct TRF part #; or 2) if the Moss part > fits > a 4A? > > Thanks much, > > Cliff > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 13:38:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C8232D064D for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 13:38:57 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from col0-omc1-s13.col0.hotmail.com (col0-omc1-s13.col0.hotmail.com [65.55.34.23]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8D302D0640 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 13:38:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from COL122-DS10 ([65.55.34.7]) by col0-omc1-s13.col0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 8 Sep 2012 12:41:45 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [74.111.244.194] X-EIP: [dUaF1qbgeUscbFwmBN0GN47CsqbthXJk] X-Originating-Email: [peterara@msn.com] Message-ID: From: "Peter Arakelian" To: "Listers" Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 12:42:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MSN 9 Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 12:42:01 -0700 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2012 19:41:45.0410 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA95B220:01CD8DF9] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] tr6 engine mounts X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net OK, I need to replace mine. Engine is supported by a floor jack and 2x4. Any tips? Looks like getting out is easy enough, what about aligning when putting back in? Please answer off-list, too. I'm working on it... Thanks.. Peter 71 TR6 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 14:59:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701982D0659 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 14:59:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fipsb02.cogeco.net (smtp2.cogeco.ca [216.221.81.29]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5992D068B for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 14:59:02 -0600 (MDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AlYCAAGyS1BDwWks/2dsb2JhbAANOI4FsTRAPRYYAwIBAgFYCAEBrzaSdY4qgx8DlV2THw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,392,1344225600"; d="scan'208";a="54667962" Received: from d67-193-105-44.home3.cgocable.net (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([67.193.105.44]) by fipsb02.cogeco.net with ESMTP; 08 Sep 2012 17:01:55 -0400 Message-ID: <504BB224.1050300@cogeco.ca> Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 17:01:24 -0400 From: Art McEwen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120908-1, 09/08/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [TR] TR3A rear spring "fulcrum" bolt X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Is there really nothing but rust holding that odd triangular shaped head of that bolt against the frame? That front bolt is all that's holding the spring to the car now and I'm about to start applying lethal force, just wanted to check first.... Thanks, Art TS64989LO ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 15:30:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292282D0697 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 15:30:20 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.165]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B60DA2D04C4 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 15:30:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 21:33:08 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.110] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 21:33:08 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 21:33:08 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 346149.64819.bm@omp1015.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 20021 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2012 21:33:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=ZmFrBkcbA+LjZSGbMyeiXT5A5MoOuiEa6W8F6A2+v7Q9eecO7f9XBb2cRQWf/FzYjy4tLzwVj5pvu1R5fhVuz9J4Ad9/21EU1FLxVMLvEB7X+A/g4hV9R39kBsj6pzKPneT35qnu7WJo9MGqR3fJutz8gS7j4RXGkM8LvVdspO0= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1347139988; bh=mWF4MZcfb1j1dHtI6Klfqcz37SiclLODEW+XTD0gdT4=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=L/mQasUyDkpCfP9QRjW2rDrvZ3NZb+ewrbqnmX7F/R1ZYTsoCG/i+RFUT6sdb1Fh45anWHABOUx361ZEifm61AEhS25kR77nMFdP4uOWHYFIRSZgnI5BdQ9gbkkh1x6HYnCw2whEzvaUhHPx6i/oZFjgK+3VTLd1jDqHUQNosuY= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: PEExAFUVM1lOImtegyAw.DwbjMrO8MhkCswImaihgrQMv3f vLyWzvxKrALAOBXALkkO1CWPzPgMNbzsvIkJbtHY76ehdVvEUIuBB9y1q9QG fedAzZJbey1beMEbSd5VoFqs69cq6WzHRMB8Bp2vIz.G8gILwvyOGawALKLY aCZbHVV1OVkkFsg_CxCSmHb2ktfGrkPUrJcfmkph9RLbT6dU.f.dvCIE5IrP i.5KGiMaAzg8FlpT3ldTmHOX8tn4FumBJ6APc4YihVZgO1qZLj8joxUbU7xt eHLEHoXsOoO2jPKItKQRxHceM6kj2OJlm7NhXmuctn.gOGtWKFKvowhEye7x tvtypXOQ9adxY20ERCop3U2xEPqKxUn3TI2ghT5TQvHpKa8jjLrQCgvYw18g 0mUu4UX2Wc.ZjSCdzenGfGERLoPDRfkhtm.Cn_CRO.QSfayxLJPzi3T8uqD4 PEre.nI.PEARFvktEp_HZkSQNhcdnT.RJpqJxKEoB2EDZfsW. X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Sep 2012 21:33:08 +0000 UTC From: "Wbeech" To: "'Art McEwen'" , References: <504BB224.1050300@cogeco.ca> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:33:02 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2OBU4bRISdj+j+QA6hfg4CNrWYvwAAybbA In-Reply-To: <504BB224.1050300@cogeco.ca> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A rear spring "fulcrum" bolt X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Yup, that's pretty much it. Have not heard of any failures or availability of upgraded hardnesses for that piece. Moss & TRF think it is worth about $20, so it must be good! If everything is clean and tight, it is mostly 'shear' stress that it must endure. Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Art McEwen Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 4:01 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR3A rear spring "fulcrum" bolt Is there really nothing but rust holding that odd triangular shaped head of that bolt against the frame? That front bolt is all that's holding the spring to the car now and I'm about to start applying lethal force, just wanted to check first.... Thanks, Art TS64989LO ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 16:30:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840692D064D for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:30:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm40-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm40-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 890E12D0639 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:30:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.54] by nm40.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 22:33:11 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.130] by tm7.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 22:33:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp217.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 08 Sep 2012 22:33:11 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1347143591; bh=HOflx+NGijNdpMREPXp5lfL/z2XtkoaTinkpPrVASQI=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=bkxwtLuCj/F0Sv1spz75cFQXzjbhPXQWX04HYBM4QXnsFmX1bfNpRe/XHlQIht98956p8pBoCJQnSL+Q9U7fg3lSxKEnpGPV47wV1q/Jfx8XrtEjxBO3I4NNJLDOxB1UrDhzq8brdGQPHpSUawk5OD6JrADqqJ5KhHVvKfyL9Eg= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 698144.96877.bm@smtp217.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: 1KaTlt0VM1l4JwQNeF1Qi_Nuitrp_Z2Uk2SeR8YQNAIaxu4 F1O1HExI4E4WHTWglAnDPW5WJ8_sxAMMMmvK0IyotOxxaxdm0lL7aeu7cD8G 7QIzl4Cjw0O8tIzwRzDD3FYtfdRLXqRFQBEqjVDVfe1JDgfYuvTHwzSjum7G PN_sMWDyySOCMTFGaG_MeaZO5a7LhgYMVq6fCpoS2SNaP37DPbwY_XBDNfnm JKSNh2njUSqlcu5qRO5f34y_eM5l24zaakmiFYVZ3r6mNBxDez8ryOvYJLP7 OtnDL2ahUrl2pP04TcVTGTFRMrVdV1q56ww_OUKUHghdq_mZsCY_CBv0TIAO XG9v0E9uKIjtvCBNPIVgIISjE.SwspMgoq67QRJEUWJJ9oJkSNnORCIVhUz. mF5McxXh.uAthUSNmSsmafoPSjHZQbl80.ISXptzvFND4lzQzoyMjsQclllt JYyxZIQKl3EdAbaua7Bu65xth.0ny_8qyumovTmbmRhg444qzgCPgpe6yZLQ kEeXq_Tr.Lj4yA10HJgPgl_vq9odnhPHaiIdWTFEsjzo- X-Yahoo-SMTP: MDGza_qswBAgyXr4jGOoN7xw7ESbp_tRSUhNZ0MvX6drvGE- Received: from bboffice (bill_beecher@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp217.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 08 Sep 2012 15:33:11 -0700 PDT From: To: Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 17:33:05 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2OEehIqEcSpJdcTseRugjUfnLwJA== Subject: [TR] CA & PA reps at VTR? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Copied this from the BCF today, surely there will be more than one representative from the golden & keystone states? BTW, if anyone is travelling down Texas Hwy 36 to VTR, I would like to join you in Abilene. Bill "I was at breakfast the other morning with some TTR members and found only one person from California has registered for the VTR convention in Galveston this fall. And no body from Pennsylvania. I know I will be there, as will Randy but I wonder who else? Anyone waiting until the last minute to register? It's going to be a wonderful event and I hope to see some of you-all there. http://www.kingswayrc.com/txtr/VTR2012/index.html Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9472D0646 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:45:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882112D063D for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:40:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q88MgxvV013736 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:42:59 -0400 Received: from core-moc001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moc001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.195.1]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 378B3E000089 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:42:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <16f27.44d35b93.3d7d23f2@cs.com> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:42:59 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [99.46.204.207] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347144179; bh=pT+0cBLQbuXRFPZsUfwtHlRmutLv6w91DO95JYUSfcY=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=L1Y0xIeQlQlHbzZW8Z5jP6uHBVCsicCKMa3zUFZi2E98YkKbkd6JJHePNeKPoBxzE XT5DlYslbyQbqAHr6JYyar6ZThStv2n2KoaztMCpuhE610Q65yKjLXMuP8QTMQdvai lrLx31Y34+DQFb5Zo32m12nhoxlz4mDi2uxiSjeo= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:422898848:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b504bc9f3035e X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A rear spring "fulcrum" bolt X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net At one point in time there was a small metal tab weled to the frame to prevent the bolt from turning. It is/was up against the flat part of the bolt head. My car still had one of them. Dave In a message dated 9/8/2012 4:02:18 PM Central Daylight Time, amcewen2@cogeco.ca writes: > Is there really nothing but rust holding that odd triangular shaped head > of that bolt against the frame? That front bolt is all that's holding > the spring to the car now and I'm about to start applying lethal force, > just wanted to check first.... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 16:46:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E6A42D065D for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:46:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EC5D2D0631 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:46:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.194.8.208]) by p3plsmtpa06-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id wmpj1j0024VJViW01mpkbH; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 15:49:45 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Art McEwen'" , References: <504BB224.1050300@cogeco.ca> In-Reply-To: <504BB224.1050300@cogeco.ca> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:49:51 -0400 Message-ID: <003001cd8e14$4356bb20$ca043160$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQKZfIdXmV96UVG/g0PnMlOOYIiG7pXpLz0g Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A rear spring "fulcrum" bolt X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Nothing but rust perhaps, but that's the most dreaded bolt on the TR3.......... Andrew Uprichard -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Art McEwen Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 5:01 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR3A rear spring "fulcrum" bolt Is there really nothing but rust holding that odd triangular shaped head of that bolt against the frame? That front bolt is all that's holding the spring to the car now and I'm about to start applying lethal force, just wanted to check first.... Thanks, Art TS64989LO ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 17:01:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 797C62D0641 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 17:01:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.196]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43AF92D0627 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 16:53:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BobPC (ool-44c75d75.dyn.optonline.net [68.199.93.117]) by mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MA100EEJZPJ0B40@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 18:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2012 18:56:04 -0400 From: Bob In-reply-to: To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-index: Ac2N7RHbzSwMtza1Sd2q1dyRGP1MWAAJ4+pg References: Subject: [TR] Heritage Certificate X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net When someone states "matching numbers" it means the chassis, engine and body numbers are the same ones the car had when it left the factory. These numbers would be found on the Heritage Certificate. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 08:33:40 -0500 From: "Wbeech" To: "'TeriAnn J. Wakeman'" , Subject: Re: [TR] Heritage Certificate Message-ID: <00ECB598B6064A12A14E3332B10C56C6@bboffice> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Don't know about the "E" but ISTR a TR3 on eBay some years back that boasted 'matching numbers'. I just figured some guy put a new VIN plate on and matched up to the engine to show originality and try increase the value of his car. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 18:19:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85EBC2D064F for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:19:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa01-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.85]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A4AF82D063E for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:17:52 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 27543 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2012 00:20:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.184.166.234) by p3plsmtpa01-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.85) with ESMTP; 09 Sep 2012 00:20:45 -0000 Message-ID: <0461E83299C14FFB9FE51AD9BD3FB199@Spitfire> From: "Dave" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:15:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] Heritage Certificate X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net on American cars, the numbers actually match (are the same). I believe that's what TeriAnn was suggesting someone had done to a british car -----Original Message----- From: Bob Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 5:56 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Heritage Certificate When someone states "matching numbers" it means the chassis, engine and body numbers are the same ones the car had when it left the factory. These numbers would be found on the Heritage Certificate. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 18:19:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B9A2D0657 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:19:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa01-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.85]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A09712D063D for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:17:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 27550 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2012 00:20:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.184.166.234) by p3plsmtpa01-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.85) with ESMTP; 09 Sep 2012 00:20:46 -0000 Message-ID: <4C03C48F820148D0995938A8CE0FFDEC@Spitfire> From: "Dave" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:17:26 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] CA & PA reps at VTR? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dallas is about 5 hours from Galveston. it may or may not be a convenient way station, but if anyone needs a bed and a garage (or a meal), you can stop here. contact me off list dave northrup dallas, tx -----Original Message----- From: bill_beecher@flash.net Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 5:33 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] CA & PA reps at VTR? Copied this from the BCF today, surely there will be more than one representative from the golden & keystone states? BTW, if anyone is travelling down Texas Hwy 36 to VTR, I would like to join you in Abilene. Bill ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 18:22:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 243532D0650 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:22:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C45C92D0614 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:22:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LKXkseq9 c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=ADibwhNc4XEA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=vD0lB7WbTS4A:10 a=mBlrqGzx6aW4SkmUa6YA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55002] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 51/BF-21812-702EB405; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 00:25:43 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Art McEwen'" , References: <504BB224.1050300@cogeco.ca> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 17:26:01 -0700 Message-ID: <0a6201cd8e21$b177b610$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <504BB224.1050300@cogeco.ca> Thread-Index: Ac2OBUb01xgKU5P+TTCW623r8QSWWQAHAP3Q Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A rear spring "fulcrum" bolt X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Worth noting, perhaps, that the head of the pin is tapped for a puller. I used a bottoming tap to clean out the tapped hole, then some hardened threaded rod, nuts & 'setup' washers from MMC plus sockets and a bit of pipe to form a makeshift puller. Worked for me, on two different cars now. I also soaked the area in PB Blaster for several weeks, and beat on things from time to time to help the PBB penetrate. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 18:34:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2602D0657 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:34:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79F1A2D061C for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:25:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H+ZZMpki c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=ZxVny_6QjDsA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=2ZqCTPE6sj4A:10 a=V9H8278vAAAA:20 a=V_QVz9srAAAA:20 a=Se_jfR4pAAAA:20 a=n4_hSFlPdO7vc5ZABswA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=VQoNZpC-gOEA:10 a=DizIU2xwkkEA:10 a=PpvQEwnPbwYA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55003] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A4/C9-15382-B82EB405; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 00:27:56 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Triumphs'" References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com><09a201cd8d76$46357be0$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 17:28:14 -0700 Message-ID: <0a6301cd8e22$004de6b0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2N7UBZSzDD0sEvT6+wX6GB6FR5sAANIldA Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Just click on the Stag link for the TR3 and on the TR3 link > for the Stag. D'oh !! Ok, I'll try again: Stag: http://tinyurl.com/9t5jm32 TR3: http://tinyurl.com/98tq3sz -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 18:50:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5856D2D0656 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:50:20 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth19.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth19.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.30]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DE472D0640 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:43:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 29929 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2012 00:46:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.184.166.234) by smtpauth19.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.30) with ESMTP; 09 Sep 2012 00:46:49 -0000 Message-ID: From: "Dave" To: "Randall" , References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> <09a201cd8d76$46357be0$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <09a201cd8d76$46357be0$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:46:31 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: [TR] somewhat off topic - bicycles and garages and triumphs X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I know that some of you have unlimited garage space (I'm jealous) and some do not. I fall into the latter category. I'm thinking about mounting the bicycles on either the wall or the ceiling any recommendations or warnings? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 19:42:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D9B02D0645 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:42:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF9B42D0332 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:42:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LKXkseq9 c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=gmxK7z8dNFEA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=peEbWCSlHYoA:10 a=jnKQ5C-eJbaAZAPCHLsA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id BA/20-21812-5B4FB405; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 01:45:25 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Dave'" , References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com><09a201cd8d76$46357be0$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 18:45:44 -0700 Message-ID: <0a6a01cd8e2c$d451faa0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2OJYdjtwW3i1v1T9u/M8QWYSsReQABtjrg Subject: Re: [TR] somewhat off topic - bicycles and garages and triumphs X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I'm thinking about mounting the bicycles on either the wall > or the ceiling Mine are stored with those vinyl-coated hooks from Home Depot, screwed into the overhead joists over in a corner. Only problem is the Stag on jackstands in front of them, which kind of blocks the access. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 8 20:55:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 262112D0675 for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 20:55:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97EC62D066B for ; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 20:55:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lahd3 with SMTP id d3so558471lah.14 for ; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 19:58:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=GqfCIje71xWbIaEvPilHEJn8/tYuE+4SonUCJ2iucsU=; b=h64MxowH/FRxGp8KB2s+gAzgNx2WUP90mjMYFPg+WqV7Y3Wgp/0qdv8Po6AxXf49AS Iy82+gEF7EC4QPKdlcxeCyY4gpGtIzNDCf+XXLfhZFYmIe1FsVYJyzeb7G3Z79RY4Du+ ifDWrI5YIdMVH560AbsT16tPK5yyHDf+nhNYoqDmfbVtp7E7T9Tmr9UBL3/Aq6TyLpcs ELJdE5uQOeJ3kX70EIW1rHnWwkrbHxLf+Uu0r5pxchyz1+x+mK8Axgiu2mYk5IH9+kQ2 b2aQoagGT3m6NNXdNLQ5+cn1U4C0zZB9hxkCbsyTdEBsFCwhWAt+eAKpOIzJyJCU2OzP pojw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.146.169 with SMTP id td9mr8865272lab.42.1347159488696; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 19:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:58:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> <09a201cd8d76$46357be0$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 21:58:08 -0500 Message-ID: From: Don Hiscock To: Dave Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, Randall Subject: Re: [TR] somewhat off topic - bicycles and garages and triumphs X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I've been very happy with the type of rack that mounts to a vertical wall, holds either front or rear tire, and lets the bike hang like it's "riding" the wall. I have three in my basement side-by-side with the bikes alternating up-down-up. This lets them hang closer together than any other way I've found. I got mine at REI. They're available from lots of vendors. Highly recommended. Don 1962 TR3B TSF202L On 9/8/12, Dave wrote: > I know that some of you have unlimited garage space (I'm jealous) and some > do not. > > I fall into the latter category. > > I'm thinking about mounting the bicycles on either the wall or the ceiling > > any recommendations or warnings? > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 09:38:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42DA22C0CAB for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:38:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3C42C0C9F for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:37:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iec9 with SMTP id 9so2242517iec.14 for ; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 08:40:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=9GOUFiP5QSpmrGrNBIgpA0Zcn/jLk590NgLdLhqeeA8=; b=SAWBR34eXtyNddbTiQZUtqVLF0pyTa0wD9mBhtXBgirs3r5XeOc/7iapvJxwfT6Vvb LlxikMGklt3Te06omMj2OkOOWjKRzlLWIl5oL0Bg/erMuIbHl7cLtfSxeJ20PLxYp0jT vYnEpnbfDxOyfONzYiqoK74r975siL127lW4b/svHbl9SVyUo5N8i7/f6Kr1U0kcmYdB Rk8lSMJiORIcZt1v9M5AJreh7MzKFkUZGGerNKqVZNsO915AsuFugJdF1DeQbNDeInVh cHoWwXow2sCT8CUZVoqSpVZN08aGuAvm8ldvyeCPLdVX7YeLWd5HGvIJIg9w1aIYQ9oj Peeg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.213.39 with SMTP id np7mr7809322igc.51.1347205245750; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 08:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 08:40:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0a6201cd8e21$b177b610$0601a8c0@randall> References: <504BB224.1050300@cogeco.ca> <0a6201cd8e21$b177b610$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 08:40:45 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A rear spring "fulcrum" bolt X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Randall wrote: > Worth noting, perhaps, that the head of the pin is tapped for a puller... > I'm (sometimes) a 'plan-ahead' guy -- I cleaned that head out with a tap and have been soaking the area with PBlaster every time I'm under there for the past year or so. Will continue until such time as I need to remove it. The 'long-game' approach worked on the cap tube/tstat housing which came undone easily after years of soaking. I wonder what else I should be doing this to. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 09:55:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756F52C0D4D for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:55:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fipsb03.cogeco.net (smtp.cogeco.net [216.221.81.25]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2242C0D4A for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 09:54:48 -0600 (MDT) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApMBABS8TFBDwWks/2dsb2JhbAANOL54AQEBBDhAARALGAkWDwkDAgECAUUGDQEHAQGvGpJLixOGNgOVXZMf X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,126,1344225600"; d="scan'208";a="349355399" Received: from d67-193-105-44.home3.cgocable.net (HELO [127.0.0.1]) ([67.193.105.44]) by fipsb03.cogeco.net with ESMTP; 09 Sep 2012 11:57:42 -0400 Message-ID: <504CBC54.4050802@cogeco.ca> Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 11:57:08 -0400 From: Art McEwen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120713 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randall References: <504BB224.1050300@cogeco.ca> <0a6201cd8e21$b177b610$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <0a6201cd8e21$b177b610$0601a8c0@randall> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120909-0, 09/09/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A rear spring "fulcrum" bolt X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks all, I'm chasing a banging noise in the rear and I thought maybe the front silent block was perished and allowing the spring to move around on the bolt but it's not that bad so I'm just bolting everything back up. I think what I'll do over the winter is construct a vice to apply inward pressure to the bolt and maybe tighten it every couple of weeks to see if that removes it. I think the noise is the result of the shocks sliding on their mounting bracket holes which have become more slots then holes. On 9/8/2012 8:26 PM, Randall wrote: > Worth noting, perhaps, that the head of the pin is tapped for a puller. I > used a bottoming tap to clean out the tapped hole, then some hardened > threaded rod, nuts & 'setup' washers from MMC plus sockets and a bit of pipe > to form a makeshift puller. > > Worked for me, on two different cars now. I also soaked the area in PB > Blaster for several weeks, and beat on things from time to time to help the > PBB penetrate. > > -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 15:03:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 701E82C0CA3 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 15:03:30 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from ch1outboundpool.messaging.microsoft.com (ch1ehsobe002.messaging.microsoft.com [216.32.181.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960A12C0CA1 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 15:03:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail86-ch1-R.bigfish.com (10.43.68.229) by CH1EHSOBE010.bigfish.com (10.43.70.60) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:06:03 +0000 Received: from mail86-ch1 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail86-ch1-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3354920144 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:06:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: CIP:134.226.1.156; KIP:(null); UIP:(null); IPV:NLI; H:imx2.tcd.ie; RD:imx2.tcd.ie; EFVD:NLI X-SpamScore: -1 X-BigFish: VPS-1(zz11fbIzz1d18h1202h1d1ahzzz2dh668h839h944hd25hf0ah107ah1220h1288h12a5h12a9h1155h) Received: from mail86-ch1 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail86-ch1 (MessageSwitch) id 1347224760957940_19647; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:06:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from CH1EHSMHS015.bigfish.com (snatpool2.int.messaging.microsoft.com [10.43.68.233]) by mail86-ch1.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E830C46008A for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:06:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imx2.tcd.ie (134.226.1.156) by CH1EHSMHS015.bigfish.com (10.43.70.15) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.225.23; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:06:00 +0000 Received: from Vams.imx2 (imx2.tcd.ie [134.226.1.156]) by imx2.tcd.ie (Postfix) with SMTP id 2105E68003 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 22:06:00 +0100 (IST) Received: from imx2.tcd.ie ([134.226.1.156]) by imx2.tcd.ie ([134.226.1.156]) with SMTP (gateway) id A0659F1D184; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 22:06:00 +0100 Received: from go.tcd.ie (winehub2.college.tcd.ie [134.226.252.15]) by imx2.tcd.ie (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A86068003 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 22:06:00 +0100 (IST) Received: from GOMAIL.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.69]) by winehub2.college.tcd.ie ([134.226.252.15]) with mapi; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 22:06:10 +0100 From: John Gillis To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 22:06:09 +0100 Thread-Topic: H4 carb back! Thread-Index: AQHNjs7va/I4O2peo0CMaVIzWChfVA== Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-IE acceptlanguage: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AntiVirus-Status: MessageID = A1659F1D184 X-AntiVirus-Status: Host: imx2.tcd.ie X-AntiVirus-Status: Action Taken: X-AntiVirus-Status: NONE X-AntiVirus-Status: Checked by TCD Vexira. (version=1.60.5 VDF=10.130.61) X-OriginatorOrg: tcd.ie Subject: [TR] H4 carb back! X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net After fixing my leaking jet, on the oracle advice! I put my colo(u)r tune on this weekend, I discovered back carb running rich, no problem, wind up the adjusting nut, problem- with the nut fully wound up, the mixture is just about right, but the jet is still not near flush with the top. I know it should be possible to adjust right up to a flush position, of course this would be a very weak mixture. But is there a reason why the jet will not reach the top position. This is the carb I replaced the cork seals on and I am wondering if I could have put something in the wrong place. Regards John 1954 TR2 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 15:44:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA7C2C0CA0 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 15:44:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2D05A2C0C8A for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 15:41:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Sep 2012 21:44:11 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.113] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Sep 2012 21:44:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1018.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 09 Sep 2012 21:44:11 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 685467.29181.bm@omp1018.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 16801 invoked from network); 9 Sep 2012 21:44:11 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=ESoWwimakwDqFnqhM9+nfOR2dRbrbCKsp5MiCEwNJtiRTLip4zFneQeHGjsBD+ip8RErUXD/zTDXJLnOAQfKvyFxnkgQHULelAQD7HDbcrv0sOkGpAe0TE8WVSZoc4uQ2jGLBHgouUzQ7YBBkAATj6H3jCBNp5qT8CI7A99Ku5Q= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1347227051; bh=12GavGgzZWnppzQXN+5UvnMcu41mSyX72SKejhl+OTo=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:In-Reply-To:X-MimeOLE; b=E6BEZv7JwPpXWTFqrvbXj4NTYFcfdFYQpC3BW279lx38IDMrzXzc1taAk0R5rdAGL8SB8Ge4J+dsolD1z2on9gQOXO1vD2L0oaLD67D+y5AnRFb9laVNNw05YUF10jQQ4cWssSWtAwCAle6ljukR40iaWUHRGi4twZ3nNz8PuOE= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: QBNzOoMVM1kzFaEwvhjyP.qyXpcMveDEl1ZeKpWNdrHetri cQ9lNx6bryLomXdqivts82jXlszKyf2N.MHBrXs2X1Wcx27Cd1TgJ3oEQGSu AvCq.xMXL4yqVdL.vUgDCnY_XkMJwPDax5GaM7Sh7NLXXT7EtwXtSbF2dMKo IfSoNT6.mWihZDEwV7B9TFe9VNY44MA0M_o0bz34xLu1oXJw0jQC2MF6zfep vXDtq01CXtYiFx2kiQnHpyRWlVBZH1xKvnuHuegRZ8Orjj4koMwV1GfxvJkO 9umc1GMhaxTaEayMXjwaegP6vJYuUpYJGPi.y7A5a36K17eYPla3qcYTBXyY L6rZvrKxz4wtdAPT3dQp5nZDtUnnRisBffAwrXxTeNyHp3aTgQksij9dRyEm n.QZeSRpsrWf9Wlh9YfZhDiEg.b3MNKGZeZJ43VQi7FzSPEA89aqRndKxUqP VNXvy1CMDTqaSwyRj404gnb_paZAKCTJJN_ykm5VyT0VsQzVmnCGSBJTf9t8 7shDlbmjP X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp108.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 09 Sep 2012 14:44:11 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'John Gillis'" , References: Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 16:44:05 -0500 Message-ID: <4C850E01C211408E96D2D89F77C921CE@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AQHNjs7va/I4O2peo0CMaVIzWChfVJeCiEmQ In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] H4 carb back! X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Have you re-centered your jets? You should be able to hear a definitive 'clunk' after you raise and release the slide. Is the jet pushed up all the way into the jet barrel? Sometimes when you wind up the adjusting nut, the jet does not follow. Could there be a disparity in the thickness of your large cork washer, the one behind the 13/16" hex. If you substituted a thicker neoprene/viton o-ring this could hold the jet back. Just some thoughts, I'm sure after a short respite you will take another look at it and it will be apparent, not too many things that could cause this. Of course, If it is producing the proper mixture and not leaking, leave it alone and enjoy the drive. Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John Gillis Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 4:06 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] H4 carb back! After fixing my leaking jet, on the oracle advice! I put my colo(u)r tune on this weekend, I discovered back carb running rich, no problem, wind up the adjusting nut, problem- with the nut fully wound up, the mixture is just about right, but the jet is still not near flush with the top. I know it should be possible to adjust right up to a flush position, of course this would be a very weak mixture. But is there a reason why the jet will not reach the top position. This is the carb I replaced the cork seals on and I am wondering if I could have put something in the wrong place. Regards John 1954 TR2 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 19:00:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E95D2C0CA2 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 19:00:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222932C0C9F for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 18:50:54 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=rmi.net; b=szU6ZP8F+w4vJvz+lDgTrovFsdh/SoEqtYm190lw0V+O9ReCqHf0iWtjd+Vt4Nkm; h=Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:CC:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [69.81.21.129] (helo=localhost.localdomain) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TAsFs-0005WE-RJ; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 20:53:36 -0400 Message-ID: <504D3A27.9090500@rmi.net> Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 19:53:59 -0500 From: Roger Elliott User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120806 Thunderbird/14.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Gillis References: In-Reply-To: X-ELNK-Trace: 007d46394eab33d9f572e6f2f0078041873357b346419b009835c6001546a01c548b785378294e88350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.81.21.129 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] H4 carb back! X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have heard that some of the kits for HS4 carbs come with washers that are too thick. So there is no way to make the jets come up flush. Maybe the same thing is true with H4 Roger Elliott On 09/09/2012 04:06 PM, John Gillis wrote: > After fixing my leaking jet, on the oracle advice! I put my colo(u)r tune on > this weekend, I discovered back carb running rich, no problem, wind up the > adjusting nut, problem- with the nut fully wound up, the mixture is just about > right, but the jet is still not near flush with the top. I know it should be > possible to adjust right up to a flush position, of course this would be a > very weak mixture. But is there a reason why the jet will not reach the top > position. This is the carb I replaced the cork seals on and I am wondering if > I could have put something in the wrong place. > Regards > John > 1954 TR2 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 20:26:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCA6E2C0CAE for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 20:26:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.enterhost.com (mail05.enterhost.com [208.65.128.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB64A2C0CAA for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 20:22:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 99-187-242-14.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.187.242.14] by mail05.enterhost.com with SMTP; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:25:17 -0500 From: "G.D. Huggins" Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:25:11 -0500 Message-Id: To: triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [TR] TR4A - OD not engaging. Not enough fluid? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net All, I just changed the fluids for the first time on the TR4A. Took my first drive this evening. When I went to engage the A-Type OD, it did not. The solenoid is working like a champ.. Is it possible that I did not put enough fluid in the gearbox, even though it was starting to run out the filling hole? Having never replaced the fluid in the gearbox before, I'm not sure what else to think. Does it just take some time after a fluid replacement for the OD to build up enough pressure on the initial use? Thanks in advance. Cheers, Guy D. Huggins 1965 Triumph TR4A CTC 63569LO Online project diary at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 20:41:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9821E2C0CB3 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 20:41:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2CB2C0C86 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 20:35:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iec9 with SMTP id 9so2854002iec.14 for ; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 19:38:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=C5X57vnRRy1SEZ2YBFPqnW/anPtfZxFxDFNxPXmOyGQ=; b=qRPVEA6Nx4ilFHbt9FzYXwQE9buaonHRS9MPBbgrbeXCs2fuTDwI7Pt8dueLt+uaWF EItozJL1KbGmB3320S4bnZsRgd/LDjTJkuaXH3M0Z60AnsKlWAunbB3LNYiBJ8yGBAOz DrqypZqOjYOCXqdNIGrn8u8WQCYhGFjT5GijtN3ijZDTMNeqo6CKbt0PpdZ1Tb+qz0wb ePUgi5NHsw0SGPCMHJ1rZ5r8gf1kngxhKNzrIprzPmXbuG17ZDRa9PgWFtclo9ffnFvq M8m1OcFFPXROUoGcWdIjNqxP0/2oQpfp/69hEU1wDwlppCf4gPArqfG0WLg/3TVO4roY bO3A== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.155.129 with SMTP id vw1mr8926866igb.11.1347244726182; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 19:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 19:38:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 19:38:46 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: "G.D. Huggins" , Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - OD not engaging. Not enough fluid? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:25 PM, G.D. Huggins wrote: > Is it possible that I did not put enough fluid in the gearbox, even though > it > was starting to run out the filling hole? > > > You usually can't fill both the gearbox and the OD all in one go. You either have to wait awhile and add more or run things a bit and add more. I think you'll find that it will now accept more oil. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 21:30:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 358152C0CB3 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:30:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E4082C0CB0 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:30:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=VPlfbqzX c=1 sm=0 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=vC-TMZye1bMA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=S6SUvr51CLwA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Hqk9H_ReAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=vZ9XfiQmBsiJfu5hykgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=SjPjmvP9_5AA:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.84.49.244 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:54926] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 52/82-01394-86F5D405; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 03:32:56 +0000 Message-ID: <12FBEA0B16F54FD0A9BBDFAA9449014E@GregPC> From: "Greg Lemon" To: "Geo Hahn" , "G.D. Huggins" , "Triumphs" References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 22:32:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - OD not engaging. Not enough fluid? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Agree with Geo, an old BMC mechanic and buddy of mine suggested jacking the front end of the car way up before adding the recommended amount of oil into the gearbox, letting gravity help to pursuade the fluid back into the O/D. Greg Lemon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geo Hahn" To: "G.D. Huggins" ; "Triumphs" Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 9:38 PM Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - OD not engaging. Not enough fluid? > On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:25 PM, G.D. Huggins wrote: > >> Is it possible that I did not put enough fluid in the gearbox, even >> though >> it >> was starting to run out the filling hole? >> >> >> > You usually can't fill both the gearbox and the OD all in one go. You > either have to wait awhile and add more or run things a bit and add more. > > I think you'll find that it will now accept more oil. > > Geo > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 9 21:42:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88F2F2C0C80 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:42:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.110]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAA532C0CB0 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 21:40:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Spitfire ([76.184.166.234]) by p3plsmtpa06-09.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id xFj41j00453lu5001Fj5o1; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 20:43:05 -0700 Message-ID: <2F2B69E4B2A04601AE0F96F288160157@Spitfire> From: "Dave" To: "Triumphs" References: <12FBEA0B16F54FD0A9BBDFAA9449014E@GregPC> In-Reply-To: <12FBEA0B16F54FD0A9BBDFAA9449014E@GregPC> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 22:41:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - OD not engaging. Not enough fluid? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I was also told to do that. -----Original Message----- From: Greg Lemon Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 10:32 PM To: Geo Hahn ; G.D. Huggins ; Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - OD not engaging. Not enough fluid? Agree with Geo, an old BMC mechanic and buddy of mine suggested jacking the front end of the car way up before adding the recommended amount of oil into the gearbox, letting gravity help to pursuade the fluid back into the O/D. Greg Lemon ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 10 07:43:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0623A2C0C97 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:43:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s20.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s20.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 924872C0BD5 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:35:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU152-W12 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s20.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Mon, 10 Sep 2012 06:38:15 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [198.208.251.21] From: John Reed To: triumph list Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:38:14 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2012 13:38:15.0259 (UTC) FILETIME=[878C42B0:01CD8F59] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A rear spring "fulcrum" bolt -- rear shock mount X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I had a similar banging noise on my TR3 caused by a loose rear shock that I couldn't tighten sufficiently. ISTR it was difficult to get a wrench or socket on the fastener on the outboard shock side. I replaced the hex head bolts with socket head bolts -- the kind that take a hex key or allen wrench in the head. I put the bolt in with the socket head on the outboard side and a nyloc nut on the inboard side of the bracket. This allowed me to get a good grip on the bolt so I could torque it down enough to keep it tight. I did that around 14 years ago and haven't had a problem with it since. > Thanks all, I'm chasing a banging noise in the rear ... > ...I think the noise is the result of > the shocks sliding on their mounting bracket holes which have become > more slots then holes. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 10 07:43:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E942C0D1D for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:43:51 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail1.blastcomm.com (mail1.blastcomm.com [66.151.17.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80D022C0C9F for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 07:41:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: from PhiSchLSpare101 ([70.42.90.253]) by mail1.blastcomm.com (IceWarp 9.3.2) with SMTP id UWB86558; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:43:58 -0500 Message-ID: <1B09D6D02CE3443CB6211918D8BFA63A@PhiSchLSpare101> From: "Michael Marr" To: "Randall" , "'Dave'" , References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com><09a201cd8d76$46357be0$0601a8c0@randall> <0a6a01cd8e2c$d451faa0$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <0a6a01cd8e2c$d451faa0$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 08:43:54 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-Spam-IndexStatus: 0 Subject: Re: [TR] somewhat off topic - bicycles and garages and triumphs X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am a sailor and. therefore, like to complicate such matters :). I use a system of blocks (pulleys to the landlubber) to lift the bicycles up to the ceiling. Remember to use the largest practical diameter wheel in the blocks that you select, because frictional forces will then be reduced. Ideally, the tackle you design will be chock-a-block (ie the lower block will be tight against the upper block) before the handlebars hit the ceiling. Yes, this is indeed the derivation of the term chock-a-block, meaning packed in tightly. And, further off topic, my Dad, who was a product of the Royal Navy, used to complain about being "chocker" when he was fed-up - same derivation. I love the English language! Capt. Mike (Master, Gt Lakes & Inland Waters, 100 Gross Tons) -------------------------------------------------- From: "Randall" Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 8:45 PM To: "'Dave'" ; Subject: Re: [TR] somewhat off topic - bicycles and garages and triumphs >> I'm thinking about mounting the bicycles on either the wall >> or the ceiling > > Mine are stored with those vinyl-coated hooks from Home Depot, screwed > into > the overhead joists over in a corner. > > Only problem is the Stag on jackstands in front of them, which kind of > blocks the access. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mmarr@notwires.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 10 09:20:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECCC72C0D27 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:20:12 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp1.execulink.net (smtp1.execulink.net [69.63.44.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C391E2C0D11 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:20:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-13108.pppoe.execulink.com ([216.75.189.61] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TB5pC-00025F-Ii for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:22:58 -0400 Message-ID: <504E05E3.9030906@execulink.com> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:23:15 -0400 From: Angelo Graham User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120824 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR2/3 windshield frame. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello List: Trying to get a better fit on the body to windshield frame seal, took the shield off to install a new seal. Turns out a couple of the screws securing the bottom frame to the top and sides are stripped. Also found a hole - can't tell if it is threaded - in the center of the bottom rail. The bottom rail is loose, not hugging the glass completely. Is there supposed to be a screw in the center of the bottom rail? Trying to deal with the stripped screws in the corner. Is the frame plated brass or steel? To get the bottom rail closer to the glass, what about having the glass sealed to the frame with some sort of sealer or tape and clamped until it sets and grips the glass? Thanks for any help with this one. Angelo Graham ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 10 09:46:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7AE2C0D28 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:46:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa01-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa01-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [72.167.82.87]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2602C2C0D15 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 09:45:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 23130 invoked from network); 10 Sep 2012 15:48:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.194.0.14) by p3plsmtpa01-07.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (72.167.82.87) with ESMTP; 10 Sep 2012 15:48:17 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'Angelo Graham'" , References: <504E05E3.9030906@execulink.com> In-Reply-To: <504E05E3.9030906@execulink.com> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:48:16 -0400 Message-ID: <009401cd8f6b$b2c85b00$18591100$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQElIHUHOaLDh3y0OUrSUghF+uEqbZjUlWnw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] TR2/3 windshield frame. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Angelo: No screw at the bottom, The threads are in a small "L"-shaped piece which receives screws from the bottom and the sides. This piece almost invariable rots out. The bigger problem is when the screws snap off and have to be drilled out. There is a tape which goes around the glass: in my experience it works well to glue the tape to the glass, trim the excess and then use plenty of soap and hot water to slide the glass into the frame and tighten the screws. The windshield is plated brass. Andrew Uprichard. Just finished a windscreen/shield on a small mouth -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Angelo Graham Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 11:23 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR2/3 windshield frame. Hello List: Trying to get a better fit on the body to windshield frame seal, took the shield off to install a new seal. Turns out a couple of the screws securing the bottom frame to the top and sides are stripped. Also found a hole - can't tell if it is threaded - in the center of the bottom rail. The bottom rail is loose, not hugging the glass completely. Is there supposed to be a screw in the center of the bottom rail? Trying to deal with the stripped screws in the corner. Is the frame plated brass or steel? To get the bottom rail closer to the glass, what about having the glass sealed to the frame with some sort of sealer or tape and clamped until it sets and grips the glass? Thanks for any help with this one. Angelo Graham ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 10 11:04:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 112652C0D34 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:04:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail05.enterhost.com (mail05.enterhost.com [208.65.128.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B60322C0D1A for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 11:00:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 99-187-242-14.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net [99.187.242.14] by mail05.enterhost.com with SMTP; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:03:30 -0500 From: "G.D. Huggins" Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 12:03:25 -0500 Message-Id: <10E38B5C-EF80-4584-8541-6A916083323E@genfiniti.com> To: triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [TR] TR4A - Overdrive Update X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net All, Quick update to yesterday's OD post.. I raised the front of the car, switched-on the OD solenoid, and filled the gearbox to capacity. I then took it on a test drive and the OD kicks-in just fine now. So, once again this rookie learns something new from you old pros. Thanks to all who responded. Cheers, Guy D. Huggins 1965 Triumph TR4A CTC 63569LO Online project diary at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 10 14:09:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979FA2D01A7 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:09:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from relay8.bu.edu (relay8.bu.edu [128.197.27.85]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 904192D0168 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:08:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Envelope-From: lherault@bu.edu Received: from BUSDM801RL ([155.41.214.121]) by relay8.bu.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q8AKAJr9015814 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:10:19 -0400 From: "Ron L'Herault" To: Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:10:19 -0400 Message-ID: <008d01cd8f90$4d5ac7b0$e8105710$@bu.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2PkEgRtflXyXB5T1KEu8Rlro+lvg== Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] banging from rear of TR3 B X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I had a '58 3 that banged going over a sharp bump. At the time the car's rear bumperetts were missing. Once I found a couple and bolted them on (one bolt was quite long - and I had to improvise spacers wit copper pipe) the banging disappeared. I guess that long bolt also held the rear corner of the body onto the frame. Ron L ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 11 05:46:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91BB12D01EF for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:46:20 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm26.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm26.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 88E5C2D019B for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 05:46:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.62] by nm26.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Sep 2012 11:49:01 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.31] by tm2.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Sep 2012 11:49:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1031.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 11 Sep 2012 11:49:01 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 133659.69067.bm@omp1031.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 77573 invoked by uid 60001); 11 Sep 2012 11:49:00 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1347364140; bh=Ppe8mFW/z7fNPegaJknk0B3z2pL7LML5IP10ah1lfjY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=roabAwXE3yKY/IPlkQKYhfyKvnh+MhIpZD3W9r1dxx4DeC9gJ5VnXIfpIdZJ/OcqWS+rebRZe04ySgqnGpIUo83+/SaFTrCE0/rF1qZATCVZIMje0XjYmvOOtP8cCouGT008lFevJF7lZG96KGF1VnR4fbGz+SFsXO1z7dz5D3s= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zQ0TGQIb8R6LU9OqIDwLg7vcGlQxZs3eptNeNY7Xva1hry/vpB5rW9l2eQde8p6ni9bt/YCZc2yoFh5evv6KCStMM6etYQ2IRZJ+QKx1qic4Spm/PyDmE8kP2nL1Ufh6yc+TI7aEl1q2V66cc6nZsCa3dcCkfMMHGOs6Od3RPLg=; X-YMail-OSG: YBTMz2gVM1n8nN.fE9FbYzIQ2bb_vrPzyd52HnhX26DvZwn dag4s8eEZW6zUyzV15hp4duslezLCawBleJnBQmTqUUilAkVH3MGcGlIwPvA NddAlyLOkzPkQPpfIk7.mEf0TGJmqyUzy.zC0IBsEm6Ms7Etv7GhnSTE_0iy isEmoZi62yVc_2h.Tzrs5fKfTyrvg1Jub4HnNBGM0qTDR5KV7ZSDGIcUSgxd .G2KiwqSGwKEMRGCYpZUUb2ltrZgW9dS_opX2xh9SwN0VU_V79WTa6aDtTUN qKjy1iDvQAoc9bzgJz2lkhov1M0O._vNDxtY5JFhEsnYDP6Bcne5xAQjkKjo N5d4pJi8EVYgj_4qywccMNv7qZfwKFR8ViWCqa6CFGx8bm6bCdtFk2wSwweH 23Tww1BNLq9dv4L1eXn0YuFa5P.qUCeA_QQkxUGP2zZhNT5DHDnD5ce2MbmK y_5C.7IDaGyuqJggYXhgzUg6jtwHWWXiUmzI- Received: from [74.110.31.126] by web39403.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 04:49:00 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <1347282408.40291.YahooMailNeo@web39401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <1347363912.56630.YahooMailNeo@web39401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1347364140.64821.YahooMailNeo@web39403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 04:49:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Cosmo Kramer To: Digest TR List In-Reply-To: <1347363912.56630.YahooMailNeo@web39401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] somewhat off topic - bicycles and garages and triumphs X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cosmo Kramer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi List! Sorry to bome the list, but I can't send this to Dave. So being that it was on the TR List I'm going to hope that he reads this. -Cosmo Kramer >________________________________ > From: Cosmo Kramer >To: "ve@ranteer.com" >Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:45 AM >Subject: Re: somewhat off topic - bicycles and garages and triumphs > >Hi Dave! >This bounched back for some reason. So I'm sending it again. >-Cosmo Kramer > > >>________________________________ >>From: Cosmo Kramer >>To: "ve@ranteer.com" >>Sent: Monday, September 10, 2012 9:06 AM >>Subject: somewhat off topic - bicycles and garages and triumphs >>---------- >> >>Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 19:46:31 -0500 >>From: "Dave" >>To: "Randall" , >>Subject: [TR] somewhat off topic - bicycles and garages and triumphs >> >> >>I know that some of you have unlimited garage space (I'm jealous) and some >>do not. >> >>I fall into the latter category. >> >>I'm thinking about mounting the bicycles on either the wall or the ceiling >> >>any recommendations or warnings? >>-------------------------- >>Hi Dave! >>Now you're talking my field of business. >> >>SUGGESTION: >>1- Hang bikes on one large hook (looks like a long letter "J" with a screw threads on one end & the rest is coated to protect the bike). this way takes up less horizontal space. >>2- Install the hooks (if more than one bike to be hung) the distance apart that = the with of the widest Handle Bar. >>3 ALWAYS hang bike by the rear wheel (because of the drop outs will hold the bike if the rear nuts or Quick Release happen to loosen up some how (I can't think how, but then there is 'Murphy's law'. >>4. Get a Christmas tree disposable bag (Used to engulf the living tree when wanting to through it out to the garbage so needles won't fall on the house floor when dragging it out). Now clean the bike up ( Lube, tuned-up, As if you're ready to ride it.). Now, roll the bike into the bag (back end in first with the width of the bag in the vertical position), all the way to the end. >>Pick up the bike & hang it by the rear wheel (If you're careful, you won't have the hook poke through the bag). Now roll up the open end of the bag a little, then fold the ends inside a little & finish rolling up the bag until it reaches the front wheel. Now take a spring clothes pin & install on the roll to stop it from unrolling. >> >>Now if a thief looks in through the window, all they'll see is a large bag hanging & Not a bike (I believe in the saying, " Out of sight, out of mind." >>Also, Your bike is ready to ride in "NEW" condition. Another suggestion: let some air out of the tubes to avoid 'High pressure leaks, but enough to keep the tyres 'seated' on the rims, with the tyre looking as if it was up to FULL pressure. The bike should be able to sit on the floor with little deform in tyres without any wt. on the bike (Lower about 25-30 PSI). >>-Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 11 19:10:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2947D2D0210 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:10:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B0DC2C0D32; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 19:02:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DennisPC (ool-182c78ad.dyn.optonline.net [24.44.120.173]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MA7007RTPPHTRF0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:05:45 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 21:05:41 -0400 From: Dennis Culligan To: triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net Message-id: <002001cd9082$bae01bd0$30a05370$@net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac2QgrqfRCrKfk59S0aAmbRjR6orEg== X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR6 on Jerry Seinfeld's new show X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net FYI - This week's episode of Jerry Seinfeld's web-based show "Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee" features my Tahiti Blue 1976 TR6. The show can be seen any time after 9 PM on Thursday, September 13th at www.comediansincarsgettingcoffee.com or at www.crackle.com or a couple of other sites. NFI (well, they did pay me to use my car.). Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 13 06:21:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D322C0D28 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 06:21:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 550102C037D; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 06:13:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.74]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8DCGLnf024099; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:16:21 -0400 Received: from core-doa001a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-doa001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.211.1]) by mtaomg-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 062C0E00008E; Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:16:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip19474@aol.com Message-ID: <56181.6af3a32c.3d832894@aol.com> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 08:16:20 -0400 (EDT) To: dctr6@optonline.net, triumphs@autox.team.net, 6pack@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 5002 X-Originating-IP: [98.114.133.30] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347538581; bh=j6PIIU5aNcVHFp3oCh2DcuwDmMp2ggCWQk5FWOASGYk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=q7CWIAbGtn69qlsSuZr8f5XV7Wne1jH16RECSLUK9PPVuakPA/ZawIX4s/AoQZIM3 dClIgX4VByqqXOB+mVbJ5Bx6DELZktjqOVY9GD03TYRWwApgDQG0X7v8BUBNAZD93Z UlaizXqi7wBncwkGzi7t/yf9k1f8gCM/R01rrU6Q= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:474245760:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294a5051ce951bfe X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 on Jerry Seinfeld's new show X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net congrats Dennis...... In a message dated 9/11/2012 9:13:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dctr6@optonline.net writes: FYI - This week's episode of Jerry Seinfeld's web-based show "Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee" features my Tahiti Blue 1976 TR6. The show can be seen any time after 9 PM on Thursday, September 13th at www.comediansincarsgettingcoffee.com or at www.crackle.com or a couple of other sites. NFI (well, they did pay me to use my car.). Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/chip19474@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 12:51:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 133592D02B1 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 12:51:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from blu0-omc1-s36.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc1-s36.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.116.47]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D730B2C0D45 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 12:51:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BLU168-W3 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s36.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 15 Sep 2012 11:54:29 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [216.137.132.139] From: marty sukey To: Triumph List Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 14:54:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Sep 2012 18:54:29.0854 (UTC) FILETIME=[895A6FE0:01CD9373] Subject: [TR] Conv. Top Window Zipper X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The zipper in the window has decided to become unzipped for about 1/2 inch about halfway across the window in the TR8. I tried gently trying to pull the zipper thingy back through that area to see if I could get it to join back up as I unzipped the window (hopefully that makes sense). No luck. Any suggestions? Thanks, ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 13:16:55 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52ACA2D02CC for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:16:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa06-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa06-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.192.104]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E3B62C0B90 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:13:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.194.13.60]) by p3plsmtpa06-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id zXGD1j0031HkWkN01XGDvU; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 12:16:14 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:16:22 -0400 Message-ID: <001901cd9376$988290d0$c987b270$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2Tdo0lNnw+z8C9SKyCn2TIvIdJIg== Content-Language: en-us X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR3 exhaust bracket X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List: Does anyone know where I can source the 2 rubber mounts for the exhaust bracket that straddles the center of the frame? This bracket effectively braces the exhaust and has rubber mounts on either end. I can't find any. Thanks! Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 13:36:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 883702D02C6 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:36:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bay0-omc4-s6.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc4-s6.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0D9C2D0299 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:36:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BAY150-W35 ([65.54.190.199]) by bay0-omc4-s6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sat, 15 Sep 2012 12:39:02 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [98.199.207.209] From: Randy and Valerie DeRuiter To: , Triumph List Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 14:39:01 -0500 In-Reply-To: <001901cd9376$988290d0$c987b270$@uprichard.net> References: <001901cd9376$988290d0$c987b270$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Sep 2012 19:39:02.0058 (UTC) FILETIME=[C21C68A0:01CD9379] X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 exhaust bracket X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Andrew- Part was originally 42243, superceded as GEX7329 - same as grommet for a TR4A radiator stay. Roadster factory shows it in their database, Moss has it as part number 680-640. Regards Randy > From: auprichard@uprichard.net > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:16:22 -0400 > Subject: [TR] TR3 exhaust bracket > > List: > > > > Does anyone know where I can source the 2 rubber mounts for the exhaust > bracket that straddles the center of the frame? This bracket effectively > braces the exhaust and has rubber mounts on either end. I can't find any. > Thanks! > > Andrew Uprichard > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/deruiterville@hotmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 13:42:32 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B7E2D02CC for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:42:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm11.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm11.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 65B132D021A for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 13:42:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [72.30.22.79] by nm11.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2012 19:45:24 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.119] by tm13.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2012 19:45:24 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1024.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2012 19:45:24 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 375502.24421.bm@omp1024.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 82587 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2012 19:45:24 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=g2FBt5XNyc8CYfI6SRB2LXRojAlrLBPk1bKeMJInmaLZ8HxBQNzroHfGIot/ilnqjbHLMZmiUL8KOWZT2of5uYaPv4tSPzmOrjycXZavtTFb5cs9xBlTSJcUYkaiYLDGQYc0Qcq+ybe52QVivhnnQQFtxM7qzZkpOuMy0irlw+w= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1347738324; bh=sx8sYwO3Zvp+/OXYcZYX1oFrQ+VkjUKQszkaZxhMHVs=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=bimasQsCqzPlyXKMJ+sQpePNQe5GGWZhfFPUSlIoR9zA878vLVV4TzzvR3hHRMTTwp9UAKWCqLJadRSacU5PxC/Mc40JsCMs6Az2vc+SJJaFw7+rN8IekVXhq/iDfkeAo76J6g3pkng4vLdPCR5gFcPrTgxrjGyRPkyFs4hSMyk= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: YmGAYR4VM1l88YNakNHaoFeTv1RYu.NpcHJCxseRPd8jpVG AKDsGFQUyaTFRH8smvWWhG_JbrzrD_.ZqTcndKpk5r6fyVl72QKziiFskK2X B2jHAKWSGfibap1frxjB6IyG7eWv9n9uztOHjf1dWqgpt8PV5hxoDVoAvKlR 5AMiBiSFeudEFYvRxK4VlHGo2ht4xEs3UmGlBeq7rzBasWQ6UfuiNvO3ExRm AWLhZ4K3.tK47952.j7Ma6UQh2ITVrsnVSFcHBGpw3kow7OOVgKaVrJItWtM s0UAwLGvP3L91QCSNhSI_5n_dVwzO69hy_FYth_D9qriLdoLf6O6RMldGFba oSWx7N9HbSqQ5h8nXSOkboQ3Dn9L06V5n.C8YTfGDgcJvG2hX9GpFmY5Y2r9 91251BmacuV2.UNuR1bDX8FNOItDjFDAlsxkEYj0JQgV4A94HSToVxjQpRAi qZHaO.PvjenEnMF_EWfDkYbT9PwTmKij19K31bEM15xGJ_Qi55lf7zjoUIC6 OYvAqYI1c57nC3RQt028YkrmplvHJIwQt9pYhdNmVtrbsikGVx8JVRqeSzA- - X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp112.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2012 12:45:24 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Andrew Uprichard'" , References: <001901cd9376$988290d0$c987b270$@uprichard.net> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 14:45:19 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <001901cd9376$988290d0$c987b270$@uprichard.net> Thread-Index: Ac2Tdo0lNnw+z8C9SKyCn2TIvIdJIgAA3Viw Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 exhaust bracket X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Looks like p/n 42243, $2.92 at TRF. They also sell the complete bracket if yours is suspect. NFI, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Uprichard Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 2:16 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR3 exhaust bracket List: Does anyone know where I can source the 2 rubber mounts for the exhaust bracket that straddles the center of the frame? This bracket effectively braces the exhaust and has rubber mounts on either end. I can't find any. Thanks! Andrew Uprichard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 15:51:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DAA52C0D45 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:51:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0262D0212 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:47:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.52]) by qmta14.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zZqf1j00117dt5G5EZqlDg; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:50:45 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta13.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zZrK1j0052ymm843ZZrKYo; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:51:19 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:50:40 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-ID: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <001901cd9376$988290d0$c987b270$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:75.67.82.24] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Subject: [TR] TR3 Door Seals X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dear me. I've received my rubber door seals and clips, including a length of seal covered with red material to match my interior. I do not, however, have a clue how to install. Anyone have an idea where an instructional video or solid prose instructions might be had? Thank you all. Terry Smith, 1959 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 15:53:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7522E2C0D39 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:53:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.40]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 658E62C0D39 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:52:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.98]) by qmta04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zZi81j00127AodY54Zvz6X; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:55:59 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zZwJ1j00D2ymm843fZwJgZ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:56:18 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:55:56 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-ID: <1683941530.103652.1347746156218.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:75.67.82.24] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Subject: [TR] TR3A Steering Box Rebuild X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net By the way, I do hate to put this in writing, yes, indeed, but...ah, well, you see...uhm...Randall was right. The steering on my '59 TR3A had been sloppy, and for years I'd compensated by compromising between stiffness and play. Randall mentioned that when he did a rebuild of his box, he was amazed at the difference and said "I should have done it sooner." Steering is now much easier and yet no slop in the wheel at all. Moss carries the worm gear for the end of the steering shaft. It's splined and peened over, but an easy installation by my machine shop, or for those of you better than I at that kind of thing. Moss also carries the peg, which was another machine shop installation. Would have waited til winter, but I wound up with the apron off for something else, so took an extra week to get this monkey off my back. Terry Smith, '59 TR3a New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 15:56:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9AAB2D0353 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:56:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.59.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900FA2C0D41 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:56:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.74]) by qmta15.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zZaJ1j0021c6gX85FZzmEn; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:59:46 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta23.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zZyv1j00H2xV5no3jZyvPb; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:58:55 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:59:24 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-ID: <1902654822.103703.1347746364331.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:75.67.82.24] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Subject: [TR] TR3 Rattle X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net One last thing. I'd lived with this annoyance for the past 10 years, since I'd restored the car...a rattle from the front that I just couldn't locate. Recently I started the engine with the hood up and noticed the vibration on the bonnet duzies. I'd thought that cranking down on them to close the bonnet would have dampered any rattle, but apparently not the case. I put a rubber o-ring under the washer beneath the duzie and the rattle has disappeared. The car is actually now purring quietly down the road. I didn't think it was possible. Probably shouldn't be and I'm tempting the Triumph gods.... Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 15:59:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A792D02EC for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:59:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A562C0D41 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 15:59:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.12]) by qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id za0J1j0020Fqzac59a2cQa; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:02:36 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id za2T1j00j2xV5no3Ua2TDz; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:02:27 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:02:32 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-ID: <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:75.67.82.24] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Subject: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net So, I've been noticing that lately the TR3A is overheating. No, not massively, but over a distance of 20 miles, it'll bump over 195 or 200. It does have a new water pump and a good fan belt. Timing is dead on. Performance couldn't be better. What sorts of symptons can a defective thermostat give? Thank you all yet again. Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 16:24:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A000F2D02EC for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:24:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm25-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm25-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.213]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B05092D029C for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:24:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.176] by nm25.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2012 22:27:23 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.116] by tm11.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2012 22:27:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1021.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2012 22:27:23 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 670185.89054.bm@omp1021.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 94012 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2012 22:27:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=s1XJFClIR8QUkz+buHw+HRvVkzsDP3hPlK0ahX6wVk3VCsSJQS3H/M+pSWKYgd/5b9O7frMWy9yHWvJ9Jppiq1uTsrKpHT+nm8ZQ8ck0p+LCPu2F3eMLfy9I28M0yl4yDLjSqpeVw+lOuepo4PoZa2hqaCjmF8eJUewCsimIds4= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1347748043; bh=pQf+kXcsa+bPbFDUQAxV0hMH6xZKJuW4WdDSrQNgb2w=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=uCV41Odo7sG/AB8gqLPsxwJtRxhQ3Brs3PzZpiZMWFjW5JPQ4tPoLRnb/7vkrWwZ4dm2mazAK/2INwwWMkd0M28yuM4q10oXcy9OR2oIYSh2o5l4qNijWlIQ5a1O6jv9SVZBtuoAIUUYVCfZxkaFWuXyCttG22pxjp/VP/j5eb8= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: E6DvLUAVM1nwhMqZM_oiC19rv2MygZGcIR9_OKbxTxMdd45 y8qqv0txZ7WQzLCVlGIvgWLsNHAG7GQ9qk1K73B6tz.CEJKrZbudiSkspcbm teeLtbA8.aVmJq3yGpoibGpXX99XHldbOX1vVNJVYTYae1OCQRjN7Zpu2axO dqI3n3QWjysXNFc60tAT5.fbfcokoopHxJ5zbcUQmq137HC6.ooStOXdgmD5 vuRYH86TXMco9QBdpCj2AWIwqj.TDXY3S3E2SsycZs3PEhrzL4sEoya.v0vg lAACtciDf7TBn95SG4sQTyNhZgYTAyxP2ZyLBykfet7Hrgv8BXLBT3i334xl W6LSiCNxiu0PtAYPfJ7WbhXXKd5e7m8nFmEgesMqKXjDtyGNyGTw_LO_FHi1 lNN_PDKKmTQj78XQx7AecbExFVGPpFNBZMyOPq7hAU52rv.N8h_LBKtAJ_GQ ROCsVQ9fqh3Gcire8vsd6vVGebyan2TN.o0oOpiuU36T6QAJXRg-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2012 15:27:23 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: , References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:27:24 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Thread-Index: Ac2Tjd2IAma/jDoGShqf3e5uKKezvgAAsH7g Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Symptom of a defective thermostat is.... Drum roll... Overheating. Good thing is that they are cheap and easy to replace. IF everything else appears to be right, it is good place to start. Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of terryrs@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 5:03 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] One last question So, I've been noticing that lately the TR3A is overheating. No, not massively, but over a distance of 20 miles, it'll bump over 195 or 200. It does have a new water pump and a good fan belt. Timing is dead on. Performance couldn't be better. What sorts of symptons can a defective thermostat give? Thank you all yet again. Terry Smith, '59 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 16:38:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E9E52D037F for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:38:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.172]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 00CC12D02B1 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:33:56 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.148] by nm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2012 22:36:54 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.121] by tm5.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2012 22:36:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1026.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Sep 2012 22:36:53 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 895594.79188.bm@omp1026.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 33185 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2012 22:36:53 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=VjjmUkqIKaUOGOV5pkAJ9hC69H2KbI55JucBEIHa5V+uoIZFQKGuKRE9dOIMZUde39yYLhStMEEAdU3Q69BFOE8sYf8DKKDXjbgZrajsysRWTvguiy3LblDX07/UURdNYCaaahBFIo/3N0IZhQql4O64nGiXiSCnIr5O1i5+s1U= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1347748613; bh=ygDRyu9g+dzXl01LJRIxzrQh06+2t5MgHvPF2SDVMaQ=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=aJDsUcdPBkiU/qxbwwv737C4Wybgq2WpauAyEiLbjJK1kQvcCMlNRZQEKkvV5GU1rDpCaYKKUi/COUV6fGUVeHMckkAau0MOMlei2NjrrZbpli4w3r+T2pC1M6LuA6QkC8/wzbDRDEWODJqxdYVcCisIs57l4V0FQ2QIBAtbC3s= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: mpZoUboVM1lg7oQDfW.Dl_WNkrXa107v4pRwc.Y2VqIgErg TfaACzjqA_XuulE7tbHY99.Csdw2UtwOcDbw98oIYvGRaa12dkZy1Ug6EXDs JYgd06sAbIqzph34gEO6nnCdNW0vC2A4Iw.DOzNU_quLTd3Qyk3NWv4yW7nE tIc5XBwbXHl1WQHhNx.9wsoOBDG3HraznTV42Bt3puo_4e2SCw1LKPU.tlX6 RFrH1r6K3gOiALiuxyOTjDYviIJD6kOZT08SOdVJwjwlx9tnKcUHo3lA05Y4 WUZamtpjRPM1r6F1Gn3lxgaRqyiM.JMLPPad3bwQw.dpntS014PHTMP2x3Xf V1_9hy9dpFehTu.7l0w.ACoQB7Awsrgy7r6zb.cxtzldm6dpami_J8mBTY2C eXnURjL.4WWMG9qKYpMM6h4Kpq6zvcsxtR4Dk9Lcyrtc3ZWvuy96eDfdGjlg ckl5TuC1lCgmLxNQY2FjSijLKEtVjCWoFL1dXFTi8VenidwjJFYJg4bkWcNe 8I7Sr7WRW X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Sep 2012 22:36:53 +0000 UTC From: "Wbeech" To: , References: <001901cd9376$988290d0$c987b270$@uprichard.net> <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:36:53 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Thread-Index: Ac2TjL9uqZtVIc1jQq2PExYueV3JSgABHxPw Subject: Re: [TR] TR3 Door Seals X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The fuzzy seal goes up the side of the "A" pillar and "B" pillar. On the "B" you have that stuff that looks like someone rolled up a brown paper bag real tight and stuck it into that slotted gap, tack your fuzzy strip to that and then the interior panel will cover it. On the "A" pillar I just glued it on that edge then when it got covered with the panel I made sure I caught it with three screws, top, bottom & center. The clips go into those holes along the bottom of the door and along the bottom of the front scuttle, where it meets the door, then it wraps up under the front dash rail capping, about three inches. You clip the clip onto the rubber then push/pull it through the hole. I did mine while the door panel was off and used a pair of 90 degree needle-nosed pliers to grab it and pull it on through the hole and lock into place. Picture available upon request. Hope this helps, Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of terryrs@comcast.net Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 4:51 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR3 Door Seals Dear me. I've received my rubber door seals and clips, including a length of seal covered with red material to match my interior. I do not, however, have a clue how to install. Anyone have an idea where an instructional video or solid prose instructions might be had? Thank you all. Terry Smith, 1959 TR3A New Hampshire ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 16:39:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FA9E2D03D9 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:39:20 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E562D02B1 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:35:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:17 a=63NOriMuWKsA:10 a=GAXz5j0BEEwA:10 a=uYRmwVSfly8A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=f8qcBMrUAAAA:8 a=f8fIVck4z7sA:10 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=tCoxvbWIAAAA:8 a=LKqM5Jb7nLTSpBPNhM8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=9X_zMSMRwuAA:10 a=kb1MuJKOTQc5li8ZD2V1lQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.242.9.253 Received: from [67.242.9.253] ([67.242.9.253:39925] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 60/4A-28917-D5305505; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:38:21 +0000 Message-ID: <50550363.4070800@adelphia.net> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:38:27 -0400 From: Bob Labuz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120827 Thunderbird/15.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: terryrs@comcast.net References: <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Terry, The best thing I ever did for my 3s was to install air deflectors on the sides of the apron to channel all air entering from behind the grill directly to the radiator. I think TRF sells a cardboard replica but I just made my own out of some thick plastic I had around. I just cut accordingly and screwed them to the apron sides with machine screws. I never have overheating unless stuck in bumper to bumper traffic when the outside temp. is > than 85 or so. When driving down the road temp never gets much above 180 even on hot days. Now if you already have installed deflectors and you suspect your thermostat, it is easy to check by removing it and checking it out on top of the stove in a pan of water. Bring up the water to the temperature of the thermostat and you should see the thermostat start to open as the temperature approaches the rating of the thermostat. If it doesn't completely open at the rated temperature, time for a new thermostat. Bob On 09/15/2012 06:02 PM, terryrs@comcast.net wrote: > So, I've been noticing that lately the TR3A is overheating. No, not massively, but over a distance of 20 miles, it'll bump over 195 or 200. It does have a new water pump and a good fan belt. Timing is dead on. Performance couldn't be better. > > What sorts of symptons can a defective thermostat give? > > Thank you all yet again. > > Terry Smith, '59 TR3A > New Hampshire > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr@adelphia.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 16:40:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87922D03AA for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:40:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 969002D02BD for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 16:40:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.19]) by qmta03.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zZVg1j0060QuhwU53ajQ8u; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:43:24 +0000 Received: from sz0058.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta02.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zaix1j00W2xV5no3NaixQh; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:42:57 +0000 Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:43:24 +0000 (UTC) From: fogbro1@comcast.net To: Wbeech , terryrs@comcast.net, triumphs@autox.team.net Message-ID: <1107665330.2007198.1347749004423.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:76.125.165.36] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - IE7 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, For aB good place to start troubleshooting overheating issues: Go to Moss Motors web site. Click on TR2-4A Click on cooling system Click on radiators "For TR2-4A cooling system information click 'here'." Ed Woods ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 18:25:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F126F2D02C7 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:25:36 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F562D021A for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:22:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so8242054pbb.14 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:25:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LMbszGKLDHuenJyWu6jAG2QOc9bKjcpkoLJ5QAMWDXI=; b=lGofExf2ZhOoFRxfQDz2QeFwOCz0Gl2JetxGcAG3jS0bRP0U83U2+RqRRp9Pwuezoq 1iHN8FLVOpbdQgyB6YCDVYv8s2GZVHsw62yHuxA4Geqvp+uyFLDiDQsYYrlqsJNu5ZYg +COptfo/PGWBHLj8ogniPx5j+dsYNp8PTgzqZlYmiQZTcunOGyYAtkDfUsQ06Mhte409 M9QCrWLpJDGTqOP4MuZ4DheEAziuquC5IWbI7eaWreVU7eU/luuyoaxhvpz1h9WtvvXz qCPXidQYJ1MC4RjmdWQmfKiL6bDocI2rWM/PNGjOM7Rx6toL/L11nPyC39insHNb3iZj KxCw== Received: by 10.66.78.194 with SMTP id d2mr11279036pax.42.1347755111052; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (75-171-58-163.phnx.qwest.net. [75.171.58.163]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id kt2sm3868151pbc.73.2012.09.15.17.25.09 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:25:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 17:25:07 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/15/12 3:27 PM, Wbeech wrote: > Symptom of a defective thermostat is.... Drum roll... Overheating. Good > thing is that they are cheap and easy to replace. IF everything else > appears to be right, it is good place to start. > Bill > And here I didn't even know that anyone made correct thermostats for the TR engine. I've been hording a collection of new Smiths bellows thermostats for nothing I guess. TeriAnn Counting down to Triumphest 2012. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 19:03:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C6382D0212 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 19:03:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222CB2D01C4 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 19:03:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wgbed3 with SMTP id ed3so914351wgb.20 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:06:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=SI4oXSQVMERBx9OMyhvcnpJuCLb8PXKu1itUCr22NnI=; b=hM5F54oPTqrdaPj1j15dJiSEzaEvXdusQE1gfxvs8pGiH7wfzW2v8PtQw2kNw8cDjE Ho8fiYDmtO8sd7tdgJKY5q1eMbl/FmotJR0kHivz6p50sCElZdZ/XBRatn6c6T+LVVGL +KSpqC4wandTFWykJoYUwtgLWvq3H8HeqETIM+A349evxgA2DzwDz91MzWFuDt6ha0py aD3MABW9niZdj5K+oW7zqPTLuy+3srQjMpwTNTXY8gId1jtpAcDfGWNm7SM36botCYJ4 vbOQEiBAtzIEV1sNb96N1qw3nMBkY9s9SJEvmMTE6qHtfzHWooFd8xFQAT630Lh1+QI7 h3+w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.96.3 with SMTP id do3mr7241984wib.5.1347757587858; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.197.149 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.197.149 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:06:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:06:27 -0400 Message-ID: From: Chris Simo To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I just use chevy small block thermostats nowadays. On Sep 15, 2012 8:29 PM, "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" wrote: > On 9/15/12 3:27 PM, Wbeech wrote: > >> Symptom of a defective thermostat is.... Drum roll... Overheating. Good >> thing is that they are cheap and easy to replace. IF everything else >> appears to be right, it is good place to start. >> Bill >> >> And here I didn't even know that anyone made correct thermostats for the > TR engine. I've been hording a collection of new Smiths bellows > thermostats for nothing I guess. > > TeriAnn > > Counting down to Triumphest 2012. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/triumphs/ccsimonsen@**gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 19:30:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16A882D01C2 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 19:30:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f173.google.com (mail-wi0-f173.google.com [209.85.212.173]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716A02D017C for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 19:30:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wibhm6 with SMTP id hm6so953300wib.2 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:33:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=DZc5vPVsiAlVsmtGqo/sOX8PuCgSMDcHWm2P4T3dhyE=; b=F/ivVUT661A3Lk1wSUC0jaad+E3hfmckG1GQMTLNqMzrQ43EE8vQQEj9zaO+gL8Fq/ f0LOpj8hyNFedmQZ+DR3T0aM6AKQMNoJU5L6AXHhO2CqtQnus7URr5FuoXiUt4it6W3U ZzBEt6Jx9WOQGMNHPsL1ivAU/Bdsaj/2UZYk17tvFXZfJaxWlGcowk74+De5+dR6YeVv 6zINpaYSYakjHPZ06uIYnCm4dH1K/g+guiZ2oQ3FzG7PWKWqqoLEdtrt2pkLPuDhWwpt JE3e6LDOgAAlFNPPohyrOcXPMAFc6tITas6PJGp3b8sv602JI1wF0/F9p0qLdm1Fcl9C Oxjw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.194.149 with SMTP id m21mr3969262wen.89.1347759196273; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.197.149 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:33:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.227.197.149 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:33:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 21:33:16 -0400 Message-ID: From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Tr6 pertronix misswire X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Finally digging into the TR6 that I recently purchased. Horrible experience with Just Tires took 3 hours to get tires and i had an appointment! On the way home it had issues. It died about 2 miles from the tire place. It would barely run. And basically runs for 30 seconds and then dies. Probably a fuel problem if I've learned anything on this list. . It's a 1973 and has a ballast resistor and pertronix was connected to the coil verses 12 volts. That might explain why it died when i turned the headlights on. I went back to points and still died after 15 sec. Turns out the fuel regulator is intermittent. Much better now. Also replaced 4 ft of melted red wire in the trunk. Found green-red wire melted, too. Things are finally working! ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 23:35:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5D42D01C2 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:35:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DE592C0D27 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:31:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=f8fIVck4z7sA:10 a=yFDeG1F4cQ-vm-JXnrEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55005] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 69/79-17657-AE465505; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 05:34:35 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Chris Simo'" References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:35:04 -0700 Message-ID: <007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2Tp5J7Wv+ovxSSTESe0lCpDliWWgAJVatA Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I just use chevy small block thermostats nowadays. Ditto. Even the factory gave up on those aneroid monstrosities. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 15 23:45:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 542932D01BC for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:45:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23B0D2D019F for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2012 23:44:55 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=f8fIVck4z7sA:10 a=wWORSEimtu2r55CQcscA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55004] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id B9/7D-28917-90865505; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 05:47:53 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2012 22:48:23 -0700 Message-ID: <007901cd93ce$e3148010$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Thread-Index: Ac2Tjdlcnp14WlZJSeqyoO9HalsaaQAP3XTQ Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > What sorts of symptons can a defective thermostat give? Fairly easy test, without disassembling anything: Raise the hood, start the engine from cold. Let it idle until the temp gauge gets near where the Tstat should open. Feel the radiator upper tank and core, it should still be noticeably colder than the thermostat housing. (Be careful when you feel the Tstat housing, it's hot while the radiator isn't.) Continue to let it idle until the upper tank suddenly gets quite hot, same as the Tstat housing. If the temp gauge reading is reasonably close to the Tstat rating, then it is probably working fine. Although not a 100% test, I've never seen a bad thermostat that would pass it. If the temperature creeps up over 20 miles, I tend to doubt that it is the thermostat. If the tstat is stuck closed, it will overheat much quicker than that. FWIW, I've had that exact symptom twice now. Both times, after checking everything else, it turned out to be a bad radiator. Now with the new radiator core and the electric fan, I never see 200F even in 100+ ambient stop and go traffic. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 07:51:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A399A2D01B9 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 07:51:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6AB2C0435 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 07:41:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so8769234pbb.14 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 06:44:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=5Rc3l9H2eMHrFq7wsU6v3575SxEyhz0TG/tk0ScCyY8=; b=zFRk/zG0K/RFJ/0QAzq+4N/xD07wa8vN1lvGJCmHjcn9RL/Kk1Q37f/RL7Mp5WCXvE +4gVyAPI47k0kVC89rC+kpI4cfJ4YzcPOJoeC/3e3ah56vArf9tGSRvADa+J1utDzI7n 3e99W1Brk5j/QrlruoEf6D6MYRDZZLb18bKiW6NweJI+TBz0RAsZhdTkWZn3BLKU7gW2 hiMS0VtaSGqCcu8XfDf13dZOpZv5sw2Gag18bYH9uMGAj01Gq3n9Tn50k5ZZsFsrhdyr 5CZWA7Ra1um+e770Cmw89XwzSRRi57rbuWZLtojivI2KHFm3em1mcsA/0ZE7BoPsKquh 2Yzg== Received: by 10.68.202.168 with SMTP id kj8mr2145838pbc.8.1347803049479; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 06:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (75-171-58-163.phnx.qwest.net. [75.171.58.163]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ta8sm5043705pbc.71.2012.09.16.06.44.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Sep 2012 06:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 06:44:06 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> <007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/15/12 10:35 PM, Randall wrote: >> I just use chevy small block thermostats nowadays. > Ditto. Even the factory gave up on those aneroid monstrosities. > > -- Randall > Are you trying to tell me that the factory stopped putting sleeved thermostats in the TR2-4A engine before the TR4A was discontinued??? The TR engine has 2 water paths. One to provide coolant to the head while the thermostat is closed and the engine is below operating temperature. This path bypasses the radiator. The other path is for an engine at operating temperature which channels virtually all the coolant through the radiator. That sleeve on the thermostat acts as a valve switching between the 2 coolant pathways. A thermostat without the sleeve leaves both pathways open when the engine is at operating temperature allowing coolant to take the path of least resistance and bypass the radiator. What good is the radiator if a significant part of the coolant gets circulated through the engine without visiting the radiator? And if you block off the bypass, coolant does not get circulated through the head during warm up causing localized boiling and thermal stress that often results in a cracked head. It is my current understanding that Smiths sold new sleeved thermostats as replacements for at least 10-15 years after the TR3-4A engine was discontinued. The Land Rover four cylinder engine used a sleeve thermostat as well until some time in the mid 1970s. At that time the LR engineers redesigned the thermostat housing to reduce the opening for the bypass restricting the radiator bypass flow. This forced almost all the coolant through the radiator when the thermostat is open but allows a small flow through the head while the thermostat is closed. Are the sleeved thermostats " aneroid monstrosities" because you do not have one? over the past 25+ years I've found that they work just fine and provide a long service life. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 09:00:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB282D027B for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:00:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 064662D017C for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:00:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so769115ied.14 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:03:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=k4OCfUX/p7r6WlSiwoK1b2zxA00NOjxXv7/OaUExutE=; b=pgWU9qrte1HiRjeESEyOjVtWEPR3jwSCmY8fbgjz4cABxMcNEGMzi4T14tw6MuYfV/ gkT8oJx9wf+YY6kxi+5/8a4MiQh4qEWIUTygKzKevM6MOoCp6cIRWOV4BjA5ir3XLdmR WEIep1IWG6twV5BF3EpfrOWTJZATMkttow8PvnPWO6g/durYo0KZgXHSAWdKqCKK67F5 72PTksGGrAb86MDC23SIwVCn4YwBZkzPKOYtkiDWrJvXhKyFoxHXuDQVbJ0d2ih76yYo 2wF011qTvnBtN5dAjphQIk5THwG2IehUAmkNqTHOfYVJh+ScDlpt0Rk1uNHJVurlsyKr K5Nw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.40.225 with SMTP id a1mr4356068igl.51.1347807789416; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:03:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> <007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:03:09 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 6:44 AM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > Are you trying to tell me that the factory stopped putting sleeved >> thermostats in the TR2-4A engine before the TR4A was discontinued??? > > That is my understanding. I have seen TR4A thermostat housings with a restriction in place to limit the bypass flow to accomodate a non-sleeved thermostat. I believe what I saw was original to the car in question (even have photos here somewhere) but perhaps a TR4A owner knows for sure. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 09:05:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41002D01EC for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:05:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com (mail-iy0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BF022D01AE for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:04:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iagk10 with SMTP id k10so6122618iag.14 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:07:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=JSokxZfBvR47zpxRu01VawgTHlu/WhnnATN3BFlov2w=; b=MMLG4rfsyvkQb7OM2D3eBsG7SNKaaiaQXPJVnnVcJ5QbTefURipk9qPmT3D5bJ8yB6 BUA1v4Fgb2h8pYnrE/ox8WpRRnYrjAipRBdy2BHVtB3tXJzk1iU8pHejlAIepzUOUHuH 7f00nSKeBIspTUHf3muGln1/73W7qTIXHrexOw6vsPEH4gyLNG8tkmbCbapXdxdBXkyy 4ikAaJJvczyHRcqGk6xQ4bjNTbKNRhFirz5nIevwkVEkTcD9lz9hA4BVy3DYLMq+D8zl 5KQVBjR/RclKwone6UlcSK15J7ne6g9UwSMAlFqJW6jzvk7lyWr0fLyn+1CjtH9rrZsb NZKw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.106.147 with SMTP id du19mr6834652icc.56.1347808040232; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:07:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> <007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:07:19 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Photos of a TR4A thermostat housing with what I think is a smaller, restricting outlet... TR4A Thermostat and housing On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 8:03 AM, Geo Hahn wrote: > On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 6:44 AM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > >> Are you trying to tell me that the factory stopped putting sleeved >>> thermostats in the TR2-4A engine before the TR4A was discontinued??? >> >> > > That is my understanding. I have seen TR4A thermostat housings with a > restriction in place to limit the bypass flow to accomodate a non-sleeved > thermostat. I believe what I saw was original to the car in question (even > have photos here somewhere) but perhaps a TR4A owner knows for sure. > > Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 09:20:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1B12D02D1 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:20:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com (mail-wg0-f51.google.com [74.125.82.51]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA192D01B3 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 09:17:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by wgbed3 with SMTP id ed3so1180923wgb.20 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:20:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=L3s3vF7Eo3qcVRJFL8oI06Uy1xRZcDpYmX0pVnYSCkA=; b=mxyaGBJPDf4+9ab7Wv0WAQtBNuXWtogz3m+HQdev9X5pWfXEyczHYaTV8Vt66A3Bs7 Z7hqaY563izawd2eyCF3vKFzBJq7N2fS+tqSBt4ZD1zVaUAACaPPxjzKNPwgq4PgPwEi TtZ+EmpZzRdqr1c+B1tnCylNr7nwXq8gRALoDIIPA7fT4OTsgEehGhav0mm+v6TVMV4W Ao0RCSwkRn8IsSTcf3hLyp/3UWUX82ohFvEI4SSeQOkuIcEqyEPpeGZMVUBX7qKS2YJv X2m0nwFJLPDKO1jx4eZ3bFSNtsRpmwqb8dUbPYZ/Gq1iBL0eCDhsXqDQnpJt8dGOF7Qo lNsw== Received: by 10.216.228.130 with SMTP id f2mr4534572weq.7.1347808853045; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:20:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.197.149 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 08:20:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> <007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> From: Chris Simo Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:20:32 -0400 Message-ID: To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I put a restrictor in the bypass hose - on My TR4 it's an old 1/4 drive drive socket that fit iinsde the hose just perfectly. On the TR2 it's a Delrin spacer drilled with 1/4 inch hole. I put the last of my smiths thermostats in the TR2 during the rebirth last winter - it was still new in the box - but it over heated and I found it was full of water when I removed it. I had a chevy thermostat and stuck it in and we are doing well. Well....-I ran it without the front apron on in 100 degree weather - it got a bit north of 200 degrees but did not boil over. Apron back in place - much better. As an aside - Without the apron on I can see it was very easy for air to flow around the radiator vs through it. - My new to me TR6 was the same way - The radiator duct was missing and it was getting hot - it works much better with a duct in place. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 10:56:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE8602D0219 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:56:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.32]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D41982D01B9 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:56:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.43]) by qmta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zr2C1j0030vp7WLA3sz85C; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:59:08 +0000 Received: from [10.229.76.16] ([174.241.1.181]) by omta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zsyu1j00A3uKGXi8Rsyx7o; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:59:06 +0000 To: "=?utf-8?B?R2VvIEhhaG4=?=" ,"=?utf-8?B?VGVyaUFubiBKLiBXYWtlbWFu?=" From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:59:06 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?One_last_question?= X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Message-Id: <20120916165617.CE8602D0219@autox.team.net> Sounds like the competition flow restrictor sold through dealers. Used instead of a thermostat. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Geo Hahn" To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" Cc: Subject: [TR] One last question Date: Sun, Sep 16, 2012 10:03 On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 6:44 AM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > Are you trying to tell me that the factory stopped putting sleeved >> thermostats in the TR2-4A engine before the TR4A was discontinued??? > > That is my understanding. I have seen TR4A thermostat housings with a restriction in place to limit the bypass flow to accomodate a non-sleeved thermostat. I believe what I saw was original to the car in question (even have photos here somewhere) but perhaps a TR4A owner knows for sure. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spook01@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 11:08:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C05D2D01B3 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:08:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail.akanomi.com (akanomi.com [96.47.2.10]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E332C0D2E for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:05:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Spike (c-75-70-29-51.hsd1.co.comcast.net [75.70.29.51]) by mail.akanomi.com with SMTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:08:50 -0600 Message-ID: <9CD698052F2E4920A152BF249F97289C@Spike> From: "Mike Welch" To: References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <007901cd93ce$e3148010$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <007901cd93ce$e3148010$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:08:48 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I use an infrared thermometer, if the temp gauge says 200 and the IR thermometer says 180, I tend to believe the IR. Last time I did this, was fighting red-lining temp gauge for a month, everything tested OK, replaced radiator, hoses, gauge, voltage regulator, flushed everything, no joy. It was only after using the IR thermometer that I figured out it was the temp sending unit. Mike Welch '62 MkI, 2 '69 MkIII, '79 1500 Colorado Springs, CO, USA -----Original Message----- From: Randall Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:48 PM To: terryrs@comcast.net ; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question > What sorts of symptons can a defective thermostat give? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 11:08:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 120542D03BD for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:08:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com (mail-iy0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C80AC2C0D2E for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:06:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iagk10 with SMTP id k10so6182108iag.14 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:09:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=a+inaVyVVdbD7AtWpCME15+eOXsOg4BNaWHbppVmKJY=; b=ayE+fxjLteoZES1RNlLKGnasTOU85bTWTSbc2QPKCr6+NJNLNFJP3VttFknZb84E2V tJnzXW6YIsXnq2OKKQ7lmW0gmFPxTYtaGUG3INmPgAioO6XkKFfr0pl5zxGYyBb66k8t d2QKnVqAaz9+JoWaRDP+uLrYQPLeUfIeuznarVEnfKBKnodN12rrDpr52vovVJHRhj3E E0JyyK/GqCh5aGONVrjSJNDx7AHZ+ko/ByIprV5SrOHIeVSs7r4op5tKDDrEWyHhEFkt GaE41DwxymBJSkVHE09zquA0NcWAqgkfW2IAEqPsMbe8+t16UUCpBrhK6q6uQz5nNFNM vKMA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.237.65 with SMTP id va1mr4601198igc.11.1347815346234; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:09:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:09:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> <007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:09:06 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Don Hiscock , Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Don Hiscock wrote: > Could you repost the link? No worky.... > Sorry, maybe only I can see that Google image (because it was an attachment sent to me). Here's a different place: TR4A Tstat & Housing Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 11:15:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43E352D0353 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:15:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F05A2D01A7 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:15:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8GHI8Mu031266; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:18:08 -0400 Received: from core-dde002c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dde002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.53.5]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D703EE00008A; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:18:07 -0400 (EDT) From: McGaheyRx@aol.com Message-ID: <3cac.46d9f120.3d8763cf@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:18:07 -0400 (EDT) To: spitfire@freebacon.net, triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.7 sub 19 X-Originating-IP: [166.248.64.144] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347815888; bh=gTpaQ/Mlt5jzLgnUBempGXf1EVpkq1DKarJImC3yZII=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pX23p7fe6TaMwaSWL84EUWgHDVaH6s/w7Zasr7jmcPAzuL69ynC56GW+vQiTqPVmR X6KEsQ7E9oXyh+3KjCTNf+P03y3HeN2ddsWuLMkdwhQFvVK1yZIHvUOPpSWBefTjTB X9MZVKJVAfXaNjj76WVrUmpf0CsHzRNet3xX8x4Q= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:407256896:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d505609cf32aa X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If you have a known good IR thermometer, that will work, but I have had 2 IR thermometers disagree by more than that. I don't trust the cheap ones anymore. Cheers, Jack Mc In a message dated 9/16/2012 1:11:21 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, spitfire@freebacon.net writes: I use an infrared thermometer, if the temp gauge says 200 and the IR thermometer says 180, I tend to believe the IR. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 11:28:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE812D0360 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:28:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E2932D01AB for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:28:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LKXkseq9 c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=f8fIVck4z7sA:10 a=Sl-8pBi_AAAA:20 a=JhochvcBAAAA:20 a=N5gpxk9YKqd918aRbVEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=4gyyTpOK8dkA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 64/73-21812-EEC06505; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:31:27 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><50551C63.8080804@gmail.com><007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:31:58 -0700 Message-ID: <00c201cd9431$2cd61b70$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> Thread-Index: Ac2UEt/hqCVhtS3gQB+iU1Vfvu6zXwAGlHOA Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Are you trying to tell me that the factory stopped putting sleeved > thermostats in the TR2-4A engine before the TR4A was discontinued??? Yes, I am. And the later, non-sleeved thermostat was listed as a factory supercession for the earlier sleeved thermostat. They even changed the illustration for the TR4A parts manual (although IIRC the thermostat change came before that). > What good is the radiator if > a significant part of the coolant gets circulated through the engine > without visiting the radiator? How do you know it is "significant"? All it takes is "enough" through the radiator. Once the radiator tubes are the same temperature as the water, then forcing more water through does not help and may actually reduce cooling. I have experimented several times now, on 3 different TR3/As with various stages of cooling problems, and found absolutely no improvement in cooling from blocking the bypass either partially or totally. Many American cars leave the bypass open all the time, as do the TR6, early Stags and, I believe, early TR7 as well. I don't know about the TR8 offhand, but being a GM design I'll bet it leaves the bypass open as well. Also worth noting that the TR4-4A thermostat housing has a smaller opening for the bypass, providing more restriction. But my experiments were done with a TR3 housing. I do have several NOS Smiths aneroid tstats on the shelf, as well as a TR4A thermostat housing with the smaller passage. Never seen the need to install, so there they sit. My bypass is open, and I have no cooling problems even in 100F+ ambient, prolonged stop and go traffic. (Not too many weeks ago, it took me some 1.5 hours to drive 20 miles in rush hour and the friend I was meeting told me that his dash thermometer said it was 110F.) The cooling system will take the heat much better than the driver can ! Granted, my cooling system is no longer exactly stock; I installed the electric fan while fighting with overheating problems (which were later discovered to caused by a bad radiator), and I added a recovery bottle from a TR4 just because I was tired of worrying about whether I was losing coolant or not. The 10 psi cap was also added while fighting with the bad radiator. But the bypass did not seem to be the limiting factor then, and it still doesn't now. PS, I also didn't see any difference with 3 different designs of water pump. There are some comparison photos at http://goo.gl/5Ockf I'm currently running a 4-vane aftermarket pump similar to the one shown in the photos. (The one shown started to leak about a year after those photos were taken.) -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 11:31:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CAB82C1786 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:31:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE8E82C1786 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:31:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LKXkseq9 c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=f8fIVck4z7sA:10 a=r_kigOMABe-Hz3nagGIA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=H5OgS04On4iP93-r:21 a=czTEniRHHyCSQGga:21 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 3F/54-21812-8BD06505; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:34:48 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: <3cac.46d9f120.3d8763cf@aol.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:35:19 -0700 Message-ID: <00cf01cd9431$a4ebd640$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <3cac.46d9f120.3d8763cf@aol.com> Thread-Index: Ac2UL09kSvamtWCoTW6QyTmeC61utwAAe5kg Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > If you have a known good IR thermometer, that will work, but > I have had 2 > IR thermometers disagree by more than that. I don't trust the > cheap ones > anymore. All IR thermometers are inherently inaccurate, if you don't know the emissivity of the surface you point them at. (To get an accurate reading, it has to be compensated for emissivity.) And weathered aluminum has an unusually wide range of emissivity. I can see 20F or more change in reading, just by moving the spot by 1/4" or so; which I do not believe is the unit's fault. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 11:39:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC812D0382 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:39:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1D72C1786 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:36:05 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=f8fIVck4z7sA:10 a=xecN2ocyAAAA:20 a=cj2_5xNsgTTDsZiYLmwA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=-ficF8hpP4wA:10 a=ddZT45GQ4RAA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55016] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 21/D1-28917-7BE06505; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:39:04 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Don Hiscock'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><50551C63.8080804@gmail.com><007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 10:39:35 -0700 Message-ID: <00d001cd9432$3d3d36f0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2ULmW++OuW7js+T66ekWcFXNDStAAA8oZg Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Here is another comparison: http://goo.gl/EPkvm -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 11:46:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DFD42D0330 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:46:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.212]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D692D01B9 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:46:23 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ztlY1j0021zF43QAEtpM2g; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:49:21 +0000 Received: from [10.229.76.16] ([174.241.1.181]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ztp91j00B3uKGXi8ktpCpy; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 17:49:19 +0000 To: "=?utf-8?B?TWlrZSBXZWxjaA==?=" ,triumphs@autox.team.net From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:49:19 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?One_last_question?= X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Message-Id: <20120916174628.7DFD42D0330@autox.team.net> I use a low tech cookie thermometer. Reads dead on, costs four dollars. IR. You guys. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Mike Welch" To: Subject: [TR] One last question Date: Sun, Sep 16, 2012 12:08 I use an infrared thermometer, if the temp gauge says 200 and the IR thermometer says 180, I tend to believe the IR. Last time I did this, was fighting red-lining temp gauge for a month, everything tested OK, replaced radiator, hoses, gauge, voltage regulator, flushed everything, no joy. It was only after using the IR thermometer that I figured out it was the temp sending unit. Mike Welch '62 MkI, 2 '69 MkIII, '79 1500 Colorado Springs, CO, USA -----Original Message----- From: Randall Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2012 11:48 PM To: terryrs@comcast.net ; triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question > What sorts of symptons can a defective thermostat give? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spook01@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 11:58:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 389612D01B8 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:58:58 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD6232D01A1 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:58:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbon3 with SMTP id n3so4553603lbo.14 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:01:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=WSjtkRnJgXqqPrgQrynyTuIoP0CVfhuv7JY46y2yWIk=; b=D7PopycABqxdxSRfM1xWb2W1OzdfwPK3tvfekV2eq8r2ONG4s4r40IlQBua6cB4x+9 ncVHOXphFsjLe60QPVegyoSyrhQ5vUND+4aNKns0/7v0cU1gGAmtkngd3+yPtETe/xEN kpfkkd0QMOw4FejgQpf3Ie3z1iGOR4gjt2Mj4Cy+Vjgiu/xj4Pf7Y3LckjrXt2FzJVyq 816cH08YpsMcxsH+dSn3iCtV/oqAE3hDr+u2tEFpi9wzPRnUNxY7ft96DnHv9wRI+HmK Du8ztUzYuldOpLGhaMyHxWHC7Tr2T30zsijZDn/9hcCcbXkFJLzxz2e3JC83g+JPPtKc tNQA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.106.15 with SMTP id gq15mr4967653lab.42.1347818508819; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:01:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:01:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <00d001cd9432$3d3d36f0$0601a8c0@randall> References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> <007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> <00d001cd9432$3d3d36f0$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:01:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: Don Hiscock To: Randall Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My TR3B had a "different" approach to bypass hose restriction when I got it in 1981 -- a hose clamp on the outside of the bypass hose squeezing it down from outside in. Seemed to work at the time, but probably not the best approach... Here's what it looked like before I took it all apart a couple of years ago. http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-k5Gb3rT/0/XL/i-k5Gb3rT-XL.jpg Don On 9/16/12, Randall wrote: > Here is another comparison: > http://goo.gl/EPkvm > > -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 12:11:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 812992D01FA for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:11:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34B732C0D05 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:11:39 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.141]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8GIEVcj011050 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:14:31 -0400 Received: from core-moa003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 457F4E000097 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:14:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:14:31 -0400 (EDT) To: Triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [99.46.204.207] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347819271; bh=XOdVUBnGGQR711A8Q6Bb7kAK5b1N/3G6/qIe0BBPG3E=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qtcGj+jilPV7sNiD4acdP6JlorRJw8N5qm5g7r7VH5rihSPy+3nG+V7GiCnFFZUg6 G3Aw5kAN04wca6ilvM6em8X5MGUW4QvRSLY/Kibyg8HLFE0fc4NiuvD/dRinBNOTnv ME2JSVyNqa11PPU/pOLniAjOVbQKMUPJ2CIpztGc= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:460019936:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338d50561707008a X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Your car looked a little better than that yesterday. A bunch, actually. Dave In a message dated 9/16/2012 1:01:57 PM Central Daylight Time, don.hiscock@gmail.com writes: > Here's what it looked like before I took it all apart a couple of years > ago. > http://www.smugmug.com/photos/i-k5Gb3rT/0/XL/i-k5Gb3rT-XL.jpg ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 12:34:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA892D0341 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:34:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A5D02C0D18 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:34:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so8998390pbb.14 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:37:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3F0JIYX3RZMkaX/r4wHVszifsZu2/spZNsYSzr0elFo=; b=qFQpPzqcuUAEAVyM5kdaEqu/kWynYOb1ppNXOG50peiPitjkOW34rmFbWNjjt7ciPP SKOVio5LfZJOYHbXlwXNUgkcB1g9qbIO9qcB5emJ3BMfDanTeyEqe8IoJkz7iHd+5Auk 6VMhFLBDMBxbZf4/ATwaaFoPpWT4i7DoaWkKiXODbGQs/nkXFM6HlNs6l/66zYK7QJLh qs388hCZ9//4SWMfjtaTpHfRgOKe9yHb9ptn4BU2RUzvQLUssREIyMZd4z68ypUBOrsz K3Pd2muE4rykz8mzjELpXOoLAbIfjhvhitApvqpAZA/ulcjpU/dz/j0uLOsluL8YyLT0 RbRQ== Received: by 10.66.83.8 with SMTP id m8mr15563428pay.48.1347820634637; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:37:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (75-171-58-163.phnx.qwest.net. [75.171.58.163]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id sj5sm5471719pbc.30.2012.09.16.11.37.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:37:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50561C57.3010404@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 11:37:11 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><50551C63.8080804@gmail.com><007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> <00d001cd9432$3d3d36f0$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <00d001cd9432$3d3d36f0$0601a8c0@randall> Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks folks and keep the discussion going. I had hoped that my contribution would get replies going over various ways to get around the lack of a skirted thermostat. Since I have spares I never looked into alternatives. It looks like the factory solved it with the TR4A's or whenever they phased in the parts with restrictions. So what else have people done? Should we expand the discussion to include ways to get more cool coolant to the #4 cylinder? TeriAnn On 9/16/12 10:39 AM, Randall wrote: > Here is another comparison: > http://goo.gl/EPkvm ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 13:06:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022852D01CA for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:06:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4FEE2D016A for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:06:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so970780ied.14 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:09:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=nc1SyxOAy4rbc+jvEI5zuPDADgtGD5XnoEP0wh1hB9M=; b=gefyV3aVyQiVqzRR6Fb37T8edBYpY6nIABnUaEAHLeXVggV3LkJk8jR1hO7NXdOz5Y BUxravf1W4UL8ItsfPEl77vGtQtEJ0Kc4NZL6eeBK/3NVYmq1oxIoZjqr3cQsjlA2UqU mFOsfi8J18RfxohE2ILgIROmRqORt2gA8SVWr5UyzqPp0vN9t4Btf8l7f3DaGHZUS2NQ SHHKyDAy6NCoO3mfJY+VB262GWTKVBqw38H73W9ul5hrcvUItn572cQYcHWPpyW/k42v lY2qv4uK7gMOddzeLR2fe8yRT4JfFAQQHmeSjE0bYZgRv3UoSOl63dg03o6lDI591TS+ 1JmQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.57.168 with SMTP id j8mr4783315igq.16.1347822549518; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:09:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <50561C57.3010404@gmail.com> References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <50551C63.8080804@gmail.com> <007801cd93cd$06f5c040$0601a8c0@randall> <5055D7A6.1090205@gmail.com> <00d001cd9432$3d3d36f0$0601a8c0@randall> <50561C57.3010404@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 12:09:09 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 11:37 AM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > So what else have people done? Should we expand the discussion to include > ways to get more cool coolant to the #4 cylinder? I semi-blocked the bypass with a 3/4" copper cap w/ a 3/16" hole -- no idea if it helps (have no problem with cooling) but doesn't seem to hurt in about 30 years of use. Blocked Bypass As for #4 -- last time I had the head off I rigged up a length of small diameter brass tubing to my ShopVac and performed TR liposuction on the coolant jacket, especially around number 4 where it sucked out what looked for all the world like sand. Like many of you, I've done so many things thru the years to improve cooling I am unsure which help and which are just good luck charms. The net result cools well though (has to in Tucson) so I leave them all in place. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 13:42:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 604802D03B8 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:42:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EA62D01EC for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:42:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120916194531.EMWX10966.mta11.charter.net@imp10> for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:45:31 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.136.73]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id zvlX1j00K1bBNls05vlX7D; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:45:31 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=qU9vTENroOq2s6i9/sTxZt9WOCoWX/XGfIT3Tj8F8dQ= c=1 sm=1 a=FB6NmUnAAagA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:17 a=zHkqKJLSS40irOY5YK8A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:117 Message-ID: <50562C5D.5090308@charter.net> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:45:33 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <2028418737.103560.1347745840922.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><1974722767.103766.1347746552673.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <007901cd93ce$e3148010$0601a8c0@randall> <9CD698052F2E4920A152BF249F97289C@Spike> In-Reply-To: <9CD698052F2E4920A152BF249F97289C@Spike> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120916-0, 09/16/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: Re: [TR] One last question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/16/2012 1:08 PM, Mike Welch wrote: > I use an infrared thermometer, if the temp gauge says 200 and the IR > thermometer says 180, I tend to believe the IR. > Last time I did this, was fighting red-lining temp gauge for a month, > everything tested OK, replaced radiator, hoses, gauge, voltage > regulator, flushed everything, no joy. It was only after using the IR > thermometer that I figured out it was the temp sending unit. You can also stick a thermometer in the cold radiator (when the cap is not remotely mounted) and get a good idea by watching it as it warms up.... ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 14:43:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12F92D038B for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:43:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm5-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.204]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8066E2D01C1 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:39:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.65] by nm5.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Sep 2012 20:42:07 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.125] by tm5.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Sep 2012 20:42:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 16 Sep 2012 20:42:07 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 133746.26449.bm@omp1030.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 348 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Sep 2012 20:42:06 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1347828126; bh=T7EbMUiw+e2Lyc/JjGLbH+LtfBoJR8/lEf0UFIzpB9o=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=nbrlSHHG83/y3ftWif0sssoxrqhdABSn0s2el5bM1P0bjKrgawgpEXbJiR2OclCz2xt7ql0b4loylU7W+WdagCvDAUj9vWeIRHs3byF/fj/UlCJo65TuCMoLIH8BgFTe2MIKQxUxC28gTaaV0CHjDO+KRqqIqOe7KDv7sTPbiJk= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YCOiuBLx5ljADkiugwPsVMhw+c0BnrwCjhfYJiyRZDfbDhJdZ0qfLlH/L3Br8wtfUuP7YybXHq9oOXOFJW4NBwB/FypBp8TE9hRjiCMYc7si9IC8wujEJ9PRtKkCqH77NATqZZpAJ8wsIp23tU8FfxaD0tdu9tPshs1WK6UauH0=; X-YMail-OSG: WK9PYngVM1mG_rXD5GmnxhS9lVamAFbLFTLj9Z8z0SJJ8ZP rAZ.9HaQpDtGQBxZKO_oa9mjiErtSvCimtZuFzMeEX54f6eH.psaD.QYVzFG C8vzxaqAuDjTCIjRpO97NxhAaccmVOqNF568rHFrKvDPsNR3g3Olm7gINt.H 2wWlSmJw3F22ktKlioMNLZchLK2wEqJmnCyWvvsSDUCM9wgfoURbxLb4kX5F ShK2SywYOQnYm2z2guGqymnKxGbNTfYZI9_7.AtCwXC1PheaxoKfdSmrcjeG lsRJIfwsUknWIWgzgS4sY0KdF45KNEcaRWZ2mexXgHrZ4bgTFYaKSlhoK6pN 8EyWqAaN6m_w2j2didsCJB.VLumiW4V4m57pPBjwpRJX3zUWtOAa3eIkxKlb EoZzgUKlCWiT7PEM6GnG_wjeOsmMLB7bGq4B_rA4Sfo7wLOrI5du08G_.lAd raLSepYZ4MuCMK07Dh7UnCl7SqAVP5vme Received: from [107.198.185.148] by web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:42:06 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1347828126.70845.YahooMailNeo@web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 13:42:06 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: William Brewer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am helping a friend with his Morgan. I was looking in the book "Original Morgan". It states "The quadrant gauge has three instruments...". I guess it makes sense. -Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 14:44:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E4D92D03D2 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:44:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395192D0219 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 14:40:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from BobPC (ool-44c75d75.dyn.optonline.net [68.199.93.117]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MAG005DWMVZ79D0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:43:11 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:43:10 -0400 From: Bob In-reply-to: To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-index: Ac2UNeY01WFwojkSRnuZKdf4e3gjqQAFaeLA References: Subject: [TR] Sleeved thermostat X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sleeved thermostat available at Moss. (NFI) http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=47023 Bob ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 15:15:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0F92D02DD for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:15:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.96]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CE72D02DD for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:15:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.36]) by qmta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zvWF1j0060mv7h059xJMAs; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 21:18:21 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.138]) by omta11.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id zxJB1j00T2ymm843XxJBer; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 21:18:11 +0000 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 21:18:17 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: Chris Simo Message-ID: <1399273703.125658.1347830297758.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:75.67.82.24] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question NOW Restrictor flow X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Some years ago on the List, advice was to put a 3/4th inch copper plumbing pipe end cap in the hose with a 3/8ths hole in the center. Can't say whether it works or not, since I never did a control study. But I can say that it doesn't "not" work. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Simo" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 11:20:32 AM Subject: Re: [TR] One last question I put a restrictor in the bypass hose - on My TR4 it's an old 1/4 drive drive socket that fit iinsde the hose just perfectly. On the TR2 it's a Delrin spacer drilled with 1/4 inch hole. I put the last of my smiths thermostats in the TR2 during the rebirth last winter - it was still new in the box - but it over heated and I found it was full of water when I removed it. I had a chevy thermostat and stuck it in and we are doing well. Well....-I ran it without the front apron on in 100 degree weather - it got a bit north of 200 degrees but did not boil over. Apron back in place - much better. As an aside - Without the apron on I can see it was very easy for air to flow around the radiator vs through it. - My new to me TR6 was the same way - The radiator duct was missing and it was getting hot - it works much better with a duct in place. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/terryrs@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 16:31:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54DDB2D03D2 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:31:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp2.execulink.net (smtp2.execulink.net [69.63.44.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C822D0341 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:30:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-6114.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([67.158.71.227] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TDNOk-0004LV-9u for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:33:06 -0400 Message-ID: <505653AE.1010600@execulink.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 18:33:18 -0400 From: Angelo Graham User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR2/3 oil pressure question X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello List: Concerned about the oil pressure in my 'fresh' engine in the '2. Right on idle, seems to hold at around 40 - 50 lbs. on a cold engine. When hot and revved, climbs only slightly. I changed the filter head to the later Purolator full flow type. I suspect that the pressure on the filter head needs to be adjusted. Do you do the adjustments with a cold engine or after warm-up? Do you adjust for idle pressure or higher revs and higher pressure? Not sure about the accuracy of the actual gauge. No reason to suspect it and it is the original gauge. Any easy way to check the gauge? Find another one and compare?? Also, should the spring and ball bearing in the filter head under the bolt be replaced to start with a fresh spring and ball? Thanks for any insights. 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[75.171.58.163]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id vd4sm5875263pbc.41.2012.09.16.16.35.54 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:35:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50566257.6050409@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 16:35:51 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumph List , FOT X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR3 for sale - Around $2500-$3000 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I was recently approached by a guy who decided to put his 1957 TR3 up for sale. He has had it for a number of years & decided to rebuild it. According to him the engine & rest of the drive train is done and I think he said the suspension was done. Anyway he went through a divorce, kept the car but lost the garage. The car has been sitting outside under a tarp for a couple of years. Since he can't find a garage for it he has decided to sell it. The body needs cleaning up and painting and it needs an interior. He has a bunch of new parts for the car. The car is located a couple miles South of Flagstaff off # 17. For details, call Jerry at 928-607-5018 TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 21:25:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01BF92D03B4 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 21:25:41 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5316E2D0200 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 21:25:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=d81yDNd99zUA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=6k7as_74aC4A:10 a=AT-XM5_xW8GWVPbf4PYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 43/42-28917-FD896505; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 03:28:32 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'William Brewer'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <1347828126.70845.YahooMailNeo@web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 20:29:04 -0700 Message-ID: <014901cd9484$96ce5170$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1347828126.70845.YahooMailNeo@web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: Ac2UTGjIOchkExRiQC+UHTLoxNzyGgAOAnug Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > I am helping a friend with his Morgan. I was looking in the book > "Original Morgan". It states "The quadrant gauge has three > instruments..." So, what's in the 4th quadrant? Turn indicator? -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 22:25:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FC12D03B2 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 22:25:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE912D01D9 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 22:25:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 534FC2E091 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 22:31:15 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <5056A77A.10702@bradakis.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 22:30:50 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: 'Triumphs' References: <1347828126.70845.YahooMailNeo@web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <014901cd9484$96ce5170$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <014901cd9484$96ce5170$0601a8c0@randall> Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Oddly enough I was just watching an episode of the old TV show "Rockford Files" The beautiful young woman drove out of the country club parking lot in a Morgan. There wasn't a clear shot of the dash. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 16 22:45:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DDC62D03C7 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 22:45:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm17.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm17.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.44.144]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DB022D01EF for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 22:45:15 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.44.100] by nm17.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 04:47:59 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.64] by tm5.access.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 04:47:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1001.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 04:47:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 419441.90810.bm@omp1001.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 53372 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Sep 2012 04:47:58 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1347857278; bh=jqQX0v7gXVW2ikF2M4lJVkxQ8U50Ig76CS4BuHvAeb0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=l57wiJ6Xyz+Ds/iL+0k8kiWYfBxB9VvJtsww09cVX6zR/ntqjci47D/4wzztlTZCH3LDXbLhPb61iaYbkHy8c6PPO4HboiTvGmXT3LhVKqXJSabY61pOxKgPsrH5QzQrgNirieX9L2LAy/eKuk7zakX8f4vdioFUdm41osmbCUM= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=VOSEXwLi/5jjrQrbil/Ch6+sYvEOWevKHpfkXSowFX4rkmpFLbyB6tt1UVRXsja5cWnVvGRZi1h4jDwVlK0Q24ae0NDug9oNCbDqAcXXy+BzxjXMAvj/pOgTZS6Mh325LMCTXnbkwZhi5G6PEzVCNuPSZ8gdceQhZuUshZ1vvQk=; X-YMail-OSG: XzfXjswVM1lAe85m9tkFPzJ.h4NyO09FiI6mTFxU8MCh0D4 ZGphCmLl86JuQgRrv8MRUY8qFe2cWnJC9fdOrSFengEiSxjVCBnmFALniW.u vFNkRJt7xulsttlboKNDHFZexrkI_Mc1dlZTddyj8faFMaKqlD3pO6EKP7ul .iAjHcrP4nyVbkDH.FcvbUgxyWtqgiifJjKBw3fonPRO2H8RTm4_smRTSFe3 FskVC8M0ZfE51ErfK0ibQdg867oDBkYX0llOaeDA.MkUjFZYkzy83nbOF.YQ m2aecBhJGqD4aVmAabcSu7Fd4Jg0MxFWF3ZWiaKQ4crn29ewG9uijBD8Wsgr AEqihPrAkKD5Zt3zf.bPNAnEXbgAipXK4sH1D20moxAbs0P9mfmtfipeyeBi lVuxmAn_pM4RzwJPfJmsMVJzV9m9dOp_6hyjWB6bXGB3ZzC4XpAUeoUe.98I vdJhKMoI3qkVIoFDLj8XdqHxn6fxJxOp4Yl_FAM3X3xEazVbyYhmOAaPh Received: from [107.198.185.148] by web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 16 Sep 2012 21:47:58 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <1347828126.70845.YahooMailNeo@web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <014901cd9484$96ce5170$0601a8c0@randall> Message-ID: <1347857278.51498.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 21:47:58 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Randall , 'Triumphs' In-Reply-To: <014901cd9484$96ce5170$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: William Brewer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net There are only 3 gauges in the Morgan quadrant gauge. At one point they must have had four. No turn indicators for 1952. -Bill in Tehachapi ________________________________ From: Randall To: 'William Brewer' ; 'Triumphs' Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 8:29 PM Subject: RE: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge > I am helping a friend with his Morgan. I was looking in the book > "Original Morgan". It states "The quadrant gauge has three > instruments..." So, what's in the 4th quadrant? Turn indicator? -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 05:28:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5422D0424 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:28:57 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 204522D03B8 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:28:49 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.52] by nm9.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 11:31:48 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.124] by tm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 11:31:48 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1033.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 11:31:48 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 17596.3455.bm@omp1033.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 38284 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Sep 2012 11:31:47 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1347881507; bh=Jm+rtRoffpnALmG2s8Qo6jU0kruuHwoqUwFjH9KK8mw=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=K8oCGn3LhKq4ZWNQCcmAmUx2fPD3g/z8uljRvDiXsOGb1mcTQ6d8XkjgQ1aZ2o1eq8+8+OQrjsvebQn+1J8tnKHGZbevV2YmmJpgNXNyGFtOFBqvpGdJnvWk51DJNn74ZVvFsK7cWETXvS+5e+muDyaGqXrN2OM9S784JF1sRhs= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dNYS4HwT59Mjb9QjjxB/HiLiIZcJvws34UcEjhZ16n0f1CiZtbeRATy4tmcAILqVfOVr6lAtyyLhxHRJ/K3umJ4Xecf4paOdX4BOoZPnaABmPQtXoRqc7adnvFmbWiqXxly25AxJC1coKV0Wdw+5p5fhEDCjCoxmhjZGODduGyQ=; X-YMail-OSG: 6_TNuwAVM1mRQY_c25A.9B6FDl74mVe4FLI0nwifmnv_8jH al73up3VwERNyQhMVsvWf3hr6bIs4hiku3i4qaygS9b6oJmkAzfbr27r575X 9PRMIfR1Zl9TmT3CdtnSVmG2JBdqs2npMZMFfVU4tzUev77I3OSFvnEvQMTp VbdB_TE.vnSoiONRR4nseIU1A7NKDxgvo9Ufx9tr1ezindyo_4BSA5GjbwpH pw4fnyoZiMSXZLpqaTIAqaQex4xq5Qg_TP3QZsE9FJKYZPgYdpwEo7HwcLdm zLCYcIQILDevZqpbhj4jlySgVr_kGM1ryfP8iwjcZajX28Fx0X1SW56eFkfh cK1NvJO8.Kum9usdv6Cji.quKk6H9u8l3uTe3s5_kGG0YbJr3tNCD5BgOLvT C4Z_GGjsZder6ZGFofRm2DZVkpujX7iCFcuEVFE7JXpHPXqSntmvz8UeG Received: from [90.199.100.1] by web29402.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:31:47 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <1347828126.70845.YahooMailNeo@web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <014901cd9484$96ce5170$0601a8c0@randall> Message-ID: <1347881507.29880.YahooMailNeo@web29402.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:31:47 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: Randall , 'William Brewer' , 'Triumphs' In-Reply-To: <014901cd9484$96ce5170$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I hear from friends who work at Morgan which is very close to my home, that there's been a lot of work over the years by R&D on the development of a 'comfortometer.' Maybe that's what they plan for the fourth quadrant? Jonmac ________________________________ From: Randall To: 'William Brewer' ; 'Triumphs' Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012, 4:29 Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge >> I am helping a friend with his Morgan. I was looking in the book >> "Original Morgan". It states "The quadrant gauge has three >> instruments..." > >So, what's in the 4th quadrant? Turn indicator? > >-- Randall > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 05:44:22 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14EE2D048C for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:44:22 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 981182D03D3 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:44:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.8]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8HBkt7Z019465; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:46:55 -0400 Received: from core-moa003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id B164BE000092; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:46:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <1a05.2ae718b2.3d8867af@cs.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:46:55 -0400 (EDT) To: mark@bradakis.com, triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347882415; bh=r+2ihMpfAI9nWym/FKvb9rP86noxPQVcyuXM9DuxAKA=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=V48F0jE8IAF6WUvii9kkXHLA/g8JIawVU1V7+3rrKcZavIadm5JJnYsfsTJKg8PI/ jUuD8sd8I8A90BKcMmOAWYOGA8/19BFvqUg2uChssVSn5ZxzUpXWILO0wiysz0FLD8 lUuAD8ptoeb2fYyM0qYZ5xko/bVdWCMRTdiqeeHQ= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:347691456:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290850570daf7e64 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net What a coincidence. There were two Morgan's at the St. Louis All British Car Show, a Roadster and a Drophead Coupe. I didn't think to look at the dash. The TR3 was there with no interior but a hood (bonnet) that actually closes now. Dave In a message dated 9/16/2012 11:28:35 PM Central Daylight Time, mark@bradakis.com writes: > Oddly enough I was just watching an episode of the old TV show "Rockford > Files" > The beautiful young woman drove out of the country club parking lot in a > Morgan. > There wasn't a clear shot of the dash. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 05:51:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575C32D01D8 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:51:36 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ACF02C0503 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:51:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbon3 with SMTP id n3so5049785lbo.14 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 04:54:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=Gl4LHco+3gRGjlcPEIlL5sVw1t7YXGzPO8vlloTFxxE=; b=IpUUoZlj5NgTAc4SMsSTJJj5ISHNufmC3VrQanDoGka1+vY2/TrLst+mS9t8M5Vj0L GtK/szVmBIA/I2nCV09+Mhg8U1ZVC5yIoJMNn4EJvxYTqBaUrV9jbcs4u9mLrKO5UyLn IHi6U24qw/FIQREiIaYpjZbpIFV/Bq/VvCWtudVzwUWQkDUgBpvFi9Hd6wL5THOQK1HJ aPMHhBTUP5xhsUd98IstUhgEDbuWfvYXcnL3Nk7x8tGxSJ0tlTVi8AELpYrX7aL349eQ 5w5MPvCFxeWu2K+G20KZ/fEeFLaQWggHmAlI551GURNtkt6vP4jIx8FuKALa1b6bjbEL LI8A== Received: by 10.112.24.233 with SMTP id x9mr3243353lbf.76.1347882868883; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 04:54:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 04:54:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1a05.2ae718b2.3d8867af@cs.com> References: <1a05.2ae718b2.3d8867af@cs.com> From: Don Hiscock Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:54:08 -0400 Message-ID: To: Dave1massey@cs.com X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dave, ask as ye shall receive... Here's a dash shot of that 1963 Morgan +4 Drophead Coupi at the 2012 St Louis All British Car Show. What I'd call a quadrant gauge has four very respectable indicators on it. http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-4JmxZKW/0/XL/i-4JmxZKW-XL.jpg Don On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:46 AM, wrote: > What a coincidence. There were two Morgan's at the St. Louis All British > Car Show, a Roadster and a Drophead Coupe. I didn't think to look at the > dash. > > The TR3 was there with no interior but a hood (bonnet) that actually closes > now. > > Dave > > In a message dated 9/16/2012 11:28:35 PM Central Daylight Time, > mark@bradakis.com writes: > > Oddly enough I was just watching an episode of the old TV show "Rockford > > Files" > > The beautiful young woman drove out of the country club parking lot in a > > Morgan. > > There wasn't a clear shot of the dash. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 06:06:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1022D03B4 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 06:06:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028AA2D020E for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 06:04:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.142]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 49E0B380001CC for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:07:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-moa003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id D2706E00009C for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:07:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Full-name: Dave1massey Message-ID: <2001.2a4b8194.3d886c9b@cs.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:07:55 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347883676; bh=vXNQV3SXID44+iJp7NqQs875K4uEEL72i7Mcgz7tTAI=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Oiv0LBuo01mFnGAunjuwnh1nuvH8rRFh7xQ7MWpw6Vhv7pRtAzUBBi/cMM2dyEkhs /W3vy9GrH5BOZ4NisVVOVhJ21PcovENZwAuK3+B6goXb1R/eX33XGS1TnGMsLIjPnM uE8KgxbzvJX8YqAqESLJKcSuiowxYaGYR+gUb+bk= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:408311456:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d338e5057129b50df X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net That reminds me of the "Wonderful Control." The "Wonderful Control" was written into a product spec as a control to allow the user to adjust the level of "Wonderfulness" to his liking. I'm not sure how it works but I think it uses something called the "Placebo Effect." Dave In a message dated 9/17/2012 6:31:57 AM Central Daylight Time, flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk writes: > I hear from friends who work at Morgan which is very close to my home, > that > there's been a lot of work over the years by R&D on the development of a > 'comfortometer.' Maybe that's what they plan for the fourth quadrant? ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 06:08:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34ADE2D0411 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 06:08:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84622D0211 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 06:08:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8HCB4IG023043 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:11:04 -0400 Received: from core-moa003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3C0BEE00008A for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:11:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <2106.27a3abfd.3d886d57@cs.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:11:04 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347883864; bh=eqvTq3h4q+E4sxT4WdmjK3CIghR7oCn/m7bkwyvCmPw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=hkPGMLHfV4zvtQJwMDFeDPHklimnn5qcwEwZKt+d0nU7qDOv0P/ioHE+VI/GhPlOo udVk8SDlRxrDWtsdaLSO4P8c2AaDNEI8wKeEICKAPxOHmSqyErfywJauPyQ0RFmVbY W+4jHcADRC3aBfylbAiuAxX4ccE9bBGbrefZ806w= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:399206528:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29485057135806d4 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Ah, yes. The Drophead. Wonderful woodwork. Who's forehead is that in the mirror? Dave In a message dated 9/17/2012 6:54:30 AM Central Daylight Time, don.hiscock@gmail.com writes: > Dave, ask as ye shall receive... Here's a dash shot of that 1963 Morgan > +4 Drophead Coupi at the 2012 St Louis All British Car Show. What I'd call > a quadrant gauge has four very respectable indicators on it. > http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-4JmxZKW/0/XL/i-4JmxZKW-XL.jpg ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 06:47:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482C22D0489 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 06:47:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6482D0211 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 06:47:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbon3 with SMTP id n3so5098200lbo.14 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:50:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ilVvXskTauI2uSgWCq2v1xDhm4/VNcVLWGdYNkiuuxQ=; b=X66oe6PfcVDsgVxR7nCbDebzwEK8IfvdWtM0fhsbB80DyMSTlrTenOTZLLWj55PPWU gLgejIT7rvpw3p0R/rBVbZE9j2xeMj3j0+7yd+xlV3abzyk15Z5LfhLmqC6VZyosH79g I/fgbEd72qvR7peoziNuJAzyeGvFh9qmvf3InIw4P7gqdkBz7+utPRcM7IAlnnaams9L L8zNtkurt4LGz/8KGN9pYf4wE62SRTED2/mVFYaHFUXbM99TSrgsFx2crBKvpsTM1cnU pj8IBaCyHG9misG3SMrEKRI7sx9UgvnGDPy7Q07NMR4nk8YqUCbbwN1L1lpsXKesFFOz CrHA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.109.212 with SMTP id hu20mr9800735lab.3.1347886211040; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 05:50:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2106.27a3abfd.3d886d57@cs.com> References: <2106.27a3abfd.3d886d57@cs.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:50:10 -0400 Message-ID: From: Don Hiscock To: "Dave1massey@cs.com" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Dunno who got caught in the mirror on the Moggie shot -- not me for sure. It was busy enough at the St Louis show to have a tough time snapping cars without people in the frame. Don On Monday, September 17, 2012, wrote: > Ah, yes. The Drophead. Wonderful woodwork. Who's forehead is that in the > mirror? > > Dave > > In a message dated 9/17/2012 6:54:30 AM Central Daylight Time, > don.hiscock@gmail.com writes: > > Dave, ask as ye shall receive... Here's a dash shot of that 1963 Morgan > > +4 Drophead Coupi at the 2012 St Louis All British Car Show. What I'd > call > > a quadrant gauge has four very respectable indicators on it. > > http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-4JmxZKW/0/XL/i-4JmxZKW-XL.jpg > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 07:16:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206452D04BF for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:16:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com (nm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com [77.238.189.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C0162D0438 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:16:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [77.238.189.234] by nm5.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 13:19:07 -0000 Received: from [212.82.108.250] by tm15.bullet.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 13:19:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.mail.ird.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 13:19:07 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 857913.46361.bm@omp1015.mail.ird.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 47145 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Sep 2012 13:19:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1347887947; bh=UeGRse6KzeA3Mq6pQkRtVsXYNfoHXyTselXP7adX6pU=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZY9TNKxcb7KeuUCpuFzKDRDq/Fi414emhquPuO63jqSkd9R8m0gfog7xrKCAXu1dhoHXtvCuKlPoirmHe1j2thyyT8MNesj8a52GsbN58XJCmPAp9TI2kVWB7Y5EZqCPGm9FbLLS0u1ZMoORfqCQvCaorxeG/d41gXYMwshPgOs= s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TIjrYrxWBDRI13Fn6aa5PaQdAMgS4cMmR0gz6C1gK0IXlKt9UPiSkgQH4Q6lUVCd8hhYpfEDKS68IS8AdPqHHvp89NOFdBloeRqEyGLh92p/kztSf7urWFiZctwx8kQWWx5r+9tOQn4BCWDOG4e9yQzb+hKg7zwTjRGeJKB68Hw=; X-YMail-OSG: LTdj8u8VM1noPtlCl.AXvu.uonvtd1D9TEXJHuzYXTU9uIs 1SlSRdZzVWOQ6cR_YlS_ckBNFL7LJwQN2t22tMjc2y4gG20gdnXrQiKbi0nW XL9nzTXiJbaTfZKArHp8.d3FF7PEkUwqX8UCQh.wMALglRmVgyLi8gD1IE8G WcFPXj3xw0021_UKS05dMmFnt5zWlsMWdtZlIxFbX4xwxvcV9c1DZ2HFdXC9 nHuKy2.kvJe3T4DcrbAG52Z.02eT1M7PigRfR6CUszuKHP1cVW2uZMfiOXmt sulomGuDaNGQ_.Dig_3H2r5dL89OZBiV7R4r.CRGlNyv1R1TpxbaKDyA_Oc5 MVoamvPY3_QSnmAHaK.6pjf0ZJmqBDrRvjicSL5fTkegxb4cdHT0_EJdGTjB s39a7qqZkN6GfCdHWFAuKci3QX.VGER5EerSJjuQJHAvskksb_RbFxK2SsKE Frr5GdCGTLmIrwsQCMff5F0Gr9fLwDwJIM6seJgXTZUyu0t8BH8gIsqIusQR pIFealyoDcEeu4znGvk9fs6z85mdUGLMrJt.BK4QE Received: from [90.199.100.1] by web29403.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:19:07 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <2106.27a3abfd.3d886d57@cs.com> Message-ID: <1347887947.90014.YahooMailNeo@web29403.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:19:07 +0100 (BST) From: John Macartney To: Don Hiscock , "Dave1massey@cs.com" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: John Macartney List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net "Oh, are you taking a photograph?" "No, you stupid idiot. I'm standing here, camera in hand to record The Second Coming." That's what I heard at a recent UK show. Immediately wrote it in my little black book of insults for future reference. Jonmac ________________________________ From: Don Hiscock To: "Dave1massey@cs.com" Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, 17 September 2012, 13:50 Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge >Dunno who got caught in the mirror on the Moggie shot -- not me for sure. >It was busy enough at the St Louis show to have a tough time snapping cars >without people in the frame. > >Don > >On Monday, September 17, 2012, wrote: > >> Ah, yes. The Drophead. Wonderful woodwork. Who's forehead is that in the >> mirror? >> >> Dave >> >> In a message dated 9/17/2012 6:54:30 AM Central Daylight Time, >> don.hiscock@gmail.com writes: >> > Dave, ask as ye shall receive... Here's a dash shot of that 1963 Morgan >> > +4 Drophead Coupi at the 2012 St Louis All British Car Show. What I'd >> call >> > a quadrant gauge has four very respectable indicators on it. >> > http://4xdog.smugmug.com/photos/i-4JmxZKW/0/XL/i-4JmxZKW-XL.jpg >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/flywheelcoventry1@yahoo.co.uk ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 08:00:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FACB2D048B for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:00:09 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm34-vm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm34-vm4.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.76]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DE9E2D045F for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:00:02 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.142] by nm34.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 14:03:01 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.116] by tm13.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 14:03:01 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1021.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 14:03:01 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 138685.33535.bm@omp1021.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 28684 invoked from network); 17 Sep 2012 14:03:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=42L0cNT9p5becLPeFjH9TsS0uq/z/XODOpfEXlbF0svaHaQrvxZMnK3wJ3Pc6VLT6rhYf0jwhpAJJEdyz7Xo+UX463/UG+xdaOydqTH3bFyqVzqSwIVv4iHz6NvZsDS2arH7shnV+29L+y8C+1HbkHMOO+Oh3xxON4YS2XHS9Ns= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1347890580; bh=2xzVTantqd8nsiISbqymgadhKwawRwCwL2QsmO7LoyY=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:Cc:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=zfVsMZGOUYzqhVFxxxB9fvej6dzxTQLHF+vi+OAZjAtlYrbZz76bFZHRV7IwhqzFwtZmf2oQ+lolteCOrZMcJ1H2m+0gLmxGpg+K0fer1mzGB0ehJr9QfHlgJambR+GHo18yRl922tMNfJEa5f/Pi8j1SJHQPWhZu7JGWiat8ew= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: I8ZP6oAVM1nJCRr2yYFDRMH4R5ZFFDev5ScQVU87Ijlie80 .5T5cSlgbOrib7J7upBcmUz2Trdyz8dhMpaXoA9Ol3bryQzIVW0lcrm4COlL TaElzN0ViarhR3yP6xpxdNO6EHEGQ6s.ssj1DT9aAuh6s8as2veFk3aVIyzj CobGI9_2n.zHYqy9eX3I.ySWhFBEB.nYVKgK9EGgTl42NfzqG.6mPwwFwLwG BPQmfwK.M8R50MM44Ou6mf21GolYN2Nj6KdUtU1ldUUPoYX2aODuNZPcD7.8 zgwQEHWYWlyj2g.mH.ZDHpl40P._WPlm2Y_i_3MOH5xPVDWy0ihtKO1Cgm44 92l_IJHgXi1v6owl1cwXUlLhGFohAkFqljXdiSHhhP9bT_OfAfBKP9K9VEvm hco59.2e_2V2ICAFXqKnf1BZCqxjRR15o2nhSvnZSOiYDbjzktFZqG2e7LS0 nAKsc9ABSrdRFGUHr2fieGvrWfzhp3JKF.OpE8TNcK71AAS2KJDY- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Sep 2012 14:03:00 +0000 UTC From: "Wbeech" To: , "'Chris Simo'" References: <1399273703.125658.1347830297758.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:02:57 -0500 Message-ID: <07FC6A0A08674C21BE08CBCA991F751E@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1399273703.125658.1347830297758.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Thread-Index: Ac2UUN2dkZ0tR2+wRCGKAZk+/4BAngAi3WNg Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question NOW Restrictor flow X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Reading with interest all this about restricting the bypass hose. What was the purpose of this bypass and why didn't it work? Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of terryrs@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 4:18 PM To: Chris Simo Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question NOW Restrictor flow Some years ago on the List, advice was to put a 3/4th inch copper plumbing pipe end cap in the hose with a 3/8ths hole in the center. Can't say whether it works or not, since I never did a control study. But I can say that it doesn't "not" work. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Simo" To: triumphs@autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 11:20:32 AM Subject: Re: [TR] One last question I put a restrictor in the bypass hose - on My TR4 it's an old 1/4 drive drive socket that fit iinsde the hose just perfectly. On the TR2 it's a Delrin spacer drilled with 1/4 inch hole. I put the last of my smiths thermostats in the TR2 during the rebirth last winter - it was still new in the box - but it over heated and I found it was full of water when I removed it. I had a chevy thermostat and stuck it in and we are doing well. Well....-I ran it without the front apron on in 100 degree weather - it got a bit north of 200 degrees but did not boil over. Apron back in place - much better. As an aside - Without the apron on I can see it was very easy for air to flow around the radiator vs through it. - My new to me TR6 was the same way - The radiator duct was missing and it was getting hot - it works much better with a duct in place. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/terryrs@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 08:10:58 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D38B2D04AB for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:10:58 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail07.truedefense.com (mail07.truedefense.com [216.69.224.217]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954C42D0202 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:08:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail05.truedefense.com (unknown [172.16.9.36]) by mail07.truedefense.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51BAC0356; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:11:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ex1hts01.onthenetoffice.com ([172.16.8.31]) by mail05.truedefense.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q8HEB28w004705; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:11:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from JPayne@ThorCon.net) Received: from EX1MBX01.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::f9f4:b916:4b54:5534]) by ex1hts01.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::dcca:855d:bb32:dc3f%12]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:11:01 -0700 From: Jonas Payne To: "'Randall'" , "'William Brewer'" , "'Triumphs'" Thread-Topic: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge Thread-Index: AQHNlExk7hIfinUp00WbzAvm0ZgTfZeOVewAgAA99bA= Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:11:00 +0000 Message-ID: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C45C4DE57@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> References: <1347828126.70845.YahooMailNeo@web180904.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <014901cd9484$96ce5170$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <014901cd9484$96ce5170$0601a8c0@randall> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [172.16.12.69] x-pp-proceessed: f14c9345-0aa7-4395-be7e-1fa366b271af MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Oil pres, water temp, fuel level and Amperage Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Randall Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 8:29 PM To: 'William Brewer'; 'Triumphs' Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge > I am helping a friend with his Morgan. I was looking in the book > "Original Morgan". It states "The quadrant gauge has three > instruments..." So, what's in the 4th quadrant? Turn indicator? -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/jpayne@thorcon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 09:12:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF4A42D04B0 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:12:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9092D0475 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:09:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so2367075ied.14 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:12:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XM7RW/U/Tva2pL7DC/Mo5DBQVnDd6mUr6HdEYBlznYg=; b=lSNJR1tmX9pWtJweutK/i/tKtuj6YnJHVRkGffL+d2fIy977xGV5jkmd4gaT06mB25 a9ejSIvAv0D5v6SSLfmDjF2YVqS36pQsMvEv+wKu/WiDo4WLIX10iyAID0S1hZt4+8Y4 CPo+rWZpI3rFnKzNGBNq0DvN2Ij4VDKraoSuHaEcXxsPDC+2ctT7Kfiy9jWfBfzExg5f GUAo5/efRnv6hODce6IresTa17GAorX0Yt5i9dd9gfTF+a0Q4f4V4wwZvKBJCmSuNPaX kGoSVGYBP5pABwuGDCqULeTAM8WOIcwvZEaCVeDr4GxH0jOtcfoP0WFCwjVu+Ih+WBUF M4kA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.182.136 with SMTP id ee8mr7256524igc.51.1347894772233; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:12:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:12:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <07FC6A0A08674C21BE08CBCA991F751E@bboffice> References: <1399273703.125658.1347830297758.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <07FC6A0A08674C21BE08CBCA991F751E@bboffice> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 08:12:52 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Wbeech X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question NOW Restrictor flow X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 7:02 AM, Wbeech wrote: > Reading with interest all this about restricting the bypass hose. What was > the purpose of this bypass and why didn't it work? > The bypass works just fine. The idea (as I understand it) was to help the engine warm-up quickly coolant was circulated through the head via that bypass hose rather than simply sitting there waiting for the thermstat to open. Apart from the benefits to the engine of warming up sooner, it also delivered cabin heat sooner if the heater valve was open. When the original style thermostat at last opened the skirt in its design would slip in front of the opening in the tstat housing that fed the hose, effectively blocking that flow (no longer needed). When using a 'modern' thermostat (no such skirt) some choose to partially block that hose so it does not continue to allow some coolant to bypass the radiator... the feeling being that returning hot coolant directly to the head rather than sending (almost) all coolant thru the radiator would reduce cooling overall. Clearly there is not total agreement on whether this is necessary or even wise. Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 10:46:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88DAD2D04CA for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 10:46:42 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 181C12D01AB for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 10:46:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=wvpf_oM_ZtIA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=RVeJS_P7VZsA:10 a=AsLsVSYTp6hNuYuHhRYA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55004] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 50/35-28917-C9457505; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:49:33 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Wbeech'" References: <1399273703.125658.1347830297758.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <07FC6A0A08674C21BE08CBCA991F751E@bboffice> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:50:05 -0700 Message-ID: <01c101cd94f4$7daa0d40$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <07FC6A0A08674C21BE08CBCA991F751E@bboffice> Thread-Index: Ac2UUN2dkZ0tR2+wRCGKAZk+/4BAngAi3WNgAAWqbSA= Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] One last question NOW Restrictor flow X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Reading with interest all this about restricting the bypass > hose. What was > the purpose of this bypass and why didn't it work? Just to amplify a bit on what Geo already said, the bypass is quite important and I do not recommend that anyone run with it totally blocked; unless you make other provisions for allowing coolant to move through the cylinder head while the thermostat is closed. Cast iron is surprisingly brittle and does not like sudden temperature changes. With the thermostat closed and the bypass blocked, the part of the head near the combustion chamber and valves will get heated to nearly boiling before the water at the thermostat gets hot enough for the tstat to open. Then when it starts to open, it gets the extremely hot water from the head and snaps full open, allowing the essentially room temperature water in the bottom of the radiator to be forced into the block and head, suddenly cooling the head. The result can be a cracked head. While experimenting with blocking the bypass (so I could assess the difference in cooling), I also drilled a hole through the thermostat so it could not fully block the flow, thereby avoiding the above scenario. The result is slower warm up, but that is not a significant issue where I live (and I don't even have a heater). -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 12:48:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B652D0501 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:48:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A17972D04DD for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 12:43:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so2713437ied.14 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:46:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=I/Z0ck0g6aL9YY27DPgi3FjchB0Xo5ooJZjDFPkU+YQ=; b=DFcL/Y9lW4Yob2VDnRZWhzRzAJOQ5h4uPBvL2OGtAFMa2naAKtXX4Y+Wi6NYg428iO 4tqqa3mLSJy8FGJIPz4u9PK5nffwMP1zRDYYGzId3ktiYnGR0kMIdF8MW6wjU25aXDbz U7hVWcX0LTnRAZcxP6N7Or+M1fW8WcLZVQMF7GkK4C2+mDLcmNpV1423sldEZkIDjQ6n Ul6Oek1dIBJIJ1CWg03SRhRXdfn5Vr5W7BV/pudJh3ZMNzMbZZU5sbbmsDdmD7tWLSA1 ecwWSdzDVOP1gBML5sAYO7AGnnoHl1Qb1JRODkeR/JnQRezPNZUhZbreyQS3EKpo7cQq UnXA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.41.164 with SMTP id g4mr7763518igl.71.1347907577044; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.195.162 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 11:46:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:46:17 -0400 Message-ID: From: Jim Wallace To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Turn signal/emerg flashers X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I am wiring my 3a with a Dan Masters kit, and have included switches for the electric radiator fan and emergency flashers. Is it possible to use the same turn signal indicator on the dash for the emergency flasher indicator? i.e. can I connect the two "P" terminals of the flashers together? I don't know what goes on inside those things. See schematic here: www.advanceautowire.com/tr2od.pdf Thanks, Jim ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 14:40:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BBAF2D05CA for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:40:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702FB2D05C6 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 14:39:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LKXkseq9 c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=zuEL1irJDNcA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=SAhlPHHZW9EA:10 a=Gkl1tT--o50fGU63KEoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 39/32-21812-25B87505; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:42:59 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Jim Wallace'" , References: Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 13:43:31 -0700 Message-ID: <022901cd9515$19d0f970$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2VBXjwOU1Ik5OqQPqFs4F5OOnoyQADbopA Subject: Re: [TR] Turn signal/emerg flashers X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Is it possible to use the same turn signal indicator on the > dash for the > emergency flasher indicator? i.e. can I connect the two "P" > terminals of > the flashers together? An interesting question. I have not tried it, but I don't see any reason it shouldn't work well enough. At least with the flashers I have examined, "P" is open circuit unless the flasher is in the middle of a flash. In other words, inside is a double throw relay with the turn signals connected to the normally closed contact and the dash lamp connected to the normally open contact. When the relay pulls in, it breaks the circuit to the turn signals and completes the circuit to the dash lamp. The only potential oddity is that you might be able to find a condition where constant power gets fed back into the ignition circuit; by doing something like turning on the hazard flashers while the turn signals are running. And even then I think the effect would be momentary, the turn flasher will stop flashing when it's load is removed (by the hazard switch). But I would be tempted (as long as you're rewiring everything anyway), to use a pair of diodes instead. That way you could use 2-terminal flashers. The diodes would need to connect from the two outputs of the hazard switch (GR & GW) to the dash lamp; with the diode polarity to suit your battery polarity so each diode will only pass current when the GR/GW wire is hot. Not all 3-terminal flashers work the way I outlined above, but they won't work properly anyway. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 15:59:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C49112D061E for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:59:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm39-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm39-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.166]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 278422D061C for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:59:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.180] by nm39.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 22:02:17 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.199] by tm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 22:02:17 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1057.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 22:02:17 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 745826.88841.bm@omp1057.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 65552 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Sep 2012 22:02:17 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1347919337; bh=97aKNJBx5hWwAUcljpl+XTf2cThy4WnLAx0DtBeo9go=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=QgoJxUifXpV1wGSSzTvu1qdXAsWbjQ8WYVmYFfjKR5SzPLgqc4tMLp1NwKea1T7vitUmi7SKbnFYZFPa9G265E0SZ/2QXlcs6EXpGllvOwVLGQeJWrMB4eYVKWHz+I6kS0PXWuKVfavg+J7IwYgZ2j0VwskLXPay8NVRmsamEos= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wgLxsfPhtsgAU6O4L5Bk1kzpZbUj+GHvUJh4ffR9VvC1SSex0/hNaKb4KjPM9XyuYCpto3B7kxop8cvQ6JwGpnMUBDvHkSILhWDzyxlJ4yeYgy6btmloUZPxg12WaA5mdEnUDBeNojo4PbHkxTllLq5mazVQTCOTDlj1hbW0mo8=; X-YMail-OSG: ywqjMBIVM1nNVyIloBDxKPN5DLe8Qf1Iwh4iQylH2Ey2FaH dPvJbadWe Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:02:17 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <022901cd9515$19d0f970$0601a8c0@randall> Message-ID: <1347919337.28478.YahooMailNeo@web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:02:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Randall , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: <022901cd9515$19d0f970$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] lift the dot fastner tr3 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net looking at the moss catalogs it would appear that i require multiple different lift the dot fasteners for use on the tonneau of TS 41366? really? thanks Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 16:22:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AF622D0622 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:22:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B81A92D0620 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:20:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so3084293ied.14 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:23:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=AH2q2qe9dRn36H3yb9hRySZpcGl9PRBdfGuoni6tVtY=; b=KbEUyCcafDNnU22VWgGu5VFtrHQl6MpVNvhS2zA40oZADVQXM0x1sKdDO/fi2897Hu +2h1/9qK3lFwRSt+SqD1FpJ0jIR0ERDsPXAdS9CMN2txfrj7b1KnN63MZ7QlM5kY2/lG kivXA64zLk+TaBBf4DNM8gR89NH31alVXMKIbvWiezaEZbtQey3E3L+vC9yl9m9mye1K uQAs+tk2vMO5f0rfkak0KH3wnCRYGGibV9DmlALIEn+78kJJMse/IP8XyFcSzqVy36xz 1cda01wGfYn1ISeXyyimZY31H784+aQQOTrD09/AAxXLwI9Jgb5hI/cIdMJgx/0KRj7q vV9w== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.43.7.132 with SMTP id oo4mr10230922icb.6.1347920582299; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.73.139 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:23:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1347919337.28478.YahooMailNeo@web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <022901cd9515$19d0f970$0601a8c0@randall> <1347919337.28478.YahooMailNeo@web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:23:02 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Frank Fisher X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] lift the dot fastner tr3 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On mine they are all the same female fastener -- the pegs however are needed in both machine thread (with nut) and sheet metal screw. Geo On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Frank Fisher wrote: > looking at the moss catalogs it would appear that i require multiple > different lift the dot fasteners for use on the tonneau of TS 41366? > really? > thanks > Frank > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 16:30:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C202D0626 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:30:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm28-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.158]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8EC2C2D0620 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 16:29:43 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.57] by nm28.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 22:32:42 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.11] by tm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 22:32:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1011.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Sep 2012 22:32:42 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 264892.46197.bm@omp1011.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 37489 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Sep 2012 22:32:42 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1347921162; bh=37eDj13yKOcZVydFrTDNEkKmga/SdUL850BRSiAYEw0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xa31Yd/TsF1mt7Qv3226lkivo6u86pHETn7mydMIFT1mr2DEJO9OchzRtjTx+hHwPpzZWiz7b4SfufcPE8hYhb+r9w8cVIUbI/KevhliugAkpqRoIku4pZfOrGgJUXi8yQcz+Hq1yB/5IFH1SY3XR1z3700zd+jNb2fx3Aw3UyQ= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=igpLT6aB9mf5OnJ8xHKlLJLOhwmzA02xKWrQzLyBLGDvntpEdsXzdPIxkwBwTDxTCPsWqa0f3VVhF1BwI/Pi2bWGIulyueuTyyJi1OWHWlscaKt4iIi/fOeP9kR+IKDmjThrCkqFBz62/i8hTP95Eo9F9maZ6pJf2qL53f+TBeQ=; X-YMail-OSG: HqdWqxsVM1nsCkJOCFqKCCv9bPfRgnaNoh8c_rWNvUkmjzR YOZO1rx.L Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:32:41 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <022901cd9515$19d0f970$0601a8c0@randall> <1347919337.28478.YahooMailNeo@web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1347921161.33588.YahooMailNeo@web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:32:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Geo Hahn In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] lift the dot fastner tr3 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net i have all the studs in place. but i just had a doh! moment. moss shows the clips with different key numbers. if one follows and pays attention one finds they all have the same part number. thanks From: Geo Hahn To: Frank Fisher Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [TR] lift the dot fastner tr3 On mine they are all the same female fastener -- the pegs however are needed in both machine thread (with nut) and sheet metal screw. Geo On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Frank Fisher wrote: looking at the moss catalogs it would appear that i require multiple different lift the dot fasteners for use on the tonneau of TS 41366? >really? >thanks >Frank > >** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/ahwahneetr@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 17 18:55:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6C512D05FF for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:55:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAED82D04EA for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:52:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120918005517.FOFT24708.mta31.charter.net@imp11> for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:55:17 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.136.73]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id 0QvH1k00Q1bBNls05QvHTX; Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:55:17 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Mv9Cy8NsQItTEAHnXr6fCNbI23lcrkmyMeqLv9HU3yU= c=1 sm=1 a=FB6NmUnAAagA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:17 a=Hdhy2hy85alXCNEClukA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:117 Message-ID: <5057C678.2040107@charter.net> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 20:55:20 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: *Triumphs List X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120917-1, 09/17/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [TR] Transmission Fastener Esoterica X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List, I'm finally able to put my transmission back in the car (1975 TR-6) after several months of resealing and too hot to drive it anyway. There are two 1/2" bolts that fasten the transmission end housing to the mounting bracket. The RH bolt, which is 1/4" longer than the LH, also holds the "steady bracket" for the gearshift extension, and has a spacer on it. This bolt also calls for a jam nut instead of a regular bolt. When I took all this apart, I don't recall seeing a spacer, and it's not in my bolt bag. This had been out at least once or twice before, so it may have got lost. I can't find any dimensions for the spacer. So, two questions: 1. How thick should it be? It's easy for me to make one, if I know what size. 2. How important is it, anyway? There must be some clearance issues, since the jam nut is in there too, but I don't want to wait until it's back in the car to find out I need to fiddle and fettle to make it fit right. TIA, Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 18 16:03:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8656D2D069E for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:03:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm12-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm12-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.88]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 131262D0684 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:03:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm12.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2012 22:06:11 -0000 Received: from [98.138.226.167] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2012 22:06:11 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1068.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2012 22:06:11 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 107400.10304.bm@omp1068.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 41501 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Sep 2012 22:06:11 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348005971; bh=oo2LDj5VlPSm3QDvoMh0KIPBYPA7G+D+d0HQgBcIOTs=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=fhrv9E4Os8LDyodKNjx0RP9UuHTuIOrcchZBQ5cpiLjrHqAXzLzVFZ+9f0LKk188VknujI+268zZ9YdUanVDB4Ljh7Tq2ABrGGcpsywGudSGS/Eg+5mNpzwrkkd8OV6Kkm32WkUq5vYnxcwGyVi4tOeF58nOJq64h0CbC24/P1s= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gjS85TJ+9O77aM+idz5+3EIqlS1pQq5oYFBd0l9q96SAOweW6aw4BndEWFxkSQPPEEtKjmgNlrBX5Ndl/OXFEZiQtepT35GB4nVULktMrKcuyAT+kkrK3ieGmA3ICvB410F9BOdmu9BA25iPgx8RumeG0FHH9IcC01yThs6XIfM=; X-YMail-OSG: LyJZGgsVM1lzhcrad.J1F0VzyXO36qm0cGPNh32qGQVc79r 6zWLTKHf3bAN39wS6LBJxmaAsKXtPTVBUJ40OrGj9WUGGXjaNfhjJzS6dTq7 kjCa1SrnLIWXGZD7lThfwXLTjjD6sSIPbOsreA_cxP5GtBkAE9p1sCoLzxs0 7cLhZ7pOISCnmmi5t06OSq7NgREg7rK2J6q5hEdEByiR3XYH8Wk5ud4JgNkT ueivTByDJpfvb4QAQQpeq1ErUqiFzuHwPosVSPWJT1aP9Ft3SMEyM6y9abz3 QWcpv7iOo0KbjZ47YCvHmweEKWpr609xzuyuGSepEkqGGkERMnXErGv02X2g mETXrM7evJQEzDXEIxcbnNRZ.1SEK.Fp5x8lqBxE4hl8HA81_d_eGZYV.G_X xllQ87YjZYbYfLPEO9XN9cGWl5Pu8xeEAjl9GcAVQFpP3C_b8OTP0tjQi8qq Dbeyr84z49t3.0lq05qoz Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:06:10 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1348005970.19696.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:06:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] oil leak X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Nafziger List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Recently overhauled tr-3 engine I'm just breaking in has an oil leak which just keeps dripping even while sitting still and I think it's simply the oil pan drain plug. (always a drip on it with puddle on the floor). I've always had problems with this plug really sealing on the tr-6 as well as the tr-3. If I had a choice of oil leaks I'll gladly take this problem LOL but it's a mess. I'm wondering if anyone has had this problem or has a solution besides just wrapping with ton's of tape........? thanks! gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 18 16:16:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C412D0678 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:16:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm30-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm30-vm0.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A171E2D064C for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:15:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.48] by nm30.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2012 22:18:41 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.198] by tm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2012 22:18:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1056.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Sep 2012 22:18:41 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 15261.93824.bm@omp1056.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 95733 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Sep 2012 22:18:40 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348006720; bh=pmOfh0bUFXiAptyXE2wsLucWNDlr6fltdG3Tj7Ojw+k=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Zhw2GLtB15y7k+vCq4w93nQSVEeCLHPr+85urKm8691r6CzDiHoVtWnKVYTLTHA6dI2gYkonOJwE7n9/qju2W86fqw81xzOkp5ixwuGZnrO0Ps72xIA379I0ttyd/ZywrBjR183+Gv7xgGciAh+VVTX4H8zx0AtoLJxtEriscz8= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=jAonm0DMa4tFGlAVbaqJXhpYXj168nktLqs1TbXGHpVSgDCCZCuxToG2GtV0frw8XmZyxOrwt12bHHcVbNOgTX5w/TWWA13jaiiNlxW4KSipOSrP67qtqtXurRNBdChhQ8CdgoK/6uyC6MQv9ezYhKplU8gF0nO28/TurlSp+Vs=; X-YMail-OSG: u4euvZcVM1nKUHUSE1hYWVmWZjF_hzqxWcTP1AU0MNNbmtb yqYRbWcSc.YMzhlmrT.g2IeeABJtLi3DcPCAO_uSX31ImpjgvXuS4Z92jayA sQH8UUYDYBBfwVkiA9GuHRYP9OpL41.BF12WsmniWV_PcO7k4EDt_KsW6L2F Dg.1F71o_cOrnmS_npJLNpbrWoBMFezK5305VTFr8S8_xHx3JQGJBYEbiJqg UqjPx_JUQvKhMF_X1sLefPsqjrcS1Y2G0_mzVy9epugz2yKtO1yWE34Wdm6y ZTjnMLTJMSribI6pLOLsWgoXKYrjdmitWYZ_8oRAN1CWiOfCh9dCMKqhwqp8 MzgrzcxxNLQXcMKo34nBwDL2VQHvBIDedbkMCI8HJ3.9qrKM98siu5AgGnbD lTLx11b6yPdUgwDgwRLoRyC5wNq1lrfHAvFpV0W6LOqNZ9qttX3xDP1uK6dZ V6a323_eFAv7RV930NthsFzj3EgqxDGJEEmeDPc920SeuSZjuR6gW2fshe_C .v.jDpri8sPFvJMq_ Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:18:40 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <1348005970.19696.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1348006720.38750.YahooMailNeo@web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:18:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Gary Nafziger , "triumphs@autox.team.net" In-Reply-To: <1348005970.19696.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] oil leak X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hylomar. works on everything Frank From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 3:06 PM Subject: [TR] oil leak Recently overhauled tr-3 engine I'm just breaking in has an oil leak which just keeps dripping even while sitting still and I think it's simply the oil pan drain plug. (always a drip on it with puddle on the floor). I've always had problems with this plug really sealing on the tr-6 as well as the tr-3. If I had a choice of oil leaks I'll gladly take this problem LOL but it's a mess. I'm wondering if anyone has had this problem or has a solution besides just wrapping with ton's of tape........? thanks! gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 18 16:26:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F15E2D0635 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:26:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com (mail-lpp01m010-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88B2F2D0684 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:26:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lahd3 with SMTP id d3so296933lah.14 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:29:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=7GkaMhXNdq/ZCWf0TeTebdplIxfIpGrqw0s/OYHwis0=; b=RbTVuOD0Nkz2ITWwpHIkl2GQkOsqkV+WXir8rUDHwWzdT5SrY4djtKjEMFj1iqGPUY dcyoX6w5CrBgfqIJyZBE4xb/WqNQewsDutmxcuWknEES617ywtR/5+iA++lizElZEmvy 0NpokgdS07FHBHMqDIj4Qhxr4J8K8JwgNKZk2lTmF4JpaU7WHve6W3MJSH+sH826GHDe I2hWdohb3Pp30dLdhSSmq+/bbTWs8mkwPyxqUqgnAyGomfas/FhCIIKtph8GYdrz8k/X clEvstliJP5Sl5zsGcN65loVSaRgNVYwCyfrFCyySdcZ+97UojgMGaCUkmTxWqZLnpvi JdrA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.152.106.15 with SMTP id gq15mr978045lab.42.1348007367914; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:29:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1348005970.19696.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1348005970.19696.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 17:29:27 -0500 Message-ID: From: Don Hiscock To: Gary Nafziger Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] oil leak X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fumoto oil valve? Don't have one on my TR3B, but I've used these for years on other vehicles. They work great. http://www.fumotousa.com/ Don On 9/18/12, Gary Nafziger wrote: > Recently overhauled tr-3 engine I'm just breaking in has an oil leak which > just keeps dripping even while sitting still and I think it's simply the > oil > pan drain plug. (always a drip on it with puddle on the floor). I've > always > had problems with this plug really sealing on the tr-6 as well as the tr-3. > > If I had a choice of oil leaks I'll gladly take this problem LOL but it's a > mess. I'm wondering if anyone has had this problem or has a solution > besides > just wrapping with ton's of tape........? > thanks! > > gary n. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 18 16:54:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAA952D0406 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:54:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABA42D03E3 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:53:51 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=XZ5XARqLywoA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=sJ91yON_VxdcJ0rNkgAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:33888] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id A7/72-17657-33CF8505; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:56:51 +0000 Message-ID: <20120918225651.FL0XN.34427.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:56:51 -0400 From: To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , Gary Nafziger In-Reply-To: <1348005970.19696.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] oil leak X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net ---- Gary Nafziger wrote: > Recently overhauled tr-3 engine I'm just breaking in has an oil leak which > just keeps dripping even while sitting still and I think it's simply the oil > pan drain plug. (always a drip on it with puddle on the floor). I've always > had problems with this plug really sealing on the tr-6 as well as the tr-3. First thing is to be sure it is really the plug. Since it is the lowest point, almost any leak higher up will eventually drip from the plug. Last time I went chasing in that area, it was the fuel pump that was leaking oil, and the gasket formed a small pocket inside so it kept leaking for several days after the engine was shut off. If it is the plug, then I suggest: 1) Get a suitable pipe tap and chase the threads. Since they are tapered, it is OK to cut just a little bit deeper (say 1/4 turn) to clean up any damage to the thread surface. 2) Get a hardened hex socket plug rather than the standard square head plug (plus of course a suitable hex wrench to turn it). I like to use magnetic drain plugs, McMaster-Carr has them in both varieties. 3) Use teflon or PTFE "pipe dope" rather than tape. Should be readily available at your local hardware or big box store. All this is assuming you have the later oil pan with the NPT drain plug. TR2/3 up to TS18901E used a straight-thread plug and a fiber washer. If you have one of those, then use a fine flat file to carefully dress the sealing surface, plus a new washer (WF524 $.50 @ TRF) and Hylomar. Inspect the plug as well, sometimes the sealing surface gets distorted. TRF has the plug listed as V7535. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 18 19:42:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 555ED2D0686 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:42:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7202D016A for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:42:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.98]) by qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0ny51k00227AodY58pl4hf; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 01:45:04 +0000 Received: from sz0151.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta19.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 0plP1k00s2xV5no3fplPrK; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 01:45:23 +0000 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 01:45:04 +0000 (UTC) From: suhringtr36@comcast.net To: Triumph Mail List Message-ID: <1444236313.201092.1348019104922.JavaMail.root@sz0151a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:98.235.159.143] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - IE8 (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Subject: [TR] TR3A Spare Tire X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone have recommendations for a spare tire that will fit into the spare tire trunk of a TR3A? I know we can find old 155s and replace with a new tube, but I recall years back a discussion on possible modern donut spares that would fit a TR3A as well as the trunk. Thanks. Scott Suhring 70 TR5 59 TR3A ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 18 19:47:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47BB72D069E for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:47:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40B692D05CE for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:47:00 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.72]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8J1nn4r000599; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:49:49 -0400 Received: from core-dsc002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dsc002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.253.69]) by mtaomg-mb01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 72CBFE00008C; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:49:48 -0400 (EDT) From: KingsCreekTrees@aol.com Message-ID: <4d2b.36f71eb7.3d8a7ebc@aol.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:49:48 -0400 (EDT) To: suhringtr36@comcast.net, triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.6 sub 5004 X-Originating-IP: [204.237.31.56] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1348019388; bh=9+zKmrvDDfPVgwA18i0iYlu5zyaLDdoaPVyYc0voFgo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=D0+kyBnmpXUI2Tfp8FyBbNhg4ftCbOp9zv2E5vTuLhrXTtNjTZCbNwF1bPkOLmxcz ecgjTqNCTK8IDKKJqyC3wwDrQ5OHclQdsk+cXA6Obe3iG9ADt9jH6MlFOCS4irpsdb 9D+Js7mKT0mRecH4eUZtMgZPmPQ0hE6tDyxp53II= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:500292416:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2948505924bc3298 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Spare Tire X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I use a space-saver tyre on my wire spare wheel. It's an early TR3A, which I think had a smaller spare wheel compartment (not sure on that one, though). I had a 165 on the wheel before. The previous owner managed to get it in there, but once I'd finally managed to remove it for a different job, I couldn't get it back in again, so switched to the space saver, as recommended on this list, I think. Hope that helps. Tim (TS22930LO) In a message dated 18/09/2012 9:45:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, suhringtr36@comcast.net writes: Does anyone have recommendations for a spare tire that will fit into the spare tire trunk of a TR3A? I know we can find old 155s and replace with a new tube, but I recall years back a discussion on possible modern donut spares that would fit a TR3A as well as the trunk. Thanks. Scott Suhring 70 TR5 59 TR3A ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/kingscreektrees@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 18 20:15:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47FC92D06AE for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:15:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED93A2D0686 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:14:44 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=glemon@neb.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=C49rOHz+ c=1 sm=0 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=BLh56-mdvSQA:10 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=C_IRinGWAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=fvFTqgNeiE37szJb6R0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=si9q_4b84H0A:10 a=N7/zD/GSoOFc6njiPQeb7A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.128.132.160] ([10.128.132.160:62459] helo=hrndva-web09-z02) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 04/4F-01227-74B29505; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 02:17:43 +0000 Message-ID: <20120919021743.JBGHC.183926.root@hrndva-web09-z02> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 2:17:43 +0000 From: To: KingsCreekTrees@aol.com, triumphs@autox.team.net, suhringtr36@comcast.net In-Reply-To: <4d2b.36f71eb7.3d8a7ebc@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Spare Tire X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I believe an older Saab space saver has the right bolt pattern but not sure what years maybe late 80s early nineties. Greg Lemon ---- KingsCreekTrees@aol.com wrote: > I use a space-saver tyre on my wire spare wheel. It's an early TR3A, which > I think had a smaller spare wheel compartment (not sure on that one, > though). I had a 165 on the wheel before. The previous owner managed to get it in > there, but once I'd finally managed to remove it for a different job, I > couldn't get it back in again, so switched to the space saver, as recommended > on this list, I think. > > Hope that helps. > > Tim (TS22930LO) > > > > In a message dated 18/09/2012 9:45:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > suhringtr36@comcast.net writes: > > Does anyone have recommendations for a spare tire that will fit into the > spare tire trunk of a TR3A? I know we can find old 155s and replace with a > new tube, but I recall years back a discussion on possible modern donut > spares that would fit a TR3A as well as the trunk. Thanks. > > Scott Suhring > 70 TR5 > 59 TR3A > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/kingscreektrees@aol.com > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 18 20:44:30 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FE422D0682 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:44:30 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B66072D05CE for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:44:13 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=naTFgwgOnrTb5obLrH8B2zc4jvY4O/dHuIeE/yJKH01Vd4qzqSXNBdXw894/kspb; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [75.161.46.73] (helo=Shemp) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TEAJa-0003Dj-TG; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:47:03 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Cliff Hansen" To: "Jeff" , "*Triumphs List" References: <5057C678.2040107@charter.net> In-Reply-To: <5057C678.2040107@charter.net> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:47:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-ELNK-Trace: 528c356ac306a91c1da3787d14811d2a4d2b10475b5711209c99bfdfbaa31b94c0e9cb5c0d52cc14a870c4011c145420350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 75.161.46.73 Subject: Re: [TR] Transmission Fastener Esoterica X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Jeff, That's the same part as is used on the TR4 and TR4A. The spacer fits between the bottom of the steady bracket (nice term for it) and the top of the gearbox extension. The only purpose I can see is to take up the space between the steady bracket and the gearbox. I have that greasy bit somewhere in the garage, which I can find and measure, but I think you would be just fine using washer(s) of appropriate thickness. Have no idea about the jam nut. There's plenty of space there on the TR4, relatively speaking. Cliff -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 6:55 PM To: *Triumphs List Subject: [TR] Transmission Fastener Esoterica List, I'm finally able to put my transmission back in the car (1975 TR-6) after several months of resealing and too hot to drive it anyway. There are two 1/2" bolts that fasten the transmission end housing to the mounting bracket. The RH bolt, which is 1/4" longer than the LH, also holds the "steady bracket" for the gearshift extension, and has a spacer on it. This bolt also calls for a jam nut instead of a regular bolt. When I took all this apart, I don't recall seeing a spacer, and it's not in my bolt bag. This had been out at least once or twice before, so it may have got lost. I can't find any dimensions for the spacer. So, two questions: 1. How thick should it be? It's easy for me to make one, if I know what size. 2. How important is it, anyway? There must be some clearance issues, since the jam nut is in there too, but I don't want to wait until it's back in the car to find out I need to fiddle and fettle to make it fit right. TIA, Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cliff_hansen@earthlink.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 18 21:08:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24EC32D05BF for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:08:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9914D2C0D42 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:06:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LKXkseq9 c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=BLh56-mdvSQA:10 a=LnArR30AAAAA:20 a=t1UDp831xmVpJ9DsyHAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=dOT82HSyJLQA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 4A/06-21812-A6739505; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 03:09:30 +0000 From: "Randall" To: , "'Triumph Mail List'" References: <1444236313.201092.1348019104922.JavaMail.root@sz0151a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:10:05 -0700 Message-ID: <046a01cd9614$44cf48c0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1444236313.201092.1348019104922.JavaMail.root@sz0151a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Thread-Index: Ac2WCHwg4nWRvVXhTdq5LAkZpCgAOgACQOlg Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Spare Tire X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Does anyone have recommendations for a spare tire that will > fit into the spare tire trunk of a TR3A? I found a "compact spare" at the local junkyard that fit on a stock TR3 wheel and fits easily inside my early spare tire compartment. (The compartment did get larger at TS6000.) Not sure what car it was from, possibly an 80's Nissan Maxima. The wheel had the right bolt pattern, but would not clear the brake calipers on my TR so I moved the tire to a TR3 wheel. Tire size is marked as "T135/70D15". Looks like the 2012 Honda Civic Hybrid uses the same tire. Also 95-98 Acura TL and 87 Mazda RX7. Only problem, there is enough room left over in the compartment for the spare to slide around. I keep a spare blanket stuffed in beside it to prevent the sliding; which also makes a handy knee protector while changing tires or performing other roadside service. It's my understanding that the temporary spares do not suffer from the "old age" problem of ordinary car tires. Of course they are also not recommended for high speed or prolonged use. That said, I drove about 2 hours at 70+ mph on mine, with no ill effects. There's a photo at http://goo.gl/DPpp6 Kind of grungy since the tire had just been forcibly removed from my wrecked TR3A. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 18 22:32:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C5E02D0630 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:32:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FA422D05F7 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 22:32:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so1634641pbb.14 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:35:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=nIJvBavm4PZ7IzWZWbJ97MaVpOe3GqIq4mhnW3T3J4E=; b=y2DiFfwxhU4KVUmZkcAcjc7+RZWdpmX4uExnvIer3ClbmrNNyzMf4vx1lIcW3qFa92 Eq64ysoMUei+jhhizNkg4R9khNCjJU23RtJIccyIeJg906yQjZOdl+61H+8rj8zg7BH4 J0gCmp0eVTJrJpPCJGN8wRcUN+9n+1K1+sIx3h5ZgamZ5McYQR0oHYksCxv6BMSggXjL njIOxgUQ46CTJGBiAtW9X8E9I4WI+X/HEZq9CXLJSyt/VnX1GNiBCXUjfAHcjStX1N7w aKKZnweugKM51vqu4dCg47Zrx7CbXyTxZliAW3uYSCHfuZLJqfYFlU4/zHwpABL2z9gf V51A== Received: by 10.66.78.97 with SMTP id a1mr3885881pax.34.1348029310106; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:35:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-155-192.phnx.qwest.net. [174.19.155.192]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ps2sm1148916pbb.0.2012.09.18.21.35.08 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50594B7A.1090503@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:35:06 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1444236313.201092.1348019104922.JavaMail.root@sz0151a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1444236313.201092.1348019104922.JavaMail.root@sz0151a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: [TR] TR3A Spare Tire X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/18/12 6:45 PM, suhringtr36@comcast.net wrote: > Does anyone have recommendations for a spare tire that will fit into the spare tire trunk of a TR3A? I know we can find old 155s and replace with a new tube, but I recall years back a discussion on possible modern donut spares that would fit a TR3A as well as the trunk. Thanks. I have a 165/15 on a 48 spoke wheel as a spare. Tight but it fits in my post TS60000 3A. I can not get a 60 spoke wheel to fit. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 11:45:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9658D2D04DB for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:45:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm10-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm10-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A4742D0475 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:43:03 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.180] by nm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Sep 2012 17:46:03 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.248] by tm15.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Sep 2012 17:46:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1040.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Sep 2012 17:46:03 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-5 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 801754.90379.bm@omp1040.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 32652 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Sep 2012 17:46:03 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348076763; bh=gIyFKxgyBuhHmPFEvM6G1VHFMAqSj+GjX0EaG+GrHpY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=yiH0m4a5p3fWDkCXhIDTzvXcIiH3hG4PgynZztZhkfBFYbL0xciogQYpZN1zp0KnZLXKApFGBAloKUELUox8hNGzBAxEe5snihjIBxE3/uTmQYi4DGP9LGNiK+yE5PA7G2DcLrsuBp4iB0ITNYA1yNN/jzxFeXhhCIlo8B87z4c= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=bG2EGMIambXcasVJ2uvEtLnBwX8xZ4z2qs9yqqlaumAK1XjFlUzaPfxwp87+VOOskWs6BpSdLrqMdCpnmb02IrefSM/gjntcVtMdtpo55cdwWxIOLAOrtHoKnFdvexOtMmkbnalP0LPSwnID5j/ql2/I6yeOdCs7dK/f3n873jc=; X-YMail-OSG: j1zWxpUVM1kVOdDolFIfDcwUDhNFeg2SMIXEUSy3dbFszWb wT3Tjp4Q6jZXqSov5eU0aaZ08hDCR7Bw9wy_uBO4aXVu.1xIp6JGwumGdCJy E.igWUCGOMM2.t.Dw9FfAhVxn4tA8ImJJwUSu.lMpbsSMPlyHcmFGAXPxyYt 2bgkWLOgTOleRqphfnmilHzH.N6UK3flkJhOYrBWnBOJPYAmGUGERymDvQjk fjvc2mzL009ICG_LZeHa4CaE3pHI6NBv_waI0rDgYdYQr.jkbSNOhEpDHrFs kE3avu70Assf4mwsixayzo.q3mdB4nCNrARxB1..R43SnRFiEK0btYXcIOgv O56qrvvFTZAs3RTSJIuHdoL.buDcxIgeDypNPIMP1nswGdgioxHwfrQTQXlP 81qSi8rIReJH9ONo8Z5c4sdWL4a3LY5K7dHY5Rl7N0vQCNQ4jNxTbwjWWI8E UxPF669JydIVps1I- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 10:46:03 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 References: <022901cd9515$19d0f970$0601a8c0@randall> <1347919337.28478.YahooMailNeo@web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1347921161.33588.YahooMailNeo@web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1348076763.72570.YahooMailNeo@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 10:46:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Frank Fisher , Geo Hahn In-Reply-To: <1347921161.33588.YahooMailNeo@web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] lift the dot fastner tr3 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net on to the next question. having never owned a tonneau i have no experience of taking one off or putting one on. so how have you guys oriented your fasteners? did you start at the windshield zipper location and have the "lift the dot" stamping facing toward the passenger. work you way around the tonneau in the same way. make the passenger side the mirror image? im sure one or two have said "i wished id put that on the other way around" thanks Frank From: Frank Fisher Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 3:32 PM Subject: Re: [TR] lift the dot fastner tr3 i have all the studs in place. but i just had a doh! moment. moss shows the clips with different key numbers. if one follows and pays attention one finds they all have the same part number. thanks On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Frank Fisher wrote: looking at the moss catalogs it would appear that i require multiple different lift the dot fasteners for use on the tonneau of TS 41366? >really? >thanks >Frank ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 12:04:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB892D046F for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:04:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f169.google.com (mail-qc0-f169.google.com [209.85.216.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B072C0BF7 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:04:11 -0600 (MDT) Received: by qcsd16 with SMTP id d16so1255614qcs.14 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:07:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=DqSqIiTNctEaTUw1yjgSa+kdXBJCu5Zw8PWANtPhOSY=; b=cKHcdYikzKZvXwb3Xp/+XzliGyjAgWBVdKTjh3Vp+r2wcfoRNYG/gXQOg4jQL9tfQ6 RdzJ1nRcNpm4FFbLZcAG45vcYCkRJbZs7MVwNlFxXOKsAeJBFJIaTp9bXzsF4TwGrojD TCQm5F0VdTa6cAp5r0Q57F2x22DAeJz/wVdwIM9AiKdtYQ5L3UvyCu8kLZV/v/kAcNfb WQTm9CZyUWjfSk3i+KVyPgPda+O4p5Vn2/07UpIJ5vEy/aijdG+hQmeIxFVKsISHZ4jy OuL0Q/i3mD7vCs2IRxJVCg/zvJ/WwFruF1ZkdoO2JBbUmuE8istk3SoWahsyrCqvh5iY roNw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.183.83 with SMTP id cf19mr8887910qab.44.1348078031928; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:07:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.28.34 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:07:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1348076763.72570.YahooMailNeo@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <022901cd9515$19d0f970$0601a8c0@randall> <1347919337.28478.YahooMailNeo@web120006.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1347921161.33588.YahooMailNeo@web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <1348076763.72570.YahooMailNeo@web120004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:07:11 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Frank Fisher X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] lift the dot fastner tr3 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Frank - I have always installed with the 'dots' outward -- easier to lift & unfasten that way. One exception is if your tonneau has that slit to aid in tucking the tonneau behind the seat. That goes something like this and then this Geo. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Frank Fisher wrote: > on to the next question. > having never owned a tonneau i have no experience of taking one off or > putting one on. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 12:42:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3442D06DD for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:42:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A57D2D04C9 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 12:42:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=i+ZnmGSh0+SU47K8N6GOxA==:17 a=ctP1I5ahBe4A:10 a=zTVDa7HKqxcA:10 a=8A2-SfLM0G8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=doupyKFmAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=87HObFBUAAAA:8 a=9EgDrOjJanhjZkMGklkA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=0cSmYHG1OK8A:10 a=yY863xx4XNUA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=i+ZnmGSh0+SU47K8N6GOxA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 98.145.70.134 Received: from [98.145.70.134] ([98.145.70.134:55985] helo=GatewayPC) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from <308gtsi@roadrunner.com>) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 3C/52-28917-EA21A505; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:45:02 +0000 From: "Brian Induni" <308gtsi@roadrunner.com> To: Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 11:45:01 -0700 Message-ID: <004101cd9696$e0674ee0$a135eca0$@roadrunner.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2Wlt/3emnZzwH1TlSKdaQQNNd9xg== Content-Language: en-us X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120919-0, 09/19/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [TR] TR4A oil pan X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: 308gtsi@roadrunner.com List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello list, I have a left over oil pan from a TR4A I did a few years ago - free plus shipping to anyone who wants it. It looks like it was the recipient of engine bits raining on it (possible thrown rod?) and the splash guard was re-welded in place. No holes in the pan and would make a fine sump for a race car, or if yours is rusted, etc. Drop me an email at Binduni@gmail.com and let me know. Otherwise, it's going to the recycle bin. Had it on Triumph Experience but no interest http://www.triumphexperience.com/phorum/read.php?5,841402,841402#msg-841402 Gasket is gone, but you'll see the pan. Brian ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 15:57:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E962D04F0 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:57:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp2.execulink.net (smtp2.execulink.net [69.63.44.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 607CC2D03D6 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:57:41 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-11941.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([69.63.62.168] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TESK0-0006mZ-W0 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:00:41 -0400 Message-ID: <505A408E.5060600@execulink.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:00:46 -0400 From: Angelo Graham User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR2 - Tenax fasteners X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello List: A question about the Tenax fasteners on my '2 project. Moving to the more 'fun' stuff and finishing up the interior. Wondering about the Tenax pegs. In my disassembly I neglected to separate the longer & shorter Tenax pegs. Talking about the wood screw type - 1/2" & 3/4" in length. Do the shorter 1/2" pegs screw into the scuttle capping and the longer 3/4" screw into the door capping? I'm sure the same application of lengths applies to the '3s with the Lift-a-dot pegs. Not sure it matters a whole lot, but the factory in their wisdom did supply two lengths and trying to figure out what goes where. Thanks for any help with this one. Angelo Graham ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 16:15:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 076C92D0635 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:15:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp3.execulink.net (smtp3.execulink.net [69.63.44.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 538172D04C5 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:15:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-3178.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([216.59.252.106] helo=[192.168.4.104]) by smtp3.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TESbL-0003kS-HZ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:18:36 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Keith Stewart In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:18:35 -0400 Message-Id: <4985BC81-9DD7-4153-80D9-0BFB0763CFA6@execulink.com> References: To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] lift the dot fastner tr3 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, 19 Sep 2012, at 10:46 AM, Frank Fishert wrote: > > on to the next question. > having never owned a tonneau i have no experience of taking one off or putting one on. > so how have you guys oriented your fasteners? > did you start at the windshield zipper location and have the "lift the dot" stamping facing toward the passenger. work you way around the tonneau in the same way. make the passenger side the mirror image? > im sure one or two have said "i wished id put that on the other way around" The original tonneau that came with my 62 TR4 had the "dots" across the dash oriented so that the dots were to the outside of the car (i.e. driver side is opposite to passenger side). The "dots" down the sides have the dots facing forward. The "dots" across the rear are similar to those on the dash in that the dots face toward the outside of the car (again the driver side is opposite to the passenger side. The idea here is that typically you remove the tonneau by unsnapping from the front corner toward the centre of the dash, work your way toward the back and then across the back. Repeat on the other side. Many top and tonneau installers often have the dot pointing toward the outside of the material - not because it is a better way to do it, but because the tool they use only allows the holes to be punched in that direction (the scissor/pliers type of punch as opposed to the hammer and punch type). I would think that with the TR3 it would be easier if the dots pointed downward on the doors so that you can lift vertically to remove them. Keith R. Stewart London, Ontario E-Mail: keithstewartATexeculinkDOTcom ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 16:56:19 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D235D2D06C6 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:56:19 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pb0-f41.google.com (mail-pb0-f41.google.com [209.85.160.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EBCE2D04F7 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:56:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by pbbro12 with SMTP id ro12so3893701pbb.14 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:59:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type:x-mailer :thread-index:content-language; bh=F2mg2jJQK8ZfY39uKN2fFI7DhoXgSRdd5ZObl4G9i4Q=; b=RMylQ1nIuhVgeEVv7AMTZxhF8YWLMf50BT9z/zdjTLmHiDFP2EVMjrFpClyifjcRhz e1YThskwCWOJiEH0PXov2Sdv6vqjLmUEvW/PGG9vuxvjLx5ZlmptEvxsD0pdxd5M4sAq M7cfU2FjT4/xAjJK21vT/UZyV6D491i+FRz/+oGq+8ID26QZKkK+upph8bf9Z5qstdsX 9/PNTUZFeBvj0SqnoX5gn5V48NPR8vwgAbgTUMHrpThrNtqVNKJn+pYZt/W1N3gQxYb3 kpG31iraSJUWONAgBmdj/ZoOxnvuy+HY+qh4vmZUWGzsAvLl07ivfvWY4177btG4+4yr C9Pw== Received: by 10.66.75.74 with SMTP id a10mr717067paw.46.1348095546908; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:59:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from JamesHenningsen (ip70-187-90-37.ga.at.cox.net. [70.187.90.37]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id sj5sm2488209pbc.30.2012.09.19.15.59.05 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:59:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "James Henningsen" To: Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:59:25 -0400 Message-ID: <005401cd96ba$6ba03f80$42e0be80$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2WukI9HHXEBSpNRoSYxN2qSt4sEg== Content-Language: en-us X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Part Need X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net If anyone has an original lucas back up light assembly for the TR4 available, please contact me off list. Looking to add one on my car. Thanks, Jim Henningsen 62 TR4 75 TR6 Ocala FL ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 17:25:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41092D06C6 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:25:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35F42D04E1 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:24:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so3160137ied.14 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:27:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=xcVFwA1UhyrQuJFvCxr/cOZbfPdvoAWQAFUlUmsIKYs=; b=lNAuloiZ2tbKIp1cW8+ZT8Ub8tavg6ylk2uBatfu3x6F3NMwuZ9rqzWUmfIgjUSDGt u5scAWr1kwQ4tcTJU532T9lvtkQo58FZ/3OZShPTBXzRWYK3r9U1eHEbX6s5BBZtbCt0 siu5m5KQYNOB4Bxw9XEljqRIQpTDWJVO0eohPmGktp7Mrdu0Xx+VUrX7Wizx3ZVU3f9Z dgIvcLt0eoy+Q2j5JttPIrera+brv1GlfBuNYVT3C4lPvEk8ihPuOlz0iUGLBBoIWeEs IwFAucgWrLiQVKQvJywADO+IQiIAYYAjahGwn5bRuZGK3JL69USx/ytiFfSmUgI76NfO rlPQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.95.233 with SMTP id dn9mr19877igb.63.1348097277983; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.222.165 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:27:57 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Lee&John Howard" To: triumph list list X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR4, Fuel pump,and Flagstaff X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello list Here we are at 10,000 feet in Leadville, CO, enroute to Triumphest. Coincidental with changing the jets on the Webers and retuning for the altitude, the mechanical pump quit. The pin holding the lever in place backed out, and worse, the lever fell into the crankcase! This happened while driving to find tools to remove the pump ( I took the "opportunity" to install an electric pump) , so no immediate damage to anything. My question: is there a risk in driving with the lever in the oil pan? I presume it fell to the bottom and is now safely held down in the oil. There is a baffle in the pan, but I don't remember if it is forward or rear. If at the rear, could it be a problem as the lever may be lying that much closer to the crank? Is there something I'm not considering? Re Flagstaff, can someone there recommend a shop willing to put the car on the lift, drop the pan, fish out the lever, and reinstall? So I ( and my wife) can drive stress free in the events? Many thanks for your help John Howard ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 17:48:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A0B62D06AB for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:48:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com (mail-iy0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B562D04EA for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 17:48:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iaby26 with SMTP id y26so1383972iab.14 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:51:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=3E6km6CiCP/nTzjg+xpsbJk5qGo1s2dQnlGZ5yL7I1w=; b=0532y3tajHyHuxZE0FZgUeBCRre1/xcBnwvXrag+g8F8i/UGGF5Tba13W8knXFv3gy XlAEme0y0dfltmPuFpq7I7kk0ePlFqpVLYownik5UhV1/+8N3vpyEgKq/hXUp/HmEJ4j AY2ISrK7e4Q/TQdtcXkat6A8lIiQm7kAZGJpDeAZLOckCX+/VAnHYC9IY9RCrajnIuUu 6B+CcRHL/X4FR+wPP3I3VQxz34GsHLGasP5mL/wOkEGKzY37trYuI5pn76AVbsDCZRI9 DGC7mm2kNZcKcCrAaGO9qdN8TXdjfO9N2xomLa3ri/VxyNv95SeoUY7bkb67sFbmdRt9 oLyA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.151.172 with SMTP id ur12mr95399igb.44.1348098689734; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:51:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.0.143 with HTTP; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:51:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:51:29 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: "Lee&John Howard" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR4, Fuel pump,and Flagstaff X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Lee&John Howard wrote: > ...the lever fell into the crankcase!... I > presume it fell to the bottom and is now safely held down in the oil. There > is a baffle in the pan, but I don't remember if it is forward or rear. If > at the rear, could it be a problem as the lever may be lying that much > closer to the crank? > >From that recent generous offer of a free oil pan, this link shows what you're dealing with: http://www.triumphexperience.com/phorum/read.php?5,841402,841402#msg-841402 Given the size of the lever and recalling how closely the pickup screen fits thru that opening, I'd be concerned that the lever is laying on top of the splash guard. I'd be inclined to drop the pan and get it out. 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[174.26.37.4]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w4sm1451036paz.38.2012.09.19.16.54.46 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:54:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <505A5B43.5070507@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 16:54:43 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [TR] TR4, Fuel pump,and Flagstaff X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/19/12 4:27 PM, Lee&John Howard wrote: > Re Flagstaff, can someone there recommend a shop willing to put the car on > the lift, drop the pan, fish out the lever, and reinstall? So I ( and my > wife) can drive stress free in the events? I haven't tried them, but Brock Murphy at European Motor Company says he can work on Triumphs 928-214-7113 europeanmotorco@gmail.com I've had some Land Rover work done at Seven Day auto Service (928-774-0808). I've found them to be good and quick. There is nothing special about dropping an oil pan. Or if you don't mind laying on your back on a cement floor, I have a floor jack, jack stands and tools. But I do not have a spare pan gasket. If you want you can have gaskets, oil filter or any other parts you think you need express mailed to my address. Then if you plan to have the work done at a shop you can drop by and pick the parts up on your way to the shop. TeriAnn In Flagstaff, AZ. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 19:42:02 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A305D2D06F6 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:42:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.68]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 088342D04DB for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:40:11 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=h3xgqTgREdEoQOj/pfPASC9Nczq78W0Ew8RNxKRDxv6cGghl5uT3mSdkWqLqedUi; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [75.161.46.73] (helo=Shemp) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TEVnB-0000xL-Ft for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:43:01 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Cliff Hansen" To: "list Triumph" Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:43:04 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-ELNK-Trace: 528c356ac306a91c1da3787d14811d2a4d2b10475b57112052d440faabd7d0d1d54c1d63bacabda510da127345fe7d85350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 75.161.46.73 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Where does the solenoid mount on a TR4A? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Ibm staring at the firewall, solenoid in hand, and Gandalfbs line from a scene in Moria comes to mind bI have no memory of this place.b Anyone able to take a quick look and let me know where the starter solenoid mounts? Ibm guessing just above the passthrough for the heater hoses, but somehow that doesnbt look right. Many thanks, Cliff ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 19:43:50 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CEE2D06FE for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:43:50 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDE962D06CF for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:43:46 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=A2S81LT5ZinWu36PBKHgwkU2uJJQmlRT9wxY/qCdsSELZ7L5vDpZdYWMtQ8sF/yg; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [75.161.46.73] (helo=Shemp) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TEVqo-000649-Rx for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:46:47 -0400 Message-ID: <8DD400AD830646489F661C97A8EEFC31@Shemp> From: "Cliff Hansen" To: "list Triumph" References: <5C790DBDD9034DD5ADC8D2A20E22430C@Shemp> In-Reply-To: <5C790DBDD9034DD5ADC8D2A20E22430C@Shemp> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:46:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-ELNK-Trace: 528c356ac306a91c1da3787d14811d2a4d2b10475b57112052d440faabd7d0d14f2779aefe1d2f4fe6cf5548fce0747a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 75.161.46.73 Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - wiring harness grommet X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net So, the easiest solution to my problem turned out to be to order the correct part. For my 4A, at least, the grommet for the firewall for the main wiring harness is TRF part RG1, not RG3 as listed. Thanks to Bill Beecher for suggesting the grommet listed for the TR3 (RG1) which fits perfectly. Cliff -----Original Message----- From: Cliff Hansen Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 10:05 AM To: list Triumph Subject: [TR] TR4A - wiring harness grommet Guess I'm not getting that wiring harness in today. This is a dumb issue, but, wondering if anyone else dealt with it. TRF sells part #RG3 for the large grommet on the RHS of the firewall through which the wiring harness passes. This grommet is for a 1 7/8" hole and is the same part number for TR6. The hole in my car is 1 3/8". TRF doesn't list any other part. Moss only lists a 1 1/2" grommet for the TR4A and nothing for the TR6. Does anyone know either 1) the correct TRF part #; or 2) if the Moss part fits a 4A? Thanks much, Cliff ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cliff_hansen@earthlink.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 19:44:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 086912D0719 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:44:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com (st11p02mm-asmtpout002.mac.com [17.172.220.237]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F4F2D06CF for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:44:39 -0600 (MDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [192.168.0.25] (71-222-108-105.ptld.qwest.net [71.222.108.105]) by st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MAM004NIKYJAQ70@st11p02mm-asmtp002.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 01:47:14 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-09-19_07:2012-09-19,2012-09-19,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=2 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1209190353 From: Darrell Walker In-reply-to: Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 18:47:06 -0700 Message-id: <00626F7F-2DCC-4FE7-8B8F-AD47180A2742@mac.com> References: To: Cliff Hansen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Cc: list Triumph Subject: Re: [TR] Where does the solenoid mount on a TR4A? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Cliff, I believe the correct location is on the bracket that the battery hold down attaches to. -Darrell On Sep 19, 2012, at 6:43 PM, Cliff Hansen wrote: > Ibm staring at the firewall, solenoid in hand, and Gandalfbs line from a > scene in Moria comes to mind bI have no memory of this place.b > > Anyone able to take a quick look and let me know where the starter solenoid > mounts? Ibm guessing just above the passthrough for the heater hoses, but > somehow that doesnbt look right. > > Many thanks, > > Cliff > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/darrellw360@mac.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 20:04:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 171232D06EE for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:04:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp2.execulink.net (smtp2.execulink.net [69.63.44.83]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49D42D06CD for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:04:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-11180.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([69.63.59.175] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by smtp2.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TEWBF-0003gr-0d for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:07:53 -0400 Message-ID: <505A7A7D.5090705@execulink.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 22:07:57 -0400 From: Angelo Graham User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR2/3 glove box mounting X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello List: Can anyone help with the glove box mounting - especially the rear "L" shaped bracket? Again, not sure where this bracket fastens to the under dash. I assume the threaded bolt portion extends into the glove box and is fastened by a nut and washer (10-32?). Wondering about the end of the bracket - with a speed nut on it and where this fastens to the under dash area. Thanks for any help. Angelo Graham ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 19 21:30:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82AE02D06FE for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:30:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm21-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm21-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.220]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8BC222D06CD for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2012 21:30:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [72.30.22.77] by nm21.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2012 03:33:32 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.125] by tm11.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 20 Sep 2012 03:33:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1030.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 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Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:33:31 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1348112011.39904.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 20:33:31 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: William Brewer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This Ebay listing for a Morgan has a jpeg of the Morgan quadrant gauge with three instruments... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1960-Morgan-4-Roadster-NO-RESERVE-/30078096641 0?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4607f1520a Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 00:04:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29F5E2D0733 for ; 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19 Sep 2012 23:05:37 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Angelo Graham'" , References: <505A408E.5060600@execulink.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 01:05:46 -0500 Message-ID: <84353B255B3B426AB1F9F82496949071@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <505A408E.5060600@execulink.com> Thread-Index: Ac2WslK7nhIOjd8rQpu6+5+azy9fsgAQkCjg Subject: Re: [TR] TR2 - Tenax/Lift the dot pegs X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The 3/4" screw goes across the dash as you are going through the capping as well as the scuttle, whereas on the door use the 1/2" because you are only going through the metal directly into the wood rail. Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Angelo Graham Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 5:01 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] TR2 - Tenax fasteners Hello List: A question about the Tenax fasteners on my '2 project. Moving to the more 'fun' stuff and finishing up the interior. Wondering about the Tenax pegs. In my disassembly I neglected to separate the longer & shorter Tenax pegs. Talking about the wood screw type - 1/2" & 3/4" in length. Do the shorter 1/2" pegs screw into the scuttle capping and the longer 3/4" screw into the door capping? I'm sure the same application of lengths applies to the '3s with the Lift-a-dot pegs. Not sure it matters a whole lot, but the factory in their wisdom did supply two lengths and trying to figure out what goes where. Thanks for any help with this one. Angelo Graham ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 05:29:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F422D0712 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 05:29:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF91C2D06EE for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 05:29:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.13]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8KBWTP8031914 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 07:32:29 -0400 Received: from core-moa003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-ma06.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 54F7FE000085 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 07:32:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <2f193.65f97719.3d8c58c9@cs.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 07:32:26 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1348140749; bh=loaEVXUZzAvJnp3I8xHFprIFTmq3eY4HwGBKVA8k0ds=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=O/qq2NjWn8sm6Oe3m2OpKXcs9XzLTDcvhFB+f3dypM8CyD23CE8MAwNhvPNh0iM8H PApzEnp/JOr4z61gBAs9oTGMhozzioWMOmYknvsd+NpO5dmoTKycUlxQHTV/LBv52K 9lL3jb+x0SaA0kkL3uvsBmGfaWSXlkLDABlTWsp0= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:477291872:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290d505afecd5419 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR2/3 glove box mounting X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I used that press-stud to mount the bracket to the dash support. There is a small hole in the box for the screw that attaches the box to the bracket. A U-style clip on nut eliminates the need of trying to feed a nut on the blind side of the box. Dave In a message dated 9/19/2012 9:07:59 PM Central Daylight Time, agraham@execulink.com writes: > Hello List: > Can anyone help with the glove box mounting - especially the rear "L" > shaped bracket? Again, not sure where this bracket fastens to the under > dash. I assume the threaded bolt portion extends into the glove box and > is fastened by a nut and washer (10-32?). Wondering about the end of the > bracket - with a speed nut on it and where this fastens to the under > dash area. > Thanks for any help. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 05:43:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34A72D071F for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 05:43:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F242D070D for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 05:41:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.75]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8KBihlt001620 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 07:44:43 -0400 Received: from core-moa003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moa003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.9]) by mtaomg-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 26DC6E000081 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 07:44:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <2f4f0.7bf3e2c5.3d8c5baa@cs.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 07:44:43 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1348141483; bh=/nUnoVHxPsM3CLPxzvDmfBn3XJ5Vb2MLkjenQDMHY8M=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ptxccMSpfdCQj7+JG5+jBo0aWHtm8IGIF50/tcfIAGtLJ8UnIA8IiU1fsa9ctUi6Q hh1tUIWLcPybc9182Lhk6VZvJUCLh+tOCdCnwden5lcJfMogkcYYbYAxWc/WvgHPjK 141/AqECqSpVkxpCkJVlvJmfl504I9M5j8w7KDlc= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:422440192:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d294b505b01ab03c3 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Well, that's obvious, it got a fuel gauge, an oil pressure gauge, an ammeter and a fuel gauge. That's four. I guess they couldn't call it a Trident gauge without running into problems with Maserati. Dave In a message dated 9/19/2012 10:33:40 PM Central Daylight Time, wsb1960tr3a@att.net writes: > This Ebay listing for a Morgan has a jpeg of the Morgan quadrant > gauge > with three instruments... > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1960-Morgan-4-Roadster-NO-RESERVE-/300780966 > 41 > 0?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item4607f1520a ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 08:33:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BAB2D071F for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:33:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail07.truedefense.com (mail07.truedefense.com [216.69.224.217]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62B882D04E1 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:33:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mail05.truedefense.com (unknown [172.16.9.36]) by mail07.truedefense.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D40FC60D0; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 07:36:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ex1hts01.onthenetoffice.com ([172.16.8.31]) by mail05.truedefense.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q8KEa7aJ067927; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 07:36:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from JPayne@ThorCon.net) Received: from EX1MBX01.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::f9f4:b916:4b54:5534]) by ex1hts01.onthenetoffice.com ([fe80::dcca:855d:bb32:dc3f%12]) with mapi id 14.02.0247.003; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 07:36:07 -0700 From: Jonas Payne To: "'William Brewer'" , Triumphs Thread-Topic: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge Thread-Index: AQHNluDGm6xtm1Urk0OK7QhVUuOZLJeTSnxA Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:36:06 +0000 Message-ID: <5891B364A7C3594B9466304B59E65B1C45D06D4E@ex1mbx01.onthenetoffice.com> References: <1348112011.39904.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1348112011.39904.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US x-originating-ip: [172.16.12.69] x-pp-proceessed: f14c9345-0aa7-4395-be7e-1fa366b271af MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [TR] Morgan Quadrant Gauge X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Morgan "Quadrant" Gauges have 4 instruments. Oil Pressure, Fuel Level, Water Temp and Amperage. These Gauges were installed in the TR powered "+4" sportscars. Of which I own 2, a 1960 Roadster and a 1961 Drop head Coupe. The gauge shown in the dash of the ebay car is not a "Quadrant" gauge, and the car is not a "+4". Rather it is a ford powered "4-4" which was and is to this day, the "Entry level" Morgan sports car. Following is a link to the catalog for "Morgan Spares" in NY for the +4 instrument panel. Also following is a link to the 4-4 instrument panel. http://www.morgan-spares.com/images/parts_book_graphics/combined/dashpanel_19 56-60_gs.jpg http://www.morgan-spares.com/images/parts_book_graphics/4_4graphics/dash.gif Jonas Payne PBR Cell: (702) 358-5084 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 09:19:45 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F7552D075A for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:19:45 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com (mail-iy0-f169.google.com [209.85.210.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783862D0740 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:19:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: by iaby26 with SMTP id y26so2099612iab.14 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:22:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=gNBxxzXHv9AGSkCwcmi3zOrALqbsoeORiUq3dSz3XL8=; b=IS03zfg8ddlq+4AT+YmqcG+okxKtnTR0WMC/10VHNrHursqdRn8GF+w2R2TWJd/0er 4tplzDth+yjrnvDPmc7D4kAbqI4Ka4ezJ7YhM6Z31ZIHYPtOok7h1sGt4AtdgeLZ9HT/ SXua+uV0CoTKJ7Z2AVquTsHLvJvE3c1SuLNRoOCWKVRPkupBbWS7JVtySwYKcwywu5PK qdA4AFs3RIVp3UBYA5oag23PMmAuXcaS8xUepJq2YhMGFmrlpDyIpGxi4rlUAxEF82FH h/hznZExCMQUB6SJ8dBIxVQ94v+vPqzxjtaZvlCDpaxXQJltQcbzlwdpfdbTlbpxawMU pQ+Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.187.194 with SMTP id fu2mr870804igc.63.1348154553560; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:22:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.222.165 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:22:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:22:33 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Lee&John Howard" To: Geo Hahn X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR4, Fuel pump,and Flagstaff X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks, George, for the picture. I didn't remember where the splash guard ran.. Yep, Gotta drop the pan. John On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:51 PM, Geo Hahn wrote: > On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Lee&John Howard wrote: > >> ...the lever fell into the crankcase!... I >> >> presume it fell to the bottom and is now safely held down in the oil. >> There >> is a baffle in the pan, but I don't remember if it is forward or rear. If >> at the rear, could it be a problem as the lever may be lying that much >> closer to the crank? >> >> > > From that recent generous offer of a free oil pan, this link shows what > you're dealing with: > > http://www.triumphexperience.com/phorum/read.php?5,841402,841402#msg-841402 > > Given the size of the lever and recalling how closely the pickup screen > fits thru that opening, I'd be concerned that the lever is laying on top of > the splash guard. > > I'd be inclined to drop the pan and get it out. > > Geo ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 09:35:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA8A82D0757 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:35:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37E422D0723 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:32:31 -0600 (MDT) Received: by padhz10 with SMTP id hz10so224262pad.14 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:35:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type; bh=yeRljiEDwz5+2lQjQQadRh4Aw04f3aLdz4M4rFtON1c=; b=jEz0oxu8vFYZoGQFPa7uRrLD1YP6OvwjEvkbDTpDlLoI21RsFu2tsfEOCuwi3FUBGG U+bsqS/vVNXajIWejF9VWLYXF7FfR5NOoihWPzcQIKgKAfsGIyQm4U4eWoW/W+BrxiOP ynJgKayd43J97yKdv9ZcTsMPQVA92tQkiavyjD3vGgRDgTwLcVDgG8cymvyAsk/MaYOA gQDGxM5qhyQI4xyO6yvyBpzBcRoTV2m9aj9ubpcvqmknCl8UHcop4/GyNIuPzvVXpMk0 wa5GAdijCruCRG/Z+lJIX+rL0Paz2gMEXo+KFNv64jNHGM9Eai6lrxNZdUJv6J8fAxi2 f2ZQ== Received: by 10.68.131.2 with SMTP id oi2mr7738294pbb.78.1348155332319; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-154-144.phnx.qwest.net. [174.19.154.144]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s10sm2612286paz.11.2012.09.20.08.35.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:35:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <505B37C1.5010401@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:35:29 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumph List X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Triumphest 2012 weather X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I just looked at the weather prediction for the end of the month and thought I'd pass it on for people planning to be at Triumphest. Pretty much all this month the weather has been highs in the mid to high70's with lows in the mid 40's but there appears to be some cooler fall weather coming in for Triumphest. Friday, Sept 28 prediction is currently clear with a high of 68 degrees and a low of 36 degrees. Saturday, the 29th prediction is clear with a high of 63 degrees and a low of 39 degrees. So mornings will be chilly and for those of you from hot climates the afternoon might be chilly to you as well. So be sure to pack accordingly. Current cheap gas is a tad over $3.70/gal for regular. Best places for cheap gas is SAMs club, Safeway and Frys food stores gas stations and the Mavrick gas station if you are coming into town from the West and take the route 66 exit from I40 into Flagstaff. If you are coming in from the West there is a gas station about 10 miles East of the CA border on I40 where you can save a lot of $$ over the needles stations. And if you have extra time built in to your trip don't forget you are only about a half hour away from Wupatki National Monument and about 75 miles from Grand Canyon South Rim and about 3-1/2 hours from Monument Valley. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 09:38:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 621D42D077D for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:38:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ACB62D073C for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:38:07 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so4748217ied.14 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:41:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ZAdM896eQWhKUFBBzghfiXHM0ixo11bMWiMgK+c5aS8=; b=cCv94phA8LShIAQspQKsYab1dxykaL2bHVuYEI6Qzy/RlO2/7a8kcn0FBTZEUHsumV NYbydtNL+Lwn4JQ0WLkty2OjJnQt/kJwQ80Wf3hDc3c2elVjRJJF+plXryUabUNPt4zE vaCK3emvKCtWhsS9WtL02iXVv080nLimLkHq2lhcTjnpX7Cc1tAb6RVbUzHk9vc3lXLA UsKpgxhVb9OeazSt1DrmFlR6OaFhiUquFkN8VthxS2qUB4nEzHipTPHxd47F47tgBVX5 10o4Cjzn1xgrakI7/ozKRIrLck0tWxGSfERh1dpyqOOlt61yARjg9g/GWBRDLvH5N+nb pptQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.15.132 with SMTP id x4mr2012706igc.58.1348155668353; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:41:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.222.165 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:41:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <505A5B43.5070507@gmail.com> References: <505A5B43.5070507@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 08:41:08 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Lee&John Howard" To: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR4, Fuel pump,and Flagstaff X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net TeriAnn - Thank you for that information. I've talked to Seven Day Auto - the guy once had a Healy - so understands the problem. He figures way under an hour, which is what it would take even me. I'll have Moss ship a gasket directly, and have an appointment there on Monday. See you in Flagstaff! John On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 4:54 PM, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: > On 9/19/12 4:27 PM, Lee&John Howard wrote: > >> Re Flagstaff, can someone there recommend a shop willing to put the car on >> the lift, drop the pan, fish out the lever, and reinstall? So I ( and my >> wife) can drive stress free in the events? >> > I haven't tried them, but Brock Murphy at European Motor Company says he > can work on Triumphs > 928-214-7113 > europeanmotorco@gmail.com > > I've had some Land Rover work done at Seven Day auto Service (928-774-0808). > I've found them to be good and quick. There is nothing special about > dropping an oil pan. > > Or if you don't mind laying on your back on a cement floor, I have a floor > jack, jack stands and tools. But I do not have a spare pan gasket. > > If you want you can have gaskets, oil filter or any other parts you think > you need express mailed to my address. Then if you plan to have the work > done at a shop you can drop by and pick the parts up on your way to the > shop. > > TeriAnn > In Flagstaff, AZ. > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/triumphs/leejohn7@**gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 09:52:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A72662D076F for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:52:51 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.199]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58B8E2D074B for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:52:46 -0600 (MDT) Received: from DennisPC (ool-182c78ad.dyn.optonline.net [24.44.120.173]) by mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MAN00M29O8TCWR0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:55:46 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 11:55:36 -0400 From: Dennis Culligan To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <000601cd9748$605c3eb0$2114bc10$@net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Content-language: en-us Thread-index: Ac2XSF/x90g4QODXQGCN94yGi9YiJg== X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] TR4, Fuel pump,and Flagstaff X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net "Lee&John Howard" wrote: >snip > the lever fell into the crankcase! I don't know if the oil pans on the TR4 and TR6 are at all alike but when the fuel pump lever broke off and dropped into the pan on my TR6 at the VTR event in Rockford, IL (MANY years ago), while preparing to put the car up on ramps and drop the pan, someone (I think it was one R. John Lye) suggested getting a magnet on a stick and poking around through the drain hole. We did that and the lever came right out! No pan drop, no new gasket, no problem. YMMV. Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 10:00:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD4862D076F for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:00:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12F3F2D0751 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:00:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so4802312ied.14 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:03:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=WvhV7bsk9tJrOlIPPUMtESl8zJEb35h66v2YVi+s1qY=; b=kBXuElXwk3qzt+CbIJmXAow1/EKTJr/3AxuutLxrgG/w5zyJZQtj3BMseJrGoDZ0nM t7hgv9m9jp/tlqSp0qxtpVQ+3mOuIacQzBxw/QX2FGOcqD8IRHEZyY1rMM5D5Shf+Krd yjIth5b+EIuAb9kL7iy1mpHt+6eoWCVUDE4DVDcBF+Qe8F2IUoNsGeDbLxgnwFsZ81at tE79wP3175CixfCnKw5Ud/uQYodkeiLv44vv1D8jWM4JCCP3GYHIw3JMWK61zmT9M22O 0wOrJo7i1Vegbuxe2/ZsVlSwPWd32rEUwaJUjV/4S55krsbJNXyWl/q7dAsi9XHlt2Y8 AGGA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.37.196 with SMTP id a4mr2928390igk.27.1348157019546; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:03:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.222.165 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:03:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <000601cd9748$605c3eb0$2114bc10$@net> References: <000601cd9748$605c3eb0$2114bc10$@net> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:03:39 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Lee&John Howard" To: Dennis Culligan X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] TR4, Fuel pump,and Flagstaff X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Actually, I've tried that with no luck. I imagine the lever moved around as I drove along a rough road to get the tools. Thanks for the tip John On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 8:55 AM, Dennis Culligan wrote: > "Lee&John Howard" wrote:**** > > >snip**** > > > the lever fell into the crankcase! **** > > ** ** > > I dont know if the oil pans on the TR4 and TR6 are at all alike but when > the fuel pump lever broke off and dropped into the pan on my TR6 at the VTR > event in Rockford, IL (MANY years ago), while preparing to put the car up > on ramps and drop the pan, someone (I think it was one R. John Lye) > suggested getting a magnet on a stick and poking around through the drain > hole. We did that and the lever came right out! No pan drop, no new > gasket, no problem. YMMV.**** > > Dennis Culligan, Highland, NY / 1976 TR6 CF57948U **** > > **** ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 17:53:01 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5472D070F for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:53:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 693492D048F; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:52:11 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=pAbLZCNKPJioTqQkh7BcLhfsfQ9ssfPo7gPlI79MK0y1+u5Rnoohxkyw9mILphoq; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Cc:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.30] (helo=mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TEqaO-0005L1-6I; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:55:12 -0400 Received: from 173.55.148.99 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:55:11 -0400 Message-ID: <26121993.1348185312024.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 16:55:11 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: rfeibusch1@earthlink.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: f71e85446633dbfccbea1fb84dfb8425239a348a220c2609bd3e6814a620483ab4ee7a494739d081a7ce0e8f8d31aa3f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.30 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from text/html by demime 1.01d Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] The British Fall Classic - Oct 21st, 2012 in Morgan Hill, CA. X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: rfeibusch1@earthlink.net List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net /local/mailman/lynxXXXX2GtRan: Permission denied ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 20 18:06:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2367A2D02E5 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:06:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.69]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DD752D0387; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 18:04:54 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=T08v60WVgFcgm14iAEb21XxSjZ+oeRHleUmXQfmWPL607i8lSnTc9YpENcX+Tdwl; h=Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Subject:Cc:Mime-Version:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [209.86.224.30] (helo=mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-mealy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TEqmN-0000O4-9w; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:07:35 -0400 Received: from 173.55.148.99 by webmail.earthlink.net with HTTP; Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:07:35 -0400 Message-ID: <15651761.1348186055175.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 17:07:35 -0700 (GMT-07:00) From: rfeibusch1@earthlink.net To: tigers@autox.team.net, triumphs@autox.team.net Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: f71e85446633dbfccbea1fb84dfb8425239a348a220c2609d5180e4e30c7e22d752403291e7bf6da350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.30 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from text/html by demime 1.01d Cc: spitfires@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] San Diego British Car Day Sunday, 10/7/12 X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: rfeibusch1@earthlink.net List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net /local/mailman/lynxXXXXLQMHqB: Permission denied ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 21 08:17:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F912D0324 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:17:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A1DB2D0318 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:16:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: from PetePC ([unknown] [71.180.231.250]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MAP0021PEGV2270@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:19:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: From: "Peter Ryner" To: References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> In-reply-to: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:19:43 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I remember an email that contained a link to the TR schedule of repair operation times. I thought I saved the link, but now can't find it. My printer was down so I didn't get a chance to print it. Can someone please repost the link? TIA Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 10:20 PM Subject: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual > This question is, I think, in the same vein with those about the service > bulletins. > > I recently snagged a "1977 TR7 Repair Operation Times" booklet - an > original British Leyland publication intended to serve as a flat rate > time > guide for dealer service departments - interesting - IMHO anyway > > Does anybody have these for other models? TR6? GT6? TR8? > are they posted online anywhere? > > Cheers, > Jack Mc > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pryner@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 21 08:38:10 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E3CC2D0751 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:38:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qa0-f41.google.com (mail-qa0-f41.google.com [209.85.216.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12AF22D0748 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:37:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: by qafk30 with SMTP id k30so1544733qaf.14 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 07:40:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=GgqJom/Obb7SxZPmipjDWHeFdcLQJSaLlAj8MoqAkJE=; b=mQ3s64BiO7k0YfMms224TY3c7O1lL94xWDO98ANCTzlmbl5zJ+MQ9iJnql/VPvI4MU 1XFfCvXHKjf6AtQbAuRoaabJrd6z6e0zee8Db14RP+Lcsy7ar20J0FB2UK5wvqlmjOkh Qda8OHqhpYWrnm4nSwWFngcYhQXnA2BRHKI/fg8uC5ZzHl6RTJnahUNuhYgC99Ol7+E2 3kgVwmTUyX0vl+4Qg1gGyDFSwEJBh8PhgzfNFwoFVpBVAEaIDSp9VtwgFn3tjxBo/lqK JgbVE9HSxU+qP4vpGhwfh1CRKiyzAzxfaYdtp43MJFRlQxuMyDAaldDxL9YE/TE20E3j Go7Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.183.83 with SMTP id cf19mr12671503qab.44.1348238456063; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 07:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.28.34 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 07:40:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 07:40:55 -0700 Message-ID: From: Geo Hahn To: Peter Ryner X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Here from my folder entitled 'The Best of Randall': Stag: http://tinyurl.com/9t5jm32 TR3: http://tinyurl.com/98tq3sz Seriously, I really have such a folder. Geo On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Peter Ryner wrote: > I remember an email that contained a link to the TR schedule of repair > operation times. I thought I saved the link, but now can't find it. My > printer was down so I didn't get a chance to print it. Can someone please > repost the link? > TIA > Pete ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 21 09:03:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B78A2D0757 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 09:03:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173021pub.verizon.net (vms173021pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.21]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EED052D073C for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 08:59:29 -0600 (MDT) Received: from PetePC ([unknown] [71.180.231.250]) by vms173021.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MAP00BZVGG15IRP@vms173021.mailsrvcs.net> for Triumphs@autox.team.net; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 10:02:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <34AD487372454E799A18DF8D009408D4@PetePC> From: "Peter Ryner" To: "Geo Hahn" References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> In-reply-to: Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:02:24 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks Geo and Bill. Got it!! Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: Geo Hahn To: Peter Ryner Cc: Triumphs Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 10:40 AM Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual Here from my folder entitled 'The Best of Randall': Stag: http://tinyurl.com/9t5jm32 TR3: http://tinyurl.com/98tq3sz Seriously, I really have such a folder. Geo On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Peter Ryner wrote: I remember an email that contained a link to the TR schedule of repair operation times. I thought I saved the link, but now can't find it. My printer was down so I didn't get a chance to print it. Can someone please repost the link? TIA Pete ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 21 16:01:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE6632D0790 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 16:01:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C94892D0748 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:59:25 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbbgj10 with SMTP id gj10so5303553lbb.14 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:02:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=gtVjiS99FjRB2ODbi9SbUt6gz+2QjI7805yfjpaCRnE=; b=tGraME9Etkx0bX3/4BoevwtS3RDOCISYgZciOaQWl2av/gPgzwcJTqBJzxs5/Z0Gpf 1qDH65XRQfLU+O59OJR68zPPey8gBnLIXFfCS0xmxWEPEmrRwpJtMS+S4I2sCaomhkOk FxWx9gD9V5MROb5nIpa0QrbT2vQRadCkGSId59mdZ/pMWNdUaVsK47JAfniX2Vxo6/D6 FwvkFB7HxnLgT5phDW3FNXl7EwCYVR27m2iEoT2IOkb8InM0SyLHqTnDFE3517Gh6JEh 1BEYV5kc9zpirYK3xMuv1nOh+4/gF+pnTP8gy5PIU73BsUQfsr1rIXiGN3AtTQrhyuap jhZw== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.23.36 with SMTP id j4mr2129203lbf.71.1348264944439; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.2.202 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 15:02:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:02:24 -0400 Message-ID: From: alan salvatore To: Peter Ryner X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The Roadster Factory sells the booklet for the TR6. Al On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Peter Ryner wrote: > I remember an email that contained a link to the TR schedule of repair > operation times. I thought I saved the link, but now can't find it. My > printer was down so I didn't get a chance to print it. Can someone please > repost the link? > TIA > Pete > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 10:20 PM > Subject: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual > > > This question is, I think, in the same vein with those about the service >> bulletins. >> >> I recently snagged a "1977 TR7 Repair Operation Times" booklet - an >> original British Leyland publication intended to serve as a flat rate >> time >> guide for dealer service departments - interesting - IMHO anyway >> >> Does anybody have these for other models? TR6? GT6? TR8? >> are they posted online anywhere? >> >> Cheers, >> Jack Mc >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/triumphs/pryner@**verizon.net >> > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > options/triumphs/alansalvy@**gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 21 19:27:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB93D2D07C4 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:27:38 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F6EC2D07C3 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:27:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.1]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8M1UIBC026971; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:30:18 -0400 Received: from [192.168.1.2] (4.sub-166-248-66.myvzw.com [166.248.66.4]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mtaout-ma01.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPSA id DDE50E0000EF; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:30:17 -0400 (EDT) References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Message-Id: X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B206) From: Jack Mc Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:30:15 -0400 To: alan salvatore x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1348277418; bh=eVohWY61LoC6GewW/fVK90Myc4VnZbFBqqT5Klv37RM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:Mime-Version:Content-Type; b=x/iNWFqLUtbxVnprSCIzSGf4KPTOjQrDu0somShi6mZXeWQDbC7RCVjztmg7qd7CO CkSpy7AWmHfaVm7cMghaa0TD5BgtlRMmXl5tGk0bfNZfcB0vGQBHhdUJOZwAGtRGf9 I/a5Ms7UES3I564RpqmJvQQtW7lDEeiyrrd8Cfas= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:504584992:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d2901505d14a915d9 X-AOL-IP: 166.248.66.4 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I can't find it on the TRF web site - do you know how they have it listed? Cheers Jack Mc Sent from my iPad On Sep 21, 2012, at 6:02 PM, alan salvatore wrote: > The Roadster Factory sells the booklet for the TR6. > > Al > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Peter Ryner wrote: > >> I remember an email that contained a link to the TR schedule of repair >> operation times. I thought I saved the link, but now can't find it. My >> printer was down so I didn't get a chance to print it. Can someone please >> repost the link? >> TIA >> Pete >> ----- Original Message ----- From: >> To: >> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 10:20 PM >> Subject: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual >> >> >> This question is, I think, in the same vein with those about the service >>> bulletins. >>> >>> I recently snagged a "1977 TR7 Repair Operation Times" booklet - an >>> original British Leyland publication intended to serve as a flat rate >>> time >>> guide for dealer service departments - interesting - IMHO anyway >>> >>> Does anybody have these for other models? TR6? GT6? TR8? >>> are they posted online anywhere? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Jack Mc >>> >>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >>> >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >>> options/triumphs/pryner@**verizon.net >>> >> >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** >> >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** >> options/triumphs/alansalvy@**gmail.com > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mcgaheyrx@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 21 19:44:11 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 123932D07C7 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:44:11 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-qc0-f182.google.com (mail-qc0-f182.google.com [209.85.216.182]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA2D02D07C6 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:43:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: by qcsg15 with SMTP id g15so42003qcs.41 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:46:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ePfQ79s2pQxinFwWcVs86GGAGVekpA5AbjagjuPCbBU=; b=e145kZCh/Rf2KZ0LV3MdKvu6gMjrnItsf3Uos2+0xTJAdJKuGMEZDtv+ZwSbj+DrHx 1PNJ+KFDsWGRNyviyiM7Ei7fQWg+JBi7Qs8wUB8XJDkGUGayn/AJzQm4NrKs7AcHwpE4 8R5QulWy+L8ixJsDEyR/NqXAV4ZhJi2+rXHPjdMPgzzmQZtMeve/f97kZPNDeJGAjgDD dNUi5mhlg1KJjot51EfVYuN+UxqVfAACHV2TQLf2pfSvXCFKVdSOkue6N+pDqocDQKAY heZGWGJY/cUwgkCb/H5b+qsa7IdNHOTQUQqd7TcHIFI7ZVSa1uM8TbksFkUo5AhP104E 5BGg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.1.69 with SMTP id 5mr16296340qae.61.1348278412765; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.58.178 with HTTP; Fri, 21 Sep 2012 18:46:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2a1ed.4e50c485.3d7c0566@aol.com> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2012 21:46:52 -0400 Message-ID: From: alan salvatore To: Jack Mc X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Its listed in TR6 Assembly Manual, Volume 1, page one. ( Blue Catalog) TRF HAC52E TR6 REPAIR OPERATION TIMES $3.52 Cheers, Al AA17 *HAC52E* *TR6 Repair Operation Times.* 28 pages, self-cover. A/R Published by British Leyland, 1976. Covers the times allotted to dealer mechanics for completing AA17 *HAC52E* *TR6 Repair Operation Times.* 28 pages, self-cover. A/R Published by British Leyland, 1976. Covers the times allotted to dealer mechanics for completing On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Jack Mc wrote: > I can't find it on the TRF web site - do you know how they have it listed? > > Cheers > Jack Mc > > Sent from my iPad > > On Sep 21, 2012, at 6:02 PM, alan salvatore wrote: > > > The Roadster Factory sells the booklet for the TR6. > > > > Al > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Peter Ryner > wrote: > > > >> I remember an email that contained a link to the TR schedule of repair > >> operation times. I thought I saved the link, but now can't find it. My > >> printer was down so I didn't get a chance to print it. Can someone > please > >> repost the link? > >> TIA > >> Pete > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: > >> To: > >> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 10:20 PM > >> Subject: [TR] Triumph repair operation time guide - aka flat rate manual > >> > >> > >> This question is, I think, in the same vein with those about the service > >>> bulletins. > >>> > >>> I recently snagged a "1977 TR7 Repair Operation Times" booklet - an > >>> original British Leyland publication intended to serve as a flat rate > >>> time > >>> guide for dealer service departments - interesting - IMHO anyway > >>> > >>> Does anybody have these for other models? TR6? GT6? TR8? > >>> are they posted online anywhere? > >>> > >>> Cheers, > >>> Jack Mc > >>> > >>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >>> > >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html< > http://www.team.net/donate.html> > >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > >>> options/triumphs/pryner@**verizon.net< > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/pryner@verizon.net> > >>> > >> > >> ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > >> > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.**html< > http://www.team.net/donate.html> > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/** > >> options/triumphs/alansalvy@**gmail.com< > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/alansalvy@gmail.com> > > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/mcgaheyrx@aol.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 09:23:06 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 319402D0405 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:23:06 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm38-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm38-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.19]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CAA12D0401 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:22:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.215.140] by nm38.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2012 15:25:50 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.108] by tm11.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2012 15:25:50 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2012 15:25:50 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 343194.79791.bm@omp1013.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 83374 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Sep 2012 15:25:49 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1348327549; bh=CLEmBEA6xPXBYyty4QLmtLdz57qzGRE7XRZ01EuxV+w=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ZX/80kPLhgeZvXhKkqXq/gar4QmNBW8g5ulOoKNaQ0WInTdxND53kx/12Io3JhJyQJxv6I15h5hxAFfpyXWFd7kzHAbVSnwmDQ6GtsaPMuXIRrm2vMkSkx9w7+8qlzgfghqHVuMlSJBamFzCZWqmBd0WUH2Y0b+v9/mvpD1181Q= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=pEG3X4A3GnRLVig49tMEb7N6/WwQaNYKmVf4h7cEqJbh0C5eic+gyeTtZ2kDcCvM6o/UGNP0hwbvzDnTvf1/Mj1omtsS0xfXnGpAFhftK3HDfJ4Pd7pLuvY7NN59a4fDA05QftwDWGBzJQMsdCqvScC6iNtWshqcUA5R4/H8AHE=; X-YMail-OSG: 3jKU96wVM1lJjRU.evLfCJzCN5b2Cwk4f2Fsh00Z8yGD0en yYLbA_.YaxPJUBVgFAeuYigvbV_wiK2Iiavi7exj.3XsEDIt7w5j0X1tzLAB GSKRXjl_Wm4uX.Kj_2vm8L6_eshgti3P3Dhbn27dzwK4617pFBy3W2PYi.Lj 3dOCZIqIlq8cfaVZpw1jcq4Egj7HNuZQGqUfo2AITrhNmK.KVtCx8ti47kJY 3.7ndY_9q..MhT2Y8RR.NELsxorOUEo6q_cLSUPO1OJTCQBJsmGehrQFkx5y Ea2JFGIoqi31p3m0DIYUyuoIj7mklkb2PX8JVBhJP0iEH7YpiY9lz0ttDttd ggM_pbFTyF_llT1OGr3x2XWw2eHAy7Y516Im.ZwmbLhbkVpSNMePjR0u9RiB PBB1P8UfYM9Apuys6lq7SnmgvTj0RwQZJRP.KSkSnsGWqmQ15ZmbjmGQqeMl foM9fhOrgh1xKxp.1u4TD_dQkZ0VzgYl0PLNOhv8HgpNilE3maHmj5kO6kSk - Received: from [107.195.29.13] by web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 08:25:49 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 08:25:49 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: William Brewer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I need to add/change the coolant in my TR3. I remember years ago I used something that I bought at a Toyota dealer ISTR. It may have been called "No-Rosian" or something like that. What are the best coolants to use in a TR to minimize rust build-up in the block? I don't want to use Prestone or Autozone cheapie if there is something good out there. TIA, Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 09:49:48 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513882D03E3 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:49:48 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from st11p02mm-asmtp005.mac.com (st11p02mm-asmtpout005.mac.com [17.172.220.240]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 576DD2D03DD for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 09:46:01 -0600 (MDT) MIME-version: 1.0 Received: from [192.168.0.25] (71-222-108-105.ptld.qwest.net [71.222.108.105]) by st11p02mm-asmtp005.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-24.01(7.0.4.24.0) 64bit (built Jan 3 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MAR00MTSD9K29B0@st11p02mm-asmtp005.mac.com> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:49:03 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.7.7855,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-09-22_04:2012-09-21,2012-09-22,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1209220178 From: Darrell Walker In-reply-to: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 08:48:56 -0700 Message-id: <8F03BDBC-5707-4FF4-BEA4-67256012D0EE@mac.com> References: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> To: William Brewer X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Bill, Fred Thomas was an advocate of No-Rosion: http://www.no-rosion.com I've used it in my TR4A for several years, and it seems to be doing the job. -Darrell -- Darrell Walker 66 TR4A IRS-SC CTC67956L 81 TR8 SATPZ458XBA406206 Vancouver, WA, USA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 11:41:17 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DC3B2D07A2 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:41:17 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (fed1rmfepo103.cox.net [68.230.241.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDAB72D038B for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:39:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: from fed1rmimpo305 ([68.230.241.173]) by fed1rmfepo103.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.04.00 201-2260-137-20101110) with ESMTP id <20120922174222.JLRP9100.fed1rmfepo103.cox.net@fed1rmimpo305> for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:42:22 -0400 Received: from Vista ([70.190.241.231]) by fed1rmimpo305 with cox id 2HiN1k00450Fepi01HiNBC; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:42:22 -0400 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020201.505DF87E.0059,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H8hZMpki c=1 sm=1 a=YXrDTWBbwbeLZAQKZEP30w==:17 a=G8Uczd0VNMoA:10 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=sNbHjcKCZEEA:10 a=iYC5IMKlkRGydF2jbw8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=G3tZZ4t64rBne8uCOq4A:9 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=YXrDTWBbwbeLZAQKZEP30w==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Authentication-Results: cox.net; none From: "Joe Curry" To: , Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:42:45 -0700 Message-ID: <35C3C53452604854BF0D4327F5CCF02A@Vista> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2Y6axBbb/O7iwATYO9tEOf2vuWmA== X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] VTR autocross results archives X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone know if there is an archive of the results of VTR autocrosses through the years? I am particularly interested in the 2001 held in Breckinridge, CO. Thanks, Joe ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 11:53:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C77332D039A for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:53:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D3F82D048C for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:49:32 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IuCcgcDg c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=3NK5x1vfzfMA:10 a=ACT1KH5WAAAA:8 a=yyR9o-y2xurdhqUFkAoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge03.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 0A/E7-17657-1EAFD505; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:52:34 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: "'Triumphs'" References: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8F03BDBC-5707-4FF4-BEA4-67256012D0EE@mac.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:53:15 -0700 Message-ID: <005a01cd98eb$24729d00$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <8F03BDBC-5707-4FF4-BEA4-67256012D0EE@mac.com> Thread-Index: Ac2Y2luOUwlKnxvOTw2DFucMTw3MhAAEH+pA Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Fred Thomas was an advocate of No-Rosion: > > http://www.no-rosion.com > > I've used it in my TR4A for several years, and it seems to be > doing the job. It does seem to work, if you follow their maintenance schedule. Personally, I prefer Zerex G-05 or Prestone "Extended Life" that you only have to mess with every 5 years instead of every year. Hopefully, I've finally built a cooling system in my TR that will go that long without attention. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 12:11:40 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28E6E2D02A4 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:11:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ACF22D0325 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:11:20 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbbgj10 with SMTP id gj10so6101629lbb.14 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:14:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=/DGgDoyL2Ld3L691exJJWRchpgF4eiK7qKDBX3MVl4s=; b=Cxqo2omxsl/4ObEVsCbc2hw01TF6FPgjlcGYXIMYeHVa2Xl4K+E0rG2lnf8TKxcE40 KU14SoUi0zgCEpPoAQWvkniYsPIo8Glh2gh1vcncW0Yd4pCRPSFGmMO7I5pq8XMxvq4g 9kw3Zfhw6yRnPwO+kX9dqf276I6GuxncwhNDsUNk0+kv+Wiu6jpE2GcT5z9jvYEOD2+6 fXhQHiexSeVceYR2HJfBJwLc1ocp0/2EdM9qY1iZ3UM8Ll6af9tQzL3RDv2QfRvGBUTn jWRfyQwzfoO48DcURPaQrpTpVtLbNrrj0E/EzLMAwR+gco95v+7qlXqOBUwnroP7pXPu Qa3g== Received: by 10.112.82.33 with SMTP id f1mr2856907lby.35.1348337660402; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:14:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 11:14:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <005a01cd98eb$24729d00$0601a8c0@randall> References: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8F03BDBC-5707-4FF4-BEA4-67256012D0EE@mac.com> <005a01cd98eb$24729d00$0601a8c0@randall> From: Don Hiscock Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:14:00 -0400 Message-ID: To: Randall X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net My mechanics for my 2001 Tacoma and 2008 RX350 swear by the Toyota red coolant for Toyotas -- they think it lasts longer, protects parts better, and don't use the standard brands they'll use anywhere else in a Toyota. A voice of experience -- the guys at Len's Automotive here in STL are the best I've ever had work on a car. The September 2012 issue of TR Action has a full page ad for Evans waterless engine coolants. in the UK link from the ad: http://wwwe.evanscoolants.co.uk/products.html and the US--based home office here: http://www.evanscooling.com/about-us/company-background/ The FAQ on the site is quite informative, eh? Q. What is Evans Waterless Coolant made of? A. Evans Waterless Coolants are patented synthetic non-toxic liquids blended with a non-aqueous proprietary inhibitor package. Jay Leno talks about it here: http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/extras/car-care/waterless-engine-coolant/index. shtml The 0 psi boiling point is 3750 F (1900 C). They're promoted as "lifetime" cooling system fluids. I guess I'm kind of out of touch these days -- I don't know this company's products. Advanced racing cars (like F1) don't use water in their cooling systems as far as I know. And a chemist, this makes perfect sense. Water is an incredibly aggressive solvent -- because we're water-based we don't really think about it -- even though it does have good heat-carrying capacity. Not at all surprising that non-aqueous fluid heat transfer agents would be available. Anyone have any experience? Don 1962 TR3B TSF202L On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Randall wrote: > > Fred Thomas was an advocate of No-Rosion: > > > > http://www.no-rosion.com > > > > I've used it in my TR4A for several years, and it seems to be > > doing the job. > > It does seem to work, if you follow their maintenance schedule. > Personally, > I prefer Zerex G-05 or Prestone "Extended Life" that you only have to mess > with every 5 years instead of every year. > > Hopefully, I've finally built a cooling system in my TR that will go that > long without attention. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 13:03:29 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9277D2D0382 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:03:29 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F6B2D037E for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:03:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2EVm1k00H0EPchoA1K6FRz; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:06:15 +0000 Received: from [10.242.131.249] ([174.229.195.149]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2K101k00L3DscXi8MK13rJ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:01:13 +0000 To: "=?utf-8?B?RG9uIEhpc2NvY2s=?=" ,"Randall" From: "=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=" Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:01:13 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] =?utf-8?q?Best_Anti-Rust_Coolant?= X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Message-Id: <20120922190329.9277D2D0382@autox.team.net> I've used the Evans. It works well, but use the thinner "racing" coolant. The thicker type works well, but runs ten degrees warmer for some reason. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Don Hiscock" To: "Randall" Cc: "Triumphs" Subject: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant Date: Sat, Sep 22, 2012 13:14 My mechanics for my 2001 Tacoma and 2008 RX350 swear by the Toyota red coolant for Toyotas -- they think it lasts longer, protects parts better, and don't use the standard brands they'll use anywhere else in a Toyota. A voice of experience -- the guys at Len's Automotive here in STL are the best I've ever had work on a car. The September 2012 issue of TR Action has a full page ad for Evans waterless engine coolants. in the UK link from the ad: http://wwwe.evanscoolants.co.uk/products.html and the US--based home office here: http://www.evanscooling.com/about-us/company-background/ The FAQ on the site is quite informative, eh? Q. What is Evans Waterless Coolant made of? A. Evans Waterless Coolants are patented synthetic non-toxic liquids blended with a non-aqueous proprietary inhibitor package. Jay Leno talks about it here: http://www.jaylenosgarage.com/extras/car-care/waterless-engine-coolant/index. shtml The 0 psi boiling point is 3750 F (1900 C). They're promoted as "lifetime" cooling system fluids. I guess I'm kind of out of touch these days -- I don't know this company's products. Advanced racing cars (like F1) don't use water in their cooling systems as far as I know. And a chemist, this makes perfect sense. Water is an incredibly aggressive solvent -- because we're water-based we don't really think about it -- even though it does have good heat-carrying capacity. Not at all surprising that non-aqueous fluid heat transfer agents would be available. Anyone have any experience? Don 1962 TR3B TSF202L On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Randall wrote: > > Fred Thomas was an advocate of No-Rosion: > > > > http://www.no-rosion.com > > > > I've used it in my TR4A for several years, and it seems to be > > doing the job. > > It does seem to work, if you follow their maintenance schedule. > Personally, > I prefer Zerex G-05 or Prestone "Extended Life" that you only have to mess > with every 5 years instead of every year. > > Hopefully, I've finally built a cooling system in my TR that will go that > long without attention. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/spook01@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 13:11:41 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E996D2D0375 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:11:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3792C2D03AD for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:10:10 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H+ZZMpki c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=3NK5x1vfzfMA:10 a=z4VvCUfxI2RTC-0Lhr8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 55/B2-15382-8CD0E505; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:13:13 +0000 From: "Randall" Cc: "'Triumphs'" References: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8F03BDBC-5707-4FF4-BEA4-67256012D0EE@mac.com> <005a01cd98eb$24729d00$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:13:54 -0700 Message-ID: <006701cd98f6$68e00120$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: Thread-Index: Ac2Y7hZ00VaH6O7/QNq0jW9QIxSbTwABfkBA Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Q. What is Evans Waterless Coolant made of? > > A. Evans Waterless Coolants are patented synthetic non-toxic > liquids blended with a non-aqueous proprietary inhibitor package. ISTR that, if you poke around on their site a bit, there are instructions on how to upgrade your cooling system to work with their coolant. Higher viscosity means less flow (all other things being equal), and lower heat capacity means less heat transfer for a given flow. The higher boiling point may compensate for that in most cases, but who wants to run around with the temperature gauge on the peg? My only experiment with waterless coolant was many years ago, with a TR that had persistent overheating problems. Running pure ethylene glycol (Evans is supposedly a ethylene/propylene mix), the engine did not boil over (and the temp gauge was already ruined). But the experiment ended in disaster when the true reason for the persistent overheating became apparent. The out of control EGT caused an exhaust valve stem to burn through, and the valve head wound up in the crankcase along with most of the liner. I also believe that running too high a proportion of EG was a contributing factor to my Stag overheating and blowing a head gasket on the way home from VTR 2005. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 13:56:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5036F2D02C1 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:56:51 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B4972D028A for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:52:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbbgj10 with SMTP id gj10so6159324lbb.14 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:55:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=DTBQU+8Q5u0rWugImC+jhRj7YdfYBSvgvzy6RRZe9Qc=; b=qd8nzI2M8ArHvO1B397ghWpDL4CRKu8sSLGk5mY35XIHIx0sokczuMMtiAzGy/TYuc PhRtsXZoGpslT5YmfKd4OLgMLejggP+pXtOEVh4S1t1SmJDROmwkSZ6jDY7U36Mo208a 1bBirlPHr5alLEQ8IFoTPOR9gRGjvLcmjHNAvy/YA/LdAKFVBD3GH3kNtXE89wqZJjuo Jkyqt+WdEwzXpoEysjiGZcjDNWRFxFgD2beH0jmpvsYxm1TOovOHji0z46r0T45esL3t 1C55jbuQd3iZa/nn11UY0IegkiSviPwy3aGZ/sEzPbQx/ZFQNhWfpkfO14O+dK0EIqDY plEA== Received: by 10.112.24.233 with SMTP id x9mr2729947lbf.76.1348343711185; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:55:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:54:50 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <006701cd98f6$68e00120$0601a8c0@randall> References: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8F03BDBC-5707-4FF4-BEA4-67256012D0EE@mac.com> <005a01cd98eb$24729d00$0601a8c0@randall> <006701cd98f6$68e00120$0601a8c0@randall> From: Don Hiscock Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:54:50 -0400 Message-ID: To: Randall X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net "The 0 psi boiling point is 3750 F (1900 C)."... Sorry for the confusion in the [ALT + 0176] degrees symbol not mapping over to the simple text of team.net. It should read 375-degrees F and 190-degrees C, of course. The heat capacity of water is about 4.2 J/cubic cm-K-degree. Propylene glycol is about 2.5, ethylene glycol about 2.4. Densities are less than 5% different, so on a volumetric basis water can carry over 60% greater heat. This is why we normally don't run 100% antifreeze in our systems, and probably one of the reasons our old TRs were originally instructed to run with "clean rain water" unless it was frosty. More antifreeze isn't better. So what's really different from the waterless coolants and running 100% regular antifreeze? Propylene vs ethylene glycol? That doesn't seem like much... Don On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Randall wrote: > > Q. What is Evans Waterless Coolant made of? > > > > A. Evans Waterless Coolants are patented synthetic non-toxic > > liquids blended with a non-aqueous proprietary inhibitor package. > > ISTR that, if you poke around on their site a bit, there are instructions > on > how to upgrade your cooling system to work with their coolant. Higher > viscosity means less flow (all other things being equal), and lower heat > capacity means less heat transfer for a given flow. The higher boiling > point may compensate for that in most cases, but who wants to run around > with the temperature gauge on the peg? > > My only experiment with waterless coolant was many years ago, with a TR > that > had persistent overheating problems. Running pure ethylene glycol (Evans > is > supposedly a ethylene/propylene mix), the engine did not boil over (and the > temp gauge was already ruined). But the experiment ended in disaster when > the true reason for the persistent overheating became apparent. The out of > control EGT caused an exhaust valve stem to burn through, and the valve > head > wound up in the crankcase along with most of the liner. > > I also believe that running too high a proportion of EG was a contributing > factor to my Stag overheating and blowing a head gasket on the way home > from > VTR 2005. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 14:49:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741AC2D0411 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:49:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm28-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.234]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F31B2D03E3 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:49:05 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [72.30.22.92] by nm28.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2012 20:52:07 -0000 Received: from [98.139.44.78] by tm14.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2012 20:52:07 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1015.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Sep 2012 20:52:07 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 690305.69953.bm@omp1015.access.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 64020 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Sep 2012 20:52:07 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1348347127; bh=m9EV0vfm5860GBpICDSZQ2mqWxrh4/ZNka4z+dILTI0=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BpxsB9RPvvlHnP/lavjMSONjwcaexzbCC16t2y7BWoSPSBEbr9BK4+XFfLjX9Feu1T5dtY9+ZlD/akEuuMbK9bxlfNtec76aGcgCODJiqBj1V/aV+tqA6cZqeeli2F0JK4k4aFcZHcd5Fny3JpPV1c3yUWF8TYCQ4k0A5TISp5M= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=EVmzNBbj+pZYV25Ta4IBqJm6ZjozI9G5t4Ix4SwIY49F1kWL8RUtbCWpE6nfaS1Lakt3Cd656hf/8/sYcO+43uVWGsb0NmeTliTvtkBc0xXkW5/XNQy4Gok3wg2OYXjs2XnwVArKrLfhGmGaay6zsnw1fnXX71LpfRntjqxo0HQ=; X-YMail-OSG: EARNuEcVM1n4OTRUDsaAUTwrbBt3uo3sbwK.DJrCrUdoBgw PJEZBVbmXYnxPNVspMby7R0TTKosR.KkSmDEEoTP6vba0Gfg8ZWozRujvbXa pGxNn2CpVtvOBDXKLiuMlQ6iLlywVUAKtpEAMfQjZbTiCZyl9SJxJHJ0bSYl CoJ3ciSukDQwarWpL5Nh52HdU6EBuc0nnrkmUgT50skOVfnpvzVXrLFiBai1 URUp.rEtonLxhMCJ9KIt5ygjPgg1bSpetvxAK1YLVG4ckIfzPJunaURdhu0O S7JwxmsoSWVt6CmMoQnInJiVZHZvl7UibkbJUfbtlYNUF1Xg0droyy_s2pTH u02OPOPzxaY1_oUWK7wHFz3x3_H9S0HIyyokbIyQlGMBRyivbhpffSPlGpQU 0oZqVkK3oi1Q1pRm0uXThNcCVug8qDiSd__LUSkXfjtWQHwqLsvIuCtpezca RxvKKMWicsdn5_Zi_GsmZ4MD1TExg6900QzsmCSEzq6HTPvp2ez3l6pJpge7 iDjLH8ADfXygphv5v7OwBvHyB0kF_.oR_m2t0rWWMa.Y89FTs Received: from [107.195.29.13] by web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:52:07 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1348347127.61804.YahooMailNeo@web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 13:52:07 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Web Searching X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: William Brewer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Last year I was using a website called jaxed.com to search all craiglists simultaneously looking for various things, ususally related to TR's, Morgans and Lotus Elan +2's and Elises. Craigslist sued Jaxed and got them to not use craigslist in their searches. I quit using them. Dang! It worked good. I've tried other services including searchtempest, allofcraigs and statewidelist. None of them work very well compared to Jaxed. Does anyone else have a good way to search Craigslist for car stuff? The jaxed website explains their lawsuit: http://www.jaxed.com/cgi-bin/home.cgi Jaxed was a good website. If you wanted to bring up most anything it showed you that only. Clear and simple. Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 15:08:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A68A82D03F3 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:08:25 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.17]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D81C12D03E3 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:08:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.20]) by qmta10.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2M701k0040SCNGk5AMBGNV; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:11:16 +0000 Received: from sz0059.wc.mail.comcast.net ([68.87.26.137]) by omta09.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2MBX1k00o2xV5no3VMBX6n; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:11:32 +0000 Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:11:12 +0000 (UTC) From: terryrs@comcast.net To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-ID: <115235021.404026.1348348272613.JavaMail.root@sz0059a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [::ffff:75.67.82.24] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - [unknown] (Win)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Seems to be a lot of conversation here about alternative coolants. I don't know. I've used Prestone 50/50 for years, stripped down engines with a hundred thousand miles on them, and have seen no sign of corrosion. Not sure but that this is all really much ado about nothing. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 15:45:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E3A12D0320 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:45:03 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31802D03C7 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:40:25 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=dmericas@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Hsb06jvS c=1 sm=0 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=EMMHrDXEAvMA:10 a=9UWt-BEG2_qvRIGA73gA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=dN3KnEhvixEA:10 a=UncsSwx/9geXWuI8Ta3VWA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.128.132.93] ([10.128.132.93:58333] helo=hrndva-web02-z01) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 80/55-01602-FF03E505; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:43:27 +0000 Message-ID: <20120922214327.YEC5L.226739.root@hrndva-web02-z01> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:43:27 +0000 From: To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: [TR] TR4 parts needed X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to some incredible stupidity, I need two parts for my TR4 that appear to be unobtainable through the regular channels. I'm hoping the list can help me connect with a source. 1) Frame bracket that protects the bottom of the radiator. This bolts between the forward ends of the two main frame rails. 2) Yellow 7-blade fan (or a fan that has the same bolt pattern and will fit this application). I know I can convert to an electric, but I'm happy with a plastic mechanical fan if I can find one. Contact me directly at dmericas@austin.rr.com if you have either of these and would be interested in selling them. Thanks. Dean Mericas 1965 TR4 Austin, TX ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 19:24:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 221822D039B for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:24:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EAAF2D0390 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:24:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H+ZZMpki c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=2zBz20eOvzEA:10 a=-hSSKAJSsBq00h6sImMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55004] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id C1/46-15382-E756E505; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 01:27:27 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'William Brewer'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <1348347127.61804.YahooMailNeo@web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:28:09 -0700 Message-ID: <00e901cd992a$b0cccb60$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <1348347127.61804.YahooMailNeo@web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: Ac2ZBD09Md88rUARRqOWTzSvdFtgjgAJeS6A Subject: Re: [TR] Web Searching X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Does anyone > else have a good > way to search Craigslist for car stuff? Bit of a pain to set up, but I use Google Reader. It will aggregate from any RSS source, including Craigslist and eBay. Basically, you set up the search you want for each Craigslist site, then copy the RSS link into Google Reader. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 19:44:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D9F82D0426 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:44:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15C3E2D02D6 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:44:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=64C/LzBBforKVySGcfpcRA==:17 a=T3xOmAtW2PYA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=3NK5x1vfzfMA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=cV04T-U07RA9uwgkrfEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=Q94xJtFWm3wA:10 a=64C/LzBBforKVySGcfpcRA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.89.87.109 Received: from [76.89.87.109] ([76.89.87.109:58796] helo=JohnnieD) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id AA/1B-28917-73A6E505; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 01:47:35 +0000 From: "John & Pat Donnelly" To: "'Triumphs'" References: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8F03BDBC-5707-4FF4-BEA4-67256012D0EE@mac.com> <005a01cd98eb$24729d00$0601a8c0@randall> <006701cd98f6$68e00120$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:47:35 -0700 Message-ID: <000301cd992d$67e48520$37ad8f60$@rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ac2Y/OhKA5TtDKEwRoi2e+oV2Aaw7gALP+/Q Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Just so I understand this correctly, having coolent in the water allows the water in the cooling system to run more efficiently. So if I have proper 50/50 mix then when the gauge shows an increased temp the car is really being stressed. I run straight water with no problems. Johnnie '67 tr4a > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs- > > "The 0 psi boiling point is 3750 F (1900 C)."... Sorry for the > confusion in > the [ALT + 0176] degrees symbol not mapping over to the simple text of > team.net. It should read 375-degrees F and 190-degrees C, of course. > > The heat capacity of water is about 4.2 J/cubic cm-K-degree. Propylene > glycol is about 2.5, ethylene glycol about 2.4. Densities are less > than 5% > different, so on a volumetric basis water can carry over 60% greater > heat. > This is why we normally don't run 100% antifreeze in our systems, and > probably one of the reasons our old TRs were originally instructed to > run > with "clean rain water" unless it was frosty. More antifreeze isn't > better. > > So what's really different from the waterless coolants and running 100% > regular antifreeze? Propylene vs ethylene glycol? That doesn't seem > like > much... > > Don ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 19:54:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39402D0395 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:54:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtpauth13.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpauth13.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [64.202.165.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A2FF2D02FD for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:54:36 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 12602 invoked from network); 23 Sep 2012 01:57:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (76.184.166.234) by smtpauth13.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (64.202.165.37) with ESMTP; 23 Sep 2012 01:57:38 -0000 Message-ID: <30BA2E21765643B2B44D960AF1E065FF@Spitfire> From: "Dave" To: "'Triumphs'" References: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><8F03BDBC-5707-4FF4-BEA4-67256012D0EE@mac.com><005a01cd98eb$24729d00$0601a8c0@randall><006701cd98f6$68e00120$0601a8c0@randall> <000301cd992d$67e48520$37ad8f60$@rr.com> In-Reply-To: <000301cd992d$67e48520$37ad8f60$@rr.com> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:56:20 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia An antifreeze is a chemical additive which lowers the freezing point of a water-based liquid. An antifreeze mixture is used to achieve freezing-point depression for cold environments and also achieves boiling-point elevation ("anti-boil") to allow higher coolant temperature. Freezing and boiling points are colligative properties of a solution, which depend on the concentration of the dissolved substance. Because water has good properties as a coolant, antifreeze is used in internal combustion engines and other heat transfer applications, such as HVAC chillers and solar water heaters. The purpose of antifreeze is to prevent a rigid enclosure from undergoing catastrophic deformation due to expansion when water turns to ice. Commercially, either the additive or the mixture may be referred to as antifreeze. Careful selection of an antifreeze can enable a wide temperature range in which the mixture remains in the liquid phase, which is critical to efficient heat transfer and the proper functioning of heat exchangers. from what I understand, 50/50 is not the ideal mixture. more like 2/3 water 1/3 antifreeze is better. is there a chemist on the list who can explain what effect, if any, antifreeze has on the boiling point? -----Original Message----- From: John & Pat Donnelly Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 8:47 PM To: 'Triumphs' Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant Just so I understand this correctly, having coolent in the water allows the water in the cooling system to run more efficiently. So if I have proper 50/50 mix then when the gauge shows an increased temp the car is really being stressed. I run straight water with no problems. Johnnie '67 tr4a ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 20:08:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FB3F2D0408 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:08:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D5C82D035E for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:07:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=3NK5x1vfzfMA:10 a=8pif782wAAAA:8 a=6TAGF0_tEBICAyw3HU8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 68/F8-28917-18F6E505; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 02:10:10 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Dave'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><8F03BDBC-5707-4FF4-BEA4-67256012D0EE@mac.com><005a01cd98eb$24729d00$0601a8c0@randall><006701cd98f6$68e00120$0601a8c0@randall><000301cd992d$67e48520$37ad8f60$@rr.com> <30BA2E21765643B2B44D960AF1E065FF@Spitfire> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:10:52 -0700 Message-ID: <00f001cd9930$a891a690$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <30BA2E21765643B2B44D960AF1E065FF@Spitfire> Thread-Index: Ac2ZLt5BSxXtyUa3R3axXhsY9ntzoAAAPslA Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > is there a chemist on the list who can explain what effect, if any, > antifreeze has on the boiling point? I'm not a chemist, but adding antifreeze does raise the boiling point. For commonly used concentrations, it's only by 10 or 15 degrees F, but it does raise it some. There is a chart at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylene_glycol Whether that is enough to compensate for its otherwise poor effect on cooling, I don't know. In my limited tests though, it would seem not. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 22 20:40:21 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9312A2D0411 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:40:21 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99AA72D038B for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:40:14 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbbgj10 with SMTP id gj10so6350373lbb.14 for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:43:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=GRLWP2SHppNW7S9l1Pz/HGinHEY25M92GR98dB44tGc=; b=HYYfiuxpWtOkWqEaSq2rVC6jgE4gA4DdBpmwG2FZnBVr0xg1q7+eJKoUoqv0fh/MSx GUhNhoaamxvlYeUG1ZShF5hTF6TbLUMkVNsVB3vYrFGISWZrvC989eYMhegV0RTTKQ4k 8/a6qWgIY0BKR98hTo+nBrshhR2vdJ914zCc6IZPVbv3/2vcBIVvgefQ7a70J2lbrBN/ mhKCMcJdmUsjR7Lscb8qPqeH49OtJtLBbTfOXEujjdFZUCfMfGNVX7acUFyWHCa5OjLE iRN61X9gU8BPY5tMftUF9YfE3HdOXwbKQ5lpD/xwKK54aKgVCgywGml12sNxTeV3VFsF 56/g== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.9.68 with SMTP id x4mr3115137lba.46.1348368195527; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 19:43:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <00f001cd9930$a891a690$0601a8c0@randall> References: <1348327549.79204.YahooMailNeo@web180905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <8F03BDBC-5707-4FF4-BEA4-67256012D0EE@mac.com> <005a01cd98eb$24729d00$0601a8c0@randall> <006701cd98f6$68e00120$0601a8c0@randall> <000301cd992d$67e48520$37ad8f60$@rr.com> <30BA2E21765643B2B44D960AF1E065FF@Spitfire> <00f001cd9930$a891a690$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:43:15 -0500 Message-ID: From: Don Hiscock To: Randall Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] Best Anti-Rust Coolant X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mixing some other sort of molecule with water raises its boiling point and depresses its freezing point. Part of a set of properties called "colligative properties" of materials. Antifreeze has a real function -- irrespective of the heat capacity advantages of water (and it makes an excellent heat transfer fluid), ya got that pesky freezing point to deal with. The ratio of ethylene glycol (or other material -- nuthin' magic about glycol) to water determines the freezing point depression. Plenty of websites show freezing point as a function of blend ratio -- your jug of ethylene glycol should as well. Adding more ethylene glycol than needed for the temperatures expected reduces heat capacity of the fluid unnessarily and wastes ethylene glycol. Anti-boilover properties come along for the ride, but if you're adding something to raise the boiling point of water in a TR you have bigger issues. Don PS: My mom smiled for years at the memory of my dad checking a boiling over radiator before I was born by holding a match in the dark to the filler neck. Whoosh! The alcohol vapors of the pre-ethylene glycol antifreeze flashed and burned off his eyebrows. - Show quoted text - On 9/22/12, Randall wrote: >> is there a chemist on the list who can explain what effect, if any, >> antifreeze has on the boiling point? > > I'm not a chemist, but adding antifreeze does raise the boiling point. For > commonly used concentrations, it's only by 10 or 15 degrees F, but it does > raise it some. There is a chart at > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethylene_glycol > > Whether that is enough to compensate for its otherwise poor effect on > cooling, I don't know. In my limited tests though, it would seem not. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 23 05:32:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEB382D0322 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 05:32:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D0192D0322 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 05:32:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.60]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2bXt1k0011HpZEsA1bbCie; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:35:12 +0000 Received: from sz0119.ev.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.40.137]) by omta14.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 2bbC1k0082xZMJ48abbC3W; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:35:12 +0000 Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:35:12 +0000 (UTC) From: pethier@comcast.net To: "Scott T." Message-ID: <1742839741.339615.1348400112283.JavaMail.root@sz0119a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1348370184.72063.YahooMailNeo@web122304.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-IP: [69.180.154.189] X-Mailer: Zimbra 6.0.13_GA_2944 (ZimbraWebClient - SAF3 (Mac)/6.0.13_GA_2944) Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, vtr@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] [VTR] VTR autocross results archives X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Phil Ethier West Side Saint Paul Minnesota USA 1973 Triumph Stag LE22439UBW "uncle jack", Sapphire Blue 2004 Suburban 8.1, Sport Red, the only automatic of the bunch 2005 Lotus Elise, Bordeaux Red Pearl 2007 Saturn Ion 3 2.4, Berry Red pethier@comcast.net http://www.flickr.com/photos/pethier http://www.triumphtransamerica.org.uk http://www.mnautox.com ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott T." > To: "Joe Curry" , triumphs@autox.team.net, vtr@autox.team.net > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:16:24 PM > Subject: Re: [VTR] VTR autocross results archives > I know who won the class that included modified TR6's at Breckenridge. > > :-) 2001 or 2011? > ________________________________ > From: Joe Curry > To: > triumphs@autox.team.net; vtr@autox.team.net > Sent: Saturday, September 22, > 2012 1:42 PM > Subject: [VTR] VTR autocross results archives > > Does anyone know > if there is an archive of the results of VTR autocrosses > through the years? I > am particularly interested in the 2001 held in > Breckinridge, CO. > > > > Thanks, > Joe > _______________________________________________ > > This list supported in > part by the Vintage Triumph Register > http://www.vtr.org > > Vtr@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/vtr/sdtilton@yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > > This list supported in part by the Vintage Triumph Register > http://www.vtr.org > > Vtr@autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/vtr/pethier@comcast.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 23 06:35:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F43C2D065C for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 06:35:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ob0-f169.google.com (mail-ob0-f169.google.com [209.85.214.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 357772D0527 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 06:35:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: by obcva7 with SMTP id va7so1409690obc.14 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 05:38:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:x-mailer:thread-index :content-language; bh=U10GCTBwtt0mcxlKhO3tyzOvlrKFANUlEmfvebubAbk=; b=ea1mPd1d8lqBLfzb0PoySp04fxTBZkrguZ82PwH30fKVHkI2nWaTbeAVfIHWsv8pBq R6ELMIrU0kqJw/VQb8GkxSQJQUZFZxJUwFRnxAPR7dPnE+q1vK2V1hJQK79Z+inGXpNQ OGqD6ikf8kdDctZkRjDfCwG9Qye9syGyQH8EGciks4zoStiaXp4ZxHjUNjuH6f8Z4TY5 ggiw5t6BCD2/VdWPCVyeCGRC6cljW82qIONiLMHdlQALL1uWQizDD9gT8Lye+q+poAbu kpKVVFiMUIxHZT/GLf6rSp/kGOH8a/589wX6UB6wcHO+nwG1TbZH6ZSSwnuwrpugde9v 8y6w== Received: by 10.182.121.38 with SMTP id lh6mr7667096obb.16.1348403910317; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 05:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from JamesHenningsen (ip70-187-90-37.ga.at.cox.net. [70.187.90.37]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id k7sm1909776oek.6.2012.09.23.05.38.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 23 Sep 2012 05:38:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "James Henningsen" To: "'Randall'" , "'William Brewer'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <1348347127.61804.YahooMailNeo@web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <00e901cd992a$b0cccb60$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <00e901cd992a$b0cccb60$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 08:38:27 -0400 Message-ID: <00a801cd9988$554946c0$ffdbd440$@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQGqgKD3o8SFRyN4KVRF1eVQ8yKCjAEMTG1El9WrdtA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] Web Searching X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I like www.adhuntr.com to search for triumph stuff across the country on craigslist. You can also use www.craigslist.thingweb.com. Happy hunting! I have found some great stuff this way. Jim Henningsen Ocala FL 62 TR4 75 TR6 -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Randall Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 9:28 PM To: 'William Brewer'; 'Triumphs' Subject: Re: [TR] Web Searching > Does anyone > else have a good > way to search Craigslist for car stuff? Bit of a pain to set up, but I use Google Reader. It will aggregate from any RSS source, including Craigslist and eBay. Basically, you set up the search you want for each Craigslist site, then copy the RSS link into Google Reader. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 23 12:12:54 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 761EE2D0695 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:12:54 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7093B2C0AB7; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:11:30 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACFB52E020; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:17:51 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <505F5224.50101@bradakis.com> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 12:17:08 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net, vtr@autox.team.net References: <1742839741.339615.1348400112283.JavaMail.root@sz0119a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <1742839741.339615.1348400112283.JavaMail.root@sz0119a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Subject: Re: [TR] [VTR] VTR autocross results archives X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Some things I remember about the 2001 event: Pugs had the best time for quite a while, in a stock Spitfire on skinny street tires. We ended up using a small, dirty lot instead of the big lot at the high school down the road, shucks. It was my first event with the 8" rims on Killer. The wheels stuck out about two inches further than the wheels I had been running, and I wasn't used to them yet. I clipped lots of cones due to that extra width. I let Tom Blanchard, the fellow running the event, take Killer out on course. About the time I remember that I hadn't turned on the fuel pump he sputtered to a stop in the middle of the course. Oops. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 23 16:29:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4253F2D080D for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:29:57 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A23D72D06AF for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:29:50 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=dmericas@austin.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=C49rOHz+ c=1 sm=0 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=Dh1pmz3LQg8A:10 a=iub2ElmgtZKZnpTBYhkA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=UncsSwx/9geXWuI8Ta3VWA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.128.132.93] ([10.128.132.93:44381] helo=hrndva-web02-z01) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 06/DA-01227-51E8F505; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 22:32:53 +0000 Message-ID: <20120923223253.S67UN.231290.root@hrndva-web02-z01> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 17:32:53 -0500 From: To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 parts needed X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to all who responded to my plea. I got both parts in short order. This group is awesome. Much appreciated. Dean 1965 TR4 Austin, TX ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 23 16:52:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03A912D081A for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:52:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp3.execulink.net (smtp3.execulink.net [69.63.44.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323F02D02C4; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 16:49:55 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-778.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([216.59.243.10] helo=[192.168.4.104]) by smtp3.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TFv2o-0005nP-4X; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 18:52:58 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) From: Keith Stewart In-Reply-To: <505F5224.50101@bradakis.com> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 18:52:56 -0400 Message-Id: References: <1742839741.339615.1348400112283.JavaMail.root@sz0119a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> <505F5224.50101@bradakis.com> To: Mark J Bradakis X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, vtr@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] VTR autocross results archives X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 2012-09-23, at 2:17 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > I let Tom Blanchard, the fellow running the event, take Killer out on course. About > the time I remember that I hadn't turned on the fuel pump he sputtered to a stop in > the middle of the course. Oops. > > mjb. Geez, how can we ever trust you again :-) Keith R. Stewart 75 Camden Road London, Ontario N5X 2K2 Home: (519) 660-1916 E-Mail: keithstewart@execulink.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 23 19:19:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC152D0852 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 19:19:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa08-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa08-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.106]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A2F72D082D for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 19:19:17 -0600 (MDT) Received: (qmail 14818 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2012 01:22:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (70.194.3.250) by p3plsmtpa08-05.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (173.201.193.106) with ESMTP; 24 Sep 2012 01:22:19 -0000 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 21:22:17 -0400 Message-ID: <004401cd99f3$0b433930$21c9ab90$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: Ac2Z8g+m17LWdwg0Q7SYQB34gRKa4Q== Content-Language: en-us X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] steering wheel X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net List: I am trying to restore a small-mouth on a budget - it's going to be interesting to see what a nice frame-off is going to end up costing. No fast-road car this time - just a standard TR3 with overdrive. I am doing everything but chroming, upholstery, machining and final paint. Oh - and I got Nisonger to restore the gauges. But I digress: the steering wheel 's bakelite is cracked. Anyone have any suggestions as to who could restore this for me? Really appreciate any help. Andrew Uprichard 1962 TR3B - few upgrades 1968 TR250- fast road 1957 small-mouth. Getting there ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 23 20:48:14 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA802D083C for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 20:48:14 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm37-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm37-vm5.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.229.133]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 01CFF2D032D for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 20:48:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.178] by nm37.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2012 02:51:09 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.170] by tm13.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2012 02:51:09 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1026.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2012 02:51:09 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 212144.14102.bm@omp1026.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 11474 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Sep 2012 02:51:09 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348455069; bh=NPzEwZEU8pb3LOuOtfQ/mPdbkAlfgiSEfRmM4yaY718=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ylYwrg4Unx2VKx4QtOK3Z7U2idqA6S+DQ71uI4SrFwnZNaE5RQMaZ/LMU+7pyBjza2re4V7oO4GCL5SnfcxsRnuGXG4VXU7cH9VEybTesguwQJDCH1XDN8mrSK8e4VzBfreI7Zt663LR8mdNJtsA9xpXKaKutPcy2Au91Ghcu5s= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=LTE/BOLaxRmDHHIcDkBbYn2/D19LN8f8YPRGXoXvnjoKfP+y/tuIyznjOX00jkccQdIBGiY5BQhiC/8ak2/MxIeMi2HnzFKD+RvmtXI9m2HZ+Wko0TXWsv3P7f4tF3pyXeg3S5t5zC+7D4JGVptOkjrXrYzmAg9D5E2tzPqmfCY=; X-YMail-OSG: OBfGy.oVM1l3Jqahns2dAhje0bqHb8hkXNBapS8jFiKnLcz mg_8SWqJ2DNsXe2o19kBjZgwS0ysDdzuDGHaLu2yPRY27mTFWa0bkFHtD7P9 oUk6FOY1uNrbRcGk7tS2e69a.kKgm8VN76l3C4kjtesTw9DUELLWtYE4AZH6 iL.BFgVkq.mBbLC_qoGbC.MBl7UIfMGz9NdteRY_fTIYw1vc9oQpaZCboaAZ QQ7tHk7PPuNCh5T9mcr3unlYYujG7UBOAh_FTfVyL.5XhmD39qgA2nvH5Qfa DXwoOvM3qo6ppuMEkzWqoO8HEwptFKjSWI3nCEVgPtQzh9UBKhWthD6f0KnW MTDpQjMQUoCQ8PBIdj2Ryg0kogUHDrWk_XIyOSiWPNIBcXabQ0FIG4IQh6Vp kt05kC21YtdKYZrUlDFg8OjxTnEHwfhJ2FdHTmeGfZ0bqQEIOHFHtQxROMJH IY0.Ts7HD59ej7uLGUGNc Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 19:51:08 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.416 Message-ID: <1348455068.11401.YahooMailNeo@web120605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 19:51:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] steering wheel X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Nafziger List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On my tr-3 cracked steering wheel, I simply washed it up good with solvent and then used a stick of epoxy to fill in the cracks. This required several applications until I got the cracks filled "proud" of the surface so I could sand them down even with the surface. Keep filling and sanding untill the surface is completely smooth. Then several good coats of paint did it. I'm very happy with the result. gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 23 21:35:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925AC2D083D for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 21:35:44 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm33-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm33-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.239.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 665992D0817 for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 21:35:38 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.144] by nm33.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2012 03:38:41 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.108] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2012 03:38:41 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1013.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 24 Sep 2012 03:38:41 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 38991.32820.bm@omp1013.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 86980 invoked from network); 24 Sep 2012 03:38:41 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=uYqnR1kRzvmzwNTNd7XBHzY8cG4/d2cj/sSp12FfrV21j8dxsZgQBCoJTo1uvWTbjVszTnQDnt3KJBHumuny930ZkCNE26WuZE2zQrCKBwPIDiCljiW9ONFukUJkE3affULxdsB3a7Q+AKFU3/f9xLWkFXWqlPXEOGC+o3rpbUU= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1348457920; bh=TwY42OOq2fb9vm3wlkRea0lI+V5uNRsDk6gpYgBnP9g=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=5e2BdouDEpwiab9D3Gh8TpqsZzqhnbYvu34KtSGdjA22X6ESDS3YHrOtvAUdL4Xz3CGGyNYqXGjwu50SSYpZm/9YAU16Fh+mm+u9G5j11ee44lTSH2v7M5709vFk8ifPW7UI05OMPSsmPk0N8PDi/K8t01kLLZ4nFWkWo1D8vTI= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: Ts64s.QVM1lEvYKQbyPwYhmlOZ5EIDTLuB.tHMa6skqKj.h MNWHoO_y_Da5_e84HdPymt6NyOCzp_geHSJkUSl7Cg5e2iDQptUuT1DamQIr k.v95OEXy0IKZFZrRrulreRERhuieMkxjIY3WWIRFBBiUEJJwFxPmp8Lwj5O WMuH6JqdBncZhLyeRHym4XtL1MxN4YaO5z_PhWVO41WalscwClt5ASSBqYpL Aw7Fy_W3voU5oNPGyR5GwovTVkJ1Rbiogz5E4Fvkxz_.dYVA4V3qhVb11TRF fnDGdGgpZIz1gT5nm.yamQPTPK4An1wPTSfCLwmk9F_xZFLVqS0BD2BykkfP eJVJ7vC8JSV3fA77laIEvoIp7hBOt1d0N7eHF0zWRzbrX3jz_onu42TuuVP5 EI9RaP0AKP1wO9TCLmplPSb7lKMUow5AtR30RfFUTovqohVGNeQsfmIZxMa2 UCLtvLRyC8fs27g7t1LzO_11WamSJZUu_lfT7hjumsp5oG1x2 X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp111.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Sep 2012 20:38:40 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Gary Nafziger'" , References: <1348455068.11401.YahooMailNeo@web120605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 22:38:32 -0500 Message-ID: <5D702C1D18E64D68BD7DAC8F5F77126E@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <1348455068.11401.YahooMailNeo@web120605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: Ac2Z/5Kqjrh5e0ErSEawrjvYCFkMmgABlpug Subject: Re: [TR] steering wheel X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net What type of paint did you use? I was thinking of JB Weld to fill the cracks in my wheel. Bill -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary Nafziger Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 9:51 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] steering wheel On my tr-3 cracked steering wheel, I simply washed it up good with solvent and then used a stick of epoxy to fill in the cracks. This required several applications until I got the cracks filled "proud" of the surface so I could sand them down even with the surface. Keep filling and sanding untill the surface is completely smooth. Then several good coats of paint did it. I'm very happy with the result. gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 23 22:33:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2332E2D083B for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 22:33:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33B7A2D080F for ; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 22:33:40 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=Hsb06jvS c=1 sm=0 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:17 a=0cZmuKrZTK8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=2zBz20eOvzEA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=HZJGGiqLAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=nk6YQiyYAAAA:8 a=pEUdX81ZAAAA:8 a=EefWS7O1SMsB3NKXU1kA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=HeoGohOdMD0A:10 a=B3cZvtR7CnT5WnMNErIZnA==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.84.49.244 Received: from [76.84.49.244] ([76.84.49.244:50397] helo=GregPC) by hrndva-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id CF/1F-01602-B53EF505; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 04:36:43 +0000 Message-ID: <5627FCDF090B4339A713752DE3ECD0DF@GregPC> From: "Greg Lemon" To: "James Henningsen" , "'Randall'" , "'William Brewer'" , "'Triumphs'" References: <1348347127.61804.YahooMailNeo@web180903.mail.ne1.yahoo.com><00e901cd992a$b0cccb60$0601a8c0@randall> <00a801cd9988$554946c0$ffdbd440$@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <00a801cd9988$554946c0$ffdbd440$@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2012 23:36:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 Subject: Re: [TR] Web Searching X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Jaxed was great, it got sued or threatened with a suit from Craigslist, who as I understand it is owned by E-bay (known to some as "evilbay"), ebay saw the jaxed site as direct competition for E-bay, or at least that is the logical conjecture. Will have to check out the alternatives mentioned. Greg Lemon ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Henningsen" To: "'Randall'" ; "'William Brewer'" ; "'Triumphs'" Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [TR] Web Searching >I like www.adhuntr.com to search for triumph stuff across the country on > craigslist. You can also use www.craigslist.thingweb.com. Happy hunting! > I > have found some great stuff this way. > > Jim Henningsen > Ocala FL > 62 TR4 > 75 TR6 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Randall > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 9:28 PM > To: 'William Brewer'; 'Triumphs' > Subject: Re: [TR] Web Searching > >> Does anyone >> else have a good >> way to search Craigslist for car stuff? > > Bit of a pain to set up, but I use Google Reader. It will aggregate from > any RSS source, including Craigslist and eBay. > > Basically, you set up the search you want for each Craigslist site, then > copy the RSS link into Google Reader. > > -- Randall > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/trguy75@gmail.com > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/glemon@neb.rr.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 24 04:16:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095292D02C2 for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 04:16:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.197]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E551B2D07ED for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 04:12:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ool-18b8ba55.dyn.optonline.net [24.184.186.85]) by mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MAU00HX9N604G60@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:15:36 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:14:24 -0400 From: George Richardson In-reply-to: <004401cd99f3$0b433930$21c9ab90$@uprichard.net> To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <50603280.6000306@key-men.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120923-1, 09/23/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: <004401cd99f3$0b433930$21c9ab90$@uprichard.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 Subject: Re: [TR] steering wheel X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Eastwood sells a steering wheel restoration kit: http://www.eastwood.com/complete-steering-wheel-restoration-kit-26003.html I used this myself on the adjustable steering wheel of my '57 TR3. It was great. It comes with instructions, epoxy, paint prep, and adhesion promoter. All you'll need is black paint. George Richardson Key Men - Keys for Classics www.key-men.com On 9/23/2012 9:22 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > List: > > > > I am trying to restore a small-mouth on a budget - it's going to be > interesting to see what a nice frame-off is going to end up costing. No > fast-road car this time - just a standard TR3 with overdrive. I am doing > everything but chroming, upholstery, machining and final paint. Oh - and I > got Nisonger to restore the gauges. > > > > But I digress: the steering wheel 's bakelite is cracked. Anyone have any > suggestions as to who could restore this for me? > > > > Really appreciate any help. > > > > Andrew Uprichard > > 1962 TR3B - few upgrades > > 1968 TR250- fast road > > 1957 small-mouth. Getting there > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/gpr@key-men.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 24 06:52:03 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5BF2D06DA for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:52:02 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from p3plsmtpa09-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net (p3plsmtpa09-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net [173.201.193.232]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBDE32D0859 for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:50:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: from Home ([70.194.18.3]) by p3plsmtpa09-03.prod.phx3.secureserver.net with id 30tB1k00203yiWW010tCi5; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 05:53:13 -0700 From: "Andrew Uprichard" To: "'George Richardson'" , References: <004401cd99f3$0b433930$21c9ab90$@uprichard.net> <50603280.6000306@key-men.com> In-Reply-To: <50603280.6000306@key-men.com> Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 08:53:13 -0400 Message-ID: <005a01cd9a53$8fb74c50$af25e4f0$@uprichard.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQIzkEFm6Sqs5SeM0mY4veocva8UWwIRJ9b/lrz86MA= Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [TR] steering wheel X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thank you to all who replied. I actually have a couple of wheels, so I think I'll take a shot at one myself and if I screw up, I'll take one of you up on your (several) recommendations for the other. Andrew. -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of George Richardson Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 6:14 AM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] steering wheel Eastwood sells a steering wheel restoration kit: http://www.eastwood.com/complete-steering-wheel-restoration-kit-26003.html I used this myself on the adjustable steering wheel of my '57 TR3. It was great. It comes with instructions, epoxy, paint prep, and adhesion promoter. All you'll need is black paint. George Richardson Key Men - Keys for Classics www.key-men.com On 9/23/2012 9:22 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > List: > > > > I am trying to restore a small-mouth on a budget - it's going to be > interesting to see what a nice frame-off is going to end up costing. No > fast-road car this time - just a standard TR3 with overdrive. I am doing > everything but chroming, upholstery, machining and final paint. Oh - > and I got Nisonger to restore the gauges. > > > > But I digress: the steering wheel 's bakelite is cracked. Anyone > have any suggestions as to who could restore this for me? > > > > Really appreciate any help. > > > > Andrew Uprichard > > 1962 TR3B - few upgrades > > 1968 TR250- fast road > > 1957 small-mouth. Getting there > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/gpr@key-men.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 24 07:21:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD4D2D0865 for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 07:21:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E14392D0816 for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 07:20:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lbok6 with SMTP id k6so14954lbo.14 for ; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:23:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=1vCh79YRaS8gWDD4iO/pGTjBE3dM+XJmFwyX7kI1qns=; b=TrMVTJDmBiMRr1Jbg2N5wDmLy/rY9nFxsCzfOzVoU9ivjUZMRfUgJ1Fo1YYH2FoIrm uwTCiHYhKwTA6/s21m4IxGGvUgaj6PQn0JKwGRMartIl5yHzR+Y38i8h1dOnaTo9bXV+ e+Q3m7KRIgR1O713dE9QnTZ61tEGscefpRnDBsdL+MQM/BGqz/MX6mfCqR1NpLQBisrA X8+WTyNyfQkLM7oM6er5+zwfishHsa2AM1xF56m/0GEgGPP5gxpR0o9V3tlbm152YMSj r5sGy8JfyrM+UgnhtzQCuZbKSv83s602xM2kW7CkpR3w2I0cXUpOs6emk3sX99MkmUc2 fhFA== Received: by 10.112.9.68 with SMTP id x4mr4399146lba.46.1348492673243; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:17:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:17:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <005a01cd9a53$8fb74c50$af25e4f0$@uprichard.net> References: <004401cd99f3$0b433930$21c9ab90$@uprichard.net> <50603280.6000306@key-men.com> <005a01cd9a53$8fb74c50$af25e4f0$@uprichard.net> From: Don Hiscock Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 09:17:32 -0400 Message-ID: To: Andrew Uprichard X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] steering wheel X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Eastwood also offers a POR-15 steering wheel kit (on sale for $72, good for several wheels they say). This kit seems to be disappearing from the POR-15 website, so maybe being discontinued POR-15 products I've used in the past have worked exactly as advertised. http://www.eastwood.com/por-15-steering-wheel-repair-kit.html?srccode=ga220010&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=zzproduct_ads&adtype=pla&kw=&gclid=COz52MqizrICFcxcMgodlDIAPg Don 1962 TR3B TSF202L On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 8:53 AM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > Thank you to all who replied. I actually have a couple of wheels, so I > think I'll take a shot at one myself and if I screw up, I'll take one of > you > up on your (several) recommendations for the other. > > Andrew. > > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of George Richardson > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 6:14 AM > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [TR] steering wheel > > Eastwood sells a steering wheel restoration kit: > > http://www.eastwood.com/complete-steering-wheel-restoration-kit-26003.html > > I used this myself on the adjustable steering wheel of my '57 TR3. It was > great. It comes with instructions, epoxy, paint prep, and adhesion > promoter. > All you'll need is black paint. > > George Richardson > Key Men - Keys for Classics > www.key-men.com > > On 9/23/2012 9:22 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote: > > List: > > > > > > > > I am trying to restore a small-mouth on a budget - it's going to be > > interesting to see what a nice frame-off is going to end up costing. No > > fast-road car this time - just a standard TR3 with overdrive. I am > doing > > everything but chroming, upholstery, machining and final paint. Oh - > > and I got Nisonger to restore the gauges. > > > > > > > > But I digress: the steering wheel 's bakelite is cracked. Anyone > > have any suggestions as to who could restore this for me? > > > > > > > > Really appreciate any help. > > > > > > > > Andrew Uprichard > > > > 1962 TR3B - few upgrades > > > > 1968 TR250- fast road > > > > 1957 small-mouth. Getting there > > > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/gpr@key-men.com > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/auprichard@uprichard.net > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/don.hiscock@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Mon Sep 24 12:23:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE57A2D086B for ; 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On my TR4 I opened up the cracks a little and used Bondo. Then primer and paint spray cans (Duplicolor, etc.) On Sep 24, 2012, at 2:00 PM, triumphs-request@autox.team.net wrote: > On my tr-3 cracked steering wheel, I simply washed it up good with > solvent and > then used a stick of epoxy to fill in the cracks. This required > several > applications until I got the cracks filled "proud" of the surface so > I could > sand them down even with the surface. Keep filling and sanding > untill the > surface is completely smooth. Then several good coats of paint did > it. I'm > very happy with the result. > > gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 25 21:03:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 332792D0869 for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:03:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A13952D08F0 for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:02:44 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=etWihTN2XAzCUa6yEdfoVCvAQtg3KIPbOQ2COpKCmtkZPK8TH8qupX0bgmmyrWWS; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [67.0.134.222] (helo=Shemp) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TGhwQ-0006QV-95 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 23:05:38 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Cliff Hansen" To: "list Triumph" Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:05:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-ELNK-Trace: 528c356ac306a91c1da3787d14811d2a4d2b10475b5711200d5250ea285bea26bd0033a0d537f349bf3294552ef4316f350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 67.0.134.222 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Speedisleeve part no. for TR4A-6 pinion flange? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Does anyone have the current part numbers for a Speedisleeve and seal for a TR4A pinion? Chicago Rawhide is now SKF and the CR part number I have (#99149) doesnbt come up in the SKF catalog. Thanks, Cliff ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Tue Sep 25 21:22:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF5A2D0656 for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:22:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D69B2D037E for ; Tue, 25 Sep 2012 21:22:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=QrvcLCOd c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=UhMbDCpsOSMA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=5GvxJhUcqwUA:10 a=5RRMVyQvAAAA:20 a=aAbgo4BSso5EWMhzpWMA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=lW32n0T3mWwA:10 a=ddZT45GQ4RAA:10 a=Vfl_9cSSp6dzIZkFbf4A:9 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 a=ucH7BwLj_I8A:10 a=tNlq1oU7sllBeaBz:18 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55005] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 48/34-28917-E8572605; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 03:25:03 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Cliff Hansen'" , "'list Triumph'" References: Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 20:25:50 -0700 Message-ID: <048e01cd9b96$a0bdded0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: Thread-Index: Ac2bk/eXrjovU55XQum05EF6MOVjHQAAgojw X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/mixed by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Speedisleeve part no. for TR4A-6 pinion flange? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > TR4A pinion? Chicago Rawhide is now SKF and the CR part number I have > (#99149) doesnbt come up in the SKF catalog. It seems to be in the one they have posted on their web site: http://goo.gl/AUgh8 -- Randall [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of UNTITLED.JPG] ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 06:14:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6693F2D08E3 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:14:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C5F72D075E for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:14:16 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8QCHALK015222; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:17:10 -0400 Received: from core-moe001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.65]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id BD19BE00008A; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:17:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <1bbb7.5cec1bd9.3d944c45@cs.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:17:09 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net, triumphs@sltoa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1348661830; bh=ED4tStb6fhTyjWUoowhh+wFCQm6h1KhWP/dniZEm85Q=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=W5Es52TGQvwCF958fgAnZsaUfDhdLrkD8rZJbO9ymndIL7bLm5AbApcLDg2bYLenx 2kbmAcbr8qJjR8Y9uieoi+P3UzcgGiHvAB8eSNHCew+Gs2ldVV3OcJKLBLpGmtcEC1 ry2uCBUCMe5swRQAImbWNPW3ca/6aCK0uZldGpqY= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:465516736:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c75062f24510f1 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: classic25@yadtel.net Subject: [TR] Spitfire part needed X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Forwarded from the Wedge list. Please respond to classic25@yadtel.net ******************************** I have a friend that needs a exhaust manifold for a 1978 1500cc spitfire. I'm not on the Triumph mail list so I would appreciate it if someone who is on the list would post it and let me know if it has been posted. Thanks, Joe Worsley ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 06:32:13 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3782D05C9 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:32:13 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99E72D0223 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:31:57 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.203]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8QCYo6B017609; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:34:52 -0400 Received: from core-moe001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.65]) by mtaomg-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id DAF83E000082; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:34:51 -0400 (EDT) References: <1bbb7.5cec1bd9.3d944c45@cs.com> To: triumphs@autox.team.net, triumphs@sltoa.org, joe.worsley@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <1bbb7.5cec1bd9.3d944c45@cs.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Dave Massey X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: Compuserve WebMail 37001-STANDARD Received: from 96.24.251.93 by Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com (205.188.171.231) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:34:51 -0400 Message-Id: <8CF69FA7555B2ED-1F2C-3A61A@Webmail-d114.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [96.24.251.93] Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:34:51 -0400 (EDT) x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1348662892; bh=eXZFq3KmY7rwi7zo10gqhQGOoTZr6555lsgnSHJnS34=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=PVi8IFVkAR8FYSfqohy4qcvYy/0aXD1NsVDXh7Za0rOEUTc/PwybSrcfc5DB8grfb SwB2jrUsA44HvA8Qq6xHYUxB2j2HOesgRxOCIPEQCcOdQ92SMVZ7fgUjDrKyTj0KBw LNmG2KESVqNAlNh3w8mQvi7/3/HYO3DRQYfjJ4Xs= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:501450016:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33cb5062f66b38a8 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Fwd: Spitfire part needed X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Well, that didn't work. Let's try this address: joe.worsley@gmail.com, Dave Massey -----Original Message----- From: Dave1massey To: triumphs ; triumphs Cc: classic25 Sent: Wed, Sep 26, 2012 7:17 am Subject: Spitfire part needed Forwarded from the Wedge list. Please respond to classic25@yadtel.net ******************************** I have a friend that needs a exhaust manifold for a 1978 1500cc spitfire. I'm not on the Triumph mail list so I would appreciate it if someone who is on the list would post it and let me know if it has been posted. Thanks, Joe Worsley ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 06:43:09 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 477352D0733 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:43:09 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BD882D0726 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:42:54 -0600 (MDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=Ewb2ex45WQ3yuXjfbqQgPVVbTSqXo142GkMT8mpp0jK7XHatduL0rIM+QCkbSGVO; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:Importance:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [67.0.134.222] (helo=Shemp) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TGqzs-0002ER-Fb; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:45:48 -0400 Message-ID: <729304FA67E84131A7559CE872B5DCDF@Shemp> From: "Cliff Hansen" To: "Randall" , "'list Triumph'" References: <048e01cd9b96$a0bdded0$0601a8c0@randall> In-Reply-To: <048e01cd9b96$a0bdded0$0601a8c0@randall> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:45:49 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 15.4.3555.308 X-ELNK-Trace: 528c356ac306a91c1da3787d14811d2a4d2b10475b5711200d5250ea285bea26f155adfabe892eb61ee4b264fab01f9d350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 67.0.134.222 Subject: Re: [TR] Speedisleeve part no. for TR4A-6 pinion flange? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks, Randall. That part number comes up when searching their catalog but not when searching their website - user error again :) Cliff -----Original Message----- From: Randall Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:25 PM To: 'Cliff Hansen' ; 'list Triumph' Subject: RE: [TR] Speedisleeve part no. for TR4A-6 pinion flange? > TR4A pinion? Chicago Rawhide is now SKF and the CR part number I have > (#99149) doesnbt come up in the SKF catalog. It seems to be in the one they have posted on their web site: http://goo.gl/AUgh8 -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 07:28:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C1522D090D for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 07:28:42 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm23-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm23-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.212.191]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 363F02D074B for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 07:28:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.212.144] by nm23.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2012 13:31:40 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.101] by tm1.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2012 13:31:40 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1006.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2012 13:31:40 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 52607.4184.bm@omp1006.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 371 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Sep 2012 13:31:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1348666299; bh=L9pwNjnWtoemC/3fZCfXsCnheVwwjK3PDTQqkKBFoKo=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=qix/8LbqGBkCnwLT4eyEG4KakbP44Nxmg3CqCGmXIOaG+QI84f3dRcqD6OpgJMpeT3xcSt9zoBP+anJV3rz/+qe5Je8HA5Vj2mGZiejiG/is8cI0YikwaFeep7z0fpPgPpbGlV/IFhE5VOKcwCTuDQfpg45+ghmFh3q8S7CJT7s= s=s1024; d=att.net; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=YBXKcGvdJ3W8653EsaoZPNg5XPO9fPKqbV53+ee0zzSQ4nxu1gR57pMH6ZLrLB8YM0FbKKo9w9R68e55nJA+xshisK4c/d+tRuDfcdRfbGnHTt2AKwaisBeyJY6aEDbAcMaYUoLoIUTPvgKcR+LwoH1lNG3KmTG0tHBVugHPLRw=; X-YMail-OSG: ..grIFUVM1kjikuaSJqsTuWYDe8V9rK3.vEaAw5TmzQPWUR zEpDNEMnrTAGP85C365dw4MniMLJgKRdXBFqlzeD0VM0nPIbDf9EXkQIx6Zi .jrFrxCX0R7zE3cUCH0aUPIy9O6sdMs5V4_HAR9lOyQk5sysM_N2nJ5k0gkT AkxBp.NMpcjPOMmBUgyn.Vlt55042m0W1qjOl1ZYerouznNLPU50Imq1AgAZ h4GF3qZR.pn4uiZBGBKbBm8aHKl10.xOHRSRAwxX_Be3FHCVsQADHwuOS5Z. w3oue6i4hWPjIoyzEyyJJZaQkNt7FrUPsWii1vGW8Zzm4ffVmYZ8ViTM5WsW W5REjHpryM6q9Q8PWU4waTIbG2YIYfQdh5V9ZKK0BP.7OtDzlI9rS76EYpbM NN5QcERpKwG7bEiVmco.GymHeDjDzTJURGqoZ3LBgKt6vYoc0KiWMdcD1YEE TNrZYTuPaSWizfSmsP7EGZADnEZPPxwwntCB3RKqXEh6y5Oylje0u.tAUfAA - Received: from [107.195.28.17] by web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:31:39 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.434 Message-ID: <1348666299.94837.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 06:31:39 -0700 (PDT) From: William Brewer To: Triumphs MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Hope Springs Comments X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: William Brewer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I took my wife to dinner and a movie last night. We saw "Hope Springs". The movie draws middle aged couples because of the plot about an older married couple in marriage counseling. I parked my TR3 directly in front of the theater just because. Anyway, my wife was late (as always) and there was a steady stream of mid-50's & 60's guys looking at my car and asking questions while their wives rolled their eyes. Every one of them had a TR or MG story about their youth. One guy gave me a card and asked if he can buy my car if I ever sell it (sorry Charlie, no way). I love driving an old TR. Bill in Tehachapi ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 08:16:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CAD2D0921 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:16:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07ACB2D0768 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 08:16:10 -0600 (MDT) Received: by padfa10 with SMTP id fa10so564509pad.14 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 07:19:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kY4NqgrumrLg9V7nP3tcZtKhv4kUInAbkW4Kt6zqBpY=; b=niRtGnJ6tuCHz/V2OjgJn1TxnrloYp/+TaZRnJoj35SsgT12hgq9p5UKkTIgg+92hA R0k0v6BG0Kzah0srDGV8WvT/HGBlnWbIhv39hCCzzVQZK7uVxnsIWWQcxQbyKQoWTTOp RotsSzSwMrj5tO/3hNmuvQbYN6Yktd0nq/yhhmngtnC/8u2x7ETbmrKPe4whJTmJm77L bv/eQpJsReV1k243lGD9ZqkR0IlnDl7RTmK1rcGvD4IvPp5VQiWSEMhDOWSn/9IhmUlp ydc+yZzIOrk+KPpqn+Stt+jgCE5xoOTASkSdJNhB8pdY2gwu3AzAZaM+15BdNLfM8dnp XhWg== Received: by 10.68.242.97 with SMTP id wp1mr2766769pbc.159.1348669155240; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 07:19:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from White-Rabbit.local (174-19-154-144.phnx.qwest.net. [174.19.154.144]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l6sm69022pav.12.2012.09.26.07.19.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 26 Sep 2012 07:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <50630EE0.5080100@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 07:19:12 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net References: <1348666299.94837.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1348666299.94837.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [TR] Hope Springs Comments X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/26/12 6:31 AM, William Brewer wrote: > Every one of them had a TR or MG story > about their youth. One guy gave me a card and asked if he can buy my car if I > ever sell it (sorry Charlie, no way). I love driving an old TR. > > I few weeks ago my red TR3A was at the Flagstaff Route 66 car show. It was parked next to a red 1957 Corvette. After checking out the other cars in the show I mostly hung out by my car as did the owner of the 'Vette. Both of us occasionally let enthusiastic folks sit behind the wheel so they could get their picture taken. What was interesting was what people said. My TR3 was the source of many people's past. Stories of high school and college days. Of the fun and good times had by previous British sports car owners, many of which sold their cars when a first child arrived. My car was the stuff of remembered good times. Though I expect some memories were a bit shinier and burned brighter than the actual realities. It was also the stuff of longing for a simpler and maybe happier past as many people said they would like to get another one. The Corvette was the stuff of unrealized dreams. Of something bright shiny and powerful they lusted for in high school and college but could never afford in the days before family and "responsibilities" took their tolls on their lusts and dreams. Whereas many people told stories of past involvements with TRs almost no one mentioned a past involvement with the 'Vette. Just always wanting one and it being out of their reach. Most car show visitors just walked past most of the cars on display. Maybe stopping to look in the engine bay and interior before moving on the next of 400 and something cars lining the streets of down town Flagstaff. But when they got to our pair of two seater sports cars a constant stream of people had to stop and relate stories of dreams and past experiences. Both cars were symbols of people's past, their car lusts and dreams. We noticed that the bigger corvette was of more interest to teenagers old enough to drive and the much smaller TR3 attracted the most pre teens. I think largely because it was so different than most of the cars at the show and it was closer to their size. it seemed easier for them to relate to a much smaller car. There were a lot of pictures taken of pre teens sitting behind the wheel of my TR3 with one hand on the steering wheel and an elbow resting on the door. Noticeably more pictures were taken of people standing in front of the TR than in front of the Vette. We both concluded that my car was the stuff of memories though probably mostly idealized memories and fantasies . His 57 Corvette was mostly the stuff of unreached fantasy. Of dreams unobtained. When the show was over I think both of us went home in the glow of knowing that our realities were the stuff of so many other people's dreams. Oil spots and all. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 13:24:26 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 118EF2D04C7 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:24:26 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from vms173011pub.verizon.net (vms173011pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.11]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA3A62D037E for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:24:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: from vznit170176pub.verizon.net ([unknown] [192.168.1.3]) by vms173011.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0MAZ00L4621IQUT0@vms173011.mailsrvcs.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:27:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 131.247.90.134 ([131.247.90.134]) by vznit170176 (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:27:18 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:27:18 -0500 (CDT) From: Carl TR To: tjwakeman@gmail.com, triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <4950567.1111009.1348687638698.JavaMail.root@vznit170176> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Verizon Webmail X-Originating-IP: [131.247.90.134] Subject: Re: [TR] Hope Springs Comments X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Well said. Thank you. Carl On 09/26/12, TeriAnn J. Wakeman wrote: On 9/26/12 6:31 AM, William Brewer wrote: > Every one of them had a TR or MG story > about their youth. One guy gave me a card and asked if he can buy my car if I > ever sell it (sorry Charlie, no way). I love driving an old TR. > > I few weeks ago my red TR3A was at the Flagstaff Route 66 car show. It was parked next to a red 1957 Corvette. After checking out the other cars in the show I mostly hung out by my car as did the owner of the 'Vette. Both of us occasionally let enthusiastic folks sit behind the wheel so they could get their picture taken. What was interesting was what people said. My TR3 was the source of many people's past. Stories of high school and college days. Of the fun and good times had by previous British sports car owners, many of which sold their cars when a first child arrived. My car was the stuff of remembered good times. Though I expect some memories were a bit shinier and burned brighter than the actual realities. It was also the stuff of longing for a simpler and maybe happier past as many people said they would like to get another one. The Corvette was the stuff of unrealized dreams. Of something bright shiny and powerful they lusted for in high school and college but could never afford in the days before family and "responsibilities" took their tolls on their lusts and dreams. Whereas many people told stories of past involvements with TRs almost no one mentioned a past involvement with the 'Vette. Just always wanting one and it being out of their reach. Most car show visitors just walked past most of the cars on display. Maybe stopping to look in the engine bay and interior before moving on the next of 400 and something cars lining the streets of down town Flagstaff. But when they got to our pair of two seater sports cars a constant stream of people had to stop and relate stories of dreams and past experiences. Both cars were symbols of people's past, their car lusts and dreams. We noticed that the bigger corvette was of more interest to teenagers old enough to drive and the much smaller TR3 attracted the most pre teens. I think largely because it was so different than most of the cars at the show and it was closer to their size. it seemed easier for them to relate to a much smaller car. There were a lot of pictures taken of pre teens sitting behind the wheel of my TR3 with one hand on the steering wheel and an elbow resting on the door. Noticeably more pictures were taken of people standing in front of the TR than in front of the Vette. We both concluded that my car was the stuff of memories though probably mostly idealized memories and fantasies . His 57 Corvette was mostly the stuff of unreached fantasy. Of dreams unobtained. When the show was over I think both of us went home in the glow of knowing that our realities were the stuff of so many other people's dreams. Oil spots and all. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/cfmtr3a@verizon.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 14:23:27 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3D292D04EB for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:23:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-la0-f41.google.com (mail-la0-f41.google.com [209.85.215.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8300D2D048F for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:20:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: by lagp5 with SMTP id p5so30238lag.14 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:23:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=K5ehAMDaidoVnC50W8F9zkpodVNZPe5oiWrK9Vl/krs=; b=vnEBg1lpj/ep1mDjNjGJuNf9K8iBxfVp3Lzw7SYC3nUUzG0/y/og5XVmS1X4AWcCAF ERjhFeSGz9rrhMjazlwSp4SG5O2203h0Zy9lR/gGArP4fB1Kzu9K6CTKCxjz21hSxoPe BdCKzDlYcZ9dG9VkISJ6KcTm5sHApx1wWinqEl9810GBoGK5SggfTzwad9D50ErDpEXr gAQ1fqnH6WLqaKvUN6kPmPT60e62J7KiReYE9mKARfmizBWjTyosE5HpD5zZFVd1epyT i98xUpZmnWEZoWUZ3lfesdwjZFOL5SbIk5efAwUYfsPNmMkt9QUvFvytLFdmyggj4XyG sw3Q== Received: by 10.152.114.5 with SMTP id jc5mr1509303lab.36.1348691017799; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:23:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 13:23:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Don Hiscock Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:23:17 -0400 Message-ID: To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Routing of Speedo Cable on LHS non-OD TR3A/B? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net A new speedo cable will be installed in my TR3B in a week or two as the original gave up the ghost about a week after the car's return to the road (a nasty kink exiting the gearbox). As I look at old photos of my car pre-restoration and reference photos of other unrestored TR3A/Bs the exact cable routing isn't clear. The TRA Judging Standards and Restoration Guidelines is confused too, apparently, treating some of the details with ??? in the text on page UH-23 of the May 2004 revision. Triumph usually did what they did for a reason, typically cost control or maximum reliability. Whaddya all think? 1. Does the speedometer cable go between the inner fender and steering column or between engine and steering column? 2. One or two clips on the chassis? (the Triumph Spare Parts Catalog 4th Edition specifies two, one to chassis, one to cruciform, with different part numbers for each) 3. Any P-clips on the dash? (Parts catalog specifies a clip + screw for non OD and even two on RHS version. A screw clip on LHS non-OD mystifies me, and it's not clear which side of the firewall they're referring to for this "dash" clip.) TIA, Don ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 15:15:59 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 857A82D04FE for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:15:59 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com (mail-bk0-f41.google.com [209.85.214.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 677032D04D7 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:15:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: by bkcjm1 with SMTP id jm1so824413bkc.14 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:18:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=3wWCAMaiRcj2FhOTCtPOH1mLNMlwescVgovoWiJH1lk=; b=TZc9tuq8duAh4oHU+HcZzhTFtVQa0HFutY039KwG2/uA0COU0EMyp+56tKShv5uUOU 2VRXU9iaRahSUsfICILqcL9AS2L1Ioj7pF2aZel7bihLrVRR4MFcAx28wsJtnWWhOvkZ kTHCPKCdKt724FCqTQQ/DvO/2ofWZyQKJuaITC5L2rphcKXhYuwqN7yyHwgqXQuSFKcz lG8eVPVm/GQcIdoVHZR0/QtYFpSdxjNoIdtIemaVUm8k9c62IarizCMKPbDY0TrdWKXU pQAm0zO9TAZvGXEPXl1GaHoIBHtvWuaG/2kHOdfmXIZvsrJoJWMJ81C9E+ajWjdEsdVm 6u6w== Received: by 10.112.9.3 with SMTP id v3mr902311lba.32.1348694337964; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:18:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.112.150.167 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 14:18:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Don Hiscock Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:18:37 -0400 Message-ID: To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Routing of Speedo Cable on LHS non-OD TR3A/B? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Consensus coming in through pm is that LHS non-OD speedo cable is routed between steering column and inner fender, as illustrated on page 13 of blue-covered "Practical Hints" TR3 manual. No word on where a p-clip might fit, though... Thanks, guys. Don On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Don Hiscock wrote: > A new speedo cable will be installed in my TR3B in a week or two as the > original gave up the ghost about a week after the car's return to the road > (a nasty kink exiting the gearbox). As I look at old photos of my car > pre-restoration and reference photos of other unrestored TR3A/Bs the exact > cable routing isn't clear. The TRA Judging Standards > and Restoration Guidelines is confused too, apparently, treating some of > the details with ??? in the text on page UH-23 of the May 2004 revision. > > Triumph usually did what they did for a reason, typically cost control or > maximum reliability. > > Whaddya all think? > 1. Does the speedometer cable go between the inner fender and steering > column or between engine and steering column? > 2. One or two clips on the chassis? (the Triumph Spare Parts Catalog 4th > Edition specifies two, one to chassis, one to cruciform, with different > part numbers for each) > 3. Any P-clips on the dash? (Parts catalog specifies a clip + screw for > non OD and even two on RHS version. A screw clip on LHS non-OD mystifies > me, and it's not clear which side of the firewall they're referring to for > this "dash" clip.) > > TIA, > > Don ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 15:35:51 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F8FD2D04E7 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:35:51 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp1.ctinetworks.com (smtp1.ctinetworks.com [205.166.61.208]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3E572D03B0 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:35:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ITTEST4 (75.97.214.12.res-cmts.sth3.ptd.net [75.97.214.12]) by smtp1.ctinetworks.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D321C585BB3; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:38:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: From: "davewillner" To: "Don Hiscock" , "Triumphs" References: Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:40:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-ctinetworks-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ctinetworks-MailScanner-ID: D321C585BB3.A3E44 X-ctinetworks-VirusCheck: Found to be clean X-ctinetworks-Watermark: 1349559529.53291@fWnvpE/mMNIm94MpClp3cQ Subject: Re: [TR] Routing of Speedo Cable on LHS non-OD TR3A/B? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I have no P clamps on either cable....I have seen clips on early 3s under a slotted screw (at the 1 o'clock position) that helps hold the steering grommet in place from turning with the column (in addition to the spring clamp), that might be for the speedo cable? Although I don't believe my post 60,000 car ever had a clip there. Dave Willner Stroudsburg PA 59 TR3A 70 MGB 70 BSA 441 VS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Hiscock" To: "Triumphs" Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [TR] Routing of Speedo Cable on LHS non-OD TR3A/B? > Consensus coming in through pm is that LHS non-OD speedo cable is routed > between steering column and inner fender, as illustrated on page 13 of > blue-covered "Practical Hints" TR3 manual. > > No word on where a p-clip might fit, though... > > Thanks, guys. > > Don > > On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Don Hiscock > wrote: > >> A new speedo cable will be installed in my TR3B in a week or two as the >> original gave up the ghost about a week after the car's return to the >> road >> (a nasty kink exiting the gearbox). As I look at old photos of my car >> pre-restoration and reference photos of other unrestored TR3A/Bs the >> exact >> cable routing isn't clear. The TRA Judging Standards >> and Restoration Guidelines is confused too, apparently, treating some of >> the details with ??? in the text on page UH-23 of the May 2004 revision. >> >> Triumph usually did what they did for a reason, typically cost control or >> maximum reliability. >> >> Whaddya all think? >> 1. Does the speedometer cable go between the inner fender and steering >> column or between engine and steering column? >> 2. One or two clips on the chassis? (the Triumph Spare Parts Catalog 4th >> Edition specifies two, one to chassis, one to cruciform, with different >> part numbers for each) >> 3. Any P-clips on the dash? (Parts catalog specifies a clip + screw for >> non OD and even two on RHS version. A screw clip on LHS non-OD mystifies >> me, and it's not clear which side of the firewall they're referring to >> for >> this "dash" clip.) >> >> TIA, >> >> Don > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/davewillner@pa.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 16:15:57 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025072D04DB for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:15:57 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 716E42D0375 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:15:51 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120926221855.ZLAC24708.mta31.charter.net@imp10> for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:18:55 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.136.73]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id 3yJv1k00G1bBNls05yJvy9; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:18:55 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=qU9vTENroOq2s6i9/sTxZt9WOCoWX/XGfIT3Tj8F8dQ= c=1 sm=1 a=FB6NmUnAAagA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:17 a=3av8m78kAAAA:8 a=A2rXmIRYpsqTgv6oENsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:117 Message-ID: <50637F50.80704@charter.net> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:18:56 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: *Triumphs List X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120926-1, 09/26/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Subject: [TR] TR6 Gearbox Cover X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Another question regarding TR6 fastener esoterica... TR6 gearbox cover - I'm replacing my cardboard mess with a plastic one. There is a short metal "bridge" that attaches to the cover to make the seal under the bulging part of the cover. You can see the bulge in this photo from Rimmer: http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-713569PL -- it's on the side, right under the gear lever hole. My bridge piece has one hole to align with the cover hold-down bolt, and two holes in the vertical bit to attach to the cover. On the old cover, it looks for all the world like it had one screw and one rivet. There's only one spire nut on the piece...and what looks like an old broken rivet in the cover. If I took the screw out, I don't remember. Does this sound right? I suppose it doesn't really matter, but I'm curious - if it uses one screw and one rivet, does that mean my car was assembled after a pub lunch? Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 16:27:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEFBB2D04EB for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:27:07 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm1-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm1-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.161]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 732262D0457 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:25:34 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm1.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2012 22:28:39 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.160] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2012 22:28:39 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1016.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Sep 2012 22:28:39 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 493446.11439.bm@omp1016.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 41350 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Sep 2012 22:28:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348698519; bh=zLneb/bi1HEci+4OoRcKsO1BtwJ8keCp8Q+u+5/mTyA=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=cVmHNJ+AfOSUV0RNoDxicXT9lbGEA6MVUq3X0EIUNpt5qg1ka51cBaFlyTGsLNB6otmHYwzj5955OR1gKSTuX0/e++adCJ5B6H6bBqBLS9Ozyjk82g6Jf2vmlaMces2c+hL37vSw8X0hoyOSUAW1ozgkpvOjRiD7Jj9NPbyl7sE= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=X8QsRu1rvxAM1bdgl8cFM7KEGNKiQq1BNp1C5z10bv3LMlR9DONzfYFm/Xb3L6M4dFkNE0wKoVjfGGIQCITHY37CR6BB/XS8u59alb6QVYVx+YC4R4YxpuHy7ef0eWi05m2us3Bm/o/RLgM7C4gsaqv3sQ4Jh57BkdpVY6aZMqw=; X-YMail-OSG: bP4pFMQVM1n_eYuXu.m74t_bhdxYpO8YyQ19h5oaH5xdnQ8 PWE6332Lg9OBtl4s8MserZssjDetYBKeRXH7mS9YXvLiWXadeZz5BLMz0l5P Ou_s.toD.PEssrLR41VH3AdFc4JLSZy3Lgyr4yR65EDAztmcIBR.lRkAt8Rg Kl27kcwOytvSuVaht87U555Lm4Nse9Civ5IjqxGYRFoqqcicKeY5CVQYRR1N dgGpencavzaEpJR651CZZj_ZpP2CZw9eSSYx7S0ChIqI3NFIodNkSEbuEpdC fDKGCmLhZ.eGrj7wh8wu0kqXBDGXORiBbkrnq_sC75IOz.QzZvtWYAQJzZI8 hE1LgGP5S.anDztUu0IgTsKcf89Fd3I9.ZLHp4ib4KYw87KVlZjtlAqgnxqv 8iTtOh06St32FCZyQvA1GogLzCpoQqb8jI2y6Lk6y8f1cfmreP75XGoP3LI_ 68oQLznG97AM.XsDV9nnun6lzvQV0uONeEWPQxg2KGHjpuHPI4admJgtYl9b bgJz6iE79nj_zTdBEMOTlIcdDULrDB7ihqgswVa88H8VhbAZplgu_zQslBQ3 QN32K1Zs8S8sroqZQ6HGshofRr6bGOaM- Received: from [63.110.186.130] by web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:28:39 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.434 References: <50637F50.80704@charter.net> Message-ID: <1348698519.6227.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:28:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Fisher To: Jeff , Triumphs In-Reply-To: <50637F50.80704@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Gearbox Cover X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Frank Fisher List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net could your "rivet" be the remnants of the carpet hold down snap? frank From: Jeff To: *Triumphs List Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 3:18 PM Subject: [TR] TR6 Gearbox Cover Another question regarding TR6 fastener esoterica... TR6 gearbox cover - I'm replacing my cardboard mess with a plastic one. There is a short metal "bridge" that attaches to the cover to make the seal under the bulging part of the cover. You can see the bulge in this photo from Rimmer: http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-713569PL -- it's on the side, right under the gear lever hole. My bridge piece has one hole to align with the cover hold-down bolt, and two holes in the vertical bit to attach to the cover. On the old cover, it looks for all the world like it had one screw and one rivet. There's only one spire nut on the piece...and what looks like an old broken rivet in the cover. If I took the screw out, I don't remember. Does this sound right? I suppose it doesn't really matter, but I'm curious - if it uses one screw and one rivet, does that mean my car was assembled after a pub lunch? Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 16:51:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7204B2D04F6 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:51:35 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C1922D047B for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 16:51:28 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120926225433.MDF10966.mta11.charter.net@imp10>; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:54:33 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.136.73]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id 3yuY1k00B1bBNls05yuYgo; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:54:33 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=qU9vTENroOq2s6i9/sTxZt9WOCoWX/XGfIT3Tj8F8dQ= c=1 sm=1 a=FB6NmUnAAagA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:17 a=3av8m78kAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=1b4IPv4Iw35OB4RNog4A:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=TzJN8xikMM6rVZwAhNkA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:117 Message-ID: <506387AA.8030606@charter.net> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:54:34 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Frank Fisher References: <50637F50.80704@charter.net> <1348698519.6227.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <1348698519.6227.YahooMailNeo@web120003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120926-1, 09/26/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: Triumphs Subject: Re: [TR] TR6 Gearbox Cover X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net On 9/26/2012 6:28 PM, Frank Fisher wrote: > could your "rivet" be the remnantsof the carpet hold down snap? The rivet matches up with the hole in the bridge/bracket. I don't think there's a snap there, but I could be wrong. Doesn't look like one, though... > TR6 gearbox cover - I'm replacing my cardboard mess with a plastic > one. There is a short metal "bridge" that attaches to the cover to > make the seal under the bulging part of the cover. You can see the > bulge in this photo from Rimmer: > http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-713569PL -- it's on the side, > right under the gear lever hole. > > My bridge piece has one hole to align with the cover hold-down bolt, > and two holes in the vertical bit to attach to the cover. On the old > cover, it looks for all the world like it had one screw and one > rivet. There's only one spire nut on the piece...and what looks like > an old broken rivet in the cover. If I took the screw out, I don't > remember. > > Does this sound right? I suppose it doesn't really matter, but I'm > curious - if it uses one screw and one rivet, does that mean my car > was assembled after a pub lunch? > > Jeff Scarbrough > Corrosion Acres, Ga. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/yellowtr3@yahoo.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 18:24:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BC082D04F6 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:24:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm3-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm3-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.163]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C3152D03A5 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 18:24:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.51] by nm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2012 00:27:32 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.3] by tm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2012 00:27:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2012 00:27:32 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 686438.98243.bm@omp1003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 56632 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Sep 2012 00:27:32 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348705652; bh=Lj19j/D1mJ7arAKLxVfqOOl/mB74SYa8h6Kv980xD0E=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=Sz4wjtTTwanD5/MNxwWtKOlCscDKQW0AzlNQmtHzxOrRUbhQ4W7L3x0yRnP+wsvl8SUVWPKy9LP3Symy7uyvyLxBiholSnuyTbNuc/hs/M7HAmGXoe2JAe19H+7H3deX3jZVUKJE5w45fxB1tHKSiNQ7+49i105xT5gDPPpaezM= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wztrSnP+bJzJMU40yskKyG0ur3ck+In5CUcYMz0dypGm+HC26za4UxHU6iQ6VDBrLHYenGi4EDKsvQySzGk87cIXPG/gIjq1TwBqETqg37tKnHZ9GJE56Px8lP4Z+bc4cX79kvtJQ+EPrBQYt/99o3FzdjkcHxMhJ5FOkhtThJs=; X-YMail-OSG: RDz7I28VM1nDfHbeyxsa8UxpfZ3M1AmSkHwO.1e_DD2p0jv rT82yQkBefSQYi3.jupuMw4pHe3H0jAZ6bJG4A9ONqBmqi.xk2k_VORw5uoI EpvSUHOETZezInm1J_AH_0pxA07hROHNKt_EspugAowx2xY_e.opLkOJaojM vhK4eUuVXfRA1ey14klGDt076qz0li6PXHRpBu0vutsw0N60d5G4s7oxjWBu rflbus223iQ0Lrar0Q8e_We5l3xe8_ygRNO.MNqXaJ.u4T.5f5DS4VsqHPuS pdbOB7TvGNbNF.sUVpJXkDb.WvzeIWg0SmKo7KyEjA329tkVAO9y52RGezaS uH27YF1u6Mcplc6YVIiONkIpy6BCqn53GetSkc9nNVSRums.ftrmYXHcszSo ADb1ZWN_sO_Cm_u9HVDpRrM90RaDRVUHBdT1QsQTGRyMWhVuARxNviJgXKGC 3UWNy.GICVF4.tVDJLM9o Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:27:32 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.434 Message-ID: <1348705652.37322.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 17:27:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] control head "roller" ? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Nafziger List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Took apart the control head (tr-3)...........re-assembled............... and now can't make the lever stay ON when moved to the right or left. (when moved to right or left it flies back to center). Should there be a "roller" or spring loaded "ball" on the lower end of the turn signal lever? I notice there is a square hole in the bottom of the lever which holds a spring and I also have a square shaped piece of brass that slides inside the square hole and over the spring. The tip of this square shaped brass piece has a cross cut depression which looks as it should hold something................. I might have lost? thanks gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 20:12:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AB082D03B8 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:12:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92D6B2D0330 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:12:09 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=LKXkseq9 c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=Exq7NNYy_2EA:10 a=zPxtSL1LsHAGYYBPWl8A:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55004] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id A1/CB-21812-1B6B3605; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 02:15:14 +0000 From: "Randall" To: References: <1348666299.94837.YahooMailNeo@web180902.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <50630EE0.5080100@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:16:02 -0700 Message-ID: <058f01cd9c56$0b205040$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <50630EE0.5080100@gmail.com> Thread-Index: Ac2b8fj3YMx9KkXdS0mqyQ8V+LnFRAAY/h2g Subject: Re: [TR] Hope Springs Comments X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > When the show was over I think both of us went home in the glow of > knowing that our realities were the stuff of so many other people's > dreams. Oil spots and all. You do have a way with words, TeriAnn. Thank you. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Wed Sep 26 20:51:53 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E242D03B1 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:51:53 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BFEC2D03A9 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 20:51:09 -0600 (MDT) Received: by padfa10 with SMTP id fa10so1080672pad.14 for ; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:54:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type; bh=uA5OpmJigSnEyF0fqhXmzHCnRfUstRQqGvbCUR/HQgc=; b=JjE3I+DqRM2zXa+n4Sqp0LVUK9bx7gufiKK9hYR3oAgNeFaAH53wYR6ORWsbMlC1qg fipOkiQEYPR2790BkAxtjgzZIQKkkZxiRdmZfDAROnbuYyhe5MWByCVP7OlLr3FBnKi3 mSreXrIAC/TUXmUSBSckAPu4KH4uVcBvoX65V1hC4YiyvM9vqYcJ3Zpkpcmmipg+v3rx Y97+7UHyQvGJabiDU5mppYJgIaHzX+JOuccDn/NxrKlc02wjwa+kccI3ob6C9IRR5RuW 8T9hlU7khxAX4CgVMTFe/gWgJPX0zgwH6x1lD1tp9iZ46l3zaV0LN07KAuQTK8gnmNh0 Xq3g== Received: by 10.66.75.168 with SMTP id d8mr5908131paw.63.1348714455007; Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:54:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from flagstaff365.com (174-19-154-144.phnx.qwest.net. [174.19.154.144]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id nz6sm3037042pbb.50.2012.09.26.19.54.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5063BFD3.6020903@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 19:54:11 -0700 From: "TeriAnn J. Wakeman" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumph List X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] A triumph desert starts a short fall bloom X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net This afternoon I pulled my TR3 out of the garage and made a run to the East side Home depot to pick up more bonemeal for some tulips I'm planting. Little America, the scene of the ever so imminent 2012 Triumphest is all of maybe 2 blocks from my freeway entrance on the way home to Western Flagstaff. So I decided to take a slight detour, call it pre gathering excitement. Sitting at the back of the Little America parking lot was a trio of TR6's. As near as I have been able to determine that tripled the number of Triumphs in Flagstaff. There is my 3A plus a guy just South of Flagstaff proper who owns a blue TR6 and a Black 3A. That's the entire Flagstaff TR resident population. Soon, very soon there will be a brief bloom of Triumphs in a Triumph desert. I am so looking forward to not being alone on the streets in a TR. It was hard moving from the Monterey bay area with its British sports cars & nearby British car field meets to a town on Route 66 that loves old American iron but has a dearth of classic British cars. Monterey car week used to be one of the major highlights of my year. Flagstaff has a lot to offer but British sports cars is not part of the scene. So this weekend I will bask in the company of Triumphs during this all too short fall Triumph bloom. To those of you coming to Triumphest - Welcome. TeriAnn Look for a red TR3A with hard top and FOT grille badge. TeriAnn ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 27 04:16:28 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4AF2D0692 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:16:28 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm22-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (nm22-vm0.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [98.139.53.218]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B228B2D0640 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:16:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.52.197] by nm22.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2012 10:19:27 -0000 Received: from [98.139.52.170] by tm10.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2012 10:19:27 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1053.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2012 10:19:27 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 133986.28329.bm@omp1053.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 57800 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Sep 2012 10:19:26 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348741166; bh=WkffQAkidO1vadjjsu34byOT97TjJoLFJNV4gGwFdnQ=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=vPwR1z6iiAI9mjWw6fSNLj1zRQ3ypgdcgnYddQp5Bo4Hh8EJCIGI+eKAAben0v+JfX0CEKr7lwje0XVpa/nKleA+LuAOFSgL+ebl0SQWLXI1OxRTadbw0zwf8obUSNmpDwQ/ReooWdTQslltVmBo7zkhHgrxOzqurEcETZQmLeM= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SMhmPEAWcJsCq7Mq0i7b7NcX1f56W9UUb/GiMyi2nN7zIMZikoZ3N84/T8E77p1kxIcU6LszDi46HNAi1WbF+tPtscoVeOMPFAC6vE+mTZSv7k+1sqOLwHDc9PjvhEHZ1Veyd410yfYiWrD+/NoRzUyTt1z6fvosbAP3ZFYkFE0=; X-YMail-OSG: qkhFsugVM1m5YEqFpMx8JO0fOJY0V2FVCQIEWJMHVJs6onI 6pjV9BUStL4oWdJx7ogtp3AMkbbeHB_r3zoPjtt16bx6uJf1PNjTMlw98pk7 XQ1KFbA9egj9W_8vhMkA_DPwtvjg7N0AZDGER5eGoHAkaPjQZ0wLXJ76Xr4T A83F_7NWjsUWC8AN7fgHyIQJppJWxQFhEvaMDgCrAIfjy8GV7BR5DwOpLQ8y gKHgCy.TborNZU4NZ_pDgTDCqtOWFwc0rkIKDwyqrRz1NVTyECvucsaZba0i _NPZOZZCKxRT8_2pR42zRlYggCdUgeL6rwH5q44PAi4kJCaQbilNlzD5c5RI DUMyfLR9OlZfM6zvMZRlEbq_mgXOveKRcRMsQxjuv8V3AHFuLe6Qw20uGIcn 3yRRHlJkLjqv82g1AemPvBAerhECPQuCtlRN5hHmPUzNe2F_n_DLhU_uc33g nW3PNKKIGPoXomzwaXxjudMtSD.E0kOJLvPoOY3GlhsfWFjQ- Received: from [74.110.31.126] by web39402.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 03:19:26 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.434 Message-ID: <1348741166.35293.YahooMailNeo@web39402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 03:19:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Cosmo Kramer To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] (no subject) X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Cosmo Kramer List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi list! I sent E-mails to 2 different people That didn't reply. I believe that many of my E-mails that I send out go to the 'spam' folder instead of the in box so that's why I'm making this post: =========== 1- From: Cosmo Kramer To: "dmericas@austin.rr.com" Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:45 AM Subject: Yellow Engine Fan Hi Don! I have one, but I'm on the Digest List so you may have received a reply already. If you want (& you haven't received a reply, yet), E-mail me & I'll go look for it up in my loft? -Cosmo Kramer ------------------------------- 2- From: Cosmo Kramer To: ""Joe Curry"" Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 7:28 AM Subject: Glob Decal- PLEASE Reply Hi Joe! I know you sell an 11" decal of the TRIUMPH Shield, but I was wondering if you had a "TRIUMPH" Globe large decal? If not, then do you have an image of this that you could E-mail me, in an attachment, that would give GOOD Detail Quality if blown up to a 24" diameter? -Cosmo Kramer =========== Would these two people, or anyone else that might be of help to me, please reply. TIA, & I'm sorry to bother the list. -Cosmo Kramer -Cosmo Kramer ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 27 08:48:15 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 261822D060F for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:48:15 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from smtp3.execulink.net (smtp3.execulink.net [69.63.44.84]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19962D05D7 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 08:46:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from node-3092.tor.pppoe.execulink.com ([216.59.252.20] helo=[127.0.0.1]) by smtp3.execulink.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1THFP3-0007xi-3Q for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:49:25 -0400 Message-ID: <5064677A.6050000@execulink.com> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:49:30 -0400 From: Angelo Graham User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Heat insulation material - installation X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hello List: Just picked up some of the foil backed heat insulation to finish off the interior of my '2 project. The material is felt backed by a shiny aluminum foil. First and obvious question is which side goes "down". I have seen many cars with the insulation installed both ways, the foil side up - away from the heat source and others with the felt side toward the heat source. Having the foil side up makes for easier carpet installation as it is easier to glue on this surface. Any thoughts or experiences on this one? What about the floor pans? Should they be covered as well? Intend to cover the inside of the firewall, the trans tunnel. Any other areas that need attention? The '2 tends to have a bit hotter cockpit, as it does not have a scuttle vent. Thanks for any help. Angelo Graham ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 27 11:29:33 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D547C2D06BF for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:29:33 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout17.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout17.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.139]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D51E2D0689 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:29:27 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan16.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.16] helo=mailscan16.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout17.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1THHwu-0001Ct-Q9 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:32:32 -0400 Received: from impout01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.1] helo=impout01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan16.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1THHwu-0002Hd-DA; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:32:32 -0400 Received: from webmail12.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.16.12]) by impout01.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id 4HYY1k0020FcvPu01HYYM1; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:32:32 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IICA+3TG c=1 sm=1 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=Q7zus9ReCAYA:10 a=gTZP2DCGA9MA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=ObD0-6JFAAAA:8 a=QvyEbsGhqD4A:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=UBeWovE3jXl84uSLY5EA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=QcFxcOnyDiYA:10 a=OTd7mDdtQPObUePB2dKGCw==:117 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.16.12 X-EN-IMPSID: 4HYY1k0020FcvPu01HYYM1 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=email.accountsupport.com) by webmail12.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1THHwU-0006r8-3E; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:32:06 -0400 Received: from 69.180.140.196 (SquirrelMail authenticated user greg@gelhar.com) by email.accountsupport.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:32:06 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1348705652.37322.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1348705652.37322.YahooMailNeo@web120601.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:32:06 -0400 From: greg@gelhar.com To: "Gary Nafziger" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] control head "roller" ? X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Gary, yes there is a spring behind, and a roller in front of the square brass piece. Let me know if you don't find the roller, I know I have some parts in a box around here. Greg G. Osseo, MN > Took apart the control head (tr-3)...........re-assembled............... > and > now can't make the lever stay ON when moved to the right or left. (when > moved > to right or left it flies back to center). > Should there be a "roller" or > spring loaded "ball" on the lower end of the turn signal lever? I notice > there is a square hole in the bottom of the lever which holds a spring and > I > also have a square shaped piece of brass that slides inside the square > hole > and over the spring. The tip of this square shaped brass piece has a > cross > cut depression which looks as it should hold something................. > I > might have lost? > > thanks > > gary n. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/greg@gelhar.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 27 12:47:38 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78F492D0619 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:47:38 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm28-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm28-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.158]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E57C62D031E for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:47:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm28.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2012 18:50:38 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.251] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2012 18:50:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1043.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 27 Sep 2012 18:50:38 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 347570.43480.bm@omp1043.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 9550 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Sep 2012 18:50:38 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348771838; bh=f1zTrcB0eJI2Zf8ayJ/H9KekOJuCkY4l8wcO9jU56LY=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=INyHuLvjr4YvwSGvJmUjGJK9gT8rCLkc+bNehoj5igmqSN7BVreSRuw97S5O96kGa+EI2N8iBZpu09M5DOCH5UE1n3N3GqjK4TP6obz/zhLXnr35y41NYlNhRT4gRO2A93eYGTDbGRMOpx4ImqGmxbh2KpWxiaFj24y8JlLwnbg= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=wNjtQTMKvaCqJATLzIQC0YxM6bvcjjjQs6SI9I81XWZs/0isegGPi8C05XZlUOUOMp0QDXkAbCqO/upGr8a5HNehdve/XR856mM9sWyt9ZasCPeVww7BkflI8ICHd/DIoV5eKnpChRZPsMgtc9ECrIHlSVYVqHFw+cu2u68eano=; X-YMail-OSG: lpWMo30VM1kLLxhDsQfVt8uzIMicGdBGQxknWnCYUGr4.6F 5FnS4lwQCxv0ov1GBFCv7Jeu212HJqJzBaS2Jtuwpb2TN7q0ivLWjhsw0M8O NJVhwfeqMAno6.dmm.DUgE.QPHK6eYd2uf_GdfXdZEcekeIvVYKiLyhq0IUa y87Wy4yhSwyXHbdiLQx0WJJYItshAL8PLFkMOmDtxPNvF6iSdIjJLX.ebLnp BVvd4Cd2cTG29e0TJxBevd1Fmt5IF8Qg.jKWWupWX4hy95ITuOMOePgKB1Of 3.OWAGabK75GEn1KlMQrDshGWiFJw1UkhYlFsBM1yx5wrXKHalSH.vDSPf2s QiD0LbSHx9Y0KQ_V3qRBAaVg9_EXFHwf62dmNFbXJffw3mPH.YFdb3LxFMlm 9.1Ib7O9PI46GONMU3WpgvlLV6NKQD19VeDCEr3VE.pIWrP_nz8Ts0FJk7fe mLLfIoZJxu4ntecdP_ssg Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:50:38 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.434 Message-ID: <1348771838.7635.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:50:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] control head "roller" and electrics X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Nafziger List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thanks to all who responded to the control head "roller" quest. Daydreaming before falling to sleep last night I remembered cleaning out the control head with solvent and a toothbrush........dumping the remains into a coffee can. Today revisited the folgers can........dumped it and combed through the muck found the little "roller". OMG.........smaller than a Pea. One of those miracle days! But still having trouble getting lights to work...........nada on tail or headlights. (59 tr-3) Have re-checked all the dash switch connections and they seem in order but a strange thing happens. I can turn on the ignition switch and hit the starter and it turns starter as well as turns on the ignition warning light. After several times of switching on and off.............everything goes dead. no ignition warning light and no starter response................... although the starter does turn from the solenoid on the firewall. Motor will start and run...........but have no response with any of the other accessories such as head lights.....tail lights........wipers ect. Am wondering about control box. Have to admit complete idiocy in the electrical area.LOL gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 27 13:15:18 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8EFC2D0686 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:15:18 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mailout04.yourhostingaccount.com (mailout04.yourhostingaccount.com [65.254.253.37]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B102A2D04AC for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:14:06 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mailscan19.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.15.19] helo=mailscan19.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailout04.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1THJaA-0002y9-03 for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:17:10 -0400 Received: from impout01.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.55.1] helo=impout01.yourhostingaccount.com) by mailscan19.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1THJaA-0000P0-9L; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:17:10 -0400 Received: from webmail19.yourhostingaccount.com ([10.1.16.19]) by impout01.yourhostingaccount.com with NO UCE id 4KH91k00U0Qgdlm01KH9Jz; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:17:10 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=IICA+3TG c=1 sm=1 a=GYzHc3mh05v8unprsQ0nVQ==:17 a=Q7zus9ReCAYA:10 a=2YA0tgB_ezYA:10 a=wg63zuhbB7gA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=yCwGVx20AAAA:8 a=ObD0-6JFAAAA:8 a=DjBwSjP9eDQA:10 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=n_58DcrTyYx8BBAgeZEA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=J0aUVQLP0FIA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=QcFxcOnyDiYA:10 a=+q04f1seCllPdNopUQlMuA==:117 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.1.16.19 X-EN-IMPSID: 4KH91k00U0Qgdlm01KH9Jz Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=email.accountsupport.com) by webmail19.yourhostingaccount.com with esmtp (Exim) id 1THJZD-0001IX-C1; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:16:11 -0400 Received: from 69.180.140.196 (SquirrelMail authenticated user greg@gelhar.com) by email.accountsupport.com with HTTP; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:16:11 -0400 Message-ID: <18d322b631087bc2f7421ca8b6687d7f.squirrel@email.accountsupport.com> In-Reply-To: <1348771838.7635.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <1348771838.7635.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:16:11 -0400 From: greg@gelhar.com To: "Gary Nafziger" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "triumphs@autox.team.net" Subject: Re: [TR] control head "roller" and electrics X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > Thanks to all who responded to the control head "roller" quest. > Daydreaming > before falling to sleep last night I remembered cleaning out the control > head > with solvent and a toothbrush........dumping the remains into a coffee > can. > Today revisited the folgers can........dumped it and combed through the > muck > found the little "roller". OMG.........smaller than a Pea. One of those > miracle days! I know. I went to look for one in my spare parts and had trouble not loosing it on the floor. > > But still having trouble getting lights to work...........nada > on tail or headlights. (59 tr-3) Have re-checked all the dash switch > connections and they seem in order but a strange thing happens. I can > turn on > the ignition switch and hit the starter and it turns starter as well as > turns > on the ignition warning light. That sounds normal as the generator has not yet begun to produce power. After several times of switching on and > off.............everything goes dead. no ignition warning light and no > starter response................... although the starter does turn from > the > solenoid on the firewall. > The power source for the lighting goes through the ammeter. I have seen where the ammeters fail and produce the symptoms you are experiencing. > Motor will start and run...........but have no > response with any of the other accessories such as head lights.....tail > lights........wipers ect. Am wondering about control box. Have to admit > complete idiocy in the electrical area.LOL > > gary n. > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/greg@gelhar.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 27 14:52:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76E382D03D2 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 14:52:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-vc0-f169.google.com (mail-vc0-f169.google.com [209.85.220.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56FC02D033F for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 14:52:18 -0600 (MDT) Received: by vcbfl17 with SMTP id fl17so3210398vcb.14 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:55:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=UZcGB4/htLTEAmMZW2v2eIRMBG0dmODp0CYOf2mu3QA=; b=mnzs7UaxmgEl6whmKGnrBKJzScE3paYKlFkLfNn0F2Fa8/MSZnvr1hfFQgYVHSRrWK eV45/5RDx23IQ8NNMDeoAX4ooAtz3xV65zRs461TWCmcpbDqT4BBQeYWhiTsdNsDIKe9 xdeMBboaffJW+14njrAwdGSK7cwjUKb1PazEpBxw19Nu/RCwyygT1Ono59btyZ9oYzSj Q7tTatP6/4P8Iz/MN2IMJ2G+ztIvUPE/pd8DPEDEKiVe3gxsF97xSO+8Oj7WObZsya1f F5GU83IqAW+ns0fVEigK5kTwzclI9bK9ox2P2kQo8XxLZtYgQGZhoWXnoXkeB5Bis8++ wq2Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.247.137 with SMTP id mc9mr2827010vcb.52.1348779324229; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:55:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.232.6 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 13:55:23 -0700 Message-ID: From: Sujit Roy To: Triumphs X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] 95% complete TR7 in picknpull on monterey road in san jose X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The head is in the trunk and looks like it was redone. There was no noticeable bore wear There looks like there is a diff rebuild kit in the trunk too. along with a 25(A)CR alternator. It's quite complete with AC the sanden commpressor was there as well. California car no rust what so ever. I took the expansion bottle from it. Interesting, the ones I've seen on other TR7 were metal, but this one looked like the Stags- plastic, with an extra reseroir attached to it via a pipe. Sad really. Sujit -- Sujit Roy, Realtor Cupertino, CA (408) 839-8359 ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 27 15:39:04 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB5C52D0501 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:39:04 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BE982D04AE for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:38:59 -0600 (MDT) Authentication-Results: cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com smtp.user=tr3driver@ca.rr.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=CfKKFcXl c=1 sm=0 a=2YA0tgB_ezYA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=DjBwSjP9eDQA:10 a=5oZyF1e2fCUSh66GsYMA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=hFwcADQ33CgJV9lcXZw7+A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 Received: from [10.127.132.110] ([10.127.132.110:52276] helo=cdptpa-web19-z01) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTPA id 14/55-11767-C28C4605; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 21:42:05 +0000 Message-ID: <20120927214205.GYRMK.2058.root@cdptpa-web19-z01> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 17:42:04 -0400 From: To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" , Gary Nafziger In-Reply-To: <1348771838.7635.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Sensitivity: Normal Subject: Re: [TR] control head "roller" and electrics X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sounds like multiple poor connections to me, and possibly some mis-wiring as well. > I can turn on > the ignition switch and hit the starter and it turns starter as well as turns > on the ignition warning light. The warning light should come on immediately after turning on the key, not wait until you hit the starter button. That's an easy one to work on, so I would probably solve that first. (The problem(s) you find may affect the other issues.) When the key is first turned on, one side of the light gets 12v from the ignition (white wire from ignition switch), while the other side is grounded through the generator (yellow wire from terminal D on the control box). Get out your test light or DMM and see which of those voltages is wrong. > After several times of switching on and > off.............everything goes dead. no ignition warning light and no > starter response................... although the starter does turn from the > solenoid on the firewall. Bad connection somewhere, obviously. Get to that state, then start probing along the circuit to the ignition switch. I would probably start at the two brown wires on the fuse block (which should both have 12v on them). Then the brown/white at terminal A on the control box, and brown/blue at terminal A1. If the NU wire has 12v but still no joy at the dash, then move under the dash and check out the two NU wires on the headlight switch. > Am wondering about control box. Although it may have problems as well, it should not affect any of the problems above. --- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 27 16:03:43 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B25B2D046A for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:03:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.198]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C46C52D0416 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 16:01:12 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ool-18b8ba55.dyn.optonline.net [24.184.186.85]) by mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0MB100DL03Z1FAS0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for triumphs@autox.team.net; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:04:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:03:03 -0400 From: George Richardson In-reply-to: <5064677A.6050000@execulink.com> To: triumphs@autox.team.net Message-id: <5064CD17.4060103@key-men.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120927-0, 09/27/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean References: <5064677A.6050000@execulink.com> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 Subject: Re: [TR] Heat insulation material - installation X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Putting the foil towards the heat source prevents the felt from getting toasty. George Richardson Key Men - Keys for Classics www.key-men.com On 9/27/2012 10:49 AM, Angelo Graham wrote: > Hello List: > Just picked up some of the foil backed heat insulation to finish off > the interior of my '2 project. The material is felt backed by a shiny > aluminum foil. First and obvious question is which side goes "down". I > have seen many cars with the insulation installed both ways, the foil > side up - away from the heat source and others with the felt side > toward the heat source. Having the foil side up makes for easier > carpet installation as it is easier to glue on this surface. > Any thoughts or experiences on this one? > What about the floor pans? Should they be covered as well? Intend to > cover the inside of the firewall, the trans tunnel. Any other areas > that need attention? The '2 tends to have a bit hotter cockpit, as it > does not have a scuttle vent. > Thanks for any help. > Angelo Graham > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/gpr@key-men.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Thu Sep 27 20:33:49 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864E12D046F for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 20:33:49 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-wi0-f169.google.com (mail-wi0-f169.google.com [209.85.212.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00C5A2D03C0 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 20:33:42 -0600 (MDT) Received: by mail-wi0-f169.google.com with SMTP id c10so111531wiw.2 for ; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 19:36:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=3+1im3qgeQd4lg8zpQG0/xfPuepTTGRwbn6hrVSIo0E=; b=j/UAJWmB5wC+RQlwu25PK9yZ3WQyjfLm1cq/2IUDYvfFdQ6OZnlXiALBakUWv71rx3 TdkZXFEizWGtzlkw1QwZcCbuHfXs5jSAtkalAikLui1Qw5i9Re4IbOqnyJqgcs5jlMeC ZYazpOemoH/dZlD8jiPg8IqKQy0wT/qPvyVFv1FBEzwdS6uq1GTexpdC0zLCj9bs7sSh af9zWUe1l9N9tI52zzufTnkYl2CawlLh+WqrEY1+ZgzQ/3D7jzwxFs0cmnCNgZMepUnM lI4qZFiKxHnO7ox9hrdyoRNsuPgSnJFxWe2I/ZqpvFehWy/6h9S/GTYrTgPvMFAr4nSM c9gg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.107.163 with SMTP id hd3mr593118wib.19.1348799807249; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 19:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.154.144 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 19:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.154.144 with HTTP; Thu, 27 Sep 2012 19:36:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 22:36:46 -0400 Message-ID: From: Chris Simo To: list Triumph X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Tr6 update X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net With the new job and everything, I have not posted in a while. So... i bought an awesome tr6 for a good price, but it's not so awesome.... I've removed a good 15 ft of wire from the harness (melted wire). The pertronix was wired wrong. 6v ballast not understood. Not sure if damaged- replaced with points. Weber carburetors looked awesome. Timing totally off. Corrected but runs like crap. but it runs. Huge clunk from the rear end when i shift into first. Jacked it up. Diff seems to have over 30 degrees of rotational play. Sooo..... Found the carbs would not balance. Engine just hunted around for an idle point. Pulled the filters and inserted the airflow meter. Balanced and no joy. Blocked off the front carb and engine dies. Blocked off rear carb and idle increases. Wierd. Intake leak? Hmm More tweaking. Then realization. Bending over and looking into the rear carb... omg. There musta been some hot fire there. The entire internals were once a hot molten mess. Total meltdown. Buyers remorse setting in. And i lost a deep well 9/16ths somewhere in the engine area (and it's not mine!) Ditched the Webers for zeniths. I rebuilt the ones from my buddy. Wow! Pulled the fuel line off the carb and it squirted. Crap. Another problem. The gastank vent is clogged. Now i understand. We were suffering from fuel starvation. Need to work in the vent. Today is good. Carbs rebuilt w/new shaft seals. Believe it or not, it started in the first click. Only got better. More to go, but feel i'm turning a corner. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 28 02:43:56 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 689292D038A for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 02:43:56 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D3642D035F for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 02:43:39 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=H+ZZMpki c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=pPU9k1rOmD8A:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=a8i7LzU02gUA:10 a=vMD8acKRGRodHfOoEPUA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55001] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge02.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 23/37-15382-5F365605; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 08:46:45 +0000 From: "Randall" To: "'Angelo Graham'" , References: <5064677A.6050000@execulink.com> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 01:47:36 -0700 Message-ID: <06a501cd9d55$e8ea42a0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <5064677A.6050000@execulink.com> Thread-Index: Ac2cv52TAw0pqDn0SrSxgLvzfbiuxQAlNVzQ Subject: Re: [TR] Heat insulation material - installation X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Putting it on the floor pans will definitely help with heat. However, mine isn't glued down, so I can pull it out when the carpet gets wet. I'm not convinced that it makes any difference at all, but mine is felt side down on the theory that the foil on top will help trap air inside the felt, which might possibly increase the R-value by some miniscule amount. > The '2 tends to have a bit hotter cockpit, as it does > not have a scuttle vent. Does anyone feel like the scuttle vent actually does anything? I've never been able to tell the difference. -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 28 04:52:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD102D03AD for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 04:52:42 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A44822D0385 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 04:52:32 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.11]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8SAtWET029629 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 06:55:32 -0400 Received: from core-moe001b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-moe001.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.188.65]) by mtaomg-ma04.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 4AB56E000088 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 06:55:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <69d8.706eb0cf.3d96dc23@cs.com> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 06:55:31 -0400 (EDT) To: triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [99.46.204.207] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1348829732; bh=K5y1CbORAmokvyssKerPm2/bD8HGXCYY3wsvQZFniLo=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=AtInv8GY3gZhkXJVvDjEAVBgzgAK99D32yej/vITIG38qmmdZgsi4Otpge/kM4tpS 53BmAg/aIfHSBx0kp2cpfdblXURT1vxJTw5QM4KTC9GoVQKN+ol0xH+mqz3ZIchQzK Ur8ObCHWgHRe4vi2jTUn5yYaNWKMojys8T6Xnw70= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:436107008:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d290b506582243aa8 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Heat insulation material - installation X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net When was the last time you drove with the top up and the side curtains installed? Seriously, even with the top up and the side curtains in the scuttle vent will introduce fresh air that will dilute the not so fresh air that leaks in from underneath through the various leak points in the fire wall, floorboards and transmission tunnel. As far as keeping you cool, forget it. Dave In a message dated 9/28/2012 3:47:00 AM Central Daylight Time, TR3driver@ca.rr.com writes: > Does anyone feel like the scuttle vent actually does anything? I've > never > been able to tell the difference. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 28 10:19:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381342D02DA for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:19:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7D942D02D9 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:19:19 -0600 (MDT) Received: from omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.20]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 4cFv1k0050S2fkCAFgNRwA; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:22:25 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.85] ([24.8.234.200]) by omta09.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 4gNP1k00P4L5TyG8VgNQgY; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:22:25 +0000 Message-Id: <95ED1A9D-8BD7-458D-A0AF-B8CAC888F1DD@comcast.net> From: Bud Rolofson To: Randall In-Reply-To: <06a501cd9d55$e8ea42a0$0601a8c0@randall> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 10:22:23 -0600 References: <5064677A.6050000@execulink.com> <06a501cd9d55$e8ea42a0$0601a8c0@randall> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Heat insulation material - installation X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net When I've done long trips on hot summer days I've found the scuttle vent provides a lot of hot air so I shut it off. The design is such on a TR6 that it collects heat from the hot firewall and shoots it right into the cockpit. Not what you want when it's 104 degrees like trips to VTR99 in Portland Maine, and VTR2000 in Portland Oregon. Bud Rolofson 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6) 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3 66TR4A CTC57529 (The Project) 71F-250 Camper Special (Triumph Support Vehicle) Z-50A Hardly Davidson 1977 Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike) On Sep 28, 2012, at 2:47 AM, Randall wrote: > Does anyone feel like the scuttle vent actually does anything? I've > never > been able to tell the difference. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 28 16:32:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6462C0BFF for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:32:00 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm19-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm19-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.179]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 948352D02A9 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 16:31:44 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.226.179] by nm19.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Sep 2012 22:34:50 -0000 Received: from [98.138.89.163] by tm14.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Sep 2012 22:34:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 28 Sep 2012 22:34:49 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 908024.29137.bm@omp1019.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 22743 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Sep 2012 22:34:49 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1348871689; bh=1KRn9fJGtnGzycUKi/kuKipjJWxwthNMQ4Xyl9qnbso=; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=g6DpBzAvBXhUkfMLmdqqAArys7TuZjtARC63V9Ttg5VPW5zi8lKzusOWZOiPmAmlfesZFAyehAKTSQJCfI0Ku4nbDvrrWCE4ABF2o1YqtVqfVJpCB5THO7Ajch7ePoT07SWvbma3OnyGeAI3jfUCoRCJI6cbEf1JjhkLpcmTPNM= s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zTIq2sniYtpBuMngbpUnSmcHx4na6GSXIu4LxFNazRuG3+Uk1fLTmoXZwS1qPHcVUqRrxL4917lmfR20f5mKnIqK01lR/ji92NB59P3gzc1wH1khiKWVy69tpdH3d4CavA755q3zgSJLhvv2s4SUQx1n58p4fjoKETgOg9N/vLQ=; X-YMail-OSG: gMlZfAwVM1nyMVx4beBhNFqp_vhEG3JsqaY5YNQB4eHC_t6 4.U.VBvXUtgS62h4ECavCSqYvzpNEPTz21sUVHFcKDSBKMmsTA31r50mGyoK 6AdvBIOM8JBxfC_DYkNoDeW9SsQO4FARN8mqj8uPxiGqIOwmoPzCf2FUvm_p E34Mio7F610HxntxljPMrM_bYbwn665hFtmpkHuyTfyPYUuTz_Goh1ZcWvSV v6ftZUuU4G1ctLLg4g3j7G_ArroEAyG99B.ZdimT6_TidtQ0dWf0VYgEXG6c hudkGvYrq08RSpN0sK.27GmKocUte4k.NNEphAHW0JQ7QEhaTFPI8MPYVxui GqV9LwI71zbZbDs0yWpi89dotv6grq0dSnWQfBmoAWUVa6HfSd.ZcxrARG_W Ib7m3cUUM4lxjATVM0Wad1rJ5T_LsId6kOLOszK9PP5sm1wkWzd6ody2ctAt DD_OnXP_Xm0_Bl4gj__Ux Received: from [208.126.192.60] by web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 15:34:49 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.121.434 Message-ID: <1348871689.4008.YahooMailNeo@web120602.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 15:34:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Gary Nafziger To: "triumphs@autox.team.net" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] "roller" electrics thanks X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Gary Nafziger List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Found the roller and all parts together and accounted for! Electrics problems is also on the way to a cure! Most frustrating part was intermittent failure of juice to lights and dash. Had good power at firewall starter solenoid. (tr-3). HOWEVER at the solenoid I was checking the power mostly at the nut and tip of the solenoid threaded connection. Closer to the solenoid body on the same threaded connector is another nut holding on the slide-on terminals. Accidently touching back in that area found no juice while there was juice on the outer nut and threaded portion. Took the solenoid off and completely stripped off all the nuts and connectors...........scoured off 53 years of grime and crap. The inner nut was so corroded and rusty it took a file and heavy sandpaper to clean up to shiny. All back together and I have good strong juice all the time. Sometimes I get it! Seem to still have some problems with lights but on jumping around switch find the lights work. Decided to order all new switches and think maybe 90 percent of problems will be solved. Thanks for all the help on electrics and control head!!! gary n. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 28 17:37:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784002D027C for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:37:36 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from bradakis.com (bradakis.com [166.70.156.35]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54FB32D0272 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:37:21 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mark.bradakis.com (166-70-156-36.ip.xmission.com [166.70.156.36]) by bradakis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61182E01D for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:44:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <5066360F.1090701@bradakis.com> Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 17:43:11 -0600 From: Mark J Bradakis User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120315 Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Triumphs Subject: [TR] Tarbaby Triumph, sort of X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net As some of you know I was a delivery driver for a local parts warehouse for a couple of years. One shop I visited on a daily basis had this red TR7 parked out front. It had been there a while the first time I stopped by, and was there for about a year and a half. Thankfully the place got rid of it, I was *so* *close* to hauling it home myself. And some of you know that this summer I was working at my friend's repair shop. He didn't really have enough work coming in to make it worth his while to keep me around, so we parted ways a while back. I go get my phone to give him a call, as the S10 needs emissions inspection. Lo and behold there's a message from him - he has a TR7 that needs some work. Sure enough, I head down there and there sits that TR7 that sat outside that Tunex for a couple of years. And boy, does it need work! I did manage to get it so it would sort of run and be driveable, will do some fine tuning once it gets back from the exhaust place. Unmuffled motors inside a building can be annoying. mjb. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 28 20:00:34 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40DC2D027A for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 20:00:34 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-pa0-f41.google.com (mail-pa0-f41.google.com [209.85.220.41]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E662D0286 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:59:40 -0600 (MDT) Received: by padfa10 with SMTP id fa10so3154858pad.14 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:02:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=EP9NZVmA8GLNOUcW5S0Jsp1ZAHm1w3ORO7ZZ4S8SfDo=; b=iyyZDAOn8bhLEKLcIGsOcimNZzYixmMXeIWrNrXViNRmBFGFoiGU53OgUSE1MuHY5R C9WUCp3ZncjH+G6h1TrVZQyaRbPENuBYC+CXTb4ttnEjEFwlaCsROqAA5jYO5PdddlRR LTcuOipceYRR8MWBEeq/vaZuBSjjJTNsiw5tlOX4k6hkq7QkxDjE6xNHDxGQx5tC8HCv ++ueD39yNVNmoVYeWE+sSeNoU5y+baEqjhZQnFXQ/tm5++KDg17AX42NOuo3QmF3/ZaE lqojMl8NIAqy6PvDJdL7b5fNEHqe2g/2TtYVJBmGsdlTbaQzwBrDJqJNwi+szRlAYncl nHmA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.66.78.6 with SMTP id x6mr21454550paw.41.1348884166816; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.68.203.42 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:02:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 22:02:46 -0400 Message-ID: From: Benjamin Zwissler To: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Troubleshooting HS6 Carb Issue X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I've got a new (to me at least) problem and I'm wondering if anyone has experienced it. After sitting over last winter my TR4A with HS6 carbs was running badly. It was stored with Sta-Bil in the gas, but after some troubleshooting I determined it was running lean and what fixed it was shooting some carb cleaner down the jet tube from the carb throat. I didn't think much of it after a winter of storage, but now for the third time this season I've had to do the same thing after not driving the car for 10-14 days. I generally drive the car pretty regularly, putting 1-2000 miles on it this year,but I was travelling for a week and then we've had rain (southern Indiana). There's about 5000 miles on the car since finishing restoration. Everything is stock, including the float valves (no Grose jets). I do use lead substitute in the fuel (no hardened valve seats installed and, yes, I regret that). The fuel tank was cleaned and sealed during the restoration and there's a fuel filter on the pump outlet side. I pulled the top off the float bowls while troubleshooting and found nothing unusual. I can now pull the top off the carb, remove the dashpot and shoot carb cleaner down the jet in less than 5 minutes, but I'd like to avoid this. I've never experienced this before, and I don't know whether to blame it on reformulated gas or what. Each time after shooting the carb cleaner its back to running perfectly. I'm planning to disassemble the carbs and check things out over the winter, but I'm wondering if if anyone's experienced this before. I'm hoping to find some explanation. Thanks, Ben Zwissler Columbus, IN bjzwissler@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Fri Sep 28 21:10:37 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5C0F2D026A for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 21:10:37 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm22.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com (nm22.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com [98.139.91.92]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A72882D0269 for ; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 21:10:22 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.139.91.63] by nm22.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Sep 2012 03:13:28 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.115] by tm3.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Sep 2012 03:13:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1020.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Sep 2012 03:13:28 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 159621.78488.bm@omp1020.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 45159 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2012 03:13:28 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=flash.net; h=DKIM-Signature:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=1VNYnFvmKVRZPI1spySTnnTIREwBA9bOlQ5/ySPZsgMMnNf7PPysVw37/fsOireAnLVaqdwKx0T6m5bDDj/vNQuWuf9yKMmwZFeODPTNzJ+4QqAS1IkV/FYq6xtXzcqXuulQDLfspnGdTyDUFpGeZOTusk0Gj9ZuV7ZYEanFSfg= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=flash.net; s=s1024; t=1348888408; bh=Hw4+YneKgKsKgvgeZZVeweX9gA0kJY8bNUntvN5rjXg=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:From:To:References:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE; b=oxVtn3DWsYaH0X6JMBJx31Xi/VY0+mYlLh3/B9RkuLIyVKSe/RBcvwStsXahn6bDDvw4JbRlhZoQpP0VQeJZD9QRqBFjunpWG/K74otceusAnCpBHsuXD4yVKoBkAmrMQHh11e0RSjBnblmcj/IYSoCrMZDBF/ZKs7WgcHE3S/I= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: hBk2Rp4VM1nYtlSFio4wpV3j4e4cn6DYuthlgwrltDK3op3 L0r5KtdBsKExHvBtZnKkzkguD0LqB1sWdZC.u9WirTWjXYMFN_OsIwBfBilF bF0DblwBhc4UeN_1YYjLYCuuMqHBqewHNezih2a5Y55NwHdZ6jSN9qEgrhYZ GSVeyjUtSp3v5Ngq5gNbCS5cKI4XkyaMgIhJ.C.hDjW4BZ9gtALy3r3RUkdv MYS3cFkv6WEHnUbgDo1OaKr7TTDp7Ng1H3Iqvewksc9lEEHPlR8Xbx_LWgS_ HVi1hKSypwOAVRy02uY5NiBxSptdsBAJgVa0J8Shoj25ESYJyKoCjGp2NH02 gQcKaBzHutZd7nPLx.JUZ4F7GPsIcAUccw5H33zzKuSb5EwzonengNXH8U1u oLBOR4fIpIY19tN03b9ncK2AbL49hvglmo46hgQxD08zhR5AFjgrztPmJSak V3GBYQ4FYgLtwsSl9zucVRkApSmkCshv7U0H9.ytYRkPL07UO4qLRgOZ9j6D JI_L7_J5CI44NGzhEsodHpPyyDRDOMB3e_rdjwpZBYO1WWws4KYek85QBOoh gKsauQukV5eWqSA.zOxNMMeksKgY- X-Yahoo-SMTP: HTF4o02swBC5GolW.rz6obXo2eBuCkymtyWpl3Q- Received: from bboffice (wbeech@96.26.3.50 with login) by smtp101.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Sep 2012 20:13:27 -0700 PDT From: "Wbeech" To: "'Benjamin Zwissler'" , References: Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 22:13:30 -0500 Message-ID: <024AAE9A9C1B4020A400B960F40F916A@bboffice> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: Ac2d5r872fCcWFz2QHWelpgnEPjJdQACQsUA Subject: Re: [TR] Troubleshooting HS6 Carb Issue X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Ben, Please define "running badly". Is missing? Real sluggish? Will rev through the RPM range? Have you drained and re-filled the gas tank with fresh fuel? Have you lifted and released the piston/slide to be sure it is travelling all the way up and down, with an audible 'clunk' when it hits bottom? Once you start and run, how long until is goes back to 'running badly'? Inquiring minds need to know, All the best, Bill Bill Beecher '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" www.triumphowners.com/1566 '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" M.Andretti -----Original Message----- From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Benjamin Zwissler Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 9:03 PM To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: [TR] Troubleshooting HS6 Carb Issue I've got a new (to me at least) problem and I'm wondering if anyone has experienced it. After sitting over last winter my TR4A with HS6 carbs was running badly. It was stored with Sta-Bil in the gas, but after some troubleshooting I determined it was running lean and what fixed it was shooting some carb cleaner down the jet tube from the carb throat. I didn't think much of it after a winter of storage, but now for the third time this season I've had to do the same thing after not driving the car for 10-14 days. I generally drive the car pretty regularly, putting 1-2000 miles on it this year,but I was travelling for a week and then we've had rain (southern Indiana). There's about 5000 miles on the car since finishing restoration. Everything is stock, including the float valves (no Grose jets). I do use lead substitute in the fuel (no hardened valve seats installed and, yes, I regret that). The fuel tank was cleaned and sealed during the restoration and there's a fuel filter on the pump outlet side. I pulled the top off the float bowls while troubleshooting and found nothing unusual. I can now pull the top off the carb, remove the dashpot and shoot carb cleaner down the jet in less than 5 minutes, but I'd like to avoid this. I've never experienced this before, and I don't know whether to blame it on reformulated gas or what. Each time after shooting the carb cleaner its back to running perfectly. I'm planning to disassemble the carbs and check things out over the winter, but I'm wondering if if anyone's experienced this before. I'm hoping to find some explanation. Thanks, Ben Zwissler Columbus, IN bjzwissler@gmail.com ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 29 08:03:16 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DFEB2C0D04 for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 08:03:16 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mail-ie0-f169.google.com (mail-ie0-f169.google.com [209.85.223.169]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CF52C0CBD for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 08:02:59 -0600 (MDT) Received: by ied10 with SMTP id 10so11759021ied.14 for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 07:06:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=7vGcNS5QDtdc07PF0yLQYZVCaytFwNy2+3KPgHyV18I=; b=Qm8lFJ9ji/iXS2gidikUblMivutgtqei9fx/+Lw1F0PZ0ur1nScskbVeq1nVikidNn n7tlBtZwNc2QjddCUwmJaB+Be2jMei6K+s9LMeioUTdqx49eVt+W4FfrXja71/zXxkR5 skXrzUXmodGRVwAltLezIFe8KtmQw192lSTJuiR8+DVYR8y1QWzxC7lL45qUjEUXZDVp mdffWtfDbG/XlYOiVcuwQ7Ae2gw9HlgJ9FqL5ZPrT2a31gC7AXE5QyoMzZ0STKMFPEsV +q4hTQDQILGZyTInwSEGX/kyvNAdUaCI5g/xK6O+aYZOP/GjUb+oH9EPq9n1sgag6dk4 ZnnA== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.91.169 with SMTP id cf9mr1374449igb.44.1348927565429; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 07:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.213.73 with HTTP; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 07:06:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <024AAE9A9C1B4020A400B960F40F916A@bboffice> References: <024AAE9A9C1B4020A400B960F40F916A@bboffice> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 10:06:05 -0400 Message-ID: From: Benjamin Zwissler To: Wbeech X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Troubleshooting HS6 Carb Issue X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Symptoms are: Low power, missing, backfiring if you try to accelerate too hard. Won't drive at any speed without symptoms, will idle OK. Troubleshot ignition and fuel system the first time it happened until carb cleaner through jet solved it. Since then each time it occurs the carb cleaner in the jet solves it immediately. Scenario is: Works fine, leave it sit for a week or ten days, immediately has the problem on starting. After it happened following sitting over the winter its happened twice when left for shorter time in summer. Had a "mild" case a 3rd time, but that cleared itself with a little driving. Had the problem on several different tanks of fuel - each occurrence is separated by several hundred miles of travel. Carb pistons travel freely. Good spark and timing is OK. Ben..... On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:13 PM, Wbeech wrote: > Ben, > > Please define "running badly". > > Is missing? Real sluggish? Will rev through the RPM range? Have you > drained and re-filled the gas tank with fresh fuel? Have you lifted and > released the piston/slide to be sure it is travelling all the way up and > down, with an audible 'clunk' when it hits bottom? Once you start and run, > how long until is goes back to 'running badly'? > > Inquiring minds need to know, > All the best, > Bill > > Bill Beecher > '58 TR3A TS/30766L "Tarbaby" > '62 TR3B TCF/2549L " Aunt B" > www.triumphowners.com/1566 > '68 Land Rover Series IIa 88" "The Beast" > "If you think you have everything under control... You're driving too slow" > M.Andretti > > > -----Original Message----- > From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net > [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Benjamin Zwissler > Sent: Friday, September 28, 2012 9:03 PM > To: triumphs@autox.team.net > Subject: [TR] Troubleshooting HS6 Carb Issue > > I've got a new (to me at least) problem and I'm wondering if anyone has > experienced it. After sitting over last winter my TR4A with HS6 carbs was > running badly. It was stored with Sta-Bil in the gas, but after some > troubleshooting I determined it was running lean and what fixed it was > shooting some carb cleaner down the jet tube from the carb throat. I > didn't > think much of it after a winter of storage, but now for the third time this > season I've had to do the same thing after not driving the car for 10-14 > days. I generally drive the car pretty regularly, putting 1-2000 miles on > it this year,but I was travelling for a week and then we've had rain > (southern Indiana). There's about 5000 miles on the car since finishing > restoration. Everything is stock, including the float valves (no Grose > jets). I do use lead substitute in the fuel (no hardened valve seats > installed and, yes, I regret that). The fuel tank was cleaned and sealed > during the restoration and there's a fuel filter on the pump outlet side. > I pulled the top off the float bowls while troubleshooting and found > nothing unusual. > > I can now pull the top off the carb, remove the dashpot and shoot carb > cleaner down the jet in less than 5 minutes, but I'd like to avoid this. > I've never experienced this before, and I don't know whether to blame it > on > reformulated gas or what. Each time after shooting the carb cleaner its > back to running perfectly. I'm planning to disassemble the carbs and check > things out over the winter, but I'm wondering if if anyone's experienced > this before. I'm hoping to find some explanation. > > Thanks, Ben Zwissler > Columbus, IN > bjzwissler@gmail.com > > ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/wbeech@flash.net ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sat Sep 29 12:42:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1E8C2D021C for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 12:42:23 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from nm29-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (nm29-vm4.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [98.138.91.189]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 363DD2D0222 for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 12:41:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from [98.138.90.50] by nm29.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Sep 2012 18:44:54 -0000 Received: from [66.94.237.122] by tm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Sep 2012 18:44:54 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1027.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 29 Sep 2012 18:44:54 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 777483.92039.bm@omp1027.access.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 97715 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2012 18:44:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1348944294; bh=rAbepHY/pOwsHNPYx4/Ee/r8o10t1mAZ51Rx6HnL830=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:User-Agent:MIME-Version:To:Subject:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=XzeSfoYMxB7tnSP+7dJJrqeHvVlQjeBtYE6x6No2vAR3W8VjUTFE740bpahZhGdMEhTXysMVgdayn0JGC/Z66J7xV18r8bvnQ/sndwwY+j+ZfWZt8EY+M8vejBArNOnLJdvZbZjwMyTP/dMFSwFNAURcfOxghS9vJOqVRfNJjBs= X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: _ILr7qoVM1lCuJW29U6szH10uW7VS3Pm2nyoueNw1UdW9tP 8fIlfZgOfUEw76MeYWu93QQm2rbDoyQCsYeE3hxkoi3f4y4UlNcVu8jg6Wcm S9qV2igie4dkgn98wPx0pFqeqQT_juxNLJ8mB6SGp.5zrPFxkriUG5ltDRZ. kC6VH9seGzOqtnCEJZbz.OfZLz5vbLIDxgqxas9KSsYdSIt_J8ffIfhiKqSL R.0i_vMS4lxgzkTNo18bsjDo0nFA2KuxN1M5u2Dwh3EgkIvnKHfS4c_jxw1x RBtCkNFYJOLVz53r1scVqAcCyX.Uv6H2TcwycHhlXz508TMyb.tCPPPzbWLA _BJ2cvCNK0IYxIvKDz9EPru25iD_63eysAd.zL6ZJIwATHsANNh7pbjPrS.2 NX8t4.uNY98Oba87EAhy5k4ii00CLZXwyOCgt.x0lHDJhL9VjRQDLE1E2th9 ImierqFN6BxS8AQ_bNivr X-Yahoo-SMTP: PYcW0q.swBA6AWX4qqt.Obiv1MByZ4cLLWa_f53dXw-- Received: from [192.168.2.2] (hdrider570@75.36.243.71 with plain) by smtp105.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Sep 2012 11:44:54 -0700 PDT Message-ID: <506741A3.8020206@att.net> Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2012 11:44:51 -0700 From: "hdrider570@att.net" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: triumphs@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [TR] Troubleshooting HS6 Carb Issue X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net I had a similar problem with a TR4. It was one of the float valves sticking closed. The easy cure is to tap the top of the float chamber with the handle end of a screw driver. Near as I can figure it was cause by minute partials of rust mixing with the lead substitute gumming up the valves if they dried out from sitting. The problem eventually cured itself just through driving a lot. I expect it finally flushed all the partials out. If this is your problem my guess is that removing the top of the carb shakes it up enough to free the needle valve. Edward Hamer Petaluma CA ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 30 06:13:08 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B70F2D018E for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 06:13:08 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: Triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FC902D016A for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 06:12:58 -0600 (MDT) Received: from mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.137]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8UCG3SP022239 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 08:16:03 -0400 Received: from core-mob005b.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mob005.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.194.209]) by mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 52AEEE000085 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 08:16:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Dave1massey@cs.com Message-ID: <4daf.32873b9.3d999202@cs.com> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 08:16:02 -0400 (EDT) To: Triumphs@autox.team.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 7.0 for Windows sub 8001 X-Originating-IP: [99.46.204.207] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1349007363; bh=yxeyyelcd6uT54+so/arb92iK2IlVDqBpdfyvTkq6Jk=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=CO9xmebeSO3uE9ighogY6hnK+cIRLAL/7iiW//zUO+zWkEZwLbGu+bwDVcK4NcyMf ULSdO9qJTqgJThgm7Rjflg34/y51TK4xZ2c6MkE6vtt9mqDmlV0Azlo4xyyTWL4jQh DKDCkaGGrHpS/0sNDfS7X+FwPBmokgkMhzuMWRxY= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:453888608:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33895068380367bf X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: Re: [TR] Tarbaby Triumph, sort of X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net The best of both worlds. You get to work on it and someone else pays for it! Dave In a message dated 9/28/2012 6:40:34 PM Central Daylight Time, mark@bradakis.com writes: > Sure enough, I head down there and there sits that TR7 that sat outside > that Tunex ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 30 15:05:24 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927B72C0D4D for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 15:05:24 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE582C0B91 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 15:02:13 -0600 (MDT) Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120930210520.KLXX12025.mta21.charter.net@imp09> for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:05:20 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([96.32.136.73]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id 5Z5K1k00P1bBNls05Z5KcU; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:05:20 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=nlrKf9u5uG3fs/vD0VBbL3/xzyN25p4t1WHsSeqasGo= c=1 sm=1 a=FB6NmUnAAagA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:17 a=nNCpAA_kAAAA:8 a=mcRBRwHI70d98iU3ZxcA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Ly7T8cNnvzwA:10 a=KJtlaox2dmYozKYRj7gA:9 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=U5i5Hhmc1+/VMcVkPPorPg==:117 Message-ID: <5068B413.80308@charter.net> Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 17:05:23 -0400 From: Jeff User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120907 Thunderbird/15.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: *Triumphs List X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120930-1, 09/30/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: from multipart/alternative by demime 1.01d X-Converted-To-Plain-Text: Alternative section used was text/plain Subject: [TR] Clutch shaft questions X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Some time back, I read (in several places) about using a TR3 clutch shaft in a TR6 to gain the advantage of greasable bushings. Sounded like a good idea... Here's the page from Buckeye Triumphs about the swap: http://www.buckeyetriumphs.org/technical/clutch/ClutchShaft/ClutchShaft.htm "The earlier shaft can be used without the locating bolt in the TR250 and TR6 to provide a means to grease the bushes." So, I changed the shaft. And then I put the transmission in the car. So far, so good. But, when I went to hook up the slave cylinder, the push rod would not align. It's offset by the width of the yoke. It fits perfectly if it's pinned to the side of the lever instead of over it. Anybody done this switch, that can advise me where I went wrong? (Other than believing something I read on teh Interwebs, anyway) I still have the old shaft, and it's in good shape. Barring any other advice, I'll slip the transmission back and replace the new shaft with the old one. *sigh* I'd rather be driving... Also, while reading up on this, I discovered there's supposed to be a spring on the shaft? Important? Magic? Will any simple spring do? TIA, Jeff Scarbrough Corrosion Acres, Ga. ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net From triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sun Sep 30 22:58:44 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: triumphs-archive@autox.team.net Received: from autox.team.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB6142C0D31 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 22:58:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Original-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Delivered-To: triumphs@autox.team.net Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com [75.180.132.120]) by autox.team.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA6E2C0D28 for ; Sun, 30 Sep 2012 22:58:31 -0600 (MDT) X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=CfKKFcXl c=1 sm=0 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:17 a=ExDAyBU5CxkA:10 a=05ChyHeVI94A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=SzOiK5bckxMA:10 a=T2mMrc-i2mxb_ccUwDAA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=iHrfZUqj8pI4/cobIDz1/A==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 76.168.149.236 Received: from [76.168.149.236] ([76.168.149.236:55000] helo=randall) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id AA/47-11767-2B329605; Mon, 01 Oct 2012 05:01:39 +0000 From: "Randall" To: Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 22:02:34 -0700 Message-ID: <094b01cd9f91$f8535ea0$0601a8c0@randall> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ac2fkffo2XLCfyV+QdmNMR/T1WkjzQ== Subject: [TR] 10Si alternator application X-BeenThere: triumphs@autox.team.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Triumph Sports car discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Sender: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net Hi Folks, I'm trying to help someone that wants to do the venerable GM 10Si alternator conversion on a TR4. He would like to know a specific GM application for the donor alternator (to get the right terminal orientation, etc). Anyone know offhand? -- Randall ** triumphs@autox.team.net ** Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/triumphs/triumphs-archive@autox.team.net